Hello and welcome to everybody many catch-up super chat Indiana Jones dial-of-destiny Yeah, oh wow dial-of-destiny I like this movie a lot it's better than Shazam It would be in the running for worse film of the year, right? Yeah, I would say so I wouldn't even hesitate on that. Yeah, definitely, but would it win? I don't know. I'm in Quonsumania competitive competition. That's true Though yeah, I'm not looking so bad My dog ain't so bad. People are gonna be surprised by that Indiana Jones has a it's got a good Yeah, it's You know It's got some stuff going for it that that are cool things. I think most of the film adheres to like the laws of gravity But nailed that That's true the laws of depravity All right, we got some messages And we do we do need One thing I will say though about dial-of-destiny is that it has contributed to me hating sympathy for the devil I feel it's super overused and now I just kind of don't like that to I just want that song It was super overused before that trailer. I'm just yeah And now I'm like oh indian. This is so out of place. It's an overused song. That's out of place So it's like a double whammy.  I like those uses Uh, yeah, but that was before again that was before it started to get really overused Automatic cool song and like automatic drool song. Oh Yeah, we just went there. What's your favorite? Yeah, oh, yeah, I know I went there. I I'm gonna I'm going to say I don't know if this is controversial or not But my favorite rolling stone song is jumpin jack flash Okay, and I think that's I don't know if that's controversial or not I'm not poo-poo in any other other songs except some of the other lines gonna be but Yeah, what is your sympathy for the devil though? Oh? One that's really famous The pops up in lots of things Which one would that be? I would be painted black. Oh Yeah, that's a neat sign. That's enough. That's another very frequently used song and uh, yeah, and trial was again I'm gonna do what he did a cover of it for Westworld. It was really cool Okay, I Really dig that jumpin jack flash though. Mm-hmm. I found it through a Nintendo DS game boy. What an amazing console if we call it that handheld system.  He's good. Yeah, I love my DS Still do We're where we have a professional relationship So anyway You have a look at what people have been saying first one There's I'm gay actor Michael Douglas anytime somebody screams werewolf. I reply right here Pointing at my gay actor man parts That's interesting.  I'm gay actor Michael Douglas well Gay actor Michael Douglas makes a good suggestion. I think that uh What they say Jaws are Jurassic Park, sorry Jaws cuz sharks Jaws. Yeah, I mean I'm I like sharks They're cool sharks are pretty sharks are pretty neat sharks are high-tier They would they wouldn't necessarily win the the animal competition, but the badass animal competition They definitely have a really good head start on a lot of a Hammerhead start if you will oh a Hammerhead start like I get the shark, but Hammer start a head start. I got you. Yeah, there we go. All right. Yeah The scene in Liar Liar where Jim blitz out because I'm a bad father still hits me right in my gay actor nuts Yeah, Michael Douglas's nuts get a lot of action He's just he's so passionate about e-fap It's simultaneously a passionate about these subjects that I feel like we need more context on because I'm very good I thought he said he's very passionate about his nuts probably is yeah Which is fair because I I feel that you know similarly. I am also passionate about my nuts They're very important to me. They mean a lot I'm gay actor Michael Douglas and I always love hearing Bill Burr's Philly rant It's legendary something only he could pull off Motley TV has the best upload of it.  Oh, you know Just hmm. I was thinking about it. I was like that's part of my second favorite character She is yeah, people don't like her anymore. She did mean things to her workers or something. Yeah, apparently like sexual Impropriety or Comments or it's something like that. Oh, I it will it will never be funny to me the fact that she Like demanded that the people who like worked for her and everything needed to lose weight that will never not be funny I don't understand how they like How does that conversation go? You know when she says that do they look down at her and then back up and then they're like Are they looking at each other and being like who's gonna tell her? Yeah, like does he know sort of that meme is classic does she know it is But I don't know. Yeah, that's a That's made it drastically unpopular from what I have seen It has ruined her stellar Reputation mm-hmm We have the IP and Harrison is still technically alive So let's squeeze this while we can Lucasfilm probably if every if ever a movie deserved to fail There's a couple of those but I mean, yeah, this thing was cooking for what like Off a decade. Oh, yeah a while.  Yeah, I mean it really it really is fascinating at this point that if you get told Yeah, this movie's been worked on for a long time That doesn't really tell you anything as to whether or not it's gonna be better or worse. Well, yeah, it means it'll be worse It's not that one person got to work on it for a really long time It's that lots of people worked on differing versions of that film for a very short amount of time each Yeah, like it was in development hell Yeah, and then it keeps getting passed between writers and directors and everybody kind of has a different idea What the film is gonna be and portions remain But portions get changed to the point that the final product ends up being like very incoherent Indiana Jones and the dialysis of dysentery.  I think so.  Oh, it is well the best ones always are Rags looks very German today. Oh Thank you. I Do look very I'm a strapping German lad. No Jack saying which is a response to Shad's take on the Mario movie And let me tell you he hasn't changed a bit since the last e-fap stream four years ago Well, Shad's been on since then I think they mean Jackson The reality of that shit is that I don't even want to talk about whether or not Mario was woke Okay, they can have that fight if they want it Yeah, because I mean as far as I'm concerned it wasn't stop talking about it I just don't know what to do with that Mario is work or not one. Get me out of here Please On earth they talked about how meaningful the brotherhood like elements were how they wrote it I don't know if you know like was it supported or taken away by the fact that Luigi didn't have time There's always different aspects of writing. It was just like yeah, but I am interested in talking about the Mario movie as you know Being a being a big fan of Mario as a as a series like you're talking about what kind of film it was and what it could have been It's our fault for not realizing see when we when we like let's talk about the story improvements Or detriments that the remake of Dead Space gave and then everyone chats like hey Talk about the ugly women Every controller nowadays should include a bottle of isopropyl alcohol and compressed air So says gay actor michael douglas Is that beneficial what is isopropyl or alcohol is that hurt? I assume it's like a cleansing thing or And compressed air. I mean, yeah, it's useful when you want to get rid of them Bits and bobs that get stuck between things and stuff Dust times. Yeah, sure everyone should have cleaner controllers. I agree I agree Fringy I saw the look what's the cat dragged in joke And the one with the dog in case there's more than one reference. I lost my mind high rags I think that was the simpsons one we Yeah It's just funny that there's a door specifically for people who are coming back to get their job That makes them crawl through like dust and dirt On their hands and knees and when they get to the other side mr. Burns is waiting for them Uh indiana jones and the trials of locked balls I remember oh my goodness Look oh I'm gay actor michael douglas and i'm here to defend Five nights at freddy's on an objective scale aside from the third game the gameplay that is there is pretty solid for the low price mini games Uh Is it isn't terraria like three dollars? I think terraria at base is like three or four dollars and it often goes on sale It often goes on sale and that's a game that you could probably play for like Hollow night And that's that's like that's an amazing game. It's like 15 bucks Yeah, if i was a freddy's I mean like five bucks to like routinely on sale I just I just remember like five minutes of freddy at craze and everyone was like so amazing and you play it and you're like Why I remember I went slender was really popular Yeah, yeah, you talk about like the Like original attempt or I say original game where you walk around in the in the forest to get the pages Yeah, yeah, because I remember they made slender the arrival. I think Which um I played and I didn't hate it. I I actually thought it was okay like the I think the way that game works is um You like start in a forest But I think you're you're fine until you get to the house and then I think the objective is like close all windows and doors And uh, they have like a sort of built-in I remember thinking like good of them I don't think it drags you to the visual But if you look outside at the right time when you close one of the windows You can just see slender man in the distance And then like I think there's like a lightning strike and he's slightly closer And so then it's like the lights go out in the house And you need to get to the garage to restart them sort of thing and You hear some creepy things that is that sort of That that was like crazy popular kind of horror back in that age Because it's technically walking simulator, right? It's not actually a lot I remember the slender game was just that you walk around in the forest Well that one, yeah, yeah And the key was like don't look at him. I think right is that the Yeah, you don't look at him and run away. Yeah Wasn't there's something about like you had to take pictures with a camera? Wasn't that something about it? That cry of fear you had either No, not cry of fear. I think I think this was slender man wasn't outlaw Outlaws was a video camera. Yeah I know but I I think I'm distinctly talking about I think slender man had a an element where you had to look through Like a camera or you had to take pictures or something like that Well, I remember the original game was you just walked around with a flashlight you grabbed the Like the the drawings on the yeah, like eight pictures scattered throughout the map in a forest But they made us see a bunch of them after that it was popular well Yeah, that was the error of those first person horror games Booktastic and they did it wonders for the let's play industry I'm yeah, I mean that was the genesis really Oh Yo before we dredge through the death of indiana watching asteroid city good rat made me realize something Scar joe hasn't taken a physical acting role since that wretched black widow movie crazy to think that was two years ago Uh, what do you mean? Oh, well, I mean you can't clarify with physical actor. I guess a non non voice actor, I guess Oh Oh, uh, yeah, but she hasn't done that much because she did the isle of dogs, right? That was she was in that one, I think Uh, when's the isle of dogs come out? Uh, that can't well I think that came out like a few years ago Well, yeah, they're talking about sins black widow Is that surprising though? Uh, sure. Yeah Okay, I didn't know her to be somebody who did a lot of voiceover work Uh What do you think we're talking about who scarlett jahanson you said What was it? Can you read the question again the person saying it's really surprising that asteroid city is the first physical role She's had since black widow meaning non voice actors Okay, I think I agree that is surprising Okay, uh and because black widow was 2021 asteroid city So They usually don't go what she's been doing in the meantime. Yeah. Well, she's got three voice acting roles Oh, okay. I got you But two of them are shorts. So you'd think that she would have uh Maybe fold mine with some other stuff. But hey, man, she's in so many movies. I like She played car in the lion king live action The jungle in the jungle book. Yeah jungle book. Yeah For weird reasons. Okay Which is weird because uh Oh, who did his original voice? Oh, I I don't know the guy's name. It's such a distinctive voice Um, I think mario sterling halloween And uh in the remake Sterling halloween Interesting. I haven't seen the jungle book remake. I heard it's fine That's the one that people say is the good one It's crazy, right? All of these and there's the good one Mowgli meets ca the jungle book 2016 seven years ago.  Do you prefer ca or sir hiss? From uh robin hood I don't know I don't think I have any strong opinion on the matter. I like them both I think they're are they both voiced by the same guy? No Sir hiss is terry thomas. Okay all righty Daedalic entertainment who made point and click adventures before golem have now ceased development of games from now on They'll only be a publisher Yeah, well, um, I heard that some of their games were actually uh decent to good before this so Hey, uh Choose your projects wisely Yep, I'm just gonna take a while to build the reputation on that company back up If you can at all because everyone's gonna be like wait a minute. Are those the guys that made the golem game?   It would be so funny really is Because I mean, I mean remember Bioware big old Bioware with hundreds to thousands of devs uh Like announced the intention to make a like a big 2.0, you know anthem uh overhaul and then later they're like nah Yeah, no, no, I think they did like didn't need like one kind of update They did a few of the initially promised updates that you get with like your initial roadmap You know the one that you get at launch and then they said Yeah, we've got like a an incubator that's working on a big overhaul for anthem I think it was called like anthem nexus. It was basically yeah like 2.0 And then several months later they just said no, we're not doing that we give up I guess they're just say we give up but they gave up Yeah, they gave up they just came out one day and basically said yeah, we're not doing it There's going to be no more updates. No, they're just going to move on to something else They're going to cut their losses, which I mean, maybe that's not the worst idea from a business standpoint But it means that you certainly can't do that again. Like if you do a live service game and then you give up on it Um, it's really hard to do it again because the big promise of a live service game is years and years and years of support If you quit like on one of your games That it makes it really hard to sell people on it next time It's like the same problem that sega had with their consoles, you know when they did the satin and then the 32x By the time the dream cast comes around are you going to support this for five six years or two years? You know I wonder what um Because when we talk about no man's sky and it's you know road to redemption and you know where it's at now And how positive people view it what made it worth that kind of effort might have been I mean to look at it in a more I guess a more pragmatic and clinical kind of angle it started off with such a huge install base That I don't think anthem ever had I don't recall anthem being like Oh, yeah, everybody downloaded it and it was pre-ordered to high heaven and everyone had it and it was just Turned out to be a huge disappointment It felt like it was just one of those you know another one of those games that just sort of happened It didn't do well when it came out But the thing is is that some games that didn't do fantastically when they came out can recover warframe Didn't do that well when it came out at first, but now I think that game has been supported for 10 years at this point And it's still healthy Yeah, I I think it's constant good updates keep people playing it and talking about it Um and even when you have games that I mean oddly enough I think I I mentioned as an example guild wars 2 which is about 11 years old now and no one it Rarely does anyone is there anyone ever like oh Like no one thinks about it, but it's been going on for 11 years now and it said its biggest point like they have more developers now than ever and um It's just still going But no one really talks about it, you know So some games they just persist and they keep going and they're able to stay successful even though they're not like in the public You know, I guess I for the most part Well, it's just you need enough people playing and spending money to support You know continued development doesn't need to be the biggest thing in the world Yeah, um Which is strange because you know even as big as wow is however big it actually is now. I'm not certain Well, we don't know anymore. I feel like never I feel like no one talks about it for how big it is and how prominent it is in the mmo space It seems like it's so rare that people talk about world of warcraft Not as much as you'd expect maybe 20 years old at this point. So maybe that's not so bad Maybe I don't know. Uh, pardon me. I need to use the loom gross I like the movie but it missed the magic of lucas and spielberg Opening scene was great. Why was indie scared of bugs that part was weak um Why do people keep his name the opening scene was great freaking why I don't know why people say that the opening scene was pretty bad It really did set a tone of wow We're in for some we're in for a pretty bad film Like I don't know when the bomb fell in the like the the tower Adjust the right place to save his life You know, I think at that point I already knew like, uh, it's over like this film is probably going to be rid of Is it the first thing that happens? You like, oh great.  Why do you do that? I don't know.  He's just fine Like I thought he was gonna come back with a scar or something everyone thought that's no This is if he didn't get smacked off of a train moving at high speed Don't get it never get it What a murderous row of a lineup Yeah, we kind of did murder the film But is it murder when it's self-defense? I don't know Well, I mean they're describing like a murder of crows like uh Yeah, there was a thing or how big is a murder of crows? I figure that two or three crows isn't enough Um, I'm gonna guess five or more and you get yourself a murder But really I have no idea Oh, yeah, it's a murder. I'm gonna say of crows How many crows make a murder spot a murder of crows naturalists agree that you need to see at least three crows Huh. Oh, wow. That's a pretty that's a pretty small group Yeah, you know, it's bad when angry joe shits on the movie Well The hard one to like Now I see but you know, it's playing people still can still be fine All right, dude. I remember seeing a few people saying, yeah, no, it's fun though You know, like I don't know why people are being so harsh It's like a fun movie the fact that you couldn't even say it was a good movie is interesting one movie The dialogue Oh, yeah, that movie sucked Oh, you didn't like it And I think no Can't say I did honestly Where did it end up? What it because this is something that I guess is now, you know weeks removed from when it released Where did indiana jones end up landing in terms of its box office gross? So right now? $370 million With a budget of probably 300 million dollars Tyler destiny. Yeah, it had a 300 million budget. I think it needed to make about 600 million to break even I saw a thing though about Oh, uh, dead reckoning only got to 500 million or something, right? Yeah, dead reckoning is also and that's been over a month since it came out So the amount of money that it's gonna make it's more or less made at this point You know, I find I find it so interesting that so many people keep saying they should have pushed it away from barbie and oppenheimer If anything before any of those films have come out The assumption probably should have been that everybody should have moved out of the way of mission impossible Yeah, because like those films have been pretty consistently successful I think uh, gross protocol has been made like 700 800 million 800 million. Yeah And uh, a lot of money and rognation made like 700 800 million as well something like that Um compared to something like oppenheimer like the fact that oppenheimer has beaten In the uh, has beaten mission impossible is that that should be a surprise That shouldn't be that's not a foregone conclusion Yeah, it's it's it is fascinating as far as i'm concerned. It's a good thing Uh, I agree oppenheimer has made 650 million, which again for a R-rated three-hour long biopic It gives me hope it makes me happy I know men seen a moller Yes Oh, what do you think of it? That was really good. Yeah, all right then me too All right Moving on I didn't think the barbie. What was that good though? Um, no, I haven't on good authority that the barbie movie was I really don't see what those two had to do with each other You know, I just didn't see the how they connected, but I understand Well, I think like I said I think it's the same thing that happened with animal crossing in doom eternal It's a really funny mashup of two very disparate things releasing at the same time Like the mean patrol animal crossing Uh, yeah, except that I don't think that one's gonna work as well no The doom doom crossing and uh, uh, whatever it was. Yeah, I really enjoyed the meme here with like isabella And the doom slayer. Yeah. Yeah, they made a great pair It's it's really I think I think that one works really well as a contrast um Wait, so what what were you saying saw patrol? So is it that a poor patrol movie and saw a tenor coming out around the same time? I think they actually got one of them moved to come out the same day and then everyone was like, uh, oh We actually try and we see in someone trying to force it like a company, but I mean, but There's there's got to be like no overlap There's like no overlap in the kind of person who'd be seeing saw and like a poor patrol movie Yeah, because we're there is Barbie and Oppenheimer Yeah, they're both for adults and they're different kinds of movies entirely so they offer different experiences So you could go to the theater and see both. I don't know who who would who? I mean, maybe someone who has a kid Will be like I'll take him to go see paw patrol and then I'll go see saw Yeah, but the point of the double feature is that you you do both you you see both films That's why barbie and oppenheimer complimented each other a lot of people saw both movies that weekend Which is rare not many people see two movies on one weekend But it was funny because I remember memes about like barbie says, you know You ever think about death and then it just cuts to like oppenheimer staring into the distance like well Yeah, it's it's it's that's that's just funny. It's the same as yeah, like when isabel and uh And doom guy just start fighting demons like it's fighting them together It's amusing and again I think that there's you know, obviously like animal crossing is like an all ages game But a lot of adults play animal crossing A lot of adults who themselves might have been interested in playing like doom eternal and even then, you know Animal crossing was tremendously more successful than doom eternal You know, so barbenheimer is a very unique sort of phenomenon I know metal mentioned it But have any of you played out of wilds and its dlc would love to know your thoughts and maybe a breakdown someday Not yet. I haven't seen it yet. Or I'm sorry played it. I haven't played it yet nor have I It's on my maybe list. I've got it on steam. I just Got to get around highly recommended that one. Yes.  Happy to help. I loved you in quanta mania. I guess Why would you guys seem wall street? No, I don't think so. No I got to make you guys watch wall street okay Well, it's got michael douglas in it. There's a gordon gap. Oh, it's one of his most iconic roles And then he turns up in the one with shayla buff, right? Uh, yeah, you know donald trump shows up in that one nice They they made it like uh, they made it like a barbershop And then donald trump tells uh, gordon gecko that he would look great with a comb over Okay Now we need an update to the south park joke of indy being great to accept its kk instead of george and spielberg Kind of yeah, I'm surprised they wouldn't have taken the opportunity to do something with that Well, I mean we'll we'll be getting a new season Sometime later this year, I imagine because it just feels like it's it's ripe for storytelling and to sort of update the commentary Whatever they have to say, you know Well, yeah, like what do they think because I mean Remember that I also did the the raiders parody with uh spielberg and lucas as well The one where they were remaking uh, all of their old films like they replaced, uh, the blasters with walkie talkies Yeah I Longoids watch sam rockwell in moon as a lony lonely luna technician who makes Distribbing discoveries about his job as retirement looms near Rockwell alone with a great script also high freaky Hey, uh, I need to see that movie have either of you seen it No, sorry. I needed to attend to something. Well, see what movie moon Uh, I saw moon fall. No highly recommend Um, we should get that done sooner rather than later moon is very good Okay, I've not seen moon. What is what is this movie? But it's the last you know now Yeah, don't go discover things. You're right. It's good that you haven't seen it. All I know is that it's called moon I don't know when it came out or who's in it or what it's about or if it's about anything. I don't know Yeah, it could be just about nothing good. You could be It could be an episode of Seinfeld. Yeah Ohio Ohio Steven and the hatred of old folks Ohio Steven Wouldn't it be Jake people always say Jake whenever they do the thanks to Mark Hamill That one interview lives on forever Uh anime eFap when? Oh, you know What about me any day now if we if we I mean if a movie comes out that we really like and we're really Interested in talking about and it happens to be an anime Sure, there you go if that happens But i'm not gonna I am not going to track down an anime You know wow Yeah, have you walked one punch man? Uh rags. Have you seen that I've not but I've heard that it's very good Rags would love that. Wow easy. We'll have to make you walk one punch man. Yeah Yeah, I've heard good things from I've heard good things from Uh baller and you so I believe it but when random people tell me an anime is good. I don't believe them I I think you I think you'll really like Moomin Ryder. I think you'll like a lot Yeah, I'm I'm happy to watch one punch man. I've heard good recommendations from people I trust one punch man is really great It really is now. I'm just thinking about all of the best moments from that show Like it's so great. Isn't there a name for an anime? There's an anime genre I forget what it's called but it that it's self aware as anime. It's one of those I can't remember what name it's given though because There's loads of categories in anime that make people familiar with exactly what kind of genre they're getting But that's part of probably why I love it so much is that It makes fun of anime Let's see self What kind I'm trying to find out what it's called um Shoujo shujo Is that it? What does what do they say the definition of that is? um, let's see the art of being self aware Gekkan shouju nozaki kun is a shujo series about the author of a shujo series I don't know. I have no idea. Maybe that's referring to something. I don't know, uh Anime's that break the fourth wall be self aware. Uh, yeah, I don't know Oh google says shujo refers to young girls often magical girls like sailor moon and shonen respectively means young boys from about 12 to 18 Many of the most popular anime in the world fall into one of these two categories Then I've definitely heard shonen. That's what that's the genre that like dragon ball z And uh, like uh one pace and all of that. That's like one of the most common genres. I think of anime and manga Well, I don't know Yeah, well, there's probably a name for it. Someone will know probably some I'm sure there's a it's like german There's a just just a name for everything Yeah Also shonen from actual justice warrior crossover when I don't know I think that's more of a political but perhaps media discussion can happen at some point. Who knows? Um Bringing have you finished tootk yet and what are your overall thoughts on the game? I've not finished it. I haven't even completed the first temple, but I really really like it best when I've played Can you go back? Uh, I probably will want to finish Pikmin for and I'm real close to finishing that game. Mm-hmm Wow a Canada Day evap excellent Even though it was Canada Day. All right, that's like a couple of days removed from uh independence day.  Oh, well, we would have in the time of I think so. Yeah. Yeah. I think I was on once and moller was on um I think today short fat of taku is on theirs. Um, I'm actually going I mean much to What does today mean, you know, well, he's been on a couple of times so it couldn't end up meaning a lot I'll be more specific 10 hours ago Uh, uh, yeah, that thing so that should help narrow it down. Yeah Indos pacific johnson and the diabetes of despotism All right, well, I mean we would be like midwest Jones Like it's it's the like, you know, I mean in the alley is not is the joke So you get as far away from whatever his actual name is Well, I yeah, I can see the through line there, but wow, I find the name midwest jones funny now Great likes jones They should make an indy movie show Uh de-aged that opening scene was cool, man. Nothing will touch the trilogy.  I hated it All of it was see it was It was also green screen nonsense. There wasn't a touch of reality to any of it And it was de-aged like heaven the what I'm trying to say is like this goo everywhere. It's not even just like regular goo Bad goo. I agree with you fringy. Andrew tate is the correct next step in human evolution That's you said that That's a strong that's a strong position to have fringy It's it's that random person's thing that they just said Continental drift is not an issue the solar system orbits the milky way at eight to eight thousand kilometers per hour That's 130 times greater than the radius of earth every hour So the solar system moved 43 billion kilometers in 2181 years It doesn't have anything to do with continental drift. Are they saying that that's the true concern versus continental drift? Well, I think the point they're making is a problem that has to be dealt with a lot in time travel stuff Is that you're not it can't just be that you're traveling through time. You also have to be traveling through space It's locked to the earth's core I mean, but that but again relative to what it's always going to be relative to something To the earth's core as we just said, but uh Oh, so like it would always be attached to this something. Yeah, like a Longitude latitude Or a position on the plane or something it would it would be nice to get I can without them mentioning it I'm fine. I'll go with it But it would be nice if I had that Latitude it would always be in the same like longitude and latitude would remain consistent Even if the continents move the only problem would be if you were Measuring relative to the continents not relative to sure that would only matter if you're the continental drift would probably only be an issue If you were traveling extreme distances in time Uh, it would probably not account for like the vast majority of time travel done I mean the observation about the way the continents move is that over the course of like 20 or 30 years It's minimal like the movement over over thousands of years. It's it's barely anything Like it takes a long time for the continents to move so much that they start to look different With remembering though that all that was bullshit, right? That didn't have anything to do with anything technically It didn't even matter. No, it's just something he said that wasn't even true Yeah, just threw everyone off and then none of it mattered anyway because the machine was only ever going to take them Back to where it was said to be built or whatever Um, it's kind of like how um, I think there's uh, there's an scp about a teleportation device that doesn't take into account Um momentum So when it teleports you somewhere else because the movement of the planets and everything like that Anything that comes out of the teleporter is like insanely dangerous and destructive Um, so yeah, it's an interesting little, you know thing like oh, yeah, we built a teleportation device Oh, shit. How do we how do we you know preserve, you know momentum through the teleportation device? Oh, we can't oh shit Because of the flash I binged a lot of batman movies recently and I got to say 89 and 92 are way better than I remembered and the Nolan trilogy doesn't hold up so well Goya really never was that good it seems Um, I would argue I've come to I mean I always loved them because I've watched them since I was a kid the uh 89 and 92 But as of recently when you like really dig in sometimes you're like, oh, shit Actually, there's more here than I even realized wow because When people making films back then they still were very much concerned about scripts and themes and you know getting the characters Right and stuff and yeah 92 especially like or returns neat a neat movie Okay, not but neat Have any of you watched videos from hello future me his videos slash books on writing and will building a solid He would be a great guest for rings of power season two or if you cover the atla netflix adaptation next year But that still isn't out. Yeah, I've heard people talking about that for ages I know that there's a couple adaptations happening. I remember seeing people posting images about the uh the one piece one I think Yeah, there's that I think there's a Percy Jackson is getting like another adaptation as a tv show Well, that's a though and then of course how to train your dragon is getting a live action film adaptation Yeah, I'd be on board with um having an arm and my god when we get to rings of power season two Gonna feel it's gonna feel weird almost like I out as expected Well, maybe we're not planning on doing that little live action We're not planning on doing coverage for the live action Avatar the last day of bender. I mean, I'm probably not going to watch it, but I'll watch other people break it down. That sounds like fun Like er hopefully that brings er fully out of retirement not that he's in retirement, but you know more videos They should have done indiana jones and the fate of atlantis That was a great lucas film project a game from 1991. It had everything used age dollar dollar dollar Sure, I played indiana jones and the fate of atlantis on our mac back in the day There is a good dial of destiny out there. You know you could have made one Yeah, there's a good potential dial of destiny. Absolutely a very well done dial of destiny would be super cool You could even have him to where Like you could have this idea that he wants to stay in the past Be like a really you that can be presented in a very good way That's very crowd pleasing and satisfying Not because he wants to just fucking die and doesn't even want to go back home But he maybe he feels like you know, I've done, you know what I need to do in my own time You know, I've left a legacy behind You know now I finally want to live through the thing that I you know enjoy so much and love so much I've met an idol, you know, and and that's where he wants to be for a bit You know, there's a there's a way to make that work If I can be honest like we you could have made the film that I think man gold is intending to make Which is the indy has a Relative low point of thinking that he's got nothing to offer the modern world But the point of the film is that he absolutely does Obviously, we wouldn't have done it the way he did it We wouldn't have made lots of those choices But yeah, you can easily facilitate that by you know Evil villains open up a portal with the dial of destiny to get to the past to fuck it all up He chases them in stops them and then he's you know, he's sort of all out everything's good And then it's like well Do I need to go back But I not stay here And that would be interesting or you could do a lot with it But you wouldn't just have his goddaughter punch him and drag him back to a place that he doesn't want to be because he wants to die Oh What do you think of the idea that due to the dial of destiny's Like I guess power or or something regarding what it does its ability someone from the past get stuck in Modern times or contemporary times for indiana jones And he meets them and they're like the fish out of water character And he can speak with them because he can speak greek or egyptian or something like that And the the nazis are trying to kidnap this person and find them or whatever I think there's actually a lot we could do with that if that would maybe um I don't know if we put that at the end or make the premise of the film that but the idea of course is the Uh in the same vein the indiana jones is a living Like library of all things that ever happened and that he's finding that he's not as much useful right now Especially with like I don't know interest in um astronomy It would be interesting to have him have someone like that who is desperate for someone who can understand them But also help them integrate You'd be like, you know, I mean it's like it's in the form of a person and then you have the wider point as well And think of the think of the cool we could bring with a character like that from You know such a long time ago And uh, yeah, I don't know Just it's the kind of thing right like all three of us the thing is like don't make another one But if you do can you at least try? Try yeah, could you give a shit, you know if you make it could you try that would be cool If you tried Do you guys plan on efat movieing the transformers films michael bay five movies and the two reboot films I think a transformers arc is on the cards at some point. Yeah Maybe maybe I'm not against it I'm not against it either Demoralization must include the destruction of indiana jones pwb is the remoralization These commies tried to do it in the same movie. What's pwb? Baby walla bridge. All right.  I know it's crazy gets his friend killed too That's true. You guys going to watch the clone wars show and come to your own conclusions or not Probably not No, I'll take the Are you gonna come to your own conclusions? Nah, I mean there's there's loads of films and tv shows We should be allowed to to not want to watch something. I think that's totally fine 100% I uh if fringy Watched a movie and then said no point. You see in it. You're not gonna like it It's certainly not like interesting or good enough in any way. I would take that Over like a lot of people saying the film is really good Just because much more familiar with the taste of all that sort of stuff and Theo, you know, like it's a super controversial take. I know but I saw I think a season and a half maybe two And then I've seen loads of clips and I'm aware of like some of the events later in it I'm just like I'm not going to enjoy that and I didn't like of what I saw I think that's a reasonable thing to say Like what No seven seasons of television Yeah It's like anything seven seasons or whatever of stuff that I could spend on like the wire or sopranos, which I desperately need to see at some point Or rewatching Breaking Bad because that shows cool And Walter White is my hero Yeah, why not you haven't even seen it I haven't seen that. That's true Lord Longbong of muleslington abbey Is there any good chance of a kong fap of peter jackson's long kong when there's less going on Why I played the long kong game. That's gotta mean something, right? That's gotta kill for something the long kong game is worth something But it's still not long kong the film. It's actually longer kong than the long kong film It is it is longer kong than the long kong, but there's still more long kong to watch There is and they would still be longer kong To watch even if we did watch the film because we could look at the long time special features And other kong deleted scenes extended editions Interviews Is there an is there an extended and normal for long kong? I think I think so because I'm pretty sure that film was like three hours long That's what I remember. I think there was an extended version of it as well Deluxe extended edition three disc set Good god. Wow. That's a lot of discs Is this one of those movies that's even when it was on dvd They had to like you had to switch out the discs is so long Maybe maybe not. I don't know. Well, yeah, yeah, maybe when there's less going on. I suppose Yeah, maybe Yeah, when there's less going on. Yeah, it's on lowest and clock 93 with deed and cane I like to just get I've only seen a few episodes on it I haven't seen it since I was a young and so I can't remember much of it I remember just being like a pretty normal television show from the 90s Do you know one of the only things that I remember almost vividly is one payoff where I believe it happens in the show is the Clock Kent is outed as being Superman. It's like, oh no, it's terrible. We're gonna do that And then the end of the pay paying off at the end is the He is standing next to Superman like they're two different people and he's like hello And he's like, hello Like clearly not me. He's like, yeah, we did it. We proved it and I remember as a kid Think of like how how did how did they do that?  It's It's ridiculous. I don't buy it It's not even like a scavenged kryptonian technology or something. No, I don't think so It's like, no, it's just like we got this at home depot our office depot Oh my god, someone's Had uh dr. Deegan in the book of destiny remember that dr. Deegan in the book of destiny I remember that that's the guy who called lowest louis Louis they didn't care And it's whatever Lewis hi fringo and all Hi, hi. Hey Have you seen the new trailer for the future armor reboot? It actually looks decent. I have some cautious optimism for this one Uh, we've watched the first two episodes and it is acceptable Give it. That's okay. I give it a a wobbly thumbs up It's like it's like the thumb between middle and up. Yeah Uh, would have preferred if it was way better than that, but I accept It could have been worse at least for those that there'd probably be a third episode out by now, right? Hopefully I'm inclined to check them out Um, that's that's that's probably the best news out of all of it is that I'm like, I wouldn't be against watching another one of those I praise these days. Yeah, I praise Hey massives, I recently found out that the original actor for jabba before he was an alien was from northern island Funny that that and the titanic are belfast's greatest claims to fame All right Can you guys try a northern irish accent? I'd be interested to see you guys attempt my country's bad accent high rags mubes and frongoloi Hello, I I I don't think I'll try I uh, I don't think I'm gonna try that one. I would need to know Sounds like yeah, I'm I don't even I'm like what's the full difference between are we talking like the people in? Uh In a sharing the banshee's in a sharing that accent No, that's northern island is different. There's is irish, right northern island is uh I've only ever heard it like a few times I was gonna say like I don't think I'm familiar with northern irish at this point as an accent It would have to be going by movies at this point Like I said, I've just got so few references that I wouldn't even I wouldn't even try I would even try an irish accent. I don't I don't know that that's one. I would uh, That I can do or even try to do Man, I wasn't like exact fictional characters that are northern irish. I don't recognize any of these Gerald brandy, Lindsay Nolan, Tom Brannick, Anna O'Neill, Jim McDonald He's from those names are pretty stereotypical. I wish they wouldn't do that coronation street Uh Holly oaks, that's a soap opera, isn't it? Yeah, a lot of these are soap operas right Well, I'm afraid we can't help you on that one But maybe one day Yeah, maybe uh, how do you guys feel about the current mismanagement of halo? Halos the reason microsoft has a spot in the gaming industry and yet it feels like they're apathetic to the franchise They even fired the whole campaign team um, I mean it's I mean, what's to be said the last 10 years has been a disaster It's just been you know mistake after mistake misstep after misstep Yeah, if you want good content you're gonna play the mcp, you know loss after loss That's a that's a deep lore reference for Halo But yeah, it's been it's been fucked Um At this point, I don't even know what it looks like to recover it as a I think it says a lot that um That there were so many people that were still clinging on to hope myself included all the way up until halo infinite I think that says a lot about how much goodwill Was accumulated during those first 10 years of that that franchise's history, but at this point it just I don't know. I don't I don't think halo infinite can be salvaged I think they had their chance and blew it if if like forge is even gonna rehabilitate that game Then yeah, they're in trouble and I don't know what the next one looks like.  How bad could it be? It's gonna second season And and at this at this point, you know as the chatter pointed out like oh, well, you know Xbox owes a lot to halo in terms of its existence But at this point now with Bethesda and looks like the activision blizzard thing is going to go through Don't need halo anymore. I don't think Um That at this at this point, there's probably a lot more value For xbox as a brand to be pulled from Bethesda's ip's or whatever they're gonna do with call of duty then they can get from halo You're crazy. I don't think they're ever gonna Yeah, like god of war is Who's older god of war or halo is halo right halo is older god of war was 2005 halo is 2001 So it's like god of war is still an absolute titan for making money on these Well, the interesting the the thing is is that god of war Ascension didn't do very well That game didn't sell very well. So, you know god of war had to essentially reclaim its relevance Think about that is interesting because me and metal played it for the first time when he came over and he thought it was all right Okay, it's like it's not a bad game All I remember from the time was that people were just kind of bored with uh that like that it wasn't that people Were saying it was a bad game. It's just like yeah, it feels like doing god of war three again The people kind of wanted something a bit different Which is interesting because gears of war also began in 2005 Uh has also been going and it feels like gears of war is not in a place where it's super duper relevant Yeah, like god of war is now to be fair. It's been a while since the well not not that long since gears five um But I mean at this point I would imagine that like gears of war is a place that's going to be more reliable for microsoft than halo How much do you think god of war owes its uh status right now to the writing quality of the games Uh, I think it owes a good amount of it to that. I think that that's the I think that's a big part of its perception as a game Uh is is that it's well written that people really like the story and the characters in the world More so than a hyper focus on the combat Because I really wonder if it was just written like shit, but at the same combat level It's like it would it would have to be a significantly lower level of popularity, right? I mean, well, I mean, I will say like I don't think the spider-man game is even remotely as well written as a god of war But like the spider-man game is more successful than god of war and is well regarded for its story. So I You know what I mean like I I feel like I'm not But I guess it's interesting because at this point sony has cultivated the we make the you know cinematic story games I don't mean how many people talk about horizon super favorably is like a narrative. I barely hear anybody talk about anything about the story I just I heard as people said that they don't like the characters that they don't like aloy That's all I've heard um But then of course you've got like ghosts of sushi that everybody really liked for its story too Uncharted same thing, but I mean uncharted three stories are Pretty flawed and people still really like that. So I'm not sure. I don't know what to make of it But I do think that a lot of god of war success is attributed. Uh, it's attributable to the writing Jammer man of fortune, eh? Don't believe me said that why did he say that? Why? Jammer man of fortune and jay must seek my fortune And what did he say the name because it was uh, you put an ass on the end of it All right Switch the six to a nine. It's it's classic. It's so funny 1964 or something. Yes Like avery from 1964 talking about his fortune on libertalia I Stuff You'll you'll understand don't you worry Okay, the thing about it is the this will come out after that's been seen. So it'll make sense. We'll see it on Wednesday.  All right No super chat two three four super tattoo three four catch up is Findable. Um, I think it was made after this was sent in so it is it is available I assume this person found it. Um, just search for it. You'll find it. And also, what will the batman two make? Hmm I don't know. I I don't know what to make of Oh, dude, I don't know anymore like what what the future holds for like there. It's been so unpredictable Yeah, it is really hard to predict. This is a big problem right now And the question is how much how much damage has been dealt to the dc brand to the point that any dc thing Even the batman which people generally I think perceive as being separate like most people understand that how much will that be damaged How much does aquaman make will be an interesting sort of a test I think What does aquaman's lack of success tell you about batman though? What do you think? Uh I think it will be interesting to see what happens when dc's most successful film What happened second time around? um Because even you know like that was I guess I guess it's hard to it's hard to pin down Because some of their like wonder woman was successful financially suicide squad. The first one was successful financially Of course, justice league did very badly and shazam was a modest success And then it was after that that like the only dc films that were successful was batman and joker that were totally independent um Maybe maybe the more relevant piece of information is by the time that batman two comes out By then the dcu will have started Yeah, and what does that mean if you have competing batman's not not competing but you know two different iterations of batman running at the same time And uh, whatever happens with joker two, which I have no idea what'll happen with doesn't tell you anything about what'll happen to the others Well, the penguins show that they're making for a hbo max That'll be happy to Well, how many people watch it will be interesting Uh, because if a lot of people watch it, that's probably a really good sign If not a lot of people watch it, it might be a bit harder to You know tell what that means Do you think that people sort of separate the batman from the rest of the dcu stuff? Like there's no Like there's no confusion like it's set apart from the rest in the same way that like joker was So the thing is is that We know that people who pay attention to films know that comic book people know that I think a decent amount of the general audience knows that but I also I don't know I don't I don't like to I don't like to make assumptions that everybody is A lot of people think the sony, you know films are mcu films people think like venom is part of the mcu He's not Um, but I think that's more technically he is That I think it is more understandable. That's true rags. I I agree with that Um, I I think I think more people than not probably know that the batman is not part of like the dcu EU But what happens when we have two batmans running concurrently like proper instead of Ben aflic occasionally showing up every now and then what happens when you've got the batman two and the brave and the bold at the same time um Also, play little nightmares the developers tazia studios have teased their next game So play little nightmares before it comes out, please Maybe at some point. I don't know I said I've seen a little bit of it. It seems neat We deal with our own little nightmares on efap. So I don't know if we need any more What do you think it was watching through secret invasion and dial of destiny those are those are our little nightmares A little several hours With them including the item of the spear of destiny It feels like that was supposed to be the original item that indy found but kathleen got involved and wanted the new gill New gill the boss bit shit up I don't know what to believe But um, it could be all the other indiana drones do films do this there's always a like an initial treasurer from coronado And uh, we have the the cross of coronado in uh the last crusade We have In the radius of the lost ark the what's the the golden idle? Yep golden idle in temple of doom It is the remains of some ancient guy. Uh, I forget who Because they just talk about it, right? They don't actually yeah, and I assume the point of it is it's like We're seeing the end of a previous adventure for the sake of getting a nice action scene and getting into the groove Yeah, maybe one leads into another. Yeah that's kind of interesting now i'm thinking about because uncharted has a A structure that's often the case where it's like in pursuit of one thing it leads to the next thing So looking for uh francis rakes coffin, and then it turns out it's empty that leads to eldorado uh, and then uh I was about to say I think that's the only one actually I was trying to think what was it in uncharted 2 because it was Shangri-La to Get the chintamani stone which then gets revealed to be something else the twists and turns that you have in these little adventures, right? Yeah, so they say They assume that the film was originally going to be about the uh spear of destiny, but I'm inclined to believe they always intended that I don't know why destiny Feels like that seems to me more likely to be the idea all along But who knows who knows Could have been anything could have been that they were just gonna chill out in his house Did you know you mentioned Shangri-La? Did you ever read lost horizon by james hilton? not the 1933 novel and it is uh as far as I know I think that is um That is the origin of west origin of it I think um, I think that's either the origin of it or the popularization of it um This this remote place in the tibetan mountains And a bunch of people like have a plane crash that lands them there and You know, it's about them either getting out or staying there or whatever it is. Um, but um Yeah, I I don't know if it's if it's an actual Like place in I believe it has some historical rooting Uh, I think that that's the general idea That's the idea with all of the things in uncharted because the first one was el dorado But then the reveal is it's not a city. It's a statue That statue is cursed and in uncharted 2 was going of Shangri-La which is also called shambala I believe and it's the chintamari stone, which then is revealed to be the tree sat from the tree of life that gives people immortality and then uncharted 3 was um, uh In the rubal carly desert the Atlantis of the sands, uh, iram of the pillars And uh, and then uncharted 4 was libertalia the fabled uh pirate save haven essentially that uh avary founded But each of them ends with a little subversion. There's always not quite what it seems My goodness Oh except uncharted 4 had no supernatural elements, which was an interesting change of pace One two three and golden abyss. I think all had some supernatural element to it 4 was just a bunch of pirates Basically killed each other because they were too greedy I've always kind of wondered yeah, yeah, what were you going to say what were you wondering about my because I've always liked the original three indiana jones movies And the way that they sort of dip their toe into the supernatural has kind of been interesting to me And I wonder like does dial of destiny go a bit too far with that when it comes to like opening time portals and Things like that that'll transport you back in time There's still this element of me that thinks that's too like um overt Uh, because even though yeah, because the because the first two movies they were they had unnatural You know, obviously supernatural elements to it, whether it's the arc eradicating the nazis or ripping out people's hearts and um Of course with the last crusade you have, you know the the the holy grail And those are really cool and neat little artifacts that do cool things that have some root in mythology but I feel like the dial of destiny that a greek guy made To predict some like phenomenon there's some time phenomenon on earth is just it takes it a bit too far and makes it a bit too grandiose um I Gree I think I'm pretty sure of something that I've talked about it was either on open bar And I'm pretty sure we would have talked about again on eFap um that the idea of all of the Stuff from Indiana Jones being rooted in some kind of like mythology um That is like traceable to the past and so usually yeah Bring it out localized to some extent right the holy grail is an item and oh, oh, oh no Have I cut off or can you um we can now? Yes, we can okay All I was saying was the the idea that I I understand what you mean in the sense that The arc is an item in a location and the holy grail is this item in this location Compared to there are rifts in space You know in space time that appear around the world that can be tracked with the like it's it's broad in terms of its implications It's not very localized a lot of people made the argument about should india ever be tangled up in time travel like um, I I think we could do it well exit. Yes I think if it was an object that Or some maybe some place or some very localized phenomenon that like there was an ancient temple built around that stories talked about Some long lost civilization Uh, if we talking about the fate of Atlantis or Lemuria or something like that um That like there some believability to the idea that it can be hidden Um, like the world wouldn't know about it I think the most I would ever push it would be like what they did in Uncharted 2 and 3 is like a lost city Uh, it like of just sending him to a lost city That that feels like uh, that's big enough Uh, especially is like an ending, you know compared to traveling back in time Um, it might also just be that Again time travel is like it just feels more science fiction than fantasy it does Yeah, and indiana jones got like fantasy Uh, in terms of as far as it would go though. I guess the question is do you think that Do you think that indiana jones can't have aliens as like a as a part of the sexual You know the discussion for that at the time was should you have aliens or not because it feels they just feel like different steps, don't they I don't i'm not feeling aliens No, I don't feel aliens either It would be like if Uncharted had aliens it would just be now we don't do aliens We we have like ancient, you know, rooted in mythology typically as uh, not not aliens I think I think the best you could do that is the kind of like, you know, you guys know, um Uh, what's it called chariots of the gods Yeah, is that ring a bell? Uh, that was an old novel from Like the seven sixties or seventies which kind of I think it started off like the whole ancient aliens thing that Aliens came to earth a long time ago and helped us with technology and monuments and things of that nature And a lot of our mythology Is based off of these otherworldly visitors Um that you might be able to do something with that with indiana jones, but I would never I would never meet them I think yeah, so I I think having a giant flying saucer It's like oh, I feel like we should make something that feels a little bit more magical than that Have it be, you know, the whole like it's so, you know, sufficiently advanced technology just comes across as magic But a flying saucer, it's like that's like that's science fiction, you know Yeah, that's that's science fiction If we had indiana jones and his and a compatriots, whoever they may be discovering um an alien artifact that was Treated as magic by the people from a millennia ago or millennia's ago If the the the art on the the murals on the walls Would depict maybe strange creatures and they sort of like drip fed you a little bit, but it wasn't too overt I think that could be a lie to the end, you know Yeah, maybe and you realize maybe it's aliens Yeah imply and have a cynical character that has explanations That maybe have a few holes in them something that Yeah, um because I think I think that film reveals that this aliens very early, uh, well, yeah, it's nuts But the time you hit the edge is fucking crazy Yeah, it's like yeah, alien skulls downloading knowledge swirling around.  It's almost it's essentially it's a curse and you know me I love a good curse so India Again, so it's uncharted is very heavily influenced by Indiana Jones And I think the clearest way that you can see that inspiration is that there's always a cursed aspect To what they're looking for at first. It's like, yeah, we'll get old errata. That's going to be amazing We'll get this big golden statue and then you find out that it's cursed and it turns people into monsters And then it's the same with like the you know the the tree saffron the tree of life seems to turn people into twisted monsters Like having these elements and then the the gin in uh, Arama the pillars is like another Crazy hallucinogenic kind of thing that causes people to go nuts that usually it's like you want something You find out that you don't need it, you know that you're enough like simply being here and doing these things and being a hero is enough Yeah, holy grail sort of manner kind of stuff holy grail feels like the perfect representation of that that he wins through Fully understanding and a full appreciation and knowledge of these artifacts and a respect for them that isn't Reflected in their villains who are much more Egotistical self-serving ignorant about these things and then a willingness to let go Of that prize because it's more important to be alive and to save the people that you care about than it is to Reclaim a treasure and end up dead Yeah This pathway to because like in the end of the last crusade that whole you know The whole sequence in the temple are a huge portion of it was It's about like, you know being virtuous doing it for the right reasons You know having a knowledge of you know the base mythology You know like spelling Jehovah and kneeling and tests of faith and cup of a carpenter kind of you know Stuff like that. That's very interesting. I mean, I think it's I think it's great. I love it Yeah, and it's it's really cool and then compared to kingdom of the crystal skull gets confused because it seems like returning the skull To this place is a good thing Because it means that the aliens can leave and go home But like if you stay there for too long you get punished, you know what I mean? Like it's it's kind of strange You wanted to know it's weird. You got it Well, yeah, I guess at the same time it's like but the alien gets to go home Which is like the alien was separated.  I mean imagine the movie where They fly and they realize pretty quickly that this is the wrong place And they go yep turn around and they do and then they fly back and that's it Exactly It's just that would be awkward It wouldn't feel the same as what was done with all of the other films Where it's like don't look at the Ark of the Covenant It's not something that you're meant to look at And indy's willingness to not gaze upon this thing that he's not meant to see is a thing that saves his life Whereas everybody else dies and then of course same with the you know Understanding what the holy grail is like an understanding of the mythology and all of the information It's just yeah compared to christs with skull and dial of destiny the central reveal is very confused in both instances Uh, if you don't mind positive for a moment. I'm gonna grab a drink and I'll be right back Harrison Ford belongs in a museum Give me a little bit It's kind of unfortunate. He's been um He's like like like as he's commented on he's like pretty active when filming kingdom of the crystal skull and To be fair, he's relatively active for his age in this It's like man, there's an alternate timeline where we could have gotten good stuff good Good in the anagina joins films. Yeah, nobody's saying that it's like stop making these if they were really good, but This is a safer aspect now Safer attitude I still remember the days when we were just really excited to see New visions of classic IPs that we love. Yeah, bring me more It was there was a time where I would have been thoroughly excited to see terminator three And I was like, okay That's not quite like the experience of watching the first two strange Yeah, zero interest in this movie, but all the interest in the bloodbath of this breakdown will be love you massifs Such a fascinating cultural change, isn't it? Entertainment about entertainment is the preferred entertainment Kind of feeds into the whole react content stuff, doesn't it? Yeah, kind of the preference of just being with people when you consume the thing, but You know I mean, it's it's weird because like I still very much value The experience of watching films whether or not I'm with a person Not like We're in a world where because like, you know, XTC said that he believes that's just the straight-up future Everyone's gonna want to do it with everyone That was uh South Park did that episode years ago commentary is the content Well south park are often prophetic No This PewDiePie gave them footage for that episode, didn't he? Yeah, that's right. No, it's just the idea of being baffled that somebody would want to watch somebody playing dragon age instead of playing it Yeah The conversation of sports will come up Yep Naturally, unrightly I would say Well, that's the thing like there are some sports I've enjoyed in my life But for the most part I didn't quite get it and then I'll happily watch someone do a playthrough of like Fucking lord of ring golem or something. They'd be like, why? It's like because it's funny. I don't know Yeah Considering that the first 20 to 30 minutes is the good part strap in masses. It's gonna be a bumpy ride. Also high rags Well the good part would you even would you even concede that it is the stronger part though? Maybe Uh, even that though, you know, maybe well now i'm thinking about like well, why would I say that? It's like, I don't know Hmm because because it's A moving train and he's trying to hide from nazis and he looks like indy more so than super old indy Is like is that why that's the best one part?  It was pointless That's kind of why I was talking about how like it's like probably the best part because I mean it like look out for the eels and then the eels go And he's like, whoa, look at those eels Yep The um the part where indy's explaining what happened to mutt was Like the best and worst part of the movie in a way Because it's like the only time where he gets to act a bit, you know, like deliver some lines emotionally But it's also like this is where you learned that mutt went to go to war and died To spite indy because the relationship was so shit.   Thanks awesome You know for a fact if they were forced contractually to say he was alive They still would have been like Why isn't he with you? Well because he hates me. I was too controlling in his life.    So I don't have to no problem You bet I just started watching shinobal and reading house of leaves Which are now two of my favorite pieces of media also new fear unlocked radiation poisoning Yeah, that's a bad one It's really really horrible Here ye, oh massives know that there is an actual noom book out on store shelves and despair Oh and great greetings to ragsimus Oh greetings to you Yeah, I seen noom every once in a while Like look at him go Like a noom Now this movie isn't bad because in 1977 a stormtrooper Then true. That's true. Yeah Well the spear is an artifact like weapons. So checkmate history bigots An artifact like a weapon. I like that Uh, sorry. I'm not watching eFap. I'm watching buffy instead. I'll catch it later Godzooks. Hopefully you're enjoying it There's a reason why movies like those made by tom cruise still set the bar for action scenes practical effects and stunts look real because they are Real cg just rips you out of the experience Hey, there's still a decent amount of cg in the mission impossible films It's just that they've there's more that's real to them than a lot of films will do for sure Yeah, I feel like they don't rely on it. They use it to I guess accent the you know what's going on I mean for all for all the problems that mission impossible has Dead reckoning like in a way. I still respect it, but yeah, you know Yeah, I can't I can't like I don't hate it. I understand why people would but You know The big question is why did Harrison Ford do this movie? He thought it was good. I guess I think Harrison Ford has always preferred like the indiana jones character over han solo That's my understanding So I think it's a lot easier to get him to do in indiana jones than it is to get him to do another star wars movie Yeah, but he just I think he legitimately really likes indiana jones and is willing to do it and I think disney wanted to See if they could squeeze I might I got one more film. I guess they regret that now probably I guess I think that if they didn't have Harrison Ford being on board it wouldn't have happened Maxi how it could happen They tried it with solo and it didn't work, you know Trying to replace the actor Well, of course and I think the question was more about like why would he accept this Instead of pushing something else. It's like, I don't know I guess he thought it was good. I don't know I think he likes indiana jones. I think it's something that I don't see Well, yeah, but that one could argue his liking of indiana jones would have prevented him from making this film Um, maybe but then again, I thought you know, it's very likely that he just thought it would be good And he liked the idea of it on paper Yeah, that's what i'm saying That's my assumption is that he actually did think this story was good that he wasn't convinced that it was bad, but I don't know man a shit ton of passionate indiana jones fans seem to think it's the worst of five Interesting not that it's good either. Well, I'll have you know that our good friend good friend of the channel organized chaos Uh believes that dial of destiny is better than temple of doom That's fine. He's probably gonna say it's racist and stuff which puts him almost into YMS tier of indiana jones Rating but Oh boy, I don't know what it is about indiana jones that makes some people just go full tism Let me say that's not that doesn't line up with why am I why am I said temple doom was the best one, right? Well In terms of the rankings of indiana jones movies He's almost at that tier Because saying that dial of destiny is one better than alas crusade is Insane in the membrane. I see Shout out to rlm for pooping on lucas for making indy 4 totally suitable time for this and to oliver harper for saying indy 5 better than four over and over Uh Like I said, I think four's better, but sure Most people would argue four's better just because of the ending like not even considering anything else the ending alone I Believe this is Yeah, it doesn't take a steaming dump all over indiana jones so At the end at least Do you guys do shoot super chats? yes Sometimes take a little longer to get to them and preferred but that uh As you can tell as I am reading the message we do not in the mainline episodes anymore We've evolved I said the uh, I was mostly inspired to do that by drinkers sort of running the um The two sections almost separately it it makes it more definitive instead of like running on until possibly going for What we used to do right like the actual 11 54 minute cap Yeah, that's uh, that's long guys. That's a long time To me it makes a lot more sense. You get the show and then the show sort of show plus or show after dark when we talk directly to everybody Shout out to elsa schneider based.  I don't know what that means. I don't know what that that means. Yeah, it's a mystery to me So the big question jake jones or indiana jake. There should be a poll Oh Indiana jake. I think I like indiana jake. I like yeah You think that it is like because at first, you know at first it seems like it's all as well But then it's like, oh wait. No, you're not who I remember Yeah, it's also the same idea that his last name is jake Doesn't sound as punchy does it like yeah Indiana jake jones sounds like a name, you know, that sounds like it. That's a name indiana jake is weird That's just strange Uh, this is an indiana jones. It's ohio johnson Ohio johnson No Maybe maybe ohio johnson if they give him his own movie at some point that'll actually be popular It'd be his distant cousin Thanks for saving me 60 plus dollars bringing my family to this film this week. Good god. Yeah, spend it on anything else Don't don't go see that In fact, just have them all sit around and watch Raiders or temple of doom or last crusade Or all of them This whole flying through a storm time travel sounds like the movie flight of the navigator. Did they rip that movie off? Oh, wow fly.  That's your own thing. Whatever you're doing this Indy you won't let me live.  Um Didn't they say Yeah, he may well have I think it's his last time playing a character that again like rag said Which I agree with it does seem like he really really really likes Indiana Jones More so than he likes Han Solo. I really really like Indiana Jones. He's really cool Well, I mean, I really like Indiana Jones as well I guess I find it fascinating that He would rather like Indiana Jones is a static character, which isn't a problem really I mean he has arcs like little arcs, but compared to Han Solo who's quite dynamic It's kind of interesting that uh, he's not that interested in playing Han Solo seemingly The real question did the tuk tuk try spinning and was it a good trick? They did not do that Maybe they would have won immediately if they tried that They should have they definitely should have Watches nazis get vaporized hearts taken out while people are alive and magical healing cups But in now he's still skeptical There's a hard sell that line, wasn't it? It's like, yeah, that's a really hard sell I've seen weird things, but I don't believe in magic already. They get Okay. All right. You do though.     What do you mean? Like the his his review of ragnarok was awful.   He is your daily reminder that those people are actually out there They're not just a cartoon name that lefties call anyone who's to the right of them Those people actually do is not many of them. I don't think but they they are legit out there And they have an audience and it is like man. Wow. It's a bit of a wake-up call in a way Yeah, and I mean it's nice to get colds hyper leftist every once in a while anyway Here we go I'm telling you there was a day We're on the same website By two different people.  I mean it was a while ago But he's like, you know rags is a known leftist known What known? Everyone knows it.  All right.   We're efap is famous for adoring marvel true So that's really what we're known for I believe this is further evidence people in hollywood have no real life experiences i.e real suffering or failure or threats of death it limits their ability to tell stories compare old stories to now Um, it'd be curious to know Uh, like if if it is truly the life experiences or if it's simply like you read enough books Or if it's that you write enough and you can learn from your own sort of mistakes in writing You know, what's the key element to making a really good writer? Who knows exactly but It could be a combination of all of those to varying degrees At which point, I don't even know what to hone in on as like something that I would say get more life experience or Read more books.  Um, yeah, I mean, I'm pretty there are writers who are like pretty sheltered who've written good stuff It's got to have happened. Yeah. Well, I mean, I'll give an exact. I mean hp. Lovecraft That's actually I was thinking him as an example, but he was I mean he was he got out and about occasionally, right? Eventually, eventually. Um, but his mother was like actually crazy Um, and she kind of like in a way like abused him when he was young She was overprotective wouldn't let him go anywhere So he was kind of shut in always at home and that kind of stuck with him and eventually he did do about traveling, but Yeah, he did rather traveling, but he always went he went back to he was from providence, right? Something like that. I can't quite remember. Um, you know new england Yeah, he had like a wife or two and yeah, that was part of the you know issues that they had was his You know being sort of locked up and wanting to stay home Maybe one would argue that is why he was a successful writer is because all of his writing relates to those specific experiences Um, well, that's kind of the complication of the subject, isn't it? It depends on what kind of subject matter you're writing, right? Like if you are doing subject matter that really delves into like your own Consciousness subconscious your unconscious like that kind of deeply introspective contemplative kind of Uh, writing or creative expression. That's like well, that is, you know, that's its own thing that you can benefit from a lot of isolation in a sense I mean Vincent van Gogh wasn't like a very social guy either and look at all the stuff that he created It seems to me that like the capacity to observe things meaningfully and deeply is super useful So like even if somebody didn't have a lot of life experience if they're able to observe other people or the world in a way that's deep Uh Contemplative that that that in itself is useful. Plus, I mean, of course life experience doesn't necessarily make you good At conveying all of this through the the methods and means Of uh, whatever discipline you're doing, right? Having a lot of life experience doesn't mean that you have good like technique As a writer or an artist necessarily So there's always going to be some amount of practice and a lot of the time with creative stuff Practice is Lonely like it is it is a it is an exercise that one does on their own Yeah, and the reality is if you're gonna Write something funny you need to have familiarity with comedy if you want to write something let's say A law procedural show that you don't know anything about the law that Combine those two and you have what I wish he held because self admittedly No idea what they're doing and that's what you end up with Well something that uh, I know that you've said a lot rags But I mean your only your characters are only as smart as you are is an interesting statement It is an interesting statement. That's worth thinking about when it comes to writing It's yeah when it comes to things like cleverness and intelligence and wit those things are difficult to just You can't just tell me that a character is those things Like you can if they're like, oh the jimmy is fast sarah is you know strong things like that nature You can just write those to be the case But uh Yeah, it's a little bit a little bit more difficult to convince me that a character is you know intelligent or witty or clever or wise They could have used the Lazarus pit and recast indy and marion halfway through I don't know that would go over to the dc universe. I don't think people would like that like this Yeah, I don't know how that would play out. I don't know. Um depressing thought this is some of younger generations only exposure to indiana jones as a character Wouldn't be sad if they saw it and then they were like, I don't get the hype Hopefully they'll also see the uh, the massive negative reception that it got Harrison did most of his stunts in indy 4 unlike 5 Yeah, that's uh from what I'm familiar with. He did a lot more in indy 4 than a lot of people realize And how much could he do in 5 at this point without risking serious injury?  Ah seeth I assume they're talking about bia lady Who got over the people getting shot real quick That was so strange that whole that entire like thread of the plot seemed completely Like what why did that even that why did that whole thing exist? That was like an entire subplot of those characters that just It was just not at all necessary. I got flushed at like the halfway point on that random scene was like Yeah, they got killed on the plane and they're done. I'm like Oh, was that just to tell us that the bad guys are bad because I knew that Uh people made more vids talking about indy 4 than indy 5 Uh, maybe I don't I don't know about that. Is that true that was a feel like that's true I know that indy 5 I don't feel like that'd be true because more people are engaged in like, you know, youtube now than in 2008 Yeah, not to mention of course Is just this big cultural aspect of keeping an eye on films like that and talking about what they mean in meta I think more so than they was back then And then um, but I would agree that like indiana jones 5 Diala destiny, whatever it's it's it's moved out of being discussed like at all Pretty much very quickly. Obviously we still bringing up here and there is just an example of a thing that happened that proves the pattern, but that's about it Also say gandalf lines in oni's voice and saraman's lines in stelones Oh, that's interesting Damn it. I'm screwing it up. Hmm. I need to get in character Bilbo Baggins. I'm not trying to rob you. I'm trying to take me for a conjure. I I don't know what's happening I'm I can't do it. I keep going back to gandalf. Like he's he's infecting my ability to do the Yeah, that's pretty good. Uh, let me see here. Um Run you fools What is the Uh, let's see Well, that's a gandalf line, right? Saraman lines You have chosen And it's the saraman quotes. Let me look up some saraman now I'm just imagining Arnold Schwarzenegger spinning around on the floor and gandalf, you know, coat Oh, the better timeline Let's see um A lot of these are short. Let me see, uh Let's see Man, there's a lot of these from the hobbit too. He speaks. I think he might have more lines in the hobbit than he actually does in the Lord of the Rings Um You have that big. That's absurd. No such power exists in this world The decrepit sir is nothing more than a mortal man a conjurer dabbling in black magic I don't think he speaks that fast. I mean it's a load. I mean All right, let's see Yeah, a lot of these are really kind of short and everything And honestly, I think the the gandalf as Sylvester Stallone is sorry as uh, Arnold Schwarzenegger is pretty that one's pretty good. Mm-hmm Is it just me Or do a bearded Antonio Banderas look a lot like Pedro Pascal? Wow, I guess they all look alike.  No, that looked very different Um, are you dumbo's going to do coverage for across the spider-verse whatever your thoughts on it? I'd better make for good efap dvlc to play it Uh, if we're covering it, it'll be when the third one's out because there's way too many loose threads Uh, I also think it's not like there's not things to talk about But a lot of it will relate to how the story kind of gets resolved in what we learn in the next movie Yeah Oh, it seems as if the next movie is probably a ways away Probably Just graduated from college yesterday wanted to thank you all for providing me relief and peace throughout my four years When I first found more and have been subscribed since your first Channel it's been a crazy ride and I'm so very excited for the future Well, you should be Plenty of cool and amazing things are on the way and uh, I'm glad that we can be entertaining For you, but also congratulations on the graduation Good stuff. Yeah, absolutely. Good job. You graduated. You did it. Hooray. The future is just over there. Go and grab it Uh, and it's my birthday today. Well, happy birthday. Oh, happy birthday to you Isn't dial of destiny a great birthday present. Yay Get disney to buy cancer there by killing it Oh, that's a good strategy. They try to reboot cancer and it just fucks up and they completely ruin the lore of cancer Yeah, that's right. They disrespect the character Uh, maybe antonio put it in his contract. They couldn't use him to advertise. I don't know why that would Be the case. It's really strange that I had no clue. He was in the film though That was that was odd I think the first three worked because of the horror elements I really don't think that's the factor that makes them work or not I know the elements of little tinges of horror, which is really as far as they go are are neat But yeah, I don't think by any means those are Yeah I'm reading the John Carter books. They're real neat and quite humorous. It contextualizes what avatar does with pandora Also, everyone's nude everyone Nice, right. Oh, you've got my vote Uh, indiana jones and the suicide dial of Distitution I like it because it really rolls off the tongue, you know, yeah I know this could be a result of mpa rating standards But there is such a distinct lack of horror slash brutality in this film in comparison to the og films felt a bit tamer Yeah, I think that's fair. I mean, I think so, you know, it's hard to compare to get in the heart pulled out in all that Yeah, or you know donovan scrimble on up. Yep Hold my awesome milestone.  Oh, I thought they meant like an independent film But that was like that that's that that's what confused me for a moment there The the thumbnail is the funniest thing I've seen all year. Yeah, I put the indy hat on daughter of a wedding He's like super old I think that captures, you know I think that's very appropriate Illinois Jones and the insufferable horse face Yeah, see Illinois Jones. That's I like that Illinois Jones. Yeah, it's like a it's like the the the chinese You know knockoff translation Illinois Or just get the wrong state Wisconsin Jones Ohio Jones Michigan Jones Howdy massives I've been struggling recently with finding relationships What do I do when I find a gal who says captain marvel did nothing wrong Cruella is an excellent film. God of war is woke cringe, etc. Stay long and prosper What you found someone who thought god of war is woke, but the cruella is excellent and captain marvel did nothing wrong Well, you're not gonna have a boring relationship. I was gonna say this last sounds interesting. Just talk to her about all these opinions You know, yeah But I know she seems like a bit of a wild card. She might she might I don't know if you want to put a ring on that You never know Get to know further further exploration is required. Yeah Yeah, you got to show her lower the rings first See how that goes After indy 5 it broke my hope in modern film. I only have arcane to look forward to now knowing that will Be good storytelling. Hey, that's no guarantee, but also There are some things apparently the the Gran Turismo drink I was saying that's pretty solid Okay There's um interesting concept for a video game movie. Hmm I hear that twisted metal is entertaining So, you know, we got those two them gaming adaptations man. They're just flying out Yeah Harrison Ford is older than uncle albert and granddad where when they passed away in early fools and horses It was so cringy seeing the action in these movies this movie. Sorry Yeah, I mean It was just that's just like the fundamental reason to not make the film Late but um, you know what sometimes they feel like it's never too late Uh, I watched Raiders and the last crusade last night I've seen them thousands of times and they still never get old the only other movie I've watched more is Star Trek first contact Bring on mi7 Oh, this is before uh dead reckoning was out Hmm Hope you liked it. I guess Yeah, I hope you liked it Uh rewatched the first three indy films crusade is still a good book end crystal skull feels like dlc This movie was last of us two minus the sweet release from a golf club Sweet release I'm gonna say Commonly not the favorite part of last was to the golf club, but you know what I guess some people uh Some people might describe that part of the game as putrid, but you know They're trying to do a Wizard of Oz ending without the effort art or charm Uh, also, do we really know if indy survived? Maybe it's an inception ending. I'm putting too much thought into this, aren't I? Maybe he just did die and the rest of it was a hallucination Maybe you're the ones who are hallucinating Speaking of new IPs, did you masses hear that the og crispy critter atomic heart is coming out with some dlc any thoughts? I'm not really interested to see what that dlc is. Um, but you know, I guess I don't really have any strong thoughts on it That's not really something I plan to return to atomic heart was a strange game Okay, you're a strange game Moala just heard from veto that you're being forced to stream with your friends Blink twice if noderotic is forcing you to do real bbc That doesn't sound like something veto would say at all. Whatever. Do you mean? He's he's a good take machine. What are you talking about? I um Uh, I don't know if anyone knows real bbc was started without me It was a good old as doing it regularly and then noderotic joined him And then I offered to join them because um, they're my friends just like these two are my friends Ah, I think you're just chasing clout That is actually why I didn't set up efap. I was like guys I get that clout got to go clout mode Clout goblin. That's what uh, a sound called him, right? That's what Little clout living under the bridge trying to grab clout or that's trolls clout trolls and clout goblins are different things Uh Hey, fringy. Thanks so much for the jar jar impression. You made my week with it Yeah, my car. Remember, uh What that was really good. It was excellent. It was really good. Yeah Okay, the question will we ever get official lore about your goo? Maybe Hmm. Oh But uh, will it be like in a book or is it gonna be something online? I said maybe Why why wouldn't that mean there's an answer to my question I haven't figured that out. Yeah. Oh, okay. That's okay. Yeah, sure. You know I got a wick mate who's gonna watch barbie and arvin hymer back to back Yeah, apparently a lot of people did Which is interesting experience video Uh, they said spud's maca- the spud's mackenzie was the poo posh pooch of pop culture But can he measure up to rags? I'm not posh A posh pooch of pop culture I'm a pooch of pop culture. I suppose but I'm not posh I've never been posh. I'd have remarketed myself as being posh Well, if you start talking like this It's more Hello there. I'm the posh pooch of pop culture Evening gentlemen. Yes, of course.   There's even no reason at all. No reason. Yeah, that nothing happens Yeah, I'm not saying federal agents or angels or anything, but like come on guys. Well, what's happening here? What are we doing? Streamlabs. Yep. Streamlabs got they were attached actually to the big Catch-up episode that was like four hours long. So find that there But uh, we'll we hit them every once in a while alongside one of these sort of episodes And final message This particular stream a cocktail or hinkus the permean pinhead This is their extinct animal of the day All right. How does this fellow look?  There you go. Oh my goodness gracious Like him a lot. He's like a turtle without a shell. Oh my gosh. He really is. Yeah I love him. Look at his smile. He's got a fun goofy looking smile. I feel like he's like I was about to say I feel like he's like Hi there Oh, I love I sure do love swimming if that's what I do. I sure do love walking around on the floor here What are you gonna do today? Oh, nothing really just enjoy myself Like have a good day I'm so glad that I've been introduced to this fella Well, he's extinct, but you know what not extinct in our hearts Yep Um, yeah, and so that's it. So thank you all for listening. Oh my god. Those are two hour one damn Really? Wow time flies when you're having fun. We we did get talking about a bunch of things It was noise and fun, but hopefully yes, that's You having a good day too listener out there and uh, we'll see you and whatever it is that next we see you in But for now Bye. Bye. Good. Bye everybody. Everybody. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. See you later