This is our pre-fishing video for our tournament tomorrow morning because I want to check out the tournament video I'm actually going to be posting it tomorrow at 7 p.m. Eastern time. So stay tuned It's going to be a good one back-to-back uploads. Hope you guys enjoy this video What's poppin people? Welcome back to another video today. We're on the Savannah River We're going to be doing some fishing today more importantly some pre-fishing because we got a tournament tomorrow that I believe we're going to fish depending on how the fishing is today So we're about to put in the ramp got the old beautiful boat right here We're actually pulling Bradley's truck today because I had to drop off my truck to get some new tires long story short I'll talk to you guys about that in another video But I ran over a big piece of metal that was about the size of a bowling ball And it knocked almost a big hole almost blew out my tire, but got my boy Bradley right here. What you what you saying? What is that? Wow Let's check them out. You think it's on me the juice? I think so that is oh, that's already the juice So we already know about that one But if you guys are new to the channel, please hit that subscribe button hit the notification bell and also hit the like button If you guys have been enjoying the content We're gonna go ahead and back this boat in make happen today if you guys are wondering too I'm filming on my iphone right now. I actually uh, my camera died right when I pulled it out I was like, oh, that's great We're gonna try to catch the fish today cover a lot of water.  Let's get it started You're gonna leave Bradley We'll bump it here we go boys We're launching in one of my favorite things about the old rep guard on the bottom of the boat Just pull up on the ramp. That's all you gotta do. There's nothing here to they got that but there ain't no dock There's a ton of current You ready Bradley? Oh, hold up. We got the poles now You good Come on muscle man You good good. Are you ready? Be fresh and ready today Bradley. I mean don't wreck the boat, but yeah, I'm ready homie Me wrecking the boat out here I know it's a little if you want to go back a couple episodes last time you locked your truck Hey, if you go back a couple episodes, you see how I wrecked my boat That was about a year ago, right? Yeah, I've been a minute. That was a long When Bradley if you guys want to see that episode it's uh I crashed my boat in the trees or Bradley crashes, but he crashed his boat in the trees That's not even true, but like I mean not a contest No I mean not not at a hundred miles now or anything, but it definitely happened All right, let's get it started man. You ready? Let's go. Let's get it So I haven't tournament fish in a while and I haven't posted many videos about tournament fishing But this video is a practice day and we have never gone up river this far before We ran about an hour in our boat all the way up and we were stopping on some spots that we found on the way there So pretty much riding up the river We were marking spots that looked pretty good on the main river some current breaks and little eddy holes Some wing dam some little spots that were tucked away out of the current So we were just pretty much covering water at this point seeing if there was some fish on some of these spots In note, this is one thing when we're practicing for tournaments We're not trying to catch a ton of fish if we catch one we're going to leave We're not going to go fish a ton of areas that we already know that there's fish at We're just trying to find new spots cover new water and try to find some productive holes that hold a lot of fish For the next day in the tournament So just note that before going into this video that we're trying to find new spots And we're not trying to catch a ton of fish So I'm going to walk you through our whole practice process and what is all on our mind Yeah, of course man. How you doing?  Thank you so much, man. If you ever need anything when you're out here. Just let me know Yeah Coach What do you you honestly almost put my hand bro That would be you know, I literally sitting in the same position being greasy Being greasy Anybody if you get five three pounders That's 15 pounds Makes a lot. Oh, there it is. Oh, he spit it out. It makes a lot of sense.  Was it like mine? Just one hammer. No, wait. I think that was a big one He's pulled it under He was just like holding on to it perfect No, uh, oh my god. I was messing around with you, bro. Are you on a tree? No, I He's still on there. Oh my god. Keep pressure Keep pressure. He's on there.  Come on. He's on there. Is he big? I don't know, bro. He took the 10 at one. I feel his head Yeah, you have the big one, right? Yeah His head was shaking, bro.  Come behind. See if you can pull him out. Is he still on? I think so. I feel it. Something's shaking. Yeah, pull on this one You're not on Oh That's embarrassing. Bro, at least 10 bucks Hold on. Hold on. Hold on Is he even better? Nice. Nice. Nice. I felt his head shaking.  No way, how big is that fish? I lost him That was was that a bass? Yes. They're probably if that was a bass, it was a nine pounder. No way I didn't even know I had one I'm gonna tell you right now if that was a bass, that was a nine pounder. I think it was a mudfish It looked kind of like a mud if that was a bass. I'm telling you that was a nine pounder You see how big the side of his body was just wide He didn't look that way He kind of didn't take me back, huh? Oh, you hung up?  He took the hook. That was a mud. No way He took the hook. He broke it? No.   He was right there by that bait Bro, can you get that out? Dude, he had you. Bro, I didn't even have time to see it Bro, you you've had this on for five minutes. You realize that right? Yeah Look at how he choked it. Oh my god. Never seen one eat that I don't know if I'm gonna get this thing out Bro, he's it's in his throat. How long was he eating that thing? Bro, it's like in his goal. Hold on. I got it Look, it was in his back right there. That's how far he just ate that you had that tied on for five minutes About a pound and a half I think the ones that um He like just hammered it right there. See all the little baits? Where? What is it? What else would you tie up? Is that a fish trap? You want to grab it? It sure looks like something. Bro, that's heavy. Bro, wouldn't it be heavy with 20 pounds of fish in it? What is it? I think it's a fish trap. I don't even really grab it. Oh, that as heavy as could be It might not be a fish trap All right, I'm gonna lift this up. You just grab that right here Reach your hand down there. There's no chance What is it? Unless they just did that just in case it's like us roll up. What is this? That was weird son.   He's a thick fish. All right guys That's my first fish today. We caught two and they were both on a chatterbait That swim jig might get them in here good because of this clear water We've never been up this far guys.  This is where they catch the big ones This is a good fish. That kind of makes me mad. I wish you went a bit I mean at least we know All right, so this is what I want to do. I don't know if it's worth fishing this because They're gonna bite.  It's cool over here Water temp water temp is two degrees colder in here. Oh, yeah I'm gonna tell you right now. They're going to eat in here. Look at how many gar That is one thing I realized about upriver. I've never seen so many gar in my life I mean golly Should we try this side just to know I want don't fish that side per side of that Yeah No way, bro. I gotta stop There's no way we doubled up Okay, bro, okay Why can't we just fun fish today? That's a good one, dude Yo, that's a two and a half pounder. What? All right, bro Be careful. Be careful. You're good. Bro. That is the stubbiest fish. That's a two pounder two number All right. All right. We got a two cast. We just said let's try this side not the cypress side I just caught me about a pounder. There was something on facebook about that about these They're saying don't swim in the river up here about 301 because the fish have something on them and look They do That's a good two number Okay, let's just go right to the back no more cast Oh Huh, isn't that the hardest thing I do this every time bro. I'll let go practice I ain't I ain't throwing it. I ain't throwing it All right guys, we're going back in this little creek I just want to come to the back and kind of see what it looks like. I don't know if we'll cast around back here But I uh, we got in here. I put on that chatter bait You know bradley had that one that choked it earlier I skipped that thing all the way up under this tree had that three pounder eat it We turned around I said all right, we're not gonna cast and then I looked at the right hand side It's the left hand side of the bank cypress trees right hand sides willow willow trees And I was like, you know what? I kind of want to check the willow trees See if there'd be fish on that as well And we we threw I think it was our second cast and we doubled up They're here. I don't I don't really want to cast anymore, but look at what's in front of us Can you guys I mean look at this you can't say this is not some of the sexiest looking water You've seen your home I eat twinkie Tell me this is not some of the sexiest water you've seen something about fishing cypress trees I'm not back here with the top water in the morning Up shallow We come straight here. I ain't going anywhere Like we might catch the bag that we need right away bro. We just hit this all day Yeah, I mean I go back and forth ever punish All I know is out out of like 10 cast caught three fish Three good fish all keepers. I can see that thing. Look how clear that's that's the visibility of this This is a lot of you guys are going to say this isn't clear I would even say it's not clear know them the type of water But he says I mean for the river is clear This is clean very clean I mean do you even want to go back there is he even worth it back in the back here or should we just We know Guys we're going to try one more thing. I ain't going to hook them But we have this big worm, which I don't throw too many big worms on the river Me and brally found that out the other day But I'm actually going to throw on a few of these cypress trees just to see if there's fish positioned on it I'm not going to hook them. I just want to see if they'll eat this worm That's another thing if we can come in here in the morning with moving baits and some top water maybe And sack up some fish and then follow back up with the worm. See what I'm saying, brally? This fish that we didn't catch I'm not going to hook said if one has it. I'm going to try to get it out of his mouth I just want to know if they'll eat it Because this will save us a lot of time today. You know what I mean? If I throw this in here right now and one eats it.  I had dead weight, but I think it was a fish You want to go in here? No You hear? Yeah Juicy looking That was nasty God, that took the rod out of my hand. Did you see the boil that bass was? Did you just see that bass? That was a seven pound.  Did you see it? Yes It about took the No, I don't know if that's a bass. I don't think that one was a bass. That was a bass No, that first one or I mean the first one. I think was a bass. That's second one. I don't know Did you see that? Was that like a seven? Was it actually you saw it? I saw it. I wasn't paying attention And I just got hit the next cast All right, let's catch one and then I don't know if that second one was a bass. I just Bradley he almost both of those almost took the rod out of my hand. I'm being serious Like I'm I ain't talking about just hitting it. I'm talking taking it out of my hand No, it was like come on dude. So that was like a seven eight pounder. He felt like it. Oh They're in here.  He might eat you That was a hundred percent of fish. There's a lot of logs on there. No, it was a hundred percent of fish Like I actually felt them pull like that like there's if there's any bite today. That was a fish. That was it Oh my god, I can get up in there.  All right, we know the pattern. Let's go ahead and put him back in the water He's already been hooked. Oh my god. My hands just went right through That's three in a four. There we go guys. That's the biggest fish today I skipped that chatter bait all the way up under that tree. I was talking to Bradley I want to focus on areas around where we've been finding fish and now we just pulled off to our second main river spot Biggest fish today. That's a three number right there. If we catch five of those, we're going to be looking good He hammered that thing. I had a bite right before him right there. So now knowing that we're pre-fishing We're finding spots. We're not going to continue the fish to this. We don't want to do that Last thing you want to do is catch all your fish So what we're going to do is put a wave point on this spot And we're going to keep it in our head to come back here. That's a beautiful fish right there We're going to get him back in the water Guys, we're on the good ones. This is we got the wind and pattern I promise you that if we can just keep it up and keep finding spots where holds fish like that All right, we are at the house now Getting a bunch of rods rigged up for today or for tomorrow. We are back at the house now We're getting everything rigged up for the tournament tomorrow. We're excited about it We're exhausted. It was a long freaking day big grind 100 degree weather and it was fun though. We we found a bunch of fish and to be quite honest with you I think we have the the wind and fish. We just got to go there tomorrow I'm 100% I just this is actually the biggest tournament on the savannah river this year I'm excited about a bunch of people are going to be coming out and um I'm curious to see how people end up doing see if people actually found some of the fish that we did That's the only big thing that we're talking about like there can be a couple other people That found those same fish, but I really don't think that's going to affect us tomorrow How the river is, you know tidal water fisheries current fisheries It's going to replenish throughout the day. I don't think it's going to be a big problem But you know, we're just double checking everything. We respooled about how many reels about five I think five or six reels we respooled on put brand new line on them getting everything ready I'm just excited about it. I think we're going to go out there tomorrow and win it I really do and I'm got that confidence for that and we found the fish got that big bass energy And we uh, I think we're going to make it happen. So what do you think about today, Bradley? We had a great day today. I mean we covered 60 70 miles of stretch. It's going to be a very timing aspect to tomorrows I really don't think it's going to be though like not I don't think it's going to be as it's taught like like before we went out there. I thought timing was going to be more important personally Yeah, but I mean we caught him in the heat of the day when we thought we were going to catch him in the morning You know what I mean? It's also true. Tell the people what you're doing right now and what you're testing out Testing out the old Bangalore On a flimsy rod We were rigging them at the back of my house right here and it's really cool because I got you know This beautiful pond in my backyard. If you guys want to see some more videos out here Like let me know down below because we'll definitely come out and film some more But um, it's pretty cool because we're just like rigging them up and be like, all right Let's go. Uh, let's go set up the reels get everything ready and it's been pretty cool He's getting his old top water reel set up Um rod and reel figuring out everything with that and um excited for tomorrow So you guys know how we're catching them on chatter base today.  At least 10 at least 10. Let me see what we got in here. Um I can actually open it black and red. I got black and red Yeah black and blue Bigly shoe Black and blue red and black Um, it's kind of smelly in there Black and blue black and blue and then I think we rigged up three, right? Yeah, and then we got these like little swim baits There wasn't many swim baits in there. Um, these are like basic little kytex four inches I wish they were bigger, but I will say these are like perfect for the back of that chatter bait Um, we didn't rig them up like the ones that we rigged up Um, I got a poppin pickle right here on um my crush Got the new crush reel with my chatter bait. That's what I was using today I'm got a texas rig on a mok 2 I got a pro ti on a mok 2 rod with a backup chatter bait I'm telling you bro. We're going all out man. The chatter baits gotta pull out today Um, we got a swim jig on this rod And then this rod got another chatter bait Um, texas rig crank bait that's i'ma let brally run that and then bang a lure Um for in the morning. He's gonna toss that bad boy. And then this reel right here I'm gonna put a another curve 55 similar to this one except what is it muddy water curl Muddy water curl is going on that rod. So you guys better stay tuned for the next episode It's gonna be a good one guys.  We have positive attitude about it We found a bunch of fish today and um, I think we're gonna go out there and put a herd on them As long as the fish are there as long as we make it there. All right, and Everything pans out, but thank you guys so much for the support I love you guys so much hit that freaking like button, especially if you want to see some more tournament content I'll catch you guys in the next video


I'm right. I guess I could have told it in a different order. That might have been more of a window into a lonely. I've always approached playlists as like radio playlists. Like these are the songs I would want on my personal radius, perfect radio station. Oh, yeah. Oh, I mean, I think that's that's the yeah, that's definitely the problem. But the problem is what I also I also want to do heavy rotation. And like you can kind of fake it up by adding the multiple times to iTunes playlists. But then that doesn't work on some other platforms. I'm not using iTunes anymore to manage my playlists. So I wish there was like a standard playlist that's like, yeah, play the play this group more often than this other group. Well, I'll tell you what Apple Music's playlist recommendation sure finds every possible way to shove Kanye West songs in my face. And I'm loving it.  Like that was that was actual magic. The first person that I that a friend of mine that had that. And I'm like, how do you have 300 songs on this one normal CD?  And there are no titles, right? You just had numbers. It's so you had to kind of remember where the song was at. Oh, yeah, good times. Yeah, we still have a bunch of CDs that we had we had in our car back in the early 2000s. I still have CDs in my car. I have a CD player. They're named like Eileen jams and road trip. I was always that's another reason why I didn't do more playlists. I was very daunting about naming them or having reasons for them. Yeah. For whatever reason, like they were their own little living things and I didn't want to take responsibility for them. They were concept albums to you. They were.  Also, why is it called Justin jams? Come on. I know, man. This has been a very revealing look into my life. Likewise. All right. I'm high. All right. Hide it up. Let's rock this party. You ready? Yeah. Here we go. Daily Tech News Show is powered by its audience, not outside organizations. To find out more, head to dailytechnewsshow.com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, August 25th, 2016. I'm Tom Merritt alongside Justin Robert Young, ready to take the tech news, hold it up to close examination like a vision and a palantir. Indeed. That's exactly. Oh, I would have been really awkward if I would have led with that because that was what I was going to say like a palantir. Good to join you yet again, Tom. Absolutely, my friend. We're going to talk definitely about WhatsApp changing its privacy policy and sending some data to Facebook. We're definitely going to talk about the Mark German leak that Apple is working on their own Snapchat-like app. Those two actually work together in a strange way. The U.S. Federal Trade Commission just approved Tesla's offer to buy SolarCity for $2.6 billion in stock. That merger is not done yet. They still need approval from the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. And here are some other top stories.  Starting Thursday, Newtonomy will be the first company in the world to offer public autonomous vehicle taxi service. And they'll do it in Singapore. Customers can summon a ride from the company's app for free within a 2.5 square kilometer business district called One North. If you're familiar with Singapore, that might mean something to you. Newtonomy engineers will be in the driver's seat to ensure passenger comfort and safety. So they'll be taking test runs essentially and let passengers ride along. Exactly what Uber described they want to do in Pittsburgh. Company plans to offer a fully autonomous fleet by 2018. This Newtonomy company spun out of MIT Research Lab, by the way. So it's got some pretty heavy-duty researchers behind it as well. So is the big headline here these are coming and they're coming faster than we think? Yeah, I think so. I mean, this one goes into my year in tech history, my chronology of tech history. First company starting today. I think that's another thing that gets lost on people because we've been cried wolf to so many times. This is happening. You can go do this in Singapore today. You can get a ride in a self-driving taxi. Now granted, there's a guy behind the wheel and it's a test thing and it's a limited area. All of those copyouts apply. But this is the first company to do this for the public. Down to Singapore also for those of you who are not familiar with the fantastic city-state of the South Pacific is not all that large in terms of population. It's obviously very, very busy, but it clears out a little bit as the day goes on based on whatever I was able to find online. It's really only a population of about 3,000. Unlike what Uber is going to be doing in Pittsburgh, which is a little bit more populous and provides a lot more challenges, especially when it comes to the bridges and whatnot. But still, what this shows to me is that this idea of an autonomous taxi ride is A, the most beneficial application of autonomous driving, which I think is very important, and B, as far as we've been able to see as passive observers that aren't on the inside of these companies, the way that we think, the farthest that we've seen autonomous driving go are kind of on back roads in Palo Alto where Google's running their stuff, and obviously there's been stuff running in Pittsburgh. This is money where your mouth is, liability on the line, a real-world testing both in Singapore and as Uber is looking to do there in Pittsburgh. And that, man, that's extremely exciting. It says to me that this field is ready to burst. Singapore puts a lot of money and emphasis behind appearing to be a tech-forward place. And when I say appearing, I'm saying that that's what they want to cultivate. I'm not saying they aren't. They are a tech-forward place in many respects. So it's not a huge shock to me that this would crop up in Singapore. I think what I'm still skeptical about is, okay, they didn't come out and say, this is level four, level five, SAE autonomy. They didn't say, and we'll have a driver in there. They said, we'll have an engineer in there. So it still strikes me, as I said before, when Uber talked about wanting to do this, it still strikes me as a little bit more light than heat in that what they're saying is, we want to get some people inside the cars that we're already testing, but this is different than them saying, we're ready to launch a service. They're still saying their fleet won't launch till 2018. It's faster than I would expect, but we're not quite to the, like this is a service now that can be replicated anywhere in the world. Well, here's something to think about. If they are letting anybody do this, then there is a high likelihood that they are currently doing it internally. If they have the regulation in line to be able to make money, or I mean, in Uber's case, they're offering the rides for free, but to put strangers in these cars, I think it would be irresponsible if they were not already running these kinds of cars for their employees and such. So what is interesting to me is on what level they are doing it, and whether or not this is just kind of a, like you said, a press release, a science fair project where it's like, yeah, well, we ran one and it ran kind of okay, and then we're going to shut it down for two weeks, and then maybe we'll run another one again, but technically we started, which I think would be less exciting, but still the fact that this is running at a level internally for them, and we're presuming that they're running it internally, that they're willing to do it for strangers is huge, because again, their reputation is on the line. If one of these things, God forbid, has any kind of accident, let alone one that injures the passenger, then not only is that company really in trouble, but the entire vertical stands to be damaged. Yeah, and going back to your point about it being free, the fact that Neutonomy and Uber both are saying they're going to offer these for free, and I feel bad for Neutonomy who's like, hey, man, we're doing it first. Uber said they're going to do it, we're doing it. I can't emphasize that enough. This is a company that isn't got as big of a press machine as Uber, so they deserve a little more attention because they're actually doing it, but they're both talking about doing it for free, which tells me a lot, because then if something does go wrong, you're not like, hey, I want my money back, I paid for this. There's a whole different set of expectations come around when you start paying for it. I think that will be the big marker. The next big marker is when do we see a service like this that's up and running for the public that charges you? That's willing to say, yeah, we're going to make you pay money for it. Well, but even then, the big, big, big marker is when are you getting into the headless horseman? Right, like, you know, like, when are you? Well, yeah, that's down, that's the we've arrived marker. You're absolutely right. Yeah, that's the big moment. On August 10th and 11th, activist Ahmed Manzor received suspicious text messages and forwarded them to researchers at Citizen Lab in the University of Toronto. Working with Lookout, Citizen's Lab determined that the messages contained links to malware exploiting three previously unknown flaws in iOS, collectively being called Trident. The malware was traced back to Israeli tech company, NSO. Two companies alerted Apple, which issued a security update Thursday, iOS 9.3.5, fixing the flaws. The researchers believe, now here's where the news comes in, that the malware has been in use for years and NSO says it sells its tools only to governments. And NSO group spokesman told the Washington Post, it had no knowledge of the incidents. Now, it is not outside the realm of possibility that a government is after activist Ahmed Manzor. That would certainly not be a shock, probably not even a shock to Mr. Manzor. Washington Post talked about a similar situation with a Mexican journalist, where there was a similar activity and it looks like it was the same malware, also possibly a government operative. So there's a couple ways you can go with this. We've definitely heard of these companies like NSO selling malware to governments and then having that malware leak out somewhere else and people discovering it. What's controversial about that is that they don't reveal these vulnerabilities to companies like Apple. And so their malware can be intercepted by bad guys, their malware can be misused by governments, and their malware could be taking advantage of vulnerabilities that other attackers independently discover. And the manufacturer still wouldn't fix. And so it's putting people at danger. That is controversial. The other side of it is, hey, when Apple said we're not going to cooperate with the FBI on unlocking an iPhone, a lot of people said, well, but then how else are you going to get into it? And it looks like NSO is another one of these companies out there that will in fact sell you tools to crack into things.  What is NSO land? Yeah. Yeah. For me personally, I don't like this. I understand that governments do need to have secrecy and maintain an advantage in fighting the hackers who also are not going to tell the manufacturer about a vulnerability. But there doesn't seem to be a good set of protocols for protecting the public from these kind of vulnerabilities. I would like to see a framework set up where voluntary disclosure and cooperation happened. And there was a lot of talk about that in the wake of the FBI Apple case to say, hey, we understand you want to have an advantage, but there should be a responsible disclosure. President of the United States has said that he would like to encourage that, but it's far from becoming the practice. I think there needs to be a way to say, we want intelligence agencies under proper supervision to be able to have these advantages, but we also don't want them to be out there for years in ways that malicious actors can take advantage of. The only reason why people would be cool with this company doing what they do is because they sell to governments, right? Yeah. If they were selling to the private. That's a lot of things. People often question that. They're like, well, they say they only sell to governments, but how do we know? And we can understand that governments are not airtight, infinite lock boxes, right? And one man's beneficial government is another man's tyrannical government, right? Yeah. What seems interesting to me with this is that for me, I'm with you. This seems on its face to be like, I don't like what these guys are doing. But then at the same time, when the whole Apple FBI thing was going on, we were saying, well, hey, listen, Apple doesn't have to do it. If you really want this information, you have a control of the phone. You get it yourself. But if they can't do it internally, then they're going to go to vendors like NSO to get it done. So then are we saying to the FBI or to other government organizations, don't deal with these kind of vendors because we are uncomfortable with you purchasing this solution off the rack as opposed to maybe hiring engineers from NSO to say, no, no, no, you are now working for us. We want to pay you a salary. Like it is a salary and health benefits. Does that make us feel better? It certainly is a marginally bit better because then at least it's under the control of the government versus an independent company who might just sell it to anybody who's not going to have any scruples about which government they sell it to or or what shadow agency they might sell it to. Like it is out more out in the wild with a private company than it is with the government. But it doesn't change the underlying ethical problem there. I agree. ZDNet reports Microsoft's cumulative patch for Windows anniversary update, which rolled out Tuesday, has broken PowerShell. Remember they broke the webcams? Now they broke the shell. If you don't know PowerShell is a command line shell in scripting language usually used in the enterprise. Microsoft says a missing MOF, management object format file, breaks PowerShell's desired state configuration. That's a thing that's used by a bunch of CIS admins to manage groups of PCs using automation. So essentially it's causing a lot of CIS admins a bunch of unexpected extra work in managing their enterprises. A separate missing binary also breaks importing a remote session, which just makes your life even worse. Microsoft says they're sorry and their next update will come August 30th. That's seven, no, five days away. Is this something that for you is now, are we into troubling trend territory? It's starting to be like with the webcam thing. I am one to be willing, not just a Microsoft to any operating system maker to understand that this is a very complex problem. Every once in a while they're going to make a decision that they don't think causes a critical error and actually does. Some people are reading the release notes and saying it looks to me like Microsoft knew this was going to be a problem and they released it anyway. There is also the constant trend for people to want to jump on a Microsoft or an Apple or even a Red Hat. And if there's any problem with any release, point fingers and accuse them of trying to undermine them. And I don't think Microsoft's trying to undermine anyone. But at this point, Windows 10 certainly not airtight in its updates. Well, I mean, and even considering it came in like a wrecking ball for many users with the way that it sort of snuck in through the bathroom window two lyrics in one new story. Well done, Miley. You know, as far as getting itself on the computers in general, I will say it seems as if at least with both of these particular problems, I know my wife having worked at Twitch, the webcam thing was a serious issue for them.   But the fact that this is not a hot fix kind of thing, but more of a let's wait five days kind of thing. Although on one hand, you would say, well, better get it right than create new problems, which, you know, updates obviously can do seems at least on its face a little callous. Yeah, I feel like Microsoft is caught in engineering thing where it's like, no, we have a plan and we knew we risked certain things happening and those things happened. And so we knew the risks and that's fine. But we have a plan and the plan is to fix it on August 30th.  No, you know, also doesn't feel really good. Sports writer Jim Weber, who described on LinkedIn how he received a permanent suspension to his Twitter account after tweeting three GIFs featuring images of moments from the Rio Olympic Games. Weber received a DMCA takedown notice from Twitter, including an email from the International Olympic Committee director of legal affairs, giving him 10 whole minutes to confirm that he had complied with the takedown request. After three minutes, his account was suspended by Twitter and he subsequently received notification that his suspension had become permanent. After this story received attention, his account suspension was reviewed and unsuspended. However, this is not just an Olympic story. This week, the WWE suspended three accounts for publishing GIFs, including the most popular Senior Laredo, which not only posted GIFs from a WWE SummerSlam event, which was this Sunday, but also routinely post GIFs from various different organizations like New Japan Pro Wrestling and CMLL in Mexico. You have to imagine that this is something that we will see yet again when the NFL season begins as they have an actual monetary relationship with Twitter. Yeah, in the widest sense possible, this is very much just the typical thing that happens when a platform starts to partner with the big guys. And the most obvious example is YouTube. YouTube wanted to get the television and movie industry to be comfortable with it, so it partnered and it created Content ID and it has very similar issues. On the other side, Twitter is trying very hard to justify itself as the place to go for live and it doesn't help their cause to be the place to go to get banned because you posted something that was happening live.  Three minutes is, let's forget about the fact that they didn't even honor the 10 minutes they said, according to Weber. 10 minutes would be, I mean, I don't check my email every 10 minutes. I try not to check my email that often, especially in the evenings, right? That's how you drive yourself nuts. You have to give someone fair notice. This is not the way the DMCA is supposed to work. I hate the way the DMCA works, even when it is working the way it's supposed to work. So no, this is again showing the power differential between an actual user of a system and the people with the money to take advantage of it. Well, okay. So first things first, let's understand that this is not a problem that's going away. Well, I suspect that we are going to see more and more. It is going to become a more and more of a thing that people are going to get suspended for this kind of stuff. And I suspect it will be a big issue when the NFL rolls around. The one thing that I think is kind of not even controversial is that Twitter's policy and whatever auto-generated system that they have that calculates whether or not you are getting permanently suspended or partly suspended is broken. Because the reason why he got a 10-minute warning and then was suspended after three minutes is likely because and based on the emails that he got from Twitter that they got subsequent DMCA takedown notices. And so whatever Twitter's algorithm said, whoa, this guy is a serial offender and he keeps offending even after he was warned. We got to take him down immediately as opposed to saying, all right, well, you have a day, you have a week, whatever. But there is a legal argument to be made on either side about whether or not GIFs, and man, I'm so excited that we are finally here at the final frontier of where GIFs rank in terms of copyright or trademark infringement. But whether or not GIFs are fair use, whether or not GIFs are in any way under Safe Harbor, whether or not GIFs are something that when posted on Twitter is not cool or on a website is not cool, it seems like right now Twitter is debuting for their partners or for large users of their platform, ways that they can further police their content. But the personhood of a GIF is something that we really need to talk about legally. Well, it's not going to be any different than it has been, which is, yes, I have the fair use right on Twitter during a news event to post an image and make commentary about it. That's it. That's covering several of the factors of fair use. That don't matter, because if the IOC says, that's our image, we want it down Twitter, and Twitter says, great, well, you have to pull it down, dude. And I say, well, I'd like to counter notice. They first of all didn't give them time to counter notice. Second of all, then the IOC has the right to go, well, we're going to take you to court then. And who's going to respond to that? Say, fine, I will take the International Olympic Committee to court with all of my money bags, like very few of us. So it ends up that might wins. And you end up taking it down because you don't want to fight the battle, because fair use is a defense. And so you have to go to court to defend your right. You don't get the right until you go to court. And if you don't have the money to go to court, you basically don't have the right. I'll tell you what, I know how we can solve all this. Just have Peter Teal post a GIF of Hulk Hogan. Yeah, he can actually, yeah, you're right. No, he's got the money to do it. You just post a GIF of Hulk Hogan going over or getting pinned horrifyingly and that's about $8.97 in that total botch ending. And then we'll see whether or not WWE comes after Peter Teal. Researchers at Harvard University have developed an autonomous soft robot that looks like an octopus. Those are all factual words. I didn't make that up. Researcher George Whitesides has developed a microfluidic logic circuit that controls a hydrogen peroxide reaction that creates gas, which can power the machine's tentacles. The prototype is small. It's about the size of an SD card right now and it can only wiggle its tentacles, but it wheels them on its own. You don't tell it what to wiggle. It just does it. Team plans to build one eventually that can crawl and swim, which would, I think, impress more people. And it is made by a combination of 3D printing, molding and soft lithography and has no rigid components. So they're taking inspiration from biological structures like squid and octopus that don't have any hard structures and trying to make autonomous robots that can do things that rigid robots couldn't do and be programmed to do them on their own. One to 10, Tom. Where is this as nightmare fuel for you? I don't have a big octopus fear. So I'd call it a six for me on the nightmare scale. Squiggly tentacle things working on their own that are operated by a machine intelligence brings it above five. But yeah, that's about as far as it goes.  I'm calling it right now. Well, I would not bet against that. Absolutely not. Starting in September, Uber will begin experimenting with prepaid flat rate rides in San Francisco. Users in the test have to buy a pre-bundled package of 20 or 40 rides at $20 or $20 and $30 respectively. Users can then use those rides in September to obtain flat rate Uber pull ride for $2 or Uber X for $7. Rides that exceed $20 in value will have the overage paid out of pocket. Tom, this seems to be a fairly naked attempt to get the everyday commuter into the Uber habit. Do you think it'll work? Yeah, I think it's San Francisco to work. In fact, I wouldn't test this in San Francisco because I think that's probably the worst place to get a sense of what the average person would do with this. But I guess maybe what they're thinking is, well, if they can make it there, they'll make it anywhere. Why is San Francisco? Because you've got more people that are willing to use ridesharing in the home of the tech world than you would, say, in St. Louis, Missouri. Sure. I mean, there's also the idea that this is probably only going to be popular in a certain, in few places. San Francisco also has the geographical advantage of being serviced fairly sporadically by public transportation. BART only really goes through half the city. If you live in a place that doesn't have really close BART or Caltrain stops, this seems to be a godset that you would be able to just commute on Uber pool rides for $2 a day, which is. Well, but it's actually like $3 a day because you pay for the pool and then you pay again for the ride. You're paying for the privilege of a flat rate. Yes. But door to door. So if you pay for 20 rides, you're paying a total of $60 for the 20 rides because it's $20 for the package and then it's $2 a ride for the 20 rides. Wait, all right. $20 here. Let's get this straight then. So you're saying 20 rides, you pay $20, that gets you in the club. Yeah, exactly. That's the price of admission. You now have 20 rides before you have to pay $20 again. No. You pay $20 to get $22 rides and every ride you have to pay $2. But that doesn't come out of that 20? No. So $20. $20 gets you in the door and says, hey, you have $22 tickets now. You start to pay $2 for every ticket. You have the right to pay $2. Instead of paying surge pricing or whatever. Yeah. And that gets you a ride up to $20. Up to 20 rides. No, no, no. This is the problem with it. It's too confusing. Listen, listen, listen. Rides that exceed a $20 value would have the overage paid out of pocket. So. Right. That's an extra. No, you're right. That's an extra problem with it. From weekday to weekends, you pay $2 on UberPool or $7 on UberX. And by the way, if you're using UberX, it's going to be more, right? When your trip begins or ends north of Caesar Chavis Street in San Francisco. So if you're taking a ride outside of that area, then you have to pay the overage. AKA the airport. Yeah. This is too way too complicated. I've never. No, this, but this is for, this is for commuters within San Francisco. This is, I live, oh my God, this is, and this is, I'm going to use to drive me up the wall when I didn't live in the Bay Area. Now I'm going to do it. But if you, if you live in, in, in the Presidio, right? And you work downtown, then this is a way for you to get between those two places door to door. Just give me, let me pay $60 a month for flat rides within the area. That I can wrap mine.  Well, I mean, we, we apologize for taking you down this mathematical journey of provincial tech nonsense. Yeah. Although it might actually save people money. Or maybe, maybe we'll find out. Well, thanks to all those who participate in our subreddit and some of them braving the world of mathematics to figure out these stories, doing voting, doing submitting. It's dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. If you want to get in there and join T.G. Steller, PC guy, 8088, Strikot Rich One, and Tarros, we encourage it because it helps us put together our show. And that's a look at the top stories. All right. So I'm going to break down the WhatsApp and the Apple stories. And I'm going to throw it to Justin for a little comparison here, because I've got, I've got a thought about this. WhatsApp announced it's revising its privacy policy. Now Jan Kuhn has been saying, since Facebook bought WhatsApp in 2014, we're not, we're not changing our ethics, but they are changing the privacy policy. They're going to let Facebook see your phone number so that Facebook's systems can offer better friend suggestions and show more relevant ads to you on Facebook. So they'll show the phone number, which Facebook can then match, even if you don't put the phone number in your account. If your phone number isn't someone else's Facebook account, they can match you. It'll also show Facebook your last use, your operating system, your screen resolution, your device ID, and your country code. And they say that'll help fight spam. WhatsApp says it will not sell, post, or share your WhatsApp numbers with third parties. It will also test how businesses can use WhatsApp to connect to customers, which you can already do on SMS. So that's something that might be nice. You can choose not to let Facebook use the data. You uncheck a box at the bottom of the new terms of service. You also have 30 days to change your mind if you don't uncheck it at the terms of service. But Facebook still links the accounts. You can't stop them from doing that. All you can stop them from doing is using that data. Now, less firm, although Mark Gurman has good sources. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman and Alex Webb are reporting that Apple is developing a video sharing and editing app for iOS as a response to Snapchat. So it would do things like apply filters, let you draw, send to contacts. Although the spin is you would send it through existing social networks like Twitter. At least that seems to be what's going on. Designed to be used with one hand, take less than a minute to create a video, aim for a 2017 release. Testing enhancements to make it easier to see all the interactions with a contact, email, text, and social network posted in a single panel. It's kind of a separate thing, but it's in this article. But at the end of the day, what Apple's considering is, whether it's in the camera or as a separate app, letting you have Snapchat functionality that you could then send out to others through social networks. Now, Justin, here's my question. Do we want either of these things that these companies are proposing? I would say more the Apple than the WhatsApp. The WhatsApp agreement seems to be something that needs to be done internally between the parent company and the fiercely independent WhatsApp. And you're right, the CEO of WhatsApp has made a cottage industry in talking about how they, sure, they took the money, but they are not going to change what they consider to be a very fiercely loyal relationship they have with their users, both on price and on privacy. What Apple is doing, which is kind of different than what Facebook has done, is stubbornly continue to try to build their own social networks and their social network functioning. Part of what is spelled out in this Bloomberg article is that Tim Cook sees hardware sales slowing. He sees the future to be service on some level. He sees the gigantic trail of pings that we've had from Apple as they have been very poor on web services in general and social networks almost laughably specifically. But what they do well is connect people with iMessage and connect people with their Messenger app and connect people with group chats. That has been something that continues to be a big point of connection for them. So they're saying, how can we continue to bring that to the next level by way of video and video sharing? It's also something interesting in this that they are using the developers of the iMovie iOS app as their developers for these new camera functionalities. So they are thinking of it as a little bit more, hey, let's make these things really quickly but be intuitive and robust in terms of how you are handling it like the iMovie apps are, which I think are pretty good for whatever is coming here now. But I think to answer your question, people want a more robust camera app. I don't know whether or not that's a standalone titled, funnily, weird Apple social network but I think that they want a more robust camera app that they can share more easily with group chats and on Twitter than WhatsApp users would raise their hand and say, oh, please share my information with Facebook. Yeah, no, it's fair enough. The 90% of the world that uses Android doesn't give a flying F about whether Apple comes up with some standalone app that only other Apple users can use to send things to each other. The reason iMessage is as robust as you're talking about is that it works with SMS. The reason FaceTime is even something that people still use is because it's layered on top of your phone and you can choose to, oh, I can do a FaceTime call with this person, okay, I'll do that. So that's why it would make more sense to me if they put these Snapchat-like features as just an extra feature in the camera. It's like, hey, you can now send these through text message on iMessage. You could send them through Twitter. Like, we're not creating a social network. We're adding a functionality to camera. I say, yeah, okay, then Apple is doing something that maybe users want. Maybe they didn't know they want, but maybe they want. If Apple makes a standalone app that I have to remember to download and I can only use to communicate with other people that have iOS, forget it. No, that's just dumb. Then it's going to be Peach-A-Jace, right? Yeah, exactly. It's going to be a thing that blows up for five seconds and we can all get really excited and the number one account will be Haramby and we'll all laugh and it'll be a fun week and then nobody will remember it ever again. On the WhatsApp side, they're feeling a similar pressure, right? What Apple wants to do is say, hey, Facebook's got three of the top 10 apps in our app store. We're not making any money off of those. We want to make something. Now, granted, they're not monetizing it directly, but we want to make something that brings that customer relationship back closer to us. How do we do that? How do we capture these Snapchat and Facebook Messenger users and bring them it back into our sphere? Facebook's looking at WhatsApp thinking exactly the same thing. Like, that's the most popular messaging app on the planet right there and we own it and we're not getting any benefit from it and they just can't resist any longer. So what they're trying to do is say, hey, we're not changing WhatsApp at all. All we're doing is saying with your permission, although you're opted in, you have to opt out, your phone number will be matched up with a phone number that's already identified with you on Facebook. It's not like we didn't know it and we're doing it only to improve your Facebook experience. Now, that can sound rational from a certain point of view, but I'm still curious how this is all going to shake out from WhatsApp users. I don't think a bunch of people are going to quit, but I certainly have seen a couple people say they're going to uninstall WhatsApp today because they relied on it for security. And to be fair, WhatsApp isn't changing its end-to-end encryption. They're not sending your message content over there to Facebook or anything like that, but I think a lot of people who are very sensitive to this issue see this as the first step down the road to perdition. Let's ask that question then because a lot has been made with Facebook saying, hey, where the fun hacker plays and we're going to, sure, we'll acquire all these companies and we'll spend a crazy amount of money on Instagram and a crazy amount of money on WhatsApp, but we're just going to let them go because we're just here for the smarts. We want to be where all the cool kids come and hang out, build cool things, pull them into our garage, we'll protect you, we'll let you let them grow in the best way possible because we're Facebook. Thumbs up, freeze frame. But now, Instagram puts in an algorithm that makes it a different kind of experience for some people. What's app now sharing data? Have the chickens come home to roost a little bit on these? I, you know, it's funny because it does feel, and this may be entirely unfair, but it does feel like Facebook said, we will acquire things and leave them alone and then they just couldn't, they couldn't resist anymore. They just couldn't leave them alone anymore. On the one hand, I actually like what they did with the Instagram news feed and I don't see that as intrusive because it's saying, hey, we're just doing a similar thing. Yeah, we're not actually putting Facebook inside your Instagram or vice versa. Whereas with WhatsApp, they are taking data, my private data and giving it to something that I, you know, I may not have been involved with and certainly is not what I considered to be part of WhatsApp. And I have to take action. That's the part that always gets me. Anything that's opt out always bothers me. I have to take action to stop it. And even if I take action to stop it, it really doesn't stop the identification, the association. It just stops the use of it. Yeah. It makes the big network effect slightly less effective because if three of your friends have your phone number and share your data or share their data with WhatsApp, then you're still going to get matched up just as well. Right? Like, Yeah. And honestly, okay, a phone number is not super private. I get that.  You know, people can look up your phone number. It's easy to find out phone numbers, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. But if I went to WhatsApp because Jan Coombe has been telling me like, we are all about your privacy. We are all about a simple service that just does messaging, suddenly that feels like a broken promise to me. Also, to answer my hypothetical question, I definitely believe I'm more on your side that I think that Instagram's evolution feels like just something that they are doing to evolve the product and that that is more the traditional relationship between a larger parent company and a smaller company that maybe there's some internal dialogue of like, oh, well, this is what a algorithm can do for you, right? Or some talent sharing there. But in general, this doesn't feel like something that was put, come down from on high with Facebook in the way that, well, I don't think WhatsApp was running to Facebook saying, hey, how can we better share our people's data with you? Yeah. I, you know, the 30,000 foot view here, though, for all of that is messaging is the new, there's gold in them, Darhills area. It's the new gold rush. Everybody is trying to figure out messaging, video and text in the Silicon Valley area over there in Tencent land. They're like, I think we got this cracked and lines like, we're doing pretty good with it too. But even them, they are trying to maintain their momentum. Like this, these are the gold fields of 2016. Do you want to, real quick, some breaking news coming in? Yeah. No. I'm glad you mentioned that. Google Fiber, according to ours, Technica, John Brodkin, who's very good at this sort of thing, has halved the size of its Google Fiber team to 500 people. This is according to a paywalled report from the information that's quoting people close to the alphabet. So shouldn't give all the credit to John Brodkin. Should give it to the information also very good at this sort of thing. The report does not say whether any staff cuts have actually occurred. And it apparently has to do with the fact that they're just not signing up enough people. So way short of the five million subscribers that apparently had been a goal for them. This is sad? Is sad a way to say this?  That's sad. That's the end. Google Fiber's on its way down. It may be the right thing to do. It may be that what was happening was in the heady days before alphabet was formed, they just hired to the skies because that was the culture. Like don't worry about the money. Hire whomever you need. And in these more constrained times of we need to run like a business, this just may be what needed to be done to make Google Fiber a profitable company. So there's the other side of this that said it doesn't look good that they're cutting half the staff. Well, especially because Google Fiber has been such a change agent for the entire industry, the entire. I've seen most recently in Chicago, right, where Comcast is double the price for gigabit fiber that it is in other areas of the country where it's in competition with either AT&T or Google.  Although let's not put this on an island from other stories about Google Fiber, including that they are looking at more of a microwave point point broadband and away. I mean, effectively Google Fiber as great as they were, they were there because Google is mega rich and can afford to pay the lobbyists and can afford to pay the lawyers that gets them into the business of digging holes and putting wires into them and running them from one place to another so they can get an entire neighborhood or city onto their service. The better version of this is the one where you don't have to dig holes in the ground and you don't have to pay the same lawyers. You don't have to pay the same lobbyists and there are not protectionist legal systems in place to stop competitors, especially rich ones from coming into an oligarchy of telecoms. So it is interesting to see the mechanizations there, but I would say for all the cord cutters, let's not freak out just yet. Yeah, the other side of this is a lot of people who have been saying for a long time, no, it really isn't a good market yet. People don't want that fast of internet yet. Sure, all you guys in Silicon Valley, all you people who do tech podcasts out of your house, you guys want it, but the vast majority don't, which is why Verizon stopped rolling out Fios. And so this may be Google realizing, oh gosh, you know what? They were kind of right. Like not as many people want this yet. We're a little bit ahead of the game. And bring it to the places where we do want it. Seriously. Tip of the hat to another Jay Martin, by the way, who put that into the chat room and Beatmaster got it in there as well. Hey, the email for pick of the day came this week about Mr. Robot from like six different people. One of them wrote and said, I just started playing Mr. Robot, the mobile game today. And funnily enough, you talked about chat interfaces on the show on Wednesday. Mr. Robot is a chat based game where you find a phone, at least in the game, that you make simple predefined choices based on the text messages you receive on this phone. It's all done within the app and it's very simple and awesome. Even the name of the app dot IPA or dot APK follows the TV show Gestalt. You can get it on iTunes for 299 has no real references to the show. So it's not super spoilery if you're worried about that, but it does have that show feeling. That's great, man. I'm very excited to catch up on Mr. Robot. I kind of fell off when the conventions hit, but I'm pumped to get back into the season. Yeah, my wife just caught up on Mr. Robot last week. And so she had a little bit of a meltdown last night when we were trying to figure out how to start the show off the PlayStation View online DVR from the beginning while it was still happening. At one point I was like, you might just have to wait until the show's over and then start it. But then buried in the Roku interface, I figured it out and our marriage was saved. It's all good there. But yeah, thank you too. I believe it was Scott Foster who sent us today's pick. You guys are the best for sending it. Thanks to everybody who sent it as well. Send your picks to us, folks. Feedback to dailytechnewshow.com. You can find more picks at dailytechnewshow.com slash picks. Justin, Robert Young, before we get out of here, what do you got to tell folks about? 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No. But the top one is spy phone. All right. Actually, wait a minute. That was usurped by WhatsApp. WhatsApp was my privacy. Better call FUPA. I don't like that because that has a different kind of nation, I think. Yeah. Beware of wrestlers bearing gifts. Game of telecoms. I support a flat taxi platform. I'm kind of cool with WhatsApp with my privacy. I like that one. That's pretty clever. Well done, Beatmaster. You've beat the others out to gain the... Do you have a dissenting vote, Justin, before we... No. I'm with it. I'm with it. Motion carried. That was easy. Did any other good ones in there, though? Let me see. Software of a merit.  That was... I guess that would have been funny. What, eight years ago? Nine years ago? Peach adjacent. Sticky not to say that. It's not funny. It's just perhaps time. The Trail of Pings.  What's with all these... somewhat euphemistic lewd terms?  That's a quote. From you. So what's with the lewd euphemisms? No seat driver. No seat driver. Oh, no seat... Right, instead of back seat driver. Okay. Power shell shock. Oh, is that Botopus? Botopus? Botopus. Botopus? Botopus. But... Oh, yeah, like Octopus? Botopus? Botopus? All right. Botopus Prime. Sounds like a transformer. Peace. Peach adjacent. I don't know what that means. Peach adjacent. That's the... Peach is the social network app that Justin referred to in the show. But there's no NT. Or is that... Oh, yeah. It's just typo. Okay. I assume it's meant to be adjacent. Facebook could leave well... Could leave well, update alone. Or like, what's up with my privacy? Oh, yeah. It's already in there. I was just... Yeah. I'm thinking of telecoms. Well done, Miley. Who is that? Well done, Miley's father. Miley McCartney? Oh, I was thinking Cyrus. No, because he referenced Bill Paul McCartney and Miley. The Cyrus. The Cyrus Clan. That sounds like someone you guys like a group of people you don't want to mess with. Cyrus Clan. Detailed pings. They take people's... Text you have in the chat. It's like, the vote did not include all delegates. It's happening again. You voted on your title without considering all the votes. Or the other votes. Because we picked the title before we actually read the rest of them. He's making a convention illusion. He's feeling the burn. Illusion or illusion? Ah, with an A. Ah. I support a flat taxi platform. It's kind of funny. Although I wouldn't fit in a flat taxi. I don't think most people would. That's the flat taxi. So, Justin, I noticed on your snaps when you were doing the callouts for D stickers or DIAF that in short succession you had a callout for Austin, Texas. Yeah. South Jordan, Utah. Yeah. And Los Angeles, California. I did, yeah. It struck me as coincidental. That I know people who live in all three of those locations. One of them would be me. Yeah, no. I also had a couple more for Los Angeles and New York City and Disco. And, uh... Interesting. It was interesting. A lot of... Well, no, I kind of was struck. I was thinking just about the stickers in general and kind of where we go from here. The reaction's been fantastic. You know, since we only started it like four months ago or whatever. But, uh, you know, really it was just like, it's like, all right, well, what am I doing? Right? And part of it was just like, this is for the community. And so I kind of had this thought, like, if this is for the community, then I want everybody who makes the most significant stuff in our community to have stickers. So I sent stickers to you.  Oh, yeah, of course. Carter did it. But, uh, yeah, Andrew, Veronica, Anthony and Jeff from We Have Concerns, and Brian sent a bunch of other people. So... Would you say the largest number went to Los Angeles? Of the free ones that I sent out? Yeah. Probably. I mean, because that's Andrew, that's you, that's Canada and Carpone. Yeah, uh-huh. Silicon Beach, man. Represent. Yeah, no, it was, uh, it was definitely, definitely a bunch of them. But, um, you know, we, uh, I really, I don't know, I really like the idea that people want to put these up. Like, I kind of feel like it's one of those things that we probably should have done a long time ago. Uh, you know, people, I think it's at the point where half the things that you wear on a regular basis are merchandise that was created just by fans or by members of our community that just wanted them to exist. So they put their own time, effort and money into creating them. Yeah. Then it's like, yeah, we should probably take a more concerted, serious effort into putting diamond logo stuff just kind of into the ether because I think people just want them and they want good stuff. And, uh, we're going to have a pack at DragonCon. Okay. Is it a special pack or? It'll be a mix of what we have now and what we just recently phased out. So we're going to bring those back and there will be one specific DragonCon, Con of a Dragon 7. Yeah, this is our seventh, our seventh show. Between NSFW and Dynatech. This is the seventh. NSFW and Dynatech. This is the seventh show that we've done. Also, we are now on Saturday, not Sunday, which we've always been kind of uncomfortable with on Saturday because it's a bigger day. We like the quieter Sunday. Sure. And one of the bigger rooms too. Well, yeah. And we're in the Grand Salon East in the Hilton, which holds 1,000 people, which, uh, well, that's hope that we get people out. Wait, the Grand Salon East in the Hilton. Oh. That's basically where they used to have the Star Trek. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I think you did DTNS there. Yeah, I did. Last year. Last year. Was either last year or the year before. I can't remember, but yeah. It's a big room. That's what I remember about it. Uh, yeah. But you always, you're always like spilling out of the doorways in that crystal ball room. So you needed a bigger room. Yeah. I mean, you know, we hope, we hope, we hope we do well. No reason not to go. I don't think we're going to get close to the 1,000 limit, right? But hopefully we can, we can, you know, get closer to 800. Go visit more. Text Jeb, it's, no, the track. Not Star Trek. Yeah, yeah. The star, they put the autographs and they called it the Star Trek. Yeah. Right? It's like upstairs, right? Second floor. Yeah. Yeah. Not Star Trek. It's not where Patrick Stewart talked. No. Anyhow. All right, guys. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to get back to the ground here, but I love you. Hi, man. Quick question. You're all good from Monday, right? Monday, Monday, Monday. I'll be there with bells on. So what time should I start chatting with you, 1030-ish, 11? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, 10's fine. Cool. Sweet. Awesome. All right, bye. Bye. Bye. Just got to get that in there. Make sure, make sure, make sure. Reminder, you're all doing this tomorrow. Oh my gosh. What am I going to do? Look, Eileen, I can see, I can see the podcast burning from the other side of the business. Oh, stop. It's not going to be like that at all. I hope not. No, I should. It might, it might, the discussion topics might, might take a odd turn or two, I'm sure. That's fine. No, you guys should, you guys should discuss whatever feels right. How Tom abandoned us. Sure. That's what he really feels right. Oh, no. We'll, we'll keep it, we'll keep it close to the ideals that you have set forth. No, I want you, I want you to talk about stuff that you're into, feel you can do a good job with or enthusiastic about talking about. And that's, that's the only way I pick my topics. So it's going to be good. It'll be great. I'm just going to put it on Tuesday. It'll be great. It's going to fill that Tuesday. And it'll be great. Yeah, I said that. I think it Tuesday booked. I'm sure. Yeah. What is it? It's just something happened.  It's Warcraft. Warcraft comes out that day. Nobody, everybody just wants to stay home and play it. Me, I don't, I'm not a wow guy. Tomorrow should be good. Yeah, I didn't hear back from Jen, but I'm curious what topic she was good for tomorrow. I can ping her again. She told, I, I, she was on chat and I just pinged her six or you could for tomorrow. Yeah, I emailed her to basically just seeing if she had a topic idea. Oh, shoot her another thing. She'll respond eventually. I know she will. She's running around a lot, unfortunately, because of things. Things and stuff. Yeah, life.  Never experienced that. No, I don't know what you mean. You know, that's, I once complained to someone, it's like, why is it that opportunities and what's the opposite of opportunities, calamities, I guess, right? All happen in like, like rapid succession, right? They're never spaced, so you could take a breather. It's like, all right, you know, like, oh, you got to choose between five of these really awesome things you can do, but you can only do one. You can't do all of them. They cluster stochastically. It's just, and then it's just. Yeah, they're not evenly spaced. All right, well, thanks everybody for watching. I'll be back tomorrow with Jen Cutter and Lampralta. Talk to you then. Doot, doot, doot, doot, doot, doot. Are we off the air?


Hello, everyone. Welcome to the People's Health Dispatch video interview. Recently, the UK Home Office has come under severe criticism by human rights and health activists for its plan to deport asylum seekers from UK to Rwanda. Former Home Secretary Preeti Patel's plans have caused alarm and have been quoted to breach basic human rights and international law. In addition to widespread mobilization against the removals, the policy led to actions by many professional groups, including physicians. In this episode of People's Health Dispatch, we are meeting with Liana Reynolds and Sipeda Saleh, co-signatories of an appeal sent to Patel by more than 400 doctors in the UK. Welcome, Liana and Sipeda. Hello. To begin with, could you tell us a bit more about the context in which this policy was shaped and what did it set out to achieve, actually, as the government? This is a fantastic but slightly complicated question for someone who is really just a hematology trainee with a conscience.  But the concept of seeking asylum isn't new, where there are wars and natural disasters, if there's desperation, then people are going to take their future in their hands and migrate and seek refuge somewhere new. Historically, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights in 1948 and then later the Geneva Convention, so 1951, formalized the responsibility of neighboring countries and countries all around the world to recognize the rights of people who are in that desperate situation and who are seeking asylum. And the real question I think is, if it's been going on for such a long time, why is it a problem now? Why is now when people are getting so up in arms about it? And sadly, between global economics being not so great at the moment, a large number of wars, climate change and the effects that's having with natural disasters, famine, drought, there is an increase in people seeking asylum, including people seeking asylum in the UK, but actually worldwide. 89 million people were forcibly displaced over the last year with 53 million being internally displaced, 27 million are people who already have asylum status, who already are refugees and 4.6 million are people who are seeking asylum. So when you look at the big numbers, actually, it's a very small number of people who are seeking asylum, but massive numbers of people are being displaced, including this internally displaced. And it is a major problem. So why are people coming to the UK? Well, although it's a smaller proportion of people, the UK is considered an attractive place to go to because it's perceived as being safe. It's perceived as being a peaceful place. And the UK has fostered, it has created influence over other countries, over generations. And that's via the media. I think Mr Bean and Friends has been played on every ferry or plane I've been on ever. It's education, it's the language. And to be frank about it, we colonize lots of the world. So England has had a major part in the history of large proportions of the world. And that's something that we have to own. It is our history. And because of that influence being broadcast globally for generations, people see the UK as a place that would be good to restart their life. And I think we probably want people to think that UK is a good place to be. So it kind of fits. But where did this policy of actually sending back people, citizens, citizens is a different thing. But they're sending back someone who is in the UK right now. These asylum seekers. So what's the root of this policy or this act of sending back? And we also see this comes with a lot of nationalism, with a lot of right-wing kind of understanding also sometimes. And in the name of actually saving money, austerity, doing good to the citizens by pointing out that someone who has come from Uganda has the main problem. Sipida, would you like to say something in addition to what Liyana has to say? So yes, I think there's many aspects to this, of course. We have what started with, well, it started long before it, but Theresa May had a policy. This billboard that proclaimed go home everywhere. And there were a number of policies around that time, high profile policies, which really aimed to make it difficult for people who are seeking asylum in the UK, make life more difficult. And around that, there was a wider system of so-called hostile environment through the legal systems, etc. And this can really worsen, I think, the trauma for people who are essentially just seeking a safe place to live. In addition, in this country, it tends to cost so much more in terms of benefits and legal fees and just prevents people from getting what they need in a country which is just a safe, fresh start, I think, and then a chance next to start contributing to the economy and working as humans like we all do here. So this is kind of deterrent policy that started many years ago, but was also brought up again by Theresa May. However, I think it's really important to recognise that people, before they enter the UK, they don't know about this. They have no idea. And travelling here, they're just coming to what they perceive to be like Liyana says, a place of safety. So it's very, very unlikely to be working as any sort of deterrent for people who are just trying to come over and start a new life, essentially. I don't think it's aimed at them either. I don't think it's aimed at people that are on their way here. I think it's a very cunning play after an economic downturn in the UK where British system quality of life has decreased. And instead of saying the problem is this, that and the other, they've sort of pointed the problem is them. So the hostile environment is not really aimed to stop people coming to the UK because they don't, people don't know. If you were in a camping alley, you do not know that there is someone going around with a billboard in London telling people to go home. How could you? So it's aimed for appeasing a group of people in the UK. And let's be frank about it. It's a group of people in the UK who are fundamentally brought up in a racist system. We have a country which was built around the idea that white people deserve a better life than everyone else. That's what came up initially. That's where we started. And although people are working hard to get away from that, and there's less and less in frank open society, that is the foundation that UK is built on. And it gets people's backs up and people don't like it. And it's not always conscious. People may not realise they do it, but it's there. And we have to recognise it in order to move forward. And that benefit system that was put in place to support people who are struggling is for everybody, but it's perceived by white British people to be for white British people. And that, that is part of the problem. So yeah, a bit of misdirection. Yeah, it's to an extent diverting the, you know, whole situation from, you know, chronic capitalism and the economic downturn towards showing that a few asylum seekers are the reason for the present situation in the UK. But, you know, and also it has its roots, of course, in xenophobia and racism to an extent. And I think we do know the colonial past also adds to this, you know, but coming to the campaign in your letter that you have sent to the Home Secretary have listed out a set of reasons that provoked you as health workers to react to the, to whatever has been happening. Can you please walk us through some of those, maybe both Liana and then Cepeda? I have to say on this one, I sort of started the letter, but I've, I wasn't the person that gave it form. So I am, I developed an interest in, in helping friends. I have friends who are seeking asylum, who I was supporting in the, in the area where I live. And through that, I have seen how ridiculous the policies are and how ridiculously difficult it is for people who just want to get on with their lives to contribute and start afresh to do that because of the barriers that are put in place by the home office. And they are massive barriers. There's, it's made very difficult to, to get education. It's been made very difficult to contribute in any meaningful way. And we have massive uncertainty, relocation around the country at regular intervals, people don't get a chance to make friends. So just being a friend and knowing people means that this is important to me. And then I saw this policy come into place. And I think the, the real backdrop to the policy, one of the main things was the, the 2015 Alan Curdie, a two-year-old boy from Syria, was found on a beach in Turkey. And there was this big outcry of boats are sinking, people are dying, this must stop. And that came from a good place, I think. But the government at the time took a whole bunch of people who were sympathetically saying, boats must stop. This is, this is not right. And a whole bunch of people who are, for other reasons, saying the boats must stop, people can't be having our benefits, our system, money is limited, we need it for our own. And he combined this together into the policy of we need to not have people migrating to the UK, including not having refugees. So that's, that's sort of where that policy's backdrop is. And when this policy came through, and I saw the information that it was having that's going to cause and the terrorists causing people, I just thought this is not, this is not right. We can't do this. This is not what my country, this is what my country should be doing. And I saw a letter from a group of professionals in media that was a professionals letter about the Rwanda policy, appealing not to not to do it. And I thought, well, I'm a professional. And there are professional reasons not to do this. There are very good medical reasons not to do this. We should write a letter. So I put a post on a Facebook group with, oh, I don't know how many doctors are on that group now, quite a few. But they're all medical and they're all mums. And said, should we write a letter? Can someone help? And then Sapeedah, thank goodness, answered and provided content, which is exactly what I was struggling with. So I'm probably better to hand over to Sapeedah when it comes to the actual content of it. Thank you so much, Leanna. And thank you for explaining so much about the background and where you're coming from. And I'd like to say the content, I think, was very much there. I came from a slightly different perspective, where I had done research with asylum seekers in the past and kind of made friends and things as well, of course, from that setting. So having insights, having done interviews and written about people who are in this situation, again, as you say, it became so clear how these asylum seekers just are a group of people who, firstly, they may well be medically and psychologically vulnerable, but this is because they've been so resilient to what we see as often extreme hardship before migration. So what we would call a pre-migration and migration histories. To so many people like you and me, but who had before migrating and throughout their migration, which was often complex and dangerous, have faced a lot of hardships. So I'd say taking this and taking both of our social research and our medical backgrounds, we kind of try to set out some of the reasons, as you say, for being against this as medical people, being against this policy. So talking about just to note now, I'm using the word forced location or forced relocation rather than deportation, which is often used because the people that we're talking about here, they've not had their cases heard or denied. So that would have been the definition of deportation. So the policy of relocating people to Rwanda really is a forced relocation. So this forced relocation to Rwanda that we're talking about with, as it is, no clear plan for health care, for maternity care, for any kind of psychiatric or psychological support that people need. We would have said it's unethical, clearly unethical to say the least. And it's not something that most medical professionals and certainly the large number of people signing the letter would accept for any of the people under their care, any of our patients. So to talk through a couple of just clear examples of this, one particular example is a medical issue like malaria. So in the UK, our guidance for all travellers and anyone, any citizen states that malaria risk in Rwanda is high throughout the year in all areas of Rwanda and it recommends prophylaxis, malaria prophylaxis for all travellers. But for these asylum seekers being forcibly sent to Rwanda, there's no plan for any sort of prophylaxis and that's clearly putting them in a position of danger. Another example of just immediate harms that we see from this policy is that of LGBTQI plus people.  So again, I've met a lot of these people doing research, a lot of asylum seekers and heard really harrowing accounts of the oppression that have had in physical violence often from these people who were brave enough to have made it over here to seek safety. And in Rwanda, there's a clear record of risks to this group of people. So there's been regular detention, there's been harassment and physical violence against gay and transgender people. This has been reported by organisations like Human Rights Watch and even in a home office report in the UK.  So the removal of these vulnerable people to a place of what will be essentially of great danger is absolutely unthinkable to medics and other health professionals as well as I'm sure to the general public. And then finally, just to talk a little bit about the wider repercussions of this policy and how that affects generally people around the country. So again, in my work with asylum seekers, I'm sure Leanna has experienced very similar with her contacts and friends. It's so clear how this fear of forced relocation to unimaginable and dangerous circumstances suddenly becomes this overwhelming force in individuals' lives. So they're essentially trying to protect their safety and protect the safety of their children. And a large number of asylum seekers will therefore avoid contact with any services, including services to which they are legally they have a legal right. So so many people then avoid end up avoiding seeking health care for acute conditions, chronic conditions, avoid seeking maternity care in pregnancy and so on. Then at times this can create such bigger and actually much more expensive in the long term problems in the UK just later along the line. And then in addition, there's a huge, huge mental burden of living under these circumstances that you hear so often speaking to asylum seekers. And this is all just unconscionable, I think for health professionals in this country. And it's quite inhuman about how you're actually putting back a person in the same circumstances that they came here, you know, try to leave or have left and come here. And then instead of being helpful to the asylum seeker who has come leaving all this trauma behind, you're actually also having a chilling effect where it looks like from what I understand that the health service, I mean, the health services and the social services there, instead of being receiving and showing warmth are actually giving a chilling effect by scaring them away from using or reaching out to any of these services. You know, I think in the past also we have heard many campaigns in similar by health professionals in UK, which will come to at a later thing. But you know, you have written a letter to the home secretary's office. And, you know, what is the present situation of this policy? What is the status of the policy as we meet today? How many people have been impacted by this policy? And are there any plans to take forward building of alternative discourse? Is there much more activism? Is there much more resistance to what is happening? And what is the kind of reaction from both the health and medical fraternity, but also beyond generally politically in the UK? I think it's worth saying that the health care community is slightly atypical in the UK, because we are a diverse group. And we choose to work in the NHS, which generally means that we're used to a bit of suffering for the sake of the greater good. Because it's basic, it's not what people would opt for if they realised. So I think, I think amongst health care workers, you see a lot more sympathy when it comes to this kind of thing. And that's a positive thing to take forward. But I also think as health care workers, we see more of the consequences. Just like Sir Peter said, when people come in with a complication of pregnancy, if they haven't seen anyone all the way through, that's us there dealing with that. And you compare that to, recently we had a group of refugees coming from Afghanistan who were granted asylum before they came into the country. And the process by which they were seen by medical personnel and everyone who needed predical input were put into the local systems immediately. And we saw some children come through the pediatric hematology department who went straight onto prophylaxis for their conditions and went on to be living normal lives, contributing and paying taxes and doing all the things at the family that we want people to do in the UK. And that's the system that works for everyone. It's cheaper for the UK taxpayer, it's better for people who are going through it. Surely that is what we're looking for. And the direction that policy is taking us at the moment is completely opposite to that. And that's what needs to change. And there are some organisations taking the Home Office to court about the policy. And no one yet has been forcibly relocated to Rwanda, thank goodness. But there are still people being issued with letters. There are still people who are right now in detention centres, fearing being deported at short notice or being relocated at short notice. And the effect of that is massive on those individuals. And while people are being harmed by it, we can't just sit back and let it happen. So it's something that people are getting involved with and people are trying to change. But it's individual people. That's how all the groups start. That's where it comes from. It's one person going onto a Facebook group and saying, hey, let's do something about this. And then it's another person saying, hey, yeah, let's do that. Let's just do something. So as medical professionals, there is Med Act, which we can get involved with and are very good. They're doing a campaign called Patients Not Passports, which is a very important campaign. The groups such as Detention Aid, Care for Calais, who are taking the Home Office to court over the policy. And I recommend and I recommend following those groups and contributing to those groups. I hear lawyers are expensive. So if anyone can financially help, that is useful. Protesting. I know that's harder at the moment, but we can protest much more safely than people seeking asylum can. So it's a good thing to do. Write to your local newspaper. Raise a discussion with people you read me. Write to your MP. Consider policies when you vote, particularly policies about immigration and about how we treat those that are vulnerable in society. Challenge prejudice at all times. Every time you see it, it's hard. No one likes to argue with their man, but challenge it anyway. And challenge it within yourself.  And why did you do that? Move around. And if you want to, you can sign our letter. We've got one. We'll keep sending it, but I think it's the other things that matter more. Thanks to you. To Peter. Thank you. I think Leanna has talked a lot about the whole range of things and actions, and it really is a kind of ecosystem that makes these things work from the people lying on the street in London and stopping the vans going out to the lawyers, doing pro bono work and everyone else. I think it's really important to say something I think we were just mentioning earlier is the kind of wider environment there. There are things as Leanna mentioned about the political environment and how our voting and also our discussion can change that, can kind of shift the overton window really of what's acceptable and what's not acceptable. At times, I think in this country, it seems like things have shifted so far to a place, you know, to a place where cruelty and exclusion seems almost more okay. And maybe bringing things, bringing discussions up. We talked earlier about histories of colonialism and their issues of climate colonialism, which really are bringing up a lot more displacement and migration. And unfortunately, I think we'll see a lot more of that in the future. So I think bringing those up to discussion and making sure that everything is up for critique is also another way of contributing, I guess. I mean, it's great to know that nobody has been forcefully relocated until now. And to an extent, we might say it's a small success of various groups that have been putting up some sort of resistance to this. And also it's quite positive to see when you say that as NHS workers, you are actually or as medical students and workers in different in the medical sector. End of the day, you're also workers and this sort of interlinkages of solidarity. It's not like you're taking over the cause of someone else, but providing that solidarity. And how important is actually this necessity to work across various groups? I mean, how do you think? I mean, more importantly, like when you reach out to 400 doctors or so on, like how do you get this through to fellow doctors? Sometimes it also might look like, you know, our medical doctors and so on, very apolitical. But on the other side, we see that both, there's a huge push on decolonizing health and medical care and recognizing the fact that race and xenophobia and these all are systemic issues that we need to deal with as medical professionals. So how should, you know, what is the kind of discussions or debates or activities that happen among fellow medical doctors and so on? I mean, jointly collecting these 400, but also generally also, how does this happen? I would say that in my experience, in my experiences, both in medicine and public health and in research and just in the wider world, there's such a variety of people and there are such a variety of ways to get through to people. I think going full on climate colonialism with everyone isn't going to get through. So there are people for which just discussing about the humanity and those elements and the fact that essentially we all could be in that position and it could be all our children might make more headway. There are people for whom legal discussions will make more sense and we'll get further. So human rights discourse in general? Absolutely and then I think that there is definitely a space for interrogating where this all came from and to think a bit more about our histories and how we're implicated in this country, but possibly not for everyone and not for everyone at this moment, but the world's a big place with a lot of people in it. Thanks. I think it's all about meeting people and getting to know people.  Once you get to know somebody and hear a story and see what they're like, you realise there's no malice here, there's only potential and there's no point in squashing that. Thanks a lot, I think in the people's health moment we often keep saying that the struggle for health is the struggle for a more caring world and I hope that on this note really all the best for your future struggles and we hope that struggles like these or initiatives like these will not be necessary. I don't mean, we have a systemic answer to some of these right from the root causes for forced migration to the necessity that governments actually welcome asylum seekers and do not act in the way that they're doing right and I hope that we go towards a world without racism and xenophobia where these also take the root and all the best for your future struggles and hope that you keep organising both medical students, medical doctors and of course we also I think as doctors there is a certain hierarchy but the need to have a larger discourse, nurses and the sanitary staff and everyone together and I think this is a definitely a step in the right direction. Congratulations on that and thank you so much for joining the People's Health Dispatch. Thank you so much for having us. Thank you.


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