Yes, welcome back to Why In The Morning. Welcome back to Queens Wednesday. On Why In The Morning, my name is Barry Moses. It's my most social media. This is strength of a woman. It happens to be one of my favorite segments of the week because I had to meet people who were doing amazing stuff and interact with them and learn a lot from them. My strength of a woman of the day is only 19 years old and she has a movement, an environmental conservation movement. She's passionate about conserving the environment and she is here with us to share her story, Kiribu Sadam. Thank you. And it's a sonia. Your camera is number four. You can list any other things that are left out of the intro. Okay. Anita, as we just said, I'm a student at Multimedia University pursuing a Bachelor of Arts in PR and Corporate Communication. I'm a third year. I'm an inspirational speaker. I'm an online marketer. And most importantly, an environmental warrior. A green warrior. All right. A green warrior. All right. I like that. I just saw the mic steady at the center. All right. You're studying Corporate Communication. But you are passionate about the environment. How did you end up in Corporate Communication first? I think because I talk too much. And then... It doesn't seem like it though. Yeah. I talk too much. And I also... I think I just love a lot of online stuff. And that is the only field that I could go... I could get into. And exercise this. Exercise your passion for being online. And just saying, all right. So when did this passion for conserving the environment or this fight for the environment start?  First you can say passion is something that's always there. But I discovered it after my high school. When I was just there, I didn't have anything to do. So I enrolled for mentorship under a certain organization called Spice Without Borders where the founder is my mentor. And that is when I noticed I had passion for environment conservation. And then I even remembered back in high school when I was a scout. You know, scouting is all about fan keys and all that. Yes. That is the reason most of them, not most of us, most of them joined the scout. Yes. So... But for me, I also like taking care of the trees that we planted in school and all that. And then also growing up in a family where my grandfather valued trees so much, he had a small natural forest that people destroyed it after he passed on because they wanted firewood and everything else without planting the trees, without reforestating the place. This was painful. Yeah. That was so painful. And I think, yeah, that's when I noticed, no. I think I know where my love is. All right. This natural forest that was brought down by villages or the people who live around where your grandfather was living, did you see the direct effects of cutting down this forest that you saw growing up? Yeah. And up to date, I still can't say I've seen the effects because it's not only my grandfather's forest that was destroyed, but the trees along the stream that was there because we have a stream down there. So all the trees along the stream, you can't see trees like we used to long time ago. And we have the stream drying up and everything else. So I think that's another effect. All right. So really, the stream is drying up because the trees were brought down. The landscape has changed because these trees were brought down and everything. This is one of the reasons you joined this movement to push or fight for the environment. And also because I think if I don't do it, nobody else will do it. In the fact that I know many people are in the field of conservation, but you see the way you're doing things here, nobody can do it the way you're doing it. So I don't think if I stop doing it, nobody will do what I'm supposed to be doing. All right. So talking about trees and the environment, the knowledge and the science behind it is complex. It's complicated. Talking about the poles. We're talking about the oceans. We're talking about the lakes. We're talking about the air, the what exists in the air. Or how can I put this? The elements that exist around us, there's so much science that goes into it. Do you take your time to understand this or how do you go about your fight for the environment? First, you know, the tough language of conservation scares away many people. So I really try hard to understand it. And maybe when posting something on my social media, I break it down. You'll never find me posting something long, something hard people won't understand. What is mitigation, adaptation or whatever? We went for a conference and a certain friend of mine was telling me what is mitigation, what is adaptation. It's a common term used in conservation. It's not a hard term, but not everyone understands. So I try so much to understand the simple language. And then you try to understand it and then convert it to a simple language. So again, not being an environmental science student or a science student, I really find it difficult. When I want to go out and plant trees, which tree does well in this area? Which tree doesn't do well in this area? Why am I buying this tree? So I get knowledge from my friends who have studied the same course. I even have international friends doing masters on environmental science. I really ask a lot from them. All right. I like, so trees, maybe you can share the importance of trees to the people who are watching right now. People, some people maybe they don't care or they just say, tell her with this, what do I need trees for? I live in a flat. I go to work in the CBD. I come back home. What do I need trees for? I use gas to cook. I use electricity. Maybe you can just highlight some of the importance, some of the importance of growing trees. Simple. First, it purifies our air. Attracts rain. That is the most important one. Yeah, that's the most important one. Then it also attracts rain. Firewood is important. Let me just tell you this. I was discussing this with a friend about the importance of using firewood over gas. Long time ago, we had our old grandmas and everyone living long because they used to use firewood and everything else. Let's talk about milk. When boiling milk using gas, gas will just let the milk rise. Rise, rise and rise again, but the milk doesn't get well cooked compared to firewood. That's why you'll hear people having some some problems, some infections because they drank milk and then they thought they boiled it over and over again, but you can't compare gas to firewood. All right, so the cooking process is different. The heat that firewood gives is strong compared to gas. That is one of the things. Gas is just fast. That is just one of the things. So firewood is very important. It's very important to cook some of our foods with firewood directly. It's also very important that trees purify our air, sorry. Especially in the cities like Nairobi. You can compare downtown and uptown where we have trees. What happens? Yes, I choke a lot down there. And the other side, it's very, very conducive. But yeah, that's why there's a difference between someone who lives somewhere in Limoru, somewhere down there in Karen, and someone who just lives in an apartment. Somewhere. Around town or something, yeah. The health status is definitely going to be different. All right, you have a project, 20 trees for Anita Sonia. All right, what is it about? Okay, so this project is about the birthday campaigns that I'm so glad that many people... No problem, no problem. This is a free space in Asia. Many people are picking it up. They plant your age campaigns. Trees for birthdays and all that. So this year I thought it differently because I planted 19 trees this year, early January, to celebrate my 19th birthday. And this year I thought it differently. Like why instead of waiting till 24 December to plant 20 trees at my home, why can't I just do this with other people who love my work? So the first project we did it at Karyobangi, Outreach Children's Home, together with the Guardian Angel Foundation, they're the people who organized it for me. So the reason why I have this is I want people to invite me to their homes, invite me to your church, invite me to your school. Let's plant 20 trees for my birthday because one day when you're all gone, someone will say, I know Anita. I once bought her chocolates for her birthday, but yeah, I ate the chocolates and saw what. At least say we planted this tree. I don't have the chocolates and I didn't go with them. So at least say we planted these trees together and we can look at it and we can see it. What is the criteria? How are you growing these trees along the road side, along the roads or in people's compounds or in public places? What is the criteria of picking a place where you guys are going to grow these trees? Whichever the place, as long as the tree can grow. As long as the tree can grow. Yeah, exactly. I consider homes, people's homes, even if it's your own home, we can still do that. Church, institution, anywhere else where it's easy to get. You know, we also need a place to grow the trees. We have a lot of restrictions that you can't plant trees. Maybe along the road you can't do this. So we have to do it where it's not that hard for us. Quite loud. And you have to go through all these things with the county government and everything. Yeah, that's a long process. That's what I'm doing with people in their homes. Not in public places. I've done it in schools. We have done it in Kisumu National Polytechnic. That was our biggest achievement, I can say. It's a team, yeah. The trees are still alive, the trees are growing. Yeah, we even get messages and calls from the people. They're like, hi, we have about 98% tree survival. Yeah. All right. So the survival rate right now is at 98%? At the Kisumu National Polytechnic, where we planted over 1,500 trees. Wow. Yeah. I like. Wonderful. So schools, homes, churches, and just social places. So far. I like this. What are you doing about the forest that was cut down around your grandfather's area? That's what I'm planning. I really want to get my relatives because, you know, I want to start with the people around me. So before I get my team and take them to my home, yet I have relatives who can turn up and do the same. So I'm thinking of convincing them. I hope it's going. It's not going to be hard for me. I hope they're watching right now. Just look at them straight into their eyes and tell them family. I really hope it's not going to be hard for me. And the people of that particular area. Yeah. I want us to do and to re-forest the place and plant more indigenous trees, not in this case here. I like. What is your take on trees, growing trees as a cash flow? It's the thing that is affecting us, actually, because we have seen a lot of these meeting bow, blue gums and the rest, because those are the trees that give money. You can't tell someone to plant indigenous trees for money because indigenous trees take time to grow. Indigenous trees don't have value as blue gums and the rest. So I don't let people do business in other fields, please. But not with wood. Please, please, please. Just do business in other places. It's not in the environment. I really hate, I hate blue gums, not because they are bad. They're also trees.   A lot of water, exactly. Yeah. So it's really important if we just try and fail blue gums, like the people in Kisya are doing, the people in Kerechua had also started the same. So I would really like if people do that and do business elsewhere. Elsewhere. Let's not play around. We have oil. Do it there. If you have oil, do it there. Exactly. If you can cook, do it there. Let's not play games. Fashion, just do it there. Let's not play games in our environment. All right, when it comes to issues of environment, the people who are affected the most are the younger generation because they are the people who will have to live with the effects of what the older generation are doing to make money as we speak. So is there a program where you're incorporating the people who are younger than you to join in the movement? So we are working with a number of partners like the team environment Kenya in the greening schools program, which is a very, very important program that is creating awareness among kids and other people. And also what I really try a lot is now about my age. Leave alone younger than me because the scientists said that we have 11 years for climate change to become irreversible. 11 years time I'll be 30. So nobody can convince me that, you know what? It's not going to affect you. It's going to affect someone younger than you. It's affecting me as well. So to people, my age, I normally tell them that as much as you love fashion, you love music. You can't do that. You can't do that in vacuum. It's only in the environment. So you have to conserve. Whether you like it or not, unless you lose your passion, you also lose your passion for music, you lose everything. So there's nothing we can do whatsoever. Music to fashion, to politics without this environment that we have with us. All right, I like that young people are joining in the movement of environmental conservation. And we highlighted the story of the daughter of Wangari Madai, the one Wangari Madai. What does Wangari Madai impact your life and your goal and your vision? What role does she play in all this? Wangari Madai is an inspiration to almost every person in conservation. If you ask them, they'll say Wangari Madai because she really fought hard. When I go to Kaurura Forest, I just imagine what if Wangari Madai didn't, had not fought for this forest. Wangari Madai was a fighter that despite all the challenges she fought and stood hard for the environment. Another thing I like about Wangari Madai is that before people knew her, she was conserving. She didn't do it for fame. Yeah, she didn't do it for fame and everything else. So that's what I like about her. So, but when people tell me our Wangari Madai, yeah, it's nice, but I don't like it when people call me Wangari Madai. I haven't done as much as she has done. I may not do as much as she did.  So I'm just following her footsteps. You're just following her footsteps. You don't want the comparison. You don't want the pressure. But no, the comparison is bad. But how are you Wangari Madai? No, I'm not Wangari Madai. I'm just an eater. So in me, I can't be someone else's photocopy. And I also say Wangari Madai did a lot that I really pray had that I also get to where she got. But it's work in progress for sure. Yeah, but from Wangari Madai, we learn one thing and I always tell people in conservation, if we don't work together, we are lying to ourselves because you're all working towards a common goal. So the competition, because let me tell you, to be sincere, nobody will tell you, in conservation industry or in conservation field, people compete so much like who is next to the UN environment or who was with NEMA yesterday or who was, and then people don't like partnering. And they post up on social media. Yeah, and what I'll tell people, partnership is everything. Like they say, partnership for the goals SDG17. If we don't work together, then we are lying to ourselves. We must remember that it's for a common goal. So from Wangari Madai, learn that don't do that for fame. If you want fame outside elsewhere, music, fashion, elsewhere, like I just said, don't do business in conservation. What did music and fashion ever do to you? It's what I have in mind. Okay, business and other things. This is another thing. But it's never for the fame. And the people who are trying to compete in this industry for donor fans and everything, they're in the wrong place and they're doing it for the wrong things, for sure. But I really wish that as you compete, let us see the impact. The impact. If the impact is okay, good. You guys can compete. Yeah. No, no, I can't compete myself. The end justifies the means. Anyway, we are the UN summit for environmental conservation. Don't say. I applied it and I got a very frustrating email. You got a really frustrating email. Yes. But there's always a next time. And you're only 19. And so you have some time on your plate. But we have this and this was going on. First, what did you think about the summit? It's a question from YouTube or the periphery. Let me say the summit is quite well. But as one of my friends says, speeches do nothing. I'll also echo her, speeches do nothing. Speeches do work if only you are working. You see, but from the climate summit I learned a lot from one girl who really inspires me greater. Because if you check on our social media pages, what's happening now is people are like, people now, even one of the biggest people in the world is really abusing this young girl for doing what she's doing. Someone says, I am an environmentalist, but I don't believe in climate change. What's that? It don't make sense. It comes out to talk bad about the young girl who's really trying her best. At her age, Greta doesn't read speeches at her age. She gets it from the mind, meaning she knows what she's doing. She knows what she's doing. She has not been coached by anyone. That's her.  Exactly. So we really need to appreciate her. For people to get to understand what we are talking about right now, let's get a clip of Greta addressing the UN summit, then we'll be back with some more of this. My message is that we'll be watching you. This is all wrong. I shouldn't be up here. I should be back in school on the other side of the ocean. Yet you all come to us young people for hope.  You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words. And yet I'm one of the lucky ones. People are suffering. People are dying. Entire ecosystems are collapsing. We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. And all you can talk about is money and fairytales of eternal economic growth.  For more than 30 years, the science has been crystal clear.  You say you hear us and that you understand the urgency. But no matter how sad and angry I am, I do not want to believe that because if you really understood the situation and still kept on failing to act, then you would be evil and that I refuse to believe. The popular idea of cutting our emissions in half, in 10 years, only gives us a 50% chance of staying below 1.5 degrees and the risk of setting up irreversible chain reactions beyond human control. 50% may be acceptable to you. But those numbers do not include tipping points, most feedback loops, additional warming hidden by toxic air pollution or the aspects of equity and climate justice.  So a 50% risk is simply not acceptable to us, we who have to live with the consequences. To have a 67% chance of staying below a 1.5 degrees of global temperature rise, the best odds given by the IPCC, the world had 420 gigatons of CO2 left to emit back on January 1st, 2018. Today that figure is already down to less than 350 gigatons.  With today's emissions levels, that remaining CO2 budget will be entirely gone within less than eight and a half years. There will not be any solutions or plans presented in line with these figures here today because these numbers are too uncomfortable and you are still not mature enough to tell it like it is.  The eyes of all future generations are upon you and if you choose to fail us, I say we will never forgive you. Yes, the last statement is very strong. We will never forgive you. Is the environment worth all that darkness? Never forgive. Because nature also never forgives. Nature never forgives as well. So Greta is channeling that energy right there. All right, people have chosen to talk about history with mental health issues and everything but I choose to focus. People start talking bad about her and think she has eye problem. People don't listen to what she says. Yes, I choose to talk about what she's talking about. The fact that she's brought to the table and the fact that the effects of what we are doing today are going to be the people who are going to hurt the most. Because what we do today is going to hurt tomorrow and tomorrow we might not be there. The previous generation is the generation that is going to be there. So I choose to focus on what she was talking about. And the points are people have been talking, talking, talking. This year you and Summit, next year you and Summit, the other year. But nothing much has really been happening. I also say before we even look at the leaders, we who are joining Greta in the streets. Did you see the number of people who are joining Greta in the streets? Yes, and they are very young people. As you support Greta on the street, support what she's fighting for. Which is... So at least if it's avoiding single use plastic, start by yourself. Don't go to the street to support Greta just because you want to be on the street to bash out of the government. I like that. What are you doing at your own personal level? Yes, and some of them are even in the streets with plastic plaques. Exactly. Yes, and demonstrating with plastic plaques. Someone has a plastic water bottle and you have a placard written, Refuse Single Use Plastic. It doesn't make sense.  When you go to support Greta, please support what she is fighting for. Exactly. Are you a Greta supporter? Yes, I support Greta and I support what she is fighting for. Our leaders are not doing much. Alright. Speeches, speeches, waiting for a world environment day. For 15 people to surround one tree and call it a day. One tree in 15 social media platforms. So we all think 15 trees were planted. Never. Thank you very much for coming and sharing what you're doing. When and where is your next project and how can people join the movement? Your camera is number four. About my next project, currently I can't say we have one, but we have a partnership with Team Environment Kenya and we are going to aim tomorrow all the way to Sunday for the Greening Schools Program. And then my next 20th for Anita Soina event might be in Nairobi Training TTI, Nairobi Teachers Training Institution. And to join our movement, just check us on social media, especially on Instagram and Facebook, Spice Warriors. We don't know how to be a fully registered member, but we don't have qualifications like you need to have this, you need to have this. For someone to conserve the environment, we just need you and that's all. All we need is you. We don't need any qualifications for you to be able to conserve the environment. Your social media handles so that they can interact with you as well. My social media handles, Twitter, Anita Soina, and on YouTube, Anita Soina. What's on YouTube? Yes, I'm on YouTube. Your project? Yeah, my project. You recommend them and put them on YouTube? I just post a few videos on my inspirational side and then also on a few ways to conserve the environment and all that. And then we also have the Spice Warriors YouTube where we now have most of our activities. All right, thank you very much Anita Soina for coming through. We appreciate you keep pushing, keep doing what you're doing to get to the next UN summit so you can represent your views as well. All right, yes, we've come to the end of Strength of a Woman. We had Anita Soina who is an environmental conservation warrior. That is the right time right there. Green warrior? The green warrior is studio with us. If you know somebody who, a queen in particular who's doing amazing stuff as well, send their information out on our social media handles they're right there below the screen so we can highlight their story. Thank you very much.


We are into agile DevOps transformation, project management, coaching, competency development, and some of the strategic consulting like organization design, cross-functional integration, and governance, those areas. So today, I would like to talk about knowledge that are paradigms. That means, what's the fundamental rationale behind agile, especially? So what I see normally in our consulting is that typically, there is a journey of agile where it starts with more of a team structure and looking at the roles. Then people get into scrim practices, artifacts, the ceremonies. Then they look at engineering practices and more of data-driven practices, size, velocity, quality data, et cetera. Then the culture change aspects. Even though culture change aspects begins a little early, but it takes quite a while to really make the change of the transition. But that's where the highest value and sustenance of agile practices happens. But that's the hardest part we see. What we notice is that the key reason why that's a big challenge is that, can we address the sound, please? So the key reason that we see is typically organizations address about what and how aspects of agile, what needs to be done, how to do, et cetera. And not enough focus on why it needs to be done. Even at team level and much more at management and leadership level. So without that understanding, they get into looking at agile as yet another process model or a framework and a prescription. And then it gets into the similar mode like any other standards and processes. So we thought we should focus more on this. So that's the context I'm going to talk about today. For that, we need to really look at going to the fundamentals. What's the real fundamental reasons why the agile is looked at this way? And if you have to look that, we have to go into the history. If you look at a few years back or a centuries back, we used to have an agriculture era, which was local farmers used to plow in the field. And it was very labor intensive. The challenge at that time was how to mass produce and how to distribute it to the larger part of the world. So in order to solve that, the industrial era came. Mechanization, mass production, with that globalization, manufacturing driven economy, product design, then the challenge moved up to product design and innovation. Whichever companies became good at that, they became the differentiators. And now we are into knowledge era, which is extreme globalization anytime, anywhere, like internet. Knowledge driven industries, economies. Now, challenges moving further up. Thinking, collective wisdom. It's not just about individual thinking. It's about collective thinking in a team, including customers. So whichever organization or group of teams are able to do that better, they get differentiated. So there is a nice statement from Stephen Covey. Everything in this world is done twice, once in the mind and then in the outside world. You know, if you look at that, whatever you want to do in the outside world, first it has to happen in the mind, then in the outside world. So we have kind of mastered doing it in the outside world, in the industrial era. In the knowledge era, it's the challenge of doing it in the mind. And not just in one mind, but in collective minds. So it's the challenge in knowledge era is accuracy and speed of thinking and collective thinking. We have a huge legacy of industrial era, which is, we are not very conscious, but it is driving so much of our thinking, decision making, organization designs, every aspect in the organization. If you look at an industrial era product business, 20% were design creation intensive, and 80% were mass production distribution intensive. Now you come to knowledge era product businesses, 80% are design creation intensive, and mass production distribution is almost trivial. But all of our learning, in terms of, if you look at management, leadership, quality aspects, CMMI, Six Sigma, ISO, which are all come from PMI, for example, from construction industry, all of them have come from a mass production context. And we are trying to apply that into design creation intensive work. That is causing most of the fictions between practitioners and preachers. In the current management leadership, quality management philosophies in software industry, we need to reapply them. Basic principles are still valid. For example, if you look at whole agile, it's influenced by the lean, which has come from Toyota production system, which is a kind of a manufacturing-oriented industry. In fact, I worked in Motorola for about eight years. I worked at Six Sigma. At that time, Motorola was working with SCI and Carnegie Mellon University. I closely interacted with Watson-Prix. So I know how things have come from that paradigm, and how they got become a software standard. But we need to reapply and rethink, because that has come from a different paradigm. So if you have to now go to those fundamentals, we need to ask you basic questions. What is the raw material for software? And I think about that. Any quick thoughts? What's the raw material for software? Yeah, it's more of our ideas, knowledge. They're the raw material. And if you look at, where does the transformation from raw material to finished product happen? Physically, where does it happen? It happens in people's mind, right? It's not happening on computer, because computer is a dumb tool which captures whatever we type. So really, transformation from raw material to finished product is happening in people's mind. This is a very important point to note. So if it's happening in people's mind, how do we know how the transformation is happening? If somebody says, don't worry, architecture is happening, no, we have no clue what's happening, right? So basically, then we have to split that, break into smaller steps, and bring visibility. This is the most important point, because nobody else will know what's happening in my mind unless I bring it out through various ways, either pictures, documents, models, prototypes, communication. Then what's the measuring equipment to verify whether transformation is happening correctly or not? You know, in a physical world, I can take a calipers and measure precisely 10 centimeter plus or minus, you know, one millimeter, whatever. What is equivalent of such a calipers in our context? Any idea? Any thoughts? It's another knowledge body. It's experts, peers, customers. They are the real measuring equipment in our context, because there is no absolute truth here. See, this is a very big context shift. If you look at the knowledge or a product engineering, from raw material to finished product, the object is not physical in nature. And there are no laws of physics governing the engineering principles, like in mechanical or civil engineering. In fact, this is the first time, as an engineering discipline, we are dealing with something where there is no physical object. And we are dealing with transformation engine as human mind, not stereotype machines. This is the biggest paradigm shift. If you understand this, then we'll figure out what to do, how to do in a much more innovative way. So a few contrasts between knowledge era and industrial era. If you look at raw material, industrial era, physical in nature. In knowledge era, it's intangible in nature. Knowledge, ideas, transformation engines, they're stereotype, repetitive. You know, if you look at shop floor, you tune the machine once it stays tuned. And all machines can be very civil.  They're idiosyncrotic. Each one is unique. And their characteristics are changing. Again, very important to notice. From morning to evening, this machine's characteristic is changing based on who says what, what manager gives a feedback. So many things, right? Even more, if you just reflect, every evening, machines are walking out of the door. And next morning, they're coming back, slightly changed because they interact with family, social context. Look at this context. So every morning, we are setting up the shop floor fresh with some kind of new machines. In a sense, the stand-ups are like shop floor setting up meetings. Connect the machines, calibrate the machines, tune that machines so that process starts. Productivity, in industrial era, the fundamental productivity was called touch time of tool. That means how much a tool is touching the raw material to make the transformation happen. That's how the whole concept of shift and all came because maximized the utilization of the tool. Now come to knowledge era. Any guesses? Any thought what it could be? Fundamental measure of productivity. It's called touch time of minds. Because that is where the transformation is happening. See, I may be sitting in front of the computer for eight hours. Nothing might happen because my mind is somewhere else. I may log a time sheet at eight hours, but really nothing has happened on the ground. Because what is important is touch time of mind. That means how much is mind is engaged in this transformation process. That's the real product. So interaction in industrial era, people work around the machines. And in knowledge era, people work with people, including customers. That's why it's very high collaboration, communication. The equation in industrial era was man machine material. You can say 3M. You come to our era. It's 3C. Capable people collaborating with common protocol. In the first place, each of these machines should be capable. But it's not good enough. If they cannot collaborate, projects will fail. You know that, right? I mean, if there are too many heroes or heroines in the project who cannot talk to each other, they may be independently very brilliant, but the project will not succeed. And in order to collaborate, what they need is common protocol. It's not about what is the best process. What is the common process is more important. See, it's not about whether English is the best language, Hindi or Kannada or Tamil is the best language. That doesn't matter. What is the common language in the team? That's most important. So it's about common protocol. Now I want to take you through five key paradigm shifts. There are many, but five paradigm shifts which actually drive home why you should be looking at agile this way. Because agile is really looking at knowledge that are paradigms in a very appropriate way. So first paradigm shift is repeatable process to contextual process. If I ask you this question, what is process? Think of a phrase or sentence to describe process. Somebody comes to you and asks, what is process? You just think of what would be your response. Thought about that? Now let me post few options whether any of these definitions came to your mind. Set of steps to perform to get output from input. Sequence of operations to be performed. Standard way of doing things. Repeatable tasks to be performed. Clearly documented instructions to do a job. Are one or many of these definitions came to your mind? Now do you see from which paradigm these definitions are coming? It's a shop floor. There is a raw material comes, goes through multiple machines, comes out. We are so much influenced by the industrial era because 300 years of industrialization. And we tend to extrapolate that and apply it to the new context. Whereas our context is very different. Because we are dealing with human beings here as the transformation engine and intangibles as the raw material. So small game with mathematics. I want to get six out of these numbers by performing different operations. Can you try? Let's start with simple one. Two, two, two, how do you get six? Two plus two plus two, six, easy. How do you get five, five, five, six? Yes, five plus five by five, right? Then you will get seven, seven as well. How do you get seven? Yeah, seven minus seven by seven. You'll get six. Six, six, six, easy. Six plus six minus six. How do you get four, four, four, two, six? Square root of four. Square root of four plus square root of four plus four. Then you will get eight as well. Cube root of eight. How do you get three, three, three to six? Three into three minus three. You'll get six. Then you'll get nine. Because square root of nine, you'll get eight. Last one, one and six. How do you get that? One plus one plus, exactly. Great. But the moral of the story is if you have variable input and if you want to get consistent output, you need to change the operation, right? In a function f of x is equal to y, if x is varying and if you want to get constant y, you have to change the function. That means we have to constantly change the process because our input conditions are highly variable. So are you looking at repeatable process or consistent outcome? What are you interested in? Consistent outcome. But repeatable process leads to consistent outcome is an industrial era paradigm because input is fairly homogeneous and you tune the machines, you focus on the process, you can get consistent outcome. You come to our context in knowledge era, like in software, input has high variability. People, technology, each project context, it's highly variable. So in order to maintain output consistent process should change, but we have driven repeatable process. So the paradigm shift is focus from, should be on contextual process, not repeatable process and consistent outcome. So this is the new equation for us. So that's one paradigm shift. You can apply it into then, you know, how to look at, you know, each of the project context. Second paradigm shift is process driven to principles driven. See, the variability is so high and we want to get productivity, quality, consistent outcome. Can we define rules and do's and don'ts for all possible cases? Is that possible? Then this variability is very high. Can we define rules and do's and don'ts for all possible cases? Not possible. So how do we manage? That's why values and principle, because they give the broad direction and then people figure out, because these are intelligent machines, they figure out what to do, how to do. And that's where innovation happens. That's why values and principles are so important to internalize and work with that, rather than getting stuck with mechanics and artifacts. This is what happens in a lot of agile things, we know this, because people have been so conditioned to work with prescriptive models. One example, you know, defect prevention as a mechanism people want to drive. In the industrial era, most defects relate to materials and machines. Number of causes are relatively less. If you take poor soldering, now there are finite number of causes, temperature, surface, the soldering phase, material. And once you tune that, machine stays tuned. So defect prevention, you can do through a checklist. You come to our context, most defects relate to human errors. In fact, 80% of software defects are human errors, oversight, it's not that they didn't know technology or they didn't know domain, it's human errors. Number of causes are relatively large, if you take poor coding, so many causes. And defect fix is mostly not physical in nature, it's in about thinking, communication, right? And the personal characteristics continuously change in our context. So how do you do defect prevention? We can't use the old approaches of the industrialization, but we have been driving that in many standards implementation, checklist-based defect prevention. They are useful to some extent, but that's much bigger way we need to look at. Much more than that, I would say, how quickly can we take through learning curve? Because every context is new, every team is new, new context. So how quickly can we take this through a learning curve? That's the most powerful way of defect prevention. That's where in agile, the iterative approach, learn and adopt, learn and adopt cycles in agile, short iterations, retrospectives, they're the most powerful way of defect prevention. So I'm going to the next paradigm shift, touch time of tools, touch time of minds. Normally we do a lot of games and drive home these points, but here, due to lack of time, I'm just giving this, you can try it later. You would have done this exercise somewhere in a different context as well. Essentially you simulate here in this sequential process first, and then in the second round, same two processes you run concurrently in your mind. Basically it's adding two numbers, you do it sequentially versus doing it in parallel. And when you do that, you will see that your productivity drops up to 50% in the second round. That means the moment you are running concurrent process in your mind, your productivity drops so much. And now imagine how many processes will be running in our mind when you come to office. If you just observe for a while, you will know because all the family issues or something happened in the traffic, they all will be still running. We don't know how to stop those processes, right? And come to office, so many processes are running, even the office related processes. Now the most important factor for productivity efficiency quality in software, you know what is that? Single most important factor, it's test time of mind. In fact, when you do that exercise, you will notice that in the second round, when you run concurrent process in the mind, you will make more mistakes. So it's both productivity drops and more quality also drops. And what impacts test time of mind? There are so many. You know, I put few of the causes, clarity vision. For example, if you observe, we struggle a lot with what needs to be done for a long time until we get a clarity. When clarity comes, we can very quickly do that. Emotions have a huge impact, right? Somebody says something, I'm in a very negative mood, I can't work. Positive energy, some days I get up and I feel very exuberant. That day, a lot of things happen. Workplace distractions, emails, stats, you know, phone calls, WhatsApp, all those. Motivation has a huge impact. Interaction with people, how I interact, what feedbacks I get has a huge impact. Mind capacity, this is another very big factor. We are not aware of that. I'll take a minute to highlight that. If you just, you may know, for example, from medical industry, how much of our brain we are utilizing. They say about four to five percent of our brain is actually utilized. And if you observe your own thought process, you will notice that 90 percent of the time, mind will be oscillating between past and future. It will be saying, I should have done that, why that person said like this, or going into the future, I should do this, I should do that, all the planning thing, or fear. You know, what if this happens, what if that happens? Hardly 10 percent engaged in the current moment. Now look at the touch time of mind. Just four to five percent of the brain. In that, just 10 percent. So 0.5 to 0.4 percent of real touch time. Even with that, we are also great. Imagine if you just improve that, what will happen? In fact, we are dealing with a lot of companies on mindfulness. A lot of people are now adopting mindfulness, meditation, yoga, because it has a huge impact on touch time of mind. Now who is responsible for all these things? For the touch time of mind. Individual, right? Somebody else from outside cannot. So major owners is on individual, because they are, as an employee, I am bringing family social contacts as well. I'm not able to detect so much. And nobody else in the office can deal with that. Owners on others, managers, customers, peers, partners, subordinates, they also influence. But the most important factor is that you are one of such others for somebody else. The moment we become aware of that, how we collaborate, how we communicate with others, we change actually. Third factor which influences the organization. Workplace design, organizational policies, all those kind of things. But 80 percent is on individual. That's why I so much focus on self-managed individuals, self-managed teams, because they have to adjust. Then role of scrum master in time boxing, bringing focus, prevention of interference, you know, remove obstacles. All these are actually to improve touch time of mind. It has a huge impact on productivity and quality. So if you understand this rationale, then we'll know why you should be doing. This has a huge impact on leadership, because then leaders need to understand how should I deal with this knowledge worker. Some facts I talked about, almost 80 percent of software defects are human errors. A knowledge worker's productivity varies as much as 25 times based on that state of mind. There are these papers on this. It's not 25 percent, it's 25 times. We can observe our self, right? When I'm not in that mood or my motivation is low, my productivity is so low. Fourth, and the supervised to self-managed. This is a paradigm shift. This I'm taking an analogy. We have actually benchmarked one of the good construction company. They have a different supervisory ratios. One supervisor for every 25 civil construction laborer. One supervisor for every 10 mechanical worker. One supervisor for every five electrician. So what's the moral of the story? Hire the skilled labor, hire the supervision leaders. Now by deduction for software engineering, which is highly skilled labor, we need one supervisor for one engineer. If you have to really manage from outside, manager has to constantly ask now, what's happening in your mind? Is the transformation happening? It's almost one supervisor for one engineer. Practically in other words, each software engineer needs to be self-supervised, right? Self-managing users and self-managed teams in agile. My last paradigm shift, measuring to sensing. This one? This one? That means? Yeah. That means somebody from outside cannot supervise. I need to supervise my own because it's happening in my mind. That means I have to self-supervise, right? Because transformation happening in my mind. So last one, measuring to sensing. I'm taking another metaphor. If you look at iceberg, hardly actually, not even 20%. 10% is visible and maybe 80 to 90% is invisible. It's submerged. But what moves the iceberg? From an outside, if you're not aware, you may think that wind is blowing this way, but the iceberg is moving the other way. Because iceberg move because of undercurrents, which are very invisible. In a project context, what are some of those top tip of the iceberg which are more visible? Any thoughts? What are the visible parameters? Yes, some of the measurements that you have. Efforts, schedule, defects, tools. Those are all visible part of the iceberg. What are some of the invisible part of the iceberg? Satisfaction, okay? Outcome is more visible because it comes to the, as a result, touch time of mind. We don't know how much these people are engaged. Motivation levels of people, how the communication happening in members, collaboration issues. So many things are invisible part of the project. But they are the actually undercurrents, which make or break the project. Have you heard of watermelon metrics? Have you heard of that? From outside, it's all green. If you dig deep, it's all red. You know, project metrics say everything is green, but projects are in deep red. So there are hard aspect, soft aspect. You know, the visible part, which are typically all the measurements, tools, given processes. So much of invisible part, shared vision, motivation, communication, collaboration, team engagement, customer engagement. So many things, which are the much bigger part. But these are not measurable. Tip of the iceberg is measurable. But these are sensible. We can sense it. We can sense the motivation level in team members. We can sense how the collaboration is happening in team. Right? And all this bottom of the iceberg are the leading indicators. They are the cause. And top of the iceberg is lagging indicator. They are the effect. See, defect has happened. Schedule has slipped. What can I do now? Whereas the cause is in the bottom. But we are not able to measure that and we are not paying enough attention to that. Pardon? Exactly, that's what I'm saying. We need to shift the focus into these invisible parts. These are the causes. So management and leadership styles have to shift into more of a sensing part and not just rely on measurements. That's what I'm coming to. So, lot of verbage here. Because of idiosyncratic human beings as the transformation engines and dealing with intangibles like knowledge, idea, et cetera, measurement is a challenge in our industry. We need to first recognize and accept that. What we can measure are perhaps not very significant. We measure so many defect removal efficiency, effort schedule variance, all lagging indicators and we can't manage anything with that. We can do analysis and improvement later but we can't manage. Those which are significant are not so visible, measurable. People experience, motivation, collaboration, level of engagement of people. But they are the most important point. But we can sense them. So the shift has to be from sensing and sense making, from measurement to sensing and sense making, which is a leadership quality. There are slogans like if you can't measure, you can't manage. It's an industrial era paradigm. If you are stuck with that, you can't really manage software projects well because you have to be able to sense much more. Maybe I'll tell a small one story. Yeah, yes. You know, there was one lamp post. It was dark night and there was a person searching for a long time below the lamp post. A passerby came and asked, what are you doing? He said, I'm searching. And he asked, what are you searching for? He said, I lost my gold ring, so I'm searching here. Both of them searched for some more time. They couldn't find anything. Then the passerby asked, did you really lose this here? Then he said, no, no, no, I lost it there, but it's very dark there, so I'm searching here. It's exactly like this current measurement. I can't measure this, so I'm trying to manage by what I can measure, which doesn't work. So focus on visual management in agile is to bring a lot of these soft aspects, make it more transparent and visible. My last slide. So the fundamental of software production. In software production, we are dealing with human beings as the transformation engine, and knowledge as the raw material. First time of minds is the key imperative for higher productivity and quality. Capable people collaborating with common protocol are the critical success factors. And I see agile scrum practices harness these fundamentals very effectively. That's why agile methods are a good scaffolding to build knowledge that are enterprises. You know what's scaffolding? The frames they put up. So I would say agile is a good scaffolding to build knowledge that are enterprises. So with that, I close my talk, focus on why, what and how intelligent machines will figure out. Thank you. We can take some questions because next speaker hasn't yet come. That person has to set up an email. Oh, he's here. Okay, very good question. In terms, what we see is that this mindset shift has to start from leadership and management. And that is the biggest lacking. In fact, managers and leaders hire us and they say go and fix the team. We say 50% problem is fixing you actually. But we can't tell it directly like that. So we, in a surreptitious way, we make sure that they realize this. Because it's a leadership mindset transformation and leadership change or concept change has a role modeling effect. They have to change then the rest people will do. And it has a huge impact on governance measurement because agile teams may be performing, but if the managers are asking the same metrics, setting the same goals, asking the same old questions, they will be driving this team in a wrong way. So we say the 50% challenge is addressing in the leadership layer. Once that happens, things happen. Teams will pick this up very quickly because they are experiencing that. Moment you say that they understand it very well. It is the management and the leadership level. Yes, yes. The multiple aspect, one is education is the biggest thing and creating that awareness. It has to be, they have to realize it. Because it's a lot of issues. That means you have to take them through an experience curve. So we do some games and exercises and show it in actual project. Then they realize it. And once that happens, even the leadership level metrics will change. Because then they will look at in a very different way. Hello, yeah. So we've started using gamifications for that matter and I myself feel as a coach, when you go and tell, this is what benefit you get.  Let's play it. And then you know about velocity and iteration. So that's what I thought. Because every time I've heard one thing that at the top leadership level, they have to change. But how I can, as a coach, how I can change their mindset or probably how I can show that these people change if they do not want to change because I'm the way. Because otherwise I'll move to other organization, which I don't want to. I want to change the mindset within the company itself. So that's what one problem I have. Maybe, Krishnan, you can set it up. You're the speaker? No, sorry. You can set up. So we can, if there are questions, I can take it. Yeah. Understand and then proceed. I would say agile scrum XP are a good protocol, but they need to be used with this mindset. Otherwise we'll convert them into another descriptive process. And people look for, tell me what to do, just I'll do that. They won't apply it in a contextual way. So what is that way that we tell them? Because I've tried the approaches like directly telling them and nobody likes to buy it. So if you tell them directly, then it's like you're hurting their feelings. So how else do you tell? See, telling doesn't work. Asking will work. It's a power of question. You know, the whole coaching is about asking, right? So when I tell something, that response belongs to me. It doesn't belong to them. Instead, if I ask a question and they respond, that response belongs to them. That's the power of question. You build ownership in them. I have one last question. You told that 80% are human errors. So what are these other 20% errors? They are typical not knowing the coding, not knowing the domain, not knowing technology.  Thank you. Thank you very much.


Hello everyone, welcome to another Narx Viva Live video, in this one I'm going to be speaking to you about when the narcissist comes face to face with reality, because this is something that many of you may not have seen up until this point, but for a lot of you it may only be a matter of time until you do finally see that. At some point they will come face to face with reality, it's only a matter of time until they see that, even though as we know everything they do is an attempt to run from it and to also distract you from reality as well.  Of course your life is going to completely change altogether, and theirs is going to get a lot worse, because they have no value of their own, they're getting their value from you, your high value, you have all of the value, so of course if you go somewhere on your own, things are going to get so much better for you, because you have a positive amount of value, they have negative, which means that they can only ever be a leech, a parasite, a bottom feeder, and in fact everything you do when you are around a narcissist, everything that you express, everything that you put out, any amount of value that you try to give, whether it's to yourself or another person, anything that you do, in that moment it gives you a vulnerability, a weakness and opening, it gives access for them to get in, where they can then shoot you down, they can make things measurable for you, because you're putting something out, so they can then respond to it, they can hijack it, even if it wasn't even intended for them in the first place, they can still do that, and this is why, as Ross Rosenberg has mentioned, we should use the grey rock technique, this is where you act dull and uninteresting, normally you might be a very fun and lively person, you like to talk a lot, you like to be out all of the time, very outgoing, but when you are around narcissist, you need to turn that off, you need to stop reacting, stop giving your emotions, especially if you're an empath, because they can become addicted to that, they can become hooked on you, where it's like they need it all the time, they've got to have your reactions, because it's fueling them, it's making them feel alive, and they can distort it in their minds, even though it wasn't even meant for them, they can look at it as though it was, as though it was about them, and then that fuels them, it makes them feel better about themselves for a moment, and this is why you need to shut that off, stop reacting to them, stop giving them that supply, when you are around them, you have to grey rock, be boring, be dull, be uninteresting, don't give that to them, because they're just going to see that as a way for them to get in, and then they're going to be negative, and by doing that, they're taking value away from you, and they're making you think in your mind, they're distorting your thoughts and beliefs, they're making you think that what you're giving, what you're putting out is no good, that it's not a value, that it's bad, and yet at the same time, they're happily taking it, they're receiving it from you, and they're downplaying it at the same time, and here's the thing, if it's not that good, then why keep coming back to it? Why keep taking what you're giving out, but again, they can also switch things up on you as well, they can give you false praise, they can act like they're happy for you when you're succeeding something, when you graduate, when you get a new job, but if you look at them carefully, you will see they are actually very bitter, very resentful, they don't like it when you do good, when you succeed in anything, they can't stand it, all they can ever do is be fake, that's why they have a false character, they constructed a false reality, but sometimes they do come face to face with a reality, and that's any time that they see you doing something real, where you're actually making the most of your qualities and abilities, and you're achieving something in real life outside of their fantasy world, and not only that, but when they run into other people as well, they may come across someone who isn't an enabler or fly monkey, so they may be grounded in reality and they're seeing things as they actually are, they may even see what the narcissist is doing to you, they may recognize that, and if you're lucky they may sit down with you and talk about it, or they may even confront the narcissist in front of you, and if you get to see that, that is a moment that you will never forget, because it's something that can be very empowering for you, it can be confirmation, or it may be the very thing that wakes you up to the truth and brings you back into reality, and the reality is that they have been manipulating you, lying to you, grooming you, abusing you, keeping a code of silence about the abuse all of this time, and you didn't even realize it, the entire time you didn't even know, and sadly for a lot of people, this could have been since your childhood, it could have been your entire life, and right now you may be in your 20s, your 30s, your 40s, whatever it is, and you feel like your entire life has been robbed from you, because if you had known, if you had been aware of it, you could have taken advantage of your qualities and abilities for all of that time, so yeah you missed out on a lot and it's because the narcissist was so envious and jealous, it's because they knew life was never going to be like that for them, so they had to keep you down, they had to downplay you, they had to keep you down yourself, all of that time, they kept you down, making you feel less, making you feel bad about yourself, as though you weren't that special, you weren't that great, and of course when you realize this, when you really wake up to it, the first thing you want to do is just get away from all of it, you want to go somewhere else, you want to find new people, and you want to do new things, you want to be about something else, you want to be around someone who actually recognizes and reflects back to you your own value, instead of someone who has to like manipulate and gas like you, I make you believe that you're not as great as you actually are, because you've had to deal with that your entire life, and so when you finally wake up, you don't want to go back to sleep, because now you realize just how great you are, but here's the thing, they don't want you to know that, they don't want you to know just how special you are, I'll tell you what they do want, they want to have this incredible amazing wonderful person who comes with all of these great gifts, all of these qualities and abilities, and they've got so much passion and enthusiasm, and they want that all for themselves, they want to contain you, they want to keep you in a box, they want to isolate you where you have no one else outside of their world, and then they can keep you all for themselves and exploit you for these gifts, these qualities where you don't get the reciprocation for your true worth, so they can just give you nothing or the bare minimum to keep you around, to keep you trapped, because they've downplayed you, they made you think you're not as great as you actually are, so then you're stuck there like a slave to them, it's kind of like Cinderella, and it was quite an old movie, but yeah, it's a lot like that, whether you're a woman or a man, it's the same thing, yeah, you're so much greater than what they led you to believe, but that's not why they created the false character, the false reality, of course, that came long before you, they already had that before, because maybe they compared themselves to someone else long before you came around, there may have been someone else who was at a similar level to you, who knows, and they felt inferior to that person, so then they decided to abandon who they actually are, but they believed that they weren't good enough for their parents, caretakers, whatever it was, they created this false character to exist in a false reality, and then they have to pull other people into that, and then later on they targeted you, and they had to pull you into that reality as well, they had to impose a false character upon you to make you believe that you are less than who you actually are, that's how they do it, and of course anytime that they have to witness reality, the reality of just how great, just how special you actually are, and just how insignificant they are, anytime that they have to witness that, it's like the shock of their life, they can't deal with it, whether it's you or it's them, whether they realize just how worthless they are, or just how incredible you are, or both at the same time, which is something that typically happens, when they have to witness that, it will cause a narcissistic injury, which means that in that moment they can become dangerous, and they may try to take you down, just in that moment their false character, their false reality is being threatened, you're rejecting them and you're exposing them, so of course they're going to want to destroy the threat, because in that moment they feel like they're nothing, they feel like they're just a joke compared to you, and I think it triggers them because it's a trauma response to a situation that happened in their childhood, a very long time ago, and this may have been with their parents or caretaker, it could have been with another child in their school or wherever it was, but in that moment in their childhood, they felt as though their true self, who they actually was, was not good enough, they felt threatened, so then they decided to create the false character, because they believed that they weren't enough in that moment, and when you come along and they have to witness you, it just brings that up all over again, only this time because they're using the false character, but now it's even worse, because it's like, who I was, who I actually am as a person, who I was as a child, that wasn't good enough, so I created this false character using bits and pieces from other people, and they put that together, this concoction, and now in my mind this is what's desirable, this is perfect, and yet it's still not being accepted, it's still not good enough, it's how they see it, because you've got to understand, because they're emotionally underdeveloped at the the emotional state of a toddler, because of that they never grew out of black or white thinking, so to them everything is black or white, right or wrong, good or bad, perfect or flawed, and of course a long time ago they deemed that their true self is completely flawed, it's bad, so then because of the black or white thinking, they then develop the false character, which is meant to be this authoritative, powerful person, they're always right, they're never wrong, they know everything, everything about you, everything that there is to know, and they never make a mistake, they're always perfect, they're always right, never wrong, never bad, never flawed, but then anytime they have to witness you, you succeed in, you doing good, especially once you manage to get away from them, you can no longer be that reference point, and then they have to look at themselves and realize that even the false character is flawed, and it's flawed because it's not even real, that's why it's flawed, because it's not generated from within, and not only that, but in that moment they're also triggered to reflect on the true self, which as we know in their childhood they already deemed the true self to be not good enough, to be all bad, to be completely flawed, so when they're having to reflect on that, of course in that moment they're going to become dangerous, they're going to feel like they're in a fight for their lives, in that moment it is life or death to them, 199 live viewers, I'm seeing only 21 thumbs-ups, if you're finding this video helpful please hit the thumbs up button down below, but yeah this is how it happens, this is what they do, looks like I got a friend here, little cats come in my way, I let them touch me, but I never touched them myself, because you never know they might have a disease, but this one looks quite healthy, but yeah this shit gets pretty deep, but you really go into it and you explore it, and if you really look back, I mean if you're able to, if you have any knowledge about their experiences in childhoods, what happened to them, it will all make perfect sense, you will realize, you will understand why they felt like they weren't good enough, and why they abandoned their true self, you will see it, you will understand it, and it will all make perfect sense, of course that's not to say that we had a perfect childhood, none of us had that, but we were strong, we were able to deal with it, somehow we held on to ourselves, we held on to the true reality, I mean yeah we experienced a lot of shame, a lot of guilt, a lot of feelings even of not being enough, we had to go through that, and it was hard, it was difficult of course, but we got through it, we got through the rejection, the abandonment, even if it was for our own parents as well, and that's how we still have this power, this energy that we are able to generate from within, that's how we still have that, and that's why they don't have it because they chose to create a false character and construct a false reality, they chose to do that, they made their beds, now they have to line it, we're not responsible for that, and there's really nothing we can do about it, if someone wants to go and abandon who they actually are as a person, now then they have to have a false reality so that they can continue to exist, if someone wants to go and do that what can we do, what can we say, because of course they're in denial, there's nothing that you can do to penetrate the illusion and to get them to see sense, there's nothing you can say or do to get them to see that, all we can really do is try to avoid getting pulled into it ourselves, because as soon as you do that you will begin to feel weak, you will begin to feel like you're not who you actually are, like you're less than the real you, and yet once you get away from it you will begin to feel so much better, you will begin to feel like more who you actually are as a person, and that's why so many therapists and coaches on YouTube, that's what they advise, is to go no contact, walk away, but you do need to be very careful when you do that because as I said before that will threaten their false character, their false image, their false reality, and then in that moment they're going to feel completely worthless and insignificant, they're going to feel like a piece of crap, a pile of shit, they're going to feel like a piece of gum at the bottom of your shoe, they're going to feel like just absolute garbage, they're going to feel, they're just not going to feel good at all, and of course when people don't feel good, they do silly foolish things, in that moment they're not thinking, they could be very impulsive and reckless, they could be very unpredictable, you never know what they might do next, and that is why if you do decide to go no contact, if you are moving on and things are getting better for you, as they probably would, if you're moving on and you're doing that, take this advice, you do need to set strong boundaries, maybe cut communication, block them on all platforms, but then at the same time you need to have a strong support network, and also be aware that they may make something up, a false accusation, they may go to the police, they may take you to court, because they're very jealous and they can't stand to see you getting away, they can't stand to see you moving on with everything that you are, the value that you have within your qualities and abilities, everything that makes you you, they can't stand to see you moving on with that, and yet at the same time of course it's very confusing, because it's like, hold on a minute, I thought I'm nothing, I'm no good, so why would you care if I walk away with this, if it's not worth anything, and that's how you know that they've been lying to you, they've been manipulating and downplaying you the entire time, that's how you know that, that's why they're so jealous, it's why they're so competitive, it's why they can't stand to see you walking away with everything that you are, everything that you have, that's why they can't stand to see you doing that, that's why, but that is exactly what I want for you, I want to see you getting better, I want to see you moving on, I want to see you living your best life and becoming the best version of yourself, that's what I want for all of you, and I hope that you want that for me too, because that's also what I want for myself, I want, I want to become more intelligent, more aware, more knowledgeable, and I want to build up a greater defense against narcissists and anyone who tries to threaten the, my health and my existence and my life, and yeah I just want to become the best version of myself, I want to live my best life, I just want to become the best version of me, and I want to continue making these great inspiring motivating videos and putting them out for all of you to watch, I want to continue meeting cool people who like me, who support me, who are about what I'm about, and yeah I just want to continue to become more successful, that's what I want for myself and my life, and I want that for for you too, those of you who do want that as well, but yeah it isn't all just fun and games, what you've got to understand as well is that it's not just about the narcissists coming face to face with reality, and then you get to have the last laugh on them, that's not always how it is, because that's going to irritate them, it's going to injure them, and they're not just going to let you walk away, of course once you've injured a narcissist, ego, dignity, and false sense of pride, that will eat away at them, it will build up these emotions, this anger, this frustration, and then they're going to want to come back and take you out, they're going to come back to get you, and when they do that, all they're really looking for is just a reaction, if they do come back to try to take you down, because you've just presented reality to them, and they do not like that, they want to continue to live in their false reality instead of being confronted with the true reality, so of course they're not going to like it when you do that, and that's why they will come back to try and attack you, that's why they will come back to try to take you down, and when they do that, all they're looking for is a reaction, the hoping that you're going to be sad, you're going to be crying, you're going to be in tears, you're going to be miserable, you're going to be hating yourself with your life, you're going to, the hoping that you're going to think that everything you did, everything that you tried to achieve in your attempts of moving on, all of that was a waste of time, and instead you should just give up on yourself and your life, and give up on trying to move on, give up on trying to leave them, and in their minds give up on trying to compete with them as well, because that's how they see it, they see it as a competition, they see you as their enemy and opponent, so that is their perception of it, that's why you've got to have the strong boundaries, the support network, and be very careful with the courts and the police, because as we know Nazis do like to use that, so be very cautious, it's the same cat again, I actually saw this cat earlier on before I began filming this video, me and the cat together, I would like to stroke the cat but I think it's a stray, so you never know I might have a disease, anyway my battery's getting low now, so I should probably end this here, but yeah I hope you enjoyed this video, I hope it brought you the information that you were looking for, that you were seeking, and if it did please hit that thumbs up button down below and let me know what you think in the comment section, I am reading your comments every day, I try to respond to as many as I can, of 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