Välkomna till mina stämda subskrivare idag.  Så allt från träning till filosofi och sånt och det är omkring 200 pages. Så ja, en lång tid i avstånd och jag är väldigt glömt att det är snart. Så stanna, jag kommer att göra mer videor när det är ut och också jag vill läsa på min andra social media, men ja, det är i det arbete åtminstone. Så anyway, på till de frågorna i hand, och vi börjar med Subscribestar. Och vi har, hur skulle du respondera till den avstånd att du är inte en riktig fascist och faktiskt bara en social konservativ med klassiska liberal linnare? Jag skulle inte respondera till de avstånd i allt. Först och foremost, om vi talar om fascism, det är ett så lösligt definitivt koncept. Du kan inte verkligen säga att du är en fascist eller inte. Det är något som är för bra. Och också, jag har sagt det tidigare på min Instagram och jag vill säga det nu också, för det är en bra möjlighet. Jag är inte politisk och jag har ingen ideologi. Jag är dritlig för att läsa till min familj, min nation, min biokultur och min civilisation. Jag är löslig till människa i Europa och till människa i naturen och till människa i Sverige. Så om du frågar vad som driver mig, det är inte ideologi, det är inte politisk. Det är lösning. Samtidigt som när mina förfäder följde våra heroisk kvinnor tillbaka. De inte riktigt sker på politik. De gjorde det för kvinnorna. De gjorde det för att följa familjerna för att följa fritid i Sverige. Just som jag är säkert, människa av djuren har gjort det simulant. Det är om lösning. Det är inte om politisk. Så om du frågar, är jag detta eller är jag det? Jag antar inte att det inte händer. Jag är lösning. Och det är det. Så där har du anser till frågan om jag är vad som är ideologi. Jag har ingen ideologi. Jag har lösning och det är vad som driver mig. Om du frågar om min världvån, jag drar det från människa natur. Och det är också min religion. Jag ska tala mer om det senare. Alltså, återigen till en annan politisk fråga. Karl frågar. Jag har hört att många av de faller till den extrema rätt, som i min opinion är kontraproduktiv, hjälpig för att promöta en respektive, nytt rätt för movement i Europa. I djuren visar vad som kan vara gjort för att hjälpa de att hitta människor innan de blir så extrem. Alltså, det är den andra månaderna. De ska bli extrem innan de blir röda. När du först startar upp att bli en liten, tar din första räddpill. Du blir väldigt extrem. Då, när du går i djuren, blir du mer röda. Så, för exempel, om vi talar om, igen, fascism eller något sådant, det kan vara många människa som blir attraktade till fascism eller de various fascist movements of the former century. Then, as they progress in their enlightenment journey, they start becoming more interested in traditionalism. For example, which is less extreme than by that way of measuring things. So I would say it's nothing bad with becoming too extreme, because if you want to get to the ultimate enlightenment, you have to go through a period of being extreme. Then, of course, I'm the first one to say that bad rhetoric is not something to be endorsed and it's absolutely nothing cool or edgy about commenting extreme stuff on the internet. We also have to distinguish between extremism and radicalism. I am radical. I am a proud radical. So if I say I believe it's good to have a man and a woman and a loving family, I do believe it's bad with sexual promiscuity for the social cohesion of a nation. If I say that in today's modern world, I am very radical because it's very different, but I'm not extreme because if we're looking upon it historically speaking, every culture basically in every time has placed value upon the family and upon sexual restriction. So I'm radical in today's standards, but I'm not extreme. The left-wing madmen are the extreme ones. So I hope that was a good enough answer at least. Greg asks, will you be organizing or participating in more offline community building? Yes, most definitely indeed. I have done so quite a bit over the last year and it's very rewarding. It's always nice to meet kind hearted and positive people who appear in these sort of social settings. If you are in Sweden, check out Juttenhamn Nutrition's Instagram page for some updates when we do have MMA trainings etc. And yeah, you're welcome to swing by if you have the heart on the right place. Irish Steel asks, I know it's a bit late, but Golden One, have you ever heard of fantasy series called Elric of Melnibon? If not, all I can say is ombre, why not? It's pretty much the origin of all the dark fantasy stuff you like. I have not, but I included the question because of the use of ombre. It's nice to say so if you have a mate who doesn't want to go to the gym because he's tired or something, you can say to him ombre and he will get his mind set straight and join you in the temple of iron. So start saying ombre, it's fun. Moving on to Patreon. We have a question from Montana. After taking the glorious pill, I began both consciously and unconsciously distancing myself from many former friends and acquaintances due to incompatible worldviews and aspirations. While I love and enjoy the time spent in the company of my woman, I can't help but to feel like I'm stuck playing the game of life in single player mode. What recommendations would you give in finding or building a tribe of masculine and high-thumos friends that inspire and motivate one another? And Helvetik John reinforces the question by saying, good question friend, you are not the only one in this situation. Indeed you are not alone in this situation. I've gotten this question for about three or four years now and yeah it is a common thing and I don't really have a good answer. What I can say is that try to go to places where there are high-thumos men it can be an MMA gym for example or it can be a hunter's club or it can be a powerlifting gym or a strongman gym or something like that. Now of course I'm fully aware that these sort of things might not be available in the area where you are at. So I can't really say, I can't say though if you are in Sweden for example try to appear in various events that are being hosted with where I am basically because there's always good lads there but in the broader west I can't really give any good recommendation but if you are active on Instagram for example and if you post a lot of things that you are doing you can definitely meet up with like minded guys. I have an American friend and supporter shout out to you Rob who basically struck up conversations with guys on Instagram and then he went on a trip to Europe and met up with a lot of them that they've been talking etc and sharing stuff on Instagram. So that can also be a good idea. Point being is that you have to be seen by others to yeah for them to contact you etc. So be a shining beacon of light in the dark and you will attract like minded people. Steven asks golden one what does your title mean and what did you study at university? My title means a lot of things but incorruptible one is one of the meanings and I did study economics at Uppsala university. Jack asks any updates on your products being available in the Americas and Legogloria is available worldwide and as I said the book will be available as well but the supplements it will probably take a little while until that becomes a reality unfortunately but I am working on it and it would be absolutely amazing if I can launch Juttenheim nutrition in the new world. Matthew asks what are your thoughts on conscription? I think it's a great idea. I differ a bit from libertarians here but I have absolutely nothing against conscripting young men into the army to make men of them. That was one of the main points with the Swedish army during the last century you got in 18 and 19 year olds and when they had spent their mandatory year there they were more men. So yeah I do think it's a good idea. Then of course it is if you want as professional army as possible it can perhaps be better if you only go if you spend the resources on the guys who are most motivated to join the army but I do believe that old men should be able to take up arms to defend their country whether they like it or not everyone has to do their duty. Devon asks how do you view those that take their own lives due to depression? I recently lost a good mate of mine this way and have mixed feelings on its sins. Deep topic I will make a separate video on suicide but obviously it's not something I endorse except for certain cases where it is better for everyone involved if someone basically does it but yeah no I don't think it's a good idea. I think depression it is a lot of things you can do to better your mental health training being one of them eating a better diet try to eat a diet high in meat and fat and low in carbohydrates try to spend a lot of time outside try to spend a lot of time in the sun try to spend a lot of time in the gym and you will feel better but anyway I will respond more at length in a later video. Peter Pimm asks reading recommendations after finishing hated and proud alt trust contra modernity and horus heresy by the way I look forward to the new shorts coming out yes the new shorts are out and yeah horus heresy and hated and proud great books I would recommend actually western price teachings it I have made a video upon it but I also do recommend that you read the book it's very interesting in my humble opinion at least then also you can read the oxygen advantage of Patrick McKeon but I will make a separate book review video in the coming week I believe it's time for that. Joseph asks golden one it's great to see you open up the Q&A thread those tend to be my favorite videos and threads my question is this while I know you said earlier in some videos your military service was mandatory in Sweden did you consider staying in the army I will answer that first it was sort of mandatory it was mandatory on paper but I did it voluntarily because if I didn't want to do it I could have said you know what I have a pain in my foot and they would have let me go so it was rather a luxury for me to be able to do it than anything else I had mates who didn't get to do it even though they wanted because they had some obscure allergy that didn't even cause them trouble so I am very very fortunate in having to be able to do the military service and yes I did think about staying becoming some sort of officer but even then I knew the path to saving my country wasn't going to be military so then I decided to study instead and go that path but yes I did want to when I was done because I sort of missed it even the week after I got out from the army so yeah moving on with the question and would you say that helped you contribute to your current success I only ask because many people in the US see the military and as a last resort but for me it's an opportunity to improve and open up new doors in my life it doesn't mean it's perfect but it's a start and I wanted to know if you had a similar experience yeah most definitely it it was great for me I was quite quite a victim of the modern world I didn't really have that sense of stoicism and discipline and you know a lot of aspects that I matured in the army so it definitely helped me later on as well and again I'm super thankful for having to been able to do it I can't speak for the American army though I had the extreme luxury again to be part of the older Swedish army that wasn't cocked at that stage so this was in 2009 so it's yeah not all too long ago but in terms of cultural Marxism it's a lifetime ago so yeah I can say that at least but how it looks today I can't say I don't know but I do definitely credit my experiences in in the army with a lot of mental things that are good right now primarily discipline and stoicism and also recognizing the fact that you're not the center of the universe because I was as many young men are in this day and age quite egocentric etc but then I got that removed from me because I was just a man among men moving on from my man William career advice for younger lads do you suggest more of a rider tiger style approach or is it best to pursue a simpler life in your view very tough question and I don't really want to answer this because it's up to you and I can't say I can't give an answer that is satisfactory to you in your particular situation so take this with a massive grain of salt I would definitely if you have something that you want to study that you are interested in and there is a market for basically go for it I do believe in education I do think it can be a good idea to pursue something like that and there are certain professions that are always needed so I don't see any reason to abstain from that if you have the possibility then of course I don't encourage anyone to take student loans to study arts or something like that but if it is something that can lead to something higher I definitely believe you should because if we're talking about economic collapses etc I don't believe it will happen what I believe will happen is a slow and steady decline but you will still be well able to use your education if you if you get one so it can be a good investment then of course in Sweden we have free education so it's quite different here from America where you have to pay to get to college so yeah a bit of a non-answer but that's my take on it at least Ian asks what is the hardest part of being a father so far is there any books on parenting you recommend hopefully we'll be needing this advice sooner or later I will send a prayer to Frey for you my friend it is glorious indeed the hardest part yet is I haven't really stumbled upon any huge issues a bit less sleep but then again my wife is really good taking care of her and she's a very kind child so I can't really complain at all what I can say though is that I'm a bit worried about the future of Sweden and the west so that is one aspect that I'm a bit yeah it worries me a bit at least but then again that's why I do what I do working metapolitically in regards to parenting books I would definitely recommend Jordan Peterson's 12 rules of life I thought to us surprisingly good and I will make a separate video on his book later on I just don't want to promote other books too much before I have released my own but yeah it is coming a book review of that particular term of knowledge Transtett asks Viking of wisdom what what is the best protein powder other than whey for an old lactose intolerant man my personal opinion is egg protein but I already eat a lot of eggs every day yes I would agree that egg protein is the best but if you already eat a lot of eggs I would recommend beef protein not perhaps the tastiest or most pleasant thing to drink but at least it is good if you can't get whey Tyler Hamilton asks great primark of wisdom next week I shall be moving out on my own alongside a friend of mine to pursue higher education in the hopes of doing more for the great crusade here in the USA one thing we are both interested in is finally getting serious about hitting the gym and also fixing our diets to getting good shape alongside what you feature in your gains kitchen videos are there any particular staple foods slash meals that you can recommend which are as cheap as possible so as to suit the budget of an american college student but still be as healthy as possible also any other tips wisdom for a young western guy going back to university would be appreciated yeah in regards to food you have things such as oats and eggs eggs are the best foods there are and quite cheap as well and then also I would definitely recommend that you try to if possible get into contact with some sort of local farmer farmer see if you can get bulk prices perhaps you and your mate can buy in bulk together and save a few dollars on each order the way protein is also quite cheap in terms of protein content but I would say oats eggs and also potatoes usually it's quite cheap in Sweden at least and in regards to advice for college use the time wisely because you will probably have some time that you can decide upon what to do yourself so use that wisely by studying hard and studying other things reading books that you find interesting in self-improvement etc and then of course train as much as possible so yeah enlightenment and progress on all fronts and relish the opportunity to have a lot of time to to decide yourself what to do with from my man Mark Clark have you ever tried maximum intensity slow movement lifting for example going as slow as possible on a 500 kg leg press I just started doing it and the results and ability for progression has been great I know the imperial truth is quite simply higher intensity training heavy weight training is the best weight training but what are your thoughts on the most optimal lift style two piece question combo yeah no definitely I would say that I try to do the lifts as fast as possible fast lifts equals fast results and if you want to get that explosiveness in your muscles it's a good idea so I've always trained to do it as explosively as possible and yeah just focusing on lifting as heavy as possible lifting with the mindset of progression and as of late I've also added some volume to my training because that is important as well so yeah that is my take on that then we have two more questions actually that I thought to respond and that is from Joe from the perspective of a pagan how does it feel to live in the same lands as your ancient ancestors I'm a third generation American or French and German ancestry I don't feel a connection to the land here the way I imagine pagans living in Europe do Well I can't really say for certain since I haven't lived away for so much time but yeah it feels good I feel quite in tune with the nature more than anything but then again I've been in America three times I've enjoyed it the nature there is great as well so I wouldn't say America is bad in that sort of way you still have your ancestors no matter where they are from that you can honor and cherish so I wouldn't say it's necessary to live where your ancestors have been part of being European is also the adventurer and explorer spirit so I wouldn't dwell too much upon your geographical location just try to honor them anyway then also from Steven I'm looking to rediscover my pagan roots I'm a Basque descent raised in Christian tradition and not sure where to start I know the pantheon is different from Norse however I don't feel this to be a big deal when trying to create one's own traditions what are your thoughts I wish I could respond in a good way to that question but I really can't first step read up about your ancestors and I wouldn't necessarily look past your Christian heritage it's been part of Europe for quite a long time and if we're looking upon Catholicism it is paganism to a large extent as well because when it came to Europe it had to adapt a lot of pagan philosophy in it to be accepted so I wouldn't look past that but otherwise you can always try to read up on Basque history as much as possible and try to make your conclusions from there so longest Q&A I have ever made feels good to have it done thank you for watching it thank you for taking the time out of your day to listen to my words of wisdom hopefully I don't know if you got any supreme enlightenment from watching this video but hopefully you did so anyway I've gotten the audio recorder now I will start making Swedish history videos tomorrow and the first video will be about Viking mentality and runestones so look forward to that and thank you again to all of my supporters who have contributed financially to you on subscribe start you on Patreon etc and since it's Sunday today the training summers will go up later after I have hit the gym and hit the boxing ring as well is what I will do today so have a blessed day ahead and who am I that's a secret I'll never tell xxo boo


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Okay, I'll reconvene the Board of Public Utilities meeting Next item on the agenda is item 4 the approval of the March 21st minutes, which will be duly entered Item 5.1 is a water supply and recycled water supply update. I was actually going to introduce this one if that's okay because We will be having calling close our senior water resources planner doing the first part of our update for water supply But then I'm also very pleased to announce that Joe Schwal has been selected as the deputy director for our regional water reuse operations position Joe has worked for the city for the last 29 years and he most recently was the interim deputy and He started with the city in 1990 as a wastewater operator and has been here since then so There was great competition, and we're very pleased that Joe has been selected and is now our permanent deputy director So thank you for the indulgence to let the board know Thank you, and congratulations on the appointment. We just at lunch We talked about you need you probably need to find a way to shorten The name or get some sort of an acronym. I'm working on an acronym right now And it's just doesn't there's nothing's coming coming easily though Very good Right chair and Galvin members of the board. Thank you very much. So your water supply update for this month will be no surprise Looking at North Lake Mendocino's storage is at a hundred and nine percent of the new Water storage target as you remember last month. We talked about the major Deviation being allowed and so the water agency is able to hold 11 and a half thousand acre feet Additionally in that lake at this point so you can see we're going into the beginning of the year with of the water with pretty good Supply of water in Lake Mendocino So the storage is actually almost eighty nine thousand acre feet and the releases are about 200 cubic feet per second They were as high as seven hundred earlier in the week So they're kind of hovering below level a thousand at this point a lake Pillsbury has 58,500 acre feet of storage about 83 percent of target and Van Arsdale has 345 acre feet so everything is looking quite good due to this rainy season Looking at Lake Sonoma again also in excellent shape a hundred and four percent of the water supply pool at 255,800 acre feet so also in very good shape and the 24 hour average releases are at a thousand cubic feet per second This past week a little above a little below but right about at the thousand cubic feet per second pretty steady with the inflows and the outflows It's at that hundred and four percent of the water supply capacity Also wanted to bring to your attention just three events that are happening locally. I Mentioned last month to you that we would have the pathways to rebuilding landscapes workshop part one in March That was very successful So 55 folks who are rebuilding their homes post fire attended and really appreciated all of the presentations Including Scott moon from the fire department also presented on wildland in urban interface and landscapes that can be more fire resistant so to speak Coming up part two of that workshop will be this Saturday That's the hands-on portion where folks can walk in with ideas about how they're going to use our templates and walk out with approved Landscape plans so 45 folks are already signed up for two sessions There's a 10 to 12 session in a one to three session And so folks are very excited about helping them move through that process and be ready to have Completed approved landscape plans when they leave it within two hours. So so far. I wanted to mention what we've heard from folks downtown is that 117 properties that have submitted landscape plans of those 41% have used our landscape templates so far not including this new batch of folks who are moving through the process so 131 of those properties have used the landscape plan. So that's really Encouraging for us to see such a high adoption rate on those and they're getting great feedback Folks are really appreciating all the work that's been done and that these are available that they're usable and that they're getting the hands-on help They need So that's coming up on saturday Next week on tuesday evening from six to eight at the utility field operations office on april 9th There'll be a composting and verma composting which is worm composting workshop Sponsored by the master gardeners in conjunction with the city and sonoma county waste management agency So participants are going to learn all about how to turn yard waste and kitchen scraps into great composting for their gardens That's a a free activity and they can sign up online to attend that Lastly, I wanted to mention very briefly because you'll hear more about this. I believe at your next meeting Earth Day is happening on april 27th this year our festival Courthouse square 12 to 4 and it's a great fun free activity for all the members of our community to come and learn more About what's happening and how they can support the earth in positive community building ways If there are any questions, i'm happy to take them Any questions for mr. Close? I Don't know if the city water department staff is involved in it But it I believe they ought to be and that is the conversation about the dan arsdale dam and Tearing down scott dam and the things that that will do To the upper watershed that does get into the russian river and that which is not picked up by alexander valley and cloverdeal heelsburg does come down into our Supply system And so I I really think that that's an important discussion That we ought to be participating in And it has changed because of pgne's basically pending withdrawal from Using it for a power source because it's not cost effective that we shouldn't let the water supply Be lost either so great comments and what i'm going to do is defer to director berck We are involved, but I think maybe she can best characterize our involvement today Yeah, and I would also say that the expanded water supply group which met actually yesterday is is With the assistance of staff we're monitoring the situation as well whether we're going to be A participant if you will and in the ultimate solution to the problem remains to be seen there's there's a lot of Fingers in the pie at the moment, but I'll let deputy or director berck Write some additional information. Sure. I think chair galvin gave a good overview. We are following this closely We are working closely with snowman county water agencies snowmawater staff as well as Sort of following this through the tac As well as through the water advisory committee and the water advisory committee or the whack has agreed And put together a whack ad hoc which will allow for additional Information and discussions and information sharing we also At that whack meeting had mentioned that there was an interest in Putting together a an agreement that would allow us to share information and we've done that as well So it's allowing us to have conversations and get updates and start to strategize as we're moving forward Thank you Thank you with that. I'm going to go ahead and turn it over to deputy director schwall to talk about recycled water Good afternoon before I present the Storage curve to show how much the water we've stored so far this winter. I'd like to recap the activities around the storm that we had in february As you all know it was a very significant storm and um The the facility the lugunochino plant considers a 50 million gallon per day Flow to be a big a big day Pretty significant storm During this storm we have six days in a row where our average flow was over 55 million gallons each day the storage The volume of water in storage increased to 150 million gallons in a in a four-day period And that 150 million gallons doesn't really mean a whole lot to me at initially But then I realized that 150 million gallons represents Virtually 10 percent of our entire storage capacity So in four days we Increased our storage, you know, we used 10 percent of our of our capacity and that was while we Were maximizing flow to the geysers as well at an 18 million gallon per day rate Um As you're aware, we did have uh about 120 million gallons of under disinfected effluent leave to plant that was stored in isolation ponds as well as to not contaminate the bulk of our water in storage and also during the uh Storm event we Distra over a 14 day period we discharged 560 million gallons of treated Recycled water That was treated prior to the storm. So it was fully treated water So where we're sitting at now we have just over a billion gallons of Water in storage, which is about where we were a month ago or a little over a month ago before the storm hit Um we the Of the water of the under disinfected water that we captured We have returned 37 million gallons of that back to the plant to be Retreated and put into into storage The remainder of the water of the under disinfected water will be irrigated As uh as allowed per regulations And we continue to manage the storage Uh volume In anticipation of a continued wet spring which could impact our our total irrigation Volume during the rest of the summer certainly it will impact the beginning of the of the season So here's our curve As we sit today The red line is our current Storage capacity And you can see the um, you know very dramatic increase that we uh Experienced at the very end of february and then the uh Resulting decrease from our discharge and then at the end of the discharge how we we continue to increase But as you can see we're crossing that 1,000 million gallons or 1 billion gallon line Just now as we had before the storm hit. So we're um In a good position. We're we're really where we want to be for the for the winter or for the for the spring should say Any questions for the deputy director board member doubt? Mr. Snoll, would you uh just explain in a greater detail on on chart number nine The it says remainder in storage to be used for targeted irrigation as allowed per regulation What does that really mean work when we where can you put it? And What are the regulations I guess right so the regulations for Water that was treated to to the extent that we treated that water were good. It can be used on pasture land As long as uh lactating Animals are not on on the land. It can be used for hay and fodder crops Those are the kind of the most common ones that are at our disposal for that water And and I presume you you have to avoid any runoff from that land Absolutely. Yeah, certainly it as with all of our Irrigated water Other questions or comments Thank you for your presentation and congratulations again on your new appointment. Thank you very much We have no consent items. So we will move on to our one report item item 7.1 On the acceptance of the final total phosphorus blue ribbon panel report interim director Burke Yes, so in follow-up to our study session last Board meeting we have interim deputy director Sean McNeill who's going to Present the report for the board's consideration Okay, good. Good afternoon chair galvin and members of the bp. I'm here to uh bring to you the phosphorus blue ribbon panel final project I just want to kind of go over it with you real quick so start off with a brief history of the uh Nutrient offset requirements that the city faces for our discharge permit I'll go into the purpose that we had for the phosphorus blue ribbon panel Give you some results from the blue ribbon panel and then talk about the next steps so Back in 2006 the city's permit For discharging of our recycled water was that we had a zero net loading for nitrogen and phosphorus This is important to understand that There is trace amounts of phosphorus and nitrogen that is very difficult to remove from our wastewater process That's left over in the recycled water and when you use it in agriculture It's it's great because it's it's a good nutrient for that But when we discharge it into the waterways We needed to come up with one a way to Get that down to zero in 2008 The way that we were able to do that was through a nutrient offset program where we could Look for phosphorus and nitrogen Inputs into the waterways somewhere else and remove those and then come to a net zero from our discharge in 2009 We started developing projects under the nutrient offset program in 2013 We our permit changed every five years we get a new permit and at that time Nitrogen was taken out of our zero net loading. And so now we're just left with phosphorus only in our zero net loading And then one final development that's recently happened is in 2018 the regional water board just adopted a Water quality trading framework What's important to understand about this is our nutrient offset program was an agreement between the city and the water board for our compliance It is not a compliance vehicle for anyone else to use So the regional board had to have something Because they also put zero net loading on the town of windsor's waste water treatment plant discharge And so that's where the water quality trading framework came in So the city's phosphorus compliance strategy has been relatively simple First is to maximize our reuse and minimize our discharges Also to decrease the phosphorus levels in our recycled water and finally To offset any discharges via these nutrient offset projects It's important to understand what our supply looks like or what our What we're doing with our water. So in 2004 Probably the biggest nutrient offset project we have today is The geysers project and you can see here with millions of gallons on the y-axis and Discharge here the season On the x-axis 2004 the blue bars all represent the geysers green bars represent the Mount that we use in irrigation both urban and agriculture And then the red bars Represent our discharge and you can see since the geysers started in 2004. There's dramatically less red bars red portions on our our bars and in our Water reuse so we're looking over time to reduce the amount of phosphorus That's a dramatic showing that a reduction in phosphorus the less we discharge the less phosphorus Is that we need to make up What's important? Let me go back. Sorry. What's important to understand about this since the geysers come on Our discharge has gone from discharging every year to Just occasionally and that's weather based when we discharge. So in high rain activities In years with high amounts of rain. That's when we have to discharge So we're only having to have offsets for those rainy seasons It'll it'll become a little more important You'll understand a little more why that's important when I talk about what our how we go about doing these nutrient offset projects So far to date. We've done three separate projects. We had the Beretta dairy project. This was a manure and pasture management uh program we were able to Uh concentrate cows moving from the barn The milking barns out to the fields and to a concentrated area and have all that runoff Go to a pond instead of to a local waterway That pepper would preserve We did some road and drainage improvements on that property. It's important for the board to understand that A significant source of phosphorus into watersheds is tied to sediment So any projects that control sediment getting into waterways Also, we'll reduce phosphorus getting in and that's how we got uh phosphorus credits from that and then in the ocean view dairy the That project was a closed dairy which left behind a big pond Full of waste that needed to be dealt with and so the city came in hired contractors It has scooped out all the all the uh manure in that pond and used it for land application in agricultural settings And we got a bunch of credits for that as well And here's just kind of a summary of the cost and you could see the costs of these projects were ranging about a half a million dollars a piece But the but they generated very different numbers of credits from beretta about 7600 credits to ocean view dairy 23 000 so the cost per credits varied from 20 to 67 dollars Moving forward. We don't see that future nutrient offset projects Will come in like the ocean view dairy. That was a uh a special case And we staff anticipate that many of the projects that come in would probably be at 67 dollars per credit or greater depending on What that project is So I just want to give you a sense of The process that we go through to get a project the reason why we only have three projects so far Is that this process is is is very challenging? So we start off by the city identifying a project right there at the top box and then we Identify a project that we think might have some phosphorus offset Then we talk to a landowner and begin negotiations with them to have us do that project They agree we go ahead and Calculate the amount of credits that we could generate from that project We bring that for the board to review and approve us to move forward If that's approved then we go to the regulators This is this is one of those challenges that we've had the regulators then need to approve that project Uh if they do then we can build and verify those credits and then eventually we'll generate a report And then that report basically Gives us the credits Once that report is submitted anywhere along this chain a project can get kicked back stalled And the communication can can be very challenging particularly in working with landowners on this It could take one two maybe three years before a project actually gets done Where a lot of people say hey, I could have done that in three months Really? Yes, we could have done it in three months But this is the process we have to go through to make sure that this Is is we're going to get credits from it before we pay for it So with that challenge we came up with a a concept of There's got to be a better way status quo is not okay Let's convene a phosphorus blue room panel and really take a look at the issues in the watershed and how We could possibly look at this differently So we explored an alternative means of compliance through this Fosterous blue room panel panel to support the watershed. How could the city Both meet its compliance and support the watershed So we're not in that place where we're doing projects that the environmental organizations are very upset with Because they meet the intent of the regulation, but they're not necessarily having a big impact on water quality on the ground So we looked for a the city really needed a Consistent compliance approach where we do something we get compliance That's been the challenge with the nutrient offset project. We do something We have to go through all these different steps and we don't know if we're going to get compliance So we wanted to also support ongoing Reliable water quality benefits in the laguna the laguna is a beautiful waterway Right runs through all of the city farms We Our residents probably recreate around it is a great Place we would want to make sure that we Are doing the best that we could with our compliance dollars And then we want to assure the ratepayers that these are cost effective phosphorus reductions that we're not chasing our tail After phosphorus credits that we may or may not need because our discharge is episodic And the thing I didn't mention Is that those credits have a life span? They're not you get a credit. They last forever You get a credit and they might disappear before you use them and they might disappear before you need them And so looking at an alternative to that Chasing our tail was the the grand purpose of this phosphorus blue panel the panel members, uh, it's kind of uh, we had Two regulators Amelia witson from epa region nine. We had matt st. John from the regional board. We also had two Uh, non-profit organizations focused on water quality You know, we had the russian river keeper don mackinill. We had wendy tro bridge from the laguna de senorosa foundation We also had two members from the uh economic community We had euthan brown from the county's economic development board and then alice and picoli representing the north Northern california restaurant association We had two academics michael cullen from sinoma state and john larger from uc davis and uh, we had lisa, uh, chair chairperson, uh, lisa lisa bayden fort has a representative Uh, we did have a facilitator on this program. That was davis seppos From the center for collaborative policy and he came and really helped us through this process The blue room panel had three separate meetings Each about three hours. We completed a report in december 2018 And we're bringing that not on march 5th, but we're bringing it on april fourth To the bpu for acceptance And then possibly a presentation to the regional board's uh board When they they meet again, I don't think we'll be able to do it this april So the blue ribbon panel informational topics that we discussed And shared with the panel was the natural history of the laguna de senorosa So make sure that all the panel members understood what is the water body we're talking about? What are the impairments in the water body and what are the uh special organisms that uh are Use this water body We also introduced the recycled water reuse program. This is something that's usually news to people So when the city of senorosa discharges, that's news It's not news when any other wastewater treatment plant discharges because that's the normal way So that's that was really interesting for the committee to understand They did they did you know that our discharge is episodic, but we have a regulation that really requires A constant discharge because then it makes sense to have credits come and go But when we don't discharge, which is what they want, which is what we want We could be going after credits that we don't need We also highlighted nutrient regulations in other regions. This is the only Water quality trading program in the state We're rather unique We're we're by far not the worst of the dischargers out there. So so it feels a little And possibly came across a little unfair this regulation And that phosphorus removal through treatment was an option and we presented that as as an option to the board that we could do and that the We also let the regional water board present their water quality trading framework To the panel so that we did it wasn't just the city's perspective But we really tried to have it open so the panel had all the information of what's going on in the system in the system So one of the things that I think was another Interesting to the panel was taking a look at where where is the phosphorus coming from in this watershed? What are the large impairments and so here on the Y-axis we have phosphorus in pounds per year This is pounds coming from these different land types and from the city center as is discharged into the laguna So forests under 5 000 pounds agriculture up to about 115 000 pounds of Fosters per year urban this will be our ms4 and suburban areas about 45 000 pounds per year Other sort of industrial sites and other land use cladifications that don't fall into those other three relatively small in the county relatively small input Compare that to the city of santa rosa's discharge. We're the only one with discharge requirements Of any numeric value We're less than two percent of the phosphorus loading in the system. Yeah, we're the only ones regulated So just by doing these little nutrient offset projects, there's no way this little amount That's the city's discharge can have any appreciable effect of the phosphorus entering into the watershed each day each year And that's really part of the impetus of looking at an alternative compliance approach So getting to our episodic discharges. This is a little bit of a complicated graph So what we have is our discharge is the red line going through the geysers Pipeline starts in 2004 and you can see the trend for that red line drops and stays near zero many years Just going up in heavy rainfall years the blue bars represent rainfall And so really this is what's driving our compliance is the the blue bars the amount of rainfall that we get Is driving compliance and that's not a great place to be because we can't really predict the Rainfall that we're going to get each year. What is it that? weather Climates what you expect, but weather is what you get So that's what we're seeing here is that with with future climate change We could see longer periods of droughts with much wetter years and tying our compliance to something as Un Unable for us to plan as rainfall. It just doesn't make sense So the desired outcomes that the city had for this phosphorus balloon panel was really to replace our no net loading Of phosphorus in our npds permit Renewal with some type of an alternative compliance approach to create information sharing and collaboration between the city Local nongovernmental organizations regulators the business community and academic institutions Not to be bold to say that we have all the answers, but to really reach out to the community for a community driven mechanism to move forward And to assure the rate pair is that the rates meet the regulations in the most cost effective in environmentally beneficial manner So the city did at the end of of this in the third meeting We did present a joint proposal between the city of sanarosa and the laguna foundation and The russian river keeper where the city would commit up to 250 000 per year throughout the permit term For laguna restoration and and or water quality monitoring However, we that the regional board thought it appropriate We really believed water water quality monitoring was a good idea early on especially pre having a tmdl in the watershed because The more information we have about the impairments of the watershed and the locations of where those impairments are coming in The better we can target our resources to correcting those actions And then we also had offered Realizing that it would be a cost to implement this program An additional 25 000 per year for nonprofit to manage this program And that city staff would still be available just as we are now with the nutrient offset program to support this process moving forward So that's the proposal Generically that we've presented to the to the regional board and to the blue room panel So the next steps are for the blue room panel Is now completed its work The today before you is a decision to accept this report And that the bpu and staff could prevent present the findings of this report to the The north coast regional water quality control board. This is something when we protested The water quality trading framework the board Chair had asked if when the blue room panel was completed if we would come and present in front of them So that would be part of the plan and then to negotiate an alternative compliance with the regional board staff As we're right now in the midst of negotiating our Discharge compliance uh permit So before you today is the recommendation the staff recommends that the board of public utilities accept the phosphorus blue room panel report That i'll take any questions Thank you, uh, vice chair or noni Two quick questions. First of all is a credit equal to a pound of phosphorus A credit is equal to a pound of phosphorus of discharge But to make it a credit It might take two or three pounds of offset to make it one credit So it's not that's considered a ratio. It's not a one-to-one ratio where we offset one pound of credit We get one pound of discharge available It depends on the type of project and the The certainty or uncertainty that we have with What kind of phosphorus credits that project generates? Okay. Thank you. My second question is Could you explain briefly? What is the water quality trading framework? Is it a mechanism for trading nutrient offset? Credit projects is that is it what it sounds like or that's exactly what it is so It's set up to be that to take the nutrient offset program and turn that more into a water quality trading framework It's currently not fully developed So it's much harder to step in as a tool and with this city and the town of winzers The town of winzers discharge it and their needs are relatively small in the hundreds to 200 Pounds per year our average Need would be about 3600 pounds per year but Without the tmdl in a waste load allocations and other entities having to enter a marketplace It really isn't a marketplace. There aren't buyers and sellers and because these things have Times I just met with the freshwater trust today They said because those credits have a lifespan It really makes it not something investors would want to invest in Because they would have to take that risk and gamble sure we'd love there to be a market that when we need to discharge We call up and we purchase those credits. We make our discharge. We have compliance, but that's not Really how it would work Um, and it's not how it's set up right now. Thank you Board member banister so I have some familiarity with the nop from my days at the laguna foundation and um in reading through and also the regional boards Requirements and in reading through the study sessions And your presentation a couple of questions come up one is you allude to phosphorus removal as one Way of getting there so that when you discharge there's no phosphorus in the water Done right You kind of went by that one without any further comment. Can you elaborate on that and why that's not a viable option? it well It could be a viable option It's it is an option on the table. Uh, it is expensive um, we would to get to zero Not necessarily possible But to get much lower Is possible, but we may have to make a lot of major changes to the treatment process to get there We are currently in the process of Piloting some efforts to reduce our phosphorus by adding alum to the To the water, but I also just want to remind that this remind the board that The recycled water actually has beneficial uses of that nitrogen and phosphorus on agricultural reuse And so there are benefits for it being there should we take all that out It would then need to be imported in For those irrigation land so it becomes that we now make our recycled water less Desirable to our ag users at the same time. We've increased the treatment expense And then we still haven't gotten to zero So speaking of those agricultural users that looked like A really big bang for the buck since they are the biggest contributors to phosphorus in the waterway Why isn't that I mean and you have an example program there with the burrata dairy Why aren't you looking at other dairies to accomplish reductions in phosphorus loading? It's challenging Um This process we worked with burrata dairy. We have a long relationship with uh, dug burrata and because of that He has patience for working with us through this process It's not that easy when you tell somebody you're going to do something And you're met with oh well well not this month not this month. Oh that season's done Maybe next year. We'll get the approval. I know it'll happen. Oh, there's tiger salamanders Okay, we'll we'll address that, you know It starts to sound like a lot of excuses so It's challenging this process as it's outlined because We can't just go in and say we'll do that project and get a credit We have to go through that whole process And you were I believe at the laguna foundation when we were doing the lid wiggy a project Which was an idea of the bend so So it's challenging to get that but under this program You can bet we would continue to look at all potential cost effective Options on the table But there is now a dairy permit and the dairy permit's getting revised And as that revisions to the dairy permit come in they're going to be more responsible for their discharge Therefore, they're not credit worthy projects So many of our projects have kind of fallen out of or the easier projects have fallen out of Being above and beyond what's required for dairies So speaking of the board not approving the science on that project This proposal the $250,000 for laguna restoration and water quality monitoring Sounds good, but I know that matt st. John and dave kuzma were part of the Blue ribbon panel. Did you get indications? What's their approval? I mean, this is fairly non-specific and I know that they want Very specific Calculations about the amount of phosphorus before they're going to approve any program But this doesn't have that. I mean, well, they have to approve each use of the annual $250,000, you know and and those calculations and Is this going anywhere? I guess it's the question I would say that They're open to looking at this in a different way Whether or not this will go anywhere I think you could say that Of the goals that we had set out for the phosphorus blue ribbon panel increasing awareness About this issue with our ratepayers with the academics and the ngo's That has been very successful through this phosphorus blue ribbon panel Have there been some changes to the water the interpretation of the water quality trading framework since this phosphorus blue ribbon panels come out Which it looks like they're looking at as the new law of the land It does appear that there are some changes There's nothing written down, but there have been some verbal discussions around that The alternative compliance approach is well supported. I don't I wouldn't say that it's um Assumed to be approved, but it really is I don't want to get into too much of the details But the zero net loading still is not our final allocation of phosphorus And there's there's a there's some legal room to reinterpret that requirement that could allow this alternative compliance approach to move forward And get away from the phosphorus accounting Because that's not part. I mean that's not part of this annual Allocation for rest or I mean that in the past I think they've shown it's been difficult to Specify the amount of Phosphorus reduction from let's say a riparian restoration program where something along those lines They just can't get the numbers To the point where they're satisfied with them and that has it that been a problem in the past That has been our problem and we did work with the freshwater trust We did evaluate the lower golden creek restoration project and it seems that most of the credits That can be found are in the sediment removal And the increase of a seminal of capacity, which is the amount that the watershed could absorb through the usually plant life or whatever other biological actions that occur The increase from restoration isn't relatively large It's nothing like picking up manure out of Potential ponds that might breach Nothing like 20 dollars per credit. Yeah, I would just say it's that The alternative proposal that's put forward is a starting point for further and ongoing discussions with the regional board staff I think you're right. There is a An interest in a requirement that there be an excess To that you show an excess between what you're doing and the phosphorus requirement and that is a hurdle And we are talking about that and we're going to continue to be talking to the board about You know the next round Our our next round of permitting and what that looks like and we're hopeful that at least This will provide a foundation and a starting point for discussions Okay, thank you I agree with many of the questions that the board member banister just expressed I think i'll be inclined to be supportive of the staff's recommendation but i feeling like It's a walk in the dark And I don't have any sense. I mean the thing the thing that probably gives me the most Comfort about it is that St. John was on the BRP And at least he knows fully what's been going on in the discussions But I just don't feel like there's any commitment from the north coast region water quality control board to find a Reasonable and responsible way To reduce the phosphorus load from anything that we might discharge. It just It just doesn't seem that there's a commitment Uh and I think while I would approve you I would vote for approval of the submission of this I Would be very reserved about approving that first 20 250 thousand dollar expenditure Until I was sure that there was at least some buy-in from them Yeah, if I could just um add I I think both Board Member Bannister and Board Member Dowd bring up a lot of the the concerns and issues that we have with this process and project in terms of our no-net load for phosphorus and We do think this was a good exercise in that it provided some information and education But you are completely correct. There is no commitment on behalf of the board This is as as was mentioned By assistant city attorney mclean, it's what we're a starting point for some conversations and it will be useful with our permit negotiations, but there is There is no commitment and it is um Likely that we're going to be having further discussions with the board Very likely we will be having further discussions with the board in relation to permit negotiations, but it's a starting point it provides some information and um Uh, I think the good thing is that the regional board was was part of the process with the executive officer being there so at least Some of our concerns were heard whether or not they will be Included is is a different conversation, but at least they were heard Any other board member questions or comments? I do have one speaker card randa adelman Probably easiest if you just sit at the table right there with shawn Brenda adelman russian river worship protection committee And i'm going to say something that may shock some of you But I have some sympathy for your situation and I really appreciate the level of discourse right now and I also sympathize with um the regional board and that just Handing someone some money Doesn't necessarily achieve the goal that you'd like to achieve and that there really needs To have some kind of detailed plan about how the money would be used um another factor that wasn't emphasized is the unpredictability of the Weather and the range of possibilities And it's been wonderful that you haven't had to discharge Very much, but after winter like this one, there's no way of predicting which way it's going to go in the future and I'm just curious if you know how many credits You would have to come up with for just this year's Discharges, I don't think that was mentioned um Then the other thing I want to mention is there there is a legacy issue that The reason there such a stringent requirement placed in your permit at this time Is because of the long history of discharges that have left the The river with very severe phosphorus Excedences and I've been asking for tmdl on phosphorus, which is much worse than the bacteria they've been working on for 10 years so that's just my two cents and um I think There does need to be a lot more discussion and negotiation and hopefully they'll you'll be able to come up with something I wish I had solutions to offer but I can't think of any at this point And um, I just want to stay involved with the dialogue. Thank you Thank you for your comments interim director McNeil, do we have a way to compute? just one second the number of Credits we would have needed for the discharge this year We are in the process of doing those calculations right now And that's part of our discharge compliance. So we just completed our First monthly report which covered the first two days of the discharge But we haven't calculated the phosphorus yet that that's due to the regional board by july 1 But we could we could bring that back to this board once once we get that information Thank you board member badford Thank you. I'm trying to Envision some more practical specifics and it I'm inclined to Support what what almost appears like a pilot Program almost but I'm curious about what the process would be Upon this being adopted would then Would then a conversation about a program then return back here before Um an annual contribution would begin would we would we then really Do a program development and design process through this department So I just want to be clear that that was just one of Six different proposals that were put forth in the blue room panel report The your acceptance of the report would not direct staff in any way Around any of those proposals We have talked a little bit about the initial proposal that that we put together We did come to the board Prior to bringing it to the blue ribbon panel And the cost was based on our average spend for nutrient offset per year Over the last eight years of implementing this program so it if There was a project to be developed or a new program to be developed We would definitely bring it back to this board for review and guidance before we moved Forward with anything so really before you is just accepting the report as written Not really choosing any one of the potential Alternative compliance options that were identified by the panel members I just highlighted the one that we came up with i'm kind of partial to it And it just it happens that we are in the process now of our next permit Negotiations so every five years we our npds discharge permit is renewed And the the timing of the blue ribbon panel I don't think was An accident that it's done to help inform the process in the next discussions and negotiations with the regional Board on our permit This is just a document for information To share and hopefully to share with the regional water quality control board Board of directors at some point so we can Help educate the process And then we will be Discussing and and and with the with this with the board of public utilities A lot more in the near future about the ongoing negotiations and process Of what our permit might look like and how this kind of Concept may or may not be able to play into our ultimate Permit and what that looks like so this is just a sort of a foundational exercise And then we'll have further discussions and we are still I think as interim deputy director pointed out that We are still looking for alternatives to the status quo because the status quo has been very difficult and potentially very Increasingly expensive to implement We continue to operate under that nutrient offset program And we are also have the option of operating under the water quality trading framework, which was adopted We currently have both options Because we're in that interim period between permits It's expected that potentially The nutrient offset program as we operate under now would would go away But that's all part of the ongoing discussion and permit negotiation process that we're right now involved in With the regional board so there will be more to come to To all of you on on that piece Thank you That helps quite a bit It does just to At least my sense of this is that there's a very clear Preference With with all of the options and alternatives that are put forward In the report and there are other Elements that I would say as I as I read through Increasing storage for example that might not be full blown alternatives But things that have come up With this department and with this board that I would like to return to so I guess the request Today is The hope that a conversation Following back around with ample time To really engage affected stakeholders as well as the bpu Um We appreciate it. Thank you Yes, we will be we will be engaging in that discussion board member banister this is um, I wanted to take the opportunity to note that brenda edelman was recently recognized by their water board and Like to say thank you. They were thanking you and I would Personally at least like to also thank you for your decades of work on water quality in the uh, russian river watershed So congratulations on that Any other board member questions or comments? If not, uh, the staff is looking for a motion for us to Accept the report I so move A second Motion by board member dowd seconded by board member batten fort to approve item 7.1 and accept the blue ribbon panel report all in favor say I I any opposed Passes unanimously with one absence Item 8 is public comments on non-agenda matters We have no referrals No written communications any subcommittee reports I alluded to the fact that the expanded water supply Committee met yesterday And we got an update on the groundwater sustainability agency And how that is progressing And we also discussed the potter valley project that I alluded to in response to board member dowd's comments Other reports yes board member watts the water conservation subcommittee met this week and We got an update in all the activities that are happening throughout the month of May and it's going to be a very busy month for To the water department and the water conservation team. Um, and so They also discussed the nominees for the awards this year. It's going to be presented. I think may 7th to the city council And there are a list of great recipients that have done Above and beyond to really conserve water not just for themselves, but also In light of the fire and the rebuild process, which is a new Part that was added this year And so those will be there if any board members are able to come on march may 7th to city council And some grant opportunities that they are seeking as well Board member dowd Just at this public dais I want to repeat my comment that I made in the Study session for the budget review subcommittee. I appreciate the work of board member Watts and board member grable That served with me on the budget review subcommittee And you saw the work product that was developed by kimberley deputy director kimbley zanino and her group and we reviewed it over three different meetings Well, I would just like to echo my thanks to the budget subcommittee because I know how much time it took for you to get through everything and particularly with Two newer members of that subcommittee having to wade through everything So thanks to the three of you for the time that you devoted to Getting us to this point Any other subcommittee reports? Any board member reports Then we'll move to interim director burke for the director's report Thank you. I just have a few things to update the board on First um since we last since the last board meeting. We actually had two events That occurred uh sunday march 17th was the santa rosa saint patrick's day 5k and it was also the kickoff of our fixa leak week And that event was a great event and proceeds benefited the santa rosa wrecking parks various programs And we participated we handed out over or just about a hundred leak detection kits To participants and their guests and we also had our hydration station there and It was very successful Folks came up and drank a lot of water, which was great. We were competing with beer. So that's always hard and And then we also got to promote our um 10th annual earth day event Which is coming up which you'll hear about more at the next board meeting And then staff also attended the um sazer shaves festival at bear farm And that was also a great event where we had lots of folks attending And we're able to provide lots of information on our various water smart rebates Which was great also wanted to let the board know that um In past years, we've been following some legislation known as the drinking water tax and that has uh come back around again so in uh 2017 and again in 2018 The city of santa rosa had taken opposed positions to a proposed water tax And the water tax really is looking at trying to have a funding mechanism to provide Funding to disadvantage communities that need assistance from a water supply perspective, whether it's Making improvements to their infrastructure to dealing with water quality issues So those bills had a lot of attention and because there was a lot of discussion They actually kind of turned into two-year bills and then didn't move forward And now this year Governor Newsom has introduced the water tax again and put it forward as a budget trailer bill And then there are three bills a b 217 from garcia a b 134 from bloom and sb 200 from monning That are also proposing a water tax So we're following these bills closely in addition to Santa Rosa all water Industry for the most part are following these bills very closely and are concerned about them and recommending opposed positions and the thought is proposing a different mechanism which is known as a water trust that could be used to provide the funding needed for um disadvantage communities Although we think the intent is is good uh for the water To provide assistance the concern with the water tax is that Our community would would likely not see any return of that investment So the tax would be collected it would go to the state and then it would be redistributed and we we don't think we would see any of that Money back here. It would also Cause an increase to our water bills. So we're concerned about that the the alternative that's being proposed is The water trust and that would be an option where the state would take Surplus general fund money Which is a good time this year because they actually have quite a bit of it and invest it and then use the investment in those proceeds To provide that funding for those disadvantaged communities. So that's what's being proposed by the water industry We're following both Or all four of these bills and we'll keep the board updated as that process goes along We are potentially going to look to see if the city council will take a position on those bills as well And then last I wanted to just provide a quick update on The recycle water ag fees. Um, we had yesterday Meeting with our user group So when we started this process Of the roughly 50 agricultural recycle water customers We reached out to all of them and asked if there were any that would be interested in participating in a user's group And six, um volunteered So yesterday we we met with them after putting out a couple different communications and emails and we're really trying to get an update on Communication what works best for them We were we're going over the fee proposal and process with them again And then starting to review an initial draft of the proposed agreement for agricultural recycle water use It was a really good meeting. Um, we had really good positive response from the five users who are able to attend and They gave us some feedback on communication and preferred that We looked to do hard copies and mailings which we'll do And we also committed to really trying to get better outreach out there So we're working on some frequently asked questions as well as developing a webpage Putting all this information out so that we have a a centered central place where folks can go if they have questions Or don't know what's going on with this process We also got no concerns about the current fee proposal and process and some comments on the initial draft agreement So we will be putting together another user group later this month And then we will be scheduling an ad hoc meeting probably in a Not too distant future after we I will say we also did get a letter from tawny tascone who's the executive director of the farm bureau and she did allay some concerns as well as had some questions and Based on her letter, we will be looking to meet with her and provide information, but it did clearly Indicate that there is a lot of misinformation that's out there and that we think that by providing frequently asked questions And a web page and really having a lot more resources for folks It'll clear up a lot of that misinformation that's out there So we just wanted to provide an update to the board on on that process and more to come as that continues to develop Any questions for the interim director Hearing none. Thank you all for being here. We'll adjourn the meeting


What's going on everyone Sam here with late in sports cards. We are doing 2022 community score football hobby six box break number one random team style. Here again is a list of your random results. As always you can find these on the website under the results tab as well as the link and chat. Good luck everyone. See what we got in here. Let's do it. So that base will be randomly split to all at the end.  So I'll make separate piles for the rookies and the vet base. So we'll just kind of go quickly through the vet base. They're all the same. Every single pack of scores basically like produce the same. So it's all like vet base in the beginning here. So we can just kind of scroll through that. Then you got your rookies here. Sam Howell. Evan Neil. James Williams. Abakite. Jeremy Rucker. Sam Howell rookie. AJ Brown. Triple. I'll just do a dice roll for all of these. So I guess one two three four five six. That'll go for the entire break. So one two three four five and six. That is a six. So that'll go to the bottom right for the entire break for these these cards right here. Unless it's a one of one or an autograph or numbered to like ten. So yeah that'll go to the bottom right. Hot rookies is Stingley Jr. and Gray is Michael Pittman. Vet base. Andra Booth. Pickins. There's Trayvon Walker. Rookie. Jags. Son Haskin. There's Hot Rookie. Matt Carell. Squad. Miami Dolphin. Justin Jefferson. Total line. It's going right bottom right with Cordell Patterson and Perian Winfrey 59 out of 100 for the routes. Yeah true. Everything else he does sell or give away his PC. It's first rookie here. Carson Strong. Watson. Sauce Gardner. Tray McBride. Breakthrough Givante. Brie Tall. Devonta Smith. Squad Raven. That's cool. And Jeremy Chin Gray for the Panthers. Camera down just a bit. I think the camera feels like it's thick. You did? Yeah. Fair enough. Understandable. Too bad I told before you told them. I told them that you broke it. So they knew that. They knew that. Shailen Weidermeyer. Bottom right with Michael Carter. Squad. 400 points. Random to all at the end. And Isaiah Spiller on the gray. Rookie. Tripping that thing down. Do you want mine over here? Okay. Drake London rookie. Yeah. Zemir what you want to if you want to come see the base first you can come in and look at it yourself. There's Malik Willis rookie. Show all the bit. Who is this guy? There's Kenny Pickett hot rookie. That's going bottom right with Najee and Micah Parsons. The 35. Six out of 35. Look at the force. The force goes show all the base. Yeah this guy. Don't you have like a wedding to be at in Philly? I know. Guy literally goes all the way to Philadelphia just to come in and mess with me and Shad. Breeze Hall rookie. Mechie Pierce Rigger. Davis. There's Kyren Williams. Breakthrough squad. Eagles. Got Kayla Bellaby. It's going to be your first technical auto. Second hit right there. And Harrison Smith. That is preposterous behavior. Didn't go to sleep last night. Forrest partying way too hard. Forrest what's the weather like there? It's nippy here. We've got CJ Verdel rookie. Tibidove, Stingley, Datsun. Hot rookie kind of walker going to the Seahawks. Drake London. Roger McCreary next auto. Going to the Titans. Not number. Nice hit there Titans. Jake Plummer. Nippy and it's like 73. Yeah that's us. It's going to be like 35 tomorrow. Good lord dude. That's freezing. We've got Marc Gasineau. That's going to be David Dejabo. Nice man. Enjoy it. Chris Olave. Bottom right to JT Evans. Traylon Berks. And Zeke Elliott. Well they're supposed to be beautiful here too. High 50s, low 60s. That's nice. It's 38 last night in NC. That's too cold dude. Yeah that's freezing here. Abrams Smith. Hutchinson. Linderbaum. Strong. Right with Joe Mixon. Hutchinson. Hunter Renfrow. There's a Josh Allen on the gray. And last pack of box one. Set your missing nice weather in Florida. Got Kobe Bryant. Tyler Algier. Got a Jerry Judy autograph. Going to the Broncos. Not numbered. Nice one there. Broncos. And blue Clyde Edwards-Hallert. Do you know, Forrest, do you know Sean broke the camera? Sean broke the breaking camera. Just randomly came in one night after hours and just smashed the breaking camera. And I was like, what are you doing dude? I was like, look, look, this is awesome. I was like, bro, you're breaking that thing man. No, no, no, no. Oh man. All I know is they have video evidence of Sean breaking in and breaking the camera. Uh, Marvin Leo. Can you pick it hot rookies? We've got nice Kenneth Walkerado. There you go, Seattle. Paul N. Nice Kenneth Walkerado. Then we've got the Bonte Price. Rookie seven out of 20. Yeah, there is a lot of bass. I don't know why Autofill went with you have. LOL, you have. Samless food and disrespect for the camera. Jason Williams. Deontay Johnson, Johan Dotson, Logan Thomas on the gray. Yeah, these things are like, the cases of score are like, like 50 pounds, dude. It's unreal. It's a whole cardboard. Uh, Johan Dotson bass. Take care of the camera. Try it for us. I got, I got to like elbow Sean away from the camera. Every time. Uh, Jaylen Watermire. That's going to the bills. Nice one here. Going to the Steelers. How about a Kenny Pickett gray frame or gray border dunk gray frames? This isn't Diamond Kings. There you go. Nice one there. Steelers. That is, uh, Long Jack. Congrats, Long. All right. We're starting with Kyron Williams. There's a Malik Willis Rookie. Marquise Brown, Bills, Watermire, and Eric Stokes on the second year. That is, uh, not six. What that year? Oh, that, with the Steelers. It's actually not in this though. Can't get the Steelers if we don't buy into the break. Go on Bruce here. Traylon Burks. Breakthrough, uh, T-Lock, Garrett Wilson, Breeze Hall, Squad Colts, and Jerry Rice. Nice one there. That is 86 out of 100. This is a lot of base. I didn't realize like doing one box into this isn't like crazy, but then when you do six boxes of it, a lot of base cards, man. We've got Kenny Pickett, Rookie, Steelers, there are Bailey Zappy, the Patriots, Pickins, Walker, Powell, Brown, and Foyer Alokon for the, you know, these Falcons. Nick Benito. Spiller Breakthrough. That is bottom right here. We got a JK Dobbins. On the Gold Auto, two out of 50. There you go, Greg. Greg, getting the Ravens Auto there. Grats, Greg. And Charbarious Ward. Jones is stocking up on Bailey Zappy. Probably. I bet he is a Lucis. What's up Lucis? Been a minute, man. I wonder what this is all about.  What's this? This is going to be about Hassan Haskins and Kobe Dean Breakthrough. We've got that's five out of 10, Landon Collins going to the Commanders. Five out of 10 on the LC. Yeah, Baltimore stand up, baby. Oh yeah. You know it, Greg. That is Corbin. Got wild card points coming up here. Just going to give that to Sean now. Base and a client Edward Tolaire. That is 39 out of 50 going to the Chiefs, Mike Evans, and Zach Wilson. He's going to kick my ball into the woods every time. When me and Sean go golf, I'm going to do that to him.  He's walking up to the T-Box. I'm just going to strike him right in the back of his knees. God. You're right in the Achilles. You do get a lot of autos out of score, which I kind of like. Plus all the rookies are in their pro unis this year, so I'm good with score this year. It's Kenny Pickett Rookie, Pickett and Zappie. Pickins, Sam Howe, AJ Brown, and that is Ikem Ekuanu, 36 out of 100. Yeah, I bet all those aren't bad. We always pull a lot of decent stuff. I do kind of agree with that, though, six. Mleek Willis Rookie, especially Ravens fans. Yeah. Yeah, we're supposed to get our card, six. Jaylen Wattemeyer going to the, where's he? Bills, I think? Kibon Thibodeau, one out of 50. There you go, Giants. Nice one there. Desmond Ritter. Aziz Ojalari, that is 23 out of 50 on the Gold Auto, second year. Giants. And Corey Davis-Gray. Andrew Booth, Junior Gray. The difference is one goes dead 10, or the other goes dead right. I know, honestly. I want to see where you play the ball in your stance. Yeah. That's what I'm interested in. Greg Rousseau, nice one there. Another Gold Auto, 27 out of 50, the Bills. And Ricky Moester, minors. Yeah, that's what I usually do.  Me too, 100%. I think I've been standing too close to my irons. Yeah, that might be the reason there. Pascans. Hunter Renfro on the Auto this time, not numbered. Going to the Raiders. And nice, Desmond Ritter on the Gray. Oh, absolutely always a great group in here. A bunch of characters for sure. Big time cast of characters. Rookie Skymore, Hutchinson, Munderbaum, Berks, Shakir, Resol, and Brian Dawkins going to the Eagles. Nice gray. I haven't even made a dent in this. That's what I'm saying, man. It's like sauce gardener. Chris Olavet and Jeremy Chin on the Gray. Now I'm going to show all the base now. I'm going to do a dice roll for every single one of those triples. It's insane, dude. It is a lot. It's Evan Neal. Azucanma, Jeremy Rucker, Brees Hall, Renfro, Weidermeyer, and Gray Randy Moss. Nice one there, Vikes. And last pack of box three. There's Alec Pierce. There's a hot rookie of Kenny Pickett. We've got Mack Jones. Wow, second year auto. There you go, Patriots. I was not expecting a Mack to be in there. There you go, New England. Martin C. That's Martin. And Jaylee Petrae. We're on to box four. There's time that I got on these. I got plenty. That's a 10-40. Which gave me like, how much time did you just give me? You just gave me a 50 minutes on this. No, 45 minutes on this. That's wild, dude. Pull that sticker off, put it on a prison silver. Headed to Amazon to buy heat gun. James Williams. That is Austin Hooper. Gold, that's a 32 out of 50 for the Browns. And Gray, D'Yammy Brown, second year. I wonder if Scourage is in here. Jaylen Watermire. Isaiah Spiller. T. Higgins on the gray. Got Isaiah Lakely. John Walker again. Wandaille Robinson. Hutchinson. Ritter. And that is four of six. I'm going to do a separate dice roll for this one. So one, two will be Waddle, three, four. No, one, two will be Dak. Sorry about that. Three, four will be Waddle. Five, six will be Mixon. So one, two, three, four, five, six. Once again, one more time. One, two, three, four, five, six. What? No, this is separately. It's for this one because this one's four out of six. Yeah. Oh, I got you. I got you, sir. Yeah, no, you're good. So just tag this one. Trevor Teen gets it. So again, last time I will do it. One, two, three, four, five, six. Good luck. That's going three. That's going to Waddle. Four out of six. One, two, three, four, five, six. So that's going to Waddle. I'm three. There you go. Dolphins. Yeah, Andrew. They'll go after the main breaks. Once group breaks are done for the night, we'll do personals. Yes, sir. We got Devante Price on the rookie auto going to the Colts and we've got Devin McCordy, 36 out of 50. Patriots, Traylon Brooks, Kenneth Walker. We've got Nico Collins on the second year auto going to the Texans. We've got Isaiah Simmons. It's evolving. Six just said Layton bought a spamming and then he called it out saying he's spamming and stopped spamming. Six, he just scared it. It will. It'll boot you offline. It's dad works for Microsoft. It'll hack your account. It'll leak Will's rookie. That is Jeffrey Simmons on the gray. John Dotson, Felix Jones, John Dotson. We got a two auto. Wow. Good quarterbacks coming out of this. Can't complain. There you go, Miami. Nice. And a Kenneth Walker gray for the Seahawks. Three to go out of this one. Good bets in this for sure. Sam Howell and Jaylen Phillips on the gray. James Cook rookie breakthrough. Kavon Tibido. It's got Curtis Martin on the blue. That is 83 out of 100 jets. There you go, in New York. All right. Last pack of box four. We're getting there guys. We are getting there is John Matching. Damian Pierce, Ritter, Holbert and Alec Pierce on the gray. Going to Colts rookie. Good luck Layton bought. There is rookies. Here is base. Now that bot is my computer is a Navy Seal. Squad chiefs. That's Donovan McNabb going to the Eagles on the gray. Do you like licorice? It's not black. Thank you. How you never had a regular twizzler? Technically, uh, is it really? Yeah. Like, I just don't know about licorice with the black races. We've got Zemir White. Yep, Zemir White. Romeo Dobbs. Leak Willis. No, it is. It's licorice. Desmond Ritter. We've got Garrett Wilson. Nice. There you go. Jets 40 out of 50. Who's got New York? Nice one there. That is Cameron K. And then we got Anthony Barr to 50. Cherry licorice. There it is. Isaiah Laitley. Kenneth Walker. Matt Corral. Wandaille Robinson. Rashad White. Bailey Zappy. There you go. Patriots. Nice one there. That is, uh, Martin C. Picking up a Mac and a Zappy. Congrats, man. Charlie Kohler. It's going to be your, uh, Greg on the Ravens and Greg. Charles Cross. Chris Olava. Kenny Pickett, rookie. Julio Jones. I like those, Nick. Big fan of those.   That's exactly, that's licorice all day. Yeah. That's a big reason why I like Yeager too. Yeah, it's because it's licorice flavor. I like Yeager. Oh, Yeager bombs are the best. Kenny Pickett. Bailey Zappy. Kellen Petre. Chris Olava. And that is a squad. That is 59 out of 100 for the Saints. Haven Busters. I'm down. Take a Yeager bomb with you. Absolutely. Absolutely. I love Red Bull and Yeager, dude. I love Red Bull and Yeager. That's my favorite drink. I say a likely, there you go, Greg with the Ravens, rookie, tight end auto and Nick Bonito. I'll let, and pretty much anything with Red Bull in it. Like I would, I would drink like, um, Jameson with Red Bull. Obviously, Valkyrie Red Bulls are awesome. Those are fun. Did I like Picklebacks? I don't know why I would drink it so much. Not Patrick Queen this time. There you go. Congrats again, Greg. Picking up another Raven auto. I like that one. Kenyon Drake.  I love Red Bull and Yeager. That's true. That is kind of a hangover. Hangover drink, Red Bull and Yeager. You drink too much of it. Derek Deese Jr. Here, Wilson Rookie. Kyle Hamilton Rookie. That is Derek Henry on the blue. That is 50 out of 100. Sixes turn. Yeah. Sixes needs to get the Ravens so you can get all the Ravens for it. That'd be awesome. I know Six is all in, all in on that. Jabbo Peer Strong, Hot Rookies Cave on Sibido, and Shadevian Clowney on the, uh, Greg. All right, we're done with box five. I've got one box to go here, guys. What? I don't want you to hate me. I mean, that could be part of the reason six. No, okay. Now, if I, realistically, I want you to get the Steelers, obviously. Love if you got the Steelers. Top nine. Oh man. There's a Hutchinson Rookie. Marquis Brown and Greg DJ Moore, Panthers. DJ Moore gonna get traded, question mark. There is Azucanma. Hot Rookies, can you pick it? Michael Vick. Dude, that's sick. There you go, Falcons. He's got Atlanta, Paul B. And Orange, Austin Hooper, 7 out of 10. Covered Match Browns. I mean, the Texans and the Lions aren't bad though. Like Texans, you've got a couple of guys. Lions, you've got a couple of guys. Those aren't terrible teams. I know it's a matter if you have to hit, but again, those are like hopeful teams, you know. Got Vilish Jones Jr. That is Rookie Otto for the Bears. And Eric Dickerson. Dude, Davian Pierce is like top five in the NFL in Russian yards. He's a good Texan. Then you've got Stingley and you've got John Meshie. And then the Lions, you have Hutchinson and Jameson Williams though. They're good. Those are good teams. But no, the Browns and the Cardinals aren't great. I'll give you that. But the other two are Channing Tindall, Traylon Burks. There's a great Hassan Haskins, Titans. We need to get you like the Jets or somebody. Jalen Warren, Austin and Pickins. Well, I mean, yeah, when you're comparing it to the, like the Steelers are the best team probably to get. The Steelers and the Titans are the best teams. And the Jets are up there too. There's a Pickett Rookie speaking of, Bailey Zappy Rookie. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to compare those to Miles Garrett. It's hard to compare the Steelers to anybody else outside of like Tennessee and New York. And then I guess Atlanta I put up there in the top, top tier too. You got like three guys you're looking for. There is the Bombastic Price. Fry Fogel, Chanel, Jackson Hill, Breakthrough T-Log, Garrett Wilson Rookie. And Matt Corral, that is 80 out of 100 hot rookies for the Panthers. That is Meshie Sanders. No, they're not for real. Kenneth Walker. I will go like, I will defend heavily. The Giants are not a real contender. Jared Goff, they're not a real contender. I'm sorry. And they're, they're doing the wrong thing right now as well. Karen Williams, Malik Willis Rookie. Here comes all the Angry Giants fans are coming out now. Hutchinson, Eric Stokes on the second year. That is 18 out of 20 red for the Packers. And Gray Jalen Wattemeyer. Thank you. Cialucis knows we're talking about them. No, they're not for real. Come on.  I'm like, and Daniel Jones is like a bottom five quarterback in the NFL. We're being, if we're being 100% honest with ourselves here. No, he's terrible. Like, eventually you're going to figure out the run game. Like, Saquan's not going to stay as good as you've been doing the entire year. Nice. There you go, Jets. 19 out of 100, Garrett Wilson. And last pack of the Breakthrough. Good luck, everybody. Good luck. Oh, man. And do a quick recap after as well. There's Stingley. That's our first rookie. Abrams Smith.  Joshan Corbin. It's going to be your last rookie auto for the Giants. Can't call him Danny Dimes. And Charlie Kohler, 20 out of 35. He has to throw Dimes in order to be called Danny Charles. And he does not. No, he does not. I'm going to do a random for Wildcard and 400 points. Let me get a list of our teams in here really quick. One sec, guys. We'll do the recap right after. Take you over here. I'm going to do a random for the points. Wildcard and 400. Going to roll the dice. 11 times. The team on top will get Wildcard. And the second team will get 400. So one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, and 11. The Texans will get Wildcard. And the Chargers will get 400. Texans and Chargers. Let's do a quick recap here, guys. Got Joshan Corbin, Giants. Eric Stokes, Packers. Veilish Jones, Bears. Michael Vic Falcons. Patrick Queen, Ravens. Isaiah Lively, Ravens. Bailey Zappie for the Patriots. Garrett Wilson, Jets. Tua Tagovailoa, Dolphins. Devante Price, Colts. Austin Hooper, Browns. Mack Jones, Patriots. Hunter Renfrow for the Raiders. Greg Rousseau-Bills. Zeizo Jalauri Giants. JK Dobbins-Ravens. Jaylin Wademire-Bills. Kenneth Walker-Seahawks. Jerry Judy Broncos. Roger McCreary-Titans. And Caleb Elemy-Seahawks. That will do it for the break, guys. Thanks again for the fail. Next up, our Elements Mixer.


Welcome back to Tennis Talk my name's Cam Williams and Serena Williams has come out and hinted that she is not done yet And she might be coming out of retirement to play some tennis She actually spoken a couple of times about possibly hinting at a return to tennis in the future Let's go have a read of what she said recently about her retirement from tennis So on the tonight show a few weeks ago. She said Tom Brady started an amazing trend That's what I want to say and of course Tom Brady retired and then came out of retirement So that's what she's hinting at at least what people are thinking that she's hinting at And then in an interview with the San Francisco standard She came out and said I am not retired the chances of me returning a very high You can come to my house and see that I have a court. So you have it That's what Serena has hinted in recent weeks that maybe she's not done yet She never used the word retirement when she did say that she was finishing tennis She says she was evolving from tennis Whatever that means it doesn't mean that she's not playing tennis in the future and she's hinting at a return I mean, what do you think about this? Do you think someone who has a big retirement party Like she kind of did at the US Open I mean everyone was assuming that she was retiring So maybe that's not on not her fault It's everyone else's fault for thinking that she was never gonna come back But let me know down the comments below. Do you want to see Serena back Or do you think that she did everything in tennis and she doesn't have anything to prove Coming back doesn't make sense, you know moving on from tennis is fine I want to see Serena back Of course, I feel like we only got like a couple of matches to finish off her career And I feel like a whole year would have been great But let me know down the comments below. Should Serena come back out of retirement and play?


Hi everybody, welcome to Kubernetes on the edge day in Detroit. I'm I'm Steve Wong with VMware I along with Tina Zoll right here in the front row were members of the program committee for the event and I also want to thank Mars over there in the back in the white sweatshirt who helped on the program committee as well the official theme for today's event That you saw when you registered if you at least clicked on that page was that edge computing will be four times larger than cloud And will generate 75% of data worldwide by 2025 I'm not saying that edge four times larger than public cloud with edge generating 75% of data is Trivial or wrong. I'm just going to head in a different direction as we open this because Every conference I go to has those hockey stick growth things and at least for me they got old so I want to point out that We're in an unusual situation lately where data collected by the Federal Reserve Documented a huge drop in labor force participation With the arrival of COVID the reasons are likely multiple and complex but applications delivered to edge Already alleviate tedious work that people don't find satisfying like having a I watch video video streams to classify objects and detect events and Another common application out at edge is taking orders by kiosks, which can eliminate really mundane jobs And it's a situation that many of us Might be observing or dealing with in the past few years This is about a new opportunity You know we've historically seen things like Hadoop in the early 2000s that were described as bringing the compute to the data and certainly there is plenty of data at edge But this is also about bringing applications out closer to the people and the objects that they interact with There are opportunities related to new types of edge devices and workloads that improve our environment and The bigger payoff relate to just doing existing stuff in a better way Suppose we could improve the efficiency of manufacturing or transportation by just 2% These kinds of advances save resources and improve quality of life and environment And when that happens we all benefit from a higher standard of living and a higher quality of life When web browser experience bogged down at scale in the 90s We learned how to do things like use JavaScript in browsers and caching and CDNs Maybe the time has come to to more generically deal with delivering reliable and performant applications Out closer to the users and to do this in a way that scales and is more manageable This is a field that some are describing as edge native applications and We've got people talking about that today I want to point out that web assembly was a technology that was originally viewed as another Solution that could run in the browser just like the JavaScript. In fact, it's built on JavaScript But what if we also look at it as a tech for running massive numbers of applications at edge possibly in devices or near devices? We have a talk about web assembly based AI at edge this morning. I Came across this recently if you can process data intensive workloads such as image recognition in a public cloud the downside could go beyond just the latency of getting it up to that cloud and bring about wasteful energy consumption as This data gets transferred point-to-point, you know running 4k 30 frame per second video up to public clouds May be wrong on many levels We'll have a talk this afternoon that talks about collecting metrics on container level energy consumption So that you can intelligently optimize workload placement The elephant in the room relates to the original design of Kubernetes it was originally designed for large data centers achieving efficiency and availability by running workloads on centrally pooled hosts with very good network interconnects and lots of interchangeable compute nodes Edge is actually decentralized often with IO and location constraints causing one-to-one Relations on workload placement. We have a talk on project flotta, which deals with Kubernetes and Edge the unofficial theme of this is Community And we want to recognize the event organizers and speakers as this event Proceeds so we'll be introducing the speakers but I do want to recognize the conference staff the AV staff in the back of the room and Please join me in getting in the habit of being polite to the to the staff that helps bring about events like this Finally, this event is subsidized by the event sponsors. Yes, you paid for a registration But these sponsors help cover the budget, so I want to quickly recognize them first of all thanks to the Diamond sponsors you see here red hats spectro cloud VMware Edge and they all have booths outside With some swag. So please visit them. We've also got gold sponsors arm and rancher by Sousa and then finally rancher by Sousa doubled up and is sponsoring the video recordings As I said the unofficial theme of this conference is community So the way to get the most out of this event is to go beyond just passively Listening to the speakers today Please make an effort to meet the people and hold discussions during the breaks and meals We'll have a break at 10 lunch at noon another break in the afternoon and Often the hallway track is the best part of these conferences So I'd encourage you to make sure you introduce yourself to at least one other person while we're while you're here and We do have the reception out on the terrace At the end of this event. So with that said I'm going to bring on one of those diamond sponsors So next up is going to be Jeremy with spectro cloud


My hands are tied a lot because of the Kentucky Laws. They're not the best laws in the world for animals at all. It's not our fault. It's really not the county attorney or commonwealth or whatever's fault. It's the laws that's passed throughout the state. I mean, we can only do so much. The county attorney can only do so much. The commonwealth can only do so much. I mean, there's only one felony charge, realistically, for animals. And that pertains to dogfighting.