You're listening to mind pump the world's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast now today's episode we answered Four fitness and health questions that were asked by listeners and viewers Just like you but the way we open the episode is with an introductory portion where we talk about current events and studies Sometimes we mention our sponsors. So what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna give you a breakdown of today's episode By the way, you can go to mind pump podcast calm and fast forward to your favorite part Everything is timestamp. So if you just want to hear the fitness stuff fast forward But I recommend you listen from beginning to end because that's the way we think everybody would that's how we made it So we start out by talking about annoying things. We have fun conversation about that Then we talk about bio hacking by the way Ben Greenfield our good friend is the world's best bio hacker He's got integrity super smart and he actually lives the way that he preaches He has a masterclass on bio hacking that goes over Hormones and diet and brain health and much much more and because you listen to mind pump We got a hookup for you. So here's what you do. Go to get key on comm. That's g e t k i o n dot com and then forward slash B m c mind pump That's a letter B the letter M is a merry C mind pump go check out his masterclass. It's really cool Then we talk about the documentary by Adam Corolla. No safe spaces really really good Then we talk about passive income goals and how monopoly the game monopoly teaches you about passive income and the value of it Then we talk about Justin getting freaked out at home by the raccoon. He's scared of animals Then we talk about that one steak tips no not tips on how to cook your steak but rather steak tips themselves Jesus tip cuts of meat that are Really delicious and we work with a company called butcher box That only deals with the best quality meat grass fed meat and here's the best part good prices Because they deliver it to your door and because you listen to mind pump you get an exclusive Discounted offer. So if you like quality meat, if you like your health, you like to build muscle I like those things go to butcher box Dot com forward slash mind pump and then use the code mind pump Then we talked about how 22 percent of all dollars ever created were created in 2020 Yeah, there's not going to be any negative effects from that serious printing going on right now Yeah, we'll see what happens. Then I talk about the uk's new sex laws. Oh you guys over there Crazy people shagging like crazy. They talk about a new study on ghrelin This is the hormone that regulates appetite And then I talk about glyphosates those things that they spray all over plants to kill weeds But may actually be harming your microbiome and maybe even your gut. Oh, it's affecting me By the way, organifi is a supplement company that makes organic products But they've also partnered with third party testing that tests for glyphosate residues It's super stringent testing.  All right, that was the intro Then we answered some questions for fitness. Here's the first one Why should I do compound lifts if I can develop an amazing body doing isolation lifts? They're hard Next question, uh, what causes the small muscles in your shoulders and upper back to get injured When you're doing things like bench presses and overhead presses By the way, we have a webinar where we could teach you some and it's free It's a class that teaches you mobility moves. You just go to primeprowebinar.com Next question, uh, how do mini bulks and mini cuts compared to Long bulks or long cuts cuts in other words, is it better to Diet for short periods of time or to diet for long periods of time And the final question this person's asking us a business question. What do we think about gym sharks? 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That is the ultimate cesspool Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah a few if you ever work in construction sites Your standards and then the one with like the pictures taped on the inside of the door, okay I've worked in really gross Hold on what kind of pictures Yeah, like like naked lady picture What are we doing here? Like this is a work site You know, I've seen that appropriate. No, I haven't seen that. I remember that once my I was like 13 And my dad took me to a work site or whatever and they have outhouses or what are they called porta potties or whatever? And um, yeah, dude, you close the door and they're like they stuck They would stick pictures on the on the side of the door.  I was like, yeah, my mom's like, man, you're up early for working with your dad. Why are you so excited? Everybody go to work. So you're still taking a dump in there. What's happening? I'm gonna mix all the cement Uh, but anyway, um, no, I hate this you put the I don't what's it called the the seat cover the toilet Is that what it's called? Isn't that called the toilet dug? I don't know It corrects me on everything.    Yeah, just it's cold seat Yeah, cold bear seat or like leftover wet stuff Or it's half on the toilet seat and half in the water and so the water starts to absorb about Yeah, it starts coming up So I might have sat on kovat. So I just want to warn you guys right now. But I hate that. Sanitize that That's the worst ever, but then you course you work in gyms. Uh, I worked in gyms forever So public bathrooms don't ever bother me, but that does I don't like to feel Cold plastic on my cheeks.   No turn signal. No nothing and then went slower than the person on the other lane And I was like that this is a deliberate like, you know She had a decision where I'm just I'm gonna cut you off. I'm gonna go really slow Did you do the right thing and terrify her? Yeah Monster trucked over her car Hey Prius, can I say this? This is I think this is a fact. I've observed this now I don't know at least a dozen times Prius drivers are the worst drivers. I agree. Have you guys noticed that? I've called my sister-in-law out on that too.  She had one and it's yeah, it's a different mindset I think I've seen more Prius's speed cut people off and just do I don't understand what it is Maybe because you feel like because you're doing good for the environment you're That you're better than people You're just running on these like little, you know fart fumes Lines much better than you that's that's the sound You know those are such a scam. You know that right the cost and yeah I remember when I bought my corolla. I was going down back when you were pimping. Yeah hardcore. Yeah No, there was I went through it. This was uh, this is let's see here When I'd have either that corolla was that's the math sound by the way. Yeah, that's my head I think it was about 10 or 10 to 10 to 12 years ago somewhere around there I I decided that okay. I'm gonna get a practical car, you know up at this point like, you know I was all about like my dream cars or whatever car really really want to try I'm like, you know what I need to be responsible now. I'm getting older and I'm gonna go buy a good car a car that gets good gas and that's reliable long-term like who cares what it looks like Doesn't need to be cool And so so so who is this guy? I know I know right well Well, I did have you know, I still had the uh the integral in the truck. So it's the third car, right? So it's like, okay I've got the two other cars that I thought were cool at the time that Now I need to have a practical car that I drive most of the time to save the life on the other two cars And then to save money and gas smart. So and what really uh Kicked it off for me to go down there and do that was This was during the time I used to bank with Wells Fargo and they this was right This is dating ourselves, right? This is right when the banks started to do this now every bank does this now So if you're young you're like this guy's back when banks were invented. Yeah, this is when you remember when Washington Mutual I mean, do you guys remember the when banks started to do this Doug? Maybe Doug's probably he's more into this stuff When they started to uh Track for you all of your gas Bill oh, they'll break it down. They break it down for you. Yeah, I remember that Okay, you remember that right like that was that was in the last, you know, two decades that happened before that That didn't do stuff like that. So I remember the first time That I looked at that and up to that point Um, I always worked hard my my thought process was I'll just work so hard that I have Always have enough money to pay my bills and I live below my means So I'm okay and I always have money in the savings So I don't think about my day-to-day spend until that came out and I look and that time I was driving this big lifted truck and I was driving up to uh Tahoe all the time into the lake And I mean I was taking trips everywhere and I was spending $750 to $800 a month on gas And I was like holy shit. That's a lot of money back there too. Yeah, no There's a lot of money back then a lot of money today, right? That's a lot of money on gas, right? To be spending you know, you're $200 a week in gas Yeah, and that's because the truck used to get like I want to say 15 to 18 miles per gallon So, you know, I get on I get on the calculator and I start doing this like, okay Wait a second. So that's $800 a month that I'm spending just on gas if I split the driving in half And did it with a car that got 30 miles to the gallon It would negate a car payment of up to $300 and like literally the next day I was shopping for a car I was like I could get a brand new car as long as the monthly payment was under $400 I drove it 50% of time. I would not spend any more money a month and I'd have another vehicle And you'd save the life of your old truck or whatever I was shopping the next day and so of course that time Priuses were really popular That's what was the best gas saver at the time and they had all that was it was blowing up and popular And so I'm like even though I didn't like it and I thought it was an ugly car I'm like I'm going down here to save money So I drive down there to go buy one And I'm on the lot at Toyota And they're you know talking to the salesman and he's you know presenting how much it costs and oh if you You want to get this upgraded battery then it'll take you to like 50 miles a gallon and and when I'm looking at the final sticker price It's like $20,000 more than like their Toyota Corolla Which is a regular gas car.  So I did the math. I know again, and I'm like, okay. So if it's $20,000 more than this Corolla That it would have to get this much more miles per gallon It would take me and then I and I was like holy shit at year 20 I finally break even like doesn't even make sense. I'm like I only have this car for 20 years, you know And and also you could get an old back then now the cars are even better, right now They're even more efficient stuff But this is when they first came out just didn't make any sense Across the board you could get better gas mileage and have a lower carbon footprint or a smaller carbon footprint With like a 1991, uh, you know civic Honda. Yeah for real. I know like for reals It didn't make any sense But people were buying them because it was a bit of a status symbol, you know like look back then that's how I Felt about it. Yeah, and that's what this is. You know how wasteful the batteries, you know that when they throw the battery What are you doing? Yeah, you gotta recycle them. Yeah, and that's a big takes a lot of energy to do that Now they're a lot better now, but that's when they when they first I remember Do you remember you guys remember when we that one time? I remember when we drove and we there were no parking and then you finally found it We were with you Adam. You were driving your truck. You finally found a parking spot didn't notice that it was a electric vehicle only Whole foods too.  Adam's already walking into the store. I'm like, bro I'm like, I don't know if we could park here. It's electric only how many environmental people's heads explode Yes, Adam's like, oh, he's pissed off right because like I have to find more parking so he walks over Instead of moving the car Takes the electric thing sticks it in his window and we go in the store That was you know that triggered somebody You know that triggered some dude, it's like I'm fine if like that's your thing and you're trying to whatever the environment But dude the fast lane is the fast lane Don't be good.  I was so angry No, I I appreciate that kind of stuff But I got I got blasted once because first of all I have this personality trait Good or bad. I don't like being told what to do just a thing that I have to deal with Did you see my did you see my story about you on that? Yes, day before yesterday. No, what'd you do? Yeah, no, did you make fun of me? I did not I did not I did I was I was defending you and I guess in a sense right so somebody was uh making fun of your remember your Your chucks for a while there when we were doing youtube more often Uh people were saying that oh my god sells chuck. He still has like the full laces in because they were all long Tell him to cut his laces and so somebody had asked that in my questions as sal cut his chuck laces I said you obviously don't know sal very well. He is the type of person that just because You point that out Yeah, if you pointed out and you tell him he should do something He is the type of guy that even if it was a good idea or he might want to do it He won't do it just because that's so bad. It happened with us with game of thrones Exactly. Oh, tell me you're not that guy. I know. It's true dude. It's a it's a flaw It's a big thing I have to work on so I happened to be once again I was at another parking lot and There was no parking and I know the laws, right? So I know that the parking law laws like when it says parking for Uh electric vehicles only like there is no law to support that that's that's so anybody could park there There's nothing I do the same thing though now you can you can and you should this is me being like self aware Calm podcasts out, right? You should It's a private company. It's probably a good idea to respect what they want to do That's that's a good thing But in the moment when I'm annoyed and there's no parking and I feel like I'm being told what to do And there's eight electric parkings wide open. Yeah, and they're wide open.  Yeah, I'm like, oh, sorry. I didn't read the sign I she's like you didn't see the big sign. I'm like, oh, man. I mean she's right Yeah, I've been confronted with that with the e-cart parking too for grocery stores.  That's why you just that's why you just take it in the window.    So obviously I'm following the rules that you just made up You know which one I always, uh, respect though the uh, pregnant. Oh, yeah I always you don't want to be that guy. You don't want to be that guy.   It's like come on. What are the chances of 12 pregnant ladies coming here right now? Hey, I don't know speaking of pregnant dude pregnant I forgot this pregnant women get treated very very differently in society Then like we're I don't care where we're at if I'm with Jessica She's obviously we're ready to pop any second right and so she's been very visibly pregnant now for a little while If there's any line, I don't care what it's for any line Everybody she can move to the front women are so that's right nice to her in which you know I'm gonna make a generalization typically in public women can be a little mean to each other You can you just feel it you can see a little bit not when she's pregnant everything can I hold that for you? Can I carry isn't it? Don't you I find that really interesting especially you you love to talk about evolution It makes sense right it does I think I think about it when there was only 10 of us You know and then the the one lady who got pregnant it's like oh my god You're you're helping us survive and carry on. We're gonna look out for it. They do and I love seeing that I love seeing that makes me feel good about humanity that pregnant women get you know taking care of that We were we were at uh Santana row and I don't know have you guys been there by the way lately? And night it's Pat. Oh, I did go there actually no they everything's outside cracking that dj outside It's packed. I think people are just so they want to be outside right so we go there and we didn't make reservations I don't know I should need to make reservations to have dinner at five five p.m It's kind of early. Wow, but we go there and every restaurant that we check we check like four They wouldn't even allow walk-ins. It's our rule booked all night. Yeah finally found one that had a weight It was a two hour wait So and now Jessica is like hungry. She's pregnant with my family. I'm like, oh my god What do we do? And so I told her said honey I said trust me Just go up to the front and just ask the host how long the weight is I said hold your belly And just do this a fake of braxton hicks real quick Just just be like oh and just do this just be like, oh man, I'm so I'm so hungry. Just say that worked They let they totally cut us all in front of that's amazing The closest guys have and I've experienced this is when you have a classic car. That's true Or diarrhea. Yeah, okay. Well, that's totally different story You really have to sell that Classic car people are just like, oh, hey, awesome. Yeah. Oh, please get in front of me Park here. You know here. Let me carry this for you Diarrhea though. Yeah, you gotta actually that's how you get out of a ticket dude. That's the move Really? Yeah, that's the move. Have you done that? Yeah, I've caught pulls you over.  Yeah So, you know, maybe I abused that a few times wait So you've actually gotten out of tickets more than once by saying you had diarrhea when I was in my when I from 17 to I don't know probably 24 try this probably probably almost 10 years. I I uh had that You're driving with your girl.  I know you tell cop that like, oh my god I'm on I'm literally like three minutes from home. So it works, huh? It does. Wow.   I tried the wasp one or the bees, you know, what? Well, yeah, so like like I was I I got caught because I kind of swerved around the car through like double yellow lines Yeah, and I was just swatting it as he was coming in there like, you know And then I saw that on a movie and they went, you know crazy. I think it was like a chris farley movie But yeah, I was like I totally tried that You just don't just don't mess up. Like, hey, why are you going so fast? Oh, I got diarrhea drink too much beer Yeah, I mean you gotta make sure you don't say it that way my dad once tried to get out of a ticket by Not speaking English. So he oh god. He was speeding on a motorcycle He used to drive really fast my dad and he got pulled over And so he did the whole like No speaking English, you know, he speaks broken English, but he's like, no, no, I'm sorry. No speaking I don't understand So he's arguing back and forth with the cop and the cop is like visibly getting frustrated He's like forget it No, my dad he's like, I thought I had him he goes I could tell he was pissed off I could tell he was frustrated But I kept telling him I couldn't speed he was on the he said he would get on the radio And he was seeing if other cops in the area spoke Italian can't find anybody Of course we're in San Jose. It's gonna be hard to find a cop that speaks Italian So finally the cop walks over with a blank pad of paper and a pen and he draws jail And then he draws a stick figure and he points to my dad He goes you this you go here unless you sign this ticket So funny anyway, hey, I got contacted by an old client Who I hadn't trained for a long time. I actually trained her when she was 13 because her mom was my client And I love working with kids. I also love working with older people and for different reasons And um, you know, it's kind of cool when I find when I talk to old clients I haven't worked with for a long time and I see that they it made such an impact that they their careers now We're kind of chosen based off that that's cool. So she finds me Sends me a DM and she's like, hey, you know, do you remember me? And I'm like, of course I remember you. I'm like, what's going on? And she's like, oh, I I just listened to your podcast. She's like, I couldn't believe I found mine pump. I heard your name and I was like, no way. That's my old trainer And I'm like, so what do you've been up to? She's like, well, I'm into training and I'm into Biohacking. I'm a huge Biohacking like fiend. I love learning about the human body. I love about, you know, maximizing it whatever. So I'm like, of course I'm like Did you hear about our podcast through Ben Greenfield? Right. Yeah, exactly. That's where you'd go first. She's like, yeah, I did.  So she was talking about all the crap that's out there Um, and we were talking about all the good stuff and you know, I had of all the bio Whatever you want to category of biohackers There's really only one guy that I would Sit down and kind of trust and talk to you and that's been I can't think of it Can you guys think of another one? No, I think that before I saw charlatans in that Side of the the industry for sure. I think I think collectively we did not like That side of fitness for a long time.  We've seen how they live their life We've seen the stuff they promote and it's it's based around trying to just continue to make money off of people It's yeah, there's other big rocks that 90 of the population should be focusing on But there is A percentage of the population that has dialed nutrition has dialed exercising He's got to be the most dialed person I know right and then are looking for the next competitive edge Edge for longevity and living a healthier life and quote-unquote biohacking And even when we before we met ben and we knew of him and we were going out to see him I was very skeptical. I didn't care for what I'd seen so far But when we met him I was blown away.  Like he's the guy that all message because I know that he's probably already applied it to his own body He's actually used it and and noted mate He makes really good notes from each one of these products and like really evaluates the worth of it Which is great. And you can't you can't do that unless you've teased out all the other things Like people that are like promoting like if you're not like dialing in your diet your sleep and your training Like I don't want to hear about this electrical product that you put up your nose that makes you improve your cognitive performance Because I know that sleep diet and exercise are going to affect, you know, 90 something percent of that type of stuff Right, right, and yeah, ben is he definitely lives it But here's the challenge with that space is that when you're dealing because what's biohacking really what it does is That whole space. I wish I had a better word for it But they they deal with the cutting edge So what I mean by that is all the newest Most interesting stuff that comes out it goes there first So what this means is if even if you have integrity you're smart and you do it all like ben does You're not always going to be right because it's cutting edge, right new new new new stuff By the way If you go back 15 years sleep was biohacking But your microbiome was biohacking challenge that because I've seen a lot of really old ideas that went through the fitness industry now Make it into that Space as you call it because it's it's all like geared towards, you know These executives and these people like within like the corporate world.  It's totally new So, you know, even the best are not always going to be on point But ben really breaks things. You know, he's doing a masterclass for for people by the way Really? Yeah for in person or virtual? No, these are virtual classes and he's He's gonna do like modules essentially so like hormones. I haven't written down Because I was gonna look into it Hormone sleep gut health recovery fat loss immune system Personalized nutrition and he's teaching this so he's basically taking And doing like this really really high level course. So it's not like very cool Yeah, so you'll go through it and you should come out and knowing ben He's not gonna be very thorough. It's gonna be extremely, you know, thorough on, you know, everything that's uh, that you learn That's very cool. Hey, did you did you watch the documentary? No safe spaces. Oh, I loved it, bro Did you guys watch it yet? Not yet. Justin.  If you had a better transition right there, I mean don't I just I I've been busy watching other things That's all I'm saying. No, it's Adam Corolla. Uh, it's his good his documentary and he talks about the essentially it's the It's how free speech is being treated. It's really strange I did not know the Brett Weinstein story and the whole washington ever game evergreen college I did not know that story. Yeah, I had I had no idea about that and Watching it on that documentary and now I'm like so intrigued I had Katrina reach out to Brett Weinstein Hopefully to get an interview with him I know we just talked recently that he you know, he was on Tom bill you show and and Tom did a great job But man, and now I'm like, oh my god. I wanted to hear I want to hear him talk about that Yeah, I mean the dude like was scared for his life. Yep. They they literally were threatening He was he didn't know what to do.  So do you guys know the whole Justin and Doug, do you guys know the whole story behind that? Oh, well, basically So this is where they they didn't want white people to go to campus. Yeah So there's this they have a tradition. They have this tradition called the day of absence I think it is and it's based off of this play and maybe Doug can look it up day of absence I think that's what it's called. Anyway, there's this play evergreen college that I've never seen I've never seen this play before but apparently in the play Yeah, minorities in the play decide not to show up to work And not contribute to society to show everybody how important they are. So it's a really interesting play Sounds like a great play. I've never watched and it's a really cool thing that the college has been doing Yeah, so for what they've done for years is minority students Once a year Voluntarily say we're not going to come to class. We're not going to come to school and the school has honored it It's part of this whole thing But then they flipped the script one year and they said If you're a white faculty or white students don't come to school, which is very different. It's not like choosing To you know, it is day of absence. Awesome. Who's the who's the guy that put that together Doug? What's his name there? Okay, somebody wants to look it up. Yeah, Douglas Turner Ward. Okay. Can you read us the can you it says the story? Can you give us a little synopsis for the so I because I don't know sure Yeah, it says it's a satire about imaginary southern town where all the black people have suddenly disappeared Oh, I see. Okay. Interesting. So anyway, so they flipped it and instead of saying we are voluntarily not showing up to school They said white people and faculty Don't come to school and he's like that's very different. That's very different And wasn't this what what caused that because it just has happened like a year ago, right? The thing is 2017 was it was a few years ago And it was was it part of the the whole BLM BLM movement. Is that what kicked it going or what what caused it to do? I don't remember what it said. There's just been a for the last 10 years. There's been an interesting shift And especially in in colleges and this was kind of part of that trend, I think So he's he's a white teacher. By the way, ultra liberal is is political policy like preferences and whatever Very very liberal. So he's not even a conservative and he's like, this is not the same You're forcing people to not come to school. That's totally different races in itself Yeah, and he goes i'm coming to school and anyway it caused big problems riot You know at the school protests and he was fearing for his life. So that was the story behind that But this documentary it's very interesting, you know, it's so opposite Colleges used to be like Berkeley for example That was like the the seat of the free speech movement in the 60s Like that's students would be like we should be able to say whatever we want Um, you know and not be uh, you know not have government tell us what we can and can't say not have the colleges Tell us what we can and can't say and it flipped It's totally flipped now to where they're silencing Speech and this is a bit of a scary precedence actually unique um in american history because Of all the countries in the world all the free countries in the world america values free speech Uh greater than anyone actually we don't in fact you can't go to jail for speech here unless you're inciting Violence whereas in other free countries you can go to jail for saying Certain things or or whatever. So our speech is very very Protected here, but this is the first time it's been challenged. That's what the whole documentary well Yeah, and then in the documentary they say something that You say a lot or at least I've heard you say it at plenty of times And I'm pretty sure you've said it on this podcast definitely not off air. We've talked about this and that's You know that is that was put in place to protect Hate speech well not just it's to protect unpopular speech You don't need a law for popular speech if if everybody likes it in his pro it You don't need to put anything in place to protect it Well, here's here's what's important about that because there's definitely things that people can say that I think we can all agree is terrible. You can make racist comments. You could say terrible things about children or You know and I would hate that someone said that right? So I get that we can all agree upon that but freedom of speech is explicitly there to protect unpopular speech because At one point saying slavery was wrong was unpopular speech You know at one point saying women should vote is unpopular speech In many countries criticizing the government even in some free countries. This is a big one is considered unpopular speech That's still today in a lot of places. It is because how are you gonna? Stand up and fight against tyranny if you can't talk about it. That's right and also Blocking speech doesn't block people's ideas and thoughts and that would rather be out in the open And then let's debate. Let's air it out and let the best ideas, you know come forward Compete the ideas and obviously the the best one's gonna win. Yeah, so it's it was a very good Documentary Adam Crowley is such a I didn't know he had the most downloaded podcast ever Yeah, yeah, I knew he's been in the game like one of he's one of the first Yeah, I know I know Joe Rogan's on pace to beat that now But he like he did Joe Rogan is getting more listens now now But total downloads because Adam was in the game like I think several years before Joe even got into the game Wow. Hey, did you I was playing? Monopoly with my kids the other day and uh, you know, that's not a bad game to teach kids how to Invest properly. Yeah, it I love that game. I mean it always turns into like a fight at the end But you know, at least it's like it's good.  Yeah, totally. I actually does that interest him. Is he interested in that? He asked me questions about interest rates Loans and so I try to break that down for him. I say look when you're young and you have Not a lot of responsibilities. I said Try to live below your means Take your money and your goal is to take your money first save it try to save your your first You know 100,000 or whatever or 50,000 Try to make that which is hard by the way It takes a long time But then try to take that money and then try to find ways for it Seed it to make money for you because if you try to become Wealthy just by earning money through work It's gonna be really hard There's only so many hours you could work and that very many people can Get a job or build a business that ends up making them super wealthy But most people I remember there's one client I had who was he started off as a grocer as a kid in San Jose and eventually was just a grocery store manager But because he always bought properties, you know and obviously in the Bay Area The guy was like by the time I got he hired me he was in his 60s. I love stories like that multi-multi-millionaire Yeah, I love that dude. I finally got into that haunting a blind manner. I think you brought it up good right dude So it's a pretty funny thing last night. We were watching it and we were watching the first episode It was starting to kind of get intense and uh, you know, you're seeing little flashes of like, you know ghosts and stuff And we're getting like oh And the music started kind of picking up And it was a hot night and so I had one of the doors open with the screen door open And we started hearing stuff outside, you know, and I've been telling you guys We've been having like critters and all this stuff like, you know more visible these days So uh, we're there with the dogs the kids are asleep and uh, you know It starts to get really intense to where we're like, okay There's gonna be something that's going to jump out on the screen You know how they kind of set you up for that and all of a sudden we look over we hear a rustling outside But wait, is that outside or on the screen?  That's my biggest fear is you pull back the drapes at night or open the blinds and there's a face Yeah, like that was just like staring at it. I was just like I think I'd start crying. I saw that. Yeah, see that does not interest me at all. Well, no, the raccoon happened It was kind of fun though.  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter, dude It's not so it's a good. It's well written. Tell him it's well written. It's really well written Yeah, it's it's a good story and I know you're into storylines and all that But dude, I think it was he was attracted because like I've been barbecuing a lot lately too So they smell that and they go around it and you know look for scraps and all that and they're always trying to eat the dog's food But uh, yeah, I was I've been growing a ton lately, dude Like we had some awesome steak tips with um, I haven't tried the steak tips. So these are the butcher box My favorite. I have I don't know what you guys are your favorites. Yeah, the cuts of meat. That's my favorite so far Whoa, I didn't know they do that. I don't know if it's all the time Is it one of those like add-ons that they do? It might be an add-on. Uh, yeah Well, you had one the other day that was an I so I'm what I'm really bad is I've kind of set like what I know I use go on there and check for the yeah, I got brisket I don't like three biscuits. I don't check enough to see all these so they constantly are doing like changes of add-ons They had lobster tails a little while ago. I know right. Oh, I didn't take advantage of that You brought that one that you just heated up in the microwave. What was that like a brisket or what was yes? And it was already shredded. It was like in a like a single meal. Yeah, even though they oh Oh, no, no, no, no, you're talking about the pulled pork. Yes. No, they had pulled pork. It was already cooked But you know typical butcher box, right? Healthy like good ingredients or whatever then they have What's it called brisket? Yeah, so they don't always have it But if they do I get it and then we do it in the in the pressure cooker Well, I just love fall because like you get the squash you get like, you know A lot of those types of vegetables and peppers and things and so we made this medley with With potatoes and everything with it. It was so good. Yeah. I yeah, I like the I like the winter because then I just eat more Yeah, that's too Just wear my sweater Something heavy. Yeah, I'm still doing I'm still bro. I you sent out I think sal sent over this article and we have to talk about this because this is This blows my mind that this stat is real and I fact checked it for what I what I see it seems to be real 22% of the money that is in circulation right now in the united states Was printed in 2020. Yeah 22% almost a quarter of all dollars was printed this year that not printed created Same difference. Yeah, same difference. Yeah, but created another work because some it's digital, right? Meanwhile, we were having this crazy coin shortage and all that. Yeah, dude. This is getting me worried It's it's so what makes me worried about that is the amount of inflation that has to happen from that already We're already seeing it. You're already seeing it in Investments, you're seeing it in stocks So you're seeing it in houses And pretty soon you start seeing it with consumer products So essentially what this means is that they they they've done these stimulus packages, right? This one trillion dollar one. This is another one that's trillion dollars What that means is that they tell the fed federal reserve We need more cash to flood the market and we're going to use it for these different things But because it's not money or wealth that's backed. It's not created by increased inefficiency It's not like a new product came out or a new service or something that you know increased efficiency It's just money. It's just monopoly money It what happens is all the rest of the money that's out now loses value so if there's like, you know, if there's only a hundred dollars available on earth And you know, there's there's a product that is worth 20 dollars and then you Double the amount of dollars that are available, but they're not connected to any productivity or efficiency Now that product is automatically worth 40 bucks. So just it raised the price. Well, it's like anything. I mean that put compared to a Ferrari, you know a Ferrari only makes so many Ferraris every year And then and part of what keeps the value of them is that there's only a hundred of those if all of a sudden If we made 100,000 of those those models it would go down because so many more people could afford to buy it That's what we're doing with money. We just all of a sudden flood in 22 percent. That's insane to me This is how I teach my kids about the value of money. So I'll do this thought experiment with them and I'll say What I said, do you think it would be a good thing if we just gave every person in America? 10 million dollars and a little kid's always gonna be like, yeah, of course We're all rich. Yeah. And so then I'll explain. Well, okay. Here's what ends up happening if you do that It's everything's just that much more expensive. So nobody's better off And then we explain, you know inflation how that works where somebody taught me that when I was a kid I had no idea. I had no idea either. Yeah, but I remember being a kid going like, why don't we just print more money if we have the ability You got the machines. Yeah, why don't we just print it and just give this tribute to everybody So everybody's okay. You just that's why that, uh, I can't even think of the name of the book the Peter Schiff's book Which turned us on to interviewing him that book was Such a great book. I mean, I can't wait to read that book to max because they they did it in such a Simple way that a kid could understand by telling the story from the very beginning being on the island. There's two people They're fishing so at that time that's the commodity. That's it You know I'm saying fish to survive and then somebody figures out how to make a net and now there's 10 fish and then what And like the evolution of an economy what it looked like We're just so far beyond that that people can't comprehend. We're removed from it, right? Yeah Yeah, so you we're so uh, there it is how an economy grows and why it crashes. Yeah. Yeah, no money has to represent Good services efficiency. Otherwise, it's worthless. It doesn't it's not worth anything You guys ready for some weird crazy and I don't know maybe scary news So this is in the this is in the uk right now. Okay, so they have I think they've designated certain parts of the uk Like more safe left less safe depending based upon covid infections So here's what they release. It's just happened couples living apart in areas with tier two restrictions So apparently these are places with more restrictions because Covid cases are climbing.  That's exactly my and this is a law. They're saying that they'll punish people in the law too Yeah, they put this in their regulation So obviously what they do is make examples of a few people make it look like they're on top of this You know, right? Yeah, we're gonna make a real hard stance with this Dude, you cannot manage that that's a that's a like a nightmare to manage One of the one of the worst things you can do is pass a law that you can't never That reminds me exactly. Well, we do it all the time. Don't you remember the uh, why they use fear Don't you remember the fbi warning on video cassettes?   I'm saving it for later. You know what I'm saying? I'm the fbi I know you do that vcr When does that ever happen? Never never happening.   Yeah, that's how you learn how to break the law That's why I'm saying you shouldn't pass laws. You can't enforce because then people just start breaking the law And then the next law is easier to break. You know, I mean, that's that's silly Read an interesting study on the hormone ghrelin. So I know you've talked about ghrelin in the past a lot adam So it's a hormone that helps signal your response the yeah It helps signal that you're full right if ghrelin goes up. It means you eat less or whatever So they did these animal studies Where they blocked the receptors to ghrelin to see what would happen to the animals a couple interesting thing happened the animals ate more frequently that's expected because ghrelin helps tell you that you're full so now that they don't have the receptors for ghrelin They're they're more likely to eat more often But here's something else that that was interesting. They their memories were severely impaired So they weren't able to remember You know things as much because ghrelin was blocked and in in yeah and in also and I remember reading studies of Drugs that never made it past the full FDA Testing where they're trying to see if they could you know, because they're always looking for the weight loss loss pill Yeah, so but they did find that there were some cognitive impairment issues And it kind of makes sense to me because If you're an animal and you find food in nature and you eat until the ghrelin goes up and you feel full It probably encourages you to remember Where the food was but if ghrelin never goes up You never get that improved memory to remember where food is because animals are really good at that They're really good at remembering where oh no, I look at the bear or truckie. Yeah. No, that's exactly right I remember I remember I told you guys that was like the thing I was most worried about after I saw that He broke in the house was he got enough food that he'd left a ton of food which means he got he remembers Yes, he ate until he was full and then left you better believe when that it kicks up again and he gets hungry He will follow that trail right back to that same point because he had so much success there. Yeah. Yeah, that's wild Yeah, so it just points out that it's not we're so complex that just Finding something and be like this is the key. Yeah, they targeted it. There's going to be some downstream events You need to or consequences you need to be careful with and I don't think we're gonna any time soon stumble upon the Perfect weight loss pill. I think it's way too complex still. I'm sure at some point we'll figure it out Do you think so do you think we're ever going to figure it out? Which by the way, even if we did it still wouldn't give you all the benefits Do you guys remember remember that one that was like the Uh, you put it on your head and then it shocked your your vagus nerve. Yeah Yes, it it affected the vagus nerve and they will cause you to eat less I was and make you do I'm wondering where that's at now because I I was super worried about modus or modus or modium or something like that. That was what it was called, right? Yeah, I wonder I wonder how they're doing. I mean even if it works that was the thing because here's even if it works It's like the the analogy that we give with You know giving people money like winning the lotto It's the same thing like if you if even if you get this fat loss pill that actually works Like it's still going to cause problems because the behaviors that you have to put in place in order to earn that Or figure that out. That's what makes you healthy. Exactly.  No because it's never that is what allows you to sustain that So the journey is everything and I you know, I can say this confidently if somebody has been you know Training and working out forever If I were to list the most Important benefits of exercise and nutrition For myself like the ones that are the most important in my life The building muscle being lean, you know looking good wouldn't make the top probably five It would be up there somewhere, but it wouldn't be in the top five the the benefits the real benefits I got was learning discipline learning how to You know regulate myself Learning how to have a good relationship with food And then all those those skills bleed into the rest of my life. This is why people who Exercise regularly and prioritize the nutrition for long periods of time are more successful Typically with their families the more successful with business because these are skills that you end up learning It's that analogy I give all the time where I say You know the man who you could you could take a helicopter and drop someone off on the top of mount everest and they'll have a beautiful view But it's not nearly the same as clowning that's not as rewarding. No, you climb mount everest. That's a completely different experience You learn way more and you grow way more, you know as a person speaking of of learning Remember that study I brought up on on venus how they said they Found something that that told them that they were there may be life on venus Yeah, now they now they found that glycine is in the atmosphere So an amino acid that is a building block for life. So more evidence that there may be Life potentially so I mean dorks it's gonna be crazy once we actually get to mars like and get samples and all that I wonder if there's you know similar type of organisms there too. I I think it'd be so cool Yeah, so crazy. Yeah, my my conspiracy theory is that humans geek out on that too?   I could think of it.  What's in here? So I can like I know whether to waste my time again. You're gonna waste your time with all of these Yeah, I know. Okay. So what do you want from me? These are ridiculous ideas that I have I find entertainment value in it I don't like I'm not like subscribed to the ideas. Justin did the uh interdimensional sasquatch Isn't that great? Oh, that's so good. That's a real is there a real conspiracy?    Like there's this huge button. It's like aliens. We don't know the answer It's aliens must have been aliens. Yeah, it's hilarious. Oh, I want to bring this up before we transition to the question So in the past I haven't talked about this in a while but in the past I've talked a lot about glyphosates so glyphosates for the listeners who don't know are chemicals that we invented that are herbicides so you spray them on plants And it kills the plant. Okay. And so this is this is why gmo plants Um are have taken over the market because what a gmo plant is like gmo corn Is it's modified corn so that it doesn't die when you spray it with glyphosates But then all the other plants around it do die So if you want to have a bunch of crops of corn and you want to get rid of the weeds You blast the whole crop with glyphosates the corn survives And the weeds die but the problems with glyphosates are glyphosates also They interact with this pathway called the shikamade pathway, which is what you find in plants But you also find them in bacteria So one of the problems with these glyphosates is you are blasting a mild antibiotic into the ground killing The biodiversity of bacteria in the ground not a good thing Not a good thing at all. I mean, there's you're talking about billions and billions of pounds of glyphosates being sprayed Every single year affects bacteria, which also live inside of us. That's right Which is what we're mostly made of right So then you eat then you eat GMO plants the GMO plant themselves probably not going to cause a problem But the fact that they have glyphosate residue all over them Over time theoretically could really disrupt your gut microbiota It can cause the spaces in your gut Cells to space out causing leaky gut syndrome So it can cause a lot of problems and some scientists think this may be one of the main reasons why We're seeing so many food allergies and food intolerances just explode It's because of our exposure to glyphosate. So that takes me to our partner organifi So organifi is partnering with a a company called the detox project So this is a third party laboratory that tests products. I didn't know this specifically for glyphosate residue Oh rad. Yes. So that's so which by the way, this is hard to do even even with organic food because they're still There still remains of it and it's out in the air and it goes up and and then the rain brings it back Right. I remember I remember dr. Bush when he interviewed when you interviewed him and you guys talked about this Like it's almost impossible to get rid of it completely So having some sort of test to measure like the best areas or best crops And there is no like regulation on how much glyphosate residue something can be on or whatever But anyway, so organifi product and this is one reason why we work with them, right? They're so concerned with quality They're going to get third party tested and they got the stamp of approval from the detox project So in other words, their products got very very Hard like scrutinized. They got scrutinized big time for do you have any glyphosate residue? What's the deal? and Great, well, we saw their action with the heavy metals and when I came out with the study of all those other companies Now they're doing this. I mean, there's not a lot of companies that are putting their product to that kind of testing Yep, so their products they can confidently say are residue glyphosate residue free Confirmed by a third party. So not them saying it. It's a third party that's testing them. Shout out to organic awesome First question is from I love dallas Why should I do compound lifts so when I can build a good-looking body with isolation movements? I wonder if that's debbie. Yeah, well first first of all Oh my god, that's a throwback. Yeah, I know only if you're like in the 80s earlier You'll get that you need a vcr to pull Um, so first of all, that's the question Assumes something that's false. Okay. So can you develop a good-looking body with isolation movements better than doing nothing? But you definitely won't develop the full potential of your body without doing compound lifts compound lifts are just far more effective at Developing the body building muscle Building more functional strength they burn more calories. They'll speed up the metabolism better They're just far more effective. So whatever body you can develop with isolation movements only Number one, you would have got there way faster had you incorporated compound and that number two You had you're not reaching your full potential. Yeah, I would say You can dig a pool with a shovel Or a tractor it's up to you I'm saying if you if you if you really want to use a shovel to do it you absolutely could And I guess if that's the approach you'd rather have but That's how big of a difference lifting those compound lifts will accelerate your results fat loss building muscle strength So but that being said you could I mean, I know I actually know a lot of a lot of guys that I mean, I competed with a lot of people that like did not train Compound lifts and they built some of the most competitive way they did no compound lifts very little. Wow. Well, I mean Bench for everybody bench presses, right? But I mean, they're not they're not squatting. They're not deadlifting They're not overhead pressing So those those three which I think are three very important movements that you should be doing Um, most people bench press but I mean the overhead press the deadlift and the squat Um are we're not in a lot of body. They weren't in my routine for a very long time. I was this guy Yeah, but you still did rose you still do Right. Yeah, I did some other but I when I think of someone saying this I think of them They're not doing the the big ones, right? Yeah, like they're not doing the big compound lifts that people because they're hard They're hard to get good at and so people Avoid them, but that's what you gotta understand is that What makes them so good and so valuable is the fact that they're hard Is the fact that it it has a long it has a long period before you get really good and mastered if you If you do things and the body gets good at it and masters it really quick The results slow down you got to understand that so, you know, how hard is it to teach somebody how to do a tricep pushdown Or a bicep curl It's not very hard and because it's not very hard and it's easy to learn how to do that The results are quick you get some a little bit of results as soon as you start doing it But then it falls off really fast because it's that easy to do it It's the things that have a that are very challenging for you to learn how to do that provide All this all these results because it's a it's a long time for the body to adapt and get good at it Yeah, this question just makes me cringe. Yeah, I like it like right away Mainly because uh, just the overall function of your body. I mean nobody If if this is your mentality if you just want to pump and air up your muscles and look, you know decent In terms of like a balanced symmetrical physique and that's your only goal in life You still have to recognize the fact of how your body is going to move and function and be able to operate long term And there's going to be problems that that occur from that when you segment your body into just single joint movements all the time You're not going to have that communication For your overall body like you would doing these compound lifts where we have to organize More muscle groups involved to really pull off Normal things in life like heavy objects. You got to move and do things in rotation and and and you know, you're going to leave yourself susceptible to more Instances where an injury might occur. I wish I understood this when I was younger because I I can understand where this person's coming from I was definitely this I mean as a even as a trainer even having the knowledge of knowing that Oh compound lifts are supposed to be better for me. Yeah, I didn't care because I could build a physique But now where I'm out in my life. Boy, do I wish I would have pieced that together a lot earlier I think I'd be further along I would have had to put in half the work that I put in to get to where I'm at physique wise And and I love that I I understand this now today as a father and being so busy with business and everything else I I don't have the same Commitment to the gym as I did just five years ago competing when I'm in there seven days a week training hard for an hour An hour and a half every single day It just doesn't look like that anymore Sometimes I get 30 minutes and sometimes that's only two or three times a week And if I was doing isolation exercises, I would see like nothing Like I literally you if you're only training a half hour an hour You know and maybe on a good week two or three hours in a week of training And you're doing bicep curls tricep push downs and lateral raises and in peck deck You weren't seeing shit as far as well But I tell you what and that little bit time if all I'm doing is overhead pressing squatting Deadlifting rowing bench pressing just those those five major movements If I'm doing just those things in that time what you could do to accomplish that and that a little bit of time I'm like maintaining a decent physique.  It's all patched together Yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me because I want to look good But I also want to be able to move and be strong And isolation movements just get crushed when it comes to performance But again the results you're going to get are just you're going to get there faster And you're going to get further with the most effective exercises Then you would if you did the exercises that are not as effective and also It's really hard to make up for them. In other words, I can't think of Six or maybe even eight isolation movements all done together With lots of sets in volume that would be equivalent to five sets of squats You know, you could take a bunch of isolation exercises and put them together and say i'm not squatting But i'm doing all these isolation. I got one for quads. I got one from inner thighs Outer thighs glutes and hamstrings and calves put them all together still not going to equal one exercise That's how effective they are. So You know, like adam said you can you can do things the hard way or you could do things the easier way It makes no sense to me why Somebody would want to go the long route and do it the in a way that would result in less strength and mobility The next question is from mel bell mcb32. Wow, he's names today Creative what causes the small muscles in your upper back and rotator cuff not to strengthen Resulting in shoulder pain. Okay So shoulder pain can be quite common in people who get really strong with bench presses and overhead rows And it's not not necessarily because they got strong at the presses It's because the supporting stabilizing muscles couldn't keep up with these big prime moving muscles, right? So you have muscles that stabilize your upper arm your your humerus bone And they prevent it from twisting, right? So they keep it strong and stable and then you have these big prime movers your packs Your your delts your triceps and those you're working directly by bench pressing and overhead pressing and these stabilizer muscles They are strengthening a bit But over time these prime movers start to get so strong that these stabilizer muscles just can't Keep up, you know, it's like a it's like putting a really really powerful much torque. It is it's like having a car That's the way to explain it. Totally. It's like having a car with a normal frame That normally is 150 horsepower and you put a thousand horsepower engine in it. The frame is going to twist You know, if you don't if you don't stabilize the frame and strengthen the stability in the car It's literally going to twist the frame as soon as you hit the gas To me, that's the best analogy for this question is exactly what Justin just said It's like it is literally that like you can't and you can't do that, by the way If you don't know anything about cars, I know very little about cars I know enough to know that like I can't take my Camaro And I can't turn it into a thousand horsepower engine just by itself Like I could do that you need to reinforce it But it would literally like it would it would rip apart It would be so much horsepower that I wouldn't be reinforcing all the little things You know the suspension on it has to be able to do that you have to be the sway bars You'd have to have all these things the tires the the rear end like all these other things have to be strong enough To support that much torque and that's exactly what's going on here as you've built So much big muscle right so much horsepower That you're not Work focusing on all the other things that support you have to build up the supporting cast and that's you know It's just as essential like so maintaining the actual function of your your shoulder is is crucial And the thing about the shoulder is it's It's ability to go through so many different ranges of motion is it almost seems endless and so For people to just focus on what you're seeing is mainly that sagittal plane and that overhand grip And everything is is really building and developing you know this this this insane amount of strength in that direction You know, it's leaving all the rest really susceptible to You know not being able to control You know where your bone is in in the joint and everything else and then boom you're you're open for something to snap Yeah, and you know here's something else that happens as a result of it at some point your body refuses To get stronger because you get to a kind of a breaking point. So I've actually well injury happens Injury happens a lot. I mean or you're just like oh, man.  That's right I remember years ago as a kid remember when I was a kid The exercise all guys compared was bench press that was like the the test of strength, right? So if you met another dude that lifted weights, how would you bench? You didn't ask him how much they squatted or deadlift or what it was always how much can you bench? So it was like this real important exercise, right? So I it was like one of my focuses was I got to get a really good bench press right ego lifting And I remember I I don't remember what the weight was I got stuck out But I got stuck at a particular weight and I couldn't go up and I couldn't go up for the longest time Couldn't figure out why I couldn't improve and I was reading a I don't remember what magazine It was it must have been muscle and fitness or something in the back in the very back They always had these little ads for Supplements or a new exercise machine or whatever and I always loved reading the little ads because I always thought I'd discover some kind of secret back there like This is where I'm going to learn like something new, right? And I remember seeing this picture a thing was called a shoulder horn And it was this plastic device that went over someone's neck And then they they put their arms over it and they would do what I know now to be external shoulder rotation Looks like a big-ass thymaster for your shoulder kind of right and so you put it over your shoulders and you do this thing And I thought oh, this is this is weird. This is so silly. Anyway, I talked it. There it is It's a shoulder shoulder horn rotator cuff is the name of that guy's mullet. That's the exact picture Is it really look at the guy's mullet obviously from the early 90s.  I just mimicked the exercise at the gym I went to the gym put my arm up on a bench grabbed a dumbbell and I remember feeling so Unstable I had like a five pound dumbbell and I rotated in and I remember thinking my shoulder. This does not feel good I thought this is interesting So I did that and within a week my bench press went up 10 pounds like within a week because I strengthened these muscles that needed to get stronger and they were holding me back And that's when I learned that these are important areas to strengthen And even if you just want to get stronger in the gym, you got to work on mobility and stability because those will get in your way They'll prevent you from losing an easy way to do that Is This is why I love like the stuff that Justin likes to talk about like what's neat about unconventional training Is it it challenges a lot of those types of muscles? Yeah, and that's what makes it so beneficial And that's why it should be in everybody's routine So you don't have to go to get a shoulder horn and do some direct exercise just for your rotator cuff You can do a kettlebell swing or you can do a uh macebell swing that incorporates that So you get this exercise that's going to strengthen it and has other benefits too. That's what's neat about Incorporating unconventional training is you as a you know as a byproduct you do that also That's why I think it really should get beyond unconventional I mean if you're really serious about maintaining this this Crazy amount of strength in your shoulder and you're really trying to get beyond You know your plateau and press it a bit further You should be thinking about loaded rotational moves if you're not then you're not building up your supporting cast Properly and I I actually respect people out there like a chris duffin who he came up with like the shoulder rock And so it's very similar to a macebell one of the only guys It's like a a freak of nature, you know lifting like ungodly amounts of weight But it's considering that as a component in his training to support This this gargantuan amount of weight Yeah, if you're if you're a muscular strong person at the gym And you find that when you go throw the baseball around with your kid or frisbee at the beach And you find that your shoulders sore the next day even though you're really strong and fit It's because you need to strengthen and work on this supporting cast of muscles You can also if you want to learn some of the stuff that we did Adam taught a class You go to primeprowebinar.com and there is a specific shoulder mobility movement in there That is way better than uh, like even shoulder horn or isolated You know shoulder external rotation exercises the handcuff with a hand cuff or do something like that and do it right And you'll get a lot out of that in terms of shoulder stability and it is a free class So you just go on there and watch it Next question is from connor nagel zero seven How do mini bulks and cuts compared to traditional three month intervals of bulking and leaning out? Well, you know, it's funny about this. We talked about mini cuts and mini bulks First year we started the podcast where we recommended rather than people going on these long, you know extended periods of time of dieting or bulking Just thrown or our own experience We saw better results when they were shorter periods and they were interrupted by kind of doing the opposite Or by increasing calories enough to maintain and in my experience the shorter cuts Resulted in more fat loss less muscle loss and the shorter bulks result in more muscle gain And less fat gain. Well, we now have studies that prove it. Okay, they have studies now that actually compare You know periods of time of dieting one group has interruptions where they'll eat maintenance calories for a few days Or a week in between versus the other group and sure enough They burn more body fat and preserve more muscle when they do it So that's the big difference. So, you know, and I want to add something to that I would still Recommend this even if the studies came out and didn't prove that for the psychological reason Absolutely Yeah, and that's the thing that we always got to look at too and so and I really think that that's the reason why I think we all came to that same conclusion over the years of training people is We for sure we felt confident We even without having a study to prove that this is the superior way to do it And I think it's because one yes the studies prove that it does it does make a difference and it's better But then also the psychological piece which studies don't ever really talk about or very rarely do you talk about that in You know building muscle and fat burning studies. They don't bring up like oh psychologically This is more people are going to be more consistent with this But I think about that as a coach and as a trainer because I have to get these people to follow these diets Having somebody follow a diet for a couple weeks and then switching it up and going the other direction is so much easier Than telling somebody for the next three months We are going to eat in this surplus or eat in this deficit Every single day for this long of a period of time That's super hard to get them to be consistent with that where if I say listen to a client I what I need from you is just that the next two weeks We're going to eat just like this and then i'm going to change something up It's so much it would be so much easier for my clients to stay focused For those two weeks because they knew that I was going to interrupt it soon And even if they would go through a day where it's like oh hunger pains This is really hard. They're like I can do this. It's only seven more days It's only three more days and then Adam's going to give me more calories Yeah, well you guys always talk about the increase of mass that you actually gain when you're above a certain amount that you're You know trying to bulk anyway, and so it really doesn't look that advantageous to go You know exceed that you know sort of 500 calorie amount anyway because it for the most part looks like you're gaining a lot of fat with a muscle even if you're on pace So, uh, you know just to to keep it within those parameters and stretch it out a bit further seems Like you're going to get closer to your goal and not just build mass You don't want yeah, and it results in in less likelihood of like especially if it's a cut It's less you're less likely to binge you're going the opposite direction a big way right go on a on a three month Strict calorie deficit, you know the odds that at the end of that you're going to go off the rails Is much higher than if it's a three-week Uh cut now here's how it looks okay Here's how it would look if your overall goal is fat loss Um, and let's say you want to lose 20 pounds and it takes you I don't know five months Let's just say What it what the shortcuts mean is that you'll do a deficit for a few weeks And then you'll interrupt it with like a week of maintenance or a slight surplus and then you go back to the cut So a majority of the time you are to deficit because you do want to lose a lot of body fat But you interrupt it uh at uh scheduled intervals, so it becomes many cuts That's what we mean by that and then then the reverse if you want to bulk Same thing you bulk for three weeks and then you have like a few days To a week where the calories are down a little bit to stimulate your appetite reduce fat gain That's what we mean by it doesn't mean you go three weeks three weeks every direction all the time Um, if your goal is ultimately a lot of fat loss you got to stay more in the cut If your goal is ultimately muscle gain you stay more in the bulk But inner you know interrupting it uh at short intervals, you know Three weeks is the number that I typically work with anywhere between three to two to four weeks I would say um, that seems to work best uh an experience and then again the study support it Next question is from jazz fitness. What do you think about jim shark now sponsoring gamers? The shreds of athleisure wear You know what from a business standpoint. That's a good point.  Well, I'll tell you what I'll tell you what because the gamer market is That's huge massive and already we're seeing supplement companies start to target these these kids and gamers or whatever And which makes sense. Obviously, you're gonna you drink a pre-workout to work out I could totally trans transition that into pre every high caffeinated, you know Sugary drink on the planet is trying to get in the space now it makes sense.  It's funny. We're even talking about and I know I have a son who who's definitely a gamer You now feel like you belong to this group So gamers tend to talk the same lingo just like bodybuilders or powerlifters or dancers You start to speak the same lingo you start to you know talk about the same brands and game It's not that hard to get them all to start to dress very much a cult Yeah, they start to dress the same or have the same backpacks or I remember when we had the kettlebell competition here How everybody had the same brand? Bags you guys remember that remember thinking like so everybody's got never heard of this brand Yeah, this is more like a tap out Of the sport dude so smart if I owned a clothing company, I would be like no, they're I mean here's a thing like It's that they're you know the shreds of athleisure, although I really mean that I really think that The quality of what they're putting out is okay, you know at best by the way But they're smart. They're really whoever is running the marketing Is is pretty damn brilliant or whoever they've hired to do that is really really smart they go after niche markets and Of course it makes you got okay if you're a gamer you got to wear clothes You're at home all day long so comfy like athleisure type of wear You don't want you know, you're not going to see a j crew go after them.  You know I'm saying like Yeah, exactly. You're not going to wear that but you know comfy athleisure wear type of apparel is very comfortable I mean, we that's what we wear all day long like we wear athleisure wear We wear quality though But I mean, I think it's it's brilliant by gymshark, but I also think that When a company like this is so popular like shreds was in supplements when we first started the podcast Uh, you know people just assume because it's big and successful that it's good You know, we live in a time now where you know a lot of these companies that are are massive right now We're really we're just they're great business. They're great. They're smart They got into a space early and they took advantage of it You know and when I mean by gymshark being the shreds of athleisure wear Shreds dominates supplements on instagram not in the world on instagram, right?  Do you know who shreds is he would chuckle and I have no idea who that is But if you ask somebody who's into fitness that was on instagram Five years ago. Do you know who shreds is they would say absolutely because they dominated instagram Uh for supplements and the way they did that Was when everybody was first kind of getting popular on instagram and it still wasn't a thing yet Where a lot of companies were advertising and had what quote-unquote influencers They got them all they create and they created all these pages that were around fitness right all these great bodies and workout routines And then they went out and they sponsored all these young kids that were Popular and fit and ripped and they got them to push their supplements and they gave them a kickback And since the margins are so good in it they could afford to give them a little bit of money It's some decent money. So these kids were making good money by pushing these supplements Gymshark did the same thing with athleisure wear They were the first ones to get into instagram Look at all the fitness people and go. Oh, wait, there's not like a, you know, nikey and rebalk They're not in here nikey and rebalk aren't talking to influencers on it They are now small potato was small potatoes for them at the time And so a small company or they were a small company Gymshark saw this opportunity To get all of these uh fitness influencers get them wearing some gear And promoting their style. I want to see philx gray in this space. I feel like gamers. Yeah Oh, it makes perfect sense, you know, like just on the screens all day like just to to actually contribute something You know healthy in their direction to be able to uh, you know provide some bit of substance You know what I would imagine actually I I would think that there's a blue blocker that has already made their way into game Oh, I'm sure. Yeah, I know people thought of it philx gray is Are focused on apple google You know, yeah, they're working with like yeah the big dogs and and I've been doing that for a while now I don't know if they if they ever plan to go in the gaming direction Their brand feels a little more I don't know. I don't know if luxury it's it's a dude. It's such a smart move You know when I hear my son talked to his friends like there there are gamer athlete celebrities Just like when you hear people talk about you know basketball or football or baseball They know that this one player and this oh, did you see so and so they played whatever They're because it's becoming that way.  Uh highest paid gamer versus uh, the highest paid athlete They're there. Oh, yeah, but they're not like they're not like Nike isn't sponsoring Bro, huge brands now are paying these kids massive Jim shark needs like advertisements with like cheeto dust all over their clothes and you know what I mean That kind of thing to make it work But I mean it's again, it's a smart move. Um, I don't know how I guess it's just about it Like association, right? It's oh well, it also right. Okay. We we talk bad about um, what's the why can't I not think of Beachbody, okay. Yeah beachbody does billions of dollars online marketing with programs and the thing that we talk bad about it is the programs the programs are terrible They really are but that doesn't mean I think beachbody is a terrible company. That's a really smart Brilliant company. They are they're marketing geniuses and we watch what they're doing all the time to see Are there things that we can emulate but while also maintaining integrity and being authentic to who we are So that I mean they're brilliant that so sometimes these examples of these companies people assume just because they're massive and they're They're good. That doesn't mean they're necessarily good. They're good at marketing Well, my my son was breaking down for me the way that these guys these pro gamers train, you know that they'll play Some sometimes they'll play max six hours in a day and I thought I asked him I said, why don't they play more than that? It goes because they found that if they play too much it reduces their performance They also exercise regularly Some a lot of them have trainers that work on shoulder stability to help prevent them from getting forward shoulder They they work on hand eye coordination exercising special diets like bro. Look at look at those are all there's look at honda monster, yeah, twitch Hyper I mean, these are all these are a lot of money in that But look a lot of these these companies we might not have heard of so at some point It's going to be all these huge, you know brands I would imagine get much bigger than honda dude and sap and monster Are you kidding me? Those are massive That's crazy. I know in south korea. It's they have stadiums full packed Yeah, full of people watching here. They just started remember when we talked to mark mastroff He's talking about how the gamers are feeling the filling this the sacramento king stadium up more than some of the basketball You guys are going to be both you guys are going to be grandpas and you're going to be telling your grandkids When I was when I was younger we played sports in person. Yeah And we got hurt. We actually hit each other. Yeah, we got hurt, you know Like my wrist hurts. Ew. You're weird.  You can also find all of us on instagram including dug the producer You can find dug at mind pump dug you can find justin at mind pump justin me at mind pump sal and adam at mind pump adam Someone's doing a a continuous movement like a shoulder press It's really hard to get them to focus on other parts of their body while they're also pressing at the same time They're focused so much on just getting the weight over their head that they're thinking about their arms Their shoulders their upper their upper body where there is a big part of like standing overhead pressing


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