All right, so according to news source, the petition challenging the victory of Bola Tenenbo of the All Progressives Congress in the February 25th presidential election was officially filed on Tuesday. Now, the Electoral Commissioner, INAG declared Mr. Tenenbo, the winner of the election, having scored a majority vote of about 8,794,726 votes and at least 25% of votes in 29 states. So, Atiku Abu Bakar of the PDP came second in the election with winning, with 6.9 plus million votes, while Mr. Peter Obe came third with about 6.1 million plus votes. Now, we're discussing the aftermath of the election and we're asking the question, should Nigerians trust the judiciary to uphold the Electoral Act 2022? And want to hear what you have to say? Remember, you can join the conversation, send us an SMS or WhatsApp to the right one, 803-4663. You can also tweet at us at Weichu, after one of the hashtag Weichu. Okay, so this conversation is a very difficult one to have, because again, if you look at the petition, I try to scan through the petition for Mr. Peter Obe is about 100 pages. There are so many prayers. The list is endless. Now I understand why they pay so much money for some of these things. It's a lot, but there were so many things that came out on those lists while I was reading it. I mean, Attico has also written his own petition as well. People never thought they would still go through with the petition because it's almost like, you know. And really, I don't want to focus on the petition itself because I don't have the expertise to be able to break it down. But what I want to talk about, or what I want us to talk about is the judicial process. Already Nigerians came out on the 25th of February and on the 18th of March to cast their votes with the belief that they were going to, everything was going to pull through, right? So all of those things happened hoping that INEC was going to leave by standards. So now that all this has happened, you know, and it seems like INEC did not uphold some of the promises that were made based on the electoral act that was amended. People are now saying, okay, we are now living our lives now in the hands of the judiciary hoping that they would, you know, do the right thing. So it's not even just about saying maybe obtaining or whatever, but let us even see that the process was truly credible, you know, like the way INEC is claiming. So what's your thought, first of all? Well, to be honest, I really don't know. You know what I was saying to you in the micro products? I think I am traumatizing the hands of God. But as many people have said to me, let's stop, let's even give God out of this thing, let's stop calling God into this situation. Like now, it is actually in the hands of the Supreme Court and let them just do the right thing. But I don't know, I'm not sure if I'm being honest with you. I am not sure that the right thing is still going to be done. I'm not sure that the proper judicial, I can't promise you that the judiciary will not be compromised yet again. I mean, if it happened with INEC, we saw it, pump and plane, it was very clear. As a matter of fact, I went back, because I went back to now go and read the electoral laws that were amended. And I'm like, but you guys, this is not what you people said. This is not what you people promised. Clearly, you people did, literally the opposite of what you guys said you were going to, what you guys were supposed to do, going by the electoral law. So if you could go against that, are you telling me now that judiciary will come back and say, oh yeah, INEC was wrong, they shouldn't have done this or they shouldn't have done that? So I don't know, I'm just here hoping and praying that really and truly justice takes its course because I'm not sure. When you read the quote, I was just smiling inside of me, the last bit of it, I said something about the judges or something like that. So I'm really just hoping that again, our judicial system is not compromised this time. Okay, so I read some part of this.  I think he went on Instagram. If I can find his post was by a law or something, right? That's his name. Okon Legos, you know, when he said that Peter would be petitions to Nimbus victory on account of US drug trafficking, indictment and others, that even the legitimacy of his candidacy says, you know, first of all, let's just start from there because based on the electoral act, anybody that has some form of criminal records or criminal, whatever, you are not supposed to contest, participate at all. So already, according to that write up, it means that that already disqualifies even the candidacy. You know, so I mean, there was something he said, he says, I won the election and I will prove it. This man knows Nigeria and trust me, he was more prepared for this route to victory than the main elections. You underestimate Peter will be at your own peril. He now says, what's Okute? Okute is called the name of Okute, I don't know what that means. But I'm just saying to you that it seems to me that Peter will be trust the legal system. Now, as you and I as Nigerians, you know, because again, maybe he trusts the legal system based on the antecedents, based on history, how he also had to go to court to get his mandate back and all of that. So do you trust the judicial system enough to say, okay, you know what, things will play out? But like I said earlier, I don't. I actually don't. And that's because, so let me bring up this story now, since we're bringing up stories. So there's this story that we found about the S.J. and the Supreme Justice. Yes, C.J. and the Chief Justice of India. Chief Justice of India, C.J. and rather, where he was said that he was found or he was seen on a wheelchair going to have a meeting with Sinubo in London. So apparently he had also left Nigeria secretly, the same way Sinubo left secretly on health basis. So now, if these kind of things are coming up already, then what is there? So according to the report, let us play 30 clearly. Now, the report said that he had gone to the UK a week ahead, you know, so that there will not be any speculations and he was on a wheelchair. And, you know, all of a sudden now the president elect is in the UK. You know, so okay, so these are all the things that when we see these things and the good thing about social media now is that anywhere you are in the world, you don't even know whether it is the hotel attendants, you know, or somebody or the air hostess that has seen you. So a lot of people are actually even on the lookout. And this is where I think that, you know, the aspirants, because, you know, we have talked about the aspirants on Monday. This is where I think that, you know, it's beyond just you going on social media and tweeting and saying everybody occupy whatever. There are different avenues to really do these checks.  You know, I mean, most of them have to go use the public, what's it called, facilities and all of those things. There's, there's every likelihood that you would find somebody will see somebody somewhere. And this is what the story that is coming out. So these are all the speculations. Well, regardless of all these things that are happening, the person filing or the people filing because it's not just Peter or B. I think it's also filing. They seem to want, they seem to have faith that the judicial system would follow through and it would, you know, produce a result, you know. Well, let's just hope actually that really actually justice is not compromised. I mean, that's that's the only thing that we can just hope for right now, because this news that I saw this evening actually bothered me a lot. If we didn't hear about this, I would probably not be saying this right now. Okay, maybe just maybe. So if this man is compromised, then what's his remaining? It doesn't matter what Peter or B's sayings as many as they may be come to say in court. It doesn't matter what articles people come to say in court. If he already knows what it is that his judgment is going to be on that day, he won't say whatever it is he wants to say, not carrying whatever evidence. Okay, now look at, we talked about it on the show before the elections, when we brought up this whole indictment about the president elect and the whole drug thing. From what's his name? David Goudain? Yes, the whole drug thing. And David actually had facts and figures. David was one that released all of those documents. We saw it. It was everywhere. What happened? Nothing. He just put everything just went and then Festus came on and said, no, if a criminal will have a number, he does not have a number.  I was going to say something though. Now, beyond let's not even take emotions, because the truth is that law does not follow emotions. What the law follows is facts and figures. The election, why I think that some level of, we should have some level of trust in the electoral process, sorry, in the judicial system. It's because if you notice that during the presidential elections, there was a lot of videos, there were loads of pictures. So they were like facts, gathering that happened amongst citizens. People were taking pictures, people were doing the videos of the polling unit and all of that. So to tell you that these things are actually effective, it's just the patience to be able to follow through that I think maybe Nigeria's might not have. But if you notice at the elections on March 18, the game was different. People were being slapped for answering for calls.  At certain polling units. I mean, people came out on social media to say, my phone was ringing and I just tried to pick it to say hello. The next thing I went blank, I said, since that's because people's were so. So now this for me, what it tells me is that, okay. No, it means that some of those things were actually effective because if that didn't happen, you would not have had the kind of aftermath and the attacks that happened at the gubernatorial elections. Because now people were not, you know, you couldn't, they were not taking chances. So you couldn't even, if you bring out your phone, I mean, there was one young man on Instagram, Charles, that said that he was at the polling unit. So he now wants to say, oh, I'm at the polling unit. I'm trying to, whatever. That's the guy at the back was saying, take out your phone before he could say a word. The person behind him gave him a death like he saw. He said he ran for his life. He had never seen this near-death experience. It's funny, but you see, it tells you that the free reign that the presidential election got away with, they couldn't allow that to happen at the gubernatorial elections. So that only gives me hope that, okay, really some of the things that transpired, you know, all those pictures and everything that we're taking, you know, maybe they are admissible in the court of law. But that one will be for the judges and the SEMs to determine. Well, you know, let's take a break, right? When we come back from the look, I would like to open our phone lines. I want to hear your thoughts about the judicial system. The Nigerians, you know, trust the judicial system. Should we, you know, bank on them that they will do their job? And you see, when we say they will do their job, people are saying that are you insinuating that it's because your own candidate did not win? That's not the job I'm saying. You know, I just want people to, for me, anything that gives everybody a plain level field, that's what I want. Give everybody fairness. So if everything is checked and it comes out that, okay, the process was truly free and fair, then we are good. So we'll take a break. We'll come back from the break. We'll open our phone lines and hear your thoughts. Stay with us. We'll be right back. All right, so, you know, I wanted to read some things that I saw about this, what you'll be needing in court, what they are asking. But you see, the truth is, it's just like the Nigerian police, if they want to walk, don't underestimate this police. You know how we complain that we don't have proper data, we don't have documentation, we don't have all of these things. If you like the documentation less, there's a word like that. If the police is looking for you, they will find you. If they want to work, they know their job.  So except, the only challenge is that they will not say, ah, mobilization, you have to mobilize us. It's all those things that get people frustrated. But if you can continue to mobilize them and you're looking for something, because I remember when we were defrauded one time, and the guys defrauded at how the police people discovered the people. It was in a different state, completely different location. So, I mean, if they really want to work, they would work. So when I saw some of the things that they said they are looking for in court, but I think we have a caller. Our first caller for the evening. Good evening. Hello, are you there, Emeka? Hello? Okay. Emeka, are you there, you're live? Yes, I'm here. Can you hear me? Okay, now I can hear you. Good evening. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah, following you people's conversation and all this while. And I just finished watching Kayama on the channel. See, the problem we have in this country is that people will be seeing the truth. And based on the little things or whatever money aspect of it that are gotten from someone else, they fail to truth by the truth. And to defend even their profession. You see, it is high time we come out of all these moments that Nigeria is doing all these things. We saw many people, even my own, including my own friend, lost his life for Lagos, from starting this process. Nobody's... Wow, did you lose Emeka? Oh, sorry. I know, right?  Your integrity. My conscience, right? And all of that. So, if... And I say to anyone, if your fight is for a better Nigeria, I leave you to your conscience.  But the truth is, in fairness, if you look at the political space right now, you can clearly differentiate those that are fighting for Nigeria and those that are fighting for their pockets. It's as simple as that. Whether they choose to admit it or they choose to deny it, it's very clear. If your fight is for a better Nigeria, it would show. You know, so I was saying that I wanted to pull out some of the things that, you know, they said they wanted admitted in court. So apart from the INEC nomination form, result sheets, sorry, I won't be mentioning all their quotes, legal. That's why I did not study law. I went to study physics. I like to just calculate one plus one, two is okay. Well, this English I don't study, certificate of return, voter's card issue to individuals. It says the nomination form. There's a part where they said they needed ballot papers used and term printed and counted in all the polling units. Somebody was asking, is it possible for them to get it? I say yes. Because guess what? If they are not able to provide it, there's problem. Because legally, you see, that's why all those papers at the polling unit that were not used, we were insisting cancel the ones that were used, you record. So because all of those things are evidences that should come out. So why do you see people going to throw ballot papers inside gutters so that water would mess it up and all of that? So I mean, you see, when you understand Nigeria, it is so clear. You know, some of these things, the reason it happens is because, you know, these are evidences. So they need to destroy those evidences. That's why you see them snatching ballot boxes and all of those things, right? Yeah. I mean, it's so sad that INEC, with all the things that we saw, at least for fairness, I would have expected that places where people were disenfranchised, they would conduct the election, whether you would like it or not, you must vote. Places where there were disruptions, you know, you would conduct the elections, right?  What? I think the caller is back. Meka, I believe. Hello? Oh, I think, okay. Yeah, I was going to say, I don't think they'll be able to produce all of this material. They will. That means you don't know law. That means you do not know law. So now, they said ballot papers, let me finish reading it for you. Ballot papers recorded, they here, ballot papers printed and counted in all polling units. Ballot papers recorded as polls at all polling units. Okay. Ballot papers recorded as unused at all polling units. Certified through copies of voter registrations, in all polling units. Letters of requests of INEC, in fact, by model accreditation system. Certified through copies of the by model accreditation system reports. Hey, you know, certificate of compliance, like so. But we time this detailing. That's how we will sit down. I can't wait, you know, I'm actually excited. See, and now this is not even talking about my candidates or someone else's candidate or something like that, you know. The thing is, I just really pray, like I want to see it happen. So whether or not Peter Albiz, then he gets his money, or article gets him, or whoever it is, you know. I really don't even care at this point. My only is, let the truth just come out. You know why? I'll answer you why it is important. Let me take, I think Emeca is back. Emeca, you're back. We can hear you. Emeca, go ahead. Yes, I'm back. Go ahead quickly. I'm so sorry, let's talk about my side. So, you know what I was about to say? I was watching the Facebook channel on each other's television just about the same minute ago. She didn't even allow me to share with you. Go ahead. I don't share with you. Okay, I want to give you a typical example of what happened. Just to conclude, a lesson in Wembley State. I called my own brother and said, Emeca, the lesson and the result have been given. Why all this so admiring and so calling? Do you know what my brother told me? Go ahead. He said, you can't disgrace them just like that. I said, you know what? This is the guy that finished school for the past three years without having a job. He said, brother, forget about that. You know that they have to read. I said, what do you mean if I have to read? What's to be the stakeholders that people will say something that is not the right thing? And because of 119, are you thinking about the stakeholders or are you thinking about your future or about you yourself? I'm not asking questions like that. Ever since you graduated, what have you been doing? Have anybody employed you or the stakeholders that you say, you know, forget about that. It's just for the while. Actually, for the while. Thank you. Sad. See, this problem is actually eating in. Like I said, this election is not so let's not even leave Eimeca out of it. The people were also a problem. I mean, we talked about this a lot before the election. Are we actually ready for this? These good governors that were all shouting about good government. We as people, are we actually ready? We see it. Can we recognize it? Can we handle it? Can we deal with it? These are the questions we need to ask. Because we actually have a very long way to go. I have a very lengthy message from Austin from Delta. Let me see. I think maybe you should take that one. While I take this one. It says in Peter Abbey's petition, he didn't claim he won the election. Neither did he allege Reagan. He only wants to be disqualified. And another election conducted. The weakest case by an opposition party. Well, if the law says that, you know, a candidate should have certain kinds of music called records before you can even participate, right? I don't think he's being fair. I'd be unfair or whatever to say. Everybody will always use what favours them. The ground that favours them to lay the petition. It's a very lengthy petition. I haven't read it. But hey, I think we have Loma from Abbey Estate. Loma, you're live. Hi, good evening. Yeah. And I want to express to you with the word to be sorry. As you're stating your job, I'm telling you, I'm afraid we don't believe to be sorry at all. But it's not a month or a year. I'm coming to Boston because see what's happening at Abbey Estate. The women are 15 weeks after in Abbey Estate. We can get those people in the judiciary.  I'm telling you, that woman is a godsend. These are the people we need in this country, in the internet, in the judiciary. For me to replace the judiciary, that type of woman, who released I make results. Who stood her ground? Who refused to collect money? I stood her ground. I'm telling you that the people we need. And we need them in the judiciary. Once you see those people in the judiciary, I'm telling you, when we start believing in women, I'm surprised we get help from women. I'm telling you, women should be proud of themselves.  God bless you. We can pray that this will be portrayed. Thank you. I really enjoyed that story. They even got an SUV for you not to have. But hey, let me tell you something. We have begged you people to give us certain kinds of things and see how things will change. Women are actually one of the best leaders you can ever find. If you have a woman leader, you are blessed. Let's take that comment. Okay, this is Austin from Delta. He says, for me, any attempt to lose hope on the judiciary, especially the Supreme Court, which is the last bus stop in search of justice, is capable of spelling doom. Otherwise, how do you reconcile a situation where litigants will disagree with Supreme Court judgment and turn around to take the law into his hands? Let us be very careful. That doesn't mean the judiciary is not being suspected for possible compromise. If you have filed your petition, keep quiet and follow to the end. If they disappoint you, leave it to God. The next level of justice, okay, that's the next level of justice you can't escape. In the past, judiciary was being held in high esteem. We had justices like Oputa, Justice Opaseki, Justice Ademola, etc. They were then seen as next to God. And they were landmark judgments to their credit. The truth is that the present judiciary is on trial, actually. Like was said on Ikrimadu's conviction, let justice be served without whose ox is God and let them not give room to any form of the trust deficit as I neck through up by failing to upload the presidential results real-time. God bless Nigeria. Thank you, Austin. So good evening, my dear beautiful sisters. What are you saying? He says, well, the elections have come and gone. Trust me, you're two beautiful ladies in the studio. I will not trust the judiciary and will never do. Millions of Nigerians know that Ashwaju and Metin would not win the election. That's an allegation. And he was declared winner due to the rigging and bribery. That's another allegation. Ashwaju has very strong influence and can bribe his way through it as another allegation. Atiku Abubakar and Peter will be not that I want them to lose but it is like they are wasting their time writing a lost battle. If I neck can favor Ashwaju, that's another allegation. I will not be surprised if the judiciary do likewise. Honestly speaking, I do not trust the judiciary because they may be bribed for the case of... for the case of... to favor Ashwaju and Metin Abubakar. You will say, I told you so. So you see, the thing is, I don't want Nigerians to believe that, okay, if this court process comes, follows through and Ashwaju and Metin Abubakar is still the president. Now means it's because his compromise, no. I need us to focus on issues. Let's stop following emotions. If I neck and the court... I neck would be brought to the court. The petition is against... So the filing, the way it is, is Peter will be Labour Party against I neck, Ashwaju and APC. So I neck is part of the problem. So they will bring in all those evidences. My own submission is if I neck is able to release all this document because the list is long that they are asking for and everything is judiciously checked and it is seen that the status quo remains. Then we should say, okay, yes. Thank God and we move on. We only are demanding for transparency. Now you asked the question and I told you I will say why it is important. The reason it is important for us to see that this process was credible, fair, free is because for the first time in the history of Nigeria, we had 18 year olds, we had 19 year olds, we had 20, they did not only come out to vote. I was so moved because they did not only stop at voting. They stayed, they counted their votes, they took pictures of their votes. We have young people that were really excited about the idea, you know, of a Peter Albi presidency and they came out in numbers to vote. What you are just trying to tell them if there is any smell of a rat that this thing wasn't transparent, it wasn't free. What you have told them is that they should take that, just like the way we saw people tearing up their card, is that they should take that PPC and throw it away because it is useless to them. And that is not the point I think INEC, because guess what? If INEC continues, you know, successfully planting distrust in the minds of the electorate, very soon they will be out of jobs because nobody will come out to vote. Do you want that as a body? No. So that's the thing is you then have to be very, very clear to not tell people that, Komo, this process that I did, you cannot discredit it because it was free and fair. And you produce your evidences, that's all we are asking for. Oh well, let's just hope that they are able to do this. I don't trust you today. No, because see, when I saw this, I was just like, see, I feel like somebody said, we are fighting in lost battle. And now I like the angle Peter is coming from.  He has not even come to fight you to say, okay, maybe they rigged or maybe they ignored it. He has gone back to the first problem that we had, that I thought was even going to be treated in the first place. That's indictment. It's truly where we should even begin from. So that we know, okay, was this person even supposed to? Eligible. In the first place. No, but his party cleared him to be eligible now. Of course his party will clear him. So let's take, let's take more comments. Somebody is sending us pictures. Okay, I'm having it. Isn't our pressure on grab it? Snatch it and run with it. That's the balloon box too. He says, should Nigerians trust the judiciary to uphold the 2022 electoral law? This is a beautiful question, but sadly to say, Nigerians should not trust the judiciary to uphold the 2022 electoral law. If by now the judiciary has not prosecuted anyone for violation with the violations going on right, left and center in this country. Judiciary systems like our political parties in this country very corrupt without morality. Look at Hal Fester-Skiamu, yet he always talks from two sides of his mouth. If judiciary works, they will only work just because the eyes of the world are on justice. And this is what I was actually going to say, right? I mean, I saw some tweets today from the U.S. mission in Nigeria, even the U.K. as well where they were, they are actually paying so much attention to this whole electoral process. Process now. And I like that because I feel like that would actually now make, that's actually an angle to look at it from. That will make the judiciary make sure that they do the right thing. Because it's not even just about those anymore. Because if it's about what I feel like they can just do what they want and move on with their lives. And now we have other countries that are now looking to see, okay, you guys have said, these people have filed their petitions. Are you really going to follow through what is going to be the outcome? So it would actually ginger them, or rather motivate them to be very, very fair. So like he has rightly said, I hope that they actually know that now, the entire, everybody's watching, everybody's watching. You know the good thing about this Gen Z that came out of it? You know, over there, no smiley.  They will bring everything out. They will write petitions against... No, those guys are not joking. They found Sinubu's plane now. Is it only the plane? They've been finding things. I said at my polling unit, one young boy just came and met me. Auntie, so that the polling officer, we said that they called them. He says, yeah, this is his Twitter handle. I have found it. I've got it tweeted. I was so impressed. You don't know the kind of joy... You don't know the kind of joy that I felt with this election. For me, because I've been voting. It was like a new dawn. You know, it was like a breath of fresh air. You know, I've been voting, and you could see it immediately play out in the gubernatorial elections. People didn't come out.  You don't need us to declare winners. No, that's what we are going to say to INEC. We'll say you don't need us to declare winners. So whatever you want to do, please go ahead and do it.  So, I mean, so that's why we are just hoping that this path that both and which is the legal means. If there's any discrepancies, if taking those legal means to say they want to go and go through the courts, please, for the sake of this nation, for the sake of everything that we hold as a country, let us be seen to be fair. Let us be seen to be just. Let justice prevail. What was wrong should be condemned. What was right should be upheld, or you uphold it, whatever, or should be upheld or whatever. The English is. Now, Nassabidi English. Well, so thank you so much, Nel. I think we had a fantastic conversation. And hopefully, we'll keep on following the matter. I'm getting tired of this political conversation, but we don't have a choice. We have to keep saying what we have to say. All right, so in case before we go, follow us across all our social media handles, you can interact with us, further drop a comment, and more importantly, follow all our engagements on social media, like, share and invite your families and friends to watch and follow the conversation. Now, if you missed our quote for today, I love this quote so much. It says, the bedrock of our democracy is the rule of law, and that means we have to have an independent, ah, very important judiciary judges who can make decisions independent of the political wins that are blowing. Very, very important. So regardless of the chaos happening in different political parties, let our judiciary be seen to be independent and just. We'll see you guys tomorrow at 8pm as we bring another great conversation to your stream. Enjoy.