We are good.  We're welcome. I don't feel like I'm just taking a seat. Have you, like, right? All right. So we are here to talk about the proposed core privacy initiative, what it is, and why we need it now. The first thing we want to get into is why does Drupal need a core privacy initiative? This is the first question we get as we start to talk to people about why we want to do this and what we're wanting to do. And they say, well, why do we need privacy and core? Contrib can handle it. And I think it's best summed up by Drees did a article for CNN recently. And if you haven't read it yet, please go read it. But the title of it is, the internet's become a dark place and I want the old one back. And it's all about how progression of tracking and analytics and a lot of the scandals that have come out have caused the internet to become a different place than when we originally started creating. And a lot of us as developers, that started a while back, got into privacy or didn't really focus on privacy. We're so focused on building that all of a sudden the tools that we were building were being used in ways that we hadn't imagined or hadn't wanted. And so why care about privacy? First and foremost, and this is something I'll pontificate on all day long, is I believe there's an ethical responsibility as developers for us to enable privacy in the tools that we built. Inherently, we are building tools that can be used for good and for bad. And we should be also giving those tools to be able to allow our users and the people who are creating with it the ability to do that. So first, I think there's just an ethical reason. And folks who've been, you know, we're in Europe now. Under GDPR, that was kind of the first salvo. That was the first real big legislation around privacy. But there are more coming. For the US folks, there is CCPA from California, which all internet roads lead to and from California. So it's going to be widely adopted in the US. And then eventually, there will be more US-based privacy laws. Right now, each of the states are doing their own thing, but GDPR kind of led the way. So this isn't something that we're going to see a regression from. It's we're only going to see more and more regulations, and we're going to have to do with them on a larger basis. And then one of the things that we'll get into later is a lot of the projects that we're building now are starting to come with requirements for privacy in them. They're saying, you have to meet GDPR. You have to meet CCPA or you have to have these certain features enabled in them. And as developers on Drupal right now, a lot of the times we're having to bake those ourselves. We're having to go out and do our own thing. We're not lawyers. We don't know exactly what we need to build. And our clients are kind of dictating that to us. And then lastly, we have been working with Jamie and myself and Peter have been working with a larger group of CMSs, WordPress and Joomla and Umbraco and type of three. And I will say that while Drupal definitely leads in an innovative front from the development sets, when it comes to privacy, we are in the far back. And a lot of the frameworks that we're up against and a lot of the projects that we're bidding on all have privacy baked into core. So that puts them a step ahead of us. So Jamie's going to talk about what the initiative is for us and what we believe that should be brought into core. Cool, yeah. So as Chris said, we, with Peter's company, we worked along on a Contrib GDPR module. And there was a great deal that we could do in that GDPR module and that we could do in Contrib to help these things. But we feel that there's quite a lot that if it was in core, it would enable other modules to work with it much more effectively. And things would be a lot easier for us to build. The things that we had to do were quite, we had to build on top of the field API a lot. So I think the core functionality that we think needs to be in core, although this is definitely a conversation, is this concept of a framework for identifying, exporting, and raising information. If you have used the GDPR module and we've given some talks showing how it works, you'll see that it basically improves on the field list in core. So you see a list of all the fields. I'll link to the user in any way. And you can change the settings on those fields. And then there's a framework for actually exporting those things. If it was possible that it was something in core, then we could start trying to get modules to provide sensible defaults. Because setting up all of your field settings from the start takes a long time, because there's a lot of data in Drupal. So if modules could provide sensible defaults, that would be great. If modules could declare where it is that it's got private information and the kind of ways that it would deal with those things, that would be really great. And similarly, any kind of integration for any third parties, incredibly important for you as a site owner to know about those things. Yeah, so that's the stuff. In addition to that, and a lot of what we're basing this off of is the work that's already been done in some of the GDPR module to date, but then also looking at some of the other programs and frameworks that have privacy in core and what they're doing. One of the things that I highly respect of the WordPress project is that all of their plugins declare into a core API. Here are all the tracking scripts that are in my module, and here's all the data that my plug-in is collecting. And then the site builder can go to a single page in the back end and have all of the information there. WordPress goes one step further because a lot of their customers or a lot of their users are smaller sites that don't have a larger team behind them or a legal team behind them. And they actually have a one-click privacy policy creator, so you click a button and it will take all the information that all the plugins have declared, put it into your privacy policy and put out on the other end a compliant privacy policy page for somebody who hasn't done that yet. Obviously one size doesn't fit all in that, and so there's obviously some tweaks that need to happen from there, but just being able to know if somebody goes off and installs a module that has a tracking script on it that you don't know about or a module's injecting that as a developer or as a customer, your customers, they may not know that, they may not disclose it in their privacy policy because they may not know and then all of a sudden they're out of compliance. So having that core functionality, not only for modules to declare, hey, this is private information, but hey, I'm also tracking you in these ways, brings a lot more light to the users. And one way in which there's gonna be a core versus contrib collaboration is this concept of the actual data requests and how they're managed. So for some smaller sites, you might wanna make it so that somebody clicks a button and they get the data exported out of it for a larger client, especially when you get to the enterprise, you're gonna need to build actual sort of workflow management tools to help members of staff process those requests. We find a lot of the time in Drupal, you'll have fields that are in the maybe or anonymize section of Eurasia where you'll have like notes fields that somebody randomly is typing stuff that might have personal information about someone and you have to check it physically. You might have third-party integrations that you have to manually go and check that information. So what we're gonna find is that probably in core that we can get a very basic UI that in contrib we can extend for the more complex scenarios. And I think the privacy initiative will be a really great place to be a single point where you can see, okay, some of it's in core, but you can also see the collection of core contrib modules that are within that initiative. And so with contrib, what we're proposing is to not just consume GDPR into core. I think that would be short-sighted and it also is too specific. So part of what we're looking at is taking the baseline of privacy policies that you see from GDPR, CCPA, and some of the others that are coming out, they all have a common core to them as well, right? Right to access, right to be forgotten are the big two. And then disclosure around what date are you tracking and how. So if we can bring those into core, then it allows the contrib space to then specialize. So if you're a site that's in Europe, you will then install the GDPR module, which is a contrib module that will extend core to allow you to get into those specific regulations. And as each jurisdiction starts having their own, you can have contrib modules that specify those and you're not having to, once CCPA comes up, say, oh, I'm gonna take the contrib module for GDPR, I'm gonna have to hack it a little bit and now it's this. It allows that work to be shared a lot better. Is there a question or do I see a hand go up, oh, sorry. So that's kind of the big one there. Like we said, the privacy policy generator, it's all building on top of the ability to declare into core, here's what we're tracking, here's private data, here's where it is, gives contrib the ability to then go out and do what it needs to do. Cool. So again, we've been working with a cross CMS privacy group that we've kind of propped up with some of the core contributors from various different projects. They're represented here. Jamie, myself and Peter meet with these folks we've gone through. We actually have a GitHub repo that has a core privacy statement that says here's what we're going to try to do. And the goal behind this is most of these technologies are all based on PHP, but for the most part, what we want to be able to do is be proactive instead of reactive in the legislation space and be able to say, rather than us shaking our fists to GDPR and saying this is creating so much work for us, as a web community, the technologies represented here represent almost half of the entire web as we know it. So we can declare here's a baseline for privacy that we are going to stand for and then extend upon and then we can start being involved in the process of legislation rather than having to always be reactive. We can actually be proactive and take a stand for ourselves. Yes, what's next? So for what's next, we want to be able to obviously make this an official initiative. To that, we're going to need obviously your support and community support. We're going to need some core commuter support as well. But then also we're looking at, are there various funds or grants that we can apply to that can give sponsorship to this? And then also, is there private sponsorships that we can bring in to have folks work on this? So we're currently talking to various companies and folks in the community and are always open to ideas there. And so with that, that was kind of our, we wanted to get that out there, but we wanted to leave, because this is a shorter session, we wanted to leave a chunk of time to ask questions, answer questions, come up with ideas and thoughts that we can then go through and bring these ideas back into core or back into our initiative as well. So at that point, or to this point, we'll open it up for questions that you may have.  There is a microphone here if you want to use a microphone. If not, we can just repeat your question over the microphone here. Yeah, also particularly any comments you have like on how you've, as I don't know, agencies, developers, you've found GDPR and the privacy stuff has impacted you and any ideas you have on what you've seen in terms of what should be in core and contract will be interesting to know as well. How great is the, how big is the risk? Because you say, Drupal is in the back of privacy and it's here, but how big is the risk? I think for us, especially as we are seeing Drupal move more into the enterprise space, the risk gets greater and greater because as we start to go up against other CMSs that have this in core, that's just a checkbox item, it becomes something where, oh, well, you guys don't have this, this other platform does. Adobe has this or WordPress has this. So then it's now a checkbox in the weight that people put on their choice of CMSs. One thing that is definite is this is not the idea that we are making Drupal compliant. It's not 100% compliant. There will always be work that has to be done on top. The idea here is to give a base level of tools for people to be compliant and then start to compete in the projects that are trying to choose what CMS they're getting into. Drupal will actually be able to be competitive in that landscape, because right now it's very much not. And it's starting to be noticed on the broader CMS talk, if you will. Yeah, just one thing about that. We are finding a lot of the tenders that I'm seeing tend to have as a line something to have right to access and right to be forgotten, particularly. And then auditing is useful because if there are any problems, it helps you then not get fined or communicate with them. So I think it's something that if the Drupal community could show that it's taken it seriously, because this tends to be a checkbox, it's not that a lot of people wanna pay a lot of money for privacy, but it tends to be a checkbox for you to get it at all. If the whole community has an eye to this, there's a kind of sense in which we're safer together because we can then say, I can then link in my tender proposals, I can link to articles about it, I can do a small little thing, write about it, post something on Drupal.org or post something in the news that shows that Drupal's good at this. So I think our risk is in lost opportunities more than specifically being necessarily fine or anything. Though that is possible, that's why I think the risk lies. So Paul Johnson from the CTA Digital in the UK, I can definitely agree with what you're saying, but the tenders, we work with membership based organisations, government and charities. So it's a massive issue for us. And it's kind of a gate if you haven't got those things because a massive onerous task to actually prove that the system is compliant. I suppose I was a partner as the question is, are you gonna approach it similar to the security team perhaps where there is like a responsible disclosure where perhaps you find an issue and then it's maintained and then there's kind of good governance around it. So it's very reassuring to these purchases. Yeah, so one thing is with the Cross-CMS group is we put a lot of energy in looking at what everyone else has been doing and in WordPress, there's been much more looking at the legal side of things, are doing a fantastic process. So one thing we did do at the very beginning is they started building questionnaires for modules in their marketplaces of things that you'd have to fill in to show that you have taken privacy into account. I think if we started with a privacy initiative, we could move much more into that in the kind of, you know, signing up for the module kind of stuff so that people have done things like write somewhere what data they've stored, et cetera. And then maybe we could go one step further and add to the security team one person maybe who checks that people are doing stuff like that. I think that would be really helpful if there was a kind of, you know, this module isn't stealing people's private information without any consent because this was made ages ago and they forgot about it or something. So I think there is some scope for that. And we have talked about that, but yeah, it's sort of one separate time. And in WordPress, one of the interesting things that they do is that if your plugin declares, click this box or download this plugin and you will be compliant, you get removed from the repo because there is no guarantee of compliance. So that's one thing that they have specifically gone out and said we will not allow that. And on the flip side, you can also get warnings just like we do security warnings through responsible disclosure and say, hey, you aren't disclosing this to your customers, you need to disclose it or we'll disclose it for you or we'll fix it for you. I think Drupal has a framework for that type of responsible disclosure more than other CMSs because we have the security team that we do. So yes, I think that this would have to get involved in some sense in the module repo as well. So I'm going to maybe be a little bit of like a devil's advocate here. Please do. That's what we love. I think there's two things that come to mind on this. One is, as far as like sort of CMS cooperation and standardization, I've watched with some interest sort of the waning side of PHP fig. Right. This is sort of, you know, shadows of. Yeah. I know like symphony left and off and things like that. So I'm just a little bit sort of, you know, and maybe this is actually a good example of what it should be, which is more ad hoc, right? Yeah. So you're not starting up some new thing and putting numbers on them. Yep. So that's just one thought there. Yeah. The other though is that I think, and you know, in the US we're sort of mercifully, you know, behind the curve on some of this stuff so we can see how everybody else screws it up. But this strikes me as a little bit different from other parts of Drupal where when people ask me, right, to your point, is Drupal, you know, GDPR compliant or whatever. It's like it's all in your implementation. Right. I do think that despite best efforts, there might still be a perception that if it becomes an official initiative and you have all of this sort of reporting and things like that, that it is more of a false sense of security than we offer on other things. Right. Because I think the target for this, like the large enterprises are gonna spend the money and they're already having to spend the money on time to do this. Right. So this becomes sort of a mid to low market made it. Yeah. Maybe more of a mid to low market of Drupal. And I'm just worried that that kind of initiative, like you know, that's, there's no sponsorship. There's not as much sponsorship money there as maintenance. So if we commit to doing something like this, I think it's very fraught. Right. It's a need in space. I think there's, for this especially, there's a lot of good reasons to ask like, if we should. Right. And that's my feeling. And that's why we wanted to have this session was to say, what is the feedback? To that extent, yes, in the US, we're woefully behind. We're catching up there. Facebook just got fined $4 billion. They pulled it out of the couch. They paid it and off they go, right? Like it's no big deal. Like privacy is seen as something that is a line item in your fine list that you get as a big company. That's going to start changing as, in my opinion, as CCPA comes online, there's a contentious bind between the state government and the federal government. And the federal doesn't like the states telling it what to do. And so I think the federal government is going to catch up very quickly. Once CCPA comes on, people are starting to sue. They start seeing the money flow. Businesses start getting affected. You're going to see things go through the federal docket a lot faster. And then to that extent, it's going to start getting more and more people saying that just like in Europe, this is a checkbox item. We have to have this. At the same time, what we're saying from core initiative is that this isn't a total framework.  And rather than having to completely rebuild piece by piece by piece, ideally in like our utopian society, could we share a PHP library amongst WordPress, Drupal and Joomla? Yeah, like we're all PHP based. We could write a common privacy framework and start doing that. That's a much higher lift and a much heavier load to carry. But I think that if nothing else, our involvement with the other CMSs has brought to light just how woefully behind we are. That was evident amongst us as we were going through that process of like, hey, we've got this, we're like, we don't. We have this, we don't. If you look at the GDPR module and how well it's built, it's 3,000 installs-ish. I think there's more than 3,000 sites in Europe that are running on Drupal 8. So that shows that a lot of people are going out and rolling their own and just trying to go on an ad hoc. So I think there needs to be, that shows that there needs to be some sort of baseline framework because there isn't an adoption like that. Nobody's been given that ability. So, but that's definitely part of the push and pull that we're trying to do is, should this be in contrib, should it not? So, we'll go here and then over here. Yeah, a quick question. So just, I think, yes, we shouldn't spend the time and the energy to work on that. Just as a general thing. As far as doing stuff like WordPress is ahead and what is the objective of the initiative if it's made official, like is it to catch up to it or to do it? It's to work alongside, basically what we want to be able to do is say, as Drupal developers, we're doing our best to provide the tools to the sites that we're building to be compliant with privacy and then just best practices. We don't have those best practices built into core like we do with accessibility and everything else that we have to be able to do as a program or as a CMS. I think for us, there's an ethical side of it that we should just be doing this. It's something that is a good practice that we should be building. And then as a second, it's, yeah, we're playing catch up now. Is it gonna be mimicked one-to-one? No, but it'll be modeled after what's been done because we've also seen where they've fallen or where they've had issues. And so we can learn from that as well. So we'll go over here, we'll do this question and we gotta be done, of course, because it's a short session, so. I just had an observation really, I worked for a UK regulator. So we've had to do extra stuff around it. We've also seen quite a big consequence for the Google Analytics Trafficking Drupal. Yep. And I was just interested, have you seen similar things elsewhere? So one of the interesting things along the lines of Google Analytics is when the WordPress community initialized this, the amount of plugins that said, oh, by the way, we're including tracking scripts was shocking, right? The number of things that came out through that. Site owners were all of a sudden given this list of, here's the six plugins that you had and you're like, wait, I only thought two were tracking me, right? So to that extent, I think it's going to air out a lot of that. But yeah, there's gonna be nuances to everything that we have to kind of get into. So the idea is give a base framework to then extend upon. And we'll do the last one here. I think it's awesome that you're already, that we are collaborating with the other CMS. I think we should keep in mind that our largest competitors are closed source proprietary CMS and they can promise. I'm not saying they make false promises, but they can, whereas we cannot. It's all transparent. So we should have answers. And I think we should have answers soon and show the world that because it suits all of us. Right, like if we're going up against Adobe and Adobe goes, here's our privacy framework and we are compliant because we've done all the audits on it. That may or may not be true based on the implementation.  You go, well, right? Like that, it could be, doesn't really put assurance into the people who are implementing it. So yeah, just make a little comment about your devil's advocacy question. So like the first thing about the cost CMS thing, we're very different pieces of software. So the way we implement privacy tools, we're already finding it's going to be very different with human or WordPress or Bronco especially. So it's never going to be something like the fake thing where we're all going to say, we're agreeing to this. It's just learning from each other and we found that's already useful. And the second thing is, although when we first started, especially around GDPR, we put a lot of energy communicating. This doesn't make you compliant. It's just tools to help you do that. And we thought that there would be something in the UK that could guarantee you compliance. People use ISO 2701 for that, but there isn't anything that guarantees it. And everyone was worried about that. In reality, it's not been as big a deal as it was. We found that a lot of the regulators have taken a much more common sense approach to things rather than deliberately searching for fines. So I think whilst it is very important if we do a privacy initiative to say over and over again, it doesn't make you compliant. It doesn't make you compliant. It's not something that is such a risk that if we did privacy initiative, we would cause more damage than we have now. I think most people will know what they're doing. And any client says, oh, our tick box were definitely compliant.  They're just using an excuse for it. So by us providing those tools to help people, I don't think we'll cause any damage. And we've learned a lot from the rest of the community on how to do this and we haven't seen that as a problem. I don't think we've had anyone come back to anything that we've done throughout our initiative and said, oh, you said you were compliant. Therefore, that's just been a non-issue, though we will still care about it. So I don't know if that helps with that. All right, so with that, we're gonna finish and bring Paul up. So, and if you guys have more questions and gals, feel free to grab us and talk to us throughout this week. We would love to hear your feedback on this because we're trying to take this to the core group, to sponsorships and everybody else. So devil's advocate, come, I love having a beer and talking through the deeper concepts behind this. So please come find us. Thank you.


Back here, education. I mean, as Mr. Peter will be saying all the time, if we're going to make progress, two fields cannot be overlooked. Education, health care. Now, we've spoken to the challenge of education on several occasions. What we know for a fact is that what you get out is what you put into it. I want to talk through issues in education, layers of them, but we don't have the time. I'd just like to come in with Dr. Ombiageli as the questioner. And to ask my dear sister, Obi, to lay out for us what the big problems are in education in Nigeria. She's had a role as Minister of Education, and we've spoken to this subject several times in our conversations. So in a quick couple of minutes, if Obi sets us going off, then my colleagues here in the studio will chip in for us to make sense of where policy is and where we must be going if we are to reap demographic dividend in this country. Obi. I had to tear myself out of the meeting on the funeral activities for Chief of Basilica Meche, the legendary one who was one of our front row nationalists, first Minister of Aviation in the First Republic. And I just wanted to respond quickly to this and get back to the session with them. On education, I think the very strong, I'm unable to use my video unfortunately, so please bear with me. You would have to make do with my audio. Is that okay, Pat? Okay, yes, sure. Yes, okay. On education, I think that we have enough analytical evidence of how important it is for economic development. The case is made that education has gone beyond being a social good to being not just a social good, but also an economic imperative for the growth of any society. As a matter of fact, as more research advanced, we came to the conclusion that the real reason that human capital is important is because as we advance in knowledge through technology, the contribution of education to growth just continues to be more accentuated. To that extent, therefore, for a continent that we see a reversal of its economic performance to its growth, to its natural endowment, we can clearly come to the conclusion that the lack of emphasis on economic or the lack of emphasis on the power of economic growth by human capital explains our story. The more natural resources we have found on our continent, the less the economic performance of our continent. And so anyone who thinks that an additional discovery of one commodity of the other would be the basis of our economic growth has not been paying attention to the analysis that show clearly that we are stuck in the low equilibrium growth that comes from a very perverse behavior of the politics of the continent because of the contestation for minerals and the resources that come, the process of those resources. To that extent, therefore, we can conclude that those who want to continue the old paradigm of emphasis on natural resources don't have a new set of ideas with which to work. I believe very much in the power of education, and I've seen the contribution that education has made. Sorry, Obi, let me interfere here and stay in line with what you're saying. One university in California, Stanford, is probably responsible for more capital than the capital available in the entire continent of Africa. And all they have done is create some human capital, some of who just went across the road literally into Silicon Valley and created companies, which in a very short period of time, while they were still in their 20s, made them holders of billions and billions and billions of dollars in capital. Yet, if you look at education budgets in Nigeria, it is almost ridiculous that we don't seem to understand the game the world is playing in terms of our investment in education. And even that education which we are given, and I go back to Paulo Freire and the pedagogy of the oppressed in nature of the piggy bank mindset in which we are still using colonial type understanding of education. What must we do in terms of budgeting or freedom of the system? And I say this particularly because sitting here with me is Emmanuel Orgi who leads a group called AFED, a station of formidable education development in Nigeria. AFED is one of the local schools in like blighted neighborhoods and all of that, who educate more of our children than government schools. So some thinking about private investment in education is critical. So in terms of general strategy and budget, how should we approach in education? So the first thing you must not do is to assume that the most critical problem to solve in education is to give it more money. I know for a fact that the more money that however incremental it was over the decades that we gave to education, the less the learning outcomes in education. And every education system has to be about the learning outcomes. If you have all the children in school but they really are not learning, we have wasted investment in education and we have actually blighted the future of our children even more. So what must we do? We must look at the issue of funding education from the perspective of how it correlates to performance in education and we use the word rightly investment which is entirely different from budget. Investment in education means that you must be evidence-based in investing in the things that have a higher probability of influencing learning outcomes. And it therefore means that you need a lot of research and a lot of data around what works, what interventions improve learning outcomes and where in the chain of what we call education as a system and education as a sector, education as a process. All of these are very different things. So education as a system, what we have found through research is that the foundational literacy and numeracy skills which really start off children very well in life. Just the basic six foundational skills. The skills of literacy and numeracy, they are the age of 10. You would be shocked that nine out of every 10 African children are not acquiring minimum proficiency in literacy and numeracy in our continent. The rest of the world, the number is something of seven out of 10 in the middle income countries. It's an average of five to six out of 10. In high income countries it's one out of 10 not achieving. So you can see that we are stuck in a very bad situation. We must first therefore correct everything that would support a solid foundation for the children because it's a predictor of lifelong capacity to learn and therefore capacity to earn. So what must we do there? We must invest in the things that research has shown to influence learning outcomes for children. So structured pedagogy is an important aspect of it. What does this mean? Some basic things of making sure that the curriculum as well as learning plans as well as the coaching, the training and the coaching of the teachers, as well as textbooks that children use at that foundational level, enable them to grasp the science of learning. And so just correcting the foundation can lay a stage for what would happen with secondary education and for what would happen with tertiary education and other forms of informal adult education. And then we can see clearly that the further investment in education has to go from the perspective of identifying who best can pay for education. At the foundational literacy level, there is absolutely no reason why we should, as a state, live that to the vagaries of the market. What we should really do is that those who have the capacity to pay and would love to give their children the kind of education that is prized, let them go ahead and do so. But we must not live the poor with failing public institutions. Today, what we also know about research in early childhood, sorry, in foundational literacy is that what we call nursery schools, which have been the preserve of the middle class of Africa to the outer neglect of the children of the poor, is so important because at the year of three, between two and three, that's when the learning capacity is unlocked for a child. In the case of the poor, which constitute more than 65% of the children that we have in public schools, that we have in the country stuck in public schools, these children at that age are in markets or on the work sites with their parents or at home drinking ogi, drinking akamu, and that even worsens their fate in life because it certifies their capacity to learn. So it means that early child care education has to be very high on the agenda of any serious government that wants to tackle the issues of inequality that immediately start in the lives of people through the lack of access to quality education. You bring up some things that are very important there, and I think it's important we engage it. Just to make a point, many, many years ago, back in the Babangila days, the friend of mine, late Hashim, Abu Bakar Hashim, was palm-sikking education, and I stopped by to see him one evening, and I was complaining bitterly about allocation to education, and he said to me, look, the one that is allocated, his staff just used it to organize conferences and print bags and make... There you go. And I said to him, yes, but you are a leader, that is your business to check, because they brought this point of early childhood education. We need to massively invest in retraining teachers of entry level kids, those two, three-year-olds, where the foundation is laid. But the politics of Nigeria make us focus so much on ASU and university education, and we miss the foundational level, which is where it matters the most. What can we do? But you know Pat, you know Pat, that when you look at the dynamics of power, it goes in the direction of the middle income class on our continent, and we have an utterly selfish middle class. The middle class is the educated class, so they have voice, and because they have voice, they have much more political power, and therefore they can determine what is the agenda setting of government in many ways. So you see the middle class of Africa, they would pay the best kind of money to give your children what you call it, mastery education, that is early childhood education, give them foundational education in a junior secondary and secondary, but as soon as it gets to university education, they want the government to pick up the cost of that education, and so in that way what they then do is that they hold the government hostage to whatever it is that they want, and so the priority for them is tertiary education, therefore the priority of government becomes tertiary education, because it's emotionally, what do you call it, what's the word that we use for it? It's emotionally engaging or self-serving kind of conversation between the government and the middle class. Now this is unfair because it means that we don't have constituency for basic education, the foundational education, and so we must break that. The government must be the people that have the care for the majority of the people in the land who are in poverty, and they must concentrate very much in saying how we can fix foundational literacy, we need to get early childhood education, junior secondary education, senior secondary education as much as possible are working, and then we can have this discussion around the tertiary education from the perspective of what we know, that when people get tertiary education, the economic benefit of tertiary education, a lot of it packs into the pocket of the beneficiary of tertiary education, and that to that extent therefore we must allocate the kind of cost for funding that kind of education in a way that ensures that the benefits are understood and that the financing ties into how the cost allocation goes. Let me end on this note, but you see if we want education to unlock our economic growth, we do need to be much more data driven, we do need to understand what the barriers to our economic growth in different sectors of the economy are, and we do need to design our relevance and quality of curriculum, especially at the level of the skills development from that orientation. When I've seen what you said about your permanent secretary friend layout, I've often said to them that as Minister of Education, I had to use an analytical process to understand what had happened to budgets of Ministry of Education in the past, and I said to my colleagues in the Ministry of Education at that time, why that sector of education? As we looked at the inverse relationship between budget and performance, I said to them, is this the Ministry of Education or the Ministry of Works? Because there was much more interest in transaction related activities in education than there was any interest in the policy dimensions of education on the regulatory issues, quality assurance issues in the investment in professional teachers development, and the coaching that is absolutely necessary on the investment in technology that was necessary because as the world began to progress, it was important that instructional materials would reflect that level of awareness and knowledge of the world. Now what I said to them then, which was from today, is that if you fund a dysfunction well, okay, what you would have is a well-funded dysfunctionality. You don't simply say to yourself, ah, education needs money. Let's give it more budget. You give it 22% budget. You know that 22% budget will fund your dysfunction. Well, it's a well-funded dysfunction. What you need is an education system that works. It therefore requires that you should do what we call prior actions. Your prior actions are bold and courageous reforms in the governance of education, in the issue of teachers, in the issue of your curriculum, on the issue of your instructional methods and all that is associated with it, on issues of equity in education, on issues of the role of technology in education, on the issues of the reform of the policy environment for education. So there are just some, and then of course, there is a salient issue on the, on the matter of finance in education. And this is a conversation that we've been running from. We have to have the conversation on how we finance education. Countries of, you know, more advanced economies are even forced to have that conversation. Yes, absolutely. They keep going back to the table to look at it all over again and to figure out how to ensure that everyone who is not educated at the foundational level has quality education at that level, regardless of what their station in life might be. And then when it comes to tertiary education, there has to be a conversation on how to allocate risk and benefits, right? Benefits and all of that. So I would like to thank you for the opportunity of, you know, giving my few thoughts to this. Thank you, Pat. Thank you so much, Obi. Yes, thank you. I will let you get back to that meeting. But the issue that you have laid down, we will crack up in the next 10 minutes before we go to the next segment as our time is almost running out. But I'd like for us to pick up on the business of funding education. Who should be funding education? What? I mean, very important is the point made about tertiary education. I've tried to do that. Sometimes you'll be misunderstood. So much obsession with tertiary education, university education, is it being funded well? You know, government must fund it. People will argue. No, no, no, no, no. But it is this elite conspiracy that leads us there. We miss the most important stage in education, which is that early childhood education. Who should be funding education? How should we spread the cost? I mean, the average, you know, one clear example, you here have been a professor in the United States for such a long time, and you can relate to this. I tell my friends who are practicing in the United States, doctors, many of them were educated in Nigerian universities. They are colleagues who they are working with in the U.S., basically are paying for getting that medical education many, many years after they leave medical school. These Nigerian colleagues basically got free education in Nigeria and moved to the United States with that education and all of that, which shows elite conspiracy around tertiary education. It's not a conversation Asu likes, but tertiary education, people should pay more for it because they use it more for themselves than for society. Where it is more important that base level, where that education for everybody builds up society, they don't ask for its funding. I say you get this ridiculous thing. We are a person pays two, three million Naira, a term for the child to go to private school, primary level, and wants university education to be free. How did we get to this absurdity? And how can we begin to restructure education funding in Nigeria? I think first of all, obviously it all in terms of the foundation for education. I think they're coming directly to your question. Yes, in the United States, remember again that education is one of the drive engines that grows every economy. They're not about it. So for example, when you talk about this funding, I think what we have right now in DbDati about how are we going to be able to fund that particular area is the issue and the fundamentals that we will no longer, for example, make the government pay everything that we're going to come out alone, alone package. We have by for example, between 10 and 20 years, people can be able to pay back this money because if they give it free, people take it away free and they don't have anything to do with it. So the best thing right now is to make sure after that, remember again that we're talking about free education for primary and secondary. And then they go in back, for example, the tertiary one. So the tertiary one, for example, should be a package whereby, for example, people don't have that particular resources, can be able to have a bank. DbDati is planning to come out with a banking system whereby people can be able to have opportunity to have loans where they can be able to pay about a 20-year period. So that with that, gives the people opportunity to be able to enhance that particular education policy they have. And that's one of the key issues here. And one of the issues in funding education is that this make believe that most of the children of the poor go to poorly managed government schools, which is a big lie because most of the children of the very poor actually, the poor spend more on education of their children than they reach do. As a percentage of their income. It's not coming free from any government schools. The statistics on how many children in Lagos of the very poor go to private schools can be given to us by Emmanuel Oji, who is president of AFED, or chair, right? Of AFED. And AFED is low-cost primary schools, private enterprise in poor neighborhoods, if you will, around which a lot of work has been done. I have been associated with this process. I'm actually a patron of AFED, national patron. And I was interestingly brought into this process by an Englishman, James Tully, Professor Tully, who is Vice Chancellor of Buckingham University. He used to be an University of Newcastle and has done a lot of work on these schools in several countries around the world, low-cost private schools. So Emmanuel, what is the kind of percentage of people who go to school in Lagos go to AFED-type schools? Yes sir. Good evening, Nigeria, and those of you who know us from the diaspora. Prof, thank you for this opportunity. Let me say clearly we've been on this debate for a long period. Like I was discussing with Prof earlier, I said we are on the group that disagree with the figure of 20 million out-of-school children. Because a majority of our kind of school are not in the government rather. And on that note, the number of children who attend this kind of school are not accounted for. So they are considered as out-of-school children. So if you come to Lagos, for instance, I think the statistics around 2007 conducted by Professor James Tully himself revealed at that time when they were saying that about 45 percent of the children that are out-of-school in Lagos, after the research work, it shows that they were just about 4 percent. And not as if that 4 percent were real. It is just that in order to give it to, not to leave anything to chance, because when he went into these schools, local schools, he found these children learning. And of course, further to that, they conducted a test that showed that the children in these low-cost private schools were learning better than their counterpart in the public school. So, frankly, as of the last time we were talking about close to a million children in Lagos alone. I'm not talking about across the nation. I can tell you, I had the privilege of visiting many of these schools, including those on Kerouz in Makoko. And all of that. I think Emmanuel was in some of the entourage of my visit to this place. And I felt totally ashamed of myself. And as much as I thought I was a great policy activist and everything, it took somebody coming from England to come and expose me to what was going on in my backyard. But you know what government agencies spend most of their time doing? Trying to shut them down, finding all kinds of, whereas they are the major providers of education to the children of the poor. And that your driver pays 5000 Naira a month from the 30,000 Naira that you pay him for that child to go to one of these schools. So, policy needs to address this. How do we, and this is the most important stage of education, how do we provide supplement, if you want to call it that, to strengthen these schools and show that that driver can send their child to this school in a better shape so that that early stage is taken care of, rather than fighting over how many billions more should we give to the university system? And I think this is a major debate that we should face in this country. I think that basically what Abid just mentioned now, that we need to sit down and then use data. Because we have a very selfish middle class. Yes, middle class. Very, very selfish. Very selfish middle class. And then come to the table, whereby, for example, we should be able to find out how do we fund it? That funding education is very, very important. I was just looking at educational growth in Nigeria, last, you know, first war. Education was on the top, on the bottom of the list, 1.4%. Which means underfunded. To blame for funded. But we look at the inflation rate of education, 15%. Which means that there's a big gap between funding. So, this is the reason why the Obidati says we need to come to table.  And be able to discuss how can we be able to fund education. It's not talking about doing this in the first 200 days. It's not about doing this in the first 100 days, so that we can come to the table and be able to solve this problem. So, such fundamental value, where education is available. Unfortunately, time is out and we have to move on to several other segments, waiting for us to go to talk about uniting Nigeria. And how this takes us forward. So, let's take a break. Go back to the amazing, very, very amazing, and then we'll come right back and say goodbye. Thank you.


Sometimes it's a student who wants to go in our field and he or she stutters they you know are not sure that they can do it you know because you think well I stutter how can I help other people who stutter and so that very thing you know happened I'm guessing maybe five or six years ago practically where you're standing there was a young woman who was a first-year student and her advisor was next door and he came in with her and said this is Naomi she's one of my advisees she stutters and she thinks she's gonna leave UVM and get into a different field because she feels like her stuttering is gonna like not make her do what she wants to do so she and I you know basically spent four years together because she was a freshman when she graduated she you know like was much more fluent she was very confident she graduate she did an honors thesis she graduated Phi Beta Kappa and is now doing her PhD at absolutely the best graduate school in our field and she you know and I have stayed in touch and she wrote a wonderful letter of support for the Kitter Award for me saying that you know I helped her be able to do what she wanted with her life which is to touch other people who stutter. I'm Barry Guitar I'm a professor of communication science and disorders and I came to UVM back in 1976.


Corruption and financial crimes are interwoven. I mean, if you look at a corruption investigation, almost in every aspect there is a transition of money, illicit funds. It could be goods and services in exchange, but typically it's financial, and you have to follow the flow of money, and that's when you get into money laundering or structuring for money laundering and where that flow of funding will go. Is it there to support other criminal activities, or is it there just to line the pockets of the individual that's doing the corruptive activity? If you're a victim of someone that scams you out of money, of course, financially you'll lose the money there, but it also, as far as like the payment card industry, that there's a cost to doing business, and if they incur a certain percentage of fraud loss, they have to pass that on. They're a business, and how they pass that on, it's typically to the public. You look at on the government side too, as far as the resources that you have to invest to actually identify and go after the criminals perpetrating these financial crimes. There's a couple cases recently where financial institutions almost went under because of financial crimes that were perpetrated against their institution, just because the insurance and all that wasn't even high enough to cover as far as the fraud losses. I think one of the biggest challenges investigating financial crimes is just the flow of communications or the coordination between the private sector and law enforcement. It's difficult enough if it affects several countries and law enforcement in those several countries have to investigate financial crime, but when you add the aspect of the private sector being involved with the much-needed information of that and have the flow in a timely manner so that law enforcement can respond adequately, because the private sector, a lot of times looking for the reputation of the company, so they don't want to release information unless they absolutely have to. In law enforcement, we need that information as soon as possible so that we can identify the criminals and then hopefully arrest them. In order to address corruption or financial crime issues, what we've set up is we have a workflow messaging system with a number of countries. We have seconded officers here from several different countries in both sections of financial crimes and our inter-corruption program, and they'll review these messages every day, and these are basically coming from our member countries asking for assistance, whether it's with the corruption investigation to identify assets, how to trace those and eventually recover those assets, or it might be specifically on a financial crimes fraud scheme that they're seeing. Seeing if we've heard about that before, other countries that might be affected, and then they'll ask if we can help with case coordination. Interpol also helps with setting up expert working group meetings. We set up one last year on social engineering fraud that proved to be quite successful and actually transitioned to an operation that we did last year called Operation First Light that involves six countries in Asia to do an Operation First Light 2015 that involves 23 countries, and it's still ongoing, but right now the success has been very good to date. Other things that we do is case coordination. If there's a case that involves several countries, we bring the countries together, the investigators and prosecutors together, like we did last year with the unlimited ATM cash out fraud scheme. It was 15 countries, investigators and prosecutors from all those 15 countries got together for two days, and in addition, we're members from the private sector that came in and shared information about how this fraud scheme occurred and then how the funds flew from one country to the next, and then how they were actually laundered in the end. And then we developed what's called best investigative guides, or kind of a go-to. So if you see a fraud scheme that's similar to this, that the country or the investigating agency now has a template of what to do so that they're not losing valuable time in the investigation trying to figure out what the next steps are. We get messages every day from the member countries about what they're seeing for financial crime fraud schemes, asking for assistance in those investigations. We routinely do workshops, training or capacity building training that helps our member countries to shore up or strengthen certain aspects of their investigator support that they have. And it might be within money laundering, asset identification, tracing, recovery to even cyber-enabled crimes, things like that. So Interpol is kind of the one-stop shop. And in addition, we do case coordination for member countries if there's a certain financial crime fraud scheme that they want us to help coordinate, then we can help facilitate that. The stronger that your network is internationally, the more effective that you'll be with addressing financial crimes at stand-age. Because a lot of the financial crimes that we're seeing doesn't happen traditionally just in one country, and that's it, it usually involves multiple countries. So the stronger that your network is within our member countries, the better chance that you'll have in a financial crime investigation.


for staying for some more databases and I'll maybe go a little straighter to the point the question of the sustainability and see how through our project RQGs we handle with these issues because it's an obvious question actually in France at least the technical questions I found were the easiest to solve because they they are just technical you need a good server you need your eyes you need to follow the inspire that kind of stuff once we discover it is pretty clear and to me the use and reuse of data seems the best way to guarantee the sustainability because if a project stopped but somebody reused the data somewhere else it is good just what is mentioned before even if it's some guys from the construction that reuse our data at least they will save them on their own servers so when they close all the universities we will have our data saved somewhere another thing is that I think that avoiding property formats always seem like the idea so because yes we have no money and it's complicated for our yeah universities to our work to pay every year for a software that kind of trouble and for end users it's the same for the students if you say yeah you have to buy an arctis license before you start a phd it is difficult and even for the solutions we offer that the users have no extra costs to pay also seem important for the sustainability of the projects as projects so when we look more specifically at the heritage management databases well you found them in most of the regions already in most in the countries they exist in very different quality very different we discussed this standard formats one program that we have as archaeologist is that archaeology is not always good described for example you often have just one cell for iron age but no difference between halstad and latin which is not very easy to handle and a lot of this project have a long history back in the 80s or even before and this is also a problem because you cannot track back who modified or who implemented the data this is really a problem for sustainability if you want to use something you want to know where it comes from and who manipulated it who made the mistakes and who how you can make it better so this is really very important and goes with the problem of the quality check that's always coming back when we discuss this then another problem is the access to the data in France which is in theory a centralized country in the Bretagne you have everything online in others you can get access to the data and in France it's impossible to get to access the data so it is always difficult it's yes part of the social contract when you have to discuss give me your data and this is a recurrent problem for us researchers but of course also for students or for a commercial archaeologist which has not always an easy access to this and the numerous databases that researchers or PhD students or projects created are mostly not incorporated in the archaeology archaeology heritage management databases I mean the data come in after the excavation after the rescue excavation but any further docs or projects reworking the data most of the time are not incorporated so those are the kind of problem that I think are important in these issues so well but the history as I said we go back in the 80s and nowadays you have a database and a GIS behind almost any work any map I mean maybe a few retired colleagues will draw the map from hand but most of us use GIS and one thing that is important and that makes a difference between archaeological data and other sciences is that we are aggregated means it is interesting to work with a data set from the 1980s or from the 1920s or for the 19th century even which is not true for several hard science colleagues and it's also goes further because archaeology uses a lot of environmental data which is difficult to place in the same scale yeah then we have the problem with gray literature I'm always envy the solution in the British area in Scotland or England where you have a lot of things online we are far not that good in France in between you have the interrupt data online through the FASTI online Ariadne project but for the other private companies you don't for the rescue excavation for the program excavation you don't so it is difficult and then you have the difficulty of the quoting and it's a difficulty for us and of course for people who start to work with with databases and of course with the increase of the data of the quantity of the data we need computers if you want to find what you search whatever this might be so I see different kind of databases that we aggregate or that we match in archaeology's master thesis catalogs phd thesis workshop or laboratory databases CRM or heritage databases field archaeology databases and all the analysis environmental or that kind of databases for the actual and for the past and bringing this together under one hat of course is difficult so all this kind of project we all the underlying databases you can imagine from dots from cultures from interpretations from drawing how do we reduce them to information data that we can share this is one of the cash question we asked plus what do we do with all databases that were put online through your Maison des sciences de l'homme as that's where I work you have 10 different databases and then you have your project from thousands of events you have a big european fossil problem database you maybe know how do we link all the projects and how do we know them because I mean we are the interested ones and I guess you're just like me you you note the all the sites where you have to go to check the the new data plus also the question how to quote do we quote tools do we quote the versioning do we quote who's the author is it a person is it an institution is it a grant our project and all those are a problem plus this yes so called a digital dark age so where is the former versions of our data where is the former version of our information and I guess you all know the travel about scales in space and time nested chronological systems between for example litigians and ceramologists or culturalists and holocene how do we integrate absolute datings with c14 that kind of stuff and how do we do the alignment the plurior interdisciplinary alignment so it is a lot of problem that we have one post solution is the free software that we developed in in Strasbourg and that I'm trying to sell you a free software so it's online it's free for your users of course of course it has a cost that it's not for the user it's multilingual which I think is very important multi chronology this also we found out you can't ask the authors who agree to give your database to match to your system so they give it in their system and then you can use it it's open to any scale except intra sites it's one of several tools of course there are a dozen of different tools I just mentioned two for for friends don't know for thousand friends you might check lateral dot net or the best fair for an patriarch is the national french database but difficult to access for a french researcher so I guess for foreigners even worse archaeologists already connects to some of those we do our best to improve so it's not that solution we are online but we are not completely open it means you need to ask a login and password we have the problem with looting in France the the texturing is forbidden so if we want to get some data at all we need this protected interface so so far we are behind login and password the idea was that anybody has access to a simple gis to build a query and to be able to map some dots basically it's what 90 percent of the students need and they don't really need queues or arches for their work they just need to put some dots on the screen so for example here iron age in the upper rhein valley we have friends we have germany we have two departments here we have four and we have data you see here from books from museums from phds and from environmental data also plus you can check if you want some here weapons from bronzator iron age from different books or phds it's a good teaching to any of you teaching gis it's more fun with the students to let them work on a real database on a real archaeological database plus it's free and what we aggregate also is a lot of links and I think this is very important to know the project from the others from the colleagues so where do I get some data well you also get it from all the existing projects and some sometime I click to a link and it's dead so that's a sustainability problem also yes when the name of our university or institute changes you have to yes change the access and don't always think this so we try to be accurate if you have a site with special data don't hesitate to contact us so I put you extra on the of course we have an index of the databases which were fed in archaeologists so one which is before your login and once you're logged in you get more data you got full metadata beyond inspire one of the problem being that the authors are really reluctant to complete this media data correctly what you also mentioned they give you the data and say yes just do it so this is a problem because it is it is difficult and then of course it's difficult for reuse we work on a simple bottom-up ontology alas it was before I discovered the cdox CRM and that kind of project but yeah the mandatory fields are a name of the site coordinates you will cope so you have to import an csv online and when you create a request you can get the csv back so this is the safest situation for sustainability of the data I guess we can you we will use csv files for a few decades or probably more in the computers uh we have of course a problem with the encoding where ujf 8 which is in some excel version pain in the ass if I may say so but it is important because of the umlaut because of the accent circonflet that kind of thing that you need when you work in humanities and so yeah this is a little difficult to explain to the people about the archive in France we have the chance to we are we are lucky we have cnrs and we have this humanium structure which uses parts of the servers from the cern so we have the best triple store red for whatever you can wish about this and they develop different tools uh naka has been very effective to create permalinks duis and it's also a very good tool for the data management plan because when you know when you apply for a grant you need this data management plan but in the end there's no real control about has it been done is it online where and it's maybe it's been checked in the six months after the end of the project but if far four five six years later you want to go on a site and get some archaeological data it's very often difficult so you're an example from the improvement program for my colleague for physically and how the dots appear in archaeology so it's just effective going back to the language because we are multilingual and I think it's important because it's not true that we all know enough English to properly describe the site at least in France so it's really important that we have yeah for now we are French German English Spanish is incoming and it is possible to open to more languages for the users and I think this is for sustainability important because elsewhere we are creating trouble in the database which we don't need it's it's complicated enough and I guess is it the ditch a picture hold a puzzle it's okay let me with my truth photo and for safe force there I know what it is and I absolutely have no problem of what I'm doing so we can implement more languages yes of course then we can go further and going further linking open data is for sustainability a very good solution it helps us to discover new projects and to create cultural knowledge so what I call cultural knowledge is when you aggregate databases you get more than just the sum of the dots you also have other things that appear and for example our colleagues from environment working on paleo channels are amazed to see our archaeological jobs they're absolutely not interested absolutely not interested if it's uh uh roman villa or Celtic hillfort they're interested in the bp ad dedication of the paleo channels I should finish so just finish uh finishing quick so uh I said it's multilingual multi chronologies not limited in a time of space we're just building our user communities don't hesitate to uh come to us and uh if uh you need something just uh try to be sure that a site works as long as it uses and I think this is really the most important rule about sustainability as long as somebody is using your data is using your site it will exist somehow but if it's get lost if it gets forgotten then it's lost so for now you can join the community on archaeogist.org for later we might refill the csv files somewhere else if a better project exists and if not we need to socialize and discuss about the databases to make sure that what we produce is not getting lost thank you


Hi Hey, you're doing great. Excellent. I promise this little bit where I actually talk to you guys and have actual content My talk is really really short. Then we're gonna actually go outside and do the fun stuff So what I want to talk about is called every pages page one has anyone heard of this this new to everybody You've heard of it. Okay. All right So every pages page one This is a documentation model essentially and what we're trying to do is break this idea of a book And this is something that the early speakers have all spoken about too books are boring books are dead And David Ryan mentioned it fairly extensively. We're not interested in books anymore It's all about getting content and getting content in a really efficient way So what we need to do is make sure that every topic that people hit is the first topic that they can read and it Makes sense within their context. So this is this is a book by Mark Baker. He has a website as well Which is quite interesting. I strongly suggest you read the book if you're interested in this kind of stuff, so I Know I know books are dead and actually mentions the irony of that in the beginning of his book It's like this is so crazy. I'm writing this book about every pages page one So what we're trying to sort of remove? remove ourselves from this strictly imposed order that books give us and move towards more a collection of content and The way I like to explain this to people is to talk about the difference between say encyclopedia Britannica and Wikipedia When you go to a Wikipedia page, it doesn't matter which page you read first and it doesn't matter what Information that you have in your head already that you bring to it if you don't understand something in a Wikipedia page You can click through and get more information Now I don't know any of you guys, but I want to demonstrate what my thought process looks like when I go and Look for information I'm one of these people who likes to read I like to watch movies and that kind of thing and I always like to do my tablets So I bought a 10-inch tablet so basically so that I could sit on the couch and look at IMDB and Wikipedia while I was going and I have this whole thing and it's I end up with all these questions about what I'm doing like, you know What was the what's the one I was thinking of that I was gonna go to men It's Genova.  That was one that I looked up Also is I came powder really tasteless. This was this was something that really came out and what was it? It was interesting to me So of course I've got my Android tablet I'm sitting there and the first thing I do is is Google it but I end up picking up all this rather random interesting stuff as well So I start out googling for Iocaine, right? Get sidetracked by dr. Who end up looking about binary stars and Then end up looking at random hip-hop artists that I've never heard of it. So who's done this? Have we all done this? Yes, exactly and this is what one page of every pages page one That's what this is about. It's being able to leap between this information in that kind of fashion So like I said wikipedia is a really great example You can read one page in isolation and then go on and get the information you need and move on or you can dig Deeper and keep going It also helps to cater for different knowledge and that's why I've put up a admittedly silly man page This is generator. It's a it's a git man page generator. It's funny. Go Google for it Um So basically what we're doing is saying you don't need to worry if you're writing something say you're writing something reasonably technically Complicated you don't actually need to worry about whether or not someone understands basic Linux commands because you could just To include a link they can go and look up those basic Linux commands if they want to they don't need it They can move right on it doesn't ruin their day So getting back to Epo the way of thinking about this is to turn the usual content generation model on its head Generally what we used to do is curate the content first and then produce that information for people all nicely digested What we're actually trying to do is put all the information out there and allow users to curate that themselves And a really good example of this is car sales comm that are you the reason I like this is because yeah I don't does actually say on there how many listings they have I think it does yes 201,000 this is a screenshot for a few days ago because I write my slides really late So yeah 200 200,000 200,000 listings there That's a lot of cards to go sifting through what you can do that is you can then narrow it down and what's a website to do this You use this you use these selectors down the side and all of a sudden you narrowed it down to the kind of car You want to make model you where it's located how much you want to spend all those kinds of things So this is the idea about curating content once it's been created Rather than the other way around so you know obviously eventually with car sales You find the perfect car for you and this is basically end user curation It's finest and this is where I'd like to get my documentation to So, okay, I promise that's the boring bit What I want to do is everyone aware of this book Is everyone know we're going on a band that anyway doesn't know we're going on a bear hunt. I'm sorry guys Okay, so I'll have to very quickly run you through the book. I promise I won't read it This is actually my daughter's book. It still has her name in it. She's sitting up there So, thank you Talia for the use of the book. So basically what happens is the family set out on a bear hunt Right and they've run into all these obstacles now a children's book and they're not scared not even a little bit So they run into all these obstacles that they can't they you know, they have trouble They can't go over it and they can't go under it and Talia and I always did wonder why they didn't go round a lot of things But they don't seem to they always end up going through it And so there's all these various obstacles now the interesting thing about children's books They're often presented in narrative form like this You start at the beginning and you go through to the end But the fact is it doesn't matter which order these obstacles come in you can get these get through these obstacles Any way you like either way you're still going to end up in the end with a Bear All right, you still get to the cave. You still get the bear You still get scared you have to run back through all the grass and the snowstorm and all those kinds of things And then you get home hide under the covers and that's the end of the story It's always happy ending the point I want to make is we always start and end at home But the things that we do while we're while we're out walking around in our adventure looking for a bear It doesn't matter which order they come in and so in order to demonstrate that I have several printouts from said book I have some Play-Doh because Play-Doh's fun, and I did Lego last year. I Also have some dice to add a little bit of error of chance into the game because you know bears are a bit chancey I also have chocolates to bribe you all to come out into the hallway and play with me So he's ready to go out and chase the bear Let's do it by show of hands not a tech writer There's your answer spin Yeah, sis admin software engineer What was that human and there's one human? What do you do? We don't have enough microphones To testing okay I'm kind of a big mess of things. I'm actually software developer really but at the moment. I do a support role in Docker and I'm one of the documentation to the maintainers and writers for the Docker project. So I Don't know what my role is either. I just do stuff. Yeah That's why I was asking the question then I guess I'll talk about that point


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Today I'm 21 month sober from cocaine. 21 month sober. That's a huge, huge, huge, huge, huge thing. If you want me to make some videos talking about my sobriety I'm more than happy to let me know in the comments.  If you're new here hi hello I'm Lydia and today I filmed a video earlier on doing a bit of an update Q&A. My camera died before I actually got into the full-on update and I've charged my camera up hungry. I feel like I'm gonna finish filming now. I just wanted to film a bit of an intro it's gonna be a bit of a justification as to why this video is a bit choppy and all over the place. Hey what's up you guys welcome back to my channel if you're new here hi hello I'm Lydia and today I'm doing an update video. Obviously you can see I'm out of hospital so this is a post hospital update video slash Q&A. It is all nor I'm doing a hell of a lot better than I was. I'm obviously not in hospital anymore which you know major, major plus. Today I decided that I wanted to do a video where I answer questions about what you guys want to know about what post hospital me is up to and how things are. So the first thing is how's the move going? So I'm actually moving in a week, one week and I'm moved. So yeah that's pretty exciting in one week I won't be living in London anymore. I'm super excited about the move and you best believe that I'm recording it because I 100% am. So the first question is how are you coping after being in and out of hospital for two months? A lot better than I was. The last two weeks I was in hospital I was under a section. I honestly feel a lot better right now than I did before. I want to be alive. I'm looking forward to things in the future which is more than I could say about me a few weeks ago. The next question is your plans after being discharged? Some of my plans are I move in a week, I want to get a job and I just want to work on myself and be well and be stable and hopefully have no more hospital admissions. How do you honestly feel about that whole situation? I have a lot of feelings about everything that went on. About the attempt I'm still a bit, it's hard to comprehend how bad things actually got for me to do what I did. So that's that's still hard to come to terms with. About being discharged I feel very confident that I can keep myself safe and out of hospital. I have plans for the future. Things crossed and let's just keep going. Are you living with your parents now? No. Do you have any life plans and future ambitions? So long term obviously I graduate this year. I want to get a job this year. I want to start working not necessarily in what I got my degree and I want to start my post-grad degree. I want to keep going. I want to keep fighting. I want to keep being me. Being in and out of hospital is a really really hard situation. Especially with in hospital you don't know when you're going to get transferred, if you're going to get transferred, how long you're going to be there. You don't know any of that. I actually filmed a mini update video while I was in hospital and I'll play a clip for you now. So change of my plans for the day. I'm getting transferred award which is fine just means that I'm not going to have my leave and I'm going to award that was pretty horrific to me. So I'm probably going to be doing that for YouTube to go by right. Let's pack up my things anyway. My camera died. The clips you just saw were an update from when I was in hospital and I was getting transferred and the transfer terrified me. I was so convinced that I wouldn't be able to be discharged because I was aiming for the discharge that week and I was doing really well. I was working really hard on myself and I was putting so much effort into trying to be the best I could be to be discharged. I was so scared that getting transferred undid all that because when I got transferred I lost my leave. The new award wouldn't let me have leave and I was so convinced that all the work and all the effort that I'd put in had just gone out the window and that I was going to be in hospital for another few weeks trying to rebuild what I'd already built up and it scared me a lot. It was a really scary time. Like I said when you're in hospital you don't know what's going to happen because you're not in control of things and being in hospital is something I talk about quite a lot because I've spent a lot of time in the last few years inpatient. Being in hospital is a scary experience.  It takes time to get used to it. It takes time for you to start working on yourself. It doesn't just happen the moment you step through the door. The moment you step through the door you're terrified. You don't know what's gonna happen that if you don't know where you're gonna end up.  It's a scary time. When I had my ward round on the second ward when I'd been transferred I didn't know that I was in it discharged. I was I went into it not really knowing what was going to happen. Of course my aim was still to try and get discharged and obviously I did get discharged but when I went in I was so anxious because I had no clue what this consultant was gonna say and the consultant was lovely and listened to everything I had to say and worked with what the doctor on the previous ward had been working on with me which was a discharge and discharged me that day and you know it was the best feeling ever. We told her we're gonna discharge you off your section today. It's the best feeling in the world and I can't explain that. Since coming out of hospital I found that I'm trying to just stick to a schedule. I'm sticking to the times that I took my medication on the ward. I'm sticking to a medication time schedule. I'm trying to stick to a routine. I'm trying to do stuff in the day that I was doing on the ward. I'm trying to make sure I'm not just sitting around doing nothing. I'm trying to make sure that I'm ready to move next week. I'm trying to make sure that I don't relapse. Like I'm trying so hard at the minute and I don't think I can sit and explain that to a camera. Like how hard I'm trying and working on myself at the moment. Like I'm finding film videos really hard at the minute. I'm finding it really anxiety provoking. Well since coming out of hospital I've been doing okay and I'm safe and that's what matters to me. So yeah this is the life update. This is how things are. There's nothing big or dramatic going on. I'm keeping myself safe and getting ready to move. To go for quite a big move actually. Tomorrow I'm seeing my psychiatrist last time which that'll be emotional because the psychiatrist has helped me so much over the last two years. So it's gonna be emotional but I know this move is what's right for me. It's the right time to move. And the only way I can move on is to drop my life here and move away. It's the only way I can pick myself back up. And saying that is it is scary and you can probably tell that there's some anxiety in me about that but it's the right decision. I want to say thank you to my patrons and thank you to people who support me on my other social media. If you don't follow me follow me over on TikTok, Instagram, Twitter. That's what I'm most active. Anyone who supports this channel and supports me and supports anything that I do thank you so much. You have no idea how much it means to me. Like I said thank you to everyone who has supported me through everything that's been going on. Your support is so valuable and I can't explain to you how much it means to me. Thank you for supporting me. Thank you for being here and I'll see you guys soon in a new video. Peace.