Hello, this is Debbie Daschinger. Welcome to Dear to Dream. This show won the COV Award for Best Radio Podcast Show. WELP Magazine listed it as one of the top 20 best podcasts to listen to this year. It's high-ranking self-improvement podcast on Apple Podcasts and nominated for two people's choice podcast awards and a Webby Award. Today's show is going to feature Kirby Seed. Kirby has traveled the world, gathering, collecting crystals and artifacts. Kirby developed the light labyrinth and holotope in collaboration with artists from the San Francisco Exploratorium and engineers from Apple. We'll be talking about all of that and way more a little bit later. This show is sponsored by Dr. Dane Heer and Access Consciousness. They do beautiful energy work out into the world and you can join them from anywhere, including online. Go to drdaneheer.com and accessconsciousness.com. I'm Debbie Daschinger and I'm a media visibility expert and specifically my clients are spiritual messengers. I help you write your book and take it from the idea of your book to the published version of your book. I've also got a company that guarantees your book will become an international bestseller and I do all the heavy lifting for the author. And finally, I teach you how to be interviewed on radio and podcasts and get massive results and visibility. For those of you who are very interested in this, go to my website and sign up.  Go to Debbie Daschinger.com slash gift and you will find out about the webinar as soon as it rolls out. That's D-E-B-B-I-D-A-C-H-I-N-G-E-R.com slash gift. So yes, my guest today is Kirby Seed, the guardian of Goliath, the crystal skull. Kirby is dedicated to building relationships between the crystal mineral kingdom and the evolution of human consciousness. For over 30 years, Kirby has traveled the world gathering crystals and artifacts. He leads crystal workshops and designs tools for healing and shamanic practices. He is also the director of ancient technologies, a business dedicated to the advancement of resonant light, combining natural quartz crystals with colored light to create profound transcendent states of awareness. He is a BA in psychology and a master's certification in intuition medicine. And you can learn more at seedcrystals.com that spelled S-E-I-D crystals.com. And with that, I welcome the amazing Kirby to dare to dream. It's so great to have you. Thank you, Debbie. Good to be here. Thanks. Yeah, I'll get into how we met because I think it's very kismet that we're together right now and that you're going to deliver what you're going to deliver today, but suffice it to say so the audience knows before we share a little later that it was your brilliance that arrested me that we had this call because I was in search of something. It wasn't your usual crystal hall. I found somebody on the other end like this is your genius. There is no doubt you were born to do this. So I want to start with the word crystal. Okay. And everybody in the audience, they get it, right? What a crystal is, most of them have them wear them, etc. Use them for meditation. So crystal, it's kind of interesting word because it's derived from the ancient Greek. And it means ice. And it also means rock crystal. Right. The word crusoses icy cold frost. Yes. And with that in mind, the inception of that amazing word. Where did the idea of using crystals to heal and transform begin. Well, I think the ancients discovered rocks, minerals, fossils and crystals as you know they always regarded the earth as sacred. Life giving. And these are rarefied forms of the earth. And they found that there was a magic to them. It was not really understood but they created all types of rituals around crystals and minerals, and they found that they had properties that would heal that would bring knowledge that they were quartz crystals One of their main attributes is they hold information and energy and the ancients found that if they meditated with these crystals, they would have impressions of the earth of geology of ants their own ancestry, they would have visions of the future. They would go into these quartz crystals and psychically and attune to their ancestral realms. They were there. These are the memory chips of the earth and of our planet. And the ancients knew how to, they discovered how to tap into them through plant medicines as well. And that was, you know, one avenue. And, and something happened this synergy between crystals and humans, and we have been companions for the, since the beginning of time helping each other. I love that. That's, I mean, that's beautiful. That's like talking about the evolution of wolves and how they got domesticated in ancient times. And now they are best friends. So they say, our dogs, I've got three of them here. And you're talking about crystals in the same way. And I'm amazed when you talk about the fact that the ancients would sit down and have this intimacy this download about Pachamama about the earth about their lineage. And, and were they doing this sober, or because you did mention plant medicine, or did they have to imbibe something to get there. They, I believe they discovered it just naturally through their normal consciousness and through everyday activities. They were attracted to different colors of different minerals and they created paints. The colors, the colors had different feeling states to it. So red would mean something to them or blue would mean something to them. And they would use these as a creative process. And naturally, when they were doing teacher plants. They, they would be around crystals and the crystals would, it would then open up a communication to with the crystal kingdom to the, the person doing the shamanic journey, and then all kinds of possibilities would open up. Okay, so that's awesome. Because I know I'll be drinking ayahuasca for sure before the end of the year, and I will definitely take some crystals I've always seen people who had them in their space during the ceremony but I would enter it in a whole different way after hearing what you're sharing to open up to the possibility for that for the crystal to also communicate with me. When you're doing the sacred ceremony with the teacher plants. Yes, bring your favorite crystals with you bring a lot of crystals with you you never know which one is going to stand up and go Oh Debbie it's time for us to work right now and you will know.   They'll help you in whatever you're doing on your shamanic journey. Take your favorite crystals and see which ones. What'll happen is your, you know, you have crystals and what'll, what'll begin to reveal itself or some of them. Someone will be your journey crystals, some of them will be your protector crystals will be linked to your higher self crystal if you want to talk with your higher self, or a particular lineage. So, different crystals will reveal their different functions to you, as you work with them more and more. Yes. And folks I just want to tell you who are listening. You probably enjoy this enjoy the audio, but you will also want to go to YouTube comm slash Debbie dashing or Spotify, where the video is, because both Kirby and I will be holding things up from time to time and they'll be exquisite but also the visual is a big part of this so I want to show people this because this is a work of art. I got it from you, and I had a love affair immediately so first of all, I'm in doctor, and I'm not promoting.  I was really lost about that I knew I had friends who are those things or I interview people on my show who are those things but I didn't feel I was at all, and it took years for this to unfold. And the shaman thing is big I think it's old ancient for me so I did sign up with Dr view though, and I am in the six month program we've got only six weeks to go wow, because it's beautiful. And one of the first things they said in the list of all the things we had to get was a vocal crystal, and they made it really clear the importance, you know, don't just get one like don't go on.  And you spent easily 45 minutes with me on the phone once I decided to buy. And I couldn't believe the personal in depth beautiful questions you asked me that you said we're going to go into this crystal. And so I'd like to ask you a little bit about that and also just so people know because I was kind of funny as like I have really tiny hands and I do have really tiny hands and they wear big rings but I'm tiny hands. And I was so concerned to have something big, and you never even met me and how you did this is beyond me, but look at this. How perfect is this gorgeous like perfect in my hand. And 13 sided. This is natural. So, talk about this and why you asked the questions you did in order to create this and how this is my crystal or anybody who comes to you there crystal. Okay. Well, first of all, it's called a Vogel crystal after Marcel Vogel Marcel was a scientist with IBM healer teacher metaphysician. He was a very Renaissance man. He had patents on the first liquid crystal display screens. His last patent before he passed away was he fasted in courts, put them in tubes, and passed wine through the tubes, and it aged the wine much faster and much smoother than some wineries up in Northern California that still use his technology. So, you know, his claim to fame with regard to what we're doing is he discovered the correct angles to cut quartz to maximize the piezoelectric potential or the energy that is generated from the crystal. For example, here's a natural quartz crystal, and it's all Vogel crystals are cut along the c axis or the direction of growth so that's very important that it's not cut this way or this way or angled, but it maximizes the, the energetic growth pattern of the crystal. And so they're all cut like that and they're very specific degrees 52 degrees give or take, maybe a half degree at the base. It's the, the, the angle of the great pyramids are at. And there's some something very synergistic and magical about, you know, that particular angle, the tip. There's a lot more flexibility in terms of the different angles to cut depending if you're doing something more like psychic surgery very fine, work, high detailed work or more broad, bigger, energetic movement, this kind of thing so that the end tip may vary in terms of its angle, but it's the Rolls Royce of cutting crystals, and it's taking the natural piezoelectric characteristics of the of the quartz and maximizing it in a form that that gives that gives the best expression to that. Now one of the attributes of quartz as I mentioned before is it stores information and energy. It's just holding the courts it will begin recording its resonance with you it'll begin blending itself with you and you it. And so what we do when we cut a vocal crystal for somebody, particularly a natural crystal. We do laboratory grown crystals to but because it's hard to find natural crystal that's flawless and it gets expensive. So not everyone can get one. But we do have natural crystal as well. And so what we do is we do an information gathering process from the person we're cutting the crystal for their birthday their birthplace their astrological sign their lineage if they have if they work with different different unseen friends. Maybe it's their ancestors maybe it's a relative that's passive they still work with. Maybe it's an ET or some someone from the future. So we gather this information. We also gather their intentions how do you want to use this crystal for the four ones they have a very specific process of extraction which is very similar to an extra system where you're extracting energy from a person that basically isn't there it's maladaptive energy and it's, it's can be anything from very traumatic to other entities that that leech on to you to just every day stuff that gunk from our, you know, commercial society that gets stuck to you, and you know, clean that out by by having the crystal, putting that stuff in the crystal, and then releasing it.  And that takes a lot of wear and tear on our bodies to do that. So the crystal is a very elegant way of, of initiating that process. And it's no wear and tear on your body the crystal loves working with us. And the next thing is is is crystal consciousness and human consciousness is more partners were co creators on this planet without crystals. We wouldn't have our, our industrial age we wouldn't have our information age. And they're definitely partners in the next wave of the age of consciousness. So, as we, as we begin to allow that relationship to happen more than just a technological advancement. It's very true. It's very true because without rose quartz, there wouldn't be radio, which is where I started originally right and radio waves came through rose quartz, etc. So, yeah, this is amazing and when you talk about that. So I've done these extractions you're referring to. And we described it as a maladaptive energy. And when it's removed it gets taken into the crystal. And we put it back in its pouch until and, you know, it's a good thing to do. Pretty much after the session with the client, but this gets cleaned.  And so I want to talk to you about cleaning it and I want to also talk to you about pointing, because we're taught to be very careful not to point this at us or the client once something has come inside. Can you address that? And like now, was it okay if I do it? And what is the, they've taught us how to clean. I want to be clear, but I'd really like to hear your version. Okay, it's very important to clean and clear crystals when you first receive them. I do something called the welcoming ceremony. So I'm holding the crystal. I'm touching it. I'm talking to it. Crystals respond to vibration. They respond to touch. They respond to intention and thought, subtle and gross ways of just connecting with the crystal. So it's building a relationship. It's building a conduit between you and the crystal. And then you want to clear and clean the crystal. Now, crystal basically responds to our intention. So clearing a crystal, you create a ritual. Rituals are just basically a way of focusing our minds, taking all the chatter away and being able to focus on an intent and a thought. And in this case, the intent is to clear the crystal. So I tell people when they say, how do you clear a crystal? Well, there are infinite ways to clear a crystal, but your main ingredient is your intention to do so. I would go into meditation. Now, the four wins and other people have very specific protocols on how to clear a crystal, especially for their extraction process and that. But I basically tell people go into a meditative space, connect with their crystal. And when they're in this altered state, their guides, their counselors, their higher self, whatever you want to call it, ask for a method, a means to clear the crystal that really works for you. So you may be primarily a visual person. So maybe light is something really works for your senses in terms of extending that intention. And so you may want to work with the energy of light, the sunlight, you may want to imagine pearlescent white lights and gold light passing through the crystal clearing green light for other people. I think the four wins they use something with with fire. Yes, they'll use that fire, the light of fire to clear and clean the crystal as well. So the other thing is to use an at least one or more elements. If you're using water. You can look it in in a in a bowl with purified water, maybe put other like sand or or salts or something that energies. And then you just ask for the crystal to be cleared and cleaned. And if there's any number of ways I would go into your own meditative space and get the instructions, but it requires a ritualized intention, and at least one element.  And ask intuitively, is this is this enough. You could do something as simple as covering it with a sacred cloth and asking the crystal to be to be cleaned. And you will know when that crystal is clean and cleared your guide your guides will have done that. And, and so there's, again, there's many ways, and it's founded on intention, and at least one element or more. How did you come to connect with Dr. Alberto Vio though because you've been working with him and his shamanic students for a really long time supplying the crystals. What was that the inception of your relationship. Oh my god that's a good question that was been so long it's been over 20 years. I just think one of his students connected us. And one thing led to another. I remember in 2006. I was having dinner with Alberto and Marcella, and they were telling me, you know, this is the that the financial crisis around that time and they said, Kirby, you know, about 600 students a year go through my program. I would really like for them to have a vocal tool, but not all of them can afford a really expensive, you know, $800,000 even more crystal. What can we do about this. And so what I did was I sourced laboratory grown crystal. Now, in, in laboratory grown crystal there are different degrees of quality. The worst is, is basically a type of glass, and the problem with glass is the internal structure, the molecular structure of the silicon dioxide is amorphous that means there's no structure to it it's it's like random it's like water that has just been, you know, frozen, but there's no, and because, and because there's no piezoelectric molecular structure to it. It doesn't generate a piece of electricity, it doesn't, it doesn't have all the attributes like storing information energy and things like that it needs that structure that silicon dioxide. So there are very high quality laboratory grown crystals that I have access to, as well, and we try to test the quality of the courts it's basically industrial, you know, for for electronics grade courts. This kind of thing that it does have that structure to it. The difference though is that because courts holds information and energy, the laboratory grown courts is usually not more than a few years old so it's like a, it's like a blank slate. This is a negative, negatives to that the natural crystal. Brazil for example is around 90 to 100 million years old on average. Madagascar, the fields of courts there can be up to 200 million years old is very very old courts and there's different qualities related to that. So when you get a natural piece of course, it's really great for doing all kinds of things. For example, like channeling or speaking with the unseen because this course has characteristics from the earth that give it that give it this, well, this ancient knowledge of being here. And, and it's a it's a record keeper of sorts of this type of thing, whereas a brand new laboratory grown crystal. It's like handing you a hard drive without any programs in it. The positive thing about that is sometimes you don't want anything in it, you want to program the crystal yourself. And it gets programmed by just you using it just being in proximity to you, just you having a bond, and then specifically using it or or just having it, you know, near you.  And, and it won't have anything else in it. So there, those are pros and cons for for both, both ways. Always your path. Did you know from the time you were young. I am a gem and mineral guy and I'm going to create products and tools and facilitate individuals and sessions and groups and invent. Or is this something that just surprised you in its reveal. Well, it surprised me and it didn't I. People ask me, you know, how did you get into this. And basically, my father worked for an international construction company. And whenever he went to South America or Saudi Arabia or Africa building, you know, on dam projects or pipelines or, you know, constructing all kinds of structures, he would bring back to me fossils and crystals and minerals from all parts of the world, and I as a six, eight, 10 year old child was fascinated, and I have this collection.  My God, they come out of the earth they're just, what, what is that happen that's like, it's, how does it happen. And, and so, in my late 20s, I had done a lot of jobs, and I was thinking I, I'm kind of lost I don't know quite what to do. I love traveling. And I looked at my crystal collection I said, that's what I wanted to buy and sell crystals. And I, you know, I started doing that at in my in my late 20s so I kind of consider myself a late bloomer, in terms of all this as well. Even though I've been collecting all my life. Right, right guy right path. One of the things you sent to me was this guidebook about the exploration of the light labyrinth. Talk about what is the light labyrinth project and how can people experience it what is the experience. My commitment, as you have stated before, very succinctly is my commitment is connecting the crystal mineral kingdom with the human kingdom. And I'm always exploring different ways to do that. In the late 1990s, I met through a teacher of mine. Randall fonts he was a light artist at the exploratory. And I became fascinated with his study and research as an as a as a scientist and an artist with light. And I said to him, Randall, let me bring bring some really big crystals into your light laboratory and let's light them up and let's see what what it does. So, we, we did that. And, for example, this, this big skull back here is Goliath, 36 pound Brazilian courts skull. And that box is the culmination of all our research. And it has seven colored LEDs, very bright. And what we did was, you know, I asked all these healers teachers, light therapists shamans and artists, what do you want in a light tool what do you want to do with your research. And we put them all in in a computer program, and with a remote control. And, and that's, that's how that evolved. When Randall saw a really big crystal skull and crystal I brought to his laboratory exploratorium. And when he lit it up he said, Oh my God, I finally found the object I was meant to light, because, because, because light needs an object to reflect from. And when you light the crystal you're activating the silicon dioxide, you're, you're, you're allowing the viewer to go into an altered state, so that they can see and relate to the information that's in the crystal is unique for them. And we, the light frequencies that we use are based on neural feedback patterns and color. And so, when we're strobing the color frequencies into the crystal it's activating the crystal, it's putting the color into person alpha, then a delta, excuse me theta, then a delta state of consciousness and even gamma as well. This sort of hyper awareness is beginning to emerge the state of meditation is altered state being to emerge. And from from this expanded perception that's generated from the light frequencies and the colors. One can, once now operating out of out of a sense of our psychic intuition you might say, and we can perceive things that we can't in normal consciousness, and the crystal, then reveals itself to different people in different ways, whatever is relevant to them, it could be, it could be an unseen friend an ancestor, it could be a vision of the future, it could be something that they want to resolve, it could be how to manifest something. It could be when we had a Vietnam vet, he would come to my house once a month, because he had lost his legs, and he was constantly on pain medication. He said when he was in front of the this big crystal ball. In these light frequencies, he would totally not feel any pain. Wow. That would last for probably about an hour after a session, but he would want to come every month just to sit in front of this frequencies and these crystals, and and feel no pain. And that was his, you know, that was this thing. So, understandable.  It's mirrored, and then there's a round piece in the very middle that emits light. Yeah, and you can do different types so you're really making me think so some of them can be very slow. I'll use my fingers for those who are watching changing lights and various colors, then there is actually one that is more strobe light and then goes very quickly. I would also like a crystal because of how it allows the light to go through it and sometimes is fractal and it's quite beautiful. Is it important. The light frequency with what the recipients receive. Is there something to the color of light and the frequency of light that's important in this. Every part of this is important to the experience of the viewer and has an impact color for example I would I do sessions with people and we just sit in front of crystal colored light crystal colored light. So we go through the chakras, you know we go through the different colors, we bathe in these colors. And by the way, whenever I'm tired in the middle of the afternoon, I will just bathe for five minutes in orange, orange light through the crystal. And I will feel like I had an hour of coffee. Right, it was, it's very warming and energizing and activating and it retunes and retones my nervous system somehow orange light does that. So, we'll sit in front of the crystal, and I'll play different colors or different patterns, and I'll ask the last people what what's coming up for them. Let me give you an example. Every color has, let's say a light side to it and a shadow side to it. For example, red. Red is one of the most provocative colors people sort of either love red or really have an aversion to read people who love red say things like, I feel alive, I feel like I can feel my body I feel like I, I feel confidence. And in Asian culture is is lucky and fortunate and in this people who dislike red say things like it's anger, it's blood, it's violence, it's negative power. Okay, now, red is red. So, it's just, it's just project. It's a tribute to it. We've a frequency on you, and wherever you're at, where you're at it's going to be accentuated and reflected from this color. Now, say, I feel a negativity of fear with red, for example, then we start playing with other colors. Maybe I'll add some blue and maybe I'll add some purple and just enough for them to go. Oh, okay, that that feels nice. I feel so we're working with their energy field with color. And when they feel a sense of integration a feel a sense of Oh, I feel fine now. Then we sort of back off on that blue back off on that purple, maybe, maybe back off in the green a little bit if I've added green I'll experiment with them to see what's going to give them a sense of balance and ground in this at first, and then back off in that and slowly their relationship to red begins to transform begins to heal.  And it's okay. I've now separated energetically that whole story.  Okay, that's, that's amazing. Yeah, you need you basically neutralize something that was a trigger. And I love that because it just takes it occupies space for all of us wherever our triggers are our wounds, when these things repeat in patterns or show themselves that it really takes us out of the present and re injures us right and it's a reaction to something that in this present moment isn't actually there. So it's great you can neutralize it. The light labyrinth it combines the crystals it combines the lighting programs and it's this journey through the color and the beauty. Sometimes it is strobing sequence sequences that are projected. And is it projected into ancient court crystals and if so is the ancient part important is there is that where the wisdom is that can come out for us. And then basically all crystals in geologic time are ancient relative to our existence as humans. So it's all ancient. And, and there's also a morphogenic connection between all crystals so you go into one crystal and you can teleport your consciousness into other crystals as well. So there's this whole morphogenic field, which once you once you get into the crystal crystals at that level. We're using three vectors of consciousness, the consciousness of of ancient quartz crystals, the consciousness of light and the con and human consciousness, and we find that when we align these three things just right. When something happens there's there's a aha moment there's an epiphany there's, it's hard to describe it's like, Oh, wow, is an awakening. And that's what we're kind of aiming for always. And I'm always adjusting the color or the frequency, or even bringing a different crystal in, or trying to adjust the, the attitude or the way, or the, or try this perception or try this imagery, you know, with a viewer to make this these adjustments so that we find that that point of epiphany, I would say, you know, it's, and your store seed crystals that's in the East Bay in San Francisco, California, is that correct. That's right and I'm in San Pablo, which is a little north of Berkeley, Oakland, yes. So if you were wanting to see you your crystals have one of these experiences, would they come to your store or set something up. Yes, they would, they would call me and we would just set up an appointment, and I could connect them with crystals I can show them the holotope and light labyrinth. It's all kinds of fun things we can do here. But this is my home and and so it's kind of by appointment only so yeah. Excellent. Good to know. And so holotope. So that's geometric artwork. And it said that it allows a viewer to perceive multi dimensions which I think is amazing. When I watched your video on your website. To me it looked like sacred geometry. It's it look like things I've seen while drinking ayahuasca. Yes, there's something very sympathetic about those psychotropic spaces and high level of complex complex geometries. So, in this corner to to the to the right here is a picture of the holotope. In the other room we have a canvas that is almost the size of the whole wall with projector screens on it. And it's comprised of two images the first image is a mandala, which is the geometry that you were mentioning. It's called the eight gossip holotope in particle physics and math, the eight is used to describe the potential location of the elementary particles in an atom in all atoms. So we have this eight dimensional object that represents atomic structure as we know it. And what Randall did was he colored each of the eight dimensions. And stakingly different colors. And then as we are projecting colored light onto the pigments, the reflection of colored light against colored pigments, give complimentary colors, give rise to new colors, give rise to intensities and glowing. Sometimes it just neutralizes and goes dark. So we have these different dimensions popping in and out. When the viewer looks at this image. The mind begins to comprehend multi dimension very quickly, which is what a lot of what, you know, meditation and altered states is about going into back into that sense of a multi dimensional state of awareness, where we come from. We can do a less less of a sense of limitation. And in those states we can exercise new perceptions we can release things we can program for new new possibilities we can ask for visions. We can talk to the unseen on different levels as many things we can do. Once we're in that state. Most, most meditations traditions are really about getting there. We're just now starting to go well once you're there what do you do. You know, so. And it's an eyes open meditation both the light labyrinth and the holotope is the eyes open meditation. And what we're doing in that sense is we're inviting the conscious waking rational mind into the dream time into the altered state. Additionally, lots of meditative practices is about blocking or distracting the, the ego mind, so that you can, you know, get into the subconscious and unconscious levels. So we have, we've done that now for so there's a critical mass of people now who have matured their conscious waking rational minds to the point where now we can integrate that into the dream time the subconscious and unconscious and it's very important because the, the, the physical mind has something very precious, even though it's the weakest in terms of capacity of what it can what it can do and comprehend. I think cognitive psychology says we can only hold seven plus or seven plus or minus two bits of information our conscious mind at one time.  But we're, but what the conscious mind has is is free will and choice, we can focus. Okay, so we bring that sense of free will and choice, which is probably our greatest gifts, God given gifts into the dream time into the subconscious and unconscious and do our work. That work, basically speaking is to is to release negative things trauma, heal, and, and then find a new vision transform back into a vision of new possibilities and, you know, wonderful love. Yeah, that's a great way to put it I like that so much. That's why the healing journey is really important. And I've experienced a lot of what you're saying and it's also never ending. I will say, I'm so curious why I listened to you talk Kirby, going to throw in an unfair question at you but here you go.  And if so, what is the most profound experience you have had either with a holotope with the light labyrinth or with any kind of crystal and tell us about it. Oh, okay. I've probably done a good 35 38 years using plant medicines under a shaman teacher who has who passed away probably about five or six years ago so I really haven't seriously done that work since since then but I did probably 35 years of that. When you asked me that the first the first thing that came up for me was in that context was using Ibogaine. Oh, wow, you did it. Oh, this is a good answer. Okay. Um, now I had all my crystals around me and everything. So what happened was, I was in this room by myself with with the shaman who's holding space. And suddenly I heard this knock on the door, really boom boom boom.  And then I hear the the windows start to rumble.  What is going on here.  And he goes, Oh, good. Um, basically, what he said was, Herbie, you are experiencing being being born. And the, the different phases of you studied Stan Grof the different there are different phases of the birth process. And the first phase is you're in heaven you're one with mother, you're all your needs are taken care of everything. You're happy everything's great you're in paradise.  And then the third stage, you're actually, you know, you're be actually being pushed out of the womb. And so you're going from paradise into this sense of, Oh, God, what did I do. I must be bad and wrong. I must be negative ego forms at that point. Basically, in dealing with the trauma of being pushed out of the womb being rejected by mother, you feel like it's this is over. And that's it. I'm dead. I'm going into non existence. I am being killed, and mother's killing me and what what I do psychologically is I say, What, what did I do wrong. What's wrong with me. So I assigned blame and shame to myself. So Victor was telling me, that's the point where this is happening. Now, it's really important that I stay conscious and go through this and find out what I did. What I said, the thoughts, beliefs, the attitudes, like original wound coming out of the womb wound coming out and he said it's important to stay with it.  And, and this is birth, and it is an act of love. So he so staying conscious and present through that trauma. You know, reframes that whole experience. And he said this is great because we spend so much of our time and energy blocking that trauma, tremendous amounts of energy our whole lives are organized around it. There's no idea how much until until we resolve it. And then it's like, just things just get easier, you know, a lot easier. Was it resolved because of your experience. Well, I would say, I would say yes. I absolutely got through it and had all kinds of insights I just all kinds of insights as to why this, you know what I said then and, and the circumstances of my life now and and connecting the dots and things like that. Absolutely. Absolutely. I, it's absolutely. Yes. So I just want to say this preface this so the audience can understand those who don't understand because I'm sure some of you out there have done this, I regain. But I it's often used by addicts and it's one of it's a mirac it can be a miraculous cure for people who have for instance a drug addiction or an alcohol addiction that has just intentions they have tried everything and nothing has worked. Now the thing about Ibogaine is that it's at least 24 to 32 hours straight through Mamma Mia. So that's the only reason why I've never done it because I've always thought what if I want to get out. And I'm an hour six or eight and it's like, dear God I've got I replicate these eight hours three more times like talk about that like what is what is that incredibly extensive period like and I assume this really long almost two day experience was way more than just not I don't want to make it just but you understand that just that experience with the rebirth there must have been way more that occurred for you in that time frame. Yeah usually usually there's some big issues that get come up and then however you deal with maybe you take care of 30% and then the next time you go in and another 10% or 15% until until the thing flips, but the last half of the whole journey really is about resolution. And how you take, how you take what just happened and integrate it. And it's important because people that's when people want to come out. That's when they want to go, Oh, I, I survived I'm going to go party now, like bring up the margaritas No, no, no, no, no, stay in because those these precious moments of insight, help you integrate that experience. So, so that's one thing. Yes, it's, it's, it's a, it's a good 2024 hour and you're peaking for probably 12 hours, whereas the other plant medicines that usually are, you know, four to six hours LSD can be eight hours this kind of thing. But you know when you're in it, when you're in the middle of it, it's an eternity, whether it's. So, it's, it's definitely a marathon, and there are definitely techniques that the shaman uses to keep your psycho activity going and doing things like for some reason in the case of Ibogaine marijuana is very sympathetic and supportive so if you're starting to kind of like come down, you can, you can make the journey a little bit longer or keep, keep that level up with a little bit of tincture of marijuana, that kind of thing it's really nice with that. But these shamans know about all these different, the alchemy of these different plant medicines and things like that so. Thank you so much for going. It's like that with plant medicines. My main connection with the stones came from. I mean, I wouldn't say my main but when I really got into what the stones are in the skulls and these artifacts and power objects. I see them at many different levels during the height and experiences of plant medicines. So I totally encourage people to, to get who to get into the crystals and minerals with with the plant medicines. You know, I don't know the plant medicines, they're not for the. I don't want to say the faint of heart, you know, it's a it's a it's a pretty heroic journey. And if you're going to do it, because it's it's not about having nice God fairy trips and seeing, you know, trade trails and recreational stuff. It really is about. Ultimately it's about ego death and in and deconstructing the negative ego. Yeah, ayahuasca means death fine. And that is the death of the ego it's also also the death of issues you've been carrying around and powerful, powerful stuff. And I'll just give you a very quick story, because of being, and I, let me just preface this like, this is like one of those medical disclaimers, it's not for everybody. Unless you're called to it, pass. But if you're called to it, you know, right grandmother I have plant medicine whatever the plant is taps you and goes like this and, and it's beautiful to have a calling like that I haven't I've drunk many, many times and that I didn't drink for a year and a half. And being in the shaman school, I literally out of nowhere felt the tap, and it said, while you're in school, I want you to come sit with me. Now, I went into this experience this was two or three weekends ago. And I thought, oh, yeah, I'm going to get all these shamanistic down. And here's what's amazing. It actually was for a different purpose. And so I hours least you talked about a hero's journey was a shero's journey. I was getting so much information about my mother. Clean clean clean clean clean the relationship a tone for this do that I mean it was, and I kept asking it, please I get it I'm sorry I'm done. And grandmother was like, you're not hours. And I literally had a call over the shaman said, oh my God, how can I get this to resolve. And he was expressing to me, you have to somehow have it owned inside of you, so that this will like an earnest pass. You know what, I let go. I totally surrendered at that moment and said, then this will be what it'll be. I'm in it for the ride as long as the duration. And here's what's so beautiful. And I don't want to make this a bummer but you know, here's what's beautiful. My mom's health took this huge turn a week and a half later. And she ended up in the hospital, and literally on Saturday, this past Saturday got moved to hospice. My mother is dying. Right. And no one could have predicted this so quickly. But the moment she landed in the hospital and I started hearing things from the doctors, I went. Oh my goodness. And now of course I know for sure. So much grandmother ayahuasca for the love and the kindness you had in preparing me in saying I need to pull you for a few hours.  And so here I went in thinking yeah, I'm going to get these shaman downloads. And she was saying I love you so much and you are fulfilling your destiny in this program so keep going, but we got some work to do. And thank God, because I can show up in this moment so mindfully. And as the healer and the leader, I'm being prepared to be I get to be that right now and help another human being go to the other side and I wish in a way I wish somebody would for me when it's my time. That's beautiful. That is so beautiful. And by releasing yourself, you've released her to be the being the person on her journey. So she's not holding on to you as a daughter, necessarily so much to some degree yes, but, but she's not having to. She's got permission to let go on a whole other level she's may not even be aware of, you know, so that she can have her peaceful death and go to the next place. Yeah. Yeah, I got chills when you said that that's really beautiful. And I like that that those identities get dropped, and I get to be this the personification of something I think is very old in me and being reawakened this shaman, whatever this is that I'm, I'm in right now and will continue to be in. And she gets to be just a beautiful soul on a journey, and that's ending for this moment and gets reconnected. Yeah. This is a crazy question, but, and I hope I'm the first who's ever asked you. So Kirby if you could ever have just one crystal out of all and I know you must have a love affair with so many, for so many reasons, but if I said you can only have one crystal Kirby what would it be and why. Wow. They won't hold it against you. On the one hand, there's probably a good hundred crystals that I could say that to about if I just have this one. And, and, and it is because they are all interconnected. So, they're just different interfaces for the, for this field of, of crystal existence that, and any one of those I can tap into so I can take something as big as Goliath, or something, you know, something as, you know, small as this, and I could be happy with that. That would be enough. So it's actually one of my teachers said that's one reason why I'm actually good at in this business is because I don't necessarily fall in love with everything I know I know people in this business that oh I got to have this I got to have this and then they end up not selling stuff because you got to let it go. What gives me a thrill is when I, when I've connected somebody with a crystal and it feels right for them. And that's, that's where my, that's where it's juicy for me, you know. So, so, yes, I could literally there's there's probably like 20 crystals. Goliath being one. I'm surprised how few crystals I say are mine. You know I really just have like 20 or 30, you know, it's unattached. I love that. Can we meet Goliath is that okay to take him off of the stand and have him be introduced to us, because I do want to talk about the crystal skulls. And while you get him I'm just going to pattern so if I understand this correctly there's 13 rare crystal skulls. They're in private, they're in public locations collections summer, like yours ish almost actual human size and fine detail and then others. I'll show you the one I just got. I'm like, like crazy about this I may may make it one of my kuyas, but this is dragons blood and Jasper. I'm like, cool, I just got him and I wanted to bring him on to honor you and Goliath, and others are smaller and less refined and I think they all originate from Mexico and Central America. And so I just want you to tell us about where, where they carved tens of thousands of years ago in Mesoamerican civilization. Are they actually from an extraterrestrial race that has, I've heard this a lot of wisdom and information in it. Talk about these master crystal skulls and any knowledge about them. Okay, I'm going to get something where I can elevate him so you can see him. Is he so heavy. Goliath is was big. Anyway, that's a great name for him and so I have to say he has to be elevated if he's Goliath. And I think Kirby even offers master crystal skull sessions. So this is for real people setting up appointments with him. See. Oh, he's huge. He is huge. Yeah. I mean, there was a lot of, there was a lot in that question. Boy, where do I start. I have worked with a lot of the so called ancient crystal skulls. And there is controversy what is an ancient crystal skull, because all crystal itself is ancient. So then it becomes when was the carving done. And is that ancient. And my friend and teacher mentor Nick no Sereno. He taught me a lot about crystal skulls he developed something called psychic archeology back in the 60s and 70s. This was before remote viewing is was called remote viewing he was doing remote viewing but he was looking for artifacts all over the world. He discovered a Chandra in grero Mexico which is a which is a part of the ancient crystal skull that he he found there that's that's famous in the parlance of crystal skulls now. And he basically said that that there are three things that primarily make a power object and particularly a crystal skull. One is and probably the most important is the crystal itself. The crystals are teacher crystals, their speakers, they, they, they are, they exist as ambassadors from the crystal kingdom to the mineral kingdom. Oftentimes, we call the skull consciousness, because of the interface between the two forms of life human human and crystal. So, so we have these teacher crystals that are not only recording crystals recording, recording massive parts of information from the world, even even galactically, and then, and then store it that you can pop that then then you can use as an oracle to to consult and and, and, you know, as a teacher crystal skulls and match as a master skull. So there's the crystal itself, so to find a crystal like that is extraordinary. There's also the fact that, like I said before crystals are morphogenic so you can always use a crystal to tap into that master crystal skull as well. You know, there's, there's some protocols that we, you know, we have in, but generally that is a possibility. So the next thing is the person who carved the skull, that person, invite into the carving. They were channeling something from their own resources of higher self and unseen friends, and are the artistry, they bring in the culture of the day, and they're putting that into the carving, the crystal skull. And when that person is doing this in a sacred ceremonious way. That that is put into the crystal skull as well. So, not just a production carver just, you know, trying to survive and make something but but an artist and a shaman who is putting that into the carving itself so that's second level. So one is the crystal to is the carver. Third, and probably, probably the most important is the person using the skull.  If you had enough time and energy to focus your attention long enough to make that point, the physical point in our reality a reference for all these things that we're talking about. So, having said that how the user is using this. Are they, are they following protocols of clearing and cleaning and respecting are they addressing this as a companion are they addressing this as a teacher, as a, are they co creating with with this object. That's cool. And there are some ancient crystal skulls that there is a whole lineage that this crystal skull has been for many families and people and shamans and ended down in generations. But that doesn't mean the person getting a brand new crystal skull now can't begin that process and activate that process now and make it a power object. So those three things have, have an influence in particular but but there's nothing that that can't say that anything can't eventually be a master crystal for you. You know, so, can we see Goliath space, you turn him around. Yes. Yes, you asked about the 13 crystal skulls. Yes. So there's a mythology that during Atlantean times, the destruction of Atlantis, there were 13 crystal skulls that went out in the different directions of earth as Atlantis was being destroyed as the receptacle for the knowledge and wisdom of that culture and that age. There was a lot of lactic information it has, it had information from priests and priestesses, all kinds of spiritual and technological information was downloaded into those crystals, and the, the mythology says that at a certain time. We're ready to remember who we are and where we came from, and where we're going and take responsibility for that, that these crystal skulls would rise and, and create a resonant field, you know, back into back into those times. And then the idea is like, okay. And we are very close to highly being highly technological, being at points, tipping points of destroying ourselves in our environment, just like the Atlantean mythologies at that time, and our opportunity this time is to not destroy ourselves but to go forward and integrate and elevate and ascend. Yes. So, so that's the mythology around the 12 crystal skulls, or 13 crystal skull, it was actually 12 skulls that had different themes, and the 13th was the master crystal skull of all of these, whether these actually exist physically. That's an interesting question. I have to say, I don't know for sure, but on the other levels on the, on the higher levels they absolutely exist. In some ways if they existed physically, it would be problematic because then who would own them and who would, you know, what are they worth and, you know, they, they would, they could start a war over who owns them kind of thing. So it's kind of good that we have access to those skulls and their information, but we don't necessarily have them in physicality. There are a lot of people who claim that they have one of those, or, you know, or not. And again, because of the morphogenic and holographic nature of crystal, you could say I'm tapping into the master crystal skull and I'm thinking this is my this is the that crystal skull. Maybe, maybe not, you know, but for you, that's your reality, and that's what you're tapping into and God bless you for it, you know. Is there something to the inclusions because it looks like he, Goliath has a lot of inclusions in him. What talk about what all those are. Yes, the inclusions. Here we go. Every fracture, every veil, every inclusion inside the courts represents an event that happened during the course of growth of the courts. So when you have really clear courts, Wallace courts like the Vogels, those courts grew in environments that were very stable and peaceful very little happened. But when you have inclusions, you have earthquakes plate tectonic shifts, the, the holes shifting, you have all kinds of geologic and even potentially other other events happening that are recorded in these inclusions there, they're like information plates they're like they're like little bits of memory. So when you focus in on one and you go into it in an altered state or shamanically, you will get information about that particular time and place.  So these aren't aren't these aren't flaws, they are, they are markings of different events. They're plates, if you will have a fascinating lifetime. Very cool. How did Goliath come to you how did you and Goliath connect how did he come to be in your keep, or you and his. You know, I found Goliath at the Tucson gym and mineral show I have some friends are and they had carved by Goliath size skulls, and immediately Goliath just called to me, and so I had to kind of drop everything and go, whatever you cost, I'm getting you, you know, and it was. And it's funny because I first I couldn't accept that, oh, I can't keep this, you know, I have to sell it, I can't afford to keep it, you know, and every time it was I was close to selling Goliath. It just never happened. Goliath did not want to leave. And then I started working with with, I get a lot of incredible skulls, but incredible crystals here, some huge crystals, crystals for the light. And master, just absolute master teacher crystals and Goliath has always wanted to work with them. And Goliath has worked a lot with the Mitchell Hedges skull with genre, some with max. These are famous crystals, ancient crystal skulls, and been to many events, including Bashar, and, and this is my recording recording witness skull this skull wants to go to many events and be with it with other master crystals and crystal skulls. And, and so this is my touchdown back into those. Those crystals as well. Oh, I love this so you are definitely connected. And I love the fact that he is the major arcana. He is the one when the other crystals come through that. And we could understand most of what was going on between them, and what the tutelage is and, and the assistance he's giving or the information that they exchange. I mean that's mind blowing. And when you say Bashar. So I know you've worked like you're a very humble guy, but like you've done things with Stephen Halpern, the amazing musician composer, right and I love him he's been on the show. I'm mentioning Bashar I know you actually work with tons of transformational leaders that everybody their names would know what. So Darryl anchor slash Bashar what have you done with him. What is Goliath done with him. Well, boy, I've known. I wanted to get into the ET stuff probably about 1520 years ago. I really, and I kept running into a lot of fear, fear, you know just scary like oh it's you know. Anyway, and I was telling a channel friend of mine this and she goes oh why'd you check out Bashar. I did, and I found Bashar to be positive and loving and and dispelling of any, you know negativity or fear or any of that kind of and I just love Bashar. And I just got to know Darryl and April his business partner I know I know Erica his wife as well but April his business partner and and sponsored and puts on all the Bashar events. And I would come to all the events and bring big crystals in the light labyrinth and they'd be next most of the Bashar events that you see will have big crystals next to Bashar while they're channeling. And on the one hand it's a beautiful, you know it's a beautiful thing but it's also creating a resonance when I first brought the light labyrinth to Darryl at his home to do a reading. And one of the things Bashar, he came after the reading he came he came out of the reading and he told me that Bashar says that the crystal light, the crystal through the light is very sympathetic and close to it's a primitive connection of their spacecraft that that there's something about crystal and light that that their space had had to do with their spacecraft, and that it then created a sense of home for them. So he said you know I when I channel I'd like to have these, you know around me because it just feel has it makes Bashar feel a little more at home. So from then on they began having the crystals next to Darryl while he's channeling and most of his events. Then when I brought the holotope to show Darryl and in April, Bashar did a reading on the holotope and it was amazing basically said, all it takes is 15 minutes and you can go into a deep, deep meditative state, your neural pathways that are crystallized in in in normal consciousness become more liquid and flexible. And then he does a download he does his, his guided meditation, and that's going into a field now a brain field where, where you're more receptive. So he can plant those seeds of the workshop. And then after 15 minutes you come back into normal consciousness, and those seeds have been planted. So, you know, so probably for a good 15 years the holotope was at the end of all his workshops. Since COVID though they couldn't, they couldn't do it, you know, be. So they've been doing other things although now that we have the ability to film the holotope in, you know, in a much higher resolution. April has asked us to create a version that they can use at their, at their channelings at the end of the channelings now. So there, I know he's going to be in Sedona in September. Are you going to be there. I will probably not be there because I'm going to be there the week after that, or a crystal skull conference I'm speaking at a crystal skull conference. Oh, yeah, in Sedona. Yeah, yeah, so tell people where, where, when. If you, if you, it's the weekend of the 17th of November, 1718 19th 19th. And it's, if you go to portals of ascension. Oh, I know them, of course. Yeah. Alan Steinfeld Steinfeld, yes Alan's been on the show he's a buddy. Absolutely. Isn't this Neil Guar. The crystals of ascension. Yes. Okay, and this is in Sedona in November. Okay, awesome. Oh my God. Okay, I hope this is on your website. Yes, it is. Okay, seed crystals.com SC ID. Oh, so many questions. So first of all, I totally resonate. I love this with your head on Goliath. That's great. It's a great snapshot and mean. I got the UFO I totally get it by the way because I had a shift. Mine was about four four and a half years ago that's not a long time ago. And I went from kind of a somebody who tolerated the conversation, but kind of was an eye roller in my own head. Yeah. And that corner got turned so quickly because you know when the divine says it's time it's time. When I entered it I started having people on the show that I'd seen on television and like, pretty big I started with people on the show, worldwide renowned. And they channeled extra terrestrials much as like what you're talking about Kirby. And my questions back then I cannot believe but they were exactly where it was at which was very fear based. Very fear based about meeting them back them landing what would happen. All sorts of stuff but it had to be what it was. And I think when your soul is open to that truth. And that conversation, the divine is so kind so like in your case boom, there's Bashar and quickly you realize this is not only scared not only not scary, but this is phenomenal information. Yes. And very funny, but really deep information coming from him and I've had so much the same experience with Darryl and with Vita Kulhoff and with Jamie Price and Nora Herald and I mean I could just go on and on these tremendous brilliant people out there who are Lisa Royal who are conduits for this massive information and I'm very grateful. I just came back from contact in the desert my first time there. And they had crystal skulls there and it was a beautiful weekend. This is a perfect segue into I noticed on your website. You also have alien skulls, alien heads I guess I'd need to call them alien head skulls that you sell. Talk about what is the difference what galaxy if any galaxy are they from tell us about them. You know, the, the, the sort of standard alien skull is really taken from the, you know, the grays, you know that, you know that that whole, you know, race and Bashar has a very positive spin on what that whole thing is about I we don't need to get into it that that here. As you know, just dipping your toe into this there's many races, many galaxies, a lot of stuff going on to try to make sense of it is mind boggling.  See, here's a little skull. This is Chris appraise. And it's a elongated skull. So I make a lot of variations of elongated skulls. The elongated skulls represent hybrid humans. As you probably know we are we have alien deal DNA in us already. And the elongated skull represents represents that that human and and and alien hominids are coming together and interbreeding and creating something new, a new race. And a lot of people work with those work with these elongated alien heads skulls. And do they get some of what you've defined earlier about the downloads or the, you know, different information and wisdom. Yes, there is there is people who get those are more interested in the more galactic type of connections as well. Yes, absolutely. 100%. Yeah, they are us. Our inception was not on the earth, although we probably most of us spent many lifetimes here but our multitude of lifetimes have often been on other planets, or as other life forms or energy forms, etc. Does anyone who's read Dolores Cannon knows this or has studied galactic information, especially now there's so much beautiful information or had a galactic reading of their soul and Akashic galactic reading it's powerful stuff. And it really levels the playing field, you know it's not they and them, and us, it's we like I am that you are this and you may be an advanced version of me. We are getting ourselves ready for that information about who we are where we come from and where we're going. Absolutely. I want you to tell the story because I love this we we very briefly started this you started sharing before we started the show just with me but I want to open this up. Like, why we're here right now. And besides the fact that I had this conversation with you I'm like, Okay, this guy is amazing. But it was our very first conversation that really arrested me it, like in a beautiful way for somebody who shopped for crystals and this and that but this was my conversation with you was unlike anything I'd ever had before. If you tell from your perspective, I get the notes from class, I need to get this this I'm running around buying books and all sorts of stuff, and then you're on the list and I called you. Take it from there. So you called me early in the morning, I was actually still in bed just waking up. Now normally I wouldn't even pick up the phone but something prompted me to. I don't I didn't know you prior to this and this wasn't that long ago I a few months ago, and I never you know never heard of you I, I, and we had started having this conversation. For some reason normally I would have been groggy and stumbling over my words, suddenly this clarity just hit me and I just started talking to you like we've been talking today about crystals and vocal tools and how to use them and how to download the difference between, you know, natural and lab and all this, all this kind of stuff. And I was just surprised the clarity that my contact with you initiated. It surprised me you said I was very articulate and I'll add but what I was surprised. That was coming out of me to you because that doesn't that doesn't usually happen either so that's something very special so when you asked me to, to speak and be interviewed on the show immediately I said, Yeah, sure, let's see where this is going. So, I'm so tickled that you even remembered me because I know just through Alberto's course alone like he said 600 students come through I'm certainly not the only one and then the other work you do. And who knows maybe I'm a master crystal skull in human form. Well, you've been doing this for how many years creating space for people to express themselves and be a receptacle for that and drawing that out of them so there was something already happening synergistically there. You know, and after this I got to say, Oh, you're killing me Kirby, like I have to figure a way to get to San Francisco and making a point with you because this is so beyond. And I feel like the doors you open. We all love this stuff. I mean I'm surrounded by crystals and geodes right now. Period. We all love this stuff and we wear this stuff and we work with it as best we can. But I feel like this is such an important time where the precipice galactically earthbound wise mother earth wise humanity wise we have choices and even whether we make those choices or not there's a lot energetically happening very rapidly, physically, emotionally, etc. And these tools you're talking about. These are portals that you're saying these are pathways to open up. I feel what's next. And to have somebody like you as a lamp holder that you're holding the torch the light for us to walk on the path and gather these tools to help ourselves and to serve humanity. It feels very profound to me when you share like this. And I figure, I got to get up to San Francisco and have this in person experience with you hope you do and I hope you do soon. It's going to be wonderful. I, I do private sessions but it's not my thing I don't hang out a shingle. Usually, I'm more of a researcher so we create new lighting effects and algorithms and I want to test them so I invite people over and, you know, and, you know, body of friends and stuff and we and people and I get to, to do this and I'm, I guess my position really is looking for people for people to use these tools. And I would love to offer them and train them for people make them available. And that's more my place than actually doing sessions and that kind of thing. So, two final questions. Yes. First riffing off of what you just said. During this very interesting time of ascension 5D and all this stuff and galactic awareness and you know Bashar has said get ready because starting 2024 this is going to be, we are going to start having. We've always had them right throughout our entire human existence we've had connection with UFOs and other beings, however, with all the strangeness the government has been around disclosure and so forth that you know this is that's going away and that the real contact is going to start to begin very out in the open so in preparation for that and the ascension we're going through and all the clearing and cleaning we need to be doing so that we are the people we K our souls agree to come here to be right now. Are there, is there one crystal or a couple of crystals you might recommend or gems whatever that we could work with that would really help us right now. Yeah, I would put it into your intentional field to look for look for an earthkeeper crystal, a crystal that would keep you grounded in these times of change, and also keep you on point and not get by into fear, not into all kinds of speculations of whatever that to be able to tolerate the ambiguity of our times and still be grounded with an open mind. So I would call that in a good earthkeeper crystal, it may be a skull it may be a point, it may be a sphere. I find a crystal that you resonate with and ask, and you be my earthkeeper crystal, and you'll get an answer, you know, it may be something you already have, you know. So, that would be that would be my answer just just be open to looking with that intention, it will, it will pop up there will be probably 10 crystals that raise their hands and go me me me me. And also an earthkeeper crystal and ask it so you have that connection and validity that yes indeed that is the one that wants to pose, not pose that's a terrible word but actually function. Yes, for you at this time like that. And Kirby. Yes, this is dare to dream. What do you next dare to dream what are your future dreams and goals. It's, it's funny because I can barely hold on to my seat and, and that's all I'm kind of trying to do now there's so much going on we started a new website, my, my life Hillary is beautifully created these two new websites, and in doing, and then these videos which which we can share to a wider channel, we're just started at, we're just starting a social media campaign. So we're just launching this thing. And I'm personally, I would just like to see this grow, I would like to see this grow, and I would like to, I just, we just want to be of service and see these tools used. And I, that's really, that's really it. That's, that's really it I, I, you know, I have my parents living with me, and I love it because it completes the circle of life for me. You know, and I just, I feel so fulfilled right now because of that. And in my wife Hillary's here, and we have four kitties and all the, the lives here just feel very harmonious and fulfilling for me. I would, I would love to see our the deconstruction of our political and, and economic systems be soft enough landing for people to make easier transitions. You know, and I would let I would love to see that and I think by healing ourselves and using tools like this and there's so many every week you you interview somebody who is has something to offer in that level and I just would like to see that continue and to reach a critical mass. It won't take that many people doesn't have to be everybody. Thank you so much Kirby seed for coming on dare to dream and thank you for stepping into your mission with such a passion and such a unique way of offering this to all of us for our healing and for our path. Thank you so much for the opportunity. All right. I end today's show with this poem called unfold your own myth by roomie. But don't be satisfied with stories how things have gone with others unfold your own myth without complicated explanation. So everyone will understand the passage we have opened you. Subscribe to this number one transformation conversation the weekly dear to dream podcast with Debbie dashinger like and leave a comment. I read them all. And next week on the show is going to be the amazing Dr. Sharon Martin who's going to be here to talk about shamanic healing techniques to overcome health challenges. Thanks for joining us today and remember if your message your business your being is ready to be seen and heard on podcasts on radio on media, and you would like to learn how to be an interview guest, not just get booked. I can teach you that but how to be amazing. Once you get booked on the show and what to do after the entire system. Join me go to Debbie dashinger.com slash gift. And you can come to my free webinar let me teach you for an hour and give you all the information you need to go be the brilliance you came here to be. Thank you so much for joining us today on the show. Oh Kirby. That was so cool. That was great. Thank you so much that was fun.


And you found a plan from 1963 and this plan was actually read into the congressional record by a Democrat. Yes. I stumbled upon the 45 communist goals, current communist goals in 1963. And of those reading through them, I was quite alarmed that I used 18 of them in my book because they all relate in one way or another to education. Number 24 says eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them censorship in a violation of free speech and free press. Number 25 says break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV. And 26 says present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as natural, normal and healthy. So has that not come to fruition already? Exactly.


Hi, we're coming to you from the AT&T show. I'd like to introduce you to Xenon. Tell us about what you do. Yes, Xenon is located in Boston, Massachusetts. We manufacture Photonic curing and centering equipment using pulsed UV light. This is an example of equipment we brought with us. This particular unit is one that we just introduced that features a dual pulse technology. So you actually are driving a lamp with two different controllers so that you can offer a high energy followed by a by less energy specifically to aid in the centering of thick conductive inks. What are the sort of industries that are looking to use this technology? Obviously the printed electronics industry is a major customer of ours. In addition to printed electronics, pulsed UV light is also used in surface sanitization in hospitals and in the food processing industry. But printed electronics is a huge part of our business here. That's why we chose to exhibit here and do every year.


What is going on guys welcome back to the channel critical overload here So we're gonna be talking about the exorcist believer here in this video here today Mostly, I'll be sharing my thoughts on the trailer briefly while also diving into more of what you can expect From the film going off of the new release synopsis and some of the comments from David Gordon green and just me sharing my Thoughts on some of the other test screening details that have been shared with me and now seemingly continue to be confirmed From the new details that have been released from green and the new synopsis that recently released So the trailer that dropped earlier this morning I didn't find it to be very impressive at all besides a couple cool shots some nostalgic bait that I admit did go crazy over The acting seems great not gonna lie there. It just wasn't all that impressive to me. It seemed very by the numbers Very standard doesn't mean it's gonna end up being the worst thing possible But the exorcist to me and a lot of other horror fans is just on a different level playing field So we're gonna have higher standards for sequels to certain films and the exorcist is one of them Again As you've heard me mentioned in another horror update video. I've done. I basically know the story already Thanks to test screening folks So I don't intend to spoil the movie But I will address things that come out that I had heard about weeks ago Like some of the fun details in this new synopsis that does tease the film's opening sequence So here's the synopsis since the death of his pregnant wife in a Haitian earthquake 12 years ago Victor Fielding played by Leslie Odom Junior has raised their daughter Angela on his own But when Angela and her friend Catherine Disappearing to the woods only to return three days later with no memory of what happened to them It unleashes a chain of events that will force Victor to confront the the nadir of evil and In his terror and desperation seek out the only person alive who has witnessed anything like it before Chris McNeil So yes, the opening sequence of this film will showcase the death of Victor's wife as the synopsis Describes and then the story will jump a decade or so later to present time. So that is going to be your opening sequence I'm not going to give you any complete context there But yes, that will be your opening sequence as the synopsis alludes to that'll be your opening scene It actually is more more of a callback in ways to the opening of the first exorcist movie But you'll you'll get the complete context when it releases in October I know this is the opening not only because of the synopsis, but because of the details again that have already been shared with me Reference this screenshot in your face right now This is something I was sent weeks ago about the opening and now it's been confirmed with this synopsis So now the trailer also lets us know the girls go missing for a few days But why did they go into the woods? Well, I will tell you this it's connected to the opening scene and the details that we now know about this Single husband who lost his wife. That's all I will tell you It would appear that Bizarre was also back since Chris reveals in the trailer that they've met before when she's taunted by the demon Also, the character of Chris McNeil has become an expert of sorts according to Green who shared these comments in a recent interview with Entertainment Weekly Her character ended up becoming fascinated by exorcism and studying the rights and rituals of possession throughout culture She became a bit of an expert not an exorcist herself, but renowned for the books that she's written Now I put out a tweet saying that this is the type of stuff. I don't want happening with Cindy Prescott in the Scream series I would never want to see Cindy called up and then willingly going into things Because people need her help and she's an expert, you know, she's been through this five times before in the past So Chris being knowledgeable on exorcisms in some capacity, that's not the problem That is very believable and very understandable for someone who went through something so traumatic with their child Of course, you might be a little curious about who else has been through this and want to become knowledgeable On maybe how you can prevent something like this happening if that would ever come up again in your life That's not the problem The expert reference is to me Chris does very little. I'm not saying she doesn't do anything in that original film But it is very little That she does to save Reagan during the events that happened in Reagan's bedroom with Merritt and Karris So judging from the trailer the parents seem to believe that chris can help get their girls back But green has already told us in this entertainment weekly interview that she isn't an expert on performing exorcisms in this story So why is she taking it upon herself to even go into a room with this possessed child And risk her life when she's never done a single exorcism before again That's just me going off of green's words and also going off of what I know about the story Perhaps there's context missing again. There could have been reshots Perhaps there's context missing that will make this better on screen But knowing what I have down in my notes about chris and her role If they haven't reshot her role or done anything worthwhile to make this any better This is our Sally Harsie of the year to me it is It could again end up being executed on screen But the notes I have here about chris and her inclusion I'm I'm chalking that up to sar sally harsie level of final girl comebacks. I just don't like it I'm sorry because I don't I don't like what I've read about chris's inclusions from the test screenings I still don't enjoy it now with a trailer and green confirming more of the context isn't helping matters What I don't like about her inclusion also has nothing to do with her living or dying just to throw that out there It's everything in between. I've said so many times on so many so many other of my screen videos I don't really care if you have a character live or die per se What is the journey up to their fate all of that in between? That's what I really care about I care about that meal in between the buns or the meat in between the buns. I should say The buns are only so they only make up so much of this sandwich you're serving to me And chris's sandwich that they have cooked up going off of these test screening notes It sucks. I'm sorry, but it does. Hopefully they brief shot it, but I'm telling you right now if they haven't it sucks Um, I can only pray that again her role has been improved in some capacity from reshots Because there's certain things that if they don't transpire on screen I'll be thankful for them and I'll also tell you what those things were if they don't already transpire on screen But given some of the other spoilers that have been confirmed today from the trailer and greens recent interview about chris I don't think they're doing chris any justice. I think chris is completely useless to the story I think it's a waste of her waste of a comeback. I think they're leaning too much on nostalgia Instead of giving her something worthwhile to return for sure she might feel guilty about reagan I can understand that I can respect that but If she has never performed an exorcism again according to green How is she any more of an expert than I don't know calling up a priest? I mean, maybe she's in an ed warren scenario in the film where because we know ed wasn't supposed to do The exorcism in the conjuring maybe she's in that type of scenario, but even still then I don't see that happening. I also know that from the test screening notes. That's not what's happening Um, I just don't it's kind of hard to just believe that she would willingly just thrust herself into a scenario like that Given what happened with her daughter I would think she would take an approach to avoid this not go help others Physically as much as you can keep on helping them virtually and through your books because we see a youtube video clip of her But whatever Chris Ellen bursting I'm sure she'll do a great job as far as her delivery and her performance. I I don't have any doubt there I just don't think the writing is all that up to par with a worthy return Let me know what you guys think about this down in the comment section below If you haven't already, of course, make sure you subscribe turn on post notification and there's a video in the description I'll have links on my social media accounts. I am on facebook twitter and instagram You can message me there, of course Let me know there's any movies news or reviews I'm going to cover in the future And yes, the exorcist believer sequel is titled exorcist deceiver that film is releasing sometime in 2025 And with all that in mind guys, I will see you in the next video


You started talking about this herd of microbes in your soil. How do you contrast that with perhaps a conventional view of soils? Okay. Well, I remember in somewhere in grade school, junior high, somewhere in there, they were talking about raising crops in the desert. And the saying that all you needed was the water and the nutrients, and the sand could be the medium to hold them, and you could pump it all in and do just fine. And that's probably true. I think you can grow a lot of starch that way. I don't know about nutrient density. But anyway, that was a little bit of a model in the back of our mines and in all of our mines as we started farming. And the gist of that was that the soil is just a sponge out there, just nothing. It's just something to hold the nutrients that you brought in. So I think we, conventionally, we come into farming with a little bit of that idea in our mind. We look at the soil, and as producers, when we used to tell, we'd pull it up and we'd see the roots and we'd see. We knew, part of us knew, that there was more to that than just being a medium to hold nutrients. But I don't know that we really understood all of the life, and we still don't understand all the life and all the interactions that were going on in the soil. But we can be pretty successful commercial or conventional producers without having a real good understanding of how the soil works. It's a little bit like electricity. You turn the light switch on, and the light comes on, and you know there's more to it. And then somebody starts kind of explaining it, and you go, oh yeah, okay. And that's the way it is with people like Jay. You know there's something going on on that soil. And Jay starts explaining it, or Jeff Hemingway starts explaining it.  And some of that I have to retain, and some of it I don't have to retain, I just have to understand. Just like, I don't have to understand how electricity works to run the light switch. I need a basic understanding, and it's the same analogy. You got to look at it as a long term investment, okay. You're going to start doing some no-till, and you're going to see some good things and you're going to see some bad things, okay. And the bad things are going to take care of themselves as you start doing this and learn more about it. But you need to look at the things that you don't like as well, and say, okay, how do I change this and make this work?


As you can see already Bricks the bloody Perfect spotless That was the em water The best, it's like meringue, that woody sabersaw just goes straight through it Which means No dust for the neighbours, no dust for the neighbours and these should just come out with ease tomorrow So this will stop the lentil sitting flat so Cut that off and repaint it then No that absolutely glorious morning, Friday, day two on this job I like to put on the new work tissue, just giving the van a bit of a clean-out The hand brush, the soft one Pass, it's not where I thought it'd be Wasn't a blue tooth I like to redo that since it didn't work So there's our bluebush grinder, which is brilliant So We've bought the bluebush sabersaw, which came with two three blades On both couple of these carbide blades for this mortar Which he absolutely sails through because it's very soft There it is Perfect tool for the job 107lb plus fat from berries Couldn't help myself, thought very good by that So I'm going to hop up there now and start taking some more out and get these props in We'll see you up there All right, here we go, here's our steel Which has been a good mix at the end Surprising me Standard angle iron, but it's a big span that Cavities are shaving at sweet conditions So we might not be usable We might just cut it off and tuck our window underneath it Blowing insulation, but they've made mangy stuff And this is real good, a bit real good This is the bad end You can see it there The wind has been pulling, the best trend You can see the rust Going down the trend, this is a new window So I'll get these bricks out now Get it all fixed All right, I think maybe one or two more and we'll get the props in Fantastic All right Can you find me the plug-in chisel mate, please? I've got to be even of a loose I've got to be so careful with them Can't be hitting them with hammers because It's just kind of like a break in Just wave them out, don't bully them out Thank you Now let's take it away It gives us a clean As you can see, standard Cavity tray Need to get this insulation pack back up Which we can use our own insulation to Push this on the cavity Try and get that silicon off if you can pal Oh yeah, picked up wind as well Just off of the tray That's the insulation underneath the tray Right Al, let's get the first Acro in Here's the brush we were looking for Yeah Right I'm back from a quick dash to berries because Quick? Well, as quick as I could be Show us what's happened Second to last brick Has broken Tell you what It's gone back well like you know So What I've done is I've nipped to berries Picked that with a brick upon I've got the absolutely nearest brick that we have Which is this one Which obviously isn't That's good So we've got that option Turn the camera, that doesn't look too bad But These are a bit more buttery And the other option is I've bought a tube of apocry Which Alex has got there Which is instant repair Which goes off in five minutes So We're going to glue it back together Copy it all up See how it goes See how it looks And we think we're going to We think the customer's happy we're going with this one Because the actual bond Is stronger than the bricks So we'll give that a go And we'll let you know Later on which one Which one is gone with So I've just got one more brick to take out there And then we can start putting it back together It says rotate it 90 degrees Oh there you go We're in Should we put a mask on from there Oh yeah And gloves A drain stock there Yes you've got the two Two ingredients And the mix and the Just about see it's like Looks like the inside of a silo mixer Yeah So Plenty of clay here to bond So this should work ok So we'll do the face first We'll practice on the back It comes See it That's cool Stinks It's horrible isn't it Smells very synthetic This is the same as that other stuff Only that It comes in two tubes Yeah You've got an adhesive and a hardener We'll just glue them one One One side Yeah Careful not to squash the face on this bit No There's only years working with you I've never glued a brick back together In all the years 35 years I haven't worked I've never glued a brick back together I've probably threw a bit of silicone on it But never done it properly like this This stuff will drive Tougher than the brick Yeah And it's Having checked it It does It looks Really tidy You can't Like the customer said You can't even spot it And you get a spare tube Does that go back on? Erm Maybe Shall I pop this on now? Yeah, nice and gently I'll let you do it Plotting them videos isn't it Yeah Shall we get some hissing to wipe off the air? Yeah Hissing's over there So I'll get you that in a second Another thing some people do When you're repairing a crack Is get a bit of brick dust The same colour as the brick And put it in the crack So once that's wiped away You should be able to be Hard to notice Trouble is it chews it up now doesn't it What do you mean?  I don't want to try What are you trying? Keep rolling Do you want to get some hissing Or do you want to try and wipe Some away instead of scraping it Can't do yet Looks a bit better Yeah Time will tell It's ready Now we need to get it cleared up Get a mix on now Rolling Filming Yep Well it's not too bad at all No So just before we take it down I was expecting it to be as heavy as the steels Because I'm not that used to it but As you can see Quite a bit of significant rust damage So it's quite a few bumpy bits as well So it's definitely starting to lift the brick work Wasn't it? Yeah Oh that's why we're here Now to get the bloody monstrosity in I'll feed it, am I feeding it to you? Yes Are we cutting in half and cutting in the skip? Can't do And that's weird that That was underneath the tray And it's so It's the telltale spot where it starts going So that's lifting the brick work But this is the good end But that's If you look at that upstand What they've put in for that 10 foot opening And what an structural engineer's worked out For the segment Must be a great inch upstand Bit of a difference, isn't it? Not as bad as I thought it was going to be Still heavy Yeah Ready? Before we lift it If you just push it to me a bit as I lift it Right, try and lift it Don't try to slide it Because it'll take the galvanised off it As she blows Yeah, it's nice and clean that end There's a difference Replacing that Sorry, replacing that Replacing that Bit of a difference I think it's the same thing It's still maybe slightly thicker It's the upstand that gives it the strength And then this end we've got this takeoff We've got a little bit of galvanised paint To paint that with Look at that done now Yeah, I've got fresh bloody clay again So we've cleaned that Nice and flat now That's a bit of paint on that I'm also cutting this down So I can get it in the skip At 10 pence a kilo It's not worth keeping that to anything So I'll get on with that now Here we go Fast drying rust protection Use unlike rust or clean metal You don't get much cleaner than that So I'm not going to ruin a bloody paint brush for that So I'm just going to use a bit of tissue And take it on Get some to the lid I've painted some of the big tons with this stuff I've got a point in Charlie if you need it Right Smarten it Yeah If I say I'm not ruining a paint brush just for this So Do it like that Smells good Put plenty on Oh it does Smells good There you go Another tip I picked up when I got Bulked in the comics again Last time I cut one of these Somebody said When you cut an angle line That you buy in the shops The cut end is going to be Exposed to rust So This one isn't And from now on If I do cut anything I'll be using that stuff again There's plenty in there It's good stuff that Shell proof in 15 minutes Hard drying 2 hours Cool Good Good to see what you're doing I'm trying to extend the cavity tray Touch So we can get If I extend that over there We're going to tuck our new one underneath that And that just Chance to get our upstand at this end Right I've got the cut nails please don't you One at a time please Okay One angle Let me just position this camera then Don't worry about filming this bit I'll just film it when it's done It's too fiddly Wrong way This is the painted side though That's alright Ready filming A bit of a preview there Are we in my arms in the way?  Yeah Do you want to lift your end up first Now get your finger under I can't bend down that far Ready?  I've got like A full brick That much left of a brick Right there's not much then It's probably only just one fifty I've probably got about one ten here If you want to pass me the hammer I'll try and tap it You're probably better with that I'm trying to push it with the Leave it off the brick Try and do it again While you're sleeping Push Too much now I need to break the camera From the mount Pass that chisel back on While I'm doing this Hop down and get a take measure Try that One fifty bang on for me Okay One fifty bang on for me It's not sitting very well The brick's actually over Right we're in But we're having a wobble So we need to get that So it stays sat like that So we need to wedge in somehow It's still going to be bedded yet like But we'll go over it And this brick work Overhang the grounds We're going to overhang Overhand Hang So Onto that now Get off the level There we go Half of them Mixes in And I've mixed the mix with That orange bucket So I've done four sands One cement And then I've added a bit more to it With the little blue pot Very useful pointing Four sands, one cement Like there's a bit over a half of mix We've got about sixty odd bricks to do So that should be enough And the reason I've gauged it this time Is because That I've said it before All this has been re-pointed Up to lintel height So when I've I'm going to build this building When I come to re-point round it I want it all to match So that's the plan That's gauged To the same as I do From re-pointing Four to one Yeah So once that's done It'll really tidy this up Look at the state of that It's in bad nick And it's been pointed badly It just looks a mess So it's going to look miles better When we've re-pointed it No patching Unfortunately we can't replace the chip bricks Because You just can't get them Here's our We've gone for the repair It's just got a bit of a A shadow on it But you cannot see the crack And there's the repair That epoxy stuff's fantastic Rock hard it is There's no water getting through that crack So custom's apricot to go with that one Instead of the alternative Which is up there So I think it's a good choice And I don't think that's too bad 60 up bricks will get one breakage And it didn't even It was completely cut out So just as we popped it It just cracked So it must have been cracked anyway Yeah, so Mix is ready Alex has tidied up a little bit We're both going to get up on here The tray's in The original tray's sticking up In here at the moment That's going to get pushed down And sealed with silicone We've got the upstands at each end And once that insulation's pushed down Once the cavity tray's pushed down There'll also be insulation on top of it So there's no way that's going to leak Yeah, that's it for now I think we'll put you on time That's for a bit And then we'll take you up there And do a bit of normal filming in a bit Bye for now Right, course one's in We're going to put brick tar across Not that it needs it This lintel doesn't even need proper And it's solid Absolutely solid Yeah, so there's the old tray Fixed in there Cut off Our new tray's tucked over the top Over the top of the lintel And then that's Stuck down with the silicone And the brick works going against there So that's going nowhere So that's all nicely sealed We've got to put a little bit of insulation in there We've put insulation behind The angle iron So there's a bit behind there And, yeah, brick tar Silicone cavity tray Up standard each end Bosch I'm not going to say so far so good Because I don't want to risk it So I never said that then Plenty on, Al Plenty of it Should have put a brick on top of that brick tar Right, your way I did, but it was in the way of me Right Okay Right We'll go back to time last little bit while we get this in Because it's that much of a beast There's no budging it No So we're going to have to get some D To cover that gap up To show the gap on So we'll get some packers in there And then a piece of D to cover that And seal it up When you need to go clean Because we did cover it But it just kept falling off So this top course You see they're all in there Ready for pointing So get yourself Just enough for a bed Lay your bed Just going up Fill your holes up Easy to do Now that when you're shoving water in from the top I've crossed joints on here And then I never put water on the top Because All it does is catch on the top Smudge the top of the brick and fall out And then So Slide in from the top And then just Wiggle it No tapping Just a little wiggle And that's going to be tight that But it is what it is So that's in And because there's no mortrin there It's easier to get You have more to push to the back So it doesn't plug in We're time lapsing and filming Pardon We're time lapsing and filming Filming It may die in a bit though Not enough though Pardon Under the seat Under the seat Yeah Neemie, bring a cover back as well please We get it as close to flat as you can To the joint Half the battle's won Because you can push it Right of him So that That feels right to the back now Push that off And then push it Push it so it goes tight Now I'm just keep pushing it Against what you've already put in And we're done There 20 to 5 Which is a Considering we had the bricks out For about 11 o'clock Anyway There's yesterday's Alex a little bit 7 o'clock Ready for render Same again there Ready for render That's next week When Malcolm comes and puts me a tower up New lintel And then We're pulling that lintel off of what we can reach We're going to try and get that done Crazy we're going to try and get that lintel While the scaffold's up And there's today's Project Massive lintel And that Went Like a dream Which is a long time since I've been able to say that Everything worked The only snag was we broke one brick And that's been epoxy Bonded back Instead of using a different brick And then Feel free to try and spot it if you can Or the wonky bond That's what we're doing We just have to follow up to there There we go So I'm back Monday No, not That's bank holiday I'm back Tuesday On my own Start grinding all this out To re-point up to the little Not the pike So yeah An easy one at last Well not easy but Straight forward Issue free Which is great The breath of fresh air for us There's the old lintel Chop that up to get it in the stick Proper scabby So yeah Don't forget Give us a like Drop us a comment And if you haven't already Subscribe And then We'll see you in the one Oh yeah Click the bell icon And click all And then you'll be notified Every time we upload a video So yeah, it's Friday So I'll have past eight tonight I'll put it on See you then Like in the past Anyway, that's enough Done See you in the next one Perfect Oh my god I just pinched my chest Oh, what's he doing? He's letting me belly button He's amputating it