Hello everyone, welcome to yet another week of our NPTEL on non-linear and adaptive control. I am Srikanth Sukumar from Systems and Control IIT Bombay. So we are just entering our fifth week of this course and just to commemorate the finishing of four weeks or one third of what this course is supposed to be. I have changed our background to a very nice SpaceX satellite which is orbiting the earth. Until now we had this nice background of a rover on Mars and we said that you know you use these autonomous algorithms to you know determine where the rover is at its position and where it's supposed to go and and there are algorithms that drive the rover in a particular path all right because it cannot necessarily be remote controlled in real time from the earth. Similar situation is that for spacecraft also yeah a lot of what we do in adaptive control has to some extent been implemented in by the spacecraft community by the satellite community and so in order to maintain both the position of the spacecraft in orbit and also its orientation in orbit right which may be rather mission critical component we at several occasions required the use of adaptive control because it's not very easy to figure out several space parameters like the inertia mass etc of the spacecraft which are also of course losing fuel at a pretty good rate as they are flying yeah so anyway so this is another motivating application for us in fact a lot of my own work in my PhD in aerospace engineering was in fact using adaptive and non-linear control to spacecraft problems all right so anyway so hopefully again we will continue to see this background for a while and hopefully we can motivate ourselves to you know design develop algorithms that can drive systems such as this spacecraft all right excellent so what are we doing until now so we were actually somewhere here right we had not finished the lecture not from previous week in fact yeah and this is why I had mentioned that we should not worry too much if we are sort of moving ahead in the lecture notes because I knew that as we move forward the material will get more involved and we will start to get a little bit slower okay right right so but by now I think most of you understand what is the notion what are the notions of stability you know what is the pitfalls and analysis uh you know how to sort of we had a grip of how to use the bubble that's lemma we also saw are now looking at the Lyapunov stability theorems all right so we've already looked at the stability theorems until global uniform asymptotic stability so now we are left with only the exponential stability theorems so as you all might recall exponential stability essentially is a more advanced version of asymptotic stability I would say and why is it more advanced it is so because it actually gives you a particular rate of convergence to the equilibrium which is assumed to be the origin in almost all our problems okay so that's the idea of exponential stability so the question is what do we require yeah what do we require for exponential stability so we already have a usual assumptions right that we need to have a candidate Lyapunov function which means that it is a c1 function which is positive definite okay so this is the least that we do require all right beyond that we require v to be decrescent right because these are the properties that you already have already started to see appearing so we require v to be decrescent because exponential stability is by definition also uniform right so v is required to be decrescent further we require three class k functions all of the same order of magnitude we will talk about what this means soon enough same order of magnitude right we will talk about this soon enough let's not worry too much about what this means but we require three class k functions such that v is bounded on both ends in this way in fact although I have mentioned v is decrescent but if you look at this particular if you look at in fact let me be careful here this is not really required there is no time argument here okay there's no time argument here the third one is fine but here there is no time argument okay all right so so what we if we look at this left hand side this what does this mean this means that v is positive definite this is requiring v is to be positive definite if you look at the right side inequality this requires this implies that v is decrescent yeah so this is not actually required so if I if I I can sort of say this this is implied yeah and this guy this implies in fact I should be careful I should say it's a one way string of what this implies that this is positive definite and further the third requirement is something like this that v dot is less than equal to some negative of class k function right now this again okay so here also of course we don't need this time argument right let's be careful time argument is not needed v dot is what we have defined already yeah it is the lead derivative or the directional derivative of v right and this particular piece yeah this means what this already means implies not means but this implies negative definite plus of v of v of v dot sorry yeah so if you look at it it it seems like everything that we require here is already been mentioned here well I'm sorry everything that's required here we can look at the local version is already been mentioned here that v being positive definite is part of the candidate Lyapunov function definition right v being decrescent is mentioned here and v dot being negative definite is mentioned here so it looks like the conditions are exactly the same all right but there's a very you know nice and subtle little difference here and that is these words same order of magnitude okay this is the different same order of magnitude so here we did require class k functions to claim all of these but we didn't say anything about them being the same order but for local exponential stability we do require them to be of the same order of magnitude all right so this is important let's try to remember this okay now the global version of course you know of course if it moves from v being positive definite to v being readily unbounded and of course you will also require that v be valid over the entire domain aren't yeah unlike what's specified up top right so we require this also and we require this also that v be valid or v be defined in the entire domain and of course we need now class k r functions three class k r functions all of the same order of magnitude such that you have the same type of inequality yeah I mean I will again remove these when you're doing this comparison there is no time yeah because we are not when we do these comparisons we are not looking at x as a solution of a dynamical system but x is just a variable all right so it's not appropriate to put a time argument okay and so if this happens so if you have radial unboundedness for v yeah and you have three class k r functions then you of course you get something like global exponential stability all right okay so this is the notions of local and global exponential stability all right so let's sort of try to see what means for functions to be same order of magnitude okay so we say that two functions in reals so here we are talking about f y and g y mapping to the real numbers they're said to be the same order of magnitude if they are comparable using scalar quantities that is if there exist some scalars gamma one gamma two positive such that g is bounded on both sides by f scaled by these gamma ones and gamma two and vice versa okay and vice versa okay because if you see if this happens then the flipped version can also right because from here I can also say that so this this also implies if you notice that I can write f y bounded on both sides one over gamma one g y and something like one over gamma two g y okay so this is equivalent right these are equivalent okay so if basically one function can be bounded on both sides by the other function then the converse is also true all right should make sense yeah so two functions are said to be of the same order of magnitude if they can be compared with each other by just scalar quantities scalar constants yeah scalar constants yeah not functions of state not functions of time okay scalar constants okay so for all the above theorems so this is what it means for the same order of magnitude so for all the above theorems we say that if we satisfy any of these theorems it is said to be a Lyapunov function then that particular v is said to be a Lyapunov function if it satisfies any one of these yeah so any of one of these bullet points many bullet points then it is said to be a Lyapunov function not a candidate Lyapunov function like here but a Lyapunov function so although we don't talk about it but they do exist converse Lyapunov functions yeah and the statements always go something like this if x equal to 0 is stable for some system star then there exists v tx positive definite such that yeah positive definite and c1 such that something happens okay so this will this is what the converse statements look like yeah the converse statement essentially say that if your system is stable or asymptotically stable or exponentially stable then you're guaranteed to have v with these kind of properties with the you know with the properties that we are talking about yeah that it is it satisfies one of these bullet points okay so they do exist converse theorem yeah they do exist converse theorem but of course it's not uh it is not a constructive evidence right so uh just the existence of a converse theorem does not mean you can find a Lyapunov function yeah it's not always easy to find such a Lyapunov function and just using the fact that there exists a converse theorem yeah so this is the unfortunate truth so that's why we don't we're not really stressing too much on it or actually stating these theorems okay so there's an example that we want to do now but before we move on to the example I want us to look back at the previous examples and see if there was any system which was already exponentially stable okay so we did a few examples right if you look at uh let's see did we do a right so here no this was a harmonic oscillator which was just stable then we did okay I mean we could not talk about stability it was in fact unstable then we found a you non-uniform stable example but then we did this example right this is the this is the damped harmonic oscillator here this is a damped harmonic oscillator all right and what did we actually do we we took a Lyapunov function which is something like this right which is k x1 plus x2 squared by 2 and x1 squared by 2 alpha and we could show that v dot is also the same in some sense okay v dot also has k x1 plus x2 squared and x1 squared okay it has the same terms as this k k x1 plus x2 squared and x1 squared all right and from here we claimed global uniform asymptotic stability but the fact is that this is this also globally exponentially stable yeah why why so the first thing is that v is positive definite it satisfies all the properties right so in fact v is radially unbounded not positive definite v is radially unbounded okay and and so v is lower bounded by a class k r function similarly v dot is also radially unbounded right because it has the same terms as this if this is radially unbounded v is radially unbounded and v dot is also radially unbounded right therefore v dot also is upper bounded by a class k function right because it is a negative sign right so the upper bounded by a class k function and of course decrescence is free because there is no time argument right so therefore it is also upper bound v is also upper bounded by a class k function so v is both upper and lower bounded by a class k r function and v dot is upper bounded by the negative of a class k r function okay so this is one of the things the next thing is same order of magnitude of these functions right same order of magnitude so what are these class k r functions in fact right so if I look at what these class k r functions will be in fact I will take exactly this function itself as my class k r function okay so if you notice I had this phi 1, phi 2, phi 3 in class k r so here I will take my if I may let me make it bigger I will take my let me write in some other color actually I will take my phi 1 as half k x1 plus x2 square plus 1 over 2 alpha x2 square right which is exactly v okay sorry this is x1 so this is also the same as phi 2 and this is the same as v because I can use the same on both sides and phi 3 I will use as this k minus 1 minus k k x1 plus x2 whole square no no minus actually not in the class k function plus k over alpha x1 square okay this is what I take as my phi 3 and if you look at phi 1, phi 2, phi 3 first of all these are radially unbounded functions right this is not difficult to verify they're positive definite right how are they positive definite we've already verified this is positive definite earlier so I don't really need to do anything right because this was already done I don't want to repeat it and you can see from here now radial unboundedness is obvious because if x1, x2 go to infinity in any direction okay the only problematic direction would have been just a second only problematic direction would have been when k x1 plus x2 is zero but in that case also x1 is going to infinity still because you know x1 and x2 both have to go to infinity in some direction right so the only problematic direction would have been where this is zero but then x1 is still going to infinity so this whole thing is going to infinity so these are in fact class k r functions no questions asked all right now the fact that they're same order of magnitude is also very straightforward to verify you can see that there is related by some constants just different constants these constants are the only things that are different okay so it's very easy for me to relate phi 1, phi 2 and phi 3 by some in fact phi 1 is equal to phi 2 so the constants are one for to relate phi 1, phi 2 and phi 3 I just need to find another constant right which is very easy because they're just multiplied by some constants here okay so that's it so this is in fact turns out to be globally exponentially stable by this argument okay so we've already seen an example of global exponential stability now if you look at this guy on the other hand right this pendulum or a variation of the pendulum example in fact right if you look at this example it is uniform asymptotically so but it is not even globally uniformly asymptotically stable because this is not a radially unbounded v okay so so the question is is it locally exponentially stable at least is it at least locally exponentially stable would be the question right this is not very easy to verify this is not very easy to verify because what we have to do is now compare this guy and this guy compare this and this yeah now comparing this and this is not easy because if you look at actually we are going to compare the particular class k or k functions that bound these but even if I try to compare these two quantities see x2 is the same right it's the same function just with different gains so this is not a problem but this one okay could be a problem this one could be a problem because at x1 equal to I mean right so say at x1 equal to pi what happens let's see what happened at x1 equal to pi what happens actually we are not including pi so we might still have some chance yeah but this is not very obvious a case of same order class k functions yeah in fact there is a trigonometric formula for 1 minus cos x1 which is I think sine square x1 by 2 I believe yeah I think it's sine square x1 by 2 I will have to verify this though but but I believe it is sine square x1 by 2 but here I have sine squared x1 yeah so we still have to see if these two actually have some kind of an exponential connection with each other so I have a same order or a scalar connection with each other okay and this is not super easy to verify I can tell you that okay so it's not very clear if this is in fact locally exponentially stable or not all right for almost certainly it is not yeah all right but I will leave all of you to think about this and argue this okay it's a very interesting question is this so the the question we are asking is is this locally exponentially stable all right great now that we have seen this we want to look at this you know very nice tiny little example right so this is the system which is you know highly nonlinear right it is it actually looks like an oscillator harmonic oscillator until here but then you have some nonlinear terms multiplied by a constant c yeah some constants yeah now we take a very very simple candidate Lyapunov functions x1 squared plus x2 squared obviously this is positive definite radially unbounded and all the good things yeah and then we take the derivative as always okay we are trying to do a stability analysis so we'll take the derivative okay what happens x1 x1 dot I get I get you know x1 x1 dot and x2 x2 dot and then I simply plug in from here okay it's pretty straightforward this this basically it's a harmonic oscillator so these two terms obviously cancel out they do in all of our examples if you notice and then these two start to look the same cx1 square x1 square plus x2 square cx2 square x1 square plus x2 square so actually if you combine them you get something like this c times x1 squared plus x2 squared whole square now if you want to conclude negative definiteness of v it is the minimum thing we would want to do we want to conclude negative definiteness of v yeah first of all then we well okay let me continue then we would require c to be negative at least if c is positive then there's no scope of v dot being negative definite it should be obvious to right because this quantity is positive in like this quantity is also radially unbounded okay this quantity is also radially unbounded how you can simply see this by looking at this it's greater than equal to c x1 4 plus x2 4 but it's actually equal to this plus 2 x1 square x2 square but this is already greater than equal to 0 so I can say this is greater than equal to c x1 4 plus x2 4 which is of course radially unbounded like or the negative of it is radially unbounded right so depending on the sign of c right if c is positive well wait a second I think yeah if c is negative in fact this is not correct they should be c is negative if c is negative then v dot is actually negative definite in fact radially unbounded negative definite and therefore the equilibrium point that is the origin is globally uniformly asymptotically stable okay but if c is positive then zero is unstable we will need something called Lyapunov instability theorems okay we can actually show that the origin is unstable if c is positive yeah but we will need Lyapunov instability theorem which we did not state but that's part of your exercise okay that's part of your exercise you have to find the Lyapunov instability and instability theorem and use it to show that this system is in fact unstable at the origin if c is positive all right right now c is negative one might even ask why is it not exponentially stable if you look at this function here this is radially unbounded this is also radially unbounded if c is negative so in the negative direction so v dot minus v dot is radially unbounded right but if you look here which one what are the class kr functions so again phi 1 equal to phi 2 will still be half x1 squared plus x2 squared since there's no function of time I can directly use this this is a class kr function right and phi 3 will unfortunately be something like minus modulus of c because c is negative x14 plus x2 to the power 4 now notice that this are different powers they're similar looking polynomial terms but they have different powers so you can never compare them by a constant right because what will happen as x1 becomes larger and x2 becomes larger this will become significantly larger than these terms yeah and you cannot compare them by the same constant anymore notice I only get to choose a single constant to compare these class kr functions with yeah that is I can only oh I'm sorry I think it's right here right I only get to choose this gamma 1 and gamma 2 for all one gamma 1 and gamma 2 for all y it is not a function of y yeah but I cannot do that in this case yeah because x14 will start to dominate x1 square significantly and similarly x24 right and therefore there is no way that they are uh so they are not they are not same order yeah therefore there is no way I can get exponential stability all right but I do like global uniform asymptotic stability all right great so what have we looked at today we sort of wanted to complete our discussion on Lyapunov stability and we have done that so we were left with exponential stability theorems so we looked at local exponential stability and global exponential stability both of which augment asymptotic stability in the sense that they give you a rate of convergence and this requires us to know about similar same magnitude class k and class k are functions so we did define that yeah we also looked back at our examples to see which ones of these which ones of the examples we had already seen where in fact exponentially stable and we found that the dam harmonic oscillator was in fact exponentially stable and we also looked at a new example and you have an exercise of course and we saw that this new example of course is not exponentially stable but can be globally uniformly asymptotically stable if you have an appropriate constancy all right excellent so we will continue we will look at a slightly more involved topic here on and it basically sort of you know takes the knowledge of persistence of excitation to talk about new exponential stability theorems for linear systems and that is something that's rather useful in adaptive control and parameter convergence analysis all right all right great that's all for today thank you


Hey everyone, Drew with GeoArm and I am back to talk to you about your codes section within the Geo Alarm Control Panel. It's actually called Users. We'll hit the hamburger icon up here to get into the menu, enter your master code, and then you want to hit the Users section. As you can see the master user already exists in there. You can edit the name if you don't want to call it master anymore and you want it to be a different name. You can do so. And then if you want to change the code you can do so here. I've already changed mine to 1, 2, 3, 4, but let's go ahead and change it to 4, 3, 2, 1 here. It'll have you re-enter that code and then it's locked in. I'm going to go ahead and change it back, alright, and that is how you change the master code or update the name or anything within that menu. You also have the hostage code that already exists in there and that is your duress code. That is if somebody were to follow you in and hold you hostage and tell you to disarm your system. You would enter this code. This code would send a silent panic alarm that would make it look like your alarm system is actually disarmed when in fact it's already transmitted a signal to the central station alerting them that something is wrong. If you do enter this code the police will show up. So without a call from the central station. They're never going to call on this so it's acting as a true silent panic. If you want to add additional users you just hit the plus sign here, okay, just name it user and then I'll give it a code here, okay, and then you can make them a member whether you want them to have scheduled access to the panel, you know, recurring access, and then you can do a temporary user that's completely up to you. I'll just do a member here so that it's a permanent fixture and gives unlimited access. So as you can see now user is added. Deleting user is pretty easy. You just go ahead and go in there and hit remove, okay. Hit the back arrow out of programming and that ladies and gentlemen is the user settings or codes menu within the Geoalarm control panel. If you have any questions or comments please leave them below. Take care. Have a great day. Please like and subscribe to our page for helpful programming and installation videos, product reviews, monitoring, products, and more. Visit www.geoarm.com or call<PHONE_NUMBER> that's www.geoarm.com or<PHONE_NUMBER> Geoarm, the worldwide leader in DIY security.


Hey everybody, welcome back to Magic Orthodoxy! My name is David and this is a Magic Review. Hey, today we're going to look at the Four King Miracle from Henri White and the World Magic Shop. Alright, so what is the Four King Miracle? The Four King Miracle is a packet trick, okay? It's a packet trick. The trick starts off as two jokers, okay? The spectators see two jokers front and back, and then magically, a king appears in between them. And then again, you do the same thing again. You have two cards, two jokers, and you make a king magically appear in between them. Now you have four cards, two kings, two jokers. And then one by one, you transform the jokers also into kings, and you end up with four kings. When you watch it, it's amazing looking. It looks exactly like a camera trick. Totally unexplainable. When I first saw it on video, I just was blown away. I thought, wow, Henri White has made an incredible miracle here. I've got to see how it's done. Alright, so a couple questions we always ask about all of our Magic Reviews, and the first of which is what's in the box? What's in the box? You're getting the gas cards, of course. You need the gas cards. They are gas, so that means they're not inspectable kids. Can't pass these out. And you're getting the download code to the video. The video is about 11 minutes long. Is it what I thought? No, it's not what I thought, but that's dumb because it's similar to other tricks I own. And so watching it though, Henri has done something that, I don't know, it's just a new presentation. It's just a new way of looking at this. It's similar to maybe NFW or similar to a poker test from Eric Casey, but it's not. And so because even though I own those tricks and should have thought, well, it's like that, it's not like that. And so he's kind of taken that idea and pushed it. So I was really pleasantly surprised. How are the angles on this? The angles on this are super duper clean. I can't even think of any angles on this. I would say this could easily be done in a street magic setting, fully surrounded. But like I said, can't be inspected, similar to NFW, similar to poker test. You can't hand these cards out. What's the overall quality and production value of the video? Like I said, it's 11 minutes, so it's kind of on the short end, okay? Short end. And there is loud background music throughout. I didn't need that. I don't need to be entertained while I learn magic, okay? So please, magic designers don't include background music. We don't need it. So that was a little annoying. But Henri does a really good job of teaching you the effect. Even as he was first starting in the first couple of minutes, it already clicked for me in my head. And because I had watched the trailer from then on, I was with him and I knew exactly how to do it. It's filmed against a black backdrop. There's a black table. You got good close-up shots. They film his hands, which is what you want. It's shot well, well-miked. All right, so what's taught? Like I said, it's only about 12 minutes, so you're not, it's not that long. So you're getting the initial presentation, which is most of it, okay? And then you're getting a little bonus idea, little bonus routine idea at the end. Is it well made? It comes to you ready to go. They're all done on bicycle cards and they should last you a while with a little bit of upkeep every now and then. How much setup and reset is there? You know, like I said earlier, it's a packet trick and it really only involves four cards.  Positives. All right, so what are the positives to Four King Miracle from Henri White? Four King Miracle is a packet trick to impress. This Royal Miracle looks great on camera and in real life. All right, so is it worth your money? Is it worth your hard-earned dollar? You know what? It's only 20 bucks. 20 dollars, you get four Gaff cards, 11 minutes of instruction. I think it's definitely worth their money. I think if you're already doing tricks like NFW or PokerTest, you're going to love this. You might even replace this for that. So yeah, this is perfect for walk around, perfect for street magic. I think fans of PokerTest and NFW are going to love this. So definitely check this out. All right, so that's my review of Four King Miracle from Henri White and World of Magic Shop. I want to thank Murphy's Magic Supplies for allowing me to have this so like I could do the review for you. And if you'd like to purchase it for yourself, you can find it wherever quality Murphy's Magic products are sold. Thanks, bye.


Hey, John, how are you? Well, my role is the greeter, the role of the greeter. And I really was just going to do exactly that to thank particularly those up here for their leadership. Liddy Dole, the responsibility for coordination with the White House, doing a superb job in keeping the focus of this massive complex here focused on the private sector, Bill Verity, whom I've known for a long time, and I know many of you have worked with him, respect his stick-to-it-ness and his creativity, is just doing a superb job in all of this. And John Filer came with John Gardner and others early on, urging into my office, and I know communicated with the president on this, early on urging the emphasis on this whole private sector.  We're in, there's some complicated economic times. There's some good things happening, inflation, particularly is responding. There's some other trends that are encouraging. There's some things that are rough, frankly, unemployment, these kinds of things.  Nobody is putting the emphasis on this. The president has felt strongly about the private sector and what it can do for a long, long time. And it was created in his mind, this whole concept of emphasis is totally compatible with his view as to how things should happen. And I believe in good economic times or bad, this is a good insensible approach. And I believe that when we have tough times, the success is essential. And I am just delighted to have had an early report from Liddy Doe as to how these initiatives are beginning. We clearly need the support of everybody in this room, not just your individual business organizations and community organizations, but need your advocacy in convincing skeptics where encountered that this is the best way to help each other. F. Scott Fitzgerald had a line in a novel talking about America is a willingness of the heart. And a lot of this whole concept has to do with that, a willingness of the heart. And de Tocqueville, of course, early on, as everyone here knows, took a look at this country and the thing that he noted along with many other observations, but one of the key ones was about the propensity of Americans to form into private associations and the propensity of one to help another. And somehow the president feels, and certainly I feel, that we've moved away from that concept. Not that we think government has no role in the alleviation of suffering or in helping from time to time in various areas. We know that, the general welfare clause. We're sensitive to that. But we also know that the best answer in terms of employment, in terms of dignity, is to see this private sector as vital. And it's also just a kind of a wonderful ethic to think that you're involved in something where one human being, one organization, helping people to have a better life. And so this is what drives it. And I just wanted to make the point that it wasn't driven out of the idea that you have to replace a categorical grant by a stimulation. It's too fundamental to the way that we look at these things. I sometimes address myself. I noticed the president did last night to the concept of compassion and concern and all of that. And we know that we have to always be out there projecting the concern that in this instance our president does feel about things. Because it's very easy to say, well, he doesn't care. And he does care. And the success of this, I think, will demonstrate that the whole country cares. The whole concept of neighborhood and helping each other is just fantastic. So I just wanted to wish you well and to encourage you to do everything Bill Verity tells you to do, regardless of how painful that may be, knowing him and respecting him and trying to stay out of his first strike zone as much as possible, lest I be pressed into further service. I would only say that you've got a great man helping and leading in this effort. It is acumenical in the sense that it transcends just business. It's got to include and will include and does include, thanks to him, a leadership in education and religion and so many other areas as well. So thank you very, very much what you're doing, not for any administration, but for what you're doing for your country. We're deeply, deeply appreciative. Thank you. Bill, thank you. Thank you very much, Mr. Vice President, for being here. Presser. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States. Thank you. Thanks very much. Thank you. Well, thank you all very much. Really, I should be applauding you. I think your presence here disproves an old army myth, never volunteer. Well, we're delighted you could all come and I won't use that cliche from so many mystery movies of, you won't know or wondering why I asked you here. You all know. I just hope that Bill Verity and John Filer are right that your being here means that you're ready to make a commitment to this project. It's not only close to my heart, it's important to the future of our country. We want to rebuild America, not from the government down, but from the people up. All of us together as partners, community by community. And I'm asking you today to help us make it work. Our system of economic freedom has provided more opportunity, more mobility, more abundance, and distributed it all more widely among our people than any time or anywhere else on earth. Personal initiative, ingenuity, industry, and reward help make America the envy of the world. I say help because always there was that extra dimension of faith, friendship, and brotherhood. That made us good neighbors, good people, made America a great country. What'd you say? The press conference is Monday. But recently, I must say we, I flew to flood stricken Fort Wayne, Indiana. When I said last night in New York, I discovered that we still have that spirit we've always had. I saw again how Americans can rally together in times of trouble. Certainly it was a terrible tragedy for many people, but at the same time you had to be inspired by what you saw. First, my first sight was walking up to a dike. The water was right at the level of the top of the dike and standing on that dike, hundreds of young people who had volunteered standing there in a line and passing those heavy sandbags to keep that dike line above the flood crest. One of them gave me his boots. And so I took my place in the line for a little while. The young lady told me she'd been there for three days. They were all volunteers, girls and boys from all backgrounds, all the mix that you would find anytime, any place in America of the kind of people that make up an American group. And looking at their happy and enthusiastic faces while they were doing this. And I heard they'd been there since early morning and it was coming on evening then. And there was no griping about what was going on. I just looked at them and I thought I was looking at the face of the future in America and I can tell you the future looked mighty good. We've always done well when we've had the courage to believe in ourselves and in our capacity to perform great deeds. We got in trouble when we started looking to government for too many answers. When we listened to those who insisted that making a government bigger would make America better. Well, forgive me, but I happen to believe that the best view of big government is in the rear view mirror as you're driving away from it. I know they were well intentioned with all the social experiments, but too often their cure only led to despair and dependency for the very people that needed genuine opportunity. The era of rising savings in technological supremacy that we once knew somehow seemed to slip further from our grasp. Did we forget that government is the people's business and every man, woman and child becomes a shareholder with the first penny of tax paid? Did we forget that government must not supersede the will of the people or the responsibilities of the people in their communities? Did we forget that the function of government is not to confer happiness on us, but just to get out of the way and give us the opportunity to work out happiness for ourselves? Now these are not Republican or Democratic principles, they're American principles. 30 years ago, John F. Kennedy said, only by doing the work ourselves can we hope in the long run to maintain the authority of the people over the state. Every time that we try to lift a problem from our own shoulders and shift that problem to the hands of government, we are sacrificing the liberties of the people. Well he was right, we must reaffirm our faith in the people and put America's future back in their hands. Now this doesn't mean, however, that we abandon our responsibilities to those in need. In 1983, or for 1983, we have proposed that 28% of all federal spending go to the elderly, an average of $7,850 per individual in payments and services, that the federal government subsidize approximately 95 million meals per day in percent. Sent that's 14% of all the meals that are served in the United States. Almost 7 million post-secondary awards or loans will be available to students or their parents through federal student assistance programs. Through increased funding for Medicaid and Medicare, the federal government will provide medical care for some 47 million aged, disabled and needy Americans. About 20% of our total population and 99% of those who are over 65. Approximately $2.8 billion will be spent on training and employment programs, providing skills for almost one million low-income, disadvantaged people. 90% of whom will be below the age of 25 or recipients of federal aid to families. Spending on essential services will not go down as some would have us believe, it'll go up. But you know, as leaders of your major national organizations, that too much taxing, spending and control from Washington leads to bigger and bigger problems. Only when the human spirit is allowed to invent and create, only when individuals are given a personal stake in deciding their destiny and benefiting from their own risks, only then can societies remain dynamic, prosperous, progressive and free. So we're restoring incentives for personal enterprise. We're encouraging self-reliance again. And as a complimentary action, we've launched a nationwide effort to encourage citizens to join with us, find where need exists and then to organize volunteer groups to meet those needs. Bill Verdi, Chairman of our Private Sector Initiative's Task Force, is spending about 23 hours every day. He's recently retired, so he's taking it easy. He's doing this, trying to build partnerships between the public and private sectors in every community of America. Already, 20 governors have expressed an interest in forming statewide task forces, and several have started putting in place their own statewide groups. 80 to 90 community partnerships are already in existence in one form or another. And now, many new groups are being formed thanks to the efforts of his Task Force. This is a good beginning, but today, with you, we want to kick off a much greater effort. What we need now are your organizations which do such a fine job representing individual groups at the grassroots to step in and help us. The corporations, unions, churches, family farms, and mom and pop stores all across the country look to you for leadership. We're not asking you to take over the social welfare system. What we're asking is that you give generously of your time, your know-how, and your imagination.  I hope that we can count on your making private sector initiatives a top priority for the balance of this administration. Some of you are already taking the initiative. Let me just cite a few examples of what's being done to point out the enormous potential for good nationwide. John Filer, the PSI Task Force lays on with national organizations, is chairman of the Board of the National Alliance of Business. NAB is coordinating a major campaign to find jobs for youth this summer, targeting 100 cities across the country. They'll be looking to you for support, and I should warn you this won't be the last time you hear from me about this project. Bill Verity has done some great things in his hometown, Middletown, Ohio. The community partnership they established took inventory of all federal funds coming into the city. The U.S. Chamber then shared this example with their members, and now 36 local chambers have formed their own partnerships. I'm also told 150 communities have been targeted by the U.S. Chamber for special attention to encourage them to establish public-private partnerships. Sandy Trowbridge, president of the NAM, has requested his members to offer special help to job training agencies, city halls, colleges, school systems, and neighborhood groups that provide worthy social services. Sandy has stressed that there's a clear-cut relationship between stable, productive communities and the ability of companies to attract and retain skilled employees, and he's even gone ahead and printed up this brochure, which is kind of a checklist to help firms assess their community's needs and then decide how to help. One of the greatest roadblocks to job training and personal advancement is inadequate education.  Led by Dr. Nathan Wright and Mrs. Leon Sullivan, black Americans are planning to mobilize over 60 major organizations and 500,000 black community volunteers to attack this problem at its root. The drive will be called the National Assault on Illiteracy program, and you can be sure that we'll be looking to help them any way we can. Americans are ready to act, and they'll respond when asked. Those youngsters I told you about in Fort Wayne, within 24 hours after they were up there on the dykes and doing that, the volunteers started and they ended up with 30,000 volunteers who laid a million sandbags, and even with the oncoming rain, additional rain, the dykes held, and Fort Wayne people are now going back to their own homes. The waters have gone down. I think it's significant that despite these difficult times, when you would expect the average charity drive to fall short of its goal, that the United Way set a new record in last year's campaign. The dollar value of total time volunteered by Americans is now estimated at $64.5 billion. One recent poll showed that 44% of adults who got involved in volunteer work in the last year did it because someone asked them. Isn't that really what it's all about? That each of us does have an obligation, a personal responsibility, to give something back to this country which has given us so much. We can't all be the best, but we can each give our best, and America deserves no less. Each of you here today is an acknowledged leader, a mover and shaker. Well, let us start asking ourselves in 1982, what did I do today that will help a fellow American in need? And if the answer is nothing, the next question should be, well, what am I going to do about that tomorrow? With your help, we have begun to make the changes in Washington that America's needs. And it's time to take this program and make it work at the grassroots. I think back to a statement Herb Brooks made that seems more and more meaningful every day. You know that name. He's coach of the New York Rangers. But as you probably remember, he coached those young Americans of our Olympic hockey team that made us so proud at Lake Placid when they defeated that great Russian team. Coach Brooks was in the locker room with his team before they took the ice. He wanted to fill his players with confidence to play the game of their lives. And he told them, you're born to be a player. You are meant to be here at this time. This is your moment. And as you know, when they left the ice, those kids were chanting USA, USA. Well, this is your moment, our moment, I should say. Yours and mine. Our chance to correct the mistakes of the past. Our chance to justify the belief or the brief time that we spent here. We're not asking you for a miracle. We're doing what needs to be done. So help us do what we know is right and help us to do what we know will work. Thank you for being here today for the cause that unites us. Maybe I've told somebody of this story or maybe someone else has told you. But I just have to tell you, I have a great admiration for people like you and what you are doing in this regard. People who can go out and solicit others, ask them for money. I've never been good at that. I've always get self-conscious. That's why I'm in government. Now, we don't ask for it, we just take it. No, no, no. But I have to tell you the little story about the gentleman who finally accepted the job of chairman of the charity committee in his hometown. And he looked at all the records and then he went to a gentleman, and this was some time ago and back when $90,000 a year was an awful lot of income, more than it is now. And he said, our records show that your income is above $90,000 a year, and yet you've never contributed to the local charity. And the old fellow said to your records, also show that my widowed children was left with four children in absolutely destitute. He said, did they show that my older brother was disabled in the war, has been totally disabled ever since? And kind of a bash, the chairman said, well, no, our records don't show that. And he said, well, I don't do anything for them. Why should I do something for you? Now, forgive me, but I'm already late for my next appointment, and Bill Verity and John Filer will have some important business with you. So I'll leave it to them. And again, God bless you and thank you very much for being here.


So I'm going to expect that you can evaluate the effects of visceral motor, innovation, sympathetic innovation or parasympathetic innovation on various characteristics. Let's look, let's speculate. How does the sympathetic response affect heart rate? You see a bear, dogs, your heart rate increases. Parasympathetic system affect heart rate. You see a teddy bear, dogs, and your heart rate decreases. How does it affect your breathing rate? Sympathetic, you see your grizzly bear, and your breathing rate increases. Why? Because you see your bear and you are anticipating, I'm probably going to have to run away from the grizzly bear, and so you're going to need more energy to do this, and so you breathe faster because you can get more oxygen in, so you can get more energy. When you see your teddy bear, you feel happy and cuddly, and your breathing rate slows down because you're just going to cuddle with your bear. You love your bear, your teddy bear, that is. When you see the grizzly bear, what happens to your pupil size? Your pupil size increases.  Let in more light. Let in more light so you can see more so that if that grizzly bear has its ears forward, you're going to know what to do because if its ears are back, it has to do something different.  I actually don't know why that would be beneficial to have tiny pupils. Maybe it just means that you're more relaxed. You're not going to be quite as alert as the light around you. If you see a grizzly bear, are you going to be like, oh, this is a great time to digest the turkey dinner that I just put in there? No. You're going to be like, let's save that turkey dinner for later and run away from the bear first.  And so you're going to be using lots of energy and your body is going to say, hey, we're using energy, so let's send our blood to the skeletal muscles instead of to the stomach to digest stuff and you're going to get a tummy ache because now you've got all this food sitting in your stomach without digesting it, which is a little uncomfortable.  But the parasympathetic nervous system says, let's digest that turkey dinner. Tryptophan makes you tired. Go take a nap while you're at it. Now, interestingly, the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems play different roles in reproductive action. Arousal is initiated and maintained by the parasympathetic nervous system. So the parasympathetic, whatever that was, sends all the messages that life is good, let's make some babies, this will be really fun and you get ready and get all fired up. The sympathetic nervous system comes into play with climax. So during orgasm, it's the sympathetic nervous system that creates all the physiological things that happen at that point in the game. How cool is that? So you actually need both. This comes into play when you're talking about erectile dysfunction because you can have arousal if your parasympathetic nervous system is fine and no climax, or you could potentially be able to climax, or not be able to get aroused, depending on who's got issues. Just get a penile implant. All right. It's been lovely. I will see you later.


Thank you very much Jonathan. Good morning everybody. Good morning committee. Welcome to the next grants advisory committee 31st of July 2020. Again virtual meeting. We are being streamed so everyone can hear what we're saying. Thank you very much. So we're going to move on now. By the way, if there's any technical issues, I will suspend the meeting while the officers sort that out and then we'll come back again after. Thank you very much. Okay. Agenda item number one, apologies for absence. Aaron? I haven't received any apologies for absence for this meeting. Thank you very much. Officers, could the officers just cut in and tell everybody who's present please? My name is John London. I am the North Stoke Community Development Officer and I have been liaising with the applicants on this on this matter. Thank you very much. Claire? Hello, I'm Claire Gibbons. I'm North Stoke Community. I'm from Leeds and I'm substituting for J-Class on this occasion. Chair, I can barely hear Claire. She's very, very... She was, thank you. Okay. And Aaron? Good morning, Chair. My name is Aaron. I'm a Democratic Services Officer, clocking the meeting today. Thank you very much indeed. Okie dokie. And we've got another gentleman, Jonathan, who's controlling the meeting. We probably won't hear him. So it's okay. Thank you. Agenda item number three, I'd say two, sorry. Decorations of interest for members? None. None. Thank you very much. Item number three minutes of the previous meeting. So if we could just go through that members as we do normally and I'll just go through Bob Page and you just sing out if you have any alterations please. So that's page one and page two and I think that's it. Everything okay with everybody? May I sign those off as a correct record? Yeah. Thank you very much. Okay. Moving on into the main events so to speak. Item number four, community test funding applications. Jon, if you'll be kind enough to lead us through this, I'd be very grateful. Thank you very much. Thank you very much, Chair. So the first applications that we have are the deferrals from previous committee meetings and the first one is from Oversports Football Club for verty draining of the pitch. The club has been going for over 100 years, has over 30 members and they basically need to get the pitch drained with a process that alleviates waterlogging. When this came to the council, sorry to the to the committee last time, the questions were over who owns the land and if the parish council owns the land, why are they not paying for this process? We've done a bit of digging and it turns out that that is a simplified picture of the relationship. The land is owned by the parish council, however it's on a long term lease to a charity called the Over Community Centre Association which is a charity and the Over Community Centre Association would be a suitable body to apply for this funding. However they also work with the with the local sports club for the pitches so they decided in concert that the sports club should apply for things for the sports pitches. Oversports Club note that it's only because of local people making donations that the club is able to keep going and that they have repeatedly asked the parish council for funding and that those requests have not been successful. I took the liberty of just checking with NULC and I can confirm that there's no issues here. Parish councils have discretionary power to provide and contribute a wide range of recreational facilities in and outside of the council's area and the fact that it's owned by the council would not preclude them from granting, for example, section 137 funding. Thank you John. Members, shall I go around my screen? Shall I do ladies first? Which one is you ladies? Well I'm very sympathetic to this actually and it's been to us before. I can't understand where the parish council is coming from but I'm very sympathetic to an amateurs club which has been going for a long time which wants to drain the pitch. It's not a large sum of money but I don't know where we stand with the fact that the land is owned by the parish council. So you have to unmute soon. No, you're still muted soon. That's better. Surely if it would appear that although the land is owned by the parish council that this sports community charity has all the dealings with this piece of land and therefore the parish council do not feel in a way that it's their land and I believe they only charge a real peppercorn rent if anything and £300 for this sort of drainage is very very cheap compared to what we've done here in Twadesie I know and I would think that we should go along with it and agree this sum. Claire? I agree I have the same kind of reservations but equally is a small sum of money. It feels a little frustrating in some ways but it's obviously a good facility and a good club to have in the village that's used and has had long standing there so I've got mixed feelings but generally I feel because of this sort of slightly different relationship with the long term lease I'm slightly more positive but with some reservations. Peter? Yes Chow, I don't really have an issue, yes strictly speaking as with the parish council ownership it should fall to them but it seems to be a local community initiative with the football club so I don't have an issue. Well I think I'm probably in the same same thought process as the rest of the committee. It's irritating to be perfectly brought up and we do have a policy we're going to have to strengthen that policy because it is generally speaking that it would be the parish would fork out half of this or we expect them to fork out half which in this case would have been 150 quid so I am irritated by this but I absolutely concur with the rest of the committee. So shall we say with reluctance without the input of the parish council that we will grant the £300 on this occasion? Yes. I don't know about you guys but I quite like that mentioned actually we do have a set of rules over has money it's not a tiny tiny parish and for 150 quid it could fork out and support its community as we are doing for the whole of Southamn. Right I'll leave you to reword that John thanks. Thank you. Moving on then to the next one which is the global learning ideas exchange this also came up at the last meeting and they are asking for £637.68 for hook cards and accompanying design time educational resource. At the last meeting the committee expressed some probably well found confusion as to exactly what it is that the global learning exchange global learning ideas exchange is and what it hopes to do. I have asked them for a brief pre-see of what they are and how they aim to organise. I will be paraphrasing what they have given me as we do not have time to go through it but they are striving to play its part to make the world a more equitable sustainable and cohesive and to foster critical thinkers. There are several more points under that which I can go into if you would like me to. They have several goals the global goals are 17 goals under which around 170 global targets have been set by the UN in order to make the world a more sustainable and fair. Around 200 nations including the United Kingdom and leaders have signed up to meet these targets by 2030. I have a list of these goals if you would like me to go through them. Who are the GLIE? It is set up by the applicant and Tony I'm sorry I do not have his surname. He is a teacher and a school leader of 15 years and he has assembled a not yet made official committee. They are made up of a land owner and sustainability champion named Edward Darling a sustainable fashion designer and expert Natalia Pipska three local headteachers who are unnamed and and himself. The reason why they have decided to start with hook cards is that learners need to establish connections between their experiences and global issues in order to engage and develop their sense of a global outlook and the easiest and most effective way to facilitate the sharing and appreciation of opinions is to consulate conversation and debate which these cards will spark again. I have very heavily paraphrased so if you would like to go into further detail on any of those matters please ask so crack on. Why should South Cams be funding something that is global and what how do we under our guidance really determine that these hook cards are for South Cams people and where where is our ownership of this particular enterprise. I'm not really feeling that it could have come to this committee. I agree with Sue it's not clear from certainly the information that's been shared it doesn't mean it's not somewhere within and it sounds like they've provided a lot of information. We certainly haven't heard how how it relates to South Cams residents and young people and also actually how the hook cards will be used. I'm still not clear on what the how they're delivering them. If you see what I mean I haven't just haven't got enough of feel for it in a moment to feel that I could support it based on what we know. Thank you. Claire? Yeah I just feel sort of slightly uneasy about this. I have a question an information question for John. When were they established as a charity and do we have their charity status number? They have not established as a charity. They were established at the beginning of this year. They have I have been informed that they have recently received a bank account. So I must assume that they are a constituted group however that has not been made clear. Thanks Chair. I think it's just a question of a little bit of clarification. I think Councillor Ellington's questions are good questions and perhaps if John doesn't mind going back and just clarify a couple of those things and perhaps we can sign it off after that. But yeah I don't think we quite have enough information at the moment. Chair sorry it's just just to ensure I'm asking exactly the right questions. Would Councillor Ellington like to just repeat specifically the questions please? She'll try. What evidence do we have that this is a South Cams related project that it will affect South Cams residents and that it is based in South Cams? In other words why would South Cams support it really? Thank you very much Councillor. I have a couple John.  So that would be a point of discussion. There are constituted groups apparently but we have had if I really write no confirmation of that no minutes no names of officers etc etc and with a charity you would need officers to be in sets and pieces. What were head of members feel? Do we want to defer this for this information or? I certainly would because you know just looking at our guidance it's very clear that if they don't have a written constitution then that wouldn't be something we should consider and I just I just it may be that it comes back with more information next time and we're all perfectly happy with it but at the moment I wouldn't be happy with it. I'm in agreement with that too. Claire, Sue, Peter are you at the same? Yes that's fine. OK John can we defer this then please? Thank you very much, we'll do so. Thank you very much indeed. Next up is a Bottisham swimming club and hold on I just need to take back to my notes. Bottisham swimming club is leading this grant proposal for some swimming lane ropes at Imbington Village College and Bottisham Village College. Effectively the Bottisham swimming club, the Cambridge Triathlon Club and the Imbington Masters are three organisations involved in swimming both inside and outside of Southcams district area. They are jointly working to replace their ropes and Bottisham swimming club is leading on the proposal for Imbington Village College and Bottisham Village College. The schools have not been approached for funding of the ropes which was a question from the council last time. The current arrangement is that the schools store the lane ropes at no cost to the club whilst the club look after the ropes themselves including repairs and replacement. The ropes at Imbington Village College are currently owned by Cambridge Triathlon Club and used by all three clubs. The current Bottisham Village College Lane ropes are owned by Bottisham swimming club and used by Bottisham swimming club and the Cambridge Triathlon Club and as a note I have that the Imbington Masters don't swim at Bottisham. They're basically trying to raise funds to replace all of the ropes across these areas that need replacing all at once and whilst they are aware that some of these swimming areas are outside of Southcams they are happy to ring fence funds such that it would only go towards pools within the Southcams area however they do note that residents in Southcams swim across all of these sites. Oh sorry I apologize that was the the additional information. I forgot to give the specific information which is that the total project is £5,500 and they are requesting £1,000. The obvious question then is have they got the rest of the four and a half grand they need? I have not, I will check within the more detailed notes that I have please give me a moment. Thanks. Members any other questions? I've taken that one from someone, apologies. Yes please. I think we had a specific question about whether the ropes are actually used by the school swimmers themselves as well I think that was our specific question from what John said it sounds like they're not because it says they're stored at their cost it should suggest that they are. Is that a correct understanding from from to others? Correct understanding. From the information given it sounds as if the school may use them but the school would be an occasional user they would not be a primary user of the ropes. So the three clubs that were mentioned were mentioned as primary users of the ropes and the school name was noticeable in absence in that list if that makes sense. Thank you. Can I just add in there that in terms of South Cums users of course this swimming pool is very local to the Wilbrahams so it's very local to my ward and I know that residents of South Cums do use that pool. Right then are we, I'll tell you what there is some really strange things happening with this video feed you're all going around in circles and on near the moment there's I'm not on I've been blocked completely right and Claire was just a small picture just now now you're a bit now they're all bigger everyone's taking a turn at the big picture that's it so right I suspect this this may end in tears if it's the way it's going at the moment so um what do we feel about the bottle should one gang do we think that's okay I don't have any problems with it myself. No I mean I think that the fact chair that they've we assume they'll raise you know the four thousand five hundred and that being about that being the case and with the health and well-being and for children it sounds worthwhile. Yeah thank you. I can see lots of nodding okay should we take that as a affirmative then John please. I'm very sorry you cut out there chair could we just take that as an affirmative approval please. So noted thank you and before you go to the next one John I'm just I'll do it I must apologise the first item on the new applications Melbourne Amateur Mathematics Society I missed that completely must have had me morning eyes on um I'm part of the crew for that so I must declare that um an interest. Would you like me to chair that item chair? If you wouldn't mind please Claire thank you Apologies for that. Sorry just sorry to clarify that no apologies uh you said you were a member of the crew did you? Yeah I'm I'm I'm a crew for it. Ah thank you. Stage hand um are we going to do the Willingham Bowls Club? Yes please. Yeah uh although the the point is Mute uh Mute I was asked what the other funding was and I can confirm there is a list with uh which I can go into if required with um things such as bags of help Tesco scheme and other places that they have received funding from. Lovely thank you. Thank you very much chair uh Willingham Bowls Club uh a a uh request for £1,000 towards £2,000 capital expense to purchase a used refurbished lawn mower um sorry sorry sorry chair. No just okay thank you um uh Willingham Bowls Club started in 1935 25 members adults pay a subscription villages that benefit are Willingham Over and Swavesy uh and the uh they are hoping uh that uh effectively they need they need the lawn mower to cut the ground and on that ground they have run multiple uh events in support of the local community such as events with the local primary school for children and Willingham surgery for um patients suffering from a range of medical issues. The question uh previously was is the land owned by the Parish Council uh from from the last meeting um and I uh when I contacted the contact for the Willingham Bowls Club I received the unfortunate news that he had just uh come out of a serious operation in hospital uh he was going to hopefully get information to me in time for this meeting unfortunately uh he has not been able to come back with an answer in that time. I took the liberty of checking on the Willingham Parish Council website and in the notes of my predecessor and I can confirm that the Parish Council website indicates the land is owned by the Parish Council uh and that uh Willingham Parish Council have given the Bowls Club the land for a Bowls Green free of charge since 1937. Unfortunately I have no further information on this matter. Thank you John. Members, who's there Claire? Yeah so um remind me um if I'm getting this wrong um wasn't the issue that we didn't want we wanted to um make sure that whatever lawnmower was acquired uh was energy efficient and fitted with our zero carbon targets so um we wondered why they wanted to purchase a used refurbished lawnmower whether it was diesel driven or oil driven or whatever um and I'm not sure whether those questions have been answered. I might be remembering correctly members of the um chair if I can comment Claire is right yes and no what we said was that we couldn't retrospectively introduce um those guidelines or rules um so for the next uh my understanding was the next funding round we would publish those guidelines okay and therefore this would qualify. Okay thank you thank you and I seem to remember that somebody was saying that it is extremely difficult to find a suitable lawnmower for cutting Bowls Greens that is energy efficient they they just don't make them um at the moment so we may have a problem if we do change the rules. I think um we we've agreed lawnmowers in the past for a number of other places and that we need to be consistent. I'm not against uh agreeing this I just wanted to be uh reminded of what we agreed last time so thank you to Peter um yeah I'm not against this at all. Okay uh Claire Delta you're on mute Claire sorry. Apologies if my memory serves me correctly and it may not um I thought our concerns with this were around the um who owned the land as John dug out that that's why we deferred it and it's confirmed that it is land owned by the parish council so I guess we just need to be consistent in the way that we deal with this compared with how we dealt with previous applications for lawnmowers for land owned by a parish council. Yeah but they've also said that they've given the land albeit not on the land registry as being given to the Bowls Club but they have given the land so they don't pay a lease so yeah I think that it's one after the other. I think the land if I understand it correctly the land has been gifted and therefore yeah it's how do we feel guys go for it that's a theory yes yeah Claire I mean they they are contributing chair a thousand um they're asking for half yeah I don't I don't really have a problem with it. I think if they were asking for the full amount I would be less comfortable. Okay I'll take that as affirmation then um John that's a go for that one please. Thank you very much chair uh we will now be moving on to the Melbourne Amateur Dramatic Society. I'll hand over to Claire on this one then if I may. And I'll hand back to John. Thank you very much chair so this is the Melbourne Amateur Dramatic Society and they are applying for funding for the MADS Spooky Spectacular. They have 28 members they started in 2012. This is a specific application to purchase additional lighting equipment for the annual Spooky Spectacular event which is held at Halloween. The improved lighting will enable them enable more vulnerable people in the community to join in the fun. They say and I quote sadly last year our friends from scope could not attend as a result of difficult conditions and poor lighting which made their wheelchair access too dangerous. Improved lighting will open up this event to all who wish to join in including the elderly and those with limited mobility. End quote. Approximately 150 people attend this event or or or have in pre-covid times from the villages around such as Melbourne, Meldrath, Sheproth, Falmyr, Thriplo. As as to to sort of head off at the past the the obvious question there is no reference made to COVID within the application. It is a capital purchase for four application for £400. The total project cost is £404 and 85 repents. Any questions from any of the councillors? I want to know where the where the £4.85 is coming from. I think possibly from the chairman's pocket. What is going to be the effect of COVID on this? Chair would you permit me to answer perhaps some of the questions? You can certainly contribute as a member of the public on this one. Thank you very much. As I understand it with the regulations as they are at the moment with COVID regulation the plans are that where is it used to go around in groups of six and they could be mixed obviously for whoever. This one will now be in family units. They'll be locked down essentially and the distances obviously will be way over two metres anyway. They would normally have a five to ten minute gap between each party. So as far as the code is regular there is nothing to touch. So to speak it is literally the living daylight's frightened out of you as you go through somewhere dark. So other than the graphs that you may fall over on. Can I just confirm that this is an outside event? Absolutely every piece of it is outside. Pete's got any questions? No, no I'm fine with it. I'm conscious that apparently tomorrow is the day for the pantomime season to be decided one way or the other but it's an outdoor event so I think it's fine. Yeah and in fact just to add on that it sounds like there are going to be so many things not happening that it would be nice to be able to support something that will be able to happen and that people will be able to enjoy even in COVID situation as a kind of community event. If procedures sound like they're being put in place for it it might be just a question please John. It says and I'm sure Jo's will know the answer to this. It says here land owner is parish council. Where does this actually take place? It takes place on the off the new wreck in the piece of land which is called Millennium Woods. It's about Yeah are we seeing where it is? Behind the pavilion. I'm sorry if I missed this earlier but how's the parish council contributed? Not to my knowledge. There is no reference to the parish council having contributed. Okay I think you know to be consistent with our previous previous views to the rest of the councillors agree that we should encourage the group to apply for half funding from the parish council. Yes. Yes that's fine. Yes. Is that okay John? Yes Chair. Is that a yes with an encouragement or is that a deferral with encouragement or a no with encouragement? I mean just to get the other people's views would we be comfortable with funding 200 pounds of this application for example? I would be happier to fund all 400 personally because I think it's probably not a it's it it may be the land that is owned by parish council but it's not if it's the village hall it is merely land that has been donated to the community for community orchard as far as I can understand. So it's it's general land and this this lighting is not going to be owned by the parish council or or attached to any parish council building or anything it is going to be part of the amateur dramatic societies resources for other events. Good point Sue. I'm not really worried about parish council I would go for the 400. Thank you. Just to clarify I mean I think it sounds correct that the equipment will be owned by the amateur dramatic society and I presume it could be used for future events and future things as well is that your understanding councillor? Indeed it is. Yeah okay thank you I think we're going much more comfortable on that basis and Peter and Sue all comfortable that we grant the full amount. Yes. Yeah thank you very much. Yes that's fine. Thank you very much chair over to you. Thank you very much cheers Claire okay then John. Okay next we have over and district branch Royal British Legion with a grant of a request of a thousand pounds towards a total project cost of 3.75k for three uh for three commemorative my pardons for three commemorative benches uh which will be installed in um sorry my my computer went a bit wonky there. Over Longstanton and Willingham. Thank you yes over Longstanton and Willingham um uh so uh the over and district uh branch of the Royal British Legion started in 1922 it has 65 members they've asked for the three um for the three Brent benches in anticipation of your questions and to try to avoid um for the deferrals we have asked for a list of locations or at least a a process by which these locations may be determined uh and whether or not the relevant parish councils have been approached for support uh and this information has not been forthcoming. Okay. Presumably chair they're still they're deciding on location I think by the way it's good that it is both v and vj for more of the benches so I think they're to be congratulated that they're doing this. The ones that um the grants committee helped fund in Swavesy um are absolutely beautiful and it has created a really nice memorial garden that is using lands which previously have been adept um uh as you know that sort of thing and I would support the idea of the money going to the benches but I do think some of the questions that have gone have raised in relation to position and so on we really ought to have some idea about those things. Yeah. Yeah. Um could I ask a question about the the amount the three thousand seven hundred and fifty um you mentioned under documentation no quote so where did that where did they get this figure from uh I have uh requested a a quote uh uh I have the information that each bench costs one thousand two hundred and fifty which includes delivery uh but we don't have a quote to back that figure up that's just uh in the form. Okay. Thank you. That that's what it cost in Swavesy. I'm fairly sure that was the bigger. Fine. Thanks. Um well we did say that we were going to support um celebrations of the E day and obviously we couldn't do that and then we said we'd support celebrations of the J day so um giving a grant for these benches I think fits with what we've already decided. I agree.  Yes that's fine. That's that's an affirmative across the board Dave John. Thank you very much chair. Uh next up we have uh revitalize respite holidays uh they are a charity set up in 1963 uh they are uh they refer to themselves as a users rather than a members organization uh they have three centers in southport southampton and chigwell they are registered with the care quality commission and their centers have specialized equipment including bed hoists et cetera for the use of people with additional needs. They are requesting part funding towards two essential respite breaks for disabled people and their carers those people uh from within south cambridge uh um the the the amount per each specific holiday that they are requesting is 382 pounds per holiday and the total amount or that they are requesting is uh 764 the total project cost is 3848 pounds. Thank you. I know that we've ever ever supported our holiday before we generally support um things uh hardware of one for another but we don't normally support holidays and that's what I understand this to be. Yeah I'm just looking at our um our guidance notes actually because obviously it sounds like a very worthy thing to support but I'm just not sure it fits within the guidance for the community. What's that what I was thinking about? Well why are you looking at that Claire? John it's got his startup cost so that that indicates it's in a different category. Uh that is uh uh the self-identified uh project type that they put in. I believe that um uh no wait I I should not I should not say that um that that is what they have self-identified this project as. Okay chair chair under startup costs um it and going back to uh councilor Ellington's point it it's startup cost mainly training of staff volunteers Hall higher another revenue costs um like councilor Ellington I'm not sure if we can support the holidays themselves but perhaps we can support uh money going towards those things training Hall higher or other initial revenue cost. Yeah could we um support equipment that they might need when they're on holiday? So they you know in order to take a holiday is it required does the organisation or the individuals have to purchase special equipment? I don't know it depends on the level of disability. Perhaps that's something that we could ask John to go back to the applicant and ask if there are any costs that we could potentially support. Just looking again at our guidance which is something we need to be careful of it it says what cannot be funded and items that would benefit individuals and not a group so even if it was equipment it would need to be equipment that would be usable by other people. Shall we shall we ask shall we ask John to go back to the applicant and say is there any equipment that would be uh able for us to fund for this process um rather than um people or persons or training or something. Also actually whether there are and I don't know the answer to this I don't know whether Peter does but whether there are any county council grants that are available for this type of thing I don't know but whether they've explored other other grant options. Yeah I mean yes yes I mean I feel that we should try and support them in some way I will check as a separate action and advise them or advise John on the county council provision. I'm not sure off the top of my head but I'll certainly check that. Thank you chair so just to confirm this specific grant application is a no however we are encouraging them to work with us to apply for something that we would be able to fund. Yes yes thank you. Stroke no stroke defer I think. Fantastic uh no stroke don't have a box for no stroke defer thank you very much chair. Um uh the next one up is the Fendland squash squash club which is applying for a thousand pounds out of a project cost of 4.8k for the works to replace the current ineffective court heating system uh at the uh at their their club. The club has been going since 1975 has approximately 40 full-time members and quite a few pay-as-you-go users. Um we uh in in anticipation of your questions we've clarified several points with the club. The building is owned by Swayze Village College as a landowner however it is then leased to the club on a peppercorn amount and the club has exclusive rights to use the building. The club has paid for the building and the extension and are responsible for the cost of operation upkeep refurbishment and enhancement. The school does occasionally use the facilities however when the school uses the facilities they pay full market rate as would any other third-party user of the facility. They are hoping that by replacing the ineffective old court heating system it will help with play in the winter months and also help the group to be more inclusive by allowing elderly and junior players to access the facilities. Thank you chair. Thank you. I'm I'm not a member or or have anything to do with Swayze Village College so I don't think I have any interest here but I would say that I did find out that one of the things about squash those of you who play squash know these things but I don't is if you don't get the ball warm you can't play with it so if they haven't got a heating system it does that work it does reduce the amount of play that they can do in the winter time. They did build the building it's the ground that the building sits on that belongs to the Village College and as you say they pay a popcorn rent and I think in the past we have once we have given them a grant towards setting up some training for people who are going to train younger people in squash to encourage the sustainability of the club as a whole.  Claire Delafield? Yes I mean it generally looks like a good application my question with kind of our zero carbon type view is is the building insulated because I would have some reservations about funding a new heating system without knowing that the property has reasonable insulation measures. I don't know how other people feel like that. Could I comment Chair? I mean I think Claire is right I suspect the answer would be a probably cost them a million pounds to re-insulate it which is better but yes I think there's nothing wrong with asking because of what we're trying to do on zero carbon. Look what kind of heating system are you putting in? In places other parishes or other communities have put energy efficient systems in so I think we should ask that question anyway. Yeah I agreed and I was also going to say you know this is sort of borderline in a way for us it could be zero carbon application and in fact actually on that they could possibly get some advice because part of the zero carbon grant is that they can get energy advice for buildings. Yeah I would want to make sure that if we agreed this that they were actually going to take advice on the most efficient energy efficient system and not just and they've given a figure here of 4812 so they've obviously done quite a lot of work on it but do we know what kind of heating they're putting in? So what are you guys saying are you suggesting that we approve it with those comments or would you like to defer it with those comments? I would suggest to approve it subject to them as Claire suggested taking advice on the zero and the energy efficiency. Yeah I would support that yeah. Councillor Delafield? Yeah okay. Okay we'll go with that one then John please. So that is a support with Councillor Daunton's comments in regards to taking advice from the zero carbon grants team on insulation and other kind of in code. Thank you very much chair. Next up we have an application from St John's Church in Little Wilbrahim to fund vital works on the southwest nave window in Little Wilbrahim Church. They are asking for the maximum 100 sorry a thousand pounds out of 126,420 pounds. This is due to water ingress damaging the stonework near the window. They note that the church is the only public building in the village and is open daily between nine and five and is used for parish council meetings, concerts, fates, coffee mornings as well as the local polling station for local and national elections. They have not received any help from the parish council with funding, however the parish council supports the application. They have are already secured over 87,000 pounds with the funding. They have 27 and a half thousand pounds with the funding and I have a list of where the funding that they have requested has come from if you require it. Thank you chair. Thank you. Chair could I speak first on this please? Yeah this is in my ward in my village. If I look out to the window here across the field I can actually see the church. I didn't know that they were bringing it to this they were making the application at the moment but I did know that they were going to make an application. I can confirm that it's the only public building in the village. It is used a lot for the community and I can confirm that the window is in need of repair and that they have worked hard to seek funding from elsewhere. Thank you Councillor Gorton. Other members? I mean it's it's clearly impressive the 126,000 and as I mean Claire has the local knowledge as long as it really is being used as a community building and space rather than per se for the church and then I think it meets the criteria but you know I'm happy to be advised otherwise. Claire Deltafield. Yeah I agree with all that Peter said it looks like it's and you know as it is the only community space in the village and is used by parish council and other groups. I'm comfortable with it. I would like to say that 126,000 pounds for a window. I look forward to seeing the window because that's quite some window. Yes I agree. Sorry if it can just come in there briefly. I don't know if they've sent you photographs John but it is very large and a medieval window which was repaired in the 19th century and the glass is 19th century and the glass has been damaged and the area the stonework around the frame of the window as well so it's a big very specialist job. It's got a lot of hysterical value as well then. Yeah okay so do you have anything to say Sue? I'm very happy with the whole idea I know how much these things cost having been a church warden and things like that. Okay thank you I'll take it from that then that everybody's in agreement believe we'll go with this yeah. Yeah thank you very much. Joes could I just ask another question of John if you could just tell us exactly Apologies. 1,000 pounds it sounded as if they were very close to their to their target is that correct I mean we are they are hold on I've just closed that page hold on so they are requesting a thousand pounds they have currently secured 87,070 pounds they are yet to secure 27,500 pounds. So that's the applications that are outstanding that they put in for? Yeah so they have already received 22 and a half thousand from Cambridge Historic Churches 43 and a half from Church Funds Charities Fundraising 21 and a bit thousand pounds from VAT relief they have also got open applications for 20,000 pounds with the National Churches Trust and seven and a half thousand pounds from the John Coates Charitable Trust. Okay good thank you. I thought English Heritage might have have an opportunity there it comes to the National Lottery. I think they've become very very specific on these kinds of applications now I think so they have had money in the past from English Heritage for repairs to the Masonry. So that is support Cher is that correct? Yes it is. Thank you Cher just in in relation to Council Doughton's comments with regards to images and our drive to improve the process are for projects such as this would you like us to ask for images would this be useful? I think it would be rather nice I mean they don't leave masses but it would be it would be nice. Sometimes an image or picture paints a thousand words they say so. Thank you very much Cher we will make that addition to the to the application form. Next up we have Falmere Recreation Ground and Village Hall and they are requesting a thousand pounds out of a little over four and a half thousand pounds for improvements to community buildings and spaces. It's for refurbishing the changing rooms I have an exceptionally detailed quote of the work that is to be done I've looked through it all I can go through it with you it all does seem it's a local companies quote for works for them. The premises are owned by the Falmere Parish Council and leased to Falmere Recreation Ground and Village Hall which is a charity and they have sent through a copy of the the deed lease agreement as well to to to to proof that. Thank you members. Comment if I'm it's not in it's in Councillor Robert's patch it's in my county patch I know this is the recreation ground and the facilities that they offer there they have spent a lot of time and time and money it seems it seems like a very worthwhile project and and very much community orientated there. Yeah I think we've had a few applications in the past from this particular gammon we did make comments about not putting it all in one application if I recall so they're doing what we ask so and I'm I'm quite happy with it I think really both Claire, Dawnson, Claire Dill, how about you two guys? Yeah could I make a comment please Chairman I think one thing that's really important in this is they mentioned making the facilities available available again after Covid. I think we might get more of these kinds of applications because I think we will need to be looking at making and changing facilities and toilet facilities making sure that they're really modern and hygienic and up-to-date as a result of Covid so I think that's another reason for supporting this now. Thank you Councillor Eddington. I'm very happy with it no problem in my view. Okay and I think that's a yes John from all of us. Can I just bring to the attention of the committee that there is actually a grant program open at the moment distributing government funds specifically targeted at community leisure providers. Yeah there are criteria around this but perhaps it ought to be born in mind that this applicant may well be eligible for that grant program but it's a window of opportunity is very very narrow I believe that applications for that need to be in by the 3rd of August so um criteria that is narrow. Thank you Claire. Claire, John could I ask you two guys to liaise and any of the applications we have this morning that may or may not qualify in your opinion that they should actually perhaps apply to this other fund as well but whatever would it be worth just when you send out the email to let them know. Is this the discretionary grant funding um the government's discretionary grant funding? No no I think what Claire is talking about Claire you can correct me Claire Gibbons is it's either Sport England or or another organisation is that right Claire? No in fact it's the grant fund that the district council itself is currently distributing. So that's under Peter's auspices Yes yes it's under your auspices Peter. We would need to work look out with the applicant to identify whether they were actually eligible under those criteria but we ought to alert them that this might be a possibility and look at that together with them. Okay um I mean generally generally the funds haven't gone towards um you know capital items but that's fine let's take that offline and see if they qualify and if so that money could come back into our pot. Thank you chair so uh is that is that a yes for this? It's a yes for this but I do strongly urge that that government grant is looked at selfish. I will I will liaise with Claire Gibbons later today and in the interests of our expediency we'll phone the applicant to talk to them about the the grant that that Claire Gibbons has raised as a possibility. Thank you very much indeed. John I'll just put in in the chat if I may the link um just so you can find it more easily. I don't yet see it in the chat. Just just one second there you go. Thank you very much I see that now uh last uh we have diamond hampers and uh sorry diamond hampers uh they started uh at the beginning of this year in the first first 2020 they have they they state that they have 500 members uh that they are not a registered charity but do have a bank account uh they are requesting 300 pounds to purchase more food for the food bank and 200 pounds to carry out essential training and check training and checks uh what I asked them what exactly this meant uh they've they've specified that its DBS checks are carried out via the direct gov website at the cost of 23 pounds each they have uh confirmed they've not approached parish councils and um uh when I when when asked which areas they will be supporting with uh food parcels uh they said all villages around Huntingtonshire and uh have not been able to uh specifically define the areas within Southcams that they will be operating in uh however they are registered on the on the on on the county website. Okay I have a question um I thought for volunteers DBS checks were free anyway um it's only if you're paid yeah they become so that would be perhaps something they need to really do check um and the other glaring problem is it just doesn't say Southcams it has verticals it says Huntingtonshire as much as this might break my heart because I know there is a need um and growing need um I do think perhaps they might like to look further uh close to home perhaps I don't know about you guys what what are your thoughts um I I think chair we might have to think about this for the autumn because unfortunately with the economic situation we may see more need for this so I think it's right to ask these questions and ask for something closer to home uh I suspect we will get others along this line. Yeah I agree um I I'm not sure um chairman whether we should be purchasing food um does that fit our criteria no because it's a revenue cost. So I mean the training um to provide further training I think we could support that but I think like Peter we we need to ask some more questions and also um I'd just like to know a little bit more about the group who are they and where are they based. If I'm if I'm reading this application right John I think that this this applicant is in need of a lot of help and and uh guidance I mean uh it says multiple parishes but I don't I don't see that the parishes have contributed either um from what I can gather um and chair the chair could I just comment as well that yeah as part as part of that I mean there are some very well established now community uh you know food bank uh food parcel support support uh networks so I think we just need to the question really should be where are you filling the gaps where do you believe gaps are yeah because many many villages are already covered um and and it may be that there are gaps uh I would also agree with councillor Daunton that it's not really for us to provide food um but training and support and and I don't know equipment where necessary see if they want a DBS that's going to be paid for they've got someone who's on the payroll as well they're they're getting money so uh councillors do you have any comments I support what Peter and Peter have been saying I I do feel that I need to know where they're based I need to know where they're providing the service I don't think we should be buying food and I'm not happy about it not being South Cams it's a no no from me yeah I think I think really councillor you agree as well do you sorry I think you're sorry I agree yeah right okay then in that case it's a no from us um but with the with the advice and the guidance perhaps John that you might and the team might better offer them and also answers for the questions and if they can answer those questions and be more specific about how it affects South Cams then they're more than welcome to come back and try again thank you very much chair uh that concludes all of the community chest applications right um I think I think as John has rightly said that's it uh members I think in that case we'll call it a day on that one and thank you very much indeed um do anyone have any a quick point they need to make before we go if it relevant to the commission no chair I would just say the next meeting is Friday 28th August yep thank you very much chair could I just say that I will be on holiday that week so I will seek a substitute in good time thank you very much indeed Councillor Dalton hope it's not Portugal otherwise I might see you again in the quarry chair I have a question if that is all right yeah go ahead John thanks we mentioned with regards to the bowl greens are new guidelines with regards to zero carbon grants and diesel versus electric lawnmowers as we are currently in the process of renovating the procedures it would be a good time to sort of get that get that baselined in and I was wondering how how you would like that to be to be acted would you like us to arrange a quick get together on teams just to have a quick discussion about it I'd be happy to be involved in that what I would suggest John and chair is also talk to the county because they've probably already looked at this I don't know for certain but I suspect they have because the ownership and schools obviously and they may be able to help you is that okay John I still there chair so I suppose what I'm asking is if we have would you would you consider these guidelines the publishing of these guidelines to be a delegated officer decision or is that something that you would like to vote on at the next meeting of the committee I think we'd like to see it first and then okay if that's okay thank you very much chair thank you think run us an email around John when you've got some ideas and thoughts and then we can come back and then arrange perhaps a quick affair here if you like if people got some time to pair thank you very much chair okay in that case then members and officers and obviously members of public and then millions but another thank you very much indeed we're never going to conclude this meeting and co-fancy on the 28th thank you very much thank you thank you thank you Aaron