Hey there, Chad Bonji here for High University Libraries. If you're looking to explore the feasibility of opening a restaurant, whether it be a franchise or a restaurant that might be a competitive franchise, you may want to look at the location of people who frequent those restaurants at the state or county or zip code level. This video demonstrates how to get that data using a database called SimplyMap. And for my example, we're going to look at a restaurant called Zaxby's, which is a chicken finger restaurant. Look at the number of consumers or percentage of consumers by county in the state of Tennessee who go to that restaurant. And then we'll also show the locations of the restaurant in those counties. So here you go. So when you first get to SimplyMap, you have the option to create an account. I would create an account because it actually will remember what you were working on last time. Once you do that, or if you don't want to do that, you can sign in as a guest. But once you sign out, it won't remember your map, so your data, that sort of thing. So I'm going to sign in as me. And I've actually closed all my tabs out so you'll see what it looks like when you first come in and start fresh. OK? So you either have the option to create a map or a standard report, or if you want to do a ranking, you can go up here and do that or change the report type here if you want. For the purpose of this demonstration, I'm actually just going to do a map. And you can start here with your map wizard, or in order of maps, you've got to have a location and a variable. OK? So I'm going to do variables. And I want to use the Simmons data down here, the Simmons local. And this is the same kind of Simmons data that's available in the Simmons 1D database of which we also subscribe here at Ohio University. So you can see it's kind of broken down the same way. So I'm going to use Zaxby's again as my example. So here we have our fast food restaurants. Let's see, visit the last month. And if we scroll down here, we should have a listing for, went too far, sorry. There's Zaxby's percent who visited a Zaxby's in the last month. Let's just use that one. Let's just use this variable. And if we close out here, what it's going to do, because we're doing a map, it's going to go in into the United States there. And this makes sense. If you look at this map here, like, wow, nobody visited Zaxby's in the last month. Well, that makes sense. So if you look at the locations of Zaxby's, that pretty much falls in line with the actual location of our map here in SimplyMap. So let's go back to locations here. And let's change those to states.  OK, so let's go and choose Tennessee. Use this location. And now this will drill down, close this out. This will drill down to the state of Tennessee level. And so here we can see, by county, where the highest percentage of people who are projected to have eaten at a Zaxby's restaurant in the last month live. We can also do something else here. We can overlay this with locations of Zaxby's restaurant. So if we go under Businesses here, and we can go in and say Add a Condition, where the name contains, and let's do Zaxby's. I'm going to try this and do Show Businesses here. And so this gives us, if we highlight this guy here, this gives us Zaxby's restaurant, et cetera, et cetera. So that's a good way to kind of identify locations of Zaxby's restaurants, in this case, by percentage of people who have eaten at a Zaxby's. Another real cool feature about this, if you can go in and under Actions here, you can export the map image for your PowerPoint. You can also, and that'll save as a PDF or a PDF or JPEG file for your PowerPoint. You can also go in and make a report from the businesses. And this is kind of neat, so if you want basically a list of all the businesses in that area, and this will be the highlighted area of Tennessee here, we can make a report from the businesses. And so this will give us basically the list of all the Zaxby's in those areas, okay? And then we want to and go up here and export this as an Excel file for later use. So that's a good way to kind of identify, using this map, places where Zaxby's are located by the percentage of people who have eaten at a Zaxby's.  So if you wanted to kind of change this to your new color coding of your brand, you can go in here and click on the colors here and choose whatever color you wish, or you can change it to one of the three other default color schemes there as well in order to make a more customized map. And then once again, you can change that display option under the actions here and export the image to your PDF or to your PowerPoint. So that's how you would use the mapping feature in CipriMap to identify locations of a particular restaurant consumer, and then overlay that with the names of potential competitors or the names of businesses in the area. Should anymore help with CipriMap or any other database? Look for the contact link on the business blog. Glad to help you anyway. Can't take care and have a great day.


Welcome to the 11th meeting of the Culture, Tourism, Europe and External Relations Committee in 2017. I would like to remind everyone to turn mobile phones to silent and any members using electronic devices to access committee papers should ensure that they are switched to silent also. We have received apologies today from Richard Lochhead MSP and Tavish Scott MSP. Today the committee will be holding a round table discussion with young i weithio i dduwi'r rhiystau neu ddodol, i gydigio'r unedig iawn i gyntafol i unedig i siart yn eu direin. Dyna gael i gydigio angen o'r mynedigiaeth i chi ddechrau'r ffordd, ac yn ymddi'r shifaig yma, sy'n dod o'r merthyn Rhaglen. Felly, mae'n gydigio yma yn gwybod eich byw ymddewch chi'n gwheilu'r rhiystau been figured out before tonight. Before the meetings, participants were separated into four groups, each of which was allocated a specific topic. They include the economy, education, the environment and human rights. Two representatives in each group have very kindly agreed to speak on behalf of their group in this evidence session this afternoon, so it is my pleasure to welcome to the meeting Kirsty Smith from East movingsure Ymgynghori zebra, Maddie Chambers, East Renfrewshere Youth Forum, that group has been focused on the economy. Martijn Bezenius of the EU Society at Edinburgh University, and Maximilian Crichtts of the EU Society at Edinburgh University, and their group has focused on education issues. We also have Heather Cameron of the Scottish Youth Parliament and Lauren O'Keefe from the French concludede, and, Finally, David Chupw hackw, of Voice of My Own, and Lara Carmarchy of the East L VPN Youth Council, whose group has been looking at human rights. Thank you all very much for agreeing to participate on behalf of your groups. Before we consider the specific areas that you have been discussing in more detail, I'd like to begin by asking all the groups to perhaps share with the committee how they think that negotiations have progressed since the EU referendum result? Perhaps the economy group would like to begin. I think that surrounding the negotiations and indirect relation to the referendum itself, we see that a lot of the individuals in our nation were extremely uninformed or perhaps even misinformed due to the bias media, and we see that another problem is the access to the information, which is also another problem that we didn't feel as dealt with in relation to the negotiations. Our committee or group felt that there was not enough publication for the public to make a sound and informed decision on what they were supposed to vote in the referendum. On top of that, we also see that politicians and Governments are not informed enough to make a sound decision on what they are proposing and what they are supposed to do. We feel that the level of publication regarding negotiations on Brexit has not been to the extent that we would have hoped it to be so that people could be informed on what they were supposed to do. Thank you. Can we move to the education group now? So our group believes that students are already under a lot of pressure because of academic work, because they have to find a job later. Some of the students suffer from those pressures and the uncertainties surrounding Brexit and the uncertainties in the negotiations so far or in the pre-negotiations, they have only added to that and they increased the pressure on students because there are uncertainties about funding, about the Erasmus programme, about opportunities in the labour market, etc. So adding to that, I think it is really important to give young people a voice in the Brexit negotiations or in talks about Brexit because it's mainly their future that is at stake, as the young people will be most affected by Brexit. I think that the main concern that we've had with the negotiations since the referendum has been just the level of insecurity and uncertainty surrounding our futures and all the concerns that we have surrounding employment opportunities, education, uni, studying abroad and travelling, while we need to get visas for that. Those might not even be real concerns but we've just got nobody's clarified for us what's going to happen. Another issue that we have had that was raised was underrepresentation from a wide range of people when people are going to speak to the European Union about how we Brexit, essentially. A lot of the people who have been going to speak to the EU have been older, white, male, heterosexual and enable-bodied and there is a wide variety of people in this country who have not had a full representation from negotiations. Thank you, David. Lauren and Heather. So we're just concerned again about how young people will be represented in the negotiations considering over three quarters of young people voted to remain in the EU and also the consistent talk about Brexit being a hard Brexit. It was almost a 50-50 split vote, so why is it not a soft Brexit and who's representing the remainers as well? Thank you. Heather. There was concern about what Brexit actually means, which I think we're all asking ourselves, but especially when many young people couldn't actually vote for the terms of Brexit to be decided only by politicians and not in a democratic way, was frustrating for many of the young people in our group. Also, the young people expressed concerns about Theresa May's wanting unity in Westminster when actually we need opposition to discuss better what Brexit actually means and that for the young people who couldn't vote in the referendum, again, they can't necessarily vote in the upcoming election, so there is a lack of engagement with young people there. Thank you, Heather. That's all very useful. Thank you all for those opening comments. We are rather tight for time because we need to finish the session before Parliament's plenary session opens it, too. I'm going to move straight on to ask you to address us about your particular topic areas, starting with the economy committee. First of all, I'm going to talk about the effect of organisations regarding the economy. Our group basically felt that, regarding trade, organisations are going to start pulling out of the UK, which obviously has a knock-on effect on the UK's worth and the UK's making money and thriving as an economy. We felt that, going for a hard Brexit, which another group touched upon, we felt that, because of the 50-50 split, we would not want to go with that. That, regarding the economy, not being part of the single market and trade deals with movement of people, movement of products and goods was not the right course of action to take. We also saw that, regarding people from EU citizens who are living in the UK currently, a lot of them—we have a real-life example—have had ideas of wanting to start up organisations in the UK and feel a great amount of uncertainty, because there has been, as we have previously said, a lack of publication in the media for them to make informed decisions based on that. Now, partner, we will touch up on some more issues. Getting back to the idea of the individual, we see a security blanket structure relating to freedom of movement within the UK and EU membership. We do not see that in other countries, and that is why we see the desire to work or travel within the EU, which we do not get with places such as America, due to the lack of safety in relation to visas and other issues. We see that that assurance is vital to the UK principles, and we feel that if we take away the security blanket, we would lose business prospects, as those individuals would feel that they would be happier and safer to return to their home country to start business prospects and to study, which is really detracting from the UK and its economy as we lose those business prospects of those individuals who have new ideas and who can bring new things and new skills to our nation as a whole. We see that that is extremely detrimental to our economy in relation to the freedom of movement. On top of that, we discussed the creative industry and the funding that goes into this from the EU. We also felt that that would have a knock-on effect on organisations and further careers for not only UK citizens but EU citizens studying in the UK, because the creative industry—a lot of it—is highly funded by the EU. Without that funding, we see that as a disastrous thing that could possibly mean less creativity within careers and choices and opportunities for young people. I am now going to open up to members who may have some questions for you specifically. I was interested in the point about people from EU countries who had plans or were thinking about setting up organisations in the UK. Am I right in taking that to be businesses-type organisations? What is the impact on them? I think that you said that it means that people have to think twice because they do not have the information that they need. Is there a particular area where the information could be made available earlier, where it really matters, to allow people to make those decisions? Yes, definitely with trade, because organisations and businesses work for profit. If they have no idea what the trading scheme is going to be like with countries in the EU, because we are not in the single market because of a hard Brexit, then lots of them are not going to take that risk in not having a high enough profit to thrive as an organisation. So it is really around the trade stuff. Do citizens' rights come into this as well? In other words, the right of people to do these things? I definitely think that human rights come into the economy a lot, as the economy affects the individual. We definitely see that there is a mutualistic relationship, because both the country and the individuals who are native to the UK or EU nationals have assets that they both provide for one another. We provide the individuals with high-quality education, safety and security, and they provide us with new skills and assets, so we think that that is very beneficial. Is there an impression that Scotland and the UK are a welcoming business culture, but, with Brexit, that is going to change? Currently, is there an impression that Scotland and the UK is a welcoming business culture and that it is open for opportunities for people who are non-UK nationals to set up, but, with Brexit, that is going to be challenged? Yes, that is what we are saying that it is definitely going to be challenged because of that security blanket that we previously spoke about, which is being removed. A lot of young people who come to universities here, say from America, who have to have a visa, can often feel kind of under-threatened to put pressure on themselves mentally as well, to work hard in their education so that they do not get knocked back. We feel that this is going to have a knock-on effect on mental states of EU citizens as well, who are coming over to learn and get educated because that is another added pressure on to young people, which is simply not needed. I will move on to the next group. Who would like to go next? Perhaps the group who is looking at the education issues. First and foremost, our group has recognised the importance of education and especially the importance of higher education. Nowadays, you are more or less need a degree if you want to succeed or at least to have an edge on a very competitive job market. But this importance puts a lot of pressure on the students and on the health of the students, also on the mental health, and this pressure is even higher because of the uncertainties of Brexit. So we in our group, we have more or less all benefited from the advantages of EU membership, both Scottish students who benefit from the Erasmus programme, from EU funds, from having a diversity in the classrooms, but also on the other hand international students, just as ourselves, us too, who got to study in Scotland. But regarding the pressure that exists now on young people, we have discussed several concerns. I would just outline some of the concerns. One of the main concerns was the Erasmus programme, which benefits many students at the moment. There is a cultural exchange going on, language skills, social skills that people can learn through an Erasmus programme. For example, Scottish students going abroad, learning another language and also European students coming here and experiencing Scottish culture. We fear that if the Erasmus programme is stopped for UK nationals, this cultural exchange will be lost. Also for Scottish students, for example, the Erasmus programme represents an opportunity for them to go abroad, as some couldn't even afford going abroad, as the Erasmus fund exists, for example, where you get around 400 euros a month to go study abroad. So the scrapping of the Erasmus programme is a major concern of people in our group and students in general, I think. Then there's the other issue of funding that comes from the EU, mainly to research in our universities. As we know, there are many world-class Scottish universities. Already now, apparently, there are less people who are willing to come and do research at UK universities due to the uncertainty. Also, the research funding might get stopped, which is especially concerned for smaller universities who might have less funding, and so there's a lot of research that might not be able to be carried out. Then there's also other EU funding that goes to regions in the Highlands or the islands, for example, such as education programmes such as one that's called Outward Bound and education programmes in the Highlands. Also such things might... There's a question about if this funding will be replaced by a UK-wide funding or Scottish funding, but until then, there's a question about how such programmes will be able to survive after Brexit. Then there's also the question of EU students coming into Scottish universities about whether they will have to pay tuition fees after Brexit or also about whether, in the future, their degrees will still be recognised outside of the UK. As for now, we have the Bologna process where all EU degrees have the same standing, but nobody knows how this is going to develop in the future. Lastly, there's also the concern of EU students studying in Scotland or the UK at the moment about whether they are allowed to stay after Brexit and whether they will need a visa in the future or whether they can get a job here. So now we will get some recommendations. So, just very briefly, we want to give some recommendations to the committee that we deem important in our group or what we wish to, which is to secure the Erasmus programme, to secure funding for research but as well as for student support. We hope that young people will be given more voice in the negotiations for example through consultations with think tanks such as the Scottish Youth Parliament, but we also appreciate this event as a very important step in engaging young people in the Brexit debate. We also want to commit to continuing free higher education for EU nationals, which attracts many of them to Scotland and also attracts, well, which also boosts the economy because it brings a lot of money. Finally, what we deem very important is to improve mental health services for students who suffer from the pressures of higher education, which has now increased due to Brexit. Okay, thank you very much and I'd like to start the questions to your group myself. I wonder if you could give us any indication of you talked about the beneficial effects of EU students studying at Scottish universities on the Scottish economy. In your experience, in your group's experience, are there many examples of EU students staying in Scotland after they graduate to foreign businesses and perhaps even start families and make a life for themselves? One of the committee has taken evidence that one of the big challenges for Scotland is demographic and that we need more young people living and working here, so has the free tuition for EU students at Scottish universities helped that process? Speaking from personal experience and from the friends that I have and who study in Scotland, international students, many of them stay in the UK, especially London, which I think is some kind of sponge which takes on all the students and a lot of students from Scotland and international students who come to Scotland, but also a lot who stay in Scotland and who stay, well, mostly in the big cities, Edinburgh, Glasgow, maybe in Aberdeen. So the free higher education for you nationals in Scotland has a very attractive factor because it is a high-class education that you would not get otherwise at low cost or no cost. I just wanted to add to that being an EU student myself when I came to the UK to study at first, I thought, oh, maybe I'm going to stay after and get a job and make a life here. But now, knowing the uncertainty of Brexit, and I also know that a lot of my friends coming from the EU are now saying, no, we're going back because it's just too uncertain what's going to happen in a couple of years. You don't want to get settled, and then in a few years you have to leave. Thank you very much. Do you want to, Ross Greer? You touched on it a little bit in your opening remarks about us potentially not being able to attract as many students from the rest of the EU into our universities in the first place. So not just the insecurity of those who are currently here, but of being able to persuade anyone else to come and study. I've seen that already spoken to an Austrian high school group who were visiting, two of whom were planning on applying and were seriously reconsidering it because of Brexit. You mentioned some policy changes or policy clarification that we could make, like clarity over funding. What can we do in terms of the overall message to young people elsewhere in Europe to persuade them that this is still a welcoming country, that this is still a place that they would be more than welcome to come and to live and study and contribute? How can we get that message out there? From the top of my head, I cannot think of a specific policy that could be, like maybe Martin, if you want to think about it in the next 30 seconds. But I think that a big effort has to be made because of what you hear on the continent, on the mainland, and me coming from the continent, I know that myself, what you hear mostly is English media talking about Brexit and you hear about the Conservative government and Theresa May and the snap election, et cetera, et cetera. What you don't really get, and also students who are interested in studying in the UK potentially, is the attraction of Scotland. Again, I can't think now specifically of a policy action that could be taken, but an increased effort should be made. Or maybe there could be actually something, because again, I think England was very vocal now in promoting England and Britain. I think Prince Charles and Camilla just came to Europe on a trip, but I didn't know about any Scots who come to Europe. Or maybe Nicola Sturgeon, who is travelling to different governments and heads of states and talks about Scotland. So I think that could be a first step to say the first minister should go and talk to the different heads of states in Europe. I just want to add to that. I think the first step would be that they have to be, their insecurities have to be stopped, so there needs to be a guarantee to some extent that they won't need to pay tuition fees and that they won't need a visa at some point, so that the point of the entry into education here for the length of their studies, they will be able to stay and no increase in tuition fees. Nothing then also just maybe Scotland could start a campaign or so to say we are European friendly, we love European students, something like that maybe. Thank you very much Lewis MacDonald. Yeah, just a couple of things on those issues about reassurance. I think one reassurance that's important to mention, I think Martine mentioned the Bologna process whereby qualifications are recognised between different European countries, that's independent of the European Union and extends to many European countries out with European Union. So I think it's important to say that that's not in any direct sense at risk unless somebody somewhere was to take a strange and bizarre decision unconnected with leaving the EU. So I think that's one assurance. The other question, though, I saw this morning that the EU's negotiating guidelines for the Brexit negotiation with the UK had been amended to say that the EU is looking for an automatic right for citizens who have lived here for five years to remain in the UK. Would that outcome as part of the Brexit negotiations be reassuring to those who are here at the moment and also to those who might come in future as students? I think definitely if there was a guarantee that people who have lived here for five years that they can stay here that would be a great reassurance already. More ideally even that would be after three or four years because as you know university degrees in Scotland they're four years, in England they're three years so there's still a degree of uncertainty because if you come to Scotland or to Edinburgh and study for four years you don't know well what's going to happen in that year that's missing for me to have a right to stay and there could be many obscure policies that can prevent you to get work or whatever maybe. So I think it's a good step in the right direction but maybe a shorter time period would be even better. Thank you. Your points regarding the Erasmus scheme and encouraging students to take part I think are well made. I studied in France, Germany and in Sweden and I had the time of my life as well as working very hard I hasten to add but certainly when I did my masters I qualified for, because back to your point regarding funding, I secured funding through the European social fund and I think that is a fund that certainly in Scotland is more considered to be helping local areas but here's a fund that actually had that benefit of helping individuals as well as local areas so I think that the point regarding funding is also well made. You've raised a number of other areas which I'm not going to touch upon because colleagues have already done so but I think your point also regarding research and the challenge facing Scottish universities when we do come out in terms of encouraging researchers to come here but also the research funding from Europe and the question as to where that funding will come from is absolutely valid. On that point, looking at it from your perspective and your contemporaries' perspective as young people who are choosing an institute to study across Europe, would you say that there's a great deal of competition between higher education institutions across Europe and Brexit might put our higher education institutions at a disadvantage given the competitiveness in terms of attracting students in the package that students are offered? That's definitely possible. For now the UK just attracts with very high class and world leading research and world leading research institutions such as the universities in Scotland and from the fact that you can just go there study and then go back you don't need a visa it's not a hassle. Without that I think it would be different because then I might say well I could also go maybe to the Netherlands which also offer English speaking degrees so I don't have to speak Dutch for that I can just go there no hassle and study that and get a good degree. I don't think that it's going to be a very dramatic disaster that no one will come to the UK anymore but many people will think twice about it and it might be very bright minds that I'll go somewhere else. Thank you very much. We'll now move on to David and Lara for your presentation on human rights. Thank you very much. One of the first concerns that we have concerning human rights is who the government is talking to for post-Brexit trade deals. In particular Saudi Arabia and China we have concerns over their human rights records and I know that we're never going to find a utopian country we're never going to find a place that is going to be 100% wonderful in every single way but I personally do have concerns over and our group had concerns over you know talking to countries who execute people for being gay and you know countries who block off internet access to their people so that they cannot properly educate themselves on what is happening in the world so that was our first concern over human rights. Also the EU was in charge of the charter of fundamental human rights which ensured things such as anti-discrimination measures and gender equality measures were kept up across the EU and so far nothing's been announced that will replace that or assure that this will still continue across the UK in a post-Brexit of Britain. Another thing that has not been fully officially confirmed is the security of rights of EU migrants and I know that Mr McDonnell the Labour Party denounced this morning something about securing EU migrants rights but currently the government do not have any sort of plan over this and it's very concerning that people's livelihoods are being played around with you know as bargaining chips and also Gibraltar is something as you know former prime minister is going on to Sunday politics shows and saying we want to go to war with Spain that's also concerning and it's almost as though the government do not understand that people these people are real and that they exist and they have lives and that's another concern that we've had. To follow on from David's point there you said about the five-year plan that the Labour side of people have been living for five years would be guaranteed but since June that's not been the case that's not existing now EU citizens in the UK have had no certainty that they would be allowed to stay here the government have simply been using their lives as bargaining chips and to speak from personal experience I come from a family of Spanish migrants I've got Spanish citizenship I only recently just got a British passport two weeks ago and my mum's now having to go at permanent residency and change her citizenship simply out of complete uncertainty about our futures it's not. Moving on to tourism and human rights there's a very long list of facts that I have in 2015 36.1 million overseas tourists came into the UK and contributed £22.1 billion to the economy but in July last year the home office reported a 41% increase in religion and race based hate crimes in England and Wales compared to July 2015 the two weeks and the day of the EU referendum 31 police forces reported almost 1,550 race and religious based hate crimes the two weeks after that spiked up to 2,241 after the EU referendum Polish communities received leaflets being called vermin an Iranian Kurdish asylum seeker was attacked in London we also cannot forget the Westminster attack and the foreign nationals that passed away during that attack because of homegrown terrorism and I personally have had numerous experiences of of race based hate crimes which has increased ever since the 23rd of June however I do want to make the point that what I am not trying to say is that every single person who voted for brexit has some sort of race based intolerance to myself or to anyone who you know is from a different country we I was speaking to a person over lunch who was an SNP voter and voted to leave the European Union as well and I think that it is also it would be good if we had more representation from people who voted for brexit who are more liberally minded and more open to you know and who are not as intolerant as perhaps other people who voted for the same the same idea we also discussed that all these acts of racism come from a place of not quite ignorance but like lack of knowledge of other cultures and other religions so we think that there should be more in place to educate people of other ways of life especially to ensure acceptance in society especially in a post-brexit maybe slightly more isolated UK where people won't have maybe not won't have the right to freedom of travel to explore these cultures themselves because of monetary problems we had a young lady in our group whose sister was abused for wearing the hijab and you know it's things like freedom of expression freedom of religious expression things like you know so-called integration policy that was announced by the UK independence party things like that fill people with fear and you know from a personal point of view that stuff like that where expression of religion could be harmed is very worrying very worrying indeed and yeah that was almost all that we had I think we need to just remember that being different is definitely something that should be celebrated and should bring people together especially in these uncertain political times thank you very much for that and David you said that you had to personal experience so you don't have to answer this if you don't feel comfortable with it but your personal experience of racial comments do you think that that has increased since Brexit and can you absolutely relate them to Brexit? I would say that they have increased since Brexit would I equate that to Brexit? I think I would answer yes to that and there is another point that we I think we missed out was people in the public eye making comments that do not have the a few years ago if they had made those comments would have been you know shut down and would have been stopped but now are not as not as criticised and not as chappered if you know what I mean and do you are you thinking particularly about politicians are you thinking about the media and both both Carmena is that also your family's experience? Yeah I mean definitely I think since brexit and since everything that's going on in the American elections there's been a lot more racist attitudes that have been stirred up and brought into the public eye that would have previously been shut down and this has caused an increase in people being less accepting of others that's affected people negatively definitely. I'm bringing in Lewis MacDonald. Yeah thanks very much just I guess there's two different aspects of human rights that you've both highlighted one as they affect European Union citizens here in this country but also as they affect all of us living in this country everyone living in this country. The first of those can be addressed in the brexit negotiation hopefully but the second one is obviously a bigger picture is there something and David you mentioned the election campaign that's underway at the moment is there something that we should be doing or arguing for now in relation to human rights within the UK and within Scotland that we need to do more because of brexit is there a change we need to make in our domestic arrangements in order to ensure that everyone who lives here has got the fundamental human rights that you've both talked about? I think informing citizens is the most important part of that. I think a lot of people when they were looking at the issues and I think that the economy group spoke about this as well is that I don't think that there was enough publication on what the European Union does and I know Mr Gray you were part of the Green Party's Europe Spokesperson I believe and I think that it's about integrating education into manifestos, into public broadcasts things like that in order to and campaigns both you know neutral and political to make sure that people understand what things like the European Court of Human Rights is you know it's something as simple as handing a leaf out and I know that that costs money and I know that it costs energy and manpower and time but simple things like that could solve issues in the long run. It touches on exactly what you've just said David as well as being my party's Europe Spokesperson I'm also an education spokesperson so when people bring both those issues together I'm usually quite pleased. I think that you are absolutely right about the need for more education about the whole range of issues mean that you talked about more education about the variety and diversity of different cultures and faiths and traditions et cetera to foster that sense of multiculturalism that's very important I mean the one thing that I would say is that we shouldn't fetishise the right of freedom of movement I'm totally uncompromising on it I believe we absolutely should have it but simply even by having it only a very small number of young people in the UK will actually take advantage of it and will go and study somewhere else in Europe so it's not that just by having that right every young person in the UK knows exactly what every other culture in Europe is like so there's much more we need to do that aside and but it also picks up on some of the points that have been addressed before about the lack of information in the campaign about if we'd improved education not just about the society that we live in the variety of it but also that civic education about what the institutions are exactly what you were just saying about what the ECHR is or the European Court of Justice and what the European Union is as a whole and I know MEPs who say I've been here since 1990 whatever and even I don't quite know how everything works but that base level of education does need to be increased and one other question that I had for you was when you mentioned the trade deals really important point to make and there are obviously issues with that at the moment we sell arms to Saudi Arabia which many people including myself find unacceptable if we're going to be making a lot of trade deals in the next couple of years how do you think the negotiations should proceed how should we involve wider UK society in that so that it's not just Governments going away making deals that we believe compromise our values how should we involve people more in that process can I just I think it people need to be more informed first of all because like you were saying the issue on the news when Theresa May was in Saudi Arabia was about Cadbury Easter egg hunts like it all just gets very screened out there's a big filter on what we actually find out from main news channels and I think that needs to change first of all which would affect it would at least educate people into what's going on and then they can take a stand from there but if people aren't fully educated first of all then how can they develop opinions to find out actually I don't like what's going on I don't agree that we should be selling arms to Saudi Arabia if they don't know what's going on in the first place it's the the issue of being fully educated and particularly around the issues of EU and its and its past I can agree certainly with that I mean as someone who studied European business European business management I it was a it was a challenging area to actually to try to learn certainly however in terms of our school system that we have if we're to do more regarding the the teaching and the promotion of of how the European institutions actually operated and how they work then something we'd have to give because of of course at the time that the students have actually got in school so there is always a challenge it's very easy certainly for politicians to say well we need to have more education about x yr z in schooling but the challenge is the the time that students are in school. I would like to bring up that from personal experience I think one of the and I know that I'm going to be end up criticised for this one of the problems I have is the fetishisation of legacy 2012 and legacy 2014 physical education is incredibly important to our nation and I think that it's it's you know we need to make sure that our country is healthy and fit but I also do find that there is a tendency because of 2012 and 2014 and the amazing work that was done here in Scotland and down in London that they there is favouritism towards sports over the arts and over you know political education and those are you know two things I am very big on I plan to go into into the media when I leave school and I love music and art however and I do I do find joy out of out of physical education as well but I think that we need to have a you know a proper sit-down discussion about and it's you know I could go on for hours about this but making sure that there is an equal layout for different types of education to make sure that our young people are properly educated in various ways. I hope that someone from the education committee is listening to those particular comments, they can have their youth engagement event. I'd like to now invite Heather and Lauren to make their presentation on the environment issues that they've been discussing in their group. Thank you yes so our group was discussing concerns on the environment basically we feel that the environment is never prioritised in any mandate at the moment it's always at the back of the list and we're worried that some of the environmental protection laws that have been created by the EU might be lost once we leave so we're wondering if they will be maintained. There's also a lot of lessons we can take from Europe in places like Holland and Scandinavia they do a lot of initiatives like you get money for disposing bottles and things like that and there's so many more things that could be done in this country like that that we can take from Europe. We're also concerned that there was a recent configuration in Westminster concerning the Environment Committee the funds were reduced so really it's one of the biggest problems of our time and as young people this is going to be our future maybe the people who the older people who voted won't see it happen but we will so environment's really important for us. Furthermore in terms of renewable energy we can also take lessons from places like Denmark who have targets to go carbon neutral by 2050 we do have a target to reduce carbon emissions by something like 40 per cent by 2030 but there could be a lot more that could be done such as encouraging less consumption of meat and also the sustainable fishing and farming issues as well we're wondering will will they continue I know that they benefit the economy in some way especially north of Scotland all of the fishing up there but is that going to damage the environment if we don't have these regulations anymore and also a point was raised by someone in the group about nuclear energy Scotland are not not going to go forward with any more nuclear programmes when in fact it's a sustainable use of energy so and as well as that we get about two thirds of energy from Europe so how are they going to replace that replace it with renewables or just continue with fracking and things like that so leading on from the sustainable energy how also will we continue to research into environmental improvement when the UK has cut funding for this and how will we continue to make sure that our scientific research and scientific teaching is of a high standard if we're not attracting in the high quality teachers also our group was very concerned about Scottish transport many European countries have very high levels of public transport and really promote sustainable transport methods such as cycling and one of the group members raised that Holland have great cycle lanes in their cities for many young people in rural areas of Scotland getting from one place to another can be only done by driving and driving is much less sustainable than using public transport so our group was really keen for our public transport to be improved and for it to be of a sustainable quality also one member of our group raised concern about food safety if we did leave the EU because he has a very severe allergy and EU law states that restaurants must tell him if food has his allergen in it and if a problem arises then they will be liable for the accident so if this law and similar laws aren't maintained then he really could and other people like him could have severe health implications our group was also concerned about the international cooperation of Scotland and the UK about the environment because if we need to cooperate with other countries for any solution to be sustainable and long term so we really wanted to make sure that Scotland stays committed to goals such as the sustainable development goals and that we by leaving the EU that we're not diminishing the climate targets and that in fact we could take this as an opportunity to increase our climate targets and prioritise the environment thank you thank you i mean you you're obviously as perhaps not surprisingly very concerned about the environment as many young people are do you think Brexit will make it more or less likely that we can address the concerns that you have about environmental protection so our group initially i think we were concerned that leaving the EU would have a detrimental effect because so many of the environmental laws that we have in the UK are from the EU but i think we can have a more positive look and see this as an opportunity to improve so to build upon the EU standards and in fact have higher standards when we leave i think it can also be an opportunity to like look good to other countries as well if we start creating laws that are better for the environment as well as even things like animal welfare battery hens don't exist anymore because of EU laws so will we maintain and improve them we could make a make a difference i think it can see as an opportunity so just to pick up on a couple of the things that you've mentioned because i think they are i think they are important um and i think there's there's there's a little bit of depth to some of it as well so for example you talked about the importance of public transport and renewable energy now i represent the north east of scotland i'm based in abardin and in that city the european union has helped to fund the offshore wind development and deployment center which will be built in abardin bay in the next 18 months despite the the opposition of a certain donald john trump and we also have we lead europe on hydrogen buses we have the largest fleet of hydrogen powered buses in europe these are things that have been supported by european funding and european legislation but they've also been driven forward locally within the city and within scotland in the uk so so i guess my point is while while you're right to say that there is a common european standard which is supportive of good effective environmental regulation there's also opportunities to go beyond that european standard and i think what you were saying in response to the convener's question was that we should take these opportunities and that there are things we can do even better if we if we set our minds to it if we make that policy decision is that does that represent what your group felt about the the animal welfare you mentioned the welfare of pigs in captivity is higher in britain than it is anywhere else in europe because we've gone beyond european regulation so is that is that something that you see as a potential area of growth no and uh we would yeah just like to see it as a not a way to get out of these um these good laws for environment and animals and things um so yeah that's that's uh it's good to know thank you thank you i thought there was a huge amount of great stuff in there um didn't cheer me up at all because the risks are immense as as you observed the risk to our environment as it stands and to our ability to tackle climate change so you raise a huge number of really important issues in the one point i would disagree with is about nuclear power it's um it is risky but it's also expensive and it's a diversion of money that absolutely needs to be going to renewables so that we can make that transition happen but on that point i'm wondering what you think would it be more effective for us if we are going to have to make this case yet again to people in the UK about the importance in the environment the importance of tackling climate change would it be effective if we start talking about it in terms of the jobs that we'll create in renewables if we go through a transition how it's a matter of social justice because we'll be able to end fuel poverty with a more effective renewable energy infrastructure um not just social justice at home but globally as well the idea of climate justice that people are already suffering elsewhere in the world because of this if we start talking about the environment in terms of other debates economic debates social justice etc do you think that'll make it easier for us to really galvanise people around the need for the UK not to start warring standards and giving up commitments but to raise them and to make new commitments i think that's a really good point um and that will help the environment to seem more of a pertinent and pressing issue um but also i think people are beginning to become involved and interesting the environment just for its sake and i think we can see that in the rise of the number of green msps elected um and also from that businesses are pushed to become more sustainable because you know it gives them a good um public outlook so um but no i think that is a good method to go around it i know that we did have other questions but unfortunately it's five to two and we have to be wrapping up before parliament opens at two o'clock so i would like to thank all the young people who participated in our event today um the young people who have given evidence to us today um you speak to any witnesses that come before parliamentary committees and whatever age they are they tell you it can be a daunting experience i hope it hasn't been a daunting experience for you it certainly didn't sound like it because you were all extremely articulate and we really benefited from hearing what you had to say and i'd like to thank the other young people who didn't speak on the record today but i know that you had an absolutely vital role in contributing to the evidence through the workshops that informed your groups so thank you all very much for coming along today i think it's a great example of how the Scottish Parliament can reach out to groups in society that we don't hear enough of and given some of the issues around Brexit and young people i think it was very important that young people got their say today in the Scottish Parliament so thank you very much to everybody who was involved in making it happen and i now close this session of the committee thank you very much


Okay, multiplication, we did adding, we did subtracting, that's the multiplication, okay? Now you have to know your basic multiplication table and I'm gonna put that on my website and you gotta go through and fill it out, okay? You should know the stuff. You gotta know how to multiply two numbers together, two single numbers together at least, okay? But so let's take a little bit higher and do bigger numbers, okay? Let's go 25 times 12. Now the way you do this is you go with the first number for the one, to your right, okay? So two times five is zero, one comes up. Two times two is four plus one is five. Now when you go to the next digit, you gotta compensate for this guy. So you add a zero here for this and you come up here. Two times, one times five is five, one times two is two, okay? So what you have here is zero, zero, one comes up, three, 25 times 12 is 300, okay? Let's do a bigger number, three, five, seven times one, three, one. Actually, let's change this to a zero. That way you know how to deal with zeros. One times seven, seven, one times five, five, one times three, three. What you do here is when you're about to multiply this, you gotta compensate for this guy because this is one digit over, you add your zero and then what you're gonna do is multiply these numbers out, zero, zero, zero. Zero times all these becomes zero. So you got zero, zero, zero, okay? Straight forward. Then you go back to the one. Now one is two digits away from here. So you gotta add two zeros down here and then you multiply out. One times seven, one times five, one times three, it's all the same thing. So it becomes three, five, seven.  This becomes seven, five, seven plus three is 10. You carry the one up, one, zero, five is six and then you have a three down here. So your answer, 357 times 101 is 36057. Now if they add decimals to these numbers, this is much simpler than adding or subtracting because you don't have to line up your decimals. All you do, for example, let's say this was 3.57 and this was 10.1. So all you do at the end, you count up the number of decimals you have. You got one, two here and one here. So that's three decimal places. You start from here and you go one. So 3.51 times 10.1 is 36.057, okay? Simple as that. We've done adding, we've done subtracting, we've done multiplication. Now we're gonna do division. Okay, so we've done adding, subtracting, we've done multiplication. What we're gonna do, I'm gonna show you is how to do long division, okay? By hand, the odds are you're probably not gonna use it that much but it's good to know how to do it. So come on. Let's say you want to divide 257 by 12, okay? What I'm gonna show you how to do is break these down to prime numbers and cancel things out to reduce it that way. But right now we're gonna do it through long division, okay? That's the long division symbol with the 12 up here and 257 inside. So this basically means 257 divided by 12. Now, how many times does 12 go into two? Well, it doesn't. So what you do, you move on to the next number. How many times does 12 go into 25? Well, it goes into it twice. So what you do, you put the two up here. Now line up your numbers so you know where you are. It's all about order, okay? Two times two is four. Two times one is? Two. Four minus five is four. Minus two is zero. 12 doesn't go into one. So what you gotta do is break down to seven. Close it to 17 once. So you put a one up here. Line it up with the seven. So this becomes a 12. And you're subtracting these. So two minus seven is five. One minus one is zero, okay? Now 12 doesn't go into five. So there's two ways you can express this. Right now you can say 257 divided by 12 is equal to 21. Use this fraction into this number. But what you can do is continue on and get a decimal number out of this. So the way you do this is, as soon as you get to the last number and you can't continue on anymore, you put a decimal point here. As soon as you put a decimal point here, you can borrow as many zeros as you want. So what you can do is add a zero down here. Now you ask yourself, how many times does 12 go into 50? Well, 12 goes into 25 twice. So if you multiply 24 by two, you're gonna get 48. So 12 goes into 50 four times. Four times 12 is gonna be 48, okay? Then you gotta subtract these. Eight doesn't go into zero, so you borrow one from here. This becomes a four. That's a 10, so that's two. Now 12 doesn't go into two. So what you can do is borrow another zero because you put your decimal point here. You borrow another zero. How many times does 12 go into 20? Once. So this becomes 12 minus 20 is eight. Now 12 doesn't go into it anymore and you can continue this. You can continue to take that to decimal place further. Now the odds are you don't have to do it, okay? So just remember how to do this because it uses additional subtraction and multiplication. Okay? We'll talk later.


Now some people are gonna say and I'm sure some people say well wait a minute Denmark, it's also really I mean, that's funny This is safe. There's very little central planning in Denmark There's no more central planning in Denmark than there is in the United States of America The Danish government does not own the means of production the Danish government Does not central plan? It regulates its banks less than America regulates its banks It regulates industry less than so-called capitalist America because what it does is a redistribute wealth It takes it allows you the freedom to produce and then it steals your money and gives it to other people That it does and it does it pretty well The United States we regulate a lot and we redistribute a little in Denmark They regulate a little and they redistribute a lot on top of that of course Denmark is a lot poorer than America You can make comments while I speak all evening I mean of course they are on a per capita basis and in terms of the size of houses in terms of any economic measure Danes are a lot not a little bit poor So Denmark was a state in the United States a state right like Massachusetts in California How would you think it would rank? Denmark was a state in California. What do you think it would rank? Rates like like New York in California or poor like Mississippi It would rank number 49 It would be the 49 poorest state in the United States. Look it up. These are numbers. These are facts You can pretend people are good at pretending and if you're a socialist you have to be good at pretending Because all of history all of the facts of history suggest that you're advocating for a system that is an utter and complete failure and Is responsible as I said earlier For the worst of horrific murders in human history, you know, I still don't quite understand how we tolerate socialists When we don't tolerate non-truth


Good morning. My name is Dave Medbury and if you're not here to build a community you're in the wrong place And if you are here to build a community you probably want to get close and be like a community Although it is Atlanta. You might be hot and sticky just from walking here. So wherever you sit is fine I'm not expecting very many people though. So if we fill this room. I'm in the wrong place So How do you build a community? Well, I want to welcome you to The Colorado open stack meetup on the road and that's why the name badges were out front. That's what we do at our meetups so that you Get to see somebody you don't know and learn their name very quickly Of course, we have the same thing with our badges here, but I've got my little sticker on I'll take that off now since I've said my name and you can find me in the agenda They say it makes the filming better if I don't have it on Let's see So again, welcome to the Colorado open stack meetup on the road and I'll get my clicker and I'll be better prepared now What is an open stack community and opens that community a lot of things its developers its enterprises that floor out There's dedicated to those enterprises its users its seekers It's really people It's about people Individuals with a somewhat common interest that interest might be a development interest It may be a problem you're trying to solve, but we we've come to open stack As a people because we have an interest in open stack Folks with a wide range of experience interests and needs Your needs today Maybe somebody else's needs tomorrow and you might have experience to offer them. So that that's that's that's why we come together But how does an open stack community address those needs? Well, this this is how I do it by listening prompting proposing teaching iterating back through those items again crafting activities and being open to new ideas new needs and different perspectives So what do you need? What do you need? Raise your hand. What do you need out of an open stack community? You get started by asking questions What somebody else need I'll get to how we get started in a couple slides though And and Any questions no question. Okay, I'll call on you that's part of what the name badges about right? I can't see your show badges from here, but that's all right. We'll do we'll do we'll do pointing, okay? Presto you write in this room. You write in this room became a community your community right now It's it's an ad hoc temporary community, but you're here And this session will be run just as if we were having an open stack meet-up in Colorado or your neighborhood Which is why I asked you to put on a name tag. I said I said I would explain that to somebody asked earlier I said that that's an explanation right there. All right. I Do you guys know it's being streamed live on YouTube from the open stack summit? I'm also streaming it live right from my computer as well So that my Colorado people that are remote are right here with me Form a meet-up or similar group. That is the way you get started Okay, if you want to start a community you start it if you want to start a community you start it I Say meet-up. I know that's a trademark proprietary thing, but it is also pervasive dominant It is it is the de facto way to do this It gives you discoverability. That's probably the biggest thing it gives you People come to my meet-up. They don't know me at all. All they said was I wonder if there's anything in Colorado and bingo I come to the top of the list It allows people to register and personalize so they've done all the social networking back in for you Provides querying and other tools. I can pull I can pull the meet-up people I can ask for leaders or speakers, etc Easy group contacts. I can I can contact the whole list. There's a man. I've been looking for this week Stefano, this one's yours And so that's how you that's that's the best way to start I think there's a lot of ways you could start it as a Google group or Google hangout as well But a meet-up pretty much does all the all the leg work for you They're not sponsoring me So how else do you get started? propose an initial topic Send out a bank send out a meeting date and bang that it's just that easy You might not have anybody sign up, but you don't know you will actually have people sign up I guarantee that you do need to find a facility or set up a conferencing system, but that's just a detail We were technologists we can solve that problem Matt did you have something to say? This is Matt Fisher from the Colorado OpenStack meet-up Okay, well I'll talk a little bit about facilities. So in Colorado we have a range of facilities we can use one of the favorites is to go to your local Brewer and they might have a community room. So you could meet at Odell's in Fort Collins You could meet at New Belgium. You could meet at the Fort Collins. What's it called the Fort Collins Brewer? They've got one of the nicest meeting rooms. We actually have a lot of them at libraries You can have them at universities. You can have them at businesses We'll talk more about that later the predominant choice these days is to have them at businesses. They have nice mics They have nice big screens They have nice chairs and they bring something else to the table. They bring food You mentioned to send out a meeting request. Who do you send it to right? You don't have a distribution list. What's Okay, so so there's I'll talk a little bit about how you do some Promotion of your meet-up, but they're really the best ways to go go to the meet-up page I'll go to the link in a little bit and you'll see how easy it is Literally once you create a meet-up if you know one or two people just send it to them Ask them to ask them to join your meet-up But it will it will actually people go looking for these things. That's the crazy part You don't understand you might want a meet-up in your neighborhood and there isn't one all you have to do Is create it let's let's go to the next slide. I'll talk a little bit about that Okay, here's an example San Antonio is a natural maybe the most natural hub for open stack outside of the Bay Area It's probably the number two spot. That's where rack spaces guys, but there was no active open stack meet-up It lagged people stopped attending and it just died dried up someone in San Antonio asked me how to get it started and So what did I tell them I said propose an initial topic sent out a meeting and it's just that easy And what did they actually do though? Bang done. It's just that easy. That's exactly what he did. They announced and held their meet-up He asked me two months ago. They already held their first meet-up. It was good interest good attendance It was a good community. There were other people that said why did the meet-up drive it? Nobody took action. It takes one person to start a meet-up and the meet-up happens I guarantee it. I I guess if you're in I grew up in rural Kansas I would have a hard time getting a meet-up going there. It would have to be it would have to be a virtual meet-up Okay, and that's kind of the extended geography part Kevin. What's up? That's a really good question. All right, so I'm gonna I'm gonna go back to it back to a slide. All right Propose an initial topic so you've got to come up if you want to form a community. Oh Yes, sorry, Stefano The question was how do you come up with a topic? All right, so as a person We've got a lot of persons in here You either want to know something want to talk about something or want to find somebody that Has a broader range of experience It's you're probably in one of those three camps if you want to learn about something say I want to have a Investigative meet-up about Cinder. All right So then you could have a Cinder meeting right you might not know anything about it But somebody that comes will know something about it and so you could just have a discussion You don't have to have a speaker you have to have a topic pretty much, but you don't have to have a speaker you guys can just sit Around a table real close and say okay. I know there's this Cinder thing that I'm supposed to be doing I really don't see what the point is or let's go to a different topic. I've got glance What is glance it just seems like it's just another Distribution thing I can get right ahead glance I can get so so you could you can have a little informal discussion at your first meet-up Okay, but at the end of your first meet-up You want to ask for topics? What do you want to hear about next month? Do you know somebody that wants to talk so so you you were the leader? But you're really the facilitator. All right Is that so that's one way the other way? I guess the other thing at the first meet-up you could just introduce open stack and some of the key the key pieces Okay, here's open stack, but in general you want to look at compute You want to look at object store and maybe some networking, you know and then kind of talk about it a little bit Oh anybody can do that. There's tons of tons of tools on open stack word to help you out Okay Bang done. It's just that easy. They had a meet-up in April 4th. I think The guy talked to me in March. He actually came out To Colorado on business talked to me just on the side between meetings said, you know, I know you do meet-ups What is that and that's how it did it. He got it going again the next month Colorado is not the Bay Area. It's not New York. It's not Atlanta Denver's pretty big But a lot of the tech community sits outside of Denver HP's had a long presence in Fort Collins, Colorado and Colorado Springs, which are neither one in Denver. You'll notice So we're extended kind of vertically or north to south Along the front range mountains, right and so we've got to do things a little bit different We work a little bit harder so Several years ago. I started a meet-up and it was called the open stack Colorado meet-up But there was a discovery discovery issue So another guy started the Denver meet-up not knowing that there was a Colorado meet-up because he assumed if there was a meet-up It would be in Denver, but it wasn't so We got together though eventually But you might be an even a more remote area like if you were in Laramie, Wyoming That's where I went to college. It's too far to go to Denver for an evening event And so you might be the only open-stack guy there, but you'll find somebody in the university somewhere doing big data doing Python Doing other cloud, maybe they're doing EC2. Maybe they're doing VMware You'll find a natural connection and you can pull people in from those groups and with meet-up you can actually Advertise I don't know promote your group With from within their meet-ups. It's it's very easy to do so pretty much no matter where you are and what your size is You can get a community going And you just have to do a little bit more work if you're not a natural hub Let's say there's two meet-ups that were formed independently each met a need for education information promotion Experience and now we're stronger by working together The the other meet-up host is actually in a different session right now, or he'd probably be in the room I don't know Scott. Are you in the room? No, I don't see him. Okay. He's doing sessions. He works I think he works for VMware right now So he's probably he might be at the VMware booth And he runs the Denver one. I run the one that's north of Denver basically We've not had any requests from Colorado Springs, but we have had Colorado Springs people drive up So it's it's not too bad And and there's ways to make it better You might want to go online and that's another solution. This is actually a bigger group right now Okay, this is as big as the largest group I've ever physical meet-up. I've hosted all right Not counting the people that are online right now So Anybody old-school military might have heard of the VTCN that's old days video teleconferencing We don't do that anymore We do things like WebEx virtual rooms connect or my personal favorite hangouts And I don't know if you remember the old pulp palm on love commercial, but you're soaking in it right now This is streaming live on YouTube via hangout It's also being streamed. I think live or tape delayed on the OpenStack Summit page as well Each has the ability to not only reach an extended audience to provide feedback playback later I Can't make it to everything that goes on in Denver, but I can watch their WebEx the next day and be right up to date I can attend the WebEx remotely if I'm out of town and even give feedback live in the meeting and that happens every single time And and if you're an open-source purist and some of us are You can also use big blue button big blue button is an open-source video streaming teleconference teleeducation tool that works Not quite as slick as some of these others, but it works very well, and we actually used it when I worked at canonical All work and no play makes open-sack a dull boy You need to have a party atmosphere Occasionally a beer bash occasionally if you can get a brew pub to sponsor your meetup.  All right. Who's got a question for me? Nobody's got a question nobody else wants to frisbee I guess in the back somewhere take that so Building a community you want to be social right that's that's part of what it good Um as a community as a meetup leader, you actually do have to call in people in the back row Kenneth Get any questions about open-sack? You're good right now. Okay. What's good to see it's good to see you at my Colorado meetup That's a darn good question. How do you connect to an existing community my number one? There's two two good answers number one go to open stack.org and look for a community because they're they're posted there And I'll get to that in a page if I have it already. I'll go back to it if I if I have it Number two just go to meetup comm and search. There's a very good search tool right on the meetup comm You'll probably find a meetup. You might also just go on IRC. Hey IRC. You know what that is I know you do just go to a hash open stack and say is there anybody in Charlotte that is doing open stack right now. I'd like to come and talk to you Is there a meetup going on should we form one you can be you can be the man You know more about it than 99.99% of people in Charlotte. I Could probably add two more nines to that You got to build your community, but you also got to make it stronger you get forming It's actually the easy part. You got to keep it going So you need to ask someone else to lead the meeting give a talk. Okay, and you got to build a leadership I've got you've seen me talk to a few people in here. I've got some people I can go to if I'm out of town That will be happy to sit in for me even or if I get sick, you know, whatever So so you need to build the leadership You need to re-ask once again for needs who's got a question. What are the what do you need out of an open Stack community raise your hand if you have a question I can't throw frisbees today. Okay So ask again for needs and input ask at the end of every session. Okay Do an install fest. All right, I don't know. I'm an old Linux guy. So we did install fest We did them on Saturdays. We did them at universities. We did them at civic centers Everybody would bring in their computer. We would slam dunk that computer get rid of windows and load open stack Linux now we'll do it with Dev stack You could do it with a number of things And if you want to do an all-day thing do a dev stack a simple dev stack in the morning And for those people that are interested do a bug squash in the afternoon You've already got Dev stack loaded. You're ready to go. You can become a developer in one day Have your first commit get an invitation to Paris all right Look for low-hanging fruit when you do that. You don't want to you don't want to try and solve the cross-tenancy problems in your new in everybody's neutron as they go to VX lands in that afternoon session Because you'll lose people But look for a documentation bug one or two people can work on that documentation bug and then since there's 10,000 documentation bugs You can all have one Make it stronger. Okay. You need to schedule the next meet-up right away Ideally you actually schedule it before the current one happens. That's a little hard to do for your first one So at your first one get topics find somebody that will speak Find somebody that has a question and you can go do the legwork and get her either a speaker or just do the research Yourself, that's what I did for the second one. Somebody asked me a question. They didn't know the answer to I was ready to go for the second Meeting we talked all about it Follow-up email Meetup again. They do provide tools to do that automatically But you can create your own a mailing list if you want you can do this any way you want to meet up Just does a lot of legwork for you Thank the folks that portissi. Yeah. Whoa. Whoa. It's a second. It's a second question guy. He gets something different What about frequency what have you found that works sure? So I think I think frequency is really a tough thing to handle We're all busy professionals and it is hard to do it often enough And keep it going. I actually that may be what happened in San Antonio at one point They may have just burned themselves out. So no more than once a month No more than once a month Certainly you guys can chat anytime you want you can email each other you can do all that But a physical meetup probably once a month is the max. I'd say as a minimum though Every two months except maybe in the summer you can go you can skip all summer long if you want a lot of people are traveling It's hard to it's hard to get speakers And you know, there's fun things to go do in the summer Especially especially if you're trapped in a place that you don't want to be in the winter That's a good time to be having a meetup So I'd say minimum minimum every two months most of the year But you really don't need any more than one the month I think you can sustain yourself forever every other month that that is just fine. Okay We skip a month every Periodically I was traveling a lot for personal reasons in March. We didn't have one Or was it April? It was March. It was March. All right Thank the folks leave unstructured time at the beginning or in for more informal discussions All right, so so we're right to that part of my little meetup here check my watch. All right so It's good to see you all again. I know you drove a long way to be here for this meetup. Okay, you walked over from your hotel But it's kind of like that Is anybody got any horror stories from doing their first second third open stack setup any horror stories? Raise your hand if you have a horror story. Okay. No horror stories Any wins anybody and really get their first open stat or their first meetup going anybody get their first open stack into production There's no hands. Okay, but that's the kind of yeah, Stefano's got his first meetup. He's he's well into his hundred to meet up Questions Stefano, yeah, funny enough. I only helped bootstrap one all the others got really up by themselves So yeah the what you were saying is all what I've been doing what we've been doing in Italy He's mr. Community if you guys don't know he works for the foundation. He is mr. Open-Stack community Yeah, actually, there's two of us now. There's a Todd Tom Feifield. Yeah. Yeah. Oh Tom Feifield. Yeah He's been there a year now. I think maybe a little more. Yes. Yes, so Yeah, no the big the big win for us was to reach out to two companies who were already touching and Playing with Open-Stack in Milan and they were just you know Playing around participating in the mailing list and I spotted them and as I asked them why don't you Throw an event and they were just waiting for someone to ask them So sometimes that that's it all it takes is Just just do it. All right. I already threw you a frisbee. This is a chapstick. I'll throw another one if it broke Thanks to follow All right make it better connected. Okay, this is the page I want to actually go to Stefano's page You want to register your group with Open-Stack Foundation? That's part of how you'll be discovered people will actually go to the foundation to look for events So I'm gonna actually click on that. I'm gonna drop out of my presentation right quick and Just click the link on the mailing list page. There's a mailing list about community You want to join that mailing list right now? You can go to your little tablet your phones your iPads whatever you've got your iPhones You can join that mailing list right now Add your group to the Open-Stack users group list. All right, so let's go to that link Who's somebody not from Colorado and not from my company? Raise your hand Front row Joe right there Where are you from? What's your name and where are you from from Hungary Budapest?  Okay, Hungary Let's see if I can find Hungary here we go Hungary Meetup details are here Open-Stack Hungary meet-up group. Are you the leader? Are you Martin? Right there. So now we're on the open. We're on the meet-up page. That's what it'll look like You can put you can put the Open-Stack logo in this one's been going about as long as mine's been going. All right Almost the same date even It's just that easy folks you put it on the Open-Stack users group page and you put it in meetup and those two together basically point back at each other and Now you're very discoverable. How is that the hardest thing is finding people? All right. Well, we can talk a little bit about that. I think Stefano covered it a little bit Let's see. Let's hit present All right Okay, so you want people but you've also got to participate so how do you participate? You speak at someone else's group. Okay, so you've got this you've got this Cloud or big data team some of them don't know anything about Open-Stack You can go be an an emissary into their meet-up into their group and talk about Open-Stack All of a sudden you'll find that there's other people They're doing Open-Stack that you didn't know about and drag them back to your meeting as speakers. All right If you volunteer they kind of owe you. All right You need to know some people in the Open-Stack community too, so I know a few people in the room I know a few people in that room and I knew a few people in that room and I drag them to my meetings Colorado is very fortunate. We have two PTLs. We have one of Fort Collins named David Lyle and we have another one in Boulder Well, he actually lives right beside me in Loveland, Colorado John Griffith. He's the PTL for sender. I've dragged them both to meeting We've got a director from the Open Daylight Foundation in Fort Collins. I drag him to a meet-up So these are all very public figureheads. You can drag in that's that's easy So so even though we're kind of an extended community none of those people live in Denver by the way But even though we got an extended community We do have some resources, but you probably don't have any of those guys in your city. So what do you do? Oh? Wait, I have another opportunity to ask questions the guy that just walked in the room say your name and tell us Where you where you're from? San Diego Cool. Are you here for this meeting or the next one? It doesn't matter. You get a frisbee Because you talked at my summit All right, any other any questions really? All right, so people have asked a question over and over how do I get speakers? How do I get sponsors? And it's really the same thing. Oh, sorry. I messed up. All right. I'll get to that in a second Who wants to come up and start their very first meet-up right now? You want a meet-up in your city? It's gonna be on you who wants to come up and do it right now. It's easy I've made it very easy for you Somebody needs to come up on stage Come on up. The stairs are over here to this side. All right You'll probably have to talk at my mic because we did I didn't I didn't have a hand to hand mic up I forgot about that part. I forgot about this slide entirely All right It's easy to start a community. All right I'm I'm Nick Campbell He's Nick Campbell and I'd like to talk about or Ask about open stack. He'd like to ask about open stack. Okay, and I'd like to hear if you have any lessons learned experiences Questions about open stack. All right He's a natural leader Okay This is the first meet-up right all right, but you also have to plan the next one The next meet-up Thank you I'll be hosting the next meet-up hold it up close.  Yeah, you don't actually have to hold I'll be hosting the next meet-up in Lansing, Michigan Next month. Okay. Wait look for the announcement. Okay. All right You just held your first meet-up And wait, he's on stage The Bluetooth speaker from HP Probably switch it off and lay it down Tell me your name again Nick Campbell. All right. Thanks Nick Thank God, it's just that easy. Thanks Nick a big. Thank you All right, and one more thing you guys have been all asking about this find sponsors. All right I call it find sponsors. You might call it find speakers. You might call it find a meeting room You might call it find an interest group They'll help you sponsors will help you they will help you find or fund speakers meeting rooms swag I've been throwing things around in the room. You might have noticed that I have more things to throw to They'll help you with topics They'll help you with membership They'll help you with pizza. They'll help you with beer. They'll help you with an open-stack foundation birthday cake next month Oh in July They become a part of your community. How do you find? Speakers and sponsors You walk through those doors you walk to the first booth you see if they say no you Pasha them you walk to the next booth and you say I'm in Lansing, Michigan And I need a speaker next month. I'm gonna be out of town. Somebody's got a cover for me Don't you guys have a sales rep in the area? Don't you have somebody who really wants to win the entire University community here That's how easy it is. That is how easy it is and and they might be sitting right next to you right now All right, who here came on their own dime their own dollar? And is not sponsored by a company raise your hand. I'll give you six Frisbees. Oh, hey Everybody else in this room is a potential speaker for you Right because they all work for a company that's interested in open-stack every other person in this room I will come and speak at your group in Budapest any day of the week What's that? That's I mean everybody at this event is a potential speaker for you This is this is the weird part, right? The second bullet says they may seek you out. I don't have to schedule speakers anymore at all Speakers come find me It's like a marketing mind for them. I know there's things I don't want them to talk about and I say no, that's not really appropriate for our group And I'll go find a speaker or somebody else will come and speak Sometimes we just have discussions because a lot of us are in the trenches doing operations And we just want to learn from the other people that are in the trenches doing operations Yesterday, I think it was HP gave us talk about high availability neutron Which was exactly like a meet-up group It was exactly like a meet-up group and it was perfect and it was it was a packed house people sitting on the floor You said that some you turn down some presenters or some people that want to come and talk What are some of the topics that aren't appropriate for your? For our meet-up if you're really just trying to sell a product or service. I don't think that's appropriate However, your same company that does sell that product or service Probably has a more technical talk that they can give they can get a speaker that can give a more technical talk And I always turn that back or I don't just send them away I said, that's not really the right thing.  Right? Every single company out here has a sales force every single company out here has a technical team and a lot of times There's an overlap. I worked for canonical for three years. We have what we call sales engineers. They know the product They're not really trying to sell you the product. They're trying to inform you about the product But they also know OpenStack. They know OpenStack. They can give a completely unbiased pure Presentation on OpenStack. They will probably put up a slide that says juju though. I'm okay if they put up a slide That says juju. I'm okay if they put up a slide that says DevOps distilled as long as the talk was about high availability Neutron, I'm gonna be excited. Okay, so and I think I think that's what my community wants They want they want content not to be a captive audience, okay? And and but but that's pretty successful I'll tell you that my next three meet-ups are already booked and it's all by distributions. I've got consecutive distributions lined up Red Hat, Canonical, Suse are all coming and it's partly because they've got new things that have come out And none of them have ever talked to our meet-up before. That's another thing They've never come and talked before so they're all game. They're not if they say the bad thing They will come back, but they're all game at this point, right? I've never had a hardware vendor Real hardware vendor come and talk. I will I will probably be a little bit concerned with the first time Well actually solid fire. No solid fire is a hardware software vendor. They have talked But all he did was the PTL of sender all I did was talk about sender He didn't say solid fire hardly at all. I think he handed out solid fire stickers That John's a great guy. I highly recommend him if you can get him to come talk at your community. Let him come talk Recognize and thank your sponsors. All right, you asked a second question. I'm gonna roll this one So the things I've been thrown around The the Bluetooth thing was from HP Percona provided I think the the orange frisbees who wants an orange frisbee It's an asterisk kind of They don't throw as well, but you have to claim it later boomerang Swift stack. All right Who's got a question for me? This is a good one. No question. No question. Okay, come on up And then walk back to that mic. So this is a signed copy by the author Joe Arnold right there From Swift stack and there's a mic go ask your question You always have your meet-ups like most user groups have been the nights the weekends From Calgary, Alberta. We're looking at kind of doing ours during the day, you know Maybe over lunch that way, you know, it's it's kind of like on your works company time you're going you're not going on your time We figured might get more buy-in. I think that's great I think it works well if you're like in a metro area where people can collect catch a sub over there or something Or if you're like in a really big downtown and just downtown people can go. I think that would be perfect I think a lot of people would welcome that if you bring beer though, just kind of limit the beer okay That's I've been to one like that. I think it wasn't an open-stack one I think it was a puppet one once it was like awesome I mean, yeah, it was it was you know kind of the buffet food and then come in and it was just puppet users So it was great Any more questions? Yep American press You'd be amazed that almost every single meet-up I go to Whoever is sponsoring that meet-up says something like on the very last side. We're hiring It's not it's not you shouldn't be overt about it I will tell you there is so much interpersonal networking going at every meet-up I've ever been to like which company you had now which company you had now you guys hiring who you know What's going on?  Did you already get a frisbee? Did you get a frisbee? Huh? Did you? Let's see go back. Okay, so thank your sponsors. That's that's that's important They're gonna they're gonna help you build your meet-up. Oh, let's see puppet labs I threw a shirt to somebody earlier. That was from puppet labs The open stack foundation bought all these frisbees. Thanks, Stefano I think it was it was Tim Feifeld last year. So if you'll see they have a little three on it It was the open stack third birthday party a year ago We we could have bought we could have bought beer beer was donated. We didn't need to buy beer We could have bought a birthday cake. I bought the birthday cake Open stack foundation said here's some money go spend it celebrate open stacks third birthday the fourth birthday is coming up in July You're welcome at my meet-up, but I'll bet there's one in your neighborhood. That's also having a birthday party So thank your sponsors puppet labs a bunch to okay, so You guys have been out on the show floor. You know, there's all sorts of things I've got I've got del chap stick who wants a del chap stick. All right. There's some up on stage. Just come up afterwards I've got an open stat a limited edition open stack foundation pen. This one's broken when I started my first meet-up I didn't have a sponsor. I didn't have anything to do to give out I didn't have anybody anything to draw people in I Contacted the open stack foundation said well we can send you some stickers and some pens and Then they also sent me seven shirts of various sizes from different media from different found Different summits in the past no two were alike and I gave them out of my first meet-up and it was a big success So here's some foundation pins What else do I have in here? Oh? so another another Another place all right.  I'm still giving them out That that's how you do it. That's that's really how it is And now I'm gonna I'm gonna ask you know I'm gonna ask him to turn off the mic Can you turn off my mic?