Hi, welcome all of you to a session by Pritiksa Ravi. She's going to talk about building the brand Agileway today. Thanks a lot Pritiksa for joining us today. So without much further delay, what do you Pritiksa? Thank you so much. I'm going to start sharing my screen because that's where my script starts. Thank you Manjina for the lovely introduction.  So quickly introducing myself. Hello, like the slide says, I'm Pritiksa. I'm sharp. No, ever call Pritiksa. Only when I'm in trouble, I'm called Pritiksa by my mom. I'm going to share the context why I'm here. All right, so I'm here because I love to talk. Of course I do. I have two young kids who are bilingual, who can talk nonstop just because of me. Thanks to me. However, I'm not here to present that. Or I'm here because I love to give presentations. I used to hear confessions. What do you think? I love making presentations, talking through that and boring people. But that's again not the reason why I'm here for. I'm here to help people just talking about their personal brand. I'm really passionate about that. If you've earlier spoken to me, you would know that I will not stop talking about one's own personal brand and how that is important to oneself. However, I'm here truly because I just want to simply share my own story. So the whole building your personal brand is very close to me because I feel that has helped me sort of grow in my career. So now I've spoken enough about why I'm here. I think I should have started the other way around. I'm quickly going to introduce myself. As you can see on the slide, I'm Shukra Osha. Transformation and strategy lead for natural growth. I work in the retail banking technology team. So in other words, I work for the retail banking technology team to drive the shift the dial on the transformation agenda, the transformation to be anything from the way we have adopted the dial, how do we sort of teach it, develop the options, skills, transformation, what skills, what skills you need, cloud strategy, people side of transformation, how to make them engage, how do you create an engineering community sort of thing. I'm sort of a year and a half into this job and I'm really loving it. So while I move to the topic at hand, just quickly posting the question here. So how do I size in my job? How do I advance my career with one question that was matching me for a very long time? I'm sure in whichever stage you are in your career, you are also thinking about this a little or too much depending on how good or how bad your job is. Before I go on to talking more about that, I want to tell you a sponsor. So I used to live and work in London a few years ago and in London I worked for a startup and there everything was very competitive. I was a product owner there but I struggled to sort of find my place. I was given responsibility I was working on some stuff but I wanted to do bigger stuff and I felt people were reluctant in giving me more responsibilities, reluctant to bring me, pulling me into the leadership table and I found it really depressing because I thought hey come on I have all these skills you know what not you interviewed me but then why are you sort of hesitant to believe that I can do it. So I reached out to another friend in one of the coffee workshops and she mentioned something she mentioned that sort of stuck with me. So what she mentioned was very important to tell you a story why I think it's who are the ones who need to take that extra effort to be there. So she said and it's sort of stuck with me and I've been talking about it ever since and I've been telling that to myself ever since. So I was one of these people who knew about this whole concept of building personal brand exist but I don't need it is what I thought to myself but however this connotation with my friend really sort of turned the perspective for me and she sort of emphasized so much on building my own personal brand. So the first aspect there about your personal brand is you need to first find it you know you people are passionate about a lot of things it's important to land your brand so you understand what you want to be known for yeah let's find it build it when I say build it this wherever and what point of career you are or whatever how much ever experience you have now that has made you into a person all your life experiences all your professional experiences until now makes you what you are. So all that sort of reflects on your brand so look at it and see how you can use those experiences those lessons those projects that you've worked on to your favor to add that to your brand value and keep working on your brand so brand is not something okay I just covered my bad I'm going to be known as a product owner I want to be known to be an effective product more owner from today and then then you don't nothing about it so you need to keep working on it to tell say how do I effectively elevate the bitch myself how do I grab opportunities how do I ensure that people understand what I'm good at so you need to keep working on your brand also keep talking about it so I'm one person being bragging is one advice I give for a lot of people I mentor I think very important you talk about your decision who else will you know your resume you have achieved so you need to talk about this is important similarly you have to talk about your brand so that you can make a lasting impact so now that we've spoken about brand and re-established I know lots of you already know it just from my perspective I'm giving my story that personal band is important you've established that this is another bit to it so building a personal band is a project in itself and it's not like I do it on a weekend and then my brand is settled then I sort of that it's that out there for everyone see it's not like that it's a huge project you need to understand what's your strategy how you're going to talk about it what you want how do I what are the different nuances to it etc so it's a project in big initiative in itself and that's well uh two the topics I'm passionate about marry all right so we have first building a personal brand I love talk about it and agile leads to a western fashion so now we have topic in hand agile maries build your personal brand so that's what I'm going to talk about so um most importantly like I said it's a huge project so it's important that you are it's fair to say we'll start building your personal brand first of all I assume you have a big brand strategy for example you want to become this whole big speaker you want to talk to people about your experiences you want to establish yourself as a keynote speaker so uh that's your brand strategy so then you sort of derive that is a sprint how do I start where do I start so in a few months time that's where I want to get to or a year time that's what I want to get to you to suck that you will probably not understand how you're going to achieve go get to that goal it's important to sort of break it down into sprint if that will help you so that there's small chunks of work you can do every day or every week or however you think that you want to work on it so that you can achieve your brand growth that will help you do it number one I'm sort of person I love to see progress sometimes I write out to do list like I I sort of break things into minuscule do it then so that I'm able to take it off yeah just because I can pick up more items on the list I make a very extensive view list but you're like me if you you know divide it in the small chance of work you'll be able to see progress and you like it and also if there is um you'll be able to sort of uh be nimble and turn around if there's a problem uh for example it is you have to change your strategy or how to repurpose how it's working etc so dividing it in small chance for work the next bit is be value driven so like I said so you want to become this whole keynote speaker person so you if you want you've been applying for a lot of uh conferences to become one I like to take lots of time and energy because you record videos blah blah and whatnot so instead of that why don't you think about starting small so always start with the simplest of things so that yes it's the values are bigger sometimes sometimes when you do when you take a huge first step you feel see a amount of effort and the values yet are not what it's all about so start small so that you're able to focus your energy and you're able to see some value and also you're able to um see some progress which gives you a positive feel to be value driven can you can you work on your plan next let's be consistent just like exercise the main problem with me and exercise is I exercise like for five six days I think I'm very consistent on exercise zumba and whatnot and then I give up again I feel oh no I need a not fit at all and I after five months again I do exercise for four days I give up and it's not helping my cause similarly uh building your personal plan like I said it's it's a big project in itself it's important to be consistent it's not every day some people can at least look at what you can do about your brand once in why don't you have a quiet day on a weekend uh if you have if you want to or why don't I usually pick Wednesdays for all my important stuff because Monday Tuesdays are still like your you have the hangover from the weekend Thursdays and Fridays are your leading to the weekend so Wednesdays I usually do my big rock so that because I am also energized and I'm I'm not looking forward to the weekend so I'm so motivated to work so when I usually pick Wednesdays but if Saturdays work any other day work to go for it look at your brand and see where you are at what you want to be working on just do a small thing every week so that you keep you see progress and you don't forget about it it's very important to be consistent when you are building your brand or you want to talk about it because otherwise you'll give up otherwise you'll be like I just see one more thing I need to do maybe is not very important maybe I will do something else I will or I'll come back to it after three months I'm not gonna change but then it's very important to be consistent so that you can see the results you can work on it and you know you don't give up totally on working on your personal brand the next bit very important yes value-driven is important networking is a big part of your passion there so it's very important that you like it says in the slides we live in a world of co-creation none of this you're not alone you're always with these so all the brands and all the whatever efforts you put in are are shaped by conversation are shaped by network it's important to invite collaboration into your brand and network is also important to propagate your brand take it forward so it's so when you you know connect up with people and make sure you talk about yourself make sure you tell them what you're working on and ask for feedback ask them you know what are you doing how do you think this works sort of thing it's it's very important that we help each other and like you are building your brand that should be another person who you're talking to in the same boat and you can work together and share notes or something like that I think because we live in we live in a world of relationship it's very important to network well and network is golden I mean it's very important to have this network and also utilize it and like I said it's very important to get feedback so for example you work on a brand you have this whole nice elevator pitch you have sort of linked all your life happenings into how it makes up you and how it makes up your brand and everything and you type it out and save it in a drive somewhere or not to sit or not show it to anyone it's not going to work it's important to talk about your brand to people you go and ask for feedback a lot of people wait for feedback to come to them so it's important you go and ask for people please give what I think this is what my career journey looks like here's what I think I'm will be my next step or I want to get into what do you think what's your feedback on this etc so it's important you share your feedback as well when people do a similar exercise that's about feedback the last bit very important bit I think three years ago if you'd asked me what's the best tool brand I would have said I'm this awesome product manager who's very good with the adult concept who's very good in running road shows and you know managing the road maps and backwalks and stakeholders and what not now we are seeing a brand this I'm all about transformation and all about implementing stages I'm all about looking at how you how to deal with people when you're implementing these changes and what are these people transformation side of things this is this is my brand now and I changed my brand and I'm I'm happy about it so it's important that while people are passionate about a lot of things your brand will change depending on the market depending on the situation depending on the opportunity is important to look that look at it and change quickly yes it's important to be it's simple to read but also it's very important to grab the opportunity when you get it you always have to learn and change I'm strong I'm a strong believer so if I if you put it out there if you make it visible that say you are this people's transformation all your trusty and transformation person and just show you my guidance there when you make it a pattern opportunities and if someone wants something to be done some changes to be made they're just having a difficult situation with their team or something you will come to their mind but if they have to problem solve problem so it's very important that you put your brand out there and opportunity and people will come to you once they realize what you do that just to summarize what I'm not too sure how long they have taken to do this for them just to summarize so what we need to do while doing the brand relationship be creative and be present like I said start small embrace the power of social media I too I think I abuse links but then it's very important to use social media and links in profile and online community to your advantage and like I said networking is very important and use your network wisely it's there is no harm in asking for help or support so even if you're seeking a job teach out to your network and ask for one if you want support in figuring out where you want to go to your network you want to build a network it's important that you use them a lot of people have lots of friends and connects on links in for them using that is also equally important the next bit it's know the value delivered and showcases one story here you're often told even me to keep uh you know to keep your head down and work hard and let's work speak for itself I was like that so I I thought okay hard work and sort of work really hard and the world will talk about you but then making yourself visible goes the really long way just remember that for some people it's hard for some people some easy but then that's what here we are here for that's what you yourself it's important you make your yourself visible be brave talk about your achievement find the platform find the group of friends who you can share with and also appreciate them when they share their achievements it's important that we help each other and there is no harm in sharing your achievement or talking about the last bit is being adaptive so I want to quote something which was very helpful to me so I feel I used to volunteer a lot and not share more for them it helped me a lot because it helped me develop a lot of skills that I earlier didn't have for example I used to sit with the UK I was a semi-matheter I used to sit with school kids to give them sort of interview and feedback things so that's what I learned to give better feedback so volunteering sometimes it's not free it's women it's free it makes you feel good it's healthy other person or of the other entities where you're volunteering for also helps to develop something say on the other bit if you want to grow yourself technically there's no harm talk up to your employer or your manager and ask to be trained so if you think okay I'm here I want to get here in my brand this is the game these are the skills I want so when you realize what skills you want what training that's required just walk up to your manager and ask for it yeah just don't be shy as most of people it's a good business you can get with that finally spend time on reflection so take time for yourself look at your brand look at what you achieve look at what you want where you want to go and self-reflection is very very important thing in us self in your special brand yes networking is important bragging about is important talking about it is adapting training all that is important but only when you self-reflect you'll understand if that's what you want to be known for is just the correct brand for me do I am I shining in what I'm doing so all these are very important to to get your personal brand out there so finally I often end with a slice it's very important for you to understand no one is going to help you in your career no one is going to take it forward they are there to support but then you are the hero of your own life you're going to build it you're like your own personal brand you're going to build it you're going to keep working on it and you're going to keep talking about that thank you so much thank you all for listening to me if you want to keep talking these are the different handles but then I think I will be in the hangout area if anyone has a weaker can we leave that back for a minute yes yes sure yeah thanks thanks for the wonderful session very motivating words


This is Mike with the 21 report behind the scenes in Orlando, Florida for the 21 convention 10 year anniversary I'm sitting alongside Rolo Tomasi offer of the rational male series Rolo You just gave your first talk at the 21 convention first of all welcome. Thank you. Thank you for starting. Yeah It's good to have you here man So to get in some to some before we get into some questions I want to ask if you could give a brief overview of your first talk today And why you chose to talk about in this case hypergamy I chose this because it's probably the topic that I know the best As I was saying in the actual talk if you go and you Google search the search term hypergamy You'll find that my site is the second Listing right after the Wikipedia entry for the definition of it I Think that the reason for that is first of all I write about that probably more than anything else because I really think that hypergamy is the underpinning of Pretty much every intersexual dynamic that we as guys face today and I think that it really needs to be More understood Simply because it affects so much it affects our personal Our personal lives are you know our intersexual lives with with girlfriends and wives and women near to approaching but it also goes to Has extensions into society and into how we will Direct the legislation for our country for how the social discourse is going to go just things that are appropriate to talk about things that aren't appropriate to talk about and how how it influences really what I what I refer to as a Feminine primary social order So whether we're talking about abortion or we're talking about consent laws or talking about divorce laws Things like that a lot of guys don't really understand that hypergamy is the root cause of a lot of the things that That we think is so unfair. We think oh well as guys, you know, why is it that? Why is it that guys or men get the sharp end of the stick when it comes to divorce laws or it's child custody or Alimony and things like that. We're still basing our of those laws on old on an old social contract, you know contract and that old social contract is Primarily based on the foundations of hypergamy. So You know taking care of the woman making sure the child is provided for that's an aspect of that a lot of people Want to just define hypergamy as the the sociological definition and that is that you know Women tend to marry up socio economically they do and if you want to just leave it at that That's the polite thing to do, but they just really don't understand that when you look at When you look at topics like ovulatory shift and you look at how that affects women's behavior How it affects their sexual selection process how it? influences Just who they're going to breed with and who they're not going to breed with I mean really hypergamy is the deciding selective factor that Decides really the the future of the species almost It's it we have given women such a control just a unilateral control over hypergamy right now You know fundamentally from you know the social aspect of things even even in religion even in legislation for likes an abortion and birth control and things like that all of that comes back to Giving women a complete and just absolutely unilateral control over Hypergamy and ultimately the direction of The race to you know the human species of who are they going to who are they going to breed with and who are they not So what would your if someone wasn't aware all this stuff hypergamy the red pill What would your short roller-tomacid definition of hypergamy be? Not to put to find a point on it but it's alpha fucks and beta bucks and or you can say that the nice way and say alpha seed and beta need and It is the pluralistic or the dualistic if you will sexual strategy of women and It basically comes down to women looking for a guy who is the hot guy Who's the has the breeding potential and has the the guy that she really wants to have sex with in a short term? Sexual most you'd probably like to have it in a long term as well, but in a short term sexual Context and then there's the the beta bucks guy or the guy who's the provisioning guy or the guy who is a good parental investment proposition and Never do the two meet you know Especially not now because so many guys are where we're polarized right now We've got 80% of guys who are very much the beta provider type And then we've got maybe 20% of the guys who are you know Who can actually pull off the alpha male kind of thing where they're going to be the one that women are going to prefer on tinder? for instance So in a nutshell Hypergamy is really it has to do with ovulatory shift and the behaviors that go along with that but from a functional standpoint it's breeding with the best genetic specimen of men and Assuring securing long-term security and provisioning and preventable investment from That kind of man Yeah, so in your books you talk about Becoming or being the guy who just gets it. Mm-hmm is a simple understanding a basic understanding of hypergamy enough or is there more to it than that Hypergamy is definitely a vital Part of that because if you don't have that education if you don't have that that knowledge of How women's sexual strategy operates you set yourself up for a lot of different things both short-term and long-term If you're just getting into you know learning game and learning to be a pickup artist or something I that this is just one aspect of it it helps you to understand and to optimize your game a little bit more if you are a guy who Wants to get into a long-term relationship, and you want to build the family and everything it will also teach you how to maintain that and how to Sustain your relationship and understanding what it is that you're you're dealing with most guys just simply don't have the The understanding of the background to that when I say you're you have to be a guy who just gets it What I mean by that is it has to be some kind of innate knowledge inside of you You have to it has to become part of you are so and I make references to that as far as red pill and intersexual dynamics is concerned But that has to come from inside of you has to be who you are so your innate Reflexive responses are based on the things you already know and in about hypergamy or things that you know about game or the things that you know about you know red pill, you know intersexual dynamics and Your expression of that comes organically and naturally and it's not something it's not an act I mean so many guys think that oh well, you know, this this stuff is just you're just learning how to Speak scripts and and you're just learning, you know wrote memorization pretty much as what it is And that's what they think that it all boils down to but it's so much more than that And it has so many more applications to it. So when I say you got to be a guy that just gets it I say that because most women don't want to be told about the game. They want to play the game They don't want to say.    That's not the guy for her That's the guy that she's just like okay He doesn't get it and and either she puts up with it and deals with it and gets frustrated by it or The guy gets it and she's you know, she's good to go So towards the end of your talk roller you mentioned that there are some ways that you can make Hypergamy work for you as a man. Mm-hmm. Could you expand on that what you maybe some of the strategies or tactics guys can use? That's fine. I was just I'm just answering some questions after the after the talk about that with these guys Yeah, the the first thing to remember is you got to sort of split it up into two different Two different aspects the first is what's the what's the single guy going to do with this and what's the married guy going to do? So the guy in the you know long-term relationship a lot of people will say just simply don't get married or simply don't don't Don't entertain any long-term relationship Aspirations and while I understand the logic behind that it's not really practical not in the long term So you have to really look at at hypergamy from From two different standpoints one is well, I like said the the single guy and the married guy But also where is that woman in her stage of life and then in preventive medicine?  That is influencing them that is that Prioritized what is you know like like when women get to be 29 to 32 years old that's when we get these complaints about we're all the nice guys and I constantly read articles about Women saying you know I there used to be so many nice guys who were around for me and now I'm sexually invisible or Got or they then they'll complain and say guys are just these Adolescent kiddolds and they want to extend their adolescence and they they don't want to have anything serious And whereas before probably in their 20s you probably met plenty of beta guys who really wanted to be serious And they really wanted to get you know get together with them But now those guys are gone and she has passed her what we call the wall But she has passed her capacity to be sexually competitive now all of that that are just described Finds its roots in hypergamy.  It's her college.  They'll speak to you in different way. They're more flirtatious They have a lower what we call this husky or sexy voice and they don't really even actually realize that they're doing it And they will pre-plan in the back of their hind brains They will say well We're going to go have a girl's night out on such-and-such a night And I will guarantee you that almost every time that they plan that it will be for the majority of those girls in that group will be in their Their highest proliferative phase now then there's the the luteal phase of course, which is when women are looking more for the comfort in this and the the rapport and familiarity and All these really oxytocin based Feelings of trust and then that's when usually when they you know lean back on their beta orbiters and they say, you know, they're kind of shoulder and and And you end up becoming the phone friend or as we call the emotional tampon and so In that respect it's really important that you understand You know from a month-to-month basis and then a year-to-year basis and then a lifetime basis so Understanding the fundamentals of hypergamy and how that affects the short term and the long term I think there's so many different applications for that even I'm just even one that's completely unrelated to To dealing with a woman, you know that you're familiar with or that you're approaching whatever if you've got a female boss And you know what her her stage of you know, ovulation is or what where she is in her Recycle you can plan ahead for that. You know, she's gonna be really bitchy and one yeah one week And she's gonna be really you know hot to go on another and she's gonna be down and depressed on another and it's Is it always like that now can women control that? Yes, they can but we're in a situation We're in a society right now where we excuse women of that. We completely say don't worry your woman We you know, it's completely excusable We don't worry about that kind of stuff and and I think it was even socrates was saying You know, we we expect women to have some sort of logical rational Capacity for self-control and to understand themselves, but they don't they don't understand that they don't want to understand that and For me or you or anybody else to say, you know, you need to understand that goes right back to getting it If I have to if I have to tell you about it and I could to tell you here's what you're going through That's not being organic and that's not playing the game And so I think it's very important for guys to do is to keep this to themselves keep, you know, it's it's your secret weapon. It's your this is your toolbox and Understanding what the tools are in here and hypergamy is a very big part of that It's a foundational tool, but it's still just one more tool and how you go about applying that is really individual to each guy So like I don't know what your situation is. I don't know what anybody's situation is But it's not going to be what I'm going through. It's not what you're going through And so you can that's the beauty of the rational male I think is you can take this and you can apply it to your own Your own context and again what you do with it is really up to you So this was this has been your first ever time speaking at the 21 convention Really interested in your thoughts on the event. What's your experience been like so far? Oh so far It's been fantastic. I you know, I Think viewers are probably gonna see this or they're gonna see the two speeches that I do But they don't understand the the stuff that goes on behind the scenes here And there's so much more going on at this and I like so this is my first time here So I can't really speak to the old, you know older prior ones But there's so much else that's going on. We have meet and greets I I spent close to three hours in the the hotel bar here just answering questions and just talking to guys and just And just that interaction the network. I really I need that stuff I really do because it gives me material and it gives me like things to think about and like for instance everything that's in positive masculinity the very I say the first Quarter of the book to almost third of the book is all dedicated to red pill parenting and that came as a discussion that I had with guys completely off the scene when I was doing the man-of-demand conference and This they would say, you know when my kids or my boys get to be 14 or 15 I'm gonna give him this book and it's gonna change your life because I don't want them to have to go through the kind of shit that I had to go through And so meeting up with guys like that. That's a perfect example. It's like when I'm when I'm meeting people one-on-one it it Inspires me and it gives me ideas and I go, you know what just like what we're talking about You know, that's another application for it. That's another application for the red pill It's helping guys who are married helping guys who are Who are parents and they want to make sure that their son doesn't go through the horrible divorce and the horrible situation that they went through So behind the scenes is where all that came from and so there's all this stuff that's going on like I know Christian McQueen is taking some guys out to the some of the clubs here in Orlando and Goldman's here as well and he's gonna be giving his his talk I believe on Sunday and You know, everybody here has such a breadth of experience We've got you know Alan Roger Curry. We've got Richard Cooper. We've got Ivan Throne is here a lot of these guys who are you know Fixtures, I think anyways fixtures in the red pill community and it's not just about angry dudes You know spitting hate at each other spitting hate at women and stuff I think anybody who would come to this who watches these videos or comes to these things You would know that just how ridiculous that idea is that all it does is just about about angry guys because the guys I meet and I'm Again, we've got some other events that are going to be happening that are off the the scene is like so it's not just about talks I Think that that's where a lot of the value of this Particular conference is is is in I know that a lot of people came here to see me I mean there's people who flew in from from Great Britain to just just to see me And I'm I'm very flattered. It's very humbling to have people come and you know say hey, thank you You saved my life But I need that one-on-one and this this convention really Really provides an opportunity to you know, you can pick my brain. I can pick your brain and really that's what I think the red pill Is really all about it's always been about that for me It's not just for me You know typing away on my blog and writing a new book or something like that I come from a forum background I was a Moderator on the so swab forum for you know years from 2002 all the way up until really just recently I think 2015 I was a moderator for a long time and so I'm used to that interaction In fact, I resisted making a blog because I was so hooked on that interaction and the great part about this is I get that here Yeah, you know, I get the the one-on-one and you know people have thrown questions at me like I would I Would never would have thought of that if I hadn't been here Awesome, so Before we wrap this up Rollo if people want to learn more about you more about your work Where's the best place they can go? Well, of course my website, which is the rational mail.com You'll find me there. You can also follow me on Twitter. I can't guarantee you everything will be some profound you know aphorism of truthiness, but You can follow me and find out what's going on there. I keep up with a lot of people one-on-one Via Twitter, of course you can pick up my books on Amazon I have the base book the core book, which is the rational mail. This is the core Fundamentals though, I like to call it the rulebook of The red pills far as I'm you know from my perspective And then I have everything that that comes past that is really sort of supplemental So you don't have to read three or you don't have to go one two three You can read three as long as you read this first you doesn't matter which one in even if I have a fourth one later These are really the supplements and these are more specific to guys To guys needs like I said, this one is the timeline Well, we're just discussing it a minute ago and then positive masculinity is geared towards Sort of taking red pill knowledge and red pill awareness and putting it into different realms like rep the parenting Understanding how masculinity is is under deliberate assault Tomorrow's Talk will we'll get into that maybe we'll do do this again. I won't talk about that but tomorrow's talk is going to be about Defining masculinity for ourselves and not allowing You know the feminine imperative and not allowing the village as I like to call it Define what masculinity can be for us or allowing them to confuse men so much that they they just simply give up on it Or they they define it for themselves and have no idea what real conventional, you know, honest-to-goodness male-based masculinity really is So that's that's what I wrote this book for and so you can Pick these up on Amazon. I have them in In of course in printed form They're all available on Kindle the first one is available on audible and the second one And I wish I could have made this announcement now But the it will be on audible probably by the time anybody sees this video It's they it's still in the review stage right now But the second book will be on available on audible by the time you watch this awesome stuff mind well rollo Yeah, thanks again for being here. Thank you being great out of me And with that you can get first access to rollo's talk on 21 University.com all by clicking the link underneath this video This is Mike signing off for the 21 report with rollo Tomasi. Thank you


So, now we are going to get somewhere. So, we have derived this beautiful equation Jn is minus beta i SnCn by FnT. Now they are very interesting thing to look into that. Now if I have against n, I am using the corner because I need to talk of this equation quite a bit now. Now this is my free hand landscape and this is my critical thing. Now here at small n near n equal to 1 at the limit and in this scale when n is very large n could be of something like 200 or 300. Typically then in this region particles are trying to go and come back and there is enough of them. So, this is the region it is like equilibrium. So when I go to the limit n going to 0, I am entitled to going to 0 because I am made n to continue on actually it does not go below n equal to 1. But mathematically that does make a difference whether I 2 1 or 0 does make a difference as you will see. So n going to 0 or n equal to 1, i Fn becomes Sn. However when n goes to infinity that means n goes to infinity means here all the way there is nothing there. Before that I have the minimum maximum after maximum it just goes downhill. So n going to infinity this quantity of n t is 0. This is third is the most important thing. In a steady state when there is a flow of train that is what I do flow of train. I again appeal to you to remember that the train is going towards in front of you and one after another the compartments are coming one after another in regular interval. Train has a constant velocity speed or this has a constant speed. What does it mean? That means our case what is happening our compartmental n minus 1 the next compartment is n, the next compartment is n plus 1 there is steady state flow. What does it mean? That means j is independent of n. Now I have this wonderful expression now j is independent of n. So what do I do now and I know the limits. So I immediately now write down now I can do an integration because I know the limits. So I do the integration 0 to infinity. So I bring d here I bring d and here and then I do this integration 0 to infinity and infinity it is 0 and at n equal to 0 infinity f n t at that limit. So there is a d here so it just goes this become evaluated at n equal to 0 and n equal to infinity. Now n equal to infinity is 0 and n equal to 0 f n equal to c n. So I just and there is a minus in front that because it is lower limit I just get 1. So then I get the beautiful relation j equal to I am almost there now. So this is minus 1 in front bracket minus 1 so that means my beta i and beta i and s n because we are in denominator of denominator it comes out. So now I have the following expression so I have to evaluate this thing now. Now let us do little bit so we have done the main thing we have a little faster it I will go now. So this is the thing I said since equilibrium prevails for smallest clusters this f n by c n goes to 1 but when n goes to infinity this goes to 0 because of actual postcritical size is rare actually not rare it is not there then so now I have to calculate the rate. Now what do I do so this is my c n this is beta i s n now I need remember I need the at the critical cluster so s n become s n star or s n c and then I have to evaluate this integral now and so important thing to assume that this is minus note that this particular integral that I have to do this integral that I have to do this is 0 to infinity but I will come to minus into plus infinity then I write c n the minus 1 is there c n is c n equilibrium c then e to the power I say okay I want population here population here so because I have an integration to do I have an integration to do so I now say this I write c n but the because this is and this is a method called method of steepest descent or many other goes by Laplace's formula many methods so basic idea is that around here c n is very very small in this region in this region c n is very very small in this region if c n is very very small then that is the denominator so in the integral over d n these quantity here it dominates and so then I say okay c is I can now consider only a small region around here so the way I do that then I will say okay c n is the c n star c c n star and then I x this is a harmonic I assume it to be harmonic and I write the fluctuation here the n minus n star square and then I need to do the double derivative because this I expand the delta g here delta g n as delta g n star plus delta g's double derivative n n minus n star square by a factor of 2 okay so that is then by 2 and by k B T is here then it becomes these now this so let us explain this again the little tricky I have to do the integral so I have to do I have to do this integral this integral I am going to do and this integral I use the following property that the c n is very very small here and the c n is very small and this is the smallest c n in this landscape which is c n is e to the power minus beta delta g n by Boltzmann distribution and this is maximum the delta g n is maximum is delta g n is maximum means c n is minimum so in this integration c n is minimum here so 1 minus c n is maximum here okay this is I am saying this is used again and again so c n is very rare in a barrier top so 1 over c n it picks and so it is enough in this integration to take care of the region near the maximum that because of this advantage that we are taking that the advantage that c n is this quantity is minimum so 1 over c n is maximum we expand it in a harmonic thing and this is second derivative and then this Gaussian so I can now do this integration completely so everything before I have done that I have the beta is n so beta is n and 1 minus 1 of c n star that will come up so that is so this is beta is n my earlier thing c n star coming because I have making approximation c n is c n star then the Gaussian so that inverse inverse that comes on so this is fully documented by me I know Z is the leftover of the integration and that integration I can do because this Gaussian function now okay so minus infinity to plus infinity I can make it also 0 to infinity I do not care because there is a this integration is so sharply picked the function it is n star it is so sharply picked that I can always make it to minus infinity without any any loss minus infinity as it is given here then this integration is just 2 pi root over 2 pi by a and as a Gaussian integral and that gives now the delta g square 2 is there at the 2 pi KBT so I now get this beautiful expression the rate of nucleation so everything is determined I have now I have rate of nucleation is given by Zeldovich factor Z rate of impringement beta i that comes from kinetic theory surface area and the critical concentration that has to be there we know that and it is just reproduced beautifully and c n star is given by Boltzmann concentration of monomer because I start here and go there this is the monomer and this is the n star so that is given by n star my probability of being here is given by this expression and my impringement surface given that and these way Zeldovich factor is called the non-equilibrium effects that take into account of going the both ways this is exactly we do in chemical kinetics we sometimes call that Smokowski equation approach and they all these things happen very similar time and it is exactly what is Cramer's theory also of chemical kinetics very well known theory of chemical kinetics that we will do little bit hopefully someday so now what is Zeta what is Z Z is this beautiful expression let me write down that that delta g second derivative by 2 pi KBT and rate is Zeldovich factor impringement surface ratio C n star this is the rate of the rate of nucleation the reason I did it in detail in such great detail and more detail is given in the book and of course I think what I did here little bit more straightforward than what is given in the book big book is little bit I think some more detail steps and little bit more talking has been done which is not necessary so basically the summarize the whole thing is that we did a calculation of the rate of barrier crossing you know it is a very standard thing in chemical kinetics and many other thing but Zeldovich did it without knowing anything but around the same time Smokowski did this barrier less cohesion Lindemann did Michael S. Benton did all these things all in the same time the same thing and this very general approach the formula of these 2 pi KBT root over this thing is essentially goes as Laplace's formula and so it is a few more comments we have done so the this is what I was talking about the temperature dependence a very strongly temperature dependent phenomena the supersaturated this sometimes it is not just a temperature but pressure and super saturation that means you increase the pressure you see nucleation that is a way to see the nucleation in a cloud chamber and these are the different super saturation the super saturation S3 is more than S2 than S1 and then when the super saturation increases the size of the nucleus comes down size of the nucleus comes down and barrier comes down so activation free energy decreases the reason is that that if you transfer into free energy landscape then what is happening is that as you increase the super saturation then this Delta GV which is Delta GV this quantity is increasing as this quantity is increasing then r star r star is decreasing and Delta G star 16 pi by 3 gamma cube by Delta GV square this is also changing but this is changing much faster so as we increase super saturation or in lower temperature we will call it increase super cooling like when the water instead of 0 degree centigrade I am going to minus 10 degree minus 20 this you can say minus 5 minus 10 minus 20 below below the freezing and then the barrier comes down as I said and the size comes down then what is really interesting you find that nothing is doing nothing is doing nothing is doing you go on suddenly it comes explosive like it is shown here rate of nucleation suddenly increases because the barrier has to come down to a level where thermal fluctuations can access it and that exactly happens so this is the picture very important picture of the nucleation theory next is that as both free energy difference between bulk phase and surface known for several systems notably for water and many other systems a quantity of equation is possible and it is there are certain limitations they are very detailed things like the surface tension we are using is that for coexistence but we are using it in a out of equilibrium so there is certain limitation there then we assume it as a sphere that is a limitation there and many times they are little elliptical simulations have showed and then core of the nucleus is really liquid like but surface you know nucleation we are assuming this is sharp boundary and core is that of the new phase and this is the old phase that is not quite like that because this is some extent it is cold like but then there is a diffuse region and that is also an important thing that we have not discussed and that is done by theory called density functional theory of expression that we can do only when do the density functional theory which I will explain little bit density functional theory later when you do the density functional theory and there is this beautiful problem heterogeneous nucleation and that heterogeneous nucleation is described like that you are on a surface then the basic idea is that surface tension of the you reduce the exposure of the liquid to the old new phase to the old phase and the surface tension of these could be much less and as a result you get a free energy barrier that is the heterogeneous nucleus which is the barrier gets substantially reduced and the amount it gets is used is a quantity psi theta w which is that is given by this I will not going to derive it is another long derivation but theta w is determined by this theta w is determined the surface tension of these surface tension and these surface tension and that is the expression that is given so that this heterogeneous nucleation barrier comes down this is homogeneous nucleation but to describe heterogeneous nucleation you need homogeneous nucleation pure homogeneous nucleation and so that expression is not given here but it is kind of said that if the angle is 90 then barrier becomes half if it is 3 by 8 then barrier becomes much less 0.375 so this is a an important important thing and there are some many other things which we would be describing later. So we will start next little bit of Ostwald's step rule then we go over to some other aspects of statistical mechanics and that will be in the next class.


July 4th's coming up. I hope you have an incredible July 4th. I hope you spend a ton of time with family But are you going to allow a holiday to be an excuse for why you had a poor day? Why you did nothing? Why you made calls? Today's July 3rd You can still make calls. You can still set appointments for today You can still show up in doorknock people. You can still set appointments for Thursday Friday Saturday Don't let a lot of agents will use the holiday as an excuse for the whole week or multiple weeks They will put the plant stuff in their head like prospects. Don't want me to call them on the 3rd They're thinking about the 4th. No one's thinking about going to the lake or blowing up fireworks or something The 4th is awesome. I don't even spend the entire 4th celebrating the 4th. It's normally just like that night Same whatever you believe.  They don't make excuses They create solutions. They don't create problems. They decide. Okay, if I'm gonna talk to someone today If I've got an open work day today, then I'm gonna make the most of it If you write your goals and every morning like I do it makes you conscious of what's going on today What am I looking to accomplish today? What am I gonna do today? How am I gonna dominate today? How is today going to impact my legacy my mission? How is today going to get me closer to make it a hundred K whatever your goal is write it down Know it and don't let excuses and don't let holiday get in the way of furthering your mission


Here's the image. Take a look at the image. Okay, we're gonna read this. Okay, now let me read you what the description is. Having the intent or power to save or redeem. Having the intent or power to save or redeem. So, Hallus entheogens have the power to save and redeem humanity. That's the way we can take that sentence, right? Figure 3. The be-faced mushroom shaman of Tessilly and Adjir. Drawing by Cat. Harrison McKenna, that's Terrence McKenna's partner, from O.T. O.S. and O.N. Oreck. Silicite, the magic mushroom grower's guide. 1986, page 71 from the original in Jean Dominique. Loot, the rock painting of the Tessilly New York world publishing 1963, page 71. That's the description for this drawing. So it's a drawing that Terrence McKenna's partner made, which he referenced in a previous book, which is from an original drawing found in 19 or published in 1963, right? And it's called The Be-Faced Mushroom Shaman of Tessilly and Adjir.


I'm sorry I'm a little bit late, I was having trouble connecting, but there we go, alright, it's working now. My name is Catty Januzzi and I am a senior at the University of Vermont. I'm studying public communications and I'm working with CCTV right now in order to raise more awareness for CCTV and everything that it brings to the community. So right now I'm working with a few other students and it's for a senior capstone project. So I am joined today by Margo Higgins and I just saw that she logged on. I do want to wait just one minute. Okay, so I'm going to accept Margo now. We're not expecting too many people to join the live at the moment, but we are going to be saving this to a reel on the Instagram page for future views. So I've sent a request to Margo, I'm just going to wait. Hi! Hello! It's so nice to meet you. Yes, you as well. Thank you so much for being here with me today. Totally. And I know this is going to be great for the CCTV Instagram. Yeah, this is a super cool project. Yeah, no, it's really interesting. It's really cool and it's important too to just raise awareness amongst college students.  Are you a student at UVM? No, I graduated in 2019. Oh, okay. All right. I thought that might have been the case, but yeah, were you, so you can start off introducing yourself before we get into anything. Yeah, my name is Margo. I've lived in Burlington for six years now. I graduated from UVM with a studio art degree and an English minor. Cool. That's awesome. So are you from Vermont originally or? No, I'm from Massachusetts and I moved here for school and I pretty much knew when I moved here that I wanted to live here, so I have been here ever since. That's awesome. So I just want to kind of get into it a little bit. So when did you become politically active at, you know, in Burlington? Yeah, my first semester at school I got involved with UVM students for Bernie Sanders and it was 2015, so it was like the peak of Bernie's first presidential campaign and that really pushed me into that whole realm of, you know, student activism and organizing. So when you were, were you active throughout your whole college experience or? Yeah, so I started with UVM students for Bernie Sanders, which ended up being a lot of phone banking in town at the Bernie office and we went door knocking in New Hampshire. And then after that I was volunteering for a non-profit called Headcount, which registers voters at concerts. So I would be at higher ground, you know, with a clipboard registering people to vote. But throughout UVM there was so much student organizing and it was so easy to get involved that I was, you know, showing up for whatever the latest organizing was. And my junior year I volunteered for the Infinite for Mayor campaign. So that was like my first local Burlington, really like political involvement. How many local political movements have you been involved in? I mean, mostly it's been, the main two were Infinite for Mayor and then most recently the Max Tracy for Mayor campaign. And that was my first like hired position for a campaign. That's awesome. So what made you want to join? Were you politically active before you came to Vermont? Or what made you want to get involved in, especially local politics? Because everyone, you know, people are maybe more inclined to get involved in the, you know, higher up, more expansive kind of, so what made you want to start, you know, working locally? Right, that's a good question. I mean, I don't know that I was necessarily interested in politics, but there were so many issues I cared about and it, you know, became clear that politics was the avenue that you answer these questions in or that you, you know, push for rights or all these issues I cared about. So just by nature of that, like I found groups on campus and in town that were working on those issues and really spoke to me. So I sort of just ended up in these places because I, I cared about what was going on and I ended up really loving the Burlington community and, you know, those opportunities just turned up and it was just so obvious, you know, when they do, it's like, oh, yeah, of course I care about that. Like, what can I, can I do? And, you know, you end up being involved in it. Yeah, so what were some things that, you know, sparked your interest that you felt really passionate about that made you want to join, you know, some campaigning and made you care? Yeah, I mean, racial justice is an issue that I care deeply about. And that was, I think, one of the first ones that really pushed me to be involved on campus and in town, as well as housing security and food security. And I remember especially when the Incident for Mayor campaign happened, I had now been living in Burlington. It was my third year, so I was getting a better feel for, you know, what this community is like and what it's like to live here. And I remember when Infinite came, he came to speak to the UBM students on campus about why he was running. And he said, we become leaders out of love and that spoke to me. So much about, like, why you show up and do that kind of work. And it's because you love your community. And if you have a skill set to offer, you know, you offer it. So that's just sort of how it how it's gone for me. I love, I love that, you know, we show up out of love, like we do this love and everything. And I feel like that that kind of answers the question I was going to ask next is why would you say it's important for college students to get involved locally? Right.  And whether you know it or not, you have a really powerful voice. And there's been a long history of student activism in Burlington. And, you know, I think students, I don't want them to shy away from it. I think over the past few years that has has run really strong, like during this past mayoral campaign, I saw the UBM students show up in such a big way. So it's exciting to see that. I also think like I just really found a place in the community through doing that work. And I just think it's a great way to engage with with Burlington and be a part of something meaningful. Yeah, definitely. Were you when you were doing your campaigning and everything, like what was that process like? How did you yourself involved like that? Yeah, I mean, it's I'm trying to think about how like I first got into a campaign at all. I mean, it was really student organizing. It's just strong network at UBM. And once you start showing up a little bit, like Vermont is small enough that people people remember you and you'll get tapped, you know, for whatever the next thing is. And I remember when, you know, the infinite campaign came up, I volunteered to sort of be like the student connection there. And I started doing their social media and doing like fun content. Like that was sort of aimed towards students. Right. And then that came up again. So when Max Tracy ran for mayor, I got tapped because of that same sort of student network and and someone I had known from, you know, doing student organizing. And I got called in to do like a very similar role of social media and more graphic design. And I think it was just sort of like I knew that that was my skillset. And I had sort of made that known. And, you know, that's what I had to offer. And I think it's like, yeah, figuring out what you have to offer and sort of making that a little bit known. And people will will ask, you know, these are all great movements that that need people power. Yeah. So once you sort of sort of put yourself out there, I think it just gets easier and easier to get involved. Yeah, that's what I was going to that touches upon. My next question is if you had to give advice to, you know, an incoming freshman who doesn't really know how to get involved in a community that they're not familiar with, what would your advice be? I mean, first, firstly, the UVM groups are such a great connection. Just walking through the David Center, all the groups that table out there. I know that UVM Progressives did a really great job this last campaign. That's a great starting place to get your to get yourself out there. And I think my advice would be to lean into a little bit of discomfort at first because, you know, campaign work, if you haven't done it, it's new. And putting yourself out there can be nerve wracking and leaning into that and like being able to grow and meet challenges is so rewarding and teaches you so much. And that to me is like, I didn't think I could do phone banking. It's like when you you call voters, I'm so nervous on the phone.  So I showed up so nervous, but if you calls in all of a sudden, you're like, I'm talking to people, I can do this. I care about the issues. I can do this, you know? Yeah. And I think that, especially like in, you know, in current times, like actually showing up for stuff is like a lot less frequent. Like we're usually doing it through like a platform, like really showing up is rewarding and so worth it. I think you just have to lean into that. Yeah, that feeling. So now that you you're still living in the Burlington, do you see yourself continuing this activism and this involvement? Yeah, I mean, I want to live in Burlington and I'm interested in community building wherever it is, and I want to continue doing stuff that I think builds community, you know, and politics is for sure like one route to do that. And I'm going to continue to keep meeting, you know, meeting challenges as they come and opportunities, but, you know, leaning into that community building for as long as I live here. Yeah. Do you see yourself living here for, you know, the next several years? Definitely. Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah, I know how I would move. Yeah, you're making your mark here, clearing your voice heard, which is what matters. Yeah, and I think it's like another, you know, thing for students is like I think there's a misconception about who can be involved in politics and like you don't have to you don't need to be pursuing a job in politics to get involved here. It's like anyone can and should, you know, have their voice heard. That's how the system works. Yeah, I'm not going to even lie. I was assuming that maybe your major had been something, you know, along the more like political route, but to hear that you're just, you know, it's just something that you care about is very relatable, I think to a lot of people. Right. Totally. Yeah. And I think that that's, you know, Burlington's a better place to live when more people have their voice heard and work together and, you know, whatever it is you care about, whatever realm it is you work in or do like there's an avenue in which politics, you know, can support you. And yeah, so I think anyone can do it. Anyone should should try and engage themselves however they can. And do you have any future plans, any aspirations, anything that you hope to do, any, you know, future campaigning that you I mean, I'm currently working like a design marketing job that I love. So I want to keep doing that.  So I love that. Yeah, I mean, I just want to keep keep living here and and do community building. Yeah, I want to I want to hike Mount Mansfield. I haven't done that. So that's a goal. But yeah, that's awesome. I haven't done that either. And I'm going to be graduating soon. Definitely. Yeah, it's one of those ones. Everyone says, like, I think once you get to the top, those ones, I'll get it, you know, definitely. So I have one more question and it's have you heard of CCTV throughout your years? I most recently heard of it through working the campaign because of all of the digital debates. Yeah, we're talking about this is just like town meeting TV. Yeah, town meeting TV. Yes, totally. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I didn't really know about it before this past campaign, because obviously the nature of debates and and campaigning had changed so much. But town meeting TV really stepped up to the plate with those virtual debates. I mean, they yeah, definitely awesome resource to, you know, expose more people to town meeting TV. And yeah, some interest amongst the college age demographic. Yeah, I was so impressed to see that YouTube channel. There's always always yeah, something on you can watch some live stuff and some. Yeah, yeah, the neighborhood planning assemblies like that's awesome. That's our next project is we're going to be taking some content from the YouTube channel and downloading it and putting it on the Instagram to, you know, continue to inform people without so they can just stay on one platform. So that's awesome. Yeah, I'm so excited to hear that students are continuing to be involved. That just makes me so happy. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Well, I really appreciate you talking to me just for this quick, brief interview.  I can just tell and I really enjoyed speaking with you. Honestly, thank you so much. Thank you for everything that you're doing for the community and that you're going to get it. Yeah. Well, I really appreciate it. Have a great rest of your day. You too. Thank you.


So you were asking about the last starting tackle, was that because you were pumping up Nicholas? No. I don't think. What's today's date? The fifth? It's the fifth. My wife gets back in town today. She's in Canada. She's been in Canada since June 14th. But no, that had nothing to do with that. What I try to do is help Nick, help Dylan, help Tony because I'm a tackle. And I've been playing this game for a long time. I've been in this offense for a long time. I've been with Raves and Keith for a long time. So there's a lot of things that I know that they want that I can help with. So it's all about getting on guys when you need to and then gassing them up when you can too. You said you almost touched the knee today. No, I didn't actually almost touch the knee today. It was just a bloodbath out there when you got the pads on. Usually the first four or five days of pads are the most difficult. And then usually your body kind of calces into it. Or you kind of get used to the feeling of feeling that way. And then a team comes in. So I just, you know, a couple of guys on the ground today. And I almost, there wasn't anything pressing at all. Who was the guy you were talking about to help some of the young linemen? Who were the guys that did that for you when you came in the league? Yeah, I'd like to say Michael Ruse. I tell this story that I tweeted at him or DMed him and said that, hey, man, I really want to learn the playbook. And I was hoping you and I could sit down together and really go over the playbook and figure it all out and maybe could help me with some things. And he never responded to that DM, even after I saw him the next day and everything. But I think Ruse was, I think by far and away, just from a maturity standpoint, he was where I'm at now when I came in. And so, but even then, he was way more mature than I am now. He was just seemed like a guy that had his stuff together, very intelligent, knew the game of football, knew where to be extremely consistent. So a guy can help another guy by just watching that person and watching what they do and how they operate on a day-to-day basis. And that's what I did with Ruse quite a bit. And I'm sure he did that with B-Hop. And we've had a good 29 years of tackles here. And it's an honor to play left tackle here. So it's good to watch those guys.  Now Brewer is a smaller guy. Does that change anything at all for you in terms of how things are blocked up and how things are done? Some things, yes. Some things will be different. Brewer's got a different skill set than Roger. So yeah, some things, yes. Some things, no. Haskins after a run the other day, just with him, trying to fight somebody off of him. What have you seen from him? How much have you taken an interest in him being a midfielder? To be 100% honest, I don't really notice a whole bunch of guys unless you see like a deep ball or a guy get a pick or something like that or a guy winning in a game or a one on one. That's really, when you're at this point, for me, it's extremely important for the cohesiveness and the gel of the offensive line to really start taking strides and from a finish standpoint, from a fundamental standpoint. So I don't edge too far outside my lane when it comes to Son, though. Michigan guy, he was, I think, the first Michigan guy in here since me. And you take pride in that. You see what he did against Ohio State. You rooted for him and watched him when he was playing college. And so you just kind of gas up the boy whenever he was around.  So it's just cool.  On the other hand, with petite Freire, opposite school obviously, what is he like? He seems like such a mature, knowledgeable. Yeah, like a Rayman vibe. Exactly. Is that how he is? He's super intellectual. Yeah, he does kind of give off that vibe for sure. He keeps to himself. He asks good questions. He knows the playbook pretty well for rookie. He's, from a maturity standpoint, he seems much more developed than I was at that point. But same goes for Dylan too. I think Dylan was just a Midwest type guy. Keeps to himself and intelligent and knew that. And so they seem very similar to me where they're both at their rookie year. How do they adapt to your kind of style of leadership?  That's who you are. Yeah, obnoxious, loud and obnoxious. You know, as you ask, you kind of, when you play football the way I do or how I do from a unique, it's unique because of being an offensive lineman and how I do, roll my mouth quite a bit and how I play. And so it can be different for some people. And you check in with dudes. And it's easy to find out what guys need if you ask them what they need. It's not like I'm over there guessing. Well, it seems like Nick needs this and Dylan needs that. And Ben needs this from me. I literally go and say, hey, do you guys like it when I do X, Y, and Z? Sometimes, most of the time, it's yes. And then sometimes, like, hey, I actually am better off this way. And I usually try to cater to those guys the best I can. Because at the end of the day, we all have to work together real well. As at this point, you guys in the pads, are you guys getting to the point where you're looking forward to a preseason game or a joint practice? I don't think you ever look forward to a joint practice. You never look forward to it. And things are, it's like a lawless game. You know what I'm saying? You're out there in the wild west. But no, I mean, I think there's so much to get done. There's so much to do. There's so many things that you can get better at on a day-to-day basis, especially from an offensive line, the way we play together, the way we finish. This camp is going by very fast. But at the same time, it's like, you almost want time to slow down a bit, because there's always so much to work on. And being prepared for that week-on is so important to not have to take a couple of one, two, three, four games to kind of get into a groove of things. We need to protect the tent-a-hill now. We need to get Derek Yards now. And we need to finish now.  And it seems like guys come out every day to work. And when other guys aren't feeling it, there's guys there to pick them up. So I'm very proud of the way this offensive line is handling themselves. 15-20 snaps in the preseason, help you get ready for the season? Or do you feel like you can get everything accomplished here on the practice? Our front seven is extremely good. And so if Rabel wants me to get 15-20 snaps, I'll get 15-20 snaps. If he doesn't, then he doesn't. With the defense we have and how they play, leadership like Jeffrey Simmons, Bud DePri, Danico, and Harold, and David Long. Is that Cunningham? Those guys are studs.  And so I think we'll see. You mentioned the cohesiveness of the offensive line and wanting to see that. What does that look like on a day-to-day basis or in live reps, in joint practices, et cetera? The guys are knowing what to do and being fast and aggressive. Understanding there are certain key points that Keith gives us on every single play. What is it? How do you identify that play? How does that play look? What if X, Y, and Z happens? If you're able to register that fast, know the snap count, and fire off the ball, then that is cohesiveness. And when five guys are doing that, that's good jail and good chemistry.  A lot of guys don't get the luxury of guys like me and Ben being able to play together for seven, eight years. I don't even know what it is now. It's been a long time of him and I being the other.  And it's getting these other guys who are maybe newer or whatever, Nate, even, too. Everyone on the same page always. And I think it's going well. We'll have to see every day is a new day. It's not like one of those things you just got it. You kind of got to, unfortunately, earn that every day. It's not like a one-done thing. David, he just talked about how going up against this defense in front seven is great work every day. What are you all doing to try to build off the last year? I think just building a team. We had the pieces here just another year of building off where we left the last year. I think we went off on a good note. Didn't really come out our way. But still knowing we have the pieces and the people capable of getting the job done, now we just keep building that team. As you continue to stack practices with Zach Cunningham, how is that coming along as far as that chemistry and the ability to play off and compliment each other? It's going along good, man. We've been here the last few weeks, just on the field, but in the meeting room as well. Just make a show, we're on the same page, whether it's any type of package or anything it is. Just make it sure we know the cause. We can play off each other as well. David, talk early enough about wanting to be more of a vocal leader. Do you find yourself doing that more? Has it kind of been more natural? Yeah, when it's needed. I'm not about to be the raw, raw guy, but when I see that my voice needs to step up, I need to say something or get them going, I will. What do you see from some of the young guys that are whether it's McCreary or Farley, who's back in the mix? What have you seen from the young guys and the defense? I think they've picked up the standard as far as how we play on defense, fast, physical, with a little bit of swag. I think the guys are coming along. We're still getting into the pads and stuff, but I think especially in my room with Gibby, and Chance, and then Roger out there making plays, I think the rookies are coming along and still making some plays. Still got a long way to go, though. What's been the key for you in the last year or so to be able to improve as a past defender enough that you're staying on the field in the sub-packages? Right. I think just learning the offenses, just being more comfortable playing out in space, going out the quarterback eyes, and then just taking coaching, I think all of those, adding it to my game, just paying attention to the guys that's been here, just getting better. That's why I can stay on the field and be able to play in passes and stuff like that. Just learning from the guys in front of me and also just adding to my game whether I've got three new coaches. I've had a new linebacker coach every year. So just picking up any game they can give me, just giving it to my own. What have you seen out of him as a rookie? He's a guy who just seems to put his head down and go to work. Yeah, that's exactly what he is. He's smart. He's not running from no contact or anything. He just is a guy that wants to learn. He'll make it be guys that come in there early. They can know the plays before we do. So that's just good. They can get in here and learn and still just be able to learn in the defense as a whole. David, what have you seen from the secondary as a whole, how much of a compliment can they be to the front side of the thing? I think they could be a big compliment. I think we all work together, especially with hook, KB. Then AJ working his way in. And Roger, I think he's out there on the nicks sometimes. So we all can pick up that standard that we play at as dogs and just keep it rolling. The word that comes up with Zach all the time is instinctive. How much have you seen that? What does that do for your job in particular? I think we make both of our jobs easier. When we play fast and instinctive, whether we can free up some blocks for the other person or just make the defense better as a whole. Like I said before, I think we both have a lot of similarities as far as being instinctive, downhill, and aggressive. So as long as we play like that, then we'll be all right. Taylor will want to say he is not a fan of joint practices. I don't know.  But you're going to have two this year. Do you guys look forward to that kind of work? Or is that something you don't I do. I like the work. I like sometimes to get a little back and forth out there. I like that. Just going against people that's not my teammates. So now I can let it a bit loose.  But I think it's good work early in the season, because most of us are not going to play the whole game. So we get our work out here on the field. So that's good. Nice to have it here at home, because you guys were on it. Yeah, we went to Tampa, man. It was cooking out there last year. I mean, it's hot here as well. So it's cool. We don't have to travel, though. It makes it better. What do you do to keep your body fresh and keep soreness away when you've got some second practices in the middle of camp? What do you do during off days? That cold tub, even though it don't feel good all the time, but just consistently getting that cold tub and then getting the recovery boots and sleep. Whenever we get a chance to get away from here, I go straight home and go to sleep. That's all. Did you always hate the cold tub? In high school, I did. But when I went to college, I had to get used to it. And then when I got here, it was just more of just repetition and just keeping it in my routine. David, what do you say from Cheg when you've matched up with him and just when you've observed him out there? He's a big body. He can run as well. He can catch, he got soft hands. I think he's still working his way, just like all the rookies, just still finding that tempo or their groove in this. It'll come along, we got the first game next week. Then we got two more after that, so still some time to go. Yeah, I'm eager to see everybody get out there. We haven't played a game, especially the rookies. Just see how they can get out there and play against other teams. And wrap up, it's different when it's live, so. Are you seeing any, how was practice today, I guess, in short? It's a wonderful question. There is a lot of times there's some good stuff. I thought situations were good. I think that we at least had an understanding of what was going on from some of the short yardage stuff that we did and then transitioning into longer, third down, longer possession downs. But then having a segue to first and second, and then on the two minutes. So we'll continue to rep these things. And there was, like a lot of things, there was a lot of good things. And there were some plays that we made on offense, which are not going to be good on defense. We turned the ball over on offense, which is going to be something that we're going to have to do defensively. But offensively, that's just going to hurt us. We saw a little bit of a change up today, but how is that coming for you? Just to, I think it was pretty much something we're trying to do just to make sure that everybody's having a chance that Nick and Dylan are competing. And we'll see where that goes here through the rest of the preseason. Nick, maybe get more of a chance today? Well, I think that's where we're at now. I think that that's something that, you know, to have a competition, I think you're going to have to put guys in a similar situation. So that's where we are as of today. Berks and defensive cornerback. Farley. Farley, thank you. Berks and Farley match up today. You guys been here long? First day? We got in for the weekend. I couldn't tell. Never going to be about one match up here. So we weren't able to score there at the end in a two-minute situation. I think through our camp, guys have made plays. And that's what happens in this league. Sometimes guys make plays. You get beat. You have to come back, make a mistake. You have to come back and try to get back to neutral. We know that these games are groups of a lot of plays. And one play can't define us. So whether Traylon had a good play or Caleb made a nice play, that's going to go on throughout the front, offensive and defensive lines, tight ends and safeties. Those are all the match ups that occur. So that's just one small match up out here in practice. How do you feel about Rayce and what he's done seeming to emerge more as an offensive weapon and a deep threat and what he brings to the offense? When you take advantage of our opportunities and you start to show up and you make plays and you know where you're supposed to be and a quarterback starts to build some trust with you, you get more opportunities. So I think that's a situation of a lot of those things happening for Rayce and we're trying to take advantage of his skill set and the momentum that maybe he's had here the last couple of days. How much do they help maybe guys recover and still get work in? I mean, those would be questions, I think, for the players to try to see. But typically, Jim, what we try to do is come in and have a meeting, have some sort of situational squad meeting we're all present, give an opportunity to go in an offensive defensive unit meetings, do a lift with the recovery lift that Frank has for him and his strength staff, whatever dynamic warm-up or movement that they have, yoga, lifting.  And obviously, a lot of treatment through those days. Mike, how do you feel about Ryan's decision-making in this camp maybe compared to what you've seen from him in the past? I think it's been good. I think he's been pretty decisive. I think he's been very accurate on days. I know he had the interception yesterday that he tried to get the ball layered over Kevin's head. But I would say that all in all, he's been pretty accurate. I really kind of like where his tone is and the way that he's talking to those skilled players that he's throwing to it. It's a big group. So in any snap, he could have a different combination of guys, maybe a lot less than what would be in the season. And I hear coach, I hear him talking and I hear. So when your quarterback does that or your position players do that, let's say Kevin Byrd or David Long Jeff, then really, we don't need to say anything. And Ryan's telling those guys where he wants them that there's a correction that needs to be made. You see some of those things being done in those group periods. What do you remember about Richard Seymour as a player, maybe as a teammate and kind of cool? I think just from an early on perspective, he just was so mature. He just came in and he had just this unbelievable stature, size, build to him, length and just but mature. He didn't act like a kid that was 20 or 21 years old, powerful, great teammate. It was really fun to play with, was really instrumental in my development there as an outside linebacker, having luxury of playing next to him. You just talked about a good finish for Hassan Haskins on one of his run there. I mean, just what has he done so far in camp that you've seen in a day like this where Derek's not out there? Yeah, I think just trying to get more decisive in those runs and making sure that those holes or those cuts aren't going to be there forever and just making sure that he's coming back and wherever he's cutting, making a good, violent cut, getting his pads down, protecting the ball and finishing on contact. How much has David Long progressed over the last couple of years as a pass cover guy enough so that he can stay in in the sub-packages line? Well, I would just say his overall growth and development since we've got him, he's always been an instinctive player and always been able to find the ball. I think the understanding of our defense has really improved. Say, listen, get the call, know what you're supposed to do. When you get lined up in the right spot, then we kind of have to, as coaches, kind of let him go. And if he's not lined up in the right spot, probably going to need to coach him. But there's a lot of things that he does that are very instinctive. And he's not the fastest player, but he challenges guys and whether that's tight ends or running backs, trying to get his hands on them or whatever techniques that's being asked of him. Well, one of his brand of leadership maybe isn't for everybody. But do you see him doing more of it? I've heard and seen him kind of. I usually always hear him. But I think that he brings in energy. That is critical in training camp and practice. And just looking for some consistency that we told him, just that's great to be the same guy every single day. And it's important. And that type of energy and attitude and leadership is critical that it stays there each and every day.