Fryd yn Unig, fel y pwg hwnnwnt am y cyflwyteb sydd wedi'u bod yn fwy i'r ffordd yma hefyd ym 1878fM serfodd sefydig i'r Gymraeg Gwyl Llywodraedd. Forydd Wyrdd Gwyl Gwyl Llywodraedd ond y gaf am sixioach ffilm pan yma ond hito'r 23 i 24 sefydig. Felly, fy helywch ar gyfer 900 sefydig am gwybod Iwwcaeth, mae i'r gweithio gyda'r cyfrifiad. Dyma'n teulu yr wyliad hynny yn wneud gwsgol Llywodraedd, ar gyfer y sefyll y bydd, y bydd, y content, ac ymgyrch yn ddechrau'r gwasanaeth iawn. Y Prifedd oedd y Lleidwyr i'w gwneud yma ar Wyrddol Cymru a'r Ffyrddol dros ym Mwyllgor Llywodraeth Ffyrddol. Yn ddim yn ei ddod, rydyn ni'n gynnydd ar bod. Ffyrddol jydych chi'n gweithio'r 1878 ffyrddol ffyrddol. Mae'n wneud ar y Cymru. Wrth i. Felly mae'n meddwl, mae'n gymryd iawn, ond ar y hollent yn yrydd, sy'n i'r hollent. Neal Wool's y fath, unrhyw mewn y fath, y fath's ar y bod yn olaf ar y hollent, a y llunio am dawn nhw. A mae'n ymdweud y byddai sydd yn ei wneud y fath. fe bwrdd dad o'r f bringtoedd cwrs yn y garysgent, do fi? Ha-ha-ha-ha. Do you know like when, like American TV, you used to make loads of like 22 episodes, a series. So you'd get like, you know, episode of Friends where some fella from out of town were coming and they had had a relationship, and she doesn't really want a relationship with you. That happened maybe like three times a season, you know it's like this again, just the different fella. Just the different fella, it happens early. Felly dyna'n cyhoeddwyd, dyna'n meddwl o'r braidd. Felly dyna'n bwysig ar y gweithio. Felly mae'r braidd, mae'n gynghreifft. Felly mae'n ddweud o'r stori i'r bwysig. Rwy'n meddwl, mae'r braidd. Felly mae'n adrodd o'r reitio. Felly, mae'n braidd. Wals, fernimol, felly mae'r braidd. Felly mae'r bwysig ar y cyfans, ac mae yw'r bwysig ar y cerddau. Mae'r bwysig ar y miliwn. Felly mae'r bwysig ar y miliwn. Mydwch yn ddigonio'r gwirioneddau ahol hynny? Cyn byddai maen nhw'n gilydd fel y cyfly nellaeth. Rym ni'n ddigonio'n dim yn gilydd o hyn. Fy ben yw'r adeilad yw'r sefydliad. Mynd i'm fydd y gallu i mi? Fyn bod hynny'n qufifio. Android yw fi'n ddwynyddu'r ysgol iawn. Cyn gwybod y gallu hynny'n gwybod mwy gilydd. Bwyd rydd yn golygu a hynny'n gwybod… Bydd y llemio biddilion. Maen nhw'n cael cael cael ei defnyddio. Mae roedd Ileidio wedi gweld, mae efallai gweledo ni i'n meddliadau i'ch bydd i'ch arall. Mae grannu eu chynig. Efallai siarad arraithiaid. Felly yn gyda'n gweinol, byddai i chi'n gweinol. Ond efallai fel mwy. Mae gen i'r pwyllgoronol efallai? Mae gen i unrhyw. Ychydig yn gweld, mae'r sgwr yn llwyffol yn y gweld. Felly, rwy'n cael iddi. Mae gen i chi, oherwydd mae'n meddyliau. moins like those for you know like things like step up them kind of dance films where they meet up in the car park and all this in all the parts alright so they have these things are like oh we're having this dance software, it can't be anywhere in the cars line up put the headlights on and they're going, and maybe it have to be like that, we wouldn't actually get a theatre but we just need a clearing with some light and obviously a sound system. Very much like John Cove Van Dammer i Anil Wal where he had to have a fight in an Wym siaradio i'n gweithio. Ond gan hoffi, mae'n dweud i gloch i'w bydd. Mae'r bwrdd i gilydd. Mae bwrdd i gilydd. Rwy'n i'n gofio eich dangos o'r yeist痴. Yn yn fawr, mae eich hoffi yn collibu. Mae'r falm rhaid gwybodaeth. Rhaid i chi'n atwent eich hoffi. Pwyddoch yn bod yn gwneud. Mae'n gwesti i chi'n gwylliant o erbyn. Byddai i chi'n ei byddai. Let's listen, there was a game at the weekend. I know we've started trying to avoid you talking about it and that's sometimes that is the best tactic to adopt. Before we get into it, we are obviously a manchai again this week. Mr Bush is again pulled out. Can I just stop you for a minute? Are we going to play this by the way because I get the feeling now that actually Bush isn't going to be a regular fixture for this season. Therefore, sort of excusing is his absence every week. I think we have to regard it as being that Bush will just make the odd cameo before when he can. I think a bit like Brad Pitt in Friends. Very much so, very much so. I was thinking because it is the start of this part because there's very much evidence based. I almost feel like we are following in the footsteps of evidence for so long. Whereas we haven't had the strike and there's been no backup, we're kind of doing it. So maybe we should now get our recruitment team on to someone who we can bring in. There's not someone to back up. I'll be honest Dave, we've had a preliminary conversation Dave, to be honest. Really? About possible changes to this playing squad? Well, just in addition. Just someone who can come off the bench? Yeah, essentially. Very regularly? Very regularly. Do you have somebody whose name you can share? I think we'll leave that. I think those discussions may be better for off it. We wouldn't want to build it up very much again like Brad Pitt or any other guests. Or in D.J. Adams. You know that kind of thing. We very much want to be doing our business in the background. But we will bring you up to speed on that Dave once we are off it. I mean we have to tell that person first. We would. That person's not being asked by the way. He's just come to mind us. She could be a she, you never know. But realistically it won't. It won't be a she. No it will be a male. Or whatever he identifies us. So Andy Bush is a comedian to be fair. Andy Bush isn't here but he has sent us his thoughts by way of the interweb video messaging. So here he is. Hey fellas, it's Bush how you doing? Sorry I can't be with you for this episode. Just on my way into work. I'm looking like Bear Grylls because we've got no war in the house because we've got some work done on the kitchen. So we've gone full beard and backpack. I might start living in the woods or something. OK, my take on the Everton situation. I'm going to be quite positive about it. If you look at those three games, the amount of chances we've created, but frustratingly not scored, I genuinely feel like we're one beto shaped piece of the puzzle away from being alright. And that's all it takes is fine margins. Goal scoring in the Premier League isn't it? I don't know, I think we're nearly there. I know it's really frustrating and it just seems to go on forever, but I feel like we're nearly there. Still not a lot of injuries and stuff as well. I feel like we're going to be OK. But I feel like this team, this is terrible to say at the start of the season, but I feel like this team is worse than us that we can get away with this season whilst we kind of reconver less and rebuild. But it doesn't absolve the board from just being absolute idiots and jokers and stuff like that as well. It's hugely frustrating but I'm looking on the positive side of things. Banks Bush, the top man, they're walking along very bare grills as he said. He does look like he wants to live in a forest. He's bare grills code for Trump. But bare grills, last time I seen bare grills, he was on the side of the sea. He didn't look like it. He was very brushed. He was clean shaven. So it's Bush saying bare grills when he's in the wild. But when I seen him in the wild with Barack Obama that time he was clean shaven. He was actually, I remember that as well. He was somebody who spent so much time away from regular bathroom facilities. Absolutely. He always looks very well presented, I think. He's not the sort of wild man that perhaps Bush is angling for. Almost like it's a setup. I don't know where it's a setup but maybe a bit... I like to look at bare grills. I like to see myself in bare grills. You'd like to see yourself in bare grills. I knew you were going to go there with that. I knew that that was the easy tapping that Everton still would have missed by the way but I knew because my idea of camp on would be very much like I think bare grills idea of camp on is now which has set you lot up with the tent and I'm going to the hotel but I'll be back in the morning to have a go at you. That would be my kind of camp on.  He does. Is that the one that's going to be on the wall in ten years? Not that one is it? The busted body. Busted body. Low to women with three breath.  Come on. That's your age. That's your niche. I know, I've been to the year 3000. You have? Busted a couple of times Dave. I've met Busted. I've met McFly. I've met Muck Busted, the obviously collaborative supergroup. Exactly. I've met them all individually and indeed collectively and they are very, very nice champs. Excellent. Charlie won the massing, didn't he? Charlie did. Can we just get back to Everton just for a minute and then we can do that. Dave, Andy's seen quite a bit there really. You know he's basically, what Andy was basically saying was Everton have created a whole host of chances and if we get better in and at the time of recording it hasn't been confirmed all out it is all but none. And Everton start putting the ball on the net they'll be fine. Is that your reading of it or are you a little bit more downbeat just right now? You know that general upbeat and positivity isn't my forte but I'm actually willing to go along with the joy that Bush is spreading to an extent because I can see that situation. We said this after the first game after the full-on game is that on the positives they were creating chances and they continue to create chances. So the law of averages if that's the right expression would suggest that goals have to start getting converted soon. From what I've seen of Beto, he looks a good player. He's strong he's got good feet he's going to make a real new in terms of the goals that I've seen him score during his career he looks like the sort of player that will be able to handle the Premier League and will make a nuisance of himself and if we can actually service him then he should score goals and so to Bush's point, you start putting some in the back of the net from all of these chances that you created then obviously it's a different game and goals with football matches and then we wouldn't be sitting at the bottom with no points and no goals. Let's try and stay positive because I'm getting to the point now where I can't just be this flat every week I don't think it's healthy for anybody individually or us or the club as a whole it's just got to start changing soon and we've just got to the addition of some firepower will make a difference we shall see. I think he's right in a way the problem just right now is that I was saying to you off air wasn't I? Because we have been in this we've just been in this pit of misery for a couple of years that they do just start merging and so therefore it's almost like the next game becomes it becomes a culmination of the past two years. Like on Saturday I was I was raging with them but I was also deeply upset because normally I'm frustrated or I use a crap or whatever but my boy was distraught at the end of the game like devastated and I've never seen him like that he's watched, he's been a season ticket holder for enough years and I don't know if it's not very good but he was saturday affected because I think it's that thing of like he come away from following you go and we had a load of chances and like we're devastated to be lost but you know what they will go in you don't have two games like that doesn't happen in a season and we just had back to back home games where it's happened and so I was angry with Evan for making him feel like that you know what I mean because it is a case of like passing up so many good opportunities it's nonsense it's almost like we make the most basic things seem difficult and I think Andy there has shown a classic trait of not going to Goddison very often I think that's what I'm being a bit removed from which is good because sometimes you get clarity that's fine it's just that when you're in it every weekend and you live and breathe it and when you've got to see your lad you know feeling that way it is and I do take Andy's points I did something last night with Chappers on 5 Live and said saw to the same thing with a striker we win those games comfortably with a striker sorry but we haven't got a striker we didn't have a striker and again it's that thing of like yourself sabotage yourself for the first three games like you did last and it's just a bigger symptom isn't it and it's like yes we can get a striker but can we fix that symptom well yes because winning games, scoring goals winning games that gives you the time to start fixing things behind the scenes so or listen we've had two on games where we should have really got six points I think where yes we're at the bottom we're not obviously after three games we're not certainly not cut a drift but Saturday is a huge game now and it's a huge game for the simple fact is if we were to lose then again for that two weeks we are again the crisis club the international break a lot of people start looking at show and dive people start looking at the club and what happens when people look at the club is the club can become very reactionary as well so it creates this really negative atmosphere and we have to wait for the next game then and tougher games are coming out one people say or Sean Dites as well will probably say this and I did say this on Saturday by the way even in the depths of despair I did say I expected to get better in a few weeks once Dwight McNeill's fit and all in the case he'll be fit after a break apparently Jack Harrison the looking at being fit after the international break Dominic Calvert-Lewin does talk he may even be fit this weekend and being the squad if Beto's rubber stamped which we expected to be he'll be in the squad this weekend things like that Dave all of a sudden there's firepower there ever and apparently still looking at a right winger as well all of a sudden you're looking going well then players actually you've got goals in them and make the team better and they're going to be available again after this break that way you're looking at it I don't dispute that and yes that's a positive way of looking at it and that's why we have to focus upon it but to go back to a point that Ped made an area that he was talking about forgive me for I'm going to bring the mood down here I'll forget about positivity for a minute it's a situation and I can only I don't know Kevin Thelwell but obviously we know what his role is at the club and therefore he's got to shoulder the responsibility and the blame as far as I'm concerned what you said before Ped in so much as the lack of recruitment in terms of we've effectively given away three games now because we haven't had anybody who can actually score a goal up there what earth is going on and again sorry for sound like a broken record but we talked about this at the end of last season we talked about it in January we talked about it the August before that and we've all known so how on earth did they or the powers that be think that they were rightly prepared for a new season still with no with no real fire power up front and then surprise surprise we don't score goals and put like oh do you know what we start looking for a striker it's like it's fucking obvious and has been for so long you know but do you know what I mean it's almost like they've only just realised oh because we didn't beat full of oh because we didn't do this oh maybe we should start looking at some strikers should we ever sniff around you know Danny Ings do we try and get Beto in do we get whoever in no should have fucking done it a year ago the thing about Dave is right and you're well it's you know the younger is you know how I feel generally all the time is Beto Evan have been looking at Beto since at least January they've been looking at him and this is what I can like square up is and I know there's financial problems and I know the same money comes in at different times and all this but how can you chase us how can you be after a striker and then why make the decision to go for him after three games I know Evan want him Evan have wanted him but why is that decision made in terms of like no but why now though this is what I'm saying why now why all right they went for trio right they've gone for Che Adams they've gone back in for Beto what changed like did did something free up at the football club did a direct debit get paid you know did you know what I mean is the catalogue being paid what's changed to allow this transfer to go through well I said to you that's what I find strange for them till next summer that's what's coming out so that's how the rude and easy have moved Evan you've just rightly said Evan had identified them in August but they went for him the minute he got some money in in January and he went for him three hours before the window shut so rude and easy were never ever going to sell the big striker top goals gore three hours before the window shut it was never happening and Evan have been interested in the whole thing he went for him early in the summer the terms of payment the posos he couldn't get it done he moved away from them so I can only think without any other information that dude and easy have budged on what they want but you're absolutely right you're absolutely right Dave we said this we talked before the January transfer window when Frank Lampard was still in charge and we were saying we need striker in and Evan don't please don't do what you did a year before which is sack your manager a week before the window shut and then scramble around low and behold Evan sack the manager three weeks into the January transfer window to get Sean dating a day before the window shut and then they scramble around he'd got Lampard in the year before on deadline day if we remember on deadline day you bring a manager so the striker thing doesn't surprise me what does surprise me is why they didn't look for Evan the great at getting loans so why didn't he get if it was a case of like we need some cash off why didn't he get a I'm sure someone would have loaned them something for two months if they could have picked them there's no other way of looking at it this is their job this is their job to make this business as successful as it can be and this is all part of it and for so long now this is their job and I'm sorry to point fingers but I can't think of anybody else who's more responsible for this situation currently than farewell well the board as a whole obviously maybe Dave I've been critical of our recruitment team just from the target they've gone for but what if and I am playing devil's advocate here but what if they have got stuff lined up and we just haven't got the money to do it that's surely to the owner I don't disagree that's also criminal negligence the owner for me the whole mess is criminal negligence absolutely the fact that a football club the size of ours is in a financial predicament where it can't compete we've got a billionaire owner who's an accountant and yet we've got money that doesn't even compute does it it doesn't even compute that your owner is an accountant and your accountant is so bad that to me is just like it's like having a building builder you own a building company it isn't it isn't it it isn't it isn't it's the simple fact is it's not really his money so it you would have thought even if if I'm minding your money there isn't any money there clearly isn't any money left where we are we are talking about whether he can go and phone his big mate up and say hello whatever and get money the money is still there but he's not allowed to play but what I'm saying is he should never have allowed it to get to him the simple fact is they ran the club with no regret because they thought the slush fund was coming in every month and then the minute it was cut off by covid and then by what happened they've gone oh god this club does not make any money so therefore what are we going to do now instead of getting that house in order first and then going well that's great and we've got the extra little money as well and they've done it all back to front and that's it isn't it really it doesn't really take too much explaining the guy might be a good accountant but he doesn't understand how to run a football club and it's got us to this situation and they're having to do a lot of deals back to front because that's where we are Dave we've got a obviously there's a cup game this week as well we're playing Don Casterio at the bottom of the entire football league and the league too this is already set up beautifully so you know I know it's a big stage that everybody can watch a potential huge humiliation and then send our already rock bottom situation into an even more laughable predicament this represents an opportunity for Evan to go on put a few goals past Don Casterio and kick start the season and maybe get a little shot in the arm of oh yeah we can actually put the ball in the back of the net that all being said would you give you what you came on for half an hour to weekend I thought he'd done alright for a young lad coming on would you start him tomorrow because obviously I don't think Don's not going to be fit mwy pae the looking to get out the door on Friday personally add gift a lad at least an hour tomorrow night absolutely why not the bottom line is he needs minutes needs game time and this is a perfect opportunity I would suggest to actually get some time and more time with the squad and hopefully you know something that's going to build his confidence yeah it can only be a good thing and this would be the ideal time but as you say playing someone who were in Don Caster's predicament would also sort of steer itself very nicely into Evan the musical it would to be fair it would how strong would you go as the manager tomorrow night 50-50 I think I think Godfrey Michalenko Chimity would start for me I think James Garner would start in Sentiment Field instead of Dysigana Gay and then put Dobban on the right maybe and Dan Jumar on the left and then yeah I think that would be how I would I would work and yeah maybe put Virginia and go Branthleite has to play again and he's got to play and Michalenko needs to play for the fitness obviously actually young Dysigana Gay they shouldn't be playing obviously a midweek game so yeah I'd go like that I wouldn't go like obviously I know people might say yes there's Tom Cannon and stuff like that Tom Cannon's going to go out on loan so Chimity is the player who needs game time yeah that's what I'd go with and we should have you know let's all joke on the side and we've done it before and it's all a cup game and there's a banana skin and whatever team he puts out tomorrow should be good enough to put three or four past Doncaster really should and actually if it isn't then the situation is worse than we suspected yeah absolutely absolutely Andy had a couple of questions for us as well so let's have a little look at them Question wise for you guys in my absence first question is bit of an ever to one if you could kind of go back in time and pluck out a long since retired Everton player from the past will you remember from your childhood and drop them into our team now who would you go for for me Tommy Graverson every time it's just what we need right now and then secondly secondly now what my second question should be let me think second question if you could break a world record for eating one thing for example I think that I could eat McDonald's cheeseburgers on stop I only stop eating McDonald's cheeseburgers out of politeness to other people but I don't think there's any limit on how many I could eat so if there's a thing you could eat non stop and probably get into the Guinness Book of Records what would it be let's deal with the first one because it's still evidently later so we'll tag it on to the end of the Everton thing Dave will come into you first if you could drop any Everton player who's retired into this Everton team can be from whenever but I think the caveat should be we've got to have seen them play so it's no point going Dixie Dean or Alan Ball or whatever who would you drop in that you think would make a difference into this Everton team right now Tim Cahill do you know what somebody who has got that passion that you know literally to drag a situation by the scruff of the neck and also had goals in him as well I think he's exactly the sort of influence that we need physically, mentally everything about him I just think that he was a great character was Tim Cahill you know from our recent past and I think he's the sort of he's the sort of you know character maybe but you know what I mean that's the sort of character I think that we are missing in that squad and I think there's somebody who could actually make a real difference to where we are just now absolutely I'm going to go for I'm going to go for Peter Reed Reed was on my mind Reed was on my mind someone who would just grab all of this bunch and just drag them through drag them through I mean you could say other people I'm sure you will there's loads of plays that you could mention I'd just love someone to just get hold of them and knock a few heads together and tell them how it is and run the game and he's a great footballer as well and yeah I would love someone like that in our squad it's great I hear them you know I know Seamus had Connor Cody talking on I think Ben Foster's saying about them and saying last season about how important it is for fans and to drag us through cloaks of that but Reed he could do it on the pitch as well middle of the park be huge for us because we don't have to I mean let's be honest there aren't that many characters like that in football full stop anymore but it'd be great to have someone like that he was tremendous because we would run the game as well he was that good that's how important he is for me in terms of Everton's history is that to this day we've never ever replaced Peter Reed to anybody of his calibre in that position absolutely it's difficult in it because you could go level south all and all and obviously all of them up to La Carche he's not the type to go a bit early but you cube, you know them type of thing Kinshelskis, what a player he'd make a massive difference but I'm going to just go for Bobby Dyrd I'm going to go for Gary Llynyche clearly obvious that you're going to go for Gary Llynyche why? because because he was unbelievable he was unbelievable and I think Reed absolutely he was on my mind I'm not going to say the same as you Tim Kayle, I love Tim Kayle, love him he's probably one of the very few Everton players I've loved with Pena, I love Stephen Pena he'd make a big leap in brains but Llynyche he'd just create it he would just get us out of so much trouble give him the chance go, we win the game it's game over and he'd just eradicate all we had Llynyche against Fulham and Wolves games would be done on our half three and you'd just go right being chill now and everyone else you can muddle by Reed is probably the one because I think he used to orchestrate a game for Everton he'd just win a game from the field I think all three in their own way what makes them so critical is none of them are scared of big games Tim Kayle was like not scared of going to one field or going to all three and there's very few, there's really good players who fear that but he stood up and he stood up you just said that which is amazing because Romally the Carch who was unbelievable for Everton but he didn't say enough in big games for us he was the perfect flat track bully almost Rom where as Kayle did absolutely show up and that's why he failed the big clubs because they had big games all the time and Reed put saying up all the time whether he's like was hanging off or whatever and then it just was a goal 40 goals in a season he just went missing a Roxford he did, he had a nightmare in the one game he needed him, he had an absolute mirror but there you go that was a good question from Andy Bush his second one is obviously a random one we love the rand this is what this podcast is based on a bit of pain at the start I didn't think this podcast was based on anything pain at the start and then it's as random as we can get going through it so Andy's second question was if you could break a well record by eating one type of food which would you go for like Andy himself would go for cheese McDonald's cheeseburgers he said other cheeseburgers are available obviously but he would go for that he just loved to do that and he said he only stops eating them out of giving other people the opportunity to eat them he suggested he could literally sit there all day and eat them Dave do you want to go first or do you want to ruminate on this and let Peg go first well I think where I'm struggling with this is the fact that I do agree with Bush so strongly there's not many things that I could literally just eat over and over again weirdly the McDonald's cheeseburgers is one of those I could eat four of those without even trying easily because they're just good not a lie they're just good they're just good and so yeah I totally support that argument and if we're talking about a numbers game which clearly we are in order to break the record it's difficult to see past that I'm just trying to think of something else be something you could eat in large numbers see I'm struggling because you know that I'm not greater eating am I does it have to be eating does it have to be eating something or what would it be that was his question it wasn't if you could break a world record what would it be it was food related keep that for other episodes when we're struggling for content there's going to be a numbers thing there's got to be something else which I can eat in volume and for that I'm going to say and say Pringles hanga that would be a good one because obviously you can get a lot I was going to say milk chocolate digestives I could eat a lot of those I could literally eat a whole packet of those without even trying so maybe I'd still given the choice it's still rather good on the cheese I'm going to say milk chocolate digestives ok fine lancer he's locked it in the cheese bag is there's something in them there's something in them do you know what it is? it's the onion there's something in them it might be something illegal you can just eat and eat them it's mad it is so weird maybe they're just so tasty see I've turned something off in your brain that tells you you're full honestly I'm telling you now go on then I'm going to go for maybe a conservation on this calling the caterpillars ok so you'd like to hold the record for eating the most I just think I could eat endless amounts of calling the caterpillars oh endless I struggle a bit with I'm not really a cake person as such I do like a calling the caterpillars cakes go but I don't think I could eat very much without starting to feel sick it's a tough one I've got obviously the balloon celebration cake from M&S is incredible that is a good one but if I was thinking about savoury I mean I'm not a ped generally if we go out and finish my meal anyway cos I'm not great at it that was in the old times now we're running out so you're an athlete if we go for the zingerberger the chicken, the spiciness it could probably I don't think you could hold the record though no but if I had if there was one that I could hold the record for they probably would be good I'd like to think that you could eat the zingerberger whilst looking up who had the record possibly I could do that I could definitely want zingerberger but I don't think that's going to break the record I mean it's not going to be newsworthy no no I don't know though Dave cos whatever he tends to do is newsworthy he's generally got, you know, carrager or a Neville or a bald housewife somewhere in the vicinity of him when he's eating you know the press won't leave him alone so so I'm sure I'll tell you what as well dairy milk chocolate marvellous creations that is it that's one marvellous cream I think that I think that the cabrie's chocolate and by the way it sounds like there's a lot of advertising going on it's not intentional we've been talking about McDonald's we've been talking about cabrie anyone wants to, you know, throw some free beer away but we could shit in them or be cold by the time they've got to do it we'll happily plug it plug your product whatever what was I going to say I think that cabrie's chocolate is the finest in the world there are countries in this world there is there are certain countries in the world such as Switzerland, Belgium who claim to be real chocolate as it were however I think that we in this country make the best chocolate and when you look at something like a dairy milk or it might even go for a fruit and nut or essentially it's the same source material that milk chocolate that cabrie's do is the finest anywhere fine lancer it's absolutely tremendous once you say fact what can people say don't give me Belgium and Switzerland their chocolate by comparison for me is rubbish what they do is they just go very much like the way America like to call itself world champions Belgium and Switzerland and even bits of France because we know what the French can be like at times they go we are chocolatiers and that makes them better than anyone else they think it's not but they do have decent chocolate don't get me wrong very nice especially bought on boats very nice but there you go sadly the caveato cabrie's is actually owned by America no we know but it's it's craft food just to destroy your illusion they eat their own New England pizza they do rob a craft I just think cheese slices time as well how many cheese slices do you think you can eat? three three I couldn't eat any cheese cos it's just that texture that has to melt I like I like spicy cheese anyway that's the kind of cheese bit of spice no what it is Dave no what it is it's cos of Epcot if you ever if you ever wave food and wine festival brochure he goes weak at the knees you see a different side of him I've never experienced him in Epcot but I'd love to see that I always feel like you bounce around on your like Fred Flintstones when he was bowling that would be you in Epcot just the problem on your twinkle top country to country the minute I get into Epcot what's your favourite country in Epcot? China I think would you ever go to China to see how they liked I don't know I like Japan as well Japan is amazing I go to Japan what's so good about Japan in Epcot? the drumming in Japan is incredible the drumming the tremendous it's great which one do you say is the most disappointing country for you? in Epcot, England but they have like Mary Poppins and then now they have the Beatles but they have the Beatles now they have like the British invasion maybe there's a copyright thing going on possibly that's great times I'm going all misty-eyed I was going to say to get back to Epcot next year I'm going back back I was thinking on the randomness now all is Mike Dean this has been all focus absolutely everything focus but you know Mike Dean obviously came on there's been a big thing over VAR and one thing we're not going to go into the Mike Dean stuff he's a he's a person of interest to a lot of people at the moment but I was thinking about this if you could have VAR in your life for things what would you choose so I'm thinking like you know in ours so like say might be something Zach said and then he denies it or there's a conversation with your missus or whatever and you think I'm gone I'd love the opportunity to go to VAR to see if that was said like at the aisle in your room get it play back have a look who's made the the offence so if it isn't for that what would you like in your life for VAR to be used I think we need a name for that I mean you could get I've got like a camera in one of my rooms in the front room it would have to be wired up to you so I could go to you so can I go to you and go like that and you'd see what my dog's doing no no to you for to give me VAR would you act like a Mike Dean in the VAR completely light here allegedly well he said it there's one thing definitely in my house where there's only two of us who live in it is when things just mysteriously go missing and one of the people says I never moved it and you know you never moved it so unless the dog went and put it somewhere it would change up somewhere and you're like why did you move that and it's like I never moved that yeah that's what I wanted that decision to see how it was moved there's a lot of like there's a lot of random things getting picked up in my house and moved without thinking so I think for that I mean it might be the greatest dance in the world but that's good that's a life issue you know VAR will come in handy there Dave have you got any insight onto this well we're all kind of saying the same thing aren't we and so much as you know we're using VAR in the same way that it's used in football to actually prove a situation which is not clear and cut and dry clear and obvious maybe clear and obvious what you're both saying is that you know there are things that happen that you don't fully or wholly believe the story that you're hearing from somebody else in your household and if we're going to go down that route then yeah you know my 16 year old daughter lives with me and that's joyous at times and certainly there are certain things when I kind of go why is that there or who put that there or who didn't put that there or whatever and then she'll say one thing and I'm thinking oh no I know what the answer is but I can't prove it and maybe this is where this kind of technology would come in so I think we're all sort of saying the same thing and so much as it's just proved for something whereby right but by other people in our lives we're perhaps told at times that we're wrong I'd like it as well I mean it'd be interesting to see like on the roads when they know her car pulls and there's a bit of a thing you could stop and get out and go to VAR to see you pulled I think that'd be dead interesting just getting out your car giving it the old VAR thing going to Stockley park or other places are available and some fella just plays it back and goes blue cars pulled out there you are the person of course the infringement therefore you all the appall I think it'd be interesting to be a big brother of that though innit it is a little bit I get listen I didn't say it was perfect I'm just saying you know it's an old one it's an old one what a guy he was by the way the Craig did you get into big brother Dave when he first come on and the Craig was on it this week I am nominating so he said this week I am nominating Sharda and Calleran called the Calleran as if she had invented gas fires and just put an iron on the end of it but what did you make of the original big brother Dave I think the original big brother for me was far and away the best one and to an extent it went downhill after that but the reason why it was the best one was because of the fact that it was new to them as well as it was new to us so they were kind of exploring and enjoying the social experiment themselves and I think what I'm trying to say is that once it got to big episodes series 3, 4, 5 it then became full of people who would just want to be famous and people who would just thought well I'm just going to be as outrageous as I can because that's what's going to get me on here I'm going to be the extreme this or the extreme that and it just it was a different there was a different motivation behind people's participation and I think the first one was good and Craig Philips is a lovely fella oh yeah I mean me we've seen him oh no I've seen him sorry I've seen him in being you buying plastic but that's what he did busman's holiday I mean that first one when I think series 2 was brilliant Brian Darling it was a brilliant season but the first the mad thing about the first one is obviously like you've just said they didn't really know what they were walking into they went into this place and no one even knew where it was it's sand of mad they had all things they done all mad stuff like naked paint and everything and that would like paint with the body and all this kind of bizarre things but you're also had obviously nasty nick which was incredible I mean that was the thing that one Craig Philips big brother in a sense because a lot of people didn't actually like him in fact he got voted he was like nominated most weeks by different people and then when he you know when he got nasty nick and sat him across a very small kitchen table and said you've been cheating basically by telling people what to vote and telling people who to nominate and all of that you know and then you had Nick going in the diary room and I've made a mistake and all of that kind of stuff you know nasty nick biting still remember his name and it was 20 odd years ago 23 years ago that's the scary thing it's just actually celebrating his anniversary so it was incredible and when he'd go each week he'd walk outside and wave to the family in the first one because the family were literally 10 foot away and then obviously it got bigger and bigger and they had to like remove them all and you'd write by like one of the girls like to like go and squat on this wine bottle and things like that she did in the garden kinga you know and it's like you're looking to be absolutely outrageous now not just any of it yet so it did get a bit mad I'll be honest I ate it funny but did you ever watch the face I understand as it got on because it created a form of television that was very very cheap and for a while it took over completely and it ruined all of the TV because I love my TV everybody knows that and it cheapened it and it made it instead of going out and making quality TV shows you just made crap after crap after crap after crap dead cheap fly on the wall rubbish and then you're absolutely both right everyone starts playing up to it so the face that's why the first couple were all like I'll give you the second series well made even the third once you got to four and five you know when you see all the audition tapes and you see them coming out on that catwalk that's why I worry for something like the traitors which was brilliant by the way I worry for something like that because I mean I haven't really I know there's other versions of it in Australia but I fear for the second one everyone's then I want to be the one who becomes the star out of this or I want to be the clever one I don't like in the traitors like even in the first episode it was a massive shock and then it came back later and would it be able to get away with things like that but it might change it might me yeah it might do and I hope they do but it's become like cheap and nasty telly and I hate that what you got you know you're right the face and seasons were really like well I loved it to be honest with you I really liked it it wasn't terrible for about 4 you'd start watching it because it becomes a habit then and you'd watch it in the night every night and after a bit then it extended it so it went on longer than it needed to be and then I remember the last season on Channel 4 was really good because what they did was they obviously had people but they brought other people back from other seasons and they messed with it it was funny like bitter it was funny then I was like Channel 5 will buy this and it's never got nothing and it did and I've never watched it since ever and it did change because the people did realise what they were getting into and once the kittens push back it's very difficult to recreate it again but then you get social media but you had it with X Factor X Factor at the start was alright and then a few seasons in you started having them and I always remember this was the moment when one direction was put together it was so obviously set up every choice and it had been better it had just gone we're going to create a boy band out of these 5 lads and these are the ones we've picked there was all this scene with Jay Malik where he wouldn't dance so he went out and there was like 30 lads and as if you would be looking Simon Cowell was like oh where's the other lad and then he went off to speak to it was just nonsense and it was like this is shite now and you'd write they have like a little window don't they where they're really good and then you've got to end it and I think hopefully the traitors they'll have a couple of seasons and they might go without it now but I hope it will be interesting because that was really good it was really good let's leave it there then because we know that Dave's very busy man so this is once again being very random there was no plan to talk about big brother or the traitors or your love of cheese in there my love of cheese and wine festival food and wine festival or mexicana beautiful if you haven't tried it, mexicana cheese with the chilies some bell peppers in there very nice go on Dave go on clang clang anyway she was into being Steven Gerard for something clang to shoehorn in some questions one of them was Steven what's your favourite cheese at which he famously replied melted cheese that was his answer well to be fair if that is fair to you now look at him exactly one a couple of games they got me last night 30 fair play thanks Dave for those lovely little tidbits nice one make sure you subscribe give this if you're listening on things like Spotify give it 5 stars why wouldn't you take it easy see you later


In the previous section, we talked about logic as a set of well-defined rules at the heart of critical thinking. In this section, we will expand upon this to talk about the full process of reasoning. Whereas logic refers simply to the instructions and interrelationship between things. Reasoning refers to the full process we go through in amassing information, assessing it, interpreting it, and generating knowledge. One of the main themes throughout this section will be that of subjectivity and objectivity in our reasoning. As we've mentioned before, the central aim of critical thinking is objective knowledge. We're trying to derive knowledge that is based upon some universal set of principles and not just the opinion of some specific individual or groups. Thus it is important for us to make the distinction between subjective and objective knowledge, which is a somewhat subtle distinction and not always an easy one to make. In this section, we'll talk about what we call the standards of reasoning. It is these standards that help us to attain some form of objectivity in our thinking. As a corollary to this, we'll talk about motivated reasoning that leads to subjective interpretations.


Let's keep it up. This stream is going good. I'm not even tired boys I'm RPG in the buildings you just keep doing what you're doing. Oh, this is a dog. Oh Shit, we gotta go. Oh, I didn't even notice that Oh, I'm getting shelled dude. Oh, I'm that dude. I'm so I'm ripped by an RPG How did we not notice that? So fun It was a dog doobie LLLLL thank you so much. Will you be my daddy?  I hate myself. Hello, and then rip these push-ups with me ready Hey down up one down up two down up three down four down five. That's ten.  How's this? I'll do one more. I'll do one more.  It's me. It's not gonna be back in time makes it be back in time No, he read it. I would expect him to make it.  Okay Understand you feel me. Do you know when you could play? No, I don't he's really busy all the time So yeah pop pop me. Sorry, but I'm always beating my meat.  You look deprived. How are we doing chat?  Do it. Who's my favorite porn? Guys, this is a serious scammer chat. Let's talk about this Everybody go to the house and loot and we're all getting bun-a-kid.  You're not invited Hey, he's getting turned Yes, see everybody dies team. Hey everybody come on Everybody get in the dungeon. We're all gonna suicide together as brethren.  Oh, no This dude jumped in the air and I picked them off in mid-air Nice work.  Oh, that's it That was too easy. I was just chillin Smell oh, that's too easy guys. I just pissed. Oh, it's a beautiful piss.  Y'all need anything. Um Turn out some media cleaf before me my guy. Look at that cheese wheel boys. Where they look at his cheese wheel boys Cross here you go in a sock. What's that? I'm gonna get a frickin 360 no scope Shker He's in the maze somewhere. Oh, that's a hit mark.    All right, everyone dial in we're winning this game I'm calling it right now, but listen up chat. I will give each of you ten dollars if I don't win this game We're gonna win this game.  I'm not worried about anybody because I know I'm gonna win So I'm not why would I be worried about paying out gotta get your bananas and boys Every time you eat a banana you got deep-throat it wait. No, I didn't say that wait. I'll take that back. Wait. Oh You you know what I meant by the $10 thing right like I meant this game I think this game that I'm about to play you didn't yeah guys You didn't think I meant that game. Did you? Oh? That was okay.  I'm at this game actually you know what chat this is a bad Even if I win I don't get anything right so once I win this game. What do you guys do for me?  Wow How to become six foot five for real Yeah, I see him I see him. Oh, he's he's moving up. I got it.  They're all saying L.  There you go.  I took two damage. Are you kidding me? Dude the game is over. I'm going to lose now. I am never been more mad 24 another 24. He's you guys. Yeah, I see him. I'm coming. I'm coming. I'm coming Um, I'm launchpadding to you. I'm a little too far. It's an early use of it. Oh, what? That's the game. Where's the other dude? Let's go That is the first of many duo wins today. Oh, oh guy up there guy up there two guys up there. They're peeking me Where?  Oh, he's right in front of me knocked one in the air. Oh, yeah Yeah, I see one one's down here with me. Just hit a 33 on him.   Why are you commenting L?  This is such a bad time Oh no Please hold No No No Oh my god This is the worst time Did you find him? Sorry, I had to do that. Did you find him?  Yeah Yeah, that's why I know I I'm going on him.  No, don't reload. I want to hit or justice. No, it didn't let me hit it Bah bah, uh, bah bah, bah the percent the wind percentage was my wind percentage 75% Every single person who said I would get six wins in 24 hours can suck on my left Nut, we're at 10 wins right now mainly because I'm in duals. But still I have one solo win I'm a proud dad, right?  Hey everybody, you guys can just call, you guys can just call Tarn, the notebooks that you buy at Walmart for 5 cents, because I'm throwing him straight in my backpack and carrying him.  I didn't get carried, I carried him. Chat, what are you saying? Do you not remember the game? You guys must not even been watching. You guys weren't even watching. We weren't even watching the game. Aw, that's cool. These are assholes, you know that?  And you just want to sit there?  Alright chat, I hope you're ready.  You know what I'm talking about, right?  So you gotta get the crank out and go, man it's out. I'm back, sorry I had to do something. I was really worried that I was going to have to win a game by myself. Oh yeah, that would suck, right?  Okay, yeah, let's bring it up a hundred times. Oh no! You motherfucker!   This is how we lost that last game.  You better hurry up and get in the store.   He's so cute. Oh he's so cute.  I had to just take a shower, you gotta stream.  I will thirst you if it's the last thing I do.  Oh my god dude, I just stream sniped. Ninja! I just stream sniped Ninja or just design him. Oh my god. You see the uninstall button? Uninstall now you're bad. I need to lay down guys. My body's hurting. Do some kicks. Every time you hit the nut button, I'll don't know. Oh, now I can hit the nut button because I can't just do it for money. My brain. We just hit 11 hours. When are you and mom getting back together? Never. Yell cheeks, cheeks! 11-11, make a wish. I wish that this stream was over. Gentlemen, after all this time, it's finally me and you, chat. After 11 hours of grinding, of playing, of sitting here, literally playing Fortnite for 12 hours. I finally get you all to myself.  Lights are going off boys. Lights are off. Now, we get naked. Just kidding, they're back on. Everybody, put your clothes on. Everybody, put your clothes on. Everybody, get naked. They're off. Put them back on. Put them back on. I turn the lights on. Uh-uh. They're off. You better put those motherfucking clothes on. The motherfucking body because the lights are on. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Ow! Ow, I was kidding. Everyone's trying to big-ag me.  Oh my god, I just hear a stampede behind me. Uh-oh. Final stamp! Final stamp! Sorry. It's like a zombie movie. Get away! Oh my god. No! I got one. I am so scared. I'm gonna suicide. I'm just gonna suicide. Oh my god! Someone's down. That is so hard. It's zombie survival.  I will die- You guys, you guys do not know how bad I want to sleep right now. Oh, good golly gracious. Stream!


Welcome back into the original gangsters podcast. I am your co-host Scott Bernstein along with my partner in crime and co-conspirator The doctor Jimmy Bucci Lado. Hi everyone. Hey now and behind the glass. We got our Producer extraordinaire Benito Agosta, Benia Agusta. Hola. It was really the MVP of the summer of 2022. Yes This week we're going to discuss some real-time mob murder news that is a Combination of old school and new school If you've been paying attention to the news out of Las Vegas there have been bodies that have been Popping up in Lake Mead, which is the largest Reservoir in the United States It's the biggest body of water in Nevada and it's been a place That just like the desert in Las Vegas where there's been a lot of problems solved the bottom of Lake Mead Has solved a lot of problems and some of those problems were were mob related and tied into the Very bloody high-profile Off the rails Rain of Tony the Ants Bellattro who ran the Vegas underworld from the early 70s till he was murdered in 1986 and then you had a an entire movie based on on his His maniacal Run atop the rackets and in the desert the movie casino with Joe Pesci Playing a character based on spallotro. So starting in May Bodies began to emerge from Lake Mead. There's a drastic dip in water level head drop and first crisis level at this point first body was found on May 1st and The most recent body was found this week Second week of August and there are five Specific cold case mob murders that the FBI and in in Las Vegas as well as the LA Sorry the LVPD and Clark Clark County sheriffs are Doing a Kind of a drill down on going back over these missing person cases that they believed were mob hits and trying to connect these Victims to potentially to the bodies that they have found so family affair greed treachery betrayal in the Chicago mafia was my book I covered the 2007 operation family secrets trial the biggest prosecution of organized crime figures mafia figures in in the Chicago area and The reason that's tied to Las Vegas is because Tony spallotro Who's the guy we'll be talking about in this episode the the mob boss of Las Vegas Joe Pesci in the movie casino? Came from Chicago and was sent to Las Vegas by the mafia dons in Chicago to look after a series of investments made by a consortium if you will of Midwest mafia families into the Las Vegas hotel and gaming industry and Spallotro had proven himself quite capable of He he was a little guy about five four But very very ferocious and very very lethal probably had two dozen bodies to his credit when he left for Las Vegas in 1971 and When he eventually was killed in 1986 Authorities were connecting, you know, maybe three dozen gangland hits and in those 15 years so so what year did he go out there went out in 71 and was killed in June of 86 So he's going out there Correct me if this if I'm wrong. He's going out there to if we're going to be more specific to protect the skim and Protect outfit Controlled casinos from other because there were other wise guys out there Like I said, it was more of like a cons was like a mob consortium Yeah, the Chicago mob was that you know the the apex of that power pyramid, but you had crime families representing Cleveland Detroit Milwaukee, Kansas City, St. Louis That were all knee-deep in Vegas gaming industry investments and Chicago being You know the the biggest family of all those families and the one with the most interests Wanted their own guy there and they had had their own guy there before a guy named Marshall Cofano Johnny shoes who Which is I guess it's somewhat ironic that they moved him out of Vegas because he was being to camera-friendly and They thought that he was too high profile high profile and they bring splotcher and to replace him and If you were if you thought that Marshall Cofano was being high profile in the 60s. Yeah, it's it's it's on a different Planet than the type of high profile behavior that splotcher was exhibiting in the 70s and 80s So you didn't really solve the problem and actually in actuality you made the problem a lot worse And Ben have you you've seen Casino, right? Of course. Yeah, so when I I mean when I we talked about protecting the skim I know it's one of Scott me and Scott's favorite scenes But the reason I have to protect the skim is because the guys on the inside who are running the skim will skim from right the mafia When they say in the movie they look you can't expect if you're I think I don't remember was the voiceover by Pesci or If it was the the guy that they were holding responsible They said you can't expect the higher guys to steal for you for you and not not expect them to steal from you Right, right. So yeah, keep an eye on the guys were yeah, and then the mafia guy says are you telling me that?  I want my money Yeah, so he the I think it's I think he says you mean the money we're stealing they're stealing from us, right? So that I mean I Imagine I mean I've read your book But it was a while ago and I read Casino to from Pledge a long time ago, but I Imagine that was one of the main reasons to go out there was to keep an eye on the skim Well, that was the biggest racket of them all yeah was the fact that they had easy and total access To about a half dozen casinos Countrooms right in the count room is just what it sounds like it was a giant room without any windows where all the cash From the previous, you know four or five hours of gambling activity were were were funneled into and then counted and taken to a bank or a vault and When the mob had Unfettered access so they were just in there grabbing with both hands right every day So then spelotro goes out there and he realizes All we're doing is the skim like I can come out here. Yeah, I can sell drugs. I can loan shark I could get into you know theft I can run back door casinos for people that for people that don't want to go to the real Casinos will give them better eyes and we can be the loan sharks they go to when they need money Right, so he realizes there there's a lot of money to be made there that they're not on the street on the streets That they're not even capitalizing. I have nothing to do with what's going on in the casinos right and this was part of the the Insubordinate behavior or when it started And when I mean he started to go off the rails really quickly and and he had a 15-year run So I mean it shows you how What a three-winged circus that that his his regime was in Vegas And then you add in the fact and this is a a part of the story that I don't feel like has gotten anywhere near The level of chatter that it that it needs to to put everything in context. It's referenced in casino, but it throwing the the word cocaine and the fact that cocaine was booming around the country in the late 70s early 80s and Spelotro and everyone around spelotro were indulging and these weren't young guys these were guys in you know in their 40s and 50s and 60s and spelotro got I don't know if it was a full-fledged addiction, but a lot of what spelotro was doing was Was being Guided and in my mind in my research by the fact that he was stoned a big chunk of the time and and when you're a lunatic and You start doing cocaine you become more of a lunatic. So he was making bad decisions. Yeah, largely or at least Part of it was just how he was wired But but part of it was probably substance right and then you saw also in the movie and then let me Make very clear that I Can sit here and Jimmy and I can sit here and we could critique Marty Scorsese for what he did in the Irishman, but in terms of taking creative license and veering off from Reality to almost straight fiction good fellas in casino were the opposite of that they stuck mostly to what really happened and What you saw in casino the behavior that Joe Pesci was portraying Might not have really even been doing it justice and you had a situation where Joe Pesci's character in the movie Nikki Santoro in real life Tony spelotro starts sleeping with the wife of a very valuable Mob associate that was the inside guy In the movie. He's called ace rosting in real life. He was lefty Rosenthal He was running the inside for the mob. He's I mean it was probably the most important Cog in that entire wheel because he was the boots on the ground the day-to-day overseer of all of that from the inside and spelotro it was the guy that he was friends with from there when they were kids and they have some giant pissing contest that ends up with spelotro trying to show Rosenthal who's really boss and he and he starts sleeping with his wife and and wasn't very quiet about it and That didn't go over well with the especially the old-timers. Yeah in back in Chicago.   Don't make a fool out of me. That's that's one of the best I find out to your game and I'll leave you where I find you I you know actually like I think that good fellas is a better movie But in terms of scenes that I like to recall and rewatch and that make me like amuse me Casino has I think has more like memorable if that makes sense and it's totality I think good fellas is better, but but like in terms of like those kinds of like scenes What kind of man are you?  There's another funny. Don't be a Again, that's another that was not diamond that wasn't exaggerated that wasn't You know created for the sake of the film All of those relationships the way they were portrayed were very accurate the in the movie Her name was ginger in real life. It was Jerry She was this You know Vegas Casino hustler slash high high-end escort that Had a Childhood boyfriend that that kind of shadowed her the rest of her life while she was out there Hustling and and you know on the move she would always kind of take care of this guy his name wasn't Lester diamond It was a similar name And he tried and just like in the movie this guy when when she gets her hooks into The Chicago mob and Rosenthal and splotch or this guy comes in and tries to leech off it Yeah, he's lucky didn't eat these lucky didn't tell you not to do it right now Fuck I'm taking for everything and then excuse me. Aren't you the or what do they correct me if I'm wrong? Aren't you the card shark? And then and then when James would just walk it away.  So it's a really I mean, that's a great movie It's it's a really interesting, you know period to research a lot of colorful characters But I mean it's obvious that he was a violent dude. So if these bodies are Emerging in Lake Mead, it's a drought crisis level. So I mean, how are they finding these bodies?   I mean, I'm not really They're beached but encased in mud. Okay You know, the first body was found Encased in a barrel The second body was found with two bullet holes in the back of the skull The last two that have been found in the last 10 days were found off of a swimming pier At a place within Lake Mead called Hemingway Harbor I think this is also a way for us to kind of draw to draw a through line from what's happening in 2022 and These bodies emerging and then back to the film and some of the characters that you saw in the movie Are now playing a role in this modern-day narrative specifically when it comes to the skim so one of the first if not the first name that started to be circulated as one of these The owner of These sets of remains that have been found is a guy named or was a guy named Jay Vandermark Who was the Chicago mobs? skim captain In the movie they changed his his name to John Nance But he he has a couple pretty big scenes in the movie He was the one that was we were recounting the the scene where they're talking about the people that are stealing in the Count room. He's the guy that's explaining it to the mob guys. He's the one that says it's called leakage Yeah, how does he get killed in the movie? I don't remember so in the movie They show you that and this was a little bit of dramatic license. They show you that he took off after The casino was raided now that part's true Casino is Rated the five casinos that were underneath the Chicago mob banner were raided in the summer of 1976 and Within a couple weeks you had two members of the splotter crew Show up missing one of them being Jay Vandermark who was the person that was in charge of the skim and who the FBI was looking to interview and he had left town the day that the the the raid had happened So in the movie they show you some unnamed hit man Track him down in Costa Rica. Oh, right. They shoot them in the pool. Yeah. Oh, that's that's Nancy. Okay That's not what really happened in reality. He vanished And then they took another situation that happened Where someone got killed in their pool and they just they just put him together I see so I got pulled in this the guy that got killed in his pool was a guy named Jerry Lisner Listener who had nothing to do with any of this and I'm assuming they thought that this guy was going to Snitch. Yeah, so they thought that Vandermark was gonna Give them up and then they also referenced this in the movie. They say that John Nance took off for Costa Rica and You know, this is like Joe Pesci narrating it and we thought that he was gonna Because his kid was all strung out on drugs to save his kid He's gonna give us all up and and him and his kid are gonna disappear into when it's protection and in that played a role in some of the Mindset in and wanting to get rid of Vandermark and then Vandermark's son Jeff who was a drug Addled ended up being killed in the months after that and that wasn't a missing person He they found him in in his apartment in Las Vegas, and he was a drug dealer drug dealer drug addicts both But Vandermark just disappeared he left Las Vegas he was last seen in Arizona hanging out with So we should let people know that when splotcher got sent out to Las Vegas in 1971 Not only did he he see this kind of new frontier with you know, they've only been worried about the inside all these years I'm gonna start worrying about the outside. He also got ambitious and said well Why why do I why do I have to be hemmed in to Las Vegas? I can set up crews in LA and in San Diego and in Phoenix so, you know, he set up satellite operations with You know placing one of his loyalists in each one of those Cities and they're already out for guys in Phoenix. Did they did they bump heads? Splotcher seems to be not like a very delicate dramatic guy I wouldn't surprise me if some of his guys. He had his guy Pauli shiro out there. They called him Pauli the Indian Oh, yeah, and that sounds familiar. That's who Vandermark was last Seen with okay was with the the Arizona splotcher crew and he was at one of their Nightclubs or restaurants. So he clearly felt safe. It felt comfortable. He was he was running from the the cop Stensibly he was running from the cops that I think he thought that the mob was gonna help hide him and right and in reality The mob killed him. So he's he's someone that they suspect authority suspect is one of these bodies Yeah, so that was the first name that started to really get traction when people were playing the guessing game on on who Who these bodies belong to? So he vanished on August 1st 76 Fast-forward two and a half weeks August 18th another member of the splotcher crew From Chicago his name was John Panagio tacos was Greek, but he went by the I don't want to say it was a nickname. I think it was more of like a Alias he went by Johnny Pappas and Pappas had come out to Las Vegas in the early 70s started to work at a lot of the mob-owned casinos as a pit boss as a manager Ah He was also from my research heavily involved in Democratic Party politics out in Nevada between The late 60s and when he vanished in 76 And then in 74 he was given a very plumb job. They gave him control of a Ritzy teamsters funded casino and resort that actually Rested on Lake Mead. It was called the Echo Bay resort and Pappas was in charge of the Echo Bay resort and according to Law enforcement and formant files he was dabbling in quite a few illicit activities helping skin money steal money and I Don't think it's a coincidence that two guys disappeared in the weeks after the FBI raids five of the mob on casinos and So Pappas disappeared on August 18th on his way to a restaurant called Jojo's To what he he was going to a meeting where he thought he was going to be discussing selling his boat So those are two of the top candidates. So those are the two names that first surfaced Then you started to hear about a Drug dealer named William Crespo went by the nickname Billy Bahama and he was a Cuban and This now is moving into the 80s. So Both of Pappas and Vandermark disappear August of 76 this is 82 winner of 82 into 83 and Billy Crespo and this is this is a part of the story. I didn't really know although it doesn't surprise me Crespo Was a courier for skim money But unlike the other couriers that would be going back and forth between Las Vegas and the Midwest and dropping money off in Milwaukee Kansas City Detroit Cleveland, Chicago There were other couriers that were going south and Investing skim money into drug deals So Crespo wait a minute, sorry to interrupt They're freelancing like skimming from the skim or they're doing this on behalf of connected guys I can't speak to that because we know I mean mafia guys This goes back to something we've talked about a lot that the so-called prohibition on drugs We know and that might come from the top But we know that individual made guys put money on the streets, right? And so I'm just financing right drug deals See again, I don't know I never heard of Billy Crespo before a couple months ago I didn't know anything about casino skim money being sent down to Miami and Put into the cocaine market And in some ways, I think they were washing the money and bringing it Back cleaner. I don't know exactly how But well, there's sure a lot of real estate. Yeah, there was a real estate boom at that time because of all the cocaine money so Crespo Was back and forth between Miami Chicago Vegas it was kind of going like on a regular basis was taking the trip between all three of those cities and He got I think it was holidays 1982 in between in between Thanksgiving and Christmas and he got Nailed coming on a plank. Excuse me. He got nailed coming on a plane from Miami to McCarran Airport, which is the airport in Las Vegas and they caught him With drug drugs and cash I think it was about fifty thousand dollars and Some kilos of cocaine and They think so this could be gangland related but not necessarily outfit Well, you know The police and and feds tie Crespo Displodra. Okay Now none again, we don't know We don't know, you know particulars on any of you know, yeah, we have a lot of speculation a lot of innuendo a lot of educated guesses but Do we don't have bodies or we might be able to they're not connected yet, but we matched it right so There's a lot of conjecture so Crespo flips and agrees to Give the feds information on money laundering and Teamster Pension fund fraud. Oh, oh, he did agree like that's known. Okay, and he was about to testify in a case against some mobbed-up casino execs in The summer of 83 and he disappeared a couple weeks before that and then the case fell apart I wonder what happened. I wonder if he I mean he should have been Protected at that point.   I want to play they want to play both sides of the fence Yeah, you want to be on the outside right and pretending that they're still a gangster as clean as a whistle Yeah, but in reality they're they're meeting and and planning and Coordinating with the government. Yeah a cooperate and then be eventually disappear into yeah witness protection Yeah, I mean we saw that with them big pussy and the surprise remember He was sometimes he thought he was like undercover secret agent, but then sometimes he's like I kind of like being a gangster I'm just gonna keep on there's a lot of gray there The the cooperators and the deals that they're making and what they're allowed to do or they're not allowed to do I mean it reaches all the way. We've talked about it with a whitey bulger and Greg Scarpa that's the highest level of Chicanery, I mean, I don't know where you have duplicity where you have cooperators that are given a license to kill Because of the operation or because of the cooperation they're giving over years and years and and they they operate with impunity But I think there are all different layers and levels to that where you know guys that might on Paper look like they're playing for team USA Yeah, yeah, maybe they are when it's beneficial with them, but they're not when it's not beneficial Yeah, but if they're wrong people find out they'll kill them in a second Right, you know and that's why it's a tightrope act because when the government finds out that you're doing yeah We go activity after you've caught your deal. Yeah deal is thrown off the window. Yeah, unless it's corrupt But right with even though The Vecchio got acquitted. Yeah, but but theoretically right that's what just happened. So Are there any other suspects? Yeah, I mean that's suspects, but so there's five potential five Homsitions five homicide probes We just went through three the last two one. We have a name and the other the final one we don't so 1977 guy named Bobby Shaw who was a member of splatros LA Crew I guess you could say I think he was back and forth between LA and Vegas drugs burglary Collections and He He disappeared May of 77 on his way From he had gone to LA To handle some business and then stopped to see his family. I believe he was at a family dinner in Fontana California which is in San Bernardino San Bernardino San Bernardino County and Kissed his family goodbye and never made it to Vegas where he was supposed to show up the next day Well one takeaway I have from this see what you guys think I know I know where you are This episode might not be as long as some of our others But we have to wrap up soon, but all of these guys none of these guys are Italian None of these guys are made guys So when like the shit gets where the shit hits the fan if you're not a made guy You're not Italian. You're the first on the chopping block.   They'll I mean and you're done. It's a guy splotcher. Oh It's just uh, you know so Bobby teen man we can tie Bobby Shaw to or I can tie Bobby Shaw to Joey Hansen who was Spolato's LA lieutenant and Joey Hansen was very dangerous just like spolato grew up in Chicago but he wasn't Italian but gained the trust of Outfit bosses in Chicago because of the amount of alleged murders that he was involved in at a young age And that's why he was given control of LA. I think there were some Discussions early on that they didn't want a non-Italian as a crew boss out there and Spolato got that Taking care of and smoothed over and Joey Hansen was this guy out there Bobby Shaw used to run with Joey Hansen Hansen Was also a character in the movie casino, but they changed his name to Jack Hardy but that the Jack Hardy character was supposed to be Joey Hansen and Hansen was a suspect in a Massacre that took place like two months after Bobby Shaw disappeared in Chicago. It was a Bookie office in Park Ridge, Illinois where four bookies got Killed execution style. That sounds like that's the kind of sounded like did the episode from this was 77 in Chicago. Yeah, we're talking about an instance in Detroit in 85 right where they killed three guys Yeah, bookies and one guy that just happened to be there to collect bets and the wrong place at the wrong time this was four bookies that Either were stealing from the Chicago mob or talking about going off on their own But Joey Hansen's considered to When he when Joey Hansen died of cancer, I believe in 03. He was still considered the top suspect in that Park Ridge Massacre and again in the timeline of this Bobby Shaw disappeared like seven weeks Before that. Well, it's it's believable to me that they would make that decision for him in LA Just like lefty Rosenthal in Vegas. The outfit is a lot traditionally a lot less uptight And the Detroit to a lot less uptight about like New York to me It's unimaginable that they would put a non-Italian in that in that level of the hierarchy And they had a Greek and San Diego Chris Petty. Yeah, right. So to me that that seems like Standard operating procedure for the outfit and they were sending part of the Outside rackets if you will in Las Vegas drugs gambling extortion prostitution burglary and the Chicago mob has always been a Group that's been heavy heavy in in the burglary rackets more so than I think any other crime. Yeah, I think so too and They would burglarize these High rollers their places not just their residents Not not just residential neighborhoods, but they would get tip-offs to Where they were staying in hotels and get access to those hotel rooms and they go into the same anyway They needed places to fence These these stolen goods. Yeah, and they needed places that weren't in Nevada So these these Arizona crew the Arizona crew and the law and the Los Angeles crew were very Integral to those Fencing operations and you can see here how that would get splotcher on trouble with some of the higher-ups in Chicago Because obviously they're crooks and they want to make money too They want the high their main Objectives the skim and they need high rollers and affluent people to feel comfortable When they're Las Vegas and if those people aren't comfortable because they're getting burglarized and there's a street violence You know drug dealing and shootings and things like that. That's not good for the I think the long-term Game, which is the skim. I think that the number that I'm remembering is before 1971 I think the previous Don't quote me on this but this anecdote is 99% true I think in the previous ten years or maybe it been the previous 20 years there have been five murders in Las Vegas and in the first three years of Splotcher Yeah, yeah You like tripled quadrupled the amount of hits and a very Short period of time and the point being that He announced his presence Authority to use a line from from bull Durham You know he showed up in town and he blew the doors off their hinges and I think it was The Chicago bosses at first were like, oh, you know He's he's feeling himself out there and we'll let him, you know get his footing and you know, I don't think I Think they got a kick out of it to some degree at first Even though to annoy them. It's like, oh, that's just Tony being Tony and then the axe started to wear thin really fast. Yeah, and He wasn't sharing the money that he was making from all these outside rackets with the guys he was supposed to be sharing it with right and By they don't want him to be doing it in the first place, but if he's gonna do it, you better And then you had a situation, you know, he's sleeping with lefty Rosenthal's wife Which bothered everybody and it's so it's shown in them in the movie but he didn't They make it seem like in the movie that Lefty Rosenthal or ace Rostin is blown up and then immediately Pilatro was killed Right, but there was four it was four years Pilatro lasted for four years after the the the car bombing attack on Rosenthal and the whole Rosenthal Pilatro Rosenthal wife love triangle So that was another four years and I think within those four years my point is that didn't get him killed right what got him killed at the end of the day was a deluge of Racketeering indictments that came down against all the biggest bosses in the Midwest that everybody pointed the finger directly at Pilatro for like all this heat that you've been bringing on us for 15 years has now Come to a head and we're all looking at dying behind bars Yeah, and This was alluded to in the movie, but I think I don't think it was emphasized enough. Just like I don't think the drugs were emphasized enough He had every intention and by 1985 86 Pilatro had every intention of killing his way to the top of the outfit he wanted to get to rally loyalists and go knock off Joe Ferriola Sam Carlesi Johnny DeFranco and Put his own people in Chicago and run everything from Vegas Even though he was only soldier at that right, I mean he he practically was But not officially even though he he sort of had that same status Yeah, and what does he say in casino like they think they're gonna want to go to war What are you talking to Frankie say?  Yeah, then he says he's like something he's like he's like did I say go now He's like yeah jigs and Tony guerrillas as if it's truly you're screwed they get a earn with the prick Yeah, of course So and Me being such a nerd and I have no idea if this is true, but there was a guy named Johnny apes So I think when they said Tony in my mind when the character Frank Marino says Tony guerrilla I think they just changed the name and they were actually it was actually a line about the real-life Chicago mobster Johnny apes Yeah, who was also kind of keeping tabs on Splotch and so splotch Thinks that he's going to a making ceremony for his brother and he thinks he's being promoted to couple regime But and we we've talked to other people though on and off the record Don't they think that he that he's still part of him suspected that this Could go wrong. No, they did they I think he wasn't naive about right? He thought that that this could this could go bad. Let's back up for one second. That makes sense before we talk about his murder Let's talk about the last Cold case homicide or missing persons that they're looking into yeah related to something that really had nothing to do with mob activity It had to do with a cocktail waitress spilling a drink on splotch row or one of splotch rows entourage and splotch row cursing her I guess he called her a cunt and Two days later she vanished Wow, there are people that Swear to the FBI that splotch got rid of her. There's no proof There's no like so they know the gender on one of one of those bodies is female that they found like me Or they haven't I they haven't I did but She I guess she she disappeared two days later and it was it was covered in the in the news It wasn't like yeah, you know a blip on the radar or a small little blurb At the end of the the last page of the paper to people I talked to this was like front page story We're still trying to track down who what her name was well He strikes me as a rogue enough person that it's some it seems plausible It took it took place at jubilation which I mean for most people might not care about this, but I'm I'm such a nerd Again trying to figure out if Tony girl. I was Johnny apes. It's it's so innocuous. It doesn't matter But jubilation for someone who I love pop culture and history and your jubilation was the studio 54 of The West Coast or at least of Las Vegas in the late 70s early 80s at the peak of the disco Trend and and the night clubbing Saturday night fever era Jubilation was the hottest spot to go in Las Vegas You know all the celebrities all of the high rollers all of the mob guys Would be every night at jubilation and it was right off the strip at Harmon Avenue, and it was actually Partially owned by Paul Enka Doesn't really resonate with people Not gangster at all Was like a crooner. It's like easy listening. Yeah, like the 60s. Yeah, and I guess he was in the midst of some type of comeback and People forget that jubilation was a Paul Enka Supported entity or whatever people just talk about jubilation means this this really hot spot nightclub, but it's kind of funny to again, it's hot spot and you don't think of Paul Enka as the you know, it's not like I'm telling you oh in 1979 David Lee Ross opened up Jubilation in Vegas. Yeah. Oh David Lee Ross leads here of Van Halen. That makes sense. Yeah Well pulling I mean at the time for like probably people who were in their 40s 50s 60s He he would have he would have been a bigger deal You know So, yeah, so that's one that that's where that took place There is a scene or two in in a casino where they're at a club and the club is supposed to be jubilation But uh, so yeah spolatro And his brother were called back to chicago June 1986 And they're told that uh Michael his younger brother and protégé Was going to be inducted into the outfit and that spolatro himself was being upped to capo regime and uh They were lord to a a residence in Bensonville, which is uh south right like it's like the first Suburb you hit going south of the chicago proper it actually actually might be a part of chicago. I'm not positive um And and he was They were both killed just like you saw in the movie except it didn't take place in a cornfield It happened in a basement and they were beaten strangled stopped to death and tony was Forced to watch his little brother Be murdered in front of him and tony also according to A future witness that was there Asked his killers if he could he could say hell mary say a prayer and they said no We're rejecting that uh that motion and another interesting aspect of it was He had made so he had made so many people so angry that You know normally a mob hit gets um ordered or green lit The guy that's ordering the mob hit is not going to be present at the mob hit let alone other uh administrators in that organization But uh with spolatro you had the entire Sitting admin of the chicago mob That wanted to be there to watch spolato be murdered So it acted it kind of twofold so spolato gets to the house And he sees all the bosses there So he immediately lowers his guard because he's like well, they're not going to kill me in front of all the bosses They're not going to right get their hands dirty like that, but they did and I think to your point About what they knew or they didn't know I think a lot of people have a lot of people have asked me this over the years um If you know if you if you know you're going somewhere where you could be killed Why did you go? And I and I said, I don't think you understand The life. I don't think you understand the code. Yeah, um spolatro knew there was a very good chance that he wasn't coming back from that meeting and he This is the life I've chosen and if this is how I got to go out this I'm going to go out Yeah, he wasn't going to go on the lamb you get sent for he walking Right You know, you don't walk. What does he say lefty right and it's your best friend who doesn't that's from oh I thought that was from uh godi No, I think it was uh, I think it's donnie braskin when he's like yeah, you get sent for right Yeah, he walking, you know, you don't walk out and it's your best friend who doesn't so I think are we ready? I think we're up against the women here. I think someone else has to get in the studio we're going to wrap it up, but so We'll keep you updated, you know what we're hearing from some of the Experts in in las vegas and I'm not talking about mob experts. I'm talking about, you know experts in in regards to to nature and and geology and and water levels Um, they're saying that they expect there could be another Couple dozen bodies that emerge in the next year that the the water level is going to keep dropping It's going to drop another possibly three to four feet And um, you're just going to keep on finding bodies the the one thing that I heard recently from a guy that was representing the The like for the I don't what you call it the state forest and nature preserved from nevada. He was just like Like dnr kind of yeah, he was saying this is the tip. He's like be prepared las vegas This is the tip of the iceberg or whatever you haven't seen any department of interior Whatever he's saying that like these first five you haven't seen anything yet. You're going to keep on finding bodies As the water level keeps dropping. So this is a this is a ongoing story real time Again blending old and new Uh, we'll keep you updated if there's any more um Names that that emerge as potential victims Again splotcher has been dead for you know since 86 I don't know if there are any Really people alive that you could eventually charge for any of these is just I think I doubt it, you know putting putting the um Putting those cases to bed and and having the families Finally have some closure. Last thing I'll say is that there is a family out there that has nothing to do with the mob and they're they're relative that they suspect could be one of these Bodies or sets of remains had nothing to do with the mob, but uh, it's a long time las vegas family whose dad or grandpa died in a Bolivian accident or should I die that disappeared disappeared in a bolivian accident in the 50s That same thing can have us. I mean that that can happen That's very very plausible that some of these are not gain right So if we have if at the end of the day a year from now, we have 30 bodies I don't think all 30 bodies are going to be tied to ganglion activity, but I think there's a good chance that Uh a percentage of them a nice chunk of them will yeah All right. Well, thanks for listening everyone. Please follow us on social media Uh twitter instagram facebook follow our new video channel on youtube and uh, i'm jimmy butchilado Scott Bernstein and ben In the house. Thanks for listening. See you guys next time


A lot of people wanted to make the comparison Jeter and MJ, you know, some people were tweeting about it.  Jeter's also charismatic, like he could drop a joke and be a little sassy in his interview, especially when Kim Jones and him really got like a rapport. She really brought out like a humorous side of Jeter I thought in his post game interviews. But what do you see any similarities? Do you think Jeter led in that way? Was he tough on his teammates or was it just lead by example and try to keep up? I'll give you my answer in a second, but I'm going to tell you that I interviewed Mattingly a couple of weeks ago. Mattingly obviously saw a little of Jeter in 95, then as a coach, obviously saw him again. Now works for him with the Marlins. Mattingly is a big Jordan fan and Mattingly in his own way was Jordan-esque in New York for a while. He talked about how he understood in the last dance where Jordan was, I'm just staying in my hotel room because I can't go out. Mattingly said that Jeter reminded him of Jordan, that he saw a lot of similarities. And I think John Boyd that you just hit on some of those similarities. I think the single mindedness, I think the focus, I think the get the heck out of my way we're winning this game. I think where there was a difference is that Jeter's leadership style from what I observed and have heard from teammates was more lead by example.  He got in David Wells' face once after Wells kind of threw his hands up in the air when a ball fell between a few fielders. From that footage, it seemed like this was not only a daily occurrence with Jordan. This was multiple times a day. I'm going to ride you.  I don't think Jeter did that. I don't think that was a Jeter's DNA to do what we saw Jordan do over and over again. That Jordan-Bernie dynamic would have been a really interesting one. Those different ends of the spectrum there to say the least. I hadn't thought about that, but that's a very interesting call by you. Bernie did not react well when a thug like Mel Hall was trying to get him to be a certain way. But Mel Hall was doing it more out of viciousness. I think that if Michael Jordan, let's say Michael Jordan in basketball was Michael Jordan in baseball. And if he said to Bernie, you've got to get a bigger secondary lead, man. We don't need you to be cement shoes over there at first base. You ran track in Puerto Rico. You're the fastest guy in the team. Get a bigger secondary lead. I think Bernie would have reacted well with that.  Gabs from Mel Hall that Bernie didn't appreciate. And nobody should. Why should anybody appreciate that? Yeah, it's also just such a different dynamic with basketball. Like, you know, Jordan, their practices were games. And they played against each other. It's not like baseball. You you just, you know, maybe in spring training, you do live BP, but even that's a little different. But that leads it to just, you know, you can't do it. But also, Jeter never seemed like from all the stories you hear as more guys would come over, think he was overrated, not get it and then just see him his day to day and his schedule. And you hear so many players say like, Hey, once I played with him, I really, I really appreciated what he does day in and day out. I used to always tell people that when he and A-Rod were side by side, and if you look at A-Rod statistically, his numbers dwarf Jeter's numbers.  I thought A-Rod was the more talented player, but I thought Jeter was the better baseball player. And I think anybody who watches baseball and understands baseball knows exactly what I'm saying, that Jeter just had a knack for knowing what the right thing was to do instinctually and making the right play and being in the right place, flip play, i.e. But about what you said about Jordan, too, is I just think there's more of a way in basketball to lead when you get in somebody's face with 15 seconds left. He was getting the ball. How many times were the Yankees trailing by one run in the ninth thing and Jeter's not even getting it back? I just think there's a different way in basketball when you you're touching the ball on every possession, you're going to have to sort of drag guys along with you. I don't know if that exists in baseball, because of what I just said. Baseball is its own biggest bully in a way, too. Like the game is going to beat you up. You're going to go over 20, you're going to go over four in a day. If you had another guy just rubbing that in every time it happened, you'd snap. You'd snap like crazy. It's a great point. So that's crazy for all for all our analytical listeners that just heard Jeter's a better baseball player than a rod that are coming back from their heart attack. It's OK. You're going to be OK. And by the way, I would argue that. And I would have I would have a lot of evidence to support what I the point I was trying to make, but I know what you're saying. Well, yeah, I think day in, day out, Jeter did more to help his team win than a rod did because it's so many untangibles and so much like, hey, if Jeter's locked in for every single at bat, I better be locked in for every single bad. And if Jeter's backing up the throw every single time, I better do it. You know, and stuff like that really changes the whole team. It matters. I agree.


Lauren Boebert is probably one of if not the dumbest members of Congress and I say that well the way over the fact that people like Louie Gohmert exist and I know that they exist but even compared to Louie Gohmert I mean she's giving him a run for his money and This is someone who I genuinely think is stupid and you might view that as an ad hominem But I genuinely think that she has a low IQ and that she's unintelligent and if you're not convinced I mean let me to give you a couple more facts. She is a member of QAnon She actually subscribed at least at some point to the QAnon conspiracy theory on top of that She conspired with January 6 insurrectionists so this person is is very stupid and It seems like she's almost in a competition with her colleagues to be viewed Nationally as the dumbest member of Congress and I'm sure that when you ask her she thinks she's smarter than everyone else But I just got to give you a couple of examples that demonstrate how dense this person is just from lately So she tweeted about climate activist Greta Thunberg and she tries to attack Greta By saying tell me you have absolutely no idea why you're protesting without telling me you have absolutely no idea What you're protesting now? It's a really quick clip that we're gonna play But let's see if we could try to decode this very cryptic message from climate activist Greta Thunberg Nature and the planets no more exploitation no more blah blah blah If you have an issue understanding what she was saying there even without the context that says more about you than it does about her Lauren, I think it's clear that she is calling on leaders at the UN climate change conference to take action Stop using flowery words stop trying to placate climate activists and Actually do what is needed to save the planet if you don't get that that's what she's trying to say I Mean, I can't I can't help you there. Maybe This issue is just too big for your comprehension But there's another issue that she decided to weigh in on and that is the paternity leave Debate that's all of a sudden being turned into a cultural issue by the right either way she weighed in and Undoubtedly after everyone has already spoken about this tech across and Joe Rogan She came through with the dumbest take imaginable.  The guy was not working because why He was trying to figure out how to chest feed Maybe someone should tell him please so he can get back to work. Listen.  Ain't nobody got time for two and a half months of maternity leave We have a world to save here. You've got a world to save from Climate change What of course Communism that's what we're saving the world from I'd assume communism That was just embarrassing that was really embarrassing She bragged about this I'm a mother of four. I delivered one of my children in the front seat of my truck Now you'd think upon hearing that story man. That's that's really tragic Did you not have medical insurance where you're not able to make it to the hospital in time? What's what's the backstory?   Aren't you supposed to be a pro-life person by the way? I mean isn't paternity and maternity leave a pro-life policy Don't you think that if you are pro-family you would encourage parents to take the time To take care of their babies and get to know their babies.   They're flying out literally and Somebody's catching it and then they're getting right back to work That's the way it works and I love how that's their counter to pro-family policies This is the family values party, but yet their response to a policy that's extremely popular Is to counter by saying ain't nobody got time for that.   This is just the way it is.   She's she's so insufferable