So this is the first time we're trying this on YouTube. I think we're live. I don't know. I hope so. But not so as out today, he's in a wedding. So today I decided to bring in the Homie Smellboat from Smellboat Seeds. Originally when I was gonna start the first podcast, when I started doing live streams, this is who I was going to do that with. And he got busy with other stuff in life and we're both donors. So we just lagged and never worked out. But I'm super stoked to bring him on because he's probably one of the people I have the most fun talking with. And I know everyone will super enjoy him. So without further ado, let me figure out how to bring in a different background and add in my buddy, Smellboat. It's me, Smellboat. Oh, I can hear you. What's up, Brad? Ah, good, Bubba. How are you? Glad to have you, dude. Glad to have you. So I wanted to first start talking about what is Smellboat?   So video games, long ago, there used to be, it's probably still around too. When I was like 2019, so 25, 26 years ago, we used to play this game called Counter Strike. And my name was Smellboat on Smellboat Captain. Smellboat Captain. Smellboat Captain, the captain of the Smellboat on Counter Strike. And it sucked to get killed by the Smellboat Captain. I bet, dude.  So did you just combine two words? Pretty much. That's it. Yeah, that's smart. Yeah, like Carl Larry was another thing when I was all like in Nintendo, when they would say baseball games, they would say a player's names. They'd be all Carl Larry. So my baseball players were always Carl Larry. My shooter games were always Smellboat. So yeah. I like that. I like it.  Cool. I mean, yeah, like the first thing I see is people are like, what is a Smellboat scene?  Yeah. It's a human.  So we first started talking on the forums back in the day. And then first became like really good friends. Yeah. Pretty much at the beginning of Instagram. Yes. So we first started talking really heavily. Yeah. And at some point, like we had always talked about hanging out because we don't live terribly far from each other. We're both Valley Boys, like Central Valley Boys, not San Fernando Valley Boys. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So at some point, we made a decision to go on this trip to Emerald Cup together.  And you were just there. They were bringing the big gun. We'll punch the motherfuckers.    Let's go have a good time, you know? We brought peatie. Peatie? Yes. Hold on. Hold on. I can actually, let's see. Where is it? I'll show off peatie. Yeah, there's a peatie. Let's go show off a peatie. Hold on a second. Let's see what a peatie bird looks like.  OK, here's a peatie. Let's find the peatie. There is a peatie. There's a peatie bird. A brother from another mother. So that young fella, God, what was he like? Early 20s when he went with this.  He's not even 30 yet. You know, like, yeah, so he had never done any kind of anything. He had helped me with like some local shows and things like that because I don't like people too much. So he was so reliable. He did all the talking, you know?  He's good, man. Yeah.  You remember the NCGA booth? You remember the booth? Do you remember us getting kicked out of the booth like four times? Dude, I got kicked out. That's the lady. The lady was there.  I don't know why. She changed her feelings from hating me to liking me to hating me again. And eventually we had to move on because it was just chaotic. Yeah. But I remember dying, like falling asleep. And peatie found the only cup of coffee and all of emerald cup after chasing one for two hours for me. So I haven't throw a prop to peatie in here. Yeah.  We'd make multiple trips back and forth through the car. I love it. That was a brutal weekend. That was, that was, I don't think we got back to the hotel. Well, remember, we didn't get there until like 2 or 3 in the morning. Yes. And then we had dinner.    Do you remember that little tiny restaurant cafe that we found with the pie? The lady had all those homemade pies. And she was closed.    Everything's done.  And we went back to the hotel with like 40 pies. I remember.  I was just like, oh man, he's sleeping. He's having a lot of money. Just falling asleep in money and pie. I just went and took your money from you.  Go to bed, sleepy man. And then the next day, I was like 40 times more tired. Dude, so that's right though. We got there at like one or two in the morning. We didn't have the food. Didn't get to the hotel until like three or four. And then had to be at the show like at nine in the morning or something.   Yeah, we stayed long. Until the night. Yeah, until the night. And then day two, I had to do the interviews.  We were all like, can we just go?  I can make the drive. You two just sleep.  I was like, yeah, just go. That was crazy. We did it somehow. That was the weekend of the Golden Coast thing too. Now that I think about it. It was. That was when that really got handsome. And what's his name too? Popcasted. Yeah. And then Swarf. Swarf was there. The weekend, Swarf, she just dance? Yeah, I think. And then what's his, one of the big dudes, I thought it was the Hawaiian guys, but it wasn't. Grayskull? He was there. It wasn't Grayskull.  So we had to settle him down too. That was Grayskull.  There you go. It was Grayskull. He had found out about what would happen with me and Dave.   And I was like, dude, he's not going to fight. He just keeps calling for lawyers.  That's it. That's it.  That was a fun trip when I went out to Maui and visited Grayskull and Joey and them too. Oh, I bet, dude. I wish you could have been there. Killer weed, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they lost fucking. I was supposed to get in on the Thursday. I never even, I basically sat in the airport all day. Then they flew me to LA because I don't like to go to the drive to the big airport. So I'll fly out of the little airports just because I don't want to leave my car, you know?  And then they fly me to LA where I was supposed to go to San Francisco. And then I get there and my plane had already left. So then I had to stay at the hotel. Didn't get to the hotel until like one or two. Had to be at the airport back at five. I did meet John Sally that morning. And we smoked before we went into the airport. So that was really funny. But yeah, then I flew out and I was supposed to go to that show. But they lost all my luggage. And it had like my whole court bound in it for the show.  So I was like, and then I get there. And I'm like, come to the show, come to the show. And I was like, dude, I've airport lived for like two straight days. I'm not, I'm not. Yeah, I'll come and see you guys tomorrow. I'm done.   I wish to God. I wish to God.  Those pies were so good. I honestly couldn't tell you what any of those. I can't even tell you what any of them tasted like.  And we were like, I was a pie. That's what it was. We had litter, but she had like all these different quarter of a pie, half of a pie, and she's up. Well, what do you want slices of? And I literally saw, just give us all the pie. Just empty.  And I was like, no, no, for real. You just give us all the pie. All of it. We want it all. And then she, I think she ended up making us food.  They were like, there was the nicest old lady in history.  I guess.  I know three dudes standing outside drooling. Pie. Pie. I think we ended up eating there the next day as well, like twice. I think we went there twice. Yeah, we probably did. I would have no recollection. There were people I met that weekend and hands I shook. And I could, I was so tired. I've never been more tired. That was the, that was the interview with the other, that kid, the Australian kids. And then the, the commercial thingy with a. Microblyte. Microblyte.  I don't even remember like saying where I don't remember it. I literally don't remember. Like, I know we went and did it. Yeah. Because we did it. Did you do an interview with your one of your brothers? Yeah, with, with, yeah, with the good brother, with the cool brother. Oh, with the cool brother? Yeah. Oh, see, I thought it was the other one.  Okay, gotcha.   So it was, it was good until he became a weirdo. Yeah, I mean, for people not watching, don't know, if you're familiar with mad farmer seeds, this is his biological brother. Like biological, we're not just saying like, hey, this is a brother, like my brother. Same mom, same dad, same grew up together.  So he's, he's been around to see all of that company forming, but he was always doing his own thing at the same time in a different area. So let's talk about how you started, dude. I mean, we've never covered it on the syndicate. It's been covered elsewhere, but I'd like to cover it just to, just to jump off.  So like, literally, I remember the first plants I actually grew myself, I hid in the front yard of a small town in Oklahoma. Because my dad had got caught with 180 kilos and we left California, you know, obvious reasons. And we moved to Oklahoma because it's a much more lenient state in the 80s. The California. Yeah, why? I mean, why wouldn't we go to Oklahoma? The whole place is, why not? Yeah, dude, so, so just honestly, the whole story is, my grandfather was the chief of police. My dad's brothers were both sheriffs. My dad got caught with 180 keys, did a couple of months. When he went to court, there was no marijuana left. The marijuana had vanished. Walked away. Yeah, left. So they let him out. He went to my grandma's, grabbed a bunch of pounds out of the attic and we drove to Oklahoma and lived there for four or five years so like things could calm down.   I'm sure I always went to school smelling like marijuana. I remember when Reagan and him started the dare program, the cops always wanted to talk to me and I didn't ever understand why. I had to run down. I knew what was going on. So anyways, I grew these little plants. I used to collect all their seeds and my uncle would mow the yard like once a year.  And so that was the first time I grew it. And then I got obsessed.  I'd go and put little seeds in the ground and then I would literally start. I started to learn that if I put paper bags over the top of the plants, they would make them flower. And so I would leave little paper bags and we'd come back the next weekend and I'd take the paper bag off and then there'd be like these little eight inch plants that had started to replower. Yeah, dude. And I didn't want to smoke it or anything else.  But my first really big growth is when I got out of the Army, I was pretty mentally busted up. Like my brain was fucked.  And so I was looking for a place to grow. Like that was what I wanted to do. It was about 1997.  And so there's a little town here called Three Rivers. They're Three Rivers, California. It's right at the base of the Sequoias. And I went up there and a friend of mine's brother had this big side of a mountain that was completely, there's nothing. There's nothing. It was right off of the road. No roads, no water, no anything. So my bright idea was to, hey, let's start growing on the side of the mountain and let's grow from the bottom all the way up to the top.  Yeah, yeah. So I do it and I'm killing it, man. And these plants are getting big and they're getting beautiful and spring comes, you know, and the rains come back. Then we used to get a pretty good round of rain and I started getting these. There was a creek that ran down it. So I started setting up these big 300 gallon water troughs down into the ground. So as the creek ran, it captured it and it made that life a lot easier.    That is gross.  And I ran and I never went back and I never checked on my plants.    So then the following year, I didn't grow up on that land anymore. I got this old rancher guy up in Swa Valley who had 180 acres or so. And it was really cool.  Like in the 70s or 80s, they were doing a Western movie. So it was literally a facade. Like you go down the road and it was just like faces of these old saloons and motels and stuff.  Like the fireplace in this hotel was like the size of my house. And it was completely flooded out. Well, the story has it is that they were doing a Western and the movie never got made. And then when the people who were like paying for the movie showed up, it was just a bunch of people running around naked doing LSD and Coke. So they pulled the plug on the movie, left everything up there. This guy bought it, turned it into like a huge cattle ranch and basically just let me have free will.  I liked it. And back then it was worth so much. It was worth way, way more. And I would do it.  I would be driving through town at three to four in the morning with the back of the truck just trash bags just filled up. And it's all filled with pounds. Just like, just driving, everything is fine. I'm white. Don't look at me caught. Yeah, yeah, yeah.  Thank God because I'd still be in prison. Like I would still be in prison to this day. But so that's why you remember like you had brought up like we used to talk to each other. Like it was, I always thought it was overgrown but you had corrected me today and said the other name. Oh, no. CDPO was, CDPO is where I first met your brother. It could have been earlier. Okay. So where your brother first made his name and like made a bunch of quotes was on CDPO. Yeah, yeah. If that still existed, things would be different. CDPO, you and I would talk. And it was funny because it was basically because my name was smellboat. Yeah. And I had a lot of pictures of stuff.  You know? And I was like, oh, it's just stuff I'm growing right now.    A thousand pounds. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of worked. Yeah. I was so exhausted back in those days. Like, and then I had, I just fucked. And once again, I got so tired and fed up with the partner back then. Kind of had to falling out. Kind of had M16s pointed at me. At the time, I remember I was only a little bit out of the infantry. So I also was handy with weapons. Yeah. So it crossed my mind to go and take what was mine. But I thought better of it. Probably smart. Yeah. I made it enough to be happy and build a really big nice indoor grow.  And then my indoor grow just got bigger and bigger and bigger and more and more.  And it doesn't work.  I'm looking at my camera. Yeah, it doesn't work well with stress. I don't know. No, and then I find myself laying on the couch. Yeah. Everything hurts. Yeah, I said. But I kind of covered the start. Yeah, yeah, I think that covered the start. I think it covered the start.  Yeah. So like I would just have males and to preserve the genetics, I would literally take a male and see that one branch. And then that branch would get kept in those seeds.  Yes. Yeah, yeah. Lots of different types. Yeah, and then I got really, really serious about it when I hallucinated from that chocolate cherry one. Oh yeah, that'll do it. Made me feel like I was on mushrooms. And I was like, you know what?    It was, it was way too strong. I had the clockwork orange, it was like that. And people would ask me like about it. I'm like, I don't know. I don't smoke it. It's not what I like. It's not the, it's too strong in a way that I don't like, you know? It interacts with me to where it fucks me up in a paranoid kind of, yeah, not fun way. And I like fun ways. So some of your first releases with those with when we were releasing them for a seeds, it was your first release or did you talk to me before that? I know, you talked to me into it. I always try to talk to the best guys into it, keeping seeds around it and making seeds and joining the seed revolution. It was like three years. Yes, three years. It's like three years of y'all, you need to release seeds and I was like. Yeah, I like the stuff I was seeing. It was during, a lot of it was during the beginning of the cookies era. And, but it was right at that point where we were like, okay, we're sick of seeing cookies. They're sick of seeing cookie stuff. What can you do that's unique with cookies?  So let's talk about what you were working with to get to that point. Yeah, so funny how this worked out. So there was a website called Kanazon. Do you remember that? Yeah, well, I remember Kanazon. So Kanazon, I had a really good friend on Kanazon that went by the name Smoke. He was from Canada. And that is where I sourced that chocolate of the chocolate tie, Rob. Okay, Rev, I got the cherry for the cherry tie. Rev's cherry tie. I don't know how tie-e-tie it is. There's tie-in for sure. It's a few different things. I think there's two totally different males. Yeah, it is. And with more females. Two-Sing flowering tie. I think that's what Rev was doing, he didn't want a 90, 120 day. He's trying to get it down to 80 days.  And I got to tell you more about that too, but smoke could send me these seeds. And smoke was hilarious, dude. If you were ever on Kanazon, you would know who he was. I was banned. He was bashing one liter bottles, clear plastic soda bottles. That was his growth.  And he grew up really pretty flower. But every grow, he did one branching. And that's how he became friends. Because I told him about like, oh my God, dude, this is how I used to do it. Yeah, yeah. And he sent me literally like 10 seeds of everything he had ever done.  He sounds familiar. Yeah. I'm sure I knew who he was from Poppamp or something. Yeah. And he was, he spoke French better than English.  So I would write in English, translated all into French and send it to him. And send him mumbo jumbo. It's happened at the time.  I know. Why did you keep a costing him like that?  So dude, I still email with him at least once a year. And he still has 12 of the original chocolate seeds. Oh, really? 12 of them. He said this, so he stabbed somebody a few years back. He called them gorillas, tried to rob them. He stabbed one of them. Had to go do this whole court thing.  And he says, as soon as everything dies down, those seeds are mine. So I can look deeper into it. Let's see. Hopefully he gets that. Dude, I still don't know what it is. He called it chocolate tie number one, two, three, seven. Just, it's little plastic bags, marker, and lots of numbers.  When I hit that with the revs, I'm not kidding. The people who got to smoke it, it was literally like a chocolate cherry candy. Like it was- I might even have pictures of this now that I'm hitting. It was some milky chocolate with a cherry finish.  So that's the one that made me hallucinate. It did.  It was there. That's with the rainbow. So that is- Oh, so that's chocolate cherry. Chocolate cherry with back to rainbow back into it. Cause chocolate cherry, I took a mil from that and hit triangle with it. And that made what I ended up finding my red vine. That's right. And then I took a male from red vine and OGKB had just hit the scene.  This plant used to get called duck foot.   I got a cut of it and I hit it with the chocolate cherry. The OGKB didn't get me super ripped.   So the red vine was that medium though. So you got the chocolate cherry in there now that I created that with triangle. That's where I found red vine. Now red vine isn't the name of that cross cause I used to not name my crosses. I just think this is what it is, you know? Red vine was that mom. There was a certain plant named red vine cause it tasted like the licorice. And then so a male from that went to OGKB.   I took a bud off of it. And I put it back into and cloned it and everything like that.     I liked everything about it. That bitch started to get resin like in week two. Like it's all, I'm growing, I'm growing hairs and resin, you know? This is kind of weird. So it ended up re-veging. I actually think I took like 12 cloves off of that plant.  Like I knew there's something was telling me that this plant, there's something about it, you know?  One of them came out quick. The next ones took a little longer.  Oh my God. Out of that little white tip.  Mother's grown. And you kept it around anyways cause it was still in the living. Yep.  Yeah.  I remember I had a train wreck and it was, it was when I decided to get rid of train wreck and I took it out. I think it was like the last clone in a solo cup at the time in an apartment.  I'm like, I guess I'll keep you again. You know, then it died. Of course after that it died. Of course after that.  You manually done something accidentally.  Real quick, I want to show these off cause someone sent these in today. My buddy Skidwell, I showed you these earlier but these are the riot seeds. Yes.  He made my logo 3D and made it perfect. Now this is my- You showed me some other ones today too though. Yeah, these ones, these ones. This is actually our colors of our logo and stuff and art assigned on the back.  So yes, it's permanently mounted behind me now. I wanted to thank Skidwell for it. It's always gonna be right here. So thank you Skidwell for all the hard work.  So yeah, I had to throw in some props. So let's talk what you've been doing the past few years.  I go into a shale, I go into me time, I got to get away from everything. I've been working like crazy.  I did, people kept asking me for female seeds. So I did a female project with both reversing rainbow. I didn't like how rainbow reverse, she was hard to reverse.  Like I wish my buddy was in the chat right now. Let me see if he's in here. I see the podcast, what's up the podcast? I was looking for, I don't want to say his real name and I forgot his fucking, his name. Oh my goodness. I have to get to some of these. There's a lot of comments. We're gonna have to take a minute. Oh yeah. So anyways, oh it's baked to a crisp. I wish baked was in here because rainbow sister's like rainbow, right? But she's more purple and you get more of this chocolate menthol than you do with the rainbow.    I can't really explain. The sister, I can explain. It really carried the smoothness of chocolate. Now, you don't get the berry or any of that back on the back end. It's like menthol chocolate. It's almost like one of those peppermint patties but I don't want to say that because that's not true. This is the one that Bryn liked, right? The chocolate, the chocolate fino or the rainbow? Yep, yep, yep. That's the one. Bryn, yes, yeah, yeah.  I crossed so many strains that I actually liked. Like I actually liked wedding cake. So that's one of the newer strains that I liked.  Triangle, the San Diego cut, which you have to grow or see because you have to, it's one that we've talked about for years. Shit, what else? I fucking, great pie. Great pie crust is great too. Yes, dude. Erkel, SR 71, Erkel, whatever, fucking, I swear they're the same plants that just kind of veered off into two different hours. Yeah, right?  So that was one of the first projects. You remember, you were sending me the reversal spray.  Yes, it was. It was like when we went to the cup. Yeah, I think it was when I got home, I sent you some spray. You sent me the spray. And then I did another rainbow, the triangle by rainbow. I wanted to make some, I've been, I started obsessing over the old OGs, like unhealthily, like obsessing with the old OGs. So I took a triangle by rainbow and started hitting all my old OG cuts and making regular seeds out of those. And I did that project. OG regular seed lines?  There is some OGs that are coming out of there that you'll get to see that are, it's like, holy fuck, like you actually did it. You kind of brought OGs, like the OGs I remember back into the old. Yeah, OGs of nowadays are very different than what we remember the dank old OG. I mean, like I can think of a few different, like expressions that I'm used to seeing in OGs. And anything past that, I don't really consider it OG because they weren't the original expressions of it.   We've got some really nice expressions out of them. Once again, I grow, I have always bred for myself. And it just so happens that people like the same kind of stuff. Some people like the same kind of stuff I like. So some of the stuff I breed people like, my flowers never are gonna be your biggest yielder in your room.  Like, you know, I just get something you breed for, yeah. That's not what I breed for, man. I breed for, first I like flavors and that's why I started obsessing over the OG. I miss the gas. Like I missed that gas. I missed, people say gas, but there's so much more complexity to it. Like we were just talking, there was that accurate, like bile smell.  There was just those bad smells, you know?  Like everything was sweet now.  Everything is the same. That's where we all come down.     A lot of people still like wedding cake, despite it being all hypey and in a lot of stuff, it still is a pretty good plan despite all that. I'm trying to find some good questions for us while we're going through. Here we go. Here's a good question. When was the first time you remember seeing Urkel, Smelly?  God damn. It was definitely 90s. Let me, I don't know at the time it was actually called purple Urkel at the time when I started first seeing the purple strains. Yeah.  Yeah, exactly. And so I started first seeing those real purple strains in Northern California. In that 90s, so everything that was coming out was these big giant green spears. And then all of a sudden these little purple flowers and Jesus Christ, it like set the world ablaze.   The kid's allergic to it too. See, I don't remember you saying that. Like the terpenes, like literally the terpenes in the air, like the pollen it produces, it grips me to shreds. It makes my immune system attack for myself.  And you mentioned that, you mentioned you have an immune disorder too, right? So what do you find that works best for that?  No, weed-wise though. Like the good combos of sativas that don't get you jittery, but it still gets you that motivation that, you know, like where I can get up and move.   Yeah. So the super sativas, like, and that's why like I love to breed with them, but I have to be really careful when I first breed with them. So my first rounds after I smoke them and stuff, I usually will take like one hit and just see where it's at. Yeah. And then if I don't get too elevated, I start to lean into it more, but that combination, man, and I do, I seen somebody had mentioned the CBD. Yeah. I like CBD in my, I like smoking even like, almost like hemp flowers. There's some hemp flowers now that smell good, taste good. Oh yeah. All that podcast, the shapeshifter cut came from, who's those dudes who do cement shoes and Colt Classics. Colt Classics, I got that cut from one of the cats, Marcus from Colt Classics. Yeah. It's a pretty good cut. That's why I worked with it. I enjoyed that cut. See what else we got here for you. What other questions have you got? Someone was asking about. I have to answer this one. Go ahead. Blockhead by Black Sativa.  The man who gave that to me is past. He died years ago. He handed me some amazing strains. So if you have the Blockhead by Black Sativa with the rainbow and she's abused, like just know that that came from a special place. I don't know what Black Sativa is. I'm assuming it's China Black or Vietnamese Black or something like that.  I remember that one, the Garbage Barge, yeah. Yeah. So the Blockhead by Black Sativa is a special girl. I love pot.  What about when Smelly ran into Afgu first? Do you have any experience with Afgui? I do. I'm pretty sure Afgui would never stay in veg for me.  So I ran her for a little while and that was it. It wasn't one of the ones that like for me that I was working with religiously. So I don't have a lot, a lot of experience.  Yeah, yeah. I had an AK-47 Afgui cross that literally just flowered under 24 hours light.  Yeah.  Yeah, you can't keep it in veg. You can't keep it in veg. So that was my experience with the Afgui and it made me sad.  And I just, it wasn't made for my mom or my spouse. Are we bottlenecking boys? I don't, I don't know what that means. I think people are confused about what bottlenecking means in cannabis, but if you notice, like you can cross things into each other, try to make it a uniform line and still can't happen in cannabis.  I mean, you can, you can increase in bread trades and like blueberry without bottlenecking too. Yeah. I think blueberry was so deep into its lineage. I mean, what, 15, 20 times in like. Yeah, I don't, the one that I ended up with, I have no many, it has, like they said that, so DJ was supposedly an F4 when they got it. Some dude worked at four generations. Another dude worked at another four generations and somehow kept the blueberry smell without looking anything like blueberry or having mutations. It's an interesting one. It's a really interesting one. I did roundy fly fishing. I did get some lots of different Kims from our friend in Santa Cruz. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah.  And then I had a sis. Yeah. I think he had one labeled Kim sis, Kim 91 and then the D, I, they're good plants. So the Kim D was a good plant.  So no complaints for me, like at all. So I did finally, and I worked with Kim a bit as well. I've never really been a Kim person myself. Like the Kim 91 itself, like I don't like smoking it too much. I think it's ugly. I mean, there's a good growth really well, like Skopje grows a killer plant.  I actually did okay with it. Like I could make her look decent enough, but no, you're right. She doesn't find her way into the garden very often. Because I do have these other OG cuts that I love. Somebody said something about the legend rainbow. I actually did that. I did a legend OG by rainbow and one of the crosses recently. Which one did you like out of the OGs that you've crossed to rainbow? Which is your favorite? The San Diego. San Diego OG? Yeah, for some reason. Triangle with rainbow, it really brings a lot of triangle because you got triangle in rainbow and triangle there. So you get a lot of OG, but you, this San Diego, once again, I wish one of the friend of mine, he's actually a really good friend. Got that girl right there. I love that one. God damn, I grow pretty weed. That's a pretty weed. Dude, the fucking, that skittles my rainbow right there. That's right here. The Z- What was the name of it? What was the name of that? You remember? Floodershy, I think. Oh, so both of these are Floodershy. They look like the same plants, I wasn't sure. They're both Floodershy. And what's funny is that is two different plants. Oh, wow. That's one in my garden, and one's in a friend's garden. That's cool. Which one do you think's in my garden? I'm gonna say the left looks like your photos. Dude, see the underneath shot? The one from up underneath. That one's mine. What? That looks like yours on the left. I know, but that's what's crazy.  They look almost identical. And the fella who grew that one on the left, I call him Meat Hands, because he breaks everything. Wait, is that the dude that I met? Uh-huh.  I remember me. You did, Boston. I didn't bother, yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Ham Hands, if we're being so serious. Ham Hands. And Ham Hands.  And honestly, I love Pod again. Once again, me and him talk quite often. I truly believe blue dreams and skittles. I truly believe it, especially with crossing with it and seeing it.  Like it's a trip. It might not be. Where did you, do you know where you sourced your skittles cut out? I got it from the, okay. So you know the guy, I don't, I'm just going to say, no, I'm not going to say his name. Do you actually know him? He's from Slow, San Luis Obispo. Okay. He used to always be with Gage in them. Okay. Okay.  Before skittles became cool, he was moving all their outdoor for him of the skittles. Shit was brown as fuck, but it had a good dose. Yeah. And I got it from him. So it was a.   In flower it just, I don't think the flower itself threw up. Yeah.   Let's do this thing right. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Here's a, did you guys down there run into the kind? And if so, was it traceable back to DJ or Washington growers? I remember just a kind bud. Yeah. That's, that's how I remember it. Yeah.   We used kind bud in the nineties to describe, you know, good green buds. Yeah. I still have seeds from those green buds that we were getting out of Humboldt in the nineties. And it's literally on pieces of scratch paper. And I have wrote it in pencil and it says Humboldt on it. And then one would say Humboldt IBL and then one would say like Humboldt green. I still have these seeds.  That's good. Just in case. Yeah. I doubt I would, I think we'd have to have them get actually like. Like embryonic rescue. Yeah. Yeah. Probably. And I don't even know if it would be worth it because so you would get pounds. And as you go through the pounds at the bottom of the pounds, you'd find a few seeds, you know, and when you were selling the pounds, you didn't want the buyers to see the seeds. So I'd pull the seeds out of all the pounds as they were coming down from up north.  What was it like just to come back in, right? That was the last time I smelled scum. That was the last time I smelled scum. Makes sense. Makes sense. And we still have some of those seeds. So there's definitely going to be some scum scents in some of those seeds. And that's the only reason why I would consider like trying to, I don't want to pop them because I don't think they would grow. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't think so, but they're still like DNA inside of that. Yeah. I know what you mean. It's disappointing.  I told you, I showed you the pictures of the stuff I had from my dad's prison when he was in prison.  That's a weirdo.  Literally, they were like crystallized on the inside. Oh yeah.  That wasn't like when I was a baby, but later in life.  You know, you're sending me seeds of gel. These must be special. And then somehow they got put into a box and that box got put to garage. How did he end up with seeds in jail?  That guy I'm telling you, man. Well, supposedly I was conceived while he was in jail. Well, I didn't see that. My mom just got a cruise out there, you know? I'm like, hey, what's up? So we're going to make a baby.   That's a good way to get, that's a good way to know that you're special is when your mama went to jail to make babies for you. Bring you into this world. Yeah, it's all like, ah, I heard you were conceived when you were in jail. I was like, yeah, that's probably a good one. So someone's asking, aren't there chocolate tie seeds, small, medium, or large?  And then I have also bred some that are large. I think it really depends like the male. Sometimes the male lets the little seeds come out.  But they grow, like they look pale.  And it's, I think a lot of it is because I don't want to let it go for 487 days to become black seeds, you know? Yeah, no, I have some that are really tiny. When was the, was it the green, does it green, some green tie? What did they call that one? There was a green something tie that's really tiny. The smallest seeds I've ever seen are those African seeds. The African seeds are like the size of a pinhead.  I've had some from the Mekong Delta. Delta 9 labs used to sell them. They were the Mekong Hayes, he called them, there's no Hayes in it, but it was just a Cambodian land race. It went 26 weeks, but they were tiny, tiny, tiny black.   Like I've seen variations of the tie, but once again though, like I don't, I only had so many pure tie seeds at the time. Like it wasn't like I had an infinite supply of those fuckers, you know? So like with revs, revs tie seeds, I actually still have three of the original seeds I found the cherry in. I have like 20 or 30 of those cherry ties left. Yeah, and they're decent size seeds.  Someone asked about if you're working any cool tie or Southeast Asians, where's that? Any cool tie, Southeast Asian varieties in the blunt you're finding on working within the near future? Well, everything with rainbow has lots of tie and I've backed it to cherry tie, I backed it to chocolate tie. So I love my ties. And like we were talking about like finding the ties that the mushroom filling, right? That took away all my pain, but it scared the ever.  So let me just put that out there.  So having flashbacks from weed isn't fun.   Delicious.  Yeah, I will forever work with tie. Yeah, yeah. Good job. I just like, I know some people, don't like the structure and don't like the stretch and those things, but I like to take a plant, put it in the flower and have her grow into a tree.  Like I don't want to grow leaves.  The least amount of time for growing leaves, the better. So I like my plants to stretch.   So keep that in mind. Keep that in mind.  How are you going to do that? I don't know. How do we want to do the giveaway? I don't know. Somebody's going to get a pack of the S1 rainbow sister rainbow sister that I'm obsessing over right now. How can, what can we do to give it away? Like there's random person, like, I don't know. Like guess the number. I'll write a number down. Yeah. Unless like three people guess the same number. Yeah. Whoever guesses it first. Let me have this fight for it. How's the RVK work coming along? I love red vine. I will forever, ever work with red vine. I did red vine by rainbow. I am going to be reworking with a new mail from those seeds eventually. But like I was saying, I have so many fucking, I'm just a critter.   Usually Welsh, you will find a keeper in every pack. Most of the people on here who have bought seeds from me would, I would hope would vouch for that. I found something that they enjoyed in my seeds. Let's see, somebody else says that. What should I graph to find that lemon pledge OG profile? I need a good OG.  The San Fernando Valley. Look, so I did work SFV with rainbow. I did, I did across with that. But then I started hearing some weird shit about SFV and that there was lies tied with it and some other stuff.  So I never sold any of, I don't think I sold it. I don't think we sold any of SFV by rainbow. I think I just gave them away as freebie packs.  I think that's it. Someone asked, where do they buy your gear? Right now? Well, they don't need you to hold up anywhere. No, I don't have it on any sites right now. Mr. Matthew here, right here. I'm circling with my mouse.  The next round of stuff we'll be carrying on the right side. So if people are looking forward to it, just hold your horses and we'll get it up there as soon as we slowly can. See, I love pot, OMYZ, the bonbons.   It's the weirdest thing.  Yeah, that's nice. It's a trip.  Yeah, but I think that I love pot has probably grown a lot of my seeds. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, I think he's grown a lot of my seeds. He's a good guy. I have several fellas in here who have grown a lot of my seeds.  I'm trying to read up. Oh, I see somebody asking, what is rainbow? There you go. OK, so fifth season, I'll go over it again because somebody did say some lies about what rainbow was, my brother. So rainbow started off with what I would say in the story earlier from a friend of my name, Smoke from Canada. And he called it chocolate tie. OK, and then the revs cherry tie. And that's the cross that I made that made me, you know, I I'm not kidding. My wife would vouch for it. I lost track of time. I went late in bed. She had to keep coming and checking on me. I had to keep asking her how long it's been. Like, I was in I was in a place, man.  Yeah, I'm doing mushrooms. I had stopped expanding my mind.  It wasn't comfortable. So OK, so Smoke's chocolate revs cherry, right? Yeah, I took a meal from that. And I was like, I told Matt, those I love OGs and Triangle has been one of my, like, go to OGs for breeding back in the day. So I hit Triangle with the mail. And then that's when I found the red vine. And I didn't really work with those anymore. It was done. The red vine was it.  That was it. I remember that era. Yeah. That was it.  Like it was that plant, that weirdo plant. So I took a meal from the red vine, which is the chocolate and the cherry plus the triangle. And I take a meal from that to the OGKB.  No, three year old did. She has the best names.  She's 13. She's 12 years old. She'll be 13. She'll be 13 in the next few months. I know. So that little girl, I was on the phone. It was you and me talking. And then my friend, my friend, Ryan, and I were talking.  The way it stacks, the way the resin is, but it was that smell and that turd.  So I get off the phone, you know, and she looks at me. She goes, daddy, I know what you can name your plant. And she's in there watching my little ponies. I was like, what's that? She's all rainbow SSOG. And I was like, all right. So the SS has no meaning.  It's not fucking. It's not a sunset Sherbert. It's not sour something or literally, this is a child's brain who named it rainbow because she loved rainbows. And she heard me talk about OGs. I don't know where the SS came from, but she said rainbow SSOG and I was all done. Done, done. Smarter than both of us combined. Don't go with her. Instantly, instantly.  Yes, you put it on one label.  And now there's people, so many different people trying to push different rainbows stuff. I do. It's been marketed to you. And unicorns, rainbows and unicorns, man. Oh, yeah, yeah.  You were the one that was super flaming for doing it. Now everyone's flaming with you. I know. Well, here's the fun thing. I don't think I've said it very often. I made a bet that I could name that like do this plant. The kid would name it these pony things and all this stuff.   Yeah, she did.  How good did those look though? Are those real? That was real. They're like those strawberry ones.    I'll let me get with the gay time for sure. I believe that was one of our Australian friends who sent me that picture. That's amazing. Yeah. Oh my god. God, yeah. So right there, I got that peppery white widow.  I still have some of those originals. I love that strain. Yeah. And SS is for boats, right?  It's true, man. It is for boats. And I understood that, but I didn't think a little kid like the SS men, I didn't think the three-year-old would know what it was. I always thought it was should stop in or whatever. Dude, somebody asked me that once. That's why I was being very clear. Yeah. Yeah.  No, no, no, there's no Nazi stuff. But my strain, Fluttershy88 might have something. I know, I know.  Applejack may have a couple of SSs on her hindquarters. A few lightning bolts might happen.   It's all super pink and everything. You don't really think I'm a Nazi. And oddly enough, we were drawn to each other.  And we've actually been to a rest stop together, so. Yeah, there was. We went, hey, we had Starbucks together. Yes, we did, dude.  We had lots of it. I mean, do you remember on the drive up, how like half of California was on fire and like people were lighting the highway on fire as we were driving up? Yeah, yeah. That's so weird.  Yeah, like people were lighting it on fire as we were driving. As we were driving. Yeah. They had like blow torches. Yeah. Torch guns. And they were just catching the road on fire.  Yeah, that was a weird one. I remember we went to some Mexican food restaurant in like Delano. That was pretty cool.  Beans and rice. I felt so bad because I don't eat when I travel. Yeah. Because I don't have a colon. It was removed. And I ordered beans and rice and I took a bite and I cried. I'm sure.   It was so good. I remember wanting to drive back and get more rice. I know.  We need to just turn around. Let's get some.  I miss. Dude, I've drove the 99 trying to find that. Like visualize it, but we were so dead. I can't. Like I knew it was like this little standy story thingy. And we got off of the road and it was like kind of in the middle of nowhere. It was by Delano, I think. Yeah.  I stayed out. PD had to piss. I had this. I needed to smoke and. I wanted to ride. Yeah.  So I was like, dude, I want, I want to try beans and rice too.  So I went in and just asked the girl as well, will you do a bowl of beans and rice? And then like a tortilla on the side. She's off. Do you just want to be in rice breed? I was like, no, no, no, no, listen, listen.      Yeah.   We did a live. We did a live. We did do a live. That was one of my first, very first life eats ever.  And I remember people are asking me questions on why I used aloe or something when I was cloning. And I was, I was, yeah. And I was just like, I thought it was always obvious. Like it's free cloning jail.   Yeah. I remember that. It was one of the questions that stick out for some reason. Yeah. That was one of the first, I think I had started doing live feeds a week before that to build up to the Emerald Cup cause I was going to be bringing a bunch of seeds. And I was like, Hey, we're going to be there, blah, blah, blah. And then on the way there was probably my second or third ever live stream. And then now it just never stopped and they couldn't get rid of me. I know. Now you're, I feel so bad that so many people have typed stuff. If there is something I'm going to look for like five minutes right now, I promise. If there's something you want me to answer, type it in cause I'll look right now.  SS is for super sexy. And I'm all like, look at all this. Exactly. Look at all this. Didn't you know?  And they're all like, whoa. Jesus. There's so much hair. It's like a werewolf. It's like a werewolf. Brin was asking me that question the other day. She was asking, why guys have to whiten more than once? Yeah.  Yeah, we have rappers. The fuckers want to hang on.   Who shot JFK? Probably several people. Probably several people. Yeah, it seems like it. Wait, I don't know though, cause I have been hearing, I have been hearing that JFK's alive and doing well. Yeah, that is true.  I'm just railing out Coke right now as we speak. And under Hazer's team of writers, you found you really liked. There was the, oh God. What was the brother's haste that was coming down to Seneca's? His brother's. His brother's. God damn. Yeah, that was the haze. Literally the haze. But I cannot smoke it anymore. Yeah, I bet.  I still can smoke Blue Dream though, and Blue Dream has some haze. Yeah, I love it. It has haze in it. And it was coming out of the same area that the Hayes brothers were working in, and they call it Santa Cruz haze. Santa Cruz haze had the Hayes brothers haze.  There's definitely some Hayes in it. I mean, it was Super Silver Hayes, I believe by Kentucky. I can't remember the name of the company that originally made the Super Silver Hayes, DJ Shorty, that would be very cross. It was used, but yeah. Yeah, it was something. So I still like that one. And that's where I like that. I like that mixture, because I can smoke Blue Dream and not get the jitters, you know? I think it's because of the blueberry in it. It just makes me think anti-anxiety. I love it. I love blueberry by itself. Like I love to smoke old blueberry that tastes like blueberry and it doesn't get you super high. That's why I like growing Calio too.    Yeah, right?  Not like twitching? Yeah, dude.  Oh, okay. So have you grown out Mon-Gooey or Pure-Gooey? How do you compare it to Pure-Gooey? Different than half-Gooey. You remember that one from a goo-breeder? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm not like super up to speed on gooey-breeders. I know what he did and stuff, but I had not gone around to grow a lot of it. I'd never grown any of it either myself, to be honest. I had a lot of friends that liked the gooey clump. But I'd never grown any of myself. God, RKS. So literally my first memory in life ever, my first memory in life, I was on a boat fishing with my uncle. I was still like in baby diaper stuff. And it was dark and the scunks were just spraying everywhere. As a kid, that's what I thought. It was not just weed.  That's all they had. The same memories I had with my dad was that and to this day, people don't understand it, but I can't like, if I smell a skunk that has sprayed an area and it's a few miles away, I equate that with weed or burning weed. I love skunk. Yeah. I like the smell of it. As a matter of fact, I had a homie send me some skunk tincture here today. And I opened it in the house and bring gagged. And I was like, she smelled good on the go. Dude, my dad had a pet skunk when he was a kid. They took the bag out.  I see another one of my friends right there. Taylor Graham. Taylor, oh God. Grow techniques, man. I think you and I have had that drying and curing. Yeah, so drying and curing. I like the first day or two. I like to get a large amount of moisture out I don't want to say quickly. God, it's so hard for me to say this because people might take it wrong and say, oh, it's going to be weird. So I leave all my leaves on. The big water leaves I take off. All bud leaves stay on everything like that. So with that, we're saying that it's holding a lot of moisture. So I get a lot of air movement in the room, but not on the plants. There's just a lot of air movement. And then I have a lot of air coming out and getting cleaned and coming in. We're constantly flipping the humidity around and out. Those first few days are really, really important because if you let it stay wet too long, you're going to lose some of that Christmas. In my opinion, you're gonna lose some of that Christmas to the terpenes. So I get a quicker, like dry at the beginning.  Then I pick it back up. So it's so weird. I don't do this classic keep it one percentage across the board.  I will raise humidity, lower humidity. So for me, like I am probably one of the worst people to learn to grow from.  Even when I'm feeding plants, like I go and check the plants and I go, okay, this is where I am. This is what I do.  Oh God, everything gets ruined. I'm sure, I mean, yeah. I now do not go any like vacations or anything while I'm growing. Unless I can fill my reservoirs and be back before they're empty and he just waters and stuff like that. But be anal about it, constantly check them. Fill your buds, put your hands on it, smell them. See where it is. You want that crispness, you know? Yeah, I like how your buds dry and how to keep some of the moisture content, but it's not like you don't get black ash or anything like that. Just enough to be sticky still. Yeah, it's clean. Yeah, he's got it down. It's some of the best ever weed I've ever smoked. Him and Pitsweed are my two tops. I appreciate that. Terps, Fernando, the Terps on Rainbow, I can't. I get asked a lot.  I can't, like I compare the Terps on the Rainbow clone, the actual Rainbow clone to a very Terpy OG with some doughy notes. Yeah, exactly.  Almost like sourdough bread with OG.  Like the other one, my favorite cut is the chocolate one. And I was Brent's favorite. That's the one she loved. And I liked it because it had more of an anti-anxiety high. Kind of like a blueberry does for me. And that is what we're giving away tonight.  That's what we're giving away.  Okay, so let's see. How are we gonna give these away? I don't have my game cards here. Usually do that when I do giveaways. You want to choose a letter, close your eyes, choose a letter from the alphabet and the first person with their name beginning with that letter wins. How about that? From the top, starting from the beginning. The first person I scroll down and see with that letter. Okay, so I'm gonna pick a letter. Yes. And then you're gonna go to the top of this whole thing. I'm going to the top of this whole chat from the people who are in here from the beginning. Okay, and then... The first person with that letter that's from the USA because it gotta ship it.   No, America. Okay, so just pick a letter and I'll figure out who wins. Okay. I'll do the hard part and get everybody to kiss me. Okay, what letter?  Of course it's gonna be S. The first S. Scroosting scarecrow. Scroosting scarecrow. And I do believe Scroosting, I want to say Scroosting's in the US. If not, if not, we have, I can't stream elements as in a person, so we'll go to the next one. If not, it's Scroosting again. And it's not... Hold on, I think people are confused that. I think people were putting letters down, guessing the letter I thought. Yeah, guys, pay attention. We're gonna have to change that because you see that it's Scroosting here. Yeah, but I can't remember. I don't remember people's addresses and where they live ever. Scroosting, are you here? You're here? Okay. He's in Houston, yep, he wins. Scroosting wins. Scroosting wins. Now let's do one more for everybody else. I'll pick out the pack of seats. Okay. Let's do a number. I'm gonna think of a number.  Sorry, I shouldn't use the R word. R word is bad. Don't use that. Is that bad? I think so. Yeah, pretty sure.  I'm trying to clean up. Yeah, Rin tells me not to use that, but for California, so everybody's a retard. I'm trying to do it. So I'm going to do a number and I'm gonna pull my phone out. I'm gonna do a number generator on here, okay? Yeah, there you go. And then between what and what? One and a hundred. Don't start guessing though until... No, let's do one and 50. Somebody might get it. I don't know because people get double numbers. Do one and 300. One and 300, okay. Random number, hold on.  So it's... No problem that I opened it up and the whole room smells like doo-doo. One and 300 generate. I have the number. Okay, so everybody only gets one guess. It's your first guess, people. So make it count. If I see a guess in two, you're out. It's one and 300, remember. One and 300. Okay, once you see it pop up, you gotta pick them. How many people are in here? I have no clue. We're gonna have to let people guess over and over then most likely. Okay, well, we'll see if it pops up. We're gonna, motherfuckers are just gonna get going. I guarantee it. I'm looking. I'm looking. Don't go too fast.  He's old.   Hold on.  It's away. I'm looking. We're in glasses and I'm still out. Who's that? Who's there? Who's knocking on my door?  Wait, I'm trying. Okay, there it is. Nope, that's uh, uh, uh. We're astute. There was one person that has the number but some of the numbers were inverted.   So look, I'm giving hints. So he says you can take multiple guesses and start taking multiple guesses.  The first person I see who has it is going to get it. We'll just do another pack of rainbow sister. If that's what you want.  I don't care. So. There you go. Where are we at? I'm looking for it. I can't tell you at who.  We keep forgetting your old fart.   Yeah, put it in private. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I think I can see private chat. Yeah, let's see it. I'm going to write it down. Don't look at the phone. Stop looking, you perverts. Don't look at my bum, you bum-lookers. Okay, okay. All right, you see it. So you can help me find that number. Let's see. Let's find, like, Leakey Lizard had the right idea.  And there's one that's real close. Do you see the one that's the chat? That's close, man.  This is, just think. One of you have the last two numbers. It's a three number. I'm wondering if you have literally one number away. Yeah, and one of you is one number away. And then one of you is guessing over 300.  I like your style. I like that you're guessing 475. Yeah, pick out of the box. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, Jesus Christ.  Right? Who was it that was super close? Let me see here. I know who was super close. I know the person who had their back numbers flipped. Oh my God, dude, there's so many now.  And I like this game that we're playing. And we'll probably get it wrong, by the way. You know the first person who won, right? So. Yeah. Okay. So you know that, oh my God, that's a really close one too.  I'm still scrolling. Yeah, that was close. We have one that is literally one number away. I know. Yeah. And we have one that is two of the numbers on the back. And Mickey Lizard posted three different numbers like a bucket.  Oh God, who's it going to be? One of you guys are going to have it on there. I'm not even close to the bottom. I haven't even made it to the bottom yet. So I'm still trying to catch up. I love it. I like that everyone is putting them like enjoying this. This has got to be great for the audio podcast version of this. They're going to be like. I know.  Like what are they doing? Yeah, you'll have to just cut this whole section out and then we'll just be like, someone sows the winner. Yeah. Someone sows the winner. But why? We can go. Oh my God. I can't remember who was only one away or I'd say we give it to them, but. Okay, we can just, I can scroll up and find it. There was no control left. Okay. Let me see who was it? Where is it? Is it highlighted? Oh, it's not showing up with the control left. Hmm. Okay. There was a person that was literally one day we had like one number away. Wait, wait. Oh, another one number away. The one over. There was one over and one under, huh? One over and one under. Yeah.  Got that. Yeah. They probably already done. They didn't get to be all pissed when we say, yeah. I know.  I really wrote the number in there. Oh my God. This is going to be the worst part. I should just say, who said this? Everybody's going to start typing it in a second. Who said this number? Because I can't find it yet. We should have did 50. You should have let me do 50 back. I shouldn't have let you do 50. You should have let me do 50. Now we're never going to see it. Now no one wins.   I see line works, genetics is all. It's 1 in 300.  I mean, I wish I could scroll up and find the person. If I could, I'd give it to the first person who has won away since no one has won. I know, I'm so far down at this point. All right, I'm going to say who guessed 296? If you're the 296 number, guess who wrote the 296. Who guessed 296? Like a long time ago. It was a long time ago.  And I can't, my control F on the chat is not working. So. I should have stuck with 1 through 50. Right?  I know. Yeah, not listening to my, then people could have won. And then flower felons all tied with the 296, 297.  Yeah, it's not going to happen. No, I think you remember what you've been typing. Exactly. Jesus Christ. I guess I want you to remember what they typed because I'm going to have to go back and find it. So what I'll do is at the end, I'll go find it. Knowledge. Okay. I will do that. We'll do that. And how are you going to know who they are? Can you message them through? Good question. Through this or can they can message you are you can? We're going to have to find who it was.  Okay. I've seen that. I also know there was two other numbers. Okay. So how do I scroll all the way? Good. I have no idea. Almighty. There's so many guesses. There's still so many guesses being said. What? My butt. I don't know. I can't hear her.  So the rainbow, I see, okay. I see a question. The rainbow sis is the chocolate one. Yes it is. Scarecrow. Yes. So, Matt's going to go back. He's going to scan through this.  You know who it... I'll type, you know what? Oh, whoever wants, I'll type it in the Patreon. And most of the people here on the British Syndicate Patreon. So if you're not, make sure you're a part of it. If you were the first one, you type 296.  Let it go. The 296 was the first person. The number was... Probably can't see it on here.    Good Lord. Make it work for it. Dude, I'm sweating now. Yeah. I have to wait till we go back and watch this. And hopefully I can see the comments so I can figure out if not, it'll be even more fun if people will be super fans. Man. Okay, but I will figure this out. Is there anything else anyone wants to... Yeah, get your questions in right now before we start wrapping up.  I'm looking at questions. So if you have any questions, Phil Denny. Matt will have seats next week. Yes. I think what I'm going to do, you guys, on this release is the films. And the reason I'm gonna do the films is I've grown hundreds of them. And I am really proud of them. They're really kicking out. A lot of really nice stuff. The Rainbow Sys made a lot of nice crosses.  Yeah.  You already won. Scarecrow's already won the first one, right? Okay, Scarecrow's already won one. The Flowering Times of the Chocolate Cherry Tie, that was what was funny is the Rev had got... That's why I questioned the cherry on the cherry tie. Yeah.   And the Rev went hard on that project. Yeah. That chocolate cherry, though, that made me go crazy legs, Rowdy. I grew it outdoors into November. And it was, I think, 18 feet tall or so.  And the barn was two stories. Jesus Christ. And I should have never smoked that marijuana. Yeah. I should have smoked that marijuana, I'll tell you. Yeah, I shouldn't have done that. But it did put me... I do have some Blue Dream crosses. I do have some TK crosses with the... They're going to be FIMS. It will be Blue Dream by Rainbow Sys. TK by Rainbow Sys. There is the SD by Rainbow Sys. There is actually the... I know this one's gonna... Actually bred so well. The London Pound Cake 75. Did that one breed pretty well?  All it did was linse the flavor. It's all in. Yeah, like a lot of lemon or... Yeah, yeah. And my favorite OG is called... I've been... I've called it the San Diego cut or the San Diego OG. That is my favorite OG. I don't really know exactly what this is. And like they said, Alex said triangle.  And I acquired both of those cuts but had been on two different paths. Like person A kept really good care of their cut in person B might not have taken as good care of his cut. And that one time that that plant had a little regression changed the plant just a little bit.  I on a deserted island, I could only have one. I don't know. I don't know, it'd be a rough.  They're like equal, they're equals. Yeah, I can't pick a few just to take up desert island. There's not too much of a flavor person and smells person. Like I'll have like 14, 15 jars when I grow that I keep and I'm all, oh, that was so good. Oh, that was so good. And I prefer to smell 14 different flowers and then go through and pick it. And then it's the whole breaking it up.   I like to be able to feel how it's breaking up. I like to be like every last bit of it. I like to try it and yeah, you don't get that from a grinder. Nope. That's what's cool about the San Diego cut. It breaks up this, you get this tiny little stem at the end and it's this sticky leaves of funk, nasty. So I was shucking some of those seeds. I wish she was in here, but she's not. I was shucking some of those seeds the other night. My friend who is in here actually, I'm not going to say who you are, but he's in here. He knows who he is. And I was shucking seeds a couple of weeks ago and I told him the story too. The wife came in pissed that one of the dogs had pissed all over the house. They had just pissed everywhere.  And then she looks at me, she goes, it's the weed. That's how pissy some of these OGs can be to people.  To me, it doesn't, like at all. But it's that. Isn't it weird? That, that, that funk.  That ammonia. So I can't find 296, but I did find 297. You found 297.  It was, I love pot.  So we're straight. I love pot also had the 279. And that was when I was all like, oh my God, somebody has it flipped. All right. The closest one right before that is 293. So 297 is dead on. You know me.  You know the routine. I don't have to tell you.  Dude, I know, I know. Dude, I'm so thank you.    Yeah. I appreciate everyone coming out and listening. I liked how I just put this up here to answer that question. And then I see the icon. I'm like, uh, oops. Oops. Yeah.  But yes, I do. Are you still in here? I love pot. If not, I know you on IG. So I will mess it up. Yeah, let me see. Is he still in here? Thanks, everybody. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bukie in the beast. OK, so yeah, there I see it. There we go. You know what to do. I love pot. You just hit me up on the IG. And I'll give you a few varieties you can pick from. Yeah, I mean, if you want rainbow Cis-S1, that's if you would take rainbow Cis-S1. Yeah, well, I'd like to have smelly on more. As long as we can wrangle each other and get a settle, we'll do it more. Yep.  I actually haven't been nervous in a long time. With you and I were first talking early, I was like, this is not a big deal. When that countdown got 28, I was all like, what are these feelings?  I was all instantly like, all right, it's go time.  Just start making words and smiling.   Dude, we didn't even scratch the surface, though. I know. Story time. I know, we have so much more to do. So much more to cover, dude. Yeah, we have a lot to.  So I'll be coming on more often. I suppose. I do have NL5 crosses as well. I don't have NL5 haze crosses. But I have haze crosses. I can say I have some NL5 haze seeds. And I have my brother's NL5. He didn't create NL5. You know what it means. Despite the way you cut. Yeah, I have the cut that he possesses and I've worked with. Before we go, here's a quick one. Did your brother create purple oracle? No. OK, thank you. That's it? Yeah, that's it. That's a question everybody wanted, I'm sure. So there you go. It's come on. Like, I can't. I love my brother hates me right now. He's yeah. He's so I want to I'm going to I'm going to say it's story. Just two minutes. OK, so when I created Rainbow and I started growing it, my brother called to me. He I never call. We never call we would text. He called me and asked me for a rainbow. He said, hey, give me rainbow. I'll work with it and we can release the seeds as a brother.  I had already worked these lines. I so deep into it. And he wanted basically the finished product and to sell it and say like, you know, a brother project. He wasn't interested in you starting your own company. I think which was the he was interested in you doing yourself for you making the money. He was interested in you giving the work to him. And I didn't.  Yeah, you were literally convinced to do it.  So I'm going to make him sell you seeds.  I'm going to like make him put it on the market.   So that is where it started. Then they came to my daughter's birthday and were mad at me for selling them through to Matt and one of the auctions that we did got a few of the auctions that we did got really high.  I was telling Matt like that's too much money. Yeah, literally, I have to send this person all of my seeds because they're spending this much. I did. I literally they won like a pack of seeds in the auction.  And then they happen like 10 times like we did like 10 auctions. I was expecting like three, four hundred dollars.  No, like it's not worth it. So, okay. So and they that really got them mad. And then one of one of you guys who are my friends sent me some screenshots of some pretty terrible stuff that was said about me. Yeah, behind my back. And so at that point, I was all like, you know what? If you don't like if you don't want to be like my brother like this is not be like brothers like yeah. And it is what it is. You know what I'm saying? Like I I have never spoke on this.  If you have any questions about me or something just come and ask me man.  He's much an open book like I am just asking. Yeah, I'm not.  It's like when people ask me about Afghani. I'm like, I don't know. Yeah.  Well, like I sucked it growing Afghani. Yeah, so but that's I wanted to give that little bit. There's so much more to it, but that's about it. Then I'll say unless somebody wants, you know, to know more or whatever. So we haven't spoken in three years. Yeah. It's been a few years. We both question the best and like I always said, like I said to you even at the beginning like me and your brother weren't necessarily cool but we were always cool.   Oh, smelly just tanked or maybe I tanked. I don't know. You guys still see in this here? Oh, you're there? You guys still hear everyone? I can't tell if it's smelly dropping out or not. Did I think there is that? Okay. Can you hear me? I can hear you. Can you hear me all right? Yeah. Okay. All right.  You said too much, man.  So yeah. So everyone, this is my boy Smellboat. He's over on Instagram at Smellboat. Easy to find and we're going to have his seeds up on the right seed stop, right seed, right seed shop, rightseeds.com. You get the feminized spray there, everything else and yeah, man. I hope you all check it out. It's that last question. Do I have beef with coffee? Copycat. I never heard of it. Where's my glasses? I can't see what that said. I never heard of it. I never heard of the girl.     So the next time I'm on, I will get into that detail.  We'll do it within, maybe within the end of maybe within a few weeks, a few weeks or a month. We'll do it. You got it, brother. I will be here. All right, you guys. Anyone have questions? Anybody? Hit them up. This is my boy. And thanks for coming and showing up. Thanks, you guys. I know it's last minute and I really appreciate you do all the time. Anytime you need me, I'm here. All right, brother. Later, guys. Take care. Thank you, everyone, for showing up. And as always, this is the Breeder Syndicate. And not so we'll be back next week. So I look forward to seeing my boy.


This one Bible verse transformed my mind and I don't want you to miss the powerful truth it reveals. Once you receive this revelation, it has the power to change the way you think. This revelation can increase your ability to overcome intrusive thoughts, lustful thoughts, and really any kind of ungodly thought. I'll read the verse to you and then I'll explain why it's so powerful. Philippians 4-8. Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, think on these things. Simple, so why is this mind transforming? Well, God would not command us to choose our thoughts if our thoughts couldn't be chosen.  No matter how it feels, no matter how many times you've tried, no matter how long you've been dealing with certain thought patterns, the Bible is clear. You can choose your thoughts. Accepting this truth is the beginning of victory.


There are many aspects to the usage of vibhuti or the sacred ash, apart from its energy significance of what it is, apart from its ability to do things to direct and control the energy body, depending upon how it's prepared and how it's used. And apart from it being a great medium to transfer energy or transmit energy, the symbolic significance of vibhuti or the basma is to indicate the mortal nature of life. One who does sadhana uses the ash that comes from the cremation grounds. The Adiyogis stocks always came from the cremation grounds and even today, many yogis only procure their ash that they need for their sadhana from the cremation grounds. One thing is it has a certain quality of its own. Another thing is it's a constant reminder of your own mortality. Always you're wearing mortality on your body. Shiva smeared his body head to toe in the ash from the cremation ground because he does not want to forget for a moment that he's mortal. For one moment if you forget that you're mortal, ignorance will sprout. If you forget for a long time it'll bear fruit. If you start thinking that you're immortal you will wear the crown of ignorance. To ignore mortality is ignorance. So you will see particularly in South India people have their forehead plastered wearing their mortality like a badge. A constant reminder that I am not here for good. A constant reminder that I am only a temporary resident of this place. One who is constantly reminded of his mortality at least has created a fertile ground for his knowing. Maybe he doesn't know yet but he has at least created a fertile ground for knowing to sprout in his life. Just putting soil back to soil very few people can do it gracefully of this billions of people on the planet. Of the billions and billions who pass through this planet, very, very few, extremely few can give back the soil that they picked up from Mother Earth gracefully. Very few. We hope you carry what you have picked up from Mother Earth. You must also carry it gracefully it's very important. You carry it gracefully when it's time to put back you put it back gracefully. Just a scoop of earth nothing more. If you have any other ideas about yourself you'll learn the hard way.   If you become a being my job it'll be a pleasure not with minds around. If you have great minds around it's good stupidly complicated minds no good. People who know how to complicate every simple situation it's lot of hard work for nothing. Mind is a fantastic gift to humanity but what a horrible thing people may have made out of it. So life and death can be handled gracefully. If you plaster this with the ash to remind this head all the time that I am mortal I am mortal I am mortal I am mortal you will see mind will uncomplicate itself. The simplest tool you know people get transformed if they believe they're going to die tomorrow.  So don't wait for your doctor to tell you something horrible every day when you take the vibhuti and smear it here here you're just reminding yourself I'm mortal I'm mortal I'm mortal I'm mortal I need to do that. If you do that your mind will become uncomplicated an uncomplicated mind is a great mind it can do phenomenal things it will not be a hurdle it will be away by itself and if you become a being a guru's job will become a wonderful thing handling simple minds which are complicated simply they believe they're complicated they're not even complicated it's just such a waste of time and life please don't expect people to die every day you must remind yourself


So, we were discussing about the various aspects of FTNMR. We discussed about the water suppression and we have discussed about the spin echo and I want to show you here how a spin echo based water suppression scheme which we discussed last time as a water gate, how it will achieve the water suppression. So, here is an experimental spectrum. We can see here, this is the normal experimental spectrum recorded in water. The sample is phenylalanine, dissolved in water, phenylalanine in water with a small concentration. This is the normal spectrum without doing anything, the top stress is the normal thing without doing anything. You can only see water, nothing else, this is water.  Then you start seeing little this tiny signals which are already present here but then of course they are not seen clearly because of the huge water signal. You adjusted the scale such a way that the water signal completely comes in the screen here, then you do not see the other signals. Now you scale this up, so if the water gets saturated here, saturated meaning actually this is cut off here and you start seeing little tiny signals here of this phenylalanine. So, this again the same spectrum as this except that it is just scaled up. Now you do an experiment with the water gate. Now you suppress the water and now you see where is the water? This is the water signal. Water signal is much less than your actual sample signals. So these are your sample signals, the phenylalanine signals and this is also all these are belonging to the phenylalanine. Now you see those ones are stronger than the water itself. So this is what is achieved by the water gate pulse sequence which I described to you last time. And this is taken from this source here, University of Ottawa NMR facility and you will find many of such works in the Google search if you do of course you will find many examples of water gate suppression and also many other pulse techniques which are there for water suppression and I have taken one simple example here to illustrate how the water gate is useful for recording good spectra. So that was just a continuation of the last slide, last topic. So now we move on to another topic which is called as dynamic NMR. In the sense that the NMR spectra are very sensitive to the dynamic effects in your system. If the molecule is undergoing conformational exchange or chemical exchange between two different conformations or multiple conformations whatever then it will show up in the NMR spectra and this is illustrated here as a by simulation I will also show the experimental spectra. So here you consider for instance a simple two site exchange, a chemical exchange, a proton exchange is between two sites A and B and these ones have different chemical shifts. So these chemical shifts are here you can see this one is these are the two chemical shifts signed in terms of the frequencies here and if the exchange is happening and now it depends upon what is the exchange rate and what is the population of these individual states. So what does the population depend upon? It depends on the energy difference between these two. Suppose they are of similar energy they may have similar populations but there can be barrier in between and the barrier will result in different exchange rates different forward rates and backward rates and the exchange rate is defined as the sum of these two rates. So suppose I want to write suppose I write here the two exchange rates here as the forward exchange I write it as K1 and the backward exchange I write it as K minus 1 then I have the exchange rate is defined as K exchange is equal to K1 plus K minus 1. So one single time constant describes the two the process of exchange and that is defined as a K exchange or this is the same as the K here which is written here this is the same as this K exchange here. This is the simulation which has been done assuming the following parameters assumed here that the populations of the two states are identical PA is equal to PB is equal to half that means that is these are the probabilities. The probabilities of meaning one the populations are the same in both cases and the tau A and tau B these are the lifetimes these are the lifetimes of the individual states. So lifetimes if both are equal so if I say tau A is equal to tau B is equal to 2 tau so that is the lifetime and the lifetime is related to the exchange rate. So the K the K1 is equal to 1 by tau A and K minus 1 is equal to 1 by tau B and now if you put tau A is equal to tau B is equal to 2 tau then we define one rate which is the K K exchange or K K exchange is the same as the K is equal to 1 by tau A plus 1 by tau B a single time constant is defined this is equal to 1 by tau. Now we can substitute here 1 by yeah so this is K minus 1 plus K so if you substitute tau A is equal to tau B is equal to 2 tau then what you will get you will get 1 by tau. So tau is the single time constant which describes the exchange phenomena how the spectra will change as a result of this exchange happening of course how does one change the exchange rate you can change the exchange rate by changing the conditions like you can change the temperature you can change the viscosity by adding different things and so on so forth. And then it also depends upon the relaxation times of the individual states how much is the relaxation time of the spin in the two sides. So here are the two relaxation times here but those become individually assumed here that they are infinitely long that in the sense that the 1 by tau A is equal to 1 by tau B is equal to 0 that means they are extremely slowly relaxing therefore we do not include here the effect of this relaxation but we include here the changes that are happening as a result of the exchange process only. So that is why to show the effect of the exchange we are doing the stimulations here. So you see when the exchange is very very slow k is equal to 10 hertz you see two clear lines see you see two clear lines here and use and of course the intensities are also high and increase it to 100 hertz the lines have broadened and therefore the intensity has come down okay the height has come down increase it further you give even less then you reach a state when it is like almost you are not able to distinguish between these two and you start getting a broad line very broad line this is known as coalescence. The two lines tend to merge the two lines tend to merge when that happens the tau is equal to tau is equal to or tau into omega A minus omega B is equal to 1.414 when this condition is satisfied then you will see coalescence you will start getting a single line. Now what happens after that if the exchange rate increase is further then the lines start narrowing narrowing further okay now we start becoming sharper and sharper okay and where it will appear this line will appear at the average of the weighted average of the two individual chemical shifts okay the final position the final position what you will observe in this situation will be omega observed will be P A or P A omega A plus P B omega B where P A and P B are the populations okay so omega A and omega B are the individual frequencies and this average will appear at the weighted average position when the exchange rate is far, far larger than the separation between those two and what is the meaning of fast this is called as fast exchange. Fast exchange meaning K is much, much larger than omega A minus omega B and this one is a slow exchange here this is slow exchange here K is much less than omega A minus omega B this is called as slow exchange okay so therefore you can see by monitoring this changes in the spectra as a function of some temperature or something like that or whatever you can actually try and measure the exchange you can study the dynamics of molecules inside your in the system and by simple examination at this point you can actually find out what should be the exchange rate of course you should know the omega A and omega B omega omega B these will present only when there is a slow exchange when you do it as a function of temperature at very low temperature you will see these two separate lines you take them as omega A and omega B okay and then you substitute that here then at the coalescence temperature or coalescence condition you can find out what is tau and once you know what is tau can calculate what is the exchange rate okay so let me show you an experimental spectrum of this here is a molecule so this is what we are seeing here are the two lines of these two methyl NCH3 CH3 these are the two methyl groups which have separate positions okay these are two separate lines and this is the spectrum recorded at 223 degree Kelvin and of this molecule in some solvent okay this is taken from this resource here okay so that is annual reports and annual spectroscopy so these two methyl groups are non-equivalent because the double bond character in this NC bond here therefore there is no free rotation around this bond therefore these two methyl groups are non-equivalent and then you will see two separate lines now as you start increasing the temperature there will be free rotation around this bond the rotation around this bond happens okay so when there is a rotation around this bond okay so therefore the exchange is happening the lines will start getting seeing the exchange between these two lines the lines start getting broadening broadened here and then at some intermediate value you see the lines have become so broad that is almost they are overlapping they are there is a small dip here that the depth of this one is decreasing and you get a coalescence condition here at 263 degree Kelvin see there is only one line the broad line here you see this is the coalescence condition and at this happens at 200 so now from here you can estimate what is the exchange rate and because you know this omega a and omega b here of these two positions and then you know you can therefore you can calculate here what is the exchange rate you can calculate tau and you can calculate the exchange rate and this happens at 263 degree Kelvin and if you increase the temperature further this will start narrowing down again and you will see this peak at an average position notice here that this is not quite in the middle of this line this is not here this is not quite in the middle so it is slightly shifted on to this side this is because the two populations of these are not necessarily the same they can be slightly different as a consequence of that you will see a line which is slightly at one side or rather okay this is an experimental spectrum and I will show you another experimental spectrum and this is of a molecule which is undergoing equilibrium like this so here you have a molecule so and we are talking about these two protons here so these two protons this is a bridge here and the bridge there are these two protons which are there and then you see this undergoes conformational equilibrium the trotomerism here between these two positions okay these two conformations okay so and therefore you see the signals which are presented this is the signal at slow time scale and you see the separately these signals here okay all of them are separately seen and you start increasing the temperature to minus 138 degree centigrade here okay you see this is extremely at a very very low temperature okay and as you start increasing the temperature exchange rate starts increasing and you see here at this point at this point this is become broad and this is sort of vanished here and then actually it is started appearing again the broadening has happened already here okay this is already broadened here this is the coalescence has already happened here and this happens differently for different groups you see it is not the same for this group and for this group it is different for the different groups therefore the exchange positions in the groups itself there can be different rates in the given molecule as because barriers can be different for the different rotations and therefore for this group you have a coalescence temperature at one point for this group there is a coalescence temperature at another point okay so therefore you can measure these exchange rates for the two things at different so at this point here this is the final thing at K is equal to infinity these extremely fast motions then you start seeing only these two lines here right this happens at minus 65 degree centigrade and you measure the exchange rate as 5880 seconds inverse okay so this provides a useful technique to measure the exchange rates and will also show you how you can use this phenomena to understand dynamics in proteins because in proteins there are all kinds of dynamics present there are the conformational exchanges domain motions and these are microsecond time scale motions the millisecond time scale motions nanosecond time scale motions so in proteins you have all kinds of motions on these various kinds of motions will show up in your NMR spectra how to extract that that is an important point there are other methods this is the very simple method of obtaining the information from looking at the one dimensional spectra but when you go into the proteins this spectra may not be so well resolved you may have to do other techniques and then of course the principles remain the same of course you are the slow exchange intermediate exchange fast exchange so the appearance in the spectra will change and you can use those data to estimate the conformational dynamics in proteins okay now there can be other effect of the exchange phenomena so there is let us say there are two conformations of a particular molecule suppose I have a molecule which is in conformation A and these exchanges with a another conformation B and here I have one coupling constant there is a particular proton pair let us say I have a coupling constant here and this is another coupling constant here J2 and I represent here the two spectra like this so I will have a line splitting here and I will have a line splitting here and this is J1 and this is J2 okay separation between these two and that is what is shown in this here so for the A side so I will have two lines here I will have two lines because of the splitting the separation between them is the coupling constant for the B side again I will have two lines and the separation between them is the coupling constant okay so now if there is a exchange here the coupling constant also will get averaged out the coupling constant will get averaged out and then you will get a J average J average is equal to PA J1 plus PB J2 okay and that shows up that is what you will see in the bottom spectrum here this is the bottom spectrum see where does it appear you see it is neither here nor it is in between if you draw a vertical line from there to here down so this line is lying in between this position and this position it is somewhere in the average position between these two lines and similarly this is also present at the average position between these two lines okay so therefore what you will measure is this coupling constant you will measure this coupling constant because of the conformational averaging so when this happens if you try to interpret this coupling constant in terms of the structure as one one common leaders because the coupling constants are related to dihedral angles in molecules so you have suppose I have a situation like this a three bond coupling so there is a J here then I measure here the J then I try to interpret the torsion angle this as a consequence we use the car plus relationship and things like that now you should be careful that if there is a conformational averaging what you will directly interpret may be wrong because of the average coupling constant will give you a certain value here fine but that may not be the actual structural value it be the it is the result of an averaging between these two positions therefore you must look at the stable conditions change the temperature change the conditions and find out the individual coupling constants there and then you will be able to figure out from this what are the populations of the individual individual conformations this is an important application also in structural biology this typically happens in proteins there are rapid rotations in the phi psi torsion angles in proteins this we will see as we go along okay that is the I am preparing the ground for understanding the phenomena in proteins and nucleic acids which will be your focus in the area of structural biology okay so now so this is the so far as the dynamism in the in the spectra and now we move on to another important concept in in NMR and that is the so called polarization transfer or NOE or polarization transfer is a very general term polarization transfer meaning that we transfer magnetization from one spin to another spin that means we transfer magnetization from one spin to another and this is an extremely useful structural tool or it can also be an assignment tool among these there is one important thing which is called as NOE this is nuclear overhouser effect okay now what is what is NOE new overhouser is the name of the person who invented it and of course there was initially it was the electron nuclear overhouser effect and subsequently this is the overhouser this is the nuclear nuclear overhouser effect that has become extremely useful for structure determination in proteins I will tell you what this means this is application I am just writing straight away structure determination in macromolecules okay so what is NOE let us say I have a spectrum so there are so many lines there okay when there are so many lines they of course have different chemical environments and therefore you have different lines now what I do is I do a perturbation here perturb this line what is the meaning of perturbation either I can do a saturation there apply a RF another RF which is exactly on line of that one and what is the consequence of this perturbation so you have a molecule something like that let us say we have a proton here and a proton there and a proton here a proton there so and so forth and this line let us say belongs to let us say this call this line as A let us this line be A and there are various other ones B, C, D and so on so many protons are there they are all giving you signals at various places now if you perturb this proton A will the perturbation remain there will it always remain there or it does it go to somewhere else can it transfer this perturbation to some other proton so if it has to transfer the perturbation there has to be an interaction between them if there is an interaction between them this can put it is like you know pack of cards so you have cards put one behind the other you perturb one fellow in the front and then all other fellows will fall down so it is a relay so the relay can happen see if a perturb this proton perturb it can relay its perturbation to another one so it can relay it here it can relay it here and so on so forth relay the perturbation and for this what is required there has to be coupling for this there is in coupling and that is the dipolar coupling and these are magnetic dipoles all the protons are magnetic dipoles therefore there is a magnetic dipolar coupling so if you perturb one of those so what it means when I perturb as I said suppose I have the energy levels for the spin A and these are the populations here so let us say I have this N1 here and N2 there when I perturb it meaning I change its populations so I have it here like this okay there was something like this so when I perturb it here then I may make it both of them equal I can make them equal or this is one perturbation or I can also do I can make it this one here and this one down there this is the number one number two so both kinds of perturbations are possible so essentially what we are doing is both are contributing to changes in the populations changed in the populations of the states okay so that is like a relaxation phenomena after you change the populations the system will have to recover okay and the system will have to recover how does it recover it has to give away its perturbation to somebody else okay so the perturbed populations have to recover and this happens by spin lattice relaxation so because of the spin lattice relaxation there is a relay of the perturbation from one spin to another spin and then it will show up in the intensity of this of this proton okay so let us say as a result of this I get a new spectrum whenever so what I do is I do two spectra so I do two spectra I have the same lines here this is the unperturbed spectrum well unperturbed is so for this I do a perturbation somewhere far away this is called the off resonance perturbation there is no line there I put a perturbation somewhere there so this is just as a control of resonance perturbation so I get a spectrum like this okay so this happens as a control just to see that the RF irradiation which I am doing and this is by RF irradiation and then I do another spectrum where I do the same thing and I have perturbed this this line this is perturbed okay so what do we do now this is the perturbed spectrum okay so this is x-ray let us say I call this as experiment number one this is experiment number two then what I do is I take one minus two different spectrum I take a difference so what do I get when I perturb this I will transfer the perturbation to those protons which are dipolarly coupled those which are not coupled they will not be perturbed at all there will be no difference in that so then what I will when I do this I will get a spectrum which may be like this there is a line here there is a line there and all others are gone to zero and here I will get something which is negative because you have perturbed this is made it zero here or saturated made it zero then I take this minus this or this minus this so I get a negative one here I have written one minus two but it could be two minus one also it does not matter so you have here a some change happening in this particular line some change happening in this particular line because these are the ones which are dipolarly coupled okay to the perturbed line so these are the enhancements or there can be decrease also and depending upon that we will have some perturbations in these areas okay so these are the so these are the relate and this effect is known as NOE okay and we can quantitatively define this as NOE is defined as n i let us say s is equal to i i minus i naught divided by i naught and what is i i i i is the perturbed intensity of spin i due to do the perturbation at spin s at spin s and i naught is the equilibrium intensity of spin i in the control that means in the absence of perturbation at spin s okay so when you do this you will measure this n i s and you say this will be this will be dependent on on various factors various factors the important thing being the gammas the gammas of the individual residues and the relaxation times the t ones relaxation times and the dipolar coupling dipolar coupling means distance because the dipolar coupling is proportional to inverse cube of the distance of course the NOE is proportional to inverse a sixth power of the distance so this here it is inverse sixth power of the distance distance between what and what between i and s these are the two spins which are considering we are saturating or perturbing the spin s and monitoring spin i okay and what I have here this is the i i minus i naught and these both refer to the spin i because the spin s we are not looking at we are looking at the spin i we are perturbed the spin s we are looking at the spin i so i i minus i naught divided by i naught so this is the with respect to the unperturbed intensity what is the change in the intensity that we are measuring so the effect of that is what is useful in a quantitative estimations of distances which in turn is a structural parameter okay so we can we can stop here