uivalent of deferring this issue for months or years or doing the right thing in choosing option two and moving forward while dealing with the issues which have to be dealt with while you implement this option charles was a gifted engineer who had incredible potential and his life was cut short by his accident i spoke about him in my email to you and i can't underestimate the impact which his death has had on my firm he was highly respected by his co-workers and his clients we shared many common interests which i described in my email and he was just a truly special person and we deeply miss him i reviewed the documents that were posted to this meeting and when i read the connect arlington sustainable traffic plan and saw that both correction of this dangerous intersection along with the upgrade of this last section of mass av to include a full bank plan are the top listed priorities of the plan i don't understand why the town isn't following its unplanned to correct both this intersection and this section of mass av i agree with what mr. helmeth spoke of a few minutes ago it's time to move this issue ahead towards what the future will require and and my belief is that option two will move this ahead the fastest thank you so much thank you i i have to keep moving i'm sorry yep thank you so much for the opportunity you're welcome um did i saw elizabeth carjones but i don't see her anymore she's still on there she's on the list but the next two uh speakers were carol mcdonald and steve more okay yeah um carol mcdonald hi i'm carol mcdonald i live at the corner at appleton place and mass av for the last about 67 years my time in life i have witnessed many accidents at that axis before the two that happened last year when charlie proctor got hit the minute i heard the impact i could not look out my living room windows because the glare was so great we had to go outside to see what happened and see if they we needed to call 911 so i know it's a tragedy but so are so many of the other accidents that have happened in that intersection i wrote my concerns to the board and to the town manager the flaws i saw on the options one and two the one thing i like to mention an option one if you move that bus stop to their other spot those kids going from junior high will start crossing the street here and not going back to the traffic lights causing more issues for the traffic gods the mark that was done in the summer was during covid there was less traffic it should have been also done when the the parents tried the kids to junior high because that's when the most traffic occurs at that intersection and as you saw from the letter i wrote to you you can see all the other concerns i had about that intersection thank you that's enough thank you so much i appreciate that next i have steve more uh yes steve more uh people on street thank you uh madam chair uh and listening to the the various comments that i've heard in the public forum um i just want to suggest i very there's very strong passion and there's a certain very strong emotion i want to i want to counsel compromise there is no solution that's going to address some of the um some of the stronger comments that i've heard during the public forum the solution that we're crafting here clearly has involved a lot of compromise and i think that needs to be acceptable in the end to all parties um and second lastly uh madam chair i'd like to uh ask a question through you are any of the sidewalks uh planning to be uh adjusted as part of this plan um can someone provide a brief answer on that that's usually not what we do mr more um as part of options one or two there's no curb curb liner sidewalk adjustment thank you thank you my problem um next i believe i had chat gibson i thank you i just wanted to speak briefly on some of the comments that were brought up by jason around the funding mechanisms that will have to be in place for future development here right the state has done a lot of work in this area of providing guidance around what is appropriate for bicycle accommodation and it's very clear and i think jason said it very well this is not a type of project that's going to get funded with sharrows on a on a major roadway like this we need to start working in advance of this we need to be working towards option two with the expectation that that design will have to carry forward into future development because if the state will just not fund uh this we've had the same discussion in mass abney starlington we knew the state wouldn't fund sharrows there right this is just the same thing over it's extremely important that we get this going i urge you to vote for option two thank you thank you so much next i have adam oster thank you madame chair and the members of the board um this is an intersection in which people are suffering injury and death the town was correct to give to the design committee a safety mandate um the interim solution has to respond to this uh issue for probably five years um and i don't know that option two is adequate but i know that option one is not so i hope that option one is not selected but if it is the town should continue to prohibit the left turn on to appleton during the solar glare periods which i think is still ongoing thank you for hearing me thank you mr oster next i have luke osborne thank you madam chair just luke osborne from 11 boat street um this intersection is part of my commute every day now it's it's twice a day with work from home dropping my daughter off to preschool um i it broke my heart to see the the ghost bike show up on this intersection and i fully support option two i'll keep it short thanks thank you um and i don't know if you can do this um mr chapter lane but where the numbers keep going up and down with the hands raised can we freeze it now with these final 11 because i the i can't toggle freezing it um i i i haven't seen the last all right well i'm just going to take the next 11 11 i'm going to take the next 11 that come up and then that's because we still have two more one hour meetings ahead of us so um next i have roderick holland uh thank you roderick holland 88 grafting street saving parking spaces has value it would be better not to have to reckon that value in terms of the statistical expectation of further deaths and injuries resulting from failing to mitigate the risks of this hazardous intersection um the price of parking shouldn't be paid with lives i believe option alternative to avoids that and deserves your support and i think that alternative to has an overlooked advantage in that it that mitigates reputational loss for the town and for the town's government that's ongoing now you've heard it in some of the comments uh tonight and the next time somebody gets killed at this intersection man it will be a mess thank you thank you so much um next i have number two of the 11 you like yours on yours on i apologize that was fine yeah i'll be very brief just uh i run my landscaping business on my bicycle i go through this intersection uh several times a week and um i've been doing so for decades and option two is is the least we can do to have protection for cyclists and studies show that when you slow things down it helps businesses it's good to have people walking around comfortable uh going in and out of business so i think it's also good for business but for the love of god um let's do what helps people be safe thank you so much um next i have lennard greenberg please hi i'm sorry i'm a little nervous uh okay uh on on june 14 i'm sorry name and address for the record i'm sorry lennard greenberg i'm at 106 wild would have been here for over 30 years and my wife is here hoping to speak but maybe not uh uh on june 14 of 2000 i was going through that intersect 2020 uh and a card did not stop uh i have had since that date i've had four surgeries i'm still going to physical therapy three times a week uh i'm here because if i didn't speak i would feel bad about whatever happens next in that intersection uh i think that doing anything less than what we can right now puts that you know people in huge jeopardy under under those circumstances if i could defer the rest of my time to linds i just want to say that we are careful riders we whirl it into that intersection knowing what it happened five weeks before and exactly the same thing happened again the visibility when you're coming down mass staff from lexington whether you're walking or whether you're riding just no way to be careful enough even if you know all the problems i i just want to say also this past weekend i drove through that intersection walked through it twice both times i watched cars go around the markers and around the left turn sign not stopping to zoom up on appleton twice and two for two in terms of that intersection there was no police car this weekend but both both times i went through that intersection cars zoomed around be around the left no left turn sign and zoomed up appleton clearly what we've got right now isn't working thank you very much um we support happens too yeah okay um if i have elizabeth car jones hi can you hear me yes thank you i'm elizabeth car jones i live on one lehigh street and i'm a former member of the tac and current member of town meeting um thank you so much for having this hearing tonight um one thing i can say from my experience on the tac and on town meeting is that you know these things really matter um i think it's very good that the town has has um decided to move forward with changes to the intersection that you set up a subcommittee that you've um you know committed to doing short term and long term solutions because that's always the best way to do things like this it's complicated um i really look forward to the full solution that that will include bike lanes that will include a signal that will be safe and clear for everyone who's going to be using it and i'm very hesitant to ask this question but i feel like i need to do it um for the members on the on the committee that worked on this was it ever considered to include a bike lane on only one side i know that's considered to be you know generally yeah very odd no yeah but no i'm just not going to lull that because that's going to take a long long time just whatever public comments you want to give the select board so god help us please we can get to a vote and we have two more one hour plus agenda item so okay if you could finish the only reason that i bring this up is that is that i remember the mass av corridor project people said oh there's no way you can have three lanes on mass av that's just not going to work and then it went in and it worked so um you know i okay well if that might be helpful so again thank you again thank you if someone on the committee you can contact the select board's office get elizabeth cod jones email and provide it with that answer um when you have an opportunity next i have mustapha veroglu and i apologize if i didn't say your name correctly that's okay um i'm mustapha veroglu i live on our 26 shawney road um i bike up and down mass av um i guess that's not my regular treat but i certainly go through there often enough um the descent with the sun behind you is terrifying um coming coming east so i think the the new thing that i want to raise or maybe not so new is every single business on that's uh north side of the block has parking lots behind them the parking lots are the uh parking spots we're talking about we're essentially a public good that we get to decide how we use as a town whether we use them to store cars for private business or whether we you know allocate the space for safe transportation for the members of the community going through there so when you look at that i don't understand i don't know what the status of those parking lots are i understood the landlord has spoken on this this meeting today um with a number of parking spaces behind those businesses and um perhaps the town can work with them to understand you know how much of that can be used maybe some signage can be put up to direct the public into those parking spaces behind the businesses it doesn't seem like um we're in a situation where there's you know it's a zero sum game there are there is some capacity to expand the pious and there are other parking spaces available so i i just really want to that's the real point i think that hasn't been raised tonight um i didn't say in the beginning i did mean to i very much favor option to as a stop gap to putting in a permanent solution um i used to bike commute when i didn't um work from home and i either have a near miss or i hit the ground or i swerve and slide out i figure about every nine months and it's just part of the deal and i'm pretty sick of i'm doing it and this Sunday in a different part of town i had somebody pull right ahead of me as i was coming down a hill i've got a headlight on it's flashing i'm you know well visible don't have this on behind me cars are doing all kinds of stupid things okay thank you so much i we have six people who are waiting for agenda items after this so please if you could keep that in mind um next i have Karen turra i apologize if i didn't pronounce that right no you did good job um hi i'm Karen turra i live at 525 summer street i'm a cyclist most people say i live on my bike i'm a parent former mass bike board member uh 2003 to 2007 i speak in support of option two um i have a fifth grader right now he'll be headed to oddison in two years even though he has been biking since he is five i am terrified absolutely terrified about that intersection it is the least safe place in town and the idea of having him cross it twice a day and all the other kids cross it twice a day with just the option one is just not fair to the well-being of our kids and all it does is put more people like me in cars because i don't think it's safe for a child to walk through there um and with the nbta buses i don't know if people saw today there's a lot of issues about the 77 taking 47 minutes um so there's going to be a lot more kids and teenagers on the roads trying to get to school because the buses and serving them and they're not old enough to drive do you want that on your heads i wouldn't so i do want to confirm that even no matter what happens we don't rest on our laurels given where i live i actually use the car more in that intersection than the bike um and i have to say once an option is chosen the issues that killed charlie proctor won't fully be erased until there's actually a light with the left turn at that intersection that's the only thing that will truly get us on the right path but option two is the best option in the meantime thanks very much thank you so much next i have sandra boss yes thank you so much um adam chair and the members of the board and thank you so much for giving us all the opportunity to speak um i'm sandra boss i live in new york and i'm the sister-in-law charlie proctor married to his brother tom proctor and i wanted to talk a little bit about a way in which alternative to uniquely addresses vehicle speeds so the designated bike lanes in alternative to narrow the car lanes to 11 feet wide whereas in alternative one the car lanes are 15 feet wide and research has repeatedly shown that the narrower that narrower car lanes lead to slower driving speeds in addition the bike lane is five feet wide and curving which will also slow down cyclists if alternative one is implemented with its 15 foot wide shared lanes speeding will be an issue both for bicyclists and for motorists we know from the research that when a person is hit by a car going 30 miles per hour five in 10 pedestrians will be killed at 25 miles per hour that number is reduced to 12 percent and at 20 miles per hour only seven percent of pedestrians hit will be killed designated bike lanes therefore not only protect cyclists but also reduce speeds of both drivers and cyclists a striped bump out without designated bike lanes simply does not reach the level of safety necessary for mass av i therefore urge you to vote for alternative to in the redesign of this intersection thank you thank you so much for bearing with us it's waiting so long next i have abby holt hi thank you so much um i'm a teacher at oms which i think a number of people here know that uh it's nice to see your faces um i just wanted to say that i see students riding to school every day before the before and after the crossing guard is there and certainly outside of the crossing guards space um middle school students are bad cyclists they don't know how to do it they're nervous they're inexperienced or they're just silly sometimes and they're being kids they need the extra space and a designated space about bike lane that is what keeps them safe and we're seeing more and more bikes there the bike racks are overflowing their bikes just lying in the grass now because of covid because of the bus situation um so i just want to please ask you to vote for option two um and say thank you so much thank you so much and thank you for everything you do uh middle school kids i used to i used to coach them that that's a very limited role you god bless you all day yeah i love those kids say hi jake exactly uh kevin lamb hello good good evening thank you for staying up late for everybody yeah thank you for the opportunity to speak to uh directly to the select board and my name is kevin lamb i'm with bris uh i'm 1188 mass avenue uh my wife pat and i have been small business owners and residents of allington mass for over 20 years like many of you we have seen many tragic traffic accidents near our neighborhood i believe due to the design issue that we you know eloquently discuss and also generally speaking speeding issue that jason has mentioned as well it is really a common sense that high speed in general causes traffic accidents option two is designed to create separate bicycle and driver lanes and this design would encourage both motorists and bikers to pick up their speed in their own lanes therefore it is conceivable that option two may cause more accidents our goal is to maintain a slow traffic flow for both bicyclists and drivers and an intended outcome of option two which most people trivialize it is the business and residents will lose parking space that you know people keep mentioning about it however option two will have a negative impact and will create economic hardship for all businesses on the other hand option one is a win-win option for bicyclists drivers businesses and residents and all small business owners rely on street parking spaces for their own customer like kevin fallen in mention without street parking spaces there will be again economic hardship which is not a trivial matter for most people and we all know that 18 months of negative impact of covid-19 on small businesses and let's not add to that burden with option two and if a business unsustainable like us will simply move to a different town okay thank you very much i i have to get through this and we have two more gender items that it's no problem thank you very thank you that's good we're good next i have leah grodstein hi sorry i just messed up there we go hello i'm leah grodstein uh i currently live at 30 revere beach parkway in medford but i grew up in arlington and my parents still live there my dad uh does a bike commute to work um i just wanted to add to the voices supporting option two in the short term uh mostly for the reasons that have been settled already i'm a traffic engineer and i was taught in my college classes that sharers are not a legitimate bike accommodation not at least for all bikers from eight years old to 80 years old sharers are a town admitting that they have given up and that they won't make the difficult choices that give safe space to bikes please do not give up in arlington especially near the middle school that's it for me thank you thank you and i'm gonna say because the list keeps going up and down um no the list the list that i think we can say it's done now there's two more names one more name amanda it was amanda and and judith proctor all right no more after that because when i said 11 five more people four more people came on a big heave and track so that's it the list is closed after um amanda and judith proctor i can only see amanda and so you're next can you unmute yourself hello okay i'm sorry all right because we have a agenda we're not even close go ahead yep my name's debbie now i'm on a using a borrowed laptop so i apologize for uh the confusion uh this owner up here at 1180 1193 massav i've been in town i've had my law firm in town for over 15 years now and i just wanted to weigh in there's a lot of people that have have seemed to indicate that um those of us in in favor of parking are really you know not concerned or considering um the you know the well-being of bikers and i think like kelvin just mentioned um there is there can be a compromise that accomplishes both um these are this is our livelihood and i think kevin said it well and and bill mentioned it we can't function in these in our businesses without without on street parking there is no parking in the back the the few spaces go to the people that are working in the buildings so uh and that is a problem in the town in general so thank you for listening thank you so much i appreciate and our last speaker is judith proctor hi yes i'm judith proctor mother of charlie proctor and first of all just want to thank you select board um for all your condolences and sympathies our family has so appreciated your caring um as well as your commitment to traffic traffic safety for this dangerous intersection charlie really loved to bike he rode four miles daily from his home in east summerville down broadway over north washington bridge to his work on franklin street even on rainy snowy days he rode to get groceries to visit friends and just for fun as allison said they were riding simply to get tie takeout when the fatal cat crash occurred they had planned to ride across the country we knew he loved his work his communities his wide group of friends us and allison now we know how much they loved him he often said that his biking meant one one less polluting car on the road and one less parking space needed we therefore my husband and i strongly urge you to vote and support for option two thank you so much thank you so much and again our heartfelt condolences and i pray you have the strength you obviously have to continue and go on and also share all the good memories and as the years go by the smile will get bigger and bigger it'll be the same memory but i think i'll let you all okay thank you with that um we now oh we'll go back to the board um when we the manager spoke about this in the beginning um i probably shouldn't say my remarks first because i'm sharing this meeting sorry um mr herd thank you ma'am chair and thank you to all who presented all the speakers the town workers that worked on this to the consultants and i want to especially thank and again extend our condolences to all the members of the proctor family and those who knew charlie proctor who with his fatal accident accident as a reason that we really hear today to to spread us to take action to write a wrong and identify safety issues that are in at this intersection that need to be addressed i like speaking between the two plans that are before us i think all of my colleagues that have spoken previously many of the speakers on the list and during public comment and the consultant have all mentioned this already but seeing what we could come up with for safety improvements there are definitely immense safety improvements that have been presented to us but is clear as day that this intersection needs to be signalized that's the only way to fully make this a safe intersection and prevent further injuries between these two plans i think you know we've seen the majority of the of the accidents have been relative to the left turn lane and cyclists coming down eastbound down mass av both in some instance with the bump out with the restriction on appleton place address that issue i do have practical concerns on option two in for two reasons a practical reason and a major safety reason to me these accidents that are occurring from left hand turns there are occurring because of the the speed of traffic the design of the intersection where where the cars can take the left turn and the visibility of cyclists coming down mass out until we can get that actual light or that long term solution i think it's incumbent upon us to make sure we can slow down everybody that comes into this intersection it's sort of like downing square where everyone slows down and control chaos sort of creates safety improvements for this i we we both plans have the bump out they have restrictions on turning left on to mass av the restrictions on appleton place which i think go a long way in creating safety concerns and slowing down the the automobiles i do still have concern i'm a cyclist i not not as much as maybe some other individuals that have been spoken to me but i have an office and i like to center and at least once a week on in good weather i like to cycle to my office i go through this intersection i too have concerns we've dealt with this many many times we've heard this issue over and over again and we know that there's safety concerns that this intersection so i as a cyclist coming down mass out make sure that i go very slow into this intersection and i think it's incumbent upon both auto motorists and cyclists to make sure that we're all slowing down in the interim until we can get this permanent solution and for me the landing zone it all comes down to the appleton place area whereas i think the dedicated bike lane there and i'm not an expert but i think Dr. Fallon touched on this might increase the cycling speed coming into the intersection going eastbound on mass av because you have a place to go to and i think that's something that will eventually be taken care of when when we fully signalize it but i do have a safe a legitimate safety concern that in instances where we have sun glare where we still have people taking the left turn albeit at a more a safer angle if we aren't able to somehow slow down cyclists coming down mass out in the short term we're still going to have instances of accidents that occur that that intersection there's also the practical matter and we've heard from a number of businesses and we are on the back end of a pandemic where businesses have have suffered i think one gentleman mentioned the businesses that were on that stretch of property as not being high traffic businesses but i mean i would have to respectfully disagree with that there's a law office with a lot of turnover there's veterinarian cleaners there's multiple restaurants we just licensed another restaurant so there is a lot of foot traffic there and that is a practical concern that we have to weigh safety is paramount and anyone who has said that if we pick one option over another we're not we're not taking cyclists pedestrians automobile we're not taking safety into concern i think it's just it's disheartening to hear that and we have seen comments like that we members of this board and people who follow this board know that say our safe the safety is always been paramount for us in this intersection we just have to weigh a number of factors and we have to look at the actual changes and we have to look at the safety improvements versus the impact on residents and businesses and we also this one plan versus another it seems to me that we could fuse parts of both plans to create a super plan or a better plan whereas we could still have the bike lanes coming on the west western side of the intersection have the green paint we just address the area between Appleton Place and Burton Street and i think that that would have those are the most impactful spaces on businesses that are in that area but it's also the addresses my concern about the speed of the cyclists coming down from going east down Mass Ave and i think that that is a legitimate concern and i think that's something that we can address but i i do think that the town manager's suggestion that we immediately that there's parts of option one that immediately create safety benefits and i think it's really important to get that out immediately right away and i think we can do that by looking at option one with the parking site that's been suggested i know sometimes when people think parking sites and whatnot we hire somebody to go to bed it takes months i've spoken to the town manager he can certainly elaborate on this but the plan would be to have the parking study in in house the plan the expectation is that it could be completed in october by the end of october it's town manager if you want to confirm if that's if i'm giving correct information briefly if you can yes that's my understanding and dan amsters if you can also not in agreement that you would conduct the study in october and have the analysis shortly thereafter right so correct and that would put us with a vote based on the information probably sometime in november we can come back and we can identify areas you know we'll give us some time to absorb some of the information and maybe identify a few parts of the plan that we can because this board can take action anytime it's not we take action tonight and we can never revisit an issue so we we can certainly after a parking study look at that but again safety is paramount the only true way to make this up intersection is safe is it seems to be everyone agrees on is to put a signal there have permanent turn restrictions and whatnot with both of these plans i think we're still gonna i wasn't sure if it was in either of the plans but i would think the police department's still gonna have to make sure they go out there at night during the low visibility times of day and put the turn restriction in which is fine i think that's worked very well as a short short term solution i i too have seen people go through the left turn lane so that's an issue that we would have to put our heads around to try to figure out how we can make that so put a sufficient barrier that nobody can get through the left turn lane but and that will make dramatic improvements while we look at the two plans and try to figure out what we can do for a long term short term plan till we can eventually put the signal at the intersection and i just again want to just briefly comment on the process of some of the commentary that we've received it's just disingenuous to me to have someone tell me that it's this one way of the highway approach that we can't come together and put our heads together and look look at the different interests and make safety paramount and figure out a plan that addresses the safety issues to the best of the ability to the best of the tools that we have in our toolbox right now and addresses concerns of businesses residents and pedestrians and school children and all the people that use this intersection so my motion would be to adopt option one direct the town manager to conduct the parking study as suggested and at the conclusion once we have the information from the parking study i think we can re look at both of the options again and take a second vote to see if option two in fact is the better option okay thank you mr um next i'll go to mr diggins thank you madam chair i will second it for discussion you know and but i really would like me to understand though is that and i guess this is up to us to discuss me maybe after the vote it's just that if if we don't get number one that we then try to have a vote for number two because i'm not an all-in-nothing person either and if you hadn't made the motion i was going to make the motion for option two with a default to number one so that we just don't come out of this meeting having done nothing eight um so so like i said i'm supported for for discussion here are my points but first i'd like to express my appreciation to mr amstads for an excellent and um um report eight uh it was it was very thorough very good and it is what made the decision for me early to support option two because you you you describe well you don't describe you you make a very good argument me for why sharrows me are not effective and in general not a good idea uh and i'm just trying to be conservative in my use of language because i don't want to load things up uh in in terms of the motion uh and and so so the showers aren't good and and and i guess i'm gonna back up a little bit because we there is solving for the the left turn which has led to the death and injury or death and injuries but also what this design review committee was was tasked with doing was making that whole area safer being and so the we want to make cyclists cycling safer for everyone being on both sides of the street and that's why i support having bike lanes on both sides of the street now granted me folks may go faster on bikes being with a bike lane but if the cars are going slower when they make that left turn the that's going to reduce the injury rate me and as one person pointed out and i think there's going to have this approved to to to back it up that you'll make things safer for pedestrians but also if you slow things cars down on going going towards the heights that will make things safer but once again you have the bike lane there so that makes things safer for the the cyclists too so that's why i'm a very strong supporter option too and and also i mean it just it comes down to a matter of conscious for me and i just want to make it really clear it's a matter of conscious for me it says absolutely nothing about me my respect for for your your differences with respect to my conscience me and so so i i i feel that everyone here being values safety and life being and and that you may disagree with my decision but your values are along those lines who are strong as mine but i will just sleep better having done all i can be for for option two and so that's that's the emotional element of it for me and um on uh more um okay so let me just make sure i'm like you're making a motion to support option two oh i i didn't think i could make that motion what i was doing was i was seconding you know uh i think you can let me check with attorney hind um who you seconded mr hurt for discussion right um and and we could if i'm correct you can do that and then we can take a vote but just know if we come out with two two on each option nothing's going to happen but attorney hind i just think practically given the time constraints here that's correct i mean i think there's probably a parliamentary way to do it differently but i think we can you know if mr diggins wants he can make a motion to say that he'd like to alternatively explore uh supporting option two all right i mean well i'll do that because as i said i don't want i i'm sorry miss madam chair i haven't okay you know we're not even gonna okay you want to finish up i apologize no no you please finish because i think you might give some guidance as to what might be the best way to move forward well first i need a second to mr diggins motion uh i'm sorry attorney hind i'm sorry madam chair i think you were going to go exactly where i would suggest is that if there's there either is or isn't a second for mr diggins motion and if there is then i think that there's something for the board to continue to debate and if there's not then clearly the board is going in a different direction than the option to right okay okay so so if i'm so let me um first second second chair motion if anyone um i'll second it for discussion i would go for it okay and just to be clear what my motion is by mr diggins just be clear what my motion is my motion is for option two uh with uh default one because i don't want us coming out of this meeting having done nothing me so i don't want us to get two on mr herds eight um motion two on my motion and then we come out saying neither of these pass and we're not getting anything done if my motion does is only for option two so i do want to default to some action um chair can i um make a suggestion okay um whether it just be by way of order of voting or if attorney hind thinks i should withdraw my motion but based on the way we're going where i think everyone at least wants to pass option one if option two doesn't pass does it make sense to just take mr diggins's vote first attorney hind does that make sense or do i have to withdraw my motion in order to do that that's what i was planning on going i was i was going to take them as they came in and i'm just hoping i can get through this and maybe give steve four minutes left for the rest of the agenda senator uh mr helmeth i apologize yeah well i have well i have an opportunity to to express my views before we vote okay um i guess what i'll do is i will take a vote on the first motion made by mr herd um seconded by mr diggins for discussion um madam chair can i sorry can i withdraw the motion i think procedurally it makes more sense to take mr diggins motion first you want to take his first okay all right um on a motion uh to a job i think mr helmeth would like to speak as well i think he just said he said his stuff at the beginning mr helmeth do you have more to add yeah my understanding was that the first period was for questions and i have not had an opportunity to express my views and my intentions yep definitely yeah i'd like the same opportunity as the other members if that pleases the chair so you know i think first thing i want to everybody is that is thank you for the input uh allington has made significant strides to make our only to make the town a friendly and a safe place to get around by bicycle and we will be a bike friendly town no matter which decision the board makes tonight it has sometimes taken us a long time to get to consensus uh the lake street crossing comes to mind the massive bike lanes but we have gotten it done and it's been successful i do not agree that if my colleagues tonight are not ready in this moment to support a specific plan such as option two um that they don't care about saving lives that is not fair it ignores my colleagues work it ignores the work of our town manager over the years to promote bicycle access and bike safety but i do believe that option two provides significantly more than option one does in the here now to address safety and some of the conditions that have caused the serious crashes at this intersection even though neither option is the perfect solution neither option will prevent future serious crashes and fatalities necessarily um but i believe it will do more for the reasons that we've heard tonight slowing the cars down increasing the visibility of that painted bike crossing in the conflict zone and more it is true and i and i led with this that you know neither plan strongly solves the problem it completely solves the problem but i don't believe that's a reason to choose the poorer plan when to me and in the considerable work i've done and research i've done and listening i've done over the last two weeks suggests that we have one option that does do more in the here now for the next three to five years until we have a long-term solution on which we all agree in principle um and so i do if it hasn't been done i do second mr. Diggins motion and i think i would very much like that to default so that we do get something done tonight so if if our motion second motion of option two doesn't succeed i will support a motion for option two and mr. Hurd's original um motion um the final thing i want to say is that this summer all of us strongly and sincerely endorsed the sustainable transportation plan connectarlington and that plan exactly envisions making difficult choices in places very much like and names this intersection it envisions making choices that prioritize safe bicycle access um and and bicycle safety as a mode of transportation it is easy to endorse documents and it is much harder to make difficult decisions in a moment that have a cost and i recognize that um but i also believe that we look to the future and i think that you know i'm i'm satisfied that our future options for long-term plans have a strong likelihood of requiring us to do bike lanes anyway i don't know that for sure but that is the direction that we have committed arlington as a board to endorse and in town meeting to start to endorse and support sustainable transportation strategies i want to look forward and i think this is one place where we have an opportunity to do that one last thing we have made arlington has already made all the easy choices for bike lanes on mass af and i commend the town manager and the board in the select board for doing that and all our staff all that's left are the really difficult places and this is one of them it's not the only one i took a ride down mass af this weekend you know we have some other tough choices in the years ahead that made you may require making choices between sidewalks and street parking and how many traffic lanes and bikes and we need to address that but i would say this this is one of those hard choices that has a bloody history behind it it has a place where there is a long history of crashes and collisions and we'll probably have more until we're able to afford the long-term fix and speaking for my conviction and i and and i believe that everybody in this board how are we vote tonight values human life and values bicycle safety a difference of priority and and and position is is is just that but speaking from my moral center i i believe that option two is the best choice for us tonight and i would urge my colleagues to support that if that doesn't pass if we're not able to reach three votes i will happily vote for mr herds motion because it's really important to me that we get some paint on the ground this fall do do the common elements of the two plans i don't care get something done we cannot wait until long-term solution so thank you madam chair for indulging me there was so many points i i needed to make and i was i was waiting to make them so after i heard from the public so uh i appreciate your indulgence oh and i apologize i've been having that it says internet is not stable or something like that so i miss mr your remarks and so i i truly apologize for that and i agree you know i want to do something get something done here tonight um i feel voting for option one doesn't mean i'm not voting for option two in the future um because i think there's still a lot of um things that need to be looked at from within um our transportation planner our traffic engineer exactly you know what is the right fix what is the cost what's the different pools of money that we get whether it's through mass dot whether it's through the town and i also you know um having sitting on long-range planning committee which mr decoracy chairs we have a very scary override coming for us and um i want to make sure that what we do up here and i live right down the street from s.m and appleton and i've seen it and i've seen audits and kids i've seen bicyclists the big thing is speed on everybody's part not the pedestrian but um but i think what's in option two right now that there are some more specifics that really need to be investigated and so that when we do come out with the ultimate solution that will solve probably 85 percent of the problem there's going to be that 15 percent you couldn't have predicted it so um but we'll see i'm on a motion by mr diggins seconded by mr herb for discussion to adopt option two which is i think my colleagues know what that is so attorney hind and madam chair if i may just want to be clear that it takes the majority to pass successful motion so we don't get a majority we don't get a majority um with that uh mr herd no mr diggins yes mr helman yes mrs mahan no okay it's a two-two vote the motion doesn't carry mr mahan i if i may was that i'm sorry mr hard yep um so i'll with renew the motion that i made originally the two adopt option one tonight and direct the town manager to have our plane department conduct traffic study for the area and i just do want to reiterate and i know this has been ad nauseam and i think everyone on the board has an agreement on this but my concerns with with the two options are safety concerns and i think there are safety concerns that we can flesh out and we can address by fusing the two plans and i think taking a few weeks to look at the area and try to address those concerns to a final plan that we will ultimately see which i can almost guarantee that we'll have some additional that it's not the parking studies not going to just say all right people using those parking spaces let's stick with our option one i can guarantee the public i'm one person on this board but a plan will come back with additional safety measures and additional striping and an additional matters that are not currently in option one it's just i think in order to really get the best solution for this intersection the best short-term solute short-term long-term solution until we can get the light i think this is the best course of action okay um motion by mr herd to adopt option one as a first step of a multi-step process originally mr diggins you seconded it um we still want to second that i'll second it okay on a motion by mr herd seconded by mr diggins attorney hind mr herd yes mr diggins yes mr helman yes mrs mahan yes it's a 401 vote mr decorcy did not participate thank you and um i'll take a very strict i have to take i'd like a six minute break and then when we come back thankfully for all my colleagues i will no longer be your chair for this evening so i promise just like if i can do it in five i'll do five okay thank you jason thank you thank you dan it's close to 11 can i take off my secret i i'm not sure if steve is gonna try to hold fast to the 11 o'clock cut off mr diggins are you um i think it is not substantial are you are you have an mbta deadline well i don't know to what extent we should discuss this but i mean my feelings are you have a quorum with four i'm serious about that i mean i'm i'm totally fine bailing out i shouldn't use that term i'm totally fine with you all continuing the meeting for the rest of the issues without me i mean i i i really wanted to vote on this one so if if we were in a position where this was coming up i would ask well maybe can we push this one back you know it's another meeting time but the rest of the issues is what if you all want to carry on i'm totally fine with that because that's the whole purpose of a quorum is that if you have enough people to conduct business conduct business you know i i not that anybody's saying anything uh inappropriate just want to make sure you all know we're still broadcasting and everybody on the zoom can sure well yeah i'm fine with what i said i mean i'm fine with being part of record i mean but i appreciate that yeah thanks so mr de Corsi i'm not sure if you heard but miss uh mohan asked for a five minute break she stepped away and we'll come back shortly okay okay no thank you we we had talked about before after this item taking a short break so that that's fine i'll wait for mrs mohan to return i do want to talk to the board about moving some things and clearly at seven minutes of 11 we're not going to get through our agenda tonight so i will um if you can stick around for a few minutes mr diggins we may have an alternative proposal here on a few of the items to push things off for a week or so but let's let's i want to wait until everybody's here to discuss that sure sorry about the awning i'm with you sorry for the uh it's i'm old like the chair hitting in the wrong spot okay all right so everybody is back um and and thank you mrs mohan for for running that that portion of the of the meeting we've got four items plus correspondence received before i get to the next agenda item what i would like to propose to the board um we're not going to have adequate time to discuss the opera funding if board members are available next monday what i would like to do is schedule meeting next monday to discuss that um i want to talk about 15 and 16 briefly 15 i was thinking of seeing if board members would be interested in bifurcating that discussion there are basically there's a proposal to remove three trees that are necessary to be be removed because of mwr right work there's an additional nine trees that are outside of that um we could attempt to do the three trees tonight i know the public can can weigh in on that but um i guess i'd ask the board members if one if they're comfortable with that i don't want to get into that agenda item yet just to see if we're comfortable trying to do that to get that part of it done tonight because that that aspect of it is somewhat time-sensitive mr chair yes mr heard is it appropriate to ask mr rottemacher when the work is set to start for the three trees sure so thank you um the uh this is my grata marker director public works the the work is going to start what is proposed to start this week now the work this week won't necessarily require the removal of those trees but i didn't want the visual of work happening before the vote was taken but the work that occurs this week wouldn't would not require the trees to come down and they would need to come down in the next two to three weeks okay and that's the three trees mr rottemacher is that right correct yeah sorry it would be my i don't know if you're taking comments from the pause right now but i'd be fine to actually take up that issue tonight i think we can extend of given we can bifurcate it take up the issue of the three trees if they wouldn't want to start the work without knowing that we've agreed to remove the trees okay all right any other members have any thoughts on that mr diggins oh i can stand to 1130 you know i don't know if i'll be coherent 1130 i can stand 1130 you know and and i'll just ask me that that maybe we can get a commitment to next monday because if we don't get that then i'd like for us to do the schedule for october and november before i need to leave that's a request thank you mr chair sure okay thank you mr diggins okay so based on that mr helmuth or mrs mohan do you have any comments on that are you comfortable attempting to bifurcate the the two issues on the trees yes i am too i i can't go to 1130 i'm up at 330 and first men started four so all right so let's try to get this done quickly and and we won't go past 1115 if we don't get it done we'll we'll push it to to a week from monday okay so i will announce now item 15 propose removal of trees broadway plaza project michael rata marker director of public works and again just just for a background mr rata marker prepared a memo for us there are three trees within an area to be excavated by the mwr a to complete work on a large water main my understanding is that there was a presentation to the tree committee this aspect of the presentation was not objected to there were concerns about the remainder so um with that i will turn it over to mr rata marker and mr chapter lane um for presentation on the three trees thank you um you summarize that very well that the the broadway plaza project um ultimately we're we're asking for the removal of more than trees but three are more immediately needed to be removed so the mwr a can do its water main work the trees are within the 10 or 10 or so feet of the water line and an area that needs to be excavated the work that needs to occur this week is for verizon to move some fiber optic duct out of the way so mwr a can do its work in the in the fallen weeks uh and the remaining nine trees to be discussed are more for the constructability of the plaza and and there's less of an urgency to decide upon those trees okay thank you mr rata marker before we open it up to the borders are any members of the public because this is a tree hearing that wish to speak just on the three trees that are above the mwr a easement for the water main there is one hand raised uh mr chair of john samba matzoo and now she was in the stamps two hands raised okay so why don't we start with mr samba matzoo uh hello uh thanks for having my comment um i just can't believe that this town is uh is planning to take down more trees i understand that these three trees might uh you know for whatever to put in the water main main maybe that's that's necessary um but i i was appalled to to be at the uh part of town yesterday and to see those signs on those locust trees and i just i just urged the select to take into account the number of trees that have come down in recent years and to um prevent more from being lost and i i just will say my last sense you know reread the the law rax by dr suce uh it's a lot of wisdom in that book thank you thank you and susan stamps is next good evening the stamps sorry sorry sorry sorry um okay the all right got it very very sorry um yeah i'm on the tree committee i was at the meeting on last wednesday when mike came and presented the plan we appreciated him very much doing that we did agree that you got to take the three trees down for the mwr a he made a good case for that as far as the remaining nine trees um we do we asked him to go back to the drawing board and see if he could figure out a way to design the plaza so that those nine um mature trees that provide a lot of shade cooling and and uh flood control um to remain so thank you very much thank you okay i think that is it on public comment so um i will now open it up uh to the board for discussion um and i will start with mr herd thank you mr chair i would like to make a motion to bifurcate the requests that are in our materials and move to approve the removal of the three trees needed for the mdr a work and table the requests for the remaining trees to a further meeting thank you mr herd um mr diggins i'll second that no further discussion thank you mr helmet no discussion happy to support thank you mrs mohan um yes i definitely will be supporting that if i could just ask one brief quest question which i believe mr rata maca will also say at our next meeting about the remaining nine trees but just where it was brought up several times this evening um if i could through you mr chair asked mr rata maca last year how many trees did the town of allington take down and how many trees did we plant uh i don't have last year this year's uh number to date and we have planted approximately um 210 trees and removed about 80 and i expect both of those numbers to double over the course of this calendar year okay thank you mr chair i just wanted and i would i'm sure mr rata maca is going to do that at the next meeting that we have for more detail um i didn't mean to put you on the spot like that uh i just i read your your memo to us and i just want to if we could discuss that at point again at the next meeting thank you mr chair thank you mrs mohan and uh i also support mr herds motion just a question for attorney heim where this was a hearing do we have to select the date certain to continue this to for the remaining nine trees i think you have either option mr corcy the the basically the law under chapter 87 requires only the 48 hours notice of the open meeting law if there's an objection to a tree removal so you certainly could continue the hearing or you could just notice it you know as a fresh hearing on those on a more limited project i i think either one let's fight this if you did that for next monday for example because we the arbor discussion will be somewhat sensitive we could notice it this thursday without a problem then that's right okay all right thank you so um i have no further comments then so an emotion by mr herds seconded by mr diggins for removal of the three trees only attorney heim mr herd yes mr diggins yes mr helman yes mrs mohan yes mr decorcy yes unanimous vote thank you thank you very much okay so as i mentioned we will put the opera funding discussion off until next monday it was one other item um it's 1105 that took a little quicker than i thought um item 16 i believe this will be a very quick discussion so i'm going to take a chance and go for it given the 1115 rule which is a request for stop signs in thompson um i can speak to this briefly um because i in our package was a a letter from from a resident subulac to other neighbors around the thompson school requesting stop signs um at the intersection of everett patrick and um wellesley and we have a memo there from office of riteau suggesting we change our traffic rules and orders to allow for the violation of stop signs there so with that i visited the site seems to make sense to me i will open it up to the board and i'll start with mrs mohan thank you mr chair i'd like to move the recommendation from officer cori riteau to amend our traffic rules and orders that stop signs be placed at the following locations patrick street for westbound traffic at everett street wellesley road for eastbound traffic at everett street sorry my mouth's not working thank you mr herd second mr diggins um um yeah i mean i'm going to support it i'm just it's just not really clear on what we are amending but i i will look into that me because i'm fine with with the with putting the stop sign there you know so okay mr chaplain do you want to just clarify that thank you mr chair so yeah very briefly um this intersection is not a t intersection so it doesn't have to meet the mutcd required warrants for the placement of stop signs and officer riteau described these two road ends as implied stops meaning that the way traffic or you know rules of the road work because it basically ends at another street it's an implied stop meaning no study had to go into it there's no analysis that was required but to create an enforceable stop sign officer riteau's recommendation was that it needed to be inserted into the traffic rules and orders thank you i appreciate it of course thank you carefully mr helmet thank you i'm happy to support this and i in addition to thanking officer riteau for his fine work as usual i want to express my gratitude to the residents who wrote to us uh alerting us to the situation and um and i and thank you as well to mr decorsi and to the town manager for uh for taking swift action it's it's wonderful when we're able to do that and um and i just wanted to point that out and to thank everyone involved thank you mr helmet and i also want to thank the the residents in that area um and then did we see follow-up from them too before the meeting so on a motion um by mrs mahan seconded by mr herd attorney heim mr herd yes mr diggins yes mr helmet yes this is mahan yes mr decorsi yes this is an anonymous vote and um it's 1108 so i think mr diggins you would like to talk about meetings for at least october november yes i thought that was on the agenda so yeah the agenda yeah now i i i just am concerned about time but i think yeah yeah i think we need we can settle i understand when you get in because we were going to be at monday yeah but let's go ahead and settle to walk that out i appreciate thanks for asking sure so we'll work it out now yeah okay so if people if we look at our calendars for october november if there are any dates that um let's start with october and mr chair yes are we obviously are we meeting next week as well or next week because i think it's important for mr chapter line to make what is still the yeah yeah yeah yeah opera detailed presentation all right and we established a quorum for that meeting i'm sorry have we established a quorum is available for that meeting i think people said that they were available yeah my apologies thank you work for you yeah yes it's fine for me and mr diggins yes yes but i think maybe my colleague's question is are we also going to have a meeting on the 27th is that what you're getting at mr helmet no that's a good question yeah we're still going to have the meeting on the 27th okay we're adding a meeting yeah which is fine the meeting will be i i'm anticipating a lot of discussion on opera yeah i want to run into a situation where we're absolutely yeah the votes of time yeah thank you okay all right so bearing in mind that we'd be meeting on the 27th um any dates that uh people want to propose for october yeah i suggest something given given the schedule that i understand for us needing to make a decision about precincting the precincting lines um before the 30th but also i'm realizing that we'll probably need as much time as possible to do that i mean i'm thinking that we'll need a meeting on the 25th but some kind of working backwards means from from that and so this really matter where we land the meeting before that because we have columbus day i'm sorry indigenous people's day on the 11th and so either we would shift the meeting that that week to a different day of the week we or we picked the 18th or the 4th so if you did the 25th day since we are meeting the 27th how would people feel about meeting on the 13th on a wednesday um in october that's what i was going to suggest so that works for me fine with me in honor of our former colleague mr dunn who'd like to schedule wednesday meetings we'll schedule one today uh the second wednesday of the month it's just a really neat it's a difficult day for me hey uh and this i'll meet these meetings come before attacking me but it is uh it seems like everyone else can do it i'll do it you know yes okay thank you mr dunn sure let's just do october uh i think we just did october november um how's the 8th and the 22nd works for me and for me okay all right so we don't need to vote on that so we will meet next week for opera and i think we will try to add the tree hearing so we'll just do those two things and then we'll have a regular meeting on the 27th october 13th october 25th november 8th and november 22nd and with that i will move on to items 19 and 20 correspondence received to take them both together um number 19 dangerous intersection at victoria road demetri hofmeyer 21 johnson road uh item 20 safety concerns on elmhurst road and surrounding streets and larue and pandem wolfson um do we have a motion from the motion to receive both items and refer them to the town manager's office to determine the appropriate place to follow up mr herdwood second second thank you mr helmuth any further comment from anyone all right on a motion by mr herd seconded by mr helmuth turning home mr herd yes mr diggins yes mr helman yes mrs mahan yes mr dacorsi yes it's an anonymous vote new business turning home no new business thank you mr chapter length uh i don't have any new business tonight i i do want to mention that joanne preston has been sending me messages via the q and a that she had tried to raise her hand for the tree hearing agenda item but it didn't work and now has her hand raised um i think well i will leave it to your discretion but i wanted to make sure that was on record that she was expressing that concern to me okay i i think it's unfortunate on that we will i know she wants to speak on at least on the remaining nine trees and we will put her at the top of the list um for that discussion thank you okay um mr helmuth no new business mr diggins even if i did no mr herd i know new business but i did want to remind our town councils that there is a mask mandate in the publicly accessible areas of town hall so just for next meeting gonna get him in trouble the illusion is gone magic thank you mr herd mrs mahan yes very briefly if i could um ask the town manager only because i promise this on probably five different lists a lot of parents complaining about the 77 79 bus kids trying to get to the high school kids trying to get matt and on um and and i i've seen it myself because i'm up by mess i have an apple tin the buses come down and sometime doing they see the volume of students there they're not stopping so if you could perhaps coordinate with dr homan i believe is the superintendent of schools yeah so i've i've spoken with dr homan last week about this issue and representative garbally today who's been advocating uh advocating um on behalf of the town's the general manager of the mbta any we've been promised uh relief or increase but i'm gonna i'll continue to follow up and see what's possible right just just in light of the amount of money we pay in our mbta assessment i know we say this over and over again i don't know if somebody you know phone in attorney hind's office can look at something that similar to what um we did with mu gar and then if people came to the table but there's got to be something so anyways thank you i apologize i just promised so many parents i would raise it and i'm done okay thank you mrs mahan and just very briefly um on mu gar we learned today from you there that they have hired a contractor for the cleanup the cleanup is expected to commence next monday so uh we will report back but i i could receive that word through the town manager today and that looks like um it's going to happen and hopefully it will be completed by the end of the month um so with that i uh take a motion to adjourn so i'll move second motion by mr diggan seconded by mr mrs mahan attorney hind to her yes mr diggan's yes mr helman yes mrs mahan i just want to say sometimes i feel like a mista but yes oh did i say mr i did no i did all right uh mr decorcy yes jenis folk okay thank you everyone


So, much so then for the properties of systems and now we are going to focus our attention largely on linear shift invariant system and we know why we have also convinced ourselves why now. We know that if I have a linear if a system is linear and shift invariant give it at a complex exponential a rotating phasor it produces a rotating phasor of the same angular velocity the catch is that you need you see we need that h omega to converge and what we have seen is that for stable systems it definitely converges. So, one thing that we can say with certainty now and we say it formally is a steeple LSI system always has a frequency response and we introduce this new term now frequency response. Frequency refers to the frequency of the rotating complex number which refers to the frequency of the rotating complex number. So, we call this the frequency response of that LSI system actually please note we have to be very careful in our wording we have said a stable LSI system always has a frequency response we are not saying that only stable systems have a frequency response and that is a very subtle point which we do not want to get into it this point in time, but we shall dwell on it a little later as we proceed in the course. For the time being let us look at you know systems which have a frequency response and definitely stable LSI systems are such now you know the term frequency response is meaningful only if you have a complex exponential giving you a complex exponential of the same frequency otherwise that term has no meaning. So, you know it is very clear that we have a very interesting situation here and we will now give it an entirely different interpretation we have a situation where this quantity summation n going from minus to plus infinity h n e raised the power of minus j omega n converges and we can reinterpret this we can interpret this as summation n going from minus to plus infinity h n times e raised the power j omega n complex conjugate. Now, we are reinterpreting it in this manner because we want to draw a parallel we want to give an entirely different interpretation what is this number h omega this number h omega is the number by which that phasor is multiplied when it goes into that LSI stable LSI system. Now, you see when a force acts on a system the system response by the component of the response in the direction of the force for example, if you have an elastic body it may behave differently to deformations in different directions. So, when you have a force which tries to deform an elastic body and if you know how the elastic body responds to deformations in different perpendicular directions how would you deal with the situation you would resolve the force into the different directions along which you know the body's response and then calculate the response individually for each of these directions and what do you do you multiply the component of that force in the particular direction by the component of the response in that direction right. So, force component that direction multiplied by the response component in that direction that is how you get net in that direction you consider a net in all such directions and you add this is an informal way of explaining how you deal with resolution of forces resolution of agents the same thing is true of any now you must think in terms of agents here. So, here you may think of the rotating phasor as an agent and how do you calculate the response how do you calculate how do you project how do you find the component of a response in a particular direction you take a unit vector in that direction and you take a dot product of the response with a unit vector in that direction how do you take a dot product you take a dot product by writing each of those vectors in a standard orthogonal axis set and multiply component by component. So, let us take for example, two vectors in two dimensional space suppose you had this vector v in the two dimensional space span by this paper and you wish to find a component of this vector v in the direction of the unit vector u you know what it is the component along u is simply the dot product of v and u multiplied by u and how would you find the dot product if you happen to represent this vector u let us assume that your perpendicular axis are as follows this is the axis x1 cap and here you have the axis x2 cap perpendicular to it perpendicular axis I am showing you vectors along the perpendicular axis then you could express v as v1 x1 cap plus v2 x2 cap and u also as u1 x1 cap plus u2 x2 cap and then you have the dot product of v and u is v1 u1 plus v2 u2. So, how do you calculate a dot product you multiply the corresponding components of the vectors in each perpendicular direction and then add up all such products. In the next lecture we wish to do exactly the same, but generalizing this idea through context of systems. So, you wish to interpret the quantity h omega that we have just arrived at in terms of a dot product and we wish to then carry on that interpretation further to lead us to an interpretation of how LSI systems behave and how one can decompose the behavior of LSI systems into responses along different angular frequencies omega and then come to a conclusion about the very operation of convolution itself in a different domain. Thank you.


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