We now move to agenda item 2 on the 17th meeting of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. The committee has been considering a complaint about an MSP this morning. It will now read a statement which sets out the committee's findings. On behalf of the committee, I would like to make the following statement in relation to the complaint against an MSP. The committee has considered a complaint from Christian Allard about Alexander Burnett MSP. The complaint is that Alexander Burnett failed to declare his registered interest when submitting a parliamentary question on 4 August 2016. The committee is unanimous in its decisions reached on the complaint. Firstly, it agrees with the findings in fact and conclusion of the commissioner. Secondly, it considers that the breach justifies the imposition of a sanction on Alexander Burnett. The final decision on whether to issue a sanction lies with the Parliament. The committee will recommend that Alexander Burnett be prohibited from lodging parliamentary questions for written answer for a period of two weeks. I would like to take this opportunity on behalf of the committee to remind all MSPs that they are obliged by law and by the code of conduct to make the appropriate written and oral declarations if they have a declarable interest before taking part in any proceedings of the Parliament. Full details of the complaint and the commissioner's investigation of it will be included in the committee's report, which will be published later this afternoon. We will now consider the draft report, agenda item 3 and that will be in private. Thank you.


Jeg hedder Ikon Berg Hansen, og jeg er en professor i mikrobial food and feeding regions at den tegtige universitetet i Danmark. Jeg har været deres størrelse af The Organising Committee for deres MIFI-konferens. Jeg hedder Dennis Sanderis Nielsen, og jeg hedder professor i Markabaldi fra Department of Food Science her i Universitetet i Copenhagen, og jeg har højt at være part af The Organising Committee for deres MIFI-konferens. Vi er her i posteret, og jeg har med mig to meget kære folk i The Organising Committee for deres MIFI-konferens, og jeg vil sige dem et par kære for at få nogle indsiden på The Organisation og de udkommende, som vi har håbet på at have her i de tre dage af lovlige siden. Jeg vil først til Ikon, så hvad er nogle kære udkommende, som du ville få med at organisere denne konferens? Det mængde for The MIFI-konferenset er at bringe siden med at arbejde i industrie, akademi, og arbejde med regulære aspekter i reglerne og institutioner sammen, og diskutere om køren, evolutionser og innovationer i indsiden af fjernes og fjernes indsiden. Jeg tror, at vi har tænkt, i den første MIFI-konferens, at der var en nye for det, at vi planerede det første MIFI-konferenset til at arbejde i fjernes næste år, men vi havde til at kænge det, fordi det er COVID-19, og vi er nu her i fjernes indsiden med The MIFI-konferens, og det har været en enorm succes. Jeg vil sige, at jeg har været fra den nødvendigste løb, i den længde hold, før jeg begyndte at starte, og med de her eksempelige taler og abonnentere af ændringer. Så vi har enjoyt det meget. Ja, og også, Danis, jeg ved ikke, om du vil tilføje noget på det, og også bare kommentere om, hvilken vibe der er i hele konferenset. Ja, men det har været exakt, som jeg har håbet, og jeg remer på fra den første MIFI-konferens, at bryderne er faktisk lidt tænkt, fordi der er så mange folk, som du vil tage med, og det er alle kolleger, og folk, som du har kollaboreret med, eller vil kollaborere med, og du kan bare følge, at det er denne vibe, during the breaks, where people are talking and talking and talking, and it is obvious that a lot of old connections are renewed, and new connections are made. Ja, exakt, and I have noticed that during the breaks, there are also several industries that are here and exhibiting, and also they gave, we had to think, three or four industry talks with very, very good content. So you know, how did this come about, and did you think it was up to expectations? I would say it was very much up to expectations, also proving, you already knew that, but proving again that very good science is taking place also in the industry, and that is not just selling things, but there is actually very good science behind, and I think us from academia could also learn something there, on how they approach things and how they approach science. Ja, and I don't know if you have to add anything on the industry. For a conference like this, it's very important that we have the support from industry, so we are also very pleased to see the sponsorships from the main sponsors and also from the long list of partners. It's not a surprise to me because I work in industry myself, but it has been a pleasure to see at this conference that the industry symposia, which has been organized by the industry, are very, very scientific also, and we have seen in the scientific sessions that also selected for presentations as scientists from industry. So I think this conference proves that there is a need for stimulating the exchange at high level and between academia and industry. Ja, and so what's next for the MIFI conferences? Do you plan to have another one? Dennis and I have, and with a lot of others during the conference, we have discussed that this is proving again that there is a need for MIFI, so the second conference has felt like an enormous success for all of us participating, so we will definitely organize a third one and hopefully make it to a recurring event. Dennis has promised to be the pillar in the next one, so I'm pretty sure it will be a success also. We very much hope so at least, and I think we all look forward to start organizing the next version. The nice thing about organizing at conferences is that you can make a wish list of all the excellent scientists where you would like to see a talk, and the cool thing here is that most of them actually accept it, and despite corona and restrictions, etc., we're able to show up here in Denmark, and it was just so nice to see people again and see them live on stage. Ja, ja. So it's nice, you know, after this time, we haven't done in-person conferences, it's just nice to get the passion from this, for me it's really one of my first in-person conferences for quite a while to take this passion and take all these networks that you've made also within this to kind of organize the next and what's more to come and things like that. It seemed very clear to me that the presenters have been very satisfied presenting to an audience and not to a screen. I think that has been pretty obvious in all sessions. Ja, and now I want to switch a little bit of focus and discuss about the mythic thematic issue. So you're both editors of the issue that was presented published, so I just want to hear a few words if you can tell us about the thematic issue itself. Yes, one of the research from the conference would be that there would be scientific papers, reviews, and commentaries, and we will publish that in a special issue of film's microbiology letters. We did that after the first mythic conference that's already out in print and also accessible online. We completed a somewhat smaller special issue after the one, after the conference we didn't have, and we decided to close that issue just before we execute this conference, and then we will make a special issue based on the posters, the talks and presentations actually given here, and also invite scientists from the field, which didn't make it to Copenhagen, that if they have papers within the field and scope of MIFI, they can also contribute, even if they are not participating in person here. So you're having an open call really for everyone in the field to submit. Are there any deadlines associated with the... Yes, the deadline for submitting the manuscript is April 1st, 2022. Yeah. And we expect to close the issue around September 22. And Dennis, do you have anything else to add about the upcoming or previous thematic issue? I think the first two thematic issues we have had have actually been really interesting to read. I also have, as the guest editors, read most papers before they were printed, and there's a lot of cool stuff between. And I look forward to seeing the third version here, where I expect to see many cool papers based on what we have seen here at the conference. Great, thank you so much. That was the last question that I had for today. Thanks so much for your time, and enjoy the little bit conference that's left. Thanks a lot.


What is going on guys welcome back to the channel critical overload here since I'm a Chucky season 2 in this video here today Just talking about the Chucky TV series in general because the official first teaser for the upcoming second season That's coming out this October was released today not today, but a couple of hours ago on Saturday And this were released at San Diego Comic Con and from what I see this looks like a very promising season That's coming this fall season can't wait to return to this universe can't wait to see what's going on with Lexie Devin and Jake and now with this first bit of footage from the teaser It looks like we have an idea of what the storyline is going to be dealing with going into Chucky season 2 as far as like the locations anyway Lexie Devin and Jake from the footage that was shown in this teaser looks like they all somehow end up at a boarding school Where it's being ran or at least has we get to see how Devon saw was back Devon saw apparently will have a big role at this boarding school. They all attend and He's going to be someone I guess who's gonna be very prevalent this season as it looks like he was a priest or something I guess and from what I can see it looks like Lexie herself is gonna be struggling with some substance abuse and Looks like Caroline also gets a visit from another Chucky doll at her house Lexie's little sister Caroline that being and it also looks like there was a moment in the teaser where the bridal doll From Brad a Chucky was in Caroline's bed So it begs me the question of is Tiffany preparing her own army in response to Chucky's army because we know that this season will be revolving around Chucky trying to take out those who are responsible For foiling his plans in season one now We also did get a glimpse of Andy Barkley and what I can only assume is the follow-up Aftermath of the trip with the Tiffany doll in the back of the van holding up the gun with all those Chucky dolls in it And it looks like there's a bunch of Chucky Chucky dolls on top of the van at some point that he's driving He puts out this bit of dialogue that says this is for Kyle So I'm thinking are they really gonna commit to killing Kyle if they do I will be happy The only reason I'll be happy is because again, it's not making that whole sequence irrelevant But I also want to throw this out there More than likely it's probably just a way to throw you off You're gonna have to wait and actually now see season two for the full complete context to see if Kyle is alive I think Kyle will end up being alive and again There's nothing wrong with that I would just prefer somebody died from that fire and honestly at this stage with this being about the new group of characters Lexi Devon and Jake it should be Kyle But if they don't do that then they just don't do that but that bit of dialogue I've already seen people talk about Where he's like this is for Kyle and he's got this bit of dialogue is like this is for Kyle That makes people think that old Kyle must be dead Well, honestly if anything they just kind of just wanted you to talk about a bit more throw that question mark back in it We know she's on set Christine at least that being so she's shooting something there as Kyle or she's just there on set for Whatever reason but honestly she has scenes in the upcoming season I would imagine back in the role as Kyle So I would be I would be guessing that she actually did survive and she will return in some capacity Later on in the season how we end up finding that out I don't know but again if she's dead still I guess leads the question of whose love was that behind the tree watching those three at the end of season one We also got to see Chucky basically terrorizing if I guess a few people who work at work on the staff at this Religious boarding school. It looks to be some type of tension between Devon and Jake over a sit over the Chucky situation It looks like they might be in a scenario where no one believes them in the town of hack and sack because they're there's a moment Where they're being questioned by somebody asking them what actually happened to Chucky and cameras are rolling looks like they've been being interviewed Nobody might be believing the story they're telling so they're in and they're in Andy's situation from when he was a kid The situation they were trying to avoid in season one That's just what I'm predicting going off of the footage again that we were shown during this teaser there was released We got to see Glimpses or glimpse at Glen and Glinda. We didn't get to see them. We saw Lachlan Watson In the roles it looks like it's both So hopefully there's something very unique that goes on with these two characters now that they're back Hopefully they have integral roles in the narrative this time around and when I say integral I just mean like something that gives them something to do They're not just back here for nostalgia purposes because people kept clamoring for them to be in the show or for them to return Hopefully both of them have something to do We see them. I guess pulling up in a vehicle. I'm assuming this was them pulling up I could be mistaken in a vehicle to license plate. They said they them could be wrong We also saw Tiffany Doing what was we saw her interacting with Nika. I think at one point. This was also something that's very interesting Was Nika running in this teaser? It looked like Nika was running for a brief second in this teaser So I'm curious if that actually does mean that there was something going on at the end of the at the end of the first Season where Nika was just hallucinating and she actually does have use of her legs and there's some type of Drug that she's being given to make her think otherwise as manipulating her own reality. We'll see where that goes, but honestly, I Know people would prefer that anyway versus what we saw at the end of season one where she didn't have any limbs I know a lot of us thought that was very cruel thought that was a little bit too far It's like you basically have rendered her into nothing. She's a nothing character now She's been through so much since cursed chucking now now. She has no limbs and I know I saw people clamoring that at this point Why don't you just kill her? But there's diamond scene is that there's something else in store for Nika I really truly think and going off of some other dialogue I think Nika is in the teaser trailer saying she wants Tiffany to get what's coming to her while Tiffany Simultaneously or being shown like cutting someone's throat slitting someone's throat while this dialogue is being said So Nika's got some type of revenge arc that's gonna happen this time around and going into season two can't wait to see that I'm curious if she'll end up teaming up with Chucky in some capacity, but I can swear. I saw her running in the teaser I can't be the only one that saw that she was running in this teaser We got to see the last shot was probably the most hilarious Chucky gives a none a heart attack. I guess that might be a callback to child's play three and Then he says hi I'm Chucky want to pray and then he's like the side of me enough is The side of me is scary enough to give you a heart attack and then he thanks Thanks to none as she's dying on on the ground One of the one then more comedic aspects of the teaser trailer. So I liked it I thought it was a pretty good teaser trailer all in all Didn't I wouldn't say it showed a lot as much as it did tease a lot of things to get you hyped up for What's to come later this October when season two debuts on the USA sci-fi network? I can't wait to see that season You'll have all the weekly recaps on here from me as well if you haven't of course make sure you subscribe turn on post In case you never miss a video in the description I have links to all my social media accounts my Facebook Twitter and Instagram you can message me there Of course the limit over if there's any movies news or reviews You're letting me to cover in the future and with all that in mind guys. I will see you in the next video


Hey everyone, since this pandemic started, I've been on the fence about how seriously I should take what we're hearing from the media. After all these years of documenting media corruption, I'm naturally skeptical. But this is serious business, and they wouldn't mislead the American people with their usual hackery in such a serious moment, right? According to James O'Keefe of Project Veritas, his team obtained video showing nurses talking about having just helped CBS News to fake a long line of people requiring testing.  But the governor says testing above all else will help determine when to fully reopen. Some people will think we should move faster. Some people will think we should move faster. That's the footage that CBS rolled, seemingly trying to bolster the Michigan governor's desire to keep the state locked down. It appears that there was no real lines of people needing to be tested, so they rounded up a bunch of medical workers and pretended to be actual patients coming in to be tested. In the Project Veritas clip, you can hear the cameraman straight up asking the nurses if they knew it was all fake and how they felt about that. They seemed annoyed, but oddly okay with being used as props for political propaganda. Now obviously I can't show you the whole thing, I recommend that you head over to Project Veritas's YouTube channel when you're done here and watch the entire video. Sorry for the interruption and we'll get right back into this episode, but first give me 30 seconds to tell you about this free offer for my subscribers. It's tough right now to get your hands on gold. Dealers just can't get enough, but we know it's time to protect your wealth. Time to protect your family. Did you know that you can buy, sell, and spend physical gold with swipe with gold? 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Funny how she's never asked to provide a single shred of evidence for this claim, which we all know is an utter lie. It's typical operating procedure for these people. Yes, I believe there was a Confederate flag at this rally, as well as a sign that used the swastika as a metaphor for what's going on in Michigan. It wasn't an endorsement of Nazism. The Michigan governor and the media know this, but they're purposely dishonest in order to smear this protest movement. You can find plenty of hammer and sickle flags at any Democrat party rally or protest, and yet you never see the media point them out and then tarnish the entire protest as communist. James O'Keefe said this about the footage on his website. Nick Ross, a corporate cleaning site supervisor at the Cherry Health facility, said he was there when the CBS News crew arrived and set up the video shoot at the COVID-19 testing site in the parking lot. Apparently the news crew wanted more people in the line because they knew it was scheduled. It's just annoying because we could have done other stuff. Said one of the registered nurses there recorded with a hidden camera by a Project Veritas insider. CBS News responded to James O'Keefe saying quote, CBS News did not stage anything at the Cherry Health facility. Any suggestion to the contrary is 100% false. These allegations are alarming. We reached out to Cherry Health to address them immediately. They informed us for the first time that one of their chief officers told at least one staffer to get in the testing line along with the real patients. Oh come on, what would be the point of getting one staffer in that line? No one from CBS had any knowledge of this before tonight. They also said that their actions did not prevent any actual patients from being tested. We take the accuracy of our reporting very seriously and we're removing the Cherry Health portion from the piece. What good would that do? The piece already ran. In the video, the nurses don't mention anything about testing real patients. They just all seem annoyed that their time was wasted when they could have been doing better things. The way they worded this denial is suspicious to me as well. In the part where they said it didn't prevent any real patients from being tested. Well yeah, that could be a true statement if there was nobody there to be tested in the first place. You could take CBS News at their word, but after all their years of bias and deception, I'm inclined not to believe them. Seriously, if you want to check out long term documentation of their deception, check out their section on newsbusters.org. I'll link it in the description. This isn't the only deceptive reporting to come out from CBS News recently. Just yesterday, their CCP asset, Ouija Zhang, promoted a story from a supposed whistleblower complaint that had already been debunked. So this supposed whistleblower complaint comes from a former HHH official, Rick Bright, and it's two-fold. One, he claims he warned the Trump administration in January and was ignored, and two, that he was ousted for not pushing hydrochloroquine. Both claims are suspect, without evidence, and have largely been debunked. Today, ousted vaccine expert Rick Bright filed a formal whistleblower complaint, alleging his warnings were ignored. Nora, Rick Bright's complaint lays out in detail just how devastating he predicted the coronavirus would be and how he tried to get his superiors to listen. Tonight, President Trump is not addressing the bombshell report, focusing instead on reopening the country. Rick Bright, who was ousted from his job leading the administration's efforts to find a vaccine, claims he warned the White House in January of the crisis that was coming but was ignored. Bright says he encountered resistance from HHS leadership, including Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, who appeared intent on downplaying this catastrophic threat. Time after time, I was pressured to ignore or dismiss expert and scientific recommendations, instead to award lucrative contracts based on political connection. In other words, I was pressured to let politics and cronyism drive decisions. Like I said, this so-called bombshell had already been laid to rest. From Politico, a left-leaning news source who reported, quote, Bright told the New York Times on Wednesday that he believed his removal was because of his internal opposition to pursuing investments in malaria drugs as potential treatments for COVID-19. Three people with knowledge of the HHS's recent acquisition of tens of millions of doses of those drugs said that Bright had supported those acquisitions and internal communications, with one official saying that Bright praised the move as a win for the health department as part of an email exchange that was first reported by Reuters last week, although Bright's message was not publicly reported. If Bright opposed hydrochloroquine, he certainly didn't make that clear from his email. Quite the opposite, said the official, who has seen copies of the email exchanges. So the first part of his complaint is clearly bogus, which definitely casts doubt on the rest of it. The second claim that he warned Trump officials in January, specifically the Health and Human Services Secretary, Alex Azar, who he describes, appeared intent on downplaying this catastrophic threat. This is also inconsistent. CBS's own reporting on Alex Azar is that Azar had warned Trump in January and was ignored himself. So there's definitely some contradictions there. They also claimed Trump advisor Peter Navarro wasn't taking his warning seriously in early February. But again, CBS is reporting Cass Navarro as also warning Trump in January. I know this is kind of hard to follow, but the point is, CBS's own reporting contradicts with this guy's whistleblower complaint, and yet they went forward with this story. There's no facts at all in this story, only baseless claims and speculation. But we're used to that when it comes to reporting on Trump from the DNC media. That's all I have for this episode. Please hit that like button, share, and subscribe. If you want to support this channel, you can do so on one of these platforms. You can find all the links in the description and pinned comment. Thanks for watching. Keep coming back.


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Thank you, Suman. Thank you, Amna. That was a lot of content in crunched in like eight, eight, nine slides or so. And I am at a loss for where to start. But let me start with certain questions. Like first, I must announce that if anyone from the audience you want to ask questions, please put your question on Q&A, and we will take your question and give it to the panelists over here. I'll start with my first thing, which is, and I'll not immediately dive into the technicalities. Right early in the slides, you've started talking about you're actually working with non-digital native people a lot. When you're working with people who are non-digital native, then what kind of challenges you might have come across in working with them versus working with people who have a kind of an experience in working with digital systems? Is there are there challenges in training them? Are there challenges in even approaching them to work and help you with these products or help you with the work? Just give us a little bit of a context around that. That would be great. Either of you can take it. Take the question. So you want me to take this? Sure. So while there are challenges, because the first challenge is they are not immediately able to see what the end product will look like. They don't have that in their imagination. The second challenge is that we have to develop an offline plus online kind of a work trailer for them. So a lot of the stuff happens offline. A lot of the context setting happens offline. And then all of that work once reviewed, et cetera, then it comes and is kind of moved to the online environment and published. The third thing is I think they are not able to understand the use case very directly. Like, are they on the internet? How am I going to use it? How is it going to be helpful for me? So to make them understand that all of it that you put out there is for posterity. Your language gets saved. It's a digital archive that you're building for a child speaking the language anywhere in the world. And secondly, that you will be able to anyways use it in the offline environment. We have what we call the offline library on the platform where you could come online to save books offline and then not have the internet, but still get the same reader experience. So all of that. And like I said, you could download the books as PDFs and save them in a USB and then take them to your school where you have a tablet and then show the stories to them. You could print them on your local printer at home, staple them into books or spiral bind them and take them. So you have to make them understand these use cases. But the fourth thing is like with all the digital native, non-natives that we have seen, the pride of the language and the fact that they are helping it come online and therefore maybe tomorrow you will have WhatsApp in that language. You know, that possibility of it is energy enough and motivation enough to work with them. And it's almost always been inspiring for us. Right. And if my understanding is right, they are helping you in both creating and translating the content as well as giving their stories and also in the consumption side of things. They are involved in both sides. Yes, yes. So they would be coming and maybe say Sujapuri is a language spoken in an area in Bihar called Kishenganj. Azad India Foundation works in that area. So the Azad India team comes and translates books to Sujapuri from Hindi and takes it back to their classroom intervention. Okay, makes sense. All right, so one general question I want to ask is that how did you decide on the need for supporting multiple languages? We obviously started this presentation right off the bat, saying that you're being accessed in 200 plus countries and all, but that's not how it would have started. And you'd briefly shared that the start of supporting multiple languages only started like three years or so after you open the platform itself. How did you come about taking this decision? Was there any research involved? Suman, you are me. You start. Okay. So Pratham Books was a multilingual publisher, a print publisher. And actually the organization was started to make multilingual books, not necessarily English books, but to create multilingual content for the last child. The mission was to reach a book in every child's hand. The implied understanding is the book needs to be in the mother's language of the child. So that was where the genesis was from. So therefore, obviously every offering and serving that you put out from the Pratham Books table would need to be in the language that can be consumed by the user in their mother tongue. So while we got to localizing, putting out the Hindi localization in 2018, the work on this started very much around 2016 M. So it was never a question for us. All right, makes sense. So this is a different kind of organization because you already have the legacy of publishing in multiple languages. So that is very much in the ethos, which I must point out is will be a rare thing in when you talk about organizations in India. I think very few organizations will actually be thinking of by default that obviously we have to support multiple languages. That's not as obvious as it comes out in this conversation. But then once you did adopt it on the tech platform, what kind of adoption did you see or what kind of results did you see? Did it help in any way for that in the tech side of things, did the usage increase, did the stories increase or was there reduction in anything? Did people feel that, oh, why am I in this site where I don't understand the, or people accidentally landing in the wrong language or anything like that? Can you tell us the effect, positive or negative of adding multiple languages? Yes, all yours. Okay, so we actually, we are still going in a very balanced way. Okay, so if you see my slides also, right? I mean, I did not talk about, I mean, in story we were also, today if you open it, right? The language selector is not upfront. Okay, so we are still playing it safe. Okay, so in our known integrations, for example, the DDL site, whatever the last slide I showed, right?  Okay, it's very safe to launch our Farsi location there because the transitions are given by them and they are okay with that, okay? And that's where they need it actually, I mean, to have it, so we are as part of it. So wherever it is sure short integrations, there we definitely pushing it. Okay, but if you ask me today, I mean, what is the uptake and all? Okay, so I don't have much numbers because intentionally we are not moving it up. Okay, but definitely our translators and those people, our in-house studios and all, right? I mean, I have seen them continuously using Hindi and Marathi sites, okay? So internally. So at least I believe that I mean, they are very well thought through and well built. Okay, so in at least next two to three months, whatever the way we are working, right? I mean, you should see that pop up upfront coming and I will be able to share some numbers with you. All right, so what you're saying is anecdotally, you see people using it, but you're yet to measure how much is the actual impact of adding these languages, that's right? Yeah, and we are intentionally driving it like that. Yeah, and one last point, because of this whole COVID-19 situation where so much of the education are now being brought online, we are working very, very aggressively with government partners to have these offline libraries and digital libraries being made available on sites like Deeksha, et cetera. And which is where we are anticipating now a huge uptake because all of our links that go to the government partners in North of India are the Hindi website links because everyone right from the government stakeholders to the teachers, to the parents, to the child are used to working with Hindi textbooks, Hindi environments. So that's a huge uptake and similarly for West Africa, which is why the next step is that the site will be now a localized to French, it's almost ready actually, that's the next launch. All right, so at this point, I'm going to make the questions and the questions that I'm going to ask, I'm going to make it more relevant and make it outside the story we were aspect of things. Just to use your experience to understand what does it take? And the first thing that I want to ask that not everyone is working on translating books or translating stories that you have a huge amount of stories, but when a large part of this talk from my understanding was about translating the content rather than translating the platform itself. So can you tell me a little bit of one as a bridging thing? What are, how do you see the two exercise different or is it not much different that if any of the translate stories were both technically speaking as well as content by speaking versus when you have to translate the platform itself, how do you approach it differently? Are they different challenges? Suman, I'll take the content bit, you take the tech side of it. Sure, sure. So content-wise, yes, they are very different. You are way more cognizant of the language and the nuance in the story itself than on the platform because you're also letting design do a lot of the intuitive navigation. So while Suman made me sound like this stickler for perfection on the localization front, but yeah, I mean, all that we really do the hygiene checks around are whether the context is right and the tonality of it. So for example, if to give you a Hindi example, in the English website, the tabs are action verbs, read, create, you know? But when you do the localization, we used compound verbs like pahie, you know? So because we didn't, we didn't want the tone to be a, you know, talk down tone of the platform because that's not the language of the platform. So those are the things content side that we have to, we take care of, but we are not as, you know, stickler for perfection and leading level appropriateness as we would be for our stories. We kind of do not hold it with emotional gloves, if I were to say. Is it the reason this platform translations and all are more around micro copies and small text being translated and they are not based out of a storyline and things like that? Is that why you can be a little more relaxed about it? The platform text itself, yes, it's more generic. It's not, while the content is very reader specific, it is a reading level specific content, it is level to a reading exposure, the platform is way more generic. So I don't have a, yeah, sorry. And not only that, Sawak, I mean, if you see our translation, right, it comes with a beautiful split data. So virgin story is rendered on the left side, okay, in English or whatever the language. I mean, if you're sticking from English, there are more input tools like transliteration comes up, dictionary comes up, the translation comes up when you click on it. And then you will be given an empty page with the same look and feel for you to write down. So both of us are easy here, because the environment itself, we create it like that, the editor itself, we bring it like that, along with the required input tools. But when it comes to localization, right? I mean, with the kind of people we have, I know how many U-turns that Amna and her team takes, because first of all, they don't have access to the site, okay? They take the pictures of it and I have seen them offline, creating loads and loads of papers or pictures, sending on WhatsApp saying that this read is here, okay? So then they will contextualize and say that it comes as Padye in some place, it comes in some place, it comes as Padoh, something like that. I mean, that read is different from this read, right? So for that, you need to set that context also. Where is this label coming in? So it's very different, I mean, I have seen it, okay? So the story translation, okay? We cannot directly call the APIs also, because there is no context on the APIs, okay? So they go with pictures also, even to say that, see, for this, you give the label, for this, you give the short-end language, I mean, language or sentence, like that, right? So the other, the latter one, right? I mean, I have seen her really struggling with the kind, that to be the kind of less tech-savvy audience that we have. Okay, so when you say the latter kind, you mean the platform localization, right? Yes, yes, yes. That's a bit, all right. So now you did touch upon the fact that there are, obviously, there's a manual translation and the NAPI-based translation. Can you tell us the difference in the outcome of both? And which one would you recommend? Say, if I give you in a hypothetical state, a situation that, here's an organization, think of another nonprofit having their own communication site and they want to have their site in multiple languages. This is not about books, but they're a website, which is communication, marketing communication website. Which of the two translation strategies or the mix, the third one, manual-plus API, what is the difference between the three and which one would you probably recommend or suggest? Or even if you're not prescriptive, what should be the basis for someone to decide between the three strategies? See, if you ask me, see the easiest thing one is to use some plugins, right? I mean, there are N number of plugins.  But the decision that is required for the application owner is, whether you want to give the control to that one, which is translating everything, whatever is there in your page or you want to have a control, only subsection is translated some sections or not, okay? So what I'm trying to answer is it is not a straightforward answer. I mean, there are at least the next level questions need to be answered by the product managers saying that to the tech team, to say that, I mean, are there any such things? For us, I mean, when you're doing a translation, okay, I can use a plugin, right? It will change the original story as well, right? So I cannot definitely go on an API based for the whole site. Okay, that's when the quality team is put on it. So there are very specific sensitive pages where people might not even accept the API based. So what we have really seen it working is the combination of both. For example, in French also, right? I mean, not French, I mean, at least the Farsi. So there is something called reading program. Okay, so if you see in our site, right? There is something called structured six months program that we have launched where a reading percentage is also measured and at the end of it, if you complete the course, you will be given some certificates and all such things is there. Okay, so while the display part is okay for you, okay? For that portion of it, for the rest of the language, for the reading program, you want to be very sure that the language, whatever is been the synopsis that has been given, whatever the labels that are given. So this case, it again takes you to a decision point where PLM, I mean, product team, content team and the tech team need to sit and say that, yeah, I mean, you can use the APIs, but I still want this section to be in a different way. Okay, so you should be ready to give them both the solutions. So what are the, can you different, can you like, let me put this question to Amna. Can you tell us a little bit of the difference between the quality of output between a manual translation and API translation? So contextually, there is a difference because a manual translation gets the context and kind of then renders it according to what the context is. So we have read and reads on the platform and these are two different things, right? But an API may get confused and just pluralize it or whatever. The second thing I think is from the design element because in the manual translation process, we also end up giving a context of design from an offline perspective. And you know how in Indic languages, the space taken is much more, right? When writing out a language and it kind of throws the design off completely. So that I think, again, in the API, and if you have to go back and then edit, then it doesn't make sense. It's like reinventing the wheel there. So there the manual translation works, but scalability-wise, manual is not the way to go. It really is not. And especially with features with the platform like ours where like Suman said, it's evolving and dynamic. And every feature release brings about, okay, there is a new localization pipeline created. It is resource-heavy. It is effort-intense. So we feel truly that, you know, if you have a dispassionate view towards the text that is gonna get rendered to localization and you're looking to make it just something that is available so that it's easier for people to work with it in their own language, then definitely APIs. But as you know, APIs and Indic languages aren't great. You have, they're healthier for French and Spanish because the data sets available are great. Actually, just to use this to bring our point, we've been working with partners to actually populate data sets in languages like Gondi. So that, you know, through a translation hackathon where 250 books got translated and data sets were created, this would be again used as input to create a machine translation tool for the language. So that is the other roundabout way to go actually help strengthen the machine translation tool and bring it back to the platform and then strengthen the libraries around it. All right, this is very interesting. So let me try to summarize this. What I hear is that if you go the manual labor route, not only is the quality of translation high, there are other decision parameters that can be considered like what is the design? We have to keep the text short because it has to fit in the design and all and the translation can be smarter that ways because someone, a human is thinking through all these parameters while actually using the translation words. But if you go at the API side of things, you'll be able to scale faster. That's what you're saying. You'll be able to do a lot more translation faster. But another parameter that you pointed out is that which language you are translating in will have a huge difference in the quality of the API as well or the machine, the algorithms that are doing the translation. And therefore, if you're using English, French and some of the more popular languages, then API translations will be of a higher quality. And if you are using some really index or languages that are spoken by a few people, in that case, the translation quality is bad. And then you also added that you can take that as an input for machine learning. And which now also gets me your question, which API or which service are you using where you can actually feed this in machine learning, which technology are you using? Yes, currently we are using Google APIs and for some of the selected languages, MS or APIs. Sorry, I didn't catch. The second one is the Bing APIs. All right, so one is the Bing API, the other one you said was? Google Translation APIs. Google Translate. So does Google Translate or Bing allow you to feed translations to it to help it improve? Or is it something else? Or have you been using it? That was a partner project. Working with Microsoft and CGNetswara, which was the Gondi partner on the project. So basically it was a three way collaboration. The books get populated on the platform. CGNetswara gets a Gondi library and also gets to give the input to Microsoft to develop the machine learning tool. All right, so there are two questions that have come in from the audience. I'll take that first before I continue in my round of questioning. The first question is that how do you work with partners in other regions? Do you provide a SaaS solution as most civil societies does have resources to deploy and adapt story weaver platform? So how do you work with partners in other regions? I just need one more context to it. Is it with respect to the localization? Is it with respect to the kind of integrations that I was talking about? I mean, you understand that part? So in what context is this question being asked about partnerships is not clear. So RK, if you can just add that, then that will help us. Because both answers are different. Right, so would you want to touch upon briefly for both of them? Yeah, yeah. So we can take that. I've just posted the question. Yeah. So RK is there online. So I'll allow you to speak and then you can ask your question. Hello, can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. So my question is about both the platform where I support organizations to produce their own books in Kenya and Cambodia. So the question is both about access to the platform but also some of the localization features that we sometimes need to put in because different countries have different localization fund support and stuff like that. Thanks. Okay, so if I understand currently, they need both the answers. So I'll take the integrations part first. If any partner is willing to have some integrations, there are multiple levels of integrations with Story Viva, the content level integrations and even the site level integrations. So for that, I mean, if some questions are coming from any of the partners, you can clearly imagine that they're already tech savvy. They understand what is integration, what is APA, such kind of it. So we do have integration documents and partnership team from Amna's side works very closely with them, with us to have the required MOU signed up and then both the teams get connected. And then we take them through how the integration document need to work, what is the tech that is required on our side and their side. Okay, and then slowly we put a release plan for it and that's how we work with on the integration side of it. So currently, even if you take a couple of examples, very recently, we had one integration from the Kaite organization that is Kerala's state government. So they did integrate Story Viva as part of their intranet. So they have some Agra portal. So it's a small, very small integration which writes on single sign on. So that is one, I mean, their tech team spoke to us and then the required formalities were completed and the integration happened. So currently we are working with an Afghanistan partner which I mentioned during my, that is also on the same lines. It is yet to get rolled out. So that is, so that's the way for the partnerships at the integration level. So coming to the localization, Amna, you want to take that part? The content localization. Yeah, yeah, with the partners. Yeah, yeah. So I keep for the content localization with the partners, we have curated gateway on the platform itself where we give them a specific role and we onboard their entire team. So for example, if a partner was to come onboard as a translation partner. So we assign them the role on the platform. They get a very specific gateway to work with. They get a complete dashboard and from where a specific content is assigned to them depending on, and this content is mutually decided. So they would be looking at, they could be looking at a very certain specific type of contents. For example, in the context of story we were, this could mean they're looking to create bilingual books or they could be looking to work with STEM books around curriculum supplements. So accordingly, the repository is decided and moved to their dashboard from there. They have all their partner, the translation and the review teams get tagged on to that dashboard from where the assigning the review and the publishing happens. It's a completely different workflow that has been created for the partners and they are empowered to kind of come and use the platform on their own and create the corpus on their own. I hope that answers your question. Great, thank you. You also have another question. You also have another question, please go ahead and ask. So my question is about EPUB 3. It has support for audiobooks. This is for children who still can't read. They can listen to the books. Also, this could help people with learning disabilities or some kind of other disabilities. So do you have any plans of supporting EPUB 3 to read along books in future? Actually, it is currently already there. If you go to Storyweaver, right? I mean, the assets can be downloaded in two format. One is PDF and one is EPUB. Yeah, our EPUBs have some improvement areas in terms of it's not fully reflowable and all those things. But coming to a specific question of read along, I mean, if you can download and check any of the EPUBs, I mean, there is a read along facility already in that with the version that we are using. And since the content is under the very liberal license of CCBY 4.0, you could download the EPUB and then version it to a read along in the language that you are working with and use the content. All right, I'll move on to the other question that I have. In between anyone else has any other questions? Feel free to ask it in the Q&A tab. Let me talk about budgets. Because when you started out, you said that we are working on a choosing budget and that is something that is preventative or at least it works against your favor when you're doing localization. So how expensive is localization making sure that your sites are there addressing multiple languages or multiple cultures? And how do you actually estimate the ROI aspect of things which you also pointed out as one of the points? Should we add support for this language? Will it actually give us a return on investment? Some thoughts on that? Yeah, I'll attempt when you please pitch in wherever it is required. So first of all, we said, I mean, we are consciously putting our steps ahead on with respect to the localization. So there are weighted, I mean, balance and checks that happens before we select any language and based on the kind of partner shape and the visibility that it is going to bring in. There are a number of factors on which I'm not decides, right? So but coming to the costing question of it, okay, so there are multiple out of the box solutions, right? I mean, if I have attempted or rather, I have taken the demos from a couple of them. Okay, so there are two kinds of systems, right? I mean, one is the workflow based system is to get the contextualized quality translations. Okay, so which I definitely would not go for because we have our own studios, we have our own translator networks and which Amna is empowered with or she works with, right? So that definitely I don't want that workflow. Okay, so coming to the application stack and the resource, the label loading and this one, that is the smallest part of the tech, I mean, if you see, okay, so once you conquer, how do you prepare your data and reviews being done? I kept on telling in my presentation that is the major part in the, or difficult, rather difficult part in the localization. Once you conquer it, the actual tech part is less, right? I mean, it's only that the final review CSS breakage shortening it or just playing with it, your CSS, handling RTL, that's it. So that definitely depends upon the application stack. Okay, and there also with the kind of automation I have taken, I mean, we have built in, it can be definitely taken to the next levels of the Nirvana state, but it depends upon how much you really want to invest and the ROI as you said, okay? So that is one. And so I answered two parts of, yeah, tell me.   The translation editor kind of whatever the example I was giving it. But when, Sovik, I would, I don't know to quote the numbers, but they're definitely costly, okay? I mean, I'll give it to you. I mean, I might not build a full fledg because I don't need the full fledged thing also. I can decide what parts of that framework is need to be built in. And it's already in my radar and I will be able to build it and use it efficiently with lesser, much lesser or rather no cost with that. So it's only three parts. So that's why I answered in three parts. Right, so, but just for understanding, I don't want numbers here, but let me say that if the cost is 100 units to have a single language product. Then for adding each language, do you think 30% cost increases, 100% cost increases? Does it shoot up to 300% cost? Because in cost, you have to also take care of the human effort that also goes in, in planning, doing all those things, other than the products and the tech products we are talking about. So do you feel that adding a language doubles the cost, triples the cost or is it just a marginal increase for an average product or a website? Amna, you want to take that because you would have the- Amna seems to have dropped off. Amna seems to have dropped off right now, but I guess she would be joining in. Otherwise, if you feel uncomfortable in answering this question right now, we can come back to this later and I can ask a more generic question. Sure, because it comes to costing and majorly the translation part plays around it. So I'll be more comfortable- Right, and what about the tech effort? What about the tech effort? Why does the tech effort double? So the tech effort is not really right, I mean, because I mean the framework, I mean, if you ask me, it depends upon how you have put the framework, how I have put it in the story we were is, what is the means? Okay, you, whether manually, translators came in, whether the APA gave, I have a central repository and I really don't care where the translation inputs came in and from there, the automation starts. So if you see the beauty of it, right? It really doesn't matter. Okay, on the tech side, and there is no extra cost. Okay, so actual cost is on the other side. On the content side to actually produce the translation. That is the bulk of the cost that comes. Exactly. A more generic question from the tech side of things. So have you come across any technology platforms or techniques or strategies that can make it easier for websites to adopt multiple languages? And in this case, I'm not necessarily talking about crowd sourcing, translations or reaching out to other people for translation of stories, but the platform or communication website translation. If you, do you think, can you suggest any tech platforms that you might have come across or techniques or strategies? Yeah, multiple of them, right? I mean, if it is a small CMS system that you are building around, okay, so you can use the out of the shelf like web flow, for example, okay? So it's easy to build your portal. Okay, it's already gives you the back end required CMS part. Okay, and also it comes with a number of plugins. Of course, they're all commercial. Okay, and already I think 12 to 25 languages. Okay, so the localization support is already there. Okay, as long as you can keep spending the money, you can have your portal built in no time with different languages. All right, and other than web flow, any other tools come to your mind? Or what about that on the translation side of thing? You mentioned Google and Bing offer translation services. Are there any other options that are there for you to get quick translations done? No, come into translation abuse, there are many, right? But what is important for us is what gets vetted and given as a instruction from the content team or the product management team. So currently only these two are authorized or rather have passed our verification and the quality levels. Okay, so only Google and Bing in your mind has actually changed this. In our content, yeah. Do you have any suggestions around the content management systems that are out there? Have you evaluated those? Because you said that your product is built, is a custom developed product on Ruby on Rails and front end being in ReactOS. But have you considered? Sorry, Sawik, I lost you. Amna, am I audible? You're audible, Suman. I also can't hear Sawik though. Sorry, I'm back. Can you hear me now? Yeah, yeah. I got a call and that disrupted my phone. Okay, so I was asking that have you considered any other CMSs or content management systems? Because you said that your product is built on Ruby on Rails so you must have had to do a lot of custom development. Honestly, I cannot take this question because it's only two plus years I have been there. I am sure there has been quite some history why there was a clear decision to invest so much on building our own custom platform. Amna, you want to add anything? No, I'm also not aware of this, sorry. Okay, all right. What I am very comfortable is with, I mean, now that we have the whole course, skeleton has been there. Okay, so whether it is new site integrations or anything, I mean, it's pretty easy for us.  So that's the... All right, so Amna, I think we lost you for a little bit. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, that's okay. So there was a question that I had asked that effort-wise and therefore budget-wise, if a site takes 100 units of effort or 100 units of budget to work on, to localize it in every language or to localize that product or a website in say adding one language or two languages or three languages, by what factor does the effort increase? So think of this, try to answer it for like, if someone is considering that, okay, I have my site built in English language and taking me 100 units of money. If I want to add another regional language to that, will it, how much will it cost? Oh my God, it will be many fold, mainly because of the time involved. And like I said, the dynamics of the platform, making it like a continuous engagement. And also the monetary aspect, right? Most of the APIs in this context of story we are available to us for free because you know, that is the kind of the data that we require, the kind of limit that we have, we are well within it. But the moment we localize it using a manual effort, there is a cost involved to per word of the translation. So I don't know, like it is many, many fold. Like someone can give me the data sets in about two days, right? If I were to ask her to call in our API. But if I was to do it using a translator, it is at least a quarter's work, three months. Plus the money is involved. First the money is involved in this. So you're saying that manual translation is multiple times more expensive. But if you can go to the API root and provided you can work within it, it will be a little, but even for the automated one, you would have to spend enough effort vetting the quality of the translation, right? Yes, yes, so that's step three. But you know, like, and that anyways, I would have to do with the manual translation also given editorial sign off on it. So yeah, the deviance may not be too much, but it's still one step where the intensity would be maybe a little lower. Yeah, that's why the preferred one should be always both.  I mean, it's your like, you might end up in transcripting everything. So now one more general question, I think Amna can take this, which is how important do you feel our vernacular language support for sites that are built in India? I would say very important, mainly because I mean, like you said, the ethos of Rathambuks is in the multilingual access for children. So for us, definitely very important. And also this whole homogeneous mass of India does not exist, right? There is no, all Indians are not English speakers or even Hindi speakers for that matter. And the lower in the spectrum you go, it becomes even more important because they are very alienated from the dominant languages. So way more, but the problem is threefold. A, the digital nativity is not there when you go down the spectrum. So bringing the languages on to the online platform itself is a problem. The second problem is there are no APIs healthy enough to kind of work in the machine translation space. We also wanted to take this opportunity to point out that we are working with the two language groups, Phongani from Goa and Mithili to bring them into the Google input translation universe. So we are helping develop transliteration tools using these two languages, working with the language groups specifically and the transliteration tool is actually ready to be onboarded on the platform. I think Suman, your release is next week, right? For both Mithili and Phongani. So that could be a starting step for bringing the language, at least having a unique code tool for them to be able to input into the translation, the localization raw material. Got it. And as an extension of my previous question I asked because what I understand is you were saying it's very important but digital nativity hasn't gone in. Other than that, why do you feel that sites like, unlike Pratham, which was already aware of publishing in so many languages, why do you feel that there are so few sites that are actually supporting so many languages that India has? And primary focus remains on English and if at all some of them actually top in Hindi because the market size is big. What are the challenges in the process that prevent websites from supporting many languages in India? What do you feel are the challenges? I can answer the content bit, maybe Suman can take up the tech bit of it. So the challenges is a chicken and egg story. The input mechanisms are so tough. The resources are so few to find. Like even today when we work with our translators for the manual translation of localizing the platform, we have to pick people who understand the web environment, who understand the design codes, who understand the visual balance of a website itself. So the subset kind of shrinks further. So that is one. And the second the uptake because the digital penetration itself of devices in India is so low that you feel you're making so much of an investment and will there be an uptake of the platform itself in localization or will it? Yeah, there's this whole chicken and egg but unless you do it, unless you do it, make it healthier, you're not making it reach the people. And I strongly feel that the digital access is only increasing, right? It's penetrating whether it is through these, the broadband services that are now available. It's becoming economically more and more viable. So we have to start investing in these localized websites now to be able to be ready for when India is ready to kind of take it up at the consumption level. Right, and on the tech front? Yeah, so it all starts with Udicode, right? So one script using multiple language is supporting them and that itself is a big maze or puzzle for us to solve.  So there are some defects that are raised, some matras are not supported and whatever has been supported is not proper. And we don't know how to fix, we cannot fix it because it comes from the base of the Unicode, right? So, and that becomes still more tightened and still more difficult when we get into our languages which is running with one script. So that's on the tech side, actually. Okay, so script, whether the script itself supports, the Unicode itself supports all the characters in the scripts and all that, and only recently I would say the Unicode support and the font, Indic language fonts have started coming out. So hopefully, so you feel that these challenges are slowly easing away at this point of time. The tech challenges are, is it easier to put out a... Not really, you know. I mean, the other important aspect you spoke about is ultimately, once you handle the character, next one is the display part, right? So even we are still struggling with because it's not supported across the browsers. So how do you ensure that the script or font is installed in every user's mission? If it is installed only, that browser will handle it. Otherwise, we need to go... What about web fonts? Web fonts are not working well? No, like, for example, NotoSans, right? I mean, it's some global, okay? So as long as you're working behind the NotoSans, I mean, you are secured, right? I mean, at least. But you take very recent languages, rollout, whatever we had for... I don't know whether you have heard of Chuckman, Lepcha. Okay, so they look so beautiful, okay? So, but we are able to render them on the editor because it's customized and we can enforce it on our editors, but as soon as it comes to the display part where the browser takes over, no, nothing works.  Okay, make this. Now, we have reached almost end of time. One last thing that I wanted to ask, you had started very early, the very first line, I think what Amna had said, that we are an open source platform. So from that point, are there things or tools that you have released as open source, which other teams can use and benefit to help translate their work or put out their sites and all in multiple languages, including the editor that you're talking about, are these available in public domain for people to use it, give you feedback, but also make use of it? Yeah. Actually, our story-weaver platform code itself is open sourced, okay? So every six months, every six to eight months, let me put it like that, okay? So that's where I mean the tested and the latest code, which has been properly reviewed and we are satisfied with, that gets into the open source, okay? So and it's already, I mean, there is a version which is already open source, which is quite latest as well. Okay, so people can take it and there is a documentation that has been put around also saying that which other libraries they can work with.  I mean, we even pointed out saying that we are all open, what we are really open for, if somebody contributes, whether we are able to take their inputs and merge to our branch, okay? So we have even called out those sections, which are very low-hunging fruits and which we are also very interested with. So there is a whole ecosystem there, okay? So unfortunately, there is less participation there, but we are still trying to see what are the other forums where we can reach out and see whether it can uptake. All right, you might want to drop in a link off to us as well on the happy page as well, that where are these source codes so that the community can actually reach out and use some of the work that you've done as well as contribute back to your work that you're putting out. Archie had made a few couple of comments over here with respect to I think the fonts and how they can be rendered. Do you want to drop in and just speak out your words, Archie, so that it's there on the record for us? Sure, so it's not, so Doto, Mozilla, Google had contributed. So the font issues are pretty much better on the web right now, but the issues are mostly minority languages. They still don't have. So for instance, unlike India in other countries, only official languages are supported, but if you are from a language that has like 5,000 speakers, right? Very few resources are there to make fonts and to make things. The second point is regarding displaying of fonts on the web, on web browsers. We still haven't figured out how to render languages with no spaces, for instance, like some languages like Camar does not have spaces. So when you try to render it on the browser or in an EPUB, then we'll see a lot of issues. So things are getting better, but there's a long way to go. Yeah, I agree. All right, thanks a lot for sharing your experience on this, Archie. I hope I'm getting your differentiation of your name, right? So I do want to conclude this by saying thanks a lot for sharing all the experience that you have of building such a large product. And it's great to have you on content web to discuss the localization aspect. We are going to do more of these sessions and some of these things that we spoke about, including font rendering, different languages and even the editor tools. And I'm quite interested in what is the editor tool? How does it make it easier for a person to translate in multiple languages, et cetera, et cetera? What are the innovations that either story we were team is doing or even outside that exists? All those sessions, we are going to plan out more sessions where we are going to dive much deeper. Like for example, this talk was very generic and we were not really diving deep into one particular issue or one particular challenge. And we hope to have sessions in the future wherein we dive into these particular challenges like the font rendering issue that you're talking about or what is the availability of Indic language fonts or even international fonts and all. Or sometimes even in content strategy, different issues like looking into the process workflows that probably Amna has shared or other teams have set into going through all the checks and checklists of quality and what are the things to watch out for? What are the things to check for? Those to my mind becomes more specialized for independent content teams or development teams or design teams, et cetera. So we will have more sessions in the future. The next Saturday, coming Saturday, we are going to have a session on AMP. More again, that is more on the introductory space that should you use the Google AMP technology? When should you use it? Why should you use it? What is the benefits and so on and so forth? Any of you in the audience would like to share some stories or would like to share your experience anywhere in the topic range of content web, as I said, please put in your proposals or if you want to hear more on certain other subjects, please put in your proposal in the content web series in Hasgeek, so hasgeek.com slash content web slash proposals. That's where you can go in and drop in a proposal or even request for a talk so that we can keep setting the series. We are doing a conversation every Saturday and today happens to be also an exception because we are doing two sessions today itself. So at 3 p.m. later today, Abhishek Rai, who is another person who's collaborating with us, is going to speak with Takshishila on newsletters, like what is the strategy around newsletters and how can you use that probably better and in different ways and learn about how Takshishila is doing things. So yeah, that's all we have for today. Thanks again, Suman. Thanks again, Amna. It was a pleasure talking to you. There's a lot of content you've given me. I might reach out to you again, talking about very specific things in a greater detail. I hope you enjoyed the session as much as I did. Yeah, thanks for giving this opportunity. Bye-bye. Yeah, thanks a lot. Thanks for spending a Saturday afternoon with us. All right, bye. Thank you. Bye-bye. Thanks, Havik, for making this so fun. Thank you. Thank you, bye-bye.


perfect schedule, because each day you're gonna feel like doing something. All right, I don't feel like writing today. I feel like speaking or today I feel more like writing. I don't really wanna speak to anyone. So give your time. Give options. I can do this or this or this and just do what you wanna do. What type is your phone? It's a Samsung A8, it's an old phone. Let's see, it's my 2018. That's my phone. Although I have YouTube channels and Instagram and all this stuff, I don't wanna spend a lot of money on a phone. So this phone cost me about $400. That's still expensive. But in Korea, Koreans usually spend about $1,000, at least $1,000 on a phone. So here I go, see, I didn't go to Jamba board, I went to this. So Koreans, they spend a lot of money on phones. My students have about a $2,000 iPhone and new, but for me, I just use a regular Samsung phone, $400, that's good enough for me. If you're not playing games on your phone then you don't need a expensive phone. Because usually if you're playing some high intensive games, you need a good phone, but what a waste of money to me. If you're spending so much money on a phone, it's such a waste of money, you know? Just, they're tools, not accessories. You use a lovely girl's voice for your alarm. That's the default voice. I think she's Japanese, I don't know. I mean, I don't know the names of those apps you're using for typing. Oh, this is just notepad, Windows notepad. And this is Jamboard. Anna recommended this. So thanks to Anna, she taught me Jamboard. She could have taught me about Jamboard, told me about Jamboard earlier, but she was keeping a secret. She didn't want to tell me for a long time. I don't know why. A would be fault. Now, listen to me. Freeze. Freeze. Freeze. Freeze. It's answer A. D. A, freeze and freeze. Free, freeze, freeze, freeze, freeze. It's answer A. It's answer A. D, it's answer A. D. B. It's answer A. B is threes. Threes. Finally. Thank you so much. I'll practice reading skills. Yes. That's a good, that's a good one to practice. Bader from KSA. That's Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Bader. Welcome. Bye, Wyn. It's B. Oath and Oath. It's B. Oath. Oath. Oath. And Oath. It's B guys. Oath. Would be, would be Oath. Excellent. Well, this is cut extra. We don't need that. All right. And in this final video, what does she say? Excellent. Great, guys. We're at 110. We're over. All right. Excellent. Great, guys. You now understand these two different con- Frida, even I don't like to waste money on phone, on phone my soon, I'll buy Samsung Galaxy S8. What's like a Samsung Galaxy S8 plus 28? Not yet. How much is that? That's released 2017. That looks like an older, older model. Excellent. Great. In an ending. So I get that from another video. This is the ending copy. Nine is paste. I got to add this little, this, this is the little subscribe button. Although pronunciation videos, they will definitely help you improve your English skills. So see you next time. See you next time. Are you about editing this video? No, there's still a lot to do in the video. You can go Layla. You don't have to stay. Nobody is to stay for this torture. And if you have a pan stylus with a writing board or a tablet, it's much easier to write on Jamboard. Yes. But I don't. What makes you get pissed quickly? Well, pissed can have two meanings in this case. Pissed means pissed off, which means angry. And pissed can mean drunk. So you got to be careful with pissed. Let's go to my Jamboard. Now we say pissed or we can also say pissed off, which only means angry. So he is pissed. That could be angry.  That only means angry. That this one doesn't mean drunk. It only means angry. He is pissed that can mean drunk. So your question, what makes you get pissed? What makes you get angry? What makes you get drunk? So if you were talking about angry, it's probably better to use pissed off. What makes you pissed off? What makes you angry? And what makes me angry are men who come into my WhatsApp groups and harassing the women.  If you're asking about drunk, every kind of alcohol gets me pissed. Pissed drunk. There's nothing to say for you. There's nothing to say for you. No, there is nothing to say. There is nothing to say to you. This video is about 12 minutes. Yeah, lots of little things to edit in tedious work. There we go. Edius, crossed us off. Michelle, do you edit videos even in the weekend? I used to, but Carrie got angry, so I stopped it. So when I meet Carrie, I don't edit videos. And Michelle, I was at the opening. Yes, Michelle, I'm surprised to find you yet. Hello again, Michelle. Welcome back. I hope you had a good day.  Is this? Yeah. Well, here, Anna, let me see if I can fix that up. I learned my lesson from editing videos.  That can make sense, but I got to confirm the meaning you're saying. When you're editing videos, you have no life.  I should stop editing and do something else. If that's the meaning, then that's okay. It's B, guys. Thrill. A.  That's what I need to do. Does not appreciate my effort for them. You know, I edit these videos, but in India and China, they just copy, download, use it on their apps, and I don't get they make more money than me on my videos because they just copy it. The world is ugly. Not fair. Layla tried to say something, but she is going to retype it because she wants to be perfect. Or she asked me a dictionary word and she doesn't, she knows, don't ask Robin a dictionary word. These videos are pretty big. And these videos, yeah, they're a little bit boring, right? But they do help pronunciation. I get emails, comments every day of people who really appreciate these videos, but they're not so popular. But people do watch them. Right, Layla, I'm off my work and I'm off to my work. You can't say I'm off my work. Can't say that. That doesn't make sense. I'm off my work. I'm off to my work. I'm going to work. Farida, you're, you're right. Oh, you made a big mistake, Farida. Let's fix up Faridas. You're, you're right. When first I joined your group, someone started bothering me and I said to him, stop, but he didn't. And just, I just blocked him. You have to report. You have to report these people to me. It is very important. You report these people. If you do not report these people, they will go on to bother other people, other women, other children, we have to protect other people. And in the groups, it requires 100% reporting. This is what makes the group strong. It also makes your society strong. If you're scared to report, that means there's going to be other victims. If you do not report these people, there are other victims. So I'm very angry when people don't report because you are hurting other people. If, if you don't report bad people, if someone sends you a bad message, you got to report them. If you don't report them, there's going to be more victims. So please report. Please. I have to beg people. Come on, help me, help me make sure the groups are safe. And especially it's strange because I'm going to stop editing to talk about this. Usually in my groups, it's Muslim, Muslim men harassing women. I don't know why. That could be just because most students are Muslim. It's usually Muslim men harassing women. And usually it's Muslim women who don't want to report. You know, other country women, they usually report immediately, but Muslim women don't report. They just stay quiet. So I've never been to the Middle Eastern countries, but it's really strange. Why are the men sexually harassing women? And why are the women quiet? They don't want to report. So it's a struggle I have in the group. These men harass the women and then the women, the Muslim women just ignore it. And you know, and because of that, there's other victims. So I don't know if you guys can help me out here. Why, why I have so many problems with Muslim men harassing women and why do I have so many problems with women not reporting the Muslim women don't want to report. So let me know your opinion on that issue because I don't understand. Third, third, third, third, throws, throws. Hey guys, Leila so I can use I'm off to something. Yeah, I think you asked that before Leila. Yeah, you I'm off to church. I'm off to the bank. I'm going to office. The same is going to Frida. How can I report to sir if you're in my group, send me a private message. I remove immediately. Anyone who breaks the rules in my groups, I remove them immediately. And when I remove these people, usually they send me a message. Oh, I'm sorry. I'll never do it again. No. No, I ignore anyone who says please welcome. Please put me back. No. I'm very strict. You got one chance to be a good human. If you are not a good human, you do not get a second chance in my groups. And I had I had, you know, I don't want to be anti Muslim, right? I don't want to I have I have Muslim friends, but I was so upset because I had Muslim admins.  So I had to get rid of those guys, you know, some of those guys I've known for years. And they're admins and I trusted them and they they broke the rules. They harassed women. It's just disappointing. Disappointing. Marianne Gilbert laughing, crying, crying with laughing because I'm upset. Free free. Come on, guys. I don't hear you. Free teeth, lip, free, three pronunciation is a physical problem. If you cannot pronounce a word that is physical problem, not a mental problem. If you're not putting your tongue or your your lips in the right place.  I already forgot. I gotta go back to YouTube live where it was my record video. my record video was six oh six hours 14 minutes this video is six hours 29 minutes this is a new record for my live video when am I gonna stop probably in the next 20 to 30 minutes I will stop let's see the chats all right see you Anna thank you for coming Karate I didn't report because I didn't want to bother you sir also not reporting bothers me and other people so much when you don't report I love that sticker though oh the on the jamba Anna is awesome maybe I'll keep that there forever every live stream I'll say Anna is awesome anyway good night Anna three three thought thought thought thought thought thought freeze threes freeze threes oh oh oh the last one he's gonna be this one third third froze throes I thought I did the froze throes death death frill thrill off my bed let's take a look you would say I'm off you want to use to the expression is off to off to to always means motion I'm off to bed I go to work travel to Japan so in this case to is always you're going in a motion somewhere so I'm off to bed I'm going to bed I go to work I traveled to Japan to bed to work to Japan that's where I'm going this is all screwy free three freeze threes there are a lot of new words in this video well yeah but Laila you don't have to watch so long do you have something else to do Laila I want you spending too much time in this video I'm pretty sure I'm going to be finished in about 10 minutes Andre you're still streaming I'm back how many videos have you already completed editing this is the second video I've been working on do you know today you did the longest video on your channel yeah I mentioned that about 10 minutes ago this is the record breaking video oh thank you Marianne you're very nice it's always good to have nice people around because there's so many bad people on the internet so I'm very happy that in my whatsapp and my learning English live that uh there's a lot of good people there not not many bad people in my groups congratulations to your Robin for reaching this number of your live stream so the time amount of time that didn't really matter what matters is you learn something or I finish my editing the time never matters f and th in English you should almost finish this video well when I this video is it's still not like the last thing I do on a video is the audio so right now I'm fixing up all the all the display everything you can see but what is the final edit is the audio so when I fix the audio of the video like this is the audio that's always last okay it's going pretty good great guys you now understand these two different continent sounds the f sound and the th sound th sound in English of course of course it takes let's see what's happening in the chat on jay you can leave camera and place the poster him off and then go to sleep so you can break the record for me yeah but youtube uh their maximum is 12 hours you can do a live stream forever but they will record I think they only record the first 12 hours so if I made a 24 hour video you live video they will only they will only put the first 12 hours on youtube so 12 hours should be the maximum I don't think I'll ever do a 12 hour youtube video we'll see maybe one day if I'm crazy enough crazy going back to fix my previous videos that's the symbol for sh is a really strange symbol she you want the same she you can leave I still have seven who's here who's still here Andre are you still here Layla is still here who else Marianne's still listening I guess I'll end in 13 minutes I will end this live stream in 13 minutes that will be seven hours if you can believe it sure sure sure that's the show that's the show six seven fv is okay five six sure me I already released this video but I'm gonna fix it sure that's the choice and let's get that up for today how is our cutie Esther teacher Esther's doing fine I talked to her yesterday she's fine I talked to her yesterday and last month Esther and I don't talk very much uh but she's okay talking too much I already released this video I don't know why I'm fixing it this video was released last year well let's fix it up a little bit and G I released this one too good job there I already did it there okay all right I think uh I did video eight and nine today tomorrow is video 10 that's a lot of videos eight watching now that's I'm getting more viewers as we get later 1044 wow that's late whiteboard yeah I didn't get it you know seven hours did I do seven hours of work not really but I guess I helped a few students today uh will I be back tomorrow yeah I think I'll do another live stream like this tomorrow and then Saturday no no I'm not going to do a live stream on Saturday Sunday I might I might do two live streams on Sunday I might do a live stream on the big channel the Shaw English online channel and I might I might do the Learn English live I might do one on Instagram too we'll see how I feel on Sunday uh I want to be next to know to know how you next to me to know how do I edit videos well don't edit videos Leila just Leila I think for your art Instagram is a lot better than YouTube because Instagram is a very visual picture oriented social media place so that's a good place to see your art YouTube just extra work you don't need to work curious about our age Esther I don't know I don't know how Esther is I never ask people's age I don't care people's age uh in in Asia the Asians I guess really care about age I don't care I don't even know I don't know any teacher's age on my my channel Fanny I don't know how old she is Esther I don't know Bill I don't know uh don't ask me their ages ages change too too much for me to keep track you know let's see anyone have any final English questions so I can practice using this jam board let's see if I put this all these oh no we don't want that I'm just trying to fix this if you're not a member join right now trying to click that line okay so if I did this and that board this jamba board doesn't move or jam board doesn't move very well for me that full screen so I'd have to work with this over here I don't know do you guys think do you think whoever's watching pay attention I'm asking questions do you think my picture is too small should I should I make or too big sorry should I make my picture smaller what size is this size better for my picture or this size or is this too big what do you guys think let me know in the comments pay attention answer Robin's question and move this here so I can see I gotta get a I gotta get a good size for my picture so is this image too big too big Layla what do you think about my writing for my questions because I write them without any assistance your questions are fine Layla I think you completed seven hours no there's about two minutes left Sonia sir can you tell me the difference between figures of speech similes and metaphors Sonia that's a great question but that's a little too big for now I'm about to end I'm tired seven hours and that's a complicated question maybe ask that Sunday Mary Ann Gilbert Mary Ann Gilbert are you watching from a phone or computer Layla maybe Esther is like me she doesn't speak a lot I think Esther speaks a lot you speak a lot Layla yeah is this a good size for the live stream maybe smaller is better let's see if we can make it smaller like if I did this smaller how's that guys is that better if I put me smaller this line is just difficult to click can't click that line come on line yeah I think I'll put this is a good is this a good size for me pretty can you tell me what the last topic of English grammar is I don't know I don't know what the last topic of English grammars Sonia okay bye I didn't answer your question so bye you know Sonia it's just people people are so entitled I get I get this every day people are entitled I don't have to answer anyone's questions if I don't want to you feel like a lot of people feel like I must answer their question no I don't I don't have to answer anyone's question you know if you're a channel member I might feel okay but you you don't support me why do you buy because I don't answer your question that means you're entitled come on Sonia do better than that I've been here seven hours and you're complaining because I don't answer your your you know difficult question let's finish that yeah we'll just leave it is entitled and let's check that on the dictionary entitled feeling that you have the right to good things in life without necessarily having to work for them or pay feeling that you have the right to good things in life without necessarily have to work for them or pay so people feel they have a right to whatever they ask for that's entitled Mario hello okay Sonia don't worry about that I'm just grumpy because I've been here seven hours and I can't move this line all right guys I'm gonna end the live stream thank you for being here and Sonia I'll answer your questions when I'm in a better mood I'm already getting grumpy please excuse but understand that I don't I've been here seven hours I get no money for this this is all free right so this is my day and I'll probably be back tomorrow so anyway