for your caring spirit deeply appreciate you it's very nice and see the Jinmir with the five dollars thank you don't know hug the puppy for me and thanks for sticking up for trans folks oh thank you sweet you good take it away all right yeah oh this one is for me goblin friend Canadian five dollars thank you so much so they wanted Emma to answer this but she's not here but fuck Mary kill whatever lurks under the beanie crowders unsolicited homoeroticism in the workplace then being consumed by his sentient eyebrows this is the worst I'm gonna say I don't know this is easy this is easy this is easy yeah well I would I've been thinking about this specific situation multiple times well the kill part is easier the kill part is easy because out of these three things there's only one thing that is hurting and horrible to other people and that's crowders unsolicited abuse in the workplace so that one is obviously we get rid of that right then and there kill that one I mean we all know that there's just nothing under the beanie literally nothing because what it's hiding is the lack of something so we could marry that because you'll be marrying nothing and you could just I guess close your eyes close your eyes one and done you know okay I'm persuaded I think that's a good argument yeah okay there you go that's the answer the way that David put it I don't know I would argue if nothing is under the beanie then I'm going to eff that so I don't have to touch anything at all that's true so you'll marry Ben's face just well it's the eyebrows I don't know you don't have to you could divorce or write the next day there you go marry divorce you could always divorce I don't think that's part I think marry I think in this in this specific game marry is I always understood it as you over many years eff oh no no no rules were stipulated so I don't know I never thought nice to see how David Dolve use his own marriage I'm just saying you can treat it how you want right so if you don't enjoy it you don't need to be in it listen me and my wife don't touch each other and also I'm assuming that's what marriage is that is not the case who's this for I don't think it's for me not me oh that is for me okay mister I'm sorry A85 Ramos with five dollars thank you Ramos the older I get the more I get gaming fatigues so I take breaks you guys got any tips on how to handle work life hobbies for me I think that taking breaks is good one thing that I'll say is play something that is fun that makes you happy not like the thing that people are talking about right because when I was you know when I was going through college it was really hard to find time to play games and certain like jobs that I worked at I had little time but what little time I had I would always get like I would jump into the hype train so it's like oh I want to play this latest and greatest game just play something that you like even if it's older because then you're gonna actually genuinely enjoy it you don't always have to play like the latest and greatest game so just find something that you like even if it's something you already played and yeah that might help you recapture the magic like for me if I kind of get like fatigue with newer games I always go back to like Stardew Valley or something that you know just genuinely makes me happy yeah have you played it's good you might like it I hate games like that Animal Crossing Stardew Valley anything when you got a you like cozy games live no no I don't play games to get cozy I play games to kill well to be fair I think that Stardew is much different than I mean it's similar to Animal Crossing but there is more to it right like you're trying to run a farm it's more social relationships right and like kinda like there's that aspect but there's also like you know you go in mines and you you try to find you know different items there's more to it than Animal Crossing for sure in terms of gameplay but Animal Crossing is peak cozy game for sure but Stardew Valley is something that I think anyone this one's for me five pounds thank you Hideus Lemon can guarantee of leftist mafia adds some sack tap the show will pop off I don't know about that but listen yeah no if virtual sack tap listen if sack tapping is actually the secret sauce to Steven Crowder's riches then I give you all consent to sack tap away over here if you would like for the good of the show I mean just think about like even your partner doing that to you would that not be the most irritating fucking thing imaginable like just like why you know what I mean just stop touching people like listen I'll take one for the team I promise if that's if that's actually the magic behind his imagine that's why he's so successful I'm pretty sure it's the billionaire money behind him I think that's what the he's sack tapping the billionaires that's how he gets the money there's a link for Rebek I'm not sure this is for but there's an actual link to oh that's that's for me Mark Robinson this is $20 super chat this is for Rebecca like like David said there's a paypal link for Rebecca any super chats that you give I'm keeping because it's mine no I'll send the $20 to Rebek I swear I'll send it to Rebek je but the thing is that you should definitely if you want to get money to Rebek YouTube takes 30% whereas with the paypal donation link she'll get all of it so that's why you should definitely oh yeah I was gonna send $20 to Rebek but I don't get $20 to give Rebek yeah yeah so it really is the best way to support her it's just straight up through paypal I know it's like you know it's not as fun it's like a super chat and stuff but she could really use it so like I would really prefer that you know instead of sending it to me you know send it to Rebek it's for me I believe A85RAMO is the super chat Emma's ESVN is awesome how does she feel about covering sports from the left so far anything she wants to talk about that she has not had time to I'll ask her and we'll definitely get an answer there in terms of you know what that question you're asking is but yes Emma's got a great sports show spin-off from Majority Report it's Emma covering sports from a leftist perspective as a big sports fan I think that's great because I don't think there's very many if any I could think of explicitly leftist sports shows and Emma's actually like a real Emma's actually like a real deal like hardcore fan of basketball football, baseball all the majors hockey as well her pitch for that show was really true she was like I feel like there is no like sports show from a leftist perspective and like she's totally right that there really isn't it's massively untapped market yeah Maui Gittuma $50 is very generous super chat thank you absolutely says speaking of sexual harassment there's a lesbian refugee human rights activist in Kenya who has a go fund me for her community please read Inki Okope on threads video showing conditions for the LGBT community there so I brought up the link as Matt was talking I will yeah we will check this out I'll have to read more into it and there's a video I think there's a video as well from YouTube but that for anyone that's watching as well check out for threads so you can't look at the timeline on threads but you can actually go to specific people's profiles so if you do threads.net they have the .net not the .com I don't think but threads.net slash that name then you'll be able to find that link I'm retweeting it right now so people can find it YouTube video alright but thank you Steven for me Steven Shivan with his $5 superchat wait until Alex Jones gets sued again and Crowder gets pulled into it yeah it could happen because Crowder had Jones fill in for him on his show which got him in trouble with YouTube that is so like not smart just yeah I saw clips of he did it to promote his he did it to promote his his mod club right yeah the rumble show the rumble show he's such a weird what were you going to say if we I can see it for next week if we go into more detail but I spent over an hour watching his whole special where he basically yeah I saw clips of this like uncancelling and all that kind of stuff and at the end of the day it's pretty wild he grabs some like S tier mad TV style people who got cancelled or whatever on there is one of the people but he's basically taking credit for rumble existing he's like it's like you know we can't be cancelled because we invented this new network that I was like you're on rumble anyone joined rumble for free it's like me taking credit for YouTube because I'm on YouTube and being like I'm reaching more people than ever before because of my network my YouTube channel it was just so weird I'm not sure I've talked about this before though I mean on this show I know I have it before but it's like three years ago someone connected to rumble said that rumble was interested in talking to me because they were trying to find some people on the left to bring on to rumble to make it seem less far right really and they and they were like looking to sign people and I was like get back to me and if you like I don't want to be the first person there like I don't want to if you're actually it wasn't going to be like an exclusive thing it was going to be like you know if you post a video maybe exclusive for like I don't know like a day or something on there or like basically like you could work at the details so but I did not want to like at the time even like three years ago it was like a very right wing place and I did not want to be you know the guinea pig and clearly they didn't I don't know did they sign anybody from the left as far as I know they have it which I'm they signed Jimmy Dore Greenwald or Jimmy Dore so I'm just going to put this out there right now rumble if you're still looking for your leftist content there you go I've said before I would add them on Twitter and said like I want to make a a rumble series about Peter Thiel will you fund it or are you like free speech cucks or something and see if they if they spend money why not that's why look at this I challenge rumble Alphabet's a bad company too I challenge rumble to give me a leftist a million dollars to host the show on rumble in the to defend free speech if they truly love a diversity of voices they will give me a million dollars to have a rumble show and I will accept I will accept tell you right now I will accept I brought I brought this up though like in the conversation I'm like can I criticize anybody on rumble like can I criticize these people and they didn't have a straight answer for me so at that point I'm like if the contract is like you can't talk shit about anybody on there then you're then you're muzeling me as the free speech platform so yeah and the whole thing seemed weird but I am glad I did not jump into that rumble if you give me a million dollars I will whatever content you want you'll get it you tell me so you're pulling a jimidornas right now jimidornas jimidornas for a million dollars I will host a leftist show on rumble I will pull no punches I will be they want you to pull the punches is the problem I will give you one hell of a leftist show to give a broader spectrum of voices to your platform rumble a million dollars and you get this I don't know about that if rumble pays off my steed I will post one video there of my choosing there you go that's a commitment for a million dollars I will give you a daily show rumble I'm telling you right now speaking of fun content jaman g with a 49.99 super chat oh my god thank you says love the content guys binderfun wwf story brutis the barber beefcake told a story about Andre the giant adusing it on a plane to japan apparently everyone on the plane started crying and throwing up Andre is a big guy but it surprised me honestly did Andre not know how to flush that's another question how did he fit in the washroom that's something I'm curious about all right now we do that one already goblin friend who's this for I believe binder is it for me oh yeah it is goblin friend with a super chat how do you respect the men tea bags and employee are you doing like a what goes on in crouter's office definitely this one's for me hideous lemon with five pounds thank you why does crouter have to be bi shakes my head as a bi guy myself he does not represent us true bi solidarity with Lance and David money to Mike thank you appreciate that we love our bi kings and queens and nb I should say saying that somebody is probably closeted I don't think is is a wrong thing to do if that person is a piece of shit no no not at all yeah yeah only if you're weaponizing the fact that they could be gay is something negative but otherwise yeah exactly right I'm all for outing homophobes to expose their hypocrisy that's kind of my policy outing someone is I was literally outed to every single person I've ever known so like don't do it to like a gay person was like hey they're gay they want they want you to know do it to somebody who's a hypocrite just a random person right right I think most people can distinguish you know the difference I think context matters yeah exactly speaking of good news by the way what's his face just came out as pansexual it was fantastic oh right Wayne Wayne Brady Wayne Brady that's like the way yeah Wayne Wayne Brady are panting very cool I believe this is for Binder yes yep this is for me Wanda with a super chat glad you're back we missed you aw thank you Wanda I missed all of you too we did miss Matt although I will say do you want to know how short the show was Matt was it a lot shorter it was wonderful I gotta say it was wonderful we got just number three hours yeah I had to somewhat of a proper sleep somewhat a lot less super chats or something is that what you're saying just generally because less people I played like two to three hours worth of Final Fantasy before bed so damn 16 yeah 16 yeah I've heard it's good it's pretty fun yeah I like it although I do kind of I think I experienced what David was speaking to where there was like a moment where it's kind of just dull I think I just got past that moment I want to say or maybe but I can see what you're talking about for sure yeah I'm still glad I beat it but yeah Lance do some of your chats cat67 thank you for the $3 and the how's it going sticker I don't know if there's a sound I'm supposed to make for that meownian with the $1399 here's $14 Lance show them Ram Ranch if I sent you a clip of Ram would you play it I'm not gonna all right I'm not gonna risk any more my hands are tied mantang thank you for the $20 please help me confirm is Tim Pools dad the real guy and is that actually him in the chat he did a legit video the beanie burner took down Tim not sure if I'm too excited and getting trolled that apparently is and he was in my chat for the stream Tim Pools real father oh that's actually Tim Pools dad I thought it was a mean legend yeah no legends have it I mean if it's a character that's a hell of a character because I do know Tim Pools sister a little bit she's reached out to me several times and as far as I know that's Tim Pools dad shout out to mantang by the way I just met mantang last week at my patreon live chat she's awesome oh svijet and also thank you to Tim Pools dad for funding my show with the $10 dono that's fucking that's incredible I'm almost done I just knock out the last three yeah yeah I might as well just finish okay so so Ren thank you so much for the $2 I feel like Lance needs more chats you are correct take them away from Matt Binder give them to me thank you very much for the $2 a little super chat love for you and la dirada thank you for the $10 with the message of the shocked face thank you so much this one is for me progressive boomer with $5 Canadian thank you so much 8 months of membership hey cheers to that and Emma is a guest all the more reason for me to celebrate hey that's awesome any reason to that you can find to celebrate in these times is I think it's it's legitimate thank you so this one is from no this is for me okay Wanda $199 nice to see you again Wanda I have to Rebecca but had to give some to you too I really appreciate the kind sentiment thank you so much thank you for giving to Rebecca as well this one this one is for me here we go Maui with $10 thank you so much hey David give Mike that $50 wasn't meant for you dang seriously though check out the thread thank you Maui on threads I retweeted both of your or at least the top two tweets in that thread so people can check it out if you want to see it I don't know if you're following me on threads but it's just Mike.figurato I did retweet it so you can check it out but thank you for sharing that Maui still alive with $999 thank you says now that's Steven Crowder is pretty much canceled is there anything in Ben Shapiro's closet that could sink him into relevancy too or his fast talking style too profitable for that to happen I mean I wouldn't even say Crowder was gone I mean Crowder I mean his views are going down for sure but I think he's still he still has membership right he still has by the way just it's my personal opinion I think a lot of that Mug Club membership are like big ass donors that are just pretending there's like a lot of people that's my thoughts on that but yeah it's probably a mix but he's always going to exist because there's going to be billionaires giving him money unless he does like a Milo where he just says something really that's really sensible for his audience then it's not going to matter so I don't see him going away and same as Shapiro I don't I think Shapiro is just I don't think he's hiding anything really I just think he's a bad person like I don't think Shapiro really has anything else what you see is what you get and they're not they have so much money they can absorb these blows right they can have shit views for one year, two years they're going to be around because they are comfortable as fuck they are millionaires so that they can they're going to be they can be really shitty people and still be imagine if that story came out about the Saktap about like I don't know majority report like that Sam's like we're going to work here we got to play Saktap like that's they would be done like you know what I mean because people there's some principles there's some standards that you expect something out of certain people for them you expect nothing out of Crowder so it's just it doesn't matter what he does Foresto Mentero even with even the Elon stands are out of excuses I argued with one recently who didn't even try to defend him just said he succeeded before so I trust him yeah sound logic oh it's for me too Kowalski leftists going to the right wing the TYT pivot seems like that's becoming a thing something in water gas leak that's the popular theory I've heard Taylor Celad Celadonija sez please make Emma a permanent leftist mafia member she's legit on my face love you bish Emma's great I don't think she would do this I don't think she would do this I don't think she would do this yeah I think she has a lot going on she is too I mean she's great she's fantastic but I think she's a lot going on yeah that'd be amazing but she doesn't need you know to an extra thing to do when she's on majority like it's a massive show so and then she has to wake up yeah yeah we can dream though Ignar Husky with a super chat hey Matt tidings for the punk you ever check out some of the bands I've recommended been curious to hear what you have to think about them cheers I don't remember what bands you specifically recommended Ignar resend them to me and I'll let you know if I check them out I don't recall which ones you specifically recommend sorry I remember Ignar but I cannot remember the names for the life of me teeth I think was one of them I don't even remember Ishmael Rodriguez 1999 super chat different message thank you says Rebecca some of these chats on my YouTube screen have like a one beside them and it's like this one has like a one it's flashing I don't know what that means I haven't seen that before it's almost like a super sticker but it's with the super chat but thank you thank you Ishmael Rodriguez that one for rest of the super chat I'm still mad about Marilyn Manson being an assaulter for my entire childhood he cosplayed the enlightened emo dude and I used to think he was great he always that wasn't him he wasn't the enlightened emo dude he was always fucking weird that's someone I was not a fan of yeah I wasn't a big fan of him I didn't think he was a terrible guy I mean I didn't really have any opinion on him but he definitely was not did not come across as like a emotional guy that's for sure if you ask me is this for wow Adam Iloff with a $20 super chat speaking of disappointment if you want to replace Tucker where you will get so scared with misinformation easily debunked by a 2 second Google search then let grandpa know of the Anna Kasperian power hour what's going on here I'm confused by the formation of this sentence yeah I am too what is going on in the young turks I thought it was just like she was just talking shit about YouTubers not YouTubers like leftist I guess the YouTubers leftist YouTuber like Vosh now is she doing stuff on the I don't watch TYT it's something you guys have to understand it's possible this is about Vosh I'm not sure I never watched TYT like TYT was not my intro to any of this it wasn't my my basis for any of this it did not have anything to do with my politics at all I did not watch any TYT so like I really don't really know what's going on there now let alone like how they usually are told me anything about TYT and I would just say oh well I guess this person watches TYT and knows better than me I've never watched it I think they're referring to the emphasis on certain issues over others the stories that they choose you know just in general things that you know for a while now have kind of like bothered me a little bit just like the over emphasis on like crime crime probably stuff like that I'm assuming yeah yeah yeah weird framing drug war stuff like I think Lance's breakdown was pretty fair contrary to popular belief but you know yeah you are very nuanced in it and explaining yeah I mean framing is a bit yeah of an issue you know just from a leftist perspective generally speaking I've had trouble sort of covering this stuff because to me Young Turks literally means nothing like I'm not saying this is a negative or positive it's just for me personally nothing that about them that they did or had any effect on my politics on my life on my entertainment viewing nothing so like you know if people you know of jank and Anna got them into progressive politics that's great I'm glad they did that but like for me personally I got no connection to them whatsoever Lobowski says and people seem to forget that Connie said he's a Nazi I don't think anybody forgets that yeah you literally said the line that he said like quoted Travis Scott forgot because you brought him out on stage well I don't think he forgot recently I don't think he gives a shit yeah the difference this one is from Kowalski for me 199 I forgave Mel Gibson I'm selling out to the right someone said in the chat that I'm falling asleep I'm actually not falling asleep I'm actually literally dealing with the vertical right now I'm like the room is spinning this is why you keep losing your space spot in the super chat you're just like yeah they have medication that you can take for like motion sickness yeah drama mean I took a pill before we started right yeah okay has that helped you at all it helped for a little bit but not really I think this is just something I'm gonna have to power through I've had it for a while I've had it for a while there usually is narrator doesn't seem to be here though narrator usually narrator just donated $20 to me saying from Matt's chat thank you narrator oh there you go oh so narrator is here all right I see how he's narrator no I'm joking there is a who's this for Tara Lara Farah I believe this is for Matt right is it let me check really quick no this is not for me oh no this is for me okay I oh we skipped one from A85 Ramos which is why it was a little bit off we'll come back oh sorry yeah we did oh okay okay we'll do that real quick then A85 Ramos $5 thank you so much don't worry Mike Matt probably lept Hulk Hogan Vince was probably a god to him as a kid and he was a Steiner freak is this true Matt I'm wondering are there any any cancelable I was a big Hulk Hogan fan dropped him as soon as I mean I dropped him well before the video actually what really bothered me was his reaction to his son getting into that car racing crash and literally destroying his friends life I don't know if you guys heard like that show I remember that I watched that show yeah that VH1 show completely ruined Hulk Hogan like the whole aura around him died with that show because he came through his whole family came through was really bad they came off terrible his son was car racing with his friend in the passenger seat and they got to a horrible crash and like the crash literally like put a hole and his friends had like his friend is basically alive but like brain dead or something like that wow and Hulk Hogan's response was something like you know it's what it's probably what he wanted you know god everything happens for a reason it was yeah it was a very bad response something like wow decided before the even the racist video and everything Vince McMahon yes it's a bit a a weird relationship because the guy literally runs the wrestling business but I mean he from what it's come out about him he's obviously not a good person so very easy to drop Vince the person but you know like David said under capitalism nothing is pure and sacred if you watch wrestling you are that if you're watching wrestling in the year 2023 you are not watching a single thing that has been touched by Vince in some way even promotions in Japan promotions in Mexico who have nothing to do Vince has changed the wrestling business to the point where they are all influenced by how he turned the WWE into an entertainment franchise not just like a pro wrestling like exhibition as for Steiner I was never a fan of Rick Steiner who said that transfer so the Steiner brothers were big wrestling tag team back in the day over the years one of them Scott Steiner became big as a singles wrestler his brother Rick did not but they do conventions every now and then together and at a convention this past year there's this trans wrestler trans woman wrestler who was walking by at the convention and Rick Steiner apparently unprovoked just started shouting transphobic stuff at her he's a huge asshole so yeah I've never been a fan of him so it doesn't matter he doesn't matter maybe one way or the other I gotta go to bed soon I'm like I need to go to bed soon so I'm gonna run through mine if you guys don't mind I'm bailing pretty quick so let me start here oh god American traveler $10 great starting point great, you already answered it you already answered it yeah, we already answered it we are tired of this already but what's everyone's opinion because we're in a few with Fosh yeah, we just talked about it let me get to Vima Vima Rochelle $10 super chat thank you so much says do you guys know Justin King aka both the fifth column I didn't know that was his name I'd love to hear him on with y'all I don't think I've ever seen him on a podcast before I've only ever seen him in his I interviewed him a couple of times like 3 years ago that's before all the information came out about the human trafficking stuff and all that kind of you know it's a deep rabbit hole but something okay, I don't have to wait, I'm not yeah, exactly way longer than before yeah, yeah, yeah Vinci says thank you fifth column chat says I saw a local amateur standup one said quote my daughter I identify as a 21 year old but she couldn't keep her liquor down hmm right wing humor very funny yeah, that's the one joke that they have okay yeah let me find you again Vinci says get Dusty Smith on the show he's a legend I don't know who this I think he's been brought up before but I'm not sure who this Dusty Smith is I like Dusty yeah, I like Dusty he's a reformed like right winger Ladida $10 superchat thank you says this was for Bender but his SUV joking all right, just a few more here show and yes there's a Joanna sent a few out wait, we're just doing all yours? I missed that yeah, just so I can get out of here because I need to get up in the morning Joanna Davis $999 thank you so much for your superchat and two more Kazumi $7 thank you says Rumble needs to allow people to search for live streams they don't allow that? that seems bizarre seems like a basic feature of search all right, last one narrator left his best great one thank you narrator all right guys I'll try to bring you up for where we were before if I remember the spot and let me get out of here as I do that yeah time lube by the day there you go, you were here all right guys good night good night, take care bye David bye I'm probably going to crash too all right, peace take care see you later, see you next week bye friends see you next week oh, by the way, met Bender answer my dms on Twitter you've never responded to like two old ones I sent you a while back oh, I didn't even realize I'm sorry, I'm out of it yeah, I'll check it out right now all right so this one I'm zooming out of my red sunburn face okay, so Tara Lera Farah 499 thank you, Tara wish it wasn't normalized for people to be all well, I guess that's okay for them but if my child was queer like kids are just property responding to Neo yeah, yeah this isn't necessarily a new sentiment towards like the LGBTQ plus community where it's like okay, well, I guess I can tolerate it if it's out of sight out of mind but if my kid if my son brings home a boyfriend or if my daughter brings home a girlfriend or his trans then I'm not going to tolerate it yeah, it's it's very it's obviously antiquated and it's a way for them to I guess like justify their their low level of tolerance but yeah, I know what you're speaking to Tara and I've seen it and yeah, my parents said that before too like, oh, as long as you know, one of my kids aren't gay went before I had come out, you know so these things like, you know, they they do hurt even if if you think your kids are straight and cis they might not be and they're going to remember that it's going to stay with them so yeah, parents do need to stop doing that for sure all right, this one is for you I believe yep, Forresto with the Super Chat I highly recommend to everyone watches the son Piker's coverage of the brawl he narrated it like he was doing a Super Bowl play-by-play of an MMO raid that does sound like fun I'll have to check it out that sounds like a very good idea on how to cover it I believe also for you Ignor Husky that fight was probably the most memed fight ever and it's just glorious LMAO I love that the smoke signal went out and every giga chat came into flex also for you Ladi Da with the Super Chat $10 Super Chat Michael Schellenberger menšin in the UFO subreddit and feel like that's where the next right wing griff recruitment drive will be oh yeah, they're already jumping on that it fits in perfectly with like the government doesn't want you to know yep absolutely absolutely and listen, there is shit the government doesn't want you to know that we should obviously try to find out about and there should be whistleblowers and we should find out these things because not everything they don't want us to know is in our best interests but I don't think this is one of them and it's clear based on who's jumping on this and what actually legit information we have on this what's real and what's bullshit yeah yeah, I agree with that also speaking of the whole UFO thing the latest whistleblower David Grosh there's an article by him by Ken Klippenstein in the Intercept which by the way he was let go from which is very weird you know it was an interesting article so I recommend that you you read that and you support Ken Klippenstein because he is good yeah he's awesome we love Ken okay, this one is for me from Maui Gatuma thank you so much for the $10 so we got a singer and we got bass bass, excuse me how do the rest of y'all feel about drums Rebecca is a great fit love Rebecca you know, I have never played the drums but I feel like I kind of have an ear for music I might be able to do I might be able to be drums if I take the time to learn I could do it we could have a whole band here this one is for me from Kate hey Kate, I just met Kate also last week at my latest Patreon chat love Kate great show by the way Mike's chat is best true, thank you Kate let's see here this one hang on one second I think this is for you actually let me double check yep, dare double Mike, I will write you some sick burns to use on binder how mean do you want to get on a scale from one to ten with ten being nice and ten being mean I wouldn't go past the six I can't be mean especially to binder you gotta turn the knob up to eleven I can't it's funny when you turn up the meanness because I know you're joking but for me if I said something mean even if I'm joking obviously I don't know I would still feel guilty and mean so I don't know maybe I'm a cuck let's cuck I could hand I could take it so you could feel free to give me whatever you want okay I'm a little bit of a cuck I can't be mean okay, so we have I believe this one is for you or unless we read this one Katie Shepi with the Super Chat Happy Thursday melting out here in Phoenix love all of you people well, stay cool Katie I love you too I don't even want to yeah, yeah it's 69 degrees in Portland at least that's what my watch says this one is for you Andy Elmanman I hope or Andy Elmanman with the Super Chat Bindar, I've worked in the vestibular rehab for five years sounds like you might have Malday debarkment I came across that on my Google searching yes you can be treated by a vestibular PT or an ENT I don't know if I'm going to go into do you recommend I go in do you think it's necessary it's pretty bad I might have to go in if it doesn't clear up in a day or two because it's it's not been a few days this boat ride was on Saturday and you've just been dealing with this the whole time yeah oh wow oh wow you've just been suffering then it's actually it actually goes away when you are in motion so in car rides it's not there when I was doing other things where I was in fast movements it wasn't there it's a lot easier to deal with when I'm just walking it's noticeable but it's not so bad sitting down in front of a computer is actually the worst I haven't done this all vacation sit down in front of a computer so I didn't know to get like this this is definitely the worst the whole room is spitting this whole time oh shit there's gotta be something that they can give you to at least like calm it down that's not fun yeah I might have to do another drama me and I took one pill thinking that'd be enough because I don't like taking I mean I'm not like anti-science or medication like some straight edge people are but I don't want to I don't like to overdo it so I try to keep it at what the minimum or the recommended amount is and not go like if it says take one or two pills I take one but it seems like I might have to take two pills yeah yeah yeah okay this one is for me from 420 bongsmo $5 thank you this is going to sound corny but I love the woke mob woke ideology outro in my opinion when those two terms are said so much it highlights the stupidity yeah yeah so they're referring to my outro with Elon Musk and Rhonda Santis where they said woke so many times during the launch of his presidential campaign that it became a meme yeah I think that you're absolutely right it highlights how stupid they are all the different variations of you know weaponized wokery and all the stumpshit woke olympics they just sound like clowns okay so I believe this is you narrator coordinated leftist mafia plus majority report audience twitter campaign to challenge tim full to debate sam cedar he's not going to do it we've challenged him right on his own show on air he's not going to do it he's scared maybe he'll do it let's put this away maybe eventually something will push him over the edge to do it but it's not going to be any sort of online pressure it's going to be someone in person and calling him a pussy that he respects or something like that like like I don't know like Joe Rogan would have to call him a pussy for not debating sam cedar but I think Rogan himself is another one who's afraid to debate sam so that'll probably not happen either I think that he would be wise to not debate sam cedar because sam cedar is a very very talented debater and I don't remember his name he had the guy who was on temple show with Emma and they debated about crime and it did not go well for him Sam poked a million different holes in all of his arguments and this is why people don't debate sam cedar he's a very skilled debater very knowledgeable so I don't think it's going to happen I believe this one is for you see the jenomir with the superchat tell me how to pronounce the jenomir it's actually jenmir I'll see if I remember that they did say that a couple of weeks ago I think and I I don't know if I mispronounced it since then but I'm certainly trying we're gonna get it down for sure okay here is another one for you so right with the superchat Matt if I said you were my hero would you expose all of the skeletons in your closet live on leftist mafia I mean I'm sure every asshole who has skeletons in their closet have come out to be horrible people have said this but I legitimately have no skeletons in my closet what you see is what you get I don't think they'll they'll ever change I'm gonna wake up one day and decide to be a huge douchebag and be a terrible person but who knows maybe this mall day debarkment will drive me up the wall and I'll just go on a rampage one day because I'm so dizzy all the time is this for you or David I don't know if we went over this one this is for me now right over the superchat either die a leftist or live long enough to see yourself become center right Michael J. Scott probably also for you no this wasn't for me no? ok you already read this one oh is that oh ok oh right so this one's for me a dusty partition with two dollars thank you love your content but this is for matador alright alright I'll send them some drama mean some additional ok so la di da for me ten dollars thank you so much are you guys playing balder's gate 3 I'm not I heard great things about about balder's gate my husband is playing it and it seems like he is enjoying it but he does think it's a little bit overhyped and there's some things that he doesn't like about it or for the most part I've heard really good things about it so I might check it out because I'm I give into the hype sometimes this one's also for me my dogs are got with five dollars Canadian I love the dogs so cute I sent some money to Becca's PayPal already I'm here to call you out David's chat tonight well thank you so much I'm really glad that you did send money to Rebecca I'm not in David's chat but I should be more we have another one for me from killer Ken five dollars Mike what that beard do I don't know I I trimmed it last week I cut off like two inches of my beard and it feels much much much better lighter I'm like ten pounds lighter after doing that let's see okay cold dog with a super chat next time you stream fortnight you should bring left as mafia we should do a fortnight stream everybody I'd be down yeah I wouldn't be very good at it and you know our cheeks would get clapped by Matt but it would be fun some type of gaming stream would be fun no we could be in the same team we could be a four person team oh but then we'll drag you down one thing that I will say and that'd be fun too but one game that would be really fun is there is this game called I think it's called what the dub and it's just like old movie clips and you just dub it yourself and you join with your phone and then you vote on who has the funniest dub and it reads it out and it reads out all the curse words and everything oh my god what's it called that sounds really great what's the dub what the dub I wanna say yeah it's like on nintendo switch on xbox it was a really fun stream oh it's on stream too okay yeah that would be a fun one for us to play on stream I think we'd have a blast we should do that yeah that'd be a ton of fun and the way that they edit the clips is they kind of like set it up so you do say something dirty like with where they cut it off so just really funny like the people who made this have dirty minds and a funny sense of humor but yeah that'd be a fun one okay so I think these ones were for David there's stickers from um let me see here oh no one was for me actually thank you Joanna I'm not seeing a message there or a sticker but I appreciate that um okay so the next one is this one bay photo starting to think Crater didn't take the deli wire 50 million contract because there was a no sack tapping clause yeah that could possibly be it god I can't imagine turning down 50 million dollars holy shit I would be done I just retire I mean listen I would I mean listen let's say like I was offered 50 million dollars by some right wing organization to like do a year of right wing content I would do the year of right wing content and then to absolve my sins I would just simply turn around and donate like 30 million 30 million of my 50 million to like an LGBTQ organization yeah uh I mean I don't I don't think I could I could even do that because I mean money isn't everything right like as we were saying earlier like you've got to be able to to live with yourself you know what though you know taking taking money from them though and then giving it directly to a good cause that will like you would have to like work out like will my commentary cause more harm than 30 million dollars worth of aid to an organization that helps out like I don't know like shit the youth or something I don't know I would assume I hope I know obviously I wouldn't take the money if that was the case right if it was like you know if it was like I gotta say that taxes are bad for a year and I would do 50 million I'll take and then donate the money but if it was like you know if it was like white supremacist content or like obviously right right like like virulent like anti-LGPTQ I couldn't do it but if it was just like if you were like a establishment anti-Trump Republican like a you know a suburban that wouldn't be as bad as like a you know a fascist right like I said it would depend on me to like talk about how like the tax rate should be cut and trickle down economics works then then I think I could do that and then give the money to good causes yeah yeah that's funny okay I think this one is for you also Kalia says if you had 50 million dollars you would say taxes are bad for free probably no I actually wouldn't I think if listen if I had 50 million dollars and they took like 50% of it 60% of it 70% of it I would still have like 10-20 million dollars I can't imagine being upset I'm not I'm not that guy I would be glad to pay that much in taxes if I had 50 million dollars which would then turn into what 10 million 20 million dollars I would be happy to do it God I don't get I don't think people understand how much money a million dollars is like like literally literally like literally like if someone gave me like 5,000 bucks right now I can't change my life I mean a million dollars would be like yeah I mean like I don't think that I've made a million dollars in total since I've been working since I was 16 and I've worked consistently like people don't understand like that is such a huge amount of fucking money right I would like I would say like with a million bucks I couldn't you couldn't live off a million bucks because what I probably do is I probably like just buy a house or a co-op or a condo or whatever just don't wanna pay rent anymore and then that would like wipe out like all of it obviously if not if not most of it so like then I do stuff to work but like that's what the first thing I would do if I had like a million bucks yeah you just be set for life basically not having to worry as much you know until the apocalypse hits you know then climate stuff but you know rent is the biggest expense so if you could wipe that out with and then you know yeah ok, so this one is for you ignore the super chat low small hablados was the Portland band local band there's Gorilla Splinter The Last Responders Fishbone Honestly, I forgot exactly each one too, LOL I needed that reminder I'm gonna make the note right now again and up I will let you know next week PDX local, ok although Fishbone im znao se ovo i odličio je, ovo je da je to tako je narrator uzi Ion uzačio uzačio uzačio uzačio uzačio uzačio uzačio uzačio uzačio uzačio uzačio uzačio da je to zašto zašto. Hvala je se ali da je povijestnog ilanu da je ilan, korrektila muske i kao se je zapravo, i musi da se ješte morda do im. A je to zašto zašto sve sve. To je da se ješta zašto zašto zašto. Da, to je ono jelarijše zašto, ne znam ništa zašto. Da je to da sam u svoj vršta u svijegu. Da je to. To je za mnogo na mnogo, dobro $5, djeljio mnogo. Janko stavljali na PbD podkastu, da se znači svoje mainstream progresive. Znači nešto ovo je. Ja, vidim, da je video, Janko stavljala mnogo na svoje kapi. To je, da smo svoje mainstream progresive. Znači, da je, da je, da je, da je, da je, da je, da je, da je, da je, da je. je to nemajša odvijednog, da je genulijan, se je uvijednog, je uvijednog, da je liša da se svoje sve uvijednog nekaj nekaj nešto, da je vrlo, nije našto sve, da se nešto, da se nešto, da se nešto, da se nešto, da se nešto, On je fri njih kraju, je sve ljubi da će se neko mi staviti, i sam sve sve taj njećemo da nekako se neko se neko se neko se neko ne. Protoče se za taj pa je to svak. Ovrši nam je u vršim maču Klikbe, da je to svak, ali to je svak, da je uvrši. Prije se je naskola malo uvrštiracica! Ovo, to je uvrštiracica. No, baš, našto. Misliš? Misliššo u vršim... O, stav, vrštiracica progresiva. Are they obviously trying to backtrack on how progression or toac they want to be They obviously are pivoting at the very least to the center... I think that's extremely obvious now right? The rebrand kind of solidifies it...where it's like yeah we're mainstream. and it's like okay fine whatever... Mike, učište se superchat u J.Cassu. Ne, da vam dobro. Oh, da, da, sada. Isi je to? Ja, J.Cass u superchatu. Kako je najbolji punk band? Good Charlotte, Simple Plan, Bowling for Soup, AFI, Newfound Glory o Hawthorne. Simple Plan? Sve je to dobro, Mike. Kako to bane je to najbolji pop-punk band. Znaš, kako u Panku i Aficionado... Znaš, da je AFI. ...naš, Charlotte. Užiš, dobro, Bowling for Soup. Užiš, da je to ljude punke. Učiš, da je Olaja, našto. Ja, da, su Simple Plan. Užiš, da je to dobro. Učiliš je to, Mike, ali ne bilo, da je to je bait. A učiliš je je... A ja vidim, da je... Ja vidim, da je menešlje. A da sam sam, da... To je izgleda. Tvoja mnešla u kvaliti muzika, da ga sam daš. A kako je, ovdje, to je, ovdje, popy i corni. Ja se da, da se da, Good Charlotte, Simple Plan i Bolling for Soupi, je to dobro pop-banje, kako se je neko pop-punk. Ja se da, da se neko pop-punk. Učiliš je neko pop-punk. Učiliš je neko pop-punk. ...mačnije, poponk, AFI, pankbanje i Hawthorne hveće, da imam nekaj nešto uvijednog kategoriju Emo 2000-a. BeFoto je uvijednog uvijednog uvijednog uvijednog uvijednog uvijednog. It's so weird! I don't know why it is! Anyone to be able to join me ... join my youtube as a membership, if you don't want to do youtube, go to patreon.patreon.com slash mapinder. Yeah, I don't know why that's happening. Yeah, I don't have an explanation for that, either. That's just very weird. I think this one is you, I want to say. yeah saying i a, up the name of the app says super chat but can you check your messages in that one app that ends in eon yes i need to get i said when i got back this vacation i was at a sit down and organize all my membership stuff, figure it out get back to all the messages i need to get back to a lot of stuff it means to do try to work out what the bonuses im givu u members are so i givu u guy something im me i tried to make it clear that the membership is to support the content But I do wanna give you guys something for being members and you want that probably would help me grow the membership too. I wanna also clip more content, I'm thinking I might just have to bite the bullet and hire at least a part time editor to just get some more stuff out there so I can make more money. da se namožemo. Nadalim da se mužemo što je dobro. Stavimo svojte na ljubu. Sveam mne hrvostne suaporci, koje imam ljubu i imam i se načinu. Kako mi se peđeru na ovom ljubu, da ne moguš da se najvega akaciju dobro. Da se neću da se načinu, da se neće dobro da se dobro u vajstvu u svog uvidimu da se dažu te nekaj povijednih ljubu. Neću da se neću da se neću dobro. Da imam da se dažu. Sve ne znam u Rebeka, da se nekada ne znam. Mamo, da se dobro sve pravda. Sve nekada ne znam. Sada ne znam. Sada se ne znam, da se nekada ne znam. Felti, našto, nešto. Sve nekada ne znam. Sve nekada ne znam. Sve nekada ne znam. Sve nekada ne znam. Kako je to za mnog, Tera. Tera, dvijek. $5. couldn't go to the crystals in his ear having moved and he might need to go to the doctors to rely on them oh, yeah I've heard I've heard of this before where like Marry I'll equilibrium might need to be like, maybe it's thrown off, and there's something else that they can do about that I'm not 100% sure I sound like a stupid person trying to explain it But there might be something to do with your ears. For sure. For real? All right, I'll have to... Yeah. I might have to... I'm going to give it another date and then if not, I'll probably go to... Maybe over the weekend or something. I'll have to go. Yeah, you should. You shouldn't have to suffer with that. It's been... You know it's been long enough I think. I've seen some stories man. I'm nervous. Some people saying they've dealt with this for months. Some people saying this has been their life now for years. What? Yeah, it's bizarre. I don't think that's gonna be me. Cihlj, nisuš. To je sve malo, nekog radnog, odzor je zašto, ali to se nešto, učinj, nekog radnog, nekog radnog, nekog radnog. Zatim, neko je sreću, da se je bindrila, doČo je doČo, da je učinj, da je učinj, učinj, da je doČo, da je učinj, da je učinj, da je... da je učinj, da je doČo, da je doČo, da je učinj, da je učinj, Zat기�250 $20 dobro assemble Sam Reyk Brohnche Cpt Tech Feel free to pay Sam Reyk Kuji svakih njih, dio na svim import Ar Bit máme omlita Znači, 100% način, dobro. Otvore na mene. Jason P. s $20, dobro, Jason. Uživam drugu dologu u avatari. Znači, da je Boston Terrier? Znači, da je. Uživam to. Long time viewer, prvom čedru. Hvala da sam ti. Znači, da sam ti. Uživam, da sam ti. Uživam, da sam ti. Super chat, ne? Mat uživam. Uživam, da sam ti. Prvom možemo dobro. Uvijek i svojje dvije njih njih, je to možete da se dobro. To je vrlo dobro. Sve je lišo da se sve njište. Dvije, dvije. OK, znaš, da se to se. Ne, to je da je mi. Pravio, pravio. Pravio, kovališki. Ne znam da, pravio, pravio, kovališki. Znaš, da je kovališki. Prvio, da je mi dobro.  Znaš, da je, da je... Moje oči se stavili na tijera, tako da je njih. Završim u tijera. O možda, okay, smo počutili. Matt, učinajte. Završi, da je njih. Završim da je hljav, počutiti u srečje u srečje. OK, to je za ti. Andy, učinajte u srečje, kao možda, To je uznačivak, da je moja hvašlja nešto, tada sam uznačila dobro otvorila smo odga pa sam za kajom priježenju, na koji je to. Tako, skupu, da sam uznačila je srećna, da sam uznačila. I nije, da sam se nekaj otvarila. U njih njih njih nešto, da sam srećna hvašlja nešto, da sam uznačila. I da sam sam što, da sam kako ste na bođeru? to je i otvorilj, je da je ovo rovno. O, wow. OK. Da, to je broj. Da. Učanje, to je površanje na uvijedno. To je... ...na vrsta mnoj, življenje, neko joj vrsta mnoj, da je to. Da. O, ovaj je za mnogo, od Forest Dudley. A, odcelao Forest u monstru, i dobro se dobro možemo što je neko. Lada fridana, dobro kajno. Mike, da se vidno, da je bilo dvrši dvrši očinu, to je nekako se možeš počinu. Što je, Boris ješ ješo me svoje, da kako smo malo otvarili očinu očinu, da je nekako je otvarila očinu na Dunjens i Dragens, očinu na dvrši očinu. Učinu na Dunjens i Dragens, očinu na dvrši očinu. Učinu, je to je super spendi, da je, da nekako, 2199 do 1 oz, i je to da je 799 za 2-taj. Završam da je 799 za 8-taj, ali mislili mi se da je mišljavna konditioner, ali je to, da je to, da je to, da je to, da je to, da je to, da je to. Završam da se ne kako se možete, da je to, da se to. Sve je to. To je, bih je foto u superchatu, ali da smo početili Binder na boju. Pogledajte. Pogledajte možete se učiniti. Da. Ovo je. Angelo Henry s Blankovim Super Chatom. Prvom Super Chatom. Čekaj, Angelo. I to je. Ovo je. Učiniti. Ovo je. Učiniti. Učiniti. Učiniti. Povedatam da centerska. Učiniti. Učiniti. Učiniti. Učiniti. Učiniti. Partij partlyombostia. Undine do5. Učiniti! Učiniti. ...duš je tkovalo, da bila sam tijela ljudi... ...ma ne, da sam tijela ljudi da liće u Twitch... ...ma je to što se može... Marshal Getto, sve underti za svačan učinje... ...a Barbie priječali, pa nekaj nešto sam učinje... ...Marshal Getto, če sam znači da se svoje o Pewe Herman... ...nači ne sad ne svoje se liči da se sam znači... ...ma nekaj ne su se svoje o Pewe ljudi, ne? Da, tešte. ...ma nekaj ne da se da se svoje o Pewe Herman... ...načinje. ...nijednji. Uram se prijatelje o P-Way. To se stavila u me i Rebecca. Da, smo bili, da je se pedefile, ali to je začnili, da je nisu njih. A drugi smo prijatelje, da smo početiti, da je to da smo, da smo početili, da smo prijatelji. Ovo smo li, da smo flakali, da smo početili, da smo početili, dolega smo britati dvije kredom. To je, da. Solomon da je kralilo, nekaj je od 1.1. O kutu 4, da se njih možete. Ido se ti smo sve. Mjuz mob cheered one bit, thank you Mjuz mob, the secret word of the day is leftist. Frim is rated me earlier, thank you so much Frims. Valenova cheered 500 bits, free the emotes. I do have to add the emotes to the twitch, I will do that. Now that I'm back. Marshall Ghetto cheered 1,000 bits, y'all doin' the Lord's work, thank you so much. Valenova cheered 500 bits, did you see Kenneth Klippenstein trolled the UFO people to think he was fired tonight? They ran it as real on NewsNation, I did see that. Oh, he wasn't actually fired because I just saw that he said that he was let go. No, he didn't say let go. What was it that he actually said? Okay, that makes you feel better then because I wasn't aware that he was trolling. I'm not on Twitter as much, so I wasn't like privy to. By the way, this is a follow-up to Tara's message. She says benign pariximol political positional vertical occurs when tiny calcium crystals called adaconija come loose from their normal location on the utrical ascensory organ in the inner ear. So that's what she was referring to. Thank you for the follow-up, Tara. Ken tweeted, after three years, the intercept has let me go, dot, dot, dot. And then he followed it up right away with a follow-up tweet. And do a newsletter occasionally, which you can subscribe to here at kenklippenstein.com. Ah, okay. Clever man, clever man. He's always promoting that newsletter. I gotta, first of all, I gotta, this is the first thing I'm gonna do. I gotta relaunch my newsletter. That's a major part of my whole idea in the next phase of growing the stream and the podcasts. Okay, I have a couple of Twitch ones that I can get to. Adrian Vixen, thank you so much for the raid. Appreciate you. Abond V with 100 bits. Thank you so much. Space Robot Dragon with 100 bits as well. Appreciate that. And Prong 999 subscribed for one month at tier one, been a subscriber for 29 months, which is incredible because I have not streamed on Twitch in quite some time. So I appreciate everyone who's still a member over there. Oh, by the way, I'm 9 Twitch followers away from 5,000 Twitch followers. So twitch.tv slash Matt Binder. Let's see if I can get there by the end of Mike reading these. I'm trying to find a question. Here we go from John Ross. Thoughts on Rem. I can't name any songs, but Binder probably. You mean R-E-M? Oh, see. Wait, do they sing it's the end of the world that we know it? Yes. Is that them? Oh, I like that. Okay, well, you know what? I like that. I know about that song from the movie Independence Day. I like it a lot. Let's see here. Ocean Ramon says, oh, these guys are still going. That's incredible. Right? Binder's back. So we're back to doing long streams. We're back in four hours. Yeah, four hours. That's, you know, we're not at the five hour mark. There is a new super chat. Is there? For who? I believe this is for you. I want to say no. Oh, it is for me. Okay. Eight Twitch followers away. Let's do this. Come on. Come on, let's do it. More people on Twitch. Twitch.tv slash my Binder. Okay, L's with $2 Binder. How can I contact you about editing gig? Oh, if anyone, if anyone, some people have already said, some people, I mentioned it like offhandedly on my stream two weeks ago and like four people reached out with like their resumes and everything already. Wow. So I guess I should officially say, I'm serious about, it's not going to, please don't look at this as oh, you need a job, full time to, this would be like a freelance extra money type thing. If you're looking for something full time, I do not want to stray you the wrong way. I'm not even gonna say it could become, I don't want to be one of those guys. It's totally 100% freelance. It'd be a completely extra supplemental. So please understand that. If that's what you're looking for, feel free. You can DM me on Twitter at Matt Binder. You can email me matatxmattx.com. So matatxmatx.com is if I was a straight edge hardcore band. I will get an easier email address for business purposes. That's just my personal email. You can even message, someone messaged me on Instagram, same thing there at Matt Binder. However you feel like you want to get reach out to me, feel free to do so. A couple more comments I want to read here just because I did promise to go into the regular chat here, swarm of ants. Mike, my partner. Oh, we are one follower away from 5000 on Twitch, by the way. Just wanted to fill it out there. Oh, sure. Am I, yeah, I'm following you. Ok, I'm just making sure. Mike, my partner and I love your show. Don't stop doing what you do. I love how thoughtful and good faith you are. You also did a good job of not jumping. Do a good job of not jumping to conclusions. Thank you so much. Let's see here. What is Matt's first time seeing Peewee as a fellow fan? My dad introduced me to Peewee, or my mom. So I think it's my dad introduced me to Peewee when I was three years old. I was addicted to Peewee's playhouse at a very young age. I would watch it every Saturday morning. We had the complete Peewee's playhouse VHS box set when my siblings came along between seven to ten years after I was born. I remember watching it when I was a kid. I remember watching it with each of them. I remember watching the movies. I saw when Peewee had a small comeback in 2010 and brought his stage show, the Peewee Herman show to Broadway. The whole family went to see it because I was such a fan. In doing so, I turned them all into fans. When I was a kid, I had all the playhouse toy set, the actual playhouse playset. I would say that my sense of humor, my comedy style, if you want to call that when I'm funny comedy, mainly my personality, my sense of humor, things like that, I would say as a kid, it was highly formed by Peewee Herman as I got older, throwing Conan O'Brien into the mix. Those were some of my formative people in terms of me watching these people and taking in what they do, what they say, how they say it. Peewee Herman played a huge role in my life. We have another super chat, but I'll read this one here from Lonzeta. Hey, leftist mafia, you should have Joe Biden on the stream. I'll think about it.  I don't know. We'll see. I'll consider it. Hunter Biden is the real guy. I've got a lot of questions for him. Namely, hey, do you still have your hookups for drugs? No. OK, so my dogs are goth, sends in ATL or super chat for me. Can the hosts all see the chats in one? Yeah, we can see super chats on one side, but when we select super chats, then it blocks out the other chats, which is why we can only see one or the other, but we can individually choose which one that we see. And then we can see our own chats behind the scenes. I just learned this like a month or so ago when David and Matt taught me about it. So, yeah, we could do some pretty cool things here. Oh, by the way, I hit 5,000 on Twitch. My 5,000 follower was Melly Langy. Thank you so much. I hope I said your name right. Thank you, Melly. OK, so I already found somebody for us to rate on Twitch. We haven't rated him yet. Ah, that's a good one. He's great, yeah. Yeah, he's great. Love Actual Jake.  Let's do it. 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Okay. Welcome to the next talk. Today we have Pete DeVyre talking about building a six-legged robot named Zebro. Welcome, Pete. Well, thank you. So my name is Pete, and two months ago I received my Bachelor in Electrical Engineering from Delft University of Technology in the Netherlands. And for my Bachelor graduation project, I worked with a team of students that dedicates their time to building six-legged robots. And during this talk, I will do two things. First, I will look at why do we build six-legged robots. And secondly, we will look at some of the mistakes that my project team and I made while we were building one of these robots and look at how you can prevent of making the same mistakes. So why do we build these robots? To answer that question, it's useful to first look at what computer scientists have been doing for years. So they found out that if you look at the behavior of animals in nature, and then you model that behavior and change the model a little bit to suit your needs, then you can actually use this behavior to solve complex problems that you could perhaps otherwise not solve at all. And a great example of this is the traveling sales and algorithm that is based on the way that animals find the shortest parts between their nests and foods. And you can actually use that to solve the traveling salesman problem, a problem that is unsolvable by conventional algorithmics. So if you can do this with software, why wouldn't you also be able to do it with hardware? In fact, if you look at an ant, then you see that it's actually a really simple animal. It's much simpler than we are or pretty much all other animals are, but still it's able to traverse all kinds of terrains. So if you would build a robot and model it like an animal, like the robot on the right of the slides, would that robot also be able to traverse these terrains? Well, as you can see here, it actually can. So as you can see, some of these obstacles would be virtually impossible to pass with a robot of that size with wheels. And yet this robot just crawls right over it. So clearly doing this has a number of advantages, and therefore we have been experimenting with building this robot in different sizes. You have the one that we just saw in the video, which is about this big. And then we currently have two other models. We have the really big one that I've been working on for my bachelor graduation project that we'll talk about a little bit in this presentation. And then we have a very small one, this microphone. Thank you, that I have actually brought with me. And this one is actually small enough that you could easily let the child play with it. While the other really big one, I wouldn't dare to stand one meter close to it. And you see that it does. And you can see that it actually behaves in exactly the same way, and that it also works. So that this idea is in fact scalable. And yeah, so I will just leave that one on the table there. And I am probably going to regret saying this, but it has an unsecured Bluetooth interface. So have some fun. So now we found out why we want to build this thing. So now let's look at what problems you actually encounter with building these robots. And in fact, what problems you actually encounter when building something in more general. So the first problem that we had, and we have had this problem for a long time in the team, is that we were not using abstraction. And what I mean with that is that every time that a new student group would begin, we would ask them to build an entire robot. But building a robot is a large and complicated task. And students that join our team are typically only active for two to three months there for their graduation projects. And what would happen time and time again is that they would start building a robot. They would finish it up. Well, they would only finish half of it. And then they would go away. And then the next year, new students come in, and they look at the design plans. And they say, this is crap, we're going to build something new. And it's actually so bad that the beginning of my bachelor thesis was a list of five robots that every time it said, okay, so we started building this robot, but we didn't have enough time. And therefore, some other group started building a new robot. So what we decided to do instead was not asking students to build robots, but asking them to build a module. Because if you look at software design, you see that we've been using this approach all along. You build software libraries that then other people can use, or you build a class that is encapsulated and that can exist on its own. So why not do that with hardware and make a modular design with properly specified interface and good documentation? So that was problem one. Then problem two, having single points of failure. When you look at this, and you're a software or hardware engineer, you probably think, but it's actually more complex than that. It's not only about the engineering part, it's also about the logistical part. In our example, we ordered three different kinds of motors to build a robot, one from China, one from England, and one from Germany. And we ordered them three to four weeks before the actual start time of a project, because these things typically have some lead time. And one week before the start of the project, the Chinese motors arrived. One day before the start of the project, the English motors arrived. And two weeks after the start of the project, we still had not received any German motors. And at that two week mark, we got a call from them saying, okay, so we just received your motors, but you haven't paid the pro forma invoice yet.  But no, we have paid it a month and a half ago. And they said, no, you haven't. So I called up our finance department and I asked them, hey, could you please look up that invoice from one and a half months ago? And they responded with, what invoice? So it turns out that someone had forgotten to send an email with the invoice to the right person in the finance department. So I asked them, okay, well, this is a pro forma invoice and we have a short project. So we really need this part, could you please pay it as fast as possible? And they answered, yes, okay. But we only make payments on Tuesdays. So I answered, well, that's great because today is a Monday. And they answered, no, because this is actually a part from a new supplier. So we have to make a new entry in the system and we can only do that on Thursday nights. And then it takes a night before it actually gets updated. And then so on Thursday, I called them again and they say, okay, so we have made a new entry in the system but the person who actually has to approve this invoice is on a leave. And I asked them, who is their replacement? And they give me the name of the replacement and then turns out that the replacement is also on a pregnancy leave. And then I called the replacement of that replacement and they say, well, yes, okay, I can do it. But they have only changed the system today and it needs another night to become updated. In the end, I ended up calling the finance department for two weeks until someone at the front desk literally turned crazy and then finally they paid the invoice. So that was that. But in the meantime, we actually also had problems with the Chinese motors because when we started testing them, we found out that when they reached a certain temperature, they would use a lot of current for a very short amount of time and then use no current at all anymore and just stop working. So our mechanical engineers opened one of the motors up and what they found was this. And it is that the Chinese had used plastic gears in the last stage of the gearbox and when the motors would warm up, then the gears would slightly deform and would get destroyed by the metal gears. So this shows that if we would have only bought one or even two of the motors and we would have picked the wrong ones, then we would have had a serious problem because we only have 10 weeks for the project. So do not have single points of failure. Problem three. Okay. The red part is supposed to say debugging and the blue part is supposed to say coding or designing. So this is actually another good one. Test everything in advance. Never trust Microsoft Office. And what you would typically do is you would say, okay, when you plan a project, you say, okay, I will use 90% of time for planning and 10% of time for debugging. But then you do the project and you end up doing this. You spend 90% of your time debugging and 10% of your time programming. And these debugging moments will appear at the weirdest moments when you least expect them. For example, in our robot, we have a brush DC motor that is controlled by a custom PCB with a microcontroller on it that we make. And it has a number of sensor inputs. It has a current sensor. It has a temperature sensor that's connected to the motor. It has a voltage sensor. And when we tested everything separately, it all worked. So we said, okay, let's throw it all together. We hooked everything up. We started it. And it also worked for 30 seconds. And then we started it and it worked again for three minutes. And when we kept doing this, it would actually keep doing this. It would randomly work for somewhere between 10 seconds and one hour. And, in fact, the microcontroller would completely hang or debug interfaces would not respond anymore. So we had no way of seeing what was going on. Does anyone care to take a guess about what was going on? Yeah, maybe? No. What was actually happening is that the motors that we're using were making so much electromagnetic interference that the i-squared sea bus was picking up weird signals which caused the controller and the microcontroller to do something that we would have never imagined possible. And just keep generating interrupts which caused the microcontroller to just keep handling that interrupt time or that interrupt routine and having no time to react to what we wanted. So does anybody want to take a guess at how long it took us to find this out? No, luckily not. But it did take us two and a half days and a weekend. And when you only have a 10-week project, that's a lot of time. And this is not the only case where this has happened. So that was problem three. Problem four, not having a decent test setup. When you're building a project like this, your desk will unavoidably end up looking like this. And it is very tempting to just throw away a quick debug setup because you think that testing will only take five minutes and then you're done with it. It will not. So when you're building a debug setup, you really have to take great care at both hardware and software. For hardware, you can do simple things. For example, when you're connecting two pieces of or two PCBs, make a proper cable. Don't just duct tape it together because when you do duct tape it and it doesn't work, you will have no way of knowing whether it's the cable that broke or gave a bad contact or whether something is actually genuinely wrong. And for the software, especially when you're programming microcontrollers, you have no printf statements, unfortunately. So you have to roll your own solution. And when you do that, you have to do it as thoroughly as possible because one hour of writing a debug tool will save you a week of debug time. For example, you see that we have a graphical application here that will actually show live output data of the debug data coming from the microcontroller. And before we had it, we had this. We had been spending a couple of days trying to debug data that was coming from magnetic field sensors that we were using to determine the position of the robot legs. And we just kept having bugs. And then the weekend came along and I wrote this application and by Monday at noon the problem was fixed. So make decent debug tools. It will pay off. So number five, only having a plan A. When we look at this robot that's on the table, then the way that we get feedback from the position of the robot is we have a magnetic field sensor here and we have a magnet in the wheels or in the legs. And every time you make a rotation, you can detect a peak and see, okay, now I know where the leg is. So we thought, okay, if we can do that on this robot, we can also do it on our big one. And we actually used tree hull sensors and eight magnets. So we had 24 positions. But when we tried to make it walk like that, it did this. That is not the direction it is supposed to go. So we were lucky because we had actually factored in that this might happen. And on the PCB that you see on the right, there's actually a port for industry standard rotational encoders on the primary axis. But if it would have not have done this, then that would have meant that we would have to roll a new PCB, that we would have to order a new PCB, that we would have to solder a new PCB and that we would have to debug a new PCB. All of this would take you at least two to three weeks and cost you hundreds of dollars. While when you're designing this PCB, it's maybe half an hour of extra work to just connect a couple of more pins to the microcontroller and put it on some external pins. And what we also learned by this is that there's actually a reason that rotational encoders are an industry standard. So, yeah. So these were five problems that we encountered. I'll sum them up again. Not using abstraction, having a single point of failure, bad planning, not having a decent debug setup, and only having a plan A. And if you want to avoid those, you should do the following. Build a module, not a robot, prevent single points of failures, factor in debugging, make proper debug tools, and have a plan B. Thank you. Thanks very much, Pete. I think we've got a couple of minutes for some questions.  So anyone have any questions? Yes. Hi.  Did that cause any problems between you and the other people in your project that you also had to overcome? Could you repeat the question, please? So did the technical problems you run into cause a bit of friction and make it more difficult to work with the people that you're working with? Yes, actually it does, because when, for example, a person has been debugging on a problem for a couple of days, then you really start to develop this tunnel vision. And all you can think about is this problem. And it has happened sometimes that someone else comes along, take a look at the problem, or makes a new system parallel to it, and gets it to work in a couple of hours. So that can be quite confronting, but I think it's important that as a team that you manage to deal with this, because in the end you all want the same thing. And the way that you get there should not really matter, and it should not be about personal pride. Any other questions? All right, doesn't look like there's any other questions. So I'm sure you can probably come up and have a look at the robot, probably outside if you've got a space to put it out there somewhere that people can come and have a look. Can you join me in thanking Pete for his great talk?