Episode 35 the podcast the new version of the podcast is now I am I'm getting ancient folks. That's just that's just how it goes. I'm getting rickety in the bones over here So how's it going?  Oh boy today Oh boy massive spoilers a majority of this podcast is so I'm warning everyone right now if you don't want spoilers one Why'd you click on a podcast that literally says Pokemon legends Arceus spoilers and leaks because we're clearly talking about them It's in the thumbnail on the video. It's in guys right spoiler warning honey right now.  So those are those are two big topics besides our typical kickoff What's up, buddy? Oh, hey, it's authentic. Hey my work. Am I work? Let me let me see. Hold on Eric needs me to authenticate him to confirm. He's a real person. Yeah.  All right. So how you guys doing tonight? I am your host as always mr. Nathaniel ruffle jantz and to my left and your guys is right is our co-host mr. Eric more Game on all right buddy. All right, so we're gonna have some fun tonight First up though, we always start every single podcast this way What have we been playing lately?  Let's see I finally beat Mario Odyssey. Oh He has joined the club no in the story thoughts on the end I liked it actually. Yeah, I liked it. I liked it. I like the playing as Bowser for a little while Yeah, that was definitely what I did have one major gripe with the game though When I have a major gripe with the fact I didn't turn the fan on you keep talking about your game There's that too, but I know when Like if you're you're in the middle of trying to collect the moon and whatnot and all this new die It feels like you have to run like 800 million miles just to get back to like, you know Anywhere that that's close to even attempt and get the moon again like I went through the the dark side tower That's like why do I have to run all the way from this stupid flag?  I don't I don't understand it So, yes, I beat Mario Odyssey and Then just for the hell of it. I bought this take a truth and Guys, you saw most of our game the first one wait, wait, I think is the first one. Yeah, and then the bottle one I got them both. Yeah, sort of playing that of course you did. Yeah, is it a lot better than your phone game? It's different. I mean it. It's completely different game Considering my phone game is a card based game, but yeah, it is completely different It's like a full-on RPG. No, no for sure. And actually a lot of the case some of the characters from my phone game come from This here is that what commits you did the foot wait wait Did they pull off what Nintendo's been trying to do with their apps where you download Mario Run? And then you buy Mario Odyssey. No, we're playing the South Park phone game And I made you want to buy this I've been playing the South Park phone game for you have a while But I'd yell at you sometimes. Okay, put the game down. Yeah, we got stuff to do I'm hot. Hold on. She's like two minutes. Yeah, right. I'm supposed to start five minutes ago. Yeah, right, but uh, no, um No, I was just going through the Motor one of them. I don't know if it was most downloaded or just I was just randomly browsing the App store and it's just like Cool. Hey look there it is. Hey look I can afford it and just points cool I had spent money. Oh, yeah, so it was on sale for like $7.50. So like yep, okay, sure That's why that's why I did it. That's why I did it. That is a good price. Um All right, so is that so that's what you've been doing. Yeah, how far how far are you getting like how long you think you spent playing? I Think I got like six hours in the game before hour and a half I want to say six hours before I stop playing that because I wanted to there's just other stuff that came out And I just had a prioritize because hey South Park exactly isn't you know, like the biggest game top out of the Guess you got it on switcher to get an Xbox. Yeah, but I played it It's not really any better on my uh, no my sister and brother-in-law and I went down to Madison this last weekend for what was supposed to be a doubleheader hockey game But the women's got canceled because of COVID and So but hey the men's one Phenomenal see Absolutely amazing All right That's cool.  He's just the same software. Okay.  Do you those who watched like, you know a month ago my league games versus watch him now I'm significantly better than I was a month ago. Let's just say my Madden skills are started starting to come back Starting to come back. Well besides that obviously because a lot of people always like Madden Obviously Pokemon Brilliant Diamond bust of that back out again this this last Tuesday So just yesterday and we have one more Tuesday before Legends Arceus comes out me to try to beat that Very very frustrated with Pokemon Brilliant Diamond Very frustrated. I do not here's the thing. I'm stupidly excited for Pokemon Legends Arceus And we're gonna get into why because we have spoilers, but yeah Like as I'm I'm experiencing Diamond and Pearl basically for the very first time because I never played the originals I am just very frustrated with Pokemon in general And not enjoying it at all. But because I promised I'd at least go through the elite 4 I'm gonna hopefully beat the elite 4 next Tuesday. If not, I got a stream on Thursday then which that sucks Because Legend Arceus might be available to play at some point Thursday night So I don't know maybe there'll be a dual stream where I go from one to the other. I don't know, but Yeah, we will be streaming or I will be streaming Legends Arceus the night it comes out I don't know if Eric will be over for that stream or not just to check out the game Or maybe he wants to pop into play it. Maybe he has a copy of it. Maybe we play together I don't know idea if there's multiple. I have no idea how it even works Yet, so I haven't looked at all the leaks, but we'll get to that So yeah, I've been playing so that Besides that if you want to know what are you playing in your spare time? It I've just been playing We with my kids Not like any particular game. These are just games that came with the we and it's not even we sports Just some weird funky games. I've never played some really crappy third-party games party games They're really not very good, but my children for some reason think that they're That that that they're so that they're so great. Yeah. Yeah, they're not but hey, you know what as long as my kids are having fun That's really that's really all the matters. I'm gonna shut this off So Here's the here's the thing That's really all I've been doing. However, I will have more time lately my my other Pain gig cut my hours in half. So what are you gonna do? I'm gonna have more time now. That's all right Thank you so much by the way take or 610 who was watching our thing live He gave a little $2 super chat mentioning a wire Pokemon game released as two games on a fan here It's just been that way since Gen 1. It's just always been that way. Yeah Pokemon legends Arceus happen. All right, so obviously we're stupidly excited to get into the Pokemon stuff But first we got to talk about Activision Blizzard, right? We have to talk Activision Blizzard So this was a surprise this week Activision Blizzard. Yeah, Activision Blizzard was Bottle by Microsoft now to be clear the sale is not official. Okay The sale the Microsoft said they're not planning forward to count on their financials until I don't know closer to summer of 2023 yeah, so closer to summer of 2023 It really all depends on how quickly it goes through the government could get it the sale could get approved this year But you know it they're not planning for to get approved like early 2023 and then they'll count it on that fiscal year so Yeah, that's what was the big announcement Phil Spencer put it out there. Yeah, we're buying Activision Blizzard for a whopping What 69.7 billion? 68.7 yeah Hard to even imagine that that amount of money all cash to street cash Street cash on me. They backed up. They backed up the semis They're the best at the semis dump the cash right in the front lawn and the walk away Which we would be weird since how they own the company so they dump it on their own lawn then anyway So yeah, they bought Activision Blizzard Obviously, it's the largest video game studio acquisition of all time not even close Like the largest was when they bought Xenomax and then I think it was Zynga that was recently sold for like 12 billion That became the biggest one and apparently Activision Blizzard was in the works to potentially be involved in that and buying that didn't happen And then here we are at 68 point seven billion dollars blowing the lid off of like To give you an idea guys. We're a Nintendo podcast Nintendo channel right primarily cover Nintendo That is more than the total value of Nintendo as a company Nintendo isn't even worth sixty eight point seven billion dollars What is it sixty? I don't I think it's more in the 50 I thought I read 60. But it's all about see see the value of Nintendo is all about how do you properly value the IP? That that's a bit. How do you properly value the IP because cash? I mean, it's only about nine ten billion in the bank. Yeah. All right, then you have the shares And then on top of that what's what's the actual value of that IP and for the most part Everyone considers Mario Pokemon Zelda even Metroid to be among some of the most valuable IP in the world But also only like a handful of them like Animal Crossing Mario and Zelda You know in Pokemon sell like gangbusters and Splatoon probably now too So I don't know. I don't really know how you can properly value IPs like that I've been around for 30 plus years, but Doesn't matter because Nintendo is not for sale and they're gonna be extremely hard to sell because the majority of their shares Well, the number one shareholder for Nintendo is actually a trust fund at a bank And that trust fund belongs to the originating founding family of Nintendo Yeah, and like they are have no interest in ever selling off those shares Because literally it's the founding family of Nintendo. They want to always have the most power at Nintendo They don't want to go anywhere. They were the ones that that that powered Nintendo through the half an undercard days the gangster days of Nintendo They love hotels and you know The the the old the old people running Nintendo, you know kind of cheating on their wives all the time And it was it was crazy. Wow. Wild West days at Nintendo. They were not always this family-friendly company We view them as the day that started basically with video games to be completely honest That means that it's it's interesting when we look at this acquisition Because obviously the biggest question out of this is Does this mean? Not this year because Microsoft doesn't plan to own them this year.   How the hell did your job survive past that and then obviously all of the stuff That's happened since then obviously the worst of it culminating in someone committing suicide at the company Lots of lawsuits happening in the state of California federal government going after them insane, right? Like this is just unprecedented.  I don't understand it Bobby Kotek is not a good person and Yeah, it's just the thing is Reports have it that once the acquisition is finalized Bobby Kotek will be bought out which He's not gonna see you anymore because they're not gonna have a board anymore The entire board will be bought out because the board will be absolved and or dissolved I guess and the thing is He's gonna he's gonna get a nice payday because the buy-out of this contract is gonna be about 270 million dollars That's just the the clauses in his contract But here's the thing that might buy him out of his contract. It doesn't buy his shares He has a lot of she's one of the top shareholders because he's been there for so long because people think oh his base salary He'll always talk my base salary isn't very high I know but your bonuses are high and you get a shitload of shares every single year as bonuses So the thing is Microsoft's pretty much trying to buy at least 51% of the shares and I'm presuming they want all of Bobby shares So Bobby's gonna get even more than 270 million Now to be clear There's a high high potential that Bobby Kotek's gonna be facing a bunch of civil lawsuits from current and former employees And all that money is gonna pay from Microsoft would be able to be sued for by you know a former and former and current employees So it's entirely possible. He might not walk away with as much money as we think he will But it doesn't really matter. He already has more money in his bank accounts than we can even imagine. He owns islands He's probably never going to jail And I think that's the sad part about it is is he's gonna be able to enjoy his wealth the rest of his life Not saying his family schindler's wife or kids or anything else.  He's got all the money and if he's got a prenup Well, yeah, yeah, come on. I was because I'm presuming usually CEOs in this position make their wife sign a prenup because the force is very common So yeah, I don't I don't really know that whole situation.  Well, and especially considering what he did try to do. Oh, yeah So here's the funny thing. So the shareholders, this is just being reported Can't be verified at the moment, but I don't know if it ever will be here's the thing The shareholders told Bobby cotton you need to do something to resolve the reputation issues Activision Blizzard has right now and wake up All of the controversy So one of the first moves he attempted to do reportedly or even reported by multiple outlets It's he attempted to buy Kotaku PC gamer and potentially some other news outlets. Eric. What were the reason? What's the reason he was trying to buy media news outlets? So he could change the narrative of what's going on at activity change the narrative He literally thought one of his very first ideas to save the reputation of Activision Blizzard Was to buy out media outlets to create stories That are positive Instead of changing the actual culture, you know, I forget No, no, no, I remember he's threatened how when the lawsuit first came out He's threatened California with we're gonna leave. We're gonna take our business to a different state.  So it's kind of like you're buying You're buying already the the one outlet that people really don't like that much and on top of that You're buying them to save your narrative, right? Yeah Honestly, that would just destroy your narrative and maybe sink your entire company now rumor has it That the shareholders upon hearing that this was his plan basically told him No, we want out. So the major shareholders including some banks and obviously some some some big name people Basically told Bobby straight up. No We won't we want out. We were done with that division. We want you to sell What do you mean you want me to sell we want you to sell the company Which is just mind-blowing for a company worth Even consider selling So he reached out to a number of companies Microsoft actually the last For one of the very first companies reached out to and apparently wanted to sell to was Facebook or as it's now known as Metta or Facebook meta ink or whatever they officially rebounded to And that deal, you know, I guess negotiated for a small bit, but they weren't valuing Probably anywhere close to what the makers of world of Warcraft and Call of Duty stuff are worth They're probably I think I would say Mark Zuckerberg might be a lot of things.  They don't hit it. You know, they already are having a hard time It was Oculus, right? That's someone they are having a hard time with that So like they've already got their hands of so many different pots and he's really what do they best at their best at social media Well, and then even though you say Facebook's not as relevant Instagram is and guess what that's Facebook's you know I they own that so from I don't know if Facebook has some some of their own skeletons But you know, I couldn't be another Facebook has skeletons. They've been No, I'm not like with the with this type of oh, yeah, I don't know if they do or not But I don't remember I want to say they did but I could be and I don't want to I don't want to say if it's wrong But um another thing too is obviously they probably didn't also want to bring in this type of Oh, yeah, plus it's yeah like this Facebook really think they could fix that culture. I I don't know So then eventually they reached out to Microsoft and apparently the deal came together Super quick Phil Spencer was like, oh wait really now obviously you might be like how did it come together so quickly? Well Phil Spencer just asked the board at Microsoft and they pretty much universally said if you think this is what we need to do Do it, right? I mean he got full autonomy and the funny thing is in getting full autonomy to make this deal They also formed the Microsoft gaming executive board, which he is part of he was previously head of Xbox Now he's head of his entire board that just runs an entire gaming division That's essentially separate from Microsoft but gets the dip into all of Microsoft's funds and Phil Spencer Phil Spencer no longer guys has to go to the board to get permission to make acquisitions Damn That's insane like that's really big news to out of all this we found that out like Phil Spencer gonna do whatever he wants now That's how much Microsoft trusts him. That's insane considering that Microsoft's gaming division has not made them money since the 90s So like it's crazy for a division that's just been a sunk cost for them for over, you know two decades Suddenly hey, we believe in what you're doing. We believe in game pass So it's kind of all crazy how this all came together Yeah, so Bobby Kotrick's gonna be out. That's the big news and the second thing we need to know though So now that we the reports are out there Bobby Kotrick than we gone. That's fine.   They want game pass in every home. Yeah, okay They did not need to buy Activision Blizzard to get their games on game pass You want to prove for that the sale hasn't even been approved and the games are already coming to game pass Yeah, they could have just wrote a fat check They could have wrote a fat check and just had the game's day one on game pass like they've done for other companies They've already done MLB the show day one a game pass. They don't own MLB the show Yeah, they wrote a fat check to the MLB. They could have just wrote a fat check not 68.7 billion maybe just one billion. Yeah, right and they could have got all of these games day one on game pass In perpetual for the next 10 years or whatever the contract would have been So they didn't need to buy them to get them on game pass So what is the real value of buying them? If some people go they must keep these games on PlayStation They must keep releasing them there because it's almost 70 billion dollars. They need to recoup money It's a lot of money. Why rock the boat? And I go Why buy a company if you're just gonna maintain the status quo? What what's the benefit to Microsoft to spend 70 billion dollars to just keep things the way they are that makes no sense You're not investing 70 billion dollars to keep things the same Because they already would have just left them alone They already get those games and you can say oh, they spent the 70 billion to save them their reputation You don't spend 70 billion dollars to save a reputation of another company.  Yeah, they are so far ahead of the game at the moment That they are thinking so far beyond the capability of most of our brains to comprehend and Phil Spencer has been so openly and stupidly Honest about this and everyone is just ignoring it all Microsoft cares about right now is game pass subscriptions They've gained 7 million in the last year up from 18 million in the year prior Their goal is to get it to a hundred million here in the next five years and they want to get it up to a billion at one point I don't know if that's ever gonna happen Phil Spencer's talked about this and how are you gonna do that?  He's Phil Spencer said that publicly so at the on record.  They're not dumb, but also why are they spending 70 bill because they feel That this could boost their subscriptions Massively in the next three to four years this can get them to their hundred million goal Now to be clear Phil Spencer said and we're not gonna ruin existing, you know Stuff, you're right. They're not gonna yank Call of Duty warzone off PlayStation They're not gonna next Vanguard the next Call of Duty this year They're not gonna yank off any of the current games on PlayStation and warzone's a never-ending game So that's good. They're not gonna get rid of it just like with Minecraft. It's already on the platforms We're gonna leave it alone. We're not gonna yank it however He said nothing about future Communities which can't exist yet because the games aren't out yet in my humble opinion And I can just point to Xenomax and what they're doing with Bethesda and go Microsoft didn't spend 70 billion to make these games multi-plat that hurts their ability To pump up game pass because they could have kept them multi-plat and never spent 70 billion dollars and had those games on game past they want them to be Elusive the game past platforms because guess what it does it makes anyone who's fans of them No, they don't have to get game pass they could just buy an Xbox Series X and buy a copy of the game That's a win for Microsoft.  Absolutely as Phil Spencer if he cares Nope Sony can't afford to spend 70 bill. So it ain't Microsoft's problem. Now. Will the sale get approved? That's the one thing people worry about it being a monopoly. All I will say on that is No, it's not it's not gonna be a block If you look up the definition of a monopoly it would mean that this acquisition would mean nobody else in the industry can be successful Switch has a hundred million units on the market PlayStation always has a hundred million units other games at Ubisoft and EA Obviously, you know Naughty Dog and Nintendo like all of these are still selling lots and lots of copies and are not impacted by this at all All this does is take away some content from people on PlayStation because We did get a crash right racing and crash Maybe we still get those smaller games. I have no idea Anyways, that's my take what what what's your take on all this Eric? Absolutely insane amount of money To a certain extent good for Microsoft Interesting for the rest of the gaming gaming world Honestly, if the biggest thing that came out of this is Bobby's gone, I mean, that's that's that I mean I'm sorry Bobby has to go and Microsoft's gonna reform the whole management of that that's doing right to fix all this because By the way, I don't want to see him pretend that Microsoft's always been like Humble and perfect Bill Gates has a very controversial history at the company with sexism and all that but That seemed to go away after he left the company and they've had many females in charge at at at Microsoft since those days And if you look at the gaming board Okay, Phil Spencer's at the top right? He's a man Sure, but like seven of the other 12 members of that of that board that controls all of Microsoft gaming and by the way Phil Spencer can't just do whatever he wants. It's got to get approved by the board our female of That mixed races and everything. So like it's a wide variety Let me let me just tell you if there's anyone that's gonna handle diversity and take care of sexism in their gaming thing It's gonna be a board. That's literally primarily female Phil Spencer can't do anything without the majority and they make up the majority so Like Microsoft has really set up well to deal with whatever the hell is going on with Activision Blizzard get the bad eggs out of there Because there's still gonna be some just because Bobby and the board are gone Doesn't mean there's not bad eggs still seated all over the company and they're gonna figure it out They're gonna get their HR in there They're gonna actually go through the real complaints and emails that they're trying to delete and the documents They've been trying to shred like crazy They're gonna figure this shit out and this might actually get the government to back off of it The government might be a little relieved Because they the government I think doesn't even know what they were gonna do with this situation Yeah, like they've all these lawsuits and like we don't even know like what are we what are we trying to do? Just get money from them like what what are we gonna do? We can't the government can't hostile take over a company So what are they gonna do just sanction them like I mean they could but with Microsoft They could just find them into oblivion one and I do wonder if those lawsuits will go away Once if the acquisition is approved by the government if it's like, okay Let's put everything's on pause now because we're not suing Microsoft And I wonder if the lawsuits turn towards Bobby Because ultimately he's the one that threatened to leave the state.  He's killed hr complaints just moved employees to different studios because they're his friends and He paid for the Cosby suite supposedly so like this is I mean, I have a feeling that once Microsoft takes over as long as they do whatever measures The government asks of them. Yeah once they implement them. I wonder if all those lawsuits are just like We're going after Bobby.  I I just have a feeling that's gonna happen possibly I mean, I don't know if they I don't know how that works So the only sad news to me out of this Well, first of all, do you think the games are gonna end up being exclusive? I I think you don't even make this purchase without you're you're not wrong. I feel like I have a good argument, but Yeah, I don't I I don't know why you would by the way. I don't want them to be I still want games on nintendo But for those of you that think and microsoft's all buddy buddy with nintendo I want to remind you that yeah, we're getting banjo kazooie. Maybe we end up getting crash. Uh, we're not crash good, um Conquers match for a day or whatever on the switch online. Maybe we get banjo 2e on there too. I don't know Here's the thing here's the thing those are originally on n64. Yeah And if you look at the other games microsoft has brought over they have brought over indy games cuphead and ori Both of those are made by studios microsoft does not own Yeah, to be clear, they do not own those indy studios They paid for the games to be made and they own the rights But the studios approached microsoft said we want to put these games on switch and microsoft said, well, why wouldn't we let you microsoft's own Self-owned studios aren't even going to broach the topic So to be clear Yeah, microsoft put some games on switch and on playstation to be clear or even to playstation cuphead went to playstation Yeah, but to be clear those are indie studios that they don't own so Want to be clear about what's happening here The only thing you could argue is that nintendo was supporting cross platform play with minecraft When sony was blocking it so that better together update that was a big deal at the time because There's a lot of shade at sony for like and even still to this day They really don't like cross platform play they support it but you have to get it approved through all these different Tears at sony. It's really weird Sony just doesn't want you playing anything, but sony yeah she Yeah, I you know I again you made you made the point It's why why buy it if you're not gonna put and make it actually work for you Yeah, so All right I think it's time. I think we made the people wait long enough. I think we waited long enough It's time to go to some pokemon legends arceus spoilers. All right folks Sorry, so some picture. We're at central leaks here central leaks. He's a very very very very popular Place for pokemon leaks on the internet Not every leak has happened here We might go to our discord server and grab some because we have had credit to the fox out there Who's been sharing all as many leaks as he can We have pretty much everything the game is leaked. We have gameplay clips We have the entire pokemon decks And what's interesting is one eric really hasn't seen anything.  So If you know, especially if you're watching the video version because we're going to be playing clips So if you hear some audio I don't know we might mute the audio because it wouldn't make any sense But we're going to play clips of so if you're listening to the audio version Clearly at this point if you want to see all the spoilers I highly suggest you head on over to our youtube channel You understand our prime podcast channel and watch the video version so you can get the full context Otherwise just listen to eric and I's thoughts on pokemon if you're just hey, whatever All right, so we got some of the pokemon here Um There's a hell of a lot more but hold on. I think I have a complete list. Well, what I will get to it So this is some of the pokemon. We have the entire decks. Um, so a lot I think these are the legendaries I believe or something like that I mean they look like pokemon I don't really have any like deep thoughts on the on the character designs on the pokemon designs I think they just look like pokemon. I think this like little genie guy looks cool. Maybe he's already in the games I have no idea. Here's the thing. We are not pokemon experts over here Right, so I can't tell you if these pokemon have been In before or if they haven't been in pokemon before I think the ones What I can tell you is when we go to other other parts of this where they show other pokemon I recognize them from brilliant diamonds. So I'll be like, oh, yeah Um, but yeah, these I think these are the legendaries um Cool, I mean pokemon. I think the ones that say, uh, like Hissui and hissui. Yeah, those are those are actually these might already already be in No, no, hissui and is the region right? No, no, but uh, I'm saying these it might already be Pokemon already in these are just different versions Well, yeah, but that different versions constitute new pokemon and pokemon. That's how that's Welcome to pokemon. Welcome Um Anyways, that's how you end up getting near a thousand pokemon. Um, probably maybe we're out of thousand after this game I I don't know the official, uh numbers here. So, um, we're going to actually zoom this in a little here Well, it makes it easier for me to read too makes easier for you guys to read. Um So, uh, this is kind of cool So pokemon legend arceus, uh, has been discovered that he uses nintendo's new networking library So the same one that monster hunter rise uses still uses the old peer-to-peer network now That might be just for trading or battling. We don't really I don't really know off the top of my head But they are using the new online network. I'm not really sure what it's for quite yet I haven't gotten that far into the spoiler. So maybe we'll discover what the online play really is The problem is these leaks are happening in real time. So the people are playing through the game right now I don't think anybody's actually gotten to the end So we don't know everything quite yet, but we probably will by the weekend all right um So here's some in-game of what sam samerot Sam sam samerot, right? Yeah, that's a pokemon in-game I mean, I like the pokemon or their actual sizes. Yeah, right. I think I think that's really cool Two mages Snorlax is boiling around behind you if they had a Snorlax in this, I don't think they do You can catch all the gen 4 legendary and mythical pokemon in this game And the only other legendaries in the game are the forces of nature Also yet again, there's no new mythical pokemon in the files for this year's movie. So a movie that comes out later this year um Here is the tech stump of the story Oh boy Oh boy, holy. Yeah, so that's the tech stump of the story. We're not going to be able to go through that whole tech stump Yeah, no, I mean there's there's no way we'll go over little details We'll go we'll go through little details as we go here, but we're obviously not going to go through that entire tech stump That's a lot to go through. Uh, but it is there on central leaks if you guys are interested Um, so here's our first little footage that we have Uh our first little footage that we that we've seen obviously it's gonna be It looks like a little rough No, I don't know if the frame dips I'm seeing here if that's from the game or if that's just the capture Yeah, the capture software because the thing is like we can't control who has this game and who doesn't that they There were official retail leaks so they might not have the greatest computer the greatest capture stuff So I'm going to say that I this probably isn't representative of the performance of the game, but it could be But we've seen from the official footage that it was smoother than this So I'm assuming this is just capturing issues. Um, so this is a fight What what I find interesting is like the trainers running around or they captured it Wait, okay. Look at look at this So so here's your pokemons. Okay. What are your thoughts? I'm just it almost looked like that the trainer was bouncing back and forth between the pokemon and Telling them both the fight and what it looked like, but I don't know if that's true or not Yeah, and like here's here's your pokemons screen. So no, we don't have the the one in there But yeah, it just looked like it was that's a little weird. So it's really interesting You can run around during the battles. I go go beautify. You can run around. You don't have to stay stationary Yeah, that's new it doesn't take you out of the world. No, you're still in the world It's not a separate area. Yeah, right, um, which is awesome Yeah, which and I also wonder if in this can other pokemon walk up behind you and like start attacking the trainer Or if they leave you alone during the fight, they probably leave you alone during the fight, but I have no idea Um, so we're seeing some some some battle here between eevee and uh, beautify Um, I'm assuming this level 18 eevees from this person back here, but I'm not exactly 100% sure possibly This is just showing a little bit of a battle and then it ends and you have a little conversation. Um So here's a trainer battle with a Hissui decidua using his signature move triple arrows um I mean, this is obviously in a different area of the game lava coming down probably more like out in the wild area um So first I want to ask you visually. What do you think? I mean, this isn't obviously full 1080p year and this is all downgraded twitter videos Right, right. So we've got to we've got to keep compression in minds Yeah, that's kind of what I was going to see in the background. It look doesn't look the sharpest, but yeah There's I could I could tell looking at this. We're looking at a 4k screen. This is like 480p. Yeah, this is not, you know anyways, um I don't know the art design is terrible um But the art design's like, you know the classic Enemy style sort of yeah Is that like full chibi-chibi? But and you see the full attacks which are cool. I mean, I know they've had little tiny animations and pokemon games I'm hoping that uh, we don't have like the the double kick. It's just Jump It'd be cool if they actually go ahead and actually kick them. Yeah, because right now they're just standing looking at each other Yeah, I mean, I want to see some like actual like like aerial like I want to see what the fly attack Actually fly down and hit them. Let's see. I want to see if that actually happens right right actual As we're as we're going to like some of them I know like the pony down the other one was looked like it was actually gonna actually Charge and hit the pokemon. But yeah, yeah, hopefully they have the variations in the attacks too So it's not like just uh, so here's a shiny encounter shiny now make a sound when they spawn and sparkles So So yeah, um Let's go back and let's see that so okay Oh, so like shiny over there. Yep. You saw it saw it. It's made of noise Yep, and then you can see it's obviously a different color and there he is trying to catch it right away Yep, so cool that you can just like sneak up and just try to catch it without even fighting I love that. Yeah. No for sure and I love the whole throw animation. He caught it. He caught it Yeah, and you can speak to the pokemon That's just showing riding around which we you know, we've seen in prior footage, but never like this obviously different Costumes of the different hat he's wearing right the grass and everything I mean, yeah, it looks good At least I was yeah from what for sure from what's there. That's a little bit of shiny work there Yeah, um, here's typhlosion just kind of chilling cool Um, the sigibot in game.  There's a real size. Yeah. Um, no for sure. So what happens when you throw your pokemon in the water? What they spawn You can hit right there at a time Yeah, look at that Isn't that cool? So like you learn you can have more than one pokemon out of the time and these ones are like I'm look at them raths. Yeah, they're on like little platforms of some sort Like this one swims because it's a water type The flying ones will fly above and the ones that don't are on little platforms. That's that's so cool Yeah, that is that that's just like attention to detail. Yeah attention to detail Um, this is what I told eric about before you could drown in the game So you swim a little bit you swim a little bit and Now to be clear. Yeah I don't know that you're gonna be swimming much in this game. It looks like you can go a little bit Like maybe across a really small part, but I think that's to really encourage you ride your pokemon I don't think there's diving in this game guys. It's not breath of the wild I wonder if all like all like your water type pokemon can Carry you across instead of like, you know, you have to know surf you have to know It's probably specific pokemon. They can handle your weight maybe Like I like I don't think you like like the little seal that came out I don't think you can sit pop on the back of that little tiny thing and they can carry you ever know Um, I'd like to see a tiny polywag try to carry across. That'd be awesome Um, so in terms of the mechanical and changing how pokemon works Pokemon legend arceus is the biggest generational leap ever seen in the franchise according to central leaks And it's not even a new generation And then they go or is it? Asset Numbering for the new hisui and pokemon follow the pattern of a new generation That would mean this is actually the first generation nine game However patterns have been broken before we will have to wait until the home data mine Because we will have a clear answer then so what central leaks is actually suggesting is this might actually be the first gen nine game Like literally the first gen nine. Yeah That We'll see we'll see does that mean multiple. Yeah, there's usually multiple games for gen. All right, you should Again traditions are meant to be broken You know E All right, um Let's see here All the location interesting places, you know turn back cave Ramana ramana's island. Yeah Um, there's okay. So there's called linking cord a string excluding a mysterious energy That makes you feel a strange sense of connection It's loved by certain pokemon Probably a replacement for trade evils What does that remind us that look like oh, it's the old cable. What's with the hdmi cable? That's not an hdmi cable No, that's the old connection cable for game boys. Game boys. Yeah, those are the old game boy connection So this might have something to do with like being able to connect with other players or no It's it's one of those it's it says it right in there that um, you know somehow Some of the old pokemon you had to trade to evolve. Yeah, you can give them this Token and they evolved so it's kind of like a stone like a moonstone. Oh wonder we did learn about evolutions Um, they don't automatically evolve anymore You have to go into your thing when they when they reach that level and you just choose the evolve them or not So I know you could always stop the evolution of course, right? Yeah, huh? Um So all item icons A lot of items that is a lot of items I'm not even gonna bother to go through it, but there it is on screen. I wanted to show you guys that there's Do you know the badges? Is there any badges? Is there any gyms? Is that I wonder if there's any badges? I don't think that there's not gyms. This is this is this is before pokemon training was an illegal thing Right. There's no such thing as gyms then Um, again, we looked at that, uh, there's a new online mystery dungeon like feature where you can recover items lost by other players Interesting the lost and found if you black out in the field you may lose some of your items However, players from all over the world can find your lost items and send them to you via the internet This system is called a lost and found Or keep them so there must be a tingle bottle tingle bottles from from one way great Um You find a satchel that someone else's lost be sure to pick it up The satchel you retrieve will be returned to its owner and you can receive merit points as a reward Okay, so it's auto points can be exchanged for items at the trading post in jubilee village Pick up lost satchels whenever you find them and you may be able to get your hands on some very special items Nice. Okay. I like that interesting interesting It's a way to keep the world connected to your friends.  Well, yeah It rewards you it rewards you for being a good Samaritan. Yeah, yeah, right? Uh, you could change your pokemon moves at any time. This is massive. Yeah, right? We just look at this what move should be added. Yeah, right? Yeah, you don't lose moves anymore.  Yeah, they have changed the movesets for pokemon into equipable like Yeah, I think this is freaking sweet. What do you think? Oh, absolutely. This this is beyond this is what should have happened like 15 years ago This is revolutionary This fundamentally changes the way pokemon works because before you always say strata Oh, do I add this move and delete this move right and then you can never get that move back again Right and blah blah blah. Nope. There's no such thing as making a mistake. I don't have to lose growl I don't have to lose. I don't have to lose harden. Yeah, right metapods harden. I don't have to lose it. You're right like This is awesome That that is insane like this is maybe one of the largest changes in pokemon legends arceus history for those Listen to the audio version. Let me explain what happens here You could select your pokemon and your pokemon select screen and literally go what I say change moves Yep, there's an option There's an option to change moves and then there's a list on the left and then the moves you have currently equipped So you still can only equip four moves But every move the pokemon has is there on the left or these might just be the one general list of moves you have Because not all the moves look like they can be equipped by this pokemon or it may be the ones that they might learn Eventually, I have no idea. But yeah, I have no idea the point is you can swap them out and you don't lose them Right, you do not lose your moves. This is literally a fundamental change to the way pokemon works Yeah, no for sure This is the kind of change that makes me excited for pokemon legends arceus because Again, what are my things that I I really dislike about pokemon to this day when I'm not having fun with pokemon brilliant diamond right now tedious repetitive easy Little strategy now I get the elite force supposedly have strategy. I don't know we'll find out when I get there But okay, if I wait till the very end of the game for that Like it gets to the point that it's just frustrating to play You just want to get to the next thing and you're busy fighting these trainers that are half your level and it's just dumb It's just dumb.  They don't die, right, right? And you know what I noticed I have to go back to one of the battle ones. Do they have a limit use on the on the on their moves I'll do a batch. I still have the pp, but Yeah, okay.  I wonder if the uh, just aesthetic standard, uh pokemon hospital like Refills all of them. Yeah, you know the the pokemon or not pokemon pokemon tree bycraft That would suck if you'd have to like put the move into your list in order for it to Regen the pp or maybe it regents automatically once you remove it after like so many steps in the game or something. Um Again, uh nice quality of life change, uh move tutor is much simpler now and can learn multiple moves at the same time So let's let's check this out. Let's check this out. Holy cow Okay, hello Geez, that's because they're zipping through it. Hello there survey cars recruiting you need something for me God, that's so fast If you're if you're I want new moves. I want to master moves. I want to exchange items I've got a question master moves. Does that mean you can power up your moves So wait, watch right now. They selected roll it. Okay Yep, you learn false swipe aerial a is swift What move should it learn so you can go to this to learn moves for your pokemon Oh, so you pay to learn moves That is cash cash money Sure, I can help roll it learn this move Please tell me they show the the already learned already learned shows already learned Cool like that. That's pretty cool. I like that. I like that. Okay Um, the characters in the game reference all regions except for yunova kanto joto and hoenn alola and especially galar are all mentioned Interesting that since this game takes place before all of them Sort of we'll get into it in a moment. There's actually a story element at the very beginning of the game that Might make this a sequel in some regards even though it happens in the past. Yeah, um All right, so uh, wait what wait that point now you uh Bracelet is a warden bracelet. So that's a warden bracelet here. We'll just take a look at that Yeah, that's that's pretty cool warden bracelet. Yeah, um But spoiler.  Oh He lost his memories in his awarding Interesting. By the way, we're gonna be watching the opening Cutscene to this. Yeah, I can tell you right now time travel that exists with the main characters in the game and um Fair enough. Yes time travel folks time travel I let give me two seconds here. Um In that list of of you know, I want to learn to move but It said I want to master move I wonder if that allows you to like make a move stronger or that'd be awesome Or could be just be a whole different move set. Maybe I have no idea put to master a move Think it make it strong that I'm I'm that that that you're That intrigues my curiosity intrigued for sure. And that's the thing so far with everything we've read so far Intriguing oh it comes to mind intriguing. This is so different okay You can get a guaranteed shiny ponita an omission There's a mission you can do in the game Guarantees you a shiny ponita And that's what it looks like which I love the blue flames. So that's a win for me. Um noble arcane battle I'm just gonna hit you with a pokeball and get you right now Probably not gonna work Probably not gonna work on the initial throw there, but um, oh the person I've been waiting for Uh, my Hiyako wandered off to go play, but they haven't come back yet. Do you think they could help me find them? Hyakkyo, you mean volpix? Oh, I'm sorry back home in alola volpix was called Hyakkyo You see ancient alola All right. Uh gollar already existed back then hometown muffin a baked treat made from berries and other ingredients Which is often eaten in regions such as gollar is below the surprise number of pokemon uh, so new consumables So they got consumables in the game twice spice rat, uh, Not radish the swap snack the choice dumpling obviously so we got some consumables in the game Uh, pokemon legends has a new stat system Each stat has an effort level that can go from one to ten You can use these new items to raise this value The item required changes depending on the current value So grit dust grit gravel grit pebble grit rock so You can it looks like, um Maybe increase the uh Well, it's increased the stats of your pokemon clearly, right? Maybe you collect some stuff. Yeah, I don't know Uh feather ball a ball that flies fast and true ideal for catching nimble pokemon or pokemon that fly high New pokeball, baby, right interesting Uh adamant crystal when used on the agla or how is always butcher the that I butcher pokemon pronunciations in general Yeah, uh this large glowing gem wells with power and allows the pokemon to change form Lustrous glow when used on a pulchia this large glowing orb wells with power and allows the pokemon to change one I have a power Great great Yeah, um holy shit legend plate a stone tablet imbued with the essence of all creation What what when used on a certain pokemon it allows that pokemon to gain the power of every type there is Every type there is What every type oh that's insane What I got what So it's like one pokemon that this thing can be used on and it basically just becomes I am all powerful But does that also mean that it has every type every type weakness Every type strength Wow Spoiler here or does it just keep its uh full full list of all story missions We're we're not gonna quite go into every single. Well, you know what how bad is it? Oh, yeah, yeah, okay We're not gonna go through all that because it would just take too long But it's there if you guys want to go look at the full list of all the story missions. Um Let me see here. Uh, here's a full list of pokemon the staff list We don't worry about that right now. We'll enjoy that when we beat the game. Um, we'll see here But also thank you to them. Uh, shiguro. Oh mori is the director. Okay, so It's good to know not to be confused with shiguro. Me about to write Uh, the previous tweet was wrong. Please refer to this Sorry for the confusion Okay, I has to do with people behind the game Um new weather effects Strong sunlight the speed of grass type pokemon is boosting interesting. Okay fog All moves are less accurate, which makes sense apart from moves that are always sure to hit So always have a 100% yeah, yeah, yeah, okay Uh, even more new statues conditions probably going to be used for bosses Wild might all the pokemon stats are boosted the pokemon also take reduced damage from status conditions Move effects such as poisoning and splinters Terrific might the pokemon takes reduced damage from the status conditions So boss fight potential, uh stuff there Uh, right, uh new uh new status condition drowsy the pokemon is drowsy and may fail to act Okay, I mean so I mean that makes sense. Yeah, that's kind of like sleep. Um What what's the point? Uh obscure the pokemon is concealed in mud Or the like okay or the like or the like raising the chance that the pokemon will evade the opponents moves interesting Okay primed the pokemon has adopted the hard hitting stance increasing the damage of deals I'm primed nintendo primed. They did it. They did it. They put it. They put the center prime of the game They put my move in the game. Yep. There you go. Are you primed everybody? Yep. I'm pretty primed right now Um arcious battle theme where I'm not gonna listen to the music. Um See uh new statues condition frostbite at the end of each turn the pokemon is hurt by frostbite any damage of deals The special moves will also be reduced. Oh interesting Okay, um Noble pokemon battles sound really cool Okay Uh lunar blessing the user heals its own status conditions and restores its hp incoming moves also become more likely to mess that That's nice. Okay. Okay. We don't need to go over each one of these moves. They're there if you guys want to see them my lord um Some new moves in descriptions Uh 25 new moves introduced Okay, okay, bunch of new moves. Uh new items related to arceus. Now i'll go forms Lustrous there's two two two uh pokemon with lord forms lord forms. All right Interesting. Um, it's interesting how different this leak season has been every early leaks for brilliant diamond and shining pearl We're really really negative. Well for pla. It's been mostly very positive surprises Evolution Taking out got taken out Sad day are all these videos gonna be taken out too.  Yeah. Oh no, I mean Dude, it's funny man. The pokemon company is trying so hard Look at all this stuff. They've killed all this stuff has been killed man So apparently we can't see the opening cutscene. Yes, we can hold on. It's been hold on This is where my lovely friends on discord have been coming through for me My icons aren't working on my screen. So there it is. All right, so we actually have those who don't know We have a discord server. Hey um and on this discord server, we have a gaming leak channel and Lots and lots of leaks. We'll try to play some of the leaks from here. Um, so uh, he's so cute. Uh, let's see here Fighting one. Uh, this one is what? Lots of that's a battle. We've seen that one um There was uh An opening the drowning or the throwing the pokemon. No, that's this is the drowning This is throwing the pokemon in the water. Yep Uh, there was a link to a different place that had the opening cut there's the arcanine Oh my gosh, it's insane. There's the move swaps. There's that lost items. Yep all items Um Didn't watch this one Nobody's on youtube This is a japanese version. Yeah So, uh, what's going on here?  Oh, that's uh, that's an abrah Oh, it's a polka. Oh a berry. The berry is distracting it. Hold on distracting the abrah Does he catch it? Hey, got it Nice.  So yeah, right so some new sneak abilities and all that to capture pokemon Without fighting him. I like that. I like that. I like that. Okay. That's really cool That is cool. Here it is. Okay, pokemon ledges intro Okay, this one folks Wow major spoiler You guys uh in the audio version could just listen. Yeah, this is the opening intro What's happening? It's got a phone. Hey iPhone probably the polka dex What's happening? What's happening? What? Where's my phone going? Oh If it is a phone Could just be a dex But the dex looks like which probably wouldn't be in real life And look at him. He's like taking like a little baby Like the pokemon came to get him and boom Okay, that's the open that's actually opening.  Zelda Zelda Zelda Open your eyes or skyward sword Wake up.  Oh lord. Um, lord That one's been deleted anyways I was trying to find one that maybe went went a little beyond that little thing. What's this one? You're probably not gonna load No, could not be played. So yeah, some of the stuff's getting deleted. Um, here's this one some pokemon can undergo evolutions With change their appearance And stats that'd be cool to see if your pokemon has met the requirements Is the one one above it? Is that the? It's not gonna work. It's not gonna work for all damage Interesting Um Seek not all pokemon Uh And there should we find something something It's hard to read because they won't fully load because a lot of this is being deleted. Yeah There's that. Uh, we can take a look at the full the full dex. Uh, someone link the full dex Uh, really early really early in this chat someone link the full dex. So we'll get to that Um, are you alive my boy? Oh, that's gotta be beginning. Yep That's gotta be three starters. Yep. And then there's the professor. There's the professor Oh my I completely forgotten just caught up with these three runaway pokemon. Oh god. Yeah My name is I don't know Um, so I think this is the complete dex Oh, they blocked it. Oh, I didn't need to do that before Dang it. They blocked it.  This is a complete is this even pokemon? I mean that that that that legitimately could be people are asking them the rest of the wild like is this even as elder game Is this even pokemon like they still fight I suppose But is this even like this is so fundamentally different. Oh, yeah 100 So fundamentally different from what pokemon's always been Like Eric It's exciting Is this day one that's the real question is this day one for you probably It's gonna be it's definitely intriguing Because we've been excited about this from day one just because prospect of open world find out It's not fully open world open areas. Okay fine. Do you know blades the same way? Yeah, whatever.    Yeah, it's insane absolutely insane um so I I'm totally so i'm getting a day one I was always going to get a day one anyways because I want to give it a chance and this feels like the pokemon game That might actually make me enjoy pokemon again um I'm going to be very curious what the reception to this is because it is so fundamentally different But as central leaks noted response used to be like massively positive like is anyone even talking about the visuals anymore Because there's so much here. Yeah They're doing so much. I really hope it does not fall on its face Because they're doing so much. It's also the point that they're doing so much. I worry that they really bring it all together in the end I guess we'll find out But man, they've done so much. Yeah. No for sure. It's insane. I'm I'm thrilled and so far guys I talked about how I wasn't really sure what I wanted this game to be other than oh, I'm just really excited that it's open So far everything stated everything shown every gameplay clip Is basically exactly what I want You could argue. Oh, it could be a prettier looking game. Oh, look at this. Oh, look at that. You know what gameplay trumps all And I said this two podcasts ago gameplay trumps all And right now that gameplay My lord, yeah, no for sure This game had some love put into it. I hope it all comes together But this game had real love and passion but and I could tell you could tell just looking at it right now That there's a lot of creatives behind this game that this is the pokemon game of our dreams Yeah, and we're gonna try to make it reality Again, we don't know if it all comes together. It's going to be to each of them We're gonna have to play it come up formula that our own opinions.  It's gonna be the greatest pokemon game of all time guys.  Sitting on their thumb I mean granted they you can argue they didn't have a powerful enough platform to do exactly what they're doing here But still and true But I could be enough time existed on the 3ds. Come on now. I mean to a certain extent though We started we started on the game boy and all they they didn't really do a whole lot much different than the shit that was on the game boy, so Did did they really not have the powerful enough platform? Did they really not have a powerful enough platform? Um I well the thing is it's not like anyone prevented them from putting games on home consoles this whole time anyways Like oh, it's always a handheld. I'm like, yeah, but you can put it on home console No one's stopping you from putting games on a home console except yourself right So like that's the thing. I was like, oh, yeah, they didn't have powerful enough hardware But it's always been there is they just didn't use it for anything with spin-offs Um and you can argue this is the spin-off However, it has been stated by the pokemon company and game freak that this is a mainline game They have not said this gen 9 I had not said it said as part of the current generation that it's a sequel prequel to You know brilliant diamond shining pearl They haven't really confirmed what it is and where it takes place just that it is a mainline game They do not consider this to be a spin-off What's really interesting about that is just like the first mainline game. That's not Two now you can argue. Oh, but they released yellow on its own. Oh, they really I get it But that was still part of like The other games this game seems to be standing on its own because I'm sorry. There's no pokemon game like this And this completely looks like a stand on its own and there's not a second version. It's not like arceus and Don's in the game by the way guys for those that are are uh Diamond and pearl fans. I remember that don dawns in the game. So like there's there's just so much to think about And this is coming from people like guys, I know that we're not like the biggest pokemon fans in the world And if we were and we knew everything we might even freak out more about this stuff in there Because I like trying to wrap my mind around how big Of a change this fundamentally is is hard for me to do But just based on my time with brilliant diamond, this looks like an entirely different franchise and that excites me Since I don't really enjoy pokemon the way it currently is No, um, again most recent release of brilliant diamond shine pearl not a fan sword and shield most recent From what I played of it not really a fan But this is fundamentally different than all of it.  Yeah, but create your own trainer thing. Uh, someone mentioned that that would be cool I don't obviously I don't think that's part of it. I think I think there's obviously a pre-built There's a pre-built time travel storyline. So I don't think create your own characters a thing I think it's just gonna be a simple like male female like usual Maybe just like hair color or something or dress and well, who knows I mean, we don't know how deep how deep it goes. Obviously, we know you can change your clothes change your hats Like that's been in pokemon before so that's like it seemed in brilliant diamond for crying out like it said It's nothing new But obviously it's in a new perspective. Maybe even though. Yeah, we had open areas the open area the wild In a sword and shield. Yeah, but yeah I'm really really excited for this game and this has come from someone again who doesn't really know for sure that's I think that's the kicker I think breath of the wild And I'm going to keep going back to this appeal to people who weren't sell the fans And that's why it blew up And I think that's what happened here with legends arceus is it's appealing to people who aren't pokemon fans While still appealing to pokemon fans, which to me means this has the potential to be the best selling pokemon game of all time Is a single entry. Yeah, no Like do you think this thing could sell 20 million on its own is one entry? I think it's crossing 10 easy 10 easy 10 easy. Yeah, no for what it's looking like here for sure Is this animal crossing levels of popularity coming up here 30 mil maybe Uh, by the way, defox said he just leaked another video on On discord, so ready? Yeah, I don't have this got another one on discord. Well, I don't have this card That's right. Yeah, that's right. We've Closed it out closed it out something. Oh, this is still working. Sure. Why not? I have no idea what happened to discord Oh, there it is. It's never closed. Look never close it because we can go back and look here I'll scroll over to the bottom There used to be a jump to bottom up and something.  Look check out the uh Damage damage. Uh, they're on the outside. Yeah, look at that. He's obviously almost dead. He's gonna both.  Yeah, sure. Oh, come on. They don't actually die. Come on. I'm sure they don't actually die. Remember?  Yeah, like dude that was a Cool cool video. I liked it like yeah everything I see of this game and you can knock the visuals and I I get it But everything I'm seeing of this game from a gameplay perspective Is just yes. Yeah. No for sure. Absolutely.  Okay But like but that's what pokemon are for that's always what pokemon I've been for and and like You know, it's not like there's diving underwater in this game as far as we're aware Unless you do it, let's you do it with a pokemon. That'd be cool. Maybe you can do it with a pokemon. I have no idea Maybe you can merge spirits We already know you can fly we are hey you can fly which yes, you've been able to fly in prior pokemon games Like I'm sorry. This is like breath of the wild style and I'm loving it. Um, you can obviously ride prior game Not like this You've been able to obviously swim but again not like this It's like it's everything that we've been able to do but just in a new way and then bringing this fresh everything this is dare I say It's almost like they're rebooting pokemon Yeah Yeah, like if this blows up As a single game instead of their dual game duality Does this just become what pokemon is in the future and by the way They're still going to have the dual games for a little while here, of course because they already have plans and Yeah, they were clearly there's going to be gen nine. There's going to be other things, but it's just a whole like Experience. Yeah, no, I guess it's the way to put it. Absolutely. Um, we've got another little leak here another video drop The fox the fox told you man. The fox is mvp. He's all over it. He's all over it mvp Or they got away got away from buffering, of course, but What are your closing thoughts before this gameplay clip does? What are your closing thoughts here? This looks intense It's insane. I'm Yeah, more likely going to get this day one I'm probably going to go find my switch at home and probably look and see if it's on the e shop I'm pre-order pre-order pre-order pre-load. Yep pre-load. Yeah, by the way, I think the file size is six gigs That's bigger than mari odyssey Yeah, just throwing that out. Come on mode. Yeah, I don't you know They're already getting like nerfed maybe Yeah, I don't know why it's no Ah, it's just it's just having an issue. So apparently it could have got new Apparently what happened in that one is that the uh, pokemon makes the trainer fall asleep and attacks them Okay, that's insane like the fact that the pokemon just like They hate trainers.   Well, not all some of them are friendly, but Like they're actually attacking you. Yeah, I I I just saying there's nothing I don't like about this Besides you can argue again. You can argue about the visuals all you want The gameplay is so great All I can think of is like, okay when the sequel comes Yeah, no, it's it's only going up from here. I hope Hope this isn't the peak and it's going down, right? I hope but this also means the pokemon company's willing to not let it just completely abandon this after the one game That would suck All right. No, no, we gotta go back to our old system, but we'll bring some of the gameplay elements back from this one No, I want this one At least right now I could get into it and absolutely hate it but it this looks freaking awesome All right, so before we close this out I want to remind everyone you obviously watch our podcast wherever podcast heard spotify, etc We're going to get this audio version up literally tomorrow This podcast will also be up on our video channel or our podcast channel tomorrow It's obviously going to stay up on our main channel till I get it on the other channel Uh, so obviously go subscribe to that channel go go follow our podcast and wherever you iTunes Google play whatever the heck you want to listen to it potify, etc Um, one thing I want to note by the way guys and this is just kind of in a mini announcement because I saw it in my email um I'm going back and forth. 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Yeah, it happens. Eric carry the show next five minutes Right, I mean you can you're gonna you're gonna carry in the show When you just gotta react to the chat because then you're just reading questions. Oh, yeah Um, all right. Well, you guys are awesome. Thank you. Uh, so much for 209 it's been a lovely episode 35 my my age. Um, you know Since uh 35 35. Oh, yeah, well and uh, well a couple super chats and I haven't cracked this yet This is usually a 20 dollar boy, uh one, but you know what we are going to have one For the fan here Cheers to all you guys. We're not gonna double Thought about it, but I don't know how much I really want to feel it right now Yeah So cheers to all you guys cheers to the pokemon leaks, I suppose. Yeah, um one thing. I I got one other thing I want to mention about leaks Finish this quick. Oh baby Got a gold shogger So someone mentioned to me on twitter Who is now a journalist If I ever feel the duality Of being someone who covers video game news and Wanting to be a gamer where you might not want to deal with leaks because bottom line is Because we cover so many leaks and rumors and all that that's just part of the industry That ultimately you end up following accounts like central leaks and you're going to end up seeing leaks for games Even if you don't want to Um and now I have successfully avoided uh spoilers for some games before but usually that is not nintendo games that i'm not covering So it's really easy to just all right. Let me mute this One like twitter account that only posts like sony leaks like okay That's cool. I can not deal with that because it doesn't really have anything to do with what I do on the daily great um And they asked me that question about that duality Do I ever feel it like because we're here here spoiling the game Literally showed a brief moment the entire story text Like We're here spoiling the game And i'm sitting here thinking And I said this on on twitter today I don't really Know that I feel the duality so I've been covering video games since I was 12 23 years Yeah, it was a zelda fansite, but once you start covering zelda rumors you get into the whole mix of all the other rumors um You know i'm on the gaming and leaks rumor subreddit every single day The thing is I've been covering leaks and rumors for so long that to me This is just part of new games coming out I don't I I don't like people go. I don't want to be spoiled. I'm like that's that's how good work for me Nowadays everything's pretty well. The thing is it's been well. It's been 23 years for me So like 23 years of basically spoiling every game that's ever existed to me. This just becomes the norm That's what i'm used to this right this is this is my norm all these leaks you see here that we talked about today This is my normal daily life honestly though these leaks And whatnot Better job of selling me the game then Pokemon themselves i'll say that the pokemon company and Nintendo did a good job hiding a lot of really big features Yes But I also think if they were to tease some of these bigger features It really would have actually helped like especially when okay crap came out because By the way, they knew the game was gonna leak all of the all nintendo switch games leak pretty much all games Leak in general so they knew this was gonna happen They're not dumb and I know that are trying to combat it and take out videos and screenshots Bottom line is it's out there. It's dumped. It is what it is. But I look at this in another light Where after The reaction especially that forbes article That blasted pokemon legends archaeus and said there's absolutely zero excuse for this game to look this bad What did that been great if the exact response the very next day Would have been a minute and a half trailer job showing off some of the major features of the game They would have made everybody forget about the visuals Literally they could have showed off some of these major features and nobody would even give a shit anymore Just like they don't right now Yeah, I don't hear a single person talking about visuals anymore because the gameplay elements are so fundamentally amazing that Nobody cares now I'm not saying nobody I know but a majority of people that are interested in the game don't care. This is what I'm trying to say. So like Wouldn't that have been great They held this back because they obviously wanted to surprise players and that's cool and I get that There is something about that first experience and being surprised and I get that Sort of because it's been 23 years since I've really been surprised because I don't I just know everything. It's just it's just the way it goes in the field Um, and so when they asked me what that duality I said, I don't know because that's the way it's always been but I always got to think in the back of my mind Just because that's been the way it's been for me for 23 years Doesn't mean everyone watching me following me on twitter, etc. It's been that way So like it's really hard for me to subconsciously go.    I'm like how yeah But here's the problem for me It's so hard for me to dissociate because like this is not posting leaks and rumors What is something I could put in a title versus what is considered a spoil? I've been told your titles are spoiled. I don't know what a spoil any story or gameplay or right I'm what am I spoiling? I don't care. It's spoiled that weapon for me. It's like oh, I'm okay Sure did that ruin the game for you? I'm sorry like It's so hard in the culture. I am in to like try to figure out what bothers people and what doesn't because You know, you can always say, you know always go on the safe side label everything spoiler But then like you'll label something a spoiler and you'll talk about it and people will be like Oh, that's not a spoiler. We already knew that Like we that that that we we saw a hint of that in the background of the trailer somewhere And it's like That's the part that's hard for me is is the dissociation of Because this is my norm Like I think a fundamental question that has come up over the years and that's have spoilers ruined games for me The answer is fuck no I wouldn't still be here if it did spoilers have never once ruined a game for me Like if spoilers ruin a game for me It means the game wasn't very fun in the first place And I just thankfully got a warning and didn't have to waste my money That's the way I view it Because a great game is going to be great no matter what like you can say oh, but like Breath of the Wild You're right.  I'm gonna love experience in it even if I already know what happens Like everything About the way my mind has formulated over 23 years of this is just this is just part of gaming part of gaming culture And I embrace it And it's hard because I try to recognize a lot of not people watching this podcast because you guys obviously saw the Title and I assume you know what you're getting into but right Like for you as somebody who doesn't like you come on the podcast And basically let's I tell you news you just don't even hear about every now and then you'll you'll you'll send me something that you saw But you don't follow all the leak channels. You don't do you haven't done this for 23 years so like How okay, am I gonna ask you how you think I do because you don't watch all my content or best friends So like there's obviously a little bias in there. Maybe um I think it's more fair to ask the audience how you guys think I do with spoilers and leaks and all that Um because you guys are the ones watching my content every day and you guys you guys are the ones most affected I would presume and I might try to be mean but Eric is my best friend just like I I would probably be biased towards anything towards him.    Um, but Like from your perspective like how do you feel about this stuff because like you we've never really deep dove on a podcast about spoilers like this Not these not this that's at this level No, no for sure like we've talked about a few things like oh this leaked about zelda or this or this rumor Right, but rumors are not the same thing as leaks. This is legitimate. So we could see it with our own eyes. This is real so How do you feel about that whole duality from my my situation and then from your perspective as just a gamer um You know stuff like games that i'm on the fence kind of like this stuff this game for sure it's I liked it because it Either it's gonna help sell me it Or it's gonna tell you to turn me off.  Yeah, absolutely those ones You know If I can avoid them I think I'm gonna try to But you know if I happen to get spoiled with I mean, it's I'm already excited for the game. It's probably gonna just drive my excitement even more Unless it absolutely turns or I remember spoiling I remember spoiling the opera thing for you. Yeah in the original mario less rabbits And you're like wait what yeah, and I'm like Yeah, yeah, don't even know and I don't I don't even think I was mad.  No, I'm like, no, just yeah, yeah, if you guys haven't played that mario plus rabbits Let me tell you that that halloween area. Oh, yeah, it's one of my favorite areas. That is a great boss. Yes, but uh No, it As long as it doesn't I hate spoilers when they Disappoint That's the shitty part. Well, I hear so if the spoilers disappoint though, isn't that a good thing because then It makes you double you think you want it makes you rethink getting it and two what you might be like Well, they don't want you. You're right. They don't want you to like as an example One game that I know we didn't spoil for ourselves Was golf story. Yeah Not golf story. Sorry mario golf mario golf. Oh, right. Yes. Yes. Yes.  Um because golf stories are what I wish He was anyways, absolutely. So like we heard about we bought into the hype We bought into the ads the commercials all the positivity Didn't really have a lot of spoilers for that game to be clear. I don't know if it leaked I'm not really sure what happened, but I personally didn't get spoiled and so if I didn't get spoiled There probably wasn't a ton of spoilers Plus the smart golf so like people are really Looking for spoilers. Yeah so my thing is If we have been spoiled on that game, it just would have saved me 60 bucks I would have actually liked to be spoiled on that game and realized how disappointing that multiple single player was Absolutely. Yeah, I agree and you could argue while they said that in reviews I don't read reviews before I play games. Yeah Now you might go but reviews help you make purchasing decisions A lot of reviews aren't dropping now to like the day before the day of and because of that It doesn't affect my purchasing decision because I'm not going to take the time out of my day to read 17 000 reviews When I've got work I've got kids. I've got gaming to do.  I don't have time. I don't have time to watch review videos I don't think I've read or watched a review in a long time I think the only thing I do and I think this is where some of the value of metacritic comes in is I go to metacritic And sometimes I look at the general Consensus rating and you might go that's a really bad way to let you're lacking the context and I always tell you guys context Oh matters And it does And in the case of mario golf context mattered And the context was the single player is not what I wanted it to be 100% So it's like do I regret buying that game? Yeah, that's 60 bucks. I wish I had back. No for sure. It's part of a If it's a game that i'm really hyped for and it ruins it it ruins it But what would ruin it like like a lot of people consider spoilers like the biggest spoiler thing to be No, like we could talk about oh you could swap abilities and poke on arceus legends or legends arceus is like Whoa, that's a really like people don't really think that's a spoiler.  No for sure They a lot of people are like it's the story and we didn't get too much of the story to be clear No, the entire story is leaked.  I've just been doing this for so long like Something like I knew the end of breath of the wild before breath of the wild came out I just And I think part of this is Why do we play games? I love story by the way story is a big driving factor to a new game Especially if you don't enjoy the gameplay as much story can really drive you forward So I'm not dismissing the story but the number one and I don't know if this is an endo thing I like to think it's not Gameplay matters more to me than anything Why do I love Age of Empires 4 so much now because it's it's probably not the greatest Age of Empires ever played I don't know.  I'm having a grand old time I don't care if the maybe the single player is not as good.  It's like breath of the wild.  Yeah, oh great.  There's all this stuff with legends archie It's like even as I read the story tonight It's not gonna want to make me play the the game any less because everything gameplay wise is screaming to me must play And I'm really hoping when I stream this either next thursday night probably more likely friday night Um because depends on when it comes out. I know sometimes it's out like 10 p.m The night before midnight digitally it all all really depends, you know Um, and I don't gotta see if my game stuff's doing a local midnight launch That's also something to consider because if they are then we might have to stream midnight Like midnight until I have to get up with my kids So don't sleep stay up all night get my kids out of school then sleep and come back and and stream again Right, um, but we'll we'll do that with breath of the wild. So we'll see what happens. Um But I look at this as I mean, honestly the smart move by the way guys is to get the game ready to go Get my kids off like go to sleep get my kids out to school and then stream all day friday That's obviously the best thing to do and then just take a small break and then when my kids get home Get them organized And continue to stream my kids pop on stream. They pop on stream. It's pokemon. I'm not worried Pokemon I didn't read an m No, I'm not I'm not too worried if they pop on stream. I know youtube has the thing with kids They tend to leave it alone when it happens accidentally on a stream unless they're like naked or something My kids won't be naked. So I gotta worry about that. Uh, not at that time. Anyways, so I look at this as The gameplay excites me so much that I just don't care and and Because gameplay is at the bottom of the core of why I play games like why do I enjoy Splatoon so much? It's got a really cool story, but that's not why I play the game Um the tingle games like yeah really really interesting backstory for tingle Very I'm very interested in the laura zelda, right? I've been zelda theorizing for my entire life Basically at this point I've been zelda theorizing for a hell of a long time timeline theories, which now we don't necessarily have to have as much anymore Because a high roll of storia and everything sense. Um Although there's still some theories. We have some theories. Obviously we'll breath in the lath for a while Uh, you know theories about different events and all that like I'm into all that story stuff But fundamentally I don't play zelda for that. I play zelda for the gameplay play mario for the gameplay I play even you know things like the last of us or the gameplay even though the last of us is very story driven It's that gameplay it kind of hooks me in back for blood We can complain about the lack of couch co-op like this, but you know what it's just fun to play Oh for sure like that's like the gameplay is fun like There are all these elements that might not be great around it, but the ultimate the gameplay is good It's fine and that's what's weird about mario golf though the gameplay is great The problem is that I bought it primarily for the single player and the single player is basically a tutorial Yeah, kind of And I didn't like that because I wanted it to be something else. I wanted it to be the game mario golf tournaments against cpu Rising up the ranks Leveling up and you do level up, but you don't rise up the ranks by actually playing people in golf game matches and like it's It's dumb and then when you get to the final rank You don't even have that showdown with mario that you've been hoping for this whole time to be in that final elite group And try to win like it doesn't happen It's kind of a disappointing.    You're done Congrats. You made it to the top Ranking list, but you're not number one.  You don't even get to do that in a single player. So it's like It was disappointing and even though the gameplay was amazing It let me down But then on the flip side, I don't regret mario tennis But I think the reason I didn't regret mario tennis even though I did complain about the single player I didn't buy it for the single player I think because they didn't promise it was going to be an rpg mode or anything So my expectations for the single player were much lower Uh, but the tournament stuff that we played at e3. They said was going to be the online multiplayer And I love that And that was there at the launch that wasn't there for mario. There was no online ranking system. No tournaments. No nothing Um, you just played people online and didn't they didn't really matter, right? Uh, so I don't so like that kind of you have that combined with the single player being disappointing. I regret the purchase I don't regret it with mario tennis aces. So gameplay can sometimes be trumped by the modes and the way that it goes But very rarely, right It's so It's so rare gameplay is like pretty much the top of the thing that matters to me the gameplay for legends arceus Like people might bitch. Maybe maybe it has frame dips.  I had to steady those fights to frame perfection And I loved every minute of it despite the lag despite the low frame rate despite my character jumping and the bosses jumping Everyone else jumping around and like I enjoyed every moment of it Bad frame rate doesn't ruin games to me it can But as long as the gameplay is fun and the gameplay was amazing to me back then and those 40 man reindeers For sure. So like it was amazing to me. That's what I mean from just watching. So like That's the thing gameplay is king. So even it can have frame dips. It can have resolution It's amazing. I can kind of forgive it. So hopefully you guys agree. I have no idea. Eric. What do you think? Yeah, no, I think you summed it up pretty well. I Yeah, gameplay is definitely king. Whoo gameplay is king. I like a relative relatively Stable frame rate. I mean if it is four frames a second if it's stable Sure consistently four Here's the thing guys. I have a $2,500 monitor that can go 240 hertz at 1440p at 49 inches wide like okay I clearly love high frame rate gaming.   It was just so fun anyways So great. Um, and that's all I care about guys like contrary to Konami's belief system that playing games for quote air quote fun Is not what a majority of gamers want. We want nfts Oh god, we don't actually want to play games for fun That's not the the future of video games isn't fun contrary to popular belief Fun trumps everything else. I'll play an nft game if it's fun No, I don't think they'll be fun, but then it all depends.  That's something like if it is the way that they keep describing it That doesn't sound fun to me, right? So That's the thing. I think we I mean nintendo fans in general probably But I think everyone does like why do I play mad?  Maybe a lot of this because like sports games are intricately tied to sports It's like you're really a sports fan, but still I don't know All right guys, well, that's good to do it. Thank you so much. You can follow me on twitter at ninty prime Obviously follow our youtube channel nintendo prime our podcast channel nintendo prime podcast Um our podcast channel if you can't find it by typing it in youtube youtube. It's cool I don't know. I think youtube's actually finally, but even if you can't I think it's finally doing it You can't you can go on our main youtube channel and it's literally like right below the upload list is Featured. Yeah We're almost at 2000 subscribers on there. So that's that's that's pretty exciting. That's let's go, baby Remember folks next giveaway coming up. We're giving away three copies of pokemon legends right now But next giveaway Pretty excited about that one. I love I love giving away system Yeah, they're so fun. I can tell you right now the giveaway won't be on the live stream I know we've done live stream giveaways for systems in the past.  Yeah Do Gotta catch them all