They want you to self-love. They want you to feel as though you're not good enough. The narcissist will constantly criticize you. They will focus on your faults and make you feel as though everything you do is wrong. They will make you feel as though you're not good enough for anything. When you are engaged in a project or activity, they will make you feel as though you shouldn't waste your time and energy. They will make you question your own qualities and abilities. They will make you believe that you are defective, which will then cause you to lack motivation. You will no longer desire or be willing to engage in those activities. You will lose enthusiasm because you have been led to believe that you are incapable of producing a worthwhile result. This can affect your self-esteem and make you feel worthless and insignificant. Our progress is linked to our happiness and our happiness is linked to our productivity. So this can create the downward spiral where you become less productive and more depressed. It causes you to lose hope or courage. It discourages you from taking action because now you feel like you're not good enough. You feel like you're unworthy or undeserving of good things in life.  It is very beneficial for them. They hope that by you feeling like you're not good enough, you won't try to leave. You won't consider that you deserve more or better. Instead, you will remain around the narcissist and try to prove yourself to them. You will try to seek their validation because they have made you believe that you're not good enough. This is what we call the trauma bond. You feel stuck and powerless in the relationship. You feel as though you can't do anything right but you try to make the best of it. You keep trying to please this unpleasable person in the hopes that you will be rewarded and when you do what they want, they will often reward you. It may only be crumbs but it seems like a lot more than what it actually is because you're so used to being abused and being told that you're not good enough. So when you finally receive the crumbs, you feel like you've done something right. It makes you want to try harder. It puts you on this endless hamster wheel of trying to chase their validation but in the back of your mind, you still believe that you're not enough as though you have to continue to meet this person's demands in the hopes that one day they will validate you and this is exactly what they want.  They want you to keep trying. Keep trying to please them. It also distracts you from looking at yourself and realizing that you're not getting your needs met. You are trained to neglect yourself and gradually your health begins to deteriorate. You no longer see yourself in the same way. You no longer do the things that you used to enjoy doing as time goes by. You may no longer recognize yourself. You don't even know who you are anymore because the narcissist has managed to turn you into their own personal workhorse. You've been doing everything you can to please them. You've been doing everything you can to support them emotionally while being told that you don't do anything or what you do isn't good enough which only makes you devote more and more of your time and energy to fulfilling their demands to the point where you have no time left for yourself.  Your every waking moment revolves around pleasing this person or providing for them while being told that everything you're doing isn't enough. It just makes you feel stuck. It just makes you feel like your only option in this situation is to work as hard as you can just to receive what little crumbs they are willing to give to you. You don't ever question their authority.  You just carry on with the program they have laid out for you in the hopes that one day you will get it right as long as you are around the narcissist. You will always lack self-love. You will always feel as though you're not enough because anyone who even questions that they may be worth more than what the narcissist has led them to believe is not going to stick around.  These emotions which is projected onto you by the narcissist they disown these parts which belong to them because they hate themselves. They see you as a negative extension of them which is why they have to assign these traits onto you.  They are the ones who feel as though they are not enough. They disguise this with an exaggerated sense of their own abilities and importance. But beneath that is a person who is very insecure and feels worthless and insignificant which is why they have to influence and control you. They have to maintain authority over you because they are doing this to regulate their false sense of selves and that is why they are so dependent on you. That is why they cannot leave you alone even though they proclaim that you are bad or not good enough for them. You are enough. You are worth so much more than what the narcissist has led you to believe. Just remember who you were before you met the narcissist. Just remember how capable you were back then. How easy everything was. That's the person you really are. Not this collection of the narcissist's unwanted parts that has nothing to do with you. So recognize this and understand that you are worthy of love. You can love yourself and you can be proud of your progress and accomplishments. Don't seek validation from the narcissist. Validate yourself. Don't expect love from a person who is full of hate. Thank you for watching. I hope this video read to you with you. Please like, comment, share and subscribe. Click the bell icon to receive notifications for my future videos. If you like to donate, my paypal link is in the video description. 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We demystify what goes on behind the therapy room door. Join us on this voyage of discovery and co-creative conversations. This is The Therapy Show, behind closed doors podcast, with Bob Cook and Jackie Jones. Welcome back to a very special episode of The Therapy Show behind closed doors with myself, Jackie Jones and Bob Cook. And this is the 52nd episode. We've done 12 months, Bob. My God. Yeah, I must look back at the, because podcasts get played in my Bob Cook YouTube channel. I must look back and see if I was so youthful back back then. We were raised in these podcasts. We were. I just think the last 12 months, the things that we've been through, you know, individually as a nation, the world, everything. Surprising. Would I would never have guessed half of that stuff would have happened 12 months ago? No. No. So what we're going to be talking about kind of relates to that. The courage to be human in the therapy process. Yeah, what a wonderful title. I wonder who came up with that title. Very intelligent person, somebody with lots of intelligence and integrity and everything. Absolutely, Jackie. Yes, I picked the title mainly because I think it takes so much courage to come to therapy. Now, you know, it's interesting if I ever say that to clients, most clients just dismiss that and they minimise that quality. And many may just say, well, the discomfort has, you know, got so high. There's nothing else I could do. And that might be true. And at the same time, takes lots of courage. So I sort of want to applaud that in this podcast in a way, because I think it does take a lot of courage to come to therapy. Yeah. And it takes a lot of courage as well to go to the places that therapists often invite the clients to go to in the service of cure. Yeah. Yeah, because I can remember my first therapy session. And it's really daunting. You know, you might not have met that person before. You might not know what they look like. You know, I was really stressed just about how to get to the Manchester Institute when I first started, you know what I mean, and parking. And literally, I was worried about everything. Never mind what would happen in the therapy room. Yeah, that's true. I think it's very common. And for myself, when I went to therapy, I remember dismissing that concept when my therapist said I was very brave or very courageous to come to therapy. And I said, I was one of those people who said, Oh, no, I just, you know, I had to come because there was no other way. But you know, in that process, I minimized the actual strength of character I had to come to therapy and to stay in therapy and to work through these things and to be able to go to those places of vulnerability. So I think it does take a lot of courage to come to therapy. Yeah. And I know many people are, well, I had to, you know, I did psychotherapy training, so I had to go in therapy, but I still think that takes a lot of strength of character and courage to come to therapy in the first place. And certainly to go to those dark places we often hide from. Yeah. It's not something that any of us want to jump into those dark places. We kind of teacher on the edges for quite a while. So that begs the question, of course, is how can we do this in the first place? And there is something true in the sentence, I believe, that I made all those years ago when I said, well, the discomfort was so high that I just had to go to therapy. I think that's true. And it still doesn't take away the fact that many people don't come. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, I don't want to minimize the process of our own qualities and strength of character for clients that come through those doors in the first place, including you, whether you have the stress of parking your car or not. Yeah. And it was very stressful. I don't like Manchester. I live in a little village where there's just one road in and one road out and Manchester is just too busy for me. Do you think, the title of this, the courage to be human in the therapy process, do you think as human beings, we always aim to get back to balance? That's something that we're always trying to do. Yes, I think we're always striving to come to balance and always striving to come to some form of integration. Yeah. But we're just getting our own way a lot of the time with all the overthinking and all the... Yes. And in an earlier podcast, I talked about script. Yeah. And I think we follow a determined light plan that we made for survival purposes. So it's quite hard to change all those for all the reasons I've said in the podcast before. So I'm not going to go through them again. However, I do think there's an intrinsic process around balance, which the human organism is always striving to complete, if you like. Yeah. Which I think that's nice to know is that, underneath everything, that's what we all want, is to get back to balance. Yeah. Some modern theorists or therapists, or I don't even know what to be a therapist, might say what I'm going to say. They might say in another way and say, develop a sense of well-being. Yeah. And I think you're right. A sense of well-being demands balance. Yeah. The bones in and young. Yeah, definitely. And often we look outside for something to blame how we're feeling on. It's because, you know, I've just gone through a breakup or it's because my mum and dad got divorced when I was 10, or it's because of this, that and the other, to a certain extent, potentially as a bearing on it, you know, but we're the ones that need to make a change. We can't change the past, unfortunately. If we could, I think a lot of us would change a lot of it. Yeah, we know what we can do. We can change our response to a past. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's a completely different thing. Yeah. But in doing that, we often have to go to these darker places I was talking about. And that's what I'm saying, humanity. Unfortunately or fortunately, whichever way we look at this, there's light and darkness over human condition. And I do think it's brave to go to those places. It's brave to be human with all those dark places and light places or warts or whatever we want to describe us, human organisms as, because it just takes a lot of courage, I do believe that, to be human in the thirdly process, to be there, to go to the dark places, to stay in the process takes a lot of courage. Yeah. Because, you know, it's light and dark and ying and yang and everything. When you think about it, we can't be happy 100% of the time. There's always going to be some down moments. And I think sometimes, clients want to squish it all up so that they're, you know, I can cope without the highs if it means I'm not going to come down. So they kind of try to squash everything. But I was, I think reframing is a really important quality to for therapists to learn. So when somebody says happy, I was reframing that because I don't know what happiness means. So I usually say, what's happening? And then they might say, actually, what I usually say sometimes, what does happiness mean? And before they answer, I say, do you mean something like contentment? Yeah. Because that's much more balanced. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And I do believe in balance and integration as a way of going forward. But we need to, to do that, we need to go to both sides of the process, the dark and light side to get a sense of equilibrium, if you like. Yeah. Or even, you know, when we're in those places. True. Yeah. And they are, it's like a moving target because they, you know, we are constantly moving from one emotion to the other to a certain extent. And emotions, they're very confusing, Bob. You know, what I think is being happy and what somebody else, happy, what is happy? When you said that question, you know, what, what is it? It's not a thing, is it? You can't put it in a wheelbarrow and wheel it off. It's, I don't know what it is half the time. Well, I went for lunch with a dear friend of mine today. And she said, how are you, Bob? And now when somebody says that, it's like, interesting how you can respond back. Yeah. I responded back. Well, actually, I feel quite well. I answered back physically, not emotionally. Yeah. I feel quite well and rested. But you know, I'll think of your question. I think I did feel quite balanced inside myself. I could have given an emotional response back, but I felt quite contented. So that's the way I answered. And what a lovely way to answer. Yeah. Yeah. But you are right. I think that people in the, you know, whole road for, you know, change, if you like, they need to find balance and then integration. Yeah, I agree with you that. And it takes a lot of courage in that human. Yeah. Yeah. And in order, you know, to be, I'm not sure whether I've said this in previous podcasts, but, you know, in order to be vulnerable, we have to be courageous. I think the two come hand in hand. I don't think you can, you know, be vulnerable without being courageous, because it is something where was kind of stripped bare to a certain extent. I'm not sure whether there's any other area or room that feels like the therapy room where you are by choice, vulnerable. I agree with you. And I think another really important thing a therapist needs to do in a clinical sense and serve of the client is to applaud a person when they're courageous. Yeah. To validate them. Now they may not hear it, they may feel too overwhelmed to take it on board, but I think it's a good habit to get into. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of the time, I think clients are quite shocked when you say that and you point it out. Many times. There's a wonderful book.  And it's talk about the courage to go to those dark places in the service of healing and not being able to go there or having the courage to go there. The process just continues. Yeah. Courage to Heal. I know it's about working with sexual abuse and trauma. However, I think I very much like the title and I'm a great believer in that title. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. And as, you know, as therapists, whatever area we work in, I think it's an honor to be, you know, on the journey. I know we spoke about it in the last podcast to be on that journey with somebody that is, you know, healing and vulnerable and courageous. You see, it's an honor. It is an honor. He said to me in one of the podcasts, it wasn't the last one. Maybe it's toothy. He said something about taking words completely, but he says something like, oh, people just see being a therapist, talking to people or chatting to them. And you see, I would call that past timing. But if you actually go into places and asking people to go to dark places of vulnerability, then I think it takes a completely different process and courage has to be there. Yeah. I think a lot of the times friends of mine, you know, if I say something on a night out, they'll say, oh, are you trying to give me therapy? And I'm like, no, because you've not paid me for one and two. This is nothing like therapy unless they've been to therapy. They don't know what therapy is. No, they don't have, not at all. They have their own projections on that. Yeah. Yeah. I would love to take some of my friends in the therapy room and give them a proper session and say that's what therapy is. It's exhausting sometimes. It's very, I see, I think to be human is often a courageous part of this. But to be human in the visibility or with someone else is another story as well. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is that about protection? Is it fundamentally part of being a human being to not be vulnerable and to protect ourselves? Oh, I think to defend, you know, I think the natural defences that you have are to keep us safe, secure and to get by in life. And we will do what we need to do to survive in that way. And that might be to do many of the things which are not, which get us by but actually aren't healthy. Yeah.   Yeah. Yeah. I've been interviewing people for focus to be, in other words, to go on off for your training program. Very well, Bob. Except the 12 people. I was thinking today when I accepted this person, you know, and in this conversation that we're talking about now, it actually also takes a lot of courage to be a therapist. Yeah. To go and train to be a therapist because as I explained to the people as they go along, there's different paths to be a therapist, but you need to have your own therapy. Yeah. And you need to see that as the top priority to actually become an excellent therapist, which will mean going to part of yourself pups that you haven't been for a while. And it's, I think, though they may not think about it, this is what I talk about at the interview process, it actually takes a lot of courage. Yeah. Yeah. To go along the path to train to be a therapist because of the therapy they have to have themselves. Yeah. And, you know, it's about trusting as well, you know, when you're in that process. Oh, that's a big one.  It's coming with a big word there, trust. Yeah. It is. It is a big word. And I think it plays out a lot, you know, when we're bringing the past into the present. I think trust, trusting another person and trusting ourselves is a big issue. Yes, it's a very big topic and I hope we're going to have a podcast on it, but to trust ourselves enough to be courage, to be courageous with another person and in terms of of, you know, transplants with our vulnerability and authenticity and spontaneity is one big process. Yeah. Jackie. Yeah. And there's an awful lot of people out there now with social media and, you know, Instagram and, you know, all that word. They're not real a lot of the time. They only show people what it is that they want people to see. And I think the younger generation, particularly, are even less likely to be vulnerable and authentic and show parts of themselves. Even with the advent of Zoom therapy. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's, you know, it's a big thing to be real and literally in the therapy room, we both are laid birth to a certain extent. There's, I don't know, I wanted to say then there's nothing to prove in the therapy room, but I think sometimes maybe clients think there is. And therapists. Yeah. Yeah. Who are driven by their own ego often. In fact, it's interesting, isn't it?  I know. One of the problems in therapy is egos. It's not, and it's not just clients. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. And therapists need to leave their ego outside the room. And not to tend to be a perfect therapist, which is quite often the trap beginning therapists fall into, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's courageous. Yeah. Because we don't have all the answers. I certainly don't have all the answers. Well, there aren't any answers really. I mean, it's more, you know, biggest thing is being courageous enough as a therapist to help the other person sitting next to you to be courageous and trusting and all the things we're talking about as well. So it's like to, yeah, to have one house to be called a therapist and the other one house to be called a client. Yeah. Basically, it's two humans meeting in the service of the client really. Yeah, definitely. That's lovely. So being a human being, it's a tricky old thing, Bob. It's a very tricky thing. I'm not sure I've quite got the art of it, but it's a very tricky thing indeed. I quite agree with you on that. Yeah. No, but it is. I talk about being human a lot of the time and I think we do get in our own way, you know, and when we started off this about talking about being imbalanced, I think our, you know, our mind, body and soul is constantly looking to get back to balance. You know, sometimes I think people think that the mind or the thoughts or life is out to get them. No, I think you're absolutely correct.  First, we'll be aware of that and help them on the road to have a life which is balanced and harmonious. Yeah.   But you know, in the end, we're only in charge of our own responses. Yeah. And if a therapist can help the person be aware of that and go down that road, take ownership of their own responses and the control of life, then that's a wonderful thing. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. Definitely. We have a choice in everything. I think the first step is to have an awareness around it. And then the second is that, you know, we have choices. I couldn't agree more. Thank you for that one, Bob. So the next episode is 53, believe it or not, and I was organised. I've got a title. Do you want me to tell you what one of them is? Tell me what the title is. The importance of intuition in the therapy room. Oh, one of them. This will be one of my favourite podcasts. I'm sure of that. My intuition is already saying that. I love it. You've got a very good intuition, Bob. Yeah. I love this podcast. I look forward to this. Okie dokie. So I shall see you on the next episode when we're talking all about intuition. Yeah, we'll take care. You too. Have a good week. Bye. You've been listening to The Therapy Show behind closed doors podcast. We hope you enjoyed the show. Don't forget to subscribe and leave us a review. We'll be back next week with another episode.


Firing force with a sheet of light across the dust and the high high old silver! The lone ranger! Faithful Indian companion cuddle, the daring and resourceful mask rider of the planes led the fight for law and order in the early west in United States. Nowhere in the pages of history can one find a greater champion of justice. Return with us now to those thrilling days of yesteryear. From out of the past come the thundering hoofbeats of the Great Horse River! The lone ranger rides again! For fear, the physical ill see! The ranger watched the gathering storm as he rolled its top speed toward a camp in the woods, not far from Trigger Bend. The Indian had been in town when the speed coach arrived, with one of several passengers holding the reins. Both the guard and the driver were dead. The mask man saw Tuttle coming. He was on his feet when the Indian drew rain. You've been traveling fast, Tuttle. That's why he's come to see the hubby. You come. Tell me about it, I'll tell you soon. Did something happen inside? No. Westbound stage held up. Guard, driver killed. Our passengers. That is so easy. There are three passengers. All tell different stories to Cheryl. What do they say? Well, one say, two cook hold up stage. Other passengers say, maybe three, four men hold up stage. And the third passengers have been saved. Big game. Cheryl taught now how to get straight story. Where did the robbery take place? The devil rocked. Rain comes soon. Wash away all sign before Cheryl finished asking questions. Get Posse ready. Well, that's why you came here on the devil. Good for you, Tuttle. We start right away. We may be able to find tracks. There are no stagecoach robbery for a long time. Maybe this new game starts. We may be right. If it is a new game, this is a time to smash it. Two or three successful robberies make it possible for a game to recruit new members who become too powerful. There, I'm ready. Ready, set, easy, go. One, two, three, let's go. The devil rock ahead of the sheriff, but not ahead of rain. By the time they found tracks that pointed out the place where the stagecoach had been halted, the rain was falling steadily. They got here just in time, Tuttle. A few minutes smaller, and then no tracks at all. Isn't that right? As I can see, there are only two men involved in the whole list. Two men and two horses. The man must have wedged an ambush right beneath these trees. A candy footprint here. Two different kinds of boots. Here's something, Tuttle. One of the horses switched his tail against his tree. With a long hair. A black horse. At least one with a black tail. The roof marks seem to lead north. Then let's head for Badlands. I don't know how far we can follow the tracks, but we'll start. Thanks. Nearly washed out now. My time sheriff gets here. Have you none left? Come on, Tuttle. Let's see if we can find peace. Ready, set, easy, go. Jeb Peterson owned a small ranch not far from town. When his daughter married Tom Morton, Tom became a well-liked member of the family. The family was at supper, and for the first time since the wedding, Jane was absent. She had gone to visit her aunt. The table sure seems better with day gone. It sure does, Tom. Tom declared things like she's been gone for 24 days instead of 24 hours. Yes. Yes. There's something wrong, man. Wrong? You've hardly touched your food. I guess I miss better. Tom, this is that tool. Is that easy? Something is wrong, Dad. What is it? Nothing. Nothing at all. I guess I was thinking of that stage hold up. The murder of the guard driver. Someone's outside. Maybe Jane's come home early and she plans. It's the door. I'll go. Good evening, Sheriff. I'll step in for a minute or two. I'm all right. Well, Jeb, look where you suggest hitting the round part of it. Take a look at this, Tommy. Tell me if you recognize it. The wallet? No, I never saw it before. How about this watch? Have you ever seen this? No. Why? Well, let me take a look at this. That's my knife. You admit it, eh? Of course. Why, shouldn't I? I'll get you ready.  Yeah. What up? I may ask some questions, Tom. Where are you, um, three o'clock this afternoon? Three? Uh, let me see. Oh, yeah. I was on the soft line checking fence wire. Can you prove it? Well, no. Why should I have to prove it?  Tom! What? Even as you've got no alibi. I'll have to put you under arrest. Sheriff, you must be local. What's the stage, brothers? We're the black bin, Danny, from the mask. All the passengers agree on that. Your mask was found near the stick-up. This watch and wallet and a few other things were taken from the passengers. I found it near the mask. I can see where you wouldn't want to be cut with them in your position. Oh, now, see, here's Sheriff. But, Jim, tell him he's crazy. I can't do that, Tom. You'll have to face the music. But, Jim! No use lying, Tom. You mean to say you think I robbed that stage? Now, you don't blame while you weren't near the line fence at 3 o'clock. I don't blame while I was. I thought you planned to check line fence. I was surprised when I saw you right in past the town. Right in past town? I saw you, son. I wondered why you'd left the job, so I followed along at a good distance. You were a couple of miles ahead of me around the bend in the stage trail when I heard gunplay. You're all at town, and I lied! The stage came with them past me with a passenger handling the reins. I kept going. When I rounded the bend, I saw you hiding something near some bushes next to the road. Jeb! Jeb, what in the world's gotten into you? You'll make a net up out of whole cloth. You're lying in every word.  Well, Tom!  I can see why he's doing it. I put all my savings into this ranch when I married Jane. I peered off the debts and bought cattle so that I'd be half-owner. Now the whole thing will be Jeb's if I hang him. No, Tom. No, that's not... Talk to me, you mealy-mouthed old goat! You have tickets to town, Tom. You ready to go? All right.  Tom, you've got to tell Jane I'm a killer! See what she says. Then you just see what she calls you. When she hears I'm charged with murder, because of your lies! Well, over in Jordan, Tahoe had returned to her camp after the tracks of the holdup men were washed out by the rain. The following morning, Tahoe went into town. He stood around unobtrusively and learned that Tom had spent the night in jail. And he learned other things that he reported when he rejoined the masked man in camp. Page, passengers. All go to Jane and look at Tom Wharton. Did they say he looked like one of the outlaws? All say he's same size. No one see-paste in holdup. Face covered by bandana. There you go. You said Tom's life had been found in the holdup. Did Tom say anything about that? Well, him, Blaine, Jeb Peterson. Oh, it's probably not. Ah, Blaine Jeb, fix Blaine up. I know of Jeb Peterson. I don't believe he'd do anything like that. Probably when was Tom arrested? Well, Sheriff, take him from the ranch house last night. Just before dark. Just before dark? Are you sure? Well, that's what Sheriff tell other people in town. We followed the tracks of the killers in the bad lands as long as we could see them. But Tom Wharton had made those tracks. He couldn't possibly have been in the Peterson's house before dark. That's right. Furthermore, we didn't find any knife in the holdup. Must have been placed there after we left. Ah. I know. I think Tom was framed. At least we know he was not one of the outlaws. We're the only ones who know it. We're the only ones who saw the tracks before they were washed out by rain. Up to us to act. You think Jeb framed Tom? I'm going to talk to Jeb. Are you sure? Right in the cinch. Jeb, not at branch now. Oh. You know where he is? He's in town. And we'll see him in town. All right. I'll let him come on. He's got it. He's got it.  Old Jeb Peterson sat at the table in the rear corner of the cafe. His eyes were red from lack of sleep and his face was set in lines of worry and despair. He looked up with disinterest as two men came to the table. Yeah. Sit down, Red. Check for the old man. All right. Leave me alone, boss. I've done all you told me to. What did you tell this year? What's the difference? Tom's in jail, isn't he? Bart asked what you told this year. Answer up. I said I'd seen Tom hiding something. That's what you told me to tell him. Now Tom's in jail. He kept my part of the bargain. When are you going to keep yours? As soon as Tom hangs, then they'll all be sad. For you, the killer is paid. Well, that may be weeks. Not around here, Jim. It all works fast. You can't let the girls know before you hang. You might change your story. Is Jean all right? You said you'd prove she was all right. Here's the phone from her saying she'd been hurt.  But she can't tell about being captured. Name you too. He'd go to Jim. She hasn't seen her face. She can't make trouble for us. We'll let her go when the hanging's over. I just hope that you don't worry. Come on, Red. Let's go with a crystal palette. All right. We'll be seeing you, Jeff. A few moments after Barton Red had left the table, Toto approached the hot-sick old man. You, Jim Peterson? Yes. Yeah, I'm Peterson. Where do you want him? Well, you come out in back. Ben there, one top. Well, you not know him, but he's Ben. You come. Jeb followed Toto to the rear of the cafe and crossed to the saddle shed where the low ranger stood with scald and silver and a couple of other horses. One was a big black. You're nice. That's why I didn't hear you speak to you inside. But I... Toto told you I was a friend. You're on the loving. That's true. Uh, who owned this black horse? Why? Why do you ask that? I'm just wondering. Hey, go! Go to him! Jim, Jeff! Why do you do that, heart? Come on, Jeb, we're coming. No, he's not. Let me down. Go in there. You're running with me. Come on, go in there. Let me down. There's a fire. One, two, three. Oh! Yes, he was masked. Catch it, Jeb. I'll throw something away. No, no, no. It was your fire. You might tell, Jeb. Get the lizard testifier against Tom Warden. Very much. We'll try to catch that masked man. Get him!  The curtain falls on the first act of our low ranger adventure. Before the next exciting scene, please permit us to pause for just a few moments. Jeb Peterson had no chance to resist. The low ranger grabbed him suddenly and rolled carrying the old rancher on the Great Horse Silver. Tom followed close behind. Red and bark were quickly out-distance. Then the masked man halted in an isolated gully. He questioned Jeb at length. At first, the old man was evasive, but he finally told about the evidence that had caused Tom Warden's arrest. You saw Tom hide the wallet and the other things taken from the passengers? Yes. And I came back to town and told the sheriff. Then I went with him in the posse and showed where I'd seen Tom hiding something in the bushes. They found his knife. He dropped it there. I know. We didn't take Tom to look for anything hidden in the bushes. Am I right? What's that? Jeb, you might have been a stretcher ahead of time just what to tell the sheriff. Huh? You might have taken a knife in Tom's bedroom and left it near those bushes. But why? To frame Tom. You see, we know that Tom was not one of the robbers. I and I were there before rain washed out the tracks. We followed the hoof march as the horse was ridden by the outlaws of the badlands. If Tom had been one of those men, he couldn't possibly have had time to reach your home before dark. But I... I asked you about a black horse in the cafe. Yeah. That horse was ridden by one of the killers. You see two men in cafe saying to chase us. I don't know what to say. What did you lie about, Tom? Did those two men make you do it? Please, don't make me tell no more. What did your daughters say when you sent Tom to jail? My daughter. Janie. My little girl. I don't know what she'll say. Then she doesn't know. She'll turn on me. The same as my wife. She'll hate me. Let's have the real story, Jeb. You're in trouble. More than you can handle. You're helping two men get away with murder. They must be clever men to trap you like this. They must be clever enough to start a new gang, a powerful gang. I was just sure I could trust you. Try it. I've got to. You're right. Those two are the hold up men. They're called Red and Bart. Go ahead. Jeb and my daughter. She set out to spend a week with her aunt and old rim. Red and Bart, they captured her. They're hiding her away. They planned to stick up a stagecoach. They were smart enough to know that the Lord had to be satisfied. Someone had to hang. But they made you frame, Tom. It was better they'd killed Janie. Tom was a life of a host. What choice do they have? You had proof that the girl was captured? Yeah, they showed me nose phone. I got them here. Let me see them. Yeah. I know Tom would be willing to die for Janie. He said so many a time. I'd do the same.  The way he looked at me when I took him away. Love that boy like he was my own son. He'd be free if you told the truth. And Red and Bart would be jailed. But Jane, she'd die. No one knows where they got her. She needed to be killed but the power of those cooks should starve to death. Yeah, maybe something can be done. I don't know what it would be. These notes from your daughter give me an idea. Yeah. What is it? Maybe we can trick Red and Bart into revealing where Jane is hidden. I forget when they get away from those poor cats. Time is my the short. Go back to town, Jeb. When Red and Bart asked questions about the masked man who made off with you just said it was a mistake. Tell them I got the wrong man. Yeah. But then what? Leave the rest to Tuttle and me. Tuttle. Uh-huh. I want to disguise. Get the old clothes and the saddlebags. I'll wear the false beard. I'll dress like an old desert rat. Then I'll write a note. I'll try to copy Jane's handwriting. By mid-afternoon, the news of Tom's arrest had spread to ranches on all sides of town. And in town, everyone was talking about the case. There seemed to be no doubt about Tom's guilt. Bart and Red were standing in front of the cafe on the lone ranger dismounted at a nearby hip trail. He was disguised as an old desert rat with tattered clothing and a scraggly beard. A great horse, Silver, with an old saddle, was sprouted in spree with dirt and mud. In the news of a murder trial, he brings a lot of stringies in the town. Look at the old desert rat. Howdy, pop. Did you come to town for the trial? Howdy, youngster. How do you do?  Maybe you could direct me to the Peterson Ranch. The Peterson Ranch? Maybe it's called the Morton Ranch. Don't rightly know. Now, if you could... Why do you want to go there? Well, you see, got me a letter in here. Got it in one of my pockets. Here it is. Let me see it. Thanks, sir. Where'd you get this? I didn't even snatch it. I said, where'd you get it? I don't see here, mister. I don't have to answer your questions. Maybe a bit in the cell, I got that letter. Got it, that's all. It's worth a dollar to me. A dollar me? How's that? It's very toxic to me, sir. Mr. Peterson and Mr. Morton give me a dollar if I take it to the ranch. If you just tell me how to... Here, I'll give you the dollar. Well, that's mighty kind of you. I'll be singing, Peterson. I'll give it to you. Thank you, young man. Thank you, kindly. I'm going to see what this here dollar will buy. Yeah, look at this note. Looks like James Handrighton. Listen to this. He says, I'm my way to old room. I was captured. I'm being held prisoner. The man who brings you this note can lead you to me. Hurry. Signed change. Something must have gone wrong at the shack. Maybe she talked a half-breed into helping us. We better not take any chances. That old timer might get talking. Go get him. We'll take him along with us. That's a good idea. There he is, man. Old timer. Did you read this here note you got from the girl? Well, now, young man, when you speak a reason, right? Never mind. I want you to take it to the place where you got it. What if I don't have to do that thing? You've got no choice. Get into the saddle. Hey, get going. The old linger disguised as an old man rode slowly on soft ground. Part was on one side and red on the other. There were several miles from town. There should be tracks along here somewhere. The only tracks I can see are those we're making. I'm looking for my own back trail. Make it like it's flying by a couple cross-cutters. Hold on. That'll be it. That's the trouble. Hey, what are you saying, that girl? I told you to lead us to the place where you got that letter. You've changed direction about six times.  I told you I was trying to find a shortcut to my back trail. Okay, then, bud. Yeah. Hold on. I got it. Yeah, you're going with us. If you try to break away, we'll cut you down. Are we going to the shack? Yeah. Get on that car. Yes, we're going. Jeb and had become increasingly impatient as he waited in the cafe with Toto for the disguised lone ranger. Finally, he went out to make inquiries. He came back excited and badly shaken. There's trouble we didn't figure out. What the heck? I was talking to some of the boys, asking if they'd seen anything of a desert rat. One of them saw him talking to Red and Bart. When? It was over an hour ago. And listen, Toto, you left town with those two. That's not our lone ranger friend. Who? Masked friend. You call him the lone ranger. Great day. Is that who he is? Him go without law. That means something goes wrong. We've got to do something in quick. They've already got a big start. Him in cover. Him cry and leave pale. And we follow. The lone ranger still wearing in disguise was taken by Red and Bart to an old shack in an isolated part of the country.  Hey, get off that horse and walk insane, Mark. Get it? He was closely watched by both his captors. The door of the shack was opened by a half-breed. Oh, it's in your head. Get out of the way. You get in there, mister. Hey, man, it's your son. Got it? Breed, take a look at this letter. See, senor? You can read it. Tell me how that girl got it out of here. Amigo, she could get nothing out of here. She has been tied since the last time you were here. That about it, Jane. I don't know what you're talking about. But I do know you'd better release me. Well, I'll keep a gun on the old timer, and I'll breed as well. Right. Senor, a gun on me? There's something funny about this, and I'm going to find out what it is. Take a look at this letter, Jane. Did you write it? You know what I wrote.  But what about this? Take a look at it. What kind of a deal did you make on Breed so he lets you write this letter? Why don't you ask him? No, no, that's not true. I did not write that, all right? I know nothing about it. All right. Tell him someone's going to talk. I'll give you two a couple of minutes to take things over. And let me warn you, there'll be a couple of dead men in this room if I don't get proof back. The old man knew that he would be killed by Red Senior later. There was every reason to support but Breed, too, would be shot. Standing close to the wall next to the half-breed, he carefully weighed his chances against the two armed men and decided that he at least could die fighting. Well, Breed, you got anything to say?  I did not do it, Senor. She has not been untied since the last time you were here. About the letter, I know nothing. We'll get back to you in a minute. No, time or maybe you're ready to talk. Was that girl untied when she gave you the letter? Oh, I don't hear you, mister. Look out!  Parked by it once. His bullet was high and chunked into the opposite wall. The Moon Ranger came up from the floor with a shop jab to bark to him. Take a skew! And then he grabbed the gun with his other hand but barked out loud. It is that gun! Not a chance! Oh, fix him! He think his gun is a club. Red's got down at the Moon Ranger's head. No, it's not. He barked your tree. Good work, Red! For a moment, the Moon Ranger staggered back. He's down. Finish the old critter. He's stronger than I thought. You'll break. There we are. Don't make sense. There's a little bird. Why are you up there? I'll show you. You haven't fired from the window causing Red's time as the killer swung through the door. The shower brushed in, followed by tunnels. There's a boat here. Don't wait for it, sir. How do you change? You may need your ID. I'm coming, sir. Hello. You've got to adjust in time. You all right, Kim? Yes. Well, you made it in time. You'll ride quite well and soft. Leave good trail. Oh.  We ride plenty fast. Here. Here it comes. Thanks, honey. Jane. Jane, honey. Are we all right? Yes, Dad.  I'll have them off in no time. I know all about it, honey. And so does the sheriff.  You don't need to explain anything. But your friend, you left him with these two kiddies. He came to me and told her he'd lied about his son-in-law. You did that, Jeff. You're doing the right idea. Yeah, there's some good tiddies there, Brett Lawrence. You in here, boys? Put some ropes on these ropes. Yeah, those men, Sheriff. You'll have me following me. I'd like to go to Mike's camp and get rid of this guy. Who's he? You're Brett Lawrence. Who's he? Let him ask him out, honey. As soon as you get them ropes, we'll take him in the town. I'll see you again. Yeah, sir. I'm curious about one thing. You were willing to look calm, hang to see the left of your bed. When the life of Tommy's friend was at stake, he told me everything, Sheriff. Come here with me. Well, you see, Sheriff, Tommy's friend means more to the west than any of us, including me and my whole family. He's the Lone Ranger. I'll see you again. This is a feature of the Lone Ranger Incorporated, created by George W. Trendle, produced by Trendle Campbell Enterprises, and directed by Charles D. Livingston. Tonight's drama was written by Frank Stryker. A part of the Lone Ranger is played by Brace Beamer.


guys, we are sitting outside of one of the dollar trees near my house and we are going to participate in Cindy Utter's $10 dollar store mark making tool challenge. So I'm gonna head on in. I'm gonna try to film where I can, asking for forgiveness, not permission. So we'll see what happens. And I'm gonna see what I can see and find what I can find and I'll be right back. That was harder for me than it's probably gonna be for the rest of you because I already have a lot of mark making tools from the dollar store. So I had to try to find things I don't already own. I found some things and I think we're gonna take a couple of new twists on Cindy's challenge. So I'm going to go back home with my stuff and we will get to the table and we will get to work and I'll show you what I'm gonna do. All right, I'll be back. Hi guys. All right. So let's see what we got at the dollar store, shall we? So I got a few things. I got a, you know, a bug swatter. I got this car cleaning microfiber mitt thing. This is a, you know, a bow for the top of a gift or a present. This little facial brush, plastic champagne glasses. A couple of toy, different kinds of toy cars. These rubber bracelets. These cookie cutters with a, they have like a plastic or silicone top and they got plastic bottoms. These coasters and I did spend more than ten dollars at my eye. Dental tools. I got these sticky felt things for the underneath your furniture so they don't scratch your floor. And then I got some beads. All right. So I bought more than the ten dollars and some of these things we're going to, I'm going to turn it. I'm going to take this whole challenge one step further and I'm going to turn them into something that is more of a stamping tool other than what they already are. So I'm going to do that right now. I'm going to speed forward through the process and all you're going to need for this are the stuff that you, the things that you bought at the store. Some scraps of cardboard. Like this is a box that we got in the mail the other day and some glue. And I'm going to do it. I'm going to show you what I'm doing. I'm going to speed through it and then we'll be back when they're dry to make some marks. All right. I'll be right back. Okay. I've made something we can use as a stamp quote unquote out of some of the objects we bought at the dollar store. We're going to let the glue dry overnight and we will be back to make some marks and make some impressions. Again, I'm going to put a little bit of a twist on it and do it my way, but I'll be right back with that in a few minutes for you and a whole day for me. Hey guys, how are you today? All right. So we are back for you. It's only been like a second for me. It's been overnight and all of my new mark making tools are dry. The ones that I glued up, everything dried. Well, see, except that one. So this one's going to be interesting. So we're going to probably throw these cut bits I cut away. The rubber in these did not stick to the glue, which is odd, but these things happen. So I didn't cut them all up. So we've got a few left. So we'll use them as is. We tried, but our beads stuck really well. You kind of never know when you do these things. We have this one, this one, and this one. So we are going to make some marks with the stuff we got at the dollar store. We're going to do it a little bit different way. Yeah. So I'm going to get out. We get these financial statement like books in the mail that we probably should read and we don't. We just toss them out. Well, we were tossing them out, but they actually have kind of nice thin paper, like Bible paper. It reminds me of Bible paper. It's really thin and it makes nice collage painted collage paper. So we're going to be making some marks on some of that today. And we're going to be doing it a couple of different ways. And one of the ways we're going to be doing it is on the jelly plate. I also have some deli paper. All right. Let's make sure we're zoomed out. All right. So we are. I've got some PBO studio acrylics and turquoise blue. And this tube is almost empty. So we're going to see about using some of it up.  That's probably too much, but that's okay. And we're going to basically use the jelly plate like an ink pad to make our marks and to practice with our tools and what kind of marks they will make. I'm going to start with this one. So this is the gift top thing. So I'm going to just do this with it on the jelly plate. And then I'm going to do this with it. You know what? I was thinking I wasn't going to like that, but I was wrong. Huh. Who knew? I kind of like the marks that that makes. Let's move some of this stuff out so I can move my paper up so you can see what I'm doing. So I kind of like the marks that that's making. Who knew? All right. Well, so we have marks on our paper, but we also have marks on the jelly plate. Keep that in mind. That's going to be important in a minute. We're not going to, we're going to leave that the way it is right now. We're going to come in with another mark making tool. Let's try the champagne glass.  So if it cracks like it just did, it doesn't matter. And I have lots of things that make round marks. So you know, I didn't really need it or anything, but that's okay. It was part of the challenge. So that makes fun marks. I wonder what the bottom will do. And I did just crack the bottom. So yeah, same kind of marks, different size. So that's interesting. So maybe you're at a wedding or something and you pick up a champagne glass, it'll make marks. All right, set that aside. Let's just flip this over and start a new page. These are kids' cars, right? Kids' toy cars. This is something I knew would make an interesting mark. We used to do this when I had my daycare business all the time. It makes fun mark. All right. So now this is pretty marked up here. So I'm going to take a piece of deli paper. Look at that. It's a fun paper. So let's start fresh here. And let's try some of our, let's try our beads. You know, you would, I would have thought that the big beads would have made a bigger spot, but they don't.  That's an interesting thing. So frequently when I'm at the dollar store, I do this kind of thing and I buy different kinds of tools and I take them home and play with them and make marks with them. And I have a big box full of sort of homemade mark making tools. And the ones that I like, I keep. And the ones that I don't, I just toss out. It's not like they cost me a lot of money. Those are interesting. Let's try something else. Let's try some of these cookie cutters. Oh, those make a nice mark. I kind of wasn't sure what was going to happen with that, but they actually make a very nice mark. Huh. Okay. Who knew? Let's try our little facial brush here, which makes it interesting like, this is what I know I'm going to keep because I can see using this on a canvas to make marks and blend paint. That's nice. I like that. Okay, I have these braids. We have the bracelets. So let's do this and let's put them on here sort of randomly. And let's take our deli paper. So we have that, which is interesting. And I'm going to hang this up. And then we have these, of course, which we can bring over here. We can rub in and get it an impression. I doubt we're going to get anything. I think these are something that's going to go in the trash. Ah, they're okay. They're not my favorite. I don't know if I'll be keeping those. All right, we have this on here though. This is interesting. So let's pull, let's pull a ghost print. Hmm. I don't know. Maybe I'll keep them for using on the jelly plate because that's interesting. Some things make better marks on different things than others. So some things are going to make a better stamp and some things are going to be great on the jelly plate. So if you're using your jelly plate for a kind of an ink pad or a paint pad, then you want to have a little more paint on there than usual. All right, here's our coasters. These are coasters. Sometimes I glue a bottle cap to the back of these and it makes it easier to lay it down and lift it up again. Oh, yep, that makes an interesting mark, both as a stamp and on the jelly plate. So I like that. Let's try one of our dental tools. I really liked when Cindy used these dental tools. I thought that made an interesting mark. And I have one of these for cleaning my tongue, but I'm not going to use that on the paint after it's been all over my tongue. Ew, that's gross. So I bought a new one at the dollar store. Yeah, I like this little tool a lot. Let's pull a print from the jelly plate. Interesting. I'm going to pull a ghost print because I like the way that looks still. A piece of dried something on there. Okay, I'm going to put some more paint on there. Flip our page in our book here. This is for cleaning cars with. And I think I might have one of these already somewhere, but that's okay. And it makes both an interesting texture on the jelly plate and one interesting kind of a background thing on the paper. And then next let's try our other car.  I have cars already, but I'm going to add these to my collection. I want to put, now this is really, because this was a bug swatter, a fly swatter. It's too thick and it's too detailed to use as a stencil, but you could push it into the paint like a stamp and then do that with it. And see, that's actually interesting. Can you all see that right there? That's, it got, that's very interesting. And let's pull that over here. It leaves an interesting pattern, a background pattern as a stamp. I thought it might and see, look at that interesting texture you get on the jelly plate. I like that. Okay. So that's a keeper. Toothbrushes are great because you can, you know, flick wet paint onto your piece with them. They also, you can do, you can scrub paint around and stuff. So that's going to be a keeper. It's not necessarily going to be a mark-making tool. It'll probably live in my paint brushes, but I'm going to be keeping that. I don't know about these. I might put these with some of my bookbinding and other miscellaneous tools, or at least the pick, the mirror I'm not sure about. Let's put some more paint on here. And let's use our felt pads that were from underneath the furniture, or meant for underneath the furniture. Oh, see, I would have thought we would have got more impression from that. And we're getting almost nothing. Okay. So this might be something that, let's try it a different way. I need a brush. My allergies are making me crazy today. Everything's blooming. Let's see if I can get some paint out of the tube. I need some paint. There we go. All right. So this might be one of those things. Let's try it this way before I chuck it all together. Now these felt pads are absorbent. And I've done mark making tools with a couple of different things that are absorbent. And while the first couple times you use them, you get an interesting print, you have to let like one or two coats of paint sort of dry on them to get a good print. And that way they're not absorbent anymore. Yeah, see, and this one is definitely one that you kind of have to paint the paint on, rather than using it on the jelly plate to get a print. Yeah. Although it's not my favorite, I've got to admit. And this one's going to be the same. This one's going to be a paint in the neck. I'm not going to even paint the whole thing up. Yeah, it's going to be a paint in the neck. This is why usually when I do stamps like this, I do them at a craft foam. What else did I get? I think that's all. Did I use everything? I think so. So let's, oh, I have, no, I have a couple more things. Okay. So one of the fun things on the big beads, they had these like connect this connector thing on it that I thought might yeah, make an interesting circle mark. I have a lot of things that make circles, but you know, it's, it's, this is a fun, interesting one. And then we have these other cookie cutters because they came in a set of four. Oh, and this was the lid to the facial brush. Oh, yep. See, that makes an interesting mark. It's not packaging like Cindy used, but it's definitely interesting. I guess it's kind of packaging. Yeah, these cookie cutters make good marks, both on the jelly plate and on paper. And for the most part, I like my tools to be something I can use in multiple applications, not just for one or the other. Get the most bank for your buck, so to speak. So there you go. I was, I hope that you take up the challenge to go to the dollar store, buy 10 items for $10 and see what kind of mark making tools you can make out of them and what kind of marks you can get out of them. That's it for today. Don't forget the most important thing. Go out and have a great day and do something nice for yourself because you deserve it. And I'll see you later.


Item Number – SCP-506 Object Class – SAFE Special Containment Procedures SCP-506 grows in a 3 meter by 3 meter patch of soil, kept watered and fertilized via an automatic system. The air of the room where SCP-506 is kept must be filtered to prevent release of SCP-506 seeds into the environment. While entering the enclosure must wear biohazard suits composed of inorganic material and must be decontaminated upon leaving the area. Due to the potential dangers associated with cross-contamination, SCP-506 and SCP-124 are not to be stored at the same foundation site under any circumstances. Description – SCP-506 is a genetically engineered variant of Zucchini, Cucurbita pepo, created by the Red Corp. as a hardy and rapid-growing food plant. SCP-506 exhibits several undesirable and dangerous qualities. One – SCP-506 will attempt to grow on any organic material, including on living beings. The seeds germinate on contact. Two – SCP-506 grows extremely rapidly, reaching full size in 5 minutes or less. Three – due to its rapid growth, SCP-506 drains its growing medium of nutrients at an accelerated rate. Nothing will grow in soil that has harbored SCP-506 plants without extensive nutrient replacement. Four – SCP-506 seeds are much smaller than typical squash seeds and disperse easily in the wind. SCP-506 is inedible, as the seeds will data expunged, if any are consumed. To the best of the knowledge of the Foundation, SCP-506 has not escaped into the wild, and the Red Corp. has destroyed all samples in their possession. Addendum – SCP-506 is evolving rapidly, as indicated by the incidents below. Incident Report 5061 – 516-2001 SCP-506 plants observed attempting to grow on the walls of the containment facility. Although the plants died of malnutrition, testing indicates the latest generation requires 35% fewer nutrients than when originally contained. Research in progress to find materials that do not support SCP-506 growth. Incident Report 5062 – 912000 Dr. K found dead in the SCP-506 enclosure, covered with plant growth. The means by which his suit was compromised is unknown. SCP-506 roots have been found to secrete a powerful anesthetic, explaining why Dr. K did not sound the alarm or attempt to escape the area. Researchers must be under video surveillance while working with SCP-506, with another researcher ready to assist in case of accidental infestation. Reclassification is Euclid recommended. Lesson complete. If you missed the previous orientation, go watch SCP-505, Inkstain, right now. Or for the complete course, watch this playlist.


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Good evening and welcome to channel 17 town meeting television for our continuing coverage of general election 2018 this evening. We have Gino Sullivan with us. She is running unopposed in District 6 to District 6 to and that is in Burlington's new north end welcome Jean so great to see you Thank you new and old north end. I have the best district. That's right. I believe in the state I go I have a full spectrum economically. I Have I go from the old north end to the new north end? I go all the way down to the waterfront with all of the various different condos, which I find are hilarious, you know Between the metal condo Sarah Harry's condos and Barry Mossman's with the faux French chateau. So it's all great It's a wonderful district And you have been serving for four and a half terms. Yes, I have so why are you running for reelection? well, I have of course a plan I am ranking member on House Commerce and We have done for the past four years a lot of work on Tech Ed 3000 actually this is a Frank coffee number 3000 young people graduate from our 86% graduation rate with no job skills No pathway to a middle-class job No idea what a middle-class job is when the retail association came to our committee and said we need workforce ready people And I said for the record to find that and they said able to add and subtract and show up for work That's terrifying Now let's segue to we also have in the state Champlain College and Norwich Which are two of the five top ranking in the world? cybersecurity educational facilities in the world We have tech in this state that is amazing We have we are brilliant in this state of Starting small businesses. We are our challenges going from small to to actually sizing up That's where we really need to work with our small business community But what I know is is that I've been in for four years That's 12,000 young people who've graduated with no job skills And a lot of that has to do with the fact that Tech Ed when we say career technical education We're talking about Burlington Tech Essex Tech and all of that When you look at the funding mechanism, it cost a sending school money to send a kid to tech So you got a barrier there to our world is changing the world of work is changing The talents you use are changing one of the things Google figured out years ago was that the people who do Automotive Tech are brilliant at 3d computer-aided design so All of these different levels of how we the the nature of work the type of jobs We have are changing and the traditional K through 12 hard, you know Line and then you have quote technical education that when I go into my district and I talk about this Wonderful well well in people tension people say I really want to help those kids Those kids are their kids. Those kids are my kids. My kids went to the Burlington school system Both of them would have loved to apply to you know academics both of them would have loved to have something They can put their hands on I was talking to a graduate from VHS one of my son's best friends They're all 40-somethings and Noah was saying I love video Production but it was the tech center and there there was a stigma to being in the tech center So we've got to knock all of that town and we've got to look at the European models We've got to give certain we've been doing a lot of work in our committee for the past four years on Looking hard at what are the certification programs that are world that are recognized there is a construction certification you can get post High school or in high school that is recognized in all of the construction industry So then you know that if I am construction company and I'm hiring that person they've got that certificate They've got certain skillsets on board Jillian from whose last name escapes me, but she's brilliant in Burlington It's Edo is doing this and training up. I think it's 50 People that the city council is supporting So what we need to do is break down the barriers change the entire funding mechanism and and and get a free Flow and word what we've done in this legislature now is is we've created four pilot projects that are driving Tech Ed down or applied education which I should talk about it down into grade seven And we're saying to your K through 12 schools come up with something There was a reason why woodshop was brilliant in schools back in the day as was music we We have different skill sets we need and we need to do that so I so the the table is laid We had a workforce development bill. We passed that Next this first session we're getting a report on adult education Which people think of as adult basic ed getting your GED, but that can also be workforce development We are not utilizing our facilities to train up working people Everyone knows that people we've got a low unemployment rate and we've got people who are working in two and three jobs But the jobs aren't paying them enough. We could take some of those people and train them in adult workforce education So if we do that the first year in commerce The Commerce Committee because we took that funding out of the education funded to the general fund So commerce gets to do that if commerce and education can join together in the second half the biennium Because now the Commerce Committee has had a fairly good training in this Reaching out to the Education Committee we could form some sort of a special committee. However, they form it where we could really redesign the funding model the training models everything that we've got So that it is a freer flow from I would say an artist and a well and a pipe fitter both want to learn how to weld Well, it sounds like And we can do it in two years. So that's why I'm running for reelection. Okay It sounds like What we're lacking in the educational system is a well-rounded Education where people are learning with their head and their hands Completely right and so you know music is going to help you be better in math and right woodwork is going to be better Help you be better at pretty much anything including the exercise of your will to stick to whatever job you're going to do And education should give every student a pathway to a middle-class Income earning put potential and I was talking to a young man. He wants to be a physical therapist.  And he said why would I do that? And I said because that would allow you to work in a nursing home where they do rehab So you'd be on the ground doing that. That's why connecting work to students the K through 12 students and the tech students We're not kids don't do summer jobs anymore So they don't have any of those job skills as we need as a as an educational facility is to bring Well-rounded we need to bring our students in so they really have Ladders that same kid who could get a personal care attendancy. So they'll get killer recommendations for college Now let's talk about the kid who really cares about people Really hate school for whatever reason just wants to get out get on their own and have their own apartment And they care about people that same kid in a sophomore year get a personal care attendant That would be the summer after-school job If you do that and and or care about it visiting nurse association will pay full bore all the way up to BS in nursing So there are all of these ladders that we need to connect from the workforce and the workforce needs To our students. So that's what keeps kids home. That's what builds a community And how do you think that this ties into one of the questions we have here about Vermont's? Sustainable economy for Vermont. I think there's probably a straight line. Yeah, you're right. Right. It's right. We are we Someone said I was at a actually I was on at the Tech Alliance they have they have a wonderful boat cruise I always fall into to go on but also you meet interesting people with great brains And one guy said yes, you've got to stop paying for student tourism in the state of Vermont. What's that mean? Everyone comes and goes to school loves it and leaves. Mm-hmm. That's not a sustainable model and and we we are Well, one of the really cool models we've got now is we now put in full full scholarships for the National Guard One to make us more competitive my other day job is I'm state chair of the ESG are which is employer support for the Garden Reserve which is a Department of Defense grouping in every state that is the liaison between Garden Reserve members and their civilian careers because when we got rid of the draft We hung everyone out to dry We said, oh great will save millions of dollars in just-in-time inventory for defense and actually does work But at any given moment 54% of our deployed troops are Garden Reserve people now Let's figure out how well how that impacts the small employer in Vermont So instead of being honest and actually taking a lot of those billions of savings in the Department of Defense and Putting it towards supporting Garden Reserve members in their civilian careers because they're gonna go off on drills and they're gonna get deployed and all of that And that has an impact instead of doing that to support them. They basically do nothing and Buy more boy, you know choice for boys, which is really probably the worst thing I should say, but I don't care So that's the piece. So what I do that what I do there is I'm working with employers To bridge and get our particularly our mountain troops, which are infantry our air the airborne are They've got all stem jobs, but the infantry don't so I'm they've got a lot of people like who are Landscapers and things and if they get deployed they lose their business. So what we're trying to do is build up a better bridge for Guard members and their civilian jobs So let me ask you about the climate economy and how Vermont can take advantage of the opportunity that climate change presents We need to do a carbon tax We need to understand that if we can do it red regionally we should but we absolutely have to do that. We need to just work as diligently and as Conscientiously as we can the other thing we need to do is clean our water It not just because it's for tourism. It would not just because we want clean water and it's good for tourism That estimated 20 million dollars a year is economic development. Those are construction jobs That's money. We're investing in building Vermont. That's where the sustainability comes in You got a we've got to start thinking about that. We're gonna clean up our waters then we invest in and and we train Burling to Vermonters for those jobs So where is the money going to come from to clean up the lake to clean up with the waterways in general? Honestly, I like I like the treasurer's original plan which was the plot It was it was based in there was a there was a surcharge on every on every plot We're gonna have to figure it out. I don't know what's gonna happen with the federal government, but We need to think of it not as a tax that disappears we need we need to quantify that as Economic development for construction in our in our state I think that actually Paul Ralston was talking about this down in the Addison is saying but we should invest in the state should pay for the the buffers on the edges of the river and That's I think we should I think we should look at that and say to do that to make those riparian buffers I think this phrase That takes workers people have to do it those are Vermont jobs and those can be very skilled Vermont jobs So I want to read I want to rephrase a lot of those the sustainability economy is looking at reinvesting in ourselves If we have if we are putting guard members for your scholarships in Vermont schools Then why don't we make sure that we have really good jobs for them when they come back when they're when they're here So they stay here so Being in the district that you represent six two It's probably one of the more diverse districts in the state would be my guess in terms of population, right? It is and so What do you see as the challenges to? Institutional racism. I mean now how can we as a state dismantle that? systemic Racism that is contained in how we do business. I remember in the legislature when we started talking about driving while black and And this is before we had the wonderful study for UVM and People were standing up and saying no no no this can't be true. This can't be true and to have Objective fact-based discussions Helps a tremendous amount one of the first things I ever did in the legislature was created was actually to first the nation bill We the National Guard now reports every year on sexual harassment sexual assault and Discrimination in the Guard instance that were complained and now we added another stream, which is women being recruited How many have re-upped and and how are and how are they being how are you? Elevating them in the force because the only way you're really going to take care of that situation is to get a better 5050 mix gender-wise well That's about quantify quantify quantify and part of the thing we have to do is look at the numbers. It's we are Incarcerating I believe the highest number of Black young men in the country in Vermont. Yes, and if not if we're not the highest we're damn close and We're sending them to Mississippi to a for-profit prison in a state that flies a flag that has the Confederate battle flag in it. I Was a civil rights worker for SNCC in Mississippi for a year I know that state and I visit that state. It hasn't changed. I don't I worry about our population so We just have to look at it recognize it and embrace it England in the 40s Went through this a similar situation. It was an island population. They're all white all of a sudden the Empire came home and that's when the Teddy boys were there and all of that and And eventually it's still not fabulous, but eventually Communities got absorbed culture got absorbed so tiki masala is probably chicken masala is probably everyone's favorite Friday night dish and one thing So we have to do the same thing and and the state has a challenge because we have Burlington with our fabulous diversity and then we have Maybe I don't know Springfield so It's it's bringing it along. I keep saying things like Whenever I look at anything that did travel and tourism puts out any brochures I got to be a joke in my committee because Bill Botzel my chair was wonderful Would give me whatever brochure and I would flip through it and I'd start counting the black or brown faces I'd see and If we're selling Vermont sell a multicultural Vermont, but what if we're not really hospitable the multicultural Vermont? We need to make people aware and that's how you do it. You have multicultural brochures advertising your state you recognize Institutional racism with with driver stops you look at discipline problems in schools You start you start? Cole just objectively looking at facts I Think most people Are well-meaning I Think people are unaware if you were if you were part of them if you unaware of if you look like me You wander blissfully through the world and you don't there's no moment because I'm in the majority all the time It's only when you're in the minority that you get a different take and so It's conversation. It's talking. It's making but it's also Hard-nosed looking at traffic stops looking at incarceration figures looking at who chooses to prosecute Looking at housing looking at economic diversity Look at who are we we who are we recruiting? so let me ask you about the economics of our educational system and how we maintain a quality of education with a declining Population of school-age students. Oh dear God Well, you know the standard the standard statement is if you got off the proper it doesn't make sense for property owners To function to pay for education. Yes, we have by definition We get a benefit Because you know we it may keep my property keeps my housing value up But that's really not the way to to fund things If you did it on Akonai if you did it on income, we all know it would work better That's just so you spread the you spread that Are there states where education is financed based on income dear God? I don't know did I ever say that burning bamboo shoots under my fingernails is more preferable than being on the education committee honestly, I that I Have so much respect for the people in the education committee. That is a very arcane and tough world. I Do blockchain and commerce my other deepweeds world, but that I I willingly I You know Janet Ansel Has an encyclopedic knowledge of taxes and how they affect people and she's ways and means yes, right? and we have The education committee and Dave Sharp is retired and everyone on that committee is stellar so It's a tough place. I just you know my I know that I know I'm a retired stock program I know the dollars and cents the dollars and cents are if it's on income it works out better, but so Agriculture the dairy farms in our state are really having a very difficult time Because of the way the financing of milk has been structured and for other reasons so how important is is agriculture and in In general dairy farming in particular how important does it remain for our state and what could we do to support it? Well, I had a wonderful experience actually with a constituent Our farm to plate and our What we're doing in agriculture is pretty impressive and it's about diversity. It's about getting getting our egg particular a dairy Farmers to to to find more profitable sidelines and to diversify their product in order to survive That being said I I have a constituent who makes an amazing dip That is now in Hanifords and she has an opportunity to go from 70 Hanifords to a thousand and also cost Costco's talking to her so she she's a startup and she needs to ramp up So I called the Agriculture Department of Agriculture to see you know what they've got going and they've got a specialist in there Who knows every dairy license in the state? Absolutely on point right there knows how to scale people up Immediately said there are various distributors of refrigerated trucks. That was one of her challenges. And so they're doing an excellent job on that It's it's tough, you know if if you go organic you get out of the dairy compact Which means you can charge Yes, more latitude about what you charge for your milk. Yes, you have you're out of the compact you you're no longer priced There's there's a cost involved in that and there's a time lag It's a challenge and it's and it is and the backbone of a vast number of our dairy farms are undaunted documented folks So what's your view on? This isn't a question, but just You know the ice strategy and its impact on the state just in the light of what you've just said Well, we had it was funny that the defender general came to the judiciary last year and said look we've got the money We're doing it anyway We're defending undocumented people at local in the local level and then they go to immigration court down in Boston And you know they assured you just sort of they thought it'd be good come to the floor. No problem the It was it was like the poison from the national World was coming into our some of the things that people said about those people In the legislative arena. Yeah, it passed and so our defender generals are doing it But what they're talking about we're not they were talking about our undocumented people who are keeping the backbone of our state and our dairy farms afloat but this Poisonous venomous thought process is even coming to Vermont. I'm granted. It's in small doses and I am wildly proud of our legislature I think we really we pride ourselves in being as like especially in commerce. You're really are nonpartisan But we pride ourselves in in collegiality and respect so that was pretty awful So we're just about to wrap up. Do you have any closing comments? I want everyone to vote We are all look out for front porch forum We are going to be on front porch for a form telling district six one Which is the far new north end and district six to who's most who's coming out to vote more? We're going to give you statistics. We're going to tell you how to do early voting The one thing you can tell the world is join us in this onslaught of voting Vote your conscious vote for who you want, but just get out and vote. This is the saving grace to democracy Wonderful. Thank you. Geno Sullivan. Geno Sullivan is running unopposed for the district six two in Burlington That covers the old north end part of the old north end and part of the new north end And we hope that you will stay tuned here for continuing coverage of channel 17 town meeting television general election 2018 we'll be back