請行政院唐鳳鎮委員立委會長好 那本場次的專題演講我們現在很高興特別邀請到行政院的唐鳳鎮委員為我們演講今天的講題是台灣社會創新發展趨勢那首先呢我們就先請我們的影言人曹委員會呂元榮呂副委員長為我們影言有請呂副委員長謝謝謝謝我們的同仁給我親切的介紹唐鳳證務委員劉漢成學員長在那邊是我們的學員長還有我們的陳心妮劉冠廷兩位副學員長各位Fascas的好夥伴們大家午安 大家好好我想這樣首先我要代表曹委員會要來歡迎我們行政院唐鳳證務委員能夠在阿白忙的行程中間波隆來為我們Fascas來給我們做專題演講我想證務委員他是Minister Without Portfolio是我們國國的部長能夠我們邀請部長來給我們做專題演講可見我們政府對於我們海外青年非常的重視我可不可以邀請大家我們再次給我們唐鳳證務委員一個熱烈的掌聲歡迎我們證務委員這樣我們委員長說說你要來引言介紹一下唐鳳證務委員其實我覺得大家都在網路上都充分了解也看到了證務委員他在網路上或是在Facebook上等等有很多的介紹我僅就只能夠很短時間我簡單的給大家做一個說明唐鳳證務委員是我們臺灣第一位數位部長就是Digital Minister他是負責我們行政院要督導我們的數位經濟以及開發政府的發展創造行政院公共數位創新的空間簡單來說叫PDISPublic Digital Innovation and Space我想也就是說透過我們的數位技術和系統來輔助公務系統解決我們公眾的問題同時藉由強化我們政府部門和公民科技公民社團的對話那我想大家平常也都看到我們的唐鳳證務委員他早期不但是一個網際網路的專家是一個創業家同時他也一直在推動促進我們的公部門以及我們民間的各個民間的各個體系我們能夠來促使我們公部門資訊的透明化開放我們所有這些政府開放的資訊在這方面能夠來希望我們開發更具有包容性代表性以及開放了一個民主體制的平台那我想這是對於我們一個政府的革新或是說政府要能夠更契合我們的社會是具有非常非常大的貢獻那我也簡單也跟唐鳳證務委員報告我們的Fascan是由我們在美國加拿大一共有12個地區有29位我們的青年夥伴他們都長期在各地的僑社不但是協助政府在推動有關於我們的我們常說是我們的文化大使來做各項的這些介紹臺灣的軟實業工作同時也直接的要協助推動我們的公眾外交這工作外交就是指政府外交之外的這些部分public diplomacy我非常感謝我們這些我們的年輕夥伴他們有愛臺灣的心他們很樂意來跟我們的包括各地的我們的國際友人來分享臺灣的美好所以到今天我們特別也接這個機會我們喬偉會有邀請了在美國加拿大各地我們Fascar的年輕夥伴們第一次他們到臺灣來我們有一個很好的大家一個分享的課程跟大家來介紹當然我們非常精采的一個就是大家一直很期待就是我們的唐鳳政務委員我們的政委等一下要來對我們做分享那我也期許各位我們的年輕夥伴將來都能夠成為臺灣的親善大使能夠來協助我們推動臺灣的文化外交能夠讓世界看見臺灣讓臺灣走向世界各位好夥伴們我要再一次要邀請大家我們要用熱烈的掌聲我們一起Please join me to welcomeOur Digital Minister唐鳳謝謝各位謝謝呂副文長精采的影言那我們現在就歡迎唐鳳政務委員會我們進行今天的演講你可以在這邊講嗎 SureYou can be hereAnd I'm actually singing in EnglishSo please forgive meI'm speaking EnglishI hope that it's okay with you guysIt's okaySo as the Digital Ministerin charge ofEvergovernmentI'd like to welcome youand ask you to crowdsourcemy agendathat is to sayto determine what I would sayIf you do have a phonethat happens to work here in TaiwanPlease bring it outAnd if you don'tthen you can ask the people around youto help you filling the questionsSo the idea very simplyis to open your browserand go to this websiteslido.comAnd once you're in this websiteI will ask you to enter a codeYou don't have to enter this hashtagI just to this datethat's 704And after entering the three numbersI can press the cream buttonwhich is joinedI thinkAnd then once you're in theChantronThis is basically a crowdsourced devicefor people to ask me questionsanonymouslyI'm sure that if you havequestions to askyou wouldn't hesitate to raise your handBut sometimes it's betterif there is anonymousor pseudonymous wayfor people to raisemore challenging questionsand I want those kind of questionsSo if you would likeyou can say hi hereyou can enter whateveryou want to hear about hereand the newest questionswill arrive from the bottomAnd if you see the questionthat you would also like to askthen you can just press likeand the most like questionswill also appear herein this interfaceSo if you're inslido.comenter 7074enjoyingand you can now trysay hello or whateverand see whether thehere you goSo somebody said helloand if you would alsolook at thatSo that's pretty goodSo thenbased on the number of likesthe ones that has the most likesas you can seeone likes two likeswill appear on the topand then I will talk aboutwhatever thingsyou would like me to talk aboutand we have abouttwo hours I thinkand then I will justuse whatever time is neededto address your questionsand also keep in mindthat this is being live streamedbased on an angle of the cameraonly I am being live streamedso if you would like toask for a microphoneand have a moreback and forth face to facethis discussion please raise your handat any timeand then we canget a deeperor more real-time conversationand as you wishand if you guysrun out of questionsbefore two hoursthen we just terminate this earlybut that has never happenedso I don't think this will happenthis timeokso yeahdo you preferand if you are askinglike Chinese charactersif you are asking Mandarin你好then I willwith out JTSit is just to keep thelanguage diversityso yeahsurprisingly the topquestion at the momentis do you prefer iOSor Androidis there any reason whywhat phone do you useas a daily driverso I actuallyhave a range of devicesas a digital ministerthis morning actuallywe were just talking aboutthen the healthcare cardyou perhaps knowthat we have a Medicarecard herethe universal Medicareand the cardthe EID cardhas served usreally wellfor the past 15 yearsbut now we'recollectively reimaginingthe possibilityfor next 15 yearsso people were talkingabout a lot of thingslike buildingthe card directlyinto the watchinto the phoneand then perhapsyou knowusingthere's peopleeven mentioning quantumcomputersbut there's also peopletalking about the needfor peoplewho are usingnon-smartphonesfor people who areelders who arepeople who arevery youngand their parentsmaybe in theirphone they have to carrylike threevirtual cards oftheir three kidsand things like thisthere's a varietyof differentuse casesonce you imaginea health cardthat is completelydigitized firstyou have tokeep the existing cardbut then you alsohave to adaptto the varioususageso I do havethis Apple Watch hereand youhavethe iPhonethat goes with itbut I alsohavethis Androidphonewhich you willnotice thatusuallyonly grandparentsusethatthis iswhat we callhereXiao Qin Jito showyourfeelialloyaltyso thatyou canprovide itbut I dofind itvery usefulbecausethe phoneand then of courseiPadand in myMacbookbut back intoexecutiveum because for VRI also usewindows and Linux as wellso as thedigital ministryis very importantfor me tonot restrictmy useexperienceto that oneof this likehyperadvancedor you knowa bubbleof digital usagebecause whilein Taiwanthere's like80%almost 90%ofmobile penetrationthat peoplemobile phonea lotthey donot necessarilyuse it forall servicesactual servicesthat governmentprovideeven thoughlike 90%ofcritical servicesandlikefiling tagsand thingslike thatwe doofferanternateable versionbutactuallyonly about 60or 70%of peopleactuallyuse themmany peopleof differentoperating systemsas wellof different age groupsso thatI canwhen we doa new servicelike wecollectivelyredesignour tax homeexperiencethis yearwe canmake surethatmy personalempathycanwork with peoplewith differentage rangesas wellas withdifferentoperating systemsso thatwas thewhy are you wearingyour SDG pins todayand how does the ROC governmentrelate her SDG agendawith this usethis is an excellent questionso SDGI'm sure thatyou know more about SDGthan I doperhapsit's 17 sustainabledevelopment goalsit is a newuniversal religionand whateverspiritualitypracticeyou can also practiceSDG becauseafter a consultationwith more thanone million people worldwidethe SDGsare knownfor itscoherencethe idea hereis very simplythatany goor any subgothat you workthe united nationhas a very lengthyprocessof involvingall the major groupsinsuring thatwhateverthing that you workdecide to work onit will not workagainstthe othermajor SDG goalsand that isthis internal coherencethat isthe greatest thingabout the SDGthat meanspeople who workon NPOwork on volunteerprogramsworking onsocial enterprisesworking onthere'senvironmentalprotection groupswhateveryour ambitionyou can workin a kindofovervieweffectto see thathow yourimpactimpact othergroupswithoutworryingabout thatyourworkis detrimentalto other groupswhereyou don'thavean English translationyetit's called social innovationaction planandit's going to beapprovedI thinka couple of weeksfrom nowand it's afive year planthat basicallysayssomethingI thinkthatsit's a veryfundamentalthat is to saythe SDJ iscollectivelydone andconsultedwithall the people經營經營的問題和整個程序從傳統貨幣到傳統貿易貿易貿易貿易貿易貿易和其他不同的角度其中一種是如果政府只能在傳統貿易貿易貿易貿易貿易貿易和國際貿易貿易貿易和歐洲貿易貿易我們只能在2030年代完成我認為少於一八或其他小部分的貿易貿易所以我認為主要經營經營經營的訊息是關於 private sector和 civil society是關於人們像你人們的時間工作在公司但你會看到你的社交媒體你的家人你的社交媒體你的社交媒體你的社交媒體這些社交媒體現在是主要經營經營我們的總統Premier和很多其他重要的人現在我認識最重要的事情是公共活動和開放新的想法開放新的想法是一個想法可能你現在是已經成功了但其實是新的在台灣只能在2014年成為國際貿易貿易貿易之前政府經常自己作為這個東西作為不同的社交可以是右手可以是國際貿易和發展可以是PenguinPengbu這裡因為政府經常作為保護人們和公共活動政府作為駕駛經常作為保護人們作為保護公共活動如果大家在社交是自己所作為保護政府要保護自己如果有這條公共活動可以是我們真的需要一個代表從國內或國內去組織他們然後人們變得非常新鮮所以在各種組織中各種組織的力量和各種組織的數量坦白說但國內可以自然地集中所以我們現在在問各種組織的問題和所謂的國內開放的開始從2014年開始我們在問我們要如何組織我們要如何組織我們要如何組織我們要認識因為人們都在組織他們所以我們要問所以我們要有不同的位置然後我們問為什麼我們有不同的位置如果人們有不同的位置在不同的位置我們就要確保那些位置是 well-deliberated那些位置是 spread to everywhere in Taiwan然後根據那些位置我們就要問誰能來得及解決那些位置是 work for everyone所以這兩個很不同的問題是什麼是 common values什麼是解決是 work for everyone那些人在 co-op sector例如 家人 聯合人們在 MPO sector例如 兩者社交媒體在公司中例如 李瑞在這類的 multi-stakeholder model在過去的20年所以在台灣我們現在在做我們在學習這些人的學習然後我們基本上重複我們的工作在 co-sectoral國際公司中進行這類的行動因此在許多社交新的活動在台灣我們現在開始看到不同的 SDG Marks提供哪一部分 SDG that is working on我們當然也有我們的參加國際報告但我們現在也在做公司 Numbers我們也聚會在公司進行這個行動當代之下我們可以和他們交戒我們在公司於四個時代我們可以抽資在公司明確地我們可以恢復這東西因為但我們知道談起我們經濟的新發展然後和而於其他外出的規制以及政府在在向經濟基金的資金進行的重點如何調查如何建立這些領域以及如何成為做捐款行動或其他資料資訊這些領域有一個開放的領域讓大家問大家問可以問是否有任何的影響以及有任何的影響例如,這是社會家庭如何將這些事情進行以及有真實的談判與其他人在關注這件事我想在這件事中,台灣是蠻前途的因為,蔡總統在她的總統領域中提出了這個想法在網路上,或是在網路上,我認為是對的所以,我們可以保證很多人,如果他們沒有 access to broadband這是政府的錯誤所以,我們有一個特別的預算讓大家確保,所有人 who want broadband access有 broadband access所以,很多資訊我們可以在網路上寫和在社交公司的社交公司社會家庭地位地面有社會家庭以及社交公司的建議然後,我們可以很快地回答,每個星期我們有這個社交新興建築在這裡寫這個建議,這是很多人的視角是人們在看電影那是西安威尔我們叫西安威尼他們 turn out to be very good artists這是 collectively decorated in a way that combines all those different forces這個空間是特別的 in that the policythe rules for using this spaceare crowdsourced所以人們說at that timeover 100 social innovators說 this has to open until 11pmSo it opens until 11pmit has to have a kitchenit has to have a cafeit needs a resident chefso we have a resident chefand they say that the ministryhas to be here every WednesdaySo I'm here actually every Wednesdayfrom 10am to 10pmand then even for local social innovatorsas I saidwhen they're surfacing some local communityand issuesfor example this is in Hualienthen we use video conferenceto get even more rural placeslike Taidong into the discussionand then in Taipeiin the social innovation labmore than 12 different ministriesrelated to social innovationthey're here also in a remotekind of way to look at issuesthat's brought to the tableand I always tour around Taiwanand share this kind of consultation meetingsbut the people here in Taipeithey just contributethrough this teleconference in real timeand so this is basicallybecause Taiwan's geographywe can actually do this problemso we just go to indigenous areasto rural areasand make sure that everything everybody sayssafely in their own communityand we can surface into this nationalepetition and e-consultation platformfor the work of the SDGsthat's across all the different ministriesso that's our basic ideainstead of telling the different communitiesand volunteer groups what to dowe just make sure that we meet themfrequently enoughso that we can surface what they're doingnation-wide as well as worldwideand make sure that there's full visibilityof what everybody's doingand making sure that they collectivelyform this sort of innovationthat is neededto address the common valuesthat people identifythrough this kind of consultation meetingso this is like a very high level overviewbut that's the basic ideaand so after answering this questionI would like to take my jacket offpretty hot hereand you've already saw the SDGPanyway so for fear of its purposeso how does Taiwan proceedinternational mediaand how can we improveand maintain perceptionswell this is a very deep questionI personallyI advocate this ideaof warm powerthere is a Facebook groupjust called Taiwan warm powerthat is maintainedI think by quite a fewyoung,anonymousministrial foreign affairspublic servicebut the basic ideais to propose this ideaof Taiwan's common valuethat is democracyand freedomand because our generationlike I'm 37 nowI know pretty oldbut people who are older than mewe all remember the martial law erawell people younger than usthey don't remember the martial law era anymoreas long as the people around herestill remember the martial law erathe absolute freedom of speechabsolute freedom of assemblyand so onthose are core valuesso while in older democraticor older republicsthose are seen sometimesas instrumental valueslike they've been having itfor a whilebut in Taiwanthat's actually pretty newand it coincideswith the event of the internetthe popularizationof the internetaround 1994-95coincides with the firstpresidential election in 1996and so in many people'smindinternet and democracyin Taiwanthey're not two thingsthey're one and the same thingso in our generationwe basically seelet's seerightso basically what we're thinkinglike back when we occupied parliamentfor 22 daysis that internet and democracythese are not two kinds of peopleit's not like people working techworking internet culturein new media or whateverand people working ingovernanceand you knowwhat we just said about democracyand consultationand things like thatin older republicsand older democraciesthose tends to betwo different kinds of peoplebut because of the factthat Taiwan just becamea place where you can practice democracyfor only 30 yearsactually in this full formthe people who work on democracyand people who work on internetand new mediaand things like thatthey're actually the same kind of peopleand so when we seea large-scalecrowd-sourced demonstrationlike thiswe see people fromall the different fields togetherand sharing the valueof democracyand we don't seethe political apathyor democratic apathyin other countrieswhere very much anewly reborn democracythat's still very much focusedon the possibilitiesof how technologyand the various different disciplinescan contribute to democracyand so when I saidthis is a demonstrationI don't meanthat it is a protestit is pretty thoroughlynot violentit is a demonstrationit is a demohow we can useICTand otherrelated technologyusing consultationand that'sto collectivelyorganize, mobilizemore than half a millionpeople on the streetand many more onlineso that over the courseof 22 dayswhen people wantto talk aboutevery single aspectof the CSSTAthe cross-straitserviceand trade agreementpeople can actuallygo into itvery deeplyand emergewith a consensusthat's more convergentevery dayand this runs counteractuallyinto manyexpectationsof democracyrightwhen we runconsultations like thisusingeither face to faceor internetor probably hereor whateverpeople expectpeople tobe divisiveto be polarizedand giventhe recentelectionsin major countiesmaybe getpeople tobe movedmore apartfrom each otherbut the demonstrationwas aboutif you designthe space just rightit's fullyin a safe spacewithoutpossibilityof disruptingthe process itselfthat actuallyover the courseof a month or sopeople actuallyconvergeon consensusstatementspeople spendmore timeagreeingwith each otherand findingthe common valuesthat they haverather thanbeing moreapartof coursethat requirescarefuldesignof the onlineoffline spaceskindofcollective decisionmaking processand so this is mymainworkand it coincideswithstichu 17which is aboutusing open dataand accountabilityand consultation methodsto make surethat people canfind the common valuestogetherand so this isan angleI think notlikeit's notlike comparedto foodor tourismit's notat a momentat the mostprominent ideapeople have abouthavingthis kind ofopen governmentand democracyinnovationsfor quite some timeand peopleI think afterconstitutional courtsruling of themarriage equalityas well asthe new referendumactlater this yearthere's moreinternationalcoverageabout this newdemocraticprocessthat's howit's going throughespeciallyit's verydifferentand uniqueamong ourAsiandemocracyand progressseem to beintentioned byin Taiwanreinforcing each otherso that isI think one ofthe key messageswe want togive out toto the mediaand alsothat Taiwanknows howis it liketo bea dictatorshipand thenbecominga democracyunderthreatsfromdictatorshipsand thenwe cangive outthis kindofthe otherpeople nearbyasdigital ministerhow do yousee technologydevelopingand fittinginto thecultureI havea poem forthatso Ireada poem foryouand thenwe willexpond a littlebit on thepoemso thepoemis reallya prayerit is a prayerthat Iseeinternetof thingslet's make itan internetof beingswhen weseevirtual realitylet's make ita sharedrealitywhen weseemachine learninglet's make itcollaborativelearningwhen weseeuser experiencelet's make itabouthuman experienceand whenwe hearthat asingularityis hereso thethe prayerit'sI hopepretty selfexplanatorybut theidea verysimply putis thattechnology servesthe societynot the otherway aroundthe societylong asthat werecognize thereis a pluralityof peopleof differentideasof differentthoughtsof differenthabits ifthis diversityand inclusiveempathyis introducedthrough technologythat the technologyhelps the societyto recognize itselfand become more aware of itselfif insteadthe technology comesand just shares this ideathat only one part of peopleget to benefitfrom the technologythe technologistusually in the capitalistthen it has the potentialof dividing the society apartand basically havingpeople separating itselfinto the havesand have notswhen a new technologyarrivesso as the digital ministerin charge ofdigital relatedpoliciesTaywan does somethingthat is quiteunique reallyamongAsian countriesfor examplewhen the machine learningthis generationof apartificial intelligencearrivesthe first thingthat we think aboutis how we canmake aAI computingclusterthat is accessiblefree of chargeto studentsof all different levelsno matterwhere they arein Taiwanif they don'thave a tabletof homeif they don'thave accessto the rightcurriculumthings like thatwe workwith multinationalsbut alsowithlarge civilsociety organizationslike Mozillato make surethatnot onlymenderingspeaking peopleEnglishspeaking peoplein Taiwanhave accessto machine learningtoolsindigenouslanguagesand nationsand sothe ideais thatwhen thetechnology arrivesit has every potentialto shape thesocietyso that peoplewho conformto some mainstreamvaluessome mainstreamlanguagesor mainstreamplaces of accesshave themost benefitbut we canstart by sayingthere isthis differentsocietythere's differentindigenous nationsthey havethe environmenthow can weuse machine learningand othervarious technologiesto help furthertheiridentityand furthertheiruniquenessinstead of askingthem to conformto someethnic wayof relatingto technologyand I thinkthis emphasison diversityand onreinforcingthe solidaritybetween existingsocial groupsinstead of tearingtheir apartI thinkis reallyuniqueherein Taiwanone of the examplesI like totalk aboutis thatlike in manyother placeswe are now alsoconsideringrolling outautonomous vehiclesor self-driving vehiclesbut whilein many casesin many statesin the U.S.for examplethey start withthe one thathas the mosteconomic advantagelong-haul trucksor very fastvans and things like thatwhat we startto do hereactually in partnershipwith1990media labin the social innovationcentreis this tricyclethey call itselfthepursuasive electricvehicleor PEVsand this is ademonstrationof AIpines collective intelligencethe ideavery simply putis that theseopen sourcevery slowtricyclesthey're herein Taipei cityand they just roamthe roadusing the sameride of roadas pedestriansbecause they'reif they runinto a buildingor peopleno harmis being donereallyand they basicallyexperimenthow the cityreceives thisnew speciesso it's likehow dogscomeco-domesticatewith human beingsand thenit let usestablish newnormsof how peoplewant to interactwith this kindof newtricyclesand alsoengage elderpeopleand peopleby some potsof flowersand something like thatput it into the basketand sit on itand just drive it homeand maybe with the fleethave two moretricycles carryingmore and more luggageand things like thatso it solves the social namebut it is the social namethat is not drivenin a top-down fashionbut it's actually servicingthe actual social nameby the communityand so using this kindof safe and participatorydesignwhat we're trying to dois that we not onlylet the AIunderstand the human society morebut we also letthe human societyunderstandhow the AIis looking atthe streetand things like thatso it's justa very small examplebut it illustratesthe ideaof the sandboxthat like childrenplaying the sandboxwe want toget the confidenceand the trustand solidaritybetween the technologistand the peoplewho are going tobenefit from the technologyinstead of havingone technologylike just dominatingthe social discourseand the societyso how is thelike workingas the digital ministerwhat is your day likethanks for askingit depends on whichday of the week it isso when I becomethe digital ministera year and a half agothere's three preconditionsthat are setas kind ofground rulesof the cabinetworking with meI often saythat I workwith TaiwanI'm not workingfor Taiwanbecause I'm an anarchistI'm a conservative anarchistmy idea ofpolitical systemwhichthat there isno hierarchical controland there's nocommandingrelationshipbetween peopleof course I maynot see itin mylifetimerightyesthe environmentwould liketo addthat isan excellentobservationwe areworking on itactuallydo youknowthatif theplastic strawspeople arelooking alternativeyou canuse itfor up forfour hoursas a strawwithout actuallygettingrightso nowyou knowit's actuallya veryinnovativestrawalternativethat we'reexploringbut in anycase yessoI'mworkingas a digital ministerI havethree preconditionsthat thefirst oneas I saidis thatyou shouldKVISthere's abouttwenty-onefull timersand aboutthirty-fourthe internsin my officebut theyall decidewhat theywant to doand it'svery importantthat Idon'tstay up totoo lateI usuallyjust leavethe administrationbuildingaroundfive p.m.or six p.m.and sothat peopledon't feelin the ministryofforeverin any casethat's the first thingis thatI don't take commandand I don't give commandI work byvoluntaryassociationthat's the first thingthe second thingis thatI don't haveto workin a single buildingso everymondayI dowork inthe administrationbecause that isthe ministerlevelmeetingwith theprimiabut everyspitetheinthe FontNo ScateTWENoNo KomTWÉtbr Schulepart我們有時間來做這個工作我們有一個有時間的事就是有一個有幾位有趣的朋友每個星期九我們也會一起吃飯還有一個有趣的 local civic technology group叫Gov Zero GZero V那是星期五星期三是一個Cabinet meeting不是只是Premiere但是還有不同的Cabinet members還有Science and Technology policy meetings所以通常是在科技建築中設置的所以星期天是常常會有合作的合作的會議是非常有趣的就是很多人的訊息例如我們在我們E-Petition platform有個設計提供一個新的想法但是是一個不太好的想法基本上,我们的设计器是特别厉害的使用的,我认为这是一个正确的传辑而且,在任何情况下,他真的意味着很难使用的Mac和Linux因为Windows的版本是不同的Mac和Linux的版本而Mac和Linux的版本真的没有那么差而不仅仅仅仅看着这两百个人在我们的设计器之中,每个设计器都在我们叫做非常传辑的设计器我们有一个设计器就是一群人在每一个文件中就像是一个媒体的设计器和一个设计器的设计器和一个设计器的设计器那些设计器的设计器或是POs他们在设计器中在使用设计器或使用设计器的设计器直接与设计器联系那些设计器从政府的设计器就设计了一个设计器在第一三十六个小时说, whomever complains关于设计器的设计器就会有设计器的设计器到我们的设计中在明天我们就用设计器设计器的设计器和设计器的设计器设计器的设计器在设计器的设计器就会有设计器设计器的设计器在设计器的设计器就会有设计器的设计器或者什么的我们就保持我们不谈谈设计器的设计器我们就直接发现什么需要做然后我们就联系和设计器的设计器和设计器的设计器和设计器的设计器与设计器的设计器与设计器的设计器在这一天我们就在联系的设计中来到我们的设计就是我们的设计所以每天我们的设计 have to dois to take screenshotsand then one thirdof the internsjust look at the screenshotsand offer their expertisein javascript or in CSSor in whateverweb technologiesand then soinstead of just offeringcomplaintsthey offer giftsto various ministrieslike if you just changethose three lineseverybody will be so much betterso that is the basic ideawe connect the youthwith the ministriesas equalsas partnersthey are notlike doing only the thingsthat the ministriesasking them to dothey exploratorilyfind what's wrongand what could be betterwith the servicesand work with the PSto suggest thingsthat could have worked betterand then it's just incorporatedinto the ministry'sservices and websitesso that is our main ideathe idea is that tojust offer what's going onwhat's really going onwith the governmentfor everybody to seeand for people who haveany ideas for improvementfor people who complainthe loudestto thein consultation meetingsso that's my secondpreconditionso I work anywhereand work with the peopleinstead of for the peopleand the third thingbeyond not issuingor taking commandand working everywhereworking with the peopleis thisI think I'm the onlyminister level personin the worlddoing this nowis the idea ofradical transparencyso basicallyall the public talkthat I givefor example it's nowbeing live streamedbut it could be recordedand then published afterwardsunder a creativecommon licensebut even internal meetingsthat I chairI also publishfor recordfor everybody to seeand this takesactually enormouscouragefor especiallycareer public servantsto understandthat everythingthat they sayeven if it'sjust at a drafting stageonly at the idea stageis publishedfor the entire worldto seeand the reasonwhy we're doing thisand we're not doing itviolentlyit's not like we'redoing it in a live streamedfashionwe take a fulltext recordof all the meetingsthat I chairand I send thiscollectivelyeditable documentfor everybodyand they haveten working daysthat's two weeksto edit awayall the nonprofessionalor noncivilizedpartsthat they utteredand so it's not justpeoplelisten tobut more deeplyafterwordsby editingthis meetingrecordtogetherbut I also getmany useful suggestionsjust by peoplewho look at those transcriptsand thenhave a much better ideaofwhat the governmentis thinkingand surprisinglyafter a yearis runningwith thisradical transparencythe feedback I getfrom the careerpublic servantis thatit actually makesthem more innovativeand more risk takingrather than morerisk averseand conservativeand the reasonthey can always blame meif things go wrongbecause I'm the only persondoing thisradical transparencystuffso ifif things go wrongit's always my faultbut if things go rightthey get a full creditbecause for careerpublic servantsmany of theirideas are pretty goodbut the ministersif things go rightthe ministerusually take the creditand if things go wrongor the thingsdon't fitthe minister's ideathen the societydoesn't even knowthat the careerpublic servanthas such innovationsin the first placebut by publicpublishing everythingto the publicpeople seethat the careerpublic servantsare actuallyfull of innovative ideasand if things go wrongI can absorb the blameso we actuallyget a lotof more risk takingbehaviorfrom the careerpublic servicebased onmy thirdpreconditionof workinggovernmentcollectionand usageof datahas becomehot topicin the USAit's about timeas the ministerisbig dataso wehave thisslitethat talksabout thisso thenumberonebocktrainis aboutdata agencyso wesee datanot asanassetto be boughtand soldand borrowedbecause it'snot a physicalassetthe metaphorjust doesn'tassetwe see itas a relationif you storeyour datafor example in themedicare databaseor on yourcottor in thefutureyour owndeviceor whateverall thisrepresents trustall thisrepresents acontinuingrelationshipbetween youand thedata beingcollected,data beingprocessedand the data beingusedand the ideait's beingprocessedand being usedin a waythat isproportionalto their expectationof their trustto the peopleso likein today'sconsultation meetingcollaboration meetingabout themedicare cardthere's many peoplewho saythat they trusttheir phoneand theirfingerprintstore intheir phonessecureenclavemore thanthe cloudso that'ssomething that weknowbecause on the physical carmaybe it's ten years old photobut then they preferthat the photois stored locallyon their phoneinstead of on adatabasethat could be usedin some other uselikeI don't knowface identification amongthe crowdor things like thatso they wantto beaccountedto governmentto be accountablefor its useand the accountabilityis arelationship againit entailswhat we heartranslate as winsso people cantranslateit alsotranslate asdownsthe governmentagencieswho stores the datashould voluntarilyandproactivelylet thecitizens knowhow the datais being usedand maintainedand being keptup to dateand themechanism itselfis alsowhat we callcursorwhich meansthat it keepsan automaticlog of howthe datais being usedwho is being使койofurasshould beinthe lineof thisdata agencyprincipalwe do seethat peoplewho want to useprivate data for morehelermanandcustomized servicebut thisis very differentfrom thispubliccollaborationbased on possibil frinidadand thetwospheresto overlapand sothe ideais that研究研究研究研究研究的方式只是要用研究研究研究研究的方式確保研究研究研究的方式並非只能夠重召研究研究研究的方式研究研究研究的方式是一種我們基礎的方式在建立我們的國際資料保護我們會在國際資料保護通過國際資料保護在國防所有時候毋淇淑白在未來十一天我們的國際資料保護我們會再進一步拍攝各種組織的研究家人想用研究研究研究的方式以及國際資料保護的社會那在原投的為由對所有不同的問題如果大家有得改進關係那些資料,那些資料的規律會有最高能量的資料會影響別人的會然後你不僅會有一種黑暗的偏見的 profile一個人5 年前而使用它作為一個擔憂的政策的政策等等我們比較喜歡有關貿易的關係所以那是我們在台灣的貿易經濟的方向有哪些傳統的貿易經濟的跟技術之間的關係哇 怎麼開始呢台灣名字在4000年前澳大利亞人人們學習了尤其是文化和新加坡這就是台灣的思維我常常想到這個印度人像是中國伴奏的想法是在海洋它是在網路基礎的與科技之間的關聯而不必靠人和科技而是靠人和科技而不必靠人和科技所以如果我能說到台灣的傳統的價值我會常常想到阿塔亞的人你會去明天去和各種國家的國家這跟我們有關各種人的關係所以我曾經在新加坡參加過各種不同的市場參加過各種不同的市場這很重要我個人來說在我們股票的股票不是只是股票和股票但還有一個在我們股票的股票之中和很多人在那裡我覺得這反映了我們不是在談論的關係與社會和技術而是可以看得到一種負面的方式那些不需要SDGs那些不需要SDGs那些不需要SDGs那些不需要SDGs那些不需要SDGs那些很重要我們有一個主席還有一個教授可以幫我們用這些技術的方式但當然還有其他方式我覺得我們看到的主要的在公關議題我個人的是這個想法在台灣人並且我們很會觀念我們我們很想我們談談我們想我們想我們想我們想我們想我們想我們想但是我們在這裏反映了一些反映所以我們很快就將這裏反映而這就是我們在台灣看到的這裏的反應在個人體驗上我們要設定空間讓人們能夠在社會中和人們的心情中和人們的心情中能夠在社會中和人們的心情中能夠在社會中和人們的心情中能夠在社會中是一個很好的比賽人們會喜歡參與其實會努力地去參與提出更多的想法能夠影響更多人在社會中所以我想這個想法是指著不同的意大利這個意大利這就是主要的令開放政府在台灣很容易進行但是當然還有更多的傳統的價值是指虛擬關係而不是性格的關係而是性格的關係或我們會叫做技術像是性格的關係等等我們現在進行一個新的模式價值社會的意大利和人們的個人體驗會變成我們需要做到的事或至少進行的策略就是說無論某些某些政策或者什麼人們都應該做到同樣的機會設定社會而不是使用使用使用是很不同從人們的經驗如果我進行這裡走從雲邊進行就只能做30分鐘的表示我不會讓人們那麼多所以我走去轉這些 als使用投資投資有些 conflict with the existing narratives of dominance and of hierarchy and of seniority但我相信 the newer generation is now much more tolerant and much more diverse和更能够参与 in a much more willing to engage in a non-traditional wedding这是一个最有趣的设计 that I'm overseeing at this time有很多的设计 but let me see if there's something that I can share within five minutes or so这里有一个设计叫Airbox AIRBOX它是一个设计从台湾的新的社会主要的设计是GNV临时空无关色网它可能是用适的设计为G0VG0V是一个设计的动作它仍然很强烈的设计它看着所有的政府网站和设计找到一个没用的设计或者找到一个没用的设计例如,例如,GNV临时空无关色网你会找到这个设计然后人们会设计一个转换的网站就叫LY.G0V.TWGNV临时空无关色网就叫LY.G0V.TW你会找到一个没用的设计你不需要搜索它然后它就试试什么是GNV临时空无关色网的设计例如,设计的设计是GNV临时空无关色网的设计我们看到了很多GNV临时空无关色网的设计它变成了不同的设计就是政府可以做的这是一个很重要的设计是一个临时空无关色网的设计所以当我发送一个设计就是GNV临时空无关色网的设计然后就有GNV临时空无关色网的设计就是美国,IT,什么的这些不同的人在国际政府和国际政府的设计里在中国的设计里是一件非常重要的事件而在国际政府有我们的设计是一件非常重要的事件它不用逮捻它是 key 缺乏信息它是一个很重要的事情它是个非常重要的事情你看,这是一个很重要的事情但是则在国际政府在国际政府设计里其实它就是一个很重要的事情但是在国际政府在国际政府它是一个非常重要的事情在家中和在學校中有些學生就像台北市用它作為學校的學習方法而且在2000年代學生們站在台灣在真正的時間他們只能觀察人類的行動以及環境他們的資料和各種其他資料都可以用空氣的資料在台灣的所有資料都沒有政府在任何方式這很重要在我們的工作因為很少人尤其在歷史上政府會讓這個事情發生歷史上的抗爭經常告訴我是否有少許政治、技術但更多時候當人們去200個不同的地區不是2000個只是20個他們可能會通訊給他們跟他們說不然會說不然會說不然會說不然會說不然會說不然會說不然會說不然會說不然會說不然會說不然會說不然會說不然會說不然會說希望這個 Поal death還未成功所以但是在台灣基本上我們不善待川志政黨我們要支持川志政黨我們就加入所以像夫婦的力度如果不希望這個無萊us我們就會進入這種無萊us所以所以我信呼一位最新 正面的會參加一點叫做丒費我們做保護也就是國際租金萬歲貨也叫予 Every great因為是是我們比較關注的但是你也知道在資料中的計劃也有激化和取消資料有很多不同的資料任何資料在自然的環境中並非關注的資料是非常重要的在《IOT4PublicGood》中我們要在於要求公園園幫助製造更多精彩的精彩的但仍然是很便宜的這些人的資料而且我們也提供了三個非常重要的通訊給這些人的號碼這是非常重要的因為我們也在職業社群上也在職業社群上也在職業社群上也在職業社群上也在職業社群上也在職業社群上也在職業社群上因為職業社群最新的號碼並沒有改善但在任何情況下職業社群的號碼例如YOTA也在職業社群上所以他們會有更多的優勢所以人們不會當選舉開始他們會自行改善資料那會很差所以這個優勢我覺得也很重要在保護大家所以最主要是我們把所有的東西進入職業社群中心在職業社群中心然後我們會獲得那些套餐給別人然後請求職業社群的套餐等等所以人們可以在職業社群中心和在職業社群和在職業社群中心進入職業社群中心我們在職業社群中心做了什麼政府應該做的就是一個優勢的優勢讓大家能夠優勢職業社群的套餐是為職業社群我覺得這是我最興奮的一件事如果你問這個問題我會說我最興奮的一件事我正在在職業社群中心叫做職業社群的套餐是現在的我們有機會到Nexia但Nexia我們再次有100個職業社群是在職業社群中心在職業社群中心在職業社群中心我們選擇了5個職業社群再次在這個想法中的社會影響沒有職業社群的金錢他們這5個職業社群獲得了這張美麗的套餐這張套餐的套餐他們的職業他們的工作他們的職業他們的職業等等他們的主要價值是他們的 top 5 team要被創辦回到職業社群中心他們會獲得政治貿易他們的資助他們的工作他們會獲得職業社群在Nexia還有台灣的水管職員叫做強舊水管我認為英文名字是水管職員所以水管職員用了技術技術去學習職業的職業人員學會的職業人員來聽聽職業的職業的尤其是職業的60多個職業的職業的他們如果他們聽聽職業的職業的職業的三年才能完成一項所以新的職業可以兩個三年前才能得到當然這也是很好的資料尤其是那它的短短之后 经济改变是大家现在都在习惯所以他们现在就在问他们有很多资料他们问了人们计较从世界各地在计较计较的计较计计划他们学习的计较他们继续继续继续继续 继续继续继续继续 继续继续继续继续 继续继续继续继续 继续继续他们继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续继续Fork is called forking democracyand this is a very geeky termFork is a computer science termit basically saysif you see something that has a traditionthat goes like thissometimes you don't want it to go to the same directionsometimes you want to forktake it into a different directionbut this is not refusingthis is not taking awaythis is certainly not bomb throwing anarchistthis is basically sayingwe respect the tradition asyes but we would like to innovateon a different anglelike using machine learningin addition to professionalsto address worker leakageor to have the local indigenous wisdomin addition to the unethnic wayto discover how to do machine translationand other speech recognition and stuffso having this room for people to innovateto fork the government and the democracyand work out a new wayand most of the time they failbut we celebrate failure by encouraging peopleto share post mortemsso many of these don't go anywherethey go nowherebut sometimes there is a valid wayand then my main work is just to workas kind of a facilitating personto provide a space to convincethe public service herethat they really canleave away their fear and uncertaintyand doubtand don't have to just partwith this not invented here syndromeand allow the civil societyand the private sectorto collaboratively determinewhat we're going to doto further the sustainable development goalsand to further our democracyso this idea of forking and merging democracyI think that's my main working methodand this is really the only methodin the ministry who never issue or take commandyou can only work with suggestionsso basically the idea is to make surethat everybody know what this part is aboutis radical transparencyby providing space and sufficient data informationfor social innovationand by making sure that the participation officesin every ministry is readyto incorporate better ideasto not think about it as losing facesso I'd rather welcome the civic innovationsI think that is the TODRof my work is just forkingand merging democracyand if you want an even shorter versionI would defer to President Tsaiwho said in her inauguration speechlike before democracy in Taiwanmeans a competitiona conflict between two different sides of the valuebut from now onshe would like to invite everybodyto join democracy as a conversationbetween a diversity of valuesso from conflictto conversation among diverse valuesI think that is the most TODRthat we can offerand thanks toPresident Tsai's inauguration speechfor this kind of ideaso it is not my legacyI'm mostly just a facilitating persona space for this kind ofinnovation to happenand leave their own legacybut I really care about my legacyso most of us are enteringor in collegewhat would be the best piece of adviceyou can give based on your experiencesor perhaps the best advice I've receivedI'm going to be very biasedbecause I've never beenenrolled in a collegeI've never been too senior highI made junior high schooltrompe outI started my first starwhen I was 15 years oldwhen I was second yearI just dropped out of junior highafter a whileso asking college advice from meit ismaybe I can offer anoutside this viewbecause after I dropped outfrom junior highI always viewed the universityand college as resourceswhenever I want to embark on a new projectI dropped out not because I can't fit inwith the junior high peopleor that I don't want tobe educatedbut rather because when I was10-year-in-junior highI encountered this on my weband there's a lot of preprintslike ARC-CEAFit's already aroundin some form around that timeand for thosesocial studies people herethere's also social ARC-CEAFnow in every different fieldthere's this preprint communityof academics and researchersjust publishing theirworking progresswithout the fulljournalistic review processand so just by engaging thoseauthors and writing their emailI don't know that I'm 15 years oldthey just treat me as acollaboratorand then we work on manyinteresting cutting-edge projectsand at that time I discoveredthat this is like 10 yearsin advance from what the textbook saysbecause it usually takes 10 yearsfor the cutting-edge ideato become mainstreamto become curriculumto become test booksso it's like I'm fast-forwarding10 years into the futureonce I taste the futureI don't want to be in the past anymorewhich is why I convinced myjunior high school peopleto drop outand so I think this eventuallyinformed Taiwan's regulationsso that we areI think definitely the mostadvanced in Asiabut one of the most advanced in the worldin terms of experimental educationso in town up to 10%ofstudent can be experimentallytalkedit could be homeschoolingit could be alternative school systemsit could be group schoolingit could be using thosedifferent colleges as resourcesand just have their owncurriculum basicallyas long as it's approvedby the committee in their citythey're allowed to self-educateor group-educatefrom the basic educationall the way to college nowso we have a lot ofexperimental education methodsthat then we take the best partsand into the basic educationthat's going to be rolled outnext yearto both people in alternative educationand people in the normaleducationit is simply thisit is to think in a waythat's anti-disciplinarybecause I firmly believethat disciplines arenot in a traditionaldiscipline kind of waybut in an academicdisciplinesnot self-disciplinethat's very importantbut academic disciplinesI think the fieldsthe idea of an academic fieldI think it is actively detrimentalif your main goal is toto solveSDG challengesif your main goalis to make the social impactit is of course very importantto have real fieldexperience and practiceand things like thatbut if the imaginationis confined within one single fieldit is very muchlikely that the actual worldwill changeduring the courseof two or four yearsof college educationso much so thatthe ideas that you takefor granted becomes likefour years or five yearsout of dateso even for peoplewho are currently in collegeI always advise peopletolearn from peoplewho are the most differentfrom youeither in backgroundor in different experiencedifferent ethnicitydifferent nationalityand certainly in different fieldsso that you canthink of the fieldsas somethingthat's just arbitraryit's like constellationsin the skyevery culturehas a different ideaof constellationbut the starsare what's importantand not howto organize themso that'smy two centshow can the ROCParrance, Tony'sParrance governmentcounteractpropagandamisinformationand fake newsfrom hostile sourcessuch as DPRCusing new technologyso in theinterest of timeI would justreferred youto rumour.pdis.twpdis is our officeand rumour.pdis.twis a shorthandwhenever thisquestion arisesso the rumour.pdis.twprincipleis very simplethe idea is thatthere'sfour years and one nobut there's someproblem with the internetwhen you switch connectionit's very helpfulto have more than onefour-g connection sourcesso let's switcha little bituphere to gosoif you go torumour.pdis.twit has a outlineof the road mapof how we're dealingwith thisidea of disinformationor actually many thingsthat people thinkis intentional disinformationturn out just to bemisinformationthat don't getcorrected in timeso the most important thinghere is thatwe're not doing空管清理法or修法we're not makinga new actor we're not amendingan existing actsuch that people'sbehaviour onlineare punisheddifferently thanthe face-to-faceworldso basicallywhat we'renot doingis to saythat if you spreaddisinformationyou're going tobe punishedsuch-and-suchif you do itonlinebut it's going tobe very differentif you do itofflinethat is somethingthat we're notdoingits own actbut the reasonwhy we'renot doing thisis that we'reallowing the spacefor the peopleworking oncontractingdisinformationfor examplein the civil societythere is this ideathis projectcalled co-factin the co-factweb pagewhich is not fundedby the governmentanywayrightit's veryit's deliberatelyusing the styleof contentforums topromote itselfI'm surerightso it ismulti-modelfor examplein Taiwanwe have thisthe most popularinstant messengerit's called Lineand Line iswhere wesaw the mostdisinformation spreadbecause it's notpublicly addressableyou can't find thosein Googleso it hasthe most chanceto mutateand to go more viralby havingmore messagesto each other's messagesso whatthis is doingessentially is thatif you add this botas a linefriendand it's called真的假的in Mandarinso whenever youreceive a messagefrom a family groupand you go like真的假的is it real or notthen you can justspread itand share itwith the botand the botwill help youto fact checkby engagingwith alarge communityfact checkersyou can seethat they arevery diligentthey replyto everything nowbut if youif you gorepliedthen you cansee whatthe most populardisinformationsometimesbecause it'sabout electiontime nowsometimes electionbasedbut there'sa lotabout theworld cupin soca as wellthere'sapparentlythat the recurringone is alwaysthat if youeat somethingandsomething elseit hassome othereffectthat nevergoes awayso you'reyou caneverybody canengage inrespondand we willnot stayin this screenfor too longfor theintrusivemental healthof everybodybut the ideais thatwithin hoursall thedifferent fact checkerslike leanis veryactive nowis justgoingthrough themone by oneandmaking surethat everybodywho sharewith this plotcan getthis third-partyfact-checkingmechanismthat helpswith theclarificationhad wesay thatspreadingdisinformationonlineis illegalsuch civil societyand itwill not happenbecause theywill be doingcriminal actsbecausewhat they'reandwe'realsothe firstAsiancountrytostarting next yearat media literacyand criticalthinkinginto ourbasiceducationcurriculumis notjust ato ourclass oranythinglike thatwerequirethateach teachertotalk withstudentsin athatif the teachersay itin some wayorto textbookto print itat some fontyou automaticallyhave to accept iteverybody learnsthe ideaof critical thinkingI'm sure thatin the U.S.and in otherEuropean countriespeople withgenerationsof speechfreedomthis istaken forgrantedbut innew democracieslike inTaiwanwe havemediajournalismtrainingwe'renowmostlyjust working onautomatedsema-automatedand ICTassisted toolsso thatpeople canlearnfromthe internetbut in a waythatencouragesthem tothink criticallyand independentlyinsteadofyou knowjustblindlyspreadingit'sthatin theexecutiveU.N.in theadministration'smain pagenow every ministrywhenevertheysee adisinformationthat's beenspreadto themainstreammediaor even justvery popularin thesocial mediathey nowrespondwithinone newscyclethat isto sayaboutthere isa counterbalancingideafrom the ministryin chargeofcourse the journalistsdon't have to trustthe governmentwe're not intheitiouscountrybutthe idea is thatat leasttwo differentsizedmany differentsized voicesare beingbalancedin the reportinsteadofyou knowwaitingfor two monthsare waitingfor a couple weeksbefore respondingandusingtheircritical thinking toolsandfor people who arestuckwithyou knowfamily channelson theline messengerwe atleasthave somesuper society toolsthat canalsocommunicate throughsuch channelswhatareyour thoughtson theneutralityin Taiwanwe'regoingto passthe nextwhichhassome causesthatprotectneutralitybut the reasonwhy we'rejust talkingabout is nowis thatwe don'treally havelarge telecomsabusingneutralitysothis is athis is akind offuturistictopicwhen it comestoTaiwan'smain telecommostlybecausethestate-ownedrightsoit isnotentirely state-ownednowbut it has its rootsin theproviderof thewhat we justcallbraben as human rightwhich isveryit has a long historysoit istaxedwithservingthe disadvantagesareaswhere itoperateseconomiclossbecausephilosophythenneutralityyoudon'tjustthink of itin termsthat willit's likea highercompetition rateit's betterfor the consumerand things like thatof courseI can makeall thoserightwingcapitalistarguments as wellbut thoseargumentsjust don'tarisehereinTaiwanback in thefixedbraben basenowpreventativemeasuresjust in casepeople are going tohavenon-neutralityservices in the futurewe're going toput some balancingtextin the digitalcommunication appbut franklyspeakingthat has neverbeen a problemhereinTaiwanbut I dofollowtheneutralityconversationin the U.S.verycloselybut I'mnot goingto saywhat I thinkthe governmenttellthat it'speople todrinkbutit'srightso that'sone of the thingsthat I thinkwe canfind itin thecovax databaserightso yeahthere'svariousversionsof thisaroundwith spoonswith chopsticksthat'sthe newest onethere'svariousotherideasbeenjust pounderedaboutthat they'rethey'reconsidering variousalternativesbut choose toto be toldfirsttheplastic strawthingit's a reallyseriousfrom therecycle orsustainabledevelopmentlife underwaterperspectiveit is somethingseriousso intheimpetition platformwe have manyevencountersignaturesto addressthis issueso it issomething thatthe people hasbroughtconsensus onand of courseit will alsomake anew generationof innovatorswhothink aboutreusablematerialsformaking strawsbecause itisa hardrequirementtodrink qualityproperlywith proper strawsfor many peopleI thinkit is a legislatoractuallyit is notthe Taiwan governmentbut in any casethere was a legislatorthat sharedthat when she isdrinking I thinkhot bubble teain a cupshe uses a spoonI thinkI did see that newssomewherebut just like anyother misinformationit justthe idea took itlive on its ownand it become very viraland the newest versionnow becomesyou knowthe presidentyou knowit tells peoplebut it doesn'treally worklike thisso I thinkthe good thingabout acomplete freedom ofspeechis that we seevarious veryinteresting memesbutand it's just thatwe just treat themas veryinteresting memesrighthow does an editorrecording atranscriptequalredical transparencyI wouldn't saythat it's equalI would saythat it'sapproximatingsymptototicallyapproximatingrightsonoit's truebecause you can'tif youif I start sayingyou knoweverybody whotalk with meis going to getlive streamedthe result isnobody talks with merightso I thinkthis islike if I askeverybody whopost onslido tostep in frontof the cameraand sayyour questionfor the recordnobody want toask question anymorerightsonobodywant tosharesothis ispart ofthe idea ofdata agencyandthe editingisactuallya collaborativethingsoif there'ssomeonewho comesin aftera meetingeditthereforthe recordtranscriptso thatthey saysomething completelyoppositesoit ismore likewhen people arehaving a discussionmaybe we'rebanderingmaybe wetalk aboutsomein jokesmaybe wetalk aboutsomething thatisunrelated tothe issueathuntbutwe'rejustsharingour personalexperiencesbutin anycasewe havetovisitpthistwthenyou seethefullprincipleforhandlingofficialvisitto dishtheminstrelgetonandyou canseethatbasically adraftedtranscriptit could becorrectingtypesorthey canarguablysay thatthis thingisnon-FOIAcompatibleI justtalk aboutsomemy personal informationarerelatedtopublic interestand things likethatand Ialsocome fromthem on itsothisback and forthprocessisbasically a wayto get peoplethinkingaboutandeverythingWell,there'sthe reason is thatI think about60% of the questionsI get asked already right, sowhen I first getthis question for the first timeI may need to think about itbut then I go backand I look at thetranscript made automaticallyfrom the livestreamand I make a pagecontainingmy answerand I give it a shortPOP是TW,就像是參加公司我的團隊只會POP是PTW所以在下一段時間,人們會說我們是參加公司,所以我會說POP是TW,這是你的答案所以我基本上做了這次常常問問題的問題讓人們知道在政府的情況下然後在政府的情況下發表了一個很 appropriate的談話我非常高興在政府的方式上學習了這個方式所以你們可能知道政府的方式是台灣.gov.tw的名字但是現在每個大學的技術和政策像是AI 台灣或者什麼的我們也有它的 own sub-domainAI 台灣 GOV TW就說了台灣的計劃還有那些規定的 co-creation就像是Tricycle's work here所以你們可以連繫到 most of it開始 from smartTaiwan GOV TW那裡連繫AI 台灣HSA Silicon ValleyBio-medical industry等等還有一件事我會分享如果你們連繫到這裡Taiwan GOV TW因為以以財the medical instrumentindustry is lodged in Taiwanand it's not strictly speakingpart of biologyit's not part of bio-Taiwanbut if you're in a rushand just want to type outthe addressas I'm doing hereyou can also dobio-Taiwan GOV TWit goes to exactlythe same websiteso I think this illustratesthe inclusivenessof the idea ofpedasbasically wheneverthe Ministry of Healthand Welfareand the biologyaction centerand whateverthey really spenta week debatingwhether this should becalled bio-Taiwanor bio-med-Taiwanbut the thingof digital resourcesonline is thatthe space is infinitewhy don't we have bothso you can go tothe bio-Taiwanor bio-med-Taiwanis exactly the same thingso just by engagingin Q&A sessionsthat's crosswords like thisand find out whateverthat I don't have itready link for afterwardsand asking thepedas peoplewhether you would liketo prepare a one-pagerand then we end uphaving one-pagerfor most of the thingsthat people areinterested in thatsmall phonehandheld addictiona serious issuein tellingyes it isso that's part of thereason whymy personal phoneis distinctbecause you can'trun twitteror instagramor lineor whateverthis thingorcalling peopleand takingsmsand maybe takinga low-resolution photoand that's itand because otherwiseI do getlike physicallyaddicted to myselfso I needall the helpI can getit could be through hardwareor I have thisinstalledon myall my computersand I sincerelyrecommended to youit's calledfacebook feederadicatorit works for Chromefor Firefoxfor Safariand basicallyif you install thisthen it doeswhat is this on the tinit eradicatesthe newsfeedfrom facebookbut you can stilluse facebookvery usefullybut you haveto use itlike a browserlike you onlygo tothe page you care aboutthe searchkeywords you careaboutconversation you careaboutbut you don'tever seeone thingbut that is the mainthing of addictionand just by cuttingthis awayfrom ourdopamine cycleit's veryvery usefulas a curefor physical addictionjust in case youhave this problembutrightso insteadofthe newsfeedit showsyou some veryinspiring quoteaboutfromoutlierfrom confuciusfrom somewhere elseyeahbut you knowit's just amassive timesaverI save aboutfacebookvideoradigatorso forevery technologywe havea ideaof data agencyand alsoagency ofone's attentionone's mindand soI thinkit's essentialthat we popularizethis ideathat you cangain backyour attentionjust byusing hardwareorothersoftware formstoword awaythe addictionbut critical thinkingI thinkso we havesometwenty-two minutes morea fewwhere to foodyeahthat's a程序動議that's avery important questionis it justoutsideor you'regoing tothe dinner somewhereyeahrightbut a few days agosome ofTaiwan's high schoolgraduatesjust finishedtheirsecond entry examwhy dosome ofwe'reworking on itthat the newcurriculumwill drasticallychange therelationship betweenthe studentsand thebasic educationsystemand theuniversitiesstartingnext yearwe're going tomovetheshunshoulikevoluntaryselectionofcurriculumideainto theseniorhighmostly becauseof thelack ofthe classroomsin senior highso instead ofjust reducingthe staffwe insteadintroducingtheuniversitiessystemofshunshou之doand alsoshunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshoushunshou第一年進行學校然後再進行不同的學習如果你找到有興趣的學生或是技術、練習再進行學校這會是一個很大的改善加上已經在學校學生的方式我們預期它會增加學生的 stress增加學生的 stress因為學校沒有再再進行學校進行學生在學校選擇進行學校的學生兩年後學校進行學校然後再進行學校或是學校進行學校或是學校進行學校或是學校進行學校再進行學校再進行學校再進行學校這會是很大的改善加上學校進行學校的學生所以我們有更多的選擇但是同時在學校進行學校那是很大的改善學校進行學校再進行學校對不起我比較喜歡學校進行學校所以我喜歡學校進行學校其實我喜歡學校進行學校然後有一點點到各地各地學校送了多多的學校那麼學校進行學校那是最好的學校進行學校學校進行學校學校進行學校學校進行學校學校進行學校經濟經濟是一個經濟性的問題經濟經濟是一個體育體育體育體育是一個體育體育MOU是一個體育體育應該是一個體育體育所以沒有人想要承載運動運動運動運動他們不享受同樣的經濟體育的效果同樣的經濟體育的效果有FISA有其他經濟體育的效果等等我們基本上這是我們第一次完全控制開放政府的案例我們開始了在公眾會議在某些領域參賽者就在討論各種各樣的運動運動他們的存在系統但是我們開始了在各種各樣的經濟開始很抗拒的這個想法直到我找到這個領域因為某些經濟教育人士在這裏他們沒有很專業的有管理局的教育人士我開始告訴他們某些教育人士某些教育人士世界上的人士正在實踐某些教育人士正在群組或群組A.I. 現在比人女性的教育人士還要嚴重讓人覺得學校現在是用餘的所以它真的變成了他們的想法是像傳統文化或其他類似的它是最多在伊斯伯納和其他LLL的玩家或者TOKO World的玩家或其他類似的玩家這些LLL的玩家也要享受所以根據這個歷史和這個語言我完全沒有想過我從PTT來的在台灣有一個大學的網站所以,最好在發展所有的東西,在網站上,是人們在不同的網站中,他們有不同的改變,有不同的改變,就是我們在說的那些東西,我就是想把最新的,最能夠改變人們的心理,進入了他們的會議,所以,經濟人們都認為,網站的人們很自然,因為我只能把那些東西,進入了他們的會議,但是,在幾個會議中,他們都說了,他們都可以同意的,所以,現在,網站的人們都可以,在同樣的情況下,進入他們的會議中,進入他們的會議中,所以,那些東西,我可以,我可以,我可以,那些東西,我可以,我可以,我可以,我可以,我可以!那些東西,我 rotate,他就是說,那些東西,然後,這些東西,我可以的。然後,我覺得這個,要住在這一場空中的,那些東西,他們表去,発生了很多剛才和多也有關,我的個人體驗是非常隱瞞我的自己的體驗我是一個孩子我 was born with this high defect那基本上 most doctors said that if I survive until I'm 12 years oldthen I can get a surgery and maybe it will be curedbut there's also a 50% chance that I don't live until 12 or somethingThis is something that I get repeatedly told when I was like 3 years old or 4 years oldand I don't remember that is what my parents told mebut that actually gave me this philosophythat says basically I need to publish everythingand contribute everything I can contribute every time that I go to bedso like till now like every day when I go to bedI make sure that my inbox is zeroso I practice inbox zero with a zealso basically every email I just reply without expecting a follow uplike close to 11pm or something like thatso I have to reply to all my emailand my to-do list manage with only focusthe inbox is also cleared by midnightand all this just because I can convince myselfthat in the off chance that I don't wake up the next dayit's just a piece because I publish everything that I can to the worldand I just really wish whatever claim to itso it informs my work alsoso for the past decade or sothis is the work that I help maintainingit's called 蒙典 the more a dictionaryit is a pretty good resourceyou can learn about the kanjihow the engineering is called in Minnan in Hakkaso it means in indigenous versionsand you can also learn about the various idiomsand so onand it's I think very useful as a language learners toolbut the important thing is thatwith most of my work I just sayI relinquish all the copyright lawsincluding all the close and nearby lawsincluding the rights of database rightsand attribution rightsso basically I don't have an attachmentto my attributionso you can take this contributionthis whole more a dictionaryand say that you did itand I would not do itbecause I only believe in contributionI think what people givesis much more importantthan what one retainsbecause I have thisvery incredibly short lifespanhorizon rightanything I keepI only keep it for a dayand then I just publish itso that's my main philosophyand if you practice philosophy long enoughthat actually is very helpfulbecause then I wake up a new personI can innovate in whatever directionand all my debts are paidfor the previous night alreadyso I don't have towork in one particular wayand there is very little in Russiain this way of workingso this is my philosophy of lifeand so consequentlymy personal goalis just for the next ten minutesanswer as much questions as possibleso incredibly short-sightedthat's because this is not justfor this conversationbut this also being live streamand put on recordso that people can follow upwith even more questionsand even inspire peopleto think in various different waysright so I'm not going toread aloud the questions anymorebecause there's insufficient time for thatso if you workin a purely voluntary basisthere is no challenges at allthis is a nice pro-tipif you don't give commandnor take commandand with only voluntary associationas an anarchist doesthere is no obstaclesbecause people just come to meif they're ready towork in a radically transparent wayif they're ready to engage with the publicand if things failif we don't get useful informationif we don't get useful inputthen we just documentwhy it's not going to workthis wayjust like Thomas Addison saidI discoveredone thousand wayof why things don't workright so this is alwaysa positiveregardif you can just publisheverything that happensalong the wayso this is the main ideajust working as thepublic hubor facilitating spaceand then there reallyis no challenge at allpeople bring their challengesI help them to findpeople who are working onthe same problemI try to make surethat they have the resourcethey need to tackle this problemand publish their failuresas they often doand if they havesmall successesI've celebratedbut that's itthat's my workso there's no personof agenda for meto do thingswhich makes it very hardif people askwhat are your goalsso nowadays I just sayyou know exactly the sameas sustainable development goalsbecause it saysme a lot ofexplanationand it's truethat the SDGsare self-coherentin a waythat is most likelywhen people bringthe ideas to meit correspondsto SDGsin one way or the otheryeahI thinkin thepublicsphereespeciallyso there'sanother linkEYP thiswhich is asystem that I set upit's calledStandStorewhich is justlike the Google Appsright so you can seethe collaborativespiritscollaborative bookmarksmulti-userdocument editordrawboxlike file storagethere's a chat roomand basicallya lot of different thingsand every dayI wake upandI just lookat this sharedcom buttonwhich is a Trelloand becauseof the radicaltransparency preconditionI cannot lookat state secretsso at any pointin my talkI can alwaysjust openteam's internalcom buttonwithoutworryingabout state secretsbecauseI don't even knowabout thisright sothen I can justautomaticallysee whatpeople are workingon andwhatwhat helpthey needand thingslike thatso everybodyin pedisand whowork with pedisworking inthis kindofworkingout loud wayand it'srelevantsubscription feesthat never getsout of datejust becauseI've decidedto modify a featureand so onthat you're ina much stronger positionto negotiatewhose multinationalswe still useproprietary softwarelike Slidowhich is freecostbut not freeof chargebut Slido also knowsthat we alwayshave an alternativereadyif they start tohave a datapolicy or privacypolicythat doesn't agreewith our philosophyso we canhavea servicemainlyjust forcommunicatingwith the publicinstead of internallybut thenwheneverthey changeyour privacypolicyor changeyour datareplenation policywe alwayshave a planbeand as a resultthey don'ttend tochangetheirpolicyonnessso I thinkthis isvery importantto alwayshave aeelectionsnotbecause wecannotbut we choose notwe dodoonlinepetitioningandcounty signatureand participatorybudgetinglike in Taipeithere is thisIvo thingthing going onbutthe thingsbeing voted onis alwaysthe ideasfrom other citizensso as in participatorybudgetingor at mostyou knowthe prioritieslike in slidelike theone you're votingdetermine thetime I'm going to spendon each questionbut it's not aboutvoting in peoplefirst becauseit is much harderto guaranteethe correctnessand auditablenessof themachine recordsand second thatit creates incentiveif youuse temperingto getthe right personin officethat person thencan mutate the rulesso that it becomeseven moretheirfactionto winelection afterwardsand paperfor allits thoughtsit's very easyto auditand we alsoallow peopleto livestreamthis wholetellingprocessand soin nationalelectionyou can justsee people indifferent partiesand independencejust livestreamthe tellingprocessand so fareven thoughcritographicallyspeakingI can namethat convincedall the different partiespeople thathe has the same strongpropertyand so becauseof this beforewe have thiscryptographic literacytoall the differentpartiesthe paperall the trailis here to staybut we'reworking activelyto enablefor exampleand indigenous peoplewant to votein a voting boothcloserto where they workinsteadwhere they're bornor when peopleareproposing ideaand你自己很容易你可以有不同的政策例如影像、影片、視頻等等都可以在不同的社群中充分地充分地充分我認為現在有很多根據不同的時間不同的社群他們都在自己的社群中都在發生所以是一個Twitter-like system但並沒有中央控制我認為這是一個會是一個變化的方式去把更多的資訊讓很多人不開心社交媒體和社交媒體更容易你和一些人可以決定什麼是你的推特例如Mistodon你喜歡他們的想法例如努力你便可以開始充分地充分地充分地充分地充分我認為這是一個更多參加的方式社交媒體和社交媒體對我們這個利用是一個很好的方式但我們正在而沒有充分地充分地充分但還要充分公開的儲物是他們的主意所以我會兩句這個是社交媒體叫中國的自由美國的能夠透露一桶美麗的畫法和畫像然後可以讓人感受到他們會有好自然的風格還有他們的工作是淒淒的還有社交執行是美國的國際導演在中華人類的健康和健康行動中和其他在一個完全複雜的環境中而被年輕人承認的 blind facilitators他們很信任然後在幾個小時中在這裏工作的是 blind facilitators你會明白有些人很不便宜有些強烈的人在這種環境中會令人更容易和人們分享自己的想法他們現在也正在運用雙方的雙方的雙方的雙方和他們的各種問題讓他們看到人們的影響和不同的社群去修補雙方的雙方所以他們看起來很像雙方的雙方而且他們最近的舞台甚至有一個很大的雙方可以雙方作為一種雙方的雙方那些雙方的雙方他們開始了雙方的雙方的雙方當然很快地獲得了一億美金但他們的想法是雙方的雙方也有支持者他們的想法所以他們可以說雙方的雙方是雙方的雙方的雙方雙方的雙方可以為雙方的雙方獲得了一億美金他們可以很快地獲得雙方的雙方的雙方獲得了一億美金他們可以獲得雙方的雙方和雙方的雙方所以他們的想法是讓人們在雙方的雙方不像不便宜的人們我們需要去修補雙方的雙方但一個優先的雙方是一位需要的雙方在雙方的雙方沒有人能做的很容易像他們所以這是我們最主要的想法不是只是人們在雙方在雙方在雙方大家都做的在不同的方式我們可以看到他們的雙方的雙方是在雙方的雙方在雙方的雙方我們需要這些雙方去修補雙方的雙方就是我們要修補雙方的雙方對我們在雙方是一千萬雙方是一千萬雙方雙方是雙方是雙方是雙方是雙方I just get an email saying that yesterday there was just, you know,tempted connections to DDoSR service and things like that.So this is not a hypothetical thing.The disruption, it could be, of course, from POC or from other sources,we don't have a way to say for sure that from which IP addressesthe controller's eye could be a unit from us for all I know.But what we're seeing is that there's a lot of attempted infiltrationsand cyber warfare that is just going on every day.So, yeah, I do think that we have good enough technologyand all the systems that are internal use that I just show youlike Sandstorm, we engage with Whitehead hackersand like they want like top, I think second place at Defconn,like really serious Whitehead hackersand to just attack our system every day, every week.And for a prolonged period, let's try to social engineer our passwordsand just let us know where our defense in depth falls downand actively repair the systemand occasionally the president also meets themso that our Whitehead hackers feel very proudto serve the people in the countryinstead of going to the dark side.So, I think this is very importantto maintain a positive relationshipwith the whitehead hackersbecause then we can say that IoT cybersecurityand other AI-related cybersecurityis not just an industry in Taiwanbut something that we have real-world experienceworking every day on those thoughts.All right, so that's all the thing that I can answer for nowsorry that I can't answer them allbut thank you for the excellent question, thank you非常感謝行政院唐鳳中委員今天為我們帶來這麼精彩豐富的演講和互動交流但是我們再次為行政院唐鳳中委員給我們熱情的掌聲那我們最後我們邀請呂副文長為我們進行總結非常謝謝我們行政院我們的唐鳳中委員我想感謝唐鳳中委員他們為我們帶來非常有趣的非常感興奮非常有魅力的說話我們可以讓唐鳳中委員給我們一個大掌聲謝謝謝謝所以可能你只要坐在那裡然後我只會坐在這裡好對所以很方便謝謝