The brilliant, the most powerful, the most powerful. The brilliant, the most powerful, the most powerful. The brilliant, the most powerful, the most powerful. Shalomane to God. Andrew Shelds.  We never think that. Alright, but we do have some church announcements, do we? Um, we do, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, we can get into it later. Let's talk, man. We got some cool things going. Yeah, I'm beyond the genre. I have no church announcements. I'm done with y'all motherfuckers. Good. I am done. Yesterday was my last day at Breakfast Club. Yeah. I'm tightening up some things today because, you know, we're recording podcasts right now Thursday morning. It's 8.30 in the morning.   Mmm. It was a short bet, baby. It was a short bet. Yo, there's nobody. You were in the hot seat this week. I would never use that kind of hyperbole if I didn't think it was a short bet. Now, how long did it take you to find out how to properly pronounce hyperbole? Actually, you know what? I always knew how to pronounce it, but for whatever reason I said hyperbole. I said hyperbole.  It's hyperbole, you know what I'm saying? It's the same thing as when Biggie said... Go like this right here.  Go to Richard Pryor. It's all hyperbole.  You still got this thing right here. It's all hyperbole.  You know what's so crazy about the word?  That's a bet. No, I'm not saying that you would have done it, but he didn't beat the case. Exactly.  Technically, that's beating the case. No, it's fucking... It's not beating the case. There's no such thing as technically he beat the case.  He got sentenced. Would you remove your chains before doing it? Hypothetically speaking. I would never do it. It was a sure bet. But that wouldn't that be slightly disrespectful to the honorable Elijah Muhammad and Malcolm unless you just hear their chains dangling. It's called hyperbole. Right. Everybody go Google hyperbole. It's an exaggeration. You know what I mean?  You do hyperbole all the time. Bro, I thought you said hyperbole. And I was like, you're really going for the sack with this blowjob. But once again, can we say something once again? Yes. I'm right. Like, I am only... That's what you... That's what people really hate. That's what they want to tell me to be so wrong. Oh, he got him finally. 6ix9ine is coming home.  I'm sitting back looking at all the memes. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, where do these rumors come from on the internet? What do you mean? Like, as far as, like, 6ix9ine's coming home. That never came from any reliable source. That never came from a reliable source. Ah, ah, ah, ah, okay, okay. You know what I'm saying? What do you... Where do you think it comes from?  They throw it out there and it goes. Now, I will say last week... You don't think maybe a lawyer, maybe like someone's on the team. I think it came from the label. And the label made it up? I think it came from the label. I think the label was gauging the level of interest people still had in 6ix9ine. Not even as far as, like, regular people, as far as, like, the media is concerned, because they hit me last week and they asked me if I would be down to do a one-on-one interview with 6ix9ine. I said, nah, I don't think that would be a good idea. Yeah. Did you ask what type? I didn't know if they was trying to cash in on the bed.   But I was just like, y'all, I don't think that would be a good idea. I was like, his best two looks have been the Breakfast Club. You know? Maybe the Breakfast Club. But I said, I'll gauge interest. I said, I honestly didn't know how I felt. But I said, I don't know how I feel about interviewing 6ix9ine. Because if you would have got out, I would have felt like there would have been no accountability. Understand what I'm saying?  You order these hits on people. People got hurt.   Right. And then you just come home. Like, you're just supposed to be embraced with open arms. Like, where's the accountability in that? Like, how did the kid learn? Right, right. How did the kid learn from that 6ix9ine situation if he just comes home? Reasonable. On Wednesday. He's been, there's a situation where he's been in prison for what is it, 13 months or something? 13 months.  Not after 13 months. That's what the next question was. How long is it before you can get away from your past? Well, the best apology is changed behavior, right? So I would have to see how he comes home. So if he was to come home yesterday, I got to see what type of person he is. Gotcha.  Gotcha. Are you coming home acknowledging that what you did was wrong in a real way? Are you a changed man?  Right. You know what I mean? And by the way, I have no reason to trust him because he's a young troll. So he's the type of person that will say anything, right, to get what he wants. Right.  Nice six nine don't work. Right.  I never thought that the super thug thing was that compelling. I thought the self-deprecation was funny. Like when he would run in the hallways and talk about how he's the fastest guy when he's like super slow obviously and it was just hysterical. Like he'd just be in this hotel room when he's playing soccer and like he's the best goalie. Like when he was kind of making fun of himself and poking fun of himself, I was really entertained.  I don't think that it exposed their fake thuggery. They just never ran into each other. You understand what I'm saying?  That's not true. Not with the internet.   Oh, with the internet?  Do it in person. Do it in person with all the secret service and watch what happens to you.  Not without getting tackled.  But that's how it sounds on the internet. Anybody can do whatever they want to be on the internet. You can say whatever you want to say on the internet. But there are consequences to those actions, right? And even with somebody like 6ix9ine.  So you look at the letters from the victims. Right. That they sent to the judge. Or you look at the innocent biker.  The innocent bystander who got shot when he was ordering a hit on somebody. Here's what I would say. The illusion maybe before 6ix9ine was yo, you don't even say a word about these gangsta rappers because if you even say a word about them you might not have felt this way. But maybe someone like myself who's a little bit more removed the idea was that they were like my bosses where it's like you don't even say a word because if you say a word someone's going to see you about it. And then... He could have still got shot. That's fair. That's fair. But like he started saying a word about everybody and none of them did anything and it was kind of fascinating for... He didn't go nowhere though.  So he was in Chicago. Like he was in all these places. They showed the video. He was in LA. No, no, no, no. They showed the video of this guy in Chicago surrounded by police officers surrounded by all this type of flight security. This old block he went to at like 4.35 in the morning he literally was there for like 40 seconds. Yo, he got kidnapped. What do you mean? He got kidnapped in Chicago but he got kidnapped in New York. In New York? Exactly. So it's not even that hard to get him. But he got kidnapped by his own crew. That's the thing. So it's not even that hard to get him. No, no, no, no. Andrew, he got kidnapped by his own crew. I can kidnap you right now. I know you're at... How? Because I know where you're at. I know... You know what I'm saying? You want to kidnap me? You want to hang out? I'm just saying. Hang out, bro. We go get some food or whatever. Hang out and kidnap me there. I'm just saying. We're a team. It's easy to kidnap somebody in your team. Right. That's the easiest thing to do. I know a tailor that every day. So you a kidnapper? It depends on the price. It's a hot commodity out here in East Greece. How much are you going for a tailor? Yo, they hit us and they were like one million. I'd be like... What's Sin doing? I wouldn't sell a tailor for one million. Is Sin not going to do the board? I wouldn't sell a tailor for one million. You wouldn't sell her? I wouldn't sell her for nothing I have. What does that mean? I wouldn't sell her for nothing I have. Oh, I forgot you're selling. I was in a buyer's market. That's right. You kidnap. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So here's the question. What would we pay for tailor? Let's say she was kidnapped by someone else. And I know her? It's tailor. Like I know her. You know her. It's tailor. It's this tailor. She's not your relative. Is this a ransom? Yo, one... Wait a minute. Is this a ransom?  No, no, no. You don't own her now. Okay. You know, kidnap it works. So this is a ransom. Do we need to bring in a professional wax? Get in here. No, it's a ransom. It is a ransom. Tailor is kidnapped. There is one way to get her back. It is one million US dollars to get her back. Prayer changes things, bro. You know what I'm saying? Everybody, let's hold hands. And let's all say a prayer for young Taylor. You know what I mean? I love her. Okay. Please. Please God bring her back home safely.  Please God bring her back home safely. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. Please. So you're not putting up a milli for Taylor. Milli's a lot of money, bro. What was that? A milli is a lot of money though. Milli's a lot of money, bro. Milli's a lot of money, yo. Say what? What do I have? 500. I got to see what your mom, what kind of collateral your mom got. Did you get the house? Yo, that's true. I'm serious. Like your mom got to put up the money first. What's that? It's not on a Charlotte. I need some collateral. Like if I put this money up, how do I make sure it's ROI on this? No, no, there's no return on investment. That isn't investment. It's not a stock. Yes, it is. I'm a free you Taylor, but I get 20% of perpetuity. I don't want to make sure that I get my money back at some point in time.  If you put the house up. If her mom put the house in my name.  Do you want Taylor back or not? Now you're holding her ransom too. You're doing the same thing. You're kidnapping her. You basically transferred the kidnapping. Who's with this? Is this a ring? Yo, a million. No, 500 K. No. Okay. What's the no question amount? $50,000 to get Taylor back. I put 50 up. Yo, that's what's up Taylor. You got 50 out of me. That is what's up Taylor. I'll put 50 up. 50 up for Taylor. That's no problem. 75. I do 75 for Taylor. 90. I do 90 for Taylor. 100. I do 100 for Taylor. $150,000. That's when it gets a little trick. That's when we have to start thinking about other options. I'm serious. 100. $250,000 for girls to go to college. Girls have a future. I'm not saying you don't have a future Taylor. I'm just saying I don't know how you'll be after the kidnapping.  Yo, that's a good point. You got to see what shape the car is in before you buy it. I'm not saying you don't have a future Taylor. I'm just saying I don't know how you'll be after the kidnapping.  Yo, that's a good point. I'm not saying before you buy it.  A lot. You might not get your life together ever again. And then he can't get any return of investment. It might be just a lifetime of therapy and counseling for you. I'm dead serious.  This could be bad. But I'm saying all that to say Takashi got kidnapped by somebody in his team. That's easy to do. Right. He was avoiding a lot of potential really bad trouble. I actually think jail was a good thing for him. And the police officers said that when they arrested him. What do you mean? They said we're arresting you because if we don't arrest you. It's over. You're going to get killed. Well, they told him that. So I think it was for two reasons. I don't think they was really caring about his safety. I also knew they knew they could flip Takashi 69 the way that they did. Yeah. Simple as that. And do you think that there's any future for him? It's going to be rough though. But it's definitely a future. I mean, I see Takashi coming home sometime next year. He's going to need 24 seven 365 day security. How much is that? It's going to be very costly.  I don't know if 50 cent had around the clock security, but I don't know at 50 cents. I know in like 09 I read an article that said 50 cents security detail was $1.6 million.  And I don't even think that's around the clock. That's just like when he's moving around, you know, maybe the city or different cities are going in and out of town. I don't know if that's around the clock, but it was $1.6 million for 50 cents. Now, my question is how's Takashi going to make that money? Because let's just say the label put up $10 million, right? And so maybe a million or two of that goes into his pocket. The rest goes into his budgets for albums, security and stuff like that. He's going to be on supervised release five years. What does that mean? It's like supervised release. So it's like probation for five years. Or maybe parole. I don't know if it's probation or parole, but he's going to be on probation or parole for five years. And that means he can travel if he gets permission. If he gets permission. Right. Right now. Probably just in the States. Probably just in the States.   So it's like, you think that's going to change? Not that he's out?  So what's the monetization strategy? I don't know. Because you don't make that much money off screaming. We know that already. We know you don't make a lot of money off screaming. Like a billion screams on Spotify equates to like a million, two million dollars, something like that. So you don't make a lot of money off screaming. You're going to have to be on the road constantly to make this money. And really just to pay this security bill every motherfucking year. On top of your other bills, I don't see how he survives long. That's just my personal take on it. I just don't see where the money is going to come from. I just don't. But you think the labels believe that there's money here? Clearly. The labels hit us up last week. The labels wanted to do an interview. They wanted me to do a one-on-one interview. I told them that we should do Breakfast Club. They really thought he was coming home on Wednesday, which is another thing I think probably pissed off the judge. And one stuff like that gets in the news. Yes. It's like, you don't decide. You don't decide.  Like, for real. And the way the judge was lining it up, I thought the judge about to get that motherfucker like, yeah. I said he would probably get a three to five with time served. So he'd probably do like two years. So listen, I'm not going to say I thought it was a fair injustice because he snitched. You know what I'm saying? And the cooperation is bad. But he at least got held accountable. And he's going to be held accountable for the rest of his life. This is a permanent stain. Can we discuss this here? If you're going to snitch and then your crew tries to take you out, I get that. But if your crew tries to take you out first and then you snitch, is that not understandable? No. I like what the judge said yesterday. The judge said, you are not a victim here. No, no. I'm not saying he's a victim, but just on that one, I'm just curious about snitch etiquette before we get into him specifically. In other words, let's say you and I are a gang.  Let's say I'm about to go snitch on you. Mm-hmm.  I kind of get it because it's like... If Ghost hasn't snitched on Tommy yet and Tommy hasn't snitched on Ghost. But I get it. But here's the thing. Let's say you're about to kill me, right? Mm-hmm. And I find out that you want to kill me so you don't have to share any of this bank money with me.  I'm snitching on this motherfucker. He's trying to kill me.  You can't do that.  That's the gangster way. You can't touch the police.  That's it. You got to get me got. Okay. Yeah. It's, everything is outside of law enforcement. You can't... So it would be more respected on the streets. Not saying this is a good thing to do. But it would be more respected on the streets. In other words, if I handled you... Totally understandable. Before you handled me. Totally understandable.  You killed your man. Why don't you explain the situation? Okay. I had no other choice. Simple as that. Okay. That's just what I need to clear it up about the etiquette. So the whole thing about the streets, and I'm sure it's similar to mob shit or everything, is just we handle things outside law enforcement. Absolutely. Once you start dealing with law enforcement, you are a rat. That's it. These are the same people we've been ducking and fucking... Right. ...and challenging for years. And so now you want to use them to your advantage. That's why I love what the judge said to 69 yesterday. The judge was like, you're not a victim. When it was convenient for you, you used this army to do your bidding. Yes. You called Hitch on Trippy Red. Yes. And you called Hitch on Chief Keef. Like when it was serving you, he actually called him selfish. The judge called him selfish. What he said? The judge said you're selfish.  So you ain't no innocent here at all. So listen, I don't feel sorry for 69. I'm shocked that he didn't get a little bit more time. Right. But is this going to be rough for him when he comes home? Yeah. Who's coming in? It's Carolina. It's going to be very rough for him when he comes home, man. And I honestly don't see how he... What would you do if you're him? I would do a lot of soul searching. I wouldn't worry about the character of 69 right now. How would you stay alive is what I'm asking. When he comes home, what would you do to stay alive? I don't know. Listen, we live in a different area. So I'm not saying that he's going to be getting shot at everywhere he goes. Yeah. I don't know, man. Honestly, when you ask me that question, what would I do to stay alive? That's why I say I would do a lot of soul searching. I would really dismiss the character of 69 because the character of 69 is what got me in that situation.  You know what I mean? I'd be trying to figure out my life. You know what I mean? I'd be doing a lot of soul searching and just holding myself accountable. You know, recognizing where I went wrong and trying to correct that as a man. And then I would get back into the music thing.   They were funding the dysfunction, right? So now that he's went to jail and he snitched and he's back out on the street, they just want to fund more dysfunction because they want their what ROI. That's it. If it's true that they invested 10 million in them, which I don't even know if that's true.  All they're thinking about is product. Go out here, make these motherfucking songs. Let's see if we can get you on the road doing some shows. And that's that. Yeah. It's just interesting, man. Let's say I want return on investment. I guess that I would have to fund that 50 cent-esque security. You have no choice. You have no choice. If I'm Daniel Hernandez, I have to take that agreement because that's the only thing that keeps me alive. If I don't want to take that agreement, does he move to Montana? Like, where does he go? There's no way he can go. It's a different era.  I've never seen a case like this. Correct me if I'm wrong, Chris or Andrew. I've never seen a case with a high-profile celebrity. Right.   Bro. I've never seen anything like this. It is so interesting because this might be the first witness protection situation of the internet world where witness protection was predicated on the whole idea that middle America had no clue what was going on in entertainment or on the coasts. So, literally the idea of witness protection was, well, we'll send him to Oklahoma. They don't know what's happening over there. The internet has shrunk the world.  They know 69. I don't think that you can send him to any place in America where the kids there will be unaware of who he is. He wants to be seen. Right, right, right. He's a rapper. But if he didn't, if he was like, I truly just want to go. I don't think he's going to be in witness protection. I just think that. No, he turned it down. But let's say they offered it to him. Where are you going to witness protect him? Utah? They're hip. Yeah, man. Montana? They're hip? The internet shrunk everything. They're flying the world. Yo, there's no more witness protection, bro. Yeah. It's gone. I really don't know. I mean, like I said, 24-7, 365 security, I just don't see how he, I just don't see where the money's going to come from. He wasn't generating that kind of paper when he was out. So it's just like, I don't see where that money's going to come from. Like, it's screaming. It's not going to be able to cover those kind of bills. You know what I'm saying? Unless he's on. You can't do a reality show because reality show he could, but it's not going to cover those kind of bills. Who's going to pick it up? One of these networks. Showtime already, Showtime doing a documentary on him or something like that. Complex is doing a documentary. Yeah. Like they've been announced to Showtime. Yeah, they announced to Showtime a month ago.   Content is always king.  But I'm just talking about, as far as like him making consistent money on a show basis, I don't see it. Who's the touring company that's going to sign 6ix9ine? Yeah. It's going to be interesting to see how it plays out. I just think the irony of 6ix9ine getting a sentence and Trump getting impeached on the same fucking. Yo, 6ix9ine should slap harder, bro. We were on Twitter, refreshing Twitter.  We were there for every second. Me, you and Van Texan, me and Alex. We were actually together with Kaz. Kaz, we're going through every single moment. The Trump impeachment happened. Nah, I think they slapped equally. We didn't even discuss the Trump impeachment. I had a couple of group chats going, but you know what was so good about it? It was day and night. The costume was during the day. Trump was late at night. Trump was like eight o'clock, nine o'clock last night. Only impeachments came down. I think the difference was, I knew an impeachment in the house didn't mean anything. So it's not like there was a decision made about Trump. Still historic, though. It's historic. You got to stop saying it didn't mean anything. It's historic, but it doesn't do anything. It's the worst thing that could happen to him. The three worst things that can happen to a president are impeachment being removed for impeachment, which has never happened, and actually getting assassinated. I told you the three things that you don't want as a president. Yeah, I just don't think impeachment matters. Nah, it matters. I don't think so. When you're a narcissist like Donald Trump who was calling for the impeachment of Barack Obama, literally saying he should be impeached for gross incompetence. They're pulling up old tweets his son saying Barack should be impeached. Yeah, this is a stain. But I will say this, right? Outthrow, outthrow, outthrow. But do you don't think that he's okay with stains? No.  No. I think that you underestimate how little he cares about the people that don't like him. I think he's made a career, I think he's made a career on, not only political career, but an entertainment career, on division. You either love or hate this man, and he understands what is more love or hate than politics. But that's with any polarizing person, right? Of course. But Donald Trump has the most bruised, wounded ego I've ever seen. If there's one person out here that is dealing with their hurt in the child syndrome, it is that man. And every billionaire that I know, especially here in New York. Subtleflex. I'm just letting you know. Subtleflex. Actually, I didn't, I'll be honest with you, I didn't have Trump towers last week. Really? It happened. I didn't know how.  It was whatever. Whatever. See, when they call. That was what we were having dinner. And they were talking to me about Trump, and they were saying how we never took Trump serious. Trump was a goofy. He always wanted to be down. He always wanted to be down with that club. He thought being president was going to finally make that club accept him. Now he look at you as an even bigger dickhead, right? Yo. But I thought Trump a little bit of bail, right? Honestly, honestly though. They never accepted him.  What do you mean? When he was earlier on in his career, he would call the tabloids himself. And he'd go, hey, I'm the publicist for Donald Trump. Sorry, billionaire Donald Trump. Before he was even a billionaire. I'm the publicist for billionaire Donald Trump. He was at this restaurant last night with this person trying to get in page six. And he called himself billionaire Donald Trump before he was ever a billionaire. He knew exactly what he was doing. He was fake until he made it. You don't think that's the highest level of insecurity? Bro, I'm not... That's like Kevin Durant's burner account.  I'm not denying that it's wildly insecure. What I am denying is, what I am saying is he is aware of these global elites, these billionaires, right? And he's aware of who he is. I don't think he... I don't think that... I don't think he's unaware of that. I don't think he thinks he's one of them. I think he definitely wanted to be down with the in-crowd. 100% wants to be down. Chris, you wrote the book? 100% wants to be down. Come here, Chris. We need you right now. I think he definitely wants to be part of the in-crowd. He's always wanted to be part of the in-crowd. And we're not having a political discussion, Chris. We're just talking about character. You wrote a book about Trump. Now, careful. You're in the shots, Chris. What was the book about? Chris, you're behind you. There's two cameras. Yeah. And I will say the reason I bought Chris in is because even before Donald Trump was president, Chris has been telling me these kind of stories. So I know that they're not coming from a biased place. This is just his opinion of Donald Trump. This isn't political. This is... I'm just giving you a character evaluation of Donald Trump. Yes, come this way a little bit. Yeah. I did not write a book for Donald Trump. I wrote a book for his daughter, Ivanka. Right, right. I was fired. You've been writing some problematic literature, bro. Yo, you were the curse, bro. Real talk.  Yo, what is your record for authored Me Too's talk? Yo, you're undefeated, bro. It's almost like... It's almost like not enough copies moving. I got a story for you. Chris, when you got a point, you got a point. Yo, it's the worst ghost writer in history, son. Chris, you got a record, bro. You got a resume. Bro, when's that Kevin Spacey book coming out? He's working on it right now. He's working on Harvey Weinstein's Life After Prison book. Now, Chris, so tell us. Character assessment of Donald Trump. Yeah. I think he was on the outside of what you would call the in-crowd. I think Ivanka was very much groomed to be on the inside. Yes. And I think that's where it gets interesting because I think she was part of that scene. I mean, when I was working for her, they asked me to interview her friends, and her friends were all, you know, Rupert Murdoch's wife. Yeah. Carlos Slim, basically the Mexican billionaire. The Mexican billionaire. They're kids. No, no, them. He positioned her to be friends with all those people that he couldn't maybe get access to because they thought he was too crass. He wasn't grandfathered in, but she could be born in. He looked at Trump as a nigger. Well, that is a harsh way of looking at it. That's just the truth. They thought he was ghetto and trash. Out of borough, which was a big deal. Out of borough. That's right, he's from Queens. He's from Queens. He's not a city kid. He didn't go to the... Y'all look at it like that? I didn't know y'all looked at things like that. Oh, dude, it's... Yeah. Within those circles, yeah. Dude, humans have hierarchies, no matter where we are, we have hierarchies. Somebody was telling me a story about when they were in... Oh, fuck, what was it?  And there was a club. And I think it was... Yeah, my buddy Ben, he was like, I mean, Namibia, he was in this club. It was outside. And they had a VIP section in the club that just had two plastic chairs. Outside, two plastic chairs.   Right. We need it. That's crazy. It is crazy. I don't know if you're up, but it's not to look down, but it's just like how can I find a way to have some value over you without doing any work? Because I look at it from a hip hop perspective. Queens got all the best rappers. What do you want in Manhattan? Manhattan? What do you want in Manhattan? Well, I mean... Billionaires usually don't define their worth by who has the best rappers. I know. Let me tell you how my perspective looks. Yeah, I know. I'm just... But it's also true that... Yo, bring Donald in, you know, run DMCs from Queens. But look, a lot of... A lot of rappers gravitated to Trump before this. To hang out with Trump was the song that you had made it as a rapper. And Trump rapped towards a lot of rappers. You know why? Because Trump had the money. He was the playboy. And so back then, all those rappers, that was probably the richest person they knew and had access to. So they were showing mad love. And furthermore, they were all faking it until they made it. Right. Rappers were acting like they had tons of money when they didn't. And Donald Trump was acting like he had tons of money when he didn't. And you know what?  And Donald Trump ended up getting tons of money. Trump didn't have tons of money, though. He just wasn't a billionaire. So here's the thing. And you know this now because you're operating with these guys. You have tons of money compared to Taylor.  No, they're printing money. They're printing money. They're talking about their vacations are my life savings. Exactly. Life savings. Life savings. So everything is relative, right? So if you're Trump and you're the poorest one in the group, you think you're broke. Yeah, he don't even own Trump Towers. Right. He licenses the name. Yeah, he's licensed. That's what I learned when I was working for them and researching the organization. Everything is licensed the name, put down as little as your own money as possible.  That's it. Yeah. Like that was his whole hustle. And I guess it worked for him. Yeah. So I'm saying At least not the first person to not put money down. No. No. I did. I said I wanted, I wanted to, I just wanted to, I can see, I can play white devil's advocate with one thing, right? Go. Donald Trump. No political experience whatsoever. Mm-hmm. The highest seat in the land. Mm-hmm. Bro.  Mm-hmm. Of course. Like what are we, like we're acting like this guy was some skilled politician who knows the ins and outs of politics, what he should be doing, what he shouldn't be doing. It's easy to say, hey, all you got to do is listen to this person and it probably is that easy. But he's not, he's probably, he's like, I'm not listening to you motherfuckers.  This was destined to crash and burn. This is why the United States of America really needs to put some qualifications on being president, bro. Like you have to have a certain educational level and you have to have a certain level of political experience. This is not a game to be played with, man. You know what's interesting that you say that?  Abusive power. Outside of abusive power, right? The way that he got caught is such a a political way to get caught. Right? It's a rookie move. Exactly. It's an inexperienced move, right? Because a politician would have known how to get that message there. What do they call it? Backhandling? Yeah, with enough cushion. With enough cushion. Right. What he did was a real estate move which is, hey, I want to build this building in New Hampshire. Who's the guy going up for Congress in New Hampshire? Right. You know what? Get me on the phone with that guy. Hey, listen, you want to... You want me to donate to your campaign? Yeah, but hey, I can't donate to your campaign. I will donate to your campaign. I would love to because there's that space. But you want this thing I want, right? That's exactly what you did. No, I'm not saying that this money's for that. I'm just saying, wouldn't it be great if we had this building and your campaign? That is classic New York, well, not only New York, but just a real estate hustle when you're dealing at the highest level. And that's what I wish everybody who supports Trump, right?   Right. Right.  Sure.  Yeah, yeah.  It was a rookie inexperience move. It was a rookie move. You should have expected him to make this move. And he doesn't put smart people around him, which is something I learned working with him is, I mean, you could put me in that category, but, like, he, you know, like, honestly. That's hilarious. He doesn't hire smart people. Right. He hired me. No, but seriously, like, I know how they do stuff. The number one qualification to get hired by them, and this was true in the election, I'm sure it's true in the administration is they want the cheapest person. No matter what they have. There's a blueprint they follow on every deal. Like, for instance, when they were negotiating with me, it was, okay, this, let's say hypothetically, it's $100,000 job. Yeah. Right. They say, listen, you should do this for $50,000. And we know it's under market. This is exactly what they told me. But if you do it for us, you're going to have so much shine around your name after you're connected to a Trump success. He really is a rapper. Right. That it'll be worth it. Yo, this exposure, bro. Right. Hey, give me 16 bars.  And like, I was literally on, Ivanka was like calling me up at midnight, arguing over $5,000. Yeah. Like, they literally tried to squeeze. And you quit? So what happened was, they gave you Lyme's disease. Right. They gave me Lyme's, the orange version. But like... They gave you orange. No. Let's say it's a $100,000 job. Yeah. You do it for $50,000. Yeah. Then halfway through, she brought me in and she was like, it's clear to me, and I've been going to her apartment twice a week, hours and hours of talking. It's clear to me, you don't respect my family. Right. And I was like, I don't. Wow. You know, like... Well, me, I don't say that because you're not, you're not a reserve person. I'm a reserve. There was an incident where, and this kind of comes back to what you're talking about with the thin skin. Paper thin. She said, I want you to come into a meeting with my father to watch how he operates. So, it's a meeting in Trump Tower and they're going over the hallways in a hotel resort that they're building. And at first, it's just her, an interior designer and architect for 45 minutes. All right. If we spend this much on the rug, this many units will be this much. Hold on. Can you hold this story for one second?  Go do it. I got this. Press pause. Oh, you know what? I'll do a mid-roll. I'll do a mid-roll. We'll come back and Chris will finish this story, which I was very intrigued by. You can tell Chris writes books.  All right. Now, Postmates, other than your absolute best friends, who could you ask to bring you red wine at 4 p.m., sushi at 9 p.m., and a breakfast burrito at 8 a.m.? 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It's an interior designer. It's an architect. They're going over the interior of the whatever hotel they're building and they're doing the rugs, the lighting, the door fixtures, how much it's going to cost to do 300 of these, 400 of these. Boring, but okay. This is how you make a hotel. After about 45 minutes, Trump himself comes in. He immediately starts revealing their stuff. How come he didn't do it this way to the interior designer? How come you could have saved us this amount doing this way? You could have saved us $1,000 doing this. What about this? What about this?  Like these guys have been like fumbling over the figures and he just came in and he was like razor sharp. Like, why don't you do this? Why don't you do that? Why don't you do that? You could have done that. What are you doing? And he made his point and I was like, okay, I'm impressed. But then he kept going at this guy and going at this guy and going at this guy and go to the point where the guy literally almost started to cry. Like it wasn't a physical beat down, but it was an emotional beat down. And he just kept going and finally, I'm just supposed to be a fly on the wall. Finally, you guys can't see this unless you're watching the video, but I just went like that. You did the emoji. I put my emoji. Like what the fuck? What's wrong? Like what are you doing? It's too much. It's just lines, bro. Right, it's just lines. So they pulled me out. Ivanka pulls me out into the elevator and she's like, listen, I know that look really bad. I know how that came off, but you got to understand it's not personal. That's just how we get the best margins on our deal. Like, but... Yelling at people and emotionally abusing them. He destroyed this dude. Can I tell you something? What? For that, he's my hero. Okay.  Six months.  Stole my money for six months. And I didn't have the balls. I was too poor to yell at them. I was too poor to hire another contractor.   Oh my God. Well, the guy hadn't done anything yet. They were just planning it. But okay, maybe you can say the guy was setting it up to get better margins. I don't know. This is one of the more outrageous things I've ever seen. I did the shrug. That was problem number one. Problem number two was I wrote a passage where I described Trump Towers as glitzy. And they didn't like that. She pulled me in. She said, why would you describe my family's building as glitzy? What's wrong with glitzy? Well, I was like, it's literally the definition of glitzy. Glitzy is gold all over it. It's like covered in gold. So she was like, why would you try to portray us that way? You know, glitzy implies like cheap, garish, not classy. Really? Yeah. So that was a problem. Then the other problem is she said I used too many colloquialisms. And this is where we had a problem. I don't even know what that is.  It's great actually. Just like eggnog, got some rum in it. I love it. I had some last week. Tiffany Haddish was walking around. So she goes to me. She says, I don't know if the rapper's friends talk that way, but I don't talk that way. Whoa. And I said, excuse me. And she goes, okay, maybe that came off wrong. And I was like, all right. Whoa. We got a problem here. So. She pulled out. Well, I mean, I would have kept doing it frankly because I won the money. But so what they did is she came in and she, you know, she gave me this big speech. I've given it a lot of consideration. I really like you, but it's not working out. And I was like, look, I just, I was miserable. I was talking about this with my wife the other day. I was like going around hoping that car would hit me and just like break my legs. So I was just like, Just quit. Why didn't you just quit? No, I should have just quit. I'm a worker. Just quit. I should have. And I would, but I just had a baby. That's why you still got Limes, dude. Well, I just don't quit it. You don't want to quit it. Right. I should just.  Just be gone. Thoughts? So anyway, long story short, they get rid of me. Then they go and they do the same thing. But I'm showing you the Trump business model. So they get rid of me. Yeah. Then they go to somebody else. I think it was like a woman in California and they said, listen, we got this book. It's three quarters of the way done. It's a $40,000 job because it's really almost done. But do it for 20. Do it for 20. Hot. So. Hot fire. Same speech. So they get a $100,000 job for, maybe they paid me 10 or 15. I just gave, I was like, I don't care about the money. I handed over all the notes.  And so they get a, they get a $100,000 job for 15. I'll be honest with you, Chris. I brought you in here because I thought you were going to tell us a story about Donald Trump's then ego. You just told us how you got the tariff done. Yo. Good negotiator. Good negotiator. Listen. Listen. Or the deal. I've never said that. I don't think Trump is smart.  You've never. I think the guy is.  That's what people like. Well, I think, I think he has zero moral center and I think he has zero self-awareness. I mean, the other thing was they pulled me out for doing the shrug. And maybe you shouldn't do that shrug in my position, but I interviewed one of Ivanka's friends. Same thing. She got kicked off his private jet because they were watching TV and a joke came on about his hair and she laughed at and they pulled. Now see, that's the thing. Ignite that show.  And they're like, you don't do that.  I don't know exactly how it happened, but she was like, whatever you do, she was trying to hit me. She was like, whatever you do, don't make a joke about this guy.  Huh?  You and Trump could never be friends. Why would we want to be friends? I'm just saying, if y'all was, because you liked the joke, like he would hate you. Oh, yeah. He could dish it out. He can make jokes. He can make over. Teeth are going to fall out. He loves that stuff. Most people, this is what I've learned just from being a comedy general. Most people who like dish it out cannot take it. Comedy.  Life.  They're fun.  You're like, oh, it's a facade? They don't know. They're not confrontational. So it's like, when you have that confrontation with them, and it's not a confrontation in a bad way.  Oh, we got this. Let's go.  And then they break down. I can't work with people like that. Bro. It's one of the easiest things working with you. Is I can say whatever. Bro.   I laugh when Don L. Don L. Don L. Don L. Text. Wild. Wild. You think his Instagram is wild. What is it? Bro. I'm going to show you something Don L. said. You can't repeat it, bro.  Rolling this week.  Right. And I'm explaining to him sarcasm and hyperbole. All right, look, all right. So look. So he sends me this picture. No, I got to show you. He goes, he sends me this picture. So it's me on all fours and Speedos with 6ix9ine coming out of jail. And he says, the bed is a bed, son. I said it's called sarcasm, son.  You a comedian. You should understand the joke. He said, nope, nope, nope. He said, Chappelle, Pryor, and Biggie have all joked like that. You're not a comedian, son. You don't want any of the most powerful n***a voices in our culture, son. You help n***as with mental illness. Comedians not helping with mental illness, son. Open one for your loved ones and so does CNN. You're not a comedian, son. I said, Biggie wasn't a comedian. Easy. Grow up. Stop being homophobic.  So he goes, people don't take me serious. We can't take you funny, son. I said, Biggie said you look so good.  Hello? You still there explaining Biggie. So he talked about his gay brother. My brother, Chuck, he said, a bet is a bet, and he wants the winner. So he goes, I won't interrupt you in 6ix9ine. Stop being homophobic. So I said, explain Biggie. He said, nope, probably was a ghost writer, son.  Chappelle, Pryor, Biggie, real n***as.  They thought wax is the only one. You can't dodge this one with your big words, son. Don Lemon wants the truth. He said, plus you have too much history with 6ix9ine. We saw how serious you were about him beating that case. Trey Way, drop on the clues bombs.  I say, I missed the old New York.  Don't repeat this. No goodie put. Yo, son, come on, son. Come on, son. You can't do that to the audience. Okay. So then I will tell the audience this point. So listen.  That's fact, son.  He goes, sarcasm. But I'm saying all that to say, that's how we joke. Yes. I do not like people who dish it, but can't take it. Yes. I actually despise them. Yo, and those people low key get exposed, man.  All the time. Yeah. What did I tell you this week, Taylor?  I'm not saying. I'm not saying. Can I say? No. Do I know? I'm not saying. Male or female? I'm not saying. Oh, I know. I'm just saying a lot of people can dish it. Oh, I know. A lot of people can dish it, but they can't take it, bro. I know. Can we get a sound board?  Chris's people? You can say the smallest thing. Like not even like a. No, no, no. Just a jab. Fall apart. Oh. Fall apart. Oh. Fall apart. Oh. I listen to a great podcast with Peter Vassity, the basketball writer the other day. Yes. And he accused part. Oh, I forget. What happened to Joe? I forget him and Andrew fell out. Oh, okay. Y'all still ain't reconciled? I mean, we talk. It's not a big deal. I don't hold nothing. I can't hold grudges. I haven't even heard from Joe in a minute. It's a text every night. Anyway. Vessy senior called out Barkley as being one of those people. Who does what? Who will say anything about anybody. Yo.   He is literally, they make fun of him nonstop. He allows it. Yeah. I think that is the biggest horseshit comment. Dia, maybe if you like, call out his criticism. I don't know. Maybe you call it his criticism of his NBA career. It's different. But as far as having a sense of humor about himself and being self-deprecating and like letting Shaq tackle him and beat him up and like immaculate him.  He put costumes on? Yeah. No, dude, he is. Yeah, I don't believe that about Barkley. I don't buy that. Maybe Barkley just don't like Peter. Fat. And that's the other thing, too.  Really? Yeah. It was a great interview. But I was like, I could see why people don't like this guy. He was the troll back in the day. Like, remember when Carl Malone lost the fucking? It was after Game 6. He had just lost the finals. To the Bulls? To the Bulls. And he's interviewing. And what does he say? He's like, is this the lowest point of your career? And it's like, for what? That's a good question. The guy's still sweating. That's a great time to have that. That's what he said. He said, look, my job is to go in there and ask the tough questions. That's a great time to have that. They talk about that. Is it a great question to ask if losing your first NBA finals is the low point of your career? By the way, if you ask LeBron that, LeBron will say no. No, no, no. But LeBron would have a great answer to that question. LeBron was like, I live real life. No, no, no. That'd be life. He says it's the low point of your career. Career or sport? Of course it's the low point of your career. In my perspective, it was. I don't think that was Carl's low point of his career.  Low point of Carl's career. Low point of Carl's career when they tried to make him play Maddie Johnson and Maddie Johnson at HIV. He did not want to be out there. What was Carl contemplating retirement? His T-cell count low. That's what Carl was talking about. That's a fact. That was the problem. His T-cells were dipping. T-cells were low. When the T-cells are low, it's an issue. We're getting scientific. That's when Carl absolutely was not going on that court with Maddie Johnson. That's when he was contemplating retirement. Carl said, what if he bleeds on me? Now think about how times have changed back then. Well, he could say something like that. Have they changed? Yes. You know why? Because he could say something like that. Ain't that what you're thinking? Exactly. A bunch of people were thinking that. We didn't know we were uneducated to HIV. I was a kid. I had no idea what HIV was. No, I'm educated. Think the same way. No, stop it, man. I think no differently.   You're telling me somebody got the full-blown hit. Yeah. He doesn't. What? But he thought he did, but he doesn't. Who knows if someone does back or not. But now you're saying someone full-blown hit, you guys are playing a pickup game. My man is in the post, elbows out. If you fight for boards. If he starts bleeding.  If he starts bleeding, I'm calling timeout. If. If. I'm calling timeout. Son. I'm calling timeout. We're not taking these risks. They do that in the NBA now, by the way. We're not taking these risks, bro. You know they do that in the NBA now. What? If you start bleeding. Right. They stop the game. And that's because of that. Good. I don't want your blood on me, bro. Absolutely, absolutely. So you can't be upset for people for feeling like that. No, you can't. Why do we even have to like argue this?  I have every right to protect myself. No, no, you can. It's not prejudice. You can live with the hiviness.  You got to explain fucking. Got to let people know. Yeah. That's all. Bro, if you were playing naked basketball and someone's like, I just want to let everybody here know I got herpes. You gonna play? Yes. Why would you play naked basketball?  I wouldn't be playing naked basketball. If you in your homies is playing naked basketball, right? Post moves only. It's mad people living with it. It's mad people living with HIV. Like, you know, it's not the death sentence that it once was. You just got to let people know, be aware of your status. Like, it's actually some cool ways they could like market people with HIV. Easy. Go. Naughty by nature. You done with HIV? Yeah, you know me? Have a whole hotline. I'm serious. Run commercials, run. I'm dead serious. Run commercials, run ads. So you have a community for people who all have HIV and they can date each other. I'm dead serious. That can work. Right. I actually think, and I'm not 100% certain of this, but I think there are different strands of it. And I think that they can give each other the different strands, which increases the effect of the disease potential. I know nothing about that. Of the virus. Am I right about that, Chris? Kind of like Lyme's. Kind of like Lyme's. Kind of like cystic fibrosis. Yep. There's different levels of Lyme's? Sure. Bro, there's lemon. They got it. Lyme's. You put Lyme with ginger. They got a whole Moscow mule, bro. You ought to be careful. Moscow mule, bro. Listen, so listen, to put a cap on this Trump shit, where does it go from here? Hmm. Because we know the Senate's not going to vote the impeachment. Right. So, Charmin, you kind of understand this better than I do. What is the political process exactly going on? The House votes. Yeah. To get him impeached, so he's impeached. So you need a 51% majority in the House. And 67. I think it's either 57 or 67. 67. You need two-thirds majority. Okay, that's what it is. So House needs 51% to impeach. Now, that then goes to the Senate. They need two-thirds to get him removed from office. And it's not going to happen. I mean, the Senate, the Senate's controlled by the Republicans right now. Right. So it's not going to happen. But we've been saying this. Like, there's nobody who has not been saying this. So the goal of this is just to disrupt and try to, like, tarnish the brand for 2020. I think the goal is checks and balances, man. I mean, listen, if you believe in country over party, if you believe in, you know, president's not being lawless, then you should agree with Trump being impeached. And by the way, it might help Trump. It might help Trump. That's the thing is, I think these types of things just emboldened his base, man. But I think it might help him. Ah. To let him know. Oh, operate better.   It's interesting. When stuff like this happens, it's got to be at least one person. Maybe it's Ivanka.  Chris, make the call. I got it. Make the call case. I'm serious. Like, yo, it just may help him. And she is the one that he listens to. It's clear that out of the entire family, she's the one. Definitely not the other daughter. He's been hiding her progress. I would love to know what she thinks. She's under a bridge. I would love to know what she thinks about this. She's been very, very quiet. I would love to know what she thinks about this whole situation. I think she supports her father a hundred percent. I mean, you can support him, but you can still say he's not. It was my impression. I think, I think she thinks he's misunderstood. I think she, she's struck me as someone who was, I mean, you could say any child is brainwashed about their parent. Any child loves their parent, but also when you see your parent succeed against all odds. Right. Even if you're not the child, you start to believe what they say. Right. I'm sure early in your career, and you started to experience this with the people around you.  Do you remember, you remember your peers earlier in your career when you started to like, No. Never once when you came to New York. I haven't gotten to that level yet. Hold on. When you came to New York and then breakfast clubs start to blow up. No.   I don't know. That pain doesn't do that to you, man. What is happening? Who's got the board? You got the board? Was that you saying that? That was me saying that. I don't even know what I was talking about. Surge? No, I wasn't talking about Surge. I was talking about, I might have been talking about a woman. I might have been talking about the little girl that got picked her kidnapping in New York. She did it for her boyfriend. I thought she did it because her mom wanted to take her back to Honduras.  Why would she have to? Because they moved back to Honduras. They were supposed to be, the word on the curve is, the family was moving back to Honduras. Why? I don't know. They're from Honduras. They wanted to move back to Honduras and she had a boyfriend in the Bronx. Usually it's the other way, right? Usually people are like dying to get from Honduras to America. Dubal's been in Honduras for two weeks. So he had to go check out what they want to get to so bad. I don't know. Dr. Sebi's from Honduras. People I know from Honduras love Honduras. Right. Yeah. I know my man Mr. G. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. I think Honduras probably like any place else. Everybody leaves their country, loves it. You ever know that?  Like Sebi was living in Honduras. That's what left her. I got killed, right? I got killed, but that's what she got. People go to Honduras. Like I said, Dubal's there now. But she didn't want to move back. And so they said she faked the kidnapping with her boyfriend in order not to move back. So I could have been talking about that situation and saying that penis would do it to you.  You know what I mean? But isn't her boyfriend super old? That's what I heard. I don't know if that's true or not. He is. Oh yeah, he's committing a crime. Yeah, they gotta handle that. But yeah, I never got that from my peers. From your peers. I still think they still think. It's luck? I'm crazy. I don't know. But you know what though? I know history will be kind. Yes. That I know. That I know to all, at some point. Maybe not your peers. But what about, I think people who have achieved success recognize success. And they recognize the, I don't know, the qualities that get you there. Yes. So these other people. Not peers, but people who have already achieved success. They go, ah, he's got it. He's on to something. And I think regular people. I think people that are just, you know, on the outside looking in peers. No. Because peers are competing. They're competing. Yeah.  Did you, I'm curious if you experienced as well. Did you experience love from like other markets? Like DJs from other markets that they show you love before the ones that were like close to you? DJs from other markets. Like did West Coast show you love? Because first, like, because there wasn't this competition. It was like, yo, that new guy's dope. And I don't got to worry about him. I mean, radio personality show love from other places. Like, you know, I got plenty of friends in the radio industry. My man had Kendra G. But I think that you never, you don't realize that these people are also in competition with you until they have a, they have an opportunity to take a shot at you. You know what I'm saying?  They save me and Angel E. Beef or whatever, whatever. Then I'll see other personalities and comments on, on Instagram. Not even just you, but just like Shade Room or whatever saying little things like, yeah, he should have stuck up for her or this and that. But when they see me, it's a whole nother story. You know what I'm saying? So publicly, you'll take an opportunity to take a shot. But you, and I said that before I said, you know, when it comes to situations like that, you got to be very careful because that's when people try to infiltrate. And that's when you really realize how they feel about you and your situation.  So if they think that the Titanic could be sinking. They get in there. They want to be invested in that demise.   Interesting. You know what I mean? So it ain't even really, it ain't even really about her. It's more about sinking the whole boat. That's it. Because at the end of the day, if you take two guys and a woman, put them in a studio. You take this guy and put him in a studio, like whatever it is, why aren't, why isn't your show doing what their show is doing? Right. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. So it's still a competition. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Regardless of we're in the same market at night, it's still a competition.  So being that the world is flat. YouTube videos go out. Social media follows all of this different stuff. So why are they doing millions of views? Simple. Yeah. Simple. Yeah. Yeah, that's interesting. So your peers will never really truly give it up. But that's why I give it up. Yeah. I give it up because I'm not insecure about my position. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like I give it up. That's how I've always, that's how I've always felt. I've always just tried to support the people that I thought were good. And now I have really specific tastes. Like I don't think everybody's good. I'm going to tell you something though. Yeah. 2020 bro. Yeah.  Yeah. You know the seeds that have been planted. Yeah. You know what's coming.  Can we start now? Okay, let's go. Can we start talking a little shit?   Like y'all must have. Y'all must have. Like by the way, maybe you just don't know. Maybe you just don't know who's really pushing things in this culture. You know what? Who's really connecting these dots. Who's really moving and shaking. You need to constantly fight for your rep. Like we are living a what have you done for me lately society, man.  But you need to constantly show what is going on. I'll give you a perfect example. I don't like talking. Don't rest on your laurels. I guess is what I'm trying to say. I don't know who Laurel is. What do you mean? I don't know either. I really just said that with no clue what that means. I know Laurel and Hardy. Yeah. You say rest on your Laurel. I'm like, is that me? We don't rest on this person. I think I was using hyperbole. We had a brother.  Yes. Nation of Islam. Nation of Islam. My people too. We've had Minister Farrakhan, the Honorable Minister Lewis Farrakhan. I first interviewed him in 2005. Yeah. I've interviewed him for his documentary that you can buy on finalcall.com. I've had him on breakfast club twice. You know, brother Wesley Muhammad had him on. Brother Tony Muhammad had him on. It's another very dynamic speaker in the nation of Islam. His name is Brother Noir Muhammad. I've been following Noir for a long time. A couple of weeks ago, I get a text from my man, Brother Don Muhammad. And he was like, we need equal time. And whenever the brothers in the nation say they need equal time, that means that somebody has said something about them that they would like to rebuttal. Right. So on Joe Budden's podcast, I guess Joe asked the question, who killed Malcolm X? And I'm somebody in the room with very wide hips said something to the extent of, you know, he said something to the extent of, he said something to the extent of, you know who did it. And basically said it was the NOI. And so the NOI wanted to rebuttal. So I connected Joe with Brother Don. Yeah. Brother Noir was supposed to be on Joe's actual podcast, but I think it ended up being a call in or whatever. I have no problem doing things like that. The reason I have no problem doing things like that is because I want people who have something to say to be on every platform possible. And I understand Joe has a platform that a lot of people listen to. So if that kind of, you know, a false narrative is out there, I want to give the brothers in the NOI a chance to clean that up. And I'm glad that... What'd they say? I thought that was the case. Oh no, that's definitely not the case. Who killed him? It wasn't the NOI, it was the FBI. But I mean it's like, it was the craziest thing in the world to think that anybody else would kill Malcolm X in that time where J. Edgar Hoover was taking out every black organization. Right. Like the same people who took out Martin Luther King Jr., same people who took out Fred Hampton. The only difference is it goes back to what I was talking about earlier. If you can cause disruption in a team, at a time when a team is having turmoil? Yeah. But didn't Malcolm break away from... You killed two birds with one stone? Didn't he break away from the NOI? Yeah, but that wasn't... That was because he didn't agree with Elijah Muhammad's moral stance when it came to fathering children with other women. Right. So morally he felt betrayed. Because this is the guy that he believed in. He looked up to this is the guy that taught him. He also, I think, went to Mecca and felt like he found a different version. That was part of it too. He saw white Muslims and things like that. That was a part of it too.   No, that's not what happened. It's led! Yeah, but listen, gotta be very careful when talking about certain people. Because when we talk about the rappers pulling up, rappers may not pull up, but them brothers in bow ties will. Yo, let me tell you something. They are scarier. Bro. Dude, brother moves on in the wire. Do you remember that character? The brother moves on. He was the guy that they hired. They had a guy come down from New York. Hitman.  And he was there in the suit and tie. Amazing character. Anyway, go on. Yeah, so long story short, connect brother Don and Joe, brother Nuri gets on the podcast, whatever. And they spoke. So, of course, I'm gonna have brother Nuri on the breakfast club. Right. You had brother Nuri on the breakfast club. So now people are like, yo, you just trying to do- My God. Yeah.  Right.  And that's what I'd be saying when I'm talking about like, this isn't new. This isn't new territory. We've been, at least I've been doing stuff like this and giving brothers like the platform. How many people would even make that comment? Enough for me to notice. Like what? That's just me though. I notice all that information. Yeah, I feel like you might be even be giving oxygen to it.  Y'all motherfuckers gonna learn in 2020 by hooking by goddamn crook.  You sound like someone called your hotel glitzy. No. I'm- No. What I'm- No. I just like dealing with the reality of the situation. Let's deal with reality. Let's stop with the falsehoods and let's stop with the false narratives. All right?   It's not even about credit. It's just about what's true and what's not true. So if you make a false statement, and by the way, all of us have the right to do that. If somebody makes a false statement about you, you're allowed to tell them exactly what the truth is. A hundred percent. That's it. And you have to control your narrative because if you don't, the people will.  So they're gonna control it in a way that you don't like. What do they say? History is written by the winners. But I will say this though. Yeah. I think that- I think that- I think that- I think that- I think that- I think that- I think that- I think that this week shows, you can't escape reality. And you can't argue against reality. You could say whatever you want. You could try to paint whatever narrative you want online. You can say whatever you want about people online.  I don't care how many people don't believe it. Right?  I don't care how many people don't believe the truth. It's still the truth. And at the end of the day reality will always prevail. I had a big week. I had a big week Maybe we'll pay some bills and I'll come back. We'll talk about it. Sounds good.  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This has been a pretty cool week for me, but um that goes along with that perfectly reality will always prevail and I basically I just signed a deal for my first network stand-up special big dick show see building I Well, I signed I can't say the company that is releasing it I can say the production company that I partner up with it on it and Comedy dynamics, but I'll tell the story. I told a longer version of the story on on Flagrant to you guys to check out if you want to hear the whole thing But basically what happened is long story short is when I was releasing views from the system my last special I was in LA a week before and I tell this story just because I think it's important to understand your worth right and it's like a week before I'm about to release it We get a call from this production company called Comedy Dynamics and they're like hey We want to talk to you we'd like to potentially release your special now before that nobody wants to release it all right I sit down like I'm about to release on YouTube and they go don't release it We'll make you an offer and I go okay. It's got to be a million dollars, right? Now nobody else wanted it But I put the value at a million dollars Now they go I Don't I don't know about that, but I think we think you're great blah blah blah I said that's on totally a release on YouTube You know theaters tours start to happen. I have a lot of success. Everything's great.    You got hot.  It's good We get a call from Netflix Netflix goes Hey, we want to give Andrew Schultz a slot in this show called the degenerates where I do 15 minutes with a bunch of other Comics also do 15 minutes. Don L didn't did it, you know, and a few other people are focused on it I wouldn't do that files you the way I looked at it was this I go I go I put my stuff out for free on Twitter and Instagram and YouTube like I got nothing I got nothing wrong with taking 25 grand for I think they're often 25 grand 15 minutes So we're like, well, I'm interested in it. You know, like The next day we get a call from comedy dynamics that other production company They say hey, what's Andrew up to? You know, we heard JFL is really good. What's Andrew up to my agent TJ Shots of TJ was really smart. He goes he just got an offer from Netflix. He don't say it was for He goes we got an offer in Netflix. So they go don't sign anything.  Can Andrew be the first episode? Can he have his face on the thing?   We have a couple days Comedy dynamics comes back with a contract. My agent sits me down.  He sits me down He goes here it is check it out. I look at the contract the contract is for the next special That's for a million dollars For you for me. Okay.  He was like, what do you mean? Like we just got it We I was like, well, that's how much the last special is for Things have changed now.  Is that all you this summer dick?  What's that? I go it's principle It's like I don't for me.  He goes, I can't believe I'm doing this. So we go back. We say no We get the call back a couple days later and You know the price went up So who's it with? Comey dynamics of the production company and and then we It's not it's not a network, but it's a so it's a product that makes it No, no, no that makes it and then we sold it to a network that I can't say yet But you guys will know the new in the in the future and I gave a hint some people might forget it I can't legally say anything right now, but I gave a little bit of a hint Point is is it Like for a while I gave away all my content for free and I think what happens a lot of time is like You're in this business, too It's like we give away so much for free, but just because you give some away doesn't mean it's valueless You know used to give a crack away Yo, I'm being honest like you get crack away to let the fiends know like yo motherfuckers got that good-ass dope over there And when it's time to hit them over the head There it is. He'll take a little $10 bump room.   Yeah, that's right Costco the bagel bites on that shit So it's one of those things where I was like this was pretty cool And then we just had to decide where we're gonna do the special so I want to do it in LA and I thought it'd be really cool because I see as the Hollywood, you know matrix is kind of crumbling This becomes one of the first if not the first special where it's like completely people driven It's like the entertainment revolution where now you got to have your fan base and your fan base is gonna bring you on top Like the people listening watching all these Podcasts and clips and everything like that. They literally got this deal sign And they love you in a different way because you've built this coat like following from the ground up These motherfuckers have been they built it.  You know, I mean watching guide code Like yo motherfuckers that problem is different you six seven years are going to like that's our guy That's bro and and when you win is their win and I never understood his Duvall would always post about he's like, yo My win is your win and I didn't understand it. We released the tickets for the special tapings We're taping April 11th in LA and I gave a pre-sale code and the pre-sale code was gonna be available Tuesday Wednesday Thursday This comes out Thursday today And I just wanted to be for flagrant to brilliant idiots and then anybody follows me on Instagram YouTube so they would know about it We're doing it the Orpheum theater in LA. That's the theater Dolomite Shot at mm-hmm. You know the one of the final scene And I'm doing it for that reason because I love everything that he represented.  I'll be there. I would love you to put that on the counter and That we released the tickets pre-sale and they sold out in 12 hours both shows Wow This is a massive theater bro.   You've been working Yeah, you got hot.  Yeah, always Yeah, never fails. Yeah, it's not one person. I know that has talent who was working hard Yeah, did not get something back out of it. Yeah, you got your just do I just felt amazing man to like It feels surreal it felt surreal To have that many people want me to win and like people want to fly there for that experience and feel So invested in my success it was overwhelming dude like because it could be lonely the business, you know And like when you realize you have that many people Ruined for you and like Bro, just yeah, this is the time when you got to really put your helmet on and really grab your motherfucking arsenal Because when you're so used to fighting Right.  I cannot wait It's a different.  It's different.  Yes, that's it And it's like I mean, I'm just so excited and just to let you guys know if you we're gonna try to add another show maybe that Sunday and I'm talking to production about or maybe try to find more seats or whatever like that in it But so so if any of you guys are just hearing about this now we could make that happen But just keep you know tabs on Instagram Twitter or whatever like that. I'll probably post about it But it was it. Thank you man. Thank you for everything, bro I really appreciate you and just like giving me access to so many of your fans and like Let me do it this now you do man You played a huge role in all of this and it's like I am forever grateful and and it's one of those things that like I Tried to pass down as well.   That's the announcement too. So so there's announcement too, right? For we've been working for a while been working for months on this But I just built out this new content, you know factory in in Brooklyn and it's got You know multiple podcast studios like a little live performance space Like it's I mean it's got the green screen It's got everything that we need to keep like churning out content Obviously, I know it's far away to do idiots there.  It's just like everything we're doing is disrupting. It's rebellion and like every rebellion or like revolution It's the same thing.  Yeah. I am so excited for 2020 to 2025.  What do you mean? Us nigga. Oh, okay Okay, but the Duvall's of the world the andrew shows is like we winning bro. Isn't it crazy winning?  That's why when I see blue face talking to duval I'm like You don't even talk like knock it off. You don't even talk like duvall been winning out here for 20 plus years Yeah, before He was putting out hit records and all of that stuff like that. Duvall been texting me all morning about About what Honduras? No, he actually asked me something.  Oh, no, he asked me about trump and then he said Hey, they really bring a good good times back Whatever, but I don't know the context is but my more the more the story is when I see those guys like blue face I'm like blue face. Don't relax kid.  That's cute All right, duvall been around for 20 plus years He didn't even understand he didn't realize that he was criticizing himself like in the blue blue face one point goes Yeah, duvall had a nice little viral moment. Everybody has those. It's like who's talking Who is saying that exactly you are that Exactly and you're experiencing the slow decline of your viral moment. Like duvall didn't go platinum. Yeah, he went gold Son, you know what I'm saying? He went gold and that's a hard earned gold. How many comedians go gold with an album?  Wow, and he was like he's like radio radio person. Are you got the clip or blue face?   So once you try to rap they're not gonna take you That's not true.  You know who referred to herself as a comedian for years before she became the biggest female rapper in history Cardi B If you look at cardi's earlier posts, she used to do it. Yeah, she used to do sketches and she called herself a comedian Yeah, she now wasn't stand-up specifically, but she didn't enter the game as like a rapper rapper. Yeah By the way, dc young fly. He's gonna blow up in the music. He's young. Is it happening? Yes dc young fly reminds me of like what jaymie fox Does like he's that he's got he's got that level talent He's talented.  We've seen a million of those come in gold You know what I mean? But bruce bruce still out here getting this guy to get money All right, duvall and I are getting money for 20 plus. Yeah, then I saw him putting up the Celebrity net worth and I'm worth 4 million and duvall's worth 1.5 like This celebrity net worth.   I was broke Wow, yeah They say I'm worth 10 How accurate are we? And you can't spend a mill on her What was the feedback to the meek thing I know we got to get out of here, but what was it People from the meek interview the meek interview from what I see. I mean, I just like having those um I just like having those conversations. I loved it.  You can't be a billionaire. You know what i'm saying? He's gonna be a billionaire.   I was down in salt lake city Anyhow Mormons can't have coffee. They can't have alcohol.     You got to listen to hundred two thousand on rick rumour. I got I got to check that You got does he talk about this? Yes, because I've noticed that with with and weed or like alcohol What they do is they create this little buffer between You and the world and the people you're interacting with and you and you don't have to like Make every moment special for every person you talk to you can kind of just Exist in your world with it and I think that famous people crave that because On some level it can be exhausting trying to live up to the standard that all these other people have for you I'll tell you what my therapist told me You just got to feel your feels right. Yeah, and whatever you're feeling in that moment Lean into it. Interesting. Like I don't have to be everything to everybody.  Didn't you feel a pressure before fame when you was in school, right? You know, I'm saying Right, but was it not heightened when you become this celeb like even remember when guy code really popped off And there was an expectation Yeah, we I mean, I think it's it's impossible to not become a character of yourself at some point I think the first go around with fame you become this character At well now, I don't think the first girl. I think the first the first uh hit of it.    So I need to do this more. So then that next level is more Characterature then you realize this shit is exhausting trying to keep I'm faking it.  It's like my man.   I'm saying as a comedian like you don't have to be funny You have to be interesting right in every situation. You actually gotta be no chris. Hold on before you This is good. Absolutely right. This is good. I don't have to be funny But mother fuckers always want to talk to me because I'm always talking. They always want to have conversations They don't want a hot debate. They want a hot date. That's what I mean.  You gotta look at him be like, I'll tell you how he tastes There is there is something that's interesting though because you're saying that when you're a comic There is one expectation for the interaction and that is laughter Right, right and with the guy code shit when it first came around I wasn't prepared for it So I felt like I had to be funny in every moment that I have with these people and then that fame disappeared and I got this it was the best thing that could have happened because I got an experience with it I saw it go away and then I saw how much I valued just not having an expectation in an interaction And now when it came back up through the youtube videos and obviously success of the podcast and everything I don't feel the pressure to satisfy everything because I'm not proving to myself that I'm worth it anymore Back with guy code. It was I I probably didn't feel like I deserved the fame Yes, I probably had imposter my therapist talk. So now it's like if you know me from stand-up clips Most people that see me on the street. They need to spot the stand-up clips.  I'm gonna prove to you. I'm funny. Hey, nice to meet you. That's it Whereas with guy code. It was like we were on tv for 30 seconds a day You don't know if it was funny. You don't know if it wasn't so that That was a real thing for me It was like just getting comfortable in what I am and who I am and there's nothing that does that better than having a fan base of fucks with you instead of A network that fucks with you right because the fan base The network can just pull the rug out whenever they want right The fan base is like now we got you where we going right? We going HBO. We going Netflix We're going who where we going right, you know and I I want to give both of you guys props for this because I've noticed both of you guys in terms of your actual one-on-one interactions instead of just a movement like on the street You guys always have time for people and I know some celebrities who don't right You know what I mean? Like I've seen you guys around enough people. I've never seen either one of you guys like Never no, I would never I would never front some people do a lot of people do a lot of people but but listen Shit might change Everybody's growing in their respective fields.  You know me. I just I just know things are getting a little different I've been in spaces where I have I have seen people have to Whisk me through And I can't I can't stop and talk to everybody. Yes, but I got to get to the stage Uh, right I gotta get out here for this flight because if I do stop it's over.   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Hey everyone, welcome to Echocalypse. So we have here a new banner decrypting incantations construct and timeline. We have wadget and panpan for this banner and I'm gonna give you guys my thoughts on whether this banner is worth pulling or Just skip it all together. Okay, so first and foremost Let's go over wadget and see what she can do wadget is rated as tier B bordering on tier A but Again, her utility is not enough for me. I think to put her to Tier A, but definitely he she has some uses so going to her attack So launch an attack dealing 53% physical damage to back row enemies Take note the back row enemies are the squishy ones that usually a player hides or an opponent hides so definitely she is going to be very good for Your primary attacker for the back line because this is going to be a Basic attack. Okay, take note of that Next is going to be her special so wadget breaks her limits her gods eyes sending a chill down enemy spines Dealing a hundred seventy three physical damage to the back row again So basic and back row is her specialty with an attack with an N times 20% chance to turn Each target with more than three rage into mummy So if they are rage is basically it basically makes a Case fast. So if they have three rage There's a 20% chance that they would be turning to mummies and they would be incapacitated So retains all mummy retains all attributes It's normal normal attack is replaced by dry claws which can deal 10% damage to a single enemy So not really incapacitated. I'm gonna gonna correct myself. So lesser damage Its skill is replaced by sand burial which can deal 20% damage to front row enemies. So again She makes them mummies and their attack is lowered basic attack plus their Their special skill. So that is what she gives and the last skill is going to be wadgets Gaze confuses enemies when watches HP falls down below 30% Percent her noma attacks and skills of it and 10% chance to inflict silence for targets on On targets for one round. So targets meaning all but the chance is low at 30% No, not 30% 10% Okay, so but as you get copies over, of course, this percentage is going to go up But it's not that much. So from 10 only the maximum would be 20 So what do I think again over her? Obviously she has a nice artwork If you if you you know want this waifu for her looks then go for it But my opinion is that she is going to be again Tier B no more. No, you know nothing more than tier B. So moving next to pan pan Of course when you draw on this banner, you have to consider that you might draw a wadget or pan pan So if wadget is tier B, what is pan pan? So starting off with pan pans attacks of pan pan fires an improvised cannon dealing 70% 73% damage to a single row of enemies so to single row and You actually get her for her special skills. So Makes a one-time defense on item based on the situation grants shield of her of Her 12% max HP. So the trick for her is to increase her HP and When a shield is activated crit resistant increases by 10% to herself and to two random allies This is nice. My problem with this is it's just random but again, it's a defensive trait and Actually, I'd take this I would say she would be tier a at this point Not no longer tier s. She was she was very she was very sought after before I think she was nerfed so this becomes two random allies and 12% max HP when a shield is activated. So again hope I was hoping that this would be three It's only two or even four three or four would have been better than two random allies But again, if you like her you actually can't pull for her. She's for me She's going to be tier a and no more than tier a I think she was nerfed before Her you know before I think her skill was was even better So this one this is her passive pan pan develops a defense strategy based on the situation where her Single damage exceeds 30% of her max HP. She grants front row allies block percentage for two rounds When as her single damage is okay So the the block percent percent for two rounds is actually good for frontline But it the condition is when her single damage exceeds 30% of her max HP So you also have to increase her damage for this to take effect So what do I think of them both? Are they going to be good? So let's go back. Okay. First you have to check the link here Will they benefit to you in the long run based on the team that you're building? So they are I Think based on the same link if you can look at this one almost the same So both of them can be used in one team If you're developing the same team as them with the same links more or less Then definitely you should get or you should try this banner out if you're starting out Panpan, I don't think it will be a good starting, you know SSR for you probably a more DPS centered Centered case would be would would do with SSR case, but for them both of them are supports mainly and They will compliment you if again, you are building a team currently showcasing them or if you want to if if that team if If you add these two to that team that team would be good through the link then be my guest I don't know if you understand understood that but again if these two will compliment Your current team through links and through the build then be my guest both are budget against the is tier B panpan is going to be tier A But again, they're their support. They're actually going to be good at that tier especially for panpan a tier A so again guys, those are my thoughts so depends upon you if you're gonna Summon for this banner, but at this point, I'm looking for a specific one that I'm still waiting So I'm saving my summons for that particular case and you guys will definitely know about it Once that case is going to be up for someone. So anyway guys, thank you very much for staying this far Take care. Stay safe. This is the warden and I'm out of here