Ah, hey look who it is everybody. My dear familiar group of people. Yeah, I haven't seen together in a while. Hello all the rest of you. Hello, I am also here, ha ha. I'm attracting cats. Wait, what? We know if you're no longer in your chair and you're lying on the floor, it's because the cats overcame you because of the dangling bells. I can't wait to watch them. There's a video switches as these cats are just batting at his head. No, no, the video won't switch. You just have to have an eagle eye and look down in that little preview down at the bottom and see the whole thing happen. What's the cat massacre? The cat massacre, if you will. Glen, please shift that hat to Sarah to wear. Let's see what happens. Wouldn't that be something of all the cats from Sarah's place came and attacked my head here? Two cats, guys. All of them. That's not. What if all of Sarah's cats just, you know? She knows she's got hundreds.  I'm okay with that. That's what it's gotta be.  What about the garbage? Yeah, it happens. Well, it's coming right now. There are three cans, right? There's yard waste, recycling, and regular waste. One of them came at like five in the morning and now one of them's coming right. Well, at least it's not coming during the show. You guys probably can't hear it anymore. No, can't hear it. I had a similar issue. I was originally gonna do this from my house, but our backyard's getting redone right now, which is long overdue. And there hasn't been a single tractor back there for a few weeks. And then of course, like an hour ago, here comes the tractor. All right, well. This is just how it goes. You know those tractors. And Manhattan constantly. Wait. Yeah, you, in New York, you definitely know those tractors. I know exactly what you're talking about. Usually they're being flung off by the people at the department. Central Park is now an open farm, as I understand it. Cows everywhere. Very strange. That's not a nice thing to say. Actually, people in Manhattan are very trim and fit, to be honest.  Yeah, that's how you dodge the cars. Any questions before we get going here? I believe so. All right. I'm ready. And Sarah, you're kicking us. Well, you don't, I'll play a prerecord for the, for the Patreon plug, but then you're kicking us off. Okay. Got it? Yep. Here we go. Daily Tech News show is powered by its audience, not outside organizations. To find out more, head to DailyTechNewsShow.com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for Friday, December 1st. From Studio Fila and I'm Sarah Lane. From DTNS Headquarters in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. From DTNS Toe Quarters on Maya's actor. And from Mildly Oderific Petaluma. I'm Jason Howell. Wow! It's like we're all back together again. It's amazing. Not only do we have four of the, well, almost said four, three of the former hosts of Tech News today, one current host of Tech News today with us. But it's Friday, so we've got Len Peralta here as well. Welcome back. Got my little hat on here, guys. Oh, he can hear it. I know. That is one festive hat, Len. It is hat Friday after all. So the majority of us are participants. Well, I had to scramble. I didn't realize that hat Friday was the thing. We failed you on uninforming. That's not your fault. Or you could conscientiously object to hat Friday like Roger Chang does, our producer. I don't object to it. I just can't participate due to the lack of available hats. You should find your local hat madashri. They will help you out at any time. If only there was some sort of a holiday where you could give a gift to somebody. Yeah, that's true. Are there hats that fit around a headset though? I guess you'd have to have that special hat. This one. Oh, that's true. Yeah, stock stock stocking caps would. I can always draw one. I'm just saying. Well, I think, oh, nice. You're giving Len a run for his buddy there. Now all I need to do is tape it to my forehead. Well, you don't have to wear the hat. You have the hat. Nothing says hat Friday, he says, wear the hat. Here, we'll just put that hat here. All right, folks, let's start with a few tech things you should know. Twitter Lite, which saves data, has launched in the Google Play Store in 24 more countries, including now Brazil, Colombia, Egypt, Israel, Malaysia, Nigeria, and South Africa. Twitter launched the app as a test in the Philippines back in September, and the company says it saw a 50% increase in posts since it's launched there. WinFuture spotted a Microsoft job posting for a hardware test engineer based in Building 85, which is where many of the employees who work on the surface are located. Among the requirements for the job are LTE experience with a Snapdragon 845 processor. That's an ARM processor. Also requires Intel experience. And the ability to travel to China. Pegatron manufactures the surface and Xbox models for Microsoft in China. So, hmm. Ride, Hailing app Ola announced a new device called Pedal Friday, which it says will be introduced in several cities across India. It's a big market. Pedal will let users take bicycles to things like college campuses, residential townships, and tech parks. A video showed users unlocking bikes with a fingerprint. And now, here's some more top stories. Google's partnering with Home Advisor. Believe those are the folks that own Angie's list now. And Porch, to let users talk to Google Assistant, so Google Home or on an Android device, to hire local contractors. So the idea is you would say, okay, name, find me a plumber, and then they would ask you a series of structured questions to kind of narrow down what your need is. And in some cases, even offer to say, great, would you like us to call this particular plumber that we've narrowed down for you? I mean, that's great if you like the results from things like Home Advisor and Porch. But, you know, usually when I do something like this, I'm just entering a search term into a browser and looking on Yelp. Or you're talking. It can't possibly be worse than that. Or you have, you know, references coming from people. We're working with a contractor for a backyard right now. And that was the hardest part, was picking the right person. Depends on the scope of the work that you're doing. Can we trust Assistant to pick the best contractor? And if you do trust Assistant, you'll get mad at Assistant if they screw up. So I've been yelling at Assistant for all kinds of screw ups. I can't wait, yell at it for this. I mean, that is the thing, right? Is whenever I'm hiring something like a plumber or someone to do remodeling or home repair or anything, I do a lot of comparison. It's not an item I've ever thought of as convenience. But I guess if you really like, say Angie's list and you rely on them and the questions are good enough where you feel like it's doing the comparison for you, that could work out. All right, moving on. Google has changed its policy to explicitly ban ads from showing up on the lock screen of Android unless the exclusive purpose of the app is to be a lock screen.  Yeah, so if you installed a lock screen app, they get to monetize that. And they figure if you're replacing the lock screen, all bets are off. But you shouldn't have to think like, wait a minute, that was just supposed to edit photos. Why is it putting ads on my lock screen now? Yeah, it's a challenge with Android too, because sometimes it's not always easy for the majority of people to be able to zero in and figure out exactly why that thing is changing. Why are there suddenly ads on my screen that might start happening? And when it's associated with an app that has nothing to do with your lock screen, it's a challenge to figure out what's doing it, what you need to remove, or have I been hacked? Which a lot of people instantly jumped to. I mean, as somebody who has very few lock screen notifications, I mean, I'm running iOS, but everyone chime in if you've seen this, is lock screen ads a real issue? I've not really experienced them very much. I haven't had a firsthand experience of installing an app and then suddenly my lock screen is overtaken by ads. I've heard of it a decent amount. And I know that Amazon kind of does this legitimately with some of their models of fire phones. So it's not out of line for this to happen. I have had one app that doesn't, I think it was Clean Sweep. It basically deletes all the file detritus in your system. And for the longest time, I was like, where's this lock screen image coming in? Because it would go to lock screen and then it would just show you like photo slides and then tell you to buy the full app or at the bottom. And the app itself already has a number of adware that rolls through it. Buy this, buy that. It's like that I understand, but it never mentioned anything about a lock screen. Took me about like a day to figure it out. I was like, all right, I'm deleting it. In my early days of Android, I actually ran into this because I had a live wallpaper, which I thought was really cool, except there were these ads showing up on my lock screen and I couldn't figure it out. I thought exactly what Jason thought like, was I hacked? Did something go wrong? What did I install? What happened? So I started deleting apps one by one by one until this thing disappeared. And so if you're looking for a Captain America wallpaper, don't get the live wallpaper from like, I don't know, six years ago. Look at that update. Time period. Bestial Geographic has a post up about a company called Biocarbon Engineering that uses unmanned aerial vehicles, AKA drones, to plant trees to make up for losses from mining, logging, and urbanization. The UAV scans the region first to create a 3D map, then uses an algorithm to create a firing pattern for the germinated seeds to get them underground so they can start growing. Testing in the UK indicated the UAV planted trees may have a better survival rate than regularly planted trees. And in June, Biocarbon planted 5,000 trees in a day to rehabilitate a coal mining area in Dungog, Australia. In other UAV news, Amazon has patented direct fragmentation for unmanned airborne vehicles. The idea being that if a drone is gonna crash, if it can disassemble into smaller pieces, it's likely to do less damage. Wow, this is a cool day for drone news, isn't it? Yeah. Planning trees better than humans, faster with more precision, and a drone that can spontaneously combust as to not burn us. They gotta put this together. So when the thing explodes, it plants seeds. Like, you gotta do that, right? But don't add those seeds in the parts. It depends on whether or not those pieces are sharp when they come back down. Yeah, that's a good point. Not to mention the pieces will be detached using, quote, hooks, springs. Okay, both of those make sense. Or small explosive charges. Oh, well, that's how you get them going fast enough to plant the seed then.  Well, the idea is that it can look for a place where it's less likely to hit anything and then disassemble into parts that will land softer. Right. Also with the... Instead of like taking off someone's roof. Yeah, yeah. Also, or head, or the roof of my head. Both, yeah. Also with the planting things, a lot of people are criticizing this saying, this isn't gonna solve things. We need to do other things to actually solve deforestation. So it's not a panacea. This doesn't like make urbanization and logging and mining, you know, fine to do now, right? It's still, it still has more of an effect than this can catch up with plant planting. And there's certain benefits to having people do it in some cases, but it's nice to have the option, I think. Absolutely. I'm also kind of intrigued just by, I understand that it can happen faster, but that the plants might have more of a survival rate. I mean, if people are skilled at planting trees, it's like, isn't that good enough? So that's interesting to me, I wonder why. Yeah, yeah. Agreed. Tesla has made good on his promise to build the world's largest lithium-ion battery installation in South Africa in 100 days. The 129 megawatt battery will help stabilize the power grid there, which has suffered blackouts as a result of a shift to wind power. Tesla CEO Elon Musk has offered to build, had offered to build the battery in time or not charge for it at all. So he did it. I'm going to add, it's South Australia, which is a state in Australia, not South Africa. Did I say South Africa? Oh, I didn't even notice that either. Yeah, that's a thing. Just for anyone who's listening on the audio. South Australia. Yeah, South Australia. Unmanned drone. Yeah, this is cool. Elon's my hero. I'll just go ahead and throw that out there. He also, by the way, supplied battery power to Puerto Rico when they had their hurricane. So this is kind of like, not on this scale. Not at this scale though. No. There were other companies who also provided batteries to Puerto Rico. I both love and am skeptical of Elon because he's very good at getting attention. Sometimes I think less deservedly so than others. This is one of those times when he definitely deserved it because I'll be honest, I didn't think he was going to do it. I thought it was going to, either they were going to say no to him or he was going to weasel out of it some way on a technicality. But not only did he do it, he did it in time and it's working. Even though it officially launched on Friday in Australia, it was already starting to be used on Thursday because they were having these power outages starting to happen and it helped prevent the power outage. So well done. Good job, Elon. Imagine the pressure behind the scenes when Elon Musk goes to Twitter and says, we're going to do this in 100 days or it's free. All right, we better get it done in 100 days. Like, oh man, we're working in those conditions that had to be really tense. They asked him, who would foot the bill for this if you don't make the 100 days? And he goes, I guess it would cost me somewhere in the billions range. And he wasn't joking. He was just like, yeah, I'll pay for it. It doesn't go right. And so either he's insane or he's a genius or both or maybe an alien, I'm thinking. It sounds like he was just really confident that they knew they could pull it off, which is great.  Well, and that's the other thing is, it's very quick to give Elon Musk credit for this. It's not just him. It's a huge team there at Tesla that pulled this off. So congratulations to all of those people. Wall Street Journal has sources who say Spotify and Tencent's music group are in talks to swap stakes in each other's businesses worth up to 10% of each company. So Tencent music group buys a stake of Spotify, Spotify buys a stake of Tencent music group. Deal would help the two companies align on future negotiations with music labels. Sources previously told Reuters that Spotify is considering a US IPO in 2018. So that would be a benefit for Tencent as well, assuming that the stock does well if it's ever issued. Seems like such an obvious benefit to Spotify. But when you think of Spotify, it's huge company, but certainly in the US where we all are, it has plenty of competition. Tencent, on the other hand, is like the biggest company in China. So in Asia, I believe. And so it's like, I wonder what does Tencent see in Spotify in order to give Spotify 10% of its value? I guess there's more to the story. I think, yeah, there obviously is more and I'm speculating now, but I think Tencent probably has a more difficult time negotiating with music labels because as big as it is, it's fairly locked into China. Right. And so what they see is Spotify has had great success in renegotiating recently with the music labels. We need a little of that magic to help us over here in China. And then maybe we can get Spotify some value and some stability by putting our investment and our muscle behind it. Maybe that helps Spotify. I don't think Spotify is intending to move into China, but maybe that gives them some other benefits on the negotiating side with Chinese labels for some reason. Well, and if they are eventually able to move into China, this helps if they ever decide to go public whenever that's going to happen. Well, my guess is that part of the deal is they won't go into China. Tencent's like, as long as you don't go to China. Right. Well, yeah. You just give us artists that we wouldn't really have access to otherwise. Yeah, yeah. Hey, folks, if you wanna get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, be sure to subscribe to dailytechheadlines.com available on the Amazon Echo, on the Anchor app in the Google Home, through the Anchor app, and as a podcast, as a good old fashioned podcast at dailytechheadlines.com. So we're very happy that Jason could join us today for multiple reasons. One of them is he's got a new album out. And Jason, I know you're super enthusiastic in talking about how you record your music.  How difficult is that? Well, I would say that it's not as difficult as it used to be. And I think I, as you can probably speak to this too, because I know you're a musician, you record stuff from time to time. I mean, the beauty of the landscape of technology right now is that so many things that used to be prohibitive because they were so expensive are now democratized because everybody has high powered, highly capable computers. A lot of those computers come with things. Like sometimes you get GarageBand on a Mac. I don't know, does that come like standard stock with a new Mac? Yeah. So you get that right out of the box and I mean, you compare that to what people had even 20 years ago. I mean, it's a studio in a box. And mind you, it's a stripped down version of some of the other digital audio workstations out there. But it's a really great place to learn and you can do pretty much anything without that. You can do with anything else. It's just maybe a little bit easier. You know what's hilarious? I remember buying a four track tape machine so I could record my own music. But $549. So remember the price, because it was cheap at the time. You could record four tracks. You could bounce down so you're losing all this quality as you're doing it. And like I have like my phone, which can probably do the same thing if I get a proper interface or my actual computers that can actually handle this very well through USB. It's just so much easier now. If with whatever device you have, there's a lot of accessories available now that allow you just to plug in a guitar to a phone or a computer or whatever you want. It's really very impressive. Yeah. And the price has really dropped down too. So I would say, you know, for people who are interested in like learning how to do this stuff, it's not that difficult when you have access to a garage band, which is, you know, pretty much free when you buy a Mac. But there's also, you know, a lot of other options. Reaper is one that came along, I don't know, probably about seven, eight, nine years ago. And it really burst onto the scene as like the anti-pro tools. Pro tools in the world and the world of audio production is in many ways seen as like the professionals, you know, found in professional studios everywhere. That's probably why they call it Pro Tools. But there's also been a lot of pushback on that, that it feels too elitist to use software like that. And Reaper was kind of the pushback on that where you can basically get a fully capable digital audio workstation that can do all the same stuff for like 60 bucks. You can get that on a personal license and it does everything you need. So given that you can get in cheap or even free, depending from a certain point of view, what about gear? What about the stuff I'm gonna record with? Let's assume I've got the computer and the software. I need some other stuff, don't I? Absolutely. And I, you know, I've had this question before where it's like, well, I wanna start up a studio. What do you think I need to get? And I think the overarching question that you had to ask yourself is or tell yourself, remind yourself is that you don't need to necessarily buy this or that because that's what professionals do or whatever. You need to analyze what solves your own personal problem and go from there, right? If you're planning on making electronic music, you probably don't have an immediate need for a microphone. You can do all of that with software and maybe you invest some money into plugins or virtual synthesizers or drum machine modules or whatever that works with your digital audio workstation to do that. If you're doing guitar oriented, you know, a singer songwriter stuff, I mean, obviously you need a guitar of some sort, but you probably do need a microphone and that'll kind of direct and guide you as far as what direction you go. And there's a whole lot of ways to do research on that. There's an online forum that has a horrible name. It's called Gear Sluts. But it's one of the best communities for this stuff. You can go on there. With a Z, mind you. Yes, yes, SLUTZ. And you find just a huge community there. It's been around for years and years and years. A huge community of audio engineers, both professional and people who do it as their passion. All sharing their insights on what gear is best for what specific things. If you go in there and do a search and you say, you know, I'm just beginning. I want to do singer songwriter stuff. I need a great all-purpose microphone. You're gonna find tons of threads with tons of replies and you're probably gonna very quickly narrow down on the things that kind of bubble up to the top. And then it's really just about budget. So, Jason, I know you mentioned in your notes the Shure SM57s or 58s. These are the 57s.  Yes. Not holding them. But I mean, this, I can pack up four of these with additional equipment and a backpack. Like if I'm traveling, like they are very portable and really, really high quality. Yeah, they're workhorses in the industry. You'll find SM57s, SM58s in every studio basically because they are so dynamic and so flexible. And they're not that expensive. Those you can, I mean, I remember if it's the 57 or the 58 is usually less than 100 bucks. Yeah, I think it's often around 50 because I just replaced one not too long ago and I'd forgotten how inexpensive they are.  They're not gonna give you a USB port or USB plug on the other end. There are microphones that do that. So you're gonna need some sort of analog to digital conversion, something like an audio interface. I put in the notes a Focusrite Scarlet line, which is a really good quality line. We use it here at TWIT. It's a great kind of entry level, but high quality for the cost line of hardware for getting the audio from the microphone that you happen to have into whatever software you're using and having that conversion sound really good, not losing anything in the process. Well, if you want something really cheap, you can look for those no name things. Right now I'm using a, what was this, $3.49 adapter from Radio Shack. That's an XLR to USB. I'm like, there's no way this is gonna work very well. There's no way. And there's a little bit of hiss in it. I'm not exactly thrilled with it, but it's $3.50. How are you gonna complain about that? You can also look for like, I guess Monoprice has a bunch of these little interface interfaces. You don't necessarily need to go super high end if you're just trying to get the work done. Like, because I know for me, you gotta practice and practice and practice and the first 100 hours will suck. It will be terrible, terrible audio, but get it done. That's really the big deal. Yeah, and I believe I've kind of put that somewhere in my notes. I can't find it right now, but the idea being that, especially when you're starting out, and I mean, I practice this to this day with a piece of hardware that I'll talk about in a little bit that I'm super excited about, but the idea that you don't just save your recording and your writing for the times where it's all working. You just, you continue to do it. The best way to learn this stuff is not, you know, to read forums for a million hours to learn, oh, that's how you use that reverb. The best way to do it is to use it and suck at it and then eventually have a breakthrough and then be better at it. It's just doing it time and time and time again and not judging it along the way. Just the more hours you put in, the more content you create, the better it gets over time. Yeah. All right, we've got so many good resources from Jason in our show notes at dailytechnewshow.com. I highly recommend anybody who is interested in this to go check that out and take a look at all the gear and the songwriting tools and everything. If you had to leave people with one thing you're most excited about or one piece of advice, what would you say? I mean, the thing I'm most excited about right now actually kind of ties in a little bit with the album promotion, but I'm doing a song a day challenge right now which is basically writing a song and by song it's loosely defined. Sometimes it's 30 seconds, sometimes it's four minutes or whatever. But the idea being that I'm using this piece of hardware that just came out, it's called the Spire Studio and it's a little eight track digital recorder in a little cylindrical body with an onboard microphone and it's a little expensive, it's $350. But the beauty of this thing is not that you're gonna create masterpieces with it. The beauty of it is I have all these ideas floating through my head all the time and usually in order to capture them to produce later I open up Evernote and I sing the parts and be like, okay, then the bass does, the guitar does, blah, blah, blah. And then I have to construct it in my mind before I sit down to record it. With this thing I can literally pull out the instrument and in 15 minutes have the entire idea laid out. Like this morning my wife went to drop off our daughters at school and in the 20 minutes that she was gone I had an idea, I laid out eight tracks and I uploaded it to Spotify. And being able to work at that speed, whether it's good or a bad idea it gives you instant feedback as far as like what you can do next, I could take that idea and turn it into something bigger later and now I know what that would kind of sound like if I did that. That's amazing. Yeah, it's awesome. It's really cool. Folks, if you want to suggest these kinds of topics to us there's lots of ways to do it. You can join in on our subreddit at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com or in our Facebook group, facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show.  You can just go there and check it out there. But it's time to check in with a different perspective on the tech news of the month with the monthly tech views from Mike Range. I'm Mike Range here to present the monthly tech views which critics have heralded as the week old Thanksgiving leftovers of technology news. An Austrian designer has created a series of substitute phones in an attempt to cure smartphone addiction. The devices, which I would bet a million dollars he wanted to spell F-A-U-X-N-S, but nobody in the damn test group would pronounce it right, incorporate a series of stone beads to allow users to perform swiping, scrolling and zooming motions as if using a real phone. The devices are already a huge hit as evidenced by the onslaught of blog posts debating the superiority of B-DOS versus B-Droid. For the full monthly tech views meal, pull up a seat at dailytechnewshow.com. B-DOS. Thank you, Mike Range. You can find that, like you said, dailytechnewshow.com. What's in the mail bag, Sarah? Well, on Wednesday with Scott Johnson, we had this great discussion about the idea that there was a lot of research that indicated if students are taking notes, let's say a college lecture class, rather than typing, they're retaining information better. And we got a lot of responses from people, some of them saying, yes, we agree with, you know, Tom, Sarah and Scott, we all kind of said, yeah, writing makes a lot of sense. But we also got some different opinions and some really good tips. So the Charlie dude pointed out, as a person with a learning disability, being able to type notes is a godsend. Laptops weren't around when I was an undergrad, but they were when I was in grad school and I used one in every class that would not have gotten through grad school without one. Mike Dean had a good tip. LiveScribe been around for quite a while. Mike says, I'll be using it for about five years. It's a system that includes kind of a bulky pen with real ink, micro.paper, notepads, cross-platform app. Basically, I can take notes on their proprietary micro.notepads while running the app on my iPhone. And as I'm taking notes, the app records the event to my phone. So kind of nifty. And Kimberly, who says, she's a teacher in Texas, says, I have two problems with professors or professional development banning laptops or tablets in favor of kind of going old school. She says, number one, if the students are adults, they should be able to take notes however they want. And two, Kimberly says, I'm Dye's graphic, meaning I can't listen and hand write at the same time. My brain just doesn't work it out. So I've got to have a different way to take notes. She's also a teacher. She said, I've had both professors and professional development try to stop me from using technology in their lectures, but I need it. In university, I had to jump through hoops just to get tape lectures. The only way I could take notes was to listen to a section, stop, take notes, rewind, check, repeat, kind of what Roger was talking about the other day. So again, thanks to everybody who kind of kept us in check on the different ways that people learn best. Yeah, and I think the consensus of everybody that wrote in what we were saying on the show and even what was said in the New York Times article we talked about is the laptops may not be good for you if you don't use them properly or you can't stop yourself from using them properly, which some people are arguing you just can't, but you shouldn't ban them because not everybody's the same and some people have a very good justification for needing to use a laptop in the classroom. So this is great. I love getting all these perspectives. That was a really good topic and I'm glad you all got in on it. All right, before we get out of here, let's check in with Len Peralta. What have you been drawing, Len? Well, you know, first I want to say, Jason, congratulations on the album. I think it's great and I love, I am an audiophile myself and I love to find out about DIY audio sound setups. This one is my personal favorite. This was of course voted the best DIY sound setup of 2017 by the HAL initiative, if you remember. We know that we know all about this one. Exactly, it's called the IaaS and you just got to check out the picture. It's a pretty amazing, but what I want to mention is that it turns your DIY audio into DIY ads. That's right, there he said. It's wireless. Man, this is working hard to make a pun and the work paying off. Len, I am honored to be- No, I have to mention the pun came last. I actually started drawing this one because I thought it was sort of funny and I'm like, ooh, IaaS, DIY, there you go. I think this might be the hit costume of Halloween 2018. I hope, let's hope. Let's hope so. Folks, start work now and send us your pictures next October when you're dressed up as DIY ads. Somebody's got to do it. At least one dedicated DTNS fan has to do this. Absolutely. That's adorable. I love it. Go check it out at LenPeraltaStore.com where you can also get the DTNS yearly poster, right? Yes, that's right. It's the last Jedi poster. It is available right now and it's great. Coming up also soon is, I'm going to do another one of the DTNS year roundup sort of things where I have the instant art collection which will be the best of this year's art. So keep an eye out for that because that's coming as well. So if you're looking for some gifts for folks, pick up a little Len art and then go to yellowgold.com slash Kickstarter. Pick yourself up some music, right Jason? Yellow gold music. Yellow gold might take you to a jewelry shop. I'm not. Okay, yellowgoldmusic.com. Next time I'll actually read it instead of pretending like I remembered it right. It's okay, I do that as well. Yeah, if you want to pitch in on the new album, there's a Kickstarter going on right now. I'm going to see how far I can take that and I'm really excited. I spent about three years, far too long on a single album, but hey, life is crazy. So there you go. This is amazing. Right up until I moved this desk over to the other side of the room, I still had your last Kickstarter, Yellow Gold, sitting right there. It's still over there, it's just out of reach. But yeah, so it's good stuff too. Yellow gold music. Don't do what I did, do it right. Yellowgoldmusic.com slash Kickstarter and get in on the action today. Also today's payday for us, Sarah and Roger. It's Patreon's collection day.  You guys are the best. We could not do it without you. Check your emails. If you didn't get an email from Patreon, go to patreon.com slash DTNS. Make sure you've got your rewards. If you think you're supposed to get something and you didn't email us, we had a couple of people leave and say that they didn't get the rewards they were expected, which always hurts me because I work really hard to make sure that everybody gets what I've said they'll get. So patreon.com slash DTNS is the place to go to check that out. Once again, patreon.com slash DTNS. Our email address is feedback at dailytechnewshow.com. If you have Patreon questions or any other feedback that you want to give us, we are here and ready to read. We're live Monday through Friday at 4.30 p.m. Eastern, 2130 UTC at alphageekradio.com and diamondclub.tv. And our website is dailytechnewshow.com. We'll be back on Monday with Veronica Belmont. Talk to you then. This show is part of the Frog Pants Network. Get more at frogpants.com. I hope you have enjoyed this brover. Jason, that was so good. So much good information there, man. Thanks. It was a lot of fun. I really appreciate you getting the chance to talk to us. You guys, yes. Yes, I was also there. That was just like the cream on top of the chocolate cake. I asked, you're like whipped cream, man. Thank you. You really are. I am like whipped cream, especially since I'm lactose intolerant. I will irritate everyone else who is like me. Cool whip? Is that guy dairy? That's a non-dairy topping. As I said, a madman like a thousand times. Throw that in the freezer though. You can eat it with a spoon. Yeah, we're also just throwing. No. Cool. That's actually a good question. Well, that was a lot of fun, you guys. Thank you. Yeah, thanks, man. We will still stream for the next few minutes as we pick a title and publish and stuff. But if you need to leave at any point, no problem. I have the idea. I didn't want to say it during the show. So I put the phrase of 10 cent and 10 percent, like buying, spotting 10 percent of 10 cent. We didn't like that 10 spot. It's a it's a cent. 10 percent of 10 cents is not a penny. That's all they get. Here's my two cents. Oh, oh, wow. That is one heck of a freeze frame for Roger there. I think he was about to start reading titles out of show about that TV. Oh, oh, back. Ish, we heard of a syllable. I like that. I do. Right. I do like this. Oh, it's just when you click on it, it doesn't show you. 10 spotify is kind of clever. Oh, yeah, that's getting that's getting to it. The band is back together. Flashback TNT PTSD. Oh, look at that. It was a DTNS to die as for. You got any others on there, Sarah, you want to throw out for consideration? Well, a lot of TNT Daily Tech News show mashups. We've got Daily Tech News today. That news today is now tech news weekly. Yes, no, it almost doesn't work. Well, I guess it works in a. It works in the sense that it was in the past. Right. Yeah, like that's what he's very recently. We got that. We got Elon, maybe an alien. We have 10 percent. The band is back together. DTNS hits a TNT note that you got TNT and my DTNS. Musk powers ACs with the DC. 10 spotify, a DTNS to die as for. Sarah has hundreds. I don't even know what that means. Hundreds, best Friday ever. OK, name, find me a plumber. Name, I'm just going to start using that as my. Name on top of the chocolate cake. So with cream, that was post show, though. Yeah. So 10 spotify, then, is that. I mean, if we're trying to, you know. I'm open. I just need to pick it. I'm I'm at the point where I'm making the ID three tags. Do 10 spotify. Yeah. All right. Agreed. Yeah. Did did Roger ever come back? He is. He, Roger.  They have figured out where he lived. I grow. He's so smart. My God, he is. He's just very hard to deal with. There's a whole issue. What's that? Oh, yeah, I just doesn't know about the crow. Oh, so there's a. My internet went out during the show the other day, like my modem, just like, you know, everything just went down. So it was the whole thing.  And he's just something wrong with him.   And he's always like chewing telephone wires and just doing really weird stuff. And like none of the other crows want to hang out with him. So yeah, she means an actual crow, not a member of the Night's Watch. Did you guys pick a bird? It's too bad. Out of there are a lot of their seagulls, but there are even more crows. They love it out here. So did you guys get a title by any chance? Oh, Roger's back. Yes, I have no idea what's going on. They might be my router, but I don't know. I think it's that lock screen app that you downloaded. Well, I've never had this issue ever. Me in. Well, now you can say you have. So, right? First time ever happens. Yeah, you always remember December 1st. Remember December 1st, 2017, when I had that issue for the first time. Yeah, that was the third. I remember the 1st of December. You celebrate that with the chocolate cake with cream on top, which people do, apparently. Or cool whip if you're electrocuted. Whip. Whip. Whip. There's butter in that cake. Butter doesn't have lactose, does it? Yeah. I mean, it's made of milk. Right, but not all milk products have lactose.  I feel like butter is just like straight up lactose type milk, though, right? Okay, let's find out now. Okay, I don't know. I actually don't know. Butter have lactose? Wait, that doesn't work. Butter has a very small amount of a milk protein called whey. Whey's not actually. Which has the lactose. Very low in lactose. Very low in lactose. But if you're having cake, there's a lot of butter. So now you're racking it up. No, it's only if you have a high butter cake, like a butter cake. What cake doesn't have a lot of butter? Some products that contain large amounts of butter, such as cookies, cream sauces, and sauteed vegetables may trigger symptoms. Ice cream cake. Saute. That's a whole other problem. That's a whole different lactose problem. I know it's butter, but... Very good argument. Cook cakes have less butter. Ice cream cake, yes. Dammit. So aged cheese is fine. Yogurt is fine. Butter is listed as a food that doesn't usually affect lactose intolerance, except when it's used in high amounts, like you're saying. Cookies and cream sauces. Kefir is fine. Kefir. Goats milk. Like Sutherland. I'm also allergic to Kefir from Sutherland. It's true. So Kefir doesn't have lactose, but Kefir from Sutherland does. So that would be... Yes, true. That's why I could never watch 24. It's the rennet in his stomach. Get lost, boy. I actually had, when I was a kid, there was a lot of Kefir in my life. It was just one of those hippie things that parents gave their children. And a friend of mine who's Russian I was talking about that and she was like, Kefir? Is that what you're saying? And I was like, no, no, no, it's kefir. And she's like, no, it really isn't, I promise. That's probably why I say it's so weird because I'm pretty sure I learned it when I was studying Russian. Right, yeah. No, I think, I mean, he's right. I just like, I don't know. I probably just looked at it and just said it phonetically and that's how I thought it was the whole time. So it is Kefir? It's Kefir, yeah. Really? Uh-huh. Well, I mean, it depends on what accent you want to use, but I think. And I say, I always find myself saying Kefir, which is also wrong. So everybody's pronouncing Kefir Sutherland's name wrong. I mean, was Kefir, I don't know if that's Kefir. He's Kefir Sutherland. Someone get Donald on the horn and ask him. Well, that's Donald. In Russia, Sutherland, Donald's you. That sounds really, really bad. All right, I'm going to go get dressed up as Spider-Man for a Halloween- When don't you get dressed up as Spider-Man? That's awesome. I wonder sometimes if you have like that. Actually not, it's a Halloween anymore. Christmas party.  I am. That's amazing. I love that. They know me, they know me. Yeah, it's great. I was able to give away some meals to kids. But day before Thanksgiving as Spider-Man tonight, I get to hang out with a bunch of like kids, all these kids like enjoying Santa Claus and stuff. It's going to be great. Are you going to wear the bell hat though, while you're Spider-Man? I am, I am. Okay, good. I have that and I also have my yellow homecoming jacket. You're putting your Aunt May in danger by revealing yourself to Spider-Man. You know, you shouldn't be doing it. Do you know where I'd go as Aunt May or? No.  You know, she said, you know, you don't have to come with me, but maybe you'd want to show up because there's going to be other superheroes there. It's just not going to be me. Yeah, it's a whole Justice The Avengers thing. It's going to be Batman and like superheroes and princesses. Wow. Do you have a Halloween then? Yeah, I'm going to the wrong holiday parties. Seriously. It's going to be fun. So I'm going to go get dressed up, but it was good seeing everybody. This was a lot of fun. Yeah, thanks, Len. Thanks, Len. Bye, Len. Cool. Take care. Have a good weekend, everybody. Bye, Len. Take care. Nobody knows who you are. Len Peralta. He's a theme song now. Yeah. Well, he's Spider-Man. Yeah. I mean, he can't have the real Spider-Man theme song, so I gave him the electric company one. I didn't get your tune there. I was like, I know that theme song, but was it Spider-Man? You're like, wait a minute, that's not the right tune. No, that's the electric company Spider-Man. Of course it is. That makes sense. Yeah. I was a big fan of the electric company when I was a kid. That's really one of the only things I remember, because when I say little kid, I mean very little kid. Very little. Oh, yeah. No, I remember loving the show, and my mom was like, do you remember screaming and crying every time they'd say, hey, you guys, because I scared you and running out of the room? No, you were terrorized so much. You never... It was like a really difficult show for you. I love that. You're like, I love that show.  Do you remember this part? Yeah, like it was a whole thing. And that's how Sarah shows love. She runs and screams and cries. Yeah, they're yelling. That's how we know. The electric company. For some reason, hey, you guys made the Laverne and Shirley theme pop up into my head, and now I can't remember the actual... I'm thinking about the Goonies. I can't think of electric company at all. It's weird. Well, it started with, hey, you guys. And then I don't remember the... We're gonna do it. I don't really remember the theme otherwise. Oh, well, let's see here. Yeah. Oh, yeah. See, the rest of the theme is like nice and happy. What is that a whole new way? They're gonna turn it on, and then we're gonna get blocked on YouTube. It kind of sounded a Laverne and Shirley. They're gonna make it. Yeah. Right? There's some similar chords in there or something. That's just maybe from the time it was written. That was kind of the style of the time. Yeah. Onion on my belt. Like, no country music kind of has a toying now, even though the toying did not exist for really before the 70s. Hey, stop. You'll scare Sarah. No, Sarah, come back up. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I didn't mean to do it. Oh, God, oh, my God. Not a not a good ringtone for you, Sarah. Don't have that be a ringtone. I'll have that be my ringtone when Sarah texts or calls. Hey, oh, yeah. OK, I don't know who that is. Everybody else at the dinner table loves it when you've got like the custom ringtone for a friend that's like the private joke. I love that. Oh, man. OK, well, it looks like this episode is published. So sweet. Cool. We're good. Thanks again, Jason. That was awesome. And thank you, I guess, as well. Thank you. No problem. It was so nice to see you guys. Yeah, it was good to see you too. Nice chatting with you guys. Absolutely. Yeah. Come back. Next time I'll remember to wear a hat. Whatever date it is. We'll tell you. OK. Next time it'll be like a Tuesday and you'll wear a hat and we'll be like, oh, no. It's not a Tuesday. Then you can throw it down really angrily. Damn it, Jason. Don't you have like 40 hats at your disposal in Twitter? Probably. Probably, yeah. There's a lot of stuff going on out there. I didn't want to open the door and. Sure. No, I hear you. I couldn't come back if I opened that door. All right, man. Well, thanks everybody for watching. Have a great weekend. We'll see you on Monday. Bye.


Going on everyone Sam here with late in sports car dripping a mega dual-case NFL 23 penini origins and Gold standard football hobby Number one random team style. Here's a look again at your random results As always you can find these on the website under the results tab as well as the link in chat So good luck everybody. Let's do it. Thank you, Isaiah We are down to 10 to go and prism draft choice almost there everybody 10 to go. All right We'll start with gold standard finish with origins All right, here we go Sam how it's a 49 And Chad Rylan is 75. I think it was 3 30 a spot in this Cody 3 30 a spot Jamal Williams jersey card to 299 for the Saints goldmine Got tank Bigsby to 399 rookie Jersey for the Jags Mr. J Jetta's the 299 go into the Vikings go into the Vikings Gold strike Kurt Warner to 25 nice one there Cardinals Congrats, Arizona Nice one cards and Jalen Carter rookie Jersey auto 149 for the Eagles Congrats, Philly Nice one there box two of gold standard Yeah, not bad Theodore not bad Theodore picked up that Kurt Warner. That was awesome, dude Can he pick it to 49 and to set 99 Charlie Jones Malcolm Rodriguez rookie Jersey to 299 for the Lions Got Jalen Carter to 399 for the Eagles rookie Jersey newly minted got the mother lude of Jamar Chase to 299 Going to the bangles that's bangles and lots of bangles DJ Johnson rookie auto to 199 for the Panthers and Cedric Tillman golden debuts to 49 for the Browns There you go Cleveland Golden debuts This one for you This is the biggest baby in the game it's 99 collage I can't see Really? 75 Damian Pierce sauce Cardner to 299 Jake Bofa To 49 Rochon Johnson to color patch Nice one there What about Donnie Kurt Cousins to 299 Nice one there gold rush Jersey for the Vikings What about Bryson? If it's 24 Jackson Smith and Chigba rookie patch auto Grats on that one there Seattle and then RPA to 24 as well Jaden Reed good box there Grats on that Packers 21 of 24 What about Dylan oh, man, I could say we ever wanted by him hell. Yeah Yeah, there you go Steve said what about sprinkles All right, what about drippy To 99 his Tyler Murray It's a 30 Cedric Tillman to 299 Christian Watson Nice one here is gonna be a rookie at Jersey of Jake Hainer to 399 No 299 is Trevor Lawrence this next one's kind of insane dude. This next one is wild Going to the Dolphins good as gold Jersey auto of Frank Gore. Oh It's a 49.  That is really freaking cool. Frank Gore is a dolphin And Sam La Porta rookie Jersey auto 149 for the Lions This one there Leonis. Yeah, it's weird dude Again, everybody tend to go on prism draft choice ten to go on prism draft choice Ten to go last break of the night everybody got flawless after this and then we've got that we're gonna finish with that To five Henden Hooker nice one there. There you go Lions Congrats Detroit And to 75 there in Waller Sauce gardener mother load for the Jets to 299 That thing sticks Dalton Kincaid to 10 Laundry tag going to the bills Congrats Buffalo going to Matthew a good stuff there Matthew Nice one there, buddy Dalton Kincaid Cooper Cup on the white gold Jersey to 299 For the Rams Got Jordan battles rookie order to 199 for the bangles and then Jalen Hyatt rookie patch order to 49 for the Giants Ten to go everybody last break of the day Chance at some Wemby chance at those at some scoot Henderson all the big rookies Bunch of stuff. So let's get that filled last break of the night everyone Be going after flawless Adams and to 14 Tavius Robinson That is to 299 Romeo dobs They're gonna come wandering in here after the gunman personals to newly minted to 24 That is gonna be a Jackson Smith and Jigba got Devonte Adams to 299 gold rush for the Raiders K Sean beauty rookie Jersey auto to 149 for the Patriots We're just making fun of Kyle. He's breaking over on channel to his mustache And Bijan Robinson to 49 rookie auto horrible peeling on that. I apologize Falcons We'll send an empty box and wrapper with that that sucks That's great dude Oh, yeah to 14 George Kittle and to 75 Darius Davis Got a Darren Waller to 299. I think this is gonna be a random Yeah, so be a random right here Bijan Robinson Jameer Gibbs. That's pretty sick though three of ten Falcons logo and Lions Logo as well. So good luck on that to the Lions and the Falcons. That'll be a random Jonathan Taylor to 299 Gold rush Jersey for the Colts Got to Breeze Hall good as gold our patch auto the 49 silver ink on that as well. I just won their jets That's on that jets and then a Luke Musgrave rookie auto to 199 for the Packers And 299 a J Brown Yeah Marche's mother load to 299 Colby Wooden to 199. Yeah, I don't know about that one man That's on that Packers. What's up? Malcolm Rodriguez to 49 Patch auto congrats on that Lions And in no Connell rookie auto to 199 for the Raiders Grats Raiders in the Xbox getting roasted He's not getting roasted by us or is he getting roasted by somebody in chat Kyle smells Got to 49 Derek Henry and a 75 Jay Ward Aiden Hutchinson gold geared to 99 Jersey For the Leonis Got a Jalen Carter newly minted two-color patch for the Eagles a Jamar Chase to 299 gold rush for the Bengals As well as a Trey Tucker rookie Jersey autos to 149 and rookie auto Jamiro Gibbs to 49 for the Lions nice one there Leonis There you go at the Lions get everybody 10 to go 10 to go on prism draft choice. Let's fill that up guys almost there almost there Let's get it done Let's get it done. Lawless up after this that is a Jamar Chase to 75 case hit El Dorado Justin Jefferson to 24 Congrats on that one there Vikings Jay Jeddah's on the El Dorado T Higgins to 299 This will be a random as well right here Dalton Kincaid and Michael Meyer Bills and Raiders ran into both Kenneth Walker nice one there to 299 For the Seahawks got Seahawks again Jackson Smith and Jigba to 49 Congrats on that to go with the other RPA. We pulled of JSN to 49 and Bijan Robinson to 149 for the Falcons Congrats Atlanta second Bijan auto a break to 24 Joey Porter Jr And to 75 Jimmy Garoppolo Mark Andrews to 1 299 for the Ravens goldmine got Jay Jeddah's white gold to 299 for the Vikings BJ Ojalari rookie auto to 49 going to the Cardinals. There you go Arizona Felix and Duike Uzoma to 24 Nice one there for the Chiefs and Roshan Johnson to 149 for the Bears This one there bears to 75 Trevor Lawrence and 299 trade talker got Traylon Burks hard of gold to 299 for the Titans That's one there Tennessee hard of gold got Jackson Smith and Jigba to 399 for the Seahawks Nice one Seattle Jalen Hertz good as golds or heart of gold to 199 for the Eagles I'm getting a bowl of cereal get this guy out of here Tyler Algier to 199 Jersey auto for the Falcons and Zay flowers rookie Jersey auto for the Ravens Congrats on that Ravens This one there. All right, we're gonna go into the case of origins now everybody case of origins Got some cocoa puffs tonight. Nice shorts. I'm in on that got Bryce young to 125 for the Panthers and to 149 Justin Herbert Base of Mike Evans and Will Leviss rookie. I Don't think so still yet Kyle. I don't think it's out yet Jackson Smith and Jigba to 199 rookie Jersey for the Seahawks Congrats Seattle rookie auto of Michael Meyer for the Raiders and Jaden Reed rookie Jersey auto for the Packers This one there as well Marvin Mims to 99 And to 75 Nick Chubb miles Garrett and Ty J Spears got rookie Jersey Bryce young to 99. There you go Panthers nice one there Bryce young Marvin Mims rookie auto on card for the Broncos Got Rice Krispies, but I go with chocolate milk. That's pretty good. No And will Anderson jr. Rookie Jersey auto for the Texans Congrats Texans What's up chili chili? July So 125 Jared golf and to 149 Romandre Stevenson CD lamb and trade Tucker Jonathan mingo to 199 for the Panthers nice one there Panthers Tend to go on prism draft everybody prism drafter Tend to go tend to go everyone got Clayton tune rookie auto for the Cardinals and Tate Bigsby rookie Jersey auto for the Jags Grats on that Jags Clayton tune rookie to 125 and Cedric Tillman to 99 got Jake Hainer rookie and Henden Hooker primordial on the case hit for the Lions Congrats Detroit. There it is Primordial Henden Hooker That is gonna be hometown roots Clayton tuned to 49 For the Cardinals Luke Shoenmaker rookie auto for the Cowboys And then rookie Jersey auto for the Colts to 99 Anthony Richardson. That is an RPA right there RPA nice one there Congrats on that Indy Colts is Thomas G Here you go. Thomas. What's up? Yeah, that one too. Yeah, I'll have to do the randoms at the end See how some time to catch up and everything Brian Robinson jr. To 75 and Tyron Matthew to 50 Jimmy G and Zach Charbonnet Luke Shoenmaker rookie patch to 199 for the Cowboys This one there that's got Jaden Reed rookie auto for the Packers Grats on that and then redemption is gonna be Quinton Johnson rookie Jumbo Jersey auto going to the Chargers There you go, Brandon. I swung there buddy charges going to the Chargers I've liked writing them today, so See if you're gonna say something about my handwriting CJ Straut to 125 I think baby's right better 99 is Derek Henry love the word jumbo To 199 that is gonna be Jaden Reed Got Zach Charbonnet rookie auto for it the Seahawks Congrats Seattle and Sean Clifford rookie Jersey auto for it the Packers. There you go Packers That's sound pretty good Ten to go prism draft choice everybody last break of the night Yeah, it's a 125 for O'Shaughn Johnson and to 99 Hinden Hooker Godwin Taijai Spears now see why not just make sure you tag, you know doosevon to 199 Nice one there at Cowboys And nice one here another Anthony Richardson this time to 99 Congrats again Colts. We'll mag that one as well. There you go Indy Thomas G again Tank Dell rookie jumbo Jersey autographs go into Texans Congrats Texans on the Tank Dell Babies right Yeah Sounds good Steve. Thank you, dude. It's a 125 Tyree kill and to 149 Stefan digs Tomorrow chase sex Charbonnet Tank Bigsby to 49 on the patch nice one there congrats to the Jaguars We've got a Dalton Kincaid rookie auto congrats on that the bills on card rookie auto and Jaren all to 25 RPA congrats to it the Vikings Nice one there 225 clean tune and to 99 John Mechie Thomas and Jumeir Gibbs had been pretty flying Cedric Tillman to 99 for the Browns nice one there Browns. We've got Rashad Bateman Proving ground to 99 for the Ravens Congrats on that Baltimore Rashad Bateman and Sam LaPorta rookie Jersey Auto for it the Lions there you go Lions to 75 Tua and to 25 chase Brown CD lamb and Henden Hooker rookie got Terrell Davis Hall of Fame inductee to 25 Nice one there for the Broncos TV. They're James picking up a couple of spots tomorrow. Very nice Sean Clifford on card rookie auto for the Packers and Redemption of Deuce Vaughn rookie jumbo patch autograph orange going to the Cowboys Grats on that Cowboys 99 to John Watson to 75 Tyree kill Will Anderson rookie Stetson Bennett to 25 Rookie patch got Tyree Wilson rookie auto for the Raiders Deuce Vaughn Rookie auto for the Cowboys nice one there on card and then rookie booklet patch auto to 49 Henden Hooker Congrats on that one.  That is Bryce young And ten Ricky. What do you mean Cody?  That's actually pretty sick. Yeah, congrats bears Beer-wise like the cone of big wave. That's probably my favorite. That's a good one to 49 B. John Robinson. There you go Falcons Nice one there. That's always my go-to if they have it on top of the restaurant They have they sell them at Walmart too. I can Yeah, no, I love it. It's all you ate an O'Connell one of my favorites Nice one there for the Raiders. Oh for the off of the booklets. Yeah, I mean you could like Like if you're like holding them up, you could tell if there's a booklet in one of them, I would say To some degree Then you could always be wrong every now and then there's an extra auto and everything. It's really dependent. Yeah There's always nonsense in there too. Sometimes you'll get audit sometimes will be a redemption as well So it's a 149 Anthony Richardson 125 Brian Burns Aaron Jones and will love us got Zay flowers to 99. I just won there for the Ravens 1112. Yeah, someone should yeah. Yeah, absolutely rookie Otto Jonathan Mingo For the Panthers. Well, thank you Steve And J. Caner rookie Jersey Otto for the Saints Yeah, true. I have I ripped a ton of or I probably ripped like 30 cases origins last year at least probably more than that Tend to go prison draft choice everyone It's a sleep well tonight All right Traylon Berks to 75 for the Titans and 225 Desmond Ritter Mack Jones and will love us. That is a Michael Irvin to 99 I swung there got a 22 2,000 Card order on TCG player.  I think it'll be good hunter. I'm kind of excited for the top scrum update with the what's it called in it the Debut patches those are gonna be sick and Redemption of Jameer Gibbs rookie jumbo Jersey Otto going to the Lions nice one there Lions Congrats Lions Two boxes left on the break everybody True breeze to 50 Not true breeze Derek Carter 50. God. I say if a check out a 99. I was a bop move Traylon Berks and JSN Jackson Smith and Jigba most are one to two individual carts I'll take forever to pull it over Jordan Addison to 99 for the Vikings true it is a really nice Absolutely Oh, you're good hunter. No worries, man. It was appreciate the company. What's up, Hunter Roshan Johnson bears Otto nice one there Chicago and Tray Tucker to 49 at two colored RPA Congrats on that Raiders Last box of the break box 28 of the break Roshan Johnson to 149 and George Pickens to 99 that these guys out of here He gives them something to do Devonta Smith and Chase Brown Jalen Carter to 49 nice one there for the Eagles Congrats Eagles Sam Laporta rookie Otto go into the Lions Yes Correct Steve correct and Kendra Miller rookie Jersey Otto for the Saints That is us. All right a couple of randoms to do really quick We had the Bijan and Jameer Gibbs, and then we had the Kincaid and Meyer Mega dual case to one case of origins one case of gold standard Oh All right, everybody gonna do the random first off for the Bijan Robinson and Jameer Gibbs Pash to 10 Gonna roll the dice whatever team is on top after six times look at the card one two three four five and six Go into the Lions Congrats Lions on that one. I got it. Yeah, and then gonna do the Meyer Kincaid dual gonna roll the dice whatever teams on top after six times look at that one one Two three four five and six go to the Raiders Let us do a recap really quick Insane, what do you think of all right start off with our jerseys? We had Jalen Carter Jordan Addison Michael Irvin Zay flowers Dick Buckus Stetson Bennett Terrell Davis a Cedric Tillman tank Bigby Deuce Vaughan Jaden Reed Luke Shoenmaker Clayton Toon Jonathan Mingo Bryce Young Jackson Smith and Jigba Traylon Burks JSN Jalen Hertz Mark Andrews Justin Jefferson Kenneth Walker All right, we've got T Higgins Aiden Hutchinson Jalen Carter Jamar Chase T. Y. Hilton Jamar Chase Darren Waller JSN Jonathan Taylor Devonte Adams Cooper Cup Sauce Gardner Romeo Dobbs Christian Watson Justin Jefferson Jake Hainer Trevor Lawrence Jalen Carter Jamar Chase sauce Gardner Roshan Johnson Kirk Cousins Malcolm Rodriguez tank Bigsby and Jamal Williams autos now Tyler Algear BJ Ojolari Felix and wiki Uzoma Roshan Johnson Bijan Jackson Smith and Jigba Trey Tucker Jameer Gibbs Colby Colby Wooden Malcolm Rodriguez Aiden O'Connell Breece Hall Luke Musgrave K. Sean Beauty a Bijan Jordan battle Jalen Hyatt Jaden Reed Jalen Carter Sam Laporta Frank Gore Jackson Smith and Jigba DJ Johnson Cedric Tillman Kurt Warner Kendra Miller Sam Laporta Trey Tucker We had the Henden Hooker booklet Roshan Johnson Jameer Gibbs Tank Bigsby Jake Hainer Jonathan Mingo Aiden O'Connell Bijan Robinson Deuce Vaughn Tyree Wilson Deuce Vaughn Sean Clifford Rashad Bateman Sam Laporta Dalton Kincaid Jaren Hall Tank Dell Sean Clifford Zach Sharpenay Jaden Reed Quentin Johnson Luke Shoenmaker Clayton Tune Tank Bigsby Will Anderson a Marvin Mims Michael Meyer Jaden Reed and Zay flowers Magd cards Dalton Kincaid on the laundry tag to 10 Anthony Richardson to 99 for the Colts a primordial of Henden Hooker for the Lions and then an Anthony Richardson RPA to 99 that'll do it for the break everybody Thanks again for the fill up next is flawless


So one of the main kinds of models that analysts will use structural equation models for are for mediation kinds of models. One can estimate mediation models in other modeling frameworks but SEMs are particularly well suited to mediation models. What we are talking about really here is a focus on not simply the direct effects of one variable on another which is what we are implicitly focusing on and often explicitly focusing on in an OLS context but we want to decompose the effects of one variable on another into those direct effects but also effects that are running through other variables in the system. So we are going to be interested in the indirect as well as the direct and the total effects and this is because oftentimes what we are interested in is understanding causal mechanisms not just whether two variables are causally related but how they are causally related. So we might for example conclude that gaining a degree at university increases your earnings it might have a causal effect on your earnings in later life and that's a useful and interesting conclusion to be able to draw but there might be secondary questions about how that actually happens what is the mechanism that underlies the earnings return to gaining a degree. From a sort of human capital perspective we might expect this to be through increasing the individual's skill level or their productivity which would then from economic theory lead us to expect them to have higher earnings. On the other hand from a more kind of sociological perspective it might just be that the degree is just a credential and that it hasn't really endowed the individual with any greater skill or productivity but it's just given them a certificate which enables them to get to the top of the queue ahead of people who don't have that degree and those kinds of mechanism questions are often very important for policy and are at the heart of what we're doing when we're fitting mediation models. We've seen a couple of examples of path diagrams with mediation already and here we see an example where we have Eta2 a latent variable which is regressed on Eta1 and we have a third variable Z which is our kind of exogenous variable here and we can look at the the different effects that X has on Eta2. First of all the the direct effects of Z on Eta2 is the beta-weight beta-3 here the the direct path so that's what we would normally be focusing on in a regression equation that direct effect. But we can also estimate the indirect effect here because we've got the beta-1 coefficient of Eta1 on Z and the beta-2 coefficient of Eta2 on Eta1. Now if we take the product of those two parameters then that will give us the indirect effect of Z on Eta2. So that's how we can algebraically recover the the indirect effect of one variable on the other is taking the product of the two beta-weights. Then we will perhaps be interested in the total effect and this is the sum of the indirect and the direct effect. So we might find for example that both direct and indirect effects are non-significant but there is still a significant total effect. So we can get different patterns of an understandings of an effect of one variable on another by looking at these different effect parameters. We sometimes distinguish between partial and perfect mediation. So for example if we fitted a model that just regressed Eta2 on Z and we found a significant and substantial effect there then if we add in the Eta1 predictor if the effect of Z now becomes non-significant but the indirect effect is significant then we would refer to this as perfect mediation. All of the effect of Z on Eta2 flows through Eta1. Where there is still a residual effect i.e. a significant path between Z and Eta2 that would be referred to as partial mediation. Now as I said we can specify these kinds of models using a series of OLS models and we can recover the indirect effects by taking the product of the respective direct effects to get the indirect and total effects. One of the advantages of doing this in a SEM framework using SEM software however is that those kind of calculations are done for you and just provided in the output and additionally there are various ways of directly calculating the standard errors of those indirect paths. So we can either calculate the standard errors for these mediated paths using what's called the delta method a parametric approach which assumes multivariate normality or more commonly now using non-parametric approaches like bootstrapping resampling from the sample data to generate an empirical sampling distribution. If we do that of course we need to have the raw data rather than the covariance matrix. So the SEM framework is very convenient for doing this kind of modeling. We can have more complex mediated paths that run not just from one variable through another to a third variable but through several variables and we can get estimates of those indirect and total effects and their standard errors. Here's an example again using the European Social Survey an actual model here where we are looking at the effect of being in a high income group your income on your level of social trust and breaking that down into the direct effect of income on social trust through and also the indirect effect through your level of happiness or life satisfaction. You can see here that the beta weights on the path diagram there indicate that there are these are standardized parameter estimates and so you can see that there is an effect of being high income on social trust and there seems to be an indirect path there so we could just take the product of the 0.09 and the 0.35 parameters to get the indirect effect. If we do that we get a figure about 0.32 which if you look at this slide here you can see this is some output from AMOS software and you can see there that in red the indirect effect of the column variable which is high income on the row variable which is social trust is 0.032 which is the product of those two coefficients to give you the indirect effect and you can see that all of the possible path estimates are provided there directly in the output and also in SEM software you will get as I said the standard parameters either through bootstrapping or parametric estimation and here we see that the two-tail p-value for that indirect effect of income on social trust is significant at the 95% level of confidence so we could reject the null hypothesis that there is no indirect path between income and social trust. So that's a very brief look at the way that we can fit mediation models and what some of the advantages are of doing this within a SEM context. It's important to remember a couple of limitations here one is that in this kind of modeling environment we're really limited to continuous mediating variables we are difficult to estimate these kinds of models when the z variable is continuous and when we have a mix of continuous and categorical variables. It's also really not a framework for the kind of clean causal effect estimates and that we were talking about in the in the previous video on instrumental variables really this is just decomposing covariances there are other approaches that have a more of a causal estimate focus using the sort of the potential outcomes framework and that would be using g computation and so on and we won't be covering those in this video but it's important to be aware that there are other frameworks for estimating these kinds of mediation models which are a bit more modern and have a more robust causal influence behind them.