All right, fantastic. You are still watching hashtag Y in the morning. And in this segment right about now, we are about to talk about an interesting conversation about how to survive.  But before that, ensure that you continue to chat with us or engage with us on our socials. And that's on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter is at Y254Channel. And on Instagram, remember there's an underscore. This segment right about now is MCM. And Kamavilan Liviosema, Hapu Awali, Kisohili Kanapoteki Dogo, but 12 conveniwis, today I'm going to talk about survival tactics as a boy child problem time.  Do you agree by the way? This is debatable, okay? It's debatable. Do you think the girl child are more favored more when it comes to resources, empowerment, and the rest? Even education. There's gas, there's parts for gas, or gas for parts, parts for gas, okay? I've never had, I've never had something for the boy child, but I'll leave that assignment to you back at home. Right about now, joining me in the studio are two powerful gentlemen.  Two powerful gentlemen, like I said. Good morning, guys. Thank you for coming. Good morning. Introduce yourself. My name is Alvis Ochano. I'm a journalist, yeah, not yet. Although I've not graduated, I'm also kind of an artistic person. So far from journalist, I'm a vocalist. I've been in the model. That means you can sing. You can throw some Asher Imon, some Traceong, Chris Vaughn. I can, I can. You'll do that to us then. I've also done fashion. That's runway fashion, and yeah, so basically I would say anything that involves art, it's kind of my strength. So I tend to dwell in such matters, yeah. Malta is killed in short. Thank you. What about you? Okay, I'm Yusuf, I'm an event organizer. Okay. Currently I'm a CEO for the French Man event organization company. Okay. And then I'm a model, and also I'm able to dance. Also a dancer, yeah? Wow. Two Malta talented guys. This one can sing, the other one can dance. The next thing I collaborate with, I do mean to play role, Ghani, but we'll find out to us. We'll find out to us there. But coming back to the topic of the day, survival and hope. When I do a little convention before, Mabuche, anyone has the pressure to fly, you could try to survive to make it successful, or to try and hack a job on time. But, Wakati, all of that is happening, you're trying to find a job, you're trying to find a support system. Sometimes it, there's a lot of obstacles to you, so you have to fight through a lot of obstacles. From your experience as a journalist, do you feel like there's a lot of obstacles to you being called a boy child? And at some point, when you're a shoulder to lean on, but you can't find one? Yeah, I would say yes, because sometimes, I believe everyone faces obstacles, but for a boy child, there's that pressure of, you have to make it. Yeah. I wouldn't try to discriminate the ladies, but for a guy, it's either you make it or you're just going to be a loser. Let me say a loser, because once you don't make it, people will be feeling you're like a joker, I'm saying when you are you go serious in life, so there's always that pressure of making it. I love you, you see the current market, how it is, job opportunities are less, and many people are qualified. That's an issue also. So I believe yes, there are obstacles, which we try to every day to break, but all in all, we have to do what we have to do to make it. Interesting. And Nesapendosano, to delve into your obstacles, I'll come back to you, but from your experiences and events, organizer, do you feel like a bro sometimes odds you're not going to do too much for the boy child? Yeah. Okay. It's true. Because you get a boy in a society, it needs more effort, because you get like me, for example, I was raised in a family that a boy child is for everything, you get. Yeah. You get like a- Do you feel like you're going to be like that? Yeah, like you get like a, in the family that I was raised with, my uncle, my aunties, and my shows. So it equal like a, like when I see my cousins, my name is Koapo, and then you get even, my uncle when he comes in, and if he comes in, my friend, when I'm with my family, I say, Rakan, yeah. You will see. Marame Nikazi. Nikazi. And then actually, when I started a Frenchman events company, I was on 2020. Yeah. When we had the COVID, then I tried to go to the offices, you get, you go to the offices, to the county offices, you say that I'm a student but I need this help. I need a start. Yeah. Did you have like a CV? Yeah, I had them. But you get, the way, you get like a, and then you know, but on the same page, there was a certain girl to come in, and then she was starting a beauty. Cosmetics business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But to the end, at the same time, we were the same class, we had to carry some ideas, and then to a group discussion, then she was like, even me, I have a dream, can we do it? Then we went together at the government office so that we can get the service. You get, me, I'm a student. And then I come watch up on them. But let me tell you the shocking part. After one week, she was given a start support. Yeah. But me, me, I was like, I'm a pig, I'm like, bad-eyed, I'm not bad-eyed, I'm not bad-eyed. So from then on, I gave up, I said, this is all about me. Yeah. I was like, actually, I was like, the band, I had chips. You had chips. Yeah. So you grew? Yeah, I grew, I grew, and then I started the start, the capital, to start an organization. Yeah. You get ahead to pay for the license first. And then number two, you have to to get the document from the the community, the county government, yeah, everything.  Okay. You give me the event, I do the event. At the end, you're going to disappear. You're not going to disappear. Yeah.  You're not going to be certified. So I had to go first in that government. But do you think you're going to support at first, you're also going to support come or will you try to raise it for you to start your business? Yeah. I believe that.  Yeah. I'm going to be doing totally, totally. So let me come back to you, Alvis, about the obstacles. Even generally for you, you're in the in the media industry. Could I come back? I'm going to mention I'm going to be doing a lot of bad things. And then I'm going to be doing the next step. And I'm going to be busy. For you, what are some of the challenges that you're going to face? Before you hacked any media gig or even your first, first, first media experience, what are some of the challenges that you're going to repeat here? Um, first of all, corn, I would call them corn men. Corn men. People who you are like linked to. I love to tell you like, ah, I love that they're going to sort you out. That was first of the obstacle. And remember back then, I was looking for an attachment. A mere attachment is not something I'm being paid. Actually, it's just getting the training for you to be qualified now as a journalist. And from that point, meeting corn people who tell you like you have to give something to get something that I don't want to leave. You know? But I was like, let me just do it because you know, I think nowadays, I didn't mean to talk to you, but I would say most of the employers nowadays feed on the desperation of many youths because they understand everyone has the pressure of wanting to make it in life. And we can all admit there's pressure in social media of everyone trying to make it in life, you know? So, I think there's just desperation. If I just want to do anything to be able to make money. I make do, man, say. I love for a guy, for me, I would say, the same issue. The support system are equal, you know? I would say that because when you look at our society, most of these programs that usually come up to empower the youth, most of them are to empower the girls, you know? At the end of the day, we reach a point where we're trying to get to a point where everyone is equal. But you see more of the programs that champion for the ladies are more than the ones that support the women. Yeah. So, if you try to reach a point of everyone is equal and the boy child is not uplifted or maybe a program to encourage them, I think you're being left behind and sometimes with those programs come opportunities for the ladies and where the boys left at. So, I believe those are some the support system and also when I say maapa, sometimes you go to places and I usually pity how the society has become nowadays because for lady I can end up or yes, you'll be given a job not because that you're a lady but maybe someone might want something in return and that it's so... More for the beauty. Yeah, for the beauty especially. I would say, I usually thought that nowadays at least I believe your work will sell you but there's a point that you know Kiendanga it's how you look actually. If you're not appealing, just forget about that opportunity. Do you feel like this is general living for the media and other careers as well? It depends especially with art. With art. It's going to act in everything to do it act in appearing on screen, you know? Kind of... Do you see a lot of people in your appearance? So, in short, your appearance is your selling point? I wouldn't say that. For me, my skill is my... Your skill is your selling point. My selling point but what happens is that sometimes getting opportunity to actually show people your potential is when the... She doesn't give you the opportunity. You know? Nowadays you're being judged to be appealing from the start to judge. So you're not giving that to prove yourself. And I believe if people gave people chances to prove themselves, I believe that you will be getting opportunities. Yeah. Maybe I add on the same point. The last point that you said that squeezy, it's all about... It's all about the way you get chances in your own part. But the best thing is it's all about you. It's all about you. Never. Actually, people may disappoint you. People may disappoint you. But if you are disappointed, what was speaking of disappointment? What was your worst disappointment? My worst disappointment from the family. It's pain from the family. From the member of the family. You get like a... When you're starting... What happened? Okay, you get like a... When I was starting, trying to talk about the dream I have to my family members. You get like a... Others are like... Are you sure? Do you... Like, at least the first people to discourage you and go off family. Yeah. People don't know. Maybe what I'm trying to say is bad about you. But the same blood from your family. Blood related. Do you agree that you'll get as a part of support more from strangers than what we are working on? Totally. Yeah. Totally. True. That's true. Okay. Now, I want to thank you for this courage, especially the boy who allowed the Z-Conversation in MCM. I'm a fall into depression. I'm a jerebu, I'm a fika-mushu. I'm a hope. Now, Elvis, you mentioned, I would like most support organizations in Zikoni empower the gacha, really do hear something for the boy child. What is the future solution now? For a boy child, we can try, we can try.  Amako and Deivo will be tender. What do you think is the future solution to this menace? Maybe to start from the point of, that was another, you already mentioned another obstacle, that's depression. People nowadays are taking depression as very likely. And we end up having cases that we end up saying, oh, I wish I knew. I wish I did this. You know what I mean? So I think also with pressure comes the desire to be the best to perform. And when that is not happening, you can result into depression. And this kind of messes yourself because during that time, when you're doing you're under repression, you could be productive in another field.  So moving forward, I think we should have a support system that understands there's things like depression and these are the things that affect people, you know, especially from the what we consume socially. Mental health. Yeah, mental health is really important. There's somebody who's telling me that hygiene is not just what you eat and what you ingest in your body. It's also what you watch and read. So mental health hygiene includes even social media, what you consume. And plus, you've mentioned some of the energy that you can impress social media, especially for the butcher. You can post it on your website. You can post it on your website plus you can... To city. Because society expects you to never show weaknesses. Do you think it's a weapon in a killdreams that you're going to be able to do? You're going to be able to do it. I'm not saying... I'm not saying it's a bad idea, but you're going to be able to do it. It's not going to cost your life. I think it's actually killing also people, especially like because in a drawer, at the end of the day, where you're able to post it, to me, I believe to me, it's a chance. Only when you post about good things, as many people reach it. Oh! I'm not saying it's a bad idea. But because usually believe, no one wants to look bad on social media, to be honest. Because everyone craves so that people will be like, oh! I'm fit, I see you're moving forward. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, everything we post enough to be something positive that we miss out on, actually, when you're going through through a lot of our problems. So what I would tell young people outside there, especially the boy child, first of all, one thing I've always learned and it has been a hard, hard thing for me to learn because I always believe about impressing people. But once I realize that at the end of the day, even sometimes when I'm going to hold on to your career, hold on to your dreams. But let me tell you, once you have that dream and you look back at who you are as a person and you remember, for you to get to that dream, you've lost a lot of yourself. Because I usually believe hold on to yourself. Because once, hold on to yourself because when you reach a point where you have not achieved your dreams, maybe the goals you had set in life, you have not achieved, you'll still have yourself and you can still rebuild yourself. But when you hold on to your dreams, no, me too is of it was in Meisha and you didn't have a chance to hold on to yourself. Now, where do you want to go back? Already, you're so crushed and building back from scratch will be a big issue to yourself. So what I would tell people is hold on to yourself and I believe in failing because a winner is someone who failed. Please explain. I believe in failing because when you fail, it doesn't mean that you actually, that's the end of the world. And I believe a winner is someone who failed and decided to do it again so that they can be a winner again. So I believe we fear failing and I also do, but I would tell everyone that sometimes Kuanguka in Manisha to me is just a lesson. Maybe there's a step to miss. There's something you didn't do correctly, but you should give yourself a chance and that's holding on to yourself. Because at some point in our life, let's say you've tried to impress Killam to social media and in that pressure also. You know, when you try to impress people, you lose some blocks of how you define yourself as a person.  Terror be gone on. And when you reach there, you don't even know who you are no more. So I believe once we start stopping impressing other people and we decide just to love ourselves and we have to work with that. We have to work with that. And we cannot change that. But depending on how much it's possible, because at the end of the day, even if you make it, wanting money is all about we want that happiness. And some people, yes, money can bring happiness but when you have happiness with the literal that you have as a person, it's greater than having all this wealth but they are not giving you the happiness that you desire. And speaking of Komoka, you mentioned that. I remember the question of the day is, if you come again, you touch upon your Komoka. Do you mention Komoka? It's like the main highlight, your maisha, even for the boy child, are coming. Okay, before I go to the part of Komoka, let me start with the same question that you asked them. Okay, true. Okay, for me, I can take example of me. You get when I was joining the university, they were like, you get, my friends are like, Buddha, who could you form? I don't know, they take tea, don't take the bank key and whatever. You okay with that? Yeah, you get one of my Nagansh. You get one of my Nagansh, you are. Like, it was so hard for me. And how did you survive? But the best thing, I was always thinking it's number one, know who you are. I like to mention. Know who you are. Number two, where do you come from? Exactly. Know who you are. Number three, what do you want to get? Who do you want to get? So know who you are, know where you come from, what do you want to get? But my question to you before you proceed is, how do you know who you are? We preach a lot, I am who I am, but who are you? Who are you? On the same point, if you want to know who you are, actually when I try to find out who I am, first thing you do, sit down, set your mind. Sit down and set your mind. Try to look since you were born. The way, the process, the process, where you are. And number two. I have a question for you. Number three, what are your weaknesses? What are your weaknesses? And what are your strengths? If you get to know your weaknesses and your strengths, you will know yourself who you are. True. I remember something. The issue of self-esteem. I had a friend of mine who had OCD. And I think who once talked about it in another previous show that you've heard here. I don't know what he was talking about. He talked about the point. I was interacting with certain people. He was talking about the space. One of the things I felt so irritable to a point. He said he was attacking others. So, it's a self-esteem issue. And I think he was talking about self-esteem issues. Maybe he was saying, I will grow up with emotionally abused, I will take advantage of him, and I will be able to help him. And of course, I think he was very strong till the end. He was very good. He was very good. So, I think he was talking about hope in life. He was saying, I will battle him. I will heal him. And I will give him an example. Okay. For me, what I can say, I think he is the number one. He accepts you. He accepts you. So, he will attack you. He will be the first step. He will accept you and you will know. He is the witness of what I am saying. The next step. So, that is a witness I am identifying.  Yes, that's a witness. I'm sure I get it. So, from there, you look at the surrounding. The people you are living with. Okay, my brother, my sister, my father, my mom. How do they conduct themselves? One of them is me. And then when they come to school, they say, they are good at it. How do they do it? The story of bullying, the pain that came through. Yes. So, I can say, I can say, I know that you are good. And then, I know that you are good.   You know, you are good, bro.   Because I really know what I am doing. I know what I am doing is a witness. Okay. Also something, the people you surround yourself, how are they? You must have a family, but also friends. Surround yourself with people who understand you as a person.  I need to be good. I am not to pretend. I think you are good. Come on, when they bash. Yeah. I am talking about the truth. I think most of them, they are good. Be with people who like you can be totally yourself. People who are identified with that. I said we have to, you know, they usually say we have to compromise about this and this. But sometimes, you know, especially with your friends, these are people, maybe, it will be a long time. They are shaping your career. It will be a long-term thing. Maybe to educate you will still be friends. So, I need to be with people who I feel I can be myself.  Because, you know, the ones who are people who are understanding, it will start with who I am now. I would require that an issue. And you know, when you get comfortable with your friends, they will make you comfortable with the world now. Not okay in the cookie. And now, Mali, you know how to interact with people because you are interacting already with your friends who understand you. And you know, also one thing that people really tend to hide, there's a lot of information from all these social media because I believe there is a way to overcome some certain OCD. So, I mean, also- For example, addiction. Yeah, addiction. You know, if you get educated. There's a lot of things that I'll, especially, I don't know if it's telegram, but I would, I would say, I could be addicted to using a certain app. I'm maybe an interact now to fly me when I'm in the lead contact with my friends. And I feel high as your children as well.  I mean, how can someone go about with that? Because I believe even for the boy child, it's ten times harder. It is, it is, it is. What do you think in a solution comes when you are addicted? I think it depends on what level they are in. If like it's someone I still under like a supervision from their parents, they should control the consumption of social media and whatever they should have, like or monitor what they're doing. You know, but for someone like me, I believe I've always... What do you do to take those breaks on social media? Find something I love. And whenever I feel like I'm tempted to maybe... Click on that video, I'm gonna click on that app. Let me channel that energy that I'll give that, maybe that video, whatever, to what I love doing. Because now when I leave that alone and I focus on what I love, I improve, it's like a practice for me. So I believe it's all about transferring the energy that you need to use on something that is kind of messing you up into something that will build you up. And you know, it's hard sometimes, but start slowly. Start slowly. Give yourself a challenge.  So even with addictions, you know. Easy to reach at that place. With addictions. At the same time, you don't have to wait two hours. I don't want to get the limits focused on you. You start small. Because if we usually, even though with job market, with making it, you don't have to figure at the top without going through the process. So I believe. And at the same time, 30 minutes. If you're keeping it in your life, there's that thing of rewarding yourself for every achievement that you make. Even that small thing. Because the small thing matters a lot.  That's the way you can reward yourself. You know what you love doing. And you can do it. If you're poly-poly, as you progress, you'll find yourself that you need to control the desire of you wanting to be with it. Amazio, Victor, you're quite attached to you. But remember, you need attachment. Attachment is also another kind of addiction. Attachment to your lover. Attachment to your friends. Attachment to family. When that disconnection happened, in Afanyanga, I was mentally disturbed. What about you, bro? Okay. Before we go to that, actually, you said the point that... You said the point that about the social media, posting yourself and getting... You get, as my example, I have a brother. You get like my brother. Blood brother? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get my brother. The text he has is from Asia. He's like, Buddha! Like, he's at home with me. At home with me. You get. At home with me. Like, there's some pressure. There's some pressure. But if you want to see from that, number one, you get like... You can spend one hour on the social media. You get. You can now start with, as he said, you start with 10 minutes doing something, even sacring, even swimming. Doing something different. You get.  And then the following day, yeah, you get like two minutes of swimming. It counts at the end. In the next time, you get addicted to online swimming pool.  At the end of the time, you can go to the school team. You get. That's how you change. It's all about a step. You say, I'm addicted to swimming, but I'm not addicted to swimming. No. It can't be. A boutrangle attachment, relationship-wise, anyways, I think relationships are the most important. I say, I'm addicted, I fall into depression. But I'm addicted to swimming. I have a common obsession. Then I can disappoint. And then I can, I can, I can try self-medication. I can't do that. I'm addicted to swimming. I'm addicted to swimming. I'm addicted to swimming. I can't do that. I'm stuck, I'm rooted. I'm a drug. I'm, I'm, do you feel like Maumbine as a side, do you think you can change? Yeah. Prayers can. Yeah. From your experience, Elvis, before I come back to you. That's okay. My experience. Do you think prayers can change? Yeah, I can't. Prayers, prayers is a very powerful thing. And people sometimes, I don't know. I don't know what happened. But I know most of us don't have the time to do anything.  Sometimes you tell yourself, God, make it by day and I tell you. Please, this idea too. You know, in the midst of, you might not speak it out, but come away.  So, maybe if prayers, prayers is very crucial. So, because that's the only person you... Are you going to a pastor? Are you going to a prophet? No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. I'm going to a pastor. He's a pastor. Nowadays, you're facing it. And then magic will happen. Religion has to it. Me, I don't want to talk about it. But me, just believe, with prayers and all that, it depends on the relationship with God. With God, yeah. How do you connect with God, you know?  How do you relate with Him? How do you connect with Him? How do you feel best?  So, maybe leave prayers work and... And go to church, right? To candle church. If you feel like you're depressed, you can go to church with the hope that you will benefit. Yeah, but when you said, also you asked about, remember an attachment relationship. I believe people are getting into relationships for the wrong reasons. For the wrong reasons. That's one thing. Reason number one. Just one last. Then I jump to... Last. Last is really pushing people. Last. Like, yeah. That's one thing people in a push towards. You know, I usually tell people before going to a relationship, first heal. I don't know. Yes, when it doesn't matter. Oh, it doesn't matter if it's good or not. But if you haven't healed, don't take the baggage to the next person. Because, Najwa, you don't also know what they're coming with. But you know the issue is, how is this healing? Now, let me jump to you. I'll come to you about healing. Attachment. Okay, attachment, it affects most of the youths. It affects. For sure, because I have an example. Okay. I had a friend at the school. Then he got in love with Reddy from the university. With the girl. Yeah. Shuri for the babes. And now I'm saying, you let him say, like I'm that ego. Ah, me, me, Demo is in it all, bro. Me, me.   You get, like, this guy, I'll kick you, that energy, that side, that. Ego, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, all of a sudden, this girl, I come to her sponsor. You get. I come to her. Yeah, I come to her. And this guy, I'll find a very bad decision because I've been to at Montclair University, the tallest building then, it's done, bro. And that was the end of the story. The end of the story. It was so painful, because one of them said, I'm not sure what he said. I'm not sure what he said. I said, actually, it was a fourth year. A fourth year? Yeah. It was four. Yeah, I think boys take it hard with heart. Okay, for me, what I will advise my family is. Your fellow boys, yeah, yeah. My boys, yeah. Number one, number one, before you get into a relationship, get to know who you are dating. Get to know who you are dating. Yeah, first. Okay, sir, sir. Now with this person. Relationship tips are normal. Yeah. Get to know who you are dating. Yeah. To get to know who you are dating is, when you stay with this person, maybe be friends. Be friends first. Firsts. Manapata is a tip. Yeah, be friends first. I became it. Yeah. Like, yeah, yeah. Like, why do I say that? You get like, who is the best in the world who is the best in the world? Because who is your friend, who is free, who is even her secret. You get. Two. The time when you are in a secret relationship, you will find that you are her friend. That's what I'm looking for. But you are taking advantage. Don't you think you are taking advantage? No, no. No. Okay. You get see advantage. Because who is the best in the world? Like you get, who is the best in the world? You are the best in the world. Franny. Who is the best in the world? Who is the best in the world? Who is the best in the world? Materialistic. You get. But what if you say, the reason why you are taking advantage is to study. Do you want to study? No, you can't. Okay. If she is a good person, if she is a good person, she is also studying you. She is also studying you, right? Yeah. Hey, but see, she is a man, yeah. It's man society. Yeah. I would say, one thing before. Before, remember you have to speak on healing. Oh, healing. Answer that first. I would say on that point is that, I think we are taking care of relationships. Try to love people with their love language, not yours. And that's why we make a mistake. Try to be along. Yeah. If you want to be in love language, it's not easy. Don't try to impose it on you. I don't want to be in love with you. When it comes to love, love is all about compromise, you know what I mean. Yes, you cannot get everything 100%. At least compromise. When you learn to love people in their love language and they do the same, I think apoku coexist together and also grow in each and every day will be very easy. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. I love to see the relationship with someone else. I don't know if it's someone I know, but I usually believe, you know, many people, and many people, many people have an elementality. Oh, I think about this. Because we're always thinking about what will happen next. But what I usually, I've learned to tell myself, live in the moment. Live in the moment. When I say what I do, it doesn't matter. Because when I start thinking of this, I'll start planning and I'll see the future. That might lead to a breakup. So it's all about living in the moment. When I say, let's love each other each second, minute, if I can tell you. Because when you're not certain about the future, apoku, they will not be a lot of disappointment. At last, I grow in each and every day. I love each and every day. But today, I choose to love you like this. So let's not plan at the, by five years, not a lot of fun. Because sometimes when I have a relationship, I don't want to go to Mahisha. Now, I have a relationship with someone else. After two weeks. So that's on that date. After two weeks. As well as that, I don't want to go to Mahisha. I want to open a business. I don't want to go. I don't want to exchange assets and I don't want to go to your house. Speaking of that, before you speak of healing, we had a conversation and somebody mentioned for how long should you date someone? And I said, you can date for two weeks and one day you'll be married. I said, three months is enough. I said, for ten years, I was engaged. But at that time, for ten good years, and finally, I met Mahisha. Hey, I'm young. I want to date someone. How long? How long do you think you can date someone? I want to date someone. I want to get the answers right. Let me just be real. Yeah. For how long do you think it should go? First of all, I don't want to say that I think it should go. My total opinion about that knee, if you want to date, date, to marry. Because I don't think I have four sisters. I'm the only boy.  I'm not even shooting them. It kind of defines who I am as a person. I wouldn't want to mess with someone else's daughter for a period of time knowing clearly that you're not married. This is not the woman I want to live with. I think when dating, date to marry. Okay, date to marry. Date to marry. Let's shift away from relationship to read it back to the topic. Healing. Healing. Don't carry over the heart and the damage to the next person. First of all. To point at the devastation and lose hope. I mean, first step of healing is, yes, as soon as you say yes, maybe it's an incident that happened in Lifanyam breakup. It's totally on the other person. But I think in one way or two, we also played a part in that. One thing people really want to do is that they also are at fault at some point. Once you realize the mistakes you did in your previous relationship, now think of what you intend to do in the next one. Think of things that maybe Lifanya, you approach them. Some things that you're looking for from the other person and maybe the thing that you forgot to do was communicate. No, no. With healing comes with accepting, yes, in Asia. No, no. Because once you make kubali, too, in Asia, don't force issues. Because don't force. You see, when you drink, collect, work and you don't know what to do. So don't force issues, kubali. First of all, okay, once you accept in Asia, then that's one step to healing. Because sometimes you hold on to this. And you know with that, you cannot move forward.  Because when you understand society, you become emotional. You become emotional. Emotional damage. That's how the system is so shifting. That's not the man we want for the society. That's toxic masculinity. Toxic masculinity. And people nowadays make fun of it. Like, look at the meme, sometimes they come, when you mean in one arm, okay? And you see something, when you mean in one arm, okay? And now we have made it a norm. Stereotype, yeah. Stereotype of how men should be. And this is the mistake.  But also, women are like, from how I've viewed things sometimes, men should be allowed to be vulnerable with themselves. And you'll find some women telling you that, they usually appreciate a man who can be the head, but are sometimes kubali. Yes, you cannot be vulnerable to anything. But women, when you say men who, like, at some point, they all want to admit, they want to be a woman, and they decided to share it, it was actually very special to that lady. Of many ladies that I've met, they've told me that. So I believe, the way to make a structure society, I don't want to be affected by it, I don't want to be affected by it. I mean, we hold on to a, men hold on to a lot of things just because they cannot express themselves. And you know, we hold on to everything. It's the first time, bro, because you're running out of time. Also, when you hold on to a lot of things, in a pile up. And now you get, when you let it out, you let it out to the wrong people. Amuna, it burst. It burst, it was very ugly. Your final sentiments, bro, two seconds. Apparently, you've run out of time. Okay, also on the same point of feeling, as you said, first thing, it's to accept the mistake. Accept the, where it went wrong, you just accept it. Okay. It's so painful. And I don't want to say that I'm not like that. I don't have a story that tells me that I'm a normal person. I will take a, I will get a room for you to live for 30 minutes. Really? Yeah. So you advocate for men to cry, right? Yeah. Release. It helps to release that thing. Because if you keep it, it will, like will I say, it will come out to the wrong person. And my director is telling me, we are out of time and I believe we will continue this conversation, part two of it. I will carry it over to Monday next week. So I know you guys, you'll be around. Yeah. So we'll carry it over from Monday next week. But away from that, we had asked you a question on our socials. To record, we said, we will come again, you touch, you find your key, or more. Mm-hmm. We will come again, and we will figure it out. As I read some, two, three comments, are a caraca. Eric Monique, we will say, it's so painful, it's so painful. Okay.  Eliza Gishiro, we will say, good morning, from Kirinyaga, outamoya massive, why in the morning, thank you. Alice Christina, we will say, good morning, our 2 O'gina, watching from Kariara, ithanga in Muruga County. Aha. Racha Jose, we will say, good morning. Haha. Stacey Diana, we will say, morning, morning too, miss you. We will Initeada, we meet. Okay. Aha. The last one, Musé, Mariah, Camaralala, we will say, We will send out our primes and our hats. Haha. So, you like it. I love, a cup. So it's the question, right there. But thank you so much you guys for coming. 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Hi everyone, Joe for jaspyscasebreaks.com coming at you in 2020, Panini Legacy Football 6-Box Half Case Random Team Break Number 6. Big thanks to all of these folks for getting into the action. Really appreciate it. And there are all the teams in right there. Let's roll it. Let's randomize it. Four and a five, nine times for each list. Seven, eight, and a ninth and final time. After nine times, Phil down to Anthony. Five and a four, nine times for the teams. Yes, J-Dog, we break personals on Instagram seven nights a week. Except for tomorrow, 4th of July. We're off. After nine times, we've got Pittsburgh down to Texans. I'm sorry Curtis, fire. All right, Phil with the Steelers, Sean with the Chiefs, James with the Bills, Trevor with the Broncos, Big Boys Delo 7 Cardinals, Karen Cowboys Patriots, Michael with the Buccaneers, Trevor with the Browns, Adam with the Vikings, Colton with the Lions, Jeremy with the Jags, Scott with the Saints, Jason with the Giants, Chris with the Eagles, Trevor with the Ravens, Justin with the Colts, Adam with the Seahawks and Bengals, Marty with the Charters, Mark with the Dolphins, Colton with the Falcons, Mike with the Rams, Sean with the Raiders, Justin with the Redskins, Mike with the Jets, Ron with the Titans, Adam with the Niners, Ron with the Bears, Jake with the Panthers, Dylan with the Packers and Anthony with the Texans. All right, so let's sort by column B. And we're going to pause the video, allow for some trading time, and I've got to go grab the boxes when we come back. We'll see if there's any trades, and then the break. All right, welcome back, folks. Found the boxes. And there were no trades, so let's roll. Thanks, everyone, for getting into the action. Appreciate it. And remember, I marked all of these six, so you know that these are for random team six. I'd leave you a, there's a checklist. If you're just joining us, there is a checklist somewhere in the chat. I'll be going by that to figure out where, I haven't memorized where all of these rookies go yet, so. You can see on the top camera all the boxes on cam. And there's also a link to the schedule in the chat as well. We are pretty much booked for the night. If that, has that spectra sold out yet? No, there's three left in that spectra number block.  So let's fill that up. If that doesn't fill by the time I'm done with, I think select baseball, then we're going to, we're going to call it. I'm sure it'll sell out by then. Everything else will be breaking on a sanity. So just check that out. And we're off tomorrow. The live streams, both live streams, the personal breaks on Instagram. And this channel that you're watching right here, we are off for 4th of July tomorrow. So all other breaks will go sanity. Yeah, I will be, and then I get tomorrow off 4th of July, the rare three day weekends.  So Jason will be taking care of you guys on sanity and Monday. As usual. All right, we got a mini Joe Namath here, legends. That'll be for Mike Cody and the Jets. We got Carson Wentz to 100.  And we have three color Jersey and autograph chase clay pool. Chase, where do you go, Chase? Steelers maybe? That's Chase Young. Steelers, nice. And that will go to Phil with the Steelers. There you go. Daniel Jones to 75. That'll be for the Giants, Jason B. Little Rivers. If I miss any of these, don't worry, our sorting and shipping team are good about catching some of those 999s or whatever. I'll try to catch as much as I can. There's Cole Comet to 25. We got the Michael P. Ryan to 50. And Xavier McKinney. I got to learn all these. It's still preseason. Still preseason. Giants. There you go. New York football Giants. That will be for Jason B. Brandon Richards, what's up? What happened with the promo? Anything yet? What promo? There's fan favorites. Mahomes to 100. Christian McCaffrey to 50. Extra box for this. Next box. I'm going to have a 4th of July promo, Brandon Rich. Are you thinking about the 4th of July, the JASPY repack product? Maybe that's what you're thinking about? But yeah, if that's what you're thinking about, yeah, we did that earlier. That video is a two and a half hour video. I think that should be uploaded by now. I hope. I think so, yeah. And if you're looking for that video, or if you were in that break, if you're looking for your names, I did include the link to the spreadsheet in the video description. So you can click that and it'll open up the list and what pack you were animized. And then you'll be able to and you'll be able to see, and since it's in order, you can kind of fast forward to around where you would be. Oh yeah, that's what you're thinking of. Yeah, that wasn't a promo. That was an actual break with mystery boxes inside there as a possible redemption. So yeah, that happened earlier today. It was a really cool break. All right, and there's and there's goes to the Denver Broncos. And of course there are big hits, Brandon Richards. Curated by Jaspies. It was very much a boomer bus break. Here's Trevor with the Denver Broncos, but we made sure there were monsters in there. Curated by us, a special repack product just for you. Cam Aversa 150. All right, there's Len Dawson for the Chiefs. Mini. Yeah, and the monsters were monsters. Yeah, definitely a huge boom and bust. There's Isaiah Simmons. Is this an Isaiah that went now I don't know anymore.  AZ with that one. And there is Howie Long to 50. Lasting legacies to 10. It's a pretty low number for Patrick Mahomes. That's Sean Maddock with the Chiefs. Yeah, the Kobe mixer box was pretty strong. This untuck it commercial. Everyone's probably seen these untuck it commercials, right? I mean, it looks like a fine t-shirt. But it's like this commercial so serious. Did you guys hear the commercial in the background? He was just like, he was just like, I just couldn't find a good shirt that looked good untucked. Some were too short. Others were too long. So finding a shirt so designing a shirt that would be perfect untucked became my passion. I was like, really? Specifically a shirt that looked listen, fashion designing, fine. But specifically that one thing. It's so serious too. The commercials way too serious. I've got roped into this chopped marathon too. These are grill masters. They're outdoors. They're grilling. Fourth of July weekend makes sense. A cowboy banana split with mango salsa. That's pretty good. We'll collect those at the end. There's more than one will randomize as one lot to someone at the end of the break.  There is a 15 out of 25 Carson Wentz. It's a little on the thicker side. At first I thought it was a dare to tear card, but Eagle's Chris Parent. There's Leonard Fournette for the Jags. Bill's going to design a t-shirt. Bill's going to design a white t-shirt that doesn't matter to you. I haven't seen that move in ages. There's Derek Henry to 150. Yeah, what was Kanye's shirts? They were like shirts he designed for APC or something like that. And they were like $300 a shirt. It was just a plain white t-shirt. I was like how am I supposed to show off to my friend that this is a Kanye t-shirt? Doesn't say anything on it. There's Justin Herbert to 100. I guess I would have self satisfaction knowing that I was wearing a zillion dollar t-shirt that looked like a standard Haynes t-shirt. What is... Ooh! Dual autograph. Chase Young and Jeff Okuta. So that is a randomizer between the Washington football club. Redskins is canceled now. And the Lions. Jeff Okuta. Washington or Detroit. Yeah, Cran. Kanye did partner up with Gap for a... Yeah, he did partner up with Gap. I guess it's the same with when Philip Lim and Missoni did their target diffusion lines. So I guess Kanye is doing one with Gap. And so maybe they're thinking I don't know for the aspirational fashionista can get Kanye stuff as the Gap. In hopes that one day they can grow to make money and spend money on actual Kanye branded stuff. I suppose. An entry level. For the entry level. Person. Interesting fashion. But still Gap. Yeah, it's supposed to be cheap. It's supposed to be like more of an entry level fashion price point. Allegedly. From what little I've read. I've maybe read a headline and a paragraph of the story. So I don't know the deets but it's usually why it was a big fashion designer's routine. Alright, next box. I guess Kanye is still going on about how he wants people to be lining up around the block. I guess I suppose that could still happen. You know, at the gap in Times Square or something. Might get enough people out there. Colin Jones. Imagine that seeing a line around the Gap. I think that's what the Gap execs were thinking too. It was Isaiah Simmons and we got Brandon Ayak. I think is a niner.  San Francisco with that one. J-Doc had an Ohio State duel from the box he got but not as nice as that one over there. Brandon, yeah, we'll probably do we did some boom and bust hit packs a few weeks ago as well. So yeah, the the repack thing we'll be doing some I don't know when I don't know when the next time we're going to do something at a 200 pack scale. That was kind of a special thing. So I don't know when we're going to do something that big but every once in a while we'll we'll do something on a smaller scale. 50, 60, 70 packs or something like that. There's Ranny Moss under the lights cracked ice to 10. That's pretty cool. That is Patriots edition of Ranny Moss. That will be for Karen. Karen get randomized for Patriots? She did, yeah. Here we go, Karen. Our Stephon Gilmore for Karen. Two boxes to go. All right, good luck. I think those baskets on the show chopped. I think you can buy those. They got some nice baskets on there. Sardines, corn on the cob and XTabantum wine and some Sloppy Joe fillings. We've got Devin Duvernay from Texas. Devin is a raven not numbered. There you go. That will be for Trevor. The purple birds. Dalvin Cook to $199. Tyler Johnson, $16,925. Luke Heakley to $299. And we've got Futures, Jersey autograph. A.J. Dillon, $95 out of $399. A.J. Dillon, Green Bay Packers. Dillon Moore with Green Bay. Dillon with Dillon out of $100. Michael Vick calling Johnson to $150. And the last box ladies and gents, good luck. Good luck everybody. $299. And we've got K.J. Hill with Green Bay color patch and autograph. K.J. Hill is a charger. $19 out of $399. That will be for Marty and the Bolts. There's Haskins to $150. I think those dare to tear cards are only one per master case or one per inner case. But I feel like they're not necessarily, I think I feel like someone in the chat said they're not necessarily guaranteed though. There's Zach Moss but the way they're short printed they generally seem to fall one per case. But I don't think that means you're guaranteed one though. There's Van Jefferson autograph. And Van Jefferson is a ram. So a couple of LA teams back to back. That's Mike Costello with the Rammelie and that Joe Burrow, Joey B $150. And the Drew Lock to $199. The last little bit here before kind of a big randomizer here at the end. That's the 25 fan favorites. EA, what's going on? How are you? Can we Garoppolo? There you go. There's a dual autograph right here. Chase Young Jeff Okuda Washington or Detroit and then everyone has a shot at those those little tiny points there. Alright, so let's go new dice roll. First one will be for the points. Let's grab everybody's names from Dave down to Justin. And we've got let's roll it and randomize each list two out of three, five times. One, two, three four and five. After five times points, a little consolation prize for Marty. 150 points going your way Marty. There you go. Two out of three, five times. Team on top gets it. One two three four and fifth and final time. Flips to Detroit, goes to the Lions Colton Carver gets the one out of 25, dual autograph Chase Young and Jeff Okuda, former teammates. There you go, nice. There you go. There you have it ladies and gentlemen. That's the break. That was Random Team 6 2020 Panini Legacy Football. Thanks for watching. Thanks for breaking with us. And we'll see you next time on jaspyscasebrakes.com. Bye bye.


The Agtec demonstration that we have here at Lockston is mostly centred on two particular patches of planting just to make the best use of what we've got here in terms of crop types to demonstrate the Agtec that's being demonstrated here at Lockston Research Centre. So this is a patch of citrus and then there's a patch of vines that we'll walk to across the other side here in a minute and basically the companies demonstrating their tech are able to either put hardware or if they're doing non-hardware type activities, focus their activities on these two blocks so they can demonstrate the tech in either citrus or vines or both. We do have some equipment also at the Armin Centre of Excellence which is about 5Ks north of here towards Berry. A couple of the companies have some of their tech there as well or are taking imagery from that property as well. So we can kind of cover citrus vines, almonds. That's the main crops we have on the Research Centre. We have small bits of other things and we grow some industrial hemp but that's not here for very long. But some companies have expressed a bit of interest in that as well so we might see where we go with that. So I guess there's a few steps to what's happening here and I'll try and put this into some sort of logical context. One of the first things that we've had to do here because this centre has been here for a long time but it hasn't had a lot of money spent on it in a little while. So we have upgraded the irrigation control system and over here we've got the towelgill tower, one of a number of nodes where we are connecting back to the main controller and we can automatically control the irrigation which we had a system here many years ago which fell into disrepair and hadn't been being used and everything was being turned on and off manually. So Peter's pretty happy to have this up and running and he can actually do things automatically now though we're still having issues that are related to our irrigation system, not the control system. So things that blow out when it's turned on and suddenly we've got to shut everything down and start again. So a few issues there that we're still working through but that's pretty key to some of the tech that we're demonstrating to be able to turn things on and off automatically rather than having people running around doing that. Then we have a range of different tech being demonstrated and some of that is hardware and I guess I wanted to talk about that in terms of point source and then wider area remote sensing type tech and then other tech that's about doing other things. So what we have here and most of the stuff that you'll see here is also in the viticulture block but what we have here is a range of different soil water monitoring technologies and they are obviously point source. So we're just measuring in this row under these trees and we've got, so there's a crop X which is a capacitance probe is the blue mushroom arrangement there. Next to that is GB lights on the green brain system and the tevatronic tensiometers are the little green boxes there. So they are electronic tensiometers, there's two of them at different depths. The green brain I can't remember how many depths, I think it's four, three, Dominic's given me the word. So we've got three different types of soil water monitoring point source devices here. Sentech, so all of these are also in the vine block and Sentech is in the vine block as well. So we've got all of those side by side so people can come, they can pull up the data, have a look at it side by side and see what the data looks like from the same block quite close together with the different technologies. So to help people to be able to compare and understand, see how they find that data to look at and whether it makes sense to them, which one they think might be more useful to them. And we've got tensiometers and GB lights which are soil water tension. We've got the crop X, we've got Sentech which are soil water content. There are two different things that are related, I could give you a whole story about that. I won't, but if anyone's interested. But that gives people pretty much the full range of different types of soil water data that you're likely to come across. And so they can look at that, I can talk them through that if they want to come and have a tour and talk about the differences, the pros and cons, advantages of doing it one way or the other. We also have here the arable mark 2 which D3 AG are the Australian agents for. That is a combination of a mini weather station. So it's measuring temperature, humidity, it does rainfall. It also has a multi-spectral sensor which is looking down into this tree on the right. It's just giving you one reading but it's giving NDVI and chlorophyll index. Now in a citrus tree that's not changing much. It probably is more useful I guess in an annual crop where you're planting, you're starting off with very low vegetation in the sensing area and as your crop develops that increases and then saturates as it covers the ground. Here it's just really sitting there to demonstrate the technology because we don't have a lot of annual crop here. We might pop it into the hemp ladder and see what it does. So that's another point source measurement but it's measuring a number of things right here in this block. So that's one level of tech and all of these, all of these the data is going up to the cloud and then automatically we can access that. You can go on to the AgTech demonstration site on the PERSA website, go to the Loxton centre farm, pull up any of these and see the data there and visualise that, view it, compare it, have a look at what's there. We might, I might not say more here, we'll move over there and I'll talk about some other things but if you've got any questions about what I've talked about so far, everyone's stunned. To access the data on the PERSA website as you said, do we need to log in? Like username and password? So on the PERSA AgTech website, some of the data sites there is a log in but the information is on the website to allow you to log in. So there will be the username and password on the PERSA website and then when you click on the link, get to the source website then you enter that information to get in. So some of the companies have made that easy in the sense that you just click on the link and you go straight there but most of them you have to enter the username and password. Okay, if we don't have any other questions we might walk across to the VitiCulture block and I'll talk about some other aspects of the tech that we've got and we're also going to have a presentation over there about the VitiVisor programme which is also happening here using the same VitiCulture patch and kind of parallel with what we're doing with AgTech demonstration. So Hans Leder from Penley State, just a question from coming past that weather station there. Just in terms of measuring cloud cover, I know weather stations can measure light intensity but is there any AgTech solution? Does anyone here today know if there's an AgTech solution which can actually categorically replace that burnt paper strip to give us a reading on when there is cloud cover? Yeah, the astronomers have sorted that out. What you do is you take an infrared sensor and you point it at the sky and measure the temperature of the sky and if there's no clouds you get the temperature of outer space or a big large sub-zero number and as soon as the cloud comes in you're actually measuring the temperature of the cloud so there's a formula you can apply and it will tell you heavy cloud, light cloud, no cloud. There are also sensors that will give you incoming solar radiation amount which doesn't actually give you cloud cover but it's obviously the more cloud you have the less incoming solar you have and there's a curve of what you expect through the day and you can infer from that. So at the Citrus site we talked about point source measurement and mainly saw what I'm monitoring. I forgot to mention that Aka primary solutions are about to install another set of sensing material over there. I just checked on the way past and it doesn't seem to be there yet so it's on the way. It's TDR, okay. So that's time-demain reflectometry which is slightly different to capacitance but it also measures your saw-water content, not tension. So another thing that we have just a couple of here is Farm Bot with measuring now normally they do levels in tanks and that sort of thing. We don't have tanks here but we've got a sensor over here on the video visor block which is measuring pressure and flow in that valve unit. So basically most of the time it's measuring nothing and then when the irrigation system runs it gives us the pressure just after the valve it gives us the flow rate after the valve and we can see that yes the system is running it's running at the right flow rate for the block or no it's gone berserk because there's all these hoses come off or whatever and what the pressure is that's running through the system. So that's another point source measurement and as I said in here and if you want to walk up this particular row here in row 17 we've got another set of saw-water monitoring technology, mostly the same things that are over in the citrus block and down in about row 13 I think is the Sentec and then there's some other gear in here that is for the video visor program which is more developmental tech other ways of measuring or new technology to measure the same things or different things and Bradley is going to talk about that shortly about that and that's kind of the step back from where we are. The ACTEC demonstration is really about demonstrating existing tech the video visor is doing is developing some new tech and other ways of integrating information so we've got all that point source data it's probably something that in my history was very familiar I guess the next step to that is then putting some spatial data on top of those point source data points and seeing okay so we've got a sensor here it's telling me this is that representative of what's happening across the rest of the block so we have a number of companies that are providing imagery so we've heard from Andy this morning so airborne logic are providing us with drone imagery we've got Ceres I'm never sure how to say that we've got Scott over here so that's airplane born imagery equipment they do regular flights both here at the arm and center of excellence and Scott asked me to let you know that if you want to give him so Scott put your hand up if you want to give him your email address he can give you notification emails or put you on the list for notification emails when there's an update of the imagery for here so you'll be able to then click on that link and go and have a look at the latest imagery we also then have some satellite imagery and I'm just going to use my cheat notes here so green brain also have imagery now in their partnership with conciliate technology thank you and deep planet are also providing imagery of either this whole property or specifically this patch and the citrus patch so you can look at the point source, soil water data, you can look at the imagery you can see how evenly things are happening across that block or whether really the point source is not the whole story and it's never the whole story and compare those different data sources on the aerobotics sorry aerobotics are also providing some imagery now some of those companies are not currently live on the website so some of that's still in development and will come online in time so this is a developing story then the agtech demonstration here will continue to grow so just because you've been to the site once and had a look doesn't necessarily mean you've got the full story Peter talked about the supplant system which is autonomously running irrigation for us so that block is across this way behind the vineyards there's a small block of the citrus you can see the citrus across here just a small block about I think it's 0.8 of a hectare or so that we're actually running that system on it's kind of a bit of a case of well we're not sure how that's going to go so here's a little patch you can use if you stuff it up it doesn't matter but that might just be my cautious nature but yeah that's we're doing that on a separate block so that's a separate exercise it's not going to interfere with any of what we're measuring here and plus Peter's using all the gear that's in here to manage the farm as well as having point source data having spatial data one of the things Peter talked about this morning and Ollie talked about and Andy talked about was the integration of all that information now some of that's happening on particular platforms so green brain is one example where we've got point source data and spatial data together on the one platform and then there's the next level up is pulling information from a range of different sources and ideally any data source you've got that's the ideal that's the difficult one because not everyone is talking to everyone else but that's the that's the holy grail I guess of Agtech is to pull all the data sources together into one place and present that data interpret that data and help you to make decisions so Swan Systems is one company that does that quite well and they're talking to most of the to talk to them about getting APIs to be able to access that information and pull it in and other companies as well that they're talking to so that's one of the platforms that we have demonstrated here and again on the website you can go and have a look at that the Swan Systems platform for this site the gold tech irrigation controller is a key part of that and basically the way Peter's using it at the moment is to take the recommendations out of actually I'm not sure Peter's over there are you using Swan or are you still making your own decisions at the almond centre of excellence Swan is actually being used as the platform for managing irrigation so there's a range of different tech there measuring both soil water monitoring and also plant based monitoring and the Anthony Wachtel who's the farm manager out there is actually pulling that all into Swan and then using Swan to actually send his irrigation schedule to the controller and so that just it's not a fully autonomous system I believe it can be but at the moment it's being used basically to give recommendations Anthony will tweak that if he feels he needs to and then upload it to the controller and away it goes AgWorld is another technology that has similar aims trying to pull data sources together integrate them and present that in one place we also have a number of technologies here that aren't in that sort of irrigation space so yes we irrigated horticulture so a lot of stuff is focused on irrigation but there's all sorts of other tech that is useful in managing an orchard that isn't necessarily directly related to irrigation so some of the other companies we have involved safe ag systems in their tech on site not so much on site here in a practical sense but safe ag systems is actually being used at the Armin Centre of Excellence as their safety system and that's about logging on as you arrive being able to see alerts for hazards and knowing who's on site and when people have arrived or gone on site is another company that does something similar and you may or may not have logged in with on site as you arrive this morning or you have the opportunity to do that in the tent later on see how their system works. Fielding is a company that are planning to do some demonstration here and COVID has got in the way because they're Victorian based so they're still trying to get here Fielding is about monitoring equipment movements and operations sensors on tractors and sprayers and slashes and so on and that will be put in place in time so that we'll be able to monitor where equipment has been moving around the property some of what we saw this morning with making sure that every row has been sprayed and that sort of information will be part of that. Taglog Australia is more about monitoring people and what they're doing and what it is in terms of harvesting or pruning or whatever operations people are involved in. UFG group are doing bird management and they're going to be installing a demonstration here hopefully and they would have been here today and showing that except that they've had some personnel issues. I'm not familiar with exactly what's going on but they weren't able to make it today. Moby Shear is cordless equipment including pruning equipment P2P Mike here I'll let you say that in the mic. You'll hear me profitability so we're the next stage on from your accounting software looking at what patches are making what amount of money for you needs to be pulled up and also forward planning so if you're pulling old plantings out putting new plantings in what's the finance look like in three or four or five years when that productivity comes back in. Thank you and also a company called Precision Technology so we've got a range of different technologies being demonstrated some with on-site hardware some not but a range of different technologies and solutions for growers and that's only going to grow with time we trust and so the way that it's set up is that there's a web version on the PERSA website and anyone can go and have a look at the data or the demonstrations but I'm here as a local contact for people who want to come and actually physically look at some of the equipment or talk to somebody who has a bit of an overview understanding of what's going on and walk people through some of the options so I'm the contact my email and phone number were on the presentation this morning and on the website and so if any growers are interested in checking out what's going on I'm the contact and we already had numbers of groups come through so we had a viticulture course come through and have a look recently various other groups all these groups came but I've also had growers ring up and say I want to come and have a look at such and such because I'm considering that and I really want to understand how it works and what it does so that's really what this is about and really just demonstrating and giving people a chance to come and have a look Brad Knot a chance to talk about the vitiviser program which is well I might let him introduce it might be simpler than me trying to tell you what I think it is so Brad. Thank you Mark Hi everybody my name is Brad Knot and I'm the project manager for vitiviser I have here today with me Wayne from the viticulture team and over the back there Ryan who's in the ground based vision team. Vitiviser is a three year five million dollar research project funded by Wayne Australia University of Adelaide and Riverland wine so vitiviser is known in the Riverland region as hands-off hectares that's the program and the project itself is called vitiviser so vitiviser is a research project aimed at lowering the cost of production for Riverland wine grape growers it has its genesis here and it has its genesis with trying to solve the pain points of wine grape growing in Riverland so what is it? It's a digital platform and it's a ground based vision system so I'm just going to briefly explain a summary of those two items and then Wayne's going to very quickly talk about the data collection and then maybe if there's questions about the ground based vision system we can refer that back to Ryan back in the marquee because we've already set up some of the prototype machinery there so this research project was designed to fix the pain points of growers we spoke about pain points earlier today some of which were about data, data integration getting rid of all those multiple apps that you're using to make an informed decision and having them all in one place so vitiviser has three distinct layers data aggregation is one, number two is a situation on awareness layer and then the third layer is about prediction and advice so the first layer, data aggregation is about getting all that data into one place from those data sources that people like Andy spoke about this morning and Olly, getting them all in one place so that you can then have them available to make decisions and some examples of that are we have CIT irrigation water data connected, we have the MEA Rang sensors connected, there is series imagery we have water markets and we have a financial software called Know Your Numbers which again it had its genesis here in the river land so you've got all this data in one place that's the first step and that solves that pain point of having 12 apps to make one decision the next step then is once you've got it all in place is what do you do with it so the research project in combination or collaboration with CSIRO uses Vine Logic, Vine Logic is a biophysical model of a vine I think it's maybe 10 to 15 years old the University of Adelaide worked with Ciro to bring it out of the bowels of Ciro it's been made open source, it's been recoded and it really is the biophysical model under the hood doing daily yield predictions so now you have all this water aggregation data from your vine yard, Vine Logic is the research has been done to assimilate the data from the vine yard with Vine Logic to give you those yield predictions so when you're in your vine yard and you need situational awareness, VitiVisor will give you what's going on with my canopy, what's going on with my finances what's going on with my irrigation and both the past, present and future so now you've got a value-added situation with the data that you've been collected in your vine yard the next layer is about prediction advice so then you say okay with my irrigation intentions what sort of yield will I get with this much water and what will my gross margin be so now you start to think about trade-offs and what ifs that are happening throughout the season so that's the digital platform, the second output is a ground-based vision system so the idea was to have a box that you could do incidental capture, put it on your ATV or your tractor and as you're driving around you're collecting data that actually is being then used and fed into the system so the ground-based vision system team have been developing a box that has RGB and thermal image cameras with a GPS to RTK GPS they've also experimenting with LiDAR and also thermal imaging as well to plug into this box and stick it on your tractor so it's now been seen just as an extended data feed that can come into the VitiVisor system, the other part of this story is about adoption and commercialization, the number one barrier for adoption of AgTech in Australia and probably worldwide is the area of adoption of AgTech, is the actual adoption and the problem is really getting the behavioural change of the growers, fixing the growers pain points, delivering things that they need and one of the differentiators of the VitiVisor project is that these ideas and the steerage of the project has come from the growers themselves so we'll be one of the innovations that the VitiVisor project has realized is how do we actually get growers in the Riverland to adopt this technology well we're going to create a social enterprise that's owned and managed by the actual growers themselves and they will own the digital platform and they will own their data and they will have control of their own data so really there's a whole other paradigm, a whole other story about data ownership and data sovereignty and the real innovation we think of VitiVisor is not the technology because there's so much technology happening and it's very rapidly happening the innovation's going to be the vehicle by which growers adopt this technology so we can talk about that some more back in the marquee the ground based vision system is tracking in a separate adoption and commercialization path all this has been developed open source and so this technology can be harvested by industry by technology organizations either in its fullness or in part there's the data there's the IP there's the algorithms there is the actual hardware itself so we want to engage with third party technology organizations for them to possibly harvest this IP and make your own products and services better it's a very rapid summary I'm just going to hand it to Wayne who's going to very briefly talk about the extent of the data collection that we've been collecting data for this project my role with the project is I'm the only pair of sort of local hands involved so these two patches I walk through weekly whenever there's any green on them with an iPhone on a selfie stick and I'm the robot at the moment that will become the automated vision collecting box that you'll bolt on your tractor so I'll walk through these patches, photograph every individual panel and so I was in here Monday and then I go online and upload a thousand images from this area a couple of gigabytes of data go up in the cloud that gets worked on by machine learning programs and so forth to sort of interface with the algorithms developed by the video canopy application you can get on your phone that comes up with a plant area index which gives you sort of a bigger map of your patches so that data goes up weekly for both of these patches and multiple others in the riverland from Blanchetown through to Murtho, it goes up in the cloud and gets processed and you can actually see some of that data, you can see the data for here on the video visor dashboard at the moment to support that at regular points through the season I support that data with physical counts so I'll do bud counts, shoot counts, bunch counts influence counts, we've got 10 test panels in each of these sites and at each of the other sites so those regular intervals at those stress points of the year or those particularly important points of the year I'll go to each of those sites and do all those sort of counts and the data that is taken from those set images that I take when those data points are collected is used by the vision team to refine and improve their machine learning programs and stuff so that when I do the weekly walk through they can come along and say ok well plant area index at the bottom of this patch decreased last week and that's because a frost went through the patch and wiped out the bottom two rows which you might have noticed on the way in down here so you can start to see those sort of things popping into your dashboard for your particular area on a regular basis and as the machine learning programs get better and better informed by the data I collect and as you get closer and closer to the vintage or the predictive capacity and abilities of the system improve to refine the forward predictions towards vintage and harvest on a weekly basis or whenever you're driving through the patch and collecting that incidental data at the moment the vision box that Ryan can show you this afternoon is based on a Raspberry Pi just has RGB sensors in there and of course good GPS data that's intended to be expanded and looked at further in terms of better precision on the GPS and other UV IR sensors as well as mentioned the possibility of lighter but at the moment I'm the robot that walks through the patch and collects this all physically and uploads it weekly. Ok so when we get back we're up to the marquee for a quick panel session before we get to lunch.


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