from Boston, Massachusetts. It's theCUBE, covering Red Hat Summit 2017, brought to you by Red Hat. Welcome back to the Red Hat Summit here in Boston, Massachusetts. I'm Rebecca Knight, your host, my co-host Stu Miniman. We are joined by Tim Kramer. He is the engineering director at Ansible Red Hat. Thanks so much for joining us, Tim. Hey, great to be here. So you've been in Ansible a couple of years now. Talk a little bit about your role, what you do in new projects you're working on. All right, yeah. So I came over with the acquisition of Ansible into Red Hat. I managed the Ansible engineering team and I now have the Insights engineering team as well. And yeah, we have many cool projects that we've been working on. One that's really exciting was networking, but I know that you've talked to other people about that one. Another one is Ansible Container, which I'm also really excited about. So what we've done is we noticed the Docker file sure did look convoluted. So we thought, it kind of looked like a bad shell script. And we thought, well, since we take bad shell scripts and we turn them into playbooks into something very human readable, wouldn't it be great if we did the same thing for Docker file? So that's what Ansible Container really is. It's for companies that have really invested in Ansible and they have a lot of Ansible content, take that content and be able to basically onboard it into OpenShift really easily with the Ansible Container project. Yeah, I actually, it was interesting. We were talking about kind of the history and things like the old Solaris containers versus Docker. I read an interesting article talking about containers aren't a thing. It's more like a collection of things because you've got Linux namespaces, C groups and all those pieces. So it sounds like that's one of the things that you guys are trying to help, like Red Hat has always done, bring some supervision to some of these open source pieces. Yeah, a big thing about Ansible, the thing that we try to do over and over again is just make things as simple as possible. We're all about simplicity and that's what we're trying to do on the Docker sort of life cycle. So between Docker file becoming easier, we also try to make it easier for you to be able to compose those into some kind of running set of microservices. Tim, since you came over with the acquisition, one thing that we've noted is, Ansible's everywhere this week. It's been 18 months since the acquisition. We talked to Joe Fitzgerald. We talked to Andreas and it's getting its pieces like all over the place and sounds like more. Could you give us a little bit of the insider view as to how that progression went, what you're seeing, any challenges? I mean, we know it's all open source, but what do you have to navigate and how do you get that one plus one equals three once you put all this stuff together? Yeah, so I think that the acquisition itself was a really great move. It was great for Ansible, it was great for Red Hat. It filled a gap that they needed on the automation side and to make their products easier to install, configure especially. So what we noticed is that right after the acquisition, Red Hat really just tried to let us keep going and run the business as is. They didn't try to force us into any specific model that they had for running things at Red Hat. What naturally happened was because of the acquisition, a lot of teams just started using it, playing with it. We were there as a consulting team to help a bunch of teams through whatever questions they had, but it took off virally just like it seems to take off virally with a lot of our customers. So it is in literally every product that Red Hat ships today. And then we have deeper integrations with some of the products. So I know you've talked probably about cloud forms and Ansible inside and we have a better integration with Satellite and Insights as the other one that's really good. In terms of the acquisition, what about the cultures? Before the cameras were rolling, we were talking about how deep the Red Hat culture runs. Really, that's sort of brought down by Jim Whitehurst. Ansible had its own culture. How has the blending of the cultures been from your perspective? Yeah, one thing that I was really excited about coming in is I've been in several large enterprises and I've been acquired now. This will be the third time that I've been acquired. And it's definitely the best one. This is a software company. And that in itself is very exciting because we're not trying to placate the hardware teams or with some software add-on stuff that I had in other acquisitions. But yeah, the culture at Red Hat is one of really cooperation and everybody helping each other out working together in communities, especially upstream communities. It's really upstream community first oriented. And that really helps teams integrate better at Red Hat because we can just work in our upstream community. We work in other people's upstream communities and get everything to tie together. It's a really nice collaborative model. So that culture of collaboration and everybody's trying to get things done to do the right thing, it's fascinating. In a previous interview, you described your management philosophy as one of trust and enablement. And that is something we hear, we've heard a lot at this conference is really empowering the individual, trusting the individual. It sounds wonderful and it's the kind of boss I would want to work for. But how do you do it? What are some of the practices that you do to ensure that your engineers feel supported and that you trust them? Well, first we do have a few job openings. Okay. If you want to apply. Come on. New Boston office. Good to know. Yeah, so I guess some of the practices that I have when it comes to trust and enablement is I give my, there's an unending amount of work to do. So it's actually kind of an easy philosophy to employ. So I just make sure that my team has a set of directives that are really clear that they need to perform. And you do sort of trust but verify.  If they have an issue or a question or they're confused about something, we just cover it in a one-on-one or in a group meeting. The other thing that I do a lot of is I tend to do a lot of group meetings. So I have my entire staff, like in all hands event, we do those every two weeks to make sure everybody's on the same page about what's going on in the greater red hat and within our own projects. And I think that keeps people really tied in. Tim, management is something that gets pulled out, you know, pulled out from every vendor in the environment. The cloud guys are trying to build more into it. Those infrastructure guys you mentioned that do hardware or all, you know, trying to do that pieces. Can you talk to us a little bit about your customers, why they turned to, you know, red hat and Ansible, you know, rather than some of the other alternatives that are out there? Sure, so again, I think that one of the things that's given us a huge advantage is that Ansible is just so simple. And we appeal to a very broad range of users. So I think that's why it took off so quickly and is used by so many people. So a system, anybody that can write a shell script can start using Ansible and writing a playbook. And we got tons of examples out there so you can cargo-cult things. So it's number one, really, really easy to get going. Ah, geez. I just lost my train of thought. And the question was, oh, customers, yeah. So on the customer side, I'll give you an example. So there's a large technology company in Silicon Valley that uses us, I can't say their name, but one of the problems that they had was utilizing, well, they were having problems communicating between development and production. So the development guys would go off and they'd come up with a product and they'd know how they would deploy it in development, but when it came to production they needed a different way of deploying it. So they used to create these giant documents, requirements, documents, and they'd pass them back and forth and they would speak different languages. It really wouldn't work. It'd take a long time to get something into prod. Now they're using Ansible playbooks as that definition. And since it's so readable, the production guys can understand what they're trying to do. The development guys can easily write that in. So it's a great communication mechanism between those teams that really helps create a real DevOps environment for them. So that's one good example. Okay, Tim, look at management usually has a different pricing structure than some of the rest of Red Hat, some of the cloud models. How do you guys look at pricing? How are you trying to make sure that you make it as affordable as possible for customers? Wow, yeah, that's not my area. Okay, no, no, no, fair enough. You want to talk a little bit about some other customers here at the show. What are they asking you about? What are they excited about? Love to get some of the customer viewpoints that you're hearing this week. It's been fascinating. I've done mostly customer interviews the whole time. And what I get is a lot of positivity. They're excited about Ansible. They're excited about the integrations that we're having with the other Red Hat products. I see them, it's taking off everywhere. And yeah, they're generally just really happy with the product. We have a lot of interest in Tower as well, which helps manage your Ansible environment. So yeah, it's been super positive. As you look forward, what do we expect to see going forward? We understand Ansible will keep growing across the portfolios and the environment, but what excites you and what should we look for going forward? So I think within the community, one thing that I'm excited about is the number of contributors we have. We have over 2,600 contributors to Ansible. And even in our Windows practice, we got 83 people that are working actively on helping our Windows modules. I want to see that continue to accelerate. I want to be able to make sure that our contributors are able to get changes in quickly and easily. And that's something that we've been focusing on a lot. One thing about a really large community, it's great because you get a lot of attention, but the difficult part is that you can't accept all the contributions that people want to give you without just letting anything in. So we've come up with some techniques now. We have some bots that we wrote that help people formulate their pull requests. And what I see going forward is we'll get more and more contributions in. And you'll continue that, creating more bots to let more people in or let more people contribute. Yeah, we're also doing some tagging. So we're making it really clear what things are really managed by the core team itself. All the basic stuff and the engine of Ansible. Then we have vendor modules. That's another thing that's pretty exciting. A lot of vendors are coming in and contributing publicly, which is fantastic, especially on the networking side. And then we'll have those things that are curated so they have an active maintainer within the community. And they go through review from our core team to make sure that they're up to the right standards, but those are modules you know you can count on. And then we'll have more of that Wild West. Experimental modules, people that are really trying some things out. That's one way that we can really help. We can get a lot more of those Wild West and let those settle a little bit, get some community leadership and kind of take off. And then they go into the curated pile. It's the open source way. It is. Tim, thanks so much for joining us. Hi, yeah, it's great being here. I'm Rebecca Knight for Stu Miniman. We will continue with more of Red Hat in Boston, Massachusetts after this.


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All right guys welcome back to the channel if you knew my name is Bobby guys You really loved the vegan response videos in my last post. I asked you to recommend future videos The majority chose hench herbivore Paul so today we're gonna respond to his latest video Hi, it's Paul from hench herbivore, and this is how I eat and train to get ripped. What was that? Taro music Yeah, first energy of course because of the sugar content and these dates again for more energy Yeah, more energy again sugar in the dates This oh small slide burning so it'll keep me going for a while I've got chia seeds good for the mega 3 flax seeds the mega 3 Anticancer lignans got armler, which is the most antioxidant rich food in the world probably more antioxidants there Okay before I jump into this video a little disclaimer here I know that people like Svedi Contacted hensher before quite often and it responds to videos so therefore hench Paul The reason why I make this video is not to attack you I think we have to establish human ground here first It is easy to get trapped into that vegan YouTube bubble and throw shit at each other hate on each other listen I was a vegan bodybuilder myself in reality There is no such thing of course because as vegans you have to consume much more calories with much more calories You're consuming much more plants that lead to many more Crop deaths right so therefore you are contributing to more animal cruelty hence not Vegan if anything plant-based that being said the reason why I reach out to you Firstly is because the fans want to see it, but secondly looking into this It is because I feel your pain I totally understand how it feels to eat all of those plant foods They're all very triggering very toxic on the digestion of course right now You're eating a bowl full of antinutrients you're eating phytates eating lectins You're eating phytoestrogens and whatnot all of that is not proper food for the human species hence why I'm reaching out to you is because I want to offer you a Alternative an alternative that will take all the vegan boxes as a vegan you want to be ethical What does that mean?  And to a lindy for cut my beloved Vivo Life Protein I've got the Madagascan Vanilla today, this one is particularly sweet Yeah, I know you're sponsored by Vivo Life and therefore you want to make a buck Totally understandable, I get it, we all need to make money But the point of the story is that you couldn't absorb any protein out of your so-called whole-food plant-based diet That is just common sense, we all know that the protein is encapsulated in those plant fibers And hence it is really really hard to break down This is why many vegans resort to smoothies and juices To get some nutrition out of it Therefore in order to provide some protein to your muscles You will need protein powders I hear the vegans screaming already Yeah, but regular bodybuilders drink protein shakes as well Yes, that is correct But that being said, they do not rely on protein powders for their protein It is a supplement, an additive As a vegan bodybuilder however You will rely on protein powders And processed plants to get some nutrition With that you contribute to more environmental destruction And to less healthful eating habits Because you are eating supplements instead of real food This one is particularly sweet Yeah, of course you want it to be extra sweet because you're hooked on the sugar It is absolutely impossible to break the sugar addiction as a vegan Of course, because your diet by default is based on sugars The vanilla taste, because it's an actual vanilla, it's delicious So I put this one in smoothies where I want it to be extra sweet So link in the description What the fuck is this? And here comes the blender right As I said, people cannot digest those foods I know as a vegan you think that everything that is natural is either bad Or simply unnecessary Just because it is natural doesn't mean it is good It is an appeal to nature fallacy Yes, I understand all of that However, a natural diet means to eat something that is adequate for your physiology What you are eating, you are actually not even eating Because you put it into a blender You cannot digest any of it You need to supplement the protein powders And then you need to grind up that fiber to reduce the digestive stress This is not human food This must be the lamest Kelly muscle impression that I've ever seen Yes, that was quite delightful I'm going to get that down my chops I'm going to get online to do some workout and nutrition plans For some of you lovely guys, I've had loads and loads They've been really inundated, which is really nice Get at me down there if you want to get in on that Why would you give out nutrition plans if you have digestive upset yourself? I tried to contact you and you wouldn't respond Once I made the shift to carnivore, you couldn't respond to me any longer Because I'm an apostate to your religion However, I know that you are in contact with Gojiman And you still try to fix your digestive upset How come that you feel entitled to give out nutritional advice If you still battle digestive issues? I'll see you guys next at the gym What did I just watch? Aside from the underwhelming training footage there Why do you lie to your viewers? Why do you try to tell them that if they eat plants They would have the same results as you? You admittedly are a steroid user And listen, I'm not going to even attack you because of that I have friends that use steroids I've been in the field of bodybuilding, martial arts, personal training All of it, I get it, steroids are the thing It's alright, use steroids Your thing, your business, it's your body Do with it whatever you want to do However, the issue becomes when you tell people That they can achieve the same goals as you with a plant-based diet Listen, we all know that steroids increase protein synthesis What that means is they help assimilate more protein into your muscles Right? You become more anabolic Your body makes better use of dietary proteins So now, if we take plant proteins We already see that the biological value is very, very low Why is that? So, because again, it is not human food Meat has very high biological value Because it is adequate for our physiology Once you introduce synthetic protein powders And you introduce plant proteins They are not easy to digest And they are not easy to assimilate by the body However, if you use exogenous hormones Your body becomes more efficient at making something out of that crappy protein And therefore you can have some muscle Of course, you know just as well as I do That you are not living up to your own potential Of course, you are under-eating and you are under-feeding And you are malnourishing your body with your current diet However, the steroids make you stick to that diet Longer and not wither away, straight away So of course, very disingenuous to tell your young followers That they can achieve the same results just by eating vegetables Well, that's just made me darn hungry I'm going to try out a new place today It's called Salt It's only been opened a couple of days I saw a great write-up in the paper Apparently a real good chef And a lot of the dishes It's not a vegan restaurant But a lot of the dishes are vegan So, excited to give it a try Okay I love the decor Fancy black cut marine When the foods come Looks like shit I can smell the horseradish It smells delicious Thank you very much Service is born Pastry rice, coconut water Simple sugar water You're not getting anything else out of it Thank you Thank you, brother That's okay Thank you Bye Thank you Your day Thank you Sorry for the smoky aubergine What was this? Horseradish Horseradish and dill potatoes Horseradish and dill potatoes And satay tofu Peanutty Ah Phytates Phytoestrogens And lectins And efflatoxins and the peanuts It is a dish filled with anti-nutrients And I know that the vegans somehow want to discard that all together Somehow that doesn't comply with their science, right? The blues don't eat all beans Yeah, but not in those amounts And why would you contribute good health to those beans?   Top marks, love it Well, I loved absolutely everything about that experience Nah, you didn't like anything about that experience Stop lying The staff are amazing Really lovely Friendly, warm, humorous Beautiful decor The food was amazing Really different Really full of flavour 10 out of 10, I'll be back Would recommend to a friend So I'm on the set of London Real Ready to do my interview with Brian Rose Now, I just couldn't ruin a furniture shop I fooled you No He came in for a wee I came in for a wee, if I'm honest Can I have, please?  You eat something that's not adequate It raises your insulin Now you get a hunger attack Now you go to the next store And grab some junk food To fix that craving To stabilise the blood sugar If you would have eaten a steak You wouldn't have that issue It's that simple And you know it If your post-workout meal Would have been Rise with chicken Rise with steak Rise with fish Okay, if you must Add a little bit of broccoli to it Okay You wouldn't run to the store To get a sugar fix Jesus Waves Cinnamon, peach, muffins, gluten free And Cashew butter filled dates With chocolate and coconut Some more sugar and fat Again Can I have one of those as well, please? Yeah, sure, do you want one of the same? Yeah, is that for you? Yeah And was it one of these? Two Three please I'm having a re-free I've been dieting for ages But I noticed this week my weight was going down so quick So I'm having a little re-free So my muscles don't shrink to nothing The muscles don't shrink to nothing You know exactly that That has nothing to do with muscles Yes, I understand A carb re-feed We've all done it I get it As a bodybuilder You want to raise the metabolism You want to fuel up with some carbs I get it All good The issue here is of course That you do not add any building blocks Yes, I've seen bodybuilders Filling up with cereals With sugary shit I get it Bodybuilding is on its own Not the healthiest thing to do We all know it However, again You do not have any quality proteins And you do not have any food That will stabilize your blood sugar This is why you run To get your next fix I mean for you it's a magic number Exactly Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you No, we're fine for you I love this place There you are Do you want some pork? We're just going to have some Just going to smash them down Yeah Smash them down Thank you Thank you Thank you Sorry Yeah Just for the record These are not all for me One of these is for Gemma Cinemony, peachy Worcester names Worcester names Muffins The words sumptuous Swings to mind Really soft and gooey inside somehow The cinnamon and the peach work really well together Yeah, they are a bit gooey, aren't they? That's amazing A little try of this Daked thing But what is the point of this video? I mean even if you want to claim That you are nutritionist With some sort of online degree What is the reason to make such a video? Who will learn anything of this video?  What is the reason for this video? I truly don't understand Cashew butter inside Yeah Cashew butter filled Dave Amazing Oh, so this is stuffed Dave, isn't he? So, I'm really excited We're off to Heelside Animal Sanctuary today To hang out with a lot of lovely animals They have a good range of different Rescued farmed animals And they're like ostriches in all sorts It's really cool down there The gyno on this man Honestly, first and foremost Super fake again Right, a lot of gestures Ah, oh, hello guys For what? Right, secondly, why do you stand there With a shirt off? And why do you show Your steroid induced genocomastia?  How do you add to the nutritional density? With what? With spices What is in those spices For you to receive more nutritional density? How are you a nutritionist? What is in there? What minerals? What vitamins? What is in those spices For you to enhance nutritional value?  Hm?   Jesus That lunchbox is there by a slice of green Very good Give it to those old plastics Boom One lunch That fake smile Ah, cringe I'm on my philosophy I'll see you at the sanctuary Bye Oh, you remember when all this was fields Still is Hello Donations, yeah, lovely Thank you, ever so much Thank you Yeah, great And what is the difference now Between this sanctuary And some grass-fed cows Ever thought about that? What is the difference? Nothing In the worst case scenario Those cows, those animals They will live up to an older age And then they will face old age diseases Once that comes What do we have to do? We have to put them down Wow, big surprise With the crucial downside Of them not returning into the food cycle We're removing them from the food cycle What benefit does anybody have of that? In regenerative agriculture You have a sustainable cycle, right? You have the cows roaming free Pooping and regenerating our top soil And then we eat them in turn And get proper nutrition It is a win-win situation for everybody Stop spreading misinformation And vegan propaganda Already debunked earthling at He doesn't report the animal abuse On those farms to the RSPCA And this is something that many, many So-called animal activists Have done in the past I'm going to link an article in the description box Where you can see for yourself That there is truly a thing That is called animal snuff films They are animal activists And they film or torture animals themselves In order to propagate veganism This is a real thing And it's absolutely shocking If you would eat sustainably grass-fed cows As I said already You would be the most ethical And you would have contributed To our environment Instead of throwing money at some cows That will be put down anyways Later in life Thank you ever so much Thank you Wow And somebody shaw those animals, right? Hey, where's the wool? Hmm, what do we do with that wool? But wool is so cruel, right?  Say hello And say be vegan Can you say it? Oh, you don't have to say it Yes, real nodding and smiling Can you say be vegan?   You gave one side And this is Mr Swann How's that? Lovely, thank you ladies Grace, what do you do?  All the gifts? Everything's completely vegan here, so... Anyway, this place was great Hillside Animal Sanctuary Get down here It's open every other Sunday For a few weeks over the summer I'll put a little link in the description So you can check out if you want to If you're in the Norfolk area Well, I'm back from the sanctuary That was a good old ride I'm cream-cracked now And I'm really hungry Gemma, I need some food in these days Yeah, big surprise Always hungry Vegans are always hungry Because they're fueling their bodies With calories With macronutrients Even though one of those macronutrients Being protein is totally insufficient However, they get enough carbohydrates And a little bit of oils But they're not getting any micronutrients It's that simple, man Let me give you a simple example If you take a car A car needs fuel Gas and oil Imagine you're always pulling in gas But you will always have that signal light Telling you it needs oil That signal light in vegans Is the constant hunger It doesn't matter how stuffed you are It doesn't matter that you already extended your gut With all of that fiber You will still feel hungry Why is that so? Because the micronutrients are missing Let's go Well, hi, what's going on here? What do we have, a woman? Scrambled tofu Scrambled tofu Oh, yeah Mmm, a favourite Introduce me to the fellas Tofu Tofu Onion Tomatoes Mushrooms Goitrogens The onions Kill of all the microbes And what else?   So you will use the potatoes for glycogen Right, for your muscle stores Okay, makes sense Nothing wrong with it He will use the tofu as a protein source As I said, already mediocre Works only on steroid users To an extent Of course that is not the best way of getting protein in However, because of the heightened protein synthesis Through exogenous testosterone He will make some gains It's that simple All the rest that you see in that meal Is totally useless And has nothing to do with muscle building The only reason why he uses it Is because everything tastes like shit anyways And he tries to make a concoction And make it a little bit more pleasurable Essentially stimulating his taste buds In order to feel something Because he won't feel nutrition out of that food If you bite into raw salmon Dude, you don't need any spices You don't even need salt That shit is delicious Go, go, go This is just on here To remind me we're nearly out Hopefully we won't need it for a few days It's meant to be well sunny What's up with all of those faces, man? What are you doing?    I can't wait I've got muscles wasting away Now what are you doing?  Is he eating a pan?   For what?  What are you doing? I don't get it That smells great, no? Tamari Yeah, because that dish is not anti-nutrient rich enough We're going to add some oxalates on top Well, a lot of you people Over the years Have been asking for a recipe book So guess what? This is one of the first recipes It's going to be in our new recipe book That we're currently well underway with So comment below if you pumped for 30 high protein vegan meals Yeah, absolutely pumped, man Can't wait for that Again, another vegan trying to sell you cookbooks In order to show you how to create vegetable dishes Why do you need a cookbook, man? Why do you need a cookbook for those vegetable dishes?  Everybody knows Because of the low nutritional density In plant foods You need to eat more and more and more Just to get some nutrition Of course, you're not getting adequate nutrition after all However, you will need to eat that much To get a little bit And that will lead to digestive upset And now you want to sell us cookbooks Why should any healthy human being eat this way? That is absolute torture Try this out It's sort of tried and true, really So I don't know what I've got to try out It's just delicious as I remember No, it's not delicious A bit of sweet potato A bit of kale Kale is super toxic Look into it It's been chewy that kale, isn't it?  Those vegans just look ridiculous But most of the time I look at them And I just feel sad Really I cannot help But feel sad For those fellow humans Because after all They have bought into an ideology It is not necessarily their fault I'm not against vegans I'm against veganism This is just saddening to see How people malnourish themselves And degenerate because of it It leads to mental illness It leads to an absolute vitamin A Vitamin D, cholesterol deficiency This is why those people act like they do It's absolutely saddening I look at my screen I see a middle-aged man With a gynecomastia And he apparently is proud Of that little vegan tattoo on his forearm It's absolutely shocking Absolutely saddening And I couldn't care less Again, it is a free country In the world Do whatever you want to do But the issue is That this man promotes this shit To our children You cannot build muscle with plans That is just a fact You really can't To an extent It will work in the beginning Because you're recycling proteins And then we'll just simply stop Unfortunately And Sherby Moore deleted his videos There was a video back in the day Where he showed his steroids And then said that he will stop And then start it again He admitted on radio shows That he is on steroids And again, hench Paul This is not against you Not at all It is against veganism I'm trying to reach out to that little humanity That is left in you Anybody with half a brain cell Would understand That this is not human food You see it You feel it You taste it You try to mask your food With all kinds of seasoning All kinds of spices, sauces In order to make it somewhat palatable Like that you are convincing yourself You're deluding yourself into believing That this is actually something that you can eat It is absolutely ridiculous Again, I don't have an issue with you eating that shit diet But it is really, really sad that you promoted To other people And many young boys especially Getting into weightlifting And listening to your advice And those kids won't make gains If you truly would be a fan Of the sport of bodybuilding You would promote proper food The sport of bodybuilding is over 100 years old And we've seen, we've field tested What works for that sport For the endeavor of building muscle Everybody knows that meat is superior If you look at true bodybuilding athletes Or strongmen You will see that those people Are willing to do whatever it takes So those people will take steroids Those people will smash themselves in the gym They will do everything Everything they need to do In order to achieve their goals Do you really believe that if That diet would be superior to eating meat Those people wouldn't have done that Ages ago Think about that man They use meat because it works For their sport What you are doing First and foremost You are endangering children You are endangering their health But secondly You are blocking the results Of young athletes Young athletes need proper fuel It doesn't matter if it is bodybuilding MMA, strongmen and what not Those young children Need proper fuel to become the best athletes possible And real sport nutritionists Will apply the science And will give them meat of course You however try to brainwash them Into believing that they can achieve The same results with plants That is disingenuous That is an absolute lie My question to you is Why do you do this Are you really really That brainwashed That you believe That plants deliver better results Than meat based animal based nutrition Or do you do it Because you truly are disingenuous And you just want to push an agenda An agenda that pays you good money Let me know what it is And again Paul Even though I am banned from your channel I know that you do not want to talk with me I will offer you a talk A Skype session A live stream The fans will love it I am not talking about a heated debate Just a regular exchange From man to man We can talk about bodybuilding We can talk about sport nutrition And what not I would like to hear your perspective Alright guys And this is it for today's video If you liked it Leave it a thumbs up If you haven't subscribed already Please do so And as always guys Much love and peace


You know every time I watch this film and believe it David and I have watched this film and Susan and a lot of us a few times I Am struck by the sense of shared purpose in World War two and just I mean from the footage from the interviews I should mention we did 14 interviews for this film We uploaded all of those interviews to the Library of Congress and what we they're kind of what I would call like legacy interviews Like poor Jim. How long did we interview you for like I think it was about two and a half three hours three hours and all of it actually just excellent and something we really wanted to preserve so we uploaded it to the Veterans History Project and they have the entire interview online for everyone to see for future generations to see and 14 interviews and I have to just say it was really an honor to listen to all of their stories.  Well, you were in San Francisco at the time Was living in San Francisco at the time, but I was registered for the draft up at Placerville and I went into the army from Placerville But I was working going to college and working at a gas station on at 17th and South Van S here in San Francisco at the time it was a Independent station. It was actually a Hancock oil station. I don't know whether there's a station there or not now, but I haven't been back for Probably 30 years or so it's not far away. We could just walk up right just down the street a little bit and Actually when the war started When I got to the station that morning It was a Sunday morning and and When I got to the station the kid who had opened the Station was already there and he said have you heard the news and I said no and he said the Japson mom Pearl Harbor and That was the first I knew of it and Then there was a lot of activity in the city Later that afternoon and early evening and some of the streetcars weren't even running and We walked From 17th and Van S up to market Street. I don't know where he lived. I lived out on fell Street at 1840 fell Street and Walked all the way home And I'm Not sure how long it took me but But there were people out at the beach Shouting about that we were going to be invaded and also there were People downtown around the armory Trying to sign up or one thing another but I didn't enlist I eventually was drafted and I Had checked with in with my draft board when I went home for the summer and they said that I Wouldn't be drafted until I was 20 years old. I would be so I would be 20 years old in March of 1943 and As soon as March of 1943 came around I got a letter from the president to That letter from the president we've heard so much about right and I went to Went down to Sacramento and I passed the physical and got on a bus and Eventually wound up at the Presidio of San Francisco a Presidio of Monterey and Which was the Reception Center and got all my clothing and uniforms one thing another and Then after about a week there Was transferred by train down to along with Several others none from my hometown Down to a Training camp between halfway between Houston and Galveston it was a temporary camp called the camp Wallace and it was an anti-aircraft training camp and we trained on 90 millimeter Weapons and 40 millimeter weapons and then while I was there I had a number of tests and one thing another and I Think I Had an interview and they told me that I was eligible to go to Officers candidate school or that I could Return to college under the Army specialized training program and I elected to Continue my education and so I decided I I took the Army specialized training program Was transferred up to Camp Wallace or not Camp Wallace cap camp maxi at Paris, Texas, which was in the very northeast corner of Texas just about three miles from the Oklahoma border and We had tests and one thing another there and after 10 days or two weeks I Was transferred to Pasadena Junior College at Pasadena and That was I got there and either must have been early September. I think and Then that program was being phased out and I went before a board and they asked me And I wasn't really cutting it because it was Something I wasn't really interested in after I got into it because when I got to camp maxi I had Wanted to go into the psychology end of it and They told me that the program wasn't available in psychology the only only thing that was available was Engineering and I had our medicine and Dentistry and I didn't care for those but I wanted to get back Somewhere other than Texas I think so I said I'll take the engineering and that's where I wound up And I wasn't cutting engineering. They have one nice thing about being it It wasn't the Pasadena main Campus of the Pasadena Junior College. It was had actually been the John Muir high school And it was referred to as the East campus I believe it was a Pasadena Junior College and there were just soldiers. There are just GIs like myself and they had converted classrooms into Barracks and one thing another and and we were jam we had bunks you didn't have there were about 20 or 30 people I think in a and bunk beds double bunks in a classroom and It was an accelerated course and I was having a great time done in Hollywood though And the result was that I wasn't Making what the grades that they thought I should be making and I went before the board and They asked me what I wanted to do and I said well, I had a radio operator spec number Which I had been I had excelled and in the Morris code at basic training and I'd like to go to a back to the signal core and The major in charge of it said well, we can't send you back We can't send you to the signal core We'll recommend you have to go back to the anti-aircraft training and and you'll go out here to camp on out by Riverside and and That We'll recommend that you be transferred to the the signal core and I hung around the campus for about Three weeks I think before my orders came in and my orders and some other orders came in at the other time at the same time And I discovered I was transferred to the 104th Infantry Division on maneuvers at Camp Granite into California Desert Training Center So from the desert to the desert that I became a desert rat so to speak, but they were just finishing up maneuvers when I arrived and along with some others and A buddy of mine and not from from Pasadena. He was actually transferred there from from a University of Chicago and he was He wound up in the 104th Infantry Division too and he's still alive at In Miami, Oklahoma, that's where he had come from and I still Conversed with Tom every once in a while, but and We hit it off, but we were only there for a week or ten days at the most and then we were transferred to We got there right at the end of the Desert Training Center I think because I noticed the film says that it closed and in the early spring of 44 We got there at the end of February the division had just finished Maneuvers with another division. I don't know what the other division was and we spent Next week or so just policing the desert and clean it up where were they had been and and Then we were transferred to to Camp Carson in Colorado Colorado Springs Matt, maybe you could talk a little bit about that. I mean, it's interesting this desert a million soldiers go through there and yet Not a lot remains right? It's hard to see. I mean, yeah Imagine a million men out in the desert over a broad area But a lot of men and a lot of equipment two years and it was all designed to be temporary, you know It wasn't supposed to last or wasn't supposed to be your regular Established camp so it was all temporary but what amazes me is how much is still out there You still see these rock alignments. So you saw in the film There's there's traces of the training that went on out there Still there and you can still kind of get a sense of the the size and the scope and the breadth of the training facility It's really amazing What's the status right now of the desert? I know that they're trying to get you know some protection and stuff Of what you know, what's the status right now? Well, it's such a huge facility You know it spans three states So it depends upon what area you're looking at but we're trying to get the the entire Facility listed on the National Register for historic places now that doesn't mean the whole entire desert will be listed, but it'll be a Larger encompassing document that will recognize the significance of what went on out there and then individual places will be you know Contributing elements to that National Register district I Will say that when we're out in the desert with you You know it's like a little rock a tiny rock alignment Oh, that was a mortar. That was a place where they put their sub machine guns and really There's a need to kind of translate a little bit of what we're seeing you know and David was like Amazingly expert at that. He really picked up on that and talk a little bit about that David I mean and not only that all the great aerials that that you and Beto got I mean it was pretty amazing Well, you know the first thing I want to say is What a great? Opportunity was to work with Matt. He was our on-camera historian, but actually he was a collaborator Yeah in the in the program because he wrote the he wrote the monographs on the desert training Center He did the original studies. He crawled in and out and all over the the terrain out there and discovered artifacts and sites and locations and Created the historic Narrative from which we drew in order to craft, you know a 30-minute story and he's got a document That's I don't know 200 pages thick plus I just found out today that Matt found the all that historic archival footage of the DTC Very few people I would think have seen that it's not something that is particularly Well known and maybe not even of interest to a lot of you know history buffs who are like, you know hooked on the the action part of the The topic of World War two, but Matt found it in the National Archives and convinced the Bay of Land Management to Get that material in its highest Quality format and it's what Kevin and I relied upon so heavily in order to tell the story in a very You know realistically documentary way, so I really can't thank Matt enough for putting together the the Raw material from which we drew so much of the film and then of course being able to run around with Matt on location and begin to develop an eye for you know a Depression in the ground that could have been in an explosive charge or a foxhole or something or Rocks that were aligned in a certain way that you know according to his trained. I was a defensive formation It all began to make sense once you know We were all out there and we began to see what soldiers would see as opposing units large Opposing units in in many cases would approach these defensive positions. I mean they're war games, right? And but they were played in deadly earnest And so you would get Patton sitting up on what they call Patton's throne watching these war maneuvers and with his supporting officers making notes and evaluating the performance of these units and I think you know, what's so interesting is that The United States was new to this form of warfare what we call Blitzkrieg These mobile units tanks and artillery and Airplanes all working in a coordinated way, you know correct me if I'm wrong Matt But I think that this was the first place in the first time on such a large scale the United States Practiced in this kind of way in order to confront a Military the German military that had been practicing on this since the Spanish Civil War In the mid 30s. Yeah, that's right They they had had maneuvers in Carolinas in the Carolinas in Louisiana But there was nothing like the desert to really promote that realism. There was nothing in the way Nothing had to be simulated. They could do Warfare but everything except killing each other. He's live ammunition They did not have to simulate the the difficulty in moving over terrain and communicating with each other and running out of water You know fatigue of the man, none of that stuff had to be simulated So it was really unprecedented training center the real deal and I'll just add one more thing It was dangerous out there. Yeah Jim may have only spent 10 days doing what he did but typically the the units would spend what three-month rotations out there and They would get a full dose of what that desert and what that training had to offer and it was not pleasant The conditions were one thing. It was brutal. It could be equally cold as hot And Patton as we tried to make Claire in the film Set these Incredibly rigorous standards. He did he his feeling was that the closer they simulated the actual horrible conditions of combat the better Chance people like Jim would have in returning home alive And so guys would go out with one pint of water, you know and do 15 20 mile marches They would engage, you know in real active, you know dog dog fight Maneuvers, you know in planes People died out there people got injured. It was just the way Patton set this up and in fact it was sort of Patton's baby out there that set the standard for rigor and I don't know difficulty. Yeah, you know, he definitely knew that they were gonna lose men He had a famous quote I can't quote it exactly but he knew they were gonna lose men to the training But he said it was gonna be worth it once they got into combat And I think that really proved itself true with the units who spent the full three-month rotation there You look at the combat records of those units and they did very well when they, you know Did run into well trained and disciplined enemy units. So the desert really did Kind of everything up to combat training that these units needed Jim you talked a little bit about in the in our interview about the camaraderie that developed I mean a lot of times this was secondary training right after boot camp or whatever and that camaraderie had And you took that into combat, right? Yes, but you know we didn't establish Bonford and I didn't establish much camaraderie there with the other individuals because it was such a short period but They're right when they say that that the our hundred and fourth infantry division was fighting another division or on maneuvers against another division the other division was defending the Pail on pass and I Was told at the time that and sense that we were the first Division to ever take the the hundred and fourth was the first division to take the Pail and pass and Our commanding general was and the one who took us overseas and brought us back Was general Terry Allen who had been relieved of his command of the first division That fought in North Africa with Patton and then on in Sicily and he had been relieved of his command because of a disagreement and Came back to the States and was given the command of the hundred and fourth infantry division and and And There were yes, there were injuries to the division because Out of the ASTP program There were some In addition to the few of us that that joined it at Camp Granite When we got to Camp Carson There were some they had shut the program down entirely and there were some 2,000 or 2,500 recruits that came into the hundred and fourth infantry division from the army specialized training program because the 14 or 15,000 men that were part of the hundred and fourth infantry division had been reduced by that many due to Casualties in the field one thing another and Jim you had you had served at the Battle of the Bulge right not in the not actually in the Battle of the Bulge We were on the northern apex At a cross from the city of Durham on the Roar River We had we're fighting from Ocon to Cologne had just gotten to the Roar River when the Bulge took place and We spent the entire from December until they Push off in February On the Roar River right there spread thin but right there on the northern apex, but the Main fighting of the Bulge was to the south of us now There are I Think we were Were part of the Bulge because we were on the northern apex, but we weren't right there at the right center of it, right? But heavy heavy action nevertheless We got heavy action from we when the division went overseas We initially were assigned to the Canadian First Army Down in Belgium and Holland Helping free the port of Antwerp, and that was after the debacle of that of a bridge too far and We we lost a lot of casualties. We had a lot of casualties there One we were that was the the first actual combat that we experienced and and We were there about 30 days and then we were transferred from the Canadian First Army To the first US Army at Ocon and we relieved oddly enough the first division at Ocon who had Taken the town of Ocon Which was kind of ironic because Terry Allen had been the commander originally commander to take the first division overseas and 104th division is relieving the first division that at Ocon and then we were fighting We fought and there we we got to Ocon About the first week of December right around armistice day and It took us from armistice day While we didn't initially Combat didn't initially start. There was combat all the time but you weren't forging ahead and You're just kind of maneuvering for Positions there were hills that you were trying to take to push off charge cologne and We didn't get to the Roar River then from the entire November which was only a distance of maybe 25 or 30 miles actually but it took better than a month to get there What do you remember most about the combat? What I remember most is Is in Holland again? I was I was fortunate because I was a signed to a heavy weapons company and a heavy weapons company has 30 caliber machine guns and 81 millimeter mortars and I was doubly fortunate Because I was assigned to the mortar platoon and the mortar platoon When you go into combat The the rifle companies are out there on the point. They're the ones and Then along with them are the machine gun platoons usually and We had two machine gun platoons and one 81 millimeter mortar platoon the 81 millimeter mortar platoon is is Probably two or three hundred normally two or three hundred yards behind the the Where the the battle is actually going on maybe 400 yards, but never much more than that and So I Wasn't Shot at very often. I was shot at several times and by small arms fire But that was usually when we were moving up or something but what I remember most is when we crossed the Mark River down in Holland we crossed in the middle of the night at about 11 o'clock and The rifle platoons had already gone over and then when we crossed over We crossed over a little too soon I always felt because we never Got much farther than than maybe a hundred yards or so from the the Riverbank 150 at most and they opened up with an 81 millimeter Artillery piece or not an 81 million 88 the Germans had an 88 millimeter artillery piece that was devastating and They had us pinned down there because we had had gone Over a little too early and we couldn't set up the mortars or anything and and We were like ducks on the pond and the shells were coming in At a very rapid rate and And people were being injured and There were the the cries medic and and the mud and and debris is falling down on you And you're hugging the ground trying to crawl up into the Get all of your you can into the the iron and rasteel helmet that you've got on not that it's going to protect you But that's the feeling that you have that was the the worst and then from then on I think we learned to Do a better job fighting and one thing another and and I don't all we got cut off in a town of Indian just before we got to the Roar River and we're cut off there for two or three days and We weren't getting any rations in and and You're living with What was available to you in the field? We were we had actually gotten into the town but One of the Rifle platoons what happened one of the rifle platoons had gotten lost again We were moving ahead in the darkness and one of the rifle platoons had gotten lost and instead of of Not rifle platoons rifle company and instead of being in the Right spot at the right time to back up Sea company who had gotten into the town. They were actually in another village that belonged in another Regiment sector and when the support didn't come the Germans counter-attacked the the Sea company and our forward observer who was a At that time was a lieutenant canner's he was with Sea company in the building and they all had to surrender along with the captain of sea company and and a Lieutenant of one of the rifle platoons in sea company and we didn't see them then until the end of the war when a German prisoner camp but The thing I remember about combat really was the baptism of a fire really A couple of days before the the mark river crossing when we got some machine gun fire and and a little bit of Whether we're mines and some small arms fire, but it was particularly the mines and the machine gun fire and we lost our Sergeant of the mortar platoon because he he was wounded in the heel by a bullet at that time How many in your platoon? Kevin before we follow up with that, you know, I think it would be interesting to have You know Matt say one last thing before we go to questions about how these kinds of Realist these actual combat experiences were brought back to the Desert Training Center and they would They would adapt their their training in such a way to make it completely engrossing and encompassing so they would pull back What all of their communications all of their command and control all of their Logistical support and these guys these units would be out there on their own in these vast vast areas Encountering, you know Simulated enemy units as well as the train. Can you talk a little bit just a bit? Yeah, definitely, you know I think Dr. Porch talked a little bit about that how the Germans were so successful at combining all the different arms They were really good at using the infantry and the tanks and the air power Together and we weren't so good at that. So that's one of the first sort of broad things They tried to emphasize in the Desert Training Center, but they also had in the beginning of the American involvement in the war in North Africa. They had observers There and they were bringing combat reports back and bringing them to the training in the desert and applying those to the more the smaller unit exercises so it was really kind of being molded and Evolving as the training was going on you have to give them army credit for that that they were trying to respond to the real conditions in the war and So it's kind of like a laboratory. Yeah, I think so and I one of the things that they noticed was The key for the young lieutenants, you know being able to take initiative on their own And that's one of the things that they really focused on in the desert They wanted them to have the confidence that they could take a unit out and survive and you know achieve an objective And you know a lot of these guys were 19 20 year olds and all of a sudden in charge of you know a whole squad of guys for their lives and so to give them that confidence that they knew that they could go out and achieve An objective in spite of all the hardships, which the desert certainly threw at them that really gave them Some of the tools they needed once they got overseas Imagine a lot of these soldiers 19 or 20 I mean we have a 22 year old who you know, I mean think about that. They were the ones that they fought this war and they fought this war and They just did it and and I don't know how many 18 or 19 year olds you all know But it's hard to imagine to be honest, right? So Yeah, do we want to open it up to questions?  I think And do we have cards? Is that the idea? Okay, we'll can do a microphone for questions Annie So what was what was the original seed of this project? I mean what you know at what point did someone say we need to make this film We need to tell this story in this way What was the seed? What generated this? We actually had done another film similar to this about the Desert Training Center focusing more on on pilots and Training pilots for the war and the Bureau of Land Management had really wanted to tell this story as part of a bigger effort called Discover the Desert and they worked out a deal with one of the solar installation companies and it was in a sense they kind of wrote it into a mitigation they said You know, we really want to do this documentary for PBS if you help fund that then We'll work with you on some of the construction stuff that they had to do so it was in the end it was Your tax dollars at work here trying to do federal mitigation and to get to get this story told and and to really support the efforts of They're discovered the Desert Campaign I mean there's a lot to see down in the desert and and I can tell you it you know It takes a while to see it, but when you explore it's it's pretty amazing actually. There's actually What it may be 15 or 20 BLM archaeologists in in the Western States or at least in California in the West Coast area and you know because of budget restraints they don't get an opportunity to do some really interesting and important work in terms of Recording and interpreting history whether it's like You know deep history with you know, Native Americans occupying that area or the more recent Stuff, so there's a lot of frustrated historians and archaeologists who know that we have a tremendous amount of Important information to convey to the the the general public and in fact, it's you know part of their mandate To administer those those lands on behalf of the public so they looked for and found a creative way to fund a Public information public education campaign that feeds into that Discover the Desert effort and Like I said Matt had found you know historic footage, so I mean everybody knew that this is a really Dynamite topic. I imagine Susan you probably enjoyed, you know cutting this thing together because it is such a It's a very compelling Angle by which to experience World War two to see it from that that aspect our Desert resource played an hugely important role when you think of one million Combat veterans pass through that landscape in just two years and they fanned out once North Africa It only took six months before North Africa was secured, you know after the start of Desert torch They found out across the world. They fought in the Pacific they fought in in Europe They fought in Italy everywhere so You know, it's it's a really unique and important aspect to our own American history and the local history if you're a Californian or at least Western States a person We could have done a series, but we did a half-hour show Yeah, so much more to say Yeah, hi there, I've got two questions One how soon did the troops know they were training for North Africa if that was a secret or not? And the second one is, you know when they did land in North Africa, they were actually fighting the French first So I was curious to know whether that was that all confusing to the troops. Yeah, because yeah The ironic thing is most of the troops in the Desert Training Center did not end up in the desert, right? So it's it's ironic, but it was still a good training ground for the other places that they didn't add up You know some of the first ones that ended up in the Aleutian Islands So you can imagine they're surprised after having been in the desert in the summer and they're up in the Aleutians But I don't there was no surprise and everybody knew that we were gonna go to North Africa So a lot of the troops that went to some of the first units to the Desert Training Center knew that they were gonna Go to North Africa and I think they were a lot of them were excited You know it actually be the first troops to gain some combat What was the temperature inside a tank in the summer? Did they have air conditioners at that time? No air conditioners In the summer, I can't imagine how hot I mean there's Footage of troops frying eggs on the exterior of some of the M4 tanks. So imagine what it was like inside We were scouting just I would say what was that end of May or something like this Yeah, and it was like 110 up to 117 degrees the day we were scouting I mean it's it's a little warm there, you know, and it's cold at night. Yes It's high desert, right? It's high desert down the wind. You heard the veterans talk about the wind I don't know if you remember the wind Jim, but that's one of the things that I hear so much about from veterans and the sand Getting into everything. Yes, you had You had plenty of that Sandy eggs sand and wind Yes, you didn't mention the fact that there is a visitor center and museum there and Which gives all sorts of details about that They do the the church Pat Memorial Museum. In fact, they have this DVD and and they're we worked with them extensively on the project a lot of the stills you saw up there also you I think this could more properly be known as the Colorado deserts on the Mojave, but that may be a You know detail and another question did the we had a big military and army training base here in Camp Roberts near past the Robles a huge base which California Northern California's are very familiar with to what extent did those two bases interconnect or Cooperate or did they were they totally distinct? Yeah, they were actually distinct although some units would go from one to another But the desert training center was different in the sense that it was really a maneuver grounds It wasn't a base like Camp Roberts was so it was used to kind of put the finishing touches on a unit Particularly divisions they would come from a place like Camp Roberts go out to do the desert training center for several months to Maneuver against other large divisions before they were sent overseas You know, I'll just add to that that training area is considered so valuable that we currently have two major installations still to this day out there we have 29 palms the Marine base that's out there plus Or is it Erwin for Erwin? Yeah, which is a highly specialized one of only three. I think You know very specialized training sites in the United States that actually attracts Military from allies from around the world We interviewed the commander of Fort Erwin and he said very similar stuff You know like nothing beats the desert for training. I mean and they really have adopted that and It's still in forms and they have full, you know for Overseas for Afghanistan and Iraq. They have really extensive Villages and all towns and stuff. Yes, pretty wacky Can you tell us what you did to locate the veterans that you interviewed for the documentary? It was a big job to be really honest. I mean we interviewed 14 veterans and we probably reached out to I don't know 50 or so and a lot of things had to happen to do it, you know People like Jim who are you know have you know, very just incredibly Cogent and thoughtful about their experience And so we did our best to try to find folks like that and and as you can see you know in the in the show A lot of them are not not everybody made the edit but but everybody we interviewed had great great stories And and I just have to reiterate what an honor it is to interview them and to be able to upload their You know their interviews for everybody. I mean there was The guy with the The Boston accent who loved the desert and loved the blooming of the desert. He sat down He didn't get up for four hours He sat there for four hours all he did was talk and he goes you should have to get up to go to the bathroom I mean it was it was like he was amazing and it was you know, there was a sense of catharsis a little bit I mean with some of them and with us to you know to hear these these stories these Vets who of course were first of all very generous to share their stories with us And it's really really as you can imagine moving to listen to them talk my dad served in World War two in the Navy I'm sure other people's relatives served in the war and you've heard some of these stories and you know these are perfect strangers Whether it was Althea talking about you know her nursing career. She retires a full colonel in the in the army You know and to hear her talk about these guys who she realized I mean she served in the Korean War she served by Vietnam She knows when she says it does not serve our soldiers when they are so tight-lipped and so taciturn and they keep They retain their stories, you know within them and they there isn't that catharsis So that when we hear it we know that that's sort of part of this unburdening process that that we were Fortunate enough to to be part of but we had researchers helping us and we put words out to you know the call out to veterans group Groups the VA in a local VA hospitals. We found you know, I think Kevin you found the the guy who managed the tanker outfit From where we got you know our our okies and Texans you know to talking about you know they're the 740th tank battalion How to take out a tiger tank So we were just really fortunate that we're able to locate a lot of these guys Tommy Thompson the the the guy who talked about you know dancing girls and it was dangerous and stuff It privately talked a little bit about this on camera but he says not a day goes by that he doesn't remember the battle of the Bulge he was deep in the battle of the Bulge and he and he just tears rolled up and he just said not a day goes by that He doesn't remember it and he's like 93 and you know you just it was pretty horrific to hear him talk about the battle of the Bulge And to talk about his experiences there was you know it was winter and the frozen the bodies were frozen and just it was It was really rough and you know we also have to remember and I say this was all due respect to my Russian Russian dance teacher friend Nikolai that you know the war for the most part was won on the the eastern front We forget how much the the Russians and the Eastern Europeans suffered you know 20 25 million dead a lot of them civilians Maybe the bulk of them civilians the US suffered somewhere in the neighborhood of you know 400,000 or more You know deaths military deaths we were never bombed So you know there's a lot of perspective that We need to appreciate and understand as not just Americans but as world citizens you know this was a world war And yes we made this program about our contribution to the war but you know if we had made this a 60 minute film Instead of a 30 minute film there would have been more about the rest of the world and how it you know stood up And and did what it had to do as well to to you know overcome fascism Question Is there still an issue down there? It seemed like they covered a lot of ground and and and you're willing to have visitors and all this There's still an issue with the unexploded ordinance that's as a matter of fact there is If you ask the BLM archaeologists they'll tell you yeah they're a little wary of people trumps you know tromping around certain areas You know in those mock battlefield areas there was live ammunition and even an inert round still has a charge in a lot of cases So there's thousands and thousands of anti-tank mines placed in the desert so and it's not been cleared We found a lot of rounds out there and we had to sign waivers I mean they didn't tell us about that though until after we'd signed the contract They did they did use Italian POWs interesting story right I had a couple of units of POWs that were stationed out on the Colorado River And they had them do some EOD work explosive ordinance disposal So imagine these poor Italian young men stuck out there in the desert clearing the desert of EOD But they didn't get anywhere near the extent of you know the areas that were used You can see on maps it's marked right where the unexploded ordinance is you know allegedly to be and it's a pretty extensive area isn't it They told us if you saw metal not to strike it in really hard with any sharp objects Annamarie is a filmmaker's wife frustrating a scary proposition Other questions we have room time for about maybe one or two more I think Once again thank you gentlemen for your hard work I'm curious in the psychological training that was involved was there any exposure in your research to Obviously the mechanics of what was needed had to be trained But I think also psychologically these men had to be trained to know that we're going to win this Because it looked pretty bleak going in Was there any research or known training? Certainly one of the things that struck me was again the battle reports from North Africa A lot of the observers were noticing that the Americans did not have that sense of killer instinct You know one of the veterans talked about that Americans weren't killer by nature or something like that And that was one of the things that they really wanted to enure those soldiers and Patton certainly had that And he wanted to give the troops the desire to close with the enemy and kill them You know he wanted to make them killers so that was certainly part of the training I think I'll let Jim talk about that in his training but I think that was probably the most important part of their psychological training Jim what was your sense of that? Well what's the psychological? Well the whole idea that here you were in the states and you were going to go overseas and you were going to have to be killers It was going to be killer be killed and just you know kind of framing your mind around that Personally I didn't give it much thought until I got over there and somebody was shooting at me Bullets have a way of doing that I'm sure For example after towards the end of the bulls I had been made a squad leader just before the bulls And I have to gather my thoughts on it I'm sorry it's drifted away from me That's okay you know coming out of World War I the term was shell shock And I think that World War I ushered in this era of heightened technology I mean the equipment was so much more devastating You know goodbye cavalry now you have tanks and you have mobile artillery and you have you know Stuka dive bombers And I think the level of horror that the World War II soldier faced was just at a magnitude of order so much higher And I don't think that our psychological response to that level of you know dealing with so much carnage and just you know the explosive charges were so much more powerful That it's taken us a long time to catch up with how to deal with the effects of exposure to battle What do you think? Yeah I mean they were really trying to get them used to the sights and sounds of the battlefield so you see training where they're crawling under barbed wire and they're firing machine guns over the top of them They're exploding you know rounds mortar rounds nearby them as close as possible without injuring them to get them used to that sound which you know few of us can really say what that's like unless we've been in that situation It's hard to wrap your mind around Well in that though the combat course and you did it at night we at least we did and you've got live ammunition passing over your head and you see the tracers and they're setting off explosives all around you But somehow you know that they're not going to harm you I mean I don't know what it is but when you're overseas and in a minefield you're aware of it What I was going to say though and it's kill or be killed and I never actually had to point my personal arm weapon at somebody and fire a shot because I didn't see them But I had a sniper a couple of times who was firing at me and I knew he was firing at me and I couldn't dig in and I felt like you know an SOB if I can ever get a shot at him I'm going to take him out And when there's something impersonal about firing a mortar or even observing a mortar because you're away from it and it's probably like bombing a city You don't know that you realize the death and destruction but another time when we were on the Rohr River just prior to pushing off from the Rohr River after the bulge had been cleared off We had been taking German fire from artillery pieces the whole time we were there from mid December or so till the 20th of February and it got a little bit tiresome But on one occasion you could never see their guns I mean I was a forward observer during that period and I would go up a couple of days every week while we were there and control some of the fire And on this one occasion the ground had been frozen and we had light snow that covered it and we got a sudden change in the weather one day And the artillery piece suddenly the camouflage was no longer camouflage because the little light covering it snow had melted and we saw the pieces out there And I got to direct the 81 millimeter mortars because it was beyond our range and there apparently wasn't a spotter plane that they could get up there and wanted to get firing on it And I directed the artillery to that at the time and they had just come in with some shells that had radio in them so that they didn't explode on a time basis But they got a signal from the ground back to the radio and you got an air burst that was an air burst and they bracketed in on the piece I was giving the instructions to my lieutenant and he was forwarding it to the artillery pieces and when we got it bracketed in then they cut loose with a barrage of about three pieces And the Germans didn't know what hit them and there was a rush of adrenaline in you because by golly you saw it happening firsthand And that's I mean you were glad to knock them out and no question about it and that's part of the game So Jim did you bring your poem? Yes I'm sorry what's that? Okay yeah so I will say that for public television we offered it up on the satellite and it looks like right now 110 stations have taken it and it looks like it's going to be like 190 maybe 200 broadcasts A lot of them are going to be in Memorial Day so KQD is going to be running it, KVIE, KOCE, all the West Coast stations are going to be having it and then actually we were thrilled I mean for a kind of a modest half hour film to get that kind of carriage is really really a big success and I think in honor frankly a response to the quality of the interviews with the veterans I mean the veterans are so compelling so I want to say one thing I think Jim has a poem here is that right? I do I can recite it I think Okay I think he's going to recite a poem which we found very lovely I wrote this poem before I was drafted I wrote this poem in either December or January December of 1942 or January of 1943 while I was still going to college and it started I tabbed it to soldiers poem and it is he had heard the order to advance and now was on his way marching across that desolate stretch in order to enter the fray Don found him in the battle fighting for what was right too well he knew man could not live in a nation ruled by might he crawled into position and there for a while he lay till he saw a German moving 200 yards away his gun was at his shoulder the German in his sights he squeezed the trigger tightly and his face turned deathly white the battle raged for many months until the GIs won soon they'd be returning for now their job was done he thought of things that had happened that night as he knelt to pray and he asked the God in heaven to hear what he had to say some mothers now are waiting for their sons whom I have shot am I to say it's nothing that they had cast their lot is this what we are born for to kill our fellow man to destroy the things we dearly love and further what they began dear God I ask you guide us in the peace that we shall write that men may live the way they should and boys not have to fight thank you


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