This 10th year of Daily Tech News show is made possible by its listeners, thanks to all of you, including Eric Holm, Carmine Bailey, and Vince Power. Coming up on DTNS, Rod Simmons is here to talk about LastPass and what you need to know if you want to switch. Plus, Microsoft brings Bing AI to Windows and Signal threatens to Brexit over an anti-encryption law. This is the Daily Tech News for Tuesday, February 28th, 2023 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Redward, I'm Sarah Lane. And I'm the show's producer, Roger Chang. Joining us, the host of the SMR and BBQ and Tech podcast. And what I would say is a security professional as well, Rod Simmons. Welcome back to the show. Thanks for having me back. Do you describe yourself as a security professional? You know, 20 most security professionals don't describe themselves that way. But yes, I work in security all day every day and have for a number of years. You sound like a professional to me. Sounds like you professionally do security things. So yeah, there we go. Well, good. You're the man we need to talk to then. Also, folks, my world Congress still going on one plus saying it's going to launch a foldable phone later this year. That's all there is to that story because they didn't tell us any other things. So let's get to the quick hits. When Google launched the Pixel watch back in October, it promised it would also add a fall detection feature. That feature is now available in the personal safety app on Android. So on a detected hard fall, the Pixel watch will wait 30 seconds. If it doesn't detect movement afterwards, it'll vibrate, sound an alarm, ask the user, do you need assistance? And if there's no response after a minute, it will automatically call emergency services. The European Commission sent Apple an updated preliminary statement of objections. This is part of its antitrust investigation into the company's relationship with music apps. The new statement dropped a previous objection that Apple requires music apps to use its app payment system. It will no longer object to Apple requiring apps to use its in app payment system, kind of a big deal there. The objections, however, will focus on Apple's anti steering rules. Those are the rules that prohibit app makers from telling users about other ways that they could pay for a service like, hey, go to our website to subscribe. Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg said that the company formed a new top level product group focused on generative AI. The group will initially work on building creative and expressive tools and eventually focus on developing AI personas. Zuckerberg said it's exploring experiences across WhatsApp, Messenger and Instagram, of course all meta companies, including text, images like creative Instagram filters and ad formats, video and multimodal experiences. On Tuesday, Nvidia released RTX video super resolution. This is an upscaling technology that works inside Chrome and edge browsers to improve any web video by sharpening the edges of objects and reducing video artifacts. So videos anywhere from 360p pretty low res and up to 1440p can up res to 144 hertz frame rate and upscale to 4k resolution. Nvidia Shield TV already had this. You feel like, hey, don't I have that? If you have a shield? Yeah, you do. But updates to the chromium engine have now let Nvidia expand it to the RTX 30 and 40 series cards. Man, I know it's probably lower res, but I've got some VHS videos from high school that I would love to clean up some now. Yeah, give it a shot. I know, right? Qualcomm and Thales announced certification of the first user-ready integrated SIM or iSIM. It offers card-free digital signups and security like an eSIM, but it's built into a phone's main processor, so there's no dedicated chip that's needed to be added. Might save space, maybe a larger battery, maybe even possibly save you some money, or at least save the carrier some money. No word on which phones will use iSIMs first, but since they support the same remote provisioning standard as eSIMs, providers don't necessarily need to update their systems. They could just kind of roll it out. So as soon as a handset comes out with the hardware, it should work. All right, that is a look at quick hits. We have quite a bit of Microsoft news to look over today. The company has been busy. So first, phone link is coming to iPhones. Phone link mirrors a lot of your phone's functions on the desktop, so you don't have to pick up your phone to use them. Say you're already cranking on your desktop, they will be mirrored there. Things like text messages, notifications, phone calls, stuff like that. So starting now, some Windows insiders can use the phone link app with iPhone to send and receive iMessage messages and also make and receive phone calls and also view notifications that would otherwise just be on iOS. However, there are more limits on what the iOS version of phone link can do if you want to compare it to the Android version. For example, you can't send pictures and messages, you can't participate in group chats from the desktop, and you also won't see any message history that wasn't sent through phone link itself. In addition to that, a Windows 11 update has come along, only for Windows 11 though, which adds screen recordings within the snipping tool, tab support for notepad, and updated Braille display support. The headline grabbing one though is the Bing icon is now showing up in the taskbar's search box. You can already search Bing in the taskbar, this lets you do the chat thing. If you are in the access group that can chat with Bing, you can hit that Bing icon in the taskbar, start chatting with Bing in Edge. You can manually install the update now or wait until the automatic one March 14th. That's when the monthly security update will begin to roll out to everybody else. Rod, any of these get you excited to fire up the old Windows machine as soon as you get the update? Yeah, all of them actually, both of them actually. So I'll start with the first, which is what excites me about that is typically for some people who are Windows users, iPhone users, and the only thing keeping them using a Mac is I can get my text message on my phone because I can type faster on a full-size keyboard. It's super nice. No, you can do that on Windows. I think it's fantastic. But you just get with chat GPT with Bing and what I love about them most is, and I think if you haven't played around with it, if you're not, I'll say the perfect writer, like I always will write something up and I'm like, I don't like the way it sounds. I'll say, Rob or I'll send it to a marketing person to clean this up. Now I can just say reword this and it's, oh my gosh, this is great. I sent it to the market. I did that and I sent it to a marketing guy. He's like, this sounds great. I was like, yeah, I know it does. So I think both of those are going to be like huge values for people at work because they can write really great content or at least write okay content and have someone do the cleanup for them. I love the idea of the marketing person saying, perfect, no notes, wait a second. Shoot. They probably sent it the same place and said it came back with the same thing. Yeah, yeah. I do wonder if this is a little early to have this concern, but if people start using this Bing engine a lot more and it's now tied into your taskbar, do we start to have little rumblings, little murmurings, little complaints about Microsoft and its 82% desktop domination tying in a search engine? I don't think so. You wouldn't, you'd hope not. I mean, because if you think about like Google's dominance that they have, I'd say in the classroom with Chromebooks, like my kids all use Chromebooks. And it's interesting if you talk to the kids, what they like is on some Chromebooks, specifically the Google ones, there's a quick button to access Google search and it bypasses search history. So if the kids are in class and they're searching up answers, if they click those buttons, they don't go into the school search history. So they don't realize the kids are searching for answers. So you still get that same level of capability on Chromebooks that are very dominant and popular and Google's baking their heavily dominant search engine into heavily dominant phone, heavily dominant Chromebooks that are at the educational level like K through 12. So I think what you're saying is Microsoft baking its search engine into Windows, Google baking its search engine into Chrome OS, Apple needs to start a search engine. Yeah, or just keep the relationship. I mean, the ratio they have with Google right now, which is they pay Google Kings ransom to pay Google for some search and they pay Bing for search that comes from Siri. Yeah. So they're like splitting the difference. Yeah. I don't think Apple, well, they probably eventually will need to get there, but probably not just yet. Yeah. No, I'm curious about that. But yeah, the phone link stuff obviously limited because of iOS's own limitations. But great is, I know Wild West Dan was saying he uses messages.google.com all day long. I'm with him 100%. It is a tab that I have open all day long. I have one open right now. My wife was texting me as we started. Do I need to pick up your son? No, he's on already home. So message.google.com is a killer if you're an Android user. Yeah, I have a few friends who are iPhone users, but also use Windows for work.  I said, check it out. And then we're like, really? Wow. Seriously? Oh my gosh, this is going to improve everything.  So you have either the WhatsApp app or WhatsApp web.  And I can say, I think for me, this is huge. I wish Apple a long ago would have just put iMessage on every single platform because things like WhatsApp would have never really gained steam because everybody can do iMessage. So I think it was a miss for them on that one. They could have left you green if you weren't on an Apple device and still had their little blue bubble situation if they wanted to. I would have been totally fine with it as long as I could have used iMessage. And yeah, I'm on Android now, so it's not a big deal for me anymore. One last Microsoft thing. They expanded the PC Game Pass service to more markets. Preview is now available for 40 new countries. It includes countries across Europe, North Africa, and the Middle East. Users can get access to the Xbox Insider Hub app. Broader Launch is coming in the next few months. Service now available in 86 countries. So if you've been waiting for it to come to your country, go check out. We have a link to the Engadget article lists all the countries it's coming to. All right. Let's move on to some encryption talk. In fact, we're going to be talking about it a lot on the show today. Let's start with this. The UK Parliament has riled up providers of encrypted services yet again in an effort to combat child sexual abuse material also known as CSAM. The UK online safety bill would require such providers not to encrypt information in a way that would stop regulators from being able to see what's in them if they need to. If they think something really bad is going on, we need to help. That's the idea. The government's impact assessment of the bill goes further though, saying that companies must take steps to mitigate the risk that using end to end encryption would stop regulators from being able to identify CSAM. This is an old story. We have talked about it multiple times. The government can say that it's not banning end to end encryption, but also we know that end to end encryption means only the user and the intended recipient can read those messages. If you require the government to be able to read that information or anybody by definition, there are not ways you can then implement end to end encryption. It breaks down at that point, but don't let that stop you. You can use end to end encryption as long as you can figure out a way to do that. And then also let the government peak somehow just to get rid of the bad guys. The bill even funds five organizations to find ways CSAM can be detected and addressed within end to end encrypted environments while still ensuring user privacy is respected. To that I say good luck. To that signal said goodbye. Encrypted messaging app signal said in no uncertain terms it will not operate in the U.K. if it has to weaken end to end encryption in any way. Signal CEO Meredith Whitaker told ours, Technica, we would absolutely exit any country if the choice were between remaining in the country and undermining the strict privacy promises we make to the people who rely on us. And just today a German encrypted email provider, or at least I noticed it today called Tutanota took its own approach writing on its website that if U.K. Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's government wants, quote, to stop people in the U.K. to use strong encryption, he must block access to Tutanota just like Russia and Iran already doing. So basically saying Russia and Iran already block us U.K., you want to be next? Listen, I don't know much about Tutanota, but it certainly reflects the rhetoric out there and signal is used by the British government. So if they were to just pull themselves out of the U.K., it would cause quite a stir. Rod, is there any compromise on issues like this?  God, I wish there were, but there's not. And I think the, I think it was a signal CEO who probably said it best, which the same mechanism you'd want to do to weaken the encryption can be either within the company who has access to those keys can exploit it. Law enforcement can have overreach to exploit those and attackers who gain access to that backdoor mechanism for law enforcement can exploit that. So any mechanisms you do to try to reduce encryption, it's no matter, and it's a bad idea. So I think, and the idea that, well, you could do it pre on device scan, which I think Apple had looked at doing with CSAM, and they backed away from that idea because it was just too invasive of analysis of devices. So unfortunately, the gene's out of the bottle with end-to-end encryption, and if you force certain apps to do that, there'll just be other ones that'll pop up that people will just go over to. And as a signal user, I'm super happy the signal is taking such a strong stance on protecting user privacy.  That's something you can do entirely on the device and no one but the device holder would know about it. There were other parts of that method that involved notifying parents and everything that also caused people to object. If you are looking at this bill, if you were to tell people, hey, what you're about to send looks like CSAM, maybe you don't want to send it, you're only helping the perpetrators at that point, right? You're actually not catching them. What the UK wants to do is say, we want to be able to look at a message after it's been sent and say, oh, that person sent an offending message. There's just no way to do that without breaking encryption. At least nothing I could think of. Yeah, so I like the intention. I do get the intention. I think the problem is, as soon as people start talking about child pornography, everybody wants to kind of jump in and we want to try to figure out a solution and it's a horrific thing that happens but what if you could catch someone, I don't know, trying to manufacture bombs or trying to sharing information about how to do things with bombs or if you're human trafficking in general. There's all types of freeches and the problem we'll have is it'll just be, well, we just want to go an inch further, we just want to go an inch further until at what point in time they just want to inspect and look at every single thing that people are communicating and the intention is great but privacy is privacy. If you need to inspect what someone is doing, get authorization to get onto their devices. Having the person sitting in the middle is probably not the right point because then at some point, should we go to everybody who sells email encryption keys and say, hey, you can no longer have clients that support end-to-end encryption and if the emails are sent to your servers, you have to find a way to decrypt the emails where I'm using my public key to send an email and we're trafficking back and forth. Yeah, you can do that. Just make sure the government has a key that they can use to, right? That's exactly what they want. The government is like, let's just try triangulation. We want you to be encrypted from sender to end user but we also want to make sure you're not doing anything super bad. So maybe just make sure that we're also part of the conversation. And we promise not to look unless we have a really good reason. Yeah, you have to give us a really good reason or we just have to come up with one. Yeah. Did you say just BCC the government on everything? Yeah, make it easy. Why not? There was a move, a book. Gosh, what was it? I think it was Dan Brown. He did a book where the CIA was gathering all different communications and it was just such massive volumes of data. I cannot remember. It'll come to me later and essentially it took down one of their servers trying to decrypt a constant stream and volume of data. It was definitely a Dan Brown book but I can't remember that. That sounds very Dan Brown. And encryption is math. So you can't really outlaw it. You can just make using it illegal. But like you said before, people who want to encrypt their things are going to find a way to do it. Folks, what do you want to hear us talk about on the show? If you haven't checked out our subreddit, there's a great community in there submitting stories, voting on those stories, talking about the stories. Let us know in our subreddit dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. Last pass disclosed more details about how the attackers were able to access customer encrypted password vaults. One of the criticisms when they announced this in December is they didn't give details. They have now finished their investigations and published a lot of details. I'm going to give them credit for the transparency at least in this particular case. The attackers used information stolen in other breaches to take advantage of a remote code execution vulnerability in a third party media software package. Ars Technica has sources that say it was a vulnerability in Plex and there was a vulnerability in Plex around that time. They then were able to install a key logger on a senior DevOps engineers home computer that let them grab the employee master password to their corporate vault, which then gave them access to the encryption keys and all kinds of other stuff. But the encryption keys needed to access the AWS S3 production backups. The valid credentials made the access difficult to detect because it was legitimate and it wasn't for a couple months before AWS Guard duty alerts finally detected the intruder when they tried to use cloud identity and access management to perform an unauthorized activity. So as best they can tell they were in the system from August 12, 2022 to October 26, 2022. A lot of people were wondering this how far back did they have access to the vaults and it only goes back to August. So in light of these more complete findings, LastPass recommends that users make sure they are using a strong and unique password on their vault. Change default PBKDF2 iterations to at least 600,000. Review all the passwords in their vault for uniqueness and strength. Turn on dark web monitoring to look for matches and enable multi-factor authentication. Here's the clincher. If you're already using multi-factor authentication, LastPass also recommends regenerating your shared secrets because part of the things that they got out of AWS were MFA seeds. Rod, these are things most people are not going to do, especially regenerating MFA secrets, checking PBKDF2 iterations. You and I will do them. Sarah will do them. But there's a lot of people out there that their eyes will glaze over and they just won't get around to it. A lot of people in our audience just want to know who to switch to. They just want to get off LastPass. Before we get to that though, I want to know your take as someone who works in security. How do you feel about how LastPass handled this? So I'll start with I've been a LastPass user, well, was a LastPass user for about 12 to 15 years. So I've, and mind you, I love that product. I've recommended it to so many friends. For me, the issue with LastPass isn't that they got breached. It was the speed at which they disclosed information, and I felt like it was trickled out too slow. Because if we had found out very early on of a breach and said, hey, we lost vaults, go change your passwords, I'd have changed my passwords on LastPass and moved on with life and never given it a consideration. The fact that a developer was hacked, I can live with that.  So okay there. The bigger challenge is, as I was reading through this article as to what's happening, I'm like, how did you guys not detect this in for two months?  But were they doing it at that same volume? Like if someone was downloading all the vaults, wouldn't you find it abnormal that this admin is moving vaults off in that mass? Like that should have triggered something. So that's where I'm a little concerned that probably their security wasn't as tight as one would desire it to be. But for me, it was 99% disclosure. I lost trust in the organization, which is what forced me to move elsewhere. I would add to that, like the fact that they lost vaults and it involved a home computer means there probably weren't some best practices being followed there as well. Absolutely. Should people rely on password managers? I've heard a lot of people say, well, this proves that password managers are a bad idea. Password managers are still better than not using one. I mean, I've made the joke before that someone could come up to me and say, tell me the first character in your Gmail password. And if you had a gun to my head, I couldn't tell it. I could guess, but I really, I'd let a jill of me don't know. And for 99.9% of my passwords, I couldn't tell you the first character in them. So password managers are still great things to lean on because it does get users doing, having better passwords and less things that I mean, if you've ever looked at, have I been pwned and looked at the number one breach, the top 50 breach passwords, they're all horrendously awful and easy to crack. And what we're trying to get as users to kind of be more knowledgeable. And then with most of the platforms like LastPass with the security challenge or one password with, I think they call it the watchtower, they all can let you know reuse of passwords, which most people don't catch. They were reusing passwords if they're manually typing them in. But more importantly, if they're, if they're known breach passwords, you can also pick up on those or in on the dark web. So all of those types of things are so valuable with a password manager that you don't get by putting it in, you know, some type of encrypted vaults you're managing on your own. I mean, the LastPass story has unfolded over time and we know more now today than we have in the past. And like you said, there are other options. You can say, yeah, you know what, just that was just too little too late. I'm moving on to something else. However, this could happen to a lot of companies. And because of this, one would think that LastPass goes, we've learned a lot from our mistakes, we are stronger than ever and keep trusting us. There's some merit to that too, right? Yeah, I think some merit. I'm right here. Get on it, Tom. I mean, just in the sense that, you know, we hear about breaches all the time and companies saying, here's what we now know. Here's what we will not allow to happen again, hopefully in a perfect world. How much credit do you give LastPass for that? I think, is that what you're asking, sir? For just disclosing? I think it's, we're just disclosing. It's fantastic. Again, it's, it's not, it's, first you have to disclose quickly. That's, that's the most important. And that's, where we've seen most security companies fall down in the past, it's been either lack of disclosure or too slow to disclose. And that's where like, I think there were a lot of SSL or companies that were providing encryption and doing encryption that got kicked out of browsers because of just either poor management, poor disclosure from Google, Microsoft and those things. So I think that's the first most important. It is great that they're coming transparent, but I think it's after massive backlash and users deciding that they're not going to use it. I mean, when you start looking at users who've been around with you for a decade more, who are now no longer logging into their vaults, deleting all their credentials out of their vault, that's, that's problematic. And I think they know, and not to mention last pass, they were getting very large in the enterprise market and knowing that companies are actually having to read, look at their security policy and posture and might have to make moves off of last pass and go elsewhere. That's a, that's a pretty big hit for them. So I think disclosure are fantastic. And I think they're doing the right thing now, but they should have done the right thing a while ago. And it's okay that the story is evolving as they learn more, totally fine with that. It's, but I should have known about the breach as early as possible so I could take the most evasive action as possible. Last question. Do you have a recommendation for people moving off to last pass yet? Is there an alternative that you like to recommend? So it all depends on the type of user.  You probably would be very happy there. For me, I went with one password and you probably think, well, why the heck would you recommend Bitwarden if you went with one password? So with Bitwarden, I thought it was a fantastic password manager. It's definitely a little rough around the edges. There are certain things that I felt that were, I was stumbling across getting done. However, with one password, the reason why I went that route for myself is I wanted a family plan. I wanted family sharing. So I wanted all of my kids, my wife, I wanted us all to be able to easily share credentials, be on a single password manager, pay one price throughout. I'd say if you were debating on the switch, start with Bitwarden and verify it won't work for you because it's free to get started. So there's a really good run rate where you can trial it out. One password, you're kind of getting into, you don't have a lot of run rate for trying out the solution before you're into a paid model. So for me, I went one password. There's a lot of things that are not last pass and it frustrates me, but I'm learning to use one password for what it is. Excellent. All right, before we get out of here, let's check the mail bag. Let's do it. Mike in Dubai wanted to add to Chris Christensen's travel tip from our Friday show on February 24th. Mike writes, on that show, Chris Christensen mentioned trip mode on macOS and asked if there's an equivalent on Windows because he didn't know because he's a Mac user. Mike says if a user goes onto any Wi-Fi connection, they can toggle between metered and unmetered connections. I don't know all the details about what downloads happen automatically in metered mode, but it minimizes Windows software updates until you return to an unmetered connection, which is the default. I set up my phone hotspot as a metered connection while traveling. Oh, nice tip. Thank you, Mike in Dubai. Good stuff. Indeed. And thanks to everybody who emails us cool tips like this. Feedback at dailytechnewshow.com is where to send those. We welcome them and thank you in advance. Also, thanks to you, Rod Simmons, for being with us today. Could not have done the show without you and we mean that. Let folks know where else they can keep up with your work. Yeah, so I hang out with a couple of clowns. I know Rob and Chris come over here often on the SMR podcast, but also Chris and I run a podcast called Barbecue and Tech. And I do appreciate someone in the chat said Bitwarden does have a family plan. And I did know that, but there was something about their family plan that I didn't like one pass, but I'll have to look that up. And I know I talked about this on the SMR podcast before. So yeah, you did a nice, nice good deep review on SMR folks should absolutely go check that out. I also unrelated to last pass really enjoyed the barbecue and tech episode you just did about the cutting boards because I have a cutting board that you made that I bought from y'all. And I was like, oh yeah, I need to I need to clean it and your cleaning tips and everything were really good in there too. So thank you for that. Yeah, no problem. I don't even want to talk about how my cutting boards probably should be cleaned better. You should listen to this episode. That's a story for a GDI at another time. We do want to thank our brand new boss, Les. Les just started backing us on Patreon. Thank you, Les, and welcome. We're so glad to have you. All right, keeps the streak alive. Thank you, Les, who will pick up Les's baton tomorrow. Patreon dot com. Yeah, patrons like Les get to stick around for the extended show, good day internet. We're going to talk to Rod some more about how to do the move, what you should do when you want to move off last pass on to another password manager. But just a reminder, we do the show live. You might be listening to us after the fact, and that's fine. But if you can catch the show live Monday through Friday at 4pm Eastern 2100 UTC, we'd love to have you. You can find out more at dailytechnewshow.com slash live. We're back doing it all again tomorrow with Scott Johnson joining us. Talk to you then.


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Okay, fine. So, hello. Good morning Amsterdam. Thanks for joining my session. It's about using Drupal as a content hub and making a decoupled web application out of it. My name is Jan. I'm a managing partner at Trio Group. We're one of the biggest B2B agencies in Germany. When I'm not here talking about Drupal, you can find me riding my bike in Italy and drinking the best coffee in the world for just one euro. So, yeah, maybe you want to join me. First of all, I want to share a very successful slide. We used, yeah, nearly all of our Drupal pictures. So, that's, yeah, Drupal, Pac-Man is eating Zydecore and Type 03. So, this is what we built out of, built with data. So, we just were creative interpreting those statistics there. And, yeah, obviously, this start was successful. So, we won't be climbed otherwise. We wouldn't talk about this case study I will show you right now. So, what we will hear in the next couple of minutes is a story about a project we developed for our client where we had a successfully coupled project successful from the perspective of the client, not successful from the perspective of the developer. That's important, different. So, in the end, yeah, we had a happy client. That is most important for me, especially. What are our client's challenges? Our client is Harting Technology Group. They are the world market leader for industrial connectors. So, their problem is that their products can't be seen. They are built in big machines or in small machines.  Otherwise, you just cannot understand where those products can be applied. They have data in different sources. The two most important is Drupal for all the marketing and contents and the SAP Hyprous Commerce System and the product information management tool in the back where all the product data is stored. And of course, they have multiple marketing channels like, of course, the web, trade fairs as well, other you want. And they have a huge sales representers team. So, our mission was to create a world out of class where we can see all the products that are usually hidden. We wanted to make it available everywhere on any device at any place. And at the same time, it should be easy to maintain. And we wanted to have very quick updates to the contents. And we wanted to have new interactive market graphics. This is the solution we built for the client. So, in the background, you see such a market graphics. It shows where the products can be used. In this case, it's a German IC train. So, other use cases are wind energy generators, factories, or, yeah, cities. In this case, you can find hearting. Yeah, it's the cable, the charging cable for the electric cars. This is where hearting happens here. So, and this was the challenge from the market perspective showing this to the clients. And what you see here is the market graphics. It's integrated into the website. What you see is a real time footage. So, there was no cutting of the video. It's just a record of just a bit of clicking and browsing. And you see, you can dive into this train and explore where all the hearting products can be applied. You see it's only small pieces of contents. And later, you can see that there are also products. You see it now below, products from the SAP system or links to the triple system. So, let's dive deeper. What do we have? We have links to triple nodes that are already present. We have products from SAP that are just linked here. We have original content that was created, especially for those market graphics. Those panels below, this menu is just paragraphs. We're using paragraphs in the back end, the triple back end to control those sections of those market graphics, those images or just images that are uploaded to triple, and also those interactive hotspots are managed within triple. So, everything in one place that was our approach to make a really convenient and easy to use back end for the client. So, when we look at, this is some architecture on a very high level, we have our corporate website using triple, of course, which is at the same time the content hub. This system is connected to a translation management tool. So, they have about 25 different languages in their triple system. And all of them can be translated over this connection to across, they use across as a translation tool. We have a connection to SAP Hypers, where all those 20,000 articles come from, including all the images and so on. So, we store native content in triple. Every product from SAP is native content in triple. So, and this allows us that we only have one connection to the market graphics, where we can use all the stuff behind triple and the content hub. Market graphics are integrated into the website. And the website, of course, is, and market graphics is back linking to the website, as well as driving traffic to the products where, yeah, the sales happens. And one important thing that led us to decide for decoupled architecture was that they want to use the tool in different use cases, for example, trade fairs and the devices like laptops and tablets of the sales representatives. So, basically, the technology behind it is quite simple. We have Drupal, it's the corporate website. And the market graphics app is just a Vue.js application. There's no separated backend. We only have Drupal as backend, and we're just getting all the data from the FBI. And, yeah, at the end, we're just serving one thing, the file from a static asset server to provide this application, which I think could easily be done by a floppy disk, I think. And offline usage was one use case. Since we are in Germany, we do not have the best mobile connection. We always have offline issues. So, yeah, what happened? We just used Electron to make a desktop application out of this Vue.js application, which is installed on the sales representatives devices. And there's no JS crawler in the back, which collects the data from the APIs and just stores them in the local storage for, yeah, first purposes for caching, second purposes for the offline usage. So, once you update the app, you can go offline and use it on using this picture. This is from the HMI trade fair in Hannover last year, where Harding took our application and put it on those, yeah, giant 12-inch touchscreens there. You see this little pixel, single pixel there. This is the market graphics app. The backend, we only have one content type and one market graphics. So, this ISE train, we saw in the video, is just one single note. And this note is just collecting, aggregating all the content that is already present in the system. Yeah, as I said, we have the connection to the cross server for the translation management. The page is quite long. It goes ages below, but it's very simple and it's only one place where the editor has to go. So, first of all, we have the different sections, which are paragraphs. They can also be nested, so we can have hotspots in hotspots. Yeah, and we only have simple plain text for those small pieces of content. More interesting is the other part, the touchpoint management. So, first of all, I need to upload an image. And then we decided to use a separate window. We created an overlay, otherwise usability would be just terrible. And this is what you see in the big picture. There, the hotspots are created and just moved with the mouse and positioned it on the image while they should be located. And we decided also to store them in with relative positions to be able to make this whole application responsive for no devices. And this is where SAP products come from. So, as I said earlier, they are native content in Troupel. So, we are mirroring them in Troupel, which allows us to just use this simple autocomplete field of Troupel. They just need to have product number, type it in, and then that's it. They don't need to worry about translation, about the right image, about product updates, or even products that are removed from the product catalog. That's happening all automatically because of this connection to SAP. So, that's it. And it's really convenient for them. Total difference to the situation before Troupel. They used type of three before. And, yeah, they were really happy with that. And then we have this SAP product on our website. And, out come for our client, three important things. Speed, they can easily update the thing. They are fast to the market. They can quickly roll out the new version of their market up. Convenience and usability, of course. For me, the most important thing is autonomy. They can do it without us. If they have a new industry sector, where they want to have the market graphics for, if they have a new product in the ICE train, they can just add it. Add and remove contents. They don't need us. So, we have free, and the client is also free to develop more and creative ideas instead of doing the same stuff over and over again. De-coupled without pain. Yeah. Why did I say that often we developers do decoupled projects because view is a nice technology or decoupled architecture is nice. And we always want to do such projects, but we forget the clients. And clients often feel that we are experimenting with them. And that makes them unhappy. And, at the same time, decoupled projects make projects often more expensive than they need to be. So my advice to you is think of, is this the right use case for a decoupled project? If it's just a small and simple website presenting some marketing content, don't make it a couple websites out of it. It's just expensive, nothing more. Thank you for contributing. Don't forget to join those workshops. And if you want to, please take the survey, give the Drupalcon team, and also me some feedback if you want. Thanks for joining, and have a nice Drupalcon. Any questions? Hi, good to have you. Can I ask you something? How did you make ElectroDev.app on the Vue.js? Did you use some kind of inverter or how did you do it and do you copy it along ElectroDev? Does it actually work? To be honest, I can't tell you. I was the developer, but I can connect you with our developers about the speed. I can tell you, it was quick. So it took only one day until we had the first version of it. So it was quite easy. That was the easy part of the story. The question is if there was a module for the touch point. So no, this is a custom implementation. There was no system module. And no, unfortunately, we did not contribute it. Probably, yes. We have another use case where we will have this touch point management. So this is maybe the situation where we can contribute. Yes, I asked you to contribute. We should. No questions? Thank you. How did you implement the translation, not inside Drupal? Exactly. So we used TMT as a Drupal module. Then we implemented the API of the across language server. And so the editor just says I want a new translation for this page in language English, for example. Then this is automatically transferred to the across software and then humans translate. This is still done by humans. And once they are done, it's getting back the way to Drupal. And the editors just need to approve the content. So there's no copy and paste, no email attachments, and so on. So did the way from the online editor to the translator and the way back is this is fully automated. Okay. Thanks. Have a nice day.


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Hello everyone and welcome to our live fireside chat today. I'm super excited to welcome you to the show. This evening we have a wonderful guest joining us from none other than Google. I would love to introduce A.B. Atoldi joining us live from Amsterdam today. Hello, how's it going A.B. Atoldi from San Francisco but we're both in Europe, we're both in A.B. Atoldi. Fantastic. Off to a great start here. So yes, exactly as A.B. said, we're both joining you from Europe, I'm in Paris and she is in Amsterdam. I am, my name is Chantelle. I am a product marketing manager here at Product School and I'd love to turn it over to A.B. to introduce yourself as well. Hi, my name's A.B. Atoldi. I am a director of product at Google, supporting the team that looks after the YouTube studio product.  Fantastic. Well, thanks so much for joining us. Again, A.B. we're super, super grateful to have you here this evening. We've got a lot of awesome questions in store for our audiences who are tuning in around the globe. This evening, this afternoon, this morning, wherever you might be. So I'd love to deep dive in and get started with the first one, which is super general. Can you tell us a little bit about how you got started in product market management? Absolutely. The interesting thing about this story is that there's a really popular saying that hindsight is 2020. So looking back, it all fits together. But looking forward, I had no idea what I was trying to do. So I have this trifecta of a career, which is you, some people call it the three stalls or the triangle. And we talk about in product management, engineering, understanding the business and the user experience. And essentially, that's how my career went. So I started as an engineer, I was in hardware, then moved over to full stack very early days. And then I moved into design. I was very excited about how you sort of take this, these concepts are sometimes ethereal. They feel a little bit ethereal. And design is the first time that it's brought to life, right, in a way. It's the first time it's a little bit more tangible. So pivoted into design, in parallel, that's a whole other story, published a book on photography, which was meant to be a very short product, but scope creep, every product manager knows about that. And then moved into operations. And that's kind of where the product management transition happened as a general manager at Uber for West Africa. And we did all this work in your product marketing. So you probably appreciate, we did all this work marketing the product, getting it in front of people.  So we basically would talk about this whole thing of, Uber's trying to be everywhere and for everyone, but right now it's for some people in some places. And so I started working quite a lot with the payments team, the money team. And one of the big bets was we should launch cash. And it was a huge push around the business, but that's basically where it started from. So working on that, getting into, how do you get that product to market? What does that mean in terms of how people understand how it impacts their experience? Got me kind of excited and hungry to be closer to the building again. And then yeah, one of the things I always talk about is have a rich network. I reached out to someone who reached out to someone who knew the head of product for all of payments. And he said, yeah, we're trying to build out a team in Amsterdam. We're looking for a head of product.  I was like, absolutely. Went through the interviews and the rest was history. So product journey at Uber and then went off to Netflix. And actually two days ago, that was my first month at Google, I'm enjoying Google. Congratulations, I love anniversaries. My one year anniversary of product school is coming up next month. So first anniversary, thank you. You mentioned some of the other roles that you've had in the past, which is awesome. Having all of that background when you're bringing that to a product role. I'm curious, what does it look like in your day to day? What sort of teams are you interacting with? Cross-functionally? Yeah, so first of all, one of the things I want to kind of talk about is I personally always say that as you kind of go through your career as a product manager especially, what starts to happen actually is more, it correlates with your exposure to risk. That's actually what it, you know, that's what's happening. So the more you're going sort of up the product management ladder, the more risk you're kind of responsible for, the more you have to be able to preempt those risks or understand them. So that's kind of how I think about it. So the numbers you're impacting, the DAUs, the scope, that's what's happening. It's sort of going exponentially. And obviously just, you know, also differentiating between an IC director of product and a people manager director of product. I'm a people manager, right? But they're also directors of products for IC. So in my day to day, my most important goal in, you know, ultimately is that customers are happy and the team is happy, right?  I very much believe in that sort of, we're thinking about it. And I generally like to spend, depends on the day. So, you know, my sort of Mondays and Tuesdays, that's when I kind of spend time with the team. I always say my job is to be a trampoline for your career. So everyone can jump, right?  Obviously also the jump has risk, which goes back to something depending on how high you jump. But you know, the point is, you know, people can jump. My job is to add a trampoline to that, right? So how do I magnify and amplify that jump for you? You already know how to jump. I'm not teaching you how to jump. I'm just trying to help you magnify and amplify that jump.  And then sort of Wednesday, Thursdays, I typically think more about this is when I'm thinking, is when we do sort of design reviews, product reviews, is when I spend time in PRDs or presentations. It's also when I recommend having the cross-functional inter-team meetings because you are also part of an ecosystem, right? There are other product managers, other functions. And then Google has this, Netflix also had it. We have a No Meeting Friday. Uber had it on Thursdays. And I really value that. That is my maker time. That's when I write, that's when I think, that's when I reflect, that's when I try to distill what I sort of absorb during the week. So no day is the same, right? It depends on the day, but ultimately the goal is to kind of get, help the team unlock the impact for that week. That's amazing. So as you probably know at product school, one of the things that we're helping organizations do is set up product teams for the first time in many cases or for companies that are looking to transition to having a digital product that's something we help them with. And I love what you were saying about bolstering people's careers and being the trampoline for them. Do you have any like tips or best practices that you would share with an organization who might be setting up their product team for the first time? Depends on the stage of the organization. If they're setting up for the first time, I would imagine that it's a startup or sort of a scale up if, or a company that had a different way of working and now actually wants to take more sort of for, big tech approach to tech. That does happen as well. I think a couple of things. One is you'll be surprised how much natural product talent you can find within the company. And I'm a big believer, I mean, I'm here because Uber had a program that would help you make that transition, right? And there are many other people on my team who've gone through that journey as well. Same thing happens at Google. So I think a huge part is that homegrown, find the people who already obsessed with the product, the ones who are the voice of the customer, the ones who think about, they're not comfortable with things just being as is, right? That's kind of what a PM is always doing is always how can we be better? What is the next problem? How can I look around the corner? So that's one big area I talk about. I think the other one as well is really make sure that depending on the stage of the product, you're clear on, you know, you're not hiring someone to come in and project manage. You actually understand the value that a product manager is going to bring. So spend a bit of time understanding that role. I say that actually to a lot of product managers with product marketing, which you might probably recognize.  And it's like, why don't you just ask the people? So I would actually spend time understanding the craft, meet other people in the industry, meet other companies at the stage. I spend a lot of time speaking to companies that want to hire that first product manager. And then finally, the skill sets are going into the weeds. Depending on where the product is, you might need a different kind of, a product manager at a different stage of their career, right? You know, we hire a product manager that is more icy, hands-on, can unblock the engineering team, help them kind of, you know, really bring that context to the problem. Or if we have multiple product managers, then now I'm thinking about hiring, you know, that manager of product managers, right? So that's also important. Understand the craft, right? Look within and understand sort of where your product is and what you need right now. Yeah. Totally, totally. That's awesome. That's really meaningful advice. A bit of a different swing at things. Sorry? Yeah, absolutely. I'm just looking at the questions on the side. Yeah. These are gonna be coming in from LinkedIn. But yes, I wanna take a stab at the flip side of that. You know, what kind of advice would you have for an aspiring PM who maybe doesn't have that set up in their organization to transition internally and is really looking externally and wants to build up skills and where do they go? And yeah, what kind of directional advice do you have for them? I mean, it's kind of a chicken and an egg, right? So I want to learn the craft, but I need a role to learn the craft and there's a bit of a loop. I think, you know, a couple of things. One is if you're in a company, I do think even if you believe there isn't a natural path, there is a way to kind of almost get yourself through the door by raising your hand up, working with your existing manager and saying, yeah, I wanna go shadow or donate 30% of my time for six months to kind of build that product management experience. And if you have the right kind of manager and ultimately what are we there for? It's to bring the best out of people. If you have the right kind of manager, they should understand that and they probably will say, hey, I'm probably gonna lose you anyway if I don't do this. So let me invest in you and keep you in the company, right? So that's one thing I would say. You'd be surprised a lot of the time in my career, I found roles that were almost created. I've seen that, you know, I've done it. So sometimes it's just the right person. So that's one aspect. The other aspect is actually do the work, right? Like actually put in the hours and do the work. It's easy to say, hey, I wanna be a product manager. You can do one of the courses, but also there are other things you can do there. Like, you know, spend time reading a lot of really good product management books so that you understand many because there isn't one path. Spend a lot of time sort of absorbing that knowledge. I spend a lot of time also finding networks of product managers if you can, some companies have talks or their conferences, go meet other people because when you put yourself out there, maybe somebody will also sort of pick that up that you are naturally, you have a natural product drive. And then I think the other one, this is probably a bit of a stretch, but start a side project, right? Like, you know, start talking about product management, find problems you're excited about, whether it's just writing about it, you're not actually building it, you're actually writing cool into what would be a PRD, so to speak. But those things kind of train your brain to look for the problems and how to think about it from a product sense. And I used to say to a lot of product managers, your entire life can be a PM. It's just, your entire life has lots of problems, right? So I'm constantly saying, there's a fantastic book, The Design of Everyday Things. Read that book. And as you read that book and you go through life, just think, if I was a product manager of this product, how would I, what would I do differently? I was a product manager of this tap. What would I have done? What affordances are there? What signals are there? So you're always training your brain to kind of say, what's the problem? How would I have approached it? What would be the cost of executing? And that's actually helping the neural networks in your brain learn the craft, right? So those would be my three things. Like really look within, you'd be surprised. Try to find that network, that community, put yourself, you know, sort of put yourself out there. And then third, yes, do the work. One thing when I was first getting into product marketing that I was doing, I was putting myself through school. You know, I couldn't take on unpaid internships for an example. I just couldn't, I was paying my way. But I wanted to develop this product marketing experience. So actually before I ended up at product school, I was working at a restaurant full time. And on the side, I reached out to a candle company on Instagram that I was buying candles from and asked them if they wanted me to put together a marketing strategy for them. You go. And it was just a way exactly like you're saying to execute that aspect of your brain and show something for it at the end. Like, look, I did something. She's being productive.  But yeah, find that time and no one's going to turn down free, free time, especially if you were, you know, you have other skills that people sort of recommend. So that's exactly what I'm talking about when I say put yourself up there. Yeah. And I add that color because I think that sometimes people think, well, I don't even know where to start with my own project. And I think even if you can identify a small need to help somebody else with, people are so thankful, you know. Exactly. Amazing. Kind of in line with that, a little bit divergent though. I want to talk a little bit about inspiration for you and where in your, it could be dated day, it could be kind of that North Star in your life. Where are you finding inspiration? Wow, yeah. So inspiration for me comes in many, many, many different ways. So I generally think one of the biggest things you can do as a product manager is to learn almost like training yourself how to think and pack and match, right? So I'm always trying to find things that draw a parallel for me. It could be art, it could be some other problem space that has absolutely nothing to do with mine. I spend a lot of time unpacking and reading about other products and what other product managers are doing. I spend a lot of time doing that. And I really sort of really care about the craft. So I spend a lot of time also following some of the, there are a lot of awesome, that sort of product Twitter is amazing, right? There are a lot of people talking about different aspects. So I spend a lot of time absorbing all of that. But I really think that what you, if you, ultimately what you're doing is problem solving. And so, what you're doing is trying to figure out and look into problems. I'm very much into, for example, astrology. So I spend a lot of time reading about that and reading about what new thing is coming in the astrological space. I spend a lot of time thinking about sports because guess what? When I'm on, I play tennis, when I'm on tennis court, there's a strategy, right?  So all these kind of tangential things that are constantly training your brain really help. And then just also it's great to, I mean, ultimately if you can find that inner calm, right? That inner sort of energy and excitement, wherever it comes from, you can channel that into the work, right? So you keep your soul and then you channel that into the work. So I'm, I play the piano, I love my tennis and I spend time trying to be better at those things. And they actually helped me be better at, you know, the sort of nine to five, although it's never really nine to five, of course. But yeah, nine to five. Funny joke as we are both coming to you live at 10, 20 PM. Yeah, just a little, just a little over time. That's awesome. And I, you know, I recently had the opportunity to take a vacation.  I hit the ground running. Yeah, it's crazy. Like you're saying, when you have that time to breathe and that space, I think it does more for you than just always being on the grind. Exactly. And if there's one feedback I'll give to most product managers is, do you have enough time in your week to think? And are you carving out time to refresh? Because it's just go, go, go, go, go, go, go. And you are not going to see the patterns and you're not going to see the problems and connect the dots if you don't take a step back. You can't take a step back when you're stressed and you're, you know, the best thing I can probably tell you to do is like have eight hours of sleep. It's probably the best thing ever because your brain will be just on a different plane. So absolutely, everything you just said, I delete all my apps when I go on holiday. I just delete them. I delete the Gmail, I delete calendar, I delete everything. So I can't even, like I'm just, I'm off. That's great. Yeah, I mean, that's, it's so important. It's so important. And we know, right? We know all the studies coming out about health and the long-term importance of taking care of ourselves. So on that, you've had an amazing product journey and it sounds like your background has been super, super diverse. You've worked across different continents, across companies. Can you tell us a little bit about the role of diversity for you personally and kind of what that looks like in your, in your role? Absolutely.   I do think one big part is if you can see it, you can be it. I always say that. So part of what I kind of really push for is it's very important that we show and celebrate those examples because it gives somebody who's sitting there, you know, thinking about a career or whatever. Oh, it's possible. I can actually, you know, I see it. So, oh, okay. It's possible. There's something that kind of unblocks. I think the other part as well is I used to have a colleague that always said the magic happens in the confluence of our differences. And I love that. Yeah, exactly. It's just so profound. I mean, we talked about that from the diversity of the different roles, like at the, you know, design engineering and actually the magic happens in that intersection. But it's the same with, you know, the diversity of our backgrounds, right? We all bring a different facet. When I was doing with my team, when we were doing a lot of work in Brazil, it was interesting how people on my team who were Indian, me being Nigerian, we could relate to some of the paradigms in Brazil. We're like, oh yeah, we get that. Oh yeah, you know, the things, and you could bring that to the product. And I think the other one as well is that if you're going to build for the world, you kind of have to represent the world. So, obviously there's so many facets of diversity, but I'm, for me, the growth for me now is actually going even further and trying to really be conscious of what I don't know, right? Because there's so many facets of diversity, the obvious sort of pillars, but then there's so many other things. Like am I being inclusive for people who have kids? Am I inclusive for people with, you know, who for, you know, as it comes to accessibility in the product? You know, I remember once we had a Figma file and it was blue, true story, blue and purple for some mockups. And guess what? Someone on my team was color blind. Never had that problem before. So blue and purple, if you're not, you know, that actually is the same for somebody who was color blind. And so we had to make it blue and orange. And since then I'm so aware of, you know, what we're even doing within the company. So, you know, all of this to say, the more we can have multiple facets, the more we can see new perspectives around problems. The more we can bring that magic out in the conference of the differences.  Yeah. And the numbers rely, by the way, right? Yeah. That's true. The products actually are better. So how do you take diversity and turn it from something that, you know, maybe companies or individuals are speaking about and really making it concrete and actionable? So the one big thing, and this is sort of, I say this about careers too, by the way, I always say if you were to ask a PM to go build a product, no PM would ever say, my goals, my sort of key result is to launch it next year. That would never be a goal. It would be clear things, you know, we want to increase this, we want to move that, we want to make sure we do at least two of these or three of that or whatever. There'd be concrete steps towards it. I say that about a career, PM your career, right? So I get promoted next year. And I say that about diversity. You can't solve a problem that you aren't able to articulate. You can't even come up with somebody else a question about strategy. Strategy is ultimately a very clear diagnosis of problems and deciding to focus on the subset of them with some guiding principles. That's really what it is. So you can't solve a problem and come up with a strategic approach to anything if you don't actually understand the problem. So tactically, how do you educate yourself in solving the problem? And for me, what I do is I'm always talking about it. Mike, for some people, it's uncomfortable. Get comfortable with that discomfort. That's when we're growing. That's what I say. The allies are the people who want to be allies within companies. They sort of lean into also talking about it. My ex-engineering partner at Uber just even had this post about it, right? And how, you know, he called out how it changed how we interviewed, right? Making sure that there were people in a panel, right? Making sure there were people reflective of different women and different backgrounds on a panel because then you can actually see how that candidate interacts and whether, you know, they're ready to have an inclusive perspective.  We'll talk about this, but the sort of educating yourself about the problem, educating yourself about how we have so many misrepresented, I want to call them memes, but they're like memes.  There are so many studies that show that those don't hold through and actually you end up with a much better product, ultimately, and therefore, the numbers for the business move. So tactically, concierge talking about it, right? Setting some very clear goals, whether it's we'll make sure, Rooney will make sure that before we close on a candidate, we must have a woman or, you know, someone of color, someone who is not straight, right?  And then reporting, how are we actually doing? I always say, if you wanted to create a dinner party and you wanted a diverse set of people, but you put a paper bag over your head, you have no idea who sat at the table, how on earth are you gonna know who's sitting at the table? You kind of have to talk about it. So this is my thing. Yeah, talk about the problems and set a plan. Amazing. I mean, if those aren't great words to wrap us up on, I don't know what else is. Problem is the very epicenter of product, right? Exactly, right? That's awesome. AB, I wanna be respectful of your time this evening. I know we are approaching probably bedtime, at least for me. Thank you so, so much for tuning in this evening and sharing all of these amazing insights with our audience, with me. I know that I've certainly learned a lot from you. Thank you so much for having me and I can see the chat is blowing up. Thank you so much for all sort of tuning in as well. Fantastic. Next time we'll get you in your time zone to help everybody. I'm looking forward to that, but we can be inclusive about the time zones too. Fantastic. Fantastic. Well, AB, you have a wonderful rest of your evening and thank you to everybody who tuned in this evening. Take care.


What's good y'all? Chris from jashyscasebrakes.com doing 2022-2023 Panini Mosaic basketball hobby, six-block break, PYT number four. We do the break first in the very very end. We'll give away a box of 21-22 Prism of Choice basketball needed to buy two or more teams per one entry. So if you got two, it's one, four, it's two, so on and so forth. But we're all set to go. PYT is the last six boxes of a case that we opened up on Saturday. Pretty juicy half-case. I'm hoping that the last six boxes are going to be as hot as they were. Andrew grabbed the last two teams for an entry and to knock this one out. But thanks again to everyone for knocking this one out. We got five and six, one more. Full case broke down into two half-cases on the set right now. I think this here's mosaic has been got something nice in that first stack. Just like I was going to say. This feels like this mosaic basketball has been pretty juicy. Some hot cases, some stacked boxes, some big hits all around so it's keep it going. No shot. No, I don't think that that picture is actually, I think he's done with wrestling. I don't think anyone wants anything to do with it. All right, here we go. First box, good luck. Our auto. It's going to be TJ Warren, Pictograph's auto, one of the new auto inserts this year. TJ Warren, that's Phoenix Sun's edition. It's going to go to Adam Kelly. All right, Tyree's maxi silver, silver and kind of Nasreed purple. But a razzle-dazzle Luka Donchish. Nice hit, Dallas. Hot start to this half-case there, man. Second razzle-dazzle of the case. First one was a Steph Curry. Not too bad right here. Luka Donchish is going to Dallas and Matthew. Nasreed as well. 21 out of 99. It's going to go to Minnesota and Joe. All introductions there, Master Steph. I don't think that's going to happen either. I think he's just going to get suspended like they announced today. I don't think there's any reason for him to get fired. I don't think that's going to happen either. I think he's just going to get suspended like they announced today. I don't think there's any reason for him to get fired. I don't think there's any reason for him to get fired. Blue Aaron Neesmith. 117 out of 199 for Indiana. Brickolette Jalen Williams for the Thunder. Right on my own quickly. Indiana Pacers when we go to David Badarino.  Dumb kid.  Simone Fanta Cio. Rikki for the Jazz. Out of 99. Utah going to David. But they're not going to fire him because of a fight. Russell Westbrook. Red. Cam Johnson. Jeremy Sohan. Silver. Going to Vaughan and the Spirit from the Last Kings pick down. A couple of sets this weekend already. It's been a fun Derrick White and Blue. It's been a fun start to the college football season here. 43 out of 199 for the Celtics. Going to go to William. Jabari Smith, Jr. Introductions. Kail Cusenbred is a power break away. All right. Oh, boy. Sluice bass is juiced here. All right. Here's box two. Our auto cook and early going to be Quentin Grimes. Colage Mosaic on the auto. The New York Knicks for Chris Butler. Second year for the New York Knicks. Oh, wow. A second Brazel Dazzle. Third of the case. Brazel Dazzle Trey Young for the Atlanta Hawks. Going to go to William. People definitely take that. Nice. Got a blue Malachi Bronim as well. One more for the Spurs and Vaughan. Out of 199. Wow. I was expecting that. Jed Williams under Jabari Smith, Jr. for the Rockets. Houston, by the way. Houston going to Chris Butler. One of the last few teams picked up. Shade and Sharp Intro. Oh, wow. Keen Murray on the rookie. Purple Tyus Jones out of 99 for Memphis. Alrighty, on Apollo. All the Paul is going to their Atlanta Magic and Sean. Andrew gets the Memphis Grizzlies. Tyus Jones last spot. Mojo Keegan Murray going to the Kings and Roy and the Portland Trailblazers. Shade and Sharp. Adam Kelly. Trey Young blue. One more Trey Young for this box. 147 out of 199 for William and the Hawks. Like Matthew and Straight Fire. Indiana Pacers. One more for David. Keen Murray on the Montage. All the Donners open the place. Coming up. Oh, yeah. There's Justin Steele without feeling up. Yeah, and in the ring, we've got Highlight. Got a little Lynic Red. Jalen Dern Silver, J. Nivy. And a Pink Terry Rose, Jr. 135 out of 149 for the Charlotte Hornets. It's going to go to Mark. J. Nivy Silver going to Detroit. It's going to go to Roy. Now, if we can just get a little warmer, let's move our parallels and our autos. We've got a little tip to rattle down. This is where the first two boxes of this break. We can get a third or even a stained glass. Won't be too bad. Looks like some gold. Looks like you're asking, you shall receive. Good luck, y'all. I hope it's cold and not just about the Utah Jazz player. Or it could be a gold jazz. I'm sure David would mind. It's got Utah. Our auto. Going to be Carlos Boozer, old school forward, Utah. Going to go to David. Former All-Star in Cleveland and in Chicago. It's all a ball player. Boozer on auto. And it's going to be a gold Victor Oladipo Miami Heat. It's going to go to William. First gold of the break. Very nice. Five out of 10 on the Victor Oladipo gold. Nice to go with the Jabari Smith Junior Overdrive. Nice pack. The first pack of this box. Pretty good. Dave Naivi. Paulo. Sharp intro. Chef Holmgren. To do Bay Pink for Atlanta. Out of 149. Paulo. William with the Hawks getting the Pink City Bay. And our first Chef Holmgren of the break. That's going to go to Chris Baller. Again, one of our last ones picked up. William Kovacevich for the Bulls. Going to go to Joe Robinson. 117 out of 199. Giannis Straight Fire. Second card for Milwaukee. Is that another goal? This is what I'm talking about. Utah. Trolling us, man. King Murray on the intro. Pink Reggie Ball for Dallas. 4 out of 149. You have to get another hit for the Mabs. That's out number two. Alright, nice first three boxes. Put an MPJ on the speckle. Big Denver. Andrew, one of the last two teams for the last ball. No, Joe. Ivy. Blue Ongaka Okongi out of 199. One more for Atlanta. Paulo. No variety. Could be white pink. Out of 149 for Chicago. Overdrive Shade and Sharp. Silver, no variety. Jay Neive. Could be white. Joe Robinson going with the Bulls. Nice strike. Pretty much defense. He could give you a cut on either side of the plate. He could put a sinker on either side of the plate. So many weapons to use once he gets ahead of the counter. Man, the work goes through. All is forgotten today. I'll miss. Got it. Goal. Sharp miss. Darrell Kelly in the change up matches his career. To start the eighth inning at 90 pitches. 60 strikes. Silver, Jay Neive and a blue. Second year, Joe and green. 8 out of 199 for Houston. Another Chris Butler team. Silver, Jay and Ivy. Another Keegan Murray going to the Kings. Ann Roy. Otters going on. Going to be Derrick White. Blue Derrick White auto. 27 out of 49. One more for Boston and William.  Good job. Good job. Good job. Good job. 23 out of 49 for Houston and William. Got some Vets for our auto so far. Super man. Wow. A pink and a stained glass. So pink, Danny Avigia for the Wizards. And Brian and a stained glass. LeBron, James. Matthew. Who got the razzle Dazzle Luca also gets the stained glass. LeBron going to the Lakers. Ooh. Not too bad of a day at the office. For Matthew. Piggy and the Avedigia, 143 out of 149, Jalen Brunson on the Silver Stair Max, as well. This case with the short prints, man. Juicy. All right, it's been a big day for the cases here. And Judge Kuboomer, is that another razzle? I don't know, what the? Are the razzles just like a regular inch or not? Razzle Dazzle, I'm gonna answer them in the box. That's crazy. That's our fourth razzle-dazzle of the six boxes. You know, the five so far. And our fifth so far in the whole case. What the heck? Anesthane Brunson. Telling you, Mosey, Mosey gives us stacks this year. All right, fifth box. Brun, Silver, Josh, Christopher, Red. What's the website again? Brun inserts in there for the Lakers. What a blue. Blue Pogo Bank here. A little color match for the Magic. Sean, 16 out of 199, nice hit, man. He grabbed a blue auto in the last half case of this. Now he gets a nice parallel to go with it. Nice stuff making razzle. So these are magical, it is now, smart-asset.com. That's close, that's close. This is AG1, foundation on nutrition to support whole body. I got a razzle-dazzle coming up, too, the fuck, y'all? Bioderms, minerals, pre-improbiotics, adaptive. Austin Reeves, all that. In there. Man, one more razzle-dazzle, okay. Sohan, a purple Jordan Quarkson to ignite me in the back. Our next razzle-dazzle is Kyrie Irving. Matthew, doubling up. Gets the WUCA earlier. Now the Kyrie. Nice stuff, man, congrats. To go with the LeBronston Goss, too. That's a break, man. Crazy half-case, man. Crazy, crazy case, really. Jordan Quarkson, purple out of 99, 17 out of 99, going to Utah, and David, another Sohan, going to Vaughn and the Spurs, another nice Ivy, going to Detroit, and a roll of Norris here. Gunner goes Duke, three-run ball for Gunner Henderson. Blue Reggie Jackson, out of 199, the NBA champ for Denver. Denver and Andrew, one of the last ones picked up once again, the last spot mojo there. So, our auto coming up, too. G90, all right, auto's coming up here. Good luck. Gonna be, wow. Ardava Sobonus. Sobonus senior, blue, Kulaj Moseg, old school for Adam Kelly. 11 out of 49, a little number match there, too. Nice. Arvita Sobonus, how come a ball player back in the day, man? Pink Pascal Siakam, out of 149, trick fire, Keegan Murray, as well. It's going to Toronto, going to William, in sixth and final box of a fat case. I'm gonna say something else.  What are you holding? Moseg. Is it two or four one-o-ones, right, Keegan? Yeah, the first six boxes of this had a, would we go bare one-o-one, and then a Jayden Hardy rookie-auto one-o-one. Jayden Williams' gold in the first half of this. Couple other golds. We got a big girl with Deeple gold in this. Six boxes. Chat out of 99. Not Chat out of 49, auto. Couple of Polly Polly colors. What a great case. Moseg is juiced, y'all. Five and six in the shop right now, the last case that we're doing on it for now. Moseg has been nasty, man, I'm telling you. Last block, good luck, y'all. Chatting Polly, Polly Intro. Little Tyree Smartin' for the Hawks. 176 out of 199 Hawks. They're kinda eatin' up here. Just parallels themselves with that, and that's what Gassel said. Got a job, noodle riding, very funny coloring. Nice Pollo Red for Orlando. Purple Johnathan Kominga, 19 out of 99. Shaked Fire Pollo, Stairmasters Kauai. JK for the Warriors and William. Couple of nice Polles in there for Sean. These reds, of course, aren't numbered. 10% are made up of plates. All two are considered their sparkly. Well, bold, THT. If you just have to build an electric car, that's all that will ever mean. An electric car. But the Prostar 2 is something more. Blue Jean Tartan for Philly, 151 out of 199. It's gonna go to Chris Butler. Come to Jabari, STL and William's intro on the silver there. Should have our odd coming up. Then we can wrap it up. Pollo, break away this time. Last odd, gonna be a Simone. Fantagia, blue on the rookie auto for Utah. Who's gonna do the batter in it? 33 out of 49 on the Simone. Our last odd, I should have a pink coming up as well. Gonna be another pink Siddiq Bay. William grabbing all the parallels here for Atlanta. 119 out of 149. Trick, fire, jaw and montage jaw. Man, what a full case, six boxes of this case. All the short prints, man, I'm telling you. One razzle-dazzle, blue Pollo, stained glass LeBron, gold Oladiego, Carlos Boozer, Quentin Grimes, Luca razzle-dazzle, Trey Young razzle-dazzle and the pictographs, crazy. Three razzle-dazzles and the stained glass LeBron James. Nice stuff, y'all, thanks again. We got five and six up on the site right now. But we got one more fun matter of business to attend to, our Prism Choice Box giveaway. Two plus teams, let's alphabetize like this so I can do it a little easier. So Adam has two, so he gets a spot. Andrew has two, he gets a spot. Brian had two, he gets a spot. Chris had four, gets two spots. David had two spots, he gets in. Joe with a spot. Mark with a spot. Matthew with a spot. Boy, he had three, counts just for one. Sean with one, Vaughn with one, and then Boy with one, two, three, four, five, six. So he gets three spots. All right, 13 spots total for this one, so good luck, y'all, one of 13 chance. Top name gets that 21-22 Prism Choice Basketball, which will be diced in random ones or at least one and two three times. Good luck, thanks again, everyone. One, it's a three crunch. Chris Butler, nice. He had two spots though, congrats, man. Well, y'all have to get in. Chris Butler, congrats, 21-22 Prism Choice Basketball. Show it off, I got it right here next to me. Right here. So handsome, Kate Cunningham brought up front. Congrats, man. Thanks again, y'all. Five and six on the site right now. We'll still do that Prism Choice giveaway for those too. I'll chat to hiskatesmakes.com. Bye bye.


All right, it is six in the morning. We're up so early because we've been invited to fly during a demolition of a power plant, crazy. They're knocking down some towers. We're gonna dive it. So guys, this is Sebastian. Hey, what's up? He made this happen. He called me yesterday. He did a Sentex C4 dine, and it's 600 pounds of sticks of dine. So there will be somewhat of an employment. Like on the bottom or the top? No, the top. Okay. They'll pull some of the top down. And then it comes, oh my gosh. Then it'll feel like a tree. And kind of all at once, like boom, boom. If you've got the drone up there, you ought to have an incredible shot. Yeah, that's awesome. They're only letting one drone in the air. Now I'm nervous because the responsible thing to do in this situation is just put a Mavic or a Phantom or something up there that you know is gonna get the shot. The responsible thing on the one, the one time is not to try to dive it. We're gonna try and dive it. The stack starts tipping. Then the two green towers, how long after that do those go down? Six seconds is when you'll hear the next set of booms. Okay, so it's two separate booms. Okay, so boom, start sipping. One, two, three, boom, fall in again. The legs and then kickers back here that actually push the top of the towers over. So we get one shot and one shot only because once it's down, they're not putting it back up for us. So I want to kind of get both events happening, get the tipping and get the dropping. Yeah. Flying the drones around is for our purpose of videoing. Not your purpose of having fun. Okay. These are the professional drone guys. All right, nice to meet you guys. You know there was only supposed to be one guy. Yes, I did. Sean made that call, the little men. Whatever they tell you to do. We do it. Do it. Yeah, you got it. So I'm gonna take you guys where you need to be and you're gonna stay right there. Right there. Not move at all. Okay. Don't move.  I'm just lying, yeah, I have the one and seven.  Cause his name's on the line right now. It's a special moment, okay. You got it. When you guys are done, you're gonna come back here and he'll take some of your footage and get it in the video. You might make the news tonight. Sweet. Okay. That's pretty cool. All right. We look worried. What? What are you thinking? Yeah, we've been playing the waiting game for a while and yeah, just nerves are settling in and I don't even get like a practice run or anything. They're only cleared for like the one flight. So I have no idea what to expect, what the RF situation is. It's just like kind of sketchy. We'll just do the best we can. We have waivers or the company has secured waivers with the FAA. We just provided my 107 number and I need to set up my phone so that I can text him right when I take off. I need to text him and then when I land, that also needs to be logged. So I've just got a text prepared here that says take off and I'm gonna have my phone ready. I'm gonna start to take off. I'm just gonna hit the send button, put the goggles down and go. Pull the freaking mind blowing. Grab it out of his hat.  Like, and they say, oh, it's three big booms. No, it was a succession of 50 times three. Oh, we good, dog. We nailed it. Oh, I'm freaking out. That was the coolest thing I have ever flown. That was it right there. Good job. Oh my God, I see that video. Drone landed. Was it worth it? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So it's good to fly there. And I went boom, boom, boom. Oh my gosh, you're right there. You're right there. I'm just gonna stick it in there, man. That is sick. I was counting down because I asked him, like, how many seconds are going to go? So I know he says it'll be exactly. So I was counting. I was ready to want to heard the pop and I was like, okay, now I've got six seconds until it collapses. So after the bang, he said it was gonna be, the building would start going in six seconds. So I was like, six, five, four, three, two, one. And it was, they didn't miss a mark. It was exactly like he said it. That was it. That was the best 40 seconds of flying ever. I was worried about you guys. You know that, right? They were good, yeah. Look like that. Another hair color. Another hair color. My hair used to be that color, but it wasn't mine. Is it your drone? Like actually? Yeah, that's the drone actually turning. The reporters are gonna freak. You think? Sure, oh yeah. Unbelievable freaking cool. This was the coolest thing on the refloat. Yeah. For sure. This was amazing. They told me they were gonna put it back up and give it two tries. But then they don't get paid and it's a whole different story.