Hi, welcome to the SideCars and Netflix presentation. I'm Rodrigo, I'm a software engineer at Kinfolk. A little bit about me. I studied computer science in Argentina and I'm a maintainer of MetalB and core Kubernetes reviewer. And as I said, I work at Kinfolk. We are focused on developing open source software. You may know some of our projects like FlatCar Container Linux. There is a container optimized for us or Headlamp, a Kubernetes work UI or Logomotive, a fully self-ported Kubernetes distribution. Today I'll be presenting with Manus, a software engineer at Netflix. He works on the compete infrastructure team on container execution and we work together on the cycle ordering on the QLED. The talk is divided in two parts. First, Manus will share how Netflix is used in SideCars containers and in the second part, I'll talk about the problems we face today with SideCars and the efforts we did to improve this situation in Kubernetes after. Hi, I'm Manus. And before we dive into SideCars, here is some background. At Netflix, our fleet is composed of more VMs and Titus, our container platform is gaining organic adoption. We are now working to make Titus the primary deployment target to give developers one well supported infrastructure that allows them to iterate fast and is also more scalable and more efficient at the same time. The goal is to do this migration fast and automate as much as we can. So hundreds of platform engineers are not supporting two deployment targets for a very long time. To get a sense of what we are migrating, here is what a typical VM runs at Netflix. We have the application typically running in the JVM and a series of daemons providing service discovery, security and observability to the name of few things. Application developers expect these daemons to just work and so we run them in an operationally sensitive fashion by which I mean we start and shut them down in a specific order restart them when they fail and they are generally available to the application. As an example, the metrics forwarder starts up before the agent which boots track certificates. This is important because consider what happens when that agent starts failing. In our case, it can publish a metric to report these failures and we can use our monitoring and other things systems to track and remediate these. In the same way, the service mesh expects TLS certificates and the open policy agent to be available before it starts up. Otherwise every application has to decide if the mesh needs to fail open or short circuited start. To do this we run daemons as system D units and use its DSL to get the ordering and restart policies we want. We also control the shutdown sequence with system D. So a node is taken out of service discovery and connections get drained before we shut it down. Now, here is what a Titus host instance is running. The virtual cooblet launches an instance of Titus executor per container and because Titus is an independent container in different AWS accounts with different security groups and IM roles run on a shared instance. We provide the functionality provided by daemons and BMS using what we call system services and alongside a few extra services we need for example, we intercept instance metadata service on Titus. Finally, we have some software we use to manage the field. It might seem that the best way to run services is to run containers that look like VMs but this means that we have to rebuild and redeploy containers when we want to replace system services. This impacts how fast we can react to security advisories or deploy hotfixes to these services and we see these problems on VMs. Secondly, it is not possible for developers to import a container from Docker hub and expect it to work on Titus in this setup. We want our developers to have this ability to experiment. Also, we cannot intercept the instance metadata service or mount remote storage securely in this model. So perhaps we should run multi-tenant services on the host. This has no ordering issues and we might optimize some resource usage. We started by running a multi-tenant instance metadata service as an example but we learned very quickly that users can accidentally deploy workloads which query it in a tight loop. This starves other containers on the host and if that loop is leaking connections, then our service runs out of file descriptors and now we have a bad host. Another example is a log viewer which used to be multi-tenant and developers realize that the log viewer is a performant HTTP server. So why write your own? When you can serve large files by writing them to the log volume and as a platform we want to be resilient to such resource sharing issues. The second problem is that we have workloads that expect to not be disrupted once they are running. This means all our system services will need to have the ability to hot reload and have perfect tenant isolation if these workloads are going to meet their SLAs. There are some more serious challenges when it comes to securing these multi-tenant services. Consider our multi-tenant log viewer which serve logs for all containers and someone figured out that relative parts work. We also allowed users to configure the matrix agent using a file in a volume and the red team provided a handcrafted executable instead of a CSV. Now we have compromised the host instead of a container and this is not acceptable. We feel it is difficult to anticipate all these issues and get perfect isolation and fault domains on multi-tenant services. So we write single tenant services and contain them with the workload. To that end we have settled on a design where we give every container its own set of immutable system services and usually this guarantee is that once a container is set running it will keep running. We tie the lifetime of the service to the container so the service dies when the container dies and the service also shares the identity, fault domains and resources with the container. This means for example that the application and service mesh share a cryptographic identity, namespaces and C-groups which is almost always what our users expect. So how does Types execute a run system services? It starts by creating the container using the image specified by the user and then it bind mounts data containers which package the system services into it. These are ruthless containers in our system and that has its pros and cons. It also bind mounts a socket which we use to control the container and a few volumes and it does all of this in parallel. Next it runs the container with the entry point set to tini which immediately blocks. This creates the namespaces and C-groups in which the system services run. Tini is a tiny unit for containers which is used by Docker and we use our own fork. Now the executer can set system services running with the correct ordering and restart policies and we do this using systemd. These services are actually parametrized units which are managed by the systemd running on the host. The information about which container to join is passed in files on the host by the Types executer and finally we simply use run C to launch a process running inside the container. Now the service is running in the namespace and C-group of the container which means that the kernel will reap the service when the container arrives. Once the sidecars are running we release Tini using the socket and it runs the entry point as a child. Tini remains PID 1 except in special cases and we use it to redirect standard output and error and also to do more advanced things with Seccom Notify as an example. Since Tini is not really optional the way we use it Titus can avoid the overhead of host containers. We just follow the reverse sequence when shutting down a container so services are always available. We don't have to worry about an application starting before the metadata service starts and crashing or the metadata service stopping before the application and causing the application to crash. I should point out that there are some special services like SSH where we don't use run C. There used to be a time when we ran Docker exec to get a shell in the container but that is insecure. Now we use a custom injector. This injector is a small C program. Again we pass information about which namespaces to join via the environment and the injector makes sure that it wears the correct app armor hat and change hat before it enters the container and launches the SSH server. With this work we can use a real SSH server with all the bells and whistles including the ability to SCP files to the instance and that is nice. We'll do some similar advanced injection for mounting remote storage and intercepting the metadata service and this way we can avoid running privileged containers or using IP tables connection tracking and you can find more details in the Titus executor sources which are open source. That brings us to how we version and upgrade the system services. For most workloads the executor reads what the current stable version of sidecars is from a centralized store and this happens at every container launch. This makes upgrading sidecars fast and simple. We change the configuration in the store and trigger a redeploy if required and some jobs have more exacting SLAs and they specify a exact version for a specific service. For example applications in the streaming path might pin the service mesh. In this case all containers in that Titus job get the pinned version. Some services are opt-in and there is a parameter on Titus job which says if a container gets that particular service or not. But broadly it is an open problem for us how we go about managing and upgrading these services as we adopt a growing number of them to enable our developers. The challenge in this pace is pretty big and it's probably worthy of a discussion of its own. In summary system services are pretty easy to implement using rootless containers. We get the benefit of being able to share mount and pin name spaces so when a user logs into a container they see a process tree and file system layout that makes sense. But we can only have one user container in our model and we want to have more user containers to move towards more composable workloads. It is not trivial to create these services and see or go. It is not so easy to build a relocated statically linked SSH server and currently we expect our partners to pay the stacks alongside us if they want to run system services. Lastly the debugging experience for these containers is terrible. You can't ship extra tools with these containers and debug symbols blew up the size of these containers which can make these containers a long pole in container start names. So what has this got to do with the Kublin? Titus started life as a mesos cluster but starting in 2019 we moved to virtual Kublin. My colleagues are going to talk about this in KubeCon San Diego you can look at that talk. And over the past year we have been adopting more Kubernetes components in our core plane like Kube scheduler, CRDs and controllers which do fleet management and usage based scheduling as an example. So in 2020 we decided that we would try to migrate to the Kublin. Then we can run multiple user containers and get benefits of the Kubernetes ecosystem what we ran into some problems. First we need startup and shutdown ordering to run parts of the model. We have teeny and we know how to write the unique socket so naturally we thought of building a coordinator using the web hook and you get this contraction. This works but we are not enthused about rewriting entry points to all containers when using the Kublin. We also looked around and found KEP753 and decided we would work with Rata to see how far we can get with two phase ordering. Now if we had that feature some agents like the log viewer and aggregators or the open policy agent can start up before the application if we mark them as sidecars. You can even make the cryptographic bootstrap work by splitting it into an init container that generates the certificates and a sidecar that refreshes them. And then there are some system services like storage which we can implement using the CSI and metadata and implement using the CNI if we are willing to tweak our resource isolation a little bit. But we cannot make the metrics forward or start first or shut apart down with connection training till we have made some more progress on ordering. We will probably maintain some highly sophisticated injectors outside the Kublet and that is fine but we don't want to build a contraction outside the Kublet or run an internal fork and risk maintaining it in perpetuity if the community pursues a different direction. In summary, we run sidecars in an operationally sensitive fashion and letting them crash is not an option for us. We also run an aggressive security posture using username, spaces, seccom and app armor. And there have been cases where one of these was the final thread between us and an attacker so we cannot compromise here. Finally, we like our single tenant services they are easy to write and run reliably. I want to wrap up by saying that we want to move towards a more composable pod with sidecars and multiple user containers and we could use the Kublet to get there if it had ordering and username space support. So now over to Rata for more about the Kublet. Hi, I'll now explain what are the problems that we have with sidecar containers in Kubernetes today and the efforts we did in Kubernetes option to improve this. Before we start, let me say that Kubernetes knows nothing about sidecar containers today. Kubernetes treats all containers in the same way. The distinction between sidecar and main containers is useful only for us, at least for now. So let's see some problems we have today if Kubernetes doesn't really know anything about sidecars. I'll use a service mesh for several examples but the problems are not limited to a service mesh. They affect the vast majority of sidecar containers. So one problem that we face today is that there is no startup order warranties. The main container can be started before the sidecars and when that happens, the window between the main containers is started until the sidecar is ready is the window where the problems usually arise. For example, if the sidecar is a service mesh all network connections will be black hole until the service mesh container is ready. This is not a minor problem and workarounds are not great, quite the opposite. I work around in some cases, for example, is to do nothing. Let's say your container crashes when sidecars are not ready. If you do nothing, your container will crash until the sidecars are ready and the next time it is restarted, it will work. This can be slow though and if your sidecar depends on some other sidecars this can get easily super slow and this will be a problem you face to scale up when traffic increases, for example. Another workaround is to change your container entry point. For example, you can change it with a script that waits for other sidecars to be ready and only then starts the main process in the container. An example of this is the linkerD await comment linkerD to become ready and then executes your container process. This has a lot of downsides it becomes impossible with a lot of sidecars and we fail the promise of augmenting the functionality without changes to the main container. The container are completely coupled right now if we do this. Something similar happens on shutdown. There are no order guarantees on shutdown either so the sidecar can terminate before the main application and this is a big problem for several scenarios. Let's say the sidecar is a source mesh again. If the source mesh is killed before your main container we won't be able to gracefully finish inflight connections because we can use the network and this is a big problem. Workarounds will have far from good too like doing a slip to delay being killed or ignoring the term or just losing some traffic. All workarounds have big problems all workarounds have big downsides. Another problem that I want to talk about is that we can't use sidecar containers with a job today. A job is a part that runs until completion it computes something and finish like the first 100 digits of pi and it usually works like this the container starts, computes something and finish therefore all container exits successfully and coordinates persist to clean up the pod However, if we are using a source mesh for example, we start the pod with two containers the main container and the source mesh the main container finishes but the sidecar won't finish and it will never finish because it is a demon therefore the pod continues to run forever and it will never be cleaned up Similar problems arise when we take into account init containers because init containers also run until completion but let's not go into the details of those now we can read them in the cap linked at the end of the presentation if you want So those are the problems we currently have with sidecar but now let me tell you about the Kubernetes enhancement proposal we work on to improve this situation A cap is a document that describes any enhancement made to Kubernetes the sidecar cap that adds the notion of sidecar containers to Kubernetes has a long history, it was created in 2019 by Joseph Irving and it started a big discussion in the community about the different ways that can be pursued to solve these issues we just talked about I joined the sidecar effort in May 2020 and we really tried to do what is best for the community so we reached out to as much people as possible to make sure what we proposed in the cap worked for all and not only for us and as a sign out by reaching out I found out that several companies today are using a Kubernetes fork just to add the concept of sidecar containers I was really surprised about this but it helped me to convince myself that this is a problem we need to solve in some way or the other and so as I was saying, we invested a lot of time and effort in this we met with these companies but also met with developers from Linkerd and Istio and we did a bunch of other things like make sure the kubelet graceful shutdown cap interacts properly with the sidecar cap we did a detailed analysis of some edge cases that were a major concern for Synode and we found some design issues and bugs that exist in the cap and PR that were noticed in the past two years after all of this, we improved the cap to others all concerned raised by Synode and companies using sidecars in their own fork it was not easy but we found a way forward with reasonable tradeoffs sadly, there was a catch the original cap focused on doing a simple change just adding the concept of sidecar containers and after much discussion and deliberation it became clear that this change would leave out too many use cases that would require significant additional work in the future so in October 2020, together with the Synode community we decided to reject the original cap and work on something completely different to solve more use cases some of the ideas that we might want to explore on a more radical cap include something like use front levels for container startup or termination or even add an explicit container to container dependencies like container A depends on container B so the startup of a port looks like a graph now so we decided to reject this cap and start from scratch also like really from scratch we decided to start collecting use cases for things that are not properly supported in corners today and sketch some high level ideas or preproposals we have done that and we have one proposal by Tim Hawking the idea is to later choose with the community which proposal should turn into a cap looking back we made good progress, we have documented a lot of use cases we can now use to create proposals and I really want to thank everyone that helped by adding the reuse case there this journey also helped to clarify that sidecars are somehow important to Kubernetes and that we don't want to make minimal changes we want something that probably solves the problem and that opens the door not only for bigger changes but also for better support not just fixing the most obvious use cases that need to work but also allow more complex container dependencies within the pod overall this is clear a big very big project and we come a long way but even though it is far from finished now and with this we arrived at where we are today we are at this pre-cap stage Joseph moved on suddenly I don't expect to have the time to move this from the pre-cap stage we currently are at all the way into a cap and later to a GA feature but I spend a lot of time on this and would like to help so let me know if I can help to review some proposals or give some general input luckily Matias from the community has volunteered to continue to drive this forward and I want to thank him again for this and yes so to close regarding sidecar usage we show four problems with sidecars that don't have a reasonable workaround today and this is making some companies fork the cubelete like Pinterest and Lyft how their public fork is unbeatable, Netflix is also a diversion as Manus showed using the virtual cubelete and sidecar seems to be a big win for others too it's a big win for Lingardine and Istio in the software patch it seems Tecton the Google CI CD will also benefit from this as they mentioned in the presentation at KubeCon 2019 especially if we add more advanced features and regarding proven sidecar supporting coordinates we are at this pre-cap stage and we expect a cap out of the proposal to improve the situation here are the links for all the things that we mentioned in the presentation thank you very much we are ready to take some questions now


We're going to get started on two, because we have two more speakers and it's 8.35. So I'm Katherine, one of the second year residents, sorry, second year PGY2's first year ophthalmology resident. So just to jump into it, I'm going to tell a personal story, kind of keep my main topic, quite somewhat of a mystery first. So my story starts in the 1990s. This is me. I was one years old sitting in grandpa's lap. If there's three things that you need to know about my family. Number one, we love Thanksgiving. Number two, we love national parks. And number three, above all else, we love watching the Olympics. And we love watching the Winter Olympics. So my story starts in 1998. And I do remember that the specific year was 1998, because it was the Nagano Winter Olympics. And I, like myself, and other Asian American females across the country were glued to the television screens watching our idol, our champion, Michelle Kwan.  And I remember one particular night we had watched all the ladies figure skating long program and watch Michelle place Silver next to Tara Lipinski. So that night I remember going back to my bedroom and I thought that my vision looked a little bit more grainy. It was kind of everywhere that I looked. It wasn't that I had any visual distortions or any changes in how objects looked, but it looked like I was just looking through this clear kind of staticky fog, almost like the analog TV that still sits in my parents house with these pixelated kind of staticky vision. So of course, the next day I told my mom and I told her, you know, I'm seeing this grainy vision. I'm seeing through it. It's not like my vision has really changed, but I'm not really sure what's going on. And of course, my mom, being a no nonsense traditional Chinese mother, came up with a perfect explanation for my symptoms and she said, Catherine, you've been watching too much TV and that is a result of the pixels on our TV burning themselves into the back of your red nut and you can never watch TV again. And so I was, unfortunately, not allowed to watch the closing ceremony of the Winter Olympics. And I actually have a memory of me being eight years old and my parents had me face away from the TV in the living room so that I could listen to the closing ceremonies. And then they would tell me whenever Michelle Kwan was on the screen so I could quickly turn, sneak a peek and then avert my gaze to further prevent damage of these pixels burning onto the back of my red nut, like looking at the sun too long. Being a very observant eight-year-old, I also asked my mom, you know, if you think this is due to me watching too much TV, why is it that the static is everywhere in my vision, including my peripheral vision? Why isn't it just, you know, a square, the shape of a TV? Like when I look in the sun for too long, I see a circle. Why isn't it that these symptoms are, why is it that they're everywhere and not just kind of in a box? And of course, my mom again had the perfect explanation and she said, well, Catherine, it's because you're sitting too close to the TV and you can never watch TV again, which of course did not really fly well with me. Our short move on to when I was in middle school, this is actually a picture of the community college that I learned how to swim in this pool. And my favorite stroke was backstroke. And so while I was facing on my back, looking up at the sky, I started noticing these very, very kind of faint floaters that slowly drifted across the sky. And as I looked more and kind of concentrated on the more, I started noticing that there were lots of floaters in my vision. Again, not really bothersome, but seemed like the more I concentrated on them, the more I noticed them. Just thousands and thousands of kind of white spots almost looking like bacteria under a microscope. So then in college at UC Berkeley, I was sitting in a lecture hall learning organic chemistry. And I remember looking at my professor with a well lit podium kind of like this one. And I remember looking at him and then as I looked around the room, I would kind of see this ghost-like image almost trailing after him. And it was especially apparent when I was taking notes on a blank sheet of note paper. I would just see these kind of ghost-like images following everywhere that I looked. And again, these symptoms weren't really bothersome to me. I never found them very distressing or disturbing. But I just actually thought that they were symptoms that everybody felt. So then fast forward to residency being at the beautiful Moran Eye Center. I was studying neuro-ophthalmology with Rachel Patel one evening. And I described these symptoms to her. And she thought that I might have visual snow. And that is the topic for today. So visual snow was first described at the clear description of literature was in 1995 by Dr. Liu and his colleagues when they were studying migraine patients with persistent positive visual phenomenon. They also suitly noted that these symptoms seem to be more constant and not really episodic and associated with headaches like traditional migraine with aura. And they describe this as a snow and flickering similar to what was between TV channels. About 10 years later, Dr. Yeager and other colleagues also, those was the first description and use of the term visual snow phenomenon. And then about another nine years later, Dr. Schankin and colleagues, including our own Dr. Kathleen DeGree, were the first to systematically characterize visual snow as a syndrome with proposed criteria for diagnosis using retrospective chart review, retrospective identification of visual symptoms, as well as prospective clinical characterization. So getting into the proposed and diagnostic criteria. So visual snow usually, it presents as this grainy pixelated vision. It's constant and usually present for at least three months on presentation. The presence of two additional symptoms, including palinopsia that includes after images, as well as trailing images and enhanced and topic phenomenon, which can include floaters, as well as seeing those thousands of white dots and lines on a bright blue background or blank, bright white background, as well as photophobia and Nicolopia. And sometimes are you not consistent with typical migraine aura and also by definition, these symptoms cannot be explained by another disorder. So these are some photos that I really, really liked from this paper. The first one shows kind of this grainy vision in dim light at night and then also at room light. There's also these floaters that can be associated with the part of the associated symptoms, palinopsias, including trailing images as well as after images. And then finally, the blue and topic phenomenon with the thousands of kind of light white lines or dots and vision. So if we take myself as an example, I have had these symptoms since childhood, circa the 1998 Olympics, which is when I first remember having those symptoms. Palinopsias, I've seen more as after images and then the floaters and the blue field and topic phenomenon that I described during my backstroke swim lessons. And then I fortunately have never had a history of migraines or headaches and have had normal eye exams. And for me, my visual symptoms have never been distressing. I've never really, I don't really notice them unless I concentrate on them. But just seeing patients in clinic, this can definitely be a wide spectrum for people who find these symptoms very, very distressing just because of their constant unremitting character. And I'm also fortunate that my symptoms have pretty much almost resolved or improved over time. So from the same paper, demographics, men and women were equally affected by visual snow symptoms. 87% of patients also had a headache with 59% also having migraine. About a fifth of patients had anxiety and depression in this comorbid, anxiety and depression in this study. The lifetime occurrence of these comorbidities have been cited as up to as high as 40 to 50% in other papers. And then 25, sorry, 24% of patients had experienced these symptoms since childhood and they were constant from presentation in 40% of patients. In a similar amount, 40% had also noted that their symptoms had progressively worsened. So pathophysiology is still somewhat of a mystery, still unclear, but there are a lot of new hypotheses and very exciting studies that have come out just over the last one to two years. Clinically, a pan-field, positive visual field, phenomenon and the associated symptoms that I had mentioned prior, suggests that there is some kind of a higher cortical hyper excitability. So one of the first papers that I wanted to go over was by Dr. Schencken and it showed a hyper metabolism in the right-lingual gyrus as well as the left anterior cerebellar lobe which was close to the left-lingual gyrus and this was done in 17 patients with visual snow using FDG PET scans and this was matched to controls of healthy patients and this is actually against convention but this is the left side. So this would be the lingual gyrus on the right side and then the left anterior cerebellar lobe and again this was the first kind of, there haven't been any structural abnormalities seen in visual snow but this was more of a functional and the first cited paper of an anatomic foci that could be different in patients with visual snow. Another paper by Dr. Aaron showed in 18 patients compared to age-matched patients with migraine and healthy controls that VP showed in visual snow patients increased latency as well as reduced P100 amplitudes and they localized this to the visual association cortex suggesting that there might be some dysfunction in the visual association cortex in patients with visual snow and just moving along and then the last study that I picked out that I thought was very interesting is that there was Dr. McKendrick did some behavioral studies with visual stimuli in different tests and they saw that in visual snow patients had reduced contrast suppression with certain testing and elevated luminance increment detection and noise and they related that to some kind of again hyper excitability of the occipital or occipital cortex or cortical hyper excitability. So for evaluation in diagnoses of these patients visual snow is a clinical diagnosis and somewhat one of exclusion these patients would benefit from a thorough neuro ophthalmology evaluation but things to keep in mind other things like migraine with visual aura can be overlapping or at least be contributing to some of these associated visual symptoms with palenopsias that can be a side of medication side effects such as topomax or diamox and any patient that comes in with flashes and floaters of course should be retinal attachment and PVDs should be ruled out. Other patients with photopsias in the right clinical history and clinical setting it could be beneficial to test them for perineoplastic retinal degeneration such as car and mar and then any patient with nyctalopia again with the right clinical context could be evaluated for other retinal degenerations in hypovitaminosis A. So treatment mostly in clinic we've seen that reassurance is very powerful and just telling these patients that you have a benign condition you don't have a progressive neurologic or ophthalmic disease can be very very powerful for them and just knowing that this is not something that will progress and worsen has I think most patients cope very well knowing that also if they have associated migraines or overlapping migraines symptoms beneficial to treat those as well as comorbidities such as depression and anxiety and there aren't studies showing evidence-based studies showing that treatment of these comorbidities will decrease visual snow symptoms but just talking to some of our patients getting in with a psychologist and working through their depression and anxiety can also kind of dampen the overall distress they feel from these symptoms and have helped them notice them less. FL 41 tint glasses we recommend to our patients to again dampen that background static and also treat photophobia if that is associated and then medications, pharmacological, pharmacologic options have been more empiric in treatment based on case series and expert opinion but Dr. Vindangan and colleagues recently published a retrospective kind of the first systematic retrospective chart review on treatment effects in 58 patients with visual snow. Lomotrogene was 50 milligrams PO BID was the one that was recommended most often and about one-fifth of patients at least achieved partial remission but a lot of patients discontinued the medication due to side effects same with to a pyramid however Valproate acidosolamide and flunarazine did not show any benefit and if you can see here all patients no patients no patients had complete resolution of their symptoms but just speaking to patients even dampening or reducing some of their symptoms can make this a lot more tolerable. So in summary visual snow is a panfield flickering pixelated positive visual phenomenon it can be associated with migraine anxiety and depression and pathophysiology is still a mystery but there's more to come the current hypothesis that it's kind of an over-excited ability of occipital cortex and visual processing and that one blink and also I just wanted to I was very excited to tell my mom that this was not a result of me watching too much TV. A special thank you of course to Dr. Kathleen DeGree and then also Dr. Ragunta and Dr. Patel and my sources and I will gladly take any questions with the time we have.


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I think I heard it the other day is like the top Two or three things the most stressful things in life is doing that and we're pregnant We're pregnant I'm not already did my job. I just want you to know that I'm here. I love how you look in a supportive way Good we are let's check in with your your office We got the old milk girl outfit right there professional milk girl That's got to come down Even my little lamp guys. I built this little lamp look at it Such a cute little antler lamp. I did this. I looked this up on YouTube one day I was like, man, I got these antlers laying around. I'm gonna make it I'm gonna make a lamp and I did all I did was take some epoxy drill some holes in the antlers And it came out pretty cool. It's a rustic look at the lamp. You can do that, too You got some antlers laying around. I thought you guys might want to know what's going on here in our lives I'd also like to address something right now to you amazing fishing freaks that wanted the favorite big sexy LFG edition rods You guys bought them in like Less than 24 hours there. They were gone. So I apologize Them being out of stock right now.  Tell me what's going on tell everyone at home. What's going on? Well, you're bringing me boxes from up in the attic You give me this empty one and I happen to look inside of it. It's not empty Just go look and say Do you have anything to like swat? I think I might be dead, but I'm not 100% sure Where? Just swat? I'm using my hat. Oh god. Yep. There it is. Is it alive? I don't know It's definitely in there though That is a hundred percent a bat That's a bat. I don't know if it's dead. I don't know if they live alone. Probably not I don't think they do. How do they get in there? I don't know. Babe, I don't know I'm gonna give it a hard kick It's either Hibernating or that is a Texas girl right there She's got her She's got her hood up. Bat cannot touch the pregnant lady. She brought up a good point. She's pregnant So we don't want bats Bat's getting around, biting her. I'm just kidding. It's dead. It's actually like it's like glued It's been dead a while apparently. That was a dandy Next day. Here we are still trucking Time to take down the big stuff Running into a problem. We don't have any food here hardly. Do we have any food honey? We have a few eggs in here.  This is a sample pack Only sample packs if you guys want to try like all the Different kinds of coffee or you're not sure what kind of coffee you might like because these are like more premium coffee Some of them have more robust flavors that some people may not like Some people really like just depends on who you are what your taste buds are. They're 25 bucks free shipping So that's why they did last long and all last time and they come in whole bean and Ground we still got our coffee maker over there So I'm gonna get to make it some right now when you get in your house and you start breaking stuff down like Wow, I've got a lot more crap than I actually realized so that's where we're at right now Gotta get this day going gotta wake up Look at that. Look at that speed goat right there speed goat with the Sun, baby Get you going in the morning This seems to be the favorite for like the general taste bud if you're just you know like your average coffee drinker And then it's just kind of whatever your taste buds are from here my personal favorite Mmm. I don't even know I really like early morning bite, but it's really strong bitter acidic.  See Stephanie really craves coffee, but while she's pregnant She's not supposed to have very much You know I'm gonna break out the freedom roast because it's more friendly on her case buds I like it too, but I mean me personally. I like stronger taste. This isn't a cooking show We're here to get some coffee man. Get this thing going But if you guys want to pick this up, I'll put a link in the description Let bald eagle soar through your veins and blaze your own trail here at free range like that. Whoo Yeah, it gets me fired up Did you just curse on camera? I Just came out sweet my sweet little angel here is making some are you making some tea additionally or is this for oatmeal? Thank you, babe See we only had two eggs left and I gave them to her because she's been growing a little a little fishing freak and I'm gonna eat that pack oatmeal, and then we're gonna drink this except they got it We already packed up her cups. We didn't think about that. We got wine glasses That's classy Put the blue cup down here Give it a whirl can't do it at the same time That's what marriage is for look at that teamwork, huh? Oh, it's not close enough. Yeah It's time to get back to crack down to the wire folks Look at this pretty much my entire Tire life collection most of it's a OSG is probably about 80% Your honest feedback on moving right now Never would have thought that we have that much stuff like my mind. I was like We just have the kitchen closet And then the garage Wow Nothing like married life like moving on Valentine's Day. Yeah, it's Valentine's Day off You want to test your relationship strength? Try moving your tire house on Mmm-hmm, I love you This is the point where you just want to any extra items gone start a fire gone Because we are at the very tip the very tip and we only have just a little bit of room It's at the crunch. We've been playing Tetris all day Now I gotta drive this thing We're gonna drive this thing all the way up to Dallas to the home that we don't even have we're putting it in a storage unit No, we're gonna have to move it again so Hey, you guys want some you guys want some drones? That's where we're at Just have a full blown peric right there. I'm gonna go this way. It's easier Yeah, I'm driving a Mondo rig right now. Holy cow. Look at the mirrors on this shamgun Holy cow. Tensions were high. We're all out high. That's not a good sound like it good you know Trucker movie through the big D right now the most stressful drives my life game face Game face got sun setting Into my glare right now. Can't hardly see Around this thing but dodged big potholes trying to keep up the OSG my phone died rattled It's in the bottom of the truck somewhere things just bounced around It's just been one of those Just got to keep that game face on we still got to unload all this stuff. So Six like like exciting hiccups LSD's here. That's right here to move.  Oh Oh Can't remember his name, but very nice gentlemen. We've been going hard all day Been going hard for many days since we don't have a house now. We have to unload here in a storage unit And our stuff will remain here for a long time got to make sure I get out all the very important fishing items that I might need And all the other stuff like the house stuff really boring stuff to stay here, but I think it is time To sign this one out though. This is what we're doing on Valentine's Day. Just so you guys know But we're just trying to get life ready for for a baby and get a new home and just kind of get this new beginning new 2017 kind of sucked so 2018 I think it's gonna be awesome.  I'm ready to go hard Fishing outdoors vlogging everything for you guys. So Thank you for coming along for today OSG somewhere. I'd have her sign off with you but she's taking care of business in there and Thank you guys for all the support. I need a big boost of encouragement right now in the comments subscribe to the channel For all the other crazy action to follow and I'll see you guys on the next


Hebrews, we'll be looking at verses one through six. So allow me to read these six verses two. And what we're gonna be looking at really is a study on Christian living. And the first verse that we see here in chapter 13 really says it all. So beginning at verse one, Hebrews chapter 13, reading to verse six, the writer writes, let brotherly love continue. Do not forget to entertain strangers for by doing so or so doing, some have unwittingly entertained angels. Remember the prisoners as if chained with them and those who are mistreated since you yourselves are in the body also. Marriage is honorable among all and the bed undefiled, but fornicators and adulterers God will judge. Let your conduct be without covetousness and be content with such things as you have for he himself has said, I will never leave you nor forsake you. So we may boldly say the Lord is my helper. I will not fear what can man do to me. So the writer has been giving a series of exhortations concerning Christian living throughout this particular book and up until the conclusion of chapter 11, he's been giving a great deal of doctrine. Beginning with chapter 12, he began to communicate practical application of this doctrine. We need to remember that much of the New Testament follows this pattern. Theology first and then practice. You have doctrinal instruction and then practical application. It's doctrine to duty. It's creed to conduct and that's because belief produces behavior. You see that in the way that the Lord communicated his word to us. A good example is found in what we call the 10 commandments. You see the first four commandments actually detail man's relationship to God. It's been referred to as being vertical and theological. When you look at those commandments, God said, you shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain and remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. Those are vertical and those are theological. But the next six commandments are horizontal and ethical. They are the practical outworking of the first four commandments. He says honor your father and your mother. You shall not murder.  You shall not steal. You shall not bear false witness. You shall not cover your neighbor's house. You shall not cover your neighbor's wife or his man servant or maid servant, ox or donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbor. So you first begin with a relationship with God and then second, you have a practical outworking of it. When Jesus was asked, what is the great commandment in the law? He said the first is, here all Israel the Lord thy God he is one and you shall love the Lord your God with everything that's within you. And he said there's a second like under the first and you shall love your neighbor as yourself. You have that vertical relationship with God, loving God with everything that is within you. And then you have that horizontal where you love people. And so you see that throughout the scripture. You see it from Genesis through Revelation and there are various places you can look where you'll see that. In first John, for example, in chapter two, verses four and five, John said the man who says I know him but does not do what he commands is a liar and the truth is not in him. But if anyone obeys his word, God's love is truly made complete in him and this is how we know we are in him. And so if I say that I know him, I will do what he commands. If I say that I know him and do not do what he commands, then I don't have a true relationship with God. And John said it's very practical and it's very easy to understand. So theology must be practically expressed through a life of obedience. When John was writing there in first John, he was actually contrasting intellectual faith with genuine Christian faith. And that's because the church has always been filled with counterfeit Christians. They profess verbally but deny practically. And that's why he was saying that a true belief produces a behavior. When you actually have a relationship with God, it changes the way that you live. So in first John three, 16 through 18, he says, this is how we know what love is. Jesus Christ laid down his life for us and we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of God be in him? Beloved, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth. Intellectual faith, which we call a head faith and a said faith versus a changing faith or a genuine one, a faith that transforms you. And so that's why chapter 12 had so much exhortation to the church and that's why in chapter 12, the writer began to exhort the church to run this great race that has been marked out for them because theological knowledge must be worked out in a person's life. So the writer has been instructing the Hebrews to establish their understanding of God because what we think about God determines our relationship with one another and the world that we live in. Chapter 13 begins with practical application and that's what we'll be looking at today and the commands that he gives really relate to love and its expression, its expression amongst people. He mentions its expression amongst Christians and we're to love strangers and prisoners and those in need and that's what we'll be looking at as we look at chapter 13 verses one through six. So begin with me in verse one and notice how he says, let brotherly love continue. Brotherly love, brotherly love is a natural outflow of a Christian life. When you have love for one another as a family of God it reveals that we understand that we are family members that we believers belong together. When you have love for somebody who's not related to you physically but you do have a genuine concern for them and a love for them because they're a believer it demonstrates that you understand what it means to be a Christian because love is the evidence that we have a relationship with God. It actually helps us to know, to have a personal witness, to know that you have a relationship with God and I need to hasten to add that love is not just a feeling, it's not an emotion alone. It's a wonderful, a wonderful feeling and it's great to have. But I have to tell you the truth and everybody in this room probably already knows this but allow me to say it anyway. For me, love is a lot more than a feeling. I mean, Marie and I have been together for a good long time now and I don't know that the feelings are always exactly the same. I mean, sometimes people say, well, what happens if you fall out of love? I don't know that you fall out of love any more than you fell into love. Really, you grow into love and love is really a choice. It's a decision of the will. It's just a growing sense of commitment and feelings are there but not all the time. I mean, I'm sure when she wakes up in the morning and I have that morning breath and I turn towards her and say, hey, I don't think she's thinking I love this man.  I mean, love is just not always feelings and sometimes we think that it is. It's really a commitment. It's a decision of the will. It's a pursuit for the long haul in the same direction with an individual that you're committed to. And there are moments of ecstasy. There are moments of, gosh, I'm so in love and I really understand it and the birds are singing and the clouds part and the sun bursts through and then you run in slow motion and all of that.  I mean, love is very, very practical. But one of the things about love that I appreciate it's one of the ways that God actually helps us to understand that we have a relationship with him because we who at one time could not stand other people actually grow to have a burden not just for those whom we know but we begin to care for people we don't know. We actually begin to have a general kind of love a sense of love for strangers for people that we're not even physically related to and that helps us to know that we have a relationship with God. In 1 John in chapter 3 verse 14 John said, we know that we have passed from death to life because we love the brothers. We know this, it's one of those ways that God gives to us an internal witness a personal witness.  For anyone who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen. It's one thing for me to say oh I love the Lord but he's invisible, I love the Lord but I can't stand you doesn't make sense. So what the Lord is saying through John is listen if you say you love the invisible God then you're gonna demonstrate that by loving those whom he loves. And so there's this personal witness within you. And so he says to us that brotherly love is to continue. Now I want you to notice in verse one here in Hebrews 13 how he says let brotherly love continue that gives to us insight that we can actually stifle that or quench that. It helps us to understand that we can quench love. You see love is what God would have us to have even as I was mentioning to you today as the earmark of the believer. And I was sharing this morning in our Sunday service how that we pursue love and how that Jesus Christ made it very clear that love was the earmark, it was the birthmark it was what really marks us off from the world. See you can belong to a variety of clubs and fraternities and teams and all and it's not required of you to actually love your fellow members. You can be a teamster or you can be in the Rotary Club or you can play on a softball team or whatever you can be in a fraternity, a sorority and it's not required of you to love that person. It's not required of you to do so you simply have to qualify to be part of that organization or that team and you don't have to love but the church now that's something else. In order to be a genuine believer it is commanded of me to love, not a suggestion. It isn't something that Jesus said it would be really nice if you cared about people sometimes if not that's cool too. He didn't say that. He said by this shall all men know you are my disciples if you have love one for another. This is the birthmark of the believer. This is what people will see. It's the evidence that God has transformed my life. It's the change. It's what my mom saw in me when I got saved and she saw that I started caring about people I didn't know and helping people and doing things that ordinarily wouldn't even have passed my mind to do that. Crossed my mind for a moment to help somebody or care for somebody and my mom saw that and she realized that something had taken place in my life.  You see you can quench love. It's possible to stifle the spirit and quench his work and you can consciously refuse to love people. You can consciously do that. You know that and I know that. You can know plenty of the Bible, you can quote it but here comes that person and you see them coming towards you and you don't like them and you start really praying for the rapture. Get me out of here Lord in Jesus name. Come quickly Lord Jesus. We can do that and the writer of Hebrew says no don't quench the spirit. Let God's spirit work in you and reveal in you his grace. Ephesians 4.32, be kind one to another. Tender hearted, forgiving one another even as God for Christ's sake has forgiven you. Let brotherly love continue. Somebody gets hurt in a church and first thing they do is they run some place and they run from their problem. It's kind of funny we as adults try to teach our children to face their problems. You got a problem, deal with it. If you keep running from problems you'll run all of your life. So I would teach my kids that I'd say you got a problem, talk to the person. Doesn't hurt to open your heart to them and ask God to bring a unity, a unification of heart, a restoration. Be willing to do that because if you start running every time you have a problem you're gonna run the rest of your life and there's some people who absolutely run from place to place even sometimes sadly to say from church to church trying to escape their problems and they're always bringing their problems with them because it's their problems. When I was 20 years old, went into the military, was stationed on the east coast in North Carolina and I had some problems here in California and that's when the Holy Spirit began to teach me some things. I was freshly saved and I went from the west coast to the east coast and lo and behold my problems traveled with me because there were my problems. So you can run and you can run and you can run as far as you want but your problems remain with you until they're resolved and if you have a problem with another believer you resolve that problem by calling them up and sitting down with them and saying to them listen, I have to tell you that I've been harboring a grudge in my heart towards you. The Lord has convicted me and I need to ask you for forgiveness and we need to reconcile.  When this church began I was an assisting pastor and another fellowship and the senior pastor and I had a very large disagreement and I left that ministry and began this ministry here about a year after the church was going. I woke up one morning, the Holy Spirit spoke to my heart and said, you need to reconcile.  And he said, can you be in at 10? And I said, I'll be there. And I went to his office and I sat down with him and we had about an hour conversation and we confessed our sins to one another and prayed for one another and embraced each other. And I walked out of that door, reconciled to him, left that, you know, left it behind. You have to do that. You have to do that. So you let brotherly love continue. It's something that we don't stop. It's something that we allow to continue on. Secondly, he says in verse two, do not forget to entertain strangers for by doing so or so doing, some have unwittingly entertained angels. And so when he says, do not forget to entertain strangers, this is an emphasis on the concern of helping other people. A stranger can be a brother or a sister in the Lord that you just don't know, you haven't met yet. It really speaks of a general heart of compassion and ministry. It's a heart to do good to people. According to Galatians chapter six verse 10, let us do good unto all men, especially those of the household of faith. It's this mentality of desiring to do good to others and entertaining strangers as a hospitable heart. He says interestingly enough for by doing, by so doing, some have unwittingly entertained angels. Now, not that every time we help, we may be helping angels. I mean, somebody comes and we help them unless the guy's name is angel and you are helping an angel. But most of the time, I don't know, I was gonna tell you something, but I won't. I want to though. No, I won't, I'll keep going. I'll be serious, I'll be serious. Okay, I'll tell you. No, no. It's just dumb, it just comes to my mind. I've got this crazy mind that sometimes I remember things and they're not in my notes and it makes me laugh. Then I want to tell you and you won't think it's funny, so I should just keep going. But I won't. I was sharing it at a men's conference. And I was telling the men how there was a guy on the radio who was saying, if you send money to my ministry, I will send you an autographed picture of Jesus. This is the truth, I'm not kidding. I will send you an autographed picture of Jesus. And I said, you know, in my church, we have a lot of guys named Jesus, but we call them Chewie. And I have a few angels there too. Now that just pops in my mind and it is. Anyway, let me go back to what I'm trying to say here. It's not that every time you do something, you are entertaining an angel, but you never know how far reaching an act of generosity may go. You never know. And that's the point that he's making. It's being hospitable and caring because in doing so, very often the Lord will reward you for the work that you've done in a variety of ways. Now, in the book of Genesis, we know that Abraham had offered a meal to three men and it turns out it was the Lord God himself and two angels with him. And that's the example that you would find in scripture. But the point is, we are to be generous to all. Now in verse three, he says, remember the prisoners as have chained with them and those who are mistreated. Love again is practical. We identify with those who are in need and we do not forget them. Some Christians had been imprisoned for their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and the church was beginning to go through suffering and all. Remember in chapter 10, remember how he had been writing there in verses 32 through 34. And he had said, recall the former days in which after you were illuminated, you endured a great struggle with sufferings, partly while you were made a spectacle both by reproaches and tribulations and partly while you became companions of those who were so treated for you had compassion on me in my chains and joyfully accepted the plundering of your goods, knowing that you have a better and an enduring possession for yourselves in heaven. Well, we need to identify those with those who are suffering. We need to minister to them because some believers have been imprisoned for their faith in Jesus Christ. And so we should do for them what we would have done for us. There's a practical effect in other words in love because when you're out there ministering to people who are in real need and real hurt, it keeps you from that ivory tower philosophizing that you can do. You know, there are numerous people that I have spoken to over the years and some recently who have condemnation sometimes, sadly to say for the church, they say, well, the church isn't doing enough. The church isn't visiting prisoners, isn't clothing the naked, isn't feeding the hungry, isn't ministering to the poor. And sometimes when I hear that, I wonder, but what are you on a personal level doing? What are you doing? Because we sometimes may see a church institution such as our own fellowship here as kind of like a system, like a system that should be providing for everybody. But we need to remember that the church is made up of individuals. It's made up of people. It's made up of all of us and we gather together in church meetings, but we leave this building as the church. And therefore, if there's somebody with a need, my first response to that person's need isn't to call the church up and say, can I speak to somebody? Because I just saw somebody on the street corner who needs some money. Maybe if I'm led by the spirit and I'm concerned for that person, maybe it's up to me to do that. Maybe God has placed that on my heart and it's not something I'm supposed to call somebody else to do and use the church as some kind of system to help others. Maybe that's what the church is. Maybe that's what I am, a person that God has placed in a certain position so that I might help people when the need arises and I see that. And it simply requires love. It requires a heart. It requires a concern for them. It requires a merciful spirit. And that's an expression of love. So when he says, let brotherly love continue, he begins to give us expressions of it. Do not forget to entertain strangers by doing so some unwittingly entertained angels. Remember the prisoners as have chained with them and those who are mistreated since you yourselves are in the body also. And then he moves on into another expression of love in verse four. Now notice that. Marriage is honorable among all and the bed undefiled. But fornicators and adulterers, God will judge. While speaking of practical expressions of love, it's interesting that he includes the subject of marriage. Now, why is that? Well, it's because God established marriage as a place for the two to become one. And all sexual acts are intended to be enjoyed within the bonds of marriage.  But in God's sight, it is always sin.  And it's unloving to engage in sexual activity outside of marriage. There's an interesting scripture it's found in 1 Thessalonians chapter four verses three through seven. You might wanna turn there with me for a moment. I wanna illustrate this through scripture. 1 Thessalonians, 1 Thessalonians chapter four verses three through seven. Speaking of verse four, speaking of marriage being honorable among all and the bed undefiled fornicators and adulterers, God will judge. When Paul was writing to the church of Thessalonica, he said to them in chapter four, verse three, this is the will of God, your sanctification. That you should abstain from sexual immorality. That each of you should know how to possess his own vessel in sanctification and honor. Not in passion of lust, like the Gentiles who do not know God. That no one should take advantage of and defraud his brother in this matter. Because the Lord is the Avenger of all such as we also forewarned you and testified. For God didn't call us to uncleanness, but in holiness. Interesting. When he says you are to possess your own vessel in sanctification, it speaks of your body. Your body is set apart for the worship and service to God. Paul says you are bought with a price, therefore glorify God in your body and your spirit, which are his, which belong to him. I who at one time, the Bible says in the book of Ephesians, at one time was a slave, I was in the marketplace of sin, have been redeemed by Jesus. The purchase price of my redemption, in other words, what it cost him to buy me out of sin was his blood.  And because he owns me, I am his servant. I belong to him. So I am to take this vessel that has been purchased by God and I am to live in a holy way. I possess my own vessel in sanctification. The word sanctification is a Greek word that speaks of being set apart. It's the same word that is translated holiness. So I'm to have a life that is separate unto God for his service. Now, as a Christian guy, I meet a girl. And as I meet this girl, I become attracted to her. As a guy, general rule is I might find her pretty, attractive, not really interested in an awful lot about her at first, just kind of interested in her because she attracts me. And so I might begin to date her, never going very deep with her, never sharing very much of myself with her, never really too interested in her. But as I'm with her and getting to know her, I'm using all the charm that I can muster. And before you know it, she starts thinking she cares for me. Now, I'm carnal enough to like that, carnal enough to use that to my advantage. Because I know that in the rules of engagement, I know that if I can cause her to care for me more than I care for her, then I can control her. I can have her pretty much doing things that I want as I continue to break her down. I give her enough for her to begin to think that I'm serious about her. Occasionally, I might give her enough to think that I actually care for her. But after a while, because I'm really not convinced that this is the one that I want to end up with, and yet I'm still attracted, I might move into the physical intimacy and encourage her to do so. As we enter into that, she may be yielding to me because I speak things like I love you and I say things like, you know, one of these days we'll get married. She begins to take that as the truth. I'm simply using it because I know she wants to hear that. Then eventually we enter into relationship and I begin to use her until I'm tired of her.  And as the more I'm getting to know her, the more I realize this isn't gonna work and it's not good for me because really it's all about me anyway, isn't it? I mean, it's how I feel. It's if I'm satisfied, it has nothing to do with her dreams or aspirations or feelings. I don't care what she wants to tell me about what it was like to be a little girl or her grandmother's maiden name. I don't care about any of that. Doesn't matter to me because I am keeping things superficial and shallow. I'm keeping it at a level that I can control her. Eventually I've discovered that there are things that I can do to manipulate her. And now I'm convicted because I am a Christian but I've been living a carnal life and the spirit of God is convicting me and I realize I don't wanna be part of this relationship. I have to break it off but she thinks I'm committed to her. She thinks I'm gonna marry her and she's committed herself to me and I'm sorrowful and I'm broken but the fact is that I realize I've gotta get out of this relationship. I call her up, we go to a coffee shop and we drink coffee together and I look her in the eye and I say, I've gotta be honest with you. The bottom line is I really don't feel for you the things that you think I feel. Forgive me but I've gotta bail out on this relationship and off I go. And I'm really sad for a couple of days and then I move on. She is broken. Me, the Lord begins to work on and then finally he breaks through and I'm really sorry for what I've done now and she's really in pain but she's been healed and she's in church and she meets a guy and the guy actually does respect her. He doesn't just say I respect you or I'm gonna treat you like a lady. He really does. He's not using that as a hook to break her defenses. He does love her and he does care for her. She's got this guilty secret because she's had this relationship as a Christian and he's assuming that she hasn't. And then one day he says to her, I have to tell you something.   And now she looks him in the eye and she says to him, well you need to know something if you really want me, you need to know where I've been. And I don't wanna tell you the whole story but I have to tell you this and she opens up and she shares. And the guy looking across that table in her eyes is disappointed and hurt and she's in pain and she's crying and the result has been defrauding your brother because when Paul says you're not to defraud your brother, no one should take advantage of and defraud his brother in this matter. He's saying that when you take that girl's physical love, you are actually ripping off a brother because her intimacy belonged to her husband but you took something that didn't belong to you and you defrauded your brother. You stole from him something that belonged to him.  Girls who will say, God is gracious, he'll forgive me when I get married, my husband will say I understand. And I just think, where'd you get that from? You certainly isn't from scripture. It certainly wasn't taught to you by your mom and dad who fear the Lord. Where'd you get that from? And the answer is some of the books that they read, the music they listen to, the TV programs and movies they watch and the friends they hang around with who have convinced them that it's okay. But God says it isn't. God says that he hasn't called us to uncleanness but in holiness. And so that's back in Hebrews 13 verse four what the writer is speaking about. Marriage is honorable among all. The bed undefiled because in marriage, the marriage bed, that's where intimacy is to be but fornicators and adulterers, God will judge. You see what some call making love. God calls sin and it actually results in judgment. In first Corinthians in chapter six verse nine, Paul said, do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived.  And he says, let no one deceive you. Let no one deceive you. In Ephesians chapter five verses five and six, for of this you can be sure, no immoral, impure or greedy person, such a man as an idolater has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words for because of such things God's wrath comes on those who are disobedient. Sexual sin results in judgment. And he's saying you need to understand that fornicators and adulterers, God will judge. Somebody who continues in the life of fornication and adultery is only evidencing that they don't have a relationship with God. In verse five, he says, let your conduct be without covetousness. Be content with such things as you have. For he himself has said, I will never leave you nor forsake you. So we may boldly say, the Lord is my helper. I will not fear what can man do to me. And here is your secret of contentment. It's a relationship with God. Notice how he says, let your conduct be without covetousness. He's transitioning from sexual parasitism or covetousness to material covetousness.  Others live for material possessions, but both are wrong. And both will not be completely satisfied because those things do not satisfy our deepest inner longings. The love of money is a trap. It's a trap that brings bondage because material desires cannot bring ultimate satisfaction. Ecclesiastes 510, whoever loves money never has money enough. Whoever loves wealth is never satisfied with his income. This too is meaningless. And I hear that that's true. I don't know that. But I've heard that money does not satisfy because some people who have so much, it means nothing to them. They ultimately say it doesn't mean anything to them, and that's true. It ultimately doesn't. And I think that's one of the things that many are grappling with even now, materialism, that desire for more possessions and all. But he said, let your conduct be without covetousness and be content with such things as you have. Man, if you can be content, if you could actually be at peace, then God is doing a tremendous thing for you. My kids look at me as an old man, and they're right in many ways. I am. But they'll walk into the house, and they'll see me. And I'm in my place that I have. It's called Couch. And I'm laying there, and I've got the remote right here. And they think I'm bored. Now maybe Maria's, but I'm not. I'm not bored. And I'll tell them. They don't say that often and have in a few times have given me the impression that they might think that I am. But I'm not bored. I'm actually extremely content. I've got what I want. I don't need anything else. As I'm there and I look at my wife, I'm content. I've got a great wife. When my kids come walking in and I see them, I'm content because I love my kids. And when my grandson comes into the room, everything stops except for him. I mean, he's the center of my universe. And I love that. And I'm extremely content. I'm not one of these people who's kind of like a caged animal just moving back and forth. I've got to do something. I've got to be somewhere. When I'm finished studying and I've done the things that need to be done, I easily can just lay down and just relax. For me, vacations, they're not necessary for me to go some extravagant place and all. I go up to San Luis Obispo. And for me, that's as much as I really want to do. And God has been gracious to me. I'd be honest with you. I've been all around the world and seen many countries and been in many places that people read about in magazines and all. And I've been there. And I have to tell you, Dorothy was right. There's no place like home.  I like being home and just being with that gal. I mean, for me, home is Marie. And wherever she is, I'm at home. And that's just the way it is. Contentment that not everybody has that. One guy's moving from one conquest to another. Another guy's moving from one car to another. They're moving from thing to thing, thing to thing. And they never are content. He says, let your life be without covetousness. Why?  You have a relationship with the Lord. You know, Paul in Philippians 411 said, I've learned in whatever state I am in to be content. In Philippians 419, he said, my God shall supply all your need according to His riches and glory by Christ Jesus, not all your greed, all your need. He'll supply all your need. He'll give to you the things that are necessary. Give us this day our daily bread, is what Jesus taught us to pray. When you just rely on Him and trust in Him and enjoy Him, then everything else falls into place. And that's your master passion. We're Christians. We seek the Lord in His kingdom first. And He said, and all of these things will be added unto you. Just pursue me with all of your heart. And I'll take care of you. You'll have everything you need. And you'll be content with that. But if you're always in a hawk, trying to get the latest, whatever it may be, you're never going to be satisfied. You know, Marie called me up the other day. She was gone.  She says to me, honey, what size shoes do you wear? And I said, well, and I told her. And she goes, oh. And I said, so you're going to buy me some shoes? Because it was my birthday? You're going to buy me some shoes? She goes, don't ask questions. Because she wanted to buy me some new tennis shoes. I'm wearing them right now. Right. You care. But anyway, the other ones are seven years old. I don't care. You know, I can still lace them.  I don't care about those things. She says, do you wear this size pant? I said, well, you're going to buy me some pants too? Don't ask questions. Because I wear the same Levi's, and she gets tired of it. She says, we've got to get you some other Levi's. It's just the basic things. None of that. I appreciate the shoes. I appreciate the pants, of course. Of course. But that's not what makes my world. It's not my world. What matters to me is a relationship with God, and loving my wife, and loving my babies, and people. That matters. Relationships, that matters. Possessions, they perish with the using. You have that nice car, and then they bring out the new model, and you say, man, I should have waited six months. Why did I get this piece of junk?  That one drives itself. I mean, I can take my hands off the wheel, and it backs up and parks. Secret of contentment, I will never leave you nor forsake you. Interestingly enough, by the way, when he says in verse five, I will never leave you. That word, never there in the Greek language, is actually an emphasized word. Literally, it is, I will never, never, never leave you nor forsake you. It's a promise from God. When you're in his hand, he will hold fast to you. Now that matters. That's what matters. Because when you have the Lord, that's all you ever need. And no Christian can ever live effectively for the Lord if they suffer with covetousness, because they'll never have enough, and they will never be satisfied. But if we are risen with Christ, we are to seek those things that are above, where Christ sits at the right hand of God, we are to set our affection on things above, not on things on the earth. Because we used to have a saying in the early days of the Jesus movement, because it's all gonna burn. Because we're just passing through. We're just passing through. And we used to say that it's all gonna burn. None of it makes it through. It's all gonna burn. So embrace the things that matter. Let brotherly love continue, and let love be the earmark of your life.


It's like freaking being around the ultimate athlete in the ultimate PhD athlete You know, it's just crazy minds of people that are driving forward What is you know, how does that fit into what you guys are doing because yeah? You're running a business you have all this awesome efficiency at this high technology But I think for you the standard is a little bit beyond that Yeah, I bring up, you know born to be and what your body's meant to be and born to be healthy What does that mean? What is our natural state of health? Yeah, well, I think unfortunately we're far from it If you say what we're born to be you can you can look back at a great book called manthropology It's in the end topology You know we can see that I mean and I'm just saying this as again the dexa scans a humbler We're probably as strong as some females back back then, you know I mean and and and that kind of you know it kind of you know There are probably many females of those of those Eras that could beat us an arm wrestling, you know It's just we have kind of digressed if you will in our health and especially our strength And and that's unfortunate now we can you know what even if we're Delta bad genetic hand we can reverse some of that So don't get discouraged I just want to you know kind of give perspective that you said are we are we close to where we're born to be and I Think the answer there is no, but we we can make strides, you know back back towards it And then you also said something about you know Gosh just being around great around great minds our whiteboard sessions that we have every Monday are just a lot of fun and It does look like a beautiful mind in our our war room if you will sometimes where we just have all sorts of ideas and you know, we're You know, I think all of us I shouldn't say all of us But a lot of us are you know kind of this combination of right-brain left-brain to where we like to think creatively like what's next? But then we also like to come back to the science and the research and say well does that work And we have a great balance and chemistry right now, and I'm just you know, I'm thankful that we've got that going And and you know something like payload effects for example is a great opportunity for people to check out What is this ancestral idea this ancestral lifestyle? It's not literally going back to the cave in the spear although, you know, there's some there's some goodness if you will to being out in nature and things like that but But it's but it's checking out What are the practical steps if you want to get back to what you're saying born to be? What are some practical steps kind of where the rubber meets the road of trying to get back there? And it basically relates to kind of a nutrient-dense whole foods diet Some call it paleo, but again, there's there's even derivatives of that. I don't like to get stuck in the minutia and then also, you know some type of Exertion that relates to resistance training and again if you have the right tools or great tools perfect But you can still do it with with body weight and with other lesser means and lower-tech tools if that's all you have access to Yeah, man. I mean it's interesting. You brought up that let's say females Man over 10,000 years ago. Yeah that were growing up in kind of a tribal Culture or society or even tribal cultures now that their strength capacity is more than would you say the average man or even guys who work out in the gym? Yeah, I don't know. I mean I'd have to go back and look at some of the That book as I referenced but but I think that an average female then is stronger than an average man now I will definitely say that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's a low average But you know, that's interesting because like You know, I think with a lot of stuff with paleo and a lot of stuff with you know Is we're getting into this and even in your niche of efficient exercise We get so caught up in the efficiency and we don't get back into what it was really meant to do So I see a lot of guys in the exercise or fitness industry It's almost like we're getting so efficient that we miss the point And you know, we almost get obsessive with like all this sort of stuff and we you know get more stressed out and Yeah, you know, I haven't heard you talk too much But man when I hear Skyler and Keith and you know, really what's coming out of stuff at the paleo effects and everything really coming out of your Camp yeah, it's all sharing this message that we have to be like entirely, you know Healthy in a way and I remember asking Keith years ago years ago. I mean at least three years ago, you know What is what is stress? Yeah, he's like man the body, you know from what we know now You know give real humble answers like from what we know now we believe that stress is anything that is stress That's gonna throw off your nervous system when your nervous system is thrown off You're not thinking the same your speed isn't the same everything about you is taken down to a different Expression I guess you could say and that's where a lot of us are functioning on which is bummer. Yeah, yeah Well, yeah, I mean anything yeah exercises is a stress in and of itself, right? It's a stress that if done properly produces a better result But nonetheless, it's a stressor to the body and a lot of people don't like to think about that now Conversely, you're absolutely right. There's some kind of you know high-intensity training advocates Which nuts and bolts of high-intensity training has great premises. It's directionally accurate. Don't get me wrong But there are people that will take that to the extreme Just like a paleo diet for example, they can take that to an extreme Where you know, it's not about working out for 10 minutes a week in the right way and then sleeping Sitting on the couch eating Cheetos, you know, I mean you have to move you should be doing some other things and then obviously just keeping your mind active And again, what what this type of workout has done for me personally is it's you know, it's allowed me to be an entrepreneur It's allowed me to be a family man. It's allowed me to do so many more things because I Mean, I just have to be honest. I don't love the weight room like I used to and that's okay I mean, I still obviously I'm very invested in it and invested into developing the right tools, but But it just doesn't quite do it for me if you will like it like it used to that's that's totally okay But I'm excited if you will buy other things and so I think we have to discover that and to me the exercise done Properly is this this kind of springboard if you will and in the lifestyle of kind of like a paleo ancestral Diet lifestyle is just a springboard to allow you to be a free thinker to be you know Kind of what your what as you're saying born to be it gives you more energy more strength more endurance kind of everything really if you're doing it It's going to propel you if you will to be a better man better person