The following is a presentation of TFNN the Tiger Technician Hour with your host Basil Chapman call now toll-free at 1-877-927-6648. This is the Tiger Technicians Hour and it's very interesting to see that the Dow is ready to 100 points off the Nike's earnings outlook but I did have a Chapman Wave Tringage reading from Tuesday that said the high readings should see some kind of a rebound in the E-minis and that's what we got for Thursday and then Thursday at a very low Chapman Wave Tringage reading which suggested that even if the the Dow futures were up pre-market they're actually down the Dow cash itself should go negative before the Tempser rally which is exactly what happened. Now the new part of the day is beginning this is from about 10.20 this morning till about today because it's a day before a long week and I'd say all the way to about 12.40 and then there's a whole new section that comes in going into the 2.50 about 10.03 in the afternoon Eastern time to the close. So we're watching this very close and there are a couple of things that I want to go through right now but first let me just do this thousand ninety three thirty seven thousand four ninety seven hasn't yet taken out the high of Wednesday Thursday Friday Wednesday at thirty seven thousand six forty one the S&P same thing the S&P is up strongly it's up 20 at forty seven sixty seven hasn't taken out the high I forgot I think I might have typed it in then I erased it so the high was four seven seven eight oh one and just type that in four seven seven eight what did I say 0.1 I think I said that okay four seven seven eight four four seven oh yeah yeah it's one of those days I've just been charting away since earlier soon before six o'clock four seven seven eight point oh one four seven seven eight that's all I needed all right there we go and all right so that's a very nice rebound from that very ugly Wednesday and today's high so far is four seven seven two point nine four system in my head just two seconds it could do that hasn't done it yet I'm going to talk about this because the weekly charts going to close four o'clock today not too much can happen famous last words between how and four o'clock with a single leg eight to the upside and I have to call today and everything this is and I did this in my webinar and that webinar is up it's archived so if you thinking of buying my service the opening call my daily newsletter you'll get this that archive it's actually an archive that I told everyone I'm going to do it almost in two parts I'm doing the one part on Wednesday and Saturday and usually the weekend I do about an hour long video overview where we are what we're looking at I talk about stocks stocks we might not even buy but because I do the analysis some subscribers say hey that's what I'm looking for I like it and I'll do my own analysis and that gives me some impetus to either buy it or not buy it whatever it is so within that context is a very fascinating because we were looking at weekly charts to tell us and it's because it's not a hundred percent certain whether this is an extension of the previous buy mode and it's just an aberrational very strong leg to the upside which will give back a big chunk so for all I can say is the stochastic in the weekly chart of the S&P is at 90 this is technical Friday so I'm getting very technical here is at 98.36% and flat as long as it holds there and you can see that when the stochastic goes above 80% like it did back in April it can stay there all the way until it goes negative which was right here in August so here we are even higher the unbalanced volume saying oh man you are so overlating whatever you're so overboard you have to have a pullback but all that happens with the on balance volume is that when it pulls back it doesn't give you a degree for instance here is the SMH is this the SMH and I had that really great signal from 175.86 and that was on the December the 18th no 15th 15th but it coincided exactly right there exactly with an unbalanced volume overbought level so we were very fortunate a couple of days later we bought the SOXS three times short and it was a huge the same day there was a huge turn down and that was a clue that the others were making new highs and the estimators were stalling and we took our profits now we're out and we're waiting to see what happens next but you can see what happened with the unbalanced volume it did turn down then it retested and then it turned down again and now it's back up so that's what happens it's it's the way you use these technical indicators so I in my in my in my webinar I discussed them I'm gonna go through that again in a moment so the estimators are up 70 cents at 174.04 very nice now this looks to me more like a peak leg beam maybe a peak beef there's no new recovery high today in the weekly chart and that says let's just say that this is now a B that means all of next week they can go to a higher high above 175.86 is the estimators the semiconductor index very important because that to me is one of the benchmarks a focal point for general market trends now what we're looking at is so that will take us to leg C then you have to wait the full next week to see if there's a lower high to make a peak C then the following week you can get to leg D and then the following week takes you to almost the end of January would be a D and that's where you gotta be careful wait a minute this is leg C in the monthly chart that means that if all of January you've got to take out whatever the high is in December by one penny and that extends leg C it means you can't make a peak C till the following month okay that's February that means you can't make a leg D until the following month that's March that means you can't make a peak D until May so all of this says to me this is a very positive time it has no it has no insinuation of how deep any pullbacks could be that is something else you have to work on so let me just finish this up here because it's very important that I go through all the different indices look at the QQQ trading up 1.94 at 4 9.69 4 1097 was the high of three days ago if it breaks that then there's an alternate count that actually becomes a G slash B that says you've broken out for H 71 was the all-time high we're in your high territory that's only a leg B that means you can't get a peak D until well into the second quarter of 2024 so as I say none of this tells you how deep correction you could have I've got other technical indicators that do that but not the ones I'm talking about right now you're looking at the IWM and this is very exciting because now we've got the the Russell 2000s 2000 small caps remember IWB is the Russell 1000 and a big D pulls back hasn't taken out the higher three days ago four days ago is a 262.3 up a dollar 23 this is already a leg D in the monthly charge isn't that interesting and it's underneath the peak B the all-time high that was made 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from peak C1 C2 double top and 10-minute charge was a peak I think it was a peak D in the 5-minute charge gave really nice signals well that big cascade had a high of 49 4798 on the candle that I picked I chose and one of the reasons is when you see sell-offs in the e-mini what's interesting is the big sell-offs have candles that are big red and they follow one another one two three they keep going down and then when they stole they stole for maybe two or two a steam maximum 10-minute bars and then if they take out that left side low they go you like a dreaded H it goes even lower so I chose this particular level and I said this is not exactly in the rectangle formation which was down to the low right there says a little lopsided but that's not the point the point is I have to choose and we were at time in the morning we were right here we were chopping around here with a little double top and I said I'm making this 47 98 level the dash midpoint and really it's a midpoint to the level that really was the basic level over this it looks almost that's much better looking was lopsided so look what happened they try to get there try to get there eight o'clock nine o'clock ten o'clock fail-fail pull back to the 47 under 47 60 and then we would peak ABC where did D go right at four o'clock triple a double top right there at 47 yeah 47 98 then it pulled back to the 200 period okay important the 200 period you just have to put it there you don't have to deal with it till it gets comes into focus the closer it gets into focus pin it acts like a magnet who grabs the price then the price is to force itself away either up or down from that level and it can take a while when it did it made a beautiful cup formation and then as the news came out at 8th it is the ball that said oh is that good is that bad turned out to be good and it popped up and it went where to it went to the upper part of this is the double top area at 1110 on Wednesday which had a higher 48 30 and the height today so far is 48 21 trying to get there and now it's digesting the gains but what I said in the den before we got there I said is this 48 47 89 did I say yeah 47 89 level gonna be a support level it's been a repellent but will it become a magnet and then a support level so far that's the support level and going into Sunday Sunday night Monday in the I think internationally most markets are closed usually what happens is on the holiday like a July 4th other countries open and the E mini is training sometimes a fun day just to relax and do some training low volume and but here we are so that 4800 to 47 98 level that magnet that support level will it become a magnet over the weekend going into Tuesday or gonna push further away from it for the rest of the day so that's the question and we will go away from it if after 130 I say cottage to 2 if the many which is up 19 it goes to about up 25 instead of pulling back and coming back down to a like a plus 8 so that's really what you're looking for yeah like pretty much like trading today now let's go so did that wrong and here we go back to our story and this is what I want you to do today a bunch of things we're looking at here we go so we've got the IWB much stronger all-time highs a few days ago not all-time highs under the all-time high but in a yearly high and not only that the I call this to 266.89 to 267.30 this is a typical Chapman wave 2 bar reversal there's a Chapman Roman candle right there and we went down down down it took three days because it's a monthly chart but each one of those days made a lower low than the original low of the wick and that was important and then it plummeted and that's a little bit like the S&P did back in October of 2007 so that's it pull back pull back and it goes for the 267 level 267.30 I might as well type that in since I'm going to be talking about it often to 267.13 okay that was the high January I believe of 2022 plummets down to the 190s comes right back now this is important remember this is exactly the example that I said it was a possibility with the S&P it failed at a peak B especially monthly charts hardly ever do you get a monthly chart that's going to fail at a peak B and not make a new high to leg C and then a D unless and this is rare underneath it you have a different count because it starts a brand new buy signal that gets upgraded to a buy mode look at this stochastic it went over 80% right now it's under it's at 78 but if you get a peak D underneath that previous peak B all-time high it negates this B that becomes your new benchmark so this is really important right now because if by if by one penny it breaks above 267.13 in our back of the mind you can say oh then how you finally got your leg C but in reality it's a leg D this is your new if it takes out that 267.13 that's your new benchmark because it's in a new buy mode right it's way ahead of some of the others look at the IWM IWM hasn't even taken out it's just testing the highs for the last year and a half right so this is the start that's what I was saying that's what the whole webinar was about I'll be going to see a pullback and in that pullback the IWM actually holds really well but the big caps like the Microsoft's etc they come back quite sharply I want to see in this pull back that's coming up whenever it is in the next couple of weeks I want to see the financials holding as well as the iShares if they both gonna hold up well that just gives us a lead to say when the next big buy signal comes in for the for the first within the first three months of 2024 this should be the participants that actually begin to lead while the big caps and the former big leaders do rally they don't fail but they don't rally at the same degree a same percentage all right I want to get that out the way I want to finish up gold saying gold is up sharply of 24 pullback a little bit from the entry day high of 2083 still fabulous 2075 it's trying to fill if we can get into see 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hit watch Tiger TV that's TFNN.com then hit watch Tiger TV so technical Friday so let's just do this a question came in another it's more statement than a question using the Chapman methodology I get a peak G where you get a peak E in the daily chart I understand that one of the reasons is you went to this peak D right here in October the pullback with the MACD with the stochastic said that in fact should be the starting point and then it goes to peak A peak B peak C now look at the distance in time which you have a little gray A there and then finally you make that what I call a leg B you call that the D and if you call that a D then it's an instant restart so you can go plus sign plus sign plus sign above plus sign below just to point it out or make a circle and then it goes E F and G so either way you get to the same thing that I got to where there are two doji candles and one is the silent doji candle right here the day off the high that was made in the hundred twenty three thirties and then you had the news related cascade so fortunately there's and it happens very often your count coincided exactly with what I had and the only reason why I chose to make that a peak F with a doji candle and a pullback even though the technology I'm going to do so I've done a lot of work on this over the years there are so many times usually this is not two peaks or in this case three peaks to the upside so that is that's E F but you would get it as a C right then that was a high the doji high right there over the years I found that if I get a low and this the and the next low after that is higher up and the technicals are strong that says that this actually is the starting point for what I did is I used the 200 period moving average as your magnet line and you can see how long it held there to say I was very comfortable saying that that's a peak F an extension because the nine-period moving average didn't close negatively and then I said okay now I can sort of brand you my mode but there's nothing wrong with account that you had and you still got to a top so that's your alternative that's where I put the alternative count I decided this particular case I wasn't going to could have been wrong but I was just basing it on the Georgia period moving average doji candle at a peak F which would have been an F C right and it took too long to get to that D now yes another rule of thumb since you're doing it if you get exactly what you had your F C or even quarter to C and then it takes a long time with a cup formation and finally you get to the D which is where this B is I couldn't tell you how many times I should I don't like doing all these studies because I do it visually I've got the back of my head my back of the back of the head it seems to me to work fine but it says to me that so many times I'm not talking about once or twice I'm just talking about so many times way over 60% I'm sure it's probably more like 70 when it has that kind of a cup formation and you get to what would have been a D and then an instant restart is very often within three bars it makes that new high after that P D when you've had a long hiatus before you get there it's almost like it confirms for you that there's a buy mode coming up so remember if you get your alternate count that would have been C F sash C in my case and then finally you get to the D after a decent pullback which you haven't taken out the low and you've made a cup formation all the technicals are confirming that D so often almost immediately becomes an instant restart and you can go higher but trouble is if you've got an instant restart that you would have gone D then E sash A F sash B and a G slash C and you would have been waiting for the D and then it cascaded a lot I hope I'm clear about that just when you get one just give me a young we'll talk about it on air in real time so the other way to look at it is also so where did it gap down to Nike we're talking about Nike Inc me share this is sport and sportswear it went right to the 200 prem moving average went under it to 100 in 107 45 area now it's trading at 108.69 and you see the weekly chart all the technicals here are good but you see how close we are in the nine-period moving average and this is what you have to see when you're getting a nine-period moving average let me show you as Nike there we are that's my daily chart the thick gray line is the price of whatever we're following in this case Nike look all the technicals are still fantastic it was incredible dive from the hundred and twenty what was it three or something yeah 123 30 area today's low is hundred and seven and yet it still hasn't gone pink that's the power of this nine-period moving average but that's also the problem because and I said I was telling a couple of people who asked me about that you can't just use this one indicator because it's in most of the time the 914 is a lagging is by its very nature supposed to be a lagging indicator very seldom when you get the exact high at the turning point of the exact low doesn't happen within a bar to maybe it can happen but on the day no the on balance volume does however look at this I would say that it's still going to go pink even if there's a bounce but this is different to you remember the the whole thing we spent time on but talking about my Chapman volume climax price climax and look at this look at the volume here the volume so far today that isn't even begun we're just over an hour into the session and you've already got 19 million and you had 16 million yesterday you had nine so it's going to be way over the 16 million because the days barely begun so what I'd be looking at is how does it respond over remember David you spoke about a three-day rule I have two or three rules that apply to huge gaps on the downside so the gap that has you're falling falling falling and then there's a gap down and it's ugly and then there's another gap and then there's bad news that comes out and everybody says I'm done with the stock and they throw every share that they've had out that's your volume climax when it's just a single day like this anything can happen now the rule of thumb will be for me doesn't matter where it closes that I'm just saying to you if by Tuesday Wednesday it can close above today's high of 110.80 I would say then it could fool some of the gap but it's going to the 200-period moving averages your magnet line it's going to keep coming back there for a while but if in fact it closes towards the low of the day then watch the low whatever the low is today so far it's a hundred and seven forty five if it takes it out and on Tuesday Wednesday it makes lower lows the resistance now of a hundred nine thirteen is that correct let me just double check of a hundred nine point twenty-two the 200-period moving average is powerful so I would I'd rather wait a little bit before I'm thinking of calls or puts anything at this particular point point why because 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Let me just say this is where I would say to you in the chain weight methodology this is where it's really important to use certain indicators look the data chart data the one minute chart I always think of this as daily weekly monthly but it's one five and ten minute charts of the many and I always use this as kind of a benchmark of the technique in real time just this is what we're looking at so you can see it's been stuck in a trading band between about 4820 and 4048 14 so stuck in the one minute chart but that applies to the five minute chart and look the Mac these turn down stochastics now under 80% the on balance volume student down the little relative stress sign there is under it but that nine period moving averages that this is the indicator I call it the indicator of last resort is holding so well that it's how holding the price and look at the 10 minute chart is even stronger and the Mac D hasn't turned negative so that's how you can use different tools at different stages that's why I say I don't rely on one I do rely on one for immediate turns and that's how you use the on balance volume which I discussed in my webinar probably tomorrow in my overview I'll have to discuss it because it's going to become really important over the next few weeks in January so there is still a residual strength and that's kind of demonstrated by a couple of stocks and I'll just show you here right here with looking at look at Apple Apple is this gone sideways it's showing internal strength that it hasn't broken down but and I have a big question about this B I don't know what else I can call it but that's what it is right now I can't even and I had to give it an up arrow but that up arrow is really in fact I feel very strongly that I should take that away and put it in a plus sign because Apple's really struggling is holding but it's struggling and one of the reasons I say that is if there is a chapter we unconventional flat based restart and everything about it says that it keeps coming to the 187 level keeps no matter how high it goes it keeps pulling back it says that we can have flurries to the upside and at some point it's going to give way and this particular low right here is going to be tested right here that's the low of the 4th of December of 187 45 there it is seven points higher and it looks like what are you talking about seven points why would it suddenly dry I don't know I'm just saying but it's broken out to an all time high leg B in the monthly charge leg B in the in the weekly charge could be an alternate account I see no reason right now to anything else with 94% to casting and I'm not going to take the time now I will do some in my webinar in my video tomorrow I did discuss it before but I'll do so in my video overview tomorrow for subscribers discussing what are the what are the indicators that I'll be looking at over the next week or two to say that's it we've made some kind of a top the daily charts are going to really pull back sharply it'll impact the weekly charts some but then the weekly charts should regain their strength and push higher what would what would say that those weekly charts are starting to fail and I'll send you right now make it as simple as possible when the statistics over 80% that's what you want to see that's fantastic that's great that supports your bullish bias if that's what you've got not bearish bullish but when it starts to slip under 80% you've got to be careful look what happened here with that high from the August high at 198.2 three in apple it pulled back pretty sharply from the just under 200 to the 160s now it's come back and the stochastic is is as strong as it was and flat and that's important if it starts to go under 80% to the 78% area watch out that'll drag the price down so that's something to look at okay now I need to get to I had a question again follow through on your chapter we've Roman candle which I'd never heard of now you've introduced us to it for for about a year or so and I've been following it it's very interesting so Tom this is what I'm looking at look in UEC this is uranium core Iranian energy corporation I'd mentioned these and I'm going to expand this right now it's technical Friday so I'm getting a little technical here the reason why I was saying that I think uranium is on a much bigger move to the upside rather than just a short-term rally is because the strength of the monthly and weekly 9-period ruling averages magnate stochastic etc is so powerful that the bias should be and look we've got a chapter we've Roman candle from last week in the weekly chart so if we close anytime in the next it has to be soon so it has to be this week almost done so it's not going to do it today probably but by next week if there's a close above 6.86 on any day that's a big thing if there's a close at the end of the week that's really a big thing if there is a close back it doesn't have to be a close if there's a price pullback below 6.17 in the weekly chart that'll be in the any day it'll affect the weekly chart that's a negative thing but all of that short term now look at this he has your huge chapter we've Roman candle the day after the 6.86 it goes to 6.85 on the 13th of December huge and then the rule of thumb is if it can go halfway into the week for a shorter time period I said 90 minutes below 6.20 I think I said now 6.80 I can't remember must have been 6.16 or so and holes for 90 minutes watch out because a retest the bottom what it is it just briefly went under it opened higher plummeted to down this was a news this is earnings related and it then went right back to the top part of the candle another Roman candle but it's a green one same thing applies if in this case I think I said 6.28 no I said 6.26 so 6.26 look it hasn't done that but then it did that a few days ago but look what happened I've got a two day rule for this so it wasn't a two day rule now it has something else and says now it could go sideways in a rectangle formation if it takes and closes above that 6.86 level on a daily basis that is just showing tremendous strength yes sorry I should have mentioned we are long we are long from right over there 3.46 area I believe right there so and we've taken a little bit so now the big thing is why didn't I add to the position which I wanted to do over here because it was so close to to if it took out this low then I'm back where I'm starting even though it's past a two day rule so I just I needed now that yesterday's candle was great today was the day I should have said hey this is acting so well let's add a little bit we've got taken tads off and tomorrow in my webinar I'll talk about tads always I take a tad off it means if you've got a hundred of whatever it is a tad is like eight or ten because at some point we'll take two or three so now you've still got 70 percent of the trade you want to call position and then we deal with that and then I like to add back could I look at crisp so this is crisper in the whole biotech area CRSP I was don't forget I want to look at coin so coin is on my list for today yes so crisp yeah so this is of course I had a little notated but it asked my notation just because of the way when it shuts down without suddenly without actually a special save doesn't automatically say yeah I just think it's stuck it's turning at 63.40 I just say it's probably chapter between sixty six chapter between sixty seven and fifty eightish if it breaks eighty fifty eight on the downside of the test of children's period moving average right now I don't see tfnn has just launched their new trading room the tiger zen hosted at discord tfnn has been educating traders for more than 20 years with live programming hosted by a variety of professional traders during market hours and now they are expanding their reach with the tiger's den available to all tigers and tiger's for just one dollar for the year there's no catch or added costs when you join our community 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I'm so excited to be sitting here with Jessica who's one of our top female founders in the ABC portfolio.  And so I thought we'd kick off by talking a little bit about what that problem is and how Ubiome is solving it. Absolutely. Yeah. I'm really excited to be here too. I'm really grateful to the team at Slush and everyone here who's listening to the talks. I've heard some great talks here too. So what we do at Ubiome is we sequence the human microbiome, which are the trillions of bacteria and other organisms that live on and in our bodies. And you might think, well, why do we care about bacteria than our bodies? And isn't that kind of gross? And why would we care about that?  Every chronic illness is related to the microbiome. So everything from cancer and diabetes to more minor things like acne or dandruff. And also acute illnesses like those commonly studied infectious disease are also part of the microbiome. So what we do at Ubiome is to gather really large data set. We have the largest data set in the world of microbiomes. We do this in collaboration with over 200 researchers around the world at Harvard and Stanford and Oxford and all sorts of places. And we take all this data and we use it to make clinical tests, drug targets, and a lot of other things that can help us take advantage of this new emerging science of the microbiome. What's really exciting about this is that the science isn't very old. It's only about, you know, the word microbiome was coined maybe 15 years ago. The first studies of the microbiome were done maybe 10 years ago. So we're really at the forefront of commercializing this new technology and making it available to everyone. Can you tell us a little bit more about how big that data set is and how big the next largest data set is just to give the audience and everyone a picture of that? Yeah, so we have almost a quarter of a million microbiomes. If you think about the human genome, some of the largest data sets of the human genome are only about a million. And the human genome is about 20 years ahead of where the microbiome is. Some of the other data sets, they're in the several thousand. So at least 10 X greater, sorry, at least 20 X greater than the other data sets that are out there. And what this data allows us to do is apply some really sophisticated technology. You know, we have six issued patents, over 100 applied for patents. And we just don't love really interesting things with this data. We're using machine learning and artificial intelligence and some algorithms that we've developed to be able to better understand what these bugs are doing in us and how they can affect our health. That's a lot of poop. That's a lot of poop, yeah. So part of this gig as CEO of Ubiom is that I get to make a lot of poop jokes and we have a lot of fun around the office talking about poop. But, you know, all joking aside, it's really funny how we think of poop as sort of this waste product, which it is obviously, but it's also this goldmine of information that can help us improve our health. That must have been really challenging. And, you know, I was in obviously some of those pitch meetings talking to investors about this product and how it works. Yeah, right, to all the entrepreneurs out there, you think you have some tough pitches? You walk into a boardroom with, you know, 20 people in it, all very proper, all in suits. And then you start talking about poop with them. And it's, you know, it's an experience. But I think what investors see that's valuable is that this is a really important understudied area and that we were the very first company in the space. And what we can do is make some things that are really valuable and important, not only from a business perspective, but also from a scientific and societal perspective as well. So just pulling back to the launch of Ubiom, you launched this business off of a crowdfunding campaign. And there was, I think what's important, and I think you say a lot, is citizen science in Ubiom. And talk about how that crowdfunding campaign and citizen science tie in to this mission and how you sort of push Ubiom forward. That's such a good question. So for all those out there who are doing crowdfunding campaigns, I feel you. Crowdfunding is like the bungee jumping of entrepreneurship. You just all of a sudden you have a page and then you have customers and they all want things from you and they all think of questions and answers that you never would have, waste-user product, you never would have thought of yourself. So I actually really recommend it as a way of starting a company because it's a great way to see that if there is a market for what you're doing to kind of understand your customers and do customer development kind of on the lead startup model really quickly. We started that way because we weren't sure. I mean, at that point there was no such thing as commercialization of the microbiome. We were the very first company. So we just had no idea if anyone would want this or would care about this. So the NIH in the US, the National Institutes of Health, which is the big government scientific funding body in the US for health, had done this project, this $173 million project over five years. They looked at the microbiome. This was supposed to be the groundbreaking study kind of equivalent to the Human Genome Project and they spent all this money and they studied 242 people. And my background, I got my PhD at Oxford in data analysis, sort of computer science, focused on large social science data sets. And my thought was, well, what? I mean, how can you look at 242 people? What if you had 2,500 people? What if you had 250,000? What if you had 2 million? What if you had 250 million? What would you be able to do and what would you be able to learn? So we started the crowdfunding campaign, my co-founder and I, because we thought, well, let's see what happens if we gather, let's see if we can gather that kind of data set and if we can, let's see what we can do with it. So it's still online. If anyone wants to look at it, it's a little embarrassing now. So we showed it to some of our employees the other day and they were like, you look so young. And I was like, yeah, I did. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks for that. That was amazing. So anyways, so we did this crowdfunding campaign and I really recommend it. We learned a lot from our customers. We had to grow really quickly as entrepreneurs and figure out all sorts of uses for our product, answer people's questions, customer support, pricing, all these things kind of flew at us. And it was really great. I think it was a really good experience. But it also is kind of grounded in the fundamental values of Ubiom, which are related to advancing science as quickly as possible. And the way to do that is by involving the public. So I'm surprised more companies don't do this because I think it's a really valuable way to not only find out if people want and like your product, but also really engage with the public and from a scientific and a societal sort of giving back perspective to involve the public in science. One of the things that really struck me about the way science is done, because my background's in academia, even if not in the biological field, was how long it takes for a scientific discovery that is peer-reviewed, that everyone agrees is good solid science to turn into something that people can use. And citizen science is one way of really accelerating that. So talk a little bit about the, you made this jump from, at that point when you were doing your crowdfunding campaign, you were still very much in academia. You were very much in your PhD still. I was still finishing my PhD, yeah. What is that, what's that jump from academia to being a founder like and how should other people really do that? That's a great question. So for anyone out in the audience who's a PhD, I sympathize, I've been there. I think the big difference is obviously involving speed, involving values, involving kind of engagement with the public in a way that you do as an entrepreneur, but you don't do as a, you don't, although I think you should, you don't commonly do as an academic. I think the most important thing that I learned in this transition was this kind of switch in focus from a publication and sort of resume focus that a lot of academics have where it's all about getting in the right paper, you know, getting the right paper in the right publication versus engaging with the people, with the public, with your customers, with your other stakeholders to give people something they actually want. And I think that it's beneficial to academic science in general to take a much more kind of democratized focus and try to better, try to see what you can do to make your science have an impact as quickly as possible. Susan Science is one way to do that. There are many other ways of doing that. But one way, Susan Science is one way to say, you know, let's involve the public, let's make the science go faster, and let's also, you know, make the science more useful. And you know pretty quickly if it's not applicable to people because people don't like it. If you do science, it doesn't actually help them or benefit them in some way. So how is speaking about that actionability and like creating science that does help the public in some way, can you talk a little bit about what you buy them? First, I guess, smart gut, and now newly minted. Jessica launched a new test, a women's health test that's really moving women's health forward, really exciting for all of us gals out there. What is the actionability of these tests? What does that look like? That's a really good question. So a lot of people who are familiar with this science say, oh, but the microbiome's not there yet. Wait another 10 years. Let's slow everything down and wait till we get there. But I think that in the meantime, people don't get the benefit of the science that's already been done and is already well understood. And as entrepreneurs, one of our roles is to accelerate the process of translational medicine, of moving the science from a peer review journal into something that people can use. So we did that fairly quickly. So we launched the company in 2012. We did the crowdfunding campaign at the very end of 2012. We had a product, which was a consumer health and wellness product in the market in early 2013. We still have it. It's called Explorer. It's available all around the world in order in Finland or anywhere else in Europe or anywhere else in the world for that matter. And it's to help you better understand how your microbiome affects your gut. How does the food you eat affect your microbiome? The probiotics you bought last week at the health food store? Are those actually in your gut? Are they there? But we realized that there were a lot of things that we wanted to be able to tell people, but we couldn't tell them except in a medical context because there are a lot of clinical applications of the microbiome and we wanted to be able to tell people about them and to actually make products that took advantage of that. So one thing, so we came out with our first product about a year ago. It's called SmartGut for people who have chronic gut conditions with IBD, IBS, Crohn's, leaky gut, things like that. And it's a way to distinguish between these conditions and then track them over time. And we have a new product we just came out with a couple of weeks ago. Super excited about this. So I keep getting this question, like why did you launch a product for women? And I'm like, why wouldn't you launch a product for women? Because we're not human beings. Are we not human beings? I don't know. Do we need healthcare? Yes. So the product is called Smart Chain. It's a women's health test. It screens for HPV, which is associated with cervical cancer, sexually transmitted diseases and vaginal flora, and does this all with a swab you can do at home. So it's way more convenient. It's ordered by doctors, so it's a clinical test, but it's really something a woman can use at home. It's, we get emails all the time from people saying, you know, this was embarrassing, but I can do it by myself. You know, I didn't want to have to go back to my doctor for yet another test. I did my regular exam, but now I want to do another test. I don't want to have to go back just to do a test, so I can do this at home. So we've gotten some really fantastic feedback. And I think that these are the first in a very long line on this platform of technology that we've built, of new clinical tests that make it so where we can do a test that used to take, you know, 10 different tests. We can do it all in one. We can do a test that you had to have at the doctor's office. You can do yourself in your own home and also building this kind of, you know, internet-like, you know, user experience, right? So you have a website that's informative and engaging and, you know, we've talked a lot. Everyone, I've heard some other talks in the healthcare field here at Hitslash and other places about how healthcare's just not designed with a user experience in mind. Like how many of you go to a doctor's office and you're like, this is an amazing experience. I recommend it to everyone. It just never happens. And our goal is to give our patients and our doctors a really good user experience, like the kind you expect when you log into any other online system where it's focused around you and the goal is to give you the experience you need. So we've done that with the two clinical tests that we have now and we have a long line of other tests that we're gonna be launching. We also have some interesting drug discovery targets and other things, but the goal is that we take this data and we use it to make things that are useful to people based, rounded very strongly in the scientific literature. Our tests have, you know, we have like 200 references on our smart get tests that really kind of clearly show, we show our work in terms of the science, but we try to bring it to people as soon as possible. Yeah. So one of the things that we're really excited about and talk about often at ABC is our bio IT thesis, kind of the convergence between biology and computer science.  And I think it's true in you specifically because your background is really in math and your PhD, you know, is more on that side than it is on, you know, the sort of biology side. And so talk about sort of the importance of, you know, you started to talk about it earlier, but dig in to the importance of data and computation and AI in you biome and more broadly in science. Yeah, so that's a really good point. So yeah, when we heard your thesis, we thought, well, that's great, because that's our thesis too, you know, that's exactly it. Is this convergence that's happening? One of our other investors put this really well where he said that things that used to be impossible are now cheap, right? Like it's DNA sequencing, which used to be this, you know, amazing dream that someday we might have this and people would do their whole PhD thesis like 20, 30 years ago, trying to sequence one gene. And now, you know, it's way less expensive to do and really kind of possible to not only, you know, not only to make it cheap, but to make things that were impossible, like the bacteria that we just didn't know lived on our bodies, we can now analyze and for like $89, you can order and explore a kid and learn about them. So there's this tremendous convergence of these two fields happening because biology, as soon as you convert the sort of the atoms of biology into the bits of data, then you can take all the computer science skills that a computer scientist had and many people here have and use those same skills from whatever field on this biological data. So in terms of what we do with that, you know, we're using that to make these specific products that, you know, we find beneficial and have this clinical utility, but there are a lot of other applications that are possible for this. And I hope other people explore them because there's this tremendous ability to take technology that could be used to make ads serve better or, you know, things like that, that could instead be used to really improve human health and human life and really have an impact on the world. And that's why I got involved in this. You know, my background was not in biology, but I realized the same skills that I had could be applied in a field where I just, I go to work every day and I think like, wow, we're actually taking this science that people, first of all, it was like a new science that people just didn't even know about until recently and turning it into something real that people can use. Yeah, which is totally amazing. I mean, you could have really focused on any, with your background, you could have focused on any area of, you know, of science in general or any, you know, you could have focused on social media and those big datasets and really you chose this because it's, you know, you were really the pioneers in this industry, which I think is really exciting. Yeah, I'm excited about it too.  They're really impactful things that you can do. Yeah, absolutely. So what do you feel like as an entrepreneur, you know, you and I met through another amazing entrepreneur, Elad Gil, the founder of Colour Genomics and that's how we came to be introduced. I think great entrepreneurs and great scientists, no other great entrepreneurs and scientists. What do you feel like is really exciting right now out, you know, in the world beyond Ubiome that you're seeing sort of on the ground? That's such a good question. So I think there's sort of two, I mean, we're kind of at the convergence of two trends that Ubiome and I see other ways that those two trends can be applied. One of them is around DNA sequencing. Like I was saying, you know, you have this, you're turning all this information that was not previously accessible at all, whether it's the microbiome, the genome, the transcriptome, the exome, all the, all mix and also other, even just health IT data, even just data that's locked in electronic medical records and isn't well analyzed or pharmacy data or health insurance data, all those things are kind of available to now be analyzed in new ways. So there's kind of this sequencing leads to data and then other data leads to data and both those things, you know, you can apply these new computational techniques and then I'd say the other thing is democratization of healthcare.   So I think that this democratization of healthcare is the most massive shift in healthcare and I think it's a product of having more information so it's not going anywhere and there are a lot of new ways to relate to the customer who is now the patient rather than the doctor necessarily but also do that in the context of the regulatory frameworks that you need to work within the relationship with the doctor. So there are a lot of new things that are done in that space and I'm really excited about that. I think there'll be better outcomes for patients when we're treated like people rather than like, you know, just kind of units within the healthcare system. Yeah, a set of numbers essentially. Yeah, exactly, set of numbers, right? You wanna be, you know, we're active agents in our own health and I think that's really gonna lead to some great transformations in the healthcare system and better health outcomes, people will just be healthier.  I'm so annoying. I mean, actually, I'm not annoying because I very carefully choose doctors who like it and who are like partners rather than doctors who are like, grar, you shouldn't know anything, don't learn about your body, stay ignorant. I'm the same, I get to my doctor and I have like a list of things that I feel like are going on. I'm like, this is what I think in the matter. Yeah, and you want a doctor and you know, you also want a lab testing company or whatever, whoever else is involved, a health insurer, a microbiome testing company, for example.  So I think that the healthcare companies of the future will be partners rather than, you know, rather than kind of agents that just connect people together without keeping the agency of the people in mind. Yeah, so something I think that's fun that goes on inside of your office is people, you know, kind of do informal testing on their own microbiomes and you know, I even sometimes partake in this kind of testing. Like, I did 10 days of straight soylent and then tested my microbiome, which was a really interesting result. What are some of the weirdest things you guys have done? Yeah, we've done some interesting things. So we had one very dedicated early employee who went on a ketogenic diet. She ate nothing but butter for 10 days. I don't advise this for people, but this was- Don't try this at home. Don't try this at home. But it was really interesting because we could see the shifts in her microbiome fairly rapidly.  It takes about two weeks or something that's more subtle, but if you make a rapid change, like you take antibiotics or you switch your diuretically to, you know, a totally different nutritional source, you'll have this change in your microbiome. And she did, she saw that. It was really interesting. After a few days, her microbiome shifted from carbohydrate-digesting bacteria to fat-digesting bacteria. And one of the things we have in our product is analysis the functions in the microbiome so we can say not only do you have this bug, but this bug also has these genes for this specific type of metabolism, let's say for fat metabolism, and you can see the shift. So it's really fascinating on, you know, self-experiment for like health hacker types to do it. But it's also useful in a medical context to say, wow, that's really interesting. You know, your microbiome is more correlated, for example, with pre-diabetes and obesity because of the type of bacteria that you have in your gut and what functions those genes have. Wow, that's butter for how many days? Butter, it was 10 days of butter. I felt really bad for her, but she was very dedicated. Yeah, the meat. And I'm very impressed with her in a lot of ways, not just in that way. That's so funny. So just in general, I think there's, you know, I'm often getting the question as a, you know, kind of founder shifting into investing and you get this question, you know, as an academic shifting into being a founder. But as both women, I think we often both get the question around what is it like to be a female kind of in our field where, you know, they're super male dominated and, you know, your pitching is mostly, except for, with the exception of me and maybe a few others, all male investors. Very true. And look, we're almost out of time. No, just kidding. What's that like? Give us a point on that. I think that there's a, I mean, that's a much longer conversation, I would say, but I say that there's a, there are some advantages to being a female founder and there's some disadvantages, but I think the, I think the most important thing is to, is to lead with being a founder, right? Like if you have, you know, the strength of your idea and you have the work that you've done, like don't discount that as a female and try not to be intimidated by some of the environments that you're put in, but that's a much longer discussion and we will have to discuss it slash another time. And we're doing Q and A in the, Yeah, we're doing Q and A. So if anyone's curious about that, I'm happy to, happy to answer. Absolutely. Thank you so much. Thanks, Jessica. Thank you so much guys for listening. Thank you everyone at Flesh.


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Hello everybody Andrea Trouska here with dental tutoring. So this is actually a question that I had from a fellow YouTuber who was watching my videos a week ago. So the question was how do you get started if you need to do an internship at an office? So for a lot of schools out there for either dental hygiene or dental assisting part of the program is before you're finished you you actually have to shadow either a dental hygienist or a dental assistant depending on the program that you are in for a certain number of hours and this may be hard for you if you just don't have the connections right. I'm trying to think when I was a dental assistant I did have to shadow somebody but I just simply asked my office where I've been I've been going to as a kid. I remember having a cleaning and I'm surprised that I still remember this and I just said oh you know what like I'm in assisting school I need to shadow an office. Could I possibly talk to the dentist and just see if I could shadow you for like a couple weeks or something. For assisting I believe I actually had to work it like I had to shadow my externship for about three weeks so I was there every single day like eight hours a day because I needed a lot of hours so but I learned a lot. I watched I think the first day or two but then they had me do little things so like I would help out in the lab I would help them clean up a room help up to set up the room I remembered actually assisting the dentist a couple times so it is possible and you do learn a lot. For hygiene I don't believe I had to shadow an office actually but I know that a lot of the schools these days you do have to so it's pretty much the same thing just if you're able to ask the the office where you go for your cleanings I think that that's the easiest but if you're not able to because you're either out of town or you just simply don't feel comfortable asking then you you know what I would do I would join a group on Facebook so say for dental hygienists there's the Canadian dental hygiene network or you know depending on where you live just I would join a group or a page on Facebook and just ask say hey you guys I'm a student I'll be done in a month are there any offices out there in this location that would like to have me just simply shadow them now that should work if that doesn't work then I would just honestly go up to offices and say hey I need to shadow an office I'm happy to help who can I speak to you know I would love to help out I need a certain number of hours it's it's it's kind of like I'm working for free so I'm happy to help you know but I know that that's not not always easy but yeah you guys so I kind of hope that helps I know I don't know because I never really had to do that but I've just always had kind of a connection silly as that sounds so it's hard for me to think if you don't have connections but I do feel if you join either a Facebook page or a Facebook group that should help the second step if that doesn't help is to just simply ask offices just walk in and say hey I'm looking for an office your school though should be able to help too like I do know a lot of schools where they would call the offices for you because they're a school so they kind of know the the office is to call so ask your school for help too and then hopefully they'll be able to help you so yeah you guys I hope that helps I'm darn I can't remember the name of the lovely lady who asked me to do the video but I'm sure you will see this so please just let me know but I believe I did comment on your comment on YouTube anyway so but I hope that this helps a little bit more and if anybody else has any questions just let me know