It is, and people probably won't understand that here because this is my space's account, Giselle's spaces, so there's no reference to Pride and Prejudice or Elizabeth here. Well, there you go. I'm cultured. I'm cultured. I noticed that. I caught that.  Okay, okay. Mr. Darcy, I'll let you speak. So Mr. Darcy. So yeah, you can do anything. You can take this any direction you want. I don't care, but I mean, I will say that, you know, you're interesting because for a while I thought you and I were friendly, but then you also came at me pretty hard with, I don't even remember what, and I know it's all good. It was a dare diary entry. I mean, I've been meaning to actually send in more. I'm completely fine. No, no, I like it. Yeah. Fine. No, I just to finish my thought. I'm totally, I'm just forgiving people context. I'm totally cool with it and I just wanted to share it.  I thought, okay, we're vibing. We're friendly. We're like, you know, just Twitter interlocutors talking a little bit in the DMs about philosophy and religion and stuff like that here and there. And then also recently came at me hard with, I don't even remember what it was, but you were like coming at me hard and very critical and very aggressive, but I respect that. So let's do it. Okay. Well, I'm glad you didn't take offense to that. Well, actually, I wouldn't have even cared if you took offense to it. It would have been more interesting if you've got a bit offended, but obviously you, and you interpreted my tweet as being offensive as well, that I came hard on you and this and that. So it wasn't, it wasn't really to annoy you. Actually, it was more just sort of matter of fact analysis of the space and how I felt. Well, I like it actually.  I was very surprised and I was laughing myself to the mic. I was laughing with the mic off. I'm getting feedback. Yeah. There was someone who you like, I was thinking like, man, this guy's really rambling and you like jumping really quickly and really aggressively. The independent Muslim. So in any event, the point is I like that you're aggressive in general. And you know, this is the public sphere. I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to have good conversations with real thinking people about whatever we want. So do you have any friends who you converse with on the level that you want to? Or do you think friendships are just more light hearted? You don't really want to talk to your friends about these things that are all up in your head. You know what? That's funny that that's funny that you ask is this tweet that you've selected as the pretext for the conversation tonight actually was now that you have me thinking about it. It was inspired by my friends and my change of my life, social life lately here. And here's the story that kind of is the background. I just had my 37th birthday. So you know, I'm an old man now. I'm not, I'm not cool anymore. I'm not young.  I'm 37 years old. I have a kid now. And, you know, I had a birthday, a little gathering, a little dinner, just a few of my close family friends, like two nights ago, this was like Saturday night, me, my wife, got a babysitter and like just like three couples that we're close friends with who have kids also. We went out for dinner. And I like felt the need to take LSD before I went to dinner. And it was like a, it was like a fancy, it was a really fancy restaurant. And it was like, I didn't take a lot of LSD, but like two, like one or two hours before dinner, I just impulsively without thinking about it at all.  But I didn't really think about it. And nothing bad happened. It was nothing bad happened at all. And it was fine. It's like whatever. But in retrospect, the next day after I was like, what the fuck's wrong with me?  Like it was just weird. Like I just do things that are weird. And like there's nothing wrong with doing that. But just to focus on the anecdote that you've shared, and you said that these were very sort of normal, successful people. So in what way are they successful? What do they do for a living? Oh, I don't, I don't mean, I don't mean like exceptionally, you know, and plus I know you don't want to dox your friends either.  Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't mean, I don't mean any kind of grand or famous success or anything.  No, no, no. So there's no like kind of like career comparison or anything like that. But these are just like, you know, like basically solid, good, these are people I go to church with, like these are just good, really nice, good people, good families like Do you go to church high as well?  No, I've never done that. I've never done that. No, no, I don't think that would be bad to do. Honestly, I don't think that's like sinful, but I don't do that. I've never done that. And so what is, so I was just like an example of like, I don't want to be like that anymore. I just want to be normal. I just want to be normal. Okay. So this was this tweet then was in the context of you, of your kind of drug use. Is that what it was then that you want to change your lifestyle now you want to change what your body ingests? I guess is that what what it is? No, no, no, you're kind of overreading it with there. Like that was just the proximate cause that was like a little pretext that kind of inspired it. But no, no, I don't have any problems with drug use or abuse or anything. And this is not completely about that. It's just that was kind of the a recent little episode that like kind of has me in this mood. Like I just want to be normal now. I've been weird long enough. Well, can I just say something that you sound like you are about to cry? No, I'm not. No, no. Are you sure? You sound pretty emotional. No, no, that's I promise you that that's not true.  And that's also like weird. Like I want this is what I mean. I just want to be normal and chill, like not emotional. And so no, but in this moment, no, and where do you get your LSD from? And what other drugs do you usually take if you do? Well, the thing is, I only use drugs pretty infrequently and I use them very, very judiciously. So usually I get them from like some random sketchy person, but then I have them forever because I only use them so slowly. So like this LSD I've had in my house for like, I've had it for like three years. I just got it from a buddy like three years ago. And I just microdose like once every in a blue moon.  And I have a kid now. And so it's like, you're really not supposed to ever be on that side. I've seen that in a lot of your recent tweets. It's maybe been a year now that you kind of just keep saying every now and then that, oh, I've got a kid. I've got a kid now. And I've got to do this. I've got a kid. And things change when you have children. Yeah, it's kind of annoying.  I try not to do that. But the reason I sometimes, I know, well, it's the reason I sometimes pepper that in there is because it just changes everything.  Like it's, it's, it's hard. It just changes everything. So I try not to talk about that in detail. Like I don't post pictures of the little, a little guy or anything like that. But it's like the main thing that I think about in terms of like, how it changed it, like how, how, how I should act and why, why not just, why not just behave and stop thinking about how you should behave? Well, no, that's what, that's what's happening as of today with my tweet. That you're absolutely right. That's my point of my tweet. Right. So that was a, now I'm just normal without talking about it. That was an indirect way of saying you need to be less philosophical about things and more just doing things and, and, you know, resorting to action. Yeah. And you know what else it is in all honesty?  Like it's just basic amateur vanity is what I am.  Do you consider yourself, do you consider, sorry, I'm going to have to keep intervening because you, you are kind of speaking a lot when you, when you ask the question, which is fine. It gives me a lot of things to think about and ask you questions. But no, no, no, you can carry on, but I will carry on intervening if you know what I mean. You be you. And I will do what I'm already doing. Great. So my question to you is, so you've said that you are sort of self-obsessed and you think about yourself a lot. So do you think that you have a good, we're going to talk about looks and things like that in a bit, but just before physical appearance, let's talk about your personality.  Like that's fine. Like if you want to say, yeah, I really do like myself. That's great. But you know, what is the honest response to this? Um, I would say, um, like, no, like I like in the past, like five to 10 years, like I don't like my personality. Like that's what I'm starting to realize is like, as I get older, I'm just like, I'm getting more, I'm becoming more Christian and I'm becoming more like, Oh, are you becoming more Christian or are you becoming more gay? Because I feel a lot of men are now becoming, no, no, no, no, I genuinely think that homosexuality is really, really on the rise. And I know that, uh, yeah, no, I'm not, I'm not, they talk about how the Islamic world is like really good because they don't really have all of these problems. But no, it's, it's a pervasive thing that homosexuality is on the rise everywhere. Right. All right. No, I'll answer your question. I'm not at all, yeah, I'm not offended. I'm not offended by the question, but I'll answer very honestly and emphatically. Um, yeah.  I've never really had a gay bone in my body. I've like, I've like, tried thinking about like, I've been told that many times. How do you know that? How do you know that? Because I've watched you.  I think I can, I can, I can, I've cancelled all my transcripts. I only have you in my inbox now. Oh, that's very kind. But I can assure, I can assure you that I'm not gay because I periodically think about a naked man to see if it makes me horny.   But in all seriousness, and I mean that, I mean that was serious. But the larger point I wanted to make was just that like, I mean to realize how my entire life up until now was obsessed with just like vanity and gaining power and influence.  I think if you're a young man, it's kind of like it's, it can be fuel and, you know, have a, have a chip on your shoulder and, and to be driven by things like the desire for vanity and money and power and getting chicks and stuff like that. I think, I think it's like, it's not, none of those things are good. None of that is like ethical or justified. But you can get away with it when you're young. And like, as long as you grow out of it, it's okay. But I'm 37. And it's like, I haven't actually grown out of those things. And that's what I'm coming to. That's what I'm talking about here is like, I want to, I'm realizing this. And I really do think this now and feel this that like, there's just a lot of my motives and my actual kind of like, pathetic, self-obsessed, like vein motives, like from youth are still dominant in my psyche. And I hate them.  And I, so I know I have not, I don't like myself over the past like, five to 10 years, because, you know, I, I should have gotten those things out of my system, but they're still in it. And that's why I'm like, I just want to be normal. And I'm letting go all of that. And I'm like really trying. Yeah. But do you think that's, that's a cover story?    And, you know, you've been, you've been working really hard to pump out a lot of content.   Whereas most people, if they're in this game, they're really obsessed with kind of having their almost like their own branded worldview, and they won't be able to see beyond that. So do you think it's it's a bit of a kind of feeling of you didn't get to where you wanted? Do you think that is a resentment, not a resentment, but a kind of fact that kind of depresses you? Yeah, no, I think that's an interesting question. That's a very pointed question. So it's good. I thought about that a whole lot, you know, because like one of the reasons why I like don't want to get to put it like, okay, one of the reasons I've been clinging to my kind of useful vanity motivations is because they have gotten me quite far. They've energized me and I kind of fueled myself on those those vain, useful motivations for my entire life. In fact, those are the only motivations I really know in a way. And they've got me quite far. And I've been quite successful. And when I think about, you know, really, really trying to conquer them all and put them put them all behind me, because I do think that they're they're bad and essentially fake and evil. I one of the I grabbed with them the most, but then the reason why I clung to them longer than I should have is because what I tell myself is what you kind of implied in your question. That's exactly it. It's like, oh, Christianity and this kind of humility is actually just like cope. It's cope for people who like are going to give up on life and give up trying.  And of course, that's like the whole. Okay, well, that's the whole Nietzschean just to finish my thought real quick. That's very Nietzsche, you know, you can't finish your thought. I was just going to say another way to think about that is that, you know, humility, it's not necessarily a kind of strategy for people to not achieve what they really want in life. A lot of celebrities use humility to push themselves even more, you know, they have to portray a very kind of humble persona to ultimately get what they want. So and I'm not accusing them of necessarily even being fake. I think they just do that. And they find it to be a winning strategy for their careers. I mean, it's easy to be humble if you've got loads of money. Like, I could do that easily. I could, if I was a millionaire right now, and somebody told me, you just need to be humble. Yeah, of course, I'll be humble. Yeah, well, look, maybe the answer is I don't know. I don't know. Go ahead. That was just another way of thinking about it, but a cynical way of thinking about it. Luke. Yeah, hi, Justin. Luke Ford. I was just curious, what role, does Christianity play in your life practically? Well, I go to church every Sunday, and I would say that it just like in my own life, it like I have found that like the farther I've gone into it, the more like healthy it has made my mind and the better person it has made me like in my personal case, like I just I feel that. So for me, I'm just like continuing to kind of bet on it because it's it feels true to me. And how is your life different? Like, how do you behave differently? I assume perhaps a little more inner peace or talk to me more about how it practically demonstrates itself. I'd love to know. Yeah, sure. I mean, it's kind of what I was saying before is Elizabeth.  And I mean, not I wouldn't have never said that exactly. But in retrospect, I can be I sense see that like vain, really vain childish motivations were like dominant in my psyche. And to some degree still are. And I'm but now I'm starting to find it. I'm starting to find it actually ugly, like I'm actually repulsed by myself sometimes in a real way. Have you been to a therapist? And do you still have a therapist? Hell no, I don't go to therapist. So do you do because you're talking about your psyche and things that are probably subconscious and these these manners of these behaviors that that were in you when you were younger and these worldviews. But now you change whatever the fact that you've not changed, but you're aware of these things now. So a lot of people, they have to go through therapy to bring those things to the surface. But you can you kind of manage to do therapy for yourself. Is that fair to say? Well, I don't know. I don't know if I give myself so much credit for that. I don't know. I mean, I think therapy is kind of you're introspective enough. You know, I know, yeah, therapy is fake, whatever. But what I'm saying is okay, we don't have to call it therapy. We can just call it introspection. So do you think that you have the power of introspection? You don't need somebody else to help you get there? Well, I guess maybe. But I think God has helped me actually. Like, I mean, I don't know exactly what that means. But I do have a sense that something like that is true because I don't think you can do the I don't think you really do these things for yourself. I think that's kind of like egotistical to say, like, oh, I've like worked on myself in my own head on myself by myself. Like, I actually don't think that that really happens very often. Like, usually, you know, we do sometimes get help. We get help from like forces that we don't fully understand. And I don't like to kind of like speak about that more confidently than makes sense. You know, but it sure seems like something like that, you know, can happen. And I'm going to I'm going to let Luke Ford ask you a few questions. And I'm just going to use myself. So you are the interviewer for the next three, three, four minutes. Thank you. Thank you so much. Okay. Justin, did you have a conversion experience? Or was there something that made Christianity real to you? No, I never really had some like big epic moment. Honestly, I was raised Catholic. And then I kind of like left it after I was confirmed, like many people guess for like, you know, from like 15 years old to 25 years old, probably. And then around when I was around 25, I started kind of drifting back to it. And it's just been kind of steadily increasing since I was about like 25 and 37 now. So it's like, at this point, you know, I'm starting to feel like it's just like more clear to me and more I feel more strongly about it. Now, I think most people should be able to get their primary meaning from their family. But then there are people who are addicted to thinking and theorizing. Perhaps like yourself, certainly I feel that the same way. So I cannot just be content with just, you know, family friends, I need to be with intellectuals or I need to be engaging with ideas. Where do you primarily get your sense of meaning? Is it primarily from family? Or is it primarily from the pursuit of truth? Well, that's an interesting question, because, you know, I do get a lot of meaning for my family, for sure. I would say it's like the, you know, the basic source of everyday life's, you know, meaning and purpose in a way. But if you look at like my life overall, my entire, like my entire kind of drive and force for my entire adult life has been like the pursuit of ideas. And I've given, I've given all of my adult life to, to study and to writing and publishing research in one way or another. That's all I've ever done. That's all I've ever been focused on. But that's a really interesting dimension to analyze in this context. Because, like, this is one of the big epiphanies I've had in recent years, is that, like, you can pursue, you can love ideas and books and writing and speaking and publishing and these like very bookish intellectual things. And your motivation at the, at the bottom of all of it can be nothing more than, you know, money, power and status. And when I look back on myself, I have to be, like really honest, like the overriding motivation for my life has been to like, you know, gain education and, you know, a command of ideas because of the power that it represents. It's been, it's been a pursuit of power. Like, I come from a working class family. So I knew that I always like needed to get a real job that paid, paid real money. Like I have no safety net.  But I didn't want to fall back to that. So are you close with your, sorry, sorry to, yeah, I know I'm kind of laughing. Yeah. No, I'm not, I'm not sorry to intervene when it comes to you. I mean, Luke, because I was giving him the interviewer sort of role here. But I have a question about the white trash family.  I think you were answering with your current family in mind, like your wife and your child, right? Or did, were you thinking about your parents? Well, yeah, I guess I was thinking about my wife and my child. I love my parents and I have a good family, but yeah. So do you think that your parents are white trash though? I would say that I'm white trash. I would say that I, that's who I am. That's what I come from. That's what, yeah, sure. I don't mean it in a bad way, but it is what it is. No, I know, but you're saying sure, but then you're kind of correcting yourself. Well, because it does, it does down a little.  I'm qualifying because it sounds a little harsh. So that's why I'm qualifying, but yes. Yeah, but which one is it? If you, if you had to answer in a brute sort of way, which one is it?  Why would that be either or? Both can be true. Yeah, that's fine. That's all I wanted to know. Luke, carry on. Yeah, thank you. Justin, I would contend that you cannot be normal because you get so much joy out of abstract thought that any experiences you have with normality will be fleeting. What do you think? Maybe, but I don't know. In a way, this is like why I like this challenge. I mean, it's like a challenge. I feel like being normal is good. Like I think, I don't know. I mean, okay, so you're kind of setting up this, I premise that like, you know, if you're into ideas and you read books and you're smart, you're like kind of special and above all the normies, but I actually, I'm not sure that I think that anymore. Like, you know, like I said, the overwhelming majority of people who study great books and think high flu and ideas are the majority, not all, but the majority of them are doing it for very pedestrian, generic, vain, and therefore ultimately, quite mundane and quotidian purposes and motivations. In other words, for a lot of people, the world of having fancy ideas is literally just another job in the commercial marketplace. And it's actually very generic and it's actually no better or more impressive than someone who works like in any kind of marketplace. And so, I don't know. I'm just in a state right now where I'm feeling like to just I have not. I feel like I've encountered this work somewhere. I think I've encountered it before, but I can't say I'm familiar. So one thing I often say on my show is that one should get one's meaning in life from one's family, extended family, and community. And yet there is this tiny percentage of the population that is so ecstatic from abstract thinking and by no means that I place them above anyone else. It's just a quirk of personality. So I've been talking on my show that you should get a sense of morality and meaning and purpose in life from family and extended family. But then when I talk to people, they come back at me and say, look, when I'm talking to my family and extended family, after an hour or two, I just go crazy and I want to get back to books. And I thought, oh, yeah, I'm kind of the same way. I need to spend time with books every day. I can't meet my normal needs the normal way. I need abstract ideas and the pursuit of abstract truth. And so it's not a thing that by any means I think puts us above anyone else. I just think it's facing the reality of our nature that we cannot be normal due to a quirk in our physiology. I think that's totally fair and correct for many people and totally fine, by the way. I think that's absolutely fine. I'm just adding a little bit of a wrinkle that maybe some people don't like to talk about, which is just that in many cases that desire for the books is a kind of disavowal. It can be a kind of selfish disavowal and a kind of vanity relative to the family. And I'm just admitting, I'm not judging anyone else. I'm admitting to that dynamic being in my own psyche. I am White Trash. It's like who I am. I come from a certain family. And I spent my entire- Are you like Mike Sernovich? You're closer to Mike Sernovich than a Curtis Yavin then? I don't know Mike Sernovich well, but I can speak for myself and just saying that for me, pursuing books and being all fancy and erudite and highly educated and having highfalutin ideas was, for me, it was like my ticket to get away from my poor family and to show the world that I was better than my poor family. And so I'm now starting to realize that actually there's something messed up there and I have to rectify some of that because that's actually not good. We are driven by delusions, delusions of grandeur. We're all the central character, the hero in our own story. So those delusions that you're talking about, everyone's got them. They're just different for some people.  I mean, aren't we all driven by delusions, Justin? I mean, aren't you completely normal in that sense that we're all driven by delusions? Yeah, maybe that's the case. And within a certain constraint, yeah, there's nothing wrong with having, you know, delusional dreams or aspirations, but I don't know. I don't want to sound like I'm special or anything like that, but I feel like personally in my case, I have always really, truly wanted like the truth, like I want to be real with myself and other people.  But I don't know. I try to like seek, you know, I don't know. I don't want to cling to fantasies that are vain and childish any longer than I need to. I think in your youth, you know, certain delusions of grandeur can be mobilizing and energizing. But as you get older, if you cling to them, it can be a really ugly look. Well, but aren't there adaptive delusions and maladaptive delusions? Sure. Yeah, that's true. How do you deal with the brutal reality that intellectual labor almost never pays for itself, that it has to be subsidized? How do you deal with that? Well, I mean, not to toot my own horn, but that's one thing I've actually figured out pretty well, and I'm pretty proud of. Like, I've actually built a little business where, you know, I make a decent income. And I do primarily intellectual labor. I still have to hustle a lot. And I still have to like run a business and do all the logistics and stuff required of that, which is not trivial. But, you know, I am essentially reading and writing and teaching full time, independently outside of institutions.  Like I'm not rich by any means.  So, yeah, I think the future of this stuff is very bright and it's still very early. But how do you balance between making a living and actually pursuing truth? Because the type of content that people want is usually BS. For example, if you were to do a show on the case for aliens, or, you know, why vaccines are bad or why the earth is flat, you'll get an enormous audience. But if you actually pursue the truth and say, you know, the evidence is overwhelming that we have no evidence of aliens, you'll get a very small audience. So how do you balance the pursuit of an audience and an income with a pursuit of truth that has integrity? Well, what I have found is that you, I think, can actually get away with if you just speak the truth and you just work humbly on what is real to the best of your ability, you can actually build enough of an audience around simply that. And if you monetize it correctly, and you can build a business around that, that is, you know, what I believe I've done for myself.  I have a pension for that, I understand. But I haven't, my business model is not built on that. Like I've, I've, I'm not that famous at all. Like I'm quite small, I'm quite, I have quite a modest humble operation. And I'm not like really a member of any tribe. I'm not like, you know, throwing red meat to any particular community on a daily basis. You know, and like, I figured it out. So I think if I could figure out many others kind of as well. Yeah, but on the incentives overwhelmingly, you've got to provide something that the establishment and mainstream institutions do not provide. Therefore, your incentives, I would assume are overwhelmingly to be anti-establishment, to be critical of the, the New York times, the mainstream media, you know, the world of the academy, major institutions, because you have to continually provide an anti-establishment message because that's where your audience is. If you were to say that the establishment is usually right and that the mavericks are usually wrong, you would lose your audience. Is that fair? No, I understand perfectly what you're talking about. I mean, trust me, I thought about this every, every way to Sunday for the past many years. Like I definitely take your point and your right to a degree. But what I'm saying is you can simply choose to not go too far off those deep ends.  And you're just not going to be as big as you would be otherwise. But you can choose to be, you know, just big enough to pay the bills. And like that's kind of how I see my own position. Like I could lean more into the culture of wars. I could be like one of these like certain types of characters and optimize for more viral stuff. But like honest, the truth is like, I probably would if I could, but I don't have it in me. Like I just, it's not who I am. I've never really been able to like fake it effectively hardcore for long enough. So like, you can just- Can I ask you a question regarding some- Sure. So this is regarding some celebrity sort of intellectuals or people who are in that kind of circuit that you are in. So were you hurt by when the Red Scare duo, they sort of mocked you a little bit in one of their podcasts? Oh yeah. Someone said that to me. No, no, I wasn't hurt at all. And of course not. I mean, it's like a comedy podcast. It's fine. But how do you balance the need for connections with say, powerful people who can advance your career and your income with your desire to tell the truth? So generally speaking, people who do what you do are really good at networking, but that comes at the price of saying the truth. How do you balance those? Well, that's what I'm getting at. I've never been good at networking. I've never cared for it. And I'm not, and I'm not good at it. So I don't, like I have very few, I have almost no powerful relationships like for whatever reason. And I make it, I make it, you know, like I'm making it. So it's really just not about that. I mean, I have some, I have some like collaborator, collaborator relationships and some friendships for sure. But I have like, I've gained nothing from any more powerful person, pretty much ever. Like obviously some people like, you know, Did you not gain anything from Curtis Yavin? Because you hosted an event with him. Yeah, I've never received. And he was so underwhelming. You were excellent in that, in that. Thank you. I've never, but he was so underwhelming. I know this is like such a popular thing people love to talk about. But like, I've never received anything from anyone. Like I have people who pay for my products and courses. And I have some paying subscribers. And like, yeah, some, some of a small number of the people who follow me, like our famous or like whatever. But I don't receive like any, like, I've never received any big grant from Peter Teal. I've never received anything from anyone. Like, and that's one of the reasons why I have such a chip on my, why I have such a chip on my shoulder.     Every single thing I have in my life, I've built it and I've worked for it and people pay me for the value that I give them for something. And yeah, so I'm, you know, I'm not, I'm not perfect, but I'm a free man and I have no dependencies. And yeah, that's, that's all. Who's your favorite podcast guest? The other life podcast?  Um, Nick Land is the goat, I think. He's the goat. Okay. Luke, do you want to carry on? Yeah. Have you experienced audience capture and could you describe what that's like?  I'm not, I'm not, I'm not big enough to be captured by my audience.  I've never got big on any one platform. I'm not, you know, so it's like, um, and I don't even, like, and my audience that I have, it's not like it was built on some like, particularly tribal thing.  Like I'm so, I've been so eclectic and kind of, I'm so like bad at the, this like game of like giving your audience what it wants. I'm so bad at that. I don't even know what they want. People follow me for a bunch of different reasons.  It's, it's you being you. So. And you know what? Thank you for asking yourself, if you can keep asking yourself the question, well, what do the people who are listening or what do my audience think, then you won't be able to actually produce the content that you do. It's a bad question for you to ask that too. But I appreciate that Elizabeth. Then I like, you know, I think that's, I think that's absolutely right. Like I'm not saying I'm better than anyone at all.  Insofar as this is like a legible industrialized, like commercial game. I'm not heller at all. I'm not like winning that game. I'm like barely scraping by, but as Elizabeth said, like I'm doing, I like to think I'm doing something very different. For me, this is about all I've ever been optimizing is for like my own freedom and, you know, leisure and, and like I'm winning just enough to pay the bills, basically. And I'm, I'm happy with that. Have you experienced the, the e-personality? Have you experienced a different self as you've, you know, emerged online and had, you know, you're more than your share of success? I experienced like, has my personality changed or what do you mean? Have you experienced the e-personality?  Everyone is more spontaneous. When they go online, they will share darker things and they would share face to face.  Before Justin answers that, I think it would be just interesting for me to offer my analysis here. I've noticed that Justin is very different when he sort of comes into spaces or his kind of online personality, but his, his writing voice is different to his, to his speaking voice and his tweeting voice, if that makes sense. So even though the writing is still an extension of his e-personality, I think that it's even segmented within that e-personality. So I don't know if that helps or but Justin, go ahead. Yeah, maybe. I mean, the short answer to your question is, yeah, like I'm not, I'm not better than, than anyone on that. I do think the e-personality phenomenon is, is real. In my case, like when I left academia four years ago, I basically had this mission of like, okay, I need to figure out how to like get just big enough to like build a big enough audience that I can like pay the bills by doing courses and teaching, you know, the stuff that I study and all that.  And I like tried on many different voices in the past. I've tried on many different formats and content and different platforms. And like I just spent the past four years basically playing jazz and throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what would work to see, to try to find my place, to try to find my voice in a way that would like win on the internet, at least just enough to like, you know, build a viable business operation. But now after doing that for like four years, the mood that I'm in now that I guess we're talking about is kind of the subtext of the conversation tonight is like, I'm looking back on those four years and I'm just like, yeah, a ton of it, like was totally faked and confused and idiotic because I was just like experimenting, trying to find my way. And I was still young and I still had this like, very kind of like, vein, piss and vinegar that I was fueled by and that's fine for what it was. But like, I don't want to run on that forever. And at a certain point, you have to kind of like accept who you are and decide who you want to be and let the chips fall in there. Yeah, so wouldn't the most normal thing for you to do now, wouldn't be to return to academia? No, that bridge is totally gone. I mean, and I would never count this idea. Justin, you said you went online and said anything you wanted, but there's no way that's true because 99 people out of 100 who did that would absolutely destroy their lives, destroy their relationships, they'd be isolated, broke, it would wreck them. So you must have internalized a great deal of discipline that for you going online and saying what you want, I think you're phrasing something that can no way be true because anyone who does that is going to absolutely destroy their lives. So how did you go online, express yourself with great freedom and yet keep yourself from destroying yourself and the people who are most precious to you? Oh, and what's an example of this free expression that you are talking about? What's an example of utilizing a kind of extreme version of free speech? Well, look, I'm not like, you know, claiming I'm fancier or anything.  You're offering this disclaimer that, oh no, I'm not a show-off, I'm very humble, and I'm not better than everybody else. We don't need to hear the disclaimer, just answer directly. Well, no, but yeah, it's not a disclaimer. It's more clarifying that, you know, you can call this stuff whatever you want. Like, I'm not invested in a particular description, but I would say that like, I have like for the past like five or six years, I've kind of like correct. Well, no, what am I saying? Like for my entire adult life, since I was like 18, I've kind of just practiced like what in my own mind I saw as a kind of like anarchistic, cultural, you know, philosophy, like where I mean, I have in fact generally tried to say things in public that most people are not comfortable saying with a certain kind of recklessness.  So like, that's just, again, I'm not saying it's impressive, but it's just it's an example. Like most professors do not, most professors were not using the word retard casually in like 2016. That was like incredibly uncommon. And that's like what Luke's saying in 2016, if you're a professor and using the word retard on Twitter, that's like incredibly reckless, like damaging to your family and networks and stuff. So that was like part of the question. Has this other life, has this other life platform than actually being a kind of reputation management exercise for you? I don't know. I don't know. You'd have to, you'd have to make that, you'd have to say more. I don't, I don't know. I mean, all I've all I've ever really been guided by is this concept of Peresia. There's this, you know, kind of tradition goes back to Diogenes. Jesus Christ was a representative of it, but also Rousseau and, you know, in a way people like Nietzsche were all kind of in this sub-training tradition known as Peresia, where like, you know, every, in all times and places you need some people who basically just try to say what seems to be real, but in a way that's like a little bit more provocative than is allowed. And they have to get punished for it and they have to like pay the price. And I'm not saying, again, I'm not saying that I'm some sort of like, you know, oppressed genius or something like that. Nothing, nothing so, so fancy. It's actually a humble, it's a fairly humble tradition. But that's how I believe it's like, how did you avoid blowing up your life? Everybody hates people like every normal person has negative feelings about all sorts of groups. And if they express those feelings publicly, it would destroy them and would hurt their family and friends and community. How did you avoid saying the things that will destroy you online? You said you spoke very freely, but even Justin Murphy experiences hatred of groups. How did you avoid expressing hatred of groups online? Well, I guess I don't really hate groups. So maybe that's why I didn't hate expressive. I don't, I don't really feel hatred for, for like particular groups. Maybe that's, I'm just lucky in that regard. I don't know. But I mean, a more positive answer to your question is that like, you could, if you just lean into it hard enough, you can build a brand around it. And that's kind of what I did, I think over the past like few years is like, you know, I, I realized that I was like, I have this tendency to say stuff that gets me in trouble. So I just decided to lean into that and like bet my whole life and career on it. Like that's what I did. And most people aren't willing to make that gamble, I think. And that's, that's why it doesn't work. So it's like, this kind of thing only works if you're really willing to go all in on it. And I, to my credit, I did do that. Well, what about group differences? It's like the most obvious truth in the world that you can't say publicly that say, for example, the gifts of Ashkenazi Jews are not identical to the gifts of people in West Africa. And you can say it publicly. You can say it publicly. Like you, you can. I have no problem saying that. And many people have no problem saying that nowadays. Like back in, back, you know, back when I left academia, it was like much more spicy to say that now it's now it's much less spicy to say that. So my point is like, sure, there are all these like truth statements that are generally prohibited. And if you say them, you will get fired and you will, you know, be seen as a pariah in certain circles. But what I'm telling you, I mean, to answer your question is that there is this other pathway, which is reproducible. And it does work. It is demonstrably an option. And it is demonstrable throughout history. It's not easy, though. It's, it's hard and it's difficult. Not most, most people do not have the heart for it. But there is this option, which is you just choose to say whatever you want. And if you're willing to go all in on it, you can get away with it and you can build a brand or add it and you can make that your life. Here's one example of how I've seen people self-destruct, including professors online. They go online, they get a taste for giving their opinions. And soon they're starting to make proclamations about books and articles that they haven't even read because they've become so confident of their own wisdom and clarity. I assume you've avoided that pitfall. And if so, how did you do it? Well, as I was saying before, in the past four years, like when I was like scrambling to, you know, build a business operation that could sustain a small family, like after leaving academia, I'm not above anything. Like I tried everything in the book. So I made every mistake there was.  And, you know, maybe I didn't have, I didn't have the knowledge to back it up. I'm sure that in the past four years, I made every mistake in the book for the reasons that I was going over. You know, like it's been very chaotic few years and I've had to really, you know, scramble and hustle hard and try a lot of things. So that's one answer is that like, I'm probably, I've been guilty of that at times as well, I'm probably no better than anyone.  Like that is, and that is why Christianity is so real to me is because what it really comes down to is like, everyone has to choose, do you want to optimize for money and power here on earth? Or do you want to optimize for being a deeply, genuinely true person? Like you really do have to choose. And at the end of the day, there are no excuses. There are no life hacks. There are no lessons. There are no, you know, tips and tricks about how to balance this and that and how to, how to make a million dollars, but also be a perfectly true person. Like it really just comes down to the choice of like, which do you value more? You have to choose.  You cannot avoid that choice. That's like one of the most radical things that I've taken from kind of the Christian philosophy that I just increasingly see as, as absolutely profound and correct and unavoidable.  And I justified that because I was like running away from something, which it's like legitimate to run away from. But now like, I have a little bit of money. I have a decent audience.  I'm like, still very small in like, all ways. But I have a little bit of money. I have a little bit of an audience. I have just enough to like pay the bills.  So now is the time that I have to choose being truly, truly good and correct and truthful in all things. And the money will just have to figure itself out. Okay, well, can I try and answer? Wait, wait, wait. Can I try and answer Luke Ford's question? How have you managed to balance being very out there and saying what you want with not really getting into trouble? And obviously, you got into trouble in the beginning when, you know, when you were an academic at a UK university. But after that, you've just been kind of flourishing. So I think the reason really is that you do have pretty privilege. You are handsome. If you were ugly, then no one would care about your free speech takes. Well, that's very kind of you, but I haven't updated my picture in a while. I've aged a bit. I should probably, my profile picture is not old.  But, you know, you have a good phase, you're handsome. If you, if you went to the gym every day and you got really sort of bulky, you, you would look so hot. I genuinely think this. Well, thank you. That's very kind. But my point is just that, you know, looks don't stay either, right? Like you can't bank on that either because those decay, right? So that I appreciate it's very kind of you, but it's just not something that you can build your lifestyle on. Like you can't trust that for very long, you know, I'm not saying that you should build your lifestyle on it. It's something that's obviously not obvious to you, but it's obvious to me that your looks have played a role in your, in your, in your ability to say what you want and get away with it. I don't know. I mean, in general, in general, sure, the better you look, the more you can get away to things like that. There's truth to that for sure. And plus, and it's not just about being good looking. It's also, you've got a quite a nice kind face.  I mean, you've admitted to taking drugs in this, in this space, and you probably admitted it many times in other sort of, on other platforms as well.  Well, thank you. But I drug your normal. Justin, one more question that come in way that people self-destruct online is to get into feuds. So have you had to battle with yourself to avoid getting into feuds? Have you found yourself falling into feuds? How have you handled the whole feuding thing? Again, I've made every mistake in the book. And in the past four or five years, I feel like, you know, I've just been, I've always been like a pretty crazy guy. I just kind of say whatever I want. And like, that's, that's another, like, that's another example. Like, I have had feuds, actually, I've had, I've had actual feuds. Like, I threaten no Smith. I will, I challenge no Smith to a boxing match a few weeks ago, like in all seriousness. And it's like, yeah. So you are also influenced by Andrew Tate. Is that what's going on? Well, yeah, God knows we're all influenced by who knows what, right? And that's kind of what, but that's what I'm getting at. It's always obscure with you. You just have, you never answer explicitly. Are you, are you not feeling a bit influenced by Andrew Tate? I don't, I don't think that I am. If, no, if anything, I think I honestly, if I'm influenced by Andrew Tate, it's, I look at someone like Andrew Tate. And I realize. This is amazing. Justin is, is threatening people with boxing matches.  I mean, this is, Andrew Tate is there for a genius sort of market here. If you think about it, because all the people following him now. Well, I have no problem. Yeah, I'm absolutely no problem. Even Elon Musk is now influenced by him. And the influence is that what I'll give you that for sure. He's a sensation without a doubt. But I, I know, I mean, in my case, like if anything, if he's like, I am not made for that game. Like I'm just not made for that game. And that's like, you know, I'm trying, I'm now trying as I age, I'm trying to find my place because you're saying that you are from a, you're saying that you are from a sort of working class background.  Do you know what it is? Look, look, characters and things like that can be fluid, right? Like we can be different people at different points in our, in our lifetime. However, in general, I do feel that you fit more of the character profile of, you know, somebody who's who is a bit of an anti-intellectual. And yet you've, you've taken on this more intellectual persona. You've, you've, this is your cover now. Like you have to now always behave this way, even though at, at your core, you're more of a sort of alpha male. I feel this, and you've kind of admitted to this. And you even said that you used academia and learning about philosophy and things like that as a kind of ticket to, to wealth because, you know, otherwise you would have been stuck in, in, in, in your kind of parents town, suburb or whatever. And this has been your ticket out of it. But now, now that you've made money, maybe you could return to your roots. That's kind of what's going on here. Yeah. I think that's perceptive. I appreciate that. In fact, you should have a look at my cover photo on Twitter, this, this particular account, Gazelle Spaces. It's a TS Eliot quote, which is that, we shall not cease from exploration and at the end of all our exploring, we will arrive to where we started and know the place for the very first time. Yeah. And you know what? It's a circle, a full circle. I think that's great. And, you know, something I want to say to Luke while he's here, and there's like a bunch of people online right now who I am starting to admire more who I find them online where like people who don't have a massive audience, they're not that famous, they're not that big, but they're doing really meaningful work and they're doing it consistently and doing it over, over a long span of time. And they have an engaged audience. And in some cases, they have a small, you know, business operation around it that makes a decent amount of money. But like when I come upon people who are just doing really meaningful, authentic work, and they're doing decently well with the numbers and the metrics and the money and stuff like that, but they're not famous. I've never heard of them. And they're not really on track to be like favorite. They're famous. Now, when I, I noticed that more and I admire it more. And for the past few years, I probably will kind of like, you know, a bit, I don't know, like corny and aspirational in my thinking and my mental models, like wanting to be big and wanting to make more money, all that kind of stuff. And now I like actually see that people who are just doing like really honest, interesting original work and are not like chasing all that just seem like genuinely more admirable. I've got a question for you. Someone's DMed me a question, which is that how do you see yourself in the sort of QAnon sphere? Is there a crossover? No, I don't think so. Is that is that even like a still inactive like subculture? I'm not sure, but I got this question and he'd like you to sort of answer it. I mean, I thought it was pretty fascinating. I thought it was fascinating. Like I thought it was pretty fascinating and powerful. And I do like I do kind of I'm attracted to the like mass. What I liked about QAnon was that it was, you know, whatever one might say about it, it was essentially like a knowledge project. It was a decentralized like knowledge puzzle machine. And that's what I think was kind of underrated about it. It was like a it was a group search process. It was a group intelligence process led by these drops that kind of guided the hive mind to go find things and then report back and synthesize it. And it was a pretty interesting and compelling example of what that can look like in a really wild decentralized way. So I did admire that about QAnon. And, you know, I'm kind of inspired by that element of it. Okay. Yeah, I just got a question.  And if that resonates with you at all, what is that experience like? How do you maneuver with it? Yeah, no, I don't know. I don't have the experience of someone monetizing their soul. That's not my experience. And if anything, you know, for me, it's more like over the past few years, like what I feel like the theme of tonight's discussion, like this tweet that's pinned at the top of it or whatever that I wrote today is like, in the past few years, I am, I do think like I am kind of currently going through a transition or a turning point where I do look back on my kind of experiments over the past few years. And I do realize that like I was a little too wrapped up in things and I was allowing my soul to be a little too much a function of, you know, the media and the internet game and the metrics and all of that. I did kind of like outsource a little bit too much of my soul. I was insufficiently grounded and attentive to the matters, to the true matters of the soul. I was inattentive to those things and I was obsessed with, you know, the internet game and the metrics and the business systems and stuff like that. Were you in particular very fixated on free speech in academia? Was that your sort of baby, if you want to call it that? Like as a theme or a topic? Yeah, yeah.  And you, the other life, what that really means is that you are trying to be a sort of intellectual or an academic minded person without the university, without, you know, institutional backing. So are you fixated with free speech in academia? Would you say yes or no? Well, it's a perfectly reasonable question. I think in my case, to be frank, I never actually had a problem with that because I think I was always very sensitive to that being like a very likely failure mode. And in fact, you know, when I first left academia and it was like in the news and stuff like that, it was like controversies and stuff, I had a very obvious opportunity to play that up. This is like the same time as like the Brett Weinstein stuff was kicking off. It was around the same time as me when Brett Weinstein first got famous. It was a very similar time, very close in time to when I was having my like dust-ups with academia. So there was a very clear playbook on the table that I could have opted into if I wanted to. And I chose, you know, very explicitly in my mind, and I don't want to do that. Like, I, you know, I could have made my cross-selep. Do you think, yeah, do you think the clamping down of free speech in academia exaggerated? Well, I think it just doesn't matter anymore now because all the intellectual talent is just going to exit and already is, and it's just going to continue, I think. So it's just a, it's a moot point now. So some good advice that I had for people who speak on podcasts and live streams is you should always think of five people when you speak publicly.  Are there certain people that you keep in mind when you're speaking publicly, Justin? Oh, that's an interesting question. I strongly disagree with what you just said. That's way too many people. Who can, who on earth can be accountable to all of those different individuals? If you, if you ran all of your public statements through that tribunal of six different people, not only would it take forever, but you would always find someone who could, among those six people who would veto anything you could say. I would say it's much simpler and more efficient and more radical to only, only review your thoughts from the perspective of one, one entity and that's God and that's kind of the genius of God in my opinion is, you know, if I type out a tweet or I type out an essay and it feels a little spicy or it feels a little, you know, some people might not like this or whatever. I just think to myself, you know, would God approve for it? Or another, another way to like phrase that though, and it's saying the same exact thing is just simply to ask yourself, is this really true? Do I really believe that this statement in this way to, in describing it this exact way, do I believe that this is really true? I think as long, that's all you have to ask yourself. And if you really ask yourself that and you answer it, you answer honestly, it's the same exact thing as holding yourself to what God would think and everything else, you know, follows from there. You don't have to think about all those different people in my view. And how do you balance the desire to tell the truth with your desire to have friends, to have community, to have a prosperous and pleasant life? I don't know. Luke, I think a lot of your questions kind of feel to me like you have this kind of mental model where, you know, like, if you're speaking the truth, it's going to be constantly making you a pariah among all these other people. But I think that's not necessarily true. I think if you have this kind of mental model, like this earlier today, actually, like I tweeted, like, you should never think of yourself as a dissident.  I'm not saying anything critical about you, Luke, but I'm saying in general, like, this is a bad mental phenomena that I think is very common and that I've tried very hard to avoid. And again, you know, I'm not perfect at many things. But this is maybe one thing I feel I have been is actually bad or or or or like, I'm so I'm so like out of touch, I'd like I've sailed so far from like the institutional center that I literally don't even know what is normal anymore. Like, I don't know what is good to think I don't know what's wrong thing and what's good thing I don't know what's allowed anymore. All I know is like, I just only say what what I think is real. And I don't know maybe I do you think Elon Musk is is has a coherent world view? Oh, I think it's coherent enough.  I admire that. But I don't know very philosophically sophisticated guy. I admire him, but he's evidently not very right. But how do you have a friend? Have you lost a friend from things you've said publicly and didn't that sting?  But surely you've had the experience of losing friends and surely that was very painful. Well, sometimes you have an experience where you think you're losing a friend, but the truth is you never lose a real friend. You only lose fake friends. And most people have a lot of fake friends. I mean, I've written about this also like, you know, an adult man really does not need more than like two or three real friends. You know, everyone today convinces themselves that they have like 10 friends, 20 friends, 30 friends, 40 friends. Most of those people in almost every case would drop you like a fly if it was even slightly inconvenient for them. And sure, I've had many situations in my life where people that I thought were friends like, you know, were, you know, clutching their pearls at something that I said and, you know, they kind of disavowed me or whatever. I've had that many times, but I take, I believe very genuinely that like those just were never friends. And maybe that's a little sad to learn that someone you thought was a friend never in fact was. But once you realize that then you didn't really lose anything. And I've always had a few friends. And I think, you know, as an adult man, like, if you have two or three really good friends, consider yourself lucky. And that's all you should need.  Who cares? But was your experience of losing friends as, as blithe and as painless as you just described? I mean, it sounds like- Oh, no, I've had many. Yeah, no, that's fair. I think your presentation, I mean, it's so painful to lose so painful. I agree. No, it is. No, I've had many very heartbreaking losses of friends. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I've had a few episodes where to this day, yeah, no, I think a little bit. I think about it sometimes and it's sad. And yeah, in some cases, I mean, it can drive some people to utter despair, you know. So I take that very seriously. I'm not being glib about that. But then again, you know, people have been burned at the stake for saying the truth, right? So losing a few friends in the real scheme of things, there are far worse things. And so I take your point. And it is, it can be heartbreaking for sure. But, you know, we got to keep things in perspective. Okay, how do you feel about Elon Musk's transhumanism? And how does that, how does that gel with your Christian faith? Well, I admire the man very much. And I generally think he's pretty cool, like, but I don't, I mean, he's not a philosopher. So you shouldn't judge him according to some like sophisticated. Okay, that was curious Gazelle there talking with independent thinker Justin Murphy. Great conversation. Didn't talk about David Brooks at all. I guess it turned into a decoding Justin Murphy episode. Bye bye.


Welcome to your weather forecast for the week beginning Wednesday August 19th 2020 I'm chief meteorologist John insworth for Longmont public media at the end of this Video forecast period. We have the first quarter moon coming around It'll be up in the sky in the evening great for going out with binoculars or just taking a walk It's gonna be very picturesque Rising just after noon sitting just before midnight Keeping an eye on the drought. Here's our homemade quasi animation of the drought conditions from June all the way to the present week So we stared out this period in June with no drought in northern countries And some pretty extreme drought down in the southern counties as we move forward into July And now into August and here we are at the present time We've seen some of the areas down in the southern counties actually get some water from from the storms Traveling along it's been more tropical moisture in the southern part of the state But drought conditions are all worse in the west and got a little worse in the northern counties how much Drought we have nationwide on this big outline area. Here's where we have long-term drought on the inside there and there and there That's where the water deficit is starting to affect soil moisture and aquifers Maybe even reservoir storage and like that other places the nation is sort of a short-term Vegetation and crop related water deficit So we're pretty much in that long-term drought settling in Just by year and a half go ahead no drought at all Looking at the rain for the last seven days right along I-25 bone dry Bone dry in the West we know that well out on the far eastern plains in Kansas and Spotty stuff in the southern counties as for the rain did occur, but yeah, we need more rain But I've got some good news. So hang on over the next 10 days the temperature Normal high temperatures drop a couple degrees normal light night time temperatures drop about a degree You can see in the ensemble down here that there are some days where the model Consistently things will be enough thunderstorms traveling around that we get hit. So there's there's some chances here They're not big and they're They're there but the other news is Very high temperatures the high highs are way above normal throughout the entire period and the lows are way above normal throughout this So we're definitely in a summer heat wave pattern So much so that we're setting records probably on Saturday Tuesday we hit 58 days at with 90 degree Fahrenheit or higher for a high temperature the record was 73 days back in 2012 not so long ago and If we do hit 90 plus, which we should every day a few Saturday, then we will be In second place for a hot summer. I was 61 days set in 2005 will be 61 Can we add another 11 days of 90 plus beyond that? It's not impossible It's unlikely climatology is going to be getting harder and harder as we get into September to hold on to the heat But it could happen All right, let's look at moisture. We definitely need some in the state. This is the Water vapor satellite image so greys and whites are Moist air and the reds and browns are dry sinking air When we could go we have Large amount of dry air in the west and up in the plains a little bit lingering around us But not much look at the change one week later the Western US and the Pacific has moistened up tremendously things in large part to to the Capital systems have been drifting by and dying over here so some moisture has made it around into the state and We have some thunderstorm activity this return in the middle of this week The Tuesday a.m. We had the high center right over here in Utah near Las Vegas giant ridge up here big trough from the east north winds Which are normally cool astound probably make it hard to get out of the 80s except this is such an unprecedented large high pressure system is just so much air piled up and sinking compressing that It's keeping us in the 90s, you know, hi 90s Looking at that abnormal heat. This is the surface temperature anomaly. So reds and pinks are Above normal blues are below normal. The white is normal. It's not much normal I go straight from heat to cool and we are Definitely the Quatches of this high pressure in the West with high temperatures above normal By Wednesday noon got a hurricane genadieve Drifting onto the frame here lots of moisture coming up and around the Rockies into, Colorado and Of the next 14 days we can watch this process go on it comes genadieve drifting up You can see the weekend we dry out a little bit, but then genadieve dies off of the California coast See all this moisture streaming in Into the West really good amount of moisture by the 27th 28 There's a big blob coming off for the 29th another tropical system down here Drifting off and dying a front pushing down the planes Bringing in more moisture here Let's take a look again the same loop look down this time into the southern Gulf of Mexico and you'll see another tropical system that's not named yet coming in and Hitting right around the Houston area. There's a cold front pushing down Let's see a dry air and watch this moisture as it goes west then into Mexico Western, Texas, New Mexico and joins that blob of medical brass. So that's September 1st 2nd, right there at the end So things will moisten up. That's good news. There's genadieve forecasted to head up the south the Baja coast and Fizzle out and die over the cooler waters after the weekend For Wednesday with this big high you can even see the shape of the air flow around the high There's enough heat enough moisture that we might get thunderstorms that have damaging gusty winds It's thunderstorms with gusty winds and lightning at this time if this the state is dry as it is It's just not good But they do have that marginal risk for Wednesday and again on Thursday for the entire Eastern half Eastern two-thirds of the state So hail as possible It's not as likely as just a lot of rain lightning The other big news item was smoke So from Tuesday p.m.  It was Wednesday morning. I think this continues to cycle around There's Wednesday late morning, and it's pretty thick. I don't know Plains again By Friday noon not much has changed There's the trough in the Midwest the ridge over the mountains north winds over us Genevieve was drifted a little bit further along So with that moisture, we do have some chance of showers The GFS is giving us 500s of an inch or so Some of the areas in the foothills won't call our springs and southern mountains Maybe get a little bit more. It seems to be seeing one bit thunderstorm right there By Sunday noon the high pressure system actually drifts up this should Coupled with a less moisture for a bit and the sinking motion in the high should take temperatures Healy close to 100 in the lower elevations shut off the thunderstorm activity almost entirely and Just bake us so it's a very hot dry smoky weekend with the smoke just going around in a circle There's Sunday noon even with north northeast winds and cool air out here You'd expect that to be able to come back to us, but the high is so strong It just is a big blob of heat coming around with the Dakotas in Nebraska Keeping us in its clutches still all right, so some chance of relief is Visible in the distance here's August 28th next Friday. I have a trough coming into the northern Rockies South West West winds This is a total shift so a smoker will change and a lot of it will get shunted away more quickly And with that we get a lot of cool air into the northern Rockies and Maybe a little bit of a temperature break next Friday We can go further out to Tuesday September 1st We see evidence of a cold front that actually comes down and takes us to below normal temperatures That might look like low 80s Gosh, even say upper 70s. Oh, I won't but it will feel good and There'll be some relief for the firefighters as well So hang in there a couple more weeks For the next seven days we see temperatures remaining in the 70s or the weekend upper to mid 70s Next week a little bit of a cool down and a bit of moisture coming back again For more local news take a look at Longmont leader calm I have frequent weather right dates on my column there So you can always fill in the gaps between these early week video releases This has been chief meteorologist John Elizabeth for Longmont public media. Keep looking up


Hi everyone, Joe for Jaspy's CaseBreaks.com coming at you with 2023 Topps Archive Signed Series Baseball, Active Player Edition, 20 boxes a full case, pick your team number six. Very big thank you to everyone here for making this break happen. On a Monday, pick your team six, Ed with that double last bottom mojo, Red Sox Astros picked up those teams before we pulled the remaining teams for that R&B, that random number block. And here are the results of the number block. So it's a serial number break just for those teams right there. And only for pick your team six, obviously. Side next to me over here is the fresh case of archives on all the boxes, 5, 10, 15, and 20. And it's just one encased autograph per box, pretty easy. Look for rare dual autograph cards. Hopefully same teams, randomizers. Grizzlies at Lakers, Lakers up 42.30 with 7.11 left in the first half. So there are ways to go here. All right, first one is, nice, 36 out of 40, Jose Barrios. So you've got the archive stamps. It's been a while since we've done some archives, right? There's Zodagraph, and it's 36 out of 40. Twins, Eric Leal got the twins straight up. That's what it seems like, James. Looks like Dillon Brooks should have kept his mouth shut. He wanted to poke the bear for the Mets. That's Andres Jimenez, Mets edition 43 out of 75. That'll go to Mets. Mets are a number block team. So we go by that digit right there, number three. So whoever has three will get three out of whatever, 13 out of whatever, 23, 33, 43, 53, et cetera, et cetera. And that's for Ken with Mets three. And we have, for the Blue Jays, Teosca Hernandez, 34 out of 58. So that'll go to Toronto for Eric Houston, Toronto form. Next up is Tristan Houses, 69 out of 74. Boston Red Sox, Ed P, Last Bot Mojo. 70% of time, Last Bot Mojo hits 100% of time. There's Yasmine Grandal, 12 out of 30. There's Zodagraph right there.  All right, five boxes down. Next box, Gilo St. Corbin Carroll looking pretty good. Dimebacks do have a lot of exciting players on that team. There's Joe Musgrove, Pirates edition, 11 out of 24. That's for Ed P and the Pirates. He grew up a San Diego Padres fan and then ended up, if I remember correctly, ended up throwing the first no-hitter in San Diego Padres history. We got Lars Knutbar, rookie auto, 46 out of 99 on his old rookie card. Cardinals, Sam with the Cardinals. Another box, we got some Bryson Stott, 39 out of 99. No, check that, 33 out of 99. That'll be for the Phillies. Phillies are a number block team. Phillies three is Ken. Next up is Matt Olson, A's edition of Matt Olson. 14 out of 44. A's picked up straight up by Howard. There you go, Howard. I think we got some Ginter here. We got Max Muncie, 11 out of 11. Dodgers, Dodgers, a number block team that goes to Dodgers 1. Jeremy Port, start off slow, been heating up lately. And I think on paternity leave, he might have a kid soon. He's expecting soon. I think he might have gotten Player of the Week honors. Soon to be Las Vegas, A's. Matt Chapman was still in his Oakland A's uniform, though. We've got JT Real Muto. That's a one of one. Phillies, Phillies are a number block team. Phillies won. Jeremy Port, all aboard the Big Hit Express. Woo-hoo, nice. Next box is a redemption. And that's gonna be, let's use this blank card here to hide this redemption. Obviously, if it's a number block team, that'll go to Ryan and the number zero. So it's either gonna be Ryan or someone else on the picker team list. Congratulations, you are due to receive an autographed signer. No parallel of. We've got E, D, Ed, Eddie, Edward, Eddie Rosario. I was expecting to see a city here, but let's see where they have him on the checklist. Let's go to cardboardconnection.com. 2023 archives, signature series, checklist. Let's go to set checklist, just cause they often put them on. And a checklist is just names. All right, we'll go by our no checklist rules, which is the team that he is currently on. If they're active and team they play for the longest, if they're retired, these are all active players. And he is currently with the Atlanta Braves. And that will be for Rob and the ATL. All right, next box. I wonder if has group break checklist and sometimes they'll put team assignments on there. No, that's just names as well. All right, so yeah, we'll go by those rules, just like our collegiate rules. Next up is Josh Lowe. 10 out of 17 for the raise, raise zero is gonna be Ryan, Ryan Emerson. Then we got Alec Manoa, one out of 65. Blue Jays one, Jeremy Port, Toronto one. Joe Pizzle, what's going on? Yeah, not looking good for the Milwaukee Bucks, they are down. They only have one game to the Miami Heats three and history is against them unfortunately. Unfortunately for Bucks fans. Miami Heat fans are happy. We got Matthew Libertura, 83 out of 92. At Tampa Bay three, that's for Ken, number three. Yeah, these are all buyback cards. So they buy these back, stamp them, have the players sign them. I guess Eddie Rosario just didn't turn in his stack of cards. There's Jeff McNeil, 65 out of 87. Metz, all right, number block team, New York Metz five. That's for Scott, Scott E, Scotty. There's still a lot of game left in this one, Joe Pizzle. So far, so good for the Lakers. Still got a whole other half to go. They stopped to finish this half strong. They got Brandon Crawford. That's a one of one Brandon Crawford. And that's a giant. Jeremy Port, a one of one. All aboard the Big Hit Express, whoop whoop. All right, three more to go. Next one, next, our time's break, folks, is down to single digits, nine teams left. After this break, I'm gonna put them in a, I'm gonna put those teams in a filler. So if you were eyeing a team, get your teams now. Jaspy's casebricks.com, Adolas Garcia, 47 out of 67. Rangers, James, James L picking up the Rangers straight up. Two to go. Yeah, if Metz, so I mean, I don't wanna get ahead of myself, especially as a Lakers fan, but if the Grizzlies end up losing this series, I mean, what's the fallout gonna be for Dylan Brooks? I mean, it's from the fans anyway. There is Tim Anderson, 40 out of 74. I'm a man, I'm 40. Ed P with the White Sox. All right, 20th hit is gonna be for the Royals. It's Whit Maryfield, 34 out of 38. Kansas City is a number block team. Kansas City four is gonna be four. Eric Houston, there you go, Eric. There you go, everybody. Thanks for watching. Thanks for rigging with us. I'm Joe for Jaspy's casebricks.com. I'll see you next time for the next archives break. Bye-bye.


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Your Coca-Cola bottler presents Claudia Claudia based on the original stories by Rose Franken brought to you transcribed Monday through Friday By your friendly neighbor who bottles Coca-Cola Relax and while you're listening refresh yourself Have a coke and now Claudia You mean the flood waters have receded You wouldn't know anything the only real casualty is mama's double boiler chalk up one double boiler we owe to mama Half of it's all right. I mean there's only a hole in one pot It ought a single boil pretty well that sounds on the complicated side David yes, darling Really is nice to be an architect. What do you mean nice? I mean it is fun and architect must have a good time being an architect. Come on in darling. I can't hear you Nicked myself with this confounded razor. I forgot to bring a new blade with me when we came over to mother's last night You nick yourself badly. I'll live Sure an architect has a good time with his ouch. Now what's happened? I just nicked myself again with this confounded razor. Oh, yes. I'm not used to talking while I shave Why talk then? It wasn't until you started. No, but you were singing. That's different I Don't know what I'm so happy about it contagious. You caught it from me. I just uncaught it I just remembered that we have to have dinner with your Aunt Louisa tonight Well, we have to eat some where it might as well be that Louisa's on the theory that if you're going to be shot You might as well be hung we wouldn't be settled enough to eat at home anyway. We can leave early Mm-hmm Certainly takes more time for two people to get up in the morning than for one naturally it takes twice as long David stop if you kiss me it'll take twice as long again.  Well, that's a nice way for a man to smell I love the way men smell of shaving soap. Have you had a lot of experience? Oh dear and I tried so hard to keep my past David I never dreamed an architect did more than just draw pictures on paper You never dreamed an architect doesn't do what doesn't do more than just draw pretty pictures on pieces of colored paper. Oh Where's my tie? Oh here it is That's only the beginning He supervises the construction Schedules the work gets the mason finished before the carbon to start and the carbon is out before the plumbers and the plumbers out Before the electricians the electricians out before the painters and architects work is never done in that case a woman should be very useful to an architect very useful to this architect and Dispensable in fact I Don't know how this particular architect ever got along without you. Oh, David will never get to breakfast All right Come along if you'd rather eat. I wouldn't rather Oh Darling, I can't believe we'll be in our own apartment tonight. It'll be like a honeymoon. I Wish I could be sure the painters will be finished. They will I told them we couldn't wait and they promised they'd be out I don't trust painters promises my woman's charm Are you sure we'll have something to sleep on the store promise too? I ordered the beds to be delivered the staff and and and the kitchen stuff's coming Maybe I have been missing out and not having a woman partner Well, you've got one now Here you are there was a lot of furniture and boxes delivered for us Yes, I put everything in the bedroom everything in that little room. This is going to be awfully crowded Oh, I move it out again when the painter is finished when the painter finish He promised to be all through today He will be a five o'clock sharpie will be finished the floors and out so you've got to hurry Mrs. Certainly will hurry Mr. Norton will be here any minute. I give you your keys and I will be downstairs if you want me Thank you, but I don't think I need you till tomorrow for it. You just call me. I will Look out Mrs. Oh, you're the painter. What are you doing here painting? Hello, Mrs But you promise faithfully you'd be finished with the painting this afternoon. Won't you be sure? I'll be out just a little more to go careful where you walk over there I left the path for you in the bedroom. Thank you. It never fails. What the path into the bedroom? No, lady tenants wanting things in the hurry. They just don't seem to want to let paint dry Oh, I'm sorry. I've been a nuisance to you, but I was so anxious to always people are anxious to get in and then Come the moving men and they don't care a thing for paint. Just slam bang their way around Well, that's too bad. Nobody cares about a painter paper hangers is the worst of all paper and pastes All over the place Competition I guess that's what it is. Yes, I guess that's what it is But we're lucky. We aren't having any paper at least all paint. Yeah, but you'll be having moving there Look out lady for the wet floor going to the bedroom. Oh, that's what they all say Someone else coming. Hey mister, not so fast wet paint. You can't come in Now he'll watch out. How am I gonna get this floor painted if people are gonna be Trumping across it. I promise I won't trump. You see I live here. Oh, that's Depp and the lady of the house She's in the back Did you hear what he called me isn't it wonderful what the painter he called me the lady of the house I don't know when anything has made me feel as Now he does Oh Look David what son's gone. Well, maybe it has a date with some other apartment down the street We better hurry now and get dressed for Aunt Louisa's dinner. Did you say dress? Oh, didn't I tell you? I was so busy. I just she called this morning and now especially and I I told her we would that was nice of you You promised your Aunt Louisa and I'm the one that has to crawl into a boiled shirt Why do we have to dress up? Well, that's what I didn't tell you. Well, tell me now Well, Aunt Louisa thought it would be a good idea for us to meet her friends the van Merrill. Why? Because they are going to do over their house and she thought it would be nice for them to meet an architect in a boiled shirt You know what I think nope. I think Aunt Louisa is a colossal pain in the neck, but you'll go There's no possible way of getting out of it. I'm afraid not Well, anyway, mom will be there David, so it won't be so terribly bad for you now Let's see if our friend the painter is finished The coast is clear. Come on good. I'm all ready. Hold on a minute. What's wrong? Your painter with the persecution complex has painted himself out the front door and he's painted us in David he couldn't have he promised he'd be finished and we could move in this afternoon stop and think Did he actually promise that we could move in this afternoon? Well, did he or didn't he? Well, maybe not exactly, but that's what he implied He said he'd be finished this afternoon And any sensible person would think that with the painters gone any sensible person would know that paint takes a number of hours to Drive, that's very inconsiderate of it Anyway, couldn't we tiptoe across on the theory that tiptoes don't count? Yeah, yes, we could We'd leave our pretty little tiptoes permanently recorded on our living room floor. Oh But couldn't they paint it over tomorrow? They could When you would undoubtedly get yourself painted in again Only next time might not be my luck to be painted in with you We've got to get out what paint would say we're not going to get out You seem to be enjoying this I have an idea you planned it all me I I had Absolutely nothing to do with David. This isn't any joke. What about Aunt Louisa's dinner party? Yeah, I was thinking of that What were you thinking? I was thinking how nice it was we couldn't go It's so terrible about being cooped up with me The best laid schemes of mice and men Often work out in the most wonderful way David the van Merrill's and the cousins and the dinner was really being given for us Darling, I've ruined everything and I wanted to be such a whole you're a magnificent help You couldn't have done better even if you'd known what you were doing To be really honest. I don't want to go either only I only what? Only there's a cloud to every silver lining If we miss out Louisa's dinner party, we want everything to eat with stars We'll get food now. You say wait a minute free amount of a window like that the neighbors.  That's better than ruining the pain. I'm not sure I am Darling, I feel like an awful fool Did I say you weren't it is such a silly thing to have done people do lots sillier things They fall out of love get divorced mr. Norton.  In fact, we can manage beautifully with your help. What could I do? Well, if you get a long broom for an example you could reach some food across to us without touching the floor Yeah, that would be good. There's the food. Well, if you could run down to the delicatessen for an example You could get some for roast beef salad. No, no, no two cheese and two roast beef Then we can split all right with mustard and some pickles and I Yes, I know Aunt Louisa I'll fix that too. Can you reach the telephone there in the for your friends? Yes I can reach it Plaza 5407 seven. I am dialing it Plaza 5407 So I dialed it and now what do I do you ask for Mrs. Brown tell her you have a message from mr. Norton mom will be there by now David. You're not an architect.  Oh, hello, Mrs. Brown, please who? Oh, who am I? I'm Fritz Yeah, I hold on Somebody speaking Irish. That's what I do want to speak to Mrs. Brown about What oh it is mrs. Norton's mother now. Oh, just a minute, please. No, no, this is Fritz I have a message to give you from mr. Norton A message from mr. Norton. I think something terrible has happened. No, there hasn't been an accident He is with mrs. Norton in the bedroom and he can't come to the phone No, the painter painted him in Yeah painted him in with a brush like like painting Fritz you're a genius tell her we can't come to dinner He says we can't come to dinner. I mean they can't come to dinner. Yeah, thank you. Yeah, goodbye Oh, she was very excited then she was laughing She said she doesn't doubt you bribed the painter to do this mom is off the understanding But at louisa just lives to organize other people's lives. Well, there's one thing at louisa can't organize and that's wet paint This broadcast of claudio was supervised and directed by william brown meloni Let's see what's needed to make thursday's holiday complete How about your supply of coca-cola? You'll want plenty of ice on that day of all days You can have dad pick up a case at the food store or service station when he's driving by He's always glad to oblige when it's coke you ask him to bring home And the children are happy to see that case of refreshment and hospitality Every day monday through friday claudio comes to you transcribed with the best wishes of your friendly neighbor who bottles coca-cola So listen again tomorrow at the same time And now this is joking saying or if war and remember Whoever you are whatever you do Wherever you may be When you think of refreshment think of coca-cola Or ice cold coca-cola makes any pause the pause that refreshes