Hello and welcome to the live stream today. We're talking about the stream deck plus once again I talked about it last week, but I didn't actually have one in my hands So we we've got to want to actually play with today I've already been through and dug into it obviously it just arrived a couple of days ago But I thought what we'd do is just go through and do a complete fresh install. Sorry about being a little bit late I was chatting in the discord by the way So that's what we're going to be doing today And so let's get straight on into it shall we and I'll talk about my initial impressions of it It is obviously the same high quality build quality as all the other stream decks in terms of the the size Here's how it looks next to the stream deck XL I mentioned about this last week, but the buttons I do wish that they had stuck with the original size buttons So you can see that you've got these four large buttons here that are essentially just regular stream deck buttons So you'll see as we go through we can program those so those just work exactly as you've been used to We've got the touch strip here This displays some information on it, but it's also touch sensitive so you can swipe between pages and things like that The other thing that we've got is these little dials and they do feel very nice to twiddle So there's really sort of high quality there and then they are also push buttons But I still can't help thinking that these eight buttons here And if you actually look at the size of the buttons on the stream deck XL in the same sort of width as you've Got those four buttons you probably could have fit another maybe two columns So you could have had six by two instead of four by two And I think that would have been a great move really because then you would have had the 10 buttons at the top sorry 12 buttons at the top and then 13 14 15 16 So it would have made it effectively a sort of 16 button because all of these have got a push button as well That you can operate from there as well. So it basically would have been Effectively like one more button than the regular stream deck plus four dials Whereas as it is it's got these sort of eight buttons And I just feel like it could have had a few more really because would I recommend this to someone I'm jumping straight ahead to the recommendations aren't I would I recommend they Recommend this to someone over a regular stream deck probably not to be honest I'd probably still recommend the stream deck XL over this one Unless you are going to be using the audio features that that you've that this now opens up or if you really need those dials I've got some thoughts about those dials as well though So let's let's dig into it shall we and I'll just say a couple of hellos the comments seem to be a bit slow coming through There we go. Oh, there we go. They've just popped up Hey, Rob great to see you in here And I've just seen your picture by the way in the ecum group with the the all the gear that you've bought for another Studio build I can't wait to see what you're gonna come up with Look forward to seeing what you're building. Hey Andy great to see you as well So let's dig into the software as well because there's been a couple of changes to the software to obviously allow us to Control the dial. So this is stream deck software version six By the way, if you are on any other stream deck as well There's a couple of things that they've changed in here Namely the positions of some of the stream deck actions So if you remember before they had basically system where you've got things like websites hotkeys and all that kind of stuff But then there was another one that was called just stream deck and that had a whole load of things Well, they've actually split that out into three different menus now So you've got stream deck which includes timer brightness and sleep So basically controlling things on the actual stream deck itself the sort of appearance of it I guess and then you've also got the navigation section now So that includes things like create profile. Sorry create folder profile switch next and previous page Go to a specific page in your profile and then also the page indicator So that's sort of split out now into its own sort of little navigation section And by the way when you install the new update these two new sections the navigation and this next one I'm going to talk about multi-action. So here they've split out multi-action multi-action switch and random action I always like that idea a random action. You just press a button on your stream deck and who knows what it's going to do Of a list of things you've given it. I'm sure there's a good use case for that But yeah, so these two here navigation and multi-action when you update your stream deck These two are going to be right down at the bottom of the list So just be aware of that when you update that, you know, if you go into the stream deck section here looking for You know these ones You might wonder where they've gone. Have they yet vanished? Well, no, they haven't they now in these two new sections So that's just something to be aware of whichever kind of stream deck you're on They've also changed some of the icons of these a little bit. I'm not sure whether it's for the the better or worse So like next or previous page They've got these slightly different icons to them now. So it looks like that By the way, I'm adding next and previous page onto here One of the great things about the stream deck plus though is that you don't actually need these buttons for pages You can just do it with a swipe. So if I swipe back and forth, you can see how it's flicking back and forth on those pages So I'm just literally swiping on that touchscreen I do like that that basically saves an extra couple of buttons there that you otherwise otherwise would need So that's about it in terms of the actual changes to the regular part of the software But of course now we also have this dials section over here And this opens up basically the wavelength I'll come to the wavelength one in a moment But when you first install this it's gonna have a stream deck and so we've got dial stack and brightness I'll talk to you all these obviously system and then we've got the control center and by the way I'm on a Mac obviously so this is all gonna be Mac centric But there may be other functions that open up if you're on a PC. I'm not quite sure if there's any extra functionality I think there is more to do with controlling system audio potentially on a PC But don't quote me on that But then we've also got this one wavelength And this is gonna be one of the main things I can be talking about today because actually plugging the stream deck into your computer opens up the wavelength software and this is the software that is used for controlling audio on your computer and Audio from your mic Previously this was only available if you were using an Elgato wave microphone or the Elgato wave XLR So that's the the sort of box that sits on your desk that you can plug an XLR mic in take it in over USB and so that would be the only two ways that you could actually use the wavelength Software well now with this as long as you've got this plugged in then the wavelength software is unlocked and we'll talk about that a little bit later So so yeah, let me just come to the this comment here because Andy's saying hopefully Ecam brings functions to the volume. I'm sure they're working on it I'm pretty positive that they're working on it because obviously we've already got control over Volume and things like that on on loop deck and with the loop deck plug-in So yeah, this is just a matter of time before that is that is added in there so In terms of the the actual functionality of you know programming this it's essentially exactly the same as we used to Simplicity drag and drop so you can just drag things from here over onto the other side So if I come over to this one, we've got just a brightness. This is brightness of the device itself So if I turn this one up and down it is going to be adjusting the brightness of the actual device Let me just take that out there Then also we've got a just temperature a big one. That is the You beg your pardon. This one is the one for the the Algarve the device itself So this is changing the brightness up and down on the screen there You can see it sort of dimming the screen and turning it up. So that's brightness on the device This one is for your computer now apart from that though We've got dial stack or come to that in a moment But apart from that there doesn't seem to be a huge amount of sort of functionality for these dials just yet Obviously people are going to be building out their own plugins So, you know when you go and look in any plug-in that you've already downloaded Then if there is something associated with that that would have a sort of a dial function Then that will be in here But at the moment there isn't a huge amount in there However, there is this hotkey and this is the one where we can really do a whole load of things So basically you've got to rotate counterclockwise Rotate clockwise and then press to tap. So if you've got a piece of software You know where you have I don't know zoom it might be command plus or something like that zoom in Command minus is zoom out and Then that would just be a case of going and assigning that in here. So command plus for Clockwise whoops do this way and command minus. So now as I rotate that dial What that's going to do is basically zoom in and out on you know using that that hotkey. You've also got a push to Press a tap. So this is basically anything you assign here Let me just assume that might be I don't know command P or something like that So that is just the same as assigning a hotkey on us on a regular stream deck button But there it's going to be if you actually press the button in and then also it works if you actually tap on the screen So there's two different ways that you can activate that press to tap either the actual touch screen Or it's going to be for pressing by pressing the dial in now The reason why they've got those two different ways to do that is because there is in fact this other thing here called dial Stack and what that allows you to do if I just drag that onto one of here That basically has a similar sort of format to you know If you're familiar with the way that we program multi actions or something like that in the the stream deck Then it looks the same as that so when you've got a dial stack activated here You can see here the contents zero actions Well, what I can do in there is I can just drag in a whole load of other Actions and hotkeys in there and so if I was to do drag this one in for example, and then let me say a just brightness Let me come into wavelength. I'll do this one a little bit later It would make a lot more sense, but you can see here how we've got three different actions Now associated with that particular dial and then the way that that works is as I press the the button It's basically going to cycle through those different actions So you can see that as I'm pressing the button it's cycling through them So what that means is although you've only got four dials you might want to have I mean Let's come back to to Andy and talking about the the volumes in ecam. Let's say you've got You know a volume slider for each individual guest which we have in ecamp Well, then you could say that you know one of these is for guest audio And you could just sort of press the button to sort of flick between the different guests Guess one two three and four and just dial them all in and then it's only taking up one button on the actual device So I really like this this idea of a dial stack It means that you do have a whole load of functionality because usually you're not really twiddling all the different dials as you're going along At any given time it's more a case of you know, sort of fine-tuning things and then leaving them is often the case Or like you know in photo shot one of the ways that I use loop deck and I'll talk about loop deck more again Later as well But one of the ways I use my loop deck is in photo shot where I have it for you know Adjusting brush sizes and all that kind of stuff. So that's where I use the dials in in there So I like the the stacks. I think that works really well and it's um, yeah Arguably a better implementation than loop deck as well. Whereas loop deck you've got sort of pages of of dials Um, this seems seems a more intuitive way of doing it to me because you've basically got, you know A particular dial for some particular context and then you're just sort of clicking one dial to cycle through them But you still have all of the other dials, you know as you've set those whereas with the pages on the loop deck Um, you're basically, you know, you've got sort of three keys down this side if you swipe up Then it's um, you know, you've got a whole You're changing everything rather than just the one dial. Maybe I'm not articulating that very well, but hopefully you get the point So just a quick couple of hello's hello chris great to see you here. What have you missed? Nothing much. The stream deck plus is finally here. So, uh So, yeah, the ecum group are obviously going to come up with some great ways Oh, glad to see you've just received yours as well. Fantastic. So you're having a bit of a geek out geek out as well It is indeed keely finally here. Um, I it was supposed to I said last week it was going to be here on monday It didn't end up arriving till uh, thursday. So, uh, there you go. Just got held up for further in customs But that is one of the small prices you pay for living in a tropical paradise Um, so anyway, let me just carry on for a second and One of the things about these these dials and the hotkeys I was almost ready to use this as my my doorstop However However, there is one thing that I do with this that I still can't do on the the stream deck plus Um, and I'll be putting in a feature request for this obviously, but uh, so what I do with the loop deck is I've got a button that activates the the zoom feature on my screen. So the by zoom I mean the uh, the accessibility zoom that allows you to zoom in on the the screen And then this dial here Basically simulates a command and the scroll wheel on the mouse. So if I was to just go into Uh, my live demo mode, which I can do from here as well. Uh, just for a second Uh Is this going to work? Of course, it's not going to work. I'm doing a demo. Of course, it's not going to work Uh, let me try that. Oh, there we go. It's going on the wrong screen What I'll have to do is I'll have to just move my ecum window over a second There we go. I'll put this over here. Right. Now if I go into my, uh, demo mode, command D Now it's sharing another window There we go, right. Uh, so if I activate this, um No, it's not working. Of course, it's not working. Of course, it's not working while I'm doing demo. Never mind. Forget that But what I have it set up to do when it's, uh, decides to play ball with me Is that I have the dial actually simulate the command and the scroll in, uh, the the mouse because that's how you actually activate the scroll on the on the screen When let me, uh, let me just try this one more time because otherwise this might not be making any sense at all Give this another go Okay, so there you can see There you can see that I'm, uh, zoomed in on I'm sharing my whole screen But if I activate this mode, I can basically zoom in on any area And that is basically just using the scroll wheel on my mouse to zoom in and out Whilst holding down the the control key Um, so what I have that set up on my loop deck is that I have this button here Is basically if I press it it activates the, um, the zoom and then the scroll turning this dial left and right Basically does that zooming in and out Um, so that's what I was hoping to be able to replicate with this stream deck. Plus however, um, what you can't do on there at the moment is You'll notice that we've got rotate counterclockwise It is still only keystrokes, uh, which is you know, what we've only had up until now in any case So there's nothing strange about that But one of the things that is quite good about loop deck is you've also got mouse gestures And I would love to see mouse gestures in here because then that would mean that you would be able to use the The dials for things that do involve mouse gestures often You might want to do something where you want to pan to the left pan to the right And you do it with a mouse, you know Often there's something where you hold down a key a shift key for example And then scroll, you know up on down and left and right to pan around I know certainly in some of the 3d software that I use for design Those have those kind of functions based, you know where you use the mouse for that So lots of applications where I could see mouse gestures being really useful on these dials And so for me, it would just be a case just a simple case of Elgato adding those in to here as well. So whereas we've got the They these sort of keystroke type things Yeah, adding in mouse gestures like we've got with the with the loop deck would be would be great Good call Chris is Chris is waiting to see if he wins the the giveaway before he orders his loop deck Well fingers crossed it's sorry loop deck stream deck plus. I suppose that's probably a good point to say Yeah, if you haven't already if nobody has entered yet Then definitely enter the giveaway you can find a link in the description also in the chat as well The draws coming up actually it's going to be on monday or tuesday so the day after cyber monday anyway, so yeah, hopefully I hope you all win although there is only one it's not this one by the way as well So I should say for full disclosure Elgato sent me this But you all know that I would have bought one anyway So I figured well the one that I'm going to buy I'll just buy and give it away So that's where the giveaway comes, but I'm definitely hanging on to this I do I do I do really like the functionality and interesting to see where it's where it goes So the stream deck plus is better than I thought it would be Yeah, the dials are really useful So we've already seen you know some of the ways that you can use dials with loop deck and I do I do like it I just do wish that they had put a few more buttons and I do you know what? I know exactly where the the design conversation went with this because What they've done is they've essentially got these these four dials down at the bottom You couldn't really have these much tighter because they would be tricky to sort of get your fingers around And so I think that the design team Said well, we've got four dials down here. So we need these to all line up So that we've got basically, you know a button a button here and then two buttons above it I think that that is the reason why they yeah that why they went with those just so that it all looks Neat in comparison to to the things below, but I actually don't think that was a great decision to be honest I think that as I say you could fit 12 you can fit six by six, you know six at the top and six at the bottom So you could have fit 12 buttons on there, and I think that would have been better and uh, yeah I have I'm not going to I'm not going to start to start being really picky about this But I'm the kind of person who notices these things one of the things about the the stream deck Excel is if you measure the distance between this button and the side here and this button in the side the bottom and this button And the side there those are all exactly the same the top is bigger But then that's got the logo on it so it doesn't look look out of place This one is as if nobody actually got a ruler out and measured things because the distance between This little bezel here and the bottom of the screen is different to the difference The distance between the top of the screen and this button there um And then the difference between the distance between this uh, this little bit down at the side and this one on the The bit at the bottom and the bit on either side is different as well now. Nobody else is going to notice that I'm just a Weird person like that that's a part of my background in architecture. I noticed these things I uh, I used to get uh, I used to make people really annoyed I think on the sites Because I'd go in I'd notice things that were like a millimeter out of line in a house Because I come from actually an aeronautical background. So uh, yeah millimeters matter there whereas they probably don't so much in architecture But I would still notice them. So I do notice these little details. Um, but I digress I think that that is the reason why they've gone with these four buttons They said in the elgato video that the reason why they made them bigger was because they wanted them to be more Glanceable so people can look down and see what they're looking at I actually don't think anyone was particularly complaining about the size of the other buttons as anybody in the chat Had issues with these buttons not being big enough to see um I don't know. Maybe maybe if people are writing on them, I suppose then that might be part of it But if you've got nice little icons, then uh, yeah, I've never had an issue with being able to glance down and see what What's going on with them? Um, but um, but anyway, I digress I don't want to be too picky about this because I do really like this this device um, the other thing then that uh, that is a real selling feature for this I think is the fact that it does open up this wavelength software and I haven't dug into it completely to uh To look at how i'm going to use this with the roe caster. Um, but It is um, it is a great piece of software specifically for people who don't have a roe caster I don't want a roe caster or something like that and they've got some other microphone going into their computer Maybe usb might maybe the mv7 over usb, which does have some audio processing built into it as we know um, and I was really happy using the wrote the mv7 over usb, um, but um, yeah, the wave Link software is uh, is really impressive. So let's take a little look at that and yeah, great to see Everybody is seeing their buttons just fine. So I think that our whole thing of it being glanceable is uh, It's a bit of a non-thing really Um So uh, so yeah And and and often, you know often when people are always conscious of it's all very well for me to sit here and say oh Well, they should have had more buttons, but it's um, there's often, you know Some sort of hardware consideration that you haven't thought about and and so on however Actually in this case from a hardware point of view Uh, it's just a case of there is a board in here where these buttons are I don't think there would be any physical reason why they couldn't have had those things in there In fact also somebody in our little creators pod Uh podcast group also, uh mentioned was it keely or was it dina? It was one of the two about the the tooling, uh, you know They've had to actually make new buttons and new tooling for all of that as well So, uh, they've actually given themselves an extra task. Anyway, I'm not gonna Go on about that too long because It's not really a major major point. Is it let's um come over to uh to the wave link software though And I'll show you kind of what this looks like. So it's just freshly installed Um, I've I have obviously played with it. I've stripped it all out to show you where we start from with it though And this is basically what it starts out at and now if I unplug my, uh, my My stream deck, uh, what you see is it basically says you've got a connector wave device for it to work So it's literally locked unless you've got a Elgato wave microphone the Elgato wave XLR or if I just plug the stream deck Plus in um, then it just unlocks the software. So there we go. It's unlocked. So that's what I mean when I say unlocks the the software Hey, Michelle great to see you popping in here. Um, and so Let me just come back over here. So basically here you can just add multiple different inputs And we'll see how this all relates back to this this stream deck plus in a moment But here you can create a whole series of different inputs and then have control over the audio This will all start making sense very soon. So here I've got various different applications open So let's just say I'm going to add in discord So now we've got this thing for discord We've got basically two different outputs. So we've got a monitor mix So that is, you know, where you're going to monitor what's going on Um, and then you've got the stream mix, which is what's going to go out into your stream or into Whatever software that you're using And I can just go in here and add all sorts of different things. So maybe I want to have Google chrome as well. Maybe I'm going to be playing something in there that I want to feed the audio back in What else might I have zoom? Obviously might be in there as well So you've got various different applications that you can add into there Um, I've at the moment, I'm using my row caster. So, uh, let's just sort of Pretend that I've got a mic added So obviously this is the whole point of the software is to actually use with your microphone So if I just add this one in let's just assume that that one And you can see I can just reorder that Around very easily with just sort of drag and drop. So let's say that this is going to be my main microphone Um, and here we've got the different levels. So I can use this slider I can adjust the level in my monitor mix Versus in the stream mix those can be independent But you can also link them together like that and then we you can see that They move up and down relative. So it doesn't lock them at exactly the same level You can see you can still have that sort of differentiation between or differential between the two of them And then you can just slide them up and down like that You can also mute them Into any one of those mixes as well And so yeah, it's pretty good in terms of being a general sort of mixing Mixing desk virtual mixing desk if you like where you can get all of these different levels, right? And then in terms of the sort of output. So here this is going into the stream The stream mix is going to this stream output And here you can just send it direct to it'll tell you your particular Application that you're using if I bring over zoom for example And then here we've got the microphone the way that this is going to show up in Zoom or anything else is Here where you see this wavelength stream Wavelength microphone effects. I'll come back to that one in a little moment. That's something different But wavelength stream is basically meaning You are going to get the audio from all of these different things Going out to this this stream Now it doesn't have mix minus as such however You can actually mute things on a channel by channel basis So let's just say that you were using this with with zoom for example And you wanted to have you know your different audio going in there You could say right. Well, actually I want to exclude zoom from the mix that's going back into zoom And so that's effectively mix minus then if you've selected that as your input into into zoom And then you might want to exclude the chat for example in your discord So you might be doing something in zoom with a discord going in a sort of back channel And you want to just exclude those both from the mix. So in effect It's similar to the rooting table that we've got on the road caster By the way, I am going to be doing a full full review and video Of the of the wavelength software because there's a lot a lot to dig into with it Maybe even an entire course. Who knows? But but that's how easy is to just sort of add things into here And then let's just link this back for a moment I'll come back to some of the processing you can do with the wavelength software as well But if I come back to the the stream back software now And what I'm going to do is just actually delete these ones that I've put in here like this And now what we can do is if we come to the wavelength Plugin by the way the wavelength software you'll have to download I'll leave a link to that in the description For the the actual software that we just looked at you'll also have to go into the stream deck store to get the wavelength plugin It's not there just sort of by default But once you have done that then you've got input actions and output actions So those four things that we just added in are all inputs And you can see that if I drag one of those on Then you can choose the input and it's basically got the names of those ones that we've just added in So it's pulling in the names that we've got for our four inputs We've got this this is effectively a mic input google chrome discord and zoom So if I come back over here, those are the choices we've got the mic input the google Chrome discord or zoom So we could choose any one of those and now what's going to happen is as I turn the the dial Let me just come back to oh on by the way You've got to basically the choice of remember we've got the monitor mix or the stream mix Or you can choose to do all of them. So if I set that to all and then I come back over here What's going to happen is as I turn this dial you can see how it's moving both of those up and down If I change it to just the monitor mix Guess what it's going to adjust the monitor mix You can also adjust the step size. So that is how sort of how much it's going to go down by with each one of those little ratchets So that is what we've got down here And so now if I turn it it's going to be sort of more aggressive on that You know the amount that it turns it up and down by So that is how you can basically control that the other thing that we could do here is Remember I was talking about those dial stacks. Well, what you might want to do is say, okay I'll put a stack over here And then in here what we'll do is we'll just have all the different volume controls Or level controls for those different things Hey, thank you very much for the super chat Jason. That is much appreciated Long-time lurker first time comment it comment it. Well, welcome to the stream. It's great to see you here And thank you so much for the super chat. That is really much much appreciated And obviously any questions from anybody let me know and hey great to see you here as well as always My real name is made up. I do. I don't love your handle So, um, uh, where was I? Oh, yeah. So the the dial stacks Yeah input action over here. So here we've got this one. So let me change that to say the microphone This one we can change to google chrome This one we can change to discord and this one we could change to be Zoom so now if I come back out of here, then this is the the thing that I was talking about before where you might want to Have one dial But that basically you can just cycle through and adjust your different apps And what you might notice there is that it is actually Sort of changing the icon. So you've got the little google chrome icon in there And in fact, can you see this properly? Let me just see if that is any better So you can see the the icon. Maybe you can't see that any better You can see the icon and the percentage as well. So as I turn that up and down And if I cycle through then you'll see the icon changing. It looks like that's a bit too washed out, doesn't it? Never mind You get the idea. Hopefully So it's a great way of having all those different things on that, you know An individual button for all of the different levels and you just be able to sort of cycle through them like that The other thing that you've got in terms of the wavelength is as well as the input actions Then we've also got output actions And this is going to adjust the levels of either the monitor mix or the stream mix And so that is basically the master level So if I change that to stream mix and then let me just come over to it once again Then you'll see that as I rotate that Whoops wrong one. Where's it gone? There we go. You can see how that's the master output just down at the bottom here Of the stream. It's moving those ones up and down Unfortunately, no doc. We can't we can't do that. Actually, I say that you probably could couldn't we could probably link it into something So we'll see Oh, hey, Hank. Great to see you here. Thank you very much for stopping by and if you've got any questions Do do let me know as well So, so yes, that is the the the dials and how they relate to the wavelength software, but what's really great It's Let me just read that I'm having one of those moments where I go to read something and then I realize I haven't processed the stands Sentence happy buy stuff at the price. It really should be day All right. I get you. Yeah. Yeah I've just I've just figured it out Pithe buy stuff at the price. It should really be be with day as opposed to black Friday Um, so anyway, let's uh, have a look at what else this can do then so in the software as well as the Just, you know, obviously being able to control levels of all of these things um What you can do also is um, if I come into here, you've also got um effects Let me just come down to this one down at the bottom. I click in the right place You got this one for effects and this is where I think that this is really powerful because it has got a lot of Great onboard processing. So if I'll just move this over here We go click on effects audio effects so here we've got um Bandpass delay distortion dynamic processor filter graphic eq high shelf High shelf filter high pass low shelf filter low pass and so on So there's lots of different functions here. And if you think about on the roadcaster, uh, the sort of functionality we have there for processing with things like compressor, uh, the Low pass filter to sort of block out. Sorry high pass filter to block out the low end noises Um, and the the noise gate and things like that Well, now we've got all of that in here Sort of built in in a sort of virtual sense, but there's actually a load more Functionality in here. So this is going to be a whole video series really on exactly how to use all of these because if you are Not a roadcaster pro user On you're not using any external thing This actually opens up a whole load of um, you know, really great processing that you've got To add to your mic if you're just, you know, whatever kind of microphone you're using So i'm certainly going to be digging into that Um, oh, are they are really? Oh, that's where they come from. Those are the default apple audio filters. Ah, well, there you go Then i've learned something new Um, but yeah being able to go in let me just open them up and i'll show you how they how they look then Whoops, where's it gone? um So for example, if you add one of these in they all open up in their own little Windows, so if I open up the dynamic processor, for example, this is effectively like the compressor um, and Then we've got others in here. I'll just open it up a couple of these. Whoops that's random to sort of show you They all basically I click in the right place Uh, they all basically sit in their own little windows So if I open up like the the eq, for example, then there we've got an eq and you can adjust the levels on that This isn't applied to my microphone at the moment. This is just to sort of almost a dummy mic So you can basically just sort of apply all of these different levels Um, and as I say each of these is just its own little window But what then happens is you've then you can see here that this has got some effects applied to it You can also change the audio of these effects as well Because it doesn't matter which order these things go in You know if you're removing background noise and then you're doing something to boost the You know some lower end or something you don't want to do those in the wrong order So that you're actually boosting a problem before it's being removed But anyway, that is how you you sort of add in different effects I'm not going to go through all this now I will make a full video on as I say all of these different effects But what you've then got is you can see that this has then got some effects applied to it So this little green in fact, I'm just hiding this up with doc's comment. There we go This little green icon at the bottom. This is where you go to apply the effects But it also shows you where effects are applied and you can toggle them On and off from there as well You can choose whether you want it to go into the headphone mix the monitor mix Or into the stream mix so you can toggle those on and off from here And just coming back to the settings for a second Where we had the the microphone before The sorry using it as a mic input for a particular device Application so we've got wavelength stream We've also got wavelength microphone fx and that is if you want to just take only your microphone Into that particular application But you do want it to have all of those those effects applied because this one is basically The wavelength stream Is going to take in absolutely everything that you've got You know in that in that mix all of those different channels Whereas the wavelength microphone fx is literally just going to take your microphone with those effects Applied to it. So obviously you may not want to have Absolutely everything going in there. You might just want your mic with the mic effects. So that is is what that's for So for me, I think that this stream deck Sorry wavelength software is A sort of killer feature of the stream deck plus because it does open up all of this functionality, you know What is a really, you know comprehensive processor for people who aren't using the the Elgato wave mics So you could be using as I say the short mv7 or any other microphone Any of the road mics as well. So the road have got a whole range of usb mics So it'll be able to be used with that and road obviously do have their own software which came out the road x Software which came out along with the new road x mic as well I was really excited about that and then I was disappointed on release day when it was windows only Because that seems like a massive Sort of a gap there to to not have it be on on the mac as well But the the road x software is kind of similar to this It's basically, you know being able to do mixing and you know Take things that you can do on the roadcaster Into the the computer in a virtual sense But for it not to be on mac is just a bit of a a bit of a Dropped ball in my in my in my estimation So being able to do that all with the wavelength now Is one of the reasons why I think that this is a is going to be a great device that I'd recommend I do wish I had more buttons. I do see it as being a companion device to a stream deck if you're doing a lot of, you know heavy Automation and things like that on your computer Then certainly the more buttons for me the better I'm still considering even with this one An additional 32 key stream deck It would just make more sense as well as well as this But it is a great sort of companion device for the others and these audio Things are going to be really good. I'm looking forward to Playing about more with the wavelength software and using it in conjunction with the roadcaster pro 2 because at the moment The way that I have the roadcaster pro 2 setup is I've got the Three I've got the microphone. I've got three channels which are coming out over usb They're going into my computer and I use one of those for discord one for ecamm and then one for zoom And then my actual system audio I'm bringing in out of the headphone jack in the back of the computer and that is going into one of the a stereo pair of Phono jacks in the back of the of the back of the roadcaster And so what that means is using the elgato wavelength software Coming into that fourth channel It means now I really have got absolute total control over all of the different audio sources on my on my computer So, you know an individual one with mix minus for zoom discord and ecamm for live streaming and recording and then Complete control of everything else on the other fourth channel So, uh, yeah, I'll be definitely doing a whole load more videos all about this software in particular Hey parker great to see you here Uh, oh you like the wavelength too. I know I've just recognizing the I'm recognizing the characters in your name What's your name by the way? I'm recognizing the tie writing. I'm currently live streaming from non-kai. So somebody cup um and Oh, bicky, I've got I've got to say I love the picture that you posted on twitter of Of your setup. You've got to tell me more about what it is exactly you do with that because it looks awesome. Yeah I liked not only the fact that first of all four stream deck excels. There's that obviously But just the whole sort of layout of it and how neat and tidy it was. Yeah, I'd love to know more about what you're doing with that Um But uh, but yeah, it looked it looked absolutely awesome that did so. Yeah, you can never never have too many Michelle's in the chat as well and Michelle had for the longest time a stream deck mini. Uh, and then we all kept All kept teasing about it. And then she's like, oh, okay, then stand back everyone And now I think she's got three stream deck excels as well So, uh, it's amazing how how you can find uses for these and it's one of the things that I would say to people If they're trying to decide should I get the 15 key or the 32 key? Um, I always recommend the the 32 because it's um Yeah, it's uh, it's you can always find the use uses for those buttons once you've actually got them in front of you Um, when I bought my first stream deck or this one, which is this one, um, I um, yeah I thought I'd be using it for switching scenes on um, uh, you know just on ecamm, but uh Uh, but then you get it and you realize there's so much more that you can do Yeah Or excels you'll have to you'll have to tell me more bicky about your use case Uh, you're waiting to get the the plus it is a great sort of companion Excuse me. It is a great companion, uh device to the stream deck excel because of the buttons um And you have indeed got to uh got to start somewhere. Um There's an offer on I think the regular stream decks. So this one is 199 on um, uh on amazon there is a um, I think a discount on the stream deck excel on at the moment on amazon Not a huge amount. It's like 14 off or 15 off or something like that. So And hello and welcome to the stream by the way. I should say as well or any um Yeah, so a couple of other things I mean, I've I've sort of had a couple of complaints about this already. Haven't I like the it could have had more buttons I still can't get over why they've made this base a screw in base though There's two there's two actual screws. So whereas with the uh, the streamed excel It just pops off the magnetic base and okay, it is a bit big and clunky But actually that adds to the weight of it. That's why it sits so well on the desk Compare that to the loop deck. Um, I do like the sort of portability of the loop deck And it's got this little sort of kickstand at the back Um, but the um, but this one to have a an actual screw in base on the bottom I think it's uh, it's just a bit of a weird design choice And the other thing about it is that the cable comes out of the back and it comes out You know perpendicular to the back as well So this is never going to lie down flat on your desk and you might say, all right Well, you know, why would you want it to lie down flat on your desk? But a couple of reasons first of all I do sometimes Use this one flat So I will sometimes take it out and just put it next to my computer and the way that they've got the cable in the back of the excel Um, you know, you can actually root the cable out of the back And then it will sit flat on the desk, you know next to a keyboard So it does sort of make sense to use it like that sometimes So I will sometimes have that down like that Also, if I'm traveling then I will take this with me and just take it without the base So it will sit down like that. Uh, this one, you're not going to be taking this traveling Unless you're taking a little screwdriver with you. Um, and it is a shame that it won't lie down flat I'm not quite sure the reason for that um You know, obviously, I don't know the internals but To have done something to have made it so that the cable could come out at least, you know, out this side Maybe um, that said, I don't particularly like the way that the uh, the loop deck one comes out right at the very top Like that, but still, uh, yeah, it's just a bit of a weird design choice That is to have it so that it won't literally lie down flat um so Oh the uh, yeah the you get hammered by the the the exchange rate and import to you. Oh, that's uh, that's a shame that is um You just ordered the 15 key one. Well, um, I don't know what to say It's it's still great. It's still it still does all you know, it depends on what you need it for But if you if it's if it's your is it your first stream deck um You might be surprised at how many things you find for it. Fortunately, I think there's a good resale market But I know that a lot of people who start with the 15 they uh quickly buy the by the other one, but um Yeah, I'm I'm a bit of a freak in that way in a way anyway that I do tend to put absolutely everything on it So there's there's certainly ways with pages and things like that. You can flick between them. So um So yeah, I'm thinking that as well folks on etsy who will be through the printing solutions for as soon they will but you're still You're still going to be stuck with you'll have to buy a sort of 90 degree angled usb socket or something like that To get around the the whole sort of you know angle that this comes out at um But uh, but yeah Uh, let's not let's not let's not moan too much because I think it is wonderful And they all got a wave as I say the wave link on my cables tangled now The wave link software is is one of the big selling points One of the other things I mentioned about the the actual software itself I haven't really put anything on the buttons in this demo because I figure well We all know what a stream deck does don't we but perhaps we perhaps we don't so just in case for those who don't know Then let me just get this down for a second Then um, yeah, basically all of the the different things on here Are just exactly as we used to just being able to sort of drag and drop things You know if you want a shortcut to a website if you're controlling ecam I want to start your stream. I wouldn't go and drop on the end live stream button on here just yet I'll do that after You know run scene to flick between scenes on ecam. So we've got all of the same Functionalities we had before uh, obviously the icons just the same as before you can change the icons so you can either Set it from a file here. You can just drag and drop an image on here to change the icon You've got the same functionality as we've had on the those buttons on the The the screen here as well. Obviously, you don't have it for the the dial It's just going to put on this little icon here, whichever You know function you're adding on to it But you can actually upload an image to go in place on it on the actual touch screen here So you can change that image you can also change the background of this entire strip if you right click on it Then you can either upload your own file reset to default which would be just plain black Or you can Open the background library and there is actually a whole series of different backgrounds that you can choose from So you could have something like that just an image. Let me just click out to there for a minute You can see what these are looking like trees mountains water that sort of stuff Awesome of these more sort of abstract colors and things like that. It is a really sort of vibrant screen I've got to say just as you know, same as the the loop deck pretty pretty good quality screen on it And so you can just change the the background When you add in different profiles, so if I was to go and create a new profile in here For example, like this, then what I could do is I could just add a different background Um onto this one, but let's choose something completely different And then as I switch profile, it is going to switch those backgrounds as well So you're going to get sort of a weighted glance down and just you know Another way to sort of show you which which profile you you happen to be on Um, by the way the switching profiles Um, you can do that from from here obviously and this is one of those things that has moved So the stream deck actions now have been split into stream deck navigation and multi action So switching profiles would be in here So you can come in here at this and then you can switch to a different profile One thing that some people don't realize is you can switch profile from a different device So what I could do is I could just delete that from there because we don't want to take up too many spaces Let me come back to my My stream deck. Where is it this one stream deck excel What I'll do is I'll just get rid of a couple of these And then what I could do here is I could use the switch profile on here So this is my excel that I'm programming now and you can see here where it says the the current device Well, what I can do is I can change that to the stream deck plus And then it will pull up the list of profiles profile one profile two And then let me just copy that one And then I will Change that to profile two So now I've got these two buttons on my regular stream deck that are going to change profiles on the stream deck plus So if I come to this one here, we've obviously changed the The background So you can see that as I press these buttons is essentially changing those profiles on the the first stream deck Sorry on the stream deck stream deck plus. I'm changing profiles from the the stream deck excel So so that is a way that you could use this as well If you're using it with something else where you can sort of switch between those That's a great tip by the way as well for if you are using the stream deck pedal, which I also have Obviously the stream deck pedal has got three Buttons three pedals. So you may want to have sort of more functionality So having those on different profiles and then using a switch on the the regular stream deck to switch between them Is a useful thing to do there. In fact, there is a little sort of floating Thing where's it gone? I share my screen again There is a little sort of floating window here. So this one shows you what is the current active Thing on your pedals. I've got a little profile set up on my stream deck excel If I press this one that looks like a little pedal with this little Recycle symbol in it that's basically going to allow me to change What is the the actions that I've got on my pedals? So I've got a few that set up here and you can see that as I'm pressing these buttons on my regular stream deck It is actually changing what is being controlled by the pedal. So it means I can just sort of dip in and dip out of that And yeah switch switch the profiles on the on the pedal. So if I go back to the one that I wanted there we go put that one back So yeah, that is that is where we're at with the stream deck plus if anyone's got any specific questions I will obviously be doing a full sort of more structured video that is you know recorded video about the About all the different features and functionality and so on but I just wanted to come on and basically Just talk you through some of my initial initial thoughts of it I will be doing a whole series of videos on the wavelengths software because I think that that has got a huge potential And I know that you know, there's Certain people I know keely for example in the chat is you know, not one to want a big rocaster on the desk But you know using an mv7 there could be some Use cases for that going through the wavelengths software and being able to control discord volume and things like that separately Yeah, I think it has a great great deal of potential there Yeah, etsy's got some great things they had a great great one as well for mounting a loop deck So it was india india dalgardo Mentioned about that where there's one that you can get to mount a loop deck and a stream deck You know sort of next to each other or one above the other I actually take a minute off now, but I use a there's an iPad stand that I use to sort of mount one above the other But yet etsy's gonna have lots of lots of great stuff You use that I'm sure you do use that profile switch it with with four stream decks And I can just imagine I'd love to I'd love to get a sort of behind the scenes of your Your setup and what you're actually doing with it as well Uh, no problem and andy happy to happy to share some information and my my humble opinions Um, I'm really happy with it. I would have bought it I would have bought this Even if elgato hadn't sent me one and as I say I'm giving away the one that I I would have bought anyway to Some lucky winners so you can find details of that and I certainly would have been happy with it So although I might have sounded a little bit picky and negative about some things But I'm not really I am really over the Uh, over the moon with it. I can see that if they just add in that little mouse scroll thing to this Then this one might well be moving out to uh, uh to retirement somewhere But yeah, it is really really great the the software that Elgato have got for the stream deck for me is just So far ahead of the loop deck software. Um I would never recommend the loop deck to somebody because I would never recommend the loop deck to someone that I was going to be tech support for should we put it that way Because uh, yeah, whereas I could quite happily recommend the stream deck to anyone because it is so so easy Um, the other thing about this just mentioning that so doc is saying the 3d printed lids Um, and oh you are you are getting it apparently I should say as well. They don't have um changeable face plates, which I'm surprised at that as well because given that they had I know that it's more tricky to do a face plate for this because It's got a screen and they've got to do all of that kind of stuff But it seems that there was a bit of an evolution Going on, you know, it went from the irregular 15 key stream deck with the sort of quite flimsy kickstand Then they bought out the stream deck excel which had this, you know magnetic stand like this and it was And the usb c connection the detachable usb c on the back And they did that for the mini as well Then they bought out the stream deck mark two which was the same size as the original one But had some other features of this in terms of you know the the the sort of form factor But it had the replaceable screen the face plates because presumably they'd seen That um etsy was a big marketplace for people making just the ones that you could stick over the top So i'm surprised that they didn't stick with the replaceable face plates for this as well because You know, I know keely's got a nice white stream deck excel and so may have wanted the same one for this What they have said is that in the new year there are going to be replacement dials coming out with different colors So these do just basically pull off Honestly, I haven't just broken it And they they just sort of pull on and off like that So you can replace them so they are bringing out colored dials, but yeah There's no sort of replaceable face plate. So that again is going to be another um etsy thing And do you know what paul? You're thinking on my wavelength because when I see the this like here It just feels like it needs another one on the other side So It would look perfect with just another stream deck on there because it is taller I mean, hopefully i've shown that as well. It is taller than the the stream deck So yeah another one of those on the other side. It would it would be a proper Mission control that what have I done then I've just uh It appears I've just pressed the button to uh drop in the chat If you'd like to book a consultation with me, uh, you can go to take one tech.io slash consultation That that just triggered all by itself. So uh, it seems like the the stream deck is working for me now um Oh, okay. Yes. Yeah. Yeah the the stream deck loop deck can't got a 3d printed one that um Yeah, the yeah india found that that was great. The reason I didn't buy that Despite using a stream deck and a loop deck is because I still have this and this is a yulanzi um iPad stand um, but It does actually hold the loop deck really nicely if I uh drop it in here It's like almost exactly the right size to hold the loop deck and then if you twist it round And then if you just drop the stream deck on the stand like that and then position this correctly It ends up being a really nice sort of weighty Thing and they're exactly the right size. You can line them up get all the the angle of them and everything right Uh, so that's how I've been using this stream deck and the loop deck. So that just sits on my desk Um, and uh, yeah, that that's been a great way for me to use those two things together Um, I think it would get a bit tall if I mounted this one on top as well So I'll probably go for something more wide as opposed to a tall head going forward, but Uh, yeah, I've got to say though the loop deck. I mean, I joke about it But uh, I certainly will be still hanging on to this because sometimes when I go away I don't take the excel at all last time I went on a trip which actually was months ago It's not like I do travel much these days Because I've realized you don't actually have to despite the fact that used to be on the go all the time But uh, yeah, this one is just really nice to be able to sort of throw into a bag It's uh, I'm really sort of small and light and portable and and actually, you know If you do things, you know, just basic things, uh on, uh, you know Zoom call or something like that where using ecum virtual cum and you want to switch between a few scenes You know do a bit of zooming for screen sharing and stuff like that Then actually this is this is fine as well. So I I'm joking about it But I do like the loop deck hardware. It's just the the software Let's sit down a little bit and I wouldn't necessarily be recommending it to anyone Um, yeah, it does certainly very well. Yeah, this is not this is not really portable And this one now you need a screwdriver to get it out. It's also not portable In fact, uh, let's have a look at how it comes in a box Now people like to see unboxings, but it's kind of relevant to what we're talking about here because Uh, when you get the box Um, I'm bearing in mind, you know when you're traveling you want to make sure these things are Pretty well protected. Uh, so it comes Obviously because it's got the uh the stand on it It comes in a box, uh like this Is the right way around Maybe it's that way around. There we go. That's better So it comes in this this big square box Uh, and the reason why it's uh this shape of box is because as you've just seen This is weird, isn't it? I'm doing the I'm doing the unboxing at the end But you've got this in here with some little Notes and stuff like that and the stream deck is nicely facing you so it's nicely presented But it is because of the size of this thing So if you're going to travel with this either you've got to take a screwdriver And take the stand separately Or you've uh, you've got to take something it's going to take up about that much space in it In fact, let's take the back off. Shall we?  I mean it's thicker than the the stream deck excel actually the stream deck excel obviously was designed to um You know to have an angle on it as well when it's lying flat So it was designed to have a slight angle on it whereas this has got no allowance for having an angle on it It is completely sort of flat the same thickness almost all the way along apart from obviously the sort of chamfered edges But yeah, so and then it slips around this is obviously designed to be uh sat on the floor So it's got little rubber feet. This hasn't there's definitely no Thought that this is going to be used in this in this layout and I guess it kind of makes sense because of these But yeah, just to be able to have some sort of way to angle it up like that would be would be would be great I think that there would be people who would want to use it like that and like I say I would certainly want to use it like that sometimes as well um, and yeah, obviously when you've got your cable plugged in Unless you've got a 90 degree cable and even then with a 90 degree cable It's still going to rock about a little bit. Um, although I suppose technically would it Um, I suppose technically then you've got sort of three points You wouldn't necessarily want to rest it on the cable though and I advisable Um, but then you would have I suppose three points. It might just sit there like that But anyway, it's uh, clearly not at all intended to be used in that way. So, uh, let's put this back on But yeah having to disassemble it if you are going to travel with it is is hardly is hardly ideal Um Let me just see where we're up to Uh, that's so true. So just talking about the loop deck. Yeah, but the UI is crap and it shouldn't be that hard to learn I I literally had the loop deck sitting on my desk for Three months Before I started using it and the reason was every time I came to start doing it And I hope you know by now that I'm a total geek and love all these kind of things and uh You're stripping things down and pulling things apart But the loop deck every time I came to get into it. I just thought Ah, it's uh, I haven't got time to figure this out right now I'll come back to it and I kept having that feeling and so it took me three months to actually start using the loop deck And even now like if I want to change up the stream deck, I feel it's really easy to just go and you know Strip stuff out puts new stuff in move stuff around The loop deck still feels like a challenge to do stuff on so that's why it just basically stays In this state. So this has got some extra ecam things. I've got a couple of other pages on here. Look at that Look at that the swipes not actually working on it now. I think it might have got jealous Yeah, it's not it's not having it. That's the other thing. It is a little bit buggy as well to be honest.   I cut and I fully understand it as well Oh, okay. I'll have to go and check that out. Bicky. I hadn't seen that Yeah, you'd put a photoshop and a short description in the ecam discord under other hardware I'm going right to check that out afterwards, but that will be great to see that Uh, thank you Hey, richard, great to see you here popping in Yeah, it definitely need to definitely need to check that out I will definitely be going to check that out afterwards Well, if nobody has any specific other questions about the uh the stream deck plus if you haven't done already then definitely go and Head over and enter the giveaway. We've still got a couple of days left If I take a comment down Just so that you're clear, um, that um, yeah, that is running until uh, obviously cyber monday So I'll be doing the draw for that on on tuesday. Uh, I am thinking of doing more of these giveaways as well because um, yeah Part of the reason obviously, let's let's just have a full disclosure here Part of the reason is obviously to build an email list and hopefully be able to send you some other useful information And things like that. So yeah, I'll definitely be doing more of these going forward as well Photo oh, I kind of knew what you meant. Anyway, you got a photo in there. Yeah Um No, well, do you know what though doc? It what it is is um, it's it's totally It's totally up to you but if a product is has friction for people to learn it and very smart people I'm not talking about myself I'm talking about the likes of hashtag kilo was right and other such people If there is that barrier for people being able to grasp it and it's not just me It was lots of people I made a video which has been one of the most popular about are you confused by loop deck? I've been inundated with people saying yes and so many people I knew bought it and sent it back because the uh, the software was just not not not not good enough, frankly And yeah, it's all very well saying oh, you could learn it But you know, you could say the same about obs couldn't you anything that you can do in ecamp you can do in obs there I've said it. Um, but why do we use ecamp because it's user friendly. It's easy to just do all of these things And loop deck is far from that.  I don't hate it. That's why I've still got it I haven't sent mine back, but I'm just I'm just patiently waiting for them to sort their software out There we go Um, so I should also say that there is also still time to save on my courses If you are interested in learning more about rocaster ecamp live or or zoom for that matter, then you can check out the ecamp live masterclass zoom masterclass and rocaster masterclass, uh, did I say all those? Well, there you go. And you can get a 35 45 uh percent discount 35 percent discount On up until cyber monday with the the offercode cyber 22 Um, and yeah, you can find those all at take one tech dot i o slash store and you can also get the same discount on my Stream deck icon packs as well. I'm going to have to be making some more of these now because Obviously now with the dials on the stream deck plus then as well as the regular sort of square icons We've also got those sort of rectangular ones for the dials. So you can find uh, The icon packs over there and yeah, I will be doing some updates of those as well Uh, quite right neil software and hello by the way But software should not be that difficult to use. So, uh, yeah, it's uh, it's They've they've got to get there. You've got to get their act together I gave them a year and uh, they did bring out a big update, but they haven't quite got there yet. Um So, um Let me have a look where we at Hello. Good. Great to see you just tuning first impression after a few days of stream deck plus in combination with keyboard maestro is fantastic Oh, well, there we go stream deck Any stream deck with keyboard maestro is fantastic. So yeah, you're speaking my language there. It certainly is Yeah, that that that has been The the biggest game changer for me with stream deck was not what it ended up doing for me with Livestreaming and recording, which is what I bought it for it was when I paired it with With keyboard maestro. So yeah, certainly. Yeah, certainly does that. In fact, you've just given me an idea because one of the things that I've just been talking about is that um in, uh I'm so glad you just dropped this comment in one of the things I've just been talking about in the stream deck plus is how If I come over to, uh, this one With these dials we can add in um onto the rotary dials. We can add in Keyboard shortcuts, but what we can't do is mouse gestures. Um, but actually of course we can do that with Where is it we can do that with um Keyboard maestro. So what I could do is I could actually map this To a keyboard maestro command, which is the mouse gesture Thank you. You have just you've just solved my my initial problem Thanks. Good. It's great to uh great to hear and thanks so much for the the comment Yes, now I shall be now. I know what I'm doing with my saturday. I will be yeah I'll be programming my uh my keyboard maestro mouse gestures to work with the rotary dials and then I should be making a video about that of course And I'll credit you with it Well, that is that that is all I've got for uh today on the uh, um the stream deck plus If anyone has got any final questions happy to answer them. Otherwise, I shall uh I shall say thank you and farewell and hope you found that useful Let me know in the uh comments if you're watching on the replay How you are finding using it if you've got any uh any issues feedback or comments about it I'd love to hear about all of that and if you are Uh Oh, you'll go to your stream. Ah, right. When's your stream? I know you've got a stream. I thought you had finished your Friday night stream Hmm Interesting now. I'm waiting. I'm waiting to find out what doc stream is. I'll find out I'll catch it with you. Anyway, thank you all for hanging out great to see you And I've also going to be going straight away now to uh after I've chatted in the the discord I'll be going straight away to check out uh, bicky's picture in the in the discord of his setup And if you haven't already joined the ecam discord group and then go and check out that as well because it's an awesome picture Thanks everyone for hanging out if you are watching on the replay Then I'll leave some other stream deck videos over on the right hand side here And I've just got to say a big thank you to my channel members Thank you so much for your support You helped keep the lights on in the studio and I really appreciate each and every one of you. Have a great day everyone See you next time