James Charles and Toddie Westbrook have had a little bit of a dispute going on very publicly. And most recently James Charles' mother even got involved and there's even more videos being made about that. And as somebody who sits here and analyzes YouTube culture, I think there's definitely something that we need to talk about and what we learn about what this says about where humanity is at today. What is up everybody? This is Chris from the Rewired Soul where we talk about the problem but focus on the solution and if you're new to my channel, sometimes what I like to do is take a look at the YouTube community and try to turn this mess into a message. So if you're into that stuff, make sure you subscribe and ring that notification bell.  Let's say you have a friend and both you and your friend go and apply for a job. You both get this job. You two have been friends for a while now you're both working in the same place. Alright? Maybe you had a friend who was working at a place and then they got you the job. Well you two are working together, everything's all honky-dory and your friend does something that kind of upsets you. Now imagine this.  Alright? Like think about that for a second. So if you're not caught up to speed about what's going on with Tati Westbrook and James Charles, that's kind of like what happened. Okay? So here's a little rundown of the story. James Charles was at Coachella and there was some gummy vitamin place that like provided him with some additional security. He ended up promoting them on his Instagram story. And then Tati Westbrook made a very sad kind of hurt Instagram story being upset about this. Alright? And since then James Charles made an apology. He just kind of wrote a note on an Instagram story and that was kind of like the end of it. But then James Charles mom got involved, apparently she was like liking tweets or comments defending James Charles. So like I do want to talk about how this is just like, it's just fascinating to me and I'm going to talk about myself in a minute because don't worry.  I'm going to give myself the business as well. But like just like, isn't it weird where we're at as a society today? Like I've tried to like step back a little and just kind of really look at what everybody's doing and look at what I've been doing. But like these two are or we're friends. They have each other's phone numbers. They have each other's phone numbers and then this just got put into the public spotlight. Like we're in a place where this is just happening and it's not even like I was talking to somebody else about this and they're like, yeah, you know, like public relationships and public public breakups. That to me makes a little bit more sense because everybody's kind of alone for that ride and then when they break up, like people want to know. But this situation between Toddie Westbrook and James Charles could have been handled 1000% off camera. All right. But think about it too. Like just a few months ago and some people, you know, still believe it might have been some fake beef, but KSI and Deji, those two are freaking brothers. All right. And all this stuff just happened publicly and it was mainly Deji KSI kind of tried his best to just like squash it and whatever. But like Deji just kept making videos and kept making videos. In my opinion, like I this video is kind of like about response videos and these public like videos and like looking back at my own history, I'm like, I'm somewhat embarrassed about the way I've acted in the past with some of my response videos. And it's something that I'm like trying to not do in the future because there is going to be more criticisms of me and things like that in the future. It's inevitable. You know what I mean? But I'm going to try to handle it off camera or just not even engage in it. You know what I mean? Because the way I see it, the way I see it when I see these YouTube response videos, it is like this ultimate kind of like confirmation that you're justified in your feelings. Like when you get into an argument with your friends, like let's say you have a friend group and you get into an argument with your friends or another person in your friend group, you're going to try to justify your feelings through that group of friends, right? They did this to me. Here's how I feel. This is what they did, right? And you want them to agree with you. Meanwhile, the other friend is going to do the same thing with the friend group, right? But in YouTube culture on such a massive scale, it's so much different because it seems like this ultimate craving and need for like validation, trying to get tens of thousands of people, if not millions like in Tati Westbrook and James Charles case, millions of people to be on your side. You are just like, hey, validate the way I'm feeling. Help me feel justified in believing that that person is wrong and my feelings are valid, right? Like this is something that we all do, right? But what we're seeing in YouTube is like it on such a massive and public scale, which is very fascinating to me. But here's the thing too, like during like my own time off and just kind of something that I've just been finding myself in is a lot of you don't realize this or maybe you do, but there are a lot of little like niche communities on YouTube where they are just constantly making these like back and forth response videos. And it's just like having like your audience versus their audience. There's people who like this channel more than this channel. So we'll have this person's back and not that person's back. And I'm sitting down like, what is happening? Like I followed this one story of like probably like five or six really small YouTubers just all making videos about one another. And then thanking their audiences for having their back and other people were getting upset and everything. I'm like, I'm like, where whatever happened to just communicating with one another. You know what I mean? So like I said, when I look back at like my own behaviors, I'm like, what am I doing? And I think the part that bugs me about my own actions and just seeing this from like people like Toddy Westbrook and James Charles and just a lot of other YouTubers is the the influence we have on smaller creators. The influence we have on the audience.  Am I to blame for this? Are other YouTubers to blame for this? Because a lot of people model behaviors, right? If you're a child, you end up growing up and modeling the behavior of your parents or your older siblings, right? So when you have these smaller creators on YouTube, they're looking at bigger creators like, OK, if I want to succeed, I need to follow in that path. So I see it as bigger creators and I'm by no means a big creator in my mind.  And that's why I look at things that I've done. I'm like, whoa, right? And something that I'm just going to keep saying. But like wisdom is taking your knowledge and putting it into action, right? Like all of us can have knowledge. All of us can have common sense. Like I shouldn't, you know, do this. I shouldn't do that. But do you do it? Do you not do it, right? So I want you to think about that. And I would love to hear from you guys as the audience as well. Like how do you feel when you get involved in it? Because something that I noticed even with some of the other videos that I had in the past was like I was contributing to like splitting audiences. Because most people, I'd say 99.9% of people are subscribed to more than one YouTuber, right? So what happens when two of your favorite creators are against each other? Now you feel like you've got to pick sides. And some of it, when I see it, like even with Toddie Westbrook and James Charles, when I see it, it almost seems to me like, you know, a kid whose parents are getting divorced and their parents are at each other's throats. Like which side do you choose? Why do there need to be sides? Like what I respect about I'm Alex and Jackmate is they squash their beef very quickly. Like they shared a lot of the same subscribers and very quickly they got together. They did a podcast together and they talked it out and they squashed it. Which I wish would kind of happen more often or just settle things off camera. Like if you get back to the origin of what happened between I'm Alex and Jackmate, like Jack, you know, when he saw that and he was hurt by Alex or didn't agree with what Alex was doing, should have just messaged him, right? But you see people making these entire videos on it. And here's the thing, and here's what's screwed up about this cycle is. And I would love to hear your thoughts down below. Like at what point do you need to defend yourself though, right? Like at what point because somebody, somebody is always the instigator. There's usually always an instigator. There's the person who fires the first shot, right? So the question is, at what point does the other person need to publicly address it and defend themselves if there's false information? Or like in James Charles case, he tried to, you know, explain, you know, he tried to apologize and explain, but like he was put in a position where he had to do so. So in my mind, and as I'm trying to grow as a creator and change the way I do things, like I'm trying to like figure this stuff out and, you know, maybe you can give me your input in the comments below. Like at what point does a person need to defend themselves? I saw this happen just a couple of weeks ago, one of my favorite creators. They were attacked by somebody else who had almost like a million subscribers. And I was like, huh, you know, should this smaller creator defend themselves? You know what I mean? It's just, it's really, really interesting to me. But again, like more so, I just want you guys to like kind of think of where we're at as a society in 2019 with social media, especially with YouTube culture. And like call out videos and response videos and everything like that. Like if you, if you put this into your real life in like these real life scenarios, would this be socially acceptable? Is it more socially acceptable now? Like the analogy I gave, like about being in a workplace. Like, you know what I mean? Like when I put it in those kind of terms in my mind, I'm just like, it just doesn't really make sense, you know? So anyways, I would love to know your thoughts on this topic down in the comments below. If you liked this video, please give it a thumbs up. If you're new, make sure you subscribe and ring that notification bell because I make a ton of videos and a huge, huge thank you to everybody supporting the channel over on Patreon. You're all amazing. And if you would like to get involved in our monthly Q&A, get some other perks and benefits and help support the channel, you can click or tap on that Patreon icon right there. All right. Thanks again so, so much for watching. I'll see you next time.


The Kraft Foods Company, makers of Kraft Oil, that wonderful salad and cooking oil presents Willard Waterman as the Great Gildersleeve. The Great Gildersleeve is brought to you transcribed by the Kraft Foods Company. There's great news this evening for every family that loves popcorn. Just to prove to you that the easy, delicious way to fix homemade popcorn is with Kraft Oil, the Kraft folks will give you a package of Jolly Time Popcorn. The popcorn is wrapped around the neck of every bottle of Kraft Oil, and it's absolutely free when you buy the oil at your grocers. Get your gift package of popcorn tomorrow when you buy Kraft Oil. Of course it wasn't for Mr. Gildersleeve, it's a day off. Of course I get my regular day off, but when I want to actually do it takes a little maneuver. Brady don't ask anybody for it, she just works it around so they give it to her. I had my campaign all mapped out in Mr. Gildersleeve's table. Hello, Bertie. Hello, Mr. Gildersleeve. Has the paper come? Yes, sir. The paper's right by the cigar that Bertie put there on that table sitting by your easy chair in front of which she put your slippers. Well, thank you, Bertie. You've been busy. Yes, sir. Bertie's been busy today. She cleaned the house, done the washing, done the mending. She's fine. Let me see what the headline says. And on top of that, Bertie's done the week's marketing and washed the woodwork. Good for you. Yes, sir. If Bertie puts in a day tomorrow like she has today, she won't have a thing to do by Friday. Oh? And there won't be anybody here to cook dinner for Friday. There won't? No, sir. Because Friday is the day all you folks go to Judge Hooker's for his annual dinner. Zeke. I'd forgotten about the judge's annual dinner for the little family. Yes, sir. Friday's the day. And Bertie'll have all the work done and nobody to cook for and she'll be sitting here all alone with nothing to do. That's right. Bertie, why don't you take Friday off? Thank you, sir. Hardworking, unselfish.  And I'm glad you reminded me of the judge's dinner. He'd be very offended if we forgot. Hi, Uncle. Hello, Holy Roy. Hello, Uncle Mark. Marjorie. Nice to see you, my dear. I was wondering where Leroy was. I've been over to Marjus. Oh? Visiting with your sister? Visiting. He comes to eat. Well, I just happened to bump into half a chocolate cake in the kitchen. I'm glad you came over, Marjorie. I hope you and Leroy haven't forgotten Judge Hooker's annual dinner. Oh, grown. Oh, is that nice? Well, you have to admit, Anki, that the judge's dinners aren't much fun. Well, they are to him. Well, he can have my plate of chicken fricassee. Well, I'll have twice as much fun. Young man, that'll do. I'm not fond of his fricassee either, but I... Gee, I've forgotten about it, Anki. Has the judge called? No, but he counts on us every year. Forgetting this dinner would be like forgetting Thanksgiving. With a Thanksgiving, you get your turkey whole. Not chopped up chicken held together with a lot of gooey fricassee. That's enough kidding, Leroy. Who's kidding? The judge will say, well, shall we repair to the power? Don't remind us. Gee, I wonder if by some stroke of good luck the judge has forgotten. He hasn't contacted me yet. Well, I sure he called last night and invited us. If I can get by today, I'll know what you forgot about it. I wonder if Pee-Dee's seen the judge in the last day or so. Hello, Pee-Dee. I don't know, Mr. Jonas Lee. What can I do for you this morning? Baby, have you seen Judge Hooker recently? No. Now, are you looking for him? Not exactly. As a matter of fact, I'll be happy if I don't see him until after tomorrow night. You'll find tomorrow night? Well, it's the judge's dinner for the little family. Oh, my, my. The judge is a fine, sentimental gentleman. Yes, he is.  Yeah, I can understand that. And how often can you look at old faithful? Well, I look at Mrs. Pee-Dee every morning. Why, Pee-Dee? That's the term of endearment, Mr. Gillies-William. Mrs. Pee-Dee's had my breakfast ready promptly at 7.30 every morning for 30 years. That's what I call faithful. Well, that's wonderful. Yeah, and I have to get up and eat it whether I want it or not. Oh. There's the judge getting out of his car now. Say, he's coming in here. Well, this is it, Pee-Dee. No, I can't do it. Well, he invites us. We'll just have to accept it. Greetings, gentlemen. Uh-huh, John. Hello, Horace. Gilday, I haven't seen you in quite a while. Well, we've both been busy, Judge. I said to myself the other night, I wonder how Gilday and Marjorie and Leroy are getting along. I don't see them often enough. Well, we were talking about you the other night, too. Oh? Mr. Gillies, they were talking about you just a minute ago. Then you haven't forgotten me, have you, old friend? Judge, our little family could never forget you. Well, I've wondered. Sometimes, as children grow up, they lose interest in their more elderly friends. Oh, not us, Judge. I wasn't talking about you, Gilday. I was talking about Marjorie and Leroy. But they love you dearly, Horace. Well, I'd love both of you dearly if you'd buy something. I do need a package of razor blades, Pee-Dee. I'll just take one off the counter here. Very well. You have to get to my office now. Gilday, is there anything on your mind that you'd like to tell me since you haven't seen me in quite a while? Nothing I can think of, Horace. What about you? No, I suppose there's nothing to say. Goodbye, Pee-Dee. Come again, Judge. Thank you. Goodbye, Gilday. See you around, Judge. He didn't say a word about the dinner, Pee-Dee. He didn't pray for the razor blades, either. But I'll put him on your boat. You know, I don't think I like the Judge's attitude. Well, you should like it very much. Well, I won't say I was exactly looking forward to going. But it's pretty inconsiderate of him not to invite us. How's that? Well, it boils down to one or two things. The Judge either forgot about our traditional dinner, which is a terrible insult, or he doesn't want us, which is worse. Well, Mr. Gilday, if I should think you'd be very happy over this turn of events. Well, we kid a lot. But you don't just toss a fine old tradition out the window, Pee-Dee. You were open to another Judge throughout. I can see it all now. The old ghost's been planning to sneak out of his obligation. Yeah? I gave him every chance to invite us. I know what I'll do now. I'll make a date with Grace Tuttle for tomorrow night. You don't change. And if Hooker's conscience bothers him, and he decides to invite us at the last minute, I'll tell him I forgot about his stuffy old dinner. My, my. And my conscience won't bother me a bit. No, no, I wouldn't say that. And the Judge giving us the brush off. Well, it's going to work out all right. We hope Grace is home. I'll set up the date right now. Oh, hello, Dr. Osmore. Hello, Grace. I thought I'd run by and take a chance on your being home from school. I was just about to leave. Oh? I have to go to Hogan Brothers and do some shopping. Well, I'll drive you down. Well, it'll be wonderful. We teachers have so little time. Let's go. And I just didn't want to miss this sale. Say, I see your ankle seems to be all right after you sprinted in my attic last week. Oh, it's fine. Either way, I'm sorry to hear that, Grace. What? It was a lot of fun carrying you down the attic stairs. Oh, Trock Morton. May I carry you down the porch steps? I can carry. It's a long way. Two whole steps. Come on, Trock Morton. Well, lift you into the car. Oh, stop it. I've never seen such a would-be athlete. Or did you see the first Robin today? It just isn't that springs are on the corner. Well, if you are so anxious to do manual labor, you may carry my packages for me. Well, I have my price. Oh. How about a date tomorrow night? A date tomorrow night? Well, let's see. There are several things I plan to do. If you hadn't asked me to go out. Hi, George. This is going to be better than sitting around with an old goat. Grace, go park the car. All right, I'll meet you at the information desk. All right. Anything on your shopping list I can get for you? Well, I want three pairs of 51 gauge, 15 to near nylon hose in that liquid amber shade. I'll just meet you at the information desk. I'll see you in a few minutes. While he's parking the car, I'll have time to look at handbags. I do hope everything isn't picked over. Hello there, Miss Tuttle. Why, Judge Hooker, don't tell me you're buying some pretty girl a purse. As a matter of fact, I am. You know Gildy's niece, Marjorie, of course. Yeah. Do you think she'd like this one? Well, I know I would. It's adorable. Well, I'd buy you one, too, but I'm afraid Gildy would get jealous. Yes, you know he might. After I'm waited on here, I must get something for Leroy, too. Is it a special occasion? It once was. Oh, I didn't mean to pry. Oh, not at all. As a matter of fact, I'm glad you asked me because you're such a dear friend of Gildy. What is it, Judge? Every year on February 12, Gildy, Sleeve, Marjorie, Leroy, and I have gotten together for dinner. You see, I'm the children's godfather. I didn't know that. Yes, it was I who turned them over to Gildy years ago. But I'm afraid they've outgrown me. Oh, you shouldn't say that, Judge. Well, Throckmorton is very fond of you. Well, last year at my house, I detected a change. I could see they were no longer interested in the simple pleasures that I was able to provide. You poor dear. As we said goodbye, we made our plans again for this year. But I'm afraid they were hallowed. Well, I don't see how Throckmorton could forget an occasion like that. Well, I saw him this morning. I gave him every opportunity, and he didn't choose to bring it up. So I will carry on the tradition in my own way. I'll just quietly take my gifts of devotion to the children who got them by the house. I'm their godfather, you know. Now, if you'll excuse me. Certainly, Judge. Goodbye, Mr. Throckmorton. Goodbye. Throckmorton peed Gildy's sleeve. How could he treat nice old Judge Hooker that way? How could he be so callous? Excuse me. Pardon me, please. Well, hello, Grace. Don't you hello me. Who's that? Throckmorton, how can you be so inconsiderate? Me? Yeah, I've been waiting here for you. Well, you can just wait from now on. You've been great. Goodbye, you ingrate. What did I do? Gildy's sleeve will be back in just a minute. Popcorn's a treat almost any time, but doesn't it taste best of all when the whole family's together on a winter evening and the corn comes freshly popped from your own kitchen? That's why for a short time the Kraft folks are making a very special offer. 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I drive Grace down-down to do her shopping. A lot of my way to be nice to her.  I don't know how a girl can change so much between the parking lot and the information desk. You must be a misunderstanding. I judge all corners and demand an explanation. Maybe I shouldn't demand it, but I'll ask for it. Is that you, Anki? Hello, Marjorie. I didn't know you were here. Well, I've been waiting to see you. What is it, my dear? Have you seen Judge Hooker yet? Yes, I saw him this morning at PD's. Well, did he invite us to dinner? He didn't say a thing about it. That's strange. You know, I gave him every chance to bring it up. As a matter of fact, I'm a little offended that the judge would forget a fine old tradition like our dinner. Well, he hasn't forgotten the occasion, Anki, because I found a present from him at my door when I came home from the market.  Knick-knack? This time it's a genuine alligator bag. Well, he was always fond of you. That's why I can't understand why the old goat didn't invite us. I wish you'd stop calling him an old goat. Well, Marjorie, they've always called him that. Sort of a term of endearment. You're such old friends, Anki. Why didn't you ask the judge what the matter was when you saw him this morning? Well, Marjorie, I can't just invite us to his house. Oh, excuse me a moment. I have to make an important phone call. Grace is upset with me, and I don't know why. She bawled me out in Hogan Brothers right in front of everybody. How? Hmm, because she isn't home. I made a date to take her out to dinner tomorrow night. Oh, well. Anki. Yes, Marjorie? You mean to tell me you made a date with your girl for tomorrow night? Well, yes. So that's why you don't want to go to the judges. But I... If this family can't give one evening out of the year to a man who is as nice to me as Judge Hooker was today, I don't know what we're coming to. You're Marjorie. I thought we'd all agreed that unless the judge invited us. And if he had, what would you have said? That you didn't want to come? No. That you had a date with the girl? Yes. No. Well, anyway, you're certainly fixing. Hmm. I don't know what I did, but I did it again. Come to think of it, the old judge was cool toward me and Pee-Pee's. I wonder if I offended him in some way. I'd hate to do that. Hi, hon. Hello, Leroy. No, I've had no word from him. So you can go to a movie or do anything you like. Gosh, I'm kind of sorry we aren't going to the judges. You are? There's something funny about all this, honk. The judge came by today. Yeah, he was by Marjorie's, too. Yeah, we both got swell presents. Look, he left me a new wallet with $5 inside. Well, very handsome, Leroy. Gosh. I wish I hadn't said what I did about going to the judges. Well, the other day you seemed to feel that the judge's fricassee in stereoscope were a little too much for an active boy. Well, I've been thinking about that. Being all faithful again wouldn't be so bad. Stuff like that might help me in my geography. Well, it's a high recommendation for the slides. But I guess we'll have to forget about them this year. And I suppose the judge has his reasons for not inviting us. Excuse me. Yes, Bertie? I thought I'd tell you I talked to the judge when he came by this afternoon. You did? Yes, sir. That poor man. What did he say? It wasn't so much what he said as the downcast way he looked. Somebody's done that poor man wrong. Confounded, Bertie. Don't blame me. He didn't invite us. Oh, nobody's blaming nobody. All I said was somebody's done that poor man wrong. Oh, my goodness. Would everybody feel better if I humble myself? Go to the judge, hat in hand, and say, Judge, we don't understand why you didn't invite us to your confounded dinner this year. Please, may we come? Why don't you, honky? It sure would be nice if you could make the judge happy. Well, it's eating a lot of crow.  Let me see if you were here. Oh, I did. You can quite anxiously talk to him. Well, if he's going to bring up the matter of our annual gathering at this late date, I'm no longer interested. Did he say what he wanted? No. Well, you might have asked him, Peter. No, I didn't do that to him. I have no desire to meet Gildy face to face. But I'd like to know what's on his mind if he has one. You've worked up quite a head of steam, Jen. Peter, my attitude is one of righteous indignation. Well, here's your chance to be indignant. What? Mr. Gildy's coming across the street. I don't want to see him. Well, you have to meet him sometime. This town's too small for both of you. Well, to avoid unpleasantness, I'll just step into your phone booth if you don't mind. Well, whatever you do, don't tell him I'm here. Well, I won't tell him. Be amusing him, Mr. Gildy. He's coming in here to use your phone booth. Hello, Peter. Hello, Mr. Gildy. You haven't seen the judge, have you? Yeah. Oh? Was he in here? Yes, he was. Well, when did he leave? Well, that's a difficult question. What do you mean? Oh, it'll stick. I don't want to keep a stopwatch on him. Well, I have a feeling he's trying to avoid me. Well, it could be. If you'd care to use the phone booth, you might get in touch with him. No, I've phoned his home in office. Nobody knows where he is. You don't say. I'm about to give up. Well, I can say if you'd care to use the phone booth. Yeah, I've tried the phone. Yeah, I've tried this one. Thank you. Oh, my goodness. Well, you seem anxious to get in touch with him. Well, I am. Well, we don't serve it here at the apartment. How's that? Perhaps I should have brought up the judge's annual dinner the other day. Marjorie and Lee Roy are upset about it. Yeah, I guess we don't realize how deeply rooted family traditions are. I know. If you'll excuse me, I have a call to make on my pharmacy phone over here. All right, go right ahead, P.D. What's the number of that phone in the booth? Oh, yeah. I bet the judge will jump when the phone rings in his ear. Somebody's calling your phone booth. Yeah, well, somebody'll answer it. All right, that's a man. It's for you, Mr. Gollick Lee. For me? Yeah, but you made the call. Yeah, but I think the gentleman wants to talk to you. Oh? Hello? You must have the wrong number. This is a public telephone booth. Judge, what are you doing on the line? Is that you, Gollick? Yes, it's me. Oh, Baldadash. Judge, where are you? I'm in Phoebe's Pharmacy.  That's where you are. I'm in Phoebe's Pharmacy. Well, let's not quibble. I'll come out. He hung up on me. Remember how he says he's coming out? What's going on here? Is this your idea of a prank, Gollick? No, it's mine. Well, I guess Phoebe was just trying to get us together, Judge. Well, I did my best to avoid the meeting. Oh, Horace, what's the matter? What's the matter? You didn't invite us to dinner this year. For the first time. I was waiting for you to invite me. Why should we invite you? Maybe one of you fellas didn't get in the phone booth again. Wait a minute, Phoebe. There must be some misunderstanding. Go on, Judge. Gilday, last year at our party, you suggested we have it this year at your house. I did? How could I have forgotten that? I was a little hurt, but I agreed. I felt that you and the children were outgrowing my simple hospitality. Oh, no, Judge. If you mean those old faithful slides, Leo, I was asking about them just today. He was. But I could tell Gilday that you weren't eating my dinner with your usual gusto. Your chicken fricassee? Judge is my favorite dish. Hmm. It is? Well, it isn't too late for me to plan the dinner. Oh, no, no, no. You've come to our house. I invited you. All right, if you will. You bet. This happened to think. I gave Birdie the day off. How? Gentlemen, may I make a suggestion? What is it, Phoebe? That Phoebe's pharmacy provided the dinner. Oh. That's very nice of you, Phoebe. I know, Mr. Gilday. I'm happy to be able to get you two together. My George, everything's turned out great. At dinner, why don't we celebrate with Phoebe? Chicken fricassee. May Gilday's leave will be back in just 30 seconds. This is the last announcement of Kraft Oil's sensational popcorn offer now featured at your grocers.  The Kraft folks make this offer to urge you to discover that the easy way to get fluffy, tender popcorn every time is the Kraft Oil way. Prove it tomorrow.  I want to thank you for providing that fine dinner last night. Well, I enjoyed dealing with you. You know, that was the master stroke, inviting Grace Tuttle to join us. Gave me a chance to explain my misunderstanding with the judge. I'm glad, Mr. Gilday. Miss Tuttle is the most attractive young woman. Yeah. You know, last night, I didn't even mind the judge's stereoscopic slides again. What do you think of him, Pee-Dee? I didn't see him. I was looking at Miss Tuttle. 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ght now, I am in great awe of the Art and Culture Commission and how they continue to provide things for this city and how they continue to grow. But like I said, one thing that they have that no other commission has is they have a budget that's funded by continuing revenue. And the thing is, is we're not trying, this is not an attack on, I believe in my heart that not one thing different will happen to the Art and Culture Commission other than they may have someone they report to that finally has a boss. But that's why I'm here. I'm trying to move this process forward to where we can enable our recreation director to meet with these people, find out what their concerns are and then come back to us with an action plan instead of realizing that this is what our job is, is to lead the city. And so I'm at a loss why we can't move forward with this. Thank you. Okay. I'm going to take an opportunity, if I may, to say a couple words. I would first like to say, Nikki, since you've been here, I've seen incredible improvements in our recreation department. The after school program, the food truck event was really exciting and I've wanted to see some kind of food truck event in Capitola since forever. So you've done amazing work and I know that there's only going to be more amazing work that you're doing here. I can't thank you enough for what you've done for your department and for the city as a whole. I share several of the concerns with Vice Mayor Brooks and with Councilman Story. I don't think this is a bad plan. I think this is a good plan but I am concerned about moving forward when some stakeholders haven't been included. The Art and Cultural Commission would be the most apparent one to me that needs to be acknowledged. I also received comments from members of the BIA who were concerned about what does this mean for permits for the SIP and stroll or for, and I didn't have answers for them. There weren't answers that I knew. There weren't answers in the recreation plan. So I would almost venture to suggest that there would be a public meeting in regard to this, that other business owners, that other people who come to get permits or other special event that there's more opportunity for more individuals who will be impacted or could be impacted to at the very least, as mentioned, receive a presentation, ask some questions and say this is what we think about that. Again, I don't think this is an opportunity for anyone to say sorry, I don't like it. That's not ever gonna happen. I would be ready to approve this if I felt that the Art and Cultural Commission and other stakeholders had a chance to at least weigh in and then even if they came to us and said, I don't like it, I could at least know that they had had an opportunity, that they'd given their feedback, that they felt that they were heard so that that does concern me. Now, I would like us to consider how we would want to move forward because we could consider sitting here for another half hour going back and forth with point and counterpoint with each other. I think we all agree that Nikki does a great job. Our recreation department is fantastic and we're looking forward to eventually coming to a recreation strategic plan that we can all agree on and vote for. However, I don't think that we should continue, I am of the personal belief that continued debate is not going to get us any further than we already are and I'm ready to call the question. Call the question. Okay. All right, we have a motion and a second and a substitute motion and a substitute second. So, there was a request to amend. I don't know if that was a request for a friendly amendment. That wasn't really, that was never made? That was never made. No. She didn't accept it. She didn't accept it. I just want to put a time limit in it. She didn't accept it. She didn't accept that amendment for a motion. There's not enough clarity for that. Okay, so the council should first vote on the substitute motion. Okay, can we get a roll call vote? What's the substitute motion, please? Substitute motion is to postpone the vote on the strategic plan until such time as the Arts and Cultural Commission has had a chance to hear a presentation about the plan. Yes. Council member Story. With the addition of the staff will come back regarding the dedicated children's funds. Oh, I thought that was pulled and going to be in the budget process. It was that, are you comfortable with bringing that back at budget time, budget? Or does it maybe? I don't think there's any action required. I'll be bringing that back as part of the budget. Okay, wonderful, thank you. Council member Story. Aye. Council member Brooks. Aye. Council member Botthorff. No. Council member Bertrand. Aye. Council member Peterson. Aye. Okay, so that moves the first motion. Okay. Thank you. Okay. Okay. I need a second. Sure. We are going to take a two minute, three minute break and then for bathroom and water and deep breaths and then we will return. And chocolate. Oh, there's M&M's in there. Yeah. Oh, it's good. Yeah. I don't like it. No. Are we ready to return? All right. We are going to, we're going to continue our meeting now with item 10C. Item 10C, consider approval of emergency contract for repairs to the damaged wharf hoist area. Good evening, mayor and council. So quick background, just as I'm sure you're aware on January 1st, two pilings broke under the small boat hoist on the wharf. Emergency work was completed at that time in order to prevent the hoist and the surrounding structure from catastrophic failure. Without that emergency work, which we completed days after that, we would have lost the hoist and the pad it sits on and a good portion of the structure underneath the wharf. But that work that we completed in January, has to be considered temporary in nature. It is no way meant to be a long-term fix. The structure itself is still in jeopardy, especially in the storm of additional failure. In addition, the hoist is unoperable until repairs are made and it provides a significant impact to the boat and bait shop on the wharf. Just a reminder, this is what that failed area looks like. These are the two piles that are supposed to be straight up and down that are in a bent right now. And you can see the sag in the wharf underneath. This is the crane right here, and you can see it sag. So even though we have stabilized this, that sag remains as today. We've just prevented it from failing completely for a moment. So engineers from Moffett and Nickel who are wharf engineers and power engineering have been working, trying to help us to resolve this problem. When we've done pile replacements in the past, it's been a pretty simple process. The pile breaks, wharf doesn't settle a great deal. They're able to go out there with a pile driver, drive a new pile, put it under the existing structure. There's no 10 tons of crane and ballast sitting underneath it. So it was pretty straightforward and easy fix, not necessarily economic or cheap, but it was straightforward. The presence of the hoist has changed the complexity quite a bit. So like I said, engineers from Moffett and Nickel and staff from power engineering and myself have gone through several iterations on how best to make these permanent repairs. As part of this process, we completed a dive inspection of the broken piles and some of the surrounding piles, January 21st of this year. And what that determined is it would be possible to do a sleeve over the broken piles, bring them up to about three feet from where the deck sits today, and then actually use a jack to jack the deck back into place and then seal up that jack as part of the pile. So we've looked at three options and due to the costs, which I'm sharing with you the first time and I apologize it wasn't part of the agenda report, but I received these costs yesterday. So we're kind of going through this together at this point. So option one is to sleeve the broken piles with a plastic high density polyethylene pipe and insert a steel rebar in concrete to create a concrete pile. This project has about a five to six week lead time to get all the materials. So let's get everything together. The HGP pipe is readily available to get the rebar put together and assembled in a way that can be slid into the pile is probably the longest lead time. This repair does not require a pile driver to be on site. Option two, which the contractor developed because he thought it could be most efficient is actually to drive new wood piles. This was a surprise to me because I thought we were saving money by not having to mobilize a crane, but as it turns out, sleeving the piles requires a diver to be in the water and you spend about $7,000 a day to have a diver in the water. So that's where we ended up eating costs that we not have necessarily understood when we undertook these repair options. So the cost for driving new wood piles is $166,000. Unfortunately, there's eight to 10 week lead time to get new wood piles. They have to be, they don't store them in. They need to be treated so they don't deteriorate and rot in that environment. They don't store them that way. So it's a very long lead time. The third option, which is originally what we thought we would be going with was to instead of using wood piles or the HDP piles was to slip line the broken piles with the fiberglass pile. Those fiberglass piles is what we intend to use for the upcoming rehabilitation project when we widen the wharf. This project has a six to eight week lead time, mainly again, because we're waiting for the, they don't store and stock fiberglass piles so they have to be made. I think they're made in North Carolina and so get them made, shipped out here, but it's only six to eight weeks, but that has a cost of $181,000. But this one, like I mentioned, is consistent with our restoration rehabilitation plans in that the fiberglass piles, when the first phase, you know, we're widening the trussle of the wharf and the second phase, when funding is available several years from now, was to raise the head of the wharf where the buildings are and these piles could be extended at that time to that new elevation. So it is, we do have a consistency there. Since we've kind of reviewing these costs for the first time, I did speak with the contractor and the engineer today about the costs that were developed and some of the other options are to drive fiberglass piles. So rather than slip lining, they would actually just buy new piles, fiberglass piles and drive them like they would a wood pile. This again, would be consistent. They didn't work up at cost, but it would be somewhere between the cost of the wood piles which are cheaper and installing them as a slip line, which was 181, I put 180 here, somewhere in between, say $175,000 for that project. And a third project is to actually sit down and try and refine the cost a little bit more with the contractor, excuse me, to about the fiberglass lining, sleeping with the fiberglass piles. Our engineer, Moffitt-Nickel, has done that project on several other peers along the coast and found that it was more cost-effective than perhaps power is used to. So we could sit down and make sure we understand those costs a little bit more. As part of this, we could also consider that two of the piles are underneath the hoist and absolutely need to be repaired. Third one is outside of the restaurant, while it definitely needs repair. It could be potentially deferred at this point. Again, with the fiberglass piles, we'd have a six to week aid time and we'd potentially have a cost savings from the estimated $181,000. So what we're asking you tonight is to adopt a resolution declaring an emergency with authorized procurement services without giving notice for bids, excuse the typo there, pursuant to the public contract code 22050. And that action would require a four fifth vote at the council. As part of that action, asking to authorize the city manager to enter into a contract of power engineering construction with the following, using fiberglass piles, which are consistent with the future rehabilitation project. And the reason I'm pointing that out is with this approval, we can get those ordered tomorrow or early next week. So we get that six to eight week delivery time going as quickly as we can. While we're finalizing exactly if we're gonna drive them or we're gonna slip on them and what's the most efficient way to use those piles. And I'm asking for costs not to exceed $180,000 at this time. That's my report and I'd be happy to answer any questions. Thank you. Any questions? Council member Botworth. Option 2B was for three pilings. That would be due to the one of the restaurant and the two under the hoist. Correct, thank you. Council member Bertrand, you had a question? Relative strength, five glass wood. They are equivalent. There's probably more strength in the fiberglass in that they don't do not erode and corrode or aren't subject to the environment as much as the wood piles are. So they will certainly last a lot longer and won't deteriorate over time like the wood piles do. So one thing I've often wondered about sleeves and concrete and all that sort of stuff, there's a motion with plexus and stuff like that. So would there be any forces generated because one plexus is the different way than one wood or something like that? So the concrete piles if they get driven are not filled with concrete. So they actually have a little bit more flexibility than the wood piles do. When we, if we do the slip lining then they would get filled with concrete and that's more for a horizontal or vertical structural element. I've talked to the engineer about different periods of motion for the different piles. And even if the concrete were to crack because they would be a stiffer pile than the wood piles you would still have the vertical support you needed and the concrete, and again, the fiberglass piles are structurally equivalent without any concrete to them to the wood piles. Correct, it has a strong back as we call it over the top of it now. That was the story. Steve, will the 180 cap work when I noticed the sleeve with fiberglass was estimated at 181, 538? Yeah, I think I anticipate that we're gonna be able to find some savings in there. Yeah, I'm very comfortable with that. All right, now it's time for public comment. If there's any member of the public that would like to address the council on this item now would be the time, saying none. All right, okay. I'll speak for Frank, if I may. He wants it done as quickly as possible. He needs his voice back. We all do. Okay.  Are there any comments? If you can bring back the slide for option 2B, Steve. Yeah, I'm gonna make a motion. We authorize staff to proceed with option 2B with three pylons. So you want to do all three for sure? That's three, yeah. Because three did consider possibly eliminating the one pile out by the restaurant. You know what, we're gonna bring the machinery out there and we're gonna put it in. Why put it off? Because if something else happens with that strong back we lose something else then we're in a jam again. Okay, if we're here to fix it. So I get all three can be done for 180,000. Yes. Correct. And then my motion's for option 2B. We have a motion in a second. Councilman, can we get clarification? I thought you wanted the option to either drive them or sleeve them. You want to drive them? No. Our recommendation was to give us the flexibility because I think our engineer has estimated that option, what that's option. 2B, 3B. 3B, which was the sleeving them should have been about half of that. And so we were trying to work with the contractor to figure out where the costs were. So that was why we were thinking, we're hesitant about driving the piles because we were thinking that it was about 180. And we were hoping that the sleeving option should be around 100. The bid came in higher. So we were going to try to, what we're asking the council to do is give us the authority to go up to 180. If we can't get the sleeving option down then we may need to drive, but. Okay, that wasn't clear in my motion, Sam. And I appreciate the comment there. I'm under the impression that everything is around 180,000 because I don't see another number here that says that it's going to be 100. What scares me is like other conversations we've had with something like maybe wires is that also we think it's $100,000 and then the sleeving is 150. My premise is our ultimate goal, what we want from the Wharf is five of that piles. And if we drive three now, that's three less we have to drive at some other time than some other replica. So what I'm gonna say is that if you're not able to save at least one third the cost, so I would say I'm gonna just give you a limit. If it's more than $120,000, then drive all three. Is that clear? I need it, I need it. My motion is to adopt is. Just don't give an option, just say. Well, because I can't give it because as I said, my option is say I will make a motion for option 3B unless the cost exceeds $120,000. And then in that case, go to option 2B because option 3B is only driving two and option 3B would drive three. And there was a second? So under 3B, the option was we could eliminate one of the piles, the one out in the strong back. You're only gonna try to do it. But we can do three, if we can do three for under the 100 and whatever the cost is to drive them, we would still prefer to do three. Right, I would like to give you the authorization to do 3B but you're not giving me a cost, okay? 3B says you're only gonna do two. And if I'm saying if it's gonna cost me 120 to do two, then I will pay 180 to do three. All right, that's why we're asking for the flexibility to try and work with the contractor. And what I'm telling you is if you can bring a price, my motion is approve option 2B if it's less than $120,000. If it's only two, that's fine. If you cannot get those done for less than $120,000, then the motion goes to option 2B, which is 180 for three.  If you get it for $100,000, then you proceed with anything less than 120. If I can do all three with the slip lining for under 180, can we proceed with that way? Yeah, but why not drive them for under 180? It may be cheaper to slip line three than the drive three. That's what we're trying to figure out. That's what we're still working with the contractor on. Okay, clarified. Oh, I apologize for the confusion. Difference between slip lining and driving. So when you drive a pile, you take it and put it not over an existing pile. It goes next to the existing pile. You drive it into the mud and sand, probably 10 to 15 feet until it hits refusal. So it's a longer pile, it's structurally sound from when it's up to the moment. The slip lining project, what we're doing is we're utilizing the pile that has broken, but it was still viable down at the dirt level or the sand level. That's why we did the dive inspection. We determined that that stub, if you will, is still a viable structural element that can be used as a foundation. So we would slip line and probably create a three to five foot interface between this fiberglass pile and the wood pile that's remaining and then use that as the structure from then on. And then we'd fill it with concrete so we have a continuous column connection between them. And so our new fiberglass pile is based on a wood pile that's already in the ground, which may or may not have a lifespan. It's structurally sound right now. And they don't deteriorate as quickly in the mud. I mean, the engineers, the one who said this is a very viable one, and I trust Moffat and Nicollin in this regard. You know, it's very hard for us to bid on something when there's not a cost because I'm trying to analyze something and I don't have a number and it makes it very awkward. So in option three B here, let me try this again, is the city manager said both the engineer and I were surprised the cost of sleeving with the fiberglass piles was as expensive as it was. So I was trying to find a way because the costs were so significant to do still the sleeving and find a more economical way for the city to proceed and get the hoist back open. I'm going to yield to Cal's member's story. He's got some comments. Okay, so just if I can finish quickly. I think we can work the cost with the engineer, with the contractors. We go through the project a little bit more where we can still sleeve all three projects for under the $180,000. That's one of my goals. If we can't, then we would go back to driving the three piles, which we know would be less than $180,000. I apologize, we don't have all the costs. Like I said, it's kind of as an emergency project we're going as fast as we can at this point. Thank you. If we sleeve them, will that retain its integrity when we do the war rehabilitation? In other words, they can just stay as they are sleeved and fit in with the rest of that rehabilitation work. Yes, especially out here, because part of the rehabilitation doesn't, we're not raising or changing the structure at the head of the war for the overall three of these piles are located. Right, okay. Okay, well, hearing that, I think that we should give them the option of either driving them or sleeving them with fiberglass and at the best bid that they can possibly get, but give them the option to make that determination at the time. I'm sure that they'll make the right choice. So a maximum of 180 using fiberglass? Right, yeah, they requested a maximum of 180. There's already a motion. I don't know what the motion is. Yeah, well, the motion was for 2B. I mean, can I withdraw the motion? I withdraw the motion. Thank you. Well, I'll make a new motion that we authorized staff to, oh, actually that's option 3B, right? To either drive them or sleeve the pilings, yes, with a cost not to exceed 180,000. And if they can get three for that figure, great, go for three. And I would add to the motion, if I may suggest that you add to the motion that you also adopt the resolution, which includes a declaration of emergency and authorizing procurement services without giving notice. Yes, so that's included verbatim. We have a motion. Do we have a second? I just asked a clarifying question. I think, do we need a second before we continue discussion? Okay, we need a second before we continue discussion. Do we have a second? Okay, we have a motion and a second. Discussion continues. Regarding the timeline, there was two different timelines out there depending on the options moving forward. Either we drive them or we slip cover them. The option was the timelines are more if we were using wood piles, had a eight to 10 week lead time. The fiberglass piles have a six to eight week. And we're committing to the fiberglass as part of the motions, I understand it. And so that's the timeline we'd be looking at. Okay, thank you. Any other comments? Okay, we have a motion and a second. Because this needs a four fifth vote, I'm assuming a roll call would be best. Let's do a roll call. Council member Story. Aye. Council member Brooks. Aye. Council member Bautour. Council member Petrand. Aye. And the mayor. I'm sorry, I'm doing that tonight. Aye. Thank you. It's been a long one. It's been a long one, no worries. We're gonna move on. Five hundred percent. Thank you. Item 10D, introduce an ordinance amending portions of municipal code title two. Administration to update and clarify various sections. Various sections. I'm doing the report and Jamie's doing the test. Thank you. Once you have it open, I can open it here. Okay, good evening. We are returning tonight following up on direction that was given to us at a previous meeting in January, looking to change and update some areas within title two administration. We asked for direction from three items at that time. The process, amending the process for removing a planning commission member and council added mayor removal at that time. Referring items to an advisory body and whether an advisory body chair should still have the ability to place items on a council agenda and the proposed ordinance reflects your direction on those and we'll go through those specifically. And then we also have a number of other cleanups. So the first appointment gives two options. So either the person who the council member who made the appointment can remove a planning commissioner or a majority of the council can also vote to remove a planning commissioner you are leaning toward for but ask us to write it, come back and make sure what size majority you want. So right now it's three or four council members to remove a commissioner. So our suggestion for tonight is probably work these things. At the end of the day, we're gonna need a motion to approve the first reading, pass the first reading of the ordinance. And I think rather than, I think maybe try to work this thing out and then if the council can just agree then once you've worked it out that we would pass the first reading subject to the direction given in the interim steps, it seems like maybe the easiest way to go. So my recommendation would be if you're comfortable with that as an approach that we would just tackle this now, get a motion a second, pass this, get sort of the items that we still need feedback on and present the rest of the ordinance and then we would ultimately pass the whole ordinance for first reading. That makes sense to me. Is there a general consensus? After we do questions in public. Yeah. Yes, okay. In that case, we will bring this to council questions. No, bring it to public. Yes. The question's just on this. Just on this. Actually, it also applies to mayoral removal. We need a determination of whether it's a super majority or a majority. So we're going to deal with 212-020 and there's two. Yes, yep. And it's just next slide. There we go. So maybe we get feedback on these two. These were the two parts where we needed feedback. Alternatively, we can just go through and do it all at once. I thought I was making it simple, but... If you take individual motions throughout, you probably need to go out for public comment multiple times, but if you just discuss it and then do the whole thing in one fell swoop at the end, you don't need to go out for public comment multiple times. Okay. It's up to the mayor. I'm not sure I understand. I think the question right now is three or four. Yes. That's it. That's it. Cool. Let's discuss. I'll say three. Oh, I'm sorry. Strike that. I say four. I'm simple. I'll say three. It's for discussion. It's for discussion. Can I make a motion? Can I just, can we just make a, can I just move forward? Cause we've discussed this at the last meeting and it was coming back. So can I just make and put it on the table? If the council is taking action, which is making a motion, acting on a motion, you need to receive public comment on that. We were just having discussion there. Oh. It was like being like, I like three. Oh, okay. Usually if there's an item that requires multiple points of input from the council, you could just go through the whole thing, decide what you want to do along the way. And then at the end, take public comment. Okay. I'm ready for it to go to public comment. So I can make a motion. I guess you're done with discussion. I will bring. Well, she said I got a public comment. Okay, let's bring this to public comment. Is there any member of the public that would like to address the council on these items? Seeing none, we bring it back to the council for a motion. I'd like to make a motion that for the planning commission, I feel that we should do a four vote on that. I feel like to the removal of a planning commissioner, which has a more finality. There's final, they lose their position. They can no longer come back in regards to the mayor. I think three, it should be three because they're still considered a voting member. There's no really finality.  They just simply are no longer mayor. So I would, again, my motion before for planning commission three for the mayor. We have a motion. Do we have a second? I'll second. We have a motion and a second. Let's do a roll call vote for this. Discussion. Sure. My apologies. Yeah, I just feel like I want to make a comment because it is. Please. I read in the minutes here in the staff report, it says we were leaning one way or the other. I don't remember we were leaning. I thought it was a quite vigorous conversation. It was a very vigorous conversation. Yeah, but I don't remember that we were leaning. But anyway, the only point I want to bring up is that I go back to my point, the reason, because now we have three on one and four on the other, and my point is still the same, is that based on the Brown Act, that two people can still talk and form a coalition and block something here. And that's allowed. And then by making it a super majority, you allow that to happen. Whereas if you wanted something to take place, it would actually take three independent votes to remove a planning commissioner. And by making it four, two people could talk and form a coalition and block that action. And I just think that that's an abuse of the Brown Act. So for that reason, I feel compelled that three votes for both is warranted. Is that a motion? Or is that a discussion? No, it's a comment. My apologies. The motion's already on the floor. Yes. And with a second. With a second. Any further discussion? Okay, let's do a roll call vote on this one, please. Council member Story. Aye. Council member Brooks. Aye. Council member Batur. No. Council member Petrand. No. And Mayor Peterson. No. So Daniel, option is three and three. Shall we try that again? I'd like to make a motion that three required for both removal of mayor planning commissioner. Any further discussion? Okay, let's do another roll call vote, please. Okay. Council member Story. No. Council member Brooks. No. Council member Batur. Aye. Council member Petrand. Aye. And Mayor Peterson. Aye. That's about where we were. That's why we were this night. Okay. Moving on. All right. So do we need to make a motion for all the other items? No, there was no question on those. Yeah, there aren't questions. Do you want to get an overview? Do you want to get the rest of the presentation on the other items that are in there? I think we're all confused. Right. We'll do it quickly. Those are the only ones that the direction was. Oh, can I? We wanted to. We wanted further direction. Yes, we wanted to show the direction. The other item, and that, yes. Well, I had a question about the bonding item. I don't know if we're ready for that or... No, we're going to go through them all. Oh, yeah. Okay, real quick. Placing the item on the agenda.  Next one is referrals. Jamie, referrals. This is the new item that we are going to ask for a motion, and then a referral would come up on an agenda with a staff report before an item was sent to a commission. These last group, these are the more simple. They were listed in the staff report last time and quickly discussed and are reflected in it. We had old references for state law. Nobody else has policy adoption in code. Appeal hearing just clarified the order. Meeting time and place currently, the way it's written, we should be having our November meeting the day after Thanksgiving, not doing that. Public comment, there was something about you could have preference if you notified the clerk. That has been removed. All reference to the redevelopment agency has been deleted. And then employee bond language replacing the bond with a crime insurance policy. And the recommendation is to approve first reading. And Council Member Story, you had a question about the bonding requirement. It is City Manager Goldstein has a lot to say about bonding. Good, because I have a very poignant question. We did so much research on this. We have no idea. We went way down the route at all, the two of us. I think I recall some of that. But my question is concerning government code section 36518, I didn't really read in there that it provided for an alternative of using a crime insurance policy. So is that provided in some other? It is. OK, that's all I need. Oh, gosh, yeah. Yeah, give me a second. Yeah, this was the problem. The bonding requirements are in multiple sections of the government code. OK, no, you don't need to go down that rabbit hole. I just want to. We could be here all night. It is. It's a separate section. I think it's like 1-7 something. Let me see if I can still find it in my Westlaw without having to look it up. Corbin Thompson is still here recording this. He's ready for us to be. It's a four-digit recording. Oh, Rush. OK. I know we need film music or something here. Thanks, Sam. I told them I'd just take full faith and confidence in there. I'm going to find it. I just can't believe it. We have that pasted in there. I've got it here. I'm almost there.  Oh, yeah. You did? I can find his original one. There's no internet connection right now. Who's going to win? Oh, wait, that's a template. I'm clicking on the wrong thing. I'm sorry. It's all right. 1-7. Good effort. Wow, it was fun. 1-4-6-3. OK. Good job. For purposes of this chapter, a government crime insurance policy or employee dishonesty insurance policy, blah, blah, blah, maybe provided an alternative to the official bond by any county or city. And then there is another provision in another session that says that any bonding requirement, any requirement in the government code regarding bonds can essentially apply to any other requirement regarding bonds. So this captures any bonding requirement. Thank you. You did? 1-4-6-3. Do we need another motion? Yes, we do. We need to pass to a first. Weigh title and reading and pass to a first. Second reading. Yeah. OK. As recommended with the question. OK. Motion to approve staff recommendation to approve first reading. And wait. As recommended. As recommended. I've been told I'm required to second that. Yeah. Thanks, Sam. We have a motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion passes unanimously. Go team. Item 10E, regarding a contract for emergency repairs to a storm drain on and off of Chittenden Lane. I thought I was ready. There we go. Once again, we're here with another emergency repair project. This time it's a storm drain located off of Chittenden Lane, which is off of Kennedy. I have a map here that kind of ties us in. So there's two yellow lines on the top of this map, our Highway 1. And we have Kennedy Drive, which parallels Highway 1. Just keep orienting you with a city's corporation yard located right here.  The main access is for this 933 Chittenden property, which is a commercial condominium complex. There is access, although it's an emergency access to 930 Rosdale Avenue, which is the Cabrillo Mobile Home Estates. And 310 Kennedy Drive has a driveway, but their main access is actually considered off of Kennedy Drive. In earlier this winter, the Homeland Association for Brookvale Terrace, which is the mobile home park located in this area down here, reported a lot of water coming out of the hillside. And there's a storm drain that runs from Chittenden Lane down in through Brookvale Terrace and into Noble Gulch. It's obvious and apparent that there was a failure in the 18-inch storm drain that came down the hill. City staff has spent quite a bit of time kind of researching and coming up with repair plans for this. And at this point, permanent repairs to the pipe are necessary. Several coaches within the park are immediately downstream of a temporary ditch that has been put in place by residents of Brookvale Terrace and some assistance from the city. So in order to protect those coaches, an emergency contract is necessary to repair the pipe. We will be replacing the entire pipe, not just fixing where it is broken, but we will be replacing it from the inlet on Chittenden Lane all the way to the outlet into a V-Ditch, which goes to Noble Gulch pipe. Our plan is Anderson Pacific contractors who's currently working for the city on Park Avenue Sidewalk and also did a previous storm drain repair project for us on Hollister this year. We asked them because they have a lot of materials and forces nearby to give us a quote for the repairs. They actually videotaped the pipe, weren't able to do the entire length of it, do the condition of the pipe, and they came up with an estimate of between $55,000 and $65,000 to do the work. As you know, a lot of the dangerous districts or the drainage facilities to the city are kind of jointly taken care of in certain cases, and it's unknown who controls them in other cases with the Santa Cruz County Flight Control District Zone 5. So we've reached out to Zone 5 and asked them to help participate in the repairs. They have tentatively agreed to split the cost of the repairs, 50% of the repairs, upon approval of an agreement. And staff, city manager, city attorney, and myself, and there are counterparts with the county have been working on that agreement. We have not come to final agreement, although we do anticipate that to happen rather quickly in the next day or so. So our recommended action tonight is to adopt a resolution, declare an emergency authorizing procurement and services without giving notice for, once again, the spelled bits, pursuant to the public contract code section 22050, and that would require a for-fist vote, approve an agreement with Anderson Pacific Engineering for repairs to the 18-inch storm drain and an estimate cost of $65,000 and authorize the city manager and city attorney to negotiate into an agreement with Zone 5 for 50% of the cost of the repairs. That's my report. Great, thank you. Are there any questions from the council? Yes? It's a diagram that you showed of the plan that connects you to Zone 5. Ownership uncertain for any of that? It's one of those. It's not clear. At this point, we're trying to partner with Zone 5 just to make repairs to protect the property owners. But that's ownership still under investigation and we're too careful. It's under consideration and at this point, we are focusing on the repairs, but it's something we can continue to look on. Thank you, Mayor. I understand that our agreement with Zone 5 is tentative. If for some reason there's a stump in the block and we're not able to consummate that agreement, what's the plan B? So at this point, it would be to probably return to council the next council meeting if we can't get it done and get authorization to either complete the repairs at our cost or come up with other options at that point. Yeah, I appreciate that, but since it is an emergency situation there and we're kind of beholding on the weather, I wonder if it would be appropriate to call a special meeting at that time. It would certainly be an option. It feels to me that we should maybe try to deal with that as soon as possible. So, okay. Thank you. Thank you. Any other questions? Okay, we'll bring it to public comment. Is there any member of the public that would like to address the council on this item? Please do. You have been incredibly patient, sir. Take as long as you want. My name is Dennis Kirby. I'm a board member at Brookville Terrace and I've been working with Steve and he's been very, very courteous and a real compliment to the public works department. It's been really a pleasure. He's given us all the information we needed and it's helped us in every way we can. Now, as far as the necessity for this, we go down, every time it rains, we go down there and watch this thing and it's like a geyser coming up out of this ground where the pipe is buried and we've took action and dug a diversionary ditch which is working okay but a really heavy downpour. We're going to have a lot of water under a lot of homes and all homes are pit set which is recessed into the ground and any flooding that happens fills up those areas under the coaches and it's already happened when the first breakage, two houses, the pits fill up on the room and we had to pump it out and it's very crucial to us that this happens and we just hope that you feel the same. Thank you very much. Thank you, Steve. Thank you. Thank you. Any further public comment? Seeing none, we'll bring it back to council for discussion and a vote. Any comments? Council Member Story. I'd just like to maybe in order to move this thing along, make a motion that we adapt staff recommendation with the proviso that if staff are not able to enter into this budget agreement with zone five that they call a special meeting the council for us to come back and then consider our options at the time. Second. We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? All right. Motion and a second. All in favor? Aye. Any opposed? Any abstentions? Motion carries unanimously. Thank you so much everyone. Thank you so much, sir, for being here tonight. Take care of yourselves and take care of each other. Meeting is adjourned. Thank you, Ben Thompson. Thank you. For being here still.


This is recoil GI Joe's long-range recon patrol specialist recoil was first available in 1989 he was also sold in 1990 he was discontinued in 1991 Let's take a look at recoil's accessories starting with his weapon and this weapon appears to be an M16 with an M203 grenade launcher attached to it It has a bayonet and what looks to be a red dot side attached to it The same rifle is recolored dark gray and given to later releases of steel brigade Recoil's rifle is an updated and more detailed version of the rifle that came with the 1986 leather neck Recoil's second accessory is what the card contents call a Pistol it looks like it's got like two pistols attached like one on the top one on the bottom Recoil's next accessory is his mine case and this mine case is an amazingly realistic accessory This mine case contains what appear to be m18 claymore mines which are directional mines The mines are blank on the back side, but on this side they say front on actual claymore mines They would say front toward enemy. There's a variation of this accessory Some of them had a thin handle like this and others had a thick handle like that This backpack is a communications backpack similar to the us army's an prc 77 portable transceiver With a goose neck antenna it has a couple of what look like maybe smoke grenades here A highly detailed pouch with a us stamped on it It has a canteen here a couple of extra magazines for his rifle over here and this wonderfully A sculpted coiled cord that goes to a handset for his communications pack Let's take a look at the articulation on recoil. Recoil had the articulation that was standard by 1989 that means he could turn his head from left to right but he could also look Up and down his neck was on a ball joint he could swing his arm up at the shoulder He could also swivel it at the shoulder all the way around He had a hinge at the elbow so he could move at the elbow about 90 degrees And he could swivel at the bicep all the way around The figure was held together with a rubber o-ring that looped around the inside That allowed him to move at the torso a little bit He could move his legs apart about so far He could move his legs at the hip about 90 degrees and he could bend at the knee about 90 degrees Let's take a look at the sculpt design and color of recoil starting with his head And on his head he has this green non-removable helmet He has green sunglasses and blonde hair On his chest he has an open collar with his shirt or jumpsuit unzipped Kind of a high collar that goes all the way around He has some impressively detailed green straps here And these segments appear to be extra magazines for his rifle He has some grenades The straps continue around to the back where he has this extra detail on his lower back It looks like he has some kind of line or cord there And two canteens On his uniform he has these dark green kind of block patterns And this looks like an attempt to do digital camouflage On his arms he has long sleeves More of that camouflage pattern and brown gloves On his waist he has a fairly detailed green web belt Some straps that go down to his holster and some pockets in the back On his legs we see more of that camouflage pattern and a green pistol holster His boots are a little bit unusual Instead of wearing modern army combat boots He is wearing brown Wellington boots Let's take a look at Recoil's file card And as you can see I have three file cards here These are variant file cards And these file cards have textual differences This file card has Recoil's serial number as 00078866DD66 It also has this grade of E5 over here under his birthplace This file card has a different serial number It has a serial number as<PHONE_NUMBER> And it also has his grade of E5 over here under his birthplace This third file card has yet a third serial number The serial number on this one is<PHONE_NUMBER>77 And it has his grade of E5 over here out to the side next to his birthplace Also unlike the other cards it has this registered trademark symbol above the GI Joe logo His code name is Recoil and his specialty is L-R-R-P In parentheses Long Range Recon Patrol And in another parentheses it says it's pronounced LERP His file name is Joseph Felton No Middle Initial Primary Military Specialty is Infantry Secondary Military Specialty RTO Radio Telephone Operator His birthplace is Fashion Island Washington and his grade is E5 This top section says Recoil was a marathon runner And professional bodybuilder before he joined GI Joe His excellent physical shape put him in good stead to be a LERP A LERP sneaks into the bush carrying 100 pounds of gear Including rations, radio, weapons, ammo and climbing rope He is expected to penetrate deep within enemy territory Gather intelligence and extricate himself without being detected A LERP who has to use weapons is not a true LERP This bottom section has a quote It says Recoil would be a lot more popular if he wasn't practicing all the time Oh he puts in regular time at the survival ranges But that's not what I mean He practices sneaking up on people You think you're all alone, lost in your thoughts Then all of a sudden he's standing right next to you When people ask him what his job in the army is He tells them being quiet Recoil made very few appearances in GI Joe media He did appear in three issues of the comic book Issues number 111 through 113 Recoil did not appear in any GI Joe animated series


Welcome to this week's video update I want to recap the trades from the week today is November 11th Friday so going into the weekend. Wow what a crazy week obviously the presidential election had a lot to do with the volatility so let's jump in and take a look at the different positions first of which was eBay if you remember we put on a a strangle in eBay right here right before earnings had a big move against us we rolled down our calls continued to try to get a little bit of a move up and just grinded grinded lower lower lower lower to the point where we we wanted to get out it for a small loss now obviously had we waited a couple more days we would have gotten a little bounce up and probably got out out for a profit but hindsight's always 2020 took a little small $24 loser on the whole trade so not bad for a huge move against us and that's and that's what we're looking to do if we have to adjust a strangle we want to get out for a small loser a break even maybe a potentially a small winner in this case it ended up being a small loser EEM this is a position we just put on you can see we've had a huge spike in implied volatility we take a look at where we're at we just put this one on so we're pretty well centered on EEM continue to wait and hopefully we get a contraction in volatility take that one off EWW that position's gone because we took that trade off that was the trade we put on a couple weeks ago we got a dip in implied volatility here took that one off for a nice 50% of max profit winner GDX has had a huge move down again a huge spike in implied volatility so with GDX we're right here we just breached the short strike to the downside so I considered making an adjustment here on Friday but I wanted to give it the weekend hopefully maybe we get a little bit bounce bounce back up and we can just continue to hold on to that one without adjusting but we'll we'll keep a close eye on that one for Monday so expect a potential adjustment if it if we stay right here or or start to move down a little bit if you look at because it because implied volatility spikes so much we've still got a lot of a lot of what I call juice in the in the call side so if we click off of our put here let me reset this so if we click off of our put and just show the call as you can see you know we've we've still got another $50 left in premium so I'm not in a huge hurry to make an adjustment there if implied volatility was had contracted and we were right here I probably would have made the adjustment much quicker but you can give it a little bit more time you know between here in the break even because I've implied volatility is so high we look at GLD this is one that we made an adjustment to so we had an iron condor on and it made a move big move down breached our break even so our first adjustment like I teach in the course is to remove the untested side so we exited the call side we always leave the tested side on and then in addition to that the second adjustment technique that we use is we just add another so let's click off that we just add another iron condor right there on top of price so we've got a perfectly centered iron condor so hopefully we can get some theta decay from that from that trade and then if we get a move up we could get out of our our initial iron condor for a break even or potentially a small profit and maybe make money on both of them but that's the idea is we want to offset some of those initial losses with another condor to get some more theta decay on the trade IWM this is one that that exploded higher today which is which is really crazy because you see the Russell or IWM is over 2.3 percent S&Ps were actually down on the day so what we're gonna do is we're actually gonna I let that one go a little bit further if it doesn't make a big move down on Monday I'm gonna go ahead and make that adjustment but again I wanted to keep some short Delta over the weekend and because if we do get because of things of being so volatile right now typically if it hit right here I would have made the adjustment but I wanted to keep overall short Delta in our portfolio so instead of putting on a separate trade to add that short bias I just left this trade on if we do get a move great we'll be back in back on the dance floor back in business if not we'll go ahead and make that adjustment pretty quickly on Monday so look out for that QQQ put this on a few days ago this is still in our in our range so nothing to do there but wait hopefully we can get a little bit of a down move get back into the profit maybe get some volatility contraction and take that off for a winner SLV is a trade that we put on today we put on a straddle and remember a straddle is just like a strangle except for instead of selling out of the money puts and out of money calls we sold the at the money strikes to give us a higher peak and on a straddle we look to get out of these trades at 25% of the credit received or 25% of max profit so we just put this one on so hopefully we can get a quick contraction and volatility and take this one off we'll see what happens next week SPY this is an iron condor that we put on we've had again a pretty decent move to the upside still within our range nothing to do here you don't want to you don't want to adjust too soon for sure so we'll continue to wait on that one and then TLT similar to GLD had a big move down so we adjusted that by taking off the call side and so we leave the put side on and hopefully we get a little bit of a move back up we can take that off if not we've made our secondary adjustment which is adding another iron condor stirv still fairly centered there so we just we'll see what happens next week on that one XBI this was a this was a strangle that we had on continued to move higher so essentially all we did was we rolled our puts up to take in more credit we narrowed our range and so now we just continue to let this set and collect that theta if it makes it another move higher we'll have to make another adjustment if it moves back down we'll continue to wait until we can take that one off for a potentially a small profit XLU another big mover like like most things right now big move down we're pretty close to our short strike so no need to make an adjustment yet but we'll be watching that one closely for next week so keep in mind I think things are still going to continue to be volatile because of the election so just remember to keep your the number of contracts and your size extremely small and continue to put on new trades so that you can benefit when this volatility does contract because eventually it will hope that was helpful have a great weekend and we'll talk to you next week