Caroline Petty, the Deputy Director of the UN Regional Information Centre UNRIC, is going to address us. Now, this is part of the important series run in partnership between the Institute and Irish Aid, and to kick off proceedings I want to ask Frank Wall from Irish Aid. I'm very grateful to have the opportunity to introduce Caroline Petty. As many of you may know, Caroline is the Deputy Director of the UN Regional Information Centre in Brussels, and is Deputy Chair of the UN Communication Group. Before joining UNRIC in 2013, Caroline worked as the head of the Media Partnerships Unit at UN headquarters in New York for 12 years, and also worked for the EU media programme for seven years. Given her significant experience in communications and public information campaigns, I look forward to today's talk, as I'm sure you all do, and to learning from her experience and expertise. Now, on today's topic, engaging everyone on the SDGs, ensuring a better future for all, it is a particularly timely one. It is almost two years to the day, the 25th of September 2015, since the UN Member States unanimously adapted the 2030 agenda for sustainable development. Further more, it is over a year and a half since the new goals and targets came into effect on 1 January 2016, and countries and multilateral organisations are now working towards mainstreaming the SDGs into their national and international development planning and action. On that point, I think it's just worth stressing or emphasising that the 2030 agenda is not simply a development framework aimed at the developing or at the poor, rather it is a universal agenda that applies equally to all countries. On that point, what of Ireland? Well, as many of you are aware, Ireland as co-facilitator played a pivotal role in brokering the 2030 agenda. However, while the agreement itself has an Irish flag, we now need to move that flag towards implementation, and on that particular point I would just say three things. Firstly and domestically, the interdepartmental senior officials group on the implementation of the SDGs has been convened by the Department of the Taoiseach and it will hold its first meeting on the 12th of October. Secondly, Ireland is one of the countries that has volunteered to present a voluntary national review of its progress at the 2018 High Level Political Forum, and our target is to have a strong, clear and detailed overview of our implementation of the SDGs by July 2018. And lastly, through our country programmes and through our close engagement with the UN and other multilateral institutions, Ireland will use the SDGs as an overarching framework for guiding our development cooperation programme. Now, while implementation of the 2030 agenda is above all a national responsibility, there is also a huge role for the multilateral system and particularly for the UN in supporting national implementation. And while implementation has now begun globally, this year's High Level Political Forum presented sobering news that the rate of progress in many areas is far slower than what is needed to meet the goals and targets by 2030. To realise the ambition of the 2030 agenda, it is necessary to intensify the political will and commitment needed and to ensure that all stakeholders, including civil society organisations, the media and business play a central role. And to that end, the UN Regional Information Centre, which is the communications hub of the UN in Europe, has a crucial role to play in raising the visibility and the awareness of the importance of the SDGs for everyone. And on that note, I will now invite Caroline to speak to us on today's topic. And I look forward to hearing from her of the opportunities and the challenges that lie ahead. Thank you for the opportunity to address the Institute. Thank you, Tom. And it's very important, as Frank said, for us to be part of this series, Why Development Matters. It's also an honour to actually address this group of activists and distinguished guests who are representing a country that is a long-standing committed partner to the United Nations. Also, what an appropriate day, apart from this lovely weather, to actually come and meet, discuss the agenda 2030, a roadmap for a better world with more peace and prosperity for all. As some of you in the room know, 21st of September is the day of international peace, the international day of peace. The United Nations is grateful for Ireland's engagement on the broad agenda of the UN from human rights, peacekeeping and conflict prevention, to sustainable development and climate change. And this afternoon, as Frank said, I would like to focus on the importance of communication in the implementation of the Sustainable Development agenda and the role that communications can play in sustaining the momentum on agenda 2030. I represent the Department of Global Communications of the United Nations and our office based in Brussels. It's a regional public information centre. We are covering 22 countries in Europe, including Ireland. Our mandate at UNRIC is to inform and engage European citizens on global issues. And of course, one of our top priorities for the 13 years to go are the Sustainable Development Goals. We are now indeed in year two of the adoption of the Sustainable Development Goals and I'm not going to explain what the goals are to such a well-informed audience as Ireland has had a significant role in shaping the 2030 agenda. Ireland decisions to participate in the voluntary national review at the High Level Panel Forum on Sustainable Development's next July is very timely. This will be an opportunity for Ireland and for the European Union to actively engage in the preparatory process and to maximise peer-learning benefits. Time is of essence and each member state is working on aligning the Sustainable Development Goals to their national policies, or they should, and in delivering results. So communication has an impact on policy-making and becomes an instrument to illustrate those results and progress. Success stories are essential to show impact and progress and development issues, as we know, are not so sexy. So we need success stories, human-driven stories to make the points and convey the messages. Effective communication can help sustain momentum. Peer-learning and sharing best practices will take time, but it's valuable and it will take part into this change of mentality which is necessary. Investing in strategic communication on the implementation of the Sustainable Development Goals is key and as Frank said, our office in Brussels helps gives visibility to those success stories on the SDGs. How the Sustainable Development Goals are relevant to everyone and how European citizens are creative and committed to them. So I'm sure that's something maybe we can talk about at the Q&A, how we can work together on that. We want to show how people benefit from the SDGs and how they are also contributing to the achievements of the SDGs. After all, this is the people's agenda as it transforms the way we live, work and do business. So for my colleagues and I at the United Nations Department of Global Communications, the goals represent a golden opportunity but a very strong responsibility to spread the word to the people because what we want to do is to connect every continent, every country and every citizens to the goal and make them meaningful to their daily lives. So at first, as you are a part of it, it seems like a daunting task how to reach so many people in so many languages, so many countries on all topics and also they have been some progress. It is also clear that the public is not being informed enough about the Sustainable Development Goals. The Eurobarometers suggest that awareness of the SDGs has risen from 36 to 41% from 2016 to 2017 but the knowledge remains at a very low level. Action is now needed to go beyond the awareness and ensure that the Sustainable Development Goals are actually owned by the people. Yet there is hope and I truly feel that as much as my colleagues, whether people do hear about the Sustainable Development Goals, there is an eagerness to take part. This is crucial as without popular engagements the SDGs will fail. Strong communication and public engagement at all levels of societies remains essential and needs to be ongoing. So the civil society, and I know it's a very vibrant one in Ireland, has a great role to play to mobilize the people to take action. Tomorrow in New York, there will be the first edition of the People's Summit. It's the Social Good Summit and the People's Summit combines as a way to gather influencers and speakers about what they think about the SDGs and that will be online if you like to follow that up. Indeed social media and media can play their part in leveraging those success stories that we need because bringing a positive narrative on the goals and why they matter is something we need more. Let me share with you a couple of stories and examples that my colleagues have been working across Europe. I think the best practice is always good and like that we can engage the dialogue after. First personally I think that technology represents a huge opportunity that we still need to tap into in delivering messages about the SDGs. As we know the innovative and appropriate use of social media tools by young people can be and is in a lot of cases already very effective. I'm taking part every year for the past four years into an event organized by Microsoft and lately it was even taken by the mayor of the city of Milan. It's an initiative called STEM in the City which relates to Gold 8 and 5 and it aims at inspiring girls and young women to pursue tech related studies and careers in order to encourage gender parity in the industry and to break down silos and stereotypes. We know we need to utilize this energy and the activism of young people, young, old and in between. It concerns all of us. Another great initiative, quite different because it touched on sports, was implemented by my colleague last year in Greece when the emblematic Athen Marathon was split into 17 parts each representing one goal. So the localization of SDGs and I know some of you in the room are already doing that is very effective and this kind of initiative could be duplicated in many countries since we know how popular marathons are. Science again because I think in Europe and you had a European commissioner who was Irish not a long time ago before Mr Moedash. Mr Gwyn? No, Morgan Gwyn. Thank you. So science also inspired generations and young people. Recently maybe some of you like me have dreamt following the fantastic journey of the solar impulse adventure. The first around the world tour from a solar flight. That was quite an amazing technical, scientific, innovative and business adventure and the business sector was very supportive and we know how it is important to keep them on board. The UN Secretary General spoke to the pilots as they were crossing the Atlantic Ocean and Mr Ban Ki-moon at the time was at headquarter and connected with them and the European Commissioner, the current one for research and innovation is supporting this type of entrepreneurship spirit. Europe is indeed very strong in research and innovation and this type of role models and I say that because in Ireland you have a lot of entrepreneur and I think the spirit in the small countries is very important and can lead to big things and those role models can be a source of pride to be European, to be Irish, to be a member of the world in progressing on some of those goals. So this is a good illustration of goal 17 and the effectiveness of partnerships. Maybe one example in the Netherlands where museum is a social hub which aims at bridging the gap between the international community decisions and the ordinary citizen. Museum is attempting to tell the stories of the goals to families and children and it has created a one-planet exhibit which is a permanent interactive exhibition on the goals. They have 65,000 square meters, it's an amazing space and they encourage people to confront the challenges in an entertaining way and to come up with solutions themselves that will help achieve the agenda 2030. Since the opening of the museum last year they had 300,000 families, kids and people walk through the door. That's actually 100,000 more, that's what they had expected. So it's positive and promising. It shows the interest when you come with some creative ways to mobilize the people. So that's of course for goal 4 and goal 12 but it's the type of engagements that could be duplicated. I think we spoke all a lot in Ireland, it's a good country also to be aware of those issues. We spoke a lot in the summer about ocean, goal 14, life below water and you may have heard of the ocean Volvo race, a historical sailing race which will be taking place again next month in Alicante and touring Europe and the world. This race has decided to use its popularity to amplify the clean seas campaign, turn the tide on plastics. We know the growing problem of marine litter and this would be an interesting experience because the organizers are committed to minimize the race carbon footprint, to maximize the race impact by spreading awareness and capturing data about the initiatives and also they will build a legacy by creating an ocean summit. So they are bringing science, government and business in an effort to commit to new positive action in this area. This afternoon I was mentioning during lunch to Tom and his colleagues, that's Karen and my UN colleagues and I will be visiting two high schools in Dublin and will be interacting with them. I understand they know about the SDGs and it's actually important for them to be able to express how they feel about it for us to take stock and hear where we could maybe contribute and help them to get to know more. This is an initiative that many of my colleagues will organize around UN day, UN 19 nation day on October the 24th and the Belgian Minister of Foreign Affairs will be going to his own school on October the 24th and he will be joined by the Queen of Belgium in her capacity of SDGs advocates. So that work towards kids schools as we know is essential and it's something that we could be very happy to do with you next year to be discussed. I know that some of you may be taking part on September the 25th to the Act for SDGs March which will take place to celebrate the second anniversary of the adoption of the goals. I understand the coalition 2030 will run islands light the way so it's interesting to see that this special event will take place also here. All those examples are there to illustrate once again the importance of communication in raising awareness, building support for the goals in order to reach them by 2030. So in conclusion let's be realistic achieving this roadmap will not be easy and therefore communicating and sustaining the interest, the engagement and the knowledge on both the progress made but also the gaps remaining require an ongoing effort. And if humankind is to achieve the future we want, a sustainable relationship with the planet we inhabit, the 2030 agenda must be implemented. It will not be implemented if those for whom it is designed are unaware of its existence and the rights and the responsibility that they and the communities are required to act upon and that includes the youth. So for those reasons strong and broad based partnerships, success stories, sharing information are becoming even more important to achieve the SDGs. And since we have 13 years left to 2030 and a long voyage to reach those goals we are here to take stock and with those success stories and initiatives such as the one I mentioned but also such as the one many of you are working on we have a better chance to get there together and leave no one behind.


In this problem, we are going to take up a question related to a special identity which we learned in the previous session and the question is, find the product of these two factors, what all? xy, x-y plus 2z, nx square plus y square plus 4z square, plus xy plus 2yz minus 2zx, okay. Now, the moment we see such kind of problems and you see how do we approach? Basically, the thing is, what should be the idea as in, what should be the first step? So, if you see, this is a trinomial, isn't it? So, if you see, there are trinomials involved, trinomials involved. And in case of trinomials, we know, we studied trigonometry, sorry, identity is related to trinomial square, trinomial square, if you remember, a plus b plus c whole square, that was one thing which we learned. And then we also talked, we had a special identity where we had trinomial and this kind of an expression.  And this identity was given as a cube plus b cube plus c cube minus 3abc, isn't it? This is what we learned in the previous session. So, the way this has been organized, these two factors have been given, it indicates that obviously, first is there is trinomial and there are square terms in the second factor, if you see, x square, y square, z square. So, it is inviting us to think in these lines. Okay. So, hence, and you can rule out that it is not a square identity, not related to square. Why? Because if you multiply, you will get a cube, x into x square will you will get a cube. So, hence, it is something related to cube as well as trinomials and the only identity which we have learned is this one. Let us see whether this fits into the scheme. So, clearly, I can rewrite the given expression as x minus y or you can rather say it as x plus minus y plus 2z, right? So, this becomes my 3 a and b and c. So, you can think x as a, this minus y is b and 2z as c.   So, this is the second factor, right? These are the terms which I can write the given expression into. So, if you see, this clearly indicates this is a, this is b, this is c and these ones are a square, b square, c square, minus a, b, minus b, c and minus c, a, right? Which fits into this identity. Hence, the final result would be nothing but x cube plus minus y whole cube because minus y is playing the role of b and 2z whole cube, then minus 3 times a, sorry, so a is, a here is, what? a is, a is x, b is minus y and c is 2z.  So, this should be the answer or this should be the final product when you multiply these things, right? x cube plus y cube plus a z cube plus 6xyz.


Today I bring you a little fun Miles build which allows you to move like this. How is it going guys? My name is DP Jen and I'd like to thank you for stopping by and checking out my video. If you do enjoy it, leaving a like really helps out and subscribe if you want more Borderlands. Also guys, every week I give away copies of this game, so if you want for yourself or a friend, simply subscribe and make sure you have notifications turned on. Drop a like on this video and leave a comment down below.  How to wind a flacker back to its normal self, actually making it even better. A few other crazy unique Miles builds. Today I have another one for you and I'm calling it the Flash build. Now if you missed my other videos on Miles and what she's capable of, I'll link them in the video description. Ok so this setup requires what I pointed out in my previous Miles builds. You need a weapon which can damage you. Any weapon with an elemental burn with a blast radius on it will do. My instance I'm using the Hornet and I'm shooting the floor to damage myself. You then need a shield, any shield with a fleet on it. This increases movement speed when your shield is depleted. Then you need the Blood Letter class mod. This is super important to this build. If Miles would be healed, she gains shields instead. If she would regenerate health, she also gains shield regeneration. This is a must for doing this people. Then all you need is an artifact which delivers health regen. This can be a benefit of the Blood Letter class mod if you are lucky enough to land this on the class mod. So with this setup at hand, travel to anywhere you want within the game. Then all you have to do is to pleat your own shield with the weapon of your choice. You will notice when your shield depletes that it will basically start instantly regenerating itself. Now because we are suffering from said elemental effects from the weapon we are damaging ourselves with, the shield depletion and regenerating itself will begin a constant loop. And as this loops, it stacks the benefits the shield offers in terms of fleet. So every time this loops people, it stacks 10% movement speed resulting in outstanding results which you can see on screen now. And yes, this isn't a realistic build which would come in handy when taking the game serious, but it's still a fun thing to share with you people. So yeah, enjoy it if you want. Also shout out to Jake for allowing me to use his Xbox account to showcase this build to you guys. His Twitter and Instagram can be found linked within the video description. And I know we have come to the end of the video guys, if you enjoyed it leaving a like really helps out. If you're new around to see more Bloodlands videos, be sure to subscribe and if you never want to miss a video I upload, you can turn notifications on by hitting that bell button. But guys, thanks as always for stopping by, hopefully you enjoyed the video and hopefully I will see you on that next one.


So I don't want to make excuses from me not sleeping because of my work schedule to my stress with my personal and professional life over the past few days. I don't want that to be a factor in why I took this debate. The reason I took this debate was because I didn't think there was any such thing as bad publicity and I prepared on the topics we had discussed beforehand, but he lied about the topics, which I will show in a minute. But one thing I want to say is I came into this with the utmost respect and professionalism and I charm everyone I meet in person. I figured I could do something of the same effect on him. So I went in with respect for him. And unfortunately, that was not in my best interest. So I respected the topics he chose. I didn't look up any research outside of those topics, anything like that. And I could have brought up a million things in regards to vegans' diets being deficient, negative things that have happened to vegans, vegans' parents killing their children, I could have talked about very apparent negative things about him and his past problems, vegan. I could have talked about a million negative things about veganism. I could have also brought up another million topics about how meat consumption is lower now, but heart disease is higher.  And even the nutrient density thing, guys, I can't even get carnivores to consume a nutrient-dense diet. You think I can argue that against vegans? Please. All of these things I've thought about. For those of you guys saying my debate skills are lacking, let me show you this information. So this was the tweet discussing our debate. And before he said, don't be a pussy if you're not interested in having debate, then I'm not interested. And I wanted to have more of a discussion on various topics. And he didn't agree to the topics I wanted to initially discuss on. So what he said then was, I'd be interested in debating the health consequences of a carnivore diet, including heart disease, diabetes, and cancer. And I'd like to debate the ethical principles of veganism. So let's throw out ethical principles of veganism because that's not really relevant to what I'm upset about. He said, I'd be interested in debating the health consequences of a carnivore diet, including heart disease, diabetes, and cancer. So what I did was I looked up things in relation to the carnivore diet and heart disease. You know, why would meat cause heart disease? Why would meat cause diabetes? And why would meat cause cancer? And we didn't discuss any of that. He might try to argue that, oh, well, heme iron, the studies that he linked to me with heme iron was with diabetes and cancer. But no, his main argument was that heme iron caused oxidation, which is nothing of what we spoke about. And I'm very well versed in heme iron and its inflammatory properties in regards to nitrosamines. But we didn't spoke, he didn't tell me about that at all. And the first one about heart disease is the atherosclerosis in these mummies, technically a topic about heart disease. Well, heart disease in relation to the carnivore diet, these people were not on a carnivore diet. Those people in that mummy study were on a diet of fish, vegetables, and grains. So regardless of what vegan gains tries to justify in telling me these topics and tries to loosely connect them with what he said, I think anyone who interprets what he said here is not what we debated about. This is why I am so upset.   But I still think I conveyed myself. And the reason I was saying I don't want to discuss these topics I like to move on is because I didn't have research on this because he's literally linking me studies under the stress of the live stream that was very difficult to study. It took me eight minutes in my debunked video. Guys, I debunked everything in eight minutes over this three and a half hour podcast, the video I did last night. Like without the stress of the live stream and the ability to just read the full study, which he refused to give me, he refused to give me the full study. He said heme iron causes oxidation when it's not heme iron. Iron sulfide causes oxidation. And he said calcification is in these mummies when the CT scans are invalid measures for atherosclerosis. There's just so much lying and misleading that he did to me that I feel like he needs to set this right. Let's just say Frankie the face might get some sort of craving for some tiny animals over the next few days if vegan gains doesn't respond to this video sooner than later. Just of the utmost importance as I feel, you know, the way he misled me to tarnish my reputation and intelligence is very personal. And the banter between me and Goji man and that type of stuff is drastically different than misleading someone into a debate and setting them up for failure, which is essentially what he did in my eyes. Guys, let me know if I sound crazy here. But either way, I really, you know, I've thought about this a lot over the past, well, as long as I know it's only been a day, but, you know, I've thought about this fairly in depth. And from my perspective, this was obviously a setup. You know, this was not fair to me. This was not, you know, something I should have done if I knew this was gonna happen. And there needs to be a consequence for him, but how can I hurt him? How many people watch my videos compared to his? What can I do? Can I say that I'm gonna start, you know, doing negative things that would go against his morals because of him and what he did to me? Should I start doing things like that?  That goes, that seems like almost as crazy as him. Does this sound fair? What if I set up a debate and I gave him three topics and then we did a debate on entirely something else and the bull was in my court and he had to debunk all the studies I gave him, that would never happen, right? We'd have to be on the flat earth for that to happen.


Oh my gosh it's so small Oh my god, I mean, I've never been on this map before so I don't even know this is interesting I've never seen this map before Yeah, this is a community made map. Okay. Hold on. Hold on. I I can you see me on the map I'm just hiding behind a tree Come up Why are you playing me? What's your problem? Oh, I see I see a little bit little me. I'm so cute. Come back. Help. Hello. Can you see me on the map? Oh, no, I see I see you. I see you Oh, I think I saw you There she is Hello, can you see me? I didn't see you.  It's a meat Okay, okay, Whitney. Come on. Come on. Come on. Let's go I don't know. I don't know. I don't know we we've got to migrate. Okay.  I think it's this beach. There is a lot of death here. Hold on. Hold on I'm gonna I'm gonna have a look. Can I go say hi?  Or maybe yeah, okay. I'm just gonna go. Wait. We stay still stay still That's cute. Okay. Now you can go Okay, okay, okay Oh, what's that? What's that? Oh, what is in his face? Oh, it's like a crocodile skull. It's huge Oh Oh Hello Winnie-winnie we can do dance. We can do dance to do the question mark do question mark I don't know what the bat's doing though You just try and hit it. No, he's dancing. Oh god What's up, Winnie? Winnie, where's Rob? Oh, I'm in his mouth. Oh, you're in his mouth. Oh, he's dancing. He's dancing. Okay. Okay. We're act friendly act friendly Help He likes to dance. That's good. He's friendly. He's friendly. He's friendly. Okay. Okay. This is good. Winnie. This is good We can survive. We can survive. We just have to be a little play things for them.  Let's cute. Oh, I love our little coals. They're really cool Have you seen the big call for it do the big call the top one big call.  I love this No, I'm the meat and I've been taking Wait, actually, I haven't even been looking at myself. Am I good? Oh, Winnie.  Follow me. Follow me. Follow me What am I watching out for? I don't know what you're looking at Winnie's in the big croc. No, that's to your left Winnie You're going to want the trouble Winnie, Winnie, look clams here. Clam on me Clam Did you get scared by him? I'm just like little squeaky toys to them. It was a laugh like a jackal.  Oh God. Oh God. Oh God. Oh God. Oh God. Oh God.  He's sheltering us Oh, look clams over there. Clams over there Winnie with the uh sauropod is So fun. Yeah, look it's this way. This way. Okay. We'll get a good good a clam.   He's squawking at the sunset. Come here. Come here. Come here. My turn. Oh, that's so romantic Okay These guys are cute Do you like them? Yeah Do you like their weird square heads? That's threaten the sunset threaten Go on then Oh, there's something on the other side What you see it I think it's in the water It's in the warder. I think that's a crocodile. Is it? Yeah, you're gonna come out to me No, I can't swim. Yeah, there we go. Look at that. Oh, we can change our stance two times ailment amount 5% landsby 20% stamina or 10% armor. I could get a quick headbutt Okay, okay. I'm gonna quick headbutt Uh cause low damage with a claw attack gives stacking debuff to armor or borrow Dig underground to avoid damage. Oh my god. Yes I want to dig on the ground.  I'll take that as well Okay, have you done it? God, you like to make noise, don't you? Bye Whitney Oh dammit, you're supposed to see that are you looking? No, look at me Whitney hold on I think we just found our dream dinosaurs. It's good, isn't it? Can we cross the ocean to think? No Bad sukomimus bad I'll headbutt him bad. I want to bleed him Come here. Come here. Come here. Come here. Got him. Did you? Yeah That's what he gets Charge Yeah, I got him again Headbutt get him Whitney get him. I got him. I got him. I got a bite.  Yeah run away. Oh look at him. He's trying to be friendly now Yeah, whatever whatever Okay, okay. Okay. Let's get going. Let's go. Let's go with the move on Whitney. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.  That's just funny Is that right? Yeah, are you giving the meat? Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Give him some meat. There you go. Have some bacon jumping over the mosesaw Whoo I love that this game. You could just make whatever story you want to oh my god. Look at all the babies Oh, there's so many of them. There's so many of us. Oh god. I got Run Wendy run Oh, no, it's a tiger nut. Oh my god, it's got a giant fish Whose fish was it?  Yeah, kind of seems that way doesn't it? No, is this not gulgur? No, this is gulgur. I'll gulgur Wow Look at his claws. He looks so cool.  I'm gonna make a cool shot with the dead carnitores. There we go.  I think there's drinking water over this way. Oh, I do actually need water Oh, and food. Yeah, what do I eat? Uh Oh, I think we need to look at our diet for that Where's this water? I think he's drinking it He's having sippies Let's drink the water too The graphics are quite good Oh, yeah, this looks awesome. Yeah and this is a A fan made one Yeah, this map's community made. Yeah. Yeah Hello triceratops.  Please Oh, no, it's gonna happen. I knew it's gonna happen I was like, no, I never trust the triceratops if it lines up like that He was trying to get both of us What? Put this Why? Wow I found my thumbnail I type in you should type in whit and then it's just you that comes up, but now but whittle comes up I love a bit of but whitty. Hey, I saw him. I saw him. I saw your murderer I'm gonna fight him You want me to fight him? Yeah Are you not gonna fight for my honor, James? There you go, and I'll beat him as well. There you go That's what you get for killing my wifey Um, bringing the turtle in Where did you get it? In the water Hold on, hold on, hold on Which is better? Which is better? Which is better? Do you want the shark? Or the turtle? Or do you want the turtle? Okay, we're gonna go for the game. Okay. You're gonna get the heaviest thing to pick it Your thing up. Okay. Oh, we're gonna do this again. Are we okay? Who's the biggest? Who's the biggest? Oh, that's the triceratops, isn't it? Uh No Did you bite me? No, no, no, that was the other guy kick another choice. Hello Good shark I'm gonna get this guy to get No, no, no, no, no, no, no No mine He's not gonna take it. He's not gonna take it.  Crocodiles got yours. Okay, so I'm gonna beat a crocodile No, no, snar snar snar t-rex t-rex t-rex you're bigger than him. Can you take my shark? Please take shock take shock. Please. Okay. I've got 20,000 points. Okay. Okay. Oh I got the big bird Okay, that's 20,000 and one so I win Can I have a shark? Yes. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm gonna go get something else.  Okay guys.   No, no, no, no Oh, he's such a stickler for the rules. Oh It's because they know yeah. Oh, I never seen me go to sleep. It's good The help there's like a raptor teabagging on my screen the pink raptor. Yeah, I had that as well Yeah, he must know he must know where this camera is. Oh wait, that's not on purpose I'm gonna hide See if you can find me turn off the hood turn off the hood I don't even know where you were Have you turned off the hood? Yeah Is this you the albino one The albino one is running. Yeah. No Okay, okay Uh, let's see Let's see I'm gonna get you Where is she? Oh, yeah, so you knew exactly where I was you little bookie.  Nice.    No, he's not winning Oh, oh, okay. Oh, we're going on a ride. Are you going on a ride? Put that down Put that down What's with that work? Ah big grab Please don't hurt me. Please don't hurt me.   No, well, what he can do is he can shake you and stuff and damage you but uh, obviously he's just having fun I'll let this guy pick me up We walk together call out weenie. Yeah, he's just a detail one.  What'd you do? What'd you do? He just killed a raptor Until he picked him up in his mouth. Yeah, and then he just killed him. You need to change your color jammed you to basic I can't be seen with you. No, I changed it to the green one. What do you mean? No, I put the green one on It's not my fault the lights rubbish. Look how far look how high I can leap now I put the leap ability on my legs. Hello weird one.  No, don't don't get up. Yes. Get up. James I'm gonna follow his footsteps. We're just Oh, we're doing the mod He's a bit faster than me though. Are you following me? Yeah, yeah, I have the lyrics make a song up We can't move until he moves, okay Hold on. I'll back up. I'll back up. Hold on. Okay. I'm not gonna move till he moves. Okay. Okay. We do we do Come over here, what's happened? Why is everybody here all of a sudden? I don't know Oh When are you supposed to make a lyrics up stop?  Is that my original shock? Oh, it can't be because it reset. It would disappear. Nope. What?    We hide under him, Whitney Yes No, no, no Oh, are we gonna get him? Are we gonna get him?   I'm playing dead.  You will be dead I'm dead. Yeah I'm dead. I'm dead. Oh, baby morack whale. I've never seen that before Oh, he's such a cutie. He's like a little like a vulture Yeah, look at him. Look at him.  We're almost dead when you run when you run. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're almost dead. Okay We're almost dead. We're almost dead Everybody's fun They were just enjoying the show and he just killed them both I think he was hoping to kill us as well.  Yeah, that's disgusting Where his feet were like slippers Whitney, we need to cross to the side of the great the big big water, okay No, we don't have enough stamp for that. No. No. No. We do we do we got to go from rock to rock Okay, we've got to do this. This is our mission, but it's so far It doesn't matter. It's what instincts say. Okay, let's go. Oh god jump Okay, okay, okay get on the first rock. Oh, it's not looking good for gyms Okay, okay, okay. Oh god. I can't get all the second rock gyms. I can't get all the second rock gyms Well, come back here. Come back. Come back. We are not gonna be able to swim across that entire thing with this stamp We can do it, Whitney. We can do it. We're gonna drown. Okay. We're gonna launch on to the other rock already Ah I made it. Gyms, there are no rocks. There's only one really far away and yeah, yeah, we can get on that rock We can get on that rock. No, we can't Yay We did it. Okay, okay No, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait. We need to wait for him to go. You'd be smart about this. Okay, Whitney I don't know how to do that. Wait, hold on. What if I do this? Oh Don't don't do it chance. You're gonna drown. Ah, damn it Has he just realized he can get up here as well? Yeah, I think I think he saw that it was like hold on. I can get up here then Whitney, we're in trouble now. We're in trouble. We're in trouble He's trying he's trying Okay, get ready to jump to the rock if he comes up Oh, it's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay Okay, okay, right. We're gonna make for that rock. We need it. We need a good run up Oh God, oh god, oh god I should have equipped a 20% more stamp. Okay. Don't sprint. Just just slowly. I think is is the best Oh god, you sprint. I'm gonna drown. Is it is it better to sprint? We've got this Whitney We've got this me and you okay. Oh god. It's okay. It's okay If you don't make him and we can climb up the side of the rock to the right. Okay Okay, it's cool. It's cool. Look at oxygen.  It's okay. You got this you got your oxygen and your health bar. It's fine There you go.  I think he's probably intrigued I don't know he's like Say hello Be friendly Yay, okay. There's another rock over there Whitney. Oh god sake. Where are we going? We're gonna go to the side. We're gonna get a cross We're not gonna make that there's not enough rocks that one's straight across straight across from me. You see it? Yeah Hello croc. I'm gonna go. Okay. I've increased my star by 20 so this should help Did you increase your star on it by 20%? I don't know. I don't know. I'm swimming. I'm swimming It was the first one. It was the first one Okay, okay, okay There we go.  Right. We're going for that big rock over there. Oh god. That's so far Okay, ready Come on And just sprint just sprint. We got this Oh god. Oh god. Oh god. Oh god Uh-oh There you go. There you go. Okay. Okay I'm so bad I'm a sprinting. Bye Uh-oh We're gonna die No, we're not we got this. We got this. It's fine. Oh, it's so deep.   You definitely Okay, okay help going down.  I'm gonna kick you if I pass you. You're definitely not catching up to me So we found out it's sprinting sprinting is better. I am dead. I found a baby car in the door We must kill him. This is better than crater. You know why? Why because you have so much more space Oh, is that killer whale t-rex still here? Oh god, that's a baby mic I'm gonna spring up in the crocodile's mouth Ah, oh it does damage Oh, I didn't know that when you spring up from the of the burrow it does damage Hop around with him. The baby is dead Oh, no, he's not Is it? Oh, yeah, he's definitely dead. This guy's tongue out like really Winnie, let's hang out with the Moses. Look what you're I can do. I'm magic. Oh look.  Yeah, yeah, yeah, get him go get him Okay, okay, go baby go baby I got him.  He's running away. Get him.  He's afraid. Wait. Oh, he's running. Oh, I don't think so, buddy Got him. Got him. Got him Got him. Got him. Got him. It's so tricky He's so small Okay, I'm still I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm okay. Hold on. Yeah, hold on Yeah, I wrapped him. Yes Okay, I got him. I got him. I got him. I got him again. He's bleeding a lot Okay, okay, my health's pretty low.  I want to have a look How's his teeth? What they look like They're nice teeth. Oh, there's other things looking.  We're doing some dental inspections here today Dentals. Yes. The molest. There's no molest. That's that's worrying. He needs his molest That's my little cheetah teeth thing. Oh, this guy wants his teeth checked too. Say, ah Let's see. Let's check the teeth Let's check Check checking the teeth Okay, well now they can go off and use their amazing teeth in whatever that is Ah, I got run over by adult cheetah teeth Oh Oh, look the crocodile came back for me to look at his teeth again. Okay. Let's see. What's the damage? There we go Okay, okay. Let's see what the damage is All right, so good I think you need 25 fillings What? That'll be five million dollars Okay, then well, what's your what's your analysis then races See, that's why he came to me and not you Wow, you gave him a billion dollars worth of fillings No millions of dollars worth of fillings Whitney. Actually Look, look you see this one here that one there. Yes, that Yep, that's the only good one everything else bad. See it. Look at it. It's all horrible. Wow. I see it I see it right there. That one that one No, not that one not that one No This yes, okay this one Look how bad they are.  There was more. Okay. Let's have a look at this guy. Oh, this one's better He only needs A million dollars worth of fillings. Oh, wow Interesting. Yes. Have you got health insurance? If not, this is going to be very costly for you Yes, very Yes, I see Ponsels. Uh-huh. Does he have any stones? That's not very good. That's very nice. Very nice. That'll be another million dollars And when you pay the million dollar bill, I'll give you a schticken. There we go. That was the dentist episode. Okay Oh, look at this guy. He's looking cool with those kinds Look at this. What is this? Ah, he just whacked me. He whacked me. Oh, wait the dragon. Yeah That's an Ophodododon. Ophodododon. Diculous Oh, looky, what's his teeth done? Let's brush his teeth Brush the teeth. Oh god. I'm in the mouth again. Are you being grabbed again? He's like, you're mine. I'm gonna take it to the water. No, don't put me in the water I can't swim very well.  Uh-oh the spinos protecting you I think He was he was gonna bite him and then he decided, oh, okay I can't swim.  It's like, oh, yeah Come join the snuggle pile. I won in. Let me in the cuddle party. Oh, oh god. T-rex joined in the cuddle party Oh, yeah, he's put his head on his final He's like, yeah Why is everyone putting me in their mouth? I don't like this origin. I think he's gonna stop I don't like it. I don't like it at all. Maybe that's why the t-rex picked me up Oh, Jesus All right, then well that's the tackle I'm going to cover the cover the cover the cover there she is Okay. Bye. Okay. Bye Bye-bye


Hi folks. We'll get started in a couple of minutes. If you can add your name and any agenda items for the meeting next. We appreciate it. All right. Well, let's see. I'm going to open my screen. Does anyone have any agenda items to add that they haven't already had it verbally call it out. If you don't hear me, I may have knocked my audio out. No, we can hear you. I hit the truth and I hit something else. I thought it went away. All right. Does anyone have anything for today? Probably one of the things that I want, just as you mentioned, during the coupon was, at least I have multiple times this video documentation system. So I don't know is like, we should just take a look of some of the things that began it from that system and implementing in this working group. So, seems like some of the products are using it. So to improve the way that we documented or extract through the combination. All right. Anything else. Does anyone have anything else. Hi Tom. I have got a question, although I don't know if it's been covered elsewhere, which is what the next steps are for the CNF certification. So do we need to work to get people involved? Or is there any early feedback from people trying it out or anything? Okay, so I'll jump in then. The Co-Chair nominations are officially still open. We haven't had many. We've only have a few responses. I've asked, we want to do voting on the folks that have come in, even though there's only a few there.  So I've asked him to show us what he did, otherwise we'll set something up somewhere to go through the voting. But if you want to put your name in or know someone who might want to recommend someone and reach out to him, ask him to put their name in to the mailing list. And we'll probably do votes, have them ready by next Monday so that everyone can go in and do that process. If you haven't taken the survey, please take this Toco Focus Microsurvey so that CNCF can get feedback. Pass it out. We want to get as much feedback CNCF as possible so they're hearing what's important. And let's see. This week, I guess is a, I think there's an elephant conference that's going this week and next week is open source summit. So if folks know of any good talks happening this week or next week, then please add them to the document so that we can reference them and other people can see it. All right, Victor, tell us about Divya, you want to have the screen share? Well, I didn't have any, I mean, prepare like just her like least twice in doing the QPCON. So it seems like it's a new way to structure the documentation. The QPC provides to you as practices and divide, depending on the audience or like what are you trying to explain. So in this case it's, depending on the audience, you can provide like tutorials, reference or like, for example, for tutorials are like very specific just a step by step guide or things like the documentation is written. So, as in general, like the system tried to structure the documentation in four different categories for their understanding and I use it. So, for certain things like I provide to you recommendations, like a specific for like tutorials are like very, very specific set of steps to provide. So I know that in our case we are not provide tutorials or things like that but yeah, maybe, or things like, I don't know how to guide or maybe explanations. So we can take to you of the recommendations that are making this system. Another session that I attended in the QPCON was the presenter was explained to you of the other recommendation we're not specific about this evil system, but he was also providing some suggestions in a way that document things. I can look for my notes and try to see if I can think or find what was the session or what was recorded, but at least the evil system was mentioned in multiple sessions in the QPCON. Does it, I'm trying to, there's no here's how to get started that I'm saying. And I'm wondering, like, are we going to write and mark down as it's. No, well, this is more like the content, how the content has to be structured. I think that to the start is like the video that you didn't play it but it's a good summary like what he he was trying to accomplish. The rest of the things like the tools that you use like markdown or like I think that there is another you markdown like markdown dogs or mark dogs or something like that. Yeah, he doesn't mirror in this case, this is more like the way the documentation documentation or the content of the communication has to interact with structure. So I just think that you have to take a look. Yeah, I mean it sounds good I mean we've kind of thrown some stuff together with regards to some of the structure like the this where we wanted to put practices, you know there's not much here right now but I think Robbie was the event originally put this in. Sounds good to maybe talk about a little bit of the structure. As we're moving forward might be relevant also for Tom's question as far as like what's next and related the certification and stuff like that. Use cases and user stories we ran into some times where like this one is. This is a combination of use cases and user stories short versions of each versus the use case we had some very specific ones and then some that are more extensive. That could kind of tie in with where do you find these things is probably should all be under the doc directory anyways but as we add more content it's going to be harder to find and where to work and people contribute. If you can maybe post some more links in here regarding where they examples and stuff that we can look at and how to get started and so that we can think about how it would directly apply to the CNF working group into. Yep, yep, I can do that. I mean, at the Buddhist, at least I started with the video and the video is the explanation of the author of this system where he is a quick video where he explained all the goals and all the things. It's a good start like. But yeah I can I can provide that. Different like that. Now this is cool.  Oh I guess I am on mute. Yes, that sounds great Victor so. Yeah, any anything you provide around it, including if you have ideas like. An example skeleton of here some ways that it could be applied for use cases and user stories or the best practice or whatever you're thinking. So that we have some ideas there and that might. Some of the organization if we can get this, and if it's, it may be helpful that for people that want to contribute but don't know how to get started. Hey, oh, I was going to chime in. Go ahead there. Hey, how are you. Hey, Victor. Others is my first time attending. Nice to connect to some of you. I guess to Victor's point around documentation and and your comments around increasing visibility of it will for use cases and the growing complexity that we foresee a lot of these documentation sites there is usually some static generator where much like that Divio site there is a website that is generated from the repo. Is there something okay, is there is there something similar being done with the repo today because that might be one way to kind of leverage as documentation grows and complexity increases around it and we start to leverage things like the these best practices for documentation that that would make it more accessible and human readable rather than trying to navigate like a repo. I think there's a balance that we got to have with the Kubernetes and CNC F community on folks that like to work out of a repo and the markdown and everything and then people that are happy to have the external and the people willing to maintain either or both. But I'm, you know, we've talked about having something that could generate. I don't know how to get over the etiquette docs, Tom, but let's see, what's the best way, and a kid. Go ahead, Ariel. So it's CNT T dot read the docs.org. There you go. Right. And I believe some of those things are triggered, like you wouldn't have to write twice right the idea is that you're taking the same content and just publishing it to different places so I believe I forget what we use in the past but it could be triggered on a commit to or emerge into the master branch where it would automatically generate the. Yeah, an update. Exactly. So, so, so these ones the etiquette docs are done using read the docs, the SAS platform. I know other projects use get our pages so we wouldn't even need to do any kind of work with with read the docs or the Sphinx build process or anything we just turn on get our pages within our repo. We use the path that we want to have built in that static way. And then, as you say, it's just, you know, we change content. It's reflected in the HTML within a minute. Cloud Native Principles site, this networking cloud. It's using get book, which is a similar so you, you're going to put everything in GitHub and it automatically any updates or commits are going to generate it so totally down for that if we can make it simple. The big thing is what are people willing to do. And I'm not personally wanting to switch over to a completely different language, separate from markdown, like a markup language, like I don't want to start writing, I don't know, whatever it would be. Yeah, RSP, put it right in XML, that's going to generate it that way. I mean, if someone else wants to write it all and convert it and I'm willing to add content to it, but I probably wouldn't be down for being a part of the conversion myself. But if it's something that we can keep. We can just make some modifications I believe in the past I don't know what the current is Tom. In the past there was, it wasn't completely compatible with with standard markdown and there was quite a bit of problems with some, some things. But the CNF working group already has a lot of pre, pre merge test for markdown. So we're pretty good on that side. So I think that pretty, pretty much any system that builds off of markdown, we would have a good base for. Yeah, yeah. So with the, with the read the docs thing because it uses Sphinx, it expects standard markdown, GitHub has its own flavor of markdown, but GitHub pages, which is the kind of GitHub static web hosting thing is obviously completely aware of and supports their own flavor of markdown so I've used both, both are fine with the markdown that we use. I'm happy to sort of put together an example, using our pages just to show how easy it is if that would help. All right. I think some of the benefit that we get from there is when you talk about some of those things that are maybe like buried away, or that it's difficult. But as we look here at the, at the, the table of contents of the navigation is as an end user when I come here, and I'm coming for a specific use case, let's say, or a specific practice or some document all of a sudden by having the navigation. I have a high level kind of view into what's included here in a way that when I'm just navigating the repo. I may not have that. I may not have that that mechanism for discovery available in the same way. Yeah, I would argue that I'm okay with that in general, I would argue that it's just a medium though, and it's really how much effort are people going to put into it because I can make. It kind of forces you as the only thing. These read the docs and get book it auto generates some of that stuff so if people aren't creating it, it's going to kind of force you there and it expects you to have a few files named a certain things.  It's more of, are you going to make the effort to actually organize your things which I think goes back to what Victor is saying as far as being thoughtful about who are your end users and how are they coming in. Right now the newest Anakin docs looks better than I can tell Tom that they've been updated. There it's it's nicer to come in at this point, then it was in the past. Yeah, they've three where you are, and that's not because of the medium this is a little bit on the being thoughtful about where they come in and what may they care about. We're still going to need to do that in the working group so when you come in here. And, you know, how do how do you get started what do they want to do people that are being sent here. What do they want to do, you know, a lot of people don't put stuff here we don't. Rather than you can click the read me but you can actually put links and stuff here in these people are going to still make their way to the repo. So I think being thoughtful about what do the end users care about. We need to do that. And then whatever medium and tools we use will build on that and don't expect the tools to fix those problems. Yeah, I agree with you. I think we have to account for consumers versus contributors, I think we all start as consumers and however we can consume the content and structure and organization is definitely an important element of that and and also how you consume it right the medium is is also important I think the beauty of what we're talking about with read the docs is that we wouldn't have to move away, necessarily from like with the creation point still lives in and the creator experience still lives in GitHub, just the consumption is kind of you know we're translating the markdown into something that is structurally and visually easier to consume. Sounds good. I'm totally down for sending people to and probably if we think beyond the just the CNF working group that going back to what Tom was saying. So the CN certification where to send people Tom is CNC FAO CNF that's where I would start and really with regards to this, the certification is just it's another part of the same goals that we've had. And you and I Tom have been talking about for three years now. Sorry, I don't want to leave you hanging but I need to drop for my next call sorry. All right, that's cool. We can we can follow up about Syria. Yeah, cool. Thanks. Same, same goal. We're trying to make it easy for telecom folks who to adopt cloud native best practices, which really means how do we work in this in cloud environments in a better way, rather than using, you know, duck taper. It works but it's not taking an advantage of the fact that you're in a cloud environment, and that's really the idea with all of these things. So, if we have a aerial and Victor as well if we have a place where we can send them for the CNF working group. And I think this would be the same for the CNF test suite. Where they can come in and just something like a landing page the same as what we have for the certification. And they can get started and know how to, you know, contribute what what we're doing and how to work in it, then that sounds like a good idea. One thing that we've done in the past but haven't done as much lately would be tying. We're reading how the different initiatives work together in a documented fashion. On the calls and these, these calls and presentations and everything else we've talked about it. But I think we need to update the docs on the working group, the test suite, and the certification page to kind of tie them all together. And make sure people can get between the different areas and see how they, how they collaborate. Hi Oliver hi Kent, I don't know where y'all came in. Does anyone have any questions or comments. Ariel you got anything else. And nothing to add right now either. I did appreciate the conversation though they're on the documentation system so I just, I mean I didn't share any views there. But I guess the only thing I would say is I'm plus one for for the idea of making end user experience. It's not easy because not everyone comes from, you know, from the, the get lab get work, you know, get hub. And that might seem striking as a surprise for some of you but I think you know just making the output of what we do easy to consume is a good thing so yeah just nothing else to add today. Happy to have your help if you have time and a willing and you've done a lot on the etiquette side to make sure that we can also do it, we can, which basically with the glossary team, they have evolved the, the glossary to something more. I mean, I know they are translating the terms to multiple languages and providing these nice website using more tools and things like that so as you can see now they have like a eight languages. So and they have a more user friendly or more consumer approach. So, so let's see we can learn two things from there. Yeah, I sounds great. And you can see there, they have marked down for all of it. And I'm not sure what the system that they're using. I think that they're using the same system that it is using for the government website. What is it. It's a static website generator. Yeah. Well, and if people I mean it sounds like a lot of people are passionate about this be great. If we can come to a decision, we don't have to today but we can put some ideas up here for the system. Yeah, I do really like the glossary to. I know that there's a lot of styling and stuff going on there. We'd probably get some help on the styling side if we don't have any of us trying to go back. If we don't have anybody that's directly in call we probably reach out since you have a team that worked on this and maybe able to get some help for something like this. If we don't go with something like the read the docs or get books. If we get some ideas posted on here and then talk through those and then once we select a system. Everybody that seems passionate can help us get get it up and running and get more people in anything else on this or any other topic. We only have one last one here question. Alright, so there's been some requests for a little while about moving the CNF working group back a bit earlier time. So the main idea would be move it back one hour. It moved forward when the time change because we're locked to a UTC time 1600 UTC. So we'd move it to 1500 UTC, but really what we're saying is it would be 8am Pacific and we just wouldn't change it. It would stay that even with time change. So it'll be about the same time a day for everybody rather than this shift. I think for some folks it's 5 or 6pm in Europe and of course some people it's going to be even later, but that would move it back a little bit without being a conflict with other calls except for I think the telecom user group shift. So we may have to do some adjustments on that one call, but that's only every other month right now. We'll put up a doodle poll I guess, but is there any maybe I'm just going to put 8am I want to hear some feedback plus ones are no way for folks on the call. In my case I'm okay with this time. So, Akash, Oliver. I'm fine with it. I've calculated what it means, but yeah. Who else? I heard someone else for a moment. Ariel. It's part of me. It's not a big deal on the east coast. So I'm pretty Central European time zone friendly in the US. I don't think we're going to have any more time changes. I believe the law here we just went through our final time change here in the US. But I don't know if we're going to switch again or if we're locked into the current time I know we're getting rid of it. Yeah, I'm fine with it as well. Taylor is all over. All right. I thought that I hope that they actually switch our time to the other time Ariel. Before they lock it. But other than that, not having a time change sounds good. All right. We'll put up a doodle poll but nobody said no. Did you say something can or somebody else say it? I thought I heard one more voice. Besides the one I've heard just now. Wasn't me. It wasn't me. All right. Well, we'll put up a doodle poll. It'll be there. It'll be there for next week, but we'll post it in the channel. We won't switch next week, but maybe the following week. We'll get switched. Please do the telco focused micro survey and nominate yourself if you want to be up for voting or tell someone else to do so. Thanks everyone. See you next week. Thank you.