Yeah, definitely depends on the year, but they could have something to do with December. Yeah, they really do.  It's difficult when you have hearing aids. You know what? That's why I got one of these.  And did you wear glasses permanently? Yeah, glasses too, I could put these on. Well, you know, it's an offer of half a million dollars that someone could invent a mask from a divided administration. Half a million dollars that you could invent a mask that will not affect your hearing aids and your glasses. Oh, yeah? Yeah, so someone, well that's a little bit of an enticement. And that is an enticement because then, but they would own the power. Nope, half a million dollars. Can we add in that fog of the glasses too? Yeah! It'd be probably one of those with the scrap up here and the scrap back there. Yeah, because he's in the medical room. Yeah. You know, yeah. I'm one of the friends along my library and there is one of the guys there who wears a mask which doesn't fog up his glasses because up here there's like an extra piece that goes to like here. So of course I asked him when he got it. And he told me by the age when they say, well my wife got it for me. Oh! That's funny. When your wife got it for you, like, really? Well in the Bible, in the Bible it says that Adam was here alone and he said, and God said, man, you should not be alone. He knew what he was doing when he did that. The whole story of my wife works in a hospital and she got it for the mask. That's where mine came from. Oh, man. I wish she did. There are a lot of places where a few of the men are in the hospital. Okay. Supply chain, here we come. We had two cousins from Las Vegas. My cousin and her husband. She had to have an 80th birthday party. Thank God that my wife and I were going to go stay with them for the party. We didn't go for any of the birthday parties. But we changed our film back in the 40s. That had been hostile. She had not been vaccinated. Oh, gosh. But they both passed away. Well, yeah, and they were in that age group. Yeah, 80 and 85. Yeah, there we go. But he had been vaccinated. He lasted about 10 days longer than she was. But you may not know what he had done. He died of. Did he have died of yeast? No. Was he obese? No. Just a broken heart that they've been married a while. Well, he cried with me when she said, I just want to die. I'm suffering. And then his last words to his daughter is ended with him. I guess that the thing that I understand is the leaking part of it. So we can even realize how hard it can be. You know, just at the last. I just can't imagine the good Lord was watching over us on that one. Yeah. We were going to be right in the middle of all that. Six people got it at that time. But I'd never heard about the other people. I didn't want you to do this. I'm fine with that. I put it on and take it off. Yes. Let's call you to order. Yep. I have to do it. Oh, here she is. Hello. Okay. Okay. We have our gifts, Marcia and Michelle and Tyler. Welcome. So thank you. But first, just let's go over the minutes of the last meetings. Does everybody read them? Are there any attorneys? I think you captured it quite well. I like the whole stuff. I'm very sorry I missed that one. You're no turn. I hope so. I'll make a motion. All second. Business. Yeah. So why don't you tell folks who you are if you have it. If I missed that. Yeah. Yeah. So. Transportation. For the city. I heard some questions or some discussion earlier on. And if there's questions in your time, I can definitely talk to some of those that we talked about earlier. So the main reason I'm here today is talk a little bit about pedestrian crosswalks. I understand there are questions about. I don't know the full question, but in terms of the time displayed on the countdown display might seem too short. So if there's any specific questions, I can, I can definitely answer questions, but to give kind of a brief overview of how those work and how we come up with what is the time on displayed on those countdowns. So when we start with those relatively basic and rudimentary measurement, how far is it from one ramp to the other? This is more of my, I look at how we live by this book here, the manual on the Ukraine control devices. And it says the city is adopted this book as a code or exterior. It says that we use a walking speed of three and a half per second. So 10 years ago, 15 years ago the walk speed used to be four feet per second. The current version will slow, which will have to be per second at the time that we use, or assume we use for the calculations in distance over time. You have to go this far at three and a half feet per second. Let's always come off with the number for the clearance interval. And now it's not exactly the number that you would see on the countdown. So if you take a measurement divided by three and a half, it's not exactly the number you see displayed on the countdown. And the reason for that is we're also using the time there's a yellow and red clearance interval that happens. And so the countdown is zero on the walk. There's still a yellow and red clearance interval that's found as part of the walk time, the clearance interval. So anytime you're crossing, the minimum you're going to have is an additional three seconds after that countdown gets to zero. So as long as the signal is still yellow, red, you still have, you're still within your walk interval. There are no conflicting difference.  So that's... Well, I had a question. So, give them a break. Let me finish. Before you ask your questions, Aneed, my question has to do with this book. And is there different distance over time for different kinds of streets? So, not really. So the difference would be there is still an allowance if you have an intersection that's at capacity, say in Bratton, Maine, where it's really busy and backed up and it's kind of terrible about everyone. We do have an opportunity to use a 40% walk speed to shorten the walk time. So people have to go quicker. It's an option. And so the other thing is, I'm just talking so far about the clearance interval. The other part I didn't talk about the walk interval or the display when you see the walking person display. Generally, that's about four seconds, four to six seconds. That one is more variable. You have some time to add to that one. And the intent of that is really to get your attention and to get you started crossing. It's not in community. You have to walk before the countdown starts. But that's really the opportunity of, hey, walk lights on. Using another crosswalk now is what that's intended to do. All of our crosswalks, I'm not aware of any that we haven't changed out for the countdown. So everyone counting through the signal should be the countdown. If you know of any that aren't, I think there's three places involved. We have a couple of places where some different operations and how those work. Primarily kind of the downtown main area where parallel main, you'll see that the walk will come on parallel main without clicking the button. You do that where you can. So say that again. That did do it. So if you're crossing the avenues parallel main, third to Longs Peak Avenue, and you just want to cross, the walk will come on with the journey through Main Street. So you don't necessarily have to push a button. If you want to cross Main Street, you do have to push a button for that. We can talk about whether that's the best operation or not, but really what that does is it just defaults back to Main Street green, right? We've got 30,000 cars a day on Main Street. We have several hundred on the avenues. So just that balance of meeting the demand, if you have a pet recall across Main Street, it's going to cycle and keep cycling, whether there's a pet there or not. So that's really why we do that. There are some locations where we are able to do what we call a pedestrian pet-protect feature. And it's primarily with left turn. So I think the first one we drive is Airport and Pipe following the Southwest part of town over the left turn. We have a typical red yellow-green arrow for the left turn or a flush yellow arrow as well. If the pet button is pushed, that left turn will be protected only. So we'll get a green arrow and a red arrow, but there's no yellow arrow or a yellow flush yellow arrow. And that's one place where you can see some conflicts. Sometimes when you have the left turn, the permissive left, the pedestrian's coming into the city. So where we have left turn is that maybe an option, but there's some where it can be done at a couple of different intersections. I'll be quiet now and if there's any back questions, happy to be with us. I just have a quick question for the group. Can we open the windows? Sure. I know. It's a little scary. It's stuffy in here. Yeah, it's stuffy. See, Sue and I have the same roots as that. A lot of work is going into these calculations. However, especially on Main Street and down the town, we have multiple senior housing facilities and we have many seniors that are using those crosswalks including myself. And I don't have major disability, but I cannot get across the crosswalk in the amount of time that is designated to me that four seconds or whatever it is. And inevitably, I have cars passing before I'm across the road. Now, I understand that cars have priority, but I think that at certain crossings, especially those that are very close to or used a lot by senior citizens that I'd like to see the same consider some change in that crossing time because my kids could get across there, no problem, but I do have trouble doing that. I've also seen mothers with kids on both sides have difficulty with crossing the crosswalk. And I'd love to assume that all of these drivers in the city would just be watching for us, but I need to share with you not my experience. So if I could, a couple of questions. Any intersections in particular that you see are used the most. The one on 3rd Main, crossing 3rd Main, the one on 4th and Main, and the senior housing is at 6th, right? And the one, it's almost like between 6th and 3rd. You know, that's a major issue. It's also the busiest part of downtown. And, you know, not many of us are down on Kent Frat and Hover trying to get across the street, but in the main part of town, that's a different story. So I'd just like to think that somebody might kind of take a look at that. I'll volunteer to go walk in and crosswalk you, what exactly, you know. And like I said, I don't particularly have a disability, but I struggle, I see people struggle. I see mothers move mums with little things. Just barely making it across. The other, the other places, Tyler, just to build on Jimmy's point about senior housing, I think are around 17th and Hover, 18th and Hover, folks coming into the Stateway and the Walgreens and whatnot. If you're looking at where older adult communities are and major streets, so I consider Hover pretty significant. And then on North Main, near Taco Bell, what's the, is that 22nd maybe? 21st or 22nd. If you're looking at it from where are there senior housing and people are crossing four, five lanes, sometimes six depending on if there's a rider or a left turn. So those could be similar. They don't have the volume of pedestrians that downtown does by any means, but I certainly, I drive North on Main quite a bit. And there are a lot of people, and we've talked about this relative to the bus piece, people cross mid block up there, which is very scary, but those would be the other two where there's a lot of senior housing and major streets. Tyler, I guess a related question about what the code in the book actually means here. So, for example, if I'm going to build this parking building, the code says I have to have at least this many parking places per unit. So a code can be a minimum or a code can be a maximum. It almost never is an absolute. This code isn't an absolute either, right? It's a minimum. So in other words, there's nothing actually preventing us except the consequences to traffic flow from making it longer. That's two questions. Do you know if it's still illegal for crossover crosswalks when a pedestrian is on it? So I believe the state law says when a pedestrian is crossing the crosswalk within the portion of the roadway that could be involved in it. So if your northbound main street and pedestrian is crossing the two northbound lanes in the three-step mid block section, you're free to continue through. It's not legal, obviously, to go on someone over. If they're in front of you with what the state law says, like you can drive after they've passed. And you don't have to yield to one of the things that there was even when standing on the side waiting across. There may be an expectation that vehicles shall yield. They're not obligated to do for the current state law. Okay. That's interesting. Oh, did you have a question? Yeah, so the other question I have is that I know of some of the people who you saw three years ago. I went to a city meeting where they invited the public to talk about, you know, different traffic for walking and riding like humans do. And we have down in, you know, specifically a section of main street you have those crosswalks where, you know, in Boulder they have the flashing yellow lights with the traffic, alert traffic, and they talk about you know, in terms of just having a sign there or putting the flash on there. So a couple things. One, a couple of Martin's I saw some of this last night with the main street corridor. Main street corridor was a planning effort that the police kind of ended twenty-nights and identified a lot of those needs or how do we address those comments on the main street? I think the first phase it's the letter request for design which was kind of the most part that you mentioned earlier talking about some mid-walk time. It was part of working the way south. Interesting. Interestingly enough, when we look at our grid layout on the main street and if we follow that grid policy if we follow grid rules on the blocks and put it into the nearest signal as crossing but that's something we'll be taking another look at as we do the main street corridor plan. What's the timeline on that? I didn't hear about it. It was too quick to have time-wise. It's in the budget. It's in the budget. Like I said, the first phase in the budget request was for the north main part primarily in 1966 and then working south in the corridor in subsequent years. I think the downtown area has some additional focused work on it and I don't remember what you said but there's bigger plans for that. On the crosswalk we were talking about is that a city or a state to the main street? Yes, that crosswalk on the main street. The main street is the state facility and we do maintain and do a lot of the courtyard on that facility adding something like a flasher who doesn't even see how the approval level can do it but we tend to have it in the city. So they would prove it that the city would pay for it? Because I want to, yes. I just want to say there's seven comments which cause a given priority. So I want to comment on that and I have a question. We talked about sustainability and it's really kind of strange to me that the cause a given the priority when we're saying we want to have a sustainable place to live. So I just want to make that comment but I don't know what you know this but on yesterday I was riding my bicycle through the library so what is that? Is that four? So my understanding of maybe the city that has ridden my bike the big circle in the middle there once a bike passes that the light should change for me as the bike goes. But of course I've ridden a couple of times just to see and it doesn't change. I'm wondering if those bike-activated circles are working or whether they work at one time and don't work anymore. So a great question on Main Street. Everything on Main Street didn't burn off of a thermal camera. So it loops in the pavement and in Main Street they're not doing anything. It's a camera that will see up on the mask arm that has a signature rather than video image so the loops can be misleading if they're on the screen. But when you have the bike zones programmed and generally they're pretty good at picking up it's a temperature that's like a thermal camera so if they're really good at detecting people a compliment will work and it's really good to be able to communicate that's really old signals on there. Some are older signals in town and a lot of those are using loops and yes I'd love to upgrade those it's about $25,000 an intersection to add for detection. We're also working on a project on Coffman Street so we got $7.5 million from Dr. Todd to rebuild Coffman Street so rather than doing it now we're going to try and use some of the grand dollars for all this process. I just with the lights flashing on the lights as a driver I have missed seeing people in a crosswalk before but when the lights come on that really makes a difference for me because I know to stop you know somebody's there whether I'm seeing them or not so I think it's a wonderful safety. And until about last year we didn't have any end down in the last year we couldn't have an ample location to go on. Not me and Harlow, but I think that there's little men we've done 9th and this was the last year that trail crossing 9th and but not but at school our first handful that we've done and that's and really that's what they do they don't change the laws that helps draw some attention that someone might be there. Marcia, this is Kyla this is strictly in the A-forces observation but I do sit on the DBA board and hear what all the merchants are saying what all the customers are saying and my conclusion from those hearings is that making the walk lights longer in the downtown area would actually have would improve the sustainability and have a traffic calming effect and lower congestion because people hate to cross main so much that they will circle around until they can park on the side of the street they care about and so if people were not afraid to cross the street there would end up being less traffic I think it's a good job it's often not this is it's zero there you go I want to be in the moment where this man is involved with the 20 years and we have the flashing lights for maybe 10 it's not the people in the car us of the problem although people from out of town I have no idea where these lights are it's the people crossing the street and I'm afraid to say a lot of them involved in the bicycles I can go there would be more people almost clear than in the regular cross I you can tell I hate them the passion I wish there was something easier I take Janine's point that she is careful that she's a responsible and more driver it's more that pedestrians and drivers from out of town and I gave directions to people visiting so if you see these flashing lights slow down and stop so that's great feedback and it's definitely not presented in this way a lot of the reason why we don't just throw it in every way they definitely don't solve all of the problems they can be useful but they definitely are not a the whole physics you push the button and stop doesn't make the car stop any faster and if you don't give the driver a chance I think the average person is the reason we're going to really try to follow the rules but I don't think anyone sets out intending to get into a crash or something I don't know do you know if you ask people if they want a passenger on the car and you say to somebody hi man do you want the speed record it's good people won't know there's so much science if you have science it's a pedestrian crossing be careful is that anything? yes it just goes slow down but yellow actually doesn't make you stop running so slow down I never make a left and yellow flash it has to be totally clear from this I'm used to left turning it alerts you it alerts you that somebody has triggered you somebody has walked into that crosswalk so you're either through or decided not to go but it makes you look and that's the difference the problem is that and I'm guilty of this is that when I used to live there either riding the bike you hop the button and you go out because they assume that the cars are going to stop and that's not the truth it's just similar and I think that like she would say it's almost like how do we solve that problem you know in my mind all of a sudden they're open so people can actually cross that's a little bit I don't understand people will probably be very upset they'll just walk around but I think that it is sort of one of those deal words like you want to have as a motorist you want to have the signal that says caution you watch out and then you want to do as a pedestrian that you're safe but yet as a pedestrian you have to also just save walking so it's a hard either way if you have them or you don't I know that because I'm on the inside all the time my office is there I'm three blocks away from there I'm constantly going that way and I'll go to I won't go to the light I'll actually go to the wheel and I'll wait and I'll step and I'll wait how many cars will stop for me one car will stop the second lane may not so I wait until that car stops and then I go out in the middle until the next lane decides if they're going to stop for me but that's just because I'm a user I guess I'm user friendly whereas most people might want to just drive across and expect everybody to stop for them they're tools not rules yeah so I'm wondering I agree with you but I'm wondering whether it could be time for just at night because I think at night so could the flashing lights go on because someone driving at night that always gets their attention flashing signs because during the day most people have the sight or the visibility to say oh there's like 15 cars coming but at night the car may not see the pedestrian so that would be interesting to just to try with at night rather than during the day so it's also because of the pedestrian if a car is coming at me I have the worst vision at night and I can't tell me how I'm also wondering whether I don't know whether they can do this and I'm not really sure and I'm not a fan of these all because I have a run how to use them of roundabouts to slow traffic yeah so the first time I came to Volvo I would stop by a public office the moment I was driving because I didn't understand I was being told to make a left so I just made a left but there was a roundabout and all of a sudden I called me over and said but it was Sunday morning people at church I guess and said to me do you know how to go through roundabouts and now I don't you gotta be honest and you know throwing a phone roundabouts can slow traffic so I don't know if that's something um the city has considered or whether they I can't see where it's expensive because it's just about just in there um I'm sorry I'm still stuck on $25,000 just a great deal I'm sorry so so I'll sing phrases for roundabouts I think they're great tools they don't have to worry about signal timing they've got power back at power um they can take about a large footprint so right away can generally be your biggest box where does it go in terms of safety so there's opportunities for head-on crashes let's turn the wrong way it's pretty much eliminated you don't get a new writing over your primary crash should be on the site's wife what about some pedestrians what around about the safety for pedestrians like that's a great counterpoint to roundabouts so it signals generally you have a rather stop some sort of vehicle stopping turn on the red or maybe don't stop that's for the vehicle so roundabouts is one of the drawbacks comments on the car don't stop the difference is you're usually crossing the one lane or it's a big roundabout if you're generally crossing the two lanes so you're not crossing to the midwalk on main street the whole fight for it is you're bringing a sporty second car and the second lane doesn't see you when you stop and you get to be ready to cross the roundabout but it's not crossing four lanes at once it's kind of a two-part crossing crossing in one direction and in another direction so that'll be the counterpoint of head-z if you're roundabouts I have seen where you can add a flasher, hit some of those I think we've just got several who've set up that way with the long R and FB the rapid reference of last season so we probably have some roundabouts too as any intersection we looked at as a potential roundabout location it's got the market I hear this one was on the agenda last night but 17th and kind life is one where because of the kind of traffic where there's a lot of traffic on 17th turns to the north where the heavy pattern is east to south and north to west will probably never meet the traffic to the north so roundabout there would actually look really well with the patterns that we see there both for safety and potential speed mitigation and people that want to go over the signal that would be a great solution for that 17th and airport on the other side is number one that's the same as well again that would be a little higher than that in the section but something that's in our focus that we definitely evaluate when we look at intersections it doesn't have a lot of best use right? so 17th and airport there is quite a bit more than the school right there and there actually is quite a bit of use of the late back and forth there is quite a bit of impact on the roundabout the roundabout I go through the most is the one at 21st and median crossing or whatever and on my way to spring creek and fall river housing and the part that the reason I brought up the pedestrian is because there is that park right there on the south side and there is always people with dogs and walkers and bicyclists and right now there is no street to the south that roundabout is just a free freeway but I worry about if they add that another arm off of it what that happens but that's been a little nerve-wracking for me it's challenging also for both the driver and the pedestrian because again especially with this it's hard to know where people are going in that part in that roundabout you don't know if they're turning you don't know if their coordinates are right and people don't always use their signals in the roundabout so you're kind of stuck on the side of the road trying to dodge the roundabout and you don't know when people are going to come in and when they're not because they don't always yield so yeah it's challenging I would just say for people who maybe don't get out in this direction there's a good example of roundabout is in the extension of Martin Street from 119 all the way down to Quebec there's a whole string of beads of roundabouts there and I lived very close to there so in the past two or three years how long has that been there people have gotten really much better at using those roundabouts so now they do what they're supposed to do and people slow down a little bit but nobody's ever backed up there I would also observe that maybe the crossings the natural crossings are not at the roundabout in terms of design because there's a real light at 119 even though there's also a roundabout on both ends of that and so you rarely encounter a pedestrian in the roundabout and it really has helped a lot there the intersection that you have worked on for four months to go from the west side of the airport to the east side called Laid traffic on Nelson that turns south they seem to think that on the red light they have priority to turn right no matter that there's pedestrians that have the signal that now you can cross airport and walk defensively because I've almost gotten run over there don't try to get like that airport in Nelson if you're getting killed most bikers tend to stop but the biker will be killed by the cause even though they have a higher weight pedestrian they take their lights in their hand we'll take a look at that in terms of see if there's an additional side and I live right across the street people's responding to clean accidents up there but as Trudy says probably not enough people have gotten killed or... it's really fast some of the work we've done we did get the highway safety something fucking program I don't know if you've had it done on top of my head but it was the federal crash reduction program we did get some funding for changing signals of that the overall $1,000 that we want the intersection of the area doesn't seem involved changing the signals of that somehow drivers know pedestrians have the right of way you can't take the right on red one lady goes I'm like and then coming down airport it's going 50 to 60 miles an hour they get to the light and it's like stop and so they're in the crosswalk I felt like walking over their foot and so I mentioned kind of circling back earlier we have the left turn it gives you a red arrow with the walk button's push we've got a test cabinet set up on doing that for some right turns it's in the intersection so one that comes up pretty early is Ken Bratt and Nelson for that westbound right turn and you've got a trail on the other side so that's probably about the first place you'll see that one once we get it working probably one of the corners first Tyler we right where do you go from here with this kind of feedback so I mean I really appreciate you coming thank you and I didn't give Tyler a whole lot because like honestly I knew it was downtown but I couldn't remember the intersection to mean that's spoken to it was coming in a little bit blind so thank you for for doing that I just said it's downtown but when you have an opportunity to get feedback like this so what's your next where do you go with this so I think the first thing I heard a few I heard a few specifics I've taken some notes on the specifics I've taken a look and see if there's adjustments we can do with that I think one of my goals is to write some more information and so you're just going to know there's other questions that come up and kind of really an understanding of overall how we look at things a little bit and then just visit the questions you're calling Tyler maybe it's time for a new higher profile outreach campaign I don't remember who it was but I heard some of the administrative stakeholders have priority they normally do I've heard that so yeah and they never do you know we're I have my I must have said this 15 times you know I don't know whether it's harder in Longmont to kill a prairie dog or a parking place but you're going to have a struggle in either case and you know I mean people people are in a little mode of defending the roads when you know urban policy says well maybe we shouldn't so much defend those roads you know they're not good for the environment and maybe some education up to be involved I appreciate that and I picked up on that too I heard a lot that cars have priority and I don't think that's necessarily the case I can tell you Tyler's been really great I have been driving to the various like J properties there are things I've noticed and I've emailed them and you check out this section it's a little wonky or this one might be the stop sign or based on my own experience at that place and I think Tyler has gone out 21st by Aspen Meadows there was some real challenging seeing because people were parking right up to the street so you to make a turn you had a pinchy is what I call it out there to do that and I think that is that's where we as regular users of the streets of Longmont I mean to expect Tyler to be familiar with every single thing and traffic patterns change over time so I appreciate being able to sort of say hey could you go check this out and see if there's anything usually safety wise right you want to improve somebody's safety and I appreciate that I wonder if there's at some point you know how the city will have surveys that you can take online I wonder if that's something that would be useful for you know because traffic pedestrian and bike traffic it all changes and we're in a very small group so most of us are talking about what are our normal patterns what we see right we're not a large community so and that's exactly what's happened for me in the last year I've spent more time coming and going from here to the senior housing site and so my awareness is off because of repetition and so I think I appreciate being able to just shoot an email and say can you check this out and I do appreciate all the feedback because as much as I'd like to I don't get out to the time so the community because of the ones that live there so I appreciate any communities and thank you well you're here for Coil Road this is where you have a crosswalk at the wax center and we have the speed flasher and it's a visible difference maybe it wasn't one but oh it's you know the neighborhood around me just feels so much better about the whole thing yes and if you're ever feeling down just go to Boulder and you know honestly I go there for soccer three times a week and all I can think about is helping to get home or you know in Phoenix I used to have businesses in Phoenix and it was signs that say if you were the pedestrian huge signs cars have right of way and I would try and I would like stand there for what's felt like an enormous amount of time in the hot sun until I could get to the building I was supposed to be in so Phoenix is so weird it is weird I frequent a nearby town that has put up crosswalk like what four signs you know in the middle of the road is this crosswalk but there are no crosswalks painted on the street I don't quite know I don't know so it's very curious to me I think why you would do that without actually painting that asphalt it could be a little it could be a couple of tabs to do that come on it was just an interesting approach to watch pedestrians I mean you know it's just like a sign in the middle and I'm wondering how many cars have hit the signs because they're just seriously like what we put out at four I mean they're just kind of there and I don't know if they've been successful or not but it was like bizarre to have a crosswalk stated but no crosswalk painted there's a chance that that was not necessarily an improved installation it should be I've actually seen that before I love the concrete planters that Prestigy put in the middle of their some of their intersections that this you know it's not what the best of intentions but unfortunately it would be a less safe so they could okay I'm just saying Fritz is putting in a whole series around the balance to go for the traffic from the highway going to Breckinwood because it gets so bad for them and so it would be really interesting to see they just installed I think one or two they're not completely done but we were out there this last week and recently you know that area a lot so it would be interesting to see how it actually functions and what I thought even if it's just you know traffic may not the grid block is the worst when these things walk up you need to make sure you have capacity and that's also where even near rail crossing if you give them close to your rail road 20-minute long train you're going to it's going to work up that roundabout and you're not going to have to wake it up and they're slipping the lunar moon correctly but I've used this phrase a couple times if you've ever watched Johnny Depp in Pirates of the Caribbean where he talks about the pirate code and he's like it's guideline too just guide and that's what I kind of heard today is the manual on uniform traffic control type devices is a good guideline there are plenty of shells I like that we appreciate the thank you thanks for we're glad you're paying attention make one more lookable for cars and people I guess happy to know alright you're all good I'm going to people that didn't think they would be in the picture after all I have phonogenic so you don't want me to do that no I don't sorry sorry thanks thank you moving on to the peer update I do not have an update so keep it on the agenda I will rise to the top of the pile position of the but position update I'm very excited to say that we are doing the interviews today and yesterday for the Longmont Housing Authority resource specialist we are very excited we have 68 applicants David from the board was unable to be a part of the interviews as intended as well as one of the residents was unable to attend the interviews so I'm sorry that didn't work out we had another older adult retiree who did sit in on the interviews so I was glad to have her do that we can't the candidates look great so I'm very excited to get that person on board and that person will be a part just as a reminder a part of the senior services resource team and I will be managing that position I'm very excited to get that person on board and just kind of reconfigure so right now Randy has been helping out at the suites and I'm very excited to get that person on board and just kind of reconfigure so right now Randy has been helping out at the suites and Veronica and Veronica and Melissa have been at Hearthstone and Lodge so they will stop doing that work as they have been doing and we are actually talking about what relationships we can build with Mountain View Plaza Longspeak Residents St. Green Manor or Senior Residents that are not Long Mountain Housing Authority that perhaps we need to start having some stronger regular presence there so we're kind of so I asked who you had 60 applicants what did you read it down to so we we had 12 that we were working at interviewing and a couple people didn't return calls a couple people don't cancel so we're interviewing six but six solid ones I feel really, really good about this so that's great a couple other position updates is that just a sign of the times because of what happened with Megan's assistance what I am hearing is people are not getting the numbers of afternoons they used to get before COVID and that this cancellation those show things seem to be very popular people don't show up for the first day because they can get better offers up there remember the employees have leverage now in terms of their salaries and better than so and whether or not they should be with the person doing that so do you want me to give the so we did do the interviews for the Senior Recreation Coordinator the position Larry held and we have offered the job and it's been accepted and Christopher Troxel will be starting on September 20 I gotta tell ya he has been working in the gypsum the Eagle area at a camp for seriously ill children and they had to go remote, virtual programming and the creativity in his programs for these kids and families and how he was able to make connections kid to kid family to family as well as engaging activities in a virtual remote kind of way was really very special I think he will be a really great addition he hasn't done a lot of work with older adults but skills seem programming skills seem very very transferable very excited he is and actually he was looking for a position in this area because he wanted to move here to the Boulder County area so we're really excited to have him on board and excited to have him on our team September 20 and he'll hit the ground running because he needs to be working on December January so great programs the other position update is Griffin Gastel our afternoon evening custodian who's mostly been on low now during COVID he's been at other city facilities accepted position daytime position at the memorial building so we will be having that position open back up and we'll be hiring another afternoon evening custodian right now Martin's covering all places and Griffin's available to help so that's one and then not of course a done deal yet but city council got the 2022 budget last night proposed and within the budget is a full-time council position for senior services so working in conjunction with Brandi and supporting all of our work so if the timing is good for the first time ever we actually have a witness for council services right now and so between the referrals that we're getting from our co-sponder team and co- plus our work in the housing properties plus COVID there has been a real increase for support and so I don't know where council's going I don't want to put March on this spot but I was really thrilled that Harold had that position in the budget I don't think there's going to be very much questioning on those very social equity data analysis all those positions for the city services people are calling I had my hand up because I wanted to ask you just a passing thought when you talked about having a waitlist for counseling services have you thought or are resources for all people on that waitlist when they get checked on in the dial just to make sure there's still no need to say so Brandi stays on top of that so we'll make referrals to our partner agencies so senior reach at mental health partners mental health partners directly they have a geriatric well used to be a geriatric focused team private therapists and of course our volunteer counselors so we have some other resources and Brandi is working with that so it's been some individuals support is not the right fit and so then we look beyond that to some other resources so it's exciting and daunting trying to make all the pieces fit I will tell you that one United Hospital has moved out and so we do have some additional office space so that's probably a really good thing you know we have some home office home that's kind of where we are position wise so things are changing and building and I didn't mean custodian is that coming full time it is full time yes we made that full time this last year yes so we are hopeful that it will be easier to get some work for a full time and what what is the September position closes September and I will tell you I think that there is going to be a custodial position opening for the Long Line Housing Authority also and it will be a more online position so I encourage people to look at that Long Line Housing Authority website as well as the city website that's my position update any other old business new business so I have mentioned this place Matt Marcia has seen this before but I am just providing this as information Janine knows some of this there was a questions from the city council retreat around our relationship with the area agency on aging and this sort of gives a little bit of a history around that talks about the area agency on aging and talks about on the back side talks about some of the comparisons between Boulder County area agency on aging and Dr. Cog and so Dr. Cog is currently the area agency on aging for six metro counties we used to be the seven we separated as an area agency on aging from Dr. Cog over 20 years ago and so well County is a stand alone area agency on aging Larimer County is a stand alone and we are Boulder County is a stand alone most of the other counties in Colorado are multi-county there's the Pikes Peak region or the Tri-County I forget what Pueblo is Pueblo has got a region and so this sort of gives a perspective about where the area agency on aging and the city of Longmont senior services have intersected how we partner and your presence on that area agency on aging advisory committee is a held chair for one of you and he currently fills that chair and so I think this is something I am going to include in the manual for the board going forward it kind of sets the stage really appreciate Councilwoman Peck asking me specifically about some of these things making sure that Longmont is getting what's appropriate and right for services and you can see on the comparison side kind of what's happening so I think it's really important that the board and I will say this as I retire to my staff that we stand top of this relationship we really represents the Council I think in the city's interest in these federal and state dollars and it's important to understand that role is really important it's a funding role it's a service delivery role and so it's really important to have a good clear picture about what this is and going forward I guess my concern is I'm kind of helpless because I've been a part of it from the beginning and I want to make sure folks are comfortable understanding that there's money involved there's service delivery involved and there's prioritization so what Longmont needs might not be the same as what James Taylor Superior needs and we need to also have that voice around that and partners in that as well so we're recipients and we're partners both and advocacy is important and Jeanine I don't know if you want to say anything else or Marcia about this let me use their services well I think of them in my volunteer capacity not just being on the board but also working here that they're just an extension of I have somebody with a need where do I go to get those services and the amount of services available that happen very quickly for anybody who's working here is astounded really really astounded so it's an incredible connection working together relationship that I perceive so just looking at this that's what it is very important because there's so many things I thought and I realized I didn't really understand the agency relationship other agencies great good just Marcia getting back to the budget last night I mentioned there's a lot of money from the discretionary fund now the use that she proposed with more equity positions to work in the long run because it's never been a quarter of a million dollars before and even though that would fund two positions next year it wouldn't do anything after that but nevertheless it is there and you know once there is a footprint we tend to find the money to continue something that works so a thing could be you know we can have a trial of consulting positions if there are any gaps do look and we've used the friends of the senior center funds in that way Marcia to do some trial positions and trial pilots to see what gains and what really does serve a need so it's good to have those opportunities to sort of figure that out one of the things I think is really important going forward with the area agency on aging is funding from them or perhaps some of our work and we have been more of a partner equal I bring resources on behalf of the city they bring resources on behalf of the state and the feds and so there may be more opportunities in the future to look at funding but one of the things concerned for the area agency on aging is they do have funds for home care personal home care but the home care agencies are not hiring and they're not finding employees and that is really challenging when we're talking about trying to keep people housed as long as possible in their housing of choice and so I'm really interested in the media this is kind of like what can I do to help those two kind of transportation and home care find employees well you know personal care depending on your sprawling salary anybody thinks they're going to pay $12, $15, $18 an hour kind of out of their minds I don't I'm not sure whether people really understand the emotional and the physical toll on the person giving personal care starting at $25, $30 an hour minimally with benefits because I think that that's part of the issue is that in the United States thinking that personal care people should be paid $10, $11, $12 an hour or even $15, too little the personal toll on the person providing the care is great and they would find people if they opened a salary that is you know reasonable starting probably at $25 that was my question too have they adjusted their expectations about pay I think home care agencies are looking at different models for sure I think it was I said in Michigan the state legislator legislature decided to limit the amount that caregivers could be paid I mean just some like the $30, $40 an hour all the agencies are closing because they I just can't work out why are anybody and I know the state has also has in homes of four so there is funds through the friends of the senior center through your agency on aging for choices at home and some other programs you have to be able to hire I mean you have to be able to be hired for those programs so the I think though it's not unlike where we were with day care years ago when people thought you could get day care for $2 an hour or that kind of thing and I think in some ways there's this expectation around what what that services value is the other thing is that unless you have home care insurance or the financial resources Medicaid, Medicare hospice does not include personal care and there is a real gap in knowledge for people about understanding what that means I think people end up being very surprised by what do you mean Medicare doesn't pay for that what do you mean you can get some home and community-based services through Medicaid but you have to qualify for that that's really some of the work that our resource specialists are doing all the time is trying to help folks understand and some people who bought home care insurance products years and years ago have found out that they really aren't getting what they thought they bought so the products today are much better than they were initially but it's still a challenge so we continue to work with our AAA around the personal care to address some of the issues we're just talking about and others it's a we want folks to age in place well we gotta look at what those supports are and help them do that so anyways look it over if you have questions I'm happy to answer them I want to say to the board as this goes forward that place on the aging advisory community is huge and important and you help decide how those funds get the state and federal dollars get used when Ruth Waka was on the aging advisory council as a member of our staff she was really able to push forward some dollars for mental health that had not been for mental health before so voices matter so it's an opportunity I thought you had a question I'm sorry quite this long it's not why did we choose not to fight this great question so neither boner meals on wheels nor long months on wheels gets any of the federal and nutrition dollars because it's so paperwork intensive and it impacts really their flexibility in certain parts so Carla's been able throughout the entire pandemic serve 500 meals a day long lot meals on wheels actually delivers more meals than bolder meals on wheels which I'd be surprising to some of you was to me when we think about the population how bold they choose not to do it because of the paperwork and the instructions on the federal nutrition program how do they have just any local part of the products they get a lot of donations from some of those surplus products and interestingly enough I don't think Carla would mind me sharing you with this they have recently purchased their garage long lot meals on wheels so they can actually store buy and bulk and store things and really great way to reduce some of their costs so so donate to meals on wheels and actually the partnership the City of Longmont has agreed to with meals on wheels helps them with those costs because they are housed here at no charge they do not pay water and they have office and cook space here so I was not able to provide them storage on site that would allow them for that bulk purchase stuff so they have done this model and supporting another local long lot business which is great and so they've been able to sustain and grow without those federal dollars we were trying to get some of the one-time money that's coming in through the nutrition program to support our meal programs in a different way it doesn't require all the food so Carla and I are working with it and trying to get some of those dollars typically creatively and also just to be clear I don't know everyone knows if you shop I know for sure it's in supers you can go on your account and have them there's a dime for every dollar you spend or whatever the algorithm is so they get a little money that way I didn't know that I think everybody needs a share about that at Amazon Smiles we'll do the same thing give several folks you know the friends of the senior and you know every week they probably get a few dollars from super purchases I think first there is absolutely absolutely if you ever interested in knowing more about meals on wheels and how they operate and some of the things that we have to ask Carla to come I've asked her for a tour of the garage so pure this stuff where is the lounge so it's somewhere in Longmont there's a new business and I think they have sold all the garages they have I just love the model so if you're a woodshop or car fixable cars whatever it's an option for a little like that right off of the diagonal I forget what it's called it's like a workshop yeah there's different businesses that are in there that rent the space like a clean drive it's so creative and because I know folks who work in New York City who rent garages like folks outside the city and there's different ways people so I just love it my mother in law does that in business because he lives in downtown where he's signed in a project and so his business has just all went out of the road and he rents some place in New Jersey or something some place, yeah, not close to downtown yeah you mentioned having a car at home and I would like that because I've been delivering this for a couple of years now but I only see one side of it and I'd like to see where I fit in the whole picture that'd be great I'd like to bring pictures bring pictures any other new business I'm sorry, I will be has the I thought we'd come to reports let me jump the gun here okay, we're going to reports Rachel so so I think an important question we're so appreciative of the partnership we've had with One Might United Hospital for 20 plus years and so going forward our plan is to meet quarterly when you see how One Might United any healthcare organization and really start to plan in advance and really look at using the variety of healthcare partners both in education but also in services so it could be skin cancer screening it could be a class on heart health, I mean whatever that is so we did have a really great meeting with several folks from UC Health recently we're excited about that partnership strengthening we are also continuing to build the Lunch and Learn programs through the Silver Sneakers program UC Health is very interested in reconnecting with us around their stepping on fall prevention program so I think you'll see things happening differently but hopefully not less as we move that forward really appreciate that One Might United as they offered us things that they were not in need of and so it was a really great kind of change in our relationship and I appreciate One Might United all they've done for all these years so looking forward and moving forward in a different way with our health programs we are still planning on opening the lunchroom on Tuesday we understand that Boulder County Public Health will be holding a meeting tomorrow there could be some changes kind we'll see what those look like and how we adapt or employ those here in terms of the lunchroom we are looking at just two people from TAYLA so we believe for a while we're not going to go full blown many groups here are asking can we start doing refreshments and coffee again so right now our refreshments are sealed so single serving sealed no potluck kinds of sharing going on but we are planning on bringing back coffee pots so folks fill your glass and mine so we'll look at the coffee and tea can you use the outside also like you're saying two people per table isn't there a door or an entrance or something so folks can actually either eat in the dining room or grab and go and they can go on the porch they can come in here, they can go outside there's definitely options for that yes so I would say our fitness programs have gone game busters and we have signs now we have a limit of 34 because we've been actually hitting and exceeding the silver sneakers required threshold so the fitness classes are going good we did trip registration on Thursday we had about half the people we normally had we usually get about 120 and we had about 60 some show up one trip did fill I guess there is going to be a rapture piece at the botanical gardens and that was very very popular so we're trying to get more tickets and what not to that a friend of mine went to go to rapture and she was over there so we're hoping we can add scenes but so when people are signing up what that means after tomorrow I'm going to our IKEA are you going to get your list we got to trailer I wouldn't drive all the way there so I think this is an opportunity so it's the slow it's kind of like fits and starts we open and we pause and caution and we move and caution so how many large people have been very kind and thoughtful and appreciative most of the books we're only too glad that again there's something happening so that was really kind of a morale booster I think for all of us for the SAC and for our customers who were interested so that's going well clarifier for me the lunch room are you talking about the lunch room yes the lunch room here they serve a hot lunch from 11 to 12 many folks of course when we closed started getting it home to liver but there have been people asking to come back two for cable and we have what five tables in there you know how much really it's a sliding scale but the asking price is really 6 that's a lot of money that much it might have to though I mean as all of us are experiencing food possibly not but again we're trying to keep it tangible the question have you heard anything about culture boosters yeah great question so I reached out to Boulder County Public Health on Monday to see if we were going to do booster clinics the way we did the COVID shots and I'm waiting deeper back from Indira about that my understanding is there is some interest to do them on site at those four properties that we did a shot at but I also said if they're they've indicated older adults as being a priority for boosters that if they wanted to use the senior center for a community wide booster clinic for older adults we'd be interested in being a part of that conversation as well so we're kind of looking at it from both both sides at the independent housing sites and possibly here to increase interest in doing it so for most of the independent senior housing sites those boosters will be October, November at a time frame that would be many of us we have some signage in the senior center encouraging our community to get their boosters so one of the things that I think the signage piece and I brought this up with Boulder County Public Health is when you got your COVID shots you may remember that if you got them that they asked you had you had another vaccine and so with the push with whose shots right now and knowing that October, November many people will be doing their COVID boosters what is that relationship and should folks be thinking about getting the flu shots soon so I've asked for just some information any two weeks between them well that's what they said before and I'm curious what they're going to say with this so I've asked for something more official coming from Boulder County Public Health around that relationship between the flu shots and the booster which is to begin your flu shots together you can I got that which implies so hopefully that's all coming so booster clinics are definitely where we've got the inquiry out we're waiting for your back so at Longbuying Housing Authority Janine's been a part of a group we've been doing appreciative interviews with residents of all the properties we came together last week and kind of put all of our notes together and I think it's very interesting and lots of themes and so the next step will be going back out and meeting with all the residents to talk about what we've heard and ask them to do some prioritization so that work with the Housing Authority properties is going forward and I would say most everyone I interviewed came prepared and were ready and I asked them to just hold their notes until we concluded the interview because it is an interview it's not a survey it's a conversation and most people felt like all their things had gotten addressed in the appreciative conversations and that was good and I would say by and large the feeling about the city being involved and the interview process was all possible that people were just so glad to be asked to give their quotes so that's going well and we're continuing that forward and that's the Senior Services Manager City Council alright well last night was a study session and our introduction to the budget was pretty satisfactory you know at first glance I think we had a milestone or maybe not a milestone but at least the turning of the corner in terms of accountability on getting our affordable housing projects to process which has been a real concern for me that people are doing what we want in terms of what they're asking to build and then they can't get a building from it it doesn't necessarily look like a big accomplishment from last night but I do believe that there was a turning of the corner I already mentioned the good services and the equity roster in terms of new hires so that's an opportunity and I also would say that this budget shows more of a concrete commitment in terms of funding for climate change and I know several like us are really interested in that so I'm really hard to satisfy on that score so it's cause yeah well I'm doing this for your grandchildren I don't have any but yeah so I did nothing really earth-shattering but I think we if I could just put in here on the equity piece and to the board so Carmen Ramirez and several staff and Francie have really been working on this city equity team and a lot of education and is that something that would be of interest to you all is just to understand where the city is at with equity the position Marcia just referenced and what's happening invite Carmen we love Carmen yeah I think it's it's a totally an idea that Carmen's always been a leader and it's nice to see a gain a different kind of traction so I'm curious if you have interest I'm happy to ask Carmen yeah that would be I think an important thing there is a lot of tension on the equity side and on the climate change side because technocrats like me are saying must go faster and the equity advisors don't know the specs so and are really consensus oriented and it does take I mean it does create attention because I'm for example as out of it as anybody that really puts stuff behind but my approach to not leaving anybody behind is to get more lagging so as opposed to let's wait so that is I think one of the the other thing that I would like to mention is that this is the third day for our public safety chief and I had a conversation with the council's guard on the way out last night and you know just how you feel and all that stuff and the guy was jumping up and down after three days he was just really excited and I think maybe all of us have felt like there's a lot of tension in our public safety organization through the long transition that they've been through and that this is a crummy time to be a cop you know I mean no matter how you feel about what's been going on if you put yourself in a position that they're in it's got to be crummy so I'm really that's another thing I really like and get a chance pardon me he's a pretty young guy and speaking of equity you know he was reticent I mean he was my top choice you know just on a checklist basis when we had our meet and greet but he didn't really stand out and I had my doubts the mini-candidate was real good you know and then I learned later that when Harold's had a team to his old city to find out the things about his record that he was making being reticent because he didn't want to out his old city but he had done amazing outreach to groups of color in each one individually each different subculture individually and and created a lot of gains in terms of mutual communications and stuff so after that hiring step after we all participated you know then they were much more certain about that hire than they were he was just not willing to talk about it to the general public unless he actually had a position was that a process of going back to a candidate's was that done more than one you know I don't know I think it was done with that was my assumption that they did it it's a great idea because because there is such an ethical constraint on people talking about themselves in that particular position the other good thing about it is that I think it was the only one what are you reading about? I'm just thinking about the public safety hiring process I think if the average individual understood the depths they go to in public safety a background financial they dig dig and so when they go back to a community for certain positions they're digging and digging and very very thorough and the time and investment in the hiring process is so huge that you hope people stick you know that's what I was smiling about their process is unlike any other it's just amazing and comforting to think about so but for me this the cap on this the chairing on the Sunday was that a beat cop was happy about it so I thought I'd share that thank you the name when we meet this coming Friday could you report on August? yeah it's always two days after this maybe I want to start out by saying I'm in the process of assisting a friend to a major medical event I need to take her her post-op visit on Friday and it part of it conflicts with the aerial imaging Zoom and so I'm asking if there's anyone here that would be interested in filling in for me it might give somebody a great opportunity to get a sense about what that's all about given that my time is coming to an end on the board and if anyone could do that it's 9 to 1030 and I can give them the access to the Zoom and they can just sign in and introduce themselves and say that they're there for me I will give you the agenda and it has the Zoom information on it if you want I'll also send you my email thank you so much I really appreciate that so for the meeting that was held on August 6 they proposed priorities for the I'm just going to say aerial imaging for 2122 and the focus is going to be to educate the community to advocate on policies and the legislature to identify gaps in services evaluate current programs and make recommendations for funding they are advocating heavily for the homestead exemption change the big issue is people can't afford to downsize like they want to and carry their homestead exemption with them that's the current legislative push that can be altered without having to take it to the people for a vote they're focusing on more affordable housing issue and big focus on aging in place and modifications we talked about the cost of housing and what a stress that is currently to our community transportation how limited the services is but we're having problems not so much finding the funding for say but finding the people again they're looking at maybe encouraging volunteer work in terms of transportation and also focusing on how limited it is in the amount of communities over housing and focusing also on the reality that many seniors are moving here to be closer to family and we really need to be preparing for that this group has discussed the increase in the population for a long time but they're also looking at that and looking at their programs and preparing for extending their programs there was a presentation given by capable and it's capital C-A-P-A-D always engaging in place organization that is offered through the Visiting Nurse Association and its focus is on as people's health declines and they have a decrease in their ADLs they want to focus on how they can be supported and the three areas that they look at are home maintenance caregivers big issue and limited financial resources so they use a tridisciplinary approach which is an occupational therapist an RN and a handy person that's a volunteer from either Habitat for Humanity or a brother's redevelopment and it's an individual focus a person has to not have any disabilities in terms of mental capability they have to be an active part of this evaluation the evaluation lasts about 45 minutes assessments are made and then they discuss what's needed what can be done and how they're going to go about doing it right now it is funded with a grant so encouraging people to make these appointments and getting these evaluations done and getting these services now where funds are available and there is a limit of like $4,500 that can be put into any individual person's needs what is that called again doing? capable so they can do incredible things like open up bathtubs so that people can have walk-in showers at not huge costs widening hallways and doors leveling their steps outside so they don't have big gaps in there in their steps so it goes a little bit beyond just caregiving in the traditional way that we take a look at it and again that's through it's capable through visiting nurse association colorado.com Medicare services they're looking at their specific Medicare services related to counseling and the SHIP program SHIP is the state assistance program they are looking at online classes and there is an organization infocode.org that helps people with Medicare appeals and they're again pushing they have many many volunteer programs that I wasn't available or I wasn't aware of at all and of course medical counseling and older so that was the purpose of that particular movement can I just add on to the Medicare piece so they older county was doing monthly Medicare basics classes here because they're getting about 30 people since they've gone online they think they're getting 80 plus because I'm a good counselor it's like going down busters I also have to say that because people are on Zoom because people who are going on to Medicare now or recently now they're much more computer literate so one of the things that's changed is because I did it during the pandemic when I got we go on usually Microsoft Teams with the person on the phone they are already in the websites they said look I just have to ask you when I be on the screen with them do I do this and I say yes and I think the most confusing part of the whole issue besides what to do is people don't want to take their social security so that's the point where they get confused do I have to take my social security and when you go on the website the government website is actually X-Point this thing on your screen that says Medicare only and that's where you're directing them because they don't want to take their social security that has really changed because more people are computer literate than ever before and I think the classes here really helped people navigate certain things and I would just say to Jeanine and to you Prudence because of your role what I am hearing from are staff that work with Spanish speaking seniors that they want in person they want in person one on one they want in person instruction by legally delivered in Spanish and so I've said it to the AAA director I've said it to several folks that it's not equity we just had a meeting the other day and one of the things we talked about because I was surprised that they didn't use the language line because the translation lines I use one for work because there's a large Spanish speaking population I said you don't use a language line like what do you do and they said there's one person Karen Herrera who speaks Spanish and to me that's that good enough is that you need to get the language line because there's also, believe it or not a growing population of people who speak Cantonese not Mandarin but usually the Mandarin speakers will speak English but the Cantonese are from different regions and they're foreign and I had to deal with the guy in Lafayette I said don't worry I'm from the Bay Area I can understand what he's saying even though he's speaking English the language line here yeah I'm not sure why they really don't want to use the language line it's really easy to use we were one of our staff was out and a person was Russian speaking while we were Russian and just had language line on their phone and was able to convey what needed to be conveyed yeah it's really it's very easy and they have rare languages like Tongan I try one let's remember that but I'm going to still push I agree push they need to but the in person is only is only one person who speaks Spanish but it's also the in person component which has that relationship right it's a different culture and that's what they need so we're going to keep saying it I heard there's a board vacancy if anybody is interested they're invited to check it out at the monthly meeting which is for Tuesday of every month at 3 o'clock at 4.30 what no adult yeah that would probably be good they are working on the leaves in the lobby trying to update so that if somebody's relative where they donated money and they appear that they can easily find it and catalog it so that's been a whole project that they've been working on and they have increased the limit for requesting money the approval used to be 500 in all the needs they've just doubled it $2,000 some of it is reimbursed some of it may not be so those were the main things from three last friends meetings if I could just tag on some of you may have been at the Eagle cover band last Friday night and we had Donna Elwood big band here in Roosevelt Park that the friends paid for we had about 90 people who signed up ahead of time but we had many more people who kind of just wanted through so it was we don't typically do four concerts because it's usually covered but Larry had planned this sort of as a COVID thing we can't do the concert inside let's do it outside anyways it was a beautiful night I was sharing with it I know it's going to happen but yeah when you plan five months ahead it's not always easy to synchronize calendars but the friends did pay for that which is really my head written it down Mark what we've done in the team yes they had helped me with county commissioners last evening Marta yeah but anyway she actually spoke at our meeting and a couple of things that she talked about with the vaccination that they're about 330,000 here in Boulder County and that they're at about 74.8% and they want to get it up to 80 but yes just like everywhere else they'll continue to work on those Marta I also need your help on you know anything about the American Rescue Plan Act yeah that's the big COVID and she talked about that and they're getting several million dollars and then the city is going to get some of their own money and what all of that could be used for she just talked about cold health department and I don't know what else well a big deal about that is there's a lot of money for people who are falling behind on their rent who are facing addiction now and so many people don't realize that the money is there but they're having a hard time doing it way especially since I suspect everybody here knows that people who are on the outs with their landlord because of nonpayment and stuff are really reluctant to face up to the situation but if they do they're going to get it all clear and so just please anywhere you can outreach but especially there aren't tell them to seek housing assistance over county health plan is the place to start see and also the landlords can get money also so part of that money the landlords can apply mortgage assistance and mortgage assistance I mean it's very very rich I think only 11 percent of until billions of dollars have been taxied by the renters or landlords the property owners the property owners it's really kind of amazing and just like in your Mississippi cost as the lowest application of rental assistance in the United States it's zero zero one dollar it's important to know that we need to do some outreach around that so I'll talk to myself but we don't know how much we're going to get here more than enough right I mean here a lot more still more than enough and actually I think we do know how much I don't have it on my head but but people just aren't applying and yeah it's a scary situation I also did some back of the envelope math based on the percentages in this county of people who are behind on their rent and despite the fact that the doomsayers are saying there's going to be this huge wave of evictions it looks like in Longmont maybe 150 people are vulnerable and we can deal with 150 people but I mean the money's there if they get evicted it becomes much harder because well not only that if they if they bring mediators with them which is free in Longmont and they get that money so that they don't owe their landlord then it doesn't go on their record as an eviction so they don't have that horrible hurdle to find getting their next place but the best solution even if you're annoyed with your landlord and your landlord is annoyed with you is say where you are and it's possible and throw it over what was that website? it's the Boulder County Helpline and it's a 1-800 number but it's the first thing you see the Boulder County Boulder Assistance are there any fear about being undocumented that is getting in the way of them applying for this assistance and if so there aren't no fears in terms of that being an issuer I think a lot of time that just gets in the way of so many Hispanic community people taking it in that's not a question that says it's not at all you need your address and something else if you pay the utility bill or if not a copy of the lease it's the fear of discovery right are there any changes to the public charge I think that was exempted by the first day I think has been axed out by executive order because that was just an executive order there's been a long federal law a long time certain things were made up of public charge like WIC did not yeah WIC did not Medicaid is not now also these other things I think the nutrition still stays yeah but I know Medicaid doesn't another thing I just wanted to talk a little bit about is that they said that they're doing some research on their you know their employees with human resources they're looking at gender equity people of color bilingual things like that probably some of this concerns also having people pretty much what was said that day but I oh no one other thing is that they are doing COVID-19 testing at 350 in the 11th avenue daily from 8 a.m. to 6 p.m. and again encouraging people especially now with what's going on to go in there and get tested if they have any you know any concerns and from what I understand they don't ask me having any symptoms or whatever I get they just test you and get you involved with them for a day and then just another thing I'll talk about is called this morning and he told me that Wanda Mendoza is retiring in this county and they have an open house on September 24th from 12 before at Townsend Park she was one of our board members I'm an employee and she is currently a volunteer with our BILUS DGT yeah so my understanding is the Boulder County Latino Coalition asked if they could continue to meet here and I believe it was conveyed to them that yes they can is that they said there was but there was no guarantee that they would have the room of that size oh of that size so that was the assembly block well I don't know they we're still I think at that point it was not totally clear we're going to be able to continue it would be great if they would so I mean it's available yeah I'll follow back up I think they were talking to Veronica but I know they'll be checking it out with you yeah Veronica did say the planning was that we could continue to meet but we wouldn't be able to be in the size of the room because we did quite a few that's great that's our problem okay we're welcome and I'm sorry but I have another commitment which I want to have Janine sustainability I know we're very limited in time and there's always lots to report with sustainability so I'm going to try to skip over some stuff just they have now got a air quality contract with Boulder Air for evaluation ongoing evaluation


The discovery of the structure of DNA is one of the greatest events in the history of science. This event not only gave momentum to many existing disciplines but it also gave birth to some new disciplines in the field of biological sciences. A number of scientists, they worked to elucidate the structure of DNA and but only few, the work of only few workers is mentionable and Erwin Shargov is one of those. Erwin Shargov with his colleagues, they provided the most important clue to the structure of DNA and the work of Shargov gave some conclusions and these conclusions are called Shargov rules. The first rule states that the base composition of DNA varies from one species to another. It means if we isolate DNA from one species, the base composition of DNA is this DNA is different from the DNA isolated from another species. What is base composition? Base composition means the particular sequence of the four nucleotides, the four types of different nucleotides they arrange in a particular sequence and this sequence is called the base composition. The second point states that the DNA isolated from different tissues of the same species have the same base composition. It means if the DNA is isolated from an organism, from the different parts of that organism, maybe from the skin, from the hair, from the nail or from some any other organ, the base composition of all these DNAs isolated from different parts of that organism are same. The third point, the third point is the base composition of DNA of a given species. Doesn't change with the organism's age, nutritional state or changing environment. It means it doesn't happen that the base composition is different when the organism is young and it is different when it is old. Similarly, if the organism is hungry or is starved, its base composition will be different. And thirdly, if the environment or weather is changing, base composition doesn't change. The fourth point is which is maybe the most important point and which gave a most important clue to Watson and Crick who finally described the structure of DNA. And this rule states that the number of adenosine in DNA is equal to the number of thymidine and similarly the number of guanosine residues in a DNA molecule is equal to the number of cytidine residues. That is A is always equal to T and G is always equal to C. It means that the sum of pureins equals to the sum of pyrimidines because you know A and G are pureins and T and C are pyrimidines. So, pureins are equal to pyrimidines in a DNA molecule.


Right guys here.  Was it NBA 98? I don't know either way I have played with him before and look the only thing that really comes to mind is a three-point shot.  I don't know if he had crossovers. I don't know what he did I don't know if he could dunk the ball all of them will be revealed be watching him We will be watching him until we are impressed, but prior to getting into the video We're going to have a wee bit of a blurb here number seven on the list Boston's had more than its fair share of Hall of Famer's roll through the old Boston Garden But nobody was as lethal a scorer or as clutch at the end of games like Larry legend So we couldn't just shoot a three, but he could also shoot it at the best of times a three-time champion Who won three consecutive NBPs in the mid 80s and Obviously made the NBA's 75th anniversary team bird knocked down daggers like it was nothing and loved ripping out the hearts of his rivals While talking while talking some of the most underrated trash. Oh, I like that One of the greatest what ifs in NBA history revolves around birds back That he infamously injured while paving his mother's driveway during the summer of 1985 If bird wasn't missed a DIY it's staggering to think what else he could have done since he was never quite the same after that and Horribly hobbled his final few years in the league.  Oh, no, there you go That just goes to show, you know, if you're on fucking 10 20 million a year Don't just pay someone pay someone to do it But it didn't stop him from averaging 24.3 points per game and 10 rebounds per game for his 13 seasons So he was a double double bird filled up a box score, but he was never strictly a numbers guy He was just a winner who made ridiculous passes had a knack for seeing everything unfold seconds before anyone else on the court And always made the key play that either sealed the deal or keyed a game defining run That's why even though he could barely get loose enough to play at the end of his final season Bird was one of the most celebrated members of the legendary dream team the mid 80s the dream team was in 1992 so we still played a definitive role within the dream team There was no way the greatest basketball squad ever assembled could leave off the greatest small forward The game had ever known at that point, so I'm gonna say that his play during the 91-92 season probably you know Wasn't wasn't the best he was he might have been you know nearing the end of his career, but he still I mean due to his due to his well His career his numbers he was still included in the team and he did play a definitive role There was no way the greatest basketball squad ever assembled could leave off the greatest small forward the game had even known at that point Bird's been supplanted by someone else on that mythical list But the heck from French lick is forever a legend The greatest small forward the game is ever known right, so who's the greatest small forward the game is ever known at this point I'm gonna say it's Kobe Either way guys, let's go to YouTube. Let's write in Larry bird highlights Take the first video off the list. Sorry Larry Getting ahead of myself here. Oh my god.  Sorry guys Larry bird I'm so excited.  Let's go 1993 the year after the 1992 Olympics He's about to retire I feel like I'm there.  Ah, you kidding me a pass under the legs No, I haven't seen that before I ain't seen that before I want to see a three-pointer But I really want to cut this off because that is extremely impressive, but Let's continue. I've never seen that before in my entire life Card Just drains them a drains them for fun and he can dunk. Oh, he's got a bit of a crossover. Oh better than up and under look at that I want to see a three-pointer for God's sake Everything's in the paint. I need While he broke ankles for fun back then didn't he ever look at him short short to net short short to No, oh through the legs again. Look guys. We haven't even seen a three-pointer, but I've seen enough I've seen more than enough and with that in mind I'll see in the next one the title is videos for a reason watching him until I'm impressed If you're not impressed Well, you're not human