Assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh, welcome to Ahkam SOS, the show that discusses Islamic duties and practices by his Eminence, the Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Sadik Sharadzee Hafizullah. I'm your host, Mohsin Shah, and joining me is Sheikh Ali Ma'a, Assalamu alaikum Sheikh Rahman. Assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi. Sheikh Rahman, this new discussion we've got today on today's episode is something that really appeals to a lot of people and I know to yourself because you do a lot of travelling and I do a little bit of a fair deal of travelling myself. So we know that when it comes to prayer is there's a different prayer for travellers. So my first question is what actually applies that makes you a traveller? What's the attribute of the quality that makes you a traveller? The traveller or the misafer and the salat of the misafer is defined as the one who intends to stay in one location less than 10 days. So let's say I want to go to Ziyarat Madina Munawwara and I want just to stay there for one week and come back or to Karbala or to Najaf or Mashhad or Qom and just stay five days. That is the definition of the Salat of Musafer in which he must start praying Qasr to shorten his Salat and that applies only because some people ask me about the Maghrib, can we do Qasr for the Maghrib? The Qasr and shortening the Salat is only applied to Zohr, Asr and Aisha' prayers which are for the even prayers, not the old ones. So we would pray Salat of Zohr and Asr and Aisha' and instead of four, two, exactly like the Salat of Subh but with the intention of Zohr, Qasr and Asr, Qasr and Aisha' Qasr. That's how we pray and that's how the Salat of Musafer is known to be. And of course it is mandatory for the traveling person who travels to make sure that to meet the condition of the Qasr to know the criteria, to know what will make him to pray Qasr. That's important. So to know these conditions I think that would make it easy for the traveling person to be able to make the decision that do I pray Qasr or in full? Sheikhullah, is there any area or place where a traveler doesn't have to pray Qasr Salat? I mean one is obviously if you're staying longer than 10 days then you do not qualify to pray Qasr Salat. But is there any places where if a traveler visits this place he has to perform his full Salat or he has the option to perform full Salat? The Sayyid mentions four places, four holy sites in which if you were to go there and stay less than 10 days as a traveler the exception there you can choose to pray in full although you're a traveler you're in a state of Musafer. But you're allowed to pray full in those locations but of course you're not allowed to fast. You break your fast but you pray full because the exception is for the Salat only not for the fasting.  Those places are the city of Makkah, the Madina Al-Munawwara and Kufa and the shrine of Imam Hussain Salamullah Aleykkar Bala. So these four holy sites you are allowed to choose to pray Qasr to shorten your Salat or you can choose to pray full and complete Salat. When you say these four places are we restricted to the actual building the mosque or the Haram or does it include the surrounding areas as well? If I'm in the hotel which is opposite the shrine of Aba Abdel Al-Hussain can I pray full Salat in that hotel or is it only in the shrine? The Sayyid mentions clearly that the grand mosques of the holy cities of Makkah so inside the mosque of Makkah and you know how big the mosque of Masjid Al-Haram is and the Madina as well Mashallah it's big and you have Kufa inside of the Kufa itself and the shrine of Imam Hussain Salamullah Aleykkar Bala which you will know how big is that shrine as well. So yes inside the shrine anywhere you choose you can start praying in full although you came there for just two three days for Ziyara and you want to go back. Shaykhna what is the criteria of the traveling Salah as in what are the restrictions and what qualifies me to pray Qasr Salah? Before the one decides to be as a Musaafir and to choose to pray Qasr he must make sure that he meets these eight criteria in which allows him to become a traveler and to perform the Salah in Qasr and to shorten the Salah. I start with the first one. The first one is that the designated distance to be traveled so the first thing you have to make sure that before you choose to start praying Qasr is that the distance both ways outbound and inbound as a return journey should be at least 44 kilometers that is the least amount in which will allow you to be able to perform the Salah otherwise if you go let's say 10 kilometers you go out of the city and then 10 kilometers to come back so in total it's only 20 kilometers the return journey then you cannot pray Qasr so the return journey should be 44 kilometers so let's say 22 to go out and 22 to come back then you're allowed to pray Qasr and to break your fast as well. We have to make sure that we calculate from the outskirt of the city that we live in which when we go out we don't see the walls of the houses of the last houses and the walls of that city so with today's constructions for example we have the boundary of some of the major cities is the circle of the city the highway for example when you leave that highway then you left the city itself for London here we have the M25 for example yes so if you leave M25 you calculate from there your journey back you know whatever is the distance and if it's more than 44 kilometers both ways then you start to break your fast and pray Qasr otherwise you have to keep praying in full and you have to keep your your Salah as well and you're fasting as well. Ahsan Shaykh, Shaykh Na'a what does one do whether he doubts how far he has traveled he's not sure whether he's broken the limit which requires the person to pray Qasr or not so in that situation I don't know if my Salah is Qasr or not what should I do if that individual traveled less than 44 kilometers of the journey and both ways of course and or there's a doubt that did he pass this limit and if he's not sure if he has to perform the Salah in full or Qasr in this case he must not shorten his Salah in other words he must pray in full until he becomes certain that he has met the conditions of Qasr Salah then you can pray Qasr otherwise if there are doubts you have to wait you have to ask research and check if there are no answers to the distance how much you've made of the journey then you pray in full and then you switch to the shortening of the Salah Qasr when you are certain that yes now I have met the condition of the distance then you can start the Salah Qasr as well. Shaykh what happens if there's two routes to a destination one route is more than 44 kilometers there and back and the other one is shorter which rule applies here if there are two routes towards a destination in which they differ in terms of the distance in this case if you choose to go the far distance route which is 44 kilometers or exceeding that distance in this case when you arrive there you pray Qasr or Ishratun Yusala however if you choose the closer way in which is less than 44 kilometers both ways in this case you have to pray in full because you haven't passed that limited and the minimum distance in which makes you as a traveler so let's say you just traveled 35 kilometers both ways you cannot pray there as Qasr but you chose another way another route in which it will make it 50 kilometers for example both ways in this case you can pray Qasr that's fine. Mashallah. Shaykh you discussed with us the first criteria which was you have to travel a minimum of 44 kilometers there and back and it's from the outskirts of your city whether it is a road or the city wall where you cannot no longer see the final house what is the next criteria the second criteria that is the intention to travel the designated distance in other words you have to make the intention from the first place that I'm going to travel 44 kilometers or more so you can attain the condition of being as a Musafer and traveler so you can pray Qasr otherwise if you don't make the intention you might go just for 10 kilometers and come back so you have to make sure that you plan and make the intention that I'm going to travel 44 kilometers both ways or more and then you can break your fast on your way or pray Qasr and so forth that's important condition that must be met from the first place you plan it well you make the intention and that's it you start breaking your fast and shooting the Salah. When does one actually break his fast or start shortening his Salah I mean I've planned to go to from London to Birmingham which is like 120 miles away so do I can I start to pray my Qasr Salah as soon as I leave for this journey before I've even you know traveled 22 miles in one direction or must I first fulfill the criteria before I pray my Qasr Salah the intention is that I'm going towards for a long drive if you have the intention to travel as I mentioned 44 kilometers or more both ways and when you have that intention and you begin to travel when you leave that city or village and you start to not see the the walls and and the houses of that city after a few kilometers maybe seven eight kilometers it depends on how big the city is in this case when these signs are disappeared the walls and the houses of that city you reach a place known to be as Hadataraqus a place where now you are given the permission to break your fast and pray Qasr both you don't have to go 22 kilometers all the way 44 kilometers straight and then you break your fast there no no you just pass the city after a few kilometers the houses the walls are disappeared then you reach that point in which you are given the permission to break your fast and pray Qasr as well so you have to make sure that everything is disappeared when you travel from a city nothing can be seen you travel some few kilometers and then you stop somewhere you can break your fast there and you pray Qasr that's fine so Shaykhna correct me if I'm wrong I've made the knee to go on a long journey more than 44 kilometers as soon as I leave my city the city boundary and as soon as there is no more residencies or shops or any of the sort whether it is 22 kilometers or not even if it's less I am allowed to pray Qasr Salah there because of my knee I was to go a very very far distance exactly I mean when you reach that point that you no longer see the walls or the houses of that city your own city that you left or the city you were resided in for 10 days or more and of course you left that city now you no longer hear the adhan of that city just a few as I mentioned kilometers when you pass that level and the stage of the route then you can park somewhere and start eating you in other words to break your fast and of course to start praying Qasr and shorten your prayers you don't have to go as I've said in the last question that you have to go 22 kilometers all the way or to travel 44 kilometers and then you break a fast in the destination now you can on your way just after that's a 10-15 minutes of driving from the boundary for city you stop somewhere you break a fast and you pray Qasr and I was only with the near that you are traveling more than 44 kilometers there and return definitely because that was one of the main conditions I mentioned yes I sent general what's the next condition the next one is the one does not breaks his intention from troubling so when you make the intention that I'm going to travel 44 kilometers or more and you plan that journey and you make the intention if in the middle of the way you decided not to travel and to break his intention then you have to pray full because you no longer are going to go that distance of 44 kilometers both ways so you cannot pray Qasr now you only want to do 10 kilometers both ways for example and come back in this case you have to revert back to the full prayers and you have to keep the fasting so you can't break it because you have to suffer anymore thank you very much thank you for this discussion and thank you to all the viewers for joining us inshallah we'll be continuing our discussion on the Qasr Sala on the next episode until then don't go anywhere


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Hi everyone, and welcome along to this talk around informing cloud native vulnerability management of views from the past You know we've got a lot of talks over the course of this conference looking at the future, right? Looking at where we're going and how things are going to happen And I thought it might be interesting as I kind of adjunct to that to take a bit of a look at the past and say What are some of the things that we've seen in vulnerability management and security management in the past that might help us inform and design those things in the future A key point before we start is the ideas in this presentation are my own not necessarily the views of any employer past Present or future. This is something I've kind of been looking at over many different jobs. So it's not necessarily the view of any one company So to talk a bit about my history why I think you know that I might have some interesting ideas for this I've been in information and IT security for about 22 years now I started in financial services as an analyst and I also then managed Internal penetration testing services for a number of financial services companies in the UK And so I did a lot of vulnerability scanning a lot of vulnerability analysis work a lot of working with the business to get things patched I then spent quite a lot of time as a Pentester as a pentesting consultant and I've done hundreds probably actually thousands of Pentes of a variety of types infrastructure work wireless work web application work and recently a lot of container work And I've also done some work around the kind of vulnerability disclosure space helping find and disclose multiple CVE's I'm a member of humanistic security and CNCF tax security Unfortunately, I obviously wasn't able to be there at the conference in person I actually stay here, which is lock oil head in the West Scottish Highlands Which as you can see looks very pretty in when it's not raining If you ever come to the West Scottish Highlands, I'm afraid it'll look probably won't be able to see those hills And there'll be a lot of rain in the way, but it is very nice when the sun's out anyway So lessons from the past why would we and why we won't want to think about the past when we're looking forward? Well, the first thing to get out of the way is that I'm not saying that nothing should change I think there's a concern we make everybody will start bringing up the past But they're going to say hey nothing should change things work well in the past. We shouldn't mess with it I don't think that's the case. I think we do need to very much change how we do vulnerability management how we do security for a cloud native world But that doesn't mean that we can't look at the past and look at some of the things that went well and badly and Use them to try and inform What it is that we're going to do in the future And I think that's where it's also good idea when you do these things to kind of take a bit of time to step back and do that so The first one the first theme I want to talk about was openness But I think openness is critically important and obviously this is an open source conference So this is going to be a key value anyway, but I think we can talk about why and some of the ways where openness is very important The first one is I take for my time in security testing Which is when we would do assessments either as an internal team or an external team You would often find that some other group would also do an assessment, right? And they'd be using a different vulnerability scanner product And then when they did this you would get a different list of vulnerabilities You might get different severity You might get a different number of vulnerabilities and this was a problem, right because you've told a business group Hey, you've got you know, 50 vulnerabilities the highest is 10 highs and then someone come along It's actually you've got 75 and there's 15 highs and the business it you what is these right and the answer comes down to It's differences in how the scanners worked If those scanners aren't open if they're closed source of the proprietary if you are even worse at their sass So you really can't see what they're doing You have a difficult time answering that question in a lot of cases You can't actually say actually, you know what we can tell what's going on here, and it's this One of the things I see is a great positive of some of the work that's being done at the moment in container vulnerability management With products like gripe and trivy is that they're open source If you want to know why a different result was received You can go and look and they do produce different results in some cases for sure But if you need to actually find that out from a business reason You can go and actually look at the source code and look at how they do their work and come up with some kind of answer So I think that's great, and I think we should be encouraging that openness So that we can actually see what's going on and actually make sure those comparisons because it helps us build confidence With business people in the fact that we're telling them, you know We have some basis for why we're telling them that specific vulnerabilities are in place. I Think the other aspect of openness that I think is very important Is about getting visibility of all the vulnerabilities In the old enterprise world one of the things that was increasingly popular over my time in financial services was appliances And appliances were essentially treated as black boxes, right? You weren't able to get access to them to find out what packages were installed Most cases you weren't able to find out what vulnerabilities were present and to an extent Honestly businesses like that, right because it was a system. They didn't have to manage It was the vendor's responsibility to manage packages and to manage patch management Now in reality, this is a false economy because the vulnerabilities are still present the packages are still installed It's just you don't have any visibility of what's going on So you can't assess the risk of them and I think obviously time's gone by companies have realized this You know, there's a problem here We need to make sure that we have some idea of what is going on inside of those black boxes So that we can have an accurate or a more accurate picture of the risks and vulnerabilities that we face But if we look at cloud native and how cloud is developing one of the things that's very obvious is the Popularity of SaaS services. So we're a company will essentially just subscribe to a service and they'll send their data to it And it'll get processed in whatever way and put back and that essentially is similar to my mind to the way appliances worked A SaaS service is a black box. You don't know what software is in use in most cases You don't know what packages are in use or what versions So from that perspective, I think that we need to think about how can we make that more open? How can we You know, make sure that we're not essentially just hiding the vulnerabilities In another company's network or another company's environment or if we are how are we assessing the risks of that because that's a challenge for us So I think openness to my mind anyway is very important And I think the more the more open we can be the better It's going to be the more confidence will build in what we're doing This one ending the tyranny of the CVE now, I don't want to this come off as a slam on CVE's I think CVE's are great I think having a unique identifier for a vulnerability is a great thing because it helps people discuss that issue And having something to do that with is is great But there are a couple of ways in which In which CVEs can be essentially a kind of a problem and I explain what those might be The first one is that there is there is a some tendency to To say that if there isn't a CVE present then there's no no problem, right? It's not tracked And it's not necessarily prioritised so end user companies Don't look at things or know things unless they have a CVE assigned to them And that's a problem because there are things that don't get CVE's that are definitely something companies should be aware of from a risk perspective An example of that is um, kubernetes security audit So there were multiple uh, high rated security findings in the 2019 kubernetes security audit that haven't been fixed Um, at the same time if you look back over the last three years of the kubernetes project There have been a number of cvs the very least get a bulletin with work around the vast majority of cases get a patch as well But those things in the audit didn't have a cve So I think there wasn't as much pressure necessarily for them to get fixed whereas things with a cve get pressured to get fixed So I think that aspect of of cvs is important one and something that we need to look at The other one is that I think there's a problem where cvs are seen as a bad thing Right. So if I have a cve that's in somehow a black mark on my project and then we want to be careful of that Because you'll get people making false equivalences. They'll say things like oh, well, this doesn't have any cvs and therefore It's a good secure product, which is not correct If you look at things like for example, ibm mainframes So ibm have a published policy that they do not issue cvs for security issues in their mainframe products They don't say that that means they have no security problems However, I have seen it said by some people in the industry that hey, there's no cvs. It must be super secure That's not true. It's just the fact that they don't do that use that system um Another aspect I've seen this with is projects open source projects who don't want a cv assigned because they're concerned It's going to be a black mark And that leads to um, sometimes the things being raised in inappropriate projects or not being raised at all And again, it reduces this tracking So when we're thinking about how we design the future um Having there's a couple of things I think we could look at we could look at the idea of Having something which is wider than just straight up vulnerabilities So things like for example, where security architecture decisions might be tracked Because then you can say here is actually something which is relevant to your risk. Mr. N user company And you should know about it. Maybe there's not going to be a patch or fix for it But you should still know about it. We also need to try as much as possible To get away from the idea that there's some downside to cvs, right? Or to vulnerabilities having a vulnerability for you know, every product has got decisions or Coding bugs. There's no such thing as non buggy code. So everyone's going to have security relevant bugs And I think it's important to try normalize the idea that that's fine. It's a good thing The important part is that there's a process these things are found quickly Trapped as well as possible and fixed where people have got time and resources So I think that's one of the things to keep in mind there And then the last one is um, well not everyone is going to be as interested as does And an important point here is that I'm not saying that I'm not saying that End user companies aren't interested in security What I am saying is that they've got a lot of things to think about they've got a lot of Priorities pressing on them things they have to do with their time And vulnerability management and patch management isn't necessarily always going to be at the top When we are designing systems for the future Having that in mind I think is an important one because if we design something that requires an awful lot of effort From those companies to do to work well Probably won't get used that well and there's a couple of examples from my time that I think were relevant The first one is that um as a pentester in the uk. Um, there's a very common thing which is an annual pentest So a company will essentially do a review Every year and they'll look at the same scope to look at a network a system or the entire environment If you're doing a pentest for the second third fourth here You would bring along the report from the previous year Open up and run down the list of findings to check to see if they're still present I many times have had the experience of some or indeed even all of the fundamental of the findings with previous year Just not being fixed Tests have been done But they haven't actually fixed the findings because presumably they just didn't have the resources and time or prioritize it to actually get that done So there's a key thing there, which is you know People aren't as interested in that in that sense, uh as we would be um And I think that's that's you know, that that's something to think about the other thing is that we look at something like cvss temporal scores You know, there's this thing you can add on to cvss where I've seen You know people managing lots of vulnerabilities and you think about container security world where you might have you know thousands of tens of thousands of container images Something where you have to do it manually for every vulnerability and actually do an analysis Probably isn't going to happen, right? but realistically speaking that they don't have in the kind of Person resources available to actually do that kind of work So trying to steer clear of anything which actually needs that kind of work I think is an important one and I think something that would help us so um to conclude this talk I think it's great to see the renewed effort or to do the effort that we've got going into improving this space I think it's vital that we do take this time to consider and to work out how we can best Apply good security practices good for ability management practices to the cloud native and cloud world um, I think looking at it, uh Trends like improved openness So having things done in the open where we can actually analyze what's going on and everyone knows how things are done It's fantastic because I think it enables us to demonstrate to business people That we're actually finding things and why we found them, you know, we're just telling them something We actually have a reason for it. Um, I think that's very important I think we do have work to do in terms of making sure it's as open as possible And that we reduce as much as possible those kind of black boxes where you don't know what's going on Because you can't assess your risk well if you don't know what's inside the box Um, I think as we're thinking about how we identify vulnerabilities anything we can do to um to widen the scope and say It's not just necessarily bugs, but might be other things as well. We have those things tracked And assessed and scored and prioritized will be good as well. So that we're not too focused on things that come as CVEs and I also think that um I think we need to be conscious of time right conscious of resources Designing systems needs to take the user into account. That's one of the first precepts of any system design End user companies Have a level of resources available for this kind of thing and anything we can do with new systems to try and make it It's easy for them as possible to adopt it Is going to be a win. Um, you want to have that detail there so that you know If someone does want to dive in and you know has the time and resources that they can do that But you also want to have a path for people who have limited amount of resources available for this kind of work So thanks very much For taking the time to listen to this talk. Um, if you want to get in contact with me afterwards Um, I am available on twitter as at race scene and my email address is there on the screen And hopefully you will enjoy the rest of the conference


Consipated but excited. I feel like the do-it-live joke is less funny now. Yeah What's old on top of so many other things? It's old. Yes, you know Right, I guess the pyramid of wrong Monster person extreme We're live. We're so live. There's a time when any monster extreme to anything made it so much better Remember extreme doors extreme mountain do Stream everything all the extreme all the things. I bought some like it wasn't called extreme, but like The best kind of Drano the other day and it was next to like two other kinds of Drano that seemed good also But then there was like extra strength. So I was like why want the best Yeah, that's why that's what they do. That's what they do. I do that with dishwasher pods I always look at the ingredients and I'm like, okay, what's the difference? There's like the top layers like three layers of dishwasher pods One has the three ingredients with like the little power ball in the middle Why would I not want my dishes that clean? Well, this is one of the worst things about modern branding is that they decided they had to differentiate each brand into 17 different versions to trick people into buying them. Well, it's like when they had a concentrated dish soap and then everything was concentrated the worst ones are laundry pods or laundry detergent because What they do is they make it super condensed So you actually don't need to use as much as they say you need to use Because it actually never washes completely out if you use liquid laundry detergent Me too, but I don't use a cap I use enough to cover a little bit more than the bottom of the cap like there's you know When you fill the cap that's the low lines Like I basically use half of what's recommended. All right, you guys are ready to go There we go three two Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more and help keep the show running strong head to daily tech news show comm slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Monday, December 4th, 2017 from DTS headquarters in Los Angeles I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline at the beach. I am Sarah Lane and from studio fiberglass in San Francisco I'm Veronica Belmont. You're literally surrounded by fiberglass right now. Yeah. Yeah, and it's and it's yellow and it's all yellow I'm probably gonna die in here alone. Please. Please someone said help or an air filter Bro, Roger Chang is here as well to produce the show Roger. Thank you so much. I am welcome Let's start with a few tech things you should know Tom's guide tested seven phones to see how fast they recharge using fast charge how fast is fast charge Well, best performer was the one plus five T Charging 59% in 30 minutes and 93% in 60 minutes like just over an hour to get 100% LG v30 was second followed by the iPhone 10 The rest of the pack went this way iPhone 8 8 plus pixel 2 and galaxy note 8 at the end of the group If you want to know what the note 8 was at the bottom and 35% charged in 30 minutes and 74% in an hour So still not too bad Cebo global market said it will begin trading Bitcoin futures on December 10th more than a week before the world's largest futures Exchange CME group launches its market December 18th. Both markets received approval from the US commodity futures trading Commission a Proposed class action lawsuit against mattress maker Casper Alleges the company violated the US electronic communications privacy act by using code from Navi stone That's supposedly collected keystrokes entered in forms even if the form was never submitted Navi stone says it takes privacy law seriously and does not do things like link email addresses to personal info How do they sleep at night? because mattress oh Here are some more top stories kick us off Veronica Facebook launch messenger kids on iOS in the US Monday the app lets children under age 13 do text and video chat with Contacts approved by their parents proactive filters attempt to stop nudity sexual content or violence And a dedicated support team responds to any flagged content a manually filtered version of the giffy search engine Is also integrated into the app a version for Android is coming soon Facebook worked really hard with the FTC They say particularly to make sure they didn't screw this up because a messenger app for kids sounds horrible So a lot of things to like about this It does not immediately convert the kids to a Facebook account once they reach age 13 You know it doesn't push them to do that They only can make friends with contacts that are parental approved one weirdness is the parents Have to be contacts with the other friends parent Interesting to make that contact which is another bulwark here. They've got the you know the bot looking out for the weird stuff I I don't know. I feel like Maybe this is something that kids want to do and and this is a good way to do it But will the kids use it? I don't know is it too soon to be teaching this kind of behavior That's what I want to know. I know it's under age 13. These kids are probably already having a fair amount of screen time I'm not a parent. I know there's very differing opinions on what an appropriate amount of screen or device time is from household to household But is this kind of like encouraging that behavior at a very early age to be communicating on that level or is that stuff happening already? I mean, I think the only reason it wouldn't be happening so much on messenger up until this point is because you know Unless you lie about your age, you're not supposed to have a Facebook account when you're under 13 I kind of like the idea of the parents needing to know the other parents It's sort of like when I was a kid my mom would be like well I'm gonna call Julie's mom and just make sure she's gonna be there if you're going over to her house You know, I mean, it's not a perfect system, but I mean Facebook wants to figure out how to get these Young people in some sort of an account early on although I know my parents didn't want to be friends with all my friends parents Yeah, so I really know that yeah, Roger you're you're you're the parent here Is this something you would see letting your daughter do or you're like no, let's just wait till she's 13 No, I would not let her you use it. It'd be one of those things if she did use it. I'd need to be next to her But definitely not something I would let kids autopilot on even in the back of the car in the long road trip. Yeah And The first step towards a hostile takeover of Qualcomm Monday announcing a list of 11 nominees for Qualcomm's board of directors Qualcomm rejected Broadcom's acquisition offer last month Qualcomm shareholders can vote on Broadcom sale slate of nominees rather at Qualcomm's annual meeting March This this all makes sense Broadcom wants to have Qualcomm's business to broaden out into the various markets of embedded processors and mobile processors Qualcomm actually has some some good automotive stuff and that would fit in with Broadcom's profile as they they continue to To work to acquire NXP. So this all makes sense in the Broadcom side I also see what Qualcomm's like. No, no, we don't want to be part of you We think we can be the people acquiring other companies. I'm sorry Qualcomm is acquiring NXP, which is What Broadcom would get if they got Qualcomm. So anyway Yeah, no means no until you submit a new slate of directors because Qualcomm felt that Broadcom considered them undervalued. Yeah, that was that's what we talked about a couple of weeks ago And I think we knew this wasn't going to be the end of the story just yet But I find this I don't know why I get Every time I hear about this story. I'm like, oh, what's gonna happen next like it's weirdly exciting to me Yeah, I don't think Qualcomm thinks that Broadcom can afford the price. They think they're worth If that makes any sense More than 1.3 million dollars has been transacted on Crypto kitties a game that uses the Ethereum blockchain to trade virtual kittens. Yes Several kittens have reportedly sold for around 50 ether. That's worth about $23,000 They have something with my life They have something called the Genesis kitten. These are the kittens made by the game You can create your own kittens. I'll get that in a second But when the game makes them which is only for limited time periods, those are worth more There was a Genesis kitten sold for 246 ether it's about a hundred thirteen thousand dollars worth of ether The kittens are not stored on a central server, right? It's on the blockchain So even if the game makers went away theoretically you'd still own your kittens There were a set of five of Ethereum contracts written for Axiom Zen. They're the folks that are operating the game Apparently 15% of the Ethereum network traffic is dedicated to the game at least at a high point recently it was 15% of Ethereum traffic 15% 15% Uh-huh. That was the number one five kittens can be sold or bread To create new kittens You get paid if someone breeds with your kitten and then they get to keep the kitten that results from combining The two kittens. I mean they have kind of a DNA thing that allows traits to be passed on So that each kitten has a unique set of characteristics This is the thing that has gotten me to understand a theorem the most this Now it's in terms. I understand which is which is good. I had a really good idea for a Bitcoin mining operation I'm sure some of you have seen bodega house her clever pet that she uses for eating her dinner at night She has to hit the Simon says buttons and it releases food I think that that right there. She is actually Mining Bitcoin that is what that does those actions. Really? No, not really Every million dollar idea my billion dollar idea my one Bitcoin idea. Yeah You hook up mining to the to the dog treadmill Essentially, yeah, I mean the fact that I love the idea of crypto kitties You know the whole thing just sounds like people trying to make cryptocurrency more internet friendly and you know add cats to it and a lot of people like Oh, I want to do that at 15% of Ethereum traffic. It's working. Yeah Axiom Zen thought exactly what you just said Sarah. They're like, yeah, let's add kittens Yeah internet loves kittens and then and the internet's like yes, we definitely love kittens This is now relatable. Yeah Neil Young launched the Neil Young archive containing almost all of his entire back catalog of music Which listeners can enjoy in high quality format using young's extreme music service The catalog is available for free listening until June 30th after which subscriptions will be available though No price was announced extreme delivers the highest quality audio that a user's bandwidth allows So Neil Young's one of those guys who says music doesn't sound good enough at mp3 And I want to help save high quality music. So he created pono Which was a music player and a service and then that didn't work So he retired the player now he's got the service and he wants to he wants to make it work Better for people and I think he's on to something with this adaptive stream so that it says look whatever your bandwidth is We'll give you the highest quality music on that bandwidth that we could up to like super high-quality high-resolution audio Well, I mean Neil Young also very prolific lots of music But once this turns into a subscription, and I know there's not a price announced Yeah, kind of a hard sell unless there's other artists that I'm also Yeah, that's I don't know if there's even one artist that I'd love that I would do this for me either Yeah, I mean Neil Young probably wouldn't be my pick although I think he's great, but like even my most favorite artists like if Rihanna has her own music service. I'm like Hey, hey my my what are you guys talking about?  You know forget title you want to get paid You know for high-quality music here you go join in with us. In fact, that would be the killer Alignment is if Jay-Z joined Neil Young on extreme music and merged title into it that That would just be a powerhouse. I think that could actually work Well, and I know a lot of people who really care about good audio listening will disagree with me But I just I don't know I mean, I I stream my music from Apple music via Bluetooth in my cars in my car speakers Turn it up really loud like I don't know the difference. I and I just I wonder how he'll young wants to teach you the difference, Sarah What he's there for you? Well, I mean, I don't know I I feel like the model of Highest quality audio is harder and harder to prove because people are just used to hearing audio At a variety of different, you know compression settings and I mean, yeah I used to think about this a lot more when I used to work with with Pat with Patrick Morton because he's so dialed into this and I went to school for audio and so he used to totally nerd out on this stuff and now I'm just I'm so used to Spotify. I have a pretty good pair of headphones. I know this is gonna somewhere Patrick Morton is like hearing there's a bell ringing. He's like someone's talking about low fidelity Oh, and not caring about the best possible sound quality and But it's yeah, you just get used to it I guess and unless you're the type of person who still has records and you know really good headphones and wants to have that Ultimate experience. I just listen for fun and convenience and maybe that's the way things are going There will always be a segment of people who want the best possible sound quality and there will always be options for those people Yeah, and maybe this is one of this is the one. Maybe this is gonna be the leading edge for the for the audio file. There you go Some updates about Amazon rolling out in Australia. The company said it will start taking orders in Australia December 5th It's tomorrow with free shipping nationwide shipping times though will be up to three days That's in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Canberra And as long as 10 days to some remote areas Amazon Prime will also not begin taking signups in Australia until mid-2018 Yeah, so they're just they're just opening up their warehouses there I had no idea that you could not do that in Australia. You can order from Australia And in fact Australians, I think can order from Australians on Amazon But it's kind of a crazy shipping situation because Amazon didn't have a warehouse in Australia So it would have to leave the country and come back. I think may have that part wrong But now Amazon has the warehouse in Australia. Yeah, wow, that's that's great Good good for them good except I guess for the the local people in Australia. Well, it's huge because yeah Now Amazon is having to do a whole PR campaign to say we're gonna bring jobs Don't worry even though we're gonna run all of your businesses We promise we'll employ some of you in our huge warehouses Also, I mean if you live in a remote area of Australia and people do if it's going to take up to 10 days The free shipping is a nice touch Yeah, good way to get people on board. What are you gonna say Roger? Oh, no, I just think it's Amazon's role I was been highly anticipated in Australia for the past year and a half ever since they announced it There's some early griping about pricing, but that's just because there's you know, it's an initial set of Products and whereas that are being sold. So I say give it some time, but a lot of people are really hoping Not having to pay overseas shipping to get something off Amazon. Yeah Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes subscribe to daily tech headlines comm It's a podcast. It's an echo flash briefing on the Amazon echo. It's on the Google home It's in the anchor app where you can choose even which stories in the headlines you want to listen to you can apply You can call in it's all there and you can find it to subscribe at daily tech headlines comm All right, so last Wednesday a Neil dash wrote a medium post called underscores optimization and Arms races now a Neil dash is the CEO of fog Creek software right now But he was one of the pioneers of blogging with type pad and movable type And so he was recalling those early days of blogging in this post Noting that back in the early aughts people thought URLs with article titles might rank better in Google This was back when Google didn't say anything about how they ranked anything You couldn't use spaces in a URL. So people started using underscores at least a Neil dash and type pad started using underscores But WordPress started using hyphens and there was some friendly debate over that for a while Then in the summer of 2005 Matt cuts working for Google wrote for URLs in Google I would recommend using dashes and the downfall of Western civilization began According to a Neil dash no he goes on to explain that as everybody decided to Change to dashes, which he really meant hyphens He Neil dash started to feel like this is a bad move. We shouldn't start adapting our content I know it's just hyphens and dashes, but we shouldn't adapt our content to please Google It's like pandering almost to to the to the algorithm Which is kind of fascinating because as as Neil writes in his article, you know back in the day Like blog posts were numbered so it would be like a whole list of long numbers And then they're like okay We can make this look a little bit better by categorizing it by year and then month and then date and then title And then it was figuring out what titles looked the best and then it started becoming this idea of round How do we enable users to use search engines to find our content the best? You know, it's about title and subtitle and headers and what the URL actually is and all these different factors But it was very much like a we don't really know We're just kind of trying things out and in the articles that Matt would post there'd be like little hints about what may be the you know what how the SEO was working and what Google was looking for in these articles in order to figure out page rank and figure out what results to prioritize and Suddenly it was like okay underscores. I guess are now the thing like everybody has to change to underscores was dashing Dashes were the thing and every and the people with underscores were like Hypens yeah, and it sounds like I mean that's the point that anneal dash is making is that you know having a vague sort of like Google saying we recommend dashes and being like but why what's the good reason for that? You know, do we change our entire format not knowing how your algorithm works? Which is something that we all still deal with to this day Well, I mean even think about back to 2011 with the the Google Panda stuff And suddenly the algorithm completely changed again and everybody had to refigure out how to how to Recategorize their blog posts and figure out what search terms to use and and things I was working at Mahalo at the time, which was technically a competitive search engine product and you know It was like everything could have broken in that instance and did and so it was like Google Just decides these things and then everybody has to dance to dance if they want to remain profitable or discoverable And and that's what anneal is pointing out in this article as much as I would like to spend the next 10 minutes making jokes About how anneal dash was against dashes his point is bigger than that his point is Is that? Yes, a dash or a hyphen who really came you know hyphen or an underscore who really cares But at that point Google went from indexing the web as it was To dictating how the web worked driving it yeah, and it was a small change But more changes came after that it set the precedent of we should adapt our content in order to make it work on Google and he talks about how the community then went from People who just wanted folks to find their posts and read them or maybe place in pranks like Google bombs to marketers really Creating an industry to game the system higher industry. Yeah to what we now have with trolls and harassers and activists Essentially trying to change what looks to be popular Yeah, it's um, it's it's crazy to me sometimes when I think about how there is an entire You know marketing arm of the industry around gaming SEO and figuring that out and experts in that field And it seems like almost unknowable to me even as a as a person who works in technology sometimes But yeah, it's really that's the way it is now And it's kind of sad to me that we have to kind of dance that dance and on one side it makes things more convenient because sometimes better content the the more Reputable or the better sources hopefully float to the surface though That is not always the case and Google had that problem big time Especially with Google home and picking which excerpts it reads from different news news sources based on questions It's being asked we saw a big problem around that But at the same time like it doesn't always give the little guys an opportunity to have their content be brought to the fore So it's like a weird balancing act and I don't know if Google has it figured out I think the people creating content certainly don't have it 100% figured out Well, it is one of the better arguments Against Google's market position Because it's a matter of leverage You don't care about underscores or hyphens if Google is not so compelling as an ad source for early blogs And none of this gets started the reason that there is such a community driven to game the SEO system Is because Google is where you win or lose if you're not seen on Google You're not seen anymore even in the United States where it's not as big as in the EU So you don't have a lot of leverage to buck the system I mean, it's one thing and Neil ends up by saying we've got to encourage today's newer creative communities in Media and tech and culture to not constrain what they're doing to conform to the dictates of an opaque Unknowable algorithm, which is easy to say. Yeah, but it's really hard when if you don't do that you might lose Yeah, I mean, I think that's I think you've totally hit the nail on the head. It is very easy to say that But it's very hard to do. Yeah without the leverage To force Google to change their ways.  Mm-hmm. I agree always felt that way still use them. I'm with you Neil underscore I mean dash. Oh You're not winning any favors from that quarter Yeah, even with file naming now I think Sarah was talking about this a little bit earlier in the pre-show too Like I still need to name all my files with underscores even though you can use spaces in OS 10 Yeah, it doesn't matter, but I still put underscores in all my file names. No, I do that too. Hold have us die hard Hey, thanks everybody participates in our subreddit You can submit stories of vote on a daily tech news show dot reddit.com and at facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show Let's check in with Chris Christensen at amateur traveler about a software bug that made Christmas both great and empty for All this is Chris Christensen from amateur traveler with another tech in travel minute I saw a story in flyer talk comm this week Those of you who work in software like me know that bugs happen glitches happen They often have unintended consequences and sometimes rather humorous consequences in a certain light as this overlaps travel this week American Airlines flight assessment app had a bug and the bug resulted in all of American Airlines pilots being assigned leave Over the Christmas week. That means that over 15,000 flights are scheduled to take off without a pilot Unfortunately for the airline this comes when the union has been trying to get increased holiday pay And so when they asked pilots to come and work anyway a lot of them were saying no Thus, I saw there was good news. They were down to hundreds of flights without a pilot I'm Chris Christensen from amateur traveler because holiday travels is a breeze. Otherwise, that's a that's way worse And I had even initially heard I heard that all many pilots had double booked for the holiday season But yeah, he's saying here all of the pilots All the American Airlines. Yeah, all the American Airlines. Yeah, what I mean specifically American Airlines. That's Yeah, they had what I don't know how many days it was but there were at least at least a day where I'm taking a train to Tahoe. That's my trip. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just not gonna leave the house Gonna be my trip stay home never leave. That's the solution. All right. Let's check and see what's in the mailbag Jim writes approximately 14 15 months ago Signed up for Google Fi purchase and nexus 5x from them at the same time I've beautifully paid five dollars per month for five phone protection since this purchase Recently fingerprint reader stopped working many hours with customer support doing two factory wipes the whole thing They finally agreed phone not working properly Since I purchased phone protection I thought they just send me another phone But I was shocked when they told me now they were gonna give me a credit of about a hundred dollars towards buying a new Google phone I need a phone. It's gonna cost me more than that four hundred five hundred dollars to replace the 5x Hundred hundred bucks hundred fifty bucks won't do it. I've been paying five dollars a month So now I feel like I was ripped off He points to a reddit post or a reddit thread rather Where other people are complaining about the same thing. So he says to the DTNS community Do you have any advice for me? Is this type of treatment standard? Yeah there this what it seems like people are Suspecting here is that Google doesn't have any more nexus 5x's so they can't make good on the the replacement promise Knowing that if you were to take them to court what would likely happen is a judge would award damages to you in the amount Around a hundred dollars that is their guess They're gonna give you a credit of around a hundred dollars and say look we've already we'll just skip that step And we'll give everybody a credit here Especially because the 5x is a couple years old now But that is not going to change the fact that Jim and other people like him need a phone They you know the hundred dollars is great and all but you know, maybe they don't have another four hundred dollars To skip out on on a phone and you can't buy a nexus 5x anymore Unless you buy it used and the credit isn't gonna be worked that so they need the cash, but that's less than a hundred dollars. So yeah I'm curious beyond, you know, hey everybody get together and do a class action or something like that. Is there anything practical? That could help Jim Feedback at daily tech news show.com The whole five dollars a month thing that would that would get me as well. Yeah, cuz it's like I had insurance Come on My elbow anymore, but like what's a comparable thought? Yeah, just give me back everything I paid for insurance then Which is not the way insurance works, right? And that's not Google can't do that because they probably weren't collecting the five dollars five dollars was probably going into an insurance fund so Veronica you just look like Yeah, this is reminding me of a problem my mother-in-law is dealing with with her Internet service, uh-huh, which is very frustrating. That's a topic for another day Well, you'll be back another day. Thank goodness and you can find Veronica other places as well, right? 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Oh, Casper Casper, yeah Purina crypto chow anyone we love crypto kitties Amazon moves down under that whole thing is gonna is a bubble. I'm waiting to burst. I tell you that right now Neil dash underscores Cryptocurrencies and you'll dash underscores the importance of dash not that they'll go away. It's just I think over inflated How does Casper sleep at night's crypto kitties keep on rocking in the stream world? Not a nod to Neil Young it is music Use underscores would be a shame of something were to happen And you'll dash hopes and you'll dash dashes hope on dashes Broadcom, it's not me. It's you calm versus calm Tomorrow show will be a 20-minute apology for the puns Neil Young still says that's just Never apologize for puns. What's in the URL dash against dash use underscorer. Oh, wait rooting the internet rooting dash the dash internet Hi, I think it was a hyphen. Oh hyphen dash My vote is one of the crypto kitties ones for all these reasons, but you know, I can be swayed Elsewhere, I like to have one too. That's a band that doesn't need to be in high-fidelity I think I'm sorry never apologize. All right. I need that. I need the title now and my son is top Yes, but this is not a democracy no, I'm fine with that I just didn't know if that That was nothing else tickles my toes. Well, cuz Sarah liked the Kitty ones I kind of like what like I mean, that's low-hanging fruit for me. I'm always gonna choose that also. It's good for SEO Only if you use dashes in the title All right, it's done that's done. I met we've talked to Matt cuts before he used to be head of SC I think he still is at Google. No, I don't think he's there anymore. He's not He used to have all sorts of great tricks on how to search your stuff on Google Look him up on Wikipedia, but I don't think I think he I think I might be confusing him with someone else though So Let me see when will the kitty bubble pop is number one ethereal kittens is number two ethereal kittens. Yeah ethereal kittens. Well, that's not that's not what it is though. That's just create your own kittens Also, I just want a kitten title Tom. No, I'm just looking at the votes now We decide to be so democratic I'll actually pay attention to the titles and go look Let's see When will the kitty bubble pop? That's pretty funny. It's a theory um kittens Am I think Amazon is pretty funny. All right That's a good one. I know that's the one Roger like he left he left in 2017 to join the us digital service So I was recalling correctly Yeah, but it was recent that he left. I didn't realize it was that recent. It was just this year Am Oz on I remember they were all I hate wearing my glasses, but The rundown was so much easier to read today. Yeah I I was kind of just like pretending that I have 2020 vision I remember that moment when I was like, I guess I'll try doing the show with my glasses on and then I'm like Oh, I didn't make any mistakes reading because I couldn't see Maybe I should do you drive that way without glasses Who me? Yeah. Yeah Because I I'm far I'm farsighted. So it's only the reading Me too. Me too. Yeah, so you won't see the stop sign You see the stops I didn't get till you get to it then it's blurry. You see the billboard far away. No problem Yeah, yeah, no, you see I can read road signs and everything fine. It's the Um, it's like the nav on my phone. I couldn't read So I wear these Sometimes when I drive so that I could read nav But if I know I'm not going to need to read anything actually inside of the car Well, I tried to get around it by increasing the text on google sheets to 125 percent Which helped yeah Also helps but like It still wasn't like crisp Yeah Well, as soon as you pass 35 your eyes start getting stiff Well, luckily I'm 29 forever. So 27 for me. I'm I'm that's my that's your forever. Yeah, 71 71 27 Forever 71 29 forever sounds like a really good store idea Forever forever like I felt like I knew enough like I didn't know as much as I know now, but I knew enough felt pretty good Sorry, oh, it's okay. I'm 35. It was when was it? I don't know how many years ago. 2009 Something like that. Was it the year we started sorting lasers that way? No, it was um kind of what I was going after What year did you start? I would like to be 2007 Yeah, 10 years ago. Yeah good run. Yeah, we just had our 10 year old birthday. That's so great. I know It's kind of bananas That shiz is bananas and I s That is the second Gwen Stefani reference I've made today My car yesterday. Oh, yeah, we've been doing east meets west for 12 years I don't even that's crazy I we've done it since I was at seen it when I was at seen it. We were both at seen it And then I left seen it And then we all left seen it Roger left first I left first I left on Christmas The the the week before Christmas, but roge you weren't part of buzz out loud at all. Totally different. No, I was part of game spot live Oh, it's the live that makes it exciting great and incredibly hot with the lights on I should head to work You are at work, but you have to go to other work right Go look like I'm at work Stop actually working here and start looking like you're working But if you put like a mannequin in your place while you do the show at the desk That would be weird with a bot Yeah They'd never know Did you get that to me yet? Did you get my email? And it'll just be like Veronica's most frequently pre-recorded answers. Yeah. Oh, just no, you know, I'll have like a text of speech engine in your lol And the way hold on just a second What would be cool is the mannequin will have a speaker where the mouth is Oh, do I need to What happened to uh Tom did he not like us? Really? Tom's like Yeah, are we not streaming? I know I'm still stream. I'm running the stream Okay, I don't know if I need to Tom's back. Yeah. No. So the uh, the audio version's gonna miss the last minute of what you said I don't know what happened there. We just asked about like, oh, where did Tom? Yeah Yeah, to be on the audio version. You won't hear that. You'll just hear me going. Whoa. Well, that was weird. Hold on Did google say we just want to make sure it's you? No, the window just disappeared It just closed itself Well, maybe we've reached singularity and the in the search engines finally figured out what's going on Yeah, maybe flexing its muscles twitching its toes It protects the person with the stop with the start and stop broadcast button. That's what it is, Roger It's sacrificed me for your good Yeah, I'm fine with that As it should be All right All right, I'll see you guys later. Thanks You too fight And I'm almost published here too. It was a quick publish today publish on the hair publish on your hair Flipped a bit from a cosmic ray says undermined. Yep Probably I don't believe that can ever happen You don't believe that a cosmic ray could ever flip a bit. You don't think it's you think it's impossible It would never happen ever. Oh, okay. I will not say it's impossible. I'll say it's improbable Flip a bit. Yeah. No, it is improbable That's I agree with you a bit of what?  They call it the golden bb It's the one small caliber rifle hit that hits the most important part on the helicopter. Yeah golden Golden bb also one of my favorite pubs Do they do uh fish and chips? Yeah, well, I have a I have a hatred for fish and chips What do you guys think about just converting the show into a pub? Into it Like a gastropub or just a pub pub? I could be I thought about gastropub. We could do that I mean I can do a gastropub if you're in a pub You kind of want it to like kind of want to like drink a pint And midday is tough Yeah, that's why the gastropub is great because you get to eat. Well, I'm yeah, I'm thinking We Instead of the show trying to get people to donate on patreon. We say if you want to hear the show come to the pub Oh wait, is this running a restaurant kind of thing because you know how I and you have you have experience Roger This idea can work I mean there are definitely physical locations that hosts podcasts. Oh, yeah No, we could in all seriousness. We could do that. You're right You know, if you host if you put in Arcadia, you get really cheap fiber with like symmetrical 100 Probably cheaper retail space too And they're peacocks that run wild in the city Right and that could be our we could use that as our um as our logo No one No one would ever sue us for using a peacock as our logo Never because we're in Arcadia Why isn't mbc in Arcadia? Uh, yeah, no, I just really like pubs. I don't really want to change the show that much but I like a good pub Yeah, I do. Yep. I like pub food. I again, I'm not a drinker, but pub food is good I love all of it. I love the the wooden interior, you know, the nice comfy dark place I don't actually Reminds me of old people something I don't want. Yeah, I'm forever 71 It's like it's like that it's like that a lamp with the green tint on it that they used to use back of the uh late 19th century late 20th century for Accountants and people calculated stuff. Oh, yeah.  They should remind me of old people. I think I want my retirement to be a pub Run you like run it? No, just sit at it I'll have to run it It's work, you know at my favorite pub if you want to call it a pub. Hanano. It's a uh casual pub Uh, mr. Hanano, that's what I call him. I don't know his real name, but the guy who owns the place Yeah He has his little stool and like when he's there you can't sit there. Oh, right. Okay. That's where he sits Yeah, yeah, he does the cross bird New York Times cross bird And he kind of you know, he's friendly enough, but he's not talking to anybody just kind of You know observing and I think mr. Hanano has the life right Because he just wanted to like go and people watch and do his cross bird and now we can yeah uh, Paco's tacos Paco stands at the front greets people Not particularly friendly unless he really knows them, but you know, he's not mean or anything Uh and then just sits and watches hockey or baseball or whatever in between. I'm like, it's pretty good Like he he owns the place And then it's at the front and it's like how many Three he makes somebody else go see them. He didn't he didn't do that He's just watching. Yeah, he's got you know, he has he has support Yeah, yeah, like, you know, it's the same, you know, if you change it to more morning hours It's like I'd love to have a cafe You know serve people coffee say hello Well, okay, so my favorite place ever was laser me cafe in austin texas. It's gone now They tore it down and made it a starbucks But it was a former austin cab driver who served beer wine coffees lattes and like great food So and cheap super cheap food and you could just go there and sit there all day I mean that I that's honestly the ideal right there That's how I feel. I mean, I know there's a part to it when you're running a business, but I'm like Play good music Hang out with the locals You know, yeah, do a podcast but you're you own the place I love it You have a little stage where you do a podcast. You guys have such a romanticized view of that life It's so true. Everyone I know The food industry is like No, yeah. No, and I believe me. I know I know that I want the romanticized version to be true though, roger this That's like every prize fighter or fulver soccer player or rugby player or Pro sports. They open a bar or a restaurant. They just hang out there I know All right, folks. Uh, well, we will probably not be turning the show into a pub or cafe unfortunately But we will be back tomorrow with another show. So Please join us then Join us won't you?


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We just made three easy leather projects using three different tools our cricket our x-tool and the glow forge And we'll show you how we did it right now What is up a welcome back do like to do a builder to make it so do we and we have a new video each week This week we're getting into a little bit of the leather working leather working light We've been wanting to do a leather project for a while now But I didn't really have any great ideas So some folks from Silver Creek leather reached out and sent us a box of like leather samples here So we've come up with three projects using three different tools our cricket our x-tool and the glow forge Now Silver Creek leather is a supplier to all the craft stores They supply real leather and that's the leather that you see in Michaels Joann's Hobby Lobby so what we make today you'll be able to make from the leather you can get your local craft store project number one tiny backpack Dora We're gonna make a little air pod case everybody has a set of air pods or something close to these these little Wireless earbuds and so we thought this would be a great little project to test out the leather make a little no-sew air pod case Step one and we're gonna gather all of our supplies. We needed some leather our real leather our Silver Creek leather We're gonna use Rivets we're gonna use a little stud post studs and You don't need your air pods, but we have them to put back in put in our case at the end Oh and the cricket. Yes, this one.   We're gonna do a little backpack handle on back putting the backpack handle on It's not really a backpack. It's not two straps. It's just a one strapper here. So one strapper. Yeah Hold on. Can you help on my yeah my beautiful nails? Here Yes, and then I just need to put this on you just fold the little loop in the back.  Oh Like yeah, it's out in there. Perfect. I don't want a little deep. No careful. Don't crush the front All right All right.  It's a little screw post.  Can you get it? Can you do it? Can you do it? No now with those nails Little bougie right now I'm gonna be a crafter with all this. Yeah, I don't know you just play one on TV Is that it? That's it. All right, let's put it in a little backpack. I Don't know if those straps will fit around my shoulders though Get in there. Yeah. Yeah. Look at that He's cute little guy. It's like a little baby Yoda sack We had the accents it's actually project number two Dingle dangles We're going to make a wristlet. So a wristlet can be used as a key chain can hold your tiny backpack can be a Accent for your purse could be a whip. So we're going to use chaps. Oh For this project, we're gonna use the X-Tool D1 10 watt laser We're gonna do a cut and engrave step one. We're gonna gather all of our supplies Well, we needed leather and you can use any leather, but we're gonna use veg tan. It's kind of looks raw Yeah, because I found these markers these real leather leather markers and we're going to give this a pop Yeah, we're gonna color our leather using these markers. We're also gonna use This key ring this swivel hook some jump rings and some rivets and the X-Tool D1 laser Step two, we're gonna make all of our cuts We're gonna take the leather over throw it underneath the X-Tool do some engraving and then cut it out We masked off our veg tan so we wouldn't get that char or burn on the top side Then I used 100% power 10 millimeters per second one pass Step three Now we're gonna tan some hides. We're actually just gonna color in our flowers Time to assemble it. We're just gonna use some of these little rivets and just kind of pair them up, right? Yes, we're gonna stack. We're gonna stack these flowers the yellow the pink and the green We're gonna assemble these front to back see that so that they're pink on each side. Okay Look at these cute flowers So you're gonna put the top in there.  We're gonna add our charms to our little key ring here. Oh My goodness. That is so cute Step four and now we have the accents. We're just gonna clip this one onto this one We're gonna attach it to our tiny backpack He's on Project number three Chaps. Nope. He wanted chaps, but they didn't send us enough leather for chaps. I will accept hat tag That was so the real project is gonna be a cute customizable hot hat tag hot tags They are they're so hot right now that I thought this would be a great project for us to try it with this leather It's genuine leather. It's genuine leather. We're gonna use the glow forage on this one We're gonna do a cut and engrave and use one of their new tools in the glow forage app. So holes. So holes So holes Step one, we're gonna gather all of our supplies I needed a hat and some leather since this is a hat and leather project and we're gonna sew it So we're gonna use this waxed thread By real leather this big needle and because I got petite hands I need a thimble and some vice grips to pull that through step two We're gonna make all of our cuts. I'm gonna throw the leather in the glow forage We're gonna give it in a grave and cut and even cut out our sole holes For materials will select thick natural leather and we'll do HD engrave. I'll draw two boxes around this logo Now I'm gonna select one of these boxes and go to patterned lines over on the right-hand side Then I'll select stitching holes. I'll adjust the spacing and print.  Yes The wax thread has four threads in there I'm pulling it apart and only using two threads for our sewing two threads.  I'm ready to sew. First thing I'm gonna put some double-sided tape on the back Kind of hold it in place while I get it going Yes, you do the alignment the great thing about this About these hats is that they have this nice seam right in the middle and it makes it easy to line up You hold it for me. Okay, and I will What do you guys think I told you they're all pretty easy, right? They're all super easy I think sewing was actually the hardest one Trying to poke through this backer piece. Yeah, I think the backer on this hat's pretty stiff. Yeah But otherwise they were all pretty easy. Yeah, I love the colors and this keychain. I didn't even know they offered markers for leather That was pretty cool. So I thought I would show you guys what you could do This little wristlet and keychain is adorable My little backpack is also adorable The little airpod case came with its own little wristlet strap So we attached that I think that was super cute. We forgot it and I love the patch on this hat I love that we can customize this and make it anything you want. So I think if you want to offer something like this in your store Um being able to customize these patches with something like the x-tool or the glow forge Yeah, I think it's great. Well the glow forge was nice because of the new feature of making the sew holes Yes, yes, yes, so easy with the sew holes Right, all we had to do was click the button and they were there You didn't have to line them up or figure it out spacing or anything. Yeah, that was nice I love them. So cute. So these were fun fun leather projects I'm gonna put this jam on All right So fancy big thanks to all of our patrons. We love you guys Thank you so much And did you know that we are full-time content creators? If you enjoy our content and you want to see more of it, you can join us over on patreon Garrett puts up all kinds of fun stuff every week. He adds svgs Sometimes it's outtake videos. We have limited merch releases every week's an after show Every week there's an after show and then monthly we do zoom calls live with our top tier patrons So join us over on patreon for a little extra fun Yeah, I have nothing to balance. It's all floppy. Oh, yeah. Well here you can balance I don't know what you can balance balance my hat Do hat tricks? Oh, let me see if I can put my hat on backwards ready Yeah, I can do it both ways