Hello everyone. This is our video Patrick Beja is here early in the morning So how's how's my hair? How's looking good man looking all right? You're you're the rising sunshine of Japan Am I now yeah It's actually it's actually pretty nice weather here today. Good Hey, I plugged Philius Club for you yesterday Because we touched on our main topic was the was the element of the French labor law that Reveals email and having listened to Philius Club I was well aware of how controversial the rest of that law is that I tried very Considuously to say we're not judging the rest of the law good or ill Yeah, I heard I heard it was it was very well done But thank you, I mean thank you for doing the Philius Club because I probably would not have been as nearly as as well aware of that It's still going on to stuff. Yeah. Yeah It's it's pretty insane honestly. Sometimes I'm like I mean Yeah, let's not get into that For once again folks if you'd like to hear more check out the Right, let's get this party started Can't believe I actually said oh wow, it's time already. Okay. All right ready. I was born ready Without advertising your radio station would sound like this Without your support on patreon.com the Daily Tech news show would sound like this We thank you for your support Daily tech news show comm forward slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Tuesday May 17 2016. I'm Tom married joining me today from Japan in fact, we're recording to show a couple hours later if you're wondering why it showed up in your feet later Mr. Patrick Beja We tried not to get you out of bed so early in the morning this time And I'm thankful because they allowed me to have this Fabulous hair today because I got up late enough that I could make it fabulous for you audio listeners He's got a bouffant hairdo. It's to die for Thank you for doing this Tom, it's not about the hair it's really about sleeping and I appreciate it Yes, sleep is very important in fact It was a it was a weird confluence of events where you were able to get me early in the morning for me With today's topic right before you went to bed So it's kind of yeah worked out weird time zone sort of thing But we're gonna talk about the new Nvidia graphics cards We're not PC perspective So we're not gonna go deep into FinFET or any of that stuff But we are gonna talk about some of the cool things that we think they may make possible and the interesting release schedule behind them But let's start off with the headlines Backchannel.com reports on auto a start-up founded by Anthony Leventowski Who is the guy who built Google's first self-driving car he and three other ex Google engineers have created auto as of January? It sounds like company has bought and retrofitted three Volvo truck cabs You know those big tractor trailer trucks the cabs to just the part that pulls the trailer they got three of those and they've equipped them with LiDAR radar and cameras and Tested them on the roads in Nevada In fact even for a few miles with no human occupant auto plans to sell after-market Self-driving kits at a fraction of the cost of a new cab Initially the tech will only work on highways from exit to exit But they think they can actually get the ability for drivers to be in their trucks for 24 hours that way Because they won't be driving that wouldn't be subject to the 11-hour limit But so that specific one is interesting because they're not subject to the 11-hour limit But are they gonna be aware awake and very aware for 24 hours? They don't have to be that's the point these things can self-drive on the highways if they're not getting off the highway Then the truck can just roll along while they sleep So they're sleeping when they're on the highway and then they take back over. Yeah All right, we'll have to see more tests I guess but It's an interesting approach because there are other there are a lot of other companies doing this for trucks that you probably haven't heard about Some of them Maybe you have you there was a famous test down in Florida not too long ago where they were doing a convoy Where they they were playing follow the leader where the trucks were all self-driving behind the main truck Which had a human operator but back channel says now We want to really focus on one truck at a time because we believe That's where the majority of cases will happen at first. They said eventually we we might do other things as well But exit to exit one truck at a time is gonna have the most impact for truck drivers And retrofitting everything into an existing device device. I guess now cars are devices now, right? But it reminds me of what George Hots is doing his hacking together some interestingly cheap Systems to get cars to self-drive. Well, yeah, it's pretty cool Sources tell the New York Times that a committee associated with the cyberspace Administration of China has been reviewing encryption and data storage on products from foreign companies for the past few months executives or employees of foreign tech companies supposedly must answer questions about the product in person the cyberspace administration told the Times that the inspections did not target any particular product or country Not any particular one it was just three or four. No, I joke I kid Apple has said publicly in front of Congress that China has asked to view their source code and they've said no But it sounds like what's happening here is just questioning about how does your product work? What's its encryption? It's information gathering it is I am convinced about privacy It is it not in not exclusively about privacy mind you But it is in part about the same things that we're concerned with anywhere in the world Which is okay, how strong is this encryption? Can it actually protect data? How do you use the data you collect company? Microsoft Apple etc. How do you use that information? Where do you store it? What permissions do do people know? They are giving you I think that's part of this, but it is also about protecting China's domestic market and About security and surveillance as well. I can't I can't imagine. It's not about all of those things Yeah, it's I mean catch remember what Apple said exactly, but they mentioned a timeframe or product line that didn't include the latest things or something like that, but This has been happening for a few months. It's Hmm it is definitely part of that whole conversation and then it becomes interesting for the big problem here I guess there are two problems. First of all it sums the one side of the argument is gonna say well look look at that You're caving to you know the Chinese government. That's so hypocritical because you're trying not to you're saying that you don't want to you know You don't want to compromise your users privacy, but look at this be just for the money You're going to China and you're doing it and the other thing is well, you know if China is doing it Why don't you why don't you want to do it here in the US or Europe as well? And then my response is we shouldn't model our laws on China, but yeah Well, we do it. That's the other thing is lots of countries do this exact kind of thing But it is generally only done for military or government purchases the difference here At least according to the New York Times is that China seems to be doing this for consumer models of things as well Which again if they're going after consumer privacy makes sense But it also allows them to look at consumer goods and for other reasons possibly in addition BitTorrent announced BitTorrent live which uses peer-to-peer to deliver live streaming video with what they say is less than 10 second lag It has 13 free channels to launch including live sports news film and tech in fact Twit is one of the channels at launch Subscription ad supported and pay-per-view networks are planned for the future as well You can sign up to get an email when the service becomes available at bit torrent comm We'll have a link to their blog post about it in our show notes a daily tech news show It seems like they were doing this a while ago, and they abandoned it. Is that am I miss remembering it? They we definitely heard them talking about testing it They would they'd never abandoned it I think what happened is it took a little longer to get it launched than we expected But yeah, they've they've been testing this for a few years now Yeah, it's it's a really cool piece of technology because people don't realize how Difficult and expensive it is to stream video, you know people are used to YouTube and they think that is kind of Okay now that it's easy to do but it's but you know, I was talking to Shannon Morse in Koto actually a couple of days ago. She's she's traveling here from hack 5 and We discussed the video streaming. They're still doing hack 5 available on iTunes as a podcast a video podcast, and I'm guessing it a significant part of their Bandwidth costs are you know of their costs are the bandwidth for video. This Could alleviate that issue and it could allow for many people to stream video products and you know create video podcasts without having to rely on YouTube to To to broadcast them which again, you know makes it difficult to even call them a podcast if you're curious because well Yeah, suddenly storage space and bandwidth Are no longer things that you have to account for in this kind of situation. I think that's that's very attractive So this is yours. Sorry Yeah, I was gonna go there and then yeah sound hound sound sound hound even it's a it's a sound hound The app that can identify music can now be controlled by your voice hound if I that name really Anyways hound if I is a virtual assistant in the sound cloud app that can play music from Spotify Pandora Apple music and others you can also ask it to add songs to your Spotify playlist and play music videos through YouTube You can play music trivia with it as well You know I always forget about sound hound I always go to Shazam and I wonder if that's because sound hound sounds like sound cloud And there's only room for one of those cognates in my brain or something But I've forgotten that they had released hound which was their own virtual assistant and a lot of people praised it And then a lot of people forgot about it but this is why they released it I think is that they were developing this kind of AI to put in here and the The fact that it can go launch music from these multiple services for you is pretty pretty cool now You have to say okay hound if I anytime you want to start it which I know for Patrick will be an impediment And and you have to have the app loaded it won't won't be able to launch just from a cold start You have to launch the app and then you can talk to it Yeah, it's I don't know if we need a specific sound music related virtual assistant You know I'm reminded of what the founders of Viv who are the founders of Siri originally we're saying which is when you have multiple virtual assistants it kind of defeats the purpose and now everyone's getting their own and Not only do you have to deal with you know apples and googles and Amazons and Microsoft's virtual assistants which are all different if you also have to have a specific virtual assistant for your music and one for your movies and one for I think that's going to be a big impediment to you know more than this the name which already is kind of a problem I think well and I think probably what sound hound is hoping is You will realize that their tailored music service is better at doing what you want than others and start using it that way But it won't try to become a Generalized virtual assistant and maybe someone will come along like Viv and buy them and incorporate them You know because that's what Viv wants Viv wants companies like sound hound to put this into their apps And I think that is a better solution to have a few choices of personal assistant that then work everywhere You need it to rather than having different ones everywhere Right, right though. Viv has APIs to plug other services into their own assistant I don't think they these other services need to develop their own if I have If I have say Shazam open and I can just say hey Viv play me my Spotify playlist without You know having to do anything else. That's great I guess what you're saying is if it works properly It's always on whether you have any particular app open or not. So that makes sense. Yeah, Google announced Shopping ads in image search results are coming Monday. They announced it on Monday I don't know when they're coming in a blog post to clients Google said their ads could appear at the related image search results Google also introduced local inventory ads a feature that makes a local advertiser stores inventory searchable via the local knowledge panel and store pickup link Which allows advertisers to offer customers the option to buy online and then pick up in store through a Google hosted local product page Yeah, the idea of you know the jewelry store having the ability to buy the necklace you're looking at as you're searching through images certainly is appealing and I like love the idea of looking through store inventory to see like oh could I go pick that up available? But yes that store pickup link being right there is crucial That's the thing that I'm most excited about as a consumer is can I find something in image search and go? Yes, that's exactly the thing I want. Oh, it's available a few You know a mile away. Can I pick it up? Yes, I can I'll drop you over there and get it right now Yeah, I'm so when they I read this announcement. I was kind of surprised that there wasn't already ads in image search I don't think I've ever seen them now that I think of it. So there mustn't have been But I'm wondering how many people are going to go search for products on image search specifically Maybe once you know this is available you will but I'm not sure that people go look for stuff to buy on image search I think it's and I think you're right. I think what happens is ooh I want I heard about this cool pair of shoes. I go to image search.  I could buy them right now I think that's sort of what Google's after So for stuff that you like not for you know Computer components, which is what I go to. Well, I don't go to image search for that either So but yeah, it does make sense for stuff that you want to see how they look Yeah, for me the I'll be honest the thing I use image search the most for is I see an actor's name in an Announcement of a new TV show or movie and I go who is that and then I looked at that person Got it. Yeah. Yeah And if you want to buy that person that your local store now, you can Google's ways is testing. Is that the right one? Yes Is testing a carpool service with employees of adobe and Google in San Francisco and the area The service pairs people based on their home address and work address and ideal departure times It's only available during morning and evening commutes and riders only exchange money for gas Ways took a 15% cut in a similar pilot program in Israel But will not be taking anything for the California test So this is actual ride-sharing right where you only cover the gas cost Kind of smart for ways who has all of this data to say, hey, let's let's let's actually make a ride-sharing service Were this to catch on though? What kind of resistance do you think it could run into? It's the kind of thing that I don't think would have run into a lot of resistance a long time ago There was there's a robust carpooling service that is actually run by Bay Area Transit right now But because of uber and all of its difficulties, I feel like this could run into trouble, maybe Yeah, this would be a lot more difficult to Blame about or even strike down legally I think this is absolutely the kind of way these services Have had been envisioned in the past and are being you know utilized best. There are a couple of Companies that do this kind of thing specifically not the uber type of ride-sharing but the actual type of ride-sharing I think does blah blah car in in France does do that Well, and actually has carpooling as a feature and in some way as well Yeah, of course, but that's you know, so yeah, basically I don't think this is the kind of thing that people could I'm sure taxi drivers could complain about it I don't think they're they're going to and I don't think they would get traction For that kind of service IBM has increased capacity of phase change memory or PCM Which is a potential replacement for not only flash memory, but also RAM PCM is used in optical discs It uses high current to change the phase in a crystalline cell that can then be read back at low current IBM has found a way to save three bits of data per cell By actually tracking the variations caused by heating that you are used they used to limit liability Readability it used to be like yourself can only do a zero or one Because all these variations would happen and you couldn't really store more than three bits Well now or more than the one bit now IBM can store three bits This could bring the cost of PCM down below DRAM could bring it close to the cost of flash And it's already faster than flash PCM can read data in less than a microsecond compared to the 70 microseconds It takes for flash not as fast as RAM, but in certain situations it might be able to be close enough to take on some of the RAM duties, so Again, there's also memristors and all kinds of other competitors for what's going to be our next memory, but pretty intriguing I always get a little bit giddy with you know Storage news for some reason. It's always exciting. So that's the idea I know it probably won't happen, but the idea that RAM and and storage would converge in one technology is pretty fascinating to me, too Yeah, yeah for sure HP showed off two new 3d printers that they promise are 10 times faster than competitors and At 340 million voxels per second and are cheaper to run to the new 3d printers use multi jet fusion Which sounds awesome awesome and also puts down a thin layer of powder and then uses thermal inkjet array To add a chemical agent that fuses the material, but it can only print the in monochrome thermal plastic for now the jet fusion 3d 3200 which is meant for prototyping will cost I'm just I just want you to prepare yourself for it. Yeah, I'll get one. How much a hundred and thirty thousand dollars, I'm not gonna get one next year and The jet fusion 4d a 3d still 3d for now 4200 has no price or availability, but it is targeted towards small production runs So this is this whole thing is still relatively expensive and you know, it feels like 3d printing was bigger in the future in the past than it is now It's kind of it seems like it would become bigger a couple of years ago And it hasn't become very big and and it's almost It hurts me to say this but I'm wondering if it isn't gonna go away and we're not getting to a point where 3d printers are gonna be really cheap and in every home and allow you to print that little, you know Peace you need to repair your washing machine. First of all 3d printers are getting cheaper Don't let these prices sway you from that this these are meant for industrial production second of all computers are taking off or 3d printers are taking off much faster in Production then I think people expected that they aren't taking off in the home as fast as people expected But I think that's very similar to computers in the 80s We had the Vic 20 and the Commodore 64 and as I oh computers for everyone and then there was a lull and People like I guess computers really aren't gonna like change homes. Well, not you know, not many people have them And they're but they're great for business and all through the 90s It was like let's develop come desktop computers for business for business reasons I don't know what whether we need an internet moment for 3d printers or what but but yeah, I'm I'm still think We're a ways away from 3d printers everywhere, but it will happen and and if we remember computers didn't happen as fast as Maybe people expected back in the late 70s and early 80s I think actually there is this phenomenon happening for every kind of technology You're right and I can't remember if there's actually a name for it. Maybe someone in the audience will will let us know in by email, but Super enthusiastic geeks like us look at the piece of technology and think oh, this is gonna be awesome It's gonna change everything and then it takes a lot longer for the real world to catch up to that kind of thing for a number of Reasons, you know production and scale and all of it. So yeah, maybe we're still there for 3d printers. I I hope we're there and not in a state where they're not as exciting as we thought they were and these are Definitely meant for business For the fact that you can do one at 340 million voxels per second is pretty amazing That can't get you to production run speed and HP is betting a lot on People wanting this the fact that these are monochrome thermoplastic is a big disadvantage because there are other companies like I Think stradalysts that have multi-color production right now, but they're slower So if HP can convince another enough people like yeah, you don't care about colors any color you want as long as it's monochrome thermoplastic Then then maybe that will get them to the point where they and they say we do have Multi-color printers in the pipeline that we're going to come with and if suddenly now HP is putting out production run quality More than 340 million voxels per second and multicolor they could leap ahead of the pack Yeah Another advance is from Bell Labs on Monday. They announced they have achieved 10 gigabit per second symmetrical speeds over coax the In the lab with the XG cable technology it uses echo cancellation to achieve full duplex That's one of the problems with with cable is one of the reasons you always see Mike Well, I can get 300 down but only 60 up as they don't do full duplex all the time With a point to multi-point deployment Nokia Bell Labs results were nearly eight gigabits per second downstream and seven point five gigabits per second upstream out of the Lab you'd still have to use fiber to deploy it within 200 meters of the home to achieve those speeds And if you want the full 10 gigabits per second, it's gonna have to be within 100 meters of the home But it would integrate with dox is 3.1. So you wouldn't have to make everybody get new modems if you deployed it Yeah, this is again the kind of thing that is Super exciting for Internet deployment everywhere although the fact that you still need for those kinds of speeds Obviously, you still need fiber deployed. What is it like fiber to the last node fiber to the last something? It's one fiber the curb sometimes you hear called So it's still, you know, it's not like you can deploy it on existing crappy old networks everywhere But it's still it's still pretty good. I think a lot of cable ISPs are putting fiber into that part of the network already So for some it may not be that Yeah, yeah, it's just you know I think I would be even more excited if all of a sudden we could have you know a one gigabit connection But on copper wires, for example, that would be better. Yeah Icyte technologies has developed a gesture control that uses a phone's camera allowing touch-free input for things like gear VR and cardboard No mention of when it will come to phones though and gadget says Icyte is bringing its control scheme to phones with built-in 3d sensors Yeah, so the rear camera right so you've got the thing on your face With your Samsung phone or your iPhone in there And then you can you can actually interact with your hands because the camera that's pointing out from the back of your phone I mean it wouldn't work so well with cardboard, which you have to hold up to your face But tomorrow at Google IO I have a feeling we're going to hear about a new VR product From Google that you strap around your head. So there you go Yeah, also you have two hands so you can hold it with one and and you can interact with the other if you have two hands That's true, but still not as convenient, right? You want you want to do like games? We can true true But I guess for for cardboard your primary goal is price not convenience. So That crunch reports a jump in traffic to VPNs and unblockers from users in Vietnam seems to back up reports on Twitter that Facebook and Instagram were blocked this weekend in parts of Vietnam protests have been taking place over Environmental problems relating to a steel plant there. It seems to be the season Iraq shut down the internet for a few hours each morning Saturday through Monday during student exams And they did the same thing last student exams according to the Verge and Uganda blocked access to social media last Thursday While president Mussolini was taking the oath of office It was his fifth term as president and so there were some people upset about that So it's you know, we we don't talk about every single block of everything that happens But there were three of them happen in quick succession Which is probably a representation by us on my part, but it does feel like maybe they're happening more than they used to Maybe not to make light of these kinds of issues which are very important But I always like to imagine those moments with someone in a big office with a white cat that they're you know Stroking with a button and and them declaring turn off the internet And then they push the button for an hour or something. Yeah Just flick it off when you're done swearing in on your way out. Mr. President. Could you just flick the internet back on? Thanks? That's terrible TV Z gone in our chat room by the way points out that fiber links to nodes have been Available in some cable companies for decades. It's called hybrid fiber coax Yeah, we've had it in France for a while Thanks to everyone who submitted things that we used or even things that just enlightened us on our subreddit Submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com We got things from SP Sheridan drew CPU Captain Kipper Skyboard 13 Master DAC See pictor and more be one of them or be a voter and be like, you know what I voted for that story That's what's on the show daily tech news show dot reddit.com and that is a look at the headlines All right, so the the g-force GTX 1080 from Nvidia is launching May 27th and the GTX 10 70 is Launching June 10th now there is a price difference here In video only selling the founders edition for 699 dollars if you get it from someone else you can get the non founders edition for $599 the specs are the same there's some differences in Presentation in the vapor cooling chamber, etc. The 1070 is only 379 dollars and Patrick you were saying that's not nearly as staggered as they usually make the 70 and 80 models Yeah, the prices might be a little bit higher the 80 series is usually the they call that segment the Enthusiast segment. I think Roger would have another name for that It might be the insanely rich people and I would subscribe to that description but the the 70 series are something that it's definitely not Cheap, but it's something that more gamers look to as their series of choice and the interesting thing here is that they usually Stagger the releases of those two different segments of cards by months, you know They put out the 1080 first and chase the people who really want to get the latest thing And so they have to pay a little bit more and then you know three four months later They'll release the 70 series as an atom more, you know still outrageous, but more reasonable price this time they're releasing both as you mentioned within a couple of weeks and I think Combined with the performance of the cards. This is a very clever move to get people to adopt that new Series that new technology of the GPUs and one of the big reasons people want to take the jump I mean there are you know 30 to 60 percent performance increases over previous cards depending on what you're looking at whether it's the 980 Ti or the 980 and that's normal You'll you'll have all the various reviews that came out today out of NDA arguing like but how normal is it? And is it really worth the upgrade? That's the same thing as usual, right if you have a perfectly working video card Don't pull it out rip it out and throw it away for this one But if it's time for an upgrade then yeah now these new cards are there they do VR very well And they do support VR at higher resolutions than I think even the 970 or the 980 can do Yeah, so okay for performance. I think yes It is not going to suddenly make your your machine, you know three times as powerful It's not this kind of miracle card It does seem however that even performance wise we're at a point in the GPU cycle where this jump is more Significant than previous jumps not again not by double but more the previous Most powerful card on the market was called the Titan X and that card costs about a thousand bucks it was an Nvidia card as well and Both of these cards although we have more details on the 1080 than on the 1070 both of these cards are more powerful Than that Titan X maybe not by a lot in case of the 1070 I think it's probably gonna be you know a very small margin But still it's gonna be a third of the price that Titan X was or you know less than half at least So it is probably a good Moment to upgrade if you're looking for an upgrade maybe not from the previous generation the the 900 series 980 970 might not see enough of a jump for you to invest that much money, but for If you skipped a generation of two, this is kind of the moment where you're thinking Yes, this this is probably gonna be worth it, especially the 1070 Card now about VR what they're doing is really interesting They have a new type of technology which is Hardware technology is not gonna be available on the other cards, but it allows them to take one 3d scene one 3d rendering, you know any anything a game any kind of 3d scene and render Multiple cameras multiple angle of visualization in a single pass Meaning it has lots of different applications But in a situation where you want to render two different images one for each eye or you know in the case of VR You might want to have You know for images per eye to sort of adapt to the Lenses that you use in VR You can do that in one pass these cards can render up to I think it's 16 different cameras in one pass and You know one pass means that you don't lose any Performance you don't take a performance hit at all For rendering VR, which is you know with VR being as popular as it is today a Significant increase in performance, especially when you realize that you really need the Frame rate to be very stable and very high if you don't want to be in a barf machine VR so and and and it may not make as much difference to the VR headsets coming out right this second Because the resolution for those in the frame rate for those isn't to where we would like them to be But this is definitely saying yes Well, you will be able to buy a computer that can handle a much improved headset in the future Yeah, I think there are ways of distorting the image just right to make it work with current VR headset even I we would need to confirm this this is still, you know New when they announced it's not so long ago But I'm wondering if it wouldn't be possible to implement this in current headset with some kind of software distortion of the images But yeah, it's also the stage in These GPU cycles where it seems like these cards are going to be a little bit more future proof than previous generations and of course every new generation improves performance and you know, you're going to take a Hit on the scale of performance if you're having the previous card but these ones seem like they would last a little bit longer than previous generations and So for all these reasons We have to wait and and hear what AMD is going to do because they have a new architecture coming and an announcement coming fairly soon, but usually they compete in the less power hungry And of the spectrum of cards even though these ones are less power hungry than the previous generation was from NVIDIA as well But we'll see what the market looks like maybe in a month or two But yeah, these ones seem like they're probably I would for for my money, which is not super expert, but you know enthusiast I would say this is probably the best version of the graphics card that we've seen In in a few years at least it's a it seems like a good deal Yeah, single 8 pin connector can pull 180 watts 980 ti does 250 watts So you are going to save some power there and of course it's got the Pascal architecture the 16 nanometer fin-fet 8 gigabyte gddr 5x it does have lower memory bandwidth than the night 80 ti 320 gigabytes per second versus 336, but they have some cool tricks with memory compression and color compression That that seemed to make up for that There's the cool Anzol Software that's coming for release in June that supports all the way back to the 600 line of NVIDIA And can pause and capture either EXR super high res or 360 degree images from your game no matter what you're outputting So it doesn't it doesn't matter what what screen you've got you can capture a full resolution image from within the game Put some filters on it now the game has to support Anzol as well But I thought that was a pretty interesting thing It's not going to help streamers or anything like that But but just for for taking like really cool-looking pictures of something that you like inside of a game Yeah, it's basically Some console games have had this already. It's called the photo mode in in there are many different games that do it It's basically Instagram for games and you can roam around in the scene that you're playing and just take a very pretty picture It's kind of cool. As you mentioned, this is going to be enabled in Many different NVIDIA cards. So even if you have back to the 600 series You're still going to have this enabled if it is enabled in the game. You're playing so it's not, you know 1080 or 1070 specific. It's more gadget-like But it's a cool thing to have I guess and then the 1080 can support HDR Constream 4k HDR to the NVIDIA shield. It's certified for Microsoft's play ready 3.0 standard So it can stream 4k Netflix to a PC. So if you're you're into HDR and 4k There's another reason you might want to be able to justify splash 600 dollars well, so, you know it the screens are becoming fairly You know fairly not cheap But the prices are coming down the 4k 5k 6k screens even in the next couple of years are probably going to be on the desks of some of the nerdy geeks we are and and and gadget tested some of the current games in 4k with all settings up to maximum and They're getting 43 Frames per second on the 1080 which you know, I guess 43 is a low number But it's 4k with everything set to maximum So it does allow you to play that game even at 4k and it's one of the most demanding games there is today So 4k I think is a is a something to to keep your To keep an eye on as well when you're choosing graphics card and these ones seem to Deliver for gaming as well not just for the capabilities of displaying 4k Now yesterday on the show we talked with Veronica about the idea of email being illegal outside of work hours And we're gonna get to a bunch of emails about this in a minute But our pick of the day comes from Drew who has a boss in Paris and he works in New York So Drew is in New York bosses in Paris He felt bad sending email during work hours from New York knowing they would come in the evening for his boss Because his boss would then turn around and answer him at 9 p.m. Local time So Drew says my solution to this is a Chrome extension called boomerang I believe Veronica alluded to service like this But basically it adds a send later button to my Gmail window and will hold my messages in limbo until whatever time I tell it to send this way when I have a non critical email to send my manager I just have it set to deliver to him at 8 a.m. His local time Yeah, that's I love the idea that the emails are lost in limbo And I also love the idea that he's you know trying to be kind to his boss and think oh I don't want him to have to answer at 9 p.m. Yeah, it's it's a difficult problem. I love the tool though It's it's a really cool idea for this use Feedback at daily tech new show comm you can find more picks a daily tech new show comm slash picks Want to get through a few of these responses quickly from yesterday If you didn't hear the show basically there is a section of a very controversial French labor law as I said I need to fill his club for more information that will make a Without penalty it will make it a requirement for companies to notify Their employees that it is not okay to send emails and receive emails from work outside of work hours now We we just talked about in general like what about sending emails outside of work hours And a lot of people wrote in about time zone Lee doesn't want you to forget that most smartphone notifications though can be turned off He says I don't need to be notified in real time for Facebook mentions likes comments tags tweets Etc and for me email is included in this list. I'm happy to forego the notification dopamine If it means I become more productive in my daily life if you want to read more about the negative effects of smartphones on worker productivity Check out the book the organized mind by day at Daniel Leviton excellent read for those who want to reclaim productivity and creativity in their lives I don't have email notifications on do you Patrick? Email yes during the day, but I also use I can't remember what it's called do not disturb Yes, do not disturb mode on my iOS devices where at a certain time of night and until certain time in the morning I get no not if notifications at all and honestly, I couldn't imagine people not using it if you are not using Do not disturb mode automatically set at a certain time Start doing it because there is honestly unless I don't know you're Got some kind of unhealthy obsession. No, I'm kidding, but yeah, it helps a lot to do that notifications It's and don't turn on notifications for things that you don't really need to be notified about I accidentally turned on Twitter notifications recently and it actually causes me stress because I think oh something important Oh, no, it's just Twitter notification like I need to turn those off Gadget chaser works on a closed network and when he leaves work There's actually no way for him to access his work email He finds it mostly a blessing, but he writes when something extremely important requiring immediate or near immediate attention Happens I have to travel to my office to take care of it This is rare, but it happens at times, especially if I'm supporting co-workers overseas The other part of the curse is that usually on Monday or any day that I return from a prolonged absence due to work travel or leave I am inundated with literally hundreds of emails that I have to prioritize and inform myself on Yeah, this I mean there is no perfect solution a lot of people in the Subsequent comments are talking about You know time zone differences as well There are always going to be Cases where it's better in cases where it's worse. I don't know that there's a perfect solution and The law that you were talking about yesterday certainly isn't a perfect solution either I think that's being made abundantly clear by all the comments. We're getting yeah No, as your point now Adam P wrote in and said we live in California My wife has to take meetings with Europe almost every morning at 5 or 6 a.m Laws like this ignore that reality and Russell is working at a global firm And they think a lot about this one of the big challenges is time zones We often work across many time zones with teams in different parts of the world Which necessitates communication outside of the non-traditional workday? I can attest to that to Russell and Adam my wife has to get up and talk to the UK Or she's got to talk to Japan at weird hours of the day like eight o'clock at night So yeah, I mean that that is more and more a reality for people who work in large organizations with Offices all over the world You know sometimes you have a contributor who lives somewhere in Europe and then they go to Japan It's it's you know and I I used to work at at the lizard entertainment and we would work with the US all the time and that was already kind of a Not a problem, but it was interesting sometimes to to juggle the schedules But they in the US also had the offices in Europe and the offices in Asia to work with and I mean It's a reality of the modern world, isn't it? But I think just to try and defend this law for just a second or the idea behind this law Yes, there are cases and exceptions where it's not gonna fit I think it's the case for any law and if you go by These exceptions and these cases Nothing is ever gonna work and ever gonna be done for anything. It doesn't even have to be about the law It could be about, you know a rule you try to institute in your company or you know a case where you want to try and do Things a certain way you're there are always going to be Instances where it doesn't work. So the idea of the law is very specifically for people who have technology and notifications and emails invading their You know every moment of their life when it doesn't have to these cases are cases where it has to Because if it doesn't it doesn't work But there are a lot of people a lot more people where they go to work from nine to five or six or eight And then they go home and they should or I guess that's a that's the question Should they be allowed to just not have to worry about work at all ever until they go back to work unless I guess Exceptional things where you can always call the person, you know, it's always possible. They still have a phone It's not like they go to the moon and you can't contact them if there's something actually very urgent You can still call them, but the constant email notifications and you feel like you have to answer anyway I'm redoing the debate from yesterday. Yeah, and you know really Most a lot of responses we got where I don't think you should be penalized if you have to do this And a key part of this is there is no penalty for breaking this law It is really the government trying to nudge people into the conversation I don't think personally that a law is going to fix this I the best I could expect is that will it'll engender these kinds of conversations, which I think are a good thing I don't think the law is the solution But I think the problem is real as Patrick just described it which is we need it We need a cultural change and and you may reasonably think that a law will enact that cultural change Or not But but I think we all kind of agree that that needs to happen Yeah, and you know it's interesting even in France We have this discussion of do we really need a law for this or that? You know, it's not like it's a US exclusive Way of looking at the problem, but we definitely do have a tendency of going to Legal means more quickly in France and maybe even in Europe Definitely in France where we need to solve a problem. Our first thought is often well, let's you know make it so it's That's that that's actually a French saying that we Well speaking of French things and French spin Patrick Beja what you got going on over at French spin calm a Couple of things we did do a French special on the Philly's Club where we discussed a lot of the French Mindset about legal and political matters. 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Is that what's going on?  All right, we'll get some titles here in a second go to show Your your audio improved significantly all of a sudden Really? Yeah, you're a lot clearer now because Roger left now. Can you hear me? I think so now when I'm not I was talking to you for like three minutes like Savory things about you When I can't hear what you're saying I usually assume that's what you're saying But yeah, the audio quality For Tom improved when you dropped and it went back down when you joined back. So that must be Google Hangouts managing the bandwidth to you is my guess Yeah, that would make sense. Yeah, well, I mean during the course of the show, I didn't notice any of them Any any of the quality issues you noticed Patrick that your text or Yeah, yeah, no it the the audio quality drop down I mean there were like stutters and issues you would have definitely noticed it if it was there So yeah, it was just for me, but I I quit and rejoined it. It was fine. So don't know what happened there Google Hangouts is an orphan product orphaned Did you guys do that go type do titles in the 30 seconds? Oh the the chat room is saying that they heard the Audio quality improvement too Well, you know what? Hmm. It's interesting the way it is and Ken from Chicago said Was saying unsavory things about you sweet things by definition aren't savory What about titles all right titles top of the top is that Stephen King's auto I guess that's a take on maximum overdrive, which was a horrible movie by the way Trucking down the information highway You may now sleep you may now sleep behind the wheel live from BitTorrent I think that's a live. Yeah alive It's a call to you know For a bit live for a bit Torrey California knows how to ride share Don't ask the coax There ought to be a law. Oh, I like this one. There ought to be a law.   Yes Well, okay, then let me you know nowadays everyone wants a gold star is it is a key There's a key part of this reaction. I'm not saying you're wrong All right, try it again. Wait, wait, it's not it's not about the the ability. It's just you hadn't heard it He'll devray. Yeah, we're a lot. Yeah, not bad. That's better better because I was just imitating you and not trying to read I Should I should do French lesson podcast you should Great, so is that what we're gonna call it because I need a title or pick a card any video card I like that pick a card any video card. There's also hungry for power cards and then clash of the Titan and then X Titans and X's with X and the parentheses It's the card any video card. What do you think Patrick? Which one do you like? I Don't have one that I especially like. I don't think the French one should be the title. I just like it but yeah Pick a card any card. I guess is relevant to the Topic to the discussion topic. So we'll go with that Betty your cards. Remember there used to be a multitude of chipsets you could Makers you could rely on our standard to Yeah, in many different areas too It seems like two is a magic, you know magic number for It's one more company that gets you out of the antitrust lawsuit. Yeah, I guess Well, we have competitors look we have competitor I Cook and Pepsi Ford and Chevy National League of America League Although with Ford Chevy also have Chrysler, but that's fiat. Well, I'm cooking Pepsi. You also have RC Cola, but It's not real Cola Not real Cola Remember like like Cola. I liked like San Francisco is one of the was one of the test markets so was St. Louis Came in a little bottles. It's like why are these little bottles of soda in our front door? And then we noticed that every every house in the neighborhood had I feel like like did a lot of test marketing pretty much as marketing because We were all excited in Greenville because we're a test market. I Love Ken from Chicago is saying go get Pepsi Microsoft and Apple Apple and Google Democrats and Republicans. Yeah Yeah, it's Android and then there's the illusion of choice Yeah It does I think well, it's like we always look the phrase is there are two sides to every story, right? We we do like to think in pairs Once it gets more complicated it it becomes a little think about because maybe in reality There are three sides to every story. We just never realize it There are an indeterminate amount of sides to every story Well, maybe not to every story. That seems like it's too, you know universal there might be an There are an indeterminate amount of sides to stories, right? Yeah, there you go story. Yes I love how language nerdy we can get. Yeah, it's your side my side and the right side I Think it applies to the Democrats and Republicans thing that There's that side that side neither one of us Me outside of VR would there's really no pressing need to upgrade For video graphics cards like if you have a 9-7 like a GTX 9-7 I have a 970 and I really want to 1070 but I'm not sure I can justify it You should get a 1080 and it's a business expense. Yeah. Yeah, that that is exactly how to justify it Thanks, Tom. No, but I never go for the AT series. I do not upgrade graphics cards Because I don't cover video games enough But I I think you could make an argument that you do need these and I'm not just saying that to be your friend Like I you you this is your lifeblood right here. Like no other stuff works. I agree. I agree. It's just yeah, it's and Yeah, I could justify it. I just I'm just not sure I I want to I think and if I did buy one of those cards It would be a 1070 not a 1080. It's really it's a lot of money Yeah, but it's true that nowadays the only reason to even get a graphics card is for Games that's the only reason like literally. There's no other I'm I'm curious Don't they so Roger you mentioned they don't use the GPUs for rendering. There's they do so So what Adobe's done over over a period of time and what open Direct compute and direct x12 and let us do is basically try to offload any kind of parallel processings Onto the GPU because it's faster, right? Yeah, that's what I think but it's for example Premier it's limited to rendering but not encoding So if I put a bunch of effects on top of my video say like oh, I put like a watery effect or something the GPU will help render that Lowering the time but when it comes to encoding to like h.264, it's all CPU bound doesn't if you use Adobe Chris after effects it uses nothing and if you use Photoshop it uses a little bit of your GPU to accelerate Some of the rendering when you're doing a multitude of effects on top Right, I would have thought that even in coding was using the I guess there are specialized chips specifically for h.264 It's a lot of it just has to do with That the software isn't there yet to make the quality as good as a software based render Like they've done hardware renders before but compared to like what you would do on the CPU It might be faster on a GPU, but the quality that qualitatively the image that you get isn't as nice Really, but it's all math. How can it not be okay? It's because you're doing you're doing this You're doing a subsection of math Okay In order to in order to make it highly parallel so you can do a new GPU But you use it a lot if you use a quadro card All those ones do that you use in CAD That is accelerated by that GPU, but that has to do with more with Calculations on precision points and it is with like like a quadro card would be terrible for gaming like it doesn't really help for that calculation And yeah chat when I realize also for 3d animation and that kind of thing But then you can if you go to professional uses, there's lots of them like for research and I don't know Molecule folding and that kind of thing so that I understand but I was talking about No, there are no each that to six four optimized chipsets That I know for decoding I'm sure the coding there is but not in coding Yeah, I guess is what I think a better way that Patrick put it. Yeah, cuz the 1080 can do decoding of HVAC for 4k. Yeah, I don't know that it can do encoding Yeah, you can do it one way or the other. Oh the El Gato turbo to six four. I used to use that It would it made things mildly faster The thing is turbo So this is the weird thing remember when Larabee came out from Intel and everyone thought Intel was gonna do like a 3d card that would compete with AMD and Intel tried. Well, so it turns out Discrete I guess it's integrated, but it would you it turns out that the whole not the whole point But they essentially were testing the waters because they have they're gonna do they still have Larabee kicking around But it's gonna be doing something else Larabee got reassigned to another office. Sorry Larry Because the whole idea was that you could do general general can what they call a GP general processing on the GPU chip and they want to basically kind of develop that into its own thing where Yeah, that would be interesting for sure. We've been talking about it forever Because that's kind of the ultimate That's kind of the ultimate kind of co-processor ideal is Roger You paid attention to the chat room because dr. Payne's pointing out and Vank and Vank is the name give it to Nvidia ASIC I put that video encoding It's induced with a Kepler You know, I have never seen that used. I know someone I know a user wrote a plug-in And unofficial plug-in for Adobe. I'm not Adobe After Effects Adobe Premiere Pro, but The official version of Adobe Premiere will not support. It's used and I'm wondering it's it is used for It's one of the the Encoders you can use if you're streaming. I think OBS Which is one of the game streaming softwares? Enables and vex so I'm guessing for streaming. Yeah for streaming. It's used But I don't I'm not sure how good it is for actual like encoding of videos That's that's pretty old to 2012. I wonder if yeah, cuz like I learned the last thing I read was last reading up on it last year it's like No one was really using I mean, I don't know about streaming I so if we're in the streaming point of view if you're like a twitch guy or something I might be different, but in terms of like non-linear editing. I haven't seen anything that would offload On the GPU that wasn't like just a rendering issue in terms of encoding Toe card second general useful for present Although if they can do an array of processors that just crunch on it. That would be great, too which is what um What we used to do at roof 3 we used to use a cluster To encode all the videos because it was fast or Then if you just had the machine that you were working on do it Bangers and mash I remember there a bunch of products that were like, oh, we have GPU accelerated encoding I think one was the media theater Something and I looked and I tried in and it was okay, but it wasn't great looking it's like a Think of none or some wrote a really great article on just how How if he it did that this was five years ago, so it's probably changed. I'm not sure if it's changed enough What was oh Tom let me know when we're offline. Oh, yes, we are still online. I Am looking at the lyrics to men sito raven a Because I have a punk rock version of that And it's got stuck in my head when you made me speak a lot of So now I'm going offline. Goodbye everyone