Hello, my name is Christopher Thrice and I'm a postdoc at the Allen Thuring Institute and this is a presentation on how I converted a research project to my first PIPI release and all of my mishaps in doing so, which I hope are things people might find useful. So hello, just a bit about me, I was taught C++ in high school, but swore off programming I crawled back in as a master student on the project which eventually became my PhD in sociology on how a community called Phytonet changed geographically over time and the GeoJenga project was absolutely crucial for that. I am now very privileged to be a postdoc at the Allen Thuring Institute, but I also am enlightened as an artist in theatre, film, jazz gyms, and photos particularly of late like this one. So, goals of this project, presentation, pros and cons of rearranging project for public release, quick cutter templates and how they can help not just from Python but other projects, options for testing across standard libs and pie test, etc. The continuous integration options like Travis and GitHub actions, documentation, like Sphinx, read the docs, deployments on PyPy, releasing on Zenodo and not getting that confused with Sotero as I have many times. Anyone who knows the book can hopefully see why, not just sound. So I'm going to start the clock because I don't have two screens and I messed up ordering an adapter for one. So rearranging a project for public release. So this came out of work I've originally as an RA on, on querying the company's house and charities commissioned in the UK or networks of board members attached to companies and charities. It's not the point of the talk but those network structures technically known as bipartite or bimodal networks are a research interest that made a lot of use of the network X library. So that was one of my crucial dependencies in my requirements.txt and when I rejoined the project year and a half later, excuse me, I just foolishly reinstalled all the packages without keeping track of their versions, excuse me. So that was a terrible decision. The network X migration guide kindly keeps an update of how difficult it would be to reconstruct a pickle file and I had foolishly had a whole bunch of pickle files wrapped around attributes to classes, etc, etc. It was a terrible rabbit hole. I didn't know what to do. So I have an awful old pi c file to remind myself not to pickle like that ever again. And factoring for me was pretty much required. So that was my initial bias. But I also was quite excited about the prospect of doing something that was open source. So software is really how I learned to code because my memories of high school, I mean, maybe some of that was kind of underneath and helped me get going. But that's what got me excited about it, particularly Django unit testing. I really like unit testing, but the prospect for other people to use it like my colleague, but other, you know, future collaboration and this warm glow feeling, which I like from that particular publication. So the current state package called UK boards, it's very alpha command line and just faces utter mess. It's all my fault. Anyway, lots to still fix, but it's partly how I managed to get this postdoc. We've got two papers under review from stuff we've created through that colleagues approach for further collaboration. I feel much more complicated as a programmer. And I was really excited when I finally had a DOI from Zenodo. And it's much easier to maintain and install for new projects than certainly what I started with. So there's just a little flavor of what came out of that project. Those are companies that share board members. So hence their links on that geographic network. So cons of taking it to Pi Pi, taking a huge amount of effort, especially the first time may expose bad shortcuts that you had early in the project. You may need to be really more rigorous about quality and maintenance of your work. You might need to separate code out for paper that's about to be under review. And your colleagues may not initially understand maybe in the social sciences, this is more of an issue than the hard ones. But the advantage is that it can be really helpful and it can be much easier to maintain, easier to reproduce results, easier to add features to and more directly citable, perhaps in its own right or attached to a paper. I kind of cheated and did that at a conference, but I certainly still feel that warm glow and it's nice to have something direct to refer to in an academic context. So how do you start? Basics that you need, you need to make sure that you've got something to work with. Get repository or mercurial still maintained, I think is at least an option, but it's probably going to have to be a shift to get for all of these other features out there with GitHub, at least to start out with and due to ease package folder structure, just make sure you got some at least a module with an in it. Realize that may be really obvious, but if you're using, I don't know, Jupyter or I Python a lot and weren't bothering with, you know, importing from package, it's just some basics you got to get used to. If you're using data in your package, importantly, it was going to be crucial. That's going to come up a lot. Dependencies. So you need to specify your actual dependencies, having a virtual ENV or poetry, ENV, all of these things to keep track of what you actually need in the correct versions. You'll need a list of your co-authors, your authors, your collaborators, what's open source license you want to use, and some sort of read me in a format that you can stick with, whether it's restructured or marked down, et cetera. So the data specifically is the data that you've been using and like to include in the package. Is there any questions of it being sensitive? Does some of it need to stay away prior to publishing a paper that's under review? Is data collection a project worth citing separately? And is there data in the Git repo that's just massive and you really should have it small so it's easier to maintain? Stuff like flat flies, those are easy to maintain or trying to minimize that. So you're just querying stuff from the public API that might change your time if it's your test basis. So a person comes on that. It's more tricky for me, at least, where things like SQL dumps. I got a bit of a rabbit hole in versions of PostGIS prior to three and kind of dumping and then re-importing pickle. I'm going to stay away from that. I had a project involving LiDAR with proprietary software. I have no idea how I would try and deal with something like that if I was going to release a library. So how to include import, keep it small, easier to maintain. Minimize essential is just for running tests and then flag tests that require more or really slow. Again, using import lib, it's just you can backport it. I wish I'd done that. My cheat was to just have a little Python module with lots of comments I could import, but that's probably makes it a lot harder for anyone else to use. So if your project's already get repo, it's worth double checking your get ignore. Be strategic in adding only what you need is a public library. Again, stuff with the academic paper keeping separate can be complicated. It's just worth flagging out repeatedly. So that's all the academic stuff, but authentication can also be scary, you know, whatever the project. A few have accidentally got usernames, passwords, etc. You really should use something like a .env file. It's a nice library for that. There are libraries out there that are trying to kind of keep track and prevent you from adding more keys, etc. I'm no expert on that. I was trying to look that up. And also just should be obvious, but if you've just deleted something that you haven't actually purged it from your GitHub history, your Git history, then you'll need some tools for that. I just started over from my Twitter. So example .env, which shouldn't be in a Git, you can make nice references to stuff that's been defined prior. If you include the command line interface, then you can just set these by command line and then maybe use some password management systems alongside if you're going across multiple servers or whatever. But it's also worth going down the hole with colleagues and making sure their contributions are accredited, ensure they're comfortable with what's included and, you know, include their commits if they actually, you know, were writing code, stuff like their ORCID number. All of these are helpful for giving credit where credit is due and but also double checking the password sensitive data in the Git repo. So if you have a structure like this, that's a really good starting point. But a lot of this can be kind of provided by a cookie cutter anyway. But vaguely having versions of elements of this is a really helpful starting point if you can. So other things worth remembering relative imports rather than absolute imports, same thing with data files, easy if it's, you know, just really simple to start out with. Same thing with formatting, right? So I decided to go for public release, had some basic tests to work with. And so here we go for the templates. So that whole concept, as far as I understand, was the genius of Audrey Feldroy Greenfeld. I hope I pronounced that correctly, very sorry if I haven't. So it's a whole Python, not just Python, just code project structure template might not even have to be code. It's a shell script with config options, names, emails, all the different, you know, basics you'd need to cover all of the boiler plate that a project would need to get started, and then be able to deploy and include a whole bunch of crucial things like documentation and tests.  And many don't include Virtually and V, but, you know, that some do. There's lots of options out there. Good start from Cratch, be pretty cool if you manage. You can learn a lot, like learn some Scratch and try that. But it can take a lot of work. It may be hard to estimate how long it could be hard to maintain consistently across docs and code for other potential collaborators. And that would have been too hard for me. Poetry is another nice thing to be considered. It does actually generate a very simple default specifically for PyTest. Flit can also help with deploying and a bit of managing. Pippie and V can also be helpful for managing applications, but it's specifically not designed for libraries. It doesn't provide any PyPy deploy ease. PyScaffold is a project that came across very recently. It seems to be very mature and quite well suited to some of this, but I didn't have enough time to try that out properly, but worth looking at. And it has very recently switched to PyProject.toml. So it might be worth looking into. So installing Cook Cutter like many Python packages, but meant for command line work. You've got a couple of different options. Kavex is kind of a cool one. If you want to go for Kanda, you just need Kanda Forge. Obviously, you know, different operating systems have some others. I just go for the cookie cutters from Direct Git Repos rather than kind of a local copy. I like to get the latest. Let's hopefully also test it. You can have shortcuts for different Git repositories, GitLab, GitBucket, and Git Hub. You can even go for specific commits or zips, test the questions from the cookie cutter you're interested in before you make your final decision. So like stuff like your package name, you want to make sure that's actually available on PyPy. So I end up kind of doing a couple of test form filling in before I kind of go for the final one. Search for package names to help. I ended up renaming my package after I had issues trying to collaborate with it via R in a package called Reticulate. So I had to get rid of that hyphen. Simon Willisons, one of his many genius projects, was a cookie cutter for fixing a project. Thank you, Simon. And it's, like I said, worth finding out how you want to answer the question. So an example with the original of it all. So it defaults to options like choosing between unit tests and pie test. But I think you have to stick with Travis. You've got, you know, different open source options, talks for, you know, which range of Python you want to cover, flaking covered by default, Sphinx documentation via read the docs and choose bump to version for managing increasing versions. Nice little options include PyApp for managing other dependencies, whether you want to include a command line like click or arg parts by default, stuff like black, which can help with formatting. So this is the kind of setup that'll come out of something like that. No, it doesn't actually include the requirements or test requirements that you specify. Those are just requirements.txt and requirements dev. But it fills in this form in a lot of ways. It makes the whole deploy process a lot easier. But like I said, it's not synced with requirements. It requires a GitHub username. So really only works initially on GitHub, but you probably convert it to another one, specify for Travis.yaml doesn't include any new stuff I like like mypy or preconfig, and there's no option for Zenodo. Some of the documentation links are a bit out, and I'd probably should try to help out with that. So here's a way of demonstrating how that works. So all of my test versions of this. So right. Yes, to make sure I've got the latest version. I'm just going to be quick on this. Flight variation. So you can see how this changes. Just taking the defaults as a demonstration at the moment. Note that my PyPy username ends up being based on what I put down for GitHub. There's lots of ways in which these customizations play out. Yes, I'll use PyTest. Yes, I'll use black. Yes, I'll use PyPy badge. And I'll go for click this time. Yes, an author file, which helps me site what my colleagues have done. So that just creates that folder. And then for example, if you look at setup.py, again, you'll see something very similar to what I said before, but now the requirements and test requirements are at least filled in some of the basics. So it's a pretty nifty way to get started. Right. So out of that, go back up here. Keep going. Here's that same structure. If you want to scroll through and look at details. Here's another one specifically for academic stuff. This is out of a research group in the Netherlands, the eScience Center. They have these whole fancy next steps things that'll create tickets within a Git repository, GitHub specifically, very academically focused.  I'll show that in the demonstration. And it specifies the citation.cff format for helping the citation. It's a very helpful thing in an academic context. As for the project itself, I found some of the configuration a little bit complicated. The fact that it's pyproject plus setup.py plus setup.config. Setup.config seems to have the majority of the options. Maybe they're hoping to simplify that at some point. This is just some of the details of how setup.config works and manifest.in. Only pytest is an option. It's got some nice extra plugins for maintaining the code quality, but no mypy, no pre-commit. So just to give you a little demo here. So try to be a little bit quicker this time. Yeah, that makes more sense. So again, it's a form to fill in. Just do the defaults for the moment. Fun. This is what would be keywords in a research paper that might come out of this. Code, all caps, version. Your university, for example, might be worth putting down there. Full name, email, copyright holder. So it might be the university that you work for. This is it's kind of academic kind of conduct stuff. All of these things are again very academic specific. And that can be quite useful. And just to kind of demonstrate where all of the majority of the configuration stuff comes out is down in this. So this is where that dev thing I mentioned in the previous slide. So anyway, gotta keep going. Don't have enough time. And have a look there. So the last one I looked at is really fancy kind of the newest and the coolest bunch of libs to include uses poetry. It's just not academically focused. That's why I wanted to provide that contrast. So they suggest using that specific checkout and documentation but probably get away without doing that. Again, lots of defaults. You can have a friendly name with a space. Author, email, again, all these expect GitHub. Let me see your license options. I really appreciate the development stages option there. I think that's really helpful to be upfront about. And then just by contrast, it's all on the project. So all of that gets filled in here. Very extensive list of actually what's happening in terms of dependencies, et cetera. Anyway, so that's the last of our options for today. Again, you can have a look. Knox files, another option. I looked at quite a few other ones. Here's another research, I don't know, general purpose. Make some other options like make docs rather than sphinx but also uses pre-commit. I'm a fan. Here's another science specific one. There's an interesting lightning talk about it actually. And there's a recent fork of that that actually supports GitLab. It's the only GitLab one I've found so far. That's not quite sure. I've seen some on GitLab and not as academically focused. There's some other kind of interesting new stuff. Again, Simon Wilson's innovation plays out with some potential ways of generating templates using cookie cutter. But as a one-click on GitHub, kind of fascinating, inspired by this. I guess there's probably more of those to come. Those are quite recent. Here are some other ones I came across but didn't have specific configurations for deploying to PyPy. The government one was interestingly concerned very much about security. So the basics are the motivation for cookie cutter. Py package. Here are three options that are covered. Hopefully those links will help you make use of whichever one you find useful. So whatever you do, you're going to need some virtual ENV environment to be able to run and test this stuff out and make that reproducible for others. So here are the different options creating that virtual ENV. So we fancy your condor, poetry, PyPy ENV options, all for local areas for testing installs. And then you should probably have a Git repository sorted out. Having it match to the project slug, for example, so that these package names resemble what's the source control management name and using main rather than master by the way. Branch. So PyApp is something I'm going to come into later but it can be unfortunately not used with PyProject at the moment. But it can be used. But GitHub dependabot can be used with PyProject.toml. Testing. So have you written a test before? They're really helpful. So I write loads of them probably not enough. So here the basic unit tests come with Python. The basic class structure involves a setup and a tear down to kind of rearrange so that you can kind of automate the similarities between a bunch of tests in the same class. It can be a little bit clunky but I like how clear it is. So this is an example from an early version prior to refactoring that you need this basic main thing to kind of help with executing these together. There are other ways to kind of ease that. Basics of coverage, how many lines of your code are actually tested. The speed at which the tests are run. So I'm thinking a long time is worth kind of decorating them to indicate what's quick and what's slow. That can help you filter out when you want to run them. And if you actually have errors in your tests, they can take a huge amount of time and seem like a waste and can be a bit of a heartache. But I think it's still worth it. Note this is a way of skipping. You can have skip if conditionally on ways of kind of filtering the tests. PyTests is also incredibly popular. It means that you don't have to have these complicated different types of assert statements. You can just use a start statement. You don't have to put in classes. You can just have functions, copious plugins, ease of writing fixtures. Once I figured it out, I was really confused initially, but this organization then can just be passed as a parameter to a test function and just automatically reconstructs that. And then you just assert at the end. Note that's just a function rather than a class. I was really confused by a variety of elements of initially and it was Conf test and scoping that finally kind of clued me into how this works. And this is just an example of one I created so that I would not run tests when I couldn't based on my IP address. This is another thing I did a way of replicating API queries in a test. I don't have time to go into detail. Sorry. So there are many plugins. These are just a few. I'm afraid I'm going to have to keep going quite like some of those extra kind of sugar elements. Tox is a way of automating running these across different versions of Python and a whole bunch of other things to check. There's some competitors to it. But all of those things together are being able to maintain and be happy with what modifications you've made to a project. And then I think those are basically the basis on continuous integration. So this is a way of basically automating doing all of that every time a change is made through changes at the GitHub or potentially GitLab. Definitely GitLab is an option repository. So if you register with PyApp, for example, or GitHub Dependabot, those are things that will help keep track of changes to dependencies and help kind of... It's a great way of kind of automating a whole bunch of things to make sure your code is good. Travis is one of the older historically more popular ones and has been a default for a lot of the cookie cutters. But they're kind of increasingly shifting towards GitHub. Some of that will come up later. So this is what comes out of the kind of standard configuration. And it'll include this deploy thing to help with getting things up to PyPy. We'll cover that a bit later. To actually sort out the configuration for Travis, initially it seemed like you have to do it by the command line by a Ruby in their little library. We'll cover some other options for that later. GitHub is similar, but you kind of do that all through the GitHub interface. There might be clone line options. I'm not 100% sure on all of that. Probably are, I should say. And it allows for a much wider range of stuff rather than fitting it all within a YAML, the whole workflows folder. This is just an example of running tests that I've got up. And yeah, it's kind of asking for a considerable lot of detail and you can name which sections it's going through. I think there's a whole lot more that can happen with that. So these are both very useful. There's a whole bunch of other competition out there. Might be worth checking out too, but generally continuous integration is really helpful. So both of them are worth considering and employing and how you're getting a project done. So documentation is really, really helpful. I sometimes use it to kind of think out what I really actually want to do and then write it down in code form. And it certainly makes it much easier for people to understand your project and make use of it. I'm just focusing on read the docs and spanks because there are others. Continuous integration then just very kind of easily fees in to read the docs because you can of course just use your GitHub login to create a login on read the docs and it will automatically have an option to then just pull in a repository that you've got and provided you've got basic configuration like one of these cookie cutter templates that will just set up creating the documentation for you. You can have a whole bunch of configuration options like math jacks, etc. They're lovely. They're really useful. I wish I could cover more about this. I just don't have enough time. So push it to pi pi finally. So basic thing of registering for a website like many you'll need to register a key both for the test and for normal pi pi. The key token has a scope. So if it's for test, it just covers everything either way. But if it's for the main kind of pi pi, then you can have the scope specific to a package. Save those keys somewhere safe. Again, you can't include them directly in the repository, but we'll get to that package password management can be really helpful. So it's helpful kind of looking through some of this before you go all in. But there are some other tools that can help you do that. I'm going to focus on Travis for this because it's what I use. Oh, I had some issues. There was this whole transition when Travis kind of changed hands. And that's one reason I've used GitLab a lot more. So once I had to kind of rearrange my configuration, this little command line tool, I just couldn't get it work. The username password, I still don't know how to reconstruct that. And my attempts to find out did not work. So again, there was this kind of acquisition, a lot of people kind of changed jobs. But the way you can do this is you set up a GitHub token with the following privileges. There's a link to which hopefully will keep that up to date. And with that token, you can get that sorted. Then you can deploy with that kind of line and note the deploy.password because that's basically taking advantage of that bit of what's provided in the cookie-cutter package, then fills in the password secure with the new encrypted key, which shouldn't have the pypy prefix like the key. And that should be what you need. But as I've tried to show in that configuration file, we're just looking at the test.pypy, not the direct pypy. And what I've actually done since then, since I first started doing this, is just shift to keys that I register within Travis, quite similar to the options within GitHub. Think also GitLab. So you can just define environmental variables, but make sure they've got underscores rather than hyphens. That was a hilarious issue. It took me a while to sort. So now I can just put that password there. And then it's not within the repository. So now I could actually test a deploy with my bumped version, which we mentioned before. But wait, that's just for test.pypy, how we actually get it up on pypy. So you could go for having different branches like staging production, but I've decided to go with this sort of conditional deployment. So I'd sort of deploy in order. So if it manages to pass test.pypy, then I go for main.pypy. Again, if you've been messing around with putting passwords and authentication keys and stuff, it might be worth going through that repo cleaner I mentioned earlier. So assuming you get all that up and you're happy with it, you can then do that bump command. The parameter, sorry, I just don't have enough time to go through all this, is indicating what kind of version jump it's going to be. So it could be major or minor or patch, those bits of the number. So this is a patch that would be going from 0.1 to 0.1 from 0.1.0. This adds a tag at that number. And then with that, you push all of those changes first, and then you push including the tags to GitHub, and that should run the deploy. So it'll try to deploy to test, then it'll try to deploy on pypy. And then hopefully you'll have a package up, and you'll get a copious bunch of logs and Travis, if it doesn't. Again, whether it's helpful to have different branches for managing that, more sophisticated, I like adding a whole bunch of other stuff that's not included in this, but some of the other cookie cutters like pre-commit. These are some lovely libraries. I like Black, I sort, Flake 8, and MyPy. You can also, if you're finding this whole thing too difficult, you can have a local.pypyprc with your authentication as a backup. But that doesn't easily kind of continuously integrate blah, blah, blah. So it's hard to set up and hard to fix. At least for me, I find the safety of test.pypy really helpful. And after kind of wrangling around, my Travis seems to work fine. It might switch to have actions in the future, or one of the many others. So not quite done yet. Sorry. Academia is still to come. So academia and software development is a kind of interesting tangle, citing actually code specifically for research or in academic context is a kind of interesting and unfortunately hard problem. Here's an interesting paper specifically about that. And I think it's even harder if you get outside the harder sciences. There's a project on citation file format. Here's some interesting posts about that. And Zenoto is one of the big firms in the fall. So Zenoto is a citation option. It'll generate the DOI that you need. And it very easily connects to GitHub. But at present, no other repositories like it lab, unfortunately, it's under development. As far as I can tell by the European Open Air program, it's quite impressive and operated by CERN, and can automatically pull from a GitHub repo. So that's the easiest way to create an account. Again, just like read the docs to your GitHub account. So they're just tied together. I guess that's probably an OAuth situation. Go to that part of your profile. You should just see all your GitHub repositories listed there. Click the one you want. It'll sort of switch, drag, click situation, and it'll generate a new release, which you can then fill in a whole bunch of forms to talk about the details. And you've got a DOI. It's great. There is a much more customizable way by actually directly editing a citation.sif file that you need in your Git repository. And then that, then Zenoto would then copy from that. I got super confused filling in. The CFF version is not your package version. It is the format version. Don't get that wrong. That was hilarious. But this is what I'm currently looking at at the moment, including my colleague. I think I need to customize this more, but it gives you a bit of an idea. I think it's better if you can actually publish a paper as well. Certainly, citations generally kind of increase readership, increase understanding, give you a bit more credit. And they can also be a clear way of indicating exactly what kind of contributions individuals had. There are details in Zenoto that aren't currently covered in the citations, that CFF format, like funding, but they're worth figuring active development, worth getting involved. Also note to self, I should do that and see if I can be contributing. So almost there should have had a seventh inning stretch or something, if anyone gets that reference. So taking an academic project and polishing it for release is really hard. At least for me, Python cookie cutters is essential. I don't know what I'd be doing without that. GitHub dominates the cookie cutter options, but I found, I found, but I think it's worth considering GitLab at least. PyTest is great. The only option for many cookie cutter templates. Read the Docs is a default documentation system. It's really easy to get that going. There are some competitors, but yeah, it helps. Travis, I found hard with that whole migration thing, but it still seems to be working okay. I'm slightly worried I may run out of hours on that. That's another big question mark. GitHub Actions is another option, and I'll probably go for one of the more extensive cookie cutters in the future. So thank you so much for your time. And here's some of my references and my dangling footnotes, which are probably too out of context to make any sense. Thank you. It's okay. Thank you. So I see someone typing. So let's give them a minute to see if there is questions. And then we can continue. Two things to mention while we wait for questions is one is this drive will be offline for the next slot because we have a keynote. And then after the talk, you can go and talk with Griff in the chat, right? So he's going to be available in the roaming matrix, and you can ask questions. So okay, I have a first question in a second. Can I say a few words about the very last part? I'm not sure what Paolo is dealing with that. Maybe why you were here. My main reference is Zotero. What I was going to cover is the last part. This is maybe double check if that's what they're referring to. But okay. But the reason, yes. Yeah. So yeah. So Zotero is, oh, sorry, not Zotero. Sonodo. Oh, man. Sorry. That's one of those days. Yeah. So in an academic context, Zotero, which is for managing citations, Sonodo is for managing code that is released so that you can cite it. And sorry, that's me today. Is in that silly state, unfortunately. But yeah. So I think it's a quite nice service. I don't know of a better one, to be perfectly honest. I think GitHub is trying to, as a potential project for managing that. But yeah. Sorry. I was going to then try to log in and show you what a demonstration of my release of a library on that is. But yeah. It's a very useful tool. Then you can tag Git commits to that.  It can be quite cumbersome to set up. And I think, unfortunately, it's very specific to GitHub at the moment. And I can't remember if, for example, you're using GitLab for your project. I think they were a bit behind in enabling that. But I highly recommend it if you're hoping to make it citable. And that was that was my approach. And yeah. So last question. No, it's okay. So can you recommend any resources related to pipe pipe project creation? Yeah. So cookie cutter, which is literally what I was about to demo here. If I have more time. I think it's an excellent option. And it, you know, this is an example of how it will construct a template. And so I'll go with PyTest for this. Click is quite a nice command line management option. And then what I've now generated is let's see, a new project. So you end up with this kind of folder hierarchy. So that's including a test folder, for example, which conveniently has just already a pre-constructed import for including tests of click. And, you know, basic version control, like expectations, what should be ignored. Let's see. Get ignore, for example, you know, it's a it's a very nice and it's kind of the version. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, no, let's just stop now because we are going to overrun a lot. So I want to say thank you very much. Thank you for being presenting here. And I hope you enjoy the rest of the conference. Have a nice day. Thank you.


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We'll present World Waterman as the great skilledest lead. A walk with a twin, and a chat with his niece. Come out in the living room, Monty, and sit down. Uh, I think I'd better. Tween, you wore me out. Sorry, Ronnie, it's your new-met tie. It's only down to my knees. Guess he's been watching Tarzan pictures on television. What's he doing now? He's fixing his toy truck. Investigate. I don't want him to break Bronco's new hammer. This is the second one he's had to buy we need to break. Little Ronnie, broke a hammer? No, Linda wrecked the first one. Oh? She saw it off the handle. Hey, excuse me, Auntie. Here, go right ahead, my dear. Why don't you look at a magazine? Yeah. Look at the stack of home magazines. She reads all these, she never finds time to run her home. Yeah, they should have colorful eyes to these things. Two looking cake. Two looking girl putting on the icing, too. Interesting article. Helpful hints make happy homes. Say, written by a wooden span. Helpful hints make happy homes. I'll put Ronnie and his hammer outside, Auntie. Yeah, good. Remind me, I'm reading a very interesting article. The one you and Bronco might well look into. Oh? Says, Helpful hints make happy homes. Oh, well Bronco and I don't need any hints for happiness. Well, here's an idea you can use. A suggestion box in the home. Just like they have in some office. A suggestion box? You know, you see ways to improve things around the house? Drop your suggestion in the box. But we don't need a suggestion box. Well, I can think of a few things around here that could be improved. Oh? What's Ronnie up to now? Oh, he's pounding on the downspout outside the window. Jesus loves noise. Now, you were saying something about suggestions around here? You might buy Ronnie a rubber-nosed hammer. I'm sorry if you're not here, Ronnie. Yeah, I have a good suggestion for Bronco. Oh, really? He often leaves his car out at night. Cars should be in grudges. And while I'm on the subject line. Yes? Well, I'm going to clean out some of these old magazines. Looks like a doctor's office. All right, and you can help. Me? You like the suggestion box idea. So, well, I'd like to give you the magazine. Well, thank you. I'll try the idea in my house. That's a good suggestion. Excuse me. Excuse me. I'll go take the watch off the line. You're good. You just put it on the line. Yes. I'm going to stay right here and trash it out. And I want no interruptions. Okay. I'll get an empty cigar box. I'll cut a slot in the cigar box. He has a good age. Thank you, but Mrs. Cooley has a slight cold. She got caught out in the rain. You're too bad, Cooley. Now, are we all right? We see young turkeys at the time. You shouldn't leave young turkeys out in the rain, you know. Now then, back to the suggestion box. You shouldn't leave your life out in the rain either. We're having a family conference, if you don't mind. I don't mind. I'll put the age in a refrigerator. The entire family has to use it. Installing a family suggestion box, are you? Zeke. Besides... What? We have a suggestion box at the chicken farm. It's a very fine day. We got twice as many hands. They aren't notes, judge. These are for the suggestion box. So this was your idea? Naturally. I'm just jotting down some helpful hints to Leroy and Berke. I'll help you. Judge, I've encouraged them to make all the suggestions about me they see fit. And drop them in the cigar box. No. You won't need a cigar box, Leroy. Yeah, thank you. You need a Vienna box. He's one to Leroy. He's one to Berke. I just saw your suggestion box. It is? Your cigar box isn't big enough. Anyone will get a little thing tonight. We may not have a suggestion. I think I'll read this. There isn't much poetry since the days you used to write loves on Mr. Broncos. Oh, we've had a floor for writing books on things. You were as you probably were just kidding with your suggestion. Oh, no, I was serious about every one. Then you really did write this. Oh, what? The best suggestion, if you want to know, is to take your suggestion box and blow it. Marjorie! What's so funny about it? She must have written it. Or did she? I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with no. K-N-O-W. No. Go? I'll take it with anything, huh? You got me. The best suggestion, if you want to know, is to take your suggestion box and blow it.


The Craft Food Company presents Willard Waterman as the great Gildersleeve! Gildersleeve is brought to you transcribed by the Craft Foods Company. Craft makers of the one and only Miracle Whip salad dressing. We say one and only because there just isn't any other salad dressing like Miracle Whip. Miracle Whip is different and it tastes different. Miracle Whip tastes so good it's become the most popular salad dressing ever created. More Miracle Whip is sold than the next 20 leading brands of salad dressing combined. Try it. Make your salad better tasting with the one and only Miracle Whip. You've been suddenly notified that you were about to be visited by some distant relative whose very existence you had all but forgotten. Well that's what has happened to the great Gildersleeve. He's now listening to the repercussions from the little family. Now Marjorie your room is vacant you know. But Anki I didn't even know such a person as Cousin Emily existed. Well I wouldn't secure myself until I checked the family album. Her picture's there all right. Not a bad looking girl. You call that a girl? Yes Leroy. What's confusing you is that midi blouse she's wearing. Cousin Emily must be in her middle 30s now. A little younger than I am. Who isn't? Is her husband coming with her Anki? I don't think so. She just said she'd be stopping over for a couple of days. Gosh I wonder how a relative can smell a vacant room 2,000 miles away. I bet she has a nose like a bloodhound. No Leroy. We don't sooner get Marjorie and Bronco moved out so I can use their room. Leroy Forester. Well that'll do Leroy. Come on together. Just do us what to do. Why does a relative have to show up? Leroy. Darn rovin' relative. We haven't had any of the family visitors since Aunt Hattie was here two years ago. Now I'll never forget that visit. She couldn't wait to tell me how to raise the twins. Yeah she had me washing my ears every 30 minutes. Darn near took all the starch out of them. Well now she'll only be here two days. Well she better not come over to our house and start telling me how to take care of the twins. Just because I'm young some older mothers try to tell me how to do everything. Cousin Emily isn't even a mother. I don't think. Well that's just it we're on. Children you've got the wrong attitude toward Cousin Emily. You aren't being fair. You're unwilling to throw up the welcome mat. Hey I got an idea. Hope Ty Jordan when she stands on it yank it back. And that'll do. Cousin Emily's coming and we're going to like it. Whether we like it or not. Making the bed I see. Easy on that pillow. I'm just pounding nice and soft. Are you upset about something. Not me. I'm not upset. Birdie's got nothing to be upset about. She's just making the bed. She flipped that mattress like it was a hot cake. Birdie I have a feeling something's bothering you. Not me. Nothing's bothering me. Birdie's got nothing to worry about. She's just making a bed. But you've turned the mattress over twice. Yes sir. Just trying to get it right. Some relatives are mighty particular about how bed is made. Oh so that's it. Birdie I was just telling the children this morning. It's been two years since we've had a relative in the house. Yes sir. Birdie remembers Aunt Hattie. Yes fine woman. Mighty fine. No don't let the thought of Cousin Emily's visit bother you. No sir that don't bother Birdie. No reason for Birdie to be bothered. Ask the spirit Birdie. Well I'm off to meet the train. No reason for Birdie to be bothered. I ain't expecting no relative. Birdie's fixing for somebody else's relative. Yeah I know. And Birdie don't mind fixing if she can fix it right. But that ain't easy. Well I don't imagine Cousin Emily will prove a problem. No sir. All she has to do is tell me how to run the kitchen and run the house and Birdie'll do it. But it won't be easy. Well I'll have to go now Birdie. But don't forget I'm still running the house. OK. But it won't be easy. My goodness. Birdie's just like Marjorie and Leroy. I don't know why people resent a relative who shows up unexpectedly.  Hi. What are you doing sprawl on the parlor floor. Trying to get my model airplane motor to work. Look at this floor. Oil cans tools bolts nuts scattered everywhere. Leroy when I come back with Cousin Emily I want this stuff picked up. And I want to find you sitting straight in a chair. Oh fine. Here we go changing everything just because she's coming to town. Things around here won't be the same anymore. Leroy why do you feel Cousin Emily won't fit in. All of us gilder sleeves fit in. There's not a square peg among us. Tidy up the parlor. OK but remember you promised to take me to craft park tonight if I got the motor running. I did. Sure so I can fly the plane under the light. Well Leroy now the Cousin Emily's coming that may not be possible. I know it. This will be your first night here.  I could. Young man. Well you remember I'll be all left all to myself. Leroy let's not be jealous before she even comes to the house. Who's jealous. Well wouldn't you like to go to the train with me and meet Cousin Emily. I can wait. Whatever you say. We'll be back soon my boy looking welcome mad at that. I better check it. You know Leroy hasn't tied a rope to it. Well I was just on my way out. Yeah. Have you forgotten. This is our night to play pinocchio. Sorry judge but I have to go to the train to meet Cousin Emily. Cousin Emily. I didn't know you had a cousin Emily. I'd almost forgotten myself as you reminded me with a letter. What am I supposed to do tonight with my phone. Now judge I know I've left you at loose ends but say why don't you drop back tonight and meet Emily. You can do me a favor at the same time. Leroy wants me to take him to the park tonight to fly his model airplane while we slip away for an hour you can entertain Emily. Gilded don't try to pawn your relatives off on me. It isn't that judge with Emily coming Leroy's nose is a lot of joint you know how the boy is wants to be with me every minute. Well I'll do it for Leroy. What's this cousin Emily like. I've never seen her but here's a picture that I'm taking along to identify her at the train. Let me see that. Well. Judge don't laugh at my relatives that picture was taken years ago. What's she wearing a life preserver. That's a mini blouse and you know it unless they came in after your time you old goat. Well she does look alive and interesting. Why is she coming to visit you. Well she said she just closed in summer stock. Oh yes little girl she was always interested in dramatic. So was I that's a little boy of course. I put on a wig and played little Eva in Uncle Tom's cabin. You want to hear me recite. No thanks little Eva. Save your recitation for cousin Emily. You watch the train. I hope the family likes it. I'm sort of going on a limb for say I wonder if that's Emily said she'd be wearing a little white hat. So glad to see you. Why George good to see you after all these years I've never recognized you from your photograph you're so big. Well put on a little weight I guess by the way where's Fred Fred Fred who your husband. That's his name isn't it. Oh Fred I'd almost forgotten about him. Rod Morton you should have seen the wedding present sterling silver beautiful china a vacuum cleaner. Well fine. How is Fred. Oh Fred and I never got married. Well you know how it is. When a woman passes 30 everybody in the family thinks she should be married. So I had some wedding announcements printed and sent them out. What about all the wedding presents. Oh I use them every day. Well take my arm Emily and I'll see about your baggage. All right so nice to have a man to see about things you have no idea how hard it is for a girl alone. Especially for an attractive girl. Oh yes while the train coming down from Milwaukee there were these two fellows sitting across from me both real cute but we haven't been on the train more than five minutes before George the blonde one leaned over and said hi baby traveling salesman probably. How'd you know his name was George. I asked him naturally. There's one thing I won't do it's talk of strange man. Yes of course. Well you're looking real well Emily thank you. I always do. Oh there goes George. Isn't he adorable. Well don't stand there wave George. Let's push on to the baggage counter Emily. Lead the way cousin. Say there's a dream boat. Wasn't he cute. Oh the men in this town. You know something cousin. I'm going to like it here. Hmm what a buzzing cousin. How's Marjorie. Well Marjorie's marriage you know. Oh yes we must compare wedding presents. Yes well let's go in. I'll get the bags later. Tell me about Leroy. Oh Leroy's a big boy now. We're great pals do a lot of things together. Just a couple of kids you know isn't that wonderful. Step inside Emily Leroy is very anxious to meet you. Leroy. Didn't see you on the floor. Leroy this is cousin Emily. Hello Leroy. Hi and what a big boy. You're almost as long as the rug. Leroy get up and say hello to your cousin Emily. Playing motor working. Oh are you a model airplane fan. Yeah Leroy I thought you were going to have this debris picked up. What's wrong with the motor Leroy just won't run I'll bet Emily can make it run if there's anything Emily can do it makes things go until I kick off my high heels and get down on the floor. Emily. Oh that feels good I just love to go barefooted. Now Leroy you get down here and we'll see what the trouble is sure Emily you have to get down on the floor. Don't be an old buddy daddy. Body that hand me the little wrench Leroy. Now let me see. This shouldn't be hard to fix in a motorcycle. Then about a motorcycle I wrote in a hippodrome. Oh my goodness Leroy's been working on that all day Emily I'm afraid you're wasting your time. Contact. She fixed it. Well Leroy and I were going to the park to fly it by all the wire up short we can test it right here in the room here in the parlor stand back rock Morton. Get out of here. Emily you just got in the house you can't run off just like that. Oh I can't can I I nearly forgot my shoes. I'm left holding the bag. 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what an unconventional woman you won't like her horse you may as well go home no i'm going to wait and meet her if for no other reason than to let her know gently but firmly that i am put out they're just coming in it's about time going right to bed i usually have to tell them three or four times it even he didn't even say good night to you gilder good night yes yes well judge hooker and i have been waiting quite a while don't tell me this is the judge yes emily this is judge hooker the judge my cousin emily forest how do you do hello judge throgmorton i thought you said the judge was an older man well but i support some people think you're older because you're prematurely gray well now that you mentioned it prematurely gray he's had snow on the roof for 30 years of course i'd know you're a judge you're so distinguished looking throgmorton wouldn't they look cute on the supreme court bench yeah cute thank you are those legal papers you have in your hand i bet your mind is so full of habeas corvus is it almost drives you crazy well a judge does have the trying task of making many important decisions but these papers happen to be my old shataka program shataka judge don't tell me you were in the theater too what a well rounded man what a gracious woman to say so yes yes since you're from the theater in this forest there i thought you might like to see my old playbills and uh perhaps hear me recite oh my goodness judge don't you think you should be going now i mean it's getting late and emily had a long train trip throgmorton don't be silly i never run down come on judgy let's spread your playbills down here on the floor let's i can't wait to see them gilday you have the most captivating cousin what a changeable old chameleon here since last night she already has the judge and leroi doing nibbops everybody falls for her bubbly enthusiast i don't know where she gets it we guillers leaves don't have that kind of personality oh well i'll eat a big lunch take a good nap and forget about emily wonder what's on the menu at pete's hello pete hello mr guillerson mr mango for you today well i might have a bite of lunch pete mera i'm surprised you didn't go home to lunch today mr guillerson why go home well you have a relative visiting you it might be the sociable thing to do oh she's out shopping with marjorie today yes i know marjorie and emily were in this morning emily you mean miss forester pete well when she came in she was miss forester but by the time she left she was emily oh my goodness quite a fetching lady she has a way of making a man feel at home without caring to be there i'm surprised at you i was surprised at my job you've been taken in just like the judge and leroi okay she's my cousin and i hate to say this but she soft soaps everybody she isn't one bit like me no he isn't i guess i'm the only one who detects a note of insincerity there mr guillerson if you can't stay in my store and say that about my friend emily your friend you've only known her since this morning well to know emily is to like her on the other hand i've known you for over 20 years believe me if she said nice things about you she was only flattering she was not flattering me what did she say she said i looked very handsome in my pharmacy to jacket oh my goodness and she displayed a keen interest in the way i built a banana split oh she watched me scoop the ice cream out of the can she watched me peel the banana she said i had the hands of an artist now i'll bet you loaded that banana split with so much goo you lost money on it no i did not i didn't even charge you for it brother pv you're more gullible than i thought and for your information you're not handsome i wouldn't say that so does for us he's right upstairs oh yes well you were with her all day now honestly what do you think about her oh i think she's wonderful would marjorie emily's one of the nicest persons i've ever known oh you're just like all the others even the skills please hello birdie margie and i were just discussing miss emily yes you and i feel the same way about visiting relatives yes we do auntie's trying to find somebody who doesn't like her well it isn't that i don't like her let's just say i'll be glad when she leaves tonight all birdie can say it's birdie hates to see that sweet thing go what so do i oh mr gilsey you should have seen this emily in the kitchen today birdie you mean you let her in your kitchen can she ever bake a cake i'll answer that she can bake a cake oh it's gorgeous unki it's devil's food i might have known yes that was some cake that's the first devil's food cake ever combined angel what a saleswoman that emily is unki why don't you go upstairs and ask emily to stay a while what oh we think she's quite in addition to the family marjorie asked me to do anything within reason oh please unki no i can't do it you haven't been very nice to her you know well she hasn't been very nice to me you haven't given her a chance well i'll go 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take you long to separate the wheat from the chaff well i enjoy that girl knows her oats you should be very proud of your uncle what a discerning woman i guess i'll never get to know him well enough to tell him that there i'm all packed emily oh rock morten emily you can't leave you haven't got to know me well enough but i thought that you wanted to unpack there must be a lot of things you want to tell me what a character thirty seconds a tempting fancy salad main dish deserves something special in the way of a bread or cracker accompaniment so try hot cheese filled rolls corn sticks or oven toasted crackers that good-looking salad deserves something special in the way of dressing too so use miracle whip salad dressing miracle whip is so delicious it makes any salad elegant or plain taste better than ever try it see what the lively teasing flavor of miracle whip can do for your salad favorites see why millions prefer miracle whip yes sir emily the wonderful girl cousin to be proud of 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When you think of Aubrey Plaza odds are you can't help picture her as the quirky, larger-than-life character April Ludgate from the hit sitcom Parks & Recreation. And if that isn't the first time you really remember her, then maybe it was more recently on the second season of HBO's The White Lotus. With a personality as out there as Aubrey's, you'd probably expect her to be living in some eccentric home that's as in your face as she can sometimes be. But the truth of the matter is Aubrey's home is not nearly that loud. Also, Michael and I have dropped our own house tour of our new home that we moved into this year, so go ahead and subscribe to our personal channel if you want to see where we're living and more of what we're up to. In these videos, we don't reveal any addresses and even though I've done a house tour of my own place, please do not show up at any private residences because it's not safe for anyone. After getting her start as an actress in the late 2000s, Aubrey would pay right around $1.6 million for a home located in the Hollywood Hills, one that she would come to share a few years later with her eventual husband Jeff Beena. Now, keeping with her on-screen persona versus her actual personality, Aubrey almost never updates her fans about her home life or her relationship. Probably because she doesn't see it as being all that different from anyone else's. While speaking about her partner in 2013, she once told Cosmopolitan, He's a creative person and we understand each other on that level. When we're together, we like hanging out at home. We're happy having people over and playing Settlers of Katan or Battlestar Galactica. And from what we did manage to dig up about Aubrey's former Hollywood Hills address, it certainly doesn't sound like she's lying. While speaking with the UK newspaper, The Guardian, the media outlet made special note of a deluxe edition of Scrabble just sitting on her kitchen table the entire time. In fact, according to a recent interview with GQ, these two even met over a game of Balderdash. So, one thing's for sure, Aubrey and her hubby absolutely love their board games. While this Hollywood couple may go above and beyond to keep their private life exactly that, the one thing Aubrey regularly posts updates about are her dogs and I can't blame her. They're both adorable pooches. Beyond just her affection for these four-legged critters, Aubrey also has an eye for collecting. Just probably not what you'd expect because if this image is anything to go by, Aubrey isn't out there collecting shoes or Louis Vuitton bags. Instead, she's a big-time DVD and Blu-ray collector. When you put that together with her obvious love for board games, it all kind of makes sense, right? I mean, Aubrey even relishes dressing up for Halloween, which we can see from this image. Also gives us a taste of her surprisingly narrow bare-bones kitchen with all-white cabinets and a couple small sections of marble countertop. But the most exciting thing to ever happen in the confines of this home went down during the lockdown when Aubrey and Jeff decided to marry one another on a whim. And I'm talking within the span of a single hour. Here's how she explained it to Ellen. As it turns out, onehourmarriage.com is apparently a thing that exists. Aubrey also managed to smooth talk the Efficient into driving two hours out of his way to perform the ceremony in the couple's own backyard on the anniversary of their first date. Following which, Plaza said that she went across the street to see her neighbor. Someone that she claims is a real-life witch just to get her blessing. I created a very quick love alter in my yard. Facts of our love, smoke, fire, things of that nature. Despite hosting a landmark life event right in her very own home, a little over a year later, Aubrey and Jeff would decide to buy a new house together, which left Plaza to list this abode for $2.25 million in August 2022. She'd find a buyer within just weeks and shortly thereafter move into a brand-new residence. When Aubrey and Jeff sold their old home, they didn't have all that far to move. Instead, they upgraded to a pristine and elegant Spanish-style mansion located just down the street. That's right, in October 2022, Aubrey and Jeff dropped $4.7 million on a different home but in the very same residential neighborhood of Hollywood Hills. Both her former residents and this new one were originally constructed way back in the 1920s. But Aubrey's newest digs are much bigger and fancier than what she had before. Situated behind large walls and gates on a quarter-acre block of land, this three-story home is only a few minutes from Griffith Park. Exteriors offer stucco and a terracotta roof and it sits on a front yard surrounded by mature trees. Inside, you'll find four bedrooms and six bathrooms spread across a little more than 4,000 square feet of fully restored and glamorous living space. Home is full of grand-scale rooms, oak floors, high ceilings, arched doorways, wood sash windows, and seamless transitions between indoor-outdoor spaces. When you enter the home, a portico-topped front door opens to a tiled foyer which almost immediately steps down into a living room, sporting a whitewashed wood beam ceiling, a brick fireplace, and a picture window that led in a ton of LA sun. Then there's the nearby formal dining room with French doors spilling out to the exterior garden, a space we'll circle back to in just a moment. There's also the gourmet kitchen that's been done up with all white cabinets, marble countertops, an apron-style sink, stainless steel appliances, dual walk-in pantries, a snack bar island, and most importantly, access to the outdoor dining patio overlooking the property's koi pond. Rounding out the main floor is a cozy den, which will no doubt become the go-to spot to play all those board games that these two enjoy so much, as well as an office that boasts wood beam ceilings and bookshelves. To get upstairs, you can check out the Magnesite staircase that still has all of its original ironwork from the 20s. On the top floor, there's a spacious master suite with a pair of walk-in closets, as well as a bathroom that includes a claw foot soaking tub and separate shower. Three further ensuite bedrooms can also be found up here on the top floor, one of which could easily be transformed into a media room, and another that comes equipped with a sunroom as well as a porch. As for the lowest level, it connects to an attached two-car garage, and there's even a climate-controlled wine room as well, alongside plenty of storage space. Last but not least is Aubrey's new backyard, a space that's not only big enough to host a massive in-ground pool, but also have enough room left over for a giant cabana that's steam shower ready. Having lived in her former house for roughly four years, how long will Aubrey and Jeff call this new place home? Who knows for sure? But considering how much nicer it is here, maybe this will be the spot where these two finally start a family of their own. Something that was apparently put on hold after the madness of the past couple years had Aubrey concerned about the future of humanity. Of course, considering these two literally just moved in a few weeks ago, maybe I should give them a little time to get settled before I plan out their next 20 or so years. Especially considering that Aubrey's only more or less just returned from spending five months, holds up at the Four Seasons San Domenico Palace, while shooting season two of The White Lotus. And stay tuned if you want to see more of that spot. And if you want to see more of that spot though, stay tuned because we will be having a video on that place itself. In the meantime, I sure hope that Aubrey's new home is everything that she wants it to be. Alright, that'll wrap up this latest house tour.  If the world at large assumed you were one way at home because of how you come across in movies and TV, would you keep it a secret if you were really nothing like your on-screen personality? Let me know what you would do in that situation in the comments down below or maybe another house tour you'd like to see on this channel. Otherwise, like, subscribe, and turn on those notifications to make sure you never miss an episode. My name is Cara the Vampire Slayer. 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Welcome to JSA TV and JSA podcast, the newsroom for tech, telecom, and data center professionals. Buffy Herakitas coming to you from fabulous Las Vegas, Nevada for channel partners 2022. And joining me today is Marcus Lansel of Palomino. Very nice to be here. Marcus, welcome to JSA TV. Can you give us a little bit more information about your company and what you do? Absolutely. So Palomino is a Canadian company. We're based out of Toronto and Hamilton and we provide cloud services and data integration services for fast growing companies in Canada. And you're here. Is this your first time at Channel Partners? First time at Channel Partners. Yeah, I'm pumped. I'm excited. This is a really, really interesting conference. I love the fact that they combined it with MSP Summit which is a lot of related data services and offerings for us. So yeah, I could see us have a larger presence at this event next year. Why don't you tell us a little bit more about Palomino and how it's looking to penetrate into the channel market here in the US? Yeah, so what we provide is cloud data storage and hosting services. And then what we also do is we have a software team in-house that helps our client integrate their data applications. So say you have a CRM, a data lake application, productivity, ERP type applications, we help integrate all these and make best use of the data feeds that are occurring between these applications. What we'd like to do now is to integrate into the American marketplace. We're looking specifically for marketplace apps, channel partners that be interested in working with us to reach out to their clients. Typically we look at medium-sized companies that are in a high growth stage so they have a lot of data management pains that we like to solve for them. Yeah, definitely. Solving the pain points for some of those businesses is critical in today's market. Marcus, where can viewers go to learn more about your company? Well, you can go to our website at PalominoSys.com and learn about our services as well as the WebPower Cloud, which is our MSP solution. Marcus, thank you so much for joining us today of JSA TV and enjoy the rest of the show and thank you viewers for tuning in to another episode of JSA TV from Channel Partners 2022. Happy channel networking.