Good morning everyone morning Morning, you hear a lashes voice, but you don't see his lovely face. He was here. He I saw him He does exist. It's not just a man behind the curtain, but well, he is the man behind the curtain in a way But his video camera just died or while it lost its connection just before it went live So I can attest he's here and in person, but you can only share a screen. Oh, there he is. He's back He's back. Maybe I just clicked Yeah Anyways, welcome back a lash And good morning Sandy and John and Karen and Other people who will show up in the chat. Hopefully shortly and hello to everyone who's watching online or Watching after the fact watching this recording. So Welcome to another episode of ask a lash anything about wiki tree plus So for those who are here and live Please ask your questions in the chat. We were able to get through questions last time Oh, Sandy's got a question already. That's excellent about cemetery reports. Okay, we will get to that for sure And We did have some questions that were in the gg g post. So that's good to know good morning bill. How are you? And There's D. There we are. We're all we're all doing fine There is a well, it looks like it might have died down a bit. There was a wicked thunderstorm all this morning and So I warned a lash that I might lose power and connectivity at some point But hopefully not it looks like it's died down a little bit. So that's good How's the weather there in Slovenia a lash sunny but cold Sunny but cold I see good and what about people in the streams? What's your weather? Well greetings from Texas? Well, I'm betting it's warmer in Texas than it is here morning Stewart So What I thought we would start off Kathy never asked a question about can you please make a dummy's version of wiki tree plus video? I would like a step-by-step guide on how to use it for basic searches I've watched your videos over and over and I still don't understand how to use it. Well, Kathy Yes, first of all, there is not a video series on how to use wiki tree plus at least not yet That might be something that someone might consider doing but So what I thought was for the when we do these sessions. I thought that I would start off with some simple wiki tree plus Facts and how to use and then we'll go then we'll dive into you know later on in the livecast We'll dive into some of the questions which are often very meaty and very interesting to get into But maybe not beginner level all necessarily so the first thing you need to know is how to get to wiki tree plus And I did ask a lesh this earlier In a previous livecast, but I thought to recap it. There's there's a few different ways If you're open open browser window the easiest way is just to type in the url Which is very easy to remember now that it's been changed and it's just Plus dot wiki tree dot com And if I was smart I would have made a banner for that But I was not smart and doing it in advance, but there you go So you just type in the url plus dot wiki tree dot com and if you do that enough times your browser will remember that So as soon as you start starting typing plu It'll probably fill in the address You can also come to wiki tree plus by clicking on this image That is on all data doctor pages and the reports that are Prepared with wiki tree plus. So if you see this image wiki tree and plus sign You just click on it and you will come to wiki tree plus It is on several places, right? um Any profile if you go to the suggestions list it shows up there. Is that correct? um No on profile. Yeah, um, yes, I mean if you click suggestions, you are already on wiki tree plus. So okay We go to so if you go to suggestions, this will also bring you to wiki tree plus, right? um But this actually already Executes the search So you just get the results, but again here you have That you can click and you will come to On the starting page Okay, now once on the starting page You have on the left several options one is if you want to search by suggestions so this group has Uh Different types of search tick search or by three so you start enter wiki tree id And it searches from that person outwards then you can also search for manage for suggestions on managed profiles or If you you can also then here are a few more prepared searches to search by name or location Um, but generally Ticks search is the one to use You can also here write just a location and it will search for suggestions that are Related to Slovenia for instance And let me just back up a sec for in case there are newbies Or people who have or are new to wiki tree and the word suggestions They're not right. Sure. What we mean a suggestion in terms of wiki tree and wiki tree plus are things that When you analyze your profile if there are mistakes or if there are errors or there are possible errors that The server has has identified so example missing days. For instance father was dead before birth Yeah, that's a problem Biologically, that's an issue well Before birth now does it give you does it give you a nine month window there? Well, the problem is here since it's entered after 1880 So, uh, the father died after 1800 1888 And the child was born in 1891. So you would you could also say that Father died after 1890 because That's uh, I mean this is too loose Right. I mean too big a gap to For this But then you have also exact dates and so on. I mean these are Suggestions for things on the profile. There aren't there that can be wrong. Those are usually red Uh yellows yellow ones are warning. So uh, these are some suggestions that Maybe you missed something or you can improve something But without That should be for instance here, we have No dates on the profile. This is no longer allowed if you are entering a new profile but we still have a lot of old ones and Uh, for this person there is no date now. I did an estimate and it He was born in around 1925, but that's plus minus 10 20 years That's just an estimation for based on the relatives so But you generally know which century to look into Down to a century that would be helpful Well, it's still better to have a century. Um, I mean our Approximates date because once you create a new profile and you get Hints of possible matches you can easily dismiss those that are century away Right, right While we're talking about suggestions, uh, d had a question here. Let me just come it up Um, when I correct one and I accidentally hit the enter button twice Can I delete that accidental click? No, you cannot so you probably mean here on status Yeah, well, I wasn't quite sure what she meant by the hit the enter button twice what she's talking about or on a profile edit page Okay I So where are you hitting so I correct one? And then hit the enter button twice Um, I mean here the if you enter twice update twice, it will actually Code that error and it will tell you That you it There is a double post so it will ignore the second one But here you if you mistakenly mark false suggestions, for instance You can then actually unmark it by adding another comment Not correct it or something like that Um, and it will still show even though you Enter the false suggestion status, but I don't have editing and possible for these suggestions Now if you mean from the profile itself, uh, so Here on edit page here also a suggestion is uh marked as corrected So suggestions are listed here at the bottom And uh, you could actually here if you click fixed Uh twice or enter twice It can also mark the next one. I think it's it happens. I did it did happen to me in the past, but that just means that This suggestion was marked a different suggestion was marked as corrected But it actually wasn't so the suggestions Suggestion will be hidden For a week, but afterwards if it wasn't actually corrected it will reshow it will pop up again on the on the Uh in the suggestion lists But if you go you can you also have a possibility to go here on suggestions and This one is on wiki 3 plus and here you have all uh suggestions Listed maybe you will have to use this button show hidden suggestions So also the ones that were marked as corrected show up show up And uh, do I have okay here we have one status Um, and then if you if you're on status you get all the status is listed So you'd know which one is the last one or you can see actually what the suggestion was if you Lost if you didn't remember Okay, excellent. Yes. I think here you can get all the history for each suggestion Oh, perfect. Okay. That's good news. I think I think you've answered d's question there Yeah, so the question specifically what she was asking about was on the on the suggestion page not from the profile Um, and I had you know what I I'm seeing it sometimes But I didn't realize that the suggestions always show up at the bottom of the profile Yeah, it is. I mean if you So when you're in it, uh test comment Update so now I added a test comment and it is here So so you have here all the history and also on the other suggestions that we have below Those comments are also visible on this page, right? Yes So you actually see them then you have to figure out what they mean That's right. Sometimes they're short. Yeah logical Showing hidden suggestions. That's that's a neat way to I hadn't thought of looking there for Something but yeah, I should hit it something twice. Yes, because we have the option is correct it hide until next We check so that means that the suggestion will be hidden until tuesday when I republish the new with new data so And show hidden suggestion will still show it Yeah, no, that's perfect because then yeah, if you make a mistake you can fix that and tweak that. Yeah, good Okay So I think that's great. So so this week so let's so our intro for intro for wiki tree plus um For this week. We've we talked about suggestions. So next time we will look at the second option the text search and we'll go into We'll um, we'll dive some more into that But for now, then I can also explain this Uh additional options suggestion search So here you have you have At the top you first one is this show results in new tab So if you click this option this goes for all actions on wiki tree plus That means that after you hit find suggestion new tab opens with the results This is especially useful for phones tablets and so on Yes So then it's just you can just view the results But if you have a large enough screen you can use it without this and it will just Change the page on the right um, then Here with suggestions, sir You can also here enable show temporary hidden suggestions So if you enable this checkbox, it will already perform the search also on hidden suggestions So if you are looking for something if you want to review the hidden suggestions, for instance Uh, and if you actually turn on this one both of this on now it will just show just the suggestions that That are hidden so This was reported as false suggestions. I will occasionally use this if I'm reviewing the What people are uh marking as false suggestion Because often they just mark it because they don't exactly know exactly what they are doing They don't want to deal with it And you can here then review it again if you think that you know better Then Here is another um Option so you can search just for a specific suggestion type so you can we can I don't know let's search for mother is also a child. We don't have those in Slovenia Well, it can be if you can also use it without the text once you select Filter by the suggestion type you don't actually you can search also without the text.  What does that mean?  So right But you have to find the core of the problem right and remove one relation probably right So he may have had a child that named her after the mother right Yeah, I mean profiles it can be that the profiles were merged. Uh, and uh, it then it brought to the Conflation This the merge bad merge can be the reason or I don't know it was entered incorrectly Okay Then um another thing I wanted to show so if you search for something general, let's say England Mm-hmm Uh-huh I have to deselect this. Yeah, that's right suggestion Okay Okay, so here we have a lot of suggestions And if there is a lot of suggestions, then they are grouped so this table is not too huge And you can here you You see this text at the beginning skipped suggestion at 31 multiple duplicated lines There are 24 such suggestions And then you can click here and it will show just those 24 suggestions in a separate table Nice So these are then those suggestions so you can also If you are looking at some bigger region with a lot of suggestion you can find you on what you are seeing. I mean Here you can get some details Um, then another Thing to Now we have on text search with I also have a few magic words and some Uh, things are possible to search but on a general search. This is much more advanced as it is Um possible and suggestions here are some some basics that I initially did But afterwards I would I didn't really improve this much and it's also not really possible because I'm I mean the profiles the data is different than on general search. So for instance He and here with the general search on any search result that you get by using Whatever you want for instance profiles in That were within the last challenge you can search for those Wow And then here on the results, uh, you get you have here in the header heading Search for suggestions on results. So it will only check for these 17 profiles if they have any suggestions Right. So you just click this button and you will get suggestions for the search result Okay, you Blana Turknik would give the same result here, but They're in general search. I can write much more advanced queries. Right. Exactly. Yeah Okay Good Okay, I think we covered suggestions. I think we cut their suggestions very well I hope so. Um, so Kathy when you watch this later on Let us know if that's a a nice that was a nice Primer on how to use the suggestions part of wiki tree plus Um, and anyone in the chat. Let us know how how we did. Thank you d for the question that led us nicely into Looking into the suggestions section too. So Thanks for that. Um, okay. So, uh, let's Uh, let's see since sandi was right here. Why don't we go and Ask uh answer her question. I hope you're still with us sandy. Are you there? Um But uh her question was regarding the cemetery reports Is there an easy way to track how many profiles I add the missing category two? I want to do a pop-up challenge for the appalachia project Not really no Oops I mean, um, I don't track changes by user. So this is something Impossible. I mean the data is there, but I don't really have We don't have an analyze that because I would actually have to check all his All history of edits to uh know that oh you you added that category It was not added already on the profiles On the profile, but we have a new about this. We have something new about about Categories and that is uh, uh It was I just published it this last week. I think Sandy was guessing you're gonna say that it wasn't the it wasn't possible. Uh, but what's new If you go to, uh What was previous report march? Uh Uh I think Yes, it was Um Oh, right. We were gonna talk about the cert the server dying. Do you want to talk about that now or after? We can uh No, it's not here. Why is it on the last one? Oh, I did it this last this week, right? It's not on previous so you can Possibility to see when the profile was added to the category so you can actually For for any category you can see when a certain profile was was added. So In march these five profiles were added and so on and so on Very nice. Um, so this is Uh, uh for the uh, since I didn't collect this data in the past I actually used the last edit date of a profile um to To recognize as added date added adding to the Uh category, which is not necessarily the same if it was done sooner than that But that's the most I could do for Backwards for back and now from now on Now for one week. I am actually uh checking When the a profile is added For the first time to the category and remember that date. So from now on it will be exact date When it was added, but for the past it's an approximation that is quite good. I think Okay, it was the For back it was definitely added before that date Right Yes, that I can say for certain, but I don't know how much before that date, right? Okay Very cool. So cemeteries are Oh, is this for projects or for for any category? So so sandy if she's interested in a specific cemetery, she could pull that up and she could see when When certain profile profiles were added to the category Although it it both does mess things up with this because then all the profiles are added at the same date Oh If the category was renamed since it's new one Oh, it was renamed. Oh, okay. Mm-hmm. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah, I hadn't thought about that So this is a new option that might be the projects were actually They have some maintenance category and they want to first resolve the ones that are waiting for the longest So yeah, that makes sense. They were interested in this report. Okay, so sandy says that'll work What she wants to do and how does she get there again? Huh for now you have just you have to You have a link on This week's report and you have to write the category name here But I will I didn't still decide where to put it I'm I don't think it will be maybe I will I'll have to talk with chris if it will be added Maybe we could add it to the pages to the category page That's what I was thinking like we have for If you go to a category, yeah, go to a category page You don't mind When can you just pick a cemetery? Not this one was the late Okay In a cemetery it looks like No, also delay I don't have Okay, let's search for category on wiki 3 and I can even show Yeah the cemetery Here if you want to find a cemetery you can go to search Yeah Okay, this is the the other search where you search for profiles. This is our first two options Um, and then you can also search for categories or pages. So here I can just go to category and write cemetery And that will get 80,000 results probably That's Appalachia How do you spell it? Where was her I'm looking for her where she puts appalachia in her comment there Um, I think it was at the top there There there's appalachia Double p. Okay Okay, well I'm missing also H Something is wrong Well, maybe maybe there's no maybe the cemetery doesn't actually have the word Uh, yeah, most likely we have just appaled Okay, it helped us out with the spelling of appalachia. That was nice So So here on category we already have links to wiki 3 plus these two in the top right and Corner corner the navigate and search. So maybe we will add it. I will ask chris to add here Or if it if you want before it Then it will be most likely added to the wiki 3 extension I was yeah, I was looking at a link you can make in that top row like even just the word timeline Which would which would sort of give because what you've done is basically a timeline of how that can't category was So I will this is one possibility So that's the reason why I still why I still didn't Make a link available anywhere except from the url, so Or the the other thing is if you go back well, I know yeah You see you got how the person profiles are listed there. What if you had two options? alphabetical listing and timeline listing I just have a toggle between two Because it's uh, well, it's not done. It's this is not implemented on wiki 3 plus So on wiki 3 itself. So I Yes, the wiki has to be a link So Okay, for now it this is still available only from by url, but I will I will probably Edit somewhere when I decide where okay. Well stay tuned next month to find out exactly where it ends up But the short answer sandy's go to the news this week. Click on the link and then edit it in the url This is the link and now Here category equals That's a appellation project needs sources So here we go Someone added something just today. It looks like Mm-hmm You can see in the change history Edited biography so category was Yeah Oh sandy did that And she did two days ago On 30 april 3rd But I thought it said today. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, because I did the Category import today because I don't do category import on Monday and tuesday because I'm Servers are busy with weekly That dump it was so I do it four times a week approximately Great. Okay. Good. Well, that's very that's very cool. That's a really neat Mm-hmm way to view the the category people Profiles excellent. Good stuff. Okay. So, um, I'll have to comb through the chat I've got lots more people have joined us since then debbie has joined us Aaron who is helping us spell appellation And hillary's here, uh, june. I saw pop in and these I think I already said no, too So that's great. Um, I'm going to go to the questions Um From the g to g post And the very first one was from bill fighting bills bills here And he wants to know what's the latest scoop on this wiki tree plus server problem and And I think you have some good news about the resolution of that. Yes Well, uh, the As you know, the server died on me last sunday Um And uh, there was nothing we could they could do about it. I took it to the shop and So it's that I ordered then the a new one and Just a few minutes before the escalash hang Broadcast was they called me that uh, the computer is ready. So as soon as I will say bye, I'm driving off to get it That's great, uh, and it will be much faster computer than it used to be Nice, uh, because I was that one was Um, not that expensive and I was not it was it wasn't possible to upgrade it further so it was limited to four cores and 32 gigabytes of ram. So now we took stronger PC with six cores and 64 gigabytes of ram and even it is extendable to Even more if I will need it. So we are good for next few years. Oh good Now did you have a backup of all that data so you didn't lose the data? The hard drive didn't die. So Just the processor guys died. So I took actually the it was really simple. I took I borrowed our backup server and Put the hard drive from wiki 3 plus server in it and it's running now for a week But it's even cheaper computer. So it's a bit slow So it's a bit slower than it and then usual So but and we are without backups now for one week. So Backups will be done again Well, I had to improvise somehow. Yes, that's right That's right. Now the main wiki tree server Um, you must have you know backups for that and fail saves. Oh, that's completely separate Yes, and it's a totally separate server too. Yeah, this one is actually in slovenia So everything with wiki 3 plus is done in slovenia everything is wow While wiki 3 is best in the cloud computer it's using cloud computing.  So I don't think if in case of hardware failure, they just Start new machine New virtual machine. So it's all done automatically Good, okay Well, bill, I hope does that answer your question. Does that I hope that makes makes you feel better Oh, when will it begins? Well, as soon as we're finished at in 20 minutes We will end here and I have 15 minutes drive to there 15 back. So I think before Within one hour from the end of the In an hour and hour and a half. I think it will be up. I I don't see dissipate any problems That's good news Okay, excellent uh, okay So the next downtime will be 10 5 minutes or 10 minutes just to I have to take the hard drive from The one that is running in the moment and put it in the new server that should be all Okay, now I'm gonna try I've got the next question is a little complicated. So let me see if I can add it Here I don't want to scroll. Let's see if that works Okay, so this is a question from Mike Mike Eggleston It's part of this week's data dark dr. Dr. Challenge. I'm attempting to 24 I think you may have You may have did you answer him? I'm not sure there were 24 email addresses in private profiles And he gives the profile manager, which maybe I shouldn't have copied there Um Granted me. Oh, it only it only gives me a certain one. Um, so let me just anyways the profile manager granted him Let me finish adding the Permission to edit her profile, which had multiple errors I've corrected them and saved as a draft But it will not let me do a full save because I cannot mark more than one email error is fixed I actually No, it was not the problem with marking the suggestion fixed He missed one email in the bio So I went afterwards to the profile and removed the second There were actually two emails the the email was entered twice on that profile So I removed the second email and then it saved Okay So what is the what was the error that was being caused because of it? Well, uh email you cannot Put email address on the biography Oh in the biography. Yeah Okay, that's was uh, I mean that's A rule for quite some time And now it is also enforced when you are saving a profile and and if there is an email an email On a in a bio it won't allow you to save so you actually have to remove Oh, okay. So before that was that wasn't a rule initially No, it wasn't but so if you had a someone who created a profile and it had email addresses in there And then you go to open up and you edit it then it won't let you re-save it No, unless you correct remove the right. There are a few other such Such errors for instance If you are a father of yourself, I think you cannot save such profile But it is possible that it was saved in the past and So there are a few errors that are actually Most errors on most errors that are checked after you Finish editing You can impress the save any Save anyway, but but a few are excluded from that and one of those is email address Ah, right, right. So this was wiki 3 problem not wiki 3 plus Right, right. Yes. That's that's right. That would be on the primary one That's good to know. I didn't actually know I didn't realize that Adding actual email addresses in the middle of a bio was not allowed but for privacy reasons that makes a lot of sense And privacy and commerce because it's also not allowed to Advertise on wiki 3 plus. Oh and by having an email address. That's a former. Yeah, you can come by Right, yeah, I guess those are that And hopefully it'll stop people from getting extra spam because everyone gets enough spam email as it is So we well now it's impossible to enter email address on a profile Yeah, you can still use have a link that go to some page, but that's not really possible to prevent Right. Since we want links links to sources We definitely want links. Yes So um that uh that answers that question Excuse me. Um, but here's the the next one Would love to know if there's a way of finding orphaned profiles my location Or fund is no manager probably I think that's what they mean. Oh, oh, it's opposed to people who are Yeah, I mean Anyone who's at the top of a tree doesn't it doesn't have the parents on there, you know, I guess could technically be possibly orphans I don't know, but I think they mean orphan profiles is no manager. Yes And now we've lost a lash completely Okay Oh now he's reconnecting. He's trying to reconnect Because otherwise I might have to try and stumble through answering this one and that would be fun Maybe I was just doing this on purpose Um, okay, I see his face. There he is. Hi, I'm back. Good. Good. So I was thinking, um The grows are close somehow. I will sing. Yeah Yeah I don't know if I I don't know if I should sing anymore sandy That one time during that wiki the wiki treeathon when I sang apparently Mindy got um A takedown notice because they recognized the song I was singing and I didn't pay royalties on it I mean the good news is that it was recognizable, I guess, you know But the bad news is that the royalty police are out there. So Okay, so sir, we are talking about searching for profiles. So you go to the second search Okay, um and uh now Um You can enter or fun. I think that is uh Yep, these are all profiles without a manager. Oh, and you add uh, um You add uh state so look at that friends realize there's a keyword for orphan Nice. Yeah, and you will get all our funds in France Look at that. Uh, it is a keyword. So I have them all listed here. So Yeah, yeah, I know that's that's an excellent. I've used that Uh, so here in the manager section, you You you have special Magic words that you can use and orphan is one of them So it's pretty easy Yeah Well, that's nice. Well, that turned out to be a softball While on the other hand you can also search for no parents Oh, yes, okay And you will get all profiles that don't have parents on wiki 3 plus You can check one and parents. Oops. Oh wait a second. This is wrong. Uh, oh Son off Yeah Check So no father no mother no parents Is it is a case sensitive? No All searches on wiki 3 plus our case insensitive Oh, okay I have to see why that Let's check another one Okay, so it is possible that the profile was edited after the dump Oh So if it was Edited after sunday Um, yeah, we can go check. Let's go back That's right. That's one thing to remember right the wiki 3 server. Yes updated once a week Yep, so What's on wiki 3 on sunday? Morning that is in the dump for next week. So Create it, but Uh-huh, okay, there is a different problem. Oh, this is the profile is The profile has Is private with public public biography. So parents are not listed. I do see them because I have Uh, see some exits, but uh, Usually people don't see the parents Right. That's the reason. Oh, but I should exclude those Hmm. I will correct that. I mean, there is no point in showing them as uh having no parents since Yeah, we don't know if they Yeah, I will have I will correct that Okay Good So we've just made more work for a lesh Oh, I'm correct I'm correcting little things all the time as I oh, yeah, I'm sure you are I know Okay, we're seeing your your um your email screen now, but you don't understand it Yeah, well, that's true It's like you're writing in a whole different language Okay I'm not sure what sandy was referring to about the royalties the um, maybe about the The the relationships there Didn't rerun the search. Okay Uh, that's good. So anyone else in the chat have any other questions for a lesh I think we we don't have any we've gone through all the ones that are in let me just refresh the gdg post I believe we've answered all of those And for stephanie hill who asked the question about orphans. We answered it two ways Depending on which type of orphan she was talking about so that was nice Well, in the meantime, we can maybe, uh Have a look at uh new things on wiki 2 plus. That would be great. Yeah. Oh, we do that So to answer to your question sandy the the whole wiki tree server data Is dumped once a week on sunday mornings But the categories are updated more often. Is that correct? Yes a categories templates and space pages are Uh updated three to four times a week There isn't exact schedule as I have time it happens Okay, so So show us what's new You showed us that one thing that was very cool the uh the timeline Okay, escalash will be today Yeah, good good In case you didn't know that's what you dropped in on this is it Okay, this is about the profiles. Um, okay, so I added Uh, uh, I added validation of mito dna id mito idna id on DNA tests that were entered. So this is 176 suggestions Yeah, okay here In case you're not sure what a lesha's talking mito y dna.org is another website where you can Upload your y dna or your mitocondrial dna Results and compare them. It's sort of like if you're familiar with jet match, which is a place where you you can for free upload your Autosomal dna like from ancestry my heritage and all that and then so it's one place where you can compare all of those mito y dna Dot org is in place where you can do that for your y dna and your mitocondrial dna So here is a validation of jet match id and Right after it are mito mito y dna validation, so actually, um, they have some predefined Rules how the they how the id looks and All these are not formatted as they should these are not valid mito y dna id so They're listed here. I don't know what is wrong. They probably They could make May maybe they did a typo in a number or letter or I don't know enter something completely different And then we also I also check for duplicates since The same test cannot be on two persons Entered in two persons. I mean it shouldn't be although You do have the same hapla group as your father probably But it shouldn't be entered on your on your father's profile. It should be on yours Yeah, and Another one is they have if you have empty dna and y dna tests done both both done They are When you enter them to mito y dna Mito y dna you have to enter it as two tests. So here our case is when the person has the same test as for both for both This so if we have a look at one. So this one has mito T18144 Four on empty and on y dna tests entered, but if you actually check the test results It's not found. Okay. So it is it's not why it's most likely empty dna tests So here here is the test. So the y is wrong So here this part is wrong Mm-hmm And then you get to an existing page on Arget's site. So this is the reason to track those to find those problems, right? Okay This word the dna changes I edit reports for you US black hair the rich project. So they were mostly interested in unconnected profiles But also since I did a separate report I did it for all of them. So here on the On these three links suggest so reports by uh suggestion links by Uh suggestion lists unsourced lists and unconnected lists are now also done for For Right, it should be in us section in us section Um, it should be done for us black heritage pro They are now actively they edit approximately 50 000 profile actually to they have 200 000 profiles Wow, uh that they edit and uh now they're interested in connected them connecting them. So here They have the list of unconnected groups of people they can Connect with a single connection. So this will connect 500 people with when the tree is connected Right. So in that first one that thorn So there's 540 profiles that are all connected to each other Yes, but not to the main but not to the big tree So what we only find need to find one connection than all of those All of those will be connected. So You just want to do that you just want to find that Yeah, it's in their chair. They have challenge each month and they are doing on this exactly on this All right, uh, so, you know, here's here's a question for you that just popped into my head What is the largest Unconnected tree like that that's in wiki tree that's floating not do you know? Yes, oh Well, you go to unconnected lists, okay, uh, and I open here and here at the end you have all Okay, so this is not by region or and the bigger With And you can list all those profiles and Here they are they are not connected Hmm But those three thousand are connected to each other. So This is but I don't even understand the name Do you oh, oh, yeah now I see Okay, so that one I'll take a pass on trying to solve that Okay Um, oh So sandy's uh saying that's a cool report, but then she says which project has the most that needs connected I don't know. I think the the moment that would be black heritage project because they really had They have 50 000 profiles unconnected profiles at the moment and that's Kind of the most I think Actually, uh, now with this report you can you can actually use wiki tree plus to search Where uh, so in general a search Uh, you can answer enter that three id that is That was visible here in the report And this will find all those profiles and then you can, uh Enter, uh, united states And you will see if these three Wonders into us it doesn't Oh Okay, Japan Also not Check if I have the correct three Yes, I do. They are all orphans Um Let's increase the page size. Do they not have locations? Yeah, it seems I mean it's empty the column is empty for a location Here in birth and that even the they don't even have dates Hmm Completely I don't know that's the reason I really don't know what this is Probably all orphans the connectors project would know more about this I'm sure they looked into it but Uh This must this was probably some jet come import, right? Uh, oh, that's korean Oh Right, okay But now location. I mean all the location are cleared interesting Um So if you did that tree with korea would they show up? It should then If there is at least one Uh-huh. Here they are There are some so china is present For instance These four profiles are from china Um Go a lot of profiles from Korea So Okay, now I know why this profile this tree is unconnected. Yes There's not a lot to go on there. Yeah, okay. They have malaysia. So you can search malaysia You'll get the three profiles that are in malaysia Um So you can also for all unconnected profiles You see the that the profile is unconnected and you get a reference three and the number And that number is this we is okay for this week and it will Include all those profiles that are connected together in as a search result and you can then Crawl add additional Search varies to it Ah nice Okay So if there's some criteria that is easier like for me, I know about canadian resources So if I could find any canadians in there, then I might have a better chance of connecting that than someone Who's not as familiar but there are We should probably choose another Yeah, yeah Because I know this one is on the on the list for years now. Oh, okay. You recognize it But that's cool. I didn't realize it. Well, yeah, I always learned something new With these I hope other people do too But that's very cool seeing the list of unconnected trees and then Okay So we're we're at the hour mark. Um, what else is new that you wanted or is that Okay, I changed some I added a blank to the Uh Spelling variations. So now if you split Mississippi and put a blank in between in the middle It will find those as a type of soul Although there were uh, many false suggestions that I will have to tend to This week because Some things were Are correct As they are Okay But okay, this is something I uh wanted to improve but At the end it will be better And i'm still waiting for new server Because you only have to wait about 15 minutes till you get Okay, and then previous news were I improved the search capabilities when you used multiple indexes. So If you entered birth country equals and that country equals And if you used england or united states, that was a huge number of profiles that was Working quite slowly. It took five six seconds to complete such requests But after I did some optimization In the background now it does it in 10 one tenth of a second. So that's amazing that will Much easier for my server So a few reports a few new reports where I edit and some Location table was updated DNA Okay, dna stuff also last week I updated. I added a lot a lot of changes to the Other tests of why haplogroups and compare them and check for the Wrong matches you can since you cannot have two different haplogroups on the same ancestor On the same line together. So those are reported as suggestions Now they're either it's a test is wrongly entered or some relation is wrong now that Take some expert to establish what's wrong Okay, I think this was mainly Yeah, all of the rest are were I think minor Minor changes great Aha search result grouping was finished. This is right you I think you mentioned it briefly before I did but uh, I it didn't show Oh, it didn't show when you demonstrated and it still doesn't come on. Oh, no showing the first 500 I have no idea it doesn't work again. Oh, no Oh, well, I was using it. Yeah. Yeah Oh, well, okay. We'll come back to that one then. Okay Well, that's good. Um, we don't have any more questions in the chat here. So I think It's time to get a new server. It's time to get the new server. So let's uh, let's say adieu and um, Safe driving a lesh. Don't break any speeding laws trying to get your new service. We don't want to in jail We want the server up and running. We don't have to be want to bail you out Anyways, thanks for everyone who showed up Live and thanks for everyone who was watching This after the fact and if you have any other questions, um Just add them you can either add them to the the post this one or save them up for next next week's posts Or next month's post will be here the first wednesday Of may and uh, we'll see you then Thanks very much


Hello. Hi, everyone. I'm honored to talk today at DrupalCon about content migration into Drupal8. And I think it's time when I can start my presentation. So my name is Irina Zaks. I'm web developer. I'm Drupal developer and I'm open source evangelist. I teach Drupal technology courses at Stanford University. And I also started Fibonacci Web Studio. And this is a company where we're doing advanced web development for research, develop advanced tools for research and academia. In today's presentation, we're going to talk about content migration tools that are available in Drupal8. There's a large number of very important topics that we will not cover today, including world peace. So before diving into actual presentation, I want to give everyone a warning. I made decision to do a live demo. We're entering wilderness. This laptop uses dev tools. My sites use dev tools. Things might and they will break. Also, another great thing is that screenshots that I took two weeks ago are now some of them are obsolete because while we're sitting here and talking, some people downstairs in the sprint launch are coding and submitting patches. So by the time we get home back home to our offices, things will work even better than I show you today. So stay calm and Drupal on. Before we dive into technical things, I want to take a bird's eye view like why we are migrating content. Because the question why is always the most important. We have all kinds of tools, but we need to understand why we're using them. So the mission of the website is to support your organizations. And so sites, organizations change and websites change. They also change with time. People wear different fashion once in a while. And overall, lifetime of the websites is at best four to five years. There's a large number of reasons why you might want to change your site. Some of them are a little bit better. Some of them are not so good. But nonetheless, actual migration starts when you hear words with God budget. So when you are ready to actually start migration, first, as migration experts recommend what you review, what you've got right now, you look at your current website and you document your findings. That will help you a lot. And once you are done with your review, you can need to make lots of big decisions. You want to decide what you keep, what to delete, what to change and what you're going to be adding. And based on these decisions, you have two large paths. One would be if you have lots of good content that you want to keep, then you're looking at what is actual migration. And if you really don't have enough content, not that ideas or something, then you're building the new site. Today, we're going to talk about migrations. Okay? We're going to be using an example of a website for a research center. It had a lot of good content. And we were addressing two major things. One, they had non-responsive theme and then had poor experience for content managers. And for them, preserving everything that they worked through the last decade was very important. They had lots of images, lots of videos. And so for us, content migration was a very big part of the contract. So we put together all kind of our tools and started this Drupal 7 to Drupal 8 migration. One of the problems with Drupal, whenever people ask me which system you would recommend we use, and I say Drupal, I say, well, we can't use Drupal because we can't upgrade. And that is true that early migrations in Drupal from one version to another were real, real adventures. You had to write lots of scripts, you know, this SQL code, which is not exactly very appealing to people who are site builders. By the time when it was 6, when we were migrating Drupal 6 to Drupal 7, it was very routine exercise. We had the process and we had tools. You would set up your new site, you would create your content types, you will set data expert and data import, which was with a good tool set, very well-known exercise, but still it was pretty tedious and very time-consuming. So when we quoted data migration, migration portion was a huge cost. Well, migration from 6 or 7 to 8 is just a pleasant walk in the park. And I have to admit that this upgrade via web interface was one of the most pleasant surprises that Drupal 8 brought to me. And one of the biggest argument to actually move, start moving on to Drupal 8. So in the new system, we can skip three very big steps and very time-consuming. And instead of that, we click one button. And so we do have this one-click migrate and we're going to demo it today. There's actually also module migration that is available in Drupal 8. So we will do comparison because there's one-click upgrade and rollbacks and multiple import. So first we are going to look at the source site where we had very clearly defined content and then we're going to demo how it was actually done. With this, blessings of all the, you know, everything that was blessings I can get today, we're going to dive into the live demo. So this is the old site that is not live anymore with migrated last fall. It had very clearly defined content types, lots of them. We're going to look at the person content type. This is a very typical example of a very typical content type of like almost any website that had all kinds of fields, images, references, date, text, and lots of actual content. And then the form was configured in a particular way, so for ease of editing. So here was our process for migration. We go to my dashboard and pantheon. This is a place where I want to think pantheon for providing ideal tool set that completely like I'm a site builder, I'm working with information architecture. I don't have to know anymore, you know, I don't have to see command line. This provides me great tool set and I click create new site and this is going to tell me what site would you like and I'm going to give it a name and say continue. And within the next five minutes, my site will be built. So one site, this site is built and it's going to be Drupal 8. I get brand new out of the box instance and this is where I will start adding my modules. So lots of modules are now in core, so we don't need to add them. So for the very basic migration, I usually would add admin tool bar just for ease of operation, path auto because I really need to have this path created automatically and then development tool set. And after I add this modules, I'm going to start enabling tools for migration, migrate Drupal and Drupal migrate UI and then once it is done, I go, now I can go here to development and I see this new button that is called upgrade. I click upgrade and it is going to ask me if I want to actually upgrade and I say yes, please import new configuration and content from old site. And here, if everything works correctly, it's going to bring me an opportunity to connect to the old site and this is where I need to enter credentials for the website. So this is one kind of, this is a little bit of a challenge sometimes because if you are site builder and owner of the site content, you would need to find out from your system administrator this four things. So once you, if it actually works, it will allow me to enter credentials and then if you installed completely new website and didn't make any single changes, then you can just continue. But if for example you decide that you want to add another user or you want to upload a log or do anything with this blank site, it will, the Drupal itself will detect that something has happening on the new site and it will say, are you ready to lose any data that's there? And normally you would say yes, let's go ahead. And for some reason it's not really doing what I asked it to do. So we're going to proceed. So once you click the button upgrade, then Drupal will start building at the back things that are called migration paths. And migration paths, there's number of them that come from the core and they will migrate your nodes, your taxonomy, your users. If you had any custom modules on your old website or even if you used like display suite or some other country modules on the Drupal 7 site, Drupal might say I have like missing upgrade paths. And at this point you will say okay whatever unless you are back on developer and it can write yourself this migrate path. And this will be migration customization and that's something that's going to be chapter 3 of this presentation. So for now we're all just site builder will say yes please import new content, add interface and then click button yes and then Drupal will start running actual migration. And you will see this log messages running. And first time when I saw was like oh wait, wait, wait, wait, I can't read that quickly. The good news that all these things are very conveniently recorded in the recent log messages report. And I don't have to oh, let me do it again and again. So now since we got some connection, let's try to actually run this thing and the database password. Now here you need to enter the another beautiful thing that I totally love about this upgrade is that I don't need to figure out what where is my wire dub dub dub doc root because on different hosts it will be at different places. I can simply enter URL of my website and my great model itself knows how to get from the URL to the files. And so well after this all this thing has finished running, we are going to arrive into site that has all the content. So after your migration has been run and completed, you can see here all your log messages that tells you exactly what happened, how many nodes of each content type it upgraded. You can see like what fields were upgraded and on and on and on. And you have right here all the content that you had in your previous website. So great everything is done. We can go get some cup of coffee and send email to our boss that everything is done. We just go home. Well, we're almost done. For example, I can see that I have been, I know that I was migrating people's profiles. I know that conveniently Able starts with A and I know that there was a lot of information in his profile. I saw his picture. I saw his title. But when I go to my new site, I do not see any of that. And that of course is like, oh my gosh, what's going on? So I see picture but not the other things. So what happens unless you have a migration path for form and display suit, which I didn't install because we're doing just basic out of the box, I can see that all the fields are here. However, in Drupal 8 now form display is in core. So with every content type you have form display and all these fields are hidden because we didn't set migration path for display suit. But good news is it takes very little time to move them back and reconfigure form display the way you want it to make sure that your editor experience is consistent that what you want for new site. And in the same way, if you want to simply change display, which most likely you're going to be doing anyway, this is your screen right there. And you can just move things around and save. And things are showing up very consistently. So the summary of this migration is that you've got content is now in your new Drupal 8. It preserves node IDs, which is a big deal because now you don't have to deal with lots of redirects and lost files. It created users and it created roles. It created taxonomies. And so all the work that you were spending on setting up migration is done with promised one click. There are some things that don't work very well with this one click, really one click upgrade. You can't roll back. So we used pantheon as our like, we would set things up, we migrate, we find some errors, and then we have to roll back. The problem with this one time migration is if you're doing continuous development and people are making changes on the life side, while you already migrated something, you can't add these things in. The issue that is not addressed right now is that field collection, field collections, which one of the biggest challenges right now does not have out of the box path. And there is a problem with plain HTML format. It looks differently in so plain text format has changed drastically from Drupal 7 to Drupal 8. I know that my great team is working right now on mitigating this problem and building the path, but it's not contributed yet. And so for our migrations, we converted everything into full HTML, migrated, and then whatever we wanted to do, we could do after that. So if you are doing a migration and you see a particular problem, you have two options. You can write your custom script and just like, okay, we're done. Or you can do a patch and send it back to Drupal.org, which would be a great, great solution. So with all these limitations, we want to have a little bit more tools. And here is the moment when enters drush. We actually, and we want to give people to have an option to have a little bit more options still within web interface. So we need a developer to run one drush command after you've added migrate tools, migrate plus, and migrate manifest. This is your command. As they say, your wish is my command. My wish is I can have rollback migrations at any time, day and night. And then drush says your wish is my command. And this is command you enter. And after that, magically, we have a new thing that's coming, coming in. Now we have a button called execute. This one, no, this is not. So we are getting button that's called migrations. This is interface that Drupal migrate and migrate tools and migrate plus provide for site builders and for people who don't want to deal with command line. This is the place where you can set up your migrations. And I know that my great team is right now working on contributing to core, the ability to integrate, upgrade with migrate. But right now, the only way to get this is to run that drush command. However, great news is that now we already have it still in patches, but there's URL that you can add that you now get this execute button. And this is the button that allows you to actually execute migrations. So you can import things, you can roll back, and you can also stop if like if you get migration of 10,000 nodes and apparently something is wrong, you can stop migration in the middle and then you can reset and clean it up. So when I see import, so in this group of migrations, so this is migration, then there is a migration group. And then I can go into this migration and I'm going to say execute. And this button triggers one at a time, the large migration that you saw happening with one upgrade, like as a whole thing. Now you have the granularity to say, please only import people or please only import research areas or whatever you need to do. And if, for example, you want to stop that migration or you want to roll it back, you have an option to do that. So once migration, it has been completed, I have now here, like all the people in one research area. And let's say there were like large number of change and happened on the original site. Here I can say roll back please. And if everything works as expected, then it will roll back and remove all the nodes. And I will have maybe clean interface with only the nodes that I need. And then I can run these migrations back and forth as many times as I need. So these are, if you want to get these execute buttons, you need to get these patches. They have not been pushed out of the live versions yet, but they are there. And this is migration options that you get once you add these patches. Migrate manifest module also allows your option to customize migration even to a more granularity by adding manifests. So manifest is the list of, the list of migrations that you saw over there, they are all listed in the file called manifest yaml. And so if you want to intercept migration, you can create your own manifest for a particular type. So you want to do news differently. And then, for example, this famous field text format, this is where you need to write your own custom plugin. Or for example, you're manipulating really your own data. This is where you can intercept it and write your own scripts. And the biggest news that I would like to announce for the next two minutes that I still have for presentation is that feeds module is actually working now. It has been released, I think in February. It has now CSV import working for Drupal 8. Temporary UI is working. And we have discussions for feeds and we have weekly meetup where technical discussions are happening. This URL is listed on the Drupal.org module feeds. So everyone is quarterly invited to come and participate and ask questions and test patches. And we're going to have sprints tomorrow at 11 o'clock downstairs in the sprint room. And if anybody wants to participate, please join us for feeds and migrate sprint. So this is the summary of your migration with ease from Drupal 7 to Drupal 8. One time migration is your content is ready. Enable migrate and tools plus if you need to go back and forth or use feeds to bring additional content. So with this said, I would like to thank everyone for coming to this presentation. Join us for sprints and thank you very much.


OpenStack better for everybody. So next up, we're gonna hear from C-Trip. This is the largest travel site in China. And Eric Yi, who's spent 20 years in Silicon Valley and then moved to China to head up the R&D Center as the GM at C-Trip, and VP of Technology is gonna come up and tell us what they're doing with OpenStack. And I think you're gonna be pretty excited when you hear what he has to say. Come on up, Eric. Thank you, Mark. Dada zhan hao. Good morning, and I probably have some friends in the stage. You guys sit there, okay. And today I'm three parts. One is talking about C-Trip a little bit, and I quickly go into what we do with cloud technology to empower to transform C-Trip call center in the bien. Then I will talk about going forward in what other challenges we're having, next steps. At last, we'll give an on-stage live demo about our mobile app using cloud technology, okay. All right, let's get going. So this is the largest online booking for hotels on this platform. And 40% then serve that many countries in the cities. The hotel coverage, okay. So 350,000 hotels covered on the planet. Then next one is the largest fly booking platform in China. There's some numbers over there. The airport surfed and how many tickets issued every day. Next one is C-Trip, not only the hotel and the flights, we have a bunch of other business that I want to highlight, a few of them here. So first one, the package is another one, group tool, cop travel, if you're in China, you know those things. But we are working, so that's probably most people in China know. And now we're creating new businesses, car, cruise, train, international expansion, destination, which is a travel guide, community, so on and so forth, okay. So that's all good. And so that's, I'm talking about today where we are, okay. And I show some numbers for you so that you get a sense. Number one is the website, we call the data centers. We have three, and PV, new members, adding daily. So the offline, C-Trip is pretty good about call center business, as many of you know. And if you look at the call volumes every day, it's very impressive, okay. So we have, literally we have 13,000 call agents, and they're taking shifts. Call center, we have three different locations. All right, so the mobile, and in last year, we're pushing mobile technology quite a bit, and that's grow very fast, and I give it a demo at the end. Now, move forward, fast forward, and forward for seven years, okay. So this is, we planned, let me show you some numbers, okay. Business needs to grow 10 times, because we calculate, and I don't get into details about that, how we can get 10 times, but that's what we're aiming for, okay. Active users, and the traffic, and the site availability, and operation footprint, call center footprint, and I did the sizing on that, so there are some numbers. And we will use in clouds later, okay. So now, look at those numbers. For business side, for the, I'm talking about business VPs, and they're pretty excited, okay. The, I mean the technology side, and I feel extremely challenged to meet those numbers. And not, well, it's a challenge, and all the exciting, and there are lots of things to do. If you look at the, today, the traffic, I show you last slides, it's, although it's the largest travel platform in China, but I come from Silicon Valley, so it's the largest auction site. So that's number compared with them, still kind of a dove, right. And, but, 2020, and those numbers will be not dove, and probably we'll move up to maybe top 20 online e-commerce site by then. All right, so, then, I quickly transition into what cloud can help. And as head of the technology, I need to look at what other weapons I have to meet those challenges. So the one thing we are working on, which is, I started almost two years ago, and see that, and we need to get into cloud, okay. So now, after we look, study it, and I have a team created it, and look into some projects, and then try a few things, and we come up with something really, really unique, which I haven't seen anything on the planet doing something we see through this, okay. Let's look, what we're doing. One, okay, that's a quick one, and I don't want to talk about more. This is, so we are at the 2013 using heavily, heavily run on the open stack. And the reason we're using open stack is less over there, I don't need to read through this, okay.  And we doing next one, and I want to point out what we're doing something unique with the open stack. So there's two colors, the red ones, the yellow, and we're planning to use the white we are using already, okay. So this one I'm going to talk about a little bit more, okay, that's something with the C-trip is unique. And a few minutes ago I was talking about 13,000 agents today, and answering phone every minute, okay. And during holidays, 300,000 phone calls, you need to take care of them, all right. So what's the technology behind? And if you're dealing with a call center in the past, you probably know there's quite a bit of technology behind, okay. But most of the call center companies, they don't heavily invest on technologies. And the C-trip call center we are still growing, and investing on technology, I have some business values behind, okay. So today, 2013, I'm going to deploy 1,000 virtual desktops. But for a virtual desktop means that desktop is not on the, in the cubicle, not on the desk. Desktop will be disappeared on the cubicle. On the cubicle will be only has a monitor. Okay. Then the desktop is virtual, putting on the move back to the server. It's not physically move back to the server room, we creating a VM for the desktop. So the OS, the browser, the our call center applications will be sits in the VM and in the server rooms. So we had right now, we are in the pilot right now, and this year, and we are very confident in the move up to probably 1,000 instances. So 1,000 desktops will be disappeared. And now next year, continue the pass. So that by end of next year, 13,000 desktops will be gone, right. So that's something pretty exciting in that, if you look at five years ago, technology was not very really, okay. You have to buy a vendor product. Some vendor does that, but to be with the comparison from cost perspective, and vendor solution is not going to cheaper than you buy desktop and put on the cube. You look at, and so what we come up in the cost is chop it half. Vendor can do, we can accomplish it in half of the cost. And the opposite play a big role on that, okay. All right, so this is something unique. Then there's, I want to talk about a few things, one more thing about Citroop Private Clouds. That's what you guys are very familiar with, and all cost center is going through that kind of phase. And from Dev Farm, QA Farm, and Production Application Farms. So that's, I'm not going to expand a little bit more, okay. So here are the numbers you can see, and we are very successful on the QA farms. Production Farms is a little bit more involved, as you guys, if you've dealt with this problem before, and you know some challenges in production, then in the QA. All right, so that's what I'm talking about, and I want to hook up the mobile phone, and here are some numbers you can see. Let me show you some excitings we have, all right. Wow, that's come up really good. So this is application. I do a few demos, okay. So this is Shanghai to Hong Kong flights. So it's come up like an instinct, right, and all the price. And the tickets we're sourcing from, you talk about, you talk about like 500, 600 airlines provides those tickets, and we connect with the airlines, connect with the GDS, and so on and so forth. All right, so that's on the back, but I want demo on the app side. So we have the train, I just randomly choose it, and the instinct come back, right. So now you see that Eric, you didn't do something, that's normal stuff, why it's so cool. This is a hotel, so I hit something cool real quick, okay. So this is W Jiu Dian, this is boys. Let's try one more, W Jiu Dian. How, this is we party last night here, let's look. So the hotel, and here's all the rooms, probably one of the lounge we stayed last night, right. All right, so now this is still traditional APP application, and so there's one button here called the Yu Ying Chao Xun, okay, voice search right here, okay. Now here I want to hit something real, okay. So I come forward, all right. Shanghai, Beijing, Huo Chou Piao. I just said Shanghai, Beijing, train tickets. All right, come up, right, all the cool stuff, and nice, right, thank you, all right. Something really challenging, one time people say that, give me a ticket to the Tibet, so I see something like a Shanghai, to Shanghai, to Xi Zong, Huo Chou Piao. We'll see, what's that, Lhasa, Shanghai, Xi Zong, you can already recognize that it's right there. Very impressive, right, all right. So let me do hotels, okay. Hong Kong, Ji Chang, Fujing, Jiu Dian. I just said give me Hong Kong, hotels nearby, Hong Kong airport, so right there, okay. That's it, all right. So now some hotel is very expensive, 3,000, more than 3,000 Hong Kong dollars. I want to do something narrow down, okay. Let me do that. Give, oh, sorry, I was trying to speak English, and this application only recognized Chinese, okay. So let me try again. Hong Kong, Ji Chang, Fujing, Jiu Dian. 2,000 yuan in it, oh, 2,000 yuan in it, right. 3,000 is gone, okay. How about this, and I do even further, okay. Hong Kong, Ji Chang, Fujing, Jiu Dian, 200 yuan in it. I said 200 US dollars, 200 Hong Kong dollars, there's none, all right. So there's no hotel here, it's 200 dollars, you don't search, okay. My presentation is done. Thank you very much. All right, so one more thing. Ops, go back, cannot go back, all right, it's okay. And I just want to thank you guys, and see you 11, we have a technical session on how we implement virtual desktop, I just highlight here, and there's some private cloud technology called the bad metal so-and-so for sake, see you then. Thank you, that was great, that was great. So as he mentioned, they will be having a longer session, around 11.15 in this room. We're gonna go into a lot more detail in the technology. So just to wrap up.


Hello and welcome to a daily debrief brought to you by People's Dispatch. I am Shriya and today we talk about the Ukraine war as reports emerge of a missile landing in Poland. Meanwhile, Israel is angry that the FBI has opened an investigation into the Shireen Abu Akhlei killing. And finally we take a look at why the internet giant Google has agreed to pay a $390 million settlement on privacy issues. In the early hours of November 16, a missile hit a Polish village about 6 km from the Ukrainian border and killed two people. Initial findings reported by the Associated Press suggest the missile was fired by Ukrainian forces at an incoming Russian missile. We joined by Abdul from People's Dispatch on this issue. Welcome to the show, Abdul. So a lot of confusion on what has happened and who is responsible for it. Can you tell us what information do we have so far? Well, as per the latest reports, there are no confusion now. The various reports including the US President Joe Biden and the Turkish President Erdogan, they have stated categorically that the missile which landed in Poland was basically Ukrainian missile. It was a part of the S-300 anti-missile defense system which basically was fired on the Russian missiles but it basically landed in Poland. That part is quite clear now. The confusion was created primarily because the Ukrainian President Zelensky claimed that the missile which landed in Poland was basically fired by Russians and it is part of the Russian attacks aggression on different parts of Ukraine which is already ongoing. Despite the fact that Russians issued an earlier statement claiming that the missile has nothing to do with the Russians, the overall propaganda machinery which is working in the war in particular, we have seen it, the use of social media in particular has basically contributed to the overall confusion claiming that this is an attack on a NATO member, Poland being the NATO member and hence there is a possibility of the escalation of the war in which the NATO will directly be involved. But thankfully the statements made by Russians have been verified and as per now there is no threat for further escalation. Also Abdul, Poland is a NATO member and there has been a lot of alarm regarding that. So how do we see the West responding to this event? As I said before, thankfully the US, Turkey, these are the NATO members of course. They have by a large agreed that the missile which landed in Poland was not launched by Russia and it was basically an accident. The Ukrainian missile landed in Poland. Though the basic question is what is the intention behind Zelensky and the pro-Ukrainian media in particular claiming and trying to emphasize the fact that this is a Russian aggression against a NATO member. If we see in the absence of the wider negotiations or talks which is required to basically end the war and create a kind of peaceful situation in the reason, there has been a deliberate attempt made by various leaders including the Ukrainian president in the past of dragging the NATO directly into the war. NATO is already there in the war providing armaments to Ukrainians. Indirectly it is a proxy war between the NATO and the Russians but Zelensky in particular and some other leaders have tried to make it a direct war between NATO and Russia. If you remember Zelensky had talked about no-fly zones over Ukraine in the initial days of the war then also the US refused claiming that this may lead to direct confrontation with Russian forces and there had been claims made on various occasions about Russia's involvement in human rights violations, large-scale human rights violations in different parts of the territory. Then there has been claims of involvement of foreign mercenaries in the war from the Russian side. So this is all part of a constant attempt by the Ukrainian establishment to establish that the war is acquiring a global nature and hence there is a need of direct intervention from NATO. It is dangerous, it can lead to unforeseen events and thankfully the leaders involved in the entire process have not fell for those provocations. If we summarize all of this, this event in particular shows the possibilities of an accident misused and kind of leading to an escalation which no one wants and hence this is a high time that all the parties should sit together and negotiate. Thank you so much Abdul, we will come back to you for our next story. In our next story FBI has opened investigation into the killing of Palestinian journalist Shreen Abu Akhle. The US Justice Department informed its Israeli counterparts on Monday. 51-year-old Akhle was fatally shot by Israeli forces while covering a raid in the occupied West Bank city of Jenin in May. Israel has responded angrily calling it an interference in its internal affairs. Abdul is back for latest updates. So Abdul, yes, why is the investigation happening now? Is there a reason for this choice of timing? We do not know frankly speaking. There can be many speculations. Primarily, if we see the reason behind this delayed attempt to start a reinvestigation should be attributed to the midterm elections which were due in US and the elections in Israel. So now that both of them are over, the Biden administration felt that now it is time to respond to the repeated appeals and demands made by not only Shreen Abu Akhle's family members because she was a US citizen, also by various human rights organizations who have claimed that what Israel has done in this case is yet another example of the historical impunity which Israel enjoys in the occupied Palestinian territories and it violates the human rights, it kills the Palestinians, it kills journalists and international human rights activists in the past and nothing has happened against it. So it is right time that given the fact that Shreen was a US citizen, you should basically investigate and take an action. Given the, we need to emphasize the fact that US and Israel because of their ties, it is always difficult for any US administration to basically take a stand and start such kind of, such kind of move against Israelis and therefore it was delayed, we can guess and now that the elections are over, a new administration is yet to take over, there is a gap in between, the US administration can kind of think of kind of starting an investigation now. But although there have been similar probes that have taken place in the past, what have those been like and what do you think this new probe can bring out possibly? Frankly speaking, there is hardly any hope. At Max, the investigations earlier have already established in a very conclusive manner that Shreena Bouakle was killed by an Israeli soldier and all the claims made by Israel that Shreena was killed in an accident during a crossfire between Palestinians with Palestinian armed groups and so on and so forth have been refuted, not only by Palestinian investigations but also by investigations conducted by international independent media groups and human rights organizations based in different parts of the world. So there is no doubt when it comes to who is responsible for killing it. So US investigation, what will it achieve? We don't know. We have evidence that and it is already in public domain that US had basically endorsed the earlier Israeli version of it being an accident. When in July, it basically issued a statement saying that Shreena's assassination was, Shreena's death was basically a result of an accident. This is exactly what Israeli quote-unquote investigation in September said. So there is an identical statement issued by Israel and US in the past and in that context, this investigation, whether it will refute the earlier instances taken by the US or it will go beyond it and as Shreena Abu Akhles family is claiming that the investigation should be independent, credible and so on and so forth, whether it will be that, we have to see. But given the record, historical record, given what we know about Israel and US relations, it is highly unlikely that there will be any action taken against the Israelis at this moment. Thank you so much Abdul for that update. Google has agreed to pay more than $390 million to settle with 40 states in the United States over charges of misleading the company's users about the collection of personal location data. The investigation was sparked by a 2018 report from the Associated Press that revealed Google was continuing to track users' location undermining the privacy controls. Anish from People's Dispatch joins us with more details. Hi Anish, so can you tell us what was in the AP report initially and what is the controversy now? Well, in 2018 when Associated Press released the report based on a couple of Princeton University researchers' way of collecting or their study of how Google collects data and which includes your location, geographic location and apart from that a whole host of other things that Google does collect on a very regular basis and they found that even when, so this is a very simple thing to say, like when we talk into say Google Maps and they ask for our location or our live location and it's not just Google Maps but also a whole host of other apps that we use including Chrome and other search applications that Google operates. There is always this question of allowing Google access to your location and even when we press Snow the 2018 report found that Google still continues to track your location, not only track it but also completely store that data which you may not be aware of. Now the thing is that we can still access the data, eventually found out about it in your accounts and you can delete those data as well but the problem is that your data is still being stored without your consent. Now this is a very fundamental question about privacy that is firstly unregulated in most cases not just in the United States. The United States still has laws that deal with privacy and digital privacy. There are many countries around the world that do not have any sort of laws or protections for citizens especially when you're talking about the fact that Google is a foreign company for most of us and they're collecting our data is always a dangerous thing. But secondly the issue is that there is very little infrastructure to monitor how such data collection happens. So definitely finding that out, Google argues right now that its data collection policies have changed obviously and that the probe that happened against it by the court has also changed and is based on outdated policy measures which we still do not have ways to verify whether or not that is true in most places. Your privacy protection can also change with the kind of device that we use and the kind of device that allow so our devices may just allow Google access to our it's not just location history it's also a whole host of other things our search history even the incognito tab that many people use for various reasons will still collect a large set of data that we may not want not just Google but other people to have access to it's not the first time that Google is being pulled up for collecting data without people's consent. Yeah and like you just said so this is not the first time that Google has faced a lawsuit it has recently and many have come up in recent past. So is there a pushback of sorts that we are seeing? There is definitely a pushback in the sense that because many governments are being quite aware and also not just aware but very of Google's pervasiveness in most of our lives it is obviously the most widely used search engine it also likewise is the biggest repository of personal information of people billions of people around the world and so its capabilities are still something that most governments do not have either the infrastructure or the legal judicial mechanisms to regulate and monitor and so obviously we do have issues coming up all the time but lawsuits like these and not just the one that we're talking about where they find there is another lawsuit in the United States where they are settling for something like 85 million dollars in Arizona there are four other states including Washington DC where Google is facing similar kind of lawsuits for of collecting personal data and location history previously we saw the Australian Commission Australian regulatory commission finding Google millions of dollars for doing pretty much the same thing which is of collecting location histories without people's consent so obviously Google now has statements about changing its policy so that your data or the data that it collects to put it more precisely is more accessible to user and accessibility comes the option of deleting them in the future but the collection will still continue we do not know how much of that is still consensual on our part because there is as I said there is very little infrastructure to actually monitor these aspects unless the studies like what Associated Press did or published in 2018 are conducted on a very routine basis by a whole host of researchers who understand the system itself so this is definitely but that also shows that there is wider concerns about privacy in the current digital age where multi-million multi-billion but in some in some cases trillion dollar companies control pretty much everything that we have access to on the internet and it definitely requires a pushback that it is seeing right now thank you so much Anish for joining us today and that's all for today for more such stories and updates from around the world please keep following www.people'sdispatch.org and also follow us on Instagram, Facebook and Twitter


Babes Wajimo exposes Mampincha for defrauding her. GOM QUEEN. Babes Wajimo reveals how Mampincha has been defrauding her on episode 9, season 2 of their reality show, Uthando Lodomo. The GOM singer whose real name is Bong Jaquil Simelaine detailed how her husband signed in her name into a company without her consent. On the work front, he's made me sign into a company that I don't know, he didn't make me sign which makes it fraudulent. I was told that all my music and royalties have been transferred to this company, she revealed. Babes Wajimo said her man, Mandla Mafumulo received money from the company and she knows nothing about it, as she doesn't see the money which made her presume he is spending the money on other women. Jub Jub's real fiance fumes as she reveals all his cheating secrets. Every time I released a song, they will block it from being played on Facebook, because the usage rights now belong to the company, and I don't even know the company. Then the company gave him a huge payout that I didn't even get a share of. They provided proof of payment made to him, but I've never seen the money. I started assuming he is seeing someone on the side that I don't know of, after that, he went and hand over my Instagram to that company, and now they've got control over my account, she added. All these were done without my consent. Bong Jaquil is pained and hurt by all of these Mandla is doing, as he is embarrassing her and destroying her life. In the same episode, she also spoke about how Mam Pinchah has been flirting and cheating on her with other women around her.


Hi, I'm George Kau and today I'm with Claire Marie Barton and she's going to be she has a special gift with sound healing That she's gonna be sharing with us, but first I'm gonna have her share a little bit about the lessons that she's learned in growing her business and then we'll get into What sound healing is and and how you know she can actually do a bit of a demonstration for us So that I'm excited for that Let me begin by reading out. Well, first of all, hello Claire. Thanks for being here. Thanks for the hi George Thanks for having me. So let me Claire Let me read your bio so that those who are watching can have some context for what you do Claire is a holistic therapist and she offers sound healing Angel card readings and I'll have you talk a bit about that as well as assemblage point Alignment and I'll have you I'll ask you about that too She does this in West Cork Ireland as well as on the internet Her work is all about connection to self and creating space for healing Especially regarding emotional issues. She is the author of the book letting go a mother's healing journey through diaries poetry and song and She teaches beginner ukulele classes for adults which are currently locally in Ireland So Claire, thank you for being here and sharing with us Thanks, George. Yeah, so a couple of the you know, we'll just touch on the business lessons briefly and then I'm going to ask you some of the questions about the work that you do and how you do some demonstration of the sound healing so uh, you know, one of the things that you've been learning is about letting go of perfectionism Maybe you can talk a bit about that Yeah, I mean when I started Doing my sound healing business. I was really excited because I'd discovered sound healing and I'd done the course and I'd done the angel card reading course so I was all ready to go and just really wanted to get into the work and then I kind of Suddenly realized that I needed to have the business side of things as well and that's something that I had no real training in in the past and I just had to make friends with the word marketing and and try and find away with that and You know finding you and doing your courses last year when you were doing offering Your courses on facebook and different things like that. I started doing them and started learning and I think in the past like year and a half. I've been doing a lot of Learning learning new skills techie skills computer skills and then using things like facebook and And in that I would find I'd get overwhelmed really quite easily and I Was in a mode of perfection And the problem about being in perfection is that it paralyzes you from doing anything so When you think about doing your website and think okay, I'm going to do my website and then oh, but it has to be like this This and this and it's going to be amazing And then I found like I did nothing on my website for like six months and I couldn't get past that so A big lesson for me has been to To just do it You know and and improve as I go. So I think it's better to have A website that isn't beautiful But has the information how to contact you and has some relevant information And then as I go I'll tweak it and make it better So I can still have that picture of what I wanted to be like But that it won't stop me from from doing it And so I've been trying to bring that into You know all the aspects of my work and that's been difficult um Because it's it's work in progress And whenever I find myself not doing something I realize it's because Wanting to have a certain standard or perfection stopping me. Um, and then I just have to go. Okay I'm just I'm just going to do it anyway. So that's been one of my big lessons really Thank you for sharing. Yeah, absolutely It in the act of creation and this is probably true with with music too You know, it's like We hear a professional musician and we're like, oh gosh, look look where I am at You know, how is that even possible? But then step by step as we practice it gets better and better sound a little bit closer and closer To what we hear the professionals doing and same thing with websites. Yeah, it's not how can we expect? You know We're especially we're creating our own website. How can we expect it to look like a professionals? You know when we're just starting out. But yes, like you said, you know Realizing hey, at least people need to find how to contact us At least they need to see what the information is for our upcoming event You know, just start with the basics and then we'll add more Features or add more design Sophistication or something over time. So yeah, thank you for thank you for saying that um, I'd love to talk about your work and There are three things, you know, we introduce in your bio and just maybe you could touch on each of these a little bit We'll save the sound healing for last because that's you're going to give us an example or an example of that Okay, what is angel card readings? What is that? What is that and how? Yeah, tell us more about that Okay, well There are angels trying to give us messages All the time in many different ways and it doesn't have to be with cards but if we tune in and ask for help that I believe that help is given to us and and we'll get little signs of encouragement and They're they can be totally personal to us and we can have this really personal relationship with our angels and When we're looking for messages They have to make sense to us so it's something resonate with us and We'll know in our hearts. Yes. This is a message and it doesn't work if you tell someone else it's skeptical or what? You know it's a skeptic and they go. Ah, yeah, but you know, this is a coincidence It's not for them. It's for it's for your own for your own connection But the angel cards are just um, a really Nice tool that help us connect So it makes it a little bit easier for like the translation because sometimes we're just like we're not able to see the signs and we can just ask a simple question and pick an angel card quite often we'll get A card that really resonates and makes a lot of sense Or we can just use it as a tool a daily tool For the day starting your day And what what what do I need to know to the day or what's something I can focus on? so You can use the cards like that. So I've been using I've been Doing angel card readings now for the last few years and I trained with reverend elvia and in online and It's been it's been an amazing journey and I've also been doing the sound healing kind of at the same time. So I was offering the two Services separately, but I noticed that a lot of times the people are coming for a reading um They can be very polarized because something big has happened or they want a yes-no answer But more than that, they want the right answer. They know what they want the answer to be So in some ways then there's a maybe people can be closed to What the angels what the message might be? Because it might come in the form that they want it might be what they want to hear and the readings I do are very Um gentle and empowering. So it's never like oh you have to do this or You know, it's it's not like that at all But it just it's it's to kind of get an insight because I think when we're When we're preoccupied with our own stuff We can't get any perspective. It's really hard to see another perspective And I think that's where the angel cards readings can come in handy Because they just shine the light in another place And they they shine the light on you and what you can do because sometimes we're in a situation and we feel Empowered and we're talking about another person and what they're doing and how they're making your life miserable or whatever And really it's about bringing it back to ourselves. Are we attracting and what do we want to attract? and Why might certain patterns and relationships Um be happening in our lives and what can we do and to help that? And usually that that's kind of connected to the chakra work as well And it'll be looking at where this balance needed in different places. So it's it's very gentle kind of guidance um and then I found that When I did sound healing first and then People were really relaxed. They were really open even when they had come Mainly for the reading and weren't that interested in the sound healing. They were just very receptive and Rather than sometimes I'd say would you like to ask a question or would you just like to hear about the angels have to say to you? And quite often they'd say oh, I'll just hear what the angels have to say And that's really nice then because there's no um This this kind of you're taking the agenda off and you still get the same answer, you know And but and it resonates. It makes sense um So that's why I I I now offer sound healing and angel cards readings together because they can't They it they're like two different parts that kind of come together to give you a better insight really into what's going on with yourself and it's part of the Connecting to yourself when you're in that safe space Yeah, and I think that's one of the things that makes you unique is the combination of these two modalities you might say to heal transform guide give insights so Let's actually take the rest of time Or some of the rest of the time just a couple minutes for you to show us a bit about sound healing. So um before this before we started you mentioned about maybe balancing our chakras using vowel sounds so Teach us. Yeah Okay, so um Just I just say just a couple of words about about sound healing in case um Someone hasn't heard of it before so it's basically using sound in um in a therapeutic way So it's kind of beyond music. It's it's incorporating music obviously, but it's it's coupling intention and Sound the vibration of sound and the combination is really powerful And it works on all levels of the body It works mental emotional spiritual Levels so it really is powerful and I suppose how well I was attracted to it more because it's it's um It's really profound in the spiritual level and for emotional And clearing and it can really help with that. It can get to the core of issues And in my sessions, I love to talk to people and I love to put space where they feel safe and if they want to talk That's perfect. They can and they can do that But some people don't want to talk. They're very private or something terrible has happened to them And they just don't want to talk about it. And that's absolutely fine. I don't need to um Have them speak because I'm setting an intention in the session for their healing and for their highest good And the sounds that are best for them. I ask to come through me And sometimes they'll sound really nice and sometimes they'll be quite strong They won't necessarily be nice, but it'll be the tones and the sounds that are that are needed and I just trust that the right sounds will come through for the right person and that sense they um They Um, they just get to just get to relax And and sometimes emotions will come up and they might be able to put a name on it And that's fine too because we're not trying to go into our heads And the sound just goes in where it's needed and it can it can do some really beautiful healing So usually at the start of A session I'll work through the chakras. So I'll be balancing the chakras and there's various different ways of doing that but when it easiest ways To do it is using the vowel the sounds. So we take the o or a e and and then and kind of a high pitched o for the for the crown chakra So we're starting down in the base chakras and and working up. So we're using the the seventh chakra system and It's I'll I'll demonstrate it now And and when I'm doing it, it will be balancing your chakras Basically, and anyone who's listening it Just listening to it will balance your chakras and the other thing is you can do this It's so simple like you can do this yourself. So or you can you can relisten And and it will do it the same thing, but it's something this The kind of almost the magical thing about sound healing is that there isn't anything Magical about it in so far as anyone can do it. It's just a matter of of claiming it I'm doing it. So it's I think it's a very nice practice to do for yourself And you can do it on any note Um, and you can do it like if you find one chakra is a bit stalker Or you're enjoying it then you can just keep going for a little bit longer Um, but today I'm just going to do I'm going to do three breath on each chakra And unless I feel drawn to do it longer on any particular one So will I just do that then? Yeah, that's great. And we've got about five minutes. So yeah, just Yeah, whatever we can do that time is great Yeah, perfect So if you you might want to close your eyes And take a nice deep breath Just like to take three nice deep breaths To start to wriggle your fingers and toes When you're ready, open your eyes. Thank you Claire I you have done some sound work with virtually with people over the internet. Yeah Yeah, yeah, and it's worked most of the time Yeah, yeah, I have a slightly different setup for that. But I I use I use zoom as well and And yeah, so I love I love working online with people Because it's amazing how much we can connect even When we're not in the same room and I can still um Feel into what what's going on for them And I also give an audio I record The sessions and I the sessions are recorded on an audio recorder So it won't it won't have any um sometimes it can be Not quite as good going through the internet But um the recording I will send out is is a is a better version That's great. Yeah, thank you for your work I will be sure to put the link to your website your facebook page so that people can check it out you have A monthly sound bath and that's through the internet as well And you have a different setup. I think it's more optimal than probably today's connection So I encourage folks who are watching this you want to experience that check that out It's in the link below And claire, thank you so much for being part of this call Oh, you're very welcome. Thank you very much for having me Take care