time for news update. Good morning Donald Kavanagh. Thank you Greg. Good morning. A dunigold senator believes the UK government will not progress with the Northern Ireland protocol bill until controversial legislation dealing with legacy issues is passed. Senator Nioblini, Fina Falls, Shannon spokesperson on Northern Ireland was in Belfast this week for a series of meetings. He says things aren't progressing as they should. He says a lot more engagement is required to resolve issues and while the British government is making the right mood music it's not backing it up with action he says. The HSC says it's concerned by the number of health care workers who've yet to receive their second COVID-19 booster. The latest data shows three quarters of staff around the country seven hospital groups haven't yet got their second dose. CSO figures this week in the general community show some of the state's lowest second booster uptake levels were in Dunigold. CEO of the HSC, Stephen Mulvaney, he's in that position on an interim basis. He says the situation regarding health care workers does need to be explored. The piece we're probably most concerned about is health care workers and particularly health care workers vaccination levels for COVID. While we vaccinated something like 70,000 I think health care workers at this stage based on what we call the co-vax data that's from a population of health care workers declared during the actual COVID crisis over 290,000 whereas we have more like half of that in the system. I've been on individual sites who would say their levels are north of 70% which would be very good so it varies. A West Dunigold councillor says the local improvement scheme is not fit for purpose and needs to be enhanced to meet the needs of communities in the area. Councillor Johnny Hema Shofari says it's no surprise that recent NCT figures show the test centre in Derrybeg had the lowest pass rate of any centre in the country last year. He says with so many cars in West Dunigold travelling on roads that aren't up to scratch, that was to be expected. Councillor Shofari wants Dunigold County council and the government to explore further funding opportunities for road improvements. All you need to do is just check last week on the figures that were talked about on the national airways regarding the Derrybeg centre here in West Dunigold at a rural area and the roads are not up to scratch. That is due to the lack of investment by government down through the years. There's an LIF scheme there at the moment which I don't think is fit for purpose. The criteria they're using that plenty of roads in West Dunigold and Shure and Dunigold that they might have 20 houses on and how are they going to get their road fixed? Only 41 properties were available last month under the housing assistance payment scheme which sees landlords receive part rental payment from the state. The Simon Communities Ireland report shows just 23 of the HAP properties were in Dublin with none available in Athlone, Cork City, Galway City, Sligo or Limerick City. Wayne Stanley of Simon Communities Ireland says the figures are worrying with the moratorium on rental evictions ceasing at the end of March. If we can achieve things over the next 12 weeks if we can see allocations increases to people in homelessness and we can see those numbers coming down if we can see real action on the modular build on vacancy on dealing with the dereliction in our towns and cities and those brought into the public housing system I think we'll be in a better space if we're not and if we're standing still I'd be really concerned about what's going to happen in April. 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across our Facebook pages and directly on our website okay so hopefully whichever way you choose to stay with us you do so let's introduce our panel for this Friday morning we'll say good morning first i think to Chancellor Michael McBride independent Chancellor in the letter Kenny Milford near the district unfortunately good morning to you uh fortunately i don't know what happened there what kicked in there but anyway good morning to you Michael i can't hear you i don't know if you're muted or yeah you are muted of course Friday the 13th breed are you there for me save me morning everybody good morning Chancellor Michael McBride also uh breed Corrin's list of regular guests on this item as well good morning breed good morning how are you good and great to hear you as well and last but not least senator Paulino Riley if the Green Party good morning senator good morning Greg great to have you with us okay i'll start with you if that's all right Chancellor McBride um we were talking yesterday on the program it was highlighted at a recent uh municipal district meeting not yours uh that people are not living in their allocated council properties in some cases they're renting them out on Airbnb so what's happening is is people have been uh have uh given a social house through the council um the example was given yesterday that maybe they have a partner now and they've moved in with them they're uh either the properties lying empty or as I say we actually have cases of where the property ended up on Airbnb um Chancellor Michael McBride I don't think this is anything new is it I think maybe things like this are coming more into focus because of the housing shortage what's your opinion if you come across this yourself for example um Greg to be honest with you um my own opinion on it is that it's not acceptable and to thank that anybody that would have a house from the local authority that would be uh renting it out for Airbnb that's unbelievable especially you know what like you say with the house housing crisis that we've got at the minute so um just been very frank about it I just be totally uh against that happen and I think it's unacceptable do you think it's happening much I don't I don't think it's widespread but look um you know I I can't speak for the general public you know what I mean for everybody out there but at something that I don't think it's going on on a wide scale basis if it is it's not um I'm not aware of it myself you know but again like should you not be aware of it I mean if it is if it is not if it is happening or isn't happening uh as a local representative who I'm sure there's lots of people on to you uh seeking uh you know seeking a property should you not know uh whether it's happening or not or how widespread it is or not or if you shouldn't if you don't know surely those in charge of housing in your municipal district area you should know well I would agree with that you know if it has gone on uh as a most you know the problem is the council really don't have the manpower for to go out and check house by house and what's happening and um you know suppose at one time you had rate collectors going out and stuff like that you know they would have been able to keep on top of all those things um that no longer happens but um look as I say um I'd be totally against that happening and um I think if it is happening then where it is happening the council should completely clamp down on it. Yep Senator Pauline O'Reilly what do you think? Yeah look I think I think that the reality is that the councils haven't been keeping on top of Airbnb full stop um and whether it is or it isn't widespread about it happening in social housing I think we all know that it's widespread that and there are a lot of things being rented out on Airbnb and they're not getting the proper planning for that um and it's something I've raised consistently over the last number of years and it's particularly an issue for us in the west and the northwest um where we have a lot of homes that are you know they're tourist properties or there are summer houses and we have people who want to come and stay in our cities and in our towns and actually we also see the hollowing out then of town centres as a result of this Airbnb so um what what we've done is to say it should be board fulcher who who are on top of what's happening in the tourist industry they should be the ones rather than the local authorities who as Michael said maybe so they don't have manpower maybe it's that there isn't the will there I don't know but it's been a problem for years so board fulcher being given that responsibility and there's legislation going through at the moment which will mean that they will have to um check out and people will have to register with board fulcher their Airbnb's and if they're not registered they're not Airbnb yeah and I think that would address that would address maybe the more you know unique headlining case whereby someone is not in their uh not in their council house let's call it that and they're putting it on Airbnb but I would say what is a more widespread issue is people who um were given a a a council house their situation has changed maybe they've moved in with someone or whatever it is and that their their edge in their bets and they're not handing the key back they're not in that property uh but they still are a key holder do you think that is something that council needs to actively pursue to to ensure that's not happening so that those waiting for years on the waiting list have an opportunity I mean I don't want to single out one group of people because as I say I think we're not singing out a group of people we're singing out a group of housing I mean we can't put a foot around the senator you're gonna have to you can't not offend anybody do you know we're talking it doesn't matter of the background it's not financial racial status class this is just people that are being given a social house but in some cases they're not living in it they're living somewhere else but they're what but what I'm pointing out to you is that it's happening on a wide scale basis across all types of housing and that's what needs to be addressed and because if something is a so if it's if it's a social house you know if it's social housing and it's going up on air b&b it's wrong okay if it's if it's if it's any other type of house it's going up on air b&b and they don't have planning it's also wrong and it all needs to be addressed and I I don't think addressing one is going to solve the problem I think it all has to be addressed and that's why I think that board fault you need to have a proper role in it because the councils clearly aren't doing it and actually whether it's a social house or not the the council is supposed to address it and is supposed to enforce it if people are operating an air b&b or some kind of a tourist and accommodation through a house where they don't have proper planning and the council's clearly not doing that understood breed current what's your views in my opinion Greg this is all about housing need and and regardless of whether they've been let out in air b&b or whatever they're doing there there are vacant houses unbelievably there are over 166,000 vacant houses in this country in a country where we are now in the midst of probably one of the greatest housing crisis that we've we've known in modern history and I live and go away work in Rescamon and about two years ago one of the council and employees and planning made contact with me she was doing she was in part to do a census of vacant houses in the Rescamon town area and she came and met me and she was literally going through all the various houses around the area wondering whether they were vacant or not and I thought that was a very useful exercise at the time and it's a case of manpower if there is an issue with manpower manpower in the councils needs to be assigned to these tasks because it's saving money in the long run and if there's a vacant house for whatever reason it needs to be turned around and made available for someone who is on a housing list regardless of whether it's rented out for Airbnb or otherwise yeah call us as these houses and not houses for life they're stepping stones until you can get back on your feet I think it should be reviewed every five years to open up to open up to move on families who are ready to enter the private sector and of course then there are options to buy these properties and what have you is that something Michael McBride you think there should be a review every five years these aren't houses for life believes one listener that'd probably be a very good idea I never really thought about it Greg to be honest about it but you know anytime if you can take something like that on any of the government programs and review them I think that's always healthy you know to stay on top of what's happening out there and I might fully support that all right thank you very much for that any views on that 08 660 25 000 give us a call on 07 491 25 000 I wanted to talk about this last week because I think it's not an insignificant issue but time ran out so I'd be very interested in your views on this rates the minimum wage hourly rate of pay went up in January 2023 to 11 30 it's widely reported that it's went up to 11 30 but that's if you're 20 and over if you are aged 18 it's nine euro and four cent 80 percent of what a 20 year old plus would get if you're aged 19 it's 10 year own 17 cent and then as I say aged 20 and over it's 11 30 and many would feel that's much lower than where it needs to be I'll start with you on this one if that's all right senator what is the how can there be any justification for treating an 18 year old adult different to a 20 year old adult I wonder as if in some way rent is cheaper for them owning a car is cheaper for them feeding a child is cheaper for them is do you understand that this logic I mean I think it's questionable personally you know I mean in our party we would believe that 16 year olds should be voting for instance and if you are and you know if you were saying that people have responsibility that they're adults and or at least that they're decision makers then I do think they needed to be treated need to be treated with the same respect I suppose part of the explanation is that most people but by no means everyone are living at home most 28 year olds are living at home now well well there is that yeah of course and you know that maybe they don't have the same and kind of outgoings but I don't think that it really is for someone else to make that decision as to how many outgoings you have you could be 20 and as you say you could be 28 and have different kind of outgoings and I think that there needs to be something else that takes account of that and for instance you know family support payments and so on if you are earning below a certain amount which the state does give and now I have to say that it is an independent body that looks and makes recommendations. Is anything really independent Senator? Well I mean it is it is independent and and I do think it's a very very welcome move to have the the rates increased and overall I do think that a lot of people are happy with that that their rates have increased but I personally think that we need to look again at whether it it is just that you do the same work and you get different pay and part of the issue there of course is that you'll find employers then employing people who are younger because they have to they don't have to pay. And what a way though to start to set people off in their life though do you know what I mean turn 18 maybe they didn't go to college or university they just want to get straight into the workforce and lots of people do do that and for two years you're treated lesser than someone working next to you and and I always think businesses make the big mistake if you reward people that potentially are underperforming that always I think those that try their best and try harder if they're not if they're rewarded equally you know they will come down to the level of the the worst employee breeds what again I can't I can't see any justification for this no one's going to convince me that this is right it's old fashioned and it's outdated I'm the proud owner of an 18-year-old but for the last two years that's one way but let me tell you my wallet knows all about it yeah um for the last two years she's had a summer job working in a local shop and while it's been a really really valuable experience for her learning how to deal with people and deal with the public she's been on a lower wage but doing exactly the same job as those who are over 18 and while she when I get on my high horse and say that I thought it was unfair she used to say to me you know well it is what it is and she's very accepting of all that but it's it's just really old fashioned it's outdated we have to start respecting our younger people a little bit more than that there is that assumption that younger people are subsidized by their parents of course I'm probably going to be looking after my lady when she's in her 30s and I'm in my 70s and 80s but um very brave breeze very brave I should not listen to you oh okay that's all right and and it's just so outdated it was the the wage commission and it was a relatively recent decision that we would treat our younger people 16 17 18 year olds 19 20 and and and then giving them an adult wage when they reach their 20s it's a relatively recent decision but it's wrong it's outdated has to change yeah I think so when I just I mean it's just again it's a it's another situation where young people will feel disenfranchised or that this country is not for them and now what happens is young people may feel like that and now what we have really is older people are being made to feel like there's a problem I just don't understand why society is set up like this Councillor Michael McBride instead of our young people we're telling them that they're not worth as much as those who happen to be two or three years older than them or maybe they're in college you know maybe the ones that have gone on to college and university you know and you decide to start working well maybe it's a punishment for not furthering your education or something you know I don't know what the psychology might be or how people might receive it but it could feel like that uh Councillor Michael McBride can you defend this not that it's your not that it's for you to defend I think you know if you look at it here in Ireland when you when you reach 18 years old you're allowed to vote you're allowed to legally have a drink and a public premises I think that's when you become of age and in my opinion you know I think that it's probably causing young people to leave Ireland the cost of living crisis here you know we're all very aware of it and there's nobody can live in that kind of a wage anymore they're forcing the young people to stay at home and live with their mother and father and I don't think that's a healthy thing for people who are out working a full time job I think they should be moving out making their own way in life and it's unbelievable to see how many young people have left this country and went to Australia and Canada and such places over the last number of years and this is certainly one of the factors they're not able to afford to live in Ireland anymore or if they do work stay here to work they work all week they have no surplus income and I believe at its pushing a lot of our skilled trades people away from our shores and we never needed these young people moving we do at the moment you know we've we've we've anybody it's an industry or in business I'll tell you that it's so difficult to you know to get people to work and if you get an 18 or 19 10 year old that'll come in follow beans and they want to give you a good honest weeks work and give them an honest weeks pay for it yeah that's what I was gonna say because this is the minimum wage employers are perfect within the rights to pay the whatever they think they're worth or whatever they think is fair as well I think that's correct you know when I'll tell you if you get a young young people into into any business to work now I think there's a lot of the people that are employing them if they see you that they're you know that they have the skills that they need they're probably prepared to pay them more than that but you know I think that there's some other people's look to want to pay at the bottom end of the scale all the time maybe the businesses at the the trades that they're in or businesses that are in maybe that's the nature of them that they do pay at the lower end of the scale but you know from what I've seen out there the brain drain and the skills drain is a big big problem and it's something I would like to see stopped you know because we really do need these people to stay in our country the industry needs them you know the construction business needs them we were just so tight on trades people and I think it's just I think it's just so so sad to see them all leaving and head to Australia because if you talk to them they'll tell you that they've a much better standard living uh and in places like Australia and Canada they can work they can socialize they can save money and a lot of them are coming home you know after a number of years and buying houses and stuff if they're staying here they just absolutely couldn't afford them but now a lot of them aren't coming home because they can't afford a house or the snow house available or it's they can't get car insurance or and then you know there's loads of reasons as to as as to why they might not but Pauline I think in this country not just on this you this issue but in many countries sorry on many issues we tend to talk about what's happening now what's happening in the past like the kind of conversation we're having having now in four or five or six years the CSO will will release a batch of statistics that will show what will happen between now and then you know lots and lots of people leaving the country shortages in certain areas and so on and so forth I just wish we could be a little bit more proactive and and say you know what these people are very valuable not just now to us but let's let's not even treat them as humans right they're very valuable to the economy and we need them here I'm not saying that's the way we should view them but you know I think that's how we should be treating people with the worth and what they have to offer down the line rather than saying you know what your worth your worth nine your own four cent an hour if you want to go to Australia head off Pauline and if I were a young person I think that's how might I might feel yeah I mean I and I also think you made a very valid point earlier Greg about you know older people I mean if we were to turn around and say once you hit a certain age then we're going to change change your wage as well and reduce it and that would be shocking to us I do think that there's a there's an overall you know there's a there's a sense of ageism here at play and and it's not right and I think again Michael is correct people leave the country we know that they're leaving the country and they're moving out of areas like the west in particular and young people and we are left with older people and that's not good for a society we have to have a mix and that means that we have to treat everybody with respect and I don't think that that is happening when we look at the wages certainly now we have the highest level of employment ever in the country and so you know in some respects you could say that it is an employees market and businesses are paying higher rates that you know for the most part that minimum wage in order to get people particularly in some of the service industries where and they're struggling to get people to work so you know there is that factor at play as well and so not everybody is on the minimum wage but when it comes to this issue the minimum wage I just don't think it's the right approach yeah and before we move on I call us as what about the wage of the 16 and 17 year olds it's terrible yep that's 791 per hour the reason I sort of didn't include that in this conversation is because 18 19 and 20 year olds are all adults you know and maybe you could make an argument that you know someone in their teens can be treated a little bit different but yep maybe 791 for the work they're doing in retail or if it's the same work you know at the same quality then it should deserve the same the same wage because in the end of the day it's the same people paying them and so I don't see any difference personally now you could say that some people are almost like they're on their apprenticeship but they're not official apprenticeship programs so that I don't think that argument stacks up either a listener says I want to take a constitutional challenge actually if there's an 18 or a 19 year old there I'd love to take a constitutional challenge in relation to the legitimacy of this and the constitution. Well can I ask you while you're on while you're on that issue because it's been no one no one takes me on on this but I get contacted by young people quite regularly breed who are refused entry to premises license premises they're 18 or 19 it's on an ad hoc basis dependent how busy it is or not they'd say it's over 20 they're told it's over 20s tonight or over 21 tonight that is a different issue Greg in that when you have a licensed premises it's entirely within your remit to either admit or so you can allow someone you can you can refuse someone access to your premises based solely on their age no not based solely on their age but I mean it's still within the whereas I wouldn't fancy taking a constitutional challenge to the high court in relation to the point that you're making whereas in relation to the minimum wage for 18 19 and 20 year olds or 18 and 19 year olds I would certainly fancy a shot at that yeah and that I think it's clearly unconstitutional that you cannot define and the worth of somebody's work simply based on the date on which they were born and why hasn't that been done yet well somebody needs to instruct a solicitor and a barrister to take that case I call us this hi Greg I have three kids and every sunday at the dinner table I keep telling them to get the hell out of this country on and just finished Greg big time thanks doesn't sound like a fun sunday dinner to me I'd be I'd be hiding their passports personally but I suppose you know that's a parent or parents there that perhaps maybe they think the grass is greener on the other side and they'll grow as people and travel and experience life I mean Michael McBride there's always going to be a element of of young people that regardless of the status of this country that they're going to want to explore and what have you the problem is it's many people emigrating now feel they've no choice I would agree with you Greg you know what I mean and it's not always a bad thing you know that people emigrate and get a look around them as opposed I was one of them people myself in the mid 80s when I finished up on college and there wasn't much work around here and I had an opportunity to go to the United States sold out there and spent eight years in it you know you gain great experience in it and it was my choice to come home some other people decided to stay in the States and some of them have never been home they're not able to you know travel home but there will be classes undocumented it doesn't just work out good for everybody either you know you come you have a lot of people that fall on this you know it fall in high times when they're away and stuff like that too but as opposed that's just such as life but at the same time you know I think you know people that go away and come back you know they come back with good ideas with them and they become entrepreneurs and drivers of the economy and it's not all bad you know but at the same time I think it's when it's a choice though yeah it's when it's a choice I think that's the a caller says it's experience based Greg younger people don't have the experience that they need to work the two years to earn the full right now welding maybe plumbing electricity hairdressing perhaps maybe I could see the argument there but why start at why would it start at 18 and 19 you could say the same then for a 20 21 year old 25 26 year old if they're just starting a new career but I so I don't I don't I really appreciate the comments but I don't get the point as such I don't agree with it might as well just put it like that all right we'll be back with more from our guests you're listening to senator Pauline O'Reilly of the Green Party councillor Michael McBride who's an independent and Breed Curran who's simply a solicitor not involved in politics they're our guests and we'll be back with more of their wisdom after we take these messages we at Highland Radio love Irish music and as part of Irish Music Month on 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letterkennycu.ie all right we had the agriculture minister charlie mcconnellog on this program don't want to misquote him but we were asking him about this deal with a british investment fund that quiltshire was looking to do he didn't really put his cards on the table as to whether or not he was in favour or against it but his boss has tarnished a mehal march and wants to explore alternatives rather than selling land to a british investment fund in order to help meet arlands climate targets it comes after uh it was revealed that thousands of acres of rural arlands will be sold to the gresham house fund as part of a a forestation deal with semi-state agency quiltshire the plans have been met with a backlash from rural tds among concerns that farmers could be priced out of buying land and now the finafore leader has called for a review of the process and said other models should be explored right i mean quiltshire are making the argument senator paulino riley that you know they need outside money if we are going to meet uh 2015 targets that being said looking at their accounts for the last couple of years they seem really quite well resourced quiltshire i mean we can understand where they're trying to get to but what do you think of this approach that now the tarnished assays might need a bit of a review well look if we're going to get to where we need to you know and this is on a global scale in terms of climate and biodiversity we absolutely need both public and private investment now the reports were incorrect in the first place um it's nothing like the amount of land that was being quoted at the start um but it certainly involves some land but you know there is 1.3 billion euro there and that is for farmers primarily and quiltshire can't access any of that funding now if a farmer wants to send sell their land to quiltshire even if that's you know another investor investing in it that's a matter for the farmer um i would argue and um but the majority of that money the 1.3 billion is going to farmers because they're the largest landholders in the state and ultimately what we're trying to get to is a lot more forestry cover cover for Ireland and as i say that's going to be a mix but once the once the land is covered in forestry it can't it can't be undone if you know what i mean so um what we want to get to is that we have a lot more forestry and quilt is part of that but in fact it has only been a small part of that it's not doing um the job that that it should be doing because it doesn't have the investment potential that um that others have because it can't avail of any grants which um which is correct as well but that's under EU law that it can't avail of that 1.3 billion so look that that's where things are um of course there's never any problem with having a look at things again to make sure that nobody is going to be ridden roughshod over over um i think ultimately we want to make sure that farmers are paid a proper amount of money that they can make a living regardless of what it's in whether it's in forestry whether it's in any other kind of farming and let's be honest that hasn't happened up to now um in some parts of farming and so this massive investment which has never as i said happened before is to try and redress that for farmers and it was welcomed by the farming community initially because they thought that was it now uh do you have any issue if it is uh you know i mean this is a investment fund that are looking for a return for their investors pension you know in terms of pensions and what have you do you have an issue with outside money being brought in to purchase irish land it as i say it's only a very small part and and that's the that's the reality when it's when it's private investment it's going to come from a you know a mix of sources um and we're automatically you know thinking well if something is is coming from a pension fund it's necessarily bad it's not necessarily bad but we do need regardless of whether that be you know in renewables whether that be in any kind of investment in Ireland in jobs it's not all going the only thing is is that what i don't understand is quilts have quite a lot of money of their own there's probably quite a lot of private money around in Ireland and yet this deals expose where quilts is doing a deal with a British investment firm that obviously are looking for a somewhat guaranteed return in their investment it just that how we all arrived at that for me you know was interesting and would require uh more explanation personally speaking well well i and i don't think there's any issue with having a look at it to make sure that it is all above board but uh you know quilts are saying they don't have enough money um and if that's not the case then that's not the case but um it requires a massive investment something like this in forestry hence the 1.3 billion which is primarily for farmers okay 1.3 billion is a huge amount and quilts doesn't have anything like that amount um but but again the amount of land here we're talking about isn't massive in the in the grand scheme of things it certainly isn't the not an awful lot of land changes yeah but not an awful lot of land changes hands so if if even the parcel that we're talking of here changes hands at a higher price then it does it does have an impact on it i don't think we are talking about a higher price though you know we're talking about things being on an open market and investors whether they're private irish or they're not um a farmers entitled to sell their land to who they want to sell their land to and and and as i say it's not so much money in the market that's going to shift the the cost of the land it just enables quilts to to buy some land in order to do the job that it's supposed to be doing which is to be providing more forestry cover and a variety of types of forestry cover and that's what the new forestry plan is there have been massive problems in the past with the wrong type of tree in the wrong place too close to waterways and that is completely you know ruled out under this new forestry plan okay breed coran your views my understanding was that quiche have in their plan uh with regards to meeting their climate targets have agreed or have set the target of planting 247 000 acres by 2050 which is an area larger than county dublin and to me it's simply to meet their climate action targets but we need to look at the price of that what price are we paying for quiche hitting those targets your rent and a lot of this land is marginal land and but what you're doing is you're rendering this land useless because once it's planted it's planted that's it you cannot go back you can't restore it back to the way it was or you can't uh do anything other than forestry with it and i'm just wondering is this a coal by another name is this a suckler beef and sheep coal uh rendering land useless uh and i think it's the best thing that's having tree tree is not used anyway i'm sorry pauline you please don't interrupt me when i'm trying to make a point and and and that's the thing that concerns me most in relation to all of this i mean i have personal experience of trying to get uh planning permission to plant marginal land it took two years for the planning process quite a bit of money uh and in the end we only got planning permission for part of those lands uh so i wish the Gresham house fund and quiche a look in negotiating the Irish planning system for a start maybe you're too honest in your planning application concerns about breed were you too honest in your planning application perhaps i was i said that i live next door and and what i wanted to plant was native Irish trees i didn't want to plant Seacus bruce i wanted to plant native Irish trees and i was told after two years yes you can but not where you want to plant it and we want to reduce the area of the land that you wanted to plant but before we bring my plan i think i wish Gresham good luck with the planning system okay before we bring my clinic pauline i think you wanted to make the point yeah i just and i didn't i didn't mean to yeah i didn't mean to interrupt it's just i do feel quite passionately and obviously breached you do as well if you wanted to plant native native um forestry that a tree is not you know planting forestry isn't rendering land useless it's actually very very useful and that's why i think it's really important that we have forestry for timber for building so that we can eliminate some of the cement out of the system but also worthless for farming but but well with respect i think it is a farmers a farmer can make a decision as to whether they want to plant their land and nobody's going to be forced to do it so that's really important in this i don't want the message to go out there that people you know wouldn't have the choice some farmers do want to plant forestry and there have been massive difficulties in getting planning to do that and and this is to address that now i understand that that um that we should do have a huge target to meet but this amount of land is is really very small um that they're going to be purchasing because they do have quite a bit of land already so it's it's not going to it's going to be a very very small well yeah hopefully that's absolute clarity over how much land will come out because i think we can only really have a proper debate a breed is quoting exactly what i heard as well planting an area the size of Dublin and then you're saying it's it's a slither effectively it's well i can give you the figures that i have greg if it's helpful and that is seven just over seven thousand a year how big is that compared to no more than thirty thousand yeah i don't know what that means to account to well well the it's certainly minuscule compared to the two hundred and x amount of thousand that's being quoted at maximum thirty over the lifetime and well there's not there that there's not in their plans they have said by 2050 they want to have planted 247 thousand acres of land i mean there's enough here that tarnish to me hall martin has interjected on it anyway in that jolly mccunlough is meeting quilts so it's not it's clearly not a half an acre or anything michael mcbride to the point though does it matter should we not be maybe so broke or does it matter that uh that where the money's coming from it has to be planted it seems to be the issue here is is that it's a british investment fund that is uh that is um that is investing well there's most greg you kind of touched on a point that i was just going to raise you know um and recent history in ireland hedge funds have been more associated with buying up um property distressed property of banks at maybe 25 and 30 cent on the euro and um these are properties that people like myself and yourself wouldn't even get a look on if i tried to buy them so i think you know there's a very negative um people have a negative view of hedge funds coming in to do anything at the moment and um my own opinion on it is i think you know i would like to see a lot more um hardwood trees native iris trees planted in this country and um i think myself you know um rather than get in and hedge funds buying massive swathes of land i think there's a lot of land out there that farmers own um the typically most of the farms that we know that have got you know an amount of arable land and an amount and an amount of marginal land on it i think we should be looking at the marginal and i think there is this that there is that 1.3 billion for it but as breed pointed out you can have the best of intention but when you start to take on the planning uh uh the planning authorities you know you know your enthusiasm can be very quickly dashed well you know there has been programs in the past there where culture have dealt directly with landowners you know one have one been in um forestry and i know where there's several of the matter and i seem to be a program that worked quite well a lot of them trees are coming close to maturity now but there's one point to do want to bring up on this Greg and i've been watching it carefully for a long time um this last 20 years culture have been harvesting a lot of timber and we see it right left and south around the county in Donegal but you know what what what what what i wonder about us i don't see them reforest in an effort you know they're not you go up in your eye and have a look at it you go back out there the back of glen vey heading down to don louis they're they're harvesting down there they're harvesting all over the place they're done about in drum king but i haven't seen them in reforest and again so why not reforest the lands that we already have i think that'd be a i think that'd be a a large amount of hectares something there i think that'd be a good question for us to put into culture to ask what the plan is for for these uh blocks of land that have been harvested are they going to be replanted they might say well we have to clear it completely before we start the process again i don't know but listen i think it's a really valid question and and one you'll probably look at yourself but we'll certainly try and get some answers to okay listen really interesting views as always from breed corn senator pauline orally and we're hearing from councillor mcbride as well we'll be back with more from them but let's take a quick break cutting through the spin the nine till noon show on highland radio the nine till noon show with letter kenny credit union simplify your debts with a debt consolidation loan from letter kenny credit union call us on zero seven four nine one zero two one two six or apply online via our app or in office today on this week's business matters i'll be joined by finn valley ac team leader patsy mcgonagall so join me and keir newtonal for business matters on sunday evening after the six o'clock news the business matters 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late afternoon and evening fresh and gusty westerly winds will also ease for a time in the afternoon before backing southwest lean freshening again in the evening highest afternoon temperatures of five to eight degrees and almost every time i read a weather forecast where it talks about poor weather spreading from the northwest i am minded of the former councillor who threatened to sue meteran for damaging the tourist industry up here i'm not sure how that would have succeeded breed i wouldn't fancy my chances on that one greg all right um greg breed is spot on it's cow calling by another name farmers were born to grow food stuff and rare animals not to plant trees another there's two species of beetles eating conifers in germany in the u.s nobody in the right mind would invest in conifer plantations once sold the next would be mining another it's ridiculous that land is being taken out of the hands of irish people who pay taxes good morning greg they talk about planting trees like they will be fully grown next year and we'll all get to enjoy them it'll be 30 years or more but i suppose the target is uh 2015 and uh i'm sure pauline you'd be of the i mean we have to start somewhere we can't i mean obviously it takes a long time for certain trees to grow but i mean if if we have these goals you have to start some point these grants these grants are over decades you know so it's not a case of a farmer's being given money and then next week the the uh rogue is being pulled from under them and as i say it's entirely up to the farmer if they want to do it or not and i don't think that we should be micro managing farmers and saying that they can or they can't plant trees but what we do have a new policy and we have you know taken hold of a backlog which was ridiculous backlog of over 6000 when we got into government and now it's down to um about 1000 so it's not eliminated entirely but huge strides have been made and even if people now want to plant conifers and it has to be in the right place they can't plant it if it's not and there needs to be an amount of deciduous wood an amount of um natural native hardwood within that mix and it's absolutely not acceptable for um the you know taking out huge swathes of forestry and natural planting and certainly isn't under the new plans and so that i think absolutely if that is happening needs to be investigated well they need to say there might be a logical explanation um but it's the only way we find that out is by the likes of michael raising these points for some reason the government has rejected suggestions that fresh assurances should be sought for ministers that all of their property interests and declarations are in order it comes after finagle td damean english became the second junior minister to resign in less than six months over issues related to property interests both uh t shock leo of ride car and tarnish to me home martin said mr english had made the right decision to leave uh ministerial office now it has to be said as well by the way the paper i'm holding the irish times nor the irish independent nor rte nor any of the other papers or media have exposed this it's two former journalists one of them actually from south von igal that have been working on issues like this and have brought it to the public's attention held ministers to account to ensure they live by the same rules that we are one of them has resigned and and the other had some explaining to do so fair play to them is what i'm saying and i think it shows the established media up if i'm completely honest with you um uh breed corrin uh why would the government resist sort of an audit of properties owned by ministers i mean they are legislators two have already been found out to have made mistakes let me put it like that let's get all our cards on the table if there's nothing to hide rubber troy and before christmas and now damean english and yes i mean trying to wipe it all under the carpet and say there's nothing nothing to see here nothing to see here it seems to me very very foolish it seems to be that you know a root and branch investigation of these issues would would certainly quell the uneasiness uh that people in general are having with the body politic at the moment and it's it's more important than ever that we trust politicians because we're hearing you know all sorts of voices on social media particularly in relation to the current immigration crisis and and the ukrainian refugee housing crisis and it's so important that our politicians stand up and say you know we make the rules but we also live by the rules and and work work and operate within the rules because people are just getting very very uneasy and it's a politician's job uh to reassure the public that they have our best interests at heart so i can't see any reason for refusing such an investigation yeah and especially when ministers like minister anglish have stood up in the door during debates and made comments about people's interaction with the planning process and the need for honesty there i just wonder if that trust that you talk of has been lost irreparably now to some point no i don't i think it's in peaks and troughs i mean if you look at at at history um i was reading a really really interesting book recently about the aftermath of the spanish flu pandemic after the first world war and it seems that history is just repeating itself the breakdown of after that that pandemic and their version of lockdown and we had the rise of the right we had hitler coming into power and all those horrible ominous signs are happening again we just have a breakdown at the moment of of trust and and it's our politicians who have to regain that trust and and and be seen to be obeying the rules that they actually i don't know where this hour has gone it is absolutely flown by so we only have a minute each michael um i mean in the interests of i think public trust the government should should should listen to opposition demands and let's get our cards on the table from the ministers yes most you know as a as a counselor myself and all politicians you have to put on a declaration declaration annually oh no they do too but you have to make sure everything's declared yeah that's the thing about it you know and i just wonder why people just you know don't put her down honestly you know i don't know exactly what they have because um i don't think there's any any problem with it as long as you're doing everything above board and if you're not then you deserve to be taken to hell for it right Pauline um Pauline O'Reilly senator what's your view yeah well as michael said i mean we do all of us councillor senator td minister everybody has to put in returns every year and they have to have those sworn um and so i don't understand why somebody would be dishonest um and that was clearly what happened uh in this case and in the previous case um i think the correct course of action was taken to resign but um if they didn't resign i think they'd have to be removed from their position as minister because it is really important that we have um ethical standards because it reflects badly on all of us pauline i don't think that's fair i agree pauline o'Reilly senator o'Reilly for of the green party lovely to have you on the program again thank you so much for your time greatly appreciated uh councillor michael mcbride the same to you have a lovely weekend thank you and last but not least of course um breed corin solicitor if you ever if someone tries to take that case keep us informed will you as it relates to uh listen thanks so much for your time thanks bye bye take care of yourself all right okay we've got loads of your comments to catch up on and much more besides after the news and obituary notices stay right where you are watch the show live now on youtube facebook and at highlandradio.com the night till noon show with letter kenny credit union now offering mycu current account and 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anniversary of the good friday agreement in april will former tisha kepertia heron says he believes it is possible now i think it is a positive run since before christmas um and if everybody um means what they're saying that then this is this is doable um i think in fairness to the european union they've been sitting around for 15 months since october of 21 waiting to get real engagement with the uk government defective block campaigners in dunigol have launched a campaign to identify vulnerable homeowners affected by mica and other deleterious materials the mica action group is urging people in the community to help them identify vulnerable people and ensure they're being represented in a video posted on social media last night mica action group chairperson lisa hone said supports are available but the fear is that some people could fall between the cracks the people who are having to deal with other serious issues other people most likely to potentially fall through the gaps in this process it is a mountain to climb even if you have age and full health on your side we have to make sure that these people are not left behind so please get in touch please think of your community and your neighbors and let's get a really accurate database together of people who are out there and need extra support the hsc says it's concerned by the number of healthcare workers who've yet to receive their second covid 19 boosters according to latest data three quarters of staff across the country's seven hospital groups haven't yet got their second doses while only 71 000 of the 1.48 million people aged between 18 and 49 in the state have had their second booster job cso figures released earlier this week showed some of the state's lowest second booster uptake levels were in dunigol interim hsc CEO steven mulvani says the situation regarding healthcare workers does need to be further explored the piece we're probably most concerned about is healthcare workers and particularly 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you're not enjoying what you're doing it could be a book by the way it could be absolutely anything it's just really uh for for that hour at the last hour of the week just to maybe switch off a little bit from all that we talk of all the important serious issues and just reflect on other things in life hi greg i have to agree with the texture in your last hour i tell my kids the same thing every week as well get out of this country thanks now i mean again there's gonna be a group of people that do it because they want their people to you know spread their wings go out and explore different countries different cultures really in some cases and and i think that is fine but it's really i think a terrible indictment of where we're at if parents are saying get out of this country because that's what's good for you in terms of you know you're caring for them um it's really uh it's a shame if that is the case what effect will this reforestation have on neighbouring farms this sale to british investors must be resisted we've sold the lottery the toll we've nothing left these proposals are made by people far removed from the actual situations and dare i add if you don't mind who owns much of the housing in this country now vulture funds investment funds from outside arland so it's not just the examples you gave look at housing and where we're at there too climate change will not be helped by planting citrus spruce plantations on peat bogs back to the minimum wage a lot of these young 17 18 and 19 year olds are more capable of making decisions and have more intelligence than the overpaid and in some cases dishonest politicians we we are we have uh we're making these decisions that are causing our young people to leave our country and seek work in countries where their work will be appreciated what chance have they got while laurel and hardy are in charge of things here says an and naughty who are you calling laurel and hardy uh another caller says why would any ambitious young person want to stay in donnie galler in or in what is the second most politically corrupt country in the west in western europe after italy micro homes no hope of buying a house health service shambles next to non-existent public transport system and now the price of a pint has reached an all-time whole you can't you can't even afford to drown at your sorrows okay is i mean i feel it's not as bad as you uh outlined but i'm an eternal optimist in certain areas i vote maybe it is you know and in terms of buying a house look at i've given the example before um back in the day you know back when i was uh looking to build a house you know the house the quote was maybe you know if you were if you had a reasonable job uh you know two or three times your yearly salary uh now it's more like 10 times you know so that's why people can't afford houses now even on higher wages compared to in the past because the multiples of your annual income now through the roof it's 10 or 11 whereas in the past it could have been two three or four uh quilts are managed land belonging to us no to quilts once it's sold it's gone quilts you can't sell what they don't own um how does the uh panel feel about the site in illisterium being cut down and sold off not sure about that we'll check into it back to uh minimum wage i worked in a local pub and nightclub when i was 18 i was the highest paid member of staff out of 30 at 18 i think the majority of employers will pay younger staff better if they are performing especially now when it's difficult to get employment for a lot of sectors like hospitality i get you but there's an awful lot of people in this county employed at minimum wage regardless of their age but i understand the point you're talking to other countries don't want inexperienced young people when they go out they blow the money they make and don't come back with enough to build a house a sweeping statement there i think an awful lot of people depends on age and and and what you do a lot of people there's there's demands for um people to work in in construction um you can do that at any age regardless of your well it's not regardless of your uh i know it's uh there's areas of it that require a lot of qualifications what have you but i think also to suggest that they they're all out there blowing the money and coming home empty handed i don't i don't think that's a fair assessment either with respect if they don't want to be here let them go why are we so bothered if they're going to go they're going to go when we will be cutting politicians wages are you on about young people well who's next why does any of us stay here well what's the point you know let's everyone just go somewhere else what's left the government will blame anything except its own failed housing policies the hotels are full of refugees so airbnb's are needed for tourists or are we to abandon tourism altogether obviously social housing should be for people needing housing and not for tourists well most many i think in about 90 percent of hotel rooms for the coming season from march april onwards are going to return uh their business focus to tourism uh so this uh this idea that hotels are full of refugees is not going to be um the same for the coming tourism season as it was towards the end of the last why is barty her and being asked for his topence worth and every issue he is has been kicked out of politics for being less than honest with this personal and political affairs in my opinion is important to the good friday agreement was minimal others would argue otherwise uh the main players were hew madams and clinton barty's being reinvented by the media in order to erase any memory of his previous persona well i would love to say you're completely wrong there but he is a person who has an interest in being a president of this country and uh you have to rehabilitate yourself presumably uh in the public side to get enough votes uh in that regard oh eight six sixty twenty 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us on the program now good morning lisa thanks for joining us hi greg good to have you back on the show right um mag launched a video yesterday talk to us about the contents of it um the video is um it's a really a reach out to the community of people affected by defective concrete homes um we are particularly concerned about the lack of support um for those who may be deemed vulnerable in in some way so what i'm talking about there is people who are dealing with maybe age related issues um sickness serious illness disability there's probably a whole plethora of circumstances that i've not mentioned that people would identify with so you know like you know my descriptions are not sort of definitive it and really what we want is for those people to get in touch with the mic action um group if we have very up to date relevant data um it really serves to help us to evidence our arguments and we need to understand all we speak to homeowners every single day and everybody has their own story and their own circumstance um but it is of particular concern when we get into dialogue with people who are dealing with really really serious issues you know we've got we've got people who are dealing with serious disabilities um in the throes of dealing with serious illness or something you know illnesses that are just ongoing life changing illnesses that they're never going to get beyond this is something that is in their life um constantly and and also just speaking to you know the older generation that is affected by this desperate um situation you know we have got homeowners well into the 70s their 80s who are going to be faced with the prospect of having to navigate the scheme and demolish and rebuild a home that's obviously that's those that's those that have access to to uh that those that have access to funds but they're going to have to dig into savings or the rainy day fund if they were lucky enough through their life to i mean in reality are they going to be going for another mortgage are they going to go on for another loan and these people that you talk of we are in a limbo here for the next year anyway until such time as i i don't know even if the new score scheme is launched in in the coming months until we know precisely you know what changes might be made late 23 into 24 who's going to sort of apply and engage with the scheme yeah are you talking specifically with the technical stocks yeah exactly yeah yeah in terms of we find out what the story is with with different uh with with with with with different things that affect concrete whether foundations might be included i'm not going to engage with it in February and March uh because i i want to wait and see what the findings are we're told late 23 and in fairness uh minister former minister johnby q flagged that it would be a full year a couple months back on this program it could be into 2024 yeah i mean it's just not good enough it's it's actually irresponsible and it's unreasonable and quite honestly um the government is so far behind with the science um and the the reality is that they're only getting to grips with the science now because of they've been pushed so hard by homeowners and you know first pull done that that's an absolutely instrumental in that and um you know like they wouldn't even be bothering to do this if they've not been pushed so hard by the community of homeowners so you know people just need to think on that but there is no reason that it needs to take 12 months it does not take 12 months to analyze all these samples there will be a point at which there is a sufficient cohort of samples some preliminary results which will give um the scientists engaging in this project enough of a steer you know they will be getting guidance in terms of what is coming out of these results and if this hypothesis with regard to iron sulfides and we know it's in the aggregate now and there is no reason to suspect that the supplies of the poured concrete if it's the same supplier they've used any different aggregate so just logically speaking it's going to be in the foundations so it is there's no reason to kind of hang back and it is this irresponsibility if it does become if it is in the foundations though well then this changes everything in terms of uh you know whatever hope someone might have of getting a house up to the roof uh under the current cab if you're talking definitely internal leave you're talking definitely foundations well then we need a new we need a very much revised scheme then yeah if the science bears out and I think that in the way that we um think it will then you are talking some very very fundamental changes that need to happen to this scheme you can't tinker around the edges with this it has to be fundamental change in terms of taking on the foundations um and you know the foundations are complicated in some respects you know with regard to the easiest ones it's probably somewhere between 10 and 20 thousand to replace foundations but some people depending on their sites have extremely complicated foundations because of the you know the geography of like floating foundations or something like that is that what you're referencing is it no I just in terms of even if you've got a site on different levels um you know it's like I don't I don't I know and we'll get back to the real thrust this video Lisa I don't want you to I don't want I'm distracting it here but you know with what is possibly to come and what is inevitably to come because he could even start talking about driveways and all but that's not going to happen but you know if it's the same concrete bother shouting it feels to some extent until such time as we get clarity on what is included that we actually even almost before the 9010 scheme the so-called 9010 scheme I just feel that if it's accepted that foundations have to be included it just changes this scheme in such a scale that it almost needs to be completely rethought as you say not tinkered around the edges how long is that going to take well how long is the piece of string Greg I mean that what we're confronted with at the moment is this lethal combination from government um you know with a combination of apathy and arrogance and this is left homeowners in this desperate situation where they don't have this certainty that they need I mean this is why we're pressing so much on the foundations because we know that speaking to the homeowners they need that certainty to go ahead with this they are living in fear that they might go ahead with a rebuild and yet years later be plunged back into this situation now whatever about that in the most direct yeah absolutely whatever about returning sorry Greg yeah I was just because this is an important element to this for those who aren't as in the full knowledge that you are whatever about well you can come back to the scheme to do an inner leaf right you know if you do your outer leaf and your your foundations go again it's back to square one effectively I can't see a situation where then you could change foundations and inner leaves and retain the newly repaired outer leaf I wouldn't I wouldn't touch this scheme with a barge pole until I knew that foundations were or were not definitively included and I think a lot of people will try and back for that reason but unfortunately we've got homeowners who are literally on the brink and I think that that desperation is playing into where they are and some of them I think are looking to I mean within the scheme you can replace your own foundations through your own volition but your own finances you know I mean how many people will will be able to actually do that and again this comes back to the most vulnerable the most socially and economically deprived people are the ones who pay the price for this again so it's the ones who don't have the resources to be able to test or pull out foundations and replace them they're the ones who are just living on a wing and a prayer and hoping that this is going to work for them and the thought of being plundered back into this it's just it it's absolutely morally reprehensible of government to say to have that attitude to say oh well you could have a second bite at the cherry no there are solutions that people are given need to be beyond reasonable doubt that this this guarantee is the absolute you know it's the safety net if everything else goes wrong it is not a second bite at the cherry and government is taking that whole thing just too lightly has taken it too lightly we've expressed it in the strongest terms but again you come back to dealing with a government that is just arrogant and apathetic yeah but I mean this guarantee too it's just words it's not tested do we know if how do we know if house insurers will ensure houses that have been have been repaired do we know if mortgage companies give those properties their their their their full value even if they've only been partially repaired and do it's not been tested yet what valued I mean our house it's the only value is to it is is what we could get for it on the open market who is going to buy a partially fixed micro home so the guarantee what the guarantee doesn't really actually exist until those three measures are met that your your your house is of equal value to one that never had mica it's I call it mica we know it's not just mica right two that you can get house insurance and three that that you know your mortgage company will treat it as the market value if it never had defective concrete so until those three and there's probably more but until those three bars are met there's no guarantee really from government because it wouldn't be worth the paper it's written on and you know what Greg what you've just said is exactly what I have asked in the most strongest terms to those who represent the government I have articulated exactly what you have said because we live with exactly the same concerns and this is going to be the acid test of this scheme landing you know the government is living on a promise at the moment and you know the acid test is when it lands and all this detail has they have to actually honor all this detail because at the moment despite pursuing them vigorously I cannot get the answers I would give people that information if I had information to give on that I would give people because I know that they're stressed out they're desperate they want to understand the details of the scheme and it's absolutely disgusting that we still don't have the rates and rates in place now this is the third deadline that they've missed on this which really goes back to the you know you have to question the competency the focus and the lack of care that's going into this there is no project management to make sure that this scheme is being delivered in the detail and on time and on budget they don't even have a project manager Greg who actually pulls all this together there's nobody that's ultimately responsible for actually delivering this scheme and I think that is and other homeowners think that is one of the fundamental problems because you don't ultimately have somebody who has the authority and also the accountability with regard to this scheme it's all sort of divvied up between you know the various agencies and state bodies and they're all doing that a little bit it's all very very piecemeal and it is it is quite frankly a really unprofessional way of working and when you lift the lid and you see what happens in government I mean this is the highest level of government this is ministerial level and within Lens to house civil servants reporting directly into the minister and they don't even have a project manager and they can't deliver a deadline you know it's a sham well there's two things first to your major problem is is that and we heard it with a recent interview is is that RTE believed that the problem is fixed putting it to the housing minister you've sorted Donagall what about Dublin true he says true he also believes Donagall is fixed that's a significant problem because that those were comments that were made on the record the second problem is is it not Lisa that the only real deadline that matters now at this point is the deadline as to when this new research as to to you know what might be causing this beyond micro of course and also whether or not foundations will be included in truth is that not really the only deadline that matters because as I say I don't think I know anyone they might get the core sampling done if they can get it done cheaper but I don't know anyone that would progress within this scheme until they know for a fact whether or not it would be full demolition demolition across the board or whether foundations would be would be included so between now and then any other deadlines are kind of really moot are they not no I mean the reality is I think you speak for a lot of homeowners in terms of they want to understand the implications of the research but the reality is that there are homeowners right now who are pressing on that is that is the reality and there is there are and the community of homeowners is waiting hard on seeing what's in these regs and regularly and the the regs and the rates I mean that's all the kind of detail the process is it's you know like at the moment we're kind of in this vacuum again and we need all that detail and information so whether somebody progresses you know imminently or whether they're going to wait another 12 months or so to actually do that I think the imperative is still that we need to understand what's in the regs and the rates and we need to know it now and again they're dragging their heels and they can't even give us a date at the moment you know we behind the scenes myself and the other reps from the affected counties the four counties they're going to have access we are hammering on their door constantly to try and get this information all the stuff that we've talked about this morning deadlines you know we don't let up on them at all but at the moment um I don't think they can give us a date and the reason they can't give us a date as I've said before is because they don't have a date again again unfortunately a lot I did a few interviews that were really quite unpopular as the 9010 scheme was being accepted and unfortunately some of those things much of it did come to pass because I couldn't work out how people could access that scheme right but it was the best that could be achieved at that time no criticism of those who negotiated they did what they could but let's look at let's look at the reality of this situation there's less than two years left of this government um in a year's time by the time that this science has been gotten through and the regs and the rates are resolved you're you're going to be heading into the start of 2024 this government then at that point will have one more year to run to a national ear they will be able to say in the last four years we delivered this scheme for donagall in the mouth of an election why might they open up that can of worms again and start a whole big hoo-ha my genuine fear is that this will be pushed back pushed back to the election because I don't think really in reality anyone within finnegale and finnafall thinks as that coalition they're getting back into power again one of them may have to do a deal with shin fain and at that point it's going to be shin fain's problem to sort out I hate to be cynical right and I hate to dash any hopes but if I were a political advisor and I never would be one that's how I see things playing out at least to be honest with you now it's crystal ball stuff but why would they do anything else other than that I mean I think you're right and you've shown that they don't have the sense of urgency that they profess when you hear them talking that is a very different um reality that homeowners experience but I just we cannot allow that to happen we cannot allow the energy to go and allow them to do that we just cannot we have got homeowners in the most desperate circumstances you know if I just go back to talking about those homeowners um that we're we're trying to reach out to who are living with really serious um issues beyond this um so which make them sort of extra vulnerable in some way um they cannot they cannot hang on that long people are really desperate they're on the brain and that is an excusable because people are not going to accept that yeah people will not accept that if you want to see tens of thousands of people on the streets of Dublin again that is what you know if government tries that that is where we will be because we are so desperate at the moment there's no excuse not to help the people that you're talking of here even if it is a year or two before uh we know precisely what this scheme will look like these people are living in awful situations at the moment they need the supports that you talk of some need emergency accommodation temporary accommodation all of that can be worked on whilst the other stuff is while the other stuff is being sorted out so you're calling on people to come forward as part of this video so we'll maybe go back to the start Lisa because that's why we invited you on and it's an important message all right but it's just to get an update because I don't want people to think that I've that this is not very important to us here as well so I just wanted to go through everything with you while I had you Lisa um so talk to me about the video we know there's loads of people that are dealing with terrible things whilst actually trying to deal with this we know there's going to be mental health issues as well there's people going to feel there's no hope no light there's people that can't stay in their current properties any longer you want to hear from them what what what do you want from this group of people moving forward primarily we just want you to get in touch so contact us at um on email at admin at micaactiongroup.com or you can um give us a shout out on um facebook by a messenger um it's really what we're looking to do is evidence we know the massive issues that people are dealing with because of our constant conversations with people but what we need to do is quantify and qualify exactly what is going on there it needs to be um this is basically an evidence collecting exercise so we can speak with absolute authority uncertainty with regard to who's out there how many people what they're dealing with this you know this kind of issue also leads into this lack of temporary um accommodation so for example if you are living with say a debilitating illness or disability in some way or even just a kind of frailty that's connected with old age is it reasonable that you can live in a mobile home in a field for your probably not i mean if you just think about it logically in terms of somebody who maybe is dependent on a wheelchair for example they have to have a home that has access um you know for whatever help devices they need it you know they just it is this joined up thinking that is so lacking at the moment so what we're doing i mean we'll fight and we'll push but what we also need to do is we need to gather evidence so that government can be confronted with exactly the reality and it's going to be very hard credible data and we know that the people out there are basically the source of that you know they can't argue with it if it's been collected in a very responsible and credible way and we've got the numbers we've got the circumstances we've got the case studies we can say exactly um what is going on out there it's hard to believe that we in this day and age in this country have to um organize in such a way um to press a government to look after people who are either about to be made homeless or like listen i'm sure there's people in in in defective concrete effect homes that maybe want to adapt that home someone has gotten older or someone has had a crash or or someone has contracted a disease where they might need to adapt that house right and they can't adapt that house because they'll be throwing money into a hole because that house might have to be knocked down into the future when there's so many examples of a nightmare nightmarish situation for people out there right okay uh that video's on the mag facebook page it's also on our website as well by the way just just as far as we are kind of aware because there are those out there who can't afford the six or seven or eight thousand or whatever uh figures picked out of the sky to uh get houses tested so even if they're not going to progress quickly on the scheme there's a lot of people out there that suspect they have defective concrete when will that part of the revised scheme be live so people can get those tests i think for what five maybe three or four or five uh hundred euro that was supposed to be early this year do we know when that might be available well effectively that's part of the new revised scheme greg so once the regs and rates are published which wow sorry so so sorry that that's pulled that's also pulled into late 23 24 no no no the the way i'll just give you the timeline please so effectively right now we are waiting very very hard on the regulations and the rates which govern the scheme so all that will be you know fairly detailed document in terms of all the processes of how this works the housing agency is effectively taking over the testing of the houses so as soon as the scheme goes like as soon as the regs and rates are then published then there will be a period where donnie goll county council on all the councils from the affected counties entering the scheme will have to get those basically live they have to implement the regs and the rates with regard to people systems you know the whole shebang and when that's done the scheme the scheme will go live when the scheme goes live people then will be able to apply um they have to go through what is called a building condition assessment which is a sort of top-line issue of your home yeah and if you're successful with um that then that will be referred to the housing agency and housing agency will take um on the testing when is the when is it currently promised that that would happen in terms of it going live yeah well again we're talking about these sort of um flexible deadlines shall i say so like donnie goll county council are saying a number of weeks so that but that could be anywhere between six to eight weeks to 12 weeks it really depends on the complexity of the regs and the rates now my understanding is that donnie goll county council have sight of the regs they are in conversation thank god i mean this should have been happening months ago that all the councils should have been pulled in right from the start of this i mean they're the ones who actually have to implement it administratively um so effectively they are part of that process so they should have a good feel in terms of what needs to happen and that work i understand is underway but at the moment what i can't give homeowners is a definite date say on this date it will go live and the reason i can't do that is because i cannot get a date from the authorities to tell me when that's going to happen and then when are we expecting more information as it relates to other deleterious materials whether or not foundations will have to be included the timeline for that is late 23 well the government's official timeline is that they say they need this year to review the scientific data but effectively um you know quite honestly that is just rubbish and we will be but that's what they're saying i know i know you said that in an official capacity but i think that we will be i think that we will there will be the science and the research emerging way beyond then and we will press with every fiber of our beings to get that push forward i just think i just think you're um i just think you're speaking to people who believe the job is done and be good and sit and have your patience and when we're ready we'll let you know i think that's that's that's their holding position at this point i don't think outside of a mass protest again i don't see them adjusting their timeline beyond however much time they feel that they need again i don't understand negative but that's you know you can only go by by by comments they make nationally and that seems to me where they're at least listen fair play to you is i i mean it's it's it must be tough uh it's it's we know how tough it is to be affected by this but it must be tough to be continuing to try and campaign for justice uh when it feels sometimes you're you're banging your head off of a brick wall it is a tough road you have to just keep on in there you have to be very tenacious you have just keep going at them but what are we gonna do are we are we gonna are we gonna just give up are we gonna turn our backs on people no we're not we're absolutely not going to do that and we're not going to let government away with making the country feel that this is done and it's sorted the problem you have is and i'll just reiterate this one more time the closer it gets to the election the less impact any mass protest might have now at this time with with it with two years potentially people might be forced into doing something if it's next year next summer even towards the end of this year a year and a bit to go with this term of government there's no need to listen to you on the streets there's no need to because people know where it's going anyway it's a tough all situation lisa and i say i don't i'm not an expert in anything it's just an opinion from what i say and what we've all seen in the past lisa and you're drawing on your great experience as well right okay people get on the mag website have a look at this video we can't they can't make strong arguments without strong data um so the more people that it's actually truly representative of what's going out there the stronger the argument the stronger the the data and evidences with the video on our website that's grand in case people stumble across it but the best places go to the the mag facebook page and then there's more detail on on what you do next lisa um i look forward to a more upbeat conversation with you um you know in terms of positive developments and i know you look forward to being able to pass on that type of information to people as well but for now thank you very much unless there's anything that you want to add lisa no that's fine thank you greg have a lovely day and weekend all right and keep up the good work okay lisa hone there who is uh chair of the mag group the night all new show is brought to you by letter kenny credit union offering low-rate car loans with fast approval apply online at letterkennycu.ie or in office today another christmas 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doesn't uh it doesn't really matter does it um if it's not too gold it's certainly not going to be too warm right let's get to some of your comments the house is not without foundation foundation should be automatically included in the defective concrete block scheme anything less is cruel and cold um and there's a mixture of comments coming in here um what happened to priscilla presley just heard she died well i can tell you she didn't but it's not good news because sadly her daughter did uh just aged um 54 as well funny enough lisa mary presley and uh priscilla presley were only out seen in public just a couple of days ago but very sadly singer-songwriter lisa mary presley the only child of rock and roll legend elvis presley has died aged 54 after being hospitalized she'd been brought to a california hospital intensive care unit uh in cardiac arrest now i know the uh were called to her house and uh revived her there and there was some hope of a recovery but sadly um that didn't happen priscilla presley and the presley family priscilla is is is alive priscilla presley and presley family shocked and devastated by the tragic death of the beloved lisa mary uh they are profoundly grateful for the support love and prayers of everyone and ask for privacy during this uh very difficult time priscilla presley who's lisa's lisa mary's mother who was married to elvis for six years until the divorce in 73 said in the statement to people magazine it's with a heavy heart that i must share the devastating news that my beautiful daughter lisa mary has left us and lisa mary was pre-deceased by uh her son as well it's an awful lot of tragedy around the presley family just no doubt about that uh please discuss the increase in the new hourly rate our employers obliged to pay legally or do they have a choice it's legal your minimum wage is legal they have to pay you that the system is fixed against uh the young they have an hope in ireland this woke government is starting to collapse and thank god the right wing parties are on the rise will put the irish family in citizens first and not the vested interests of the elitist and the woke brigade the irish people will not be cowed anymore which uh what what just which are the right leaning parties and which of them are on the rise um i'd be interested to find out your views on that ireland is the second highest country in europe people need to consider this when wondering why things are so expensive not really quite sure uh the the height of it and why things would be expensive i'd be very interested in uh if you let us know uh because i'm sure it makes sense i just can't uh get it uh you're correct gregg the government know that they will not be returned after the next election they will push the mica issue past the election and leave it to mary lou and co to deal with uh you know i mean there's two ways you can look at it if you want to strategize if you're free in a fall you could say well we delivered uh the scheme um or this is you know if you're having an election debate you could say we're free in a fall we delivered the scheme or you could say well we uh we got the scheme up to the line uh then finna gale took over and it was during their two years that there was very little progress even though of course the housing minister is still finna fall but there's politics you know that's how it can be played one way or other uh i'm sure uh a court says i wish you could press on but i'm stuck in limbo 30 months into the scheme waiting if the correct stage one approval uh and nobody will help me on it which um is limbo isn't it that's a living hell i think this government are kicking the can down the road until the next generation it's not their problem greg why don't they bring down the house sizes that would help with the cost and the fans would be covered in the cost it would make perfect sense one of the key changes to the scheme that the campaigners wanted okay me for my house for 300 grand clearly i can't uh build the house that i had for 300 grand but let me build a smaller house for that money and it will cover uh the costs you know that makes sense but it was uh obviously that was uh resisted damien english has resigned but can still be a paid td and can still keep his second home no one will knock his second home down he's still a paid td and will retire on a great pension and otherwise do these politicians only resign their ministerial positions but not their position as td as would happen in other countries i think damien english should be forced to pay back the wages he was awarded while he was unsuitable for the job which is a very interesting point actually uh because he's only able to collect those wages the extra wages because that information wasn't in the public domain a very interesting point indeed the 90 noon show with letter kenny credit union now offering mycu current account and debit mastercard bringing full banking features delivered with the 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northern ireland in the shannard he says while the uk government is saying the right things that's not being backed by action defective block campaigners in denigol have launched a campaign to identify vulnerable homeowners affected by mica and other deleterious materials the mica action group is urging people in the community to help them identify vulnerable people and ensure they're being represented in a video posted on social media last night the mica action group chair personally so hon said supports are available but the fear is some people may be falling through the cracks people in receipt of habit payments are being pushed further into poverty because of the low number of homes available to rent that's according to an assistant professor in social policy in manuth a simon community's report shows just 41 properties available to rent right across the country last month for people reliant on the housing assistant payment there were no properties available in a number of counties including slago a 46-year-old man's been arrested by police in south belfast investigating the murder of natalie mac nally in lurgan in county armad the 32-year-old who was 15 weeks pregnant was stabbed to death at her home in lurgan the week before christmas demand tamed this morning has been taken to the serious crime suite at musgrave police station in belfast for questioning and feel of all senator robbie ghaler has been appointed to government whip in the shanad it follows the coalition change over last month which sully of radker and b hall martin switch roles becoming tishuk and thonish to respectively senator ghaler is based in monohan but is a native of donnie gall he says he'll continue to represent the interests of his native county in the shanad and we're back with news headlines again at 12 noon covid 19 and flu viruses are circulating in the community keeping up to date with your recommended vaccines will make sure you have the best possible protection from serious 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you it wasn't he right to make that movie he always wanted to make it yeah well you should grab your opportunities when you can he's very optimistic of a recovery of course yeah it doesn't yeah it doesn't it's a tragic tragic story the press release obviously because i mean everyone knows um everybody knows elvis passed long before his time i think lisa marie was uh pre-deceased by her son she's got these two daughters yeah um and she's just 54 her 55th birthday uh i mean it's a tragedy in every family but it's uh you know it's young 54 is young and particularly uh for a female i think to die of a heart attack it's it's very saddened her i thought it was priscilla that passed away no lisa marie lisa marie lisa marie did you say priscilla yeah i was wondering you said listen to it i get no confused myself that's no it's lisa marie who's uh oh my god yeah priscilla wow priscilla has been more shocking but very shocking yeah but uh right yeah an awful lot that um and she was a singer-songwriter in her own right of course right so um we are going to let's just uh let's discuss the golden globes and the 2023 is that your list yeah i just heard that i sort of printed them all off because um one we may not be watching the right tv programs i mean oh some of them we've seen some of them aren't out here yet which is fine some of the movies and stuff isn't in here kate blanchett won for a movie called tar which i was taught me had an irish thing yes but uh that's not out yet here the fable man's isn't out out yet here as far as i'm aware which is uh the speedbird speedbird really what we're going to do now is just talk about the banshee of the nish no no we've seen other things as well that are on it uh the white lotus cisley which is the second series of the white lotus that was that's our sky eclectic gone down a bomb with critics yeah i did the first season as did the first season i think it's right well it wasn't as quirky as the first season the first season you were kind of watching well let's talk about best film drama i think that you just do best film best film drama winner avatar the way of water now did you see that i know people saw what they were a bit about it um also in the category there were what avatar didn't win the women's wanted but this is not quite as bad as your faux pas to be honest with you but still it's frame the 13th this is what this is what's happening everybody the women's wanted sorry avatar was in there so was tar and so was top gun maverick i thought that would be too cool no no not cool enough for school if you know what i know yeah two students it's been done so a fableman's won that the best film musical comedy which is the expected one because it's about movie making and movie making films tend to win oscars and golden globes because the people voting i know this is the foreign press and so forth but it's kind of like it's basically it's it's like when you have a song a dance song that says the DJ is great the DJ is great it gets played a lot yeah because this is an interesting movie i am looking forward to seeing it because it was supposed to have been called the spielbergs and some of the spielbergs went no so not happening so um but definitely he called it the fableman's and and supposedly i hope nobody tells the spielbergs about it yeah exactly keeping it a secret from his rest but they could have called um what was that show uh succession they could have called that the well i won't say their names but you know yes i do know i know but that's why it's interesting to see what exactly was it that the spielbergs weren't happy with him saying about them i think it's probably just name recognition really i mean spielberg name a spielberg yes yes name that's i don't know but then i thought the next one then is i don't understand how the banshees of inertia and comes under musical or comedy in any sense of the word it's funny there is a lot of humor and i agree i can say is i thought the banshee of inertia and was a lot of rubbish yeah i don't know why it won it's so divisive it's incredibly divisive there really is like you could you could throw two stones down the street so i mean glass onion and lives at mystery is a musical or conner comedy i did see that i haven't seen everything everywhere all at once or triangle of sadness uh the banshee of inertia and if you i mean at the end of the day they're gonna have to say they're probably saying you know what we're gonna there's a joke in it we'll stick it in yeah category because we really want to give the 20 years ago desperate housewives was entered in the comedy category and people used to go how come how come and it always won but that wasn't a comedy funny bits but it wasn't a comedy so are you opposed to the category of course for no one is but the banshee of inertia and deserves an awards big time well i really liked it i know a lot of people as i said it's it's one of those marmite things people seem tired to try and finish it people either seem to love it or hate it i really enjoyed it it was everything that mcdonald does that the mcdonald brothers do really though i just find this just not enough time in the day but anyway no there isn't a best tv series drama house of dragon better call saw i thought you know last series should have they should have and the house of dragon did not do well even the even i thought even the um uh audiences weren't as attracted to it as they had been with other stuff and there was talk about how it was too dark you know the ways and it was feeling very dark and it's amazing better call saw wrapped never to return was also shortlisted never to return never to return they put out a lot of but i think that might have the the actress in it who we all like i think she did she did yes she got her job the crown maybe it's too mainstream for such an award severance but house of dragon they went for it you don't necessarily think the pulse was on the finger was on the public's pulse in that decision well i just anybody i know who loved and i loved game of thrones myself and anybody i know who watched it and liked it but it was no not a patch on what uh game of thrones was you know what i mean as the new uh this is the prequel to it now so all right best tv series musical economy went to abbot elementary i've never heard of it but it was very good to beat out only murderers in the building it's getting rave rave are you i haven't seen it yet i haven't seen it yeah it's getting rave reviews and there's only one series on yet this is must be based because she won last year as well um so this must be based on series two which we don't appear to have here yet because i just checked it again in case i missed it coming in i mean it's perfectly there's absolutely nothing wrong with it it's a but you've seen it before it's set in a small school the school is in an area of um difficulty you know social difficulties in america you have all these teachers a lot of them are of different ethnicities and it's really just about them kind of working away together and moving forward i you could probably you know go back to save by the band you can go back and do it exactly the same thing it's just they throw in