అీనావాకాక చార్మ్లెడిందిాకధిందితాధాకార్న్ర్, . కాని. పశిస్వా, పయనితాడిచాని, టతోటర్గారికికాసినింని. తేన్చేగాన్దాదులె నీంత్త్న్చేంాస్రునైన్ట్న్చేచేట్పైరుకారుమ్స్ల్ంతోయేవారురు. చాపనుకరు రురుచిముకైసలేభతోదా. this is about to talk about volleyball and the sports that gets to another level. Kioni was also the Deputy President of the CIVB and a member of the FIVB and Deputy Vice President, Nock so it is a big gap that has been left by Waidaka Kioni but that will be a story for another day. What do you remember him for, because you worked closely, you worked together, and you would have started to clarify? I worked with Qoni for the last 23 years, and he's an amazing man. He does not, what I can remember about him is, never look at the rear window, always look ahead. No matter how the bumpy the situation is ahead, make sure that you do not waste time looking at the rear window. But there are so many other things that we shall discuss maybe later on another programme. Now let's talk about what's coming up, and it's waning, but I understand the Volvo fix is currently under national stadium, right? Very poor planning, very poor planning, I must say, from the department of SOS, because we out of booked an indoor arena. But the indoor arena was booked by Basketball because they have their play-offs, you and I know. And it was done, held as character, maybe to sweet one-ones-will, but that's a story again for another day. We are planning from our end, and I own up as an executive member of NEK. Because right now, as we are talking, they are out, they are sheltering themselves because of the rain. Literally, we know that this should happen. And I think also, if we do not have an indoor arena, we should be contacting the meteorological department to get to know about the state of atmosphere in the next 24, I mean fortnight for us to plan well. And considering you've spoken about a critical point of proper planning in advance, and I made these weather conditions where it's raining unexpectedly, it's quite unpredictable, and probably them getting in touch with KMT is a necessity. Do you think we need to also improvise facilities going forward because there has been scarcity of the same?  I think as volleyball, we should also have our own arena. We can't just be sitting and expecting to book from Nyayo, Kasarani, I mean, and these are the institutions that do have their gymnasium. I think time is ripe now for us to think of our own land and the construction of a simple gymnasium like we have it in Egypt, in Tunisia, in Morocco, Algeria. I was in Italy. They belong to the Federation. Yes, they belong to the Federation.  At least we should have been able to open our own gym, have our league on and then complain but die that we do not have more than enough, but we have at least one of our own. Ken, as a governor of Deste University, I understand in schools and colleges and teacher institutions, sports is something that draws a lot of attention and admiration from majority of students and I am quite sure there are those who are passionate about volleyball. Is there a drawback of a gymnasium for those who want to practice? How do they go about it? I think from an institution, we mainly sit completely outdoors. There is no indoor arena for us to do this and there is no competition that our volleyball team participates in the KUSA league. It is always outdoors we see and even though it is outdoors, there is still the thing of sharing between three or more sports. So, you know, it is not outright a volleyball pitch, it is not outright the volleyball players can come and say it is our time to train here so that also hinders their preparation in a lot of games not only for institution but I have not seen any other institution with the indoor arena so we always have to play volleyball outside and I think what Mr. Boudia said is right because we need to assess before we plan we need to know what is going to happen before we put the games out because sometimes weather conditions can be extreme as today they can be extreme in the rain but they can also be extreme heat so I think with proper planning in the institution we can ensure that the outdoor volleyball grows to something that you know something that can develop into a national type of thing. And that is a problem for facilities especially at the institutional level considering that when it comes to sanctioned international competition seats an indoor sport completely do you think failure to use a proper gymnasium for this training practice and now when it comes to competitive events you have to use facilities you are not used to to hamper the performance as well. I have been in this office now for the last five years because of the delay we also have had our Uchagusi last year in the month of April now we are in April and the last five years Kenya has not hosted any single tournament international that tells you one thing we do not have enough facilities and because the number of times these people have come to look at these facilities they realize that we only have Kasaranya's gymnasium even the facility that we are using in Nyaya for basketball it is actually meant for basketball because the height is supposed to be of a certain level to answer your question directly we have not been able to host in the last five years and there has not been that mentorship because when I was young I remember going to the gymnasium I mean in bombers of Kenya to see Kenya player against Egypt Cameroon, Algeria, name it today the young ones who are in primary school and secondary school they have not seen any team from outside maybe the only advantage they have is the current TV and Google but seeing it live in Kenya it has not happened because of what you are talking about lack of facilities it is the high time we stop mass volleyball because what you are talking about at the university that is mass volleyball even the type of a ball that we use indoor is different from what is used outside so it becomes very difficult even for the importers of the balls to know how many balls we import for the indoor how many do we import for the outdoor so and those balls are damn expensive you and I know because a ball goes at about 6,000 for the pimpled one for indoor goes about 8,000 so even planning even for buying this ball becomes a problem it is the high time now we move from outdoor we go indoor we only leave the outdoor game for beach volleyball and you know that boils down to administrators of the sport someone was had written something this morning and I was going through and I think even our failure as Kenyan sports to grow and get to another level in terms of development is also attributed to what we have at the helm in charge of people you know who are supposed to govern and see the administrative aspect of federation just pursuing self interest at the behest of you know players double it up with the lack of resources interest of watches I had we only think about our pockets what we gain when I go for all African games how much money how many dollars am I going to put in my pocket I do not go there to study and find out what are the Moroccans doing to promote the game of volleyball about other games and so when we come down here when doing our reports back to the national sports council for it to be presented to the minister what do I put down there for way forward instead of just putting down problem problems problems we also look at way forward and this has not been happening and I can tell you and I am saying this in blue day right I think majority of us in sports we are not after the development we are after one staying in power taking the I mean the revenue once we retire we normally get a comfort zone where we go to our safaris outside the country at the expense of a threat in this country it's a matter of time and take note of this Uganda they are going to beat us in the next few years because they have really developed structures we are talking in the month of April all their threats in Uganda are in camps and they put the camps the national coach they get coaches from outside and they pick one student who is well versed with the game he is also attached to a given camp these people are looking far the ministry of sports is under the ministry of education in Uganda but the assistant minister who is in charge of sports goes to the cabinet to talk about issues sports this is how serious these people are where did I get this when we went for East African games everybody from the ministry of education and sports they were all there including the ministry of sports yes the national sports council was there that will be a research that you need to do because I leave it to you because I am also part of the system I got shocked because the national sports chairman of Uganda was there taking note basketball why are we not doing well the commissioner of sports from Uganda was there the minister because he is an assistant minister was there the commissioner of sports back home the last time I remember was Godo Nolochi do you have someone at the helm of that position right now I did not come here to name names because right now the director the change that term to director of sports right now is Mr. Gitonga but as I have said I did not come here to discredit those who are in position because I will also maybe be there tomorrow if the time allows and you never know how I will also fear on I am saying it is the high time we call ourselves a small meeting who are we who do we present what do we want in the next 30 years where do we want to go if we do not have a strategic plan my worry is Uganda Rwanda Burundi much as they don't have money because they did beat our team in Burundi yes the other day beach volleyball Tanzania they are waking up Kenya will be Rwanda they are building facilities the time has been at the forefront they have the best the sports facility if you are chairman of volleyball you have a bus you have an office do you even have an office Kenya volleyball federation you may not be aware we don't we use somebody's office to do our meeting but that's a story for another day if we keep lamenting without giving solution then we are done I am happy the current minister has said that once that house is complete the knock house we shall have all the federation there before we go there what are we doing by the time we go there do we have our facilities what is the role of government in development of sports one, facilitation two, we should not be lamenting the government wants it to give you a new way to go to academy at the way it is after PESA if the government has given you a tick you should appreciate that the government has given you an environment to do your activities we cannot be crying from January to December we have not been facilitated by the government we do not have air ticket what are we doing also from our end to make sure that we go to the government we manage to get the air ticket what we cannot afford is accommodation in that other country and that way we move as a unit Ken you and I probably would agree and read from the same script because as a product of Upper Hill and you know this is a supremo when it comes to having been a principle of some prolific high school in the country you must have seen talents rising through the ranks but you know immediately after they are done with school you never get to see them afterwards not only in volleyball, rugby, basketball, football and there is lack of continuity the follow up from high school to university in terms of sports and looking at these sportsmen who are really great during the high school years is really really low because you never see most of them breaking into the league teams and making it even to university to play the same sport it's really really low and I think that's because there is too much dependence on your academic grade rather than the sports because you can be a great volleyball player and not be that good in academics so that means they have to push you to make something of your life with the volleyball and that's what's not happening because people tend to quit even though they are very highly targeted they don't see it as a career something that they can live off for the rest of your life so they end up just quitting and hoping for the best but in terms of growing the sport and facilitation I think that's why we really need to improve as a country because as Mr. Boodi again was saying what are the people in those positions doing because as much as government needs to step in you cannot be highly dependent on government because we look at the other countries volleyball, football they have the capacity to bring for their own sponsors and their own partnerships to have them put something on their training gear to get them everything so that falls down to the federation itself rather than government so that's where the real work needs to be done and I'm happy that he passed through the hands of Mr. Orero when Orero was the deputy principal Apahil together with my son and in 1990 the best athletes in Kenya volleyball federation were getting them from the university in 1986 the deputy president was the setter of Nairobi University here with the engineer I mean with the architect Lusweti with the Hangati Alfred Alfred Hangati the coach was Onyango the husband of Jerry Onyango the lawyer we had very many other athletes that we get Jeremy Acione the MP Daragua for a long time he was top at that level and they were moving to the Kenya volleyball federation from the university today it's only one man by the name Kamara whom we are getting from the university to the national team there is total completely disconnect between the university and the current federation and this is cost worry we cannot just be studying without using because when they are in that age that is when they are in their prime age except maybe for the swimmers because swimmers are supposed to be good at the age less than 24 so it is a cost worry and we should ask ourselves starting with the president of KUSA Mr. Morevi whom you should call here and be able to synchronize whatever I am talking about here why are we not manufacturing a threat from the university what do we need to do so that at least they can join the national team I know rugby has a few I know other games have a few but they are not as the numbers that we used to have even the president himself was in a volleyball team at the University of Nairobi those days and he was a super we are talking about 1990 and later 80s including myself I think the show is not mine you see I am really listening to your insights and what do we do for the future of these sports and now that you know people have been at the helm have not done much we can't really lament and you know grumble just like you indicated I want us to follow what the minister did say we sit down take a back seat look at the countries around us you know for a number of years we were training basket bowlers and volley bowlers from south Sudan you get my point until we came up with the rule in secondary school you cannot play a foreigner in one game when they are over over three at a game you can have three in the bench but we were just manufacturing young men from outside the country from Rwanda, Burundi, Tanzania we realized what are we doing wait a minute this was David Googie let's restrict the numbers to make sure that we have our own in the field that is point number one two we must make sure that we also not copy but be ahead of what Ugandan are doing what they were diesel doing some of the best facilities that is where we are going the other years we are taking our own to go and train we have any single now expatriate in Rwanda soon we are going to import from Rwanda to come and train our own it's a matter of time but then your question is what we do we need to sit down we need a very serious politics scandal we need a serious talk where we involve all the stakeholders without looking at how much money I'll be paid after that seminar it is what I'll contribute put down and then have it used in future because I think we are taking how many years before taking part in olympics and you know Paul Bittock 16 good years inspired the team yes KKK played his parts they exactly played their parts the support when they are going to the gym sometimes you go down into a pocket to know our support Natafutazile Kukuzangu Kenchik the Savloons and what have you when they are in the camp you psych them it is an effort of everyone it is not just an individual I'm not saying that Bittock did not play part but because Bittock came how many days before the preparation just a month before they went for qualifier in Cameroon so it was an effort of everyone and Keoni played a very great role made his soul rest in peace because he was persistent when we do not have accommodation we talk to the manager of sports view where he had a problem and they would be accommodated there then we pay later so it is something that was an effort of everyone the media also played a very great role you encourage the young girls and then ultimately our conventional volleyball made it to the Olympic our beach volleyball also made it that is history in making and these federation need to have their own revenue stream so that you know when it comes to accommodation of players probably the government will come in handy when it comes to this international championship facilitation flights but you see these local entities and competitions we can have our own kit that you know facilitated the same it is indeed supposed to be the case I agree with you entirely under this notion of Kenya and Serecharis idea Serecharis idea should die away because what you are supposed to be doing is also coming I agree with the minister entirely we must tell the minister how much money we are getting from FIVB yes of course how much are you getting from FIVB how much are you getting from CAVB by the time we give you what we are giving you to be a person who can pay our needs and need me we don't have to do the double payment and Kenya we have that problem you have seen the governor pay school fees for a student the MCA pays for the same student the MP pays for the same the women rep pays for the and then Nasindo is a person how much are you getting from this structure your governor MCA MPs I mean a women rep to engage in the same sport it is the same thing in sports then once we put it on the table that is a mechanic Kenya may pay for development money 20 million we will be a minister from today we do not want you to help us in the hotel under the camps that we have I will close the board that way we shall move as a team otherwise what is happening in Kenya to naibha pesa kutua kwayin fuku to naibha kwayin gine and then we kill our future your son, daughter will not be able to develop in this country to key in the layer now I have to come and move here come around the office to come now it is the high time at any media to scrutinize same who you move to does it in the support sport although he supports his family and his pocket and ken I think going forward that will restore order in kenyan sports because you have seen what the government is doing and see a sport because even WRC rally championship we told the organizers how can you be using 2.6 billion for a 3 day event and I think the same thing is asking kenya valuable fraternity to account on the resources they get from FIV and the same should you not equal to across all federations where most of it goes you know it doesn't go to them maybe the players the technical bench you know it goes to people maybe the corporate side and that's a huge question because if you cannot take care of the prime resource which is the player I think that's why we really fail even the development because we cannot create superstars from any sport in this country because at some point we are supposed to travel we are supposed to take part in the BSWR7 series and players are taking to social media too vent their frustrations over non-payment I'll give you a good example yes this is a man-eat-man society I go get the money from whichever company take for example this is Sablon these are my supporters for volleyball for many years over 11 years and they have been giving volleyball a million every year learn this tournament and we account to the letter and what we told them we do not want to handle that cash do it to yourself and just come during the final give the winners the cheques buy the uniform yourself do everything give us only we got money going through you yes give us only 100,000 to pay the referees you see and then they found and they were very comfortable if you are not asking us that one million we are going to support you until the cows come home unfortunately covid came and because the company the headquarter is in South Africa we have not been able now to host it from 2018 but we were able to agree with them it is not a matter of money even Dipit Dipit company they sponsor my beach volleyball I tell them we don't need that money keep it 100,000 is for their threat 100,000 is for X, Y, Z come with the cheques give the winners and give your product to the winners do you think federation chiefs can accept that from corporates because safari commanders and mobile service provider always wants to use that formula criteria while supporting Kenyan sporting activities there are many people who are seeing me on eyes and stone they are thinking when they take the money they will say 100,000 is for the party 100,000 is for the party 100,000 is for the party 100,000 is for the party 100,000 is for the party yes and that is the reality after coming here that is why we do not develop sports in this country and not just there I would have named other institution but that it was not name naming but you can find out even from the government whether that is what happens the previous government sorry to say I rest my case so beach volleyball how is it like beach volleyball I told you it is like fire in hamatan it's growing it's growing because of the strong wind and passing through a the dry grass I can tell you we had a very success of beach volleyball in mombasa sponsored by deepit and our threes went home with the money and other than that we were able to be supported by other companies who gave us their product we want to thank the big tree hotel because they give us the venue and we had a fantastic fantastic beach tour which was our last one for the year 2022 we are now planning for year 2023 on Saturday if I am thrown out by the delegates for not working I have said yes I did my bit and what I will do I will just take the person who has defeated me take him to my sponsors not to break the hearts the momentum and I am not saying that I am going to be beaten that even happened because it has happened I can tell you the last time I was beaten I was beaten because of Savlon they said Boudia gets a million and you know the kawid went round that way and people are convinced delegates are convinced the MD from the company said what come and ask me how this money does what but already I was where I was out there was no time now to say no the MD has said it never happened so you are saying the question was how we doing we have set up the structures are still there I must thank Moringa I must thank Oino I must thank Ruth Ropp and sorry because of being there for last it has been working as an engine I must say well oiled and the sky is there in it our target now is 2024 that is next year Pali 2024 Olympics and all african games the Ghanians I am told they have pushed it to next year so next year we shall have african games in Ghana and and Olympic in but we didn't participate one game in Morocco which will affect us big time because volleyball a beach volleyball and like the convection of volleyball you must earn point what you call homorogated tour we missed one homorogated tour in Morocco and that one is going to hit us so I don't want to bring the person who will come over and say that now they have started doing badly already we have that disadvantage of that one game that we missed thank you for coming through Moses Mubia Kenya volleyball affection deputy treasurer talking to us about you know the upcoming KVF election said for next weekend on Saturday and its all systems go preparations have been finalized to make sure that there is proper transitioning after you know passed on and it was buried in midweek on Wednesday and you know Charles Nyaber who is always seeking to get elected in the same capacitor in top seat is acting in that particular docket as we wait for the elections and wish you good luck and all the very best thank the president he was very emotional she cried throughout the zoom meeting and also she sent the president of zone 5 the president from Rwanda was here and he went all the way to Kiamwangi and buried Mr. Kiyoni so the African continent was well represented the president from Togo sent his message the president from Zambia quite a number you can see what what Mr. Kiyoni was was box energy parties and he wrote kinda moments when we got wanted by and the last


Welcome to Toffy TV today. I am joined by a man who scored one of Everton's most important goals ever.  It is of course Gareth Farrelly. Gareth, lovely to have you on Toffy TV mate. No, thank you. It's good to be here. Slightly strange circumstances but still. I wish we were in the studio to be honest. That would be much nicer but obviously at the moment with the social distance and I think more than three metres apart it will be okay. Annie, any interview you have to start with saying that are we following the social distancing guidelines? Exact. I think we're all right. I think we're just about good with that. We'll be okay with this one won't we? Let's talk about Everton and you because I didn't realise at the timing you signed that you were already in Evertonian. I think just with you coming from Aston Villa and things like that you don't really get to know. It was only after you were at Everton people said oh no he was at Evertonian as a boy I didn't realise that. So when did that start over in Ireland was it? Yeah, yeah, yeah absolutely. I think it was, I speak about it quite a lot now even still. But the point was obviously in Ireland at that time everybody was naturally gravitating towards Manchester United or Liverpool. Obviously in Ireland everybody's second club would always have been Celtic but the point for me was I started to see Everton and I started supporting them in probably 1983 now which sounds surreal when you have to do the mental maths to figure out how long that is. But one of the big things was that was as Everton's team was starting to kick on to the team that the greatest Everton team if you like. But also something as simple as what's sat behind you there is I love the kit. We had the half knee of the Le Coqsport's deep kit and that was something as well that at the time was fabulous. So I remember one of my, sounds funny now saying it but one of my Christmas requests was I wanted the Everton kit and I specified in the letter to Father Christmas at that time that I had to be the Le Coqsport's... Outstanding and I suppose Ireland was a big red following in Ireland and Manchester United but there is a real strong core of Everton, fan groups and Evertonians from Ireland as well. So sorry my connections are unstable at the time. I'll edit this out to talk. I'll go again. I was going to say obviously Ireland is a big Liverpool following in Manchester United but there is a big Everton following as well amongst Irish trophies isn't it? No very much so and I think they've got a lot stronger over the last few years as well if you look at some of the Irish players that have played for Everton so it's definitely a strong... Yeah definitely and obviously at that time was Kevin Sheedy one of your idols at that time them at that left foot. Do you know what Baz is funny because someone asked me about it recently and I think he could still rename the whole team. Yeah Kevin Sheedy was massive Trevor Steven all of them all of them. I think it's probably unprecedented that again going back to when you were young and when you were a fan is that you knew everything about everybody. Yeah definitely and the glory for me Baz now being one of them things is that to still get to see some of them now is still incredible got massive respect for them and I think from a club point of view you have to hold those people close because we haven't come remotely close to what those guys achieved. No no no. I had the pleasure of interviewing Nathan Eath earlier this week and he was like my boy-od idol so to speak and that was great and just talking back through some of those games and I know he was a coach wasn't he when you were at Everton as well so massive times for us at Nathan Eath. Incredible players you worked through with Gary Stevens, Derek Mounfield Kevin Ratcliffe, still around, legends Pat Vandenhau, then you go Kevin Sheedy, Peter Reid, Paul Brace, Will Trevor Steven, Andy Gray, Gary Linnaker coming in after all of the people I idolised. Outstanding. So what happened with it? I finished in Baz but then the irony was like people saying some people possibly didn't know and I possibly wasn't very good at promoting it or talking about it but the point was to get to play for the team we supported as a boy from the start of it was incredible. You should have been bang in that room. Honestly you should have been bang in that room at the time you really should have been like it's done now. No no no listen you just wasted on the young. I laugh about it now obviously I signed the day that Howard came back for his third spell and obviously they had the press conference and then I had come up to Goddison to meet him and we spoke about the club with the irony being that I signed a blank contract, we hadn't finished negotiating but I knew I was going to sign for Everton I flew back to Dublin that night knowing that it would be released over the weekend that all I wanted to do was play for Everton so it was like I was fulfilling what would have been a dream when I was a kid. It obviously did not play out like the perfect dream but that was the thought behind it. That's incredible. What happened? Did you go from Ireland over to Aston Villa or did that come about? The school boy club I played for in Ireland was a club called Home Farm which developed lots of really really top players and continued to do so for quite a while. Ronnie Whalen played there and yeah the scouting system and then went across to Aston Villa and Aston Villa at the time was the club that I thought I would settle at the best and hopefully be able to develop so different times. Different times yeah different times indeed and then so how did Everton come about then because I think you played eight games for Villa or something like that? Yeah Villa was difficult because I had a different relationship with some of the coaching staff there and as I say I knew I had at one point I had more senior caps for Ireland than I had appearances for Aston Villa so I knew when my contract came to an end that I was going to be leaving it would have been very unlikely that I was going to stay and at that time there was lots of interest and lots of clubs that wanted to speak to me and the opportunity of signing for clubs but then as we say you come back to when Everton were interested and when Howard came back in it was I didn't speak to anybody else. Incredible. So I guess that was quite exciting when you were there Everton and him for you like you just said you're thinking boy your dream and everything else that's the club I want to go to and remember you coming in and how it had been brilliant at this in his first spell of Everton and bringing players through who people wouldn't really know about and I wonder if that added to the pressure not for you from a personal level but from supporters who were thinking who's this GM that Howard Kendall signed and that you come into a team unfortunately for yourself that was just all over the place really it was unsettled because even Howard got there himself almost by accident really because that summer had been I remember Peter Johnson was there and you'll be pleasantly surprised by the whale class manatee we get in the summer and we were linked with Andy Gray and another villa in Everton and there was Wim Van Hanagham I don't know whether you remember him a Dutch coach and then all of a sudden it was Howard Kendall and we were like oh ok and then Gareth Farrelly's coming as well and it was a bit of a strange time I think for the club so it mustn't have been you could have come in at a better time I think I was trying to say in a convoluted way there I like how diplomatic you are there even with your use of the word gem I'm just saying No no no listen no no no we laugh at these things and the big thing is obviously the end of this story is incredible but the point is within that I've given no thought to how difficult the previous few years have been at Everton I wasn't sat and calculating setting out at pros and cons the fundamental reality for me was my heart ruled my head at the time there was an opportunity to play for Everton and I wanted to do it so then the next point like you say is you actually come into a situation that was really really alien to me because my appearances if you like at villa or breaking through was into a team that was in the top 6 was competing was very very strong and you were in an environment that was possibly a little bit different also I probably didn't really even though I was a fan understand the intensity of playing for Everton and again that's only something you kind of get used to because of how demanding it was and that's like one of the things I still see with some of the players now be it young players you come in or be it players that come to Everton is that there's a degree of weakening with regard to the expectation and what it really really means and for players sometimes people can step up to that and sometimes it takes them a little bit longer to get used to it in some cases people won't and that's obviously back to the history of Everton the expectation and how big the club is so for me that was just part of that learning curve I was 21 I knew nothing you know what I mean so for me the point was that again people measure performance and bravery different ways so as a footballer you want the ball if you don't have the ball you're not contributing Everton had been at the dogs of war which again people perceived bravery as being if you kick someone into the stands that means you must care and you're bothered about the team it wasn't necessarily that so there was a huge amount of learning done that year to obviously not as it would have been expected or not as it was presented to me at the start is that come and play for the team your support and love and then you're going to be in a relegation battle all year and as a young player you're going to be one of the ones most heavily involved in that so it wasn't easy by any means and there was other young players in a similar position at that time but also some of the senior players who were at different stages of their career that it wasn't an easy environment in any way no so on that were you surprised by how difficult it was given in terms of with the supporters we know what we can be like we are demanding unforgiving at times and that's what I was trying to say before I think you might have got more leeway with some fans as you've been saying I'm a massive Evertonian I love this club but it was such a difficult time being a fan at that time we had our moments there was times when it looked like things were starting to get a bit better we beat Liverpool in the Derby which was a big thing yeah yeah yeah and then obviously we didn't lose to Liverpool that year but yeah for me as a young player it was just a massive learning experience some of which was good some of which wasn't because like you say it was a different challenging very diplomatically put there no no no it's funny because like you say through the course of the year say you as a creative player as a footballer you wanted to create goals you wanted to try and score goals I made goalkeepers look great I hit people in the stand I hit people but you keep trying to do the right things and as I say for people now is that what an outcome it would be very very easy to disappear and not try and continue to do those things and then you just disappear without a trace so in bringing the story together if you look at how difficult that season had been stories that things that went on that year that I would have never encountered or seen in my life at that point and probably never saw again but to have the outcome we did is probably the only reason why we're having the conversation today and I'm very very grateful and respectful of that I remember you scoring against Gunthor in the league cup so yeah that's me gag that's the gag when people say you only scored one goal and he was there ah you never it was two I mean worry your obviously we'll get onto the the great bit in a minute worry your overriding memories of that games that stuck out that season for you which were you know it was a difficult season but like I say we did have some good moments we had a Derby win three days after one of the most horrific event and performances I've ever seen against Coventry in the league cup and obviously Howard was having a few issues with the crates your finger wagging and all of that went on but we also beat Chelsea around that year we beat Bolton with Duncan Fagus Matthew over Christmas and stuff like that so there was some good performances and victories within not a great season if I can put it like that yeah again diplomatic to the end yeah there was a lot of challenging times yeah but this is the fascinating thing about football and people's history because I obviously signed for Bolton after my time at Everton and the Bolton fans obviously let me know in no one's certain terms that they considered the goal I scored to be the goal that got them relegated one of the other key issues that season was we obviously played in the first game at the Reebok stadium which is where Terry feeling head of the ball off the line that their position was if there had been goal line technology it would have been a goal and that would have had an impact on different things like that so that's the thing isn't it but the nice part is everybody remembers a certain part of those things and everybody kind of has their memories associated with that but fundamentally for us the most important point and that is that Everton stayed in the Premier League just to come back to Bolton fans with two things first of all Nathan Blech fouled Neville Southall he had his arm in his face which stopped Neve getting the ball before feeling head of the from behind the line he did it, it did go in but it was a foul and secondly they got a goal down a filler which didn't cross the line and they'd be filler I think 3-1 2-1 or 3-1 a filler par and the ball didn't go over the line you got given so I'm just knocking a couple of them back at Bolton there by the way ha ha ha ha ha going in I spoke to it like you mentioned before I spoke to Adrian if the other day and he was talking about that the drive to the stadium that day he said you'd stayed on the whittle I think he said and coming through the tunnel and there was Everton we've stayed in Parkgate okay did you have an ice cream yeah we trained no no we were kept clear of the ice creams but we trained on this Saturday as normal but unusually for a home game we all went and stayed in the hotel so that whole weekend I'd be interested like you say to what Adrian had to say but it was a it was a surreal weekend he said it was weird I think the build up to it what was really mad about this was that it was the only game I missed I was in we'd had a holiday booked to Florida and I was thinking when it was booked I was thinking have and see by then last game of the season we'll be in Europe or something by then and I'll enjoy it from afar and anyway I went we were in Florida and obviously this is 1998 so we've barely got internet there's no phones, there's no streams there's nothing you know and exactly I could have watched it now quite comfortable but we were staying we were in Orlando gone up to see a friend he was working he works for NASA now so there you go but he was up there and he put his internet put his computer on and he was sure enough face 10 minutes he comes up fairly 1-0 so I'm dancing around you know and then we were going to Clearwater Beach so I got in the car with us winning 1-0 drove about 3 hours to this beach seeing a phone phoned home and my mum thought it was my brother so I'm going what happened with Everton and she's going you've just come back from the match really on about and I'm like mum it's barely on 5000 miles tell me the results you went well we're winning 1-0 and we get a penalty a Nicky Barnbyd and I'm going you know and then Thomas Mayer threw one in his net and I'm like oh my god are we up and eventually she said yeah but that was my story what was it like for you as a player going into that weekend what was the build up like the week before because obviously we were struggling with me to say the least no no no it had been an incredible week because scarily we'd obviously played Arsenal away on the Sunday and got beaten 4-0 watching them receive the Premier League trophy and then on the Monday it was quite interesting because there was a corporate day arranged because remember if you go back to 1-1 being the sponsor at the time and there was I'd played the second half against Arsenal but there was a lot of the players who had asked to play in a mini derby on the Monday we wanted match time we wanted like game time so I think they went to Pontifat races and there was a group of us played in the game and we beat Liverpool and then we were keen to train throughout the week so I think there was a day off midweek but the players wanted to be in the players wanted to train and then we trained on the Saturday and the decision had been made to all stay together on the Saturday night and again for me at that time in Furnish given the people that had been put forward to do the press that week I was still waiting to see whether you were going to play or not so for me obviously on the Sunday then when the team was named it was a big thing in the first place but I think everybody's memories again of that day was that the drive to Goodison was incredible because of the people out on the street you get to the ground and you could feel it was something special and so for me with regards to that it wasn't we all knew the significance of the game but there was something kind of exciting about the atmosphere and the environment and one of the funny things was I think the FAU team had won the FAU cup they were on the pitch, the women had won their league they were on the pitch beforehand Goodison was nearly full for the warm-up and I think you had that feeling which again happens quite a lot and it's quite interesting given where we are at the moment with the pandemic is that it was like everything that had gone before became irrelevant and the most important thing on that day was to get a positive result and that's why it was it was a fabulous thing to be a part of and then you have a situation where to score my first goal at Goodison in that way on that day was a huge thing so we can talk about Nicky Barnby Thomas Martin had been magnificent that year in fairness to him and I always felt that his season was not determined by that mistake because the point is true he had been one of the players that had been absolutely stand out but then fundamentally to have that outcome and you talk about your story from Clearwater but there's still people that would come up to me today now and say I was on the pitch at the end their story around how that day was for them so for me as a blue having had the life I've had it's still humbling to be a part of something like that especially given the fact that thankfully we've never been in a position like that again now and you're at it with your swinger yeah listen all the big ones went in off the swinger play off final a few years later went in off the swinger as well so I don't care I left or right as I say I think you probably don't think about these things at all or the significance of them it's only when you finish playing but I took my son to Goodison probably four or five years ago and he hadn't been he was probably eight at the time and again you walk into the main stand and before the game they obviously were showing some of the the goals and the highlights from the club and he's there eight and that's he's looking at that goal on the big screen so you kind of see it through the child's eyes and a fan again and you kind of think well wow that's something to be proud of I would listen and now it didn't work out probably the way you wanted it to but he scored one of the most important goals in evidence history and no one could ever take it away from you and I guess if if someone said play for Everton essentially for a season score one of the most important goals ever in their history when you were a kid with nothing at this year if someone would have offered you that I'm sure you'd have took it wouldn't you No completely but you see this is how football works and it's a crazy game because the irony for that is having had a difficult year that year you get to what you consider to be the top of the summit I met Howard Kendall the next week and we had a conversation about how that season had gone and it was an open frank conversation and then discussing the future and what's going to happen and then he was sacked at the end of that week and then you come back to pre-season looking forward to it because of what you've come through and like you say knowing that you would have possibly got some leeway based on what had happened and then you have a manager who turns around and says to you, I don't want you you can go so you go from that outcome to playing 8 minutes football that year I played in the Cardiw equivalent cup in a game against Oxford which we were poor we hadn't played any games, we lost 1-0 and then I played 8 minutes football that year so yeah devastating having to think through what we'd come through but again that's part and parcel of the game and that's the bit now so like you say, when you look at the scenario would you take it? Absolutely but equally I say you just wasted on the young there was decisions I made at that time looking back now with a bit more maturity I would have done things slightly differently because that was the first season and then the second season we were still there and there was an incredibly talented group but the club wanted rid of us so we had a situation where pre-season started on the 7th of July on the 14th of June running around Crockie Park so it was hilarious now obviously there was no social distancing provisions in place at that time but people out walking their dogs in Crockie Park and there's a group of seven or eight Everton players running around Crockie Park three weeks before everybody else returned because the manager and the club wanted to get rid of us I mean that's mad no listen it's part of the game but I'm saying that it's not how it's portrayed sometimes and like there are the things that within that pre-season then I did incredibly well and the manager actually pulled me in and said you've done incredibly well we're going to Italy I want to bring you and I like I told him I didn't want to go in different terms but back to having a bit more maturity if I had done that things may have possibly been a little bit different but the point is I had no relationship within at that time as a young player having spent 12 to 15 months not playing football again he just wanted to play and so you were not so I guess it wasn't a difficult decision to leave Everton then for Bolton because no no no because again irrespective of how much you love the club you wanted to play and you're always weighing things up and at the time you're obviously looking at that manager and you're going well they're not going to get rid of him so the likelihood is he's going to be able to outlive me you can take on power and you can take on the establishment but realistically you're never going to win no no speaking about Don Huttish we were speaking to Don Huttish obviously you'd play with Don wouldn't you because he'd come in at that time and then went on to be Everton's captain but Walter Smith let him go as well when he was absolutely flying for us so there was some I won't say too much about Walter but he's not one of my favour to Everton managers let's put it there no no no but the only thing I'll say for him is like you say part of that situation was my own mistakes and that's the point again that you talk about when you're in the eye of the storm your decision making is possibly different to what it would be depending on the people you have around you to take a different view on these things and that's one of the things that it wasn't all down to him no no fair enough for you to say but I'm talking from a fan's perspective now with him no no no from a fan's perspective you've absolutely nailed it because when I look over your right shoulder that jersey and the point you said about would I take it absolutely exactly that's the standard for me but that's where it is obviously you still went on and played for Bolton you had a great career like you say scored in the playoffs like that and then you've struck the very unusual route of not staying in football for modern day footballers you know a lot of people will coach or try to be a pundit or whatever but you've decided to become a lawyer which is no no no listen I did all of those things I just did them earlier I know you were managing in Ireland you managed in Ireland you go back to bad decisions and I fell out with Sam at 28 okay and I'd have my fill of it I'd have my fill of it dealing with people like that and I got offered a player manager's job and I thought here was an opportunity to try and mould something and do build my own sort of not legacy or club or different things I had very very strong ideas about that but as a player you have to deal with a manager whereas when you become a manager you have to deal with a board of directors so I kind of learnt my lessons very early with regards to that and that's why coaching and management I still have a small interest but I didn't want to follow on with that and then I got sick I got sick 12 years ago this month and again it ties into well a life changing experience for me and I'm only here now because of the quality compassion and skill of the NHS and I'm a huge ambassador and advocate for that and my heart beats for them every day because of how they looked after me I had a stomach aneurysm long story short and part of 10% that lived from that so when I say these people are true heroes that is absolutely my position and will never change and that's why every opportunity I get is to highlight the quality and the strength of these people especially with where we're at now I only have a gent today just going through some stuff it's the first time I've even heard that you've been on well but it's incredible you're looking fantastic by the way and the NHS are they're absolutely amazing they're unbelievable they're the heroes forget about anything else and we love our club and we love everything else but no one in my opinion comes close to those doctors, nurses even cleaners in the hospital who are putting their lives at risk every single day to keep people safe so for me they're my mum's still alive because of the lump in the throat but my mum's still alive because of the NHS and what they're able to do and it is to give untold credit as far as I'm concerned and like you've just said, they're unbelievable and that's the nice thing about dudes they're doing these things as we can talk about the football which is great but also it gives me an opportunity to be able to try and shine a light on those people and out of everything for today like that's where there isn't a day that I don't think of them and I have constant admiration for them and there shouldn't even be a conversation political or not about these people being resourced properly because they're compromising themselves for others every day and I think that Everton because of the position we hold is a responsibility to shine that light and also show how grateful we are to them absolutely agree spot on me one thing I wanted to ask you about obviously you just mentioned within unprecedented times and we are in it at the moment it's such a strange world we're living in it at the moment with lockdowns and things like that and all we can do is follow the guidelines and try to help the NHS by not putting them a bigger strain on them but in terms of a football perspective in our lifetimes this is the strangest time isn't it that there's no football the last time it stopped I think was the second world war so there's no football and you being obviously involved in the legal aspects and everything else what are the real challenges Garth because we know that we keep seeing the Premier League coming back in June and it's going to be easy to do this and that but when you actually break it all down it's such a complex thing to try to put these games on and you know I know there's nine games left and money will always play a factor but there's so much to consider isn't it being able to bring it back while these lockdown measures are in place oh god and listen, that's why sports lawyers at the moment are becoming ever more popular and ever more present in the media but the fundamental reality is nobody can really answer those questions yet and I think that's what makes it so people like certainty and the reality is that nobody can actually talk about that and the biggest thing for me at the moment with some colleagues and friends is that it's not just here, that's on a European level so you have people who are lawyers within clubs you have people who work within the leagues and the federations and you've got not even legal actual footballing staff so you can talk about now about trying to keep people fit and them having their programmes and we talk about what we didn't know before all of this started even Zoom so like we're in a whole new territory but there has been some guidance from FIFA over the last couple of days with regard to extending the contracts and what that will bring and what ramifications there will be for new seasons new transfer windows new contracts or pre contracts that were signed so I think football have dealt with it quite well given some of the given how some of the leaders if you like in politics have dealt with things I think football have sought to deal with it and be proactive and I think that's to their credit I think the reality no matter what way we speak about it is I think the season has to finish and I think that I can't see any other way but for that to be the case and nobody can actually predict when that will be I think you look at some of the bigger German clubs returning to training yesterday and again Germany appear to have dealt with it as they do in a very very collective proactive collegiate way and I think sometimes there's interesting parts around that because we're all in it together until we're not and I think in times of crisis that's when you start to see the true value of people and where they're really at so there's been huge media focus on particular points some that have been done to distract from real issues and that's still ongoing on a daily basis but I think you can't risk people's health you can't speculate when the reality at the moment unfortunately is we don't know the answers to these things yeah I mean you put it a lot more eloquently than me did but yeah it is it's such a mad one the football league have said something today that the planning on finishing the games it'll take 56 days it'll be behind closed doors the players due to return to training on May the 16th I think that they're trying to think ahead of guests to try to get these games played out but we're all guessing at the moment at me they have to be proactive the administrators are in a very difficult position but the point is we don't know where we started our conversation we don't know if we're at the top of the curve yet and obviously people are having to process a huge amount of information the reality at the moment is there's nearly a thousand people digested and whilst we all love our football and again you go back to having an opportunity to talk about things Everton in the community is a shining light with regards to the work they've done and again I can sit and talk to you but a lot of the people that people may not know who do incredible work and I have the pleasure of doing and being invited to a lot of the stuff that Everton in the community do again it's humbling and it's fabulous to be asked to still be involved they're the important things for me football will get to it ramifications and technical issues and lots to play out over time but fundamentally it will only be achieved by universal decision making as I say and that's quite fascinating at the moment because given the excesses of media and sky sports and their absolute reliance on football it's quite interesting now because they've got nothing to talk about that other things have come into the spotlight and again politics the players came out yesterday and did something awesome having been one of the groups that were picked out and identified for criticism which again I don't think was warranted so we live in unprecedented times but I think you have to fundamentally we have to have a return to some compassion and caring about people 100% and you're absolutely vital to highlight Everton in the community is who we know and she's fantastic green is incredible I know you've climbed Snowden in the dark for Everton in the community but we were to do it again we were to do it again that fell foul of the virus so hopefully we'll get to it again later in the year it's an incredible thing and it's something to be as an Evertonian it's something to be proud of the blue family stuff they're doing at the moment phoning people at home pet sister is recovering from cancer got a phone call from Moise Keane and things like that it really makes a big difference seeing Carlo and things like that You had Duncan the other day far too often now we live in a sanitised pure world where everything is put in place not for the right reasons whereas there's always something nice being done that makes you proud to have that association Yeah definitely Very much so I've took enough of your time today I know you're an incredibly busy man and you've probably got players phoning you're saying What's happening with my contract if I've got a play into your life when it runs out in June but listen thank you so much for taking the time out to speak to us today and hopefully in a few weeks when there's a little bit more clarity we'll be able to have another chat about the legal side and where we're at maybe More than happy to do that and stay safe and stay home It's been brilliant to speak to you Look after yourselves And you listen, take care of yourself Gareth lovely to speak to you All the best So a big thanks there to Gareth Farry man who scored one of Everton's most important goals certainly in the Premier League era Big thanks to him for taking time out of his day to join us there Fantastic chat Very very insightful and when you see things through his eyes or was a very different place Make sure you subscribe, get the video a thumbs up and if you want more great videos join us over on Patreon Like Gareth said, stay safe See you soon


When we stimulate an amphibian nerve muscle preparation with an electrical stimulus what we get is a simple muscle twitch. So here we are showing this S1 means the stimulus is given on the nerve and that is stimulus is also recorded and this is showing the response of the muscle that is simple muscle twitch. Now the simple muscle twitch as we know has two phases that is the phase of contractions so if we draw a line like this from the start of the contraction this is the contraction phase to the maximum height of the contraction then from the maximum height of contraction to the end of relaxation so this is the relaxation phase and from the point of the stimulus to the beginning of the contraction there is another period that is the latent period. So there are three periods when we record a simple muscle twitch latent period contraction period and relaxation period. Now in this video we will see what will be the effect on simple muscle twitch if we give two successive stimuli that is two stimuli one after the other. So in this picture what we are seeing two stimuli are given and you see with the first stimulus we have recorded a simple muscle twitch and then after a sufficient time has passed second stimulus is given so this is S2 that is the second stimulus and again we get a simple muscle twitch. So is there any difference between these two simple muscle twitches no they are exactly the same so in this particular picture we don't see any effect of second stimulus when the second stimulus is given after a sufficiently long time after the first stimulus. Now let us keep the second stimulus little earlier so you see in this picture what we are seeing that this is S1 right and this is a simple muscle twitch and as soon as the simple muscle twitch has ended that is a relaxation has occurred the second stimulus is given and what is the effect here what we see is that that there is a increase in the height of contraction okay so with the second stimulus given just after the end of the simple muscle twitch resulting from first stimulus what we get is that there is increase in height of contraction now suppose if we give it little bit more early so suppose the muscle is relaxing and here only we give the second stimulus then what will happen we will obtain a graph something like this right so the muscle was relaxing here but because of the second stimulus another nerve action potential has generated which has gone to the muscle causing muscle action potential which ultimately causes the muscle contraction so the muscle was relaxing but it is not able to relax due to the second stimulus there is start of new contraction right plus this new contraction now has more height so what we are seeing here in which phase the second stimulus is given it is given in the relaxation phase of the simple muscle twitch fine now let's bring the second stimulus much earlier let's give it during the contraction period itself then what is going to happen well you see here this graph is showing that just here in this part what we have shown is just a simple muscle twitch obtained by a single stimulus but here what we are seeing is that two successive stimuli are given such that the second stimulus falls in the contraction phase of the simple muscle twitch so you see this graph is similar to a simple muscle twitch however we get a increased height of contraction so that is the reason that why I've shown two graphs here because if you see it alone then you will not understand that what is the effect of the second stimulus you will think that there is only one response here correct there is one response but you see the height of contraction has more this is because when the muscle was contracting due to the first stimulus due to second stimulus we get another response from the muscle right and both the response get added up causing increase in the height of the contraction so there is summation of contraction in the muscle right so this is summation of contraction fine now if we give the second stimulus till earlier right so as soon as the first stimulus is over maybe in the latent period itself if we give the second stimulus what will be the response what we see is that there is no effect of the second stimulus right so we are getting only a single simple muscle twitch so what we saw that when it was given in the contraction period we got an increased height but in this one you see it is the same height as that of the simple muscle twitch obtained by a single stimulus so just let us quickly see what is the reason for all these effects in the first one what we saw that it was given at the end of the relaxation period second stimulus was given at the end of the relaxation period and we get increased height of contraction so basically this effect on the simple muscle twitch due to the second stimulus is due to beneficial effect caused by the first contraction so this effect increase in height of contraction which we are seeing is due to the beneficial effect and what is this beneficial effect actually what is happening that due to the stimulus and then the muscle action potential there is a release of calcium in the muscle that we are aware that calcium is important for the excitation contraction coupling and this calcium causes the contraction of the muscle and for relaxation this calcium needs to be moved out of the muscle and then the muscle will relax right so here what happens that the calcium is being released and here the calcium has started moving out of the muscle and it is going down but when the second stimulus is given all the calcium which has entered into the cytoplasm of the muscle has not gone back into the psychoplasmic reticulum okay so some extra calcium is remaining in the cytoplasm and due to which the second stimulus leads to adding up of the calcium because second stimulus is also going to release calcium and this calcium will add up to the remaining calcium and there will be more calcium in the cytoplasm okay and as we know calcium is directly linked to the strength of the contraction so increased calcium means increase in the height of the contraction so that is why what we are seeing is in this one if we see that when the second stimulus is given after sufficient duration such that all the calcium which was released with the first stimulus it has entered back into the cytoplasmic reticulum in that case we get the same height of contraction okay so beneficial effect we get due to increased calcium second reason for beneficial effect is increase in temperature you see whenever there is use of ATP there is some heat released also and this causes increase in temperature increase in temperature decreases the resistance of movement and that is why we get increase in height of contraction now same is the reason for all the increase in height which we are seeing when the stimulus is given in our relaxation period or in contraction period only thing you remember if we compare it with the stimulus given in say here then the height of contraction which we will see increase height of contraction it will be little less only maybe this much height has increased the earlier we give more is the increase in the height of the contraction can you guess why well yes because more is the increase in the calcium isn't it if we give second stimulus here then you see very less calcium has it turned back to the cytoplasmic reticulum that is why the increase in height of contraction will be much more if the second stimulus is given earlier fine so same is the case in this case also where the stimulus is given in the contraction period we are not seeing any relaxation because the muscle has not started relaxing all the calcium is in the cytoplasm only and with the second stimulus more calcium is added right so we get an increased height of contraction now let's come to the final part that why here we are not getting any effect drop the second stimulus well you see this is because the second stimulus has fallen into the refractory period now when we talk about simple muscle twitch actually this is the mechanical activity this is a very important concept you should remember I see many students getting confused in this the simple muscle twitch is mechanical activity while when we talk about refractory period we are talking about electrical activity so what we are saying is that when the first stimulus arose there will be a action potential in the nerve right and then there will be a muscle action potential so muscle action potential will be something let me redraw this muscle action potential will start here and it will be something like this and what we see is that this second muscle action potential first initially in our action potential then it travels it will generate muscle action potential it will fall in the refractory period of the first action potential right so that means actually in the muscle there will be no new action potential two stimulus are causing only one action potential and all the previous crap what happens at the second stimulus leads to generation of a new action potential and that new action potential is responsible for contraction here because S2 is falling in the refractory period we will not get a new action potential and that is why we get a single simple muscle twitch and before I end I just want to ask one question which I generally ask in these graphs that is the effect of simple muscle twitch which we are seeing here in other graphs is it violating all or none law because we are seeing with second stimulus there is increase in height of contraction so is this effect violating all or none law you can type your answers in the comment section below well thanks for watching the video if you liked it do press the like button share the video with others and don't forget to subscribe to the channel physiology open thank you


Okay, Rick, please do not make Corbin learn Hindi. I love seeing him not be able to speak Hindi and messing up every Hindi movie title ever. Please don't make him learn Hindi. Please. Please. Please. I'm with you.  And Corbin, this is Rick. Please follow us on Instagram and Twitter. It's so juicy. It's so juicy. Not you. I need to join you on that. Because I thought you were gonna do... I didn't know you were jumping straight into Instagram and Twitter that soon. Oh, you're old. Come on. Here we go. So, uh, that video at the top, or the voice... Yo, you need to talk to him. He just didn't let me do Instagram and Twitter with you. Um, that was from a Instagram follower of Rick. Yep. Who sent that to him. He's part of the Instagram family.  At least I got the Twitter in. So, today we'll be reacting to a very requested... They're all very requested.  I know, but in the last one, somebody said, react to this and it got like 200 likes on it. Oh, wow. Well, I guess this one really is very requested. It's called English Vinglish. Well, okay. I think I pronounced that one correctly. Darn you. I'm guessing it's like English Vinglish. All right, so what is this? I know you. Is this a music video? No, it's a movie. Here we go. Enjoy the film. That's cute. Next. How you doing today, man? I want, uh... I asked how you were doing today. Ouch. Rude. I'm doing... What is the purpose of your visit to the United States? My sister's attending the meeting. What? Your brown breasts have yet under. This is all because of your new dance class. What about you? Dance class. Mom, this is your job done. This is jazz done. Can you study at home? You teach me English literature. Oh, wow. I don't even know English properly. My wife, she was born to make love to me friends. I'm just not born to make love to you. Hello. English tuition? I came coming. You may not. Anita asked me. Eva. Salman Khan. I should see. Oh, she's adorable. From India. No, so she's not from the India. From India. Why India? Not the India. Why America? The United States of America. You're not actually not from India. She was adorable. Adorable. And can I say that I just... That made me sad. Right? And I've got to tell you with all the films we watch and everything now, I've always seen some of the stereotypical, as actors we pay attention to every little detail of human being.  The little head... It is so endearing. The little... With the hand movement that goes with it that happened a lot when Gully Boy comes back. Everybody does that to him. He comes walking down. There's two old guys that look at him. It's such a peaceful, sweet gesture. And I am so... And that looks... I think it's just... It's used regularly. Like the girls did it in Dungal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whether it's yes, I don't know. Maybe it's always a little... It doesn't mean like yes. I don't think... I think it's a universal... It's an acknowledgement sometimes. It's an agreeing sometimes. It just seems to be used all of the time. It's just a part of the culture and the people. It's quite interesting. I don't know if the subs were off. They seemed to be. At first they were off because of her language. That's what I was wondering. Right. If they actually were off or if they were only off because it thought she was saying something that she was just saying it incorrectly. Right. It caught up at the end, it seemed. I'm hoping this has like a social message. And it looks like it does. I love that she's in the United States. I love that it's her. And it looks like it's going to point out what we talk about all the time. The stereotypes that we have put on Indian people who come here or are born here but are of Indian descent. Especially those who don't have English as their first language. I love that line at the end.  Yeah. There's not much that makes me more mad outside of hurting animals than intolerance. Yes. It pisses me off. And bigotry. And prejudice. It pisses me off. We don't have tolerance for it. Yes. In fact, we were talking in the car about a message I got from somebody that was born out of the stereotypes. It was just this news article and it was just born out of the stereotypes that are rampant and anything we can do, man, with our circle of influence and this movie looks like it's that kind of a message of forget the freaking stereotypes, man, and we're people. And we're people. I'm wondering when it came out. It looked at least a little recent. It looks recent. And I think it's partly like a romantic comedy as well. Good grief. 2000 and freaking 12. It's kind of sad that 2012 seems like a long time ago. It's kind of sad that we were oblivious to this stuff four freaking months ago, man. Read the... A quiet, sweet, temperate housewife endures small slights from her well-educated husband and daughter every day because of her inability to speak and understand English. Love it. I want to see it. How did it do? Good. It did well. Although I want to know what the budget was and how much it made. So it grossed 3 million worldwide. That's sick. It needed to make more net just from the trailer. How much did it cost though? Yeah, that's what I want to know. Where was the main girl from? Have we seen her in anything? I don't recognize her. I'm sure she's done stuff and people will tell us, yeah, you've seen her in this. You've seen her in that. Did that say she was in mom? Like the series? Looks like she was in zero. No, that's the film. So she's in zero? She was in... Nothing else. The Oscars. In memoriam. What? Did she pass away? Did she really? Go back to her page. Oh no. Crap. Oh no.  Yeah. That's so sad. I'm glad to see that they had her in memoriam on the Oscars.  Obviously we didn't notice that. Yeah. Because we hadn't been paying attention.  How old was she? She was young. She is young. She's six years older than me. So she was only in her fifties.  Wow. That's awful. Yep. I want to see this all the more now. Yeah. Please let us know how it was. Maybe you want to watch it more now. Yep. Should we review it? I mean, from all of the upvotes and how many times you have requests in the comments. It looks... I'm guessing it looks good. It looks like a beautiful little film. I'm all... Obviously we're loving your concert. We're all about the social message of acceptance. Yeah. No matter what country you're in. Yeah. Making somebody feel bad for not... You know, loving people and accepting people is kind of universal, don't you think? Yeah. Also, the United States doesn't have an official language. It was almost German. You know that? Yeah. It was. It was almost German. There's probably actually more people here that speak Spanish now than English. Oh. That's for sure. Yeah. Spanish is more dominant now than even English. Yeah. Spanish is how we're one language people and we're okay with that. The rest of the world is multiple language and they make themselves learn English. We make ourselves learn nothing. It's English and it's like... It's because we speak American and we have to speak American like us. And then there's people here, believe it or not, who think that if you don't have English as your main language and you want to live here, you darn well better do it or you're not an American. Murder. Now see, he's going to murder people. So the two of us will be... So obviously we highly care about these little issues of acceptance. Acceptance and love and not being just an A-hole. Yep. So let us know how it is. I would very much like to watch this. And we'll review it if we should, especially since she's not around anymore. I would just do that out of honouring her. R.I.P. Say her name for me. She's just a one-name actress. Oh, please let me do this, right? Sridevi. Sridevi? Sridevi. Well, I hope that's right. She deserves her name pronounced correctly. As does everybody. You looked awesome. Now I'm going to stay and watch it. Yep.