What's good George Bo Ross back again with another video summary and check out 10 things you didn't know about WWE payback Payback is this coming Saturday as I'm filming this right now. I'm gonna be honest with you For the first time and quite some time. I'm not as Excited for WWE pay-per-view as I usually am This one is I don't know. It's just kind of middle of the road for me. There are some matches I'm looking forward to but I'm not excited for the overall pay-per-view as I have been for the other pay-per-views WWE has put on for the past. I want to say almost year year and a half now So we got to check this out since you know pay payback is right around the corner I will be doing my preview and predictions on who's gonna win and how things may play out, but Ultimately payback has always been kind of a B level Sometimes a C level pay-per-view in a sense It's never really just in my opinion been one of those must see pay-per-views But we'll see what happens this Saturday right now get right into this one man Appreciate all the love and support you guys have shown on the channel man, and let's get right into this thing As WWE gets set to run its first payback event for three years These six paybacks so far have got some cracking secrets and revelations hidden within them such as why payback was initially canceled The real story behind the house of horrors and why exactly payback is for God that payback hasn't been around in quite some time so That's I forgot all about that actually then he just reminded me damn cuz we haven't had a payback in a minute So he tied to a certain feed me a more fella with that in mind Imagine what coach you're wrestling and here are ten things you didn't know about WWE payback number ten the reason for paybacks initial Cancellation yes payback was reintroduced in 2020 But why was the event removed from the WWE calendar in the first place the answer? Obviously, that's when Roman Reigns won the Universal Championship after coming back in We had this long three-year reign That's crazy for three years it comes down to the ever-fluid topic of WWE's Brands split running as a regular pay-per-view from 2013 until 2016 2017 saw payback become a raw exclusive event Of course the superstar shake-up meant that this raw event did feature SmackDown talent But hey, that's forever the case when something involves WWE and a brand split the 2018 payback was intended to be a Smackdown only pay-per-view until a change of strategy saw those plans Scuppered that change of strategy was to move away from brand exclusive pay-per-views Which in turn meant less pay-per-views were needed by WWE payback was one of the events to get the axe number nine payback 2014 Well, they brought it back. So hopefully this could be one of the better ones Maybe one of the best paybacks we've ever had who knows we're gonna see this Saturday Broke a near eight-year streak payback 2014 has the accolade of being the first WWE pay-per-view To not feature a men's world title match for nearly eight years Payback the last time the top prize or prizes of the men's division wasn't defended on pay-per-view was back at Armageddon 2006 where WWE champion John Cena teamed with World Heavyweight Champion Batista to take on King Bucke and fit Finley in a match where neither world title run the line for the next seven and a half years at least one of the company's men's world titles Would be defended whenever each pay-per-view rolled around that was of course until payback 2014 brought a halt to that streak The trinket that Daniel Bryan would defeat Randy Orton and Batista for at WrestleMania 13 Unfortunately, Brian was out of action due to neck issues by the time of payback 2014 which is why the WWE World Heavyweight title wasn't defended at that event Sadly the bride would be Katie's goal just eight days after a payback, which was headlined by the shield versus evolution And that was good. I will say that there has been some good matches on payback I'm not gonna sit up here and make it seem like paybacks always had you know It's you know had some trash matches or it wasn't worth the time eight Keith Lee's only singles WWE PLE win Approval from both Roman Reigns and brought Lesnar joins initial appearances on the main roster Big things appeared to be in the future for Tita raw after SummerSlam 2020 sadly a mixture of Vince McMahon and some extremely serious health issues with big Keith Many spell on the main roster was a forgettable one discounting his time in NXT payback 2020 was as good as it got for limitlesses As that payback saw Lee score his one and only singles win on a WWE premium live event Which came over 14 time world champion Randy Orton? Yes, yeah, I was winning team at the Survivor Series at November But payback stands as the former NXT champion soul one-on-one PLE win from his time on the main roster Considering how many expected to see Keith Lee as a major player Yeah I was hoping so too for years to come it's somewhat remarkable to reflect back on the role that payback now has in Keith Lee's history number seven Mr. Payback sure Michaels is of course known as Mr. WrestleMania and Bret Hart Brock Lesnar and Edge are just some of those in the Conversation when looking for a Mr. SummerSlam if there were to be a Mr. Payback though that man would be Seth Rollins Roman Reigns has the most appearances at payback competing six times But Rollins has a better record where this event is concerned of Roman's six outings He currently stands at four for two for Seth Rollins He and Reigns rotated the WWE tag team titles against Daniel Bryan and Randy Orton in 2013 The shield as a full trio defeated evolution in the main event of payback 14 the architect would successfully defend this world heavyweight title against Orton Reigns and Dean Ambrose in 2015 there was a Rollins win over Samoa Joe in 2017 and Seth's only loss at payback came in 2020 when he and Buddy Murphy were beaten by the Mysterios Mrs. Payback, that sadly really isn't one as the only female to compete more than once is Bailey and she's lost both of her payback matches That's crazy.  Seth Rollins only lost one time at payback. So He's supposed to have a match with Shinsuke Nakamura for the world heavyweight championship Will he be five and one? I'll get my thoughts and opinions on that on my preview and prediction video It's Randy Orton's awful payback record Oh, it's tied for second place with Rollins when it comes to the most appearances at payback But the Viper remains winless in all Matches as mentioned payback 2020 saw Randall Keith lose to Keith Lee prior to that 2017 Was a loss to Bray Wyatt in the House of Horrors 2016 had Randy Orton come up short in a four-way match for Seth Rollins's world heavyweight title 2014 had Randy part of that evolution that lost to the shield and 2013 had Orton unsuccessfully teamed with Daniel Bryan against the Shields Seth Rollins and Roman Reigns. Yeah payback's not great for Randy Yes, not at all, barely. Less than one hour of women's wrestling. Of these six paybacks so far The women's matches of these events total a less than one hour. To be specific, W3's ladies have wrestled for 57 minutes and 21 seconds cumulatively in the history of payback. AJ Lee defeating Caitlyn for the Divas title at payback 2013 Paige retaining that same title against Alicia Fox in 2014 and Naomi and Tamina beating the Bella twins in 2015 all of those matches clocking at under 10 minutes Alexa Bliss defending the Raw women's title against Bailey in 2017 and Shayna Baszler and Nia Jax beating Bailey and Sasha Banks for the women's tag titles in 2020 those matches would just nudge over that 10 minute mark and the longest women's match in payback history happened in 2016 that 2016 event saw WWE women's champion Charlotte Flair take on Natalya in about which ran for 13 minutes and Four seconds a for those wondering the shortest payback women's match was that Paige and Alicia Fox match with the anti-diva Tapping out foxy after just six minutes and 37 seconds less than one hour across six events That's pretty darn horrendous. Yeah, that's kind of that. Let's That let you know let you know how they How they used to view the women's division To be honest with you, they they still kind of like if he on it they It it could be so much better It can be so much better. It's not that is is what it used to be because they used to not really care about the women at all but in this case, it's like It's like that it's I can't even really describe it's like outside of the main few stars everyone else kind of just Don't really, you know matter to to the to it seems like to the To management, so I mean they are in a better situation You know, but at the same time the women's division could be so much more better. So that's crazy out of all these paybacks The time of wrestling is still under an hour. That's Insanity before the right back connection Line from Randy Savage right back very much had a cup of coffee in the big time. Oh, yeah Dreadful impression. I know But the former skips sheffield Returned from injury in April 2012 with his new right back mantle the powerhouse went on a tear through the roster Well, I saw right back come up short against then WWE champion CMP was definitely over post wrestling in 29 Put the big guy up against John Cena who by that point was once again WWE champ at the first ever payback in 2013 Right back was a major player main event to the case Cena for the WWE title in a three stages of hell match Headline in the pay-per-view against the biggest star in the modern era It doesn't get much bigger than that skip ahead just three years and payback would again be noteworthy for right back But this time for being his final appearance with WWE losing to Kalisto on the events pre-show Right back at his pre-show stopper drunk soon departed the WWE due to a pay dispute from the payback main event to the payback It's quite a journey. Yeah, that is kind of crazy You go from the main event to pre-show status and then you out the company as kind of wow Just three years number three the hitman's last ever sharp shooter payback 2016 has the honor of playing host to Bret Hart's final ever sharp shooter despite being forced to retire in 2000 there were still occasional moments where Brett got physical such as put the shot here on Damien Sandow on a 2014 episode of WWE main event as it stands though the final ever sharp shooter the Bret Hart's career belongs to payback 2016 where the WWE Hall of Famer was in the corner of his niece Natalia I actually challenged Charlotte Flair for the WWE women's title with Flair having her father in a corner The excellence of execution was there to neutralize the nature boy Natalia would get screwed on that night But at least post-match she Simultaneous sharp shooters and what a sight it was One of those little factoids. That's crazy. His last ever performed sharp shooter in WWE. Was that WWE at a WWE event payback? So for those who was able to see that, you know, you got that memory if you remember it The final WWE match for Cody Rhodes at that 2014 event Cody and Goldust came up short against Ryback and Curtis Axel left rock by this loss Cody followed the Owen Hart mantra of enough is enough and it's time for a change only that change initially involved Cody put in Sinkara and then our truth with Goldust with those partnerships not working out Cody then debuted his face painted bodysuit Wearing eccentric persona of Stardust. We've had the legacy Cody. We've had dashing and undashing versions of Cody We've had the Rhodes scholars Cody and payback 2014 It's seen the final match for the Cody Rhodes name The promotion was obviously extremely eager to welcome back to the fold as Cody Rhodes upon the American nightmares returned to WWE last year number one the Line to you once they changed him. I wasn't a big fan of I get it They were kind of following the footsteps of his brother with the whole, you know, you know Stardust Goldust, you know situation I get it But at the same time I it was just one and he made the best of it as much as he possibly could But it just for me as a fan I wasn't a big fan of the character change or what not and ultimately after that he ended up leaving WWE and now He's back and he's one of the biggest stars in the company one of the biggest baby faces in the company So, you know things happen for a reason they were supposed to happen that way and it's all come full circle Truth behind the House of Horrors Oh boy 2017 took place from San Jose, California's SAP Center one match started away from that arena Yes, that would be the House of Horrors match between the late Bray Wyatt and Randy Orton at the time This House of Horrors was depicted based on the time It took the competitors to return to the arena as being approximately a 30 minute drive from the SAP Center in reality The drive from the payback venue to Wyatt's creepy old house would have been closer to 30 hours Probably 30 minutes as picked up at the time by Sports Illustrated The House of Horrors itself was located at 39115 Business 10 Highway Richmond, Missouri Not just that but the property was also listed for sale at the time of payback 2017 How the hell did someone find this information this fucking insane to me With a house available for the fairly modest sum of $36,000 Sure, the house and its outbuildings needed a bit of work But $36,000 seems like a steal for someone wanting to make memories in the one and the same place Where Randy Orton had the refrigerator dropped on him So, that's our 10 things you didn't know about WWE Payback Be sure to like, subscribe, comment, share, turn on the notification bells on and come and give me a follow On Twitter or X at whatcodeshw- Someone found the actual house and it's on sale for like $36,000 or whatever And someone buys that house and you're like, yeah, this was the match for Randy Orton got a refrigerator thrown on him You know, memories in once again, recipes break Wyatt Like I said, for me, payback has never been a pay review I just outwardly wanted to watch But there always would be at least a match or two that I'm interested in and want to check out And hopefully, that's, you know, that changes this Saturday Hopefully, I mean, Randy, I'm not really just like super excited for payback But at the same time, once again, there are some matches I'm looking forward to seeing And I want to see, you know, what they're able to come up with and how things will play out So I'm interested in some of the matches and hopefully the show can entertain me enough Well, I can be like, yo, this is one of the best paybacks WWE's ever produced They've been doing some good work, they have been on a roll still in my opinion Can they actually do this with this B-level type of pay-per-view? We will find out this Saturday Comment down below, let me know what's your favorite match from any of these paybacks For me, obviously, gotta be the shield and evolution That was Chef's Kids Fantastic But let me know your favorite match from WWE paybacks of past In the past, you know, whatever they were Let me know which match was your favorite year It was which payback year it was I appreciate all of them sport, road 250K and I'm still here in speedy You just the rest of the tour, appreciate your time, I'll see you in the next one, peace


I'm still on a roll with fresh cherry tomatoes. They're so good this season. And it made me think of a dish I just had to share with you. On evenings when I'm really feeling lazy, I don't want to spend a lot of time or a lot of effort preparing a meal. This is my go-to when cherry tomatoes are fresh and in season. So I've already got my ingredients ready. A jar of pesto that I picked up at the store. I cut some cherry tomatoes in half. I've drained some chickpeas. I have an avocado cut in half, and I've got a lemon ready to squeeze. Then I also have a package of gnocchi, little potato dumplings that you can buy in the store. They're usually right on the shelf with the pasta. I boiled some water, added these little gnocchi, and they cook in just two to three minutes. They rise to the top. They're little potato dumplings, and they're so soft and delicious. Quick meal. Here we go. I'm going to put about two to three tablespoons of my pesto into my bowl, and you can use your own homemade pesto too. That's probably even better. Then I'm going to scoop one nice ripe avocado into the bowl along with the pesto, and then I'm just going to kind of smush it all together to get that avocado mixed in a little bit. And then I'm going to put a little squirt of fresh lemon juice in there. You know that lemon flavor always brightens all the other flavors right up. It gives it a nice little fresh taste. Stir that in, and then I'm ready to add my gnocchi. There we go. Now, once I've added that, I'm going to toss it all together very gently because you don't want your little dumplings to lose their pretty little shape.  Toss that up. And then I like to add lots of black pepper right at the end. And there you go. There's your meal. How easy is that? If you want to, you can add some roasted vegetables. Those are a good addition. And use whatever vegetables you have in your refrigerator, but this is so easy, and so quick, and so delicious when you can get fresh cherry tomatoes. I'm Sue Dodin sharing Good Food for Good Life 365.


Think Tech Away. Civil engagement lives here. Hello, ha. Welcome to Condo Insider. We're on every Thursday from 3 to 3.30 talking about matters related to association living. Tomorrow's an important day, March 2nd. It is the first decking at our legislature that means that on any particular side of the legislature, the House of the Senate, bills that are going to remain alive have to be all through all of the committees that have been assigned to them. And as I told you last year in 2017, we had 157 bills introduced affecting condominiums. Because it's an election year and a money year, we only had 30 bills introduced this year. But I can tell you as a first decking tomorrow, there are only three left. So we'll see where they go and we'll do some shows about those in the future. But for me, who's a lobbyist, I can tell you that it's a much easier year than typical. But we do have some very interesting matters before the legislature in association living. Speaking of the legislature, one of the issues has always been education, education, education. What can we do with an industry to let our board members and our owners know about solutions and things that are available to them that they can go through to help run their associations better? So I ask a very good friend of mine, Ken Cantor, who's the executive director for the Douglas Trade Shows, who does the Property Management Expo every year in the Blaisdell. And the show happens to be next week. They come down and talk about opportunities for all of you volunteers and all of you homeowners to find out great creative education and solutions that are before you. So Ken, welcome to the show. Thank you, Richard. Great to be here. I always ask our guests to take a minute and just tell us about your background. I know you have some background in the theater, so I don't know how that relates to our expos, but... Well, there is a connection. I mean, trade shows are show business. And I got started in the theater business in New York, and the management side ended up here. I ran the Manoa Valley Theater for four years. And one thing led to the next, and I've been doing trade shows for 24 years now. Wow. So how long has Douglas Trade Shows been around? I've heard the name a long time. Douglas Trade Shows started in the early 80s. I think we pegged 1981 as the actual beginning, and it does six shows. I do two shows for them, one for the condo and buildings management industry, another one for hotels and restaurants. And then they do four others for gift jewelry and apparel industries. Is there a Douglas? Doug Williams, Doug was my partner for 24 years and was my mentor. He passed away two years ago, but he started the company. He created the shows, and he was my backer when I started out in the industry. And when you have one of these shows, you hold this, it's called... The first name is the Property Management Expo. The full name, and it's a long name, but it works. It's Hawaii Buildings Facilities and Property Management Expo, and this is the 11th year. And what is the objective of that show? Who is your audience? Well, the audience, hopefully, and it's worked out pretty well, are individuals who have the responsibility for maintaining and operating existing buildings and structures. From the university and the airport to high-rise condos to shopping centers, we're not trying to reach the developers or those that are planning to build. We're talking about the existing infrastructure. So if you have a major building and you're concerned about maintaining it and issues maybe regarding governance like the condominium, then this would be kind of your audience. Absolutely. For example, we have five companies exhibiting out of 245 that focus on all of the mechanical issues related to elevators. And the interesting thing is you have a legislature that passes various kinds of statutes and legislation that change the requirements and the rules and policies regarding how elevators run. So it's a constant changeover, and that's where the education comes in. And so I know, wild guess, but about how many people go through this show? Over the two days, it's a two-day show, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m., and it'll be this coming Wednesday, March 7th, and Thursday, March 8th. And it's free. We get about 3,400 people from all facets of the existing buildings' management and maintenance industry. And I know the answer, but where is it located at? Blaisdale Center Exhibition Hall. And parking? Parking is $6 per day. Goes to the Blaisdale. Plenty of parking. And we start our seminars. We do 26 seminars. They begin at 8 a.m. in the morning, and then the exhibit's open at 9 a.m. each day. And what type of boost do you have? What kind of participants do you have on the show? I know you mentioned elevators. If you can imagine a need of any kind of building, we probably have someone exhibiting to address it. But everything from contractors who do painting, concrete repair, renovations, remodeling of buildings, the elevator contractors, pest control, fire alarms, the technology that goes into energy management, sub-renewing, billing, every aspect of security, of maintenance, of new technology coming on the market. We have an exhibitor this year that's just joined us called SubletAlert.com. They have a website, and they track the potential of rental units being subleased by renters to other renters as vacation rentals. Some of that does violate condo laws and violate marketing laws and state statutes. And then we have exhibitors that provide information on how to use the Educational Services Community Association Institute, BOMA, Building Owners and Managers Association, IROM Institute of Real Estate Management, CCIM. They are all what we refer to as our association co-sponsors, and they represent all the aspects of the property management industry. Well, most expo's have sponsors, so, I mean, let's give them credit for what they're doing because it is a great educational tool. Who are the sponsors?  I can understand that. We have 10 sponsors each year. We have GP Roadway Solutions, which has safety products. They have a subdivision Peterson sign that does all kinds of sign work. Embassy carpets, upscaled carpets for hotels and for commercial buildings, for condominium buildings, the common areas of a building. Hawaii and Telcom is one of our sponsors. They're focusing on the issues of switching over to fiber optics in the buildings, which are more efficient, at least from their point of view, more efficient for condominium buildings to distribute cable services. Hawaii Unified, which is maintenance and all types of services in maintaining and contractor services for buildings from electrical contracting to painting. We have a company, a new sponsor this year, called CookStop, and they have a product that allows kitchen fires or kitchen stoves not to catch fire by monitoring when they're not being maintained by someone in the room. So if a stove is left unattended, it will shut down. And that's one of the biggest problems in fires in high-rise buildings is unattended kitchen cooking. We have American Electric, major electrical contractor here in Hawaii. We have Ohana control systems that specializes in parking lots and parking control equipment, as well as security systems and surveillance equipment. We have Alana Buick and Burrs, which is an engineering company. It's just buildings in every aspect of remodeling and renovation. Premium Incorporated, which is cleaning and chemical products and cleaning equipment. And not the least of which is Associate Hawaii, a company that you're very familiar with. Associate has been supporting us now for about seven years. And as some people know, they're a managing agent that you help manage homeowner and condo associations. And I'm affiliated with them. And I know we're very proud to be a sponsor. But even though you listed your 10 sponsors or so, about how many exhibitors are there in this space? There are 300 booth spaces, each roughly 10 feet by 10 feet, that are occupied by 245 companies, some of them by multiple space. But many of the companies also represent other companies. They're distributors or manufacturers or they're parts of conglomerates. So probably on the trade fore show this year, you can actually connect with about 500 companies doing all kinds of services. I think it's interesting. I think I was mentioning to you before the show, I was working with a client on a reserve study. And I was at a big 500 unit condominium association. And I started going through the reserve, which is obviously generators, elevator rooms, electrical rooms. You go on and on, and the number of components, when you start looking at one of these larger buildings, it's a huge business. It's a huge task and responsibility. And what I've experienced from your show is I walk around something that may not be foremost in my mind. It triggers some thought while I'm there that I should take a look at this and get some more information. Well, a trade show itself provides that. Because exhibitors are there not to just tell you what they do and try to sell the products or services they have, but they're also looking for feedback from the marketplace as to what's needed. So there is an exchange process going on. But when we started the show, we didn't have a real handle on exactly what the show was going to be. We knew we wanted to focus on existing structures. What we found out is probably the maintenance of all the different types of buildings and facilities and structures in Hawaii is probably a larger industry than any other industry. It's just not identified as an industry in any traditional way. We have tourism, we have construction, but the maintenance and operation of the existing infrastructure is huge. And you see, I hate to say it, but you see representatives of government coming down to the city and the county and the state because the state's got a huge infrastructure issues. We invite everyone at the city, state, and federal level in Hawaii who has any responsibility for maintaining facilities or addressing issues and statutes. And we get them, it's difficult at the legislative level because we're in March and everything's going on, but we do get representatives from government and we get representatives from the bureaucracy that have responsibility from building maintenance for the roads, for the electrical system. Hawaiian Electric is one of our exhibitors. They've been with us quite a while and says Hawaii and Tel is a utility. So everything is for the continued operation of our broad infrastructure. Now, from my experience, one thing I like about this show is that when you're looking at a particular, should I say windows, you get to talk to three or four vendors about the problem. So you're not getting a single marketing presentation. You're getting to see different people's take on a particular issue and how they might recommend you solve it without any pressure of a sales and making a deal. You get a chance to get a lot of education without much pressure being put on you. Well, you also get a more focused exchange because people who are in the exhibits are there to talk to the individuals who have responsibilities for maintaining buildings and facilities of all kinds, not necessarily just single family homeowners. So it's a more detailed, more intense discussion and they're going to be as interested in hearing from the attendees about what their needs are as the attendees are trying to get information out of them. It's like they want to go to the show. He says it's free. Can they go on both days, by the way? Can they go both days? Are they limited to one day? No, the show opens the seminars again. We have 26 seminars. They start at 8 a.m. in the morning, run all day. They're free. We do have a few meal functions where there is a charge to attend, but they're also excellent educational sessions. At 9 a.m. each morning on Wednesday and Thursday next week, we open the exhibit hall and it's open until 4 p.m. And it's open to anyone interested in coming, anyone who has a responsibility for a building such as a condo board or maintenance people or resident managers or the engineers and the maintenance people, which we feel are the ones on the front line of keeping the buildings going. And it's free. You can get a badge when you arrive. And we also give away six trips for two to Las Vegas and a number of free trips to the neighbor islands. So there's a lot of activity going on, a lot of excitement. And some people spend the whole day there. Well, I want to ask you some more questions about that, but we're going to take a short break for a minute. And we'll be right back with Condom Insider talking about Hawaii's largest property management expo. Good afternoon. My name is Howard Wigg. I am the proud host of Code Green, a program on Think Tech Hawaii. We show at 3 o'clock in the afternoon every other Monday. My guests are specialists both from here and the mainland on energy efficiency, which means you do more for less electricity and you're generally safer and more comfortable while you're keeping dollars in your pocket. Hey, aloha, Stan Energyman here on Think Tech Hawaii where community matters. This is the place to come to think about all things energy. We talk about energy for the grid, energy for vehicles, energy and transportation, energy and maritime, energy and aviation. We have all kinds of things on our show, but we always focus on hydrogen here in Hawaii because it's my favorite thing. That's what I like to do. So we talk about things that make a difference here in Hawaii, things that should be a big changer for Hawaii. And we hope that you'll join us every Friday at noon on Stan Energyman and take a look with us at new technologies and new thoughts on how we can get clean and green in Hawaii, aloha. Welcome back to Code Insider. We're talking with Ken Cantor, Exposition Director of Next Week's Property Management Expo. It has a longer name than that, but I'm gonna keep it a property management expo because it's way too long for my senior years to remember all that. But let's just review briefly. We were talking about it's a free show, parking six bucks at the Blaisdell. It's next week, Wednesday and Thursday. Seminars begin at eight, the exhibition booth's open at nine, is that correct? And we have lots of exhibitors. But they can come down without any registration. Register at the show. They don't have to go through some preliminary thing. If they just wanna, I got time in my schedule today, bop on down there and I can do that. You can go to our website, douglastradshows.com and see all the seminars. You can even register for a badge, but it's not mandatory. We do require badges to be worn when you get into the exhibit hall, but they can pick up a badge at the onsite registration counter when they arrive. It's free of charge. Now I've seen you remember, you're giving me a whole bunch of little coupons that I go around and drop them in these different colored boxes. Different colored boxes. Might win a trip to Vegas or Neighbor Islands or... People do win and there are six trips for two that we give away to Las Vegas. Vacations Hawaii provides though, we're very happy that they're involved. And it encourages people to walk the show floor, deposit a entry, they're personalized, so they have their names on them and they can also visit the exhibitors around them. I'm very forgetful. As soon as I get in the show, I run around, do all the boxes first, and then I go take my leisurely time around. Otherwise, I'm gonna forget and I wanna make sure I have a chance to win, although I haven't won yet, but I guess odds are one in three or four thousand, yes. Well, they're not too bad considering we have, what, 3,400 people and six chances to win. So I wouldn't say those are great Vegas odds, but people do win. Well, I do know. I see you're always announcing and awarding them and that's great, but you know, one of the things I think that shouldn't be overlooked about your show and I'm very prejudice about this point is you have some outstanding, incredible, dynamic speakers in your seminars. Yes, we do. We have one in particular that we're very proud of. He does seminars on reserve studies. Oh, I guess that's you, Richard, sorry. I don't know how we figured that out, you know? And this year we're doing, as I said, 26 seminars. Everything from fire safety, obviously, that issue is a critical issue that's come to everybody's attention this year. We have them on the issues of condo boards, responsibilities for finances. We have a gentleman from Morgan Stanley who's gonna be talking about the statutes, the state statutes that relate to how condo boards can invest their funds, which is fairly limited, but there are some options. We have two seminars, one on security systems, the technology of security systems, which is changing every day. There's no way to keep up and then another one on the new controls for parking lot revenue control, how the control systems is doing it. And that's getting sophisticated as well, where you can go on your cell phone and find a parking space anywhere downtown without having to drive around, but that has to be managed and controlled, especially if those parking stalls are also part of the use of the tenants in the building. And that kind of technology is just changing every day. Well, I think if people went into the website or got your brochure and they looked at the 26 seminars you have, they had some incredible topics. I happen to know, I think his name is Travis, who's doing the one on the financial. A lot of boards don't know besides the traditional bank CDs, you have something called CDARs, ICS. There's different ways you can legally invest with well-protected instruments. And a lot of time you don't think about it, but a difference between 2% and 1% in your investments makes a big difference with respect to your earnings and your reserve study. So I find some of the seminars are absolutely really interesting depending on what your issues are as your association. So tell me about some other seminars. Well, I try and pick subjects by talking to professionals in the industry, seeing what's relevant. And we're doing one on what's referred to as arc flash hazard control where the electrical system in a building could put out an electrical arc flash that, and I found this very difficult to believe, as hot as 30,000 degrees Fahrenheit in less than a microsecond, and it can vaporize everything in the room. And this is the, in the top 10 dangerous types of accidents that OSHA tracks in the United States. And in buildings like we're seeing today, huge buildings where the electrical power system is very complex, it's a serious problem and it has to be watched. And what we're finding, what's interesting to find is who's coming to these seminars. They find them and then we realize we're reaching a crowd we had no idea we're reaching. So you have the insurance market is attending it, the condo boards are attending it, the maintenance and resident manager people are attending it because they all have the responsibility of understanding the problem. Well this is, I can put my own little commercial message in on this, that you know, because I'm in the association management industry, I see lots of board members and owners of associations at these seminars. I know Community Association Institute actually does a lunch in there one day. Tell us a little about that. This year they're doing one on the whole issue of fire safety, but they're bringing in not only experts in the safety issues, but the fire department. And it's really a panel discussion that is going to bring everybody up to date on what the statutes are and what's going through the legislature right now. So it's real time and that's on Thursday, it's a lunch and on Thursday starts at 1130 a.m. You do not have to be a CAI member to attend. There is a fee however, but it's an hour and a half session with a full lunch. Well I would encourage people to go to that. I was on one of the subcommittees of the residential fire safety advisory committee. I know this month there's a couple of bills before the city council with respect to providing some financing or tax relief for homeowners and condos, but I think the March session has the, I call it the big dog in the room or whether it's gonna be mandatory sprinkler retrofitting.  But I do want to take a minute and promote my three seminars. Absolutely. Just because every year I've had to publish a doing this, I would tell people that they're quite popular to the extent I see two to 300 people in these seminars and not just mine, but seminars at the show because the quality of information is there generally speaking throughout the entire seminar. And I do my traditional seminars which is on Wednesday, I have eight a.m. And I am doing one on a legislative update where we stand this year in the legislature, but also the general direction on a strategic level or where the legislature is going, what kind of bills are being introduced, what kind of concerns the legislature have and where the industry is kind of going in future. Then at 10 o'clock that day, I have one which is ironic, it's called Peace and Harmony and Condominium. It talks about, how do you have a peaceful, harmonious living environment? It goes back to again, how we treat people and how we govern and what the current laws are, what the current thinking is to resolve disputes. And then on Thursday, I do one on modern thinking of reserve studies. And basically it's centered around the concept that if you think about it, and you have wastewater pipes and all the architectural reference manuals say they have a useful life of 50 to 100 years, well how do you pick in your reserve study 50 years or 100 years? Because the effect is very dramatic and how much money you have to put in. You have twice as much time to do it if it's 100 years versus 50 years. And so there's a whole lot of changing in the thinking of how you do reserve studies today and having the background of reserve studies and certifications nationally for doing reserve studies and also having written several laws here in Hawaii. I give a kind of a uptake on where this is going so that boards can better manage and plan this. But even though I promoted my own seminars in a way, I think in general I would say to you, your seminars are really high quality. They're really good speakers. Thank you. When you and I first met, we talked about education and how it would serve the market and serve especially the condo boards which have the responsibility to manage a multi-million dollar business. So everything related to the education that we try and provide and which you helped create some of it is to facilitate the condo boards, the volunteers, the ones that have to keep an eye on what's happening in the building to realize that they're running a multi-million dollar business and the ability to do it efficiently and effectively and creatively raises property values. And that's how it works. And the thing I want to emphasize about the seminars from my perspective, no one's trying to sell anybody anything, it's strictly educational on the issues, pros, cons, risk rewards, industry issues. It's not a sales pitch. We have a very strong policy to not be putting on infomercials. And if it goes in that direction, we change it. It should be information that everybody can share, that is helping everybody to move along. Yeah, I think that's generally well said because I've been involved in your seminar for several years now and not only as a speaker but as a helping through being a sponsor or a booth participant. And I found that to be one of the most meaningful chances for board members and owners to in a natural, relaxed, well-run environment, walk around, talk to people, get information where they have an interest, attend seminars that are very valuable to what they're trying to deal with. I'm frankly surprised at the end of my seminars, I typically have to hang around for 30 minutes or more answering questions that creates this interest in how they can run their home and their association better. It helps drive the show, but it also helps create the environment of coming down and spending a few hours, not just looking at products and services, but relating to people in the room that you may not have met before who have the same problems or trying to solve the same problems you are and gaining the education. So I really appreciate your doing it and you were very instrumental in giving us a focus on how to do that well. Well, we're at the end of the show, so I'm gonna ask you to remind everybody where it is, the dates and the times, how to register and how to show up and then we'll wrap it up. Okay, I think that's the camera right there. Hawaii Buildings Facilities and Property Management Expo is Wednesday, March 7th and Thursday, March 8th at the Blaisdale Center. It's free, produced by Douglas Trade Shows. You can come on down and attend the free seminars and see over 250 companies occupying 300 exhibit spaces with product services and equipment to help you manage and operate your building or facility. Well, thank you for being here and I would tell everybody, I encourage you to go, it's a great show and a lot of great seminars and hope to see some of you at my seminar. This wraps up this week's condo insider. Next week we're gonna have Jane Sugimura back and we're gonna be talking about a hot topic called priority of payment. As you know, when you pay maintenance fees, those are applied in a certain order and creates unintended consequences and problems and there's new laws being promoted this year. So next week we'll be back with Jane Sugimura talking about priority of payment issues and thank you for watching condo insider, aloha.


All right, welcome everyone. Today I will talk about reproducible builds and estate over content delivery network. Essentially it's an update on the, on previous talks about reproducible builds within AGL within AGL and what next steps are going on right now in upstream Yocto and within automotive grid Linux. I'm Jan Simon-Muller, I'm the release manager and I'm also doing the continuous integration and automated testing within AGL and I'm on the Yocto project board for IGL. So today I will give a quick overview about reproducible builds to explain what it is. I will show how it's done within Yocto, within the Yocto project and AGL. I'll show you how you can use the estate, how the one of the newer features the hash equivalent server works. What is now being done to improve the speeds by using a content delivering network for the estate and an outlook how everything will fit together than in the end. So reproducible builds, what does that mean? So reproducible builds mean that from the same sources and the same configuration, we will get the exact same binary today, tomorrow, on my PC, on your PC. That's the goal. And in other words, the build system needs to be deterministic and produce a deterministic output so why is that not always the case? Well, here's one example, why two builds might not be the same. Oops, does it want to play? So one example is here, if the binary has, for example, timestamps in it here that will change between today and tomorrow, right? Which means the binary will have a different date in it which means it's not identical. So that's one example. Build IDs are a common example that will make it different every time you build. There could be folders, folder names from the, during the build or commit IDs. Think of it, the commit ID might, you just change the documentation, right? The actual application binary should be exactly the same. No, we embed a build commit ID. Of course that helps during development, right? But later on during the distribution, this hurts. So better don't do that. Use your release version and encode that. For compile of languages tools. So in GCC, Selang, there are solutions to deal with the build in build ID with the debug symbol path and so on. So this can be dealt with with compiler arguments already. So that's under control. For go and rust, that is still in progress. That's not fully solved yet. Some of those have a unique ID for each binary which is, right, a problem. Some of them encode path or custom folders per binary and things like that. So yeah, not fully baked at least in regards of reproducible builds. Remember, we want exactly the same binary output. There's a project, reproduciblebuilds.org, which is the home for all efforts around this. The Yoctoproject is not alone there. Most distributions take part in there and it's a collaborative project. The Yoctoproject and especially Open Embedded Core, the foundation of the Yoctoproject is fully reproducible. Out of the, I think 3,000 packages, I think it's one or two that still need to be fixed. What is true for OECore, so for the core layer is not true for additional layers yet. And in AGL, we are working on our layers. The Meta-AGL is fully reproducible. Meta-AGL devil has more dependencies and those dependencies still need work. So since Yoctoproject 4.0, reproducible builds are turned on by default. So we do not have to turn it on ourselves. We do set timestamps for source date epoch and for the root file system. That's what we set on top. Now, why is this beneficial? Well, you can then rebuild like your release image at a later point in time. Also, in other talks, previous talks, you have heard from things like SPDX, right? And SPDX tracks the binary. If your binary is different every time, you basically have to produce a new SPDX document for that binary, right? If you produce the same binary, you have your SPDX information already. Also, reproducible builds increase the build speed, obviously, right? If we have the same binaries, we can use them out of the cache. And fully reproducible builds also increase the support for offline builds as it allows us to pull down all the resources up front and then have a reliable way to do offline builds. Here's a quick slide about the build workflow of BitBake. Essentially, we need a few host tools. We have our sources. We have, we then produce first the native tools and with those and the sources and the meta data, we produce the target packages and from there, we produce the target image. And you see, we have here a set of hashes that identify those steps. And in Yocto, we can basically track these, well, forward, but also backward, essentially. To use a state, there are two things you can do. A, regarding the sources, you can turn on BB generate mirror tables during your build and then your download folder can be copied to a web server and that location can then end up in premieres and that will speed up the, everything regarding fetching sources. The estate directory is now a binary cache. So this is not only compiled files, but this is a cache for multiple binary artifacts, binary build artifacts and that can be reused. So essentially this estate here, you can also put on a web server and then there is estate mirrors that you can set. That's exactly what we do in AGL. We have our source mirror, we have our estate mirror and reproducible builds will help you to improve your build times because well, we have those binary artifacts already, right? There's a newer component and that is called the hash serve. Now, we do track changes in the recipes and essentially any change in a recipe will enforce a rebuild. Okay, yes, that's what we want, right? We build everything from source and that will then trigger a rebuild of any depending artifact as well. Now, let's assume we just changed a typo somewhere, not in the code, so it doesn't change anything in the binary, so it could be in the documentation. This should not change the actual application binary. Or the library.  But we can detect that the binary is already, that the hash of the binary artifact is already known, already present, right? Remember, we have here, we do a lot of hashing and we know that, oh, wait a second, this binary we did actually produce before. So what we can do is we can say, we know this already. So this hash of the binary is equivalent to the one that happened before, right? So we can say this is equivalent and that then means, here's an example. So let's say we do rebuild lib y here. Well, usually this would then trigger a rebuild of your big app, right? With hash equivalency and kind of just a documentation change which doesn't end up in the binary, we can now detect the equivalence and say, wait a minute, the new hash of lib y is essentially equivalent to the previous one, so we don't need to rebuild, we can short circuit and save a lot of build time here. And we can query big app from the cache now. So that's the new development which is now in upstream Yachto. We started to use that in HGL as well. We have a hash equivalent server running and they're using that actively now. So to summarize that, reproducible builds are good for build performance, they are good for maintainability and they go very well together with a local big bag or with a local cache for big bag. So here's another piece of the puzzle, right? We have the hash equivalent server. So we can say, wait a minute, we have this already. We did build this already, go look at this. So that means we will do more queries to our estate server. And what's happening upstream in Yachto is that the Yachto project estate is now available through a content delivery network. That's restricted to all files that are smaller than 64 megabytes, but the good news is that this is already 99. something percent of the artifact cache. So essentially all Yachto files are available through a content delivery network. So the effect is that the downloads will be faster if you use this as your estate mirror. Now, one step after the other. Now we have the artifacts. We scaled out the artifacts. The crucial piece is then the hash equivalent server. So next step, we need to scale our hash equivalency server. In upstream Yachto, the hash serve is running on this host and port. But this is a single server instance, right? So this is basically a single point of failure and kind of, yeah, it reaches its limits essentially. So lesson learned and those patches are being merged into upstream Yachto last week and being improved now. They are extending the hash server so they can now run multiple processes overload balancer with a database backend and so on. So that's the next piece of the puzzle. Essentially, we are hearing up for creating a binary distro that is one project that is being worked on in upstream Yachto now. That work is being sponsored by the sovereign tech fund. It's a German fund. And this work is ongoing just now. Automotive Red Linux will follow based on, well, when this code lands in the release in the long-term support release of Yachto. At the moment, we are also setting up the same bits in the CDN for our estate to speed up delivering the binary artifacts. We have set up in the same way and hash a quick server. There's a read-only port and a read-only port for a PR serve which is needed for a binary distro. So we are following that set up in the same way. Here are some references. The announcement for the CDN setup. There are, yes, last week, there was the Yachto project submit the fall Yachto summit and I linked two talks that deal with hash equivalency and with estate. Any questions? Thank you for joining and have a nice rest of the conference.


With the WCHA postseason well underway, regular season awards were finally announced. Michael Bitzer, Phil Marinaccio, Jerry Fitzgerald and Zach Whitecloud were named first team, second team, third team and all rookie team respectively. But the Beavers as a team are still on the hunt for more hardware. BSU will host Bowling Green in the WCHA semifinals this weekend. And after being pushed to an elimination game last weekend, they say they already have an upper hand. We might have kind of won that game in the last four or five minutes where we gave up some chances. We weren't really, I don't think we were clicking on all cylinders, but again, you found a way to win and I think that was important. I think that was a big step for our guys. And if we want to have success this weekend, I think that game three was actually a big win from that standpoint. Sunday was just a huge game. It was an elimination game. It was good to win one of those early. That's something that we have over any other WCHA team right now. They haven't, none of them have played in an elimination game yet. So it was just a great learning experience.