We are more than aware that the film was actually really long and it's getting very late into the night, so the way we have our panel structured is each of the panelists got their question in advance and we asked them to try to keep their reply down to about six minutes each, and then if people want to stay after the question and answer, the panel will stay here, but some of the people might, you know, need to get home and take care of themselves. And hopefully you all got one of the handouts that introduced each of the panelists, and we didn't want to take up time by doing that, but they'll have them as they speak, saying who they are and what their current, you know, sort of role or function within the world of sex offender's case. So we'll start with Gary Marvel. Hi. Hi. Go ahead. Yeah, so Gary, can you give us more of the context of the sex offender registry in Vermont? What's currently done for treatment and what kind of risk do sex offenders pose to the community, which I actually think was answered pretty well within the documentary that I forgot. So you just focus on the sex offender registry in Vermont and the treatment program. You have to ask me what you want to know about the sex offender registry, and we do have one, as you know, for the community. It's not as restrictive as you'd find in all states. Well, maybe you can explain, like, how it works, and if you're aware and other people may have answers to, like, how it impacts people in a positive or negative way, you know, who saw some of the different perspectives on it from Florida. Sure. Does that work here? No. That's filming. Oh, yeah. So, well, the sex offender registry in Vermont, you get on after being convicted of sex offence, the court alerts the registry that you're going to need to register. You're not on the registry while you're incarcerated. If you get a sentence that you go directly to the community, then you'd have to register from there. If you go from incarceration, the Vermont Department of Corrections is responsible for sending notification that you've been released so that you would then have to follow up and give them your address. And every time that information changes, as far as your phone number or where you live, that information has to be passed on to the registry. We don't have restrictions like you would see in some of the more conservative states where, like, some states, for example, they'll, like, they have automatic limitations, like, where you can live. For example, like, out in Indiana, I believe they have one where you can't live with minors if you're on the registry. We don't have any of that. Yeah. That's determined by supervision. Our state is much, much, we're kind of the polar opposite in regards to what you would see in the film. So can you talk about the, a lot of the film talks about that there's no treatment offered? What Vermont Department of Corrections does for people who are convicted of these crimes? We have, yeah, we have the TIPSA program. That's the Vermont treatment program for sexual abusers. And we, that's incarcerated. You can be on the low end, moderate or high depending on your risk assessments. And that will, that will be determining a timeframe that you'll be going to treatment. Then when you get out of treatment, it's expected that folks that are continuing on supervision will be in some form of treatment community. That's simply done by contract providers that is, is different from each county. And you will typically stay on it in, in treatment. The average I would say is expected like about three years is if you're doing well. It can go longer, but it's typically at least three years that you're going to be in some form of community treatment after release. One of the things that I forgot to say before we started the panel is that Earl, the person who was going to come and talk about his experience, having been formally incarcerated in Nicosia at the last minute sort of deciding not to come. And I think you can probably tell why from the film. We weren't sure if the media was going to be here. We didn't know if they came, if they would guarantee that he wouldn't be exposed and he just had too much concern for his children and his community and the progress that he's made. So Earl is not here. And I also forgot to mention that the Department of Corrections funds community justice centers across the state of Vermont. And one of our functions is to provide a program called Circles of Support and Accountability called the COSA program. And we can do a training in the future where we go more in depth about what COSA is and how effective it is. So essentially it recognizes that in order for people to be successful when they get out of prison they need to be like integrated into their community. And we know that many of them are marginalized before they went in. So a COSA is a reentry coordinator who works for the CJC and a team of three to four trained community volunteers who commit to working with the person who is coming out of prison for a year and to meet with them for an hour or an hour and a half a week in a group to essentially support them in their success but also hold them accountable to what their goals and visions are. And you know there's a lot that happens in a COSA. There's a bunch of reentry coordinators in here who maybe can answer questions if people have them after the panel. But it's a group of people who aren't judging. It's a group of people who are community members. The hope is that they will then in turn help connect that person further with their community. And also it's a place to have sort of a coach or a role model for how do you develop relationships in a healthy way and how do you problem solve that kind of thing. So that's essentially what the COSA program is which is what happens on reentry for sex offenders are offered. Yeah I'd just like to speak really quickly to that. When I was a probation officer that was my last gig before this. All of them, not a good number of my guys that were on Supervision with me went through COSA. And it's really a great tool. One of the things I really enjoyed about it was that I can only spend maybe a half hour a week with any number of my offenders. I might be seeing them in their homes. I might be seeing them at work more often than I see them in the office. I don't really get to know them except from what I read and what I learn about them from their treatment providers. The volunteers spend a tremendous amount of time just sort of helping reintegrate them into a normal life. It's really a helpful tool for them but it's also a helpful tool for Supervision. Because you can observe how folks are doing and they can talk to me freely about it and we can have conversations. It doesn't have to be such a punitive approach or somebody struggling. We can work with them to, for example, if I think that they're really having a hard time developing pro-social activities to do. That would be observed maybe by their volunteers and we can talk about that. That's something I'm going to be able to observe on my own. I can just kind of extrapolate based on what I'm hearing. And that sort of mantra that underlies the program is no more secrets and no more victims. So the community, it's a role that community members can play as volunteers in contributing to the safety in their communities. So we're going to hold for questions and answers till after we go through the panel. So next we have Tony. What do you think the sex registry and related laws and how the animal issue is in Vermont? It's an interesting and probably challenging question for me to answer. So I'm going to share a bit about my story and then I'll loop around to it. But the reason I'm on the panel is because I am someone who was the victim of childhood sexual abuse and it was my father. And in 2009 I decided to, for a variety of reasons, to do some research on my grandfather because I knew very little about him. I knew that he had shot himself in the heart with a .35 caliber rifle at a gold mining camp outside of Chicken, Alaska. I knew he was a womanizer. I knew he was a bootlegger. And that he had committed his toward my grandmother to the Fergus Falls and St. Asylum in 1923 where she remained for 40 years. I knew those things. And I began, I went to Minnesota and I started at the St. Asylum. I went north to Fief River Falls where my grandparents had lived over to the Red Lake Indian Reservation where I have many relatives on the Ojibwa nation. And down through Nibish where my father grew up where my grandparents lived and down into Bemidji. And when I hit Bemidji I went to their historical society and I really love historical societies. I found this book. It's called Nibish Book of Memories. And in it I found some information about my grandparents. And I found the photo of a woman who I had recognized as a childhood name from growing up. And so I contacted Angie. Angie was 80 something at the time. I have little photos. There's me with Angie. She said she knew my grandmother and took, taken care of her when she got, was released from the Insane Asylum because my grandmother actually was not insane. But had spent 40 years there. She was out for three years and Angie helped care for her. But she said, go see my aunt who was 99. Her name is Anna. She knew both of your grandparents. No one had ever known both of my grandparents. I find this 99 year old woman and this is Anna. And when I walk into her assisted care home she hands me this photo. It's my aunt. It's from 1927. It's my paternal aunt. And on the back it says Mae Cook, daughter of the notorious Frank Cook of Nebish. I felt so sorry for her. I took care of her for a summer while her grandfather was in prison. And I asked Anna, my grandfather was in prison. And she said, yep. And she would not tell me the crime. So I am forever indebted to the Department of Corrections of Minnesota. I called them. They said, well try the Historical Society, which I did. They said they might have the records. I needed an indictment number. So I contacted a researcher, because I'm now back in Vermont, who had previously worked with the Historical Society. And we agreed upon five hours of work that she would do to search for information. She did her five hours. Thankfully knew the librarian from having worked there. And the librarian asked her, what are you looking for? And she said, well I'm trying to find out if this man spent time in prison at Stillwater State Penitentiary. And the woman said, oh come here. I have a secret card catalog behind the counter. And it lists all the inmates that have ever been in the penitentiary. And sure enough, under my family name, we found my grandfather. And she filled out the appropriate work. And the archivist went down into the bowels of the Minnesota Historical Society and came back with 350 pages documenting my grandfather's criminal history with the primary crime being, at the time it was called, Carnal Knowledge of Girls Under the Age of 18. So when I heard that truth, my whole central nervous system actually relaxed because my life made sense. And in that moment too, interestingly, my father was forgiven. Notice that I didn't forgive my father. My father was forgiven. It just happened. And then it was my grandfather. And I, because there was something, it was about him. I had to read through those documents. It is stunning what was in those documents. And I wish I had more time to share it because I love sharing it. And it took me quite a while to have to work through it. You know, the DNA I carry is that of a man who did Mabel, Maude, and there's other girls actually. And one of them was related to Anna, which is why she wouldn't tell me the crime. And he did commit my grandmother to silence her. So I needed to come to terms with that and have done that. And many some of you have heard this. But in 2014 I decided to attend the sentencing of a sex offender. About the time that I had started my search about my grandfather, a horrendous crime was committed in this state. Michael Jakes kidnapped, raped, and killed his 12-year-old niece. And I could never look at the paper during that crime. But in 2014 I saw this picture on the front of the paper and I actually read the article and didn't have a whole nervous breakdown or panic attack or anything else. I read the article and the sentencing was happening on Tuesday, that next Tuesday in Burlington, and I went. And I went because I wanted to see where I was in my healing process. Could I go there and keep my heart open to him? There is no doubt I keep my heart open to Brooke Bennett. In fact, I often speak because she gave her life for this cause.  And again, but I stayed. I went there to see, could I keep my heart open to him? It's tough to live in the world when you hate yourself because of your DNA. And during the sentencing, Brooke's grandmother spoke. And at one point she pointed her finger at Michael Jakes and said, look at me, look at me. And he did. And she said, there is nothing good about you. And in that moment for me, because she came right through into me and it was a moment of healing for me. One, I got for the first time in my entire life that yes, there is. There's something good about him because I am the daughter of one of him and my two kids are the grandkids. He was born like you and me, a vulnerable and innocent baby and something happened. And the other thing that happened in that courtroom is I had a vision. I'm a developmental psychologist. I play with consciousness as my art. It's what has healed me. And I saw how we can end this crime. We have what it takes to do it. We totally do. And so getting back to the question at hand, and I haven't gotten my warning yet. I'm doing pretty good.  We have to name the evil, the crime. We've got to stop it. But we can't do it if we only see the bad. We have to see the good. And I don't care if it's someone who has victimized or it's someone who's been a victim. You need to see our goodness and help us see that and pull that out so that we can see that there's more to us than the toxic shame that resides once you've been victimized or the toxic shame that can be there if you have victimized. Or, you know, so we need to know and see the goodness in all of us so that that is something that we can work on. We can build. I know for a fact my grandfather was a really good hunting and fishing guide. I know that he really cared about horses and cows. People called him to take care of their animals. And I know he's a really good shot. He could throw a quarter up and he could shoot it and hit it every time. There's good things about everybody. So if we draw those out, then the problems can become lesser and the good things can become bigger. So COSAs, what I think in Vermont is it's awesome that we have COSAs. We need them for victims too. We all need support. These crimes, these abuses happen in relationship. They can only be healed in relationship. There's no other way to do it. You isolate any human being. They're going to go into survival instincts and they're going to do something to survive. That's what we do. Any one of us would. We are them. Whoever the them is, we are them. So I totally applaud the COSAs that we have in this state. We need more of that. We need community. We need people who care enough to care enough about this world to get over our fear and our importance and everything else to see the goodness in each and every one of us and to draw that out so that the other crap that we do as humans, none of us is pure in here, so that that no longer makes sense, but the connection, the love, and the care does. So that's what I think about the state of Vermont's law, that we just need more of that. And we absolutely have to have prison. You know, there's people that may not have this. I mean, Jake's earned his right to stay in prison for life plus 70. Not a problem. But while he's there, he could be doing something to restore justice to those he harmed. I don't know if he is or not, but I believe he, I know he's got family. I believe he has a daughter. You know, there needs to be more done no matter what, where we are, whether they're in prison or out, and for the families of the victims that allow people to heal and to be restored and reintegrated into the community. So now I've really been kicked off. So thank you. Actually go to the FAST. There you go. I'll ask you more to Paul. You've chosen so many interesting topics for your films. How many challenges have you chosen for your current project? Well, I often joke because I've been making documentary films for 25 years and when you go down the list, it's like my first film I made on domestic violence, I've made a movie about a girl who was murdered, I've made movies on foster care, heroin addiction, opiate addiction, eating disorders, and now I'm doing the COSA program about people coming out of jail. So it's not exactly running to the fields with daisies in your hair. It's all, you know, challenging issues that Vermont deals with and of course the world deals with. You know, I mean, for me as a documentary filmmaker, this film that I'm making, I've finished, shooting the film, I'm now editing it. It's going to tour next fall through Vermont. It's about five people coming out of prison in Vermont.  The other people are drug dealers, addicts, sexual assault, domestic violence folks. And so none of them are, you know, they all have challenges and they're all coming out of prison. They're all going into COSAs and so I follow five of them through this process and the film will be about that. And for me, I'm just really interested in the backstory. I'm really interested in looking behind the headlines, quote, unquote, that we often get as community members of just sort of the fear, the fear thing of, you know, there are all these people out there, whether they're a heroin addict or whether they're a sexual sex offender and that we have to be fearful of them and that they have to be punished. And that's fine at some level but for me as a documentary filmmaker I want to find out who these people are like you were saying. What is their background? What are the systemic reasons for making them be this way? And the idea that there is more to them than the worst thing that they've done.  We move on, we get through that, we learn from it, so on and so forth.  He's 32 he's smart, he's funny, he has a job at the Dunkin Donuts in a particular town in Vermont. His employers love him, he's the best worker there. He goes to a book group every week with two little old ladies who think he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. He's adorable, he's got so much potential. And A, I would just like to say that he's extremely brave to be in my movie. Extremely brave because he's going to be there on a big screen like that people who are in this movie, they were very brave to speak out and we're not going to fuss his face, we're not going to change his name and people are going to hear his story and you know the deal with him is that he actually had an obsession with form. He got connected got sucked into younger girls and connected with somebody online who he was going to meet. He was I think 23, she was 14 and he pulled into the parking lot and it was a sting and so the police came and they arrested him immediately took him to jail so he actually never did anything wrong. I mean he never hurt anybody. He was definitely going down that road, it was not a good thing but I think one of the big challenges in all of this is that it's not that far from concerned the word sex offender needs to be changed to a number of different categories of sex offender because I think when we think of sex offender, we think of the guy who has kidnapped two girls and put them in his basement and released them for 5 years or 10 years. That's bad. That's really really bad. That's one end of the spectrum. The other end of the spectrum is this kid who was going down the road got caught and now he's on a sex offender registry for 15 years and was trying to put his life together. So one of the first things I would like to talk about is different categories and names that we can try to get people in our society to start to recognize at different levels of sex offence so that not everybody is thrown into the same pot. So that's a long answer to your question. The film hopefully will spark conversation. We're going to tour the film with the people in the movie so that we Q&As afterwards with those people and we need more poses. They are incredibly important. Such a simple concept it's like instead of telling people come out of jail and throwing them onto the street and saying good luck we actually say hey why don't you come and sit in a circle with us and we'll help you integrate back into the community.  It's like what you were saying. Throw them into this little corner and say go keep over to that side of the railroad track.  You're alienating. Go over there. Do you think that when they go over there that we're safer? I don't. I want to know what these people are doing. I want to help them become better citizens. I don't want them overhearing some creepy little corner where they can easily do the same thing. I don't care if they're a heroin addict.   We need to bring them towards us instead of pushing them away. Thank you. That's how they can see when the same room is Ron Booker. So you should talk to Tom Bell. Okay. So next we're going to go to Sharon and I served on a Cosa with Earl who is mine here tonight. Can you share with us what motivated you to volunteer with the Cosa specifically and what was your thoughts about it? So what motivated me to serve on a Cosa is actually something that hasn't really come up in the conversation yet tonight or in the movie directly which is that I believe that when we send people to prison we as a society are actually inflicting great harm on those people that are in prison. And while I have a lot of emotions and a lot of philosophical beliefs and a lot of reasons why I'm working with Cosa really when they sent the question ahead of time that is the core for me is that I believe that we are doing harm to people when we send them to prison. And I feel like as a member of society I want to do what I can to help alleviate or remediate some of that harm that's important to me. It's concise. That's what it's about. Some other things that are coming up just hearing the other people speak that Cosa is funded by the DOC Department of Corrections I don't like being part of the DOC and when I've been in two COSAs so far and it's been very important to me when I sit down with folks in the first or second visit to say just so you know I'm not the DOC please don't treat me like the DOC I'm not paid by the DOC I am beholden to agreements with the DOC just like you are and so let's figure this out together because as a Cosa volunteer we are technically volunteers of the DOC and have to sign on to a whole bunch of agreements about agreements about my behavior in the Cosa which I don't always agree with and I feel like that just gives me even more empathy for the person who's coming out of prison who has a list of agreements with the DOC their conditions of release that makes my little list look ridiculous ridiculously puny when we talk about people coming out imagine how hard it is to get a job so one of the things I'm learning about through Cosa is what people actually have to deal with when they come out of prison and part of it is the stigma that so many of us carry about whatever their crime was but there are also a lot of conditions which I personally would have a really hard time living with so every time Earl would go to get a job which he needs to get because he has to pay for housing which he needs to get because he has to pay for his own they call it programming so that the required therapies the conditions of his release he has to go to this certain programming he needs to pay for that he's got to pay for his own food there are all kinds of things he has to pay for so what's one of his first tasks find a job what's one of the requirements of his being released serving the end of his sentence in the community because that's technically what he's doing every time he has a job interview if he's offered a job so just think about the thing that you maybe feel most ashamed about in your life or the thing that's maybe the hardest for you to talk about and imagine having to share that every time you're offered a job and you know how many jobs are you going to get so I you know I could bask in the light of everybody talking about how great COSA is and oh thank you for the volunteers but I have to say that for me it's an invaluable learning experience and it gives me a window into lives and conditions and things that I'm actually a part of by being part of this society that my tax dollars go towards that I would not otherwise have access to I learn a lot about our criminal justice system I learn a lot about our department of corrections I learn a lot about the amazing fortitude and resiliency it takes to be able to come out of prison and function in society so thank you and lastly we'll go to Patty Foss who's got a lot of research on the program you can share with us what you've learned well let's see so I've been doing research on COSA for 10 years or so and a couple things one is that it really is a practice that's based on research evidence so for example sex offenders in particular one of their risk factors that makes them more likely to reoffend is isolation and so the social supports that are part of COSA are really essential the other thing in you know echoing what you said is that being in prison itself is criminogenic which means increases your likelihood of reoffending all other things being equal so they come out with a lot of barriers and obstacles and one of the reasons that COSA works is because it is not DOC the volunteers the fact that they're paid volunteers is what a lot of the core members the people who had a COSA have said is what was really powerful to them that ordinary citizens would spend their time trying to help them and you know in so far as the volunteers function quite differently than the DOC they're actually adding a different value you know because otherwise they might look like a pearl board or something but they actually manage to help people stay within those very stringent conditions by doing things like driving them if they're not allowed to drive spending time with them and when they're most effective it's when they help the core member to develop another self another person persona in the world or another narrative about themselves so the research also shows that sometimes and commit to that are people who can are allowed the space to see themselves as something other than a criminal so there's a lot of things in our system where we're reminding them that they're criminals and that they are offenders and that no matter what they're trying to do we're sort of waiting for them to re-offend or we are putting all these sorts of things in place it's very difficult for them to forget for a second and I'm not saying that we should ask them to forget we still need to hold them accountable but to the extent that we can help them develop other parts of themselves the more ordinary conventional parts so for example Koso sometimes will do things like okay well yeah you did this terrible thing, we've talked about it you've done your time what else are you besides that what did you used to like to do and you know or what have you always wanted to learn to do and somebody would say oh I used to like to go fishing okay let's go fishing and then your you can see yourself as someone who can hang around ordinary people doing ordinary things and you know have a place at the table basically also because a lot of times people have been in for a long time and they're really institutionalized they don't know how to function on the outside quite and so the team can actually help adjust to things like well here's how you use a cell phone they didn't have cell phones when you went in and let's just go buy groceries and you know whatever these sorts of things are but it also communicates really powerfully I think the community's willingness to say you know we are going to hold you to a standard but we're also going to let you be among us and basically welcome you back into the community and based on all the research that sort of approach is absolutely going to be the more effective one isolation the film talks a lot about the registry and notification has these very perverse effects they do at a minimum nothing but potentially have really negative effects and it's not hard to imagine why right so just from a policy standpoint I mean I understand we have to have the registries and I know that Vermont is actually much more humane and in fact Vermont the tips is famous all over the world for having pretty good results so there's all kinds of things Vermont does you know way better than a lot of other places and one of which is funding COSA and trying to create mechanisms for people to reintegrate back into communities and I assure you that other states are not doing that especially Florida yeah especially Florida I mean so so it's my experience is that it is simple but profound and the simplicity is just treating people as if they could be something other than just the worst thing that they ever did so thank you all very much for your amazing comments excuse me I don't want to I'm going to open it up to questions if you want to okay I would I'm going to speak I'm going to speak I'm going to speak everybody can hear me everybody can hear me right I'm going to speak to the film itself and some of the comments that have been made and let me preface that I am a person who has survived multiple instances of sexual abuse since childhood I also have a family member who at a very young age committed a sex offense and is on the registry I believe that there are multiple issues I mean I couldn't be a black woman in America without looking at our criminal justice system and seeing everything that is wrong with it not only in relation to sex offenders but to people who commit crimes in general there is no rehabilitation there is no forgiveness we said all of that I want to be a little bit less warm and fuzzy about sex offenders right and every adjective that you use in relation to sex offenders are things that people who have been victims of sexual assault feel the desolation the sort of isolation all of that what that felt for me was so every sex offender was a good person every sex offender might be a good person but there is something between here and here there was no middle ground and I am not hearing any middle ground all I want is to acknowledge that this is a reciprocal as crime is this is reciprocal and so for whatever level of empathy and sympathy and sort of move to recognize the humanity of the offender that for this particular kind of crime we need to do equal time to the people who have suffered at the hands of these offenders and this is not about forgiveness it's not about not healing this is reality right that people spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to get right from coming back from sexual assault there are people who never recover whose lives are ruined as a result of sexual assault that doesn't take away from anything that I have heard here but I need to say that I need to give equal time to the people who have suffered at the hands of these people however good they are not detracting from their humanity but I need to say that we need to think about though the other side of this as well yep absolutely very good Tony mentioned that there should be cases available for victims I appreciate you saying that Jim another question hi I'm here to talk about the movie about Cosa program I'm a sex offender I did 10 years in jail I wasn't a very good person growing up I didn't like myself I didn't like people I've been to every other program in jail but I moved to jail this wire house people and they pretty much shopped me to sleep in there one day I heard about Cosa these people come out and talk to me Chief of the police South Carolina team Cosa and I listened to them and they come back and begin to talk to me and I'm ready to get out and I had my doubts and all that like I said I didn't care about people I didn't care about getting out it is scary getting out it really is without the Cosa team South Carolina team and one person Cosa team I don't think I'd be here today I consider myself a good person right now my main objective is about to re-event ever begin I hurt two people not physically but mentally Cosa is people I really care they're beautiful people they give people another chance they're there to listen they're there to help you my Cosa team is awesome I could tell tell them anything anything at all anything that's going on I had no problem with that before I had I never told anybody anything the biggest thing is accountability I love it I hated it at first but I love it now it's just amazing since I've been in Cosa my life has turned around 100% I think every day I do well every day I do what I'm supposed to do since I've been in Cosa I've been in trouble one time when I first got out it is scary when you get out like I said I did 10 years it's scary and I laugh about the cell phone thing when I get out I had no idea about the cell phone and it's not working and that's why I was laughing I wasn't laughing at somebody I was laughing at because the experience with the cell phones was terrible for me I didn't know anything about it Cosa is giving me a chance to meet different people to sit down and talk with people honestly I can pick up the phone anytime I want if I have a problem and I know one of my Cosa people will be right there if I meet them 24 hours a day they're understanding people like I said they're beautiful my team is beautiful I don't ask for a better team they got to be more Cosa's in jail that's all they do is wirehouse people okay there's no programs here besides AA I know I did 10 years straight in the jails and that's all they talk about is robbing people where they're going to get your next drug we need more Cosa people we need more people to understand and give other people a second chance yes I am a sex fender today I'm a good person before I wasn't a Cosa that's where I am today and we do need more Cosa people because I believe Cosa works I see it works so many times I know so many people that are in Cosa right now clients that are happy today they have jobs when you get out of jail you go look for a job and you say well yeah I'm a sex fender 99% of the time there's got to be another way of telling people you're a sex fender different names, different categories they got to be because everybody there's a thing that everybody you're a sex fender our life means that you're a bad person that you're a piece of shit excuse my language you're a piece of shit and you're no good and there's so many good people I made a mistake a big mistake and I still think about my victims two boys 113, 114 I understand why you done it I did before I take full responsibility I don't blame around anybody that was on me my decision I take full responsibility but I just want to say we need a lot more closer because it's just amazing people are just understanding caring, passionate they're there to help they're there to give people another chance and God we need closer please help us, thank you thanks for the fun anybody else, somebody I just have a couple of questions one is every are all people in the correctional system offered an opportunity to participate in a possible program when they're released and I guess the second curiosity question how many people do then become part of the COSA then accept those services that's a moderate to high risk generally are the ones that are offered to us and I don't know the reasons people do accept the first bill I know that the ones that do tend to have a lower rate of re-offense and tend to go to jail as often that's why we support it Derek do you want to say anything we have the director from the Department of Corrections of all the restorative justice programs formally say that as I pointed out we have a target population of folks who have been classified as high risk under high need and within that we try to prioritize for sure folks who have committed sexual offenses anyone who has committed a sexual offense that's classified as high risk in high need is essentially afforded that opportunity if they're willing and then we kind of drop down if you will to a broad into pool however there's more folks that for their the capacity we would offer closest to and of those that are given the opportunity I'd say the vast majority take it and follow in part because they offer the opportunity based on the informed decision of their case worker too willingness to engage and have a group of folks along their life is a key part so that's what this is also a restorative approach predicated on the voluntary decision to join so how can you talk more about that I can say I've been in my position for over two years in Chittinac County and lots of people don't choose to ask to have a COSA and there's lots of reasons why I mean it's a trust and a lot of people don't have that trust it's a big commitment but in the two years that I've been here there hasn't been anyone who asked for a COSA they didn't get it so I think in our area lack of housing has actually kept people out of COSA and so I think that's an important reality check that it's not just what the volunteer pool is not just the DOC selection process is that we can't seem to offer people housing housing is a big issue and you have any other questions right just one second I served it was really enlightening for me I'm not a sex fit I do have a history of drugs which you know you don't need it you don't need to be on a registry for you still have a history that people can look up and hold against you but I do have a question about the woman in the movie who was on the registry for life and the situation where she had gotten a job in the newspaper after disclosing her from the background and someone decided that due to perception that it wouldn't be a good fit for her to be on that job now this might seem wild and crazy but I do wonder if there's a the damage is there is there a lawsuit there like to lose a job due to perception and something that would be able to do anything wrong but it was a great work it was a great work it's quite a hard to pursue the damage as far as I'm aware but I can tell you that I just want to just to dispel the negative and I apologize this is kind of your day experience that anyone here has had or seen but I'm actually continually impressed by a lot of employers most of my guys some of them are strong that's the majority of them and I think that's been a shift I think that's been a shift that's happened in the last few years but we would often find employers who would actually start calling the POS who handled sex offender cases asking if we had one if we had a jail because they found that folks who are on for sexual offenses had a hire will they tend to be good workers they're not necessarily as broad and homogenic as you might find with other offenders just to dispel that myth that there is employment out there and a lot of employers are willing to give people a chance and that might be unique to this day I don't know how that works across the country I imagine it's pretty unique any other questions looks like that anybody have anything else I want to say say your question is allowed to put out there woman who I don't know your name Margaret but I really appreciate what you said and I think that part of for me what it's all about is sort of what you were talking about is there needs to be healing on all ends of the spectrum and I don't think we do enough of that at all in this country and the voices of people who are victims of her, the voices of people who are coming out of jail and want a second chance and really want to turn their life around for me to be heard and if somehow we can raise those standards I think we would have a healthier society part of the you know alienation of being victimized you feel alienated feeling like you're you victimize somebody it hasn't worked for a really, really long time and so I really appreciate what you said and I think we all need to come together around this and forgive forgive this is really hard and stigma is really hard and you can have stigma as a victim and you can have stigma as a person who was a sex offender or a drug dealer or a drug addict and it's all bad because as long as you have stapling you're never going to heal man you're just never going to heal the rest of your life so you can get me on that I just wanted to also thank the gentleman who was on supervision for coming to it's a lot of courage I'm glad that we have somebody who's been through it here to talk about it thank you for sharing and I'll second what you said and to Margaret as a victim myself it is stunning what it takes for a victim to heal it is stunning and many just don't and it's I've been very fortunate I've got a good education and an opportunity to give a lot of good help but there's so many of us that do suffer from and I count myself among these in bad metastatic disorders, addictions all depression all kinds of things and so often when we see people who are addicted or I know I'll have other issues going on having some compassion and hearing the people's stories before we label them as important because we do need to be seen all the way through so that women can be seen in us and we can have a chance to clear ourselves of the shame that goes with it and all the other symptoms that come because of it so I absolutely appreciate and applaud and yes but you know also the women largely women incarcerated women are most of them are survivors of sexual violence so it's a cycle it's a system that just goes round and round and so I was in complete agreement that it begins with the way in which we deal with humans in general no matter what the situation is no matter what quote criminal it doesn't matter we have to figure out a way to work with humans in a more active way that isn't punishment so people can understand how their behaviors hurt other people how they somehow affect the humanity of another person whether it's from the point of incarceration whichever that from being is the key and the criminal justice system is not the answer and we connect center to center we can start there by connecting with our humanity called our origination point and we can connect from that place together we're connected and then we can work on the crap we have to work on and then we'll have an open affair so absolutely finding opening our hearts and finding humanity in every person that's in everyone of us so thank you for bringing that up so I want to thank all of our panelists if we could be different I want to thank all of you for


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Hey friends! Tonight we are hanging out at Disney's Hollywood Studios. Christmas is just four days away so I wanted to come out and show you guys what the parks are like and also I got a dining reservation at 50s primetime cafe so I figured we'd ride some rides, eat some food and have a merry Hollywood Studios kind of day. Anyhoo, let's go do this. Christmas week is definitely one of the busiest weeks at Walt Disney World so I'm not too sure what we can get accomplished but I am intrigued to see what the wait times are gonna be at some of the attractions and at least we got a dining reservation at 50s primetime cafe. I've been craving a nice chicken pot pie and I hear they have a really good one. It's been really cold here in Florida the past couple of days. The temperature has been getting as low as the 30s and 40s and they even issued a falling iguana warning. That's whenever the temperature gets so low the iguanas stiffen up and they fall out of trees so I think a nice hot chicken pot pie sounds really good. My birthday was two days ago and I had such an amazing time. My friends actually threw me a surprise party at the boathouse and it was awesome. I didn't make any videos I kind of just chilled out and relaxed for the day but I had a great birthday and thank you guys for all the amazing birthday wishes. I really felt loved. I want to go check out the wait times for the attractions but I do want to point out that genie plus is $25 for today. $25 and I'm not gonna be buying it because as of right now 2 p.m. there are no lightning lanes available like I think there might be a couple of for Star Tours and maybe the Frozen Singalong but that's not until like 7-8 o'clock tonight. Looks like Star Wars Rise of the Resistance is 150 minute wait. Smuggler's run is 85 minutes. Oh Rock and Roller Coaster is 125 minutes. Tower of Terror is 125 minutes. Mickey and Minnie's run away where away is 105 minutes. Basically almost everything is over a hundred minutes or over an hour. Everything is over an hour except for early and swirling saucers. That's 50 minutes. I just counted it up and there are five attractions with a hundred plus minute wait time so that is a very busy day and there's not many attractions here at the park itself. I don't even I feel like between Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom those are probably the two parts with the least amount of attractions but Hollywood Studios makes it easier because they're so close to each other and I don't see ourselves getting on a lot of rides. I can spend all day here and not ride anything. I just enjoy being in the parks and especially during the holiday season but I still want to try to ride something at least. Maybe we'll be able to do Toy Story Mania or if I could pick any ride to ride today like it would be Tower of Terror or Slinky Dog Dash but I don't want to wait two hours for it. I think we're just gonna evaluate the situation after we have lunch. It's just about that time to check in at 50s Prime Time Cafe and maybe some of the wait times will go down. Usually sometimes they will drop down after 2 o'clock because some people is gonna be park hopping but we'll just see right now I gotta get myself a chicken pot pie. It's time to head back to the 50s and this restaurant is such a fun restaurant. I actually wish I brought my mom and sister here. I think they would enjoy it a lot and they've got like great different entrees. They have Aunt Liz's Golden Fried Chicken, a sampling of mom's favorite recipes where you get some chicken, some pot roast, some meatloaf, all the fixings and I was interested in trying Grandpa Jean's Chicken Pot Pie. Like I've never had it before but I really want to get it. It sounds I mean like I said it's kind of pot pie weather and also maybe some chicken noodle soup. Won't mind some chicken noodle soup and some pot pie. The food itself here is kind of mid. I mean I'm kind of excited to try the chicken pot pie but like the chicken's good, the meatloaf's okay but what you're really paying for is the atmosphere. It is truly awesome in there.  They yell at you to put your cell phones away and keep your elbows at the table and if you eat everything you get a little sticker that says you join the clean plate club. So you get like a clean plate club and I just love it. It's a real fun time. The restaurant itself is themed like a 50s kitchen and a 50s living room. Look at this in here. It looks so cool and they even have like a family of the day. It's the first family that comes in and they get their photo taken. It gets printed out and put on the fridge. December 21st, 1952. I really want to be the family of the day though. I'm just going to show up myself and just be here. The first family day just me. Some of the tables are set up just like this and you get to sit down and watch TV and it's my dream to actually own one of these televisions where it says Disney and then WD here. Like if I can get anything from like any of the parks I think I would want this. I think it would be, it'd be a life goal to own that. But how cool is this? Let me know if any of this stuff looks familiar like you would see it hanging at your house or your grandma's house. Now that we are at our table I decided I am going to go with Grandpa Jean's pot pie but I just found out they don't have the chicken noodle soup anymore. They have tomato soup so I'm not the biggest fan of that so I think maybe just the pot pie but I do I'm gonna miss the chicken. You know like sometimes when you branch out and get some like different items you're gonna miss the ones that you normally get.  She literally just fed that man his green beans and I think that is hysterical. I better make sure I eat all my vegetables. I also decided I'm getting an Arnold Palmer and it is my responsibility to set the table. I'm gonna set the table for myself so I'll put this all together got my forks and my knives. I don't want to get yelled at and there we go perfect. Since I'm not getting any appetizers I might actually get the peanut butter jelly milkshake which is a classic here. I'll get it for dessert though because I'm only drinking milkshakes beforehand. Jingle bells jingle bells jingle all the way oh what fun it is to ride in a one horse open sleigh and here it is Grandpa Jean's pot pie look at this they actually just added this back to the menu and I love it it's like a little garlic flaky crust on top there lots of filling oh I'm kind of happy I got this and I hope I won't be disappointed because I do want to try that I am gonna miss the fried chicken. Here we go time to dive in. I'm gonna take a little bit of the crust get a little bit of the chicken gotta get something a little bit of everything in one bite it's a little too big of a bite so I'll take some of that off here we go so good wow my favorite thing about this pot pie is that it's baked in a buttery flaky a buttery bakey a buttery a buttery a buttery a buttery bakey flaky crust baked in a buttery flaky crust baked in a buttery flaky crust if you guys know you know that is one of my all-time favorite viral videos and it just cracks me up all the time but it is so good like I love this so much and I like the peas the chicken very good definitely gonna be a proud member of the clean plate club it's really fun just sitting here eating food and watching like old Mickey cartoons and also like old 50s sitcoms like Dennis the menace was on here and a lot of other really cool ones that's excellent look at these tongue marks I didn't have to wash this plate I did good clean plate club the president we're looking for a new one oh I volunteer is trivial clean plate club look at that the president of the clean clean plate club I feel honored yes I'm gonna get a lot we got to get your outfit together a pair of sewing isn't my thing yes so you're now the president of the club I'm gonna wear this the rest of the day well I really think you should because everyone's gonna know you ate all your vegetables and then they'll come up and they'll be like yeah he was a good boy so even let you stay out after dark time even though you're supposed to be home in the street like come on cuz it's perfect look at that sweet oh there you go everyone's gonna know who you are all day Julia I'm gonna keep this forever look at this so awesome cousin Quinn was probably the best server I have ever had in my life she was so amazing and it's such a memorable experience like I couldn't just stop watching her interact with everybody and I loved it so much the pot pie was phenomenal I did miss my friend fried chicken but you know sometimes you got to mix it up but can you imagine if they added like that chicken pot pie like grandpa jeans pop pie to the mom sampling that would be like epic and I skipped out on the milkshake because I think maybe we'll go somewhere else and get some dessert there's a lot of cool Christmas themed treats around the Hollywood studios and might as well do something I want to walk around and wear this all day but I don't want it to get ruined because I really do love it so much so I might buy a bag I might just go ask for a bag and put it in there for safekeeping but look at that president of the clean plate club I knew I'd be the president of something I'll just keep wearing it for a little bit I really do love it though I think it's so cool and it really just shows like the magic of like Disney parks like that is such an amazing interaction people talk about like going up to meet you know their favorite characters and stuff like that but like it's so awesome how impactful like just like some of the cast members at work in the restaurants and inside the stores and how much they can actually improve someone's vacation or make their day and I love that sadly it looks like things didn't get better it actually got busier rise of the resistance is at 160 minute wait tower of terror is at 160 minute wait now Mickey minis is still at a hundred I wonder what slinky dog dash almost slinky dogs at 140 and smuggler's run is at 115 so it didn't work in our favor I still want to walk back to Toy Storyland just in case maybe the wait times aren't what they actually are and I would really love to ride slinky dog dash Woody's got his Christmas scarf on and also they're showing off a little bit of the construction for Woody's round-up barbecue they actually released a couple of photos on the inside this is gonna be the new sit down restaurant in Hollywood Studios it's gonna be like a barbecue themed restaurant and let me know if you guys have seen some of it's literally gonna be right here and I'm excited I mean they need another sit down restaurant here but I don't know if it's gonna fit like what they need I feel like they need like maybe upscale restaurant they only have the brown derby to go off of I honestly feel like every other park has multiple like upscale sit down restaurant except for Hollywood Studios they have the brown derby and I wouldn't consider sci-fi or fifties or Hollywood and Vine or Mama Melrose or Woody's round up to be upscale so like I feel like they need to add one to the you know the list I mean honestly just think about it like at Animal Kingdom they have Tiffins and then they also have what you will call it Tusker House I would consider Tusker House an upscale that kind of establishment even though it's character dining because it's like a little bit different food you know I mean it's definitely a culinary experience looks like the standby line is actually coming all the way out onto the bridge here so that is not a good sign it says 150 minutes and I believe it but I really do want to ride Slinky Dog Dash it's so much fun especially with the jingle bells oh the line is so long they actually sent out the toy shoulders to actually do their drumming to keep people occupied as they wait but they're actually in the queue doing that for a minute and I really thought about it I was like I want to ride Slinky Dog Dash but do I want to dedicate three hours to this line right now three hours and I think I'm gonna pass I think I'm gonna pass on the three-hour way what I can do is sneak in the Galaxy's Edge and use my single rider hack on Smuggler's Run and I bet you at this time of the day like especially using the secret passageway it might only be a 10 minute wait I think we're gonna do that I think we're gonna go see what it's like Smuggler's Run along with Rocket Roller Coaster have single rider lines a lot of people know that but they don't know that Smuggler's Run actually has two separate single rider lines and one of them nobody knows about I'm gonna take you guys in and show you what I'm talking about but I'm not too sure how effective it is today especially because of how busy it is like today is an extraordinary like busy day and we'll see I still think it might do us good right now the standby wait is a hundred and five minutes hundred and five minute wait and we're gonna try the single rider line try our secret passageway and we'll see what it ends up being like the long wait or not but here we go we're at an end it is now officially 353 353 once you go in the single rider line you keep walking until you see a staircase and it's straight on but right to the left there's another staircase that a lot of people miss and that actually takes you up to the attraction too right here it is you just keep walking in and you'll see you'll run into some people up here yep see this is where the line starts but if you go back this way and you go up this staircase fingers crossed look at this bada bing two minute wait two minute wait now of course because I did a single rider line and I didn't wait I walked right on I'm gonna be the engineer so I'll be sitting in the back so if you are looking for that covenant pilot spot I would recommend doing the standby line but look at that seriously looks like I got a nice bunch of recruits we've got to get three coaxium this time three all right I love that ride and I love being engineer I know a lot of people don't like it but I love being like teamed up with like a family and especially that family because they were so fun they never wrote it before so we were talking about it beforehand and they were asking what they should do and I'm like just press lots of buttons and then I told the dad I'm like just pull down on the lever whenever I say punch it and I don't think he was realizing it and I think he was just too busy trying to focus on steadying it out but that was so much fun and I love being like the hype person you know I like it come on we got this come on we can do it I think it's awesome now I think I'm gonna start making my way down sunset try to find a nice little snack I know that they have a brownie a Christmas brownie that I told was told it was really good but I want to see what else they have you know since we didn't get a dessert at 50s or should I stop at baseline I mean I do love baseline but I don't know if they got any good snacks there other than a whole pretzel but I do love the pretzel here I was traveling to sunset and then something caught my eye and I think I'm gonna go for it it's something I haven't had in a very long time I decided on going with a classic funnel cake they actually have two different types here they have a strawberry topping with soft serve and then they got the glimmer and shimmer funnel cake but they told me they don't have any of these golden cookies so I'm gonna opt just for the strawberry topping and soft serve vanilla ice cream and I'm kind of excited for it I mean $7.29 for a plain one and then an extra $1.20 you get ice cream and strawberries so made sense to me but I haven't had a funnel cake in forever holy moly I truly underestimated what I was getting myself into when I said I wanted a funnel cake how does this thing only cost $8.29 it is massive this is big enough for a whole family look at this look at how thick that is oh my lord I am so shocked right now this has to be the biggest funnel cake I have ever seen in my life and I cannot wait to try it I'm gonna give you my head for comparison without making a mess it is it's huge and we're gonna dive in here we go there's definitely a good chance I'm gonna be walking out of here covered in powdered sugar look at these strawberries look at this and you can't wait for this you gotta dive into it as it's crispy and hot oh it is too look at this because it gets soggy fast no one's got time for soggy funnel cakes have a holly jolly Christmas it's the best time of the year wow this is gonna be a miracle if I can finish all this I don't think it's gonna happen I'm trying but this is this is a lot of funnel cake maybe I have to tip over this ice cream timber there we go I'm gonna gonna do my best not to get powdered sugar all over myself or to eat the funnel cake because I just dropped it off my fork also I recommend taking some of the pieces from the side and then adding some ice cream to it because underneath this ice cream that's just all soggyness right there but it's still very good like it the combination of everything floating together is really good the faster you eat this the better so you got to eat it quick before it gets all soggy I'm telling you I hate to say it but I think I'm calling it a defeat this was just so much like I mean I did a good portion of it but I just can't finish it that is a lot of funnel cake right there and I can't save it it's already pretty much soggy so I think I did a good job with the powdered sugar too I might have a little bit of strawberry in my beard though but look at that nothing and I love how these Roosevelt sweaters don't stain like I spilled some of my coffee on me the other day and I just rubbed it off with a napkin and it disappeared these are so I love them I'm obsessed now I feel like I've come up with a very spontaneous decision since it's so busy here at Hollywood studios and we're not going to be able to ride any rides unless we wait three hours I think I'm gonna do a little change up and make our way over to the other studios universal studios because I want to see that one last time before the holiday season is over I mean I'm sure the holiday season carries on into January but I still want to go see it one more time before Christmas and I think we're going to just leave now and make our way over there it's probably going to be dark by the time we get there but it's only about 20 minutes from here so it's not too you know not too far of a drive one last thing before we actually make our way out we got to see the little Christmas cavalcade look at this Santa's coming and we got the reindeer too got the best seat in the house too look at it's snoping it's snoping it's snoping in Hollywood happy holidays Merry Christmas I'm not too sure how much I'm gonna film once I get to Universal but I always like bringing you guys along with me when I go journey you know to other places when I'm out filming and plus I have my express pass because with Universal you get your express after 4 p.m. so we're gonna be able to ride some more rides there and just like that we have made it to Universal Studios look I like how they have the Christmas colors up here at the Universal Cinemark that's actually really nice but where's the Universal sign it's still MIA and it definitely looks like it's crazy busy here holy moly the park is still open for another three hours because it closes at 9 p.m. and this is a lot of people actually leaving right now it's like a sea of people just coming our way but that makes it even better so that means the parks might not be as crowded it's kind of fun that we are able to go to both studio parks here in Orlando in one day even though NGM Studios opened up first in 1989 Universal opened up in 1990 but Universal was thought of first Michael Eisner just rushed to NGM Studios just to be able to open up before Universal opened up but this was the original you know studio park technically the thought of it is the original studio park for Orlando originally a lot of Disney's MGM Studios was actually going to be a part of Epcot which is kind of funny isn't it but then when there was talks of Universal opening up a Florida park they decided to just go all in on their own studio park I love coming to Universal during the holidays though and I haven't been back since I was here with my maja and we got to meet the Grinch it's funny I called her maja starting to feel like Austin Powers your father your father oh father we've got some Christmas elves out and about look at this did we just I think I just missed the parade maybe oh no the parade usually at like five o'clock but I do want to go see the Christmas tree so I think we're going to head down that way I'm not even sure what you would call them snowflakes snow angels I mean but they're really fun and like I said we're gonna go down to see the Christmas tree I'm just in time for the little Christmas lighting show here this is so fun and festive look at it whoo look at that this is definitely the girdiest tree out of all the theme parks I have to say she's a beaut Clark and good tradition first stop probably would have to be finnigan to get myself maybe a harp or an old-fashioned and then I want to make my way down to E.T. I love it in here and I love the live music too very funny it's always a good time in finnigans people are enjoying themselves dancing getting up on stage singing Christmas music and I decided on a little harp a little harp and now some E.T. look at all these Christmas decorations though I love this and also I hear the little street sweep we're coming by because they usually shoot off tons of confetti and snow whenever the parade comes by so then they have like this little machine that kind of cleans it all up like a big vacuum well there it is look at that doing its job this is all the stuff that I was telling so they shoot this off on the parade and that big vacuum kind of sucks it all up E.T. is one of my all-time favorite rides but I do have to say that I kind of was smelling different smells in there like different smells from what I'm used to smelling of course the bromane but I was picking up some H.A. Gen vibes and also some Pandora vibes it was very confusing to me like I was very shocked oh we just caught the tail end of the cinematics spectacular here it's so pretty actually walking through here too all the lights and everything park is closed on this side I think I'm going to try to make our way over to islands of adventure though and with that I think we are done here today I didn't film much here at Universal Studios only because I mean you can't film on the rides but I had a lot of fun we ended up going and riding E.T. I did Jurassic Park I did Spider-Man Kong and it was great like we got a lot done in just a little bit of time got to see the holidays a little bit before Christmas time and I'm excited I'm going to try to do a couple more videos before Christmas maybe hit up Magic Kingdom I wish I was able to go home and see my mom and sister but with the move and adjusting with Bracey I don't want to leave her I don't want to make her feel like alone so I think I'm just going to stay and maybe plan a big trip for January or February for my mom and sister and I think they would appreciate that too so I hope you guys enjoyed the video I enjoyed making it we'll see you next time bye


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Now that we have compared effectiveness of monetary policy to be specific we have analysed effectiveness of expansionary monetary policy in three types of models that is traditional model, new classical model and new Keynesian model. So, now we will look at the basis of policy maker, if we want to adopt a policy, then what are the three types of models that should be adopted in the way that the monetary policy maker is thinking that this type of policy will be effective. So, first of all, we have which policy we want to look at, we will analyse two types of policies. In the last lecture, we initially checked effectiveness in a framework, now we are talking about practical policy, so in policy we will analyse two types of policies, one is stabilisation policy and one is anti-inflationary policy, so in this lecture, our focus is on stabilisation policy, stabilisation policy, first of all, I would like to define what it means. Look, when the economy shocks the output, for example, the oil price has increased, the oil demand has increased, the crop has become better because of that, or the rain in the harvesting season has increased due to which the crop has been damaged, or some of your remittances have increased, so the different types of shocks that hit the economies, so as a result of that, output, that is GDP fluctuates, sometimes it is less, sometimes it is more, its growth rate is less, sometimes it increases at a normal level, sometimes it increases at a high rate, sometimes it increases at a low rate, so stabilisation means that the fluctuation in the output due to different types of shocks which are hitting the economy, then in that case, stabilisation policy means a policy intended to reduce output fluctuations, that is, because of shocks, the tendency to fluctuate in the output, but the policy should be handled in such a way that the output is not very volatile, this is what we call stabilisation policy. And in this, I had told you in a lecture that there are two types of economists or two groups from which there is an activist and a non-activist, according to the activist, the policy maker should actively stabilise the output, and according to the non-activist, it should not be stabilised because as a result of stabilisation, when the policy intervenes, as a result of stabilisation policy, the output actually becomes more volatile, this is the point of view of non-activists. Now let us look at the three models. First of all, our first model was a traditional model, in which we saw that whenever we have an expansionary policy, the output will increase, this means that if we have a contractionary policy, the output will decrease, now we have to stabilise, stabilisation means that if a shock other than monetary policy hits our economy, if it is expansionary and the output is increasing, then we will make monetary policy a contractionary policy, and if the shock comes, it is a contractionary policy, then we will make monetary policy an expansionary policy, so that the output of our natural rate of unemployment is consistent and does not deviate more than that. So, because we saw that people's expectations are not revised quickly, and people are backward looking, so because technically, according to our model, the cost of production is not completely changed, whenever an economy, especially demand shock hits an economy, then this means that in a traditional model, policy will be fully effective, this means that policy makers, if they want, then the kind of shocks that hit the economy are expansionary shocks or contractionary shocks, expansionary shocks increase our output, and contractionary shocks reduce our output to GDP, so any kind of shock can respond to policy maker because its policy is effective, and its reason is that people do not adjust their expectations at all. In contrast, if we want to see the view point of a new classical model, whether the policy maker should actively stabilise the output, then we go there and find out that in a new classical model, because people's expectations are quickly revised, then the new classical model differentiates between unanticipated inflation and unanticipated inflation, or unanticipated shock and unanticipated shock, this means that if the policy has a shock against policy change, then if it is unanticipated change, then the effects of the policy will come, this means that the policy will be able to counter the shock, and if it is unanticipated, the policy will change, then as soon as the policy changes, people will revise their expectations as well, and because people's expectations are revised, the wages and cost of production will be changed, as a result of this, the supply side will receive such changes that the resultantly policy will be ineffective, so this means that if the policy is unanticipated, then the effects will not be there, the stabilisation will not be there from the policy maker, and if the policy is unanticipated, then the effects of the policy can be there, or new classical models raise another point that sometimes even unanticipated cases where the policy can be effective, there also can be a problem, and the problem can be that in people's minds that the policy maker did not announce his policy, but he can contract his policy, and for example, he can increase the interest rate from 200 basis points, it can be that the monetary policy is actually increasing the policy rate from 100 basis points, so what will happen? The problem will be that people have overpredicted the policy change, because it was unanticipated, I do not know how much it will change, so people have overpredicted it, now if the actual monetary policy increases the interest rate from 100 basis points, then the output will actually decrease compared to the previous one, it will also decrease from the level at which the policy maker wants to keep it, this means that as a result of the stabilisation policy, there is an uncertainty created, due to which the output fluctuation does not decrease, the output fluctuation increases, this is the reason that new classical non-activists do not say that whenever the shock hits the economy, then the monetary policy should be accordingly responded, the last model was the New Keynesian model, and we know the setup of the New Keynesian model is that people's expectations are revised here, but the wages cannot be adjusted quickly due to which the cost of production cannot be adjusted quickly, the result is that if the policy is unanticipated, then the effects increase, but if it is anticipated, then it is effective, but it is less compared to the traditional model or the effectiveness of the unanticipated model in the New Classical model, it is less than that, so this means that even in this model, there is a role of stabilisation policy towards the policy maker, but in this the policy maker is uncertain that the policy that I am going to change, whether the public has its expectations or whether the public has no expectations, so the policy maker is not sure about whether the policy is unanticipated or anticipated, so this means that the effects of the policy will be there, and the intervention of the policy, where the shocks are also desirable, but remember that the effects will not be as much as in the traditional model, thank you.