Yes, so watching the breakfast in plus TV Africa time to look at the headlines on the front pages of the national Newspapers and I'm glad to say we have legal practitioner to make all our Lee joining us on the program this morning to do justice to these headlines via phone Mr. Caller. Well a good morning to you Thanks for joining us Thank you very much. Let's Get things rolling with a punch new super that has some very interesting headlines on the front page The issue of subsidy is a lead headline there and it says subsidy and NPC may deduct over 1 Trillion Naira from FAC in six months. That's the Federation allocation accounts committee It says with the riders to that story FG plans PIA Amendment messy where Humphrey Humphrey on that yesterday extends subsidy removal by 18 months and NLC suspense protests says talks with federal government to continue and states face hard times over salary payment others Economists warn at the top of the front page of the punch Easter by this headline African Airlines passenger traffic crashes by 65% Over Omicron others details can be found on page 20 another one from the punch in his paper National assembly agrees on consensus others lists conditions and guessing that is referring to the issue of the electoral act amendment bill sent back to the president MPC experts for C tougher days as CBN retains lending rate Nigeria sinks deeper in corruption rating drops to 154 I see PC disagrees Law and meets customs DSS and SCDC over fuel smuggling reps majority leader gets 28th child lawmaker pursues 30 Amazing at the bottom of the front page of the punch Easter where we have these headlines Quarra meets Christians Muslims says hijab stays in schools Ogo Monach's murder police get clues a beard who demands killers arrests Lover demands money to transport visiting girlfriend's corpse Family alleges foul play at the bottom of the front page of the punch in his paper a family fairer plans political party insists on state police Constitution review Lagos housewife allegedly kills husband with pressing iron during argument. That's really really saddened IG 45 security as a kitty PDP a PC primaries hold today Thursday those are the headlines on the front page of the punch All right quickly. Let's turn our attention to the daily independent newspaper electoral act amendment bill nas harmonizes position on consensus candidacy Says parties must get written content of all the aspirant and That's the ride on the need the bold caption away from that 91 million Nigerians now live in poverty NESG according to that report 8 million were thrown into poverty in 2021 and there's just last year Buhari ag security agencies to leverage 5g in tackling insecurity and away from that Restructuring Niger before 2023 elections till achievable a fanny for six and you also have another head of saying six release of Sunday boo-hoo nam di Kano and Underneath you also have 2023 presidency 600 women groups declare support for Yahya bello and CBN retains benchmark interest rate at 11.5% Senate passes be all allowing colleges of education to award degrees Nigeria drops in latest transparency Corruption ranking why Buhari extended fuel subsidy removal by 18 months according to minister I mean, this is some of the headlines on the daily independent newspaper we'll straight to the nation this morning the Major headline on the front page of the nation is super and no surprise is there Subsidy extension stalls petroleum industry act. It has the following riders PIA for return to law makers Buhari or case Continuation of subsidy payment and labor suspend Suspends the protest plan At the top of the front page of the punch of the nation is super and dangote remains Africa's richest Wike accuses Amici of dumping rivers playing in Germany And now it's been a back-and-forth between the supporters of wiki and the supporters of Amici After the governor of rivers, they went to Germany with an entourage And it was having to pay some millions of dollars to repair the plane and took some pictures there So it's a highly political issue Still with the nation newspaper Over one thousand two hundred delegates to pick a kitty PDP candidate today and house leader Dogua welcomes 28th child mercy, sir That's a huge number Another one no capital flight from Nigeria says a MFLA MPC retains interest rate at 11.5% Electro bill lawmakers okay consensus with tough conditions and the rider party must obtain aspirants Written consent At the bottom of the nation newspaper's front page some old tinaboo, Obasa Morn ex-legis SSG a denny roguesa here For those of you wondering where the name sounds familiar as a street nearby with that same name and Massive endorsement for Oyetola's second term bid. There's our stories and headlines on the front page of the nation and just before we have Tunde Kola Wale join the conversation on the leadership you have Presidents Mohammed of Buhari booby traps next president Extends the PI Implementation by 18 months. I mean that's quite interesting Remember having that conversation yesterday and the fact that this would be the law turning against itself Because you have the law you cannot ignore the law sounds like you know very smart move delay will erode Investors confidence. This is what stakeholders are talking about decision hasty without stakeholders Impute NLC suspends plant protest the one wants fuel smuggling stemmed These are the riders underneath the board caption NAS passes electoral bill with direct indirect and consensus option and the central bank of Nigeria retains the MPR at 11.5% around other parameters Omicron Saudi Arabia to lead travel ban in Nigeria and you also have tension in Katsina local government over soldiers withdrawal and Dangote retains Africa's richest person with 13.9 billion our value. I mean a bigger part of billion dollar value military kills e-sweep terrorists in Burnu a strike This are the headlines on the leadership newspaper this morning All right over to a guest to make a little practitioner miss a color lead Let's start with that story on the front page of the leadership newspaper we all know and aware of the history of the Petroleum industry bill which became the Petroleum Industry Act and the Suspension of the subsidy Removal and do you agree with this description that the president which is an interesting description is booby trapping The next president by doing a U-turn on the PIA Well And Yeah to tell the national community to tell your personal staff why you think that you don't have law, you didn't take over now. Why is man in law? Why is man in law? Let's try and help the city, but the president is not the person for what? He is here to help the city. That's the man that's talking to you. Time is the source of all. Because of the opposition from the Saga-Baga party in Nigeria at their time. It's a fact that it's a reason that the committee has formed a particular sector that will be used to post-pacify for hours, in order to have a better outcome. If I say it's a factor, I don't think it's going to be anything. I think that if it was a negative factor, I think it's not going to be anything. I think it's not going to be anything. What you think is not going to be anything. I think it's going to be something. Because of the opposition, it's not going to be anything. I think it's sort of a negative factor. The boards are the leaders and I think they are connected. And then the dictatorship, people of the people of Nigeria attack them, just like the further people, it's almost like the success of the legend that this comes to the in-laws and I'm not if it was a leadership, They would have been given their students to sleep. They would have been the type of school with them. They would have given them good waterways for self-sufficiency. They would have been of their own kind of people. They would have been used without the care of getting accounts out of people, of getting things into the system on the pollution of their water and the killing of the city inside that water. All right, let's quickly turn our attention. So we have time to look at, share your thoughts on some of the issues, big stories on the dailies this morning. Let's quickly turn our attention to the Daily Independent newspaper this morning, where you have consent raised by the group at Fenty Ferry, saying restructuring Nigeria before 2023 elections still achievable. And for them, they are asking that there be, that's possible because, suggesting the adoption of the 2014 Comfab and also the 2018 Malham-Erufai Committee of the All Progressive Congress on True Federalism. Do you think that that's achievable, restructuring the Federation, because I mean it involves some constitutional amendment before 2023? We are structuring the country within one year, even without, even without fire in the store, if there is a good reason, for the truth of the matter is that you are very close to a program. We are not serious, they don't know what they are saying. I'm not to show that they are committed to this constitutional. We don't see things like this, we're doing that in the opposite way and then begin to dismiss the decision of the secretary that wants to structure it. What are permissive actions that we take to ensure that we get this constitutional? I have said it all before, we can get to the short term in so many ways, prove this for me, without any rank or permanent power. And I will give you a good example. People, for example, the World Health Region of the country side, they are both, they are two, so normally, the country, the university, they will be using the same textbooks saying they are expected to, and that they will begin to do so with us, so if they are still in the respective schools, they will lead to the short term.  And that the generalization of normal schools is a much-ending process. All these days, I will be leading to the short term without firing any shots. So there are so many other papers you can take, have permissive actions in terms of the theoretical circumstances, in terms of mobilizing your people, in terms of putting pressure on the technical sector, to conduct a referendum as regards to happening, these short term, in the different parts of the country. But they never do that. They see things they have, they see things they have to do, they start breaking those restrictions of the technical sector and then they don't even like to hear they will go to the people in notoriety, they don't hear anything they have to say, and start asking for land and money, and get money to fill their system, and land that they are looking at today. For me, I am putting up a list of things. What will be the problem at that time? Maybe it will be lack of geological underpinning. Because whatever you are doing, without the use of geological underpinning, from cultural history, from political history, from discrimination in the region and all that, they never like to go to the people. Nobody ever has an advantage with us, and we need to have an advantage and give it to the people also. And then, the people never do anything about it. For me, it is possible, it is a serious matter. And it begins to be possible. Mr. Kolawale, please, let's move on to another... Yes. Mr. Kolawale, you can win this, but there's nothing left. And that is part of the problem, so sorry, that is because you both say so. Okay, let's move on from that, Mr. Kolawale. Sorry to interrupt you there. But I would like to take your thoughts on a story that is at least true of the National Nisrpa, is one definitely on the front page of the Leadership Nisrpa. The National Assembly finally passing a harmonized Electoral Act Amendment Bill following a motion on rescission of that controversial clause 84 on the direct mode of primaries for political parties, now including direct primaries, indirect primaries, and consensus, God willing. What do you think about this, especially the fact that the National Assembly, the House of Reps passed a different one and the Senate had to come back? The National Assembly did that law not because they want a better way, a fair way of selecting the theorists of the respective political parties. They made that law, they put that law on that pressure to be seen in the dynamic scene, a case of what you can call an enlightened person. How do you mean an enlightened person? If you like, the thing that they do for that and the financials of the political parties are to eliminate the good political parties. The succession case, that was the effect of the political parties. And in order to win, in order to rescue them there, on the hands of the so-called leaders, but I would say this, and who called the shots to the party. It went on and better. That's the National Assembly. People, the Electoral Act, I repeat, and I empathize with you, putting out the different political parties to make a good, fair fact error into a enlightened law if it's wrong. It is what the people of the left have done here to put out the officials who took the law. It is the duty of the respective political parties as guided by the representatives of the left. Put aside how the difference is what they are allowed to do in the next night. Don't forget all the different political parties are not the only of the good parties. If it's not the same, it's not the same. They are members if they are not like this. When you throw that kind of a flag on them, they are going to cause chaos to the smaller people of the party. Who are the leaders, the leaders of the party? Who may organize the other party? Imagine you used to play staff. Imagine you were to pay money. Imagine you were to go to office and suddenly have to stop the government in the country, and then the different worlds to cause it. So come on direct, come on. How many of the smaller party resources should be that kind of opportunity? How many of them do have the desire to be the leader of the party? All the other parties in the party should stop the money. So if they have to pay, what they have also to do is is a recipe for care. That look, you can use a high-price, you can use staff on staff, you can use an expert, you can also use whatever government does. There is an agreement with the Supreme Constructors. And now we will look at the recipe. Let's leave the different political parties, right, as you apply the error to the match. Based on their strength, based on their democracy, based on their responsibility. But Mr. Kola, what are you saying? Yes, sir. Yeah, you say, Mr. Kola, what are you saying? The parties should be left to, you know, decide what mode of selection of their candidates. But some people have complained, you know, that they have said that rather. The inclusion of this thing called consensus, you know, mode of electing candidates may further worsen the problem of lack of internal democracy in the political parties. I disagree. Why do I disagree? When you look at the number of those partners and the finishers, who are calling the shots in the respective political parties, what is their number? Their aggregate number? Their length and length, 50% or 50% of the membership of the members of the political parties. So if only 50% of the membership of the members of the political parties would not be the one running in the back of the majority of people. You know, classes need to stand up to go back to them. And the majority will be running in the back of the minority, too. And then the democracy is going to never run in the back of the majority. Who are they to control the votes by that? They think they don't have to vote. Yes, we hope to resolve this last time. On the talk of two years, we are holding our partners to make a vote without real fighting, without realness for them. So speaking the vote, without internal democracy, we are actually going to nobody should be voting the number of people in the district. I want to emphasize that internal democracy are not either, are not the last time. What is the other party before sugar, gold, and stuff like that? You have to guide that. OK. All right. So before I move on on this issue, the conditions that the National Assembly listed as well, they're saying that the parties must get the written consent of the other aspirants for that issue of consensus to work, that the other aspirants was right, that I approve. I agree that I'm part of a consensus to have this candidate, you know, emerge. Do you think that that's basically going to fix everything that may have been perceived against you about this? Let's move away from, you know, the mode of primaries be direct, indirect and consensus. Now, and look at the issue of poverty. Now, according to the Nigerian Economic Summit group, this is actually a cry out, saying that 91 Nigerians now live in poverty. And they also said that eight million Nigerians were thrown into poverty in 2021. What are your thoughts? But let's chip this in. You also want to agree with me that, you know, the administration of President Mohammed the Buhari has been very great with their social investment program. So how come this is not trickle to reducing the rate of poverty and the fact that you see I have eight million Nigerians thrown into poverty and 91 in. You are going to be in the same place that's what happens to that. People in the sector have also wanted to do this. So that's what happens to them. What is the world of the matter? What's the problem? What was this money? Because the money is and look at the fact that I am going to stop poverty from in the world. So the world is there is a time zone. Then it's gone. And then they're going to We have to let you go at this point in time. We do apologize. Thank you so much for being part of the conversation. Yes, we are really out of time and we have to let you go. But we do appreciate your thought. It's been fantastic sharing your thoughts on some of these national issues. Who are we moving into? You too. What kind of interesting thoughts are from the legal practitioner to Nicaragua? It's the 26th of January 2022. I had to look at two remarkable events that happened today in history when we returned. We delve into our major conversations.


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We have the Dow industrials down up rather 22 Nasdaq is flat S&P is also flat gold contract down $18.60 trading at 1784 and ounce We have silver down 17 cents 23 dollars 95 cents an ounce light sweet crude up 55 cents 83 dollars 36 cents a barrel notes and bonds the 10-year flat 130 25 the 30-year up 15 at 161 and King dollar King dollar right now up 786 this thing took off like a rocket ship man 94 127 not sure what what the juice was in behind this but we'll go over it because they were pretty intense no two ways about it Euro yours at 115 the ends at 113.90 and the British pound is at 136 to 1 US dollar iPhone numbers 877 9276 648 give us a call folks Well, I know it's going on in your world and the world of the S&Ps. Let's take a look at them What do you have here at all-time highs? I think the S&P still it looks like it's negative folks But it's not it's in an all-time high. Yeah, you got it down 11 cents or something And that's only because you closed at an all-time high. Yes, they we closed at 458 point 32 and Bottom line here at 458 17 Now, let me do this Let me do this this way. I'm just curious of the S&P that that The cues are going to be a lost and golfing That's on the daily. Okay, so it's close on the weekly No, it's not on the monthly On the monthly it is. Okay, so so you have a lost and golfing on the monthly on the spy we on the on the Cues we have it on the daily weekly and monthly. So this is you know pretty intense now It doesn't mean that it has to go down but this type of signal folks, okay is a real bearish signal and This is the type of move Hey, we'll see where it goes. We'll have another contraction of volume out here today You've only done 27 million shares yesterday. We did 38 million probably do about 38 million again today Maybe 40 million You know and we'll see where it shakes out inside the end the x100 today the strength versus the weakness You have the strength out here. This this thing move beyond belief Um, the symbol is team team. He had dexcom also up 9 look at these numbers man team was up 10.12 percent dexcom up 9.6 percent ebay up 5.8 percent and Verisign up 5.5 taken away from it starbucks down 7 percent you get charter communications off 5 Gilead's off 4 and a half and baydu's off 4.3 The big dogs out here last night that came out with the numbers apple apple right now is trading at 149 The low today was 146 and let's put this on a weekly. Let's see what we got there.  We take a look at amazon. See what we got with amazon up and happening out here amazon rejected 32 73 you're 33 45 you're down 100 bucks, which means nothing in a three thousand dollar stock Yeah, that's interesting though. That's still saying it wants the lower end of his consolidation amazon So check this out, man. This is pretty amazing. How many people amazon has actually hired? Where is it? Okay? Here it is right here amazon Global workforce surged 75 percent during the pandemic to keep up with the demand And they're going to turn around so okay, they increased the numbers From 628,000 to 1.4 million workers and They are going to let's see. So you got 1.4 million right now And they're going to be hiring a slew of people for the holidays Gold gold contract out here Bottom line. They it's down 1770. We hit a low of 1772 it did reject lower price out here and bottom line. He bounced back up It's it's this this gold market man is something else. I mean it just is it's like, you know, it's like Was it I heard Was it on TD Ameritrade this morning? I think it was TD Ameritrade's show this morning, you know, they were talking about the aspect of Inflation is a transitory. Is it real? It's like It I don't even understand why there's actually Well, I understand why there's still a Conversation about it because the bottom line the Fed is trapped like rats They're trying to figure out. Okay, you know, what do we do here? You know, we get inflation raging. Okay, they start basically putting interest rates up. Well, guess what? We know interest rates go up You know, the federal government is the largest owner of debt So right off the bat, uh, I don't think that is One of the Main reasons but guess what, you know, they they know you can't strangle The economy very quickly before it even gets going and the jobs number out here Um, you know, I think it's going to be like this for quite some time Dollar good old king dollar. So let's take a look at king dollar because when you see this move This is like something else and it's look at this move, man I mean the bottom line is that, you know, you came down with conviction yesterday You go up with conviction today. So it's like, okay, which way you want to go? Hey, I can show you this this is the so the currency markets and the bond market That's what's happening in here right now because what's the the bond market also Same setup inside the bond market Um, what you have with the bond market is this is that You can see Oh, see it was it was lower, but I reject it. Oh, see the bonds went higher price, man So the 30 year what you have with the 30 year is this we were we went from 158 to 161 Then you go sideways it got lower today and you know what it rejected lower price went top side As to the Market in general, does it like inflation? Uh, I suspect what we've actually had here is that the market had picked up inflation's coming out. These are inflated numbers Um inflation inside of everything's not bad if there's a small amount not if there's huge amounts of inflation Inflation folks robs everyone just like that. Take your savings. Take your money. It disappears into inflation heaven. Stay right there folks coming back


Reassurance in UX is always the big thing. It's like making sure that the user knows that what the state is. But what they found is that by having that branded experience there, users just weren't dropping out of the funnel. What I've noticed with payments in e-commerce, there seems to be a challenge between developer interests and business interests and where they meet in the middle. Developers want to use the most latest tech but have problems convincing business to why to use it, whether it's offline patterns or whatnot. Would you feel about where business and our interests meet as it were? Yeah, I think it's a key thing. Developers do get excited about doing code and about solving these complicated technical problems. It can be a challenge to actually make sure that that translates into something that is going to help the business make money in the end as well. So something I've really been trying to focus on is helping developers with that communication step. How do you take the technical stuff that you want to do and actually frame it in a sense where you can say, this is going to affect our bottom line. This is going to make more money for us. This is going to increase conversion or this is going to drive repeat visitors to the site. So looking at things where it's like don't get super wrapped up in this amazing technical implementation but actually turn it into something that is going to help get you paid. Yes. Is there any techniques which developers really want to push for without necessarily make sense from a business UX point of view? Because I can see like having large images is there's a downside to it in the context of people who often are uploading stuff, adding products to e-commerce sites. They're not technical people necessarily. They're just getting on with their job. So how do you create a situation where performance becomes like a business? Interesting. And how do developers convince business that this is an important thing rather than this is just the coolest latest fad? Yeah. I think we've been pretty good with pushing the message of performance has an impact on your bottom line. There are loads of metrics out there that we've shown people multiple times that if you make people wait more than three seconds, you're going to lose 53% of your audience. Amazon did the one where they were showing for like each microsecond that you were waiting, you were losing a percentage of people away from the site, which is really nice but it's a very blunt tool. Performance cannot just be applied as this kind of one size fits all to every single solution. So a lot of it's about getting developers thinking in a more nuanced way about the problem that they're actually solving with performance and whether they're making a lasting solution as well. So where you're talking about images, we've seen this a couple of times where like developers will put the work in to fix the site as it currently is. So they'll go through them, make sure that the images are optimized, that they've got multiple versions hosted for appropriate devices and so on. But then as soon as the next sale rolls around like Black Friday comes in, suddenly it's like panic stations. So everybody just uploads all of the like raw catalog images again and it all just goes back to the way it was. So the key thing there is like it's not about getting those results right now, it's about how you actually work that into the process.  Like you want to strip out the geo data from it so that it's not like telling the internet where I live. Those are the points where you should be looking at okay, in there can we actually put the image processing in so that we're also creating the optimized versions and that we include some kind of sign off flow so that product and marketing can actually take a look at those images and go yeah, we're happy that the optimizations haven't actually affected the quality levels that we care about. So there's any tools that sort of teams can actually use to implement to basically because it's not just about creating a great e-commerce site, but it's creating a process and tool set for the people who are actually working on the back end side of stuff all like just content management. Is there anything that developers can actually look at? I think that's probably the challenge here is that it's actually, it's pretty straightforward to do the one off optimizations and we can give you like a tool where we can say hey, this works like this just like just go ahead, run it and go. But building it into your process is a harder task so there's not necessarily kind of like your business yeah, can do this. It is one of the reasons that we're we're starting to do more things like talk with CMSs like Drupal, WordPress, Magento and so on to kind of say hey, can we actually look at where these things would fit in? Like is there a plug-in that can be used? So that's normally the the technique I suggest is like take a look at who's common to what you're doing already and try and steal the good ideas from them to something like that. Contextual to their process rather than trying to you know somehow hack in, opt in or whatever tool into there. Yeah, that's like a common problem that we sometimes run into is like I'll a spouse like hey, this is all like really good advice and people people want a single right answer. They just they kind of say it's like hey, what framework should we use or what library should we use? The answer is always so it depends. We I mean everyone wants the answer. It's like what's the meaning of life you know. So I mean we're talking about performance but there's also offline and offline is and the UX of offline is something I've been pushing but one of the things is that we've had to be honest with some of the people that we work with say okay offline is great, it's brilliant but it's not the one bullet and it doesn't fix everyone's problem and maybe there are cases where offline doesn't actually apply or work but it's that it's the new shiny thing and I think developers also have the same challenge of all right how do you convince businesses that offline is the way forward like what's the metric that you're using because we spoke about this before it's like the one metric is sales for e-commerce sites but how would you actually translate offline stuff in that sense like is it worth doing offline for everyone? I mean I think it depends on the business again because that's who the people who have often sign off and are not technical. I think it's one of those ones where I wish we could have gone back and stopped ourselves from using the term offline first because it really set the whole discussion as this kind of view of it as a binary state right here online or offline and it also made people think about it in terms of the feature again rather than the problem that they were solving with it so what I would really suggest is that you're not thinking about offline you're going through each stage in like your funnel or your path to purchase and you're thinking about how you can change that positively by weaving in aspects of like resilience to network connections or or total offline because there's a tendency when you demo stuff like this to you know switch your phone into airplane mode so that you can say hey I'm offline now but in real life that doesn't actually happen most of the time it's like you're going into the tube or you've just popped into a lift so in places like that some of the key things I focus on are either making it so that the user doesn't notice that their connection's been interrupted so those are things like if I'm adding to my basket that's an action where if it doesn't go through to the server you can actually capture that and just wait until you have a reliable connection like either looking at the network information or just pulling like a little heartbeat with your server and in those situations that's great because it's not like a high risk operation I don't have to do too much conflict resolution when I come back online it's like it's in my basket or it's not if it's not that's not the end of the world either then the other ones are actually like intentional offline and for things like that I consider that to be stuff like if I've saved a shopping list then you know what I'm on the tube home I might actually want to check that shopping list to see like oh yeah did I add the eggs to that or I'm looking through my order history those are great candidates for saving like onto your device because your order history doesn't change and it's something that you might actually want to refer back to if you're yeah like you're kind of trying to work out it's like ah did I buy my friend socks for their birthday last year it's like oh well I can just hop in I can check and it's one of those ones where your that then allows you to sell it not just in terms of like the robustness but also in terms of performance because if it's offline it's just available I think one of my favorite ones there for the robustness story is the Travaga one they implemented like a really simple offline fallback page so whenever your connection doesn't go through they just show you this error page at what error page is a sort of unfair name for it's actually like a little javascript game like one of those marble rolling ones through the maze and when I first saw it I was kind of like this is a developer's Friday afternoon project where they've kind of had some fun and puts like this novelty thing up there but what I came to appreciate when they shared the figures is that actually it's keeping people in the journey so when someone previously when someone would lose their connection or a request would fail they'd just drop out but now what happens is they see this branded Travago experience and a message telling them that hey your connection's down but we're going to try again in a little bit and it means that actually they were seeing way less people fall out of their funnel and it's just it's just one of these things where just having that branding in there it's small and it's simple but the effect that it has is just so much more significant what tends to happen in companies is that people hire eventually they realize that they can't do design without a designer so they hire a designer and then the designer says right it's hard for me to do design without the research findings and to really understand the context I'm working in so that's the kind of like pattern it tends to happen in it would be nice from my perspective if it worked the other way around