There's a state record What's up guys Joe Holland here back on the ice fishing trail We're gonna shoot a little bit different video today than you've ever seen in the state of Maine We're gonna catch something that you rarely see. There's not many places. They exist. We're gonna catch some rock bass Yes, there are rock bass in Maine I've only caught them in one place in the entire state and that's in the anderskog and river That's where I am today. I've caught them out of state through New York Champlain's got a bunch of them a lot of places have a bunch of them It's kind of looked upon as a little bit of a trash fish, but I'm gonna target them. I've been I've been looking for them for the last maybe hour They're schooled up with with some crappy and I found the mega school of rock bass It's probably the biggest school of rock bass in the entire state if you couldn't believe that and what it is is It's just off of a big sand hump outside of the current where it drops from about eight foot down to 20 You can't tell it's 20 foot deep on the electronics because they are so thick They're up to about 14 13 foot and you can't even see your baits when you get it down there So I'm gonna get set up here.  I've drilled holes I got holes about 20 foot around me, and I haven't seen many so we're kind of right on top of them here Crappy mixed in with them are really small Whoa, there's a big old rock bass size. He's rock bass good. How's it going with you?  Yeah, I got a question for you. Can you keep rock bass? Can you keep rock bass? Good I just started to I Got about a million right here.  They're huge. I threw back two bigger. No, I got a camera rolls that cool. You're fine. You're good Yeah, you're good, man. So I've caught one of these before Up further up. Yeah, they've really like up by the the falls. Yeah. Yeah, I caught my first one probably Ten years ago by the falls But look at this. Are you familiar with electronics? So this is all I do now pretty much This is actually like 20 foot deep right here and they're stacked up to about 14 I love that. I got them. There's crappie mix man. They're all small. Yeah Yeah, there's schools like that in here though. It's unbelievable a crappie or rock bass. Oh, whoa, whoa more a crappie I honestly I might take it if you don't mind taking some more pictures for the biologists They know they're in here. Yeah, I think I had this I think I'll let the state record go about an hour ago Well, these are the biggest ones I've seen Like two of them. Well, there isn't a state record. Those that could be the state record really because there's no Let's do it. So they have to create a new category if you want to catch them Yeah, yeah Boy, yeah, those are I know I caught I caught probably Quite a few bigger buddy of mine eats a lot of bass. I don't eat that. I got thinking because he'll eat pan fish too And I was like, you know, I bet he's never eaten a rock bass just because how rare they are in Maine This is the only bottle of water I've ever seen in this. This is the same for me, too Because I caught one this year and I'm like did have bright red eyes. Yes, open water. Yeah. Yeah, so I Was like, I know that's not a crappie. I know it wasn't a sunfish. I'm thinking maybe a hybrid and then I Showed the biologists and you know, there's a rock bass. So I guess their belief is that they came in from They came in from Sure, I got a scale too if you want I wish I kept the two bigger ones but honestly, no that I got thinking about it I'm like, there isn't a state right now for rock bass. Oh, but I'm like as far as keeping them I didn't want to break the law, but I'm like, I'm thinking like there's no way the state would be against Oh, no, no, and I think they if they start going other places, they'll probably be more aggressive about hey These are invasive. They explain that these are more aggressive even then Yeah, even more aggressive than like crappie and stuff They catch them and the closest I've ever seen them to Maine was Lake Champlain Yep, and there's guys there that actually fish fish them and they can sell fish there Yeah, they actually have full commercial markets on like Vermont Champlain that whole area. Yeah They're not worth as much the rock bass, but those are like a little bit big for even that's that's big for For even the Vermont strain. Yeah, like I said, I I just this year caught one out of here So I had never even but those are those are staving. I don't even know how old those would be those are several years old I gotta say they're probably eight or ten years old. Yeah, that's the that's the crazy part about fisheries management is right like Obviously, they've been reproducing for ten years. So they could have been in here for 15 or 20 They're thinking that came in from the Hampshire. No, and basically as a state law, I mean crappie crappie pike that's yellow perch white perch white perch There's only a couple ponds in the state that have a limit one of them is sabbatis and it's a limit of 25 So so but there's people that I've seen fill buckets with and now it's historically I think now with competition from crappie and just the pressure it gets they won't be guys 25 I've seen some fit there was a group of ducklings Like following their mom and I saw a fish come out and it was like seven or eight of them I was just watching them and it was just happenstance and at least two of them But if the up to four were gone afterwards, so There was a there's a huge fish in here So they're gonna be able and I've bumped them in the spring too when they're kind of like cooling off after spawning In shallow areas and they're just monsters. Yeah, like over 30.  You run into a light light braid on that. Yeah, I got Like I said, I don't think there is one I love those jigs Aren't they awesome? Yeah, those the tungsten ones. Oh, yeah, this is tungsten. It shows up really good too See is that a little too small? You guys wanna matter here, right? Yeah


Good afternoon everyone. This is Melissa with the stockswish.com and welcome. Welcome to a market review. I really think this is a good day to be doing this here today. It is actually after hours the markets closed and it's still continuing down. Quite a bit and wow. Look at this. So we closed at 178.93 and we're now at 178.70. The market did what I thought. I called the market twice short today in the room and I don't think anybody believed me. Here's exactly where I called that we were done. I said that's it. We're over. Hold on. It was at 9.40. That was a great call. And I don't think anyone believed me. So you could have shorted the market here very quickly this morning. Initially I thought well first of all in the morning I thought that what we're going to do was we were going to set up to go lower, fake lower, but then hold. That's what I initially thought might happen today. I knew that we were going to we're not going to have some crazy green day. I thought we'd be neutral, tiny baby green, fake lower first and then hold or there was a potential that we'd have a huge red day. And I saw it setting up very early and then I said that's it. It's catastrophe and I called it really early. That's a great thing about figuring things out. You have everything set up that you you know ahead of time. You're all prepared. You did all the work everything. Everything's right there. But then in a live moment you got to be able to see what's happening so you can take advantage of the market of the moves or exit longs if you're them or take shorts if you want to make money or do whatever you want to do. Right here I called the market short. Right here I called the market short. This right here was a 3R trade right down there into the whole number 181. It's a quick trade. And right here when this set up I said that's it. That's it. We're over. We're done. Boom. We're going to run all day. That was a great call and it was very early. It was a 940. Now the market rallying here bounced off the whole number. It came almost all the way back to the high of the day and I was watching. I said hmm. But when the market did this, when the market came up here and didn't get over the high and set up here I called the second short. I said short. Short it because this was not right and it was too late. And if the market was going to get over the high it would have done it. It would have done it right here in this bar at 10 o'clock or 10 o'clock and then the market fell and then it was just over. And I said the target today for the market, the dream target was 179 possibly horrific target of 178, 17750 but I really thought 179 was very realistic and that's exactly what the market did. I mean I couldn't have been more exact about my target today for the market if I tried. We hit 179 and then into the close. The target that I had today for the market had hit at the close into the closing bell. That's amazing people. Look at us now. Look at this. This is crazy. I really have something down here with this gaps people. I mean these calls I'm making are just phenomenal. So we'll have to see here. I don't even want to say what we do next week until I see where we got. I mean everything I'm determining, everything I figure out, everything I figure out from the gap. And the reason that I said that I thought then that there was a potential that the market might have the kind of day which it actually had was because when I looked at the market this morning I said this is bearish because in order to hold in here today we should have opened neutral, come down and retest in it or open higher and then gapped up and followed through to the upside. When we were here I thought we'd fake lower but I thought we'd right away very quickly be able to figure it out and that's what happened within 10 minutes. I saw that we were going to fail and then we're going to have this crazy day and that's what happened. And this is shorting coming into the market now. So there's two things that happened here in the market today. One selling, two shorting. And when the selling started to come in and the shorting started to come in and the short started to push everybody down. The people that are long start panicking and taking profit and that's what happens. That's exactly what happens. Somebody in the room asked me today, I'm in shorts, I mean, I'm in longs, what do you think? And I said, well, it's up to you if you want to weather the storm or not because this is exactly what people start thinking. If they didn't exit their long positions at the first half an hour of the day by 10.30, 11 o'clock, 11.30, 12 o'clock, 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock in the afternoon people are deciding to get out as the market keeps falling and obviously you're better off if you want to take profit than something getting out early and seeing it, seeing it at 9.40 like I did and the market was going to fall and if you're in a long get out. No one should have been long anything today. I didn't look at all the other charts and things but no one should have been long anything today. There was no reason to go long today and actually I have to see what we do here on Monday. I mean, I'm not even going to say what we do on Monday because I don't know exactly what we're going to do on Monday because I don't know what's going to happen here but I think that we might actually get down. I got it. So people are starting to come in to short the market because I think this is topping. This double top, this triple top, this canket over the highs here, not being able to get over 185, the shorts are chopping at the bit to come in and they started to come in today. People are actually starting to come into this today and then the selling is coming down and pushing it down. I do not think this is the top of the market this year. I think the market is still going to continue the uptrend this year but that remains to be seen. I have to wait and see what happens here. Did this gap today? Oh, look at this. Where are we at right now? Hold on. I think we're going to gap down possibly Monday morning because we're just selling off here at the post market. Look at that. I will say this. We need to hold this. I mean, that's three and a half dollars away. We can have a bear stay Monday. I think we possibly now might have the chance to come in all the way down in here and I do think we're going to hold this. I'd be shocked, shocked if we break this. This is very strong here and this does need to hold. I'm just going to have to look at it day by day and live the moment here. I forget what I was saying before I saw that there. I think we're even going to break 178 here in these post market hours. 4.15 on Friday, Friday afternoon. This is selling off into the look. Look at this. So bearish market in the market today and I called that the market would just fall off the planet. I said it's ugly. It's going to get ugly people. I said it. I said it at 9.40 and there it was. And a lot of people in the room thought we're going to hold today because they say that gaps down to support typically hold but that's not true. That's just not true at all. If it was true that something always did something like that then all you do is always play that or something else. I mean, it's just not like that. There's so much more. I mean, I can't stress enough how important it is to learn how to read gaps. It's not as easy as buying on support. It's not as easy as shorting resistance. There's one bazillion levels of support and one catrillion levels of resistance. You can't just short this market here because you think this is resistance. This is absolutely resistance right now. This is set. This is resistance. I still think that the trend in the market bullish this year is going to continue and get up over this resistance. I don't think the short's going to win out but for the short term here they definitely are and we're going to have to see where we go from here. Is the market still in the uptrend after the scab today? The answer is yes. The market is still in the uptrend after the scab today. The scab today, the smooth today, the fall today is not broken the trend in the market. We are still in the uptrend. We had an intraday short term bearish move today in the last few days as well and this is a very bad bearish move. This is a huge big shorting day and you could have shorted anything today really almost except for Netflix. But I think I think we're going to hold where when all of that remains to be seen and I'm just going to have to live in a real lifetime and play it as it comes but I love to short and here's a great example why I love to short. When the selling comes into a stock, when the panic sets in or the market or anything, when that kind of momentum, when that takes over, it happens fast people. It happens wild. It happens whippy. It happens quickly and that's how you're able to profit very, very fast from short. That's why I love shorting. Why people prefer to go long rather than short was boggles my mind. It's bizarre a world to me. Shorts pay faster and bigger than longs quicker. They just do and today was proof positive of that and I won't be surprised if we gap and open up Monday morning under 1.78 so we'll just have to see. I mean if we open, no, I don't want to say it. No, no, no. This is bearish right now. I don't know where we go people but definitely the call I made for today followed through. I'm going to live in the real-life moment, look at the gaps every morning just like I do and follow it from there and read the market in a real-life time like I do when I trade. I do think that this area here has started to get shorted today. The shorts are pushing down and from the moment here intraday they won today and then some people took profits in the longs. Whether the buying is going to come into the market to lift it on through at some point, I don't know. It's not right now though and we'll have to see what we do on Monday and this is going to get down to an area here where it's really going to tell the sign because this is it people. That was a really good call I made on the spot today. I tell you I just to be able to see these things before they happen is what counts. It really doesn't matter if you see the markets falling, if it's 11.30 in the afternoon, if you want to short it's late, if you want to kill along it is late. You have got to learn how to re-chart some re-priced and read gaps. It's reading the gaps, it's reading the gap, it's reading the gap, I read the gap, it's reading the gap and how the gap acted on the open. It's reading the gap, it's a combination of read the gap and then I read the price and I read what it does and I read what it does into the open. That beginning part of the day, I own that part of the day to be able to see these things in that part of the day and beginning part of the day. Do you know something is going to work today? I saw what the market was going to do in that first period of the day, in that first 10 minutes I saw what the market was going to do. I didn't want to back up up near the high, it didn't break over it and my call was spot on. To see what the market is going to do in live time is skill. It's a skill that can be learned but you have to learn how to read gaps. That's how I figured all this stuff out and could see it in live time and see what it's doing. This market today I said was going to keep falling. It went to the target, the drain target into the close of business today is now and Monday I have no idea. I have no idea where we go on Monday. We are still in the uptrend though. For the longer term we're still in the uptrend of the market. The significance of this move today will be told in the tell-tale sign of how we act from here on forward. We're just going to trade in the live moment but really nice day for shorts today. Really nice day for shorts today. Really nice day for shorts today. If you saw that market call early like I did and look at this. Are you going to show the market here on lunch? Really nice. Even though I love to go short I'm not going to say that this is it. This is the end of the world. No, I'm not going to say that. I have to read what's happening here in live time. I called the market today. I said it was going to collapse. I said it was going to go all the way down nonstop. That was correct. I'm not going to say the market is going to change trends this year into the downside. I'm not going to say that. But I will say one thing. If the market wants to change trends, which is not, it didn't do today, but if the market wants to do that, I'm poised and ready with the stuff that I know and the information I know how to short to just go hog wild because I know how to short and I understand it and I know how to take the setups and I understand resistance and support better than anyone I know. If the market does want to collapse I'll be taking everything to dream targets ready if it comes. I've been ready for the last five and a half years since I've been trading. I don't think that happens this year. I think the market stays bullish, but the market will turn at some point. I don't know if it's 2014, maybe it's 2015, but when it happens I'm poised and ready with the information knowledge I have about shorting bearish gaps to really, really really go to town. So bring it on market. This is Melissa with thestockswish.com Have a great weekend everybody. Stay warm. It is so cold outside. So brutally cold here in New York City. Have a great weekend everybody. Email me at Melissa at thestockswish.com if you'd like more information about the next gap course. It's February 8th and 9th. Also I'm doing the wealth manifestation class Monday if you want to sign up for that, January 27th you get one month free in the Stockswish for that. And I'm doing the live event February 16th and that's going to be really special. It's the first time I'm ever doing a live event and I'm going to be working on that this weekend. More information on that to come. So have a great weekend everybody. Stay warm snuggle in and I'm off to watch the Australian Open. Have a great day.


The governor of Benway State, Hyacinth, has rolled out plans for the disbustment of the 5 billion IRA given by the federal government to cushion the effects of subsidy removal on citizens. Alaya, who was flagging off the distribution of food and non-food relief items to the distributor to victims of flood in about 21 local government areas of the state. Our correspondent Francis Thier reports that the governor also confirms that Benway State has already received 2 billion IRA out of the grant from the federal government and is now awaiting to receive the remaining funds. We have carefully considered and outlined two components for implementation in the state. The state government is going to train 2,000 youth in six areas of ICT. We're also going to give some grants to 5,000 women. Part of the palliative cushioning effect, the Benway State government is going to pay the exam fees for Waik and Neko. For the people living with special needs, there would be an increase in provision of equipment and food for rehabilitation centers. The director of NEMA, represented by Aziz Afankou, underscored the need for such intervention and called on the state government to ensure fair and equitable distribution of the materials to those affected by the 2022 flood. The executive secretary of Benway State Emergency Management Agency, Mr John Iropou, however, assured that the relief materials will be shared to the affected household. The federal government had approved five billion IRAs to each state of the federation to enable procurement of items for distribution to the people to mitigate the harsh effect of fuel subsidy removal. The agricultural inputs such as crop seedlings and equipment are given to take farmer back to the land, stimulate crop production and safeguard our national food security in the middle economic downturn. Furthermore, the intervention is to stimulate value chains activities at the grassroots. At the same time, the livelihood support items are meant to help artists to improve their business and grow the economy. After it is going to be distributed for about 19 local government in the state, so the items are here and assure the beneficiaries that everybody who was enumerated is going to have his or her items as a government.


Welcome in a lot. I'm Mark Schwab, the host of Think Tech Hawaii's Law Across the Sea program. Today we're going across the sea of recent tragic events here in Hawaii to talk with Bradley Tam, the Chief Disciplinary Council of the Hawaii Supreme Court's Office of Disciplinary Council. The Office of Disciplinary Council or ODC for short, oversees and responds to issues involving the ethical practice of law in the state of Hawaii. On August 14, 2023, the ODC published public service announcements warning the public about fraud and unlicensed attorneys in connection with the wildfires on Maui and the Big Island. I've asked Bradley to provide information on what the public should know about obtaining legal help and dealing with ethical issues that may arise during these tragic times. So Bradley, welcome Aloha. It's good to see you. My name is Mark. It's an honor to be here. Thank you for being my guest today and helping us out. Now let's start right at the beginning of all of this with the little talk about the public service announcements. What are the risks that the ODC warns the public about in its public service announcements? Well, I think we've got to start with the understanding that the state requires a license to practice law to make sure that only qualified people practice law. Most people know that lawyers have to go to law school, they have to pass bar exam. That's how the state tests to make sure that the individuals are qualified. And just because you're qualified doesn't mean that you're good. So that's why they have the ODC. We work for the Supreme Court under supervision of the disciplinary board of the Hawaii Supreme Court. And what we do is we enforce the rules of professional conduct to hold these qualified practitioners to account or any failings in their practice of law. The reason why we're concerned that we have non-Hawaii lawyers trying to practice law is that we don't know if they're qualified, they may be, but they're not licensed here. So they're not part of our system. And if they're not admitted in the state of Hawaii, how are we, the ODC, that will hold these lawyers to account for any failings that they have in the representation of the individual? Also, you have people in Hawaii that are hiring unlicensed attorneys. What happens if that attorney messes up your case and you want to sue them for malpractice? If the attorney is practicing law in Florida, well, most times if you sue somebody, you've got to sue them where they live. So are you prepared to go to Florida to file a malpractice lawsuit? That's going to be really expensive. If they're admitted in Hawaii, however, they have to be sued here. They submit to the jurisdiction of the civil courts here. So that is one of the reasons why it's important not to deal with somebody who is licensed in Hawaii. And I could go on for a long time. There's all kinds of problems of dealing with unlicensed attorneys. And what was the motivation? I mean, how did the wildfires come into play? What caused this? What caused the wildfires? The public service announcements. Well, once the fires wrecked the havoc that they did, I don't know, blood's in the water. I joked a while back and I said, Maui's and islands surrounded by water and the sharks aren't necessarily limited to the ocean. I turned out to be a little bit true. There's a lot of out-of-state lawyers that are flocking to line up trying to drum up business. Well, the practice of law is not a business, it's a profession and we have rules. We put out their public service announcement so that the people of this state will know that we're here to hold these non-Hawaii lawyers to account for what they're doing with our citizens, our residents, even our visitors to this island. Let's just quickly put up, if we could, the public service announcement. There's just the first page of it and where can it be found? It can be found on our website, dbhawaii.org. If you look at the front page when you get to the website, it's over on the right-hand side, right underneath, the latest update. You see Maui wildfire press release, you can put on that. It's in three sections, by the way. There's three parts to it. The first one is a little blurb you can put on a Facebook post or something on social media. Something that 30-somethings understand is kind of beyond me as an old man. The second part is a longer but still short blurb which was intended for use by the print news media to put in news articles. And the longest part, which takes up the majority of the press release, is a detailed explanation of points produced by journalists who want to do a deep dive into the issue. Okay, well, you talked a little bit about the value of having a lawyer licensed in Hawaii because then he or she would be made to answer if they made a mistake. What should the public know about obtaining legal help? And if they come up with an ethical issue concerning the wildfire fires that they incurred and suffered? If I could sell one point to everybody in your audience is you shouldn't be dealing with an attorney who's not licensed and admitted in the state of Hawaii. Some of these law firms from out of state probably have expertise which is phenomenally good and they know what they're doing. But if they're not licensed here, they're not legally allowed to practice here. They can affiliate with local Hawaii lawyers. So if you have an opportunity to speak with anyone who is offering legal services, the first question you ask them is, are you licensed in the state of Hawaii? And if they are, fine. If they're not, I find out who it is they're working with who's licensed in Hawaii and then deal with that person. That Hawaii lawyer can affiliate with this non-Hawaii lawyer and pass information on to you, but your dealings should be with that Hawaii lawyer. And you can check the CF of the Hawaii lawyer is authorized to practice what we call active status by going to the Hawaii State Bar Association website, which is www.hsba.org. HSBA is the Hawaii State Bar Association.  You type in Mark Schwab's name where you type in my name and you'll see that we're listed. You look at Mark, you look at your listing and it says you are actively licensed to practice law. That means he's good. He's good to go. Okay. If you look at me, it doesn't say I'm active. It says I'm government. You can't hire me. So that's what you're looking for. You're looking to see if the person's name pops up on the HSBA website and if it shows active. Anything else, inactive, disbarred, suspended, government, judge, things like that. They're not lawyers that you should be talking to. Or not even there. If they're not there, yeah. Yeah. If they're not there, that's called a red flag. Yeah. Check them out. Now, you mentioned advertising that some lawyers, and I've noticed this. I mean, I got Facebook and emails from mainland lawyers basically, I think, soliciting wildfire victims here in Hawaii or saying they can provide services. Now, is it, I mean, can lawyers from outside the state advertise? What are the rules in Hawaii? Well, first of all, we've got a big role. I can just momentarily digression into a little bit of history. Prior to 1978, it was against the law for attorneys to advertise at all. In fact, the only thing the law said was it was okay for an attorney to have a business card, to have his name on a letterhead, or on the building directory. But other than that, prohibitive, flat, nobody was allowed to advertise. That's why so many attorneys became politicians. They didn't expect to get elected, but they'd run for office and say, I can write good laws for you because I'm a good lawyer. I know how to do it. That way they got to advertise, you know. But in 1978, U.S. Supreme Court, in a case that came out of Arizona, ruled that freedom of speech applied to lawyers in a commercial context. And since then, we invented all these rules regarding advertising. Most of these rules were written in 1980 when the law first got changed. And so most of the rules we have are directed towards the kind of advertising you had in the 20th century, which was a long, long time ago. You had things called yellow pages, which some of my employees here don't even know what those are. You had newspaper ads where you would take out an ad. I read an ad for a while for myself when I was a bankruptcy attorney. And you had that kind of advertising. Well, that is legal for an attorney to do. An attorney can post an ad in a newspaper. Two requirements on a newspaper ad. One, it has to say advertising at the top. It has to say advertising at the bottom. And it has to have the name of the Hawaii lawyer who is responsible for the content. That kind of advertising is legal. Now, another thing that most people find surprising is you can't walk into the emergency room of a hospital and start handing out your business card. That's called direct in-person solicitation. And that is against the law in this state. And I think in almost every state it's against the law. Direct in-person solicitation is prohibited. Lawyers can write you a letter and mail it to you. But if the injury involves personal injury, which is physical manifestation of harm or wrongful death, they have to wait at least 30 days before they can send you that letter. And again, I think that letter has to contain the word advertisement on it, at least in the mailed communication. See, any word advertisement has to appear on the outside of the envelope. Those are the direct solicitation rules. Other rules allow, like I mentioned earlier, putting ads in newspaper, or posting them up on a website. Now we get to the 21st century. The law hasn't caught up with this. When does these things, the new confangled mechanisms, Facebook, LinkedIn, I don't know, ask it 30-something about them. When does that become a direct solicitation? I needed a pair of shoes a couple of weeks ago. And I went to Amazon to look up brown suede shoes. And I didn't find what I wanted and I forgot about it, watched some TV shows and went to bed. Next morning I get up to read the news and I get my iPad and I open it up to MSN where it's got all these articles on it. And every third article has got an advertisement. And they're all advertisements for brown suede shoes. How'd they get that? Are they spying on me? No, it's the targeted type of communications. And the law has not caught up with this yet. Does this kind of targeted communications, where there are mining big data or AI or whatever it is, does that take a general advertisement and turn it into an in-person solicitation? That's a real good question that hasn't been answered yet. Personally, I think it does. And if I find out about it, I may be opening an investigation on it because that's how laws made. They wait for the events to happen and they interpret the existing laws. And I've actually had that happen to me. I saw on Facebook an advertisement. It did have advertisement written at the top and bottom from a mainland law firm and saying how they handle wildfire cases. And I clicked on it to read it. And then later I got an email from that law firm. And that email was more like a newsletter, if you will. But it was the same type of thing, basically telling what they're doing and how good they are. I don't think it directly solicited me or anyone, but it was, I mean, come on. That's what it was. Oh, okay. So I hear what you're saying is, you know, if you're a local Hawaii person, deal with local Hawaii lawyers, look with lawyers that are licensed. Now, let's say I am a honest out-of-state lawyer that wants to help. What should the out-of-state attorney do if she really wants to represent, here she really wants to represent clients in Hawaii? What's the ethical way for them to proceed? That is being done by a number of high-powered mainland law firms. And a good number of calls that I've received have been from attorneys looking to find out what the process is. And the answer to that question is they need to affiliate with a Hawaii law firm or have a Hawaii licensed attorney on staff with the firm. Then the negotiations that contact with residents and property owners in Hawaii have to be made or need to be made through that Hawaii licensed attorney. Now, there is a provision that once a court case has been filed, the non-Hawaii lawyers can file applications with the local court to get admitted for purposes of that case only. We call this pro-hack v. che administration, admission. Pro-hack v. che is Latin for meaning justice once. So the lawyer, the non-Hawaii lawyer would file an application for admission pro-hack v. che. They have to have a local attorney sponsor them. And then that foreign lawyer, that non-Hawaii lawyer, becomes admitted in the state of Hawaii. They become admitted for all purposes and that non-Hawaii lawyer can then talk to people in Hawaii and can negotiate these things and deal in the case. But that only happens once a lawsuit is commenced. There is another form of pro-hack v. che admission which has not been implemented yet in Hawaii. It is pending before the Supreme Court. I don't know if they're going to implement it as an emergency basis out of this or not. But that is too early to talk about yet, but it's temporary admission for other purposes. And it's another pro-hack v. che thing. We are moving to catch up with what went on in the mainland. There's a thing that they refer to in a lot of states called the Katrina rule that arose out of the 2005 hurricane or Katrina in Louisiana, which allowed for temporary admission under the ABA model rules. And to my knowledge, only Texas and Hawaii don't have this in place yet, but we're working on it. OK. So the ODC is concerned about the public and how they are represented and to make sure that they're covered and that they're not going to be taken advantage of and that they have proper legal help. Now, let me ask you, we've all been devastated by what's been happening on the big island and on Maui, especially right now. How have lawyers been affected? How have you found lawyers to be affected and what does the ODC do to help them? That's a tough question. It's heartbreaking. Some of the lawyers that have been wiped out that were in Lahaina were the first things they did when I found out about this, about the fires and taking out Lahaina. I think the last time I was there was in 2008. What a beautiful neighborhood that was. And I've taken depositions in a couple of those law firms. That was the first thing that popped in my head. Oh, my God, what about so-and-so? I had my IT department do a run on any lawyer who had a Lahaina address and we got their email addresses and I sent out emails to everybody there and to the Maui County Bar Association and the West Hawaii Bar as well because they had some problems over there. And I said, any of these lawyers that are affected and have been injured or damaged in this thing, give us a call, let's talk. And I received numerous calls from people who I suffered tragically.  One is they can call my office and we'll do what we can but mostly we'd like to put you in touch with the Attorneys and Judges Assistance Program, otherwise known as NAAAP. And I get you hooked up with Mr. Liam Deely, who's their executive director. They are well suited for helping people deal with the trauma that has gone on. My office can help you with at least getting out in front of problems where we need to contact your clients and tell them of your inability to be able to help them and to try and get things sorted out. We don't practice law. We can't get involved in taking over the stuff, but we can help run interference for you. And it's best to get out ahead of these things and don't just let them fester until they explode on you. So I guess I've known some stores in Lahaina that lost everything and I guess is the same thing happened with attorneys if they lost all their files? I mean is that what have you heard in that regard? I had a heartbreaking story from this one attorney in Lahaina who talked to me and she told me that when she found out the fire was coming and all she had time to do was grab her laptop and her client trust account folder and run for the hills or run out the door and get to safety. And she lost her house. She lost her practice. She lost everything. Fortunately a lot of her stuff is on her computer and it was on the cloud. God bless. Ten years ago, Mark, everything we had was on paper, right? That would have been gone. She had the presence of mind to grab her client's stuff and get that to safety. And she left all of her personal stuff behind. Jesus, somebody ought to give her the Lahaina gold medal for this. Talking about going above and beyond the call. I think I would have been looking for pictures of my kids when they were, you know, so, yeah. But other lawyers weren't so fortunate. Some of them in our age group, you know, paper is gone and what are they going to do? Yeah, so I kind of, I'm taking away a couple things by what you're talking about with the AI and that is that it can hurt and it can help. And so there's two different avenues to it. There's some good and there's some bad, perhaps, in the same thing. In other words, this one lawyer in Lahaina was able to save some important client information and she called you for help at the ODC. Is that right? Yeah, just a touch base and let me know her situation and we keep notes because you've always got what we call my dog ate my homework excuse, you know, from high school days. Well, a lot of times you investigate lawyers and you write them a letter and they go, all that stuff was lost in the flood. Well, gee whiz, did you notify us when you had the flood? We keep records. So these people call, they tell us what tragedy they've gone through and we keep a contemporary record of it. So then if it later comes up, yeah, we can verify they were telling the truth. They let us know when it happened. Yeah. And can the ODC help with client relations or just to help them get through it? Well, we can't represent anybody, but if a client is angry and they think that the attorney is lying to them and the attorney authorizes us to make disclosures because everything that goes on here is confidential, but that confidentiality can be waived by the attorney who's affected. So if the attorney authorizes talk to him, I'll talk candidly with the client and let him know that yeah, what that guy's telling you is that's what we observed, you know, and it's not just you as other people that have been harmed. ODC has looked upon as the rat squad, you know, we're the ones that go out and hammer lawyers and all lawyers quite can shake when they see one of two letters show up in the mail, either from the ODC or the IRS. What's going to make your heart beat? But for the most part, we do a lot of peacekeeping here and we try and get people together to talk things out because I'd much rather see a resolution to the problem where people walk away feeling better about themselves and I'd rather, you know, harrowing anybody. That's not what I do in old age. That was back from when I was younger. So I hear you telling me that the ODC wants to help both the public and attorneys through this wildfire problems that have happened. Now let me ask you, I mean, what have you learned about life and the practice of law as a result of the wildfires on Maui and the Big Arm? Well, it's never a dull moment. As my old mentor used to say, why do you think they call it the practice of law? By the time you get done practicing, it's time to retire. Yeah, but this has been probably the worst tragedy that I have witnessed in all the decades that I've been practicing law and it's something that I don't think anybody was prepared for. I'll admit straight up, I got an email from the executive director of HSBA when it first happened and she says, Bradley, would you please share with me your emergency response plan? And I went, by what? And pointed, I feel like a dum-dum and immediately I went out to the National Organization of Bar Council reaching out to Louisiana and Katrina people and the people in Georgia and everything else and says, you guys got an emergency response plan you can share? Yeah, I was like, and I think a lot of people were caught flat footed. How many of us are ready for these kind of things? You know, we're kind of almost ready for tsunamis and hurricanes, but to us, all this stuff can happen and you never know what mother nature is going to throw at you again. Just try and get along with people, try and give people a little bit of slack and let's all try and remember we're human beings and we've got to treat each other right. And so we've got to help each other out and it appears that we are. We just got a little bit left in our program to close out. Is there anything you'd like to add to or I'd like to say to the wildfire victims concerning law and practice of law?  Okay, the one thing I'd like to leave you with and it goes to not only the victims of the wildfire but for those who want to have something to do you're going to see a lot of ads out there for donations, soliciting for contributions to wildfire victims. Be careful with the stuff. There's a lot of fraud going on out there. I've seen one that I looked a little suspicious and I managed to trace it down to a lawyer on the East Coast who's soliciting contributions to an agency which is not registered through our AG's office and I'm definitely going to try and find out where the money is going. But if you want to donate, donate to legitimate organizations that you know that are well grounded. It comes to mind the American Red Cross, the United Way, Salvation Army. A lot of these things that are legitimate, registered, responsible, beneficial organizations. If you hadn't heard of them, you know, be suspicious. Thank you. All right, well, yes. Bradley, Tim, thank you very much for sharing your knowledge and your comments and your help with all of us. So Aloha, take care. Bye-bye.


Welcome to the ITU studio in Geneva, on the occasion of GSR 2018, the Global Symposium for Regulators. I'm very pleased to be joined in the studio today with Mr. Tarik Hamza Zain El Abdain, who is the CEO of Pseudotel. Mr. El Abdain, thank you very much, Steve, for joining us in the studio today. Thank you for having me here.  We've been talking about here new regulatory frontiers. It's been very much the byline for this symposium. What regulatory challenges are you facing in view of the new ICT ecosystem now dominated by emerging technologies such as AI, Internet of Things, et cetera? Thank you very much for having me here today. It was one of very impressive, actually, panel I did today. Our challenges in Sudan or in Africa are the same as the challenges in the globe. Very the challenge of making the spectrum available for the coming 5G, which is a complete transformation of the technology, because 5G is not just a broad map of new technology, but it's a new paradigm and a new shift of technology, which is going to affect the human life. One of the issue of the, not only the regulatory, also the availability or the availability of the fund. Actually, the lack of fund will stop and prevent the move to 5G and vice versa. And also, one of the issues is to make the skill, the human being skill to be available to deal with the new arena of the digital economy, the new ecosystem of tomorrow. This is one of the few challenges that you are meeting with the regulatory today. And have you got a schedule in place? Have you got a time, a date, some kind of goal in mind in terms of rolling out 5G? Yeah, actually, even we are under discussion now with the regulatory in Sudan, and also we are operating in West Africa and many other countries. Actually we started the pilot project of 5G now in Sudan, and we're going to start this in Senegal and Mauritania very soon. I think by 2020, first quarter of 2020, 5G will be available for our customer and consumer across Africa and Middle East. How do you think it will change people's lives? Absolutely, because 5G with IoT, with AI, with all this will impact the social life of people. For example, if I talk about healthcare, the 5G will connect the patient and the care providers and the care takers, they will put them together and will connect them with always on secure devices, which allow the doctor to talk to the patient, which is very important especially for Africa, and I'm sure it's going to impact the people life very positive. Also, on money transfer now with the limited available of cash in all over the globe, we'll try to use the mobile and 5G to transfer the money around and be in line with the FinTech technology. And how important is this GSR to your organization who is taking the time to be here? I want to find out what concrete outcomes do you hope to be taking away from it? It's good. Really, I'm very impressed about this because I met a lot of folks from financial firms and also some regulatory firms and also the policymaker and ITU. So it's very important for us to be around. So as I said, we are not only operating in Sudan, we are operating in all Africa and very soon we are going to Middle East. I think this kind of dialogue and discussion is very important for us to get in connection with the ITU and the folks around the globe. One of the main problems for the new digital arena or new digital transformation is still the financial firm, then they try to find a way how to finance the new project, how to finance the new 5G network or the IoT or whatever and they are still using the old paradigm of financing which is not going to be in line. We have a lot of discussion today with folks from ING and from IFC in U.S. that they have to change their mindset, their mentality because today the value chain has been changed. Before the value chain, who is making money, the operator, the supplier and that's it, that's most of it. Now part of the value chain is the customer himself. Now the customer is not only using the mobile just for the sake of usage but now from that mobile, from the application, he can be an investor, he can be a businessman or businesswoman. Instead of just taking that mobile and use it to talk or to chat on the data, you can build a business around it. So the banks sector, they need to find a way to go to that person and try to finance him to create a new job. I think that will add about 22 million new jobs by 2020. We expected $12.3 trillion to be added to the economy of the world by 2025. All this comes just from how this new paradigm of 5G, AI and IoT. Well, that's brilliant. Well, thank you very much for being with us in the studio today and we look forward to catching up with you again sometime in the near future. Ms. Al Abdain, thank you very much indeed. Thank you, sir. Have a good one. Thank you. And do check out our other videos on the ITU YouTube channel and ITU SoundCloud for podcasts as well. Thank you.


Polish investigators say Ukrainian air defense missile fell in Sheva Doof. Polish law enforcement officers believe that two farmers were killed by a Ukrainian air defense missile in the border village of Sheva Doof in November 2022. Polish media outlet Rezepos Polita reported this. Despite the allegedly insufficient cooperation from the Ukrainian side, the Polish investigators have come to the conclusion as to what caused the tragic incident in the border of Sheva Doof where two people were killed by missile fragments. The conclusion is allegedly final and excludes the possibility that the missile that fell in Sheva Doof on the 15th of November 2022 and killed two farmers could have come from the territory of Russia. Lukas Lapszynski, spokesman of the Polish National Prosecutor's Office, in a comment to Rezepos Polita confirmed that they had indeed received the report but said he could not share the content with the public due to its confidential nature. Lapszynski said all possible investigative measures have been taken in Poland at the current stage of the investigation. We have sent a request for legal support from Ukraine and are waiting for a response, the spokesman said. Journalists said the conclusion is based on information from a large number of sources including the classified data from Polish national services. Experts believe that it was a 5B-55 missile from the S-300 system produced in Russia. The prosecutor's office allegedly knows the exact location on Ukrainian territory where it was launched to down a target during a large-scale Russian missile attack on Ukrainian cities on the 15th of November 2022. An air defense system launched two missiles at one time to reach the target where one of them hit the target the other continued to fly. In such a situation, a missile's self-destruction mechanisms should activate after reaching a certain height but this did not happen and we do not know why. A source that knows the details of the investigation told journalists.


Okay, thank you so much everyone for joining and I'm super excited to have you all here today. My name is Paul Chikama and I'm from the Lawson Damages Coalition. And I am kind of whole eating session with me is Adeline from the Lawson Damages Coalition, if you can say hi. Right. Thank you so much. I'm so sorry. I'm sorry for the delay. Most of the most of the I'm calling it of the session, they are the kind of finding it difficult to join. So that's why we were kind of waiting to see if they can join. But I guess we have to move forward with the presentations that we have. Yeah. So I'm basically the, the, yes, and also Mamadou from the Lawson Damages Coalition, who is the advocacy co-coordinator, if you can say hi. Yes, okay, cool. All right. So basically the conversation, of course, the CBA 16 is around LLA. But the conversation in this particular session would actually project into Lawson Damage. So before we kind of delve into the conversation proper, I would I would kind of do a brief presentation on Lawson Damage from the Coalition's perspective. Yes. So thank you so much. Yeah. So first, welcome everyone who's in this call today. And I hope you would enjoy this brief presentation on Lawson Damage itself. So first of all, the whole conversation projects form climate change itself. Of course, we know that the average temperature before industrial levels has been at increase in temperature and currently at 1.1 degrees Celsius, but it's also increasing to 1.2. And of course, these climate change events lead to these consequences or impacts that we frame with the phrase called Lawson Damage. So basically Lawson Damage itself refers to the consequences of the climate change events that's not avoided transmission and adaptation. It's really important for us to frame this. Of course, we know that like there is still no conspiritual or totally a good definition of the Timeless pandemic within the UNFGC, but generally we have like an understanding of what the time really means. And in practice, this means that when climate change events like like flooding occurs in communities where there's little capacity to respond, these losses and damages actually occur. So probably bridges or broken roads that damage, lives are lost. So those impacts from that climate change event, that's what we frame with the Timeless Damage. So I think that we can clearly see that there's losses and there's also damages. So when the negative impacts of this climate change can either be replaceable or irreplaceable. So when it's irreplaceable, we call it losses. For example, if someone dies as a result of a flooding in a particular community, you can replace that life, right? But if a bridge is broken, then that can be replaced. So that's a damage. So there's like, there's a need to really clarify what the loss and also what damage is. But of course, losses and damages can be economic and non-economic. So in general terms, within the SCOM document around loss and damage training, it's clearly outlined that there's a need to really clarify loss and damage training. It's clearly outlined that when there's losses and damages have to do with resources, goods and services that are traded. I mean, the market, for example, that's what we refer to as economic losses and damages. But all of the losses and damages that do not fit into this categorization are referred to as non-economic losses and damages. So these losses and damages actually apply to the climate change events, right? But these events can either be slow onset events or extreme events. So these extreme events are those that happen over a long period of time. And over a short period of time, while the slow onset events occur over a long period of time, for example, sea level rise, ocean acidification, those occur over a very long period of time. But the cyclones usually have short time frames.  But for the slow onset event, it's usually over a long period of time. So here is like an example of what loss and damage looks like on the ground. As you can see, these are like people in the native community that have been affected by this climate change event. On one end, we can see that there was like this flood, there was an ongoing flood, and that resulted to damages of this property. Of course, there could be losses here as well, because people might also have lost their life as a result of the flood. And there are numerous other examples. Of course, the most outstanding, the most recent happening. So the flooding in Pakistan and the rest of that, these are like examples of climate change events that have resulted to really en masse losses and damages. So because it's really important, there is like a need for us to really look at the justice perspective and our solution and aspects of loss and damage. And basically, when we say loss and damages, it usually responses to events that has happened. So of course, the poor community that actually had lost, let's say, the crops that should have served as food, then we leave materials can actually go into these communities to help them recover from that particular event in their community. So apparently, we as youths and also the residents in the Global South, we perceive this as very the biggest climate injustice issue we've actually currently experiencing. And that's because little contribution being the most, we're actually still being the most impact of these happenings. And there is like this deliberate rejection or opposition whenever the discussions around loss and damages raise. So yeah, in contextualizing this, loss and damages, especially the economic dimension of it can actually be reflected in numerical figures. And we can see that as 2020 estimated losses and damages goes actually between $100 and $100 billion. And by 2050, this would actually move to between $1 to $3 billion. However, we still shouldn't be, we still recognize the fact that there is very little action around loss and damage in terms of its finance. But of course, the argument is it's not really substantial enough to respond to the need on the ground. So there is support from the Scottish government and also philanthropies have committed to it as well. Of course, there are questions around should the finance for loss and damage be humanitarian or it should actually, it actually has it just, of course, like if it's, if we're actually dependent on donors or people who give out of goodwill, then in a way there's like a denial that there's a just ground for the demand for loss and damage finance. Of course, those are like conversations that we have to really reflect on the support. Like the kind of support is really important. That's why for example, some of the suggestions around loss and damage finance structural mechanism from organizations like Oxfarm and IID would actually talk around the lines of making sure that the finance for loss and damage is actually additional. It is immediate. Like we were able to assess these funds once it's, once there's an incident of loss and damage. So these are like questions we see have around the current support and of course we're still aware that the Denmark has actually committed around 13 million dollars as well to support developing countries along the lines of loss and damage. So from the developing countries perspective, especially this is really clarified within the discussions of the UNFGPC and I think at part 26 there was like this clear demand from China and recent seven countries that there should be a loss and damage finance facility but this was substituted for the classical dialogue which should actually run for a period of three years and should be a platform for relevant stakeholders to actually discourse on the financing required to support actions that address and loss and damage in the ground. But the opposition at part 26 showed a bit of resistance and in a way there's like a push back for the finance facility and that the resolution was like the climate dialogue and of course looking at the demand from the developing countries to the developing countries you can see that from the developed countries perspective it has though the discussions around loss and damage financing adds additional burden to the actions around the climate to the actions they are taking responding to climate change but from the developing countries perspective it's a just demand reflecting on history CO2 emissions and that kind of justifies the demand as well. So we can actually say that the two countries two groups of countries actually have different standards on this and on one end it's a just demand but on the other end it's an additional burden or you know it's an additional burden to the course of actions they're already taking along the lines of climate action. So basically moving on to COP 27 and beyond of course like one of the key metrics we were looking at before the end of 2007 is the operationalization of the Centrago network on loss and damage course and even though we are demanding for the finances we still need this technical support to facilitate the development of the frameworks that should kind of help administer structured actions on loss and damage in local communities. So generally the Centrago network should be that should be the source of technical support especially to developing countries to address loss and damage in the local communities and so at COP 27 that's one key metrics we actually looking at and having highlighted earlier responses to loss and damage occurrence in local communities require finance because apparently most of these vulnerable communities would not have the capacity to respond to the impact of climate change on the livelihoods or the ways of life or their access to heritage and that's where the need for finance come in so they're able to respond effectively and gain back their lives and also go back to how they were before the event actually happened. So these are like two metrics that I'm moving forward of course I already said although the Glasgow dialogue was actually raised up at COP 26 it's still not clear on what the government structure would look like and of course it's still like subject to debate in terms of putting together the support how would it really work in practice with structure and mechanism that facilitates the flow of the financial support from developing countries to developing countries and so that's why moving to COP 27 we would really expect to have advances around loss and damage finance and also the centre going to talk on loss and damage so basically we as you see first of all loss and damage itself as a word it's still not properly understood by a lot of people but we still think action should be taken and with the little knowledge and understanding we have around the context looking at the severity of the impact it's having on our local communities we still think we should take the little actions cause loss and damage is happening now in lives now it's kind of affecting livelihoods and also weeks to the future of youths now here from the perspective of loss and damage coalition we would we kind of put forward a summarized version of what like the youth cause like it's a coalition of youth from all over the world and the demand we put of course is like a reflection of the world right so decision making process is a very important priority cause first of all we are the ones on the ground we are the ones who would be here for a very long time would be here right after most of this leaders have gone and would be bearing more consequences so our perspective is actually needed and we should be included in the whole decision making process so it's incorporated into the future and we should be involved in the future of youth and we should be involved in the future of youth as much as possible and of course the coalition is so much open to meeting relevant stakeholders for example we are able to meet with the the president to really put a curse on the perspective of youths so many of them loss and damage and the next thing would be to do a quick review like right now if you have questions you can literally ask some questions while we do a little bit of reform activity so we do not have this maximita which would gauge our understanding derived based on the presentation and but of course feel free to use the chat post if you have a question or if you do have a question while I kind of put up the maximita so we kind of evaluate our understanding based on the presentation so thank you so much for listening okay so I guess I'm so much of a good presenter that I have no questions and I communicated effectively thank you so much I feel proud of myself alright so I have a question for you yes hello Paul yes yes I'm here I can hear you Paul thank you very much that was very good primer for us to understand what is loss and damage my question is on climate change and disasters the developing countries do year mark funds enormous funds let me take a classical example of ESEM during pandemic they announced 80 billion dollars in one of the webinar I was present and later COP26 you must be knowing again hundreds of billions of dollars but there is one suspicion that the developing countries announced these financial implications to benefit their infrastructure what is your comment on this okay so maybe I will start with the question on loss and damage so from the the little understanding on insurance linked to loss and damage traditionally that is one of the response mechanism to loss and damage that is a bit adopted or accepted within the unit you can see so how insurance work is there is like a premium fee and of course when this losses and damage is occurred then the premium was paid to then they kind of take responsibility for the losses and damages but of course from that very simple explanation this doesn't really fit into the context of the vulnerable communities cause these communities themselves cannot afford to pay the premium which they can be able to get the financial like the response when this loss and damage is occurred so in my head I think the insurance first of all is like a mechanism that a bit accepted especially within the discussions on loss and damage but a total analysis of its impact or how it fits into the discussions cause like we are raising loss and damage finance cause the people most affected are the vulnerable communities with less capacity so how would you explain that solution fitting into those people that originally do not have capacities to pay those premiums or those lives and sums of money to kind of have the support when they experience loss and damage so in summary yes it's a system we know and also within the NFGPC it's something that in a way it's one of the mechanism that we know there but it just doesn't address the issue that we are raising as you it's around the discussions on loss and damage and of course we have a supplementary query on that see in 1992 unsaid a summit there was a proposal to bring in a concept polluter pace polluter pace see now now COP26 the scientific evidence show that there is a correlation between the polluter and the damage and people are losing their habitat for no part of their they are losing their livelihood their life is in danger is it too early at this stage that we seek that polluter pace principle is revoked again actually within the UNFGPC there are principles that guide conversations and one of them is the pollutary principle of course we have things like the precautionary principle as well so it's actually there on paper we know this is actually what's needed for us to move forward the issue is then implementation so just to tie this up quickly with what you said originally there are commitments right so for example there is like a 100 billion dollar goal after 2020 annually from developing countries but the truth of the matter is there is no to the best of my knowledge there is no single year where that target was met so it is like in a way it's something that we experience or it's happening right before us where commitments are made and they are not almost equal they're not really they're not really those who make this commitment do not really implement what we have so basically it's an issue of complaints basically it's an issue of complaints basically it's an issue of complaints yeah in a way so I think around these discussions that's what you see from the switch from the Kyoto protocol where they were like binding limits we are now kind of within the Paris argument it's now like this voluntary kind of commitment from countries so what can you do as a country of course these are like discussions around the article says making it more voluntary rather than tending binding limits so we have more kind of words translating to actions so that's like what it looks like within the frame of the UNFGC and thank you so much for your questions because you found that nobody's putting questions so I talked about filling the gap thank you so much this was also quite good thank you very much before we move to the next session I'm handing over to Adeline but before we do that I just put a link to a metameter it's just like to help us kind of rewind there was like a very boring I just gave a very boring and lengthy presentation so let's just rewind a little bit and have a little bit of fun before we transit to the storytelling session so just click on the link the metameter link and kind of respond to the questions I always want to kind of respond because that's what's going to make the session fun because I'll be presenting the responses to the question and you'll be seeing what everyone is saying yes okay so let me don't keep the results to myself while you're putting it in let me give you some visuals as well I'm not presenting it correctly but yeah so yeah this is what it looks like okay there is Senegal there is India there is UK there is Rwanda China dead oh we are actually 17 or 19 on the call and we have just five responses can we keep it coming we have five minutes for this activity okay I'm not sure that that activity was as fun as it was meant to be but thanks everyone who kind of tried to participate yes so I would pass the mic to Adeline who will take us through the storytelling section thank you so much for listening thank you Paul for the good presentation hello everyone as Paul said I'm going to take you guys through our storytelling part of LDYC so basically LDYC we collect stories around climate change because we believe stories touches the heart and inside people take action more than researches or paper can do so first I'm going to show you some videos and we'll have the storyteller sharing his personal story and the first video I think goes well with Jagannet and Paul's discussion regarding who should be for loss and damage this is loss and damage it's what happens when climate change intensified disasters like hurricanes wildfires and floods and slow moving catastrophes like droughts and sea level rise lead to a loss of life culture, biodiversity territory and livelihoods as well as damage to homes, hospitals schools and roads which often forces people to flee their homes loss and damage as of 2022 is taking place in every single country in the world including rich countries but the impacts are mostly on poor people in the poor countries in Asia, Africa and Latin America if your island is going underwater you have to move if your farmland is turning into desert you have to leave if forest fires are destroying your home what choice do you have? in 2020 causing four rivers to bust their banks in the western part of Uganda causing massive destruction and leaving over 100,000 people displaced in the global negotiations on climate change, in the Paris agreement in 2015 Article 8 was agreed to tackle loss and damage but since then not a single penny has been made available for the victims of loss and damage from climate change there is no problem because areas prone to loss and damage are no longer insurable insurance is something that works on probability when you know that you are definitely going to be impacted by climate change insurance doesn't work therefore money for people to put their lives back together needs to come from somewhere else those who are at the front lines are the least responsible for the climate crisis I do believe in the polluter pays principle fossil fuel companies and the biggest polluting countries have the responsibility to provide compensation for loss and damage the major fossil fuel companies around the world have known for decades that they were producing a polluting product and they have suppressed that information and they prevented action as a result they've made billions of dollars of profit therefore they are completely liable to be challenged now to pay up for the loss and damage that is clearly caused amongst poor people in poor countries in particular although there is clearly a pressing need to support communities impacted by loss and damage finance has been blocked, denied and deemed too expensive by those who have polluted the global north hasn't done anything about loss and damage because it has refused to accept responsibility for the climate crisis they don't want to pay the bill with similar compensation funds already in existence it is high time to set one up for loss and damage we do have an example of compensation for pollution the major oil companies all have a fund that they put money into where if there is an oil spill those who have been affected can claim compensation without having to prove which company caused the damage and that's what we need for loss and damage from climate change the present is already catastrophic the present is already scary and if compensation is not given the future is going to be much worse COP26 failed to deliver finance for loss and damage we need to build momentum from Glasgow to COP27 to secure finance for loss and damage once and for all from the perspective of vulnerable communities and vulnerable countries COP26 failed to deliver finance for loss and damage for the people at the front lines now we expect COP27 to deliver it COP27 will only be successful if a compensation fund is put in place for communities that are facing the impacts of the climate crisis right now we have been waiting and waiting for the last 30 years and we cannot wait any longer if we do not address loss and damage then there is no climate justice it's not just what loss and damage is but what it means it speaks of the existential threat that the heating of our fragile band of atmosphere represents it's the signpost of what's to come the alarm bell that tells us we are running out of road for ignoring it as if it isn't there we are running out of road for doing nothing proportionate to the scale of the problem we are running out of road taking care of those at the sharp end of this climate change that is happening now not tomorrow but now is urgent and long overdue thank you Paul as you have seen this is a great video on loss and damage finance it's a video that have been produced by Robin Wood task through a dynamic polluters bay campaign so the next video is a video produced by IED it's an animation that shows how climate related loss and damage is affecting people in Nepal as you know the last few days Nepal have been affected by some flight so please take a look at it and I'm going to share the link to the first video in the chat thank you I feel so proud to be from Nepal where people live in harmony with nature but the climate crisis is hitting my beautiful homeland pushing us beyond our ability to cope the Himalayan glaciers are melting and feeding the lakes that burst and sweep away entire villages downstream communities can lose their lives and property in an instant our system threat is terrifying our efforts to build strong walls to protect forest cover and villages can't hold back climate change as in all the countries most Nepali people depend on agriculture for their livelihood which makes us extremely vulnerable to climate change though we have done the list to cause it my family used to farm but no matter how hard we tried we produced so little it's getting warmer and new diseases are affecting crops like many others we had to move to find new opportunities now I live in town but here too more intense monsoon rain causes destructive floods reduced harvest puts pressure on men's role in our matriarchal society drought has forced women to travel longer distance for fire root and water making them vulnerable to sexual exploitation many girls drop out of their school or are married off to cope with food scarcity I'm afraid and sad that this changes the risk of society's stability world leaders must recognize the loss and damage hitting the list developed countries increased action by providing finance and technical support the VCR cycle of loss and damage we face due to climate change must end now Thanks again for the presentation of the video I really think this is a video is a great representation of economical and non-economical loss and damage and now I would like to welcome our storyteller as he's a share his personal story with loss and damage as is a book Bakar is a climate activist from Nigeria as is are you able to speak welcome now yes I am able to speak right now good afternoon good morning and good evening whatever you are are you able to hear me clearly can you hear me clearly sure all right great okay so my name is Aziz from Nigeria just wanted to introduce myself again I'm a global shipper I used to be a global citizen fellow and I volunteer with the loss and damage coalition I also have initiated lots of climate adaptation project as a global shipper I've done a lot of engagements on the ground I'm really passionate about climate change and that's because it has personally affected me and that's why I'm so connected and I kind of recognize the urgency to act now so I'm going to be sharing my story now on the loss and damage okay so it does give me a moment sorry all right okay so yeah six years ago I was in a car with my brother trying to look through the car window but it was so difficult to see what was going on outside due to the heavy rainfall the rain was falling so heavily that for a moment I thought it was a huge exterior of the car I noticed that it wasn't just rain water but it mixed a small size solid ice that very evening we're stuck in traffic on the popular bridge in Lagos when the winds got strong the rain was torrential and I couldn't help but feel like the water below was going to rise and flood the bridge and put people into them into the depths of the Atlantic ocean it was horrifying the sound of fear and panic spread like wildfire rushing through us as we all are withered our feet stranded somewhere in between safety and danger rain fell continuously for three hours three very long hours Paula and I were petrified but imagining that the strength of the water below could actually collapse the bridge eventually the rain stopped falling and class started moving again gradually and withering from the state of ill-fitted onies we got home thanks to that incident wasn't worse than it was and I thought what if we all had been swept away into the ocean and started researching what could have caused it I discovered it was one of the climate change impacts not a lot of people have been lucky enough to survive such experience many people in my community vulnerable people who in some cases can barely put food on their table people who have contributed the least to causing the climate crisis these are the people that are the most affected these are the people whose properties are damaged those livelihoods are lost cost not just by flooding but also droughts and desertification yet governments of developed countries who have historically polluted the environment to build their cities by ignoring the scale of the problem they have done very little to help developing countries and least developed countries that suffer the most from climate induced loss and damage this is unfair this is climate injustice due to this I started advocating for adequate finance for climate induced loss and damage now I joined with millions of young people who are calling on world leaders of developed countries to support developing countries to adapt and build residents against the climate crisis so thank you for listening to my story yeah, hope to see you thank you Aziz for sharing your story now I'll give back to Paul right, thank you so much um yes, so the the next thing we're supposed to do is to, I'm actually going to break out rooms um, but we we are actually on time like we wouldn't be able to complete the activity if we're going into break out rooms um so probably I would open the floor at this point one or two questions before we kind of end this section um, but I can see a hand of um Jagannatha the floor is yours call me JV, very short Paul and all um, eco-friends I have one or two um, points to raise here but there is a popular corporate joke you know agree in the conference disagree in the toilet it's a very popular joke in Paris it was agreed but not even a single penny came out, that's what Professor Huck said, no I have one small simple solution to make we are not touching upon an issue in the global economy, that is the developing world wants to keep the inequality as it is to give here and there some compensation, that is not going to help we are not able to see it's like this there is WHO or UN, what is the role simply a country can pass a veto and the human conscience is defeated I think we have to make the civic societies and the human conscience to wake up see if Paris convention in the top 27 if nothing moves for loss and damage what does it indicate it simply indicates that the system is failing we are all winning but the system is failing so I want to submit that let a resolution be made from this session that we need to search solutions with civic bodies and people who stand by the human conscience because I was very much convinced that it is not loss and damage it is something else it leads to pollution and some sort of you know complaints to already the damage is made so thank you very much thank you very much thank you very much I am going to pronounce this wrong again yes amazing contribution and then I really do appreciate your your proactivity I think we have one question in the chat we will take that question and then iron cast as a climate justice issue there has been cause for loss and damage as part of operation to developing countries for my colonies do you think this is a useful framing I think action can be open to to everyone normally I think this is a last activity for last activity for the day or for this session someone was asking as a climate justice issue there has been cause for loss and damage to be a part of operations to developing countries so Jamie Williams you can speak thank you very much in answer to the question it isn't a useful framing because it's like a red rag to the developed countries that's the absolute that they won't stand for so what the climate action network has done in its extremely effective advocacy for loss and damage in the UNFCCC has been to highlight the aspect of addressing loss and damage so if colleagues replace reparation with address then it means that they'll have a channel of communications to the countries that are committed to funding loss and damage through the Paris agreement I think it's really important for the colleagues on this call to recognise how much progress has been made in the aspect of setting up a framework for loss and damage there are several processes that are going forward within the UNFCCC which will with headwind lead to the establishment of a facility I think colleague was talking about was talking about implementing loss and damage and this is an absolute absolute necessity for that because it has to be done multilaterally it has to be done through the United Nations I really would I put into the chat some of the papers that argue cogently for loss and damage finance facility very technical idea but it really what's happened is that adaptation and mitigation have funding facilities specifically the biggest is the green climate fund but there are others but there isn't a funding channel dedicated for loss and damage and one of the pressures that climate action network has been putting alongside least developed countries and other developing countries within UNFCCC has been including the G77 in China which is now led by Pakistan next month they have put this finance facility as being the critical need because once that's established it can then be filled in with the implementation aspects that colleagues have been talking about they have said enough thank you oh amazing contribution Jamie Williams thank you so so much does any other person have a contribution or addition to which Jamie has just said because I think from my perspective that summarizes it very very well but we have wanted two minutes to make any additions any other person no hands up okay okay Jamie sorry Chakwana to come back but I really appreciate this session this is something that it is allowing relief worldwide we've been working intensively on adaptation trying to highlight the needs for a more concerted recognition of the adaptation issues within the UNFCC and also within civil society generally but really we've come to the point which I think our colleague Suley Malhak who appeared in one of the videos has come to the adaptation we're going past adaptation we get into the point where as UNFCC identified beyond adaptation we've reached the limits of adaptation and especially the cataclysm in Pakistan was particularly resonant for our large team there and I think that it really is important to make the links between adaptation and also between local adaptation and loss and damage because they are one thing runs into another and I think possibly CBA next year could look at that relationship and see possibly the place for locally led responses to loss and damage so assuming the funding comes through and it is in the form of grants not loans one of the big contentious issues we can hope for the contributions that local leadership and community base has made to the adaptation dialogues to bring that to the loss and damage issue I'll stop again there but I'm looking forward to any contributions from others thank you thank you so much Jamie those intelligences and understanding the relationships amongst them it's super important yes that's and thank you so much for making those useful contributions yes so from my that's all we have for the session today and it was really really a pleasure having you all join and thank you so much for the contribution thank you so much James thank you Jaganata thank you for everyone that listened and made this session kind of interactive we look forward to having you all next year as well thank you so much and have a wonderful rest of your day bye


Welcome to the Knuckleheads of Liberty. Let's jump to the Knucklehead noise patrol, because we're almost out of time. And this leads right into how much confidence do Democrats really have in Joe Biden? And AOC was recently on CNN, and she was being interviewed, and they asked her, why are you guys going to endorse Biden? And what she said was, well, we'll cross that bridge when we get to it. She told Dana Bash. But I think that the president has a vision, and that's something, certainly, we're all willing to entertain and examine when the time comes. So Dana Bash said, that's not a yes. And she said, I think we should endorse when we get to it. But I believe that the president's been doing a very good job so far. And should he run again, I think we'll take a look at it. Shining endorsement of Joe Biden from their own party. They can't even get behind the guy who's currently at the helm. What do you guys think about that? Typical. I think the lack of endorsement is quite telling, you know? And you know, for once, I have to find something, a small part of a statement.   She's telling us that, and I agree.  So true choice. Good going, AOC. Thanks for telling us.  Yeah. There's not a lot to choose from in that party. Yeah. Yeah, but I almost think you might be better off with Biden than her.