e just going to create a new thing that's worse every way.  It's like tds Well, it gets some making some really weird arguments Like I guess it forces you to you have to find some really roundabout ways. Yeah, it forces you to you have to rely on Nonsense to try and defend these movies But I think that's the that's the key you have to force yourself to like Exactly It seems kind of insane, but then again, I'm sure that this would look awesome under a christmas tree if I was six years old An all-terrain walker. It's invaded hot from tenor star wars. The empire strikes back collection.  Okay. Yeah Yeah, no one buys no one bought the toys. Who bought who would want to buy the bomber? It's like, oh, it's this The oh the bomber Yeah, you can have it Like the guide on it says like here's how to build it and here's how to destroy it the director of the film In the other thing You know the rebels find out that the empire is there and boom These things are out there walking around ready to kill now for sure I thought it was neat when they took them down, but there's also a huge logic error there They say that the shields are too strong for blasters one goes down. They take it out with blasters I agree This does not make sense the only way you can make sense of it is if somehow they They're weakened by the fall or something, but there's no there's a shield around it Maybe but they didn't mention.  I don't know, but they don't really say that Though uh, you know, they don't win this fight But they they were setting up a cool way to take down an atta other other than Yeah, it was nifty.  Well, we've got these harpoons on the back. Let's uh stick them on the legs Go around loot the loot and it created a great set piece. So it actually created Uh, something which was more iconic and it's still remain. Oh, remember there's a really cool way Uh of taking down the at at's A lot of people are saying, um If the other rather than a negative are too strong for blasters, he shot it in the neck I just want to see the clip again. One goes down to take it out with blasters Oh Shot But what you don't need to take them down to the ground to do that Yeah, so is it like they're they're less armored on top or something that you can get at them from that angle Yeah, I don't know if they're trying to imply that like we can't get the next shot without them being downed But um, which isn't true, but of course not. Um, in fact, I think you might have a better shot of it when it's up Rather probably maybe Because when it folds in it sort of protects itself a little bit. Um, yeah I I think that there's a lot in terms of how the battle mechanics work with these that doesn't make sense Like how it blows up when it's down instead of standing up How come the at at stop? Why don't they just stop moving once they've been harpooned and There's some there's some to them there there is. Um, well, and why do they why do they why do they attack them head on? Instead of moving around first Because they just get shot down as a result Yeah One of the snow speeders just go Straight forwards towards them Because clearly these Everyone was so sweet it gets absolutely wiped out when he goes. Well, no, we're saying why do that? You should be going around. Yeah, you have planes You could fly around attack them from above and other angles Because these at at's one of the big weaknesses is that they can only attack in front of them Yeah, and not in a very wide radius, which is actually what I would call a pretty significant design floor You think you'd have a back gunner or something? Yeah, especially if you're that high over the battlefield one of the huge advantages you have is that you could shoot At all kinds of different targets without the terrain getting in the way and you could shoot over barricades and stuff like that So you would want to have the ability to shoot from all directions They should have put a little tail on them. They should have or a turtle top or something They do that with the the clone wars ships, don't they the um, I can't remember what they're called The la at's I think they are they have like a little gunner in the back and on the sides Um, let me double check. Yeah, I suppose You could uh bombs Make it like a salt transport. Yeah, they do. Yeah, you could maybe do it like um Like this is an attempt at fix rather than what it is But it's just like they have some kind of shielding and then when you down them the shielding's broken You can hit the neck at that point That could be like a cool way to have to take them out is what I'm saying But yeah, um, you know They could have like minus shielding around them and then when it was like, you know harpoon Hit the ground that was enough to knock out the Electrics electronics. Yeah, whatever and then there they could finish off Yeah, there's there's definitely fixes for this. Um Is it a huge issue? No, it's not the battle would if the battle would have ended the exact same way Yeah, I mean it's it's literally the whole point of this is to delay them as long as you can because there's no way they're staying here Yeah, so on snow speed is more ground. Uh, you know, they're not like massive aerial Uh, uh, yeah, yeah, they're kind of more You know, not hover but they're more ground level. Um Well, I think as long as you could fly you could pretty much fly in atmosphere Obviously, there's going to be a limit depending on if they on the engines that they use I mean there is a maximum altitude for aircraft Um, based on the density of the atmosphere However, um, I think snow speeders they they would be able to fly high enough to where they could get a tactical advantage Yeah, I know I never I never got the impression that they were, uh, space.  Maybe you're right. Yeah Um, maybe that's the case. I figured he just hit his lightsaber and made a hole I don't know Um, but yeah, I now we know that has one door. Luke Skywalker to destroy AT&T We finally enter into the zero some story of nothingness and as you can probably guess I'm not gonna have much to say about it beyond the broad strokes of what does how could you I would never get that you don't have much to say. How could this be? Come on. This parody is weak Hmm Even if even if a character said hello, I'd be like, right seven pages written already Let's go down from here because I've already bitched about the empire strikes out for like 15 minutes empire strikes out It's hilarious clever boy But it damn no it didn't Well, yeah It's commonly accepted. It's like the greatest in the saga Yeah So Luke splits up from Han and Leia to go find the Jedi master that ghost Obi-Wan told him to find And rather than find someone kind open and gentle just like Obi-Wan was for Luke in the previous film We literally got a green goblin looking thing that lives in a swamp. Wow, it's subverted your expectations Well, maybe that's amazing making rex. Maybe that's the point he's making you couldn't accept getting your subverted expectations Uh sentence structure So I don't even know what my expectations are for this video No, I mean for tlj. It's like you couldn't handle mine of very low. I just like to say Yeah, because of course I'm assuming that's the point he's making here is like I wasn't ready for a green goblin teacher in the same way that tlj people couldn't accept that it wasn't the story That they wanted it was the story they needed Yeah, the difference here being that not all subversions of expectations are the same like this one makes total sense There's nothing wrong with it or logically inconsistent about it and it doesn't make the story any worse Utterly destroying your main character is just like a green puppet This one is really clever and actually teaches luke a lesson the the Ryan johnson school of subversions expectations was done purely to subvert your expectations It was a massive difference.  No, I'm gonna just change it because Oh, you have theories about raised parentage and lineage. No, I'm just gonna change it because you reasons There's no there was no logic behind it. There was a huge amount of logic with yoda Being this this Manical little being luke Thought of the Jedi knight as obi-wan Kenobi As this noble sort of being who you could see in his youth would be, you know, a handsome knight With his sword wielding away, so that's what he was which he was He absolutely was And so he thought that's what the Jedi was but no, you know, you could be this little small Bundle and still have unbelievable control of the force. It was about understanding how the force works not brute strength or brute force I mean walls not make one great a lot of the lines he has just make you go Hmm, it wasn't a gotcha Ryan johnson's were gotchas Yeah, this wasn't a gotcha. This this was a this was a lesson Again, it goes back to what we were saying earlier. Ryan johnson's subversions were all cheap Yes, they were just take whatever you were expecting and do the opposite. That's not smart Take a very nimble well-made bomber Wow, you guys a nitpick Up and is an absolute menace to luke for his own amusement I mean, I guess I understand the motivation to subvert my expectations of what a master could be But it was way too silly and wacky for me But it was an act yota. He was putting on this isn't real yota Also, the whole it wasn't real I don't feel like anybody said that about tlj where they were like, I appreciate severe my expectations But I just don't like the way that you it was always like it just didn't make any fucking sense was usually the criticism Try and point to where this doesn't make sense. Just just just you know, give me a give me a hand here 8080 To take anything seriously throw most of what we see on this one. I was gonna say I would say that Doing something like raise lineage, for example. Yeah, people like could she be a skywalker? Could she be a Kenobi? And sure, they were very obvious things that she could be Um, so if there was a clever idea Brilliant introduce it But saying that her parents were junk traders Makes her uninteresting and boring It doesn't enhance the character It doesn't make the character likable or more relatable It actually takes away from the character Because suddenly her parents being zero Is worse than her parents being a Kenobi or a skywalker So that's a version of the expectation is is is a poor one Because it doesn't it's gone gone No, so I was just gonna say it's almost like so it's star wars movie written by somebody who doesn't like star wars and doesn't like fandom Want to be antagonistic with every fucking decision he made excuse my language, but You can say antagonistic. Yeah, the antagonist is fine. It's fine. We say that Yeah, you know, not often it doesn't come out much, but you know, I have to cuss It's it's gotta benefit the story somehow Either being a great twist that you didn't see coming That actually enhances or uh, you know, somebody turning traitor who you'd never expect Ho was was always part of the empire all along, you know, just just something that would have been different But but the the snoke.  Is he um, You know Darth Sid- not Darth Sidious Darth Plagueis Is he Darth Plagueis?  They're like people saying yoda sucks, too I don't even know it's hard to connect exactly what what's being connected. You know, it's a tough one Be too silly and wacky for me to take anything seriously throughout most of what we see on this swamp planet The only part that I really enjoy from this entire sequence was when both yoda and obiwan tried to stop luke from leaving Because he wasn't ready to face fader It made me wonder if maybe luke was going to go to the dark side by the end of the film and potentially At least that would have been intriguing to me So is he doing the whole it would have been interesting for ray to go to the dark side and he's mocking that How is that worthy of mockery though? Well, to be to be honest to be fair, uh, it would have been It would have been a really interesting story for the for the sequel trilogy If they did actually set up ray at the first film It's a bit look as if she was going to become the jedi hero and then by the third film She was actually the villain As women can't be bad guys You know that that's not allowed But it's all it's got to be because of a man So a woman can only be the bad guy if the heroes also are sorry the woman can't be bad Unless the hero is also a woman. This is yeah, I think that's how it works actually honestly. Yeah But they may they may too well It would have been I think that would have been more interesting to to what we got I'm not saying that's you know how I would have planned the film You know, you get that nonsentical sequence where ray goes into the the pit Um, they she's not supposed to go to and Luke makes this comment like oh, you didn't even hold back He went straight there and what does that even mean? Don't know. It's just something that they put in And she saw a bunch of reflections of herself Yeah, because they could have they could have done the the redemption of ben solo and the descent of Ray Um, but whatever way they did it that would have been a more The latest drug on the market for this kind of thing that's how we had a granddaughter. Oh my god Ironically adds what you're discussing what you're describing Hmm, sorry. Yeah, what no, I was gonna say what your description is kind of what happens like kylo does get redeemed Um by saving ray and she then falls to the dark side by killing palpatine Which is exactly what he wanted her to do.  You can do it on the fly. No that that kind of drinking should be scary to normal people But we're used to it So it's not really what people don't know is that that's a live feed of critical drinker. You see that's just There's a tube It's a tube that fits to the back of the ball.  Uh, the settings cog Um, I would I would press it.  So at the bottom left, you've got the little a little user settings wheel by your name in your Yeah, I got it Oh, they they changed it with the last uh little update, but yeah, you just uh Click your avatar and it lets you Change your avatar and we can we could change our avatar if you can see the stream gary. We have cobwebs Where are yours for halloween? Hmm? Very cobwebs on the stream. What's the other side about get into the spirit I I'm lagging behind. I'll fix that With one week to go Yeah, you you can make it for halloween. You got it Yeah um So I guess I guess we'll continue Something new and I don't know fun plus yota mentions that there is another force user out there who might be able to help them So I thought that was pretty cool.    What are we in the gunshot sound and they're like, oh my god.  He's just like, I'm sorry. It's for the best I have to say I have to save my friends I must save the rebellion. I can't stand to have one last look at my friends Um, actually, I don't really even know these people know you. I don't even know you you yellow shades so This scene right what you've got is three destroyers trying to Circle in on the millennium falcon being flown by what we're supposed to know as the best pilot out of all the people Um, at least for the millennium falcon With chewy that's why there's a there's confusion and difficulty in capturing them I think they may go a little too far when they have the destroyers crash into each other I feel like that's something they'd be able to avoid pretty handily even if they are trying to desperately chase the millennium falcon Um, but it is supposed to be indicative of just how much han is fucking them over with all the the things he's doing I also like the pressure of Darth Vader Sure We got to get this we got to get this and they're causing the confusion and then you compare that To the idiocy that is all of tlj space chase Like I don't even know how you could compare The two it did some kind of like see they're both dumb. I'd be like, no No Um, but yeah, of course, I feel like this is a pretty blatant reference to people making fun of the space chase I capture one small ship for like half of this movie's runtime and honestly, I think that is Ridiculous, that is I don't know how that made it. I mean Through asteroid belts and Yeah, the millennium falcon does lots of fairly clever manoeuvring to to evade them again and again If you break up the scenes, we're not constantly cutting back to po being like tell us the plan Please Instead we have hard fleeting with with lair That will cut over to luke with yoda that will cut over to vader being like what the fuck? Where are they?  The chase was boring It was going nowhere.  Hold on. Just pause it for a second. What's he called? 1880 and t chat Dude, give me your address. Send me your address dm me email me.  You can watch it. You'll enjoy it You made a gift sound so if he watches them it will be a christmas miracle Oh, yeah, we got a halloween avatars nice Still waiting for for as and gary to roll theirs. I'm working on it. We'll be working on it. Yep I've got it's almost ready as just add fangs to your baby face I'm going to put a pumpkin What's that at the end of the sentence? I want to say that to people What they expect you to continue said I'm gonna put a pumpkin I Hides inside of an asteroid at one point in wild space And the empire sends out tithe fighters to drop bombs in space onto asteroids I guess when you were high on lsd, you forget that bombs can't be dropped in space, but whatever They don't look like they're dropped. They look like they're fired downwards. They're fired. They're not dropped with gravity The magnets the asteroid the asteroid has got gravity.  They're able to walk around inside it Yeah, I guess that's a good point actually there is enough gravity I presume it's a lot less than We'd get here on a normal planet, but it's enough for them to move around without floating away Um, but yeah, it's just it's so funny because that was that was blatant. You're like, oh, I know what your reference said You did it I see the bombs come out of those bombers pretty quick I Guess it's fine and on top of that the falcon was actually inside of just a big giant space form all of a sudden That lived inside of the asteroid that they were dropping bombs on in space I don't know guys.   I was waiting for qualification. I guess that's the joke Is that sometimes we we say something stupid and we don't qualify why which is a weird one because we have famously long podcasts We like explain every point.  It's a it's a fantasy creature that lives in the in the asteroid So yeah, this is a space fantasy.  Have you like why? Was he trying to say something about dropping bombs in space? Well, he was on the asteroid That has gravity Hmm. This is the thing if he doesn't qualify we can't find out But if that's the point if he's making jokes about people who don't qualify their shit, I just be like, okay, well You don't like like people who don't qualify the statements, but you can figure them out At least they've got that going for them In the clouds portion that was pretty beautiful I think it looked really nice and I thought the character of landa was actually really good Good job, billy d You know he betrays his friends and that kind of proves my point about hawn that I said way earlier in the video You can't really trust these smuggler types of people even if they flip it wasn't because he was a smuggler It had nothing to do with the fact he was a smuggler. It's because he specifically was hawn solo Um, is this a reference to how People again people trying to make like positive claims that are based on faulty info. Is that what that's what he's doing? Or is he just doing it by accident? I don't know. I don't know. I ain't got a clue. No, I don't know This is again another because this is the funny thing every time he's wrong, which is 95 of the time You don't know if it was on purpose or not Yeah, if he's like, no, you don't get it I was wrong and then like he points something out that he thinks is an actual issue and we say like, no You got that wrong. He's like, uh, hmm Okay, but mola he would have had to establish the rules for that And he hasn't So we just gotta assume He's shit and wrong Bides but as this all just turns into the empire already having sent a trap to catch them So in the end we watch our heroes escape the empire for the entire film Only for them to just get captured in the end again And i'm pretty positive that this is the last thing we're gonna see of hawn. Yeah, I don't I don't know So the issue would so is he trying to say this is like kanto bite? They were they were fleeing the empire and they were eventually caught.   Meanwhile, if you said like, well, what's the benefit in kanto bite? I'd be like, uh Okay, baby Also, yeah, that's neat There's no way your brain will be normal after being frozen.  Tell me how this works. Tell me how this carbon freezing chamber works Yeah, please go down to the like of the chemistry for us like tell us exactly how So this was the first time they tested it on a person Yeah, they didn't even know this doesn't work, but then they're like, oh, yeah, they were They were testing it to see if it would work safely on luke skywalker I don't want the emperor's prize damaged or something like that, right? Basically, yeah Yeah For even a day hence why luke and lair are probably going to end up together in the final film I will say I did laugh you think that after this Why would you say that after the sea where she says I love you? Why would you say that? She's like jk low luke is my daddy.  Oh you Then that's like that's like 40 chasing us right there But when vader said that he would be honored if they would join him at the dinner table You know before he started torturing everybody.  So it's just like uh, he's referencing red letter media he's uh, he's Referencing red letter media because that's what they called Darth vader When they were talking about uh, when they're doing their prequel, you know, the mr. Plinkett prank, uh, mr. Plinkett's prequel Uh reviews Uh, they're trying to say, you know that it wasn't meant to be vader wasn't meant to have this sort of like He wasn't space jesus. He's just a henchman really a henchman for Uh, the emperor. So he's just kind of falling into red letter media territory. Um, I would concede He's not as significant in a new hope as he is in the other two films But he's certainly more significant than henchman like I'm sure He's rocking a new hope.   No There's luke's father Reckon so, okay, so just just to be so you're saying that kylo ren and um ben solo How so how does that work then if this doesn't work for that? How does that work for the well? I'm assuming as a sequel defender. This is referencing, uh, Raise parents rape. I'll put yeah. Yeah, I mean like that's a that's a complete retcon Therefore bad and he's saying well they retcon this I should be like you can retcon whatever you want if it still makes sense And when I say retcon I just mean you retroactively change something that wasn't the way it was And then we know this from meta knowledge like they say like yep, we changed that it wasn't always that way However, there's no reason it couldn't have been that way Yep, still makes sense in universe that darth vader and you know anakin skywalker are like different parts Of a person and one can kill the other Yeah, and a lot of people tend to say that like once once the emperor dubs him Is a metaphorical death. It was the death of anakin because anakin became darth vader It was the death of the light side and the rise of the dark side Yeah, and it made sense that obi one wouldn't have told luke the full story about him initially because he wasn't ready for that level of knowledge From a certain point of view, he didn't know what a darth vader was He's he's still a farm boy. Well, that's what i'm saying Textually, I know that he knows this isn't accurate But then in relation to the the complaints of the sequel trilogy, they don't work It's like they literally tried to do the same thing but failed miserably So when he's like I was right from a certain point of view obi one's being sneaky He's like, I don't want to tell you he's your dad.  Meanwhile kylo's like I didn't lie your parents are nobody. It's like what are you? If one of them was the kid of the emperor and parents who are really important So I mean, it's just like that's just categorically wrong. There was no benefit to you doing that You just said it because I don't know. I'm gonna tell you the truth later.  She is the daughter of a clone of a palpatine Bum bum bum Parapetine, where's grandpa? Where's grandma palpatine? She's she's is she dead? Is she alive? Did he electrocute her in a fit of rage? Like what's wrong with her? She's on evil or was she good With the reverse mortgage One of the should be floating in one of the tanks next to like spear It'll recline in the tube Oh, what if it's like um, what if it's like, uh Who's uh, aren't of source and agar from batman and robin? Where his wife's like frozen or something and he has to try Yeah, yeah, so he's trying palpatine is trying to Take over the world something to save his wife who's cryogenically frozen in carbon My wife has McGregor singed you out We must discover a cure I just I just like the idea It's like you will pay the price for your life. You're so shave. What are you doing? Are you using that for Face with your friends. Come on now. I mean, I'll be right there. I'm doing some work Yes, I'm loud pal. Be so loud You want anything I want the deluxe chicken sandwich do it It all makes sense. It's not a retcon. It all lines up And now star wars is a soap opera and no longer a space adventure series And while it was pretty insane to see the lightsaber sequences having better Choreography than the first film it again all results in a zero sum for our heroes What do you mean when you say that when you say that what do you mean when you say that? And hilarious bit about I think knows what he's going on about So so this screenshot, right? Am I crazy or is it possible that the lightsaber is above his shoulder below his mask? Yes, very looks like it Because he's saying most durable neck in space like this that his shoulder isn't his neck Because he's trying to imply that the the lightsaber has gone through his shoulder Like I don't I don't know. It's weird He's wearing armor of a kind. So I don't know if has resistance to the lightsaber.  Shit Oh, okay The camera is coming back on again. Oh my god. This is Darth Vader Look at the armor around the whole neck And top of the chest It goes all this man child has these toys Vader All these horrible horrible character toys nerd, which all goes through the head which is also heavily armored Also the in the royal guard in tlj.  Um, isn't Correct me if I'm wrong. Is there one part where they like jam a sword up to the shoulders of one?  I'd have to watch it again That seems so bad. It wasn't made out of woo-doo hide like this one.  There ain't a lot of woo-doos left. All right They're like the dodo's Of this duel apparently lightsabers can cut through metal and everything else, but not Darth Vader's neck Okay, I mean he tags in with it Yeah, so bullets can go through metal, but not everything Yeah, I don't I don't know like this doesn't this doesn't quite work for me.  I'll probably see if I can do that This is clearly a very specialized suit meant only for Uh, Anakin. So it does make sense that it would be specialized for you know other utilities as well Was it ooo hide You will hide Sure, why not? Do you hide?   That's it.  It's like, what's your lightsaber made from wudu hide?  You'll be changed There's a lot of choices to be made and it's just Luke makes his choice Like the other reason is like, I don't know if vader's on the level he might just torture me I don't fucking know like it's also he is my he says he's my father like Is it true? Do I need more answers? Yeah Obi-Wan is on trumid suicide and honestly the movie just kind of ends with a bunch of people Force-scaping each other for lack of a better term because oh, there it is Oh, of course, but they're close Well, uh, so there is some precedent here being that you can contact people in the force That's something that we've gotten since the episode four So it's like is it is it a bit of a stretch that Luke can contact another force sensitive person through the force when they're close To me, I'm just like, I don't know. It doesn't seem that crazy No, but then seeing them like you're in the room I don't know what else to call it, you know, even vader's doing it Imagine just being able to pop up into somebody's thoughts like hey, what's up, dude? You want to get a pizza? I don't know. It's just a lot of things happen in this movie that are just insane So I guess the next film is just going to be Luke going to face vader again Okay to be honest You can't make this criticism the same way you can make it about tlj when tlj ends with zero plot lines to do anything with it's just like Yep I like that you this is the worst way to do it because everyone always talks about how empire ends and we're all like, oh my god I'm so ready for the story to carry on meanwhile tlj. You're like, well, that's the end of the trilogy. I guess What are they gonna do? There's a difference between where do you go and wow what's gonna happen next at the end of the last Jedi through sign You've killed everything.  Snoke gone Luke gone um The the uh resistance crushed So it was yeah, the next film was going to have to be so contrived to set something up Unfortunately Jar Jar made it even more contrived than I could possibly imagine but you'd you'd have to really kind of Back up to go forward. So he Ryan Johnson completely stalled the trilogy by what he did in in the last Jedi And this very clear Uh, you know very is a cliffhanger, but there was a very clear direction Uh where things were going hands been taken.  So we get Luke recovered. So at least Even though we didn't know how things were gonna work out. We knew where the direction was gonna go We need to get hand back We need to stop the empire Some people are like, um, you're aware this is a parody, right? It's like hence why every response we make has to be extrapolated to what kind of point you think he's making versus what the also mole parody not parody Well, that's that's what I mean There is no way to respond to videos made like this without the person being like you fell for my trap It's like, yeah, I know you think you're clever That's fine. Yeah Well, that sounds like we're just parody. Yeah, we parodied you Now everything we do has to be cloaked in like five layers of irony Kind of boring and obvious Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Lucas ran out of ideas And just makes another super weapon to go along with Luke first Vader get it because there's a second death star in the third movie And that's what everyone says about jg being bad is that he makes super weapons So really guys when you say that you're criticizing the ot The answer is it makes sense in the ot though It makes so much sense in the ot Like I don't want to get that back. I used to I used to be someone who kind of parroted that being like, yeah It's kind of it's not too cool that ended a bit But but like the more I think about it the more I'm like, I don't know I feel like that had to happen like I don't know what else the empire would want to do They would be like we've got to build this thing back. It's the thing we threatened the galaxy with Yeah, we know if we build one, they're going to come and try and destroy it. Let's make a trap out of it And it's it's really effective up until the ewoks rude everything Yep Been more ways than one Whoever will be avenged It's not the same I don't know.  You're just like we're the what? Yep, are you are you sorry? You're missing star killer base Hello It's well that yeah that too, right? This is the funny thing everyone like criticized jj for that when tfa came out Most people people mostly paused about the movie, but they were like, yeah Not not cool with the star star killer thing And then what does he do it right at the skywalk a thousand of those It's like a cartoon All the quick with star killer Like I said, the the meme now is the next film that you'll have a galaxy sized death star little little shoot out galaxies Yep No, I guess I'll give them a bit of the doubt because the original star wars was so good And who knows the next one could be just brilliant. So that's really it I don't know what else to talk about the movie just didn't do it for me These are my opinions and if you disagree with any single one of them, you are objectively wrong You're objectively wrong and a lot of them your Your references do not match up or they don't make sense Right, that's the form for his trap. That's just what he was saying about you Oh, man, uh been defeated. I should have realized it was parody This guy has this guy is playing like five-dimensional chess with us right now. It's great He is playing for every contingency That's an exception There we go. That was terrible Yeah, I'm kind of missed the first eight minutes of this by the way You are the thing is though slog How much of a nightmare you would consider me if this is what you experience whenever you see my videos I'd be like damn. I do kind of feel bad for you if this is what you're getting from what I say No, this is this that was nothing like a more That's what they seem to think it is though. He feels like this is odd point. This is like I might want to run that by someone else before you put it up on youtube, maybe Well, he's not there's like two other maybe even three of the people who've done this Like they're like, oh, I'll just you can do it to anything another person's done You can but That doesn't mean that it's going to give you the same results No, that's that's that's that's the key thing that they're missing like you could apply the same standard to everything Your results will vary. That's the point of using it as a test It let's say more more let's say you took um, a beloved film And you try to do the same thing that you do, you know, you let's say deal with the rise of skywalk it as much as you Took it from a negative when I'm not going to send negative sound for you you like tore it apart People would have plenty of at least retorts legitimate retorts Uh, to why it still worked. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a beloved film. Oh, yeah, there would definitely be a response I mean, well, dude, I got responses for all the sequel trilogy, right? Like there's people out there who love those Yeah, they're retards They don't count, you know So so, you know the you can't take something as as divisive as this and go who let's play the big bookie game Because the thing was put together terribly objectively terribly it legitimately had no plan See No empire would have been hated just as much if it came out today show Like do they think every film is actually terrible once you Comb through it to the equal degree because they might say that but there's no they don't believe it Right, so when so when critical drinker gets so on his channel And they pick a film and they just spend four hours talking about how great it is How does that work if we if it's just if we just critical about everything Oh, yeah, they don't like to Like they don't like that that's a thing they always like to be like you guys just all you do is hate It's like oh, well, I did do how long was that stream drinker was it was it three or four hours?  You talked about it for longer than it is. Are you yeah, imagine that I know That's crazy. Why would I why would I watch that instead of just watching the film idiot? I know well we must That's such a common criticism is so nuts to me. It's like what do you mean? It's yeah, it's just insane because it's like To construct a properly Formed argument about why certain elements of a film work or don't work and especially if you're going to go to scene by scene It's unavoidable that it's going to take a long time And it's going to take longer than the length of the film because you have to bring in other sources You have to explain things You know if you're covering a scene that might last a minute it could take you 10 15 20 minutes to talk about it For obvious reasons. You have to explain what's going on in that scene and how it works Well, if you think about the the hyperdrive kamikaze the Like that moment the couple of seconds like how long could you talk about that when you saw it for the first time? Oh, man You need to sit down. It's like well, you've already got a couple seconds. You better be quick Yeah, but you'd be like it was an I it was an interesting visual shot You know, it looked cool. Nope too long time's up. And then you got to actually talk about whether it was practical or not No, she destroyed the whole fleet and she committed suicide No, if you remember canonically, it's a one in a million things. She was trying to escape. She got unlucky That's canon that's jj said that's canon.   This is the same guy who's like gonna be some people have said Careful covering him because you might try and like take the streams down just because Not not a fan of criticism And uh, I was gonna say like it's only nine minutes this follow-up one But the video that that got him upset that the sword master covered do you guys want to see him explain Sword master. Yeah, I know right the I love it. Why is the throne room battle? amazing No, no, this one's real like so They're doing parody. So you can't take us down Yeah, that's a good defense. Like if you try and you can't strike us with parody Yeah, it's already Yeah All right, here goes You know what's fantastic The praetorian guard battle an eight on two fight between elite warriors. Man, we've already got the uh The the like video essay music the words that came up on screen as he said them and the animations for Everyone has animations to subscribe now. I don't know when this happened, but I've been seeing it everywhere I can't even like remember asking people to subscribe verbally Well, I at least I've always known that it was a thing I just never I don't know when this started this craze of like those people have like the bell and it rings the little animation I was like, is there a place everyone's getting these from? Or what wasn't I told about this? Do you guys have any animations for when you ask to subscribe? I don't I'm out of the loop. I'm old Yeah, I think you know my stance and I'm asking people to subscribe I want to get on my knees and beg Yeah Extremely powerful force users beyond the outstanding set design for the sequence the It looks like a gray floor I always felt it was a little odd Uh, when I it's it's like I can understand why you consider it aesthetically pleasing the red and and uh, Well, just all all of our it balanced our show, but I always felt like it's very impractical It's this enormous room like the The the the guys all the way back and you have to get I just I was just like god This is all for the look right but that was what ryan was doing with uh with snook. He was like put him in his his gold bathrobe and um making him appear the Like the idea is like our snook is so obsessed with with the look and that's why he was able to be Killed which was weird because in the first one.  Like I guess it's just Why would you want to cover up that?  You guys are picking. He clearly had a little button that when he pressed it It would move them aside. He would close them at night time when he wants to sleep Yeah You don't want that bright space to keep you up Like as the space jays is happening. He's our little nap. It's like a bright black as it's going Camera movement music the way it all ebbs and flows is worth talking about which brings us to today's video The most best fight scene of all time by every objective metric So is this parody? I can't tell so I think so that would be that's a joke. Yeah He's he's like yeah, yeah, but does this mean the whole video is a parody?  They're indistinguishable from parody Well, it wouldn't be the first time we've come across someone saying like this is all entirely subjective And then they make a statement that is just Absolutely an objective one and you're like but that was wrong. It's like first my opinion. You're like Just be clear The throw Joking aside, it's a sequence that has been on my mind since the last jedi came out This scene is climbing the ladder of favorite lightsaber battles in the entire saga. Yeah, I think it's that good Oh wait, what about the blade? Oh, hold on We have to talk about this blade thing because if i'm not mistaken This was actually the first time star wars has ever had any form of visual inconsistency Um, no, this isn't inconsistency. This is a weapon disappearing Well, I I don't mind him classifying it as a visual inconsistency I would just say like you do get that there's a difference But there's a scale for this like visual inconsistency with we're not looking at something small with this Uh, so many people will try to argue. It's like it doesn't matter. It's like it saves her life Why do you think they rubbed it out of the screen? Like it's like you gotta get rid of it. Otherwise, she's dead That's not significant though ever no There is a scene where the blade of a praetorian guard disappears Because the take that was used has a blade still in the left hand of the guard It probably was supposed to have fallen away in the take. No, he's still He's still holding his hand around it Yeah, like why would he be why would it have been thrown away if he was holding it like that And it's right. Yeah, and it would have been right at her back So like you've got yeah, you gotta get rid of it.  Shit got that Yeah, I I'm curious what what was supposed to be happening Unless he means that the the guy in the scene fucked up like he was supposed to throw it away But he just kept holding it In which case just like so yeah, I mean whoever whoever the fault's on it's on somebody because we all Probably would have been like throw it away Well, uh, some people have argued that's like that's what happened. He he drops it when he hits it back They'd have a prop which would get changed in post to be a bit more grandiose So you would know if they dropped prop or not This just surprises me that the best take was the one with the the praetorian god actor fucked up, you know You'd think they'd do multiple takes because this is kind of like a big production. It's a star wars movie Everything worked in this one take like they did something in this take that just really worked They were like, you know what?  We have to keep because this is just such a good take That must have been it a guard and raise blind contact But I guess as an editor myself that this was the overall best performance You will give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that this was just the best thing they could do That's kind of fucking sad like they let's pretend They had 10 takes to work with and they checked all the other nine and they were like, I'm sorry other nine You're just overall you're just not as good as even with the flaw of keeping the knife. This one's just better Rather Is there not a couple of times when when daisy? I think at mr. Q and she has she's supposed to duck or whatever and she has to do it The amount of cues missed throughout the whole battle are crazy Yeah Several people now have broken down this fight scene and it's funny because just as time went on more and more was spotted and then you had the um Wasn't like a professional stunt team or something did a reaction to it and they would just like shitting all over It's just like yeah, if you're if your actors are not capable of doing this kind of level of fight choreography then Just get stuntmen to do it and CGI their faces operate or something like Oh, and I want to uh, george's racks just said even if he did drop it He would still have a free hand behind it, which yeah, that's huge in a fight Yeah, you'd grab her hair yank her head back. You'd I don't know something hitter and puncher smacker sticker in a stew sticker in a stew To address what he's put on screen performance over continuity always Uh, this feels eerily close to uh emotion over logic always Yeah, like the advantage of shooting the movies you can you can do it again and again until you get continuity and performance Yeah, before that what we call talent comes in And this is what we call a full-stuck hotling Why do we have to choose one over the other? I mean because I was I'm assuming he's saying that that was the choice and they made their choice They had they had their hands were tied. They had to go with continuity or performance Oh, so they're bad at making movies.  Yes Like you've you've you've got a mistake unfortunately And I don't know why they're so afraid of just categorizing it that way We're like, yeah, so the knife just say it's a fuck-up. It's a fuck-up. Yeah It's fine. There are there little fuck-ups into all movies basically you'll survive Of daisy and at the team decided to use this performance and send the shot off for rotoscoping So that way the blade could disappear for the remainder of this shot Which if I was on the set and they said that I'd be like guys I don't know like yeah as we could do it again Like we got all the actors and I got this outfit on and we even practice. I well, maybe we've been practicing I don't know but like theoretically we've practiced this before. Let's just do another take Also, like this is a big part of the film. We could just do it again if you want in his Approximation of it. We've got other takes where the knife is like pushed out of his hand or whatever And it makes more sense. Um, I would just be like is is her acting so much worse in those takes that we can't use it really? All she has to do is just hold her mouth slightly agape and stare Absolute realism is not what is important absolute realism because that's Well, then just have Ray fly away Well, just we're doing the thing again, right? So we point out issue underneath this category and then they push your category to max and they're like, why do you? Why do you argue for absolute realism?  So how do you have a lightsaber's idiot? In regard to star wars and especially their laser sword fights. Oh, he's bringing it back He said the laser sword fight No, he's he's got what about this though Veda should be headless like well. No, I don't I'm not even sure That's hit his neck at that point Also Vader's got armor Well, but that actually seems to work like what seems to be happening in this shot is like If if Veda's neck is it's like he thinks that if it's gone past the rim of Veda's helmet It must be in his flash but that's not quite Like that's not necessarily where Veda's neck is It would be further to the left. I don't know. Do you see what I mean by like logistically? Yeah Yeah, I see what you mean. Yeah, it's really hard to spot dudes. It's one frame I like desperately try to figure out if it's even accurate If it were then these all wouldn't have passed the true fan test We'll boo. I do okay so uh That part is weird though Why did they not cut the ropes because you have to be concerned with what the other person's lightsaber is doing Yeah, they clash sabers. They don't yeah If one of them went for the rope then sure the other person would fall but you'd be dead Yeah, you get can I agree with the balcony thing Yeah, so this this thing. I've always found weird even as a kid. I found this weird I was like what is happening here? He like he like pushes him up with this true fan test and luckily it's not Hurt him in any significant way. It's only resting on him Red wedge his legs. Yeah, it's just an odd moment. It's like With I'm not even sure there's enough space for Obi-Wan's legs to like not be much just hurt there pretty much Hmm. It's a weird one You're kind of the way shift's position is really strange as well. It looks like it's done in post where he's being moved by cgi Of 20 Anyway, let's talk also. What about his congratulations? Yeah About the cinematography and the camera movement which is directly related to how this scene is all stitched together And just to be absurd Let's go through each edit in the sequence and I'm ending it where kylo tosses the vibro blade staff on the ground at the end Okay, let's go close up of ray close up of kylo close up of ray. Why are we doing this? Why yeah Our more cuts good Is he is he just describing the type of of frame? Is that it dolly of the throne room? This shot lasts for 12 describing what's going on medium close up of kylo fighting medium shot of kylo fighting Medium shot of ray b. I don't know. Why are we doing this? Yeah, what are you trying to say he's saying things that are on screen Yeah, just to fill time That's it medium shot of the guards choking ray from opposite angle medium shot of ray escaping the choke And then it dolly's back out to widen you can do this with like any scene. I don't understand. Yeah, good for you You know what a medium shot is I just get this feeling that he thinks by doing this it makes him appear clever yep Up the shot and then it follows ray throwing a fireball and hits the other side of the throne room catching Whoa, the camera followed where she threw the thing I didn't catch that till he said it. I mean I This is just groundbreaking. I don't know what to say Fire medium shot of ray medium shot of the guard who breaks his staff in two sections medium shot Why do you say that like it was so impressive? This is weird. What is he doing like these are the shots I understand what I'm seeing on the film and I'm going to repeat it to you Because I'm smart and you're not I'm just like yes. These are the shots. What is your point? Ray and her medium shot of the guard approaching ray and then their blades make contact Match cut to kylo ren b-roll shot of the guard being thrown into an energy well Medium shot of kylo ren pointing his blade close up of kylo ren's face medium shot of guard I would honestly I would skip the last day. Good now This is obnoxious if I knew where he ended this action I would just skip to it guards with camera tracking movement Close up of kylo's face why shot of kylo and the guards in the foreground and then it pans and zooms over to raise battle Was any resting that laser sword on his arm like it's armor that can deflect I like I was almost certain this scene has like weird That they use their armor for like defense, but then sometimes it just doesn't do anything at all. I don't know Someone said this might be comedy. I'm pretty sure this is real Like I'm pretty sure. Yeah, he's saying this is like a compliment to the scene We just have to wait for his qualification Close up of face why shot of kylo flourishing around the guards as he takes one of them out Why shot tracking with ray like wait, are we so Do you think he's doing this because with each of these shots? There's like a million things to comment on in terms of failed choreography, which a lot of people have done And he's he's like, yeah, but you're not appreciating the cinematography Like I'm assuming that's the direction we're going right now Correct. I'm not Well, yeah, because we're like, oh, I mean I I I just I really care that the fight makes some sense. That's that's where I'm at Fighting the guard match cut to medium shot of ray being kicked down medium shot of ray getting off the ground Wide shot of kylo ren fighting the two room. He's still going remaining guards a 15 second medium wide shot of kylo ren taking on the guards A medium wide shot of ray swing at the remaining guard Then the camera is also revolving around ray close up of kylo with the bladeon air's face Close up with ray with the bladeon air her face. There's a little wing. You guys doing all right today? Yeah, I'm doing all right. What are you doing? Yeah Going on with you Watching a video. I think I'm not sure anymore. Yeah. What's it? Uh, what's it about? So it's it's about a wide angle shot going into a medium tracking shot Which goes to a close-up of kylo's face. It then goes into a A Medium shot dropping the saber then there's a medium wide shot reverse angle It's also in times like a whenever I apparently I don't know what happened to watch together But if you change the the speed it resets the video and I'd have to go back to where we were and then I have to Do the same thing to slow it back down. So We'll only do that for special circumstances of ray slicing at the praetorian guard medium shot of ray turning to see Kylo close-up of kylo's close-up of ray throwing the saber to ben He knows like a girl pans to follow the saber close-up of ben catching the saber he keeps saying kylo and then ben he keeps Kyle ben right It totally makes sense on and then alt close-up angle of ben as the guard falls to the floor dead Finally, we have a wide shot of kylo ren standing up and he tosses the guards and they fuck vigorously keeping track That is about 39 edits Editors or it's an unsung job And not a lot of people get you don't get a lot of out of boys and stuff. So he is just dying to show We didn't have to do any of that. You have the number on screen. What was the point? Yeah, like did you just do unnecessary work to say look at all the work I did? Well, yes. Yes That's exactly it. Yes. Oh okay What ryan did with this entire idea in the sequence was to create a sense of space I guess this is it like we're about to finally find out why he said all of this 39 edits so excited ryan johnson did with this entire idea in the sequence Was to create a sense of space or lack thereof with the camera moving a sense of space or the lack thereof I guess he's referring to all of the sequins the pieces either they have a sense of space or they don't Like but here's the thing those are the only two options. It either has a sense of space or it doesn't It has a sense of space or a sense of the lack of space. Is that what he meant to say? I don't think I honestly don't think he knows what he's trying to say. Well, he's just trying to be a pretentious one I think this is desperate defense like all the tlj defenders I have to desperately try and come up with something to say to defend this scene That is the theme of this this this stream as it has been before desperate defense the what happens to you and you have to defend Stuff like this. You're just like It's about it's about the sense of space or the lack of it Huh Now of course there are a wide array of shot types to tell the story of this particular sequence But it's one of the most elegant and restrained lightsaber battles that are restrained. What what? What It's the Opposite of restrain fires people getting shredded different attacks of different directions I'm gonna call it restrained That's an interesting way to Categorize that ever while at the same time Can't set these guys seriously a calm energy that we essentially basic my favorite detail of this fight Is kylo Ren's lightsaber leaving mocks all over the ground?  Is that what you're trying to say? He's not good at fighting. So his blades constantly scraping against the ground Well, I mean that no in all fairness in all in this defense that doesn't necessarily Need mean to be the case, you know, you could have could have been a necessary for you to drag to To do whatever you need to do but wow, you got a couple of fires on the floor, dude Well, I the part that I find funny is just like that's your favorite detail Yeah, after the after the restrained fight. I like the scuff marks on the ground I just yeah, that's not what I would have picked but all right fair enough. Well, then again, I don't know what I would pick I'm doing long jump And then he go yeah, my favorite part of the long jump was the foot in the sand Lightsaber go brrr Well, you didn't like the way he went 8.6 meters in the air the way that Move from leap into talk into legs coming foot. No, I like when he's foot went in the sand I think I'm out. There is like a footprint. I like it that one He's scraping his sword against the ground like a sword master. He'd love general Grievous then, right?  Yeah Yeah With four lightsabers he was yeah That we are watching people fully perform.  Well, you literally You couldn't have written that stupider like I didn't want to tell you Nothing was saved by the edit guys Is this an elaborate anti throne room video? That's oh, that's Oh, I don't know even what what trophy award that one is. It's like the most the severe lack of self-awareness you explicitly explained that they had to save her in the edit at the beginning The irony is right.   I think it would be hilarious Well, he goes off about a restrained fight.  That's satire.  I just stole the name Johnson isn't trying to hide anything with tricky fast-paced cuts He wants us me and you to watch the whole frame I mean so first of all not even true because the amount of cuts and tight shots there are but secondly if it were true If it were all one big shot That would you be like you don't just you don't get an automatic win now It's all down to choreography. Like you have to get them all getting it right and they I'm sorry What you're filming is important Like why do you think they do cuts? It's probably because it's easier So if if I need to do six specific moves right and I can do them all One at a time or do them all six in a row, which do you think is harder for me? Like well one at a time like yep, but it won't look as impressive Oftentimes compared to a single shot and so you're like well check out my long shot. How cool is this like?  Yes And that uses very subtle cuts. This doesn't use subtle cuts. This use hard cuts and that's fine That's the way they're put together But the the soft cuts that they do in in kingsman gave it such a sense of flow that it looked like one good fellows take That means you take it should have been If you take a movie like the raid where you've clearly got all of your performers are trained to an extremely high Standard and they're capable of doing this stuff. Yeah, great. You know, it looks fantastic these people like This entire sequence was clearly way beyond what the actors were capable of delivering Even with the cuts that they did and so you've got people missing their marks The stuntmen desperately having to improvise to try and work around it Knives disappearing because people are in the wrong positions or they're holding on to the wrong weapons all of this stuff That you've you've brought about because you've tried to do something that your your performers can't do Yeah So you've in essence you've compromised You've had to compromise your scene To get something that's gonna look flashy and and visually impressive in theory You know, you've got all the lightsaber swinging around. You've got all the guards You know, you've got two people taking on eight Praetorian guards. You've got things burning It should be great in theory But then the reality is when you start to like look at it in a bit more detail all the flaws become So obvious that it just falls apart And you couldn't even hide it in the edit. Yeah, you couldn't save it though. Nothing was saved You know, I kind of like that. It's like, you know what? You're right. Nothing was safe to the edit.   Yeah, this is reacting to some Huh, yeah, you got to wait for your cue Because you can't it would be interesting to me to like try and pause it that like, okay It gets difficult and some people are going to be off cue. I'd be like that is the whole thing That's like the whole hard part. That's it.  That's fine. It's like, isn't that what our whole job is right now to get the cues right? Like why not do it until we get it, right? That's the scene. Yes So you do it until you get it spot I would concede that it's like, well, what are you saying get every single mark, right? I'd be like, well, can we get at least 90% like can we get that? I think ideally, yeah, you want to do this all perfect because you have All this money and time and expertise That you compiled together so that you could get it as good as possible And once you publish this one, something for it wasn't directing Yeah, they'd still be making it. No, man. Yeah, exactly And it'll all be one shot I like this freeze frame where the the god the left is like being pushed along by kylo I guess I'll do nothing with my Yeah, I don't want to swing it in or anything like that I have a better looking at their armor that they're wearing. You can see the problem Like their helmets are probably blocking 95% of their Oh, yeah, but you can't see their face.  You probably just have to guess when it's going to hit you Or I don't mean I don't even like the armor actually kick you because you're wearing armor The emperor's royal guard They had a much better outfit. These are these these are these guys look silly.   We didn't get dental or anything. Hey boss. We killed him. We killed both of the jet. Oh Were they in on the snooker's a clone? I don't know You have to imagine as they're striking kylo. He's like i'm paying your checks like what are you doing? Stop I'm giving you two extra days holiday a year for god's sake aid Fine fine fine Just give us dental god damn it It is a dance because you automatically begin moving into the next position without even thinking about it I call it the whoa you go into the next position without thinking about it. Like that's not ideal at all Yeah, that's bad.  Yeah, you have to remember that you are currently being filmed And I understand the idea that you learn all of your spots And you learn the timing of when you need to get to them But you can't like all of these people rely on everyone else doing their job too Otherwise you end up with what we got Half second ahead issue. I definitely notice it in every prequel film and I notice it in this film as well Fucking everyone noticed in this one. I guess Where this movie blows the rest out of the water is when it comes to how the shots are composed And how steve yedlin and ryan chose to follow the action Every individual frame is almost perfectly composed throughout the fight. None of these seem perfect. A lot of those seem off Yeah So uh perfect by the standard of the point of interest being in the intersection Um, I don't know why I'm pretty sure this probably applies to a shit ton of fights I don't know why like the idea that the center is going to be where the main action is happening It's like that's more than likely going to be in most stuff But he's just draw the eye out of the center Um, at the same time If you were to nail Uh, the rule of thirds regardless I don't see how that would pass you from having like absolute garbage cinematography. Sorry a choreography I wonder what the limit is if they were all falling over and flailing around But the the shots were still, you know of of this quality. I wonder if he let it go something We need to talk about what is being filmed Also his face there is funny. Also glib is unhappy and chat. He's saying this is some bullshit It's a good chance to see he'd be able to do a stronger response to this that I can but um Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. He's obviously drawing as much attention away from the choreography as possible That's insane I think what ryan and steve were trying to achieve with this shot an entire sequence is to make the audience Feel the ebb and flow of the fight I mean it was I mean Like I feel ebb and flow sometimes but it ain't good I mean What fight doesn't like when when filming or creating a fight scene Can you tell me which one was made with the goal of not having the audience feel anything? I don't know. I'm coming up with blanks Because I wasn't feeling much when I was watching this film Well, that's the the two characters I had a headache on one hand What who makes stuff with the goal of the audience not feeling anything and secondly, what do you say to people who feel nothing? Exactly how the characters would start on on wide shots to establish space and a sense of movement Begin tracking with our heroes as they dominate the fun heroes. Okay Interesting. Why did that guy charge into a fight without a weapon? Um, how come how come his how come his arms seem to protect him from the lightsaber? But the rest of his armor doesn't just yeah, you'd think that the chest would be really important to protect because it's gotten important bits beneath it Yeah It's like I had to preserve one aspect of me. It would probably be my my chest and yeah, a little organs Yeah, it's but that's thing once you actually stop and look at what's happening It all falls apart These are supposed to be super elite warriors trained in melee combat finding against kylo and whatever the fuck rey is So you'd think that there'd be a whole lot more going on here in terms of the little stuff and how they react and How they act to things and what they do and what their coordination would be like and it's all just a bunch of amateur nonsense This this would have been so much better if there was two of them or even for the most instead of eight So this is another problem with this fight Uh, he kylo could kill this guy right now and then he could turn around there's two more and he fights them Then he turns around there's another three. I'd be like that's how it felt with the fight. I was like, I have no idea How many there are and where they are you remember the one who disconnects is Is thing into two things to fight rey the question everyone had was where the hell were you this whole time? Like why were you just standing over there?   She is fighting a lot of people But there is a very clear and established progression of how the fight begins and how it goes to its ending Damn good fight as well Yes Much better fight scene than this Hell yeah, just get the numbers get whittled down and whittled down Just the way it's so well done On the next one was the jigsaw from um baro al Fight as things are more troublesome for our characters until we are right up in their faces at their most vulnerable Oh, he makes them let go of it with one hand and kylo didn't push off of it. That's weird Like I'm saying once everything yeah, I know it is bad. Um, yeah to me though, but like the whole He's like, what can I say to compliment this moment where character is in trouble the camera focuses on him You're like, yeah I don't understand why that's something to celebrate like it tightens up on him when he's in trouble like yep I think yeah, it's like the we've set our bar pretty low here So the camera is able to focus on points of interest. No kidding. That's that's how the movies are done when luke says no The camera is right up to him because this is an important personal moment for luke. It's like, yeah I'd love if that was just like you saw the back of luke's head You can barely hear it. Yeah, what did we say? He said go no So are you so so you're not bothered that I mean yeah Feel vulnerable as we watch it happen and it works So many variables are at play in the filming of this scene that honestly I find it exhausting to think about timing is so key when long takes our priority If you watch the documentary on the last jedi called the director and the jedi There are some really interesting bits about how much effort it took to make just this sequence I don't I fucked it up. That's what I mean.  That's Unfortunate if we were on set and they performed The scene as a practice and they they did what we saw in the movie I'd be like this is we're getting there guys.  I'd be like we're really doing a really good job I could see how you're all Really on point. We just got it. It's like you guys right here The three of you fall back when ray kicks the middle one. Uh, what's that about? Like can you help me out and if they're all like, oh, I don't know We've established that we put two points into force kick So now got extended force kick range Your kicks now have an area of effect. Yeah, it's yeah exactly instead of kicking just the first person in front of us She now kicks in a cone all Uh direction so she can pick up anything in the cone And yeah, like I I understand that people worked really hard, but People often worked really hard on lots of things and I just don't I don't know that we have that as a consistent standard That we just excuse anything going wrong as long as somebody worked hard on it No, it's not it's good and I don't deny that they they've worked hard You can tell they worked hard you you see the training videos that these actors do Regardless of what film, you know the the physical routines they go through are absolutely gruelling. They're absolutely horrendous Uh, so they can get into you know peak physical fitness to do what they do The sad fact is The fights a mess Yeah And it doesn't change that and and that's that's the ultimately the the major issue Because that's what's going to get printed and put on the screen They thought they're wearing a bunch of money and people at something would solve it You know if they would have worked this hard on I don't know the script hiring the right director Maybe having a plan for the trilogy things might have turned out better. Yeah You know, a lot of people throw a lot of wasted work at stuff You know, that's the one thing I had to learn through my working careers Like do I need to be doing this right now? Is this the most important thing? It looks I made a really good file or whatever Uh, but did it help anything? No, no, you know, you're from where I am. We got a saying All pants and no trousers. Oh, yes and By the way, people sometimes people it happened a while back and and someone just asked now Apparently you sound like Sargon to a lot of people in chat. They get confused. Oh, yeah, that a lot Really? You don't sound anywhere. No, we had Sargon and me on the same stream together talking and people still could make them Mr. I just don't get it. Just don't get it. I was like now you've heard his talk You can tell that we speak very differently People like, yeah, and now the back to bar. No, you sound like Sargon Guys pay attention to the avatars at least, you know, they're very different This guy. Yeah. Well, this guy sounds like majorly. So, you know, that's true People are just morphing into each other months of for this fight Ryan Johnson said that he loved the idea of shooting this like the fight If you for people who aren't British Who don't know what all pants and no trousers means It basically means your old mouth You know, you can talk the talk, but you can't walk the walk and this is what this is, you know, they can do as much Training they can do as much, you know work, but when it comes to the execution the execution isn't there Yeah, there's a couple of things that kind of match up without all bark. No bite sort of thing. Yeah Um, that one makes more sense than all pants and no trousers. I thought it was all nice and no trousers All pants all pants all pants and no trousers. Yeah I've genuinely never heard that one. I thought it was all mouth and no trousers. Yeah, because here pants and trousers are the same Maybe it's British.   Yeah genius and he's actually talented.  I'd be like ryan ryan ryan direct Help him out You know Forget Over some stunt double and thankfully it paid off as far as I'm concerned.  I don't understand I don't know. Why why did he have the new the annoying character with do it and then from palpatine? That was weird Uh, by the way, it is all mouth and no trousers crit But in yorkshire, we call it we say all pants and no trousers.   You're like, ah, well, you know Must be just as yorkshire man. All fish no chips I've heard that one Oh no rutabaga. We always had all pants and no trousers man Just a harder half Well, everyone's weird. All right, which means nobody's weird. It's like stowell's films. They're all bad, right? No It was a harder path than a more familiar and perhaps easier route of using doubles clever editing cgi to make a c Clever editing. We already know I did. I already know I don't know if I'd call that clever Yeah, remove the word clever. We already know that we he he he saved rey in the edit with cgi What are you talking about? Like you see he went the hard way. He didn't use body doubles. He didn't use cgi. It's like fistful You don't even know that the folder is true And secondly, he definitely did the second one Oh, the easy thing would have been to just redo it again and practice and practice and get it to be really good That would have been the easy thing and the way the difficult thing is to cgi it out of the film The way you keep morale up is saying guys we're doing something here That's going to be incredible like this is once in a life Like as soon as we get it we get it forever So just yeah, we can do this. You know how they still talk about those old star wars movies and it's been cajillion years You know how they still talk about citizen kane will guess what that's going to be us I'll never talk about this Oh, they'll they'll talk about this movie ryan. I just like He gave that speech that an hour later. He looked at his watch.   This will be good enough Like I don't know how many people are watching this I mean, there's a lot of people staring at screens going. Yeah. Whoa Which is why it does kind of baffle me that we ended up with what we do.  You see that? He says gary. Oh, yeah, gary. Yeah All right. Yeah. Yeah.   Why didn't you tell us any of them? There is so much to learn by watching the battle sequence I completely oh, yeah, we could all profit from a bad example. That is absolutely. Yep. I mean, that's what the film's about, right? Yeah, it's about learning from failure Which ryan ryan did not embrace the the theme of his movie No, he did not He embraced the fist portion like he embraced the failure without the learning He's like don't be like me Don't he went all the way Beyond the detriment of a disappearing blade or the sentiments of some random stuntman. This scene is a demonstration on how to make some man Sentiments also Why should we believe your sentiments anymore? Like why should we take more from your sentiments than a stuntman sentiments on a stunt related scene? Who's where the presentation of evidence and information?  What was simple about this fight by your account? This is the opposite of simple.   It will never release you from its icy grasp I mean Like why would anyone be compelled by what he said in this video? I don't understand like well Yeah, what's the there was never the convincing part Figure out They did the shots they did and why they moved and ended up in areas They did as the fight went on if you want to learn how music cues in bits of action No Study this scene you keep saying that what's important is that this what's important Is this scene creates a sense of space or not? It's simple and very complicated It's Chat how much have you learned today? I'm just gonna wrap I'm just gonna ramble on for a bit to wrap this up I landed there's 39 cuts in this scene. Yeah, that was that was the most instructive part of it So if your scene doesn't have 39 cuts, you're doing it wrong Yeah, at least we'll remember that now from now on if ever you're on the streets and someone's like Hey, how many cuts were there in that in that throne room fight? You'd be like about 39 I mean like slices is like no no no like cuts editing wise could be a question, you know, you could be in some pub and just like in Look at that Jedi shite film How many cuts were there in the fight scene? It's like a trivia thing. Yeah Generally though fight scenes are normally praised because they don't have a lot of cuts and they're single takes where you can follow the action So if I was if I was this clown and I was going to try and convince people That this fight was really good because of all the fucking cuts You're kind of going against the grain of general, you know generally accepted knowledge on these fights So you need to really convince me that more cuts are better and not the opposite is true If there are more cuts, you should be nailing those parts You can restart all the exactly so many earlier checkpoints essentially So there's no there's no actual excuse for missing your marks And there's no more to the point I because I don't really want to blame like daisy ridley and stuff It's ryan johnson's fault Because he's the director that accepted it Well, yeah, you would have told them they'd done the job and they'd be like cool Cut great print move on Bad singing lunch I'll end this video with my own little nitpick for the entire sequence because after all I do have one criticism that I would have definitely brought up in the editing room Had I been an editor for the last shed I I would have increased the speed of the fight ever so slightly To get around the visual dancingness of a very rehearsed fight sequence I have a little example prepared right here kind of which I sped up in an extremely cheap way and this is It's Whoa, you've got this this feels about right for me. This is subjective as if to imply there are such arguments that are not subjective Just to get this but that's really it this entire also what a what a crazy change He's gonna turn up the speed of the fight All right, calm down Throne room scene is ryan johnson and steve yedlin's little masterpiece But it wouldn't have been as good as it was had adam driver and daisy ridley not performed everything We saw in front of the camera and that about does it for today's video.  They're acting offscreen was stellar. You could hear it Actually daisy's was There might have been some improvement and suddenly cue the distant I can still hear him acting offscreen And if you can't leave your comments below on how this video would have been better We've sped up a whole video of comments. Mr. AT-AT chat. I'm sure you're happy about that Yeah, I'm sure you'll be thrilled to see all the comments. What did you like about it? You can finally tweet about how we've covered you Yeah, I did not lie this time. Yeah Now you could truthfully tweet um hooray Yeah, that's that's two videos from AT-AT chat one trying to own those sequel haters and the other trying to prop up A very unfortunate and damaged teen from tlj. I know I shouldn't say it like that It's like which one you talking about more or it's like, I know I know All of them, but yeah, it's uh, yeah, that's That's that uh, good job AT-AT.  Good job. Thanks for the material I feel that was that was a great Um, truly he was all pants and no trousers. Yes An old mouth and no chips Um, what do you think all cabbages? No, it's good to see embracing Yorkshire that What do you think of the crazy idea rags are doing like with with this lot we got here Maybe doing doing one round of one of those games I'm fine with that I feel like they could get a lot of fun out of it.  So we'll uh, I would I would have dragged you on to there, but I don't want to interrupt you but yeah, um, you know The game we had a look at last week. I think it is some It's rather amusing and I wouldn't mind seeing uh, seeing you guys jump into it You don't have to buy it. It's literally in your browser. You don't have to do anything um, and you probably haven't heard of it because it's quite new but Uh, how do you feel about that? Sure Let's do it. Oh my god Rags, which ones you reckon the the drawing one or the talking one? 39 cups. I kind of like the drawing one All right, and I'm going to grab a sixth player just so that we got a full full set Um, but yeah, we'll we'll we'll as normal go to a Superchats after after we just do a round of this. Oh, no, there's an update. Please don't be large 50 megabytes. All right, I'm gonna drop a frame or two and download in this but don't don't worry guys.  I said hi. I didn't say hi back. I am offended Well, someone was talking.  I mean I was about to go to bed with matt tire And then once again e-fap grabs me back into its death into his right left Up down wings right left up down wings Yes Oh, yeah, I'll I'll get you folks in a sec. I've never actually had gaming set up on my normal E-fap format you see so I'm all very I'm very confused right now. I'm scared Maybe I'll pop that there for a second Go on have a chat about something while I figure this out.  I I would have been If that if I would have made that video if that video is a product of my work I'd be like I would be so I would be so ashamed Oh my goodness What a terrible video that did nothing to convince anybody of anything that asserted things without any level of evidence That made contradictory statements that didn't even understand what a good proper parody or satire was It didn't even understand what they were parodying It's just big L's all around. Yeah This this guy needs to stop taking a rotational position With these sort of things because that it doesn't work. He can't support his arguments at all So if he wants to talk about this scene if you like this scene, that's his prerogative He's fine to do so make a video on why you like it explain why you like it You know, it doesn't doesn't need to be anything more than that But to try and say oh, it's a great thing because it's so simple even though it's got 39 cuts And yet it's so serene yet it's in chaotic yet. It's so distant and contribute yourself all over the place because he thinks he's in constant um War or debate with people who don't like it. Just just focus on the positive aspects for yourself Yeah, yeah, he's the last person who cares about star wars or at least the disney's version of it I I don't know why people are still defending the movie so many fans of it out there. They can't wait for the next installment What's gonna happen to ray? Yeah, I really can Do the trailer with with like Ray her adventure is only just beginning if we were like All right, so here is your room code. I don't want it That's a German word Once you're all in I will then Well, we can start I'll let the chat see the code Can it even be funny without being drunk? I don't know that works. It's not too late to be drunk I I I was very drunk yesterday. I don't want to drink being hung over is like being drunk, right? I mean I'm not hung over anymore. I just don't want to drink again So the the crash course of what you do in this game is that uh, you Will be told to draw something in the browser with your mouse And it'll have to like sort of kind of match up with a category You'll finish your drawing and then the next sort of thing will be you'll be shown someone's drawing to represent Their category and you have to draw something that would beat it in a fight Yeah Too busy picking out my avatar Well drawings are going to be the height of shittiness by the way, because I'm just using the touchpad on my on my laptop Oh, all right So you know it's going to be good so Yeah, while it's it's doing its thing, so you gotta Yeah, so you'll get a timer about One minute 20 seconds and you just have to draw a champion and that means just something that can Fight against something else and other players will be drawing theirs And then the second round will be you'll see what someone is drawing and you have to design like a champion to beat them in a fight In this first step, the tryers will be prompted to draw and nail a particular type of chest Oh, yeah, I mean we're all drawn with massive best probably all right here you go two minutes Okay Also chat if you're new to this shit, it's going to be two minutes of listening to us concentrate while we make incredible drawings for you You were raised up Yeah, this is the this is the the farthest tree The farthest tree Oh, yes Nice You got one minute 15 seconds Oh my god Pressure. Yeah, you can change your color How big you want the brush and you can undo if you make a mistake 40 seconds I'm not gonna be able to color anything Oh no, you've got to name your champion as well. Oh, yeah, it'll force you to name your champion in the last 10 seconds If you don't do it yourself. Oh, yeah. All right 20 seconds No 10 seconds nine eight make sure you hit submit before the time runs out six five four three two one It's the thing All right, so next round you're gonna be shown on your browser someone's champion and you're gonna have to draw something that can beat it Oh, do I really have to do this?  There's a weird one. It doesn't work quite like that if you choose the big brush It's sort of kind of does that also you got 35 seconds You're getting a race.  It's all left Gary. It's all left. Oh, well you can undo. Yeah, don't worry. It's first time Oh That's not gonna can't it's not gonna do anything 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Oh 30 second delay almost today Oh, yeah, you're gonna have to get the stream up to be able to see the oh well I think you actually see them on your browser anyway. We've got I already forgot Fished fish to watch this is a submanator Oh my god Fish And then everyone votes who you think wins this fight Fish twat seems to have won He's got a rocket I assume that's a rocket Oh, yeah If you want to vote chat you go to jackbox.tv and then use the code underneath it on the screen to get in I can't see anything. So maybe oh, there it is. Okay.  He's so into it. Look at him. Yeah Hand blade has also too rough feet Oh no who wins the farty boy versus the plug Oh I know I had to start over I drew that plug in like five seconds, okay The other way that would have been great. Oh, you'll plug one Oh It's because I flipped the character in the fight so I exposed my Party boys Jimmy gunhead bobbington Man john is the crowd favorite. I mean john's pretty great. I feel like I could I could get a beer with john Jimmy gunhead bobbington looks like a duck Anti-robot water bucket Oh man, duke was defeated. Yes Oh fratality He was uh born with a clubfoot He was assembled with a club We need another foot we get going to the spare parts bin skulls all the dead versus immortal Ian When unstoppable force meets an immovable All right, so Now we'll be doing it again But uh on the next fight You'll be able to tag in somebody if you think they can beat the champion better than the one you have Oh my god, so when do we start the next? Oh start drawing now One minute and 26 seconds. I want more time We all do you see we're all artists at heart One minute 40 seconds Oh my god So unfair have not made me masterpiece 30 seconds 20 seconds 10 seconds five seconds One minute and 10 seconds 55 seconds and yeah, this one's good because um One person buying this game means everyone can play it Yeah It's the thing now that we've got a whole set of new champions we can bring in our old ones if we have a chance to Is there a link so the way to get in is to go to jackbox.tv and then type your name in and use the um The code underneath the s alz And uh, you'll be able to vote on the fight 17 seconds 15 13 10 Eight seven. Oh there you go. All right. Here we go It's the second half, which means it's time for the tag teams each match up willing Yeah, um, so when it's your champion you can sub in your old dude Am I supposed to be seeing something in my browser other than tips and tricks I see it before you guys Do I keep in stank you long There's a close battle rags, but you won fair and square Do you have a riser? Oh bad I can't miss dying in the toilet feeling you the paper would also apply to Good job, Peter. Thanks Here's our next matchup You you know Man, I don't know who wins this. I don't even oh, I don't even know the horny jail duck. This is the horticorn The champion of k-pop fans That's definitely unit horny. You know horny comes out on top The county too The Only inch out Benjamin go unit horny The biggest fan The regular size You've even got the derby to helmet on him His arms are in there somewhere whether they got swallowed up by his body Like there's a skeleton in there somewhere the champion of living under a bridge You look at 80 chats just gonna dominate this fight if they're running for that championship If you haven't seen anybody swapping them out I can't You can't it just says champed up on my browser. Oh, well, I gotta click on it. That's why I can't ATAT versus AT&T There's an important distinction AT&T wins Champion of tinsel town Hahaha I don't know who does actually win this Ryan's head versus Ryan's Dude the guy just said talk about character assassination like oh perfect timing dude Ryan's head one he's just more powerful Too too much roadness.  Okay folks Time for results who won who came up with the funniest joins it was as Oh, nice job Well done, dude Second mubishly third rags fourth carry fifth drinker six Damn as tripled your points drinker, I know I'll bring my mouse next time as I can draw properly Um, you guys want to go again? Which one was the the winning shirt shirt champion? I just won $33,000 Yes I need that money I feel like the regular size means man, what point did you want next? I like the um the hand shield versus knife hands dude at all Easy You'd think mr. Successful youtuber you'd have a mouse, you know Yeah, he's german and he has a mouse So he calls it a mosque Sure, let's go with that. All right, let's let we'll do a round two. I I didn't hear any any push back on us Oh, yeah, let's do round two Everyone able to draw. I hope we're all good. Yeah, I'm just not sure. I understand what he's asking me for here Um, right. Well, it probably says the champion of something, right? Yeah, so yeah Okay, don't worry about you don't actually have to follow the title if you can, you know It's all good. You have 90 seconds. I'm glad I got this beat in the background so chat. Don't fall asleep I guess yeah, it's a decent one 44 seconds 30 seconds That's some weird lag on my browser and it deleted everything. So it's a draw something really bad really quickly Five seconds four three two one at a time The trainers are now moving on to a challenger These characters will be the underdogs because they're creators All right Uh 90 seconds 45 seconds 20 seconds 12 seconds six five four three two one Yeah, I don't know I lost it God The mojo's gone.    Why does one of his feet Maybe he's only got one shoe on that's what that represents Chattlington looks sexy face He did He's the champion of the midlife crisis the crisis and I was like, I don't know He's definitely dsp He does look sort of like him Got 155 113 60 seconds 45 seconds 35 20 seconds 15 seconds nine eight seven six five Three two one And draw your combatants. Well, I really don't want to get your channel Yeah, I'm sure you'll be fine one minute 40 70 seconds 55 seconds 30 seconds 18 15 10 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 I like those some of you guys really do just leave it to the last second to get that quality in there I got the countdown My stomach needs to recover from the laughing What does this have to do with heists? I guess Chad McBrain would have a better height Oh now they're ready for politicians like political race.  I'm gonna vote for him I don't know. I like him short and stout I feel like the pillman's seen a lot of things, you know, he knows us up He doesn't have any eyes anymore. Yeah, he's he saw so much You know Why would they make a category of nudist club?  Oh, no. Oh my god. What does this mean for the youtube? Is it over champion of the zoom? Oh god fish twat's back. Oh, no There's a fish twat from the first game Yeah, yeah, they keep you like all of them. Yeah, I'm getting all my options as well. Yeah, that's cool Booz censorship No for the first time in your life vote for censorship Come on china, do you work And anti pickle man, how did I win that? I don't know how did I win that? You don't know a chat.  I don't even know what I'm fighting against I'm still waiting to The players tag out Howdy goes No one boy you can't lose champion of Thanksgiving dinner Oh Well, that's why he's so upset.  How does that work? Did you guys get it? It's only natural Yeah, do you want to do one round of that other game rags, which I reckon Fine with me the other one is um You basically have to run a fake sort of powerpoint presentation It lasts about like four three four minutes But the idea is that you have to talk about whatever someone puts on screen for you and you have to try and make it make sense You have an assistant that puts up pictures and tags Hopefully it puts like me or rags or metal first so that you guys can see what actually happens, but the idea is Your prompts on your screen and you'll uh, you just have to talk as if you're trying to make a point No matter what prompt you get So now you need to refresh your uh, your thing so that a room code option comes up again And I'll do your writing What I might need to do is probably drop out. Um before we go to the next round unless you need Do we need to a certain number of players to make it work? Well, um, this one it won't take long You only need your voice for this. You don't actually need uh Anything else? Okay, it literally lasts like each round is like 10 minutes of 15 sort of thing Oh, okay. Cool. He'll be nice and quick. Is it just the same room code? Yeah, uh, it's a new one and it is that Jump in people I see that you're all in Yeah, pick whoever you want to look like it's up to you So like I said, you'll uh You'll you'll have a talk it might be like you need to talk about um Why people should buy electric cars or something like that And then you'll start talking about it and you'll see prompts on your screen You have to involve it in your talk at all costs And then the audience will judge whether or not you did a good job So audience uh go to jackbox.com and then type in hh fy in the room code And we're the most so now uh, you're gonna write an example sort of talk and this could end up with someone else having to do this talk What I've just done have I fucked somebody up by doing what I've done maybe potentially Okay Also some things they say like oh you can't say this but there's some things you put in there. You're like wow that worked Okay, fine Yeah, might have might have actually uh might be too logical What if I told you that not all slurs are created equal Uh 20 more seconds to write your uh answers Nearly there drinker and gary Yeah, yeah, yeah, four three two There you go. All right. Like I said, I hope it puts one of the people who've done this before first Oh you gotta pick a title on that They're all pretty funny All right, and there you can like upvote people as they talk or downvote them I've got I'm doing I'm doing the first talk and drinker's gonna be my assistant So drinker you'll get prompts to choose from to change my talk With the series of slides Okay When you see a text slide read that text out loud as part of your talk Okay, if you have this dream up you'll you'll be sure to see everything goes Just see words until something makes All right, then here we go Hello, my name is muesli and my talk is about The hidden life of schlonglom So when he was young schlonglom would collect lots of different dolls But the scary sort of thing about it was that he would Not torture them because they're not alive but break them apart Do all kinds of things this was disturbing to schlonglom's parents But here's the positive thing about this He he was like a farmer so yes He would break apart dolls and fuck with all kinds of things in the house But ultimately he was growing food plants All kinds of things aesthetically a gorgeous place to live and he provided food to the locals which I think is invaluable And um as much as people don't know about this and they may be shocked by the whole doll thing I'd say the the the food aspect really does raise him above others So how can I make this about me? Well potatoes as I said would be one of the main things he grew Staving off death would be like the ultimate goal of schlonglom and I think that inspired myself and many others Keep well fed Make sure you uh, you make it through life You know, you don't want to be looking around every corner of that reaper coming for you And one of the main ways to do that is to stay nourished count your calories Stay on a well well-based diet, you know do some running around a bit And uh, yeah, I'd say that's that's the answer to that. So thank you So how many times people hit the button? That was good. I feel like I've gone to no schlonglom very well. Yeah. What skulls or the lord of death. Yeah All right, that's a good example you'll all have to do this Talking live in front of a bunch of people, I know right about the speech or maybe a quote you think you remember Oh, yeah, you can write just something about the the talk. I did I guess it comes up if uh, the end I think All right as you're up and gary will be assisting you Look gary make sure you choose from your uh, your options you get on your your browser thing Oh, I'm so nervous. Okay I'm gonna click begin speech. Okay Hello, my name is az and my talk is It's not easy being half human and half Brie Larson I find that maths is very difficult because when I start to concentrate I started going to like that's why it's because the Brie side takes like over and stuff and she's not exactly like, you know Interested in maths and things because it's like maybe some stuff And this is where I would have to live Which is in a farm Uh, because I believe the animalistic side of brie Uh, just make you want to go and feed the cowsies and then maybe let the cowsies take the milk And then maybe some people can take the milk Because I got the puppies because I'm the breezy Going back to the half human side In many ways, I'm just like everyone else For instance, I do a regular job. I go to school I'm also into dinosaur dressing up and I teach the little children What it means to be a Reptile from billion years ago I know brie's just like, oh my god, is there something like ecstasy wingsies and stuff because they think they're my practice and things Thank you very much What a difficult life you lead Yeah, it must be annoying Stop, it's not easy Yeah, I think you'll be able to rate garries and assistance Oh boy like a mexican rapist, man Why is it gotta be mexican, man? All right rags is up and he's assisted by as Oh boy. Oh my goodness Here we go. Alrighty. Here we go. All right Hello, my name is rags and my talk is The subtle art of pubic hair That's right as many of us know some of us more than others Uh seduction comes in many stages Um, oh am I doing both here? Oh, uh I guess I'm I'm I'm both typing and sliding and speaking. Oh, you can if you want to do the typing's optional Oh, okay. All right. All right. I got you. So this is my slide. All right As many of you know, um getting people into the bedroom is often considered the difficult part However, when they get home and see that you're not just a wookie in the streets But also a wookie in the sheets. They'll want to fly away to a galaxy far far away So ask yourself one question Much like a gnome Maintains his garden And watches over all of the growing things. So too, should you make sure that your Uh Vile jungle down below can instead be a pleasurable garden of Eden Knowing that I want you to picture this It's very important that Robin Hood and his merry men Are well situated down in Sherwood forest much like an office desk desk toy Um Would be structured and organized people like order people enjoy structure And if you don't organize and structure your pubic hair, you'll look like a mess You'll look disorganized And irresponsible So thank you for coming to my TED talk on the subtle art of pubic hair and what it can do for you Thank you Once you brought the gnome in I was convinced Let's don't get imagery there Don't forget the comment card Once you um Finish your comment just hit enter and then we're all uh moving on. It's Moodle helped by me Oh, I have to click the thing. All right, uh We can speech. Hello. My name is Moodle and my talk is I never knew love Until I found crack Most people say crack is deadly, but you know That's just uh, it's just your opinion and that's subjective because death is subjective obviously So every story is a villain In this tale it's this Chairs white chairs this Is the first time I took her I took crack flying chairs everywhere I don't I'll make it uh, no to flying chairs. So everybody understands, uh, maybe even versatile verbs Whatever the word I just said the right words because I'm tired Yeah, flying chairs they everywhere they're trying to hit you you're dodging left and right Hitting your head on the door, uh, but in an ideal world we could have this A mask the skies are addiction because this is really It's it's uh, it's it's a difficult topic.  I'm trying to get people on cracks now really Try crack. It's really good You can't believe this anti-crack paradigm. All right Have you ever seen someone taking crack it was sad? I don't think so Someone shed road sitting down gives you hemorrhoids crack helps you always stand What would the chair start flying though? I don't know Gary assisted by metal Okay, so uh All right, I'll just go if I screw it up. I screw it up. Here we go Hello, my name is Gary and my talk is Hey nerds.  Uh, so what you need to do do I need to type in this picture? Okay, sorry.   I just want to write by that By the way, if you don't uh, what you can also do is anybody who's trying to cyber rape you You can just cut off their uh, wieners and roast them. There you go. There you go.  I love the idea that someone's skipping through their own presentation.   Damn it Yeah, I'm also who's who's not been in the system Yeah, um I think I'm the last one actually Drinker with rags in the system Boy, all right, wait for I've got a good feeling about this rags Well that too. Hello, my name is drinker and night talk is Seriously, let's so move to titty island We can all use a few more teddies in our lives and if you've got an entire island That's populated by them. Well, what more can you ask for really? The other thing that I'm really passionate about and that I believe exists in large quantities on this island is sushi Because sushi isn't important When you're when you're partaking of the titty, you've got to balance it out with a good bit of protein intake And what better way is there than sushi? also The next thing that blew my mind was a graph Depicting the shocking decline in global banana numbers This is something that the island can also help out with because not only is it heavily populated with tiddies And that there's large quantities of sushi there, but there's hidden stores of the bananas In huge amounts, which I believe can redress the global imbalance of banana numbers and tiddy numbers So What can be done about this? well When life gives you lemons You tell life to fuck right off And I think that's something we've learned both from titty island and from this presentation I have been the drinker and I thank you Dude, I'm going to titty island Very good. I'm moving out tomorrow. Yeah I I tried to I tried to find the most suggestive picture of sushi I possibly could You were an excellent assistant rags. I'm gonna give you good marks. Yeah, I really think you've sold a lot of people on tiddy island Turns out there's actually a lot of fruits on tiddy island Who knew? Four seconds to finish your comment. Oh rags is the winner. Oh my god. I came last. I'm so sorry I'm going to give out a funny and unique name. We're just name it after yourself. I don't care Oh I was I was going for the idea that like the banana was like a phallus and eventually over time the amount of bananas on tiddy island would decrease You had more time to think that through than I did Clear That's just displaying a catch up on our on our chats our talk Pubicare is important Very potato I never knew love until I found crack at the image is a graveyard It made me so glad to never go here.  Yeah, which uh, which do you prefer out of the two? Uh, I like them both. Yeah, I like them both a little bit more pretty good Um, pretty good surprising how uh, how much fun they are for how simple they are Yeah I think that's often the key.  No, I'd be good to come in again for that. That was that was good Yeah, um before you go if you want to you want to plug your channel Say it. Oh go on then. So I'm the critical drinker and I review movies and tv shows And I usually get drunk and random stuff But occasionally I try to be positive and fly off to titty island Never sober. Yeah. Yeah, exactly titties are more fun when you're drunk as well So that's what I do and uh, yeah, I guess, um, we'll catch up next week. Um, if we're doing a stream Yeah, for sure, man, I'll see you there. Talk about the invisible man Who hangs out in rags his bathroom? I'll get him one of these days. One of these days. I'll make sure All right, cool guys.  Well, I mean, we could do one more of that game before I go to super chats out of the fact that we're gonna run out of time Eventually, but I don't know is ever would ever will be interested to maybe do another round of that or We could if you'd like absolutely.  I'm gonna just join it I've already started a round. I know Yeah, all right chat. This is the last round. Okay Can't just play games all day.  Uh Oh, did he not exit? Uh-oh Oh, no Uh, I don't know if it's worth restarting. We might do it depends on what it does I mean, yes, uh Do a presentation at some point True, we probably will just re remake it once rags is back actually So save your ideas folks. We're gonna have to remake it. Good one. Oh, yeah I yeah I am so sorry. Yeah, it's okay. We we play a different jack box game every once in a while and when this one came out We were just like, please have at least one good game in it. And we were like, oh my god, several of them are good All right. Oh, I got says disconnected. Yeah, we uh I thought drinker would sort of cross off the browser and leave but um, I guess he's it was keeping him in so I'm gonna have to remake the lobby There's your encode lads Dory chat will get you lads lads in as well Well, I want to be the very best I'm gonna be that One bottle dream. All right, it is five months. Everybody's ready Alrighty Now you can join chats. You can get your votes in got a jack box dot tv and then use the room code on screen First you're going to craft some games Time to craft your funny memes guys. Go on Finish the three speech titles you've been given fill in the blanks with something interesting the weirder the better My bad one There's more than one 20 seconds more to write your funnies Already did it. Wow. Look at you overachiever I Was so very rude Whatever Yes, the room code is wxjp Get in ask him out now pick one of the titles that has been sent to your device This is the game's having the most fun with at the moment the simplistic ones All guys and Among us and these two tonight. They've been these is the most fun of adding years with video games It's like the the fun comes from the players rather than the game almost Yes The game is a simple three seconds two one hurry Rags is up.  Okay, I don't know. I might oh, okay I guess one of us might have to double up get ready.  My name is rags and my talk is a healthy relationship gives you the secret ability to cheat That's right So Navigating a relationship is like playing chess where obviously you might think that the king is the most important piece But really we all know it's the queen and once you lose the queen things can go to ship really quickly But how was I supposed to know this whole time? I was falling in love with A lot of the times relationships are not quite as cut and dry as Signage that you might find wandering around with very clear rules and clear boundaries that are established Please keep off the grass seems simple enough But a relationship isn't like that Sometimes you know that you're being prodded to do some unorthodox things Like maybe see some of those other queens Everybody must do their part. So here's something you can do Buns Bund everywhere Some of them are presented to you like a gift and sometimes she doesn't need to know that After all what your queen doesn't know won't hurt your queen But there's a lot of other queens out there with their buns and they need some tending to Don't deny your natural urges Thank you. Isn't that just a loaf of bread? How's that bun? You know what it's not really important. It's more metaphorical It's shaped like a bun.   Oh, I like that. That was good. That was very good I like that. I like some of these pictures just having to go with it Or just a general impression Metal is speaking with Anna's assistant Oh Oh, okay. Here we go. Hello. My name is Moodle and my talk is How to find love while you Forgot I choose this. How to find love while up to your neck in movie bop Wow We're trying to find love, but uh, you're up to the night with movie bob.    I'm just trying to find love Thank you Who's a love story?  I'm speaking of a rag assistant. Good luck rags Hello, good luck to me. Well, I mean you got to provide me the right slides, you know Hello, my name is mutually and my talk is Where have all the testicles gone? The answer may surprise you You see There's a simple answer to this question. You've all been thinking it What takes out a testicle faster than any device made by humanity and the answer is the scissors One snip both balls flopping right off But really I would say the bigger question is why is this happening? Who is behind the scissors? Look, here's something you probably haven't thought of Animals Right, not humans animals. They're the ones. We're really influencing the world Have you seen the happening?   Oh, I'm so defenseless. Put me in a sack. Don't believe their lies The more you cuddle up to these Disgusting creatures the more balls we lose the more snips take place This is just a warning. Think about it. Thank you Can't Spade and neuter today what When I saw the image I was like, yeah, I guess without balls it'll be hard to get pussy in the sack Figured that first one I one of the first image to set the tone for the rest Of the I mean you made it easy for me rags. You just lied me right up. Yep.     Make sweet love like an animal on the prairie vigorously Figurously having sex over and over again never having a conversation.  Thank you Is there one way we can perceive it? Two animals I am so far behind I'm getting these way late It's just like even funny when he eventually see the picture Uh Another round with a pair of queer cats You know the whole notes and quotes thing we just skip it like it The game part is way better than their weird awards part I don't know why it's been so long. I don't know why there's not two rounds for this You think there would be you know, I feel like given I feel like given Brie Larson the dusty ovary award is worth All right as a speaker and I will be assisting Oh no Here we go. Hello. My name is az and my talk is Frank is trying to kill you I would like to err on the side of caution Recently of course with the coof hitting the world It's been a pretty bleak place and no more bleak than in your local nursing home where we locked them up to die However, there is one person in there that constantly is alive and that is Frank But I was unprepared for this shocking twist You see Frank Like to dress up as little red riding hood And he would go out of a night and skip down the street hoping some wolf Would come along and pray on him Alas It was the other way around As this little red riding hood in wolf's clothing was praying on the sheep And who do you call to fix this issue?  I'm tired. I have to give someone the pooch-cooch award Who gets the award it's going to take 20 minutes until I find out but Bottom with my frank, I feel like my diabetes sorry did not get enough love I'm so How to score it a little higher Now it could be it can be a tough game. I think it's eight players max. So If we ever get that many it could be interesting Competing that many stories Frank is trying to kill you the picture is the doll I know Better than him better Choose your your awards We're all the testicles gone One of these days we'll have a nice clean game Diabetes award that goes to to frank is trying to kill you The anal award that's gotta go to as right.  I think especially the winner As you are the winner What no the the trophies give you like a certain amount of points.   Oh anal. Maybe I don't know. There was two. Okay. It's hard to keep track But yeah, I uh I'm assuming if metal wants to drop out then we'll probably stop there because I don't know how well these games work with full players But fun as hell, you know Yes, that's was it was very funny Um, I'm really glad they made it. It's good shit Yeah, that's a good one And I think that you know from now on they probably they used to make games that only worked when you were locally Together sometimes and then one of the ones that would like work online But nowadays I think all of them have to be ones that can work online It makes more sense, right?  Look in a couple of minutes. I'll just Chill out for a couple of minutes. I guess already then. Well, I'm gonna start reading the old superchats Um, obviously this is a a natural break if anybody would like to jump out as uh, you're prerogative, of course I'll I'll stick around for a while. Um, just go for a quick wee though. Mm-hmm Yeah, I'm gonna hold on to my wee wee as long as I can I mean I've had some of those days If they come in for the testicles, it's probably a good good shout to just hold on to all of it, you know Make sure no one's coming after it Especially if you own an animal who knows I don't know Yeah, um, I think if ever we you know close out an efap in terms of like the video we're covering If we've got enough people I feel like we should just jump into those games. They're so good And it would be interesting to play it with uh different people and they don't have to have the game, you know It just ticks all the boxes I'm gonna assume the silence is approval I was just getting some water. I approve. I was just about to take off to go, uh Leave a deposit Just loading them up, of course chat, uh, we've got efaps 105 and 103 to catch up with rags And I we're going to stream uh resnil5 yesterday to try and catch up on them, but we're thinking maybe to do that tomorrow Uh If provided we're free, but what we'll do is obviously play the game and then try and run through them and I'll um I'll pop it in the title to make sure We go and dump it today I'm pretty as far as I know.  Oh my goodness. Oh wait. Oh right, uh screen. Where are you? Also, I have this one been sent right after I joined well God's mistake. I like these weird socks though. Yeah It's cursed. I love it. When some German uses a mouse to draw flisms Oh Yeah good stuff All right, like I said The next thing he was going to be playing a spooky game on gamecube, which is obviously luigi's mansion While I catch up what's really spooky is the property taxes Oh my god One of one of my suggested talks was like talk about the the oil industry crisis and chex lockers stan or something and nobody chose it Sorry, sorry to uh, like did somebody make that god's mistake?  That is so good. Oh my god Who drew god's mistake who was that I did Beautiful did beautiful Oh Very talented lightning fast people in the crowd here. It's kind of insane. I'm I'll never be not amazed by this I'm about all the way just oh, hey, hello that we know who made that is uh Is it up there on the top there? Um, oh, I said, uh, yeah, you should be able to find the account name Oh, wait, that's a weird account. Oh my god. Who drew god's mistake?  I want to give the credit for it.   I did a save it onto my hard drive I'll find it on there.  So amnesia rebirth Metal rags and I have all completed it. We're going to be recording a meme fab on monday and at the beginning Probably hour of it. We're gonna we're going to talk about it extensively About what we loved about it and then the longer portion Yeah, well, we loved about it and uh after a few minutes we'll go Whoops, I do like that it ended Yeah, the ending was a really really real big relief Oh, I think that's what I said was my favorite part about the last of his part too.  I've never been so happy to skip credits. There you go.  Shall we? Son of peen right there It's so nightmarish. I love it. It really is terrifying But in a good way. Yeah, really Um, oh, yeah So someone I actually I'm going to mention here and I'm going to mention on monday as well because we'll have to talk about it But I just find it amazing. So, um I'll explain the mechanic first just so that uh as an an idrotic understand what it is As you play you you guys know about amnesia the doctor said to some degree to you I know of the game So it's a 2010 horror game first person Yeah, um, and the idea is you have no way to defend yourself against the monsters You have to avoid them and stay in secret from them and stuff like that um amnesia Was lauded as like one of the best horror games ever and reinventing the genre and frictional games were celebrated for Not doing the thing with horror games, which is to um, essentially have jump scares a lot Um, I've actually played outlast, but it's like it grabs you a lot has things screaming at you a lot Suddenly and it's yeah, it can be a very scary experience But at the same time as a as a critical reviewer you might be like well He didn't try very hard to get the scares while amnesia the doctor sent was uh working its ass off to get you in a position We're just like oh, Jesus Christ. It's so terrifying and so Uh to the horror. Yes the horror of rags myself and and and metal When you play the new one, um, you have let's call it a sanity meter And if it drops below about 50 percent You start getting random flashing images of monsters and a scream sound and it happens once per about three or four seconds Frictional called these things. They're not jump scares.  My respect is plummeting like the idea that you could try and argue those things aren't jump scares. Are you kidding me? I also have been told that they apparently um Lowered the frequency of the scares happening Which is good for them. Good for them They're just having which is the kind of thing you notice in testing when you're like, oh, this is extreme This is scary the first couple times. Then it's extremely annoying Well, the funny part is like we have so many more complaints, but that one being present throughout The 12 hour experience however long it actually takes on average. I don't know is absurd and disappointing um Not cool frictional Not cool that you put that in there and the fact that you would actually argue it's not a jump like for reference Gary as it literally goes That's the experience of it and so when you're walking around and you have that in your head you're like Do and you know when maybe the first few times it was scary, but when it keeps happening guess what the emotion becomes It's so yeah, oh, I wish it was apathy.    We're talking about amnesia Listen, whatever you say as long as you're willing to repeat it on monday.  Excellent. I've got them both on screen right now So this was the inventory screen Oh game that they made before penumbra. I believe it's called. Yep. This is penumbra's inventory screen. I'll I'll get Never played a penumbra myself, but I hear it's spooky tisms And this is the inventory screen of amnesia The dark descent Hey rags lead them into it. Can you can you spot anything good about these right now? Yeah, what what what can you notice between these two inventory screens, right? Don't worry if you don't answer it correctly. I'm just curious if yeah, because it might be Because it might be coordinated to uh, maybe you're you know, your key buttons your mouse buttons one two three four five six seven eight nine Well, I mean like aesthetically you can hot. Oh, um When it comes to just appearance and design aesthetic I'm using imagery more What um, this might be one of those things where well, it's obvious so obvious you might not even think about mentioning it But just showing the third one for the idea that Yeah, so I'm going to show you the third one. This is the amnesia rebirth um Inventory screen So can you notice the big difference between aesthetically between the first two and this one? Yes Okay, so the first two as you guys can tell very obviously are very dark Right. These these inventory screens are very easy on the eyes. They're they're very very They're dark You're playing a game where you're walking around in the dark for most of the game Not a lot of bright segments at all and the in any of these games You're gonna be spending most of your time staring at a mostly dark if not black screen And when you open your inventory the inventory is very dark as well and your eyes like that Now let's go to amnesia rebirth a game where for the most part you're Crawling around in very dark areas. It's so dark. I got complaints on my stream that like I wasn't uploading In a good enough bit rate when it's like no when you're in complete darkness It's hard for streams to actually like separate the darkness from itself. So it just comes across as blotchy Very dark game very dark.  I really don't get it Oh moller. Did you ever use your laudanum in the game? No, I didn't either. I didn't know what it was for Well, they told you at one point that people who are pregnant shouldn't use laudanum and I was like, okay I guess I won't because I'm pregnant And I also I like mechanically I don't know what it's for Also, I held out but I realized now that it was a pointless endeavor. I need to go be But this when you're making a game, I've never made a game. So, you know Apply salt were necessary never made a game, but I've played one or two in my time um This is something that I see every once in a while in the video games And it's a huge it's when an inventory or a menu system Is Really really really bright compared to the rest of the game To a degree minecraft has this issue Some other games do as well, but I've never seen it this bad where it is physically uncomfortable On your eyes to open up your inventory because the inventory is white I get that they want to make it look like a notebook I get it.  It's just I don't see how when they were play testing it They didn't realize that every time they opened up their inventory. They blind themselves The how bright it was compared to the darkness that you're constantly playing in Really weird takes it out of the game It does because like I was saying When I before I opened the screen like I would close my eyes and barely open one of them up So I wouldn't blind myself The baffling decision The game is The game is mechanically and narratively a big step down from the last two games Graphically, it doesn't look very impressive. It's fine. It looks fine in terms of graphics stuffs Um They give you way too many resources to the point where you're just like tripping over them You're constantly finding them and you can't use them. So they limit you The the the lighting mechanic in this is that you can carry matches And you light a match and then you could light You know lamps and things around you until the match runs out Uh, which is kind of nifty there the the match burns for like eight seconds and you can't sprint with it or it goes out But the issue is that for no reason They say that you could only carry 10 matches in your inventory And this is done or the obvious reason is they want to create artificial scarcity of these items That you can carry with you so that you feel as if oh, I've only got 10 matches Even though you're constantly finding them all around With them because you can only take 10. So you're just oh, I just Go a little further and use a couple of matches and get the other ones But then you get dropped in a new area and you can't go back. So doesn't even matter Yeah, I was I was using matches Because one I didn't want the the fear flashes of being in the darkness And two because I there's so many matches. I guess I'll just use them um, but if you're gonna if you're making a game and you want to Limit someone to carrying only 10 matches Then have them be the only 10 matches they happen to have at the time Or something Because matches are very tiny and you could carry a whole lot of them and you know that it's extremely important Uh at the beginning of the game that we're doing some spoilers by the way Um at the beginning of the game You will be spending a lot of time tediously walking through caves and narrow hallways and stuff in caves and You come across very early in the game A a torch that is lit and is constantly giving off light And so like an obvious person You want to take the torch with you If the torch that I think I actually said that During my serious like oh man, we all did Yeah, I said it out loud to myself. I was like why can't I take this torch? Obviously, I want to take this with me. It's right here in this rock I could clearly just lift it up and take it with me And I know I'm heading into the darkness both in game and out of game I want to take this torch with me and the game's like nope.  You know what problem mechanics right a lot of what I've found on the discord from discussing This with people is every time you spot something you don't like about amnesia rebirth It was done better in amnesia or soma and it was almost identical to how it was done in outlast in outlast You have batteries Of course Batteries are quite small if you guys didn't know you can actually pack a shit ton of batteries for a video camera into your pocket However in the game they're like no you can carry a max of like 10 you're like, okay That's weird on the hardest difficulty. You can only carry. I think three It's one of those sound ability to you as if in a survival game Like this where you know, you're going to be going through dark places where you know You need to keep your sanity up and the game provides you With things that inexplicably you can't carry with you.  They're bolted to the wall and things like that um In in a mirror here to amnesia the dark descent is that in this game you have a lantern that uses oil But the lantern oil It can it's in segments of 10 Um, so it's either like 100 90 percent 80 percent, etc. Full And you get three different sizes of oil cans that you can keep with you That will restore the oil in the lamp either like two units three units or four units something like that and I was I was basically full. I had a full lantern In full of all the sizes of refills that I could get because it limits you to like having Two having three and having two and did you find A large oil canister after you'd lost the lantern because I did yes. Yeah, I did why Why can you find something you can't use? I didn't even know I lost the lantern until I tried to use it and it was gone Um, jules cringe though. I couldn't pick up the large works. I had two already Oh, yeah, most. Yeah, I was most of the large oil refills You won't pick up because you already have the two it lets you carry And your lantern's full because you don't have to use it that much and it gives you so much oil This game very clearly and very quickly comes across as a anybody can beat it game. Yeah There there is basically no fail state um The the game is extremely liberal with its dispensation of materials for illumination Matches everywhere even where it doesn't make sense like you go into the um the the alternate world the alien world And there are matches lying around dude. They have torches to light in the alien world with technology That is so far beyond ours.  It's very unusual. Um, maybe you can find you can open up these