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So look, the last couple of days, you know, there was really a big surprise that the euphoria finally got to the tipping point. If you traded Friday's session, you kind of saw the big, you know, really, really huge reversals in names like SMCI, you know, really, really big move there, or Friday's highs, names like NVIDIA, really big reversal of Friday's highs, you know, that you could go through pretty much the whole list AMD, pretty much any single semiconductor name. So that really was in the surprising part. If you've been watching kind of this broadcast for the last several weeks, yeah, we talked about this. Eventually, the euphoria was going to end, gravity was going to kick in, and eventually anybody who's kept on just buying FOMO off the top of the range, well, you saw what happened, right? You saw exactly what happened, or as we're saying, it's happening. That's exactly what's happening right now. We are in kind of a really big, aggressive back test of what we've seen now in the last couple of days. The question is, well, is this the start of something more? Is this finally the start of the bubble aspect of every single rally that we've seen for the last 25 years, and the way that we're going to end exactly the same way? And I think that's a little too early, a little too premature to kind of talk in that direction. I think it's much more constructive to talk about levels and what the bulls and the bears need to kind of take control of those levels. If you guys remember about a week ago, we had this really big move down one day that Dow was down like 500, 600 points, and as it was down 300, and it gave us a line in the sand here, right? And the line in the sand was this 433, 65 level on the QQQ, and that's the rising 20-day support. If you look at the rising 20-day support today, it put in a higher low from the last week's channel, but it still tested the 20-day moving average twice now in the last week, week and a half, okay? That's going to be our line in the sand going forward. Guys, write this down. You got 433, 65, okay? That is going to give us a bigger clue, more of a case study of is this indeed the start of the quote-unquote bubble, or was this just another calm, aggressive, sometimes violent pullback, all that into a combination into the blender and to see what happens next. Again, I'm not going to speculate. I don't think anybody could speak definitively what they think is going to happen next, but there is an obvious rotation out of the high flyers. Matter of fact, if you look at today's high flyer list, or at least the stocks that had been high flyers, they're predominantly semiconductors. You have a little bit of wingstop here sprayed in here, but you have predominantly semiconductor names, and they were the ones they were taking to the woodshed. Again, this is the group that led the rally higher, so you have to assume when gravity kicks in, this is going to be the group that's going to get taken down first. If you look at every single one of the really big high flying names, they did give you a really good case study and potential pivots that could confirm in the future. Let's talk about some of the names. NVIDIA obviously is the biggest one because this one led the market higher. As you can see here in the last two days, it lost a five-day moving average, it lost a 10-day moving average, and it closed right above it.  If you believe in the theory that stocks trade from supply to supply, demand to demand, you can see here, I would stop perfectly on the 10-day moving average. The 10-day of NVIDIA is the line in the sand going forward, whether it's tomorrow, whether it's the next day, or whether it's never. But at least we have a point of reference here. Look at AMD, right? AMD is kind of the same thing. AMD had this big move, inverted hammer, which is a sell signal, came down to a 10-day moving average. Again, this is the line in the sand. You can go through pretty much every semiconductor name. It's going to show you exactly the same thing. Where the curveball came in today was not the heavy selling in the AMDs, the semiconductors of the world. Heavy selling came in today on the other fang names, right? The other magnificent seven. What was the last time you saw a move like this on Meadow? Meadow was down today a lot. Meadow was down at one point about $30 on the day. At one point it lost the 20-day moving average. It got back above it, and now we're going to watch the lows of the 20-day. I'm assuming if the Q's lose the 20-day, so will Meadow. I'll look at, for example, a name like... Let me see what else I can give you a point of reference to. Meadow was kind of like the big deal. If you look at the names that got beat up, right? Beat up for the last three, four weeks, they all rallied. The theory behind that is, well, the money came out of the ones that were really, really good, taking the market higher, and it went into the have-nots, right? Google, second day in a row, it rallied. Apple, second day in a row, it rallied. And Tesla finally had a green day, although it put in an inverted hammer. Again, inverted hammer is usually not a good thing. The point of the matter is, you can make a very, very... You could make a compelling argument that this is a bullish case or a bearish case. Well, here's the bullish argument. The bullish argument is, yes, while the high flyers are resting, the high flow now is going to go to the have-nots, the trailers, right? The old leaders, the Teslas, the Apples, and the Googles. Maybe, maybe not, right? The bearish sign of this is, well, the money's coming out of these names. It's a temporary fix. These stocks have not had the light of day for the last three weeks, even the last two months, you can make an argument. This is just a knee-jerk reaction. This is a temporary situation. This is a Band-Aid on his severed head.  And it's a very, very good combination as well. But at least this point is we don't have to guess. Right now, for example, Tesla is sitting in a range. If you guys remember the last time Tesla sat in the range, with the last, you know, for the last month or so, and it came out of the range and gave us 20, 25 points in three days. So I don't care how long Tesla sits in this range, because we know it's going to get back above the 5-day moving average and continue to debt-cad bounce on Apple out of Google. Or it's finally going to get back to the bottom of the range here and not only confirm the daily chart, it's going to also confirm the weekly chart, which is sitting here and building below this linear aggression line and below daily supply. And that's a very, very big deal. If I'm a betting man and I'm not, I probably guess in the next couple of days, Tesla sees the lowest risk of the highs. But hey, that could change that heartbeat, right? I have no problem trading the upside of this thing as well. Again, I'm not here to be right or wrong. I'm not here to gauge risk. I'm here to collect data and trade on the channel that the market is confirming, not the channel that I want, that the market is confirming. And that's exactly where we enter tomorrow's session. Again, you can see here, Tesla's gotten rejected back to bad day off the 5-day moving average. And also Tesla's held the bottom range now four times a row. Something has to give here, right? Something really has to give here. And I'm going to wait patiently for it to see which side actually confirms. One interesting setup potentially for tomorrow is ARM. And the reason why I say that, tomorrow I believe ARM has a lockup period which expires, which basically means insiders can sell stock. 20 years ago, this was considered a free trade. This is a free money trade. What I mean by that was, 20 years ago, when you knew a company was going to come out of their lockup period, all you had to do is short the stock into the close. You woke up the next morning pre-market, the stock is down $3, $4, $5. That changed about 10 years ago. And now it's a 50-50 shot. I've seen stocks come out of lockup periods, come out of lockup periods, trap shorts in the morning down $2, $3, go red to green and take out the previous day's channel. That's on the table. So tomorrow I'm kind of watching this thing from both sides. If it tomorrow washes out in the morning, washes out in the morning, starts going green, I'm going to start looking for ranges to take it back to the upside. However, on the other side is if it gaps up for whatever reason pre-market and they trap shorts pre-market and it goes red later, then I will be looking at today's range to see if this thing has more legs to the downside. The coolest part, what I did see about today's session was kind of like the anti-trade on the analyst recommendation. This was kind of a big clue today about what was going to happen with the market. You had NVIDIA upgraded this morning by Mizzou and what happened was NVIDIA got sold off initially about 30 points. It came back, it did very, very well at some point and then it came all the way back again which basically tells me this is the first time on the upgrade they sold the stock that's not usually a good thing. This morning also SMCI got downgraded and it will show you the pivots in a second. This thing went down 100 today. The market is setting up in a very, very delicate way. I think the bears right now, just in the last couple of days are obviously showing a lot more control than they did probably in the last 14 months. What I'm seeing from this point, considering we already know what our line in the sand is on the Q's, this 433.65 level, I'm seeing here, at least from early indications that the bears know they have a good hand. They're just waiting to kind of borrow a term from the poker world. They're kind of borrowing time. They want to see one more card coming on the river to see if they actually have the strong hand. That's why this 20-day moving average is very, very strong. Let's talk about today's pivots. Today was really aggressive right from the word go. The problem is after the first 10 minutes and it was great. The first 10 minutes was phenomenal. The market kind of went into a holding pattern ahead of tomorrow's CPI, which is understandable, a little annoying, but hey, is anybody going to really, really complain after catching one of these pivots? The problem was, not really a problem, but the situation was that all three of these pivots went at once. I trained personally in the video today. If you traded today, Tesla, excuse me, if you traded today Square, that was great. If you traded today SMCI, that was great, but literally all three went at the same time. This was the pivot here on NVIDIA 865. It builds below, it can flush. NVIDIA got killed. Absolutely killed on that 865 break. If you see it, look at the 60-minute view. Here is the 865 break. Here is the 865 break. This thing just got absolutely... I'm sorry, here it is right here. It got absolutely destroyed. It went down about 30 points really, really quickly and started ramping up. It actually went green at some point, but this was an absolutely phenomenal trade. SMCI was exactly the same thing, right? SMCI was exactly the same thing here. SMCI 1090 held back-to-back these. If it builds below, it can flush.  Incredible move here. Square, 8185 and 8329. To the upside, two big levels. Nice move. Really, really nice move on Square. As you can see here by the 60-minute view, it got above this whole channel here. It got above this, the 8130s. It got above the 8330s. It went all the way to 84. Really, really big move there as well. Other than that, that's it. Nothing really happened for the rest of the day. AMD, we put it out pre-market. 205, 60 needs to build to flush. By the time the market opened, AMD was 201s. I don't think anybody traded it. Boy, oh boy, you really need a lot today.  Nothing really mattered. So that's it, guys. That's it. Tomorrow, a very, very pivotal day. We got CPI data coming out at 8.30 a.m. And now let's see if the bears actually do have control or was this just a minor two-day blip on the radar for the bulls. Tomorrow we start the resumption back to the upside. Guys, God bless everybody. Have a great night. And with God's help, I'll see you all tomorrow. Take care.


This is the end of spring day, but it will soon be summer and we'll want our irrigation systems to work So here's ten things I've learned that could help So my first tip, which is something you're probably already doing is to have multiple tanks It's it tends to be a lot easier to get lots of small tanks rather than one big tank And the cost tends to be cheaper as well because small tanks are more easily available Means you're dividing up your store of water So if you have a problem anywhere contamination or a leak It's confined to that area only and of course it means that you can have be storing water in lots of different places So we've got storage up here in different places coming off different downpipes But also at other places around the gardens. So wherever we need the water we got water close by This one was free off free cycle 700 litres just needed a frame to stop it sagging when it was full of water And my second tip is to do with light so opaque tanks like this one or most water buts Protect the water inside from the Sun, which means you don't get so much algal growth Which ultimately clogs up your tanks and your fittings and so on so even though these cost a little bit more money They're worth it because it just saves you maintenance in the long term The other thing that we've done here, which I would do with any tank is to Protect it from the Sun the tank itself needs protecting because the UV will break down the plastic over time So here we've used flowers. These were already here when we arrived. We just grew them over the tank We've got a great vine that we planted on the side here The thing that's most vulnerable to the Sun we've discovered is the lid and so we've Protected this with a flower pot and just a stone on top to stop it blowing away So the two way benefit the plants protect the tank But at the same time benefit from the thermal mass of the water inside the tank My third tip is to replace any clear connecting pipes like this one with opaque ones Now these kind of connecting pipes are already vulnerable to silk collecting in the bottom Wherever the pipe goes down and back up again There's a bit of that going on here, but this is also clear and because it's clear Light can get in is full of water. It grows heaps of algae. We came out one day and in the summer We'd emptied the tank the previous day. We've had a deluge overnight, which we knew was coming We expected the tank to be full. It was still empty Because this was completely clogged with algae. So replace the clear pipes. We're going to do that in a moment the other thing to bear in mind is These fittings that go on the sides of tanks and allow you to connect two tanks together with a hose And you can buy them for waterbots connecting waterbots together And they're fine for that because you can easily put your hand in and screw a nut on the inside But if you're connecting two large tanks together like IBC's Where you've got a reasonably small hole in the middle and you need to connect from the side of the tank then This really isn't a good system because This one with this one you have to put it through from the outside and put the nut on the inside Which is really difficult to do It'd be much better to have a fitting with the flanges on the inside You just push it through and you screw the nut on the outside So my fourth tip is to store your water as high as possible to maximize the area You can irrigate using gravity alone So what we've done here is we've got this area of gabions and we've put the tanks on top of the gabions Even though the gutter is only a couple of feet above that level and we've used a diverter That we've plugged into the downpipe Quite high up. This does increase the maintenance Because we need a ladder to check that but it does mean we can store water high and we can irrigate this whole garden Without needing any kind of a pump So my fifth tip is to Start small with your storage and add to it only if you need to bigger isn't necessarily always better Having water sat around in a tank that's not being used most of the time is going to go stagnant And apart from anything else you've paid for the extra tank So we bought one tank to begin with here In the first year it was fine But as we added a few more things that needed irrigating in the second year it ran out But instead of buying another tank at that point We just added a second input to the tank so that it refilled more quickly So a second diverter we've got three downpipes here last year we had the drought and It still ran out again. So then we added a second tank But actually it was cheaper to buy a diverter than it was to buy another tank So my sixth tip is to ensure that all of your tanks have an overflow system in place What you don't want is water coming off a roof into a tank and then overflowing all over the land creating mud and Particularly because water tanks tend to be close to buildings. That's really some way that you don't want lots of mud so if you use a diverter like the one on the wall behind us here that Automatically deals with the overflow because when the tanks are full the water goes back there and down the down pipe What we've also added here is once these two tanks are full there's a third pipe here Which at the moment is just bent up so the water doesn't come out this way But if we wanted to utilize the water from here, we could then take it downhill to somewhere else We have the possibility of a pond in mind But then of course we would then have to think about when the pond is full where does the water go? So my seventh tip is in addition to clearing your gutters and filters and so on in the autumn when they're likely to be full of leaves Check them again in the early spring Because what you don't want is to get to summer and then realize that your tanks haven't been filling up because there's been a blockage somewhere These diverters have a filter and we check these regularly Just done them recently hence the reason why that's clear But that can be full of all kinds of things wood lice and lichens and sticks and such So it's good to check it now So there's still going to be plenty of rain hopefully to fill them up for the summer My eighth tip is to water with a watering can and not a hose A hose is a great way to empty a tank very quickly if you're attached to the mains You never notice but if you're using a hose from a tank suddenly it's empty So a watering can takes a little bit longer, but it's a known volume So when I water with this I know that there's 10 litres here if I use 10 cans on the garden That's 100 litres that means I've got 10 days worth of water from a full IBC So it's measurable and what's more as I'm walking around doing my watering. I Also get to see what's going on in the garden I notice things that if I was just using a hose from a distance I would never see My ninth tip is that a pond should you have room for one is probably the cheapest way of creating water storage The problem with ponds for irrigation is that you're filling them up and emptying them on a regular basis And a lot of things that might want to live in a wildlife pond or an agriculture system Really want more consistency in terms of the level So if you're creating water storage, then it's pretty much a dedicated system That said if you already have something like a fish pond So this pond here needs about 30% of the water changing every few weeks in theory you could utilize the water you're taking out as Irrigation and feed for your plants and hours do really well on it My last tip is to reduce your demand for water so you need less storage and we can do that in several ways We can improve protection from the wind which can create evaporation off plants. We can protect the soil from the Sun by using mulches or covering the soil with plants Heavier mulches like which it work well around perennials around annuals You're better off with something like a finished compost because that can protect the soil from drying out But at the same time add organic matter to the soil which will ultimately improve its ability to hold water in the future And by covering soil we keep it cool Which means the water can infiltrate when it rains much more easily than if the soil is exposed to the Sun and it's hot And the warm air in the soil is rising. It pushes the water away So that's my 10 tips and I hope at least one or two of them are going to be useful for you


Welcome folks, we have the Dow industry is up 152, Nasdaq is up 69, S&P is up 22, Gold contract up $3.80, trading at $13.0550, you have Silver up $0.10, $15.42, notes and bonds to get the 10-year note up to tick, trading $123.10, $123.15 rather, 30-year bond up $12, $147.11, what you have out here in the 10-year folks, you are at a 12-month low, it is yielding 2.519 right now and on a longer-term basis, that baby actually looks like it's going to get on a 2.1, broke a swing point today, has the volume behind the move, so pretty incredible, King-Dollar, now this is pretty incredible, King-Dollar is up 814 ticks, you trade 96.015 and King-Dollar just has refused to give it up, the bulls and bears they are fighting like wildfire and right now, I would say that the bulls are actually winning on the steal, what you had yesterday is that good old King-Dollar went lower, had volume on the move lower, guess what, you get volume on the move higher out here today, now what this is all about, there's no doubt, this is all about Brexit and the European Union because what you have out here, they are playing hardball with the UK and the hardball they're playing is that they are saying that listen, we'll give you an extension till June but you have to actually get it ratified that you are actually going to leave before we're going to give you an extension, so what's on the table out here once again is a hard Brexit because what you've had out here, you get the Euro, just went from a price point of 114 to 113 and the pound that is also getting smashed, that went from a price point of 132 to 130, big numbers, so of course both of those pulling getting much weaker has given that dollar strength, we're going to take a look at the S&P, it's going to be intriguing watching this market come into the close folks, so what you're doing out here is testing the highs of Tuesday, that high in the spies 284.36, we hit 284.25, bottom line is to get 34 million versus 90, versus 214 million, so we'll see where this baby shakes out but that's exactly what these markets are doing today, they're testing that high of Tuesday, to recap out here we have the Dow Industries up 168, Nasdaq up 73, S&P up 24, stay right there folks, I'm Amnesty Steve Rhodes coming up, then Dave will be right after that and I'll come back this afternoon, have a great one folks, have a safe one.


Mae gennym i'r gwybod, os ydych yn rhoi gallu cael ei bod yn ei gweld yn cael ei fod yn ymddangosol ar gyfer sydd sydd gyda Robin, yn gweithio cyfan yr oedol yn cyfnodol yn gyfredigol yn yr oedol yn cyfeirio cyfnodol sydd gyda'r gwasanaeth yn ei gweithio'r gydag, ac mae'n cyfrwng ymddangosol o'r ddau cyfnodol. Ac mae'n gweithio gydag o'r ffordd o'r gweithio gyda'r cyfan, Jane. Rydw i'n cael ei gael? Yes, in my background I have a background in local government politics, I was a counciller for a number of years and leader of a local authority and professionally I'm a medical doctor and specialised in psychiatry, child psychiatry. So twin approaches. So perfect to write a book called Losing Political Office but you couldn't have known that there'd be a general election to test your arguments. Quite so, I had no idea and indeed the country had no idea. So it's an appricite time, the book was published at the beginning of this year. So what happens to those politicians and their families who weren't perhaps expecting to lose political office? Well it's very interesting particularly at this time because as you know we have a fixed term parliament act and so the last election having been 2015, the expectation, the next election will be 2020. So suddenly a snap election is called. So spare a thought for some of the MPs. My research was on MPs and council leaders but given the general election the focus of the moment is on parliament I'll talk a bit more about MPs. And there may well be a number of MPs who were thinking about standing down in 2020 and making plans accordingly or not making plans at this stage because they thought they had time in hand. Suddenly they have to make the decision do they go now, do they wait, have they got a job, they haven't got a job, somewhat of a quandary. And you've interviewed some people who in previous elections either walked away from office or lost office, whether surprisingly or not? Yes that's right, I interviewed 30 politicians in total but that included 10 politicians who are currently in office but two groups of both MPs and council leaders, 10 of whom had chosen not to stand again and 10 of whom had been defeated at an election. And of those 20 politicians I interviewed a number of their partners as well, if they had partners. Yes gosh well, did they cope well? Well it was a mixed picture essentially. I mean just to say at the outset everybody thinks that if you choose to stand down that it's all plain sailing, it's all fine. And on the contrary if you're all defeated that it's absolutely dreadful. Now my research showed that it was a bit more a mixed picture than that, that whether you choose to go or whether you're defeated has some bearing but it is not the overwhelming determining factor. Of course if you choose to stand down the one thing that you do have on your side or which you don't if you're defeated is that you do have time to plan. But as of the 2017 election that is actually not the case. So I think the important point to stress is whether you stand down or whether you're defeated it is a loss of what has been the loss of political office.  But I think there are distinctive factors of being in political office specifically. Incredibly consuming of time, you might be one under the country, your family very much, it might be something certainly I interviewed MPs who would want to be MPs since they are age of five or six, they've thrown everything into this job.  And then suddenly whether you choose to go or not it stops and it does just stop. But do they then not become the editor of a national newspaper or a local newspaper? Well if you've been chance of the Exchequer then you've got a sporting chance of becoming editor of at least a local paper. But actually the evidence is very clear, both from academic literature more generally and it was born out in my research that if you're an MP on the back benches or even a relatively junior minister of state, actually it's really difficult to find employment. And people are surprised by this. There's this idea of a revolving door and they walk straight into corporate boardroom. In the UK that is absolutely not the case and many MPs struggle very hard over quite a long period of time in order to find any employment at all. Because if you think about it, suddenly you have very little income and certainly over a period of time you have much less income than you had. Council leaders have no financial cushion of any sort at all. And actually if you've been an MP for under two years you don't even get the standard redundancy pay. If you support a family then actually it is an urgency to get income and that's quite a side from suddenly losing your status, your social network, everything. And do they stay in the area of their council or their constituency or London because they've been in Parliament or what? Where do they go? Well, essentially council leaders, by the very nature of the job, remain by and large in their home. It's a different picture for MPs because unless they represent a London constituency, which relatively few do, they will have had a weekly commuting life. And I was very struck a number of the MPs, those who had lost now, more so than those who had stood down, but a number who had lost really couldn't bear to go back to their constituency. There were some exceptions, there were some exceptions, but because it had been the scene of a defeat, perhaps unexpected, and they really graphically portrayed powerful stories of walking in the street and people, friends and neighbours, not quite knowing. Did you vote for me? Did you not vote for me? And it's not just the MPs, it's the MP's family. So if they had established a home, often over many years in a constituency, perhaps a job, work, friend, social network, if suddenly the overwhelming imperative is to get away, to get out, can't bear to be anywhere near, that's a huge disruption for the family. So that comes through to me there, the title Losing Political Office, you're saying it really is a loss even if you choose to walk away?  I think it's really important to stress that whether you stand down or whether you're defeated, it is a loss. And we know from the psychological literature that all change, even positive change, involves loss. And it is a loss for the vast majority. Now I should state that there were a small number of MPs whom I interviewed, for whom the experience of being an MP had either always been or had become very uncongenial. And I can write more about that. Really to do I think with a degree of media scrutiny, the press intrusion and for one some views about the changing role of an MP. Now for that small number they had been very keen to leave and sort of fled from the commons almost. And for them it was a slightly different experience, there's a huge relief at not being an MP. But for the majority this is something that they had wanted to do mostly for ever. Loved it, enormously valued it, pulled their heart and soul into it, whatever political party. You sound sorry for them. Well I do, I have a great respect for politicians because I think it's a difficult job and I think it's become the evidence from my study but elsewhere is it's becoming increasingly difficult job, particularly for MPs. There's a great deal of popular cynicism in politicians and what they do. But you know any democracy depends on having good politicians who serve us well. But the media seems to revel in and thinks the public follows in the defeat of certain people at each election. I think that's right and I think it's difficult to separate, it's almost impossible to separate the political from the personal. Clean any democracy it's really important that we can kick politicians out. I'm not making the argument that we shouldn't be able to do that. That's absolutely right. All I'm saying is spare a fault for the person underneath that and indeed their families. Because that experience is or can be really really difficult and just spare a fault I guess. Can we help them or can you help them as an expert with developed resilience, prepare them for it? Is there a lesson in what they go through for the rest of us? Well I think there is. I think first of all just come to the point you made about the public reveling in it. I can understand that from a political point of view but I won't name them. But there have been some high profile people whose demise whatever political party has been greeted with cheering from the rafters. And again it's understandable but the experience of that for the person is very different. And of course bear that mind. They are surrounded by flashlights flashing all over the place. They know they have got to look fine but of course inside they are absolutely devastated. And just if we bear that in mind. And yes I mean I'm not advocating for therapy for politicians either standing down or losing the seats. That's not what I'm arguing at all. I'm actually saying something very very simple. First we'll spare a human thought. There are some really very very simple and very simple steps that can be taken in order to smooth the transition from political office. Don't cross the money at all. It's not about money. It's about a bit of thoughtfulness really. Planning if you can plan certainly for those who are standing down. I was very struck. There's only one MP I talked to who had planned standing down with great care. But planning does help. If you're defeated of course it's much more difficult to plan because you can't think that you're going to lose. And of course in this particular election 2017 there have been a number of MPs who probably didn't think for a minute they were going to lose. And they're suddenly out on their ears. So planning is important. Acknowledgement. I was very struck by how the political parties all of them really took very few steps even to acknowledge the contribution that MPs have made over a period of time. And that hurts. They don't make use of their skills. There's almost a free good to be used. But because of the way it's handled both some of the politicians I talked to but particularly their partners were so furious at the lack of acknowledgement. And as we've seen actually earlier this week very interestingly one of the things that has sort of fuelled political ire in the leadership of the government has been that initially there was no mention at all of MPs who've been turfed out completely unexpectedly. So it fuels a political fury which I think we just have to understand. So finally we the public, the citizens, the voters what should we take from it? Is it about us being nicer or is it about us learning also in our own lives? I think there is stuff to learn from our own lives but I think you know when in a relationship with politicians they represent us. This is not just a private matter. So I think from our point of view of course from political view if your political opponent has been defeated by all means cheer for the rafters from a political point of view but just bear in mind the human, the person and that. But also I think the other thing to bear in mind whether we're employers, academic institutions, private companies, public sector, recognise the skills. Because actually politicians have acquired many skills in office and it actually we find that employers are slow to recognise the skills that they have. So I think there's a great deal that we can learn and I think if we were able to smooth the path both into political office and out of political office that would serve us all better. Because we all want to be represented by people who've got some sense of who we are, the experiences that citizens generally have and I'd like to see more fluidity into political office and crucially out of political office. Dr Jane Roberts, thank you very much for helping us to gain some understanding of citizenship and governance from those who are losing political office.