The Rocaster Pro 2 firmware 1.0.7 was released this week, and it basically incorporates all of the updates that we've had in the beta 1.0.5, 0607. And so today we'll be going through all of the new features, or at least the most important ones, and taking a look at what this means if you are just updating for the first time to get all of these new features. So I'll just say a quick hello to some folks in the chat. Hello Bill, great to see you here. And also we've got Chris in and Richard as well. And then also hello to the folks in the backstage, but I've already said hello to them. Crowd goes wild. So let's start with, first of all, exactly how you go about updating the firmware. If this is something you haven't done already, then you will no doubt actually just get the automated message on the screen of the Rocaster to tell you to update. But if you haven't got that, then the way to do this would be you would click on the settings just over the top here, go into system and then in information, and then here you can just click on check for updates. So if you didn't receive an update automatically, then you can always do that from in here. So that is the way that you would get to the update. So let's start with really the most exciting one. And I think that this is probably what most people have been talking about and waiting for. And this is the new audio routing features that we've got related to the USB channels specifically on the back of the Rocaster. So just to recap again, we've got two separate USB cables on the back of the Rocaster here that go into the computer. But actually this gives us three separate USB channels because we've got the first cable, which is also what you use to connect with the Road Central app to update the software that way or to update the smart pads or things like that.  And they are called Rocaster Pro to main and Rocaster Pro to chat. The name of that first one, by the way, has changed. I'll come to that in a little while. That's either stereo or multi-track now, but we'll talk about that in a little while. And then you've got the sort of secondary cable, which conveniently is called Rocaster Pro to secondary. So those are the three USB channels we've got going into, I say into the computer. I've got them both going into the same computer, but you could have the first cable with the two channels going into one computer, then have the secondary going into a different computer. Or you could also have it plugged into something like an iPad or an iPhone or something like that, connecting that over USB as well. So previously in the previous version of the firmware, we did have Mix Minus on some of the channels. And it was in fact that the main channel did not have Mix Minus. The chat channel did have Mix Minus. And the secondary channel, you could choose whether or not it had Mix Minus on it or not. Whereas now basically you've just got the option of having it on any channel that you want. But they've gone even further than that. But I should probably just clarify once again what exactly Mix Minus is and when you would use this. So it is when you are using one of these channels for some sort of communication device, sort of communication app I should say, or something where there's basically two-way audio. So for example, at the moment I'm using, if I just get this out of the way, I'm using the first channel here for my microphone. But then the next three along are basically the main, the chat and the secondary. And I'm using the main for E-CAM Live. I'm using the chat for Discord. And I'm using the secondary channel for Zoom. I'm then bringing in my system audio over a fourth channel. But I'll talk about how I'm doing that towards the end a little bit later. Cause that's probably non-standard procedure should we say. So I'll talk about that a little bit later. But basically all three of these apps have audio that needs to go both ways. So for example, Discord, I need to be able to listen to what's being said in the Discord voice channel, but then also speak into it, of course. And same with Zoom and then also E-CAM Live, if I'm bringing people in on interview mode or I'm playing sound effects from E-CAM, the sound effects are going to need to come into the Rocaster, into the mix. But then basically when you want Mix Minus is where you don't want that audio that's coming in from those apps to be going back out to them. So the way that this would cause problems is if you had your Zoom settings so that your Rocaster Pro 2 was set as both the microphone and the speaker, then anybody who's talking in a Zoom call, their audio would come into the Rocaster, but then it would also feed straight back into the Zoom call because it's both the input and the output. And what that would mean is everybody in the Zoom call would hear themself back, slightly delayed, which is called slapback. So using Mix Minus basically means on that specific channel, what it's gonna do is it's gonna take in all of the audio, whoopsie daisy, he says, hitting his microphone, take in all of the audio from that particular channel, but then the output that's going back out to that channel, it would just remove the audio from there from the return signal, if that makes sense. So let's have a little look at how we actually turn on this Mix Minus on these channels. So we now come into the settings menu once again, and then in the outputs, we've now got this rooting here. And here you've got the choice of either having the main mix, which is Mix Minus is off, or the Mix Minus on like that, which means that it will just do exactly what I've just explained to you. There is, however, this new advanced feature, which is called Custom. And what this is gonna do is it's gonna allow you to select exactly what you want going into that particular channel. So this is basically simulating Mix Minus. We've got the USB main selected here. And it's basically saying at the moment that every other single channel that you've got coming into the Rocaster is going out to that main USB, except this one here with the cross next to it, which is the USB main. So effectively this is simulating now exactly what Mix Minus is. It's taking all of the channels that you've got coming into the Rocaster and sending them all out to the main, except for that particular one. And as I say, this is on a sort of channel by channel basis. So if we come into the Rocaster Pro 2 chat, then that we might have a completely different setup. So where might you want to use this? Well, let's just say you had a back channel going in Discord, much like I've got here. And this was set to the Rocaster Pro 2 chat channel. I might say, well, actually, I just wanna completely exclude this from the live stream so that you can't hear if the people in the chat are saying anything. And in that sense, what I could do is I could just click on that one or tap on it rather. So now you can see that we've got everything else is going into the mix, which is going onto the live stream, except the actual main and also except the chat. And that would mean that the people in the chat, the back channel, I should say, in Discord, could say whatever they wanted and it wouldn't actually come through onto the live stream. Now, although I do have a Discord back channel going, this isn't the way that I'm actually using it. So I have actually got the Discord still selected here, but I'm just excluding it from the live stream in a different way. And I'll come onto that a little bit later. I don't wanna confuse this issue right now, but this is just so that you can basically decide exactly which audio is coming in and which audio more to the point is gonna go out to each individual channel. Now, this applies to here, the main. It also applies to the chat channel, the secondary channel as well, and also Bluetooth. So there's basically four channels where you have got this sort of advanced routing options. Now, in a later update, we're told that they're going to be actually having the similar sort of routing, but to the headphones. So at the moment, basically, the headphones are gonna get whatever is coming out from the mix for the four sets of headphones here, but you will actually be able to adjust that to decide in much the same way as you can do this, what is going to go where. So that is the first thing. And that is a really powerful feature that allows you to do some really quite advanced routing. And as I say, I'm doing something a little bit different to this sort of built-in functionality in terms of the routing that I'm doing, but I'll talk about that after covering the main update. So the other thing, though, that we've got is the one second, what's it, Daisy? The other thing we've got is basically mix, multi-track, sorry, versus stereo mix. And what this is related to is if you come into the settings again, back out of the routing and come into multi-track, this is what is going over USB into the computer. So multi-track, at the moment, or what you can do, I should say, with the ROCASTER is you can have it so that you record a separate track for every single input that you've got coming in. So at the moment, we're set to the recording settings, but I'll come on to USB. So where might you want to use this? Well, you've either want to have, let's say you're recording a podcast on the device, then you would press record, and you could either have it just record everything all mixed down exactly as you've set it all so that you've just got a single track recording. But you could also have a multi-track recording, which means you might have all of these different inputs coming in, but you actually want individual tracks for these different channels that you've got so that then you can do some mixing of them after the fact. So in that case, you would want it to be multi-track. And in multi-track, you've got two different options, either pre-fader or post-fader. So these are the faders. So pre-fader meaning that it takes all the inputs and it records them exactly as they are before you've done any adjustments to the levels and things like that in here. You've also got this option to bypass processing, which means that it will save all of the tracks without any processing that you've got onboard as well. And the third option that you've got is post-fader, which means that however you've got all of these different levels to set, then it will record the tracks at those levels. Now normally, if you're going to be doing multi-track, you would probably want to be doing some post-processing with it afterwards. So generally, it would be more normal to have this as pre-fader. So this is all though, as things were in the previous version of the firmware, but what has changed is we've now got the exact same options in the USB. So you've either got, it is off, you've got pre-fader or post-fader for the mix that is coming out over USB. When should you use the multi-track versus having this off? Well, basically, if you are just using the Rocaster like I am, so it's going into something like Zoom, it's going into something like Ecamm Live, something like that, if you don't know why you might need multi-track, chances are you probably don't need it. The times when you would use multi-track is if you're going to take this into some sort of digital audio workstation, like Adobe Audition or something like that, Ableton Live, whatever, then you might want to have the different tracks going in individually to that mixer. But as I say, if you're not sure whether you need it or not, then you probably don't. So I would just turn this one off if that is the case. And why is that a problem if you don't turn it off? Well, apparently some software didn't really like the multi-track. So I know Ecamm had some issue with taking the multi-track mix if you didn't have some other settings set in Ecamm. So just certain software applications are not designed to have this sort of feed of a multi-track mix come in. They work much better with just a plain stereo feed. So that is a new feature that was added, just this ability to turn the multi-track off. And this is actually what I mentioned earlier about if I come to here, the different channels. When you have got the multi-track switched off, then it will show up in your device list as Rocaster Pro 2 main stereo. Whereas if you have got it set to either pre-fader or post-fader, then it will turn up as Rocaster Pro 2 multi-track. One thing to just bear in mind is that if you have got something set up with one of these in a particular configuration, like for example, say in Ecamm Live, you would got it selected as Rocaster Pro 2 multi-track. And then if you come in here and change it, it would change the device name to Rocaster Pro 2 stereo. 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So EcammLiveMasterclass.com. But let's get down to the update again and let's have a look at the next features. And the next features are related to the virtual faders. So if I just come back over to the top down shot here. On the screen here, what we've got is, we've got six physical faders and those are represented by these first six sort of bars here if you like. So this is representing where the fader is. You can see as I move this fader up and down, this one moves up and down as well. One minor little tweak that they've done to this is if you slide one of the faders down to the bottom, if you're not quite at the bottom, you'll see it remains white. Perhaps you can't even see this. But if I move it right down to the very bottom, it just becomes more of a sort of little hollow pill shape as opposed to solid white just to indicate that you have actually gone completely down to zero.  But the main thing that they've changed is related to the virtual faders. So as well as having the six physical faders, you've also got three virtual faders. And these are here. I'm actually only using two of them at the moment, so only two show up. Basically, if you haven't got any inputs selected for these faders, then they just simply won't appear. But as you add more things in, then they'll sort of fill up and everything will squish up to make room for them. So these are the two virtual faders I've got. One happens to be for a microphone input number four and the other one happens to be for Bluetooth. But the adjustments that they've made are twofold really. First of all, it's related to this little wheel on the side. So previously, you used to have to tap on the particular fader that you want and then the wheel could be used to adjust it. Once you had tapped on the particular fader, you can also simulate the listen and the mute commands. So these are just like the physical buttons that you've got down here. You've got one for listen and one for mute, like that. Well, now what they've done is they've sort of integrated this in the wheel to make it easier for you to do it kind of one touch. So if you just press the button in here, the wheel, what it will do is it will bring up the first virtual fader and you can press again and it will sort of cycle between them like that. And then also if you press and hold the button, then that will actually just activate the mute. So it is a lot easier now to just come in and sort of press on a particular fader and activate the mute. So again, just a small little tweak there, but still nevertheless a nice little addition to the UI, makes it a little bit easier rather than having to keep touching the screen all the time. And the next thing that they've done, again, related to just some minor little usability features. And I know Eileen is in the, was in the backstage. Now I've had a discord issue, but certainly in the chat. There was this thing about the button, the power off button at the back where you would press the power off button, but then you would also have to come and tap on the screen to confirm that you really wanted to switch it off. It seemed like a bit of an extra unnecessary step. I could understand it if you were recording where you wouldn't want to inadvertently switch it off whilst you're recording, but as it is, the button is very sort of tucked out of the way.  So it's unlikely to be accidentally knocked off. But in any case, what they've done is they've made it so that now if you just sort of double tap on it, so you sort of have to do a full press in and then a second press in that will just shut it down so you don't need to come and tap on the screen anymore. So that is more or less the sort of main updates. Oh, the other one related to the dial, I should say as well is that I can't actually demonstrate this now whilst, because it would switch off the audio. But if you come into your recordings section and then come in here, so where you've got your recordings, if you pull up your recordings, then whilst you're listening to a recording back, then the dial actually acts as a control for the monitors out here. So that is the sort of default control for this in any case. If I turn this, it is adjusting the volume of the monitors. So if you have got these sort of left and right monitors plugged in, then that acts as a control for that. Well, now it still does that as well during the playback of any recordings that you've got on the roadcaster. So that is another little adjustment that they've made there. That is it for the main updates. They have done some other tweaks in terms of just sort of little improvements here and there as well. But what I'll do is I'll just check in on the chat and then what I'll do is I'll come to what I've changed in terms of my setup and my routing. I did mention that I've got this fourth channel. So I'll talk about how I've done that. I've done it a little bit different to the way I did it before. So let's just, first of all, though, come and have a look at what everyone's saying. Great to see you all here. So Bill mentioned earlier, just before the stream started, it would like to discuss some issues that have been having with, why is this not coming up? Let me just get that chat up. There we go. We've been having with the Rokas Pro 2 working with the M1 Max. So no doubt that will come up a little bit later in the chat as well. Let me just scroll down. I'm scrolling. Eventually, bear with me, Bill. Richard as well has got some issue. And also Peter was mentioning something in the back channel in the pre-show before we started. Incidentally, I should just mention that memberships are now open on the channel. And so at the backstage pass level, then what we do is we have a little get together in the Discord before the stream actually starts, because you can just use the virtual camera of Ecamm to go into Discord. And that's completely separate to whether you happen to be streaming or recording or anything like that. So then I just hit the go live button. And then when we've finished the stream, then we'll just continue the discussion and chat in there. So if that's something that's of interest to you, then you can click the join button down below. And then that's how you would get into the Discord back channel. Anyone can join the Discord, by the way. That is completely free. And that's another great resource for discussing all of these sorts of things. But that is just the membership section. So if you're wondering what I'm talking about, when I'm talking about the back channel, that's what it is. But in any case, so Peter was mentioning that he had had a couple of issues related to audio dropping out as well. I've not encountered anything myself. Although that said, I'm still technically on the 1.0.7 beta. So I don't know if there's anything slightly different that's happened with people who have updated to the sort of main version, which is, you know, they're technically on a different track, although it should just be the same build. So I wouldn't have thought that would be an issue. But in any case, hey, Pierre, great to see you. I'll count myself in both of those, but you come from and the nerds. Great to see you too, Michael. And beyond 280, greetings. What's your name, by the way? I always like to try and at least get people's names right. I don't always remember them. I can't guarantee I'll remember it next week, but I'll try. Great to see you here, nevertheless. Ah, DJ Rob. Nice to see you here. And my gosh, that studio that you've built just is awesome. I just saw, before I came here, I saw the video you posted in the Ecamm Group. I mean, it just looks fantastic is, but without doubt the best Ecamm studio I've ever seen. I'm sorry, Keith Pelzer. Up until then, I think Keith probably had my vote for the best, but yeah, awesome work, Rob. Let's have a little look. Indeed, all of the rowdies are in the backstage. Let's have a little look. And Eileen, I don't know, I saw you pop into the back channel as well. And then I don't know if you're having issues with the audio or video or something like that. But if you've got any issues, let me know and we'll try and get that sorted out for next time. So sometimes this button looks up, need to pull the cable off the unit. So yeah, it'd be interesting to figure out what's going on. There does seem to be a few little niggles and issues. One thing I will say about road though, locks up that was, one thing I will say about road though is they do seem to be really on the ball. I mean, just by the speed that these updates are coming out and the, you know, the speed with which they're moving on all of this, it's pretty impressive. So I hope they will get all of this sorted out. Ah, it's funny actually, sorry. I was just reading the next comment, but yeah, I'm glad they fixed that button issue as well to Eileen. So Pierre, that is one thing that I didn't mention actually in this thing. They have actually updated the road central app as well. So I don't know if you've downloaded it, but what I found is when I was on the beta, then I think it was around, it might have been beta seven that I opened the road central app and then the roadcaster wasn't showing up in it again, but they have actually updated the app as well. So you do, I think you do need that for it to see the roadcaster. It's something to do with because they've made changes to the USB one, where you've got the multi-track now. It's something to do with whatever they've done on the inside to allow that extra functionality may have had some impact on it talking with the road central. I've left a link in the description to the road central app release notes. In fact, I'll just drop them in here as well though. So that is the road central release notes and it's basically just little improvements. There's nothing as such that's worth noting except that you do need it. So it is worth noting, but what it's also done is the, actually the other thing that they have done is sometimes when you were dragging a file for an audio file to play on the smart pads, if it was incompatible file type, it just wouldn't work and it wouldn't upload. And I in fact did have that issue with one that I was trying to add in there. But now basically it will, I think do the conversion. So it'll say, where is it? There's something about an incompatible issue type. We're containing, oh no, it's not that one. Adding an auto audio file onto an empty pad doesn't prompt the user to replace the pad. No, that's not it. Oh, that was, it's the very first one there. Something to do with, yeah, if an unsupported file is loaded. So that is the little thing that they added in there. So I don't know if that will solve your problem Pierre, but that is what I found with mine as well is on the beta they didn't mention about the road central and so yeah, it suddenly stopped showing up. Let's have a little look at where we're up to. So, oh, Bill's been working with them, road to isolate the bug. It'll be interesting to know what that's out. Indeed, yeah, it does say that they're the same, doesn't it? So where's the release notes? Got those over here somewhere. I've left all the links to these in the description as well, but indeed it does say that version 1.0.7 is basically, this is all the updates that were in 05, 06 and 07 of the beaters. So that's what those are there. So, Vash Sky, hello, great to see you here. There are still some bugs that I'd like to iron out, mainly surrounding Bluetooth, but do you find the audio quality is lacking when compared to the OG RCP? I think the big bottom should have a mixed setting. To be honest, I didn't have the version 1, so I haven't got that to compare it to. I can only go on, what other people have said. I've heard people talking positively about the audio quality, but I just can't compare those. So, the big bottom should have a mixed setting. What do you mean by that? Not questioning you, I'm just ignorant. The big bottom should have a mixed setting. Obviously, is that something that's actually on the hardware version of the big bottom? I do always laugh when I have to say a big bottom, I don't know why. Maybe it's the spinal tap song that it reminds me of. You'd like to throw in a lab for consideration. I'm not sure what that is. Hello, Luca, great to see you here. Thank you for all the kind words and comments you've been leaving on my videos. No problem, you're an inspiration, Rob with your new studio. Let's have a little look. Bill saying they have been very responsive on the audio. So, it's audio drop bug on the primary channel connected to the M1 Mac. So, I've got an M1 Mac Mini, so I don't know if it's the studio or the Mac, but yeah, it's looking, I've just not run into any issues, but certainly just seem that others have got some as well. Let's have a little look. And then what I'm gonna do is I'll just have a little look. I've missed anything, obviously. Oh, you've just upgraded as it wasn't exporting audio files. So, Peter in the back channel had said that he had had the issue where it went, he couldn't actually update the firmware. So, I don't know if anyone else has had any issues with updating the firmware, but it seemed to appear that it had done it and then suddenly at the end it just said it had failed. So, I'm not really sure. Ah, yes, the Rocaster Pro 2 Facebook group, thanks for dropping that in, Paul. So, yeah, I've not done a huge amount with, you're saying using it with the Bluetooth. I've not done a huge amount with Bluetooth, except just testing it and you're on the Mac Studio, Mac's got you. Right, so I'm just on the little old Mac Mini, so we'll see. So, let's have a little look though at what I've been doing, because in one of the previous videos where I talked about this, I'd got some sort of rather gerry-rigged device that was basically taking a USB cable out of the computer into a device that would then split that into headphones and mic, and then I was plugging the headphones of that into one of the jacks on the back of the Rocaster to give me this fourth channel. So, I'll just show you what I'm doing now because I'm doing something slightly different now, and that is, if I just come back to the top-down shot, and I actually said at the time that what I needed to get was basically a TRS cable, which is the sort of headphone jacks, going into an XLR cable, but then there was a few people, but actually it was DJ Rob was the first to point that out, saying that actually won't work because XLR is mono and you will have stereo. So, although you would get something coming through, it isn't exactly what you want. And he recommended using the TRS to dual XL, in the end, I actually found that I got another cable that I could use, so I'll show you what I've done. First of all, let me just mention exactly what we're talking about in terms of TRS, if this isn't something you're familiar with. There are basically three types of plugs that you might find that you could plug into the back of your headphone socket or something like that on your computer, and they would be either TS, so tip and sleeve, which is basically mono. Then you've got TRS, so you've got that extra ring in the middle. This would be what you would have plugged in for stereo, and then the TRRS is what you typically have if you've got headphones with a little mic built in or something like that. So, often the plug on the back of your computer might be TRRS or TRS that you might have sort of lying around to plug into it. Well, in the ROCASTER, if you plug it into any of the jacks at the back, because we do now have these sort of combo jacks or combo connectors, I should say, which are either XLR or the sort of jack plugs, so those will just be mono though. But what you can do in the ROCASTER, and this is nothing new, but we've had it since this version came out, is if you show the right screen, Alec, if you come into the settings for the faders, then for any of the faders, what you can actually do is, as well as having just a choosing the input, so we've got four inputs at the back, but what you can actually do is link two together so that they become a sort of stereo pair. So if I just close this down, what I've actually got is, on this particular one here, you can see that that channel there says mic one, so it's just got the number one next to it, whereas this one says two and three. And basically what's happening is, you can see at the back, I've got the XLR going into here, but then I've also got these two. Now, what happened was, I've just discovered lying about because in my box of cables, Doc and I were talking about, everyone's got a load of cables lying around. What I actually found was that I'd got these, which is basically a TRS on one end, so that's plugged into my computer. And then at the other end is these sort of RCA connectors. So all I did was I went and got a couple of TS connectors like this, plugged those in there, and then this now just plugs into the back. So that's basically taking a stereo from the computer and into here. So what that means is then, that I've effectively got a dedicated channel, which is this one here, which is this one. And if I just pop these back up. So this is where I've now got my system audio. So my system audio, because I'm only bothered about it being one way, I don't need to worry about mix minus or anything like that. It's literally just to take any extra audio that isn't either my e-cam, my Discord or my Zoom, it's to bring that into the mix so I can decide whether or not I want to have that sort of included in what's going out. So that's the way that I've got that set up. There is a couple of different options you could use in terms of those connectors though. So the way that I've done it is still not ideal. So this is the sort of thing that Rob had recommended to me, which is basically TRS to dual XLR. And then you would just plug those two into the back in exactly the same way. The other one that was recommended by some other people is basically similar sort of thing. But here you've got the TRS to double TS for the left and right channels. Incidentally, the size that you would have going into the computer would be eighth of an inch, and then this would be the quarter of an inch or 3.5 mil to six point, you think it'd be double actually, but it's 6.35 I think is the actual thing. I can just drop the links to these in the chat as well in case you are interested. So those are the two sorts of cables that you could use. As I say, I've still done it a little bit weird, but it works nonetheless. So that is the cables that I've got. Now I mentioned before about in the audio routing, let's just quickly jump back to that a second. What you can do is you can exclude certain things from the mix. So for example, if I go to the outputs and I go to the routing again, let's say for channel one instead of mix minus, let's say that I definitely want mix minus effect. So I'm gonna remove the USB main from the USB main, but I could also remove the chat. And I mentioned this that I could remove the Discord so that you don't hear the Discord on the live stream. The only thing is that I want the option to actually be able to bring that into the live stream if I want. It's the same with the system audio. So this would be system audio. I could just say, right, well I wanna completely exclude that from the live stream so that you don't hear any little notification sounds or anything like that that's going on. However, I may actually want to share the screen and share a video or something like that. And so I wanna be able to allow that audio to come through at some point potentially. So rather than using this routing table, although it's great and there's certainly lots of ways to use this, what I've ended up doing because I want the sort of full flexibility to be able to do this on the fly, I don't wanna have to come into here if I wanna just let somebody from the chat, you know, the back channel chat here come onto the live stream. I don't wanna have to come into this menu to do it. So the way that I'm doing it is slightly different. And I have talked about this before, but I'll just cover it once again. So as well as the fader levels, which is setting the level of the audio from each of these channels, you can also decide to mute certain channels as well so that they don't actually appear in the mix. And so what I've done is currently I've got my system audio is muted. I've got my zoom is muted. I mean, this one's irrelevant because we're not using it right now, but I've also got my chat in the discord is muted as well. Now, if I press mute on all of those, basically it's not gonna go out into the output. So you're not gonna hear it on the live stream, but also I wouldn't hear it as well, but you do have this little headphone, little ear symbol I should say, next to each of these, which is the listen. And basically that means that you as the host on channel one and the first set of headphones here, you can actually just sort of monitor any of these channels. And so what I can do is if I turn off all the monitoring, what I can do is I could listen to just the back channel chat, for example. Now, if I did that, I would only be able to, whoopsie daisy, wrong one, I would only be able to hear the discord. And like right now, I can't hear what's going on in my headphones either. But you can actually listen to multiple tracks at the same time or multiple channels at the same time. So all I've basically done is I have actually just turned all of those on so that I'm technically listening to everything, even though some of them are muted and not going out into the mix. So now anybody in the discord will be able to say anything and because it's muted here, I would still be able to hear it because the fader is there, but crucially you wouldn't be able to hear it on the output. So that is the way that I've chosen to do that sort of slightly more advanced audio routing. I'm not using the routing table because I don't want it to sort of permanently be excluded from the mix, if that makes sense. One thing that I should say about this is if you come into the outputs and headphones, is it in here? One second. It is, there we go. It is when you go to the listen. So in the outputs and then go to listen, you can select how you want to hear these. So basically, do you want to hear it pre-fader or post-fader? I want to hear it post-fader, so after fader because I do want to have the option to even though it's muted on the live stream down here, I do want to be able to control the volume of it. So if it does get too rowdy in the backstage, then I can move this down and it's still muted for you guys so you don't hear it on the live stream, but I still have full control over the volume of it. So if you were going to set up something like this, as I say, this is just in settings, outputs and then listen and you select that same thing, pre-fader or post-fader in there as well. So that is the way that I'm using it now. Just noticed that, let's have a little look. So Pierre's just saying, how do you set input and output in your Mac with your setup? So with the output for the way that I've got things coming into the back of here, I've basically just set it as it just appears as headphones. So I've just got it selected as headphones. It's the other end of this cable at the back here. The other end of this is just plugged into the headphone socket on my Mac mini and so I've just selected my output as headphones. I don't really use much else where it's got the audio going back in. So except, you know, e-cam, zoom, occasionally teams. This one that I've got set as zoom, I also have the same settings for that one for teams as well. So if I'm using teams or I don't use Skype anymore, but if I did, I'd just put it on the same channel because I'm unlikely to be using the same applications at the same time. So I think in terms of my actual input selected on my computer, it's just main, but it's kind of irrelevant because I'm not using it for anything if that makes sense. There's nothing that's actually taking that inward signal. So yeah, so this is e-cam. And by the way, it took me a little while to figure out I should just change the color of these buttons to match the color of the apps. So orange being the e-cam, orange eat logo, discord being the blurple and zoom being blue. So I don't know why I didn't color code those earlier, but it makes it a lot easier to see, not necessarily on here because you kind of know where the faders are, but it does make it easier to see when you're on here, assuming you haven't got them all selected. You can just see the colors there at the bottom. So you know which fader is which. So I hope that answers that question, Pierre. Let's have a little look. Roe here, tello, great to see you here. And you are saying, you followed your instructions to set up the RoeCaster Pro too for, I guess, the Zoom. Hope it all went well. Let me know if you've got any problems though. Let's have a little look. You're great, Alex, super deserved. Thank you very much. Quick tip, what are you currently using to show the chat on screen? So it's Ecamm Live. So yeah, if you mean this, like how your chat is showing up, that is Ecamm Live, it's just an amazing application. It has made my entire channel possible because I make all the videos in one take with no edits and I just put it all together with Ecamm and just easily sort of hopping around from scene to scene. So yeah, that's definitely, it might be worth me just mentioning again. For the entire month of July, you can get a 30% discount on Ecamm Live.  And there's two different levels, by the way, just in case you're interested. So there is a standard and pro. The standard is I think around $20 a month if you pay a monthly and the pro is $40, I think if you pay monthly for that. The differences between them with pro, you can use the virtual camera features and that meet the virtual camera feature. Hello, great to see you, Luka. Just signed up as a new member as well. Thank you very much and I'll join the Discord and I'll hook you up in there to make sure you got all the appropriate access. But thank you very much for joining. So where was I? I digress. Oh, the virtual camera feature. So what that allows you to do is take all of the production value that you can get from Ecamm Live and take that into Zoom Teams Discord or something like that. So it means that you don't need to show up on Zoom looking like Zoom. In fact, I should probably mention the Zoom Masterclass. Zoommasterclass.com is where you can find out how to level up your Zoom game. But actually the Ecamm course, I do cover in there how to use Ecamm specifically with Zoom as well. So yeah, to answer your question, Luka, that is how I'm doing that. It's all Ecamm Live. And what's the other added function that you get with the pro level as well as the virtual camera? You also get interview mode as well. So you can bring on guests. So you can set up scenes like this. And if I had people calling in, got my head slightly misposition there, you can bring on guests and do sort of interview shows and things like that as well. I absolutely love it. It's, as I say, it's been very, it's just allowed me to do the entire channel and lots of other business related things as well with it too. Let me just have a little see where we're up to. Ah, this is the, okay, the big bottom thing. So there are two Apex powered processor enhancements, big bottom and oral exciter. On the OG, you could adjust how much they impacted your audio, i.e. mixed between processed audio. I see what you're saying. Okay, right, right, got you. That makes sense now. Uh, I don't know what that is actually.  You pay a little more, but it's so much simpler to use. I don't know what UAD is. You'll have to clarify that. Thank you again, Luca, for joining the membership. I'll be sure to hook you up on the Discord side. It should do it automatically actually, but if you have any issues, just I'll reach out to you for sure. Um, oh, thanks for dropping the thing in for standard and pro. Let's have a little look. Thanks for dropping the links in there, as well, Keely and Paul. Um, so, yeah, I mean, the, I think we've pretty much wrapped up with the actual updates themselves. Um, I'm really pleased with the sort of new sort of streamlined way of connecting things that I've got at the back here. So I did have it, as I said, I had some little dungle hanging out of the back. It wasn't ideal and the cabler was using wasn't the best, but this really does give just sort of total flexibility to be able to, uh, to, yeah, have up to three different channels. Um, I can't wait to see what else they are. Um, they're going to be sort of adding in, in terms of added functionality. One of the things about this is that, uh, with the sort of processor that they got on board, they can actually really do a hell of a lot in terms of, uh, added functionality and stuff like that. And they certainly seem to be, um, uh, certainly seem to be listening to the community in terms of, uh, you know, what everyone wants with it and different use cases, because they probably had, you know, didn't, couldn't anticipate what everybody, uh, everybody, you know, wanted out of it. So it's great to see that. Uh, Rohit, so you're saying, I've followed your instructions for RO-Caster Pro 2 and Zoom and Ecamm. Um, but, uh, on Ecamm main channel, should I keep it as mix minus on chat system channel? Can I bring Zoom into that? I don't use Discord. Right, so the way to think about it is, I would have the, um, uh, everything that has got two-way audio. So Ecamm could have two-way audio. You might not actually use any of the audio features in Ecamm, but technically you could have somebody coming in in our interview mode, or you could also be playing sound effects within Ecamm itself. Now, if you were playing sound effects within Ecamm and they were going into the, into the RO-Caster, then actually they would sort of feed back into Ecamm through the sort of mic channel, if that makes sense on any Ecamm, because you've got it set as both an input and an output. So with Ecamm, I would just recommend turning mix minus on. Um, then with, uh, um, with Zoom, have that, have its own dedicated channel as well, and have mix minus on, on that one. Now, what you could do is just use only one cable, have two separate channels. You've got the main and the chat, and then you could have Ecamm on the main and Zoom on the chat, and you could even set your system audio to the main as well. Um, you know, that would be the simplest setup. I just like to have my system audio separated as well, so it just gives me that extra layer of control, but it's by no means absolutely necessary. You could literally just plug one cable in, and specifically with Ecamm and Zoom, just give them both their own dedicated channel, and then leave the, uh, the system audio on the same one as Ecamm anyway, because Ecamm's kind of got some built-in functionality to eliminate system audio in any case, so that's what I would recommend, uh, to do for, uh, for that. Um, uh, and Bill's saying they need to ship a power adapter with three-plong plug, that includes a ground. Uh, it's funny she'll say that, because I've, uh, yeah, I've, I've thought that I found that I got a little shock off it, but I get a lot with that, we're in, in Thailand, because I'm in, I'm in Thailand, yeah, we have a few, uh, few audio, if, uh, not a few audio, a few electrical issues here in terms of, uh, uh, it's not entirely, it's not entirely clean, and there's a lot of things that don't come with, uh, three pins, so not everything is grounded, so, um, yeah, I sometimes get like a really low, especially from, I've got one of the, uh, the OG sort of wide aluminum, uh, uh, Mac keyboards, and sometimes I get a little bit of, a little bit of a tingling from it, as if there's some sort of leakage somewhere, which is good for electronics, so, uh, yeah, completely agree with that. Um, since Ecamm are the same, how can I have soft background music while I speak? Um, how are you playing the background music would be the, uh, the question there, so is that something that you've got playing in Ecamm? Um, I would just, actually, if you want background music whilst you're recording, I would actually have, um, have the music just playing in the background in Ecamm itself, so in, uh, let me get to the window up, so it would be in just sound effects, so just drop something into the sound effects panel in Ecamm, and then just play it from there. Alternatively, upload it onto the roadcaster using road central, and then play it from, you know, one of the smart pads, but, um, yeah, that's what, uh, that's what I would do with that. Um, uh, the other way to do it would be, um, in Ecamm, preferences, let me just, I've not got my, uh, preferences window set up where it needs to be to, uh, do this, let me just pull this up a second. Let me talk about the screen, uh, uh, audio sharing in Ecamm itself. Right, what I want to do is I'll add a screen share overlay, just do this on the fly, and then come over to, what do I want, Ecamm preferences, get rid of these corners. Oops, there we go. That's a bit better. Um, right. Try not to cover my face too much, although that's probably a good thing to be honest. Uh, so here I am in, uh, Ecamm Live, uh, preferences. Let me just take this one down. Um, so in Ecamm, what you've got is, uh, in the audio settings of the preferences, you've got this option to, um, broadcast system audio. Now, the default for Ecamm here would be when sharing the screen. So that means that, uh, when you do a screen share, because they're figuring that, well, maybe you might be sharing a video or something like that playing, um, then, uh, when you're sharing the screen, it's going to share system audio. So, um, that is the default that you'll find, uh, the default setting in Ecamm itself. Um, but what you can do is, uh, you can also, if you wanted to say play music, say you were playing it in a browser, in Spotify or something like that, for example, uh, assuming that you're using, obviously, copyright, safe music, um, then, uh, what you would do is you would come into here and just say all the time. And so then Ecamm would just be sharing your system audio, uh, all of the time. Um, but what I'm doing is, because I'm bringing my system audio in separately and I'm just literally having control of it on the ROCAS that using this, the method that I talked about earlier, then what I've done is I've changed this to never, um, so that, uh, Ecamm basically is never taking the system audio. So what I'd say to you is, um, so I've just, uh, just catching up with the chat now, so you play music from a browser on your Mac. Um, so, um, yeah, if you were, if you were taking it over the, uh, the same channel, your system audio was going over the same channel as Ecamm Live, um, then if you have got Mixed Minus on, then it would be removing it from the one that's going back, so Ecamm wouldn't pick it up. So in that case, what you'd do is you would just have this one sharing all the time. If you were to give your system audio a dedicated channel, so let's say you were going to use both of those USB cables, you were going to have Ecamm on one of the channels, Zoom on another one and System Audio on another one, then Ecamm, in Ecamm you would remove, uh, the system audio from here completely, so broadcast system audio as never, um, and then basically you're just going to be, the RO, the ROCAS you're receiving the system audio on one channel, uh, and then it's going to be sending it back out to Ecamm down another channel. So in that case, you would have Mixed Minus on for the Ecamm channel, on for Zoom channel, uh, you could, or could have it on for the system as well, it, uh, it actually makes no difference in that sense, because you're only dealing with one way audio in any case, um, but just make sure you have got it switched off in Ecamm here, uh, just so that you also don't get the duplication. So that is, uh, that is how you would do that if you were, um, playing in a browser. Um, and Bill, you're hearing cracking sound in your headset before the primary channel drops. Um, oh, I see that. See, that's the grounding issue you're getting. I see. Yeah, I've not had any, I've not had any noticeable sort of like audio, uh, interference because of any grounding issue or anything like that as such. So, uh, yeah, it's just more case of, uh, it doesn't feel right when I touch something or a little tingling sensation from it. Uh, let's have a little look. So, yeah, obviously that is another option, play it from your phone or iPad, but no, you certainly can do it though. Um, uh, Rohit, you can certainly do it by just, uh, yeah, taking it down a separate channel. Uh, and, uh, yeah, you could add Spotify or YouTube and QuickTime as one audio source to Ecamm, um, or do it, to be honest, yeah, I think it's just, it's, it's overly complicating things when we've got, uh, you can either just permanently bring system audio into Ecamm, or as I say, just take it into the road, uh, roadcaster as well. Uh, getting technical now. Thanks, Michael. Uh, ground loop noise isolator in between, uh, uh, out and headphones might help. Uh, yeah, do keep me updated with the, um, uh, the issue that you have in, uh, Bill, because, um, as I say, I've not encountered anything myself and, but then I just noticed you've mentioned an issue before the, uh, the stream started. Um, uh, Richard did it as well. And then also, uh, Peter in the chat. So there's definitely some issues that they're ironing out, but as I say, it's great to see that they are on top of everything. Uh, well, apart from the issues, but you know what I mean, in terms of fixing the issues that is, um, so with that, um, unless anybody's got any other burning questions or anything like that, um, then I will wrap up. But I'm really looking forward to the future updates and just seeing, I've certainly put in a couple of, uh, other feature requests. And if you aren't already on the beta program, I've dropped a list, uh, sorry, a link in the, uh, the main description of the video in terms of how you can get onto the beta. And then once you sign up there, then they will, there's a little, uh, a form that they give you a link to as well where you can submit, uh, bug reports, feature requests and things like that. Certainly, uh, seem to be, uh, uh, certainly trying to be proactive about fixing them. But, uh, yeah, definitely, Bill, let me know how you get on. And, uh, if anybody hasn't already, then, uh, join the community, uh, or feel free to join the community, takeonetech.io slash family. This is in discord, and this is where we talk about all of these sorts of things, uh, in a little bit more depth as well. Um, you don't have to be a channel member to, uh, actually join the discord. And in there, we've got a whole section on, uh, the roadcaster and things like that as well. So, uh, we continue the discussion in there. Now, what I'll do is, uh, for the, uh, lovely people on the replay, I'll leave a link to some other stuff. Thank you everyone for showing up and for all of your, uh, uh, your questions. Um, oh, so lazy. Sorry, go on. If you've got a, uh, description of the bug, yeah, by all means go and, uh, drop it in. I thought I'd, I thought I'd got to it. I must have missed something. So, uh, yeah, let me know, uh, let me know what the exact bug bug you've got is. Uh, Oh, that's it, Rich. You've got it. It is. It'll be the, it'll be the Hexman confabulator. That's, that's usually the issue. Um, yeah, I'd run out of Smith's and connectors. I had to rush out and get one of those when the roadcaster arrived. So, uh, yeah, that is always, uh, uh, that if not that, then it will be the flungle hoop. But, um, yeah. Uh, uh, go on, Bill, you drop the, uh, description in and I will have a little look at it. Or if not, maybe drop it into the discord. In fact, that might be an idea. Let's actually have a proper conversation about it in the discord. So, uh, yeah, anybody who hasn't already come along and, uh, join the family over on discord and let's continue the conversation in there. But for those watching on the replay, what I'll do is I'll leave a list, a link to uh, my roadcaster pro to playlist over there with a load of other great videos that you can watch as well. Thank you all for watching. I appreciate you being here.


Hi, here we are welcome to the CCTV holiday party Richard Kemp. Can you believe the turnout? I'm very surprised and it's nice to see people that I don't don't even know It's nice to know that free speech is supported by so many people That's it's not a curiosity in our current society if you look around at the way the media is squeezing and pushing and Eliminating free speech all over the place and we're doing it here, but don't you think people aren't that happy about it?  I don't think people are very happy about it, but I would suspect people don't even really know what's happening to them Well as a as a person who is an active user of public access television, which you are you make the show near and far You've made almost I would say hundreds of episodes of that program. Isn't that true? I think that's true, and it's really a kind of a delight and I would also use this as a Commercial too It's something that people can do and it's available to you in the community Just come down here and talk to us about what you want to not what you want to put on or when you can put it on Because there's no really restriction. I think almost no restriction on what you can say in the content kind of material And that's very important. It really is and I wanted to switch everyone a merry Christmas and a happy Hanukkah and a happy holidays Because we are here having our holiday party. It's the 20th anniversary of Channel 17. It's the 27th It will be anniversary of CCTV and public access in Vermont in Vermont And we have a number of folks from other access channels here Maybe we'll round them up, but first I'd like to give Richard a little certificate of appreciation Here we go Richard. Thank you so much for all of your work Well, thank you very much on the CCTV board and making television and standing tall and for you Well, I've been standing tall for some time But I just wanted to say there should be an award here for Lauren Glendavidian For what she's done over all of the years about making public access and make channels this channel available to people in the public So that's my I didn't bring an award for you, but that's my reward to you. Thank you Richard I really appreciate it and thanks We've got I've got Jonathan and Beth right over there and we're gonna bring them over because they are usually behind the camera And we don't usually get to see them. So we're gonna have Jonathan come over and Beth come over and Jonathan McCandless and Beth McMullen, how are you? Come on close to me. Come on over here. Let's get close Let's have a group hug. Come on. I'll give you this in a second. I'm gonna give you this in second You know the two of you have been volunteering for channel 17 youth in particular for ages and Beth also for a long time and you're usually behind the camera But why do you keep coming week after week to volunteer your time Jonathan? Because I like all the live shows and I like all the new and interesting people and I like the holiday Probably with all the food and the nice people and I've been here for seven years already And it's fun to volunteer here. Thank you for letting me volunteer and I'm gonna keep coming for as long as I can We're so I'm so honored I really am and Beth you have been involved with both Jonathan and Ivan and and then you step behind the camera at a certain time Yep And I love it What what for the in the last couple months what have been interesting shows that you've seen and been part of?  I'm fascinated. I was a teacher once and I like his reading hearing about historical tours and and I like knowing what Politically is being planned by groups and Just I've never had A channel to the kind of Conversation that we get to listen to just because we're behind the camera and Then we make it available to the public which feels like something that's very important We're pretty happy this week in particular because we finalized a contract with Comcast So we have funding to go until 2016 so another six years, which is great news And it's important because the cable subscribers fund channel 17 But also we couldn't do it without the support of great volunteers like you yep And this July well this July 26 will be my eighth year of volunteering at the TV station Oh my gosh Well, let's give you a little certificate in advance of appreciation For all of your help and good work here at channel 17 and CCTV. Yep. Thank you so much. Yep, you're welcome Staff that helps us understand what what to do and how to get better Lotta from Jeff and Rob and Riber's fantastic Jeff Wyman. Yeah, they've been real pleasure working with everybody I just can't think of all the names at the moment, but I could go down a roster Nice nice place to be. Thank you so much Beth. I appreciate it. Okay. Thank you so much folks who are watching We're talking to some of our volunteers the folks that make channel 17 and CCTV a great place And we have Lee Terhune here with us Lee. Welcome. Hi. How are you really good? I'm really glad to be here and good food tonight. Yeah, it's a nice party. It's a good time You know you've been a community activist from even when you were lived in Colchester I remember and that was to the early years of channel 17 and before that when I lived in Williston Is that right? I cut my teeth on the pyramid mall in Williston with Ben and Jerry and Joan Knight of the whole group of us concerned citizens of Williston and then I moved to Colchester But I was close to Burlington and so I worked with the Peace and Justice Center That was how I got involved in activism in Burlington You know we made a video for the city of Burlington about the pyramid mall before There was any development in Williston and I and one of the things we did is we Went to Plattsburgh and we drove down the thoroughfares of Plattsburgh and videotaped it and then cut the fields of Williston intercut it with the with the Sprawl of Plattsburgh and the other day I was driving my daughter Stella Rose is 11 and I said, you know it used to be that the only thing that was here was skate land and The imported auto place and the state police and all the rest for farms and I looked around I realized it Just like that drive through Plattsburgh 25 years ago There's been a huge huge change in the community. Hasn't there do you think that we got a better development by waiting for Maple tree place? I mean we got the same kind of sprawl development But think of what pyramid mall looked like and think of what maple tree place looks like we got a better deal I think I think either way you do it it's there's a kind of inevitability to the development of retail and It's a different time the interstate is going to bring it no matter what and now they're fighting over where they put another Interstate interchange in South Burlington And I saw Bill Stono here tonight and there's a whole contingent in in South Burlington that are fighting that Well, luckily at Channel 17 you can find out all about it Which is the neat thing is that you can sit through those meetings even if you're not there, right? And you know I do Well, I know you do because you really give us good feedback I call in when things are wrong like I found the it on on a clickable agenda on a meeting that I have to refer to Regularly because of something I'm writing and the clickable agenda is wrong. I'm so glad you do that now You've been very involved in the NPA in the New North End and tell us a little bit about what's going on out there And why that's an important area for you to be engaged in well I really love grassroots democracy and when I lived in Williston and in Colchester We had a town meeting and town meeting was wonderful I mean we voted on things that were controversial in the community and sometimes the votes were one or two or Three votes and then we'd revote and somebody would take their wife's hand and push it up and you know those were exciting times So then I came to Burlington and there was nothing and then I discovered this thing called the NPAs and I remember the first meeting that Chuck and I went to we couldn't find it and when we finally did find it after You know we're like we went to the Heineberg Center and we went to the St. Mark's Church and everybody said you know I think it's I think it's here I think it's there so we finally found it and it was in the library in Hunt School at these little tables and chairs and When we came in I remember people looked at us like who are these people? What are they doing here? but I saw the potential of NPAs to be like the town meetings in other Vermont towns and It is it really is I go to them all over the city now for one reason or another And it's just great watching people come alive with the spirit of democracy.  Why can't we watch their meetings and so we did a resolution and asked them to please tape their meetings And then that discussion led to isn't the finance board tape their meetings We need the finance board to tape their meetings Well, you know Nancy Kaplan who's the Burlington rep for Channel 17 is here tonight So it would be good to get together with her and tell her about that. She's on your board. Yes on the channel 17 trustees Well, I think though that the people we have to move are the people on the parks commission for example And the finance board. I mean ultimately they're the ones aren't they that make that decision And we can we could organize to see if we could get that to happen if that's what people are interested in All right, good. So in the meantime, I'm going to give you a certificate of appreciation to thank you so much Thank you. It's a small token It's been my pleasure and tonight the food is great. Oh good. So we cook too and we make TV Thank you so much James Jereau You are a community producer par excellence meaning you are our most most Busiest and productive community producer. Well coming from you Coming from you that couldn't be a bigger compliment and I just like to tell you and thank everybody For letting me come in here every Monday almost feel like I'm one of the staff here But everybody watch the art for word at cctv.org Clicking Jero Gero and you'll see a lot of art openings history never know what's coming from the art for word I really don't know either But it's time to you know, thank everybody for letting me be a producer here and I really love that Well, we I was just watching the pomegranate Christmas party that you did we had that on today Yeah, here. I missed up to the light balance a little bit in there But I got good audio and I've got some good audio and a lot of noise from the kids But I can come away with something Usually I'm having to work on my light balances and things that are technical in the field besides being a producer I'm trying to get people to talk but I'm fairly lucky on and those regards but on the edit and like to thank Bill a lot for Fixing the linear edit system for me because I do have a sort of a little dyslexic and I have a hard time with computers So having that linear system available It's really helped me quite a bit and it's really put me back in the swing of things if you were to encourage anybody watching To make television. What would you say to them? I would say probably just take a camera and go I love the lake I love being near a swamp or anywhere where there's birds and take a video camera And this is just the way I would do it or the way that I got started and start doing things In nature and then putting them together and then see where you can take it from there That's inspiring. I have a certificate for you. I am once you hold the microphone While I find it because it's here and it's a small token of our appreciation Here it is So thank you for all your work your hours of programming that is really fine And really connects us in a way that meetings don't so we're really appreciative of the work you do So thank you so much. All right. Thank you and I really appreciate this and I'll always treasure this. Thank you James to row one of our great community producers. We um, we're gonna bring Elsie Elsie Heinz here. Elsie had one of the most popular programs this year. He's part of the next generation How are you Elsie? Nice to see you. Thanks for coming It's going good. So how did you get here to channel 17? Oh over the summer my mom wanted to Heinz most people probably heard of her she had a show here and They offered and I went with her and they offered me to do some kind of work and I liked it So I came back and you come every week now. Don't you? Yeah, and you're directing. Are you? Yeah, well not now but like Like for most shows I direct Do you think television is something you might want to do when you as you get older? Yeah, sure. Maybe um, I Think that I'm probably gonna go into Something with technology maybe maybe not television as a way to go but definitely something involving a lot of Something I want technology maybe designing websites. This is fine for now I mean this is probably gonna look good on a college application. So like it brings some options for me Well, and it's all media. I mean, it's all digital and you're talking about whether it's computers or video It's all part of the same mix. Isn't it now? Indeed it is so if you were to encourage other young people to get involved and Channel 17 what would you say to them? Joins joins and I'll tell you sorry Joins channel 17. It's a lot of fun It teaches you some valuable skills and you meet a lot of smart people and It's a good educational experience along with us on something to keep you occupied. It's a good time here It's a very friendly environment. It's good Well, thanks, and here's a certificate of appreciation for you Thank you, and you know one of the things I was saying before you came on is that the show you did on technology is one Of the most watch programs that we have on on the web So thanks for bringing the viewers to us. Cool. Thank you. Thanks a lot So I won't keep you from your responsibilities, but I'll let you get back to work. Thanks so much Elsie Heinz is one of our star Community producers and I'm gonna ask Nancy Kaplan actually to join me now because she is a trustee from channel 17 Nancy welcome. Thanks so much. I'll see talk to you soon. Thanks. All right, great. How are you? I'm good. Thanks. Thank you for joining us at the party. Oh, you're welcome. It's a great party once again good food I see the mayor has walked in It's always fun people and my son is behind the camera today. That's excellent Yeah, so we have some good news to share which is that we are about to ink a deal with Comcast for channel 17 I have to say I have not seen Staff and a board work harder on a contract you guys really it was an immense amount of work And I'm really proud to have been a part of it and you guys sealed the deal nice work And I think it I think Comcast also deserves a lot of credit for being a good negotiating partner. Absolutely This is it's it was a good collaborative process they were polite and easy to deal with more or less and I think the outcome was good for both sides So we have funding secured till 2016. It's great That's when Comcast contract with the state and so presumably we'll renew it then but we couldn't do it without the cable subscribers Right, right. Absolutely, and it's good to keep public access TV on the air and that's the point, right? We appreciate you're being a trustee and you're going to continue on even though you're not running for reelection I hope so I think if I can talk the rest of the city counselors into reappointing me I'd be happy to stay on as a trustee. It's been a great job Why do you think why is this something you want to continue doing, you know? I knew zero about public access TV when I started and the learning curve was pretty steep And I just think it's really interesting I never thought about the issues that you guys bring up about free speech and public media and Just getting the word out In a way that people don't have to pay for it really it's a community service and I think it's terrific And I just like being a part you're a fun crew Thank you so much Nancy. We appreciate it and I want to thank all of our viewers We are having a great time here at the CCTV party. I want to welcome the mayor. How are you? Nice to see you here Thanks for joining. Yes, 27 years. Oh, no It can't be that long and it's 20 years for channel 17 this year, too Yeah, that's a real celebration and you're a vital service to the people of Burlington no doubt about it You know Peter Clevelle was just in in Afghanistan and he he called and he said we're I'm wondering if we can get public access going in Kabul And I thought well, that's a very interesting idea I wonder I wonder if that would be the key service then, you know It'd be public access would probably provide most of the information if it if you were able to do that Yeah, and you know, there's so many other ways of communicating with the public to with texting and you know different devices that I think Supplement the whole principle of public access. No, I agree. So as I understand it There are five million people in Kabul. It was a city sort of built for a million So everybody's pretty close to each other and this would be a great way to share information And I think they have a municipal budget of 35 million. How does that compare with the cities? Much less than ours. We're probably at about 260 million. So and we're a very very small city I would say it's a small city with big ideas But our budget is bigger than Kabul's and that's a that's amazing Well, congratulations on that award from the Home Depot Foundation Yeah, so we were but Home Depot declared us the sustainable small city of the year and she've been awarded I was endeavor to be able to pick up that award with Jen Green our sustainability director At the National League of Cities and Towns Congress of Cities and it was definitely a proud moment I think for Burlington, but really for Vermont because I think as a state More than a lot of states on the issue of sustainability Well, I appreciate you coming tonight and if you were going to say anything about why CCTV and free speech is important to you. What would you say? Well, I think we need critical thinking and to really do that you need information that matters And I think you're able to bring that information to the people of Burlington and and I think in an Unadulterated way, and I always respect that. Thank you so much. Nice to see you. Thanks for stopping by It's great to see you so I want to thank everybody here for coming and and celebrating with us and I want to remind you that we appreciate the support of CCTV of The cable subscribers of CCTV and channel 17 and we want to encourage you to be a contributor to CCTV and a member and we're in the midst of our holiday party and also our holiday campaign So you can always go to cctv.org and donate We certainly would appreciate that because it will help us to guarantee the future of free speech And I think with that we're going to wrap up tonight's show But maybe let's just have a look at the audience and see what's going on out there and without further ado I'm going to thank you very much


Good morning, and happy September. It has been nine years ago when I started using tretinoin. That's the generic name for retin-a.  And today I think I'm just gonna be talking about two products. I'm gonna be talking about tretinoin and vitamin C. The tretinoin is the number one thing that has helped my skin over the last nine years. When I started using tretinoin I was almost 61 and now I am almost 70. And in your 60s, late 60s, a lot of times there's a lot of changes in your skin. I really believe that the tretinoin has helped keep my skin as supple as it can be. Today I don't have on any makeup. I have on mascara and lip gloss and I just washed my face with water a few hours ago because if I would put on my skincare it makes my skin look better. And I just want you to see this is how I am. This is how I always am. Usually I don't wear makeup. I just feel like if I'm talking about skin care I need to have my skin showing. And of course I don't have filters. I don't have anything. I just have an iPhone 7 and a bedroom and you get what you get. So anyway I'm gonna go ahead and get started on the agency. I am not, I don't have any discounts. I don't have any links or anything to the agency. But I heard Tamara from Tamara's Timeless Beauty speak about the agency and the future formula. Well I went ahead and I clicked on her link and I received my first bottle. And then I went ahead and let them send me the other one. And I'll tell you the prices in just a minute. And this was supposed to be a two month supply. I'm gonna talk about dollars and cents first. The first bottle was six dollars and eleven cents. And I started using it January 30th and I emptied it on March 30th. So I got two months use out of this. I did open it up and get everything out of it. I used a spatula and I used every bit of it. So I knew I wanted to try another bottle. And this larger bottle was $60 and some change. And this was supposed to be a two month supply. I started using this and I've used this religiously four times a week. Ever ever since I started back in January. I started this on March 31st and I emptied it on August the 19th. So that was four months and 19 days. I'm gonna put a link to Tamara's video where she talked in depth about this. And she does have a link to do the trial for the six dollars and some change. I don't know if it's gone up or not. But there's some pros and cons to both of them. Okay the advantages to the future formula. You don't have to go anywhere. You fill out a questionnaire online and then they ask you to submit some photos. And you get a online healthcare provider that you know does like the prescription comes up with your formula. Well in my formula it also had two ingredients for that were mainly used for dark spots. And I don't have dark spots. I would not buy that. I don't I will eventually I know I'll get some dark spots but I really didn't need that. So if you need it it's good that it has it in there. And there's also niacinamide in there. Also with the future formula they can start at a very weak strength of tretenoyan. I think it's 0.01 which is 10 times weaker than what I use on a four times a week. So that's another benefit. And then also the thing I thought was pretty cool is when you do one pump that is exactly what you need. So I wanted to tell you exactly how long it worked. You know how precise I am on some things. So I'm now I'm back to using my regular retin A that comes in the 45 gram tube. I get the prescription from my doctor. And then I go to GoodRx.com online and you just search for the medicine that you need. And I just put in retin A and there's drop-down boxes. And you can have say if you want the smaller that 20 gram tube the 45 gram tube is what I get. And then also the strength. So this was 0.1%. And today the least expensive price around here is $47.55. So I can use this for a whole year and it is just so much more cost-effective for me. Okay next month will be my anniversary of nine years of using vitamin C serum. And the two I've used is the timeless vitamin C plus E plus feruleic acid 20% or the skin diva vitamin C plus E plus feruleic acid 20%. I've also used the dermatology and it is 15%. These are like $25, $26 a piece and there's always a discount. I have some discount codes below but there's also discounts online. There's always mean if you kind of know ahead of time what you're going to be needing just start looking for a sale. I think that 25% is probably the most on skin diva and on timeless. I think it seems like about once a year they do 40 to 50% off. But what I always did before and I'm not telling you what to do this is what I have done. I always buy the small bottle the one ounce bottle like when timeless has a sale. I would buy instead of a large bottle I would buy two or three small bottles and I'd put two of them in the freezer and I never had a problem with them at all. A couple of days before I knew I was going to be running out I'd get them out the freezer and put them in my refrigerator but I haven't had any problems. I was thinking about if you want the 15% and you don't want to spend $69 you could use the 10% from timeless. They have a 10% and a 20% you'd be buying two bottles. I think they're $25.95 but again I mean I always I've got a $5 off but you can usually find something a lot better than that. But you could get a bottle like this. This is an old timeless bottle and you can buy these online. You can buy two of these bottles for $6 and something on Amazon. You could mix them both up in here get them mixed and put them back in smaller bottles and freeze one and you could have your 15%. Some people the fit the 20% is too strong but I thought that would be a good way for you all to save money. But I have some good news that makes me happy. I like glass. I mean this is a glass bottle this is the this is a skin diva it's a glass bottle it's a glass dropper. I keep almost all of my glass bottles and droppers and what I do you need to take this apart like on this hyaluronic acid I take this open this up you pop this part off you pop the rubber part out you've got four pieces to wash and just wash them in hot soapy water and I just usually add a little bit of vinegar I put it in a little bowl put a little bit of Dawn and some hot water and I just soak them in there in it and then I make sure they're dry and I mean good and dry I just put the rubber thing back into the cap and then you just work that back in there and you've got a bottle to use you can even use it for anything liquid anyway I do that because you never know if you're gonna need them or not and I have it in a little box in my closet timeless originally had glass bottles they had the dark glass bottles and then they came out with this pump and the very first batch of them did not work they leaked they came up with an airless pump and I use this too I just prefer the dropper I like being able to get exactly how much I want when I want it well they've come out with a glass bottle there's the same amount of product in this bottle as in this bottle they're both one ounces so if you buy the one ounce of the 1.7 there's a glass bottle and better than that I opened it up took out this stopper and I put in a dropper so now I have my glass bottle my glass dropper and I keep it in the refrigerator and I'll tell you I've been a little bit more of a slacker I use it I would say well I know I don't you didn't use it enough to use it up in my last one up in four months it was about five months so I'd say I probably missed a couple of days a week I think by using my red light mask my red light therapy mask I've been a little bit lax on a few products but not many well I had to order something else from timeless I wanted something and I used my five dollars off to get this they've come out with single use packets and I've tried it and it's a perfect amount and I just thought how wonderful for travel how wonderful if you're gonna be somebody's gonna be in the hospital or whatever but they came out and this is a month supply I keep mine in my regular refrigerator because I know how cold it gets and I have never lost to drop the vitamin C serum I've never had to throw any away it's supposed to be clear or milky and I have never even gotten it to yellow even a light yellow is okay but once it gets any darker than that it is no longer safe for use but I've had one in my refrigerator for five months used it up and didn't have a problem but again that's me and I liked the box and you know what I will use I don't buy stuff for like to organize I use boxes I have always done that and I've got had boxes in my drawers for years some of them I put fabric over some of them I haven't but I'm just not gonna buy plastic and when something like this works so I want to share that with you this is Sunday September 10th and yesterday my youngest turned 46 years old she has been so busy with her Sun Place College football and his school is about three three and a half hours away and I've been able to watch it on television I just absolutely love it last year he played about 80% of the time and this year they put him in the starting position and it's just been really exciting getting ready to have basketball season coming up my son's youngest son place college basketball and those games will be coming up soon and they have a lot of basketball games and I'm so excited so excited to watch him both this year it's been kind of busy around here and I'm going to try to do videos every other week but if you don't see me on the week that I'm supposed to be here just know that I'll be back in two weeks I don't want to film videos just to put one up oh if there's something that I think's important something that I find that I like that I think that could be a value to you I have never done a sponsored video not opposed to it I think it's wonderful but there's just been nothing that I ever want to be paid for to do or nothing that I ever want sent to me with any requirements like I have never filmed a video and had to send in to a company so they could approve it just because they sent me something that's why I bought the Omnilex mask myself because I didn't want to have to jump through any hoops I want to tell you the pros and I want to tell you the cons well I am not into redecorating it was unusual I bought that bedside table and the only reason I bought it is I needed a drawer for my CPAP apparatus stuff all the stuff you've got to have and I needed a larger top when I moved I bought this home in 1991 it was a hundred years old when I bought it that year that I bought it and what I brought with me were only things that I loved anything that wasn't important I gave away what I do seasonally or things that I've already owned I just and I'm not big into buying makeup and I just want to want to do something when I have something I want to talk about I want to bring it to you but I'm not good don't want to just come for no reason speaking of buying I did buy something I bought the today's special value QVC today special value I'll show you what was in it the CC plus nude glow I haven't tried it yet I the CC plus cream is too thick for me I just don't like the consistency of it anymore I know I just haven't bought anymore and I don't have any so I thought I'd try this and I'll let you know in a future video it also came with the it superhero mascara and one of these fabulous brushes I have I kept mine you know I told you I got rid of so many of them when I have started using Lisa J BK beauty brushes but this is that dual-ended and it's really a nice one and then it came with two lip glosses and I have this one on I don't know the shade if I can read it I'll put it on but these are both one of them's clear and one of them is this color and I like them they're not outstanding there I have used like the that tart maracuja that was outstanding the lip balm that they had I don't know if they still make it or not but these are good I've had this on probably two hours and it still feels really creamy I don't know if any of you are still here that you that were with me way way back when but one time I was on QBC's PR list and they sent me the whole collection of everything according to shade so I had blush I had foundation I had powder I had all these things and I would do giveaways and I can't tell you how many giveaways that I did with all of it I couldn't believe all the stuff they sent me and then I used to get the today's special value and they quit sending that to me and I don't know what I used to do was I used to receive it and I would give it to do a giveaway with it and then I would buy my own because I just like buying my own to the only PR I receive is from BK Beauty and there's another way so before I could say anymore I want to tell you well if you're still here you are good because only have the people watch my whole video so I like to do I'm gonna do my giveaways again at the end it's a giveaway today I got some wonderful PR I want to do a giveaway with it and it's it's beautiful and since this is a giveaway I will not be able to reply to any comments I will announce this on my next video whether that be September 24th or October 8th but your name will be announced and that's how you will know that you are a winner I close my giveaways in three days because I want the people who normally watch me to be the winners so that's how I do it and because of Mary glitzy fritzy I received the blessed palette and it's a treasure it's a treasure it's a palette that she designed she made up the colors and they sent it to me in PR well I received another PR package and it came with three eyeshadow palettes and I don't wear that much eye shadow and I think you might want to so the first giveaway we're gonna call Sydney Grace and at the end with the I will tell you I'll write it up here which one to say because what I do when I go through random comment picker the first choice the first person gets their first choice then the next person hopefully I mean they'll get so you you might want to put all three in the order that you want them is I guess what I'm wanting to say this is the raspberry kiss palette this is heaven on earth none of these shadows have been touched and this one is love's journey so there's three eyeshadow palettes from Sydney Grace and along with those palettes I'm gonna put in the it cosmetics superhero mascara and the it cosmetics dual-ended brush so that will be the Sydney Grace giveaway and the next one is gonna be the BK Beauty giveaway Lisa Jay came out with this bag that she designed that is really wonderful you can't buy it right now it'll be back in stock in October that it's really a brush cosmetic case and it zips up see how tall it is you can put all your brushes in and then it'll come all the way down and your brushes can stick up and it can set it on your vanity on your countertop if you're in the hotel room perfect place way to store your brushes there's little pockets on the side but also with this clever clever case I've included five lipsticks at least they gave me that I already owned and these are the shades of the lipstick I know you won't be able to see them but there's five of them and I love her formula and also in that I'm going to be giving away the false eyelashes and I tried one and they worked really well but I'm just not a false eyelash person I've just it's been good for me to wear mascara but the lashes are beautiful and they're sold on BK Beauty website this is a collaboration with Risa does makeup and she they did four different types of lashes and so that goes with and this will be called BK Beauty I'm gonna get through this eventually I promise and the last gift is a $100 e-gift card from me to you and it can be anywhere that I get can get a gift cards and I can also if you don't want an e-gift card I can do a deposit to your PayPal account all you have to do is put one of these words in your comments you don't have to be subscribed you don't have to like you don't have to do anything you just have to put at least one of these words in your comment the first is Sydney Grace that's for the eyeshadow palettes and the mascara and the brush the second you would put BK Beauty and the last one just put card and in the order that you want them and it is all good thank you all for being here with me I appreciate you and I will see you in my next video take care and I will announce the and in my gosh I can't believe it and what else but they won't I don't know why they put it in mine I'm gonna be talking about generic