Okay, welcome back folks. We just, as we get ready to begin our second part with our beautiful friend, Kathleen Beckman, on the extraordinary, beautiful holiness of Blessed Conchita Cabrera. You know, she radiated the holiness and the beauty of our Lord. Just an extraordinary conversation. So I hope you'll, you've heard the first one or joining us for the second part. We want to remind you of a couple of things. We have our summit on the Blessed Mother on the Merion Mystery and the Triumph of the Immaculate Heart. That's October 13th through 15th at the Shrine of the Blessed Sacrament up in Hansville, Alabama. And also our divine intimacy and marriage retreat. Speaking about this beautiful holiness in married life of Blessed Conchita, you might want to come and work on becoming a saint yourself with your spouse. I will tell you that it's bearing tremendous fruit and it's a beautiful, beautiful event that we're able to engage in that the Lord's asked us to provide and he's just doing a mighty thing. And that's November 3rd through the 5th also at the Shrine of the Blessed Sacrament in Hansville, Alabama. Those are both 2023. You can find out more at spiritualdirection.com forward slash events. You know what else I would say? We'll jump into the show. We've already sold out our 2024 pilgrimage to Israel and with 300 on the waiting list, something like that. Something like that. It was huge. And the reason that's happening is because a lot is happening in Abola Institute and in our work. It just seems the Lord is pouring out his Holy Spirit. So check out the events page. Keep an eye on that. There'll be a new pilgrimage. We'll be scheduling soon. We're leaving for Spain this in 30 days or something like that. That one was sold out. The one for the Holy Land 2024 is sold out. Our next one 2025 is going to be Poland. We're going to go follow the footsteps of Saint John Paul II and Faustina, which is, you know, right now I'm in the midst of diving into Faustina and she's just rocking my world. What a beautiful soul. So anyway, there's all kinds of ways to engage with our work. Yeah. If you want to become Holy, we got a machine for you. Just enter the machine. The Lord does the rest. You just say you're yes and the Lord does the rest. All right, let's go ahead and jump in on your mark. This is Dan and Stephanie Burke. Welcome to Divine Intimacy Radio. Your radio haven of rest. Your hermitage of the heart. Your monastery of the mind where we lift our hearts and minds to heaven to draw upon the wisdom of the saints. And today we have a lesser known saint that is becoming more well known because of the great work of Kathleen Beckman. And we're talking about her new book from Sophia in Stupress called Beautiful Holiness, A Spiritual Journey with Blessed Conchita Into the Heart of Jesus or To the Heart of Jesus. So, Stephanie, why don't you introduce Kathleen to our audience. Absolutely. Kathleen Beckman is an author, evangelist and retreat director. She co-founded an Apostolate of Intercessory Prayer for priests and serves as the administrator of healing, deliverance and exorcism in her diocese. God bless you. You can find out more about her foundation of priests prayer for priests at foundationforpriest.org and more about her writings at Kathleen Beckman.com. Welcome Kathleen to our second part on Blessed Conchita. Well, thank you so much. I'm so happy to be with you and I just want to thank you for all that you do to build up the body of Christ. It's tremendous how God has poured his favor and the Holy Spirit is flowing in and through you, so thank you for all that you are and do. Thank you.  You know, in the last show, we talked about how all three of Conchita's spiritual directors are in the canonization process, right? Right. Bishop Louis Martinez, I think, did I say his name right? Louis. Louis Martinez, yeah. Louis Martinez, his most famous work is on the Holy Spirit. Called The Sanctifier. The Sanctifier, an amazing bishop. The other saint that she came across, I remember in your book, was Pius X. Did I remember that right? That's right. What was her dealings with Pius X? Well, she went to the Vatican and she was, you know, was seeking permission to begin. Now, you know, she's, she was always faithful to her vocation. So she, and this is a real lesson to us, I think, that she inspired the order for priests of the missionaries of the Holy Spirit. So she was seeking permission from the Vatican and made pilgrimages over there. And then also her son was a Jesuit who was studying in Spain and his ministry remained in Spain and never returned to Mexico. So she had audiences with the Holy Father and, you know, she never put herself forward. It was her spiritual directors. Some of them, you know, the Archbishop of her diocese or Archbishop Martinez was in the last part of her life. And so she was very much a daughter of the church and seeking permission to be, to, for these orders to start. So when I say she, she inspired them, but she never obviously had a, like she wasn't living or, you know, active in them. She wasn't on the board of directors. She inspired them and helped them to come forth. And I think just from what I know, what's happened in the church over the last 20, 30 years with women inspiring, you know, movements for priests. I think that Conchita is just a beautiful example of she had this inspiration. She was moved by the Holy Spirit. She has this revelation from the Lord and she helps it to all come together and then goes home and serves her family. She never inserted herself into the order of nuns, even though her heart was there and you read in her mystical writings. Oh, Lord, how I wanted to stay with your beautiful brides, you know, but she would go home and serve her family. And so there's so much that we can learn from that for right order in our vocations. But no, she had many, she always had, she lived 74 years. And I think she's had spiritual directors that were, I think there were maybe eight or nine of them, but three of them. Their cause is already open. Father Felix is the one that Father Felix, he is the one that took the lead of the missionaries of the Holy Spirit, which is the clergy order that she's in. So she was very, she was very interactive with the clergy and leadership in her, in her lifetime there in Mexico, and they're the ones that really put forth her writings. Some of them anonymous, she never suggested that they be published, but, but her, she didn't even tell her own son that she had received revelations on the priesthood. She just said, I heard there is, there are some writings on the priesthood that may be of interest to you. They're circulating in Mexico. Wow. This is a beautiful, you know, this is a beautiful teaching for all of us. But I think that her mark on ministerial priesthood or understanding of it came because of her intimacy with the eternal high priest. He, you know, when, when the priests read these revelations, it's not Conchita.  The messages I think are very challenging to the clergy because he, and I, and there's a whole chapter in the book on this particular aspect of her spirituality.  And I think if I can find it here, it is really give you an, it'll give you an idea of what, how she challenges priests and it's a challenge to us. So if you may, I'd like to share this with you. I think it's very profound. She says to her son who's, who's going to be ordained a Jesuit priest, give yourself to the Lord with all your heart and do not hold anything back. Forget about creatures and forget especially about yourself. I cannot imagine someone consecrated to God. It was not a saint. One cannot give only half of oneself to God be generous with him. The cross carries him who carries it with love. Love him a great deal. Let him love you back boldly.  Do not measure the height of your calvaries, nor the weight or the dimension of your cross. Forget yourself, your true sorrow being solely that of seeing Jesus offended, insulted and persecuted. All our martyrdoms are like shooting stars before the cross of Jesus. Be a victim for the guilty. Forgive and forget. Complete Jesus' passion in your own heart. I envy you because persecution is a sign of those who are chosen. No wonder St. Ignatius requested it for his sons. Wow. I was getting all kinds of chills just listening to that. I can take that and meditate for a month on just what she's teaching us there. You know what's amazing about saints and it's just so striking is they're always so bold. And their calls are always to such great heights. I am not a saint just to be clear. My wife can attest to that. But I was on a show recently and I said, you know, either you're all in or you're not in at all. And the person who's like, no, no, no, no, you can't say that. And there's been many times where people say you need to be more balanced. I'm thinking, I just don't see that in Jesus. I don't see that. I actually had an argument with my spiritual director, which doesn't sound very humble because I'm probably not. But I said I don't like balance, the word balance, because people always use it to soften or to minimize the great heights that we're called to. I like the phrase, holy imbalance, which means and when you think about balance is like you're standing in a stance where you're not going to fall over. But I think we should be leaning toward heaven. And if we stop, we do fall, but we're running and running is a leaning forward. It's an imbalance. You're falling forward to heaven at this, you know, with great intensity. And wow, does she exemplify that? Yes, very much so.  So a long time ago, three decades ago. And but then I decided I'm either like, there's no middle ground. I'm either all in or I'm just out, you know, we know what the Lord says about mediocrity. And to me, it's just like, it's not pleasing to the Lord. It's it's not the way that we're called to live because there's great joy in discovering authentic intimacy with the Lord and making that a priority and and not, you know, and radiating his heart. I think this is one of my favorite things about Blessed Conchita is that she's really emphasizes the need of the Holy Spirit, the person of the Holy Spirit, for example, in the vision of the cross. Now the cross is, you know, people usually run from it, but saints run to it, right? Yes. They discovered, they've discovered the genius of the cross. And so, but there's something she pointed out in that vision that I'll never forget, and I think it's very profound. She said above the whole cross in this vision was the dove of the Holy Spirit. So the Holy Spirit, the dynamism of the spirit is radiating down upon the cross and all that's happening at Calvary and all that is happening related to the cross. So the Holy Spirit, that dynamism of divine love, that third person of the Holy Trinity is overshadowing us in when we're on the cross. And it's really brings us to the point of love, of divine love, and it's radical call to love crucified. And so I think that when she emphasizes, and there's a whole chapter in the book on the Holy Spirit, she had a retreat. You would love it. I think you would love it. It's a retreat that Bishop Archbishop Martinez gave her called Loving with the Holy Spirit. And I was able to get a copy of that retreat and I have a chapter of it in the book Loving with the Holy Spirit. So he takes her and she's learns from Archbishop Martinez how the most Holy Trinity loves with the Holy Spirit. And to love as Christ has called us to love, we must learn to love with the Holy Spirit. And so he begins the retreat with her on teaching her how has the Holy Spirit loved you. And then she responds in kind to how she can love with the Holy Spirit. It's beautiful. Wonderful. We've got to cut out to a break, but we're talking to Kathleen Beckman. Beautiful holiness, a spiritual journey with blessed conchita to the heart of Jesus. And you can find that at spiritualdirection.com in the shop area. But also you can trusted books can always be found at IWTN's religious catalog. They have a theology team that bets them and makes sure they're all sound and they'll have Kathleen's books there. I'm sure also past books like a guide to spiritual warfare. Family guide. Family guide to spiritual warfare. So check that out and we'll be right back. So let's go to 13. Okay. I'd like to move maybe here. Yeah, that's fine. No worries. Okay. Yep. No, that was awesome. Yeah. So when we come back in, I'll just introduce you and go to three. Does that work? Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Welcome back. This is Dan and Stephanie Burke. You're listening to Dan and Stephanie. Nope. Stop. Reset. Where's the buzzer noise? Welcome back. You're listening to Divine Intimacy Radio. This is Dan and Stephanie Burke and we're on with our friend Kathleen Beckman. Everything she writes, you should read. Everything she recommends you should consume. Everywhere she is, you should go. Well, I agree with all that. That was pretty. You didn't even plan that. Well, yeah, I kind of work that in it. No, we love Kathleen. I'm talking about blessed Conchita Cabrera.  I mean, I think everybody would love to hear about some of the mystical graces that she experienced in this journey. Because it's just always so fascinating to see how the Lord speaks to his saints. And so I'd love to dive into that a little bit. I agree with you. I think that what we've been talking about her vision of the cross. So that was a hallmark that she received. Prior to a grace called the mystical incarnation. And the mystical incarnation is, it was, is a very profound. As you know, when we speak of the interior life, it's very hard to articulate really the graces in the soul of what is happening there. But the reason that I included it in the book, pardon me, because I wanted the book to be practical for everyone. And I wasn't going to focus on graces that I thought were exclusive to her. There are some graces that some saints have that are exclusive to them. And it's, you know, many of us are very interested in that. But I really wanted to give an overview of her life. But everyone who was helping me with the research on blessed Conchita said that you really can't skip over the mystical incarnation. So what is that? So it's a grace of, you know, we're all called to complete transformation in Christ. Paul teaches us that his writings are very clear on, I live now not I, but Christ lives in me. Right. So that, that transformation in Christ through sacramental life, through spirit, the prayer life, and, and the growth in virtue. So he says that I want to quote, this is a capital grace that Conchita received. So I kept asking, is this a grace like St. Teresa of Avala's Transverboration? And the Father of Domenico said, it is like that, but with a more Marian quality to it. It is, it is really a mirror of the Marian mystical grace of birthing Jesus in the world. So we know that our lady's vocation is to birth Jesus into the world. She did that physically and spiritually. Blessed Conchita is called to mirror that, if you will, and having this, this interior transformation in Christ for her, the mystical incarnation was a grace that made that union permanent. So I'll describe it this way. One of the priests who examined this, and it was a long examination at the Vatican said, the grace plunges its roots in baptism and will never, ever and not even in death. And so how did this grace manifest? And how can we relate to it, the baptized? She emphasizes the living of our baptismal priesthood, small P. And so he says, after receiving this capital grace, Conchita lived it in these terms. So here's what we see from that grace. Uniting, transforming, maternal, foundational, Marian, Christological, ecclesial, priestly, eucharistic, redemptive, Trinitarian, paternal, and pneumatic. And so when I asked Father Domenico, can we live this grace? Can we receive it? He said, the grace is open to all Christians because of the grace of their baptism. So when you read the mystical writings of Blessed Conchita, in a way you rediscover, if you will, that by virtue of our baptism in which we have been plunged into the life of the Trinity, the death and life of the Trinity, this union, this transformative union is ours. And so she teaches us the depths and the heights of that baptismal grace. And I think it's a beautiful example. And in the book I give many practical ways of disposing yourself. You know, we can dispose ourselves through growth and virtue, through prayer, through sacramental life, to these kinds of races. Very good. Well, to turn a little bit of a corner, she's of course a very holy woman and is changing the world around her and really obviously the fruits of her family are also great. She didn't neglect her family or this holiness. They were integrated into it. But whenever you advance the kingdom of God, this is a new conceptualization of this. It came to me recently that we simultaneously crush the kingdom of Satan as we advance the kingdom of God. And so I expect that she and her family experienced a lot of spiritual warfare and spiritual battles. Maybe tell us a little bit about that. I'm so glad that you bring that up because obviously because of the ministry that I serve in the church with the exorcism ministry and being on the team, I was curious to see and you don't read it in her writings. A lot of it. Let me correct that. In her writings you will find that she will write about her interior desolation. And at the end of her life, she went through a final test like so many of the saints do. And when her spiritual director asked her, how are you doing? She's on her deathbed. She said, it is if Jesus and I have never met. And she said, and this agony I offer for priests. So yeah, it is if Jesus and I never met. All of this divine intimacy, if you will, all of these graces. And at the end it was like, we never met. She was completely in a desolation. And she said, and I offer this up for priests. And so she does write about her temptations to doubt, her temptations to really, there's a lot of self incrimination and discouragement. And she was extremely doubtful of some of the mystical graces and only believed because her spiritual directors told her that they were authentic. But she did have exterior spiritual battles as well. So I was interested in that. And I asked if I could contact some of her living relatives. And so Father Domenico arranged that. And they wrote back to me some of the things that they bear witness to. And so I'd like to share this with you because I think it's so interesting. And I put this at the last part of the book. And the reason I did was I thought, well, you know, my last book was on spiritual warfare in the family. And this book, what does that have to do with it? But it really, as I said to Charlie McKenney, the great president of Sophia, I said, they really do go together because in the family guide to spiritual warfare, I speak about the sanctification in the domestic church and how holiness of life is a protection from spiritual warfare. And then here we have a wife and a mother and taking care of her domestic church in such a beautiful way, ordinary infused with the extraordinary. And so they really do help complement one another. But I want to read just some of the direct quotes.  Because now she was, now Conchita was living alone. She's older. Her husband has died. Her children are grown. She's a grandmother. And one of the daughters is living with her in her and staying in her room.  At times she felt the devil pulled Conchita out of bed, dragged her around and physically assaulted her. She would have bruises. On one occasion, this is from her family members, on one occasion while she was in a hotel in Rome waiting for a papal audience to get permission for the foundation of the missionaries of the Holy Spirit, she awoke with bruises on her face and a black eye. The grandchildren called Conchita main and short for grandmother. And she would tell them not to consider such strange things. She said, these things belong to me. And she would simply bless them and not give them any attention. So there was an occasion when she walked into, she heard a baby crying in the crib in her house. And when, and so there were several people in the household and when she went into the room, the lights and the, you know, they used to have those lights with the little crystals hanging down and they were all shaking and the light was going on and off. And the baby was screaming and crying. And they said, we saw Conchita go in and quietly bless the child with a sign of the cross and sprinkle holy water and say a prayer and just calmly everything stopped. So, you know, she, she, there's a beautiful witness to the power of, you know, of Christ moving in and through a person who, who really knows how to move in the Holy Spirit. You know, just not to freak people out.  It doesn't mean what Kathleen didn't mean to say was it eliminates spirit to warfare. Or that you won't experience it. Or that you won't experience it, but you will. There are people who are called to specifically suffer. I'm just reconnecting with a biography on Padre Pio course experience some of the same things with the devil. So it's very uncommon, what is common to all believers and I sincerely believe this. Everyone who's all in an authentic disciple of Jesus, what is common is they will experience spirit to warfare. They may not know what it is. They may not understand, for instance, that desolation is spiritual warfare or that often the darkness that we feel is not just us. It's not just me and my melancholy. It's the enemy working through, you know, weaknesses in my own person or even just attacking me whether I have a weakness or not. So yeah, but in that warfare, we can be assured that we are protected by the Lord, that all things are grace, that he allows some things in order to shore us up in holiness and faithfulness to believe more, to hope more, to love more. And he's already triumphed. It's all his. And she demonstrates that.  In Jesus' name, let's pray. Get away from my grandchild. I'm sure that's what's going on inside of her because our power is not in our sort of yelling and screaming, of course, but it's in Jesus' name. It's in the Lord. So we've got to wrap this up. It's been such a delight to be with you, Kathleen.  We're so grateful for your great works with Foundation and Prayer for Priests, which is an apostolate that we endorse and that we recommend to the community of Apostoli VA. If you are looking to hang out with people like Kathleen who are faithful and giving themselves all to the Lord and learning what it means to become a saint, check out apostoliva.org. And with that, we've got to sign off.  Okay, until next time. May the God of peace make you perfect in holiness. May he preserve you whole and entire. Spirit, soul, and body irreproachable at the coming of our Lord. Jesus Christ, amen.


Welcome to the Graham Miller show presented by Buffalo Wildwings. I'm Sam Murray joined now with Stevenson men's soccer head coach Graham Miller and coach eight games into the season quite the turnaround from last year sitting at five and three Just talk about your team's performance through the first half of the season. Yeah overall Just impressed with a young team, you know very young team. We brought in a lot of new players 24 to be exact and you know the guys have really they really are starting to come together Over the over the course of the season so far and just impressed by the way they've They've matured quickly, you know our season is so short to be able to you know win five games at this stage and Be better than obviously the last couple of seasons It's just great for the program in general and it gives the guys some extra confidence Yeah talking about confidence going back to last season score 10 goals all last season you score 22 all last season 177 shots you're sitting at 157 What are those stats those type of numbers do for for the extra boost of confidence? Well the stats certainly sound a lot better than at the end of last year I mean, that's what it is. It's all about confidence when you're a young team It's you want to get on the right foot if you start losing games It can be very tough for a young team mentally to come back from it You know and we found out last year But we had a bit more of an experienced team last year and the guys really did push all the way to the end and You know I credit that team last year for not giving up all the way to the end of the season This young team needed to start off and and we had a tough bump You know to start with with Washington College. It's a game that we outshot them I think we had over 20 shots that game and we lose 2-1 So, you know to get over that and then turn around with Penn College and win 6-0 and You know gave them that that breathed life into the team So right away having that game where we scored six goals and we also scored against Washington We didn't get shut out and and we created so many opportunities We knew the finishing was going to come and and and you've seen that with how many shots we've taken each game and You know the goals to score and I mean, yeah, we're close to three goals a game And and giving up only one goal a game, which is what our goal at the start of the season I talked about it in the preseason You know video that we wanted to be over two goals a game and less than one and that was the difference from last year So far and it's going to get tougher with conference But we're really happy that the guys are are doing the right things against the teams that we should be beating And from the outside looking in and you might think differently But the story of the season to me is kind of capped by that Wilkes game on Saturday It's won three straights the first time won three straights since 2014 and to come from behind down one Nothing less than 10 minutes ago and score two goals to win that game What is that type of game and for a young team to come from behind do moving forward? And that's yeah, that's a great observation because that that really was and you've seen the way we celebrated and I definitely enjoyed that celebration on On Saturday we you know Washington York and Catholic the three losses were all teams that we could have be very good teams Doing well so far and and non-conference and those were the games that were the close games the Penn College the Shenandoah St. Vincent del Val these were games that we were expected to kind of to win on paper And we took care of them But we took care of them and in the fashion that we needed to and got a lot of goals the Wilkes game was back to those Washington, you know Catholic York so for us to then to you know to be down one zero to not give up You know and I was trying to change things and the guys did it without me They didn't they didn't need it they fought back and and two great goals And you know jevon with a great, you know end-swinging free-kick and then Jay to get the goal off a diving header And you've seen how much it meant to him, you know at the end of that game as well So for for a young team to finally get a game that you know, we're even with I would say I think Wilkes is a good Program the coaches did a great job with them. That's huge for us now now We can say okay, we can go into this week and go into conference and we can win those close games Can we win those close games and and I think the guys should really should really be encouraged by that result on Saturday And you're right I think that was the the story of our season so far really that game was a huge one Yeah, you mentioned Jay Smith He leads the team with five goals, but you're getting scoring from all over the field the reigning rookie of the year Tarik Lee he has three goals to assist Dylan Holy from the defense four goals all with his head and then DR Medtar he's has he has five assists just talk about the play all throughout the field Well, you look at those, you know, that's and that's what we want. We've got so so much talent here We get so much depth across the board Even depth in the the goalkeeping position as well But you know across the board we're getting guys scoring goals and that's great You know because you can't always rely on Tarik Lee, you know, we say, you know coming back from rookie of the year People know him now, so he's gonna be probably marked a little bit tighter Jay, you know leading the way, you know as one of our sophomores DR with the assists I mean he he really has you know improved tremendously and with these set pieces and delivery and then Dylan, you know Dylan coming up. I mean not often you get center back this put in four goals and You know, he's a big weapon for us on the long long throw ins and corner kicks So having having a range of different scores means that somebody you don't have to rely on one person And you know, they could be having a bad game You need other people to step up and that's the great thing about our team right now as you know When when everybody's stepping up everybody's doing what they need to do to win the game And some of those are rookie some of them a freshman Diego Guerrero Dale boring and put the ball in the back of the net talk about their play because there are quite a few freshmen getting a Lot of minutes.  You can ease into it. You're playing college I mean, you're an adult you need to come in and playing time and those freshmen have earned their playing time And you know amongst the amongst the upperclassmen and the freshmen are really standing out I tell them to be confident if you're one of the players that gets the opportunity to play You can't be nervous a soccer you got to go out and enjoy it and be confident And you know, we're seeing a lot of freshmen step up because they have to you know We expect them we expect them to step up and it's great to see and you know They shouldn't feel pressure because they are freshmen, but they should want to win I want to do well on the field to get more minutes And one of those freshmen is is a goalkeeper Matt Stelitano He's been giving a lot of minutes between the post is a pair of shutouts talk about his play so far this year Yeah, Matt Matt has done a great job and we've got four great goalkeepers that are all you know competing for playing time Matt and Bobby have been the ones that have been kind of going back and forward Matt has You know been getting the playing time recently And they know that they've got to bring it in practice every time because they've got you know so much competition and that's what we wanted we wanted this team to have depth in every position and It starts with the keepers and Matt is a freshman. You see how brave he is I think they had like three or four corners at the end of the Wilkes game and You know, he just came out and punched the ball like you know three or four times And and that's what we want We want our keepers to take command and and as a freshman that kid has no fear And we want that with all our goalkeepers being able to you know take charge take charge of the defense and you know We and he's learned from his mistake because in the Washington College game where we lose to one and he admitted He should have come off his line for that second goal. He didn't they score we lose the game and you know He didn't regress he learned from it. You know, we talk about it's not losing. It's not you know We're learning from our mistakes. It's a learning experience and that's what non-conference is build for conference play Let's let's learn from our mistakes and the the freshman are buying into that and they are doing that what they need to do Yeah, looking forward to the second half of the season conference play starts on Saturday You have Arcadia and then it doesn't get easy you host number one defending national champion messiah on Wednesday And then that following Saturday hit the road for 20th ranked like homing talk about the conference play And where you want to see your team go from here? Well, you know, the conference is a tough conference The Mac has had a you know, really tough conference for a while and men's soccer We've got to you know, we got to get into the playoffs We haven't been in the Mac playoffs yet as a program from Stevenson men's soccer So our goal is to get into the playoffs and finish as high as possible You know, we talked to the guys at the start of the year. We we want to get in the Mac playoffs That's one of our goals and we want to finish as high as possible So regardless if we're playing, you know, Arcadia messiah like homing the first week of the last week It's a game. We got it. It's a conference game. We got to get up for it We're excited for Arcadia on Saturday. We're not gonna You know, and we're not gonna look ahead to messiah like homing We have to win, you know, the game against Arcadia if we want to, you know, be in the top five So we're excited. We're excited to get get rolling with conference. The guys are You know, just just ready. I think we're ready to take that next step for our program And that's to to reach the Mac playoffs. Well coach, we wish you the best of luck and hopefully We sit in here previewing that Mac Mac Commonwealth playoffs. I hope so for head coach Graham Miller I'm Sam Murray and this has been the Graham Miller show


If depression has taught me one thing through all these years, it is that the smallest gesture can save a life. The smallest gesture. Do you ever get the feeling, like the sense that I hold very little value, that I don't make that much of an impact? That if I stayed in bed today and didn't engage in the world at all or my relationships with the people around me, my community, I don't even say hi to the person at Starbucks. Would the world be that different? Would the world be that different? Would it be better? Would it be worse? Would it be the same? What impact do I make? Even we think that we're lost in this grayness of people too because we're inside the status quo in the box so much because we need to eat, we need to pay our rent in our mortgage, we need to raise our kids, we need to have a strict routine that I'm not even the black sheep in the world. There's so much uniqueness out there, I don't even stick out.  I got depression and anxiety, give me something cool. You know what I mean? What's my value? Not even purpose, but what value do I bring to other people? What value do I even bring to the world as a whole if you want to go that far? I get that feeling sometimes, man. I upload a video here and there. Come on, what am I doing here? I've been on YouTube a long time. A few thousand people listen to the podcast, a few thousand people sometimes listen to the episodes on YouTube. You know, could I make a bigger impact? Is this even worth it? I get emails every day, but I don't get a thousand emails of people thanking me. I don't know. It feels like just a drop in the ocean. It feels like a drop in the ocean. But what if I told you that this guy, whatever faith you're part of, doesn't matter if you're an atheist, what you believe. Let's just say this guy said something a few thousand years ago and some people wrote it down. And it sounds pretty cool to me. You are the salt of the earth. Now as a child going to church every Sunday, I didn't know what was going on. No child does. My parents wanted to go.  You can't make decisions for yourself. You go where your parents go. Laugh to my sister because she's like the whole time when I was a kid, I thought the priest was Jesus. I didn't know who Jesus was. The guy on the altar with the sash and the gold was this Jesus guy.  Now this quote didn't say, I wonder how it could change. If someone wrote down this and said, you are the salt of the earth only until you make such and such an impact and change 10,000 lives. No, you are the salty of the earth, meaning you give the flavor to existence itself. You give the taste and the flavor to life. That's what humans do. What would I rather do?  That's my whole life.  Seagulls flying all over the place but you get used to them. I have 10 people, 10 people that I get to chat with, share stories with, eat with, celebrate with. People are the flavor. People are the salt of the earth.  Even this morning, got up at 5 a.m. and I slept terribly last night and great time to do a video. I slept terribly. Got up at 5 to go to the bathroom and automatically I'm like, oh, what's for breakfast? You know, like at 5 a.m., what am I going to eat for breakfast? Oh, it's always on the mind. Breakfast is the tough one for me. And I'm like, oh, I think there's some frozen guac in the fridge so I'll put down some toast on the eggs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm half asleep, open the fridge. Ah, it's cold. It hits me in the face. There's no light in this freezer and I'm feeling around it because I knew they were in the door and I pick out the guac and set it aside. And it thaws for the morning. And Vanessa, she makes me breakfast in the morning and beautiful guac. Edamame from last night, two over that pepper. Beautiful eggs with onion, garlic. And as an asshole, I say, did you salt it? No, I didn't say it like that. I didn't ask it like that. I'm like, did you add salt? So I don't over salt it. She's like, of course I added salt. I'm Italian. Cooking past as Italian, you make sure that that water that you're boiling those noodles in, that past in, is ocean salty. It's got to be ocean salty. It'll change the dish. And when there's salt in those meals, man, it expands the flavor of everything in there. It lightens up everything that was in that dish. As a family growing up, we didn't salt anything. We didn't flavor anything. I discovered salt about three years ago when I went on the carnivore diet and in order for the steak to have more flavor, I need to salt that. When you go on different kinds of diets that aren't full of either processed things, but even grains, they have a lot of sodium in them. If you go on a strict veggie diet and don't add salt or anything and just meat, you're going to be low in sodium, migraines may come, headaches may come. Salt, sodium is the life force of you and how your muscles contract and the hydration within you. You can dehydrate yourself by drinking too much water because you just flush out all the sodium in your body. When you sweat, I just licked myself for those on the podcast, you should be salty. You are salt and water, man. You are the salt of the earth, meaning you don't realize your value. You don't know the impact you're making. Exactly. You don't. In hindsight, you will. You don't know the impact you've even made. There are people in high school, people at your old job, they still think of you, I guarantee it. I guarantee it. And if there's one thing I've learned is that this whole existence, God forbid, God loving that I'd live 80 plus 100, that if I impact one person and made their life easier, more enjoyable, made the world a better place for them, then I added flavor. Just a sprinkle of salt sometimes is enough to add flavor to the dish. It's unlike a drop in the ocean, that you are the salt of the earth, meaning just a sprinkle. Something so small can make such a difference. That's like, you know, you can move mountains with just the faith of a mustard seed. Something so small makes such a difference as it grows. A pinch of salt, such a difference to add flavor. You are the salt of the earth and when that voice comes in and says, you're not doing anything, you're not making a difference, they'll forget you, they'll forget you. What's this all about? What's the point? Why bother? You got sodium in you. You got sodium. And as long as you're breathing and as long as you're sweating out that salt, as long as you can contract these muscles, that means you got salt in you, brother. And sisters. And that means you're very much alive. If you haven't salted your food like me until 2020, start salting now. If you don't think you've been adding flavor to the world and to other people and lightening up others' people's days or saying hi to the barista or doing just such small things, the smallest pinch can make the biggest impact. The mustard seed grows so high you can move mountains with it.  The smallest gesture doesn't have to be a pumpkin seed. It doesn't have to be an avocado pit, a mustard seed and a speck of salt. You are the salt of the earth, my friends. I hope you don't forget it. I'll see you next time. All the links are in the description below to help you on your journeys, anxiety courses for you, a free six-part video series, Zoom calls with me every month to chat and practice our meditation for me to kick you out of bed and motivate you a little bit because you're an awesome human being. I hope you know it. I hope you can see the good within yourself this week and carry that with you until I see you next Monday. Also, don't forget that there's a link in the description because this is enough for some people but for most it's not enough.  It wasn't enough for me to look at therapists on YouTube. It wasn't enough for me to get motivated by David Goggins. It wasn't enough for me to see a motivational speech. It's not enough. If you want to get well in the spirit and in the flesh and in your mind, I went to therapy. I went to therapy. I'm still in therapy. That's right. You get a discount if you just want to try online therapy. There's people that you trust on there. I have a meditation teacher as well as a therapist and I have my Christian spiritual guide as well that I use and I know what you're thinking maybe because I think it really, my dad didn't need this. My mom didn't need this. Previous generations didn't need this. I'm such a sensitive soul that God needs therapy and I got to talk to someone about my feelings and I'm thinking about Christ in the afterlife and all these physical sensations and what I'm feeling around me and energies and what the fuck?  Is it because I'm not busy enough? Is it because I'm not strong enough? Is it because I'm weak? Is it because I'm some kind of beta male? Bullshit to all of it. Everyone's different, man. And the people that needed it back then didn't get it because there was stigma. They weren't allowed and there weren't resources. There's resources today. So try the link in the description. Try my video series which I promise I'll get to you. Join my email list by joining that video series because I'd love to chat to you that way. Join Patreon, whatever you want. I hope you're good in mind, body and spirit, my friends. God bless you and we'll see you next week. I look forward to seeing you in the comments as well. Let's chat. If you think you're salty, baby, write a comment. I'll convince you otherwise.


I would like to thank the special representative on behalf of all of you for a very eloquent presentation of the president to the post-2015. I think many of us, like Mr. Sutherland, don't understand the amount of time and effort that is being placed in trying to establish that some other migrants and migration contribute to development. They are, in many ways, as he was saying, the most important development agent. And I'd like to emphasize that he gave to process the whole advance between the first high-level dialogue in 2007-2013, the role that the seven global fora of migration and development played with number eight coming up in Turkey. I think he also reminded us very clearly of the problem of pushing more people into the hands of smugglers. I did a little video this morning for the Rome Ministerial Conference that starts tomorrow on the cartoon process. And I quoted Italian minister Angelina Alfano, who referred to smugglers as the travel agents of death. I think that's a good way to look at it. I think we have to do much more to see that these people are identified, arrested and prosecuted. So I think he's given us a very good backdrop showing how development also helps us to change the migration narrative to a more positive and balanced one that shows historically that migration has been overwhelmingly positive and how people are treated ends up very much on the same note as we had from Ms. Gaccia-Michel earlier today is the way in which we welcome and treat people that makes the difference. And I like the closing quote from Pope Francis. So I hope that, Peter, if you're still on the line, I hope you'll soon get better. Take care of yourself. And thank you so much for your contribution. I hope that flu doesn't get you any further down. Thank you so much. I think we need to move right along with given the time to introduce the next speaker on my left, Dr. Mary Henry Hesse Afgana, who's a member of the African panel of the Ys. She is also in Ghana, the vice chairperson of the National Development Planning Commission. She's also a member of the country's board of the Center for Policy Analysts, a commissioner of the Public Utilities Regulatory Commission, a commissioner of the HIV AIDS Commission and Governments in Africa, and a member of the Board of Trustees of the Monetary Fund for Technical Cooperation of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights. So if I may, Madam, you have the floor. Thank you.


Hello people of the internet, my name is Johnny and welcome back to Five Nights at Freddy's Help Wanted, the non-VR edition. Honestly, this could be the last episode, which is kind of sad. I've really been enjoying this. But we're going by so fast because we don't have to beat any of the levels because we've already done that in the VR edition. So last episode, well last last episode, we did all of these, all the normal mode, and then last episode we went through all of the nightmare modes, including Pizza Party, where we found a brand new teaser for the next game. FNAF 9, FNAF VR 2, whatever you want to call it, we saw a teaser for that. And now, today, episode 3, we'll be looking at the Curse of Dreadbear, not in VR. I have not actually seen anything about this. Also, I saw, I think I might have been in Doc this video, that Glitchtrap is now over, over there. So, I just want to double check to see if that's true. We're not going to spend too much time on it because we have already seen Glitchtrap in the VR edition, which was super fun. I don't think he was part of the, yeah, see, he's over there now. No clue why. I don't think we got him in the Easter Eggs video because he wasn't in the game at that point. I got so many comments, we're just like, you forgot Glitchtrap on the hill. He wasn't in the game yet, guys. Enough with the venting, let's get into the minigame. Can you not click space anymore? I was doing that last episode and I was like, why am I doing that? I feel like, and I said this in last last episode as well, is that this, well, now that I know where they are, it's going to be a lot easier. But the plush baby minigames are a lot harder in non-VR just because you don't have as much visual range as you do in VR. So, yeah, it's definitely a lot easier. See, I've already lost them. It's definitely a lot easier in VR. Oh my God, where are you? Wait. We're just going to chill out for a little bit. Maybe they haven't spawned in. No, they've spawned in. Oh my God. Where? Why is your mass sideways? And why did- I'm sorry, what did you just say? Guess who? I love that game. Oh! Alright, we can see this area now. Hey Grim Foxy. Oh my God, you look so good. Can I- you can't actually see it. Alright, you can see it if you throw that pumpkin away. But you can see the gravestone. The models look so much better. And I think I said this, it's just because they don't have to handle being in VR anymore. But this game, hi. This game is- it runs a lot better in- We'll give it one more try. It runs a lot better on the PC, but it's so much more enjoyable in VR. So, um, those are the pros and cons of it. It runs better, but it's not as fun and it's not as scary. Or it doesn't run as good, it still runs very good. Um, but it's just- it's not as fun or scary. Also, did you see that this game was nominated for VR Game of the Year on Steam? Absolutely incredible. Uh, I freaking- I've lost them again. Jesus Christ. Hey. Yeah. Crazy that this game got voted or nominated for VR Game of the Year on Steam. Hi. Really hope it wins. Then again, it's going up against some pretty top-notch games like Beat Saber and, um, Borderlands 3 VR. So, hope- oh, hey. Let's hope, because this is a really, really good game. I love it a lot. Okay, where- Hi, Jesus. Ugh. I have my volume turned down for this game, which is good and bad. Hey. Because, one, it's easier on my use. But two, I don't know how loud it is for you guys. So, it might be pretty loud. I'm sorry about that, but that's the game's fault. Hey, I see you. Uh, because it shows to be loud. Okay, where- oh, hey, wait, I freaking saw that. Okay, what time is it? It's two. Really? It's only two? Oh, hey. Hey. And I heard you running out this way. Right? Oh, Jesus. Stop. It's so loud. Why did they decide to make it so loud? I get it. They want to be scary. Uh, I just realized I really want to play Trick or Treat. I just remembered about that game, and I really want to play it. Okay, where is- Hi. Oh, God. Wait. Oh, saw you. Okay, is that you? Hey. I think- oh, Foxy. Okay. Gone off again right there. Let's chill out a little bit. Let the battery reset. Also, can I have a recharging battery? That would be great for my Oculus controllers. Hi. I didn't actually know that you could be in that position. Hey. Uh, okay. Hey. I want to see what the bone looks like, and I want- hi. And I want to see how you throw the- throw the dots, hey. So, we should be able to hopefully see the bone in all its beauty in non-VR. Uh, we might actually do it with this minigame, because it's five. We're not doing too bad. Actually, our battery's pretty low. Stop it. There we go. My battery's still going down. Kind of weird.  There we go. So, um, I wonder if- I don't know if it's easier or harder. Oh, they give you the fourth dart. You don't have to reach over down under the desk. Um, I don't know if it's easier or harder to throw the dots in VR. Or in non-VR, sorry. What the heck? What did it bounce off of? So, let me look there. Yeah. Uh, I mean I should know I'm the expert at throwing these dots in VR, aren't I guys? Uh, I don't know. I feel like it's a little bit- just a teeny bit. Did I have you? I don't think I had you. I'm gonna eat it. I think it's a little bit more harder. Just because you can't really tell. Like, you can throw it by yourself and you know exactly where it's gonna go. Uh, well, we got Dreadbear rising by the lake. We're getting all of the easter eggs, aren't we? Uh, let's trap over there. No. Okay, so you eat sets after each minigame. Dreadbear, we don't need to, um, do that- oh. The great and annoying part about Curse of Dreadbear is that there's so many different minigames. Like, it's a whole variety. Alright, let's check out Pirate Ride. Apparently, there's an easter egg in here. You can go down like a secret elevator. I think Fusion was trying to do that in one of his videos, so maybe we'll do that. Thinking about it now, we might have to split this up into two episodes. I kinda don't want to, but we might have to. Hey. Ooh. Again, I don't know if this is gonna be harder. Hey, thank you, matey. Let's try and get 5k or more. Yup. Ah, thank you, Bunko. Did they change this? I don't remember these blue sparks being there. I just remember the- the stars. There's a jumpscare here, I know that. Ah! Okay. Boom. And apparently that one spins. Uh, go, go, go. Get- get nice. Got all them. Apparently that cloud spins now. I don't think it's spun the last time. Let's get all them. Again, we want that new high score. Uh, nice. Uh, no Helby as well. We want to stay on the lookout for Helby. So we can get that alternate move. So we can get more points. You know? Hi. Alright, this is the, uh, storm section. Uh, I thought that one spun as well. Oh yeah, it does. It's weird that some of them spin- spin and some of them don't. I think- is that bucket only there? Or that barrel only there for the bonus round? It might be. Don't quite remember. The sad part is, it's been kind of a long time since I've played this game. Because I think I played it last. When I played through, hey. So I think we want you pointing the other way. Yeah, I haven't played this in a long time. Come on Helby, come on. Do a thing, do a thing, man. Oh no, bonus round. Oh yeah, so you do get extra, uh, bails for the bonus round. Uh, yeah, we want you pointing that way. Come on. Nice. And then we go off route, right? I think so? Uh, maybe? Did I do something wrong? Oh no, I didn't. Nice. Um, oh, I think we got this way. I think we already got this way. Oops. Not my fault. That's just, uh, what Helby decided he wanted to do. Uh, there's every choice out here, right? Yep. It looks like that was it. Did they decrease the amount of targets in this secret area? Also, why they're cameras? I think that, I feel like they decreased the amount of targets. Right, get that one all the way back. Nice. 3,200 knots. Okay, what's up next? Boop, boop, boop, boop, boop. Alright, let's close that before he gets to us, actually. Uh, hey, hey, hey. Nice. Doing pretty good. And we are back. Where are we? Okay, get them. Oh, we're out here. We could probably beat it. Beat the high score, maybe. Boop, you'll take the pulse. I don't know if I have no clue where those are going. Oh, no, spooky cracking. Was that sound always there? And was that my dog Barking, or was that in the game? I don't know. Hey, what's up, boys? Better not be doing anything frisky down here. Keep my eye on you two. Ghost Pirates. Okay, get one of those crabs. Boops. Ooh, help me again. Boops.  Uh, yeah, we want you putting out my help. Uh, get that crab. I feel like there's a lot more targets than there were originally. Uh, get them nice. Did we get all of them again? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, help me. Oh, did we get it? I don't think we got it. Oh, no, we did get it. Right? Yes. Did we get this way? I don't know. Okay, we're definitely going to beat all high score. We are definitely, definitely going to beat all high score. Can I reach that? Maybe if I would stop moving. Uh, oh, no, I missed one. Okay, can I, can I, can I close, can I close?  I can't hit that now. I can't hit that. Great. Awesome. Uh, Jacko, Jacko Chico's out here. What are you doing? Uh, okay. Nice. So we're past 5k. We're nearly at 6k now. Uh, so what is this? Like a problem, I guess? Hey, can I reach that? Yes, I can. Let's get you actually. Let's get, let's get the ones closest to us. Uh, nice. Made that. What's up back here? Oh, yeah. So it is like a problem. That's neat. So where am I now? I don't think I've gone this way. Where am I, where am I being taken? I'm in the dark. I don't like being in the... I'm back at the beginning. What? I think if you get 10k, you get killed. So I don't know. Yeah, let's just get as many points as we can. This is, uh, this is gonna take... This is gonna take a long time. I might actually... Can I redo these? Oh, my God. No way. I didn't know I was able to redo all this. Okay, get those. Get the nice bonus round. We are going to get so many points. Did I get that? I think I got everything. We have nearly doubled our score. Oh, my God. This isn't safe. Yeah, I think I saw a video that if you get a perfect score of 10k, you just, you get killed by Foxy. So, we can try that. See what, uh, see what Captain Foxy's jumpscare is like. Bonus round. I can't reach it with the signs on the way. Oh, did I get it? I don't know if I got it. I'm guessing I did, and it went back down. I don't think it would be fair if it went up and then back down. Then again, it's Steel Wall. I never know what they're gonna do. I wonder if I can find a healthy again and just keep going back around. I'm sure they made it so you can, but... I don't know. Again, it's Steel Wall. They do what they want. Uh, I also don't know if this is easier or harder. Maybe it'll get, maybe a little bit easier. So, it's just because your hands aren't constantly like moving around like it is in VR. Also, the tracking can be a bit, uh, not on point in VR. Did I get off the targets already? Is that it? I did. Let's see if this tentacles are really hard to hit. Can I get those? How did I get all them? Again, we are doing so, so well. Oh, I don't think I did. I think I missed one. Oh, got it. I always forget about that. I always forget about that last target there. Oh, I like how my gun can just phase through the core. That's great. Hey, what's up? Okay, so we're back down here. Still keeping my eye on you two. Don't think you're ever out of sight of me, because you can't escape. You can never escape. I'm always wondering. Uh, is Helby here? No, Helby's not here. So you can't just keep going back around. I guess that's a nice touch. Uh, let's get these, because they go away. That's what I was just about to say. Oh! Oh, so what is this, like, bonus points? I wonder if it's because... Oh, hey, get that. I'll get you. So I'm now at... 10,400? What is it? What is it? Reset. Yay! Thanks, man. Alright, so 10,400. Foxy, how did I do? Can't hit those again. Let's see. That's great. You can see that he wasn't there, so he was waiting. He was waiting.  But that's fun. I really like that. Whoa. I really like that many games. Now, let's just do corn maze right now. We might as well go in order so we don't forget things. Uh, yeah, yeah. Waz, that's what I was expecting. My voice, I think it's actually going. I think it's actually going. Because of the videos yesterday, the two videos that I put up yesterday. Oh my God. Actually, I think this is going to be harder. I do think this is going to be harder because you can't turn your head as fast. I don't know if there's a sensitivity controls that you can mess around with. Also, I saw a panel that I don't think was over there last time. So, I wonder if they put in more panels. I don't remember this being here. Oh. I kind of want to see what he looks like first. Who's going out this way? What does he look like? Let's see. Oh my God. Terrifying as always. Terrifying as always, Grim Foxy. Okay, so he still disappears. So, again, I think this is going to be a lot more difficult. Now, the question is, do we escape normally or do we try to get to the basement? The cellar? Hey, crows. Ah! Ah! Ah! Hi. Oh. So, what do they alert him to your location?  Yeah. I am an expert at this minigame. Wait, are there two orange pumpkin keys? Oh no, I remember this happening last time. And one of my attempts to get to the basement is that it showed more than one of the same key. Sugar. Is he now loaded to your location when you get a key? Bruh! How does he not see me? Oh my God, that tight squeeze. I feel like they made his respawn time shorter. I swear he used to have loads more time. Yeah, see, it's gone now. I swear I gave you lots more time. I might just try to escape normally. He's out that way. So, let's go back to this panel. See me? See me? Come on. Look at that. That's so creepy, but it's so much more creepier in VR, trust me. If you have a headset, buy this game. And if you don't buy this game, well, if you don't buy this game, what's wrong with you? But if you don't have a headset, still buy the game. It's a really good game. It's really well made. I honestly think it's one of the best looking FNAF games. One of, if not the best looking. Again, it's crazy that they managed to do this, to create a non-VR version of a VR game and have it be absolutely incredible. Also, as you can see, the coins now load at the bottom of your screen instead of on your flashlight. Wait, I see. I don't want to go too far away from this panel. Because again, that's one of... No! No! Great jumpscare still. Yeah, that's fine. We gave it a try. I do think this game is a lot more harder. This game in particular, Corn Maze, is a lot harder in the non-VR version than it is in VR. By the way, I just... I always have a habit of looking over here just to see whether or not we do get the pirate ship.  So, let's try Hallway. It may seem like I'm going a little bit fast, but that's because I want to try... I want to try all of these in one episode, but honestly, we might have to squeeze it down into two. Oh God. This game, this game in particular, was pretty hard. I'm not going to lie, pretty scary as well. You guys saw it, and when I first played it, I was screaming so hard when Freddy was just like sneaking up behind you. God, it was terrifying. I thought these were two... two bonnies here. It's not, though. So, the trick with Foxy... Do I remember... Oh, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Get, get, get, get, get, get, get, get. Okay, so Freddy's active. Now, hey, look, it's the Foxy plushie. Can I pick it up? Nope, okay. Uh, yeah, so Freddy is now active, which means he just got a freakin' legged. Um, I don't think Foxy appears as often... as often as he does when Freddy is active, but then again, I don't know. Oh god, footy's right there. Jesus. Go Chica, go Chica, go. Yeah, this is a good minigame, not to lie. I enjoyed it quite a bit when I first played it, and I still enjoy it now. I think it's not as, you know, enjoyable in the non-VR version, but that goes for the most of these minigames. Because it was built for VR, therefore it will have the best experience. You'll have the best experience playing it in VR. It just, it makes sense. Oh god, I gotta go. I gotta go. Can you go? I gotta go. Can you go? Cause I gotta go. My god, how long is this hallway? I don't think there's any doors here. Oh no, there is. Don't open these doors. I said don't. I think this is the end of the hallway. It should be. Cause I'm not seeing any more windows. There's the door. Yes. Now, if you take a gander, wait. Will we always going in from this side of the bedroom by feeling that we entered from the other side? But okay. You can actually see Chica plush right here. Arnie plush is over there. I think Fox is over there. And then Freddy is right there. That was one of the Easter eggs we were supposed to get in the Easter eggs video, but we did not. Chica and Bonnie are sitting next to their corresponding doors, which doors they attack from in both FNAF 1 and the 4th game. Foxy is obviously in the closet. Freddy is obviously on the bed. Boy, I love having Freddy on the bed. Ooh, what is this? Buccaneer bounty. Nice. Let's eat it. Honestly, I kind of want to see what it's me. Easter egg looks like not in VR, but that took way too long to get and I don't feel like doing it again. I want to be honest. So yeah, there's that. Still super proud of what we accomplished with that Easter egg video. It still blows me away how supportive you guys were and still are of that video. By the way, pirate ship yet again. I always have the reflex to just instantly look around for new secrets. I don't know if it's because of the Easter eggs video or if it's just because I want to see new content because they said Easter eggs. They want actually not Easter eggs. They said secrets. More secrets in this big update. Still on that lookout, you know? So far, that teaser and the elevator in Pirate Ride. It's the only thing we know of. But who knows? Maybe they did add more stuff. Again, I feel like I'm super far back. Let's just instantly throw that. So, Bonnie Hand, BB Head, Freddy Hand, Endo Head. So I instantly forget everything. Not going to lie. I need you. This game is a lot easier. I'm saying it right now. It's a lot easier.  I need Endo Head and BB Head. So let's get them. Do I need that Endo Foot? Maybe? No, I did not.  I need Springtrap's Ear. Why not? Do I need? Yes, I do need that. Um, jeez. Do I need this? Probably not. No, I don't. At least I don't think I do. Again, you can just stockpile things. Get the Ear. Very nice. Do I need this? Uh, sure, why not? Nice, I did it. Do I need this? No, but I know for a fact I need that. I said I need that. Um, and then let's just put random things in. Okay, cool. What did we get? I feel like we did pretty well. 60%. I'm pretty sure that's still passing. Hey, actually we see Mango. Hey, Mango. I see you up there. I don't think I could know. Push. I actually got it. I thought 60 was passing. I thought 60 was passing. I swear it was. Maybe they changed the requirements. That game, I'm telling you right now, is a lot easier. Okay, I think it's a lot easier. So, moving on. Trick or treat. Kind of want to save that. Kind of want to save that for the big finale. Um, and I do think we'll be able to get this all done in one video. We'll do night 03 for the final section of minigames and then, yeah. So, uh, hand crank. How do I crank? How do I crank? What is up, Mark? Cricket crew. Cricket crew. Today we're back with some more FNAF help wanted. I think I did that in the normal FNAF VR help wanted video as well. It's weird that the crank's over here now. I don't know why they didn't put it where it was. Wait. Did they change? Wait. Uh, a second. I did. Oh no. It's just a lot more compact. That's what it is. Alright, I gotta remember how to do this. Oh no. Oh no. I already hate this. So, wait, how do I? Wait, no. Use. Oh, that makes sense, gotcha. Um. Hey, come on. Ugh, where'd it go? I don't think I like this as much, controlling, um, uh, I'm blanking. Um, who's three, so one, two, three, so here. Yeah, I don't like this as much. Uh, so then red is what? There? No, it's there. Ugh, yeah, that's annoying. Uh, then that is there. And then we need the dark blue all the way, right? There, like that's, that's pretty hard to hit. Oh, okay, we are not gonna be able to do this. Oh my God. So, what is that? Is that this one? This one goes there, and then this, it's so weird to navigate with WASD on this. I'm, I'm not even joking. Uh, then we need like the magenta one. I think it's, I think it's this one. Wait, no it's, yeah, no, this one goes there, and then this purple one goes there, and then this one goes there. Okay, so, let's get these now.  So, um, oh no, no, no, no, we did that. So, now comes my least favorite part, you can't even freaking pick it up, that's great. Oh, oh, this is weird. So, oh God, I need it going super fast.  Um, so we need it like this. Is that, that's right, right? I think that's right. I think that's right, get me out of here. Get, get, get, go. I think that's right. That's not right. That is right! Yes! Yes! If only it was that easy. In normal VR. Oh my God. Um, definitely a lot easier in normal VR. Just, just saying it that way. Okay. Nope. I feel like they've decreased the amount of the chance that you can get the, uh, high. Oh my God. No, I wanted, oh my God. I can reach from so far away. Oh no, I can't reach it there. Uh, I feel like they decreased the chances of getting the, of the clown poster, because I feel like we should have gotten it a lot more. Still, whoa, whoa. Are you trying to hide something? Maybe you made a mistake. Maybe that, it means Drago isn't supposed to be there. I'm sure it was though, because it makes sense. You know, Gordon Freddy's not here.  Gordon Freddy's not here because she's in Custom Night. It makes sense. Um, I should probably do an update video on the FNAF AR email. So, this is, I just, I don't remember how to play. I don't remember how to play this. Oh no, I do, I do. Uh, what's that? Oh, it's just a fire extinguisher. Of course, because why not? Okay, let's throw all that, never mind. Oh, no, wait, that's just, that's him activating, okay. So, with Foxy, I just, I shine the light at you whenever you're about to round at me. Is it now? I see Bonnie. Pop. No Chica. Hi, that's definitely when I have to shock you. Geez. Um, I don't see Dredbear, but I'm just going to do it.  Chica, I hit it. Jesus. Um, yeah, we're just shocking there. Try and protect ourselves at least a little bit from Dredbear. I don't think I'm going to be able to do this just because I forget entirely what to do. Oh, wait, you can't flash him when he's already been flashed. Big Yikes. Oh my God, how long does this take to reset? What, did they freaking up the timer on that crap? Oh my God, that was hiroshish. Hiroshishish. Um, sorry, I'm just, I'm completely lost. Hi, Chica. Uh, Frick you, Foxy. Frick Foxy, bro. Uh, I think, I have no clue where he is. Kitchen, maybe?  Who is that? Is that Bonnie? Mumbo jumboing? Watch mojoing? Sure, we'll do that, why not? Uh, Christ, who is that? So, we can stop. So, I only have two flashes left. So, actually wait, if I, um, I thought I still had time with you.  None is completely my fault. One more try, one more try. Um, just cause I kind of remember what to do now. And then we're gonna end the video off with trick or treat. Um, my favorite minigame in this, in Ghost of January, honestly. I love it a lot. What do you say again? You don't say anything. So why do you call? Can't throw that. I can't even pick up the fire extinguisher. No clue why I can't. Okay, now that we remember what we're doing. Okay, like, it shows you off the bat that his eyes emit some light that you can detect on the cameras. But you can't. I mean, you can, but it's incredibly hard to find him. You know? Uh, I was explaining something, Foxy. Okay, well, we get the point. We get the point, guys. We get the point. Okay, so up next, right? Up next is trick or treat. The final one. I'm super excited for this. I'm really excited for this. So I'm guessing, yeah. I'm guessing we just peel through the windows with the right click. Yeah. Oh. Uh, is this hard or difficult? Uh, I don't know. I really don't know. I feel like you're a lot farther back, so you can see, like, all the way back there. Originally, in VR, you can't normally. Okay, so, bonny. I think it might just be a little bit more difficult, because you have to, um... There's this weird delay. There's this weird delay. Uh, so it's either Freddy or Bonnie. I've got to cough again. Great. It's not a bad cough. I just don't like coughing in the video. Uh, again, it's because I've been speaking so much. I did two videos yesterday. Um, and now I'm doing this one. Basically, hi, God. I forgot how amazing these models were. I'm sorry. Um, normally my voice isn't too bad after recording. Um, I was pretty calm.  Uh, it's Bonnie. No, it's not. No, it's Bonnie. Yeah, it's Bonnie. He's the only one that's gonna be there in time. Um, normally I'm fine after recording videos. Like, my voice isn't that... Well, I wonder who it could be. Wow, it's Bonnie who would have guessed. I thought he was gonna kill me. Up next, round two. Uh, yeah, normally I'm fine. I don't know why my voice is going. Because I like... I like these videos on FNAF 1 and non-VR because they're nice and chill. You know, they're nice and chill. We know what we're doing. It's nice and calm. No one's chasing us around in VR. Koff Koff Foxy. Um... Okay, so it's either Bonnie or Freddy. Oh, now it's just Bonnie again. Uh, oh now it's freaking no one. Great. Uh, oh no, it's gonna be Chica. She's the only one that... Uh... Hey. Okay, Mango goes away a lot faster than she used to. He, she used to. So Freddy? Wait, what? Time has nearly ran out and everyone's in a spot. So it's gotta be Freddy. Ah man, they made this game so much easier.  But they made it so much easier. Because everyone didn't... Maybe it's a glitch. I don't know. It's probably, I hope it's a glitch. Uh, cause that was fun. The cool thing about this minigame is that you really had to pay attention. But now everyone's in a proper place until like the final two seconds where someone, where just one more person moves. You know? Uh... God, Foxy, you're terrifying. Look at that. Uh, so who is moving around? Just Bonnie, just Bonnie. Yeah, Mango goes away a lot faster. Are you about to move?   Or do you want to move me, buckaroo? No, don't, don't move my buckaroo. I just want to know if you are going to move. But you know, like my goodness. So, it's not a balloon, boy. Hey. Foxy, BB. So it could be Chico or Bonnie. Oh, I mean, Chico or Freddy, and it's Freddy. Because I saw Chico last second. Hey, look at that. He's not phasing through the door. Hey, what's up, bro? I also don't remember if you could take a mask off last time. I don't remember if you could. I just like knocking on the door. So, is that it? Is that really it? I think that might be it. I think that might be it. Pirate ship? Nope. Nothing. No dreadbearer? Nothing. Okay. Well, I think that's it. Until they add nightmare modes to this game. To curse of dreadbearer. That's it. That's it. It really makes us sad. Um, actually, let's go to the title. Let's see what the title's like. Because it's different. It's, uh... Yeah, the projector on the barn. Yeah, so scrap chica is still over there. Oh no, they changed it to withered chica. Scott, Scott. Why did, why, why did you change it? Guys, why did, why did they change it? Why, why did it change? Why do we think it changed, huh? Yeah, that's definitely withered chica. They changed it. It was scrap chica. Why did they change it to withered? Maybe they weren't supposed to use that model just yet. Maybe that's something we'll find out in a future update. Or maybe even the next game. But that is it for FNAF Help Wanted on the PC. Very, very good game. Very good game. I'm not even joking. I enjoyed this a lot. And like I said, uh, in the last two videos, it's a great way for people that don't own a headset to play, help want it. Of course, there are a few things you can't do. Primarily, primarily, you can't use the, um... Can't use the button. Well, I would show you it, but I just kinda... Kinda lost my basket of butters. Yeah, you can't press the button. You also can't. I think... Wait. Can you take this with you? Ah, I can. I was super confused. Um, you can't... Get the C-Strike. You can't get the C-Strike. So, uh, does that... Where did he go? I did not give him permission to leave. See, under the... I think he's under... Uh, it's still no showtime, by the way. Sorry, I keep getting distracted. Uh, go away. Yeah, this is it. Honestly, I think we got done a lot of stuff. Originally, I was going to make a whole new save file and just play through the entire game again, but honestly, I'm super happy that I didn't do that. Not only because I would have lost all of my progress, and there was no way that I'm going to be doing FNAF 195 and FNAF 395 on the PC. Honestly, those things are just... Absolutely insane. I don't think they are even... Remotely possible. I'm just getting into the possible.  I just found out that it's talking about the wheel. You look at them with the mouse wheel. Hey, Freddy, you looking good? Um, but yeah, this is it. I keep saying it. Honestly, I'm not stopping because I just... I don't want to end up having a lot of fun.  Um, but yeah, this is so, so fun. So please, guys, if you can get help wanted, get it. Even if you don't have a headset, that's fine. You have seen through these videos that it's so, so, so much fun, even if you don't have a headset. Yeah, it is a lot more fun and enjoyable in the headset, but if you don't have a headset, that's perfectly fine. I'm not entirely sure how you vote for the Steal... not the Stealwall games, the Steam Game Awards, so just stay in the lookout for that. I definitely know that Stealwall tweeted about it on their Twitter, so make sure you follow them on Twitter for more nomination news based upon the Steam Game Awards. So anyways, that's it. I've been railing along for long enough. I think it's about time we end this, unfortunately, even though I don't want to. So thanks for watching the series, guys. I really, really appreciate it, so see all you on the flip side. Goodbye.


Welcome back to SuperCloud 2, which is an open industry collaboration between technologists, consultants, analysts, and of course practitioners to help shape the future of cloud. And at this event, one of the key areas we're exploring is the intersection of cloud and data and how building value on top of hyperscale clouds and across clouds is evolving, a concept we call SuperCloud. And we're pleased to welcome Harvir Singh, who's the chief data architect and global head of data at Western Union. Harvir, it's good to see you again. Thanks for coming on the program. Thanks, David. It's always a pleasure to talk to you. So many things stand out from when we first met. And one of the most gripping for me was when you said to me, when data moves, money moves. And that's the world we live in today and we have for a long time. Money is moved as bits. And when it has to move, we want it to move quickly, securely, and in a government manner. And the pressure to do so has only grown. So tell us how that trend has evolved over the past decade in the context of your industry generally and Western Union specifically. Look, I always say to people that we are probably the first ones to introduce digital currency around the world because, hey, somebody around the world needs money. We move data to make that happen. That trend has actually accelerated quite a bit. If you look at the last 10 years and you look at all these payment companies, digital companies, credit card companies, that have evolved, majority of them are working on the same principle. When data moves, money moves. When data is stale, the money goes away, right? I think that trend is continuing and it's not just that trend is in this space, it's also continuing in other spaces, specifically around acquisition of customers, communication with customers, it's all becoming digital. And at the end of the day, it's all data being moved from one place to another. At the end of the day, you're not seeing the customer, but you're looking at the data that he is consuming and they are making actionable items on it and be able to respond to what they need. So I think 10 years, it's really, really evolved. You operate, Western Union operates in one of the 200 countries and you have what I would call pseudo federated organization. You're trying to standardize wherever possible on the infrastructure and you're curating the tooling and doing the heavy lifting in the data stack, which of course lessens the burden on the developers and the line of business consumers. So my question is in operating in 200 countries, how do you deal with all the diversity of laws and regulations across those reasons? I know you're heavily involved in AWS, but AWS isn't everywhere. You still have some on-prem infrastructure. Can you take, paint a picture of what that looks like? Yeah, a few years ago, we were primarily mostly on-prem and one of the biggest pain points has been managing that infrastructure around the world in those countries. Yes, we operate in 200 countries, but we don't have infrastructure in 200 countries, but we do have agent locations in 200 countries. United Nations says we only have like 183 odd countries, but there are countries which you don't declare themselves countries and we are there as well because somebody wants to send money there, right? Somebody has an agent location down there as well. So that infrastructure is obviously very hard to manage and maintain. You have to comply by numerous laws, and in the last few years, specifically with GDPR, CCPA, data localization laws in different countries, it's been a challenge, right? And one of the things that we did a few years ago, we decided that we want to be in the business of helping our customers move money faster, security and with complete trust in us. We don't want to be able to, we don't want to be in the business of managing infrastructure. And that's one of the reasons we started to migrate and move our journey to the cloud. AWS has obviously chosen first because of its, first in the game has more location than more data centers around the world where we operate, but we still have existing infrastructure which is in some countries, which is still localized because AWS hasn't reached there, or we don't have a comparable provider there. We still manage those. And we have to comply by those laws. Our data privacy and our data localization text tag is pretty, pretty good. I would say we manage our data very well. We manage our customer data very well, but it comes with a lot of complexity. We get a lot of requests from the European Union. We get a lot of requests from Asia Pacific, every pretty much on a weekly basis to explain how we are taking controls and putting measures in place to make sure that the data is secured and is in the right place. So it's a complex environment. We do have exposure to other clouds as well, like Google and Azure. And as much as we would love to be completely, a very, very hybrid kind of an organization, it's still at a stage where we are still very heavily focused on AWS yet, but at some point, we'd love to see a world that is not reliant on a single provider, but it's a little bit more democratized. As and when, what I want to use, I should be able to use and pay for use. The concept started like that, but it's obviously, it's now again, there are three big players in the market and they're doing their own thing. We'd love to see them come collaborate at some point. Yeah, wouldn't we all? I want to double click on the whole multi-cloud strategy, but if I understand it correctly in a perfect world, everything on premises would be in the cloud. First of all, is that a correct statement? Is that nirvana for you or not necessarily? I would say it is nirvana for us, but I would also put a caveat is it's very tricky because from a regulatory perspective, we are a regulated entity in many countries. The regulators would want to see some control if something happens with a relationship with AWS in one country or with Google in another country. It keeps happening, right? For example, Russia was a good example there. We had to switch things off. We should be able to do that. But if let's say somewhere in Asia, this country decides that they don't want to partner with AWS and majority of our stuff is on AWS, where do I go from there? So we have to have some level of confidence in our own infrastructure. So we do maintain some to be able to fail back into and move things it needs to be. So it's a tricky question. Yes, it's nirvana state that I don't have to manage infrastructure. But I think it's far less practical than it said. We will still own something that we call it our own where we have complete control, being a financial entity. And so do you try to, I'm sure you do, standardized between all the different on-prem's and in this case, the AWS cloud or maybe even other clouds, how do you do that? Do you work with different vendors at the various places of the stack to try to do that? Some of the vendors, like a snowflake is only in the cloud. Others, whether it's whatever, analytics or storage or database might be hybrid. What's your strategy with regard to creating as common an experience as possible between your on-prem and your clouds? You asked a question which I asked when I joined as well. This is one of the most important questions is how soon when I fail back if I need to fail back and how quickly can I, because not everything that is sitting on the cloud is comparable to on-prem or it's backward compatible. And the reason I say backward compatible is, our on-prem cloud is obviously behind. We haven't taken enough time to kind of put it to a state where because we started to migrate and now we have access to infrastructure on the cloud, most of the new things have been built there. But for critical application, I would say we have technology that could be used to move back so technologies like couch-based technologies like Post-Stress Equal, technologies like DB2, et cetera. We still have and maintain a fairly large portion of it on-prem where critical applications could potentially be serviced. I'll give you one example. We use Neo4j very heavily for our AML use cases and that's an important one because if Neo4j on the cloud goes down and it's happening in the past, again, even with three clusters, having all three clusters going down with a DR, we still need some accessibility of that because that's one of the biggest fraud and risk application that supports. So we do still maintain some comparable technology. Snowflake is an odd one. It's obviously there is none on-prem. But then, you know, Snowflake I also feel it's more analytical based technology, not a transactional based technology at least in our ecosystem. So for me to replicate that, yes, it'll probably take time, but I can live with that. But my business will not stop because our transactional applications can potentially move over if needed. Yeah, and of course, you know, all these big market cap companies like the Snowflake or Databricks, which is not public yet, but they've got big aspirations. And so, you know, we've seen things like Snowflake do a deal with Dell for on-prem object store. I think they do the same thing with Pure. And so over time, you see Mongo extending its estate. And so over time, all these things are coming together. I want to step out of this conversation for a second. I just ask you, given the current macroeconomic climate, what are the priorities? You know, obviously people are, CIOs are tapping the brakes on spending. We've reported on that. But what is it? Is it security? Is it analytics? Is it modernization of the on-prem stack, which you were saying a little bit behind? Where are the priorities today given the economic headwinds? So the most important priority right now is growing the business, I would say. It's a different, I know this is more, it's not a very techy or a tech answer that you would expect, but it's growing the business. We want to acquire more customers and be able to service them as best needed. So the majority of our investment is going in the space where tech can support that initiative. During our earnings call, we released the new pillars of our organization where we will focus on, you know, only channel digital experience and then one experience for customer, whether it's retail, whether it's digital, we want to open up our own experience scores, et cetera. So we are investing in technology where it's going to support those pillars, but the spend is in a way that we are obviously taking away from the things that do not support those. So I would say it's flat for us. We are not like heavily investing or aggressively increasing our tech budget, but it's more like, hey, switch this off because it doesn't make us money, but now I'll switch this on because this is going to support what we can do with money, right? So that's kind of where we are heading towards. So it's not driven by technology, but it's driven by business and how it supports our customers and our ability to compete in the market. You know, I think, Javier, that's consistent with what we heard in some other work that we've done, our ETR partner who does these types of surveys. We're hearing the same thing is that, you know, we might not be spending on modernizing our on-prem stack. Yeah, we want to get to the cloud at some point and modernize that, but if it supports revenue, you know, we'll invest in that and get the, you know, instant ROI. I want to ask you about, you know, this concept of super cloud, this abstracted layer of value on top of hyperscale infrastructure and maybe on-prem, but we were talking about the integration, for instance, between Snowflake and Salesforce, where you got different data sources and you were explaining that you had great interest in being able to, you know, have a kind of, I'll say seamless, sorry, I know it's an overused word, but integration between the data sources and those two different platforms. Can you explain that and why that's attractive to you? Yeah, I'm a big supporter of action where the data is, right? Because the minute you start to move, things are already lost in translation. The time is lost, you can't get to it fast enough. So if, for example, for us, Snowflake Salesforce is our actionable platform where we action, we send marketing campaigns, we send customer communication via SMS in-app as well as via email. Now, we would like to be able to interact with our customers pretty much on a, I would say near real-time. The concept of real-time doesn't work well with me because I always feel that if you're observing something, it's not real-time, it's already happened. But how soon can I react? That's the question. And given that I have to move that data all the way from our, let's say, engagement platforms like Adobe and Particles of the World into Snowflake first, and then do my modeling in some way and be able to then put it back into Salesforce, it takes time. Yes, I can do it in a few hours, but a few hours makes a lot of difference. Somebody sitting on my website couldn't find something, walked away. How soon do you think he will lose interest?  I think if I can react to that as fast as possible without too much data movement, I think that's a lot of good benefit that this kind of integration will bring. Yes, I can potentially take data directly into Salesforce, but now I have two copies of data, which is again, something that I'm not a big proponent of. Let's keep the source of the data simple, clean, and a single source. I think this kind of integration will help a lot if the actions can be brought very close to where the data resides. Thank you for that. And so, you know, it's funny, we sometimes try to define real time as before you lose the customer, so that's kind of real time. But I want to come back to this idea of governed data sharing. You mentioned some other clouds, a little bit of Azure, a little bit of Google. In a world where let's say you go more aggressively and we know that for instance, if you want to use Google's AI tools, you got to use BigQuery. You know, today anyway, they're not sort of so friendly with Snowflake, maybe different with AWS, maybe Microsoft's going to be different as well. But in an ideal world, what I'm hearing is you want to keep the data in place. You don't want to move the data, moving data is expensive, making copies is badness. It's expensive and it's also changes the state, right? So you got governance issues. So this idea of super cloud is that you can leave the data in place and actually have a common experience across clouds. Let's assume for a minute, Google kind of wakes up my words, not yours, and says, hey, maybe you know what? Partnering with the Snowflake or Databricks is better for our business. It's better for the customers. How would that affect your business and the value that you can bring to your customers? Again, I would say that would be the Nirvana state that we want to get to because I would say not everyone's perfect. They have great engineers and great products that they are developing, but that's where they compete as well, right? I would like to use the best of greed as much as possible. And I've been a person who has done this in the past as well. I've used tools to integrate and the reason why this integration has worked is primarily because sometimes you do pick the best thing for that job. And Google's AI products are definitely going really well, but that accessibility, if it's a problem, then I really can't depend on them, right? I would love to move some of that down there, but they have to make it possible for us. Azure is doing really, really good and investing. So I think they are a little bit more closer to getting to that state and seeking our attention than at Google at this point of time. But I think there will be a revelation movement because with more and more people that I talk to like myself, they're also talking about the same thing. I'd like to be able to use Google's AdSense. I'd like to be able to use Google's advertising platform. But you know what? I already have all this data. Why do I need to move it? Can't they just go and access it? That question will keep haunting them for a very long time.  AWS is nailing it when you go to reinvent. It's all about the ecosystem. And I think they realized they can make a lot more money, you know, together than trying to have. And Google's got to figure that out. I think Google thinks, all right, hey, we got to have the best tech. And that tech, they do have the great tech. And that's our competitive advantage. You got to wake up to the ecosystem and what's happening in the field and to go to market. I want to ask you about how you see data and cloud evolving in the future. You mentioned that things that are driving revenue are the priorities. And maybe you're already doing this today, but my question is, do you see a day when companies like yours are increasingly offering data and software services? You've been around for a long time as a company. You've got, you know, first party data, you've got proprietary knowledge and maybe tooling that you've developed. And you're becoming more, you're already a technology company. Do you see someday pointing that at customers? Or again, maybe you're doing it already or is that not practical in your view? So data monetization has always been on the charts. It's the reason why it hasn't seen the light as regulatory pressure at this point of time. We are partnering up with certain agencies. Again, you know, some pilots are happening to see the value of that and be able to offer that. But I think, you know, eventually we'll get to a state where are, because we are trying to build financial, accessible financial services, we will be in a state that we will be offering those two partners, which could then extend it to their customers as well. So we are definitely exploring that. We are definitely exploring how to enrich our data with our data and be able to complete a superset of data that can be used because frankly speaking, the data that we have is very interesting. We have trends of people migrating. We have trends of people migrating within the US, right? So if a new, let's say, there's a new, like I'll give you an example, let's say New York City, I can tell you at any given point of time with my data, what is, you know, a dominant population in that area from a migrant perspective. And if I see a change in that data, I can tell you where that is moving towards. I think it's gonna be very interesting.  So, but at the end of the day, I think at some point we'll get to a state where we are confident that the data can be used for good. One simple example is, you know, pharmacies. They would love to get, you know, we've been talking to CVS and we're talking to Walgreens and trying to figure out if they will get access to this kind of data demographic information, what could they do better? Because, you know, from a gene pool perspective, there are diseases and stuff that are very prevalent in one community versus the other. We could probably equip them with this information to be able to better, you know, let's say staff their pharmacies or keep better inventory of products that could be used for the population in that area. Similarly, the likes of Walgreens and Kroger's, they would like to have more, let's say, ethnic products in their aisles, right? How do you enable that? That data is primarily, I think we are the biggest source of that data. So, we do take pride in it, but we know with caution, beyond obviously exploring that as well. My last question for you, Harvere, is I'm going to ask you to do a thought exercise. So, in that vein of that whole monetization piece, imagine that now, Harvere, you are running a P&L that is going to monetize that data. And my question to you is there's a business vector and a technology vector. So, from a business standpoint, the more distribution channels you have, the better. So, running on AWS cloud, partnering with Microsoft, partnering with Google, going to market with them, going to give you more revenue. Okay, so that's a motivation for a multi-cloud or super cloud, that's indisputable. But from a technical standpoint, is there an advantage to running on multiple clouds or is that a disadvantage for you? It's, I would say it's a disadvantage because if my data is distributed, I have to combine it at some place. So, the very first step that we had taken was obviously we brought in snowflake. The reason we wanted our analytical data and we wanted historical data in the same place. So, we are already there and ready to share. And we are actually participating in the data share, but in a private setting at the moment. So, we are technically enabled to share unless there is a significant, I would say, upside to moving the data to another cloud. I don't see any reason because I can enable anyone to come and get it from snowflake. It's already enabled for us. Yeah, or if somehow, magically, several years down the road, some standard developed, so you don't have to move the data.  I love having you on and I really appreciate you participating in the program. I appreciate it. Thank you and good luck for the future. Thank you very much. This is Dave Vellante for John Furrier and the entire CUBE community. Keep it right there for more great coverage from SuperCloud too.


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