Welcome back to the trade hacker mindset in this episode We're gonna take a quick break from the topics from the Mark Douglas book trading in the zone we had a live stream on Thursday, April 1st and just kind of off the cuff got into a conversation about working through drawdowns Mindset and why navigation trading exists. I thought it was important to share this with everyone So we're gonna queue up the intro and when we come back, you're gonna hear the audio from that live stream Trading the markets can be difficult to master and seemingly just out of reach Professional traders have a secret trading requires total mental and emotional control. It requires the trade hacker mindset I don't know if you guys all saw my kind of recap video yesterday when I was talking about Amazon You know, it's two days in a row. I let what should have been just manageable losses two days ago in Tesla and then yesterday and Amazon just turn into big losses and so I'm really kind of Refocusing on getting out of you know, hey I just you know, sometimes when you when you just get on a roll and you start making money You kind of get that, you know, we talked about in the podcast We taught and mark Douglas talks about in his book you get in that state of euphoria Where you kind of think that everything you touch turns to gold and so you kind of stop following your your rules, you know in Amazon You know touched on how You know yesterday, we're gonna we're in a mighty 90 trade and I was going against this. Well, we got two bars pullback I should have been out there. I would have had about a $300 loss on the trade overall instead I just let it go and ended up turning into an $1,800 loss You know, so things like that, you know, you guys may have seen Chad's video, too He's he's he's on a hiatus. He's taking a break and you know, he had he had like a $2,200 loss in Amazon So when you get into a funk like he was in he shouldn't be trading Amazon to begin with it's just too big of a product But just FYI and I'm kind of refocusing on making sure that I'm cutting losses quicker and Following the rules on getting out So Krish, yeah, I mean I think I Mean I'm kind of hard on myself when I do stuff like that a because I Hate losing so, you know, that's my ego talking But B and I think I mean really what's more important to me is, you know I'm trying to teach you all how to trade and if I'm not following the rules That's gonna give you all kind of a green light to potentially go against the rules as well And so I'm really I get really frustrated with myself For that day. So yesterday, you know, this you know, just a lot of Self-awareness a lot of thinking through things Thinking why did I make those decisions? And that's why I kind of came back to the point I just made about I've been on a pretty good streak Started kind of getting a little loose with my rules and you know that kind of thing And so as you know, I was just kind of hard on myself But then at the end of the day if you continue to have those that negativity those negative thoughts About your trading about your about yourself. It's going to negatively affect your trading So at that point, you know, once I kind of got through that mental process Then it's over then it's just let's go. Let's move on. Let's play by the rules and let's Forget about it. And so that's that's kind of how I for me. That's how I have to do it You know, I kind of find I get my I find myself getting into that situation mentally Probably once a month, which is which is still too much, but that's how I work through it There's really a balance between kind of punishing yourself, but not judging yourself too harshly I believe and everybody's obviously different. I mean, like I said, that's the way that I deal with it That's the way that I think I handle it best and it Keeps me doing what I'm supposed to do the in the best possible way if that makes sense Yeah, exactly doc B And you know, you start you start fiddling with the you know, you start getting loose on on the rules Then it's like well and and here's the biggest thing is you get loose on the rules You let and this has happened and so I know this was part of the process is I think it was Well, it was over the last couple weeks where I would I let a trade go too long Yeah, I let a loser go against me too much and it came back and ended up being a winner Well, that that's the worst thing that can happen. You broke your rules and the trade worked out now You're now you now you're done, you know, that that sends you into a Spiral of okay, I can break the rules and still make money and then then you're screwed, you know Then you start putting on bigger size and then the whole euphoria everything I touched turns to gold situation And then you're then you put on some big size and it slaps you I mean the good news is I'm very good about keeping my position size and check so You know an $1,800 loss in a big picture of things is not it not a big deal But still hurts when you when it happens. Yeah, and I think I'm gonna have a talk with Chad today You know, I don't know if you guys listen to this video, but just and this is not anything bad I'm not trying to say anything negative about Chad But I you know, I noticed just in some of the videos from his tone from some of the things he says, you know from yesterday He said, you know, I'm following the strategy. It's going against me. It's not the mindset mindset. It's not the problem You know, I've I've read Mark Douglas book again. So it's not the mindset. Well, it's it's 100% his mindset I mean it really is I'm gonna go ahead and get out of my last Airbnb here Filled at $5 and 16 cents closed out my last Airbnb So yeah, I mean, I I think there's a lot more to it and we had a conversation a couple weeks ago and when he was having a little bit of a Losing streak and I said, you know, here's what I do when I find myself in your situation is one Scale down your position size to almost nothing, right? I like to trade multiple contracts So just trade lower price symbols Well, you know, maybe do two contracts at the most or even even one and then I talked about, you know Re-evaluating the mindset, you know going through the podcast going through the Mark Douglas stuff and really trying to focus on those two things First, you know a that anything can happen at any time in the market, right? So we know over time our strategies produce a consistent profitable result But there are gonna be times when it they're gonna be drawdowns every single strategy has a drawdown and so He's like, yeah, okay, you know he agreed and and then the next day he's trading Tesla and Amazon.  I mean listen I've in my early days of trading, you know how many times I quit a lot Okay, I Quit a lot. I quit. I think the most the longest I ever quit four was six months But I quit a lot and that was just a totally different ballgame. I was trading futures with five or ten thousand dollar account I was an idiot when I was younger, but so it you know, it's it's part of the process I mean, I you know, I've said this before in different videos or things I wasn't consistently profitable for my first ten years trading ten years I got you know, I'd have years where I'd make money I'd have definitely, you know weeks months where I'd make, you know, really good money But I'd have periods where I'd give it all back to you know So I was just it was a roller coaster ride and a lot of it had to do with my position size Versus the account I was trading which is just ridiculous, but it wasn't it really wasn't until I Really internalized a lot of the the methodology in Mark Douglas's books that I turned that corner and Started becoming consistently profitable year after year and that's why I'm so passionate about that And that's why I'm that's the whole basis of why we're doing that podcast is because I think it's so critical You know, you get traders who jump from strategy to strategy or methodology to methodology or trading futures and then options and stocks and you know everything else and They continue to or they you know try different strategy or they find this different indicator Or they find some other tool that they think is the answer and none of those are ever the answer The answer is always between your ears the answer is always your mental capacity in your decision-making process when you're trading and So that's you know the whole the whole basis of what? Help me turn the corner in consistent profitability. And so that's why I'm really impassioned about sharing that with you guys Well, I got no trades on my friends Booked 1,000 318 on the day. So that's good Got back everything from yesterday Still down a little bit on the week, but I'll take it So well, you know when chatter in this video yesterday when he is saying come to the book You know the mindset book again, so it's not the mindset Well, and I'll have this conversation with him But I think it's maybe he's mistaking what what we're talking about mindset, you know, we're not talking about just hey I got to be positive, you know, that's positive attitudes a big deal But part of the mindset is How and why you're making the decisions on your trades that you are right? I mean we try to set these rules so that they're you know, there's some very specific criteria But as you guys know as you're placing these trades There's a little bit of subjectivity in there that can make a huge difference And so part of the mindset is what's going on in your mind when you're making the trading decisions that you're making Right, I'm on a losing streak Well, but Amazon it looks so good that setup looks so good I'm just gonna I'm just gonna get in this time because it It's got to be a winner. It looks it looks so good. Well The market can do anything at any time, right? One of the things that Mark Douglas talks about in his book is Just because a similar pattern represents itself on a chart Doesn't mean anything because it's not the exact same participants that were in the market the last time that that pattern showed up, right? So things can happen and so on a trade individual trade a trade basis Anything can happen But that has nothing to do with the fact that you can still be consistently profitable over time because if you have a strategy That's consistently profitable like we do Then we know and that's that's also why it's so important to track when I open up and I Update my spreadsheet today, you know, I'll see that. Hey since the end of august last year We're up almost $60,000 on these day trades year to date. We're up like $20,000. So the fact that I don't I haven't calculated yet. I'm not sure what we're down on the week. Maybe I don't know a thousand two thousand bucks Whatever it is That's irrelevant. You know those the fact that I had two days where I didn't follow the rules And I lost Money, you know, that has nothing to do with the long-term consistency And in getting back into the flow of what I should be doing and that is following the rules Having the proper mindset Not taking such a too much of a recency bias, you know, I could have come in today After two days losing in a row And then and when I was taking trades, it's been, you know, so scared to scared to enter right deer in the headlights I don't know this one kind of looks like one we did yesterday and You know that that I took a loss on that one. So I'm not going to enter this one Well, you can't you can't do that every single trade Has a probabilistic outcome. So every single there's no guarantee in any one individual trade If you're just playing the probabilities, you've got to think in probabilities when you're trading and I'm I'm saying this to you all from an aspect of I'm saying it to myself too, right? I'm not perfect at that either I still have that recency bias Where I will you know, the last few trades or the last few days will have an effect on my decision-making process And the degree that you can get through that Is the degree that you will become more consistently profitable. So my my profits are pretty consistent, but I That's that's just it's still not good enough for me I you know, I think I think we can take this thing to a whole new level of consistency Part of that has to do with just your decision-making process your mindset And so that's what you know going back to what I said before that's kind of what frustrates me about when I do something stupid Like I did in tesla or amazon the last couple days is You know, I need to be I need to be that example for you all because if you see me do it then you think oh He did he kind of broke his own rule. So, you know, so I can do that And I don't want to set that tone. I think follow the rules Have the proper mindset You're gonna have drawdowns, but here's here's the problem is if you Don't have consistent rules that you follow or if you're loose with your rules if you break your rules When you get into a drawdown, you don't know how to fix it if you have Consistent rules that you follow Every single day. I'm gonna follow these rules.   So I hope this is uh, I hope this conversation is a little bit helpful to At least one person if it is I think I've done my job here because that's You know, I don't know I don't really talk about this because I don't think it's relevant But when we first started navigation trading the whole basis of it was a I was making You know really nice profits and I wanted to share that with people, you know I I'd see people, you know meeting with their advisors and you know talking about their 60 40 mutual fund portfolio and You know these mediocre returns that they're getting they're paying fees and not even beating the the indices and and i'm just like Oh man, I made 200% last year You know the kind of kind of thing and and so I was like I got to teach people how to do this So that's number one And then number two sometimes when a member is wanting to join or has been a member and they quit or something like that They'll I don't know I can't think of an example, but they'll they'll make a comment and i'm just like I I just did my taxes and the revenue that I generate from navigation trading from from memberships Is 5% Of my total revenue 5% so I'm not saying this. I hope this doesn't come off as condescending or you know, I'm not trying to try to be a dick or anything like that But I don't do this for the revenue that the the membership that you guys pay I don't I don't do this for the revenue because it's a very minor Point of my overall revenue from other, you know businesses that I own from real estate from my trading profits and everything else I literally wake up in the morning because I love Hearing the stories that you guys tell me I love when I get an email good example because you guys know him so Tim weiss right who's who's doing the red stuff? He was originally a member is how we is how we originally met He took one of our strategies kind of our weekly double calendar He modified it what he calls revised and enhanced it into the double diagonal that he trades now the red strategy and and he he was able to Generate 250% return last year in the face of the worst pandemic that we've ever faced Move him and his wife to hawaii by a house In hawaii I mean that kind of stuff just that fires me up and that's and that's a that's a really cool story But I also get the stories of you know a guy who Started trading and he all he does is is he like trades iron ducks and in one other strategy and he was he was in a position of couldn't pay his medical bills And through the profits that he generated from the strategies that we taught him He was able to pay his medical bills. So things like that. I mean, that's that's why We get up in the morning and and do this and tim weiss talked about this to you in his presentation that we did is Trading's lonely, right? Like when I first started trading. I was so excited. I loved it It's just you know when when you're a trader like we are it's just it's in your DNA It's part of who you are And it just it's we just love it, right? And so when I started trying to share this with friends and family Everybody was just like, okay, cool. And I was just like, don't you get it? Don't you see how awesome this is we can you know generate returns better than hedge funds better than all these man money managers and you know, I'm just fired up about it and Nobody got it right go back to the whole deer in the headlights thing I had Dear in the headlights for my friends and family on I couldn't understand why they weren't as fired up as me You know, so I needed To to create this community. So it was more fun to trade You know, like I mean my people You all are my people and so that you know that that's another reason that we that we did this But people who don't trade they don't get it, right? I mean, I'm sure you all have tried to do the same thing. You've tried to explain selling premium and implied volatility and Options and oh, it's a it's a derivative of the actual stock and you know Try to explain it to people and they're just like, I don't I don't know I don't get it no interest You know that kind of thing If you don't have a group of people if you don't have people around you That are like-minded that are kind of focused on the same thing. It's very it's very difficult to be successful and so you know selfishly navigation trading has Helped Hey from an account an accountability standpoint I mean, that's why I do these live streams with the day trading is from an accountability standpoint Because if I was doing it on my own, I'm even more susceptible to breaking the rules, right? And then, you know, obviously the the alerts and everything else So having that community of people was was a big passion of mine to kind of create like-minded traders that we could interact with and Discuss with share ideas with and we've come up with trading strategies just from communication through the through the community and seeing what somebody else is doing and be like, oh, wow You know, that that's cool. I never even thought about that Let's combine this with this and then when you know, it creates a real It really starts to generate some some cool stuff by the way speaking of ideas and new strategies. I've been working on one that kind of is a It's kind of a combination of a skewed iron condor with a with a double diagonal that kind of helps Hedge the downside risk as well as hedge against the volatility crush that I'm going to be I'm still testing but It's uh, so far is testing out very well. So I Can't wait to share that with you all Doc B. I once had a mentor yell at me in a nice way for sulking in a semi-big loss But he made a point that really stuck Stop thinking of losses as bad and profits as good. I like that Start thinking of losses and profits as part of the game part of the job part of the breathing Yeah, trading is a numbers game If you can that that was that was one of the other kind of mental shifts that I made is When I was when I was first doing I was I was so focused on making money You know generating an income generating a certain amount per month and that kind of thing And when I when I let that go and I just started treating trading like a game like a numbers game That that was a big shift as well All right, so that's the end of the audio from the live stream that we did during our day trading session on Thursday, April 1st I hope that was helpful in helping you understand some of the mindset tactics That we use to help you work through a drawdown and you got some helpful information out of that If you want to be part of the navigation trading community, we call it the trade hacker community It's free to join. Just go to community dot navigation trading dot com It's full of traders interacting every day talking about not only the mindset aspect But sharing trade ideas with the sole goal of helping each other Become better traders. Just go to community dot navigation trading dot com We'll see you on the inside and we'll see you in the next episode


Well, digital asset news or Dan for short. My name is Robin today. I'm gonna do a little bit something different I need to bring in more people that of course who are smarter than me and can actually give me some really great information And one of those people that I reach out to was Tom crown and Tom. I want to say thanks so much for accepting the invite Hey, man. Thanks for having me on Dan. I let me know when you find someone smarter than you to have on I'd love to have them on too That's a good one. So we don't know Tom's got his own his own night YouTube channel He's also pretty active on Twitter. I think that's a pretty great guess and does a lot of great things and one of the things I like about Mr. Crown here is that he doesn't go too heavy or heavy at all into the hype It's mostly just kind of like my material where I give it to you straight sometimes It's you know the things that you'd want to hear but most of times is just the reality of the situation So Tom want to say it first of all Thanks for doing those types of things and talking and just making things simple for trading I'm not a trader. So it is interesting to watch your content Yeah, as soon as I saw your content I put it, you know connected the dots and I said man We have a lot in common here just the rhetoric you were using and honestly even just the tone in which you speak during your Livestreams, it's definitely something I strive for as well because I think that's really important to the viewers If we're freaking out, they're probably freaking out even if there's nothing to freak out about So we're I like to be a voice of reason. I think you do. Yeah, well, perfect This would actually bring me to my questions first and foremost. We're gonna go over them. Let's see first Tom Who are you? How'd you get into crypto and who is your information for a second thing? I want to talk about is the market. It's down I want to just get your quick opinion about where we're going 2023 What's your strategy here as a trader because I gotta tell you you guys your traders can feed me There's all these different types and then next to last I want to have you critique my exit strategy I did a video not too long ago where I talked about the things that I'm looking for when during the next bull run and how I can maximize Those exits and those profits and then finally finally, let's go over some final thoughts on them And I think this is the biggest part the mental aspect of trading because it's very easy To quote-unquote buy the dip and and buy a little bit and then maybe take a little profit But the mental aspect to really get into it. So the first things first Tom tells who you are How you got into crypto and who is this information for? Who am I? I'm just a normal dude. You know, I worked to nine to five. I did sales. I Went to school for political science. I was really into politics not politics, but government the structure sure and Leaving college. I found that everything was kind of an illusion You know democracy wasn't really how it was presented to me things weren't really the way that I thought in the world and I found myself with very little belief and I just stumbled across cryptocurrency probably in the same way many people do and I Got obsessed with it. It just clicked. I said this is you know, it clicked voting voting should be done on a blockchain This is what it seems to be for This is like the solution to so many of the questions that I I felt weren't really true And so I was in sales and I got laid off and I had unemployment and for the first time in my life You know I'd gone from school to school to school to work job job job I got to sit there and say what do I want to do and the answer was obvious I wanted to do you know, I'm a Bitcoin maximalist. I a little bit different than what you might think don't judge me But I can't apply to Bitcoin right? I can't say hey Bitcoin give me a job And so I kind of came up with what if I just started streaming because I see a lot of content on YouTube and on the internet and there wasn't quite as much then but That I didn't really feel helped the viewer it didn't really help share At least my passion it kind of didn't set them up for success and I thought maybe I could help fill that niche And here I am almost four years later. It's working somehow. I don't know. Yeah, well, I mean that's good It's good. You're doing that the non-hyper up But so to move on just a little bit like who is your information for like like for me I kind of get into I make Things bite-sized pieces. I try to break it down from the complex as simple as best I can give people information as far as the news and kind of Lead them down the path of what I am doing so they can make their own decision for the best choice for them So Tom for your channel, who is this for? Yeah, well if we look at my demographics people very similar to myself kind of 24 to 35 guys in the US UK Who's it really for it's for people who are crypto curious a lot of my content is a little too My trading content can be a little complex for people who haven't traded before I have put out some shorts recently that help address that and fill the gap They're way more friendly to beginners, but really you know people curious about crypto and I Do a lot of trading content because it's it's stuff to watch, you know while I'm live I can do things it doesn't reflect my personal strategy Completely it is a good bit for content, but I think anyone you know, where do you go to learn about trading? There's really isn't trading school. You can't go to it in college And so I actually learned a lot of my stuff by watching other people do things live And I think anyone that's interested in learning a little bit more about trading Probably good content for you. Yeah, and like I will tell you this I don't do the shorts we talked about this as far as the videos themselves But like we were talking about beforehand like this one right here Like you break it down to the most basic principles kind of like what I do myself as far as like for trading Like just take a just take a watch of this. There are two ways to enter a trade A limit order is used when you're not available to monitor the charts limit orders allow you to simply set it and forget it However, these can cause losses if executed without confirmation A market entry can be a more conservative way of entering trades as you can see the price action in real time When price has tagged your point of interest you want to drop down to a lower time frame and wait for a shift in market structure You can then enter based on a newly created order block that created a shift in market structure This can provide you a higher probability of the trade working in your favor So yeah, so like like stuff like that makes things very super simple and I can appreciate that especially for the new Person who's getting into crypto and going well, what is you know, should I Leverage myself 1500x and maybe should I put all my money into it or maybe just do something like this So that kind of asks those questions in the shorts. I like those.  So where what do you think we're going in 2023? I Saw one of your recent live videos. He had go solo way on I believe he thinks that we can go to 12 13k Bitcoin I think his worst-case scenario might be 5k or something like that But where are we going from here and then also what's your strategy moving forward? Yeah, well, there's definitely many approaches something I want to point out So in that short, it said, you know, higher probability Trading is not magical. It doesn't see the future. There's there's no magic bullet. It's all about probability And so when we were talking at me and Gareth about lower lows and There's always a probability of pretty much any number that you can imagine the scary ones tend to come true in both directions and Where we are right now in the market Does not look so strong. You know, we we hit 15.5k I don't really see a reason that the market would stop there. However, markets aren't always rational So I am even looking at that 13-8 level. That's a really solid support. It was Resistance in 2019 when we rallied up off of 3,100 low price rejected there. It's a good spot to look for support But into the next year, you know, we don't know how long these things could take that could that could resolve by the time The video comes out or you know, it could happen in a year Timing is something that I really stray away from because it's very difficult. I don't really see kind of positive market action At least at this moment coming I think it internet like maybe at the start of next year is the earliest unless we see a major pivot from the Fed or Maybe Congress in the US signs into existence a bunch of money There doesn't really seem to be any super strong catalysts at the moment So I'm not looking for a really strong quarter four here without, you know, the exception of some kind of white swan We've had enough black swans. I invite the white swans in we like all the kinds of swans here But of course, you know lower lower than that is possible as well. I'd be looking at 10 5 I don't I really am skeptical the price will go lower than that. However, I will admit when I'm wrong I thought the bottom was in at least twice, you know since last year and I've been wrong So it's all about probability and I think when we get to kind of how we might approach that I think you're gonna really vibe with with what I would say as well Yeah, you know what it's a good point we brought up about, you know being wrong and The bottom we just did a show today DCA with Ben and James from best answers in the cryptiverse and one of the things I talked about was I Never thought the bottom was in in June, but I thought it was wasn't in for a different reason I thought it was macro events. I thought it was the Fed not pivoting. I thought it was war in Ukraine I thought it was the supply chain issues. I did not see FTX totally being the biggest rug pole and birdie made-off type of play in in history So I couldn't see that I was I was correct, but it wasn't correct for for the right reasons So to me what that says is that on this one?  We will welcome some white swans because we haven't had so many but again So hard to know and that's what what you talk about as far as probabilities. I think with trading which makes a lot more sense Uh and then for this one The next part here So you say maybe 10-5 maybe 13-2, okay We know the market's awful right now. Let's look forward into what I think is the next Bull market I have learned my lesson to not do a any kind of price predictions because those are I am I think I'm shooting 25% accuracy on that one. That's not bad. That's not that's not bad But let me tell you I had some pretty bad calls. I thought Bitcoin was 150k I thought if they're gonna go to 10k those did not play out too well Yeah, I thought higher you're you're in the more realm of actually happened I was thinking higher well, you know, I might jump into this even though this isn't really our question Um, sure I looked at the past cycles and I said, all right. I'm gonna look I had a whole chart And it was like well bottom to bottom we saw this increase and top to top We saw this increase and I kind of compared them. We really only had what maybe three full cycles I guess now four and so my projections were based on what the data we had And so I kind of compared them maybe subtracted a little off the top and I was looking for like 300 000 I was I was looking high uh the 69 top really took me off guard and I learned a lesson here too is Looking back obviously the past isn't the predictor of the future Yeah, but Maybe kind of all these assumptions that we have I think I'm still in the four year cycle boat But I think that as time goes on we're gonna find everything that we know to be true about price is probably gonna end up being false I think that this cycle was unlike anything we've seen before And not really in a good way actually when it comes to price action at least in adoption. Yes, but not not so much in price Yeah, I have to agree who I mean There was very few people like that saw through the ftx Facade and actually saw for what it was. So for them, I gotta give my hat tip my hat to them Go it's amazing that these things were seen because there was so many different people And it's the same people that are actually also were calling for I mean monstrous blow-off top rallies For for crypto and digital assets. So again, we'll see how it all works out But this would lead me to my my question about my exit strategy So I am not smart enough to figure out the absolute top or the absolute bottoms nor am I no stradamus So I figured to myself I should just play probabilities And look at a couple of different factors and I put out this video not too long ago. It was looking right here It was when and why i'm selling 80 percent of all my crypto and you're looking at this right now over on The website dan teaches crypto. Everybody knows it's 100 for a on to tell them, but on this one It's uh, it's rather lengthy for me over 30 minutes and I talk about the things i'm looking at As far as pi cycle top and upl well multiple mv rv z score and different things So tom what I had you did do was to review it Before we actually came on and I need you to critique it and tell me where there are faults in there And how you would correct those faults to make it uh more comprehensive and better Absolutely, I I watched the whole thing more than once actually was a very solid video So I don't have that many critiques. So instead or when I don't have them I'll fill them in with kind of The alignment of our thinking and it starts with your dogecoin millionaire example And I love it because this is almost it almost seems like you made this video for me dan and I appreciate it Not a millionaire, but I uh, I've been in the crypto space a long time and I Had some doge and it wasn't a crazy amount of doge. Um, I think maybe I invested 150 or 200 in it a few years ago And I witnessed, you know, what the dogecoin millionaire witnessed I saw that turn into six figures to deep six figures And like you, of course, I don't know the bottom and I don't know the top And in fact, I don't really believe people can know those things. And so you're gonna love this Um I trade or I trade against bitcoin Mostly, but I guess for this example, I can use it in dollars just to make it simpler maybe for people watching Um, so I accepted I don't know the top and no one no one can And so what can we do to make sure that we still sell the top that sounds like a loaded question? But it is possible. The answer might not be satisfying Uh, what I did is I essentially took small pieces of my doge and I set limit sell orders Up every increment. Uh, I did it against bitcoin. So it was in sats. I did it every 50 sats I had a small sell order. So I get to say I did sell the top Uh, I didn't sell all of it at the top, you know, I sold a small amount But I also sold a small amount all the way up and it's a really easy strategy for trading is you find your cost average And you can simply just layer selling orders above your cost average if they fill, you know, you're in profit If they don't you're sitting there holding the bag Um, and I did I held I held that bag for I want to say two and a half years maybe more So this was not overnight Um, but I I put myself in my favorite position, which is a win-win position So as doge continued to go up I continued to fill selling orders And then when it stopped going up I was okay. I still had some doge left in case, you know, it exploded even higher I wasn't going to be like, oh no, I did the wrong thing I have to throw my money in and then end up getting wrecked on that side And as it came down, I felt nothing. I felt no fear. I felt no anxiety because I had already taken out At least 10 fold what I had put in and that's an extreme example, of course That that's a very lucky example that took, you know, many years to unfold and complete But that's really my my take on most trading in general and my content might go against that because as I said That is content I do because you can do it in real time Something like this doge trade took years. I couldn't do that in a live stream But that's the majority of my trading is very kind of slow swing trades And I use mostly just limit orders and sometimes they'll sit there for years Sometimes they are still sitting there for years and maybe they'll never fill But I really liked that you used the doge example because I Stuck to my rules. I did it. I made a good profit. I still have some doge And I'm happy either way, you know, if it never goes up again, I'm good And if it does I still have some I can ride that on and be happy And that brings us to kind of the second point in your video, which is Define your type and know your exit. So what I like about that strategy is Your exits can really just be incremental almost robotic, you know, you could say every thousand dollars down And this isn't financial advice, but I'm going to buy x amount of bitcoin every thousand dollars lower it goes Well numbers eventually reach zero, right? You can't go negative and so that defines it for you You need to accept that well, some of these may never fill you'll be surprised They do end up filling even the ones you don't think but It allows you really to take the time preference off the table and stick just to the math of it And that's a concept that's really done well for me over the years And that even lines up with your dca examples because that isn't dca based on time Which is the typical dca, which I think is a great approach in general But that's dca on price and so it's really just a little twist on that time You know time proven method of dollar cost averaging You're just choosing a price instead of a time and at the end of the day if you have orders that never fill Basically, you just go cancel them and you've lost a little bit of money for the opportunity cost But you basically You know just get your dollars back and maybe you're upset you didn't quite get as much as you wanted But that's that is the most successful strategy I've ever encountered in crypto and it really does take the in the moment kind of panic or fomo feelings off And I think anytime you do that you're setting yourself up for success Excellent excellent response. So so there's two questions that I have so let's talk about the cost basis Let's really dig down into it. So for your cost basis I know a lot of people have this this issue too is For your do you have a specific program that you use for trading that tells you the cost basis like tom look You bought You know dogecoin to at most of it was at a penny and then some was at a dime So now you're like around fit five cents if you sell it around six cents You're you know pretty much in the money Is there some kind of program that you use or is it all in spreadsheets? So you can absolutely do it on a spreadsheet. I think that that you know, it's what you're comfortable with You can definitely do it on a spreadsheet that would take a lot of manual entry. Exactly. There are many There's many software programs out there. I don't want to like really push one I use just coin tracking dot info. They don't pay me or anything There's many of them some are free some are premium I like that one. I pay for the premium because I can do api uploads so it'll Track my trades on the exchanges I put in it can even like track wallet movements I do it's more important that you keep track of it. It doesn't really matter the method But it's important that you keep track of it because if you don't know your cost basis You can't know if you're in profit or if you're in a loss and that's like people skip over a lot I think that that's actually something that should be driven home more is keeping accurate accounts is very important to creating a plan Yeah, and I gotta agree with you. So I'm gonna show everybody coin tracking that info me and tom did not get paid for this There is no affiliate link. I'm not even gonna put the link in there. You got to find it yourself Yeah, you got to find it I'm kind of tracking that info and you know there you go. That's what it looks like So you don't get uh go to the wrong place But so that that was my first one. Thank you that makes a lot of sense The second one is this with the things that are going on with the exchanges I get this question a lot which is rob I'm scared to leave anything on the exchanges But I have to because I have to execute these orders Is there a way to get around this or is it just like I got to leave it on there Or do you to say well? I leave a little bit to get an alert and then I kind of transfer over and do something else Or how do you how can you do it tom? Absolutely Yeah, this is gonna be different for everyone But right for myself about once a year.  I can't remember the name of it. The Vatican does something similar. I think every seven years I just did it. I can't remember the name of it. I wish I did because that'd be really smart comment I bring everything back to my wall. Yeah So that is a problem and anytime you have assets on on an exchange You have to be aware of the risk and you have to factor that in Right now specifically today. My risk tolerance is way down If I had to have any kind of assets on exchange, which I do have some like trading bags Um, I would definitely though steer away really from like holding ever on on an exchange Um, but from things that aren't really kyc'd like I would you know, I'd go with kraken queen base I would go with the us regulated ones, but don't be fooled. Those are not immune to this either I don't think that they're directly involved in any way. I I think they are likely very solvent But the thing is is you should never have a feeling of oh, I'm completely safe. I'm comfortable because the fact is you're not Um, and so to run into the trading thing, how do I keep these orders active? Well, that's going to be how much risk you're willing to take on Um, whatever you have on exchange again is at risk. And so you're going to have to make that choice Are you willing to lose it? Is this trade you're looking for? Worth it And I can't tell you the answer that's going to come down to each individual But right now I think I have 97 or 98 of all my crypto assets in cold storage. There you go Yeah, there you go. And I think it's it's a good point. We have these rules And the first rule we have is right underneath tom. It's uh, it's all gone meaning that You can't invest more than you can afford to lose So if you're okay with two percent three percent five percent or whatever percentage it is That is up to you and we can't tell you what to do. Uh, we are not uh investment advisors I don't think me or tom or your dad. So we cannot do these things. We cannot help you out It's up to you to make that decision excellent points tom. Thank you. That makes a lot of sense The last one let's come out of this. I think this is the bigger play The mental aspect because I've seen your videos. I've watched you and even you who have done a lot of trading You've even said I know I should do this thing But I can't pull the trigger right now because I'm going to let this ride You don't say all the time but you but but I I've caught you saying and even I have said that going You know what? I have a plan in place. I just need to follow this plan But then I either get too greedy or too fearful. I execute some things but not like I should so the mental aspect Tom, how do we deal with that? It's the number one thing in trading and I think you could even say that almost nothing else matters It's a not a satisfying answer either But almost nothing else matters all the indicators all the numbers and lines like These things have relevance because they can help us identify some probability some edges where we might be able to profit But at the end of the day Dan, this is what I said before we started is we have a lot in common is It's all about making a plan Setting that plan up and executing it and then not messing with it in between And I have years and years of experience trading and dan you have years and years of experience investing I'm sure you do a little trading too And even we we sometimes can't follow through it's it's not easy It is almost a super human feat to be able to control your emotions um The sentiment and I said that about doge kind of putting myself in a win-win position I like that because it really takes the pressure off of the Mental or the mindset you have because you're thinking oh, I'm winning in either direction So I don't need to worry and the more often you can do that. Absolutely the more successfully you'll be Um, but even I live streaming. I remember the video. I was like, oh man, I shouldn't I know I should just close this but I'm not going to and then like a day later. I was like, well, you told yourself you should have done it Really anything you can do anything you can do to get yourself Calm and in a rational mindset because trading does Kind of reflect in our body the same way physical motions do like if we're confronted by a bear You're not really thinking logically you're thinking.  There's a bear. I should run, right? Right. Um, and in that case you should run But in trading there's no there's no physical bear there to eat you And so I've found almost any time I've made a decision in that fight or flight state It's been the wrong one and it has to be like intentional from markets To trap us into these mindsets where we have to make a decision right now has to be a big one And if I don't do it something really bad is going to happen. Well, guess what if you just stand up Walk away.  Usually things are right about where they were an hour later Um, that's kind of my rule that I I propose to people I'm using limit orders is a great way to do it in that little video set it and forget it It's a great way uh to literally forget about it And if you're not remembering it, it's really hard to stress over it. So That's a good way to combat it as well Yeah, I gotta tell you well, there's a couple of things first of all Uh, how many times have you who are watching this video done that you've you've seen some kind of news event You've taken a look at the charts and you've done a little bit too of a hasty decision It just it happens more often than not and then the next thing is I mean if you really think about it Um, these things that that we have as far as emotions we can control them but it just takes a lot of practice and uh, right now I think it's important that you have a plan whether that that plan be something like uh, like we talked about here In this exit strategy or the things that uh, tom had talked about in in his videos Either way, there's a way for you to do things and maybe it's a hybrid of both of it But the big thing is is just to find a plan find something that works for you And set it and forget it and before we take off tom, let me ask you this real quick How sweet is it to have those order limits set and then just wake up and haven't have already had it done and you're like Wow and profit. How does that feel? Oh, it's amazing. It really is an amazing feeling. Uh, it's the delayed gratification, right? That's it's that's the The opposite of what I think people instinctively want they want that instant gratification And I just I've never really it just doesn't work The more you can delay it for some reason in crypto. It's just the more successful. It seems uh, kind of an anecdotal story. I think it was like early 2020 I had layered buys on bitcoin every 500 dollars down all the way to Zero basically at something like a hundred and I thought it's a little never fill. We're we're flying up We're going to the moon again because everybody thought that at the time. Yeah, sure Come march 2020 I woke up and I had all these limit orders filled at really low prices and everyone was like, what? Like you're so you're such a good trader tom and I was like these have sat for Two years. I'm not like thank you You're saying I'm a great trader, but in reality I just was patient and I just set these orders and I waited what I did is and maybe this will be really value add to your audience is What price will what price would make you uncomfortable? What would make you really? Really kind of scared, right? Yeah, throw a limit order there because guess what if price crashes to that number Now all of a sudden you may just bought it really really cheap cheaper than you ever thought you'd buy it And you're putting yourself then in a position of well This crash maybe is actually good because I was able to accumulate so much of an asset so cheap that I didn't even think it Would ever happen It's really turning the tables on that mentality doing that that is perfect And with that that is a perfect segue to get out of here. Tom. You've said you've said it all today Thank you so much for coming on the show and everybody if you're looking for uh, tom crown and his channel There's a link in the description You can check them out and final the great information, but that is it for today. So tom. Thanks for stopping by We appreciate it. Thank you man. Thanks for having me dan. All right, everybody. That's it for today. Adios


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started. So let's pray and ask God specifically that God will use us over this weekend, the next few days, to communicate the gospel, to share the gospel. I know in today's day and time, we may not be meeting people in person, but whether it's a text, whether it's an email, whether it's over Zoom, let's pray, let's ask God for divine connections, divine opportunities and it's belief that God will lead us to that person who needs to hear the gospel. Now it could be the full gospel, like you have an opportunity, the person has the time and you are able to share or maybe it is just to nudge them towards that. It's not the goal, but it's your past and it's a good past and you're going closer to the goal. So it's something about the truth. Maybe they are curious and let's just believe God. Let's pray and let's believe God that God will do that in our lives. Father, we just thank you, Lord. We thank you that God that in your wisdom, Lord, that you give and grant divine appointments, Father God. And we ask this morning that you will do so in our lives, Lord, that you will take us to people, lead us to people who need to hear the truth, who need to hear maybe words of encouragement from the word which opens their hearts to the gospel. And I pray that each one of us God, here in this class, each one of us, Lord, that even as we pray this, we pray with ex, pray expectantly, Father God, that you will use us to share the gospel, that you will use us to communicate the truth of God in ways that only you know is possible, God. And I just pray that we'll be open, we'll be expectant, we'll be sensitive, even as you lead us in those ways. So we thank you, God. We thank you, Lord. We come at this time into your mighty hands.  We thank you. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Okay, so we believe that, right? So we'll be expectant towards that. Let's pray and let's believe expectantly that God will, you know, show us leaders and, and that we'll be able to share the gospel. Maybe it's a neighbor, maybe it's someone on the street, whoever, right? Okay, and we'll come back with some stories, right? Probably when we meet, when we meet on Wednesday, I guess for the same class. So we'll, let's, let's believe God, that we will have some stories to share, right? Okay. Okay, so today we said we will hear, last class we looked at the relevance of preaching, the relevance of homiletics. And before that we looked at, you know, the whole, the whole function of preaching in the Bible, right? Preparation, arranging and, and preaching in the Bible. And we looked at some sermons as well. We looked at, you know, how the Old Testament prophets, how they would speak and how, how they used language and, and the figures of speech in language. And we, we see some of that in, you know, coming through in, in Psalms, in Proverbs and, and in the prophetic books as well. And we looked at three sermons, we looked at the sermon that Paul, Peter preached, we looked at the sermon that Stephen preached, and we looked at the sermon that Paul preached and Athens and, and, you know, the way in which they preached and, and it's amazing some of them, like, I think all of them did not have any, you know, notes, but they were prepared, like, they were prepared by the Holy Spirit through what they've heard through the, through the experiences and through their time with, you know, with, with the Lord, right? So we looked at that. And also, okay, so we said that, you know, how did the gospel come to us? It, how was it preached, you know? So, okay, someone else also feels, okay, oops. Okay, let me, let me just try reinserting it just one second, please. Is it better? Is it okay? Because it still has, yeah. Yes, yes, yes, it's gone, the stress is gone.  Okay, was it through some song that we heard? Was it preached to us in what relevant way, you know, in what way was it communicated that it, that it kind of made sense, or it set us on a journey to, you know, to seek the truth. Right, so we said, you know, you just take some time to listen to that. So it's now, yeah, 11, 8, okay, we have some time.  How was it communicated that the first time you said yes to Jesus? So, yeah, so who'd like to go first? And can I go first? Yeah, sure, Charles. Yeah, just take a minute, okay, very briefly. Okay, please go ahead. Yes, me, the preaching took place when I was in prison in 2007, I was in government prison, had been taken there for making counterfeit money. And the God took to me in the middle of the night, asked me, what would you do if I get you out of here?  And if you're good, I will speak your name. In the morning, he talked to me again, I had finished breakfast and seated alone. The same voice talked, even at lunch, the same voice talked. And in the evening, got around the city, the pastor came, the one, those people who preached in prisons, and they delivered the sermon, and he did an invitation, and I stood up for the Lord. And that's how it was preached, I was in prison. And that's when I had, that's when I said yes. Wow, praise God, awesome. Thank you so much, Charles. Wonderful to hear that.  So, how did, how did he speak? You know, how did you sense that, that God was speaking? How did you know that God was speaking? I was, it was in the night and the, the voice was talking clearly and we were in the cell lying on the, on the, on the, on the cement and I woke up and the voice had gone. But when I was seated under a roof in the morning after breakfast, I was looking down and the voice again talked. I could, I moved, I moved my face to see who is talking, but nobody was around, but I was hearing the voice. And even that the third time was done at lunch. Yeah. Okay. And just one question. And because I was not seeing the person, I knew it was God. Okay. So when, so when you heard the message, the, the, the prison preaching and the person would come to minister. So anything in the message that was preached, did it, did it draw you you know, to respond that way? Or was it just the call, you know, if anybody wants to, to at the end? No, the thing that pulled me was like, you have to accept Christ.  And I was a vibrant teacher for physics and mathematics. And I was destined for hell. I had no time for the Bible. All those questions were coming in me. I had performed very well in the country in 1994 and I had been given a gift of the Bible and I did not wear that Bible was. So a lot of questions were coming in my mind and all those questions. So the answer was surrender. Wow. Praise God. Awesome. Thank you. So yeah, anyone else would like to go next? Okay. I'll share very quickly.  And, and I didn't want anything to do with religion. But somehow I was this Christian youth camp because my friends invited me and I was there. And, and I was also feeling very empty on the inside.  And also religion itself was a, was a crutch. So I didn't want a crutch to go through life. So, so I was sitting there and listening and, and a lot of things were being shared. Nothing made sense, right? Nothing made sense at all. I was, I was feeling very bored. I was sleepy. And, and then there was one statement which this person made, which really, so I just call it a one liner message, you know, one statement that this person made, which made sense. He said, you need guts to be a Christian. Okay. So, so that was very different from what I had thought about Christianity, about Christ, about, you know, Christ followers. So it made, it got me thinking, right? So it kind of shook me, like, okay, different values, going against the flow, going against it. So that made me think, right? And, and, and after the camp was over, we were just going back and I was in a bus standing for about almost an hour and a journey back. And I was talking for the first time to the Lord, you know, in, in sincere, in my heart, I said, Lord, all these people seem to think that you're, you know, you're real.  Right. And, and then sure enough, I went back and I, I realized that I had actually, you know, in stages, I was giving my heart to the Lord and went back and the Bible made a lot of sense. I started reading, I started praying. And so I really don't know when I actually came to the Lord, when I made my decision to the Lord, daytime, I don't know, but I know that something started at that camp and that person said, you know, you need guts to be a Christian. And he was a very successful, you know, he was professional. He was working for a company called HCL computers. And, and he was, he was a regional manager. So when he said, you need guts to be a Christian, you know, it kind of changed my perspective about Christ and started journey there. Okay. So that's, that was how it came. So it was a one-liner message. Right. Okay. Anyone else? Let's see a monkey, sir. Sorry, hope you said something. Yes, I say, let's give brother monkey to give us his testimony. Yeah, anyone, anyone. Yeah. Thank you, brother. It's good to have you online. It's good to see you. Okay. Thank you, sir. Mine is different. Mine. I don't know when, when I gave my, my heart's crushed, but all started when I was, when I was a kid, when I was young, we used to live in a, in a, in a military barrack.  The men met every morning to pray that five o'clock they were, they will ring a bell and then they start singing hymns and praying. I think those hymns were my, what's, it's what preached to me because since I was five growing up, I grew, I grew up in the morning because they were singing loud. I couldn't sleep. So I started singing them. And then on Sunday, I'll go and, I'll go stand by the window, listen to what they're preaching and, and, and praying. So yeah, I don't know when, when, when, what, what, what happened to me, but I believe that's, that was the foundation of my, my, my believing. Oh, thank you. Thank you, Maggie. So do you remember any hymn that actually particular hymn that drew you from the hymns that you were singing any particular? Yes, there is, there is one, I still remember it says, the grace of Golgotha. I don't know how it goes in English, but it's a, it's like, it's like a great sea. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I was about to ask, can you sing it for us? I'm not a good singer. Okay. So in what language is it? This is Swahili or is it? Yeah, it's in Swahili. Swahili. Wow. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Maggie. Okay, next. Who else? Um, probably we'll ask Hope, you know, you suggested Maggie. Okay. So maybe we can do this. Okay. So hope you can share and then you decide who should say next. Okay. You can call out the name. And then we'll do it. Okay. So go ahead and hope. Thank you, Pastor. Uh, let me, me, I just, maybe to sing a song that Pastor Maggie was not a good singer in singing that song in Swahili. Yeah. It's, it's a song. It's like this. It's meaning that, uh, praise be the cross, praise be the Son of God. It's all about uh, uh, Golgotha. So it's, it's, this hymns is just defined about what Christ did at the cross in redeeming us and us, making us to know who, yeah. Wow. Wow. Praise God. Awesome. Yeah. So, yeah, go ahead and share Hope, about your life. Okay. Uh, I, I came to know God, uh, when I was, uh, from Swahili, from two, from two, I was just going to tuition and I found out that I was studying very hard, but I was, I was failing at class. But one day I go in a certain church, which was a Pentecostal church. I don't know how I changed. I was very rude boy. I was, I was very gay boy, but I don't remember God transformed me from that day. And, uh, is when I start my journey to know God, it was about 2013 till today, that is how I was being saved. Yeah. Okay. So you were going to church, you were listening, uh, but you're not sure how, when it happened, uh, but any particular time, any message that made sense, um, it was 2014. Okay. 2014, I, I, I came to realize that what I was being taught there, church was correct. And, uh, 2015, I, I accepted to being baptized and, uh, is when I was being filled with the Holy Spirit. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Right. Thank you. Yeah. Who do you, who do you like to share next? Whose name would you want to call on next? You can just suggest. Okay. Kennedy. Go ahead. Yeah. Go ahead, Kennedy. I think my new rings, because after from college, I graduated. I got a job with an Indian pharmaceutical company here. I was being well paid and I entered into a bad lifestyle. I used to drink, I used to be an organizer. Uh, sometimes I got promoted, I got more money, then I started having misfortunes. I've had about four different parts of the mobile accidents. I almost lost my hand to my aunt because I thought my aunt was supposed to be addicted. But, uh, one day my daughter just came and told me, God loves you.  From there, I sat down. I, I meditated over that statement for quite a while. Okay. So this is your, um, so who wrote to you? This is your daughter, you said? My daughter. I tell you, she wasn't good. Yeah. I said, keep the letter to it. Yeah.  Just pray. She came and prayed for me in our place. Then that they had, they didn't sleep. I was very restless. But after the prayers, I felt a big difference. I went, I went to church. Then I committed my life to Christ. Then I became poor. Okay. I lost all my money. You know, everything just crumbled into the schedule because I lost my job. I was sad because of carelessness. I was drunk. I was not keeping my record straight. Then I kind of had to find a different approach. But honestly speaking, I've seen a very big change in my life. God has really given me the direction that I've recovered what I lost. And I'm happy. I'm happy. I'm happy. Wow. And you went to my fellow colleagues. They asked me what happened? What did you do? I tell them it's my decrease. It's not by my own effort. Praise God. And even my daughter, even my daughter, I can be prayed together with my daughter. Yeah. But he's been one of my strongest pillars in my Christian life. Wow. It's really moving. Very touching to hear that. Yeah. Wow. Praise God. Thank you. Thank you, Kennedy. Yeah. So who would you like to share next, Kennedy? Who would you choose? Yeah, just call out any name on the... Sorry? My idea, brother. Samuel. Oh, okay. Sam, Sam Kaiba.  Thank you. Thank you. So for me, I think my mother has been my biggest influence in bringing me close to God. So I have... So it's her life. So not any particular preaching, but her life and everyday family devotion. I think from a very early age, she would just keep us together. So I have two younger sisters. So we would make sure that there are at least two fellowships that happen at home, like family prayer, one in the morning and one in the evening. So I was in grade four. I was in class four. I don't remember the age, but probably 10, 11 years old. That's when... I think the family was going through a hard time. My mom and dad had a lot of differences, but basically we were with mom. So my mom... I think my mom and dad were not reconciled in a very good way. So I just... I see my mom struggle a lot and it's watching her talk to God as if God's her closest friend, you know, and she prays. So watching her life, watching her personal relationship with God is what brought me to Christ. And the way my mother would conduct the family class prayer, like even now, even to this day, when we get in the class and if mom has to speak, her message is pretty much the same. She is like, you need Jesus. It almost feels like an altar, every message that she gives feels like an altar for her. She's like, you need to give your life to Jesus. You need to come, like no matter who's sitting. So she'll just share something, but she'll conclude that. She'll conclude with... She's old school, so she'll conclude with having you give your life to Jesus. So it's... That's what brought me close to God and has helped me in my journey with Christ. That's awesome. Yeah. So the life actually preaches louder than many, many sermons. Yeah. And that preached to you. Okay. Thank you so much, Sam. Yeah, Sam. So Sam, who's next? I will go next. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you, Sam. My family, actually, I'm a... Come from Indra, my friend. We were accepting Christ. My family was affected under the witchcraft for 20 years. See, I always... I have a friendly, friendly guy who lives with everyone. That's my nature. So I didn't believe all this witchcraft that will serve. My friend, while I'm studying PUC, my close friend took me to the church. Likewise, I liked Sposter's sermons. I was touched by sermons. My friend gifted me Bible. I never read Bible, but I was worried. Later on, my dad was serious. Later on, my thought, by all of a sudden, there was no peace at home. Always fight, calling between my mom, father, my sister, myself. As soon as I came out of my house, I used to enjoy, I used to more spend time in church. I was feeling the same peace. So my pastor advised me to ask God peace, pray for your mother and father. Since I was not willing to witchcraft, I did not tell anyone. So, God, I felt in my heart, the Holy Spirit asked me to open Bible. So I opened the Bible and talking to me, there is a man at the Basilisk Devil. You need to believe. Unfortunately, during that time, my dad was possessed. I did not know what to do meet a night. He was taking the knife and he was keeping the throat to cut. That's when I realized that dad was possessed. God gave me praise to pray for him. Just pray so that I could hear another voice. Don't say me. Don't call me. Don't say to me. I want to kill him. Can't even kill him. I continued my prayers. Could Jesus your save my dear dad? As soon as I was prayed, I could see some black spirit leaving my house. That's when I realized evil person a bit described. I started to pray, but unfortunately, the devil created me, poured me job, which was in Nasek. I was told to Nasek. I didn't realize while this time, my father passed away. Later, I decided to catch on of demons, witchcraft. It's the EVP accepted Jesus Christ. He is the only savior. I also told condomins, my family, mother, sister. She was complete into by agronome and a believer of worship idols. She was also not willing. So I prayed. I did turn 21 days pasting prayer. I was out. God really brought me, my family, out of this witchcraft activities. My God grace, I am totally, my family totally accepted Jesus Christ in 2000, 15 November, 20, after an hour, 40, unquantifiable day. That was, we had no relatives, no friends to help. My friend chose me after that. God gave me power of spanking tongues. Right, Dinesh. Thank you. Thank you so much. Wonderful to hear. Thank you so much that you were saved and your family was saved and everyone came to the saving knowledge of Christ and through the power. So what Dinesh was saying was that, when he prayed, he just prayed that, you know, those three words, Eswin Ratham Jayam, which means the victory in the blood of Jesus and, you know, that evil spirit left and so on. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that. Okay, anyone else? Anyone else? Okay, I'm just going to point and close my eyes and, you know, touch one person's name in the screen and then hopefully, you know, that person will share. Okay, so, okay, that's Rupa. Why don't you share Rupa quickly? Sir, there is nothing dramatic in my... No problem. Yeah, we're just looking at, you know, how was the gospel priest. We're just trying to find out, you know, how did the gospel come to you? Was it communicated to you?  So yeah, so very, very quickly, very briefly, if you can share that. Thank you. Before I was born, my mother and father, during my mother conceived and they started fasting and praying, I believe, because my mother has already lost two, three babies. I don't remember correctly. And they were fasting and praying. And after I was born, the moment I started understanding, I don't remember at times, sir, when I don't know God. I don't know how many prime people ask, when did you receive Christ? I had a deep hunger and thirst to know more about God, to love God, and to please him. I don't know how. And over the period, he has corrected me. He has brought me into more into his closer to him. That's what I can share. Thank you, sir. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Rupa. Anyone else? May I share the pasta? Yeah, go ahead. So in the year 2009, I was 17 years old, then I had finished my board exam for class 12. And so I was talking with some of our friends in the street. So one person came, I knew him. He was resident of that area. He was having one eye, because he was beaten by police, due to some criminal offense. So he came, suddenly, and he started preaching the gospel to us. So out of nowhere, I thought, wait, what this man is saying, I've never heard it before. I've heard about Jesus. He's a Christian God, but I've never heard what he's saying. So he invited us to the church who was attending. So I said, okay, I'll go to the church. So the next Sunday, I went to the church and I was looking into the people's faces. They were crying. They were raising their hands. So I was not getting the message clearly also. But that day, the pastor gave me a little book, a new Testament book. So I went home and I always loved to study books, actually. So every day, I used to read one page. My parents, we were a strict Hindu. I was from a strict Hindu family. So they stared at me. They'll see what this boy is doing. But so I started going to the church every Sunday. I was loving the environment and everything. But I was not understanding the entire message. But I used to read the book and understand some part of it, because that time, it used to come in the KJB version. So yeah. So something happened after five months, my father had a cerebral attack and passed away. And that time, no person from the family came, not even that person came. And I was broken. And my sister and my mother, we were four people in a family. They pointed their fingers at me that because I started going to the church, all these things happened because I, yeah. So because I was becoming kind of a freak in all these things. They used to call me like that. So they started pointing finger at me out of nowhere. When people were crying so much, I also wanted to cry. I feel the tangible peace over my entire body. And I still remember that old red sofa in my home. I took two steps backward, raised my hand, put the hand over my heart and say, Lord Jesus, from today I leave all those idols I accept you as my Lord and Savior. So that was the day, the day my father died, the body was laying in my home. They were family and everything pointing fingers at me out of nowhere. I accepted the Lord that day. And even at the time of cremation also, I didn't feel anything. I wanted to cry, but I couldn't because that peace was so tangible, so thick that I could, like it's like a, it's like a jacket of my body and I could feel it. And from that day onwards till today, I'm in the Lord and praise be to the Lord Jesus Christ that my entire family has believed the Lord is baptized. And yeah, for 10 years we are a believing family. Yeah. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you. Praise God. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you, Superjit. Okay. Anyone else? So I'm trying to make it very, very, very, very short. That was my struggle. So in 2001, from Delhi we came to Bangalore for just six months. My husband had changed a job and we landed up worshiping with Pastor Ashish in his house church. He had just begun in February and March we shifted here. And July onwards, July I lost my dad. So there was a huge vacuum in my heart, but Pastor that time was preaching us the series called Who We Are in Christ. So I wrote down everything in my diary. This is the first time I started noting down the word. And within three, four months, we again went back like six months here and we went back. And there was a huge vacuum in my heart. And I started praying, Lord, we need you. We need a good church. I didn't know what was the prayer, but we landed up in UAE. I was working there as a teacher. So I remember the first time we entered the church, this song was as the deer panted for the water. So my heart pants for you. So this song just touched my heart. And every Sunday without fail, the tears were flowing from my eyes, me and my husband. And we were so touched by the Holy Spirit, but we didn't know anything about the new birth, about the gospel and receiving Jesus as your personal savior. That was not something we were known to. But as I was working, I was in a very, very bad circumstance and in that place in my school. And one fine day in a parent teachers meeting, this parent came in who was not very happy with the child's result. And he was a Christian and he came with all his family, three children. And he sat behind before me. I was very burdened with the workload and and the pressures and my quad, my supervisor was very upset with me with certain things. And I didn't know, I was not at fault, but there was something that was tormenting me. And I was very heavily burdened sitting there waiting for parents to come. And he was the first parent who came with his family.  And I'm wondering what to say. I just wished him and he started talking and I just didn't say anything before that. He said, can I pray for you? So I was wondering, okay, a parent praying for me. I said, sure, sir, you can pray. And he started praying. And the presence of the Holy Spirit came in that classroom where he was praying for me very strongly. And all the burdens just rolled away. And I felt so much peace. I was continuously in tears. But after the prayer, I felt like, you know, there was immense peace in my heart and my journey with for hunger and thirst for the Lord began there. Everything became so clear to me as to what was happening in the past.  So he just left and it was a supernatural experience. And after that continuously, like I cannot even count how many supernaturally supernatural experiences got touched me, saved me and protected me until I realized that it was Pastor Ashish who had put the seed in my heart of who I am in Christ. So when I came back from UAE, I found this diary again. And when I opened the diary, I realized that everything was written in it. And all those words made so much sense to me. So I prayed, I said, Lord, I want to go back to APC church once again. So 10 years later, Lord brought me to this place where I'm, you know, now learning so much about the Lord and that hunger and thirst is being satisfied in the same church. And God is teaching me all the truth. And, you know, nationally, I'm growing in the Lord. So I give all the glory to God and thank you all that faculty and teachers for this great privilege. Thank you so much. It's so good to hear that. So awesome. Praise God.  But yeah, awesome. Good to hear that. Okay, we still have some more time. So we'll pack in as many as possible. Yeah, go ahead. My testimony is like when I was in school, I don't even remember like maybe I was in the first standard or second standard. At that time, like I studied in a convent and the Gideon's people would come and give us the small Gideon's Bible to the children in school. And I had also received one and we would have this people come like every year and pass on the small Gideon's Bible. So I would have this small Bible in my bag. And whenever I felt sad or whenever I felt lonely or whatever difficulty I was going through, I would just open up that small Gideon Bible and I would start reading the scriptures. My most favorite one was Psalm 23. And when I was facing any difficulty, I would read Psalm 62. And I would like actually find a lot of strength and courage. And because of that, I started to draw very near to God at that age. And I would go to the chapel also in the convent and sit there during the lunch or everything, I would just keep speaking to God. And I started to just draw close to God just reading those the scriptures in that Gideon Bible and going to the chapel. Though I came from a CSI background from a Christian family, we never heard the gospel in the church. So I never had an idea about the gospel. And when I came to college and I was a teenager, one day my uncle who's a Baptist pastor just came to visit us. And then he asked me to come with the family took me to their house. And that Sunday, he was preaching. And his preaching was like fire and brimstone from the starting of the message to the end of the message. The entire message was for me. And he was like literally going out saying like your baptism in the church, your confirmation, your living as a Christian, nothing is going to take you to heaven. You're not going to have a relationship with God. It's a relationship with God that you need. And he was asking this question like, you know, saying, do you have an idea like what is going to happen to you if you died right now? What is the confidence? And it was like really very, very, for me at that point of time, I felt very hurt and it was very embarrassing. And I knew he was telling me in front of the whole church like, you know, and when I got back home, like he was quiet as normal the relationship. But then I went back to him the next day, which was Monday morning on the 27th of May.  And I don't have an eternal life and all of the stuff. And I said, on what basis are you saying all these things? And then he took me to Gospel of John. And the third chapter and he showed me how Jesus said, even to Nicodemus said, even though he's a scholar, even though he was a person who did all of these things that the scriptures required, yet Jesus told him that you have to be born again. And then he shared the Gospel through the Gospel of John 3rd chapter saying, how a person, in spite of you being a Christian or whatever practice you do, yet if you are not born of the Spirit, if you are not born again, you cannot inherit the kingdom of God. And that is the point when I said, yes, I want to inherit the kingdom of God and I want to be born of the Spirit and born of God. And then I asked him what I should do and he led me in that prayer of receiving the Lord Jesus Christ. And from then on, my Jenny started and I brought the Gospel home to my own family, shared it with my parents, my siblings and everybody and they also received the Lord. Wow. Praise God. It's wonderful that you went back and you asked and had a sat down and reason and he had that opportunity to share. Beautiful. Praise God. Thank you. Okay. Who else? Okay. So just wanted to share this. Take this time to hear all the stories. I'm sure there are many more. I see Tarun, I'm so Chris and each one of you Prabhakar, all of you have Rose, Felix and all of you have different ways or different stories to share about how you came to the Lord. And it'll be interesting, you know, the circumstances you were in and how the Gospel was communicated. You know, sometimes, like from what we hear, we see many ways like sovereign encounter, like in the case of Charles and a combination of that, you know, sovereign encounter with God and God using someone and a song, a letter. It's wonderful, right? So just want to inspire us and motivate us to do the same to others.   You know, it can be a song, it can be a letter, it can be something, but let God use you to communicate the Gospel because he has called us to this, right? Okay, so next time we may... Yeah, Anita, it's very briefly because we're almost done. Yeah, yeah. From childhood, I was longing for a love and like there would be a time whether it is my mother, father or so many people around me, I would look for a love, but it would happen that over the period of time, almost my 20s and all like whomsoever I expected that they would love me and there would be a time where they would actually fully like dishonor me or like there would be a time that I would not feel any longing. I would feel that where that love gone, like how can suddenly it can just go away and how can they just distance me like that and it is to break my heart and all the, I am born as a Christian, God, maybe you know that we have to pray to Jesus every time we feel lonely or depressed, so I used to do that but still and whatever I used to, like whatever everybody said, pray, pray, pray, I used to pray and like in those prayers, like I have made such a request like God because I was longing for love and I have heard so many love stories like that, so I used to say, God, I want somebody who will love me, the person should be somebody like I was, I have asked like such prayers that some person should come who is an engineer, who is from my school and that would happen, those people would call me, they would propose me and then I say, no, I don't want, again it will happen that I will ask for God, God somebody you send, so and I want somebody from UK as just like crazy prayers have done and there the people have called my brother and they told God told me that she is your sister is the one for me and like that crazy prayers I went on doing and God was listening to my prayer, I don't know what happened but every time it would, whatever I prayed, it was coming my way but I was not taking up, I said, God, I don't know why I'm not taking up whatever is coming up but I really don't know what was happening and like then at last I prayed God, I don't want, I really don't know what I want, you just give me the person whom you think that I would be a blessing for him and then I got married but still that longing, that love was not fulfilled anyway, like so then one day what happened in my house, pastor came and he is totally like he doesn't know anything about me and he just entered my house, the moment he entered my house, that moment only he said, the sister who stays in this house, God loves you and he has a message for you that he has changed all of your circumstances, like I came from Mumbai to Bangalore and here I did not know anyone, one single person also, so God has brought you in this place that he is going to like kind of manifest himself, that he is there every now and then and all of my requests were fulfilled by him and I was felt so loved that after that I just want to grow in his love, that's my testimony. Thank you. Wow, praise God, very unusual prayers that you prayed and awesome, a prophetic word and that's that just opened the way for the gospel, awesome, praise God. So thank you so much, thank you all who shared, thank you all for staying and listening and so yeah, so look forward to this weekend, be sensitive to God and we'll come back with more stories of how God used you, how God took you and so on, yeah, so step out radically, I faith and go ahead, just share, okay, so we'll catch up again next week. Okay, God bless, see you all, bye bye. Thank you, pastor. Thank you, pastor. Thank you, pastor. Thank you, pastor. Thank you, pastor.


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