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You do this by clicking the up arrow next to the mute button, clicking leave computer audio and then dialing back into the meeting. Thank you. Thank you, Simon. First up on the agenda is the public forum. This is an opportunity for anybody to address the DRP on topics not part of tonight's agenda. Are you interested in speaking? It is. Okay. So is there anybody present in the room? I don't think so. I would like to address in the public forum. If you would like to address the board of the public forum and you're participating in the meeting by Zoom, please raise your virtual hand. So we have no raised hands. We also have no chat requests to speak. Okay. We'll transition to agenda item number two, which is the public hearing. Tonight we've got two items on the agenda. DP18-06.3, which is Vermont Hotel Group LLC. Requests a discretionary permit to revise the building facades, color materials, and site plan of the four-story 92 room hotel at 34-82 Blair Park. And then we have HP22-06, which is a certificate of appropriateness for an after-the-fact replacement of a slate roof with asphalt shingles at 8031 Williston Road. So first up is DP18-06.3, Vermont Hotel Group. Is the applicant present? Yep. If you would state your name and address for the record, please. Dave, are you the applicant or...? Dave Zhang, DT Hotel Group. I'm also here on behalf of the applicant. Abby Derry, Trudell Consulting Engineers. Blair Park Road, Williston. Thank you. I am as well. Mark Dowling, G4 Design Studios. 277 College Street, Burlington, Vermont. Okay. Thank you. Mr. Riley, you planned to recuse yourself? I recused myself on the first hearing. I'm going to recuse myself on the third hearing. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Staff goes next. Is this you, Emily? It is. Okay. So this is a request for a discretionary permit to modify the exterior material selection and relocate the HVAC equipment with screening at 36 Blair Park Road. This building is currently under construction to become a 91-room hotel. The property is shared with a multi-tenant commercial building. Within that building is the U.S. Post Office, UPS, and a few other businesses. The property is about three and a half acres located in the Business Park Zoning District. They are not proposing a change of use here, and they have access onto Blair Park Road, which is a town road. This application was subject to design review. Tonight, we're recommending that the DRB take testimony and close, deliberate, and make a decision with findings, conclusions, and conditions as drafted. The DRB may choose to modify the HAC recommendation, which is the focus of tonight's review. This property, this is the first time the DRB is reviewing this specific request. However, the permit review began with PREAP in 2017, discretionary permits and amendments in 2019, and an amendment to the master sign plan last year. The Historic and Architectural Advisory Committee, the HAC, reviewed this on August 2nd. Public Works also commented that as-built plans must be provided, the fire department did not have any comments in their memo. No comment letters from the public were received at the time of mail-out or by the tonight's meeting. So this is the Business Park Zoning District, where a hotel isn't allowed use. They're not making any changes to the dimensional standards in terms of building footprint, building height, parking area, sidewalks, et cetera. There's no outdoor storage or sales proposed nor allowed in this district. And in terms of the development pattern standards of this zoning district, they're not making any significant modifications. In terms of vested rights, so, we're what we like to call the Board Text Zone right now, where form-based code is applicable, as is the current bylaw, because the select board has warned public hearing on the form-based code. However, this application is below the threshold of form-based code. We reviewed Section 8 of the form-based code for the Administration of Nonconformities. The form-based code is focused on additions to a structure. So in this case, they're not making an addition, they're just changing the materials on an existing facade and relocating a very minor utility enclosure. Because of this, it's below the threshold of form-based code, and the DRB's review tonight should focus solely on the existing bylaws. Another thing I didn't include the staff report that I probably should have is the scope of review. So when the DRB is reviewing an amendment, the scope is limited to what is changing and what is being requested. Compatibility, potential nuisances, and hazards. So this section of the bylaw talks about the screening of mechanical equipment. That ground-mounted equipment be screened by offense, wall, or landscaping. They're proposing two HVAC pads. One is of a particular note, which is screen-shotted here, on the southeastern corner of the building. So Williston Road and the bike path would run along this side of the building. And they are providing a six-foot high cedar board fence. And the existing landscaping plan shows that this enclosure would be screened by the fence and softened by the landscaping. The HAC felt that this complied as proposed. Design review. So like many other aspects of our lives, it's being affected by supply chain issues. The previously approved material English Cherry cement board is no longer available. So they went back to the franchise for other approved materials and they've provided a couple of options for primarily the east elevation. This top image shows what was originally approved, that more burnt orange color is the English cherry. That's no longer available. The applicant prefers option one, which is to carry the tan material all the way across levels two and three. However, the HAC preferred option two, which carries the beige down from the gable across levels two through four. And the stone veneer would remain the same along the first level. On the west elevation, some changes are being proposed for the English cherry. The HAC didn't prefer this option that was being made. They felt that the balance of carrying up the stone and the dark brown, it didn't match with the east elevation. There's a material change along the bottom of the windows where elsewhere on the building, the material changes with the floors and not along a windows edge. And this uneven balance where the brown element is wider on the left side and narrower on the right side. So the HAC made a recommendation to provide a more cohesive design between the east and west elevations. For example, do not have a material change around the third floor windows. Minimize the dark brown paneling for the cream colored paneling and the vertical alignment of stone and dark brown should be even on both sides. They cited WDB 2235. Variations should not simply be for variety's sake. Can I interject at this point? So should the DRB adopt the HAC recommendation for that elevation? And we were to close this hearing and hypothetically approve with conditions. Would it then be the responsibility of the planning staff to judge the updated elevations to be in compliance with the HAC recommendation? Yes. It would be a good opportunity for the DRB to consider retaining final plan review or providing some feedback to the applicant and requesting a revised elevation. This hearing was last week so there wasn't enough time to or the HAC review was last week so there wasn't enough time for them to respond to these recommendations. And I would also advise that the applicant discuss this with the DRB before they come up with a new elevation. Okay, thank you. Yep. The last change is to the stone foundation along the base of all sides of the building.  They're proposing to carry the stone veneer all the way down to the ground and the HAC felt that this was acceptable. I think that covers it for the HAC recommendations which are provided as condition of approval number three A through C. Thank you. Okay, condition of approval number three B indicates east elevation option number one is preferred. Is that a typo? That is a glaring typo. That should say option number two. Bravo, Pete. Want to know for the record that the chair actually read the staff report? Okay, I thought that was the case. Okay, this board member gives the chair full credit. Okay, this is an opportunity for the applicant to provide feedback on planning staff's report and any information that you think is applicable to for the DRB to consider. Hi everyone, this is... Oh, go ahead Abby. I was waiting for you to go Dave. I am just saying that my site change is minimal. So if we wanted to just get, you know, see what the board thought about the HVAC location and the fence screening and whether that was appropriate. I think it shows up nicely in the rendering the cedar fence blends with the siding and the landscape softens it. And I don't really have anything to add on the application materials that were already submitted. But if there are any questions on the HVAC location, I'm happy to answer them. Okay, why don't we have a site plan discussion at this point then? And DRB members, any input on the proposed site plan amendments? Only, Abby, could you give us a little clarity on kind of exactly what's changing? I mean, I don't write off the opposition to what you're proposing. I'm just not sure I understand what the change is. Yeah, we had originally proposed all of the HVAC to be located in the northwest corner of the building near the garage entry. And for reasons explained to me by Dave Offline, the architecture, mechanically, it wouldn't suit the project for it only to be in the northeast corner between the driveway and the eastern property line. Kind of where that, there's a concrete pad there right now. Yes, thank you, right where the cursor is. So they had to split it into two locations and where it fit best to have the most efficient runs was the southeast corner of the building on a small concrete pad up in the corner by Williston Road and another spot on the western facade north of the Port Goucher where it's being circling green. So we just had to split those locations up and are proposing new pad locations with cedar board on board fencing to screen. Okay, and is there any changing to the landscaping? No, no, not really. We were able to work that into the existing landscaping. Okay, great. All right, thank you. All right, any other board questions that pertain to the site? The exact location of that pad, is that pad in front of the window, this window, or is it literally just under, almost under the porch? Let's see, does it show up? That's probably a question for G4 perhaps. C201 shows where this pad is, this new pad that's literally almost by the main entrance. Correct? It's tucked to the left. If I'm walking in the main entrance, it's to my left as I'm walking in, correct? Look at the screen right now. What is he showing? Correct. That's what I thought. The brick paver piece is the entryway and as you're walking in towards the building, it would be on your left. Correct. So Paul, was your question whether that pad was going to extend to underneath where the window is? Yeah, was it going to basically block? I don't think it's going to block the window.  The window doesn't start six foot up. It's basically going to be looking, that's how I was asking, you know, exactly. That's a good question. So if the applicant would answer that please. Yeah, go ahead, Dave. Yeah, so the window is actually pretty, far up there, high up there. I believe the top of that window is almost, Mark, I want to say it's like eight feet or something like that. Yeah, I'm trying to open the set now to get the number. Perfect. But yes, it would cover, you know, the bottom portion of the window with the fence. So the person looking out of that room would see the pleasure of seeing the backside, the inside of the fenced area, and the air conditioning units, right? It's not a hotel room. It's an office space, right? Yes, an office space. That's an office space. Okay. That's all I need to know. Never mind. Okay. There's a good question about the relative to the site plan by the DRB members. I'm kind of fascinated that they signed off on this and suddenly the material that they approved in April isn't available now. I'm just, it seems funny. Anyhow, that's in the story. That was April of previous year. 2019. So no, it wasn't ordered then at that point. Okay. No. Which will lock the company into making it. There are a lot of variables. Yeah. That's not really. It's not surprising to me. That's actually not really all that germane at this point. But. Okay. So the applicant, please. Abby Abby address site issues. If you would supplement staffs. Staffs report about the project in general, please. Well, Dave might be able to answer the front was. The franchise had a lot of influence on the, I don't know whatsoever. It was a little bit of a facade look. When the materials changed? So, David, I can comment. Yeah, I can comment on this mark. This is Dave. Vermont hotel group speaking. So. The English cherry was a product that was no longer available. So. Because this is a franchise, Wyndham hotel. and asked for some feedback on what to do to replace the material. And they're using a lot of this large format tile that we're seeing, the brown one. And they recommended to put that on this hotel as well. The left justification of the unevenness on the left and right side, that's actually on purpose. By them, I guess apparently in their brand, they purposely do a left justification. It wasn't just kind of random, but it's something that they do on their hotels across the board if it's approved locally to have more tile on the left than the right. And the reason why on the fourth floor, it wasn't brought down to the fourth and third floor levels is because the tile actually sticks out a fair amount and it wouldn't look that great around the P-TAC area. So that was the reason for that. OK, any other comments? I mean, that tile is a much nicer product than the previous product, I can tell you that. It's a very hardy, heavy-duty ceramic tile that's going on there. So it's much nicer material than the cement board. OK, DRV members, questions about the exterior of the proposed facade changes for the exterior elevations? John? I was going to let these guys go first. Yeah, I'm curious, does the applicant have any strong opinions on the HAC feedback on the east elevation? They wanted to continue that material all the way down. Yeah, we're in agreement with the HAC recommendation to carry the cement floor all the way down from the fourth floor. Do you have an actual option to that? Or is it just neutral on it? Oh, we presented both options as being ones that we like and based on the HAC feedback and also the town's feedback to break up the material so it doesn't look like a long continuous of the same material is a good call. I prefer to bring it down. OK. OK, DRV members, let's talk about the west elevation. That's unless you have something about the east elevation. Well, it's kind of a similar question to what I have on the west to start with, which is, I mean, this is an interesting theoretical issue. I guess if I had found out that the one color wasn't available, I guess my first reaction would have been to, given what was approved already by the DRV, I would have looked at just change to a different color and keep the exact same elevation. And I'm wondering why you didn't do that. It was a different material, not just color. Like that cherry board was not the same material as the existing, is that right, Dave? There's also material from what I remember. I think that English cherry was a similar cement board product. Oh, that's right. I could be wrong. But the main reason for instead of just changing, I mean, I think Mark, to correct me if I'm wrong, I think at one point we did decide go with an autumn red. That wasn't anywhere close to what it was before. And it brought a lot of really red to the picture. And we already have red trims and red window trims. And it wasn't a great look. And really honestly, the main feedback to change it to the tile was more from franchise. The Wyndham Hotel and Resort was really pushing it. And with these change, they like to have similarities among their hotels. And that's why the large format tile was brought into the picture. Right, again, I'm not even at this point commenting on the change in material or the change in the elevations. I'm just thinking that from a simplicity's sake, a simple swap of one color for another. And we're talking about this for a couple of minutes because this board typically doesn't get too deeply involved with the color changes. But since you're changing kind of where you have different colors, it becomes a more complex conversation. You know, again, I'm looking at these three options for the East elevation, the original and the next two. And they're all very different looks. One has a very continuous horizontal band, which I think the hack didn't really appreciate, which I would agree with them on that. But the other one is you've totally eliminated the color complexity, or you've reduced the complexity of the elevation here by just kind of washing that the color that was above straight down the facade. And this is kind of the rear. I think it's hidden by another building on the adjacent side a little bit. It's probably not a very visible spot. It's just a little odd that you're changing the entire. It's gonna be very visible. Is it? The building next door, actually to the east of the building is. Oh yeah, look at that. I'm absolutely wrong. It's set back pretty significantly. And so do you have the image that we're looking at of the original? No, we don't have the original. Do they have the original renderings from way back when? It's in the packet. Well, the original rendering is buried somewhere. Again, that's a very large facade. And I think there was some merit to the change of color that was there before rather than kind of bleeding one or the other of the adjacent colors down into the spot because you couldn't get that. That's my opinion. I mean, there's a trade-off a little bit. I understand what you're saying, but when you bring the color down, then you're sort of reinforcing a geometry of the gable then. So there's a little bit of a trade-off. So now you can see like three pieces with a gable and the two edges. And so it has its own, it reads its own way that way. I think, you know, I understand what you're saying. And it's like now it's geometry is more emphasized in color when you have the full gable land in there. So now I'll move this over to the west elevation. Well, before you do that, I just want to sensitize the DRB that an option that presents itself here is that we maintain the approved east elevation and they simply paint the cement board, the color that was originally approved. What's the long-term viability of that versus? Versus what? Versus, you know, where the colors manufactured into it. Like maintenance? Because I don't want to approve something that's going to end up starting to peel, you know, five years down the road or whatever. And then they got to go out and scrape it and paint it again. I think that would be good. I'm not saying that what I'm proposing doesn't have some maintenance consequence, but I'm throwing it out there for people to think about. Okay, that's all I'm doing. Would you mind going around and giving that to Emily, please? Right, and I think what we were seeing here on the screen is that the 3D image is actually much more compelling than the elevations we're looking at, especially when we're looking at the east or the west elevation. Yeah, I don't know that we want to introduce yet another color into the schemes, even if it's going back to the original. Then, you know, we're just going to have, I think we have a pretty good variety now. I don't know that we want to. Is the peak of the southern elevation the same tile that's proposed on the east and west? The tiles on the bump out in the center, right, Dave? Yeah, it's the same tile, but it's a slightly different color. Okay. Well, these are very different colors here than what I'm seeing on the elevations, but there's none of the light color at the gable. And was that on the southern elevation, was that a hack recommendation, or was that the applicant's choice to change that color also and material there? It is the applicant's choice, and that was originally the English cherry as well, right, Mark? Right, and that's now the tile, the large format tile. So there are two new materials, there are two new colors, but one material that replaced the cherry, is that right? Yes. When the design was approved in April of 2021, was the hotel a Wyndham franchise at that point in time? 2019, was that 20? Yeah, it was 2019. Yes. Then wait, 2019 or 2021, sorry. Well, I'm looking at the packet and it shows a west elevation design as approved April 2021, and that's why I asked that question. Oh, that might be another typo that should say April 2019. I think April 2021, yeah, April 2021 was a master sign plan amendment. And May 2019 was 1806.1, amend facade color materials roofline. Okay. So that's another typo. So let me rephrase my question then. Was this a Wyndham franchise as of April 2019? I have to go back and check. I don't remember offhand if that was a Wyndham hotel or not. I seem to be a quality in at one point and I don't know if a quality in is part of the Wyndham family. I don't know my hotel franchise is well enough to know that. So this is the rendering that was submitted under DP 1806.1, which was that spring 2019 application and it's showing it as Hawthorne. And I believe Hawthorne in Lockheed to our... Yes. Then that answer would be yes. Oh, thank you Emily. Okay, great. Thank you Emily. Okay. And then earlier what I was screen sharing, I just Googled Hawthorne or Wyndham hotels and this is that left justified example of the dual brand, Hawthorne Laquita. Okay. Right, thank you. Correct. Thank you. Okay, perfect. Okay. So DRM members, I would like thoughts and comments on the proposed change to the West elevation. I'm fine with the West elevation as option two on the West elevation because it does break up the wall. Agreed on that. As act recommended. Okay. Option two. Do you mean East elevation? No. The one that doesn't have the main entrance? No, I'm talking about West. I'm sorry, yeah, I was talking East. Oh, you were talking East. I am. Okay, I had transitioned to West. I'm sorry. That's okay. So thoughts on the proposed West elevation? I have no problems with it. My only concern is that we're introducing more than one new color and I think it would be beneficial to have just, we're gonna replace one color, keep it all the same. Could you clarify what you mean by that? So on the South elevation, unless I misunderstood, there is a new material there as well that's similar to but a slightly different color and I can't appreciate the difference in these photos unless I misunderstood. I think that was the same that they're using on the West. It is a different color on the South compared to the West. So on the South is the large format tile, is that correct? Correct, the South is the large format tile and the West is also the large format tile. They are the same tile but different color. Same tile, same material, different color. I would prefer the same color. In these pictures, they look similar, but I don't know, I guess what's lost on me is what the benefit of the different colors is there. It seems like it's getting a little busy here. Thank you, that's gonna help a bunch. So because the packet that we have is such small font, would, could you identify, Emily, what the tile is on this graphic that's displayed on the screen right now? Yeah, and Abby or Dave, feel free to correct me. So the large format tile on the South elevation is here and that's a lighter brown color and then on this, on the West elevation. It's the vertical band. It's the vertical band, then it runs along the windows. Okay. Vertical band behind the port coast share. And up. And up. And those are slightly different colors, same type of material but different colors. Correct. Okay. I guess so. And Nate, what you're suggesting is maybe to make those the same color? Just. I think I can see what they were trying to achieve here or maybe look that South elevation more distinct as a, probably not really the main entrance, but yeah, that is what I was suggesting. And if the applicant can maybe explain why they did that. Sure. Does the applicant have an explanation for the two different colors? Yes. So my understanding where Wyndham was going with two different material is the darker brown is what they typically do around the main entrance to the hotel and the other color that is the slightly lighter brown is what they put on typically the other side. On one side of the hotel is not the main entrance. It was kind of a feedback from the hotel franchise for these two different pile colors. All right, so it's a brand standard thing. Yeah, it's one of their brand. Yeah, okay. And did the fourth floor exterior wall color also change from the original proposal on the Southern Elevation and why we do that? It's different from the picture that was passed around. No, it did not. Okay. Yeah, the pictures are just not the same colors. You get to realize these are the two you're comparing here and these are both South, these are both the North. Yeah, I'm not sure where those, well, I'm not sure which generation those are older, I think, because they don't match what we've got in the back of here at all. That was either the original DP or 1806.1, the amendment in April 2019. I'm not sure if this rendering matches that one. So was that other color approved at one point? That's in this versus this? Yeah, pass those back. So that application 1806 final plan is not filed April 10th, 2018. Was the DRB hearing? It says there's a continuum to it. So this, I think is the same image, that the color in this one is just a richer print, I believe, but looking at where the cars are and the rendering, I think it's the same one. And this was that original DP hearing, they submitted the DRB continued so they could revise things. And then that second hearing happened in April of, or whatever I said earlier. I think there are some significant differences between those photos and what we're being shown here is being approved in April of 2021. Yeah, these photos I would probably ignore because they got these approved in April, 2018. And then they came back, they didn't file final plans on this one. Then they came back a year later in May, 2019 with the revisions. And that's the comparing in your staff report. And that's what we want to be comparing to. Yeah, thank you. I think the 3D image that Emily's been putting on the screen is very helpful on the entrance elevation. And I would agree that the fact that that's the main entrance does make a difference. And I like the improvements that this is over what was originally done with the cherry color. And the asymmetry does not, it doesn't bother me any of that.  So I think there's already some acceptable imbalance there. This is a pretty big building. And I think it can handle these different elements that are on there. And I would, I'm certainly not an architect, but I would make the case that because of the size and scale of the building, breaking it up like this is the proper thing to do. Right, yeah, you don't want your eye to go that whole way. Right, right, exactly. I mean, I'll also mention that, you know, if you want three opinions asked, two architects, so. No, I get it, but I think that's, I think there's consensus in this group on that. So what I'd like to do is sir, give you an opportunity. Are you interested in addressing the board? Yeah. Okay, so if you would come up to the table with the placard that says public. I think applicants fine, because I don't know if there's a chair on that side. Okay, okay, you can sit right there where the applicant sign placard is. If you would state your name and address for the record, please and then pose your comments or question. Okay, my name is Brian Forrest. I live at 114 Wilson Woods Road. I've been a president of Wilson for 10 years. I'm the former energy coordinator and a present member of the HAC. I reviewed this project with the last meeting and I was kind of dismayed at the direction this building was taken. And in order to understand what was going on in the architect's mind, I went to the G4 website and came up with these photographs here, what they originally intended. And this building is a large building, but it has no inherent massing that would logically break it down into smaller components. So your elect was kind of putting wallpaper on a building trying to make it into different parts. And it's really not, it doesn't really work very well. So the architects had grappled with that. And I think they came up, they acknowledged that it's a big building, but they gave us the nuance and some subtlety by changing color slightly, changing material slightly, and putting accents, couple of accents here, accent at the entry, which the color combination I think is very rich. And I think that I would respect the architect's original intent. And I think if you did, you'd have a finer building of what we're actually devolved into here today. That's my comments, thank you. Okay, thank you. Okay, DRB members, any additional comments or last questions or concerns? One, so again, this where I was headed at the beginning part is that the relationship between the West and the East solidations, initially, if you look at the two images that we have for those from the, what I think is now we're saying design is approved May of 2019. There were some similarities there. They were actually playing off of each other and being similar with that, whether you like it or not, the cherry colored cement board that was on there was similar on both facades. But with the changes we're making now, they're not really relating to each other at all. Other than they're both perhaps responding more strongly to the gable that's on that facade. But again, I'm just, would be interested in knowing why you seem intent on not having those two elevations relate to each other at this point. There was no intent there, not having it relate. I just was responding to the franchise lots at this point. I find having that very large area on the East elevation to be a little bland and kind of a step backwards in terms of the amount of detail and the complexity and color selections on the building kind of washes it out significantly and changes the level of detail. That's just, that's my opinion. Okay, applicant final comments or questions? Oh, okay. Oh. Members of the public, any final thoughts, comments, questions? Oh, no raised hands or requests to speak. Paul. Question to the hack. No, he doesn't represent the hack. Oh. He's a member of the hack. Oh, he's a member of the hack. Okay. He's not representing the hack. Oh, so out of curiosity, did the hack make any recommendation what to do with that big area like changing materials? Was that you at that meeting? Yes, I was. So that price should be addressed, Emily. Oh. Are we talking about the West elevation, the main entrance side? No, the East elevation, the bland elevation. Back like the option too. Did the hack come up with, did they make any major recommendation to say, this should be like stone tile all the way, stones aside all the way up to really break up the exterior and make it distinctive. Did they make any recommendation like that? No, they just said option two was preferred. And there wasn't as detailed as discussion, excuse me, about a material going away and reducing the amount of variety. So in other words, they didn't propose a third option. Correct. And they were trying to be very careful on their West elevation recommendation to not design the applicants project, but provide them some guidance. Okay, that's on you. Okay. Any other questions? Paul, you good? I'm good. Okay. Okay, good. Okay. Last call, anybody? Public, applicant, DRB members? Only that I do like the change of the stone base. They don't have only a single mature. Yeah, I do too. So anyway, I just, whatever I know that I don't make just negative comments. Okay, great. Okay. Sorry, Pete could I ask one question? Absolutely. Are there any other changes that you would like to make to this elevation that we're talking about here that were you just going with what the hack recommended or are there other things you guys would like to do to add to it? Because it does look, I guess, washed out to me as well on the East elevation. On the East, no. I don't really have any. At that point, I was just kind of going along with what Franchise was hoping to accomplish and just waiting for feedback to see what kind of response we get. Okay, thanks. Very good. So we're going to close DP 18-06.3 at 754. Thank you all for coming. Thank you. Okay. Mr. Riley, you are welcome back. Okay, next up is HP 22-06, 8031 Wilson Road. Are you representing the applicant? Please come forward to the table and introduce yourself, state your name and address for the record place. My name is Jack Lau and I work for Lake Point Property Management, 65 Main Street, Burlington. Okay, who's got this first out? That's me. Okay. So this is a request for a certificate of appropriateness to resolve the zoning violation for replacing the slate roof with asphalt shingles without the benefit of a permit. This property known as the Worthheim House is located in the National Register Historic District of the Village Zoning District where a certificate of appropriateness is required for exterior modifications and or material changes. We do note that the Historic Sites and Structures Survey from 1978, as well as another undated survey, both list asphalt shingles as the roof covering. However, a 1999 survey lists slate in aerial and street view imagery that's included in your packet does depict a distinct change in materials from 2015 and 2018 and the 2021 photography from Google. The bylaw is silent on cost and financial hardship of materials and the hack of DRB should make a decision based on the guidelines of Appendix H. So the zoning violation was issued on June 29th within a day by receiving the application. Rich McClain, the managing partner for a late point property management responded. And then on July 6th, the certificate of appropriateness application was submitted. Hack review took place on August 6th where the applicant Jack and another representative were present. At that hack meeting, some new information came to light that the northeast gable and the east gable of the building were asphalt shingles before the replacement. And the applicant.  John, a gable doesn't have shingles, correct? No, that's correct. Okay. So I. The gable is the pointed flat part of the building. Okay. So I just want to point that out, okay? Because a roof and a gable are different components of a building. So the north side of the gable, the roof panel facing north. This is the photo that was submitted by Jack. So you can't see this side of the roof. But that side was asphalt shingles. And then in this photo here, this part of the roof that is facing east was shingles. And when you zoom in, you can see the porch was slate and some of that difference in the texture. It's hard to see on the big screens. It might be better in the packets. Now, and this is from what time period? Is this currently? The current picture. Do you know when this photo was? This photo was 2019, I believe. Because the porch is currently asphalt, correct? Yes. And Emily, you're saying that that is showing slate? I would need to fact check myself on when that photo is from as well. It's either 2019 or pre-2019. Okay. That picture there, that's slate, right there. That's slate. No doubt about that. So when the zoning violation was issued, we were under the impression that the whole roof, including the porch, was slate. And in the hack review, it came to light that the north and east facing sides were asphalt shingles. And then it was the south and west facing side and the porch were slate. So what the hack did is they considered all the recommendations option one through five that were drafted by staff and they created their own recommendation to store the slate roof on the street facing. It says Gable, it should say roof within one year. And the asphalt shingles are acceptable on the other portions of the roof. And this image highlights in yellow, the south facing roof where they would like to see the slate. The hack discussion kind of forgot about the porch. So staff does note that the DRB could consider that porch roof because it's also very visible from the street. Okay, anything else? I think that's it for me. Great. Okay. Jack, what do you have to supplement staff's report? I think that sums up what we're looking for. And we also agree with the recommendation that hack made. And we'd again, just like to apologize for the issue that we've caused and the mistake that was made with moving forward with replacing a roof without fully pulling all permits that are necessary and finding out that this building is indeed on the historical registry. DRB members, questions? Paul? No, I'm good. John? No, I mean this building is certainly adds to the character of the historic district and I think we need to keep this slate roof as we've been discussing here. Right. It seems like frequently. Yeah, we've had a slate discussion lately. Including the porch, I think the porch is a piece. Porch is very, very visible, I drove by. And it's close. So it's something that you can kind of, we can see from these pictures right away and this one here that it's something you're very close to and so you can really perceive the texture and the heaviness, thickness of that roof material. So. Nate, any questions? All right, nothing to add. Okay, Scott, you good? You're good. Okay, members of the public, any comments or input? There's no raised hands or chats to speak. Okay, Jack, anything further before we close? No, sir. Okay. Okay, we're going to close HP 22-06 at 8.02. Thank you for coming. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, the DRP at 8.02 is going to go into deliberative session. So for our one Zoom attendee, you're welcome to hang out through deliberations and we'll let you back in. We'll also post the decision to the website later this week or you could contact us tomorrow for the decision. Welcome to the town of Willison Development Review Board for Tuesday, August 9th, 2022. The DRP is out of deliberation and it is 8.34. Is there a motion for DP 18-06.3 Vermont Hotel Group LLC? Yes, Simon, I'm going to need some assistance here. Thank you. So as authorized by WDB 6.6.3, I, John Hemmelgarn, moved at the Wilson Development Review Board having reviewed the application submitted in all accompanying materials, including the recommendations of the town staff and the advisory board required to comment on this application by the Wilson Development By-law and having heard and duly considered the testimony presented at the public hearing of August 9th, 2022, except the findings of fact and conclusions of law for DP 18-06.3 and approve this discretionary permit subject to the conditions of approval above. This approval authorizes the applicant to file final plans, obtain approval of these plans from the DRB, and then seek an administrative permit for the proposed development, which must proceed in strict conformance with the plans in which this approval is based. We're going to adjust a couple of conditions, specifically condition number three is going to read, I think in its entirety. Final plans shall address the comments of the Wilson Historic and Architectural Advisory Committee memo dated August 2nd, 2022, as amended by the DRB on August 9th, 2022. A, stone foundations carrying the stone veneer to the ground foundation is acceptable as proposed. B, east elevation, provide a facade treatment on the east side under the cable that is similar to the west entrance facade using the same pallet of materials as on the west elevation. C, west elevation, the proposed changes to the west elevation are acceptable. D, the proposed changes to the south elevation are acceptable. E, the proposed changes to the site plan for HVAC screening are acceptable. I believe that is all the changes we were proposing. Great, thank you, John. Is there a second? I'll second. Dave Turner seconds it and need discussion. Yay or nay? Paul Christensen? Yay. John Hemmelgarn? Yay. Scott Riley recused. Dave Turner? Yay. Nate Andrews? Yay. The chair is a yay. Five in favor, one recusal, motion carries. Is there a motion for HP 22-06, 8031 Williston Road, Allen Brook Partners, LLC? Yes, I, Scott Riley, make a motion to approve the certificate of appropriateness for Allen Brook Properties LLC application of our HP 22-06 for the purpose of correcting the zoning violation for replacing the slate roof with asphalt shingles without the benefit of a permit. We will be adding the following recommendation that the applicant will restore the slate roof on the street facing roof and the porch within one year. Mr. Riley, I would like to make a friendly amendment. Yes. And make that a shall instead of, so the applicant shall replace the roof. I used will, correct me? Yes. What's the difference? It's a legal, legally more powerful. All right, let's amend that Emily from will to shall. So the applicant will restore, excuse me, the applicant shall restore the slate roof on the street facing roof and the porch roof within one year. Great, is there a second? Second. John, Hamilton, second set. Any discussion? I just want to, it looks like Simon already corrected it, but recommendations versus conditions, is that? Yeah, I didn't make that change. Oh, okay. Yeah, you've aligned through recommendation, right? I did, I shook out. Yep, you're on following condition. Okay, any other comments? Okay, Paul, yay or nay? Yay. John, Hamilton. Yay. Scott, Riley. Yay. Dave Turner. Yay. Nate Andrews. Yay. Chair is a yay, six in favor, none opposed, the motion carries. Next up is under communications, staff to provide an update on the village bylaw zoning update. Yep, so included in your packet is a brief memo about the village bylaw zoning update. So back in late June, early July, on behalf of planning commission in the hack, we publicly launched a zoning bylaw update. Light form based code, there's a specific website just for this project, willistonvillagevt.us. You can find the draft zoning document on the website. This is my version with all of my markup and planning commission markup on this document. And this bylaw revision is a long time coming and it's two fold, one to provide clarity on the design review guidelines and the historic preservation standards. So you guys aren't making them on an ad hoc basis under each property that there's more guidance than just quote, respect the original context. Because as we've seen with our most recent slate roof applications, that makes sense in theory, but when you get into the nitty gritty of applying it to siding replacements, window replacements, roofs, it gets challenging. So the goal is to provide more specific guidance on materials and recognizing that even within the historic register district, there are truly historic buildings and there are structures that are modern. And an 1860s house is a lot different than a 1960s house in the types of changes that can be made to it and providing that flexibility for those different types of structures. The other portion of the bylaw revision is to provide some clarity and flexibility for new project design, adaptive reuse of historic buildings. Currently, commercial uses are allowed everywhere in the village, including quiet streets like Tower Lane, Village Grove. This proposal provides some more clarity as to where commercial use is allowed and when it is brought into the village that it's done in a way to reduce conflict vis-a-vis buffering fences. You may recall several years ago when the Lantman House became Rage Line Real Estate. There is some discussion about the DRB about headlight glare and they required a fence strategically placed along the parking lot. I said, hey, that's a great idea. Let's just write that into the standard, the strategic buffering of commercial and multifamily uses from the budding properties. So we're in the public input phase of review to make sure that the draft we've written aligns with the goals of the Village Master Plan. That document was adopted in 2018 and it set out clear guidelines around adopting materials lists for historic structures, adopt material lists for other structures, have a demolition and a demolition by neglect standard, create guidelines and standards for rear lot development, new commercial, new residential, et cetera. Since launching the Planning Commission has given me some feedback on revisions to this document. I'll be the first to admit that I wrote the permit threshold table and it is terrible and I hate it because it is not making things clear but we're working in that direction. And the route is going to a contributing structure versus a non-contributing structure determination. So in the National Register District, everything needs that certificate of appropriateness when you guys with the hack and the dice put on the National Preservation, the National Park Preservation Hat and administer the National Register District. And then everywhere else in the Village, the additional review area is a town designation and in theory, the things outside, like on Maple Road, Tower Lane, Village Grove, Slate Barn Drive, they're in the Village but outside those two review areas. And rather than looking at things geographically, look at them as contributing a property with a contributing structure or a non-contributing structure and then reviewing changes that are made based on that determination. Some instances like the Lampman House or the Slate Barn on Slate Barn Drive, it's probably pretty clear which route the determination of contributing structure status would go. But then there's other properties in the Village where the discussion might be more lively and more information would be needed to make that determination. So rather than, you know, we consider the idea of having a whole list of structures in the Village and if they are or not contributing. And that would pretty much mean that this bylaw revision would be reduced to property owners arguing whether their property should be on a list or not. And the determination process means that it happens on that per-parcel basis when somebody comes to the board where they say, I might wanna demolish this building. Is it contributing and what route will I go? Rather than having it be an implicit decision where someone makes plans with their architect or their engineer to do a renovation or do an addition and find out farther on down the road that the HAC approval or the DRB approval is gonna go in a different direction than the work that they've already made plans for. So I am open to feedback from the DRB if you guys have looked through this document or want to over the coming weeks. The Planning Commission directed me and the consultant on some big revisions like simplifying the permit threshold, simplifying the materials list for contributing versus non-contributing, adding a maximum building footprint allowance as well as a minimum required private open area. So those things are kind of form-based code inspired and where this bylaw proposes to go away with residential density as units per acre and go away with commercial allowances based on square footage. They think that some backstop on maximum footprint size that matches the village scale and requiring private open area would help ensure that the development pattern meets what's here currently in the village. And then several other smaller changes to pictures and intense statement where things are shouts or shoulds either getting rid of them or making them a shell, that type of thing. On slate, this is drafted with probably the strictest interpretation possible, which is where structure was likely to have slate originally and maybe it now has metal or as well shingles requiring it to go back to slate. And the hack is not in favor of that. The Planning Commission is not in favor of that. So that is gonna be something that's walked back whether they allow slate to go away where it exists, that's still up for discussion. A community meeting is scheduled for September 20th and I think that's gonna be the moment where we use some tools like Mentimeter or other live survey tools to gauge people's interests. Where does the community wanna fall on that spectrum from most strict to most lenient? Recognizing that the village isn't Colonial Williamsburg but nor do we want structures to go the way of losing all of their historic value and finding that middle ground. Right. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah, thank you. I mean, I think from a DRV standpoint, since that's correct, the clearer you can make that for us, the better, the clearer. Otherwise, we become the bad guys on the slate issue, Scott and I probably are at your office. And I would just bring up another point. I watched a landlord in downtown Burlington with a historic building fight the city because the city said you had to have a three inch reveal on cladward wood siding and he wanted to use a four inch reveal and they took him to court over it. And to me, that is, and he won by the way. And so to me, that is getting much too controlling on what is going on. And there should be, you know, there should be the ability to maneuver a little bit within, you know, the town is a evolving community. Things change and should be allowed to change, maybe not drastically or dramatically, but it does change over time. So I would hope that gets incorporated into, you know, into your provisions. Yeah, I had a meeting today with a couple who own a historic property in the village that is an 1800s home, but it's outside both of those review areas. And based on the changes that they would like to make to their home, I thought of ways that this bylaw is not fully meeting that intent and revising that to provide that flexibility for incremental change. When I was reviewing that permit history of and historic photos of places in the village, they never wear a static thing. Even, you know, things in the 1800s were very simple and then late 1800s, early 1900s, a lot of embellishments were added to homes, additions, doors and windows moved around. So providing, like you say, that flexibility that there's a little wiggle room to provide modification over time. We don't wanna brick in the front door that faces the street, but there is some room for flexibility for other changes. The current iteration of the hack in DRB is very different than the iterations of the boards in the past. So we have heard feedback from people feeling like they were treated really poorly and very mean in the past. I would say probably more than a decade ago where the boards were very nitpicky on that same level of, oh, three or four inch reveal, how deep should your front porch be that you're adding to your home? And a lot of this has been like kind of, you know, historic advisory therapy for people where like, sorry, you were treated that way in the past and the current DRB and hack interpretation of that standard is a lot different, is a lot more flexible. Let me just chime in for the more for the board's that occasion, when I first got on the board, which is close to 15 years ago, we had a number of items come before the board where people wanted to replace windows. And at the time I got on the board, it was that the bylaw or whoever would manage them, the staff was hard on, if you had a wood window, if you had a wood window or you had to put a wood window back, and it just boggled the mind. If you're gonna paint it red, green, blue, whatever, anyways, then buy a wood window with either fiberglass or metal cladding, it'll last 10 times longer and you don't have to sit out there and scrape it and paint it and rock it and what have you. And you know, we, the board, and I was one of the people thumping my fist on the table saying, guys, this is dumb. This is just, so to me that was an evolutionary change in the way staff looked at things, the board looked at things, and that whole topic really has just gone away. You know, we haven't seen anything like that in ages, but at the time I got on the board, we saw it a lot.  To put in a inferior replacement, a superior roof like a slate roof with an inferior one, as well as shingles, is much harder to do. The better one is to see the thermal imaging of old homes with brand new insulated windows and the windows are all correct and the rest of the building and just venting. It's like, okay. So the other question, and this kind of tells on what Scott was saying, that this is an evolving piece, is that, and it's gonna be over a longer period of time, but there are going to be times when a non-contributing structure has been there long enough that it becomes a contributing one. So I hope there's some way in the bylaw that's written in that that can be reevaluated and changed. I was gonna bring that up. You've already identified that one. Remember those lovely aluminum, they have been on the houses now long enough to be quote, historic. That's true there, right. Right, so what the determination of contributing structure status says is what can be a contributing structures? Structures built before 1900, especially between 1820 and 1860, includes primary buildings and addition, can include accessory barns or sheds. It does not include fences, walls, driveways, parking area, landscaping, and trees. Those elements cannot be an contributing structure. So contributing structure is rooted in the Village Master Plan, and what are the things here that are contributing to that historic character? And it's primarily the 1800s and a few things in the early 1900s. So I got a question for you. I don't wanna drag this on too long, but Two Door Down is a 1940s cape, which is a beautiful little house for the time frame. And now your classification would not include that. That's a neat- They can bulldoze that home. Well, that's a neat little house because it's indicative of the time frame that it was built. And it's outside the window. It doesn't have any dormers on it. It's simple. That's a very sensitive design statement. I just think that it's indicative of the time frame of which it was created and the way your thing is built, that could get scraped. It could. So rather than say 1900, and again, I'm the first one to kind of poo-poo the fact that a building automatically becomes historic at age 50, which is what historic preservation says. I do think that at some point, if you say rat, not 1900, but 100 years old, now you're automatically kind of progressing that group. Some buildings will automatically over five or 10 years become a contributing member just because of their age. But I would almost wanna say that they need to be at least a certain age and indicative of the period in which they were built or a representative of the period in which they were built. Basically a copy-paste of the National Park criteria. Perhaps. Without knowing how it's by heart. I mean, there's a building for sale. I think this may have come up in a previous meeting, but down where the, down, straight down, route seven, route two, across next to the dentist's office that's being built, there's a house for sale. Just to the west of that, which is an old Sears house, as I understand it. And I would, I mean, I wouldn't, now it's in the wrong, it's only district, but this is our topic, but I would love to see somebody pick that thing up and move it someplace just to keep it from getting demolished and so, anyway, that's all. Yeah, so a subtext to this whole bylaw revision is there is interest from the hack in expanding the historic overlay. That's beyond the scope of what the village master plan called for, it would require, you know, a town plan amendment first, say, consider expanding to a town-wide historic overlay. There was a lot of heartburn over the Roe-Bear House when it got torn down to build U-Haul. The Sears house sits in the same. And the Sears house is in the same zoning district because currently there's only protection in the village zoning district, but the majority of historic structures are actually outside of that village zoning district when you just look at the hard numbers. So I think there would be a future where this, and I tried to draft the standard to scale up if it were to be copy pasted to other parts of the town and there was a town-wide overlay. But I appreciate your point and I think that's something that we can add in that it's not just looking at a fixed period of time, but it can evolve. And the way a non-contributing structure is written is alterations over time. So they're probably deep within the fiber art store. There might be something that's over 100 years old. I don't think corner quick. I'm not sure when it was built, but I don't think it was 1800s based on some photos I've seen, but again, something where the wind that was in the roof and the siding, so many things have been changed incrementally is even a contributing structure anymore. And that is a determination. On the other hand, so that actually becomes kind of the opposite argument here. It's not necessarily old, but it's a fixture in town. And you could probably do a little booklet on that building that's changed over time and the role that is played in the history of the town and therefore, does it have some other historical significance in the history of the town? Because I think that makes it something a contributing factor. Okay, so for whatever reason, some president got shot here and died in that building. It becomes a contributing factor right there, even if it's only 20 years old. If something really historically significant happens, it becomes, again, I'm exaggerating that, but there could be something really important happening. Right, so I'm hearing what you're saying and I think that is something that I'm in agreement with to add that scalability based on what the, basically the National Park Standards are. It's more than just 50 years. It's the timeframe and style is exemplary and maybe something significant local or nationally happened there. The way this determination standard is currently written, the determination letter is issued by the zoning administrator and I think there's some opportunity there with how the noticing is set up if it should be, you know, a warned public hearing. So there's more opportunity for that discussion and that judgment call to be made in a forum. Well, probably owners have an option of like appealing type of. Yeah. Like when the list is, you know, yes, I'm appealing. My house is not historical. I don't want that. I don't want it to be a contributing structure, you know.  Same with the mineral one time. Same with my barns. Appeal, but hopefully they would be coming with. I did not take state money because I did not want to give them access. You know, you would be providing photos and documentation and evidence. There might be some professional opinions requested. So show us that these aren't the original windows and that so much has changed over time that it is a 1960s house, not an 1860s house, like prove it. Some things in the village, it's obvious just looking at it, that it's contributing like the slate bar or the Lantman house. Other things, it's a little stickier. It's going to be some work initially to come up with that list that's contributing what's not. And once you've done it, oh, there's going to be a. Yeah, and that's why we're doing it as this letter standard. So if somebody doesn't change anything about their property for years and years, they might never have to go through this. But if they're going to be making a change where I want to demolish and build something brand new, well, you might want to start with this first before you submit your application to demolish because it can go two different ways. All right. Yeah. How's fun with that only? There's more, so just, there's surveys online. If you skim through it and have feedback, I'm open to all, all input at this point. Okay. I got a home to add for this, that significant event occurred at. That gigantic home that's at the, it's at Walker Hill. Yeah. It was built with stolen, don't be. Oh, yeah. And then seized by the federal government. You ever been inside that thing? What? Yeah, I've been inside twice. Once when they had it for auction and once when one of the contractors fell in the foyer off the scaffolding all the way to top with a step ladder on the top of the scaffolding and he went down.  And all of a sudden I watch engine one get smaller and smaller and I'm going, holy crap, that building is huge. I thought it was like a double wide from the road. It's 20 acres, by the way. Okay. Let's get this back on track. So is there a motion to approve the meeting minutes of July 26, 2022? Okay. Is there a second? I'll second it. Dave Turner seconds. Any discussion? Hearing none. Yay or nay? Paul? Yay. John Hemmelgarten? Yay. Scott Riley? Okay. Dave Turner? Yay. Nate Andrews? Yay. Chairs are yay. Six in favor. None opposed? Meeting minutes are approved. Is there a motion to adjourn? So moved. A second? Second. John Hemmelgarten seconds it. All in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank you all.


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I will post below the video I did on my favorite protein supplements and powders. They are all complete proteins. They are all plant based, all vegan. Check those out below. How many times per week should you work out? You should not be working out if you are still sore.  So you're going to need to take a little bit more time off. You can engage if you're ready to go back, but if you just have no more muscle soreness, it's a really easy rule of thumb to follow. You don't need to be doing three times a week and all these different sets and reps. A good rule of thumb is two days a week weight training, three to four days a week cardio, four to six days a week flexibility.  I do a full body workout, one set to absolute failure. That means I'm only doing one set of each exercise, but I use a heavy enough weight that my muscles are maxing out and absolutely failing in between the six to 10 rep range. When that happens, you are in the zone of max muscle hypertrophy or max muscle growth. One more thing I want to talk about when it comes to these abs. Do not do crunches, please. Crunches or other ab exercises that round the back are very bad. They promote bad posture. They also shorten the obliques. If you're a lady, you're going to have some more saggy breasts because of this. Nobody wants to jerk the chest, right? Okay, so leg raises are great for the core. Also, you are working out your abs any time you do free weights. So any amount of weight that can go in a full range of motion. So things like cables, dumbbells, all of that, full range of motion, you are working out your core. I can't remember the last time I did ab exercises. Okay, I heard it's not good to eat the same things every single day. Why is it just boredom? No, it is not just boredom. Your pancreas emits enzymes that help your body break down, assimilate, and digest the foods that you're ingesting. So if you are eating the same things day in and day out, you are overworking your pancreas. And also, you're making it kind of forget about and not really care about producing those other enzymes. So it's really good to be switching up your diet. Food rotation is great. The best rule of thumb for food rotation is every four days.  You could have chicken for breakfast, lunch, and dinner on Monday. Don't have it again for another four days. Have something else. Great rule of thumb. Is it really that important to be eating breakfast? There is so much controversy out there about this topic, especially with this new wave of intermittent fasting that's going on. Intermittent fasting is very good for the body. You usually have an eight-hour eating window, a 16-hour fasting window, include the sleep in the 16 hours. So that's not the only way to do it. There are different ways of combining your hours when it comes to intermittent fasting. But it does mean that you'd be having breakfast later in the day. If you are hungry in the morning, that is your body saying that it needs food. So you want to be eating if your body is asking for food. If your body needs food, it needs food. So if you are super hungry first thing in the morning, don't fret. That just means your metabolism is kicking in.  I usually like to have a smaller breakfast first thing in the morning. So I have a smoothie, a green smoothie. And then maybe an hour or two later I have something more hearty, like a bowl of oatmeal with banana and protein in there as well or a couple of eggs on toast or something like that. Next. I eat a lot of fruit day in and day out and I drink a lot of tea. Is that in replacement of water? That question was worded a little strangely. I think she's asking, is that adequate enough for replacing your water intake within the answer is no. The more opaque a substance is, so the more you can't see through it, the more the body is going to use that as a food source or see that as a food source. So you're going to need to be having your clear waters, water with lemon is okay. Anything that you can really see through is going to hydrate your body properly. Which is more important? Counting macros or counting calories and why? Counting macros is very much more important than counting calories. I do not count calories and I do not count macros. The reason why is because I come from a past that included an eating disorder. So counting calories for me, I've done a lot of research on that subject and it is absolutely useless. It is not like calories in versus calories out. That's not all it boils down to. Yes, if you do eat in a caloric deficit, you are going to lose weight. However, if you're only going by calories, yeah, you could eat McDonald's every day all day or other unhealthy such processed things, but you're going to be losing your muscle. You're going to be making yourself unhealthy. It's just not a good way to go. Your body will treat 100 calories of fruit far differently than it will treat 100 calories of steak. It's completely different in the body. A calorie is just a unit of energy. So if you do really want to count one of these things, count your macros. Make sure you're getting a minimum of half your body weight in pounds in grams of protein per day. That's a great rule of thumb. I wouldn't be having too many carbs, but don't eliminate carbs. All of these fad diets, the keto diet, the South Beach diet and the Atkins diet, it is not necessary to completely eliminate one source of macronutrient. Carbs, technically a carbohydrate is anything that never once had a set of eyes, so that includes all veggies and such. For carbohydrates for me, I eat a lot of sweet potatoes, bananas, oatmeal, things like gluten-free breads here and there. I try to stay away mostly from dairy and from breads containing gluten, because it is inflammatory and will cause water retention. So, that is probably the best explanation I've got for counting calories or macros, which is more important. I really follow in toot of eating now. That just means I eat what my body is asking for. I am very healthy, so I don't get unhealthy cravings like for chips or chocolates or anything. If you are getting cravings, it usually means that your body is asking for something else. For example, if you're craving chocolate, your body often wants magnesium, things like that. There's a lot of info online about that. If you want more info on that, please comment below and I'll give you more info on that. Okay, that leads me to the last question. What are the go-to supplements that you recommend? I always, always recommend fish oil. Fish oil is highly beneficial to the body. If you are vegan, you can try Omega-3s. They do come in vegan form as well, so that would just be an Omega-3 capsule. You really, really, really, really want to load up on the Omega-3s. Fish oil does tend to work the best with anyone that's had ancestry that's far away from the equator. So if your ancestry was in a place that had heavy winters, you're going to really thrive on fish oil in the body. I also recommend vitamin D, especially if you live in North America. Everybody in North America is in a deficit of vitamin D between the months of October and May. So I highly recommend supplementing with vitamin D. You can take up to 2,000 units per day. I get mine from Costco. Each capsule contains 1,000 units, so one in the morning, one at night. Very simple. The next supplement I would probably recommend is magnesium. A lot of people are magnesium deficient. I drink a magnesium powder called COM picture here. So I would be throwing that into your daily supplement intake, but it's up to what your body needs. You can get that tested with blood tests or see a natural path for that information. Okay, thank you so much for listening. Thank you for watching. 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What they gon' do with me now? I'm still a twerk of the town Fuckin' the sisters, I'm hoakin' them down Reaching the smiles and the frowns and gang hop off Alright, hey what's up y'all We got a new episode of twerk of the town Today we got a special guest Chajiz Alright, I think it's those gold door like Alright, so What's the like back story on your name? Like how did you pick this name? Just On my G's So like for me I just put the G's under my name Like Chajiz Like for me everybody always called me Chajiz And I was going up and shit But like I put the G's in it Always been like that though Okay And how did you get started with music? When I was locked up Like Not this time when I came home Last time Like the last time Like I started locked up For me So you was writing inside? Yeah And then like So what made you like finally go to the studio And lay that down? I was starting off with love songs I wasn't really doing drugs Okay I wasn't really into that Like drug shit Love Until the drill wave Like came about See everybody doing that I see that so everybody like So But you would go back to love songs Or what you think? Yeah Do you remember the first song you recorded? Do you remember the name of it? TBO Okay And then like How do you feel like you grew from then to now? Mmm I got way better Way better And some lyrical cadence Delivery Like delivery Okay And like yeah My lyrics too a little bit But I got, I think my energy though Like boosting my shit up Like many people really want to listen though I didn't think my like I got an inner tone voice Like for me Like when I get aggressive And I got that regular voice Where I'm just regular So like I started off like that with my regular voice If it ain't sound right to me For me So I just like Try something new And I should just I don't know Well it's not like they're starting to be like Your voice now Not yet So That's cool So when you first got in the booth Who was supporting you like from day one? Who was like always a supporter?   Went to school together?   Drill Drill Okay Who's the most underrated artist? There's a couple There's a couple I ain't no one or two My son Blitz My son Jigari Okay What talk of the town Award should Shajis Be nominated for?  Okay Artist who should be performing? That's not Artist should be performing for Me Okay Favorite app Instagram Who would you want to be stranded on the island with?       Um Sometimes when I'm in the studio I might go over the whole song But I might redo the whole song right after that Like I would still be in the studio and I would still like redo it Like my energy might not be there for this part But for some parts it might be there So I might feel like I gotta go back Do it over Come back again Like that's just me Okay what are the three things you feel like you need in the studio? Um we Perks That's it Okay And I would say you and you seem like y'all the closest How did y'all meet?  You think so?     Nah, he ain't. Y'all have a good understanding for like? Smaller. So do you be shocked at some of the stuff he said on camera or it be kinda like? Why he be talking like that like, right? Low key, yeah. I don't bother me though. He don't really talk crazy like, for me, it's like he here for, at the end of the day, when you see his videos, you see in him, like. Act like that to everybody. Yeah, for me, so like, it's not like he just acting like that with you and not going, for me, it's like. Mm-hmm. And then, so would you collab with more YouTubers? You feel like? Yeah. I'll collab with more YouTubers. Like who? Do you watch any of them or not? DDG. Okay.  Dere Bianca or something like that? They're a couple. D&B Nation or something like that? I don't know who's the mom. I don't know.  Nah, nah. No, it's okay.  Do you have a date, release date? I don't really got no date, but when everything gets situated and stuff, no, I got a date. Whatever day I say after that is just. That's the date. That's the date. Okay, do you have any collabs on the way? Me and Yuz. Uh-huh.  Y'all gonna do like an EP for the people? I feel like y'all got that music. He definitely about to drop the EP though.  No, like a collab EP, like y'all two together. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, thanks, thanks, thanks. Soon come on the way and so how do you, how are you feeling about the music scene overall? On the other side. On the last time you said drill is down to like the last of the last. You still feel that way? We still feel that way.  They got locked up, so like for a little bit of people out here. And it's like, if the people out here don't structure up, then niggas is gonna be locked up. The people out here, yeah. And after that, it's just like, who on, you know what I'm trying to say for everybody? It's just like, they not only doing that for them, they doing it for the black culture. So what is like, what do you want your career to look like? Do you want like? I don't know, I just want to be rich.  Okay, just change circumstances. I just like, whatever I could do to be rich, I'll do it. So do you feel like you need a major record deal or you'll be cool like staying independent with a dish show deal? I remember before you were saying you want to stay independent. For me, I'm gonna work on that, I'm gonna work on that. Cause I'll still be thinking of myself for me. It's still early, you know?  Do you think you're gonna tap into something else besides your music? Yeah, I gotta love something coming on the way. I'm gonna drop it as an audio though, but I'm not dropping it. Did I get you the video? Nah, unless I head off. If I head off on audio, then I'll do a video, cause I know. Nah, you gotta do a video. We gotta get the full effect. Nah, I know, but they ain't ready for that right now. They still want me to be on a stick to my dresser. I already know. Yeah.  No, thanks, of course. So how does that come like when like dating and stuff?   You gotta be, you gotta pick the right one, man. Even if you gotta, even if you probably, like, sometimes you gotta just stick with the one you was down with for before, cause sometimes you're not gonna, you a rapper, so you're not gonna wanna date. Mad bitches.  Okay. So sometimes you gotta stick with the female you had before them to switch it up. Like, you know what I mean?   And like, what type of support do you need? Like, I know you said, I think I'm one of your songs, you said they was writing you letters in jail. Do you want like support like that? Or do you need like, just showing your music love? Like, what type of support? Nah, just like, just be there for me though, like. All right, I said I have the question, like, God forbid I get locked up.  But females gonna be females regardless though. For me, get locked up, it's just like, it's like when you home, it's all cool, everything good, you get locked up. I for probably a month, hold it down, I bet, cause she don't know where you probably come home, she don't wanna just do something with somebody. Like for me, we got a little, for me, they give you a little time. Once they feel like that time up, they ran into somebody new. So what was that? I don't know, they just do, they do. So how do you feel about the girls that get into like the street stuff? Like, do you need your girl spending blocks or she don't need to be doing all that? Nah, she don't need to be doing that. Okay, so gotta be separate? Yeah, just gotta be here for me, that's it, but I don't even want you doing all that.  What you don't want, don't want.  Okay, so that's the good.  Okay, and I know that, recently you reacted to someone on Twitch listening to your song. Oh yeah. So did that surprise you that I guess your apps bump your music or? No, I don't really know that though.  So do you think they're supporting or they're trying to be funny? Or what do you think?   Ain't no, ain't no law, no.  But like for certain songs, they're post. And that's how I really know they really listen. Okay. All right, and do you listen to your apps? No. Do you listen to here, if your name was mentioned or never? Like never. Nah, yeah, I hear my name mentioned. I be in my crib, be like, hold on, let me see. Cause I see the drill pages posting it. And I'll look, I'll tell you my name. I let it keep going for me. I let this song in. What's the song in though? Go into the studio. Nah, I don't know, I don't know.   So it's just like, that's what other niggas do though. Niggas go to the studio. Now if I'm going on my way to the studio and I hear a sign about me, then I bet like that's different. But I don't just wake up, hear a song. Oh yeah, now let me go to the studio.  Yeah, so, yeah, okay. All right, so it just really depends. Me, what gangsta? Okay. And I guess just let the people know when they can expect new music.   I forgot about that. It's over, it's over now. I'm already, my new Instagram already about to have 40K. Yeah. So it's like. What happened with the old Instagram though?    That was me. But yeah, new Instagram going up. New Instagram going up. Tell the people where to find you, how did it happen? Shout G, shout underscore GZ. Shout underscore GZ, underscore underscore. Okay. And then new music on the way? New music on the way. Everybody tuning. You see G for L, out now. Purge out now. Now it's going up.


we're doing a little wrap up of our three sessions this afternoon. So we had for the breakout sessions, we had three hazard breakouts. The first was we had earthquake, heat, and flood. There were differences between these three different kinds of hazards based upon their speed of onset. Organizations that are intermediaries and interaction of compounding of hazards. And there's a couple of things that stand out to me from these three breakouts. Of course, there's other things that differ between those hazards also, but that was just me summarizing. The first thing I thought it was jargon, technical language versus plain language. Scientists and experts using language that's meaningful to them but may not be meaningful to the public. We heard that across all three breakouts. The second thing was determining what information people need for decision-making. Do they need maps? Does that improve their understanding? Should we be focusing on impacts? Should we be pointing out people's vulnerabilities? What's going to help people to make decisions to take action? The third thing we heard across the breakouts was the need for partnerships and intermediaries with community organizations, with public health, with industry and private sector and technology. And then the fourth thing I heard was that there are new products and new technologies such as heat risk, FIM, and even the earthquake early warning shake alert system. These tools are being created. They're also being assessed. And we're not just assuming that they're working because they are approved internally or by other experts, which I think is a good cheer on for organizations that are taking into consideration the public needs. All right. There's there were so much great stuff. I'm on just a couple of key points. The things I heard that I found fascinating. First one I liked and I got it. I'm going to use this one. We trust the forecasters not the forecast. I thought that was fascinating because it tells you how non meteorologists are having to process the uncertainty in forecast. The second thing I really liked that I thought stood out was Drew's description of people don't get storm surge. Yet you use storm surge to communicate risk to the public. And he's saying they don't get it, folks. I'm out there showing them how high the water is going to be with a poll. So again, as we talk about jargon, and this has come up again, we tend to use terms. And I remember this for the weather service. When is a tropical cyclone no longer a tropical cyclone? And we dealt with this in Sandy. And we went from having no hurricane warnings up because Sandy was not going to be a hurricane, yet more people drowned in storm surge from Sandy than other storms. So this this tendency for precision I've heard this several times versus use plain English. I thought that was something that stood out. Tom's had an excellent point. I brought this up. I don't think people understand how much emergency managers are reluctant to activate warning systems when there's uncertainty. I call it being my my shy, but look at everything from Maui to Paradise on they weren't activating their warning systems. And could that have changed? And in Jim's presentation on we're not just speaking to a monolith, we're speaking to neighborhoods, we're speaking to economic sectors. The one thing I wanted to ask this question around time, but I want to put it out there is because of all the politics, how do we communicate to the undocumented? We're saying we need them to register with government. You're going to register with government and trust government if you are risking deportation. So again, I think there was a lot of richness to it. But again, I trust the forecasters, not the forecast, local emergency managers. People don't get storm surge. I got to get a poll out there and show them that this is what it means. You know, emergency managers were reluctant to pull the trigger and use warning systems when there's uncertainty and life is on the line. And you would think it'd be like obvious. And again, going back to Jim's point, we're not dealing with one monolith. We're dealing with a community. There's different influencers. You have to be able to communicate differently. So to me, I just thought those were really excellent points that came out of that. Okay, a few thoughts. Start out with arts clothes, never easy, emergency management, life and death, reputation, so much is on the line every day when they're being faced with those decisions. It seems like they each talked about lessons learned from past events. So that's good. I mean, obviously they're investing how did, what went wrong, what could have done better and those, and they lose those. But the other thing that came across to me was they're incredibly prepared. You know, they have all they do their desktop exercises where they know the details of their areas. Jeff was talking about the phase evacuations. How do we get it out so we minimize the congestion? All these things just take incredible effort and resources well ahead of any event that they're prepared. They know how to work. They know how many hours or days they need for a particular lead time. And they have it. It sounds like just, you know, the clockwork that they really need to minimize the impacts as they go through that decision making process. The other thing it came across is they're clearly, you know, just head down, heads down, focused, resourceful. They don't have the luxury like, you know, some other areas. And I would never say like in academia where they get to wait a little bit longer. But, you know, they have to make a decision, right? And so they're heads down and they figure out resources. If they don't get that information, they still need to make a decision. So they figure out how to go through that process. I think in a really, really remarkable way. A final thing that came through is they lean heavily on this really trusted relationship with NOAA and the National Weather Service. And there's so much benefit there. Not only, like Archie mentioned, the personal call to his EOC from the Weather Service saying, look, we don't want you to catch you off guard. We're going up into a four, be prepared. That undoubtedly saved lives. And it got that information out there in a way that it was this partnership that they'd lean so heavily on. And the other thing that that does is it does allow them some buffering or protection from this noise going on outside, this, this trusted communications channel, you know, media. Yeah, they have their, they have their motivation. They play a critical role in that communications. But they don't have to try to filter out what's marketing, what's real. They go to the Weather Service, which is focused on that partnership and that communication. So that was really important piece as well. Yeah, that's probably it real quick. Just, yeah, really, really remarkable roundtable in my mind. And the one thing I want to come back on both roundtable is mine. The people actually making the decision to order an evacuation. In most cases, or political leadership, you either have the background or the training and rotate frequently. And so in many cases, you know, we talk about the emergency managers, top of the weather service, is you got to remember, there's a factor in there, the elected officials and how they respond to that information. And as you start from Archie, it's not an easy decision to make. He's Paris president, he's got to make these decisions. He could get, you know, this could be an election issue. Yeah, that's it.


Hi everyone, Joe for jaskiescasebreaks.com coming at you with 2021 Panini Mosaic basketball hobby pack break number eight, the last filler we got to do to unlock that immaculate baseball. A third of the break will be winning spots. Big thanks to this group here for making it happen. I appreciate it. We had a great late night rally two, which is awesome. There are all the teams right here and we're going to first dice or we're going to do the break first. And then the second dice will be the giveaway part. All right, three and a one, four times for names and teams, one, two, three, and a one, fourth and final time. And then three and a one, four times for the teams, one, two, three, and a one, fourth and final time. All right, here's the first half of the list right here and the second half of the list right over here. All right, so no trade windows in these filler breaks. Let's just sort by team, alphabetically by team. Let's just print and rip and then we can get to see who's going to win those immaculate spots. So that's the immaculate break right there. We're going to do this in a different video, in a separate video if you're looking for that. All right, here's the print out. Hot off the presses. What happened here? What? Oh, I know what I did. I was like, what in the world happened? Sorry, trees. You're missing the whole point of this break, Joe. If you're disappointed by the teams that you got, this part doesn't matter. Not really. What matters is the second dice roll. Save that for the second dice roll, Joe. Save all that commentary for the second dice roll. If you're already angry now, all right, we've got a special turnbull 41. Out of 99, blue and a Dylan Carlson silver. Not bad. Cardinals. Terry will get the Dylan Carlson. Pretty solid youngster for the Cardinals, Austin Martin introductions, and the Spencer turnbull blue will be for Jonathan. All right, so like I said, not really wondering about here, but we're wondering who's going to win those spots. That's the important part. This is where everyone's energy should be devoted. There's the second dice roll. There's all the names again. Let's roll it and randomize it five and a two seven times for that list. Lucky seven. Lucky for some of you. Lucky for the top 10. Good luck. One, two, three, four, five, six, and seventh and final time. After seven, top 10. So from 11 on down, no dice, sad times, but I appreciate you trying. Happier times though for the top 10 because you're in that immaculate break. Dan, Jonathan, Jonathan, Matt, Terry, Rex, Charles, Joe P, Evan, and Jonathan. Congrats to the top 10. We'll see you in the next video for the break. Bye-bye.