All right. Good morning everybody. Thank you so much for joining us My name is Kate and I'll be here to lead this discussion. I'm just gonna move that slightly Maybe we could start With some introductions, would you'd like to start a cat arena? So thank you very much for inviting me. My name is the Katerina Malievskay I'm a co-founder and former chief innovation officer of company called compass pathways the the company is focusing on accelerating patients access to innovation evidence-based innovation in mental health and the leading program is developing psychedelics for Treatment resistant depression and other conditions of significant unmet need Thanks guys. Hi everyone I'm Cosmo. I'm the CEO of another psychedelic drug development company called spectly sci-tech It actually has a very similar mission to what a cat arena just said So it's it's developing psychedelics into licensed pharmaceutical medicines to help treat conditions such as treatment resistant depression and alcohol use disorder and we're looking at kind of short duration psychedelics like five MEO DMT Great, maybe you could both tell us a little bit about how you got started in the field So I'm a physician. I was trained in internal medicine and for many years I was practicing completely oblivious to What's actually going on in the mental health care space? I wrote a lot of prescriptions for antidepressants, but never really Understood what happens to patients when they cross over to purely mental health care space and when our Family became on the receiving end of mental health care My son developed severe depression and OCD and I was trying to find help for him I found it to be probably the most challenging thing I had to do in my professional life Completely against all my expectations. So that led us to think about how to actually bring mental health care to the level of evidence-based practice and efficacy and acceptable side-effect profiles Comparable to traditional medicine mainstream medicine But also we were very aware that it hasn't been any meaningful innovation in Psychiatry in terms of second from ecological treatments and even psychological treatments And the treatments are barely effective And the treatments have tone of side effects So the we started the company. It was an involuntary start-up So we kind of didn't have a choice after we've seen the What's the you know the experience that we had And we always thought of ourselves as a mental health care company to have to have a little more holistic approach to the development of psychedelics and we have chosen psychedelics not for Necessary for the love of drugs and not with a mission to help society enlightened or let's all take psychedelics But actually as because the early studies show such promising signals Signals that haven't been seen in psychiatry At all if ever We Thought we would explore whether there is a there where that we can you know take this compounds through regular Clinical development and develop it into a medicine that would be available and integrated into the National Care Guidelines Reimbursed and accessible to everyone So that was our story Amazing. Thank you. Great. Yeah, and Our stories kind of overlap and intertwine to some extent, so I Guess my story Starts with my mother who is actually one of the kind of most well-known pioneers of psychedelic science And she's called Amanda Fielding and she's been running a non-profit for about 25 years called the Betsy Foundation and and basically that the focus of that was it was set up in the 90s when there was a Real kind of it was like the dark ages of research when it came to psychedelics and and her Mission was to kind of Reignite scientific research into psychedelics and how they work in the brain and how they can be used to help people and because basically She and I think we all felt that these drugs were being ignored because of social stigma rather than good scientific reasons and so Beckley Foundation was one of a very very small group of of kind of institutes that were trying to support researchers who who wanted to look at this area and so in the 20 or so years they they were involved in a lot of the kind of most seminal research So some of the research the Caterina was just talking about it the in academic setting So small academic centers like Imperial College and Johns Hopkins and NYU started doing amazing research and And so then what happened after that was then suddenly there was enough evidence to say okay Let's move to the next stage which is move take this data out of the kind of academic center and move into a kind of fully Fledged drug development program where we can not just do interesting science But actually make these medicines available legally available through the regulatory system as Proper mainstream medicine so that that's kind of why we set up Beckley sci-tech to kind of move to the next chapter and Compass what the Caterina did was started before us. So we've kind of been working in in similar kind of areas anyway Can you tell me a little bit about what have been the most successful? Treatments in terms of pervasive conditions or drug condition. Sorry drug resistance mental health conditions Within psychedelics So I mean well, I mean please the so I'd say that the in terms of regulatory stages the the furthest ahead is MDMA for post-traumatic stress disorder, so that's MDMA in conjunction with psychological support for for treating people with post-traumatic stress disorder and and that's a nonprofit slash benefit corp have been running it called maps and They've been around for a very very long time as well and and they've completed their phase three So in clinical development, you know, it goes pre-clinical first You have to show it in pre-clinical models. Then you go into healthy volunteers. That's phase one phase two is showing in in some Patients that it's safe and effective and then phase three is the large Patient population where you show it safe and effective and they've completed phase three And so hopefully are on track to actually get that approved by the FDA within the next year or so year or two and then Coming up close behind when I'll pass over to Katerina because really it's what compass are doing Well, we will see it's a marathon, right? We'll see how long it will all take So we have cell seven day develop clinical development program Come 360 which is the synthetic proprietor synthetic formulation of Cell cybern that we finished face-to-be study a dose finding study that showed actually for the field of psychiatry remarkable results In the highest dose that was well-tolerated 37% of people responded or remitted after just one administration and 29% of them maintain response in remission three months later. So that is a paradigm shift for treatment and psychiatry But it's not only just pharmacological effects of it, but it's also Incredibly empowering for patients. They I think the the value that patients see in this approach is that They feel that there is a sense of agency there is a sense of self-efficacy that they can separate themselves from the symptoms of depression and that's that is a very powerful realization and Insight that they gained during this treatment. So that's our program and then of course, there are a number of other companies that are Developing, you know a variety of psychedelics and cosmos company is just one of them a very interesting compound Do you want to talk about that? Yeah, I mean and maybe it's worth giving just the context of how Psycho psychedelics are being kind of used as treatment. So I think just to clarify it's you know it's being delivered in conjunction with Psychological support and and basically the way it works is If you're a patient, you'll first kind of meet up with the therapist and get what's called Preparation therapy. So it's basically preparing you for the experience kind of and Preparing you to think about what you're trying to get out of the experience then you go to a clinic where the drug is administered While being supervised by the therapists in the room So it is you know under close supervision and then subsequently they're given what's called integration Therapy which is to kind of process the experience and use it for kind of long-term behavioral change, right? So so that's kind of basically the way the treatments are working broadly speaking now broadly speaking and And the different compounds can be dropped in there Depending on the different indications the different kind of conditions that are being treated, etc So the the condition that the drug that we're looking at primarily is a drug called five MEO DMT Which is it's interesting because it's known to be very very potent, but also very short in duration. So drugs like Oral MDMA and oral psilocybin and LSD to some extent they've had by far the most research done on them Historically, so they're the most well characterized drugs There's the most data on their safety and their efficacy in a range of different drugs and and you know certainly I expect MDMA and psilocybin to be the first drugs that become approved But then there are these other psychedelics like five MEO DMT, which are much less Researched so far, but they have some very interesting characteristics. So the idea with five MEO DMT is because it's so short in duration The hope is that people spend less time in the clinic and therefore potentially it can be kind of a more cost-effective treatment all of this is to be Born out in the research. So we're we're earlier stage But there's there's a lot to be kind of that and there are lots of other interesting compounds and then analogues that are being developed Completely new unique psychedelic compounds that are being developed as well exciting stuff and how long does the I Guess the benefits last so far in the research Well, that's a very good question. And I think that well one of the things that we were talking about before as I think there's There's a bit of a danger with psychedelics where they attract Sensational headlines whether it's good or bad. I think and and so there can be a sense and at the moment We're in a wave of positive news around psychedelics. Obviously Previously there's been a wave of very negative news back in the 60s, etc and I think there is there's been some amazing data where you People have been given a single dose of psychedelics and they've recovered for a whole year or you know indefinitely from Depression or whatever it is. I think I think companies like ours are trying to kind of temper expectations You know, it's not a miracle cure for everyone kind of thing but it hopefully is effective and durably effective for a Significant period of time. So I think well your your study you can talk about but it was you know We're seeing results for three a single dose can have durable effects for three months at least kind of thing, which is pretty amazing, I would just say that despite the encouraging results, I would say do not try it at home because I Think not everyone responds. It is definitely not a miracle drug and we still don't know who is more likely to respond who is more likely to respond adversely and Anything that can help you can hurt you and so we still The way I think the psychedelic industry if you always sector psychedelic sector approaches it. I think is very Sensible that we are systematically challenging the assumptions that were made in the 50s and 60s Do we need to have two therapists? Do we need to have extensive? preparation and integration how much patients really do need and those are all Empirical questions that could be answered in the research So we can select and support patients in the best way possible and optimize the outcomes so that I think is the You know the goal and the future and so the therapy optimization, I think You know maybe that the drugs themselves are not even so innovative But the therapy optimization research is a cutting edge and the most interesting part of it and I think right one of the big questions for the whole field is You know how many doses at what interval are going to be required to? Not just get someone well, but keep someone well because conditions like depression. They're Traditionally a chronic depression. So, you know, there are waves of depression that people suffer and the question is We're characterizing at the moment what a single dose does and how long it can last but I think a secondary question a very important one is Okay, say a single dose can get someone out of their symptoms and get them into remission How long does that last or at what point does that person one second is it as their relapse? So those are the things that the the field needs to discover but that requires a lot more research Absolutely, and how do you recruit people and what is the eligibility for that? Well There are different ways of recruiting patients for studies I think patients Patients and psychiatrists and care health care providers have now much more informed about all the research that is going on in psychedelics on all the trials that are going on psychedelics and so Patients can reach out proactively or they can be referred by a health care provider and so that requires a lot of education of Physicians who would refer a therapist who would refer patients, but also I think a lot of kind of balanced conversations in the media because Patients might want might come with unrealistic expectations.  No available treatments work for them so they oftentimes see it as a last resort and They literally say I'm here to be cured and it may may not happen So I think more balanced conversations about potential of psychedelics is is really really important and When we talk about mental health, we know it's an area that's been traditionally Short-funded in the public health system particularly. How do you see this? I guess playing out in a more public inclusive health sector in Mental health in general or particularly psychedelics. Yeah Well, I think psychedelics You know because they are scheduled substances By definition the schedule one means that they don't have Medical benefits and they have high potential for abuse none of which is true and I think the signs the existing evidence now Showed very clearly that psychedelics have medical potential So Increasingly government for agency started funding research in psychedelics. They Swiss government funded research Large study of psilocybin in depression German government funded the Another trial in Germany and an AMH and NIDA in the US started funding psychedelic research So there is a little bit of a movement on that and also MHRA in the UK. Not a major at nice NHR Started funding psychedelic research, but in general of course mental health is such a complex Area that it requires really, you know thoughtful and harmonized approach to funding because there are different parts. It's an ecosystem of You know elements that don't have commercial Viability that only can be developed as nonprofits and then there is There are parts that are clearly businesses that like drug development clinical development And so all these parts need to work together in harmony and that is the challenge of the funding Maybe Just to clarify one of the things that what we're both trying to do in terms of making these drugs available is It's not about drug policy reform What we're trying to do is take the drugs through the classic pharmaceutical drug development approach And if you can show that your specific formulation of a specific psychedelic drug When delivered in a specific way is not only safe, but effective at treating a condition like depression Then the regulators like the MH like the MHRA in the UK or the FDA in the US then they basically have to like agree that that is a prescribable medicine, so there's There there'll be a change of scheduling for that drug, but there's not it's not a big political Drug policy question. It is a kind of scientific medical question that can this drug be prescribed And once it can be prescribed then the question is where and how is it prescribed and I think Compass have been doing a lot of work on that as they're kind of close to the market But I think generally speaking the expectation is that there will be kind of specialist interventional psychiatry centers basically where People go to have Psychiatric interventions whether that's so there's a drug called spravato at the moment Which is already out on the market. That's as ketamine so it's Johnson and Johnson developed it and it is a kind of ketamine Analog that's been approved for treatment resistant depression So that's already out there now, and that's actually on track to become a quite successful Drug for treatment resistant depression and so that's kind of laying the the groundwork for where these Drugs can be administered again. It has to be delivered under supervision in particular centers with particular training And I think as more drugs become available They'll be increasing numbers of these centers and they'll be increasingly kind of spread across the world And I guess related to that. What does training look like? I mean, I imagine there's a whole group of Psychiatrists coming out of training now looking for the future. Well, is this already embedded in Medical training or is it something that will be introduced? How how will it manifest? Yeah, I think in order to do large-scale late-stage clinical trials We had to train a lot of therapists and we had to educate a lot of health care providers In what to expect what patients are suitable what patients are not suitable. So over the period of six years that our company exists I think we've been in interactions with a lot of health care providers and we've trained Over 300 therapists already and so all this capacity building in the in the in the system will translate into more and more training and more You know as we gear towards launch post approval It will still be You know, we will still continue learning how to train You know what the best approach is so it will be an ongoing process, but I think we have they the basics down Yeah, and I think exactly at the moment again, this is one of the interesting things for the industry I think if we look into the future I think we expect this to be a class a new class of medicine for mental health and there'll be Multiple compounds that will be available and at the moment each company is having to train therapists specifically to their compound to be able to deliver their compound for the which is In when you look into the future that is not very efficient So there are multiple therapists who have had to gone through our training as well as compasses training as well as maps for MDMA Training, which is a lot of training and there's a lot of overlap So, you know in the future, hopefully there'll be some more kind of Standardized system which makes it kind of easier to train the scale and number of people that we we need to train And a question I didn't ask earlier. I know you mentioned nasal sprays in both of your trials How are you administering the treatment? So one ours is ours is intranasal So it's the drug that we've developed Five MEO DMT is actually if you take it orally, it's not kind of bio available So it needs to be delivered But kind of it needs to avoid the first-past metabolism and so intranasal is a kind of well-established Roots of administration for For delivering those kinds of drugs. So we're yeah, we're delivering it intranasally, but I think We formulated it as a capsule so patients take a capsule and you know that day of administration looks like the patients come into the clinic Go into the non-clinical the room that we you know turn into sort of non-clinical environment non-stimulating various soothing colors And patients take the capsule And lie down on the couch put on the eye shades and listen to specially designed Music playlist that sort of follows the pharmacokinetic of the drug And that experience lasts about About four to six hours and the therapist is always with a patient in the room To support if anything if patient needs anything But that's that's a normal formulation and that's how the experience looks like and that's What a Katerina is saying there is also I think important for for kind of psychedelics like psilocybin and five MEO DMT I think What people sometimes don't understand is they think oh you're in a room with a therapist for the whole duration of That psychedelic experience You just kind of chat having a therapy session a kind of talk therapy session and generally speaking certainly with both of our drugs Actually that what the patient is prepared and encouraged to do is to actually kind of close their eyes and kind of look Introspectively and go through their own personal experience. It's not a kind of psychotherapy chat That the the therapist in the room is there to make them feel safe and make them feel if they do need support Make them feel safe and make them feel comfortable Going back into the experience and kind of surrendering to the experience rather than having a big chat if you see what I mean Okay, and let's talk a little bit about the future. I mean, I know with Healthcare in general there's a lot more of a trend towards Digital digital first telemedicine things like that remote settings. Do you see any of these things playing into the psychedelic therapies? Yeah, absolutely. I think that There are a lot of questions about scalability of the treatments because it's you know, it's Six to eight hours of the session plus preparation and integration. How can we? Make it more scalable without sacrificing safety and potentially even optimizing the outcomes. So all this research is ongoing. We are looking at For example The predictor we're looking at large language models We're using large language models to analyze patients narratives before during and after to understand the potential predictors of adverse events or potential predictors of Better clinical outcomes. We're also learning how to support patients better based on the What they've identified in preparation so in and make that More efficient and increasing patient safety. So there are many technological sort of add-ons that we could Deploy together with psychedelics. Yeah, and I mean I completely agree and I think Digitals, I think we both agree digital is going to play a really important role in making these medicines as scalable and affordable as possible and I think That there are a number of ways that they can play a part like a catering was saying firstly I mean the dream scenario is to be able to identify Which people are going to respond and not respond kind of predictively so that you can maximize the efficiency of the treatment firstly so you kind of Select the people who are going to respond best In addition, there's the kind of the easier thing is at least providing digital tools to help prepare patients And support patients afterwards and I think if you the way psychedelics seem to work is there's this kind of you know Psychological experience and there's also a kind of physiological Underpinning where we've seen in the brain that there's this kind of neuroplasticity. There's synaptogenesis. There's new Neurons being there's a lot going on in the brain anyway, but it creates this window of neuroplasticity which basically allows people to change their behavior in the long term and That this window is a potentially an amazing opportunity for digital Interventions to come in and actually be more effective than if they were just being given to someone who hadn't had a psychedelic treatment So there's a lot of potential synergy between the kind of digital therapeutics and the kind of pharmacotherapy of Psychedelics and there is also I think one caveat with psychedelics. This is not everyday medication This is one off and then there is a period of time when patients maintain response or remission but at some point some of them will start deteriorating and if we can follow this patients prospectively and Understand when they start sliding back into depression and treat them more preventatively avoiding that sort of ups and downs that predict they undesirable course of depression that would you know digital phenotyping would be super helpful in managing this patients great I think we've done all we can do today time-wise although I think we could have spoken for another hour frankly such a great topic Probably. Thank you so much for joining me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you


Hi guys, welcome to another vlog starting with from my bathroom. I've been logged a week. Um I respect also I just was not in the space to vlog. Um, I'm really I'm just working on like black eyes matter related content and all that stuff But I've missed you guys So so so much and I also just want to say that just as content kind of goes back to like quote-unquote normal That doesn't mean that like I'm not fighting them up with you guys, and I'm not like I don't have your back 3,000% so this past week has been Just like obviously really heavy especially I mean for the black community and also just for the world I've been hosting a time obviously did it up to a dog the videos up here, and I know I've mentioned it in the past Few logs. I just want to say that just as my content I'm kind of goes back to quote-unquote normal That doesn't mean that I'm like finding any less or educating myself less or anything like that I think it's also important to do a bunch of stuff off-camera. I love you guys I'm gonna continue to listen read educate myself fight for donate sign positions Basically, whatever I possibly can so I love you guys so much And I think the progress even that's just been made like it's a start, you know today was absolutely incredible I got the opportunity to kind of host a Pilates class online with they let and then we were Benefiting an organization. We're gonna do it again We're gonna switch what organization we're donating to but it's $10, and then we're having it again on Friday I think this plug probably be up later, but it's all over my Instagram and stuff Anyways, it was just so incredible like the conversation we had after the meditation and everything after the workout was just like Literally unreal also guys. I have a new hair routine once my hair is dry I will share it with you guys in the past few vlogs. I've just been talking about my hair It's been super super dry lately But I actually found some new products that I like even more that I wanted to share with you guys So we'll be talking about that too Anyways, I love you guys. I miss you guys even just not vlogging like for a few days and uploading this past week I like really really missed you guys Which is what it feels because like we're on Instagram and stuff still but like I just missed you guys Oh, yeah, so obviously we have some major house updates the main one being the fact that there are squirrels in my walls I cannot make this up. They're in this wall. I hear them I know that they're squirrels because it's during the day. They need to get taken care of and they still have yet to I keep calling people and they can't come to my house. It's not enough time like it's just literally awful So that's kind of what I've been dealing with a little bit today.  I've been editing and just getting some work done I'm so tired. Honestly. I need a 30 minute up. I don't know why I'm so exhausted Just wanted to give you guys a little book update on books I've read this past week. Honestly, I didn't read as much as I would normally read just because I was focusing on white fragility And just like watching a ton of documentaries and just things to educate myself. I finished with a crawled out thing I don't know if I mentioned that in a vlog. I liked it. I'm not as obsessed with it as everyone else's I thought it was good, but I think it's a little bit overhyped in my opinion I don't know don't come for me, please Also, I'm just not the kind of girl who wants to read about a girl in a marsh marsh either like it's just not Really my vibe, but I definitely think it was a good book. The beginning was really slow I read write fragility. That is like such an incredible book. I think everyone needs to read it I also read wish you were here Really good sad, and then I just started November 9th last night. Honestly, I hadn't read at all besides white fragility Until last night. I finished that book and then I started this one, so I'm not that far into it But yeah, those are my updates. Okay, so anyways tonight. I'm gonna go over to my cousin Alyssa's She's got a new apartment. That's even closer to me, which is awesome So we're gonna see the new place and get some food and stuff That is the plan my hair. I would like to knock it over how soft my hair is but yeah anyways I'm gonna go there.  Who would have ever thought guys.  I'm just like No one finds this to be an emergency. It's actually unbelievable Also, besides that I wasn't gonna have like more health issues But like it feels like I'm summer zero even though I haven't been in the pool and it's like so so painful Okay, so I need to show you guys a lot of things that I've Received over the past week some of this I purchased some of this is gifting The first thing I'm gonna show is from shoplah. Haley. She did an Instagram takeover on that It'd be so much Instagram at this past week, which was awesome But first thing I got is this really cute dress. I like how there's just like the cutout You can't really see this is a cutout just a little bit and I just thought this would be super cute It's super light which is like what I need because it's so hot here And this really cute blue scrunchie which she just threw in the package and she's so nice And these are really cute like blue tie-dye socks. So I'm really excited about this. They'll look great with my Air forces. Hey first things first. I actually picked up three One of them I've already been using of the replacements of Saban illa's Luxem filter self-tanner. It's the best self-tanner ever It's gradual it's like literally I put it on tonight I'm wearing white because it doesn't get on your right clothes doesn't transfer. It's not sticky super moisturizing I've gone through this, but I've tried like every self-tanner Under the Sun and this is the best one I've ever used. I don't think I'll ever strike I love it so much that I bought three to have like as backup So the only thing I will say is I feel like I run out of it pretty quickly But it's just the best thing ever and I don't care Okay I have a bunch of stuff from Revolve Beauty that I'll quickly go through and they sent me some clothing that I picked out and then They just threw this in the package So I have an anti-pollution purifying mist this hydrate and nourish moisturizer a Dr. Brandt pour primer which I have actually and then a chlorine shampooing Like dry shampoo and then a white toothpaste this toothpaste is like really really cool looking so I'm excited to try that Okay, I have a lot of clothes from Revolve guys. Thank God. I really need to close so bad I'm following my Instagram and posting more stuff But I have these girlfriend denim shorts that I think are so cute I like how they're longer because I'm really particular about like denim shorts And I love how these are longer because I just don't like what my butt's out not even because my butt's out I just think it's not flattering this cute little bodysuit here. I could for sure be wearing a cute outfit tonight Maybe I'll change. Okay, then I have this really cute top that I'm just gonna wear It's like a mesh cover up to swimsuits or something a pair of white jeans from Superdown Superdown is a way more Affordable line on a super on Revolve and I really like a lot of their stuff. It's really great quality I got another pair of girlfriend denim jeans girlfriend is my favorite.  Can someone please tell me how I pronounce it? These are just the best and they have a seam kind of going down the back But they're just like the best quality jeans and so for you flattering. I have a bunch from them I got this green dress, I didn't realize it had chain Strops, but this green like midi dress. I like how it's like neon and super cute thin. I think this is so Pretty I hope it's a long enough now that I'm really looking at it, but it's from Superdown It's just like beautiful. There's a little bit of lace at the top, but I just think it's so cute Okay I got this because I'm have a vision for a shoe and this is like the most beautiful dress Unreal and then you go down and there's like French at the bottom. Oh my gosh. It's so beautiful Love that more than like anything. So this is a pink dress little stripes. Just think it's super cute I have this blue mini dress that is super thin like super super soft It's gonna be the most comfortable thing ever to wear have I have so much stuff guys this pink dress Which I love it's this little baby doll dress and I just think it's gonna be so Beautiful to wear this summer. Oh my gosh. I love baby doll dresses. I have another a white little Blouse, that's just like a good staple to have another white dress, which is part of my shoot Vision that I have so that is super cute And then I have this pink dress that I believe where's it from again LPA. I think I probably should have gotten a small I got a medium, but just like amazing quality. So pretty so cute love. So that's what I have for my haul I hope you guys enjoyed. I literally cannot hear out of my right ear. So Decided to change to go to a list is just because it's like why not also These are the girlfriend jeans that I showed you and I got a size 28. I always size up in these jeans I'm normally a 27 just because they run really small, but I feel like they're a little bit big around my waist But they fit my legs. So I don't know my grandma also is a seamstress So I can get all this stuff like perfectly taken in which I think I will do anyways I think this body suit is actually from an old revolve order From super down I want to say and then I just have my air force ones on and throw my purse So this is the look and then I'll probably end up throwing my hair up because I just am so bad about actually keeping it down. Like it's very hard for me to do apparently Matalisa's new place she somehow has already literally moved in within a span of hours. I'm very confused also Confirmed. I do have summer's year call my doctor and now we're getting meds guys. My life is I'm like a mess, okay? Anyways, so cute. Look at the new place. We'll be here lots even closer to me Here's the beautiful nice kitchen people love towards Alyssa. I'm just invading her entire space, but it's fine We're good. Um over here. Oh, this is the washer and dryer. These doors just make it look so like fat, you know a great closet What are these doors? What are those just like? Stories, okay. Oh I love the miscellaneous. I appreciate the thick shelves. I really do like that. Is that just like the vent is It's a water heater. Oh Super exciting. That's where I think oh wait. No, it isn't I just have a closet where all the squirrels are right now guys and then you walk in Great, I love how you're gonna get some light up here from this. I like how it still is open I love this door and then yep, Alyssa exactly. We're not done though. We're not done now, and we're not done yet We're not done yet. Oh, I love how this is so tall Oh, you're sunburn It's not that actually red guys. I have one. I don't think you can even see any marks. I self-tanned, but I saw Alyssa I did have it's my savannah list of I did have a tan line from my run yesterday We are also runners still. Yeah, don't now we're gonna start running together because I am so close so close no excuses No excuses. We're feeling good about this. I hate the bra that I'm wearing, but whatever Anyways, it's looking great. Everyone Love it. So I'm feeling Alyssa and all what my father has said today And I thought I would share with you guys as well First off, he thought it was funny that there's squirrels in my house We called him sad was over the night and we were like screaming and he's like, you'll be fine No, this is what he says I'm so happy we tracked Victor Don who's gonna help us out. Okay. I hear you now stop I have it under control love you if it is indeed a squirrel squirrel emoji We should name him either Simon or Sammy thoughts Simon sounds much more educated. I feel he reads book emoji books since you like to read I Can't read as soon as I say since yeah, since you like to read too as well This may be the better fit for you and Coco. You may want to only give him E books he made chew on paper books just a thought and then he sends me this photo People I literally cannot believe him at all. I know so the squirrel It's gonna be me Coco and the squirrels this weekend guys. All right guys We just went to see the odds It's much later to pick up my summer's year prescription and all the pharmacy was closed so It's just getting worse by the minute if you've had summer's year before you guys know it's just like the most uncomfortable Painful experience, so we're gonna pick up my car and go back to my house We're listening to Lynn and Stella as always We love her. She's our modern-day Jojo. I should really a release. That's a very big thing for us to say That's a huge claim because we love Jojo. We love Jojo I Guys I am a wreck first off. Hi, I just finished the book November 9th by Colleen Hoover I was not planning on reading it read for like three hours this morning It's literally like noon at this point and I finished the book and it was so good One of you guys recommended it to me in my DMs and I always just like I'll read that because it's Colleen Hoover Oh my gosh. It was so good. I have become a romance book person It's like really weird. I haven't read a thriller a bit, but oh my gosh. It was so good. I can literally cannot get over it Okay update on my outfit guys.  It's always annoying. So I'm just gonna wear them for now because I'm gonna be laying out anyway So it doesn't matter. I'm wearing just like a white like high-waisted Suit from Aerie and then this top is Revolve. Anyways, I'm gonna clean really quick of about 30 minutes until Liz is getting here I need to blast music and like get in the mood because that book literally made me want to cry Now I have a bunch of friends coming over. This is my first time having friends over since getting this house more than one person Majority of my like childhood friends literally haven't even been here because the only people who've seen this house are really like Maddie and Sav just because of quarantine and blah blah blah, but it's been lifted for a while here So I thought why not, you know, so anyways, I'm gonna get to cleaning I'm gonna feel really good about it and blast the music and then we're gonna go to the store and pick up some stuff So it's gonna be super fun. Yeah, I'm so excited because my parachute home Sham came in I've had these sitting here Waiting all week. Okay. I just realized that they're definitely the wrong color. So um Yeah, I'm gonna have to return and get the right color. All right guys in with Liz. We're on my phone now We're going into Trader Joe's To make a complete spread for our pool day today because we really need it also second time this week Apparently Liz was wearing this shirt earlier and then she changed So if I would have gotten in a car wearing this it would be the second time this week that we showed up in the same outfit So Okay, we stopped at Lollaland and I got the strawberry fields that I love Liz is inside her house right now She got an Arnold Palmer though, but anyways, it's like this is literally the best drink ever I didn't even mix it fully, but it's a matcha drink with I don't know It's like a matcha drink with strawberry and it is literally the best thing you'll ever have Ugly fridge really just makes me mad Literally makes me so mad You know, I had a dream last night that my sink was like completely open at the bottom I don't know why Yeah, not good. Okay, so we are making some snacks. Yes, there's only on five people basically coming so Like including us the big six total. Yeah, yeah, but we're going all out because this is the most exciting We've had in quite some time. So we're gonna make what is it? What was it again? Strawberry vodka frozen drink dragon fruit Dragon fruit inspired by tiktok So that's really exciting my first drinks inspired by tiktok, but you already made them right? Are you just want to make them? No, I haven't made it yet. Oh, you have it. Okay, great We're really looking forward to this. We'll take you guys along on the process It's a treasured reviews. Oh, yeah, the like classic one. It looks like I have like underwear. That's like Okay Well guys, just call me a florist look at how beautiful this looks. Okay. What do we have so far? Lime in Yeah, so I don't even have a shot glass here. So I Used to have a Texas shot glasses and I like that we're cute Miss those before my la house went away forever. Yeah, just like we'll just hope for the best there Also, all of this stuff is seriously beautiful This I'm sure on the flea market went to last week. These black bulls with target pottery barn These are lizards. That's why I'm telling you guys And these are red himself because I don't have like serving stuff still which is like what I really Need because it's my greatest passion in life is to host at this point I'm gonna cut a watermelon shout out to Danielle Never done this before is there a certain way that you cut a watermelon might be a dumb question But I'm calling the watermelon queen yourself Hey girly, um, I have a watermelon. I just wanted to call and say hello. Also, um, how do I cut this thing? So that's how we should have done this is my friend Liz I'm walking by the way. Okay. Well, I'm just gonna try my best, but I just wanted to pay my respects Yeah, but behind the camera here, I'll show you So fine this looks Absolutely amazing. Do not mind my hands. Seriously. It's embarrassing. I don't care this literally looks like the best thing I've ever seen Here's our snacks that we will eventually bring upstairs looking so beautiful Coco, how are you doing girl? Wow?  This has really taken over as far as hostess duties today. This is beautiful creation I don't even know if you can tell how beautiful it is. Okay. Taste test. Are you ready? They're so good. You don't like it. I think I need to add a little. No, it's good. It's good Yeah, I think it's very good. No, it's very good. I think it's perfect. Okay. I'm just like thinking okay You are picky. No, this is actually satisfied. No, this is really incredible. Yeah. Oh my gosh guys It's so hot up here, but here's our spread So cute mostly done by Liz. The pool is getting refilled. Okay That's the number one thing we're doing because it is so hot and the pool seriously saves you In times like this through top is just looking beautiful So I have Maui babe, but guys like Maui babe It just like really stains my swimsuits, but it works amazing So I have it on now, but I switched into a black one because it was reading my white one This is what we have speaker. I still haven't moved the turf up here I don't know why and Liz is a genius and tied this up So we're filling up the pool because this is like exactly what we need right now. It is so hot Here we go. Beautiful It is now 1145 my friends just left. We've literally been on the rooftop that entire time Like all day long. Um, it was just so good. There's something about hometown friends that it's just like so easy with Like it's I just needed it so bad. So I'm glad that happened. Um, we already have plans for next week But yeah, anyways the boys just left. Um, they helped me clean because they're angels and Texans That's what happens. They go to bed and pick out a new book. I'm really excited probably another calling Hoover I know it's not surprising Okay, last night I started maybe someday big calling Hoover as well big calling Hoover girl these days Um, but I'll let you guys know how I like it. I'm only like 11 percent of the way through happy Sunday everyone. Um First off, it's weird because the squirrels have been gone the past two days But they were here from like Tuesday to Friday. So I don't know if they take weekends off or what? Um, but it's like 1 p.m. I slept in a little bit and then I did a really really long morning routine and honestly I just feel like So heavy still not that like really this will ever go away I guess but Just like thinking about like where our world is at and like everyone who's hurting it's just like I don't know. I'm just like not in the best mood right now um, but I'm trying to like go do something because I feel like I really need to Recharge and I feel like this past week. I was like so Learning educating doing all of this stuff But like I was barely even doing my divos like I just wasn't like taking care of myself at all Which I don't think is good for anyone like I I feel like I can't really Help with anything if like I'm not in a good place not obviously this is not about me But you know what I mean? I feel like just for anyone like you can't really help if you're not in a good place Look at her right now. She's seriously. Oh my gosh. She's like my best friend ever. I love you Coco you were my best decision ever So with that being said, I think I'm gonna try to have um a recharging day That's what I was trying to do this weekend. Um, and I feel like this morning It just like really hit me and I'm just like, oh my gosh. Yeah, so that's where we're at I'm just hanging out with good ol cocoa. Oh my gosh. You're so cute guys I got a package from b golden which I was actually looking at it and it seems like a perfect thing for me And I just accidentally mess that up. Okay So basically it's just gold coffee pouches. They roast their beans at lower temperatures So then it has like a smooth gold coffee. So it drinks more like a tea But it's like regular coffee. So really exciting. Um, I'm not gonna make this notice that I already have coffee But I'm really excited. I would definitely be like sharing this in a vlog So I think it's really interesting especially because lately I've been saying that coffee feels too heavy But I need the caffeine, you know, so anyways also love the mug Okay, so I'm still not feeling my best, but I do have Texas peaches and trying to just, you know, be healthy if you well I'm just playing some music. I FaceTime like three friends. No one answered, but it's fine. I'm fine Um, my cousin Alyssa is called and I think she's actually gonna come pick me up at like Two or three and we're gonna go get like a smoothie or something somewhere because that sounds so good It is so hot guys Like I tried my best to go on the rooftop and read and do my diva up there and like I just like couldn't make it Anyways, I'm including this portion because I feel like maybe I even have something scariest today. Like I don't really know what's up Um, like I don't know. I just am like not feeling my absolute best. On a brighter note I was actually thinking this morning and I've been pretty bad about my gratitude journal too I've been pretty bad about like everything as far as self-care lately and just like My not really my routine. I think I don't want my routine, but like self-care Um, and I was just thinking especially last night when I was like with my friends that I've been friends with since That was like 10 And how this house and like being back in texas is like such an entered prayer that like I had no idea It would be because obviously I wasn't like praying specifically to move back to texas for the longest time Even though I love texas It's like having all those relationships And I have a home where I feel so comfy and like the best location that I could ever ask for like My family lives so close to me. It's just like the relationships that I have in the community and the life that I have here I'm so grateful for it. I love my life in la too. I just feel like I don't know. I do feel just like very fulfilled I don't really know how to describe it because I don't even mean the house as like a materialistic thing Like obviously this place is like above and beyond what I could have ever imagined to like live in and have at 22 Like I'm so grateful for that. But I think way more so it's the fact that my family is so close I have all these friendships and relationships with like all these people growing up that I love that I didn't think I would like be able to see as regularly as like I'll be able to now Which those people like mean literally the world to me And just like so many things. I don't know. I feel like I just like this house and like being here's a good constant reminder If like I cannot believe that this is my life and I'm so grateful Um for it and just I don't know So I think I've just been thinking a lot about gratitude as well and how like I Don't feel like I even deserve the life that I have. I don't know. I'm just like so grateful in this house In the least materialistic way possible is like the biggest Like answered prayer for me and like what it what this house really needs and like symbolizes for me I don't know how to describe it. So that's one good thing.  We got a chicken biscuit and avocado toast to split It is so cute All right guys, I'm back from Alyssa's. Um, we stopped at foxtrot I don't know why I'm talking so weird and it was so good Tonight Liz and I are actually going to go to dinner. I know it's a really crazy time here. This has been Open since I think like a May 1st or something. Um, we're about to be in phase three um, so this has been Like an option for like well over a month.  So which is like really cute. We have reservations at 7 30 and it's currently 5 30 So it is 7 i'm now ready I just facetime tk and morgan for quite some time Um, I have a box and try not to take out But i'm wearing this dress from revolve that I showed you guys in the hall early in this vlog Wearing a dress is like so easy because it's so comfortable. Um, and it's so freaking hot So i'm not gonna be dying and then I put on like really really light makeup This is like my favorite makeup look right now Um, I actually didn't put on the wonder glow for once now that I think about it But anyways, listen to some of us here. She's picking me up and we're going to parody. So which i'm really excited for I'm gonna not record this way She's so happy coco. You are just the cutest thing ever. It was so cute. I actually ran into janine I hope you guys enjoyed this weekend of my life vlog. Um, I'm so excited to be uploading again Coco's really like just wants to okay. Coco just really wants to play So I have to go but I hope you guys enjoyed this weekend of my life vlog. I love you guys and I'll talk to you soon


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It is a packed day folks We are gonna talk about all the WWC Dc announcements iPad OS the new Mac Pro the crazy expensive display with an even more expensive Well, it's not technically more expensive, but a very expensive monitor stand Let's start with a few tech things you should know Oh speaking of monitors LG is taking pre-orders for its first 8k OLED TV the 88 inch LG 88 z9 with 7680 by 43 20 resolution the TV's processor uses some deep learning to upscale images and generate virtual 5.1 surround sound with support for Dolby at most pre-orders in Korea cost 40 million won That's roughly 34,000 US dollars final retail will be 50 million won The AK TV from LG goes on sale in North America and Europe in Q3 of this year only 34,000 Samsung announced a new 13 and 15 inch notebook 7 windows laptop with diamond cut edges a wide trackpad and slim bezels Looking very similar to MacBook pros unlike Apple laptops though the notebook 7s come with two usb 3.0 ports only one usb-c port an hdmi port Micro SD card slot prices start at a thousand dollars come into the us july 26th Samsung also announced the notebook 7 force with an nvidia gtx 1650 graphics card an ethernet port and base level 16 gigabytes of ram That one starts at a thousand four hundred ninety nine The us state department has updated its applications forms for us visa applicants requiring nearly all to submit social media Usernames previous email addresses and phone numbers that information was previously required only for applicants deemed to need Extra scrutiny and was about 65,000 people per year There are approximately 15 million visa applicants to the us per year. So this ramps things up some ways The sunday telegraph reports sources saying that chinese security researchers have been finding security vulnerabilities in 5g equipment from nokia and ericsson And passing that information to it specialists who are testing the equipment for possible 5g rollouts in europe The idea is that when the testing ends on june 10th Huawei could point to the results and affect eu evaluations and try to undermine security concerns about its own equipment google announced a live stream for thursday june 6th at 12 p.m Eastern to announce details about google stadia the stream called stadia connect will include launch info game announcements and price Let's talk a little bit more about huawei real quick xiao ming president of the honor brand of huawei phones Told a media briefing in shanghai friday that it is too early to say whether the us trade restrictions on huawei Will prevent it from achieving a goal of becoming the top smartphone vendor in the world by the end of next year Well, it's not looking good because the south china morning post reports its sources say fox con Has stopped several production lines for huawei phones. You may have seen headlines saying all it's not all but it is several Because huawei has reduced its orders. It is not clear if the cut is temporary or not fox con can do this They're designed to be able to like on a dime shut down a few lines to adapt to orders and then ramp them back up So it's not the end of the world for huawei at the moment But it's certainly not good news and the financial times reports that china's hengtong opti electric Is going to buy huawei's 51 stake in huawei marine systems which lays undersea cables Because that company was having too hard a time getting people to agree to let them lay undersea cables I mean, sure huawei can say we too early to tell how this is going to shake out and and I suppose that's true I I certainly can't see it but It is it's moving in the wrong direction for the company Especially with the overall market of smartphones being a little lackluster Yeah, I mean, what are you going to say if they're like, hey, uh, is this going to affect your your 2020 goal? Yes, no one knows yet. Please sell our stock Right away. No, of course not.  It's too early to tell because literally it is too early to tell. Maybe this will all be resolved by the end of june Who knows it's not impossible. It may not be likely, but it's not impossible So yeah, you want to put as much of a positive spin on it as you can The fact that fox con according to the south china morning post sources Anyway, is is shutting down a couple production lines Is not unexpected, but it is a sign that those orders are the problem Remember we talked about how huawei says they're they're stock piled with parts. It's not through lack of parts Uh, it's that order reductions are happening because Certain retailers are probably like, you know what we still we feel uncertain about where this line of phones is going And that's what I think the real damage to huawei is going to be not whether they can actually figure out how to build phones But whether the marketplace dries up just because of the uncertainty At least outside of china Sources tell the washington post that the us federal trade commission and the us department of justice have agreed to divide their focused On amazon and google often a step taken preparatory to antitrust investigations Might have seen something in the news about this this morning The two agencies agreed to give the ftc more jurisdiction over amazon and the doj more jurisdiction over google Reuters says that its sources say the doj got jurisdiction for apple as well with the ftc getting jurisdiction for facebook They got a little bit of attention because this news dropped right around the time that the w w dc keynote started But uh, as you mentioned before the show tom, this is this is not unexpected No, and the washington post I have some suspicions about why this news dropped when it did Uh, it may be an attempt to hide it by putting it during w w dc Even though it had a negative reaction on the stock stock often goes down on the news anyway So you can't tell is it because they made announcements or is it because of this Because the washington post had the amazon and google thing this weekend. That was known on sunday, right? And then reuters today added in apple and facebook And the fact that facebook is part of this is getting lost a lot too because everyone who is paying attention to it Is focusing on apple Stock stock took a hit though. So it wasn't it was supposed to be buried I mean it was it was not buried by all well, but stock always takes a hit on the announcement you sell on the news So it's clear by that too I I don't know. It's interesting and like you say it's not unexpected because uh, we've known There's been a lot of pressure to investigate these companies and this isn't even a rumor of an investigation This is this is a source saying they've divided up the jurisdiction to make it easier to start looking into the possibility of an investigation So we're we're several steps down the road from certainly any kind of actual action. That's not going to happen for a while. Yeah oppo posted a video to weibo and twitter showing a notchless phone Notchless phone no cut out no notch nothing with a front-facing camera under the screen oppo vp brian shen noted that at this stage in development There would be some loss in optical quality, but he says it's early days Just concept. We're working towards making this better hours later Xiaomi's president lin bin posted a video on weibo of the xiaomi me nine With a prototype front-facing camera behind the screen as well. So again, these are these are all prototypes But uh, it certainly is something where people really just don't like cutouts and punch holes and notches Especially notches. So if you could make a viable front-facing camera that leaves the screen fully intact I think you'd have some people's attention I I've said this before on the show. I I'm not totally sure where the notch hate comes from Yeah, it it does Make it slightly less uniform But uh, but but but yeah, it's it's not something that would would preclude me from buying any phone that I thought was awesome Otherwise, uh, you know a kind of a meta story here. We got samsung announcing laptops We got lg announcing a tv. We got google announcing a stadia announcement We got oppo and xiaomi talking about phone features In the past wwdc would have been a no-go zone for any kind of announcement It is interesting to see companies no longer fearing news of a positive nature coming out When they might otherwise be swamped by wwdc announcements Yeah, you know, that's interesting I thought that I thought the same thing too and especially when we were when well when some of us anyway We're watching the keynote because there are a lot of dad jokes going on and you know We'll get into all all the specs in in just a in just a second But they you know, there are I think more than ever. This is the sort of announcement that Maybe one would have hate watched back in the day because you're like, uh apple, you know, the worst But like, you know, this is this is the big news and it's no longer the case There are so there's so much other news there are so many other good competitors of people making good Products and what whatever your ecosystem is is more of a personal choice than ever and and and maybe less of a You know apple dominating the new cycle Yeah, and lg's 8k tv makes that new apple display look cheap All right, let's uh get uh all the tech headlines whenever you want in about five minutes If you don't have time for the full show subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com Oh boy, we got lots to talk about here and uh, we're we're not going to mention everything they announced Apple really packed it in in their two hours and 15 minutes Moving swiftly Because it's their language get it Through a bunch of things we're going to start with ios 13. We'll talk about ipad os Mac os catalena then we'll get into the hardware the mac pro the pro display x dr Touch on apple watch apple tv air pods Etc Let's start with ios 13 Apps are going to be 50 smaller updates 60 smaller face id 30 faster A quick path a swipe keyboard Just like swipe years later. It's now available as part of ios Reminders app with up to two times faster app launches 30 faster face id also applies to signing in with face id apple will now debut sign in with apple A button for apps that masks your personal info By allowing you to give an email address with it or saying no don't give them my email address They'll create a throwaway email address that will redirect to your real email address So that that company never actually has a real email address And when you want to get rid of them you can get rid of just them without having to change your whole email address In ios 13 i message now supports profile photos including new moji which have personalized Makeup and accessories Memojis can be turned into stickers apple bringing 100 000 plus live radio stations Accessible by siri ios 13 will give siri a more natural sounding voice Enabling multi-step custom voice commands and shortcuts quick responses to sms over your airpods So you can just say oh tell her i'll be there soon and the message will get sent in response Not just to messages but also to any other messaging app that includes siri kit apple says ios 13 I'll let users grant apps access to their phones location just once So that you don't have to choose only when the app is on or or never And apple is redesigning carplay to let multiple apps be put side by side And the ability for siri to provide on-screen app suggestions. Basically the carplay dashboard gets a lot less Cluttered that's the top line stuff sarah.  What do you like the most? Well, you know for the first, I don't know Let's say 45 minutes of the announcement I was like, okay, so this is the privacy announcement. Everything was about hey, there's a new app And your privacy is of our utmost concern unlike our competitors. Yeah, there was there was a women's cycle app that uh as juanister and of the welsey journal pointed out She's you tested many others that that have been funneling data to various companies facebook being one of them and apple saying We're gonna do the same thing But we're not gonna you know, we will not compromise your privacy and that was Uh, there's something that was being hammered home So much at it's certainly In the first hour of of the announcement Super into the carplay stuff Anything that can make siri easier when i'm in my car because i'm using carplay with my iphone is great Uh, a lot of good, uh watch os announcements. I don't even have an apple watch, but uh For the first time i kind of wanted one more than ever because it's it's it's such a standalone device now, uh, whereas in the past it wasn't and And yeah, you know stuff like dark mode. I don't know it it is not something that I was Really, uh ramped up about before W to W w dc started even though it was rumored to happen And so it wasn't a big surprise and to see some of the screenshots were were nice and everything But got a lot of applause. I mean there are there are folks who who who really do care about that and overall, I think uh ipad os being broken out after apple for so many years Was was really drilling into developers, you know universal apps We're gonna make it easier to make universal apps. You don't have to run iphone apps on ipad You know, you can you can make them beautifully native depending on what device you're using the fact that ipad is now its own thing is Was a bit of a surprise So yeah focusing on ios 13 Wi-Fi selection in the control center seemed to be a big hit And the low data mode which was kind of a throwaway announcement There's also a new portrait lighting effects the ability to rotate a video when you're editing not just rotate a still image Home kit getting secure video that analyzes it on Your local machine and then encrypts and uploads it to the cloud Links the zero in spectrum now supporting home kits so you can firewall off accessories That's all the ios 13 stuff there. You mentioned ipad os uh ipad os Really always existed. Uh the ios version that runs on the ipad has always been different They just didn't acknowledge that it was different and now they've given it a name But there's also more differences. So I think that makes sense for them to give it a new name There's new home screen widgets now, uh, which we've never had on any version of ios before Uh an improved files app with a finder like column view More multitasking gestures and the ability to have multiple versions of the same app running So they showed two word on ipad Apps running at the same time desktop view on the web So on in safari, uh, you'll get the desktop version Which is more appropriate to the size of your screen possibly than the mobile version Which is a little outsized on an ipad screen And a big one for me sarah thumb drive support the ability to plug at least if you've got a usbc Uh ipad, uh, just talk a thumb drive, uh right into the ipad. It'll even support sd card slots with dongles and adapters as well Well, I think the for a few years now apple has has really been They they want the with the introduction of ipad pro and just the fact that ipad has has has made some advancements This is a work tool. Yeah, you can use it to to play with apps or read things and that's all fine too But this is this is a tool for work that will rival your desktop your laptop Anything that is it is an ipad alternative more than ever So the fact that yeah thumb drives are supported now, uh that that the ipad apps you can you know have have multi View screens and all of the things that that that were laid out Make perfect sense and I think we're a long time coming and Yeah, I mean it it is not the same thing as having an iphone anymore. That's just a bigger screen Yeah, I particularly liked the idea Uh that you can now drag a cursor around without the magnifying glass You can just select where you want the cursor to go and it'll go there No long taps short taps anything Three finger pinch to copy three fingers spread to paste three fingers swipe to undo You'd still shake to undo if you want but you don't have to however That seemed to be the point of the demo where things didn't go as well as they should have So i'm wondering how well it really works in practice Yeah, there were there were a few And any keynote is going to have a few sort of roles But there were there were a few times where you're kind of like, um, yeah, they They're really kind of muddling through this and the the crowd is sort of not clapping when they're hoping that people will clap and A little cringe worthy moments, but overall I think ipad os looks Extremely promising and I haven't used an ipad regularly I've got an old one in a drawer right here, but in in some time and I always say it's because when the iphone Six plus came out then the screen was big enough so that I didn't really need an ipad anymore I now I'm starting to feel like no the productivity part of the ipad Is something that I've I've I've kind of been out I've been out of for a few years and might be interested in getting back into it All right, we got so much to get to we let's go to mac os catalina The big news there the breakup of itunes now I want to put this real clear because I had questions from Steven schleicher at major spoilers My friend mark jergenau who teaches high school in greenville, illinois Creative vast arts in our discord all wondering like how does this affect my content as far as we know it doesn't And this is apple's fault for branding everything itunes But anything you bought through itunes is either on your hard drive So it's always good to just download everything or available in the cloud If you've bought it after they started doing the the matching in the cloud and the fact that you access it through itunes Doesn't change that it doesn't remove it from the directories on your hard drive It doesn't remove it from the cloud In fact itunes will still be around in older versions of mac os They didn't even mention what's happening to it on windows. So apparently it's for now going to stick around on windows They're not getting rid of any of the things Associated or accessed with itunes all they're doing is splitting it up into three mac os pieces of software on mac os catalina So it's a very limited range of effect apple music Will handle all your music and it's got a sidebar So it looks like it does all the same things that itunes does it just does it in the apple music app And sync has been moved to a sidebar in finder. So that is the one big change sync It goes from itunes to the finder in mac os catalina podcasts Uses machine learning to index and find content But otherwise it's just all the things you would do with podcasts and itunes now in a podcast app and the tv app Coming to mac os just like it has come to ios and apple tv No sidebar in the apple tv app Category stuff is up top like it is on the tv app on your apple tv sports 4k hdr playback with hdr 10 and dolby vision and dolby atmos hdr 10 dolby vision dolby atmos So let me say that again And then sidecar iPad is a second display for mac everybody was wanting this you can use an iPad with an apple pencil as a tablet input We're going to talk to scott johnson a lot about this on wednesday Accessibility voice control has been expanded for the mac So you can just give rich dictation and editing comprehensive navigation ios attention awareness In the demonstration when he looked at his iphone the iphone knew he was looking at it and meant The command for it not mac os There's the combination of find my iphone with find my uh with find my friends Now as find my which includes your iphone your friends and your laptop I can locate apple devices offline with a nifty bit of bluetooth Sends out a secure beacon that can be relayed by other devices without them ever knowing what it is It's ended and encrypted. Uh, so it can eventually bounce over to you. We'll see how well that works, but that's interesting Uh, there's activation lock now on mac os if you have a t2 security chip Photos has the new browsing view and screen time the app coming to mac And of course they mentioned project catalyst which everybody had been calling marzipan But it's the ability to check a box in xcode to say hey make this ios or ipad app into a mac os app And then you get all of your fundamental features as a developer and then just add the things you want to customize it for the mac Well, uh, can we put a fork in itunes and say it's finally done at least on macOS? Catalina, yeah, I know. I I love yeah, I did a couple people on on Who's whose twitter streams? I follow this morning. We're like well, but so itunes still lives on Other os's for example windows, but this is a step in the the step in the right direction And I also I I found it kind of they were being kind of cheeky about yeah We know itunes has been weirdly named and there's too much stuff in there and it has been this way for a long time One of the one of the the big applause was the idea of like when you plug your iphone into your mac What's gonna happen now?  Which is which is it's a real world annoyance that kept me from doing that all the time Because it was just gonna launch a bunch of itunes stuff and I you know, I'd have to Deal with that for I don't know 60 seconds or less I thought that the accessibility for mac was at least the the the demo that we saw was Really interesting Seemed to work really well We are definitely getting to a point where voice dictation is going to be a bigger part of our lives more than ever certainly on mac os And to find my stuff it had been rumored. I I think it makes perfect sense to to to bundle all of this into one app Particularly because so many of us I mean, how often are you using find my iphone? Not that often hopefully hopefully never But if you have to it it makes sense to bundle this into a location app for lots of different things Yeah, my guess is down the road. We're gonna hear an off An off announcement in other words not one on stage That a music app and a tv app are coming to windows. There's already a music app available for android So so why wouldn't you yeah, it makes sense that this would just not be something that I mean, it was a jam-packed keynote. Yeah, you get to the windows stuff later Uh apple also unveiled the new mac pro which has the old cheese grater design Well, kind of it's a it's a new take on the old cheese grater design eight pc ie slots Uh, you can configure it for up to one and a half terabytes of system memory Up to 28 cores of intel z on cpu up to four amd gpus Coming this fall for six thousand dollars. Oh, yeah more than that, but it's very affordable Um, this this is a beast though. It can handle three streams of eight k pro res 12 streams of 4k They made a big deal about how you don't have to convert your 8k you can just put it on this machine and start editing it Yeah, this is the mac pro for for years now way out of my price range and and and out of Anything that i'm able to do i can't even make use of of the performance aspects but Hearing the specs laid out And knowing that the price again is is totally beyond my reach. I still wish I had a good reason to put it to the test Now, uh, prototude says you aren't getting a beast for six thousand dollars eight core z on 32 gigabytes of memory Radeon 5 80 x and 256 solid state drive. This is kind of a beast beastly it may not be But uh, you know, it's definitely beastly. Yeah Uh, there's a bunch of other stuff going now two thunderbolt ports on top two ethernet ports Uh, the big deal is you can slide off any side of this thing to access the modules inside A bunch of pc i e slots like I said, which is great The one I don't think is going to go down as well as apple would want it to is the fact that it is modular For the graphics card and the graphics cards right now are up to Two radion pro vega twos now you can have two modules so you essentially can have four radion pro vega twos Uh, and and something they call infinity fabric link provides data five times faster than the pc i bus between them But I think a lot of people just wanted the ability to put whatever graphics card they wanted me Yeah, and I will add that the infinity fabric is an amd technology that they use for the ryzen uh processors What's what's fascinating is now they're they've gotten back to targeting the workstation Which is something kind of fell off the wagon. It's like well, you know People need a much power and and frankly it cost them an arm and a leg to support it And they I for some time it just seemed like they didn't want to put their energies there But I mean it's a very interesting design. I don't know if they'll take off as well as the last Uh mac pro That came up but time will tell yeah And to do that 8k video by the way, you will need the afterburner card With which is a hardware fpga asic. Uh, it can do 6 billion pixels per second. It's a co-processor It's a co-processor that gpu makers have been trying to Say hey buy our video cards because they can you can offload the rendering to You know with kuda on n video or uh open uh open cu compute With open gl on amd cards There will be a rack mount version available and it comes with a handle Uh, they announced it alongside the pro display x dr x dr stands for extreme dynamic range Which is what they call their version of hdr because it is hdr or the horrible hdr It's a 32 inch lcd 60 16 by 32 84 so a 6k retina display um, you know great color Real lattice is a heat sink So that says they let them they say that lets them do a thousand nits at full screen brightness indefinitely And 1600 nits peak Thunderbolt 3 can support a two display setup. So if you have a mac pro You can potentially power six of these at once It can tilt and adjust height and do portrait mode if you get the stand Which cost you an extra 999 dollars the the pro display x dr is 4999 dollars 5999 dollars if you want the matte version, which is a nano texture etched glass thing You can get a visa adapter for 199 bucks or that pro stand for 999 bucks Man, I wanted this I wanted this I did and I knew as they were as they were laying it out and showing how beautiful it was in the craftsmanship And you've never seen a hinge that worked this well. I was like this is going to be a macro price And it was for five grand not happening. I also don't need a 32 inch monitor I've got a 28 inch asus monitor right now that seems very big to me and is lovely But it's it's it's the kind of thing that I covet I covet it anyway It's uh, I will say for If it's true that it's pro spec and it's calibrated out of the factory and it does cover The gamut that it supposedly covers Um, that's actually not too bad five grand Now the fact that they charge you a thousand bucks for the stand seems a ludicrous and the vise and the vesa adapter Which is like 200 250 bucks should just throw that in there because you buy a 30 dollar stand off amazon works just as well um, but I will say Uh, of all the hardware announces. This is the one that that interested me the most Yeah, and this is studio level stuff. This really isn't meant for the consumer Which like roger said earlier that's that's a change back for apple into focusing on this kind of hardware So when you look at these prices, you do have to realize like these are meant for companies that are used to spending a lot of money On this kind of equipment uh real quickly before we wrap up. We mentioned some things about apple watch We didn't mention the independent apps that can now run on the watch without the need for a phone in the new watch os And the app store on the watch where you can just get an app straight from the watch without having to download it On the phone first and then move it over some other things like activity trends improvements to The the health app a calculator got a lot of applause A decibel meter to let you know if things are too loud which actually went off when people were applauding about the decibel meter and the calculator um So that's interesting apple tv gave us a finally a sneak peek at one of their shows Ron Moore's show for all mankind Which is an alternate history where the soviets win the space race and the space race doesn't end because of that Has a redesigned home screen with full screen preview behind icons And people don't usually like full screen previews. So we'll see how well that goes over But the big one for me is multi user support and personalized up next lists So now you can have your own profile if you share your apple tv with someone else in your family And when you're on your profile your up next list will be up there. It won't be mixed with anybody else's Uh, and that includes a new control center for tv. Oh, so we can switch between those profiles And I know a big one for a lot of people was the announcement of compatibility with the apple tv For xbox 1s and playstation dual shock controllers That's going to be a big deal when uh, uh apple arcade finally launches later this year Anything else here that you guys want to mention before you don't want to talk about the karaoke feature tom Ah, yes the karaoke feature for apple music on the apple tv Yeah, our new team building exercises will be yeah a lot of aim We'll we'll show you the lyrics to your favorite songs along with you listening to your song There are certain things where I mean put emojis in there as well where I'm like I just don't use this feature But I get where the advancement is coming from uh as far as The multi-user support. I mean I live alone. My dog doesn't have his own apple ID, but I do get how how entirely convenient that would that would come in handy especially because apple wants They they they want folks to to use the apple tv interface as As as as their their whole media center. So and and we all have our own our own preferences. So Yeah, I mean that kind of went by quick I feel like in the whole announcement some of the apple tv stuff sort of It got a little bit lost in the fray, but but good stuff Yeah, open bayou asked if we mentioned the uh login uh with apple. Uh, we did uh, there's so much stuff here But I have to have to say I I'm glad he reminded us of it again Because I think that may be one of the most significant announcement software wise anyway Uh of this entire thing. I don't know whether it'll catch on But you know apple trying to build its reputation on privacy and security That could turn out to be a handy thing for a lot of people knowing that That that weird thing where you can say like don't give my email address. I just think that's brilliant You can you can do that in other ways, but this makes it really easy It has to be embraced by developers obviously which kind of uh Walks us into some some of the announcements that got a lot of applause from developers as well With with where apple wants to go with with creating apps themselves. Yeah Well, uh, thanks for being with us folks Yes, thank you We couldn't get to everything. We'll be talking about this more later in the week But thanks to everybody who participates in our subreddit. There were lots of apple stories today Unsurprisingly you guys are the best submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com We will read them. 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