with a speed of light, a cloud of dust, and a hearty high old silver, the Lone Ranger. With his faithful Indian companion, Tonto, the mast rather the planes led the fight for law and order in the western United States. His strength and courage were always on the side of right against might. No man could match his daring and resourcefulness, and nowhere in the pages of history can one find a greater champion of justice. Return with us now to those thrilling days when the West was young and the Lone Ranger was fighting the greatest battle of his entire career. Remember that Graham, a wealthy rancher living in the district centering upon the town of Spanish flats, had vowed to destroy the outlaw band that had terrorized the countryside for almost a year. Already one of the chiefs of the criminal organization had met his death. And on an evening several days later, Graham stood in the doorway of his home, staring into the darkness. I'd have sworn I heard something out here. And what's that? Just a shadow, I guess. But just the same, a dog. That's what I heard. Arizona! Is that you, Arizona? Arizona! Hello, old boy. Where's your master? Where's Arizona? Here, Wolf. What's the matter with you? What is it, boy? Want me to follow you? Wanna show me something? Go on, Wolf. Go on. Wolf, what have you found? That's you, Graham. Arizona! George, I didn't mean to play out like this. Man, what's the matter with you? Arizona, what's happened? Before I talked. Could you mind give me a hand, help me up? Why, of course. Thanks. Now, how's that help me to the house where I can sit? I'm just plain tuckered out. Never thought I'd make it. Hold on to me. Sure. Your horse? I had to turn him loose. Had to come on in the foot. Let my saddle hit out in the hills. You mean that you had... Their horse was even worse off than me. But what? No, wait. You get inside first. Make it up the steps all right? Uh-huh. Man, take it easy. Wolf, you stay outside. There we are. This chair here. God, it feels good to be a rest of it. Anything I can get you? Food or water? I could stand a drink if you didn't mind. I certainly. Here you are. Oh, thanks. Golly, that's good. I'd have better be off with this now, I guess. You like talking now, Arizona? Graham, it was awful. You look as if it had a bad time of it. I found Tonto's trail three times and lost it four. Yes? That's my own fault. Should have fixed a place to meet him. Should have known he'd be too slick to leave a trail anybody could follow. Then you don't know whether the Lone Ranger's living or dead? Nope. Don't know a thing. You think they reached the caves? Don't know even that. Maybe the masked man didn't even live to get there. Murdering skunks. They've done for the finest fellow the West ever seen. If he is gone, Graham. Gunner paid for it, of course. That don't even a score? No, it doesn't. You think gunner is really to blame, you know, Graham? It's the polecat that's hiding behind gunner. And all their mother crooks like him. I know that. It's the skunk that gives them their orders. I've thought about that, Arizona. What do you mean? I've got an idea. The only way we'll ever be able to learn who he is and bring him to justice is to first destroy his organization. Uh-huh. If he genuinely outlaws, he rules. Take away his power, then he'll be defenseless.  Whether the mask man's living or dead, you can bank on me to do what I can. I reckon that's what the mask man had wanted me to do. Be, well, kind of like carrying on his work. You really mean that, don't you? You can just bet I do. Then I've already planned our next step. You have? When you've rested, when you're ready to ride again, we're striking at one of the most vicious outlaws in the entire outfit. Who's that? The man who's led the gang that carried out these holdups. Rob stages, banks, homes. The man who's been responsible for a score of brutal killings. Who? Turk Rigby. Well, several miles west of the town of Spanish Platts, two riders approached the buildings of the wealthy Jingle Bob Mines. Inside the office, Jerry Collins, boss of the smelter, was hard at work on his day's report and was unaware of his danger. The two outlaws reigned in their mouths. Who? Who? Pull that! Pull that! Pull that! Come on, Turk. The boy sees who we are. I'm with you, Stubborn. What? Stop keeping cover. Right. Turk, Rigby. I want him here for Collins. Get out. You're telling us when the mine figures to send out his next ship and the gold. So you and your gunhands can steal it? Tark. You can go to Tundas. Tark. I said you go to Tark. Oh! Oh, coyote.  Get back up on your feet. You can't do that. That's the way to handle them when they get Stubborn, Turk. Let them have it. Are you going to talk? Oh. When's that gold being sent? Turk! Where else? Skunk. I wouldn't tell you nothing if you'd come here with your honking. Watch out. He's got the gun. Bug him. I'll show you where. Take it. I got him. Collins, you're lucky Stub didn't shoot to kill. My arm. Get a bandage on it and you'll be all right. I got some over here. Now you're down. Not till you come across with that information we want. You skunk. You're just starting up trouble for yourself, mister. Turk, I know what you can do to me if you want. But just the same. I ain't talking. Stub, what are we going to do with this army? He found him.  The boss said you was to find out when that gold was being sent. Sure, but wait.  When he gives an order, he aims to see it followed. You hear that, Collins? I heard. Be the spot I'm in, don't you? Right there.  Yeah, you watch out. Now talk. Don't pull that trigger. Collins, it's so close to going off right this second, you're almost the same as knocking at them pearly gates. You shoot me down without giving me a chance? I got orders. That boss of yours. Who is he? Why don't he show himself? Why don't he come here, help me open and do his own dirty work? I have nothing. What do you got? I'm going to count, Collins. When I get the five, if you ain't talked yet, you never will. Wait. Two. No, don't, Turk. You can't shoot me down. No, please. Three. No, no, don't, you don't. Four. Stop. Change your mind.  Let me live? Will you, Turk? Will you? Why, sure, Collins. Sure. We don't mean you no harm. Nothing personal, anyhow. Just a kind of business proposition. The gold. The gold. Yeah. It goes out. Three days from now. Well, now, Philly. Why couldn't you say that right open saved yourself all this trouble? I didn't. Only the driver. Huh? They figured if they sent guards along, it would tip you off. They sent them the gold in and the freighter. Like it was just a ploy. I get it. Trying to be slick, huh? Well, that's enough, Turk. Put a rope on this, gently let it get going. Yeah. Put your hands, fella. You don't have to tie me up. Well, that's to keep you from trying to make a break for it on the way to the hills. On the way to the hills? You heard him. Come on. You're taking me along? Get up and do like you're told. But you promised me. Said you wouldn't do nothing.  They're going to take me out and kill me. That's what you're going to do. You're going to get rid of me. You can't do that.  No, no, no. You can't. Excuse me. Collins. Dead men, don't talk. It was the following day that Arizona Lawson stood in the patio of a little border mission in conversation with a lone ranger's old friend, the Padre. Padre, I reckon there's no use in my telling you how I feel. You thought this as much of that mass gen as I did. He was a fine man, my son. I thought, well, I thought, see? Oh, regular sounds kind of funny coming from a no-count fellow like me, Padre. But before I go out about some business I got left to do, I don't know, maybe I could kind of move you into the chapel there and sort of talk to the masked man. Sandy, what do I mean? Of course, amigo. You think you'll hear me? See, Arizona? I think he will. I'll be out again in just a minute or so. I will be waiting, my son. Well, maybe you could feel better about how things turned out. If you knew how I mean to do the best I know how, then finish what you started. Of course, I know, and you know, nothing I can do will amount to shucks compared to what you just done. Look, you had me going west. But I'm going to try, no danger. Honest, no danger. I'm going to try the best I know how. I don't know what else to tell you. I looked everywhere, searched all through the hills, all up and down the rears, almost got killed hunting. Where you been? I don't have plenty work to do. I want you to tell me what matter. The masked man. Did you? Did he? Oh, tunnel, you know what I mean. He may bring good news. Tonto, he don't mean the masked man. Him live. The curtain falls on the first act of our Lone Ranger story. Before the next exciting scene, please permit us to pause for just a few moments. He came to tell the Padre that in spite of his fears, the masked man was still alive. He learned that Tonto had already told him the news and... Yes, my son. We have much to be thankful for this day. Just wait till I spread the word. Just wait till I let folks know the Lone Ranger is going to fight on their side to give me his crooks. Hey, won't that set things a home or no? Wait, amigo. I can hardly... You will not tell him. Huh? Arizona, Tonto has explained that it is the wish of the Lone Ranger that we speak of this to no one. I don't say that. He's sick. Yeah, I know, but why does he want it? Why? I shall ride secretly to the cave where Tonto has hidden him. And shall there do what little I can to nurse him back to health. Yeah? But I fear that if his enemies should discover us, I would be but poor protection for him while he is unable to defend himself. Crasher, I didn't think of that. It seems so funny. The masked man laying there two weeks to fight. Gosh, it's just one of them things it's hard to imagine. See, he has always been the man of action. Rad and silver like the wind. See, they're in any kind of odds.  It will be many days before the Lone Ranger will ride again. Yeah. Him help though. Help? Again them crooks and that fella at their head? How in thunder can he? When it is safe, Tonto will come to him for advice. Do not fear my son, though the masked man cannot be with you in person. You shall have the benefit of his counsel.  And when you find him. See? You tell him to get well as fast as he can. But not to worry. Tonto and me will handle things. We'll light a blaze under them crooks if they won't put out. As they rode away from the mission, Arizona explained to Tonto the plan he and Graham Hoke would bring Turk Rigby to justice. You see, Tonto, Graham's put a heap of thought into how to clean up these outlaws around Spanish clats. Uh huh. Guess you recollect what he said about how they're organized. There's about a half dozen different gangs. One goes in for smuggling, one for holdups, one for wrestling and so on. That's right. And they're all bossed by this one fellow we can't locate. Not even the heads of his own gangs knows who he is. He's got a fella takes in their orders. Oh, me savvy. Now this hombre called Turk is one of the worst of the lot. It's his gang, holds up stages, robs banks and such.  Turk ain't the kind of a gent who can replace real easy. Oh, get him. Ever hear of the Jingle Bob Mines? Uh huh. They're the west of Spanish clats. Got a right big workings. Take out thousands of dollars in gold every month and melt it down themselves. And they send it to San Francisco. Oh. Well in the past year, they've had around a half dozen of them shipments held up and stole. All is by Turk. Oh, me hear of that. Thought you might have. Of course they've done what they could to keep Turk from learning when gold was going to be shipped. But somehow he most always finds out. Uh huh. When that happens, well it's just another fifteen or twenty thousand dollars gone into the pockets of them crooks. That's plenty cash. Two doggone much for comfort. But just the same, Graham figured out a way to use them hold up to trap Turk with. How old is that? After tomorrow, they're sending the gold out in a freighter. That freighter will be loaded with boxes and such. Like as if it weren't carrying nothing but supplies. Oh. There will be no guards along. But that don't mean Turk's going to be fooled. Fact is we're hoping he ain't. Why is that? We want him to raid the wagons. Me not savvy. Because we're going to be inside one of them big boxes the wagon will carry. Oh. And just when them crooks figure they're having everything their own way, we'll let them have it. Uh huh. That keep good idea. That ain't bad at that. Is it? I helped Graham figure. What's that? Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.


Hei. Oh wow, this is some room. Right. I'd like to start off by thanking the conference organisers for scheduling me to speak in this room. It's such a wonderful opportunity and it's such a beautiful venue. And it's great to see some friends in the audience as well. Thank you very much for taking the time to come and listen to me today. And thank you all for taking the time to come and listen to this. I will make my slides available after this on my blog. I'll put up the link again at the end and also a short and transcript of what I'm saying today. And there's the recording so it'll be available in different format should you want it. I'm here today to talk about scaffolding online education. I am going to talk quite a bit about my institution, its values, the students that we have. Because that's core to the conversation that I want to have about what may need to change with the way we think about scaffolding at the moment to support students from many different backgrounds and with many different responsibilities. And then I'm going to look at a bit of work in progress that we're doing at my institution in transforming our educational provision and thinking about how we can support and scaffold our students better to be part of an online learning community. OK, so I lead the learning design work at the University College of Estate Management. The institution was set up in 1919. It's our centenary year. We're having lots of celebrations around that. And it was set up to provide free technical education to the sons of men who died, were wounded or impoverished by the Great War. By the time it got to the 1940s, the institution was offering a lot of correspondence courses, including to the military prisoners of war and the women's land army. And in the late 1960s, we became associated with the University of Reading. We built this gorgeous building on Reading's campus. Sorry, I didn't mention this before. Building was our original location in London, but that was bombed during the Second World War. And Reading provided the validation for our degrees. In 2013, we received our own award-bearing powers, so we could award our own degrees. And in 2016, we moved to our new building in the centre of Reading. And this is a lovely sketch done by one of our architectural technologists. We provide 13 programmes of study which cover areas related to the built environment, so that would be real estate, building surveying, quantity surveying, architectural technology. Very vocational degrees, and quite often the endpoint is accreditation through a professional body, so the Chartered Institute of Surveys and so on. One of the core values that we have is sustainability. And I want to mention this, because I think it does provide a nice character for the institution I work at. And it explains why I'm so proud to work at that institution. Stainability is a theme that runs throughout all our programmes of study, and it's in the way that we live and we work in our environment. Our building, I think, was classed as the most sustainable building in higher education in the UK. Our carpets are made from recycled fishing nets. We have solar panels on the roof, we send zero waste to landfill, and we keep bees, which is particularly lovely. Sustainability is a challenge that our students will face when they enter industry, along with other challenges such as housing supply. These are really tricky problems that we have to prepare them for. Housing supply, there are not enough houses, and the houses that are around are too expensive for many people to buy. Health and wellbeing is another important aspect of the built environment. We need to design buildings and we need to design places so that they're good places for people to live and work. We need to think about air quality. We need to think about how we get food to people. We need to think about green space and preserving biodiversity. Health and wellbeing is also particularly important within the construction industry and the built environment industry at an operational level. Mental health illness has been called the silent epidemic of the construction industry. Men who work in the construction industry are three times more likely to commit suicide than the average man in the UK. It's now one of the greatest proportion of illnesses we find in that industry. Against sustainability, we have depleting resources in our planet. We need to think about the materials that we build our buildings with. For example, if we build 200,000 homes a year out of timber, that absorbs about 3.8 billion tonnes of CO2 out of the atmosphere. There's a lot of issues that our students will need to be facing and think about in terms of urban growth and population growth. In terms of our students, who are they? We only one time teach around 4,000 students. They come from 100 different countries. 20% of our students are on apprenticeship degree programmes. Only about 3% are full-time. The rest are part-time students. With the exception of our apprentice students, we are fully online university. Apprentices have to come and do some workshops, but other than that, all our education is virtual. 90% of our students are over 21 years of age. The average age is 31, so we very much cater for the mature students. 30% of our students are female. 20% have a declared disability. We have 25% of students from BAME. I should mention there that 10% are Chinese and we do have offices in Hong Kong, so the remaining 50% is below what we would be striving for. These figures very much represent the industry. Our students come to us from industry. Our relationship at recruitment is with employers, rather than the student and the parent. There's a problem there in industry that needs to be addressed. There's some great work being done by some of our trustees and some of the professional bodies we're working with to enhance that. Our students have a number of tricky problems that they face in their everyday lives. They have a number of commitments. They may have caring responsibilities. They are often in full-time work. They have to juggle work commitments around what they do. The construction industry is very stressful. It's a higher and far culture. I have highlighted the dysfunctional and sustainable and stressful aspects of the industry that these people are working in. I wonder how many of our students have one of these in their house. I know I certainly have one of these angels in my house. I'm harking back to Virginia Woolf here. She wrote an essay called Killing the Angel in the House. The angel for Virginia Woolf was someone who was always present and telling you, don't do something for your own gains. Don't work on yourself. You have to look after your children. You have to look after your house. You have to put everything else ahead of you because you need to be a good, meek person. Virginia Woolf, she didn't want that. She wants to be a professional writer.  I had to give my angel a decent amount of concussion to come here this week because ALT is always held on the first week of term that the schools go back in the UK. I've been sending my kids into their new school year, but I had to stand up to my angel and say, actually, this is one thing this year I want to do. This is something our students are facing every day. Full-time employment, caring responsibilities, mature students. They always have someone sat on their shoulder telling them they should be doing something else instead. It has been proposed that scaffolding is a very good way to help students move through their studies and their online environment and to support them to stay within that environment. Now, when I talk about scaffolding in my place of work, people don't think about students and they don't think about education. I think about this type of scaffolding that goes up the side of buildings. But the definition is just as relevant to education as it is to the industry in which I work. Scaffolds are a temporary form of access used to create a safe working platform at height. They have to be the right type of scaffolding for the building. So it has to be the right type of scaffolding for the student. It follows a series of controls. We need to keep checking that scaffolding is appropriate. We need to assess the risks and issue clear instructions to people who are working on scaffolding. It is the responsibility of a team to erect scaffolding. And we can also use ladders when required. So it's not just the structure. We'll move ladders around the scaffolding so we can get up to different levels. In terms of scaffolding online education a meta-analysis found that there were four main types of scaffolding used. Conceptual, this is where we scaffold students and explain to them what they have to choose, what it is they want to learn, what's important to them, what are the important concepts. Procedural, this is very much about getting students familiar with the right tools and resources to be able to achieve the learning. Strategic, which is about scaffolding our students to find alternative ways to solve complex problems. And metacognitive, which is supporting students to reflect on what they have learned. These types of scaffolding, they're all great. They're great for learning activities. And if designed well, they will work really well. But I believe that our students face more problems than actually getting to grips with their learning objectives and how to achieve certain skills and competencies and knowledge. Oh, that's kind of gone off the screen a bit. The top quote is that actually online learners we have much higher rates of attrition for online learners still than we do for face-to-face learners. Despite all the scaffolding and all the research and I know it's early days yet but that level is still very high. And there's other research that shows that whilst online provision gives more access to education and something we do at UCM, there's multiple entry points, students can study as few or as many modules at a time as they wish, we provide incredibly flexible educational moving barriers. But once those learners are enrolled in that space they find that they can actually be more disadvantaged and that achievement gets widened and this could be down to having to have an awful lot of self-management and tackling those other responsibilities in their life. At UCM for about past year or so we have been working hard to transform our educational provision. We're a fully online university that basically took correspondence courses and put them in a digital space. Very reading heavy, not too much interaction, unclear reasons why students were undertaking the assessments they were taking. We've implemented a new learning design model which very much focused on students because we teach students, not content and we call this student outcome-led design. It's nothing new, it's backwards design, we start with the learning objectives and then the assessments and we design all the learning activities to ensure they are relevant to meet those. We've been thinking a lot about how we can be more present for our students online and offering a lot more opportunities for synchronous and asynchronous discussions. So going back to some of the things that Jesse said and Sue said yesterday, it's about being able to have reactivity in the online space. It's not too structured, being able to have a conversation and exchange and learn from each other and understand each other. We're also employing a lot more pedagogies in our teaching. So largely they're participatory and active pedagogies but we need them to be authentic, they need to be aligned to the workplace, they need to be situated so we can ask students to go off and do something in the real world in the physical world, their workplace and bring it back to their online place and do things in the online place and take those into the physical world. We're introducing a lot more problem-solving activities and all these together create a student experience. But again, these lend themselves to the types of scaffolding I just mentioned and what we want to look at is how we put a framework around our educational model and help students support each other in an online space, work with their tutors as well, become part of a community and create a place, create a virtual campus almost because the thing about online education and our online education you can't create an individual scaffolding for each student because it's got to work at scale and some of our modules we have 600 students enrolled we can't spend a significant amount of time with each of those students. So how do we create an environment and an opportunity for students to support each other with help from us whenever they need it and they feel they can ask for that help as well. So our scaffolding is called care and it stands for kindness, awareness, reflective and engaged. Now in my abstracts I think awareness was accessible and engaged, was ethical and this has all changed over the past six months it's still care but we wanted to pull the things out that weren't present in our educational model and put those into the scaffolding and shifted slightly and I apologise that it's slightly different in the abstract. If you want to know more about accessibility I can talk to the ends of the earth about that and W3C standards and universal design for learning and all that but that's a completely different talk. Okay, so it's clear we need to provide scaffolding that provides support for the person not necessarily for the learning for them to be a person in the online environment our scaffolding models kindness to students we start from place of trust we trust that they're going to engage we trust them that they want to be there and we try and develop a sense that they can trust us as well of being open and showing our own vulnerabilities to them. To create cohesion we support students to develop awareness now if we think of awareness as in three spheres that kind of fit inside each other the first innermost sphere is really about creating that self-awareness of your own basic needs as a learner and a person in the world without this awareness we can't manage our feelings the way we work our reactions and we can't practice kindness to ourselves which is really important when you're in an environment that is maybe not as human as one you are used to. The second sphere is awareness about those people in our immediate context about those people in our immediate context and that could be our students and our tutors ac facilitators it enables us to support each other and when we link that back to our self-awareness we call that empathy and the third sphere is awareness of the world around us and the people we may not have contacts with everyday and it can include issues as well like caring for our planet, caring for our urban environment our built environment becoming more aware of the impact that our actions may have on a larger context. We are students to reflect on this at regular points throughout their studies and this awareness of each other and the industry they're working in will help them to communicate more with each other and become part of a community and finally engaged we want to encourage students to discuss this and we're implementing some quite innovative ways for our students to engage in our online provision going forwards including virtual studio pedagogy which I know Matt's been talking about I went to an interesting event a few weeks ago on that and we're looking at new ways that our students can collaborate can feedback, can feed up and can act on feedback there's all kinds of stuff happening in that engagement area so I'm just going to give you one example because it's all well and good saying about this framework but I struggle to understand frameworks unless I can actually see them in practice and when I write my blog I'll put a few more examples up there as well so you can kind of see some of the stuff we're doing Down the side here we have the steps of an online learning task it's for our module digital technologies and this is one of the very first tasks called technology and you we begin by asking our students just a brainstorm together everyday technologies that they will use they then move on to do a record of their technology day so over 24 hours they have to record how they engage with and interact with technology what they use, where they encounter it they can use whatever tools they want to do this and we give guidance and support around using things like Instagram or Twitter because of all the privacy issues but we want to make it as accessible as possible they can do it as a word doc but the most important thing is that they will share it with each other at the end of their technology day they'll choose another couple more students' diaries and look at those they look at what's the same, what's different they become aware of how they encounter technology and those students may be in different countries so that could be quite interesting we then ask them to watch a video which provides a model on how how we can think about how we engage with technology and then they ask to create their own digital engagement map and share that and then that all feeds into a online seminar which is more of a workshop where we look at the maps and we explore them in detail so the care in that comes from helping students get started making it about them, making them look at themselves the awareness is self-awareness the awareness is becoming aware of their peers and they're examining, when they reflect they examine why some things are different and some things are the same and there's an opportunity to discuss and apply it to the wider context and this task feeds into future tasks privacy and data security and all kinds of things so it's a good starting point for that and these are some of the other areas that we're looking at where we can implement our care scaffolding online seminars, not webinars we're encouraging activities whereby students collaboratively annotate course syllabi and assessment briefs so they really engage with that from the very start and they understand why it's relevant many more integrated projects and team assignments introducing e-portfolios and tools where they can reflect and they can engage and they can learn about one another so just to finish scaffolding is a temporary structure but scaffolding can actually remain in place for years it may be there for a few weeks and I would say that's the type of scaffolding that we use for online learning activities but we need a more permanent structure to support our online students become part of a community to feel that they're part of a place that can support them and where they can grow as a person it needs to remain in place until our work is done as educators and they leave us to enter the built environment and that connected networked environment thank you very much for one question if there is none in the audience perhaps there was questions in VBOX we can have one Kate may your pick if you have any questions if I could have a copy of these I can answer them in my blog that's probably better do you find there are significant differences in digital literary skills amongst your students and how do you address these that would be really good to know we need to understand that all our students are virtual apart from the apprentices who come into our workshop and we are starting a body of work at the moment with JISC to try and assess what those students digital literacy skills are I said we have a wide cohort and I hate the term natives and immigrants and I'm not going to use it but it's, yeah, there's a wide variety of skills but I think the skills that we also need to be very mindful of aren't so much on how to use a computer they are very much about things like data security, privacy how to be a community online and what the opportunities and the negative aspects of that are but as I said we're working with JISC going forward to do an assessment of our students but also related to that it's really important to look at how our staff digital literacy is as well because our staffs we're very we're an institution where learning designers work on a par with academic staff and that's one of the reasons why I love it there we bring the educational knowledge the staff bring the subject knowledge but many of them come from industry as well may not have any teaching experience or digital teaching experience when they join us so there's a whole heap of literacies that we need to address and that something about transforming our educational provision means that we it's giving us a launch pad to do some of that so thank you very much thank you and Edina's work with learning technologists helps to develop skilled and literate students who can change our world for the better teachers and students can develop and share coding skills with 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This is covering the spread part of the fan dual podcast network Pretty fun week eight coming up on tap where it may not be the most thrilling games But still some fun story lines of tracks and fun players We get to see in fun situations and that could lead to some good prop betting We're now JJ Zacharyson of late round calm on to break down his favorite props for week number eight over at fandals sports Book this is covering the spread right here on the fan dual podcast network and number fire calm My name is Jim Sonnis I am a senior writer and analyst for number fire calm join you once again by JJ Zacharyson Find him on Twitter at late round QV check out late round calm for all his work and also the late round fantasy football podcast JJ we are on to week eight. How you doing today? I'm good I I'm still hoping that Thursday night football will be abolished at some point in our future But I don't think that's gonna happen. It's just been bad football on Thursday nights, and it's uh, it's just been It's been tough to watch. Yeah, I agree given that I had the buck's money line So I'm not really opposed to this this edict by any means also I have the Bengals money line before the Jamar Chase news So we're off to just a roaring it was a great four-hour stretch to go from the Jamar Chase news to the bucks losing in Disappointing fashion even with Mark Andersen or shot Bateman not playing was that game? Yeah It feels like every time I publish rankings each week There's a huge news item that breaks literally 15 minutes after I get everything done And that was the Jamar Chase news this week and it's not even like you can just like okay Take out Jamar Chase you have to like alter every single player on the Bengals to account for it, which is just a true delight I am happy. I don't have that job. I don't deal with weekly rankings for sure We'll dive into week eight with JJ get his thoughts on some process this week in situations to monitor But first a reminder to make sure you are subscribed to covering the spread our week eight NFL money line Spreads and totals podcast is up with Ryan Williams breaking down our favorite bets for this week Outside of the Bucks Hopefully they go better than those and also our college football week 9 podcast with Ed Feng and also Austin Swain It's one by from number fire to talk with us about college football Get those up on the the covering the spread podcast feed and on the Fandall YouTube page The week 8 NFL Sunday million for daily fantasy is officially live on Fandall Showcase your NFL knowledge and construct your best nine-player roster while staying under the salary cap then follow along Using Fandall's live scoring feature to compete for your share of one point four million dollars in cash prizes including a $250,000 to first place all for just a five dollar entry fee with superstars like Cooper Cup Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley all scheduled to take the field on this Sunday There is no shortage of big names for you to build your lineups around NFL season is approaching It's already here. Anyway, the NFL week number eight is approaching quickly So head to Fandall commets admit your lineups today and let's ability restrictions apply go to Fandall comm or download the Fandall app For more details and I'll stick in here to week number 8 JJ And I think one of the storylines that we can take and kind of make more broad is Sam Elinger Becoming the starting quarterback here for the Colts and you know, that's whatever it is It's a one-week thing is it's his first career star But I think the broader point is rushing quarterbacks because Elinger is far more mobile than that ride You've done research in the past on the impact that has on fantasy football and what that does But obviously a lot of that research can translate to betting props too So what did you learn there and how do you think that applies to betting props in a situation like this? Yeah, look, I think it's kind of obvious But I don't think people think about it enough if that makes sense But you know mobile quarterbacks are generally bad for both their running backs and their past catchers now I should say with the running back thing Running backs are typically a little bit more efficient when they have these mobile quarterbacks Which makes total sense because defenses have to be you know, they're they're kept honest Based on the threat of the quarterback And so, you know, we've seen you know crazy yards per carry averages for instance at a Baltimore since Lamar Jackson took over That's a perfect example You've even seen it, you know the efficiency on the ground with like a team like Atlanta or Chicago Even though, you know, those quarterbacks aren't that great through the air They haven't been that efficient through the air You can still see good efficiency on the ground because of that threat The issue with running backs from the standpoint of fantasy football and how that might affect even prop bets is that those types of Quarterbacks generally don't check down as much but it's sort of this compounding effect where you know Teams only have a certain number of plays that they're gonna run in a single game, right? Like just generally speaking and so if those plays if some of those plays if a chunk of those plays are going to quarterback rushes Then that means the other personnel on that team are no longer seeing those plays That's really what this comes down to and so what that means is, you know receivers and pass catchers They also don't benefit as much from these mobile quarterbacks You know pocket passers are better for wide receivers for instance from a yardage standpoint, etc Because you know these these quarterbacks are those those pocket quarterbacks are standing back in the pocket These mobile quarterbacks are taking off and using one of those plays for themselves essentially The other thing to keep in mind too is touchdown equity, you know closer to the end zone running backs won't get as many as much love close to the end zone as They would with with a more pocket passer. So that's something to keep in mind as well the one thing I will say with ellinger with ellinger and and the the Colts offense is that you know I do think this is a little bit different of a situation because the replacement The player that he's replacing wasn't pushing the ball down the field at all He had like a 7% 15 plus air yard rate, which was the lowest in the league And so you know part of the reason they're making the shift is because they want more explosive plays And so I do think it's more of a moot point from the standpoint of like yardage and looking at that because you're hoping that You know ellinger will push it down the field more than Matt Ryan did so, you know most cases And I still think that generally speaking like this is probably a lot worse for a guy like Jonathan Taylor Who's coming off his highest target share of his career and having you know one of the highest target totals of his career You know that that's that's a big deal going to a a mobile quarterback who might not check down as much But someone like Michael Pittman who's not seeing deep balls to begin with it probably doesn't matter that much because what if he Start seeing these deep balls now that Matt Ryan, you know is no longer under center But that's generally the gist of it is that these mobile quarterbacks They take away plays in the in their teams offense for themselves And that can hurt the rest of the the personnel in that that offense and the check down element You mentioned is important here too because when we saw Ellinger in the preseason he had a 9.4 yard a dot He was throwing the ball downfield is cross like 24 or 26 throws and not a huge sample But that would impact the check downs for JT impact the check downs for not he minds but then also potentially Wind up being a washer guys like Pittman because I might get more downfield work But less volume overall so maybe like a catch prop it could be downgraded there But the yard is prop may wind up being a wash other thing That's important entering week number eight is I feel like there are a lot of really super rush heavy offenses this year like we got Atlanta you mentioned you mentioned Chicago as well the Jets have kind of been this way recently too and They're almost outliers least the the Falcons and the Bears are in terms of how run heavy They are relatively seen here recently and when you're making projections you take it from a top-down approach Do you expect some sort of regression towards like a quote-unquote normal approach with those teams or Is a sample of six or seven games now big enough where we can say they're gonna be an outlier going forward as well I think some teams there's expected regression You know I would even consider the Jets to some degree Some expected regression because you can see how these teams are performing in more neutral game scripts And yeah, you know, they are a more run heavy team But nothing nothing Jim is like Atlanta and Chicago like I've never seen this in my decade of analyzing this stuff as my job We just have we haven't seen this We have samples of both the Bears and the Falcons When trailing this year by trailing by a lot of points 10 plus points just to give you some context Atlanta has run 111 plays this year while trailing by ten or more points and on those plays if you're looking at pass rate from the Perspective of past attempts divided by total pass and rush attempts instead of drop-backs So you're just looking at a total attempts here They have a 45 percent pass rate while trailing Ten or more points which is absolutely insane the crazier part is the Bears while trailing by ten or more points They've run 54 plays their pass rate is 38 percent Wow only the Falcons Bears and Eagles have a total pass rate under 45 percent this season from an overall perspective So basically what's going on here is that the Bears and the Falcons are still the most run heavy teams in football When they've been trailing by ten or more points this season, which I mean moving forward you just have to expect That's the case. I think for Atlanta in particular last week was really sort of like this litmus test for us to see right Okay, they're likely gonna trail against Cincinnati. They're on the road They're facing an offense has been throwing the ball a lot and they have all these weapons And you know Atlanta's secondary has been suspect and what did we see we saw this negative game script immediately in that game And then what do we see we saw a run heavy script from Atlanta? I mean, it's just it's one of those things where they clearly don't trust Marcus Mariota You know We're seeing that the Bears at least open it up a little bit more And so I'm looking at those kinds of trends because offenses do evolve as the season goes on I mean, you know, Chicago was a lot more conservative to start the year now They're opening things up a little bit more of Justin Fields and they're realizing too that when you drop back to pass that also Opens things up for fields to scramble. He's had more scrambles to not just design runs You know over the last month or so and so, you know, that's good from Chicago standpoint But overall, I mean both of these teams are very very run heavy and at this point even when you factor in game script You have to assume that they're still going to be run heavy And you know Atlanta in particular is really interesting because they have a really easy schedule You know from here on out, especially in the short term and you know, even this week They're they're decent favorites against Carolina So we should expect them to just run run run because that's what they've been doing Yeah, and I think that if they show you what they want to do you should believe them and the question is you know Will sportsbooks react enough to account for the fact they are projected to continue being an outlier You know, you have to judge that for yourself, you know open up the props for those teams see what you see and you know Kind of bank on them still being what they've been because it's been a long enough sample now to know This is exactly what they want to do and as long as they can they're gonna keep on doing it Yeah, and the other thing too is I know that it's frustrating if you play fantasy football Or if you like Drake London or Kyle Pitts, but entering that game last week in Cincinnati Atlanta's offense had not been that bad Especially when you consider the personnel that they have just from like a expected points added standpoint per play Etc. Etc. There's a lot of people screaming. Oh Arthur Smith's got to go But they're sitting in a pretty decent position Division and they're not gonna change things up a game up on second place if they win on Sunday Exactly exactly like they're like this is not a situation where they're a one-win team and they're not competitive I mean, they've been competitive this year by running this offense And so even if it's because of this, I mean, we know how coaches think in the NFL We know how front offices think they don't necessarily understand correlation and causality And so if this continues to work and it has been working way better than people want to admit I mean, yeah, it's been a decent enough offense So I just don't see why they would just switch things up all of a sudden If you just look like early down like EPA per play Atlanta's like They're top five right now once you're just for schedule like they've been efficient It might not have been like the way you'd want it to go But they've been efficient. They're laid down success rate is also pretty good. Like they're not a bad offense It's the defense being an outlier like just doggy do like that's the reason they're losing football games The defense is not the rush heavy approach and that's why we should expect that to continue going forward as well Yep. So projecting like 15 past tense for Mariota at most this week as four-point favorites against Carolina Now let's take it as situations you are targeting forward this week again If you haven't listened to the show before just kind of running through with situations Maybe fluid right now where you may think even the props may be not posted yet You may find some value once they are up. Which situations are you keying in on for week eight? I think there's three backfields that are interesting. I mean usually these these situations are backfield related You can look at the Jets first I mean breeze hall obviously out for the earth at torn ACL James Robinson just got there, but he's had some knee soreness and and it sounds like they're gonna take it slow regardless Robert Sala said so I'm expecting to see Michael Carter as the main back in that backfield But don't sleep on a guy like Ty Johnson because you know clearly the Jets don't see Michael Carter as a bell cow every down back Otherwise, they wouldn't have gone and traded for James Robinson in the first place if they did see that So I do think Michael Carter is the one a in that offense But I would Assume that this week we're gonna see more Ty Johnson than we typically will once James Robinson is fully You know into this offense and ready to go. So that's one backfield another one Dallas doesn't sound good for Zeke at this point The last time that he missed a game because he just plays all the time even if he's injured But the last time that he missed a game the same coaching staff in 2020 Tony they gave Tony Pollard a 75% running back rush share. He had a 28% target share in that game It was the best game of his career against the 49ers in that contest and fantasy managers might remember that he was the RB one Overall that we can PPR formats. So I do think that that even though Tony Pollard isn't built like a bell cow You know, they might not give him like 20 plus carries But you know, he's gonna be on the field a lot when he's on the field a lot He's gonna see a higher target share as a result of that So that's something to to keep an eye on in that backfield and then the last one is the Denver one I think this Mike Boone going on IR thing is sort of slipping under the radar I don't think enough people are really like factoring that in because you know last week He didn't play a full snap share because he got it hurt But in week six, he played just eight fewer snaps in Latavius Murray That was that game where Melvin Gordon didn't play a whole lot. They're facing the chargers They went to overtime all that stuff, but Mike Boone also ran 12 routes in that game He's he had been running as a passcatcher for that offense. So I'm very intrigued by both Latavius Murray and Melvin Gordon I think Gordon's probably gonna take on a lot more receiving work So that's at least something to keep an eye on here against Jacksonville It's like a bad cop because it's gonna say like oh this team is like this team But it is reminiscent in a way of the 2017 Saints where you had Alvin Camara in the backfield. He was look no, it wasn't the TV Mark Ingram in Asia Peterson as the other two guys and like yeah, it's a frustrating situation But you move one piece from a three-headed backfield. That's a pretty major change So I think that that is important, especially with Boone getting all the the late-down work in that offense That actually does change things quite a bit So I'd agree Melvin Gordon most likely to be the past catching guy as a result of that change and it is In a situation like that it is actually very important when one guy is taken out of that fold Okay, let's turn our attention over to yardage props. What are you seeing on the board entering week number eight in that regard? Yeah, so I got three bets for you the first one David Montgomery's line across books right now is seven and a half receiving yards I'm gonna hit the over there, you know, obviously, you know over the last couple of games He's only seen one target, but he's still run a decent number of routes in that offense He played more third downs in Colil Herbert last week and in games where both guys have played this year Montgomery's played about 60% of their third down snaps So he's been on the field on third down which is good to see He still ran more routes in Colil Herbert last week despite only seeing despite not seeing a target He's now hit the over of the seven and a half receiving yards and four of five full games played this season You know the last week was the first time that that he didn't reach it You could see a negative game script against Dallas that should force more passing But I should know there is one thing I want to say here and this is why I think the line is where it's at Dallas obviously a good front and they've been really good against limiting running back targets this season They're actually third best or worse. However, you want to look at it In adjusted target share allowed to the running back position, but I do still think I mean This is a one reception type situation for David Montgomery if he's able to catch the ball once He should be able to hit the over there Another one this is going back to a player I talked about last week and fortunately got the W with it But it's Robert Tanya, you know last week he got that that garbage last reception and he got like 21 yards on it But he was still under that half a yard half mark and once again across books He's at 32 and a half yards and I like the under once again The bills have been very very good against tight ends this year They rank as the eighth toughest opponent and adjusted target share allowed to the position the tight ends that have hit this number Against the bills Zach Gentry was one of them because the Steelers dropped back 52 times 352 passes against Buffalo the other two or Tyler Higbee and Travis Kelsey both of whom had double-digit targets against the bills I don't know if we're gonna see that You know for Robert Tanya and obviously Gentry was able to hit that mark because they threw a lot So that was a very much a volume type play Tanya is at the over on this three times this season. So, you know, he's been there for sure But I really think that That this matchup Dictates them number one not being able to throw the ball very well General and this offense just not moving the ball very well similar to what we saw last week But I just don't think that it's a great matchup overall So I'm gonna hit the under with Robert Tanya in at 32 and a half yards and then the last one Again, you can get this line in a lot of spots But AJ Brown his line is at 66 and a half receiving yards and I like the over for AJ Brown You know despite being a bad football team the Steelers have actually faced a pretty average pass rate against this season So I'm not really that that concerned about Philly just going with this like insane insane Run scripts Offensively, you know, the Steelers have a below average pass defense in terms of success rate allowed AJ Brown has seen at least 21% of Philadelphia's targets in every single game this year So that's a floor form so far this year is a 21% target share 54% of wide receivers this season that have had a 21% target share if hit the over with this mark if hit that 66 and a half number and That's his low. That's his minimum. Oh and by the way, it's AJ Brown, you know, we're not We're talking about one of the best wide receivers in the game. Who's one of the most efficient per target historically So I really like the over at 66 and a half I think you could probably bet that up to like 70 yards or so And that's simply excited with the target shares include some of the like the Falcons teams and the Barrett teams we discuss like it's not adjusting and like the Eagles are run heavy when they're ahead, but That you know, they're not that bad. They're not that run heavy right by any means I think that that one definitely makes a lot of sense there for AJ Brown other thing too with that is They've had some pretty Conservative approaches recently with a low eight on approach but part of that might have been weather Jordan My Lada missed a game in a half Lane Johnson this half a game now both my Lada and Johnson are healthy That could allow them to potentially open things back up I'm not sure if I really want to bank on that be probably don't need to for AJ Brown at 66 and a half for sure Let's shift our attention now to the touchdown props four week number eight We're seeing value at Fandall sportsbook in the touchdown market. Yeah So the last time I talked about this guy, he scored a touchdown It was one of the few, you know touchdown props that have really got my way this year on this on this show at least But I do like Cortland Sutton over on Fandall. He's plus 220 as an any time touchdown scorer He's what he's still one of the biggest touchdown regression candidates in the league right now He has one touchdown this year, but he has over 450 receiving yards and he's tied for first in the NFL and end zone targets He's had about a 25% target share in this Denver offense. Russell Wilson's back We know that he's favored Cortland Sutton within this offense Jacksonville has the 11th worst success rate against quarterbacks this year So I think it's a decent enough spot where this juice makes sense to to go after Sutton at plus 220 So I like Cortland Sutton over on Fandall plus 220 and then Justin Fields I'm gonna hit the under 0.5 passing touchdowns for Justin Fields. You're getting some juice there It's at plus 145 over on DK fields is playing better But this matchup on paper is just absolutely brutal for the Chicago Bears. They've struggled up front as we know You know, they're not great at protecting the quarterback Dallas has the best pressure rate in the NFL I mean, they can get to the quarterback the Cowboys have allowed less than one passing touchdown per game this year So they're at least getting close to that half a touchdown mark fields himself has hit the under in three of seven games this season You know Chicago's been the most run heavy team in football Even in negative game scripts as I talked about they're implied total is just 16 and a half points So I think that that is very very possible that that Justin Fields is under here I would I would look at this more as like a 50-50 Type scenario for fields as opposed to what the odds that you're getting right now are a lot more favorable than that Yeah, plus 145 as you mentioned the under for Justin Fields at point five passing touchdowns And the key is there is passing touchdowns. He can run for one and it doesn't matter and like they have Herbert They've got Montgomery like there are a lot of paths to unders here like they could just not score as well So there are paths to unders there going back to Sutton Do the Russ high knees in the in the plane Factor into your projections for a Coralins on any time touchdown. Yeah, look everything Russ factors into my projections including that including his Horrific play on the field this season. You know, it's it's all of that Jim And I am I am look look put it placing a bet on anything Denver offense is frightening But I do think that that plus 220 number is pretty attractive So if he scores a touchdown you've got extra cash to burn because you have the plus 220 Will you pledge right now on air to eat a danger which if Cortland Sutton scores an anytime touchdown on Sunday? Never never. Okay. I might do that for you. I might I might hold up your the subway guy I'm not the subway. We don't talk about that in public. You know, it's we keep that under wraps Especially with the rust rust things, you know, sometimes I gotta keep my cancelable Cancellable takes to myself and I think that's getting pretty dang close Maybe I'll get a danger which on air if we hit the sudden prop for a second time already through week number eight That is JJ Zacharyson checking out on Twitter at late round QB You can find his work at late round common also on the late round fantasy football podcast JJ Delight to have you on as always happy Halloween to you and good luck to you in week eight any plans for you For Halloween dress up this year. Yeah, of course Always my family and I are dressing up as in Kanto characters So I will be Bruno and there will be pictures of it on Twitter on Twitter I'm sure okay at late round QB to get the Bruno pictures JJ have fun and we will talk to you again next week Thanks, Jim. Alrighty. Do not forget to check out our other podcasts from this week our NFL week eight breakdown and Our college football week nine preview both up on the covering the spread podcast feed and over on the fan duel youtube page I am on twitter at jim sonnis j i m s a n n e s You can also follow the fan duel podcast network at fan duel podcast big Thank you to everyone for tuning in throughout this week. Good luck with your bets We'll talk to you once again Monday to get you set for Monday night football This has been covering the spread right here on the fan duel podcast network


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