No cheese. Activate cheese in your life. We're live. You're like, wait a minute. Anna, I didn't clean the camera off first. Please hold. Good hold. Good holding people. Can you have that in the background, the TV? I don't know. Let me turn it off. What's up, y'all? We just got here like an hour ago. There's babies. Jeff may leave here with baby fever. That will not happen. It will. Do you want to put that on here? What is that? Sure. Linda's got sippy sippy. Tink. So do we. Y'all remember Jen from the last time we were here? I'm Jeff's favorite sister. The only one. Okay. Why do we have to have that? Details. That is not important. So not important. So we're not doing any resin tonight. We could do some questions if you guys have questions. Or you'd like to see my mom's house. Yeah. And my dad's artwork. We're a big part of my art influence comes from. Hi, Heather. Hi, Mom. So we brought stuff to art with, but after forever driving, we decided that tonight, these, these women are Let me see if I can. It's Wednesday night. It's hump night. And it's after dark. Let me turn off the wifi. It might do better. Is it really sketchy? I don't know. They said it was buffering. So now it's, it should be better. So, we, we brought stuff to pour with, but we are completely beat from the drive up. So we were going to do like a Q and A if you guys wanted to ask any questions of me. Or we can just. Jeff, Jen, Papa Danny. But you guys know we're going to Australia. Late, late April. Other side of Australia though. Well, we're doing Perth, Brisbane, Adelaide, Sydney Melbourne. Wow. The full. Show us dad's art. All right. I'll show you some amazing artwork. Y'all. Amazing artwork. Let's see here. Hold on. My sister thinks she is the best person. Here's a piece. He started a long time ago. It's the Aztec moon goddess. Right. That's on wood. That's all black. Attuned to her face. And why she looks that way. Yes. Her mother at one time announced to the family that she was going to have another baby.  You're going to embarrass us. And so they had a family plot. The sons and she was the only daughter that they decided that they wanted to kill her because it would be an embarrassment for her to have another child. Gotcha. In an age, I would say it's a pretty big piece. That's my hint. It's kind of hard to see it's a little dark in here. When they were here, they lived that long. It's an Aztec piece there. The daughter was at that meeting.  Well, at that instant, the baby was born fully knowledgeable. What else we got here? My brother made those chairs. And he killed them all. And he saw that the sister was ahead of him.  And he felt so bad. You know, once the mother told him that she was coming to warn him.  And he throws it up into the sky. And when that happened, this is what I gather happened. They had like an eclipse. The moon came out. You know. And what they said was that the old moon, everything that was associated with it, came down to earth and crawled on the rocks. And it's like scorpions and stuff. Gotcha. And that sheeps which is the lady of the moon came I'm listening. Let me try to show y'all some of Jeff's early art. Where's the stairs light? Upstairs light? You have one up there. There's two in there. I'll show you all this stuff first. So this is the living room. And Soon y'all So you want to see some like OG artwork from Jeff? I'm not going all the way. Yeah, because I need the light. I don't know about having this music playing while yeah I'm not going all the way down there. So that's some of it. Let me tell you. I'll show you another part. Moose here too. No, it's not me unless it was foreshadowing for Jeff's future. I don't know where these lights are. Okay, bear with me while I find some lights. Looks like a party hallway. Oh, here they are. No. Why is that turning that off enough? That's a print. That's one of my first prints I ever made. Basically the home is a Jeff art gallery. Here's a piece. I know, but I can't. It's no light. Phone? In the bathroom? Yeah, just pull that thing down. Pull it down. Okay, you pulled the wrong one. Isn't that what you wanted? Just some light. Yeah, that'll work. Here, show them this one. I'm trying to, but you keep moving. I love this piece. Yeah. It's a great bathroom. His mom's got like a claw foot tab. Everything's like vintage in this house. Love it so much. Anyways, do you guys have any questions for Jeff and me? Jeff and I? Me and Jeff? Jeff and I. I've been in the car too long. This house is literally a living and breathing creature. I know, we definitely have to show them the outside. So no questions? Jeff and me. Perfect. The boxes. Hi, Patty. Sherry, we are at Jeff's parents' house in Kansas. I'm exhausted from the drive, but other than that, we are brilliant. Thanks, Anita. Does Jeff have an Indian heritage? Not sure. Angela, soon. We saw the Ivy on the outside last time. It's still dead from it being the fall. Yeah. Laura, can't wait to see what you paint on your round. The drive was left at noon and got here at 7.30. Well, we made a couple more stops than normal. We kind of took our time and we ran into some traffic too. This is the color of the purple hoodie. It's actually the purple hoodie that we have on the website. It doesn't have the same thing. Jeff has the black zip up on. Moose here. He's downstairs. Why don't you paint the sides on the canvas? Well, we do if it's requested by the client that purchases them. If they don't request it, then odds are that they like the organic look of the paint dripping off the sides. We do it either way. In our classes, we show how we finish the sides if someone wants to have them painted. I'll do a video on that. Do we have a video? Yes, it is Thanksgiving here. I think he's mostly Irish. A little bit of German. A Dutch. Right, Sweet Pea? That's awesome, Patty. Thank you. Yes, we are here for Thanksgiving. Hi, Ken. He's in Grant's Pass. Go by until Mike and them, we said hi. Linda, I will check the group. We're in Kansas. If you guys come to San Fran, announce it at least a week earlier. Absolutely will. I'm glad you liked it, Sherry. I have a video that I'll post after this feed post. I'll post a video of the finished piece from last night. Hi, Sherry. What's your favorite dish? Um, probably my favorite dish in gravy is my favorite. Thanksgiving. Hi there. A lot of our... We're up here, Moo. My family lives mostly in Alabama. Thanks, Vamp. We are not pouring tonight because we were in a car for like almost eight hours. And there's so many people here. Moo came to say hi. Come here. What are you doing, Miss? Enjoy the Thanksgiving. Do you have any Black Friday shopping? If we see something we need for a studio, I'm sure we'll get it. I think your best work is on huge pieces. Agreed. Yeah, it's so much easier. That's what the scary thing is, like, not making enough. I am not vegan. I am definitely a steak eater. It's my favorite thing. Pia, it is not after dark. I guess maybe it is after dark. Stone Coat worked for... Stone Coat, y'all don't forget the code for ATD at Stone Coat. Changed from ATD to y'all. A-Y-A-L-L. Yep. I don't know about cooking in turkey with a flamethrower. Your Chihuahuas do that digging thing. He's just quirky like that. How cold is it out? What's up, Dee? It's nice. It's about a good 40-something out there right now. Love the art behind you. These are way vintage prints. Yeah, my grandmother had that in her house. Isn't that cherub?  Should the Stone Coat be on the base coat? Be on the thicker side or thinner side to get the best sells? Um... Probably the thinner side. Where is Kansas? It is above Oklahoma, which is above Texas. So we drove through two states. I've just been abandoned by both my boys. He's on his way down. What city in Kansas? We are in Wichita. Dee, we are here for Jeff's family's Thanksgiving. What's up, Laura Taylor? So we're not doing a poor tonight. We will be doing a poor tomorrow. It'll probably be earlier in the day because people will be doing like the family thing at night. So... We'll have some of Jeff's nephews and cousins in tomorrow. So we'll be doing a poor with them. We brought all of the things so that we can let his other... Come up here. Come here. Help you? What? You know I'm on video. What do you need? Do you need something? What? He's a mess. Absolute mess. So yeah, so tomorrow we'll be teaching some of his nephews how to poor. They didn't get to do it last time we were here. Philly, Phil, don't say that too loud. He will hear you. Y'all, he just looks at me like it's a time. Time to go. Time to go. Time to go. Go outside. Okay. Calm down. We'll go. So, tomorrow we'll be doing pores for y'all. Most of you have his own channel. I thought about like strapping a GoPro to him just to see what he would do. Let me sneak. So this is... We'll share it. No. No. Hi. This is the grand baby. Hello. Such a cutie. Alright y'all, I don't know how dark it's going to be out here but there's skeletons on the back porch for good measure I suppose. Because Halloween. Anyways, we just wanted to stop in and tell you guys what was up. Tomorrow with a something we're going to do a pore tomorrow. He didn't get to do it last time so he felt bad. Hi Tammy. Hug mom and Jess for me and daddy. So we'll be doing a pore tomorrow. I will post in ATD's group what time that's going to be. So till then I'll post a video in a minute to show about what time. Oh, tomorrow. What time do you think he'll be over? I told everybody to come over. Oh yeah, it's going to be at your place. So we'll take all the stuff over.  But I'm going to try to have my stuff done by three. Boys, I'll be there any time. So around thirty four o'clock tomorrow and I'll post to let you guys know what time. For sure in the ATD group. What's up Heather? Thanks Molly. So after this video post I'm going to post a video of the completed piece that I did two days ago. No worries Lucy. We didn't do anything crazy. You didn't miss anything at all. What? Show me outside. Okay, we'll show them the outside. Show them the outside. Still, it looks awesome. Show them this. Take them out. Can they see it? Yeah. I bet if you switch it around, can you switch it? Still not so much. I'm using a torch and a heat gun. Let me go grab him before he runs off. The difference between a torch and a heat gun torches fire. So it's real easy to burn or scorch your resin. And the heat gun is, it's super hot or you can the heat gun we use, you can turn down to just air and then you turn it up to really high. But it's basically like a blow dryer. It doesn't blow out like a blow dryer but you can push the resin around and make different effects with it. With the heat gun, I'm sorry, with the torch it's mainly to pop the bubbles. If you get a good, a really good torch that the fire comes out a little bit more than like a little hand torch, you can push the resin around a little bit with that but you risk scorching it or burning it. There's definitely less risk of scorching with a heat gun as opposed to a torch in my opinion. However, I have been burned with a torch and never, nope, I've been burned with a heat gun and never with a torch. So take that for what it is. And the torch what? Does it move the resin? The torch that we used that stone coat it sure did. It moved it a little bit but like it makes it, it does awesome stuff with it.  The way a torch moves the resin is that it really liquefies it a lot which makes it move whereas with and it's just the pressure coming out of the bottle of propane that makes it move. Right there. Right there. Whereas with a heat gun there's actual air blowing and that gives more movement than with just a torch. The bigger the torch the more movement as well. It's not the size it's how you use it. Alright are we saying bye? Yeah the door is great. Yeah I love this door. So with that said on tomorrow around four o'clock also right after this video I'm going to post a better video of yesterday's piece which is still for sale exactly patty TWSS and that should be our next code to change it ever again. TWSS right? Don't forget the stone coat code changed to y'all I think it has a capital Y. And we'll see y'all tomorrow we love you all thank you so much for tuning in I will be answering emails best I can while I'm here Thornton Artist Till Death 2T's 2L's and all of that's in the description box below we love you all so so much but kind of one another because you never know if he's going through I'm going to kill him in a minute so anyways bye I said bye


Live from San Francisco, it's theCUBE. Covering IBM Think 2019, brought to you by IBM. Hello everyone, welcome back. Live here in San Francisco, it's theCUBE's coverage of IBM Think 2019. I'm John Furrier, Stu Miniman. Stu, four days, we're on our fourth day, the sun's shining. They shut down Howard Street here at IBM. Big event for IBM in San Francisco, not Las Vegas. A lot of great cloud action, a lot of great AI data developers. Great story, good to see you again. Our next two guests, Julie Lockner, Director of Offering Management Portfolio Operations at IBM Data Plus AI, great to see you. Thank you, it's great to see you too. Thanks for coming on. And Jay Lindbergh, Director of Offering Management, IBM, Data Plus AI, thanks for coming on. Thank you guys, great to see you. So we've chatted many times at events, the role of data, so we're religious about data. We, data flows through our blood, but IBM has put it all together now. All the reorgs are over, everyone's kind of the table is set for IBM. The data path is clear, it's part of applications. Feeding the apps, AI is the key workload inside the application. This is now a fully set up group, give us the update, what's the focus? Yeah, it's really exciting because if you think about it, before we were called IBM analytics, and that really is only a part of what we do. Now that we're data plus AI, that means that not only are we responsible for delivering data assets and technology that supports those data assets to our customers, but infusing AI not only in the technologies that we have, but also helping them build applications so they confuse AI into their business processes. It's pretty broad, I mean data is very much a broad swath of things. Analytics to wrangling data, setting things up, cataloging them, take me through how you guys set this up, how do you present it to the marketplace, how are clients engaged with it, because it's pretty broad. Sure, sure. But it needs to be specific, take us through the methodology. So you've probably heard a lot of people today talk about the ladder to AI. This is IBM's view of how we explain our client's journey towards AI. It really starts at the bottom of the rung of the ladder where we've got the organized, sorry, collection of information, collect your data. Once you've collected your data, you move up to the next rung, which is the organized. And this is really where all the governance stuff comes in. This is how we can provide a view across that data, understand that data, provide trust to that data, and then serve that up to the consumers of that information so they can actually use that in AI. That's where all the data science capabilities come in, allowing people to actually be able to consume that information. So the bottom set is just really kind of all the hard and heavy lifting that data science actually don't want to do. I'm writing algorithms, the collecting, the ingesting of data from any source. That's the bottom. And then talk about that next layer up from the collection. So collect is the physical assets or the collection of the data that you're going to be using for AI. If you don't get that foundation right, doesn't really make sense, but you have to have the data first. The piece in the middle that Jay was referring to that's called organize, our whole divisions are actually organized around these ladders to AI. So collect, organize, analyze, infuse. On the organize side, as Jay was mentioning, it's all about inventorying the data assets, knowing what data you have, then providing data quality rules, governance, compliance type offerings that allow organizations to not just know your data, trust your data, but then make it available so you can use your data and the users are those data scientists that the analytics teams and the operational organizations that need to be able to build their solutions on top of trusted data. So where does the catalog fit in? Which level does that come into? Yeah, so think of the data catalog as the DNS for data. It's the way in which you can provide a full view of all of your information, whether it's structured information, unstructured information, data you've got on-prem and your data lake, data you've got in a cloud somewhere. That's in the organized layer, right? That's all in the organized layer. So if you can collect that information, you can then provide capabilities that allow you to understand the quality of that data, know where that data's come from. And then finally, if you serve that up inside a compelling business-friendly experience so that a data scientist can go to one place, quickly make a decision on if that's the right data for them and allow them to go and be productive by building a data science model, then we're really able to kind of move the needle on making those data science organizations efficient, allowing us to build better models to transform their business. Yeah, and a big part of that is, if you think about what makes Amazon successful is because they know where all their products are from the vendor to when it shows up on the doorstep. What the catalog provides is really the similar capability of, I would call it inventory management of your data assets where we know where the data came from. It's source and that collect layer, who's transformed it, who's accessed it, if they're even allowed to see it. So if data privacy policies are part of that and then being able to serve it, just serve up that data to those users, being able to see that whole end to end lineage is a key critical point of the ladder to AI, especially when you start to think about things like bias detection, which is a big part of the analyzed layer. You know, one of the things we've been digging into on theCUBE is, you know, is data the next flywheel of innovation? You talk about, you know, it used to be, I just had my information, many years ago we started talking about, okay, I need to be able to access all that other information. We hear things like, you know, 80% of the data out there isn't really searchable today. So how do you see data, data gravity, all those pieces as the next flywheel of innovation? Yeah, I think it's key, right? I mean, we've talked a lot about how, you know, you can't do AI without information architecture, right? And it's absolutely true. And getting that view of that data in a single location, so it is like the DNS of the internet, right? So you know exactly where to search, you can get hold of that data, and then you've got tools that give you self-service access to actually get hold of the data without any need of support from IT to get access to it. It's really a key to that. Yeah, but to the point you're just asking about data gravity, right? I mean, being able to do this where the data resides. So for example, we have a lot of our customers that are mergers and acquisitions. Some teams have a lot of data assets that are on-premises, others have large data lakes in AWS or Azure. How do you inventory those assets and really have a view of what you have available across that landscape? Part of what we've been focusing on this year is making our technology work across all of those clouds, right? And having a single view of your assets but knowing where it resides. Yeah, so Julie, this environment is a bit more complicated than the deal data warehousing, or even what we were looking at with big data and Hadoop and all those pieces. Isn't that the truth? Help explain why we're actually going to be able to get the information, leverage, and drive new business value out of data today when we've struggled so many times in the past. Well, I think the biggest thing that's changed is the adoption of DevOps, right? And when I say adoption of DevOps and things like containerization and Docker containers, Kubernetes, the ability to provision data assets very quickly, no matter where they are, build these very quick value-producing applications based on AI, artificial intelligence APIs, is what's allowing us to take advantage of this multi-cloud landscape. If you didn't have that DevOps foundation, you'd still be building ETL jobs and data warehouses, and that was 20 years ago, right? Today, it's much more about these micro-services-based architecture, building up these data. Well, that's the key point, and the fused part of the stack, I think, or ladder stack, ladder. Ladder. Ladder to success is key because you're seeing the applications that have data native into the app has to have certain characteristics, whether it's a real-time health care app or retail app, and we had some, the retail folks on earlier, it's like, oh my God, this now has to be addressable very fast, so the old fenced-off data warehouse, yeah, even that data, pull it over, just you need a sub-second latency, or a millisecond. So this isn't now a requirement. That's right. So how are people getting there? What are some use cases? Sure, I'll start with the health care because you brought that up. I mean, one of the big use cases for technology that we provide is really around taking information that might be real-time or batch data and providing the ability to analyze that data very quickly in real-time to the point where you can predict when someone might potentially have a cardiac arrest. Right, in yesterday's keynote that Rob Thomas presented, a demonstration that showed the ability to take data from a wearable device, combine it with data that's sitting in an Amazon MySQL database, be able to predict who is the most at risk of having a potential cardiac arrest, and then present that to a call center of cardiologists. So this company that we work with iCure really took that entire stack, collect, organize, analyze, infuse, and built an application in a matter of six weeks. Now, that's the most compelling part is we were able to build the solution, inventory their data assets, tie it to the industry model, healthcare industry model, and predict when someone might potentially have a risk. You got that demo on you, the little device? Oh, I do, of course I do. Come on, bring it out. I know, I know. So here is, this is called a Braveheart Life Sensor, and essentially it's a Bluetooth device. I know if you put it on. I put it on, it'll track biometric. It'll start capturing information about your heart, ECG, and on Valentine's Day, right? My heart to yours. Happy Valentine's Day to my husband, of course. The ability to be able to capture all this data here on the device, stream it to an AI engine that can then immediately classify whether or not someone has an anomaly in their ECG signal. You couldn't do that without having a complete ladder to AI capability. So real-time telemetry from the heart, so I see timing's important if you're about to have a heart attack. Yeah. Pretty important. And that's a great example of kind of, you mentioned the speed. It's all about being able to capture that data in whatever form it's coming in, understand what that data is, know if you can trust that data, and then put it in the hands of the individuals that can do something valuable with the analysis from that data. Yeah, you have to be able to trust it. So you brought up earlier bias and data, so I'm going to bring that up in context to this now. This is just one example of wearables, Fitbits, all kinds of things happening in healthcare, retail, all kinds of edge, real-time, is bias of data, and the other one's privacy because now you have a new kind of data source going into the cloud. Exactly. And then so this fits into what part of the ladder, so the ladder needs a secure piece. Yeah, it does, so that really falls into that organized piece of that ladder, the governance aspects around it. If you're going to make data available for self-service, you've got to still ensure that that data's protected and that you're not going to go and break any kind of regulatory law around that data. So we actually can use technology now to understand what that data is, whether it contains sensitive information, credit card numbers, and expose that information out to those consumers, yet still masking the key elements that should be protected. And that's really important because data science is a hugely inefficient business, all right? Data scientists are spending too much time looking for information. And worse than that, they actually don't have all the information available that they need because certain information needs to be protected. But what we can do now is expose information that wasn't previously available, but protect just the key parts of that information so we're still ensuring it's safe. That's a really key point. It's the classic iceberg, right? What you see, oh, data science is going to change our game or our business. And then when they realize what's underneath the water, it's like all this setup, incompatible data, dirty data, data cleaning, and then all of a sudden it just doesn't work. Well, right? This is the reality. You guys are seeing this, you see that? Yeah, absolutely. I think we were only just really at the beginning of a kind of a crest of a wave here. I think organizations know they want to get to AI. The ladder to AI really helps explain and helps to understand how they can get there. And we're able then to kind of solve that through our technology and help them get there and drive those efficiencies that they need. Yeah, just to add to that, right? I mean, now that there's more data assets available, you can't manually classify, tag, and inventory all that data, determine whether or not it contains sensitive data. And that's where infusing machine learning into our products has really allowed our customers to automate the process. I mentioned the only way that we were able to deploy this application in six weeks is because we used a lot of the embedded machine learning to identify the patient data that was considered sensitive, tag it as patient data. And then when the data scientists were actually building the models in that same environment, it was masked. So they knew that they had access to the data, but they weren't allowed to see it. It's perfectly like, especially with HIMS conference this week as well. You were talking about this there. Great use case with healthcare. Yeah, well, I'd love to hear you speak about the ecosystem being built around this, everything, open APIs, I'm guessing, and what kind of partners are- Yeah, I mean, Jay, talk a little bit about ORS. Yeah, so one of the key things we're doing is ensuring that we're able to keep this stuff open. We don't want to curate our proprietary system. We're already big supporters of open source, as you know, in IBM. One of the things that we're heavily invested in is our open metadata strategy. Open metadata is part of the open source ODPI foundation, Project Egeria, defines a standard for common metadata interchange. And what that means is that any of these metadata systems that adopt this standard can freely share and interchange metadata across that landscape, so that wherever your data is, whichever systems it's stored in, wherever that metadata is harvested, it can play part of that network and share that metadata across those systems. I'd like to get your thoughts on something, Julie. You've been on the analyst side, you know, at IBM. Jay, if you could weigh in on this, too, it'd be great. Here, we see all the trends that go to all the events, and one of the things that's popping up that's clear within the IBM ecosystem is because you guys have a lot of business customers, is that a new kind of business app developer is coming in, and we've seen data science highlight the citizen data scientists, so if data is code, part of the application, and all the latter stuff kind of falls into place, that means we're going to see new kinds of applications. So how are you guys looking at this? This is kind of not like the cloud native hardcore DevOps developer. It's the person that says, hey, I can innovate a business model. I see a business model innovation that's not so much about building technology, it's about using insight and a unique formula or algorithm to tweak something. That's not a lot of programming involved, because with cloud and cloud private, all these backend systems, that's an ecosystem partner opportunity for you guys. But it's not your classic ISV, so there's a new breed of business apps that we see coming. Your thoughts on this? Yeah, it's almost like taking business process optimization as a discipline and turning it into micro applications. You want to be able to leverage data that's available and accessible, be able to insert that particular artificial intelligence machine learning algorithm to optimize that business process and then get out of the way. Because if you try to reinvent your entire business process, culture typically gets in the way of some of these things. But it's an application value, because there's value creation here, right? So you were talking about, so is this a new kind of genre of developer? Or is this just a? It really is. I mean, if you take the citizen data science example that you mentioned earlier, it's really about lowering the entry point to that technology. How can you allow individuals with lower levels of skills to actually get in and be productive and create something valuable? It shouldn't be just a practice that's held away for kind of the hardcore developer anymore. It's about lowering the entry point with a set of tools. One of the things we have in Watson Studio, for example, our data science platform is just that. It's about providing wizards and walkthroughs to allow people to develop productive use models very easily without needing hardcore coding skills. Yeah, but I also think though that in order for these value-added applications to be built, the data has to be business-ready, right? That's how you accelerate these application development life cycles. That's how you get the new class of application developers productive is in making sure that they start with a business-ready foundation. So how are you guys going to go after these new market? What's the marketing strategy? Again, this is like forward pioneering kind of things happening, what's the strategy? How are you going to enable this? What's the plan? Well, there's two parts of it. One is when Jay was mentioning the open metadata repository services, our key strategy is embedding catalog everywhere and anywhere we can. We believe that having that open metadata exchange allows us to open up access to metadata across these applications. So really that's kind of first and foremost is making sure that we can catalog and inventory data assets that might not necessarily be in the IBM cloud or in IBM products. That's really the first step. The second step I would say is really taking all of our capabilities, making them from the ground up micro services enabled, delivering them through Docker containers and making sure that they can port across whatever cloud deployment model our customers want to be able to execute on and being able to optimize the runtime engines, whether it's data integration, data movement, data virtualization, based on the data gravity that you had mentioned. This is a whole new developer program opportunity to bring to the market. Absolutely, yeah, I mean there is, I think there is a huge opportunity from an education perspective to help our customers build these applications, but it starts with understanding the data assets, understanding what they can do with it and using self-service type tools that Jay was referring to. Yeah, and all of that underpinned with the trust. If you don't trust your data, the data scientists is not going to know whether or not they're using the right thing. So the latter is great, great way for people to figure out where they are. Like looking at the mirror or the organization. How early is this? What inning are we in? How do you guys see the progression? How far along are we? Obviously you have some data examples. Some people are doing it end to end. What's the maturity look like? What's the uptake? Yeah, go ahead Jay. So I think we're at the beginning of a crest of a wave, right? As I say, there's been a lot of discussion so far. Even if you compare this year's conference to last year, a lot of the discussion last year was what's possible with AI? This year's conference is much more about what are we doing with AI, right? And I think we're now getting to the point where people can actually start to be productive and really start to change their business through that. Yeah, I know just to add to that. I mean, the latter to AI was introduced last year and it has gained so much adoption in the marketplace and our customers. They're actually organizing their business that way. So the collect divisions are the database teams are now expanding to Hadoop and Cloudera and Hortonworks and Mongo. They're organizing their data governance teams around the organized pillar where they're doing things like data integration, data replication. So I feel like the maturity of this latter to AI is really enabling our customers to achieve it much faster than they have before. I was talking to Dave Vellante about this and we're seeing that, you know, we've been covering IBM since it's the 10th year of theCUBE all 10 years. It's been watching the progression. The past couple of years it's been kind of setting the table. Everyone seems to be pumping that it makes sense. Everything's hanging together. It's done one group. Data is not one, this group does that group. It's all data AI, all analysts, all Watson. It's all smart and the latter just allows you to understand where a customer is and then fill those solutions and. And we mentioned the emphasis on open source. You know, it allows our customers to take an inventory of what do they have internally with IBM assets externally open source so that they can actually start to architect their information architecture using the same kind of analogy. An opportunity for developers too. Grave, Julie, thanks for coming on. Jay, appreciate it. Thank you so much for the opportunity. Happy Valentine's Day. Happy Valentine's Day. We're at theCUBE. I'm John Furrier. I'm live in San Francisco at the Moscone Center. The whole street shut down Howard Street. Huge event, 30,000 people. We'll be back with more day four coverage after this short break.


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to the Sunday live stream and we got a lot of things to cover, so let's just jump right in. Today, what I want to do is, like the thumbnail and title suggest, we're going to talk about summaries and summaries of a lot of information that is condensed into smaller parts. And thankfully, I've got someone that's going to help me. And that will be Tony from Thinking Crypto. My man, what's up? Hey, Rob, great to be here. Thank you for having me. Dude, it's been how long have we been in this game? Man, we've both been here since the 2017 bull run. I got in late 2016, so we're about around the same time, but yeah, we're like OGs now. Imagine, well, when we got in it, that was kind of laughable to think about, because it was like all the people before us, now here we are and people are looking like, hey, I'm a class of 2021. I'm like, really? 2021? Yeah, that's what it is. So, everybody, if you're not familiar, me and Tony, we've been on this parallel path for quite some time. We finally got together and did a show. And if you are so inclined, there's a link in the description. You can follow Tony on X. And I didn't notice this until today that your shirt in your picture is fire. I always thought it's a Thinking Crypto, because I never zoomed in.  And then also, you got a great channel here on YouTube. And we're going to go over a lot of these great interviews. And we're going to break it down by the miners, the corporations, the regulators, or the congressmen and women that you've interviewed. And that's a lot of people and also some titans of industry like Raoul Powell, Kathy Wood, or Yusko, and then the mooch. So before we get into that, Tony, how'd you get this? Where'd you get this shirt, man? And how could I get one of these? So not to shill here, but I do have it on my merchandise store. So if you want to grab one, you can do it.  So trying to start the movement, because speaking to the folks in DC, like at the Blockchain Association and the Chamber, believe it or not, the content we're making, the tweets we're putting out, it's having an impact because the dynamic has changed. In the past, before social media, you could easily control the narrative by having TV ads or radio or print. Now, people are on social media. And if you're generating buzz, it helps to change the narrative and change the optics.  No kidding. So, okay, you know what, I was going to start the other way, but let's do it that way. So instead of starting with like, you know, Fred Thiel and Zach and Saylor, let's start with the congressmen and women, because these guys are pretty big of our proponents of crypto. You got Tom Emmer, you got Warren Davidson. I follow both of those guys, French Hill, Darren Soto, Mike Flood. So talk to us about the takeaways that you've had when you've interviewed these gentlemen. What's been the consensus for what they're talking about? And like you say, like, what are we doing here in the space to kind of bring things forward as far as crypto? Sure. So there's multiple levels to this. You know, when it comes to politics, right, there is certainly policies, but a big part of politics is optics and whose narrative is winning. And you see, that's why Elizabeth Warren will take time out of her day to tweet bad things about crypto, right? Or foot, I should say. And that has an impact. It drives clicks, impressions and all that. So there's that layer. And certainly these congressmen who get the technology, they recognize that as well. That's why Warren Davidson would talk about his restructuring of the SEC bill and tweet, fire Gary Ganser, right? So remember and so forth. They're not doing that for fun, because they know that this is part of politics is a game of optics and narratives and the more content we put out there, the more impact we will have. And from interviewing these folks, one of the things that give me hope is that they get the technology. They may be the handful right now and the numbers are growing, but they get it. And they are trying to take action. Obviously, the majority of them are on the Republican side. Don't get me wrong, there are Democrats who support crypto, but there are the majority on the Republican side. And unfortunately, they just have control of the house right now. And from talking to Tom Emmer and these folks, Elizabeth Warren and Maxine Waters, these folks have a lot of power. So it's hard to, for example, hold Gary Ganser accountable. So they're trying their best to do the optics play. And that's why Patrick McHenry came out and said, don't make me subpoena you now for the FTX documents and things like that. But I'm really happy that you have these Republicans and some Democrats who are on board who get it and they're making a push. Hey, yeah, it's interesting that these guys are actually, because when I got in, it wasn't congressmen and women were talking about crypto. They certainly, the only thing that if they did talk about it, what they were saying was the same thing that Jamie Dimon was saying. And of course, Elizabeth Warren is saying that this is for illicit activity. It is for the cartels. It is for sex trafficking. It is for the most vile of circumstances. But it seems like things just have changed. So now that you've talked to them, when you first started to interview them, to like more recently, because I think you just had Tom on not too long ago, has it been like, has the tone changed dramatically or has it just been a little bit of a subtle thing? Yeah, you know, going back to what you're saying, when we got in, it was taboo to talk about crypto and even, you know, align yourself with it. And not only with the politicians, but Wall Street, right? They did not want to touch this thing. Everybody was watching Jamie Dimon in 2017. I remember September 2017, when he came out and he made his big statements, right?  I'm going to fire anybody who touches this as JP Morgan, right? That was that time. But I think education was the big factor. And that's where the Chamber of Digital Commerce, Blockchain Association, Coin Center, and all these folks, and don't get me wrong, companies like Coinbase, Circle, and so forth, started educating, going to DC and spending time there really helped. And, you know, it's, I don't want to sound like an aegis, but there are the younger members of Congress who got it quicker than some of the older, right? And those who maybe were more familiar with technology, they picked up on it.  This is the next layer on the internet. And there's an opportunity here. So I would say, from the folks I've interviewed, like Tom Emmer and so forth, many of them already understood it when I got around to interviewing them. It seems like, like I said, the advocacy groups and the lobbying groups did a great job educating them about it. Yeah, you know what? So like, so everybody who's listening home, the reason why I'm so interested in this is because I like to see the paradigm shift of the public consciousness. Because when we take a look at it beforehand, when I got in, it was, it was just numbers go up.  And then, of course, you got into it behind, of course, the reasoning behind why Bitcoin and some digital assets actually work. And one of the things that I found was interesting, like you just said, is that, of course, like some of the people, younger ones, just kind of got it. But the other ones took a little bit of time, and that's okay. And it just takes a little bit of time. There was this story that I just got from, it was Scott Milker from the Wolf of All Streets. And he interviewed the mooch, scary moochie, which you have done as well. And one of his stories that the mooch talked about was how he back in 2018 talked to Larry Fink. And Larry Fink told him, what are you doing? Why are you in Bitcoin? That's dumb. Essentially, that's what he said.  So once you do that, then come back and we'll talk. And he said, just how important it was that they did the homework. So all these people that you are interviewing, I find it fascinating that, first of all, congressmen and women are actually on board. And second of all, if they actually understand it, and it's not just, I guess it would be taking a need to their base just because the base is there, I think they realize that this might be the future. Oh, yeah. And that number continues to grow. That's the exciting part, right? We're seeing more and more, even those running for office recognize that. Just look at the political candidates, RFK Jr. Vivek. Regardless of what side of the aisle you're on, you have both Democrats and Republicans who recognize the value of this technology, and it has to stay here. Just look at Richie Torres, right? I know he's not running for office, but young Democrat absolutely gets it. He's the one who has brought the heat to Gary Genser in a couple of the congressional hearings. So it's amazing, man, the paradigm shift that is taking place from when we got in to now. And I tried to remind people, we didn't have this back in 2016, 2017. You didn't have BlackRock and Larry Fink and these guys bullish on crypto.  Are they going to ban it now? Yeah. Those fud or fears are out the door. Now it's like they're going to build with it. They're building their CBDCs and much more with it. It brings it to another point, which is I get people, I know, Tony, you're getting those same text messages I'm getting. April, is it time? Should I get into it? What should I get into? And I'm like, to me, it's so much easier these days to get into it. Right now, like everybody in the chats right now, a lot of wrenches. Thanks, everybody for showing up. I appreciate you guys. I find it fascinating. We're here right now and we pretty much front ran the largest institutions on the planet, which is great. And we're actually front running a lot of people and there's still people out there like they're kind of on the fence going, well, should I really do this? And it's just, I mean, there's so many positive things going on right before the halving. I mean, we got like 90 days. This is the right place, the right time. Now I'm not going to hear to say that Bitcoin is going to a million, like John McCarthy might have said, but I'm just saying these are the things that I think it's we're in the right place the right time, the Goldilocks zone as I call it. All right. Oh yeah, I was going to say I literally got my cousin. I won't mention his name because I want to dox him. But you know, he was texting me this week, dude, send me that stuff, how to buy Bitcoin. I had another family friend call me up and we had, we actually had a phone call on Friday. He was driving and he's like, Hey, what's your exit strategy for this market? And what are you doing? But you know what really started getting people's interest and really broke down that psychological barrier of fear. And is this legit? The ETFs. Mike, the first thing he said, I heard the FEC or the FCC and I said, Oh, you mean the SEC? Yeah, they approved that Bitcoin ETF. And that was a clear example. I know it's like anecdotal, but I noticed other people who've been saying this too, the ETFs being issued by known brands that people know the Treadfy, your Fidelity, your Black Rocks and so forth is a big, big thing. It breaks down that psychological barrier for many of the boomers and no offense. But it is what it is. And other people, yeah. Yeah. And you know what? I mean, that's, we talked about that in depth. So, okay, so we took care of the politicians and that's great that they're on board, at least the ones that actually get it and have took the time, taken the time to actually learn about it. Now let's break it down.  You've also had, oh, Chad Harris over in Texas and Bitcoin mining as well. And this one, I got to take a look at Alexandra the Costa, the Costa for the energy for solar-powered mining. I got to check that one out. So when you talk to the miners, and again, this is four months ago, I mean, you've been having these guys for like a couple of years now, what's been their overall thought process for Bitcoin? Like were they pretty much, were they kind of hesitant a couple of years ago? And now they're really bullish like just everybody or they've been pretty much stable the whole time? Yeah, great question. So definitely they're getting bullish and they see that we are still relatively early compared to other asset classes. And there's a two-fold part to these miners because one, they have the mining business, they're trying to mine with the cheapest energy and be as profitable as possible. At the end of the day, it's a business so has to make dollars and cents. But the other aspect of it is many of them have gone public and they have their stocks. So they, and look, that has been maybe a bit problematic for some of them.  But, and this is kind of confusing for some folks, like the crypto market versus the stock market and things can move a bit different at times, even though there's a macro correlation. But the miners are bullish. Many of them are looking to expand globally. They're looking to also expand their business where they can not only mine Bitcoin but help other companies set up rigs to mine.  They can set up the facility and help get the things up and running. So they're looking to diversify their business. They're looking at cheaper energy. They're looking to tie into many of the power grids and support them accordingly. So the miners are bullish. They're looking long term and many of them see the ETF news as incredible for their business because it's just going to drive demand for more Bitcoin. And look, we, the last bull market, excuse me, bear market was pretty rough on certain miners who had to file for bankruptcy. But look, that's, and some people were like, oh, you see this is blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and they spread foot. But it's like, yes, businesses start up and they fold. And if the business does not run well, of course they're going to have problems. So that has nothing to do with Bitcoin itself. That's just, are you running a profit?  Yeah, it's a good lesson because everybody thinks that we talked about this yesterday. There's a big, there's a difference between the speculation and the price discovery versus what actually is utility and can actually be utilized. And when we talked about this like a basic example, we took a look at a Luvium. Luvium is a web three game and it was almost $2,000 per token. And they had nothing. They had a little bit of a rendering. They had a white paper and hope. And now they actually have a playable game and it's down like 86%. So what are you going to do? That's just pretty much how it is in the crypto space. So Tony, that would be, so now we talked about the miners and talked about congressmen and women. Tell me about this one with Michael Sale. This was three years ago. This was when, this was, let's see, was this 2021 or 2022 when he was getting pummeled? So this was 2021. He was going all in. He made his announcement. Everybody wanted to talk to him. It was exciting times, right? And he, I can't remember. It was at the point, yeah, he launched the Bitcoin for corporations initiative. I don't know if he had already convinced Tesla to put Bitcoin in a balance sheet. I think he may have. And this was certainly exciting, right? This was new ground being broken, corporations adding Bitcoin to their balance sheet. So it was a really, really great interview.  And you know, sailor, he had a lot of success historically with micro strategy, but also his other investments. He was early to Amazon and so forth. So I was a bit nervous interviewing him, but it was all around a good interview. And I think he really, really did something incredible. I don't think, I don't know if anybody else was thinking about it, but adding Bitcoin to your balance sheet as a company, and that's paid off well for him, Tesla as well. And I'm hoping to see this cycle of other companies would do the same given that you have the ETFs, but also I forgot the rule. I don't know if you know about it, but there was a rule where it makes it easy for companies to add Bitcoin to your balance sheet. And I forgot, it got approved like last year. Yeah, me and Jerry V. Hall, I'll talk about this. And I forgot what it is. But yeah, so now, instead of on your balance sheet by claiming like the essentially when you bought it or the worst price, you can actually price it the right way. So it shows profitability as opposed to showing losses continuously, which I don't understand that the whole point. But yeah, that was supposed to be a big thing. And Michael said we talked about that and everything's great. But here's a question though, Tony, when you interviewed him, this is in 2021, he was at the like the peak, he was so super, I'm guessing pretty confident, but then you, you know, we saw him in 2022 kind of come down. Do you see that as kind of like the same thing for a lot of investors? Or do you think he just built differently? You know, one of the concerns I had for MicroStrategy and Michael Saylor was if the bear market broke them that, you know, where he, you know, obviously he took debt out to buy Bitcoin, right? It would have been detrimental for the market. That collapse would have been really bad. Can you imagine what Elizabeth Warren and all these people would have done, Jamie Dimon? It would have been horrible, but he made it through. He's up and I think he's weathered the storm here. I think he's in, in for blue skies and sunshine because we're headed to new all-time highs. Now, how he continues to manage all this Bitcoin and how they're going to pay their debt. I don't know how they're going to do that. I don't know the mechanics yet. The other aspect is people were treating the MicroStrategy stock as an ETF. They were doing base stock as well. So how does that impact maybe the little arbitrage he was doing with his company stock price? Ultimately, though, if he's able to continue and sustain the future market cycles, he could be one of the richest men in the history of the world. If we all agree where you think Bitcoin is going, and we know he's, he's saying never sell all that. Okay, Michael, profits, but you know, yeah. Thank you exactly.  And you're right. If he would have sold like how Tesla sold, Tesla had, I want to say 60,000. Now they're roughly under 10,000 right now. If they would have sold a big chunk of it, how detrimental would that have been to the market? Not just, not just for price action, but for the optics, like you talked about with with Congressmen and women, if he sold, and then, you know, we're here, it'll been like a free for all. I think we would have seen a lot more depreciation of prices, but anything if he said. All right. So interesting on those two. Now let's talk about the Titans, which I always find these guys interesting.  This was just six days ago.  How, how did, what's the sense when you talk to like a Wood, a Powell, Michael Errington as well. Wow. And Yusko, what's their, what's their, their overall consensus of like what's going on the market? Are they like, are they as super bullish as they appear to be? They're like, well, I don't know about this. Oh, they, they are definitely super bullish. And I think they've got skin in the game, of course. And they've done a lot of research, you know, Kathy and Ark, they put out a lot of literature. They got a lot of smart people working with them. Ralph, I mean, this guy, I love listening to Ralph because he looks at it from the macro. So he, he doesn't focus in on Bitcoin and crypto, but how Bitcoin and crypto fits into the macro. And I, I love, you know, listening to him and reading what he puts out. He does a lot of great analysis and research as well. Mark also has a great pulse. So they are definitely bullish and they are all in. And I think the guy who started this all, I think, and really cleared the path for the hedge funds and big time investors was Paul Tudor Jones. If you recall 2020, I was blown away when he came in and was like, yeah, you know, we're, we're adding Bitcoin to our portfolio. We feel it's the fastest horse in the race. And I think that Stan Druckenmiller, Bill Miller, all these guys started following suit.  And then what's his name? Ray Dalio also, his firm took a position. So they're all here, man. It's incredible to watch it unfold and all of them to capitulate, even some who are naysayers in the past. You know, it's, it's a good thing. Like I'm glad you're on the show because when you, when you talk about all these people together, all the politicians and all the institutions and all, of course, of course, the miners and the, and the corporations, when we got in, man, there was very little of this. And now it just seems like, and people are still questioning it like, is this real? Is this how it is? Because, and it's a funny thing because they'll say like, you know, I saw Jamie Diamond on CNBC. And I can trust that guy. And he said that it was cartels and illicit activity. And so, and Elizabeth Warren wouldn't lie to me. Because, you know, she has, she has an annual salary of $235,000 and somehow, some way she's worth over $100 million or whatever. So like, I look at this, I think myself, am I just not doing a good job of convincing people because like we have so many people for us, Tony. And yet some people are still asking the question. So what are we doing wrong here? So Rob, you know, I've thought about this exact topic in question that you're bringing up. And what I learned, you know, listening to guys like Rao Powell and so forth, it's the S curve adoption. We are the early adopters. And unfortunately, unless people are open minded, and they're willing to do the research and take the time and not look at Netflix for a few days, and just spend 10 to 20 hours to research, right? I can't even tell you how many hours I spent reading white papers and studying projects and listening to great minds speak about this, right? Even my wife is like, dude, no, I know, I think that too. But unfortunately, you know, there's a segment of population which follow the herd. And if you are here, those of you who are in the chat, and you're here when the price is going down, there's blood on the streets, and you're taking a position at that point, count yourself lucky. You don't realize how lucky you are out of billions of people. Sound cliche here, but it's true. The S curve adoption, you're here early. And for the first time in history, you don't have to be an accredited investor. You could be a partaker and kind of have equity, right? As the networks grow, you hold the tokens and you participate in the value of the growth of those networks. There's never been anything like that in history. And obviously, with the hard cap supply and many tokens like Bitcoin, it allows you to make incredible return. Now, with that said, you do have to understand the market cycles. When am I buying? When am I selling? So that's important. Yeah, exactly.   Just real quick, tell us about some of your more interesting interviews.  I don't know if you didn't say that. But like the other like, if there's any other like, like, well, that was crazy, or that was enlightening, or that was fantastic, like, what are, what are some of like the ones that really stand out your mind and why? Sure. Well, I have to mention John McAfee, right? I know I won't give the details, but it was just so wild. It was wild. I was like, shell shot after the interview, because he was just, I don't know, man, he was on something. I'll put it that way. So okay, okay, let me remind everybody. So John McAfee was, if you don't remember, it wasn't just McAfee anti virus. John McAfee was huge into crypto, huge into Bitcoin, and did some really, some shady things towards the end, but whatever. Unfortunately, it passed away.  So when you interviewed him, this was, was this after 2017 or 2018? Oh, yeah. So this was, I think late 2018 or early 2019. So definitely after the bull run peak. And, you know, but there's still a lot of excitement because people are like, whoa, what's this new thing? What's happening? Right? It was, you still had the residual euphoria effect. Even though we were headed into a bear market, but it was pretty incredible in interviewing him because, look, with all the baggage that comes with John McAfee, he's still a smart, very smart guy. The fact that he built, you know, that business, and then he is an early adopter of crypto. He recognized it. He got it. And, you know, some of the use cases and things he talked about, it was incredible. I think he was ahead of his time. And now some of those things are coming to fruition and many developers and innovators are paying attention to. So that was a wild interview. One I was really inspired by, and it was a big win for me was Michael Arrington because he's one of my heroes. I knew Michael Arrington going back to the Silicon Valley days and TechCrunch. Reason why I had an affinity to him was I was very intrigued by tech. And I interviewed him a couple of times. The one that might be there might be the most recent one. Yeah, that's the most recent one. So the one I think it was back in 2019 or 2020 that I got him on the first time. And he built obviously TechCrunch and all these great tech companies. He had a pulse on tech. And I was trying to build my own blog and do things along those lines. So I followed him for years. And then he went into crypto. So it was like, I see the path that he's going. And many of these early internet entrepreneurs. So I had like Jeremy O'Lear on. He's also a Web 1.0 guy. Was he really? Back in the day. Back in the day. And that's one of the things having interviewed these folks makes me more bullish because I have the background and see the macro and the journey they took and that they recognize. Here we go again. Next tech opportunity. That's exactly right. Because I had Yatsu from Animoca Brands. And when he was on, he told me the exact same thing when he was living in China. He was like, I was around for the very early stages of Web, you know, which is Web 1.0. And he goes, I would go around and I would, you know, I would create a website and I would go and like tell these owners like this is going to be the next big thing. Like get out of here kid.  And he's like, okay. And of course, like as time goes on, he's like, so what that happened? And he said, we went into Web 2.0 with the different apps that we submitted to Apple and Google. And he goes, those did well. And then of course, then there was a little bit of a slide down. He goes, now I see it. It's going to be Web 3. And that's why Animoca Brands is such a juggernaut in the Web 3 space. So yeah, I mean, it's just when you have that history, you don't know where you're going until you know where you've been. Yeah. Once you get there, you're like, well, this is just obvious. And it's the same thing. So I can see that. And the other guys I've interviewed, which were also great for me personally, and learning and seeing the future of this tech was the guys who were at Netscape. Netscape. Oh my God. So you know, Mark, Andreessen, Ben Howard's, right? They got A16. We know they're Mark Andreessen, one of the founders of Netscape, right? Yeah. Well, guess what? There's some other names there who are now in crypto. Mike Belchie, founder and CEO of Bitco. You had, what's the guy from Bill Barhite from ABRA, also a Netscape guy. Yeah. Yeah. See, it just keeps going over and over again. That's why when people say, it's always fun to me when people say, well, Rob, this time is different. Or this time, I'm like, no, it's not. It's all the same thing going over and over again. It's just a big cycle. And that's just, that's just how it goes. Mathematics. Okay. So enough of us pondering about the history. Tony, let's, let's give the people what they want. Let's talk about getting out or what's going to happen as we, because right now I feel like we're in a bit of a lull right now, but I still think it's, it's a bullish sentiment, even though we're in a neutral territory as far as the fear and greed index and stuff like that. But for me, and there's a link in the description of all my videos, and there's three videos I want everybody to watch. And the first one is why and when I'm selling 80% on my crypto in 2025. Now I should rename this to 2024 or 2025 because who knows. I'm looking at specific indicators. MBRVZ score, well, multiple, PyCycle tops, a bunch of different things, right? So we have that. And then I put out this tweet today, and I remind everybody that as we get to the, this blow off top, I'm going to start to treat not you guys, but all the tourists that come in. It's going to be like army boot camp. I'm going to, I'll be tough but honest, but I'm going to let them know that they're probably not going to make it. And they should probably just drop out now. No free rides. And of course, when the blow off top comes, then I actually step down from this channel and I won't come back and tell the bear market. So Tony, what's your strategy here? How are you doing things? Because you've lived through a couple of these cycles and you know how crazy it's about to get. So where are you at? Sure. So great points. And you know, every cycle I'm learning more and more. And that is to be, to make the highest ROI and to check my emotions at the door, have a plan, put it on paper and realize no one can call the bottom and no one can call the top. So you have to ladder in, whether that's laddering in on the way down and laddering out on the way up. You know, when there's blood on the streets, that's when you should be buying. That's where you got to fight through that fear. Now I'm not saying put your life savings. Obviously, we want to be responsible. We want to be risk averse, right? You're putting money that you can afford to lose as you would in investing in stocks or real estate. Ladder in, buy that blood on the streets. And so I did that in December, November to December, 2022. So very nice. The coins I bought are up right now. I actually did sell some Bitcoin at 48K because I saw it moving similar to what it did in 2019. That is the retracement move and then a pullback and then continued move up to new all-time highs. But there's about a year till we get to that, right? And for my exit strategy, I have a spreadsheet that I have, and I have all my coins mapped out the supply and how much I'm taking at each price point. And there are some coins I'm leaving long term and specifically like Bitcoin, right? I'm not selling it. I'm leaving it like for my daughter and so forth. But I have it on paper and it's so important get it on paper this way. When the emotions come in strong and when people are saying, don't sell diamond hands, no, no, no, no, no. Stick to your plan because you will be diamond hand all the way to the bear market and you'll be kicking yourself. Don't do it. Put it on paper, guys. Check your emotions. And this may sound weird, but it's kind of therapeutic and I'm not your therapist, but sometimes write out your emotions. How am I feeling today and why with the market? Because when you're dealing with a good amount of money and having gone through this, I realize, okay, what is my plan? How am I feeling today? Why? What's the market doing? And that helps me to process my emotions because they can come in strong, man, the greed, the euphoria and vice versa, the fear and the blood on the streets. So my plan, ladder up, cash out, put it on paper.  We don't know what it tops out. Last cycle, everyone is saying 100K. It stopped at 69. So don't be greedy. I definitely got to hit a million. Unfortunately, no one has a crystal ball. We can't predict the future. So you got to take the profits and run, man. Yeah, exactly right. So Tony, when you're talking about that, can you say that one that comment about the hands of diamond real quick? Just one more time as people understand that. Hands of some sort. Yeah. So if you recall, for those of who weren't here in the last cycle, there was a movement, don't sell your Bitcoin, diamond hands, diamond hands to 100K. There's a lot of people who didn't sell and the bull market came and left and they got stuck. They didn't take profits. Don't listen to other people when it comes to statements like that. If it's not backed by the charts or the technicals or the data, they're lying to you.  So this is why you have to have a plan or you will be manipulated. Oh my goodness. I do declare. I do not believe that would actually happen. So yeah, that's totally true.  Yeah, don't leave things on exchanges. Don't use leverage. All right, two or three acts. All right. You know, whatever, if you want to do something like that, take profits on the way because nobody, everyone broke taking profits. And then there was one thing that you said about judging with your emotions or dealing with your emotions. And I think it's one of those things that like, you know, as like people guys were like, yeah, deal with that. But it's true. And it's the things are going to happen, especially as you start to go, trust me, all of a sudden you're like, wow, I'm up 25x. This is a lot of money. But if it did a 25x, why couldn't do a 50x? Why couldn't do 100x? So in the description of all my videos as well, and the very, very bottom, whoops, on very, very, very, very bottom. There's recommendations. There's one recommend, there's one website I recommend above all else. It's the Daily Stoic.  So, Rob, I kid you not, I look at that YouTube channel and I have a copy of Marcus Aurelius' meditations. Yeah, exactly. And of course, here's my booklet for journaling, which I do every single day, because you can really figure out what it is that's important to you and what's not. So, exactly. Excellent stuff. Yeah, one quick note I want to mention, like folks sometimes get turned off by the volatility, but you can use that to your advantage. And it took me a while to learn this. I swing trade. I don't use leverage. And I, so for example, Bitcoin is correcting right now, but you do have to learn some of the charts and like the Fibonacci models and the wave counts, but I don't get it perfect all the time, but I've made money swing trading. So, I'll buy Bitcoin as it heads 35K, and then if it bounces back up to 45K, sell. I just made some money. You can do that. So, just something to think about. Yeah. And that's the beauty of having different channel. That's why I recommend everybody, you have to take a look at different channels for different views and perspectives, because on this channel, don't really do too much of that, but Tony does. And that's an important thing to differentiate. So, maybe that's why I put those links in the description. You can check out Tony's Tony site. So, Tony, you got like five minutes or so. We're going to go over some quick questions. Sure. Okay. Good. Ryan says, who is Tony?  I got you. So, this is Tony from Thinking Crypto. He's been around since 2016, and he does some great, not only just some great interviews, but he does have some, I mean, he's got some really good day-to-day information that you probably should check out, especially if you're in a TA in the markets and a little bit of swing trading. Sounds good. Fox Savage Gaming says, Tony, how did you go as an amazing guest? That is a great question. How did you get like the Senator and the Republicans and the Congressmen and women and Arrington and all those things? Sure. Great question. So, certainly being persistent, a lot of hard work. I use any outlet, Twitter, X, email, networking, hitting up people on LinkedIn, but also making sure I maintain a professional level on my podcast and YouTube channel, no overhype because people don't want to be associated with stuff like that, right? Now, oh, here's the next 500X. Like, I don't do stuff like that. Hey, you know what?  That's it. That's the recipe for success. All right. Aerosol, it plays out a good question. Tony, besides Rob, who was your best interview that you would recommend? That's a good question. Hmm. Let's say top three, because top one's pretty difficult because there's different pieces of innovation you can get. But top three, you're like, watch this, this, this. I have to say Ralph Powell, just because the way he thinks from a macro standpoint and understanding economics, tech, and crypto is incredible. Yeah. Getting Kathy Wood was a big one for me recently, and Michael Angin, just because he's one of my heroes, honestly. Yeah. That's a good one. So you got Powell, Wood, and Arrington. I want to check out the Arrington one. He looks like a jovial guy. He's a very nice person. I met him in person, but he can come off very rough, though. He's very straight to the point. I appreciate people like that these days, trust me. For sure. Darren says, hey, guys, this is a good question. Do you put money aside now for buying projects that aren't even out yet? Which is a great point, because we've been going over this Goldilocks theory, which in the last cycle, let me just pull it up, in the last cycle when we had, right around the halving, there was a lot of different projects that came out that were pretty darn good. And we could see that there was like, okay, besides Luna, sorry about that one. Matic 2019, Axie 2020, Solana April 2020, Avax, September 2020, San, Shiba, and Gala. And they all came around the halving, which is right in this dead center line. So again, Darren has asked this question, is do you put money aside for projects like that? Not D-Gen products, but those that appear to have longer potential, maybe projects similar to Poly or Sol last cycle. Oh, absolutely.  Oh, yeah, exactly. That came out of nowhere. I mean, Mark Cuban recommended, and all of a sudden, boom. Yeah. And I had interviewed the founder, I think it was. I can't remember the exact title. And I'm just like, oh, I missed that one. But to answer the question, yes. And obviously, you want to do your homework, do as much research as possible. Who are these people? Can you find them on LinkedIn? Do they have a digital trail on the web? Right?  So I'm definitely looking at things like that. I get recommendations from different people, and I make sure I go through my due diligence. That's pretty good. Yeah. And you know, and everybody, Tony said it, do diligence and do your own research. But even if you do your own research, as much as you possibly can, it's investing, it's risky, and you're going to screw up at some point. And they're not all going to be winners. And that's just how it goes. So just be aware, these things are going to happen. And then let's see. Last one before I want to make you late, Tony. Let's see this one. It's a statement. I want to see what you think about this one. Because remember when we got in, Bitcoin was transactions. Then it became a store of value. Then it became an inflation hedge. But Yankee Lander says, with the number of interest and quantity of Bitcoin ownership, Bitcoin has begun to get the stronger traction of view that is truly a store of value better than any asset. How do you feel about that? I would say, I wouldn't say better than any asset yet. But I think it's on the path to that. It's growing up. It's maturing, right? It's maybe coming out of its teenage years, if one could argue. And the ETFs are helping it to go into adulthood a bit. And I think once central banks start putting in on their balance sheet, there is more El Salvador's, I think this statement could absolutely be true. I think it's going to be a better store of value eventually than gold. Gold will be second. And I think the hard-cap supply is really incredible. And the block chain, because of the blockchain, and you have the on-ramp from all over the world for anybody to participate in the network is incredible. Yeah. And it's a good point about that whole piece of $21 million. It's not scarce. It's finite. And people will say, well, what if they change it? What if they fork it? And I'm like, even if they fork it, that whole aspect of the $21 million. They did it already. Yeah, they did it. So they did it on Bitcoin Cash, they did it on Bitcoin SV, and they did it on Bitcoin Gold, which no one remembers that. But out of all those three, you know what they didn't change? The max supply. So in that situation, just remember that even if they change and do a hard fork, go right ahead. But it doesn't really work out as far as the long run. And yeah, Tony, thanks so much, man, for stopping by. We appreciate it. Everybody, if you are looking for Tony, you can find him on two different places. Of course, you got it on X and YouTube. And I'm sure there's some other socials, but those are the ones that I use. And I'm, oh, Tony's got a link tree. Hold on. See here. Yeah, you can pretty much get me on everywhere. Okay, okay. Perfect. Instagram, TikTok, Threads, podcast, and a free newsletter. Man, people love free. Perfect. Rob, thank you for having me, man. Great to be here. And we'll have to do it again. I got to get you on my show as well. So we'll write that. Sure, let's do it. All right, everybody. So that's it for today. Thanks so much. Enjoy the Sunday. Get out of here. Stop looking at charts and stuff like that. But Tony, I appreciate it. And guys, we'll see you on the next one.


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Hi, welcome to CTN Member Highlights. I'm Leslie McVane, and my guest today is Amy Peche. Peche. Pechette. Pechette. From LearningWorks. Hi, Amy. Hi. Now you're the director of the after school programs at LearningWorks. And how many schools do you have after school programs in? For LearningWorks, we have 11 altogether in four different districts. So we have six schools in Portland, two in Bitterford, two in South Portland, and one in Waterboro. Wow, that's a little more than I realized. And I'm on the board at LearningWorks, so I should know that. But we're here to talk about something special that's happening coming up on the 20th. And that's Lights On After School. Do you want to tell us a little bit about what that is? Sure. Lights On After School is a day, a national day, to highlight after school programs and the importance and the need and what they do for our communities. So October 20th, it's called Lights On After School Rally in downtown at the City Hall to share with our community what after school programs look like here in Portland and what they do for kids. So it's from 3 o'clock to 5 o'clock? 3.30 is when people can start coming until about 5. And at 4.15 we'll have a presentation. So it's going to be open to anyone in the community who wants to learn more about the after school program. And will some of the kids from the after school program be doing presentations? Yes. So everybody, LearningWorks after school, a company of girls, the Telling Room, Portland Rec, the Boys and Girls Club, and probably some others I'm forgetting, will all be gathered. Some of them will bring students, and they'll have tables and kind of share with what they're doing. And then during the presentation, there'll be some student performances. So there's going to be a student from the Telling Room who's going to share his part of his novel that he wrote last year, which is incredible. We're going to have some little dancers. So Mayo Street Arts and Portland Youth Dance will be there to share a hip hop dance that they're learning. We'll have a student or a group of students from Raikey, the LearningWorks after school program at Raikey, share their newly learned yoga moves. And then we'll have a group of girls to speak from a company of girls about what after school and what that program means to them. Well, it's such an enriching program to have for these kids. And I was reading some of the statistics here, and it's 15.1 million children go home to an empty home where there's nobody there, across the nation. That's mind boggling. And this, across the nation, they're doing these after school programs to give children a chance to thrive and not be alone. Some of those little kids must be scared to go home alone. Talk a little bit about what you know about that and how the program has made a difference in some of the children you've worked with. Right, so alternatives to not having an after school program or probably going home alone or to a house with an adult, but there might not be a lot happening at home. There might be the TV on or video games. And so our after school programs and the other learning works after school and other programs, we are providing a safe place, but also a place where students can thrive and learn about new things and practice new skills and try to spark some interest in something they may not have the opportunity to do. And the school doesn't have a chance to offer that during the day. There are so many things they have to get through on their schedule and so to offer some enrichment that otherwise might not have is wonderful. Before we go to, I wanna talk about something really special, you were recognized nationally. Could you tell us a little bit about that for this program? I just think it's wonderful. Sure, so I am an after school ambassador this year and an after school ambassador is, I'm one of 15 people across the country who is tasked to spread the word about after school and what it does for the community and families and to promote more opportunities to get funding for after school either locally or in the state government or the national government too. So I'll be talking to all of our senators and legislators and just getting the word out and sharing all of the good things that we do. I think it's wonderful and it's so important. Thank you so much for all that you do and we're very proud of you by being one of 15 across the country and coming from here gives me chills and thank you. Thanks.


What's going on guys and welcome to a new video. So a couple of months ago I did a video of showing you how to identify the problem if you're getting hundreds, if not thousands of people onto your Shopify store but not converting them. I showed you how to identify where that process is breaking down and for the majority of the people it was on their Shopify store. So in this video I'm going to show you how to fix that problem. If you ask someone who has been running ads to your Shopify store but you are not converting those people into customers then this is the video for you. So before we jump into the seven different points that I want to take you through I want to pre-note this by saying that think of your Shopify store as like a first impression. When somebody lands on that product page of yours within the first few seconds they are going to decide in their mind whether they like your business or not. Think of it as like when you buy a new car when you go to the showroom and the salesman comes over to introduce himself if he's a bit scruffy and rude and doesn't give off a very good impression with you then you're probably not going to buy a car from him and your website is exactly the same. Not only that your website or the car salesman has a job to answer all of your questions and if he can't answer all of the questions about the car or your Shopify store can't answer all of the questions about the product ultimately it's going to lead to that person leaving without making a purchase. So in this video I'm going to show you seven different things, seven different questions that you must answer and if you do it's going to increase your conversion rate. Number one just to get the biggest and most obvious one out of the way please don't leave the video there will be some more valuable points coming up but again this is sometimes the hurdle that I see some Shopify stores fall at. So number one is price and variant. Have you got the correct spellings of your variants? For example the most common mistake I see is the spelling of color. Are you using the American spelling for an American audience? Are you using a UK spelling for a UK audience? Number two is your price too expensive or is it even too cheap? If you're selling a really awesome high quality product and you're selling it for a super cheap price it's going to devalue your brand. The customer's going to think something is fishy, something don't quite smell right and leave your Shopify store to buy it elsewhere. Sometimes even at a higher price consumers can be buying exactly the same product but want to pay that little bit extra because they think they'll be getting a better quality one when in reality it's just the same ones. Number three variant specific imagery. This is usually a built in feature for most decent themes but the amount of stores I review that when you click on the blue it still shows a picture of the red. When you click on the green it still shows a picture of the red or if you're buying a camera that comes with one battery it shows an image of a camera with a tripod and four batteries. Your variants must match the images so your customers can see exactly what it is they're buying. If there's any confusion over this whatsoever they were not going to make a purchase. Number four are you running a discount? This is a 100% non-deniable fact people buy more or more likely to buy if there's a current discount. And last but certainly not least have you got too many variants? Stick to less than six. If on your product page you have 25 different variants that the customer has to choose from it's gonna be messy and it's gonna be overwhelming. Check out this graph of the paradox of choice. Customers want choice just not too much so there comes a point where by offering more choice customers become less happy and therefore less likely to buy your product. Number two is imagery. If any of your images on your Shopify store look like these two here then you need to have a massive rethink. Do not use supplier images as much as possible. Sometimes it is unavoidable but in any case possible try avoid using them. If you're left with no choice and you have to use them make sure you remove the background add your logo in one of the corners just like a watermark. Better yet still order some samples take your own photos even on an iPhone you can take some pretty incredible high detail photos with the right lighting. There's unlimited tutorials on YouTube on how to do this. So by having your own custom and original photos has two main benefits. Number one platforms like Facebook reward original content. They don't want to be sending their users to the same type of Shopify stores every single time. If you're using the same supplier images as the next person selling the product not only will your customer find it difficult to differentiate you from the next person but Facebook will see your site as a very similar to one that the customer previously visited and didn't make a purchase on and therefore it's not really going to want to send users to your site either. Again Google this. Go to the Facebook ads help center this is a fact Facebook like original content. Number three is delivery information. So ask yourself a question now when was the last time you ordered something without knowing when it will arrive or were you happy to pay for delivery. The chances are you've never ordered something without knowing when it's going to arrive and free delivery is always better than having to pay for delivery. So these are two things that you must get right on your Shopify store. If you are having to hide your delivery information you are doing something wrong. Never ever ever try and mislead the customer this is going to lead to big headaches later down the line. Build a legitimate business that you can sustain. Find better suppliers that can get your products to your customers faster. Same thing goes for returns and refund information. If I'm buying from a store, a website I've never come across before I want to know about this sort of thing but make it blatantly obvious what this is. Again, if you're trying to hide this from your customers then you are doing something wrong. You are misleading them which is going to lead to unhappy customers which is going to lead to getting banned on your advertising platforms. Number five is contact information. Customers want to know you are a real business and not a scam store. You have interrupted someone's day. If you are running social media ads you have interrupted someone's day. And the chances are you won't be the first person to have done so either. And the chances on top of that they will have been scammed or ordered something from a Facebook ad before for it to never arrive.  Provide a telephone number, an email address, a physical address, what your premises address is put opening hours on there so it looks like you have a real office. And if you have a company number put one on there as well. The other advantage to this as well is by having contact information it helps with SEO. On the right here is a screenshot taken from Twinkling Tree. They actually go above and beyond when it comes to contact and they have a Zendesk Help Center. Number six is tracking information. Scam stores aren't likely to have tracking pages because they're not fulfilling their orders.  It's super easy, there's free options, there's absolutely no reason why you can't have it on your own store. On the right hand side is a screenshot taken from that very same Twinkling Tree website. They are a proven seven figure drop shipper and this is what their track your order page looks like. Number seven then just to finish the video off this is something that everybody should be doing for their own products and this is product specific. So take five minutes to write down every single objection slash question a consumer would have about your products.  If you leave just one of those questions and answered then that will harm your conversion rate.  So for example, for a product like this it's a garden light. I'll talk a couple of minutes to go through the questions and things like that that people would be thinking about this product. So number one is how long does it take to charge? People need to know that if it takes seven days to charge people aren't gonna buy the products you need that information on there. Number two, how does it stand up? Does it have a pointy end that needs to go into grass? It needs to go into soil or does it come with a stand so I can put it on a patio? I want to know where I can put this product once I've bought it. Number three, is it waterproof? It's gonna go outside in my garden so I need to know if it's waterproof or not. It sounds blaringly obvious why would anyone make a garden light that isn't waterproof but it's information that if you do not have it on there leaves an unanswered question. Number four, how long does it last? Are you willing to put a guarantee to that? I wanna know that if I'm buying a product that's gonna go outside and endure the UK weather I wanna know if it's gonna last one winter or two winters or three winters so on and so forth. Once it's fully charged up is it gonna light up my garden all night? Is it gonna be 10 minutes? Is it gonna be an hour? Make sure you have all of the information on there. Next is what materials is it made out of? If I'm very environmentally friendly I might not want a plastic light in my garden if it's made out of metal to help with that kind of rustic appearance and style. Again, that will also contribute to how weatherproof it is or how long it's gonna last for and also contributes towards the price. A metal product takes more craftsmanship and therefore is a more higher quality and expensive product. Next, how is it powered? Is this plugged into the mains? Is it purely solar powered? Is it battery powered? Is it rechargeable batteries? How big is it? Is this thing this big or is it this big? I wanna know because when I put it in my garden I wanna know whether it will fit or whether it's actually large enough to stand out and create the effect that I'm looking for. And lastly, what sort of light functions does this product have? Is there a switch that goes between a solid light and a flickering light or is it just solid or is it just flickering? These are all the sorts of questions that a consumer subconsciously is gonna have about our product and like I said if you leave just one of these unanswered then you greatly increase the risk of them leaving your site never to come back and never to make that purchase. And with that being said guys, that is the video. They're the points I wanted to go through of you. Make sure you go through every single one of these points and plug them into your store. Make sure you answer every single one of these questions for your products and trust me, it will make a difference to your success. Any comments, questions, video suggestions, anything at all I can help you with. I read every single comment on my YouTube videos so just post it down below and I will get back to you. Thanks again for watching guys and I'll see you in the next video on Friday.