I warn you, this is an expert audience. We have industry here. We have nonproliferation experts here. We may even have some regional experts here. I'm going to start off with a couple questions. But my big one is, and we'll start out, we have to compete with next door, costs. Chris, you brought up this topic. And I think our slides will be, are your slides releasable to our website? Yes. OK, so all of the slides that you saw today will be up on our website. If you have trouble accessing them, just email us, and then we'll send you PDF copies. But I thought your slide was fascinating. When you take out the US, if you want to think of the US as outliers, the costs are still rising. When we were in India, one of the comments that the WNA person made was, gee, wouldn't it be terrific to have the Chinese and Indians in there as suppliers? Because it'll bring the costs down. So do you think, now, sort of the Chinese and the Indians are, definitely the Indians are hypothetical at this point. But South Korea, do you think South Korea as a new supplier is going to contribute to bringing the costs down for a new nuclear build? Or is this kind of the loss leader that they have? And if you could talk about the different kinds of costs, because obviously, suppliers who are so strongly supported by their governments have a lot of different ways, a lot of different sweeteners that they can bring down some of the costs for new recipients. I thought you were going to ask an easy question to start. I'm sorry, answer whatever question you want to answer. My boss has been bugging me to get a really good close answer on nuclear costs. And the problem is that there's a tremendous lack of transparency, especially in the Chinese manufacturers. So what are they concluding in the costs? In Korea, the bid that they won was significantly less. The bid was significantly less to the French on an order of $16 to $20 billion less. So many people believe that there's no margin in this first investment for them. But from a strategic long-term positioning strategy, and the Koreans are very, very good at that, they desperately needed to expand their nuclear capabilities beyond Korea. And this was an excellent opportunity for them to go ahead and do that. And I was there just a few weeks ago when it was a whole showcase for Korean technology and what's going on. So the costs, it's a very, very difficult thing to do. There's confusion, what's included, the vendor, the overnight, the all-in, owner's cost. And so there's confusion in that. The presence of global competition is going to make a difference. But I see prices rising steadily. And it's a very, very expensive technology, so expensive that a lot of countries are sort of giving pause to pursuing their investment. And a perfect example of that would be Poland, which has a desperate problem in that 90% of their generation comes from coal. They desperately need an alternative, but they're scared to make an investment in nuclear power because they don't have a history. Even though they have a very long and well-established research group, they don't have experience constructing. And they're very scared of the prospect of having another European nuclear economic disaster like it exists at Flammenville and at Okiluto. So one of the bigger components of cost is the financing. So one of the strategies for lowering costs is to build them more quickly. And the Koreans have been quite good at that. The Chinese, I think, are also good. Do you lose something when you're trying to build things so quickly? I think Alan made a very, very good point that you never know really the cost until all the job is completely done, like you can't evaluate a real estate transaction until you sell it. So when the project's all finished and done, then you will get a good assembly. We spend a lot of time modeling the time value of money. And if you have a 10-year construction cycle as opposed to a five-year construction cycle, what does that do, and all else being equal? What is the impact of that going to be? In a current interest rate environment where interest rates are low, it's less of a significant difference, but if you're at a high interest rate, which could happen a few years, it could be disastrous for some of these projects. Another very important characteristic of building nuclear power plants globally, I think, is, and this, I think, played a very big factor in the Korean victory in the Emirates. That's not so much the technology that matters, although matters to a great extent, but the ability of the engineering procurement contractor to go ahead and get the job done. So the Europeans were struggling with two projects in Europe. The Koreans through Samsung and Hyundai have demonstrated their ability to build projects on budget, on schedule, in the region. And when you go to the debacle installation, you have a sense that it's exactly what's happening, that it's almost military-like in works. They're getting it done. But again, it's still very early in the game. The South Koreans, I'm sorry, and then I'll, just want to follow this just a little bit more. The South Koreans have a lot of big construction experience, particularly in energy projects in the Middle East. I'm not quite so, I don't know as much about the Chinese, but I would think that building reactors in China and India is a whole lot different than it might be building other places. Do you think the Chinese and Indians might have trouble sort of translating that capability overseas? It's a separate question from capacity, because I think I would like to talk about capacity just later. One of the questions I wanted to find out, and I specifically asked the head of the construction product, how many Koreans were on site in Bahurak? And there are 1,200, or there will be 1,200. So 1,200, they said the total workforce was 10,000. So the ability of Koreans to mobilize 1,200 people to come from Korea with experience working on the reference plants in Korea, and then now to duplicate that experience or leverage that experience to build more effectively in the Emirates was a very, very significant strategy that is being implemented by the Koreans. Whether or not the Chinese can accomplish the same, it remains to be seen. And that's one of the issues that we're looking at in Europe where the interest in the UK government to revitalize their nuclear power industry means that they're gonna develop their own supply chain, they're gonna put their own engineers to work. So in essence, one can argue that you're having your third first of a kind plant in Europe. And so how much learning experience is going to follow the third construction of an EPR in Europe remains to be seen. In China and in the US, there's been a tremendous amount of movement of US construction people to China to observe what's going on. So the projects that are being built in the US are taking advantage of lessons learned in China. Apparently they say the same thing will happen for the EPR project, but when you look at the estimates for that project, one has to question whether or not that's really happening. Questions from the audience? Do we have, we do have microphones. So Corey up front and just identify yourself. So following up on, oh sorry, Corey Hinderson from the Nuclear Threat Initiative. Following up on this discussion of costs, and it comes back to something that was in Allen's presentation about the kind of dominance of the Russians in winning the most recent rounds of contracts. In thinking about the responsible nuclear suppliers, what we've heard from others is that there are concerns about Russian supply when it comes to, again, not the credibility of the fundamental technology, but QA, QC, culture issues, the rest, and yet they still are winning the contracts, which to me seems like it's based, that in the end it's based primarily on cost. So my first question is, is that true? I mean, is cost really what's winning out over these other concerns? And the other related question then would be, are there ways to describe costs that aren't direct financial costs to doing business with partners who may not be responsible nuclear suppliers? And then I don't want to single out Russia there, but so that happens to be with the reactor units in that case, but to Gretchen's point, it also would seem to be a consideration when you're establishing your relationships up and down the supply chain. Allen, do you want to? I think the best answer I can give to the question is that there is price and there is cost, and sometimes there's a relation and sometimes there is not. And so what you are seeing is a price, a nominal price that's out there, and from the perspective of the buyer, that's what the buyer sees, and the buyer's making decisions on low cost to them, which means lowest price. How that correlates with the actual cost of executing the project can be all over the place, as we know. And we were talking earlier about transparency. There is no transparency out there with regard to a lot of the contractual terms, and certainly not into the costs that the vendor sees. In Finland, in Flammableville, you got the public companies, you can see the cost impacts of those projects. We don't see the cost impacts of what's happening in Russia and the Russian-built reactors. I don't think we've got a clear picture in China or India as well. And so it's very hard to tell whether or not the vendors are actually making money or whether they are losing money either on purpose or by accident. But if you're a country that's got limited resources, your focus is on price that you see, and then you try to get the kind of terms that will make sure that the vendor honors that price. And if the Russians can continue to offer prices that are very competitive, bring along the financing and an additional thing, which I didn't mention, potentially offered to take back the youth fuel, they have a competitive advantage that nobody else can touch. V.J. and then Melissa. Thank you, V.J. Sazwal, USAC. My first question is very similar to what the earlier questioner asked, which was that you mentioned the elephant in the room, and I thought it was not Rosatom, it was really the financing. I think that is becoming a very crucial issue and all the reasons that you have given a bunch more. It's the local politics of these countries is driving people, essentially, the busbar price is absolutely not acceptable in most countries. And I will today give it a less than 50-50 chance that even the Czech Republic will go nuclear at the end of the day, besides, of course, Poland. And this is being solved by the Russians through essentially putting up a sovereign fund, which is essentially funding most of these activities. And on the other side, we have UK, which is coming up with real loan guarantees and other subsidies for the consumers. So we really have to think in terms of the developed world where we will, at the end, have to rely on governmental assistance of one kind or the other. And on the other side, in the foreign emerging markets, financing will be the key factor for us to make any sale. Any other comments, I would appreciate it, but let me also go one question to Gretchen. Gretchen, I noticed you didn't mention anything about IAEA's program, which is also fairly wide and comprehensive in terms of getting new countries shaped up. Are we still trying to kind of look at it as a bilateral type of arrangement, or do you think multilateralism has some space here for them to work on? Thank you. The reason I didn't mention the IAEA is that I was really focused on industry-led programs. So all the examples I used were industry-led programs, and there are obviously lots of great things that are going on that are coming out of governments or the IAEA, and by no means did I mean that, it's just that I was focused on industry's role. So there was no ill intent of not looking at them. In fact, I have staff that spent a lot of time looking at nuclear newcomers and working through the IAEA and fabulous programs that are going on. Before we go to Melissa's question, we haven't talked about small modular reactors. And I'm almost getting the sense, because this is, in some circles, this is the thing that's gonna save the US nuclear industry. And some of these recipients actually would be better off with small reactors because of the size of their electricity grids. But the sense I'm getting from our conversation today is if the big guys, the Russians, are gonna do all this financing and take back spent fuel, that why would any other country be, why would a new country that wants nuclear power be interested in anything else? You guys have any responses? I must admit that Alan took me out late last night several grandma and yeas and we discussed this topic at great length. And I missed it, how did I miss it? I'm very well prepped for this. So you know my head is there. You know, small modular reactors seem to be a great solution for certain applications. And there's two of them that I can think of, perhaps three of them that I can think of right away. But there's a lot of controversy surrounding them and for all intents and purposes, you know, we can still describe them as being paper or PowerPoint reactors until we have one in the ground operating and generating electricity. Jordan has signed a contract with Rosatom to build a thousand megawatt reactor thereabouts and to supply electricity to a grid that's only 2.6 gigawatts. So that I think defies all sorts of engineering logic to put a thousand megawatt reactor onto a 2.6 gigawatt grid. Secondly, Jordan is one of the driest countries in the world. Nuclear is one of the thirstiest technologies in the world. So to put a nuclear reactor, which is very thirsty and when the driest countries in the world does not make any sense. Jordan has a tremendous solar resource. They are cash constrained to me that makes sense that they do one of two things. They try to deploy solar technology on an incremental basis, wait until an air-cooled Babcock and Wilcox small module reactor that's being supported by DOE is introduced in 2025 timeframe. That seems to be a plausible good solution for them instead of going and spending a lot of money on a big reactor. A lot of skepticism in the industry, I think about the wisdom of going ahead and investing in a large reactor for Jordan. The undersecretary of energy from the Sudan looking to shop and buy a nuclear reactor for Sudan and he very quickly focused on the interest in small module reactors as being something that makes more sense for them. In Poland, there's a huge controversy right now whether or not to invest in large reactors because they don't have experience doing that or to go ahead and develop smaller reactors which enable them to go ahead and displace existing very dirty coal facilities to site the nuclear reactors in proximity to the load and to also reduce the investment risk that they face by spending, I think their estimate is 18.9 billion for three gigawatts of reactor. So that's pretty close to the, it's not as high as the Hinkley investment but it's pretty high on the range. So they're scared of the financial commitment they have to make. They need smaller reactors and deploy closer to the load so they don't have to go ahead and invest in transmission facilities. So there are certain applications for them and I think the industry and the need is there and they would have sales if the technology was deployable imminently. Sure, and let me add a first of all, I'm not sure who took who. But the, I happen to be an SMR skeptic and I'm skeptical because there's a reason that reactors grew to be as big as they are and that was to gain the economies of scale associated with a high upfront capital cost technology. It's true that there's another way to get economies of scale and it's volume production which presumably would be one of the driving forces to making SMRs economical but in order to do that, you have to make a lot of them and if we end up with five or six companies that are effectively offering SMRs and each company only has an order for three or four of them, you'll never get the economies of scale. They were the approach, there's a reason that they were started in the United States conceptually. One is because we've lost the capability to make the big reactors in the United States so there was a desire to go down a path that would allow us to build them. We can still make small things because we still make submarine reactors, for example. The second thing is financing and the problem that we have in the United States is that we have a very balkanized utility system with a large number of relatively small utilities. Even the biggest one does not have a balance sheet that can take a huge lump like 10 to 20 billion dollars and put it on the balance sheet. It's almost impossible. It's completely impossible in the merchant market. And so there is a driving force in finance and there's one in fabrication capability that says small reactors in the United States. The problem is that unless you can produce kilowatt hours coming out of those SMRs at a competitive price compared to the big nuclear plants and everything else, then it doesn't have a place in the market and that remains to be seen. So that's why I'm skeptical. One last thing that I would add is that once again, the Russians are the elephant in the room. They've just finished the construction of their first small modular reactor, which happens to be on a barge, which is modeled after their icebreakers and their submarine fleet. And so they're the first to be out on the market with a demonstrable small modular reactor. I'm Melissa Mann with Eurinko. I wanted to ping off something Corey said and this cost always went out. And I can tell you that in my marketing experience, I've never been given credit for being a good non-proliferation player. It really does come down to cost a lot, which raised a question for Gretchen really. And a lot of the incentives you talked about were for the suppliers. Have you looked at all about the benefits of having incentives for the buyer to buy from those that really do have the good housekeeping seal of approval? Because my sense is what you want is for all suppliers to come up to that level. That's a great question. The one thing I should make a point is we've been talking about suppliers and I just want to broaden out that when I've been using this term often, I'm also talking about that whole supply chain with respect to the dual use folks as well. And often, as I think you've heard me say, Melissa, reactors don't fall off the back of trucks. And so they typically don't get diverted and what does get diverted are more of these other smaller things that are all going into, whether it's design as centrifuge or whatever. So that's just a comment that I just, making sure definitionally that I get that out there. But as far as looking at it from the buyer's perspective, it isn't interesting. I haven't thought of it turning the cart that direction or looking at that way and be happy to brainstorm and try to think of what went on this list or completely different list would make sense to try and help them see the importance of trying to source from these folks that really are doing above and beyond what they should be doing. You'd think at the end of the day, even their reputation matters, right?  So you think you in a sense would increase your reputation, not just the reputation of the suppliers, but you as the buyer as well. That would be my hope and just my gut feel that that would make sense. But anyway, happy to brainstorm with you. Paul Murphy, Mill Bank. Just on the point of reputational risk, I would add, in terms of considering angles to the discussion to look at lending policies because whether it's export credit agencies or commercial banks, reputational risk issues are a huge factor. You can sort of separate out the financing discussion into sort of the classic, will I get paid back? How will I get paid back? And then equally important that we're seeing in the deals that we're financing right now on nuclear projects is the reputational risk analysis. Is this a good project in terms of looking at the country, in terms of looking at the capability of the host country regulator? And putting all these together to meet the lending requirements that the banks have as well as sort of sustainability issues in terms of the overall project that are not unique to nuclear, but are part of these lending policies that the banks have. And so even if you don't wanna rely on the benevolence of the market in terms of the suppliers and the customers, if they have to finance it on the market, they're gonna have to deal with these issues. If I can respond to that one, Sharon? You and I need to talk. I could not agree with you more. We've just started this really interesting piece in looking at kind of the finance trade and who all the players are and talk about making your head hurt. Given you do this for a living, you probably know this picture that's been shown to me of letters of credit and all the different folks involved. I mean, it's incredibly complex. But at the end of the day, I'll call it a risk assessment. Someone has to decide how risky is that deal? Is that worth me getting involved in or not? And we've been looking at the folks who do those valuations. I mean, even like the Dun and Brad streets and folks that are actually out there and trying to talk to them and seeing their interest in incorporating some of this thought process that I put out there. And one of the big issues that's part of it is that is the capability of, is it independent? Thanks. Is it independent? But that's sort of the first principle from IEA that we want an independent regulator and there've been comments about what happened in Japan and maybe they weren't as independent as they should have been, et cetera. But you start with that as a first principle and then you get into great that they're independent but that they have a clue what they're doing. Do they have the knowledge of what they're regulating in order to be an effective regulator and then on top of that, if they have knowledge and independence, will they actually do something when they see something wrong? So you look at it at all three levels and have to diligence the regulator to be confident that they will be the adult in the room because the lenders are not gonna be able to monitor the project on a daily basis and so they're gonna wanna look to that host country regulator to make sure that they are capable which raises the question in terms of the build-on-operate model, sort of Russian model of hey, hire us, point to where you want it, we'll do everything. It does raise the question of who's minding the store and does the host country regulator have the capability if they're going to Moscow and being trained that's not necessarily a bad thing but then will they act independently or be beholden to the country of origin for everything that they do? Yeah, great point. May I add something there? Sure. I just wanted to add something because the case of Bonner and the Emirates is, to my mind, again, unique. The Emirates are in the nice situation of having enough money to buy whatever it is that they need and they bought a very good regulatory scheme not only modeled after the Nucca Regulatory Commission but they actually hired somebody out of the NRC, somebody who I know quite well because he regulated me for about 20 years and did a very, very effective job and he went around the world and got other good regulators from the UK and other places so there is a very good cadre of people at Bonner as we speak right now. The trick over the long term is to transition to a situation in which the Emirates are actually doing most of the regulation themselves because these people are not gonna be expatriates there forever. But I don't know of any place else in the world except maybe Saudi Arabia where there's enough money to replicate this model nor do I think there's a willingness to do this in most countries and so that regulatory risk is a very important factor in the risk profile for projects like this. If I could add one thing, going back tying this into small module reactors and so I got the impression in Abu Dhabi a few weeks ago that it's so complex, it's such a huge struggle, such a steep hill to climb to establish the regulatory infrastructure and to build a Nucca reactor that it may be just easier thing to do to establish some sort of plug and play small module reactor thing which sort of on a build on operate basis which makes it much easier for them to get to the point where they have carbon free nuclear power. That's a very dangerous road to go down but I can see that the obstacles to establishing an industry are huge where it may be easier just to buy small plants and have them somehow outsourced in some of the other issues. Dangerous way to go but I can see where there's a lot of institutional obstacles, regulatory obstacles that can effectively stall many nuclear ambitions of many countries. I think a good point but I don't think SMRs, there's still gonna be a wide swath of regulatory activities that you would need. As a matter of fact, what the SMR guys in this country complain about is the fact that the regulation is just gonna be too onerous.  So I think the idea that you can plug and play, that sounds to me again like the notion that you have a reactor that you can walk away from after an accident. It's kind of the holy grail. Well some of the smaller reactors you can just come and take a truck and pull it away. The thing that we have to realize is that we're not making a unique product. It's electricity so there's many other ways to make electricity so a lot of these countries who are financially challenged are going down the path of least resistance. So we see nuclear cost and regulatory cost climbing and then we see solar energy cost declining. So who cares if we don't have electricity in the middle of the night? We do have some electricity. So there's margins and opportunities in the area for some of these countries to say that we can couple the solar with natural gas or so. So we don't have a monopoly on power generation. I think that the industry should be aware that there's threats to that. In this country we're closing five reactors or we'll have closed five reactors by the end of 2014 because of low natural gas prices. So that can happen elsewhere and it could also forestall the development of new reactors. We need to be aware that we're just not, that there are other technologies there. I'm sorry I have to intervene on this because it's true that there are four reactors have been shut down and one more is scheduled next year. Of those reactors only two of them were for economic reasons and the economic reasons in fact were significantly more than just the cost of natural gas. The subsidies which are being used extensively for wind technology have so unleveled the playing field with the cost of electricity is actually negative in many places in the United States and you can't run a base load plant when the price of electricity is negative without losing money. And so there's the combination of wind subsidies, the low price for natural gas and then the three of the reactors, Crystal River and the two at San Onofre, those are being shut down for technical failures. One with regard to the utility doing a bad job of opening up the containment with a costly repair that was un-economical and San Onofre bought two defective steam generators which could not be made to work right in the regulatory scheme we have right now and the cost of replacing them was too large. So the three of those five had nothing to do with natural gas. I disagree respectfully in the fact that if the price of natural gas was double or triple what it is the economics of repairing the reactor at Crystal River and the San Onofre's would have changed. So natural gas was at 10 bucks as opposed to at four bucks. The economics penciled out that the reason that Edison decided to close that is that there was no certainty as far as restarting those reactors and we had cheap natural gas so who cares?  It's gonna significantly impact CO2 emissions in the state and you're reducing portfolio diversity and I don't agree with the decision. I really wish those reactors were continued to operate but it's the rules are the rules that exist in the country today. Unfortunately we are seeing a lot of very good nuclear generating assets closed for surprising reasons. I think we have a question in the back. Okay. Other questions from the audience? Then let me follow up with question. So we were in Korea just around the time when the scandal was first starting to break and we didn't get a lot of, so these workshops that we had featured government, some government officials, academics, some industry representatives. We didn't get too much response on the corporate governance part of it. What the Koreans were very concerned about was this capacity issue. How were they really going to build a lot of reactors in the UAE when they were building at home? Do you think after, and these scandals have just grown and grown, do you think after, at this point, that the Korean vendors and sub-suppliers would be more amenable to this kind of corporate governance approach? And if so, how do you get to them really? Yeah, no, it's a great question. I don't have a, because you always ask difficult questions. A great answer for you. I mean, you'd hope so. I mean, what would be interesting is to look at, you guys have just been to the, see the new reactor that they're building. I mean, I just would love to know, has there been any shakeout? Has anybody kind of, as far as them building these reactors abroad going, you know, maybe we gotta be really careful in looking at if there is any corners getting cut, making sure that quality control is at most. I'd just be curious if there's any more stringent kind of look at, and back to financing, you know, maybe finance folks are looking at this and going, maybe there's a little riskier deal than we really initially thought we were getting ourselves into. But I mean, they were okay receptive. I mean, I mentioned a couple of the comments I got on the work. It wasn't a complete thud by any means, but I agree that the issue at the end of the day was really human capacity. I mean, having the bodies, and that whole issue we heard about training and trying to train all these new folks, and the king, I think, don't ask me what it stands for, but I think, remember that acronym? Anyway, you can't forget king, it's kind of a great name. But anyways, this place for training of the next generation of all these workers. So, anyway, it sounds like... Two finger from Paul, Murphy. Can I ask that these not be for attribution? For, I know we're on the record, but can I sort of... There's an unknown person in the back of the room, or this is being webcast. Okay. Then I'll have to be intentionally vague on a few points, because we're financing the deal. The scandal in Korea has had an exceedingly high priority both for the lenders and for ENEC. And it's something that when it happened, they took exceedingly seriously. And a lot of time has been spent understanding the issue in terms of what exactly is going on and how might it affect the project. I think that, and I don't know if it came up in the conference in the UAE a few weeks ago, but ENEC was a very aggressive in investigating the issue and putting procedures in place. I can't really say more than that, but from a lender perspective, that was a confidence-building measure to see that the ultimate customer took it very seriously and didn't just say, well, this is the supplier's problem, we don't care, they... And I think that goes back to the point of having a very capable owner organization that can be an intelligent customer of the nuclear technology to basically drive the process. The Koreans took it, that made it a very big issue, but ENEC took it very seriously and drove the process as well, and the lenders did as well. So he had pressure from three points. I mean, I think from the Korean perspective, it's an issue of pride and making sure that for future projects that this doesn't get in the way of them being successful, their reputation was called into question. I think the reality, the unfortunate reality is this happens on all projects. Whether it's a nuclear project or not, and perhaps because it was a nuclear project, it was taken even more seriously, because of the high standards in the nuclear industry, the margin for error is so much less, so that if there's any blip on the radar, you're gonna jump all over it. You would hope that these things don't happen, but they do, and you have to deal with them. So I think that being a responsible customer was important. It was important for the lenders to see, it was important to see that Fanner was taking it very, very seriously well. And so I think when you talk about why should you behave well, why should you care about things as the seller, the fact that we see that the lenders and the regulator and the ultimate owner were all over this was a very big deal. One of the reasons why it is so important for entirely different reasons is the reference plant for the deal of Shinkori three and four. So for an APR 1400, it's never been built before, anywhere in the world, they're being built in Korea. And so one of the issues was, well, the APR 1400 would come online so many years in advance of BRCA one, of four. And so you would have multiple years of operating history, and whether it's the commissioning, the testing, everything. And there was confidence in that you would have this number of years. Well, because of the cabling issue, it's gonna delay those projects in Korea by a certain amount of time and people can research what it is. Let's just say it's significant. By having that delay, you are cutting into the amount of operating history you will have before the first unit comes online in BRCA. So for very selfish reasons, that's an issue too for the ultimate owner of these projects, because now it's affecting some of the data that they would have had to layer into that project. So it's a big issue from many different areas, but I think the important thing is that it's not just the Koreans taking responsibility for their failures, it's important to see that the Korean government has jumped all over this, that the owner, the lenders, and the host country regulator are all over the issue. So it's not something that they could hide from even if they wanted to, but I think from the way they've responded and taken it very seriously, everybody's taken confidence that, yes, we've had a very unfortunate thing happen, but it's being handled in a very serious manner. Other questions from the audience in the back? Good morning, Jim Olum from Lightbridge. I just wanna amplify what the gentleman from the bank was saying, and basically my training has always been that the operator of the plant is ultimately responsible for safety. It stops right there, and the feedback has to go from them, and E-NEC is a really good example of doing it right. And the thing that concerns me is where you have a situation like the build-on operate, where the regulator, if there even is one, has kind of a paper tiger mentality, and the operator is the one that's really the designer, the builder, and the get out of my way guy. And I think that that's a difficult situation to rectify with the operator being ultimately responsible in a country that may have a weak regulatory regime. So I just throw that out there to think about as a kind of a caution, where here in the US I think with INPO, we have a really strong operator capability mentality about a strong nuclear safety culture. WANO, I hate to say it, but WANO is not as strong as INPO, and WANO needs some work, and what they deal with that makes their job so difficult is the diversity of cultures that their responsibility spans. So how do we help WANO would be one question to be able to be stronger and do the things that INPO can do to demand excellence. Can I respond for that? Great, great question. I was just gonna mention that at the break someone came up to me and said, why didn't you have WANO on your list of the company, of the organizations, the entities? It's exactly for that reason. I said, because I don't think they deserve to be. I mean, they just don't have the teeth that those other organizations are really trying to, and so I completely applaud your comment that what we can do to try to help WANO, but it's anyway, it's not there yet. That's what Jim has mentioned, I think is very important as a general principle. Our focus was on responsible suppliers, but you gotta have responsible customers as well. And it is being a responsible customer is doing what ENEC did at the advice of their international oversight board to chase this one down and make sure that it doesn't impact their project. I'm not sure that every place in the world the same kind of response would occur from every customer. Right, so the slides, how I got into this was my concern about when you look at the distribution of nuclear energy, it's gonna shift dramatically from countries that are mostly in the organization for economic cooperation and development, OECD, North America, to lesser developed countries. And so the question is, in my mind for a long time is, all right, if you have some issues about governance in those countries, what can you do? Well clearly those countries themselves have to build up their capabilities, but what will the suppliers also need to do? I would argue that the UAE may be the anomaly because they've had, A, because it's the first country in the Middle East that's gonna have nuclear power, so it has to be better than the best, B, because they have a lot of money to purchase the kinds of expertise that they need. So the question is Bangladesh. I ran into a Bangladeshi nuclear official, ran into him, we were in Vietnam, and I said, so really, why did you choose the Russians? Financing cost. But there's a whole, it's a package deal, right? And so the safety culture, all of it, all of it will be Russian, the Bangladeshis will be sent to Russia to learn Russian. So there are some issues with that. I'm not getting down on the Russians, but they are not, they have clearly, Bangladesh clearly has not developed the kind of capacity or capabilities that it needs in governance, whether you wanna talk about nuclear safety, security, regulation, all of those things to be able to be a strong regulator in this scenario. And so that's the kind of thing that we need to watch across the board and that the nuclear suppliers themselves have to be quite cognizant of and not always just so ready to jump in with sweeteners to these deals. Do my panelists have any last words of wisdom to offer? With time's lunch. Well, we can certainly break early. Thank you so much, everybody for attending. We will have Mampreet Seti in January who's attended our Indian workshop here to talk about some nuclear issues in January. We'll also be issuing a broader report on the Sustainable Nuclear Futures Project after the holidays. But please join me in thanking our terrific speakers. Thank you. Thank you.


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This may be the future of note taking. This is a 14 inch blackboard letter with a carbon copy pen. I'm sitting here in my five-dollar lambsack working outside. Oh, they can write notes, ideas, plans, and synchronize everything through the phone. So then these notes get on here. I can also synchronize them on Google Drive. So I have all this right here on Google Drive. So these notes can be synchronized. So it's all up to what skills you have with the pen. What cool stuff can you do?  And that's all your notes are saved forever through the app. So everything is saved, always in sync, good for working with customers, good for working with colleagues. You can go in the park socially distanced, do your brainstorming in the park, take your notes outside, readable, or in the office also, very thin and light. And right here I'm editing a 48 minute interview with Ken displays, which I filmed a few weeks ago, where they detail more about this carbon copy pen, which is now shipping to all the backers. And it's going to be available retail. This is very affordable, light, ultra low power, good for the environment, unbreakable, hopefully, and great in the sun outside. Thanks for watching. Please introduce yourself. Hi, Charbax and everyone else. My name is Asel Khan. I'm here in Kent, Ohio, USA, with Ken displays and boogie board and really excited to participate. And my colleague, Nithya, is here as well. Hello. Thanks for having me. I'm pretty excited to show you a brand new product here that we're launching. You may have seen it on Kickstarter and we're excited to talk about it. Yeah. I was seeing this right here. This is your Kickstarter. You have so far, I think it's something like $53,000 support, right? And people can just in the next 13 days, you'll be ending the crowdfunding campaign, right? And shipping soon. That is correct. Yeah, we started on August 4th. So nice. So can we see the product? It's right there. It looks really awesome. Yeah. So this is our Blackboard letter product by boogie board. It came out a couple of years. And what we're doing today with our carbon copy is we have this very awesome product. It's the carbon copy pen. It's the surprisingly simple smart pen. So with this pen and with the smart template behind it, I can basically write on the boogie board and then press this little icon down at the below. And it shows up on the app. Nice. That's awesome. So this is full recording of everything you type in. All the CHLCD is like perfect for taking notes in a very natural way, right?  And then now with this pen, you'll be able to record everything. Yes. I have pages and pages of notes saved in my phone. It's been incredible. It captures everything. Can we see a little bit more? At the demo, maybe you can tilt the phone a little bit. It's a little bit bright, the screen. Maybe make the screen brightness a little bit lower, just so we can see a little bit better, maybe. Maybe it's just on my screen. And Charback's, while Nithya is doing that, another amazing part about this pen system is that it works across multiple boogie board products because the smartness is in the pen. The boogie board prevents you from wasting pages and pages of paper, which these smart pens can be also cost prohibitive to keep buying this paper. So we are also very excited about this amazing sort of consumer experience with the boogie board, but now the smartness of the pen combined together and extendable


Well, good morning Saints, this is a brother Mike back on my Sunday morning podcast at 9 o'clock Pacific and Arizona time It's noon on the East Coast. Thanks for joining us I'm brother Mike on the Counselor at the Arizona Deliverance Center for hardcore Christianity comm in central Phoenix We're on 15th Avenue just south of Osborn Road It's the red brick building and you remember we have two live services every week Thursday and Friday nights at seven o'clock Arizona and Pacific time We have preaching teaching healing and deliverance at both those services and they're both recorded live on our YouTube teaching channel plus two or three others Just go to youtube.com slash house of healing AZ and You're there every Thursday and Friday night brother Rick brings the message on Thursday nights That's our best service of the week for deliverance is really fantastic Also remember that we have two live Healing and deliverance to zoom services every week Tuesday nights for the ladies only with Julie and the hardcore ministry team and Wednesday nights is for men and women brother Rick and Stephanie and The other ministry team members are killing it on Wednesday nights. Just fantastic Julie's zoom is growing every week So it's really been Very encouraging to see this happen So if you need help you can show up live or you can show up on the zoom Or you could send me an email Mike at hardcore christianion.com and I will send you The ID and the password for the zoom services and I will send you the miracle list the miracle list is probably The greatest treasure known to America that nobody knows about I sent out dozens of these miracle lists every week And only a fraction of the people actually do them, but the ones that do them their lives are Catastrophically changed the miracle list. I'll send it to you As soon as you send me an email Mike at hardcore christianion.com The government's brought ready to come out with a new virus And then we're going to have to have another vaccine. So if you need a religious exemption form for that fiasco Send me an email at mike at hardcore christianion.com. I'll send you out a religious exemption form a s a p And thank you for your support yesterday at the carls bad Deliverance seminar. It was Absolutely fantastic as far as I know only three people got mad at me And That's not bad. We had 40 or so people there. So three out of that many is A better than my normal average. So if you assume there were Double that amount That you know, there were others that got mad at me and didn't say anything So that's only six So yesterday was fantastic.  We had several deliverances julie and an and renju janifer They came over here and bailed me out and they did a fantastic job yesterday It is really really great I wanted to share one healing yesterday that was very interesting I was working with a young couple a husband and wife And both of them Good-looking people Intelligent Very likable and nice personalities and He was suffering from procrastination and she had this strange odd pain in her stomach And it had it. It seemed to me like she said she'd had it for years And she was a very gentle loving kind person and she Wasn't living in any kind of sin had a great character, you know, just a very strong woman of god and him too a really beautiful couple and She couldn't get this thing out of her stomach. Well We started to pray and I asked her to join in and I saw that she had a coward spirit And now the bible says When paul talked to timothy He said god has not given us the spirit of fear Right, and you know the rest of the verse everybody hasn't memorized You have power you have love you have a sound mind Now the greek word for power there is in that verse is dunamis Which means supernatural power when you have the holy spirit living on the inside you have You have supernatural power that comes from him And he's in your spirit man and The holy spirit only gives people a sound mind Sophranismus is the greek word. It means A mind that operates Properly correctly Fundamentally sound that's what it means And it says Love agape is the greek word for love and that is the love of christ Transferred into your spirit man by the holy ghost Everything you get in your ministry and in your christian life from now to the day you die Comes from the lord jesus Through the holy ghost and he implants it inside of you That's how their system works right Well, this girl had That verse god has not given us a spirit of fear Well, that verse was a little mistranslated in the king james bible It wasn't the regular greek word for fear, which is fubos It was the greek word dalia, which means cowardice And that those are the demons that cause people to be shy Interverted withdrawn emotionally and it usually it Gets in the a coward spirits usually get in in childhood During periods of of abuse or bullying in school Where a child is embarrassed or humiliated and they develop this kind of sense of internal fear And fear of conflict they have a fear of public speaking They have a fear of standing up for themselves. They have a fear of speaking out Okay It's a dalia spirit. It's a coward spirit Okay Well, god just made me that way brother mike No, he didn't Okay, you heard the verse God has not given you a spirit of cowardice. You have divine agape love. What you know what that is? Of course you do It's a love that comes from god implanted in your spirit man by the holy ghost and it's supernatural unconditional love So that you can love people that are unlovable So you can love yourself That's the toughest one the person That you are is the toughest person to love but supernatural power of god agape Allows you to do that and well this girl had a fear spirit from childhood. She was coward She was cowardly And I noticed when she was praying She was praying kind of gently and softly She kind of prays like this lord. I pray in the name of jesus And I bind this spirit in the name of jesus and I said I stopped her and say this isn't going to work Okay, this is you're not good. We're not getting this thing out All right, you you need to do as paul said to timothy We need a warrior spirit here not some spirit of cowardice That's going to keep you in bondage Okay Fear and cowardice are two demons that always work together Here's how it works They both usually get it in childhood And then the fear spirits the ones that gives you the spook Boom The coward spirit is the one that causes you to become withdrawn and not seek help You become withdrawn and you don't seek help That's a coward spirit The other feature of the coward spirit is what this woman had at the service yesterday She won't fight for her life she was More apt to fight for her other people's lives or people she loved She was much better at that But fighting for her life Not on the table it's not going to happen. She's going to pray just like I was praying I could be in this spirit to come out in the name and she is lord of No, stop Stop Okay That's not how you do it And we must learn To do it as jesus did it Okay, jesus was the greatest that had everything period and that means he was the world's greatest deliverance minister No questions asked no doubt about it What did he do he firmly aggressively Spoke directly to the demons and he said I charge you Come out of the boy and never enter into him again mark chapter nine Jesus was aggressive with demons No nonsense. He bashed him right in the face Kicked him in the groin Shoved him out of the airplane with no parachute Vicious Vicious Praying doesn't work with demons Jesus never prayed over demons He blasted him He blasted him so She was praying and she wasn't doing a very good job. So then I recruited her husband I had him start commanding with her and now that helped that was a little better. He was a little stronger Okay Well, I had to go pray for somebody else as you can imagine. It was chaotic around the altar call time. So I went Go see somebody else. Well about 15 minutes later or so She comes walking up to me with tears in her eyes and then it was beautiful She was really a beautiful woman. She had great personality Very good heart very tender person Super gal Sanctified Not living in any kind of sin at all sin was not the problem at all And she's got tears in her eyes. She says This is what happened to me and she's kind of started to explain it and she was kind of Broken and so on but apparently what this demon had done After she started to attack it After she started to do as jesus did As jesus taught her I charge you She became aggressive Fighting for her own life And you're you're supposed to do that. You're supposed to fight for your own life. God wants you to do it He loves it when you do that This thing came out of her stomach and went down her right leg and out And she was amazed while I was working with another woman there who Was um, you know a long-term project and she wasn't getting delivered and her mind was blocking All kinds of stuff and she was doing very poorly But she did get some minor breakthrough though Some good things did happen to her and she brought two friends with her to the service and they were very helpful too. They kept they understood Everything I was saying they understood deliverance and they were trying to encourage her to receive truth and Get better.  I remember when I was in junior high. I started my boxing career in california I'm from anaheim right now. I'm podcast coming to you from ocean side women and carls bad yesterday And unfortunately, I got to go back to phoenix. I guess it's 118 there today. Good grief When I was in junior high I one of my boxing matches on my boxing team was putting on exhibition at the elk club In anaheim And I remember I fought in it Fought in that fight. I won a little trophy. I still have that little trophy today. It's about that big I still have it Don't say anything But after that fight I didn't do very well And my dad was so proud of me I'll never forget that My dad was so proud of me. I just thought that was the most wonderful thing in the world Well, I said that to say this Your heavenly father is That way and way beyond it way beyond anything my dad had obviously He's very proud of you when you fight back when you become a fighter See When you cast out that spirit of cowardness and you say this isn't the way god built me I'm just naturally shy.  No, you don't do that. You you fight back with god's word You fight back with genuine faith and assurance You got this thing covered and the holy ghost has got your back The key to deliverance and everything else in your life from this day forward Is getting the holy ghost to show up. He's the He's the difference maker He's the difference maker I want to do something a little different today Yesterday's service was uh, there were several people that had some really good questions And they were very helpful. I thought I would do that today If you have a question just pop it up on the screen here and We'll take a shot at exploring it because yesterday's questions Uh, we're very good The people that got mad at me in the service yesterday was over the subject I taught on last sunday I don't know if you remember that but it well, maybe it was the sunday before it was called another jesus I taught on another jesus.  There's a Fake holy spirit out there.  Maybe he's got to change up. That's about all all the kid uses No, in the big leagues You can't come up there with one or two pitchers. You need a range of pitches That are solid to be able to last in in major league baseball Okay Probably the greatest pitcher that ever lived was the great nolan ryan from texas this guy Was absolutely ridiculous He struck out so many people nobody else can believe it I mean talking about nobody who plays major league baseball can believe it.  They not only have a blistering 103 fastball They've got all kinds of pitches Knuckleballs change ups Everything coming at you Well, the holy ghost knows everything about that and infinitely more and he is the difference maker The holy ghost is a difference maker And you've got to be able to generate Or allow the spirit of god to move In order to get things accomplished And so that these other spirits this other jesus this other gospel that paul was talking about from the carinthians and galatians This is the thing trying to block the moving of the real holy spirit because when he shows up The demons get their faces kicked in But the key to getting him to show up is your genuine true faith in christ And your assurance and your confidence that what the bible says is actually the truth And you have no doubts And no unbelief that's the key to it when you have that Boom, the holy ghost shows and he shows up huge He shows up big He showed up yesterday. Thank very thankfully at our altar call your calls bad yesterday. It was it was fan fantastic Okay, here's a question. Does it matter? Does it matter if you say in the name of jesus? Or in the name of jesus christ? No, it does not That phrase in the name of jesus Is it is a phrase that? Uh Legalism absorbed and they use it all the time in the name of jesus in the name of jesus In the name of jesus doesn't do any good unless you have genuine faith behind it what it actually means is by the authority of In the name of jesus through the authority of jesus christ the son of god You do not have to say that little phrase With everything you do you do not have to say that I've had Dozens of people healed over the years where I just said heal or I grabbed their body part Be healed something like that. They got healed It's not it's not your legalistic pet phrases That generate the moving of the spirit. It's your genuine faith in christ the living christ Jesus the king of king and lord of lord And here's another question People have are going to heaven and hell is that a spirit? Yeah, that's a familiar spirit He gives them a vivid I'm telling you reality like you can't believe familiar spirits Uh are the most powerful of all demons the smartest of all demons In the book of revelation they take over the planet for the false prophet familiar spirits are The demons that run all the world religions They run all the church denominations. They run christianity in america They run the mega churches. They have witchcraft voodoo You name it occult new age. Uh, I don't want to keep going but All the spiritual things in in the world Are run by familiar spirits They're they're the worst ones and uh They also when they get in your body They start giving the person terminal illnesses And for some reason they like love cancer and arthritis And I don't exactly know why that is But anyway, what the devil is doing he's sending in these It's most of it's in the charismatic or prophetic movement.  Do not get involved. Okay, give you an idea how silly this is I was watching the elysian list one day and the elysian list and syd Roth are the two worst offenders of spreading familiar spirits In churches in the united states Um The guy that runs Elijah. Elijah was a really great guy Sid Ross a really good person. He's he's he cares.  He's a good man of God Elijah this guy. He's a great man of God They they've been deceived by familiar spirits because We are playing checkers and the familiar spirits they play chess I mean the gap of intelligence between a human being and familiar spirits is it's embarrassing It's huge Okay, that's why we have to have the holy ghost because when we use him and rely on him We are way beyond any familiar spirit and any other demon that costs it face up in your life The holy ghost is is the difference maker He is he demand as they say on the street and the demons Shit and it says right in james the demons They believe and they tremble. Well, that's the manifest presence of the holy ghosts. They start trembling Happened yesterday at the carlsbad service I was talking to some lady about About glory clouds and a spirit manifested in her stomach and told her that I was I I was a fraud and she she had red flags about me. This thing actually moved. She could feel it move into their stomach another lady's hands Narrowed up like this severe. Have you ever seen severe rheumatoid arthritis? During her deliverance Yesterday I mean they just just like that and this is a witchcraft thing when your hands curl up in the knots Some form of witchcraft she got him Those those are spirits. Okay, so Steer completely away from these familiar spirit visions and dreams Uh, the lady I was watching on Elisha this had taken a trip to heaven. She goes there every week And one on one trip she went to an area of heaven where santa Was riding around with the reindeer rude officer And santa goes around and gives toys to children the guy on the Elijah list Really great guy No discernment of any kind never caught it And and god is is screaming at these prophetic. Hey grave soaking Todd Bentley Look i'm exposing this for you glory clouds laughing and cheering and doing cartwheels over glory clouds The Hebrew word is kabo The glory of god descended in the temple People were crushed They had to get out of the temple Because the glory of god was so powerful and so convictive Okay Yeah, the legendary british evangelist smith wigglesworth Had a prayer meeting one morning On one of his evangelistic trips Everybody showed up all the ministers For the crusade showed up And wigglesworth sat on the stood on the platform and he was standing up there Leading the leading the praise and he was going like this with his hand And uh Kabo the glory of god started to fall And People started to leave the room.  They were humble They were in all reverence And at the end of the prayer meeting Nobody was left except wigglesworth. He was standing up there by himself praising praising god There it is in in The prophetic movement when the glory called falls glory cloud. It's actually a satanic manifestation Everybody's fooled and they're all doing cartwheels. They're laughing. They're jumping hysterical laughter cheering clapping like somebody won the super bowl So all that stuff is a manifestation of familiar spirits.   He creates a statue Greek word is icon. He creates a statue of the antichrist and it starts moving It starts talking Friends, it's already happening. There's deep fakes all over the place. You can see this thing coming. Can you? Somebody calls you up and it's your friend and they're talking to you. You'd swear it's your friend.  It was it was a parody. It was a joke He sounded and looked exactly like barack obama I mean we live in a world now of monumental fakes And that's familiar spirits. That's their specialty That's their specialty Um I want to caution you about deliverance now as I mentioned before This uh movie came out biggest thing that ever hit deliverance in the united states Locke uh had this movie and it was spectacular and all these people getting delivered God bless the movie. The anointing was there at the end of the movie people were getting delivered left and right in the theaters That's kind of sorry for the theater managers not really sorry But kind of sorry because a lot of people puking in the theaters So they had some extra cleanup that day, but it was a good thing the problem is that deliverance is now the flavor of the month, but God showed me that it's going to fizzle out. It's going to go like this And the only people left are going to be people like me who do Biblical deliverance, which is Keeping it based around repentance You can blow demons out of people at the mall or out in a park and that looks sensational You can film it and put it on youtube or put it on your facebook page. What have you instagram? but The demons always come back Matthew 12 luke 11 and These people don't have any defenses. They have not been I made that term up And the demons get right back in So you got all these people that they look like they're a big deal To people and they're blowing demons out of people But they're actually making people worse If you cast demons out of people and you don't give them repentance If you don't disciple them in some way You have you are going to damage that person You're going to damage that person And they're going to get worse Yes, they are they're going to get worse They're going to get worse Okay, is there any other questions be happy to answer them?  Okay stay in your body And turn your heart over to the lord That's that's the best way to do it.  Oh, it's so warm and fuzzy I feel love. I feel peace. Do not do that. Do not do that. Those people did not make it to heaven They drifted off into the abyss Okay, please do not do that. It's extremely dangerous. And again, this is the world of familiar spirits It's it's not just magic It's it's a real they are real Okay, they give real sicknesses Real illnesses they love cancer for some reason Lot of christians, particularly in the charismatic and prophetic movements come down with cancer Okay They come down with cancer second morning. I want to give you a little bit of an example I've mentioned this before please be careful about getting around people who advertise themselves as prophets and apostles Yeah, that is very very dangerous. That's a marketing ploy to give the person some kind of instant Out-the-door credibility And that is not how It's done. That is not the way to do it apostle Paul did the opposite He only defended his apostleship when he was being challenged on it Other than that, he saw himself as a servant and mentioned that several times Once again the legendary and british evangelist wigglesworth was asked one time What kind of what kind of gifts do you have? You have a bunch of spiritual gifts Wigglesworth said it's not for me to say whether I have a spiritual gift or not If the gift manifests then that means I have it if it doesn't manifest then I don't have it you see people that are Truly filled with the spirit and we don't have familiar spirits in their brain And that's how it works. The holy spirit lives in your spirit, man The deep familiar spirits are in your brain giving you these visions trips to heaven All this weird stuff That's how it works That's exactly how it works The demons in the brain tell the person.  What about me? What am I? Oh brother mic, you're an apostle. I am yeah You've had thousands of people delivered from demons. You've had hundreds of people healed You're impossible Listen, I'm not an apostle. I'm not an apostle prophet I'm a regular person just like you A normal man And I'm trying to do my best and I got my flaws and faults. Someone came out to the seminar yesterday Some people criticized me at the seminar. You know, they were right. I mean, you know, I don't exactly have the nicest presentation, but No Okay, a real apostle was defined by the apostle paul to the Corinthians. What an apostle is These prophets that are running around the country. They're not they're not prophets They have impressions and they're spirit man And they just give Impressions I have a word from you from god The lord says well, and then it falls out of their mouth Like old dentures Please don't get sucked into any of that Please don't do it All right, that's a red flag if somebody has to tell you they're an apostle You're in trouble because If paul and wigglesworth didn't do it But everybody knew they were apostles That's how it's done That's how it's done That's how you do it.  Uh, yeah laying on of hands. You got to be very careful with laying on of hands Paul warned timothy of that Okay, you can be a partaker of somebody else's sins. It's called transfer spirits If I have a spirit of lust and I put my hands on you in a spiritual setting Okay Well, I can transfer a lust demon into your body I can transfer it in there if I'm Got witchcraft demons and I used to be heavily involved in the occult or new age And now I'm a christian Now I'm a born-again spirit fellow christian, but I didn't finish my deliverance and I still have familiar spirits In my brain and the holy spirit in my spirit. That's the case And I put my hands on you I can transfer some kind of a New age or witchcraft type spirit into your body Okay, have you ever been subject to a transfer?     You're going to start having Strange sensations in your body. You're going to have me and start having Panes in your body that move around their shoulder pain moved down to my lats. Oh and now it's my l4 5 Moving floating pain is a red flag.  They're trying to tip the scales back to failure backsliding loneliness depression self-hatred low self-esteem rejection They're trying to trigger Those sensations that they are giving you They are giving them to you and you picked them up when you were involved in sin.  You went through a period of screaming and cursing Something transferred in or you're sitting in church and some prophet or apostle comes by and lays their hands on you and boom your hit short story I had a Beautiful woman on my ministry team Uh a couple of years ago And she caught on to deliverance very quickly and was doing just a great job Well, it's kind of a long story, but um, I helped set her up in her zoom ministry and then I you know Released her from our ministry and then she went out on her own on her zoom ministry but before that After she had gone through deliverance and had been doing some wonderful deliverances at the at the At hardcore She went to a service one time with her husband. She went to see some prophet And at the end of the service this prophet said Who wants to come down to the front for prayer and come down the altar For blessing or whatever it was while her husband took a look at this guy had red flags And he left he went out in the lobby and This woman that was on my ministry team Didn't get the red flags went down to the altar He put his hands on her head And boom She hit the floor and picked up a rack of transfers. You would not even believe It took a few days and hours of deliverance per day To get those spirits out of that woman She didn't even catch it her husband Who was not in deliverance and was not a very spiritual person Had gut checks and red flags over this guy And went into the lobby But she the spiritual leader of the family And the one who was on my ministry team doing deliverances Didn't catch any of it Went down to the front and picked up a rack of transfers now fortunately All the demons were later cast out with the point i'm trying to make is And you got to be careful You don't be careful in the prophetic movement they spread familiar spirits around like you can't believe. I mean they hand them out like candy They do it through what they what they call fire tunnels And everybody goes down this tunnel And you have all these other prophetic and charismatic on either side putting their hands on them and speaking words over them and Downloading blessings and all kinds of stuff. What they're doing there is they're transferring spirits into these people And you'll see people coming down the fire tunnel. This this one's not doing nothing They're just walking down there like nothing's happening. The one behind them is going through all kinds of manifest gyrations Vibrating like a tuning fork all kinds of weird stuff Nobody sees that as a spirit Nobody nobody catches it.  You don't know anything about it.  That's what jesus said by their fruits. You will know them and You examine them by their spiritual fruit Not their behavioral fruit It's their spiritual fruit jesus was talking about because religious people can appear to be incredibly sanctified and remarkably holy behaviorally No, you have to have discernment you have to have discernment and see What they're like and what they're about That's the key and again that takes time It takes prayer it takes knowledge of the word and it takes experience. Okay? Never forget this. You cannot replace experience with knowledge Okay, you could have 50 degrees And be absolutely useless and in fact, let me let me tell you the truth These people with master's degrees and doctor of divinity degrees these people are virtually Useless when it comes to meeting real people's needs Real people's needs Okay, I have more education than most people do. I have a bachelor's degree. I have a master's degree Uh, I took those two degrees when I got in the ministry walked over my trash can in my office throw them in trash I threw them in trash Why because I'm looking for miracles. I want people to get healed Childlike faith Childlike faith triggers miracles not degrees Not knowledge not human intelligence. See your IQ isn't the determining factor. It's your childlike faith Two issues to pray for Lord Jesus, please give me childlike faith and love Listen if if you get that prayer answered You're going to become a very dangerous person.  I got a divinity degree and chair chance tree and biblical studies and Hebrew Forget about it Think about it. So think about what I just said If you were if you if you if you were dying of cancer Would you would you want to go get prayed for by a bible scholar? Or somebody's grandmother who spent who has knees that are worn out at the altar Are you crazy? Have you lost your mind? I wouldn't even go drive by a bible scholar I go right to grandma Grandma, can you pray for me?  They're worthless They couldn't pray the way out of a wet paper bag. We take you to a great job explaining the bag They go into detail about bags I mean you don't need a bag Dearest you need a miracle from god. You know how you get that love Childlike faith That's your prayer That's what you're looking for Thank you for coming to service yesterday. We had some really good healings. We had a lot of good deliverances. Thanks the ministry team again I'm in ocean side and I'm getting ready to leave for the heat And I hope my air conditioner is working. All right. Thank you for your prayers and thank you for your donations I'll be back ministering at the deliverance center Friday Oh man, I got a good one for you And don't forget about the deliverance training class Saturday. I'm looking forward to seeing you there that will also be broadcast Kelly will be back in town. She's been in colorado for a few days She'll be back in town and I shall be taping that and we'll put it online for you. Okay. I love you Thank you for loving us


Uh, Larry has a question. Larry has it. Larry wants to take us down a path, perhaps a mini dive of the, of tweaking the Apple TV experience on John. Yes. All right. So, um, so here's what Larry has to say. Call us weird, but we actually like to watch the credits and we like to read them. Uh, on Apple TV and most of the apps, the up next bar appears and gives you like 10 second countdown to reach for your remote and flip around and try to prevent it from auto-playing the next video. How do I just get rid of that altogether? I did some searching and found that there was a setting and accessibility, but that didn't work for me. So then I fast forwarded through a show and was quick on the draw and just skipped ahead a couple of up next video frames and at least got it to stop doing the countdown, but the bar does not go away. I just don't want it to be there. I'm very capable of figuring out what I want to play next. Also, isn't there a faster fast forward that scrubs through really quickly rather than just the standard two times? Uh, if I push down on the Apple TV remote, it will fast forward, but at VHS speeds. Um, I can't seem to do it on the Apple TV remote app on my phone. Is there a solution for this? But as for fast forward, Dave, I did found a trick, uh, and it was in a, uh, and I think I've actually done this and just didn't realize it. Yep. Um, and I found a support article over at Apple. Is there a way to fast forward really fast? Uh, and the answer is yes. Okay. Um, um, so there are three modes, uh, using the Apple remote. So, um, there's the 10 second rewrite and fast forward when you, if you just click in one direction or the other, if you tap and hold, that's what he's experiencing, but then here's a way to go super fast is. You pause playback and then drag your finger left and right over the touchpad area and it scrubs it as fast as you can scrub forward or back. Yeah. If you get the minimize window, you can basically scroll up and then highlight it and then click on the remote and it'll make that window bigger again. Okay. So when it minimizes you, okay, I see what you're saying.  And, and until it, it highlights the little minimized thing and then you hit it and then it goes full screen. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Uh, but we will continue helping Larry because he had a second, uh, sort of related question with the Apple TV. He said, um, for the most part, things have been going well, but there was a time maybe three or four years ago when I noticed audio problems, but that seemed to go away suddenly and recently, I'm watching my Apple TV and the actors lips are moving. And then I hear what they are saying. It's out of sync. My receiver amplifier that I'm using is not super old, but it is a couple generations back, uh, but it still works great. So I don't want to replace it. This seems to only happen when I'm watching on Apple TV, not anything else. Any suggestions. And yeah, absolutely. Um, Apple TV will allow you to calibrate the audio, uh, and videos so that essentially what it will do is delay the video so that it appears at the moment that whatever your audio path is creates the audio, right? And that could be because you're doing wireless speakers, which adds some latency, or it just could be the way that your system works. And, and it just has some latency built into it. It's very, very normal. And a lot of TVs and a lot of, uh, streaming boxes have the ability to do this. I'll put a link in the show notes to Apple's article about it. But the way you do it is you go on your Apple TV, you go to settings, audio and video calibration, and then you'll do a few steps to get things in sync and then things will be in sync and you'll be good to go.


Joining me on the sidelines of Australia 360 is Professor Jeffrey Wiseman, the Director of the Asia Pacific College of Diplomacy. Jeff just gave a re-stimulating discussion about Australia's relations with the United States over the past year, but made some important points about the role of diplomacy. I suppose, Jeff, this is a time when we look at developments around the world, things are looking pretty shaky, and especially on the Korean Peninsula, where there's a real debate going on about whether the time for diplomacy is now on the on the Korean Peninsula, or where other options potentially at the other end of the spectrum where the military force is going to be employed. What would be your views on this, and what can Australia do, if anything, to contribute to trying to hose down and calm down this situation? Well, thanks, Brendan. I think it is true that this is the hottest issue on the international agenda at the moment. It's the issue that causes most concern, I think. We have to make decisions about the use of force and the application of diplomacy. My own position is that we need to use force only as the last resort. And so the question is, have all of the diplomatic options been used so far? And I would say not yet. And the second part of your question was, well, what can Australia do? The key protagonists here are China, North Korea, South Korea, Russia and the United States. And Australia has good relations, good working relations with the United States, with China and with South Korea. And we should be using all of our diplomatic resources, contacts, networks to talk to them about the issue. And within that context, telling them what we think of the issue, that we have a preference for the, for exploiting all of the diplomatic resources at our disposal. But at the same time, bearing in mind that we are something of a middle power. And so there are natural limits to how much influence we will have. And we need to bear that in mind. But having said that, we should not hold back from doing anything. We should be, in fact, engaging with the protagonists in this crisis to see if, in fact, we can make a positive contribution. On that, that role as a middle power, Senator Wong and her address talked a lot about the past and the role that Australia has paid and the past, particularly during the period when Gareth Evans was Foreign Minister. Was there something about that period that was that was unique? Or do you think in terms of thinking back to that past, is there some of that could be revisited again in Australia's foreign policy today? Well, look, I think that does raise a very important question about the extent to which Australia self-identifies as a middle power or as something else. We are, I think, in terms of global influence, whether it's measured in terms of our strength of our armed forces, in terms of our economic power and our social power, if you like, I think it can be generally said without too much hesitation that we are something of a middle power. But that depends on the issue. We are very much of a middle power in relation to the South Pacific and Southeast Asia. The question is, are we a middle power in terms of our ability to influence events in Northeast Asia? And there, I think it becomes a bit more problematic. But having said that, you really do ask an important conceptual policy question, how do we identify ourselves? How do we position ourselves? And I think it is time to re-ennovate, if you like, that debate about whether or not we are a middle power or something less. I decline towards the form of view, and we should have a robust continuing discussion about that, because it does really affect the way we influence our thinking on whether or not we should do something or do nothing. Thanks very much for that, Professor Walsham. Great to have you join me on the sidelines of Australia 360 2017. Pleasure, Brandon.


The real reason behind the redesigning of the Nigerian NERA notes, the central bank of Nigerian Sydney announced the design of the new NERA notes in order to enhance the security features and curb counterfeiting. The public outcome was due to concern about the cost of the new design, the burden it will place on small businesses and the need for proper consultation with stakeholders. The National Assembly also raised questions about the cost of the redesign and the potential impact it will have on the economy. The CBN governor has stated that the redesign of the NERA note is aimed at curbing corruption, systemic kidnapping and terrorism and adding value to the currency. The new design is expected to include improved security features that will make it more difficult for counterfeiters to produce fake notes which will help to reduce fraud and other illegal activities. Additionally, the redesigning notes are intended to better reflect the cultural heritage and identity of Nigeria. It has been reported that the cash swap project carried out by the CBN and commercial banks has been plugged by various challenges including insufficient availability of the new NERA notes in circulation. These have led to instances where some individuals and businesses are ordering the new notes and sending them at a higher price. It has created a shortage of the new notes in circulation and has caused difficulties for many Nigerians especially those in rural areas who do not have access to banks and ATMs. The CBN has stated that it is working to address this issue and increase the availability of the new notes but it is a complex and ongoing process. The CBN has stated that the new NERA notes are expected to include improved security features that will make it more difficult for the new NERA to produce fake notes. The CBN has stated that the new NERA notes are expected to include improved security features that will make it more difficult for the Nigerians especially those in rural areas who do not have access to banks and commercial banks. I personally am actually generally bad with cash thankfully so I have not been cash trapped yet over the past maybe one week. I don't know what will happen next week. It is rather sad, rather unfortunate that we are dealing with six world, I thought they said it was a third world. I think it is a tenth world problem.  It means you are supposed to have data. It is obvious that the central bank does not get appraised by anybody because if he gets appraised by anybody, he would have been fired by now. Two, every claim that they have made is not yesterday that kidnapping started in Nigeria. It is not last week that the hoarding has been ongoing. He has been there for how many years and he never, he didn't think about redesigning in 2020, he didn't think about redesigning in 2019. So every claim, every excuse that they have given or reason for this redesign in my opinion is a lie. There is something else that is prompting this. He knows it, we speculate because we think we know it. But whatever it is that he is doing, he just needs to end it and make life easy for people. It is not until people have started removing clothes in the bank. I saw something yesterday, some lady was naked in the bank. Another one today, a man climbed on top of a table, removed his clothes. We don't have to get to this point. This is 2023. Please. We do not even mention the sheer lack of creativity in redesigning the app thing. Let's not even go there. It says he wants to promote our culture. All you did was just change colours. And those were colours we had before. You just went back to the colours. It is not even fading. A plus. Tell us about the advocate. Do you also look at this from comparing these developments with the likes of China? Because I can also see videos in China where some people say they have not seen China movies for almost 2-3 years. What can you say to that? But the electronic transfers work. They work. We want to compare Nigerian with countries. We have to be careful. Compare Apple with Abalmo.  We are talking about the most tech country in the world. Where technology works, where internet works, where they have 5G. When was the last time you recharged your data from your bank? Can you log in to your bank app to start with? I have logged in to my app. People can log in to their bank. You are talking about electronic transfers. Let's be serious now. Are you aware that there are all those solutions beyond electronic transfers that people are not actually accepting? The likes of KIA code. And that's what they actually use in the likes of China. What are you using to play right now? Where are you right now? KIA code. What have you told me to the last 2 days? KIA code. I just want to know. We cannot access KIA code. Is you in Delta? Who said no? Are you talking about the CBI code? That's something we don't know right now. Do you want to know more about it? Yes. I think I have to come back. You are playing the devil's advocate. Since you are on the advocate. Today, yes. Today, we have the CBI having account of how many points. That's a legal tender fiscal cash they printed and how many is within the vote of the bank and the ones that are outside the bank. But today, they don't have a data of how this money has been spent. So I think what they are trying to achieve is to properly monitor the transaction of how this fiscal cash. The CBI governor was specifically clear of saying we should not expect the higher domination like 541,000 out in terms of availability at all times. Because he is trying to, do you know this policy has been out since 2012. And they have been trying to drive adoption. And you know as Nigerians, if things are not forced, we don't change. Really? We don't move to change. And I believe if we look at it critically, it helps us, this policy is actually going to grow our economy. But that is need for certain amenities. Like I give you an example for using your POS. POS transaction are actually not categorized to say you are using it for point of sales to purchase things at supermarket and what have you. Or you are withdrawing it for cash. That needs categorization so that people could at least buy bag of rice for 5,000 using your POS. So there are needs for stakeholders. That's why I'm saying that there are some stakeholders that are left out why this plan was ongoing. And I believe if all stakeholders are carry alone will have proper orientation and the adoption will not be as crazy as it is right now. Because everybody is actually soft coming for lack of understanding and knowledge of the impact or the possibility of the CBN policy. Yeah. Okay, you say. Yeah, Adam, thanks. Now you are getting closer to the point. The fact that stakeholders have to be put in consideration when you are doing the policy. So it's simple, if you don't want to use cash, then make sure there is a backup plan that works. It's a no brainer. If you don't want me to use A, then provide B or C. In the situation where A is unavailable and I don't have a backup plan or a backup plan to that backup plan, then it becomes useless. Intentions are useless. Nigerians doesn't really care about the intentions right now. We are talking about results. So if you have great intentions, everybody knows there is going to be carrying cash.  People don't carry cash abroad. But that's because the systems work. The POS is abroad, they work. Why are the roadside POS? How do they become so prevalent? Not because the ATMs don't work and the banks don't work. That's why they were the backup plan. So we just speak to the failure of the system. Really, is there an issue of adoption or implementation? And secondly, maybe we should really take a good look at where the actual reason is coming from. Is it the people of policy makers in critical thinking and implementation? Absolutely. So I think it's more of the policy makers. The policy makers are most of time from banking sector who follow the former sector and a former standard of which sometimes they don't have detailed knowledge or deep knowledge rather of the informal sector. And you agree with me that the informal sector are the true ones that are driving the economy. Because a lot of commodities that we buy from the farmers and what I do, they are more of an informal sector. So before you enact such policy or bring up such policy as this is, there are certain stakeholders in the informal sectors that need, or people who understand the informal sectors that need to be on their own table to see how possible you can encourage them to be part of the policy. Because today, to do a transfer to someone who is selling paper at the whole site, you can guarantee that you get value and some of them don't even have a bank account. So there are a lot of things that are wrong and we should encourage the city to take a bet. As good as the policy could be that is needed for amendment. Well I guess that was some dimension to the reason behind the redesign. I believe that in the days to come we will still know more and hopefully we really advocate that the central bank of Nigeria and the federal government of Nigeria gets a speedy resolution to the crisis that is on ground right now. Because it is, I mean we are advocating for strength but then we need that to be resolved. 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