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know do you remember the who's in it and stuff chris pine isn't it and tandy newton yeah it i think that was a brilliant film i watched that oh you recommended it and i actually watched it i think it was a really really good but then i started watching it it was kind of the two it's just the two of them really in the most part of it is no it's not there's much more to it now listen some of it's a bit moody and it's sharp and all that kind but it works really well uh there's flashbacks and so there's a couple of time zones going in stuff it i actually thought it was a really good film and it was only until the you know things began to unfold that the penny dropped with me oh wow because i really don't step away from a film often thinking that's a good film and it was it's all the knives on uh amazon when you used to review stuff uh watch it again listen someone says to any good movies on netflix this week and i've seen the top ten use an email address and sign up for a free month with amazon or disney plus you know fill your boots over easter yeah and uh apple as well sky and apple are giving a free three month trial as well and they because everybody should see coda it's very easy to answer amazon by the way so you know you don't have you sign up for your month and as there's email you'd say your your trials about text buyer and delete it or continue depending on it's not it's not it's not illegal it's literally what trials are for yeah but fill your boots over easter uh netflix i don't know they're after increasing the price now and i have to say i'm a little bit kind of they'd want to be thrown a few good things at it in the next while yeah but there's only a lot of stuff at it and they've padded it out with foreign language stuff which is grand but it's just a lot of stuff or reading a lot of stuff yeah yeah well then there's only so much that you want that you're going to want to watch just that obviously i know there's uh people are all over the world so there's people from all those languages living in of course yeah exactly which is great but i think it's it won't be mass appeal everywhere yeah yeah as in a natural thing a speaker yeah there's only so much you know what i mean you're not going to watch something like that every night of the week you kind of watch something good comes you'll do the run whatever you might do a movie may you be uh okay um right uh the dairy girls channel for a lot of uh anticipation of this are you a fan of the series generally speaking yes i to be honest i avoided it when the first series came out because i don't normally like irish comedy and i was kind of oh god this is going to be a little bit ott and you know that kind of and then i thought it was going to be a little bit like the uh mrs brown boy no the boy in betweeners in betweeners yeah so i thought it was going to be a combination of between the in-betweeners and mrs brown boy just only in betweeners i watched a couple episodes there the other day i think we've moved on to the point whereby even i it is very crude it's very i don't know if that's because we're aging well because i i i do i do you know what i mean ask you you need one of your boys to watch it and see what what they think because i think i'm always concerned is it that i'm aging that's making it you know what i mean but i remember watching her first time around and i thought now i'm thinking my word anyway sorry no it doesn't do and that's what i it doesn't do for me at all it never did but i was going with the dairy girls then so i kind of avoided and then there was so much talk about i said i got all right i'll sit down i better watch it and see what it's like and i have to say i just found it charming it's set in a lovely time like i was saying last week i really like the time period because it's very me is in it with 80s and that kind of thing you're very much in the kind of with the music and all that sort of stuff that goes around i like the way they've kind of handled the the troubles in it when certain incidents is that they bring into it it's really just on the tv like last night now on the episode they had mo molans first visit coming over and you can see the mothers all sitting around the tv i i always knew a woman was going to start this out type thing you know so they've just really integrated it as in it's it's like the background to their lives which shocking and all is all the stuff that happened over there for a lot of people it was the background to their you know they were still living you know sounds like a comedy version of reeling in the years crossed with google box no there's very little i know it's not like that at all description i know that one that was that's like a five second scene was i'd say i sat down and watched it only the first one is up it's going to be a weekly thing and it was hilarious is Liam Neeson though not losing a little bit of his credibility so we a bit like uh uh ed sheer and he'll turn up anywhere oh he's so good in this though yeah i mean cameos are always good he was brilliant in ted yeah i to be honest yeah it's only and i've liked him in so much stuff it just i can't be doing with the taken because i just want to smack the daughter in the back of the head and go for god's sake just stay at home and so it just had a noise view when they pick a trophy like that they just go the whole way like she's always getting into trouble yes but obviously they had to rewrite it to make new films but i do generally take your point you're not jumping in here and there he goes i've not seen it yet i'm doing it i'm doing it i'm one of them yeah it just was so funny the nun is back sister michael is back she's so droll the first episode is they're all waiting there's they're about to start their final year their a levels in school but they're waiting to get their gcsc results so they head to the the the side whether or not they might try and break into the school in order to get the results all the girls are equally as crazy as they were in the past it it's just uh i said leibnizan is in it and kevin mackalier is in it and he's coming to letter kenny uh if anybody is a big fan of his he's gonna actually be in on green on this month i think it is there may or may not be tickets left but uh it's just non-committal i don't know i don't know it was only just that he was on it i mean i was watching i was like oh i must remember i saw him on the brooch of green life and we know we know and this is know you well enough and at this stage if it came on and they'd missed it the spark had gone and it was crap we wouldn't say it oh yeah no they definitely have that and like this is the final series they're only going to be doing this third series and this is it completely finished and they started off on a brilliant note it was just so like i mean at one point the the girls are i don't know the girls are arrested and they're being interviewed by the ps and i and they're like how many oh we're all going to end up this is we're going to be like the barring ham six it's all happening now because they've they've been they reckon they've been falsely accused and next minute they're interviewing the guy from the ps and i how many catholic uh officers are there and the two guys look at each other and two three if you include the jewish guy you know the way it's just some really kind of funny stuff that goes on in it okay full marks it's very simple but i'm gonna put this down to wedding brain i see is it cake from netflix on the list now i mean i'm not why should i watch it so no it's not yeah but so this is like is it a telephone or is it a cake is it a microphone or is it a cake i have to say when i started i started watching this with my nephews these i started watching this with my nephews who are very young and i have to say that is where you really knock the crack is to sit much with your kids because it's very obviously there's no language there's no nothing there's nothing rude and what they're making in the cake but basically that's the basic thing is you get like hen party cakes then they get like no hen party cakes they get like uh six cakes one of the guys from s and l is the host he's the only kind of a bit part of it one of the guys from s and l is the host the six cakes comes out all these bakers have to decide which is they're standing back maybe about 20 30 feet away from it and they have to decide is it cake 20 or 30 feet yeah and they have to decide is it cake or is it real i am telling you it is shocking like i've seen these reels on on the social media whereby you know i don't know if they came before or after it but okay listen i'll try an episode michael what is this i'm trying to understand someone makes a cake right you have to guess it or it may not be a cake the question is is it a cake this is this you're making is this april first what's going on here i'm telling you i'm saying it's kind of range she's got wedding no no it's kind of addictive because like i said i sat down and watched it with my neck that's not a tv show i don't believe either of you we've done a few things like you know they've done the bacon engineers the bacon engineers and that kind of thing where they were making all different kind of boats and stuff and trying to make them float you can do you know any of those cakes there's loads of those kind of shows on on net we have reached the end of television i think it's the number one show on netflix it's number one in america that's a problem oh but if you watch it though we've run out of ideas even at the end i'm telling you even at the end right so then if you go through because what happens is is that two or three people have to pick is it a cake is it not a cake then they have to make something themselves and then there's three celebrities bit dodging out to call some of them celebrities but there's three people who maybe they're well known in america come out and then they decide in amongst with the baker they decide from the non-professional bakers is it a cake or is it not a cake and then if you don't feel i'm going to get through to that you win ten thousand dollars all right right and then actual ten thousand dollars okay because that's it exactly if you get through to that you win ten thousand dollars and then they bring around a thing which is like a bag of money no okay no and i have out of five times three times i've gotten it wrong right so it is so you keep a note are you using microsoft excel to track your watching of this you will totally have an excel spreadsheet by the end of this show right it's so good i'm like what am i going to do for my nephew's birthday now after this baking baking a suitcase i swear to god you should see them they do handbags one woman decided it was going to do a shoe like a runner and i was like oh god that's really hard laces and all it was unbelievable even had dug it out a bit so that when you looked at it with the camera angle it actually looked like it was the i feel like i didn't take my medication this morning and i'm i'm not i swear to god try it everybody should watch at least one of them it's so much fun and you will definitely find yourself sitting with your family should we watch one should we commit to watch one i'll commit to watch one i committed to watching the bridge just in a couple weeks ago i still haven't done it but i'm gonna do it it's different no but i said i would watch one just to scum about it on the radio just 25 minutes and i guarantee you watch one by the time you're at the end of it you and your family will be sitting around going it's definitely number five definitely number five at the moment i'm just trying to find things that capture attention long enough to change an api yeah okay it's got lots of bright colors and everything and lots of chatting because it's just turning into a wrestling match every time i don't have that issue with the two lads i'm sharing a house with but i'll suggest it and see what happens and the show not the changing the nappy that's what i suggest the show the show we are going to be drawing out the number for our competition now after this break stay right where you are it is the 15 000 effectively 15 000 euro massive holiday let's call my denvering concert with guests philomena begley ray linem and brendan shine at the millennium forum dairy on saturday april 23rd tickets at the theater box office that's mike denvering concert at the millennium forum with philomena begley ray linem and brendan shine on saturday april 23rd celebrate easter at your local cost cutter there's lions original 100 teabags only two euro 50 cent coca cola 24 250 mil cans only 10 euro pringles 165 gram range three for five euro and mother corner 130 gram six pack range only two euro 50 cent cost cutter proud to be local participating stores only stricter schemes may be needed on the new cap for more in this week's irish farmers 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to be crowning a winner very very shortly already we have a person who's going to be winging their way to turkey for two for a beautiful holiday we've got two lovely listeners each with a thousand euro already maybe spend who's to say that's completely up to them and very very shortly someone's going to be winning a ten thousand euro holiday voucher for as i said earlier on the trip of a lifetime somewhere or perhaps even maybe to go back and forwards from turkey or albafir or wherever they want to go and five thousand euro cash we've labeled it spending money could be a new bathroom whatever they want to do that that's it shawn's not going to call around and look for receipts as long as i don't have to do the fitting of the bathroom would be okay but try getting a tyler that's another story but anyway they're all so busy okay i shouldn't spend this money on something uh as sensible as a bathroom i'm just saying it's practical though i know but you have to go in there every day i know what this money is should be spent on something completely lula that's what i just take i like that's what i like about i mean like you mean like cakes that could be real objects seriously watch the trailer i defy anybody to watch the trailer and not watch the episode but yes 100 percent the cake cakes that look like uh foreign islands and stuff like that okay right and no because this is what it is you think about all the different places that you can go it's just so amazing i was actually looking at something on tv the other day like the galapagos and i was like this is the kind of tank money now that you could use to go to something like the galapagos you know one of those things that you've heard about you've read about it you've heard about it you've read about it you've seen it on tv and you're just like that would be amazing those people that are adventurous they might think to themselves i've always wanted to do that trek do you remember there was a crowd here from dirty gold that went up was it the Antarctic that they went to they were going up there like this is the kind of thing i think you should do with that kind of money is just go crazy yeah i think so and i think that's why i think that's why the voucher element of it is good because it kind of force us to sort of go right well what should we do or what could we do right okay so what's the format how are we going to do this then well we're going to do the draw we're going to do the draw now and then and shawn will go through all the different details with you then while we are hopefully going to get the person who wins it online brilliant so if you're listening now you can also watch the draw by the way go to our website highlandradio.com and you can watch it you just click the link watch the show live it's in it's in browser there or you can go on to our youtube page highland radio arlander on facebook highland radio and you can watch now as shawn rotates this item so if you're in the competition uh you probably know your numbers it's the same as a raffle really people will know the numbers because they're given the numbers yep people should have received them by email right so what we shall do is with our back facing me all right with our back facing me yep okay now dig deep dig deep and wait a second please what's the number the number is 0874 0874 okay if that is your ticket you are a winner take your seats again yeah i know that's a level ticket and i like it that somebody that was in must be in very early on right 0874 and that is really what we were talking about earlier on it just depends you know you could be early could be late could be in the middle everyone's got an equal chance of winning absolutely all right so we're going to get the guys uh to um put that number to the appropriate name we'll give them a call and see uh see if we can get them on air it'd be fantastic if we could but um it's not like other oh yeah so i don't insist on it but we want to share in your good news don't we yeah no absolutely and i know we want to thank our um partners yeah so the details of Atlantic travel so uh the the lucky winner of 0874 uh we'll go to Atlantic travel the the voucher will be sitting there and they can start to choose where where they go when they go and how often they go it's entirely up to themselves and avoid phone calls from family who will now be ringing them all over the bank this is really this is really insightful here because my idea of the holiday of a lifetime is i take as many as my family i can on the holiday of yours is like go away it's my time i want to go on that cruise in japan do you remember that cruise in japan that everybody got covid at the beginning that sounded like an oh they had an awesome holiday before they got sick that sounded amazing they went to like all over that east asia and that looked amazing i think if i if i want it right i would want um i'd want sort of two or three experiences from it do you know what i mean i think that's the way i'd go i don't want it all jammed into two weeks and do you know when you come off holiday in like five days later you forget you're ever away because it comes a distant memory yeah i'd want to have a series of things to look forward to so that would be my approach i'd be the exact same i have four holidays all in the sunshine i'm never good at being sensible i would end up blowing it totally you'd take your nephews and nieces you see you try no i'm not no i would normally take them if i was going to portugal or spain or something like that because particularly portugal is great for kids i would take all my nephews and nieces and somebody else to babysit them but i but i definitely the last one quickly but that's the important the kids of the lucky ones uh no but on this now if i was like i mean you know i love my family but two weeks stuck on a boat with them just that you know herein lies a netflix documentary like you know i mean that does not trouble on board exactly the names it writes itself um so no definitely but i would yeah that's where i would like to go is there's just so many places you'd like to go the world is so big i remember my aunt went to russia in the 80s and we were always so jealous we were like what an amazing time to go to russia that's what you want to do go places that you've just that was before that was kind of before the mcdonald's announcements and all that absolutely it was completely before and before they fully opened it up that allowed in um even non-national businesses as they would felt at the time it was when russia was the ussr and i was always like oh why would this she didn't bring any of us big meanie yeah okay well sure um okay that's kind of holiday you want so uh we are reaching out now to uh the winner hopefully they will be able to come on uh because it's such a wonderful thing to be able to share isn't it again thanks to everyone who took part and we'll get rid of that trombola would we because not get rid rid canula sorry i mean remove it from the studio that would really upset our pride and joy it's really heavy yeah it's very heavy radio okay i have to go home now and put all the num all the tickets back into numeric lorder okay we are going now to ticket number 0874 to manakoningum to jackie mcgloughlin jackie you have won a 10 000 euro holiday voucher and 5 000 euro spending money congratulations to you yes you are the winner your ticket was just drawn and you are going wherever you want to go brilliant stuff so when did you enter jackie huh when did you enter all good two weeks ago i entered the business competition okay and we've been asking throughout the whole of this what would you do with the the winning ticket so you've got a 10 000 euro holiday voucher so you can go wherever you like once a multiple times 5 000 euro in cash i've been pushing spending on a bathroom but uh i don't know what you're going to do with it where might you go what might you do jackie i know it's just putting you on the spot well i might go and see me some in canada oh wow he's been there since the lockdown and we haven't seen him well that has to happen yes fantastic now it's just in case i have a new dream yes you are going i can say jackie you are going to canada well done congratulations oh my god thank you wherever else i mean you're going to use up all the 10 000 in canada where else are you all about new york we have to go to new york wow i love it well you can go meet caroline karen i said she'd go to mayo you might bump into her down there if you've a few bob left oh my god i don't ask the question all the time but it's always one that interests me are you generally lucky jackie if you won in the past or is this your first big win this is my first big one okay well listen it sounds like it couldn't have happened to a nicer person and it's great uh it's great to hear the excitement in your voice you go into canada to see the family then you go into new york and wherever the you know what you like because you've got a 10 000 euro holiday voucher at your disposal and also just to make it clear you've won 5000 euro cash that is yours as well 5000 cash too oh my god all right well done jackie thank you so much and let me ask i mean it might not be uh just answer the right uh the the right answer what's your favorite radio station it's you it's high on radio of course oh thank you very much jackie it is listen come here oh my god thank you so much enjoy it well done to you okay thank you so much bye well done that's jackie mclaughlin rye manna conningham ticket number 0874 she's going to canada she's going to new york she's got 5000 euro to spend and wherever else she might want to go i love it i was thinking canada as well that was on mine last week yeah but i love the fact that she hasn't seen her son in ages i know it's going to be reunited through this whole process yeah that's beautiful i know because there's so many people in the last couple of years haven't been able to travel or and then financially it can be you know flights are getting dear and dear and that kind of thing so that's fantastic but because it's 10 grand you pick you go when the prices are cheaper you know what i mean because if it was flights that's the prize but because it's a holiday virtue you can pick and choose and go on certain dates and whenever it suits you and take him around take him to new york with him i think she's going to go to new york in christ christmas time i got that sense from her oh okay then that's where the 5000 might be left that's right well done jackie woman after me on her all right i mentioned once again shown because we can't do these type of things without our partnerships and working with local business and that's really what what it's all about is working with and supporting local businesses through sales or through promotions like this so maybe give them another quick mention there shown yeah so it's atlantic travel and they've been a great partner on the journey some way holidays were involved with the turkey holiday as well was which came from atlantic and the good thing about it is that we chose them because they're expertise in the marketplace if they want to go on holidays pick and choose they're here they're there to help them as well on the journey so it's it's been a whirlwind six weeks but it's been brilliant and i'm delighted for jackie i hope she enjoys our holidays and and and and maybe do up the bathroom if she's a couple of phone left no way i just get a little a little obsessions i don't know what it is is all right listen come here uh thanks yawn yeah stay right where you are fenula because we've got to drag a little bit more blood out of that stone because we're still talking entertainment michael's going to rejoin us in a couple of moments and again jackie mcgloughlin in rye manna conningham congratulations ticket number 0874 she is the winner we also had two winners of 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just trying to think what if i watched that was that exciting now well the cake thing had you were very excited i watched i'm telling you everybody wants a trailer of is it cake finula's been showing the trailer around in the break and it looks spectacular so upload big sky resin alien which one let's go and upload i think um amazon amazon show yeah this is the show that's in its second season uh there's three things of note about this from my point of view number one it's from greg daniels he's the guy who developed the office for american tv he was one of the guys behind parks and rec and he's the guy behind space force which i detested that don't detested that she liked it no i didn't watch episode three so he's the guy behind this half hour show on amazon which is in its second season number two um it is a show that is very similar to the good place which was also the guy the other guy who did parks and rec the good place was about the afterlife this show was about the afterlife but in greg daniels version it's about a digital afterlife this is set about uh 2033 it's the year it's set the world is very different five or six big corporations offer clients who have enough money a digital afterlife so when you die you're digitized and you get sent to a digital version of heaven which theoretically will run forever as long as they have power to keep the servers going they'll you'll always be there and so the show is a sci-fi show it's a science fiction show that has really gone into detail comedy yeah the company yeah it's a detailed show but it sounds like a really good idea if they did it as a drama yeah it's a comedy drama kind of is the way it works so it's very detailed and daniels has spent a lot of time putting together this world um and making it a credible world in terms of the practicalities of how to do this and why it would happen and it looks at the haves and have nots because only people with enough funding can do this so it's it's a commentary on a lot of what's happening in the world today and the third thing about health care as well yes it could be health care as much as anything else absolutely agree and the third thing about it is this is basically a rom-com coupled with a murder mystery the hero of the show is this guy played by robbie amell and i know him from he was a supporting actor on arrow for several seasons and he was the lead on a show years ago called the tomorrow people he's a very charming very handsome leading man and they send that up a lot in this show because his character is quite vain about his hair and his mouth looks and stuff like that it's his story and he is the one who is digitized even though he's only in his mid 20s and he is in the afterlife and the version of the afterlife that he's been uploaded into by his overbearing girlfriend and her family is it's perpetually a beautiful hotel in new england so it's perpetually autumn the leaves are beautiful there's mountains and your every need is catered to in this hotel etc and he has an angel who is a lady called norah who's just sitting in a call center in new york and she's the person he's dealing with and the show is the raw it's the romance that builds between the two of them as they get to know each other and it's obvious to us that he's not meant to be with the the girlfriend because she's terrible we love hating her she's obnoxious brilliantly played by this actress but we can see there's great chemistry between the other two and as the show goes on we realize that the hero of the show was murdered so norah so it's a murder mystery as she tries to figure out who killed him and why also we watched the two of them falling together coming together and the thing about it is and i'm up to episode seven of season one and there are two seasons so far if his girlfriend falls out with him she can stop paying the mill and he'll be deleted so it's quite a dark comedy because he's like he wants to be honest with his girlfriend but he's like he says it himself in episode seven episode seven was the best one actually so far if he if he breaks her heart she'd just turn him off and she says it herself she actually says about turning him off until she kind of lives her life a bit more than turns him back on in a few years she's a horrible woman again it's like it's kind of whilst it's in that particular world you could probably make comparisons in the real world of course yeah so yeah it's smart i would give it like a seven or an eight it is funny it's it's there's so much science fiction detail into it i wonder sometimes do they need as much because they really have gotten to the details of how this would work is it a comedy drama or drama comedy that's a great question comedy drama because the the underlying themes are very serious right okay and and you'll be amused by what happens drama comedy so it's primarily a drama oh i would say the second word is the primary thing we had this discussion before yeah we didn't get this really the first it's firstly a drama and then a comedy i know i would say it's a comedy drama meaning it's a drama but it's a certain type of drama there for a comedy drama as opposed to romantic drama i think you're talking okay honestly nonsense he may be grammatically correctly i'm using grammar now that he's using facts i totally agree with you but i don't know i might be you agree with greg but mic is right i didn't say you were correct so it's a type of drama but it's an amusing drama and i like it even though it's the guy from space force because i see him as the guy from the office more than anything else yeah it's a good show it's a good show and it's two seasons in and i'm only a seven episodes to season one but i do recommend it okay it's not hilarious i mean you're not laughing really out loud but you are so in a karaoke bar then right karaoke yeah say karaoke bar would you say it's the focus there and karaoke or it being a bar grammatically it's a type of bar so bar is the focus no no no no i never asked what type which is it primarily no i think it's i i do think grammatically is right think about it that was a terrible fall not that was a fall terrible yeah that's not what we were asking is a drama comedy drama as opposed it's descriptive oh wait six six to five thousand come on people yeah tell them i'm right tell greg i'm right the uh yeah is that the adverb before the verb is the terrible fall and then isn't it the people wonder why i left school at 14 i'm serious the pro now before the nine that's what it is okay right what seven or eight out of 10 we were so uplifted with the documentary daniel at 60 fantastic uh family that is the one that it must have been maybe reared recently it was a good show it was very good but it was out a little while ago i didn't see it on again some of the footage from our uh from from our radio station from this program as well uh on that um yeah there's actually and i was meant to say it as well i didn't have it on my list but there's a movie on in the cinema now which apparently is very bloody and violent so don't go if you don't like that but it was shot here in dunygol okay uh the northman is supposed to be the uh uh hamlet it's kind of done like in a hamlet interesting if you recognize dunygol in it you know yeah sometimes things are shot but there could be shot in a certain way to look somewhere yeah it's kind of like a new version of the original story of where shakespeare supposedly got the hamlet story from how much was star was actually filmed here though i mean how much of the film it was it was being serious and not being funny it was the it was the mark hamlet stuff wasn't it was that it was that was it i don't i didn't watch i thought it was both ends of the mark hamlet wasn't it wasn't it what it was it was mark hamlet on the island so that was maybe about all in all between the two movies it was probably about ended up being about 10 15 about 15 minutes and you can recognize the geography well skellig you can definitely recognize i didn't recognize as much when they did malon but maybe you did i don't know i didn't die there in fairness i knew that is less distinctive than skellig because skellig is an island yes you know you know what it yes exactly and where they were the where they were physically you knew you knew you know you could see it right someone was talking about they've watched all the top 10 movies on netflix maybe they haven't watched the bubble so we'll talk about your bubble the bubble on netflix oh it's not right Michael needs to do more this is put turkeys on his list yeah i well i put it on there because other people might like it i i was really looking forward to it because there's actually quite a stellar cast in it and uh jude apatow's wife who's god forgive me i can't think of her name i always just think of her as jude apatow's wife i saw the reviews for this were bad in it there's loads of different and there's lots of different second actor you know people who you'd have seen in lots of stuff character actors character actors yeah so but there is quite a few big names and it's very i really like the concept of it because it's very now in the sense of this was a crowd of people they they have a long running uh movie franchise uh one of the actresses left the franchise she's after doing a complete turkey of a movie so now they've decided she's now decided that maybe she wasn't too good for the franchise after all and she's uh more she's gonna go back and do one happens during covid so they're in total lockdown so like it starts off with them going to the hotel and they have to do their two weeks quarantine everybody on their own in their own hotel room and you can see them slowly going insane just being by themselves for two weeks and then they're out for two days and then it turns out that somebody who handed them a cup of coffee actually got covid so they're back in for two you know so it's very kind of stuff like that in it i wanted to see this it sounds like a good premise but the reviews but the reviews are one review try as they might nobody can get this clunker off the ground the film is burdened with two specific hollywood insider jokes that only those who have lived and worked in the entertainment industry would appreciate it another the bubble puts its own budget on full display throughout yet rarely makes that a target of its satire it's just so yeah i mean they're in this amazing sumptuous hotel like you don't need five star hotel that they're in they're making and then they're making um to make this movie and in the movie there's like guys walking around in leotards covered in tennis balls you're like okay you know so i but that's how they make the marvel move yeah the tennis balls or how the yeah that's how maybe michael is of a you know a higher level of entertainment than i am i like that being a dramatur i mean it's watchable but i would only really be given in about a five yeah that's not selling it stuff yeah it just didn't do well as a dramatur it'd be interesting to get your view on it well just if they said there's a lot of insider jokes maybe i just didn't get them you'd get the hollywood insider jokes i mean you watch enough stuff and you watch enough behind the scenes stuff i think you know you you get them like you just need to watch enough behind the scenes michael listen enjoy easter thank you very much you too and we'll see you next friday god willing oh well finula enjoy your uh east oh by the way my next friday is my birthday so i am we're totally gonna go i used to hide this i used to hide this kind of information about i'm too old next friday i will jump out of a cake for you greg and greg will sit there going now is that a cake will it be like will it be like uh uh under siege like that all good reference reference get the reference baywatch baywatch star in that bye bye everyone have a lovely weekend we'll chat


Okay, let's go, ready? Here we go. We're live in Silicon Valley for theCUBE here at SNW, the premier storage industry conference. 2000 pre-registrations, there's a lot of walk-ins. It's the authoritative show in storage. Obviously now it's infrastructure, it's cloud, it's everything. I'm John Furrier, my co-host Dave Vellante with a multiple appearance CUBE alumni. Greg Nunes, thank you for coming on. You're now with HP, VP of marketing. What's your official title at HP? Yeah, that works, VP of storage marketing, but you're in storage marketing at HP, the big acquisition. Welcome to theCUBE again. Thanks, yeah, it's great to be here, guys. So HP, lots happening these days. You guys aren't wasting any time, you're not resting investing over there, are you? No, no, there is no time for that. That's when I talked to you, you were like, ah, we're doing sales kickoffs, and we're going crazy, we're flying around the world, so how's that going? Yeah, good, yeah, so strictly speaking from the three-par integration, that was a big focus, just getting everybody up to speed on what we could do for HP's cloud strategy. And that is now fully in motion. We've got our sales guys out there capable of taking that one into our hands. I thought the corporate headquarters last week for a big industry conference there, new CEO showed up, and the M&A guy was there, and he was absolutely totally pumped about the integration of three-par. He said it went smooth, great, you guys hit the ground running, things are in motion, so you guys are about to unleash some things. Can you tell us anything? So in early March, you did some unleashing. So it was really three-par integration, you did some stuff with server and storage, like blade and storage integration, talk about that a little bit. Yeah, sure, so first of all, for everyone tuning in, three-par is HP's lead storage play for the cloud, for the private cloud, the public cloud, hybrid cloud. It is the storage platform. Now, as it relates to that, HP's strategy there, HP's offer is called cloud system, and cloud system really brings all the components to bear, the infrastructure, the orchestration, the portal, the service catalog, if you will. So of course it was important if three-par is that platform, that storage platform for cloud, getting that into that orchestration framework, we call cloud system matrix. And so we have been at it for 98 days, and I'm happy to report that a month ago, we announced the integration of three-par with cloud system matrix, and that is in effect what we're saying is, through matrix, you can not just manage, but provision three-par into your service catalog, your portal for your users to then draw from. The other thing that we got done was the integration of three-par with our iBrix scale-out NAS technology. And what that brings, the iBrix platform is a real multi-tenant approach. In fact, I would tell you, it is the only multi-tenant block-and-file platform in the marketplace, three-par with iBrix. And so that really allows us to kind of take for folks thinking about their own clouds, how to bring block-and-file together and serve that better. Can you clarify that, because wouldn't NetApp claim multi-tenant for their unified storage? So what's different? Yeah, so help us understand that. So multi-tenancy is three things at a high level. Multi-tenancy is scale on a shared platform. Scale, and so that's, I think, love the NetApp guys a lot, but I think we put a fair bit of distance between a dual-controller architecture, kind of where we're at with three-par, multiple-nodes scaling to- Cloud scale. Cloud scale, utility scale. Number two, security. We walk around this show with our phones and our laptops, everything equipped with a virtual private network. We wouldn't think of leaving home without it, but when it comes to your data, we've been slow to respond to our industry. And so what we've built into the platform is a virtual private array capability, which really allows you to administratively lock down your data in this shared infrastructure. The final element to multi-tenancy is not just storage HA, but a resilience so you can maintain the service levels you've committed to without even with a catastrophic failure that might occur. So you're able to keep people up and running, not just accessible to your data, but the business is up and running. And those attributes are all about multi-tenancy and that bringing that to our customers is all about utility. So that's nuanced, but it's important, right? And well, I mean, it's, I don't know why you- I mean, if people can say, well, I'm multi-tenant or I'm multi-tenant, they can maybe have one or two of these attributes. So marketing is way out in front of technologists here. I mean, people are talking multi-tenants. Well, we are at SNW. But be specific on that. What do you mean by the marketing as a head of the technology? You mean the rhetoric around the functionality? Yeah, so, well, is everybody here in, you know, doing cloud? Sure. Okay, is everybody here- 100%. Most people here sell in the same stuff they were selling 15 years ago. A lot of them are. A lot of them are in storage. Yeah, it's true. New brochures. Yeah, new brochures, new names. Marketing always gets to the party first, right? Technology's lags. Sometimes it never gets there, right? And so that's my point. When it comes to multi-tenancy, you can slap a label on it. Do you have the scale to play? Do you have the security? Do you bring that resilience you need to the architecture? Those are, that's a pretty simple question. That's not a new one, either. Okay, fair enough. So the proof points then would be, to me, in the cloud service provider space. Because those are the guys who are going to want this the most. So can you talk about some proof points there? Sure. I mean, first of all, seven of the global top 10 are running the three-part platform. Global top 10 cloud service providers. Cloud service providers are running the three-part platform for their utility offering, okay? So these are guys who've done the due diligence. They understand multi-tenancy. And they live and read it. They are dead without it, right? Remember storage networks, remember loud cloud, remember jam cracker. They got multi-tenancy by physically dedicated silos and infrastructure, broke the bank, right? They're gone, right? Because of that, the right infrastructure wasn't available in a production way back then, and it is now, right? So that's what we're bringing from a storage perspective. Okay, so you got seven out of 10, that's pretty good.  It's baseball, you're definitely in the hall of fame. Right on, right on. Where's the Red Sox? Ted Williams was the last one in bat 400, and that was, you know, 700. Okay, so that's good. Now, so John was hinting at some other big bang coming. What are you guys doing at the show? Is sort of, are you watching anything here? Is it more, is the big messaging here? Yeah, we are fundamentally talking about, you know, IT as a service and how that's changing strategically the roles of IT, how IT is becoming not just builders, but brokers of services into their organization and how they cope with that.  You know, what does that mean, how do I get there? So let's talk a little bit about HP, right? Sure, guys have been busy in the past year or so.  Prior to Dave coming on, he was sort of had the handcuffs on, right, for a while, he was running networking and servers. But since that time, it was an Ibrics acquisition, obviously the three-part acquisition, the whole, you know, that was a very high visibility. Vertica's now in the roster. Vertica's now in the mix, obviously you got a big data play. And some homegrown IP too in our application strategy, store once, so it's like a great architecture there. Total facelift for HP storage, you still got a pretty vast portfolio, which got a big install base, so you guess you have to have a big portfolio. But talk about that transformation and what it's like going from, you know, a little old three-par, public company, but small, relatively speaking, to big, huge wealth.  It's three-par able to bring that kind of ethos to HP. How are you doing that? What are you getting from HP? How's it all working? Yeah, so, God, where do I start? So the, first of all, HP storage is rich with great IP, like you mentioned. I mean, there's no shortage of conversation that one can have, and in fact, the way I describe the experience of going from three-par to HP is all the stuff that we never had, but so desperately coveted is here at HP with open arms. And so, great scale-out file system, right? Great deduplication technology architecture. A wonderful virtualization platform in the left-hand technology. So all of that there, the, I think, part of what we gotta get done is marketing guys, we have a portfolio aimed at optimizing folks' existing environment, getting them to virtualization in the cloud, and then helping folks through this hybrid kind of transformation is kind of getting that word out about all of what has changed with HP storage. It's, if you'd not looked at it for two years, totally different, right? Completely, yeah. Now, David Scott, I always love listening to him speak because he always starts with some tectonic shift or mega-trend, and he's very articulate. And it's the accent. So, I guess, Floor is the same way, right? I mean, just automatically get points, but talk a little bit about some of the big trends that you guys are seeing. David's now the general manager of the storage division, so you're sort of marching to the cadence of his vision, and, of course, Donatelli's convergence vision. Absolutely. But start with some of the things that you guys talked about at three-par, but now it's expanded with the scope with HP. What are some of those mega-trends? So, I think back to how these tectonic shifts, as David calls them, the move from a distributed or kind of traditional data center architecture to a virtualized data center. That tectonic shift kind of stands shoulder to shoulder with this move to call it IT as a service, delivery of IT as a utility service. And in fact, that's driving the move to a virtualized data center. That desire, right? Those two together fundamentally change the underlying requirements for the infrastructure, server storage network. It drives, think about an IT as a service model. You are dead if you cannot deliver swiftly, if you can't deliver speed. Great economics, the cloud is all about more for less. And so we talk about, hey, this agile infrastructure, what's that mean? Provision quickly handle the unpredictable workloads that are streaming in and do all that while you maintain service levels, agile infrastructure. And then to kind of drive those transformational economics, what do you have to do? Well, it's all about driving up utilization. It's not magic, get utilization from 10 or 15% to 80%, and then make it stupidly simple to manage from it. It's all about automation, or what we call autonomic management technology. Joe Tucci calls it autonomic too. Yeah, Joe may have lifted it. It happens to us all the time. People stealing our ideas and we feel compliment. Well, we put it out there. I take it as a compliment and you watch over the next 12 or 18 months autonomic, I bet you NetApp's going to use it next. Yeah, so we now have a gear inside the cube, so it is ours, because we are not creative governments. We have a copyright to this. How about the whole convergence thing, right? I mean, it's not just about storage or just about computer, just about networking. We were at the HPE analyst meeting last month and we heard a heavy dose of convergence. A lot of substance there, we've been, we heard Intel guys say it's the network bottleneck, not compute, it's about networking bottlenecks. Right, the Intel IT guy we had on the cube earlier today, they're big on convergence, right? IT's a service, consumerization of IT, we're going to call it. And so, for years, I mean, I remember when I was at IDC a decade ago and HPE would come in and say, oh, we're a server vendor and servers and storage and there's an affinity and it was sort of, just didn't have a lot of meat behind it, but it feels like it does now.  Seems like it's, because of virtualization, seems like it's finally here. Yeah, well, so think about, back to our IT as a service conversation, think about the, you know, it's the death for IT as a service. Death comes from complexity and, you know, inefficiency, right? IT as a service does not get off the ground with that. What drives that? Sprawl drives that. And look at the kind of growth people are seeing in their server virtualization environments in, with not just compute, but the storage side, the network side. Sprawl in general? Anything that would make network sprawl, server sprawl? All of it. All of it. I mean, start with a VM and try to do it without more storage capacity and pretty soon more network resource. And so the antidote to that complexity is data center convergence. Converge infrastructure for your server storage and networking gear, right? So, you know, if you can get the job done in one thing versus 30, doesn't that help you get there? And in fact, we had an announcement, March 1st, we introduced an exchange appliance with our partners over at Microsoft. And that did exactly that. That brought 30 SKUs, 30 components, and drove that into a single appliance that was faster to get up and running, cheaper to power and cool, and in one appliance, storage, server, network, and application, all in one, right? It's kind of interesting. We live in this, the IT business has really changed a lot the whole, you know, we're talking about convergence, but there's been a lot of consolidation as well. You get a very strong partnership with Microsoft who's invested, I think, a quarter of a billion dollars in this whole appliance initiative. HP and SAP are, you know, renowned. HP and Oracle used to be that way, and that sort of chilled out a little bit. And now, you guys just bought Vertica. So you see this really interesting co-opetition thing.  You know, what do you see there? How do you see that all going? More of the same, or does it just get more intense? Yeah, no, I think so. The customer data center is a mix of technologies. It's an ecosystem, right? And for us to get the job done for our customers is to, you know, partner where we need to. And in fact, I'll give you a great example. One of the ways we talk to people about how they get to kind of their private cloud is, you know, they should be asking us, give me the template for me to get my Microsoft implementation for SQL. Done is a cloud service, right?  We've done this before. Yeah, exactly, and it's a methodology. It's repeatable, we call them cloud maps. You know, you ought to have a cloud map for each one of these things. And the best way to get that is to drive us to work with those ISV partners, with VMware, with Microsoft, with SAP, with all those guys. And so, I mean, that's the name of the game. And if you think you can do it all yourself, you know, take a look at the data center. Yeah, it's tough. How is the IT service economy as you're talking about affecting the partnership and the channel strategies? Because, you know, there are other approaches out there that are in the industry that are kind of old school, controlling the pricing and the lock and all that stuff going on. You guys have always had a great channel. You have the convergence portfolio with network servers and storage. And so, obviously things aren't getting simpler, at least from a solution standpoint.  Right, so what's the channel, what's the market in the field experiencing? Can you talk about the trend there? Yeah, so I mean, I don't know if I'd call it the trend, but so long as you can, you know, ID the customer problem and give an easy answer for your partner, give them a way to, you know, provide the customer a few simple options.  A few in our industry can do that. But, you know, very simple answers to their problems, solutions for their backup issues, whatever. You get that done. Their sales cycles are quicker, their customers are happier, and that breeds a wonderful relationship with our partners. The other thing that is important is how we bring our partners into our cloud system strategy, right? And how we, you know, can link with them arm in arm to deliver cloud computing into our customers. And again, they are, there are brothers and sisters there. So, you know, bringing them along for the ride, big part of it. How about data protection? I've been pretty vocal about how the state of backup is just completely broken. I mean, backup's insurance, right? You're buying insurance policy and nobody wants to overpay for insurance and that's what people do. But you were just saying earlier, what does backup mean, right? Is it primary data? Well, so. You're having a conversation with the electronics. Yeah, so, but backup is complicated, right? It's overpriced. And if I want to extend it to remote offices or even my desktops and laptops, it gets even more expensive.  It's horrible, yeah. That's the word that we've been hearing. Symantec is, but that's the way it is. I mean, people are, you know, they have that infrastructure installed, but virtualization is kind of changing that. It's forcing people to re-look at their backup. You've got this new technology store once, now it's not software technology. Of course, you've got data protector. It is software. And that fits in there. I know, but it is, but it's, well actually, it's, but store once is, it's not a backup application, right? Or would you consider it a backup application? I think it has a relationship to the backup application you're writing. Right, so I'm going to work with Symantec or Network or HP Data Protector or something like that. Okay, so, but the state of backup is a mess, right? And there's a big opportunity here to break down some of those silos. So what is HP doing in that whole space? How are you guys going to make that happen and really put your mark in backup? Yeah, as you appear to be doing, certainly in networking, right? And you've always been very strong in servers and it looks like you're really well positioned in storage now and generally, but how about backup specific? So let's talk about store once. So in June, 2010, we introduced data deduplication architecture. We label store once. And the unique thing about what we're doing here in data deduplication is this is an architecture not just for inline deduplication for backup, but is an architecture that can live on the backup client that is capable of living in primary storage. And the benefit of one architecture across your environment is ultimately you're able to move your data around without having to rehydrate it every time you make a move. That vision is, we're probably not the only ones who have ever recited it, but I think we are the only ones who can make it a reality. By virtue of the technology, that is an architecture that can do those things. Now that came out of HP Labs, right? So it was homegrown. Yeah, yeah. And where we're at today, we have a terrific lineup of inline data deduplication appliances that can get the job done faster, lower total cost of ownership, take a lot of the headache out of deployment and management of those backups. That's a big deal. The next step for us is to take that architecture to the backup client and begin to deliver on that vision that we've talked about. So that is- Okay, so right now you're taking data domain head on essentially, right? And that's a game of bigger, better, faster, better mouse trap. But you're saying, if I understand it correctly, the leverage that you have is that architecturally you can place that on primary as well? Architecturally we can place that on primary. Is that the plan, or can you talk about that a little bit? That is the plan. For this architecture, we need to get it in the entire environment. And to be honest, our, so we have engineers working away at this stuff. Our challenge at the moment is not one of technology. It's one of sales and marketing. It's getting at bats. It's getting into those opportunities to compete and show what we can do because if you are looking at a refresh of your backup environment, guess what? If you refresh that with HP today and tomorrow HP rolls out the duplication on the backup client, guess what? You know, what you got today is going to serve you even better in the future. Not just in line.   You know, so well, I mean it really does. You know, so that's something backup is broken. And I think that, and I think the fix is data protection as a service. And when you're talking about, service-oriented architectures or IT as a service and the whole, you talk about the three-par utility storage, I mean that is ultimately where this business is going. I think you got a great opportunity there. And I hope you can pull it off because I'd love to see that vision come through. You're right, you're not the first place I've ever heard that vision, but you hear it from places that have a lot of different still places. No, it's an execution. You got to execute on it. I mean the thing is you got to get it out there and go and do the frontal and do the head-to-heads and do the marketing and brute force here and some good marketing, change the game on the competition. And Donatelli brings that execution ethos. What's it like working for Dave? Not that you work directly for him. Dave Donatelli is the reason I'm at HP. I got to tell you. Because in the good old days at three-par, you know, I lost more than one deal because Dave Donatelli made that last sales call. The man, you know. He makes sales calls. He likes calling. Yes, he does indeed. So that's a leader. It leads from the front, absolutely. That's the way to do it. So you respect that. I mean he's a task master, right? I mean that's his reputation. He doesn't, you know. Call it in business. Call it what you want. Execution, baby. He really focuses on getting the job done. He doesn't make excuses. Yes. But you're saying that he walks the walk. He does. And that's got to have a ripple effect on the people. Well, and the idea of this converge infrastructure, right? The idea that server storage and networking guys are going to innovate side by side and leverage each other's work to make a better product. Easy to say in a sentence. Hard to do. Try to do it with thousands of engineers. Well, I talk to, you know, CIO like customers all the time through our theCUBE and blogging. And converge networking is here finally, you know. And the convergence in the nirvana we were talking about years ago. And you guys are well positioned. You guys have good marks from customers in terms of, you know, this is not just a Cisco thing anymore. This is HP is a player and has a track record in networking, in storage, and now a three-part kind of modernizing some of the cloud stuff. And they've had servers for years. I mean, even when I work there. So HP actually has the right stuff at the right time. But storage was always a second-class citizen in HP as it was, it still is my opinion, by the way, at IBM. It certainly was that case at SON, right? It was, these were server companies. And they say, yeah, yeah, storage. Well, it's more strategic now in terms of like, we're hearing here about performance, we're seeing flash. But storage, storage software, a lot of innovations around flash, things like that. And I would say that HP's made that transformation just from an ideological standpoint. You're not just a server company. ESSN, and you're not just a storage company, by the way. Even though you're run by a guy with a big storage background.  And it's not just about talking it, right?  C-class blade system chassis, C-class blades, ProLiant blades along with P-4000 left-hand controllers in one chassis, right? Yeah. And so the cool thing to me is that Antibiotica on top of it with the new app versions, I think that's going to be just a game changer. You guys can get that integrated across. I know, you know, we asked Dave specifically about big data at Barcelona, there's all this, you know, softwares at this, but I think if you guys can harness the analytics side of it, that amplifies the value proposition. Can you clarify, where does Vertica sit in the organization? I- Software initially, right? I mean, probably would be the wrong one to talk about. Yeah, okay, so that's it. It came from the software side, but in talking to some of the insides at HP that talked publicly is that Vertica's going to be their VMware to EMC. Well, so, but that makes sense. So, you know, there's this interesting battle. You had VCE on the one side taking a, you know, their partnership approach and you got HP's, you know, approach through vertical integration. And of course, HP doesn't own the hypervisor, so HP's, you know, playing an open heterogeneous hand. Choice, right? Yeah. Versus locking. Well, it's interesting, right? I mean, so- Interesting implicit locking. Well, but no, it is. I mean, basically- Total solution locking. And you know what? And VCE will tell you, look, this is the block.  But this is the block, right? Whereas HP's saying, well, we have more choice. And I think that's an interesting battle. See, to me, it's VCE and HP. And then there really isn't anybody else. I mean, Oracle's kind of got it. You know, the Oracle's just trying to sell their whole stack. And IBM really is not playing here. And who else is there? So it's a really interesting battle. And I think that's going to be a huge market. Multi-billions of dollars in blocks of infrastructure going in. And it's right now, it's a two-horse race. And you guys, I think, are very well-positioned. I mean, I think both companies, different philosophies, but I think- Totally different. Both companies can make a lot of money there. Yeah. So here's the approach. Make it totally simple, right? Sometimes choice can be, you know, red as complexity after, you know, after model stuff, I have to figure it out myself. Sort of for me. So make it totally simple. Get a cloud system, right? Once you've done, there you go. But for a lot of folks, you know, kind of one-size-done-fit-all, give me, you know, there's a lot of folks out there who are going to virtualize in different ways. There's a lot of folks out there who are going to run different kinds of databases. You know, for those guys, we still have the best infrastructure at every level. And that's kind of where we're aiming, right? So why wouldn't you take an open approach? I mean- You can simplify it. You can simplify it and increase utilization and provide speed, economics, and scale. Yeah. Well, I think, by the way, I think the answer to that question is that if you're three separate companies, it's hard enough as it is to do that level of integration.  By the way, talk to some of the large cloud service providers. They have premium clouds running VMware, but then they have, you know, kind of the lower-end offers built on totally different hypervisor technology. What do you do? The cloud service providers tell us a lot. Don't tell us how to do what we want to do. Enable us. Give us the infrastructure. A lot of them want to build their own files. And they've got Citrix, too. It's not just Citrix and VMware. It's Citrix and VMware and other issues. So they don't really care about hypervisor. I'm hearing, but- No, I think that's right, John. And I think that- Like I say, to me, it's Republicans and Democrats. I don't know which one you guys want to see. I mean, Citrix was owned in California, so I guess you can be- I prefer to think of it as Yankees and Red Sox. That's it. It's renaissance. Great, we would go there. Big and bigger. Where's Oracle been in that equation?  That's an American football. What did somebody say the other day that Oracle has become in the North Korea of the IT? Industry, yeah. We love Oracle. I could be jailed soon. I'll tell. So, OK, so that's good. I mean, we're talking about the transformation of HP. We're at Craig Nunez of HP, formerly three-part VP marketing now at HP. Inside the Cube here at SNW with Dave Vellante. I've had a great conversation. Thanks so much. Yeah, anything else? We have time, yeah. What are you seeing here? I mean, a lot of- You guys have time? Is everybody talking cloud? A whole lot of conversations about cloud. DDoop's a pretty hot topic, as you'd imagine. And I haven't had a chance to run through the Expo and see what everybody's, you know, strutting. No, I haven't. I can't write to the Cube. I think the people are in there now. Oh, it's a good time to be in there, actually. Yeah, right on. Now's the time to go. All right. Well, thanks, Craig, for coming on board. Appreciate it. Always a pleasure for the 10th time. Good luck with everything. We'll be watching. We're going to be at HP Discover. We should tell people, right? We're going to be at HP Discover in June. So looking forward to that. Yep. The Cube at 10 Vegas. 10,000 strong in Vegas. 10,000 strong? Well, we'll be broadcasting. HP Discover, we'll be there with the Cube. A lot of gasses, and we'll hear more and more from HP. Looking forward to it. Right on. And we'll see you in Vegas. See you next time. All right. Stay tuned. All right. Bye, guys. All right. That's great.


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