The following is a presentation of TFNN The Trader's Edge with Steve Rhodes Toll free at 1-877-927-6648 or internationally at<PHONE_NUMBER> The Trader's Edge Now Steve Rhodes Good morning folks. Welcome to the April 4th, April 4th or 5th. Hold on a second here. Stevie should know this. It's the April 4th edition of today's Trader's Edge show. So welcome to it. I'm your guest host, I'm your host Stevie Perseverance Rhodes who absolutely knows that each of us should always be pioneers of our future versus prisoners of our past. Hope everyone out there is having a great day. Let's make sure we have an extraordinary one and the easiest way to do that is to always remember that life is happening for us, not to us. That's right. When you and I can make that one little two by four shift, it means we can find the gift. In every set of circumstance that life is going to toss at us. Now today you and I, we're going to go check on the circumstance of these markets. We'll go figure out what those bulls and bears, what those buyers and sellers are communicating to you and I at just past 11 o'clock in the morning. I do want to know I'm absolutely grateful for your presence here, but even more important than that. And that's this during this next 53 minutes. I'm here to serve you. So feel free to pick up that phone. We'd love to hear from you.<PHONE_NUMBER>. That's the number to call in on. If you can't call in but you've got a question, go ahead and send me an email. Rifle that off to Steve at TFNN.com and inside the subject heading if you'd be kind enough to put radio show question. Of course, if you're inside our Tiger stand, well, then any in every ping will do. So let's go ahead and get this show started on terrific Tuesday. Of course, this is Tiger Financial News Network. I'm Steve Rhodes. Welcome to the show. We got a sea of red out there. That sea of red is all the U.S. indices. Dow is off 169. S&P 17. NASDAQ's down 21. Russell's off 34. Summice 31. Trendy's down 187. You've got gold up 37 bucks. Trade out of 2037. You've got Lightsweed. Crude is up 8 cents. You've got the silver up a buck. That's a 4% move there. Trade out of 2508. Natural gas is basically flat. 30 of Treasury is up. Nearly one full point at 132.28. So let's go figure out what all this means out here. What are we watching for today? Well, the first thing we're watching today is really going to be for the candle formation on the daily timeframe charts. Why is that important? Well, in the case of the ESMini, price has attained its one-to-one price projection. The one-to-one price projection here I'll just draw in the A to B like. We'll just simply move that over to the C point. You'll see that price has hit it. It's missed it by maybe a quarter tick out there. So you've got to confirm. You've got to confirm it. You have an A to B equal CD pattern that has completed the one-to-one move out there. Now, in order for this to give us a sell the D point or Gartley sell pattern, we need to see at days and a bearish reversal candle. We're off to a pretty good start out here. So just depends on day's end. We've got the same issue with regard to the NQ, your upper right hand chart out there. Now there, we don't have the A to B equal CD pattern. Instead, what we have is a roachment dominicator signal that has been triggered. If we get a bearish reversal candle there, that would confirm a roachment dominicator top. Now, both of those ES and the NQ are well above support. Right now, the first level of support for both of them is the oscillator and change line, 40, 55 or so in the ES mini and 13064 for the NQ. The Dow also has achieved the one-to-two A to B equal CD price projection level. It is also waiting for a bearish reversal candle to then confirm that we should see a further move lower. Now that further move lower should take us to about the 32, 798 area. In the case of the Russell 2000, she is just consolidating with inside its profiles. That's between 1723 basically and 1826 out there. So there's just a consolidation. Now, today's price movement is expected, is anticipated. We took a look at this yesterday. Why is it expected and anticipated? The reason is because as we discussed, the overall market has attained an overbought status. When you get to that overbought status, it has to be worked off. There's a number of different ways it can be worked off. We're going to turn to the New York Stock Exchange. We're going to use that advanced decline oscillator. That again is the difference between the 19 and 39 period exponential moving average of the advanced decline line. So that's what that represents. The key areas to be watching with regard to that tool are the plus 150 and minus 150. Those are going to be the threshold areas where you get into overbought or oversold. Yes, something can remain overbought for a long time and things can remain oversold for a period of time out there. But right now you can see we're now back down below the 150 level. So it is working off that condition. Working off that condition. If we take a look at, let's go do take a look at this right now. Let's stay on the same up panel out here. Let's take a look at market breadth. Let's look at market breadth for the S&P 500 first. So you've got the S&P 500 trading out of the S&P 500 trading out of 4132. Got a decent pullback going on. Yeah, when we take a look at the market breadth speed dials out here. This is for the S&P 500. We are bullish right now for the 60, the 240, the daily and the weekly. Remember yesterday at least I believe we had a negative crossover on the weekly. So this quite frankly is setting up just a buy, the dip at some point here. Now it might take a couple days just simply to work off that overbought condition. But right now conditions are very bullish for the S&P 500 and the S&P 500 quite frankly has been the one that's been the struggle out here. Right now on a weekly timeframe you have 120 instruments trading above the top of the weekly profile, 83 below. That is a bullish outcome, especially where we were at yesterday on the daily timeframe. We're 241 above, 54 below. If we take a look at a four hour timeframe, we're 212 above, 129 below. And lastly on the hourly timeframe we are 190 above, 183 below. So there we're getting somewhat close, but still in bullish character. If we take a look at the Nasdaq 100, now the Nasdaq 100, the NQ has been bullish for all of its timeframes and now it's just slightly slipped into the red zone. That's where it's 60 minute time frame. On the 60 minute you've got 31 above, 42 below. And on a four hour timeframe we have 38 above, 39 below. So we're pretty much at a draw right there. But the daily and the weekly are very, very bullish for the N, the X100, the NQ out there. Any news lead to the pop and gold? Yes, the US dollar index is trading below support out there. Peter from Park City and that is certainly putting some energy into Goldilocks. Let alone you have to assume that the arrangement that's going on in New York City isn't adding to the cause of trust with regard to, let's just say, our governments out there. And that always leads to higher price and middle. So that quite frankly might be where we're at these days. And so between all the stuff going on, sending more things over to Taiwan, all this stuff is creating that type of uncertainty where there is a lack of trust in government institutions. And that's what always pushes metals higher. So, or that's certainly one of the things that can do it. But right now I've got the US dollar index that is trading much lower. So with regard to the, so we're in this overbought status where we had been, it's working that condition up. We still have very positive market breadth inside the system. We have price trading above profile levels with regard to the ES, the NQ and the Adal, the Russell 2000 just in the world on its own out there. And we do have that spot ball of tunics that is trading higher, but still well below the 50-day exponential moving average. That's on your left hand bottom panel out there, the 50-day. Right now, trading out at 2109, you've got the spot ball of it, it's trading out at 1953. So give us a call, folks, at<PHONE_NUMBER> or send me an email, Steve at TFNN.com. Please put a radio show question. If you do send me an email, of course, inside our Tiger's Den, well, any and every ping we'll do. We'll be right back. 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Visit TFNN.com and try Mastering Probability 30 days risk-free today. TFNN Educating Investors. Here's a 60-minute time frame chart that we'll put up. Its oscillator and change line is up at the 28-15 level. What we have out here is you can see a TD9 count top. You now have a confirmed roadspin to indicator top. The reason that you do is you've got this key reversal bar. That bar prior to it, the both the low and the high, was exceeded. We had one tick in the opposite direction. So as long as price remains under 28-15 dam, it should either re-target the lows of the morning down at about the 27-33 area, or it could get all the way down into these potential support levels. So on a 60-minute time frame you have potential battles at 27-08, 26-93, 26-78, and 26-75. So those are your battles to the downside, to the extent that you're paying attention to the TQQQ chart and what it is communicating to us out there. So I do hope that that helps you out and thanks much for the request out here. With regard to the TQQQ itself, very similar in what we're taking a look at. Again, you want to get your, you really want to get your signals from the NQ versus take a look at the QQQ series out here. But what this does show us is much like we took a look at the NQ. It is in an extended condition with a price moving higher with less relative energy, but that's not a top. That's not a top. It's only a top when we get that bearish reversal candle out there. So that's what you'd be looking for inside the TQQQ. The weekly chart looks very strong and bullish. In fact, it has a confirmed A to B equals CD to the upside. A confirmed. A to B equals CD to the upside for its weekly timeframe. So TQQQ, again, it looks like we're just getting a little bit of a pullback out here, which we expect because of those overbought conditions, at least at this stage of the game. Let's go move and take a look at the GDX out here. The GDX is confirming, or appears to be confirming, a weekly A to B equals CD to the upside. Now it's only Tuesday. So we can't, oops, I wanted to go back to the black charts. Give me a moment here. Screens. There we go. So here we've got the daily, weekly, and monthly charts here for the GDX. So first, the GDX, if it closes above 33.34 today, so that's the key level. Now on Friday, it'll be a close above 33.34. That will also be the key level. But as we speak on a daily basis, as long as price closed above that, you already have the volume to take out that B point. That B point had volume on January 25th of 21 million shares. We are at 16.4 million shares with slightly less than two hours of trading. This has got the volume. The one-to-one confirmed A to B equals CD would take us up to 38.41. However, notice the C to D leg on this A to B equal CD pattern. It is on the strong side. The retracement was only 57 percent, so below 0.68, not by much. So here on the strong side, this says, should this momentum continue, this will do more than a one-to-one A to B equals CD to the upside, instead would likely target 41.62. Now on a weekly basis, only Tuesday, but the volume on that swing point is 104 million. We're already at nearly 50 million, and we're not even full two days worth of trading out there. But the key will be on Friday, will be where is the close in the GDX. So if you're long the GDX, you most certainly want to see a close above 33.34. Now, even if it doesn't, that doesn't mean that you won't at least be back up there to try to test. But right now, everything is looking pretty good. But watch 33.34. Right now, price is printed out at 33.94 out there. So that's what's going on. We take a look at the GDX. John wants to take a look at the XLF. So let's punch up the XLF on these black background charts. I'll do the same the white background charts here momentarily. And so with regard to the XLF, the XLF has got this gigantic A to B equal CD pattern to the downside out here. And price right now is trading. So let me get rid of that pattern. So we already know that that exists out here. What we want to do is take a look at profiles. What price was able to do was able to get back inside its profile. Now, the bottom of this profile is at 31.85. We're trading right now at 31.88. You want to watch that. If price closes below that level out there, then we're likely going to make a run for the low that took place on March 24. Now, what you don't see on this screen here is that this formed a rogement and indicator bottom. And it did that when the bullish reversal candle, which was this gap to the upside. This is the trading session of March 27 unfolded out there. So you do have inside the financials, you do have a confirmed rogement and indicator bottom. Now, if price closes below, in fact, I'm going to switch the charts here because you'll be able to more clearly see where the support levels are. So let's just flip back over to the white background charts. Give me just a moment. We'll pull those up here. And this will give us the price targets on a daily basis. If price does close below the bottom of that profile, and that would then send us down to the 31.32 level. If price were to close below 31.32, then what we'd be looking at is a move, most certainly, back to that swing low from March the 24th. So what you should know on John C with regard to the XLF is on a daily timeframe, you have a confirmed bottom. And now you have price just pulling back to test support. So you most certainly want to watch that area. And if price closed below that support level, it goes to its next area of support at 31.32. Otherwise, if support here holds, price wants to move higher. Now, the weekly timeframe chart is forming a new profile or has formed a new profile. It is attempting to form a new profile. And 31.06 is a level of support here. So on the 31.32 area, that red offset and change line for its daily timeframe, if price were to close below that, John, what you'd be looking at is 31.06. Resistance, this is a barestructured profile. So what price got up to or close to was a center of that barestructured profile, 32.41. And then at the top of that profile is at 33.08. Now, there is no bottom pattern. Let me just make sure of that on the weekly timeframe. Yeah, there is no bottom pattern and price is still trading inside its swing point. And this is probably the key out here. And that swing point I'm referring to was from October 14. Now, the volume there was 273 million. Last week on its move higher, it was 250 million shares out there. If price can close back above that high, do less than 273 million on a weekly base, that would be a rejection of a swing point with lighter volume. Now, that swing high is 32.19. That's where you need to see a close above. So that's the weekly timeframe for the financial sector for the S&P 500. And inside the monthly timeframe, just a consolidation with inside its profile as well. If we take a look at the Texas two-step set of charts out here, we had two consecutive moves to the upside. Not unusual to now see it pull back out here. But this is key, John. We do have to watch those areas of support. We certainly want to watch volume out here. But right now the XLF is doing what it should do very much like the market to work off that overbought condition. And so you've got the XLF that's just simply participated as well, let alone, you know, we've got all these problems with the banks out there. So I hope that that helps you out. Thank you so very much for the request. And let me just check the iPhone out here, see if there's anybody else that may have sent a request via email. And the answer is no. Oh, man. Nobody likes the, oh, I take that back. We've got one right here. And Joe, Joe writes in and says, what's going on with natural gas today? Is it a buy? So that's a great question. Let's try to answer that question. Well, we'll first populate my larger set of timeframe charts for natural gas. So this will really help you to understand the picture out here, Joe, when these are pulled up. So the first thing to know when the charts are going to populate here, the very upper left hand corner, once that chart, we're going to see that price last month closed below the February low, which was a bullish hammer candle. The chart's not up just yet. It's populating right now. That's a bearish message. So I'm going to leave you with that until we come back from this break. Steve Rhodes with TFN. 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That hammer candle low out there just so you have that, this is the continuous contract I would put up the May contract, but right now that low, let's assume it's at $2.25. If we take a look at the weekly timeframe chart here, Joe, this had a TD9 count bottom. That had a key area of support at $2.26 price closed below that last week. That negated that signal. What you see out here is we still have rogment and indicator signals that are forming. What this requires is a new bullish reversal candle to confirm a bottom. We had a chance yesterday for a hammer candle, that did not come to fruition. We had that same opportunity and chance on March 24th out there, so the week of March 24th that is. So last week, so what I would be waiting for on a weekly basis or a longer term chart, if this is a bottom out here, I'd be waiting for that bullish reversal candle. The reason is you've got that monthly to contend with and that's suggesting lower price. The weekly is saying I don't have a bottom just yet. The daily did form a bottom last Friday. It did that when it formed this bull sash candle. The reason why I say it formed a bottom last Friday, Joe, was because that was a confirmed rogment and indicator pattern out there. You also have a new profile that is formed. So on this new profile, resistance, which really I would typically say is support, or let me just restate it. The bottom of the profile is $2.11 cents, 2.113 to be exact. The center has a 2.19 at the top of 2.346. Price is trading below 2.113 as we speak. And so it's below the bottom of that profile. It is below the red oscillator and change line. So even though we've got a bottom and if price closed below 2.074 today, that is the low of that bull sash candle out there, that'll negate that signal. So your question is it a buy today? If you're a believer in only the daily timeframe chart and you have price basically testing that threshold level, then you most certainly could take a long trade and then close it out at day's end. So for example, Boyle, UNG, if in fact price were to close below at 2.074 level. Not that it can't pop up the following day, but it would have violated the reasons that you would have gotten into the trade out. Now, when we take a look at the intraday charts out here, I'm not seeing a ton of great signals out here to suggest that in fact, as prices point back to the support levels that were there. Yeah, on a 240 minute chart, I see erosement to indicator bottom pattern, but price just been consolidating the lower level of that profile area out here, consolidating the five hour timeframe, doing that same thing out here. So it just hasn't we are in Joe, the most favorable seasonal time period for natural gas here as we can put up this chart right now. As you can see, we've really been in that time period since about February 19th, but we know that in this, if you look at the here's a 32 year chart, Joe, for natural gas, there's really only two months over 32 years where natural gas has a real positive outcome. That's March. Well, we know that didn't come to fruition and then April. Now, maybe just simply ignoring, well, we know that not not maybe, but we know it is ignoring the seasonal patterns out there. So if it's knowing the seasonal patterns, I wouldn't want to use that as a reason to step into a tradeout here instead of using the patterns that show up on our screen. So I hope that that helps you out. If you got any other questions, please feel free to write back and I'll try to get that information for you. So basically to answer your question, is it a buy? Absolutely. It has a buy pattern on the daily timeframe and you've got to make that decision as to how to best handle that potential tradeout there. Next question coming in from HD. So let me get, let me actually close out these charts here. A second. And so just to take up the hog, the resources out here and let's get back to my three panel set of charts out there. We don't have this set up, but we'll go ahead and type in the energy sector, XLE. So let's type that up, XLE. So I do notice on the GDX. Hold on one second here. So we're talking about the GDX that break out on a daily timeframe. Today, I notice it's going to be bar number eight. So we should see a short-term top in the GDX form between today and Thursday out there. It doesn't guarantee a top, but we're going to get a TD9 count. So that would typically lead to at least a short-term top. Now, we want to take a look at XLE. And as we take a look at XLE, this is question reads, hello, Steve, would you look at XLE? Absolutely. Do you think it will fill the gap down to about 83 buckaroonies? So let's get the, let's get the XLE out here. Let's try to understand what it's doing. So in the XLE, what you have priced doing, you had that nice erosement to indicator bottom pattern out here. We had price run all the way up into its TD9 count breakdown level, 86.50. And your question is, I think it'll fill the gap down at 83 bucks. It really depends upon, I would say more likely than not, it depends on what LightSuite crew wants to do. So you've got that TD9, we've got that competing aspect going on, HD. But right now, I would say, okay, so we don't have a topping pattern, right? Well, maybe that's not the case. A topping pattern can just simply getting a pattern out here. And I have lost my signal and get back. That was weird. So it does look like, because that's up at resistance, I would answer your question like this. Yeah, it looks to me like it will get back to at least fill that gap. The gap he's referring to would be down all the way up to all the way down to a level of 80 to 97. So that's the first thing that HD is looking for. If we look at the weekly chart here for the energy sector, we can see that that gap higher yesterday also ran into resistance at its greenhouse that are in change. So we've got two levels of resistance that have held so far for the energy sector. And on the monthly basis, there should be a close above 93.31. And when we see that, and we should see that, boy, that's going to just set off a gigantic move to the upside inside the energy sector out here. So we are up at enough resistance levels where this would suggest that, yes, pulling back to fill that gap. Now let's look at a 30-minute timeframe here for the energy sector. See what we have going on. And in this case here, I don't see much. I'm sure we could draw in A to B equal CD patterns that would be confirmed by these bearish engulfing candles. Okay, perfect. We don't have any kind of a bottoming signal. We have price trading below its green oscillator and change line. It means it's lost its momentum and its next area of support. This is not a 30-minute timeframe. It's down between 82.96 and 83.42 out there. That would get you towards that 80... Well, that would really get you into that 83 figure out there. So the 30-minute chart is saying, yes, got that potential, but I really do think it will all be dependent upon what Lightspeed Crude is doing. So let's go take a look at the charts here for Lightspeed Crude. We've got to populate them. Here's our natural gas charts, but let's go ahead and put those up on our screen. We're still inside the MA contract out here. What we know yesterday took place HD was in a case of Lightspeed Crude. It confirmed a TD9 count top. And so if that high gets taken out, which it hasn't just yet, by the way, the TD9 count breakdown resistance level is on a daily timeframe that we're looking at there, 81.04. So this is really matching up with the energy sector that we just took a look at. In other words, was doing the same thing. I think these charts are still popular. That's why I've got this little delay that's going on. I apologize for that. But here if we pull this chart back, which we're going to try to do, okay, you can see how price jumped right up into that 81.04 level. Now, we are not in the case of Lightspeed Crude. We have traded above yesterday's high. We have not traded below yesterday's low. So I don't have a great signal here to say that that TD9 count top is in fact ready to start rolling over. If we look at a five hour timeframe chart, it was also a TD9 count top that informed on that thrust to the upside. That simply has led to a consolidation with inside its profile, which runs from 78.50 to up to 81.60. With price right now, testing that green oscillator and change lines, the support is healthy. So it's neutral on the five hour timeframe. I'm going to call it neutral on the daily timeframe. The four hour timeframe is in the process of confirming a rogement diminicator top. And this could suggest a pullback to 76.15. So HD, it's also going to be about Lightspeed Crude. So we've got to watch that out there as well. But it does look right right now. It's got a good chance of filling that gap inside the XL lead. We'll be right back. You might think that if you want to be successful at trading in the stock market, you're going to need a crystal ball. After all, it's impossible to predict the future, right? Like any endeavor in life, before you decide it's impossible, get some advice from the experts. You might find that it's not so impossible. After all, for daily market overviews that give you direction on the key indices, selective stocks and commodities, subscribe to the opening call newsletter at TFNN.com. The opening call newsletter is written by Basil Chapman, creator of the trading methodology known as the Chapman Wave. 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If price can close above 152.08 on a monthly timeframe, that is then going to suggest that, yeah, price can easily get up to your 165-ish area. That's that TD9 count top that you'd be looking at on the monthly timeframe out there. That TD9 count top, that actually completed in January of 2022, took a full year for price to pull all the way back to its breakout level of $131.94. It looked like it was going to be curtains in September of 2022, but it was saved the very following month out there. Now you just got that consolidation with price now taken on that resistance level, which has been tested two different times. What you know, John, is that 152.08, and not right to that penny, but based on the closing price is a very significant resistance area. Now, on a weekly timeframe, if we take a look at what Procter & Gamble is doing, it is currently back inside its weekly profile. We can see that Procter & Gamble was below the bottom of a weekly bullish structured profile for several months. Countertrend moves, if it's just a countertrend move, and this is really important, John Z, for you to be paying attention to, countertrend moves would typically end at the center of its bullish structured profile. Well, that's at 150.01. We're at 150.94. It is only Tuesday, so this is a Friday call, but you would love to see on Friday, you would love to see price close above 150.01. Now, the reason for that, John, is typically when you close above the center of a bullish structured profile, the buyers in that group and the group we're talking about exists between 147.62 and 154.80, have the ability to push price up to test that resistance level at 154.80. So watch that level. Again, 150.01 is a key area. What happens if price closes at 150.01 or below? Well, then that's telling us that this could just be a countertrend move, and then our answer to that question would be, no, I don't sense at this stage here, it's getting ready to get up to 165. Now to the daily timeframe. The daily timeframe today is going to form bar number eight of a TD9 count. When bar number eights are successfully completed, which it looks like will take place today, 90% of the time they go on to actually confirm or complete the pattern out there. So that says we should see a TD9 count top on a daily timeframe. Can't get that to hold, can I? A TD9 count top on a daily timeframe between today and Thursday out there. So in the short term, and this is as price is attaining, it's TD9 count breakdown level 152.13 out here. So let's try to summarize this for John. His specific question is, will price get to 165? The answer to that question comes from both the profile resistance on the monthly base at 150 to 08, 150.01 for the weekly timeframe, and realizing that you also have a TD9 count pattern that's going to form between today and Thursday, which would suggest retracement back to 146.84. So I think more likely than not, the answer to your question is that's going to be delayed out here, or at least that's what it appears to be at this moment in time. So thank you so very much for taking the time to write in. Much appreciated. And folks, I would love to hear from you as well. Of course, we're getting toward a blatant show. So now would be the absolute best time to do that. We do have a request here from Tim. And Tim wants to take a look at ticker symbol out here is ALGM. So let's pull up ALGM. I don't know what ALGM is. Does it matter? No, it doesn't matter with my charts. We're agnostic. But this is Allegro Microsystems, Inc. Traded out right now about 46 to 80. We'll see that here as these charts get populated. I still have a little bit of a delay that is going on for whatever reason. But what we have is a Confirm Roadsman Dominicator top that took place yesterday. So Tim's question is Allegro Microsystems looks to be consolidating somewhat. Do you see a level for an entry point for a long position on the daily and weekly timeframes? So yesterday was a key reversal bar where that Roadsman Dominicator signal triggered out there. We also had already a Confirm Roadsman Dominicator top from the high that took place on March 23rd. So he had really two of them. So now what Price is likely to do is pull back to test support. And that support area out here, Tim, is going to be either 46.02 or 45.47. Now, we just went through. I just went through that long dissertation with regard to when you're trading below a bullish structured profile. Now this is trading above a bearish structured profile. So your counter trend moved to the downside for a potential entry on a daily time frame is between the level of 45.47 and 46.02. But if Price were to close below 45.47, and what you probably want to do is look at the volume and benchmark that against March 28th. The volume on March 28th was 1.27 million shares. You'd like to see volume point back with less than that and then hold 45.47. If it closed below that, do you either get back to test this swing point from March 28th or you get all the way back maybe to its breakout level of 43.28. On a weekly basis for ALGM, what do we have out here? We don't have a top. Well, we have a wave seven pattern that is present at this, but that needs a lower high and that can't take place until next month. So we don't have a topping pattern as we speak right now. This could, by week's end, form a roadsman to indicator top. And on monthly chart, it hasn't traded long enough for us to get enough real great data on it. So where are your entry points? Your weekly entry points would be around 44.85. Your daily would be around 45.47. So that's what I'd be looking at if I were you, Tim. I do hope that that helps. Oh, on the 30 minute basis, let's just see what do we have triggered here if anything. What we have on this 30 minute chart is a roadsman to indicator top. And if price were to close below 46.86, that's going to give you an A to B equal CD to the downside. Let's take a look where that one to one price projection might get us to. So we'll draw in that A to B. We'll just simply move that over to the SC point out here and just give us gives ourselves an approximation. Well, that approximation is taken as right back to its breakout level for all intents and purposes. So 46.18 is likely going to be the target. If we see a close below 46.86. So 46.18, where does that get us on the daily time frame chart up there? Gets us in that zone. So then what that says is Tim, watch the 30 minute time frame chart. We don't have that confirmed A to B equal CD just yet, but it's close. And then on here, what you'd be looking for for that potential entry is a confirmed by the D point, which really is a confirmed Gertley by pattern on a 30 minute time frame. So I do hope that helps you out. Thanks much for writing in and have a terrific Tuesday out there. Let's take a look at the next question. Well, the Jimmy was asking, Jimmy inside the Tigers then was asking about the seasonals. So let's do this here. And his question was, and I don't think it was necessarily about necessarily about the natural gas just itself, but just the seasonals in general. It was basically asking the question, I'm paraphrasing here because I don't have that exact thing up here. Jimmy, so my apology, but basically the same based upon market conditions, rising interest rates, quantitative easing that's been ending, just the hullabaloo of everything that's going on, interest rates as rising inflation, just the whole nine yards. Well, let's just take a look at the, let's just pull up the S&P 500 to the dollar. Well, we're going to a breakout here. And I didn't even come close to answering Jimmy's question. Did I? I'm going to get that in before we end this show. Steve Rhodes with TFNN. We'll be right back. You might think that if you want to be successful at trading in the stock market, you're going to need a crystal ball. After all, it's impossible to predict the future, right? Like any endeavor in life, before you decide it's impossible, get some advice from the experts. You might find that it's not so impossible after all for daily market overviews that give you direction on the key indices, selective stocks, and commodities. 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And so, I want to answer Jimmy's question here about seasonal patterns. If we take a look at the seasonal pattern, this is over the last 25 years for the S&P 500. That was projecting a bottom to form on March the 12th. So, do the seasonal patterns work? I think you need to be aware of seasonal patterns. And what you do is you try to tie those in to patterns that you're looking at on your stock charts out here. At this stage of the game, we know we're in the favorable seasonal cycle right now for the S&P 500. And that takes us into May the 2nd out here, where it starts to get in towards that unfavorable seasonal cycle and takes us down into Lowe's into October out here. What we also know inside the S&P 500 and the spy today is we know that if a bearish reversal candle is to form, it will complete a sell the D point pattern. We know that markets are overbought. That condition needs to be worked off. So, if we do get that bearish reversal candle, which is what we have as we speak right now, we should then see it pull back to support. And the support level inside the spy, by the way, is at 40477. And down below that is the green oscillator and change line, which recently changed color at 40141. Typically, when a pattern completes and a bearish reversal candle would complete the pattern today, price will pull back and test that oscillator and change line. So, I would say if we do get that bearish reversal candle, we will likely see the spy move down to 40140. If it holds that level, that number is going to change by the way. So, just the oscillator and change line value, whatever it is at that moment in time. But if that holds, that's really the entry point into a long position for the S&P 500 or the spies out there. So, Jimmy, I hope that answered your question. I hope that answered your question as well, Mr. Bill. And I hope I answered everybody else's question and then confuse anybody. But if I do, all you have to do is write to me at Steve at TFN.com, and I'll be happy to get back to you. So, folks, day two, we've got great programming lined up. Thinkorswim is up next. I'll be back tomorrow on wonderful Wednesday, 11 o'clock sharp. Please have a terrific Tuesday. Be safe out there. And not a bad basketball game last night. If you love UConn, take care, folks.


So, welcome everybody. I'm Cliff Lynch, the director of the Coalition for Networked Information. I'll be introducing this session today. You've reached the final session for the first day of the synchronous briefings for the 2021 spring virtual CNI member meeting, and it's great to have you here with us. Just to remind you that we will be having additional synchronous project briefings during various times for this week. And next week, we will do a couple of days of plenary sessions to close out the meeting. The meeting we're relying more heavily on pre recorded project briefings and I just want to remind you that as part of the meeting opening today we did release quite a number of pre recorded project briefings that are available on demand I think you'll find there's a rich assortment of material in there. So please look through that when you have the opportunity. This session is being recorded and the recording will be publicly available subsequent to the meeting. A couple of mechanical things we have got a chat window and please feel free to use that to make comments introduce yourself etc. There is also a Q&A tool at the bottom of your screen. During the presentation, if questions occur to you, please feel free to put those in the Q&A tool, and we will address all the questions at the end after we've been through the presentations. It's also possible during the Q&A to raise your hand and we can turn on your microphone so that you can ask questions by voice if it's a more involved question and you prefer to do that. And I think that's all the mechanical sorts of things I need to say. We have quite a panel today and Heather Steins who is going to be kind of running the panel will introduce everybody in a moment. I just want to first off thank Heather and all of the panelists for putting this session together it's really interesting and a very timely topic. It's a whole issue of social learning, and how that can contribute to things like close reading has become extremely intriguing topic that's opened up in the last year or two. The last hypothesis meeting that happened in person that I was able to attend there, which I guess was 2019. And has gotten so strange since the pandemic. There were a series of fascinating presentations where we had a number of faculty who taught literary analysis writing and things like that, talking about how class annotation is an incredibly powerful tool for enhancing student learning and engagement and you know I guess I sort of see what we're going to hear about today as perhaps the next logical step at taking that to a much broader scale so I'm really delighted that Heather and her colleagues can join us Heather will introduce all the rest of the folks on the panel. And at this point I'll just say thank you for joining us my thanks again to the panelists and I'll shut up go away and turn it over to Heather. Thanks so much Cliff I'm really excited to be here today this is my first CNI meeting. So thanks to Cliff for inviting us to do the project briefing and to Diane for helping us with the behind the scenes logistics. As was mentioned previously we're using a zoom webinar format so I don't believe you guys can see each other, but the secret is the chat box is open to everyone so if you'd like to introduce yourself. Let me explain a little bit about why this session was attractive to you what your interests are in social learning. That way, you can see what others have, have found of interest here, and no, you know really who's out there in the ether. So, the questions at the end. So, first, we're going to hear from Dan whaley. Dan is the founder and CEO for hypothesis where I used to work. Oh I should say I'm Heather stains and I'm currently a independent consultant I've remiss if I didn't say that. Thanks for my hypothesis. Dan is a coder and entrepreneur. He created the first online travel reservation company on the web called get there in 1995. He wrote much of the software launch the business and guided the long term technical and product vision. Get there went public in 1999 and was sold to saber in 2000 with nearly 600 employees, while processing approximately 50% of travel transacted online. Dan currently serves as a director of sauce labs the leading open source functional testing company and get around a peer to peer car sharing company. He's a shuttle worth fellow. After Dan, we will hear from Hugh McGuire. Hugh McGuire is the CEO. He's a co founder of the of the rebus foundation. He's been building tools and communities to bring books into the open web since about 2005. He's a co editor of Libra box.org, which is free public domain audio books made by volunteers from around the world, and press books, which is an open source book publishing platform should go to the next slide with the names on it. There we go. Built on WordPress, along with Brian O'Leary, Hugh is a co editor of the book called book, a futurist manifesto essays from the leading edge of publishing. I'm sure there's lots of folks to be interested in that. Next up will be Rami Khalir. Rami is an assistant professor of learning design and technology at the University of Colorado Denver School of Education and Human Development. He researches how social annotation facilitates collaborative open and equitable learning during the 2020 2021 academic year. Rami is serving as hypothesis is inaugural scholar in residence and is helping to lead a new research initiative related to social annotation and student learning. He is also the lead author of a forthcoming book called annotation, a volume in the MIT Press essential knowledge series. He is the founder and facilitator of marginal syllabus that I hope some of you are aware of already a research practice partnership that sparks and sustains conversation about educational equity through social annotation. Here and his PhD in curriculum and instruction from the University of Wisconsin at Madison. And finally, rounding out our panel today will be Mark Graham. Mark Graham's created and managed innovative online and products and services since 1984. As director of the way back machine at the Internet archive. Mark is responsible for capturing preserving and helping people discover and use more than one billion new web catchers each week. That's billion with a B. Mark was most recently senior vice president with NBC News where he managed several business units including Garvin garden web and string wire. He was senior vice president of technology with I village and early Internet company that focused on women and community, and he co founded rojo networks one of the first large scale feed aggregators and personalized blog readers. Mark's early training experience with computer mediated communications was acquired when he served in the US Air Force spending more than three years working at the Air Force data services center at the Pentagon. Mark's first nonprofit work includes volunteering with the open educational library, we are commons.org, and he's a board member also of open recovery SF dot org. And with that, I will hand it over to Dan to kick us off. Thanks Heather. Hey everybody. Nice to see you all here. And thanks. Thanks for coming. Give you a little bit of background on on what we're thinking about and then let Remy and Hugh and Mark dive a little bit into kind of how they see the context and and role from of this from their different perspectives in scholarship and publishing and archiving. Also, I wanted to say that this, we're going to be talking about an initiative here. The primary feedback is to, you know, give you a little bit of information about this but most importantly, to solicit your feedback and your input about how you see this what you think, what do you think about it, what maybe we should consider what we might be missing, who else we should be reaching out to and, and how this may relate to to your work in libraries and so forth. So the context of this is that this is this ultimately came from a problem that we were seeing at hypothesis and with other platforms kind of like ourselves. And that we're trying to bring interactivity to the classroom experience and doing that in most of the time, and a LMS authenticated way inside inside platforms and the goal to in order to, you know, keep students engaged make better use of the classroom time, leverage peer learning as where students help each other. And that this bringing this activity to these platforms requires connection to the material. And, you know, in the text that make up that material next slide. And so the problem though is that because we're sitting inside this LMS authenticated experience, most of the time, sometimes things like our hypothesis are used outside the LMS, there are plenty of instructors out there who, you know, prefer not to use the LMS. Which is just fine with us. You can, you know, also use annotation in a way that's that's outside that that framework, but you know at least well over 90% of the folks that are using this are using it kind of within that context and as it becomes more popular. In fact, that percentage will probably increase because the folks that tend to be outside tend to be the early adopters and, you know, whereas the folks that are inside tend to be, you know, a little bit more of the mainstream adopters. But right now are tools like ours can use on texts that are inside the LMS or, you know, or stored as as PDFs, Google Drive, box, etc. or in just on the open web, you know, an HTML web pages, etc. But when it comes to texts that are stored inside external platforms. Then on reading platforms that are apps themselves like vital source and so forth, or inside authenticated experiences where they might be IP range limited or in some way need to be logged into that system to be able to gain access to those texts. Then the third party tool can't and that authenticated classroom experience, you know, inside the LMS can't be brought over that third party tool that third party experience or that that remote context platform. And so the downside for instructors and teachers and so forth is that that experience that they're having over texts, like PDFs that are stored inside canvas, can't be brought over the platforms that are that are external to the system. And so what happens most of the time is that the teachers just simply take that third party content downloaded as PDF and re uploaded into canvas, which is a problem for the couple where number one it's just kind of a poor user experience it's a lot of friction it's an extra step, but also a lot of it's a violation of whatever kind of license requirement that they might have with that third party agreement. Now generally speaking, and this is a widespread practice that's going on already teachers are downloading texts and uploading them into into these systems and I think generally folks either are going to be, you know, fair use or they can look the other way. But as this practice of social learning appear learning becomes more mainstream, and this becomes more of something particularly if, if annotation or these kind of things are required as part of the then and the option to use the, the print or the other text is not an option because the interactive experience over the digital text is required, then having something that is integrated with all the platforms that the text might be on becomes more and more important. So we asked ourselves how, how could we solve for this problem, not just for ourselves but for other third party applications like ourselves. Next slide. Just, you know, kind of from our perspective, the you know the landscape of platforms that are out there kind of falls into these categories there's the LMS itself. The aggregators that goes in the pro quest and so forth. Oh we are materials, the, the, the actual publishers archives like J store and Internet archives and so forth. The digital distributors textbook distributors in particular like vital source and red shelf. The local PDFs that might be stored in a drive or a box instance. The open web, of course, as Brian is suggesting, having annotating content on the open web which is a major use case. And then other kinds of scholarly materials like print prints and journals, self publishing like use folks are using press books to to publish their own materials and then e readers like cobo and Amazon. And most of these represent except for the LMS themselves and for maybe the local PDF, or the website category are materials often which are opaque to the third party tools that like hypothesis that are being used. Next slide. And so what we wondered is, could we bring a coalition of platforms together to work to address the identify what the obstacles are to more seamless integration of content with with interaction. Find ways to eliminate does obstacles, potentially in some in some instances natively integrate great the third party technologies but at a minimum, not to obstruct them by in terms of the way that the content is is is offered or rendered, or, you know, sometimes it's not even selectable with your cursor and there's all kinds of kind of inherent limitations. So today, would that coalition work in the open. In terms of collaborating to solve these things. Next slide. So we have begun to have a wide range of conversations with many of these platforms, Heather's been helping us drive that that experience drive drive those conversations. They've gone, I think fairly well. And the, the main ask that we've, you know, kind of established the context and the landscape here, the main ask that we've had of them is, you know, would you join this, this coalition. If you kind of agree with the vision, would you work to figure out what this would mean in your own platforms work and prioritize the effort to remove some of the obstacles that are, that are there collaborate with others and you know be public about that. So the work of the coalition would be focused on a set of technical recommendations for coalition members or others to to achieve this kind of interoperability narrative produce initial demonstrations of this what it looks like. And then see if the recommendations can be incorporated. So that's necessary into other standards frameworks like LDI and so forth. So that's, that's the basic background. And do I don't know how we want to run this there. We have these basic questions these are the ones I kind of suggested at the beginning, you know, what do you think about this, what should we be thinking about here. I don't see any benefits to this, you know, kind of in your own worlds, what are the issues that you see and who else should we be talking to. We can either. I think it's best if we hold the questions to the end because I think the speakers are all going to, you know, kind of play off each other and you can go ahead and put a question if you have it now into the Q&A, we can all see that. Or you can hang on to the end and raise your hand and you will be unmuted. And then hand over to Hugh. Hello, and I'm still, I have to update that picture I used to find it strange that people with gray hair and their beards showed pictures from many years ago and now I'm doing that just to have an update of this and how many years but anyway I am Hugh, very happy to be here specifically with Hypothesis, which I think has been doing so much cool stuff through the web, a long time, and as well as the Internet archive which has kind of inspired a lot of my journey in the universe thinking about universal access to all human knowledge. Next slide, Heather. So quickly what is press books. We are a open source bookmaking platform that's how we started with the idea that press books could help different models of publishing emerge. And we've been adopted largely in the EDU universe we work with about 150 educational institutions around North America mainly. And this is used to create, adapt and share educational material, largely OER so open education resources. We have a new thing that I'll talk about a little bit here in the context of social learning which is the directory which allows you to search and use a lot of these books that are public within the press books ecosystem. And what we are mainly known for is our offering an editing platform that allows you to offer adapt content. This is full toolbox of features and one of those parts of that full toolbox is native integration with Hypothesis out of the box. Next slide. So a little bit about the directory, it's a new thing we've just rolled out and I thought in the context of social education it was important to take not just is that annotation layer but the idea of what do we do with text. And the directory, press books have been around for a while but the directory is the first time where we've made it easy to surface and find text that have been created on the press book platform that if you've got access to practice books you can pull into your application if they're openly licensed and make adaptations yourself. And this is trying to solve this question of how do we find good OER from other institutions, what are some good quality OER, how do we extend the reach of great stuff and how can we get started with existing OER to build upon. Next slide. I think there's this growing community of OER practitioners. And I think again it's interesting to think about OER in the context of being a great tool to start building these ideas on where it's a lot easier to work with content that's in the open and educational content that's in the open for the challenges that Dan outlined at the beginning. And we work with hypothesis but for instance this question we have our own LTI integration tool in VLMS, but it doesn't play with hypothesis. How do you say that hypothesis is LTI integration so how do we who are operating in this space were probably a good starting place to start building some of these tools. But how do we collaborate not just on on content but how do we start thinking about the infrastructure for this content to flow properly and these kind of interactions to flow properly. Next slide. Yeah, and I think what's interesting about this new directory is that it's this always updated index of good quality OER textbooks built on an open source platform where we can start thinking about how to, you know, as it becomes exposed to more places how do we think about items as really social objects that are part of the web that can be built on and used in different ways. And again, what's that infrastructure layer that higher ed needs to be thinking about beyond just the closed platforms that we know are there and how we build on this infrastructure. Next slide please, Heather. Yeah, for us this directory was an easy way to help get more of this content out there so that it's more exposed makes it easier for people to find the stuff that they might want to be adapting. And this brings up issues about metadata about making sure that the stuff people is producing are producing is findable. And I think back to when we're thinking about metadata conversations I had with John Udall, many probably multiple years ago but talking about if we have multiple versions of the same text living in the web, or slightly adapted versions, and you have annotation layer from hypothesis on one of those texts, how is it reflected across to another version of that text somewhere else. Hard problem, super interesting and excited about a universe that's evolving that wants to solve that problem more. Next slide please, Heather. Yeah, and I think again just going back to broadening the idea of what we mean by social education for us. OER is interesting with because you can build on text as they are so there's a social part which is the annotation layer but there's also the modification and the changing existing text which is a big part of why people like press books directory making that easier, but that starts introducing again a complicated question about how you're, if you want to be annotating and seeing this in in across the web for different versions of the same text what does that look like. And next slide. I'm going back to the directory again. So we index all these press book networks that are sort of independent publishing entities at the different higher institutions. We're just now indexing all those together. And then pulling all the metadata that's collected into one single place and you can search and sort using a variety of faceted searches. And next slide, Heather. There are some of the examples and there's a link if you want to play around with the directory and see what's there. We could do a quick check to see how many of them have hypothesis enabled. And we're still in early days so this is a not quite a first cut, but we are evolving this platform and it's exciting to see. So that's the first time to have a clear review on what's being produced and how much activity there is that next slide. And that's it. So, thank you all. Thanks you and we will be adding this presentation to sketch and also as soon as I'm not screen sharing, I will make sure that a link of it gets put into the chat. And we will hear from Rami. Well, again, it's a pleasure to connect with everyone. Thank you so much for joining our session. As is mentioned in our introductions. My name is Rami clear and this year I'm serving as a scholar and residents at hypothesis and so with my commentary today. I want to help define social learning and really position social annotation as a use case, through which we can understand the various qualities of social learning and make an argument for why this matters for educators and for students. And so we'll use of course hypothesis as an example and I've put together a pretty simple slide here but I want to unpack it in detail, which is that social annotation of course builds upon annotation as an everyday literacy practice. And so we see across disciplines and certainly across institutional types, as well as grade levels, the ways in which students with their teachers, with a variety of course content, engage with these texts as discursive texts for social learning. And so the question then becomes what does that look like and what does that look like in practice, what does the research show us about this type of learning. When Dan was introducing his comments a few moments ago, he actually mentioned some friction that both educators and students may encounter particularly as learners perhaps move into something like a learning management system. And some of the even kind of like pedagogical work around that educators need to creatively employ to make perhaps their content more available to students. And of course, reducing that kind of friction and creating a kind of more seamless and interoperable experience is of course very important for educators and for students. And again, looking at the social annotation literature, we can see why creating these types of seamless social learning experiences matter. Another one because disciplinary engagement and really deep disciplinary engagement is possible through social annotation, and this can happen in a variety of ways, one with more experts sharing their knowledge, their terminology their key concepts with groups of learners, and a lot has been gleaned from again the research literature about the ways in which learners benefit from reading expert annotation. And again, we see that both in the natural sciences as well as in the humanities and the social sciences. But a lot of disciplinary engagement also arises through peer to peer learning and again the social aspects of students raising questions with their peers, having those questions answered and moving into more again type of deep reading and interpretive practices that even Clifford mentioned at the beginning of his introduction today. We also know that as students engage with texts through annotation and engagements types of social participatory practices, they construct a new knowledge. And there's some very exciting research, including some that hypothesis is helping to lead right now. So looking at the ways in which knowledge construction activities, including elaboration interpretation disagreement conflict, as well as consensus building are all possible through this type again of learning experience, and again, reducing students friction around their engagement with peers and texts and their educators is going to again more beneficially contribute to the ways in which knowledge is constructed in these types of classroom experiences. So annotation is of course a form of collaborative dialogue and it's important to understand that there is of course, someone might call a genre of online learning associated with things like the discussion form, and then ways in which the so called dreaded through the discussion is a kind of staple particularly in higher education, and notably social annotation is working really to kind of break free from that model and showcase a different way in which digital discourse and collaborative occurs in context and again turning texts into discursive context or multiple people can take more nuanced views of sharing their knowledge and expertise with one another, and that leads to a fourth and important affordance of social annotation which is of course shared meaning making. And of course we want particularly in educational contexts, learners to make meaning of what they are reading again across disciplines and social annotation is a key way to enable that type of shared meaning making informal educational contexts. I want to keep my comments brief today, only because I hope that this elicits conversation with this entire panel, as well as everyone attending the webinar about the ways in which we can understand social annotation as a venue for exploring the full potential of social learning. The last thing I'll just mention very briefly is at the bottom of this slide there is a link to a public curated bibliography of scholarship specific to social annotation and more particular the technology of hypothesis which is the most researched social annotation technology ever created and I think that that speaks volumes to both the technical capabilities of the hypothesis tool, as well as of course the leadership, you know, by the organization as down with speaking to a few months ago, really leading the charge to create the kinds of open and interoperable learning technologies that create these types of virtual learning experiences. Thanks so much Rami and I believe this may be our last slide. Yes, so I will happily get out of the present mode. One second. And hand it over to Mark and then after Mark is finished we'll open the floor for discussion. Take it away Mark. Thank you very much and I'm just going to drop. There we go. Some URLs into the to the chat over there so I, first of all, I'm happy to share that the Internet Archive is the latest member, I think maybe of this coalition for social learning engagement as of the end of last week. And, and also I think I was the last person at this panel so I don't have any slides but a few comments I'm going to keep them brief. First of all, the Internet Archive has been involved for a long time in helping to open up access to learning materials in general. We do this in a variety of ways we have a project called turn all references blue. The goal basically is to acknowledge that everything that any human has ever been ever created in written or radio audio format. It should be accessible to people, which means that it should be digitized and available via the net. And any references to those materials that may exist in other formats say Wikipedia article, or web page or a book should have within that a link to the actual source. So the turn all references blue project has been working with Wikipedia sites now we have software running on more than 70 language Wikipedia sites to add links to references to books. We've added about 800,000 links to books in the last few months to to web sites web pages that have gone bad and returned to 404 we've fixed fixed about 14 million of them. And now with the with the launch last week of scholar dot archive that word, which is a platform for open publications academic publications, we're going to be accelerating our effort to add links to academic papers as well. The idea of turn all references blue and implies that the references self is accessible, which maybe is obvious but in many cases it isn't I see Mark Miller asked the question about, you know, making the resources of libraries available. Generally speaking in the first step there is that the materials within the libraries need to be accessible they need to be an additional format. At that end we have a project called control digital lending to extend the role of the library the digital age, the basic concept is that if that if a library owns a physical copy of a book that it can lend out digital versions of that book one at a time equal to the number of paper copies that the library owns with control digital lending. I have a link in in the chat here. Actually it's a recent link for a myth busting session that we did about control digital lending, because of some of you probably know the Internet archives being sued by the major publishers about this now. I also just want to know I'm, I'm in the offices right now of ISK me isk at me.org and they run OER Commons. OER Commons is a leading platform for directory for open educational resources. And I'm an advisor to that project. The, it has currently cataloged hundreds of thousands of education resources is more than 10 years old. And as a leading player in the space of making educational resources available in a variety of different formats. And now the end that the I also put a link up to work we did around the Mueller report that's probably the closest that we've did around annotation in full disclosure the Internet archive is not yet adopted an annotation platform in the classic sense like apophysis we do. However, support many annotation activities. One example was acknowledging when the Mueller report first came out, there were more than 2000 footnotes in it, but only about 14 of them were links. And so we, we, we had a project to identify the resources that were referenced in the Mueller report through these footnotes. In some cases, get the version of them that wasn't online make it available online, and then work with Digital Public Library of America to produce an updated EPUB version of the Mueller report with more than 700 active web links in it. So we take a very holistic view to information access in general and to, to annotation in the sense that things that should be linked are linked and things that should be accessible arm and accessible through those links. Thank you. Thanks so much, Mark and remember if you would like to ask your question. You can either put it in the q amp a or you can raise your hand and someone will unmute you. I've got a couple of questions. I always do. Dan I know one of the things that you've mentioned as as really being key to this discussion that you'd like the coalition to undertake are the role of interoperability and standards could you tell us just a little bit more about that side of this. I think the, you know, the key, the key problem that we have now is that the kind of experience that a teacher or student might have in one place is not equivalent to the experience that they can have in the other place. Just at the most basic level there might be one kind of annotation experience here and then the platform has its own, but they can't take notes in both and have them searchable or have the same discussion, you know, in the in the class in one place as they can in the other. So the first thing that we're trying to do is see, you know, what would it take to create a framework for that kind of interoperability. But the, the underlying technology that might be brought might be based on standards. You know with open API is and so forth so that the high quality kinds of experiences and that the data itself is not locked away and proprietary format. Thank you for that. I want to ask Rami now you were using social annotation long before many people were forced off campus and into the virtual classroom exclusively. I would imagine it might have been a little bit more straightforward at least in one aspect for attempt to move those discussions entirely online. Can you talk a little bit about the strategies that you found effective for social learning, so that you know others might kind of learn a little bit from that. Absolutely. And apologies for the little one maybe screaming in the background right now as we all work from home, most of us at least. You know, I think that we can look at this from the perspective of both, you know, a teacher and also a student, you know, a lot of educators now are talking about two topics when it comes to social annotation. One is how educators seed SEED, their expertise into texts, identifying again key terminology, the ways in which researchers describe their methods, asking questions of students to then elicit their responses and there's been a lot of discussion recently, some anecdotal sun now appearing in the scholarly record about the ways in which instructors are making these kind of moves within the text again as the discursive context. And I think also that a lot of educators are currently, you know, experimenting with particularly given the shift to fully online learning, again, pretty much across higher education during the pandemic has been what we may call orchestration to use the kind of technical learning sciences jargon. How do social annotation activities sequence with a line to and then perhaps complement other kinds of classroom activities is social annotation a pre reading activity that then precedes a lecture with a faculty member is social annotation done to review course materials is it done as a peer review activity among students and how do these social annotation activities that dovetail to and also extend other kinds of course specific activities and there's a lot to be learned there again that kind of richens and kind of deepens the kind of overall peer to peer learning experiences within either on the ground, or certainly online classrooms. And then you know how they're, you know, briefly to the point then of what do students do and how do they approach this, you know, I'm increasingly speaking with educators who mentioned the importance of students having a lot of agency and ownership in the margins, and that these kind of marginal discursive spaces are an important place for students to make their thinking visible, share rough draft thinking, illicit feedback from their peers to clarify misconceptions, and that there's an importance to opening up these margins as a kind of space for exploratory again kind of first draft thinking through often difficult course content and so having the kinds of interoperable experiences again the Dan others have spoken to now to make that just easier for students from a technical perspective will be so important as they then move across multiple classes, multiple years of their scholarly journey, and then can take those notes and can kind of collect take that record of collective intelligence with them over time. Thanks so much and Dan has included in the chat again, some of the questions that he had on his slide so we'd love to get your reaction from the audience whether that is as a written reaction or whether you'd like to actually speak with us to some of those questions in the chat box. Anybody want to take a crack at it. I just want to put a plug in for the value of open standards and the importance of it vis vis of a long term sustainability. I think what we all recognize that individual companies and projects and priorities. And sometimes go away completely. And there's been many examples of that actually even in the annotation world we remember that YouTube had a very robust annotation system, which they took took down the eliminated it. And there's many other examples that I could list here but but the point is if if annotation systems and these you know metadata data data about about data is accessible, both in a standard format as well as through some sort of an open space access method, then the probability that those systems are going to be replicated, they're going to be widely adopted and be archived and archives in a way that they can then be we use a different context is increased. And so, certainly, it makes my job here at the Internet archive easier to the degree that these materials are available in open standards. And, and that's something that it's almost any system that we would adopt and use within the Internet archive. It would be a requirement for us actually that that baby standards base.  And even though we've never formally have not yet formally adopted the hypothesis platform and certainly influenced some of our priorities and thinking at the Internet archive to have the benefit of the sharing within that community, which itself is an expression of openness, I think, the spirit in which those conferences have been held over the years. Yeah, I think that I annotate is coming up in June. Save the date has has gone out. I have a question for Hugh. Hugh has his camera off so I'm hoping that he's actually still there. There he is. Yeah, so, so I'm really interested in open, open educational resources and given that marks sitting in the, in the home of, you know, our Commons. I think it's, it's even more valuable. And, and just to highlight the point that social learning is not just students social learning is across instructors who work in the same discipline or who work in an interdisciplinary manner and having different versions of OER texts connect to each other and be discoverable and shareable. Can you talk a bit about how that contributes to social learning amongst the, the faculty set. I think I can talk about as well from my context, so I'm the CEO at press books also executive director at the readers foundation which does a lot of work helping groups of OER authors work together. So, I think for me what's interesting again is just zooming out there is the annotation layer in the way that that encourages socialness but what we've seen in press books land and rebus land is that power of people working together from different places on creating content or adapting it and pulling apart and building it in new kinds of ways and I see that to me is such an exciting part of the future of educational content is the way we can start thinking about content is something that is not just a final monolith and output but something that can be chewed up and rearranged and moved around and I think that annotation is a big part of that kind of that social aspect but the idea that what we see a lot of is people taking a piece of content from the press books ecosystem and then rebuilding it adding a new set of we also integrate in addition with a hypothesis with H5P which allows people to take something and build in new interactive content quizzes, etc. And I just think that that I'm going to go back to what Mark said about the open standards is that very exciting I mean it's we've, I think most of us have been in this for a long time. Long thinking about ecosystem for information where it just is more fluid and flowable. But what's really exciting is that notion or what's really important is that open standards make that possible in a way and platforms that that think about information is not something that is captured just in one place in one system but can flow out and be built upon and and and changed in different ways and so that was a very rambly answer but I think the idea that open standards should allow us to think about how we can take pieces of information and build different things with them to me is just, I mean it's driven a lot of the work that I've done and it's exciting to see where hypothesis going, but I like getting into the actual bricks of the content itself and how can that be pulled apart and rebuild and that's an inherently social activity because you're taking something from somewhere else to rebuild it. I couldn't agree with you more Hugh and you know that's really the space that's been the most interesting to me in recent years and if you're, you know, here today on the session. There's definitely ways that you could participate in you live increasingly in a distributed information environment and I firmly believe that the, you know, the future involves not only open open standards but open knowledge graphs where publishers and librarians and researchers will be able to curate resources and annotate them with assertions so for it's going to be so important for trust and transparency and provenance as we move into really a more complex system. Dan if folks are interested in joining the coalition what's the best way for them to reach out. They should ping either myself or you and just just drop an email and say hey and we'd love to tell you more about it and and this is not only for for publishers but also for institutions who are interested in how to ensure these kind of experiences across the content that they're licensing and connecting to on behalf of their students and faculty. And what if you're not super technical is there a role for you to play. I mean, the old goal of this is to make, you know, great experiences for people, regardless whether they're technical or not so. For sure, I think the what we will be care most about is hearing what people need. And, you know, that it's not not about whether they have a technical perspective or not. Fantastic well I want to thank our speakers collectively I was amazing tour through the world of social learning and all of the places that are touched by that. And we'll hand back over to Diane to close us off. I guess we're going to be able to stick around and continue to chat but to close off the recorded version of the session. Okay, thank you thanks Heather. Thanks to all of our panelists that was really interesting, fascinating tour as Heather said, I just dropped Dan's email in the chat. And it looks like other folks are sharing their emails as well so please reach out if you're interested in getting more information about this project or joining the coalition. Let's see, let's see Heather I see your email address but I think, did you mean to chat that out. Now I'm going to chat it out everyone. Okay, cool. Thanks. All right, so yeah, I think we're going to go ahead and close down the recording of this session again big thanks to our panelists and thank you so much to our attendees. If you'd like to hang around and have a chat with the panelists. Please feel free to to hang in there with us after we turn off the recording. Raise your hand we can unmute you and you can approach the podium and ask your questions or make your comments and thanks so much for spending time with us here today I hope to see you back at CNI in the weeks to come take care. Thank you.


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