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Yn ymwysg yng Nghymru, me, Ped ac Dave. Roedd nid o bos o ddau. We are very much Hollywood today, zero bush. It's been a lovely quiet week. Do you know what? Yeah. Some parts of it felt like no one Mary Poppins when they skip into the painting and there's the dancing with the penguins. That's how I've felt some of these days.   Jumped on America around the horse. All that was just like a dream sequence. Yeah. Not until it could possibly spoil.  That was how it felt.  We were all in a good place. We just won a crystal palace. We were chilled. Things were looking up. And then Friday happened. Yeah.  In fact, maybe, you know, you couldn't even remember the last time you felt this relaxed and carefree in a blue shirt. And then, as you say, Baz, Friday happened. I was sat exactly where I'm sat now and I was on my computer, which I'm talking to you now on my phone was on the desk and it was fine. And I think I was halfway through writing an email and my phone beeped.  And and I just suddenly it was like the hot, you know, and it was like the whole world stopped for me. Everything stopped. Nothing was important. The email never got sent. I found it actually in my drafts on Sunday. So, yeah, not the world just stopped spinning. And I was just in a state of shock to be honest with you. I think like like all of us and this cloud that had been hanging over us had arrived, but it was a much bigger cloud than any of us expected. That's for sure. And yeah, I was just likewise in a state of shock for the rest of the day and indeed over the weekend. I actually went for a beer on Friday night and I felt like having a t-shirt on saying, no, I don't want to talk about it. I figured that most people would want to ask me my opinion by which point by five o'clock I was already sick of giving it. There we go. Climate change does that brings a big cloud from nowhere. I was driving into the studio and received a phone call and I'm driving in and I very much was dancing with the penguins in Dick Van Dyck's thing that's like butterflies were flying around the car. It was great. And then the phone went and I thought, oh, answered it and. Got it to disgrace, isn't it? And you know, when you're trying to process that first thing and I was thinking, what does it actually mean? What to disgrace? And then I went, sorry, what? And you went to 10 points and then obviously it doesn't take very much to just go, oh, what? And then very much like you're coming here, coming in and we started to, well, yeah, we had the phone call with the club first and then we had to go on live and very much so, Dave, it was. It was just like that, sickly feeling. Although ironically, there was all so bad. At least we know what we're having to deal with now, because there had been like hanging. But is that I mean, perlet me ask you, is this the worst thing a Premier League football club has ever done because that's the punishment that's been given? Well, clearly, no, no, no, it isn't, is it? Clearly isn't the worst thing a Premier League club's ever done.   It was it was the six clubs. Yeah, you'd try to completely destroy the entire fabric of English football to line their own pockets by breaking away and making their own super league. And actually effectively got slapped on the wrist for being naughty boys. That is far worse than anything.  I think the most is that by comparison, the severity, and that's the word of the of the sanctions against us. Is that when you look at it, it's just completely. Unjust and just doesn't make any sense compared to other examples. I think I mean, I don't think we've we haven't absolved evidence of evidence of broken then set of rules. But I think where I struggle a little bit is there was nothing in black and white for this. For this. So there's nothing in black and white. There's nothing. This is a a trumped up charge. I understand FFP and all that kind of thing. But even like how they got the points, they haven't even said how they got the points. They dismissed the idea of the Premier League's tariff system and I've come up with their own system. And I'm lost for words, to be honest, the whole thing is just. It just feels like I don't know just when you just see a real injustice and you can't you can't express, you can't get it over to the people who are just like, well, you've broken the rules. And you're like, have we really broken the rules? Is it as they said, is it any worse than what other people done? Oh, yeah, but that was something else.  Yeah, some some there's a lot of media on our side. But there's others who are like, well, you know, you broke the rules and you did this and you did that. Did we though? Really did we? Did we do anything really? Like, you know, when you was listening to something last night, I was like, we're in an era where Premier League football clubs are encouraged to spend. We've got we've got rolling 24 hour news that all day when it's transfer deadline day, it's like encouraging the spending of money, like just love it. It's part of like their entertainment or they spent billions that all this summer billions and billions of being spent. And you're just like, so this has just been actively encouraged. This is something that you've wound the fans up to the point of like, if you're not spending on deadline, dating is some kind of it's not successful or whatever. It's fail. Yeah. And yeah, a football club goes over by 19 and a half million. And it's like, and I know it's more. And I know we're trying to get it down below 19 and a half million and said they had reasons why. But I just that's the thing. It just feels like all these teams with all this wealth and all this power and throwing it round and you don't have that power. And maybe you don't have that wealth to back up what you're spending. Suddenly it's 10 points. And I'm just like, no, it's not. It's absolute nonsense. It's absolute nonsense. It's two players in a game being sent off. One gets a three match ban because he plays for Liverpool and one gets a 10 match ban because he plays for Evan. And I know that's it. That's the differences. It's just I'm just. But football to me is just it's just dying on its ass because of stuff like this. It really is Dave, you know when you look like if you look at what Everton have done or sorry, look at the mitigating circumstances around it, right? And I'm not asking. I'm not saying Everton should have been led off because of these. But you know when you put things like building a stadium which you've ever would have took a big loan from a bank at an interest rate of say, whatever, say it was 10% saddle the club with that every year. If ever would have took the full the full loan for the stadium, this wouldn't discharge would never have got anywhere near what it did. So Everton have effectively been punished for trying to not saddle the club or far up my sherry for not saddle the club. Then you throw in a global pandemic which I know every club don't get me wrong. Every club was affected. I'm not saying it's just evidence. I'm just adding it on. And then you throw in a war in Ukraine which is cost evidence. Not only 30 odd million pound a season in sponsorship but 220 million in name and rights, which is a huge figure. And especially when you see a ruling yesterday that basically said you can now continue sponsorships like that and get more money off it, which helps the likes of Newcastle and stuff. And when you throw those together all in the melting pot, do you think that should be taken into consideration that all of those events in isolation are unique to a football club but three of those one on top of the other has had a big impact on a football club's finances? Or do you believe, well, in all fairness, the rules are there. So, you know, how do you look at that? Cos I just think there's three huge events at any time. But when you put one on top of the other it's going to have some effect, isn't it, on finances surely? My view on it is that common sense has to prevail and all of those factors are huge and you have to look at all of the things which have culminated. As you say, we're not saying that the club hasn't broken the rules and we're not saying that the club hasn't been poorly run for years now and got ourselves into mess because clearly we have done, you know. But yeah, I think especially given the fact that the, you know, the overspend was largely to do with the stadium which obviously is redeveloping part of North Liverpool and is going to create industry and jobs, obviously. And it's a good thing for the city as a whole. That wasn't taken into account, as you say. And then other factors such as the pandemic and the war in the Ukraine and the war in the Ukraine obviously then knackered the financial relationship with Usmanoff, which was made for the stadium or the naming rights for the stadium. I think when you look back on it now, though, it was quite obvious that the Premier League with all the noise that was coming out of them into the press in the last four or five weeks saying that, you know, it was looking like Evan were getting a 12-point deduction. They were really pushing for that, really, really pushing for that. And it was, you know, it did unnerve and alarm us all, you know. We've talked about this. We didn't necessarily know what was coming, but it was alarming in terms of the rhetoric that was coming out of the Premier League. And then, you know, it now transpires that, obviously, they're sort of protecting their own backs because they don't want to be independently regulated and they're trying to prove that they can keep their own house in order and how do they do that? Well, they have to make some kind of landmark case and pick on a club which they feel, you know, won't fight back, watch this space, you know. And then also, when you look into the people who were involved in that supposed independent committee, and I don't know how much you said about this already in the last week, but in terms of the personnel that were there, in terms of David Phillips, Casey, and also this guy Nick Igo as well, and actually their previous involvements in situations, shall we say? That's a safe word, isn't it? Absolutely, yeah. They were involved in situations at other clubs which would therefore mean, and I'm being very careful what I say here, it would therefore mean that they would perhaps not be the best people to sit on an independent board when they have got history and potentially a conflict of interests, some may suggest, in this matter.  I mean, it's an absolute disgrace if that's allowed to happen. I mean, though, one of those fellas is acting for compensation for the other club, and a rule was passed before this even started for him to get them round the table and say, this goes against everything, you've got the case for the compensation. How can that be allowed to happen? That, see, even if Phillips and I go are acting in with good faith and looking at it objectively and this is one fella who represented Leeds for a long time when they were having problems and the other fella was involved in the Carlos Teves thing. If you're acting, you know, choosing an independent panel, which quite clearly wasn't independent because the Premier League had to say you was on it. And they'd already made up their mind what they wanted to happen as well as we just said before. Exactly, so if you looked and went, OK, well, let's just say people are going to put two and two together and get five if it was purely in good faith. You would make sure that none of the people on that panel had any affiliation with any football club, wouldn't you? Really, you'd go, let's get someone from whatever, whatever, whatever. Right? Arsenal Man City and Man United are going to threaten. Let's get three of them, whatever, and do it. I would just, if it would have been me, would have been reluctant if I was trying to pick a panel. I would have been keeping all of those little side stories away from it if it wants to pure independence. But I can't help thinking that as well as that, putting stuff out in the media, leaking it to the media that the Premier League wants at 10 points, that to me is prejudicing the case. Now, they could turn round and go, well, we're independent and we don't listen to... Of course you listen to it. Of course you do, once it's out there. You can't do it in a lot of legal cases when stuff are in court. You can't be leaking stories to the press about people where the jury may well... It doesn't really matter. It's not even about whether it was leaked or not. That's what they're requiring. Sorry, that's what they... Recommendation. That was the recommendation. Now, when I opened the press, it never got older at first. Please, that a recommendation is 12 points. You shouldn't be recommending. You shouldn't be recommending anything. You should just say you've got an open book to say. To do what you want to. Absolutely. And if they were truly independent, then they would be able to make up their own mind. I mean, I've had loads of stuff through on this from various different people, one which is mainly being my cousin Paul, who has been providing me with all sorts of information. But yeah, you know, there's loads over here, but I'll read you this one bit. The lawyer who represented Leeds United is appointed by the Premier League to head the commission in the case the Premier League brought against Everton. That lawyer chaired a case brought by Leeds United and other clubs against Everton. That lawyer decided that if the commission he is heading upholds the complaint against Everton, that same commission may wish to award compensation to one or more of the applicant clubs. You know, it's a nonsense. It's just that. It does feel, it feels like, it just feels like as you said, that it was already preempted what was going to happen. And the fitters would like as you're saying, I just can't get over the fact that a point deduction can be wasted in administration, can be wasted in going bust, leaving lots of people out of pocket. I can't understand how it can be. I can't understand how a system brought in to stop clubs from going bust could essentially send those busts, if we had the knock on effect and obviously all the worst case scenarios happened, it could send Everton bust. And that to me, how can that make, how does that make any sense? And now people go, well, you've got to be punished and you cheated and all this and it's like, well, no. Did we really cheat or have we just made massive mistakes or have we just got a really inept football club with a really inept board and a really inept owner that we've been all telling you about for the last three years anyway? So it's not like it's a major shock to us. We know how bad these people are, when they're not cheating, they're inept. That's the thing. I mean, look at the results on the pitch. I mean, clearly we have not bought any kind of footballing advantage at any point in years. No. So, I just think that the whole, I think that the whole thing stinks. Sorry, and the other thing as well just on that point is the fact that Everton have participated and complied with this whole investigation process all the way along. They've been open and transparent, possibly to their detriment, now looking at it when you look at, in comparison with other clubs who seemingly have not been quite so open and transparent. And it just feels to me that whatever Everton did or didn't do in terms of this whole investigation, the mind was already made up. The mind was made up of the Premier League and the Bullshit Independent Commission who were puppets or they have other conflicts of interest. You know, nonsense. With the scapegoat, aren't we? They've been there. We are the scapegoat for all of these things, all converging at once, whether it be Manchester City's 115 charges, whether it be an independent regulator, all these things converged. Obviously, I think probably the Premier League have probably just got annoyed with us as well because they see the amount of trouble. We've sort of caused them as well in terms of the way we've run our club and the way Mishiri's been. But we are the scapegoat for all these things. We are the scapegoat for all this. It feels like it's all, you know, it's targeted and they probably look at it going, no one will actually care. People think we've done our job. And yeah, that's a myth. I think that's where the anger comes from. And again, the disproportion of the 10 points is just baffling. It's absolutely baffling. And each day, though, the thing seems to get worse as people are uncovering how they got to this. What it's done, it's just... Well, I suppose that's the positive thing, is that Everton fans, just on their own, the very nature of them, is they're like a slew saddie. And they should, hopefully, all this stuff that's being uncovered and coming out might help the appeal. I mean, the idea of when you say, where did you get the 10 points? I don't know. Well, didn't the Premier League give you a tariff? Well, he did, but we completely ignored it. So where did you get the 10 points from? Well... And it's come out that there was a real change to do that 10 points and that thing will never be used again. There was a special thing just for Everton. So all that. That's where, and again, like Dave just said there, Everton's naivety in all this is being... Open. Open and not tying them in, not like Manchester City did.  And almost questioning the legitimacy of it. Is that what City are doing? Well, City are literally saying it's illegal now, profit and sustainability rules. So... And what the Premier League make you do is illegal. Which I've said for years, I don't see how they can tell you what you can and can't do in terms of getting money into you, how money comes into your football club, if you're trying to keep the club sustainable. And City are basically saying that now and what they can... So we'll see what happens with them, but obviously it feels to us like we've been hammered. Dave, do you think? Just finally on this then. Do you think that with the appeal and with the amount of, like the spotlight on it now, with MPs, I think 12 of the 16 Liverpool MPs currently have signed the letter. I think there'll be the other four will join in as well. Obviously Steve Rotherins wrote a letter to Richard Masters in the Premier League. Ian Bairn got the early day motion or whatever it was called in place. It's going to be heard in Parliament. There's huge outcry. Do you think this may well end up reducing evidence points deduction? Realistically no. Oh, OK. If I'm awfully honest. I mean, I hope that you're right. I personally don't think it will. OK. I think that it will be the 10 points. And but on the positive note, I think we get out of it. Yeah, you know, yeah. I think that as many people have said and we said before, if there was ever a time to have a 10 point deduction, this would be the season to do it and it galvanises a club. The fans, players, everybody associated and they fight all the way because the only thing we have to achieve this season, apart from the Carabao Cup, obviously, is avoiding relegation. That's it. And if we do that, which I believe we will, then we've done everything. And that's with the assumption that the 10 point deduction remains.  And if so, then fantastic. But in my own mind, I'm not... Banking on that. I'm not banking on it in any way. That's not an option for me. I'm looking at where we are now and the fixtures ahead of us. And do you know what, Ashley?  I quite fancy the fixtures that we have between now and Christmas. All things considered. You know, because first game after this, United at Home will be a bear pit. Orest, away, winnable. Newcastle at Home again. I mean, with the home crowd, who knows, Chelsea at Home as well.  Away on the 16th. Obvious reasons. Olam at Home. The one where I think that, you know, I don't see us getting anything espers away. Up until then, I think there's points in all of those. Absolutely. And there's a reason to fight for all of them. You know, these are big clubs, coming to Goodison or other people who we also want to do for other reasons.  When we perhaps need it most. There, absolutely. So, you know. We're all going to be in it, aren't we? But it's not like we've had the debate put out in the last couple of years, but it's been obviously fractured in ways. But at least everyone's in it together now. And as you said, if you just have to look at it and think, well, the 10 points it's taking off is, let's get ourselves out of it. And then if we get handed points back and that takes us up further up the league, then so be it. But it's just good that there's so much noise about it as well. And you mentioned there, like politicians and stuff, a lot of journalists on our side. People have just got to keep making noise about this. Don't let it settle down. I don't think it will.  But I think it's important people on the outside who are Evertonians or who are not Evertonians make their feelings known as well. This is unjust.  And so we just have to keep making noise about it and don't let it settle down. Absolutely. Make sure that asterisk is next to the points total and say, you know, that's not real. That's not real. And there's pause for the players perspective on John Dyche, the ring of form. If they've won four games, they've won six at the last nine. That's the form you carry on there, isn't it? And I think, you know, in a potentially over romantic way, I think that, you know, the uphill battle that they now find themselves and obviously the galvanising of the support around the club, but also the support from football fans outside of Everton who feel it's unjust means that I think there will be a lot of people rooting for us and thinking, you know what, I wonder if they can get out of this. You know, and will almost be willing us on, you know, in those neutral games where they don't have a vested interest, they'll be like, you know what, come on, do it, you know, but decline that table, get out of it, prove them wrong. Absolutely. That's what I'm hoping anyway. It won't be the case for everybody, but listen, we've got enough, we've got enough ourselves to to get out of the line and fight this and it starts on Sunday. Absolutely. Well, our fourth member who is Nia, this is his thoughts on Everton with a random question at the end of it as well. Hey, Chaps, it's Bush here in a glamorous train station waiting room. On my way to go and interview the Everton legend that is Trevor Stephen about a thing for rock and roll football on absolute radio. Sorry I'm missing you guys. Hope you're doing OK. What a week it has been just when we were talking the other episode about finally Everton being able to kind of quietly get on with, you know, rehabilitation. We get hit with this. Why can't we just have a quiet life? It's just incredibly frustrating, this whole 10 point thing. Obviously they're trying to make an example out of us. It's too risky to have a go at city because I have to hand the league title back and all that kind of thing. But A, it's going to galvanise the club no two ways about it. We're great in the trenches, Everton Football Club, bring on the dogs of war, that kind of thing. And B, I just think what's been heartwarming is the amount of messages from people who don't have a vested interest in Everton who think it's outrageous. I think there's a lot of voices sticking up for us, which is good. I hate the fact that we're back on the radar of all the, you know, the shite journalists from, you know, the Daily Mail and all that kind of stuff.  And I feel like we've kind of moved away from that. So, yeah, I feel like we're going to get out of it and we find some good protests coming up and goodness is going to be a bear pit of the weekend, which is great. My weird question for you guys is this, have you ever done a poo outside? It's a good way, you know what? It's a good way to move on. It's a good way to move on. Right, so my answer is no because I am very much like ship break off American Pie. I can't really go on here, but you know if I was to be able to select it right now, it'd be outside the Premier League headquarters. Why not? Why not alone?  Nothing to add to his naughty question. I haven't, I can honestly say, you know, even in my late 30s now, I've never actually had the opportunity nor the desire nor the need to ever go and do a poo in an alfresco environment. I'm not saying that that will never happen, but it's never happened to date, so I have nothing to add to that. And I support what he says just generally before the before the question. And obviously speaking to Trevor Steven, he was fantastic player forever.  No, certainly not. That wouldn't be the place to make you defecate and debut, would it? No, we don't know if it would be his debut. No, it brought it up, so maybe it isn't. Yeah, but have you got anything to add to that? Yeah, you know, there have been woods. After? There have been woods, you know. Lots of tigers, yeah. Being woods and, you know, you've had to... Shit happens. Literally, yeah. Fair play, OK, let's remember. So we have got, listen, have you got, I'm sorry, but there's more to add. No. There might be, I just don't think it's appropriate right now. Yeah, I agree with you.    Unless it's Mike Peter, that is. Just a few rants. Cos I do think we just picked this up just slightly with a few random questions. Remember the banner on the M62 or something? Yeah, the bannos in the comments said, did you like my banner on the M62? Oh, good, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. So bannos, cwd y poris bannos. Wondr if he puts bannos everywhere and that's why his name is bannogets.   Does he? Yeah, don't you remember he turned up at one of our nights? Is that bannos? That's bannos, yeah, a bit of beard. That's bannos, bannos, that's the cap. Fair play bannos, fair play bannos. Oh, he's got the banner, man. Yeah, fair play. David, we can call him. Brian Ball, favourite all-time TV show. Brian Ball, he's just asked the question, he's not a TV show. He's not giving me some time, I think David should start with this one. If you've got a favourite all-time TV show that you could just reel off, Dave. Oh, no. I used to like kickstart. Kickstart. Fair play, fair play, fair play, fair play. Why do you remember that? Fair play. I used to like kicks.  Feel like those white biking outfits on as well, didn't he? But he used to be on a dead weird time, he's been on like one o'clock in the afternoon, weird. Encouraging people to track off-school. And ride motorbikes on hills, on hills, sure. Not great. Not great. 24, I'm going for it. 24, yeah. I think that's one of my... I mean, that's a different style, isn't it? Oh, absolutely, a different style book, you know. Do you know what my 24 is? It couldn't just like, it couldn't just be on and you just dip into it. No, no. Real time. That's what makes a great show. So mine would be, if I was going to go like, I've got shows I love, but they're like longer format, but I'm going to just go for something. I can just sit down and watch it anytime. Father Ted. OK. If that we are done, if we're doing that, just throw it on, it doesn't matter where at the office, American office. There you go. There you go. So Dave went me clicks that. This is a good one from G.S. That can't be Dave's. No, can I change my...  Now that I feel that, you know, the conversation has shifted. Go on then. I can honestly, I know it's recent. I think succession is one of the best things I've ever seen, ever. Yeah, it's great. I think succession was just an absolute work of art. What did you think of the end then? Now you've protested? It was always going to be tough, wasn't it? Yeah. To when you've had that much water under the bridge and how are they going to wrap it up? Yeah. I know what you mean. I mean, you're sort of implying that it was perhaps slightly disappointing, but I don't know how else they do it. No, no, I enjoyed the end and I just, but I'm sure some people did think it was, it was very much like Sopranos, wasn't it? It was just like bang, done and dusted. But I thought it was brilliant. Great show, absolutely great show. There you go. OK.  What five British Bellens are you putting on it? Third place, yes. I mean, I'll start with one and then I'll come back. Richard Masters is piloting it. That's what I'm going with. Can we go with David Phillips and Nick Higo? So there's three on it, or have you? There's three on there as well. Paedd, have you got two places to add? Yeah. Or do you want your own five? I want my own five. OK, go on then. Trump Farage. British? Don't care. Don't care. I don't know what to do. Trump Farage, Johnson. Yours has got a theme, but carry on. No, it has, it has.  Come on then. Richard Masters is trying to destroy the world. And... Jedwood. No, I like Jedwood. I think they're great. I think Jedwood are great. I can't. And one more, one more, one more. One more. Oh, yeah. Matankoch. No, I can't say it. No lad. Andrew Robertson? No. OK. Oh, yeah. There's a special place on the plane for him. I'm not that spiteful. I am. It's just scrappy doo type. But whoever else is on it, Richard Masters is definitely the pilot on it. But yeah, there you go. Bob Pendleton says, I personally despise Brussels sprouts. What is your devil's food? So just one food type that you put in room 101. Devil's food. I've got one while you're waiting.  Coriander for me. Coriander? Yeah. It's the fresh coriander that you sometimes get on. This sounds very middle class, doesn't it? I hate fresh coriander. Can't abide it. But yeah, I just don't like the taste of it. It's just a bit... It's almost like metallic and... Yeah, I don't like that. But on the Brussels sprouts one, while Peds think in what his answer is, and I've just filled the time here, is that Brussels sprouts also are one of my hate. I just, you know, when they just come out all bored. However, right? And she will be watching this. So, you know, I said before about my cousin Paul, right? Well, his wife, Ali, she'll be watching this as well because our Paul will be watching it. Okay. So she does something clever with Brussels sprouts where she actually slices them and then she sort of sautees them in a pan with, like, bacon. Mum's done this, yeah. And actually, that's a whole different kind. Yeah, that does count. Yeah. And they're really, really tasty. They come tasty, then, yeah. I mean, looking outside of the box, then maybe that is your... So what's her name? Ali. Ali. Well done, Ali. Well done for sex and Brussels sprouts. I'm going to go with... I like that. Corned beef ash. Really? Yeah. I've told you this before. Oh, no. Anything that was given out as ration food shouldn't be allowed anymore. It's a symbol of that. I almost feel like the way the world's going, we're getting back to ration food, so I don't know. I didn't mind corned beef ash. I couldn't have something like spam. Corned beef ash. I couldn't have that, but custard creams for my devil's food. Really? Yeah.  Hang on. You're missing the obvious here. And I can't. No. Well, you see, they're almost... Orange clubs are the real answer. Orange clubs should be banned at the stake.  I like custard creams. I also like... I like jammy dodgers as well. Yeah, jammy dodgers are sad. No, they're sad. I can live with them. They're absolutely sad. They're dipped all day. I like to eat the outside first and then save the jammy bit in the middle. Okay, Dave. It's a live choice. That is Dary's up to you. It's superb. It's superb. Pay hello. You haven't given me a question, but hello. You get us through the long drives. It's the M3 truck of fans. So there you go. Hello. I'll just show you one quickly. Jill Crane. If you could body swap for 24 hours with anyone past or present, who would it be? Why and what would you do while in control of that person? Tommy. There's a cwmle. That is a tremendous answer. That is a tremendous answer. Just to have the size of his... No, no. Just for cwmle. Just for cwmle. Just for cwmle. Fair play. Fair play. Hey, that was a quick one. I liked that one. It might be. Well, it might be. Well, you could do lots. Couldn't you? Got 24 hours. On the boat? On the boat. Just you and Pam on the boat. On the vid count. Okay. Fair play. When you want a better haste, it wasn't haste. No, it wasn't. You want better. You could probably get like a GoPro in everything these days. You could really upgrade that. You could up the ante there, but do you think that... I mean, yeah. You could up the ante. You could... I mean, that would be a... Do you think that might be a passing killer, though? The GoPro on your head. I was just thinking... Well, you know. Well, you know. I know what you mean.  It does. With ante showing. So, up in the ante. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? So, you might have been so much ante, yeah? So, Dave, have you got anything to add on to this? If you could body swap for 24 hours, anyone past present, who would it be? Why and what would you do while in control of that person's life? I think it would be Aquaman or someone like that, because, you know, I think if you're going to body swap, it needs to be somebody who is slightly different to you. I mean, I'm not really very Aquaman, naturally. Right? So, I think maybe that. Where would I go? What would I do?  Do you be fine? Surely it goes like a lansus? I just think maybe a little bit more, you know. Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. I mean, more grrrr than I am. More grrrr, yeah. In real life. Yeah, definitely. Are you just passing that one by, are you? Gary Linnick and I'd stay at everything and win everything. 24 hours? Yeah. I just wouldn't sign the contact at Barcelona. There you go. I mean, listen, I've got other ones that are far more interesting and I've got a current day one. Tiki, whatever his name is. I believe you want to be white. Tiki Tachar. White Lashon, did you say? White Lashon, did you say? White Lashon, because you want to be gone till November. Yeah, yeah, gone till November, yeah. Tiki Tannach. What's the one who's married to Rita Lloro? To Rita Ticka, right? No, not it. Rita Lloro. What's his name, pet? The Greya, dude. Tiki, whatever he's called. You keep on saying wrong names and else throw me off the real man. I can't remember what his name is, but he's married to Rita Lloro. I got that one. He's had fun for 24 hours there. Joe Mack says, if you could know the absolute truth to one question, what would you ask? What would that one ask? The absolute truth. The absolute truth. The absolute truth. Who killed JFK? You love that, don't you? Of course, man. All right. Dave? It's all fun. Yeah. Okay. I still keep thinking about the independent commission. Fair enough. How did you get to 10 points? Yeah, how did you get to 10 points? That's dominating my thought process at the moment. It's all just stuff about how did you appoint those people who were clearly unsuitable and how did you come to that thing? And how have you changed the rules just for us? Okay. Other questions? Other questions. I'll be highlighted in the next four to six weeks.   I don't know. I think maybe just means fondu in the bin. Oh, I see. Right, okay. I'd go for it. I don't know. I don't think I've ever had fondu, but I just looking at them, I'd probably go with chocolate, but I don't know. I don't think I've ever had fondu, either, but I find the idea of it in a savory sense to be a little bit sickly. So I think cheese, what was it?   But plus also, is the meat one not cheese based anyway? Isn't fondu essentially a cheese based thing? Yeah, it's wrapping cheese round. It's going to be meat and cheese as opposed to cheese and cheese. I'm going for chocolate. Do you know what? It's not really my bag to be honest with you. No, no.  Chocolate. I'm going for wika tatiki. That's him. That's him. It's nothing. It sounds like him. That's where I'm going for 24 hours anyway. Let's hope he misses doesn't listen to this. Right. I'm looking at how to pronounce taika waititi. There you go. Wika waititi. There you go. Dave, no sound effect. Just to finish that off. Oh, sorry. Hang on. We can... That one? Yeah. That one. That was the independent commission. That's the delivery to me, Sue Evan.  Right. Okay. That was a little bit more profanity than normal, but hey how the week has called for that. Right. It is sweary, Dave. Let's leave it there. Dave's a very busy man. He's got to go off and do other stuff. As I've we. So thank you all for listening. Leave your comments below. Anyone's question we didn't get to, we will do next week. Big thanks to Mr Bush as well for making a brief appearance. Take it easy. Subscribe. Like. Give it five stars. Do all of that good stuff. I will see you next week. Bye. Take care.


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So earlier today, we dropped the video on two Ravens signings, but it wasn't the one signing that everybody has been waiting on. We've been hearing different reports, different rumors from this guy, that guy in the third about everything that has been and really hasn't been going on with Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens when it's come to contract negotiations. But this morning, Hey, see this is why you got to be grateful for Ravens fans because they will ask not questions, but the questions. And this is why we are all so grateful for Jeff Zribick because he is the best in the business. Shout out to him. But anyway, this morning, Josh Rodriguez 87 on Twitter. He said, Hey, and he edit Jeff Zribick. And he said, not sure if you've ever answered this question, but do you think the Ravens are or should wait for deals with Hertz, Jalen Hertz, Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow to get done before Lamar Jackson? Assuming they get deals done this year before the draft. So that's a good question. It's a really good question because it's like, that's what a lot of people have been thinking. Like, oh man, the Ravens, they've been negotiating with Lamar Jackson. Lamar got his price. Ravens got their price, but they could potentially wait on the deals of Jalen Hertz on the deals of Justin Herbert on the deals of Joe Burrow, because you know, all three of those guys are going to get paid from their teams, but they could wait on those deals to really see exactly where the market is after that and then be like, all right, Lamar, we'll go here and Lamar could be like, all right, Ravens, we can go there. So he was asking if those contracts could dictate the negotiations between Lamar Jackson and Baltimore Ravens. Jeff Zribick answered. He said, I don't think they are waiting on that. The holdup is they simply haven't been able to bridge the gap between what he wants Lamar Jackson and what they're willing to pay. So Jeff Zribick acknowledging that there is a gap and obviously there's a gap because there hasn't been no contract yet. So there's got to be a gap. So that wasn't any monumental news, anything like that. And that's all stuff that we've heard before. But even if you hadn't heard that before, the fact that there is no contract and that means there's a gap because there hasn't been an agreement. So let's keep going because UTY, he quote tweeted Jeff's comment and he said, we become in a terrible franchise. Sad to say only team. And he put that in all caps. That's why I yelled it. Only team that disrespects our superstar quarterback shaking my head. And yes, a lot of Ravens fans have looked at this whole situation like, man, the Ravens are disrespecting Lamar Jackson because they just simply have not been able to get this thing done. It's been years. It's been years. But Jeff's reply was they've been more than willing to make him the second or third highest paid player in the NFL. And give him most up front. He's entitled to say no, but we're going to have to agree to disagree about that being disrespectful. So Jeff's rebate letting it be known like, hey, Ravens are willing to pay some serious money. They willing to throw Lamar some serious cash. Like, hey, Lamar, come on, Lamar, take it and look, look. And because he talked about Lamar being the second or third highest paid player in the league, that's pretty up there. But I wonder if Lamar is telling them, like, that's nice, but I want to be number one. Remember that Nellie song? What does it take to be number one? That's probably what Lamar got playing in his headphones every day. Every time he's getting ready to go to the contract negotiations, got a plan on, I don't know what kind of headphones to use. I don't know if he signed with with bowls or what. Anyway, that's precisely the point. So the Ravens are willing to make him the second or highest third up, excuse me, second or third highest paid player in the league. And that is significant because that that's a lot of money. But that part, the next part and give him most upfront. So what that screams to me is giving him a lot of cash flow early on in the deal that those upfront guarantees, those upfront salaries and whatnot, the money that you get, the signing bonus, the money that you get when that deal is first inked, that initial payout. Not it's not the entire thing at once, but that initial payout. Jeff Zribick is letting to be known at the Ravens. They like, hey, Lamar, here, here, we got you. But again, he said he's entitled to say no, but we're going to have to agree to disagree about that being disrespectful. So Jeff again, letting to be known Ravens are they showing them some money. But Lamar saying, hey, that's it's not enough yet. Not enough yet, baby. Now, let's go to the last part. This one came from logic. He said, he said, this is what makes me so curious. If this is true, what is the hold up on getting the deal done? I would love to be a fly on the wall with these talks, because he quote tweeted what Jeff talked about with Ravens being willing to make Lamar the second or third highest paid player in the league. So he said he just wants to hear it. He just wants to hear the negotiations. He just wants to listen to what Lamar saying, what the Ravens are saying, what everybody involved is saying, because obviously we are nothing.  And again, the only way, only way this can be resolved is with a contract extension or trade. A franchise tag does not resolve this that just prolongs it. Anyway, Jeff Zribick replied, he said, fully guaranteed. So again, the question from logic was, this is what makes me so curious. If this is true, what is the hold up on getting the deal done? Jeff Zribick said, fully guaranteed, they haven't been willing to do that. So Jeff Zribick, he obviously he's a number one Ravens guy. He has cleared up something that we have heard from other people. We've heard from different reporters. We've heard on NFL. Now we heard on ESPN. We heard here and then everywhere. But I know I said to myself, like, we heard it, but from a lot of people, but we really heard it from nobody on the inside. But Jeff Zribick, you know, Jeff Zribick, he he don't play about his stuff, man. He don't play about his reporting when it comes to the Ravens or really period. He don't play about his reporting at all. But he obviously covers the Ravens been doing it for a very long time. So Jeff Zribick is confirming it. He confirms it right here, what it is. So Lamar wants a fully guaranteed deal. Well, about trying to get that brand, baby. Anyway, reading it again, fully guaranteed, they haven't been willing to do that. So with him confirming that, but him also confirming that last part, that's something that we all we all do. That was that was the case. We knew the Ravens don't want to give nobody no fully guaranteed deal. We know that. And then, like my guy, Nitro, when we had him on that day, he brought out a really good point. He talked about how the the Browns and then I know a lot of people have brought up this point, too. The Browns messed everything up. They messed everything up. But he feels like they had like a little bonus incentive to do the Deshaun Watson deal the way that they did it just to mess up with the Ravens, just to mess the Ravens up with Lamar. I mean, excuse me, because against the Browns, especially, I mean, against really a lot of them, except the Steelers. They really played it much against the Steelers, but against the Browns, especially Lamar has been a thorn in their side. And I mean, the Ravens have just been a thorn in the Browns side for a while, especially with Lamar. So it's like, man, if if you can't beat them, then try to get him to join somebody else. And in a fell, it's a nasty business. It's a very nasty business and people and teams and franchises, they are all trying to one up each other. But within the division, that's your first goal. Your first goal of the season is to win your division. So how can you help yourself win a division? Well, by taking your opponents out and not just on the football field. So with the Browns, given Deshaun Watson, a fully guaranteed contract, fully guaranteed that puts pressure on the Ravens. It puts pressure on Lamar to try to get that for himself, especially because Browns, Browns know like everybody knew. And I still question it to this day. But now saying stuff like this out loud, it makes it make more sense because I question it from when it happened. And then even to this day, like, how could you give somebody with all those allegations and all that? How could you give that person a fully guaranteed contract? But the Browns did it. But now when you really think about it, like they knew that the impact that this would have on the NFL. And yeah, Russell Wilson and Kyle Murray, they got their contracts after Deshaun Watson, but not Lamar Jackson. And Russell Wilson is older. Kyle Murray is about the same age. I don't know how old or younger he is than Lamar. But Lamar is obviously not more accomplished than Russell Wilson. But Russell Wilson is older, guy. He got a couple more years and he'll be out of here. Well, unless you just decide to play forever like Brady. But Kyle Murray, he's cool, but he ain't accomplished as much as Lamar. So the Browns can look at that and like, we know that Lamar, he's going to want this money. He's going to see this and he's going to want this money because of the way that the market works is next man up. Next man up. And they usually top the previous guy, but the Browns probably knew. They're like, oh, yeah, Lamar going for the guarantee. Let's do it. But we know Bishari. We know he ain't going to want to pay nobody fully guaranteed. I know Lamar Jackson. I don't know. So what the Browns are doing or what they did is helping get Lamar off the Ravens. Will it help enough? Won't know till we know. Won't know till we know. But again, it does put a lot, a lot of pressure, a lot of pressure on both sides, Lamar and the Ravens. And now like who? Because I just I don't see the Ravens budget on a fully guaranteed deal. I don't I don't see the budget on wanting to give him a fully guaranteed deal. And Lamar, if he ain't budged this long, he may not budge on getting a fully guaranteed deal. So now we just got to wait. I mean, we've been waiting, but we just just got to wait. With the franchise tag, they could go that route. I don't think that this report it gives anybody any more hope that the Ravens will get this deal done with Lamar Jackson. I think if anything, it creates less hope in people that the deal will get done. But I mean, things can change. Things can happen. People can cave, whether it's one side or another, people can. What's the word I'm looking for in negotiations when you are not settled, but I cannot think of the word right now where you sort of like give in compromise. There we go, compromise. Thank you. Oh, my goodness. Because I was thinking we're going to get off the video. We're going to finish recording and then boom. I knew it was going to come to me then, but people can compromise. Again, whether from the Raven side or whether from Lamar Jackson side. But we just got to wait it out and see. So again, shout out to Jeff's Rebic. He thank you for providing us with the update. Thank you for always providing us with updates, but especially about this one. So like a lot of us are hoping he won't be like a lot of us are wishing that it doesn't happen. But just like a real possibility, it does just like Lamar Jackson could be when it comes to being with the Baltimore Ravens. If things go south with the contract negotiations. I'm out.


r tent scenario from the ball and like how we really had to be really mindful of who got what size tent to make sure that it was a good functional space for all okay yeah okay um and obviously jia cricket i i you know i'm in on your emails with greg and there's there's there's a you know there are some kinks to be worked out in this i don't know whether these will be i doubt they'll be fully active before spring um but we'll see i we'll see how that goes and obviously we need your letter of approval on them on them cricket uh making jenny um corral do you have a comment on these of course i do i'm me um i i will say i i like the design a lot just from looking at the picture because one of the things i've seen with some of the um information about like restaurants trying to set up outdoor structures in new york city in boston where they're actually making more enclosed structures than their actual building was because they're making these plastic cuts and sticking heaters in them and i really like the idea that we can manage which sides are open which sides are closed or looks at least it looks like look like we can the other thing i would want to to add to the conversation um for getting them to put together and getting the money is that you know when we built that ball field in stock bridge we uh the johnson's got us a great grant and we were able to do the matching piece of it with the labor so if we could if there were grant opportunities and i don't you know i certainly don't have time to find them and i'm not expecting you ethan or bonnie or lindy but if there are ways that we could find someone that could say we'll we'll pay for the materials if you put up the labor in terms of in terms of supporting that i really think that you know i i know that in stock bridge when we put out the call for people to help build that kitchen hut and do the grading of the ground and all that we had more volunteers than we could use so i really think that we you know if we put this project together and said let's try to do it as a community and get some buy-in from uh some local contractors and people to help do some of the construction work we can maybe uh get a you know you know a couple of them at each campus um you know just a lot to throw out there well that's i mean that's certainly my thinking is that if this if this is the type of structure and i love that it's locally produced as well um is that you know and obviously being the tent the tent man as my t-shirt said um i would love to see two of these at each campus at least um you know that i think moving forward these tents are great they got us where they did they were cheap joe that was it it was just to give an idea i believe lindy we spent about 1500 per tent might have been less than that might have been around 1000 and then we probably put about another 250 in materials per tent to reinforce them and make them strong enough to uh to survive at all so you know 3000 for something that's much more permanent really gets us out this gets me to a question for administrators you don't need to answer now but i would really love to see um some sort of framework some sort of intent of what we're um what these spaces need to be used for what do you want them to be used for what do the teachers want to use them for because i think that's we're sort of a little bit putting the cart before the horse oh a roof over kids heads that's that's that's fine that's all we need and i think the idea of ventilation even after coven hopefully there is a time after that um um you know what exactly it is we're looking for but that said we have one donated and let's look for the fundraising i think we will keep going in this and i'll keep you posted good thank you i'll just add i'll have a better analysis by next month on our esser funds that could be available that could offset the cost of one great great um and certainly anybody listening to this who happens to have you know some donation possibilities maybe we start to go fund me you know um i wanted to say to the board that i put the website in the chat where the prices and sizes of all of them are listed um you can review the different sizes for for that and then also the price for um both put together and if if you just get the kit good all right i think we've done that uh seven seven sale of the rochester high school property um amazingly this might one we have no executive session scheduled because there is basically one step we have received a map um that uh bonnie i'm sorry i realized i did should have asked you this question bonnie have you looked at that that map did you see i have not i have not even oh okay i'm sorry um i thought you had gotten onto that um but i will say um uh uh it does follow what you and i walked um i think i have a copy of that eason if you okay come on i can actually it's not it's not supposed to be david said it should not be public yet until we've in the negotiation okay basically that's the step we're at now is to set up a um a small committee of board members one from each town uh to start negotiations with the select board um possibly not the full select board just in individuals so that we have a representative group going forward to start the negotiations looking at the map before we go to the permitting process that is that is sort of the way to go forward so what i would like to do tonight is entertain a motion to um uh uh to start this to start this committee i'm perfectly happy to be the member from rochester if nobody else wants to step up or feel strongly about that um uh if there's another um but he had a term david had a term for this do you remember what it is jamie contact something i can't remember doesn't matter we're getting the idea across um and this this is basically we're charging um an individual group to go and begin negotiations a control group a control group yes that's it that was his term um do we have any further can we move it and second it and discuss it so moved all right any discussion about this group anybody from stock bridge want to step up and be on the committee well i don't need a second i mean i i i don't think that my motion 21 brain automatic second but that's just my ego a second second thank you justine um uh uh good so we're into that we've got a motion to start a uh a committee a small committee to negotiate with the town of stock bridge um i i'm stepping up for one member is there somebody else who would step up if well i would do it if you think i would not be helpful i will stand aside girl i think you'd be fine you're you're looking for one rochester one stock bridge board member yes so we're not quorum we don't have to worry about quorum as far as meeting with the lawyer but that we could sit down and negotiate and then obviously bring that back to the board let's see okay um i'm does anybody else have reservations about curl being on this negotiation committee him and his ego and actually look at my picture my big shiny bald head yeah well there you go hey that could we might blind them with our with our reflections if we don't get it with our logic we'll get it with our forehead very good okay um any further discussion beggin no i just want to say thank you guys for volunteering good justine no thank you pat i see your hand raised let me just get through amy um no i guess not oh come on what is it no no that's okay okay uh and jenny any questions and thank you carl and ethan for doing that good all right uh so the committee has been formed all in favor signify by saying uh a committee to be negotiate the transfer of the high school building with the select control oh pat sorry pat let's let's just hear from pat real quick yeah go ahead pat please i just have a quick um question comment um this process also needs to go through the zoning board of rochester so are you planning on new after the fact or um yeah the idea that david's thought was that better to negotiate the boundary first before it goes through zoning we're ready that was his that was his thinking and that can be part of our negotiation too yeah because that takes time too no yeah i understand i understand i'm just um i feel like we're at the step and i was really eager to get us negotiating get us talking to each other finally formally great good um okay uh so the the proposal ahead is to start a control committee of a member from stock bridge a member of rochester to negotiate with the town of rochester for the transfer of the high school building all in favor signify by saying hi amy hi megan hi justine hi jenny hi carl well it'd be really kind of ironic for me to vote no uh for the position i just volunteered for i will vote i yeah but i would expect you actually okay um and i say i great we're done okay so we um we're gonna go to pulpit ethan just before you move on just just i want to stand corrected when you said that i see the map my brain was thinking of some larger map of the site i did see the map of that property line that you and i walked yeah the one that does a little jog around the playground yes i just i just wanted to clarify that okay good um now this feels great i really appreciate this and uh we will we will uh we will move forward um great i don't think we have no you haven't heard no no thank you let's let's do our public comment all right barb to heart do you have a comment here normally i do but i don't okay thank you very much charity very interesting i'll say that charity colton um my question is kind of more towards lindy and jamie so it's sounding not unexpected that we're gonna be in a last minute possible decision when it goes to going back to school live or stay virtual um and obviously i have kids in the school and it's working although i'm admittedly not a good teacher um will we is there a potential plan for getting a message out to families sooner than the possible of saturday sunday with even if it's just by email additional documents that we can add to say our literacy packets and our math packets and stuff like that as a preemptive move even if we don't end up using them i'll just jump in so charity i have an admin team meeting on thursday afternoon with all my principals to review the current data and status and then say to them here's the action plan in regards to how i will communicate out to the community and what your expectations are to communicate out to staff so yes okay and charity i've also told staff to be ready for either or so they need to be thinking about how to get stuff like that out yeah i i'm assuming that you guys have i just know like for us the boys have already gone through all but one of their literacy pieces and we're on day two so send you more i know that's my thought is really excited but i just said that uh both boys are but i hear that we need to send you some more i'll make sure that happens yeah and you know i'm i only bring it up because you know their teacher for that had said to them today we didn't want to give you too much we didn't want to give you too little but if we're heading into a potential possible last minute notification that we're not going back then yeah like i know my boys are going to need more literacy info so i am i'll just add just uh charity i think we'll have a pretty good sense for stock bridge actually on friday just because we've been monitoring you so closely i actually think it could be more last minute from my some of my other schools potentially because of the surveillance testing versus stock bridge so i think you'll have a pretty good sense friday of what the decision is okay and then the other question i had is also kind of around that is um lindy you made a perfect comment that we all have to be honest about our you know day-to-day activities and if we get the sniffles is it really because we cleaned out the garage and got the sniffles or is it actually a symptom so my question around that is because lindy knows and i'm not afraid to say it in front of everybody um i have kids with allergies and she and i and jane have been communicating on a very regular basis about what kid needs to do what and what documentation we need to get and i have found it nearly impossible to get a doctor's office to actually give us an appointment to say this is just his normal allergies send him back to school because he has no fever he has no other symptoms that are not already documented pre-existing symptoms but if we want to truly be honest how how where's the fine balance there because there's a definite disconnect between the the school building that your child is in and they know your child pretty intimately with the size of our schools your doctor's office who in my opinion may not know your child quite as intimately and Vermont Department of Health and there's three different sets of instructions going on so as lindy knows i spend over a week getting an additional set of documents to lindy in order to validate for not the first not the second but the third time my child's allergy situation and medication so we need i think we need some help and i think we need to put this situation up the ladder that this is happening because i know it's not happening in just our school or rsu it's happening statewide and even beyond that that there's a serious lack of communication of what the state is telling the doctors the state is telling the school the doctors are telling the parents the school nurses telling the parents and if you guys want to continue giving kids a good education we got to find some way to get this more in line until we get vaccines and how to do that that's that's my big question and i apologize i know it's hugely loaded but as someone living in a household that's been dealt with that's been dealing with this three times already this school year and it's lindy's probably sick of having to deal with it with me um i don't know how to move forward any differently than we have but it's definitely been an extremely difficult process even before the community situations in our local area uh jamie want to speak finish speaking to that quickly you're you're muted jamie chair imagine that i'm used to that charity um i'll just say that i absolutely hear your frustrations it's something that we certainly been trying to take up at the state level with the agency of ed in the department of health as superintendents and it's you know i think the one of the positives if we are glass half full feel like we've built a really good rapport with our local department of health and so i hope that they can help us better navigate those situations good charity anything further i know you're done okay um dune henricks do you have a comment no just thank you all for all the time and energy you put into this it um it's um it's a lot thank you thank you jenette whitaker do you have a comment no i'm good thank you very much okay thank you join mills do you have a comment oh dear i'm sorry join can't hear you i'm afraid um let's do it again once you try and come back in and we'll get back to you um karen and ruben do you have a comment no i just wanted to say that i appreciate everybody who is on the articles of agreement committee you guys have been working really really hard quite a bit of hours over the holidays and for long hours in those meetings so i really appreciate the work that that committee has put in to be able to come to the board and give a solid and thorough uh well thought out recommendation with all of the expertise that was um brought into the meeting as well so i appreciate the work that you guys have done on that thank you thank you karen uh cricket as a town's keep person do you have a comment um i guess i guess my only comment is just from a personal place is to i feel like not be afraid to put safety first for a couple months i think it's really important for everybody and i think kids grow in a lot of situations so that's that's just a personal little aside but i know everybody's working really hard and i appreciate that good thank you cricket uh working down do you Megan pat harvey do you have a comment uh no i don't have a comment i look forward to getting together with uh you and carl and uh move forward great thank you rob gardener you have a comment oh yes i do can you hear me yes i can so i'll try to be brief you know i have problems with the um amending these agreements that were already voted on by two towns and uh i talked about it during the meetings publicly and i'll also say you an email so i'd only ask that you carry those comments with you whether specifically or in spirit in this meeting you have with the lawyers and also you know there's a Rochester side to this story as a Rochester person i was uncomfortable with so that's all i'll say about that i also want to say that i really appreciate the tremendous amount of work and thought that everybody in this meeting tonight is putting i'm particularly thought the su did a great job and jamie and the business office i was very happy to hear that kind of clear and helpful feedback from you guys and regarding the covid situation i have a granddaughter who's really struggling with the um out of school learning terribly grades are grades are hurting and she's very unhappy but if you said to her well we can send you back to school see your friends but your grandfather might die if you put it to her in those terms because that's how i think about it so i know the the tremendous pressure that's on the schools to educate to do the best job you can but to err on the side of safety particularly when there's so much that's unknown communication is so difficult um uh that people are are contagious without having symptoms that we're not hearing about a faster spreading version of this i think which we really should be extremely extremely judicious and i hope jamie that you will as i'm sure you will take this very much hard we're talking about people's lives particularly the elderly particularly grandchildren grandparents in the community so uh again i thank you all and i appreciate your hard work thanks thank you bro tim prep do you have a comment jamie nope but oh join hold on tim can you hear me let's go yes you can hear you okay i'm going to interrupt him sorry no that's good uh you're very faint i just want okay can you hear me now yes i can okay i just want to thank eth and charity justine and tim for all the work they did on that board um and it's a it's a darn shame that they can't trust you guys um i was on all those meetings and we there were lawyers there they did a lot of research i really don't understand but um that's okay delay it it sends a great message to stock bridge and we're listening the other thing i or i'm listening i'm not speaking for everyone in my town i don't want to get that wrong but i'm listening uh to the message it's sending uh second of all uh in the beginning when someone asked about the budget and why um why why would stock would you want to get out of the merger there is one concern and i just want to make it clear that um and carl knows about this carl actually wrote a report a year and a half ago that talks about the buildings in the two towns lindy was on that um that committee as well um and so was um cricket and um rob and a few others oh and and bonnie and what we found out we hired or the board hired black river design to do a building study and what they found out was and yes there's been some repairs since this but um on average and this comes from carl's report that uh stock bridge if they did the basics would be about 141 thousand to bring that up to safe and basic standards the um rochester elementary school would be one million three hundred ninety eight thousand and sixty three dollars so this is a concern it's not personal it's not a personal thing it's about no it's about the situation about what we've got in our town and what's going to come down the road as a bond possibly i don't know i you know but what we talked about in these meetings in the building committee um and so if there's a question it's not personal it's not about one one town versus the other it's about future expenditures and um so i just wanted to get that out there people in rochester are lovely people don't get me wrong i that's just where i'm coming from and that's all i have to say and thank you so much for all of your time and effort great thank you joy can i quickly respond here Ethan uh sure um quick here i'll put i'll put on my comment i'll put on my i'm sorry i was fumbling to try to put on my cameras because i don't like just talking it was just a big letter c um two things first of all i am not opposed to to to the idea of um stock bridge voters voting for stock bridge representatives in rochester voters voting for rochester representatives that's just in direct conflicted with with what one of the same lawyers that you talked to Ethan told me um and so that's where i'm like let's put the brakes on this let's have let's have the conversation and i think we're gonna have it in a timely fashion so it's it it's not going to the second point i wanted to make was that um you know as far as what actually never mind that's going to rabbit hole the conversation and very so appreciate that carl the big piece i want to say is that i wanted to comment that i'm not against the idea that that uh stock bridge voters should vote for stock bridge representatives that was not what the legal advice i had been given had been said and i want to make sure before we amend things um that we that that i've heard from legal counsel as well good thank you okay tim pratt you're up do you have a comment i do have a couple of comments so like everybody else these days i was on zoom when you uh asked the uh full r hud board if uh you getting together a committee uh to look at the articles would work and you got a name us yes on that i wasn't expecting for you to get a hold of me and asked me to be on the committee but you know i said i either better shit or get off the top so uh i got on the committee and one of the first things i said was i think we need a second opinion from legal advice and uh i had you know i know that there's an email floating around rochester i don't know the moron that started it that said that uh tim pratt's going around saying that uh rochester he wants rochester out of the merge if anybody has ever heard me sick that they were drunk because i have never ever said that i've been busting my butt for a couple of years talking to slumpers people to on the side say what do you think about changing the article and you know these are people that i know and stalkers and they were like we can't change the article so i did a little research got a whole bunch of savage uh called the aoe and they would rather see articles of agreement change than a town trying to get out of a merge so i i did say that here's what i did say i'm not so concerned about stock bridge going and doing their due diligence legally going to the select board going through the motions to uh do their own voting i have said we've got two years to get our shit together to keep these two schools tim don't forget this is public comment please keep your language clean thank you well everybody that knows me knows i say it the way it's going i i just gotta say that too so yeah okay so we got to get our crap together to uh try to save these two schools because that was one of the biggest things in the whole pre-merge stock bridge wanted to save their school rochester wanted to save our school we just lost the high school the day that we lost the high school the budget should have gone down three hundred thousand dollars overnight that did not happen the budget went up so we didn't just lose that three hundred thousand dollars by tuition or 25 students or whatever it was seven to twelve because at the time it was 25 26 thousand dollars and they just went down to 18 thousand dollars getting tuitioned out so uh there's some concerns that i have as a rochester person you know that has been here much longer than some of these people that are floating around these stupid emails that i have seen the migration from grandville handcock rochester stock bridge and we can't afford to lose more students from handcock but carl was right about the tuition if we don't collect 18 thousand seven seven dollars we're losing money it is not revenue and you know i know that barbara harrick was on board with me she disagrees with that statement and her and jamie could talk all day about how it is revenue but if i pay you 20 dollars i don't want to check you out at 18 that's why i'm missing two bucks in power on you so good tim i just gotta say we do legally it is five minutes per person so just keep keep your keep your points clear i don't want to stop you but i just i just want you to get all your points out okay i understand so in the long and short of it i think that in the in the in the next two years if we can show that we can have equity together equal representation we're just you know the the committee recommended equal representation for uh board members being uh chosen by their own towns other towns in the district did it so when that was one of the other reasons i said let's get a second opinion from a whole different lawyer from a whole different plan and you did do your due diligence i'll give you credit ethan in the last two months i think you've taken the bull by the horn and you've run with it and and you aren't kicking the can down the road like every other issue has been done with this rsud board for three years thank you good thank you tim all right we're down to the telephone numbers i'll list the number um star six two on mute please identify yourself um so five one eight start last two digits three one hello can you hear me yes i can hi my name is bridget and i teach online um i taught at rochester but i'm online this year and i work with um lindy hi lindy you're doing a great job so i've been getting to know her really well um i'm teaching online because my littlest daughter has some heart issues so it's not safe for me to be out but i just feel like it's probably beneficial to shut the schools down because just lots of things are making me nervous for co-workers their kids um and the school and the families like even the idea of getting the kids outside so like i know the kindergarten and first and second grade they have their own entrance to go outside their own exit but third through six don't so if you assume there's like maybe 40 kids and if they go outside six times a day for 15 minutes and they come in and out of the building when they get to school and when they leave that's probably 16 times a day the kids will be in and out because they have to come in school go to class then go outside for 15 minutes and come back in that it's i calculated it it's over like 600 exposures and cross contamination in the hallway and i know we're trying to come up with ideas but i almost just think it's best to close things down and switch you know to all virtual because there's also like a tremendous number of um employees in these both school districts that have covid and i just think we should really think about protecting the vulnerable because we don't really know the long lasting effects of this and so i just wanted to share my thoughts with you about you know maybe closing down for a few months just to really protect everybody especially the vulnerable so that's all thank you could you sorry could you just repeat your name i didn't get a chance to write down clearly sure it's Bridget Kim and i teach fourth and fifth grade online okay thank you well one other thing like i feel that all i don't feel like there should be an any in-person meetings anymore i feel like it all should switch to like a google meeting and really make sure that's happening but it's it's hard because you think you're in a smaller district and it's more intimate than a larger school i i just don't know if it's practical to remain open safely because you know they say it's airborne so if you take off your mask to eat unless you're eating outside you know it's not like the virus stops and says okay wait a minute they're having lunch and then comes back so i just i i think the solution would be to just close down and that's all thank you thank you Bridget number 774 last two digits 59 please start six to unmute and please identify yourself okay this is Sintas and i want to preface this with um i have not had children in the Stockbridge school system but i've been paying taxes here for um over 30 years and i never got a reduction in my taxes for not having kids in the school so i really feel like i've got um a stake in this part of i was really disappointed by your comment to um to the committee's work with the articles um and then your last comment it sounds like if you and Ethan both talked to the same lawyer and got different answers to the same question then get yourselves another lawyer because he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about um and this again kicked down the road um no trust in the committee you set up and that's the way you came across whether you feel that way or not that's the way your comment came across um very dismissive also um in terms of the COVID outbreak at the Stockbridge school i found out about it through um the quick find and uh because i understand that it's a really small community and we don't want to be blaming who brought it in and who has it and HIPAA rules and everything but because it is such a small community i was really angered that there was absolutely no announcement that i saw anywhere that there was a COVID outbreak in this town and i went to an appointment for a woman who operates a personal care business in this town and i canceled the appointment but i thought well she's taking care of her business she probably knows what to do she found out about the COVID outbreak five minutes before i got there and Stockbridge residents are going in and out of her business all day long so i don't think anybody's taking care of the rest of us and i just was really angry and i voted for the merger i'm voting to secede from the merger because every meeting i go to i get i listen to or or went to in person i just get more frustrated i just don't think that this is any of this is all about education it's all about what the lawyers say and that's my piece and take it for what it's worth good thank you thank you for your comments um 802 star star three seven please identify yourself clearly if you have a comment star three hi hi can you hear me yes hi this is leah deform i have a daughter at your school she's actually sleeping next to me right now um i just wanted to let you guys know i appreciate everyone that has been working really hard to keep all of us safe um i went to your school as a small child my husband and i both did now my daughter's going here i've paid my taxes the whole time that i've pretty much my adult life that i've worked because i think it's important that children have a place to go to school and i understand right now things are not probably how they're ever going to be again and um i just wanted to let you guys know my perspective a little bit um i found out on wednesday that there was a covid outbreak luckily we're going into break my other daughter is going to daycare so they both went to daycare on monday and tuesday and so we all have people that are connected through this community and through covid and um i just want to let you know as well that diana will not be able to do online learning i don't have a way or internet connection to make that happen she's also in preschool so it's not that big of a deal but i just feel like the kids are losing out right now and i do agree with the woman who said that maybe we do need to shut it down at the same time how do you do that because really we're all here for the kids and that's it great thank you so much lia eight oh eight oh two star star three eighth and it's keith over at stockbridge thank you hi um i think i'm going to reserve any comments right now there are a lot of interesting topics brought up this evening um i'd like to take a closer look at the numbers and scenarios that were presented by jamie as he threw out quite a number of them and just listening to them didn't make uh couldn't make real sense of it and then i'm weeding on some additional information um i had contacted the boe and i'm weeding on some additional information from them regarding the articles so to make any comments uh based on what was said today i think would be premature so to be short and brief that's it right thank you keith and thank you for you know and and many of the people who come to many meetings um i really appreciate it and i appreciate the feedback um so thanks um i think i'm at eight oh two star star four five please identify yourself clearly if you have a comment star six to unmute okay i'm going to move on eight oh two star star five three please star six to unmute please identify yourself clearly hi and this is vick rubato hi vick hey well first of all i just want to uh echo what others have said and to thank you and the rest of the board for the work you're doing i mean this is really hard work time consuming takes a lot of energy and persistence and patience so i just want to say thank you for that and also you know i've posed three questions at the outset and i've essentially gotten answers to all three so i'm grateful for that too i mean you've explained the rationale for the uh the uh amendment uh task force and i look forward to seeing what the finalized amendments look like so you know looking forward to that and secondly in terms of the impact of separating it looks like it's a pretty severe impact on both towns and you know looking at uh the sizable fdc cuts to the two schools if that were to happen so that's not good and then jimmy i think spoke to the the longer run issue you know what's the opportunity cost and just comments about uh you know given the demographics seeing what they are that you said we're going to have to look at how to do business differently down the road so that seeks to the opportunity cost question so uh i appreciate that um and then also i just wanted to thank uh lindy and bonnie and jimmy for the hard work they're doing with uh responding to covid uh this is all new ground to territory it's tough it's scary trying to do the right thing a lot of conflicting issues going on uh so i know that's difficult and i think i just want to give a message and for the appreciation for that as well thank you vic thank you and uh finally we have a 802 star star 91 please i a desk star six to unmute and please identify yourself this is katelyn mckinsey hi even how are you tonight i am good thank you um so i have a couple questions jamie when you came up with uh the budgeting numbers for if we were to separate when you did the salaries to keep count any of the positions that are shared as full like full time at one place because from my understanding i know that there were positions before the merge that were shared as well so we just expense them off based on the amount of fte in each building we didn't make them full okay um my other question pertaining to covid um so i'm in nursing school right now um and we are required to get a covid test every week have you guys uh looked into possibly doing some tests i know um so yeah we are testing it's it's voluntary i can't require people to test um but it we are having voluntary testing on wednesday and we're rotating it we'll be tested once a month for staff okay and but you checked uh last time we had over it was like a hundred and 20 staff participated in a few days ago i had 75 signed up and i expected that increased um because that was a few days ago but i expect over 100 again across the s kaitlyn in the first round of testing this is lindy in the first round of surveillance testing that we did in november over 90 of our staff teachers and support staff and you know bus drivers over 90 participated in voluntarily in the testing so it was pretty active group that signed up to get tested okay good um and i also want to have any positives at that time it came back totally clean okay i'm i'm more looking at it as um not not that you guys aren't doing your due diligence but more of like a solution um because i know giffer does drive through testing although that test probably wouldn't work good for little ones because that's one way way back it knows um but they do have some that are just basic nasal swabs for 10 seconds in each nasal i wonder would the school accept a negative covid test like that as documentation instead of like charity had to go through all these hoops because her kids have allergies i'm just wondering if maybe that would be an acceptable route susceptible documentation um to have because giffer and does the drive through and it usually comes back in three to five days i know they say it can it can take up to 10 days but it comes back pretty quickly with my my history of getting it done yes okay when we we typically request either a doctor's note of improved health to return and or a negative test and or and or and or okay um but yeah i do and i just wanted to say from going to nursing school and going to vtc and we're online except when we're in clinical or when we're in lab and we have crazy um restrictions when we are in lab and we're in the maps and the goggles and i think you guys are doing really great this pain has helped throughout the learning spectrum throughout the employment spectrum so i think you guys are doing really great in trying to be creative in making things functional and work without you know completely shutting down balancing the needs of families having to work versus staying home with their kids um i think you guys are doing really great for that um the other thing i wanted to say is i feel like the the committee that you've put together to look at these articles has done really great has done their due diligence i agree with the previous speaker that that it was just very dismissed tonight um and it does feel like it's just been postponed mainly because it doesn't fit in with previous agendas of how the board has worked because it's different because it's new and despite all of the legalities that you guys have have gone to prove um other members of the board just just aren't willing to back that unfortunately and i feel like it's there's a large chance that this committee is just going to be dismissed just like the building committee was um and to you Ethan i know Rob asked you if his emails way on you but i also want you to keep in mind that this is a man that went asked if he would let Stockridge out of the merge he said why would Rochester do that why would we do that he's also against amending the articles for the town to come up with an agreement he's against each town being able to choose their own representation and he talks about well what people voted for originally but then when somebody from Stockbridge says that he tells us it's old news like that was that was then and this is now we need to look towards the future um and by all means all of these things are recorded i encourage you to listen to them but um i hope that his words don't weigh on you as much as he would like them to and that's all i have to say right thank you katelyn all right ladies and gentlemen thank you very much for your input and your time hey ethan ethan before you go before you go to bed it's tim uh tim uh that scheduled meeting that the board wants with a lawyer what's the reason for that to be executive session um because a lawyer lawyer privilege you know legal privilege come same thing with the building with the um transfer of the high school well that's real estate that's real estate that's real estate yeah and and and and anything else that has to do that is is attorney client privilege we are the client and so it's it's confidential to talk with our lawyers that said we will do once we do the the um executive session we will then come out and work on that amendment and and and vote it up or down that's my goal all right well if you use my goal as well says carl yeah right carl that's not getting us into too much um we're done we need to really be done tim if that's okay i don't want to push you off megan i just want to say something about um because i've heard from the public and about the articles of agreement committee and i did vote to move it till a next meeting on tuesday i am not i just want to state as your Rochester representative i'm not opposed to changing the articles of agreement i just thought we were dealing with a lot in this meeting and i was just asking for more time to give a more thoughtful in process i actually think that's that's exactly what i was hearing to and i think that's the right way it's too big a thing to deal with in a meeting with everything else it's just we want to do it we want to give it proper consideration so i don't want to tell you as well yeah i don't want it to come across that we are dismissive it was really just wanting to give proper time to a very important issue so thank you and i will make sure that our work and they and the committee is heard i greatly value okay without further announcements uh we have a uh no future agenda items as this we have scheduled a special meeting as of for tuesday i will get that warning out tomorrow um and our next meeting date is tuesday february 2nd 2020 at 6 30 p.m via google meet again thank you for all the people listening and for your comments tonight thank you cricket for staying on i really appreciate it um and thank you to our administrators and staff for all the work um this is you know this is democracy in action so thank you all very much for being part of us i will entertain a motion to adjourn some of i support everything you say and i i guess i got because i pontificated i got uh out moved on the move so i will second excellent all in favor signify by saying hi let's go home


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