Boom. So fam Anthony Johnson here today. I found her 21 studios 21 convention 22 convention 21 University Today are the nepsode special episode 21 live. I with me none other than Isabella Riley She's an influencer and ambassador for Prager University turning point USA and a few other organizations She has a giant tick tock. You can see here with 130,000 followers. I find her on Twitter a few weeks ago It's kind of interesting the tweets and ideas that we're gonna get into She's a proud anti-feminist and Liberty extremists self-described big fan of Ayn Rand Ron Paul and messy a lot of questions You know the show today. So without further ado, please let me welcome to the show Isabella Riley. Hi. Thank you so much for having me on Yeah, I'm excited.  So that's fine Exactly.  So yeah, who does do you? Thanks. Let's get into some questions. I have I'll get the hard ones out of the way first some of them anyway Hard questions will be okay. Let's go.   Insults and criticisms you get like this. Are you fake or you for real? What do you think about that? I really don't care. I really like I never never read hate comments I got a lot of hate comments, especially on tiktok. I never really read them They don't bother me if you're leaving someone hate comments or you're coming from at someone with negativity It's because you're insecure yourself so I don't really care if anything I feel bad for the people leaving the hate comments because They must be so miserable and bitter in their own lives that they feel the need to go Spend their precious time to go leave a comment on someone else's stuff whereas for me I like have to enforce myself to leave comments and interact with like my friends post because like they do it with me And I feel like I want to support them So I would never like take time out of my day to go watch something I don't like and just criticize someone You know anyone that's calling me a conserva hover so I'm not even conservative Second of all if anyone knows me in real life.  I'm like not flirtatious at all I'm like super just like ill to everyone. So it's it's so not like me. So I mean, I don't really care for me I know what my flaws are and I'm fine with that if someone points them out Then I'm like, you know what that's cool. I agree with you. That's a flaw But if someone points out something that's not true and it's At least in my opinion, then it doesn't bother me because it's not true So why would I let something not true bother me?  I think I feel like I don't get hate comments mostly although this recent video I did the one where I'm like this And it's on tiktok. I'm getting a lot of good positive comments, but tiktok is by far the worst I have one video on tiktok that has over 40 000 comments And they're all hate like it's hate.  Which are the which could be the most hate? You call them certified beta males too.  Yeah, yeah certified I would say Feminists because I think feminists who feel so betrayed by women who don't buy into feminism and are like so pro patriarchy and I mean in the negative sense that I don't agree with their definition of the patriarchy But I think feminists they just feel so betrayed I think beta males are just I don't even know like they're just I try not to interact with them And it's really embarrassing what they put so I wonder Here's one of your one of your tweets about basically beta males or male feminists I call them fishy males actually like the fishy french That's perfect. That's perfect.   We all want that I've seen so many liberal girls on tiktok be like, oh my republican boyfriend Ew like my conservative boyfriend But okay, so let's all admit that we all agree that we like the conservative Traits in a man more than the liberal feminists, which the male feminists are the creepiest ones It's like they're trying I don't know if you've heard this new term. They call them like allies like we're an ally Of feminists and it's just it's creepy like in you know, white people will do this with you know The black lives matter people I'm an ally to you like let me signal that I'm an ally It's all fraught like fake stuff and it's not for me Yeah, you have another tweeter too kind of uh, you know harpen on this see toxic masculinity is hot I have not seen a woman tweet this before like you so it's kind of interesting to see more of this Yeah, so it's funny because I don't there's not much like thought process behind these I just have random thoughts in my head and then I just like put them out there So I was just I think I tweeted that yesterday. I was sitting on the couch and I was like Toxic masculinity is hot and it's just I mean it kind of is though Like I'm really not talking about toxic in a negative sense Like that what the left will say is you know, these macho masculine men and you know positions of power Like that's kind of hot for a girl Like you want a guy that is powerful and just strong like that's let's stop pretending So I just randomly thought about it. So yeah So do you have any more further thoughts on toxic masculinity and is masculinity healthy?  They don't like that's all just that's just a lie Like the entire songs a lie, whatever But I mean, I don't really think toxic masculinity is negative in the sense that the left talks about it I just think that they hate that men tend to hold positions of power And I think they're just jealous of it and that's what feminism is doing today They're jealous of the positions of power that men tend to hold So what they want to do is they want to attack men for all these masculine traits and why they're in these positions of power Take over those positions of power. So what they really want is female supremacy But it's very strange because at the same time they want to destroy gender So they keep contradicting themselves and that's why this like, you know Irrational movement won't survive and because it keeps canceling out itself, but it's it's very interesting Yeah, you mentioned female supremacy and I'm actually known for saying that feminism is a toxic Basically hate and supremacist movement in disguise, obviously Do you consider that as well like a hate movement a supremacist movement? Oh for sure. I mean they what it is It's kind of like even with you know The black and white people like dynamic in america on a lot of black americans and like blm think that white people have dominated These positions of power so they kind of want to get back at them. It's like revenge They want to take their positions. They want the power So it's like a power struggle that these feminists are trying to have with men and then same with black lives matter with You know white people apparently so I feel like it just battles for power Okay Talking about mansplaining. I've seen you tweet a little bit about this. I didn't find a tweet on the fly for it But how do you view mansplaining and what role is it taken in your life? Um, I didn't even know it was a term until I think it was the was it the vice president debate between pens and kamala harris when they said that Pens was mansplaining so I never even heard about the term since then but when I first heard I was like Well, that is an amazing term that I just want to keep talking about and I just love being like Yeah, feminists would be a lot smarter if they just like listen to some mansplaining for once or you know The reason I attack feminists so much is because they're like Predominantly like the most hate comments they get on tiktoks. I'll often just respond to a hate comment and just kind of You know mess with them and troll them or you know, just put on display how crazy they are So I will just say yeah the only reason I know anything about taxes is because a man will mansplain it to me You should really try listening to mansplaining go learn a lot women and I just love trolling them because they just They buy into it every time. I mean they just feed right into it. They can't help themselves They're like I call them rabid feminists because that's I really believe that they're like rabid about this stuff Very emotional as women.  Yes So have you always been this inflammatory like I mentioned to you a little while ago Like your tweets start not to savage. They're highly inflammatory, which I really admire I tried to do the exact same and piss all these people off But have you always been like this? Was this some more recent development in your life? I've always been like this So I've just have always been a very outspoken person and you know, I'm not afraid to Disagree with people around me. I've always like everyone is always said I'm I can you're around me I'm always like I hate this.  I'm super like I have super polarized opinions about everything I like love her hate everything mostly hate I'm very happy like seriously. I've had I remember one time Um, I went on vacation with my friends in her family and her dad was like Is there anything that you like you just keep saying that you hate this and I just I'm always You know giving my unwanted unsolicited opinion all the time, but yeah, I've always been pretty inflammatory I love saying things that will shock people and like make people feel uncomfortable and just seeing how they react and I love especially when I troll people online and then they don't get it Like that's my favorite thing is when they don't get it I keep going and seeing how far I can take it and then they just I don't know. It's amazing. So yeah, I've always been like this. Have you always been like that? Yeah, I would say so it's gotten more aggressive. I've got an older and stuff like that But definitely it's been like that for most of my life. Yeah, so like yeah Here's a good example. So in high school my parents didn't allow me to have a smartphone until I graduated because I was always in trouble First thing were just things and like Bullying it wasn't listen. It was a girlfriend group. This girl just it was a big situation This one girl, you know came at me But I used like I remember when I was like when twitter just started I didn't even have a twitter but I was on my friend's phone and I tweeted from her account Her mom got really mad at me and I tweeted from her account. How come whenever I spread my legs I smell fish. So it's just like these things said stuff like that like just outrageous things and You went to catholic school your life or something like that, right? Yes. Yes I just always was saying outrageous things my entire life I've always had like an inappropriate mind taking things where everyone's always said as well You always just take it way too far and I'm like, you know what that I just find that interesting and funny And guess what if that alienates you good I'm someone that I will never change who I am try to fit in with someone I prefer when people don't like me because then it's less people. I have to deal with less people I have to pretend that I have to like So I love when my like polarizing personality just alienates people because it's like good If you don't like me good. Let's not hang out, but it really Is talking to you don't seem very hateful or very hateful like you're saying these things and I I know you're sincere But you seem like very kind and pleasant and like sweet and stuff. It's kind of funny to see this go on Yeah, so that's I hate everything.  It's a weird. I don't I don't get it I also I don't know if you've ever seen me tweet about this, but it's not I'm not kidding I don't laugh out loud like I've never laughed out loud like sincerely Nothing I ever find is that funny. I could find something funny, but I don't get how people can physically laugh out loud I'm jealous. I will see like my sister when she starts laughing. She can't stop and I'm like, I'm jealous That looks like an enjoyable time. I wish I could experience that much joy, but I'm just Nothing makes me laugh out loud and I'm still waiting for the day for that to happen, but yeah, it'll happen. Don't worry. I don't know I'll make sure of it I've had to learn to fake laugh or else. It's really awkward for me just to like Someone say something I'm like Let's take a few steps back. We're talking about mansplaining a few minutes ago We're talking about your relationship with your father. Would you consider him an expert mansplainer a professional mansplainer things like this? Yeah, so my I my dad always says that I am him with a vagina. I'm him with a girl clone of him Um, I always am told that Yeah So we have the same exact personality the reason why I love like Ron Paul I and Rand is because when I grew up my dad was obsessed with them Like I always say my dad was Ron Paul. My mom was iron rand My dad literally has an iron rand tattoo on him like her portrait with like a little money signed tattoo So that's why I'm so extreme in my beliefs because I was just like raised indoctrinated in like the best way possible So I was exposed to these ideas very young and yeah, I know my dad is just like me You know never shuts up always has to give his unsolicited opinion. He's very smart too logical person So yeah, he definitely mansplains a lot and he's definitely mansplains to me my mom my sister all the time And you know, we always say that me and him are the logical ones and they're the emotional, you know Women of the group So my dad always says you're way more of a guy than like my guy friends like I swear I tweeted I think a couple days ago, you know, I'm most of my guy friends It's not all of them all the guys in my life are more emotional than me I even say my dad's more emotional than me. I don't get emotional So I really do feel like I'm a man trapped in the woman's body. So I might come out of the training one day Wow, I hope not. I'm not into the the trans stuff, but You're you're definitely female in the brain and I think in some ways that you maybe don't realize quite yet I'm very like feminine. I love like being girly, you know, I like makeup and like cute clothes I don't do my nails because I enjoy biting them too much. But you know, I'm girly in that sense But in terms of how I think that's what the big thing is how I think is definitely like a guy like I have like the biggest like bs detector.  So I just always That's a very feminine thing actually that's something women do a lot. That's true because they're very like calculating Like they're very calculative minds. So that's that's true, but And I think your parents are still married. You mentioned your dad mansplains a lot to your mom and your sister Yeah, yeah, they've been they were each other's first together since they're like 15 So Yeah, they've been together for a while. Oh, they're younger because they had me when they were 20. So So there's they're only 20 years older than me.  My grandma had my uncle like 16 That was a long time ago, but yeah, well, that's crazy. I could not imagine Let's shift gears a little bit Following obviously my twitter you've seen make women great again. How do you feel about that? What was your first impression about that? It's genius. It really does make sense You know this trend of thanks to feminism of making women ugly, you know Like I swear to god, they just want to make women as ugly as possible and women It's like and it's also this idea that women would be happier like being married to a corporate job than being married to a husband and It's all against, you know, they the feminist claim that they care about the woman's right to choose But it's only the women's right to choose what they want them to do You know, you can't be a single mom. You can't and realistic. So what's funny news? I actually like don't want kids So this is the funny thing about my twitter I like play the part of a tradwife, but I'm like I have no maternal instinct whatsoever at all But if I were to have kids, I'm sure I would like them So I like I understand that like I love animals I like act like they're my children So I'm sure if I had a baby I would feel the same way But I have no like instinct in me to be like I really want kids and that's mostly because I want to be very selfish in my career And I feel like kids need to stay at home mom. So I feel like it wouldn't be fair But if I had a husband that really wanted kids and whatever and if I ever got pregnant I've never you know, I'm not a child murderer. So I would have the kids But um, I don't really have a maternal bone in my body I forgot the main question Uh, at this point, I'm not even sure you just keep going to tangent. It's great though. Just keep going. This is just ramble That's the thing. I don't know how to shut up But everyone's gonna love it. Just keep going. This is great. Okay. So yeah I don't know It's very weird because you would think for my twitter that I'm like I want to be a stay-at-home mom and just have like 20 kids and that's really not the case whatsoever but Um, I just your your 22, right? Yeah So 22 is actually peak fertility for women too. So you're actually the most fertile you've ever been in your life And you'll ever be so it's kind of interesting I don't know. I feel like it'd be younger honestly. Nope 21 22. You're right at that age. Yeah, interesting. Interesting. Yeah, I don't know I mean You mentioned abortion though. Let's talk about that. Yes How do you feel about abortion? How do you view it? Like what do you what are your actual philosophical stances on it? Why do you oppose it? What are the reasons if you can define them? So one thing so I'm pro life I I don't even like when people say I think it's a life. I know it is.  I don't need to say I think it's a life when life I think life starts a conception. No, it does Okay, that's what the science says. So let's get around that. I'm very particular with language So, um, I would never, you know, get an abortion. I think it's disgusting I think it's really I don't understand why the feminists have really championed abortion Like if anything just say that people get into tough circumstances and it's ugly But like sometimes it needs to happen, which I disagree with but that's a lot better than shout your abortion I don't understand why they're so passionate about this. It's a very strange No, they celebrate it not too. It's sick.  I literally am not religious I would do catholic school my whole life I say I'm agnostic now because the only reason I didn't I was an atheist before was I was like Well, I don't have proof. There's a god, but I also don't have proof. There's no god So I'm gonna I'm agnostic. I don't care. I don't find the topic interesting whatsoever But it's talking about being inflammatory in high school I used to say to my religion teachers that religious people are as dumb as liberals So I used to say these things all the time. I used to be in trouble all the time. It was always a problem, but Yeah, so um, I was the same way every troublemaker, you know rascal these things. It's good. It's good It's a good way to live I used to like I remember my entire life growing up English teachers always hated me You know, the English teachers are always like the liberal women, you know, I remember Um, I freshman year in high school some like we were talking. She was very political and we were talking about You know, we should ban guns because that will stop gun violence. I'm like, well You know, we should I don't think um the fact that we make it illegal to do drugs It really stops people from doing drugs, you know, like it doesn't make sense people are still going to do these things You know, so I used to always argue and debate with these people and everyone knew in high school Like I was pro-trump It was like when I was sad because he won right after You were in high school and Trump was running in 2015 2016.  We'll see what happens in 2024. How do you feel about trump of 2024 desantis things like that? So, um, I'm kind of in a pickle because I don't know if you're familiar with dave smith. He's like a libertarian Um, he'll be running in the libertarian ticket. I mean he is but he just hasn't fully announced yet I agree with the way everything that he says so it's like and he doesn't even think he's going to win It's more of like to like ron paul spread the ideas of liberty. He's trying to like wake people up He doesn't really think that he's going to win So like I'm going to be in a struggle because it's I mean in new york I'm not really wasting about anyways because it's going to go to the democrat anyways but I don't know. It's it's going to be tough but um, It's more savage than uh, the libertarian candidates recently sucked like so A woman like a terrible Right, so I don't know if you keep up with the like that. There's a lot of fighting going on a libertarian party right now So I identify with the mesas caucus people the mesas institute austrian economics. That's that's me like all that That's me. That's how I feel like rothbard. You know, um Iron rands kind of been there too. That's sort of thinking like ultra capitalistic free market. That's how I feel What tom woods? Yes, I love tom woods. Yes, exactly. So that's how I think Dave smith's friends with tom wood. I don't know. Do you know michael malis? Uh, yeah, I know that guy on twitter Yeah, he's good. He is so funny. He's like the king of trolling on twitter But um, I'm almost an anarchist like I'm almost an ancap. I'm trying so hard not to be because at the same time You know, I want bill. I want a wall. I want a wall around the entire perimeter.  I see them and I can see you shifting ideologically over time Well, you're such a young age that you're gonna keep, you know, figuring out We'll be getting a big ancap I can see you trying in that direction exactly like you're saying like I've seen your tweets kind of lean that way Yeah, no, I'm definitely it's um, I'm definitely figuring that stuff out right now and watching, you know, this All these people like tom woods michael malis dave smith everything they say I I've never disagreed with it But I also feel like I do want border security, you know And the thing is with um the past libertarian candidates. They're the lulbergs the woke libertarians That's why if you go in my bio, it says paleo libertarian because I want to Differentiate myself from the woke lulbergs because they're insane.  Uh, no, I'm a romp all republican.  I mean I mean he has a face on his lip like he literally has a face like this big on him tattooed so Okay, so So Yeah, so that's something it's so funny I don't know if you get this too But so many people will be like, oh if you like ian rand if you like ron paul, you shouldn't like trump I'm like, okay These people online love to tell me what I can and cannot think Just because I like someone doesn't mean I agree with all their policy positions So I'm like the opposite of most conservatives where there will be like I like trump for his policies But you know his rhetoric. I don't really like that his tweets. I'm not for it. I'm the opposite I like his rhetoric. I like his tweets the meaner the better.  I think he opened up a conversation He really popularized the term um fake news, you know enemy of the people He really made that a thing where so many people if you don't have a phrase for it It's hard to kind of conceptualize it So he really woke a ton of people up and that being said I wish he did more I wish he actually built the wall and I think you know, he did increase the size of the government I did like his tax cuts, but there wasn't I mean his policies weren't all like what I would perfectly want The only person I fully agree with is myself, you know So people are very annoying online to tell me what I can and cannot think if I think something Would you have preferred ron paul over uh trump? Yes Okay, you would never get a lesson Yeah, so pulling policy wise. I understand you're saying that was a huge ron paul guy back in the day 2009 2012 stuff like that when he ran Right, so that's the reason why dave smith wants to run because he he became a libertarian because of ron paul So many people did he really brought these um liberty messages to the forefront on the presidential stage just being there Even though he didn't win he really like, you know started a liberty movement So that's what dave smith is trying to do because ever since he hasn't run anymore. It's kind of died down Yeah, well libertarians have taken over Talk to me a little bit. I know and it sucks because it used to be so much more hardcore back in the day Talk to me a little bit more about uh ron paul. You mentioned your dad obviously super into him He grew up you raised on this like a diet of ron paul or ron paul and iron rand Uh, but like what how young were you? You actually remember hearing about these ideas and these names like ron paul Are there like figures in your head like story bedtime stories about ron paul? Always my dad was just always complaining about the government So as long as I can remember, I mean I probably don't have any memories of specific political issues until maybe like early high school Definitely like freshman year of high school maybe middle school because I was always like running my mouth but Yeah, and then I and rand I started watching interviews of her like non-stop like a few years ago And I never even realized that the portrait was her until I started watching interviews of her And I remember I was like on my back porch with my father one day and I looked I'm like wait That's I and rand like I never even put two and two together, you know, I'm kind of slow as a woman So right off of iron rand is she's just like She's just so hardcore and she like me never laughs. She's always like just so like stern and she does not care to Just shock people. She's also not just saying shocking things to shock people But she's like I love the whole and a lot of conservatives will get mad at me for saying that's like the whole The concept of the virtue of selfishness. I so agree with that I really do think that it is wrong to live your life for other people because that's a lie Everyone lives their lives for themselves if I help someone it's because I have an interest in helping them I don't want to I don't help people that I don't want to help I get annoyed when people like reach out to me like oh, can you like do this or can you do that? Like that's annoying. I want to help people because I want to help people You know if you help pay for your like spouse's education or something It's because you have an interest you're you're in love with them You want to help them you have an interest in it So it's somewhat selfish and I think that there is like a negative stigma around the word selfish And I think you know, it's not selfish to want to keep your own money that you earned Like these sort of things that the left will say it's selfish and something like I always had libertarian principles And just things that would get I would get enraged about growing up. I remember in high school at lunch I would have you know, I'd bring a little lunch and my friends that I'd sit with would be like Oh, can I have this can I have that and I'd be like no I brought this for me Like this is my lunch that I brought to enjoy.  What's wrong to share? What's the big deal and it's that same exact principle the left will be like you have enough money Why don't you want to share like stop being so selfish like no What are you doing just pay for sure give me all of it Exactly So I had situations like that growing up that I always noticed now looking back at it now like from now I'm like, wow, these are really just simple like the libertarian principles that Ron Paul talks about You know non-aggression everything's voluntary you choose what you want to do. That's at the basis of capitalism That's why it's the only moral system It's because it's the only system where both parties are just voluntarily choosing to engage in commerce with each other So it's the only you know moral system and that iron rand says it's the most attacked system And it kind of has to be because it makes so much sense that obviously it needs to have the most targets on its back It's going to you know only the effective people in politics get you know all these hit articles against them They're trying to take down someone like matt gates because he's so effective. So yeah We'll put we'll put you're well around on these issues. This is pretty good Uh, let's shift gears a little bit.     It's literally free. It's the cheapest diet you could possibly have And I just I just don't have any sympathy for it. Like I said earlier I just always like I can pick up like bs excuse detector all the time. Like that's I just cannot stand excuses I can't stand when people lie to justify like their own, you know actions just just own it Be like, you know, I eat too much. I don't exercise enough. I like to eat unhealthy Let's stop lying and then also the body positivity movement. There's nothing positive about being overweight It's pretty disgusting that we're today in society. We're like perpetuating and promoting beings having these unhealthy lifestyles You don't see people promoting being Interrexic people would freak out if that were to ever happen. So why are we promoting being, you know, morbidly obese?  Oh my god. You're so like gorgeous. Okay.  You're pressure flipping. That's pretty quick That's clever. That's good. Do you feel that in America? Fat men and fat women are treated differently and for example I know for a fact that uh women are actually more prone in America to obesity and severe obesity It's actually affected more by it, which maybe is explaining why they're so That's such a bad relationship with it. But do you see a difference there in how men and women are treated when they're fat? I guess that um, there's maybe a standard like I Would much rather have a guy be like overweight than a girl I think a girl like needs to have like a better looking body. You're supposed to be like more put together So maybe there is more of a pressure, but I think that's a good thing I think like bullying and everything is good. I mean not in a terrible sense But in a sense where you know You should feel some sort of pressure to you know, like look just somewhat healthy. I mean, that's just normal That's part of life. That's natural selection. So I don't know. I guess um men they don't tend you post pictures as much as girls online So I guess they just have less pressure on them, but I think that makes sense. I don't know Yeah, what do you think on that? Yeah, yeah, good question. I like this. So yeah, I think men are treated differently Being a fat guy in America is not as accepted as women. It should be the other way around. Okay.  So it's a victim hierarchy.   It's important, especially for fertility and things like this Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's being flipped upside down. I think so there should be more shame and pressure on women to be lean There should be someone meant to dadbots.   That's the issue.   You can't control your height. So shut up But yeah, no, I I agree. There should be you know more shame on being skinny I'm not saying that you need to be like anorexic or anything But I I agree like whenever I see like, you know, I talk about this with people and just it's hard to respect someone when they're so Huge because it's like you're just a slaw. Like you can't get it together to I mean, I'm not saying that you need to be like Super skinny, but you're so big. Like you can't get it together Like it's kind of laziness and weirdness. I don't know gave us a five dollar super chat And he said why aren't there any plus size male models? That's a good point You see these in these fat models. I forget terraces or things in fact I don't know any of their names, but yes, I try not to remember their names I know I know it's very like your your job is a model. I'm sorry Like part of the hard thing about being a model is being skinny and being like the perfect physique Something that annoys me beyond all all belief is when I'm like online shopping or something and there's you know They mix in the plus size stuff and I'm like Can you get this out? Can this can there be a separate section? But no, they don't want to make them feel like other and sad But it's like you're wasting my time that I have to scroll through these fat clothes Like just differentiate like they probably don't want to see all these skinny clothes either Like just differentiate, but they don't want to hurt their feelings But yeah, that's a good question Why is there no plus size guy models for the exact reason what what you said is that we can't criticize women?  This is make women thin again This is really fundamental to why I had it made is that you can't criticize women You can't say let's make them great again make them cook again make them thin again Make them hot again all these things And so I think fundamentally it's my piss. So you saw the news articles that pissed like millions of people off It was a lot of fun. It was the biggest role in my life. It was awesome I love it and it's it's kind of weird because you know, I do the same thing where I troll But there's like some level of truth to it like exactly. I'm kind of serious Like we really should be promote like make women um great again mattress lives matter What's that even mean?  I think or something. Oh true. True. True. Yeah, we'll see what he says. Yeah, explain yourself But we do need to make them a great again. I mean, it's a troll, but it's also very real The convention banner that you see as a whole event. I did for this. You should speak at it I think you'll be killer you'll pass off I've never spoken to anything.  We have a few of them. Yeah speaking this year. So you want anyone? I know Uh, probably I just invited dr. Helen Smith. She's a famous anti-feminist and I've confirmed I've confirmed now my favorite anti-feminist. She's a queen of anti-feminism Professor Janice Femengo Wait, I feel I've actually seen was she ever on Dave Rubin? Yep. Okay. I think I've seen her.  I don't know Yeah, Christina Hoff Summers is like Janice Femengo light. She's not as hardcore as Janice.  Do you know what's her name Camille Paglia? Yeah, I'm gonna bite her too. I think I did actually She's so hardcore. She is so on it. She's so smart. She's so on it.  So she's she's hilarious too. That's the British lady, right? Yeah, yeah, she's actually I think she's America's still right now, but she's she's hilarious. She's she's savage Yeah, yeah, woman have to be savage to be a good woman. Otherwise, there's losers Yeah, but I do think that sometimes like remember when Megan so Megan Kelly I actually never liked her. I remember when she was a part of like the fox prime time lineup My dad always liked her and I don't know when agrees with me. I prefer Sean Hannity over Tucker I don't know when agrees with me. It's fine. But yeah, you're like, yeah, I don't agree with you But I think Tucker takes it too far sometimes with the whole like I don't think he takes it far enough He needs to be more savage. I think he should be more hardcore. No, I'm talking about in terms of he gets annoyed You know, he's so like anti-business, which I'm not pro-business. I'm anti-business merging with the government But he's so like he's not a capitalist, which I don't like. Yeah, there's some issues. I don't agree with Tucker on Let me be clear on that. That's what I mean Yeah, but you know, he's I love his anti-war positions I just think Sean Hannity has like no ego and I've heard that he really started a ton of careers And whenever he has like a guest on he always like talks them up and whenever they try to say anything positive about him He's like, no, no, no, like let's talk about you. He just seems like he's so Humble and like willing to help everyone and just so genuine.   I think genuinely when Trump came around but back in like 2010 He's watching it back then so I don't really know but I remember young you're so young. You're just a kid This is crazy. Right. Like I like on fox. I like marco van a lot. Um, his podcast is good He's like super he can be very inflammatory too on his podcast I mean not on his fox show on his podcast like he is He's not afraid to call out names, but oh, yeah, so making Kelly back to her I never really liked her and I felt like when she chopped her hair off You know, she used to be kind of hot when she had long hair and she I swear to god, this is just my instinct I don't know. I don't know her. I've never this is just my intuition She chopped her hair because she wanted to seem like harsher more of like masculine Like she wants to play some persona that she's more of a tough woman to compensate for her being a woman And I see this a lot in politics Where I see women who put on like a different personality whenever they're on camera And they try to seem like way more flamboyant louder and like more tough And it just seems like they're playing a character, which I always find super phony I wonder I should probably shouldn't say any names.  Partly. I'm just teasing But for example, Tommy Lauren is a perfect example of a conservative bimbo fake maga thought And I think her screeching against men a few months ago back in like august or september that demonstrated Trash all manner trash that one.  That's why I put the duck face on the Yeah, my my video editor Yeah, like yeah, no, I I totally agree with you on her and you know, I've never the second she said abortion's a constitutional, right? I don't respect you like I'm sorry. It's just not it's it's not just you can say you're a pro abortion Don't say it's a constitutional, right? It's obviously not it's not in the constitution that was completely made up So let's put that aside But I agree I saw that video of her ranting about like her like ex fiance or whatever And that's something that pisses me off. I see it on tiktok all the time.   Can you swear on here? I feel like I've said a couple swears Yeah, I don't care. Don't worry about it.   It's a bit different even my hardcore christian friends. They agree with that But for women, it's just like it's very toxic and very dangerous and it's still pretty slow off like a cliff Yeah, because I mean men they're like by nature.  I've you know growing up in high school and college all of my friends are you know Very sluts they all wear I never judge them for it. I don't care and they they seem to have loved it Like whatever I never judge them for but I've never Um had any interest in being like that in my life I just don't like like I said earlier like I pretty much like not flirtatious I like don't really care to get attention from guys if anything I'm like unless you're my friend already I like want nothing to do with you whereas my friends like they would hook up in college You're a different guy every night like for three nights in a row. No problem. They loved it They didn't seem to have any issues, but I could never do that. I think that's disgusting Why would I want anyone to like see me like that unless I'm like, you know in love with them? I don't know I I don't get it and I do think it really promotes the worst impulses in women and leads them down a life of misery Where they you know start devaluing themselves And then by the time they're 40, they're like, oh, I don't really have a life partner Maybe I can't have kids and it kind of just leaves them down a life of misery Well, a lot of them my age and millennials and you'll see this with gen Z.  Like I'm I'm happy they didn't abort the child But we should not be like when you promote things you're going to get more of it when you're giving like tax incentives of certain behaviors you're going to get more of it Or less of it if you subsidize it, you'll get more of it So that's the same thing with um, you know With the tax code they make it so if you don't have a man in the house Then you get more money or something like that and I learned about that in some family law class a couple years ago But and I obviously will get more back You took a family law class in college or high school college. Okay. Yeah, so yeah, no, so it was an interesting class, but um Yeah, that was I agree. I think it's terrible. We should not be you know promoting single motherhood again I'm not against them. I'm happy you didn't abort your child, but Yeah, it's not good for the girl either. You kind of need to mail this What 72 72% of inmates in most prisons are like raised by single mothers That's how bad it is for children and colter wrote a whole book on it. Actually. I think that cover What buck she's she's written so many bucks. Yeah, I don't know the name of it, but I can find it She's famous for it because it basically proves that uh single motherhoods is single worst thing that can happen to a child in America Beyond anything else and it's across demographics racial lines religious lines where you live What state all that crap if you're raised by a single mother not a single father, which is bad too But you have some like authority figure as a father I'm sure you could be an authority figure as a mother too But you know men tend to be more of the authority powerful figures So having at least the male energy is super important, especially for um, I mean I guess in both I was gonna say especially for men because you they could lead down Like leave them down a life of violence but for women too because it's really you know You hear about daddy issues and that's a thing So yeah, you seem to have the opposite of daddy issues Yeah, no, I'm my dad and I are like best friends. We are like one in the same So I've always like he's always said I don't have to worry about you because I just like I can I can tell if someone's a good person or not I've never really let anyone treat me like trash ever again If you say I'll men are trash you're the trash because you're letting them treat you like trash Now we have a question from a super chat here one of the guys watching Sean five bucks Thanks, bro He's a question for Isabella. Who do you like as far as 2024 presidential candidates? I really like Candice Owens before you answer. I ran was famous who asked asked on tv back in like 1972 Something like that on uh, Phil Donahue. Would you ever vote for a female candidate for president specifically? So answer this question and then if you have comments on would you even vote for a female candidate? Candice Owens or whoever it doesn't matter female period thoughts Okay, so female period I guess I Would but it's very unlikely So if it was someone like myself that actually thinks like a guy like you would have to think like a guy not think like a female Which I've never met another girl that thinks like maybe maybe like, you know, Ann Coulter is a good example She's really like, you know, logical. Whatever. I really like her But in terms of Candice Owens, I mean I would vote for her opposing a democrat But she's I feel like it's very premature. Is she even old enough? Oh, she is She you have to be 36. I don't even know I thought she said that she was like, oh, I'm gonna run in 2024. Maybe I'm hearing that wrong If she turns 36 by then she could run or by the time I think you have to be 36 by the time you swear in probably so 2025 January is when that would be Well, um, she would not be my first choice. Um, I mean she's she's good I mean, she just says a lot of great things But she's really not my favorite personalism too Honestly, there's not many girls and if any girls in politics that I really like I love everything She says I like Ann Coulter like Katie Hopkins. I like Michelle Malkin But those are really like the only really names that I feel like are tough women that I actually respect and She's awesome. She has like a I think a Saturday show on news max She's really talking like immigration and she just gives no she doesn't care about what anyone thinks but Um, yeah, I like Ron DeSantis. Um, I don't think like I think Trump's gonna run though He's he pretty much alluded to on Candice's show saying, you know, I would announce something But the fec will get mad at me and will cause a ton of trouble but So wait, but he's also gonna be having rallies like he's going to run. I don't know who's Because bp would be I think Candice even said oh me as the vp, ha ha Which that would be kind of interesting. But what are your thoughts on Candice? I like Candice. I don't think she's a conservative. I know early on when she got started. There was a thing with Dave Rubin She's not a conservative conservative. She's not I don't think I agree. I agree Yeah, she's not like time to learn. I think she's I think she's savage and legit She takes a lot of heat and uh, she's strong. I think like uh, she's a good woman Now I've been like done huge research in her but those are my thoughts at this time. She's cool. Yeah. No, I agree. She's definitely um outspoken sometimes I feel like she does start like fights just to like Yeah, well up, but you know, it works So she she blew up and she's doing great and now she's a show with the daily wire, which is awesome for her So I agree. I think I saw some like old twitter fight between her and tommy But I mean that tommy is who are who are the other conservative hoes? I don't even know Like many conservative women like who are they? I found one it seemed uh cpac that I was disappointed in I forget her name. She's like the ken state gun girl or something She's working in fours. I don't know. Oh, um, katelyn bennett. Yeah, I don't like she's definitely a conservative home So we'll be fine conservative home That's well for example and specifically here Well, I'll define I'll answer that and then also, you know, this girl. What's her name Katie or something? katelyn bennett Yeah, katelyn bennett. Yeah, so that's based off a first impression I talked to her for a few minutes and that's for example opposed to um, let's have black girl's name She was tweeting I either the day that black girl, uh, katelyn kady katelyn krillik I'm not saying it right She's she ran for congress, uh in 20. Oh, I'm really classic Yeah, I think that one. Yeah, she's cool. Baltimore. Yeah, Baltimore. Yeah. Yeah, I interviewed her and stuff She's cool.  It's like, okay. This girl is feminine She's sweet. She's genuine. She seems like a patriot that other girl That seems like it's a brat talked to her for a couple minutes. She's all about like followers and drama Who's chasing around some CNN dude Jim Acosta? I saw that. Yeah I can tell her chasing him around. So that's funny. We were like in the same vicinity I didn't take her to the plane till after c-pack. So Okay, yeah, you probably walked by me like 10 times. I was only the media booth and stuff over there Oh, probably. Yeah, so I haven't talked to her. I follow her on like social media, but okay, so you I agree. I think the whole like follower count thing is super lame Like I would be with people and they would say, oh, how many followers do you have on tiktok?   I think they're super lame I'm just never impressed with anything that anyone does and especially myself and super hard on everyone And it's weird because I'm very confident, but I also like never thinking I do enough So but I'm not upset about it. That makes sense. I view myself as an objectivist I'm random in the same way. It's extremely judgmental. So I told you I was judging you and I'm not kidding I'm always judging you and everybody all the time everything I have opinions and everything like you're saying So it's actually I think it's a good thing to be judgmental. This is not a douchebag way Right. No, I'm recognizing the douchebag ring. Everyone has always told me I'm super judgmental and critical Like I can never just be like, yes, that's amazing But when I do say when I do compliment something or someone they're like, wow coming from you That is like a great thing because I know how like sincere and you're being honest So I've always been told I'm mean, but I'm just being honest if you're going to ask me my opinion on something I'll tell you the truth. I've always had problems with girls. So do you like my outfit? I'll speak and they're asking me I'm not the one saying it. They're asking they're they're asking for it. Do I look fat? Yeah, you look fat lose some weight Yeah, and then they don't want to hear the truth and that's why like I've always said I've had friends be like, I don't know if I can be friends with someone as like mean as you Okay, cool. Let's move on. All right. We don't need to be friends But yeah, I'm always judging people and I actually respect that you're honest about it Most people are gonna judging you know, I am we all are judging each other some more than others And I'm not doing it in a way to be rude, but I'm just you know, taking mental notes. So There's an iron ran quote from the fountain head It's not something it's not verbatim here But basically she said it's cruel to be honest and the more honest you are the more cruel it is and it's not a She wasn't me.   I'm like, thanks Like it's a compliment. I totally agree with her assessment. Um, and it's not even that it's necessarily like all these words I think she what I really learned reading her is that she will like you'll take a word like selfish, you know Or like cruel and it has a negative connotation to it, but it doesn't necessarily need to be she just it's the truth It's the objective truth. Yes, if you're more honest, it's going to be cruel because the truth hurts If something like I said if someone points out a flaw of mine That's actually a I believe to be true and it's a true flaw Then maybe that would bother me more than if someone's like, oh you're a hoe. Well, I know I'm not so why would that bother me? You know, so I totally agree with that assessment And I think that she's spot on with that and a lot of people say that she was too inflammatory to the Point where it hurt her but it for me. I love that. I love the brutal honesty Like I love when someone's inflammatory even if I disagree with you like I can respect it So I personally am attracted to those things. That's what attracted me to trump even all more of a libertarian Yeah, yeah, same.    He responds to attacks on him on him He doesn't go after people until they go after him first Yeah, exactly.  I got elected basically and that's what's good about Ron DeSantis too.  I almost got to meet him Oh, really?  Like I just love that personality That you f you don't talk to me like brutally honest. I love that personality like I Could not are you aware of the florida man meme and the florida women like the florida people because i'm like a Floridian yeah, you need to get educated. I'll do some mansplaining for you sometime Okay, okay, perfect.  Okay. Oh, so that's where a c-pack was Yeah, it's why it's so easy to go.  I just live here right there Yeah, I know There's another c-pack in Dallas. I think yeah, I might go to it. I heard about that on saturday at the ronda Santas thing I might go A yowl event that i'm going to go to yowl like young americans for liberty in her life Okay, I don't know anyone going to that so i'm like still deciding if i'm going to go, but I should go You should go i'm going. Yeah, okay. I don't know I like I got to meet rom paul a long time ago and take pictures with him I actually had him sign my copy of the declaration of penance and constitution Which i'll like never forget, but I want to meet ram paul and I haven't met him yet I think he's cool. He's not quite as savage as his dad, but he's close Yes, so see for me. I don't really care about meeting people Like I just think they're people like I don't care. I also like at c-pack I felt that was like my first political event ever c-pack and I felt bad for all the people that were bigger names Because they were swarmed they couldn't like hang out like they were swarmed by people I felt bad for them. I would never like I have a role I won't go up to someone unless they go up to me. So like there's someone I'm famous that I know I'm not going to go up to them.    So they just you don't mean bad That's the thing right? It's like you're putting yourself out there for it to happen, but I just feel bad for the bigger people. Like I don't want to add to their like discomfort. You know what I mean? So it's called empathy. Yeah, it's good It's unusual of women that women have today. So congratulations. That's uh unusual I'll say too though that the reason I like to meet people with their pictures with them is if they're going to die someday Um, I got to meet for example, uh, Nathaniel Brandon who out of the shrug was dedicated to the original one before him and I ran got a fight I got to meet him about a year before he died and spend like five hours with them And I pictures with them and stuff like that, but it was very memorable Yeah That's an issue. So I like never take pictures when I'm out with anyone So the only pictures I ever have of myself are either selfies because I force myself to that's why you see me post selfies but it gets with other people like I don't ever take pictures with them. So it's always on someone else's phone. Like it's just always a problem.  It's really annoying especially for someone like I want my instagram feed to not just be I don't Do you follow me? Do we follow each other on instagram? I think I follow you on instagram I don't like instagram though.  It's such an annoying app But like I just post everything I do every on there But my feed is only videos like I need most people's like mostly pictures in a couple videos Like I need more pictures. So it's very it's a struggle.   So I think I think you're doing pretty good You're navigating all these hierarchies and stuff on twitter and all the stuff you do. I watch what you do It's pretty interesting. You're really good at it. Yeah, they're pretty good. You yeah I'd approach the project baritone stuff. I was asking about that All these things you're you're really good at uh It's a it's a compliment. You're good at navigating these hierarchies Basically as I would be them as a man and climbing these these ranks and uh getting your message out there to influence and piss people off Yes, I like only started like I started post posting on social media December of 2020 and started doing political tiktoks and then my account got banned. So that's when I started posting them to instagram I made my instagram account literally January 1st and then I had an old twitter account from high school had to delete all those past tweets would definitely get me in trouble But then after c pack people were like, bitch You need to start tweeting if you want to like actually start getting your name out there because like no one's on tiktok besides young people Instagram's okay, but like twitter is where it's at if you want to actually meet people So I just started doing twitter and I honestly don't know why I've grown like grown so fast.  But you know do it. It's the woman's privilege I swear to god It's like I've always this is why I've always rejected feminism because you know, I've been a girl my whole life I've only felt like it's brought me a ton of privileges, you know at college parties You know if you're a guy unless you know someone throwing the party, you know, they don't want you to come in girls Please come in the more the merrier, you know, I've always felt so privileged and especially with social media You know, you could just be have I mean I don't know any girls that are like my age or even older on like tiktok or any that I'm like impressed with No offense to them like none of them. I don't see any of them as competition. I'm not even whenever But oh, yeah, I'm gonna pull this tweet. You have there's so many great tweets. Let's go on this one. This is a great one Yeah, okay full of tweets. I've I've never seen a woman tweet like this.  He sees all my tweets Whatever he loved it and I'm like, okay. Is this like funny or is it just like conceded? Which I'm fine. Come in cross conceded It's hysterical because you're walking that line really it's a really thin line and you're walking it like a tight rope It's good. It's funny Yeah, so I um just recently like I have like a new show started Well, we have like the pilot episode out I don't know if you know, do you know Gavin wax? He's the president of the new york and republicans club I retweet him all the time I think you tweet him. I beg you to say Gavin McKinnis, but yeah, I've seen that guy you tweet him Yeah, so he's he's really great So we have like a show and actually speaking of Gavin McGinnis Gavin McGinnis like reached out to us and want it's like doing the show with us But we just recently went on Gavin McGinnis's show and on the show he asks me to rate myself and Right, like one like one to ten.  She's a seven.  You've been a real pc true. This is what I'm saying though Like I am just like waiting for the day for like turning point and prager to be like Yeah Like I don't understand why they're okay Like I I don't get it because turning point will like retweet my tweets sometimes and I'm like so they're seeing I don't know if they see all my tweets, but they're seeing my tweets and I really do walk the line Yep, I do the same thing. I have a lot of relationships with speakers from I've been doing my thing for 15 years Now so I just have hundreds of people that watch, you know privately what I do that are important to me these relationships And whenever I tweet I'm like, I wonder what this is going to do for that relationship and then I'm like who cares tweet But same same. I'm always thinking like, okay Well, all these people are going to read it. I wonder what they're going to think and it's you know If they don't get it then they don't get it But yeah, I'm shocked that you know turning point wanted me to be an ambassador I Don't get it. You asked me a few minutes ago what the definition essentially of the conservative home And this is So basically what happens to women that do not have integrity is that they might start out like doing what you're doing This is what the manager guys would say a chameleon kind of thing. I don't think they're correct though But basically they're savage savage savage time goes by they pick up a following and they get retweeted by bigger accounts They get their videos shared wherever and basically there comes like a threshold point a turning point where they sell out They tone down the rhetoric they tone down this and that for basically illegitimate reasons is to get more money So that's what I mean when I say conservative time you learn it's a perfect example Even if she thought the way you did which I don't think she does She would never say these things because it would jeopardize her job It would jeopardize her career at least for a short term period of time She'd get fired or whatever.  They're fake. They're frauds Totally know exactly what you're saying and this is something I've actually like talked about a lot with my dad Is he's like you kind of have to make a decision If you're going to like want to make more money and kind of self self censor yourself Or if you want to be completely yourself and I was like, I want to be completely myself I mean, obviously I want to make money, right? Like I want to make money. I want to be successful But I I'm not someone that will jeopardize my principles. I'm a very principle person I don't care. Like I don't care people would say it's bad to associate yourself with gavin mcginnis I don't think that what he's done is wrong.  He's not I don't care. I don't like fine. Do you think it's bad for me to associate with him? Cool, I don't care to be honest like yes If like fox and all these other shows like I've been on newsmax a couple of times that they asked me to go on I would go on but I have no desire to have a show on fox news Like no desire actually tweeted out the other day something to the effect of you know Anyone that is successful in the main true media like why is it themselves can't be fully themselves like sensors themselves I don't want to do that. I don't I just I don't want to do that and I also My personality is not good for it. I think what makes me like different from everyone else is like I'm very like quick-witted. I say kind of crazy things just comes to my mind and I say things like my first time I was on newsmax I didn't even realize I said it until my dad said maybe you shouldn't have said that on like live tv your first time But I said the only person that can change their skin color is michael jackson I don't know why I said that I don't think that's that controversial, but it's I guess Right, that's what I thought but my dad was like I don't know if they're gonna invite you back on but which they did But I don't want to be censoring myself with a you know my like Humor which women aren't funny, but you know what I mean like my sense of humor which makes me different from everyone else I don't want to just be like another clone of another, you know pretty girl. That's talking reading a prompter That's not what I want to do another another zombie Yeah, that's that's not what I want to do.   I don't like I get money is a great motivator But it's really hard for me to put myself in a position where I would take a real friendship Put it like hide it for money. I don't know.   Oh, yeah I know how this goes. Yeah, I know. Oh, yeah. No. Yeah, it was it was never good I like one time made fun of like my math teacher who was a man I was like, why are you deep-throating that banana? This was like softening your high school Like these things like I just these things come to my head and I always take it too far And I don't want to censor myself. I just I just don't want to Do you have any filters at all?    I am that's the thing I need to fix But there's a lot of sexual jokes.  So In real life though, I don't really censor myself. Good. God bless. I'll never get married Okay, I was yeah, there's a question. So when will she get married? I'm kidding. Are you married? Uh, no, I was a long time ago Not did not end well. Does she think you're trash? Uh, no, I left her. I found out she was prostitute Like what do you mean like a like a not an only fans type thing but like an actual escort She called herself a call girl technically there's a speech on eating a watch and it's called marrying medusa How to survive a female psychopath? It's got about half a million views.  They're both just like the devil. I mean a little bit less for instagram But I don't know I like youtube youtube is very masculine space. It's a lot of men to do it It's very few women not the many feminists. It's mostly those pass holes and men like me and stuff I've heard that all the demographics all like it's kind of interesting to compare demographics with followers from each different platform And yeah, no, I I have a youtube. I've posted like two of my tiktok videos on there. That's it I want to make youtube videos, but You know about shorts youtube shorts, you know, those are I've heard about that. What are those? It's basically youtube's program to compete with tiktok. It's like very specific under a minute And if you don't if you just take your tiktok videos and shoot like that and put them on youtube and put hashtag shorts You'll make bank like all night long with you. Really? I can do this right now. Yeah Well, I appreciate we finished the interview first, but after that you can go do it Yeah, no, I'm gonna start posting them right now.  Let's start. We can start some beef some fake beef. So who are you? So I wonder any other conservative hoes. I think that's a really good definition And I guess you can't tell yet because like you said they start off like very strong and you know going so you really only time will tell But there's there's men there's men like this too in conservative circles in the manosphere Like they're basically just frauds.  We'll sell out.   That's so like against everything I've ever said for I just I don't I don't like it at all Who else I don't know. I mean, I don't track conservative hoes isn't like a life mission or like hunt a list Yeah, I could I mean we could it could be a lot of fun. Actually. I maybe I should roast them That would be that would be funny. Like that would be a good youtube video like going through my like top 10 conservative hoes or top five That would get views. Are you kidding me? You should definitely do that.      No, I I totally agree with you And that's why like whenever I'm with people I am unable to like make any good content videos or take pictures Because I'm just enjoying the moment and just like living in the moment I totally I've never talked to her. I only follow her but that's that's very interesting I agree with you the second I can tell like if you're a good or bad person someone I like or not Like the second I start talking to you. I could just tell so I I'm with you on that I think it's called a woman's intuition is what they call it. So you have it too Not a woman's intuition. Not that I know of maybe I do who knows maybe you do I don't think so. I don't think so.  I like who I am So did Caitlyn Jenner?  I'm like, that's No one finds this funny. Yeah You know tweets that do well sometimes things just fall flat. It's okay. It's okay. I like my chest I'm sorry I always make small boob jokes on myself. It's like a thing. I don't know That's unfortunate. I'm a boob guy too.   No, they're losers. Anyway, let's let's back up a second Back up a second. Let's back up a second. So we were we were talking earlier about Not only of course feminism and different angles and stuff. I really want to ask you this So you're a different generation than me. You're Gen Z. I'm a millennial. I'm born 1988.  I grew up as a child in the 90s That's like my decade. How do you think feminism influenced you negatively if at all in the 2000s Like did you feel something from that? How do you feel about Gen Z girls and how feminism has affected them?  I've always been privileged. Like I I feel like I've been privileged to be a girl I said that before um I don't know.   They want to like play like Barbies They want to play house and I would say why do I want to play house? Like why are we playing a pretend game?  They're fake It's fake. I don't like why are we playing something that's not really I don't I don't think it'd be the worst mother I think it'd be okay. I think it would be harsh Like seriously like I would be so like I don't like any movies anything. That's fiction. I don't like because it's fake There's enough interesting things that are real in the world Why would I waste my time watching something fake? Don't get it. Do you have any nephews or nieces yet or anything like that? Do you have any brothers? No, no, no. I only have one younger sister. She's 17 Uh, yeah, when you have a nephew or niece someday or your own child, I think you'll soften up a little bit I have I have three nephews now. They're cranking out like clockwork. I got two sisters just pumping them out Wow, that's No, I don't think so. I love my sisters very much Uh, so one of them just had a baby for example, like two weeks ago a little Dylan And uh, it's When you're at least in my case when my sister's had you know became mothers is this really It's a very emotionally impactful moment and you get to see, you know Your own sibling like have a child like that and it really just puts things in perspective similar I guess to having your own child, but I don't know directly yet, but it's pretty amazing experience past couple years Yeah, that that is true. I mean I'm sure this is another hot take I have at like no one like understands Or I'm coming from but I am like don't ever want to see and like no one ever knows if I'm I'm rarely upset about things that you would never know like I would never let anyone know I would if I'm ever pregnant giving birth the only person I want in the room with me is the people delivering I don't want anyone to see me in pain. I don't want anyone to be there I don't want them to feel like they're looking at me. I just want everyone f off You'll see the baby when it's out. Leave me alone.  What does she think about this? Um, she does sometimes so another thing is like I started an animal rescue farm with my mom And I like had to resign from the board and stuff because people would find me like send her Yeah, send her like tweets of mine, you know videos of mine and like try to like, you know These so-called vegans that care about animals.  They're not a lot of rescue animals You know, it's not because they don't really care about the animals like they just care about they want to You know, just trash these people. They won't they won't they won't be happy until we're like dead.  She thinks that you should be able to say whatever you want But I do feel like the one thing I feel bad about like I don't care about getting hate for myself It does not bother me. I just feel bad about affecting like people I like or love, you know I don't want it to affect my mom. She's also like a nurse at a hospital People will like literally tweet the hospital like this is who's working here. This is her daughter Like they just harass her and I feel bad that it affects her My sister's like had me block her on everything because like her friends find me and she doesn't want like moms like We've had like moms come after me and so I feel bad that it affects them So your little sister's a lot different than you know, is from what I'm gathering what you're saying Yeah, she's very different from me. She's um, you know, she's she's very different from me.  I'm a senior in high school I don't know why we're doing this But we had to draw our hero and then intro like Pretend it to the class. So I literally drew donald trump presented it to my class and for my teacher that hates him and my superintendent who's like I'm sure freaking leftist and just say why donald trump's my hero like I was just always trolling people all the time Also, I never put a senior quote in for my yearbook Never did and whoever put the yearbook together put make america great again as my senior quote I didn't put it in So that's how much like people knew I was always very outspoken and crazy Yeah, very hardcore maga in my space in this mandatory community. I'm one of the most politically outspoken I wish a lot more were and I think I'm encouraging meant to do that by leading by example I think you're doing the same for women too and maybe even as a in your schools and stuff when you're younger You're out of college now too, right? Yeah. Yeah, so I don't think that I I don't know anyone that says that's outspoken as you Or at least in the topics of anti-feminism. I like really don't like your tweets are the only ones I'm like, wow Surprising we did that. I like never get that from other people's tweets.   I've seen you tweet a lot about patriarchy. I don't mean tweets pulled up for at the moment We can pull up a few though To all the lovely men out there, please whatever you do never date a feminist feminism is cancer But specifically talk to me about patriarchy. What do you do is a patriarchy and what do you tweet about it? And this things like that So kind of like depends on what the definition of patriarchy is like I feel like the left thinks the patriarchy is you know Male dominated powers of positions of power, you know women are just they know their place say in the kitchen You know the man the man makes the money the woman, you know raises the kids Takes care of the house, you know make sandwiches and stuff and Why like why are we demonizing that? I don't understand why like that's so like demonized like women Like you don't have to work You could just raise your family which is like natural for you like we're biologically designed to want to like Raise our family. That's the most natural thing you can do And you know the feminists like to demonize as if it's not a real job And I think it's probably one of the hardest jobs that you could possibly do so I mean, I think the patriarchy I think Jordan Peterson talks about this a lot It's not necessarily negative all these things that are supposed to have a negative connotation. They're not It's just they demonize these terms and I just love using the terms that they hate and just promoting them I just love it. It's so easy Yes, that's true Women's outbreed the insane left. You're one of the only anti-feminist tricks. I've seen talk about breathing so That's your clap clap on that one Yeah, so and it's funny because like I said, I don't even have a maternal instinct my one maternal instinct That makes me want to have kids and I'm like, I need to pass on these genes Okay, it'd be rude for society for me not to make more of me like we need to outbreed them Seriously, I guess the one good thing about abortion is it, you know, hopefully conservatives and people on the right Tend not to have as many abortions.  It's murder. I don't think these people should be murdered because of their beliefs But, you know, we really do need to be having, you know, at least 15 kids Wow, that's a lot of children. Jesus christ. I only want like half a dozen I think six or seven would be pretty sweet. One of my friends Michael Foster, for example, is seven I technically they had eight, but it's complicated, but seven and I think that'd be more Yeah, it needs as many as possible, which means you like I should start having them now You probably should you're extremely fertile at 22. I know. Well, maybe the kind of sperm don't I'm kidding. It's gross Well, Jesus, we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens Um, talk to me about so you mentioned We're talking about feminism stuff that's came to mind as well Do you view feminism as four? Well, we said it's a supremacist movement, but that aside Do you view feminism as four or against women? Again, it's weird because it's like they claim Many things on the left they claim if they're against exactly what they claim to be fighting for So I really think that feminism hurts women more than all it hurts men too because you know in terms of all these like sexual assault Alligations that come out all the time if I was a man, I'd be scared as hell to hook up with a girl So it does negatively affect them.   I saw that tweet. You're right Right I've been I've been talking about this for years, you know my company and my conventions and stuff and keep speaking up Keep saying speaking the truth Oh, sorry Oh, good We're just where do you have your conventions ever in the northeast? Never no But they've been all around the world. We've taught them in Australia. I started them in Orlando Typically they're in Orlando. We've done Poland. We've done Sweden. We've done England. We've done, Texas You can do Poland, but no northeast Poland's amazing.  I love Poland so much. I have your desire to ever travel anywhere outside the country Where is he? So where have you traveled in America though?  It's funny Yeah, so I just my parents always definitely afraid of planes. I just never went anywhere I have like no desire to go on vacation just to like Chill like I would go somewhere for like an event. I don't understand like I can't just sit there and do nothing all day That just seems like a waste of my time Yeah, interesting very masculine mindset. Yeah, I just I just don't get it. It doesn't make sense to me Anyway, we do them in Orlando. Typically. It's where I founded the company in 2006 That's got a high school of 17 years old. Wow. Hopefully I do them in Orlando. Yeah, it's been 15 years Thanks And there's gonna be three of them coming up here in Orlando. That'll be Yeah Wow So we do one for women one for men and one for fathers and then together we call it 21 summit That's got three conferences inside of it. It's anywhere from like 50 to 100 people per event Sometimes more if we do one at a time We used to do one at a time but then covid fucked everything up last year So I had to combine them into one it actually worked out really good Because then you have like fathers there. They're focused on patriarchy. It's called the 21 convention patriarch condition Rebuild it. I love it. I love it. I love anyone like anyone that goes there I know I just love because you're going if you're taking the time to go there Something that's called that then we're we're we're gonna be homies. That's just how it is Yeah, I'm excited too. This year is the mere 15 year anniversary and I just got uh recently a lot of speakers confirmed But one of the big ones Ian Smith that gym guy. Yeah I like him a lot.  He keeps like posting them on instagram and stuff That's awesome. Yeah, I'll definitely post it too. Not that I have like a huge phone or anything But maybe you should actually so I saw that you should wear this hat on your sensor tv show This will piss a lot of people off this would be really great No, I look terrible in hats for some reason, but I will try it. I will do it. I'll do it I'll do it. I I don't know. I feel like I can't see I look really weird in hats and glasses like any sort of glass sunglasses. I just think it looks so weird, but Do you Hats and glasses make ugly girls look a lot better though. So okay, I did not know this is that it makes sense covering stuff up Yeah, yeah, women are so good at manipulating all that bullshit You know angles and photoshop and filters and apps now Oh, I I know I know I actually because I feel like I look so I can't get myself to look like how I look on camera I feel like I look so weird like right now. I'm looking at myself I look so weird like I just I don't know. I think it looked bad in camera and like photos and videos whatever And like I'm always how do these girls Why are they Here's what's interesting about you is you put use like a lot of guys are bitching you use like all this makeup and stuff But what's interesting about is you go back and forth you swing me these extremes. You have a lot of like a lot of makeup I'm not going to comment on it publicly or whatever, but then you go full like zero makeup and yeah usual Yeah, so this is something like it's very annoying because people I mean not that I really care I mean people are just going to hate but if I post anything with makeup They're like, you don't need all this makeup or I've had a comment being like Oh, you're so different with makeup on like yeah, that's that's the point of makeup. Thank you but like I I Literally never used to wear makeup like when I got out of college I never like I didn't use makeup for like months and then when I started posting stuff I'd be like, okay, maybe I'll put on like mascara and then I was like, okay Well, I guess putting on makeup is not that big of a deal And like you can look a lot better in a video if you wear makeup Obviously, but I also don't care to post absolutely no makeup like I don't care I think I look good without makeup too But obviously I look better with makeup or you know, so I can do both But yeah, people are very obsessed with when I wear makeup. They have to tell me you don't need to wear all that makeup I'm like, I know I chose to like there's videos. I all my old videos are like no makeup This is like a new thing now what I'll do is I'll do makeup a few days And I'll record all my videos those days because like I just want if I'm doing my makeup I want to get the most out of it So I don't know but I don't care to record videos without makeup on either clearly What's interesting is that you this is like so this will sound basic But you have like the courage to just you know wear makeup and then not wear makeup Most girls that would wear the amount of makeup that you do would never post a fucking video without any of it They're terrified of it Right because do whatever you want. This is an interesting Right because there's like a difference, but I'm like, I don't care. I don't I don't know what it is Again, I think it's just going very confident There's nothing that people are going to like comment that are really going to bother me Like I'm just going to keep doing what I what I do and Yeah Let's back up to feminism again So do you think that any republican women should be feminists or is that completely retarded? Yes, I think it's retarded So, yeah, so no, no, I don't think they should be feminist and yes, I think it's retarded. Okay. Good. So Yeah, let's let's argue about something else 19th amendment. I've seen you tweet pretty aggressive against this, which is unusual Um, we're sort of on the same page sort of not so for example I think we're on the same page fundamentally that there are very serious and extreme consequences that are very dangerous Like we feel dangerous to women voting and that these were not considered or taken seriously when women got the right to vote Uh in America and also around the world too And I think that you know, women voting in definitely this kind of thing can be it'll kill nations america can do whatever So I think we're I'm with you on the outcomes of women voting Especially detached from a similar responsibility like getting drafted. I'm against the draft, but until it's done That's kind of the thing Right. Anyway, talk to me about, you know, you're you're vocal very vocal about abolishing the 19th amendment So talk to me about that your position on that and let me kind of argue about it. All right, so Let me just start out with this voting is inherently immoral The fact the idea like democracy is immoral the idea that more mob can come together and vote away your freedom and liberties is immoral So let's put that aside Second, I actually don't think that you know, if we're gonna have voting I do think that every legal citizen should vote. So it's more of a control It's I think with what you were getting at is you agree of the consequences of women voting being bad for america I'm with you But I do think if we're gonna have voting women should be able to vote But I can also say at the same time that the consequences are awful because they're emotional voters They they vote overwhelmingly for democrats and if they weren't voting guess what? We probably would have a lot more of a conservative um direction going to towards the country So if I do think we're gonna voting they should have the right to vote but Not good for us And is that because fundamentally you want to treat americans equally based on where they're born Or something like that I mean, what is the reason that you want to see women have the ability to vote? I mean men and women are different. I think we can agree on that fundamentally different That's my view.  Those are their requirements She's a mano check. What's that mean? That's a new term. I've never seen this is a brand new Uh frankenstein term is interesting mano check. I think it's a positive term. I'm not sure though. Maybe this guy can Oh, I know this I just realized I know this guy. Uh, it's a personal friend of mine. It's just pretty funny.   I think he's just trolling. I think he's just trolling. Yeah, this is a good friend of mine Yeah, good. Good. Good. So do you agree with me then like on my assessment of Yeah, we're on the same page more than I thought You're it's difficult to tell sometimes when you're trolling or not because you walk this line very thin line And with with abolishing the 19th and like maybe she's serious like I'll say that Yeah, so this is something that Even happens in real life people are like, okay, I can't tell if you're doping or not and I love it I love that people can because I never laugh. So like I'm always like just like same character I never really break laughing so I can I would I would have been a great actress because you know I can control my emotions. I can make myself cry thinking about something sad But I can make myself stop like I'm very good at controlling that So people never know whether my tweets or me in person if I'm joking or not, which I I love having that power over people Yeah, I I can tell like I'm hearing you I can tell is it this is interesting Yeah, I think I've seen you laugh on the show. We'll have to go back and look at the recording. See Yeah, it's fake. I've learned to it's uh Oh, it was all fake.  I am nice.  We need to find a way to do that But yeah, I don't want to I think it's done too to to remove the ability of someone to vote based on the way They're born, you know, like you're saying the legal citizen now. It's fun We had a super chatter too The 19th amendment was a joke because it didn't give all women the right to vote woman of color That's a good point. Yeah, this is something where um, a lot of modern day feminists will attack the, you know Feminists of the 1920s for women's suffrage that they were they would say that they Were racist, which I think there is some sort of a sense of that where they care about, you know, the white woman's white right to vote They didn't care about um, women of color or birthing woman persons of color Colors right to vote. So yeah, I agree. I mean again It goes back to like I treat people as an individual if you're an individual who is Oh Yeah, that's it. Sorry.  Anyway, so they belong. That's why it's silent No one should teach them how to drive or read all that garbage. I don't know The only time a woman's mouth should be open Is I won't I won't finish the sentence.  I'm just joking. Like I'm not like really like, you know You know, you have you have so many haters.  I've I've never I've literally never downloaded tiktok I've probably never well.  Which one I have to go look at it.  I don't know you have so many videos too.  I just want to get the most use out of it. So no They know there are amendments of the constitution you want to abolish 16th amendment anything else that you actually mean to You're not even joking around any other any other hardcore political positions like abolishing an amendment that these guys should know about watching I know that not that comes to mind I mean, I think the founders really did have They really did create the most, you know, beautifully perfect as perfect as you could possibly be like written document that Can be applied the principles eternally. Obviously the left applies them completely wrong, you know the The progressive supreme court justices or even just judges around the country that will say it's a living breathing constitution Which basically means we can make it mean whatever we want it to mean right now, which is so stupid um Do my only criticism of the constitution is that you know, I love it if it was followed But no, I don't think there's any other amendments that I would is there any I don't like know them all off the top of my head though So I have to Yeah, that's okay. Yeah, I would definitely abolish the 16th amendment. That's the uh attack income tax.  So yes, I There's a couple more. I think it's the I think it's the 20th amendment.  But basically it's what it changed the way we elect senators Yeah, used to be like, um, you know You would vote for people that would end up voting for the senator and not that everyone just votes for the senator So yeah, I agree with you. So it's more of um I don't I don't really know if it's really the electoral college But it's more it's not really based on like a democratic approach It's an amendment is what is the constitution that changed it. It was about 1900 or something like that Don't call me on the date, but right. It's it's it's kind of recent in terms of the history of america But yeah, no, I totally agree the consequences of that have been the whole purpose of the senate Was to protect the minorities. It's different versus, you know, the house of representatives Which is based on proportion proportion or no popularity and the senate is based on proportion So they kind of like messed it all up Yeah Do you want to allow abortion? Would you do that given the ability to do you hope the supreme court rules in on that? Just knocks it out completely Yeah Because so this is my amount of full anarchist because I think the the you know, the primary role of government is to protect life And you know, you don't life supersedes liberty You don't have the liberty to just go murder someone and if we agree that it's murder because it is it's a life It's so you're murdering a life. They can't fight back Then that's like one of the most basic things that should be outlawed now the consequences That's like a whole different topic because there's people, you know People say oh, like we don't want to lock up the mothers. We want to lock up the doctors But I mean realistically if we're agreeing that it's murder The mother murdered like just she hired the hitman So like if you're being logically consistent if like what so I don't know what the con that's the hard thing I don't know what I would prefer like that were want the consequences to be do you have an answer for that? That's something I struggle with or do you even think it should be outlawed start there Yeah, yeah, I appreciate the the courtesy of the respect. Yeah, I think I love I think abortion should be outlawed I don't think but well, let me say this. I don't think it's a federal issue The supreme court should have never weighed on on the first place I think this is actually trump's position to position two for a long time If I'm not mistaken, we can look that up But yeah, I don't think the federal government has no business dealing with it unless them tillers the constitutional amendment Uh, 10th amendment, for example pushes all these things explicitly to the states So it should be a state's rights type of issue for each state to determine Now there could be a constitutional amendment for it that gets made but those are hard to get passed Right what I like to see that Potentially the issue with federalizing things is once you bump it to the federal government like people want to for example I love guns But people always want to like they want to like federalize you know constitutional carry nationwide with the federal government And to me that's dangerous because if 10 years go by and you get a super hardcore again You know democrat left-wing thing they could then pull that then the states are fucked because you've already uh You've punted it to the federal government. So it's dangerous. It's dancing with the devil basically I totally agree with you so something I always do and this like kind of Stems from like my whole like moral political philosophy is I always you know I treat people how I want to be treated I always try to put myself in the other person's shoes like if I have a friend that's complaining about a situation I'll put myself in the shoes of like the person they're complaining about And not just like take their side or whatever to be like devil's advocate or whatever I will truly tell like if my friends are wrong in a situation I'll tell them like I'm not I'm loyal to people But if they're wrong, I'll be like you're wrong and I'm not just gonna like you You know take your side because we're friends. I don't care about that. I'm principal whatever So I take the same approach to where you have to always picture the worst case scenario if the other side's going to do it to you So, okay, I would love to federally outlaw abortion because you know You shouldn't be able to we should not be legalizing murder But the second you grant that power to the government just imagine it's the worst person that can also now take that power So that's so I always say to and I truly believe this that most people Would be fine having a dictator as long as it's their preferred dictator So they'd be fine with the dictator as long as you know pushing out policies that they want But you always have to remember the second that you grant your government or someone that power Just picture the worst possible person taking that power and now being able to do whatever they wanted Do you want that? No So that's why you should want federalism and leaving leaving all these decisions to the states because it makes it a lot harder To have such a broad impact on everyone and you can you can more easily move to a different state That you agree with versus a different country, which we're probably still the best country in terms of freedoms and stuff Yep, especially in florida.  I'm amazed how good the sand is.  I love it down here Yeah, it really represents florida ronda sand is a florida man to the bone Like that is like peak florida man And I agree in a positive way. Yeah, he definitely embodies the florida man persona. So He's been very impressive. Yep. Yeah, he's been uh, I love him so much Um, thank you Let's uh, let's argue a little bit more about iron rand. So we're talking about iron rand earlier and you mentioned I've seen you tweet about it and you mentioned here on the show too We're talking about movies and art and people pretending, you know, everyone wants to spend your time on that So I think you should actually look into if you haven't iron rand's views on art It would actually I think uh, it would challenge what you currently believe a lot For example, she was a famous quote. She said that art is fuel for man's soul And obviously she was a fiction writer, which is art out of the shrug is art Uh, you know, it's has a lot of philosophic takes in it. They're very important iron rand The only exceptions I made I found head and Alice shrugged. Yeah, I promise you though There's more out there. She was a she loved art She considered herself both a novelist and a philosopher equally and she was adamant about that because people always want a pigeon-holer one way or the other Yeah On this show I titled it liberty extremists and anti-feminist to me those seem to be both very important to him That's why I titled it that way and people might want to box you in eventually to one of the other But if they're both important to you you should keep both of them and your limelight You know, they both are like as equally. I mean, maybe I would say the liberty thing is more like More important to me out of everything, but I do talk about feminism a lot and it's very important to me So yeah, I definitely will read up on that because you know, I have taken some Different approach towards our I used to I mean, I would never go to like an art gallery Whatever But I have seen because I like that's why the whole paleo thing I love like the traditional art like the you know, roman art You know, you know traditional type things like I love that and whenever I see like art pieces like that on twitter I'll like retweet it because I'm like, oh, that's so beautiful And it just shows how like disgusting like everything in you know, the modern society has become So I have the grown to appreciate it kind of in rejection of the modern takeover of you know Buildings and architecture and art.  No, I totally agree with you Yeah, and there's more too the fountainhead. There's a movie for example. You should watch it. Uh, my dad is like that.  She loved it So, yeah, Michael mouse is a huge rand fan. He has all of her books and he has her like original copy of the fountainhead He's like a collector of all of her stuff.  So you should definitely look up He's he's great. He's very funny. He's he's also a troll, but he's like a walking encyclopedia He was born in like the soviet union russia Damn I'm actually looking at an original copy of the fountainhead in front of me right not to I have one too Oh, wow. He was like one of like there's how many of them that like there's like 10 or something I don't know not not that early. It's the first edition like the first year came out Oh first 10 jesus. Okay. Well, he has like one of the first 10 like he's like crazy.  I don't care same I don't care again. I don't care that much either. I would never like I wouldn't even need like an autograph I'm like it's a signature Yeah, so let's start closing out. Yeah, it's interesting. Let's start closing out here So what are the plans you have for your life coming up? You're 22. You've been I obviously working with project veritas I'm just seeing that, you know, I see you're working with pre-view, you know, turn what you think of that video Oh, yeah, that's pretty hardcore. I love James. Okay. He's cool. He's uh, he's Right now. Yeah, what was that? He's he's peek off a male.    Um, I don't know so that video though that that video really pushed I was laughing mass off when I saw it. So it really Yeah, it's good.  It's it's good. It's just like damn this pushed it like so far so hard He wasn't doing what he's doing now He would be like in theater like he was like made for that He like loves that stuff like loves like the dancing and Princeton like that sort of thing. So not what I like. I was like the first Prince song I've ever heard so Not not my thing, but obviously I would love like working with James and Project Veritas. They're doing the hard work Like they're actually making a difference. So I love what they're doing Yep Yeah, I want to uh, I invited James of the day. I met some of the Project Veritas guys at CPAC I don't want James to speak at my men's convention to the men not even about Well sort of a project Veritas, but the story and what he's done to do that. I think he's very heroic You know, I'm really great. He's he's awesome. Like I really so you your friends with him Uh, no, I haven't met him or anything now.  I missed I felt bad.    Like what would I say? That's up to you now. You have to speak to the woman. You can't speak to the men. You can only speak to the women I know Explaining no woman's playing in our conventions.  I wouldn't let them just kick them out But it's a lot of women who are very anti-feminists I mean fundamentally like make women great again is positive for women's positive femininity Then it's anti-feminism to the bone And I want to abolish feminism. That's like one of my goals in life over the next 30 years That's a great goal. Thanks the women there though. They they're very much They wouldn't be there. They have to fly most of them don't even live in florida They fly in from around the world and the country and stuff So and the same for the men's events. So it's it's like-minded people that are really like buck feminism They're so happy that they are willing to fly to go to this convention Yes, exactly travel like, you know, you want to see that there's a big deal for you Yeah, I know I know that's what I'm saying. I'm like, oh it's such a trip to go to florida Yeah, for me, it's like 20 minutes. So it's pretty easy. Yeah, must be nice privilege Yep, and I go to the beach 45 minutes.  One of my friends actually lives at the beach is watching the show right now, tony bruno Oh, really? I mean the beach is okay.   You're so orange.  That's exactly what I'm going for. Thank you. I'd rather be orange than pale Yeah, I'm not really orange. It's a filter Are you like Italian or something or what are you? Yes, I'm allegedly from what my parents tell me I don't want to be a liar like Elizabeth Warren I want to take a DNA test because I feel like what if I'm lying like what if I'm gonna get Elizabeth Warren, but so I'm Allegedly 50% Italian 25% British people think I'm Irish because of Riley. It's British and this is like the wild card I'm 25% Egyptian. That's the wild card.  Okay, I'm literally an african-american. I'm african african-american. Yes, I'm african. I'm literally black Yep, congratulations. Yeah, I know you climb in the victim hierarchy ranks like hardcore here.   It's been a great interview Um, any Yeah, uh, so people should follow you for example, where should they follow you? You're on uh, twitter here, obviously isabella reilly Let me pull this up. Yeah, it's isabella reilly us and then on instagram and tiktok It's isabella reilly us a the it's too long for twitter and I can't get one streamline You know username across all platforms drives me crazy, but that's where you can find me I'm probably the most active on twitter. So it's definitely the most active on twitter me correct And then you're giant, uh, you're driving tiktok. Yeah, you so you have one band too. You're still at 131k here It's pretty cool. Yeah, I mean tiktok's okay.  It's fun tiktok's fun, but it's super random cool Yeah, anything else you'd like people to know or where to find you you're on youtube. What's the username for youtube? I don't even know my username on youtube is like I isabella reilly I don't even know like I just posted two tiktoks on there a while ago But I do have a new show on sensor dot tv with gavin We have the pilot episode out right now It's like 52 minutes of us arguing Which is how it will be pretty much because he's more of a populist conservative I'm uh, you know libertarian. So we we agree on most things like we want the same things But we have also many disagreements about government intervention and stuff. So Yeah, definitely watch that you can also watch like our appearance on gavin mcginnis's show His that show is like called compound censored and it's you can see me uncomfortably try to rate myself. So Yes, we'll make the comments. Those are great comments to the comments roast me.  Like trump does. That's good. I love it. It's a it's a you know, guilty pleasure of mine Yeah, I want to wrap up everybody else watching. I appreciate all the comments and the chats super chats all those things Follow me on twitter. I have beach muscles and instagram beach muscle 65 I don't like instagram, but I do post some stuff and of course subscribe to the channel. Appreciate you guys tuning in Isabella, you can stand the line. I'm gonna like end the stream now Guys and tune in tomorrow for red man group actually talking about art with arthur kwan li a conservative artist trump guy Up in new york. Looking forward to it. Isabella. Thanks a lot. I appreciate your time. Thanks for having me on