Welcome back to the ITU headquarters here in Geneva, which is of course hosting the AI for Good Global Summit. And here on the first day, we're in the afternoon session, I'm very pleased to have Nicholas Davis with me. He's head of society and innovation for the World Economic Forum, who of course have Davos under their umbrella organisation. So tell me Nicholas, what have you come here to achieve or listen to? Why are you here? We live at a really important time in history in terms of the development of a range of emerging technologies and artificial intelligence is probably one of the most obvious and transformative of them. And so the discussions here today represent this moment where we can start to talk about the potential impacts, not just on the people who are lucky enough to live in Geneva or come to a conference in Geneva, but the impacts on the vulnerable populations, people, citizens of developing countries around the world and indeed the environment and future generations, who don't have as much voice or say in the kind of decisions that are being made by the companies, researchers and individuals who are developing artificial intelligence today. How can you legislate big data? I don't think it's about legislation. It's much more around a range of governance ideas here. So governance is ripped broadly. We know that when any technology bursts onto the scene, very quickly how we adopt that technology and how we use that is about social norms as much as it is around any rules or regulation. It's about the design principles of the people that actually code and release the products in different ways, whether that's a mug or a chair or indeed a bot or an app on your phone. So having the discussions about, well, how accessible is this application? What are the second order impacts or unintended consequences of a type of artificial intelligence that perhaps seems to improve efficiency but takes power away from someone in other ways or indeed setting a necessary connectivity standard or education standard even to use it could be problematic further down the line and could increase things like the digital divide.  I don't know if you agree with that or not, but could you take developing countries and say actually a possibility for them to actually finally make the way up and compete with the rest? I think the greatest social injustice of any industrial revolution has been the fact that most people are left out of them and that's been true since the mid-18th century in the first industrial revolution which started in Great Britain. Certainly the hope of discussions that we're having here in Geneva today and in many other AI driven conferences and dialogues are that here we might have the opportunity to leapfrog in a way and finally deliver true benefits in an open sense. Those things do not happen without forethought and investment and institutional kind of planning in different ways. You can't predetermine these things but you can have the right kind of nudges and dialogues and I think it's fantastic that the many various stakeholders that are participating here at the ITU are actually open and willing to say well how do we make sure that AI systems benefit a person in Botswana or in Ghana as much as they do someone in the Bay Area in California? Now of course Nick, I've mentioned Davos. You often have the elite coming to Davos to talk whether it's the business community, political community, they're the ones you have to convince to share this AI with the rest of the world or that digital divide. That's not easy is it? I actually think that the openness for people to say we are at an opportunity at a moment in time where these things can be used in general to close the gap in inequality rather than exacerbate it. That appetite is huge right now and indeed at the World Economic Forum's annual meeting in Davos this year like last year Oxfam released their report on inequality showing that just eight people in the world hold the same wealth as the bottom half of the world's population, more than three and a half billion people. And so these things are on the agenda. Celil Shetty from Amnesty International who was on the stage here was also working with us in Davos this year focusing on the human rights of artificial intelligence. I think that it's not about convincing anyone it's much more around finding ideas and ways forward of practical solutions to say okay what's different this time about the way we develop or release technology that can actually practically help the people who traditionally have less voice, less power in the process. And I guess if they have more power than everybody benefits? Well the first thing we know from the digital revolution, the third industrial revolution is that the more people who can participate in open systems providing their ideas and creating value together the better. It is actually more beneficial to have more people on platforms sharing and working together and the great thing about many of the technologies we're talking about here like artificial intelligence is that there's a very small marginal cost in having an additional person on that platform. So small additional energy cost we hope that's recouped by efficiency No I think that it is there is a very very convincing argument here that the more the better the more the merrier but as we do that making sure that we don't create new stratification, new inequalities particularly in people who may not be able to access any content that's relevant to them at all. The last question I've got here is the World Economic Forum doesn't have legislative power what you can only do is lobbying I guess. What can you achieve? I think the most important thing here is to think about the wide range of governance ideas that are open now to companies to individuals like you and me or indeed to governments as well without having to go down the route of saying everything is around either a funded government program or legislation. In fact we know from the history of technology that most things evolve and emerge as social norms, as informal agreements or just as investment decisions and infrastructure that gets built up over time. So I guess the real point of these conversations is to say how do we imagine the city of the future together and what does that look like with AI determining our future transport systems not just in Boston where they're currently running trials for autonomous vehicles but in countries where road infrastructure at the moment is not really conducive to our current relatively narrow AI systems on the road. How do we make sure that Nairobi has as much chance of getting the benefits of lowering congestion and cleaner, more efficient transport than Austin, Texas does? Interesting thought. Nicholas Davis, head of society innovation at the World Economic Forum, just been joining me here on the first day. Thanks very much. Thank you Chris.


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So we're going to move on to the final topic, and Breath of the Wild doesn't have the only game to switch as. Totally kill. Wait, really? So, blast for me. Before we talk about some other games, let's just go over quickly what each of us got on launch day. Okay? Obviously we got the switches. I mean, that's to give them, but like what additional stuff did they get? In fact, what version of the switch did we get to get the neons, etc. Obviously you guys all know that Eric and I got the greys, but let's start with, how Eric, let's start with you. What did you get day one? I got the switch obviously, the special edition, Breath of the Wild, and the collector's edition guidebook. Okay? Oh, Anna's. Scrumper. Scrumper. Oh yeah, Anna's scrumper. Scrumper. Oh yeah. Yeah. Did Anna really count that? Is that all you got? Yeah. Yeah. That's all you got. Oh, and the DLC, sorry. Yeah. Okay. Mason, what did you get day one? All right, so just to make it clear, I have a lot of money, I just don't know what to spend on, so I kind of chose that night. So that's what work does for you when you still live at home, but my point is okay, I got a gray switch, a neon set of Joy-Cons, Breath of the Wild, special edition, a pro controller, the collector's guide for Breath of the Wild, one to switch, the Zelda Amiibo, and I think that's it. Nice. I think. Yeah. That's it. So, that's going to be pretty similar to Rygex, because I got the gray switch because that's all they had available. I did technically already have purchased these blue set of Joy-Cons here, but they hadn't arrived yet. So I'm going to count it as a day one purchase because I purchased it before day one. They arrived on the following Monday. So I had the extra set of Joy-Cons. I got the pro controller, obviously, I had the Breath of the Wild special edition, all the Breath of the Wild Amiibo, which you can see a bunch of them out here, including the Wolf Link one, since that's usable in Breath of the Wild. I got, what else did I get? I got the free poster that came with GameStop for Breath of the Wild going on. Oh, yeah. I got the collector's edition guidebook from GameStop, not the giant massive one that's on Amazon that doesn't even come out to the end of the month. I would like to get my hands on that one, but we'll see if that happens. I don't have as much money as Mason just laying around living with my parents. But that's okay. There was a time in my life when I did. I'm just way past that time. I'm trying to think of anything else. I got the screen protector. I'm still waiting on a charge grip that I should have got day one. I purchased it, but now they don't have any more left, so I'm waiting for them to get more in stock. But whatever. That is what it is. That's as much my fault as it is GameStop's fault. And that might be it. I'm trying to think of if there was anything else. Oh, I got Snipperclips. I don't know if I'm getting that game one. Yeah, I got that too. I was going to mention that. I forgot. I got that digital. I wish I would have just bought it at GameStop because then I could have got my points. Oh, yeah. Because there was no bonus for buying it through the eShop. I couldn't have just bought a digital card for them to enter the code. Do they actually have physical copies of it? No, no, no. But you can buy digital codes through them. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah. Yeah. So like any digital game, like what I used to do on Wii U, is like, especially back when the Wii U had that 10% point bonus or whatever it was. What you would do is you could buy it through GameStop, right? And you would get your points for spending your money at GameStop. And then when you enter the code and on the switch, you'd also get your points on your Nintendo for it. Nice. With the bonus. That makes sense. Yeah. So like you could actually double up your points that way. I'm two different systems. So it was kind of cool. So yeah, it's something that I should have done with Snipercuts, but I didn't. And then this wasn't day one, but like two days later I got Just Dance 2017 because that's my primary workout method right now. I realized I'm not getting out of the house much since I bought the switch. So every now and then I'll be playing. Okay, it's been about an hour and a half for a little while. Let me switch over to Just Dance quick and do like, you know, a quick few songs quick and get my heart rate up. Especially now that the window in my office works so I can actually cool down a bit better. It's been kind of, it's been kind of nice. But yeah, there really isn't anything else I got. Thought about getting the headset. Decided again since we don't really know how things are going to work with talking right now beyond. Supposedly it's through a phone app. I hope I can do it native with my system as well. But again, Nintendo's not talking about it. So let's just talk briefly about some other games on the switch. Eric doesn't have much experience with anything right now besides Breath of the Wild and a touch of Snipercuts. Like a few minutes of it while we were playing another game at a different system. We're not nerds, I swear. Not at all. Not at all. I'm not sitting here with my multi-screen setup watching a basketball game while I'm playing. Yeah, that's kind of what I've been zoning out on. So sorry people. Ignore you. Yeah, my Milwaukee Box is sure to wear and I'm pretty sure they're lost. Which ends their sixth game when you stream. What a pain. But because it's been brought up a lot by Mr. Mason already. Let's talk a little bit about one-two switch. Yes. I see you're really excited. I am, no. Usually when I just say yes, I'm just confident in what I'm going to say. I already have everything playing out in my head but I don't want to talk about stuff. So, yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, so I'll briefly go over my experience of one-two switch before I hand it over to you. And one thing I haven't done on one-two switch yet, because I've only played one-two switch against kids. It's not fair. It means basically 25 of the 28 games I'm going to beat them in every time.  No, 25 of the 28 games I'm going to beat them in every time because I understand how it works better than they do. And these are kids between ages 6 all the way up to 11. And the fact that there were some 10-year-olds and 11-year-olds that just didn't get it is I don't know if one-two switch really resonates with children. I don't think it's going to. So I don't know how much of a family game it is, because some of the concepts are hard. Like, there's our one mini-game in it. Well, they're all mini-games. But this one game in it where you have to twist the joy-con like you're doing a locker. Like, you have to get the three spots on the locker. Kids didn't understand it. Because they don't use those kind of locks that people are. Well, it's like, what do we mean? I'm like, oh, you're in elementary school. You don't even have real lockers. So it's just so weird. And a lot of games feel that way. Where even when they do understand it, they're not that good at it. And I don't see them getting better at practice until they're older. Now, there are certain games that I'm pretty much always going to lose to kids. As I said, 25 of the games I'm always going to beat them. But there are three games that I'm probably never going to beat them in. One is the running to get the flag. They just have a lot more energy than I do. A lot more energy. I do not have the energy level or the stamina to keep up with how fast those kids can move their arms and legs. And they're a heck of a lot more in shape than you are. The other one is runway. Where you have to walk the catwalk on the runway and stuff. I did end up winning one match, but I almost had to throw out my hip to do it. So don't know how many more of those ones I'm going to win. I've lost a lot of those ones. And then what was the other one? There's one other game that I just baffled me I kept losing. Quickdraw. Quickdraw. They just have faster reflexes than me. Period. And they understand that game. No problem. Ready, steady, fight. I'm done. Before they even finished the word I haven't even fired yet and they already hit me. My only hope is that they hit the ground instead of me because they were too quick on the trigger. They also don't have as far up to go as you do either. I don't care. Reaction time. They're just a lot faster. But again, reaction time wise kids should be faster. Our reaction times and reflexes actually only get worse as we age. They don't get better. So that's why you see most professional gamers are between the ages of like 15 and 28. Once you get past that your reflexes are on as fast. Especially in like Twitch like games like when you have to play the League of Legends or something. Still it is just a very interesting experience I've had. As I said I've only played it with children so it hasn't been exactly fun because I'm either just dominating them or I'm playing the three games I can't win. So like it's cool as it is to be like yeah dominating these kids baby.  Like I know when I play Monopoly against like my 6 year old daughter I know I could destroy her Monopoly if I want to but like I feel bad doing it.  What do you mean I feel bad? I feel bad because like this kid there that like loves basketball and is really cocky about it and thinks they can just like run circles around them and just wreck them just stuff every shot they do or like they'll try to body and just try dragging me and I'll still make the shot and I'm just like well we didn't think you were good I'm like no one thinks I'm good because I'm a fricking bowling ball but like I know what I'm doing and it's just like I'm just bigger stronger and I've been playing this game a lot longer than you and I can pretty much say that with every sport and all the things you can do better than me you can run probably faster than me or if not faster longer distances than I can and that's great I don't care about that even when we play soccer I'm probably still better than you and it's not because I'm trying to like be cocky about it it's just because you're a kid I literally just have to like stick my stomach out and you're gonna fly off and that's not a penalty on me you're running into me so like it's not fair and so I haven't played it in a situation that's fair which is one reason why I do want to get a recording I want to do a video of us playing the game Eric and I where we make a little game out of it whether it's we have to eat these certain foods for every mini game we lose or you know I'd say make it into a drinking game I don't know how drunk you are I have fun doing that maybe that's something I'll do with Yulia sometimes she likes drinking do that maybe with my girlfriend if we get some babysitter sometime before we go out be like hey hon before we go out let's record us playing this game and we have to do a shot for every time we lose and then there's I just want to make a game out of it maybe throw in some of our Madden trades in there oh you can extra trade this season if you win overall but again I haven't experienced it in that situation yet it's just been playing against children so to me it's been very unfulfilling the only thing I think it's nice about it is it does prove HD Rumble yes that was a big thing Nintendo advertised it's a legit thing it exists HD Rumble is real they're not yanking your leg can we talk about how insane that ball count game is that ball count game man it blew my mind I played that and I was like what is going on yeah it feels like a bull in the box it feels like you think it should feel it's crazy it is insane that game that just overall one thing I say is fun about this game and I think this is what's going to make it fun for Eric and I is that almost every single game you never look at the screen and it says look into each other's eyes there's a game where you spin plates and you are encouraged to try to knock the other guys plate down it's going to turn into all our wrestling matches as we try to keep our things pointed up and twisting as I'm trying to knock his arm the game encourages this stuff there's a soda shaking game where you hand it off so it blows up in his face instead of yours it's there's games I can see as being a lot of fun I just have an experience in a situation where it is fun which sucks but man that HD rumble that ball count game even the soda game when it explodes just I don't know if HD rumble is going to be a thing that changes gaming in any significant way I don't know if anyone is really going to take advantage of it even the company is like oh we're going to have HD rumble that's great it doesn't work exactly like Nintendo advertised it a little strange where they said like oh you could feel water pouring into a glass that's not what I feel I don't think if they made a game about pouring water in the glasses I would actually feel the water coming into the glass but in many situations it feels like it should that ball count game is a perfect example of this is just amazing I have no idea how you can use this in any practical sense in a real video game see the thing is I saw that and I'm like that's insane so I tried it my jaw dropped to the ground and I'm like okay I got to look this up so I saw a picture of a disassemble joy con there's nothing in it that could replicate that actual feeling I like there's no little marbles they have stationed in some little area for this one specific game no this is a battery this is wires and cords there's nothing there's like three little rumble things it's insane it blows my mind like if I should have recorded my initial reaction like I literally my jaw was dropped as low as it could possibly go I was just shocked I was speechless I'm guessing you really really love one too so see it's like I I don't think it's worth the $50 like a lot of people don't but I would pay like maybe 35 at the most it's just like I'm a sucker for party games so Mario Party's kind of my thing and we party stuff like that so once you switch it's kind of something I wasn't more excited for than a lot of other people and like a few certain minigames really make that a special game for me just like the ball count and quick draws fun is it your favorite launch game besides all the I wouldn't say favorite it's my third favorite I will say that Snipperclips is my second oh my gosh Snipperclips yes Snipperclips Snipperclips is a game I get to play with kids but I played a tongue with like an actual adult I didn't play a three player yet I've only done four or two player dude Snipperclips is amazing it is I would pay I would almost pay the 50 bucks for Snipperclips I like if they swapped out the $20 price tag with the 51 $50 for Snipperclips $20 for once you switch I would do that Snipperclips is so good it's such a simple concept why hasn't a game like this existed before I mean I guess the current kitchen consoles there's nothing Snipperclips is doing that's like oh it's unique to the switch no it's just such a brilliant such a brilliant concept right I just I'm in shock there's so many unique ways like in all the different ways you can solve everything like you don't have to ever solve anything the same way twice it's just it's so crazy to me how they made that all work it is it you know if you had to summarize what Snipperclips is in three sentences what would you say oh goodness let's see okay here's time for some improv two characters are who you play as Snipperclip your way to victory form shapes out of one another to get to the goal there we go so for those of you who know Snipperclips is a puzzle game yeah an interactive puzzle game it's so good it's amazing like if you I will say single player isn't that much fun no I don't I don't like single player yeah I play single player it is a game meant to be played with at least two people it's single player is doable everything is doable with single player but it's almost like it's almost like some people said they felt with Triforce Heroes I didn't feel this way because I highly enjoyed Triforce Heroes single player but some people said that like Triforce Heroes wasn't that fun single player but multiplayer is where it's at that's what the game is built for it was built for with multiplayer Snipperclips again literally built for multiplayer but they let you play single player I almost feel like Snipperclips single player shouldn't even be an option it should literally just be a two to four player game and even if you did want to play by yourself just take the joy-con's off you can so many of those puzzles you could pick up one joy-con do one thing then pick up the other joy-con do another but in this game and it's kind of cool like some challenges you can make for yourself I don't know if it was kind of funny but there was some group out there some podcast I was watching that said yeah so you know like that one basketball one where it drops down and you try to get in the hoop on the very first basketball challenge so we just had to make it harder where we were going to say when we hit that button we wanted to bounce one time and get into the hoop and it's like how the heck are we going to make it work and how are we going to bounce one time and get into the hoop like that doesn't even occur to me like adding additional challenges to it to make it even more interesting I feel like it's no go ahead sorry go for it I was going to say I think it's going to end up going well it's going to be one of those low-key games that just dominates like it's going to do so much better it's going to get sequels and all that good stuff but most importantly I feel like it's going to be a game people look back on in a way they do to Mario Party how it's like you get mad at your friends because you can just walk by and cut your friend in half and keep going with your day it's a fun competitive edge to it that makes it fun I get frustrated I really wanted you to do this one thing Snip snip snip snip Are you going to listen yet? It's like a competitive edge on the teamwork you're supposed to be having and it's the best I love it like yeah I like it yeah Snipper Clips is by far my not counting Zelda my other favorite launch game you know as I said I haven't played One Two Switch in a situation yet to appreciate it I will say this I don't think because One Two Switch is obviously the the other most advertised game I think for launch yeah I can agree with that and I think One Two Switch is problem one it's price I don't think anybody who's played it even people who absolutely love it think 50 bucks is worth it for 28 minigames I'm guessing you're one of the ones that think it should be a pack-in it definitely should be a pack-in I don't know why it's not a pack-in that was a bad idea on that part I was like I don't understand I was like well you're going to look at the value proposition and like if we win in a pack-in we'd have to make it $350 no you don't you just eat the cost of One Two Switch I mean you got to think about it from a perspective that there's 28 minigames and it's $50 like it's like saying you're going to pay about $2 for each minigame almost roughly yeah I get there was like One Two Switch is a proven game right yeah like just like Nintendo Land was just like Wii Sports was Nintendo Switch is a proven game for the technology of the system so unlike other proven games is it not a pack-in everyone should just have it for free like I hate Nintendo's excuse that oh well we'd have to increase the price of the console of $350 no you don't you just this is the game that proves everything the system can do you just throw it in and cut your losses I just don't understand why it's not a pack-in game and maybe I'm more angry about it than it should be but I feel like One Two Switch does a lot of cool things in the HD rumble that no one else is ever going to do because most people aren't going to experience it well yeah don't make me angry because they don't want to buy it because it's too much yeah they don't want to spend $50 on it and even when it's discounted down to $20 someday as a Switch Classic even though it's probably not going to have close to the sales to become a Classic Nintendo is going to make it one anyways because they want to push sales of it I still don't think people are going to buy it there's nothing super appealing about the game on its own but once you play it you start realizing ah just like that ball count game oh this is amazing well people aren't going to care to get to that point where they see it's amazing because it's not a game that um you know like I said I heard a lot of people say well dude this would be such a fun game to get how much people do it and have a party game I'm like yeah if everyone is silent because so much of the game you need to be quiet and use your ears and listen even the quick draw you need to listen for one that says fire if all your buddies are chitchat and have a good time in the background you're going to have a hard time hearing that well there's quick draw and then there's fake draw fake draw is the one that has the other words before the fire most of the games have a point where it says start um there's like the gorilla game where you have to copy an audible pattern there is the badminton game which you literally need to listen for the ball yeah like so it's not a good party game you can't actually have a party going on while you're playing the game everyone has to shut up it's like a movie where everyone just has to be quiet except for the two people playing it's just one of those it's weird it's really really weird cause every advertisement for it makes it feel like it's a party game but nothing about how the games work is party every advertisement I've seen is like playing it outside is everyone having an outdoor cooking and also it's like how are they playing this and hearing what's happening one thing to mention I think is that with my experience with the console I mean in portable mode it is pretty loud I think but in terms of having a bunch of people around you not so much I don't think it would be yeah that's what I'm saying like in portable mode especially soft like the advertisements with it outside even when it's on your TV like what am I going to have to have the thing cranked up to 100 in order to hear it which is bad for your ears like I it's just not the way they're advertising it in real world situations doesn't work the way I think it's cool to think about it working that way but there's too many audio cues I think they're intending it to be that way but yeah like when it's a game where you're supposed to focus on the other player and then use your ears as it is your other sense that's not good the way this game is set up isn't good that way I mean some games are going to work fine obviously like the samurai game catching the sword that's all fine whatever you're not listening for audio cues on that right you're watching the other person but so many of the games you listen to audio cues so to me it feels like this is just a proof of concept game I can't imagine want to switch cost enough money for them to make for to be a $50 game I mean Breath of the Wild is probably a $200 million investment by Nintendo and that's 60 bucks so you're telling me once you switch was a $50 million game so they charge 50 bucks for it didn't they have to sell like $2 million or something to break even yeah like that's that's dumb it feels like this is just a game that they would have been making it feels like they would have made this game regardless of anything just like with the Nintendo Land because they're just testing out the technology and these are the games they came up with while they were testing it I also think it's interesting how you mentioned that your kids don't understand it all that well depending on their age and stuff but they really haven't just had any kids in the trailers or anything for it it's been always adults which I think it's kind of interesting to see you know the thing is I think primarily adults are what are buying the Switch to be honest I think about what games that launch really appeal to kids maybe just to answer but that's on everything so so like yeah even Eric's like what I'm like did you know actually on the Switch and I think on the other consoles you can use your phone as a controller huh yeah so like if I like I have four Joy-Cons if I want to add two more dancers to it you got smart phones and you got your extra dancers it's got download the app but yeah it's not a system to me that appeals to kids in the moment I think like when I've had it at work I've seen elementary kids think it's cool but outside of Just Dance they really don't get it and of course they get Just Dance cause it's been around forever they were playing it on their Wii's and stuff but they were little or last year when I had the Wii U they understand how that works but a lot of the one to switch stuff is just whatever even like the one kid Jake he was really excited to play the baseball game I wanted to switch it's fun it's difficult and there was not a single kid there that could hit my fastball even though I really wasn't throwing it that fast it doesn't matter they can't use the audio cues and the timing to hit it whereas I had no problem doing it I was smackin' home runs so it's like yeah it's just not something I think that appeals to kids it doesn't really work in the situation that Nintendo suggested should and they're charging too much money for I mean it's a minigame collection yeah it's a minigame collection that proves the tech of the switch so like I think one to switch is gonna be a blast when Eric and I do it and I think it's gonna make for a highly entertaining video lots of trash talk, lots of fun it's like right up my alley for how Eric and I play games our whole life this is right up our competitive spirit alley it might be a little NS for daddy oh it's okay I don't care if it's not safe it's gonna work that's just gonna be all about having fun and me kicking your ass or you kicking my ass but I think Nintendo really dropped the ball with this game because I think if they made this a pack-in I think you would see a lot more other developers maybe even Nintendo themselves trying to use some of these unique features in the games that they have I think because Wii Sports was included but the Wii you saw a lot of people trying to use motion controls in games you know you saw some uses of the touch screen on Nintendo Land so you saw some other people try to use the touch screen in their games but because the primary game for the system is Breath of the Wild which basically takes advantage of zero of the switch features it's just traditional controls that's how people are gonna primarily make games for the system is traditional controls so like HG Rumble who cares the fact that you can use motion controls who cares I mean technically it is Wii U port so of course it's not gonna take advantage of any of the but it could it theoretically could like I talked about before although I don't think it can work you know the feel of when you dive in water having the HG Rumble make it feel like water is going through your fingers again I don't think HG Rumble can actually do that based on my experience with it but they can do something like they can make it when I get hit by a rock like oh I get hit by the rock on the right side they can have a hard thump on that right side but they know so like there's ways they could have did it but I think because Nintendo didn't include it as a pack and most people aren't gonna play it and I think HG Rumble is gonna end up falling by the wayside which sucks yeah hopefully not it sucks knowing that it's probably cause like what sucks about it too is that that HG Rumble is probably a primary reason these things that is joint guns are $50 a piece $80 for a set yeah like it feels like that's the major tech in these things forget the IR sensor and all the stuff we've had IR sensors like that around for ages this HG Rumble is what's new I don't know maybe by holiday all switches are gonna be bound a little bit with this by then potentially like once your switch doesn't sell well I can see them being like let's just make it a pack in yeah it still doesn't help to people that bought it without it yeah the people that bought it without it were buying a switch anyways Nintendo cares about them yes Nintendo does not care about us oh no we're the people that Nintendo system except for you Breath of the Wild was like okay I don't know I need this in my life right now apparently you need this at your rate of play you need it in your life for the next 5 years yeah that's before the DLC it hits so make it 7 make it by age 40 you'll finally have beaten the game right a decade later only 11 years for good so we're gonna kind of wrap up the podcast there I think it's a good spot to cut off on just because we've kind of on the gamut like there's other games out there we could talk about obviously fast racing Nio I am sense I can always say it wrong that RPG game Setsuna like I heard that game is fantastic I'm trying to even think what other games are on the switch right now I think there was 9 games I saw them in each shot I have 4 of them I'm like 50% of the switch library right now Bomberman and the thing is I heard Bomberman is actually really really good nobody thinks it's worth 50 bucks but apparently it's just because it's short but Bomberman's always been short so like it's not really a knock on the game it's just a knock on the pricing model but still I'm just I'm excited maybe we'll head on this what is the one thing the one game you're looking forward to most coming out that isn't out yet on switch start with Mason on that one for me it would definitely hands down have to be Odyssey coming up soon definitely arms but Odyssey overall because I grew up with Mario my first game was Mario 64 it was about sunshine and galaxies and 3D World and 3D Land weren't my cup of tea they just kind of felt like fake 3D Mario games if that makes any sense so it's going to be really great to go back into a game that Nintendo considers to be like the old roots like Mario 64 and Sunshine just kind of hopefully relive that the experience and the feeling of satisfaction I always had playing those other games so you know game that game totally like literally worshipping the words you're saying right now we're good there we go he took the words right out of my mouth I don't even have to say anything I'm going to be I'm going to make you regret those words the only reason you're going to regret them is because you don't know enough about this game yet ukulele is what I'm looking for okay okay well I don't know like I know that people making the game are like a lot of people that made like banjo kazooie and conquer but there's also people that did work on it and everything I have seen reminds me of those games but I don't know yet if it lives up to those games or if it's kind of a shell of what those games were um but the fact that it potentially could be as good or on par with those games just got has me excited because those were like huge games in my childhood basically there's been nothing like them since yes there's been other 3d platformers but not that not 3d platformers that combine the platforming uh with the unique and funny characters and the pure humor of those games injected into 3d platforming um so I'm really hoping that that this game feels that niche um and again it's an indie game so you know it's a well known indie game but because it's made by former AAA developers but yeah there's that there's actually a bunch of indie games I'm looking forward to the Nintendo when they did that Nindie Direct man I kept looking like every game you're throwing up I want um and I usually don't say that because I'm not a big uh I'm not a big player of those independent games um you know I've said on my phone I play some but I'll say that I really don't purchase a lot of them on consoles or PC's or Steam um but man I think I'm going to end up this is going to be the console I own a whole bunch of of small games on um and I don't even know why I could say ukulele is small it's probably bigger than Super Bomberman R um but I'm excited I'm actually interested in comparing my enjoyment of ukulele to whatever my enjoyment is in Mario Odyssey because they're both basically 3d platformers that go back to the old school ways um and Mario 64 is a very different kind of game than Banjo-Kazooie was even though they were both 3d platformers so I'm really interested to see in how Mario Odyssey and ukulele they're going to hold up now next to each other but I understand like you guys pumped for Mario Odyssey you should be pumped for Mario Odyssey how can you not be um and if I'm going to give I'm going to give like a shout out to maybe one of Nintendo's major games coming out that I'm looking forward to more than Mario Odyssey this is Splatoon 2 yeah that one also like I just feel like like Mario Odyssey deserves all the hype it really does um but between ukulele and Splatoon 2 I don't even know if I'm going to pick up Mario Odyssey at launch unless Nintendo sends us a review copy um I think we're just going to it feels weird saying this now because there's not a lot of games but I feel like I don't have too much to play because remember we also had the major story DLC for worth the while dropping around that time too but I'm still looking to own Mario Odyssey how can you not like I'm saying this now E3 isn't here yet right that's when we're going to hear all the big news about Mario Odyssey um and whatever other games aren't even announced yet that's going to be the fun thing is E3 I'm just so excited for you well that's what's so nice with this E3 last E3 was all about Zelda right and like that was cool like they took a huge risk and it paid off because Zelda apparently was like one of the greatest games I've ever made so like they deservedly got the spotlight um and now this E3 is all about what's next okay we got our Zelda what's next sell us on games it should be it should just be flooded with switch games um so I'm pumped really pumped to see what they're going to do there so that's going to do it for this week's episode of the Nintendo Prime podcast I don't even know what episode we're on at this point because I don't remember what our last episode was we took a week off for launch I think it was 19 I think it was 18 last time but I'm about 100% sure I also want to thank Mason of Delfino for hopping on the podcast it's always nice to have you well thank you very much it's always nice to be here it's always nice to talk about more than Zelda oh yeah I feel like I have a lot to say today no that's good that's good maybe we'll have you on some future podcasts cause it's so experimenting as I said this is the first week we're having a third person on since like the very first podcast so hopefully everything goes well and I can edit this all together if it doesn't well then poop but if it goes well then obviously I'll be looking forward to hopefully get you on some future ones as well maybe even a fourth person if I want to get that crazy we'll see how crazy I want to get with editing and then obviously Mr. Eric it's been a pleasure let's go play some switch some Madden, some food food let's enjoy the rest of our night cause man we haven't hung out in over a week it's unusual for this switch watch actually it has been since switch watch no you came with one time to pick up my kid but that was kind of a wash of it but yeah that was over a week ago we usually hang out a couple times a week folks so like we actually we're friends so let's do that friend thing alright we'll catch you guys next week


Hello, I'm Mike Wolfe. I work for IBM. I work on the power systems primarily and What we've been seeing is people get access to power systems and they haven't some trouble to install it So today I'm going to talk to you a little bit about what's out there that people are interested in and can get How do you get access to these? How do you get them installed? So OpenPower that's a new initiative that's been coming out There's openpower.org you can go out there become a member you can look at their summit see their slide see where they're going It's systems and it's IO. It's memory.  So you're seeing a bunch more systems coming out Producers like Wishtron, Supermicro, Tie-In are starting to make power-based boxes There's also we're coming out with Kappi cards for various Accelerators and things like this to help you get some of these functions Done better. So like with Kappi, there's some 20 solutions It'll show you at ibm.biz.powerkappi There's graphics analysis Some erasure code accelerators for Hadoop things like that So you're interested in this how do you want to get it? Well, you can go buy the systems They tend to be pricey yet. I don't think the open power systems are yet down to the price Or just the guy buys when they have it in his home and stuff We might see something cheaper coming down the road some reference platforms etc. But right now So it's a bit expensive. So if you have a project and you want to run in power There's a couple ways we can do this One is is at ibm. We're very interested in having projects running on our hardware So There's certain ones that uh, we will care enough about that perhaps we'll get you a system So if you contact Jeff shield or myself at ibm Explain your project explain your needs We can work it that way the other way to get it The more common way to get it is we've been working with universities to have systems set up The one I'm most familiar with is Oregon state. They have a A mix where you could get a partition on a machine or more often now they're starting to move to where you just get an instance Um, another one is if you're in South America or closer to there, you can look at unicamp And then there's also one at the university of Bernal. Dan knows more about that. Is that just called the university of Bernal? All right, and then at some point I get the um sign-in sheets on the slide Um, it gave the url for where you go um The other two run the same you basically introduce yourself on there and reduce what the project is You know It comes back to ibm you get a sponsor you get the okay And they touch up so when you're asking for the project you'd also ask, you know, like how much process in power? How much memory how much disk anything like that? and they'll set up the instance and then at and um Which distro do you want now for the for these they're they're going to be running the community one So, you know that the various fedora flavors out there typically they're configuring the latest one not too many people Ask for a older fedora So that's the easiest way to get access and then if you're having problems You can talk to university and then if they can't get you fixed up We typically get you fixed up But let's say you get a system you buy it on your own Or we help supply one for your project You get all racked up you turn on the power. Well, now what how do I get a council? How do I start? Getting this installed So the big thing about these are is there isn't your typical ethernet or your serial connector on the back Uh, we'll send you out an adapter should be in the box. So that's one way to do it um, the other way to do it is um go through the ops panel and On the slides Basically, and it's it's on some IBM fixed central sites as well You can get instructions for doing this and what are the the standard path or the standard IP addresses Because they come with two of them and one of them is just the 169 254 2.140. You set up a computer on the subnet of that And um Then you can talk to it directly once you get into there if you're using an IBM Power eight, uh, we call them our telettas, etc You have an fsp in there. That's one way to do it If you get the open power once you get the open bmc. It's a little bit different but either way you're in there and then You can go in and you can change the IP addresses Which is what most will do get it on your subnet and then while you're in there. There's going to be an ipmi account And that's one where you're going to want to set the password because you're going to use ipmi later Then to connect to these so if you don't want to hook up Your um computer directly to it On the ibm power aids You have our traditional low op panel. So when you look at the front of the server There'll be a little green screen has a little button by it Press the button And you get this little panel comes out has uh, I think two white buttons on either side and then the middle one And you can do it there. So now there It's it's a lot bigger of a hunt. You need a couple of chickens. You make a sacrifice all that stuff But no, I I'm a slide. I have it and it's in small print. It goes through the steps I've mailed them to peter. I can get another people. They're out on ibm central What talks you through going through those menus? And finding the addresses so on each of these boxes. There's actually two Horts on the back. They'll be labeled hmc hmc one hmc two. They'll have an address hook to them These are things you're talking to so once you get the address You can take and plug in to those now Um, you get this weird thing where it'll be hmc one, but you have to remember now That's your each zero hmc two will be each one and get them configured up And then you can get them On the network you're looking for like settings for display Need to be down to like 1024 by 768 maybe my slides here Sorry about this So yeah, then you get the IP address to setup You've got your ipmi password setup. So now you can start getting it to it by the Just the network by doing it my commands So there's also a page and patrick can probably tell you more about this He was just helping us out with one if you're troubleshooting the serial connectors It's basically A hundred and fifteen two for the baud rate eight one and none And then when you have the adapter cable you're hooked in It's another way to get in there again once you're in there you can go and find where to sit your ip address your ipmi address And this is all on ibm fixed central so Now I was just going to talk to you a little bit about the code underneath that that's running it because when you You fire these things up The first thing you're really getting to is is that opal firmware level So jeremy kerr at red hat or at red hat at ibm is The main guy on it. So I've talked to him got some of his slides and basically What it's going to be is you got to understand that what we did was we moved to Basically using linux right down here. So we get all the advantages of having all the device drivers everything else And it should be easier to maintain keep it going So they said uh, they wanted this library concept Always involved through and on behalf of interrupts or linux no interrupts no hidden entry points Um When you look at the opal Interactions, it's much like anything you really see on anything else You've got the very low layer opal stuff And you just build up to the linux kernel and the workload But again that that first layer that opal it it is just linux And um It's out there on github. It's an open project Anybody can contribute to it you can write bugs against it You can look at the code to figure out why it's doing what it's doing to see how you get around it And understand more what they're doing So when that stuff all comes up what you'll see We had this is the pettifood level it so at the pettifood level That's where it's going to show you the current devices you have out there to boot from your your disc or whatever and um The point we were making here was you can do an exit to the shell and you're just add a linux shell And you can start doing your commands So, um, why were they using linux for it? Reuse the core code It's just easier to get all the devices that the network protocols um Got standard input devices So there there's no real mode code And it's just using all the regular libraries and utilities. So when you're in there It shouldn't be learning a whole new set of commands or anything else should be um Very much like anything else you've seen it's out on give github under open power and then pettifood And Then there's also They're out on irc. They have mail lists I'm out on irc when you're having trouble so The big thing that catches people though is right away is getting that ip address so you can get in and stuff and The big thing there is we don't have that standard Serial port so you got to either have your adapter Or you hook a computer in and um Get the network changed that way So are there any questions so far? We just use the standard one that ships in flora and rough just works out The box for the ipmi and the serial ideal answer Because they've never quite got the Pizza Australian extensions upstream right now that that should be up there now what we're seeing Is actually uh, we got some new hardware coming in And it's it's that um Beta levels if you will it's it's non non-released hardware At this point and there they're having some problems Holding the ipmi connection If you have too fast of a network link it's dropping it you lose your console So the solution there was to put it on a slower port And then you had to have the very latest greatest ipmi to get through but in general It's just the standard tool set That the whole focus was was was to just use these tools that Are out there and a lot of other people are going to so with the open power We're we're seeing the whole move to the open or to the bmc and use ipmi to Make it look like other boxes the idea The open bay is if bmc that's come out of facebook I don't know if it's open. I misspoke there. It's It's supposed to be industry standard bmc And just trying to keep it as much like the other boxes that you guys have and make it so you can administer in the same way So did you guys replace open family with limits kernel? More or less. Yeah, so you don't really see the the fsp and the hmc type of code and going to that way it's just having the Especially on the open powers the bmc and then using the ipmi so You don't quite see as much but it does have a lot of your regular sensors Fan control heat a bunch of those you if you have one you can go look at what it is There's web interfaces Too long, you know, you can just plug into them that way the same way as you always did On ibm systems Well, that's before me. I started with power force Maybe change thought even there but the the idea is to just make it simpler. So like even with the net booting It's my understanding it's more like the pixie boot then you can use a lot of those same files and I have to get it all up and running Still does the bootp You can on those systems that have dvds. You can still do the ISO that way Just a lot Any other Questions So patrick, have you run into anything else? What does weirdness that I missed for these guys any kind of warnings what you'd want to watch for? well one thing that Navigate which Oh, you mean the system doesn't power on it's up. You got push like the little white button in the front Yes, even though like someone in the data center might say it's on It's not actually on I've had that a couple of times That system is on When you say it's not Yep Because a lot of these boxes will have dual power supports So you'll have a lot of little blinky late sign to be able to also things like weight on my support So a whole bunch of things if the system has power you get a whole bunch of lights on but it doesn't mean it's working But I mean they should be able to tell because it sounds like a bloody planning stadium so I know poor eights will be that way. I'm hoping that the open poll box is going to quite grow in the fan so much What I'm trying to do is get an faq kind of going on what people are hitting because it has been a couple of the same things and I have seen people That once they get through it the first time it's like, oh, yeah, no problem getting them through it the first time And has been difficult at times And one well and And that's Something that I'm sure Jeremy and those guys will be looking at too because the whole point of this is to cut that down Right. I mean it's we felt we had too high one before And it's supposed to make it all easier yet. We still have it so we're going back and going to continue I mean, it's I know from when I first set up the power eights, even though they were partially set up when I sort of took them over But we had even just issues where the dc would be patching in Like can you go and patch this network into facing and they would go it's patched in and you'd go No, you patched in the wrong one. Okay, we're trying to patch Like you'd want a standard like For running on the server network interface and they would be patching into one of the two Management interfaces all vice versa. Yep. And so Even I think to some degree just Like then having to google through the idm central to try and find a picture of the back of the box So that you can actually work it out for yourself and send send explicit instructions that You know plug it into this one It is in this location and you basically attach an image with a red circle around where you want to plug it Yep And that's some of where I was getting to a confusion about the hmc one and two versus what the east ports are The other thing I've seen is that people get in the first time when you get in the first time It's going to ask you to change the admin password And people change it and then they don't report it up. So when you're working with your Um lab folks, right make sure that they're writing that all down. They're going to have that they're going to hit that They're going to assign it And so now we got to get you back in if they don't there are ways to get you back in but you got to get a whole idm And they'll get you in So that that's been If you have an older version of patty good It's It's looking for images in a very strange way. Yeah, that sorry The version of patty good that patrick is referring to was the Test non-supported one that we had on the power seven plus machine It gave us a little endian kvm support so that we could do a platform bringer. So That is not something that anyone in the real world will actually run into because it was only a handful of those boxes that actually existed Great, and we are working hard to pull the mode of the wild We've sent all those back The fedora infrastructure now. I don't think it has a single power seven out of their own power right and um Again, one of the points are if you have something you want to run and you don't see it on power, you know IBM is is motivated to see it run on power. You know contact us. Let us know. We'll get you access somehow So the fedora infrastructure also in the fedora public cloud instance now has two power eights That run have the ability to run both big endian and low endian vms And is it a request for resources? Have you get access to that just go through and pretend and ask for access Yeah, so so there's actual vms running You know fedora 24 presumably 23 as well if necessary um That is running publicly accessible in the fedora infrastructure as well So that's where the copper stuff will move to And then at osu. There's three instances two fedora one opens So if somebody just has some short term they want to run or something like that They can get a hold of us and we just give them a login or one of those right We make sure we got the right release and whatever tools And we'll get stuff running there as well. So there's a number of ways we we do this and We we're mostly concerned with the le versions of stuff So typically you'll see the machines headed that way and configured that way etc and also The fedora irc channel so pound fedora python ppc And the ppc fedora mailing list as well if you've got any queries Or you're having problems with something Ask that Yeah, and the If it's not answered there there are ski boot head of boot Channels like that to that Are maintained by guys in Australia. So we might tell you how well you got to wait a bit right and find them But there are always channels will point you at those are mail lists And they're real good about responding about it and um Like I said, they're they're um Very active about having this all open source and out there people can see it and contribute to it and such So any other questions? I think I got you through everything again. You can contact me. I can get you more information We are trying to be very active on social media There's person from the LTC that's um blogging on twitter so you can follow updates that way Pardon, what is LTC? LTC it's from IBM that loves acronyms So the LTC is the linux technology center Which i'm a part of um a couple of my um key mates are here.  Okay. Will there be a machine which I can make power a desktop? There was a plan From the yeah Right right now If you look at the press releases, you'll see that IBM is partnering with nvidia on gpu's Okay, for the moment the gpu's are being used as As just a graphical processing unit just to do vector computations the CUDA stack nvidia and Things like abm I think data center and there and nvidia goes just puts cpu's gpu's without nl so wait There's a Bit of a split I'm seeing and I got to go back and look at this more when I'm seeing boxes actually produced by IBM They're staying with the fsp. There is no graphics anything like that. So you go through the harder steps um the open power stuff they're they're using the bmc And some of them do have graphics in them because the instructions will have them for setting that IP address initially as we'll tell you to go get a usb keyboard mouse hook a A monitor up to it and then boot it up and get into them So if you're looking for workstation kind of capabilities I would look at the open power boxes and then who is it thallos Is starting to come up with something They started but Yeah, I don't know if they've been producing But if you're wondering about an official fedora workstation Fully tested everything like that right now IBM has not been pushing for that from our In the secondary teams. We've been interested in the cloud. We've been interested in in dock on the server But um, I think you can get them running because I've got the old yellow dog system yet and every now and then you I mean all the packages is built They say you would have to either take the everything network install or the server network install and install the workstation components Because we don't ship either a live image or a workstation install But there's no reason why If you like why you couldn't have a Like power I come out of the With that graphics card and a desktop machine Yeah, because I know in the past we had the matrix card We had drivers for that and you could load those in boxes and then hook up monitors and that but it's never been a focus so Yeah, I think they're still low for the open power At first yeah I keep bugging people because I want the laptop. I don't want just a workstation. I want the actual laptop man That was is not dead yet. Hopefully it will stay quiet at least from what I know from their last channel They are planning to Continue to grab any additional demand in the server will be even produce a power recording. They are still Hoping to get the whole nine version when it comes out But Who's going to do the power nine the palace? Yes, they are planning to do two potential updates to the power four power nine line Two or more three are you But the interesting thing all the palace families the day I don't think it was possible to imagine that a couple years ago that You would choose IBM platform or power platform for private and secure I'd like to see it get there I think some people could be really happy with it because like I say I work with The fedora secondary team and I'm aware of what opensus is doing And and their build infrastructures are are really nice on power that the speed they get From that and stuff and I think that people could be happy with that I mean, I think what I quite like about it is everything from the right utilities Like pretty much anything you need to configure anything on the system is all completely open source And shipped out of the box in fedora Which means we're not screwing around with Terribly updated the plot for you bond or we want things to configure right controls Yep Yeah, I'll have to try another computer Yep, well, thank you for your effort you can tell how much I give presentations Why do this one I'll have to get a different laptop and learn to run it Maybe I'll give your mic It's all over. They don't need to see the slides. They weren't pretty anyways I'll work on that next time Yeah, they just got all blue penguins all over the place Yeah, sorry about the lack of slides and such. I hope you did get something out of this And like I said it for anybody within a server meeting one of the big things I want to get running on power right now is open qa or fedora I think that additional testing would be awesome It should work Well, yeah, just yes, they claim no they do I I know for a fact that they run it on On power because I work with denar, but adam was telling me something about the scheduler and engine and my comment was basically yours Um, it runs on open so so what's the problem here? So I think the main problem is we don't have hardware tied up to it in the way that it I mean it's triggered on composers primary and We would need to set up something to trigger in our secondary composers, but Well, that would be the insurmountable problems to do well, I mean that problem will go away and In some city case with probably fedora 27 Why fedora 27? because Where I put in a proposal Which will be going up to the main newsletter all today Of redefining the secondary architectures Where basically all the different side of things will be merged into a single instance of coding At which point basically the night they compose will run for all the architectures and we put out The primary deliverables into one directory and the secondary ones for the different architectures Into another set of directories at which point The definition of secondary arch will be where the where we deliver and ship that are rather than You know where we build it Effectively at the moment as 686 of secondary arch Except we can't keep it out because we still want it from all of you Well, I'm still needed for multi-lib for certain cases and then um like There's It then frees up like the whole concept of encode your shadow and that right sort of stuff goes away which means The vast amounts of time that people like down and myself and various others spend on that can then be put into dealing with architecture great pictures Feature enhancements Yeah, I was just wondering if it was something like that or if it was that you're going to need more hardware to do it Or something else tying it to being a year old Patrick always needs more power Yeah, so I mean One of the interesting things with the way open qa works is that you basically need to have dedicated hardware currently for it to run on Yep, it would be nice if there was some enhancements to open qa that were done Where it could just run that say from open stack instance Because I mean it is just spinning up the m's and that way We could get away from having the dedicated sets of hardware just for open qa and move to It just consuming all the various different architectures, which we would then put into the fedora overall stack instance like the power boxes that we have there And it could do just use the open stack api to spin up deploy Tests and tear down But yeah, open susa has a dedicated machine for theirs. So I'm not surprised Yeah, so I at the moment it doesn't support that but I think that would be a for open qa Enhanced And then you're selling the copper. So put the word out for that stuff, you know, and if you know people that are interested in power and looking forward Um, you know, let me know so we can find a way whether it's copper whether it's a university system Whatever we we can get them on it I'll turn off the recording and thank you all


Okay. So let's start. Good evening, all of you. Myself, Dharmankuswa and we are here for Tacker Project Update session. So first thing is, what is Tacker? Tacker is an OpenStack service for the orchestration with general VNF manager and for deploy and operate virtual network functions and network services. It is based on ETSI Mano architecture framework and as in ETSI Mano architecture, you can see that this red area is under the scope of Tacker Project. So we are as a VNF orchestrator and VNF manager. So this is the Rocky contribution from Tacker team. We ranked 37 in the review as per Stakeltics and ranked 53 in the commits and there are around more than 75 field bugs and we resolved around 52 among all of them and we did so many other contributions and the main contributions for the key contribution of this Rocky cycle is these are like VNFFZ support in NST for in-to-in network service deployment, symmetrical as a property of forwarding path, shared beam for Tacker conductor and placement policy support. So we will go for one by one. So first is VNFFZ support in NST for in-to-in network service deployment. To instantiate a network service from NST, NBEO plugin will extract VNFFZ data and it will generate Mr. workflow and execute them. So with the VNF forwarding graph that is created with network service, they can be shown in the list command like VNFZ listing that is OpenStake VNF graph list and we can update the VNFZ created via NST using NSUpdate command that is OpenStake NSUpdate. We can give you a NST template and then we can update that. The next one is placement policy support. This feature added placement policy support in Tacker operator can specify these placement policies in addition to affinity to videos like affinity, anti-affinity, soft affinity and soft anti-affinity. In this template, we can mention the policy like affinity and the type like it's strict as true or false to set its soft and strict affinity or anti-affinity policy. Through this feature, we can control the placement of video stance on node. The next one is symmetrical as a property of forwarding graph, forwarding path. A network service can have multiple VNF forwarding graph and each forwarding graph can have more than one, each forwarding graph can have different symmetrical values. So a user can set symmetrical value to true or false to change the symmetrical value of forward chain in networking SFC. If property is not set symmetrical, then it can be specified as a hyphen hyphen symmetrical in the CLI and to create VNFZ through command line. If it is not provided, here we can see that we mentioned it symmetrical as a true, but if it is not provided in template and not in the CLI, then the default value will be false. The next is shared VIM for Tacker conductor. Like some VNF LCM operation or not go through Tacker API such as policy execution or if you are executing through a Mistal workflow internally, then it will not go through the API. In that case, we don't have the keystone token to access the public and secret. In that case, we provide this feature as a shared VIM for Tacker conductor because internally sometimes we need to access the VIM, which are not created tenant. So in that case, we added this feature as a shared VIM feature because we have some ongoing activities which needs shared VIM operations. So we added this support. These are the ongoing activities in a stain cycle like Mistal workflow for VNF monitoring. In this feature, we are refactoring the current existing monitoring framework and we are introducing Mistal workflow to monitor VNF and another one is enabling video auto healing. So in the current scenario, when a VNF have more than one instance, so if any failure occurred in a single video, then we need to re-instantiate or take action on the whole VNF. So in that case, with this feature, we can execute action on a single video so that we can avoid the auto healing of the whole VNF. So it will help to provide high availability on VNFs. The next is force delete resources. Sometimes we need to clean the resources which are stuck in some abnormal state. So with this feature, we can delete them forcefully. We are also working on the CSR package support and some other like REST API for VNF based on ETSI and as well as specification and latest TOSCA profile support. These features are under discussion and these are started, but yes, we are looking for more contributors to help to implement on that. And some others are like code stability to maximize code coverage. We are adding for that. We are adding the more test cases and we are introducing some other additional test cases and refactoring the existing one. Another one is resource reservation for VNF resources. In this, we are integrating Bellegger with Tacker project. So these are the ongoing activities in Stein cycle. Beyond Stein, we are working, we have planned to introduce like more towards ETSI, MANO framework and micro service architecture. We have to more focus on the stability of the Tacker project, focus on the user scenario and support different VNFs. We need some help from other users who can help on identifying the scenarios where we can implement those cases and those VNF supported and support in Tacker project. Cross project work, we are working with OPNB, Doctor project also. For this, we already provided support of Tacker driver in the Congress because in the OPNB framework, we have some POCs and in that, we did, in our POCs, we used Congress as a inspector and Monaska as a monitor driver and Tacker as a VNF manager. So we already helped on the other projects to aid support for like in the Congress, the Tacker driver is already supported. I think it was under ongoing activity and I hope it is already supported now. So you can give feedback on, for feedback, you can join IRC channel, Tacker project IRC channel and we can also join the weekly meetings and the meeting times timing is Tuesday at UTC time. So you can contribute at the same, you can help on the other, so many areas in the Tacker and the contribution process is same like other OPNB projects and if you are interested to work and contribute more, so you can contribute in the terms of code review, in terms of bug traces, in terms of filing more bugs and testing the current Tacker codes and you can also give your ideas and inputs on Launchpad. So that's all. Thank you.


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