Also, we're a descendant of the Indigenous people of the Caribbean, who in the place where my family is from in Jamaica were completely exterminated by the colonialism European colonialism in that region. I'm now based in London and the core part of my work is working with black led archives in London. My name is Stan Rodriguez. I'm from the San Isabel Reservation in San Diego, California. Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Stan Rodriguez. I'm from San Isabel Reservation in San Diego, California. Our tribe is on both sides of the border, half in the United States and half in Mexico. And it's an honor for me to be here and I would like to also thank the native people from this land for allowing us to come into your land, into your territory. I would like to also thank the native people from this land for allowing us to come into your land, into your territory. As we say in my language, it makes my heart feel very good and we praise you. My name is Percy Lewis. I'm from the Yamba Band of Shoshone Indians, so I hold a dual citizenship in my tribal nation, which is in the traditional territory of what we know as the state of Nevada in the United States, as well as, of course, a United States citizen. I also would like to just thank the Indigenous people for having me as a guest on their traditional territory. And I currently work at the University of San Diego. I'm a tribal liaison, so I work with the 18 tribes, which include the tribe that Stan is from in our county. And then I also am a professor of practice in the Ethnic Studies Department. Thank you. My name is Tumisa Nindubani. I am South African. I speak Shitzonga. It is the second smallest language spoken in South Africa, and has been my passion for the past 10 years in terms of getting it online. Jeebeem, and good afternoon, everybody. My name is Tenmuri Saundarajan, and I'm here from the Organization Equality Labs, and we work with marginalized communities throughout South Asia. In particular, we work with those who are fighting against one of the oldest systems of oppression that have cast apart thine. And for me to say this is not something casual. As a Dalit woman, I'm here to represent the over 300 million Dalit people who survived this vicious system, such that every hour three of our people are murdered, two are raped, and three houses are burnt. And even though I'm here as an individual, I think for all of our panelists, I'm only here because of my passport, because I have an American passport. And there's many, many people who do this work with me that it doesn't feel fair that I'm the only one that can speak to this at this time. So even though I'm here, know that my people are here. And as we honor you and all your peoples, I think it's really important for everyone here to understand why it is so important for you and your peoples to be represented, to have your knowledge online. Percy, could you share a little bit of why you feel that it is important to have the Kumeyaay Shoshone Native Americans' knowledges online? Sure. Thank you. So for me, it's really important because I live in the United States, which is the settler colonial society. And honestly, I wasn't really engaged in online spaces. I mean, I used it, of course, but a couple of years ago, I really began to realize just how absent we were from that space. And I really saw it as a parallel, and we were in workshops a couple of days ago and somebody made the, you know, how there's these analogies of land and the internet. And so I really saw settler colonialism continuing within these online spaces, online spaces that have become so important to students and to, of course, the youth in our communities. Our reservations are very isolated, didn't have good internet access for a long time, but like the rest of the world now because of mobile technology, a lot of our youth now have access. And I want them to be able to Google Native American and not see statistics of alcoholism and suicide rates. I want them to be able to Google images and not see typical Native Americans in headdresses or things like that. And so I really have felt like it's my duty to engage in online spaces, and I'm fortunate because I'm able to do that through my position at the university. I have lots of workers, my students that are very happy to feel like the work that they're doing is contributing in some way, right? Instead of just writing a paper, they're able to actually engage in something that is going to go into an online space. So I've been very fortunate to be able to do that. I'm also in San Diego, which is the traditional territory, as I said, of Stan's tribe. So I am also a guest in that homeland. So I definitely privilege Kumeyi epistemologies, knowledges and perspectives in the work that I do with my students when it's appropriate, right? Because there's times as a Shoshone woman that it's not appropriate for me to engage in their knowledges. So I work closely with the local community to be able to do that. But I think as the internet continues to dominate and grow even more, our presentation this morning, those students are begging for Wikipedia, right? We have to be very cognizant of how we're not marginalizing folks, and then how, as marginalized people, we don't marginalize others. And so that has really come to the forefront for me. Thank you, Percy. Doomi, thank you for having us here and for helping make it happen. And as a fellow adventurer in the land of Wikipedia, you have a very particular and important way of thinking about these issues. Yes, so around 1900s, the people who speak the language that I speak, it was decided or not decided, it was thought that would have disappeared within 50 years. So a Christian missionary from Belgium decided to write about the Shitzonga language, the Shitzonga people, the tradition, the tribes and the day-to-day life. Unfortunately, what he wrote then in 1908 or 2005, it's still the most definitive resource available online and for academia about me. Yeah, so that's still the most definitive academic resource available about me, my language, and everything that defines me as in my culture. Unfortunately, 100 years later, it still is the case. So the only way I can combat that is to provide alternative research, resource, and make it available in my language so that my child one day will know that it's not only Henry G. Nutt's version of what Shitzonga is, but there's other versions of what he is through me. Thank you, Dumi, and most particularly, my sister. I would love to hear you tell us why it's so important for Dalit history and knowledge to be online. So I think that what's really profound when you think about wanting to tell the story of Dalit peoples, you really have to understand the profoundness of how knowledge has really been held in the power of those that have been uppercast. And within the caste system, you have several castes. Those at the top are the Brahmins, and those at the bottom are my people. We are the untouchables, and we're seen untouchable because we're spiritually defiling to other people. So from the beginning, knowledge was always a political construct in the subcontinent, such that if someone like me who was a Dalit was to listen to language, our tongues would be cut, and we would have lead poured in our ears. So to actually begin to take the grasp of knowledge back, it's really our way of basically going for epistemological justice. And I think that this is what was so profound about what you're saying, is that it's untenable to Dalit peoples to have to contend and make consensus with our oppressors for us to see an unmitigated experience of our world view and our world reality. And for me, what's amazing about doing this work as a Dalit woman is that Dalit women represent 0.1% of all journalists, intellectuals, and media owners within the Indian context. So for me to say, I not only want to be able to create knowledge for my people, and I want it to be unmitigated in the way that it's presented, is one of the most radical things that I can do to be free. Because ultimately, we all have heard that phrase that knowledge is power, but I think for us as many of the marginalized peoples here, we know that if we don't have unfettered access to our history, we can't fight for a future. And that's why I'm here. Thank you so much, Tanmarian, all three of you for your answers. And now that you've given us a little bit of grounding of why it's so important to do the powerful work that you do, I'd like to ask all of our panelists to respond to the next question, which is really, can you talk a little bit about what you've been doing so far to bring your knowledge online, including onto Wikimedia or other Wikimedia projects, but you don't have to limit yourself there, right? Feel free to speak in general about your work on the internet. And let's start with Kelly and work our way down, shall we? So thank you. It's been profound being here over the past few days in Azana in Cape Town, and I'm from London, which is still an imperial capital. And sometimes being in the context means that I often take for granted the bricks, the signs, the branding of colonialism that is all around me in London. So we're in a suite in the hotel until they were renamed by Wikimedia, we're called the VOC Centre. VOC is the Dutch East India Company, which was the major colonialiser in this part of the world, as well as the enslavers in this part of the world as well. One of the things that I do most often or I'm trying to improve is to look at how slave rebellions in the Americas are represented, both on Wikimedia and on Wikidata. So that pays tribute to not only the revolutionaries who led the fight to freedom and have been leading the fight for freedom, for human dignity, for hundreds of years in the Americas, Africans and African descended people. So making sure that there are records of those rebellions, records which so long has been suppressed. But also making more visible how the profits of the transatlantic slave trade fueled the expansion of European Empire, because oftentimes that is invisible. So most recently there's been a project run by University College London called Legacies of British Slave Ownership, when slavery was abolished eventually in the British Empire in 1838. They compensated, they be in the British government, compensated slave owners to the tune of £20 million, which in 1838 was 40% of the GDP of the United Kingdom. So that's hundreds of billions of pounds today. And those billions of pounds of compensation went into building the institutions of the United Kingdom, building the railroads, furthering colonialism in the East actually. So Trace and most of that money went to the most elite sections of British society who are still those elite families that are ruling today. So making those legacies visible is one of the things that I do both on Wikipedia and on Wikidata. First of all, thank you all for sharing, and it touched me in a lot of levels. I could relate to much of what you were talking about. My people, the Kumeya people, we're on both sides of the international border. We have been in contact with, well, we've had encroachment start since 1542 in San Diego. And it started with the Spaniards, and it continued on. And to give you the numbers of our people, approximate data about the population of the Kumeya at the time were about 80,000 to 90,000 in Southern California, northern Mexico. In 1900, there was less than 1,000. Today, there's 4,227 people who are identified as Kumeya on both sides of the border. And of that, there are 47 people who still speak our language. We say our culture is like a Askaya pot that has been shattered into many pieces, and these pieces have gone in all different directions. Each community has a piece of our culture, who we are. The international border has made it even more difficult for us to share our indigenous knowledge. One of the things that we started was Kumeya Community College, which is the only operational Native American tertiary institution in California. And we are working with the various communities. And we've done work with Percy and what you've been doing over at University of San Diego in order to develop programs, develop a pedagogy that's going to support cultural language revitalization. Bringing it out to our people where we have many hurdles we need to go through. On the United States side of the border, it's English that's spoken. On the Mexican side, it's Spanish. That's why I can speak English and Spanish. I go back and forth. And the thing is, with the United States government and the Mexican government until the 1990s, traditional knowledge, traditional religion and language were not allowed. It wasn't until the Freedom of American Religion Act was passed in 1978 that we wanted to change these things. And this is where Wikipedia can help us. This is where putting our knowledge in there can help us for all of our people to learn. Thank you. So I've been in San Diego for 18 years. As I said, my traditional territory is outside of the area that I'm living in now. And as an Indigenous person, I felt it was important that I be a good guest. And to me, part of being a good guest in a homeland is not contributing to settler colonialism, right? Which Patrick Wolf defines as elimination of Indigenous people, our physical selves as well as our knowledges and everything, our epistemologies. So it was very important to me that I work with the Kumi'ai people. So in order to do that, I needed to make friends with Kumi'ai people, be respectful, learn protocol. I've been fortunate to be working in their communities now since 2001. I've been good friends with Stan for quite a while. And then when I got to University of San Diego and started teaching, as a Native American, very few of us obtained bachelor, about 7% of us obtained bachelor's degrees. And then it gets smaller as you get up. Very few of us end up in the academic institutions. I am the only Native American faculty member right now in my institution. So there really is an erasure of us in the United States, which is mirrored in the online erasure. We might even be more present online actually than we are within our own society. So once I was in the classroom, I really felt that I needed to employ a place-based critical indigenous theoretical teaching style. So I have been really fortunate to be able to work with our Native students that we have on campus. And then also with the local Kumi'ai people. So some of the projects that I've done, as I said, all of my assignments now enter some sort of online space. So if they write papers, they go into our digital USD space that they can be accessed. We have them do podcasts. I make them transcribe their podcasts. Fortunately, there's good software now that helps them to do that. But that all goes into the online space as well as videos. And within the past year, I started editing Wikipedia, which I never thought that I would do, but has really been a great opportunity to partner with the local communities.  And then if you get down to Kumi'ai people, who are really leaders, have received awards, have PhDs, they're not present anywhere. So if you're a Kumi'ai student, as Stan said, 4,000, both sides of the border. So if you're young, there's not a lot of in the mainstream society that you're seeing. So then even when you turn to the online space, they're not present there either. So how do you dream? How do you dream to be a professor when there's not a Kumi'ai person that you can look up to who is in that position? That is in an online space, right? So I started working with Stan and with other Kumi'ai people to create articles and to write articles. And then my students started working with them to also write articles and to edit articles as well. And I think for my students, they feel such a sense of purpose now. And they meet with the community member that they're working with, whether it's to write an article on an institution or that person. And they're able to just really engage in the work and to really see how the theoretical frameworks that they're learning in the classroom, how that applies, right? Because they go into Wikipedia and they're shocked. I have them look at articles that are really poorly written, that are by non-native people written about us. And they cannot believe because they're like, hey, we read this article. Why are they saying this in this article? Don't they know that's not true? Well, they don't know it's not true because they think that they do know, right? Sometimes within the Wikipedia space, people feel like they're experts in lots of different areas when probably that's not really the case. So that has been a really great platform for me. So for me, what I have been doing can only be explained by taking you back a bit into the past. Into the 1900s, the 1885s or 1800s even, when we had the Anglo-Boa War and again then the Land Act, which deprived a lot of my people of land and most of them were moved into reservations and it became policy not to invest in those reservations in terms of health, in terms of education, even worse in terms of language and that has been perpetrated up until today where the lingua franca is supposed to be the language I'm speaking now and Africans and not my language and what that does, it actually erases the languages that we have and with the erasure of the language and the fluency into the language goes again to the knowledge that language holds. So I felt the pain that technically speaking it's the new South Africa from 1994 and my language has become official again after 100 years and technically speaking I should be able to walk into a bank and request to be served in my language and to do a transaction in my language but I can't. Technically speaking I should be able to go online and do searches in my language and receive results of whatever I'm searching for in my language but I can't. The only excuse that is there is that it's not online because it hasn't been translated and we don't have enough users and so on and so forth. So the only way I could change that was to make sure that it is online and the only place I could do that was on Wikipedia. So I started doing that 10 years ago and frustrated by small things things that look small to others but big to me that my language Wikipedia interface the whole interface was in English and it's called Shitzonga Wikipedia. So where's the interface so that I can translate that and that gave me a long rabbit hole of finding that the interface is not actually kept in Wikipedia but in something else called Translate Wiki go there get an account created start the translations get them adopted onto my language Wikipedia and come back and still find 12 articles after two years translating the interface and then having to start from scratch and try and work and get the knowledge up to the very first thing that I was looking for five years later and ten years later we're sitting at 600 articles it looks small because we had so much to do before we could actually start to work on the actual content which is putting my language Wikipedia's content online. So that's what we've been doing. So I think what's really incredible at thinking about how difficult it is to create knowledge in the face of a dominator culture whether we're talking about slavery and white supremacy or we're talking about caste apartheid and Brahminism is that it's like you're eternally being gaslit by your oppressor. So on top of the extortion of your land the extortion of your bodies the lack of like existential space that you have to be a free person you also don't get to have autonomy over the origination of your knowledge you have to constantly negotiate with your oppressor about facts. So I know one thing that we talked about is this like small battle which is actually a very big battle that instead of saying slave, saying enslaved there are so many similar contexts like that when it comes to Dalit knowledge online because we were not the first people online we were actually barred and are part of the next billion that are coming online. So when we come to infrastructure that's been created in Wikipedia primarily by those who are a part of upper caste we see so many inaccuracies so many sources that shouldn't be used they're partisan sources but also we just see violent iterations of history that diminish and distinguish our dignity and so to be people who want to live beyond atrocity we actually have to also start from scratch and that's not always possible especially in English Wikipedia because as we know we have to build knowledge through consensus but I think that for us like where we were last year we basically had just begun our process and what we did is we were very intentional in working with who's knowledge we mapped all of the areas of knowledge that we wanted to try to see if we could help create more evidence-based content around and then we also wanted to create a more diverse body of editors that actually came from marginalized communities that are struggling under caste apartheid but also have valid positions the same and I'm so proud to say that from the work that we've done our little small team of Dalit women editors have been able to host over 20 editathons across North America, Europe and India we've also edited more than 170 articles created 30 new articles 30 comments uploads as well as and most important created 100 new Wikipedia editors across many different Indian languages and I think that for me similarly it might feel small because you know I know it was in one session where people were talking about doing 20,000 edits in a month but when you think about the barriers of literacy structural oppression and in our case violence that we have to be able to tell our truth and tell our truth to the world in a way that our knowledge gets to be part of the commons that to us this is like an invaluable experience that we've been able to do this and there are times when we face fear we don't know if an edit that we do could lead to someone facing physical violence in the real world we don't know who's watching our edit lists and at what point we might be interacting with someone who might be reporting on us back to the government the act of telling our truth is an act of freedom but it's also one that we take with great risk and I think this is actually one of the biggest points that I wanted to make is that the question of tech equity is not really being discussed with real parity if one side is able to speak totally openly and the other side is speaking with the understanding that there could be a causality of violence that's not tech equity and I had to make a decision at this Wikipedia that I'm actually going to abandon my handle and create a handle that sounds like a white European male name because I'm more likely to be able to get my edits to stick and have my edits not be scrutinized because my position as a Dalek person is seen as partisan because I speak about caste apartheid that's not tech equity we should be able to be our full selves to be on the platform and be able to speak with the same relevance and the same representation as our oppressors but we're not at that place yet but I think this is why when we center the voices at the margins what we're doing is not just creating a diverse panel we're actually disrupting the entire logic of the space and that's actually what really begins the process of decolonization Thank you Thinmuri and Thinmuri has already begun to tell you a little bit about the challenges and the possibilities of the work they've been doing and I'd like to open that question up to others Kelly, would you tell us some of the challenges and hopefully some of the joys that you've had as you've been doing this work? Thank you In thinking about this question it immediately drew me to the words of a Trinidadian historian and writer called C.L.R. James and he said, those people who are in Western civilization who have grown up in it but are made to feel and themselves feeling like they're outside it have unique insights into their society I think very often, especially on the bigger European language Wikipedia, one of the things that is particularly touching me in this moment is hearing everybody speaking their mother tongue I have no mother tongue the African languages that came with the people to Jamaica were taken away from us so my mother tongue is lost to me and to a certain extent I still carry with me however a huge part of the Jamaican identity is identity and a commitment to rebellion and identity and commitment to disruption Jamaican music is known throughout the world the music of reggae is known throughout the world has been the music, the theme songs of liberation and of emancipation and still I remember the words of one of my elders in London who says our first job and these are also the words of Marcus Garvey and also the words of Bob Marley our first jobs are to emancipate ourselves and that is what we're, yes absolutely, yes applaud it our first jobs are to emancipate ourselves and that isn't necessarily an easy thing to do it's often times putting yourself in uncomfortable places so the strength of the margins is to disrupt the core and I see there being so much strength in working from the margins often times, especially when thinking about marginalised knowledge, marginalised communities, marginalised people the argument is to bring them into the mainstream how does the mainstream do or cater do the same work that people are doing from the margins and that isn't possible it isn't possible to necessarily for the core to necessarily take the causes of the margins forward but I think it is vital to be able to disrupt and subvert from the margins so Percy, your peoples in essence hold the land and trust that Silicon Valley is sitting on and much of technology, capitalism works from and yet you do this work with your students, with your peoples what are some of the challenges and joys you face? I'll be quick, I know we're running out of time joys, I'll start with joys my students love being editors they feel a real purpose in the work that they're doing they love the idea of others building on the work that they're doing they feel like they're correcting wrongs when they're editing poorly written content I have students that have continued to engage in editing which is so happy to me I teach in ethnic studies which is the study of race and migration in the United States so a lot of my students are what we call underrepresented students so they're able to also begin to see the gaps and knowledge in the online space from their own community perspective so that has been wonderful the downside is I think what other people have spoken to we get, our articles get flagged for deletion last semester I had a really upsetting experience where a student worked with a Kumeya woman who to us was very notable, had publications in her own name we had plenty of references I felt like it was a really strong article she had it in her sandbox and it actually got flagged so she had to go through the review process and in the review process her article was recommended to not be published because the person did not meet the academic standards of like an academic on Wikipedia even though she was the first in her tribe to attain a PhD from the University of Southern California Ford Fellowship a very notable person so I think that constant struggle of trying to claim that we belong in the space that we are notable that in some regards we are human and belong there as much as anybody else or have a right to be there has been the most discouraging part Thanks, Percy and we're short on time for all you brilliant folks so let's switch topics again and Stan we'll start with you this time because we'd love to hear from you again so you're all just coming out of two days of the Decolonizing the Internet Conference and we'd just love to hear if there's any insight or feelings that you've had coming out of that that you'd like to share with us all in this room For me what I got out of it was solidarity I got to meet some incredible people and sit down and talk and share and we had many things in common passions, the passions for the world to hear our story for the world to understand our knowledge and the help that was given with each other I found that really touched my heart and that's something that I will take with me wherever I go although my people are marginalized your people have been marginalized too your people, your people and from that we come together like I said one arrow can do many things but a bunch of arrows is unbreakable and if we come together we're strong and we continue to push our epistemology out so it does not die out that is true resistance and we have not been conquered and I just want to say that I am not conquered and I don't think anybody else in here is conquered either thank you Thank you Stan Doomi, do you want to speak to this one as well Doomi? Yeah, so a lot of things went through my mind while we were doing the Decolonizing the Internet Conference building up to it and actually being there with people from different backgrounds sharing the frustrations that they have and sharing my frustration and realizing that I'm not alone in those frustrations but then again realizing that my language Wikipedia is just one and there's still more language Wikipedia that I still refer to as small language Wikipedia and even that reference as small but connotations with it so breaking out of that cycle of accepting these labels and taking back the spaces is some of the things that I'm taking from the conference Tee Well, I think that there's kind of two big pots of thinking that I had the first was that I think that we very quickly kind of came to the realization that Decolonize was not a word that was expansive enough to really talk about what we needed at this moment of history and really what we're looking at where we are right now as a species this is really a time of deep conscience where we have to really look at do we value our fellow humans enough to let go of the baggage that is actually going to sink our planet? You know, so whether we're talking about cis-heteropatriarchy or we're talking about capitalism or we're talking about Brahminism these things that are limiters that come from older dominator cultures are really not the kinds of ways of world views and thinking that we need to really be able to work collectively as a species to solve the problems that we have before us whether it's climate change or the return of white supremacy and fascism the fact that we see democracies all around the world in crisis at this moment really should be a call to each and every one of us saying I don't want business as usual in fact maybe I don't want business as all because capitalism is part of the problem so the fact that we were able to talk visionarily in this conversation was really an important piece because I think oftentimes we tend to because of the way that we have been colonized and we internalize colonizer narratives we stay within reactionary frames and I think the conference is really a call to be visionary because when we're visionary we can actually build hope and that to me was like one big takeaway I got out of the conference and the second is that in many ways where we are right now we are at a juncture also where we're all very unclear as to like what makes a fact you know typically like you know from a scientific perspective I think a fact is something that is defined by evidence but as we've seen you know with you know the United States and we have you know the president who's like the trolling chief a fact is not simply made by evidence it's actually cemented by power whether that's political power economic power or people power we are in a moment that we have to decide as a community and as a species are we going to stand with evidence or are we going to stand with bad iterations of power and I think this is where the community of Wikipedia really has to look at itself and say are structures really allowing for democratic engagements of all communities at parity with each other or are we creating situations where we're replicating colonial or other dominator cultural models and I think this is the deep question whether it's in Wikipedia or other social media platforms we're grappling with as a species because we finally created technology that allows us to interact as a species and a lot of times it's not with equity but now that we're at the table how are we going to disrupt the logic of the whole game Thanks Timmarine So remember when I said that we were going to throw it to the audience for you all to have a chance to ask questions I totally lied we're almost out of time and so just wondered if Kelly and Percy wanted to have the last word insights, thoughts, feelings coming out of decolonizing the internet So out of the past two days that I spent with these glorious people I left feeling hopeful sometimes it can get very overwhelming not only having to grapple with the weight of history and the enormous task ahead in trying to redress how it redress the enormous amount of denial that comes along with telling that history because that often times that's what I'm doing what I'm looking at but it's empowering and emboldening to know that we are not going it alone One of the things I spoke about quite often that fuels me is a realization that I'm continuing the work I'm continuing the work of my forbearers in seeking emancipation This isn't something that I've come into that has been discovered that I've discovered myself in This is a path that has been laid for me generations back I'm on a similar path and hopefully always striving towards liberation, always striving towards emancipation Thank you, Percy And I'm going to do a plug So I'll just say that the conference showed me how much I don't know So I am looking for folks who can help me to figure out how to use the rules of the game until they're dismantled by the end of this weekend, I'm not sure But I really need people to help get my articles published and I've been burdening SICO with that as our editor But if there's anybody in the audience who's interested in ensuring that North American Indigenous knowledge makes it into Wikipedia I would very much appreciate speaking to you after this presentation, so thank you And that's a good call to action The one thing I want to remind all of us here as Wikipedians, as people who deeply, intensely, passionately believe in working towards the sum of all human knowledge These peoples, these communities that we have been talking about are not the minority of the world They are the majority And if their knowledges are not on Wikipedia and our sister projects then Wikipedia and Wikimedia projects are not representing the world So once again we invite all of you to share with us in solidarity the power, the passion the gift economy of being Wikipedians and Wikimedians Thank you for being with us today Thank you


Alrighty, so we have some exciting, I guess maybe news and an update and also the coasters are testing again. So Yukon Striker, Leviathan, Backlet Stunt Coaster, and Slingshot we're testing today. There's probably other rides in there testing. Cliffhanger is installed again and I believe it may have a new paint job. I'll have to wait to see in park for that. Nonetheless, super exciting, Yukon's running, Leviathan still hauling, Backlet Stunt Coaster's running really slow, but who cares? Anyways, nonetheless, as you saw, maybe I'll insert it right here. There were some construction happenings at the park, further proving that there is work going on the park for their 2022 and maybe 2023 additions. I can't talk about what the 2022 additions are right now. But we'll be updating you guys as soon as we are in the park on July 5th. So look for that update really late at night on July 5th or early July 6th. There's going to be so many videos coming out, Craig and I literally had to create an itinerary of things we had to film on July 5th. So it's going to be crazy. We're going to check out all the merch. We're going to do all these sorts of videos that you guys have suggested on our Instagram. So if you're not following us on Instagram, by the way, head on over to Amusement Insiders, plural on Instagram. And also join us on Discord where a lot of our discussion takes place. I'll link both down below. But nonetheless, that's all I really have to say right now. There is definitely things happening at Wonderland and I can definitely confirm there is something big coming in 2022. So super exciting, super awesome. Now a big doesn't mean roller coaster, so please don't get excited. Okay, I don't want to get your hopes up too much, but yeah. It's big, but it's not roller coaster big. So nonetheless, I think that's all we really have to say. I do have a video coming out. Sorry, I'm like wiping you guys are probably hearing that. I do have a video coming out soon about why I think Wonderland's investments will be pushed up. It has to do with the reservation system. It has to do with how not booked up it is compared to other Cedar Fair parks when they open. So I do expect they're going to need to pour some money into the park to draw people back post COVID. Anyways, that's all I have to say. Enjoyed the rest of the video of rides testing. I got both back lot, Yukon and Leviathan close up shots and all that. With the drone super zoomed in edited cropped images. But yeah, thanks so much for watching guys. Have a good one. Bye.


What's going on, Infinite Fam? Welcome back to another video. If you guys are new to the channel, make sure you guys hit that subscribe button and turn on your post notification bell. Leave a positive comment down below for a chance to get a what? For a chance to win a shout out in the next video. Guys, my baby girl is finally sitting. I'm so happy. I'm leaning forward very much. So if you see that I'm like so in the camera, I have to either lean all the way back or lean all the way forward. I can't sit up straight quite yet. Whatever makes you comfortable, babe. Whatever makes you comfortable. And you're starting to walk faster and all that too. I am. Can you use the bathroom? Woo, it's been a good morning, huh? Yeah, it has so far. I'm so happy. I'm proud of you. I really am. All right guys, so a lot of you guys have been asking us in our DMs, on the comments in the videos, aren't we able to have kids? Cause you guys know that Janice had endometriosis surgery, but I'm gonna let her break down everything as far as us having kids. How the surgery went, the whole nine yards because she actually did have a call with her doctor yesterday of him breaking down the surgery and basically saying what her future would look like and all the good details. So go ahead and tell them everything that the doctor said. So endometriosis is a very tricky thing. And especially when it comes to being able to have children, that was always a big worry in my mind. But I never made it known that it was a big deal because I didn't want people to know how bad. I was like afraid that I would not be able to have a child with Isaiah. So when I heard and I found out that I had endometriosis and I couldn't have children, I was freaking out because I always said never wanted to have kids as a joke because the children in my family are a lot to deal with. And I felt like everyone wanted me to be this like perfect girl. Hey she cannot have kids cause Janice is perfect.  Like Janice is like the baby first born. I always told her stop saying you don't want kids. Stop saying you're never going to have kids. Cause I'm very big and I tell her this all the time. I'm very big on what you say and put out into like the universe. It's gonna come back to you. So when she said constantly I don't want to have kids. I'm never having kids. So on and so forth. And then she ends up getting the news that she has endometriosis and that she might not actually be able to have kids. She kind of took it like a slap in the face. You were like damn. And then I gave her that look. I didn't say but I gave her that look like I told you to stop doing that. Stop saying that stuff. Things kind of took a turn but I'll let you finish off what you were saying. Yes. So fast forward. I already have gotten surgery and the chances of me having children were still very up in the air. They were very slim considering how far along you were.  The worst thing to possibly get my doctor actually informed me that he wished that I would have went to him two to three years prior because that's how far out this surgery should have been done. And so that was a little scary. And prior to going into my surgery I also spoke to my doctor and he said listen, like this year particular case is very, very difficult. I might have to call some people in because of how it's looking due to the MRI. Fast forward to my surgery. He said that the MRI didn't show everything that was going on in my ovaries. He said I had kissing ovaries. He said that it was also blocking off my colon completely. So at the last hour of my surgery he actually had to call in a specialist that to help me detach my colon. Completely and reattach it in a different way. And also I wanted to have the surgery done closer to my house. And he told me no, like this is the best decision to like go and do it in New York City because there's specialists there. Just trust me, just trust me. And I kept on pushing. I was like, no. You even tried to reschedule. And I got mad at her guys. I got so mad at her. I'm like why are you trying to reschedule? I felt like you were just like scared. You didn't really, that's what I felt. It probably is not the case.  And I'm like, Loki, I'm like getting mad at you because you're putting your health at risk and your fertility at very high risk. Everyone got mad at me. My doctor was like, absolutely not. We can't reschedule, you're crazy. He was like, you need to get the surgery done. I don't feel safe postponing it even like a day later. He already like made it farther out because I had to wait till my tattoo, I had to wait till it healed two weeks. So he was already pissed off that I got a tattoo and that like I kept trying to push it out further. He told me like your chances of having kids are like basically not existing. I hope you understand that. Why are you trying to push the surgery? It's not happening. We have the date, you can't push it. Fast forwarding to, sorry, this is like all over the place. It's just like- No, I feel like this is a good breakdown. Details that we need to hit to tell you guys. Now that my surgery is done and over with, the big question is, am I able to have children now?  Oh yeah. Yeah, you forgot that part. I don't think we were going, I don't know. You wanna say that part? It goes like I don't know. I mean, they were talking on the phone and he was giving her a breakdown of everything and all that and a biggest, one of the big issues when Dometriosis is that you may have to get multiple surgeries in your lifetime because it's something that keeps coming back. Now like she said, she was stage four which is very severe. It's the worst case you could get. We automatically before even going into the surgery, we knew that she was gonna have to get surgeries like every five years, give or take because that's usually what people have to. Yeah, I was prepared for that. Like I was prepared to just spend the rest of my life getting surgery, surgery, surgery, one after the other, scar after the other and I'm in my head, I was just prepared to have like kind of a miserable life to be honest. And I was like in that mindset and I just wanted to push it off as far as I can so that way October is my favorite month of the year because it's Halloween, it's our anniversary and it's the best weather here in Jersey and I just really wanted to take in like this last month of enjoyment and like just like have this to myself because I knew that in my future I was just going to have multiple surgeries and I probably won't be able to have kids. I was thinking so negatively, I was thinking like maybe Isaiah like would be better off with somebody else because I'm infertile and I carry so much baggage with all my surgeries. And if we couldn't have a kid in my head, low-key I was preparing for that like after we got out of surgery if he says we can't have kids, I was like mentally preparing myself for that because you know, obviously I do want to have kids in the future but if we can't, we can't. It is what it is. I can't blame you for that. I can't get mad at you for that or anything like that but my solution to that was get more dogs. We were just going to get more dogs. We were going to get a big dog. I wanted to get a pit bull. You could have got your Rottweiler and then maybe on a small dog for Bloop to hang out with. Right, Nene? The pretty boy. But yeah, so during the call, he broke down everything and was discussing her future and all that and before the call I told her make a list of questions so you can ask him for things that you might be uncertain about. You know like kids, future surgeries, stuff like that. So the first question she asked him was am I going to need more surgeries in the future? And his answer made her broke down and start crying. The answer to that question was is she going to have more surgeries? He said very unlikely, less than 10% chance he said maybe even less than 5% chance. Right there, Janice broke down, started crying because like how'd you feel at that point? It was like a sense of relief. Yeah, because like my whole life I felt like a burden and even more so now that I'm going to all this health stuff and so just hearing that news that I won't have to continue to get surgeries that like this is probably the only, now he said that there is a chance because it's tricky and I had to perform. And you think it happened? It's basically said it's not impossible anything can happen but he said less than 10%, even less than 5% maybe. She started breaking down right there and I'm not going to lie her crying tears of joy got me all emotional and me watery eyed. I didn't cry though but then the next question after that was am I going to be able to have kids or something like that? Did you ask that or I think he kind of like went into that. Yeah, he went into that and basically he said your chances of getting pregnant now are really, really higher. So having endometriosis it's still difficult. It might take a couple of tries but you know it's not a bad thing. But guys she will be able to have kids thank God. Having and I told her this and I got emotional with this part too. I told her I was like yo you did it.   I promise no I'm good, I'm good. I'm good.  No crying, no crying.  No. No, no, you gonna have a little baby boy or girl in the future. You're still loving. And you gotta protect them, okay? Thank you. Guys he was so protective over me the whole surgery he wanted to lay down literally on my stomach and I'm like can you not please? But yeah guys so the answer to that question is yes she can still have kids very big plus. She beat stage four endometriosis. She's not gonna need very, very slim chance, very, very slim chance of her having future surgeries. So everything out of this surgery as severe as her case was came out the best way it possibly could have. And for that you gotta thank God and I'm actually so happy that you didn't push it back anymore. Me too, like I feel like I wish I would have known about him sooner. I wish I would have went to him like he said years back but I didn't even know I hadn't done metriosis until three months ago. Like it's literally been three months that all this stuff has been going on. It's been crazy. It's been very, very crazy. Stress. On top of like handling life stuff like regular life stuff and you know it was a lot and now I feel like I could finally be normal, live a normal pain-free life. I know it's not gonna be 100% pain-free. I know it's not but it's gonna be so much easier. Let's talk about that part cause you guys know that she has stomach issues, you know like IBS, she's allergic to gluten and all that. Now he did say that after this surgery she should feel a whole hell of a lot better less back pain, less stomach pains. He did say it's not gonna all 100% go away if you have IBS, you have IBS. You know having endometrial surgery is not gonna take that away. But he did say because he had to detach her colon because things were getting a little messy up in there it basically freed up space because how swollen everything was inside of her basically the food that needed to get out it was like getting blocked from all the swelling. So it was causing like all that stomach pain because there was nowhere for the food to go. There was that's why the bloating was there. All that good stuff. But basically- Yeah and he- She's good now. He also told me that if I would have waited longer then I would have had very severe issues with my colon. Like he said like he touched on it but then he changed the subject cause he didn't want to think about it.  He was like good thing. Like we took care of that. Like you don't have to deal with that anymore. Your case was very, very difficult, very severe and a lot of bad things could have happened. Thank God nothing did. And the surgery went overall great. He was very confident about it and overall everything just went great. There's nothing else to say really. That is literally the end. No more endometriosis issues. Hopefully I feel free. We should celebrate.  And she used the bathroom today and she feels a whole hell of a lot better.  We gonna stop right there, we gonna stop right there. So honestly guys that's probably, it's gonna wrap it up for this video. We had a lot of questions regarding that type of stuff if we're gonna be able to have kids, future surgery, stuff like that. So we had to give you guys the rundown. A lot of people didn't actually know what kind of surgery she had. So that's why we had to tell you guys endometriosis and all that. But we covered that in the first video, the surgery day kind of shows the loyal ones versus the non-loyal ones. But anyway, that's gonna wrap it up here guys. If you guys enjoyed the video and you guys are happy for the future, happy for Janice. Make sure you guys smash that thumbs up button. Comment down below, sign positive. Again, your positive comments really helped us throughout this whole journey and this whole process. We love every single one of you guys and it's time for today's post notification shout out. So today's post notification shout out goes out too. 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Live from Orlando, Florida, it's theCUBE. Covering Grace Hopper's Celebration of Women in Computing, brought to you by SiliconANGLE Media. Welcome back to theCUBE's coverage of the Grace Hopper Conference in Orlando, Florida. I'm your host, Rebecca Knight, along with my co-host, Jeff Frick. We are here with Brenda Darden-Wilkerson. She is the new president and CEO of the Anita Borg Institute. Thank you so much for joining us. I'm so excited to be here. So this is a new position for you, but you've obviously been involved with the Anita Borg Institute for your career, at least been aware of it. So tell us a little bit about what this appointment means to you. Oh, it's so exciting. It's like coming full circle back to a tech career that I started, back to understanding the needs of women having been there, gone through the various stages of my career, and then going into education, helping encourage women into the career in tech, and now being able to advocate for them to be able to contribute at whatever stage they're in, whether they're just entering, or whether they're one of the women who've been in tech for a long time and are getting promoted into C-suite, or whether or not they went through traditional education pathway to get in, or if they learned on their own. So it's very exciting. And it cannot be as hard as the challenge that you just accomplished. I'm so impressed, getting computer science as a requirement in the Chicago School District. Yes, yes.  I can only imagine. It was, but you know, when you want something and you believe in it, it is amazing how you find other people who believe like you do, and you form a collaborative partnership that's really about caring about people. Right. Many of us had been in tech and we had had the challenges in. And myself, personally, I came about computer science accidentally. I went to college thinking I was going to go into medicine. So I was pre-med. And so I only learned about computer science accidentally. And of course, obviously it changed my trajectory. It's been my career path. And I was fine with that. Until years later, when we were working on making computer science core, I was doing some lobbying on Capitol Hills on a panel with a bunch of people. One happened to be a 19-year-old girl who had a story similar to mine. And I thought, how can this still be happening? Right, right. How can people not have this choice and have this exposure early in life so that they know how to choose to contribute to the thing that's changing the way we live every single day? So do you see it changing? We talked about this so many times on theCUBE. You know, that the core curriculum is the core curriculum that's been there forever. And that's a funny joke, right?  They're still reading the St. Mark Twain book, right? Do you see it changing? Because computing is such a big part of everyday life now. And it should be for everywhere. I mean, the fact that you got that through, do you see it changing in a broader perspective from kind of your point of view? I do, I do. Education changes slowly, unfortunately. But actually, when you look at, we launched Computer Science for All in 2013. And now it is an initiative that is national. The Obama White House embraced it and we were so proud and made the knowledge of going after Computer Science as something that all educators should really be thinking about as early as kindergarten for our students. It is making a difference in the lives of women. I've seen girls who many times would have been talked out of getting into a technical field by high school for the few that could trickle in and get into those one or two classes that used to be available. I'm seeing girls learn that they can be innovators as early as five, six, or seven years old. Okay, so I'm just waiting to see the world that they're going to create for us when all of them, because now in Chicago, they're required to have Computer Science to graduate. So that's everyone. So that's the key, it's Computer Science for All. And it is making a change. Not just for the kids, but the educators. I'm seeing women educators go, I could do this. I could get in and teach Computer Science. I could create something. That's exciting. So the New York Institute does so much good work around these issues from getting computers into the hands of kindergartners to helping women on the verge of C-suite jobs at some of the biggest tech companies in the world. Where do you want to focus as the new president? What are some of your special pet projects that you want to look at in the upcoming years? So I really want to think about how we dig into intersectionality. I want to, first and foremost, make vivid for more women of different backgrounds who may have traditionally been left out of the equation that there is an opportunity here for you if you want it. Okay, so that's about listening to them. That's about building additional alliances. That's about figuring out how to partner with organizations that we're all going in the same direction, right? So that more people that bring their unique lenses and experiences can help us create solutions, products, services that serve better just because they're there. So that's the first and most important thing. But then, of course, in order to do that, we have to figure out how to accelerate the work that it need to be.org does in helping companies to figure out how to solve any problems that they may be having about diversifying their workforce. So that's the other half of the equation. Do you see that the message is resonating? And this, I mean, you've been in the tech industry for, you're a veteran of the tech industry, let's just say, let's put it at that. But do you, I mean, just in terms of what we've been saying here too, is that it's a lot of the same stuff, a lot of the same biases.  I mean, where are you on the spectrum of completely discouraged, too hopeful and inspired? Oh, I'm hopeful.  Look around you at all these women who are also hopeful. I am hopeful for them. We are hopeful together. And I think many times some of the remarks or things that happen out there are just an indication that maybe we're getting closer to moving that needle. You know, sometimes that's when you hear from people, is when changes are being made. So I'm not discouraged at all. I'm very excited to be on this team. It's a very powerful team. And to create the coalitions that our women are counting on us to do. It's pretty interesting with a lot of the negative stuff that happens in the news. It actually has a really bright silver lining in that it kind of coalesces people in ways that wouldn't necessarily happen. I thought your comment kind of about overt, or I guess the last guess, overt kind of discrimination versus kind of less overt. It's harder to fight the less overt. So when somebody shines a big bright light on it, it actually, in a way, is a blessing because then it surfaces this thing. The stuff that's kind of, you know, it's lukewarm. It's easy for people to explain away, even if it's really obvious to most people. But when it is as overt as it's been, it's out there now. It's like, now we have something that we all have to deal with. It's not, you know, we can't be lukewarm and mealy-mouthed about it. Let's go to work and address this, because it's so obvious. So in that way, it's a silver lining. Right, right. But there's the culture, the culture war that we're dealing with this, what Melinda Gates was describing as the brogrammers, the hoodie guys, the sea of white dudes. Where we think all the great ideas are coming from. What is your feeling on how do we combat that? So, you know, here's an interesting perspective. I'm gonna call on the entertainment industry to put more images out there that are representative of what's really happening, right? So, you know, I have a sister that's a lawyer, and she's older than I am, and there was a time when you just didn't see very many images of women lawyers or women doctors. But if you watch television, you watch the movies, there are plenty of those now, and the numbers, people can be what they can see.  Right? The power of representation. That absolutely.  Okay, so Hollywood, are you listening? I mean, do you have any final advice for the young women who are here? And maybe it's their first Grace Hopper Conference. Yeah, yeah. What do you think they should do to get the most out of their experience here in Orlando this week? Well, first of all, I'm so glad that you're here, and I want you to be encouraged that there is a sisterhood, there is a community that cares about you, that has seen some of the same things, some of the challenges, and maybe you don't even know about yet. But together, we can make a better world. We can be the change agents that we already are, but on a such bigger scale.  Those are words to live by. We need to get a bigger, we need to get a bigger boat though, you need to take that deeper. I know, that's right, that's right.  Okay, that's right, that's right. That's a new solution for you, Maro. Great. Well, Brenda, thanks so much. Thank you. We're so excited for you and to be here at Grace Hopper again. Thank you so much. I appreciate being here. Okay, thank you. I'm Rebecca Knight for Jeff Frick. We will have more from Grace Hopper in a little bit.


By Hyundai, we take a look at the game summary here. Johnny Burrito goes nearly six innings, allowing four hits, those two runs, strikes out two and walks to Josh Donaldson with the solo homer, all the Yankees offense. And that was the focus with Meredith Murakovic's first question with Aaron Boone. Aaron, slow night for the offense tonight. And just what did you think overall of the bad quality? Well, first off, I thought Blackburn did a good job and we knew he was throwing well pretty well coming in. So it didn't make a lot of mistakes. Obviously, JD really got into a hanger. I think Giancarlo got one with the runner at second the first time. He got, I thought, a good pitch to hit there with two strikes and swung through it. We had a couple chances, but again, just not creating enough opportunities for ourself to break through. And we got to get a little more consistent. You've spoken a lot about Donaldson over the last couple of days, just to see him get a hold of one, hit a mistake pitch like that. What could that do for him moving forward and potentially jump starting in a little bit? Yeah, I mean, it's definitely good to see him really get into one, and especially in a low-scoring tight game. So look, I think he's in a pretty good place with where he's at. And he's got a lot of confidence because he's capable of that right there. So yeah, I mean, hopefully it is something that kind of jump-starts him this week in a little bit. But we all got to pull our weight and get it going a little more offensively. Who'd note Anthony Volpe tonight with those hits and using his speed to get that last one? Yeah, last week, I mean, he really dig in. Anthony's a lot of good at bats. He's been getting more hits, but hitting the ball on the nose. Even his first A-B today lines out to the second baseman. So I feel like he's making some good, solid adjustments. So it's good to see him trending, I feel like in a good way right now. Aaron, I think it was in the seventh, fifth actually, the seventh Volpe was stealing Trevino swung at the first pitch. Does he need to give him more of an opportunity to steal a bag there? I mean, it's one where it looks like a good jump. That's one of, if you recognize that as a hitter, you'd like to see him hold off there. I don't know if the pitch up, he was trying to check his swing and he just, he got a piece of it. But it's one of those, if you do, and you don't always do it, but if you're as a hitter, if you are able to see that kind of a jump, you'd love to see him be able to steal that base there. What did you think of Brito? I thought Johnny was good again. Two runs there into the sixth inning. He did his job. I thought he again acquitted himself really well and gave us a chance to win a ball game. Frustration level watching this off for the last couple of weeks. I don't know. I mean, it's like, no, this is part of it. It's crying time. We got to get some guys going and we're all part of that. So, I don't know if frustrations are like, we know we have a higher standard and expect more and know we're gonna be better, but we're going through it right now a little bit. Overall this month, we've had a few guys that have gone through some struggles, but I wouldn't call it frustration. I'd call it like, this is, get to work time and how do we get guys going and that's on all of us. Erin, you talk about that high standard and guys pulling their weight and you look at the month of June, is it almost head scratching to you knowing some of the talent that's in that lineup that they haven't been able to put it together and click consistently?  So anytime you go through a long stretch, where you're having a hard time scoring runs, look, again, we know what's gonna happen, whether it's for a couple of weeks here or there or you're gonna have your upswings and downswings, but knowing what we have going out there, I know what they're capable of. So we got to keep working to get them to where we need to be because we know we're capable of scoring a lot of runs. What was your argument with Gino Ney on the accounting play? Well, the ball came out. So unless you deem him circumventing the rules to do that, like life happens and you shouldn't get penalized for dropping a ball, like that should, to me, that should be a reset unless you think Tommy's doing it on purpose, which clearly he wasn't. So that's, you know, that's something I'll ask the league about, but I don't think, I mean, I've seen that happen before, you know, where whatever something happens that's on accident that stops, should stop the clock in my opinion, but I got to find out. I got to get clarity on that. Carl, I got that 3-0 count in the eighth and I wasn't able to take advantage. Do you feel like he's still kind of working through some things in the playoff? Yeah, we've said that, you know, and he said that, you know, so I thought his first swing or his first at bat, he got the right swing off on a ball he hit in the air, like, felt like he was on time for that. And then in his next at bat, again, I thought he got a good pitch to hit there. Might even been on 3-2 with a runner on second, he got a hanger. And I felt like, you know, just from the side, he was on time, but he swung through it. That, you know, that's a pitch when he's going well that's in the seats. So, you know, he's working to get there. I do feel like he's closer than where he was three, four and five days ago. But no, he's working to get there. Early on in that discussion, the manager talked about Anthony Volpe, Jack, and he was a guy that you wanted to see start to turn things around. He did that tonight, had three hits, first three hit game of his career. It could have been four, hit the ball on the screws too, and it was right at Tony Kemp. Right, so in all four at bats, he hit the ball hard. And I think the thing to notice about three of those at bats is hitting the ball either to the center of the field or to the opposite field. Yankee hitting coach Dylan Lawson has talked a lot about players picking up the ball earlier out of the pitcher's hand. That pitch recognition allows you to decide what you're going to do when you're at bat. And I could see with Volpe trying to go the other way tonight. Of course, he got his final hit by using his speed, his legs to keep that game alive. And Chris, you talk about hurdles as a young player. 203 might not sound like much. That's what he's hitting right now. We're after a 12 for 35 stretch. He had not had an average as high as 203 since May 24th. So on a night where the Yankees are going to lament that they had no offense and that they lost to the A's, one thing they can grab out of this game is that Volpe seems more comfortable at the plate and is definitely getting better results.


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Have another cup. Another nice hot cup. Yeah, it's that special cream that makes it taste so good. So a guy named Joe brought you, huh? You come up here from Joe's Place. Joe's Place. Here it is. Ain't that pretty? Yeah, that's right. It comes right out of the walls. Singing Walls. We got hot and cold running water here in Singing Walls. Have another cup. And a little more of the extra heavy cream. Well, lie down. Take a little snooze. I'll be right back. Look at you. It's blood. Blood all over your shirt. Oh, him? Oh, he's all right.  Put the key right in your pocket so you'll know just where to find him. Sure, I'll be back. I'll be back in just a minute. You've been knocking at your door the longest time. You've been making a dream or something. Yeah. Gee, what time is it? It's way afternoon. You came in pretty late. I did, huh? Toss me my bathrobe, will you, sis? Don't you know what time you got in? No, not exactly. Oh, Tommy, I know it's tough not having a job all these months, but the kind of people you're going... Oh, my head.  Yeah, yeah. They bought me some coffee and... Coffee? Who did? Where was this? Oh, sis, it's no alibi, but I don't remember where I was. Only just now I seem to be dreaming about it. About what? About last night. I could hear you banging on the door all the time I was dreaming. And then it seemed as though I wasn't dreaming at all. I was remembering a lot of things. What sort of things? Well, I was all mixed up. There was a guy with a kind of frog voice that kept giving me eats and coffee. And I was sort of floating. And there was a place that music came out of the walls.  Yeah, it was a pretty scary dream. If it was a dream. Well, you get dressed and come on downstairs. Here, I'll get you out a clean shirt. I'd better wear the old one. I've only worn it once. But it's all messy. Yeah, it does look kind of... Mildred. What? My shirt. Give me it. Now what's the matter? Look, Mildred, that's blood. Well, I guess it is. I know it is. Just like it was in the dream. Oh, Tommy, don't be silly.  But I didn't. Look, there isn't a scratch on me. Well, then you got in a fight. Maybe. What else could it have been? That's what I'm trying to think. Well, stop thinking and hurry up and get dressed. Oh, my goodness.  Trousers on the floor here. Oh, dear, everything falling out of the pockets. I'll pick it up. You get dressed. Thanks. You didn't come home with much, did you? I didn't have much to start with. Well, I'll pull you all up here on the bureau. 25 cents in change in your keys. Now hurry, will you? What did you say? I said hurry. No. I said I put your change in your keys up on the bureau. Keys? Yeah. Mildred, I only have one key. Well, there are two there now. I know. Let me see them. Here. One's the key to the front door. But the other one? It doesn't belong to any door in this house. It's the key to the closet. What closet? It wasn't a dream. Tommy, what are you talking about? Mildred, you better call Denny right away. But he's on duty. I know, I know. But get him over here right away. Tommy, what is it? Last night. I think I killed a man. Tonight for Suspense, Roma Wines are bringing you a star, Mr. Van Johnson, whom you have heard in the prologue do the singing walls tonight's tale of suspense. In many foreign lands, wherever wine connoisseurs gather, they enthusiastically praise the distinguished character of Roma Wines. Such praise of Roma Wines in foreign lands can only mean that they are truly magnificent in quality. Roma Wines' excellence is due to a unique combination of California's perfect soil and climate, from whence come the choice Roma Wine grapes, plus age-old wine-making skill and modern knowledge. These combine to make Roma constant in quality, uniformly fine, unexcelled in value. Tomorrow, discover for yourself the delightful Roma taste and goodness enjoyed by more Americans than any other wine. 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What's the use of having a brother-in-law who's a cop if he can't help you once in a while? Now, come on, how much do you remember? Just what I've told you. Just like it wasn't a dream. Only it wasn't a dream. There was this guy, Joe, just some guy I'd known from someplace out on a way that I met on the street and he took me to the party. And the guy with the frog voice began giving me eats and coffee, had a lot of coffee, and then everything got confused. I was in some place with the Singing Walls, some harmonica playing or something. That's where the closet was. What about the guy you... the dead guy? All right, first he wasn't there, and then he was. We sort of slumped over in a big armchair. And then frog voice put him in the closet? That's what I remember. And then he left. Then I suddenly seemed to realize that the guy in the closet was dead. That's when I get out of there. I don't know how, I don't know how. You don't have any idea where it was? No, I don't even remember where the party was. And you've never seen any of these people before? Except this guy, Joe, who took me to the party. And that's all I know about him. Just a guy named Joe that I knew by sight from someplace. But I don't know where or his last name or anything. Whew, that's not much to go on, is that kid? Not much. A guy named Joe singing walls in a closet. And another guy with a froggy voice. Oh, I'd recognize him or his voice if I ever saw him again. Tommy, you're in a jam, kid. The way it looks now, there's a dead man in the closet somewhere in this town, and you killed him. Maybe you didn't. And if we find him before somebody else does, maybe we can figure out what did happen. But the way it stands now, kid, you're it. Yeah, I know. We haven't got much time, either. If the place is an apartment, they've probably already found the body, and I'd know about it. If it's a hotel, they check the guest out at six o'clock. That gives us about four hours. Four hours for the murderer to find the guy he murdered. It's kind of crazy, isn't it? Tommy, Tommy, you know how I feel about Melrod.  You know I'll do everything in the world I possibly can to clear you. Sure, Danny, I know, I know. But I'm a cop, Tommy. If you did do it, you know I'm gonna turn you in, don't you? Sure, I know that, too. Okay, kid, okay, now let's start from the beginning. What about this guy, Joe? But I don't know anything about him. You know his name, you know his face. Now come on, think, Tommy, think. Trying to. Oh, if I could only remember. If I could only remember. Yeah, you come up here from Joe's place. Joe's place. There, you see, Tommy, when you remember that, you told me where Joe is. I did. Yes, sure, you see that sign over the restaurant? Yeah, Joe's place. Joe's place, Tommy. You were playing with bad boys last night, and this is where bad boys hang out. So? It all clicked when I remembered you said that the guy with the frog voice asked you if you came up there from Joe's place. He didn't mean where Joe lived or anything. He meant this place. He thought maybe you were one of the boys. How did I ever meet this Joe? I've never been here in my life. He runs another place, more respectable, kid. That sort of cover about three blocks from our house. The grotto. Hey, that's right. Remember now, if my hunch is right, Joe's going to be plenty surprised when he sees you walk in there. Me? Walk in there? Now don't worry, kid, don't worry. You just walk in and sit down at the table. If you're not out in a couple of minutes, I'll know that you recognize the guy and we're on the right track. I'll come in as though I didn't see you and go into the phone booth. Then what? Then we'll see, kid. Okay? Okay. Oh, oh, one thing more. If he offers you anything to eat or drink, take it. Sure. Well, here goes. What'll it be, Mac? Iron's juice. Hi, Joe. Hey, what are you doing down in this part of town, huh, kid? Oh, I had to come down and see a guy. I didn't know you had this place. Just a little sideline. It's where I first started you, now. Sure. One orange juice. That'll be 10 cents. Oh, no. You got to have a little something to eat on me, kid. What do you have? Coffee, at least, huh? Well... Nice hot cup? Yeah, okay. Coffee for the gentleman, Larry, with the extra heavy cream. Understand? The extra heavy? Sure. I'll take tea with lemon.  Yeah. Yeah. Where'd you disappear to? I was looking all over for you. Well, that's the funny thing. I don't even remember. You don't, huh? Well, well. Here you are. One coffee with extra heavy cream. One tea. Ah, this'll warm you up. Wait a minute. Who are you? Oh, this is my brother-in-law, Denny. This is Joe. Say, you must have got these mixed up. You never drink coffee, Tommy. You only drink tea. Yeah, that's right. Here. Here, you take the tea, give Joe the coffee, and I'll take the orange juice, huh? I don't like coffee. Never touch it. Okay, swell. I'll take it. Thanks. By the way, Joe, you haven't got a little bottle that I could pour this into, have you? Hey, who do you think you're kidding, bud? I'm from headquarters. Here's a badge. Now, wait a minute. I didn't know that... I suppose you don't know what I'd find in this coffee if I took it down to be analyzed, either. Now, look, I don't want any trouble. I've never had any. They'll tell you at headquarters. Now, if it's a matter of those... You can't buy your way out of this when Chum, I want talk and I want it quick. What kind of talk? Where did you take Tommy last night? Oh, it was just a little party. A card party. A card party? Just coffee and cake? Yeah. And they slipped things in people's coffee there, too, huh? Well, I don't know anything about that, honest. Why, I hardly know the people. Who's the guy with the frog boys? Boys? I don't know any guy with a frog boys. Now, look, I don't want no trouble. They'll tell you at headquarters. Listen, there's a narcotics wrap on this for somebody, and it could be you. Come on! Come on! Where was the party? Courtney Square West. Number 75. Some people named Sorrell. Come on, Tommy. You're coming too, Joe, just in case. Sorrell. AJ. Does this look like the place, Tommy? Yeah, it looks like it. Could be. Everything's been so confused since last night. This is it. It better be. Oh, Mrs. Sorrell. Yes? I'm from police headquarters. Oh?  Why, no. Come on, Tommy. You too, Joe. Oh, by the way, you two know each other? He... Well, his face is familiar. I think he's been here a couple of times. We play a lot of cards. All kinds of people wander in and out. Is that what the trouble is? It might be. You know anyone with a froggy voice? No. Not that I can remember. Okay, let's look at the apartment. Well, this is the hall, of course. And here is the living room. Joe, you stay there in the hall. And you better be there when I get back. I'll be here. So, this is the living room. This is the bedroom. It looks kind of messy now. See anything? No. And over here is the kitchenette. I see. And that's about all the rooms to it. Denny, that closet. Oh, there's nothing in there. It's just a lot of odds and ends. Open it. Well, it's locked. All right, unlock it. I'm not sure where the key is. Then, lady, you'd better find it. Well, I'll try. Is this it, Tommy? There was a closet like that. And a window just over there where that one is. And the armchair and bed. Don't you remember? I can't, Denny. Give me that key. Give me that key. Wait a minute. Here she comes. I think this is it. Try it. It sort of sticks sometimes. I'll help you. There it comes. See? Just a lot of old junk. Mm-hmm. Come on, Denny. You sure? Sure. Come on. Well, I guess that's all, Mrs. Harrell. Thanks for showing us around. That's all right. Hello, Joe. You're here. You don't mind if I stay here and visit a while, do you? No, I guess not. Well, goodbye. Bye. Thanks again. Goodbye. Good luck. Copper. Oh, I'm sorry, Denny. Well, it was a try. What do we do now? I don't know, Tommy. We found Joe. Now, what about those singing walls? Come on. Think, Tommy. Think. Pretty music. Do you hear it? That's right. It comes right out of the walls. We got hot and cold running water here and singing walls here. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Yeah? Listen. What? That's it. The singing walls. The music I heard last night. You sure? Sure. I remember the piece and the harmonica and everything. It's coming from right around here someplace. Denny, it's coming from their apartment. The one we just left. Come on. This must be the place, Tommy. The closet, now the music. They must have been pulling a fast one on us. Well... All right, all right. Quit stalling. Come on, Tommy. Stalling. You heard me. You two brushed us off pretty slick, didn't you? Listen, I don't know what this is all about. Where's that music coming from? Well, from the radio. The radio? Yes. I turned it on to the kitchen just now when I started to fix dinner. It's a little portable. In here. See? Okay. I don't get it. What do you mean by bussing? Oh, skip it, skip it. Well, Tommy, here we go again. I don't care. That was the music I heard. And that's the same number. It sounds like the same band. Hey, wait a minute. Now what? Where's your phone? On the desk. Denny, look and see what stations that's coming over. It's WBTA. Thanks. Hello, operator. Get me station WBTA, a radio station. I don't know what number it is. Tell her it's a police call. Yeah, it's a police call. Thanks. I may be wrong, Denny, but I got a hunch. Hello? WBTA? What's that band you've got on now? I don't care if it's an electrical transcription. What's the guy's name? What? Turn off that radio. And what was that name? Yeah. Oh, where can he get hold of this guy? Where does he hang out? I see. Five nights a week. That include tonight? Thanks. Well, he's a small-time band leader. Harmonica Hallen is harmonious, he calls himself. And he plays at a place called the Silver Slip right on the concourse. Come on. You better get on that phone, Joe. Ah, yeah, dumb. You would have to turn on that radio. There's the Silver Slip right over there. OK, let us out here. Right. Here, here you are. Hey, look familiar to you around here, Tommy? I'm afraid it's a bum steer, Denny. Look, kid, do you know what time it was when you heard the music? It was just night. That's all I know. All right, all right. They don't play recording so much at night, but they're all bands. And the Silver Slipper isn't on the air. So maybe you were out here some place and heard the band itself. Yeah, maybe. I know it's kind of a long shot, kid, but right now it's the best we got. Come on, let's case the joint. OK. Well, it don't look like there were any rooms with closets in the Silver Slipper. Denny, look, right next to it. Yeah, a hotel. That would make sense. And the shape you were in, you probably would have signed your own name, too. Come on. By the way, by the way, what time have you got? 10 to 6. 10 to 6? Our bed line's getting pretty close, kid. Yeah. This better be right. Please. If I could only remember. Well, there's the clerk, Lucy. Say, lady, you got a guy named Tom Cochran here. Tom Cochran? I don't know. Oh, it's all right. It's all right. We're friends of his. I'll see. When do you register? Last night. Oh. Oh, yeah. Sure, here he is. Tom Cochran and Ben's oil. Yeah, yeah. Room 209. I don't think they're in, though. Oh, no? No, I've been ringing them to see if they were going to check out by 6. I was just going to send somebody up. Shall I ring again? Oh, no, no. We'll sort of surprise them. OK, write up those stairs. They've got to be out by 6 and pay for another night. Yeah, yeah. We'll take care of it. Let's go, Tom. Denny, did you see that handwriting on the register? Yeah. It was mine, all right, Denny? This is it. Tell me one way or another. Yeah. Here we are, 209. Don't put your hand on that doorknob. Fingerprints. Use your handkerchief. Locked. I got some keys. It's an easy lock. Here we go, kid. Denny, this is it. Close that door. That's the closet. Now, give me your key. Here. You better hold my gun on that door. Just in case. All right. Denny, look out. He was just falling. He's dead. Oh, gee. This is... You remember now? Yeah. Yeah. Let's have a look at him. Stabbed. And here's his driver's license. Benjamin Doyle. Denny, give me it. Hello? Yeah, yeah, we found them all right. No, no, they're going to keep the room for another night. No, there's nothing we want. Well, we're in for it now, kid. Denny, look at the floor over there. A clasp knife. Covered with blood. That's what did it, all right? Yeah. Hey, I know, I know. It's mine. Tom, why didn't you tell me? Honest, Denny. I didn't even remember. I'd lost it until I saw it. They just now... Fingerprints all over it. As clear as they... as though they'd been made in sealing wax. Right-handed, aren't you, Tommy? Uh-huh. Let me see your right hand. Well, it doesn't take an expert to read these. Those prints are yours, all right? Yeah, I guess they are. And you still don't remember? Honest, Denny, I don't. Can you think of any other explanation? No. There's the guy with the frog voice, but I must have just dreamed him up. I don't know, I don't know. Well, kid, I hit it all you could, Denny, but don't feel bad. We can plead insanity or something. Maybe we can prove you were doped. Maybe. You better call headquarters, Denny. Let's get it over. All right. Where are you going? I don't want a phone from here. That clerk will listen in. There's no use getting all the wolves on us before we have to. Aren't you afraid I'll... No, no. I won't. I'll, uh...  You won't have to go in the wagon. Thanks. Oh. You better let me have my gun, huh? Oh, yeah, sure. I'll be back. Lie down for a couple of minutes, kid. You look kind of sick. I am. Remember. That's the idea. Take your little snooze. I'll be right back. Look at you. Blood. Blood all over your shirt. Him? Oh-ho-ho. He's all right.  Lock the door. He right in your pocket. Sure, I'll be right back. Be right back. Be right... You! Yeah, yeah, me. What are you gonna do to him, Froggy? Get him in the other room until his copper friend misses him and starts looking. Listen, I don't want to be in on anything like this.  You're in it up to your neck already.  Come on, get up. Okay. And get going. Get going up the hall. Open the other door, Joe. Yeah, sure. All right, get in there. That the guy, Froggy? Yeah. Listen, Froggy, this don't look so good. There were people who knew you were getting ready to give it to Doyle. Sure, sure. That's why I framed this guy. All that trouble I went to doped him and brought Doyle in there while he was out trying to decay and bloodied him up with a knife in his hand. Heh. I still don't see how he ever come to one time. Yeah, but he did. Yeah, so what? So we frame him again. The music. The music. You like music, don't you? You're pretty sweet about music, ain't you? Well, for your information, that's harmonica hell rehearsing for the night. And in this room, it comes through the window on account of the riser window. But in the other room, it comes through the walls on account of the rain, no window. Catch on. Better close the window, Joe. Wait a minute. I do like music. Do you mind if a guy in a spot like I am hears a little music? What about it, Froggy? Sure, sure. Leave it open. Let's have music while we work. It'll cover up the noise if he makes any fuss. Oh, what's the new angle?  We'll leave the gun beside him and plant some of Doyle's stuff on him. I got it. Well, get going, get going. Tie him up with a handkerchief and he's out in the corner on him. He's sick. See, he's sick and we're taking care of him. Okay. Hey, where's the car? It's around the back. Around the back. Nobody will see us going out that way. Are you ready? Yeah. Okay, take a look at the door. Okay. Hold clear. Yeah. Well, let's go and lock the door after we go out. Okay. Down the hall to the back stairs. All right. Hey, hey, what the?  Cover them, you guys. I got them. Hey, what is this? You'll find out.  I heard the music, kid. I hoped you would. I asked him to leave the window open. I heard the conversation too. Enough. Okay, boys, okay. Go on, take him down. All right, come on. All right, don't shout about taking all right out. Who are they? Graziani's a mobster, kid. Doyle was one of his boys who double-crossed him. How are you feeling? Okay, I guess. It was kind of close. Yeah. All the way around. Yeah. Look, kid, I... Oh, skip it. I'm sorry, Tommy. Honest, I am. I thought you did it. 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Y4-9 Season 5 is the best season in a long time, so Chapter 2 Season 5 released a couple days ago, but I've been playing it and it really doesn't feel that bad. What changes made it my favorite season ever since Chapter 2? The first and most obvious one is the new map. Well, it's still a Chapter 2 map, but I really like the OJ vibes. Saugty Towers makes Tilted feel new again, like it was meant for Tony Tony. I'd say it's one of the best versions of Tilted, better than Neo Tilted and Tilted Town, but even though it isn't an exact replica of the one from Season 3 and 4, it certainly gives me the OJ vibes again. The other location is the Zero Point Zone. Now what's so good about this area? Well, it makes me feel like Dusty Divot. They actually have a Dusty Depot on the map again too, which is always a good thing. The rocks in the Zero Point are similar to the ones in Dusty Divot that makes you jump faster, but now it makes you jump faster when you double jump. Other new locations are Colossal Colosseum and Hunter's Heaven, which I really don't care about because I'm used to the new locations they add every season, plus they just remove it the next season, so I just don't really like it. It's like the Agency and Risky Reels, which got removed like a season or two later. The next big thing is the WOD currency. Now I thought this was a type of building material that's weaker than WOD at first, but after some digging, you can get WOD from Stashes and Saves, and you can actually spend it on vendors or NPCs, which actually give you items like guns. It's kinda like how the vending machine works, but with a whole different material. I think they probably got this idea from Warzone because they had the money thing since launch, and the buying machines in Warzone are similar. I'm hoping that the WOD currency will see changes in the future that will allow it to get other things like buying out teammates, just like in Warzone. Although that would be like copying Warzone, it's a good start for something that you can change as the game moves forward. The loot pool has changed just like every season, but this season isn't all that different. There's a lot of things that have been rotted. Some big names stand out like the pump and the scar. I'm just so used to finally adding and removing things that I just don't care about anymore. They did add the tag and balloon spec though. The loot pool is definitely the only part of the season I just don't like. I don't know why they keep on doing this, although they do say that the community likes these changes and it will keep us from getting bored, but why change the meta every season when players have to adjust every time. There are some good new items that they added though, like the dragon breath shotgun. The shotgun fires 4 rounds at one time which is actually pretty sick. I haven't seen that before and it also does splash damage, so it can hit more than one person. The mbm rifle is also a new thing that can be found by beating the Mandalorian. It has a whole new look to it and it has a thermal scope. The jetpack can also be obtained by beating the Mandalorian and I really like this too because it gives me season 4 vibes when the jetpack is released. I'm saying the original jetpack. The return of launch pads is also a huge change for the better because of how useful they were. Now let's talk about the skins and the storyline. As many people saw in the live event, Zero Point is the new theme of this season I guess. Now why do I think this is a good thing for Epic? Well unlike last season and the season before that where things were mostly focused on Avengers, we finally have the fornite storyline back. Remember when fornite used to create their own storyline like ice king vs the prisoner or the rocket launch and raft event in season 4? Well I think they're bringing it back kinda. I hope this goes somewhere and the live event leading up to this was great awesome. The battle pass is what I would say pretty average, nothing new. The only good skins I like are the anime girl and of course the Mandalorian with baby Yoda. Mystery rewards are also cool in all too. Most of the points in this video I said I liked because it kinda brought me back to the OG days. It's one of the reasons I liked this so much. Even though they added a ton of good things, I think most of the player base would appreciate that they brought back a lot of the OG items and locations. I think the best season in chapter 2 is season 5 because of the changes. Overall it's heading into a better direction with its items and gameplay and the addition of the wad currency will allow it to do that. I don't think it will reverse the decisions of players who quit the game a year ago but they certainly are in a better place than in chapter 2 season 1. So yeah season 5 is the best season fornite and a long time in my opinion. What do you think about this topic? If you wanna learn more about gaming or you just wanna know more about games, subscribe. I post videos weekly and you'll be missing out on a ton of things you might wanna know about gaming. Thanks for watching and let's have a discussion about this in the comments below.