Okay, it looks like we have a quorum and it's time to get started. So we're going to call this one to order. I lost my agenda here this. We're going to start out with the grievance that's been filed by John race and James Cunningham from the highway department. And it's gotten to the level for the select board to hear the grievance and issue a decision. So we'd like to start off with allowing John and James to present their case. Are they here? I have both of them. This is Corey. I have both of them on my computer at my house. Which one would you like to go first? Can you have them call into our meeting? They're saying no, they're not able to. They're planning on just using my computer. What service are you using Corey? I'm using my hotspot on my phone. So I believe there's actually a phone line they can call in on. That's absolutely true. On the agenda, there's a phone line Corey<PHONE_NUMBER>. So they can call into our meeting. Neither one of them say they have a phone with them. So what are they using to connect to your computer? They're at my place. So they're sitting there with you? Well, one of them is eight feet away and the other one is about 10 feet from the other one. All right, so let's start. Let's have the first one listed. John, explain what his grievance is. Excuse me, madam. I'd love to just to step in for a second. My name's Sean Magadal. I'm the bargaining agent and the excuse bargaining agent for this group through IUPI. First and foremost, you know, this is a grievance area. It is a personnel matter. It is kind of unorthodox that we do those in open sessions, considering it is a personnel matter. The documents have been presented and folded to this committee, which are pretty straightforward and pretty simple of what they are. This grievance I'll break down real simple so we don't waste a lot of people's time is that this is bargaining unit. Well, hold up. Let's just I want to hear from John and James since it's their grievance. And if they want to authorize you to speak for them, then I'm fine with that. But right now what we have is the two individuals coming to us with a grievance, not the union. Yeah, but we are the exclusive bargaining agent. And if you look at the contract on Article 1, it's very clear that says we are the exclusive bargaining agent for this bargaining unit. And that all claims by the employee, by the union shall be brought forward. John, this is Adolfo, the town manager. If you continue to interrupt, I will have to mute you and can remove you from the meeting if you do not allow the select board chair to run the meeting. What I'm asking for is for the two individuals that have filed the grievance if they're speaking or if they want the union to speak for them. The union speak for me. And who's me? John Rays. Okay. And there's another member, James. Union speaks to me. James Cunningham.  You're, or are you speaking? I'm going to let Sean speak for me as well. Okay. So Sean, if you could just present the grievance that's been filed by the two town employees. Yeah, again, I'm going to put on the record one more time that clearly the union is the exclusive bargaining agent here and in Article 3 clearly states that the union shall present the written grievance to Board of Select within 10 days, which has been forwarded. We have served this grievance is a pretty straightforward grievance that's gone all the way through the process. It is in violation of Section 402 F, which clearly talks about the membership. The members of this unit have had bargaining unit work, which was for snow removal, plowing, and this has been done by a supervisor, which has generated this grievance. The plowing and snowing of the town roads have been done and continue to be done by bargaining unit work, which is actually even referenced in another section of 301 C, which is not in contention right now, which talks about unclean weather of when the town can actually change the shifts of the employees. The supervisor has admitted that he did do salting of roughly five miles of roadway without calling in the membership, and that's what the grievance is in a nutshell. This has been bargaining unit work for us and will continue to be bargaining unit work, and that's the grievance in a nutshell. Sean, I'm sure as the union, you're familiar with the job specs for employees of the town? I am very, very well aware of what the job duties are for this bargaining unit and what the exclusive. The examples of work for a highway equipment operator. Can you tell me what what are the types of equipment that those folks operate in the activity? Oh, I believe it's spelled out in there. A lot of them is far as what the additional responsibilities is in the wage section of the collective bargaining agreement that they talk about. Motor grader tractors will excavate is all crawler doses. I mean, that's in the contract of the town. Yeah, the items that you're mentioning are just the ones for which the town will pay an extra dollar an hour if they're operated. So let me help you with this highway equipment operator under examples of work. It says operates a variety of equipment from pickups, medium dumps, snow plows, and they underneath it. It also says operates equipment consistent with established public work methods and procedures for maintenance and snow removal. Would you agree with that? Correct. Okay, so then the highway superintendent job spec, I'm sure you're familiar with that. So I'll just go right to it. Examples of work, it says operates all equipment when necessary to complete the mission. Would you agree with that? If that's what it says, I don't have that in front of me. So when they operate all the equipment to do the mission, the equipment has been spelled out as trucks, dump trucks and more maintenance and snow removal. We have an operating superintendent, not just an office superintendent. You'll agree, though, that the snow plowing is the job duties of the highway department. Of the entire department, right? Therefore, the policy or the job description of your superintendent cannot supersede our collective bargaining agreement. It clearly says bargaining unit employees shall be offered bargaining unit overtime first. Well, but I don't know that this was bargain was overtime, right? It was, we already had a superintendent out there working that just had to literally reach over and hit a switch to spread material in the back of his truck, which he is allowed to do because it's in his job spec while he was out inspecting. So I'm not understanding why. So first off, he's allowed to do it in his job spec. It is his job. And second off, aren't we talking about a public safety issue here? So his job is to do these activities needed for a safe highway. You're saying he should have just called in other employees, which have an hour to respond to the garage to then figure out material, load material and respond. So for about an hour and a half, we would have that same condition as a known condition in the town, creating a liability. But we have a working superintendent, not a desk jockey. So I guess I'm not understanding why you feel that the right thing for him to do was to leave an unsafe situation when his job is to be able to operate equipment and maintain safe roads also. So is the superintendent contesting that this was a call that came in from a town resident saying it was unsafe and he was to show up to do that? Or was it he was driving the roads and seeing that it needed to be a little bit salted more and decided to do it? He was out doing checking the roads. Madam Chair, if I may share something with you if it's useful. It sounds to me like the union is attempting to override a section of the union contract, more specifically section 402 overtime paragraph B where it specifically states the need to schedule overtime shall be determined by management. No employee shall work overtime or schedule another employee to work overtime without prior authorization of the town manager or town manager's designee. In the case that is being made by the union, it is directly in contradiction to this specific item which the union agreed to which is stating that management determines when overtime is to be scheduled or when overtime is needed. Agreed that that's in the contract. Do we have any questions from other board members on this? I'd like to ask a couple of questions. The first one is let me make sure I'm going down through the grievance packet here. So it was Mr. Cunningham that saw Mr. Drury at four o'clock in the morning on the 21st of 2020, 21st of December 2020, was Mr. Cunningham out at that time of the morning in the middle of the snowstorm expecting to be cold in or how is it that he was out and just happened to come upon Mr. Drury to our court? Do you want to answer that? Yes, he's coming to the computer. Yeah, I sit, I was in my house getting cup of coffee and looked out my window because I've got a straight shot to the main street the more I live and I saw him drive through with the Chevy and so lights on any result. Okay and I second question I have is that I see information as provided by the town manager relative to the grievance committee meeting that was held where this where this grievance was discussed and according to the minutes of that meeting or at least the way they've been related to we select board members it says during the conversation both Mr. Race and Mr. Cunningham agreed that Mr. Drury performs salting and or sanding of roadways and Mr. Cunningham without objection from the grievance committee agreed that Mr. Drury performs these duties on a regular basis and are considered a part of his normal work so how does that statement that you based on what I'm seeing here agreed to during the grievance committee how does that dovetail with your grievance if if you're saying that Mr. Drury routinely performs this work and then you're flipping it around and saying but he was performing it when he shouldn't have been and what's the what's the story there uh what he did what he did he was doing main street which is part of my route and by all rights he should have called me in because that is my route and and he's supposedly doing the pack a lot not sure James that that answered the question no it didn't the indication I see in the documents that we've been presented related to this greeting to this grievance are that Mr. Drury routinely performs salting and sanding of roadways and that uh uh Mr. Cunningham agreed to that and and both Mr. Cunningham and Mr. Race said that he routinely performs these duties on a regular basis nothing was said about parking lots or time of day or roadways versus shoulders or anything like that it just and in his job description it it talks about his uh being able to and expected to participate in the operation of town equipment so I don't I don't quite get what the distinction is here I believe in the distinction in this grievance is that he has sanded and plowed parking lots he has never done the main roads that has always been done and divided up amongst the employees in the bargaining unit work never wrong gentlemen please correct me but that doesn't sound like but your members agreed to when they had the meeting well they they are right here on the phone that's saying that it was parking lots and that he was doing the main drag um is from what the statement so does anything in the union contract or in the job descriptions make the distinction between parking lots and roadways there's nothing in the contract that's been the practice of the parties as long as these guys have been there to uh help me understand this uh James in the entire time you've been with the town of randolph uh a superintendent of highways has never applied sand or done any operating of equipment on a town highway where you gotta unmute for him to talk he's can you repeat that he couldn't hear you sir I want to know if uh what he's saying to us is that in the time he's been working for the town of randolph a highway superintendent has never operated equipment town equipment on the town highway only in parking lots louder no you got to leave it on unmuted cori so we can hear him no so you're telling me a superintendent has never operated town equipment on a town highway I didn't say that what I meant was they do operate them but generally when we're in here we're all busy and we're all doing what we're supposed to be doing okay that's not helping me so he was out that morning doing what he was supposed to be doing right which is checking the roads and whatnot and he applied product to the road because it was slippery and so you're saying that that is uh something that he would do but just not at four in the morning that's what he's supposed to do if we're not out if we're available to be out there's no reason why he can't call us and tell us we need to come in and take care of our routes so he would do it if you weren't out if we are all out that's our jobs to the intend our routes and yes he does help us when we need him to help us so it is normal for the highway superintendent to be out operating equipment to do maintenance and activities on town highways thank you anybody have any other questions I guess I would just also like because over time is that issue here um is it just the fact that it was four o'clock in the morning and outside of the traditional workday that this would constitute over time I suspect that's the case I just want to clarify that yes that is the case okay so if this was four o'clock in the afternoon it wouldn't be over time yes it would the highway department runs seven to three thirty okay well then if it was two o'clock in the afternoon it wouldn't be over time okay but I think what we're hearing Tom is um that I know the over time is not the issue the issue is that the the um I don't want to call it the right but whether it's proper for the highway supervisor to have been doing this even though it's in his job description that he is that this is one of his duties and responsibilities so well but what I heard was that he does do this yeah they don't like it he did it at four in the morning but it's okay if he does it at noon that's what I'm kind of getting at here you know he's out there his job is to be out there at four in the morning his job is to be checking the safety of the road so if he's got the ability to hit the switch and spread some salt where it's slippery at noon I don't understand why he doesn't have the ability to do it at four in the morning oh that's exactly my point I think the difference is the distinction is between two in the afternoon you would already have your guys there actually going out doing their routes and he's a supplemental piece to snow removal not the primary the primary is the bargaining unit I'm not sure I agree with that but I think he's an active piece of it I think they all are we don't have somebody that can sit on the sidelines and only come in when they're needed we don't have enough positions for that right so if there's no further questions I believe we have a certain number of days to make a decision where we can make it tonight can you clarify that Adolfo uh yes I believe that in step three the select board has up to 10 days the board will hold agreement hearing decision and writing I have issued the decision on behalf of the select board within 10 working days of this hearing and would we have to convene a separate meeting to make that decision if we don't make it tonight correct yes we would yeah I I don't know how others feel but you know I would just ask the question do we have enough on the record here this evening that we would be comfortable making a decision this evening rather than having to get us all together again kind of asking that rhetorically but I know how I feel is there anything we haven't heard from Pat Larry or Perry is there anything more you would like to know about this before making a decision I would like to to since we've heard the discussion I would like a restatement of what their grievance is and exactly what it's based on you want to take that one Sean I think a grievance is pretty well well stated in there that on the the night in question um that the superintendent performed bargaining unit work without calling in the members of the bargaining unit on an overtime basis to perform those duties you know we agree that it was supplemental piece of it but I believe that it's in writing that where it is and should have been called in I mean these guys these guys clearly have routes that are assigned to them by the superintendent um of plow routes and cleaning routes the superintendent does not have a assigned routine overseas and supplements during snow removal process and again it's not part of the grievance but 301c clearly talks about inclement weather during November through April for snow removal for the time to be able to adjust members of the bargaining unit schedule in order to be able to commit it to deal with snow removal you're not disagreeing that the superintendent's job is to go out and do the infections and to do to look at safety concerns and issues and address them um I'm not going to stipulate to that because we are going to have a conversation at some point with the time manager about the safety checks um so I'm I'm not willing to stipulate to that at this point anybody else have any further information they need to make a decision yeah Trina I just have a question or two one one is I'm not clear what the union's response is to to what was pointed out by Adolfo the contract says that the need to schedule overtime shall be determined by management to me that seems to imply that if the superintendent doesn't think that overtime is necessary that that's his decision and so I'd love to hear a response to that I 150% agree with you but that does not mean that the superintendent can come in and perform bargaining unit work without calling them in and then my other question is um I heard earlier union seemed to say that it's okay if the superintendent does this sort of work during normal hours um if everybody is already busy doing their routes and they need more help but it would seem to me that that the same reasoning ought to apply that he shouldn't be able to do it then either because if he didn't do that work at that point then someone else would need to do it and if they were busy all day then that work would put them into overtime but it seems like people have agreed that it's okay for him to do it during the day when needed so it seems like it ought to be okay for him to do it at other times as well again this is you know he's being a supplement when all the guys are busy you're correct that yeah if he didn't do it and I'm sure there's been cases of that where he hasn't done it and guys have stayed over to perform those duties after the storm again this isn't an everyday occurrence that um that he's out having a root that's different if he actually had a root that was doing it every single day because then it would be considered shared work this is not considered shared work he's supplemental after the guys are already out in their routes so if I may what what is the the bargaining unit's response to um the concern that chair Versard raised earlier um from what from what she said it takes it can take 60 to 90 minutes for someone to be cold in to deal with snowy or icy or unsafe road conditions and if the supervisor is out doing his job and determining what the road conditions are and makes the snap judgment that these roads need to be dealt with now um in the interest of public safety that seems like a perfectly reasonable decision for him to make um and I can't speak for him he's not here I don't believe but um it seems like he made a reasonable judgment that night in December that Main Street needed to be dealt with uh and I I can't see how that's um you know not a valid decision I don't know where the hour and a half comes from um I know in the in the contract there's references to 30 minutes and a time frame for them to be able to respond in okay there's also pieces of in there that the town can place the highway department on call if they know there's a storm coming um so there is pieces in there that are clearly stated to be able to have people on call so if it needs to be that they need to respond within a certain period of time to be able to address those types of things yeah if I may um during the grievance interview with the highway superintendent I know it doesn't state in this grievance he admitted to going to Chelsea mountain road first insulting from the bottom to the top then he proceeded to come to Randolph village after doing that to do Main Street and Central Street and whose route is is that is that road normally uh Tom uh Tom uh before before we proceed from that I I think the select board has kept its questions in the answers that have been provided to a very specific okay point to that's based on fact right I think at this point um there is a a statement that has been made that we cannot confirm at this point okay it's our highway superintendent I agree no I hear you so I just want to clarify the union is is saying that they're they're basing this grievance on section 402 part c that particular sentence is that correct part f I'm sorry part f 402 f 402 f 301 c I might have confused with 301 c just talks about letting the um let them change the hours during equivalent weather between November 1st and April 1 November 2 April I don't know the exact date on top of my head so the 301 c is where we allow them to work four day weeks in the summertime and they come back to five day weeks to handle the winter conditions is that correct Tom that's the the whole section but see you talk about the time you're going to write on a voluntary basis only to alter work schedules and shifts as necessary from November 1st through April 1st to address issues related to inquant weather and so do you know I think it's hard for us to entertain that because we don't have anything that's presented in the grievance talking about it was a storm they knew was coming or what the decision was you know where the union feels we should have put everybody on call because of a big event you know we have a big nor'easter coming in probably going to have people on call we have flash freezing that nobody knew about probably not going to have anybody on call but I you know we don't have information to weigh into this so we're stuck looking at is this overtime section of the contract and whether or not what took place by the highway superintendent fits in his job description so it was a duty we he has done in the past or prior superintendents have done in the past or whether he went rogue and it's something he should shouldn't have been doing or it been expected and to reiterate what to repeat what Adolfo said earlier 402b reads the need to schedule overtime shall be determined by management so that seems to have applied in this case that's that's how i'm reading it that there was no need to have someone come in for overtime because this was done in the course of the supervisor doing his ordinary um his ordinary work seems to me that part f that the at least the the spirit of f is really about not bringing in people outside the department to do this kind of work that's that would be my interpretation of why that section is is there um that that this is a not that kind of situation that no overtime work was was necessary so this doesn't come into effect the supervisor wasn't getting overtime for this work it wasn't like he got overtime when someone else didn't right that's correct yeah if he had been out and determined that we had a widespread problem around town that he couldn't handle himself then i can see that it would have triggered an overtime call to the bargaining unit but it seems based on the record that he made the decision to plow that section of main street that's under question here um and uh yeah i mean it just seems like he was performing and under the regular um umbrella of his of his job description and we see we see to management in the contract that um the right to make that determination do we need any more do we have any more questions any more information we need anybody ready to make a motion do we want to take the full 10 days for this what's the pleasure um i'd like to move that we deny the grievance also i think that you have a motion and a second on the floor all those in favor aye aye opposed abstained motion carries thank you so um i believe at this point um we'll work with adolfo on the written decision and have it uh out to folks in the 10 day time period um so at this point uh motion to adjourn the grievance hearing so moved second all those in favor aye aye aye opposed abstained motion carries call to order the board of liquor control and first up is uh public comment on the liquor control board in nobody jumping up to talk about liquor up there we'll have the agenda for that board so moved second all those in favor aye aye opposed carries uh new business we have uh first class and second class liquor license and an outside consumption request want to take them as one sure her entertain a motion to approve uh move that we approve uh the group of licenses before us seconded all those in favor aye aye aye opposed motion carries looking to adjourn so moved second president david aye sure you need the nice choice yep um i just need to be sure that at least one flick board member comes in to sign those liquor licenses so they can be processed please yep we will get a body in there thank you my time i can make a guest appearance tomorrow all right thank you just don't go like all shocked on me so i don't make it to the big city very often there's a lot to sign bring extra pens i gotta bring my own pen maybe i can't make sounds all right next up is a select board agenda we'll call that one to order and first up is public comment this is anything that's not on our select board agenda hey if i may make one public comment i just uh wanted to point uh to the select board um and wanted to recognize to everyone that this is uh uh joice mozuko's last meeting as the treasurer clerk for the town after nearly three decades of service to the randolph community this is the final official participation of joice as town clerk and town treasurer at a select board meeting just wanted to recognize her for her efforts and for all that she's done and just to remind the select board of her of repenting retirement bravo thank you joice thank you joice joice i'm only jealous thank you for your retirement joice um i'm sticking around i don't have any real plans for much so i'll be around good well it's well deserved for sure thanks for bringing that up sure i did toy with the idea of not bringing it up with the thought that maybe if i didn't bring it up joice would not retire but she said that retirement is foregone conclusion it's happening so and we also have the opportunity to call a special meeting just to make sure this is in our last we're through our faces huh get together and have a big party though because i think everybody needs a reason for a party all right i don't know if there's multi household gatherings well if we each considered the other a safe household right we could gather in close proximity but not like super close right yeah that's uh too much creative thinking on bureaucratic rules all right so uh i'll entertain a motion for approval of the select board agenda if i if i may make one request to the board if if the board would consider adding the certificate of highway mileage to the agenda under new business sure thank you once we got to get it then we're probably out of time yeah so entertain a motion for approval of the agenda with the amendment you beat me go you beat me all right i'll second all those in favor thank you can carry his uh first up is council calendar meeting minutes cemetery plots and events i have a comment on the minutes of january 14th yeah uh page two where i made the motion about um not accepting any of the architectural assessments it should say that french moved to reject all bids because they were all significantly above the budget in amount there was a reason in there why we rejected all the bids okay we'll approve the consent calendar with that change okay all those in favor hi hi post motion carries new business uh first up is financial institution bid selection so there was an action item sheet on that talking about the bids uh maybe joys could explain the financial institution selected on january 8th um we submitted a request for a proposal toward number banks um the reason for the proposal is we've been with citizens bank or some version of citizens bank since about um 1998 1999 um so we've been with them a very long time um but um the we are not earning much interest on the money that we have there um so with cliff um we drafted up a proposal to send to the banks um seeking a bid for um banking services for the town offering um different types of services like um the insured cash uh accounts where there's a sweep account and it moves money um into an interest bearing account overnight um and also um offering other types of services um within the the proposal um so we received I believe we received six or seven um responses to our RFP um cliff and I um and emory looked over the different proposals um and based on uh the rate of interest that we are likely to receive and whether or not there were fees that would be charge related um to the um banking services um and also based on um past experience with uh the particular financial institution um we recommend that we go with the bid from um maskoma bank noise can you just um it said checking account is that the day-to-day checking account of the town and it's what I'm trying to understand is what that adds for complexity for like depositing checks the town receives if it's not a town you know it's not they don't have an office in rand off right um they included in the proposal was to have um remote captured deposits so even though they don't have a branch here in rand off um they would provide us or we would have to purchase I can't remember which in this case um but we would have a scanner where we would scan the checks on a daily pace on a daily basis to be deposited each day and then we would deposit cash transactions at a local bank um so that the cash is always being deposited um and then there's no cash sitting here in the office um so um so that was part of the the proposal that um each bank provides to us was um whatever costs that may be related to using remote deposit capture um and um for also um using online banking and um the ACH transfer funds to different banks and whatnot um and based on our analysis of the different fee structures and and information that each bank provided to us um maskoma gave us I think the best offer I don't know if this has anything additional to add to that well I concur excuse me I concur with Joyce um the we've got the bulk of our funds sitting in a money market account now at um ensured money market account at um maskoma because they're offering the best rates and have been for since I joined the town um and this would simplify our banking in terms of linking our accounts um so that the money can be swept out to the sweep account each night at the end of the day um so we would maximize our interest with very little effort on the part of town staff and the remote capture we've been doing for a long time um our current bank I think the remote captures go down to Rutland is that right Joyce yeah so they're processed out of Rutland um maskoma does have a branch down in Bethel which was one of the considerations that we made as well the cliff uh with the sweep account structure uh is that an automatic sweep both ways or just an automatic sweep one way so how if an automatic sweep both ways um we would have a target balance of $50,000 in our checking account at maskoma as funds are needed in that account to cover out cover checks that we've written funds will be swept from our ensured cash sweep account over into the checking to cover those checks as we deposit funds those those funds in excess of $50,000 are automatically swept the other way to earn maximum interest on the funds thank you so we'll never bounce a check not not unless we're seriously shy of funds which we are which we are currently not in any any we're near close to that that's some serious overdraft protection there any questions from anybody on the board hearing none any motions to approve I'll move do we approve second all those in favor all right all right opposed abstained motion carries thank you agreement request for led dynamics ngne dc yes we were approached um by norwich solar which is a local solar panel installation firm that is currently working with the green mine economic development corporation and led dynamic they are looking to install solar panels on the building on beville road because the town is a lean holder or i'm sorry a mortgage holder because of the grant that was issued by the state through the town to green mine economic development corporation any changes that occur on the facility have to receive the approval of the town and this agreement that was proposed by norwich solar was reviewed by the town's attorney was created after the fact in collaboration with our town attorney and our town attorney feels that these are very standard agreements in the type of relationship that the town is in with our two other partners if if the board would like we do have a representative from norwich solar on the call that can provide more specific detail about the project that's being proposed um just uh interesting connection i just made on this uh i need to recuse myself on this one because i just signed a purchase and sales agreement with norwich solar so if larry could take this one that would be awesome yeah sure um i don't have any questions do any other board members have a question for the representative from norwich solar i don't have any no i don't i have a couple how many kilowatts is it brennan so about 200 and it's about 200 right and the reason for this agreement is because you will basically control that space on the roof for a certain amount of years right it's primarily an agreement between lenders so uh the i the colloquial general common sense description is um this document says that uh if for whatever reason um the landlord in this case uh or the holder of the debt wants uh has their tenant defaults um they want to have clear uh access to their asset and and they just want to make sure that this the solar tenant will not get in between their access to their asset so that's the subordination of this the solar tenant or it could be any other tenant on a property agrees to subordinate themselves um in in that event um the non disturbance is the kind of handshake in the other direction that says look if um if the lender is going to foreclose on the property because the the building tenant is is not paying their bills um the the other tenant the solar tenant gets to stay there right there they're not in default and so the um they get to be non-disturbed and then the attornment aspect says that the solar tenant agrees in advance to a new landlord so if if uh for some reason there's a default and either the lender becomes the landlord or the lender um uh kind of sells the asset and there's a new landlord the solar agrees in advance uh to the new landlord so that's uh it's an agreement between lenders and how many years is the contract for this space or the lease is for 25 years to be renewable i believe there's a i'm not sure if there's a renewable a renewal clause in there specifically or not i'm sorry thank you yep thank you any other questions i'll make the motion to approve this agreement allowing the town mayor to design correct yes i'll second it we have a motion and a second on favor say aye aye closed motion passes thanks for touching thank you you're back on treaty thanks just for the record i'm standing on that boat yep i got you down as an abstention thank you branch with lot and the brella program uh the town has been working with the regional planning with our regional planning commission two rivers um on identifying what may have been left um on the branch with lot uh two years out of qui chi came to the select board uh several months ago after it concluded its phase one environmental assessment and shared with the board uh what it had found at the time and also briefly spoke to the select board about a potential opportunity to uh find additional funding to perform a phase two environmental assessment um at this point two rivers has come to us and has shared with us that there's an opportunity to enter the brella program which is a state program that helps uh owners of potential brown uh fuel sites or brown fuel sites to give them access to funds that would otherwise not be available for cleaning or for expertise or consultation two rivers would like to recommend that the town agree to enroll the branch with lot or the branch with property into the brella program and is also offered to pay for uh the application and then also pull the application together on behalf of the town anybody have any questions on this none anybody want to make a motion to pursue it i move that we enroll the branch with lot parcel into the brella program second and i will second that i think larry beach it's on all right it's on you we have a motion and second all those in favor hi hi hi posed motion carries branch uh water allocation for face Sherman lots we have on the call chris chambers the water superintendent when i asked him to join us for this meeting so that he can speak about the request that his department received uh from mr face Sherman chris are you there yeah i'm trying i was just having trouble getting it unmuted um so this is just a follow-up this request came in with the wastewater variance that was requested last month um they both came at the same time and just due to an error on my part it didn't get moved on for last month um just the it's the water allocation request for those um for lots that he wants to subdivide that's on the end of south pleasant street through the cross from the cemetery down there uh it's our current for the state's current rate is two dollars and sixty five cents per gallon for 360 gallons totaling all four lots together to be three thousand eight hundred and sixteen dollars the committee recommended approval um uh uh passed four to zero chris any questions from board members seeing none anybody want to make a motion i'll move that we approve the allocation the water allocation for those four lots addition is time you gotta get quicker all right i'm just gonna be quiet just like playing jeopardy i have to punch that button you gotta punch the button it's sounding like a tie to me it's more quiet we had a dueling second i'll include that in a minute it's okay all right we have a motion and a second uh all those in favor opposed what if she carries i think we're back to you chris on the water meter request for freedom foods uh yep um a couple months ago we had requested um or well freedom foods requested a you know a wastewater credit and a billing adjustment on a regular basis someone made the question of a meter which um it had been questioned early on but no one was sure if it could have been done after looking at the system they are able to put a meter in after the RO system so it doesn't there's no having to care for any of the waste product from the RO system this this water is strictly used in their goods mostly in anything that they bottle is the larger stuff they you know any beverages that they make and then they get shipped out of town to the retailers uh we do have one other instance of this type of adjustment as wind river or formally dimmick septic services they have a meter that is a water only set up that is for water that gets taken out of town um and because they use it on their service trucks and stuff like that and so they don't get billed for the sewer portion of that any quite I mean the committee met on February 1st to discuss the meter uh they motion passed three to zero to approve them to recommend approval of the meter um so I guess any questions from there I have a couple questions chris it's pat um it says here the might typically be a credit of three hundred and seventy five dollars is that correct yeah that's the average based on the work that cliff and I had done um on the bat sheets that was prevented prior to uh so it's all the same water so that's kind of where that number came from what's their total average water bill oh geez they've been quite high for um quite a while they put in some cooling racks to as part of the process to cool the bottles down um which uses an excessive amount of water uh I believe they're lowest in like a year was last quarter at 59 unit but that was due to they didn't do much bottling that particular quarter prior to that I'm not real familiar with their actual usages I would have to confer with finance on that there's a possibility Nathan Bacon was from Freedom Foods was trying to be on the call he might know what that is I don't know if he's there or not yeah chris can you hear me yeah okay yeah my video doesn't work on my home laptop um yeah as far as the the historical water usage goes as as he mentioned we do bottling um and some products are required to be cooled down to a certain temperature um rather quickly um to avoid spoilage and and damage to the overall product um so when that was first installed we we had it equipped to be able to hooked up to a chiller um that would then be cooling the process water um but from the outset we couldn't do that so it would the means of cooling down that water for cooling the bottles was was basically running a tap into the tank um so that's going to go down drastically um I mean we think we were using around 800 gallons a day um for that process when when we were up and running um and that number should be going down to less than a hundred um with the new chiller that's going in so what was the average bill uh chris would have to speak that I don't know off the top of my head I didn't bring any documents home for this yeah I'm sorry I don't have that information that would be a finance question the reason the reason I'm asking is because my memory have been having been on the water and sewer committee is that a certain amount of water that you take in does not go into the sewer system and I seem to remember 10 or 20 percent that typically does not go into the sewer system for one reason or another so I'm wondering what $375 what percentage of their total bill that is um we can definitely look into that I am not not entirely sure I want that number would be um I can do some some quick math when we're up and running our bottling line um the winner is kind of a downtime for it uh a majority of our water is going into bottles um and if I do some math here really quick um I can get you that number right anywhere from a thousand to 1700 gallons a day would be going into a product just based on our bottling through but when we're running at capacity what I'm asking is the credit will be $375 roughly that's what we have in our information what percentage of the total bill is that yeah we'd have to get you we don't have those numbers sorry about it seems like if it's within the same range as the average residents pays for anyway even if it doesn't go down into the sewer that's my question it would seems like it would be unfair to give an additional break in this case and my other question is if we were to approve this does that mean that anybody can do that I mean I guess the only thing I can say to that is if we're using 10 000 gallons or more a day going into bottles it's substantially more than 10 to 20 percent of our water usage and none of that goes back into the wastewater system here because I guess I would I would say um Pat I'm not aware of the current the way the current billing works that there is an automatic allowance for a certain amount um I my understanding is that the is that the the sewers charges are based proportionately on the water usage and I agree with that but the engineers have told us in the past when I was on the water and sewer committee that if 100 gallons of water come in it's less than 100 gallons that go out yeah yeah you're drinking some of it right so there's probably reasons I guess in this case there's an easy way to monitor this by hooking the reverse osmosis system up to a separate meter as I'm reading here and you know there's really no way to monitor how much a homeowner is you know who's consuming six glasses of water a day is you see what I'm saying it's it's it's a distinction between a commercial operation and a residential use of the system in all of in this scenario anyp has a little bit of a similar deal but it's not quite the same and same for um wind river they all have all these extra meters they pay for they maintain them um for the most part they submit the readings we do verify the readings in their case they want to mount the reader right next to the reader that we read so it would be our operator would go up read the water meter and then make it they would have that reading sitting right there um so this is you know other than the credit or adjustment to the wastewater bill it's very minimal of what we do whereas like a resident it's and the resident it's not a consistent thing this is like part of this is part of how this business this business uses this water as um trying to think of where do I want for it sorry cost of goods sold yeah essentially yeah Chris isn't this sort of similar to um you and I have talked about this before because we had this issue at our home isn't this sort of similar to the fact that a homeowner can ask for a credit on their sewage bill for water to fill a swimming pool that is correct it's a measure it's a measurable amount and it's easy to measure um like you know we don't issue the credits for you know topping your pool off through the summer but if we go out verify your pool's empty and you fill your pool up you know then yes you're good then we know you put that water in there yeah so back last month when we were talking about this I didn't have a problem with any of this as long as there was a meter and a way to quantify it so you know my take on this is they've done what we've asked them to do and you know I think it's it's fair so you know like I said if I decide I want to buy a water meter and install it myself and when I'm washing trucks all summer we'll you know I see the same treatment okay commercial users are different than residential users and if we're making the case for the pool or fulfilling a swimming pool I don't think that's any different than last winter when I paid for water to make snow you know I didn't pay a sewer fee for it I paid the water bill yep that aligns with the thinking of the committee so can I just repeat my question then anybody can do this they can meter their water that doesn't go down the sewer right seems reasonable to me I think we want to we're I think we're looking more at a commercial yeah I would say commercial needs to be the key here yeah and in the case of a swimming pool you know I think that's certainly fair and to add a little bit more for the board it looks like the precedent is is not necessarily water loss within the town but the precedent is water that is taken and then disposed of outside of the district outside of the town boundary as opposed to being used within the town in a different way first you mentioned two other places that do this you said wind river and what was the other so normally precision is in a very similar situation theirs is because of their history over time they started out with just only getting water from us and if you remember they used to have that big evaporator that had a ton of steam coming off the building and the last couple years it actually went to the board where the board ended up approving them to adopt the be able to send us process water with a bod surcharge that's how the wastewater plan operates and so we charge them more money because as they go above and beyond the normal waste load and so yeah and so they are in that situation they actually have a separate meter for the process water they have a full-on pump station with a water meter it's not a water meter it's a wastewater meter with special grinders in it like five to ten thousand dollar range that they pay for and maintain and on top of that they have hot these special washers that evaporate water because they get the water so hot to clean the parts it's also reverse osmosis water and that water boils off so we don't catch that and it's like 50 units a quarter and they're instant okay do we have any more questions from members of the board on anybody else have questions buttons go to unmute uh anybody want to make a motion on this sure so i make a motion that we approve freedom foods for the use of a waste for the use of an approved meter measured from the RO for water used in the production of their products at all second second all those in favor pose oh that's a a pose pat that's second uh finally just sorry point of uh clarification that second was Larry from Tom all over oh Tom got in there all right motion carries um next up is a sculpture agreement between the town of Randolph and Paul we had a member of the community work to install a sculpture at the garden area that is maintained by Rosalind over on a lot owned by the town at one elm street the sculpture was installed several approximately about two three months ago before before winter really started and throughout that process we've been working where i've been working with the sculptor to establish an agreement on the installation of the sculpture or just the fact that the town now has the sculpture and the agreement that was in your packet is what the sculptor and I have been able to come up with which is essentially that the town owns the sculpture but the town agrees to return the sculpture should the current home of the sculpture fall into disrepair uh or if there is new no new location to install the sculpture that is agreed to by both the town and the sculptor or the town uh and the sculptors errors on the agreement it's um Adolfo can attest this is an agreement with which I am intimately familiar having having served as the intermediary between Marjorie Ryerson and Paul and the town office and it reads perfectly it reads perfectly fine to me and I think it's in keeping with Paul's wishes that he retains some control over the fate of the sculpture in the event that the garden goes out of use or anything like that so let's find me I have one comment I think the so when we approve this agreement it should be put in the town records so we can always get and get a hold of it if we need it I could I could do that I could at the board order approve and once we have all the signatures I could certainly hand it over to the clerk's office so that we could keep it on the official record I moved to approve the agreement with the stipulation that it be recorded in the town records once signed I will second that we'll let you have that you know I knew Tom was going to be fast I didn't even try I'm so happy to see this one uh off my plate that there you go you have a motion and a second all those in favor hi hi and if you see Paul Gary yes thank you Paul and he has been um he has been sent a thank you letter on behalf of the town and the arts and culture committee as well so nice next up we have the treasurer's office change in access to accounts we have as you all know Joyce has brought in her successor Emory Matthias who is also I believe running unopposed this year as a treasurer clerk and so the existing treasurer clerk is brought to the board a request to include Emory as a potential signature in all of our accounts um I have a question um I have no issue with this but um does that have to wait until he is officially until Emory is officially elected to the clerk treasurer position I would imagine the bank would have policies on that no um he would be currently he would be added as an assistant got it okay that makes sense yeah um but by having him on the account when I when I do actually retire then you don't have to go through the process of adding his name he's he's already on the account it's just a matter of change in title from assistant to to being actually the treasurer okay that makes sense and Joyce do we have a bond for this sort of stuff everything bonding for the clerk treasurer it falls under the insurance that we have through VLCT and that covers everybody yes all move that we add Emory Matthias has an authorized signatory and an all-town bank accounts and the credit card a second you beat him I waited a moment to give him a chance I'm okay I'm okay that's why I was on mute okay all those in favor hi hi hi posed sustained motion carries next up is a snowmobile trail access form in your packets in the updated packets uh um now to have a time to pull together an action item sheet but I did include a snowmobile access form essentially the way state law works is that if there is a snowmobile operator that is using a snowmobile he has to or she has to have or they have to have permission from every property owner to allow them to use a trail if the trail goes through every property or the snowmobile operator has to be a member of a vast approved club the vast is insured and they extend insurance protections to property owners uh some of these snowmobile trails travel through town property and we currently do not have a form to provide approval to vast club members so that they can use the trails that run through town property so uh if the board were to entertain the opportunity or the request to sign on to this form so that we can partner with vast the town would decrease its liability because vast would protect the town if any vast members have an accident on town property or something were to happen um essentially it's it's a good thing for us to be partnered with vast on on this issue so there are vast trails currently going through town property is that correct they're actually over here yeah well it actually goes through the forest and on a class four okay that's what i thought okay no they don't need it for the class four road it's under the trail that's my gosh we went through it when we were kids um but it was on a call on a site for a meeting for another town and their attorney was recommending that they sign this and have it on record and i think the major benefit to this is if anything ever happened the vast has to defend the town so if an incident happened we wouldn't have to pay an attorney if there was a case or anything it would all be under vast and their responsibility so we are covered by the recreation law out there from liability but what this gives us is somebody else happened to fight the case instead of us happening for it that makes total sense and this is trinity this is the only for trails it's only trails that are part of the statewide trail system so what happens is you have a local club and in this case it's the middle valley polar bears that are over here in east randa and they go out and establish the trails and maintain them they just dumped a sizable chunk of change into this one and they they do all the grooming and all the maintenance and and they're used by cross-country skiers and my seat dogs letters have been added to this but sometimes folks are out just walking them even so there are other users than just the snowmobilers but it is the snowmobile group that does the maintenance and the upkeep of them i didn't get a copy of the form did everybody else it was in the last packet the doffa sent us just earlier today i went through it what's the problem today now i got it flash packet and presumably we would grant permission for all three activities rights no mobile and cross country and dogs letting them in there's no reason why we would preclude any of those is there no in the past you mean in the past yeah well in the past what had always happened was when this is all established the local clubs would go to the select board to ask for the use to travel like on a road or through like in this particular case we're trainees talking about us through the town forest but wasn't that that was an old class for a road so part of it is on class for pretty part of it is like real big back in the 80s right so now you know what liability the situation the way it is you know it's just another layer of protection i'm sure you've all heard about the snowmobile that burned down the covered bridge maybe or maybe not i'm not sure sure where it was and i'm not sure if it was a vast trail but you know snowmobile caught fire in a bridge somehow burned a covered bridge down it'll be interesting to see how that shakes out but it was in Troy and was it um i figured you might know the rider actually had coverage so their insurance company is probably going oh no i'm gonna be buying a covered bridge just put a half million dollars into rehabbing the bridge that's going to show up in a century insurance ad one of these days on tv be like whatever it is you know state the farm family one or something yep we cover that anyway it's a it's a it's a good policy to do so i'll um i'll move that we adopt the landowner permission form of vast for all trails moving through town properties second we have to desing need somebody to sign it oh yeah it could be a dolphin you agree with that tom yeah i'm fine with that authorize the dolphins the town manager to sign it motion on the table all those in favor hi post stained ocean carry next up is the the trans mileage certificate uh yes this is uh an annual certification process that the town to have to participate in uh we have not had any changes in our mileage since the roadway classification process of over a year ago the board would just have to accept the form as is and authorize we actually believe it requires a signature of a board member and once we have a board member signature we could resubmit but we just just everybody knows we are resubmitting a form with no changes just confirming our existing road mileage sounds like you need to bring another pen during the pile up my link fine right now is another highlighter so i got dig deeper any questions on the certification form any motions sir i'd make a motion to approve the certification highway mileage for the year ending february 10th 2021 i'll second that one okay all those in favor hi hi hi post stained motion carries next up is a better connections downtown master plan we have josh our economic development director on the call and he's been taking the lead on uh this particular project and a few others um so uh josh you ready yeah um the better connections grant um is a grant through v-trans and the agency of commerce and community development um it's a it's a two-year cycle um and they don't uh the pool of funds is only about 200 000 so they only anticipate awarding uh two or three grants each cycle and these funds are intended to be used for planning purposes like a master plan downtown master plan so the planning commission um earlier this month or or maybe it was late january discussed this um and voted to move forward with an application uh and i've been working with julie eiflind from r-e-c-d-c to review the materials and to start to put together the application um we have a sort of a description project description um that we're sort of loosely basing it off from um and uh tentative project scope right now which because it's a downtown master plan we're looking at it as sort of like a hub and spoke kind of scope where the core of the of the focus area is the designated downtown the downtown area um the neighborhoods around uh the downtown um with um uh transportation corridors um leading to the south um down past shahs possibly to the beanville road intersection um and then northward um up towards uh the reservoir um and surrounding neighborhoods up there um and the goal is to identify uh the goal is um to do a robust community engagement process these these grant periods are 18 months um and so this this project would would take up a good chunk of those 18 months um and it would be based on a robust community engagement um to get feedback um around a series of um topics uh like pedestrian bicycle traffic vehicular traffic um the use of parking lots um it would look at uh underutilized parcels um in the focus area um and you know potential redevelopment uses um for them it would look at beautification components of the scope area so there might be conversations about places to have pocket parks or additional recreational um places um that the uh that can be installed um and and then another component um which would be how do we safely connect the um trail systems recreational trail systems that we have outside of the village to safely connect them to the downtown that has been something that has been talked about um that i've heard in the community and something that builds off from the the good work that's already been done uh with rasta um in the gear house um in that sector so um those would be sort of like some of the focus areas you know focusing on multimodal transportation um and revitalization of uh blighted properties um underutilized parcels um and the final piece would be sort of like a marketing analysis so typically these master plans will have a baseline economic data and it will look at some market trends um and help provide us with some tools that we could use to look at new branding initiatives um and new messaging um and this this sort of work this plan um would really be used by a lot of the the town and a lot of the organizations um in the community to to show potential funders um that there's a there's been a robust community process um when they're seeking funding for um their programs so um it would involve a steering committee and typically a steering committee would be comprised of you know maybe one or two select board members one or two planning commission members maybe an individual from two rivers um they always include an individual from accd um and vtrans the two individuals who run this program um and maybe a couple other individuals um and then I would anticipate maybe some subcommittees um when they're doing ad hoc work throughout the project and of course the community engagement piece um takes a lot of effort um and certainly you know during COVID it would be a little different um but I know that um these happened um over the last couple years and there was um one of them fairly was awarded one in 2019 um and they did community engagement work um last year um to do to implement some of the some of the pilot tests that were identified in that process so I think it's something that uh I don't think Randolph has ever engaged in um before uh and would be uh some some really good material to help um with economic development efforts for the next 10 years. Great thanks Josh. Anybody have any questions on this effort? I have a couple um would this look at the possibility of expanding the downtown designated area if that was advisable? I don't think that would be something that would be looked at I mean it's I guess it's it's I guess it's possible but um I don't I don't I'm not quite sure if that would be a huge component of that. It could be part of the process so if people felt it needed to be. I guess if people felt that there was a need to expand it because there were economic benefits to doing it um then I I I guess so but um all of the the master plans that I've seen I've not seen that sort of um sort of piece in it but totally not out of the realm of looking at. And the product would be a written report or it would be a written report um they vary you know in size you know um feralies or I should say um you know virgin's master plan you know might be 60 70 pages um chesters master plan I think was 150 so I think it thing it varies on the consultants that are utilized for the project. I think getting public input like this is a great idea well that's the main that's one of the main goals um of the program because um you need to have robust community engagement it's expected um and that's why the value of the plan is so great when you're when you're showing it to funders because it's been based on deep community engagement and reflects the will of community members through a you know a very long um and thoughtful process thank you yep any other questions if not a motion Trini can I say something it's Heidi yeah go ahead hi um I just want to say too that I hope that the recreation department and the committee is also in kind of involved I know Farley uh the rec commission was greatly involved in that kind of master plan um so definitely that's our committee is also working a lot of signage and stuff with our parks so yeah absolutely yeah no it was I mean filling out some of the forms today I put down the Randolph rec committee as one of the stakeholders so um we fully anticipate that they would be involved in the community engagement process thank you I just didn't hear it so that's why I just wanted to remind it thank you yep any other questions comments motions almost that we grant approval for veterans who's downtown master plan grant application second all those in favor hi hi hi closed motion carries next uh downtown transportation designated downtown program uh I'll admit uh Josh and I had spoken earlier about uh identifying some projects within the capital improvement plan that would work um for this project we have not been able to mostly on my part not having had the time to reach out to Josh um there are several meetings that are coming up um of the select board special meetings and also the um the organization meeting early next month if the board would prefer since we do not have a project specifically to present to the board today we could start working on a project start working potentially on an application in the hopes that the board authorizes us to apply um in any one of the upcoming special meetings or even the reorganization meeting the deadline for the application is March 8th so it's three days or so before the normal march meeting but it is after the organization reorganization so there are opportunities where we can present the project to the board anybody have anything more they need to know on that that's how we got the money from merchants row right that's right yeah it's the same pot of money we're able to have two grants at the same time so um we anticipate completing merchant row and pleasant street pleasant sheets already done uh we anticipate completing merchant row before um May really depending on the thawing of the ground uh so we are able to have two of these grants out at the same time golf is this different than the than the bike kind of grant that came to our attention recently it is a different grant um i have not had a time to look up the requirements for that other grant but it is two separate grants one is um a grant that we can use at any part of the state but this particular grant um the down the the downtown transportation grant is specifically only for the designated downtown okay well the person who administers the bike type grant seem to think that we should consider applying for that one uh we can't yeah we have i'd have to see i i don't yeah i just uh i i didn't look at the grant and i don't know what we have that would apply for it but josh and i can put our heads together and at one of the upcoming special meetings we could potentially propose a project okay i also have some ideas we might use that grant money for okay okay good libraries transforming communities this was a request made by kimball library they identified this grant that would uh potentially award them three thousand dollars to um to create and host community engagement projects um don't believe they have the projects yet but would use the grant to help create some of the community engagement projects so they could help josh yeah yeah they could any questions on the grant any any motions i'll move to approve the library's transforming communities grant applications and kimball library i'll second all those in favor hi hi host motion carries old business uh none to share today other business um i just have a question on behalf of the arts and culture advisory committee to which i'm the liaison um and that is at the reorganization meeting uh i'm presuming that the nine people who want to step forward and continue serving on it need to be reappointed for a year is that correct that's correct huh and we have had a change in leadership i've stepped down as chair of that committee and i'm just serving as the select board liaison and susanne revel has come back on the committee uh after taking about a 10 month um break and she's now chairing the committee so i will act their meeting the uh monday before the reorganization meeting so if i ask them to submit a list of nine uh candidates for appointment for the next year will that be timely enough uh yes okay yeah that's what i'll do that um they also usually folks send in their own request but um i can go either way but the reason why we got everybody all as one was because we created that committee new right is there any problem with them with the committee just submitting a list of nine people then um there isn't but we should still also add it out there in case there's somebody you're not capturing okay right so or maybe somebody in the in the you know out there that's got an interest that that committee isn't aware of and how should we go about how should the committee go about soliciting those interests just a public notice on the website or that's something that the town does oh okay well there is one opening right now um because abby tongs from huggable mug has stepped off and because i stepped off as chair that enabled uh susanna to come back on but there is one opening so i don't uh i don't know how you want to handle that in terms of how we notice it but um um yeah let me know uh well you and i can maybe talk tomorrow about that position i know there are other vacancies and other committees and right um this is roughly about the time when we start reminding the town that we have vacancies and we have committees and any interests to reach out to us yeah and then the only other question i had is what's the status of the town report is that the printer it is we approved the final proof um and the report should currently be in the process of being printed how are we going to distribute that this year but the same methods as always you pick it up at town hall or we typically distribute to different locations the general stores the bowling alley if you have some here at town hall library yeah we play some where people typically do congregate right i guess they can't congregate now but we'll go to yeah yeah i didn't know if it was going to be changed by covid or anything like that but it sounds pretty fairly straightforward yeah any other other business managers report uh i just have a few a few items one is i've been working with the channel center for the arts they informed me that they're looking to upgrade their internet service um we have two free internet connections because of our partnership with ec5 or because they installed the one of their servers here at town hall um our existing facilities already have the internet capacity that they need the only other location that we could have installed this second free services at the village fire station um and they even told they told us that they like what they have and it's a direct connection they would prefer not to have it so uh i've been working with channeler on potentially because they are already looking to upgrade potentially seeing if this service would work for them so it could continue partnership with the town decrease their costs uh roughly at a savings of you know two thousand dollars for the year but so another way for us to partner with them and they can work with us so that's still a conversation that's happening it's certainly not final until we bring it to the board uh i will soon start to work on scheduling public meetings for the residents on highland avenue and maple street to share with them the proposed detour uh time frame for when the culvert on beamville road is going to be replaced when i have those potential dates out uh few weeks out i'll share them with the board through email so that you know of those dates and you can find a way to invite everyone on those roads so that they know that a detour is going to have to cut through their road for roughly about three weeks to four tops uh and then the last item is that i have not received a response from international unity of public employees regarding our response to their request i'm not entirely sure if they will respond to our request but we have we have not received one yet and that is all i have for the manager's report this week okay i don't know if i have a question uh we talked to cup several times about asking the northfield savings bank people who are investing our money in to talk to us after having done that now for almost two years could we do that oh yes i'm sorry i forgot about that request uh yes um um we can't yeah absolutely thank you anything else in uh manager's report no that that is everything great uh seeing no reason for executive session motion to adjourn i'll second seems to be my task i think we should just make it permanent uh the official second you're assuming you're assuming i i want to second everything you're kind of a go along kind of guy right you well i try to be i'm not sure that uh it'll work yeah i'm not sure that uh well i'll let it go at that it's gonna say it might have been some people here earlier this evening it don't see me that way all right we have a motion and a second to adjourn all those in favor hi no takers on the opposition motion carries take care okay everyone good night bye bye i know