lair. Red Wave of Apollo Crews. Rey Mysterio Fearless. Yeah, it's been a pretty busy Sunday today. Socks. We've got Silver Kevin Nash. And Orange Rookie Malik Blade out of 99 on that rookie. Nice Malik Blade. Prismatic Entrances Drew McIntyre. Half here. Still looking for that second auto. We've got Hyper of Rampage Brown. Red Rookie Wave, Cora Jade. Riddle, next level. Well, we've got Silver of Pete Dunn. And auto. We've got a sensational signature of Ilja Dragunov. Nice. Dragunov on the auto. Ziggler on the golden search. Ready for some Steelers legend, Josh Dobb masterclass right here. Duh. Rather him than Darn Mason Rudolph. Got Atomic of Trent Seven. Blue, Josh Briggs that is out of 199. Fearless. I'll talk about opening day starter if Mason Rudolph like that. Silver, almost. We've got Red Austin Theory out of 299. Kofi Kingston. What's up Andrew, Nick? Been pretty good. Pretty good. Hyper Rookie of Val Kyrie. Red Wave, Dolph Ziggler. I was thinking about that a couple days ago, Nick. I was like, man, I haven't seen Nick in Twitch chat in a while. I'm glad you're back, Blake. How's basketball going for ya? Got Silver Rookie of Harlan's. Blue, Eric to 199. And Nakamura on the prismatic entrances. All right, box two. Let's go to the first box there. Let's see some color autos come out of this one for ya. Let's see, let's see. I'm just jersey to spell it for ya. The two? Yeah. We've got Silver Austin Theory and our auto sensational signatures Rookie of Parisa Parada. Paroda. Next level of Seth Rollins. Carter. Got Atomic Bianca Belair. Red Wave of Saray. Bailey Prismatic entrances. I know he's got face spots. I don't know if he's got autos in here, Andrew. Gotcha. Yeah, sometimes it's better to start off, you know, and show them what you can do starting as a freshman. You'll always be able to move up. We got Silver, Zane, Blue, Boata 199. Fearless Alexa Bliss.  Undertaker. Vapor of Liv Morgan. Red Wave of China. Alexa Bliss. It just depends on the set, like baseball a lot. Cracked Ice is Atomic. It just depends on the product. John Cena Silver. Red Ray Mysterio to 199. Dream McIntyre, like Tops. Like Hyper, what you would see in Panini is considered Prism. So it's like, they call it different names. It's always like that. Yeah, Hyper of Lee and Red Wave of Tozawa. Yeah, I like to make it, make it interesting. Keep you on your toes. Yeah, that'd be pretty cool, huh? We've got Silver and Akorama, and next auto, we've got Raquel Gonzalez on the superstar. There you go, Jeremy. Brock Lesnar Fearless. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yep, Prism and Atomic. We've got, nice, how about the Undertaker? Nice one there. And Red Wave, Johnny Uso. Johnny Uso. Johnny Uso. Yeah, it's a really cool car. All right, see some color back here. Got Silver Fabian Ockner, and Orange Robert Road. That is 36 of 99. Some left here. Rookie Hyper Von Wagner, and Red Wave Drew Gulak. Shawn Michaels, gold insert. What's up, Ari? Silver Hulk Hogan, and Blue Commander Aziz, to 199. Drew McIntyre Fearless, last pack here. Prism of Saddamura, Red Wave Charlotte Flair. That's a cool looking car. And a Prismatic Entrances of Sasha Banks. All right, Jeremy, that will do it for your two boxes of WWE Prism. Things is always for hopping in. We'll get these right out to you. There is that. That's probably nice. I believe so, yes. You said you were going to rip this, or no? Was there somewhere, someone's you were going to rip? No, I don't have any. No? Oh, okay. I thought it was. Oh, is it macarons? And then he joked that way. Yeah, you could open macarons, too. I don't want to curses. The Yankees, the Yankees. All right, Jersey and Leaf Trinity. Tom, you're next after with a moment from choice. Yep. Call the usual suspects on YouTube coming in. All right, Bradley. No, good luck. What's up, everyone? It's your girl, Kenzie, here from Leighton Sports Cards and I'm ripping a personal here for Bradley R. We've got an order of a 2021 Leaf Trinity baseball, as well as one box of 2022 Leaf Autograph Jersey multi-sport edition. All right, Bradley, here we go. Let's start with your Trinity here. Good luck. First box of this earlier was sick. Oh, probably more than that, dude. Yeah. You probably do that a day. Yeah, we probably do that about a day. Rock, paper, scissors to see who opens it. We can do that. Get out for that. Here we go. See a big Benny here. We got Acetate 325, Grayson Rodriguez. Trinity Clear Auto, 325. Another Acetate here. We've got a Alexander Vargas on me at Trinity Clear. Nice Vargas. I like it. I like Optic Football, for sure. Out of 50, we've got Auto of Oscar Coloss. Nice. I'm going to start here for you. Next up, nice one here on the Patch 270 and 75, Zach Geloff. Three color patch there. We've got Patch Auto 2 color here on Isaac Pacheco. And these are usually loaded with prospects. Very nice. It's going to be up in the bigs now, actually, I think. Pacheco, yeah. And nice one here, 12 of 50, Auto Colon Couser. Nice way to finish off this box here for you, Bradley. Solid box, 12 of 50. They really do, John.  So nice. All right, here we go, Bradley. Jersey time. Let's see what we can get you.  Or big nugget, or rocky, or I don't think I really don't have a hockey in here. Yeah, I don't know. All right, here we go. You got a Jameson Williams Auto. Jameson Williams. Sign it that way. There we go. Jameson Williams. Again, you got a JSA sticker here with your matching certs. Jameson Williams. Alabama, now a Detroit line. There you go. Very solid. Congrats on that, Bradley. Thanks as always for hopping in and for all your support. We'll be getting this right out to you. Bradley R. Jeff, there is one, two, three more orders to go, and then yours is up. Three more. Got a really, really good Jersey hit there, for sure. Trinity, Trinity, baseball, and straight for Bradley. Someone keeps taking the bars without bringing the Jersey there, so playing. You got Tom B. Refresh that. All righty, Tom. Here we go. Good luck. What's up, everyone? It's your girl, Kenzie here from Leighton Sports Cards, and I'm ripping a personal for Tom B. We've got two 2021 Bowman Chrome Baseball HTA Choice Boxes. All right, Tom. Here we go. Six total autos coming your way. See, we ain't get you. These are fire, yeah.  Yeah, Nick. Broncos should have a pretty good season this year. I think Wilson is going to take them pretty far. We've got a shortstop for the Padres, Reginald Prisciato. Nice one there. Prisciato, first auto. Then we've got for the A's, Petro Paneta. Another nice one there. A's first auto. And purple, the 250, Tanner Murray for the race. Another shortstop. 61 out of 250 on the purple. So all the first boxes are for you, Tom. All right, let's see if True Glow or something crazy come out of this one. That'd be nice, huh? Red, yeah. Nice one on the top to start us off. How about first auto of Victor Acosta? Another Padres hit. Nice. Then we've got rookie auto for Boston, a Tanner Halk. Tanner Halk, rookie auto. And we've got gold shimmer to 50. Sean Roby for the Giants. Sam called that gold. There you go, Tom. 26 of 50. Congrats. All right, congrats on that, Tom. Thanks again for hopping in, and we'll get these right out to you. Tom, the nice color. A nice base, first as well. Start writing out something I'm a little behind on. Oh, you're good. Two, two, one, two, one, two, three, four, Tom. That was Tom B, right? Tom B, yes. OK. Wow, so you've seen like the Holland and the Messy and Curry, all those pull. Publish that. We've got Jason C up next. Yep, two hobbies. Yeah, those are definitely a harder pull. All right, give me one second. I'll be right back. And we will get ripping on this one. Thank you, everybody, so far today. Well, Pondra has one as well. Oh, OK, I got that. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, he'll probably be in stuff this year, Andrew. I don't know if he's got anything right now. He might be in legacy. I don't know if he's going to be in a lead or anything. Dean, what's your IG? Let me drop a follow. Oh, nice. That's awesome. Another a week and a half. All right, this one was for Jason C. Yep. All right, Jason, here we go. Good luck. What's up, everyone? It's your girl, Kenzie here from Layton Sports Cards. And I am ripping a personal here for Jason C. We've got two 2022 Panini Select WWE Hobby Boxes. All right, best of luck here, Jason. Let's see. Let's see what we can get you, man. How'd I seen all of them? Another one? Yeah. Let's see if I can be as good as Caleb. I don't know. I pulled a ring side. I'd have him. Yeah. We've got Red on the Premier level, Rookie of D'Angelo. Jane, Rookie, filler here. Rookie tri-color, Vaughn Wagner. Oh, yeah. Silver, Apollo Crews, Mastiff. Breaking Brad into building. Just checking them out.  Would that be possible, though, with the light thing there? Or would we just have to move them? Come on, birds. Come on. The corner. We've got to 99 Red Auto of Eric. This is what Brad said he's going to dress up as for Halloween this year. Yeah. So? I was a lawyer. It looks like a Dragonborn from Skyrim. Yeah, he does. A Suga tri-color, big E. Who is Brad? Just some guy who works here. Yeah, she was watching the Cowboys game last night. Silver Sheamus. It was, like, 29 to 10 at one point. There was, like, three interceptions. They had two returns for Putchett. I saw that, yeah. Oh. You're not that bad. Dakota Kai on the next 2.0. Scope of Ted Dibiasi. Wilson, Rookie. Beasts and Stick, man. These, uh. Oh, wait. Who tore their ACL and MCL? Guard on, like, Voxette. Killer tri-color Rookie Harlins. Pretty quiet in, uh, we won't send it. Kenzie, yeah, there you go. I have a bunch of them. I have Matt. Ooh. We've got the Mizz on the patch. The Mizz, and I'm awesome. Is that Gibson Silver? He's got such a great entrance. Dean, I don't know which one's you. Oh, we got Blue of Umaga. Oh, I got you. I think this is you. Roger Rousey has McGraw. We got Tideye of Dewdrop. Nice. Dewowdrop, 2 out of 25. Dewowdrop on the Concourse. Tideye, nice. Devlin, and last pack. Box one here for you, Jason. Nice one here. How about a Braun Breaker Rookie Auto on the signature selections? There you go, Jason. What a box. Silver, Brett, Hitman, Hearts, and Lopez Rookie. Yep, there's two autos and one memorabilia per box on its selector. So no scene of Tideye in that, but we did get a Tideye. Let's see if we get one on here. Let's see if Sam can go Super 2. He did call that Gold Auto out of the HTA boxes. We got Red, Kevin Nash on the Premier level. Rookie ringside, Carmelo Hayes. I got you, I didn't realize that was you, I'm sorry. Rock on the Championship insert. We've got Red of the Great Collie. Braun Breaker Rookie ringside. Oh, we do have another Tideye here. We've got a Queen, Zelina on the Tideye Premier level. It's time 14 of 25. Two boxes, two Tideyes. There you go, Jason. It's hard to do. Those Tideyes are a pretty short print we have here. We've got a ringside action signature is Lacey Evans. Lacey Evans. Silver Rookie, Grayson Waller, Brock Lesnar. Bianca Belair, Scope of Seth, Frick and Rollins. I like saying his name. Yeah, no worries, Dean. Filler, we've got Tideye, Liv Morgan. I figured I'd let you know. Silver Hitman Hart on the Premier level. All right, still looking for one more auto and your patch, I believe. Here's the auto. Out of 99, we've got Red ringside action signatures of Cantana Chase, this red auto there. Tri-color Cameron Grimes, Cactus Jack, Sassy Southern Belt. Silver of Diamond Dallas Page, some color here. We've got Blue Jordan Devlin on the Concourse to 299. Strong, Undertaker. Tri-color of Fry, MVP, and Last Pack here for you, Jason. We have, nice. How about an Asuka patch? Asuka. Silver Julius Creed Rookie and Mark Coffee. All righty, Jason, now we'll do it for your boxes. Congrats on some more. Very nice cards coming your way. We'll be getting them right out to you. Jason C. Jason C with the WWE. Hello. I do love Select for that reason. Yeah, Fillers. We're going to be stocked up on those after football. Oh, yeah. All right, up next, we've got Dan W with a prism first off the line at football. I have to do this real quick. What's up, Tommy? What's up, TikTok? Again, if you'd like to hop in some group breaks later today with Forrest starting around 4 PM Eastern, you can do so. Our link is in the bio. Welcome. Glad to have you. All right, Dan. Here we go. What's up, everyone? It's your girl, Kenzie here from Leighton Sports Guards, and I'm Rip of the Personal for Dan W. We've got a box of 2021 Panini prism football first off the line. All right, Dan, best of luck. Let's see some beautiful shimmy shimmies here for you. Shimmy shimmy auto. That'd be sick, huh? That'd be awesome. Again, you got your photo sticker right there for you. We've got Jalen Waddle rookie base. Trayvon Mo-Rig. We've got Blue Ice rookie Nick Bolton for the Chiefs. It's out of 99 and all out silver Staphon Diggs. We've got Jalen Camp red shimmer color match here. Rob Gronkowski for the Bucks. Nice one there. Reds are out of 35. That is 23 of 35 on the red Gronk. Dave Marcus May for the Jets to 199 and Zach Cunningham Silver. Brock Lesnar, Michael Thomas, Ramon Drace, Stevenson, Rookie Base, Levi Muzerike, and Silver Tyreek Hill Chiefs. Gronk the Dope. Greg Newsome, Xavon Collins. We've got Purple Tony Boselli on the Purple Crack Dice. Jags of 225 and break Joe Burrow. Ooh, I see gold. I see a gold shimmy shimmy coming up here, Dan. Good luck, Monty Rice. We've got Rondell Moore, Rookie. Gold shimmer of Ryan Fitzmagic. Nice. There you go. That is seven out of 10 on the gold shimmer. Go on there for you, Dan. Fitzmagic. We've got Orange, Derek Henry to 249 and Silver, Ocho Sinko. He's pretty good, Andrew. You won a national championship as like one of the leaders of that Georgia defense. Third rounder to the Eagles. Sample, Kylan Hill. Got an Orange Wave coming. Nice. Jamar Chase, Rookie Base, and Orange Wave, Michael Gallop for the Cowboys. Out of 60 on that one. Sakehorn, fireworks. Brady, we've got Javon Hollands and Diamond Brown. Prism to 175 at the Screech. Nice, the Screech. Seahawks, Silver, Rookie, JC Horne. Racy McMath, Des Fitzpatrick. Red shimmer, DK Metcalf to 35. I think it was Seahawks. Nice receiver there, five at 35. Red Wave, Devin Bush II for the Steelers to 149 and Emergent Rookie, Rashad Bateman. Warner, got a little piece of glue or something on these right there. On these base, the Sully. They've got Elijah Moldin, Caleb Farley. Blue shimmer to 25. Rookie, Trayvon Mowrig. For the Raiders. Trayvon Mowrig and Red Wave, Rookie Otto. Simi Fajoco for the Cowboys. Well, Simi out of 149. Yeah, Justin Ross is pretty good. Got a back injury at Clemson when I'm drafted but picked up by the Chiefs. Should be solid. Jalen Darden, Chesa Rat. Purple Ice of Rokwon Smith to 225 for the Bears. Alvin Kamara for the Saints. We've got Forest Camel coming up. Got Elijah Moore, Rookie. Jake Funk, we've got Blue Shimmer. Devin White to 35 for the Bucks. Forest Camel of Ladinian Tomlinson for the Chargers. Nice LT on the Camel. That is 215. Three of 15 there. Two plus one equals three jersey number. Anybody want a one? And we've got a Van Jefferson on the Blue Shimmer Otto. Four out of five. Beautiful color match there with the jersey too. Nice Van Jefferson to five.  Oh yeah, Dean. Yeah, I'm excited to rip these ones for you. Got Mack Jones, Rookie Base. Pete Warner. Blue Wave of Josh Jacobs for the Raiders out of 199 and Hype of Brandon Ayuk. Alrighty Dan, that'll do it for your box. Congrats on those hits and we'll get them right out to you. Dan W. Jeff B. I know Jeff was asking about where he was. And Pete, you are up next. Right, Dan, let's get that upload in. Publish. Yep, Jeff B. Let's refresh that. All right, Jeff, here we go. Good luck. What's up everyone? It's your girl Kenzie here from Leighton Sports Cards and I'm ripping a personal for Jeff B. We've got an order of the 2022 National Sports Convention VIP Exclusive Gold Packs. And these come in lots of five here for you, Jeff. We've got one, two, three, four, and five. All right, best of luck. Thanks for hopping in and for your patience. Let's see what you can get you. That'd be crazy. Got Jalen Green and Velocity, Bo Jackson. Well, Bo knows. Got a Mack Jones, Rookie Base and Pink Cam, Pink Disco Rookie to 50 Dylan Carlson. There you go. Cardinals Rookie there, that is 13 out of 50. Not on the Carlson, some regular sleeves for me, too. Back three. Got Brace Harper and Hyper of Zion Williamson. Zion, back four. Come on, let's see an auto. We've got Justin Field's Rookie. Ooh, we've got Gold Shimmer, Rookie of Joey Barr. Boom! There you go, Jeff. One out of 10 on the Gold Shimmer, Rookie. We will take that beautiful looking card. Yeah, one out of 10 on that one. Heck yeah, and Pack Five. Here we go. We've got Jomerance and Hyper Rookie of Andrew Vaughn. Andrew Vaughn. Alrighty, Solid Five Packs there. Thanks again, Jeff, for tuning in and for your patience. So we'll be getting these right out to you. Gold from the Gold Packs. I love gold. Jeff B. Fumblish. Next, we've got Gary R. With a Top's Finest Star Wars. We're a pair, we're a pair. Thank you, refresh. What's up, TikTok? Hope you all are having a great day. Thanks for tuning in to our TikTok stream again. Just started recently streaming. Forrest will be streaming again tonight with some group breaks. He'll start at four Eastern. So definitely be sure to tune in for that. Almost done here, Rippin' Personals for the daytime. We do have about an hour left and the queue is full for the day. But all right, here we go. Gary, good luck. What's up, everyone? It's your girl, Kenzie here from Leighton Sports Cards and I'm Rippin' a Personal here for Gary R. We've got a 2022 Top's Finest Star Wars Hobby Box. All right, best of luck here, Gary. Let's see what we can get ya. Let's see, let's see. For two hits per Master Box. Let's see a sketch. I think I've pulled a sketch out of here. Definitely harder pulls. Refractor of Mayfeld. Oh, Trooper. Refractor of Ketch from the Bad Vatch. Grogu. Yeah, I haven't personally pulled one, Luke. I have not pulled one. I've got Refractor of Valen Hess from the Mandalorian. And Orange Auto, 21 of 25, pateen. Nice Orange, low number at auto, 21 of 25. Hunter base. Refractor Imperial Stormtrooper. And Baluta 150, Grogu. Nice, 137 of 150. Yes, Macaron, yeah. I've got Refractor of Trennus. 360, last mini pack of Box 1. Or first mini box, I guess you could say. Windu and Ray. No, Refractor in that one. All right, mini box two here. Let's put another hit. Come on, sketch card. Refractor R2-D2, that's a cool one. Omega. Refractor Hunter from the Bad Vatch. We've got Green and 99 of Cobb Vance. 42 of 99 on that Green. Kylo Ren. A Boba Fett on the Mandalorian. And we've got Purple Auto to 299, Admiral Akbar. I see on the back, it'll say like Tim Rose as Admiral Akbar, ugly looking thing. What is it? Gore Corsche. Refractor of Saw Gerrera. Mall. Refractor of Belle Zedafar. Zedafar, bird.  See something big. Refractor C3PO, there's a nice one. Refractor of Fennec Shand from the book of Boba Fett and Babu Freik. All right, Gary, that will do it for your Star Wars box. Congrats again on those hits. We'll get them right out to ya. Macaroon, up next. All right, we gotta do the Rock, Paper, Scissors on camera. That's right, yeah. You do it on camera, see who gets to do it. Publish. Again, everyone, let me drop the break schedule here. Force will be live starting at four, so not too long, about an hour and a half or so. All right, all right, Macaroon, let's see who's gonna do it. Can you see it? All right. You don't do the Rock, Paper, Scissors set. You do Rock, Paper, Scissors shoot, right? Yeah. It's a New York thing. Oh, my New York roommate. Paper, Scissors shoot. Let's go. All right, Sam's gonna do it, so blame it on him if he doesn't put something good for ya. Stop TikTok, jumping in for just a sec here. Thanks. Great. Hey, it was your idea. All right, here we go. Well, what's going on, everyone? Sam here with Layton Sports Guards, and I'm ripping five 2022 Peony Fathers Day packs for Ryan P, AKA Gold Macaroon over on Twitch. So good luck, buddy. Pull some fire here. Got Kenny Pickett, rookie. There you go. There you go. How about a Holla Lebron James, 131 out of 199. Nice. Solid Lebron. Never a bad thing pulling a Lebron, I would say. Number of Lebron. Got John Marant, base. Kenny Pickett, rookie as well. Jamar Chase, yeah, Jamar Chase, rookie. And Lamar Jackson on the insert. Pack of Lebron for the Celtics fan. Got Lamello, base. Omar Yurt, seven on the insert, rookie. Last one here for you, Macaroon. CD Lamb, and Dale Earnhardt, junior, heck yeah. That'll do it for your packs there, Ryan. Congrats on the hits. We'll get them right out to you. Thanks again, buddy. All right, the Holla Lebron's not bad. That's a very solid card. Very solid. I know there wasn't any soccer. Yeah, because I think in those you just have, I think Beckham's in it, Polisic is in it. Maybe the Ronaldo and Messi, I don't know both of them are. I know Messi is, and then I think, I don't think so. I don't think Hollan's in them, no. Yeah, you're a good Macaroon, no problem then. All right, back to your regular scheduled chemistry. What do we have next? We've got Luke T with a F1 Sapphire Recon and Donress Optic. Do, let's refresh that. What's up, Balaan? Alrighty, here we go, Luke. Good luck. What's up, everyone? It's your girl, Kenzie here from Leighton Sports Cards, and I am ripping a couple of personal boxes here for Luke T. We've got a 2021 Tops Chrome Formula One Racing Sapphire, a 21-22 Panini Recon basketball, as well as a 21 Panini Donress Optic Football H2. Alrighty, Luke, we're gonna start off here with the basketball. Good luck. Yeah, everyone, Magic Matt will be live over on our new YouTube channel, Leighton Baseball Breaks. Again, that starts tomorrow at 10 a.m., only baseball breaks over there, so definitely check that out. Grab some spots up, get this stuff filled up. I'll do Soon Moo Rookie, Hollow of Kelden Johnson, and future legends, Franz Wagner. Bangles, I would say, bangles. We've got Pacers, True Potential Rookie Auto, Isaiah Jackson. Pacers. Luca Hollow and a Jason Tatum on the pink. Malcolm McFried Rookie, Bronze of 2.99, Markel Foltz and Austin Rivas on the Rookie Recon. We've got Hollow, Brandon Boston Jr. Rookie, and Sky's the Limit, Evan Mobley. Nice one there, Luke. I love this guy's The Limits. That and clothing stations. Yeah. Evan Mobley Rookie, we've got two of five green color match, Paul Pierce. That's sick. Nice one there, Luke. Love the greens. I pulled a Tatum one of these on release day. It's just sick. The green on green is very nice. And maneuvers John Stockton. Yeah, I don't see green very often at all. Recons. Yeah. Rocks on the auto to 249 glorified signatures of Kevin Ureter. Red Delta, baby. I forgot your fan. All-pro team Joellen Bede. Yeah, trade it though. Still good though. Got a crazy run. We made it to the Eastern Conference Finals. It was on fire. Got Scotty Barnes Rookie. Jimmy Butler on the Bronze of 2.99 and Corey Kispert's Rookie Recon. Yeah, they're all nice looking cards for sure. Yeah. That was Bridges, Drexler Hollow, and Pink Curator. Yeah, you got traded, Sacramento. You're at 7 Rookie, Blue to 99, Charles Barfleet, and maneuvers Luka Donchich. Beverly, we've got Hollow of John Morantz and Rock the Rim of Jason Richardson. All right, solid box of recon there for ya. Now we'll do your Optic H2. Looking for those exclusive red mojo right at Rookie's out of here. Here we go. Harris, Jake, Funk. We've got Hollow of Mike Williams. Kellan Maughan on the red mojo, Rookie. Vikings in Hollow Retro Series, Dan Marino. Let's think we got some in here. Kyle Pitts. A Jalen Darden. We have to 25 Rookie Patch Autos of 2.2 Atwell. Nice. There you go. I did not pull one of these on release day, and that's the second one today that we've pulled. Yeah, there you go, Luke. Nice one there. Red Hot Rookie's Hollow, Trevor Lawrence. Of course, it showed up with an entire box of unfrustables for him, so. I'll be gone by the end of the night. Jamar Chase, Raider Rookie, and Hollow Raider Rookie, Greg Russo. Thanks for the follow, mommas. You bring a whole box of unfrustables. Stephen Collins. Michael Carter on the red mojo. Hollow Retro Series, Steve Young. The real question is grave or strawberry? Yeah, like strawberry. Colil Mack on the purple for the Bears, 34 out of 50. You've got Peyton Turner, Red Mojo Saints, Ian Book on the Gridiron Kings Rookie. We've got Andre Sisko on the Red Mojo Jags and Gifted Rookies of Justin Fields.  Officers are doing some soccer.  We've got Topps Chrome Sapphire F1. Here we go, Luke. Good luck. Exhausting. It's just, it's exhausting. What? Forest that is new, found love for soccer. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. All right, here we go, F1 time. Again, all of these will get sleeved and top loaded for you, Luke. Zoo. We've got Green Fernando Alonso from Alpine. Nice one there, that is out of 75 on the green. Shortsman on the Future Stars and Lewis Hamilton Grand Prix. We're stopping Lewis Hamilton Grand Prix. We've got Carlos Sainz for Ferrari and Lewis Hamilton Grand Prix. Nice. Asking for a big Sergio Perez, let's see. Colm, we've got Deletta, a Vettel and a Viscale. Come on, Sergio. Got Oscar Pioshtri, yellow of Petticoe. Nice one there, that one is numbered out of 199. Votas and Benoto. Leclerc, Gassley, another Gassley here and Viscur, next pack, Vettel. We have a Votas on the yellow that is out of 199 again. That's yellow there. Stroll and A of Vettel. Votas left. Lewis Hamilton. Got Aqua, Sergio Perez. There you go, Luke, on the Grand Prix. Aqua, that is 39 of 99. Congrats on that one. Nice Perez. Ricardo and Aila Clerk. Last pack here. Eddington and Ranconen. George Russell and George Russell. All right, that'll do it for you, Luke. Congrats again on those hits. Thanks for hopping in and we'll get these right out to you. Luke T, three box mixer. You uploaded that. Your father's new pack, sorry, okay. Yep, we've got Justin S. Yes, Justin S with a pack of silvers. Bunch of spots coming in for tonight. Again, let's get those filled up for force. There is the Group Break League. Again, he is breaking a little bit of everything tonight. Starting off with some Leaf Lumber Baseball 10 box case breaks. Still 14 to go in the very first break. There is the link for you there. I mean, tweet this out. Justin, here we go, good luck. What's up, everyone? It's your girl, Kenzie here from Layton Sports Cards and I am ripping personal here for Justin S. Hop back in. We've got an order of the 2022 Panini National Sports Convention VIP Exclusive Silver Packs. There's coming lots of five. We've got one, two, three, four, and five. Alrighty, best of luck, Justin. Thanks for hopping in. As always, got Joey Logano and Orange to 199 rookie Desmond Ritter for the Falcons. I wanna see him starting by the end of the year too. Probably. Bobby Whit Jr. And we've got Red to 99 Aaron Donald for the Rams. 66 of 99. Jonathan Taylor Bates and Orange to 199. Palo Banchero. See, he can help the magic win some more games this year. Riley Green Base and Purple to 25. Luca Donchich. Nice one there, Justin. 11 of 25. And last pack. We've got Vladigrero Jr. and Orange to 199. Nikola Jokic for the Nuggets. Alrighty, Justin. Now we'll do it for your silver packs. Thanks again. Congrats as always. And we'll get these right out to you. Yep, yep. A silver packs opening for Justin S. Let's publish. Yep, Dean W. With a case of jerseys. Doo-doo. And then Dean with four. Yeah. It's gonna be fun to open. I'm just gonna keep the box, I think, and just swap them in. Alrighty, Dean. Here we go. We got your case of jerseys here. Gonna be a fun rip. Best of luck. What's up, everyone? It's your girl, Kenzie here from Leighton Sports Guards and I'm ripping a personal here for Dean W. We've got 10, which is one case of 2022 Leaf Autograph Jersey Multisport Edition Box. Alrighty, Dean. Best of luck. Let's see. And we've got your seal. Trying to show it as best I can on her. True, Dean. Those five jerseys in the beginning of the day really made everything take off, I have to say. Oh, yeah. So, like, two and a half cases. Here we go, Dean. Best of luck. Let's see what we can get you. A full case of these jerseys. And then the last person all the day for Dean I. We got two deans ripping jerseys. We'll be four more. I think we still got more, like, in the back. I just don't know when they're going to stop that, Steve. All right. Up first. Oh, man. Ooh, that's sick. Marjax in auto. How to be a lambjack while Sam was here. I'm so jealous. There you go, Dean. That's so cool, dude. Nice Lamarjax. And you got your JSA sticker with your matching cert. Crate way to start that case. Lambjack. So nice. Goes missing. It was not me. Number two. Very nice start. Number two. Oh, this one's cool, too. How about a Wolt Frasier? That's really cool. A Wolt Frasier. That's cool. Nice throwback jersey, too. Beckett sticker with the matching Beckett card. Oh, Frasier. Yeah. It looks sick against that really bright orange. It just pops. Yep. Perfect color for a background there, basically. All right. Number three. Let's get one from every sport. That'd be cool. We got football and basketball so far. And we've got, oh, this is sick. Basketball again. How about a Jason Kidd? That is so sick. Throwback Mavs. Yeah. Wow. That's far. Jason Kidd. That is really sick. No, I was just saying, it'd be cool to get one from each sport. It's a multi-sport product, so you don't know what's inside of it. Nice one there. Jason Kidd, you got your Beckett sticker right there. That's sick. They'll make runs, Sanchez, where they do specific sports. Yeah. We've seen baseball, football, basketball. But I think that's pretty much it. Yeah. I like the stitches and slabs baseball that they did. That was such a cool product. Yeah. All right. Box four here. We've got, oh, nice. You called this one earlier, a Smith and Jigba. Jackson, Smith, and Jigba. Such a stud. It's not one pretty big. I feel like you signed it smaller on that last one. So nice big auto there. You got your Beckett sticker and Beckett cert thing. Smith and Jigba. That's wide receiver prospect in the last five years, I would say. All right, box five here. There's John. Don't fuck, guys. You've got, I know who's auto that is, the Cheetah. Nice. A little Tyree kill. Tyree kill jersey here. Chiefs, get your Beckett card and your Beckett sticker right there, the Cheetah. I'm excited to see what he'll do with the two of this year. Yeah, it's going to be interesting. The Ohio seat. All right, box six, second half of the case. First half did not disappoint. Very nice. We've got nice little Hall of Famer here for the Cowboys. Bob Lilly inscribed Hall of Fame 80. Bob Lilly Beckett sticker with matching Beckett card. Bob Lilly box seven. How about a Vince Scully PSA cert on that one? Wow. First baseball one of the day. Well, of your case here, Dean, that's sick. Wow. Silver, ink PSA cert. You got your sticker and matching card there. Vince Scully. That's awesome. What a full right there, Dean. Wow. Box eight. See, oh, nice. I love these jerseys too. How about a little Yattie Molina? Sweet. Yattie Molina jersey, get that cert out of the way. Silver, ink on that four. They put these sticker on the top of the four there. You're matching JSA cert. Again, Yattie Molina. Back to back baseball there. Not bad. That's cool. Box nine. Throwback jersey there. Yeah, I like the blue jerseys. So good. All right, box nine. We've got nice. Pulled this one earlier too. It's good duplicate. How about a little Tatees? Fernando Tatees Jr. You got your Beckett sticker and Beckett cert here. Tatees, cool Padres jersey there, the pinstripes. All right, is that back to back to back baseball? Yeah, after God. All nice names, yeah. All right, last one here, Dean. Can we see a soccer? Can we see a big soccer name? All right, insert Tatees joke here, huh? Messy to undit. That would be pretty darn cool. Here we go, Dean, last one. We've got, ooh, not soccer, but an all star here. How about a little Dame Dollar on the Lillard? Got some nice basketball jerseys coming your way. Damien Lillard Otto. You don't see that one too often either. Wow, Dame Dollar, you got your Beckett cert and matching Beckett sticker. Wow, fantastic case there for you, Dean. Congrats on all of those hits. Thanks again for hopping in. That was a super fun rip. And we'll get this right out to you. Heck yeah, Dean I, no, Dean W, sorry. We got Dean I up now. Dean W. Leaf, multi-sports. I see a curvy graph here. Jersey break for Dean W. Here it is, that one. Now we got Dean I. It was a Yachty Molina jersey, yep. Publish. So cool. The dog is named Yachty Cam, that's awesome. That's funny. Love it, dude, love it. All right, this is the last personal in queue. I've got a little bit of room left. If anyone wants to shoot an order over, again, I'm only going to be live for about another 20 minutes after this break. So yeah, just very limited spots left. Dean I. Daily kickboxing classes here.  She gives me my ribs and knocks some breath out of me sometimes. All right, here we go, Dean I. Good luck. What's up, everyone? It's your girl, Kenzie here from Layton Sports Guards, and I'm ripping a personal for Dean I. We've got four 2022 Leaf autographed jerseys, multi-sport edition box. All righty, Dean, best of luck. Here we go. Yeah, and this is the last one in queue. I'll give it a couple minutes after this. And if there's nothing that comes through, just call it a day and a little early before some extra time to get set up. A busy day today, that's for sure. Thank you all so much for all the orders. It's been fun, right? So two and a half keys. First up, we've got, I think we pulled this earlier for him, didn't we? Yeah. Bill Mazurowski on the, I almost said penguins. Pirates. Pirates jersey here, I don't think we've seen hockey. I don't know if there's any hockey in here. Got the Beckett sticker and matching Beckett card there. I got to reach that. All right. Box two. Turbine or messy. All right. How about both? That'd be something, huh? That'd be so safe. Yeah, they usually do, Cam. These are always fun. Box two. We have another Smith and Jigba. That's nasty. Yeah, that's a nice one. Signed that one big too. Nice. On the one there, you got Beckett sticker and matching cert there. Jackson Smith and Jigba. Going to be a stud. OK. Stud. Our third congrats, buddy. Awesome.  Oh, sorry, TikTok. You're knocking the phone everywhere. Yeah, that was sick. That's something you'll have to get. You got to get that one slapped up, man. Protected and slapped up, that was sick. All right, Dean. Here we go, box three. We've got two. How about a Randy White? I haven't seen that name yet today. Hall of Fame, 94. Randy White. It's a year I was born. Randy White. Cool on there. It looks like a really big jersey. And last box. Um, Dean, yeah, I'm not sure if we don't have any more on the site right now. There might not be too much left.  That's something you want to do. All right. Last one here, Dean. We've got nice. We just talked about him. Dean hit this in his case as well. How about a Tyree Kill, the cheetah? Tyree Kill on the chiefs. You got the Beckett's shirt right there and the matching sticker on the back for you. All righty, Dean. I that'll do it for your four boxes. Thanks again for hopping back in and we'll get these right out to you. All right. Yes, I did see that one come through. Let me go see if that's something we can add. If not, it might have to be saved for another day, Dean, for 2022. Let me follow the graph. Sox spray for Dean I. All right, yeah. Give me one second to go ask Dean. Pickups, all right. Yep, give me one sec. I'll be right back. You want to rip those gold packs, go for it. Hi, yeah, why not? Want me to write out your tag really quick, Josh? All right, here we go, Josh. What's going on, everyone? Sam here with Leighton Sports Cards and I am ripping five of the 2022 Panini National Sports Convention Gold Packs for Josh L. So good luck, Josh. Yeah, you like the Mariners hat? Yeah, I had to rock it today for sure. Got actually two Lamellos in one pack, very nice. Got a base rookie Lamello and then a hyper Lamello. Oh, the four like that. Oh, jeez. Got a Alec Bohm rookie and a Fernando Tates Jr. laser. Yeah, Dean, so we only have a couple cases left. What they're planning on doing is maybe possibly doing some group breaks with them and then saving some more for personals down the line. So unfortunately, we can't do another case for you today, but definitely check back within the next few days to see if they're added. Juan Soto and Crack Ice, Charles Barkley, nice. That's to 99. Sixers, 55 out of 99, the round mound of rebound. Let's see a big animal print here. Feeling of domination. Barry Sanders base and Jerry Rice on the hyper, not numbered Niners. And last pack, we got a Tiger, got Zion Williamson and Tiger Stripe of Spencer Torkelson. Nice one there. Yeah, and these are not numbered. They are short printed though. That is so sick, so sick. That'll do it for your packs there. Josh, congrats on the hits. We'll get them right out to you. Thanks again, buddy. Two more minutes. If you want to get a personal ordered, do so right now, as we've got a 3 PM sharp cut off. If we don't get anything in the next couple minutes, we'll just call it a day. Yeah, no personals after group breaks tonight, since it's Sunday. So anything ordered after we call it a good for the day, we'll rip tomorrow after group breaks. Are you ripping tomorrow? Caleb, I'm off tomorrow. I'll be on Tuesday. So I'll go tomorrow with Caleb. So again, just a few minutes, going to wait, see if anything comes in. If not, I'm going to call it a day.  As I said, it's our daily kickboxing class right now. Oh my gosh. It would really rip like almost three cases of those jerseys. That was crazy. Absolutely. Ha, those jerseys are awesome. Yeah. Again, everyone, force will be live here for some group breaks coming up in a bit. Let me get you the link here. There is the link. But all right, probably going to get off the TikTok here. Yeah, Derek, we'll be back on at 4 PM Eastern for group breaks. But thanks again, TikTok. Again, we'll be live for about another five minutes or so over on YouTube and Twitch, any other orders come through. Again, we do appreciate you hanging out. Be sure to head over to our Twitch and YouTube where we primarily stream, starting to stream more here on TikTok. But that's where we'll always stream seven nights a week from usually about 4 PM to 2 AM. But thanks again, TikTok. Have a great rest of your day and force will be live back here in a bit for you. Thank you. Grabbing a box now, Richard. Sounds good. Albert Buchos, pass the Stan Musoff. Pass the Stan the Man. Total bases in two Homer performance. Can you do what? Oh, if you're going to do a trade or something, just be sure to email us, Bradley. We'll need emails from both of you. Yeah, we'll need emails from both of you. There's the email. And then I'll forward those onto the shipping. I think we should be able to do that.  No, I need both. I need emails from both of you. Sounds good. Richard grabbed a UFC hobby. Got it. All right, Richard. I'll write the tag up. UFC hobby. Yep, Victor, he will be live tonight for group breaks starting at four. Yep, he'll be the one ripping those. All right, last call for personals after I rip, Richards, if there's nothing in queue, I'm going to go ahead and log off. So again, if you want anything ripped now, do so. Do so now, get those orders in. And if not, it'll go tomorrow night with Caleb after group breaks.  That's crazy. Bye, Karen. Have a good one.  It was cool. It just was like very uncomfortable. School's talking with me. It was like, it's like freezing here. I'm like, I am dying. It is so... All right, here we go, Richard. Good luck. What's up, everyone? It's your girl, Kenty here from Leighton Sports Cards and I am ripping a personal here for Richard V. We've got a 2022 Panini Select UFC Hobby Box. All right, Richard, thanks for hopping in. Let's see what we can get you. Come on, come on. Did you see the fight last night for us? No. Who's mom got knocked out? I did, I saw the update and I saw the knockout. I didn't see the fight, though. Crazy, crazy. Saw the meme just when I put him on the ground. It's just like... Staring in the sky. We've got Nunez on the numbers and Silver Angela Hill, did you? Yeah, it's nice to see the underdog win every now and then, especially with someone who's so cocky like that, too. Yeah. 15 straight, I think we were talking to him. Rodriguez, Ricky, we've got Tri-Color Islam, Machiko, Makonche, Makonche. That one there's someone cocky. That makes it so much sweeter when the other person wins. Yeah. Yeah. So, I can't stand Colby Cunningson. He's the worst. Ospinol, John Jones, we got out of 99, Stepe Miokic on the patch auto. Nice one there. Heavyweight. Silver patch auto. Awesome, I'll be sure to forward those along to the shipping department, yo. A Krylov on the Aqua 199. Global of Islam again. We've got Silver Rookie of Nicalu. Flyweight Division. Sterling Volk. We've got a Evlov on the Rookie Octagon side and White of Derin Till Middleweights. That is 22 of 75. Love the white parallels, works so nice. We've got an auto coming up here. We've got Rob Fount on the Octagon action signatures. Rob Fount. Shrycolor of Marcin Tibera. Heavyweight. Pena, we've got Phenomenons of Patty. Nice. He's so funny. And Amy Greger on the Light Blue to 199 on the concourse. Nice numbered McGregor there. Okay, that's pretty solid. Oliveira, A Jalen Turner Rookie, and Silver Marab Vishvili. All right, Rosa. We've got a Patty Rookie base on the concourse. Lingo. And we've got a Figchietto on the Silver Patch. Nice. Flyweight. Silver Robert Whitaker. Los Anjos. Pena, Yadong. And scope of Giuliana Pena. This one there. Couple packs left here for ya. There until, Mjölkic. A Paul Craig Rookie Octagon side. And Silver Rookie Phil Haas Middleweight. It's on the Premier level. All right, last pack here for you, Richard. I love Dern. Got a Patty on the Premier level Rookie base. And Shrycolor, Cyril Gahn. Nice one there on the Heavyweight. Alrighty, Richard. That will do it for your box. Congrats on the hits. Thanks again for hopping in and we will get these right out to ya. Richard V. That uploaded. Richard V. Thanks for hopping in, Richard. All right, everyone. No more orders in queue, so I'm gonna go ahead and call it a day here. Just about 10 minutes early. Again, we thank you so much for all the orders today.  Again, Forced will be live here in about an hour for group breaks. Here is the link again for ya. LaneSportsCards.com underneath the break schedule. Again, he will be starting at 4 p.m. Eastern. Again, baseball, basketball, football, soccer, Star Wars, F1. He's ripping a little bit of everything today. So again, thank you all so much. Have a fantastic rest of your Sunday and your weekend and we'll see you back here in about an hour. Thank you, everybody.


Welcome to Longmont Voices and Vision, a project of Longmont Public Media. In the midst of the darkest period in our lives, when we're bombarded 24 hours a day with news of the coronavirus and the human and economic carnage it's causing in our society, we're challenged to cope with our fears and anxieties, we're remaining hopeful about what lies on the other side of this crisis. This project presents an opportunity for Longmont residents to share with others how they're adjusting to new realities of social distancing and the kind of future they hope to experience on the other side of the crisis. I'm Tim Waters, host of these conversations in a Longmont Public Media Volunteer. In this series, I'll be asking Longmont residents, many of them your friends and neighbors, three questions. What are you doing to get through this crisis? Even though we cannot be together right now, how are we staying connected to friends and families? And what's the future you are hoping to see and experience on the other side of this crisis? I hope you'll stay with this series and enjoy listening to your friends and neighbors and learn from them how they're getting through and what they're looking forward to in a new reality on the other side. Shaquille DeLau, thank you for lending your voice and your vision to the Longmont Voices and Vision Project. Good way to start with this interview is to share with me and then others who will see this recording a little bit about who you are. Well, thank you very much for doing this, Tim. I think that this is an incredibly important project. So my name is Shaquille DeLau. I am one of the people who has been fortunate enough to move to Longmont in the past two and a half years. I moved here in August of 2017 to start a company that was working on technology for the semiconductor industry. And in the past two and a half years, I have grown to deeply love Longmont and beyond just being here for work or for business. And part of the transformation that has occurred for me in the past year is realizing that this is the place where I want to live forever. I see truly great things in Longmont and very few of those things have really been substantially changed by the events of the past month. And so I am particularly excited to talk to you about the future that Longmont could have. So let's talk about, first of all, in the current situation, unprecedented in any of our lives. How are you getting through? I think that's an important part of the story. How are people getting through this time of social, physical isolation and social distancing? So part of my personal history that plays into exactly how I am handling the current moment is that I have moved a lot in my life. And as a result, connections to people are particularly important to me because I don't really have a hometown. I don't have a place that I go back to for the sake of nostalgia. My connections are to people. And so the way that I'm getting through the current moment is by taking care of my family, my parents, my sisters, my nieces and nephews, checking up on them, making sure that they have what they need to get through the current moment. But also to try and take care of what I think of as my adopted hope of Longmont and to try and stay connected to the people and places here that are important to me. I've been really lucky in my time in Longmont that by accident or by good fortune or something else, I've managed to become sort of integrated into a couple of really important community organizations. First, it was the Longmont Observer and Longmont Public Media. I'm involved at Tinker Mill and a couple of other places in town where there are really places where people from all different backgrounds in this community congregate and work together in ways to help each other and to make the community a better place. And so the way that I've been coping with the challenges of social isolation and social distancing and the risks to the Longmont economy and to the overall ecosystem here has been to do what I can to keep those institutions strong, because I think that they're critical to how we're going to get past this. So, nice segue into my second question is, how are you staying connected to friends and family in this time of unprecedented isolation. So, the way that I've been staying connected to people has been very practical. I do a lot of zoom calls. I, about once a week or so my, my entire extended family about 30 of us have been jumping on a zoom call, and just saying hi to everyone and seeing how we're all doing and catching up with each other. Because despite the fact that a lot of us are trapped at home right now, we live all over the country and social distancing requirements are different in different parts of the country and so there are still things that are going on in people's lives. My parents haven't left their home in three weeks because they're trying to protect themselves and make sure that they stay healthy, whereas my aunt just threw a birthday party for her grandson, my nephew. And you know, it was great to see the whole family together there. In terms of staying connected to the people here in Longmont. Some of the stuff that I do here is sort of looped into essential services and so on sort of a limited basis we've been able to see each other in person and stay connected in that way. But that's another case where some of the technological advancements of the past 1020 years have really made it possible to stay in touch with people in the ways that didn't used to be possible. It's trivial to make a phone call now. Longmont Public Media uses Slack all the time to stay connected, and that's been an essential tool, doing Zoom meetings in order to have our weekly meetings take place. Those have really been the little stitches that have kept connections together, but what's, what's more important is really weaving that fabric that fabric of people. And that's been little things like there's a member of the Longmont Observer Board who's had a fever for two weeks hasn't been able to leave her home. So I've been taking care of her by making sure that she gets groceries. I've been staying in touch with Marcia a lot and making sure that she's her needs are taken care of and just calling her every once in a while to make sure that you know there's Marcia Martin. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is Marcia Martin. Just making sure that there's a sense of social connection beyond just, hey, how you doing. Yeah, okay, you need anything. That's fine. And so we talk about our mutual interests and I think that it making sure that connections like that survive this time period are going to be really important for us coming together as a community after this to make sure that we build a stronger Longmont that is better able to withstand shocks like this. So let's talk about Longmont after this. Fair to assume that whatever we settle into as a new normal will be different than life prior to this crisis. So I part of this project is to invite participants to share what's the preferred future for you. What would you like to see us move toward in whatever the new normal is. So as someone who's relatively new in town, I've had the advantage of seeing Longmont during what I'm told is probably the greatest economic boom time in its history. And it's really easy to fall in love with a place during during a time like that, because everything is good. But I feel fortunate in that I feel like my connections to this town have relatively little to do with sort of the economic good times and a lot more to do with the people who have actually connected to. And you're one of those people actually you're one of the people who I would count myself as very lucky to know. I'm flattered by that comment. And so I actually think that your perspective as someone who's lived in Longmont for a long time is incredibly valuable. What was Longmont like in 2009. Right so so there was you know there was that time before that economic impact and the time after and what what changed in that period. Yeah. Well so just for for the sake of accuracy, my life in 2009 was largely on airplanes I was running an organization that got offices in a bunch of different time zones. And, and we'd opened offices in Honolulu and Melbourne Australia so I, I spent a lot of time commuting around the world. My, my view is that while Longmont has been a terrific place for us to live when we moved here in 1994. My wife and I had never lived any place more than seven years with my professional life had taken me on the road, a lot of places. But we moved here and we weren't here very long before we said the same thing you did this. This will be the last stop. This is where we want to set down the roots and spend the rest of our days, no matter what happened professionally this is the place. But the transformation or at least the transition, after the both of the, the, the economic downturn in 2009 and maybe more defining was what happened in 2013 with the flood. The result of those two events. In my view, cause this community to get more focused on on some shared priorities on while we have huge issues in terms of what's equitable terms of economic development. I think the community came together on what do we do together. It at least increases the prospects for a larger cross section of the community. More attentive to generational transitions, knowing that old people, you know boomers like me, hey, okay boomer. Part of our job is to connect with a new generation or two new two generations following us that that do that are more likely to secure a balanced just sustainable future for the community. We're a long we have a long way to go to get there, but I do believe that that was the effect of what happened in 2009 and 2013 be clear on what we can do, what we need to do, and what the priorities are for for getting it done. Part of what I've been really impressed with in observing the long months local government has been the, the level of fiscal discipline that the city has really exercised in the time that I've been here. But of course, that level of fiscal discipline doesn't show up overnight it's it's the result of careful planning over many, many years. How much of that was the result of the 2009 2013 events and how much of that do you think is the culture. It's largely a result of those events. There's a lot that that didn't happen after 2013 that were on somebody's agenda to do list that didn't happen because of the need to attend to priorities that had to be addressed as a result of the flood. And I will say this, I think, I think one of the great examples is what's happened along the same thing river. If anybody looks historically at what happened along our greatest natural resource. It's what happened in all over the country. People turn their back right it became a way to transport waste out of the city. It was just when you look at it you think how could those decisions to the name.  People were mindful of that there've been floods that you weren't going to build things in a flood plain. But what the what happened after after both 2009 2013 there was a new appreciation I believe and understanding of the value of the of the asset right of the natural asset, and the value use that we need to bring to the for to protect. Long term. I think that was true in many ways and across the community but I think the most stunning example is is looking at what we did. Historic that contributed to the problem. And what we now have an obligation to do to keep that from happening again and balance protection of a natural resource with how we develop around that natural resource in ways that serve the economics, economic growth of the community. And create opportunities for generations of of long mantras right to live and work and grow in a place that both sustains a way of life, and protects our natural resources. So I think that's absolutely fascinating because I think it's those aspects of governance and culture and priorities that have made long month such a great place for me to live. And I think are exactly the qualities that will carry long month into the future by setting priorities to learn mistakes from the past to figure out what do we need to build a strong base for the future. I mean that's a philosophy that by itself can be wildly adaptable to all sorts of situations whether it's a flood or an economic downturn or a pandemic. That kind of thinking is I think exactly the sort of thinking that will serve long month well into the future. So, in terms of what I want to see long month turn into. In part it's this building that culture is the hard part. And once you have a culture like that in my opinion, in my opinion and in my observation. A lot of the next stuff comes a lot easier because in general, if you go to any random municipality, there's special interests and competing desires and people who can't agree on what the right thing is doing you wind up with gridlock. But by having established the culture that the common good is really what's being sought here. I think that that's a phenomenal foundation for what the future could be. But what I would like to see in the future of long month is really economic and cultural resilience. I think by designing the city in such a way that it can be resistant to future economic downturns and be inclusive of all people.  And I think long month has really positioned itself in a way that it will allow it to do that. Just telling someone the other night that sort of my fantasy for long month that I would like to see us achieve is long month is very close to being and could be a city where anyone of any economic means can live in any neighborhood in the city that they would like. So rather than picking where they live based on their income or their language that they speak or something like that, they can pick the neighborhood they want to live on because, you know, they really like the art teacher in the local school, or they really like the the culture, right they like the neighbors, they like the streets accessibility to amenities that they're particularly interested in whether that's Macintosh Lake, or the downtown business district. Finding ways to make sure that anyone in the city can live anywhere they want, according to their desires rather than their economic means, you avoid all sorts of problems that can occur during economic downturns. It makes it possible to avoid gentrification where people like me, who have who are highly educated and with good incomes, push out the people who turned the city into the great place that it is right. If I come in and displace someone who spent their whole life building this city into the wonderful place that it is, that's a net loss for the city, because it's not clear what my value is compared to someone who was already here. But if there is housing available of all different prices and all different neighborhoods, I can say well, I choose to live downtown because I like being near the restaurant that I like to go to. And I like living near Roosevelt Park, and that's a choice that doesn't take that choice away from anyone else. And it means that in hard economic times like the ones that we might be facing, it means that they're never, there's never going to be a bad part of town. All the parts of town will sort of feel the downturn the same, but we'll still be in a position where we can pool our resources as a community to make this a better place to live. And we're very close to that, I think. I think that is something that Longmont could achieve in a decade if it wanted. Well, you invited me into your interview, which I have not participated in, I've just been asking the questions, but if on the other side of this, the values of justice or what is just balanced, equitable, fair, inclusive, sustainable, durable, healthy, right? If you think about what does, you know, how do you find your soul in economic development and in the future? Because in the last 40 years of the neoliberal agenda, a lot of folks feel like we lost our souls. So if that's the conversation that we can, if these interviews and this experience and what else is happening in the community accelerates or energizes that kind of conversation and then a recalibration of what it all looks like and how do we build this community that the prosperous over the long term in terms of its spirit as well as its bottom line financial prosperity. And it's shared with this entire population. Then we will have capitalized on the crisis in ways that ought to be like us as a thoughtful, inclusive, engaged community. So thank you for inviting me into your interview. And thank you again for your contributions to this project. Take care of yourself, your family. We all look forward to when we can not only take advantage of Zoom, but be in the same room again together to do work, to work together. Looking forward to seeing you again in person soon, Tim. Thank you. Steve and Jan Cukic. Thank you for letting your voices and your vision to this project. So share with Longmont residents just a little bit about who you are. And then I have three quick questions for you.  I am a retired consultant and special educator and I am very happily retired, not being on airplanes anymore. And I served as the State Director of Special Education in Utah for 11 years and then went to work in a company here in Longmont, in Fortress West and really enjoyed that time as well. And now I'm volunteering and just enjoying my family in this weird time and friends using kind of opportunities like Zoom gives us. Jan. Well, I'm a retired nursing executive. I've been retired a few years now and haven't missed it a day. Enjoying having fun, although right now it's not the most fun, but thank goodness for FaceTime and Zoom and different ways to communicate with one another. Well, that's a pretty good segue to the first question. What do you, it isn't, it's not a normal time for us in any of our lives. What are you two doing to get yourselves through this current crisis? Well, we have a very exciting game of Five Crowns, which is a card game. We are having a tournament and interestingly. And it's 7 to 6 Jan. Yeah, I've never led a tournament before in Five Crowns. So that's pretty awesome. And we're doing a lot of cooking and watching TV, especially Netflix and what else are we doing? We're taking care of our grandson a few hours a week. We've been cleared to do that by some medical people and that's really nice. I don't know what people do because Teddy to us is just like our child. Yeah, we're very blessed about being able to interact face to face with our daughter and her husband and our grandson Teddy. That's a real joy for us. And so that, that's the segue to the, to the second question in this kind of social isolation and physical distancing. How are you staying connected with friends and family? You shared some of that already, but what else should we know? Well, yeah, yesterday's a good example. Jan has a brother and sister in Newton, Kansas. And so we got together, the three couples got together yesterday on zoom, and it only took us 25 minutes of the time on zoom to get it set up. And it was finally all set up and we're going to be meeting every Monday afternoon. It seems to me that that's a really important thing to do using the technology but using it in a regularly kind of scheduled way I think makes some good sense. I just got off the usual one hour call that I have about eight o'clock in the morning on Tuesday mornings with our men's Bible class from Central Presbyterian Church and it's just a joy to interact with those brothers every, every Tuesday and check in on them and just to have some laughs and to have some thinking about very important issues and, you know, I'm on five boards and I've taken the opportunity to get meetings going in virtually all of those organizations using zoom because it is a way for us to stay connected. And the third of my three questions really is about the future, assuming that on the other side of this, there will be some kind of new normal. You don't know what that's going to be. But assuming it's going to be different. What's your preferred future. What would you like to see an experience on the other side of this crisis. Well, I would like to see a big turnout in voting or President or local elections so that we really have leaders that are representatives of the people and that we get some leaders that really do care for the people, as opposed to their own financial issues. I think that's a that's a great point if this doesn't get more people involved in their communities in all kinds of ways like voting. I don't know what what will do it. All the criticisms we've made about social media has allowed us if we if we choose to use it to stay connected. And I hope that that my great hope is that we will understand our interdependence across this globe, and that we will stay connected after this crisis ebbs a bit. And, and that's, that's what I hope happens. Stephen Jan Cougar. Thank you for sharing your, your voices and your vision with Longmont residents. Kathy Pomar. Thank you for lending your voice and your vision to the Longmont Voices and Visions project. Tell us just a little bit about who you are. So we know who we're hearing from. Okay, thank you Tim. I'm happy to be here and I'm a longtime Longmont resident I was born in Boulder and moved to Longmont when I was four years old with my family. And I love this city. I would say that I am an ambassador for Longmont Colorado whenever I'm speaking to anyone about this community. And I'm just happy to be here today and want the best for our city and I appreciate you doing this. Well, it's, it's, it's been a joy to have a chance to interview Longmont residents, especially given what we're going through right now. And given what we're going through right now I have three questions I'd like you to answer. The first of those three questions is this, how are you getting you and in your family through this. Well, I'd say that my, the most beneficial is getting out and walking and biking, getting out into nature is important and we're staying close to home to do that like the governor has asked. We're wearing our face masks now when we go outside. And we're also, Mark and I were fortunate enough to be able to meet a couple in Australia that asked us to get on bridgebase.com. And so we're playing bridge with them every other for a couple hours so that's been a lot of fun and I would recommend bridgebase.com to anyone interested in bridge. They give lessons and they give all and they've all left levels of bridge. So, and I have a app called down dog which is a yoga app. So I've been doing that. And I'm reading and cooking a little bit more cleaning out our freezer. I asked a friend yesterday of steaks that have been in there for seven years would still taste okay. Getting to the back of the freezer. We're watching movies. And so we're getting by. Okay, you know just hoping for the best for everyone else, you know the world. So some of what you shared with what you're doing with your friends in Australia, kind of a segue to the second question that is in a in a in an unprecedented era of physical distancing and or separation and social distancing is what where we can't be together physically. How are you staying connected with your friends and family. So that's really been important to me. And so, with our three sons and their wives we and chill in our grandchildren we connect with FaceTime.  We called, I've called many friends and I haven't talked to for a long time. I've talked to others friends because mom passed away in November so I've called her friends to check in on them. And I just enjoyed connecting with people that I maybe wouldn't even take the time for if this situation wasn't happening and then we had personal visits from friends on the debt we're on the deck they're down below. And so that's been fun to with neighbors and friends. So there's been no problem in that area. And it's safe to assume that what we all know there's going to be another side to this crisis where it's safe to assume that life won't be just exactly the same.  But one of the questions is, what would you like to see what's your preferred future what would you like to see an experience on the other side of this crisis. Well, I think I want to, I want to take on a little project I took on a couple years ago. It's not saving the world's health crisis, but it's a little long month thing because I really value the agricultural community in Longmont, having grown up here and I know that it was filled with farms all around us when we grew up. And so I want the, I would like to see the silo on highway 66 East of pay street designated as a historic with a historic designation. And a couple years ago Verizon wanted to put on these. They wanted to install wireless panel attempt and Tana's, and that quite a few people in the community fought against that. And they, and Verizon ended up not doing that we were concerned other people with other companies are going to put on those antennas. So we didn't want to disturb a historic item in Longmont. So I'm going to take that on now. It's kind of prompted me to continue that project and get that silo designated. It's a beautiful red silo people that pass it on on highway 66 or golfers on new golf course enjoy it every day. And I, I, I wanted to keep standing forever, not get ever torn down. But there you go. That's a, that's a real focused practical aspiration on the other side, on the other side of this experience. Kathy, come or thank you again for sharing your voice and your vision. This voices and vision of Longmont project. You're welcome.  Okay, thanks to him. Bye bye. Craig Stevens, thank you for lending your voice and your vision to this project. Okay, you know what we're doing here. Let's start just by learning a little bit about you. Well, I get to work from home, which is a real what I found is it's, it's, it's a real luxury. And, and, and I'm used to working from home occasionally, because I, I support a company that has operations worldwide.  So I'm used to working from home occasionally, I do miss going into the office, but, but the office is obviously closed now. So me and my team get to work from home. And so, so that's, that's a good thing. My wife gets to work from home. She works at CU. And they close their offices a couple weeks before my company did that I work for. So we're both, we're both home. And, and the animals are two cats and our dog love us being here all day. And so the dog gets plenty of walks, the cats get plenty of attention. We get to think about side and play. So, so that part is good that the only problem is that that's a temporary situation. I just don't know how long that's going to. I don't know how long we're going to be allowed to continue to work from home, but at least for now it's okay. Well in the current crisis that we're living and dealing. What are you doing to get yourself through the current situation. Yeah, I found and I think my wife feels the same way, you know, getting up every day and clocking in and checking in what's going on at work is, is it's a, it's great. And, but other than that. Yeah, I'm a photographer and videographer. So, I've been shooting a lot of video and shooting a lot of pictures and I do that anytime I have free time. I go out and take pictures and and that keeps me very busy so I always have some project in the queue that I'm working on. And, and I found that that's I mean I love doing that. But it's also it's also really important just to keep focused on certain projects and and and and not only you know working on the projects but getting them done just finishing them.  And so it's very short term.  You probably have more experience and more resources for staying connected but in this era of social distancing and physical isolation. What do you do and then how do you stay connected to friends and family. Well you know it's it's funny. That aspect of of of our life really hasn't changed very much for my wife and I, I mean, my daughter lives in Iceland. And that's where our grandchildren are. And so we're used to FaceTiming with my daughter and the grandchildren. And so that that really hasn't changed very much. My son is in the Marine Corps now. He just finished Marine Corps boot camp on April 3 last Friday. And now he's heading to Camp Pendleton to go through infantry, infantry training school. And so for me personally, you know, my kids are okay. Right. And my daughter works at an elderly care facility in Iceland. And so she's needed more than ever. Right. So, so professionally and personally, you know, she's life life hasn't changed very much for her. And the grandkids are okay. You know, my son is in the hands of the United States military, the Department of Defense and but I get to once once he heads to Henderson field, he'll have some more privileges. And I just sent him his cell phone. So we'll be able to stay in touch with him. You know, my stepmothers in Missouri, St. Louis, my brother and sister in law are in Connecticut, my older brothers in San Francisco. You know, so we're used to that anyway. So, so that part of our life hasn't changed very much, you know, and, but it's it's more vital now.  And, you know, that's one aspect that that's that's changed is we can't go visit her as much, you know, we're used to going out to dinner with her and things like that and going to visit. So we can't do that.  So, so that aspect hasn't changed that.   And so so that's changed a lot. But, you know, through using tools like we're using today like zoom, and all that, you know, we can stay connected. But I do sort of, I do really miss, you know, just, you know, hanging out with people. And I'm sure everyone misses that.  You know, and my I have a dog.  And so we're used to seeing our neighbors and their dogs. But because of we have to keep our distance now and my dog doesn't understand it at all. She hates that. And she really can't stand it. And I think all the other dogs can't stand it either. It's like, what's wrong. This is not normal.   Yeah, next week is a year away. I, you know, who knows what's going on next week. Hard to make plans, but I'm going to ask you a long term question, question about the long term. And that is, assuming life will be different on the other side of this crisis, who knows what the new normal will be. What would you like to see what's your preferred future. Well, you know, see an experience on the other side.  Because if you think about it, like, in January, our world view was a certain way, right. And it's not the same. And, you know, right now, I think I'm pretty much assured that I've got a job for three months. Three months from now is what June, I mean July, August. After that, I have absolutely no idea. And so, so the new normal is I have absolutely no idea what the new normal is, and it's clear that things can't go back to the way they were. Right. Because if you think about, or the, if you think about economics, we need a new economics, we need a whole new accounting scheme. Right. And that we don't have right now. And so normal is not what the way it was in January or December. That can't be the way it is. You know, after the summer or in the fall, you know, I mean, so the new normal is not that at all. It's something totally different.  And the train is eventually going to, it's going to go to a bridge that's collapsed and it's going to go drive off the bridge and crash and blow up.  That moment keeps getting pushed back and back and back into the sometime into the future and we just don't know when that crash is going to happen. And so it's such a strange world view that, you know, in the future, we know there's a pending doom, you know, but we just don't know when that's going to happen. And but, you know, the moon still rises, the sun still rises, the sun still sets, the moon still sets, you know, the world keeps turning around and around and around, but everything else is so up in the air. So there is no new normal. We're not going to go back to where it was before. And that's, I think that's a good thing. But it's also a scary thing. It is. Craig Stevens, thank you for contributing to Longmont Voices and Vision. Yeah, I don't know how insightful that was, but it's something.


Hi, hi everyone. Hi for the school. So my name is Diana Martin and I'm here today to talk to you a bit about the importance and challenge of platform product manager.  I think it's a great opportunity to be part of this community and kind of share a little bit something. And some sharing some knowledge also really to to be part of this kind of culture of product discipline and methodology. So really, really a pleasure to to be here. So for for today, and I bring to main topics of agenda. First one, it's really about what is a platform and it's important. And the second part will be more related about what are the challenge that as a platform product manager. We usually found and how to tackle those are actually should I say how to try to tackle those and first things first, and allow me to introduce myself properly. So I'm, I'm working as a lead product manager for Farfetch in the platform solution. So Farfetch is a global platform for luxury that basically connects creators creators and customer. And I've been working in this kind of product area for almost four years. And before I had work in the telco company in the telco industry. So also in the product area. So I guess it has been quite quite a journey in this product management area. So, starting with the with the point that is more interesting and the reason why we are here today. And I guess let's start really for the with the basics and what is a platform and it's important. And probably when we think about the platform, we can have kind of this kind of idea about really a platform that we are usually found in the in the polls or kind of in the sea. And it's something that elevators and allow us to jump. It's also something that probably can allow us to have a broader view of the world, kind of have kind of holistic view of everything. And I think we would be satisfied if someone says this is a platform. I think we would all of course agree. On the other hand, we can also think about something like this. So a train station where we have kind of platform 89. In this case, we are in the area it seems. And we have kind of all the elements that are part of the platform. So we have kind of the foot machine we have the clock, we have kind of the structure and the iron structure. But at the same time, we have kind of two main players. We have kind of us, the people that are waiting for the train and that are kind of waiting for something to happen and to take action to, in this case, to go to somewhere. And we have kind of the train that will basically drive us to somewhere. And it's basically kind of the way of transportation that we are waiting. So the other part when we think about platform that probably it's something that comes always to mind when when we are thinking about platform in a more tech perspective and are these kind of icons. And first thing when I look to these icons, it's that there are clearly some patterns in terms of design, in terms of colors, in terms of how these are kind of adapt to a modern customer. But of course I think here we can extrapolate that there are a lot of platforms. There are some exchange platforms of course that are very related with communication or with kind of content platforms. And then we have kind of the maker platforms where we can think about kind of some content platforms as due to the or the Instagram, but we can also think about even open sources platforms as for example the Android. So how can we connect dots from jumping into the first platform that we're really elevating ourselves into kind of a normal platform that is part of our daily lives when we go to work. And how can we connect with this kind of platform world that is everywhere that probably when we look into our phone we have three, four platforms probably in the main screen. And at the same time in the news, we can see any kind of update without having the world platform attached. So really trying to connect the dots in between this and we can say that really that a platform is kind of a business model that really creates this value by facilitating the change between two or more interdependent groups. And usually these groups are the consumers and obviously the producers. So when we're talking about the train, we were saying that people are waiting for the train. So we have kind of the consumer that is the one that is waiting for that service that the train will have. And we have kind of the producer that is the train that will drive us somewhere. And if we go very quickly to kind of the Facebook or kind of the YouTube example, we can take as example that obviously in the YouTube we have kind of the videos producers and the content creators for those videos. And at the same time we have us that are kind of consuming and hearing that music. So we can say obviously that a platform is kind of when the economic value of every body that uses it kind of exceeds the value of that company that created it. And that's a platform. And I'm really quoting Bill Gates here, but I guess it represents this kind of change that really is more than the sum of the parts. And that's quite kind of mind blowing when I think about what this represents in terms of change. And this is really a big picture change because if in the past we were thinking and even today of course there are still a lot of business models that really are kind of using this traditional value chain where kind of each value creation is very linear. And in one way what we see in a platform ecosystem is that the value is creating two ways and really continues along the way. So there are some bits here and I will touch those also a little bit in the second part that we need to see really as kind of the main factors that empower the value of the platform. And the main one will be really connected with this network effect. So as we were saying, there are always kind of at least just use their sites that create this content and value for each other and for the platform as an ecosystem. And at the same time, there's kind of this world, this world, the scalability that will allow us to jump from kind of the basic and then allow us to jump into a new model very quickly. And this will be really the key of any platform because it will kind of create and allow this is this is a symmetrical grow in a sense that this platform ecosystem will kind of create complementary markets and kind of another chance of development that may also allow to develop sideline opportunities. And the last part is of course, how there is this chance to have this horizontal communication and collective intelligence since we will have a lot of effortless interaction and analysis that will come across the dots. And that will basically will create this kind of new business and consumer expectation. So, of course, this sounds great. This sounds really something huge. And it's really a pleasure, of course, as a platform product manager to be part of this ecosystem, but of course, this also brings a lot of challenge and also brings a little bit of additional kind of responsibility to have things together and to build our products. So, what I try to bring here, it's a little bit, what are the most common challenge that we have as a platform product PMs, and really have to try to tackle them. And to be very honest, it's really a try. And it's a view on some tips to kind of overcome some of this challenge, but I guess this needs of course to be seen in terms of context and in terms of an ecosystem that we are working with. So, the first kind of tip and challenge that I bring here is the challenge that in our job, we really need to understand the big picture and aim for an holistic view. And if we, if we look at the end quote team directly, John Maeda in the book from loss of complexity, one of the laws that he mentioned is really that knowledge makes everything simple. So, of course, this is really easy to say. But as a, as a platform product manager, we really should seek for that knowledge. And the first things first, right, so let's try always to understand the basics. From the basics here about the informal organization, how things work, how things working formally, how people relate, how, how, how things influence each other, and until the basics about the platform architecture. And it's it's true that we work in a product area, and we don't need of course to be tech experts or architecture expert. It's what we need to understand the basics of how things relate and how things influence, because it will certainly help also in the other conversation. And I guess also very related with this kind of point that knowledge makes everything simpler.  I guess if there's one thing that I learned in the last year, it's really that doing smart question, it's actually very hard. It's almost an hour. So we really should try to improve it and keep asking questions and keeping better in asking questions, because probably the questions that we are having are the questions that most of the people also have. So there's two ways probably they are doing the questions because they're in the same position as you, or they are doing the questions because they are thinking how to formulate those. So really, there's there's a chance to learn from it. The second note here, it's, of course, we need to understand that we need to ask questions, but at the same time, we need to listen to listen and we listen, we need to listen everyone kind of wisely and connecting the dots. And someone told me some years ago that one of the kind of main positive points that we can find in the product manager is really kind of the art of listening. And I guess this is really true because we kind of understand the context where we are and how can we act as well on kind of what the others are saying and really saying I guess that's kind of the true meaning of it. And the third part. It's really kind of I'd say more personal team, but really create a group of people that you can trust, learn and rely on them. So probably in our daily lives and in our professional lives, we will be working in a lot of projects, we will work in a lot of different teams. And of course, people can go and kind of projects and point of views are part of decisions that you will be kind of part of that organization. But if you have a group of people who can trust, learn and rely on, at the end of the day, you can always kind of come to that group and really kind of connect the dots and understand something works together and really make those relations. Out of the projects, out of kind of the groups that you work hard. And that's a thing that I consider very important to have kind of this notion of a big picture. The second point. It's the challenge about stakeholders. So this one is a very known one as a platform product manager probably we will be managing a lot of kind of different stakeholders at the same time. And we will be managing different kind of stakeholders from customer and really the business and to other product managers to other obviously areas of the company from design tech architecture. So, in this point, I said that it's very important to allow everyone to work collaboratively. And so, and it's also part of making them part of the problem. So, attending meetings, schedule type sessions, it's all part of that sinking process. And it's also a way to to allow people to be part of the equation and not to be so concerned about really managing that. The other part is really about transparency and the definition of ways of working. Of course, that when dealing with stakeholders, there's probably a kind of a line in between what we can say or we can say or how to say it. But it's very important also to bring this layer of transparency to the relationship and allow kind of what is the contract and the way of work. That people will kind of want to deal. And we have here a image of Dr. Strangelo. And I'd say it's, we should always be part of the same table, right? We always want kind of to choose a direction. And let's bring those people into the same table and have that decision and that direction together. The third point is the challenge about some lonely times. So some platform challenge starts sometimes as a lonely idea. And it will be up to us kind of to spread those socialize and really bring people to the discussion. So, here we have kind of only one is a wonder if we have two together, there are always going somewhere. And I think this is really kind of the motto that we can bring to the company or to the project that we are working. Kind of bring that idea and really talk about that idea, mention it, allow others to build on it, feel for it. So an idea is something that has energy, that has motion, so allows others to feel it. The other part is also allows other to have the context of idea, how that idea came. What is the problem that we are trying to solve? How do you see this evolving the future? So the concept is that obviously the past and future tenses are the ones that give sense to the present. And if we kind of ask this kind of emotion and energy to the others, they will feel the same. So they will be part of that equation and they will want to be part of the change. And in third part, it's more kind of a reflection in terms of allowing time for that sinking process. So it is okay that the act of sinking doesn't directly produce something that we gave to the customers. And here I'm quoting Melissa Perry in the bill trap. And the idea is that this is really the starting point of everything. So the sinking process is something that is really up to the product manager and we should dedicate really time to this. The third point is that while we are of course dedicating time, we are building a future vision and we can try at least fake that we are ignoring time. So the idea really is that as a platform product manager, and I would say really as a product manager working in product discipline, it's up to us also to sink kind of big and allow us to dream about the vision that we want to build. Of course, there will be always a strategy that we are aiming. There's always kind of some direction that we will be following or driving. But it's up to us to kind of build this dream or kind of this thing big about where we want to land. So the best process are really the ones that give us kind of this butterfly in the stomach. And let's keep it alive, I would say. And second part, it's really let's go the part that we can't control. Because as a product manager, we will be always thinking about where we want to land, what is kind of the dream. But then we will always have kind of all the project manager and kind of business and client timelines saying that this needs to happen this time or there was this kind of MVP or this will be divided in three parts that will fall into the roadmap. So they will take eventually, they will eventually take care of the timing scene. So let us kind of have some time to sink and build this future vision at a bigger scale. The five points, it's really about not getting lost in communication. So I guess that even when we were mentioning the point before, of course, that we need to sink big and bring others to kind of our struggle or into our kind of journey. And communication, it's kind of the most important thing. And the idea is that we need to communicate, communicate, communicate well, communicate in the right way. So again, and I've already mentioned this point before, it's really important to give context to everyone. Just remember that kind of topic that for you is the main topic is not someone else's main topic. So please always kind of give that context to anyone and allows them also to give space to absorb kind of the problem and kind of the idea that you are trying to face. The other part, and I guess probably this is the most important in terms of communication, at least from my experience, of course, I'm not a specialist in communication at all. It's really important to understand the main paradigms and ways of working and kind of relate with the other person. So I say that a good communication always or just works if the other really acknowledged the message and kind of creates a relationship and do something when acknowledging that message. Other way, I cannot always say that I'm communicating, but if the other one is not acknowledged, we are kind of having autism conversation, not parallel world conversation, which is not very interesting. So probably some tips that can help on this part, it's really kind of establish a communication contract with kind of customer with our colleagues. And this can be kind of a communication for tech teams or for the customer that use particular kind of terms and really kind of define what is the format that we want to take, what is the level of detail, what are kind of ceremonies of the interaction. And at the end really put together a glossary that works. And this can be internal and external. It can be things as if I'm talking with the tech team, I will mention kind of ceremonies or kind of art facts. But if I'm talking with kind of design teams, I will be probably mentioning kind of design system. So there are kind of languages, parallel languages that happen around us, and it's really important to try to get into those. And even when we are kind of at level of communication, and we are kind of really creating and generating kind of input output, it's really important always to document everything. So I guess sometimes, and this is really a challenge that I think it's very common between us is like what was really the decision that we took the other day and why I guess we've decided something like that was really our understanding. And I think here we have probably two main potential problems. One is that probably the other part in to understand the same as you. So on that part we have kind of a communication problem. And the second part is that if you don't document, you will never get into kind of that communication and communication equation. So really being content to contact with your colleagues, even if it's kind of about minor change, even if it's about minor scope change, even if it's about adding some to the scope, it's really important to have kind of an aggregated view. And also document not only kind of the final version but keep always the old version and kind of the reasons for the decision because probably you will go back to these old versions and really understand the why and what and how. And then again the idea of contract, establish a documentation contract besides communication one. So what are the formats, what is the level of detail and what is kind of the recurrency that you will review that recommendation. The seventh point is I would say kind of a point that we really need to recognize. So I think we've covered that. Of course we need to understand the kind of the end to end view. And then we were saying that we will need to kind of work in the communication piece. We need to have all these parts in terms of documenting things, but there will be a part of the process. Even if you've done all the syncing process right, even if you dedicate the time and really sound very carefully and wisely what you are doing. There will be times where you will have kind of some disruption moments in terms of syncing and in terms of ideas when working with other people because other people also represent of course different backgrounds. And this represents kind of different point of views. And actually looking into this image, the way I'm seeing the other is not the way the other is seeing me. Of course this represents, first, this represents a common place to everyone, but that's really important. So the idea of putting ourselves in our customers shoes, it's important, but that's on our colleagues shoes do. So I guess to understand really the motivation, what most that other team of that person is the innovation that is the driver is kind of more organization and structure commitment and roadmap big achievements. So really try to understand that will help you in understanding also how to manage these backgrounds. And second point, I say it's really the acknowledge that different point of views may represent really contradictory point of views. And that's not bad, actually. And quoting here, Roger Martin from The Possible Mind. And it really says that kind of the idea to hold to conflicting ideas in a constructive tension, which is a nice term, represents an intellectually advantageous evolution and relief that can also help the decision making process. So what we're saying here is that there's a way and in theory there's a way to go. But if we can also kind of collect this kind of conflicting ideas and really make some good of it and really kind of work in this constructive tension, probably we will even go a step further. The eight point is really the acceptance part. So what we're saying is that at some point in our platform product manager life, things will be chaotic and will be chaotic and wind will blow in one way. And we will try to go to the other way, but point is that that's fine. That's fine that everything is chaotic. And we just need to accept chaos and there will always be things that we won't be in control. But again, that's fine. And I guess my last point is that if we accept chaos and that and that's kind of a truly good feeling. And if we do our job well, actually, there is never an end in this product life cycle and in this product life. And here just for out of curiosity, I have this image from this design houses in Chile. And I think it's really represent kind of the work of a platform manager. Because we are really saying that we are building something very prepared for scalability, right? But I'm already saying I know I will be adding something. I know there will be some future for this. I know that I will want to proceed this, but at the same time, it isn't finished, right? So there's always work to do. There's always some progress to come after. There's always something to improve. So I guess that can sometimes be kind of a bitter taste feeling. But I guess this is really kind of the joy of being a platform product manager. It's kind of really the potential of continuing to build things and really evolving the equation. And I think that's basically it what I wanted to share with you. Thank you so much. I guess it was really a pleasure to share kind of part of this challenge. Hope some of these tips make make sense to you and otherwise also feel free to contact me. Also feel free to kind of disagree recent tips kind of share and additional thoughts with you. And I guess again, thank you so much. It was really a pleasure.