I would like I would now like to call the January 24th 2022 golf course advisory board meeting to order. Can we start with roll call. So. Yes, Danny. And were you about to say something. No. All right, Marshall Allen. Here speaking. Hey, myself, Andrew Zenske here, John Hay. Paul Meyer. Mayor here. Mayor, sorry. Al Walden. Present. And. We'll start with Ryan Williams. Yeah, you don't have to do the staff and. Okay. If you could just recognize council liaison Tim waters is here also. Tim waters. I'm here. All right. If that's all we can get started. So. Do you want me to take it from here and. If you'd like to. Unless you just want me to go over the. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this is order. Is nominating. A chair, correct? Correct. All right. Is there any. Nominations for chair. Don't all speak up at once. Well, if no one's speaking up, I'll be happy to do it. This is my second year, I think. But anyone else has been more go for it. All right. All right. All right. I'm going to nominate Marshall Allen. Second that nomination. All right. And vote. Does that make it official Jeff? I know if you could have a vote. All right. All right. All in favor of Marshall Allen. For chair. Hi. I think that was unanimous. Yeah. And before I hand it over to. Our new chair, Marshall Allen. I'm. I would nominate myself for vice chair. If. To make that. Quick. Well, that really needs to come from the floor. So somebody on the board needs to nominate you for advice. Technically. Procedurally. Call for the vote. All in favor of Anna's vice president vice chair. All right. Sound unanimous. And I don't have the printed copy of the agenda in the front of me. So you're going to have to help me through this since I was ill prepared to be in charge. No worries. I'll. I'll stumble through it. Today if you'd like me to. Please. All right. So next business is the. Before we move on. Let's have. Let's have Paul introduce himself since this is his first. Meeting tonight. Is it your first meeting two back in. No, I was at the fall, right? I was in one in the fall. Yes. So why don't we have Paul just introduce himself and. And then we can go from there. Thank you, Jeff. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Hello, mayor. I'm a relatively recent. President of Longmont. My wife and I both of us being retired. Moved here in the fall of 2015. Being near our. One granddaughter. And her parents. And we're, we're certainly pleased that we made the move. I've been playing golf for. Let's see, probably about 68 years now. And as I said, I spent a lot of time caddying as a kid. So I spent a lot of time on golf courses. And. For a way that I might give something back to the community. I thought something golf related. The appropriate. I applied for the position. I was apparently was. A tremendous. Competition for the position, but I succeeded. And I'm pleased to be a member of the board. Forward to working with each of you. Look forward to meeting you in person. And hope that I will be able to make some contribution. Thank you. Well, Paul, I'm glad that you were able to survive all the competition. Welcome to the board. Thank you. Thanks, Marsha. And since you've got the agenda. Next order as a proof. Proval of. Is it approval of the agenda? Yes. Which everyone should have gotten a copy of. And we as staff don't have any. I didn't hear what that said. I didn't hear it either. So I have no changes for the. The agenda. So unless the board has any. We would need a motion to approve the agenda. We would entertain a motion to approve the agenda, please. I make it so. I make a motion to approve the agenda. Off of the road, please. All in favor of proving the agenda. Hi. Hi unanimous. Moving on. All right. All right. Now we need the approval of previous. Meeting minutes, which was October 25th, 2021. I recommend we approve the minutes of the previous meeting. All in favor. Hi. Unanimous again. Thank you. All right. Next item is the public is invited to be heard. And we don't have any public here. So. Yeah. Danny. Let's just, Danny, do we have anybody. That wanted to talk tonight? No. Okay. So we'll just move to the next item. All right. Next item is old business. And it looks like. Yeah. Old business. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The golf professional report. Reports. Anybody on, on yours, Ann. So this is, this is the time when the three golf pros kind of do their monthly summary of golf. And I'm thinking they'll talk a little bit about all of 2021. Keith, could you go first? Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the new member. Congratulations, Paul. Nice to have you aboard. As far as Twin Peaks for 2021, I would say that we set a record this year. This is probably the best year. Well, it will go down as the best year we ever had at Twin Peaks. And I think probably the best year we ever had in the golf fund as well. We came up just short of $1.3 million in revenue. And played 41,300 rounds. For the, for the year. And it just kept on going to the point that. We were actually happy to see the snow come and to see the golf course get a break. Cause we were losing between, between the geese and just, just the, the overuse of the golf course when the grass isn't growing, we were losing a lot of turf out there. So. Keith, can you point to anything which contributed to the success this season? I think Marshall, it's still the continued COVID run that we're having. Yeah. A lot of folks took up the game in 2020. They enjoyed the game. They had good experiences for the most part, I think, and a lot of them returned and are playing again. In 2021. So I think that. And again, there's just not a lot of things that you could do indoors for a lot of 2021.  And I think that really continues to help grow the game. Sitting in my office, practicing putting gets old. But I'll bet your stroke is pure. I'm no better than when you met me 10 years ago. We got to get you back in lessons again then. I know. Truthfully. But no, I think it was a great year. I'm looking forward to this year. I think that it'll be interesting to see what happens. Haystack mountain golf course closed in the fall. And it will be interesting to see what sort of effect that has on the city of Longmont. You know, I figure. That there's probably at least 20 to 30,000 rounds of golf that were played at Haystack. And I don't know that they could move to play at Haystack. I suspect it's really full being the only public golf course in Boulder. So, you know, I think it'll have a good effect for, for a city of Longmont sunset and Twin Peaks particularly. We'll wait and see. We saw a lot of it in the, in the fall for sure. So hopefully things continue and we continue to stay really busy once we get open again. Any questions for Twin Peaks? That didn't appear to be so moving on, Jeff. You have another.  All right. I will. I'll echo Keith on. Basically the year that we had. 2021 was. I mean, 2020 was a great year. Considering that. Everything that happened with COVID and then 2021. Kind of. Just topped 2020. Sunset round wise, we did. 34,000. 299 rounds. Revenue wise. Came in at 575,000. And then we had, we had a lot of different things. Revenue wise. Came in at $575,417. Definitely the best round, I think on record for sunset. Keith, if you've had anything better, you tell me, because you were there well before me. But other than that, I mean, literally this is definitely. A lot of things are moving in that direction, but I am very thankful that the courses are getting that break. Like Keith said, we needed, we needed to break the courses. We're taking an absolute beating. Towards the end of December. So. But I'll keep it sweet. Short and sweet there. So. Any questions? Hearing none. Move on. Sam. Hello, everybody. Board members. Mr. Waters. Paul, welcome to the, welcome to the board. Thank you very much for. Signing up with forward to meeting you and seeing you out at the golf course here. Okay. So yeah, Keith and Ryan really just summed it up. I mean, golf. Is busy across the country. It's not just long month. It's, it's been unbelievable. And to give you an example for you Creek. The past 10 years are typical round count is 30. 32 to 35,000 rounds a year. Typical revenues are 1.2 1.3 million. This year 45,000 rounds and just shy of 1.9 million. It's, it's pretty remarkable. Golf is very, very strong. And every indication that I have seen is going to. Going into 22. We're just hoping for the same. The demand is extremely strong last month of the 18 days that we were open. We did 1,604 year rounds. I mean, when the weather is good, the phone rings off the hook, the T sheets are full and it's just been. Very nice enjoying the demand. Any questions. Thank you. Moving on. Next item, please. The next item is new business. We do not have any old business. So each January we have some. Housekeeping things that we need to do. And the first item is designating the meeting day and time. We currently meet the fourth Monday at six. If everybody's okay with that, we'd need a motion to. Accept that and, and then a vote. Yeah, we're entertained. Motion to maintain the same date and time for the meetings. All in favor. Any opposed. That hearing none. It's confirmed. All right. When we can go back to meeting in person, we will need to designate the Twin Peaks. Clubhouse as our formal meeting location. And would continue to like to do that. So we'd need a. A motion and vote on that also. All in favor of. Meeting in person at Twin Peaks when we're capable of doing so. Both. Please. Appears to be unanimous. Thank you, Jeff. Then the next item is. A motion to approve. All in favor. Any opposed. So moved. All right. And then the final thing on new under new business. Is to discuss. Our golf board calendar for 2022. In your packet was a list of. Suggested topics that we as staff and the golf pros could. Bring to you. I'll, I'll just run through them really quick. And then if we could just have. Any other suggestions that you might have. Or pick out the ones that you feel are, are the ones you want to hear. Yeah. Before we do that, could I just get a clarification, please? Yes. We approve that we would meet the fourth Monday at 6 p.m. Is that monthly? Generally it is if we have business and that's kind of what. What we're talking about. Right now. The last couple of years, the, the boards. Have agreed to meet in January and February. And then from there. Meet every other month. And based on. What we have for topics that you all want to hear about tonight will help. Drive whether we will meet every month or not. What I will do is based on the feedback you give me this evening. I'll plug that into a calendar. And we'll review that and make. Our final approval of our schedule for. 22 at the February meeting. Thank you. Yep. And any other questions on that? So. The first topic is for the last couple of years, we've had a lot of questions. So. The first topic is for the last several years, the maintenance staff, Ryan and Dan, as well as the pros have done presentations about the operation of the golf courses and the projects that we've worked on. I think those have been received very well. I think we've had a lot of questions about that. So. Some time in the summer, a conversation about the course conditions. We could have the golf professionals talk about the tournament schedule for the year. And explain to you all. How people get a tournament scheduled. The next item we could discuss is the sunset golf course, 100, 100 year celebration. And we're going to be talking about the golf course. As well as some of the recreation staff met last week to talk about selecting a date for that celebration. And we'd like to share more information as that's developed with you. Right now we are looking at. Thursday, August 18th. At five o'clock as our date. We're going to be talking about the golf course. We're going to be talking about the golf course. Dan and Ryan could. I'm sorry. Okay. Dan and Ryan could talk about the airification plan and, and how they do that in the spring and fall. Along with maintenance practices. We could continue to have updates on the bond project. We could have a joint maintenance facility and work. We're currently doing on the design of the irrigation system at. Twin peaks. We can talk about instructional opportunities for youth in our community. Potential of drought. And if that there will be any impact on our golf operations this year. We could talk about our five year capital projects. Staffing challenges. I think everybody's seeing that whether it's restaurants or the grocery store everybody's struggling to hire enough staff. We could talk about you creek clubhouse design. We were able to have that. Thank you Tim to have the design of the clubhouse included in this year's budget and we will be starting that work. A price second quarter of this year. And then also at the February meetings I usually talk a little bit about the golf enterprise fund, our budget and capital improvement projects and kind of how that process works. So, again, those are just suggested topics if you have any others you'd like to add to that list but would like your feedback on whether any of those interest you as board members or, or how you would like to plan for 2022. Before I call for a vote on just recommendations are there any other items board members would like to have included. I just have this is more of a question that an item you know, I play a lot of golf alone and obviously and I get, I hear comments and feedback from the public mission we have somewhere there to pass it on to the pros. I mean, I, some of it I talked to him with the counter about but some of it's just you know, like, why aren't the sprinkler heads have you already tradition distance at you creek and will we ever level off the T boxes and things like that I don't know if there's any comments from these meetings for those comments that we hear from the public. We can handle those out that way, or you certainly can call me or email me anytime we could review that and, and then depending on how it would fit into agenda we could add that. So one of those operational things I'd rather hear up front, so that rather than having to wait for another meeting that if, if possible staff and the pros could deal with that right away. I would recommend that as you hear these items complaints or compliments even that they individually get a hold of Jeff's office and turned it in as he suggests. First, a lot of them are, you know, are related to the course where I'm at I usually talk to one of the pros about it. They're pretty aware we're pretty good open dialogue with all three of them. And sometimes it's just, if I had the information maybe I could, for lack of a better term, quiet some of the comments I hear because golfers can be pretty vocal about things they don't care for, you know what I mean. That's what they've pre-putted. Right, exactly right. Yeah, okay. And as far as the agenda items, I think it's a great agenda. And I love hearing about the maintenance and the things we're doing I've learned a ton over the last year about golf and golf courses. The chair would entertain a motion that all the various arms of Jeff enumerated as appropriate be included in our, in our regularly scheduled meetings. Call for the vote. I'll second that motion. Thank you unanimous thanks Jeff. Okay, I will bring a calendar back to you in February with these items spread out through the year and we'll get your final direction at that meeting then in February. Well, according to the agenda I finally found in my trash. I don't know if it just has eaten me alive. I don't mind I think I don't some staff. Are there any additional staff related issues or items. I do not have any. Okay. I'll just say one thing about believe it or not my wife and I go to Las Vegas about four or five or six times a year and we go there we play golf. And so this last year I was really, very curious as to, you know, how they were doing on, and they were just not full. Just, and I couldn't believe it. I thought well where's this all coming from. And they just said, they said that so many people have been laid off from the hotels that that that's what they were doing was playing golf because they had nothing else to do. So it's someplace where golf is you know year around. It was just anything ever so I guess it's all over the country. It's just in this way. John is your head to Vegas if you need anyone to carry your bag, you might check with the board. We will, we're scheduled April that's our first trip this year. I've been in Florida all winter it's no different down here although might be a little more common this time of year, but I was here late November early December and it was really busy that down here also which is uncommon for that time of year. I guess it's the same everywhere in the US. The agenda I finally found we only we have no other items. Before we adjourn I might ask if there's anything we've overlooked I want to re clarify or go back and discuss in further detail. I would like to just say actually to all of the pros. I kind of would like to hear about all the social stuff that the that's going on at the golf courses like your 100 year anniversary. Like, I like golf and the social aspect of it so because I know Keith you had a concert last year that I think you said turned out well. And those kind of things. As we as we get more of those. That information we will definitely pass that along to you and feel free to reach out to me at the golf course to and on any of that stuff we have not scheduled the concert yet, but I suspect that's coming. Like I said it was success so we think we want to try it again. And those pretty widely promoted in the community. I think it was fairly well promoted. Yeah, I mean I wasn't involved in the promotion of it. So that would kind of you'd have to speak to Sam, who works down there with Jeff, and right. But yeah, I mean, for a first time doing it I think we had just the right amount of turnout. Oh, it's great. So that we were able to learn from it we're able to you know, just determine whether or not we want to go forward and do it again. Okay. And as far as the celebration at sunset and by all means reach out to Ryan because he's going to be having lots of information on that to talk to you about and Ryan to your point earlier Ryan that to my knowledge I think the best year that I remember sunset was 521 so you surpassed that last year. Good to know I didn't I didn't go that far back in the in the computer system if we really have that back when I was a kid when I was playing there right. It doesn't go that far back I think that was. If I'm not mistaken that was 97 or 98. It would have been the first year moved out here then. Yeah. And I think you'll all be interested at our next meeting of maybe having you discuss briefly some of the items that are being discussed for the celebration. And that's what I was going to mention I was going to say, you know, the next meeting will put some some some stuff together. And Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and Jeff and the rest of the group involved will sit down we'll talk about it and we'll present some stuff to let you guys know what we're planning what we're thinking and see how it goes from there. Well, like you said it was a, it's a big accomplishment or you want to state it that not many goals. Exactly. For the city. Not many public facilities for the city of Longmont are in function at 100 years. And if they are fantastic you know it's it's, it's, it's a difficult, it's difficult to keep something running for that long. I'm excited about it. I've already got hats that I've ordered I got a lot more hats, a lot more apparel coming for it so it's it's going to be good. It's going to be a good year for for golf and for just a historical side of the sunset so we're excited. Yeah, and my last note Sam, I'm really excited to learn more about the you create clubhouse design because I mean, that is, that's huge. Well, I am and and again, as, as Jeff said thank you so much Tim for making this happen. It's extremely exciting. And I'm very much looking forward to seeing what's going to happen with that it's going to be fun I mean it's long overdue. I mean, main, the main facility is getting done. Out of all of our competition. I'm not complaining we have the worst clubhouse on the northern front range of Colorado, and it needs to happen at some point. Sam, you said worse in terms of size capability, what. Yes and yes, all of the above. I mean it's, we've got indoor seating for 24 people. I mean, that's kind of says it all I mean it. It needs to happen at some point I'm glad we finally getting the, getting the wheels in motion here. Sam, for what it's worth in Jeff on my, on my to do list. First of every month is to check with Harold Dominguez on exactly where that project is. Thank you. It won't get behind schedule I can promise you. I'm really looking forward to the progress on this it's going to be fun. Any other items really quickly for re adjourn. Well, let me apologize for my shaky start I was in this prepares obviously I needed to be, and that will not happen again. I've been chair before other things so I think I know what to do I just needed to do it. I would entertain a motion to adjourn. Thank you so very much. Thank you. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good night. Good night.


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Better at playing a musical instrument. You have to practice sure, but you also need excellent instruction from experts at TFNN You'll get advice and guidance from the authority and technical market analysis And it's not just dry tedious text either TFNN airs live financial content streamed live on TFNN.com and TFNN's YouTube channel with Tiger TV live every market day from 8 30 a.m to 4 p.m. Eastern for free each host is an experienced trader and gives their take on the market while taking calls and questions live from around the world From the moment the market opens until the closing bell sounds Tiger TV has eight different shows with expert hosts to help you make the right Moves with your money watch online at TFNN.com or on TFNN's YouTube channel and become the investor You were born to be TFNN educating investors Toll free at 1-877-927-6648 internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER> Welcome back folks. So we established that we're in the end out. It's October 1st So we're in that period of time where we typically see some type of bottom form with markets moving up through December So that's what we're anticipating what we also know about and we also know that three of the four equity future contracts have Valid Gartley by patterns that are in place the one that does not a ZNQ So we're paying attention to today's candle formation at the end of the day If it's a bullish reversal candle, then you've got all four that will have Gartley by patterns What we also know is that the markets have been in a consolidation pattern and here we can see the Consolidations and we can see that prices still within we can see that the NQ testing the bottom of consolidation ES this morning testing the bottom the Dow equity future contract testing the bottom if those levels hold You know the expression. It's a coined here by Tom O'Brien I owe him a royalty when I say this if you can't bust it to the downside Price will try to bust it to the upside and that is really the setup as we speak right now We've got a Brent on the line and Martinez, California Brent. Thanks for calling. Thanks for holding How are you doing this morning and thanks for being up so early? I'm doing great. How are you this morning? Excellent. Thank you very much for asking and Pfe Pfizer is I believe what you're calling about and Tell me how I can best help you on this This is one I've been watching for a while. I just Was wanted you to take a look and see if there's some level down lower that it looked like maybe around $40 There could be a decent buy point down there, but I want to get your thoughts on it Sure, okay, so let's do as we typically do folks We start by taking a look at our three time frame charts here that show the current market profiles The market profiles the top of those profiles tells where sellers reside the bottom where buyers reside in the centers Where both buyers and sellers believe that it's fair value with inside that range the range being the top in the bottom So on a daily basis Brent We have Pfizer that has been below the bottom of its daily profile for the last four Sessions out here what we go take a look at you know in a few moments to see if that was a bottom signal or not But being below the bottom of profile suggests you go to the next level I would typically then move over to the weekly prices below the weekly profile as well Looks like this will be for three consecutive weeks So that says I go over and take a look at the monthly chart So the monthly chart prices trading right now and closed above the top of its monthly profile That's 42 24. So you had mentioned a $40 level 40 to 24 from a profile standpoint Would be the next support level price for to close below that that could bring 39 23 37 22 into play Any questions Brent before I move on to the other charts about these profile levels or anything I like that it might be some like a BC pattern if you did it on the daily Yes, I have I guess it's around 52 and they can see where it came down to a little retracement back up and then Maybe on these black charts and that's a good on there to see what you come up with Yeah, so the aid so excellent so the a to b equal CD to the downside the 1 to 1 level is Projected at the 4106 area Now if this is an a to b equal CD to the downside and if we take a look at the swing point out here that swing pointed Volume of 32 million shares it was passed with 37 So it's what we refer to as a confirmed a to b equal CD if that if we don't see some other bottom on the other charts Out here that would become the target what I would also say is that this is more likely to be more than a 1 to 1 a To be equal CD to the downside and the reason that I would make that conclusion is because the retracement That's the b to c leg folks was only 32 percent. I mean less than a point 3a to retracement it typically those shallow retracements will result in an extension of that c to d leg Not that it can't end at 4106, but this has the signature of wanting to move lower Brent So 4106 is the 1 to 1 39 31 is the 1 to 1.272 Any any questions about that about that? I? Think that's it for that matter. Thank you. Okay great. So let's pull over the other charts We're just curious as to whether or not there's any kind of bottom signal out here We'd be looking for a TD 9 count. We don't have that we'd be looking for roads Mentum indicator signal we don't have that we do see that the oscillator and change line change from green to red That suggests that over the coming sessions price and that level will catch up to each other But basically as long as price remains under that red oscillator and change line that closed last night at 44 16 That suggests move down to 41 39 That's the next break out level and that's on the daily time frame the weekly chart out here Because with price trading below the bottom of it's a weekly profile that could say prices over the longer term headed back to 34 33 So that's what I've got at here So the only pattern that is in play Brent as we take a look at it Is that a to b equal CD to the downside for Pfizer at the moment today or yesterday was bar number five of a TD 9 count? So we're three to five trading sessions away from that potential pattern Identifying some type of bottom up there any questions about the daily or the weekly there And it's going to stay patient with that that's kind of With what she just went through makes sense to sit tight and see what happens Yeah, I think so, you know, the only thing that that would change Pfizer's outlook Really would have to close about 46 72 to say that the downward move is over out there So yeah, the only pattern in play right now is that a to b equal CD So I'd be watching as price gets down towards 41 0 6 there's a bullish reversal candle That would be your buy area if it don't get a bullish reversal candle then keep looking at added as price moves down to the 39 area How was your how was fishing and each route? Yeah, yeah, I actually had a real good day with my son and it was a lot of hiking Yeah, when I came back later in the day I checked my phone and it just it'll keep track of how much he's covered Okay, onto your phone is on. Yes. Yes, it was close to four 14 miles or something with the total Well, oh, that's a good day. That's a that's a good workout And I did have kind of the typical Of the classic, you know, the one that got away that the biggest fish I had the day to come off It's all single barber took So you just have to you know, that's just part of the deal. Yeah happens in it But I had a really nice fish on and I'm gonna fish along if I could tell it was something of size and yeah Came off That's all right, but we did you know probably gather between the two of us It's getting close to 20 fish. Oh, that's great. That's really great. That's great Well, Brent, thanks for calling in early Glad you had a great time with your son caught some fish and enjoy your weekend and we'll talk to you next week. I hope All right, thank you very much. Do you have a great weekend?  Thanks for calling in. We've got another question or that has come in This one coming in from Hector and the fuel injectors and Hector wrote in let me see here Hector is is asking about the gdx. So let me get the gdx up on our screen here And in the case of the gdx Hector's asking the following questions It's a gdx yesterday on a monthly basis closed underneath the b-point and did it with the volume and that is correct So the b-point let me just take a look at the monthly chart here for you Let me expand it out just a tad And so the monthly gdx b-point of an a to b equal cd to the downside was a month of march did volume of 4 499 million and you can see on my chart in the bottom right that the volume for the month of september was 509 So yes, this is a confirmed a to b equal cd to the downside Based upon everything that we just you know Based on how we review things if we take a look at the weekly chart, which you didn't mention You also have another confirmed a to b equal cd to the downside the b-point being the week of march 1st That did volume of 152 million shares and last week the volume on this. Oh, I take that back. That was light volume So you don't have a confirmed a to b equal cd to the downside on the weekly chart Now let's remember that as we go take a look at steve's white background chart steve roads with tf and n We'll be back in a few to review the gdx the gold miners etf Are you looking for a way to consistently add winning trades to your portfolio? 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We recorded today's show between eight and nine We're gonna do that Really, I think through it looks like through the end of october through the end of this month So for the next three to four weeks out there, we'll do that on fridays And what we're doing is we're taking a look at the gdx right now for hector and patty And as hector has pointed out the gdx on a monthly basis has a confirmed a to b equal cd to downside I believe really what hector is getting at in his question is that question is If you pass a b point with volume does that guarantee that you're going to have an a to b equal cd to downside And I wish I could tell you the answer to that was yes I cannot tell you that that's the answer And so it's a likelihood But look even the weekly chart that we were looking at which we now have confirmed that it has passed a b point With lighter volume it could still fulfill an a to b equal cd So even if you pass a b point just passing the b point of the pattern Brinks about the a to b equal cd, but like brent and I were taking a look at when we're looking at fiser hector We're not just tied to one pattern out there We have a handful of patterns that we know Helps us to identify tops or bottoms out here the a to b equal cd pattern is one of those And we pay attention to to that on the daily time frame out here So look here what we also know is we've got price below the bottom of the daily profile price below the bottom of the weekly profiles We also know on any bounces or bottom where resistances So the battles to any on any upside move inside the gdx really going to be 30 32 and 30 58 now 30 58 is the level that I would be watching mostly Because what we can see is prices below the bottom of a bullish structured daily profile and any counter trend moves Will typically find resistance at the center of those bullish structured profiles So hector if you're to see a move above close above 30 58 That's an indication that this may be more of a bottom now. You're saying to yourself right now What do you mean a bottom steve? You haven't even showed me any kind of bottom. I know I'm about to do that So we're going to pull over the gdx right now and as we pull this over here What we're going to see is we have a valid Roads momentum indicator bottom and a valid td9 count now We can also see that yesterday price stopped at that red oscillator and change line And that's a key level that price needs as far as battleground areas 29 63 Is the next one up for the gdx if price can close above that That would really signal to us hector that you should anticipate a move to 30 58 If price is above 30 58 the next battle is at 30 109 and above that 31 56 a close above 31 56 On a daily timeframe is going to tell us about a Change in trend signal now that's on the daily timeframe. Remember the weekly chart that we looked at where Where we saw that the b-point has been passed but with lighter volume Well, we also happen to have this is currently see a basal Chapman is wave number seven That's letter g on my screen out here now This letter g this part of the wave can extend So we won't get a confirmation of this until next week, but we do know Wave number sevens are valid top or bottoming signals. Do they all work? No, not any path There's not any pattern. I found where it always works out here. That's why we use protective stops We use a position size if you use position sizing life is going to be good no matter what So here you are. Do we do have a potential bottoming signal on the weekly? We know we have now a to confirm bottoming signals on the daily Whether you have two or one doesn't matter doesn't increase the odds or anything along those lines In the monthly timeframe, we don't have anything to suggest any kind of a bottom out there So hector I hope oh the other thing when a bottom is forming When there's going to be some type of change in trend What we always like to do is look at the intraday time periods Now this is a cash indices chart means it trades for 390 minutes and I like to have equally Time bars out here. So that means you have two 195 minute bars in a trading day Well, it turns out on the 195 minute time frame. We have a TD 9 count bottom prices Inside it's a bullish structured profile in a close of about 2967 will suggest to run the 3033 There's 330 minute time frame charts out here, but I don't have a valid bottoming signal There was a roads meant to indicator Signal out here, but we didn't get a bullish reversal candle in time to complete that pattern So we don't have a confirmed bottom on that time frame for the 65 minute We have a confirmed roads meant to indicator bottom the 30 we already covered though. We didn't cover that We've got wave number seven here. We've got a TD 9 count We got a roads meant to indicator bottom price cruises through the first TD 9 breakdown resistance level for the 30 minute chart Gets up to the second one. That's where price turns back And so watch 29 90 if price can close above that tells you about a further rally out there So that's a full in-depth review of the gdx sector And I hope that that helps you out with regard to the different patterns that are going on What we must also realize and recognize is that and I'm going to pull over gold and silver Is that they too are going to be a significant influencer with regard to the direction of the gdx And so therefore what we want to understand is what's the pattern inside of gold and silver? And so now when we go take a look at gold, what gold did yesterday was it completed a bull sash candle You can see an a to b equal cd pattern that I have drawn in here the 1 to 1.618 area was hit And so this has a confirmed Gertley buy pattern The reason why it's a Gertley pattern is because if we come off the low from august 9th That was a nice move to the upside you try to buy that a to b equal cd to the downside that gets confirmed We did have one that was confirmed back on september 20th That has failed and now we have a new one that was confirmed and that was confirmed yesterday You can also see I'll get rid of the a to b equal cd pattern out here You can also see you've got a brand new profile that is formed So resistance inside of goldilocks is 1768 and support is 1734 so gold has a confirmed bottom Silver also yesterday confirmed an a to b equal cd to the downside. It was a 1 to 1.618 Yesterday was a bullish piercing candle Now I'm going to go ahead and get rid of the a to b equal cd pattern So both gold and silver have generated bottoming signals to go along with what we're looking at inside the gdx Now in the case of silver it has resistance at the bottom of its weekly profile. That's at 2272 above that you're looking at 2318 On the right hand side I've got the us dollar index and it's possible that this could form a three river evening star pattern today Just depends on the candle configuration We do see that there's a new profile that's attempting to form I'm going to get rid of the a to b equal cd here just to clean up the chart for you You'll see the new profile is attempting to form. This is attempting to form below price That is a bullish message. It says that the supply is down below price out here And so the us dollar index should find support at 93 74 But don't worry gold and silver can move higher with the us dollar index moving higher I won't go through that this morning, but you can go take a look at yesterday's archive. We covered that Um We covered that in the chart patterns behind it so that you too can see that signal So hector to go along with the gdx. You've got bottom patterns inside of gold and silver Look if those bottom patterns fail and gold and silver Then that tells us that the gdx is likely going to go ahead and make that a to b equal cd To the downside that you and I looked at at the beginning So thank you very much for writing in much appreciated and let's go on to our next question And our next question Next well, let's get the next question here coming in from the tiger's den from snp and snp wants to take a look at ticker symbol sq square So let's get square fired up here while it's being fired up there I'll get that going on my other white background charts And the question is Steve can you look at square? I just wanted your opinion on direction from here So what we know about this snp is uh That price is trading below the bottom of its daily profile. So we know that's not a positive But price has found support at the top of the weekly level. So as long as price remains above 235 17 Uh, it's not going to give you an indication of a significant move lower And if price gets below closer below 235 17 That's a suggestion that price could pull back to the 200 and 80 cent And 209 39 cent level that is its bullish structured profile Before price would get down there the next level of support on the monthly timeframe would be 217 So now what we need to do is go take a look at square See if we can do this real quickly. We're about to go into a break No bottoming signal and you did get a close below the hammer candle So that would suggest snp 209 80 could be its target But no bottoming pattern out here inside of square in the daily No bottoming pattern on the weekly chart So 209 80 is what that is just that price wants to target That's inside ticker symbol s qc road with tf and n will be back in just a few Are you having fun trading the markets but having trouble finding like-minded individuals to discuss your trading and investment ideas with Become an apex predator in the trading markets and join the tiger's den trading room only at tfn dot com The tiger's den is an exclusive trading room where successful traders from around the world come to exchange trades and ideas Join the den and surround yourself with these sharpest minds in the trading world Subscribers to the tiger's den are also the first to have their questions answered live on air And can privately chat with our tfn and host live during their shows Interact with other tigers and tiger's as they share trading ideas News analysis and discuss the market action all trading day Subscribe to the tiger's den risk free with our 30 day money back guarantee and become part of the tfn and trading community tfn and educating investors Are you in the market for buying or selling real estate in the bay area including the surrounding st In petersburg tampa and clearwater markets tiger real estate LLC is a firm that has extensive experience in the tampa bay area Whether you're looking to sell your current property for maximum value or you're in the market for a second home or investment property Tiger realty has the experience across all areas of real estate in the tampa bay area to help buyers and sellers Make the most informed decisions across all price levels from the price You should be paying per square foot in certain up and coming areas to the type of cash flow investment properties are capable of creating Tiger real estate can help you make the best decision when it comes to all areas of the market Before you make one of the biggest decisions of your financial future call tiger real estate LLC today at 727 329 83 22 or email us at tiger at tfnn.com. 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That's tfnn.com then hit watch tiger tv Welcome back folks hector wrote in And a really mindful question out here It goes like this september only had 21 trading days Does that make a difference on the monthly volumes as the march swing point had 23 days? Very mindful to think about that. I've never actually Thought uh that through hector and I don't know the answer to that at this stage here I just say volume is volume But what we want to do is you know the larger picture that might be where the gdx has had it to You know in that monthly chart But we want to be mindful as well about what's going on on the other time frames You know the weekly and the daily and then the intradays to really give us that signals Whether or not there's a bottom that's in place and levels that price has to overcome to really confirm that for So good thought there. I don't know the answer To that and uh, so Thank you and sorry at the same time We've got a good question inside the tigers den the tigers den This is for zip and zip wants to take a look at cnh industrial and the question is looking to add Okay, so here's what we know about cnh industrial right now it closed yesterday Back inside its daily profile notice zip how Notice zip how that's a bear structured profile So if this is just a counter trend retracement price should find support and should not close below 1647 If price closed below 1647 the message there is to pull back to the bottom of that profile at the 1589 level If price were to close below 1589 then we're looking at uh Well, I don't know what we're looking at well We're looking at a move lower because the bottom of the weekly profile is 1572 So use 1572 as your benchmark to the downside if price were to close below that then you're looking at 1387 This is all profiles. Let's pull over cnh i and look at the daily and weekly time frames as well on my white background charts We're looking for its top or bottoming signals anything to assist zip. So with regard to this instrument It's really just a sideways consolidation. You can see that i'll draw that pattern in here for you Let me get that tool. It's going to be approximate with regard to what I draw in here for the consolidation so um Yeah, I mean I've missed it kind of missed it somewhat completely To the bottom but now since that's what we're looking at. So I see a consolidation pattern more than anything else So just a bunch of sideways movement out here. That's what the daily chart shows the weekly chart really shows the consolidation much clear And the consolidation is really in between its uh TAS market profile levels 1572 to 1710 So with regard to an entry point and something that's consolidated much like the markets right now The best area would be at the bottom. So if you're looking for an entry point Use 1572 as a price target then look for those intraday time periods and look for some type of bottoming Pattern which we don't have inside of chni as we speak right now for its 30 minute time frame So hope that helps you out zip and thanks much for the request out there I see we've got another request here by email This one coming in from uh, johnny d in north carolina. Would you please do your analysis on bmy? Absolutely. So let's go pull up the chart for bristol mires bmy again is the ticker symbol and let's see what it says At the thing is a little rocket ship to the downside now price closed below The last uh three out of four days below the bottom of that bullish structure profile So this is really helpful because you if you were listening to what our analysis of that last stock I apologize if I forget which one that was but we talked about a When price closed we were looking at a bear structure profile here We're looking at a bullish structure profile when price closed below it Which it has the last I says at last three out of four trading sessions Yesterday being the exception to that countertrend rallies will stop at the center of that profile. That is exactly remember We use the body of the candle That is truly the essence of price the wicks are just nothing more than an extreme emotion during that time period of that candle session out there So we use the body of the candle and that is exactly where price stopped now in the case of bristol mires And then yesterday that was two days ago. I apologize and then yesterday price took out a uh a little junior swing point out there Price is below the bottom of the weekly profiles. You're inside You're closed inside the box on the monthly time frame So what this is suggesting to us johnny is that price could be targeting 5541 now We want to go take a look at bristol mires on the white background charts Just to see if there's any kind of signals for us and what to be watching for so let's open up the daily time frame And as we do this we populate it. We'll see that yesterday was bar number eight of a td9 count We see that price is stretched It has generated a roadsman to indicator signal and brister mires mires could generate some type of a relief rally That could begin today could begin between today and monday And that's just simply based upon that td9 count. We know that the low that the td9 count first has got to form bar number five Today, what does it need to do? I'm sorry bar number nine today. What does it need to do in order to generate that? It must be a close below 5984 If there's a close above 5984 Well, then that pattern will be negated the roadsman to indicator signal will not be negated But that's what you'll be looking for and then we'd be looking for a counter trend rally Of course, you're still using that 60 66 level as a key level that price would need to overcome If it does overcome that then what we're looking at johnny is to move up to the top of the profile 61 57 A close above that would say man. This is going to be a relief rally that takes you up to 65 14 Maybe it's more than that. Let's look at the weekly chart. What kind of signal do we have on the weekly time frame? Well, on the weekly time frame, we're only in bar number six and the weekly suggests that price is going to pull back to 56 68 56 68 is a prior td9 count to a breakout resistance level Um, that's just a target. Well, it'll hold that level Maybe maybe but you're in bar number six. So right now brister Bristol Myers suggested it wants to head lower You do have some signals that point that you could get some type of relief rally in play between now and a Between now and between yesterday really and uh Monday out there. So johnny, I hope that helps you out Thanks so much for writing in and have a great weekend. I believe there's one other question That has come in. Yeah, there's one other here. This is for, uh, tony in, uh, pennsylvania lude wicks quarter pennsylvania never heard of that But i'll look it up on the map and uh, thanks so much for writing this So, uh, what tony wants to look at can we look at v i c i we absolutely can Let me get that going here on my white background chart for v i c i There we go. Let's go see what vicky Is uh communicating to us this morning So as we pulled this up on the white on the uh, we can see prices below Its daily profile price closed. Well, the weekly is not the week is not over. That's a both structured weekly profile So tony first thing to watch today is does vicky properties closed below 29 29 if it does Then that suggests that price should pull back into the 25 39 to 26 28 level again We're just going profiles. We go daily to weekly and then to monthly. That's what we've done here Now we're going to take vicky and i put her on the white background charts Because what we're looking for is any kind of bottoming signal and as we take a look at this We don't have that on the daily time frame. You're in bar number three No rogment and indicator signal that's been triggered here.  We take a look at the weekly time frame charts We populate this we're going to see no bottoming signal here. So that suggests headed lower So when it comes to vicky vicky wants to head uh lower lower to where you know There's probably an a to b equal cd pattern on the daily time frame But right now we don't really need to do that We can just simply use our monthly profiles as the likely next price target areas And that's at the 25 39 to 26 28 level out there So we've been through all the questions in the den. That's a beautiful thing all the questions by email That's a beautiful thing. 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That's<PHONE_NUMBER> Don't forget you can listen to tfnn live on your mobile device 24 hours per day Go to tfnn.com and hit watch tiger tv. That's tfnn.com and hit watch tiger tv Back up folks. So we've got a request here to take a look at ticker symbol A's ae ae zs atonara Zen terrace ink out here the question is where are the resistance levels? So as we take a look at the profiles price closed above the top of the daily profile You see that's bullish your next resistance zone. So the countertrend rally if it's only a countertrend Will not close above 87 cents. That's the center of the weekly profile price closed above that you're looking at 99 cents The monthly chart as you pointed out when i punched post this up on the screen looks good because you got very So above the monthly profile now if you're wondering why did price stop where it did at 75 cents? That would be a good question Well, we can answer that and we can answer that because we know where the td9 breakdown levels are The td9 breakdown levels Let me pull this back here to the left a little bit was right at 75 cents So, you know the rule out here this formed a nice td9 count bottom a nice roads momentum indicator bottom Price got up to that resistance level of 75 cents. That's the first key level Dan that you want to see price close above if you close above 75 you go up to 89 If you close above 89, you get up to 109. That's what the daily time frame tells us If we look at the weekly the reason to really point that out and show that I didn't come up with it Dan just asked about the ticker symbol is is the importance of understanding those breakdown And breakout levels and folks I teach that to you So if you and you really want if you're a trader you really want to understand these tools you can subscribe to mastery probability For 29 days it won't cost you anything And you'll learn this pattern and many more out there. So take advantage of that while that opportunity is available on a weekly basis Out here. There's nothing else really to report on so uh, dan I hope that that helps you out though. So folks Let's not forget that the market that we are in right now Is nothing more than a consolidating market and consolidating markets and we can just take a look at those So as soon as I get back to wherever I put that maybe right here. No right there Oh man stevo come on So here there we go. So here's our consolidating markets out there And uh, they're very difficult to uh to uh trade out there And the cool thing though is if you break the consolidation What's the NQ is threatening to do this week? We then have a measured move price projection It's called equal to or greater than a consolidation folks. Stay tuned. We've got great programming lined up Thanks for joining me here at eight o'clock and have a fantastic Friday fantastic weekend. We'll see you next week


At 504, I am going to call our special board of finance meeting to order. The first agenda on the first item on the agenda is the agenda. Do we have a motion please. Thank you. Thank you, Councilor Barlow. And all in favor please say aye. Aye. Any opposed. And the motion carries unanimously. The next item is a public forum. Are there any members of the public wishing to speak to the board of finance today? Being none, we will close the public forum. And move on to item 3.1 replacement of the hot water system and boiler at Letty. Kim, why don't you give us a brief overview? Sure. So, I will try to be brief here, but please ask questions if you have any. It's a really interesting project. So, back in March, we put out an RFP to start working with an energy performance contractor. And I don't know if you are familiar with this, but in very short term, what that means is that we will be moving forward to get all of our city buildings, either to net zero energy or as close to net zero energy as we can. And what they'll help us do is make the best game plan to arrive there in an efficient way. And dealing with the costs that we can actually afford. So we'll be looking at different ways of doing things. And they've helped us with the remote sump tank in this building, which we talked about last week. And then the next project that we're also moving forward on, which is similar to the sump tank project is replacing the domestic hot water system at Letty arena, and also at the same time, their boiler system. So this project, like the one that we talked about last week is just a very small part of the actual project at Letty, but it's something that was imminent that if we don't get this done. They're not going to have any hot water there this winter, which is problematic for a lot of reasons. So, what we've looked at doing is we've looked at upgrading this system with both an all electric system and a 96% efficient gas natural gas system for a lot of reasons to include timelines and cost. We decided to go forward with the natural gas system. It's a 96% efficient system. It has redundancy. It can have controls added to it. It's included within all of the design and engineering for this project. Not only does it include the new system, but it includes upgrading the piping, all the expansion tanks. It includes filling in the holes of the exterior building where we're letting in cold and hot air. Which most of us know is like the number one thing you should see in a building. Is to upgrade these and have our control system put on them also just like we do in a lot of our other buildings so that we can constantly regulate temperatures of the water and the air, and keep that as energy as efficient as possible. So, what we're doing here today is asking your approval to move this forward to have this done and the materials that we have in the system are available. That we can have it all installed before the winter comes. Great. Thank you. Any questions from the board or someone ready to make a motion. Yes. Yes, I had questions about the funding. It seems like we're taking funding that had been allocated to our project and reallocating it. You're right. I think that happened recently or was that already anticipated during sort of budgeting process. So, it was not necessarily anticipated during the budgeting process so what we had anticipated was you. You put in two new rooftop units at the Miller Center per year, just to keep up with things and make sure that there was, there were no systems going towards the end of life. But we came up with a couple things one is that with our HVAC team the way we have it now. They're very knowledgeable and they've been servicing them very regularly and doing a great job of it. So, we want to use rooftop units at the Miller Center are in great shape compared to a lot of things in the city. So, just going to add in that, you know, as things pop up though you have to look at everything. Right.  So, we decided that because they're working so well, and because we actually rather make a better decision for the city, that we should use that money towards this emergency project so that we could be able to do that. So, we decided that we could actually convert those rooftop units into all electric rooftop units as opposed to staying with natural gases they were. We actually rather make a better decision for the city, but we should use that money towards this emergency project so that we can happen. Okay. My next question, which you also addressed is, when I was on the school board we had a lot of different maintenance and we'd be, you know, trying to triage different projects and when you end up with it. At the end of that or what the school does could be a huge giant deferred maintenance. We have a huge giant deferred maintenance problem so just to know that we have one. Right.  We never had anybody overseeing central facilities at that level and so now that was a decision when you guys approved Kim's position. All out is now to have somebody who's focusing on that we have to each track people when I'm home think it was some point last year got regraded to a higher level to, so we have that expertise to look at the systems and so that in the long run. What we're changing and doing now rain great shape that that means there's still a backlog of work here in the city and those guys are, you know, saying a lot. And I would just add that this is part of why I spend a lot of time with Cindy and Kim is that I'm on the capital committee and so we're not just to be clear as much as I think Cindy and Kim would make the right decision. This is not just like those two saying we don't need this we do need this. All of these decisions are discussed in the capital committee which is, you know, very multi departmental team including Ashley fire safety. City arts and plenty of others. So, there's going to be I think a lot of this kind of horse trading of we were going to do this but now this is broken and so we'll talk those things out with you because obviously, as financial stewards of the city, you have an important right here as well. Thank you to my only my only question but thank you. Sure. Any other questions. I have a couple of things and I think the first one is one thing we get on the time as part of this budget process is to get regular updates grants updates. So the reason we have that from FY 23 is because we started having problems with the hot water domestic system several years ago, and we knew it was something that we had to address so I have that banked away to start working on hot water system. So that's why we saved it for that. And now the second question is specific to the 96% for versus 100% yes, I was just wondering what would be the price difference. Well, that's a great question. So, how you would get to 100% efficient on a natural gas system and absolutely get it on. It would involve working with bgs and buying renewable energy credits to make up that 4% which we can absolutely do. So it's possible. Absolutely. And just to kind of reiterate is that this is just a tiny, tiny part of the project of the building. And by doing it this way, this will fit in with the next upgrades that we do as the whole building to keep it energy efficient. So when we look at it, we're going to look at, should it be all electric should be part electric should be all natural gas. Why would we go to that decision. How is it going to be the best case for the city, and make the best decision that we can based on that information and cost. Yes, we did. And also, you know, what is there for the specific building is not being used by the people across the region. Yes. And I was just wondering also, if there is an opportunity to increase the fees of accessing the facilities in order to. Because this is only more than half a billion dollars. And what's next. Cindy, you might be able to get to that. Yeah, so we just, I mean, we continue to increase the fees and we increase the fees again this upcoming year, but that support in general fun. I mean, there's not that we're not trying to cover the cost, the direct cost of maintaining the building. But there's very little that we're able to do here in the city that is able to generate the additional revenue or capital. Whether or not down the line we should. That's, you know, another. We should and it's a whole other ball of wax. But to say that it is something that the Capital Committee, it keeps coming up in all these meetings. And so it's something on our mind, which is, you know, can we get to a place in the next year or two that when we're saying, here's the project we'd like to do. We've also built in these costs for repair and maintenance down the line. Like, we're not there, but to do more of that building in so that we don't wind up adding to the deficit of work that needs to be done. You know, that's a big one that like, let's say the waterfront, the campground, those those are that's making that revenue that money does not go into a capital that goes into the general fund. And so there's, you know, that's should those should those have been years past enterprise funds so you could put that money back into those places, you know, the campgrounds getting tired green is getting tired. But we, we did and now to do it now would be a big impact on the general fund. It's a challenge. Very glad to hear that you're thinking of it and knowing that people are really starting to shake. Yes, that's still a high school. Yes. Yeah, that's great. But I'm happy to make the motion that's indicated on. You did it. I was thinking I was going to chirp you out. I've only done that a few times. Thank you, counselor Jen, do we have a second. Second. Thank you, President Paul, all those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed. And the motion carries unanimously. Thank you. Thank you. I also would like to point out that the phone number who has just joined is there. So, we are at item 3.2. Chief Murat indicated he was on his way here and he is not here yet. So, if you would like to. Mayor, maybe you could weigh in and let us know if you would like to kick this off. Or if you'd like a brief five minute recess. And to wait for. John to get here. And maybe there we go. Oh, there we go. I'm trying to figure out how to unmute. Sorry about that. I figured it out. Sure. So how did John give you a sense? When are you going to get there? Um, I thought he was going to be here already. So, um, let me just. See what's going on here. I'm happy to just start thinking. Yep. I think that might be wise. All right. So this is a significant milestone in the. Sorry, Mayor. You just got here. So you can stop. It's okay. Wherever you want to achieve this fine. Um, the mayor is joining on the phone and he was just about to start when you got here in the nick of time. I'm going to keep talking for 10 seconds.  And then when you do, you can just give us a brief overview of item 3.2, please. Okay. Okay. Um, which is the cares team. Yes. Wonderful. So I'm settled. Did you want me to jump in or jump in? Okay. No questions yet. Sure. Um, so obviously, you know, this has been a long, uh, process. We wanted to move forward with some working a lot at it. We've had, I think some productive meetings over the past, uh, couple of weeks. We've had a lot of discussions with the hospital and length about sort of how we make this work. Um, and we have a couple of pressure points right now. One is DMH, which, uh, the Vermont department of mental health, uh, which has given us a grant, uh, that's federal money and they need to see it spent. So we need to make some, uh, some yardage as it were and get this ball down the field a bit. Um, we have come to the realization that an EMT or an EMT, it's not the way to go, nor is a paramedic. They have too many protocols in their, uh, uh, in their own protocols. There are too many protocols that prevent them from, uh, deferring, uh, healthcare away from the hospital. And that is a good component of what this, uh, team is going to do. It's also a significant component of why we were awarded the grant from the department of mental health to move, uh, treatment away from the hospital and cease overburdening the emergency department. Uh, as a result, uh, EMTs and paramedics are not the best for that because their basic mode of operation is to get people up to that hospital. And so instead we believe that working with RNs, with registered nurses is going to be the best course of action, particularly home healthcare nurses potentially. Uh, and we're working with the hospital to make that happen. The hospital has agreed to, uh, cost share. Uh, we're working out what that exactly is going to look like. Um, but, uh, with the, the money, the city has allocated with the money that the DM, the DMH has provided via the federal grant. Um, we're confident we can make this work. We need now to put forward the job descriptions for the clinician and for the team's supervisor who is also a clinician. Um, and so those two clinicians and that supervisor clinician will be employees of the city of Burlington. Uh, the, uh, nurses, uh, the medical half of this team. Will in all likelihood be co-employees of the city and of the hospital. Um, again, I probably should have started with this. The, the, the point of the program is to have clinicians co-deploying with medical professionals. Uh, what we've learned, however, is that the medical professionals will, will not be paramedics as initially assumed, but are better suited as RNs or registered nurses. And I don't know, Mr. Mayor, if you want to add anything to that or. Sir, I mean, I just think, uh, this is a pretty significant milestone. Chief was saying in this substantial journey to get this new capacity stood up. We are nearing an agreement with the hospital on the details of how this will work. We don't have that completely. Uh, that is not complete yet, but we think. But it is prudent and helpful to getting this team stood up as quickly as possible for the council to approve the creation of these three positions tonight. It's about, you know, it's a multi month process from the moment that we post these positions, which we can't do until the council creates them. It's, you know, it's, it's. Three months. Generally speaking, before a new position can be filled in those three months, um, we are pretty optimistic. We can nail down the remaining questions, uh, with how, how, how the city and the hospital work together with this new capacity. And we finalize, um, the, uh, remaining budget with issues. I think it's news to this group that, um, we, uh, will get some kind of financial commitment from the hospital. In addition to the state, uh, funding, it appears very likely that details of that are to be nailed down. Um, and I think that all that together puts us in striking distance of, um, you know, resolving any remaining budget questions about how we do this. So all in all, this is step forward. It's good news. I appreciate the, the team led by the chief and Jackie Corvall and Lacey Smith. Um, that has us on the cusp of, uh, of operationalizing this. And I think we'll be back, um, towards the end of the summer, um, with a further update on exactly what to look for in terms of, uh, turning on the on switch with this new team. Great. Great. Thank you, mayor. Um, I'll open it up for questions. Counselor Jeff. Was that a question or a. Yeah. Okay. Right. Yeah. I mean, um, I think from my perspective, the care. According to the crisis assessment response. Right. And from my perspective, we are, we are, we are tackling it. Without any, let's say community involved. Um, It seems also allocated $400,000 street. It seems only these positions are over half a million dollars. I would like to understand how much like ambition, this can team costs. Right. Because this is just a couple of positions here. Well, so, uh, I think that, you know, our our budgeting is, uh, is preliminary. Um, uh, but we have. gone over the pieces, you know, personnel as with any program like this is the bulk of that cost. That personnel is the supervisor on call money for the supervisor, the two clinicians, and then the two registered nurses and the registered nurses we hope to have them shared to some extent with the hospital to be determined. But when you look at the totality of that cost that personnel cost is in the realm of about $650,000 per year. Now, the for five positions five positions and that's with fringe, but that's with benefits and everything so salary and benefits around $650,000 startup costs in year one are going to be greater than in year two, we're going to need technology we're going to need equipment. And we're going to need a vehicle in which they can move. One thing that I have not factored in is that we have space in one North Avenue for this we do we're going to have to incur capital construction costs in reconfiguring parts of the building. And that's coming to us, irrespective of the scene, we have to create, we've carved a corner of what North Avenue out for Cape. And Burlington cares will sit within Cape, but that carving still needs more work to be done, we have to move right now. There's a space that is being used by the CSOs that needs to move over to a different part of the building, so that Cape can actually expand into the CSO space but the CSOs can still have space. So there's interior reconfiguration work that needs to be done that's not built into this budget, but it is going to be something we're going to have to tackle. In order to have these folks once we hire them having a place to sit, but the overall costs, you know, once you add in the startup costs, it's about somewhere in the vicinity of 850 or a little bit more for year one and somewhere in the vicinity of 900 or a little bit more for year year two, but the DMH grant covers almost half of that, not quite. The city has allocated monies in year one and year two. And, you know, so that's, that's basically the cost of 800 plus eight, I'm sorry, 870 or so for year one. And why not this position be house. The fire department doesn't have, fire department has less space than the police department does, has greater issues right now with actually integrating that space than the police department does. We expect for this team to be, you know, gender is going to be, isn't an issue for the police department, it is for the fire department at the moment in places. The physical space is the big issue and then, secondarily, I think the issue is that the call these calls for service come through police dispatch. I mean, I will be supporting this, but I really hope that we had a different approach about the care model from my perspective is just coming from up to down and no involvement from the community, no, you know, no task force, no experts. And from it's important and this is also very respectful. Right. I'm not trying to, but I agree with that can be different understanding, creating this position, having a supervisor who will respond to the queue, and also where to help this to house the care model. So he said, but I'm supporting this position. So if I may, there was quite a bit of community involvement in the earliest stages of this a lot with stakeholders, including members of the city council and including public members of the public who have lived experience with regard to the kinds of things that we expect cares to do. And since then, there, this has been circulated with stakeholders in the city council with stakeholders on the police commission. It's gotten significant input from those entities and even even up until a few days ago, making changes, the chief staff and I, based on input from the police commission. Thank you. Yes. And just wanted to say, I, you know, this, this program, as most of us know, came as the result. It was an incredibly unusual situation. It came as the result of two parents who brought this forward under the kahoots model, and have been patiently working on this with the city for two and a half years. Not only were they intimately involved with the way that this all came about, they actually helped to draft the RFP. So we had two citizens who were helping us with the RFP, which in the years that I've been doing this, I have never seen that happen before. They had a lot of input into that RFP. It did not end up being exactly the program that they had envisioned.  And there are, and they have challenges with the way that it ended up growing out. There were, there were changes that either we did them and got the program going, or we didn't do them and probably waited another two years for it to happen. Because the only response to the RFP was the Howard Center, who was in the midst of its own items that it must take care of to to to move forward as an organization. It was not their highest priority, understandably. So, you know, I, you know, counselor counselor McGee is not here. I know that he has concerns. I have concerns I would prefer that this not be. I would prefer that this be in a community based, like in Cape and personally I feel that Cape should be its own department, the third part of public safety. Now, this is where it needs it must be because this is what we have. And I think it's better for us to have this and move forward with it, then to not have it. So, and I look forward to it being, you know, it's not it's not 24 seven. I'm hopeful that at some point it will be 24 seven. We're getting there. And cahoots did not start just like that either so you know I'm, I do think that it had a lot of community involvement. The only thing that it did not do just in the interest of full disclosure is that the job descriptions were not ready at the last public safety committee meeting, and so it did not go to the public safety committee. However, it spent a lot of time and got a ton of input from the police commission. So, I'm comfortable with that because I, I know that they put in that effort, particularly a couple of the police. I'll stop. But anyway, I'm supportive of this. I think councilor jane joining me. Not yet. Okay, well then I'll make the motion as recommended just for a point of information before you do that, President Paul that on review earlier, I did find some issues with the way the motion was written on, on our civic clerks so it is reflected correctly in the updated documents that were posted earlier today. Okay. So do you want me to, do you want me to move the amended or yes, the amended recommended action as, as, as amended on civic clerk. Thank you. Great. Is there a second to the amended. No, it's not a resolution. The amended motion language. Councilor Barlow any discussion. Then it looks like we're ready for a vote all those in favor please say aye. Any opposed. And the motion carries unanimously. That brings us to adjournment, and I will without objection adjourn us at 534.


Srečen sem zelo, da se przenem fokusonu vsečen in vsečen došli vsečen in počutnih. Vsečen sem izgleda, da se možete vsečen in odpočnega se vsečenja. To je vstupovana mjelj. Zato sem izgleda, da se počutim, da se je zelo, da se je vsečen, da se je vsečen in da se počutim. Zato se prezentem, da se je vsečen in vsečen. Tudi, da se je izgleda, da se je izgleda, da se je vsečen. in z njih. We measure educational achievements by looking at the results that students obtain in the PISA test score. And we do that to see first, if there is any change in the ranking of country, when we switch the focus of the analysis from the average test score to fairness, which is measured in terms of both the level and the degree of fairness. nam znošimo, da ne Here's the difference between the two. Then we wonder if there is any counter that outperform in both these two dimension of fairness And finally by using four ways of the PISA survey we track changes occurred over time in the strength of the association between socioeconomic characteristics and students' performances. But why we decided to focus on education? Well, this choice can be motivated by using both positive or normative arguments. So the relevance of education has been underlying in the first presentation today and yesterday the Brazilian minister told us that great part of the reduction in equality was caused by an increase in the skill endowment. And also the topic on education is not new. in ekonomi ste in past years have started, for example, the persistence across generation in educational achievements or inequality in the distribution of attainments or achievements. But more recently, some scholars have focused more explicitly on inequality in educational opportunities. And among these, some of these scholars also used the PISA test score. For example, De La Vega in Le Cuona used PISA 2009 to measure inequality in educational opportunity in reading. While Gambo and Valdemburg used PISA 2006 and 2009 to look at the changes over time in inequality in educational opportunities in six Latin American countries. And finally, Ferreira and Ginu measure inequality in educational opportunities by using the PISA 2006. And they also provide the rationale for using the variance as the proper index of inequality when the outcome of interest is the PISA test score. And this is mainly due to the standardization procedure, which is carried on by the EOECD to transform the rota score into standardized test score. So, what we add to these findings. First, we consider the last wave of the PISA, relased by the EOECD, referred to PISA 2012. Second, as I said, by considering PISA 2003, 2006, 2009 and 2012, we also look at changes over time in terms of fairness. And finally, we consider, as our measure of fairness, an ordinary pair that allows us to look at both, again, the level and the degree of fairness, which is the difference. Well, the difference is that the first component that is called WEOP focuses just on the worst of students, while the second one looks at the whole sample of students involved in the test. The starting point is the standard one in the equality of opportunity framework. So, basically, we assume a test score production function, where this outcome depends only on two groups of variables. The first one are called circumstances, and the second one are called effort. The main difference, the only difference between the two variables, is that students are considered to be not responsible for the first group of variables. Then this first group is used to divide the population into a number of subgroups, which are called types. And each type is formatted by individuals who share a common set of these characteristics. As regards the efforts on the other side, this is not directly observable. So, Romer firstly proposed in 1998 to measure it by looking at the CDF of the outcome distribution within each type, and then deduce the level of effort, which is exerted by each individual, by the rank that an individual occupy in his own type distribution. So, basically, what does it mean? If we have, let's say, two type, type J and type L, and two individuals are both in the second centile of the distribution of test scores of their type, but the test scores that they obtain are different, then this difference is due to inequality of opportunity, and so is considered unfair. Empirically, what does it mean? For each, once we have divided the population into types, for each type we compute the, and within each count we compute this type-specific CDF. Then, to obtain our first component, if this CDF does not cross, the first component corresponds simply to the average scores of the worst of students. And when they cross, the first component is computed by looking at the area, which is at the left of the left hand envelope of the CDF of each type. For the second component we simply assume a parametric, sorry, a linear approximation of the test score production function. And then our index of inequality is given simply by the ratio between the variance in the conditional distribution and the variance in the unconditional one. As I said, our measure of educational achievements are the PISA test scores. Now, all of us, I think, know that this test is carried on by the UACD every three years, and it involves all the member countries plus a number of partner countries. And this is why we observe a difference in the number of participating countries in the four waves. What does not change is the fact that every year students are tested in three domains, mathematics, science and reading. There is a change in the main domain, which is tested every three years, but the difference is mainly that there are more questions for one specific subject, but the three of them are evaluated every year. And the students who take part to the test are selected through a two-stage sampling procedure. And there are all the students who are enrolled in grade seven or higher and are aged around 15. So the main advantage of this survey is that it contains a lot of information which are comparable across countries on variables related to both the school characteristics and students' characteristics. There are information on school policies and practices, on students' background, their motivation, their learning style, and so on and so forth. But we couldn't exploit the fully potential of this survey, and this is mainly due to the way the two components of our measure are computed. Because when we have more characteristics in our group of circumstances and increase in the number of these types as an opposite effect on the two components, so when the number of circumstances increase, our first component goes down and the second one goes up. So in order to find a kind of compromise between the need of having a sufficient number of observations within each type to compute our first component and the need of having, let me say, a reliable measure of inequality of opportunity, the set of variables that we use as students' circumstances are the student gender, their parental level of education, and the job classification. And we consider three levels of education and distinguish between white color and blue color so that at the end within each country we have 12 types. Well, the first thing that we notice when we look at our results is that there is great variability depending on the subject we consider. So what does it mean that the circumstances we use affect differently the test scores depend on the subject that we are considering. But what doesn't change is the fact that the ranking of country does not really depend on the subject that we are considering. So also considering again that the effect of parental background tends to be higher on cognitive abilities, which are related to the use of language. I'll show you here just the results related to reading and all the other results are in the paper. We see in this graph that there is great variability in our first component. So, for example, the average test score of the less advantaged students ranges between 200, sorry, in the Slovak Republic to around 15 in Shanghai. But when we look at the second component, we have Shanghai, I'm sorry, I'm really sorry. Should be... More or less here in the middle. I can see here, but not there, between Brazil and the Czech Republic, I think. Well, we see that the percentage of variation in the distribution of the score, which is explained by our set of circumstances, ranges between the 5% to the more than 25% in Macau and Bulgaria. And just to confirm that the ranking of countries is not really affected by the domain we consider, we notice that OECD reports similar results for this country in month. Even if equity in that case is measured in a slightly different way. But coming back to our first question, we observe that there is indeed a positive relationship between the average score of the whole population and our degree of fairness. Meaning that an average country which are in the northeast panel of this graph, which are those who perform above the overall average in terms of test scores and below the average in terms of inequality and educational opportunity, the graphs show that there is in an average a positive relationship between the two dimension. Well, when we wonder if there is any country that outperforms in both dimension of fairness, then the answer is negative. In fact, here again we have on the vertical axis the average score of the worst of students. And on the horizontal axis, the strength of the association between parental background and students test score, which are ordered in a decreasing way. And we see that there is no country that dominates, let me say, the other one. So a couple of them, which are Hong Kong and Macau, do quite well compare it to the others. But while the worst of students reach quite high results in Hong Kong, still the degree of inequality of opportunity is higher than in Macau. Then if we look at the geographical pattern, then this is not really clear. I mean, the only thing that we can say that fairness tends to be higher in both components in some Asiatic country, the triangle and the neighborhood in Western European and North American country, which are the sandiam on the empty circle. And in these last two areas, there is also less variability between countries. That on the other side is quite large in the country within the Eastern European area. Finally, the changes over time. Again, in the paper we analyzed changes between 2003 and 2006, 2006 and 2009 and so on and so far. But here I thought I wouldn't have enough time, so I present just the results, the changes that we can observe between the first and the last wave. And what emerged is that on average in the number of countries where the average performance of the worst of students is increased over time is higher than those where there has been a reduction in the impact of circumstances on students' score. And in fact also, we see that there are really few countries where we can observe both an improvement or a worsening in both our dimension of fairness. Now before I conclude, let me just underline two of the main limit of the analysis. The first one is the fact that as I said, the emission of circumstances allow us just to provide an upper bound of the level of fairness and a lower bound of the degree of fairness. So we have to be cautious when we interpret these results. The second limit is due to the fact that the PISA involves only students who are enrolled in education and we have not repeated too many grades because they have to be enrolled at least in grade seven. Now the second one maybe could not be really a problem in the OECD member country where the coverage rate is quite high, while it could be in some of the partner country. So a possible solution would be to the second problem could be to use some ancillary survey or to focus only on the OECD country. Well, as for the first problem, a possibility and probably a future development of this study would be to consider just the second component of our measure that is just the variance explained by circumstances and add an eigen number of circumstances, potentially all those which are useful and available in the survey and maybe looking at the variation that has been occurred over time in the share of the variance explained by each circumstances. So, for example, if being a female could have a positive or negative impact in 2003 then in 2012. Now, by the way, right now this is what we have so we still do not have addressed these two problems, so we discovered in mind what we can conclude from this study is that there is agraterogeneity across countries in terms of both the level and the degree of fairness in education and that the strength of the association between parental background and students score is an average lower in math and science than in reading. And this association, let me say, both the level and the degree of fairness tend to be lower in countries that perform better in terms of average test score. But there are no countries that outperform in both dimension. The geographical patterns shows that the level of fairness tend to be higher and the degree of fairness also tends to be higher than inequality tends to be lower in some Asiatic countries and in North American and Western European countries where there is also less variability. While in Eastern European countries occupy an intermediate position in terms of inequality in educational opportunity. As regards the changes observed over time so that there has been an increase in the first component in the level of fairness between 2003 and 2003 but also an increase, on average, in the degree of unfairness. So this means that in few countries have moved toward a lower degree of inequality of educational opportunities all the while improving the performances of the less advantaged students and most of them with the exception of Indonesia and Mexico or Western European countries. Thank you. Thank you very much.