Thanks Kevin. So I'm going to be talking about student evaluations of teaching. I have to give credit to my advisor Philip who isn't here today. He's at NYU's Data Science Equivalent and Anne Boring who's at Sciences Po in Paris. This was a really fun paper to write. She just visited us for two weeks and we sat down and tried to write a paper. So the question we asked are student evaluations of teaching a valid measure of teaching effectiveness.  Usually they fill out a form at the end of the semester and then what happens is these numbers get boiled down to averages and they're used to compare instructors across courses and to make decisions about hiring and promotion and even firing instructors. So it seems like they ought to be a valid measure of teaching effectiveness if we're going to use them. So we concluded that they're not. We took two existing data sets and we did a reanalysis of them. The first was Anne's data from her university in Paris and the second was a randomized experiment that was done here in the U.S. So Anne's data was a census of teaching evaluations over five years. It was all the first year undergrads at her university and when students signed up for classes they didn't know which instructors they were going to get. So it was sort of a natural experiment. We found some interesting stuff in the data. So first we found that male students were significantly giving their male instructors significantly higher ratings than their female instructors. This wasn't the case with the female students though and we had midterm grades and final grades. That's what this plot here is showing the correlation between the midterm grades and the ratings and the final grades and ratings. So students didn't know their final grades before they did the evaluations and there's basically zero correlation between the final exams and the ratings. The U.S. data was actually a randomized experiment. It was an online course with four instruction sections and two TAs. One male, one female and in one of their sections the TA swapped identities with the other instructor. So the students didn't know the true gender of their instructor and we compared the ratings of the female identified against the male identified instructors and across the board the ratings were significantly higher for the male identified instructor even on things that ought to be objective like how promptly assignments were returned. So this is pretty bad. We conclude that SET measure customer satisfaction rather than teaching effectiveness. Their bias against female instructors and the biases are inconsistent across different domains across the different universities and we don't think there's like a good systematic way to adjust evaluations to correct for the bias. And I want to point out how I think this project relates to my work here at BIDS as a data scientist. I think a lot of what is important about data science is reproducibility, making things transparent, open and doing good software design. So we thought really hard about how to do the statistical test properly so that we'd get valid P values. And we put our tests in a Python package called permute that you can download. All our analyses are in Jupyter notebooks and they're in a GitHub repository. So you can go run the analysis if you're curious. And we published this paper in science open research. They're open access and they have post publication peer review. And so anyone can download it, anybody can read it and have a look for yourselves. Thanks.


U.S. probation office, may I help you? Hello? Look, I can't come in today at 2 o'clock, we're just gonna have to reschedule. Excuse me, who did you say I was calling?  Now, hold on, please. I'm sorry, I don't know who you are, you didn't give me your name. Coming in at 2 o'clock? There are a lot of appointments today. Who are you supposed to see at 2 o'clock?  John Miller is who I'm supposed to see? Mick always sees John Miller. I've been in there enough times for you to know that. Excuse me? Now listen, I can't come in today at 2 o'clock. I'm trying to set up this job thing. Let me talk to John. Mr. Miller is out of the office. Why don't I let you talk to a duty officer or the duty supervisor?  Hey, now don't make me have to come down there. I'm tired of you all trying to mess me up. Mick, you know what?  Geez, the whole system is stacked up. Hi, Sherry. Oh, hi. Carolyn Jansen will be with you shortly.  She just ran out to the cafeteria, but she shouldn't be much longer. Well, that's okay. I got plenty of time. So how do you like working here? Oh, it's fine. It gets a little crazy working in this office. Well, every job has its little crazy moments, but these days it's just good to be working. I know what you mean. But this job doesn't pay enough, so I still have to work part-time at JC Penney. But how are things going for you? Do you like your job? Oh, I love it. Working in a garage is great. And it's pretty steady, too. I mean, all cars break down sooner or later, right? Don't. I know it. I just got this Jeep, and they're supposed to be so great, right? It's in the shop all the time. Bring it on down to my shop. I'll fix it up for you. Sure. So you've been working here pretty long time now, haven't you? You know, sometimes it kind of feels like everybody has been coming here forever, including me. Oh, come on. It's not that bad. You haven't been coming here that long, because I've been here, I think, just about a year now, myself, and you came in after me. Hello, Sherry Jones? Yeah, I'll send him right back. Okay, Bob. You can go on deck. Well, here's my card. I'll look for you down at the shop. Hi, Bill. Sorry to keep you waiting. It's been one of those days. That's okay. Donna here kept me entertained. Carolyn, I need to talk to you about... Not right now, Donna. Let me get him out of here and I'll give you a buzz.


Yeah, yeah, this is gilly the king. Yeah, man.  This is million dollars worth of game Million dollars worth of game.  First of all everything diva glam Com had you had any good here lately?  You got a convertible.  You know, that's your new name drop top gill. I'm a circular play there. What do you got a drop top? No, he's his hair is a drop top. You need to land a strip right there I'm gonna tell baby. Hey, you gotta give him a land of strip, baby Give him a lamestrip. But once again man, I sponsored everything diva glam. You know me calm We also want to shout out another one our sponsors 81 trucking company, man Trucking service man. 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Was it the men or is it the women or and I found out some disturbing things Oh, tell tell her people tell her people what you found out. I got a chart here, right? Okay, and it says that Today's millennial generation of women are cheating on their Husbands slash boyfriends at an alarming rate alarming rate and This is unbelievable like if you look at this chart look at the blue that's that's unbelievable Yeah me That's unbelievable isn't it they get busy. Hey, oh you're getting busy too So to all the furloughs who because a lot of y'all be thinking you'll y'all y'all y'all got the one They said the younger woman in relationships is cheating more frequently right y'all be thinking y'all got the one all these young fellas out Here you be thinking you got the one. I got it and the whole time. She's a pocket Hey, you hear me, but let me tell you something about women They do it better than us. We think we think we so smart. We think I've figured out.   I'm talking about people have this Sterminated the whole everything moving in the crib.  Oh, kill That was a thing man listen listen and to be all-way honest man Regina is the is the most dangerous drug on planet earth No on some real stuff.  Well, you know who control the street games I said that thing That thing control the street games cuz you do to be like damn, you know You growing up as a kid in the ghetto a lot of people like why is this happening? Why these little boy?   They did take the pace of all is they control all is we be sitting here thing Oh, yeah, I just checked. I totally know you think you checked it You checked it right in the re listen all you did was check her right in the Rahim hand soon as you leave out the crib What I'm time.  Keep your eye.  I hate him. Don't even mention it. Don't mention that man.  Don't even mention Ricky.   That was the worst I can't beat you up and he was a pretty boy.    Tell me you're not gonna juice Ricky Why Ricky?  Hey, I'm a keeper all the way real though Back in the day with Ricky Sly with Ricky Slyce and Dyson.  You hit me You was I'm sorry thinking about it cuz it's like it's no fine. You could have broke a brick and trout the fish It was like it's no revenge. Hey, listen nigga. I care.  You might start talking about Ricky Ricky catch y'all.  I'm running the Ricky might be in trouble But see only reason might be a truck is he he probably still operating that pistol.   Let's get it. What come on.  That is nutty ain't I'll be a nut to do that. I ain't gonna do that.  She was everything. She was everything. She was everything to me This is a woman. She says My man got locked up for seven years on his third gun charge. Oh, man He's been down for two already and I've been holding him down.  I have been faithful this whole two years But I don't know we've been together for forever and I've held them down on his first two and a half year bid I don't know what to do. I'm 24 help me. Well, let me just tell you something baby. Oh my god, right? I don't you want to be the bearer of bad?  All right. This is a nigga second bid Niggas going down. He didn't know you already did two with him in his first bid now You're doing this to with it. You didn't get two out of this bid with him.     This is our five years. Yeah six months. What are you talking about fire? I'm not putting on a I'm just saying I'm I'm giving to the fire Goddamn slut lay it out and spray it out. I'm gonna say this Let me speak on this department now We got to take it from as you I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you the true raw stuff We're gonna take this to stories from a cell. No, no, no, hold on, but let me finish giving him some more game though No, no, no, you're not qualified this but it's my department, buddy Oh, this is the story from a cell.   Don't do that. You're running around here. You're killing me. Hold up.  No, we kill it. Definitely.  Oh, I did not tell you what I say.  You couldn't get to bro. I was like this I was like this. I'm gonna tell you what I said In this segment, this is called tears on the phone as I was crying Listen if you happen and this is what I said I said if you haven't the drop out of block if you just hope it's just so happy you drive it down that street Let me know the temperature. Let me know what's going on. I need to know I would do it for you But I was like, I'll never try that block So happy down there you happen to drop through the block. Please let me know That's how I was I was going crazy, but the whole thing is this is the whole thing stories from a cell This is a deep story So she the mile, right? I never listen. This this is just crazy. We ain't greatest for a prison, right? So we kicking he got a shorty that was moving out for it moving out spectacular But news flash to everybody on the streets.  Nobody's gonna tell you this, but I'm gonna be wrong. She's no longer. You're she's ours She belong to it's not sink. She belong to you.  No, no, they'd be like fat Mike kev Boo-boo stuff like that.  Come on.  Yeah Shoot him up out there. Put shoot him up on the phone. Yeah. What's up, bro? Oh, man? I'm always what you doing? I'm always shooting them up. Oh, man.  So what you doing?  I'm shooting him up. Yeah, I'm sliding on anything I'm sliding man. You know, I'm always sliding. I ain't playing out here. I'll right be up there with you in a minute, bro Yeah, I got about 20 years and I probably do 30. I'm a ride.   Oh, he's shooting up.  What's his name?   Kareem brother, you know Kareem the mill man.  And what's him? No, he got a ribbon. He got a new Benz. He got a Benz. Oh My god I'm done. Yeah. No, I mean, I didn't go to the show and it ain't about none I ain't worried about these man ain't about none. I'm gonna get out there.  Listen, I don't care about her. I don't even care Yeah, pass the phone back. It was yeah, man, but last time, you know, it's crazy. My man Mike shot up, too Shoot a muffin tell him about anything. Hey, buddy shooting up. Hey, my man Don't be at the end of the day though.  That's the reality of this Let me tell you this story. So my homie. He doing this thing got a shorty moving out for him She coming up to see me. We we down greatest full penitentiary, you know, that's like 40 minutes outside of Philadelphia He had about a he had about a like Five to ten something like that in he only had like three years and so he's ready to slide Somehow he got hooked up with his chick There was usually get hooked up with a girl from your sister cousin. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah your homie girl Your homie girl that got a saline somebody hook him up I don't know how he got hooked up, but he got hooked up and this girl was moving and grooving She was up there a week being the first, you know, I mean you want your girl to be first when you when you doing a bit You want to get out of them steps You'll get out of steps first give me the tune a whole yeah there get all my stuff because it's like a Joint in the joint, you know dudes being a joint like yeah, she always here first like yeah every week I was that boy out there. I'm that guy. You know me. I got money So however that go right so See moving out right So one day boy come down from another jail He could get transferred for me because everybody trying to get if you were living in Pennsylvania You know what I'm talking about but in Pennsylvania greatest for a prison was right close to Philadelphia And it close to the prison years the better the visits get so bang So this boy got transferred from down the mountains. He slide in the cell winning right like yeah I just got to sell you from such a something like that's what's up, man. That's cool, man It's done the third boom boom boom boom so they that's the selling now. They're kicking it So they get it talking in the cell one day Excuse me. He showed you show the do like yeah, my shorty be right now. Just a third like damn Let me check out he showed of the shorty she moving to she moving to groove in the boys Yeah, the boy just looking at the pictures real good. I'm like, I ain't paying me no attention I'm watching TV making me a cheat sheet.  I'm at the move man It's cool. I ain't no problems. You I just got a move.  So the whole time the baby mom She going to that jail in that jail, but she playing a part So me for both of her, right?  She don't know that he down there yet You know I'm saying this like the first two to like the first night do was in the cell so it was like now was like He's sick. So my man to me.  What's up? You think I gotta watch this boy down get a piece or something I'll get some equipment. You know equipment is that that's that's that's that whack. Yeah, you gotta have your equipment on you This is what I'm saying. He like you think I said man. I don't I don't know how deep it is, man But I'm like damn. I see you showed him. He said man.  No, I don't think he has some I don't think he showed him that but like the visiting pictures like regular pictures He's taken out there for him But she was moving the groove for this boy, but she was going to see boy A baby father boy, she wasn't going to seem like that. Right. She was going to see him So he was just like destroyed like damn. They only had one kid. He like damn. This is a dude. She's her whole thing is like So when he came down, he had to he had to come off of one of the lists So she told her baby father that you got to take me off that list like this my man now. This is how I'm rocking And he here just imagine here one things for sure two things one things for sure two things Certainly that nigga vernacular was spectacular because he booked her from his prison Yeah, he booked her. Yeah, what? Man, listen, man, that's where it all go down at man Let's I used to write letters for dudes in jail a lot of dudes Because they got money a lot of dudes you think do got money dudes a lot of dudes can't read or write I used to like write a lot of letters for dudes in jail a lot of times, you know, I mean just I was I was getting them in there. All right, you know, I mean starter letters It might be a starter. Let's say you might just meet a somebody just put you up with a girl Niggas was in there like But neither No, no, no, no dudes. I love you.     No, it ain't just that it ain't just that it ain't just learn how to read Listen, listen, it's not just listen. It's not just learn for you be of the old common say Can I get some doodles and doodles can get some doodles and doodles It's a bit it's a little little debras Abyss I get some little abyss Little jibbies, but whatever stopped that. Well, listen, I'm gonna say this though The reality is this though when you out here you operating outside of the law and you in the gang There's two ways you can look at it because you saying to yourself every time I make a move I'm buying her stuff I'm paying for these bills if you're doing that it's only small percentage of dudes that do that Because a lot of dudes out here chasing drip and then you got a lot of people that's out here They just they're not even getting no money. They just put in the work to just be putting the work to say They're part of the street operation and part of the street gang And well, they call what we call them because they you know, they just storm rocks at the penitentiary door trying to try to get in And they decorate their environment. That's what they're doing. They just waiting for them to say this though For the gates of the penitentiary of the gates of heaven I would say this Don't get the don't get the jail and want to be a relationship specialist and focus on you You know because this the job I just seen a lot of dudes do this because I used to trip because anybody do it.  I ain't no, you know, you was right.    I'm just saying baby.   You run around here on these streets, right?   That's too late. They go on the streets.   Yes He's getting off. She's getting a whole pack.  Oh my god. You hear that? Oh my god. He's coming. He's coming. Who is that? Who is that? It's baby leg It's baby leg Yeah, that's baby leg Who that is? That's baby leg I think that's baby leg Who that is?   Listen. I don't even think bro big bro. I don't think you want to know he to who she messing with No, you know, I you know do be like scared like it's a killer something like I don't think you want to know Who is it? You're messing bro. She's messing with BL.  I think I'm a baby leg out of my family. Hey, what's the song that's gonna play to see and the holly gonna say Who that is? That's baby leg He got a baby leg Who that is?  He said like selly. What's up? What's wrong? Somebody got killed. What happened? He was gonna look up and he gonna look at his cell. He's selling him like Say it ain't so don't tell me selly It was baby leg. He got you too Baby leg got you.  He gotta die Somebody gotta kill it. This you gotta stop This baby leg gotta be stopped.   Stay out here.  I was in the house But I didn't know what happened. He said you just fell out on the phone. We don't know We don't know if you had a heat stroke or heart attack. I woke up.  I was listening. I was listening at the end of the day is like You know how it made me feel you was on the phone with me, man No, but I couldn't see your face.   He got a Kelly I'm telling you He's he better. I'm telling my mom. He better have around my daughter She better have and my cell he was like I thought you ain't had no kids.  Will you ask you to block up? Kill what?  This is a sucker I need your rod through there for me.  He get anybody bro?  You know that, it's niggas. What's next on the agenda, man? Listen, man, we're going to tap into something that's very important in our communities, right? And the community and the hood, right? When somebody come up, you know the first thing that we say, as soon as we start getting money, we start doing good for each other, good for ourselves. The first thing we say, I don't want nobody, nothing.    Newsflags, I got a message to all rappers. I got a message to athletes. I got a message to stars. Anybody that was pumped and supported and pushed up from the environment, from the hood. Because when you first start, you have an idea, you want to do something. And the hood supports you. What the hood do, let me tell everybody, the roots hold up the tree. So the bottom dictate the top.  And what it do is it just give you more steps.  So soon as dudes say, I don't want to listen. We got to start spending our influence. Let's talk about spend your influence. And the people that's in position now, they got the bread. We're not talking about spending your money. We talking about utilize the connections that you have with different brands, with different people in position. So you could do things for your community. Okay, give them a, give them an example. An example. Okay. Like, like for a prime example, what he's saying is me and Walu is very influential in the community. So what we do is we hook up with people like Dennis Otto. And we say, okay, listen, y'all want to be a big staple in the community. We already a big staple in the community. Let's find a family that's in need. And let's give a card to them. You feel what I'm saying? Let's give back. Let's, and it didn't cost us any money. No. And in order to receive, you know, you got to get back in order to receive forward. And at the end of the day, I'm talking like this, some of these athletes and all that stuff, you got deals with sneakers company. You got deals with what's the name you got deals with such and such. And it ain't, listen, it ain't never too little. It ain't never too, it ain't, it ain't, it ain't never too little. So whereas though you could get into tapping the things or whereas you could really get to your community. But I mean, so it's like, it could be small, it ain't got to be big, but it could be something where you could, though, you could just be donating your time to a rec center. Or you could be having these kids get some, or you create institutions. When I say we got to start creating institutions and I'm not talking about physical institutions. I'm talking about sometimes mental institutions for the mind. I ain't talking about for Craig. I'm talking about the institution of a way to do things, a way to establish things that we can start establishing for us. You know what I'm saying? For the kids and all that stuff because it's like, we just get that money. We go crazy. I don't care how you spend your money. I'm not never telling you to spend your money or none of that. I'm talking about connect with the brands and everybody to support you because we're living in a time where everybody is so ultra hype over rappers and celebrity. Oh, I want to be, I want to be next to that. And I'm talking about these big corporations and brands, everybody, people with money. They just want to stand close to a rapper and say, come here, you're a rapper. I know this rapper. I'm cool.  I'm next to a rapper. I'm cool now. Wow. I'm cute. So start utilizing these people that want to stand next to rappers. You want to stand next to, you want to stand next to athletes and want to act like they cool because they wasn't cool. They whole life and they got bread. Listen, start utilizing these type of people and these resources to start and spin your influence in our community and give back to the community. Once again, you don't have to take nothing out of your bank account. You don't have to stop buying your change. You don't have to do stop buying your cars and none of that. None of that. Give back. Not to be a prime example. You know, Meek Mills leveraged his, you know, his connection with Puma, $100,000 worth of stuff for the kids in the community. Last Christmas, that was great. So what I'm saying is, this is simple things. Simple things. I knew about this way before it happened. We talked about that. But so it's like, how hard is that? Right. How hard is that to you? You know what I mean? Do that. Absolutely. You don't have to do something big as that and it got to be $100,000 worth of stuff for the community. It could be something. It could be something. And you could go back to your community. If everybody that made something happen from athletes to people that's not just athletes and rappers, people that's big in business. When you could go back to your community, shout out to big business. He do things for this community, for the kids and all. When you could go back to the community, your community and put something, just your personal community. Because all our community has got somebody that made it happen, rather than business, rather than sports, rather than music. And we start doing that. We'd be in a better position. Absolutely. And rest in peace to Nipsey Hussle because that's what he did. That's what he did, man. You know what I mean? Everybody throwing Nipsey up, make sure that you're taking that whole mind open out of your mind. You ain't got to help it.  Right. You know what I'm saying? But all of us could help in some tight way. And we'd be better off as people. We'd be in a better situation. But if you can, whenever you can, spend your influence. Spend that. Please connect with us. But at the end of the day, I want to know who would you be? We had this segment. Who would you be segment? That's what we had that segment of the show, yeah. Explain to who would you be segment. Who would you be is, if you die and could come back as these certain people.  He usually like to come up with people because I don't really have, you know, there's a lot of people. Okay, so I got to come up with somebody. Well, who would you beat it? Okay. So if you could come back as... Let me preach myself. Because last time he got real spicy. Gil. Gil J. Gil. If you could come back as Michael Jackson, Prince of James Brown, which one would you be? Woo! That's hard, man. I'd love to be all three of them. That's hard, man. Them dudes was legends. All of them. All of them was iconic legends. Okay, so let me ask you a question. And he had that wet Jerry Kerr hair. You know, I love the... The curl was everything. Yeah, you love the drip. The curl. The drip. The curl. You can't do drip. The curl. Like, don't do this one. I was little. And I just see dudes jump out of their cars. They BMWs, whatever. You know what I mean? With the Jerry Kerr. With the jet. With that thing hitting the Jerry. You wanted a prom. You wanted a prom time. D-O-P-B-A. No, no, I had one.  When that joint hit the drip, hit the chains. No, let's listen. Because listen. To activate the juice, you used to activate the shine of the chains and the Jerry. When the boys jump out and they looking like, Mr. T.  I'd be like, yeah. I can't wait till I get older. Who I want my drip to be.  Oh, I believe it. Driggity drip.  Easy drip. Easy. He had a wild drip.  No, I see. Because you know when you got a real, live Jerry Kerr? Like, when you hold your whole collar. But you were young.   I had an Afro Jerry Kerr. It can't really curl up like the way I want. But I would just be fascinated when a dude jump out of his car. He got all them chains on. And the jury just be... You just see drip drip dripping off the jury. And the jury be sparkling in the sun. You be like, wow. I can't wait for my whole neck be wet.  Like, he's really that guy. I was fascinated by that shit, man. Yeah, you know what I mean? So hold on, man. Who would I be out of them three? You said... He talked about how fascinated he was with niggas with dripping hair. What is you talking about? What am I supposed to be? Niggas jump out their hairs dripping. The juice is dripping on the chains. The chains activated the glow. I was fascinated. How would it be that?  Because I see how to... You want to come out the closet now? We can... We can come out now.  You know, I don't discriminate. Come on, spicy. You'll still be my motherfucking partner. This is what I'm saying, cuz. Every time I look up... Every time I look up... Listen, I'm not even gonna... Every time I look up, Jeanne is slapping your kicks. Dev, you don't talk too much, Dev. But let me ask you a question. Jeanne is slapping your kicks. Does it mean that they sound a little kinky?  Yeah. I used to be fascinated. It sounded like he wanted to drip on their chest. I just wanted to drip a little bit on me. Karate Earl, nothing on his chest.  Oh, stop mentioning it.  Hold up, hold up. Don't disrespect Earl in this process.  Oh, yeah. And you know what? Hold up.  What? Like, I might really... Listen, cuz this is right here. When I... Listen, when I catch this dude, it's on sight. It's on sight. Cool. Let me talk. Bruce Leroy, he was my sensei. He totally violated the code of conduct of the martial artists. Do you think you could go on another show and do an interview? You did an interview with DJ Vlad. You did an interview with Vlad TV. Let me explain something to you. The journey you took, I hope is worth your blood. What? No, no, no, we're beefing right now. No, stay out of this.   Don't say nothing. Don't say nothing. I will hit you with the claw in 1.3 seconds.  Let me tell you something. Growing up as a kid, I wanted to be you. I thought you was everything that mattered. To not just the arts world, to life. But how dare you disrespect me like that? This was supposed to be... You were supposed to be the first guest on this show. I didn't even tell Gil. I was going to surprise you, Gil. I didn't want you to know. I think you would have blocked my request. And you're going to another show and disrespect everything that I established? Everything that I've become? You was my hero as a kid. You were Superman without the cape. You was Batman. You was Robin. And sometime you was the Joker. Right now, you're the Joker. That's how I see you. I would never respect you again. Don't try to DM me and make peace. When I see...    He don't answer.  It's not time for this. He met you. This is not the time. He met you. He did the Hollywood scene and you're salty. No, hold on. This is not the time for this. There's two parts of this show. It's Gilly. It's Wilder Boone. Okay, let me finish. I got to say what I got to say to you. Okay, go ahead. When I see you, get in your stance. Be ready. One of us is going to walk away today. One of us is going to perish in earth. There's no room on this planet for both of us. How dare you disrespect me?  I'm a grandmaster now. My high rank is higher than yours. You will pay. Just know that. So when you see me, Bruce Leroy, you better run. I'm coming for you. All right. Now, all of this is all because he came home from prison. He wanted to meet Bruce Leroy. Don't mention his name on the show no more. All right. He took him up there. You met him. You thought y'all was friends. You leave all out. I'm going to hit you. I'll call you. Yeah. He like...  He never said that.   I've seen it in his eyes. You don't even know the Martian Order. The connection that we have is Martian Order. You're not qualified to speak with Martian Order. There's no connection there.  Don't play with me. Don't play with me. Don't play with me. Don't play with me. Don't activate your feet on me. If you activate your feet again, I'm going to treat you as a Martian Order. You met him. I'm going to treat you like a Martian Order.   You're not qualified to speak with me. He called me one day to talk about cuss. He called me one day to talk about cuss. Come on, though.  He called me one day to talk about cuss. I really got an issue with it, this dude. This is the third time I called these P.A. hit me back. I told you back then.  He was like, get with me. Call me.    He didn't say call me because he didn't give me his number. He didn't give me his number. He didn't say call. He didn't give me his number. He didn't say call. We don't have the call. We have mutual rights. It's like, we don't have no business together. Why would I call you? I'm like, call me. Get with me.  It's like, my nigga. You Hollywood. Sometimes.  You talk about you. Okay. What I'm going to do. Yo, give me. Let me get your number, man.   Hold on.   That ain't doing nothing. We're not listening. Monday through Sunday. My number, nigga. Tell me why, nigga. What I'm supposed to say that. No. So I'll be all right. Cool, man. Yeah, man. Hit me up. Hit me up. Get with me. Right. Sometimes you got to have that rap. That's the part of life, bro. That's better than me offending somebody. And being like, oh, Gil, I rap, man. Let me get your number.  Why would I give you my number? Let me say something to you right now. We're going to leave Bruce Lee Roy alone. That's not for this. We're going to leave that moment alone. Okay? We're going to move on. All right, bro. We're just going to move on. Because I don't want to tap into that type of... This is emotional for me. Because I had to... When I see him, it's on. I had to, you know. So you... It's emotional. It's emotional situation. All right. He will pay. He will pay. He's going to pay. You hear me? Get emotional. He's going to pay. Let me explain something to you. So now we're going to go into another... Another. I utilize his voice because when I'm talking about the arts, I'm deep. But once again, Gilly, don't ever... Don't you ever activate your feet on me again. Because now I have to see you have the March Orledge and I have to treat you as such. And I don't think you want to be treated in that department of life. Excuse me. So back to who would you be? So back to who would you be? Let me explain something to you. So back to who would you be? Let me explain something to you. That's rough. That's hard. Because James, the big payback. Prince. Raspberry Beret. He was something special. I really dig his old moves. But I could really picture you more as Prince. You know why? Because I could see you like being outside, tight-ass jeans on some high heels. Purple Rain. Purple Rain. I could really picture that. I'm not sure. I could picture that. I'm really not sure. But I'm thinking you're really trying to slander Prince. I think you're trying to... Hold on. Prince then wear high heels. Yeah. But I think you're trying to hate on him. I don't... Prince then wear high heels. I don't know how to receive it. I would just say this. I would just say this. I would just say this. I would just say this. That's not even a part of my nature. I'll be James Brown. I'll be James Brown. I'll be James Brown. I'll be James Brown. I'll be James Brown. Why you wouldn't be MJ, the greatest of all time? I'm not going to speak on MJ. He's a legend. That's all I'm going to say. I'm going to leave it there. That's key to stay clean. Stay clean. No below the belt. Let's stay there. We're going to move on. No disrespect. He's a legend. Rest in peace to the legend. I respect all the legends. Rest in peace to the legends. Now. Now. Now. Now. Here we go. We're going to talk about an incident that took place. We're going to talk about... Back in the day. Back in the day. Back in the day. Back in the day we was on a...  I was poking out. I was a champ. We was on the subway. Fill it up your subway. Let me come on. Fill it up your subway. So it was a guardian angel on there. Now one thing about the guardian angels. One thing that me and the guardian angels... We only had one thing... Guardian angels. We both were smart artists now.  I don't think that's what those bars were. Yes they was. Yes they was. Don't disrespect that. Let's... I'm going to just say this. The guardian angel guys was a group of individuals out of New York. Right? And what they did is they go to some type of city, some of them. And what they do, they just... They just cry on stoppers. Like you might be doing something you ain't supposed to be doing.  No, it's not. Yes they were. They wasn't. I'm not going to... You wanted to be... No, I did. No, I did. Don't do that. You did want to be a vigilante. No, I wasn't. Hold on. I wasn't a vigilante. No. I did my own stuff. I was by myself. No. I was the one that wore the hats with the joint on top. That's the guardian angel. Yeah.  I wasn't. I was my own thing. I was my own thing. I was a vigilante by myself. You wanted to be guardian low. I was by myself. I was a vigilante. Now listen. I'm minding my business. La-dee-da-dee-da-dee-da. I'm smoking. He's smoking a little... He's smoking a roach...  Because he was smoking... And it was Reggie. It was Reginald. So Reggie... Reggie Miller from the three. It was Reggie. It was Reggie. So listen. He's smoking Reggie. He's still smoking now. I'm not going to debate that. So now, I'm chilling. Minding my business. And I peep. Once I noticed, I said, okay. You know, they want to be what I am, a vigilante. I peeped. I said, okay. He's doing his thing out here. Okay. So Gil's smoking. He walked right over to Gil. Tapped him. Excuse me. Did you put that out? Okay. There was no smoking on the subway. He said, excuse me. You see the sign? He pointed to the sign. Gil looked at him like... He was a bitch-ass nigga. If you don't get the... Out of here. So I said, oh man, it's ready to get dangerous in here. Because I'm already educated in this guy's work. You activated retreat mode, you bitch-ass. No, no. I didn't have to activate retreat. Because me and this guy is doing the same stuff out here. But I'm a little higher ranked in him. He's nobody. You jumped on his side. I didn't jump on his side. Yes, you did. I said, listen. Put the weed out. Put the ref out. That's what you said. Put the ref out. I said, cut. I said, cut. I said, cut. I'm not talking to that man or that man. Step back at this.  This is what I said. This is what I said. You can get in whatever type of stand you want to get in. I said, cut. I said, cut. I said, cut. And they don't smoke and put the ref out. I said, cut. I said, cut. I said, cut. I said, I say that, can't wait.  And I noted that he knows something. So I'm like, what? Now he noticed that, he knowledge my True Because it was the stance and I was like, cuz?   That's how they usually go. So this is what happened. Let me explain what happened. Nah, wait a minute, nah, nah. We're gonna break all this down. So, I'll say, Gil, put the refrow. Go ahead, put it out. You didn't say it like that. You lied. How did I say it? He said, yo, you can't smoke in here. Whatever he said.   What did I say? Oh, you talk to me like that. You step back. You step right back.  I said, put the refrow. You said, cuz, cuz, put the refrow. You can't smoke in here, cuz. Just put it out. That's what you see. No, because everybody know that when I'm in martial art mode, I speak differently. You're in martial art mode. I speak because I'm giving you a way out. And I'm giving people a way out when I speak the way I speak. So I'm telling you, like, and this dude identified it. I know something and I know that he knows something, so we both know something, so we don't want to go through nothing. So at the end of the day, no, at the end of the day, listen, listen to what happened. At the end of the day, I'm trying to get you out of this. I'm like, because what he did when he stepped back, he's giving you a way out. And I understand what was going on. No, he wasn't.  So this what happened? This what happened? So I'm standing back. I'll stand down. I'm like, I'm going to stand down on this thing. I'm not even going to get involved. First of all, you know back then I was a young son of the cat. You know I had to have a cooker on me. But you ain't pulling out this thing. I didn't have to, because I was like, you play with me.  But this is what happened. He still ain't pulling out. This is what the dude, the dude backed up in the stands.  I seen it in you. I seen it in you. He came out. Patty LaBelle came out. No, you didn't. What? You know what came out? What's the name? What's the girl name? It seemed like that song just came out. That fear, that was in your eyes?  When he came out, put it out. What's the day came out in his eyes? But listen, when the dude threw at me, he'd see the stands, and what's the day came out with me? What? I'm every woman. He was scared to death. He was so bitchy. He was scared to death. I'm like, yo. First of all, if I was scared out, I'd never talk to him like that. All dude did is, gill had his head. Dude go to try to slap gill head, gill pulled back.  So I read, listen, listen. I'm just sitting back. I'm like, I told gill. He did try to sit back. I told gill. I'm like, I'm listening. I step back, right?  I know he just tried to do what he just tried to do. I said, gill, listen. I looked at you. Tell the truth, tell the truth. I looked over at you, and I'm like, I'm about to swing on this nigga. We going to roll on this nigga. No, no, I was not agreeing.  I wasn't agreeing. You weren't agreeing. He's a martial artist. He's a martial artist. He was bitching. No, cuz.  No, cuz. Just chill. No, he going to put it out. No, no, this is what I did. You were here. When I stepped in. He argued, he come with me, but you taking it for him. He going to put it out. No, when I stepped in. He going to put it out. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Put it out, cuz. Listen, when I stepped in. Hey, don't smoke it down here. I'm trying to roll on a nigga. When I stepped in. No, no, don't do it. When I stepped in, the game was over. Because I stepped in. And I stepped in, and I sealed the deal. No, I didn't, don't do that. Don't lie on my, my rep is on the line. Don't do that. My rep is on the line. I got a lot of martial artist students to look at. They'll never try to, they'll never try to spud on my name. There's a lot of, a lot of martial artist students I got out there. I got Dojo's building. Don't disrespect my name.  But listen, so on and so on, what happened was, I'm looking at him, because Gil looked at me like, I know this mother, this didn't try to do this. I look at him immediately and say, I'm like this Gil, let it go, please. Let it go. Dude tried it again, man. Gil, Gil, Gil, he didn't pull the gun out, but he like grabbed it and brandished it like, yeah. Like, yeah. And what happened? He retreated. He retreated, he was smoking. He was smoking, he was smoking. I didn't say anything. He said, you got to know where to hold him. Know where to fold him. Know where to walk away. Know where to run. You never snack, no refund. When he's smoking in the subway. Listen, I didn't say anything.  But listen, he retreated in a way that was, the way he retreated, like he put a blib and show the jacket, man, this rap was a lie. Because he retreated, like me, like me, I would have retreated in the karate real man. I would have hopped on my tippy toes and bounced back a little bit. He retreated, hold up. No, because you know why? You know why?  So not in a million years did that man think I had that goddamn cooker on me. Then he tried to slap the joint.  That was everything, man. Most niggas would have been, I'd start sitting and talking crazy to him.  He gonna put it out.  You get louder. He gonna put it out. He gonna put it out. I know, I know, turn around and be, cuz, put it out. I'm like this. I knew his status by that stance. I knew his ranking in martial arts by that stance. When he stepped back in and he stance, I said, oh, I know this guy's dangerous. I knew his ranking too.  So he thought it was it. He peeped it. He peeped it. If you were the brand that said, he didn't jump the whole time. He didn't jump the whole movement stuff.    I would have done that like that music. When I came in and things like that, I hit the road, hit the road, Jack.  I know where to hold it and where to fold it, man. I ain't going out like that. You ain't going out like Willie Love Love. I ain't going out like that, man. But listen, man, at the end of the day, it's like, at the end of the day, when I sit back and look at it, man, I really been through some real live battles. I've been through some battles. I know Justin Karateiro used to teach you alone, true warrior doesn't wear drawers. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.  I told you about that, don't disrespect your own.  Last time I'm telling you, I'm gonna flip this table in here. It's the last time.  Nothing on your feet, nothing on your chest. And a true warrior doesn't wear drawers. He didn't say that. They can battle on the roll. Today I'm gonna teach you the all out bun grip. I'm gonna break your ribs. When we're done, I'm gonna break your ribs. I gotta make an example out of you because people out here, you know people out here, they be trying to step to me on the streets and as soon as I get in my stance, they stand down. I've never seen that. People do because they think that stuff you say, you follow us, they don't know that I am who I am but they'll find that I am who I am when I do what I do. Okay, well one day that'll come. Man, this is million dollars worth of game. I'm gilly the king. Hold up, before we end. 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I truly do believe that the key to experiencing more of what God has for you is prayer. And I do believe that God is redigging the wells in the church, and we're going to move into a time of deeper things. How many of you in this place, you say, I want God to move in my prayer life? God's going to touch your life. He really is. And, but I want to talk to you on the four realms of prayer. And this message, when I say realms, I'm not talking different dimensions and moving to different worlds. I'm talking about four realities of prayer. And when you understand these four realms, you understand that categorically speaking, all prayer will find itself under one of these four. Now there are many different facets of prayer. There's praying in tongues, there's praying in your mind, there is praying privately, there is praying corporately, but everything, no matter what it is, can fall categorically speaking under these four. And if you can understand these four, as they pertain to all of prayer, I believe you can receive breakthrough in your prayer life, I believe you're going to hear the voice of God more clearly. You know, we've kind of accepted, just in the church world, there's this idea that the voice of God is not to be heard with clarity. And I know we know, if I say, how many believe you can hear the voice of God, I get a resounding amen, right? But the truth is that most people, most believers, when they talk about the voice of God, they talk about it in a way that's unclear. I'm still trying, I'm still working, I'm still waiting to hear God. And we've accepted that it's difficult to hear God. But you can hear the voice of God with such clarity that when he whispers in the Spirit, you can hear him. You can hear the voice of God with such confidence that when he speaks, everything within you says, I know that's him. This is God speaking to me. And you move on it by faith. And I'm talking about this kind of prayer life that can cultivate the voice of God. So the four different realms of prayer, I'm going to listen, I'm going to go through them here. The first round we're going to talk about is requesting. This is the prayer request. The second one we're going to be talking about is reverencing, which is worship. And worship is an aspect of prayer because it's communication with God. The third one is resisting, which is spiritual warfare. And the fourth one, it doesn't sound as mysterious, but it is very much as much prayer is, and that is reading.  And as you pray this way, as you enter into the deeper realms of the Spirit through prayer, what's going to happen is you're going to hear the voice of God more clearly. The power of God is going to intensify on your life. Your witness, your evangelism is going to transform. Why? Holy Spirit-empowered prayer. When I first began to seek the Lord, as some of you may have heard in the interview, I don't know how many of you watched that episode, but if you haven't, check that out with Sid Roth on its supernatural episode. In that episode, I talked about the season of my life that was a very different season for me, and it's a well that I still dig from today. In that season, I began to seek the face of God, and I'm telling you, as an 11-year-old kid who just received Jesus, I was passionate. I was fascinated with the person of Jesus. And I said, Lord, everything in me has to know the depths and the riches that is Christ. And so I gave my all, my heart, my being to seek His face. And we talked about this experience I had where I was baptized in the Holy Spirit, where I had experienced something that was that something more that many believers look for. But I had made an ultimatum with God. So I go in my room. Jesus says in Matthew chapter 6 verse 6 that when you pray, you go away quietly, close the door. Why? Number one, it's so that there's no distraction. Number two, it's so that God can reward you publicly for what you do privately. There's something in what's hidden and what's exposed and what has power and what doesn't. And so what God did for me in that season of my life was found at a moment where I said, Lord, I'm not leaving this room until you touch me. I feel the anointing of the Holy Spirit when I started talking. How many when I started talking about that, I sense his presence here. And I said, Lord Jesus, you know why? Because when I talk about it, you say, I want that. And when you say you want that, that desire draws him closer because that desire is a form of worship.  And I remember I had my fan in my room was on because it got very warm in that room. My fan was on. My Bible was open. My light was on so I can read the Bible. And I had music playing in the background, soft worship music. And so I had set the atmosphere and I was ready to do everything that I knew to do to seek the face of God. So I go in and I start praying. And I remember I got going and I was excited.  And so I'm praying and I'm praying and I'm praying. And one hour goes by and nothing happened. How many know when you're digging a well, every shovel full is dirt until you hit water. And so I'm digging and I'm saying, Lord, I'm praying, I'm praying, I'm praying. And that first hour was so discouraging to me because often I would do that. I would say, Lord, I'm going to pray for one hour. I would pray.  And I would look up and maybe at the clock 10 minutes had gone by. And how many have experienced that? It's because that's the flesh. It's what I was doing was in the flesh. I was putting forth my effort. So the second hour goes by. I said, OK, I'm going to reach for the more melancholy aspects of my emotion. And I'm going to cry. I'm going to weep. I'm going to seek him. And what we do here, you see, it's we try to guilt God into a response. Lord, don't you hear me? Don't you see me? Don't you love me? That one's like, Lord, don't you love me? Can't you hear me? And we say it because we're trying to manipulate him in a way that he can't be manipulated. He doesn't respond to that. When I get a phone call on my cell phone and the call starts going bad, I'll often tell the person on the other line. I'll say, listen, you're not coming in clear. The call is breaking up. And what do they start doing? Most of the time, they start yelling so that I can hear them. I said, no, no, the problem is not the volume. It's the connection. When you're praying, we try to exude emotion. We exert our effort with emotion. You're raising the volume. The volume is not the issue. It's the connection. And so that second hour had gone by where I'm praying that way. And guess what happened? Nothing. Then I reached for the more aggressive, the more spiritual. I had read books on spiritual warfare. I'm telling you, if there was an adjective, I took that adjective, attached it to a demon, and rebuked it. The spirit of this, the spirit of that, the spirit of this goes, the spirit of that goes. And I'm praying against all of the things I could think of praying against. I'm going back to when I was five. Lord, if there was anything that was five years old block. I'm doing the generational deliverance. All of these different things that I knew to do. And I had got aggressive. And I got angry. And I said, I'm not going to be subdued. I'm not going to be held back in the name of Jesus. And it's good to pray like that when it's spirit led. But I initiated it. So finally, that third hour goes by. And nothing happened. And now, I'll be honest with you, I started to regret my ultimatum. The fourth hour comes. And then I got intellectual. I got theological. I start, well, maybe analyzing and assessing. And I applied the frailty of human wisdom. I said, perhaps that will get, I'll tell you this right now. If it were possible to enter the presence of God by emotion or human effort, in that moment, I would have entered. But it's not. And I remember in that moment, I looked at the clock and I realized how much time had gone by. And I just started to weep. And tears were coming down my face. And I said, Jesus, I don't know how to pray. Jesus, I don't know what to do. You see, there's no man or woman on earth, no matter how anointed they are, who knows the way into the presence of God. Only the Holy Spirit knows the way in. And so I said, Lord, what do I do? I was broken. You know why God will wait till all of your effort has been exhausted? You know why He'll do that? Because often, we'll push, push, push, push for things to happen in our ministry, in our life, in our family, in our business. And we're pushing for it to happen. And it doesn't happen. It's because when the answer finally comes, when the miracle finally comes, He wants you to know who deserves the glory. Amen. That's right. That's right. So that when it comes, you go, I had tried everything I knew to do with that. And He said, that's right. That's exactly where I want you, because an impossible situation is the perfect setting for a miracle. If you're in an impossible situation, I got good news. That's the perfect setting for a miracle. You may be looking at it and saying, God, I don't know how you're going to do it. He will make a way. And I found out that He made a way because I began to weep. And I said, Lord, all I want is you. All I want is your presence. All I want is everything that you have to offer me. Lord, I just want to experience the riches of Jesus. And I'll never forget the Holy Spirit began to speak to me in that moment. And He tells me, turn off the light. I turned off the light. I said, turn off the fan. It was buzzing. I turned off the fan. I said, close the Bible. I said, Lord, are you sure? I closed the Bible. He said, turn off the music. I said, surely you can't move without the music, Lord. And I turned off the music. And the Lord said to just look at Him. See, we try so hard, don't we? The scripture says, be still and know that I am God. We want to be still and know our troubles. Be still and know everything that's going on. Be still and know that I am God. Stillness precedes revelation. Before you can know, you have to be still. And so I'm in that moment. And I remember just waiting on Him. And all I did was imagine and meditate. You know, the scripture says, on His Word, I meditate day and night. Who's the Word? It's Jesus. When you're thinking about Jesus, you're meditating on the Word. And so I'm meditating on Jesus, just thinking about whatever way He's revealed Himself. If He's revealed Himself as Healer, think about what a wonderful Healer He is. If He's revealed Himself as Savior, praise Him for saving you. And so in that moment, I'm just thinking about Jesus in all the wonderful ways He's revealed Himself to me. And the Holy Spirit took my revelation of Him and brought it to reality. And in that moment, I felt like a gentle breeze, not physically, but I felt somewhat of what could have been described as, I don't know how to say it, other than I sensed it in the spirit. And a gentle breeze moves through my room. And I became real calm. I became real still. And I remember feeling like warmth on me, electricity moving through me.  I remember, I sensed them so real, I was like frozen. And I thought, if I open my eyes, I'm gonna see Him. I was afraid to move my hand because I thought, if I move my hand, I might feel it brush up against His robe. And I just stood there still, quiet. That's the key to spirit-led prayer. We're gonna go into the four keys, and I'm gonna, or the four realms, I'm gonna go over those very quickly. But that is the key. I wanted to spend some time on this. That is the key to spirit-empowered prayer. It's silence and stillness. Now silence is the easy part, relatively speaking, compared to stillness. Silence is the putting away of outer distraction. It's turning your phone off. It's letting people know you can't disturb me for the next 20 minutes, the next hour, the next two hours, I'm going to seek the Lord. That takes discipline. That takes human effort. That's our partnership with God. You have to block out the days.  Come pray, come pray, come pray. We say, later Lord, later Lord, later Lord. And then we get into our prayer closet and we say, okay, Lord, I'm here, nothing happens, and we wonder why. It's because you missed the appointment. Now I'm not saying you cannot talk to God whenever you want, but there are certain appointments that he has for us, because he initiates everything. He draws us in. We can't draw ourselves in, and we can't say, Lord, draw me in. If you're asking to be drawn, it's because he put that spiritual desire in your heart to be drawn. So if you're asking for it, when you sense your desire to move in, you're actually sensing his desire to draw you in, because you're becoming one. And so silence is the putting away of outer distraction. Silence is that disciplined aspect of prayer, but stillness is the quieting of the soul.  What do you do when you go to pray and there's the inner cast? Isn't it funny, you don't notice that until you pray. All day you're fine, and the moment you begin to pray, things start running through your mind. Can I tell you something? It's not that that chaos shows up when you start praying. It's that you're quiet enough to recognize it. A good measure of what goes on inside of you is how you feel when you're in silence. Because when you get into silence, you get to judge what's been in your heart all that time. Anyway, so I'm gonna quickly now go over these keys. Number one, requesting. Philippians chapter four, verse six through seven says, don't worry about anything. Instead, pray about everything. Tell God what you need and thank Him for all he has done. Then you will experience God's peace which exceeds anything we can understand. His peace will guard your hearts and minds as you live in Christ Jesus. Now, this aspect of prayer is what gets a bad rap because you often hear it said, you often hear it said, oh, well, I wanna ask God for something but I'm afraid because I don't wanna be hypocritical. I don't wanna be materialistic. I know God wants to bless me. I know God wants to give me something but I'm too afraid to ask that. Can I tell you something? That's a poverty mentality. Church, that's a poverty mentality. And it needs to be broken. God wants to bless you. Now, in our thinking it's, well, what about those starving people in third world countries? Well, that's why God wants to bless you. So you can do something about it.  He's eternally supplied. And so he wants you to request, and I'm gonna show you why. Remember, we talked about this problem with inner chaos. Did you know that the prayer request is actually God's way of removing that inner chaos from you? Look at this. Philippians four, verse six to seven. Beginning of verse six is don't worry about anything. Instead, pray about everything, okay? Tell God what you need and thank Him for all He has done. So some people say if you're asking God for something, you can't possibly be thankful. This contradicts that because it's telling you to, while you're asking God for what you need, you're thanking Him for what He has done. You can be requesting and grateful at the same time. Then verse seven says, and we all quote this one, peace that passeth all understanding, right? But it says, then you will experience God's peace which exceeds anything we can understand. His peace will guard your hearts and minds as you live in Christ Jesus. When? Then. When? Church, when? Then. When is then? It's talking about when you give Him your purpose, come to God, ask Him for what you want, then the peace of God will fill your heart. When you enter to the round of prayer requests, what you're doing is you're collecting all of your needs, all of those things that trouble you and you're handing them over to God. That inner chaos in you, you're taking it and leaving it in God's hands. So the prayer request is one of the keys to stillness of the soul. When we give God the things that trouble us within us, when we give them those things that are on our mind, it frees us to be able to enter the deeper realms of prayer. Here's the problem and this is why the prayer request is looked at negatively. Because when people pray and they unburden themselves with their earthly desires and their earthly concerns, they give it to God, they fill the peace, flood them and then what do they do? They say, thank you God and they go on their way. God didn't give you the peace so that you can walk away. He gave you the peace to move closer. So the prayer request is number one. Number two is reverencing. John chapter four verse 23 says, but the time is coming, indeed it's here now when true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and in truth. The Father is looking for those who will worship him that way.  But I was at a church that had one of those angry drill sergeant worship leaders.  Oh, come on. You can lift your hand or you can yell and they say the same things. You can yell for a baseball game, you can yell for a football game but you can't yell for Jesus, right? They say those things and so she's yelling at people. I'm going, oh my goodness, she's like really angry at this church. Like this is like, this is righteous indignation or she's gotta repent one of the two and she's yelling at them and I remember just the atmosphere was very, it wasn't God, it was the flesh. It was very uncomfortable. And she says, come on, you gotta get used to this because this is how it's gonna be in heaven. I said, I sure hope not. And so I recognize in that moment that you can't demand worship. Worship cannot be demanded, it's cultivated. It's only by the Holy Spirit. All true worship comes from revelation. Not from information. Information makes you think. Revelation makes you worship. And when revelation comes from the Holy Spirit it's not that you have to be coached into worshiping. It naturally overflows because of the revelation you've received. So he says true worshipers are gonna worship me in spirit and church, not in truth, not by tradition, not by mandate, not by demands, not by structure, though structure has its place but he is saying that true worship is going to overflow because of what the Holy Spirit does in our hearts. You know, the scripture talks about holy beings flying around the Father, 24 seven, saying holy, holy, holy is the Lord. You often notice in the scripture that whenever someone cries holy it's because the Lord has revealed himself. Do you realize that these beings for all of eternity are flying around him saying holy, holy, holy, holy, holy, holy? That for all of eternity each time they come full circle they capture a new revelation of God and it brings out a response. They have people say how can they worship for all of eternity? It's because for all of eternity they're receiving revelation. Worship moves the shift, it takes shift from your needs to focusing on Jesus. There's a song, now to me it's old, I apologize if it was one of the new ones back in your day for worship but turn your eyes upon Jesus.  It's poetic, it's beautiful, it's true. When you're looking at Jesus the light of his face is so brilliant. Everything else goes dim. So the prayer request removes the inner chaos allows you to focus on the revelation which moves you into worship. Much easier than the way I was doing it and then I won't spend too much time on this one because I want more time for the last one here. The third one is resisting, this is spiritual warfare. And many of you know about spiritual warfare but I will say this. Anything that sin and the devil does in this earth can be undone through prayer. When you're praying in the spirit, when you enter that realm of intercessory you become an agent of God's dominion and authority in the earth. And you, when you speak, you may be over here but someone over there can receive. You know, the thing about prayer is it's impossible to accomplish nothing in prayer. For every moment you are praying you are growing. For every moment you are praying you are accomplishing something whether you see it immediately or not. We'll be praying for somebody and we talk to them and they seem so resistant to the gospel. The truth is despite the facade that they placed before your eyes because of the faith that you have you can know with certainty that when you're warring for somebody's soul when you're warring for a situation that you are making impact. That's spiritual warfare. John chapter six, Jesus is talking in verse 53. Remember the fourth one is reading. I'm gonna show you something very powerful that happens when you're reading the word because it's not just reading a book. It's not a biography.  He is the word and Jesus himself says that this is a supernatural thing. I know the binding and the pages and the ink are of our earth but this is a supernatural experience every time you open the Bible. Okay, so verse 53, this is Jesus talking. Is this blessing you? Okay, this is Jesus talking.  What's he talking about in the last day? Talking about the resurrection. Before that, he says I'm the bread that comes down. What is that? That's the incarnation. When he comes down to earth that is the incarnation. Say with me the incarnation when the flesh and the blood are mentioned that is his crucifixion. So he's already painting a picture here. He's talking about a journey and we go on a similar journey I won't have time to get into that but he goes from incarnation to crucifixion.  I can't even comprehend that but when you see Jesus you see the Father. Incarnation, God becoming man. Spirit becoming flesh. Carn, meat, carnivore, same thing. Incarnation, incarnation crucifixion. Then he says I live because of the living Father who sent me in the same way anyone who feeds on me will live because of me. What's he talking about there? That's the very next breath. He's talking about his resurrection. So incarnation, crucifixion, resurrection. Now watch this. He goes straight into the other one. And Jesus was aware that his disciples were complaining. They're like what is he talking about? Cause none of this has happened yet. So does this offend you? Then what will you say or think if you see the Son of Man ascend to heaven again? Are you seeing it? Incarnation, crucifixion, resurrection, ascension. Now this is where it really takes a strange turn. So he's talking about this process, okay? And I'm reading this and I'm going okay, this is good. And then he makes a sudden switch just like that. And he says the spirit alone gives life. Human effort accomplishes nothing. And the very words, the very words I have spoken to you are spirit and life. Okay, there's a lot here. Incarnation, crucifixion, resurrection, ascension. What is this he's talking about? You know, Jesus said I can't send the Holy Spirit until I go to my father. Now why is that? I wondered that. Why is it Lord, you had to go up before he could come down? And the Holy Spirit, by the way, is literally down to earth, which is why he can work with us so well. I said Lord, why is that? Well, when I look at my iPad, I got a lot of sermons on here.  But there's something amazing about my iPad. There's something amazing about your phone that the information you have gets stored in what we call a cloud. Jesus ascended on a cloud. The word becomes flesh, crucified, resurrection, ascension, translation. Now the Lord is spirit. Why does it say now? Because then it wasn't. But now the Lord is spirit, and where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. Adam was one thing, but Christ, the scripture says, became a life-giving spirit. This is his translation. What am I saying to you? I'm saying just as my information, because you know, you think about Jesus and all he had to touch and all he had to do, think just for example, when Jairus' daughter was dying and they come for the master and he goes to Jairus and on his way there, this woman with the issue of blood stops him in the middle of the tracks. I'll tell you, if I was Jairus, I'd be angry and furious with this woman who stopped Jesus. 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Live from Toronto, Canada, it's theCUBE. Covering Global Cloud in Blockchain Summit 2018. Brought to you by theCUBE. Hello everyone, welcome back to theCUBE. Live coverage of Toronto for the Blockchain Cloud Convergence shows, the Global Cloud Blockchain Summit part of the futurist event that's going on the next two days after this. Our next guest is Kesson Frank, Aion Co-Founder and CEO of MavenNet doing a lot of work in the enterprise and also Blockchain space around the infrastructure, making it really interoperable. Of course, Jenna Pilgrim Co-Founder and CEO of a new opportunity called NetworkFX. Welcome to theCUBE, thanks for joining us. Thanks, John. So you guys are just on the panel, the real world applications of Blockchain, IBM was on, which has been doing a lot of work there. So this is real world, there's low hanging fruit, Blockchain, everyone's pretty excited about it, but a lot of people get it and some don't, some are learning. So you got the believers, the I want to believe and then the non-believers. Let's talk about the I want to believe and the believers in Blockchain, some real world applications going on as it's evolving. So there's evolution of the standards, technology, but people are putting into use what's going on in the sector around some of the real world cases you guys talked about. I think we're seeing a lot of collaboration as far as real world applications go because I think people are sort of starting to understand that if a distributed network is going to work or is going to be secure, it needs diversity and it needs mass scale. So if lots of different parties can work together, then they can actually form a community that's really working. So as far as real world applications, there's some really interesting ones. As far as supply chain, Catherine Harrison at IBM talked about their pilot about shipping, like bringing together the global supply chain of distribution. There's a bunch of interesting ones about food provenance and bringing together different parties just to make sure that people know what they're eating and that they are able to keep themselves safe. So I think those are two definitely interesting ones. Catherine, blockchain, supply chain, value chains, these are kind of key words that kind of mean something together. Making things work in a new way, making things more efficient seems to be a trend. You're kind of in that world. Is it efficient? How's the tech working? What are some of the core threshold issues that people have to kind of get over? So you know, John, that's exactly the question to ask. A lot of folks out there are looking at blockchain and the promise it kind of represents. And the one big question that keeps echoing over and over and over and is when is this going mainstream? When are we going to see something, a domain, a use case that is actually natively on a blockchain? I think that essentially we kind of owe to ourselves and to everyone that cares about this stuff to kind of ask what's working today, August 2018 and what is still kind of pending. I co-founded a project called Aeon. For us, interoperability is really one of the key facets that you need to be able to solve for to make blockchains real. And again, here's the 60 second kind of argument. If you're going to grow all these solutions that are centric around the use case, they solve for different pain points and different stakeholders kind of care about them. They don't really create a cohesive kind of ecosystem until they could all talk to each other. And then you have to ask yourself, is the original hypothesis where, it's going to be one mainnet, one chain that's going to rule them all and everybody gets to play on it and everybody deploys their dApps on stuff like fabric or R3 or Ethereum or whatever it might be. And that is absolutely not the way we're seeing enterprise actually kind of shaping into this domain of blockchain. What we're seeing is big consortiums that already have value, tangible today out of doing stuff on chain. And the biggest thing to solve is how do I take, to Jenna's point around supply chain or food providence, whatever it is, how do I actually open it so I can now start writing insurance events, payment domains, banking, underwriting, auditing, regulation, there is this gigantic ecosystem that needs to be enabled. And again, we are actively saying, it's not going to be by an organic model where you and I do everything on top of a single solution. There will be a multitude of solutions. And what we need to solve for is, how do we convert them from disparate islands that don't talk to each other into a cohesive ecosystem? This is a great point. We were talking on our intro and we talked last night on our panel about standards. If you look at all the major inflection points where wealth was created and value was created around innovation and entrepreneurship and just industry inflection points, there was always some sort of standard thing that happened, whether it's the OSI model during the early days of the internet to certain protocols that made things happen with the internet. Here it's interesting because if you have one chain to rule the wall, it's going to be up and running. It's not, there's no one thing yet. So I see that trend the cloud has. Private cloud, public cloud, but public cloud was first but people had data centers, right? So both not compatible. Now the trend is multi-cloud. So you can almost connect the dots of saying multi-chain might be a big trend. This is kind of what you're kind of teasing out here. That's exactly what we're about. And I think it's very interesting the point you're making about the similarities between the two domains. We are in a cloud convention and to me, it means two things. One, we absolutely see the mainstream people, the mainstream players and industry starting to take this seriously.  They're definitely taking this seriously now. The second thing, when you kind of think of cloud as a model, how cloud evolved, we used to have these conversations around, are you crazy? You're telling me that my data is not going to be on-premise? It's not secure. That was the most secure. Oh my God, it's in the cloud? What's a cloud? So you kind of think of the progression model that was applicable back then, right? 10 years, 15 years back where we started privately and we kind of tell them, okay, we'll take this sidestep of hybrid and then fully public. Took them a while. Took them almost 20 years to get their heads around this. And there's no one trajectory. What's interesting about blockchain and crypto with token economics, there's no one trend you can map an analog to. You can't say this is going to be like this trend of the past. It's almost developing its own kind of trajectory, a lot of organic community involvement, different tech involvement, different engineering mindsets coming together. So you're seeing an engineering led culture big time going on. That's propelling it up to the kind of conversations of let's lay down the pipes, let's start running af, but all do it within a two year window. Well, and I think the big thing to understand about that is that, yes, you need a whole host of developer talent to build distributed systems. But at the end of the day, those systems still have to be used by people. They still have to be used by society. They still, you still have to understand how to talk to your chief executives about what's happening within your company or what your tech teams are doing. So there's a growing need for marketers, for PR people, for people who speak, I don't want to say plain English, but people who understand how, yeah, they need to translate it and how to bridge the gap between legacy systems and how do you take what you were doing before and transform it to a distributed ledger system? How do you do that without just paving the cow path? It's interesting, it's almost intoxicating because you've got two elements that get people excited. You've got the token economics, which gets people, whoa, the economics and the liquidity of money and or value creation capture equations is completely changing. Some of the business model stuff, which can be translated to software and Dapps and software in general, software SaaS, et cetera. Then you've got the plumbing or the networking side of it where things like latency, interoperability, absolutely matter. So with all that going on in real time, it's kind of like happening at 30,000 feet and trying to change the airplane engine out. People are failing and so there's some false promises. There's also false hopes that have not been achieved. So this kind of clouds up the real big picture, which is this is an innovative environment. And so we're seeing that trend. But when you get to the end of the day, what are people working on to me as a tele-sign? So, Kesson, what's your project? Talk about Aeon and the work you're doing, specifically give some examples of some of the things that you're doing in the trenches. What are you trying to solve? What are some examples you're running into and how does that relate to how things might evolve going forward? So there is a multitude of different problems that we work on, but if you want to stick just to the fundamentals, let's take one gigantic issue that everyone's kind of tackling from different perspectives. Let's talk about scale. And scale is especially in blockchains, especially challenging just because of how the technology works. How decentralized could you get before your face with gigantic latencies and before transaction costs are kind of through the roof? And when you think about it, that is all a result of how we kind of contemplate these early stage networks. It was always the one network that is going to scale to infinity, absolutely not the way it's going to work out. So from my perspective, again, sticking to this one issue, if you could actually give me a decentralized rail that maintains consensus throughout two networks, I can now actually have two trusted kind of go-tos instead of always putting the full burn of the throughput on one single network. For us, that's kind of a no-brainer application to interoperability. If you could actually give me all these trusted networks that work in tandem, I could now start splicing throughputs across many different parallel kind of arrays. Not too similar than how do we solve for super computing. We understood there is a limit on how fast can a single CPU go and we started going wide. And that's an interesting point. I want to just double click on that for a second because if you think about it, why would I have multiple rails and multiple systems? Maybe the use cases are different for them. So you don't want to have to pick one cloud or one chain to rule them all because it's not optimized. We saw that with monolithic systems and cloud is all about levels of granularity and microservices and micro everything, right? Correct. Well, and I would also say that gets into a security issue as well, right? Like so you're talking about multiple layers, but you also will have multiple layers of permission. You'll have multiple layers of how much information someone can see. And what I think is emerging, if data is the new oil, then what's emerging is for the first time we're now able to trust data that we do not own. And for corporations who say, well, I don't know how to market to you if I don't know everything about you. But at the end of the day, they want to be able to leverage your data, but they don't need to secure it. And I think that cyber security issue is a huge thing that's definitely coming. I want to give you both your thoughts on this because we were talking about this last night, we were riffing on the notion that with cloud compute and data really drove scale. So Amazon is a great example. And their value now is things like Kinesis and Aurora, some of their fastest growing services, you've got SageMaker, probably will be announced in re-invent coming up as the fastest growing service. Right now it's Aurora, all data concepts. So the dataization really made cloud. It's okay, what's the analog for crypto and blockchain? Tokenization is an interesting concept. So there's almost an extension of cloud where you're saying, hey, with tokenization, tokenization phase, how do you explain that to a common person? You say, is token going to be the token and the money aspect of it in the economics, the killer app? How does it traverse the infrastructures, plural? Yeah, or is the wallet going to be the browser? Or how are all of these things happening? How do you make sense of this? What's your reaction to that trend? So I actually get excited when I think about what token on the most profound level actually means. When you kind of think of where value happens in the context of these gigantic enterprises, when you think of Apple, Amazon, Google, Facebook, any of them, and you kind of think of what the product is, it's all about the data. And it's all about how do you convince people to give up data so they can monetize on it. And then you have two distinct, like literally gigantic groups of stakeholders at play. You have the users that essentially get something free, right, so I get the post on Facebook or I get to, I don't know, write an email on Gmail, but then you have the stakeholders that actually extract all that value from my activities. The token, I think most profoundly, represents how do we actually get to a unified group where the user himself is the stakeholder that gets to extract the data. And again, the proposition is pretty straightforward. The more you use the network and the more the network becomes valuable and grows, the more valuable the token that drives it. So it changes the value capture equation. Different model, all together. The value creators get to capture the value and now the network effects plays a big part. Which is your wheel up. Yeah, definitely. I think it really comes down to core principles. So now you're able to really get down to what Kessim was talking about about when you're designing a token or if you're designing an incentive mechanism, you're really going down to the sort of deep game theory of why people do specific things. And if we can financially incentivize people to do good, rather than punish them or find them for doing bad, then we can actually create value for everyone. We're designing a new economy that now has the ability to propel itself in a fair and prosperous way, if done correctly. Obviously that's the disclaimer after. I love what you're saying there because if you look at collective intelligence, did a lot of the AI concepts came around from collective intelligence, predictive analytics, descriptive analytics, all came around using data to create value. You feel that, I always talk about fake news because we have a cloud, a media business that's kind of tokenized now, but fake news is two things. Payload, fake news, the fake content, and then the infrastructure dynamics that they arbitrage with network effects. They targeted specific people with fake payload, but the distribution was a network effect. Again, this was the perverse incentive that no one was monitoring, there was no, and this was- Well and I think in that case, yes, there is news that is inherently false information, but then there's also a whole spectrum of trueness, if you want to call it that. So now we have this technology that allows us to overlay on top of that and say, well what is the provenance of my information? And with different layers of blockchain systems, you're actually able to prove the provenance of your information without exposing the user's privacy and without exposing the whole supply chain of the media because there's like, you know, media buyers that we all fancy, yes.  Reputation systems, these things are not new concepts. It's all about stake at the end of the day, right? How do you keep a stakeholder accountable for their action? You need backing. So I think we're definitely on the same page. I love, we can talk about fake news all day long because we think we're going to solve that with our Cubecoin token coming out soon. I want to shift gears and talk about some of the examples we've seen with cloud and try to map that to some navigation for people in how to get through the blockchain token world. One of the key things about the cloud was something they called shadow IT. Shadow IT was people who said, hey, you know what? I can just put my credit card down and actually move this non-core thing out into the cloud and prove to my boss, show them, not pitch them on the PowerPoint deck to say, look, I just did this for that cost in this timeframe. And that started around 2009, 10 timeframe, the early digerati or the clouderati kind of do that. But around 2012 it became, wow, the shadow IT is actually an R&D practice, right? You start to see that now. So the question that we see for people evaluating in the enterprise is how do you judge what's a good project? So certainly people are kicking the tires and doing a little bit, I will call shadow IT, but they're taking on some projects as you were talking about in the panel. How should they, and the enterprises in general, large companies, start thinking about how to enable shadow IT like dynamic? And how should they evaluate the kind of projects? I think that's an area people just don't know what to look for, your thoughts. So I want to add the premise to that because I think that's absolutely the right question to ask. We also need to add the why. Why should we, as people that do native cryptocurrencies should even care about enterprises? A lot of people kind of theorized when Bitcoin was created was, to say it was anti-institutional is an understatement, right? Aren't we meant to kill enterprise?  I don't think it's going to be, we wake up and nobody's using banking anymore and nobody's using the traditional healthcare government and whatever insurance policies. We care about blockchain in the context of enterprise because we think blockchain is a fundamentally better model of doing things. It kind of does away with the black box where I need to be in business with you, I need to blindly trust you, and it introduces a much more transparent and democratic model of doing things. So we absolutely want to introduce and make blockchain mainstream because that's important for us. When you think of how we do it to your question, Aeon is all about interoperability, right? We create a solution that helps scale and helps different networks, decentralized networks communicate to each other. What we also do with Mavenint, the company I run is essentially make that enterprise friendly. It's extremely hard to do a adoption and implementation within an enterprise. They're very immune to change. So going back to- The anti-bodies as they say.  Totally, so going back to your original question, it all starts with a PNL. If somebody is going to authorize an actual production system in an enterprise for blockchain, it needs to create a tangible value, a tangible return quickly. And that's the key. So the model that actually scales is you start by flushing out an efficiency plate. You show the enterprise how you could actually achieve, I don't know, 20%, 30%. That's the order of magnitude that they care about. Efficiency by moving some part of your value chain on top of the blockchain. And it has to have an order of magnitude, total. Difference, so it's really, I mean, cloud is was a great example too. It changes the operating model. They achieve what they wanted to achieve faster and more efficiently and operated it differently. And people were staring at it like a three-headed monster, like, what is this thing, right, the cloud thing? And throwing all kinds of fud out there. But ultimately in the day, it's a new operating model for the same thing that they're trying to do with the old stuff. I mean, it's almost that simple. Yeah, I think in some cases, it's, you need to really, in my previous life at the Blockchain Research Institute, we encouraged a lot of our clients to really take a step back and say, well, will I actually, A, will I have this problem in eight years or seven years or 20 years or 50 years? If we're really fundamentally building a new financial system or a new way of doing things that is fundamentally different, are we building it on old technology? We need to make sure that, and that's why you've seen banks were the first in the door to say, yeah, payments. That sounds great, that sounds great. But the real applications that we're seeing from banks are in loyalty. They're in AML and KYC. They're in the sort of fringe operations and something like payments is going to take a really long time to push through because of that, those legacy systems, because that payments is the fundamentals of what banks do. This is an interesting point, and I want to get your thoughts to end the segment because I think one of the things that we've certainly seen with cloud, over the generational shifts that have happened, the timeframe for innovation is getting shorter and shorter. So timeframe is critical. So if the communities are fumbling around hitting that time to value, it's got to be, it seems to be trending to faster and we don't want to hear slower because the systems are inadequate, they're antiquated, these are the systems that are disrupted. So the timing of whether it's standards or interoperability or business models, operating models, they got to be faster. That's the table stakes. I think it all comes down to collaborative governance. People have to figure out blockchain faster. What's holding us back? Or what's accelerating us? What's the key for the community at large, from the engineering community and the business community, to make it go faster? Your thoughts. So I think we're still searching for the next killer app. If Bitcoin is the reason we're all sitting here today, and I profoundly believe that, what is the next thing that drives change on a global scale? And that's kind of what we're trying collectively as an industry to figure out. In short, many kind of roadblocks on the way, some of them educational, perceptional regulation, technology, but the next big wave that's going to accelerate us to the next 10 years of blockchain is that next killer app. And you know, organizations such as myself, Jenna, that's our day job. We wake up and that's what we do. Yeah, I mean, I've always said, and Dr. Wong, who's the founder of Alibaba Cloud, agreed with me. I've been saying that the TCPIP protocol, that standard really enabled a lot of interoperability and created lots of diverse value up the stacks of the OSI model, Open Systems Interconnect, seven layer model, actually never got standardized. It's kind of stopped at TCPIP and that was good. Everyone snapped into line, that created massive value. Right, massive value. But that's a collaborative governance thing. That's people coming together and saying that these are the standards that we wish to adhere to. We need that moment right now. Yeah, so you see organizations like the Enterprise Ethereum Alliance coming out with a prospective list of standards that they think the community should adhere to. You know, you have the ERC20 standard, you have all these different organizations, the World Economic Forum is playing a role in that and the UN is playing a role, especially when it comes to identity and those kind of really big societal issues. But I think it comes down to that everyone plays a role, that I'm doing my best. I think it's going to be somewhere in the realm of data. So that's where I've chosen to sort of make my course. I think this is a good conversation to have and I think we can continue with it. I mean, I read on Medium, everyone's reading these fat protocols, thin protocols. But at the end of the day, what does that matter if there's no scale? You can have all the fat protocols you want, more of a land grab, I would say, but certainly models, but is that subordinate or is that the cart before the horse? This is the conversation that I think is in the hallways. Totally agreed, totally agreed. Guys, thanks so much for coming on theCUBE, really appreciate it. Breaking down real world applications of blockchain where the global cloud and blockchain summit is an inaugural event. I think this is going to be the kind of format we're going to see more of, cloud and blockchain coming together. Collision course, or is it going to come in nicely and land together and work together with C? Of course theCUBE's covering it. Thanks for watching. Stay with us for more all day coverage. Part of the Futurist Conference coming up in the next two days. We're in Toronto. We'll be back with more of this short break.


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