We'll make a lot bit less the Great Lakes Megalopolis includes Toronto Detroit and Chicago So the Golden Horseshoe and then the area includes the whole Golden Horseshoe Yeah Good times good times. I want pie I'm going to have pie later today rub my face in it. Come on join me No one's stopping you Roger I can take care of themselves for an hour can't afford pie gotta feed the kids Roger has to put pie on the table for me. I gotta put I gotta put pie in my family Okay Well then friends shall we begin we shall let's do it here we go Right now DTNS has one more patron than last month and that patron is Beth Gilmore who has supported independent tech news directly for about a day Be like Beth become a DTNS member at patreon.com slash DTNS This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday May 9th 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane from Oakland, California. I'm Justin Robert Young and from somewhere on the show's producer Roger Chang Better than nowhere. We are going to talk about the editorial that's sweeping the nation From one of Facebook's founders about saying Facebook should be broken up That's a little bit like something a senator once proposed. We'll talk about all of that in a minute But let's start with a few tech things you should know Samsung co-CEO DJ co told the Korea Herald that the company has received the defect to the Galaxy Fold and plans to confirm a new launch date by the end of the week This would reportedly involve improving the durability of the exposed areas of that hinge and reducing the gap between the screens bezels and its protective layer Germany is testing a system that uses overhead electrified cabling to deliver six hundred and seventy volts of DC power to trucks Pentagraphs or conductor rods the Siemens developed e-highway is designed to work with a custom Scania hybrid truck developed by VW if it's going less than 56 miles an hour The test is set to run until 2022 and if successful could expand more broadly. Oh good Trollies just like in San Francisco Nintendo announced it will stream its next Nintendo Direct on June 11th at 12 Eastern Right at the open of E3 because that's 9 a.m. Pacific Nintendo says it will focus on its game lineup for 2019 Wink-wink, which means don't expect a hardware announcement All right, let's talk a little more about something Google is doing to help folks who don't have a credit card Google has announced it's launching pending transactions Which will let Android users in emerging markets pay for apps and in-app purchases with cash bank transfers and direct debit When downloading an app users can select an alternative payment at checkout This will generate a payment code which then can be taken to nearby stores that accept Google pay to make payment Users will receive their purchase within 10 minutes and a proof of payment email refunds will only be available with play store credit I love this idea as far as making Payments more accessible. It's not the easiest way to do it But I imagine if you don't have a credit card and you want to buy apps You know through the play store, which is a safer way to do it This this might be the way to do it I mean buying some some Google pay gift card type things would work, too But this is essentially opening up avenues for payments which in developing markets Which is where all the battle for market share is right now is an important avenue to provide It also shows you how valuable having the payment Of Google pay having that the method be pioneered is very very very important for the future of these companies where You are dealing with a lot of little transactions constantly now is Google Making sure that a store that offers Google pay must accept this Cash transaction could the store say we don't do that Good that is a good question. I did not see an answer to that here I didn't either I assume a store could say that, you know, we're we're not going to do that But but I don't know why they wouldn't I would guess that yeah that that's part Yeah, cuz then you're in the store and you might buy something else. Yeah, right Yeah, they want they want to get you in there even if you're just buying angry birds You know, I've got a friend. She's she's in the US who for her own reasons Doesn't have a bank account. She has an Android phone She pays for the phone at her local the store that she got the phone in cash when it's when the bill is due I mean her life runs fairly well considering she's pretty off the grid This would be perfect for her because up until now Anything that required payment that was that was you know, like a mobile Online payment or anything anything to do with her phone that wasn't just a free app that she could get you know By pressing a button. She just couldn't participate in so this would actually work for her. Wow. I don't That's fascinating. I feel like all I want to do is talk about your friend's life. Yeah, well That would be the last thing she'd want me to do but yeah, I mean it's that these this people do this This is this is the way to live but at the same time you are shut out of of I don't know a cool paid app that you'd be happy to read dollars for My mom does the same thing with iOS. She does not purchase anything that that isn't free And she will buy gift cards You know iTunes gift cards and give herself a little credit for some non-free stuff But she does not link a credit card to her iTunes account for her iPhone Well, good on you Google Helping people pay for apps. Yeah, if you too are hoarding money under your mattress, please email the show Samsung announced a new image sensor the ISO cell bright GW one It has a 64 megapixel sensor with the same size pixels as its 48 megapixel sensor This means it'll be bigger and also capture more light It'll generate 16 megapixel images by emerging four pixels the 48 megapixel sensors generate 12 megapixel images Exactly the same way pretty same anyway The bright GW one will also be able to Descramble the color filter for a full res 64 megapixel shot if you have enough light for it And the part will go into mass production in the second half of the year So it could show up in phones later this year. Yeah This is similar to what Sony already does that the part where it can it can break descramble the color filter Sony does that with its 48 megapixel sensor right now So Samsung kind of leapfrogged ahead of them by doing this not only with a 48 megapixel But this new 64 megapixel sensor expect Sony to come out with a 64 megapixel sensor Soon and then by the end of the year we'll have we'll have a bunch of options for manufacturers to make these kind of cameras There are some limits though Roger I know you and you and Amos we're talking about this in our prep meeting about how yes, it's a bigger image sensor Which means or the pixels are the same size Which means that theoretically should still work, but there might be some limits to that I mean depends on how they package it and I mean there are limits to what you can do in order to have these things Uh fit into various devices, right? I mean ideally you would want as physically big of a An area as you as you can possibly get away with but you do have constraints on the target package It remains to be seen. I mean once it's out and and people can test it, you know, we'll get a better idea It definitely looks promising but at the same time I've seen similar attempts in the past end up with Kind of okay results, but the the current 48 megapixel sensors are pretty good, right? Yeah, and uh, you know This is one of the caveats about digital imaging more mega megapixels doesn't necessarily mean an increase in image quality Correct So we get an email every time we mention megapixels on the show instructing us that and that's why we're trying very hard to say It's also the same size pixels on a bigger sensor. So yeah Hopefully leaning into that a little because you're right, uh, and and hopefully this is a big enough sensor that it makes up for the fact that it has more of them Um Nike is adding a feature to its app called Nike fit that uses a computer vision Algorithm to scan your feet and then some other algorithms to recommend the right shoe size In the listing for for shoes in its app You'll have a new option to measure instead of just picking a size when you do that your camera opens up And instructs you to stand next to a wall you point your phone's camera at your feet You'll get a couple of circles appear. They're calling it augmented reality It's really just two circles appear but whatever two circles appear to help you get a level shot And then once it's good it scans your foot and recommends a size You can save the scan to your profile then to make future size choices And in fact, you can even Give it to people if you go into a nike store and say like hey This is my actual shoe sizes scanned by the app That'll help them pick the right shoe because different lines of shoes even within nike sometimes come in Varying sizes, even though they're all called nine or eight or ten or whatever This is expected to arrive in the u.s Nike app in july and in europe in august Yeah, my first reaction was like if you don't know your shoe size by now Well, it depends on how old you are of course, but you know if I don't like I kind of know my shoe size But nike specifically I use for running. It's a good running shoe. It just fits me well But only certain styles do not all nike styles Some of them are too wide in the heel and my left foot is slightly bigger than my right foot So there's you know, there's there's some There there are some some variables here. So, you know, it's pretty cool pretty cool I would also say that for and I would suspect many of the listeners if you are not a sneakerhead or Buying shoes for fashion purposes if you have a very utilitarian relationship with shoe buying Then you probably don't do it all that often and if you Purchased a too big Size shoe or maybe even a too small size shoe then a lot of those decisions last for years and years and years and years and years So you could really just make two bad decisions and have a miss size shoe for a decade Yeah And I know my shoe size it's between 10 and 11 depending on the brand depending on the type of shoe And I always have to try them on just to find out is this one the one that's 10 and a half is This is the one that's 11 And so having this system for any Uh a thing I don't really buy Nike shoes that often But man, I would love to have this on the shoes that I do buy to say like this is actually what my foot size is Can you match it with the shoes that fit so I don't have to sit here trying on three different pairs every time I go into a store You know, I actually I I kind of forgotten about this because I'm annoyed with myself But I bought a really cute pair of Adidas shoes online So I didn't try them on beforehand And I'm a pretty standard size six maybe 5.5 with a boot every once in a while, but um, they run big and Didn't say anything about that on the page and had adidas had this app because I don't have any shoes like this particular model I would have used this and I would have now So thanks a lot. Yeah, adidas all day. I dream about you having that app so I can have more Sure Of my online buying Tell us what your shoe size is. Oh I don't know. Yeah, pay up man. And I think Maybe nine and a half it depends. I really need the app On an investor call redfin ceo glenn kelman Acknowledge that the company has started the redfin direct program in boston over the last six weeks Allowing home buyers to make an offer on real estate listings without an agent Potential home buyers must complete a 55 question form to build a competitive offer And pay redfin one percent of the purchase price Replacing agent fees that can be up to two and a half percent in the initial trial of the 122 listings with accepted offers Five were from redfin direct with 12 rejecting a direct offer Kelman stated that the program will expand to virginia Yeah, so the first thing that roger and I who have both purchased homes Thought of is well, wait But realtors do other things than just negotiate the price and accept the offer There's there's there's things involved with paperwork and getting your mortgage together and the escrow and titles and and that sort of thing And I wonder how these people handle that are these people who feel comfortable doing that themselves and getting the escrow company themselves Why don't you want to know what tom? You're absolutely right travel agents do so much more than just booking your hotel They also lay out your travel. They lay man Oh, I immediately I immediately jumped on the train a book of my own travel online I'm not I'm I just I'm not saying you can't do this But I'm wondering what other parts of that process are involved here because these are serious legal parts like title insurance and title transfer Not like oh, but the travel agent also books your hotel for you I guess my larger point is that if they do get into this Yes Homebuying is something that is monumental that is very legally binding that is oftentimes the largest financial decision that you will make and It can be automated like everything else can you you can even if it's Finding another human that does it a part and parcel but at a cheaper rate at a more A economic rate than you know giving a percentage of the home buying purchase over to somebody else I think that you can handle a lot of this kind of stuff this to me It's just more legally complex than a lot of other things that most people do and that's why there's a 55 question form to build Your competitive offer. I get that it sounds like they're trying to cover some of that stuff I'm just curious how much of that is well. Yeah, and so okay So say you're a real estate agent, which I've always kind of thought maybe I'd end up doing if I don't know technology goes away Any day now, but uh, you're you know, are you in trouble? Okay. This is a small roll out Sure, redfin is like, okay. Well people are kind of starting to use it and we're going to expand a little bit But let's look a few years into the future. I mean is being a real estate agent something that you know was going to go away and If if I wanted to use redfin direct to take advantage Of that, but you know having a lower fee than what the agent would would Ask me to give If you use an agent if you work with an agent It's sort of like going into a store and seeing what you like and then buying it on amazon for cheaper later It's like now where how do we get into that weird gray area because if an agent's mad at you, but you buy the house I mean, do you really care? Yeah Again, I I would be curious to see real estate agents who listen to this show Let us know how much they are afraid of these platforms Effectively taking their chaps Or how much the platform it just doesn't worry them because it doesn't provide the right services Feedback at daily tech news show.com. Uh, let us know what you think because I'm with Justin on the longer term Like all that stuff can be automated I'm just not sure 55 questions is enough to automate it and I didn't get any uh clarity out of the ski choir story Particularly about that part of the process. So I'm just curious Well, maybe you'll like this next story French company pop show built an app on snapchat snap kit platform called yolo that lets users solicit anonymous questions Oh, what could go wrong? You use yolo to send and ask me anything invitation to selected contacts Order the public on snapchat questions are then sent through yolo and then your answers show up on snapchat One week later the company is as surprised as anyone that is the number one most downloaded iphone app in the u.s And the uk yolo has a warning at launch that says it has no tolerance for objectionable content or abusive users And it contains flagging and blocking features as well child safety advocates are criticizing the app not surprising Yeah, uh, there's there's the whole child safety Part of this which is like this is being used by teens This is most popular by teens and will it be used for bullying? How badly will that happen? So far it doesn't seem like those complaints are very high But it's also early days The other aspect of this is is this just the next sarahah slash yip yak Where it'll be popular for a period of time and then fade away as teens get bored with it I remember form spring. It was kind of before the mobile days But that was that was a big deal and then it got real nasty and it kind of went away Everybody was like, well, okay. That was an interesting fad. I see this exact thing that yolo does on on instagram stories Um, and I don't know some people like that kind of thing like hey, that's not anonymous. That's the only different, right? Right, but it's not us. But sure. No, no, no, no, it's almost the exact same thing Instagram stories you can uh, solicit like you ask your your people a question, right? And then they can respond back to you but you see who it is. That's Yeah, oh, yeah Exactly this is it's I would I would almost Bet my well, I won't bet my life on anything But I would bet some money that yolo will fade away as its predecessors have Contrary an opinion then does it mean something that this idea does keep popping up. We like we named like three different things Like right yeah, is somebody gonna figure out how it stays around and then the question is Did yolo do it by adding snapchat images building it on snapchats new platform and putting in warnings and controls Or is it still yet the magic formula to be determined? Hey folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes Be sure to subscribe to a daily tech headlines dot com all right In an op-ed in the new york times facebook Co-founder as he's sometimes called chris use called on the u.s. Government to break up facebook Let's dig into first who chris uses he was one of the roommates in harvard along with eduardo saverin Dustin moskovitz andrew mccullum who helped zuckerberg get facebook off the ground in 2004 If you're curious, he was played by patrick mappel in the movie the social network mappel also played pfc dinkins in madman Dinkins is associated with the jfk conspiracy theory. But anyway, that's a side thing Hughes left facebook in 2007 to volunteer for the obama campaign. So he's political that's going to play into this He was the publisher and editor in chief of the new republic from 2012 to 2016 Most people think it was not terribly successful under his stewardship And he's now a co-chair of the economic security project He has sold all of his stock in facebook. That's important to know He's not trying to hurt or drive it up. He sold it all in 2012 And thursday in an op-ed piece published in the new york times Hughes argued that the ftc and the department of justice should force facebook to spin off instagram and whatsapp and bar facebook from acquisitions for several years wherever i heard that before He writes mark is a good kind person But i'm angry that his focus on growth led him to sacrifice security and civility for cliques And i'm worried that mark has surrounded himself with a team that reinforces his beliefs instead of challenging them He goes on to say mark alone can decide how to configure facebook's algorithms to determine what people see in their news feeds What privacy settings they can use and even which messages get delivered When it hasn't acquired its way to dominance facebook has used its monopoly position to shut out competing companies or has copied their technology Now he does talk about the wider philosophy Of whether companies are getting too big these days in the us and he also calls for a government agency to regulate privacy And create guidelines for acceptable speech on social media But justin you seem to have something to say Well, uh, you've kind of hinted at it twice and and that was exactly my reaction in reading the op-ed is man, this seems familiar This seems a lot like elizabeth warren's uh stated plan not only to break up facebook but also amazon and google Uh, I then did a little digging and indeed hughes has given the maximum allowable donation to elizabeth warren's current presidential campaign in february That is two thousand eight hundred dollars months after he gave ten thousand four hundred to her joint fundraising committee He is also given a twenty seven hundred to mayor pet Buddha judge the south bend mayor and two hundred and fifty dollars To the leader of the yang gang andrew yang, uh, who are also running for president in the democratic primary I don't I think I mean Upon realizing that this this seems to me like a campaign ad that's what it reads like to me And I have the same feelings about it Although undoubtedly this is a more personal tale than elizabeth warren making a policy proposal But I have the same feelings about it that I did her policy proposal, which is I don't exactly know what this achieves even if you are to spin off what's app and uh instagram I don't know how viable what's up and instagram are as other companies nor do I think that it necessarily gets To the heart of why we have problems with facebook Which is the fact that they are an ad sales company and they continue to funnel Everybody in to get maximum usage out of them So they can sell ads against them if this proposal was to spin off facebook's ad sales I I think that you would be driving more to the uh more to the heart of of Controlling their their instincts, but I don't think that facebook Of snapping up companies and spinning off the ones that they have Really does much Yeah, I we should mention facebook's response because former liberal democrat party leader in the uk and one time deputy prime minister The uk who is now the facebook vp of global affairs nicklas clag Said facebook accepts that with success comes accountability But you don't enforce accountability by calling for the breakup of a successful american company Accountability of tech companies can only be achieved through the painstaking introduction of new rules for the internet So really pushing that zuckerberg op-ed that he wrote for the washington post of hey Now that we're big enough that we can survive. Please come regulate our competition out of i'm sorry That's not what he said. He said please regulate the internet Uh, this is this is what we need. We need your help government. And that's so that's the party line Yes, and I think it was it was not uh, uh, not not a A mistake or not not not a coincidence that they got somebody that Definitely isn't connected to mark zuckerberg So it didn't seem like this was a personal thing between zuckerberg and hues I mean, what's happened instagram being independent companies on the surface? It's like well a lot of people don't even know facebook owns them anyway They'll just keep chugging along But it all depends on who runs those companies right if facebook was gotten broken up Like is the rule then that nobody who's ever worked at facebook can be the ceo of either of these companies We're in some sort of management role or on the board There there are like you said just I mean there are a lot of questions of what what would change unless it was really stringent rules Yeah, good good good instagram not contract with facebook to sell their ads Because that's effectively the relationship that they have now I mean obviously people that are employed by facebook are running instagram and the founders for both of those companies have You know since left because they didn't uh feel that that match with their initial vision, but That is the relationship the the relationship that matters Right now is that facebook owns these companies because they are going to put ads in them They are going to continue to bolster how they make money, which is selling advertisement I mean, I think This is why I think that you're right This is either a political ad or an audition for somebody who likes to work on campaigns to say hey beth look what I could do Uh, I this this is an easy thing to get people to understand. Let's break up facebook You're all mad at facebook right right am I right great? Let's knock them apart into those three pieces instagram. What's up in facebook? Uh, but mike masik wrote a really detailed breakdown of how all of the problems that hues identifies in his op-ed Aren't necessarily solved by taking instagram and whatsapp away from facebook Facebook would still have zuckerberg in charge zuckerberg would still be in charge of the news feed He would still be in charge of your privacy controls He would still be in charge of marketing data to third party people Facebook would still see all the things all the problems with facebook Aren't fixed by getting rid of instagram and whatsapp now granted it would reduce the income It would could potentially provide some competitors But even before facebook owned them instagram and whatsapp weren't particularly competitors with facebook Yeah has plenty of competitors right now and has also been encrypted So it's not contributing to the problem of facebook spying on you and it's the more competitive aspect of the business I think you have to Limit what facebook can do with its market position if you wanted to go after them at all breaking them up into three companies doesn't seem to solve the problem No, how it is. However a very good campaign thing because like you mentioned Technological questions business like monopoly questions are complicated the solutions take forever And you need to justify them repeatedly. This is a process that moves Glacially, however You that's hard to say to a voter that that's hard to get across in a soundbite. What's easy is you know these things You know these things we're gonna separate them, you know, we're going to break them up That's it's just leveraging the brand names of these companies To make a larger point, which is that tech has gone out of control and there is a larger hues makes a larger philosophical idea that America has strayed too far away from its Roots of having a firmer hand and breaking up monopolies and that we should return to that which is you know That that's that's an intellectual line of thought that he's allowed to have but here we are Well, you know who else is intellectual? 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You were discussing the reduction in google assistant ai model sizes You discussed the improvement in latency and commented that this could allow for greater security They did in fact address address this during i o they discussed the use of federated learning to enhance security An excerpt from a google blog post says as follows It works like this your device downloads the current model Improves it by learning from data on your phone and then summarizes the changes as a small focused update Only this update to the model is sent to the cloud Using encrypted communication where it's immediately averaged with other user updates to improve the shared model All the training data remains on your device and no individual updates are stored in the cloud Keep up the good work. Thank you so much. Tyler. I I wish google had hit that a little more in its keynote But uh, but i'm i'm glad that that they have that there and it's very well explained It's very similar to the way apple was explaining their model as well And i'm glad to see google moving to that so really appreciate sending along that link tyler. You're the best We also got Some feedback about our discussion of neighborhoods and apps like next door and amazon's neighbors Upcoming neighbors. Um kimberley the texas teacher wrote in and a really great email. We don't have time to read it In full, but she made some good points about some issues that she's had where she lives Which is in texas and one of them was that a neighbor had incorrectly identified A a common neighbor of theirs as a sex offender because she'd found the address on an outdated list somewhere And the person who lived there ended up getting harassed by neighbors who Incorrectly thought that she was the person so that's not good You know a little bit of that herd mentality that that spread really quickly another example. She used was that She walks her dog a lot and a neighbor Uh started getting suspicious like this woman is walking by my house way too often She's doing something nefarious here And some other neighbors had seen that post on the app that everybody was involved with And then ended up coming back to kimberley and saying We're just saying this stuff about you so you can see where this does go haywire sometimes where people are They're not necessarily china ruin anybody's day, but they're they're spreading false information Too quickly on the other side. Uh, I was real hard on the ring App but capy wrote in to say that uh That some some police arrests have been made based on information from ring in his neighborhood And including a couple break-ins to his car. So there's there's positive on that side of the ledger too Thanks to everybody, uh, who wrote in with their experiences on this It's a it's a nuanced issue as I hope we got across yesterday when we talked about And thanks also to justin robert young nuanced or not We love you every thursday whenever we can have you and let folks know where they can Keep up with your work. Well, I'll tell you what I'll be writing a little bit more about this op-ed and the political ramifications of it On my newsletter the free political newsletter that you can get at free political newsletter dot com Head on over there right now sign up. By the way, thank you. I shout it out last week We were looking for our 177 to break the 1776 barrier and we did it in like minutes So I'm excited. 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Yeah, it sounds like a question come in on that yolo app Yeah Are you hoarding cash email dts? Yeah Uh, you know, my mom doesn't have a credit card. She is nothing's paranoid.  Well, but we are Uh, nikey glass slipper. Okay, I got it Facebook breaking up is hard to do. I feel familiar somehow Uh Hughes gets in zuck's face book Get it gets in his face That's okay Facebook's x wants a breakup. Huh clever Hughes facebook breakup pictures of feet isn't always creepy Actually like the uh Facebook's x wants a breakup I like that one. That's pretty very clever. Yeah, they're all good, but this one shines Yeah, you're you're you're all my favorite this one this one spark join So which one was it the uh, these mix x wants a breakup Got it and the doc for you. You can just cut and paste it Gdi though First rule of gdi Don't talk about facebook. Don't talk about facebook because you're gonna talk about facebook a lot I need a face. I need a face space from facebook The safe space a face space um Something that we didn't get to on the show Uh, I I was curious to see whether or not elizabeth warren has uh trumpeted this op ed You would think that she would considering Uh similar to her proposal, but as of yet at the very least She has not uh on her instagram Pay no attention to the senator behind the op ed Yeah, I mean, I I don't think there's necessarily anything uh, uh nefarious about it. Uh, although it is a very very funny picture of uh zuckerberg on the uh on the on the op ed it's just like like the the side-by-side of chris hughes looking very serious directly around then zuckerberg with the like I swear to god, I'm never if I ever become a public figure. I'm in politics. I'm never looking down Always you're getting every politician has the shot of them Down or even worse looking down and in silhouette and you can't help So many pictures being taken of you it does it takes half a second for you to go like Who and then bow me not today satan? No nose will never will never go below 50 degrees You'll have a harness on that'll just stop it. Yeah, I'll just You know the chin will always be up By the way bio cows wanting me uh to continue my my promised conversation on the great lakes megalopolis I don't know that I have that much more to say on it. What is the great lakes megalopolis? Well, okay, so i'm i'm headed up to hamilton ontario For the marshal mcloon round table or marshal mcloon variety hour round table event In in july And I was talking to david the psychologist Who's one of the co-hosts of that show and and a buddy of mine? About you know, he's like don't call it to ronoh at hamilton people in hamilton get real sensitive about the fact that they're their own town Yeah, they're not a suburb of toronto And so we started riffing on on stuff like the golden horseshoe and and all these names for regions and everything And it turned and then I ran across the phrase the great lakes megalopolis great lakes megalopolis, which is a mega region of the us and canada consisting of uh pennsylvania and upstate new york Through southern ontario southwestern kebek and including parts of illinois ohio and michigan What the heck? And i'm just like how is this useful in any way? So it so it contains within it chicago toronto and detroit Yeah, as well as milwaukee grand rapids cleveland fitzberg buffalo rochester windsor Wait rochester. Yeah I know i mean it's it's the the original idea behind the megalopolis was to have economic ties like There had to be some sort of economic tie for all those areas to be kind of concerned into To one so i'm just wondering how upstate new york Like is there a lot of trade across the border? The same way yeah, but i mean for those cities like do they do they produce in their primary? Well, this is it. This is an outdated concept. Uh, so presumably in 1961 We're all feeding into detroit. Uh detroit was considered the the central urban area in the great lakes megalopolis So yeah down the seaway from rochester into detroit sure that makes sense. It doesn't make as much sense now when that's definitely not happening Um, yeah, it was outlined as an emergent megalopolis in the 1961 hit book megalopolis by french geographer john gullman. He also wrote, uh Towering inferno. No he did Man who gonna remember that who gonna forget that page turner Towering inferno is great. No the other one didn't write towering inferno It's not a joke if no one knows you're not serious That's just misinformation. It's just deliberate misinformation Uh I want to see these mega okay the great lakes megalopolis is huge Obviously the northeast megalopolis is all the things you'd expect philadelphia new york, boston, washington dc outside The piedmont atlantic megalopolis includes atlanta and stretches into south carolina and tennessee There's of course the florida megalopolis made up of florida nice So wait, it's just your crazy Although the panhandle is part of the gulf coast megalopolis good take it. Yeah Then there's the texas triangle of austin san antonio dallas and houston Yeah, but isn't that still a thing though like the texas triangle Yeah, I used to hear that every once in a while like not as a megalopolis, but just kind of like that I mean that's basically just referring to like The population center of town You know The two megalopolis is on here that feel real to me are southern california Which this little blob just looks like a map of la to me. I'm like, yeah That's pretty much right and northern california which extends into the the central valley a little more than than I think people think about it But otherwise like yes sacramento oakland san rafael San josei sure Yeah, well, yeah, the southern california one Is you know, it also includes teowanna anaheim bakersfield vega long beach I don't know if I go all the way down San diego almost feels like part of the whole la area these days sometimes Yeah, no, no, I I mean because it stretches as west of vegas Yeah, vegas is a little bit of a stretch or it's our east is vegas What was the well, what do they give as a definition for megalopolis like how does it megalopolis? Yeah, that's a good question Nobody knows I think we're just picking teams Yeah is defined as a chain of roughly adjacent metro areas which may be somewhat separated or merged into a continuous urban region Yeah, I mean that's All right, you mean like a country No, no Because there's gap between cities in the united states, but the united states is a country Yeah, so like if you look at there's the northeast megalopolis That goes about as south as virginia Uh, but includes new jersey new york, I mean it's basically the tri-state area plus Uh, virginia like pennsylvania and virginia I mean it all comes down to how much How much empty empty space has to exist to make separation between a city, right?  Let's also just make it clear. This is a ridiculous concept and really doesn't deserve I'm not sure it's a terribly useful concept. It feels like a like a 20th century like fear Like we used to have separate cities, but now we have suburbs and they're all starting to blend together Oh Big cities are going to blend together. Yeah, that's what we call. This isn't what we call the metro area But also it makes a lot of sense when you think about the the worries of like the population bomb That that we were going to run out of space and and these are the new actual things that are are going to define our lives and then Those fears proved somewhat unfounded as there are still indeed plenty of empty space Yeah, there's something in here that I saw about the decline of society uh, yeah Described it as the first stage in urban overdevelopment and social decline That a megalopolis a megalopolis. Yeah So early in the 20th century it was used as a portent of of, you know, the collapse of the west But uh later it was just used as a way to describe cities and then kind of don't think it ever really caught on Because we have we have dma's now right metro like you said rather metro areas Yeah, I think some of them make sense. There was a thing I read the other day that uh was talking about how uh phoenix and tusan Continue to move ever closer together And uh, if you look at the population patterns, they could be one Super metro area. Yeah, a martin sergeant's parents moved to some I don't know if it was a retirement community or just some new suburb kind of equidistant between the two and it was like And at you know from what I hear it it just sort of turned into something that was eventually going to be a big Yeah, it was all going to be one thing But they weren't in either city, but they weren't any further away from one than the other. Yeah Yeah, like in terms of yeah I feel like When I before I moved to la I would get in arguments a lot with people from la about whether anaheim was part of la Or not like no, it's not like but look it's right. I mean, how is that part of la? How is uh simi valley part of la, but anaheim's not like different county and people get weird It's old. It's like old definitions because yeah, this way of looking at it. It's like, yeah, it's all just one big region Well part of it is like simi valley A lot of those people who live in simi valley work in la and I so that goes back to the whole economic link Like if there's an economic linkage in other words, you might live in a suburb But you work or you generate a majority of your income from This region you would be connected to angeles do party at disneyland So there's an economic link. Hmm party at the disney I hear you're saying like we're you know, there's not a lot of people that commute To anaheim from simi valley. Probably I don't know. Maybe there I know there were people who commuted from sacramento into the bay into san francisco and People commute from a destoe in this the san francisco barrier. They wake up at 5 a.m The commute do it. That's a crazy thing. That is Anybody who does that should be crazy. I know if you have to do it, you have to do it Wow, it should affect your credit because how could anyone be lending you money when you're crazy Well because they already had those jobs, but when they were looking or for affordable housing They had to move further and further east companies should be informed that they're employing crazy people What they should do is build Efficient network linkage so you can kind of have Separate your workforce so they don't all have to be in one central space. I don't know My biggest problem is my friend who lives in sacramento is beating me in fantasy baseball right now. Oh, no wait does oh That is uh There's a conundrum jeff misado you guys Justin doesn't know. Oh wait. Does he still have the trophy? No, the trophy moves around every year to whoever wins the league That's the trophy of the fantasy baseball league. Is that what you're asking? Yeah, no, it moves to whoever when I've touched only But the one I've touched one time that one. It's like the stanley cup.  There's like a new Yeah, that's what we do I've only seen it. But once how would I know? That was years ago that you saw it too and my I know in the place where east meets west was born A decade ago more that Yeah, I feel like I I've heard about east meets west for more than 10 years 14 October and turn 14 Wow, this is where it gets defiant and wants more wants more personal responsibility You're gonna have to get it in your own room. Yeah I need my own internet connection. I need to go live in the attic Is it you know, I guess There that used to be a big thing was like I need my own television my own phone line Those are the demands teenagers might make they may or may not get them at those things people wanted I bet it now it's just my own cell phone, right? Like that's pretty much covers all I remember I don't I mean I'm sure I wanted my own phone line You know because who wouldn't but like no one really had one that was like Because my the way that I've always worked There was a phone in the kitchen There was a phone in my parents bedroom and then at one point we got a portable phone So that could kind of roam around a little bit that was like Wow, yeah, the cordless. Oh, yeah Where you had to you know, take the antenna up and down But like you could like kind of go out into the front yard before But the the phone in my parents bedroom was always there because it was like an emergency thing Like they just had one like on the dresser and my friends would call in the middle of the night You know as you know in high school It's like you start getting phone calls at weird hours And they had just had it and so they just like threw a new phone line at me and was just like Now tell your friends to just call that line and stop all the rest of the houses So I was like bank error in my favor. Yeah, right That's great. Yeah I we never had a we had one phone on my entire Growing up. It was it was in We we had a kitchen that was kind of open into the fan into what we called the family room And it was like sitting right on the wall in between those two And my parents didn't put any other lines in the house. They were not even in their own room Was it the one with like the 12 foot or uh, like 54th cord cordless phone It was it was a beige phone with like the 12 foot Yes, ours was too. Yeah, like mounted on the wall. Yep. Mm-hmm.  I couldn't quite sit on the couch I don't need to get away from everybody watching tv in the other room. Yeah Yeah Good times good times when everyone had to share the only communication device That was widely available Well video folks. Thank you for spending some time with us today. We really appreciate it Audio folks stick around. There's a little bit more to come started a little early today


Wearing Claude Reigns with Ray Collins in a new play about town pain called In This Crisis on the Cavalcade of America, sponsored by The Buck. These are the times that try men's souls. The summer soldier in the Sunshine Patriot will in this crisis shrink from the service of their country, but he that stands it now deserves the love and thanks of man and woman. Those are words of Thomas Paine, written more than a century and a half ago, in such a crisis as America faces again today. Those words and town pain are written on the subject of our play tonight. This play, written by Robert Richards, is about a true story and about a legend, but town pain would say that it is true. The plant maker of other things for better living through chemistry presents In This Crisis with Ray Collins as the stranger and starring Claude Reigns as Tom Paine. It is New York in the air 1809 in an upstairs room of a little house on Grove Street.  His housekeeper, Madame Dolby, speaks to him. Oh no, Madame Dolby? Are you quite comfortable with your play? I'm quite, Madame Dolby. Quite, thank you. Madame Dolby, I can do this with you. Nothing, thank you. The front door locks? Yes, yes, Mr. Paine. Good. I don't want to be annoyed by a lot of lunatics bursting in here as I was used to. No. Come along. Yes, yes, Mr. Paine. Good evening, town pain. Good evening. Good evening. It's been a long time, hasn't it, town pain? Let me see. Who came to see me last night? Winter. 1776. That was the last time, wasn't it? Mr. Paine. Who are you? Who is it that you are talking to? Do you want to see me? It's all right, Madame Dolby. It's all right. It's just an old friend. How did he get in? And there was no... He let himself in. Now you want me to suffer and leave us alone? Yes, yes, Mr. Paine. So, do chat for an hour or two with an old friend and watch the sun go down. You know, I think I'm dying. You are, town pain. I find it hard to accept you at all sometimes. I don't believe in medicals, you know. Oh, come out, town pain. You're something of a miracle yourself. I am. Yes, you, from an impoverished tax collector to a leader of one of the great social and political movements of all the ages. Oh, enough town pain. That's a miracle you believe in, isn't it? I believe in myself, yes. I don't believe in things I can't see. You see me sitting over here, don't you? Come to think of it. You know, I've never seen you distinctly. Do you remember the first time? Oh, yes. I was a very new parliament. Representing the king's excise men, poor devils. Tried to get through little play. It was your first real fight. And you were a little frightened. Parliament, the king's ministers. You were waiting to be summoned. Everyone was giving you advice. No, town, don't forget. We'll take it before they launch it. I know, I know. That's great. Well, town, that's how it is. That's how it's always been. I don't want me to mention, I suppose, that if we don't get better wages, we shall starve. We'll be sure of town to be sure. But delicately, delicately, delicately, delicately, delicately. Mr. Thomas Paine. I am Mr. Thomas Paine. The lordships will see you now, Mr. Paine. Thank you. Remember now, town, delicately, delicately. This way. Remove your hat, please, Mr. Paine. The lords and ministers. The petitioner. Thomas Paine. They've opened Mr. Paine. Step up. No, what is it? The lords, I come before you as a petitioner for his majesty's offices of excise. We are aware of that, Mr. Paine. I must ask you to be as brief as possible. I shall be brief, the lords. In all loyalty and in all humility, his majesty's offices of excise wish to call with your lordship's attention the fact that their wages were set by only 100 years ago. And another once in all that time had been readjusted. It is no longer possible for these officers to live with our noble self-respecting no longer what they now receive. Mr. Paine, is your purpose here to obtain an increase in the salaries of his majesty's offices of excise? It is, my lord. For myself, I am disinclined to have more. If the salaries of these officers have been adequate for nearly 100 years, it is the most powerful of arguments that they are still adequate today. Am I right, my lords? Quite right. Very definitely. And as to honesty, Mr. Paine, you will find that we have very positive means of enforcing that. Amen, my lord? I think that will be all, Mr. Paine. All? Am I to understand it all that this is all you have to say? Do you question our lord, Mr. Paine? Question it. I not only question it, I question your right to render it. And before God, I'll find out one day how it is that some men are born with the right to enslave others who may not even question their enslavement. Mr. Paine, you may consider your service to the crowned Ahamann as of these days. I have already self-considered it. Well, how was it? Will the old boys give us another quitter, too? I'll give you nothing. What did they say? They said that one who's good enough for your great-grandfathers is good enough for you. In short, they said no. Well, come along, lads. We'd best be getting on. Sorry about that. You did the best you could. Well, we'll see you back at Lewis, eh? Yes, I suppose I should be back at Lewis. Good evening, Tom. Good evening. Good evening. I, uh... It's so dark. I'm afraid I do recognize you. I was sent by a countryman of your arms. Countryman of mine? Yes, in America. Well, I've been to America. Oh, then you're mistaken, sir. I know Dr. Franklin. I've never been in America in my life. But you have been thinking about going to America, haven't you? Why? Yes. I know a good deal about that country, Tom Paine. Dr. Franklin has spoken to me somewhat about America. Yes, but I thought of myself that I know even more. Oh, don't misunderstand me. But I have a curious knack of knowing what men will feel tomorrow. You're something of a perfect friend. In a small way, yes. Who are you? Time enough for that. The point is, you have been wishing that there were others who believed as you do, that you might find them and talk with them. And together with them, seek out some better way of life. Yes. I have wished that. With all my heart, suppose I were to tell you that there are such men in America. Who are you? You're going to be speaking in English. How am I to believe that you are a man who knows the sound of truth? Listen. In their hearts, the men in America are saying this to each other, that all men are creative and equal. And all men are creative and certain on any of their rights. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Do you believe that, Tom Paine? It should not be a battle cry for the whole world. I said, well, one day it will be. By the way, Tom Paine, there is a ship called the London Pocket, leaving very soon for Philadelphia. Are we only sure that this is not a dream? It is a dream, Tom Paine. But every forward step that men have ever taken since they lived in caves have started as a dream. But I made sure again that one can open, I think. Remember, Tom Paine, I promise nothing. But this can be the beginning. If you wish it, I do. You are listening to Claude Reigns on the Cavalcade of America sponsored by DuPont, maker of better things for better living through chemistry. As unclean continues, Tom Paine was arrived in America, is now the editor of the magazine in Philadelphia. Come in. Come in. Mr. Paine. I was not thinking of you. You are certainly to be congratulated, sir. Am I, Mr. Aitken? You will realize, sir, that since you have been editing the Pennsylvania magazine, its circulation has been a little tripled. I think perhaps congratulations for that are due more to you as owner than to me as editor. Come, come now, Paine. The credit's yours. I am in, sir, that it's the business of an editor to be concerned about the profits of his publication. It's the business of an editor to be concerned about the contents. Why, yes. So it is, I suppose, in a way. Our contents have been most unprofitable, Mr. Aitken. What? Well, to my mind, Mr. Aitken, there's this little powder in the air. It's mainly anger. On every April breeze, and when Jim Spistamon still believes the world is fragile, he's not tolerating these rumors of rebellion. It is all part of this policy of a hostage. I am in... It's what I'm not. Mr. Paine. What's that? It sounds like every bell in Philadelphia. Bells? Can someone be dead? I signed to a full of joy for that. That's what this goes to. Mr. Paine, there's been a battle. The Red Quartz fire in a minute, Lexington. Good heavens. So who won? I will tell them back, sir. The people are talking about raising a militia. I'm going out. Maybe a few courageous men can stop it. I'm going to wait. Where did you come from, Lexington? I'm from... It's our team. Oh, I knew it. It had to happen. That's what I like about you, Tom. But what's to be done about it? I thought you knew. 13 colonies spread along 3,000 miles of sea coast, all wanting something different, all with painted genesis. Is that a common thing they have in common? Yes. If they had the sense to see it, what do you think they want? Independence. Outlast. But how many more now, in April 1775, believe as you do? No, some. Some is nothing. Now, let me spend more. Someone was telling me. Someone was burning that word, independence on their hearts, and they had to have written it upon a steel. And who was to do that? Well, I will. If no one else. So you'll become a revolutionary panther tier. Hey, Tom Paine. I'll become whatever I must become for the cause of freedom. And then you should know this. There'll be no turning back. You'll be swapping the very vortex of it. You'll make converts, yes, but you'll make enemies as well. You'll give misunderstood, reviled, persecuted, and any of your own time and generations yet to come. There'll be no peace for you, Tom Paine, now, or hereafter. How do you know this? Who are you? You've asked me that before. Now I want to know. Very well. I, Tom Paine, am the first and last citizen of a country known as the United States of America. A country that is yet a dream that may only not become reality depending greatly upon you today. I am not young man. I am a nation. I am the posterity which one day may judge you, but which you today must judge, whether it is worthwhile to you that I shall be or not be. It is said. And now you know. I know that I care now, but is there no more road for running or fights against the terminal of this time? Yes, Tom Paine. And perhaps someday when your need is greatest, I'll come and tell you what it is that's a small matter. I've made my choice. So you have. Listen. That time of day the same day we know he is the spirit of 1776, 1786, but that's too long. But if men would believe what he and I believe, there'd be that southern spirit in 1776 when I say that's only common sense. You didn't get Tom Paine? Yes. That's only common sense. In other words, of course, to be scared out of your Tom Paine with that common sense, we're leading you to the country side Well, you remember those days when they made all the physics wrong, a reconciliation to the touchstone of nature.  Well, what did you say? It could still have crossed the line, which would have never asked, have your house been burnt?  Well, you are not like that, it knows it has. But if you have, I can still see it has. Well, you are not worthy of the love of husband, father, friend or lover. You have the heart of a coward. They listen, they believe you and they talk for independence. But even that was not enough. 1776, the fall of 1776. Do you remember that? You remember the army of General Washington, what was left of it? Poor wretches driven to the modern state of Northern Jersey. Hungry, freezing. It's hard enough to say it, General Washington, but we are profitable and we are breaking the facts. We're out of ammunition, out of food. They've got us all around. Most of this, I'll blame on you, Mr. Paine. Oh, Mesa? Yes.  Oh, I've never wavered since. But I tell you, not for 20,000 pounds a year. But I endure what all of us have endured for faith alone. Simon? Perhaps this time of a variety of good news. Captain Marsden reporting, sir. What? Small desertion, sir. Hold company this time. Where did they go? Home, I suppose, sir. Unless we'll have a moment to go, too. Well, thank you, Captain Marsden. Yes, sir. Good night, sir. Good night. Despite far the worst of it. Desertions. It's hard to blame the men, sir. No, I can't blame them. But we'll be generals without alarm in another week. Well, gentlemen, we're going to get into my own tip-start and weigh our chances. Good night to all of you under the arrest. Good night, sir. Good night, sir. Are you staying up all night, please? Yes, sir. Yes, I thought I'd try to write some sort of proclamation to the men. Well, good luck to your efforts. Thank you, sir. Well, Sergeant. Yes, sir? Sergeant. I bet you could name him. Yes, sir. Right here. There you are, sir. Thank you. As Sergeant, don't blame men. They know what the rest are thinking. What has happened to them? Wow, there it is, that is. Well, sir, they know what they're thinking. It's more than like a fatal ammunition. There's something down out of them nearly just to be there. I know, but what's the cure for that? Well, that's up to you, sir. You're our leaders. We're just plain followers. Do you even have to look to when things are bad to tell us where we're starting? Tell us the worst of it. Then tell us what to do. We'll follow you. You think it's as simple as that? We've done it before, sir. We've never stopped believing in what we're fighting for. If you'll show us how we can win, win, we will. You haven't lost your courage. Have this, Sergeant. No, sir. Really, sir? I thank you. Really, sir? Come on, Sergeant. He's right, you know, Tom Paine. Why are you here to tell me that I failed? No. Perhaps to tell me what will happen if you fail. No need of that. I know. The words won't come. This is crisis, Tom Paine. Last crisis, I'm afraid. No, not the last. There'll be others. There'll be something else. Let me see if I can show it to you. Look. A united nation stretching across a continent from sea to sea. One hundred and fifty million people living and working together, governing themselves in liberty and justice. The sworn enemy of all tyrants and oppressors. The hope of the whole world in time of trouble. The leader of the world in time of peace. Can you see that? I've seen it in my dreams a thousand times. It's only my hope to live for all my faith. It's only religion. I spoke to you once of a reward. Yet, it ain't my reward. But there's a special one reserved for you. If you triumph now, this shall be your reward. Each time you're active at this great nation that is in crisis, your words again will guide them and inspire them. There'll come a time when it's two centuries from now in such a crisis as you cannot now imagine when a president of those United States will carry these words of yours into every home throughout the land to give its nation hope and confidence. All of this shall happen if you triumph now. But why must you place this terrible responsibility upon me? I have not. The times are. Times to try their own souls. The pen. What is of the times that crime in souls would light the summer soldier and the sunshine patriot who, in this crisis, shrunk from the service of their country? O'er the town pain for the name came clocking back into the ranks when it was all over. They said, without town pain, we'd never could have won our independence. And after this, they said, never would we have been so vital to the outcome of our mighty crimes. Listen. Are the times that crime in souls. The summer soldier and the sunshine patriot were, in this crisis, shrunk from the service of their country that he, in its times of now, deserves the loving thanks of man and woman. Timmy, like hell, isn't easily conquered, yet we have this consolation with us at the hand of the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.  We did the toll to the future world at the city and the country, allowing that one common danger came forth to meet and to repulse it, throwing up the burden of the day upon Providence, which show your faith by your works. But God may bless you. Now town pain, after so many years, I find you here, dead-litten. And if a certain age, if you have no regrets, you are satisfied with all that's passed, and now the day is over. Sun is going down. Give me your hand. Sun is moving like freedom. Claude Reigns and thank you Ray Collins. Ladies and gentlemen, in a few moments, we will hear from Mr. Reigns again, and also announce our program for next week. Meanwhile, in connection with our story of chemistry, Dave Gay-Hutton now quotes from the Japanese Times an advertiser. By this newspaper, a Japanese propaganda radio station recently broadcasts an effect, this threat. Aluminium recites a poem of figures about United States production. Figures, however, cannot fight. Soon, quite different figures will fill the people of America with unrest. The announcement of Andrew Reigns, among some of the things he was positive, would soon put America out of the war, a shortage of camper. America is, you have to think faster than that, Mr. Hirohito. America isn't going to have any camper shortage, thanks to chemistry. Why do our enemies hope the United States will run out of camper? Isn't camper only a drug used in medicine? No. Today, America uses 6 million pounds of camper a year. Doing one important product in which camper is used, there's the plastic made of cellulose nitrate and camper. Because of that news and other newses, a shortage of camper right now would be a serious upset, it's true. But it's true also that only a few years ago, our camper supply might easily have been cut off. Natural camper is distilled from the wood of camper trees on the island of Formosa. We've tried to drill the trees in this country, but without much success. So Japan only a few years ago could let us have as much camper as she liked or as little, and there was nothing much we Americans could do about it. In fact, the Japanese used to squeeze us over an hour and then on purpose to get the price up. In 1918, another year when we were at war, natural camper sold for $3.75 a pound. But today, America's bottle camper supply will not be curtailed. Now will the price go soaring. For eight years ago, a depart manufacturing plant began to turn out camper in quantity. How is it made? From turpentine, which is extracted from pine tree stumps of cut over southern timberland. Taking time from the stumps in a complicated chemical process becomes synthetic camper. And this chemically made camper is actually cleaner and more uniform in quality than the natural gutter. And it costs not $3.75 a pound, but something like a tenth of that amount. Most important of all, the plant is making enough of it right now to take care of all of America's essential needs. Here is a graphic and convincing illustration of practical chemistry at work. A great wartime threat to America's industrial machine has been aborted by the plant, which brings you in peacetime better things for better living through chemistry. And now, ladies and gentlemen, our star, Quad Rain. A woman named who inspired in America the world to be free, Tom Payne was outstanding. Today, every civilized nation in the world is in mighty conflict to determine once and for all time whether those who think as Tom Payne did will continue to build a better world. Or whether freedom and liberty will disappear. Thank you. Thank you, Quad Raines. Next Monday on the Cavalcade of America the department will present another original radio play. It's titled, This Side of Hades. The thrilling and romantic story of a heroine of the Revolutionary War, Molly Pitcher. The star, Loretta Young. Don't forget, next Monday night, at the same time, Loretta Young as Molly Pitcher. DuPont is happy to remind you that Quad Raines is now to be seen in the Warner Brothers production, King's Row. Great Collins will soon appear in RKO's new picture. Then it will use The Big Street. The musical score for tonight's program was composed and directed by Robert Armister. This is John Heaston sending West Wishes from DuPont.


Backflash area clear! Ready, fire! Rock it out! Rock it out! Rock it out! The Neurotactical Research Team is studying the neurological effects of low-level blast exposure from shoulder-mounted rockets during heavy weapons training. We intervene during training and test our participants at strategic time points to identify both short-term and long-term effects and to create operationally directed guidelines to help mitigate these effects. Our ultimate goal is to improve our Warfighter's mission readiness, as well as to improve their overall quality of life. When we compare blast exposure from deployment to actually being a range safety officer or going through the land warfare cell, most of the exposures actually for me have came from the training. Usually per year we put six classes through, which would equate to 36 blasts a year, approximately six every other month. Usually after those blasts I feel a slight pinch in the backside of my head, sort of like a headache. My sleep seems very sporadic and my eyesight actually starts to blur in my right eye. Since the research team has arrived, we've cut down on the amount of exposures that the range safety officers have experienced. It used to be that they would go until there was no more students. Now it's switched to each instructor can only take six exposures a day and no more than that. I was a SEAL, I retired after 22 years, I was a medic, I show operations, independent duty corpsman. In my platoons I was RSO, we would shoot 15 Carl Gustafs or AT-4s in one day. You know, that's a common theme in almost all the guys that have been around for a while. I don't know how many of our guys have had, you know, moderate exposures to blast because the problem is unless you completely get knocked out, nobody goes to a hospital so there's no personal casualty report.  A mechanical amputee is one thing or a gunshot one is one thing or a burn, but the invisible blast guy that's whole, nobody looks at you to stop and say, are you okay or anything because it's not obvious. And hopefully we can help put together a really good surveillance program for NSW that will track that. Like a dive table because that's what we know as combat divers, just like a hearing conservation program or your vision. Well maybe it's time to also track exposure to blasts and nobody really knows what blast does and I'm privileged to be working with such smart people that care and that are really invested in what we're doing.


Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear opened his coronavirus briefing Monday by saying that the state is continuing to see sharp declines in the number of cases and the positivity rate. And those drops are also being seen in other areas such as hospitalizations, ICU admissions and ventilator use. With that in mind, the governor says he expects to be able to offer new guidance for how to deal with the virus next month. If these trends continue, we believe Kentucky will move out of the red and into the orange or even the yellow conservatively by March the 14th. That's when we will be in a much better place as long as we continue to see these declines and the rates of decline. With that in mind, our goal will be to provide new guidance as of that date, simplify some of our guidance that's out there. Certainly if we are in that better place, the guidance will provide significant more flexibility and recognition of where we are in the pandemic with not only cases and positivity declining, but also Omicron being something very different in terms of the level of disease it causes. At Pikeville Medical Center, we believe that together we can make a difference in the fight against cancer. We are proud to have patients who have experienced successful outcomes over many years. As always, we believe in the power of faith. Pikeville Medical Center, where cancer can be defeated. Versus previous variants. Public Health Commissioner Dr. Steven Stack echoed the governor's confidence about being able to relax some guidance. But he reminded Kentuckians that the virus is still something to take seriously. I share the governor's confidence that by the time we get to mid-March, we should be in a much better place. And I look forward to giving some additional or different guidance that hopefully simplifies the paradigm just a little bit. But still reminds us all we're in the middle of a global pandemic. It has surprised us and thrown curveballs multiple times over the last two years. And it's really, really imperative that we continue to take reasonable and responsible steps to try to minimize the risk that it gets worse so that once we have these gains, we can keep the gains and go on with our lives much more like we used to know them. The latest numbers show that Kentucky has seen 1.24 million cases of COVID, including more than 1,900 on Monday. 32 more deaths were reported Monday, raising the death toll to 13,416. More than 1,700 people are currently hospitalized with the virus, including 322 in intensive care and 162 on ventilators. The state's positivity rate is just shy of 18 percent.


That's right, but the federal government is united in its spending. That's right. See, Maria, that's what we need to say. We need to say united in spending of America, because that's what we are.  And so we just got to kind of like figure it out. Right. I mean, I, you know, good stuff. I mean, I picked up literally I signed four contracts today for. And if for all my people that were in the group last night, they know I was stressing on two of my contracts. Because we were, we didn't have the bonding. So like, we were able to, because they were negotiated jobs, we were able to talk with the government and have them push out the actual dates from when we had to actually deliver the bond. So we were able to sign the contract awards and then the government pushed out the bond date for us to allow us to actually accept the contract. So again, when you have relationships with these agencies, they can do all kind of things, make exceptions for you, change the rules. Because again, we, you know, it's they, they, they have that ability. But when you're just bidding blindly and you don't know the people, then it makes it really tough for you to ask for an exception to the rule. So again, you know, I'm telling people out there is that build those relationships, nurture them, develop them because they're going to pay off dividends in the long term. I know it seems easier to go on bid match, bid surge, bid sing and just bid, bid, bid. But I'm telling you those relationships, if it wasn't for those relationships, I would not have, I would have lost $1.2 million in contracts today if it was not for relationships. I can promise you that it was literally $1.2 million in contracts that we signed today that they wanted to give us, but we did not have our bonding. And because we didn't have bonding, that's a criteria of getting the contract. And we told them that we couldn't do it. So we were able to basically, ultimately what we did was we said that because of the winter conditions, we were going to start the projects after winter, which would be, you know, next year. And then could they then make the bonding due prior to us actually getting ready to mobilize and start the contract as opposed to like normal standards, it's due right after you sign the actual agreement. So we were able to push back the bond dates, right, in terms of when they were due in order to be able to fulfill the contracts. And because, again, the government is trying to obligate funds today. This is the last day obligate funds. So we worked it out and and yeah, free throw frame. It doesn't seem real, but it is. And so what I want to say is, again, they can do a lot of things out here like they could do a lot of stuff. Let me go check in my man's talent. Let's just talk to him real quick. What's up, Barbara world? What's up, man? Hey, what's going on, baby? How you doing? Yeah, I was asking the question, trying to see. How exactly do we class? I watched a video and the woman was talking about how she got started in government contracting and. What happened was for her to actually bid on those contracts, right? She was getting in advance to buy the materials up front. I don't know. The only time that I've seen them do that are really, really small items. Really small items. Yeah, it's far fewer in between that they do that on big stuff. You have to actually produce it in order to be able to get paid, right? But it's OK because what we teach is building your supplier credit. So you don't need them to give you an advance. What's the item that you're considering? Right now, I'm looking at a bid right now on beta.sam. What's the item? It's lighting fixtures. OK, lighting fixtures. OK, so let me give you an example. We have a student that just won a contract this year. I mean, this month, I'm sorry, that she bought a snowplow machine that was one hundred and like thirty thousand dollars. Well, OK, she doesn't have a seven hundred score. She don't. I don't even know if she got a six hundred score. I want to press her. I know she didn't have eight and she didn't have seven.  But because it was like you pick it on me now. But nevertheless, she went to the supplier and asked for credit to buy the item because it was going to the government. OK. So what you do is you go to the supplier who has the item to see if they will give extended credit. What's the process of applying for credit, right? With that particular company, that account or becoming a distributor for that particular company so that you can get a credit account set up. OK, and then that's going to help you in the long run. Anyways, because I'm going to tell you why. A couple of things that's going to help you with is because, one, you should get better pricing as a distributor. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So now you can be more competitive. And then the other thing is now you're actually building a business because you're building a relationship with the supply company. Right. So even if you don't get that bid, that may be your new industry. And what if something is something that's like a one off thing and you don't you won't even use that company very often? I was. But the thing is so what happens if it's so let's say I don't think this girl is going to get into some snow plows very often. Yeah. That's what I'm saying, right? Like, I mean, I live in Florida. We don't need snow plows. I don't know. It looks like 42. I'm in Orlando, so there you go. So like, so to me, I don't think anyone buys snow plows all the time. So that's the one thing. But what she said was because, again, going back to the government contract tip or angle because it was for a government contract, they knew she wasn't buying a snow plow like just done on a snow plow. You get me? Like, that's kind of what I try to explain to people is like, you guys don't understand supplier credit is not like a credit card. You can't go and waste it. We should go buy three snow plows put on a front yard. Like they just you can't waste. So they understand that the only reason why you'd want a snow plow is to sell it to the government. Well, the government, so they're basing off the government's credit. Yeah. So you get me? So it's a lot easier than you think to get credit set up with these people. In fact, Johnny Chat just said to me, he got his credit line set up recently. He thanked me for that. So again, it's a lot easier than you believe. Most of us just don't try. And I'm sure if you're on my IG, you've seen someone in my feet, right? Like you didn't even try. You already discussed. You don't whoever told you about getting advance. I promise you that person. What do you think? What do you think they're not? They're not. I would not. I would say they're not credible. What do you think it's small, though? Because she was saying that it was a she was saying it was a small contract and it was like a hundred and something grand or something like that. It's not true. It's not true. OK, it's not true. That's not true. I'm telling you it's not true. OK, I'll just make a show. I'm just asking because I'll say I don't believe her. I don't believe I don't know what she is and I don't believe her. I don't. I would want her to show me the advance check. The country of her is $75,000 check to buy the material. She's like, she's like that hand that you would check. Like, I'm like, like, that sounds kind of kind of crazy. You know what I'm saying? The government. So you're telling me the government is just handing people checks to buy stuff with no repercussion, like just here. Get a check by it and show up with it. Yeah. I don't know. Be careful. There's a lot of charlatans out there. There's a lot of charlatans. There's a lot of people out there, especially if they are IG. Like, there's a lot of, you know, I mean, there's a lot of people say stuff. And I will say this, when it came time for PPE, they did make those mistakes, but they don't do them anymore. Gosh. And they learned from that. In fact, I interviewed someone where governments literally lost tens of millions of dollars giving out checks to people in advance for PPE. But that was a pandemic. That's a once in a lifetime, you know, type of issue. But for someone to and by look, why would you let's say that it did happen to her? All right. So maybe I don't do a good job enough of promoting, but people are asking me, do you have a course? I want a structure curriculum. I like what you're doing. I like the IG. I like the YouTube. Visit us over at govconedu.com to find out all of our offerings for one low price. 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