All right, it is six, 15. I will call the Capital Improvements Commission to order. Chair Sorenson is present. Alderperson Trey Mitchell. Alderperson Grazi Pirella. City Plan Commission member, Jerry Jones. Sarah Harrison. Nick Dusalt. Exoficio members, Chad Palcek. Interim Finance Director. She's on vacation. Okay, and City Engineer Ryan Sasma. All right, for those in attendance, please stand for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Right, is there a motion to approve the minutes from May 20th or May 4th, 2020? Is there a second? All right, there's been a motion and a second, any discussion on the minutes? Seeing none, all those in favor, please state aye. Anyone opposed? Chair votes aye. The minutes are approved. All right, jump into 3.1, RO number 12122, submitting capital improvements program request for the years 2022 through 2026. And I will turn it over to our city administrator for his presentation. City administrator, take it away. Thank you, Mayor. Thank you, everybody. We're gonna talk a little bit about our 2022 to 2026 capital improvements program presenting today. Please understand that this is a little bit different than past capital improvements meetings, instead of having 50 or 60 items to go through and vet and radom and figure all of that out. What we did is we met with all of the department heads and we vetted everything down to basically what the expectations are, what are the needs for the departments, looking at the return on investment for projects, making sure that we have the best presentation for you guys to review. So moving forward, next. One of the points that I wanted to continue to bring up and I brought this up in my state of the city was our four priorities. So if we look at our four priorities, as you've heard me talk in the past, our number four is our roads. We have over 200 miles of roads. It's our number one city constituent concern. And it's something that is our largest asset that we need to focus on. Number three is obviously our infrastructure, buildings and ERP. And again, we have multiple facilities, millions of dollars worth of value, and we need to make sure that we're managing them and maintaining them for years to come, just like we did here with City Hall. Number two is our fleet. And when we talk about our fleet, we're talking about our cars, trucks, our snow plows, our garbage trucks, everything down to the squad cars. And we are in the process of a fleet management program that has come to council. So that's going to take a huge burden off of our capital, our general obligation, to get in the future by taking that off. And our number one asset is our employees. And that's something that we need to continue to invest in, but that'll be for future meetings. Next, capital improvements strategic plan is part of our continued stairs core values. So when we talk about that, and I keep referencing it to make sure that we keep putting it in the forefront, it's focusing on our service, our teamwork, our accountability, our innovation, our respect to one another, and our stewardship and fiscal responsibility, which we're gonna be talking a lot more in a few minutes. Next. So when we talk about capital improvements program, our CIP, we're doing a little bit of a focus shift. So we're gonna encompass our strategic plan, our core values, our long-term vision, shifting projects when necessary to maximize funding sources. That is something that's a little bit new. It's being more strategic, not just in today's needs and tomorrow's needs, but year over year and how we space them out. We're gonna integrate our interdepartmental synergies, again, using resources within our departments, whether it's engineering or financial, it's using everybody's talents, maintaining affordable levels on geo-debt, general obligation borrowed funds, and you've heard me talk about that, and we'll talk about that a little bit more in a few minutes, and continued focus on our street and infrastructure and how we're going to implement that into the future general obligation debt, and integration of our planning for future TID closures, again, balancing closures with large facility projects. So we're looking at our process and defining it more strategically. Next. So when we talk about our long-term vision, it's shifting projects when necessary to maximize funding sources, utilizing state and federal grant funds, and again, we've done a great job of that, and we're continuing to look at opportunities for grants. We also know that there's potential for additional funding in the future with a proposed infrastructure plan with the state and federal government, so we'll see how that's going to affect us, and we also have our American Rescue Plan funding, so there's opportunity there when it comes to wastewater, water, and broadband expansion, so there's funding there, and that's a reference to the 22.8 million that the city has been blessed with. Working with community partners, again, synergies, ensuring workable timing and access during project completion, and then again, vetting projects to balance urgency and capacity. We worked really hard with the departments and to better understand what the needs were, what the wants were, and in figuring out how can we look at this, not like in the years past for some of us that have been on capital improvements and kicking the can down, but how can we accomplish the needs for today and tomorrow fiscally responsible? Next. So when we talk about capital improvements to integrate in departmental synergies, we looked at global view of the city's infrastructure resources, needs and capacity. We also looked at strategically managing ongoing maintenance, replacement in buildings, equipment and infrastructure. Again, we're planning to have a better program for the future, not just fix what's broken today, but what's coming, what's gonna happen. And that's also gonna be affected by what you guys have heard me talk about, the EAM program, that module's gonna help us to better control this. Prioritizing needs, again, the enterprise asset management and that system will also allow us with our ADA compliance audit. And just to remind everybody that the ADA compliance audit is something that we have to continue to spend money on, otherwise we can get ourselves as a city into trouble. There's a lot of ADA deficiencies that we need to continue to focus on. So it's a priority for us to continue to invest in that area throughout the city. Utilizing internal SMEs, subject matter experts, we have a vast knowledge of experts that we're blessed with in our department heads and our team and staff. So we need to use those resources. We also need to pool our resources. Again, synergies between departments. Build economies of scale, maximize the cost savings. Again, purchase as a group, not as an individual. Next, capital improvements, strategic uses of fund balance. Previous capital improvements focus, geo debt funds as main funding source. Again, we always talk about geo funding and that's about it. There's other ways to get the dollars. Strategic use of fund balance. Again, this is one of the options that we have. Moody's Investors Service Consideration, Motor Vehicle Information Technology Fund, Internal Budgetary Increases, Support Ongoing Infrastructure Upgrades. Again, we're using different synergies charging each department for additional processes like our IT. IT funds itself because each department has to pay for that benefit. So this way everybody is supporting the needs of our IT. One of the things I did want to mention was during our last call with Moody's was that when we talked about our strategic plan that I presented to council on our geo debt borrowing, they were very, very impressed with the fact that we have developed a plan for the future staying within a certain scale. And we'll talk about that in just a minute. Next. So when we look at capital improvements, general funding and fund balance history, I just wanted to kind of touch on this to help everybody understand. As you can see in the chart, and according to our GASB rules 54, we the city of Sheboygan have decided to follow that where we basically have a minimum of 25% of general fund. So in 2017, our actual needed to be 8,778,000, but we had 68% in there. So when you look at that, we actually had 20 million, almost 21 million in rounding significantly. So if you think of the blue area, I call that the mattress, right? Where you hide your money so your parents don't find it or something. But that money is basically the minimum that we wanna keep it's for that rainy day fund, but we had 20 plus million in there, almost 21 million. That's a lot of money that we're still going to the bank and borrowing money for projects. To me, that's not a good steward. You look at 2018, it drops. Why did it drop? We did city hall renovation. We took 5 million out of general fund to help us so that we only borrowed 6 and a half million towards the remodel. That is something that's approved by Moody's. That's a good use of general fund. Within a year, 18 to 19, you can see that we bumped right back up from 17 million plus to 19 million. Within a year, again, this is because of the amount of money that is overflowing into the general fund year over year. In 2020, we actually, according to our recent audit, we're gonna be hitting $23 million in general fund. We only need to have in there 9.8. So we're 61% where we need to be. To me, again, I want the group and the council and the capital improvements group to understand we have money that we should be using versus borrowing, which goes back to what I talked about in borrowing with to the council earlier. So when we look at 2021, we were estimating 21 million. And that's because I'm going to be asking that we're going to use some general fund to help finance some of our borrowing. So we're not being good stewards of general fund. In my opinion, when we have so much money in the mattresses, I call it next. So CIP maintains steady use of geo debt funds, geo debt usage, increased cost at a city's debt payment over time. Again, part of my operating cost is being able to pay that debt back. Kind of like paying that credit card. We've got a credit card debt using that analogy. We have to keep making those payments. We can't keep borrowing more money because my loan debt continues to increase when we've got a mattress full of money. So my goal is to limit geo debt funds, making the city's debt payments affordable, repayment schedules that are aggressively managed, maintain our AA2 rating, which we still have. It was confirmed in March of 2021. Moody's Investors Service supports the city's present debt management plan presented on March, 2021. Next. This is the plan that I had presented to council and to the finance department. And if you remember, for those that were included, the different colors represent different borrowing strategies or models as I call them. So when we were looking at the blue, that was what we were looking at as far as borrowing four million dollars with no refunding. The orange was the four million borrowing with refunding. And then the green, which was what we ended up, which is what we ended up doing, which is geo debt, two million borrowing with refunding. So the black line is the tax levy revenue for geo debt. The purple line at the top is the 2021 budget, other revenues sources for geo debt. Again, that's assuming all of the revenues come in as planned. We all know that we're still in a pandemic. We all know that it's gonna be lower than that. So the estimated is the dashed line, which is still a scary line. So we really wanna be below that dashed line, right? So by looking at the green, by doing the two million and then other funding that keeps us well below the dashed line. So if we continue the course and we continue to have some issues with revenues in the next year or two, to me sticking with this plan is the best plan for a good stewardship. Next. So next capital improvements continued focus on street infrastructure repair and replacement. So as you're gonna see in a few minutes, our street repair community survey tops resident requests for the past five years. 2009 to 2010, less than one mile, one mile that's what a very short period of time when you think about it, it's a short distance. Less than one mile of street repairs and replacements was completed at that time during 2009 and 2010. Since 2017 strategic plan creation through 2021, 25.87 miles of street repair replacement were completed as planned by 2021. Please understand that the actual dollar figure would be substantially increased because some of the projects that you guys remember like North Avenue, Superior Avenue, they weren't large miles of roads being done. They were actually high dollars because these were very large intersections and plans accordingly. So when we talk about 25 miles, that's amazing. Our 2022 to 2026 CIP, we're planning for an additional 16.4 miles of street repair and replacement that Director Bebo will talk about in a few minutes. Next. So our 2022 to 2026 capital improvements program as you guys can find in here, we want to focus on the 22 and because that's what we're actually asking you guys to review, ask questions and approve. And please understand that moving forward, our plans will be more strategic, but if we approve everything that we've, we put forward in our 2022 plan, I'm not asking you guys to vet all of it and you don't need to go through and say this passes, this fails, let's not do this, let's not kick the can down the road anymore. The plan that my team and I are putting together is that with the two million geo debt and the million $45,000 of general fund balance usage completes everything 100% that we've put together in the 2022. And I'm very proud to be able to say that we can do everything that we need to do for 2022 without having to have you guys go through and try to figure out which is more important. And to me strategically, and being fiscally responsible for the city of Sheboygan using $1,045,000 is nothing in the big picture. Thank you. All right. Thanks Administrator Wolff. Appreciate that. Any questions from others for Administrator Wolff or from committee members? All right, now we'll jump into department presentations. First we'll kick it off with Chad. So the department of city development just has one project in 2022 and this project has been around for a few years and this is the Indiana Avenue Trail project. You'll recall that the city has an agreement with Union Pacific where it wrote to purchase right away along Indiana Avenue, basically from Pacifico out to 13th Street and then from Indiana Avenue down to Union Avenue. So the plan is to extend the Shoreland 400 Trail from Pennsylvania Avenue down to Union Avenue so it would pretty much span the entire length of the city. The difference, so in the 2022 plan we have 875,000 budgeted for purchase. We'll see if we get there. Union Pacific is at 1.2 million and the city is at 875,000 and we continue to negotiate with them when they expect us to be paying for our street right away that we already own. So that's where the difference is. The city attorney's office continues to negotiate with them so we're optimistic that at the end of the year's end we're gonna get to an agreement that both parties can agree to and we can move forward and purchase the right away. So this would be primarily funded with TID 17 dollars, TID 17 capital projects fund, as well as some potential for some state grants and some funding through the community development block grant program. So this project would not affect the general fund, would be primarily funded through other sources. All right, thanks Chad. Any questions for Chad? All right, thank you. We'll go to transit. Derek? Am I on? Cool. But I just want to say thank you. This is probably the easiest capital presentation. I've had to give in my nine plus years here. So I credit the committee, Alder Wolf, who long time transit commission chair, sorry, city administrator Wolf. I still got that in my head for his long support of our projects in the transit commission. For 2022, there are no projects being presented for the parking utility. I was convinced to push those off. Just kidding. But transit, I'm very fortunate enough to announce that we will be replacing 10 fixed rail buses in our 2022 project list. This has been actually a very unique process to get these funded. So I'll just review that five of them are going to be funded through what is called the CMAC or Conjunction Mitigation Air Quality Control Grant. We also will get one extra bus through a federal Section 5339 bus and bus facilities grant. And then four, which will not be borrowed for, but will rather be funded through a reduction in shared revenue, are going to be funded through the recent Volkswagen Mitigation Program that is offered through the state of Wisconsin. Each bus comes in at a cost of around $460,000 for the federal programs. 20% will be city responsibility and 80% funded through federal grants. With the VW buses, 20% will be funded locally through that shared revenue reduction with 80% funded through the Volkswagen program. With the replacement of these 10 buses, it will put our fleet for, I believe the first time, under useful life completely at 100%, which if you look forward, you do not see another bus replacement on the next five-year capital plan. So thank you. Anybody have any questions? Mr. Interroll? Thank you, Mayor. Derek, I just wanted to compliment you and your team with the fact that as you did state, and I just want to make sure that the committee heard this, this will be the first time that the city of Sheboygan will actually have a full fleet of brand new buses. And it's not costing the taxpayers, geo-debt basically or additional cost. I remember when I first got involved back in 2011 with transit, we were buying used buses just to get by. So this is a great, great opportunity for the city and for your team. So thank you for everything you do. Thank you, City Administrator Wolf for those comments. Any other questions for Derek? Thanks, Derek. Thank you. Move on to IT. Derek? Good evening. We will start with the cable TV capital plan. So for cable TV in 2022, we have 25,000 for a tricaster. Then we go pretty silent until 2026, which we'll be looking for 50,000 to replace the broadcast truck. Going to IT in 2022, we have 25,000 for IBMI or AS 400 application retirement. And if you look at the capital plan, you'll see that repeated in 23, 24 and 25, there's dollars out there. Our intent is to hopefully be off that by the end of 2023, but we'll see where we're at. And then in 2026, we'll start to see the need for some technology refreshment or refreshing again. We spent a fair amount in 2019 and 2020 on technology. So that'll be five, six years old at that point. And we'll be looking at refreshing it. Thanks, Eric. Any questions for Eric? All right, thank you. Roberta? I would just like if the presenters could tell us what page of the document or Mr. Mayor, if you could, because if we wanna take notes, it's just easier for us to find them. You were page 65 and 66. Did everyone hear that request? Just when you're going through the project, just refer and reference the page number in the book. Thank you. Thank you. All right, next on is Police Department Chief. I see that you're online here. Good evening. So our program is pretty simple. The majority of it is made up of replacing vehicles for those that are new. Our replacement, essentially what we're doing is following a replacement plan that we've worked on over the last 10 or 15 years to smooth out costs and make sure that we're replacing vehicles when it's most advantageous to us based on warranty and repair costs. So our marked vehicles we replace currently on a four year replacement schedule. So they're getting to 100,000 miles and the warranty is up at that point. So that's when it's most advantageous to replace those vehicles. All the other unmarked vehicles are replaced on a 10 year replacement schedule at this point. Occasionally we may move one of those vehicles off a year again, just to smoother even things out. So our projects for 2022, we have five marked vehicles that we're replacing. As part of that request, we're making two of those vehicles hybrid vehicles so that we can see how those work out and test them for the first time and then decide how to include those in our plan going forward. There's a request for one, I'm sorry. So those are on page 29. The next one is a request to replace an unmarked vehicle that's on page 30. And then on page 31 is our other project for 2022 and that's to update and seal and resurface our parking lot. So it's recommended that parking lot be resurfaced and sealed after about eight or 10 years. The parking lot was constructed in 2009. So it needs some work. There's some sealing, especially that needs to be done.  So we've worked on that with DPW. They'll be doing the work for us. And so that's an important project for us next year. Then going forward, our 2023 projects are on page 74 through 76. And that's again, replacing marked vehicles. And then there's two additional projects in there. One is the police range remediation. And so the police department has a range at wastewater treatment plant. It has not been remediated. And so it does need some work, cleaning out the lead that's in there and then rebuilding some of the berms and patching that. And then the other project that's in there is for maintenance at the police facility. And at this point, I would call that a placeholder as we're working with DPW on developing a plan that they can assist us with, really in putting a more thorough maintenance program in place at the police department. And so what we can work into our operating budget over the next year, going forward, we're gonna do that. But the project that's in there would recover, would cover replacement of desks and work areas at the front desk and in the supervisor's office. So two areas that a lot of people are in all of the time, at the front desk with going to joint dispatch that area is done differently. So there's different workflows that we really need to look at and see how we can better configure that area for the work that's being done there. 2024 projects are on page 113 through 115. Those are again, replacement of vehicles to include a patrol wagon. So we have one paddy wagon. It'll be 20 or 21 years old at that point. And so again, we put it in there as a placeholder at this point, but it's gonna be needed to be replaced at some time. So that's where we're predicting it. This point would be the best time, but as we go forward, we'll continue to evaluate that. 2025 is on page 149 to 151. And again, those are just replacement of vehicles, marked vehicles and unmarked vehicles. Then in 2026, we're on page 180 through 182, and we're asking to replace three unmarked vehicles, I'm sorry, five marked vehicles, two unmarked vehicles, and then we put our impound area improvements on there. And so that's a big project that is there at this point for a placeholder, but to make sure that it's on everybody's radar and is aware of it. And so what we're asking for there is to move our impound area, which is currently at DPW onto our back parking lot area behind the police department. And so last year, we expanded the parking for the police department behind the police department by purchasing that land from the county, and then to really create efficiencies for both us and DPW, the long-term plan is to move that impound area and evidence storage area from DPW onto our property so that we can connect that to the building and make things just more efficient for both us and to give that space back to DPW. So those are the projects that we have at this point and I would be willing to answer any questions at this point. All right, any questions for Chief Tom Magowski? Roberta's rubbing her hands together, is that it? Thank you.  Just a quick, I guess, quick, as Chief Montiano comes up here, just a question for the committee members. Do you want the departments to go through every single year or just 2022? I don't know if there was a preference or if not, we can just stay focused on 2022. The point for the question is the fact that there are a lot of things, a lot of projects in 23, 24, 25, 26, and then I just don't want the committee to get confused because some of the borrowing and the actual use of funds can be a little bit cloudy. That's why I'd rather stick with the 22 because that's really what we're looking to get approved and not muddy the water. So if it's okay, I would ask our department heads to only go over the points for 2022 that we're asking to be approved. Thank you, Chief. Sure thing. All the work I put into it, now I'm just kidding. Well, good evening. Are you just gonna ask for another fire truck, right? I do have, you look nice today. As soon as Scott gets it crossed over, I'll be, it should be hooked up. All right, well, we'll do it without the PowerPoint. So really, there's three items that we're requesting, so we'll make this quick. We're requesting a station three design, architectural study design phase of our headquarters station, station three. This was actually in the budget for a three phase system for this year, starting phase one, replacing a lot of the mechanicals. However, after looking at the building, walking through with architecture, with DPW and the administrator, it was felt that we should look, instead of putting money into a, I don't wanna say failing, but a building that's not gonna last, save that money and use it smartly and wisely and that's where we wanted to go forward with a architectural study. So that's what that $250,000 is. The second thing we're requesting is an ambulance replacement. We currently have four ambulances in our fleet. They were purchased back in 2016. They were all the same. And currently, it's over, they're getting old. They're only supposed to be front line five to seven years. So truly, when they were purchased, we started a ambulance service obviously back in 2012. They were purchased, they were refurbished in 2016, which is putting a new body on, or the new chassis and using the same patient compartment. All the vinyl, the walls, the cabinets are falling apart, they're not safe anymore. So we need to start getting them on a rotation. And the last thing you don't wanna do is you don't wanna buy all the ambulances at once. So we'd like to start moving towards getting them on a rotation. So this would be the first purchase to get our reserve as a fleet in our fleet and then start rotating in the next couple of years. And then you wouldn't have to buy another ambulance for four to five years, six to seven, depending on where and tear. And the final thing we're requesting at the fire department is a replacement of our engine. Then FBA standards recommend keeping an engine in front line status for 10 years and moving it to reserve status for five years and then replacing it. This engine that we're requesting replaces over 25 years old. So again, we've kicked that can continuously down the road. It's time to get a replacement if we're spending anywhere from five to $10,000 annually just to maintain it. And then every time we use it, it seems something else is happening and we just keep putting the band-aids on. So that's it for the three years. If you have any questions, I'll be glad to answer, but I hope you enjoyed my PowerPoint too. It was well put together. Thanks chief. Questions for the fire chief? Next, we'll jump into DPW. We'll start with buildings and traffic first. Well, first we'll start with David Beeple. I'm gonna make an attempt to see if it will power up and get onto the screen for everybody this evening. There we go. So thank you for this opportunity for us to present the Capital Improvements Projects focusing specifically on 2022. And I just wanna introduce the DPW team that has been hard at work. I'm gonna start with superintendent of Parks and Forestry, Joel Curlin. Next to him would be Mike Wilmes, superintendent of facilities and traffic. Also this evening joining me is Kevin Jump, assisted with the city engineer as project manager with our civil engineering department. Next to him is Don Sokolowski, business manager. Behind is Rick Nye. He's our supervisor of our motor vehicle division. Manages all the vehicles and equipment for the department. And also behind me in the gallery introduced earlier is Ryan Sazma, our city engineer. We're gonna focus, first of all, on the facilities and traffic. And what I'd like to do is instead of going by page by page, what I'd like you to do is focus on the summary spreadsheet because I'm gonna go right down the list. So if you go to the sheet and I'm going to read it, it's a page of the spreadsheet, the ones that pull out, it's the first one. And you'll see expenditures, city buildings near the bottom. And the first project that we're looking at is at our municipal service building, our headquarters, right on New Jersey Avenue, drop off site. Maybe that will, a lot of people will kind of take with that. That's basically our headquarters. It manages all the departments that we mentioned here this evening. We have a generator in there that is original to the building. It's over 50 years old. That is going to be scheduled to be replaced or later this year. As well as with this project, we need to upgrade all of the electrical panels that will service and tie in with the new generator. So that's what this project we're looking at and that's roughly 195,000. In addition, in 2022, we're looking at upgrading our vehicle wash bay. And again, this is original to the building. So, as you can see, the vehicles and equipment 50 years ago weren't nearly the size of what we're dealing with today. And some of the pictures which you'll see here is we're barely able to get one of our sultans and plow trucks within the bay to wash it out, clean it out. As you can imagine, this is very important. That type of operation after we have to thoroughly clean the vehicles, as you can imagine, salt is very corrosive to the vehicles and it reduces their life expectancy. So, what we're looking to do is take one of the walls, expand it, so we have much more room to access this area and better ability to maintain our equipment. Those are the two main projects for 2022. David? David? Yes. I just wanted to also point out for the committee to also understand when you look at the salter, you're also going to have an above area for cleaning, for safety. Correct, right. One of the difficulties as well is we're not able to get above the equipment. We don't have a current walkway or any method, so quite frankly, we'll tip the boxes up within the building as best as we can and try to spray out as much as we're able to. The new system will actually have a stairwell, a walkway to traverse the entire length of the vehicle, be able to spray from the top to clean effectively and as well safely. Thank you for reminding me of that. Skip the rest of these projects for the future years for the building this is. Very important, but there is a plan. So one of the other plans, and this has been in the capital improvements for several years already, and what it is is it's a systematic upgrading of our city street lighting network. We have a variety of different types of street lights, as you can see that Mike Wilmes has provided in his presentation this evening. We have some candy canes. We have the Lumex, which we call the white kind of lights that are standard along our Marina and Lakeshore area and our ornamental lights, as well as our Lumex, which are mainly on our thoroughfares. What we're doing is instead of replacing the lamps, we're actually upgrading and retrofitting many of these existing fixtures with LED lamps, tremendous energy savings and improved lighting in terms of light quality and lumens projected. So again, this is a city-wide update. It's an annual program that is in the program. Similar to it, we do traffic signals as well. And that's also part of the presentation. We try to pick a signal that we can, intersection, for instance, that is older, needs to be upgraded either with the proper poles, trombone arms that extend over for turn lanes and such. And again, it's an annual program. We have roughly 45 intersections that are signalized with traffic signals. And slowly, we are systematically upgrading them, getting up to standard and fixing them as well. That's the majority of our facilities and traffic portion. Following along, and I'm going to go right along with this is streets, right? Yep. This is the biggest part of the program as you can imagine. One of the things I think everyone, the commissioner should have received tonight is a PDF of a city map detailing the work that has been performed. Roughly since 2013 and on. And those are the solid lines on the city map in front of you this evening. The dash lines represent future projects within the next five years. There's been a lot of narrative over the years about how terrible our streets are and we gotta do something, we have to do something. What I'm trying to tell you is there's been a tremendous amount of progress as city administrator Wolf indicated this evening. And earlier in his presentation, there's been a tremendous amount of work. Yet when you have 200 miles of streets, we're always going to find one that still needs to be repaired. So what we're trying to do is trying to change that narrative that Sheboygan streets are terrible and we've got to do something. Actually, we have been doing quite a bit and what we need to do is continue that reinvestment. If you remember in administrator Wolf's presentation earlier in 2008 and 2009, we hardly did even a mile of streets. Well, back then it was fine. You didn't see it right away, but over time that disinvestment, that neglect of not investing shows up five, 10 years down the road. And that's where we are with recently and since then, we've really been concentrating and reinvesting in our local infrastructure. And again, as of 2007, our city streets were right around 6.6 on an average scale, one being low, 10 being high. So 6.6 was our rating, average rating. We dropped down in 2013 down to 5.9. So there was a slow deterioration of our overall rating over our old network. Since then, since 2013, as of 2019, we've been able with the work that has been done on the map to date, the average street rating is actually at 6.25 as of 2019. This year, 2021, we re-rate the streets. We rate them every two years. And we're fully anticipating after the work that the department has completed, our ratings should be above 6.3. We're actually projecting a right around 6.4. We want to get to that 6.6, which we're looking at as our benchmark, was when we started this whole rating back in 2007. So we're getting there. We're making progress. And I think that as commissioners, as an older persons and as leadership of the community, everyone's been part of this slow, but steady improvement of our city street network. Director Bebal? Yes. Could you just real quickly define what the PACER is when you reference the number 6.6 and stuff like that? The committee may not understand what that actually means. So yeah, just pull that up real quickly for you. So again, streets rated on a scale. The scale is one would be very poor, but number 10 would be very good. And so there's a range. So we rate our streets on that 10 scale. And based on that network, we come up with an average rating. And again, what we're trying to do with the program is if we reinvest the dollars, for instance, on some of what we would say are good streets. The cost to repair a good working condition street is much lower costs than waiting for a street to degrade to the point where it has to be reconstructed. And Administrator Wolfe mentioned this before. We always want to see how many miles that we've repaired. And that's easy to contemplate, but it's not always the best measure of the use of the dollars because when we reconstructed North Avenue, that was complete removal and replacement of curb and gutter, pavement, sidewalks, brand new street lighting. There were some utilities in there that had to be upgraded as well. When you do a project like that, that project was roughly $5 million for less than a mile, little less than a mile. Now, when we go in and we resurface a street that maybe let's say is a five or a six rating, it's still pretty good. It's got a little rough ride to it, but if you resurface it, it's much, much, much less expensive. You're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars versus millions of dollars. So the more that we can time our maintenance early and on some of our, what I would say, better streets, we're able to spread that out more evenly and have a larger impact on our overall rating. And it sustains it at a higher level. We always will have those streets that need to be reconstructed. That it's just inevitable. A street gets beyond its point where it can no longer be maintained and resurfaced. It needs to be reconstructed. That happens. But we want to minimize that going forward. We want to, if we're able to continually, on an annual basis, continue with a good program, we should be able to minimize that as well as maximize any opportunity for federal dollars in the future. If you'd like, I can go, I don't want to belabor the point. I think you can go down the list, the streets that we've identified. We use a couple of factors. We use their pavement rating. We look at as well as the condition of the pavement. We also look at the vehicles that travel that street. And there's a balancing act here. We'll look at a street such as a North Avenue that will be resurfaced. That street has 8,000 vehicles a day on that section. Now we'll look at a similar street that has the same pavement rate. Let's say that's a pavement rating of four. We look at another street that has a pavement rating of four such as I, just a street, I guess let's say rolling metals. It probably has 300 vehicles a day. So we have a much larger impact when we concentrate on some of our arterials that are in worse condition because the majority of users of that street are going to receive that impact and that benefit. Needless to say though, we cannot neglect internal blind eye to our neighborhoods. So we do a balancing act. And what we look at is how do we reinvest in some of our neighborhoods? And we've used through Chad Peleshek's department, community block grant funds, and we've been able to leverage that and use that as investment to upgrade our neighborhoods and have an impact on what I would see in some of our not necessarily high travel districts, but yet it has a direct impact on the quality of that neighborhood. It's unfair for neighborhoods to be disproportionately affected by bad roads. It's just gonna be a further burden on that neighborhood. The more we can balance that and have an impact on those neighborhoods by using these programs to leverage that and using some of our own DPW labor as well to do some of those smaller projects, we're able to spread these types of projects out. And I think when you look at the map, if you look at the big map of the city, I think there's a nice balance in the mix on there. You see some high traveled arterials, but you'll also see many, many neighborhood streets as well. And I think the dash lines also represent the future and they also represent that there is an investment that will be occurring in these neighborhood areas as well. Is there any questions on anything about the streets main resurfacing management program or a specific project that you may have? Otherwise, I'm sure the data's all in front of you and it's pretty self-explanatory in terms of which street is being proposed. Any questions for Director Meble? I'm gonna jump into parks then.  I'm gonna pull that up shortly. So again, Joe Carlin, Superintendent of Parks and Forestry and Tim Bull, our city forester. One of the big things that I'm sure we're all aware of or you've heard is the emerald ash borer. Invasive species affecting our emerald, our ash trees. Our ash trees just alone in the city of Sheboyin is probably over 6,000 between street trees and then within the parks. It's been a tremendous challenge and a great testament to our forestry division. They've been at this for five years and they've really attacked this program to the point where we're almost done either treating or affecting those ash trees and now we're really gearing up to replant and reforest the community. And that's the exciting part, that it's not always fun when all you're doing is concentrating on cutting, cutting, cutting, trying to get ahead of it and a testament to the team. They've done a great job. So what we're looking at, this is also kind of an annual program within the capital improvement. So there's an earmark in there, roughly 110,000, of which it gets broken up. We have tree planting. We're looking at around 600 to 700 trees. We still have tree removals, which was there's a portion that gets contracted because there's just too many for we have four full-time personnel on our forestry department. Four. And that's about 15,000 roughly trees along the streets. But that means trimming trees. That means planting trees. That means removal trees. There's a lot of other activities that they need to do other than just the annual ash borer that is a constant. So same thing with stump grinding. Stump grinding is very labor intensive and it takes time. So here's some pictures that I wanna show you is there's 264 trees on the removal list as of April 26, 2021. Right now we have 264 trees that need to be removed. Some of the activity, they're not easy. They're not just going out there and just filling it into the street and taking care of it. There's power lines, there's homes, there's broken limbs and determining where that is leaning. It takes time. Here's just a before picture with some of the ash trees. You can see how the top of it is just almost no leaves left. We had a big removal project in there and again, cleaning out. It's kind of sad how wide open after the forest and some of the urban forest is removed. We talked about trees, but then we've done so many tree removals. We're falling behind on tree stumps. We have over a thousand tree stumps that need to be ground out, replaced, and re-top soil and ready for a new planting in the future. That, again, we're trying to give you a picture of the enormity of the job that is in front of our department. We still have 2,400 trees that we're trying to save. We're actually treating them on a, Tim, correct me, Ryan, every two-year basis? Three, every three years, thank you. So every three years, we do a rotation, but they get treated and we're trying to save those. These were the trees that we felt were substantial enough in size and healthy enough that had value that we wanted to try to preserve. Every year, we lose some, roughly 10, 12%, maybe 20. This spring, we're planting 225 trees. And again, like I mentioned, we're finally shifting towards from removal to actually planting. And you can see by the graph in front of you on your screens that the trend is moving in the right direction. Ultimately, we want to be planting more trees than we're removing, because what we've been having is we've had a net loss instead of a net gain. So area five, Evergreen Park, I'm going to shift to Parks Capital now. Area five, Evergreen Park, we're looking at some improvements in this area. As you can see in the next slide, I'll show you where it is. It's kind of, it's isolated area. It's not part of the main drive. It has its own entrance north of the Pigeon River Bridge. It has its own drive and its own parking area. The area in yellow here, we have a grant through the natural resources, damage assessment, NARDA. Thanks, Jeff. So we've got a grant to replace. There's a footbridge right where my, the cursor, well, maybe my cursor isn't showing. You can see it just north of this area. The yellow area is actually where the new bridge is going to be going in. And once that should be going in later this summer. Along with that, once that bridge is in, we want to enhance this area and improve it. It needs a little work with the drive. As you can see, the shelter is old, rustic, we like to call it, but we want to make sure it's still usable and friendly and inviting. The playground is old, needs to be upgraded, especially with today's playground safety standards. This is a walkway. Once the bridge gets in, the NARDA grant is just paying for the bridge. We still have to get a walkway and approach to it and do some work as well. It's just another view of the shelter. So we can say rustic, we'll call it rustic. Here's the current bridge. It's time it needs. As you can see, it's old and what's limiting is we can't really drive equipment across it for another access point. You can see some of the erosion and the asphalt approach here that's kind of sloughing off towards the river. So overall, looking at these improvements, you can see this is kind of just a real quick summary and breakdown of what we've done in engineering. Looking at the asphalt removal, concrete repair, the lawn restoration and shelters upgrading. So that's one of our main part projects for 2022. Also on your list that I don't have necessarily a PowerPoint for you this evening is, you'll see in the capital improvements plan, roughly a quarter million dollars between parks and forestry and the next year it goes to facilities and what it is is this ADA improvements. We did a citywide ADA assessment for Accessibility for Americas with Disabilities Act. And what that roughly shows out of the entire city, there's roughly around $2 million of improvements that are needed and that goes from anything from a park restroom, a park, just access from the parking lot to the playground to anything with the building. Now, City Hall recently renovated, we're good here, but we have other facilities. The service building has ADA issues. The chief mentioned the fire station. So facilities overall, we're gonna be concentrating and making sure that the ADA improvements are taken care of as well. So that's a separate program. Again, it's an ongoing annual program for the next five years to address those concerns and it alternates, as I mentioned, some of it goes to the parks for one year and then the next year we concentrate on our facilities. So it will alternate. Next in the spreadsheet, we're going to talk about wastewater. Wastewater treatment plant. So wastewater treatment plant and Steve Jocert, I failed to mention since he's remote this evening. I apologize, Steve, I hope you're still on the line, but I'm gonna bring up a zoom and aerial of the plant. Every day we treat approximately 12 million gallons of sewage at this facility. That's the plant. One of the big projects, however, is we got to get the sewage to the plant and that's in our sanitary sewer system. And one of the big projects that we're faced with later this year and next year is our self-shore interceptor sewer. This is roughly Indiana Avenue to the north on this map, roughly all along the lakeshore, almost two miles, a little over 8,000 feet. There's a major 60-inch diameter concrete sanitary sewer pipe that serves roughly about 50% of that flow that goes to the plant. It serves a portion of the town of Sheboygan's sewage as well, not only just the city. That line runs right along the lakeshore. Very important, it was built in 1930s. We inspected it. It's an amazing good condition. A testament to how the quality of the work that was done back in the day, it was built to last. But it wasn't built with the lake levels as high as they are in terms of erosion. And so what we need to do is provide protection and enhancement to ensure that that facility and that pipeline will remain in place. So we're looking at roughly an $8 million project. It's in the program. Now, this is all not all funded through capital improvements. There's some of it that's going to be funded through federal grants, as well as this comes through the wastewater sewage rates. So it doesn't necessarily hit the general obligation borrowing or the general fund, as Administrator Wolfe has explained earlier. This has its own separate source of funding through the wastewater rates. There's some, we have money set aside within the wastewater treatment plant and its funding, as well as those grants, as I mentioned. So looking forward to advancing this, you'll probably be hearing this project quite a bit as it further advances in the future, but it'll be a very important project. It's under design as we speak, but I wanted to bring that to your attention before I moved on to the plant. So the plant, as you can see, these square kind of circular areas here, these are what we call the clarifiers. So the sewage comes into the plant that gets screened, gets pumped into these clarifiers. Sewage is retained in there and circular arms, as well as flow, settle the solids to the bottom and move to the sewage through the plant, through what are these square areas? There's some biological nutrient removal as well as aeration to add oxygen to the sewage. And then final clarification, which further settles any impurities out. Then these squiggly lines that are like a maze, that's our chlorine disinfected contact chambers and ultimately all of the sewage and the water, once it's cleaned, gets discharged back into Lake Michigan.  They need to be upgraded and replaced. So what you see in your program is, we're systematically doing one every other year. So we're doing a, there's four of them. So we're doing drive number three for the primary this year and we're doing secondary drive number one in the next year. Talked about also at the plant, there's some screening and scum removal. There's an auger that takes out the solids as mentioned in the non-organic material that gets flushed. Anything that doesn't degrade naturally, it gets screened and ejected into a dumpster and it gets taken to a landfill. Right now we only have one unit that actually screens that and actually grinds it to a smaller diameter or not diameter, but smaller particle size so it's easily ejected. What we're looking to doing is we're adding a second train for redundancy and backup. Right now if that goes down, we have to shut that down and it makes cleaning and screening that much more difficult. So that project is also scheduled. Lastly, I just wanna show you also we have in the budget the sewer truck. This is an example of what a new sewer truck is. What it does is we have these high pressure hoses, they go down into the sewer lines, they high pressure flush from the inside of the pipe, keep the sewers clean, keep the greases, any debris that's in there, keep some free flowing. We have a systematic crew that has a truck like this that's beyond its useful life. Again, this is funded through your sewer bill. So when you're paying your sewer, when you pay your water and sewer bill, that goes into a fund. This fund then helps replace these types of projects. So this truck would be, it's used every day. We have, it's called route jetting. We send a crew out. This is your area. These are trouble areas go out and clean these areas to keep the sewers flowing and prevent backups. So that would be your other project. I'm gonna move on now to the motor vehicle division. If anyone, if I should say, ask if anyone's got questions. Any questions regarding wastewater? Go to motor vehicles then. Motor vehicles should be fairly, fairly simple this evening. As Sydney administrator Wolf mentioned before, we are looking at moving towards a lease program for much of our small, what I would say, our small fleet, which would be a pickup trucks, anything less than what we call a one ton vehicle. We have a roughly around 50 of those types of vehicles in the DPW fleet. And so we're looking at, and quite frankly, those would compete against some of what I would say our larger, more specialized equipment. And it was probably part of the fleet because of that competition got neglected. It didn't get replaced often. And so you would see the pickup trucks year after year. We have some trucks approaching 20 years in service. Not the best for safety, reliability, as well as fuel efficiencies. So that's an exciting program. We're gonna be looking forward to advance later this year as well. So really the only thing we have next year is two items. We're looking at a new street sweeper. The one, and we have three. So we have a 2010 Schwartz, A7000. It's reaching the end of its lifespan. And the one on the right is what we're replacing it with. This is a Timco unit 600. And actually we did a replacement this year for 2021. And that's what you see in front of you. So in 2022, we're gonna do the next unit and there'll be one in the future again to finalize the three. These are used every day, except during the winter time. So they're out sweeping the city streets. And on average, we're roughly right around 700 tons of material that we'll pick up on the streets just from sweeping. The other thing we're looking to replace is a call the skid steer. It's a little Bobcat, that is the brand name. The current one is a 2006 unit. It's used all over the place, landscaping, construction, snow removal. They're very versatile. They have multiple attachments you can put on. You can put on a snow blower. You can put on a broom. You can put on a grinder, for instance, in some cases. So this would be the other unit that we're replacing. And because of the pickup trucks and the lease program, these are really the only two pieces of equipment that we're requesting for 2022. Awesome. Any questions for David regarding the motor vehicle division? Oh, there are administrator, oh, sorry. That's okay, thank you, Mayor. I just wanted to point out a piece that I probably should have explained in the very beginning of the presentation as the department heads were going through the project. But if you go into your book and you look at the Excel sheets that Director Bebo was referencing, the very first page, which is page 17 of 211, please note that this is color-coded. So yellow is previously approved in same year and then blue is previously approved in a different year. But what I wanted you to focus on is the revenues. So there's, when we talk about geodebt funding and tax levy, there are different areas where we get our funding from. Obviously donations doesn't look so hot, but it's hard to donate to the city. But as you go through it, you'll notice that in 2022, we're looking at $40 million worth of total revenue spending, but then we're asking for this committee to recommend 23 through 26 and you'll be able to walk yourself through it. So as you're going through, you'll actually be able to see where that the funding is coming, whether it's tax levy or geodebt borrowing. Again, this collaboration is allowing us to maintain our $2 million geodebt borrowing and use other funds to achieve this plan of 2022, executive. Thank you. Thanks, Administrator Rolf. Appreciate it. David, you're good, all right. Yes. All right. Thank you, the department heads for those presentations. Any questions from committee members at all for any topics discussed tonight? Alder Pirella. Yeah, I was just wondering, first of all, I want to thank the heads of the department. You pull your mic down. Oh, no, just pull it closer to you. When it's read, you're ready. And you can bend it down. I just want to thank the heads of the departments because for a new other person, this is a fantastic best opportunity to get to know you. And I appreciate it very much all the presentations. In fact, I was also wondering if those presentations can be shared or you plan to share those presentations with us. That's right. Yep, we can get you that information. Sure, I mean, at least from public works, I could send a PDF of these. If you prefer a printed version, we can send the printed version or as an email or we could, again, share it as an actual PowerPoint. Either way, we'll be able to get it to you in a format that you'll be able to have it and be able to take some more time to review it on your leisure. I would appreciate that. All right. Other questions from anyone? Okay. I don't know if we're taking action. Do we need to, if anyone knows what the full motion is just to accept the RO and then we're meeting next Monday as well. So is there motion to accept the RO? No, you don't need to do that. It's just a review. Just a review. All right, sounds good. The next meeting date is... The third, next Monday. Seeing that we've exhausted the agenda, is there a motion to adjourn? There's been a motion and second. All those in favor of adjourning, please state aye. Aye. Anyone opposed? Chair votes aye. We're adjourned. Good night, everyone.


Hello there, I'm Luke Smith, and I have a YouTube channel which means that if a company wrongs me I can publicly complain about it, and maybe they'll actually do something about it. That's what this video is on. I have two goals in this, okay? I want to talk about this company Lulu and how they have been nothing but frustration for me. And secondly, if someone has an alternative to using their- and I guess if they want to fix this I hope they do. I would like to work with them, but the second reason I'm doing this video is if they don't, maybe someone else has an offer or has an idea. So here's the deal. If you watch my channel actually maybe around a year or so ago I did a video saying that I'm gonna start a little project, and I've been working on it sort of on the back burner for a while probably around a year or so, where I want to reprint out-of-print books, okay? There are many companies that actually do this online, but they do it really crappily. There are a lot of them. They'll basically just copy and paste, you know let's say a book from the internet that's in the public domain and reprint it. Terribly formatted. If it's in another language it'll be like mutilated because the people copying and pasting it, they don't, you know, they don't know. So I wanted, you know, obviously, I know how to typeset in law tech and stuff like that. So I wanted to make nice little books like this that they're just easy to read, reprinted stuff that I could have with a print-on-demand company and sell to people. Now originally, I just wanted it for myself on one of those. I don't believe in ebooks. I don't believe in reading stuff on a screen. I can't do that. I need to have a physical book otherwise it's just not real, okay? So I wanted it for myself and I figure hey, if I'm already doing this for myself I might as well sell it to other people. So that's what I've been sort of, again I had this idea maybe a year or so ago and I was working on it on the back burner, but the past couple of months I've really been trying to finish it off like put a lot of more effort into it. So I chose to use this company Lulu, okay? And I will have to say they are a print-on-demand company, so you can send them your book. I mean, it's sort of like Amazon does this. You guys might know this.  But Lulu is one of these many companies that if you have a finished book or even an unfinished book that's not typeset, they can typeset it for you. But if you know how to typeset, you know, I send in a PDF in law tech all nicely formatted, design a cover, and they will just print the book, okay? And you can get pretty good margins compared to traditional publishing considering you don't really have like the upkeep cost of having the machinery to print things or something. So here's the deal. These are all the books that I've gotten from them. Test books. I will order one after the other. Sometimes I'm correcting my own problems. Like for example, here's Marcus Aurelius's meditations. I realized the first time I got this, it's way too centered inside, so that's my fault. I just had to move it and you know move the margins out, so it's a little bit more readable. But here's the thing. Very quickly, I realized that Lulu just had, must have either terrible quality control or something systematically wrong with a bunch of different things. So I got this. This is another fantastic book that you should unironically read when I am successfully finished publishing this. This is Isidore of Seville's etymologies. It's actually sort of a proto encyclopedia all in Latin, but here's the issue. I got this thing. In general, I realized the text is too big, so I shrunk it down on the next edition. But Lulu printed this thing and every fourth page is totally blank, okay? And I opened a ticket about this and I got some lady who obviously didn't couldn't take it. I think she assumed that I did not compile a PDF correctly or something like that or is an error on my side. Additionally, one minor error on this. I don't know if it shows up in this one. There is also, no, it doesn't show up on this one, but on other editions of this book I got, there's a point where I am supposed to have a little QR code, okay? I have a little QR code at the beginning of every single book. That is a link to, I actually know it's like a donation address. It's like a Bitcoin donation address. But as I got more versions of this book, only the hardbacks. On all the paperbacks, the QR code worked. But on the hardbacks, for whatever reason, the QR code never shows up, okay? And she was trying to convince me that it was my problem. I mean, I don't want to be mean.  I don't know how to, like there's a point when you have a support ticket. There needs to be a button to be like, yes, I know this is, I know what I'm doing. Could you please like elevate my ticket? That's what, some companies are good on that, some aren't. So anyway, this book, every fourth page is blank. And this is the second book I get.  Maybe I got like a one out of a hundred, one out of a thousand, one out of a million error. So I actually got some more books and I, you know, other books that I was about to test. So here is a collection of paper and cyclicals. This one actually ended up pretty much fine, okay? It does have the QR code, I think, where is it? Okay, the QR code shows up. Oh, and I should be clear on this book where the QR code does not show up, it does have images inside that work fine. And the QR code is just an image, okay? So that's all I know about that. So, and the whole point of PDFs is not, I mean, the whole point of a PDF is your system should be printing it the exact way it shows up. That's what a PDF is supposed to be. But anyway. So another one here, books of Enoch and the book of Jubilees. Everything worked out pretty much fine here. But here's here's what ended up, okay? So once I had all these, I guess, printing examples, I sort of thought, oh, well, you know, when I got this one with one fourth of it being blank, that's probably just like a fluke. It's probably not my fault, not their fault.  And I haven't gotten a refund for that. I did complain about that. But lastly, here's what happened. I hooked up Lulu. Now on my site, I'm going to have Lulu and like this application called Shopify that are synced together. So I don't have to, like they don't actually publish all their API stuff. So I basically have to use this junkie proprietary system so I can automate fulfilling orders. So I don't have to manually do everything. So I hooked that up just to see what would happen. And I ordered another copy of meditations and etymologies because those were pretty much done. Now the copy of etymologies ended up mostly fine. It didn't have all the blank pages, but it also did not have the QR code that it's supposed to have. Where is it? Where is it? Somewhere around here. Oh, no, this is the old one. Oh, anyway, it has it.  But here's the thing. I got the copy of meditations. Look at that. I send in the same PDF and it's not even centered. But more importantly, this isn't even my book. This is not even the book that I made. This is not the PDF that I made. It's some other book, Hammer of the Patriot. This, I actually looked through this text. It's highly based at Redpilled by Charles Chappell in 2014. This is not my book. They printed some other PDF and sent me it with my cover, okay? Now, here's my issue. I ordered, what, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine books. Two of them had errors like this one and the one with the blank pages. Two of them had errors that are like you can't overlook. Make the books totally useless. And then systematically, there was something wrong with the hardcovers. They don't show the QR codes, okay? So that's all I know. I have, and I want to be clear, every time I order one of these, I have to pay, okay? So I have paid, I don't know, maybe a couple hundred dollars getting the, I mean, maybe not that much. Maybe maybe a hundred fifty or something like that. Getting these books printed and it's the most annoying process. I want to be totally clear about that because you, it, and I'm not saying this is a bad thing. Lulu takes a little bit of time to print. Obviously, you know, they're not pre-printing stuff. It's print on demand. So it takes a little time to print and ship. So I think the longest it's been, maybe is three weeks. Maybe that's the longest it's been. But it's been such a frustration getting this book, getting a book that's broken due to a fault that is none of my own, and then getting sort of, you know, dismissed as an issue. Oh, it's your fault. You know, it'll work fine. Maybe we'll give you a refund. And then I have to wait three more weeks to see, oh wait, I was, I submitted the same thing and it just worked. And three more weeks to test it again. That is annoying. It's, wait, it's wasting my money, but it's more importantly wasting my time. I wanted to have this done in late February. Maybe before that.  Like, here's, here's a nice thing you should do, Lulu. Just open the book before you send it. Because if it looks like this, it's wrong. Look at the title page. Is that the set? That's not, that's not this, okay? So I don't know. There must be no quality control whatsoever at Lulu. And I understand that. If it's all, you know, automated, if you're, if you're whatever, but I just, like, there has to be something, it is so annoying. Like, let's, let me put it this way. Let's say I go public with my site, okay? Today. Seriously. And I'm selling things to people. What if two out of every nine of the books that I still let send out have a crippling error that make them impossible to read? Or you just get the wrong book? What am I supposed to do? What, how, like, how humiliating would that be? And of course, I could do the thing where I said, well, it's not, I mean, this all probably have to do this, is say, talk to Lulu about it. It's their fault. And if they're just, like, it is not even in their interest to be this bad. You know, there, there are some corners you got to cut, but if you actually have a lot of people who need this service, it is just going to be a frustration if you don't fix it now. Okay, that's, that's all I have to say. So that is my frustration. So here's my position. I might still use Lulu. Maybe, maybe I just got to one in a million errors or something like that. Maybe this rarely never happens. I was just supremely unlucky. Maybe that's it. Okay, that's a possibility. But I don't think that is how it is. But I mean, if that is how it is, if it's just a totally rare thing, maybe I will just go public and start selling books and tell people to talk to Lulu if they have an error. But that is a big frustration. And I think it's a dishonor to me, frankly. I don't want my reputation tarnished if I'm selling books through this company that is going to have terrible quality control. So that is one thing. And I will say the Shopify Lulu, you know, interaction is terrible. The system, let's see, there are a million things about it. Okay, this is just for the Lulu people. Actually, no, I'll say this afterwards. Let me go ahead and say the other thing I want to say. So if any of you guys out there have a better system for doing this, I don't want to spend a spend a million dollars to put some of these books up. You know, some of these books are very obscure. They're in, you know, here's one of Roger Bacon's works written in Latin. I wanted it. So I'm gonna print it. I don't know if anyone else wants it. So I don't want to pay a bunch of, you know, sunk, not sunk costs, fixed costs in a company. I want to do print on demand. But I don't, I feel like all the options I look into have been pretty bad. So I don't know if anyone else, I don't know, maybe run a publisher and you want to, you're interested in something like this. Because I actually have a lot of stuff right now that I could submit to this. So if you have a better way of doing that, please tell me. I've looked into Lulu and IngramSpark and all, most of these companies. And for one reason or the other, they're bad.  Or like how they don't interact. Yeah, the system is just messy and buggy. And the biggest annoyance is in order to print these books. So here's the thing. On the Lulu site, when you create a book, they automatically generate an ISBN. I want to have ISBNs in my books, okay? That makes them real. That makes them real official books in some system, right? So I want to have ISBNs. And also the Lulu site allows you to auto-generate a cover. Now, eventually, I want to make the covers all myself because I don't really like these covers.  Firstly, the backs look terrible. And you can also not make multiple paragraphs on the backs. Their system can't handle if you return.   But also, you can create a product on Lulu, but the Shopify app doesn't actually link to those products on Lulu. You have to recreate them on the Shopify app, putting in the exact same thing. It's set for you cannot get the free ISBNs and you cannot generate a cover using that system. So what I have to do is I have to create them on Lulu and then get the cover from that and the ISBN from that and then put them on Shopify. Again, redo the same process.  I don't know. Do people actually use Lulu? That's my question. I don't know. Maybe my project is too big. I'm not trying to do some book that I wrote that no one's going to read. I want to actually print books and sell them to people at a larger scale. So maybe I'm doing the wrong thing. So if you know a company that does this better, please tell me. If you're in Lulu and you want to tell me that it's all a big mistake and something like that, and here's why this all went wrong, you can tell me that. But I don't know. I'm just a little frustrated. I just want to get this over. I don't want to have to think about this. The reason of using print on demand is so that I don't have to think about fulfilling orders. And I don't want to sit around thinking, oh, no, what if they send all of these erroneous copies to people?  Anyway, that's all I have to complain about.


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