All right everyone, welcome back to your favorite cooking channel. I am chef Luke What we're gonna talk about today is last year Us on this channel. We create we created a website called based on cooking now It was kind of a proof of concept because the the reality is many recipe sites out there.  You want a recipe? You can click on it. You can read it. It doesn't take a million hours to load Very nice site So I we created this really as a kind of proof of concept that you can like do this kind of stuff And of course many people have submitted recipes. You can check them out now. I I Basically when I created the site I had a lot of people submit recipes. It's probably around 250 Recipes here, but eventually I got tired of maintaining it because I was using this really crappy static site generator Okay, because the whole point of the site.  I've actually used it. I mean off and on for Doing something for someone else like for the past five years or so But it was only now that I've seriously got into it like really got into it I mean, I think I've made some people some websites like five years ago They were like one or two pages, but the nice thing about Hugo specifically for a site like based on cooking Is if you want to order things by like tags like all that kind of stuff Tagging basically comes with by default and it's it's easy to work with it. So you can easily sort things up let's say I want a French dish you can do this and Hugo has many different ways like when you're in Well in the implementation of based on cooking you can either search the tags individually or on each of the Recipes if you go to the bottom, it'll have other related, you know articles or I guess the tags that it's tagged with so you can look for similar things So that is one thing that I wanted, but I also made other changes to based on cooking Specifically you see this very nice search bar at the top. Okay, so the point of that now this actually It's actually JavaScript, but it's like something like five or ten lines basically of JavaScript done right like that I'm not like in general. I'm against JavaScript because what people do is they write entire websites in it because they don't know I don't know they don't know how to use responsive CSS or like other basic or they don't know how to use a statics I don't know what exactly what compels people to use JavaScript, but this is the proper use of it Okay, so what this does now obviously look at all these articles. It's hard to like make sense of them Like look through you really have to have an autistic brain to make sense of all the stuff So what you can now do is just type in. Oh, you know, I'm gonna make something with beef Okay, so beef and so now I have a bunch of different choices for what to click on That kind of stuff or let's say I want I don't know chicken You know, whatever and it will basically I mean it what the JavaScript actually does is it just takes the content that is in This list here and filters it by the word you have And it's not using databases or any I mean it's it's not like a back-end thing It is just like filtering the the list right in front of you and it is not you're not calling in in any external JavaScript bootstrapping garbage or whatever The the nice little hack I did here though. Actually, I should say so you'll notice if I put in beef Okay, so there are a lot of things with beef in the title But there are a bunch of stuff that have beef in it, but they're not in the title Oh, how do you do that? Well, it's actually very easy with Hugo because in Hugo, you know When you have when Hugo is auto-generating, you know, this this list of articles or whatever You can actually have it secretly put in what it's tagged with so what I have here is by each article I have a non displaying list of their tags So when you're searching in here, you're actually searching by both title and tag, but you're not you're not calling any other You know, you're not loading into the other pages or anything like that. It is just right here It's easy for the sir on the server side and it's easy on your browser, right? so that's the whole point like again like So the point is not like being totally anti JavaScript. It's like using it for a purpose like this is the appropriate use of it That's as far as I'm concerned So either way, so this site This is just kind of an announcement that I'm now using this site again It's much easier for me to add stuff and Hugo actually even makes let me let's find Let me just click on something random until I find it another thing that I had trouble with when I first started having people send stuff in is I think my internet conked out for a second Okay, there it goes Is when people at the bottom I let people this guy has a lot of images I let people put like links to their own website or links to cryptocurrency donation addresses So if you like the recipe if you like this guy's, you know ravioli recipe, you can send a Monero down here Now the nice thing about Hugo is you can like have all but what people originally did is they would just like make their own They would format every single one differently They would format, you know, Billy would format his differently from Johnny who did it on another article And it would just be a mess, but the nice thing with Hugo actually I can probably show you how that works Is if we go to what is it data? Oh, where's my face? You don't you don't want to forget that I'm here You know, I think I have one for myself Yeah So instead what you do is you can just have a little JSON file where you have some metadata about each author and then on In the metadata of each article you just say oh, this is the guy who made this particular Thing here you put the author name this corresponds to a JSON file and it automatically gets if they have a website It'll put a link to their website if you have if they have a Bitcoin or Monero donation address It'll have all that kind of stuff so And I think I might do more that in the future like I think maybe prep time and cooking time and serving time Like just putting a couple more things in metadata Because since you're just generating the site when a static site generator doesn't make I mean it just make it Loads instantly for these people. It's not like we're you know Every single page the server is generating something new. It's still a static site But you can Hugo is just so nice in the kind of abstraction like you can do more scripting kind of things and it will compile into a static site Right. So as I again as I said like I've kind of used Hugo off and on for a while But it's only now that I might be doing videos on it in particular just because I found it so useful Or like writing short codes to you know abbreviate things So I might do a little video on that but in the meantime, this is just to talk about based off cooking if you want to add A recipe or something like that you can go to the github which I think well actually I think I pulled it up here Right. It's linked on the site though if you go down to the bottom So there you can create a pull request or you can fix up other recipes or another thing is like I'd kind of like all The recipes out here to eventually have you know a picture for each one So, I mean some of them do right? I think this one Yeah, so this one has a picture, but a lot of them don't so it would be nice if you make one of these to Supply a picture or something like that. So either way, that's that's about it. I'm really loving Hugo I recommend it. I might be doing a couple videos just on basic things. It's a little hard to get started in it because They don't really give you sensible defaults You kind of have to figure out their way of doing things But I very much enjoyed it and it's actually made this side a lot easier. That's why that is why I actually fixed all the stuff up I mean Just because once I learned Hugo It's like so much easier to maintain the site and again the same as with my own personal website Which again is now in Hugo, but I'm probably gonna tweak that a little more I've you know never in the whole all my years of having a website Have I ever liked how my website looks? You know what I mean? Like I will change it a lot I've just never really I've never really felt it But you know, that's just my that's my personal problem. So I'll figure that out. That's for me to figure out But I'll see you guys next time. Thanks for watching check out based on cooking Cook some of the recipes take some pictures send them in or supply your own recipes Amin these recipes if you want you can make changes. That's fine If you have some suggestions now that I'm actually thinking about this site more seriously I want to kind of fix some things up and and make things more consistent just because originally it was just like Oh just submit a recipe. Oh, that sounds okay. I'll accept it All right, so that's it. See you guys next time


call a meeting of all the folks who you can order. I'll start with the world call, all the person ready? Here, all the person, hi, they've been here. All the person in the rest is excused. We will start it with the Pledge of Allegiance. Our Pledge of Allegiance is to flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, I think we have some guests here, so we will do introductions and we have a new order that's going to be joining our committee, so we'll start out. I'm Dean Decker, all the person from district six and chair of the committee. Joe Eidemann, district 10. I'm Angela Ramey, district five. Lesma Jarris, assistant city attorney. Mike Williams, department of public works. Kevin Jump, city engineering. Joel Cole, state department of public works, street and sanitation superintendent. Jordan Schiff, sanitation superintendent. I'm sorry, waste water superintendent. Tracy Burnett, private citizen. Steve Jordan, citizen. David Smith, citizen also. Stacy Wessel-Dick, DPW. Heather Burke, DPW business manager. David Beewald, director of public works. And I'm Dan Peterson, district three, Alderman. All right, thank you all. We'll start it with approval of minutes from March 12th, 2024. Move to approve. Second. We'll just make a second at any discussion on those bits. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. Those are approved. Number six, resolution number 1872324, resolution authorizing appropriate city officials to enter into a contract with Walundi contractors incorporated for the construction of the 2024 Complete Streets Union Avenue and Broadway improvements director. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'm going to defer to Mr. Jones from engineering this evening to talk about this. This was a capital improvements project identified looking for approval on this contract this evening. And Kevin can give a little bit more detail in terms of the particulars of the project and a budget and a word of bit. Okay, so this is one of our typical mill infill projects, mill off a couple inches of the existing asphalt, put new asphalt back down, fix the manholes, fix the ADA ramps, the corners. The biggest improvement I see in this project is we've got the railroad on board to remove the tracks at Union and South Business. Wow. So we can finally make that smooth. That's big, that's huge. Repave the intersection of Union and Broadway, not Union and South Business, clean up all that stuff in the intersection. That'll be nice, that'll be really nice. Yeah, that's really the highlights of that one. I guess I want to quick, for the Complete Streets now, I know we're not doing a lot, but is there something that can be done as far as this to reduce speed? Because I know that's one thing we do have, like I know I've had complaints about Broadway Avenue already, and now we move the rough street with a nice smooth street I can see getting more complaints about speeding. There's definitely things we can look at, but as we're still developing the policy and the standards, we don't want to implement the wrong thing right now. But as far as Union goes at Sock Trail, we're going to put some, I guess, calm bump outs in there, make that intersection a little safer, especially with 19th being closed, that intersection is going to see more traffic. That'll allow us to keep the cars away from the intersection, shorten up the crosswalk. Should help a little bit with speeds on Union. That'll be nice for also for the restaurant there, people going across the street, stuff like that, so that'll be a good thing there, that may help. The difficulty, again, with Union Avenue is it is a truck route. Okay, yeah. You have the Pigley-Wigley Air Hall, sir, Pigley-Wigley Midwest that's there. You have some other, you have Spillerspring back south of there, as well as Hexion Chemical. So there's a lot of larger trucks. So in other words, in terms of trying to narrow and trying to, that's the difficulty on that type of section of Union Avenue. It does serve, because it does pretty much, it's one of those few streets that goes all the way to the east of the lake, as well as all the way to Taylor Drive, as one continues. So it's considered mainly an urban collector. So in that sense, it's built into the correct width to move traffic. But at the same time, you're right, speeds, things are a consideration, so we can continue to monitor that. I think with the intersection improvement that Kevin mentioned at Gussies, and that area with the railroad tracks there, that also will be a nice improvement to help. One that I'm more concerned with actually is Broadway, because Broadway is that big, nice wide street, and it kind of reminds me how Indiana Avenue used to be. People kind of like to fly down there, and that's why I'd like to see if there's anything we can do. Potentially, I think, again, as Kevin mentioned, this is just at this point, this is not what we would say is a reconstruct where we're gonna redesign much. It's milling off the old asphalt and putting a new surface down as an improvement. Typically, our life cycle, our life expectancy on a project like that is 15 years. So it's not, it's Indiana Avenue, we do a research through reconstruction like that. Our life is, we have a minimum of 40, but typically we try to get 50 years out of a project like that. Other quick question I have before I open it up is, what's the timeline on this?  Because of him. There's probably some overlap in there. Okay. If Broadway will be open to local traffic and residences, so it won't be such a disruption for the homeowners and such on Broadway. All right, great questions for you. Move to approve. Second. Any other discussion? All in favor. Any other? Dr. We had a question for you. Is there any space for questions from the community members? I guess we can open up for some limited discussion. Sure. All right, so thanks so much. And just hearing about thinking about complete streets is positive for sure. One thing that we wanna make sure, I think you said that we don't wanna implement this the wrong thing, but I think also when we're starting to think about complete streets, we wanna make sure we also don't just start with complete streets and not do some of the right things. And some of those right things are communication, right? Talking to community members. And I think the things that we're hearing are the exact reasons why we're looking towards complete streets.  And also, you know, you said it's urban connector to move traffic, but it's also a neighborhood. So I think complete streets would really ask us to like look at those things and talk to community and think about how is this walkable? How is this bikeable? And so we're just, I'm wondering how is this, how is any of this complete streets thinking, right? I know we're thinking of a plan. We don't have a plan yet. And this is kind of a little of getting us to that, but we wanna make sure we don't start out our complete streets without communication, without really thinking about some of the complete streets tenants. So I would just love to hear what about this is complete streets? I agree with your line of thoughts and in terms of where we're at today, we're not there. And that's, we'll be honest with that. So a lot of the projects that you see tonight were already in the, when I would say capital improvement plan and designed before complete streets was really a true initiative for the department. So what you're seeing here is we're advancing projects somewhat with the complete streets, I guess, vision, but yet it's not fully implemented or at that stage. And our goal is, since these projects were designed last year and through the process and approved and ready to go forbidding, they, we really didn't have the community engagement that we truly want to foster and move forward with complete streets. So everything you're saying is correct. As a department and as a community, we wanna engage, we wanna have better dialogue, we wanna be able to get more input earlier in the process. Now, there will be projects that are just, like the mill and fill is really just a maintenance project. It's not necessarily taking it the next level. However, there are elements within even a mill and fill type of maintenance project that we can collectively along with the neighborhood and as, I guess practitioners that are looking to make these improvements for the city work together and try to find areas where we can make incremental improvements. So that's part of the process. We have to have good dialogue. We have to have a conversation where this makes sense for this section of network or we have to have that at these certain standards because of the type of traffic and the type of volume that we are experiencing. Not disregarding pedestrian, bicycle and other accommodations, transit, handicap accessibility. They're all at the same level in terms of imports, but yet certain sections and certain characteristics, criteria in other words, I should say, are gonna dictate certain design considerations moving forward. So we'll have a conversation about that. But I think, yeah, we got the resolution passed. We wanna get there, but unfortunately some of these projects were already in the pipeline and yes, it does say complete streets in the narrative, but I would probably say it's not necessarily with the complete streets true philosophy. We did incorporate some of the pedestrian crosswalk improvements in these projects. We tried, there's incremental small, but it's not a full, what I would say, fledged attempt where we wanna be. Where it would be much more engagement, much more in dialogue and having a conversation and we're not there yet. We wanna get there and I'm hoping that after we get these projects out, starting for 2025's projects, because Kevin and his team in engineering are gonna start doing that preliminary engineering, that's the time we wanna meet and talk. Not now when we have beds and we have contractors and the plants have been out in the street. And I just don't want the group to feel that this is just in name only, that we're, here we go, they said they wanna do complete streets, but they're doing something completely different. That's not the case. I truly think the staff is behind all of this. We wouldn't be working as hard. We did get this grant that is gonna be really important because we're gonna bring in some experts that are gonna even help us, as well as with this grant, there's gonna be additional opportunity for community members such as yourself that are active. We want you at the table and we want you as part of this process because it's not just a city staff working with an engineer or a consultant saying, oh, here it is, we'll roll it out.  So I'm a little bit long-winded there, but I just wanted to assure you and give you a little background of how come these projects are here now and they're going out and they're not necessarily in line with the philosophy. When did this quick comment? I guess I just take, thank you for that, Dave, because that's reassuring. I guess, and I'm grateful the projects are going ahead because I don't want projects or street improvement in this town held up because the streets need to be fixed, but I'm also a big advocate for complete streets. So I think I'm glad to see us easing that direction. I guess my concern with this is just putting the complete streets labeled on these projects and people looking at that and saying, oh, that's what complete streets means, what's different? Because that's what some people could interpret this from. They don't come to these meetings and hear what you just said. So it's a good point and I agree. But I do think that complete streets, as part of it, is going to have some components of what I would say, just maintenance level type of projects because not only is it going to improve the surface, it's going to improve walkability because less potholes, less tracking, bikeability. So a lot of that improvement. It might not necessarily change the geometry. But there's still a portion of these projects, I think when we develop it further, I think we're going to have to have all these different types of criterias for improvements to make streets safer and complete. Yeah, I also asked, and I think the problem, I think the thing that brought us here is we hear complete streets.  And is what we're talking about tonight, is that where some of that money is going or not? No, none of the money that is coming for, we've received a grant for it, it's called Safe Streets for All. And as part of that grant from the Feds, a complete streets policy and guidelines to help us as a community make roads safer for walkability, bicycling, slowing traffic, reducing accidents, everything kind of an umbrella. Much more comprehensive policy. The streets tonight are really, we're identified like for Lincoln Avenue already two to three years ago and it got kicked down the road, unfortunately, just because of budgets and things. And now we're finally, that design's been in process for many years, unfortunately. Well, I can appreciate that. Lincoln Avenue, I mean, we can twist and ankle this one if you're across the street there. It's that bad, so I appreciate that. But I think the confusion is that the resurfacing and the upgrade of these roads to call that complete streets is inaccurate perhaps and ends there.  There's a complete streets policy that comes from Smart Growth America, the DPI or the ULT, the Federal Highway Administration, and they're all very similar and what you're explaining tonight doesn't have anything to do with it. So I think that's the confusion. Yeah, and I can see that then again. That's where we wanna go. That's what we're modeling. Our future is to be with Smart Growth and those organizations that are really advocating for complete streets. That's what we really, as a community and as a department, we've decided that that's where we wanna head. So we're gonna, when we're gonna need to work together and need your input down this process as well as the council ultimately to help us prioritize and fund these types of improvements for the community. And we look forward to that opportunity too. Regarding Broadway, a good section of Broadway has already been done, am I not right? Is this to the west end? You get this from like 17th to 23rd, okay, that section. Thank you. Yes, I guess I would reiterate that my, oh, I'm sorry. Aston yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would reiterate that that's my goal as a council member that we get into more complete streets and I understand we're at that weird part of the pipeline where things already were around and we don't wanna put a halt to those projects because we're at a point where we're starting to catch up on some of these roles. We're finally getting to a point where we're seeing our roads improving and we're getting to that point and we don't wanna put the brakes on that. It's this transition that we're in right now, I think that's the problem. It's just transitioning and once we get that transition, next year I think what road projects come through, they're going to look different. I would agree so, so. Can I ask one more thing? Sure, go ahead. Sort of on the topic, but really they're taking out the road tracks at noon. Does that get us any closer to the trail being extended? We would love to get that trail extended. Again, it comes down to negotiating working with Union Pacific on the sale. That's still at a stalemate, you know. I did just talk to the city administrator, actually last week about it and it is on the forum, discussions that are still working on it. So it's not something we're forgetting about, we are, it is a goal of ours, it really is. I appreciate your time listening to that. Okay, I'm sorry, thank you. Okay, any other discussion? Okay, we already had this. So, all in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes, aye. That is approved. Number seven, resolution number 188, 2324, resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials to enter into a contract with Italian Peter, Peterston Construction, company for the construction of the 2024 complete streets, Lincoln Avenue, Provence North 6th Street to Bartlett Street. All right, they're coming again then, I guess. Yes, please. So, as was already discussed, this was identified in CAV last couple years. So, this is kind of two different projects. Third to sixth is a mill and overlay. Third to Barrett is a fully construction. Okay. It'll, new curb and gutter, new roadway. Actually, the water utility is gonna get in ahead of us and replace the block of water main. I think they're doing lead water services ahead of us as well. Yes, that's, the third to Barrett is really bad. Really bad. And then it also includes improvements of the intersection of Lincoln, Barrett, okay, road coming up the hill. Okay. Hopefully more pedestrian friendly. Okay. So we'd like to see that. Any other questions on this one? I moved to approve. Second. There's only two of us. Oh my God, look at that. She's made the second, any other discussion. All in favor. Aye. That is approved. It's a little lower down. Thanks. Okay. Number eight, resolution number 193-23-24 resolution, authorizing the appropriate city officials enter into a contract with both infrastructure and environment LLC for farm subdivision design. David. Yes, yes, Mr. Chairman. This is part of a few call that we just improved a new TID district for this area for the Garment Farm Master Plan. A hiss. 275 plus acres within this area, including the pole farm, looking to lay that all out. So it's talking about roads, sewer, water, all that type of infrastructure needs to be laid out, surveyed and everything for that complete area. So this contract, given the timing and where they're going with the developer, it is moving rapidly. And so we're looking to engage this consultant firm. FOTH, FOTH has also done quite a bit of the sanitary sewer study for the south side area, preliminary, looking at a future growth areas, future planning for long range. So, I'll defer to Kevin a little bit in terms of maybe the detail in terms of other things that they'll be doing, but I know wetland delineation, soil sampling for the types of roads and what type of structures we can put in here. They're going to be, like I said, designing the road with there's bike paths being designed in the subdivision as well as park and open space areas. So it's a huge master plan of this entire area that will probably be the first phase is this area this area right above this creek that runs through here. So that first phase will happen this summer, starting this summer with the south side here occurring as the second phase. Governor, sir, I have no idea what you're saying. I hope I just didn't miss any of the highlights of their work, but there's surveying legal description. There's a whole laundry list of activities that are needed to get this off the ground. The water management, all those. It's a great one. So yeah, where we're at capacity-wise with the engineering staff is this, this wasn't part of our plan capital and this is coming fast and furious, so we need to get this work going with this consulting group, in other words. Thank you. I do have an email that went out on Monday about a focus group. Are you, everyone's aware of that? With UW Milwaukee, that will be occurring in conjunction with this work as well. They're gonna get that information back and ideally start to lay things out. So what we're voting on today have anything, is that, are we doing this backwards or no? No, okay. We have to just move this forward. Then the planning and, okay, got you, got you. All right. And we've used this firm before. Yes, we have. Basically in that area of the city or is it other areas of the city? We've used it elsewhere in the city as well. But they, again, they've, there's another contract after this with the same group and that's mainly about the sanitary sewer intercept. That's a much larger project. This is still a large, a lot of, this has a lot of moving parts and different activities where the other one is strictly sanitary sewer. This also is the same group that's doing this, the Lakeshore sewer sewer. Correct. They did the sanitary sewer along the Lakeshore for us. Motion to approve. Second. I'll just make a second. Did any one of them, go ahead, can you swipe quicker? Sorry, I'm sure I could comment. I think I saw the general design on page 43 of the agenda packet. If I'm understanding this correctly, this is like to start the planning from what I see in the other, like the existing neighborhoods there, there are no sidewalks. And since this is like built or like labeled as like a mixed use area, I would imagine there's some retail shops and a couple of apartments and stuff in there. I heard a bike path mentioned, but I would imagine people would really like to walk around there and without sidewalks, I think that could be a challenge. And then if this is in the planning phase, I would really love to see maybe some more thought going to how this could be connected for bikes and pedestrians, just because it's like very much like this, like very residential, the streets are very windy. It'd be nice to see a couple like shortcuts maybe added in with some pedestrian paths, just so that people could walk around instead of having to drive everywhere. Yeah, I agree. And I think what we've been seeing so far is just conceptual that my understanding is, is that a lot of the walkability will be through paths off the street and behind and almost like corridors and alleyways without being a true alley. So it won't be like on the street proper and they wanna keep the streets narrow to keep traffic slow through the area, but then pedestrians and everything would be able to walk through backyards and have this kind of connectivity and organic kind of mobility within this subdivision. So it's, and that's partly with Alderman Angela talking about the focus group. They're looking to, okay, what are some of the ideas and parameters in terms of how we wanna make these connections? So I think that information will then be fed to ultimately the final design and layout when we start construction staking and building things, where's the proper pathways and accessibility? But yeah, and even in fact, we're adding, there is a north south, we call it a collector road, that will service this whole area once it's fully developed. It will have transit service, so there'll be pull offs, but there's also bump outs for crossing and making traffic slow through this, so it's not a raceway. So I know there's talk about how does that all get incorporated. And again, since this is starting from scratch, I think there's an opportunity for a lot of input in the type of concepts and walkability, bikeability and all that, but we've been talking about for an opportunity for your input as others to share in this design process. Thank you. The speed is that immediately to the west of that. That is many road, and it's narrow and pretty steep ditches in areas. Ultimately, that's gonna, we figure that will need to be improved with this development eventually as well. Remember the thing that we talked to with the developer? This is to make this a walkable, walkable, bikeable community.  All those things are kind of planned as part of this whole area. So the idea is we do wanna have it walkable, we do wanna have it bikeable. We don't want, we want this to be a safe walkable area. So that's gonna be the goal. All right, any other discussion? All in favor? Aye. Opposed? Chair votes aye. That is approved. Okay. Okay, resolution number 194-2324 resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials to enter into a contract with full infrastructures and environment LLC for this south side, supporting the south side sewer system, phase one and two design. All right, so I'm just waiting for a bit, Matt. Ultimately, as this area develops, right, we have this 270 acres that we're looking in the next 10 years, roughly, of having 2,000 living units, residential, commercial in this area, we have our business center, self point enterprise campus that we're looking to start to have industrial development, our business development, as well as now with the annexation of this parcel that is also geared up for future development. The difficulty is ultimately we have to serve these properties with sewage to be conveyed to the treatment plan. The south side of Sheboygan is part of, you know, abutting up against the town of Wilson as well. And what is occurring is what used to be primarily just single family homes, as you can see in this area, this is in the town of Wilson. And in here, so it's fairly, what I would say, suburbanized, big lots spread out all over. Not a lot of sewage flow that is necessarily being conveyed to the plant. So the network that serves a lot of these areas is ultimately going to be undersized for the future. Once this starts to fill in and these other pockets in this area around the city, and when we say future, we're talking anywhere from 10 to 40 years into the future. So when we're looking at this next project, we're looking at there will be a major interceptor sewer that will be going through this subdivision and this whole new development that will collect all of this area, as well as areas, ultimately, these are being served today, but there's other areas that you can see that are available in the future, and even south of here, that this new line could be extended and serve future areas as well. The service area actually goes all the way down to V in this new proposal that was being constructed. So with that, so this is part of the design to build that interceptor, which will then run up 18th Street to this transmission corridor. Ultimately, we have to run a pipe all along this transmission corridor and then to the plant. And that interceptor will then also be able to take off many existing Sheboygan resident homes that flow through a town lift station. So we pay it currently today to send our sewage through a town system. And have it actually repumped back to the city. Just the way the system works today. And Jordan's here and he's wearing this in Kevin and we can get real detailed here, but ultimately we're talking large type of pipe and long runs. We're talking in a new infrastructure well over a mile in length to get to the plant. The good thing is, is in the future, this is all gravity fed. So we don't have to go through a future pump station and pump stations have as a mechanical power, they can fail and they need maintenance. But this also, this line will also serve the future development of all this industrial area. So if we have one, let's say there's a potential to bring in a business that is a heavy water user, a bodily company. And they have discharge and they're wastewater and they're discharging the wastewater. It could happen where with the future development that they could be, ah, I'm sorry, we can't accommodate you because the system's over taxed right now. There's no room for you to build and send additional sewage. We wanna prevent that clearly. So that's part of this process starting to design on this major interceptor, get it. Construct it along with this development over the next five to 10 years so that it will be ready and to go to serve all the future area. So this firm already did the preliminary study for what is the future? So they look at all this available land and acreage and if it's ultimately built out someday, let's say 40 years from now, it's all filled in. What would the flows be? And that's where they start their design and they look at and they say, okay, how do we accommodate that moving forward? So ultimately, they've come up with a design that's been submitted to the DNR. I believe it's gone through. I don't know if it, I think they've preliminarily approved the concept. Now it's just waiting for some back and forth on the details. Is that fair to say, Kevin? You saw it a little bit more than I did so I don't want to put words in the name. Just some DNR review comments, just a back and forth of clarification. So the concept of adding these two interceptors, I would call them the North one and then the West to the plant have been preliminarily conceptually saying, okay, this is a good, let's get the answers and now we can get the detailed design moving. Ultimately, when this gets built, this is going to be an expensive project. Almost it could be $30 million. Now, that's a big number but when you look at all of the land, it's going to be serving and those will be new customers, those will be new ratepayers. It comes out of that, is funded all through the wastewater rates, in other words. So it doesn't come back to, we all share in the rates but it won't be a burden necessarily to date. It's to accommodate that future growth and future customers as well. And also even for grants and things like that too, possibly. There is a potential that maybe with, if we go through the Clean Water Fund, Sheboygan's eligible for some principle forgiveness. I'm not sure if this area is going to qualify. It's going to depend on certain areas that are served that say if they're underprivileged and if it's picking up some of their areas, we could be eligible for some of that. What about the effect on our current plant, water treatment plant itself? Is there going to be modifications after this is all installed? Are we prepared to? Yeah, I think right now we're probably about 50% capacity on our daily flows. Yeah, and so actually that's one of the comments that the DNR asked for feedback from both and from Ahsan. And when both looks at their full development, maybe even 50 to 100 years down the road, certainly the capacity issue would be a concern. When you look at their raw number for what that might be in 50 years, it would be concerning, but obviously it'll be a very gradual move in that direction. And all the residential areas that we're looking at now wouldn't be as big a concern as that I-43 corridor, for example, and like David mentioned, a big water user that might develop there. So I think we're in really good shape for the next 20 years. As we see how this develops and that area develops, then obviously we might have to start looking at expansion of the plant itself. Good, thanks. Okay. Any other questions? Did anyone have any questions? I'll move to approved. Seconds. What's to be seconded? Any other discussion? All in favor? Aye. The opposed? Chair will tie. That is approved. Okay. Number 10, resolution number 196-2324, resolution authorizing the appropriate city officials to apply for the targeted runoff management and notice of discharge grant in urban non-point source and storm water grant with the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources for the purpose of implementing measures to control agricultural or urban storm water runoff pollution sources as described in the application and pursuant to subsection 281.65 or 281.66 Wisconsin statutes and CHNR 153 and 154. That's an awful. I think that's a typo. I think that should be 151, 153 and 154. Okay, okay. We're gonna need to make it a net. I don't have to read the whole thing. No, you're good. That's good, that's wonderful. So Mr. Chairman, you're right, it is a multiple but really what it's looking at is we have this really great environmental corridor in the city, the Pigeon River, that has public ownership with the city over the years and through the park and then Maywood as well. And what we're looking to do is basically come up with a big plan here to improve the water quality and eliminate the invasive species that are creeping in in this area. And this grant helps with that. Identifying the evasives, treating them and removing them as well as other areas along this corridor that may have runoff concerns. As you know, we have storm water runs off, water runs rain today, where did all that rain water go? Went to the river, right to the river, to the Pigeon River, Sheboygan River are right directly to Lake Michigan. So how do we manage that runoff so it's not polluting our waterways? So there's areas we can provide buffers and not necessarily pipes directly to the water. Maybe have that rain water run through some wetlands area that will filter that runoff and have some basins where some of that debris can be collected and then that basin could be cleaned out, in other words. So a lot of that is part of this process. We've been using this grant as well to implement some of these. And I know some of the stuff, if you're familiar, you've probably seen it along some of the North Point Bluff, for instance, where it's been cleaned up. We've eliminated quite a bit of the overgrowth and vegetation. There was a lot of vines and things choking out the native species. And it was, it actually, it was causing more harm than you would realize. So it was good to get a lot of that material and there was a basis out of it. So I know Joe Curlin and the first staff have been working at length with this along with the Maywood Association in conjunction with them. So again, it's always good to get a grant to help us offset our costs to manage this type of activity within the city. Move to approve. Second. Motion has been seconded. Any other discussion? Clarifications, you're asking for approval to apply for a grant. Yeah, I thought we'd got it. I think the grant needs a council resolution. Okay, to formally apply for the grant. All right. Yeah, and then it'll come back because right now I think the plan is to co-mingle some grant funds to achieve the means. But if that's not viable, then we'll have to come back to council at a future date for budgetary requests related to this project. Is there any risk in approving? Applying for the grant. I think applying for it, yes. We've got a provision in the resolution that says this is what we're applying for. StandTech has reviewed that language and has approved it. So we're just running with a cautious approach. We're not asking for blanket approval. We're just gonna ask for approval as we need it, depending on information that we get. Bravo, this is amazing. Thank you. If you have a discussion, all in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Chair votes aye. That is approved. Okay, number 11, direct referral resolution, number 192-23-24 resolution, authorizing the appropriate city officials executed overhead electric easement for aligned energy at Evergreen Park, parcel number 59281-628-964. There it is. Gorgeous. I've never seen such a nice overhead easement.  Thank you. So there, there's Evergreen Park and what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna. Thank you. Okay, that's looking west. Let's look east. There's a line. Okay. So that line, actually this pole snapped off in that big wind that we had earlier and it need to be fixed. Well, when a lion got out there, they said, oh, we don't have an easement here. So basically to reconstruct this and put this line in, we have to get it legally described and have given permission. And that's what this is documented. So it's really, it's existing today. This is the legal proper form to grant them permission to be on our property. I'll have Liz. I'm holding permission. Yes. And the easement is limited so they can't decide to put a shed in their easement area or anything like that. It's an overhead easement only. Any damage to city property that occurs due to construction, reconstruction, et cetera would be their obligation to repair. And there is also, I believe, a height limitation incorporated into the easement so we don't run the future risk of piling on for future infrastructure needs. Is there any reason why we can't take advantage of this and just bury those? We would love to, but then because it's fairly new, a lion will say, if you want it buried, then you have to cost share and pay to have it buried. It's a little complicated. Now, sometimes if it's older projects, where we are working with them in there, they are burying stuff, but in this location, you know, yeah. Maybe if the road's reconstructed in the future, that could be part of that project. Yeah, okay. Move to approve. Second. Of course, made the second. Any other discussion? All in favor. Aye. The opposed, chair votes aye. That is approved. Next, regular meeting day, the April 9th, 2024, seeing as we exhausted the agenda, I'm looking for a motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn. Second. I'm sorry. Second. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Second. Second. All in favor. Aye. We are adjourned. It's been a long meeting. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye.