This 10th year of Daily Tech News show is made possible by its listeners. That's you, Hector Bones, and you, Tim Ashman, and you, Johnny Hernandez, and everybody, welcome in the brand new folks, Habinov and Nikolai. On this episode of DTNS, Apple blocks Beeper Mini and then Beeper finds a way around it. The fight has begun. Apple will pay artists more to do special, spatial, although it's also special, audio music. And if you want a simple tool to send your own newsletter, Rich Strafilino has got you covered. This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, December 11, 2023 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merrick. From lovely Cleveland, Ohio, I'm Rich Strafilino. And I'm the show's producer, Roger Chang. Welcome back, Rich Strafilino. And just to get this out of the way for some DTNS listeners who've been wondering, where have you been? I've been over at the CESA series doing cybersecurity headlines. It's very new for me doing a five minute podcast largely based around technology news. Yeah. You looked at Daily Tech headlines and you're like, you know, this is just too wide. I need to narrow it down some more.  No, you do a great job over there. And glad to have you back today. Thanks for coming back. I'm excited. Let's start with the quick hits. Members of EU's parliament and the EU council agreed this weekend on new rules to govern AI models. Now, if you're wondering why this hasn't been reported more, it's because the details are pretty scant. Only a press release has been issued so far. Technical details are expected to be published later this week. What we do know is the companies like Google and open AI will need to publish technical documentation comply with copyright law. I mean, didn't they have to anyway? But yeah, there's special provisions on that and provide risk assessment and mitigation of some kind for foundation models. Those are the most advanced models like GPT-4. Facial recognition is also banned under the rules with exemptions carved out for police use in relation to serious crimes. And even the parliament won't take these rules up for a vote until next year. So even though we get some technical details, we're going to be hearing about this next year, when it actually gets voted on by the parliament, then the way the EU works, it'll go from there to the European council. And then it'll go to the various countries to be implemented. It's expected to have an easy go of it, but we won't see this become law until at the earliest 2025. The big win over the weekend, though, was getting everybody on board to assure those votes go smooth. Data AI estimates that TikTok has brought in $10 billion, that's with a B, in consumer spending on its platform. And that makes it the fifth app to reach that amount, and notably, the first non-gaming app to do so. US and Chinese users, for the majority of spending, I don't think too revelatory there, this puts TikTok in the class of games, as the previous statement had suggested. Candy Crush Saga, Honor of Kings, Monster Strike, Clash of Clans, some certain, some proud pay-to-play game company. TikTok will take $1.5 billion of that money and gain a controlling interest in Go2's Tokopedia in order to be able to launch its TikTok shop in Indonesia. That's TikTok's third largest market, big place for e-commerce for them, big deal because Indonesia requires a local company to operate any e-commerce there.  And TikTok said, what if we become Indonesian? What about a bag of cash? One of the EU's most promising AI startups, Mistral AI, just completed its Series A round of funding. And more importantly to us, opened up its developer platform in beta, meaning it's definitely now in open competition with open AI, Google, Anthropic, et cetera. Mistral's model is called Mistral 7B. Unlike its competitors, Mistral 7B is available as a free download under an Apache 2.0 license that requires just attribution when you use it. Otherwise, you can do whatever you want. So in a way, this is more being a competitor with meta or even more open stable diffusion. The developer beta gives you access by API to Mistral 7B, Mistral 8X7B, which has more parameters and is also available under the Apache 2.0 license. And a third model called Mistral Medium, which they say has better performance, that one is only available through the API for now. The first beneficiary of the US Chips Act will be a Bay Systems location in New Hampshire. It will get $35 million before anyone else to quadruple production of chips for F-15 and F-35 fighter jets. And scientists at Northwestern University wanted to test Rodin's response to overhead predators. So rather than hiring owls, they decided to create small VR goggles to simulate overhead threats while they measured mice brain activity. The miniature Rodin Stereo Illumination VR, or immersive, get it, is attached to a mouse treadmill. So it's not the mouse wearing the goggles. The mouse is put on the treadmill, and then their head is inside this little area that makes them see the screens surrounding their field of view while they run. A paper on their findings was published in the journal Neuron. And that is the headlines. Right at the end of Good Day Internet on Friday. So if you're not a patron, you probably didn't hear this.  Apple did not address Beeper by name in its statement, but did announce Saturday that it has taken steps to protect our users by blocking techniques that exploit fake credentials in order to gain access to iMessage. Now, it doesn't fake the credentials to get you your messages. It uses your credentials to get your notifications. So that is probably what Apple is referring to. Beeper built on the work of a high school student to reverse engineer how phone numbers are registered with Apple's messaging service. But the messages only ever went between Apple's servers and your phone. The Beeper mini service did not use cloud servers to do anything but get notifications from the Apple servers. Beeper restored service to its cloud version of the app over the weekend. And then Beeper got the mini service to work again on Monday, but only by signing in with an Apple ID. Originally, when it launched, you just sent a text message to register and you didn't have to have an Apple ID. Now you do, meaning it will be tied to an email address, not a phone number when you get your messages, but it still goes direct from Apple to your phone. It's Beeper mini is still not going through Beeper services. The service will remain free for the time being. They had a seven day free trial. They've suspended that and say, you know what, until we can make sure we get the service to the level we want and that it's not going to get interrupted again, which it probably will. They're not going to charge people for it. This is going to keep going. Apple's probably going to find a way to stop this, and then Beeper's going to try to find a way around it. Who do you think's going to win this battle, Rich? So it's 99% certain that Apple will win this, right? I mean, they have every reason to quote-unquote win this, to secure their users. I'm sure Apple, their sophistry, they would like to tell you about that. The only way I see this is for Beeper to blow themselves up as a company and be like, we're just going to open source this, and hey, Metta, you can do this, and hey, everybody else, you can do the same technique. It's no problem. We're not going to offer this as a paid service. The only way to do it is to get so many people doing it that it becomes standardized in a weird way. But other than that, it has to be... As long as Apple is determined not to make iMessage a cross-platform service, and we've seen no indication that they plan on doing that unless the EU makes them, they're going to be doing RCS. They have said, we have no intention to do iMessage by your mom and iPhone. Tim Cook famously said, I see no indication that they are willing to back down on this, or that quite honestly, the numbers of people that Beeper have aren't enough to make enough of a ground. Well, Apple is well-honed at having some... Especially for people that aren't iPhone customers. These aren't people that they're not making their own customers mad. They're making Android users mad who probably weren't going to buy an iPhone anyway. Yeah. Well, good news. It's open source. It's already open source. You can go to github.com slash Beeper and do this. I do think you're right though. Getting the public backlash against Apple is Beeper's only chance. Apple has the patience and the deep pockets to just continue to play Cat and Mouse and stop Beeper Mini every time it comes around to doing something. They don't lose because the people who use their devices don't care if Beeper Mini works, and the people who are on Android aren't using Apple devices. So they would rather upset them enough that they buy an iPhone than keep them happy happily using Android. So the motivations are there for Apple to wait this out. Beeper's only chance is to get a groundswell, whether it's like you say, getting other services to start interacting with this and putting even more pressure on Apple, or just getting the word out that like, hey, there's more Android users than there are iOS users in the world. Let's make this happen. I think the problem is Beeper is trying to use SMS, right? I mean, iMessage is a replacement for SMS, and most of the world just uses WhatsApp or KakaoTalk or something else. Yeah, and there is no lack of options for now. Meta is doing end-to-end encryption, so there is really no dearth of options out there. Yes, SMS is unsecured. If you're worried about privacy insecurity, you shouldn't be using SMS, but there is an abundance of ways to get around that. Just coming from the iOS version, because I was using Beeper for a couple of months, and just having signal integration break with that, right? Randomly, it would just be like, signal doesn't work for some reason. And then having to go into that, it breaks all of the magic that Beeper promises, because it's amazing to have all your chats in one place, especially stuff like Discord Slack. I absolutely love it. Phenomenal product, except that weird janky thing seemed to happen about once a month, let alone, iMessage, the core most bedrock thing. SMS is insecure, but I also never want it to break. I never want iMessage or SMS to break. You don't want to mess those busy things. Yeah, exactly. To me, yes, there are people that are mad at Apple's closed ecosystem. This is a totally new fight for Apple. They've never had to deal with that before. And so, again, they are used to dealing with that. And the inconvenience of this constantly breaking, to me, it's like Apple, by default, almost wins this. ADM was like this.  The platforms weren't participating in the unifying, so things always broke. Sometimes on purpose, sometimes not. Clearly, in this case, Apple did it on purpose and said, we thought this was insecure. Yes, Beeper did it for a good reason, I guess, but bad people could have done it, and we don't know anything about the company Beeper, so we don't feel comfortable guaranteeing the security, so we're going to block it. It's a pretty solid, righteous playground to stand on. At least it's going to work for a lot of people. Yeah. All right, speaking of Apple, there's a bunch of Apple stuff out there coming out. We've got three of them for you. First story, Apple trying to make its use of Dolby Atmos, aka Spatial Audio, its competitive advantage over Spotify. Spotify doesn't offer Dolby Atmos. They don't offer any kind of spatial audio, so Apple is trying to encourage its use more on its platform as a differentiator. Bloomberg sources say Apple plans to give added waiting to songs that offer a Dolby Atmos version. That would mean royalties. Bloomberg said that royalties would increase for those artists whether listeners play the Atmos version or not. Apparently, all Apple's going to require is just make it available, and then we'll pay you more for whatever of your music they stream. Rich, it seems like a wise idea. It doubles down on Apple's actual advantage over Spotify, which is that they have a hardware ecosystem that already has a lot of this already ready to roll out. If you own recent AirPods, Pros, the Beats versions of those, a lot of those already have spatial audio. A lot of people probably don't necessarily use that feature, but we can double down and say, hey, we have something special that Spotify doesn't have. My question to you, Tom, though, is, do you think this, like, do people care about spatial audio in music? I think it's gotten better. Some of the early spatial audio stuff that was put out was not very good. The engineers were still learning how it worked, and so there were certain, there were some that were great, but there were others who were like, okay, you just kind of put this through a filter, and it sounds weird. So I'm not going to listen to it in spatial audio. It has improved since then, and I think it's going to continue to improve. In fact, that's probably one of the reasons Apple's doing this, right, is the more artists that use this, the better the engineers are going to get at having a standard way of putting this out here. My only thought, though, Rich, is like, at some point, all the engineers of all the major artists are going to be doing this, and then Spotify can just light it up and take advantage and be like, great, put them on our platform too, right? Well, spatial audio is also like a checkbox then at this point, right? If I'm an indie label, or if I'm anyone that has any control, like direct control over that production process, any DAW logic or Ableton or whatever like that has a spatial audio option that's fairly simple. Now, the mix might not be great, but as you said, people don't need to listen to it. They don't need to respond to it. I just need to have this as an option, and then I get that extra waiting, whether that applies to everybody or just the label partners and stuff like that. Now that I'm thinking about it more, it actually almost makes this a non-advantage when Spotify does roll it out, because it'll just be this passive default already all over Apple. Everyone just clicks the checkbox and has this. Their waiting doesn't change relative to everybody else, because why wouldn't you?  Yeah. Responding to a couple of questions in our chat room, Nick with a C says, so make one song and have increased royalties on everything forever. I think the way it works is I put out the song Unforgiven, and then I put out a version of it in Dolby Atmos that's available, and then I get increased royalties on that song. I have to have a Dolby Atmos version of a song for it to work. And then GPig84 is like spatial audio. Is that like surround sound? Yeah. Yeah. It's Dolby Atmos, but it's similar to surround sound, right? Yes. It's supposed to give you the idea of you are listening to a performance, live performance space, and as you turn your head, you hear that, which my big problem with that is people don't want live things that resemble live things in their music. They actually just want the same thing every time, even in a live performance. That's like the history of music performances. They don't want live. They want what they heard on the CD. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, for story number two, tells us that Apple retail store employees have been training for the Vision Pro to be able to offer it in stores. And that training, I'm sorry, I said they have been training. They haven't. They will be training mid-January with the aim to start shipping the Vision Pro end of the month. Gurman says the release will happen at least before March. There's a lot of talk about the need to have fittings to get it fitted to your head, so you get the settings all right. So that's probably what the training was about. But if they're going to have the training in mid-January, that implies that we're going to get this thing in the first couple of months. Gurman says, probably at least before March, if not end of January sometime in February. Apple has only ever said early 2024, but the Bloomberg sources do say that they will launch in the US first with UK and Canada as the potential first two international markets with Asia and Europe to follow soon after that. One reason for the delay in the Vision Pro, if you're wondering like they announced it at WWDC last year, like what the heck, Sony can only make less than half a million displays a year for it according to some sources. So they have been waiting to stockpile them or hoping maybe they can get Sony to increase their yields. That again speaks to the fact that they can only make half a million a year and they're willing to go to market with this, even with the stockpile. They could have been stockpiling this for a year or two for this. The projections on the numbers on this are all, this is going to be a very niche device for the first couple. I'm surprised I was expecting this to be the end of March, I forgot how many days March had, end of March 2024 to meet that early 2024 deadline. I figured they would push it as far as they could. I think that's an encouraging sign of where they see the software at and where they can see what kind of experiences they can give people that they are pushing it forward. I know there's been some reporting on developer woes, but developers are just getting a feel for a brand new platform and that kind of stuff. So I'm hopeful just because I'm interested in this space. I always like to see it go. If that's a sign of confidence, I'm interested to see an interesting new take from a major company. And our third of the Apple stories, Korea's The Elec says Samsung is strengthening its foldable display manufacturing in advance of delivering displays for Apple's first foldable products, which Ming-Chi Kuo and others think is going to come in 2025. Samsung display and LG display are both reportedly working on foldable displays for Apple, including supposedly a 20.25 inch panel. But we're getting more and more indications that Apple will come with a foldable rich if you had to place a bet. What kind of foldable do you think they'll come with? I think they have to go some sort of phone form factor, right? And personally, I think the one that makes the most sense to me is the flip phone, like the tiny phone into the full phone. That to me seems to make the most sense. I don't know. I could also, I mean, it definitely makes sense. They haven't updated the iPad mini in a while. It would make sense to, hey, we have iPad mini to iPhone. I like that form factor better. I'm hoping Apple makes it because I'm more interested in that. I'm going to put my chips on tablet. Okay. I'm going to say they won't want to mess with the phone. The iPhone is iconic. They won't want to bring you a foldable out of the gate. They will eventually do it, but they will start on the iPad. I will give you an iPod touch form factor that folds out into a mini. I have seen more Android people talking about foldable form factors as like a major selling point, more in the last like six months. And it feels like where we were at with big phones for the longest time, Apple resisting and them slowly coming out with that. So that's why I feel like phone solely like solely that form factor. It just feels like a very similar vibe to that admittedly foldable still much smaller than big phones. I guess we're in, I don't know, 2012 or wherever. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like if you don't have to put the cell phone motive, but I guess if you're gonna, you're probably going to offer 5G service in it. So maybe it doesn't save you that much space anyway. But I did my gut tells me tablet first. Not that. And then they'll do a foldable iPhone. They'll make everybody go, why didn't they do a foldable iPhone yet? So that everybody gets a 2026. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Well, what do you think? What should we talk about on this show? You can let us know. Did you know we have a subreddit? You can go to our subreddit and vote on titles or not titles, vote on stories that other people have submitted and even submit some of your own. Get on over there to dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. At the end of November, MailChimp announced that it's closing Tiny Letter. Tiny Letter is a free personal newsletter service, very simple. I am a proud subscriber of Rich's Family Newsletter, which he does on Tiny Letter. But he won't be able to do it on Tiny Letter after February 29th, 2024, which reminds us that 2024 is a new year. Extra day. Yeah, exactly. You got an extra day to use Tiny Letter, but then it's gone. The service is popular among a lot of users, including Rich. And you've spent a great deal of time, Rich, trying to figure out what you're going to do to replace Tiny Letter. First of all, why did you pick Tiny Letter to begin with? So Tiny Letter, I believe it was Justin Robert Young may have suggested using it. I think he was using it for free political newsletter.   There is literally no option to be like, click here to pay money for anything on here. It's no spam. It's not trying to get me to turn it into a marketing platform or anything like that. It's extraordinarily basic. Shocking that they're not going to do it anymore. Yeah. Well, what's shocking is that they never flip the switch and be like, upgrade to Mailchimp standard for $5 a month or whatever like that. That to me is the shocking kind of the beautiful thing about Tiny Letter that will soon die a unnotable death on February 29th. But yes, that was what attracted me to it. It was like absolutely no frills, minimum viable newsletter product was the appeal for me to try it and keep using it. And so when you were looking for a replacement, what are the things that you were using Tiny Letter for in your newsletter that you had to have in whatever you replaced it with? Yeah. So my newsletter was basically, it was like, I don't want to post pictures of my kids on Instagram. Sometimes I think it's weird. So I wanted just like, hey, newsletter, 10 pictures of my kids. Here's what we did this week. You can enjoy it or unsubscribe or just subscribe and be polite and don't open it. I will know, but I won't never mention it to you. So what I needed for is like have image hosting and a very, what I wanted is a very simple editor. Like that's what I'm looking, I was looking for in a replacement, something that I could hand off to somebody. Occasionally I'm on vacation. I might be under the weather, might have some other work to get done on a Sunday or something like that. I need, maybe ask my wife Jackie or somebody else to kind of, hey, could you put it together? Here's the images. And if it's like some weird, kludgy solution or if it's this really like corporate interface where you kind of have to know the ins and outs, I didn't want that. I wanted something that anybody could kind of handle and make it a family project, not necessarily just something that I was doing. So that was my number one thing. The other thing I didn't want to just do another startup kind of thing. I wanted something that had been on the market for a while that I knew wasn't going anywhere. And then I wanted exportability, because that's a big thing. Luckily, Tiny Letter lets you export your email list very easily and the record of sending stuff. It gets weird when you want to back up all of your other stuff. But I wanted to make sure I could get my stuff out if I needed to, not be locked into a proprietary system. All right. So what did you find? So it will, the first thing I actually came to mind, I was like, oh wait, there's like Substack, right? That's the newsletter platform. How does this even work? I've subscribed to all the Substacks. I actually didn't know how it worked from a creator. I assumed it was a paid thing, which is why I hadn't ever tried it before. It's free. They monetize based on taking a portion of subscriptions. But if you don't charge a subscription, you can actually use it. No problem. Free to use. At a pretty simple editor, not too bad. It's had too much that I needed. More than you needed. Yeah. I mean, it has a lot of different tools. Monetization, I've actually thought, is like, hey, if someone wanted to like, we could set it up to be like, give to the college fund, you know, like a dollar or two or something like that. That'd be kind of nice to have. Of course, then I'm taking a fraction of that. So definitely an option. If there was nothing else out there, I could use Substack. No problem. It's very glossy, very shiny, very nice. Kind of on the other end of that, I actually use MicroBlog for a personal blog, Mr. Anthropology.MicroBlog.com. But their newsletter product for that is only like a paid option. And it's not even the base paid option. It's like 10 bucks a month. It's a little pricey, and I'd have to do it as a separate blog. So I was like, but I love the fact that that is very much a bare minimum interface, right? Okay. Right interface, wrong price. Yeah. The other thing was MailChimp, turns out, also owned by Intuit. And I will say this, the stingiest handoff I have ever gotten from two services that are owned by the same company, I expected there to be like, click here, all your newsletters will be in another place. There's no exporting of anything. They hate Tiny Letter that much, that they like didn't even give me like an easy export. And they're like, they'll give you a free month. That's what everybody gets when you try MailChimp. I didn't even get like a discount. Give me an extra 5% MailChimp. Come on. I ended up back at the beginning, where everyone ends up here, WordPress. It turns out, duh, of course, WordPress, newsletter is like the most ridiculously easy newsletter to sign up for. Obviously, I've used newsletter for work and personal projects over the years, excuse me, newsletter. I've used WordPress over the years for a ton of different projects and work and stuff like that. The UI isn't the easiest. It's the block editor. It still lives a little bit of a learning curve there, but I was like, WordPress, I'm going anywhere. I have all sorts of plugins and stuff like that. If I want to pay for it, there's a huge, extensible ecosystem out there. So, if I want to do weird automations and, hey, upload from this Dropbox folder and automatically send it out, and I'll just do a review or something like that. I like the fact that it can change over time, but it can be also drop dead simple, and no one ever got fired for choosing WordPress. No, that's good. I bet a lot of people don't realize that WordPress, in addition to the blogging tools, offers a newsletter tool as well as part of your WordPress subscription. I didn't notice you do it, and you can get it on the free tier. All of these, like, Substack is unlimited subscribers, but when you're looking at MailChimp or WordPress, all of them are free up to either a subscriber or a monthly send count. I think MailChimp is 1,000 cents a month. I don't come close to hitting that, so don't worry about that. WordPress is 500,000 or 1,000 subscribers on the free tier, too. Also, honorable mention to Beehive, it's more of a marketing tool. That's the problem with a lot of newsletter services. They're all like, you can send all your e-commerce marketing. I will say, though, of all the ones, I tried a bunch of these just to see what was out there. This is the one that had the most functional free tier and felt like it would be the least spammy to people out there. Just a very basic e-commerce focused one that still could be usable for what I was looking for. Well, thank you, Rich. We'll have linked all of those in our show notes at DailyTechNewShow.com, of course. Let's check in with Chris Christensen, who shares a hiking app that won Apple's 2023 App Store Awards for iPhone app of the year. A hiking app. This is Chris Christensen from Amateur Traveler with another Tech in Travel Minute. This is a resource that I've mentioned before, and it's the All Trails app. I want to bring it up again because they just won Apple's 2023 best iPhone app of the year. That's unusual when that is going to an established app that's been around for a long time. The All Trails app, which helps you find great trails wherever you happen to be, has also added national park guides and trail previews, improved on-trail navigation, weather conditions, local community feeds, and other things. So it's worth looking again if you haven't looked at it recently, All Trails app, and this is Chris Christensen from Amateur Traveler. Thank you, Chris. All right. Well, thank you also, Rich Strafilino, for being with us as well. If you want to follow what Rich is doing, you should do the following things. Rich, where should they go? You can go to CISOseries.com and you can find cybersecurity headlines. We publish that five days a week, me, Steve, and Sean. 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Tarzan of the Apes. From out the pages of Edgar Wright's Burl's immortal book, we recall the strange history of Tarzan. Tarzan, the mighty hunter. Tarzan, the white god of a dark continent. Tarzan of the Apes. You're mad, John. You're mad. There's only one way for you to save your skin now, and that is for you to let me resume command. Throw yourself on the mercy of the court when we return.  I take command when anything happens to the captain. Isn't that right? When anything happens to the captain? Yes, it will. Well, get down to it, John. Get down to it. What do you want? What do you think, Professor Porter? I really wouldn't know, Mr. Yon. I have never made a study of shipwreck. No, but you've made a study of old maps. Where is it? Unfortunately, I don't know what you're talking about. Show that. Where is it? If you will tell me what you are looking for, then perhaps I might not prove so obtuse. Listen, you old fool, I'm talking about that chart, the one on which the traitors indicated. Break it out. Where is it? Mr. Yon, do you mind if I open this port and let him come here? Vango, open that port for the lady. Oh, never mind. I'll do it. Vango, get that lover over the floor and stow him on the boat. Oh, yeah. Mr. Clayton seems to be taking quite a map. He isn't dead. No, he's all right. Well, Yon, what's your procedure? Porter, where's that chart? Really, I... You don't know, huh? I haven't a slightest conception of what you're talking about. There's memory, eh? Well, there's a cure for that. An old Chinese cure. Vango, get the professor below. We'll try the water cure for his memory. Why, I said, come on here, Governor. Unhand me. Come on out for your beating. Now, come on here. Help me. Don't! There, Yon. You wouldn't resort to torture. No. Well, listen, Tracy, I'm not committing mutiny to be stopped by that old boat. Yes, I'll torture him. And if he doesn't come through then, there's the woman there. I want that chart, and I'm going to have it.  I threw the chart out the porch when I opened it just now. Oh, dear, you didn't. Why, why, that chart might have opened a new visitor of history. I'm sorry, Father, but... Oh, you threw it out of the porch, did you? Well, young lady, I think you're lying. And for your sake, you'd better be. I'm going to search your state room. And if I don't find it, you and Fang will keep watch here. Excuse me, I would suggest, Yon, that you drop anchor. You're coming in pretty close. The Postal Curve is very gradual on the African West Coast. I'll run the boat, Tracy. I see you will. I'll go around. And another thing, if I don't find that chart in your state room, I'm going to give you exactly a half an hour to produce it for her. And then, your daughter will wish you had. You swine! We have, we have heard a fondly, I think. What would you suggest doing, Captain? Yon doesn't bluffing. The best thing is to give him the chart he's talking about. Because if we don't, Yon will make good his threats. Where is the chart, my dear? Be careful that these men don't go over here. I told the truth, Father.  You mean the chart is gone? Yes. Will it make any difference? Any difference? All the difference in the world. You'll never get Yon to believe that you threw it out that port. You'll think you're trying to keep it from him. You'll try to make your tell by every way his devilish mind can think of. Jane, you shouldn't have done that. There's no way to get it back now. There might be. How? Do you know that small, deep, green bottle that contained poison, Captain? The one you told me to take out of your drawer? Yes. Well, I poured the contents of that out. I rolled the chart up and put it in the bottle before I threw it out the port. It might have washed ashore. It has a good chance of it. The curd and the coal swings up against the beach. Good, good. The loss of that chart would seriously affect the opportunity of finding vast treasure. The loss of that chart means more than that, Professor Porter. It won't mean the loss of all our lives. We've got to find that chart. We have to find it, that's all. And if we don't? It will be unfortunate that Miss Porter emptied the contents of that bottle. Meanwhile, Yon, the mutinous first mate, has searched every inch of the passenger's cabin, ripping open mattresses, scattering the contents of their luggage. But to no avail. He cannot find the chart. Yon has risked much to get the chart. He leaves the wreckage of the last cabin. He will have that chart. He'll resort to the terrible torture used many years ago on the China seas, the water cure, where the victim has water forced down his clothes until his eyes protrude and his stomach distends, until the intense pressure inside his body versus his heart. Anything to get that chart. Gaining the deck, Yon notices that the boat is well into the harbor. He orders the anchor to drop in the engine's cut. Then, with a fiendish dreadful glint of purpose, making his eyes inhumanly cruel, he makes for the salon. He rips open the door. Hangle, go below, bring form in topside, with buckets and lots of water. See here, Yon. You are making a mistake. That chart did go out the port. I don't believe it. They're all lying. But when I get through with you, you'll be begging to tell the truth. Begging!  We know what you're planning to do. Listen. His porter threw that chart out the port. Before she did, she put it in a jade-green bottle. The current in this cove will wash that bottle up on the beach. Let me and one of your men go ashore on the port to find it's our only chance at saving our skins. Yon, convinced that Captain Placey is telling the truth, finally agrees that the captain shall go ashore with two of his men to look for the bottle on the beach. But before Captain Placey leaves, Yon takes the two men who are to accompany him outside the cabin and talks to them. Giggs, you and Fangle go ashore with Placey. He's looking for a jade-green bottle that's wash the shore. Aye, aye, dear. And when you come back, come back alone. Understand? Aye, aye, stand, sir. We'll stick down, Blighter. Fangle's a-eachin' to carve these in initials and somebody's back. All right.  Couching high up in a tree hidden from view, Tarzan watches as a small boat bearing three men pulls to shore. The ape man for the first time is seeing beings of his own time. His first impulses would drop down the tree, run down to the beach to greet them, but the shyness of a wild thing keeps him motionless, staring from his retreat.  In the bow sits Captain Placey, his weather-beaten face amassed. Tarzan watches the men beach the boat and start walking slowly down the shore looking for something. Tarzan follows them, swinging slowly, silently from branch to branch, in the wooded fringe which separates the jungle from the shore. Studying the first of his fellow men that he has ever seen, Tarzan takes a liking to the captain. The other two, he despises.  Tarzan's mind is in a chaos of curiosity. What are they looking? Then he sees the tall man reach down with a cry and pick up something green from the beach. The two others snatch it from his hand. They make sure Tarzan freezes. There will be a fight, two against one. Tarzan will go to the aid of the tall man. But if he's surprised, the tall man merely shrugs and turns about to return to the boat. Is he afraid, Tarzan wonders? They retrace their steps. The tall man is still ahead, followed by the copper man and the wheezing one. Tarzan follows them.  The copper man slowly draws a long night from his waist. He stoops, then rushes up behind the tall man, tells to warn him, Tracy turns at the vehicle cry. The Chinaman's knife is descending on him. Tracy's fist shoots out. It lands on the oriental jaw. The knife descends, sketching his arm. But the blow has then fangled back so that the cruel blade is not plunged into his body. For a second, all three stand motionless. Then Gates dives at Tracy's legs. Captain Gates pulling them out. Gates groans, but touches the captain's legs. He goes down. Fangle jumps on the captain, patting both knees and his chest. Rages his knife. Tied, plunged into Grace's heart. Tarzan drops him a tree. Stashes down the beach toward the fighting men. The knife flashes downward.


Bird on my Head by Russell Gins, illustrated by Tim Beaumont. Yaaan!  When I walk out the door, it is so good to know I have a friend with me wherever I go. Good morning! And howdy! are quite often said when a guy walks around with a bird on his head. I like peanut butter and jelly on bread, but they taste so much better with a bird on my head.  Once I was invited to go to a dance, I put on a hat and my very best pants. Hold on! someone shouted, his face turning red.  Take your hat off inside, the polite thing to do. Then come join our party. We've brought our friends too. It's a beautiful life when your friends are with you.


We're at the DEF CON 30 cloud of village, where there's a CTF going on, there's constant talks going on right now, and there's so much to learn about cloud security. Now can you tell me a little bit about the village, what really what you're doing here? Sure, yeah. So right now today we've got two main aspects of it. We've got the presenters in the presentation, so all these great talks on AWS, GCP and Azure based security for the most part. Now we have a whole CTF section as well, where folks can actually sit down and work as teams, or they can actually have assistance and try and hit the leaderboards up there. You can maybe, you might be able to get a quick look at that.  We're packed though. There's so many people who are interested in it.  It's real hot. But we have so many individuals that are coming and speaking today from nine, 10 in the morning all the way to 5 p.m. with workshops, the CTF. It's been a fun time so far. Yeah, it's amazing to me that like, every one of these villages, there's so much content going on. You get lost in the content the entire weekend in not even, in that waste or con. There's so much information to learn. It's not just the cloud village too, right? It's all these villages. You've got so much to do if you're here at Tech. No, one of the things I noticed at the CTF is it is cloud based. Now we all joke, oh, cloud's just really someone else's computer. But within the CTF, what makes it different from the other CTFs happening around con? Well, so the other CTFs, I mean, so to clarify, there are flags that you don't need to get. So it's very much in the same vein as the CTF that you expect elsewhere. But it's going to leverage cloud-based vulnerabilities. So it might be things like open commissions that exist for, you know, S3 buckets of storage, or it might be like insecure configurations you might need to go and leverage them. So it's very cloud-specific where I think you might look at maybe a more traditional DEF CON CTF. There's probably a lot of like binary hacking, you know, and things like getting around obfuscation and all that sort of stuff. You might not necessarily see that in the future. Okay. Well, with that, if anyone wants to learn more about it, I'm guessing some of this content, if someone wants to learn more about the cloud village and the talks going on, where can they go? Is this information available online? Yep, go to cloud-village.org and you can find all the information that you need there, CTFs also available there. That's great. You're about to let a speaker know that they have to get off the stage. Again, these things have to be backed back. Thanks for sharing about the cloud village. Thanks for just running it and running this really great village. Can you tell us a little bit about the other runners of this village? Just again, to put something together as big, you need a lot of people. Honestly, there's too many people to mention. I'm really thankful for everyone who came together and helped, but I think, you know, the most important folks are probably Jayesh, who's run the cloud village since 2019. He's worked really hard to make sure that this has worked as well as it has. And then there's Craig, who's worked on the CTF and all of the other folks that are on the CTF, speaker ops, social media, everything. I'm very appreciative of that. Yeah. Thanks for watching it. As always, hack on.


Great, we're here today to talk about a new project called the LTSP Moocow. It was specifically a LTSP Moocow study. I'll start off by kind of explaining the differences between the Moocow and more traditional LTSP implementations. I believe the current release of LTSP is 4.2. And the main fundamental difference between a pile that we're working on and how that works is the current LTSP implementations are essentially their own Linux distribution. It happens to reside on a file server served over in a press. All the binaries are compiled specifically for LTSP. All the packages are specifically designed for LTSP. What we've been working on is essentially building a similar environment using standard Debian packages. This has the huge advantage of being able to use Debian security update system. Any package available for Debian is less available for the LTSP Moocow implementation. And it gives you a lot more flexibility. And we're reusing less code. We're wasting less code. The Debian Edu project is using the LTSP Moocow implementation because before the packages for the old style LTSP took up something like 15 megabytes, I think, whereas this can reuse almost all of the codes from the installer CD so that the CD, it's just a less than a megabyte of code that they have to add because it's reusing most of the packages. So that's the fundamental core difference. The LTSP Moocow project was initiated by Matt Zimmerman, I believe, first implemented in Ubuntu, and I put a write-ins in and myself worked on making it available and functional with Debian. So maybe you'd like to explain the current status of the packages in Debian? Well, after Ubuntu did the first version, we started to see a lot of problems on it because we had a lot of features that were used by Moocow's users and we started to make a group to work on together with all the problems in Debian. After some time we didn't really work with them to try and have them work and now we have our solution which is disabled and works very well. But the problem is that when it started and they called it, they did it for different reasons and they see it clearly. So all of it was part of the code for Ubuntu. And this is very, very bad for Debian and how other metal that can meet the use of this computer. So I and the other people of the team started to search for alternatives. So I made a meeting at that camp before they called here and we started to read all the autospeed from the page. I will show how was the code for it all, I knew what it really had, it was not in full screen. This is for Ubuntu stable code that will be the schedule for the client. And as you can see here, it's simple, it's very simple because in this bootshare script it runs a lot of things in order and a lot of things inside. And the problem is it's very, very difficult to extend it. The problem is very, very long and half is not important for Ubuntu. As you can see here, they use this flash, this is Ubuntu. And then we try to think another design for it. Well, this same script now on the version that we are working on is this. We have a player name sitting now. So the code with all the player name functions for Ubuntu and I don't know if you can see the text in the lines because of all the system. So the boot client is completely just this code. Because of all the things that we made last week. It's very easy for us now, we can extend it. Well, it's a lot of time for us to think about how it works for Ubuntu. We need to discuss the problems, what features we have now and what we can do. Basically, we refactored the code and split it up into smaller pieces. That makes it much easier to have an Ubuntu specific section and a Debian specific section. Even though the majority of the code is actually identical. So we've basically re-implemented the features that we had in the old version. It essentially appears to be working, but surely there's bugs. We'll hopefully have an upload into Debian sooner than later. We really want to try and make a plea to the Ubuntu developers to help adopt this new way of working. Because otherwise we've got two different code bases, it'll be harder to share code. The other thing that we want to do now is that the code has all the features that we can provide for that money. If you often see it here, this is how the code is using the design. We'll have a version of the script that I wrote in order. Each one has some more books that I will show. The parser, I'll upload the evidence. And then each proving can manage all kind of stuff that it can need to deal with. Which one do you think you'll use? So now this is one clue. This code has an object out there to be. That you can use when building the scene. We'll just look back at it for installation. So is there a SQL to extend Autosphere right now? We can see all the things here. For example, before we had all, I think. And for distribution inclusive support, have put them. And now we have one more code that's very simple. It's very, very simple to write. Because we try to keep it flexible as possible. Also, very, very, very simple tools. Anyone who needs to change the way that Autosphere works, do it. This is the, for example, the Canon Detection code. I think it is the most complicated thing that we have now. And it's too simple. Yeah, and this would probably be even simpler if we didn't want to support Sergeant as well. But we'd like to try and keep it back for at least some of the people. So that adds a certain amount of complexity. Yeah. Right. To try to work with someone together. What we did is a code that's coming to any gather. And here we have a lot of code and a lot of difference on the word. The word or any other language. We have the things on form directly. These plugins are included. How is the thing on them? The things that are formed for a given and given basic distributions. We put inside a given directly. So how? And one of that was wrote for a given. And we put two on the other side. There's one thing for the models that they have home with us. And it's basically our model. There are a few that are different. Two models are different right now. The basic configuration where they set up the defaults for attackers and others. And the kernel selection that is different. So we reduce the code multiplication. We make it simple for any member of the building to be able to use it. And also we now have a great right to make it available. It's one of the things that I work on right now. And we put all the features like help.js.ps. And all the things that we start with home. TSPPS is support for local devices. Such as the USB stick or the CD ground. How do you do that? How do you do that? Does anybody have any questions or do you want to get involved? I don't know if you have a documentation about each step in the sequence of building. I think you can do it. I think you couldn't understand what you're doing. Yes. Right now the process is very simple. But it takes a long time to understand how the whole thing works. Because it's a lot of work pieces of the whole thing that work together. But yes, we should implement it. But before that we were focused on making it work. And now we're starting to make it more simple for all the people working here. How many people in this room are familiar with LTSP? How do you use it? What are your experiences? It's insane to be able to work with LTSP. It's insane to be able to work with LTSP. Yes. And you know what I'm hearing here about the new problem? We are trying to make use of the base of LTSP. And I think it will be possible because it's very flexible. And to work on how many windows we need. And maybe we'll try to make it work for other people in this room. Sorry, we're trying to make it work without having to deal with LTSP. And that will be great. We can have help for them to run out. So one thing that would be really helpful to us is when we upload the new packages. People can test them out and experiment with it. Report bugs. That's always invaluable. Because we run through these tests and stuff like a hundred times. We might do something the same every time that other people will do. It's always invaluable. What do you think of the LTSP of this? My understanding is that the LTSP FS that was released was 4.2. A lot of that code they've actually made into packages for O2. That presumably wouldn't be too much of a network with W. So I think that's definitely a feature that people are really excited about and want to work on. But until we developed this plug-in system we felt like it was hard to code everything into the core of the code. And also we had part of the whole code for the liquid and choosing for the liquid to work in and track the link. But now that I think we're starting to come to an understanding of how we want the overall design and how modular it is, I think it'll be a lot easier to have those features in. And it'll also be really easy for individuals to make a package that adds another feature on. Whereas before that was more or less impossible. So I think that's the really exciting part for me is that it opens the door for people to experiment with new features without forcing us to include it in the main distribution. And then we can incorporate stuff as interesting stuff comes along. And also one of the things that we think we've got a lot of people here, is that what the feature is that we should not be motivated. But if you go to the user, just be right now, please. Because now we already have some support on client, great support on client. But we should... Oh, that's... No, no, this one. Ah, I get it. How are you? Ah. Team development. Basically, we've set up a wiki page for this development. I'll show it to you. And this is where this page probably needs some updating. But it's kind of one of the points for which we coordinate a lot. We've tried to have links to all the information we need to know to try and experiment with LTSP WCAG. We have mailing lists, ALIA, mostly for development purposes. But we're using VZR for the revision control system, which is really flexible. It allows us to maintain many separate branches in each of the American patches. As long as a decent version is available. Thankfully this morning, I noticed the new version of VZR was uploaded to Debian. And that makes me very happy because it's been really frustrating. But anyway, so there are all of our... That's not even all of our branches. That's only a small portion of them. So we can work on many different features or aspects of it and then we're able to change it between. So... And now to do this is... We still haven't touched on it. We definitely need the update. But we use L for the project and we have a mailing list called that will be used to coordinate the project. And if anyone seems to be active for trying this, we'll be very, very, very useful. Yeah. And even just having people to test new code is really helpful for that. Any more questions? You already have a feedback from the people. We've had a little bit of feedback. One of their concerns is that by splitting everything up into small pieces it does become a little overwhelming to get an understanding of the whole picture. Which I agree with. It's definitely a little harder. But I think as we try to integrate more features and more functionality it's going to be essential. Especially if somebody wants to come out of their door, distribution, or SUSE or whatever. It's basically... The way it was done they would have to reinvent everything from scratch because we're trying to make it more so that we can increase the capability to share code between different distributions. Even though there might not be a lot of code sharing, but it's still, I think, always better to try and be flexible. I'm just going to hold on more to say it. I just want to give you the nitty gritty details. Thank you. I'll give you a spin on the cherry of cake. Thank you.


If you're living in an urban area but you have the heart of a farmer, the microgreen farming is just the business opportunity that you should be looking at. Now microgreens are your very small vegetable greens which are about 3-5 inches of height and they are extremely good when it comes to the nutrients that human body needs. Today microgreens are becoming extremely popular as a food particularly for vegans, people who want to eat organic food and people who want a good nourishing, healthy vegetarian diet. It is commonly used by chefs, restaurants, 5-star hotels and even your retail shops are selling microgreens today. So microgreen farm can virtually be started as a business by anyone. It can be started in the backyard of your house, in a spare room, in the garage, in the basement, anywhere. Just probably you can start it as small as a 100 square feet area to start your microgreen business. Or alternatively you can probably do a commercial microgreen venture in which you can actually have about a 400 kg produce coming out of a 1000 square feet area. Great business opportunity depending upon your ambition and size of business you want to build under the microgreen venture. Now the thing to do about microgreens is that if you are small on area then you need to practice an urban vertical farming technique in which the plants or microgreens are grown one on top of the other. A small microgreen venture can be started in as small as a few thousand rupees. The virtual cost that you would require is about growing trays that would cost you about 200 rupees. Organic seeds which will be about rupees 500 for 2-3 packs, fluorescent lights, 502 rupees 1000, potting soil again about 250 rupees per kg. A commercial microgreen farm which is about 1000 square feet area will require an investment of approximately 14-15 lakh rupees. And the produce that you can expect coming out from this area will be about 400 kgs a month. Now the approximate MRP for this could be about 2 lakh rupees that you can make. So a broad break up of commercial microgreen farms for about 1000 square feet looks like this. That a greenhouse ventilation cost will include which will include solar heating, large ventilation and fans will be around 7-8 lakh rupees. Your packaging and refrigeration cost will be around another 3 lakh rupees. And a 6 month approach cost with your human and manpower plus your other electricity bills and other sunbrick expenses will come down to about another 3 lakh rupees. Commercial microgreen produce is typically sold to 5-star hotels. It is to be influenced by chefs who can then use it in salads and lots of other greens that are served to the customers in hotel restaurants or within standalone restaurants today. Also people are getting conscious about what they eat and therefore retaining of microgreens is becoming a big opportunity. Now you can either start a B2B venture of microgreen farming wherein you can sell to others who are with you can sell directly to hotels or you can sell directly to restaurants. But also if you are more interested in retail then you can open small retail units. A typical retailing price of a microgreen is about rupees 200 for a pouch of 25-30 grams of produce. So given this model it looks like a great opportunity in the coming times as more and more people go on to eating microgreens in the future. It is certainly an abundant opportunity and its future is really golden. So if you want to know more about microgreen business you can log on to www.entrepreneur.com.


Well, now I'll take you back to that story about the late gospel singer Usinachi Unwajiku, who was killed by her husband, who died as a result of injuries which she got from beatings from her husband. That incident has generated intense interest and questions about the theology surrounding marriage, because she was said to have repeatedly refused to leave that toxic marriage, believing that it is a sin against her Christian faith. Well, we have been joined by Pastor Fermi Fasher, resident pastor KICC Lagos. Pastor Fermi, good evening to you. Good evening, you know. Well, you've written two books on marriage, one married but single, and the second one get marriage right. This death of this gospel artist has raised questions surrounding the theology of marriage. Tell us, what does the Bible say about divorce? The Bible is very, very clear about divorce. In the book of Deuteronomy it was addressed, where the Bible made it clear that if for whatever reason you are unpleased with the person that you have married, you are free to let the person go. It's so clear. Jesus himself also alluded to this. He did say, in Matthew chapter 19, he did say that divorce was allowed through Moses, so that people won't end up killing themselves. And Jesus even went further to even give a condition to say, look, if the divorce is based on sexual immorality, this is the condition of remarriage. Jesus spoke about remarriage. So if we will speak about remarriage, then Jesus obviously approves divorce. Now don't get me wrong. Bible is clear that God hates divorce. Even before Jesus began to speak about divorce or separation, he spoke about reconciliation. He spoke about forgiveness in Matthew chapter 18. So Bible is clear. Divorce is permitted even though it is not the first option as far as God is concerned, but however it is permitted. Now this, a lot of people out there may just raise their eyebrows based to the thing I want to say right now. Divorce can happen in a marriage. When and how should it happen? Without anything. And it's not seen. When and how should it happen? It can happen if you're unpleased with the relationship. If you are unpleased with the relationship, you can. You can. This is only chapter 21 verse 14 specifically. It says it shall be, if you are not pleased with her, then you shall let her go whenever she wishes. If you are not pleased with her. Why is it that there is so much fear among some Christians that getting divorced will put them in God's bad book, that it could send them to hell? Which is a major reason why someone like Osinachi refused to leave her marriage because she says it is a sin against her faith. And many women, I can tell you that for sure, think so as well. Why did they think so? For a long time, I thought so as well because that's what was preached behind the pulpit for a long time. But as I began to teach and study and teach on marriage, I found out that it wasn't exactly like that. Yes, God does not, God hates divorce. That's the way Babu puts it. God hates divorce. But however, because of the stubbornness of the heart of man, divorce was allowed. And we need to teach what the Bible says, not what we think. We need to go into the Bible. Jesus addressed the issue of remarriage. He wouldn't talk about remarriage if there is no allowance for divorce. It's clear. So there are conditions. And listen, listen, you don't have to have a reason. You don't have to have a reason. You don't have to have a reason that is acceptable to anyone. You don't have to. You don't have to. That's the truth of the matter. You don't have to have a reason before you say you're done. And what God is trying to do there is to say, look, you've got to respect your covenant. But for whatever reason, if you say you are out of this, you cannot just go and remarry. Know that when you are out of this, you're going to stay alone, except for these conditions. Number one, if you are coming out because of sexual immorality, number two, because the person died. Number three, if the person puts you out, if the person leaves, those three conditions will allow you to remarry. But you don't actually have divorce is not a sin under God because God allowed it through Moses. Jesus seconded it. And this is the true gospel. However, we are in the ministry of reconciliation. That is why we want to work through couples and work through their differences and see if we can help them. Please don't blame the church. The work of the church is reconciliation. It is for the courthouses to separate and divorce. But for the church is reconciliation. So we, our job is to try and see if there are differences in your relationship. How can we help you work through this using the word of God? Okay. Well, the rate of failed marriages is on the increase globally. Why are so many people getting it wrong in marriage today? Different reasons, different reasons why people are getting marriage wrong. It could be because immature people are getting involved in marriage. Marriage is for a man and a woman. It is not for a boy and the woman. It is not for a girl and a man. It is not for a boy and a boy. And when we talk about a boy or a girl or a man or a woman, we are not talking about age. We are talking about you having understanding of what you're getting into.   You're going to be helping each other. The two of you are going to become one.  Are you ready for that? So the level of maturity, sometimes people think, oh, I've got to marry because people expect me to marry. Something people get into marriage because they say, oh, my biological clock is ticking. Some people get married because of convenience. Some people get married because they need companion. That's a good reason to get married, but it's not all of the reason for you to get married. People get married for wrong reasons. Yeah, you have said that the church should not be blamed. Incidentally, a large chunk of the number of marriages belong to Christians. How does one reconcile the fact that these are people who belong to a fate that says marriage should hold marriage in high esteem? Is it that they are not well prepared by their pastors and leaders in church, or what? It's very difficult for you to be prepared to be fully prepared for marriage because marriage is also a step of faith. Two different people coming together to come and live their lives together. Even though you've known each other, you've dated, you've been going out for years. Living together is different. Putting your finances together, putting your life together is a whole different ballgame. It is after you left the hall that you now basically move under the same roof, that you now begin to know yourself for who you are. That is when the fruit of the spirit needs to now kick in patience, understanding, long suffering, and all these things. And sometimes when you have people who have too much high expectation, they think that marriage is something about a storybook, the red, and they expect this or that, not knowing that they have to work to achieve. They have to understand each other. They all themselves are the responsibility of having to know one another and having to find a way to please one another. Of course, not to beat the other person into submission or into agreement. Thank you so much Pastor Fermi Fasheru. Pastor Fermi Fasheru is a resident pastor of KICC. Time will not permit us to ask more questions about this because this is something that's really in the heart of so many people right now. You've written two books, Married but Single, and Get Married Right. And you said these books are on Amazon right now. Yes, they are on Amazon Married, but Living Single basically speaks about two people that are married but living under the same roof, but they don't share their lives together. They are not more than roommates and basically that is bad for marriage. Get marriage right is actually a book to actually tell you what the mind of God is about marriage. He also speaks about divorce. He speaks about separation and he also speaks about remarriage. Thank you so much for your time Pastor Fermi Fasheru. Please do subscribe to our YouTube channel and don't forget to hit the notification button so you get notified about fresh news updates.