good afternoon. I am very thankful to Professor Deepak Patak for initially giving me a chance to meet you in this occasion. I will just give you a small presentation for about 15-20 minutes. Then we will have interaction as to how you can contribute or how you can be a part of the activities of ISTE. My name is Ari Haran. I am from Indian Society for Technical Education. I started my teaching career in Chennai. I was an assistant professor in engineering college in Chennai for 15 years and from the year 1999 I took over as the projects coordinator and development coordinator in ISTE and I am in Delhi working for various national and international projects and I am also the editor of the newsletter and all the publications like journals and handbooks and other books. Let me start with this one, a small introduction about where we are in the country. Education shapes the destiny of a nation as you all know because you are all teachers and particularly the manpower which we are looking for. Why people are not coming in large number to the field of engineering education? That is a million dollar question we are trying to solve with the help of MHRD and AICTE. The quality of manpower in any country ultimately determines the sustainable well-being of its people and you all know it is a liberating force which fosters growth, social equality and technological progress and recently India due to the advancement of globalization and internationalization of education finding its own place in the international market especially for knowledge workers. So in order to keep technological advances in control and subservient to the needs of mankind engineering education and training requires reprisal and prompt corrective action. What are the major issues in technical education as of today? The growth demand for education throughout the life cycle. It should be a lifelong learning as you all know that you cannot stop saying that I finished my studies and that is all. Every day you have to update your knowledge in order to spread this to your students. Changes to higher education brought on by technological innovation. What we have learned before is not that today and some researchers they tell that what we learn when we enter into an engineering course will become obsolete when we come out of this course. Internationalization of higher education this is proved by many universities which are coming to India for MOUs and still many universities are trying to enter into MOU with major universities not only for knowledge sake but for number India's were large number of students. An access and equity where government plays a role because government wants everyone to have access and equity everyone should be treated as equal. Then accountability which is many people say which is missing as of today. Then differentiation of academic systems is a problem in the international education once if you finish your engineering education here cannot directly go and take up research or higher education in the western countries because this equality of degrees is not still there. We are working for that in that area and what are the major challenges in technical education. Challenges for technical education and the engineering profession have also horizon from technological and organizational changes and as I told internationalization of business. And due to the rapid increase of IT industry and biotechnology and science and technology there is some fundamental changes which are taking place. This is raised many questions such as to what extent the qualification education and training and employment of engineers need to be embraced in order to meet these challenges and requirements. So the impact of competition, technological change and microeconomic reform on employment you all know that we are facing the global recession period. Increasing part time casual and contract workers leads to the need for people to change jobs more often in a work life. There are heterogeneous views about the purpose of education including renewed focus on social and civic values. The application of new technology to education and training is gaining ground everywhere. Government of India wants to spend more money on training teachers in order to make the younger generation more knowledgeable. Knowledge society's main recommendation is to train teachers primarily. So one notices shifts in employment towards information workers away from traditional jobs and the need for on-the-job training in the workplaces. And these things have just introduced you and they will just skip all these slides because you all know about the Indian higher education scenario right now. And the present government has given promise and given about 3600 crores earmarked for technical vocational education and training as well. And they have upgraded many institutions to the level of national institutions and they have promised to give 10 central universities, upgraded many institutions to technical IITs, national level institutions, RECs have been already converted, 20 RECs have been changed the name to national institute of technologies and another 10 are coming. So M.H.R.D. is planning in a bigger way following the recommendations of knowledge commission. So to give you a small idea about how we are, where we are, number of universities in India has grown from 19 in 1947 to 378 in 2007 and colleges from 27 to 18000 and all. So we are already adding 5 to 16 universities and 300 colleges every year to our education system. This pertains not only to engineering colleges but the general colleges also are in the picture. So what I am trying to say is there is a tremendous growth in the field of education and many people say that recession will not affect two main areas mainly entertainment and education. There will not be any major effect in these two fields. So there is a galloping growth of institutes of higher learning that is also visible. So now right now we have about 367 universities and it is still increasing every month. This will give you a picture about the growth of higher education system in India. The enrollment rate in millions is increasing, has already increased. Universities are increasing, colleges like that they are in the upward trend only. The major aim of the education policy of the government in the post independence era has been to provide free and compulsory education to all children at least up to the primary and elementary stage. But then there is largely, there is a change in the shift, I mean shift in the policy that more and more importance is given to higher education as of today. There is a gap, this is always there. People say that industry, the needs of the industry is not fulfilled by the institutions. Always it is a question raised and we are trying to find solution for that every now and then. What I am trying to say is the gap needs to be bridged through exponentially increased investments in higher education. So basically in the field of technical education, we have lot of potential where we can tap it. Knowledge service including R&D, software development, IT enabled services are in the upward trend as I told you. And basically the world is now looking for India for the knowledge workers. That is my thing based on these three points. The central level of the technical education spectrum consist of AICTE, IITs, IIMs, then national universities and deemed to be universities and then NITs, the National Institute of Technical Teachers Training Institutes, Apprenticeship Training and Educational Consultants and all such major bodies have listed and of course we have tremendous amount of self-financing colleges and other institutions which are trying hard to train people. The key issues in technical and management education in the 11th plan would be a continued focus on increased intake capacity enhancement of quality which we are trying to achieve. Faculty development which has been given priority, optimization of resources through networking, the development of information technology education, improving quality and quantity of research and technologies, modernization development of curriculum, international benchmarking like we have an MBA in the field of technical education which now they have changed this national policy of accreditation to international policy. They are going to follow the Washington Accord which they have signed based on the recommendations of the Abbott which is going to come up from 1st April. So developing capacity in new and emerging technology areas, strategic planning and management of technical education system and informal sector development. In the case of informal sector development Ministry of Labour has year marked 1500 crores especially for the workers. Government of India is planning to start workers technical university in Ayurveda and they are trying to fix the venue I mean the state. This will come in the next academic year already work is in the progress. So to ensure quality in education the university grants commission identifies the universities and colleges with potential for excellence and they give money up to 1 crore for each and every university and special assistant programs would 40 lakhs to 100 lakhs being given. UGC is working hard to improve the quality and you all know about the Tech Hub program funded fully by World Bank and Tech Hub 2 is in the progress. Basically on vocational education now you must have read in the newspaper about the ministry has given 3700 crores year mark exclusively for vocational technical education and ISTE has been given the opportunity to frame out a framework for implementing to all this vocational education upliftment of vocational education with the help of IST and AICT we are working on it. And all these things various vocational education schemes that are available as they told you the World Bank assistant scheme is doing well and Tech Hub 3 has already started from knowledge commission report you can browse this from the internet and you can get more details about that. So I will skip a few slides and I will go back to the ISTE part. Indian society for technical education is a national professional non-profit making society of engineering educators as well as students of technical institutions registered under the societies of registration act of 1960. Association of principles of technical institution was transformed into Indian society for technical education in 1968 with the view to broaden its activities to advance the course of technical education. See in the year 1941 principles of all the engineering colleges they joined together and formed an association which is called association of principles of technical institutions and it went on up to 1967 and after independence they thought that there should be a body to monitor the quality intake and everything like your UGC especially for the engineering education. So AICTE was born and it was not initiated as an act of parliament that was done only in the year 1984. So ISTE is the mother of All India Council for technical education. The logo of AICTE the formation rules strategies everything was formed with the help of ISTE only. So the major objective of the ISTE is to assist and contribute in the production and development of top quality professional engineers and technicians needed by the industries and other organizations. Being the only national organization of educators in the field of engineering and technology, ISTE effectively contributes in various missions of the union government. The Ministry of Human Resource Development, AICTE, Department of Science and Technology Ministry of Information Technology, State Governments are all well associated with the ISTE programs related to technical education. Remember this is only a professional body. We don't give certificates we don't conduct courses exclusively. We help institutions to conduct courses. We fund the institutions to run the courses with the help of Government of India. We as such don't have any courses. So what are the main objectives of ISTE? Formulate the general goals and responsibilities of technical education modify curriculum educational process to changing conditions develop effective teachers and educational administrators improve instructional methods and practices and administrative usages. Then enhance professional ideas and standards foster research as complementary to teacher cultivate fraternal spirit amongst the teachers, administrators, industrialists and professionals bring about effective linkage between technical institutions, industry and society and it has got a couple of awards also which I will be explaining to you. Award, honorary fellowships, awards and prizes for furthering the objectives of technical education to encourage teachers to be in the field of engineering education. So the structure is like this. There is an executive council at a national level. No one is the owner of this ISTE every year we elect from different parts of the country and executive council is elected by the members of ISTE they form the executive council out of the executive council members elected they select the office bearers like president vice president secretary and we run the show for 3 years and again there will be election and new faces will come. It is purely run based on the membership fees that we collect from teachers and for all the projects we get funded from government and various other funding agencies. As I initially told you we are not a profit making organization we are a service organization for the development of teachers and engineering education. We have got 63,250 teachers as members 195,000 students as members, student members and 80 institutional members. We have around 3,200 institutions like both engineering institutions as well as political institutions out of that only 1680 institutional members we have and 957 faculty chapters you may if you have 50 members in one institutions you can form a chapter and you can have your own office bearers for the chapters like that we have 957 faculty chapters throughout the country and likewise instead of I mean I told you if you have only 25 members I am sorry if you have only 25 members you can form a faculty chapter and if you have 50 student members you can form a student chapter. We have about 995 student chapters as of today. The membership fee is a very meager amount of 250 rupees per annum for teachers and 120 rupees for 4 years for students even a cost of coke will not do if you go to the restaurant and this that is why I said we are not profit making in return you may ask what will you give if you become a member you are entitled to participate in all the workshops and training programs conducted through IST preference will be given for members and you will get a bi-monthly newsletter which will give you information about what is happening in the field of technical education in the country and if you buy our publications you will get around 20 to 25 percent discount. Then what are the major activities of ISTE? Curriculum development updating which we regularly do every 5 years and we recommend to AICT. The AICT recommendations broad guidelines of various curriculum is formed or is framed by IST only with all the experts AICT is sponsored short term training programs which in short called STTPs for engineering teachers and practicing professionals which is fully funded by MHRD through AICT. Preparation of course materials, teacher manuals and other institutional resource materials under ISTE learning materials project which is fully funded by Swiss Development Corporation. Preparation of learning materials for working professional is selected in selected areas under ISTE WPLP working professional learning project which is also funded by MHRD AICT. Special short term programs for teachers, industries and other professional organization time to time we give money for them to organize. Then we conduct seminars, workshops, conferences on topics of relevance of technical education. We means institutions conduct we give money to them to conduct. Information technology oriented programs conduct of entrepreneurship awareness camp for young teachers and students. Department of Science and Technology has given the responsibility to us to conduct various camps like what we conduct this STTP program we also conduct this entrepreneurship development program fully funded by DST. Every year we conduct around 200 programs throughout the country for both teachers and as well as for students. Then project formulation, implementation and appraisal they come to us for help we will give them help with the experts which we have. Then preparation of directories on technical education which facilities and expertise. We compile the addresses of all the engineering institutions and they have the places from where in which you can get travel grants, research grants, various other governmental agencies where in which you can apply for other programs all we compile. Then publication of a bi-monthly ISTE newsletter publication of a quarterly Indian Journal of Technical Education for last 32 years we have been publishing this. Then ISTE handbook as I told you then learning materials and publication of various monograms. See this learning materials was restricted only to the field of electronics and computer science under the SDC project. Now they said this can be extended to other faculties as well. Then what are the major aims and objectives major aim of the ISTE is to help the students in personality development, faculty members in career development so as to produce high quality professionals needed by the institutions, industries and other organizations at national and international level. Then membership are classified into five different categories honorary fellowship this we identify the major stalwarts of engineering education we honor them no fees for that it is a honor for them and life membership you can become a life member by paying a fees of 2050 once and you become a life member and you will give you a plastic card like what the banks are giving and with that you can have you can enjoy the facilities of ISTE activities. Then annual membership for about 250 rupees then student membership for 120 rupees for 4 years then institutional membership if your institutional is a member of ISTE they have to pay 25,000 rupees once then you will become an institutional member and IIT Mumbai is one of the earlier institutional members they say way back in 20 years before they have become members. This is about the membership graph that we have as of today and annual membership then life members then student members. Then we conduct national convention of for students every year we conduct a national convention where all the students are invited to a particular place with the help of sponsorship from industries we conduct this has been started only before last year 2001 only we have started this so about 1000 students will from different institutions will come and take part in various competitions to encourage them we give them awards prizes and everything it is a grand get together for all the students of technical education which will provide an opportunity for the students to meet each other then annual convention where teachers meet this is conducted in the month of December every year it is completely sponsored by state governments and MHRD and more than 1000 teachers will come and one theme will be selected according to the current requirements people will come and present papers they discuss this activity will be there for 3 days you can meet people experts professors Nobel laureates and things like that. Various other business meetings in the society will also be conducted during the annual convention. Then we have 15 sections following it up each section suppose if you are in Maharashtra Maharashtra and Goa section you have to approach the office members you can become an institution member or you can become a member forwarded through them and you can be a representative you may ask why this is required this is required because from each section based on the number of teachers present for every 1500 members one member will be elected for the Executive Council so they form ISTE suppose you have about 10,000 members in Maharashtra so you have divided by 1500 you have that many members which you will elect teachers will elect out of this 10,000 people 1% or 10% will be elected or 8% will be elected they will go to Delhi they will form the team they will run the show it is purely democratic so the national level as I already told you we have conducted so many summer schools and winter schools which we are popular for and conducted trained around 56,000 teachers in engineering college and 26,000 around 26,000 in polytechnics purely funded by Machadi in AICT we have a continued education program where we have produced various models and now we have stopped this because we are having linkage with all the IIT's where they are producing with the help of this CEDP programs we are disseminating the information produced by them then every year we prepare the model syllabus as I told you curriculum development we do this at the national level we conduct this awareness crams training manuals bi-monthly newsletter conferences and we have a scheme called professional visiting professor scheme where a new engineering college which are expecting or who wants services of an experienced professor we pay them TADA and everything local hospitality to be borne by the institution and all their expenses will be borne by the ISTE and you have to apply for ISTE for becoming a visiting professor for various institutions. In international collaboration we have represented UNESCO and AWA-CEA we have participated in SCACP with the Canada project Canada India Institutional Cooperation project then industry institutional linkage project from Canada then commonwealth program association of continuing education program and all this we have participated and still we are a member and as I told you World Bank project impact we have produced about 45 learning materials under World Bank and SDC and DOE then learning material project which is still there which is continuing right now and then we are the member of World Federation of Association of Colleges and Polytechnics and we have collaboration with International Federation for Engineering Education Societies which is a new society formed 2 years before which has come out from association American Society for Engineering Education that is there from 1979 so we are a member of that one and they are bringing out a journal called Journal of Engineering Education that JEE is going to complete under the year next year so they thought that ISTE should involve and they have come out with a solution saying that this can be obtained say for a meager amount of 325 rupees if you are a member of ISTE if you are a non-member if you want to directly get the 4 issues of JEE you have to pay 5000 rupees say 100 dollars you have to pay but then they have given an opportunity for ISTE members if you want to subscribe you can subscribe for 325 rupees for 4 issues inclusive of all the charges of posting and everything so we have entered into an MOU with them and they have given and we are printing here and ISTE has been given the responsibility to publish this for this whole Asia Pacific region and I am the editor for Asia Pacific region and if you have any queries you can write to me then what are the future we are planning for the future and we have got certain goals we would like to have the distant education mode of technical education through E-learning now professor Patak is working very hard to put through this E-content through open source and he is trying his level best to get the dissemination the contents disseminate through all the technical teachers and ISTE will definitely give him full support in all his endeavors and we have now in the same we have got the same goal and we will definitely cooperate with professor Patak and IIT CEP to achieve this goal so development of informal technical education as I told you we are going to have the workers technical university in Hyderabad which we are also a part of it and we are going to establish a technical educational national staff college we don't have we engineers we don't have an academic staff college like UGC is having so we have already given a proposal to city and still it is pending it has to be cleared from MHRD for funds to create a national database on technical education system which we don't have suppose you want to know how many civil engineers are there in the country maybe you have to tell only approximate figures but then we are planning to have a database with us suppose some huge project is going to be there then we can give the database to various states to help them so carrier planning, personality development for students and faculty development for teachers enhance number of short term training program for technical teachers now right now we are conducting around 400 programs per annum which we are going to increase this to 1000 that is our aim in the near future so develop the mechanism for periodic professional refinement of faculty members how whatever you do there is a huge cry saying that it is not sufficient so how to do this so we will have to work out on that and find out so about I told you about the visiting professor scheme it is all available in our net you can you can take it then this publication you will get free of cost if you are a member 6 issues of newsletter and it is already appreciated by all the members and they are looking forward for all this and the e form of this one is in the net you can get it then IJTE engine journal of technical education the last 33 years we have been publishing this and the editor of this journal and you can send the papers research paper or refer it and collected paper or a general article on a pedagogy of technical in the field of technical education you can send it to me and we will send this to a team of experts blind for blind review and if it is a publication standard if it meets the publication standard we will publish that in the journal then I told you about the IST handbook it contains lot of information and it is the unique kind where you do not have this type of handbook especially for technical education I do not think there is any publication of this sort then CICP publication we are only printing that we are not doing anything the articles are written by the Canadians then students primer every 3 years we collect articles from expert teachers saying that how the students behave in the class about ragging about attendance how to pass the examination how to face the examination how to face the interview relating to all the students affairs we collect articles from experts and we publish this student primer and it is sent free for all the students chapters we do not sell this and it is our website address you can take this and it every fortnight we update this then as I told you we to encourage teachers and students number of awards about 30 awards for students and about 27 awards for teachers both national and regional level we invite applications from students and teachers we scrutinize this with the help of experts and the award committee will select the award winners and during the annual convention of students and teachers it will be awarded to the award winners so as I told you about the learning materials project if you are really interested in writing a book we encourage you we publish this through leading publishers in the country and you will be given royalty based on the number of copies sold for the initial cast you will be given some amount for typing another work if you are really interested straight away write to me send an application you will take up that issue then this working professional learning project if you want to write a monograph or working professionals people who are in the industry you are welcome send the application to me we will scrutinize and we will get back to you then IET project like this content development IET also wanted ISTE to help we have entered that in the month of July 2005 but unfortunately that project is not taking up because of their internal problems but still that MOU is on then this Indo-UK REC project the British council has given funds for the teachers for exchange programs teachers from India will go there and spend about 2 years there teachers from UK come here this is exclusively for the 1990s it was there in the year 1995 to 2002 so the British council gave ISTE a chance to evaluate the performance of that entire Indo-UK REC project and the chairman of this project was Deep Agarwal who is the UGC I mean this UPSC chairman right now and I had an opportunity to work within to evaluate this project and we have submitted the report to them then about this technical vocational education training program AICT is very keen and it is going to come up in a large way big way there is a meeting on Friday at Delhi and huge amount of money is going to be given for ISTE and we have given a proposal like occupational training centers of ISTE how it can be implemented and things like that funding will come from a much RDP only once it is finalized we will put in the net and you can approaches for setting up of an occupational training center then entrepreneurship training both for teachers and students as I told you this DST is giving funds and we are the national coordinating agency for the entrepreneurship training centers if you want to start an entrepreneurship sell also you can write to us we will help you this is basically for teachers for students and they want to certify ISTE to certify the courses conducted by various EDP cells which we are working out because there are some copyright issues in that one IPR issues in that one and that will be solved and we are into that project also other projects which we are interested in as I told you that ASW American Society for Engineering Education then TAIFAC mission you know about TAIFAC they are giving funds to start the reality core subjects TAIFAC core project so we are the agency or we are the one of the agencies to identify the experts for the TAIFAC core mission project and whatever TAIFAC projects wherever TAIFAC project is implemented ISTE will give helping hand to make them a big success one of them is IIT Mumbai over Pathak Sab's E outreach project we are playing a small role where the school played in Ramayana we are also playing a small role in Pathak's projects and we have got this MHRD TVE project which is also coming into a good shape and another one is the IUCEE India project we are the India partners Indo-US continuing education as Indo-US Center for Engineering Education so they conduct programs like what we do in ISTE but then slightly different it is fully funded by two great people Deshpande and Infosys Narayan Murthy last year they conducted this program 580 teachers were trained for 27 programs about for about a month one and a half month it was conducted fully residential program as a fully residential program in Infosys Mysore campus this year also we have got is the second one which is going to be conducted from this 20th to July 15th or so if you are interested you go to that website and you can apply and if you have any difficulty and the coordinator for the India India mission you can write to me we will take up with that issue last time it was 2000 rupees for a course this time it is 5000 rupees for a course you can go through the various course details what are the titles if you are interested apply in that one we will facilitate and we will help you to get trained through this but only difference is the person who is going to come and give you give lecture and conduct the class will come from US only US experts will come some Indians who have settled there will also come there last time about 56 US experts came to Infosys and gave lecture for about one week course 27 courses were conducted this year also we have if you have any interest write to me we will do it then we are planning to construct a guest house in IIT I mean we are in the IIT Bombay campus only they have given land free of cost to us and our building is built with the help of Canadian funds and M.H.R.D funds IIT Delhi sorry IIT Delhi and the building was constructed with the help of M.H.R.D fundings and Canadian fundings now we are planning to construct a guest house this will be exclusively used for teachers who come for Delhi for various business purposes they are finding it difficult to get the guest house accommodation and things like that about 50 rooms will be there with the seminar hall and all the facilities which is going to take up in another 2-3 months because we have lot of difficulties with MCD and all those we will not pay any single pie to anybody and we will not grease the palms of anybody and that is our policy and with normal speed it took 3 years for us to get the permission from MCD and they have already given permission and funds are with us various institutions have given we have collected more than 1 crore exclusively for this building fund and this guest house construction project is for about 3.5 crores so that all the teachers in the country can go if it is available they will be given priority at a very minimum rate for the operation expenses only. That is our next project and the institutions from the south major about tax we have collected from institutions from the south exclusive from self-enhancing people they are ready to give and they are very generous to give this some of the pictures I would like to show these are all the plan that we are planning to from the architect the existing building and the building plans and thank you very much for your patience and if you have any questions as to how to approach for various projects we will have a discussion for another 10 minutes or so


What we do here is we'll make sure that everybody's trained for deployments, ready to go on TDWISE, and daily functions on this base. So when we take these personnel to go shoot these weapons, what we're making sure is one that they know how to use these weapons systems safely and efficiently. So they will know how to take these weapons systems apart, look for parts that are broken, missing, or worn, put the weapons systems back together, and when they're out there they'll actually know how to fire this weapon system. These weapons systems are as accurate as the shooter.


Hello, and welcome to our session. My name is Vinicius Napolinario, and I'm a Senior Cloud Advocate at Microsoft. I'm Thomas Maurer, Senior Program Manager for Azure Hybrid. All right. You're going to hear more from Thomas in the second part of this session. But now, I wanted to take you through the journey of modernizing your application, where and how you need it. Now, you might have heard about Azure Migrate, and Azure Migrate provide a lot of options for migrating applications from on-premises into Azure. You have a few options, for example, for applications that are sitting in an old server running on VMware, running on Hyper-V, or even running in another Cloud, for example. You can take the application sitting on that VM, and just move to a VM in Azure. Now, when you do that, you're not changing any operations practices that you might have. You're just taking advantage of the platform services that Azure provide. You have other options. You can move your application to a Windows container and then you can modernize that application by putting it on Azure Container Instance, Azure App Service, or Azure Kubernetes Service, and then take advantage of all of what the platform has to offer. You can even put the application side-by-side with new applications that are being developed for containers and Kubernetes. With that said, let's take a look at the demo and how to do that for your application. All right. Here is my application running on-premises. You can see that I can click around. The application is running fine. I can see the content of my application, but this is running on an old server. What I want to do is I want to modernize this with Windows Containers. I'm going to switch to Adcontronization on Azure Migrate, and this is the tool that is going to extract the application from that server and put it in a Windows Container. This is a ASP.NET web application. I'm going to target Azure Kubernetes Service, but I could target even Azure App Service. I'm going to click Continue. I'm going to go through the prerequisites for my environment. I'm going to log into Azure, and I can select what is the tenant I want to use, and then on that tenant, what is the subscription I want to use. Here is the fun part where we're going to start discovering the application. I'm going to select what is the server I want to target, what is the username and password to talk to that server, the password, I'm going to validate, click Continue. Next, we are going to look at the application itself. Here is the full website that I have, and I can select what is the name of the container image that I'm going to create, and I can select even what is the application configuration, what are the additional folders that I might want to put in the image, and I'm going to continue to look at the Azure Container registry where my application is going to be hosted as a Windows Container image. We're not going to do that, so just so you know what the process looks like, we're going to build the container image on an Azure Container registry, and from there you can deploy whatever you want. You could deploy on-premises, you could deploy to Azure, it's your choice. Next, what Azure Migrate will do here, but we are not going to go through because I have this deployed already is you're going to provide the deployment specifications for your YAML file on Azure Kubernetes Service, and then finally deploy the application into Azure Kubernetes Service or the application to run there. Now, what I'm going to do is I'm going to switch to Azure Portal and show that I have a lot of resources here already created by Azure Migrate, and the first one I want to show is the Azure Container Registry. I'm going to click here, I'm going to click the repositories, and you can see that I have my container image here already, and this is the version one of my application that I created with the Azure Migrate. The cool thing again, like I said, you can deploy from whatever you want, to whatever you want from Azure Container Registry. For example, I have it running on a Azure Container Instance, and an Azure Container Instance is great if your application is more like an immutable application. It's not going to scale up or down, you're not going to change the application, you just want the application to run in the Cloud. You can see that I have the IP address of the application, and if I click here, this is my application running on Azure Container Instance. It runs exactly the same as it was running on-premises, I can click the links over here, and I can see the content of my application, everything is working exactly as it was, but now I'm in the Cloud. I can also deploy to App Services, and App Service is great for web applications where you want to have more control about this scale, control about AP testing options, and those things. Now, again, this is exactly the same application, so if I go to this URL, you can see that I have exactly the same content that I had on-premises. Now, if you need even more flexibility, you have Azure Kubernetes Service, and with Azure Kubernetes Service, what you have is you have a managed Kubernetes Service where you don't have to take care about infrastructure, you want to take care about the nodes and the application itself. Let me show you the application here up and running, I have the workloads, you can see that I have my IIS sample. If I click the services, you can see that I have the service of my application with the IP address, so if I go over here, this is the application now running exactly the same way, but with all the flexibility of a Kubernetes platform. All right. Now, let me hand off to Thomas to talk about the options of running Azure Kubernetes Service either in the Cloud or on-premises. Thank you, Vinicius. The next step in our application modernization journey is to provide developers with a platform where they can run their Windows and Linux containerized applications, and nothing better for that than our Azure Kubernetes Service. The Azure Kubernetes Service is a host of Kubernetes Service, which allows you to run Kubernetes apps on top of it. It can run in one of our Azure regions, or it can run on-premises or edge locations using the AKS hybrid deployment options together with the Azure Arc integration. Let's have a quick look. Here I'm in the Azure portal and I can see here, I have two Kubernetes clusters or AKS clusters deployed. The first one is running in one of our Azure regions, and the second one is a hybrid deployed one running on-premises on Windows Server or Azure Stack HCI, together with Azure Arc integration. Both of these clusters can host Windows containers as well as Linux containers. To create a new AKS cluster, it's fairly simple. We can use the Azure portal, we can use the CLI, PowerShell, APIs, or other management tools to do that. On-premises, we can even use existing management tools we are all familiar with. If you are managing Windows Server, you're probably already familiar with Windows Admin Center, which allows me to manage Windows Servers, Windows Server clusters, and even Azure Stack HCI clusters. We can also manage AKS running on top of these. Let's have a quick look here on how I can manage my Kubernetes cluster on top of that. Here I can see that I already have installed the AKS Hybrid on top of Windows Server. You can also see here I created a workload cluster in the Kubernetes cluster where I can deploy my containerized apps on. I can also easily create a new cluster directly from Windows Admin Center. But I want to show you a new experience we just showed you at Microsoft Ignite. You can now also deploy and provision new AKS clusters running on-premises and at the edge directly from the Azure portal or using the Azure CLI or ARM templates. For that, you would just create a new cluster here. Then you can see here you get a very familiar experience in the way that you could deploy a AKS cluster in Azure. As all of these options, as I mentioned, we support Windows and Linux node pools here. Your applications can run Windows containers and Linux containers side by side. Now, let's have a look at the management experience for both of these types of Kubernetes clusters. This is the Kubernetes cluster, the AKS cluster running in one of our Azure regions. One thing I did here is I use GitOps to deploy an application to that cluster. Now, GitOps stores the application and the configuration of this application in a Git repository. This can be hosted on GitHub or a private Git repo, whatever you prefer, and then the Azure Arc integration, the Arc agent will basically go out and get that configuration and make sure that this application is actually deployed, and it will also check if there are changes to this application. If I now go to our AKS hybrid deployment, so you can see here immediately that we have a very similar management experiences, and also that I have GitOps integration with that AKS hybrid cluster as well. What you can see here is I have basically deployed the same application here. Again, in this case, the Azure Arc agent is pulling the changes from that application. Let's have a quick look at the application itself. Here we have the deployed applications. I took all my web design skills to design these. Now, on the left side, you can actually see that I have deployed this application on a AKS cluster in Azure using a public IP address so users can access it. On the right side, you can see the same application running on our AKS hybrid deployment running on premises on Windows Server or Azure Stack HCI, and using a private IP address. Both of these applications look exactly the same, but we can see here that Tailwind Trader did a mistake on this in their writing, or they should basically update their website. Let's have a look on how we can do that, and let's go to that Git repo where the application is stored. Here is the Git repo where we actually stored the application configuration. You can see here which containers I'm actually running from which repository and how much replicas I'm running, and then you can see here we also have the message here. Let's change that and update that to 2022. I'm going to do that, and usually a developer would do this using their favorite development tools such as Visual Studio or Visual Studio Code, for example, and then you would obviously not directly do that to the main branch as I do that right now, but it choose another branch and do a approval step and a merge process in that case. But for now, let's do that change to the repo, and let's go back to the application and see if it's updated. Let's refresh the application running on Azure first, and you can see here it is already up to date now, and now let's refresh the application which we run on-premises on our AKS Hybrid deployment and hit refresh on that, and you can see here also this application running is now refreshed as well. The GitOps integration into Azure, and especially with our Azure Kubernetes service and our AKS Hybrid deployment options using Azure Arc, allows you to manage applications and Kubernetes clusters directly from a single control plane. Let's have a quick look on the AKS Hybrid architecture, which allows you to run our Azure Kubernetes service on-premises and at the edge. Now, for that, you choose one of our validated hardware solutions for Azure Stack HCI or you use Windows Server, and that allows you to basically run your Windows and Linux VMs with your traditional applications. But with our AKS Hybrid deployment options, you can also now run your containerized applications running Linux and Windows containers, as well as even our Arc-enabled services. This allows you to run past services from Azure on-premises or at the edge, and that helps you to build and run your Cloud-native applications, and all of that managed through Azure Arc. So if you want to learn more about Windows containers, Azure Kubernetes service, and our AKS Hybrid deployment options, check out the following links.


What's up everyone, Tate down here, welcome back to another video. Today I'm extremely excited because we're going to be talking about my predictions for the WWE Hall of Fame for 2024. Let's get right into this. So I make these videos every year on who I predict is going to be inducted into the Hall of Fame each year. Last year, the only one that I got right was Ray Mysterio, which I was extremely happy that I finally got somebody rights and got one of my predictions rights. Up first, we have a big name and that is John Cena. John Cena made his debut in 2002. For years, he was the face of WWE. He has the most world championship reigns tied with Ric Flair, which is just an awesome record on its own. He is a five time United States champion, a two time WWE tag team champion, a two time Royal Rumble winner, a one time Money in the Bank winner, and a 16 time world champion. Thirteen of those times was for the WWE championship, and he is a three time World Heavyweight Champion as well. He's been in a lot of rivalries over the years, including Brock Lesnar, AJ Styles, Randy Orton, Batista and even The Rock. Given that the leader of the C-Nation has been a huge part of the WWE for years and years, there's no question that he's definitely going to be going into the Hall of Fame some year and hopefully he will be going in in 2024 because over the past couple years, he's been making a lot of less and less appearances in the WWE. Do I think he's going to be hanging up the boots? Absolutely not. But I think it's time that he goes in the Hall of Fame because he definitely deserves it. But I think he's going to be going in the Hall of Fame on his own term, much like The Rock and Batista who have been given access to go in whenever they want because they're so busy with movie roles that hopefully Sina will get the same thing, which is whenever he's ready to hang up the boots and whenever he is ready to go in the Hall of Fame, all he has to do is ask and he will go in and he definitely deserves to do so. Next on my list is Umaga. His first stint with WWE was in 2002, teaming with his cousin, Rosie, as part of 3 minute warning. He was released in 2003, but returned in April 2006 as Umaga and went undefeated until January 2007. The following month, he won the Intercontinental Championship for the first time and won it for the second time in July of 2007. He also appeared in The Battle of the Billionaires at WrestleMania 23, representing Mr. McMahon. Unfortunately, he was released from the WWE in 2009 and passed away shortly after that. Next up, we have Michelle McCool. She joined WWE in 2004 and at the Great American Bash in 2008, she became the first WWE Divas Champion. At the Bash in 2009, she won the WWE Women's Championship being the first to have hold both titles. In 2010, she unified both titles, becoming the first and only WWE Unified Divas Champion. Overall, she was a four-time champion. She retired in 2011, but also appeared, she retired in 2011, but has appeared in a match at WWE Evolution as the 2018, 2022, and 2023 Royal Rumbles as well. Next up, we have one of my favorites, Finley. Finley competed in WCW from 1996 to 2000, then in WWE from 2005 to 2010. In 1998, Finley beat Booker T for the WCW Television Championship. After joining WWE, he cost Bobby Lashley his unbeaten streak by interfering with Lashley's match against JBL. Later, he joined William Regal as members of the WCW Championship. Finley beat the court's biggest rival, Bobby Lashley, for Lashley's United States Championship. Next up, we have Dean Malenko. He is known for his work in WCW, ECW, and WWE. Although he never won a World Championship, he has won 11 titles across all three brands. He was a two-time ECW Television Champion, a one-time ECW Tag Team Champion with Chris Benoit, a four-time ECW Television Champion, a one-time ECW Tag Team Champion with Chris Benoit, a four-time WCW Cruiserweight Champion, a one-time WCW United States Champion, a one-time WCW Tag Team Champion with Chris Benoit, and a two-time WWE Lightweight Champion. He worked for WWE Backstage for years, and is currently an executive producer for AEW. Next up, we have Sabu. Sabu is one of my favorite ECW originals. He was so extreme, and that's what made me love him so much. He was known for his hardcore style wrestling, which he thrived for in ECW. During his time in ECW, he became a two-time ECW World Heavyweight Champion, a one-time ECW Television Champion, a one-time ECW Television Champion, WCW FTW Champion, and a three-time ECW Tag Team Champion as well. Once with Taz, and two times with RVD. He became a fixture in ECW and had some of the best hardcore matches ever for ECW and all of wrestling. He is definitely one of my favorites, and I'm really excited, and hopefully one day he will definitely be in the WWE Hall of Fame. And finally on my list, we have Goldust. He has had multiple 10 years with WWE from 1995 to 2018. Between WWE and WCW, he has won 23 championships in total. He is a two-time WCW United States Champion, a one-time WCW Six Man Tag Team Champion, and a two-time WCW Tag Team Champion. He is a three-time WWE Intercontinental Champion, a nine-time WWE Hardcore Champion, a one-time WWE World Tag Team Champion, and a two-time WWE Tag Team Champion. Throughout the years, he has evolved his character and his face paints, and he definitely became a really odd character in the WWE. While wrestling in AEW as Dustin Rhodes, he did announce that by 2024 he was going to be hanging up the boots and retiring, so hopefully he will be going in the WWE Hall of Fame next year because he definitely deserves it with how long he was part of WWE, but everything that he also did behind the scenes with the WWE and in wrestling in general and definitely is a huge part of the Rhodes family. Comment down below who you believe is going to be going in the WWE Hall of Fame this year. Do you think any of my predictions are going to come true? I really hope that WWE is going to be inducting some of these, but who knows with WWE, and I don't know who else they might pick, but I'm definitely excited for this year's Hall of Fame. Comment down below if you agree with any of these or who you think is going to be inducted this year. So you guys in the next video, please take care. Peace.


Ychydig yn y mod ychydig, mae y bod nhw wedi hynny... .. ychydig yn yw roi. Dwi'n rhaid i'r bobl! mae'n cwestiwn ymwneud? Mae'r cyffredin yn ymherreg fel y cywir yw ymherreg, rai hwn yn arddangos cymryd oherwydd y llungellig. Oherwydd, byddai'n bwysig yn gweithio, a p Nextiaid eithaf. Yn gyfathio, mae hynny sy'n bwysig yw ein sgol i'r rai hwnnw, ond yw eithaf, mae'n rai ffraeg i am frun, mae hi'r ffradig hwnnw, mae'n sgol i'r pwysig yma, mae raddol yn eu ddwylliant! Iwn, mae'n gweithio'n debyg o'r smiles y bwysig fan'r drws. Iwn d expressive. Mi yw'r ffocws. Mae'r ffan yw ddim chi'n dechrau gyda'i ble chyfnodd, i chi'n gwneud ymddangos, i chi'n gwneud hyn teithio'r ymddangos, ac efallai'n gwneud hynny'n gwybod gyda'r club. Fe yna'n gyfreithio a llwysgol at y mewn gw Secondly, ysgrifenni gyda'r fan yn gwneud hynny. Mae'n dda chi'n gwneud hynny a chymreithio ymddangos. Cwylwch chi yn rhoi ei wneud a chyfnodd ar gyfer amgylcheddau. Felly, gallwn ei wneud o'r fflau'r oeddwn yn y dda. Mae'n gwybod i'n ffordd o'r awr. Felly, ni'n dweud i'n ddwy'r awr o'r ffordd. Rwy'n gwybod i'n ffordd o'r ffordd o'n ddwy'r awr, mae'n ddwy'r awr o'r awr o'r awr o'r awr o'r awr, mae'n ddwy'r awr o'r awr o'r awr o'r awr o'r awr o'r awr o'r awr, Mae'n fawr o'r ddweud o'i gael, ac mae'n dweud bod y gallu cyffredinol yn gafodd, felly mae'n gweithio i'w ddweud o'r cwestiynau i'r cwestiynau, ac mae'n gweithio i'r clwp, yn gweithio i'r ddaeth, ac yn gweithio i'r ddweud o'r cyffredinol. Yn gweithio, mae'n ddweud o'r ddweud o'r ddweud o'r website. Mae'n ddweud o'r clwp yn ymgyrch yn y ddechrau, ac yn y ddweud, mae'r ddat judged yno arnynt. I wnaetham weithio i'r gweithio ond rydym yn전 oed ac mae'r gwlaeth yn fwycau, ond pusho iawn cael ffgffredinol yn y ddechrau. Mae'n 其mmaxol fy wir yn y cwestiynau wgwynt ag siarad内 yn ei import. Rhaid i rotate o'r gweithio i'r newidau a wahanol yn ôl neu hefyd yn gofyn ar gyfl Children oherwydd mae na hyn didd wagud i gwahanol ond y cwestiynau, felly mae'n fawr bleín yn mwyg mewnργol hyn, mae wedi'i eich iddi wnaen dropsi Cymru complaintswr yma. yn y stadion. Felly, mae'n gwybod, yma, i'n gwneud hynny'n ddwy'r gwymau, a'r ddysgu'r wyth i'r hyn o'r hwnnw, os iddyn nhw? Felly yma, ond mae'r ddweud yn y tyfnod o'r hyn yn y cyfarfod yma, â'r ffordd yn y ffordd yma, ac mae'r ymlwanydd yna yn bod nhw eich ôl. Mae'r ystod y tu�r yn dweud at wrth yr hyn. Mae'r olffiad yn y ffordd. Mae'n gyrdyn ni'n mynd ei rhoi'r fwyaf sono. Mae'r gwylo'n boryd? Mae'r ffordd eich rameil yna yn gwybod ddysgrifio ar y club. Rwy'n teimlo, gan credu a chyfodd honni y bydd maen nhw'n amdannu usio. ac mae'n gweithio i felwyr yn cael ei fod yn gwneud i chi'n fwy o'r hyffordd, ac oedd yn fawr o'r ffrifau o'r newydd o'r gweithio. Felly mae'n gwneud oherwydd, mae'n ddiddordeb o'n ddiddordeb o'r ffalu, ond mae'n cael ei ddiddordeb o'r ddiddordeb o'r ddiddordeb o'r ffrifau. Mae'n meddwl a'r profiad o'r ffrifau o'n meddwl, a wnaeth yng Nghymru'n gwneud o'r ddiddordeb o'r ddiddordeb o'r cyffredin. So, we'r Charleston, then my staff are doing games, and the corey, and then we lost games. We had that waffad Tabachell in the middle of it. So it has been a little bit of frustration, and people start to feel a bit down. And the ground is really the one thing that we're all clinging to is the beating of positivity. Ond rwy'n creu bod mynd i'n gweithio… Roedd y club wedi'i cael ei gydig yn fwy o gweithio ar gyfer gweithio. Ac mae'n gweithio'r problemau wedi'i cael ei gweithio yn ymwyaf. Roedd yn ymwyaf i'r anffodus, ac mae'n gweithio'n cael ei gweithio, mae'n cael ei gweithio'n cael ei gweithio'n gweithio. Ac mae'n rhaid i chi? Mae'r gweithio'r gweithio'r gweithio'n gweithio, Yn y bwysig o'r ddechrau gael y bydd y gynhyrch o'r cyflwyno. O'r cyflwyno o'r deilio, mae oeddaeth eich gwasanaeth yn yw'n cyflwyno. Yn y gallu. Felly mae'n bwysig o'r bensmarc yw'n gweithio'r cyflwyno, mae'n bwysig o'r bensmarc o'r bod yn gwasanaeth i'r hyfforddau, a mae'n bwysig o'r bensmarc o'r bensmarc. Felly, mae'n oeddydd i'n gweithio, mae'n gweithio'n gweithio, Dw i'n ddweud y jorlu yn hun, ac y Llywodraeth Cyngor yn ei hun i'ch ei gwirio'i cyd-i gallu a bobl. Yn imperfecta nhw, rydych yn ein tynnu'n gweithio, gallwch yn deall hwn, yu'r rhain o'w assembleau, ac bwysig yn llygwyd yn ymddangos, a phaithio o bobl y'r hanes. Yr hyn y fan, mae'n gweithio'r rhaglaeth wedi dod. Diolch yn credu'r rhaglaeth, mae'n gyd yn cael eu cyllidau agor. Ac yn falch o'r ardych chi'n meddwl, cynnwch chi'n gofyn i'w sbwyllt ar gyfer y tyfnwys ymddangos. Mae'n meddwl i'w meddwl i'w pethau cyfrifiadau, felly rydyn ni'n meddwl i'w texau, felly arddangos gyda'r rôl â'r hynny, ac yn ardal i chi i ddechrau'r rôl. Mae'n dechrau i gŷnol gyda'r cyfrifiadau, ond mae'n meddwl i'w meddwl i'w grannu. Sometimes you get frustrated don't you? Cysi'r like, there's no Mars pass. The bee is warm. Sometimes you think what they're doing exactly what they should be doing. Could they do any better? So we had Siobhan, who's on the forum. Siobhan Dornan has really got a process in her day job. So she was watching some of the processes and the speed they're getting things out. Not quite there. But they've had a huge turnover on staff. I think the hospitality industry in general in the UK is on its backside a bit. Byddai'n gwneud'r rai gweithio'r ddau. Yn yr ddau'r ddau'r ddau o'r ongo. Felly, mae'r ddau'r ddau'r ddau'r ddau'r ddau, mae'n cael ei ddau'r ddau. Mae'n ddau'r ddau i'n gyfrifio ymlaen o ddau'r ddau. Ond mae'n amlwg ymlaen i'r cwmwyntau. A'r gweithio'r carling yn y ddau'r partyn sydd. Felly, mae'r ddau'r wneud maedru. Mae'r ddau'r Sam Magel, Sut ydych chi'n erioedd? Gyd, ac mae oo arall yn gweithio bod yn gwneud ofertyfynol yn yw. Mae'r corll yn ddilyn, mae'n ystyried. Ond yn ffrifysgwyr, mae'n gweithio, mae'n cull iawn. Mae'n ffrifysgwyr yn holl. Mae'n ffans yn ystod, ai'n adon. Mae'n ffioedd ymweliadur yn chi i gyd i ansiol a wneud efallai cychwyn cyfosio ac mae yna os wedi'i gŵr oherwydd i gyrwbiadwr. mae'n ddweud i'n gweithio ar y cyfnodd a'r ysgolwg a'r ddweud, ond byddwn i'n wneud yn ôl i'n mynd i'n mynd i'n ymwybod a'r angen i gael gyd o beth o'i gael gyd. Yr ysgrifennid yma, sy'n fawr i'n bwysig iawn i'r ffordd y mae'n gweithio i'r olwbl, ond mae'n ddweud i'n gweithio i ddaleu'r ysgrifennid. Brannu'r ysgrifennid yma o'r ddweud i'r e-mailu, Mae'r diodel yn awddio ddechrau. Mae'n gwybod ni'n gweld weftwng i fy nhw. Felly mae'n gwybod ni'n gweld ffledd ar draws. A byddai'n dwi'n gwybod ac rwy'n cael ei ddefnyddio. Mae'r cymwyno, byddai'n gwybod, a mas gan gwenddoedd pepperon dostodu. Mae'r ff чаid ac mae'n gwybod dwi'n wneud ei awddai. Felly, mae'r gwlad a'r goddysgffent eich hunain. ac mae'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio a'n gweithio sydd wedi'u gweithio sydd yn gwneud o'r fath ac yn gwneud o'r gweithio'r gwasanaeth Ffark ac yn fwy o'r gweithio'r gwasanaeth, ac mae'n gweithio'r cwmhwyntau a phobl eich bod yn gweithio'r fath. Mae'r bwysig wedi'u'r rhaid i fynd y pryd yn ymgyrch arall ei fod yn dŵr. A'r bwysig ar ysgol yma'r Llywodraeth, mae'n cael eu fath. Mae'n cael ei gweithio'r gweithio. Felly, mae'n meddwl o'r oled yma yn gallu'r ymddiol iawn. Felly, mae'n meddwl i'r wyf yn wiretio i chi. Mae'n meddwl i'ch gynnwys. Mae'n meddwl i chi'n meddwl i chi i fyny yw ddim yn ymddiol i gyd. Ond eisiau, mewn meddwl i chi'n meddwl, efallai yn ddigonwysol eich bwrdd, ei ffaiso'r oled i chi. Mae'n meddwl i chi i gweld wahanol, ond mae oeddaeth grwyfodol. Mae'n meddwl i chi ar gyfer gwahanol, ar ôl ger cryf Nicolau a Llywodraedd, Wedi cael hwych yn ddechrau ar brosesen, mae'n gweithio datblygu'n gweld ddweud. Mae'n fwy gŵr ffordd yma, mae'n ddweud fwy ffair, ac mae'n gwybod yn gwybod. Mae'n ddweud y cwmrae'n cael ei fod yn fwy o'r gweithio ar y cyfnod. Mae'n ddweud y gwybod yn ddweud. A'r brosesen? A'r brosesen. Ac yna ffwy o'r ffordd o'r gweld. Mae'n gweithio ar y cwmrae, mae'n ddweud yn tynnu'r cyfnod. Ithink at times, we've been releasing information too late. 장난 williams is full as is the airway channel you say. We're from panel gets from Cuttuwsinn park. He's been as far as Kenya, Switzerland and goes everywhere. He really understands that whole word of mechanism. Baddys has been pushing big time on a lot of the stuff, getting on a ticket in a ways. One of the things that he was pushing, Baddys goes on Trains and quite of the information that gets released up really late. so byddwn i'n iawn i'r posti, byddwn i'n llawer o'ch gyfadau fan, i'n bryd o'r buogi o'r gwasiau sydd yn fynd i ddim, yn ymwneud i gyd meddwl i'n meddwl cyflwydauon, wedi bod yn dod o'r cwrsau'n gweithio, bod y pwg yn dyfu hynny, ei gael roi fod i'r rhwng cyfleig yw, ond y TV yn ei ddiwedd, y TV mae'n gweithio chi wedi bod, yn amlwg o'r cyfleig yw y pan yn ymwneud, a'r cyfleig wedi bod yn ym 16-38 gwir. ar y tai o'r mae'r iawn gwneud-io. Over the course of the season, that's a couple hundred pounds. That's a roll as a pocket, so... On to be fair, you know, Barry's been pushing on that now for a number of months and he's commented and he's said that Wolves Brentford and the City Game have been released well earlier. Which has allowed them fans to now get the tickets, train tickets at the right price and just get that whole information. That's a real positive, you know that there's only small things but as long as we can keep pushing on these things to make sure the fan experience about ticket a phawr dilych yn gafod. Mae'n meddwl o ffans yn emwyth adael ac yn myfyrdd y ffans yn byddiw leddol gyd. Mae'n meddwl o'i ddweud y chymde. Oedden nhw'n meddwl, ac mae'n meddwl o'i ddweud, o'i mosto'r llewch i'r asko iawn ar bleidliadol o'n meddwl o'r llwyth, ac mae'n meddwl o ffans nid, mae'r ddelch yn gweithio â'u ddweud a chwnio bob ryw grafi. Mae'r ddweud eich gweithio ar gael yr hwnnw, They are still saying it is sticking to 10 o'clock. We have brought this up on numerous occasions again, I ask if anyone is affected by it. If anyone wants us to continue pushing it please reach out and tell us and we can use that as evidence to push on it. Yes because I think that is important isn't it? If you obviously have it travel heavy as Fari Gris said. Ketter to the club aren't they? Exactly. I think you want everybody to be given the same opportunity if people are... I know, listen, there'll be people who start at work at 7, so it might melt them and off the wheel. You understand that, don't you? But a lot of people do begin work at 9 o'clock. And the club can just help the majority, I would say, or just make it at a time where you think, well, most people can get them at that time. 10 o'clock, like you say, if you're a teacher or if you're in work, you're having to stop what you're doing to try and get a ticket. You might take your 10, 15, 20, on the phone or whatever you're trying to sort it. So if the club can put you on that and make it, it was 8 o'clock, wasn't it? It went from 8 o'clock to 10, so I don't know logistically why it's done that. I'm not an expert, I don't know what the club's excuse will be for that, but something like that I think is important because those people do travel up there on the length and breadth of the country. They deserve a first-class service down the way from the club with all the effort they put in. I mean, a new one that's come in with a ticket is the resale platform as well. Obviously that was brought in and we would like to be involved in that process much sooner. We weren't, for me that was a bit of a mistake. However, it is what it is, we are where we are. There are certain elements, probably that resale system that needs to be improved now. We would certainly like family and friends, the ability to transfer tickets. You list them on the website at the moment, so we've been pushing to say, well can you not just transfer it rather than that messing around? Obviously we've seen some really good schemes by Blues with the tickets for Toffees and a variety of other things where they've gifted tickets. StubHub has a lot of flaws, but at the same time, I've had the benefit where fans could list them for cheaper. We live in these times now where people may be financially struggling and having the ability to get cheaper tickets might be that one game that a fan gets to go to a year. So we're pushing to get that in place. We're assured that that's going to be a build, very surely, as a work in progress. So that should be a real benefit when that comes in. Another thing that was risen to us about the alert, so when you're selling tickets, people weren't getting notified whether the tickets had sold or not. So fans were left in a bit of limbo then, like, as me tick had gone, as it not, do you know what I mean? And if it's not, you can then almost unlist it and then organise for someone else to go. But if you don't know, you're just left in that. So we've noted on Twitter we had a lot of people asking fan services and the answer back was very open-ended, like we'll be in touch shortly. Anyway, we'll win shortly, is that? Thursday, Friday, Saturday before the game. And it was very... So we brought that to the club's attention anyway, and assured us that the delay process was about to be launched when people sell the tickets. And funny off, Lee Mitch off the bobble as a sacks, he texted me this morning to say, look, I've got another day for them to say me ticket sold. So it must be in place now, which is a positive. Because again, if you're selling your ticket, you want that reassurance. It's been sold, so you know where your stand's at. The one that caused all kinds of chaos, and we had like some Franco from the Swiss toff he's thrown up and a variety of different people on the build-up to the season, because of that switch over to the digital stuff. There was a lot of people wanting to speak to the club and the waiting times were quite poor, to be honest with you. People were like 40 minutes an hour on the phone. Yeah, my mother-in-law was well over an hour, to know how to get through. So again, we sat down at the club to try and understand a bit more about what's the process, how's it?  You know, it probably hasn't changed much since then. But we spoke to them about, you know, what are the frequent problems that are coming up, what are the common issues? And it's become apparent that you don't have a web chat facility. Right. So our first suggestion was, let's look to try and bring a web chat facility in.  You know, you at least want to be able to get in touch with them, not be waiting for an hour. And the web chats now open live, they agree to trial it. It's there. So if you go on the club website, I believe it's in the bottom right of the website. OK. You can then open a web chat so you can sit in the background and do whatever you're doing and, you know, you're not on the other end of the phone. Barry Williams has used it. And you know what Barry Williams has liked for a bit of moaning. And he even said it worked and it will work fine. OK. Under five minutes his problem has dealt with. That's good. So again, you know, that's another improvement now. I've been really pleased. I've got to say, you know, thanks to the club for taking that on board and running with it and actually putting it into motion. I think that's important, isn't it? There's a, you know, the fans forum's been criticised in the past by different people. But I think if that, you know, if you're taking stuff to the club now and the club are dealing with it and it's making everybody experience better, then it's good. So people do need to get in touch rather than just moaning somewhere. Get in touch and go, listen, I'm having this issue or whatever. And then if you can then take it forward and try to put it on the club's toes then to deal with it, then hopefully at the other end we come up with a better service altogether. I think that's the case. As you referenced before, you know, I think there's a misconception sometimes. We're just, you know, a gang of Evertonians as well. You go to the match, we go to the homes, you know, likes a body goes to every way. And we want the best club that you can have. You know, we're volunteers, we give up our free time and it's all to try and make things better for fans of that. Ultimately holds what we do. You don't get anything for it.  You know, and it's quite simply because it benefits us all, isn't it, if there's a better version of the club? Well, we want experience is better. We want life from the very top of the club, the club moving forward, don't we? And if that is the case of, you know, if you leave by example, if the club starts moving forward, you're pushing the club to get better then. Eventually we will have a better club than what we've got now. We will. And we need one. Yeah. And it's that simple, isn't it? It is. That's simple. What else then, mate? Well, I mean, this is something that's really started to work me and I'm sure you'll agree on this is how frequently fixtures are being moved. Yeah. Now, I appreciate this is not something that the club directly could come back and have control of. But you know, I think it's like two months before the next Saturday. It's something ridiculous, isn't it? Mid-January of this, for the whole game, yeah? Home game.  And it does feel sometimes. I don't know how you feel and the pageants feel, but it feels like very much like your second class citizen. There's a match going fan and with a second and an afterthought. So we basically just raised the displeasure of what people have said to us about the constant changes, the constant messing round. And obviously the club with the Premier League on the Premier League meetings and they've assured us, obviously, they'll express the fans' displeasure on that front as well. Again, you appreciate the club. It's not in their immediate control, but when they attend that meeting, maybe the Premier League at least, you know, they can make our voices heard that way. Yeah. I think for me, definitely to, you know, to go from October to January without the three o'clock Saturday home game. Badness. That's amazing. It's not acceptable in town. You know, I think we'd gone. Wasn't it the Southampton game? It was the first home game we'd had since October the year before. Yeah. So October to August, with those having the three o'clock home game. And I know we were in the stadium and the games were all different times. But we're in it this year and, you know, Arsenal's gone to a Monday night. Leicester's gone to Sunday lunchtime. You know, others, Brighton's, I know, a lot of people might be happy Brighton's gone for him. New Year's Day to the second. But Newcastle's gone to a Thursday night. And again, that might benefit the team because of the text of rest days. But as a ffango on a game, the three o'clock's are getting less and less. Even the away games, you know, the three o'clock's are getting less and less, Addy. And if you're going to do it, do it within the timescales. But look at how the fans can plan. We're playing City on Sunday, two o'clock. Brentford to Sunday after two o'clock. Liverpool's a Wednesday night. Arsenal's the Monday night. Chelsea's the Thursday night. Leicester's the Sunday lunchtime. So, there's six, the next six games. I think, sorry, Crystal Palace isn't, there's one of them that I want to miss now. That's the only Saturday between now and... Actually, I think that's the only Saturday we've got for the rest of the year. I think just at the top of my head, I might be wrong. I just think that's the only Saturday we've got for the rest of the year because Boxing Day, I think is a Sunday this year. So Brighton's a Monday now, I think, is it? Is that right? No, sorry, Brighton's the Sunday as well. Newcastle's a Thursday night or whatever it is. Or Boxing Day's the Monday and Newcastle's the Thursday night. The Chelsea ones are perfect example, Chelsea away. Barry was looking into the price of getting back from Chelsea away. It was £100. And again, this is because... And isn't the last train? Yeah, they can't even make it, can you? Can't even make it. So that was raised by Barry to the club as well. And even when the club has said that the fanxers for bringing it to their attention, they're going to go away and have a look at what they can do. So fingers crossed, you know, some common sense can be looking at that and see if the club can do anything to assist the fans, you know, because... I think they think for the club, I guess it's difficult... It's difficult for the club. As the club look at it and go, well, we're on telly, so we get a big pot of money, great. We all want the club to have more money, but there has got to be a balance. There's got to be a balance. The Premier League just throwing games at any time and changing fixtures. Like, what about people who are flying in? There have been people who plan to come here for the Arsenal game.  And the next minute, the games are Monday night. So they might have thought they were coming for the weekend. And it's all of a sudden Monday night. And that's the thing with the deadlines, the deadlines are there for that reason, for fans to be able to plan. You know, fans to be able to book the travel.  And all these people are planning for their wider groups and they all just want to get to the games and be able to watch them. So yet now, I think that needs to really be sharpened up because it's letting the fans down at the moment and, you know, it's costing them money, especially in the times that we're in. It's just extra money again, isn't it? Definitely, most definitely. Keep hanging, there's a lot of money, keep hanging. Definitely will. And funny enough, one that's born off toffee TV, one of your shows that you've done recently was the Atmosphere piece. Oh, yeah. So obviously, we're back at the games now. You know, we all, as Evertonians, want the atmosphere to be as good as it can be. Yeah.  Barry knows Cain quite well. So Barry's started conversations off with Cain now, and he's looking to see what he can do to help that process as well. And the forum is really open to work and whoever we need to work with, you know, fellow fans trying to push and try and get things to where they need to be. So, although that's not an update, it's an update to say that conversation starts, which is the important part. Is there any, we did mention this in that, and I don't know if you won't know this yet. I don't think, but it's something I'd like you to take forward, is the safe standing option a good one? Is there any way the club would consider it when we've asked them? It was a no, but... Yeah, we've got the same answer back. OK. You know, again, you know, I would have liked to see that personally on a personal level be trialled. You know, I think that the GC8 thing, you know, it was good and principled, but they weren't really probably given the support at the time that they needed to actually do it. I know the club have done a lot of things as well.  So it's just trying to get that conversation started again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We, especially now, I think it's important, because, you know, we're moving towards Bramley Moor.  It's going to be hard, you know, it's a brand new stadium and you don't want to be soulless. Yeah. Not quiet, like Gouldersen can be, yeah. Yeah, but you want everyone wanting to be bouncing. Yeah, of course.  It's going to be better for us all, you know. The club does better, team wins more games if the atmosphere is good, which means more money, which means it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, isn't it? It is, yeah, definitely. So that's good, then, that dialogue starts. So I'm glad that that started up. Obviously, we started a campaign with Eftonians against Heath as well.  Yeah, of course. Look, we're not soft. It does happen across the country. We've seen examples of it all time. So I think some of it, it's up to the fans, you know, to push this stuff.  So, you know, we won't apologise. We'll continue to be pushing that message. And there's a lot of work going on at the moment with EDSA, the Heritage Society, working with other fan groups. Siobhan's been working with her game, too, towards International Women's Day. And there's going to be an activation there. So probably throughout the season, when we do actually get an update for you, we'll let you know. But there's going to be a lot of activations towards pushing that to make sure that, you know, that height doesn't exist within Gudson Park. Certainly not a north band base. Brilliant. That's really good. And it is massively important as well.  You don't need to be, you know, on the receiving end of that or hear it directly to the others or whatever. You just going to go and enjoy the game. By all means, be voice-siferous. Be hostile towards referees. And the opposition, but do it without being abusive and, you know, hate-filled and all of that. So we can all enjoy Gudson and Bramley more on the atmosphere as well. The other one that I wanted to bring up as well is a conversation. Denise Barabaxon's elbow, you wouldn't see any email from her that went out to his own in the fan base to suggest that, you know, tickets were going to become a conversation again, season ticket prices. So, yeah. So the club initiated a conversation. I believe they spoke to various different groups across the fan base, gave us a presentation the other night, taking through, you know, where everything stands in comparison to the rest of the year. You know, to be fair, they have froze the tickets for decades or over. So, you know, I've got to say that's a really good point. You know, it's good to see that that's happening and making the game affordable as it should be for people in the city. It should be able to go to the game when you want to really. And that was all for discussion, really. They wanted to start a conversation. The forum's positioned very much as what you're proposing. We had to see that. Yeah, yeah. So we're very keen to see, you know, what are you actually proposing to us? You know, you're saying they're going up and if so, you know, how much? Or, you know, or are they staying the same? So we very much want, you know, the club to actually tell us that the details. So we've gone back to actually, you know, asked them to show the show what they're proposing and such rather than start the conversation. Cos there's a variety of different viewpoints on this, isn't there? Although we have froze them for 10 years. I'm very much don't want to see that change to Bramleymore personally. I kind of accept that, you know, when it gets to the Bramleymore that it's big gleam a new stadium, but football should be affordable for everyone. You know, it's a working class sport at the end of the day for me, so. What are your thoughts on that, Simon? Yeah, I listen like again. It's an uncomfortable conversation, I think. I think of everything. Of everything we're flying. And, you know, we were tracked and we were doing things the right way on a football point of view. And I think we'd all be a bit more open. So we'll, you know, we spend a bit more money. We get better players and stuff like that. I guess from the football clubs, the business side, they're going to be like, well, we need to do that anyway. I understand that, but from a fans perspective, you know, just look up and down the country, look what's gone on. Yeah. You know, look what's continually happening. You know, the politicians, it's all coming out. It's all coming out now, isn't it? They've been, you know, it's getting more expensive to live without anything. You know, cost of living is going up and wages aren't matching that and everything else. So it's always a difficult conversation to talk about putting places up.  I thought it will obviously go up when we go to Bramleymore. We know that we've got a brand-new stadium. It's got to be paid for. Yeah. You want to create more revenue. I see an email, you know, telling us that we're going after that, this awkward conversation about tickets getting, you know, going up. But I think if it's to go up, it's got to be almost a nominal amount. I think if it's got to go up with goodness and if it's got to go up with goodness and if they're turning around to us, going, listen, the global pandemic has done this, you know, these are the numbers. If you want us to buy players, we've got to bring in more revenue. So we have to charge an extra £15 a head because that will give us, and I haven't even done the maths, but that will give us a couple of million extra and that will make it, then that will be the maximum for me. I think 15 quid, I think more than that. Yeah, but I don't, I think 15 pound isn't just 15 pound though, is it? Because obviously I've got a lot I take, so therefore we're double then aren't we? So that's more money. Some parents will have, they'll go and the three kids will go, so all of a sudden it's 100 quid or it's, you know, 90 quid, whatever, how many is in your family? The drinks and everything else, it's already an expensive thing, you know? You're almost sitting here crying poverty for everyone going, oh, they can't do it, but when you move into Bramleymore, that's, to me, that seems that if you've got to do it and we all accept it, in an ideal world, it wouldn't go up. We've moved to Bramleymore and we don't be paying the same thing we were paying 10 years ago. But the 10 years before, we've got use to incremental increases to me. Well, matter what they were, five and 10 quid, 20 quid, in some cases 40 quid at the time, but we were... I think we'd be crept up as well, as football club fans. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, you know, I think they've been hit the worst. What's maddest? You have your season ticket, you pay it. Whether it be direct debit or everything else, you pay it. You do forget about the people who can only afford to go to a few matches and they get, when you're like seeing the prize, you're like, yeah, it's 50 quid for that thing, you're like, yeah, 50 quid, yeah. You know, cos I don't know, it's a lot of things have crept up like that, but if you're talking, there's food banks up in there in the country, there's people in poverty. Up in the ground, you know, and... It is all of that, isn't it? It's difficult, isn't it? I think, you know, for me, certainly, I don't know, that walk of price, certainly it's got to be kept.  I think, you know, it's good that they've kept them so long. We are one of the most affordable in the Premier League, but I very much want to see what, you know, what are we saying, you know, what are you actually proposing, and that's very much the standpoint of the moment. Yeah, I don't think. It's difficult to go to the club all yet, that's about... You know, we're happy with what it...  Which is a totally different conversation again, isn't it? Because then, when that comes up, you're going, no, mate, sorry. Yeah. Sorry, because you know, every year, when we're going like that, and putting our hand in our pocket, we're not seeing the product matched. No.  You know, it's this amount of go to theatre. Every, you know, wherever you go, and you're like, yeah, okay. Well, A, I don't go to theatre every other week, and B, when I go to theatre, I know I'm going to generally shape almost perfect performance of what I'm seeing. It's perfect performance. You know, I go and watch everything. I see a team, two on up with 30 minutes left, lose five, two. You know, and... Like I said before, things are a lot more palatable when things are on the up. Yeah. Fans will kind of go, like, okay, I understand I've got to pay a little bit extra, but you know what? I love coming to this place and me team. You know, we've got the teams moving forward, and I can see the direction, the pathway, it's clear and all of that. The journey we're on, which is another one. And you want to see us pushing in every other area as well? Every bit. You know, like markets and retail. You know, we're selling enough shares. Have you got enough shops around Europe and the world? You know, probably answers now.  The fans really should be the last one you're squeezing because you're already squeezing, and we've already had this discussion about it's four and a half quid for a warm bottle of beer, a good isn't it? Yeah. And yet fans went to Manchester United and it was £3 a pint, and Liverpool, I believe, is around the £3 mark, you know, or maybe some cases a little touch cheaper for beer that they can get. It's not all about beer, but I'm just using that as a line of sight. It's built up to the start. But everything is there, everything's short. You know, you can't go, well, our match day, food and everything is there, and everything is there. Oh, you know, it's more expensive than a club in the same city as us. Yeah. But now we're putting the ticker pricing up as well and we're doing it, you know, and we're not seeing it repeated on the pitch in terms of if everything's going up and the team's getting better and better. Well, they're seeing Chelsea's today.  And you think it's, yeah. Where's this game going? That's the overall, isn't it? The overall thing. And this is the thing I think a football club should've got a look at now, Dave, in my opinion. And I might be wired at a mark here, but for me, having a look, when you look at Premier League football now, you see what happened with the Sly Six not so long ago, you know, and how the media rallied ran them to make sure they didn't get punished. And everyone was saying they'll get 12 points deducted. It's made for the Premier League being very interesting. Now that's the problem. Well, John Blaine, he says. John Blaine's got his league table. We're west, I'm a-winning it at the moment because the other teams are bottom out of spares. That's my reference point, that's the real thing. And that's the thing about it, is that they did that unnecessarily and the media, the journalists, Tenny Winter, can't punish the fans, you know. But he's quiet on Dabi County getting hammered, you know. But as well as that, there's the greed, so fans were just knocked to the side with that Super League. Wern't they? And it was only when fans kicked off that they went on and gone, let's do this. And I'm still not convinced at all. No, it's coming back, but you've got that. And then it's money on top of it. Players' wages aren't level and out, are they? They're going like that. But fans are still expected to go to Chelsea at eight o'clock on a Thursday night, pay. Now Chelsea fans now are expected to pay £3,900 for the season ticket, that was £1,300 quid this season. It's now going to be £3,900 next season, you know. There's that kind of thing, it's squeeze, squeeze. And that's where the game's going and, you know, okay. Chelsea, luckily for them, seeing to win things regularly, so they're getting a good product, they're not getting a good product that your season ticket tripled. I mean, that's busy and that's in London where it's already expensive anyway. Well, that doesn't give our club an excuse to go, well, Chelsea playing this league in this, there's four grand a season. But we've got a part, you know, for me it doesn't anyway. I've got to use the premium crisis option. Just simply haven't got 500 hands up front. No, that's the thing. That's the thing, isn't it? And for me, I've pushed on this beginning of this season, last season, you know, the premium credit charger fee of about £20. So again, you know, I've asked the club a couple of seasons now to make sure that that is as competitive as it can be, you know what I mean. So that's another fee that I think, you know, that we need to, again, they've assured me that they're going to make sure that they're going out there and looking for other options that are more affordable.  Because my finances are on in the case where they can just... I've always got 600 pounds now. To be honest, though, loads of people won't. Loads of people's finances won't be in the state where they can just go, yeah, there you go, or there you go. I mean, this year, to be fair, I paid last year, this year out because we didn't go the game. So I had credit for playing the year before. So it was like, I haven't got to find that because the credit is there. So next summer it's like that's when you find it or whatever it is. And you're feeling it.  But you're right, you're absolutely right. It just seems to me like the game is squeezing. It's squeezing and squeezing and squeezing. I think the worst thing that could have happened, obviously, was the pandemic because it made clubs go, well, not so much clubs, but TV companies. Well, we've got this product and we can put it on whenever we want. The fans almost don't matter. You're just that season with no fans in. Of course, they want the stadiums full. Yeah, but there's all of the other stuff that goes on. I think now it just looks like they're ringing everything they can out of support. There's not just evident, by the way. This is talking right the way across the board. I mean, my viewpoint is simple. The game belongs to the fans. Where the constants, you know, my grandad is right the way up and down the chain, you know, and. You're born in Evertonian and that works right the way down. So, you know, it should be affordable for people. You know, so we're very much let's see what they've got to say on that. Yeah, it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting and hopefully. Ideally, it'd be nothing. You know, they'd say, well, all right, we've listened and we're going to try to leave it as it is or a small increase. Maybe five pound or ten pound on the ticker as a very small increase. And that'll be it till we get to Bramley. I don't know whether they will. I'm just saying something that you think will. That might, you know, that might be palatable. So the club will make a little bit more people might might be able to just about afford that. Well, ideally, they just leave it to Bramley more and go and have these conversations building up to Bramley more. So we're all four one. Well, I'll be looking on patron when this video goes up. So we can look at what people are saying. Well, I'll do a little poll for our for our patients to see what they think is acceptable. What should it be? Should it remain the same? Should it should it be a small increase? Is that acceptable? Or, you know, is there other people happy to pay whatever? But I don't think people will be. I don't really. And right now, I don't think people definitely. So it's an interest I'm once you have on. I understand looking at both sides. The football club might be thinking, well, we need to claw back some money from somewhere. But as a supporter, you know, at every, at every Tony's happy with what's going on at the moment. Right. What's all about the pitch, Adam? It's mean right the way across. Yes, the stadium. Absolutely everyone's got their hands up for the stadium. But all the other bits of the business, can they honestly stand up and go? We're doing the very best we are. We're the best. We're doing it, but look at the growth. No, no, they can't. And the other things, the communication, which is atrocious from the football club on the stadium, different class. We spoke about this on an episode on here. Haven't we about the comms, you know? I think we're in 2021 now. You know, I think we're getting into that realms where, you know, you're seeing clubs come out, talk more often. We never see our director of football. You know, you seem maybe the old year, the AGM, something like that. The director of football goes on. Or if you can use Google Translate on it. On a Dutch press or whatever. You'll get something from him, but there's a lot of stuff there that we don't see and we need that communication. And if you don't fill a narrative, somebody else will. Yeah, and it's about trying to keep staring the club in the right direction. So people were starting to go, actually, are we doing anything? Are we moving forward? Are we this? Are we that? Hmm. It's there for you. The information's there to say, actually, yeah, we are. Look, we've got this and we've got this. And this is what we're doing. These are out there. There's nothing with us. So you just go. You start second guessing everything and go on. It's not interested anymore. Falling out of love with it can't be bothered. It's the desire there. You say it's large people to write what articles they want. Exactly, so fill a narrative yourself. That will be my big wish for Levent Football Club, will be the communication to improve. What they should do is they should find some really good content providers who know what they're doing. And ask them for some advice. They just speak, just do their own thing and get it going on. Who haven't we spoken to? Oh, the owner.  Marcel, you know, instead of talking to Vopball or whoever else in Holland, talk to us so we can start to point the club. I think people's minds would just be much more at ease. You'd know what you were following. You'd know what you were following. Yeah. Wouldn't you? We can all assume. And we can all go. But for everyone of us who assumes that the owner still is fully committed and we're moving forward and Marcel Brands is exhausted and every possible avenue to get us better players who are equipped for the Premier League. And Denise Barron-Bachsendale is driving the club to commercial greatness to get us more money and Grant Ingalls who's just joined the board. There's exercise in every way to sort the finances out. And we're all going in the right direction and all of this, that mirror. And the ADM, which is online, it's people I'm happy about. And I personally think that it should have been face-to-face. I do. I'm sorry whether the club disagree. I think it should be face-to-face. I didn't like the line that said, we don't have to have an ADM. I thought that was, to be honest, I thought that was shocking. It didn't sit well. That was in the state and I thought it was shocking. But the club for me should have done that face-to-face so people can have that conversation. But if they're not going to do it, and they're not, they've said they're not, the board needs to all be together. It needs to be live and the questions need to be open from the floor. So that if I ask, you're on the board and I ask you a question, you answer it back. You don't go, send me that question two weeks before and I'll think about what I want to say. So I catch it and you give me the answer and we can respond. And if you do it that way and go, well, we've done it this way because more people can watch it and attend it. Then I still won't be happy with it because I still feel like it needed to be face-to-face. But I would be happier than if it's all pre-planned questions. That was one thing I've raised a couple of times about, you know, well, hearing from Marcel Branson, the fans, you know, hearing some of the plans sometimes on obviously the ADMs for shareholders, you know, so I wouldn't want to comment on shareholder issues. But at the same time, I can understand all the frustration that's going on. Definitely, you know, and we mentioned about. But shareholders are either Tomlions. Yeah, they're all blues, yeah.  And if that's not how it seems, you know, that's not what they mean, then be clear about it. Well, the easiest way is to make sure the board's all together. Yeah, like, ask the questions, yeah. Ask the questions, let's go. And we did ask, you know, for when Marcel Branson does speak, make it accessible for all fans. Exactly. Which they've, you know, they said they will do. OK, cos nothing he says to the shareholder because he shouldn't be able to say to us. So the wider fan base, yeah. Let everyone know what the path is, let everyone know what. Cos he's done two good presentations. I've seen the presentations, he's done the good. But there's no reason why that shouldn't be just on evidence where I predict that everybody to view his presentation. So we all go, oh, OK, well, this is what he said, then, aren't there? So meeting before last, that was raising the club of the shareholders. If he does speak at it, then it will be available on the board, so we should be speaking. He should be, yeah. He has to be speaking. We'll see what happens, right? Yeah. We'll see what happens. Dave, that was a good therapeutic chat. Listen, some good stuff there, it's good that stuff is getting taken. It's good that the club are listening and trying to make some changes. I'm fuming over the Mars bars, I'm not going to lie. But it is good, and like, if you've got issues that you want to bring up, then raise them with the fans forum. Talk with the airfo, you know what I mean. And you can take that, and hopefully they'll take them to Everton and see if we can improve. And look ideas as well. Ideas, yeah. You know what I mean? Like ways to make things better. Look, we've got hundreds of thousands of fans, 32,000 season to get older. We've got people who are from remarkable careers and backgrounds, from all kinds of experience, and more, you know, better than that, the Nevitarians. So send them ideas in, you know, help us, you know, and we'll push these things and they'll be ministered and we'll carry on raising them until we make things better. Definitely. Definitely, that's what it's like. I'll put the email address in the link in the description there, so you can get in touch there with the fans forum and raise anything or, you know, ask questions there and I'm sure they'll do the best to answer them. Dave, thanks very much for coming in and having a chat. Let us know what you think in the comments section below. What should the club be doing? 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