Coming up on DTNS, Gorilla Glass is tougher than ever. TikTok wants to pay creators to keep them, and who will by arm without getting in hot water? This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, July 23rd, 2020, from Studio Redwood, I'm Sarah Lane. From lovely Cleveland, Ohio, I'm Richard Raffalino. And from Oakland, California, I'm Justin Robert Young. And I'm Roger Chang, the show's producer. Before the show on GDI, we were talking about the future of sports. Birds and animals in general. And it was a lot of fun. If you want to hear that conversation, you can get the wider one on our expanded show, Good Day, Internet, by becoming a member at patreon.com slash DTNS. Let's start with a few tech things you should know. And let's get it started with Facebook. They expanded tests on a redesign to pages on mobile, which offers a cleaner design and easier management to owners. The redesign removes the like button, instead giving users only the option to follow and displaying a follower count. Pages themselves will focus on key information, like a page's bio and posts. On the management side, the redesign makes it easier to edit access and assign roles to page managers, and more easily show insight analytics directly on the page and for individual posts. On AT&T's earnings call, CEO John Stanky told analysts that HBO and HBO Max had a combined 36.6 million subscribers by the end of June. Of this, HBO Max had roughly three million retail customers with another one million activations coming through bundles and other AT&T platforms. Stanky said that getting HBO subscribers that use linear cable services signed up to HBO Max has been slow and that HBO Max users spend 70% more time in the app than HBO now users. Cornyn announced that Gorilla Glass Victus, the strong one, which claims twice the scratch resistance and a 25% higher drop rating of Gorilla Glass 6 up to two meters. Cornyn also says that Victus should survive an average of 21 meter drops up from 15 on its predecessor, so if you really want to beat it up, it might be the right glass to have. Samsung will be the first to ship with the new glass with the device coming in the next few months. The FCC has begun Auction 105, a nationwide auction of 22,631 priority access licenses of Prime Spectrum in the 3.55 and 3.65 gigahertz range, letting carriers bid on seven mid-band slices per county to help their 5G rollout. The auction has been postponed from earlier this year due to the COVID-19 pandemic. You may have heard of it. The FCC requires 3.5 gigahertz licensees to share Spectrum, providing immediate access to top priority government users, then to priority licensees, then allowing unlicensed CBRS users to access that same Spectrum. AT&T announced on its QT earnings call that its low-band 5G network is now available to 205 million people, which now meets the FCC's definition of a nationwide network. T-Mobile has had nationwide 5G networks since last December and covers over 225 million people. Verizon plans to launch its own nationwide low-band 5G network later this year. Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak, you may have heard of him as well, along with 17 other plaintiffs, filed a lawsuit against Google on Wednesday over a YouTube scam that allegedly used Wozniak's name and likeness to get viewers to send cryptocurrency for a Bitcoin giveaway event. Wow, the Bitcoin scams are really hot this week. Wozniak says that the scam, which also included Tesla CEO Elon Musk and Microsoft founder Bill Gates, using their likenesses as well, was ignored by Google despite repeated requests to take down the scam video. And Twitter announced that during the coordinated social engineering attack that hit the service last week, you may have heard of it, attackers were able to access the direct messages of up to 36 of the 130 targeted accounts. Twitter said this included the DMs of one elected official in the Netherlands, but that the attackers did not access the DMs of other high-profile politicians that had their accounts taken over. So, yeah, the plot thickens with the Google attack, but Justin, there is more to Google stories this week. Yeah, they buried a little news on top of the hack information. Probably a smart idea. In its Q2 earnings, Twitter said it saw a moderate recovery, quote-unquote, in its ad business since March, with ad revenue down 23% year over year for the quarter, but slowing down 15% in the last three weeks of June. The company reported revenue of $683 million, missing analyst expectations of $707 million, due in part to a $1.1 billion loss on a deferred tax asset. The company reported it lost $1.39 per share. Twitter saw monetizable daily active users increase 34% on the year to 186 million users, which beat analyst predictions and is the largest increase since Twitter adopted that metric. On an investor call on Thursday, however, CEO Jack Dorsey apologized for the company's recent security breach, saying it fell behind on security obligations. Dorsey also said that the company is actively exploring additional ways to make money from its users, including a potential subscription model. Earlier this month, the company posted a job opening focused on building a subscription platform codenamed Griffin. Yeah, so, yeah, and we talked about this when that job posting came up. Dorsey's saying, you know, on the call, listen, very, very early testing stages, but yes, this is something that we are actively exploring. You know, we are trying to figure out monetization options. You know, the ad revenue dip, it's, yeah, it's recovered a little bit, you know, in the last couple of weeks of June, but everybody, everybody across the board is feeling this. And the monetizable daily active users increasing leads me to believe, yeah, if you can make subscribers of some of those people, then, you know, it may be Twitter's real only viable option to make money this year. Yeah, and what's interesting to me is, I mean, Twitter is not the only social network. This is like the perennial social network problem of, hey, we have a ton of users. Also, we need to make money somehow. Twitter to date has done a reasonable job of doing that. I mean, they're in a good position to see that 34% increase. We were having conversations not too long ago where that number was looking flat. They have gone to this monetizable daily active user metric, so that doesn't give us a total scope of that. I do wonder if that includes some sort of intelligence within that number of, hey, if we were gonna do a subscription service, you know, how many of those we could turn around in there as well as a signal to, you know, to maybe alleviate some investor pressure as well. I think that a subscription from Twitter is smart. If it is an add-on to Twitter that maximizes the natural strengths of the platform, what I have thought forever is that they should be the seller of an over-the-top network like PlayStation View or Sling. It is what naturally people want to do on Twitter is watching, communicate, and see what other people are thinking about the stuff that they are watching right now. Very often, the trending topics on Twitter, when you are not the main character on Twitter, and folks, you remember, lesson, you never wanna be the main character. It is usually about television programs, about sporting events, about big events. Yeah, live stuff. Yeah, live stuff. If they have the ability to click through that, and now I can see exactly what everybody's talking about, and I can get more context to it, figure out a smart way to put in relevant tweets that are coming into the programming that you're watching, I think that that to me is the slam dunk and the way that I would immediately give money to Twitter. Beyond that, if they're looking at an enhanced version of the product, I don't know what Twitter could do to make me want to interact with a site that I think is probably harmful to mine and everybody's mental health. Oh, that's a really good point because I think a lot of people go like, what, I subscribe, and then, you know, I'm behind some sort of a paywall on Twitter, and only some people can see my stuff. There are a variety of different ways that a subscription option could work for somebody, especially, yeah, if you want to make sure that your tweets are, you know, I don't know, they rise to the top a little bit more rather than the ad model that Twitter's been using thus far. All right, well, speaking of social networks, TikTok, perhaps you've heard of that one, announced a new $200 million Creator's Fund to support US creators, at least for now, just the US, who are, as the company says, seeking opportunities to foster a livelihood on the app, that's what a TikTok spokesperson told the Verge. This is the first time that TikTok will pay creators directly for their content. They've been letting users monetize live streams beforehand, but this is the company saying, we want to pay you to stay. The company didn't say how many creators could receive funding. They also didn't say how often payments would be made or how much creators can earn, but that they would. To apply, you must be 18 years of age or older, which that's going to actually be a detriment to some TikTok creators, quite a few of them actually. You also have to consistently post original videos that adhere to the community guidelines of TikTok. And you also have to have a certain follower account. That's what TikTok says, although the company didn't say how many followers that meant. You know, it's kind of like YouTube saying you got to have a thousand subscribers in order to be able to monetize certain stuff. Creators in the United States can apply for funding starting in August. And the company says it plans to offer global access at some point. Most definitely not by coincidence, though. Earlier this week, several of TikTok's biggest stars announced deals outside the platform, because, you know, TikTok doesn't give creators much incentive to make money on the platform. Charlie Demilio, Dixie Demilio all announced a makeup line in partnership with Morph. Addison Ray, which is TikTok's second most followed creator after Charlie, announced a podcast exclusive to Spotify. So, yeah, it sounds like TikTok is like, hmm, well, first of all, people are a little bit worried about the platform in general. The US is, you know, threatening to shut it down completely. And we've got creators who are like, oh, we can make a lot of money doing stuff outside of the platform. Let's do that. And maybe we won't come back. And I think it's interesting that this is becoming a differentiator for any of these viral social media platforms for lack of a better term on that.  But the pull of that monetization keeps a lot of talent on that platform. And, you know, we've seen Instagram, you know, kind of famously has left monetization kind of, you know, hey, you can do your affiliate stuff and you can do your sponsored posts, but not kind of being as aggressive on that front. Interesting to see TikTok going there. And if you need to ask how many followers you need to apply for this, you don't have enough. Certainly so. As you mentioned, Sarah, TikTok is currently fighting a two-front war, A, an existential fight for their very existence on insistence that they are Chinese spyware, but really just as any other social media network that's fledgling, they're trying to hold on to signature talent at a moment where other companies are going to offer them cash. The only thing that TikTok really, really has going for them is the fact that they are kind of unlike anything assigned from maybe Instagram. And Instagram obviously utilized stories and, you know, to kind of take over the Snapchat element they put in video when Vine got big. But at the same time, TikTok is unique. The only thing that they don't have is a lot of ad real estate. And that's something where, you know, YouTube, you understand that there's a pre-roll if you want to go see somebody's video. You don't have that experience with TikTok. TikTok is something that is a lot more of a waterfall. You're just content, content, content, in terms of the user experience. So the idea that they are pouring money into it is smart. At the same time, it does come back to that existential crisis of like, oh, okay, so I'm very excited that my, you know, I'm going to be partnering with the Chinese government to.  That's the idea anyway, so. Sure. And I'm not saying because Tom would, I can hear Tom yelling at me to say that, like, let's be clear on the news program that TikTok is not owned by the Chinese government. But certainly these are the worries and especially we're talking about younger creators. Yeah. Well, let's talk about some Facebook news. Facebook's CrowdTangle reports on popular links on Facebook. Kevin Ruse at the New York Times used it to rank the most popular stories on Facebook. He's been tweeting his findings, which show that conservative sources like Fox News, Ben Shapiro, and Breitbart, as well as the president, tend to be the most popular. CrowdTangle measures likes, comments, and shares on a publisher's page, not on personal news feeds. They're just kind of separating those two out. Meanwhile, Facebook's John Hedgeman posted an analysis that showed that if you look at Reach, where, which is news that people actually see in their feed, whether they interact with it or not, you see more liberal or nonpartisan sources like MSNBC, the LA Times, People, and Ranker.com. Hedgeman argues that Reach is a reflection of what the Facebook algorithm is putting in front of people, while the engagement data used by Ruse reflects user behavior.  This kind of cycles around a lot of things you're passionate about here.  Reach versus, I guess, engagement and news. I'm curious on your take on this. Since the beginning of time, Rich, there have been some real kind of like medium is the message lines drawn when it comes to political content. For whatever reason, certain political content flourishes on certain platforms. Television, census, inception has been something that was very dominated by liberal sources. AM Radio, on the other hand, is something that has been dominated by conservative sources. For whatever reason, Facebook specifically is something that is very conservative. Conservative people are on Facebook. Conservative people are liking. They are sharing. They are gathering on the Facebook platform. I'm sure there's a lot of other reasons that go into why these particular sources are attractive to Facebook, but at the same time, Facebook does not want to be the concert. They don't want to be AM Radio. They don't want to be thought of as something that is only of one political ideology. And so it does not shock me that some of these other sources, liberal or nonpartisan, which is an interesting way of phrasing, because I'm sure there's a lot of people listening that would say putting nonpartisan in MSNBC or the LA Times in the same sentence is not something that they would consider accurate. But still, these are our sources that the algorithm is putting out there. And I would not be shocked if part of that is from Facebook's perspective saying, we don't want people that loathe Breitbart or Ben Shapiro to come on and see their entire newsfeed dominated by Breitbart and Ben Shapiro, even if that is the real power player when it comes to like shares and community interaction. Yeah, that's a really good point. I mean, the platform wanting everyone to have the best time ever is when you look at stats like this, it's like, okay, and again, I'm not giving Facebook a pass at all, but saying there's some fancy footwork going on behind the scenes to figure out how this stuff does work with the algorithm that is in place. Earlier this month, Bloomberg reported that SoftBank was exploring selling some or all of its stake in the chip designer ARM. Now, Bloomberg reports that, according to sources, Nvidia approached SoftBank about potentially acquiring the company. Sources says that other bidders for ARM could still emerge and SoftBank could opt out and instead take ARM Public, which according to a New Street research analysis, could set their value at $44 billion. ARM previously announced plans to spin off its IoT businesses to SoftBank, a move that might make them slightly easier to acquire. Sources say SoftBank approached Apple about acquiring ARM, but that Apple will not pursue a bid. Oh, a shocker that Apple wouldn't buy ARM. Rich, we were kicking this around before the show. ARM is so big at this point, and so many companies used ARM technology, but who can buy ARM without it becoming a serious anti-competitive issue? Yeah, it really does become that question, and Apple, I think, wisely, whether they wanted to own ARM's asset or not. One, they have the money to license ARM designs for as long as they want to before they eventually spin out and could theoretically just go wholly their own designs, 10 years in the future or something like that. But when you're looking at other competitors, whether it's Qualcomm, Google itself, any of those companies that have the assets to make a large acquisition like this, and again, we're talking the tens of billions of dollars for this potential acquisition, it's going to cause all sorts of regulatory concerns because they're also either makers or they profit off of the making of those chips. Nvidia comes in at a very interesting position on this because they do make some ARM-based chips with their Tegra baseline, but they don't have nearly the market penetration to shift a market like a Qualcomm or even a Google would have with that kind of deep integration. The thing that I think is really interesting about this is, to me, if Nvidia makes this move, and again, this sounds like it's still very early talks, to me, this is about the cloud. Nvidia has actually made a ton of acquisitions recently, basically in their company history, they make an acquisition once every three, four years. In the last year, they made four acquisitions, one of them very big, they acquired Mellanox for just under $7 billion. Most people should not know who Mellanox is, but they make super high-speed, low-latency interconnects for things like data centers, public cloud providers. I think that there is a market for, and a lot of other acquisitions play into cloud providers as well. I think there's an argument here that when we're looking at where the large cloud providers are going, we're talking Google, Azure, and Amazon, oh yeah, Amazon, the biggest one. When you're talking about those public cloud providers, all of them recently are coming out with more refined ARM-based instances. That means they're going to be getting, they're going to be selling tons and tons on those licenses, and I think NVIDIA sees that where they're already seeing deployment of their GPUs and a lot of their more AI-focused chips in those cloud data centers, I think they could see ARM maybe as the next frontier, given that X86 seems like it's kind of hit its performance and efficiency plateau, at least on the Intel side, for the time being. So I think this is, if they do make this move, it's a cloud play. $44 billion cloud play though. Yeah, I mean, it's like an order of magnitude above anything else that they have done in terms of acquisition. I don't know if this is going to be a weird reverse merger or something like that. I mean, SoftBank has already started cutting up ARM to kind of divest some of their stuff, so I wouldn't be surprised if maybe they trim that down as much as possible to make it possible for NVIDIA. Well, moving back to some Facebook news, the company announced its really announced support for Messenger Room's calls to broadcast a live stream using Facebook Live. Sounds familiar? Working from home, anybody? Users that create the Messenger Room can broadcast the call to their profile, or a Facebook page, or a Facebook group with controls for who can view the broadcast and join the call. Messenger Room live streams can have up to 50 participants. Now, you know, I always sort of joke on the show, like there's never a time that I need 50 participants, but there are a lot of companies that do, and a lot of companies that use Facebook pages and Facebook groups, and the Facebook ecosystem in general to collaborate. So it's a move on Facebook's part to be like, all right, come on over to our side if you haven't already. What I think is the interesting play with this is that a lot of the strength of what drove Zoom to be very popular in the pandemic was the fact that only one person that was going to set up that call needed to have any kind of login, right? Or you could even do it. I'm pretty sure you could even do it with no login on Zoom, or at least you could do so now. And Skype and other services kind of adopted that. And the advantage of there, it's frictionless, right? You just click on the link you're in the meeting. Yeah, there's Zoom bombing privacy concerns. Facebook is taking the opposite approach, but also kind of to the same purpose, right? Everyone has a Facebook account. Everyone's probably already logged in on their browser. So that also becomes, in terms of a group call in rooms, becomes frictionless and then throwing in that Facebook Live where for a lot of businesses, for a lot of groups, that they may not have a website. This is targeted at those people and organizations that Facebook is the internet for them. And that is a lot of people. And so I feel like they are seeing that as an opportunity to kind of have that same kind of impact that Zoom has while taking advantage of the fact that, hey, you're already here. This is your online presence. Let's do some webinars or something like that. And the song gets played. It's always what Facebook does. Facebook makes the knockoff product. They will get X amount of success because if you offered a Facebook punch in the face, enough people would hit the button that would allow the Facebook like fist to rock your jaw. But it's ultimately a fish with feathers. Like either you are going to do rooms in a way that enhances the experience of the people, how people use Facebook or you're going to do Facebook Live and have a coherent strategy around that which has already seen so many stops and starts in terms of what they want to define Facebook Live video content is. Is it showing whatever you're seeing right now in a very mobile friendly way? Is it high end content? Is it video games? Facebook just kind of wants to throw everything out there and see what sticks and ultimately it means that very little does. So I think this is yet another Facebook product that will get X amount of adoption and then sometime down the road we're going to have a little quick hit saying Facebook is retiring messenger to live integration. We'll have that wonderful chuckle of that's still a thing. Remember that? Something else I always remember is Plex. They announced the addition of 80 ad supported live TV channels to its streaming service available to subscribers and free users. Users can access the channels through a new section called Live TV on Plex which shows a traditional grid guide of what's playing and what's coming up next on each channel like you'd find I don't know on your cable or your streamer. Users can customize the channel listings but cannot record the channels to a Plex media server. Plex eventually plans to integrate the channels with its existing product for recording from live TV with an antenna.  One does this sound appealing to you and two is this kind of Plex maybe going after Pluto TV or something like that? Definitely is. Pluto TV would be the most direct competitor that would come to mind to me. I do. I run a Plex media server. That is how a lot of my content is organized. I've done it for years and Plex has made some really good inroads in making that experience better. This is very different than that. This is Plex saying, all right, you don't have to pass a dollar. You can just watch free stuff. It's ad supported but you can watch free stuff. The way that you do with some of the other cable alternatives, as I like to say, which they are. Some of the stuff that Plex has on offer Reuters TV, Yahoo Finance, something called Cooking Panda, Drink TV, Tastemade, these are networks that you tend to see on free offerings across the web. It's cool. The Bob Ross channel, by the way, just want to shout out Bob Ross. You want to watch Bob Ross all day? You got it on Plex now. But this is very different than what Plex is bread and butter is. The idea that Plex is like, okay, we've offered a live offering. If you've got an OTA antenna and there's some recording options that we're not going to offer on this. But just to get people into the Plex ecosystem, being like, oh, I could just watch free stuff and it's laid out real nice and I can play it on my Roku, my Apple TV, or the web or mobile kind of thing, it's smart on Plex's part. To me, this reminds me a lot of Sling, in terms of taking a hardware brand and making a service kind of play to it. Whereas Sling was, I'm willing to pay a leading-edge price to have hardware that can give me stuff where I wouldn't normally get it in sort of like circumvent rules so I can have flexibility on my content. Plex is more, I want to maximize my content. I want to make sure that everything's up here. It's a little bit more DIY and so free content, maximizes content, all that much more. In fact, now it's bringing you content. I think it's smart and whatever they can make on running these channels, then good for them. 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The other big name in wrestling waited over a month longer before adding in a faux crowd, and the difference in the shows was evident. It's certainly a lower tech approach to the problem, but might be a cheaper option for other athletic events. And at least in the case of AEW, this is myself, Rich talking now, certainly gave Billy Gunn something to do with his time, which I think was appreciated. Certainly so. Oh man, I have a lot I want to say. Don't think I should say it here. Not only is this, you know, the AEW example, I think is probably the most colorful version because they allowed their performers to kind of actually just be characters in the crowd and kind of gave them a little character business, at least early on, to differentiate like, oh no, these aren't just bodies. These are these larger than life figures that are interacting in interesting ways, watching the in-ring product. What I think WWE has done is a little bit more just generic bodies, just people to cheer and people to boo and people to just kind of be excited around there. But the advantage that those guys have is they've made their own little mini bubbles and, you know, how secure is kind of, you can do more research on companies, but that's their idea. Whereas, you know, for MLB, they're traveling from stadium to stadium, but yet the product needs to remain consistent. So I can understand the idea of trying out other sounds and I think that there are probably things, there are developments that we've yet to really see, including, you know, I know that there's been a few teams that have had their fans chant into their phone and now you're actually making, you're sewing together a demand, which is I think cool and even, you know, live streaming, that would almost be even cooler, in my opinion. 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You can see your game sort of floating in the air in front of you. So these guys sent over some XR glasses for me to check out. These are the Witcher 1 XR glasses. And beat-em-ups has talked about them several times. Linus Tech Tips did a video on it too. And now I am going to have a go and tell you what I think. So Witcher were kind enough to sponsor this video and they sent over two pairs of glasses. The neck band, the case for the neck band and the Nintendo Switch dock pack, which also extends the battery of the Nintendo Switch. I am excited! I have already watched movies on these glasses. I've already played my PS5 games. I have also already played Xbox Series X on these glasses, the Nintendo Switch on these glasses. I have taken them outside of the house and I've been thoroughly using the neck band as well. I have plenty of things to say about this new product and let me just start off by their booklet. What are the promises of these XR glasses? Okay, I'm playing a speech. Okay. Awards and accolades. Best inventions 2022. Now the Witcher 1 glasses, they are compatible with a steam deck. I don't have a steam deck so I couldn't check that out. Compatible with Android phone. Actually, yeah. I hooked them to my phone. And actually, a funny interface popped up that I've never seen on an Android phone before. Almost looked like a PC. That was kind of funny. So these glasses, they are promising. But you can go from a 720p screen on the steam deck and also probably the Switch. I think they also mean the Switch. And to a 1080p 60 frames per second on the Witcher 1. So what this is actually telling me straight out of the box is that these are working as a monitor on your eyes.  Do you think they look stylish? Imagine traveling with these, having these on the plane. Now let's look at the other features. TV to go, exactly. Exactly what I said. Fashionable and functional. Lightweight and ergonomic. I agree, they're not heavy. You know when I previously reviewed like a actual VR headset and I've complained about how tight it feels around the head and how tired I get from the weight of the entire thing. I'm sure you'll remember that. This form factor is much more what I would prefer. Exactly what I would prefer, actually. I've never played this. Amazing display. Yep, can confirm. Stunning audio. Now I watched Pride and Prejudice. The movie was actually packed in, coming with the neckband. So I watched that, lied on the couch and while I was lying on the couch it just looked like I was chilling with sunglasses on. But I was actually watching a movie. Vision correction. Now here's the thing with the glasses and this is what I immediately thought of when I saw the product for my first time. I was like, how are they gonna do it if you are already a glasses wearer? Now my eyesight is really good but I do need a tiny bit of adjustment in order to get just about anything to be perfectly crisp and sharp. So they have two dials where you can adjust the picture to be perfectly crispy clear and I had to tweak that for a tiny bit in order to get my perfect sharpness. What I did is that I closed one eye and then I adjusted the eye and then I closed that one and then I adjusted that one and then then it was good. Native 3D support.  So with the glasses if you have two of them which I do have you can play it together in XR. I'm just focused on the game. I definitely can't bob my head that makes it even worse. I know. The screen is on your eyes. Yeah. I mean the screen is clear but I can't see on both my eyes. Oh yeah. But there are two knobs.  Now the docking pack. That is actually extending the battery life of your switch. So if you bring your switch in the docking device and you hook them to your glasses it works as a dock to the glasses and also extends the battery life. That is good for traveling.  I want to say that it is like an Android device that you have around your neck. This thing that I'm holding in my hands right now it has its own user interface its own menus own settings. You can sign into Netflix YouTube any other streaming device that you like to watch your stuff on. You navigate with these buttons and another setting that Linus wasn't aware of is that you can customize the d-pad directions under settings. And you can also control the neckband with their app using touch gestures which you can also type text on. They have fans for cooling down the system and you wear it around your neck like this. These magnetic click-ons so satisfying. Shampoo and hurrah. And there you go. Right now what I'm seeing is a screen in front of my face and what I found out something that Linus Tech Tips and his team said is that the screen felt like it was too close to you. Now I found little I found that in the settings you can zoom the picture more out you can adjust it up and down and if you would like to the side and stuff so that is kind of funny. He also mentioned motion sickness but there is a setting to lock the screen in place by triple clicking the short button so that the screen doesn't follow your head but I bet he didn't know that. As you can see you have YouTube, Netflix, Prime Video who uses Prime Video? And I have of course installed PS Play which is my preferred app to cloud play my PS5 that's upstairs and also the Xbox Play app which works the same way. Veacher is now the official partner of PS Play and Xbox Play so these two apps are now free for all neckband users. Steam Link Oh yeah you can actually also play your Steam games on these glasses and it works it has a Google Play Store 3D player this neckband also has Bluetooth so you can connect a gaming controller you can of course adjust the brightness of the screen you can adjust the volume something I'm gonna mention though first when I put these on I felt like these what is this called the small things that goes on your nose I had to change them out and the pack comes with several of these so you can swap them and find whatever fits your nose bridge after selecting the correct nose pad you will have no issue seeing the whole screen which apparently Linus struggled with so I had to do that I'm really enjoying these glasses okay do I look fashionable? now these are blue dark blue and I also have the black ones upstairs and I like the case case is good also a case for the neckband which can also charge the neckband when you're on the go fashion it has an ambient mode I've not been using the ambient mode but in theory you can do cooking and also have a little video down on the side like that I need to try that headgaze control I haven't tried that either oh my god I hope you're not gonna show the gameplay of this I've never played anything I've never played anything okay so do you feel like the screen is floating in front of you? yeah it is basically two monitors that you can pack with you when you're traveling you can also watch movies on this thing all right cool and here you have the packs that I can select glasses only loud pack switch pack or the ultimate pack I recommend the ultimate pack they also for some reason sent over our bunch of stickers thank you now who would I say that these glasses are for people that travel travel a lot like take the train take the bus also if like you need your own little monitor in the house you can lie down on the couch stare into the void it looks like you're staring into the void you can lie on the couch and you're actually low-key gaming oh yeah when I played switch I was lying on the couch on my back and I had one joycon in each hand so I could lie in a funny position and it looked like I was staring into the void also there is a setting for making the background more dark instead of transparent and also if you want to go even blacker you have these shades that goes over it very good I feel like this company is going all out with the marketing I've seen a bunch of youtubers get this care package and I gotta say thank you again it was really nice packaged a lot of care and love was put into the packaging of this look at that I can think of several places and situations where this would come in handy also I like the form factor and I like that we're talking about glasses and not something that goes around your head and is weighing you down I think the image quality is really good if you adjust these knobs and it's also kind of funny you can see your game sort of floating in the air in front of you now since this video is sponsored by Witcher I actually have a link down below that you can click on in order to order in order to order your own pack the ultimate pack or just a switch dock pack I also have a discount code so if you use that you can get a discount on your order of the Witcher 1 XR glasses and try these glasses out for yourself I am really intrigued by this product and I think they have come a long way the glasses feel good they feel very premium the neckband feels very premium a lot of fun can be had with this now thank you so much for sponsoring this video this has been a lot of fun lie on your couch and stare into the void you can fool people into thinking that you're chilling while you're actually sweaty gaming thank you so much for watching check out my link down below and I will see you later


I don't know about you, Greg, but that sounded like really fast. I lagged. It lagged for about 30 seconds before I could get it to turn on. Oh my god. Hey everybody. Hello. Hello, Megs. How are you over there? I've got you. I've got Greg. It's so beautiful out here. Yes, Megs is coming to us from the Canadian wilderness somewhere. Check that out.  Beautiful, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, I love the hair. The hair is giving the guided tour. Well, last time I lifted my computer up to do that, it got me off. So I'm tethered to my phone because there's no power. There is no nothing out here. And I'm like, the cottages at the other end of the lake are the closest people to me. So I'm good with that. Hey, Hillary Gatsby. Hillary was our first one here. We should give a prize for the first one here every time. Oh, yeah. Well, Hillary would have won that a lot of times. Yes, she would. And so does Tommy Buck and sometimes John Kleiner. Let's see. Susan Anderson is here. Christine Miller. Chris Ferriello appeared. Hey, Chris. Betsy Ko. Hey, Betsy. Janine Lee Isleman Goodman. Good. I can never say your name. It's like, yeah, no. Judy Stutz is here. Hey, Brian. Sharon Hayes, Kathy Nava. Oh, my screen just did something. If I disappear, if I disappear, you realize it's nature and not me. Yeah, it's nature. Yes. Yeah. That's my excuse and I'm sticking with it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I've got all the tabs open necessary in case I have to go around the solo or something. You're trying to catch everybody. I think I got everybody. You say Lisa. Yeah. Yeah. Tommy Buck has a question of the week. Do you know what the question of the week is? The question. It's a good one this week. I'm going to add this to my screen. Give me a second because I'm not on my regular computer. Question. Did you catch the genealogy bug? Yeah, everyone does a good job every week of coming up with great stuff. Yeah. So is my screen sharing okay? Yes, it is. It's looking great. I see the question of the week. How did you catch the genealogy bug? Greg? Yes. How did you catch the genealogy bug? How did I catch the genealogy bug? Well, even as a young kid, I always was interested in family trees and charts and whatnot. And maybe that was the budding mathematician in my young brain.  And so it was always a huge family. So I was always interested in how everyone was interconnected and stuff. So even though I was adopted, I sort of became the family historian and putting together all that stuff in my teenage years and early 20s. And then, more recently, when I reconnected with my biological family and then had to start the family tree all over again, then that really reignited it again. And so because finding this French-Canadian relative and then this one, it was like putting together a giant jigsaw puzzle and going through the records. And it was very exciting. And wiki tree was a big part of all that too. So you know, I've had a lot of people say that they like genealogy. They continue doing genealogy because it's a puzzle. And people who like to do puzzles really enjoy genealogy. Or quilt makers. There's lots of quilt makers. I can see the connection there. Yeah. Yeah. And mine was, I always say that my grandmother caught me as I was being born and just started yelling, your grandfather is, your grandmother is. I literally grew up on my grandmother's plural knees learning about our family. And then my grandmother had a strange story and I'm not going to go into it. It's like an hour long tell you this. And I wanted to prove that she was a part of the family that she thought she was a part of. And so that's why the genetic component came into genealogy. So yeah, my grandparents, pretty cool people. Yeah. Lots of fun, fun, fun, fun comments. And a lot of people. Wow. Yeah. 110. I'm not going to go through everyone. Because I'm still I'm hanging by a thread here. Nan Starjack, Diane Espo, got hers upgraded to best dancer. And it is, among the family stories my mother told, one was about her cousin George, who was murdered in a garage during prohibition while he was involved in rum running. Mm hmm. But when I found George's find a grave memorial, it showed him dying in 1995 at the age of 103. So no, no. Okay, so she had to figure out the story behind it. So Nan says it took years to track down, but short version, it was George's brother who was murdered during prohibition, but nothing to do with that. George did later die, unfortunately, by suicide. And all of this stuff on finding grave is massively wrong. The moral of the story isn't, this is what got me into genealogy, but the moral of the story is don't believe anything until you verify it. Wow. She had lots of good answers or lots of, there's a lot of good comments, good talk, good discussions going on on GDG. Tommy Buck, IU state, I am interested in genealogy. I got, I became interested back in the early 80s when my father's siblings, all sisters decided to have a family reunion. Now, when I went through all of the list of information for people, what their reasons were for getting involved in genealogy, that was one of the top, that was one of the top family. So he says he went to a family reunion. It was at this reunion that they started writing down their family history. After the reunion, my mother and I spent numerous hours going on to our local Carnegie Library, where we began to search for our ancestors. I've found genealogy fascinating. It's a wonderful hobby ever since Tommy Buck, that's a good story. And that's a story a lot of people might have gone to the reunion, but you also added in the facet of one of your ancestors helping you get started. So that hits those two high points. Hilary Gadsby. Okay. Hilary, in the house. Just put a picture of an old suitcase off. Really? Come on, Hilary. Okay, give her a break. She did. She did link a blog post. I wrote a blog post about this. I'm not going to repost it in G to G with the link people and you go to Hilary's to her week one of 52 ancestors in 52 weeks. And that would be a good one to get started with. Yeah. But in her first post, it's all about how she got started given she's gotten a suitcase. She's supposed to take care of it. This is what's in it. Look at this. This is your mission. Look at the stuff. Yeah. That's all that was in the suitcase. That's cool. As well as telegrams. The suitcase contains other family items, including some certificates and burial documents for the Ward family. Isn't that cool? And then she maps it all out. Go and I'm not going to read her whole blog for you. Go read it yourself, people. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go back to the 52 ancestors. Just one of those kids who like to listen to stories, the older people we're telling, that's from Rob Neff, 23 and me kit. So somebody giving them a DNA kit for Christmas got them started. So that's fun. That's from John Vaskey. Don't forget to go through and upvote these great answers to folks. Now, look, see, that lag wasn't very long. A few minutes ago, I tried to click up the upvote. It wouldn't wouldn't even do it. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. Letters for my great uncle detailing some genealogical details. But I couldn't do much with them. Currently, no records available in New Zealand. And I was not yet online to find anything. When I moved to Canada, I was finally able to be online and Canadian records were much more easily available than those. So Canada, Robin Loser, you're welcome. Yes. Yeah, we're so glad you came to Canada and got interested. That's fun. Oh, let's see. We'll upvote that one. They, Garwood, fascinated with ancestry. Ever since she was a child and grasped the concept. Do you know there's another big, big one in this list is people who had to do genealogy research reports for high school or for middle school? Yes. Or for elementary school? That was the thing that got them started. And in those things, I mean, they're wonderful because you have to go to your elders. Yes. How they came to be. So yeah, that's good. That's right. My mother wanted to get info on the Mayflower. So people wanting to join historical societies. And like, what is the Mayflower organization called? That's not the daughters of the revolution. No, it would be, is there a program society? El Greer says that they were a bored teenager staying at Granny's house. Or at asking questions. Yeah. And I love this one, Renee Newman says, I'm pretty sure I was born with it. Oh, yeah. Started calling her grandma, started walking back that information. And it's in the genes, Daniel Vaughn. It's hereditary. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Uh-oh. I unvoted my upvote. Oh, no. Don't do that. Don't do that. 1977, after seeing the miniseries roots, that was a biggie. Yes. Oh, yeah. I was really enthralled by that as well. Judy says it was called, it was just called the Mayflower Society. Okay. Which seems pretty obvious. Which seems pretty obvious now when you say it like that. Let's see. A teenager when my father's cousin, Phyllis Herd-Smith, shared some of her discoveries with us. A particular interest were a transcript she prepared of what my second great grandfather had written of his experiences as a soldier in the G-A-R, 9th, New Hampshire, during the U.S. Civil War. And they have Mayflower. There we go. Mayflower again. That's anonymous read. Yeah. So there's tons and tons and tons of great questions. I'm finding it hard to see my screen and I'm enjoying you guys. Go and check out the question of the week. And we'll move on so we can give Greg all of his time that he needs this morning. Oh no. Okay. Let's see. So we will go with... It's like there's just a silhouette of my camp area. Yes. Now you've got the silhouette thing happening. Yeah. It's getting cloudy. Yeah. That must be it. There we go. Add to stream. So let me just zoom in a little bit more. There we go. Can you see that clearly? Yes. If everything was that big of a font, then it wouldn't be a problem at all, would it? So the profiles of the week are all about water, which is so appropriate considering where you're broadcasting from, Megs. It's amazing. Which aquatic enthusiast are you most closely connected to? Well, I would say Megs Golden is the closest aquatic enthusiast. But other than that, the main profile, the starring profile of the week was is Jacques Cousteau or Jacques-Yves Cousteau, who was born in 1910, 11th of June, 1910, and Saint-François-Ré du Cousteau, Géronde, France. Pierre Daniel Cousteau and Réjean-Lizabeth Duatton. And he lived for 87 years, died on the 25th of June 1997 in Paris. So he's commonly known in English just as Jacques Cousteau, though his full name is actually Jacques-Yves. He was a French naval officer as well as an explorer, conservationist, filmmaker, innovator, scientist, photographer, author, and researcher who studied the sea and all forms of life in water. He co-developed the Aqualung, pioneered marine conservation, was a member of the Académie Française. So he did a lot of stuff, like he really advanced marine. Did you watch him on TV? Yes. His TV specials were amazing, like the photography was incredible. The science was incredible. The images that he captured, he was doing things that no one else was doing at that time. In the way he described what he was doing really drew you in and really made you want to be there. Yeah. He made it understandable too for people. So it was very impressive. The calypso was the name of the ship that he used, which had been a minesweeper. Someone else bought the ship because obviously it would have been expensive. And then they leased it to Cousteau for just $1 per year. So obviously someone else who believed in his mission. His wife was Simone, Simone-Marie, Marie-Merquillard. And she was in that first mission, she was the only woman on the ship. But she was also heavily involved. She sold her family jewels for the fuel for the ship and her fur to buy a compass and a gyroscope. Behind every great man. Yes, why lies a greater woman. With jewels and furs. With jewels and furs. I don't know if everyone has jewels and furs, but it's nice when they do and they can help out that way. So very impressive. The next person, Hobart Laidlaw Alter, who's Canadian from Ontario. Oh, but not our Ontario. Ontario, California. So I was excited there. I wondered why he went from Ontario down to Palm Desert in California, but I guess he just went around the corner. It's the son of Hobart Romig Alter and Catherine Gray Laidlaw. But it's funny. When I first read that, and I misread that it was Ontario, California, I just thought it was Ontario. I was thinking, oh, isn't that interesting? Because his wife or his mother's maiden name, which is Laidlaw. I thought, I wonder if they're related to the Ontario Laidlaws, because in Ontario, I don't know if anywhere else, but Laidlaw is the name of a is the name of a big bus company. In fact, many school buses belong to the Laidlaw Corporation. So I thought, well, it's kind of appropriate if he, if that's where he came from, because he's known for another form of, of transportation. He was the creator of the Hobie Cat, Catamaran's, and the founder of the Hobie Company. And so there's a picture of the Hobies. And, and it's not down here, but normally there is a Hobie Cat sailboat sitting right next to me, but it's not down here right now. Oh, really? Isn't that neat? That is. Yeah. So he was a surf, he was a surf and sailing entrepreneur and pioneer, created the Hobie Cat, as I mentioned. And his profile is kind of neat because it puts, it lists some of his ancestors who were, who took part in various things, the revolutionary war, the Puritan migration, that sort of thing. So that's kind of neat when you have profiles that also show how people are connected. Next one is Peter Bradford Benchley. And I remember having a book by him on the shelf, because he, of course, is the best known as the writer of Jaws. I'm looking safe so far. Okay. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, you're careful. I'm not sure how many great whites are in the Canadian wilderness, probably not too many. Not too many, no. You're probably safe. Anyways, he was born in 1940 in Manhattan and lived, he only lived to 65. That's way too young to pass away. Passed away in 2006 in New Jersey, Princeton, New Jersey. Did he die of a shark attack? Yeah, that's right.  His bio was pretty short as well. He does have a fine at Grave Memorial, which I didn't investigate, but probably doesn't give cause of death. Anyways, he's contributed a lot to the sort of the zeitgeist of marine life and monsters. Even if you haven't even seen the movie Jaws, everyone knows about Jaws. So it's kind of, it's something that's just out there. The next one, Madeline Dorothea Bairiman, born Spencer, daughter of Charles Herbert Spencer and Mary Victoria Carrington. She is part of Black, US Black History and part of the Black Heritage Project, was an American oceanographer and an attorney. She was born in Virginia in 1920. She was the fifth of nine children, so right in the middle, four younger than her, four older than her. She married Samuel Thomas Bairiman in 1946, and they had two daughters who were also both very accomplished. One was an engineer and an attorney, and the other one was a research scholar, dance artist, and educator. So she earned a baccalaureate degree in mathematics, way to go, from American University, and a master's in marine affairs, concentrating on oceanography and sonar engineering from the University of Rhode Island. And in 1957, she joined the US Naval Oceanographic Office in Maryland and taught courses on statistics on dynamics of the ocean and underwater sound. Also a professor of marine science at the University of District of Columbia in Washington, DC, and served as the chair of the Department of Environmental Sciences from 1970 to 1981. So a very accomplished person, done lots of stuff, and early on too, when it was probably fairly unusual for women to be in those roles. So very impressive. Next we have Trudy, Gertrude Caroline Ederly. Now do you know who she was? No. So I was very impressed. So she was born in 1905 in Manhattan, New York, 23rd of October. She lived through the ripe old age of 98, passed away in the 30th of November of 2003 in New Jersey. But her claim to fame is that she was the first woman to swim across the English Channel. I was going to say, was she the one that swam to Cuba? Oh, I didn't see that in the profile, but I might have missed it because I was skimming. But the cool thing is not only was she the first woman to swim, but when she did that swim, she beat all the previous times by men who would swim before her. Of course she did. Of course she did. Yeah. I like this quote here. I always like the quotes. The great point in my swimming at all was to show that a girl could do it, and then an American girl could do it, and that I was the American girl, not me, her. No. There's a couple of things wrong with that statement, Greg. Yeah, that's right. But that's kind of cool. Her parents had migrated from Germany, became a butcher, her father, and then her swimming career she competed competitively from an early age at 16, and she joined the Summer Olympics. What is that contraption? Is that an early kayak? What does it say here?  Yeah, I guess it is some type of kayak or something, right? Because she's got a paddle there. Can you see the paddle? She's holding it. Yeah. It looks like it has a seat and a place for your foot. Yeah. Yeah. How crazy. That is wild. That is wild. Yeah. So she tried to swim it twice. So the first time she swam it, they took her out. They pulled her from the water against her wishes, and so that disqualified her. I guess they were afraid that she wasn't going to make it. But then the following year she tried again, and then she succeeded, and that's when she became the first woman to do so. And she was honored with a ticker tape parade when she came back to New York, so that's kind of neat. Sadly though, what's that? Sadly, she suffered from hearing loss not only because of childhood measles, but then the damage was compounded by that swim in the channel. Yikes. That's pretty cold water. Yeah, it would be. I wonder if later people put more type of ear protection or something and learn from that. By 28, she was almost completely deaf, so that's too bad. But she dedicated her time as a swimming instructor for deaf children after that. Anyway, it's very interesting. You learn lots from the profile of the week. At least I do. There's discussion on people talking about how they're related to each other. John Kiner is revealed that he's a part of the Guinness family. We need to go and visit John. Yes. Okay. You know who your closest is? It's Melville. Oh, is it? Oh, that's kind of neat. At 21, mine is 17. Oh, I've got two that are Matt. It's Herman Melville and Albert Alter. Okay. Oh, yeah. And Michelle, the winner, Deathwiler. Oh, neat. So the next profile is Dr. Archibald Gowenloch Huntsman, who really is from Ontario, Canada. And you knew how to pronounce that middle name really well. What, Gowenloch? Yeah. Yeah, I went to school. That would have been Gowenloch, Gowenloch. No, I actually have friends, the last name Gowenloch, went to high school with some, played in the band with someone, the last name Gowenloch. Of course you did. Of course I did. That's right. He's from a little place called Tintern, which is in Lincoln County, Ontario. Son of Lucian Orotas Huntsman and Elizabeth Ann Gowenloch. This is a very full profile. Look at this.  So he was born in 1883 and he passed away in 1973 at the age of 89 in St. Andrews Charlotte, New Brunswick. So moved from Ontario to New Brunswick. He was a Canadian, a Canadian academic oceanographer and fisheries biologist and is best known for his research in Atlantic salmon and inventing the fast freezing of fish filets in 1929. So thanks to him we can freeze fish filets really quickly so that we can eat them later and they won't go bad. He was honoured in 2000 by the Canada Post with a commemorative stamp and the Huntsman Marine Science Centre in St. Andrews, New Brunswick is named after him and he was honoured frequently by scientific societies in Canada, the US and the UK. So very accomplished and he was Canadian. Oh, Mindy's here. Someone was worried. Oh, Mindy came in. I was going to tell you that. I saw earlier when you were doing the question someone was worried about Mindy and her because of the weather down her way. Oh, was there bad weather down there? I think someone said floods or something. Oh, wow. There we go. She's just answered the question. That's good. That's good. Okay. Well, we're happy you're safe. Mindy, you stay dry. Very happy. Very happy. I'm staying dry so far. Yeah, look at you. Yeah, don't fall into that lake. Don't lean back too far. Well, and also those clouds are filling in there. I actually had to put on a... No. Okay. So let's see if I can do this. I've been practicing this all morning. Duke Pawa, Kahinu, Makoe, Huliko Hola, the big kahuna, the bronze duke, the duke. Kahana Moku is our next profile. That's the big kahuna. The big kahuna. Yes. Who knew? I did not know that the big kahuna was actually the nickname of an actual real live person. I just thought it was the name, like someone, like the giant water buffalo, or, you know, what was the phrase they used in the Flintstones? Yeah. You know what I mean? I thought it was a made-up title. I didn't realize, but it was actually this guy's nickname, Pawa Kahinu, Makoe, Huliko Hola, Kahana Moku. Go ahead. Say it five or six, four times, because you know. I think... Anyways, he was the son of Duke Halapu Kahana Moku and Julia Pakonia, Lono Kakinah, Kakinah, Pawa. I'm not going to name all his brothers. I'm just going to carry on because we don't know what Greg is saying. That's right. One of my favorite places, but the profile or Hawaii. So the big kahuna was born in 1890 in Halaakala, Honolulu, on the island of Oahu in the Kingdom of Hawaii. So this was long before it became a state. And he died on the 22nd of January 1968, at the age of 77 in Honolulu. He competed as a swimmer in four Olympic games, winning five medals. He won the gold medal in the 100 meter freestyle in 1912, and the silver medal with the second place US team in the four by 200 meter freestyle. He defended his gold in 1920 and won gold again in the freestyle that year. He won a silver medal during 1924 when the Olympics were in Paris. And the gold that year went to Johnny Weissmueller. So that was pretty stiff competition in the pool that year. And the bronze went to the Duke's brother, Samuel Kahana Moku. At the age of 34, this was Kahana Moku's last Olympic medal. He was also an alternate for the US water polo team in the 32 summer Olympics. Well, that would make sense if you're a swimmer that you would be a natural to be on the water polo team too. And he registered for the draft. And I think if I tried to play water polo, polo, I would just drown. Yeah, I yeah. Unless they let's they give you an inflatable horse underneath you. There you go or two. So I don't know. Anyways, very impressive. So Mindy's connection to Hawaii, your dad was born there. Oh, there's a whole conversation going on about Hawaii. Yeah, Hawaiian cousins. Wow. I wonder, does she get to visit often? That would be a great excuse to go visit. She said her dad was born there. She didn't say he still lived there. No, but must have had relatives on the island still. Yeah, or not a good excuse to go do genealogy to see if she's on the island. Mindy, all you guys are talking about connections. I think we should like do a cruise. Let's do a wikitree cruise to Hawaii. A wikitree cruise. That'd be so cool. That would be so cool. Maybe one of the sessions on wikitree day would be a cruise planning session. Anyway, just tuck that away. And Lisa Gervais says for a long time she thought water polo involved, horses swimming. Why wouldn't it? It makes perfect sense, Lisa. I think it does. Certainly sounds safer than just being all alone in a pool by yourself with a bunch of other people. It's like way deep. Yeah. No. Crazy. Anyway, so this is my closest connection, you say? It is. Herman Melville, an author and poet born in 1819. I didn't realize he was that old. Born in the 1st of August, 1819 in New York City. He's an American. And died on the 28th of September, 1891. Now, look at that. The year of his birth is an anagram. 1819, you rearrange that, you get 1891. You know, I bet if he had known that, he would have lived a bit longer. Oh, no. No, that's perfect. Age of 72. Which again is a little on the young side, I'm thinking at this point. So he's an American writer of novel short stories and poetry. And his contributions to the Western Canada are the wailing novel Moby Dick. That's the one he's most famous for. But he also did some other stuff. Bartleby, The Scrivener is a story about a clerk in the Wall Street office. There's a slave ship narrative called Benito Cereno. And Billy Budd the sailor was a work that he was working on, but was unfinished because he died before it was published. Billy Budd sailor? Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Was it a biography? It sounds like a genealogy. Yeah. Yeah. So there's now, so the next part of the profile just to basically the genealogical facts, you know, blah, blah, blah. But then his obit is a lot is a lot more interesting because it gives some information we didn't know about. But the fact, for example, that he was ill health because of the effects of sunstroke and his death was not unexpected. His grandfather was part of the Boston Tea Party. Wow. And he, it's not surprising when you read the obit that he, you know, his big book is about wailing the wailing story of Moby Dick because he was on a wailing ship for four years. Wow. Apparently he did not like the captain. The captain was a bit of a tyrant. So he and someone else left the ship and then were kidnapped or they were captured by a tribe of cannibals apparently and was asked, you know, there are two tribes and he was made to choose which one is the better tribe and he paused and he answered to pee, which I guess was the right answer because they left him alive. And he was still, he was in captivity for four months before he was finally rescued. Wow. Is that wild? That is wild. So he, yeah, I mean, he knew what he, he wrote what he knew about because, you know, being on the wailing ship for four years, then he was, he was actually rescued by another wailing ship. So he knew something about wailing, I guess. And to tie all this back into genealogy, Jeanine says that her grandfather's middle name is Ishmael, named for one of the characters in Moby Dick. That's right. So that's how we can tie this all back to genealogy. Very cool. Very cool. Neat. Then we have Albert Honoré Charles de Monaco, who was born on the 13th of November in 1848 in Paris and died on the 26th of June, 1922, at the age of 73, again in Paris. And in case you didn't know, Albert, he was also known as Albert I, and he was the prince of Monaco. Of course, Monaco is a principality. It doesn't have kings and queens. The ruler of that principality is a prince, or a princess, I guess, plus possibly. But I don't think it's ever been ruled by a princess yet. His biography is totally in French. Albert I is the prince of Monaco from 1889 to 1922. Or the learned prince, Albert I, or the navigator prince, was prince of Monaco from 1899 to 1922. And so then the profile on wiki tree here goes through some of the genealogy of when he was born and married and whatnot. The Wikipedia article goes into more details about his life and what he did. And he was a learned prince, and he did study marine life. And in... Where was it here? I think I think it was around 1870. There it is. 1870 at the age of 22. He started... There was an oceanographic exploration that he spearheaded and was involved in lots of those studies and supports for that in France. So that's kind of neat that a head of state was involved and interested in science and advancing that. Then we have Edward Flanders, Rob Ricketts. Born on the 14th of May, 1897 in Chicago, and died 11th of May in 1948 at the age of 50. Almost... Well, wait a second. Yeah. Well, that was... That's very young. You've been talking about how young he is. Very young, yeah. And he was just three days shy of his 51st birthday. Commonly known as Ed Ricketts was an American marine biologist, an ecologist and a philosopher. So he wrote a book called Between the Pacific Tides, where it's actually a pioneering study of intertidal ecology. And he had an influence on the writer John Steinbeck, which is a collaboration. That picture... I mean, that could be a contemporary picture of someone right there. I know. Yeah. Yeah. He registered for the draft. He was good friends with John Steinbeck and Joseph Campbell, who wrote... What was it? Joseph Campbell. Hmm. Oh, I just lost it now. I've got a book of Steinbeck stuff up in one of the... Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, he's all... Anyways, he was very influential. But sadly, the reason he passed away was because of a car accident. He was driving along the railroad tracks on his way to dinner after his work day of work, and he was hit by a train. He lived for three days conscious some of the time, but he died on the May 11th. So that's why he died so young. It was a car accident. Car meets train. Train wins. Car loses. They put a life-size bust of him at the railway crossing. He wrote... Joseph Campbell wrote early collaborations of the hero... Something of darkness. Heart of darkness? Joseph Campbell. Yeah. I don't see that. Hero, masks of God, power and myth, the power of myth. Let me look and see other books. I thought it was Heart of Darkness. It was the big one that he was... I don't see that. No? Okay. But I can look. Here we are in myth. So people aren't answering, are they? Heart. Okay. Well, and the last profile of the week is, well, while someone finds out what book Joseph Campbell is most famous for... Joseph Conrad wrote Heart of Darkness. Okay. Conrad Campbell. Sorry. Okay. We have a question for you. Okay. What do you consider... Oops. What do you consider too young to die? Oh. When are people not considered to die? That's a good question. Well, I'm planning to live to be 100. So that's my... That's my cut-off. My dad wants to live to 108. 108. See, that'd be great. But I'm not going to be greedy. I'll be happy if I hit the three digits. I mean, I'll settle for the late 90s if I have to. But anyways, as if, you know, I'm not sure how much control we all have of that sort of thing in the end. But if we did, that's what I would choose. I'd like all my friends and relatives to last that long too. Because I don't want to say goodbye. So, survival Thomas Charles Thompson, born on the 5th of March, 1830, in Linlothgow, West Lothian, Scotland. Passed away on the 10th of March, 1882, at the age of 52. Again, young. In the same place. He was a historically significant person of Scotland. That's an interesting phrase. Historically significant person. He was educated first at Merchantson Castle School and then at the University of Edinburgh. I like how... Did Pip do this? It's nice that this one... Yeah, I'm looking at that. I'm thinking, oh, look at the tartan. Yeah, look at that. That's a neat tartan. Yeah, that's actually quite a nice one. We have it scrolled up. Pip is picking up... No, Russell Butler. I don't see Pip's name here. But that's nice when they show the tartan. He was a Scottish naturalist and is often called the father of modern oceanography and marine biology. One of the first marine biologists to describe life in the ocean depths. So, his work would have predated Jacques Yves Cousteau. He participated in several marine expeditions, including the famous worldwide expedition on the HMS Challenger, which embarked in 1772. Wait a second. That doesn't make sense. He was born 1830. Died 1882. It must have been 1882. That must be a typo, don't you think? Oh, we need to get that fixed up. Let's just look that down. The Challenger Expedition, let's open that up. Yes, it was 1872 to 1876. So, that should be an 1872, not a 1772 right there. So, anyone following along and home wants to make that edit? Of course, everyone's going to dive in. It was knighted on a return from the Challenger Expedition in 1876. Yeah, that would be a 104-year expedition that would have been worth a knighthood. Yeah. And a marble bust of him is in the University of Edinburgh, as well as a memorial window. Isn't that neat? I wonder how many Wiki Tree profiles have the profile person has a memorial window of them? Probably not that many, but that'd be kind of a neat free space page of all of the memorial windows of Wiki Tree people. Anyways, throughout his career, he was a botanist, physician, philosopher, historian, toxicologist, naturalist, physicist, anatomist, mathematician, minister, educational reformer, surgeon, physician. Looks like he did a bit of everything. That's a really good profile, except for the one little mistake. Yeah, and that's an easy one to do.  Anyways, very nicely done. So, there we have the profiles of the week. And again, I've taken a huge chunk of time. We love you, Greg. Oh, you're very kind. Oh, yeah.  Okay, I'm going to have to mute myself anyway to let Finnegan out. He's got excited about Julie. I don't think I can do that from here, but I'll look for him and see if I can find them. No, no, no. Can you do the photos? I'll let out Finnegan. You start the photo. That's what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to find the photos. Oh, okay. While Greg is off running around, lots of great conversations going on in the chat. You guys are always doing great things in the chat. It's always fun. I have to find, let's see, four days ago, school. All right, so let me get my screen shared for you guys. If I can do a share, share screen. There we go. And we'll go to the photos of the week.  Let's see. All right, photos of the week. And this week, it is school. So we have a really good picture here. Let me get my screen a bit bigger. That's a cool picture. Don't forget to vote these out, people. So the bottom of this photo is Mountain View Schools, 1917. The teacher on the left is my maternal grandmother, Nellie Long. Why didn't she look, oh, wait, is that the teacher? Or is that a, I can't tell which one is the teacher. Is that the lady in the white shirt? Who's looking off to the side? Yeah, she's like, okay, I don't really want to be here. That's a great picture, though. The only other person who might be the teacher is the one in the back row, something on her head. Yeah, but I can't tell. That's interesting. Obviously, a farming community. Yeah. Because Alexis Nelson, let's see, the boys are all in overalls. Yeah. That is really a cool picture. Well, that girl, the girl that I said, you know, could be the teacher. Look at the second from the end on the back row, that girl, like they're obviously sisters. They have to be sisters. They're almost identical. Oh, family resemblances. Oh, wow. And look at the wood burning stove, the little wood stove in there, too. Oh, man, yeah. Father attended this school. Stephen Town, New York became a home where his brother, Howard, and his wife raised 11 children. That's Joyce. Look at the desks. That's so cool. Yeah. Oh, let's see. My father, John Russell Miller's first teaching job, one room wooden schoolhouse, 1936. Ontario. And you can see they better have a wood burning stove in their room. Yeah. Interesting hats. Yeah. Where it came to school without shoes, no money for shoes. You imagine walking through the snow with no shoes to school? No. I don't think that. How could you do that? You couldn't do that. You'd end up having frostbite. Yeah. In the summer I can see it, but wow. That's interesting that those hats, Pat Miller, I would like to know what kind of community was this? And it was in Ontario. Ontario. Yeah, I was thinking of maybe out in Alberta where they have a big Ukrainian. Right, yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Okay, next one. Wait, no, there's a second one. That's another, that's a view from looking at the teacher. Oh, yeah. Beautiful stove. Look at that. Oh, there's the stove right there. Yeah. Yeah. With the stove pipe going up in the middle. Yeah. Yeah, there you are, Nate. Like, look at the copperwork or whatever along the side of the metalwork. Gorgeous. Let's see. We've got to see 1897 and shows the school at Mansel Lacey, Arafature. Grandparent Susan and James Porter were teachers and my grandma was born in the adjoining house. That's from Christine Frost. That's pretty cool. Let's see. Nah, let's see. Here's one from printed from a negative. I want to be able to do that. You know, you can do that with your computer somehow. Right, yeah. There's a program you can download where you can put the negative to the computer screen and then you take a picture with your phone. Have you seen that? I haven't seen that, but like most photo, like a photoshop type programs have a way of basically reversing the color so black becomes white and whatnot. So, and then she's added picked names to some of that. That's cool. Ruth, that's a funny. She named the shadow. Ruth Bean. Ruth Bean is the shadow in the front. Oh, that is hilarious. I didn't see that. The one taking the picture. Yes, that's funny. That is very funny. All right, so a photo from Cadman Elementary in San Diego. Let's see. We'll give that an upvote. Did we upvote all the rest? Gotta make sure we upvote them people. Yeah. Oh, and upvote the video too. The live cast. Janine Isleman. There's a kid there in Lederhosen. That's interesting photo. Cadman Elementary, San Diego. Classmate shared with me just recently. The pictures were taken in the late 1960s. Why was there a guy there in Lederhosen? That's interesting. Janine's in a chat. Tell us about that. Let's see. Kathleen Wagner. Thompson. Kathy in the lower right corner. 1966 Mission Secondary School Mission British Columbia, Canada. Upvote that. 1978. Wow. We did not dress like that in 1978 at my school. Oh, I was just thinking, this looks just like my yearbook pictures. This is my 65. Or what is that date in the bottom, Greg? It says 66. 65, 66. Grade nine. Oh, she rode motorbikes behind the school. Yeah, 66. That makes more sense. Yes. That's all we have. That is all we have. Oh, let's see. I'm going to leave it right here. Yeah. Look at that. That's very cool. Yeah. That's a pretty cool thing. The globe, the little globe at the bottom. Yeah. Very neat. Or we could leave it on the shadow of the Ruth Bean. That would be fun too. Anybody got any questions they'd like to ask as I'm trying to remove this? Primordial Rebel has a nice comment there. One major thing that I'm blown away about Wikitree and appreciate so much is the real history. In all my years in school, I never learned as much history as I have since joining Wikitree. That's a cool statement, Primordial. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you guys are joining me as I learn all about a lot of these profiles, especially the American profiles, you know, parts of history that I never studied. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The Janine says. Oh, sorry. Up. Yeah. Sorry. Where'd it go? There it goes. There's a boy in an outfit. Oh, stop it now. Well, it was a boy in an outfit was him showing his heritage. We were learning about our classmates, different heritage. How cool was that? Nice. That's very good. Go ahead. Okay. I was just going to show Mindy's reply to Primordial Rebel about history and her comment is it's more much more interesting if you're relating it to genealogy and your own ancestors. Yes. Yeah. And while Greg was going through those, I was like people are relating this to genealogy. Yeah. Do the video I like, please. Thank you as God, stop it. Okay. Okay. Okay. I'm not touching anything again. Yeah, I know. I know. Okay. So we finished the challenge this week for Matthew McConaughey. And do we know who's coming up in the next week? Mindy would know and would tell us right away, but... Mindy had a good post about Matthew McCona. Was it... Oh, no, Elon Musk's shadier characters. Oh, yes. That was very interesting. That was a good one, Mindy. That's funny. If you're interested in joining the challenge, always be sure to check out the G2G feed, because there's always a link at the top for the current challenge. What's going on? You can join the challenge. You can jump in on Discord. So check that out. Check us out next week, Saturday, same time, same place. I believe Sarah will be returning from her alligator whatever wrestling tournament she's been at. Yes. Mary Todd Allen says, I stumbled upon this video and am a member. It appears you're viewing school-related photos on WikiTree. A ton. So if you want to go to check out the photos to post a photo, check out G2G again. 52 weeks of photos, I think. You can also go to the very front home screen for WikiTree. The lower left hand, they'll have the photo of the week picture that we may have chosen or we may not have chosen. But underneath that, there's a link also to that, if you want to jump in. What is, join the Appalachia project? Uh-oh. I'll join. Well, new project. Yeah. I'm a brand new project. Wow. So now what, what, what states would that cover? Appalachia or Appalachia? Alabama, well, Alabama, they peter out. Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Virginia, West Virginia, a little bit Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, Maine, they go all the way up the east coast. Oh, wow. There's a really good book called The Albion Seed that talks about the migration patterns. And the people who settled in, along the Appalachians, were people from the borderlands of the UK, so north of Ireland, south of Scotland and north of England. And it's, it's Albion Seed, it's just great. It chronicles four different migrations. But this one is the one that settled Appalachia. And it was mainly those people who were kind of needing to get away because they wanted a better life. Is it because the landscape is similar to where they, yeah. And they liked the, the foothills and the mountains of the Appalachians. So yeah. Interesting.  So Lisa's saying that Tom Cruise is the next WikiTree challenge. Bringing, building out connections to him. And next week, I think I will be able to show off the latest updates to the Six Degrees app. I've got some, some cool stuff. And you had done a shout out. I don't know if you'd want to shout out here that you're working on a new app with people who might have adoption as one of their Yeah. Yeah. You'll see all, you'll see all that will, will be revealed next week or in a G2G post before next Saturday, but I will demonstrate here next week. Primordial rabble. If you look up the Appalachian Trail, you will see that it goes from DeLoniga, Georgia, all the way through the 100 mile wilderness in Maine. So yeah. Let's add geography to the things I've learned. That's great. Well, it's about time to go, Greg. And I think it is. I gotta go swim or something. Okay. Yeah. You have a great swim. Enjoy your week. Enjoy your week every day. Everyone. Thanks, Mindy, for the level of the Six Degrees app that you like it. We'll see you next week. We'll see you next