Good morning and welcome to Out of the Comfort Zone on the ThinkTech live streaming network series broadcasting from our downtown studio at Pioneer Plaza at the core of downtown Honolulu. I'm Arby Kelly, body language boss and your new host. I've got a very special guest joining me today but first there are a few things I want to share with you. As you know this is a new show. This is the very first episode. When I signed on to host this show our CEO Jay sat down with me to decide where we wanted the show to go and what our focus would be. He told me that ThinkTech Hawaii strives to live up to the words every day better. And you can't see but here in the studio in front of me is a sign reading lifelong learning lives here. As Jay and I discussed our options we realized that in order to make every day better you can't do what you've always done. The only way to improve and grow and change is to get out of the comfort zone. To help you get out of the comfort zone each episode is going to have three things. First there will be a book recommendation that has helped me get out of the comfort zone so you can do some extra reading and I trust this book will do the same for you. Then there will be a body language tip to help you grow your confidence, your relations, your charisma.  The book today is called The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. If you love to read you're going to love this. If you hate to read you're going to love this. This is a short and powerful book that was recommended to me by my mentor Pam Chambers and I'm so glad she did. If you've dreamed of doing something great but your dreams just never seem to come true then this is the book for you. Here's a quote from the jacket. Creative work is a gift to the world and every being in it. Don't cheat us of your contribution. Give us what you've got. And that's from Steven Pressfield. Again The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Now this book gave me a real kick in the pants just this last week which is the reason I'm recommending it to you today. It's short, it's quick, you can find it in the library, any bookstore or online. Now what happens when we begin to leave the comfort zone? Is that we begin to get a little nervous. Nervous, stressed, anxious, our brains don't like trying something new or unknown, our brains begin to panic. When your brain is stressed or uncomfortable it sends messages to your body to fix it.  These movements are called self soothing gestures, nervous gestures, pacification gestures. When we begin to make these movements our brains release oxytocin. It's a soothing, safe, bonding kind of chemical that makes us feel a little bit better. So here are some of the movements we make when we're nervous, all right?  Anytime that happens maybe they'll start fidgeting with their clothes, brushing off their sleeves.  Let's see, maybe you'll see men do this often, they'll adjust their tie, while women will play with their jewelry or their necklaces. Or sometimes you'll just see people kind of rub their neck like this. All of these are nervous gestures that let you know if you're doing them, you're feeling nervous. If someone else is doing them, there's a good chance that person is feeling pretty nervous. Now every time you try to do something new whether that's public speaking, whether that's going skydiving for the first time, whether that's asking someone out on a date and you're not sure what they're gonna say.  And so because it's feeling stressed, it tells you to calm it down. And without even realizing, you'll start to see these self soothing gestures. You'll start to see these fidgeting, you'll start to see this. Anytime you see someone start to fidget like this, that's a really good sign they're feeling a little nervous. And of course when you see that, you want to find a way to calm them down. If you're the one doing it, you want to find a way to calm yourself down without broadcasting to everyone how nervous you're feeling. One of the easiest ways, if you're gonna try something new, you're panicking a little on the inside, but you don't want it to show, is to kind of stroke this area right between your collar bones on the bottom of your neck. If you kind of stroke or rub this area, it's actually really, really soothing. I'm starting to calm down now, ooh. All right, so that's an easy way to calm down if you're feeling nervous, and I hope that gives you some comfort when you're going out of the comfort zone. And now let's go on to our wicked awesome guest. This is a really good friend of mine. Joining me in the studio today is Kajana Movery, but I often call him Cage. He's the CEO of High Social Agency. Now today we're talking about standing out on social media. So, Cage, what's your story? What brings you here? How are you here today? What's brought you from where you were to where you are now? Okay, so what brought me here today is, well, you asked me, and I was like, hey, I got nothing else to do, so I showed up. But see, what brought me to social media is so, quick back story. I was a college reject. I was removed from college my second year for lifestyle infractions. Let's keep it there. So, I did the typical thing. I came back and I was lost. I didn't know what I was doing. And I met this lady who runs a very large marketing agency of ChemCom, her name is Jennifer Kim. And I approached her and I'm all like, hey, Jen, I will work for you for $5 an hour if you teach me how to do everything that you know how to do. And she's like, what's your skill set? And I told her nothing because I literally had no skill set at the time. And then she's like, okay, you can start off as my customer service representative. And so I started with that job and I worked for her for two years at $5 an hour. And I worked my way up from being a customer representative to being her chief data analysis and marketing campaign manager. And at the end of that, one month she's all like, hey, Kajana, I'm gonna fire you in a month. So you better go and start your own agency and I'm all like, I, I can do that. I can do that. So long story short, I went through that and I learned that social media allows us to expand our sphere of influence. You know, in Hawaii, we're really big on word of mouth marketing.  Oh, do you see your daughter? She's doing that. Oh, I saw a baby girl down the street. Social media allows you to take those conversations and expand the amount of people that it reaches. And allows people who you don't normally see in your everyday life to be able to share in that story with you. So long story short, that's where I went from being a college reject to being the CEO of a social media agency. Wow, wow. So what does your day look like now? What keeps you busy these days? Oh man, everything. So we're at a point of our business where we're not so big that I'm able to work on growing the business. So I'm very much stuck in the day to day. So, you know, as much as I am going out and finding new clients and making sales and bringing in new companies, I'm also in the weeds. I'm making graphics. I'm putting together videos. I'm writing copy, putting together landing pages and a bunch of other technical jargon that goes with the marketing world. So it sounds like you're intimately connected to every aspect of your business. I would like to think so. Someone is using your business, they're dealing with you. Yes. All right. So it seems like in Hawaii, you said earlier, people prefer word of mouth. How does the role of social media play in to how people feel about it here in Hawaii? Okay. So one of the biggest fears I've seen from people when it comes to social media is they're afraid of people seeing what they're doing and judging them on that, right? And this isn't any different than the same fear that they have when it's just word of mouth.   She's acting all nuts. The same principle applies to social media. People fear that when they put themselves out there that people would judge them for the things that they're not doing instead of celebrating them for the things that they are doing. When in actuality, people want to support you. People want to see what you're doing. People are interested in people. So if you actually take this idea that by putting yourself onto social media, more people will be interested in what you're doing, you'll see that you're going to actually attract what we call a tribe of people who celebrate and support you. Wow. Wow. So it sounds like people are afraid that if they put themselves out there on social media, they're going to be judged. Or they're going to lose friends, lose face, be put down. But it sounds like you're saying that when they put themselves out there, they actually have the chance to kind of be a role model, to be celebrated, to attract people to them to help and support them. Is that right? That's exactly what I'm saying. Yes. Interesting. Interesting. So how do you use social media these days? Okay. So I am something called an influencer. So this is the type of person that when they're on social media and they talk about things, people take their opinion into heavy consideration. So what that looks like for me is my platform is I believe in impact. I believe in social good. And I believe in going out and doing the work, hence the hustle hat, right?  You know, some days that's epic and I'm following clients around in like New York City or California or following people to Austin, Texas, and I get to share these stories of me going out there. Other days, it's really just me going and saying, man, just work for 25 hours. There's only 24 hours in a day.  But I just share what it is I'm doing. I just document whatever it is that I'm doing in my day-to-day life. Gotcha. Now, full disclosure, I actually follow Kajana. So I get to see a lot of these posts, and it's absolutely true what you say about impact. Basically, every time you post on social media, usually I scroll through what everyone else is saying. Sorry, everyone. But for Kajana, every time I read your posts and at the end of every post, I'm like, whoa, that's so true. And you always motivate me. You always give me a new direction to go to help build my impact. So I love that. I love that you're doing that. Oh, sweet. Thanks, RV. Not that I would know, because you don't like anything. Sorry. Sorry. I'll get better. I'll get better. Baby steps. All right. So what are some baby steps that you would recommend for our audience, people who are watching? How can they start to stand out on their social media? How can they get over their fear of standing out on social media? So the number one tip I always recommend is just be yourself.  And it comes out very clearly on social media. So the number one tip is definitely, by far, just be yourself. That authenticity that you bring, it's a cliche thing. But no one can be you. Everyone knows this. It's a very well-reset thing. But it's true. No one can explain or share a story the way that you can. Someone can experience the exact same thing as you, but have a very different takeaway, a very different storyline, a very different way of sharing their story. So if it's really, really as simple as taking what you do and crafting it into a story that is true to you—perceived authority—perceived— That's really cool. That's really powerful. And I can see this echoing throughout real life, whether on social media or in real life, there's always this kind of underlying fear that if we truly authentically be ourselves and stand out and celebrate ourselves, people are going to try and drag us down instead. They're going to try and almost punish us for being awesome. Yep. This is very true. There's actually that poem by Marianne Williamson where she talks about, you're not really afraid of our darkness. We're actually afraid of our light, about standing out. And by living our true selves, we give people around us the courage to do the same. Wow, that's really cool, Kajana. I love that you empower people to be themselves in real life, but also on social media. Yeah. You know, it really is that—it's really that simple in theory. And even in practice, really just talking about what you value, because as you talk about it, more people will want to be a part of your conversation. I like to think of it as when you walk into a room and there's a group of people, it's difficult—not that it's difficult, it's actually impossible to talk to the entire room at once. But if you talk to one person and you just continue to engage real conversation with them, you get them to really understand you, to really vibe with you, eventually they'll turn and they'll invite someone else into the conversation. And then they'll turn and they'll invite more people into the conversation. And if you do this consistently over and over and over, giving your authentic point of view to these people before you know it, the entire room is captured by what you're talking about. Wow. Wow, that's a really awesome way to explain that, how you start out with one person. And on Facebook, that might be just, you know, one like. Maybe you post something you think is really cool and you get one like. And a lot of people take that and they're really discouraged by that. But it sounds like you can just start out small. You just take the baby steps and you keep putting your authentic self out there until people start to find you. People start to come to you drawn by the true self that you're actually showing them. Yeah. And now that you mentioned that, that's actually a really good point. You only see one like. But when you go to the store and you see someone who follows you, hey, I saw that you were in New York last week. Oh yeah, I was in New York. And then you go back and see they didn't like anything, but they saw you. Just because they don't give any kind of reciprocation saying that, hey, I acknowledge what you're doing, people are still watching you. You never know who's watching. So that's why it's important that it's always authentic and it's only what you're truly doing.  You want to be seen for who you really are, which is the whole idea of this expanding sphere of influence that is social media. That's really cool. The silent lurkers and the expanding sphere of influence. Now we've got to take a break, but when we come back, I want to hear more about that. All right. Definitely. All right. So we're, we're taking a break. I'm Marby Kelly and this is out of the comfort zone on the Think Tech live streaming network series. We're talking with Kajana Movery about standing out on social media. We'll be back in a minute. So stay tuned for more of this story. This is Think Tech Hawaii raising public awareness. I just walked by and I said, what's happening guys? I'm Ethan Allen host of likeable science on think tech Hawaii every Friday afternoon at 2pm. I hope you'll join me for likeable science. We'll dig into science, dig into the meat of science, dig into the joy and delight of science. We'll discover why science is indeed fun. Why science is interesting. Why people should care about science and care about the research that's being done out there. It's all great. It's all entertaining. It's all educational. So I hope to join me for likeable science. We're back. We're live. I'm Marbi Kelly, your body language boss. And this is out of the comfort zone on the Think Tech live streaming network series. We're talking about standing out on social media with Kajana Movery. So Kajana, is social media a fad? Ha. It's actually surprising how often I get this question. Social media is not a fad though a lot. I can see how a lot of people would think that. You know, this has always been the case for every platform of media that has ever existed. The radio came out. People were like, no one's going to listen to the radio. The radio will never become important. You know, before you know it, people had radio ads. People were selling things on the radio. Eventually the TV rolled out. No one's going to watch the TV. Who's going to sit down and watch this box when on the go I can have the radio playing for me? You know, okay. Eventually everyone moves to TV. Everyone starts watching TV. It becomes a family thing. And then people start selling things via TV. And then the internet comes out. The internet's a fad. It's not actually going to work. It's never going to work.  And you know, that was the case in the beginning. And then the internet blew up and everyone started using the internet. And people started selling things via website. And then email came out. And they're like, no one's ever going to use email to communicate with people. And it doesn't make any sense. Why would we do this? And then, I'm pretty sure the story is getting repetitive. The email blew up and everyone started selling things on email and communicating via email. And then Facebook came out and everyone's like, no one's going to go on Facebook. We have email. We have forums. We have TV. And that was the truth in the beginning. And then Facebook blew up. And then everyone had Facebook. Everyone and their grandmother had Facebook. And then from Facebook spawned things like Instagram and Snapchat and Pinterest, et cetera, et cetera. But the point is that people are afraid that social media won't be a real thing. They're afraid that it's going to collapse and that there's going to be a huge change in society. And people are afraid that you can actually use social media for business because that's not professional. Well, at one point in time, TV wasn't professional. At one point in time, radio wasn't professional. At one point in time, emails weren't professional. But eventually, they worked their way into the fold to be extremely professional and important. So in all of this, my point is that social media is here. It will continue to be here. It's not going anywhere. It's completely changed the way that people deal with their lives. It allows a form of escapism that's never, ever been achieved before. Where you have to go home and sit down and get ready for your TV. Now you can be standing in line at the bank. Oh, I wonder what my friend's doing on Instagram. You can be waiting for your food. Oh, look, Facebook. I like that girl so much. Click. The capabilities of it being integrated into our lives is ridiculous. So no, R.B. Kelly, it is not a fad. And it will be here for a long time, at least until VR happens and AR and robots take over. Wow. Robots taking over. That might be a future story. But when you say it's a fad, I know for me, I got a notification the other day on Facebook that it was my face-aversary or something. I'd been a member of Facebook for nine years. And you guys don't know how old I am. But that is, um, that's more than half and less than a third of my lifetime. So that is a big deal, especially for this rising generation. You have these new professionals who are coming into the mainstream, coming into business, where this is just a way of life for them. What role do you think that's going to play in the workplace as things start to grow and change? I think that social media in the workplace will become a more pivotal pillar, if you will, in that social media is easily accessible and allows anyone to claim authority, right? But what it allows as well is it allows people to give feedback in a way that wasn't generated before, right? Before, you could not, technically you could, but it was difficult to collect information unless you're specifically asking someone for information. Now, if you put something on the social media, everyone gives their input because everyone has something to contribute or at least they perceive they have something to contribute, both in positive and negative ways. So having social media actually allows businesses and brands to expand the influence that they have using influencers. So, for example, if you look at companies like Nike, right, they have people who endorse their products, athletes, rappers, actors, celebrities in general, right? And those are great ways to get people to engage them with them via television commercials and billboards and, I don't know, radio ads and newspaper prints, who cares, right? But by taking all of what they do and moving on to social media, it's no longer, you know, Kobe Bryant who's making me buy these shoes. It's now my best friend from down the street making me buy these shoes because he's all like, bro, I got these sick Jordans or Kobe's, who cares? I got these sick, sick shoes. Guys, you should get one.  It allows a much more authentic connection as opposed to when you're watching some celebrity, who are you to that celebrity? Where do you have a connection to them? Sure, they're cool, but this person's like my homie. I listen to what they say. So it sounds like social media can be even more authentic and that's one of the arguments I hear from my mom and from my parents. When they talk about why they don't like social media, they say it's not authentic. But the way you're talking about it, it sounds like social media can be even more authentic than the TV ads, the radio ads that we hear all the time. Oh, yeah, for sure.  You can lie on any platform. I can lie to your face. I can lie to you on social media. I can lie through your text. I can lie via a message. But the thing is, again, back to the piece about inauthenticity. When you're inauthentic, people can feel that and people won't vibe with you. They won't connect with you. They won't, you know, go out of their way to follow what you're doing. But if you choose to be authentic in everything that you do, the exact opposite happens. People want to find you. People want to listen to you. People want to see what you think about searching topics in the world. People want to see what you're doing because you've given them a real connection and allow them to see what I like to call as an authentic window into your authentic life. Wow. It's like opening the window and people can look through and see what you're doing and then, okay, on to the next thing. Wow, that is really cool. That is really cool. I really like that. Now, I know some of our audience members are probably thinking, ugh, social media. I don't use that. I don't want to use that. My kids use that. Or my grandkids use that. Ain't nobody got time for that. So what is a practical example of what you would tell those watchers who are a little afraid to start on social media or who aren't a little nervous about that? Okay, so I would start with something as simple as the next time you have an event, whether it's a family event, a work event, a personal life event, just snap a picture, don't put any words, and just put it on social media. Literally that simple.  Good for them. Maybe they'll like it. Maybe they won't. Maybe they'll comment. Maybe they won't. But as you continue to do this, just putting really simple things about yourself out there.  Hey, congratulations on getting married. Hey, I just saw that your baby turned three. Good job. Awesome. Great parenting. Good for you. Because you're giving them the opportunity to see a piece of your authentic life. Wow. So it's really that simple. And as you do it more often, like anything, the more you do it, the more confident you become, the more you're willing to share, the more open and vulnerable you're willing to become, just like any relationship. You don't just meet a girl and be all like, I love you.  That's just really awkward, right? You need to build that relationship. You need to get them to like and trust you and really edge your way up, right? Get them to open up. Same thing with social media.  They're gonna go like, whoa, that was like way out here. But if you open up with really small things and you get them to connect with you and see who you are and see what you're about, you can build a tribe of people who really care about you and what you offer to the world. That is really cool. I really like that. Now, my parents growing up told me to be like almost a little bit afraid of social media. Like, what if some predator finds your information? What if... What would you advise for that? Well, I mean, obviously, you don't want to like, you know, say, hey, guys, I live on 42nd Street in building number four C. You should totally check me out.  But at the same time, you can't be afraid of what could happen because you're being reckless. Things can happen any day. I could stand up, trip over this chair, fall, break my neck. I'm done. Is that going to stop me from standing up, though? Will it stop me from standing up and going to the next thing? You can put yourself on social media and if you're more afraid of what people will say, okay, that's fine, but will you get what you want? Like anything else, you have to get uncomfortable to get the result because change requires tension and if there's no tension, nothing happens. Wow. That is awesome advice. That is awesome advice, Kajana. If you guys have any additional questions, you can reach out to us on Twitter at thinktechhi, all right? We would love to hear from you. Now, we're running out of time. We're going to have to start wrapping it up. I'm Marby Kelly. This is Out of the Comfort Zone on the ThinkTech Live Streaming Network series. We've been talking with Kajana Movery, CEO of the high social agency. So thank you, Kajana, for being here. You've got a couple seconds. Is there anything else you'd like to say? What I could say? Stop waiting. Go for it because what you want is right on the other side of what you're afraid to do. That is powerful. How can we find you, Kajana? How can our watchers find you? So you can visit my website, which is www.highsocialagency.com or if you're more interested in my personal life and story, you can find me on all of the major platforms at the Social Marketing Dude. Awesome. Thank you, Kajana. Thank you so much for coming. So thank you to our executive producer. Thank you for all the people. There are a lot of people here in the studio that you can't see and they've been taking care of anything. So thank you to our listeners for listening and ThinkTech will be back tomorrow for the next show in our ThinkTech Live Streaming Network series. So please tune in. Tell your friends to tune in. And if you like this show, you can find it online, on YouTube, on Facebook, and you can share it with your friends. That's a good way to practice your social media. So if you'd like to be a guest or underwriter or volunteer, if you want to join us in our studio, please contact Jay at thinktechhawaii.com. If you want the links to our live streams or our previous broadcasts, you can visit ustream.tv or youtube.com or just go to thinktechhawaii.com. And I'll be here next unless I'm fired after the show. On October 5th, for more advice on getting out of the comfort zone on ThinkTech, I'm Marby Kelly. Thank you so much. Aloha, everyone.


Please join back. Welcome everyone. Good morning. Welcome to a new week. Before we begin, is there anyone who would like to open us in prayer? J. Heavenly Father, we come to you under the name of Jesus. We thank you for this day. We thank you for the class you're about to have. God, I just pray that as we are listening to the classes, you will guide us. You will fill us with the revelation of who you are. You help us to understand you better. You will help us to have a deeper relationship with you, Jesus. We give Smith Amman into your hands. Be with her and guide her. And I give all the classmates over here. Give us good wifi connection throughout the session that we can glorify your name together by listening and by learning about Jesus. We give you all the glory and honor in Jesus' name, we pray. Okay, so last week, we covered until chapter 11. We went into the teaching on head covering. And there were questions we hadn't talked about. Before we go into that, maybe we can do a quick review. Jeffrey, now would you like to do it? Or if you're welcome to do it. I think we did from 10, 5 to 11, 16. But we can leave 11 out for now because we'll go by 11 again. So maybe just chapter 10. So we started with chapter 10 where we learned about having a right heart attitude. And we also learned that we should not lose our way. We also saw how the Israelites were lustful, how they were focused on their meeting, how they were idolaters, how they were sexually immoral, how they were testing Christ and complaining and murmuring through we were looking back at numbers chapter 11. And I believe so, to see, to have a comparison of how they Israelites with numbers and exodus chapter 32, how they were worshiping the idol. So we were going back and forth, understanding the Israelites, how they were keeping some things above God. I think that's what we saw in that. And we saw how they left their first love and provoked God to jealousy. We understood that we can't be part of both demonic as well as the spiritual realm. And we also learned that we should always care for the other person more than us, be willing to do it for the sake of others, no matter what we do. So we saw four points regarding the sense of eating the food of idols, the spiritual aspect, the worship of God and demons. And we also evaluated, is it just a defying or is it just a culture? And is it really good for others? And that's one of the things that we saw and I think after that we actually moved to chapter 11. Thank you. So yeah, this chapter 10 closed the section on idol worship that Paul had been talking about. So in the previous chapters, he had just started the introduction to, is it okay to eat food offered to idols? He talked about his own life as an example. And then he goes back in chapter 10 to just call, to ask people to consider the Israelites example. And then looking at the Israelites example, asking people, how can you engage with another demonic power, even if the ideal is nothing behind the ideal, it is a demonic power. And so when you are participating in something involved with that, you are allowing that into your life. But if you also are participating, taking part in the Lord's supper, and a part of that as well, you are a part of Christ, then you cannot also be part of the demonic realm. So there's a lot more that the chapter talks about, but that's the general summary of it. So we can go back into chapter 11. We covered some of this last week, but we look at it again and then we'll also look at any questions that anyone has. So chapter 11 verse 1 basically concludes the previous section.  So that was the same thing where he had given his own life as an example. And then he concludes the worship passage. And then this actually is the last statement that can be added to the previous chapter, rather than starting this next section. And then in verse two is where he starts the next section. And he's talking about traditions that have been passed on to them. Now, in the next few verses, the chapters is where he'll start to address some of that. So the Lord supper he talked about in this chapter. And so we look at that today, I think. So from verses three onwards is where he in 3 to 16 is where he talks about spiritual headship and the head covering. So there are many things that he addresses here. Maybe we can first address. Yeah, I don't know if we should go back over all of this, but we'll go do a quick summary of it and then we'll ask questions. Okay, so verse three, but I want you to know that the head of every man is Christ, the head of woman is man and the head of Christ is God. So here he's first addressing this issue of headship where God the Father is head Christ is after man is after and woman is after. So the head of woman is man, the head of man is Christ and the head of Christ is God. So we can see very clearly here that the kind of headship he's talking about is a question of authority, a question of someone having some position of power. But at the same time, when we see the head of Christ is God, we understand that Christ, Jesus Christ and the Father are equal. They're co-equal. They have equal power, equal standard. But Christ willingly submitted himself like we saw in the book of Philippians that Christ submitted himself. So in the same way, this chapter will talk about how the woman is to submit to the man. But we'll also look at whether he's talking about women in general or women in a marriage relationship.  So when he's saying that a man covers his head, he dishonours his own head, but he dishonours Christ. Because right before this, he has said Christ is the head of man. So almost like the uncoupling of one's head was a sign of a position of authority in that culture. Now, we can say that in our culture today, there's nothing we see around us that tells us if your head is uncovered, you have a position of authority.  That is not what we see in our churches. And we all come from different places, different cultures. So we can testify to the fact that in different cultures, the covering of the head or the uncovering of the head will probably mean different things. And he's also talking specifically in the context of praying or prophesying. Verse four, every man praying or prophesying. So in this context, when you're praying or prophesying, a man should not have his head covered.  So that is the same as her having her head shaved. And then verse six, if a woman is not covered, let her also be, let her head be shaved. But if it's shameful for her head to be shaved, then let it be covered. So here he's saying the opposite. So he's saying women must cover their heads when they're praying or prophesying. Because if they don't cover their heads, then they are dishonouring their heads. So dishonouring their heads, again, that dual meaning of dishonouring their own cells, but dishonouring the person who's in a position of authority over them. So in this case, they are dishonouring the man, right? Because we saw the head of the woman is man. So why do we take this as a marriage relationship specifically for married people? Because the word that's used for man and woman can also be translated husband and wife. But the other thing is the woman cannot be dishonouring all men by keeping her head uncovered. It's not that all men have some claim over a woman or all men in some way are affected by what one woman chooses to do. So understanding that there is a special relationship and even as he goes on, in this we'll see, he's talking specifically about how God created Adam and Eve. And Adam and Eve were husband and wife, so taking that into account as well. Okay, and then he uses the example of if her head was shaped, that would be a shame to her. So using nature's example, like naturally women have long hair and he'll also state that a little later. So just going by what is natural. If it is natural for a woman to have long hair, then it must be that covering is something that God has given. But if it is shameful for her to shave her head, then it is also shameful for her to leave her head uncovered. So he's saying it's as bad as shaving your head.  Now we know that in different cultures, it is common for women to have their head shaved. So again, this is in this culture, in this setting. Okay, so it doesn't mean that no women should ever shave their head.  That is for that day because that's how women received glory was through their hair. It was considered as a woman's glory to have long hair. So it was also considered like we talked about last week, an object of lust. So when a woman left her hair uncovered, it was like she was trying to provoke lust in a man, trying to get his attention. So this idea of covering their head is also to encourage modesty within the church, especially among wives because they would honor their husbands and submit themselves to their husbands and acknowledge that they are already committed to one man. So verse 7, for a man indeed ought not to cover his head since he's the image and glory of God, but woman is the glory of man. So man uncovers his head because he is the first created and he carries that authority that God had given him right at the start. We see in Genesis God created man and woman in his image. So it's not saying that only man was created in the image of God, but he was the one who was created first and he was created just out of the month. But woman was created from man itself. And so it shows that she has been created from man and that's why she covers her head. So she shows that she is under man's authority. Whereas man, because he was not created from another creation, but just from God himself, he shows his position of authority under Christ by leaving his head uncovered. And then it goes on to explain man is not from woman, but woman from man. Nor was man created for the woman, but woman for man. So we see that in the Genesis account, right? The man was created first and then woman was created from man. And then verse 9, the man was created and then woman was created for the sake of man to help him to be a companion to him. So this is the example that Paul is using. So this is proof that because man was created first, he has some position of authority and then the woman came second to support the man and she also came, she was created out of the man.  So if he's saying the same thing, so she must show that she came from man and because of the angels, we see that the angels, we are testifying to the angels. So the church is a testimony to angels we see in Ephesians 3.10. Paul says to the intent that now the manifold wisdom of God might be made known by the church to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places. So the church is supposed to be displaying God's wisdom to all principalities and powers. That includes the angels. So when the woman acts outside of that wisdom, then she's not displaying that to the angels, to these principalities and powers. Okay, verse 10, verse 11. So Paul uses this example from Genesis, but he's saying, okay, before we take this too far, I'm not trying to say that women are less than men. So I'm going to clearly, so he said he's using the example from Genesis to say to make his point, but he's also saying let's not take it too far. So 11 and 12 is man is not independent of woman, nor is woman independent of man. So although woman came from man and was created for man, it doesn't mean that she is dependent on man and man himself is completely independent. He's saying we're both mutually dependent. And then verse 12, for as woman came from man, even so man also comes through woman, but all things are from God. So remember that we are all dependent on each other and we're at the end of the day completely dependent on God. So whatever he's saying is just to serve the purpose of showing this hedge tip, showing that place of, to show, to honor the person who is in a place of authority, but not to say that women are less or men are in a place of glory, women are in a place of shame, nothing like that. He's just to serve that teaching that he is giving them. Then verse 13, he'll continue. So this is where he talks about what is natural for a woman. Judge among yourselves is proper for a woman to pray with her head uncovered. Does not even nature itself teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him. But if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her for her hair is given to her for a cover. So he's just talking, this is sort of like a philosophical argument. If you look at nature itself, nature itself shows us that women naturally have long hair and men naturally have short hair. And so if we're just to follow the natural way of things, then we understand that women should have a head covering, should have their heads covered and women don't need to have their heads covered. And verse 16, if anyone seems to be contentious, we have no such custom law to the churches of God. So this is to say that from here we're saying this is not a custom for everybody. But he's saying this is for the Corinthian church. So this is not something that is followed in all the churches. So that's pretty much the end of it. So verse 16 can be understood in two ways. It can also be understood again as another philosophical argument of this is just the way things are in this culture. This is the way we need to follow it. That's one side of it. The other side is we have no such custom law to the churches of God to say that this is not something that is followed by all the churches, but is something within this church. So that covers this whole section. Before we move on, are there questions that people would like to bring up? Just a clarification, maybe not a question. In verse 9, you were comparing it with Ephesians chapter 3 verse 10, I believe.  Can you just repeat me the explanation so I get a clear understanding? Yes, so that is verse 10.  So in Ephesians, maybe we can go to that chapter Ephesians 3. Let's just open that up. Evan, can you hear me okay? Okay, so we've been looking at Ephesians 3.10. So it says, his intent was that now through the church, the manifold wisdom of God should be made known to the rulers and authorities in the heavenly realm. So in this follow saying that the church is supposed to display God's wisdom and we are supposed to be a witness of God's wisdom to the spiritual realm. So rulers and authorities in the heavenly realms. And so if we are not following God's wisdom in one way or another, then we are not fulfilling that calling that is upon the church. So in that way, we are actually given a place of privilege over the spiritual realm where the church itself is an extension of God's glory. We manifest God's glory. We manifest his wisdom, his power, his authority. So in all of these things, even in the ways we function in the things we do within the church, all of these things should reflect that Godly wisdom. So in this case where God is the head and he has placed his given authority in the church to people in a certain way. So here is given men authority women within the magical relationship. So if we are not following that, then we are dishonoring God and we are not fulfilling the purpose of the church to reflect or to be in God's wisdom to the spiritual realm. So is that clear or any other questions? So I just want to make sure I'm understanding it right. So you're basically saying we are displaying the wisdom of God with the dark of covering the head or that's what you're trying to say. Okay. So I have one more question. We saw that the culture also that the prostitute actually leave their heads uncovered over the place. I think that's what we saw. Yeah, they leave their head uncovered. And that's why Paul intentionally mentions here to cover cover the head. So is there any reason why it says the man shouldn't don't doesn't have to cover his head. And also in verse seven we see for man indeed out not to cover his head since he's been mage and glory of God, but women is the glory man. So I just to make sure I'm understanding it so that I don't have doubts. So man is not covering his head because he's created an image of God is that's the only reason that's is that's what he's trying to say or is there any other reason that man should not cover his head. Okay, so specifically about why men should not cover their head. So it's the same as women covering the cultural thing.  So that's why our prostitutes would leave their head uncovered. So in the same sense he's saying in a cultural thing it is not appropriate for a man to cover their head. So there were parts of that culture where it was customary for men to cover their heads. So he's talking to this specific group of people and it probably is within this group that it's not appropriate to cover your head. Whereas in other parts men did cover their head.  But the other thing is since he's the image and glory of God, but woman is a glory of man. He doesn't say the woman is the image of the man. So when he's saying he's the image and glory of God, it doesn't mean that the woman is not the image of God. So men and women in Genesis recently he created them the image of God, male and female he created them. So both men and women are created in the image of God. But here he's specifically saying that the man was reflecting God's glory in a way that God had created him to carry out his purposes on earth. So God had said you are going to be my representative on earth and God had created man to do that. And then he created woman to support and help the man. So he was the glory of God in that he was the one who was entrusted with God's work on earth. And then the woman was created to be his partner in that. And so she is the glory of man because she is doing that work with the man to fulfill God's calling or God's purposes for creating men and women. So yeah, that's the difference. Okay, any other questions? Let me continue in this chapter. So Paul is looking at different aspects of the church service. So his first he was talking about how people should pray and prophesy, how men and women should pray and prophesy. The next he's going into the Lord's Supper and he's talking about how should the Lord's Supper be practiced within the church? So if somebody can read those verses 17 to 34, verse Corinthians 11 verses 17 to 30. Now in giving these instruction, I do not praise you since you come together, not for the better, but for the worse. First of all, when you come together as a church, I hear that there are divisions among you and in part, I believe it. For these, there must also be factions among you that those who are approved may be recognized among you. Therefore, when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord's Supper. For in eating each one takes his own supper ahead of others and one is hungry and another is drunk. What do you not have houses to eat and drink in?  What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you in this? I do not praise you. For I received from the Lord that which I also delivered to you that the Lord Jesus on the same night in which he was betrayed took bread. And when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, Take, eat this is my body which is broken for you. Do this in remembrance of me. In the same manner, he also took the cup after Supper saying, This cup is the new covenant in my blood. This too, as often as you drink it in remembrance of me. For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death till he comes. Therefore whoever eats this bread or drinks this cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of the body and the blood of the Lord. But let a man examine himself and so let him eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For he who eats and drinks in an unworthy manner eats and drinks judgment to himself, not discerning the Lord's body. For this reason, many are weak and sick among you and many sleep. For if we would judge ourselves, we would not be judged. But when we are judged, we are being chastened by the Lord that we may not be condemned with the world. Therefore, my brother, when you come together to eat, wait for one another. But if anyone is hungry, let him eat at home. Let's still come together for judgment and the rest I will set in order when I come. So he switches here. So in verse 17, he says, okay, now in these set of instructions that I'm going to give you, I cannot praise you. Because when you're coming together, actually your meetings are doing more harm rather than edifying you or building you up as a church. So that is a problem. A very sad thing, right? So that when we're coming together to worship God, we're coming to fellowship. That actually the body of Christ is being harmed rather than being built up rather than there being an increase in unity and love. There is a breaking down of that unity through these gatherings. Verse 18, first of all, when you come together, I hear that there are divisions among you. And in part, I believe it. So sadly, like here he's talking about this specifically in the Lord supper. But we see this also in so many of our churches today that there is people are coming together to worship. But there is division amongst the believers. It's a very sad thing. Are there divisions that you all have seen in churches that you've been part of or churches that you know of? And what are those divisions that you all have seen? What kinds of divisions? I have seen caste divisions among the people. I think that's one of the worst things that could happen in a church. And I have also seen the division of people who are in authority or people who take care of things in church. They have a very special favor from the pastor and the leaders and those who just come to the church, they don't have some favors. And I think that's also one of the worst divisions that could happen in church. So in many parts of India, the issue of caste where people come from a certain background, their families come from a certain background. And there is a sort of hierarchy where if you belong to this background, then you have some kind of power. You have a position, a status that is different from someone from another background. And so that division then based on your background where one group of people won't interact with the other group of people or will look down on the other group, those kinds of things. So even though we're gathering as a church, we're meeting for a church service or any other gathering, people will stick to their groups based on whatever their background is. So they'll stick to their group of people and will not interact with the other group. And then the other side of if you're in a place of authority having enjoying some privileges that the rest of the congregation doesn't enjoy. Anything else anyone has seen in their churches or observed in the church in general? And I think even the rich and poor is still there in some churches because if a church needs something, to build something, let's say they are in need of more chairs or tables or anything. So obviously they rely more on the rich people in the church and they give them some special favors because they believe they can give them the money. And that difference is always there. So when a rich person comes to church, there are some separate dress bags, separate chairs, or separate place for them to sit, separate snacks and cold drinks for them or something. It's funny to see all these things sometime, but yeah, it still happens. And it has quite become like a political thing where they just do something, just a comparison of churches where my church is better or your church is better. Those kind of things. So this is based on their financial status. So the rich are giving more. What is amazing is like all of these examples are actually even talked about in scripture. It's not something that's new or unique to the present day church. It's right from the early church that those things, distinctions between the rich and the poor. And what we see in the Corinthian church between the elite and those from the lower classes. And yeah, so this basic discussion that Paul is having on the Lord supper actually involves a lot of that, that elitism versus the lower classes. Okay, I can see Rosalind has posted. If there are rich tiders, pastor will visit them. And if they have any functions at home, but for others who are not so rich, any function, the pastor will send the elders or the leaders to do the function. Yeah, so we give more attention or more importance to those who are wealthy because they are also tiding and contributing towards the functioning of the church. So pastors feel this pleasure to please those who are contributing because they may lose their contributions. And so then that affects the functioning of the church. So these are very sad things where we start to depend on people. We start to depend on the money that's coming in rather than recognizing that God is the one who supplies all our needs. And the church runs on His grace, His provision. So this is where money can become a downfall for churches, right? So we've allowed money to determine the courses of action that we take as a church. We've allowed money to determine how we treat people, how we interact with them, the kind of respect we show to them, the kind of services in this case that Rosalind said. So the pastor will serve these people. But if it's someone from a poorer background, then he won't necessarily go in, but he'll send other people from the church, elders from the church. So thank you all for sharing. So division in the church, it's not a new thing there. So we see that in the Corinthian church. And he's saying, I hear that these divisions are there when you all are gathering. So in this time of coming together, there are divisions among you. And then he talks a little bit sarcastically in verse 19. There must be these divisions among you because through these divisions, it proves those who are actually approved by God and those who are not. So he's almost saying like you are coming and you'll have these divisions among you, but your divisions are serving the purpose of showing that those who have this wrong attitude towards others are the ones who God doesn't approve of. You yourselves are proving that you all are not in line with God through these divisions. Verse 20, therefore when you come together in one place, it is not to eat the Lord's supper. So he says, you're coming together and your intent is to participate in the Lord's table. But that may be what you're doing when you'll come. But actually that's not the real goal. That's not the real desire of your heart because in verse 21, he says, when eating, each of you are more concerned about food for yourselves. You're more concerned about satisfying your own hunger to the extent that one person remains hungry and the other person has over-indulged and actually is drunk. So he's talking about both food and drink because there was wine as part of their meals, but that wine would not have been highly alcoholic. But because they were drinking so much, they were getting drunk. While on the other hand, there were people who were leaving that gathering still hungry. They hadn't even eaten. So this also actually points to the culture of that day. So it was common for the church to meet in patrons' houses. So there were no church buildings where they were gathering. So meeting in people's houses and it's usually a rich person. And in that culture, during the meantime, there would be one main area where the rich people would sit and eat. And there was another area where the poorer or lower class people would eat. That was kind of, they could see each other. So the people from the main area could see the people from the kind of the secondary area for those from the poorer people. And usually within that main area, the food and the wine was of better quality than the area where the poorer people were sitting. So this was always something that was kind of people in that secondary area were not happy because the food quality was not good. This is in the general culture, not specifically in the church, but in the culture that was the practice. And so this seems to have transferred into the church where they were meeting in the house and these rich people were sitting together in that area and they were enjoying themselves. They were eating and drinking, but the poorer people were being forgotten. So they were still getting their food, but obviously not enough to satisfy their hunger. And it seems to be that this was the attitude within the church that each one was trying to satisfy their own appetite. So each one takes his own supper ahead of others. So everyone was just concerned about eating. They'd forgotten what was the purpose of them gathering. And so this was supposed to be like we did in the Old Testament, the Passover meal, right? Where they gathered and they celebrated Passover as a family, as a community to remember what God had done for them, how he had rescued them from Egypt. So this was supposed to be a continuation of that practice. So it was supposed to be a meal that they were having. But the problem was that they had taken the Greek feasts, the pagan feasts and they had kind of mixed it with this Passover meal and it had become something where people are engaging in gluttony and emptiness at the end of it. So we'll just take a break and then we'll continue in 10 minutes.


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