This is the Build OGM call for Tuesday, November 30th, 2021. Hey, Stacy. Hello. Are you driving or out and about? Not yet. Not yet. I'm walking the dog right now. I'll be in the car in a few minutes. Thanks. Excellent. Now you're in the category of OGMers who are walking the dog. Which is a thing. It's a category. Excellent. Um, and so, uh, so Stacy, I just told Pete that I haven't written yet a note, a lot sort of canvassing for a virtual assistant of some sort. So I do that. And also, and Mr. Kranza. And Pete has just started to hack MD for our note taking. And there's Mark. No mark. Yes, Mark. There. Excellent. Excellent. Mark. Has the vessel control of his machine back from the software. Amons. Was that string orientation? Yes. Nice. Nice. Morning. Morning. How goes it for you. Um, turn 59 yesterday. Happy birthday. That's right. I'm turning to 62.  Yeah, how'd that happen? That's my basic baseline reaction. Just like seriously, how'd that happen? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, good. I've had some back surgery last week. I'm kind of recovering from that and here to listen and just barely woke up.  Thanks for joining me. And then Pete, you and I I think need to catch up on crowd and items about how things fit. And we've got a call later today to do some of that sex. So that should be fine. And then I've been paying attention to picture his brain for the last, basically over the long weekend, because I really got to figure out a normal steady stream of income, etc, etc. And so I've got lots of moving parts up and I haven't rewritten like the homepage of pictures brain. But that's where my attention has been. It's been on like how do I and have you heard of a language market fit? So I will find the article. But product market fit is a common phrase sort of in startup community. But there's a there was a nice article from first round, I think. There it is. There was a nice article from first round where it talks about finding language market fit, which is like what language does your market speak and how do you connect with them? And parts of the article were sort of way more elaborate than things that I think I'm going to do about, you know, market testing in large mass market ways, but parts the article really good about about finding that language. And so I'm trying to figure out how not to speak about me, but how to speak about the needs I can fulfill as picture his brain. So that's kind of where my head is for the top top of the page. And so maybe the thing to do is to collectively draft a virtual assistant note. I think that would probably that would certainly help me move forward on stuff. I can be okay. I can do would work. And I'm just getting caught up. And then through the budget from the rep foundation grant that my Mac should be on its way. I got a note that it's on its way into customs from in Shenzhen or somewhere. And then the payment hasn't actually processed properly. So somehow the Mac is in motion toward me, but the money hasn't been deducted from my account. And I spent a bunch of time yesterday with my bank going, what's the deal here? And Apple doesn't seem to know. And they want to just send me a machine. I'm okay. But anyway, so can't wait for that because my fan just kicked on and things are already slowing down. So it's glorious. I'm not looking forward to is how many things probably aren't going to be native.  Text expander that your text expander has not been rewritten from one. And I'm pretty reliant on that. Okay. So shall I screen share or show you? Either way. Why don't I in that way? There we go. Volunteers needed dangerous mission survival, not guaranteed. So this is actually for weaving the world. It's this is for this is for the world. Yeah, this has nothing to do with pictures brain. This is entirely weaving the world. And it's a friendly note to people I know to find out who's got and who could recommend a virtual assistant service or person. Right? Capitalization. So how did people, I guess there weren't that many people reading them, but there were no spaces or periods like early on everything was just run on and there were no upper and lower case. There was none of that.   And then they started to try to do like spaces and pauses for like the breathing breaks. I kind of think it was it was more like stenography. And like we have a, you know, written culture for 2000 years or whatever. But 2000, 3000 years ago, I think probably it was still mostly voice. And the written stuff was crib notes for, you know, remembering what you remembered. This reminds me in a bizarre way of another pattern I think I've recently observed. Wendy Elford and I have been talking about dows among other things. And there's an interesting thing where dows are actually two parts. There's the people who set up the rules of the game.  So a lot of the attention around dows is watching and thinking about the players playing the game. After the machinko machine is already set up, right?  That's people look at the operation of it. And if you think about it for more than about two seconds, it's actually more important how you set up the game so much the way the game gets played. Even though the way the game gets played is interesting, you know, how do you build a coalition? How do you delegate your votes? How do you, you know, all that kind of stuff. It's still interesting. But it's, all of that is on the foundation of in the ground of how the dow is set up, right? So thinking about that and thinking why we pay attention to the operation of the dow rather than the creation, the construction of the dow. I think my, I have a new hypothesis. My hypothesis is that we are so used to the way organizations work. Autonomous organizations, which we call corporations now, especially big ones. And we're used to them being opaque. So, you know, so we have these massive autonomous organizations in our lives called Google and Facebook and Apple and, you know, GM and whatever.  So we talk about the operation of the autonomous organization. We don't talk about the way the organization is built because for a hundred years or so, corporations are behind a veil where they get to do and construct themselves however they want within, you know, some bounds. And so we just think of organization. Hey, there's an organization. What's it doing? What's it thinking?  Right? And, and in a dow, you really want to think of it the opposite way. How have we set up the dow? How will we set up a dow? How will we set up a dow better than other dows, right? We have, you know, here's a dow. We've just given you the clay to create an organization that isn't a copy of Apple and isn't a copy of Facebook. Do that, right? And everybody's like, yeah, I don't know how to do that. It's too hard, but I'm really interested in the way the chink of balls fall. So that's my hypothesis about dows. And I think, so I have a prediction that as we keep setting up dows, we're actually going to continue to replicate for probably years, maybe a decade, we're going to continue to replicate centralized organizations. We're going to go, okay, we need a new organization and it's going to be decentralized this time. And it's going to end up having a hierarchy and having the centralization that Apple does or Facebook does or whatever, right? Just because we don't have the linguistics to be able to describe something different and imagine something different and to create something different. So I love that, love that line. And let me just stop sharing for a second so we can see each other. Partly it seems like corporations have like default settings.  And then every now and then a corporation innovates a whole bunch on that. It makes Wall Street angry, which is only when we hear about it. So it's like, Zuckerberg still has controlling interest because he has his own category of shares of Facebook that cannot vote everybody kind of thing, right? And he just made that a part of the death pact of investing in Facebook. And that was unusual. And Google, when it launched, was unusual in some of their documents and how they organized themselves. So it was like, oh, there's exceptions to the default settings, right? But we've gotten so used to the default settings. And the default settings create like a rapacious corporation, which is like the critique in the air or the spin in the air for since the 60s at least, if not well before, and yet now it's seeming maybe getting a little bit of lift. But we don't change those default settings, even though we all know that like these default settings kind of suck, right? And then and now somebody saying, hey, there's a new way to create organizations to coordinate activity, to invest together and route the funds. And I'm a little surprised that we don't have the equivalent of sourdough starter library or DNA collections for like, here's the best of Dow structure that I've seen. And just like, let's go mix and match and put it on GitHub. And like, oh, somebody just had a really clever idea. And we were swapping out this piece of DNA of how Dow's work. And this is this is proving to work better in lots and lots of communities. And but only if you've done this work beforehand together, to get to that point of trust or whatever, right. And so description of the dance and all of that. And maybe this is happening in a time in a couple of times. It's happening really well, actually. Oh, okay. So I'm missing that. So, so then I have another hypothesis. Wendy's, Wendy's happens to have a focus on Dow's for a couple of weeks. And and kind of immediately she went to the, you know, the, the human parts of, of how we might coordinate and work together, right, the community aspects of it and the psychological aspects of it and taking care of each other and things like that. And I said, yeah, I'll tell you what, Wendy, could you pull up? Mezal's hierarchy for me. And let's talk about where we are, right.  This is not going to go well. I said, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. Mezal's hierarchy is not the, is not perfect, but it's still kind of a useful tool. Here's where we, yeah, overused. So where are we in the, I had a great friend, Tiffany Von Emel, who, who taught me a lot about Mezal's breaks, which is, which is even more exciting than, Mezal's breaks is even more exciting than Mezal's hierarchy. Good point. Tools, tools are, are really stupid, unless they're in the hands of an expert and, you know, using the tool and you go, okay, well, I wouldn't have expected that from that tool. Otherwise, otherwise you get this. Yeah. So, so I said, I'll tell you what my hypothesis again is that we're at the physiological level and the safety security level, the bottom two levels, right. We've kind of been able to get our heads around the, the bits and bobs that, that create non-fungibility and, you know, and student, student anonymity, wallet addresses and things like that. That's kind of the physiological layer. There's, there's bits and bobs that, that create the frameworks that we want to build on. And then there's the safety security thing, which is next.  We're barely able to, like, get the systems working at their minimum level. Like you can kind of, you know, wake up in the morning and go check your crypto and go, yeah, it's still there. You know, thank God. Because it's, it's not a, you know, it's not a done deal. You know, I have a little bit of crypto and every morning I wake up and thank God it's still there. It hasn't been wiped out by a bug. So the, the levels above that, where we start talking about how do people work together? How do, you know, how do we create love and safety and friendship and things like that, right? That's all you can see from where we are. You can see that and you can imagine communities swapping best practices back and forth. The best practices right now are around how not to get yourself killed, basically. So it's kind of like we're in the wild west phase of I don't have to become lunch. Yeah. So, so rather than Maslow's may I suggest like the rising of life forms out of the primordial goo and that we're still kind of in the phase where cell walls burst and the salinity suddenly changes dramatically and like, oops, we're all dead. And stuff like that. And when we're starting to come into the place where there are simple cellular life forms and they're replicating so they're able to move around and kind of do stuff. So we've got a little bit of like kinky sexual reproduction going on in, in the primordial goo, but we don't have complex structures and we don't know how to, you know, exactly don't know where it's going. So and I'd be very comfortable with the primordial goo because the work. So there is a lot of recombination and, you know, innovation and, and copying of innovation or more improvement of innovation. But it's really, you know, cell walls and things like that. It's and replication. But that conversation seems to be happening like still like in the closet someplace between a few geeks, like, like, I wish that conversation were part of how do we make civilization better and we're being held in public salons. So that like, like that room over there, they're turning our words over here into some code to test and then bring back to us. But we're going to sit here and talk through what are good ways to organize, you know, people to do. Totally agree. And Wendy, Wendy will be giving a talk about Dallas. And that's where she's going to go, you know. Hey, look over here. There's stuff going on. And it's probably going to change the world. And I don't know, maybe you want to be involved. It's, it's not hard to get involved. It's, it's super easy to wait in. Rob O'Keefe actually in one of the OGM channels on Black Cheney. It's on an OGM channel, but it's the Mattermost channel. He said, so it looks like it's me and me and Charles and Pete who are interested in any of this crypto stuff. Am I weird, you know, is this, why does nobody care? Am I an outlier? You know, what's, what's going on? So it's easy to wait in.  Yeah. But it's funny because the internet's got a bunch of really sophisticated things that run, that run the thing, right, that make the tubes run. And yet there we go. The internet's got a bunch of crazy sophisticated things that make everything sort of work, but I could kind of talk you through roughly how things like, like happen, like what it gets to routing tables and all that. Like I probably get lost. If you teleport yourself back to 1992, you know, it was, it was the Wild West, right? But the algorithms were simpler then and a lot of the ways that these devices connected were, you know, were working okay. They weren't actually simpler. Really? No, because I find, I find very rapidly somebody will say, okay, this works this way and then let's assume that over here and then they'll layer five things on top of it and it was like, but doesn't that violate some of the fundamental assumptions of the underlying layers? And nobody answers that. And like I find very quickly, I'm leveraged into a place where really, I'm not sure what's happened. Crypto, crypto, crypto. In 1992, that was the same thing, right? It's like, I wasn't feeling that whatsoever in 1992. Like at all, I was like, oh good, this is a better protocol. And here's how it layers up. I think you, so then you had more experience or more. And I'm not a geek. I could explain to you what and how and why and how, how progress was going to happen. Well, so like the difference between you, CP mail and internet mail, right? It's like, okay, I need to mail somebody at university and Stockholm or something like that. Today, am I going to try to use this new internet mail with that in the middle? Or is it a bank path, you know, and where's the bank path and stuff like that, right? To learn what a bank path is, yeah, to learn what a bank path is, is not trivial, you know, it's like, it gets a little arcane under the hood, but I could say, hey, there's this kind of competition brewing between at signs and bank marks as part of like how we address emails. Same exact thing with crypto. It's way, way more opaque to me than that. Like, like, like orders of magnitude more opaque than that. Because, because what's happening feels, feels to me complex enough that it's opaque, that it's suspicious.   There's this, still that layer of complexity underneath that you could involve yourself with and go crazy about, right? And at some point, you go, I don't know why this internet mail stuff works, because, you know, we topped up stuff and there's duplicated packets and lost packets and, you know, that it's the same kind of stuff over in crypto, you know, you can explain to you about that. You can write above that and go, okay, there's proof of stake and proof of work, you know, and you don't have to really understand all of the bits and bobs about, you know, hash calculations and stuff like that for proof of work. You can kind of take a top-level view and go, okay, we want to switch over to proof of stake, you know, and it's the same kind of abstraction of layers and things like that. The, the, the basic, maybe I'm a geek. But the basic, I'm not sure that maybe it was necessary there, but still. The, the basic, you know, operation of DAOs or NFTs or things like that, it's not really more complicated than email or Usenet or, you know, whatever. Same, same kind of, you know, and it's got the same kind of depth. All the depth that's under crypto was maybe not all of it, but a lot of it was, you know, routing tables and, you know, BGP protocols and all that kind of stuff. Okay. But there's a party happening somewhere where these things are being fruitfully improved in community. And not enough non-geeks participate. I think even the most of many of the crypto people feel like that too. So when these call is for more non-geeks to join that party? It's a talk at a conference as far as I understand it. That's, so she came in, you know, now that, now that I brought in primordial stages of evolution or massless hierarchy, she came in at kind of the top, right? It's like, okay, well, we've had autonomous organizations for probably, you know, a couple of thousand years right now. We know actually autonomous organizations pretty well, and we know how you would do them to make monopolies or, you know, all the other kinds of weird things that autonomous organizations do. And it's like, well, of course, you would kind of make them human scale and have, you know, care for the community and things like that. So, so my assertion to her is that that's not where we are. But meeting in the middle, she and I, it's like, well, but that's where we should go, right? I'm like, yeah, sure, you know, and a lot of people think that in crypto, you know, a lot of people are going, it's a trillion dollars sloshing around in, you know, crypto stuff. And it's going to matter at some point. And to me, to me, current cryptocurrency efforts are mostly like selfish genes. They're basically entirely out for themselves trying to build something up. And philosophically, this raises the question of, what if quantum computing, what if, what if qubits could be holistic in some sense and represent whether the world is better or worse off by the transaction at hand? And wouldn't that be interesting? So a couple of levels of the tech stock, but the same use case, people are designing tokens right now that have different social characteristics. So, you know, people work on that in crypto right now. And the people who are doing it are specialists rather than, you know, human factors people, we need more human factors people, more people who are going to be affected by crypto in 20 years, participating in the early designing and things like that. But it sounds like we need more guions or more holistic thinkers or something like that in the mix because, because most everybody I see doing this kind of stuff is like a stoic libertarian objectivist, like looking to maximize local profit. There's a lot of different people and there are a lot of guidance. I think one of the things that I can say is true is that there's an immediate, like sour taste, like bitter taste, let's drop that out of our mouth and not try to keep chewing because of Silk Road, because of people who tried to make billions of dollars because of, you know, lots of stuff and stuff like that. As I've said in another call with you and a bunch of other people, there's a pony in there. It's not all hype. Yes, there is a trillion dollars flushing around doing crazy stuff and a trillion dollars makes people crazy. That the tech, the underlying technology is useful and it's currently being used in valuable and interesting ways and it's going to continue to grow and take over more of our lives.  If I go out in the middle of daylight in this dusty old town, I'm going to get shot. So to me in the march of human progress and civilization, the monetization of everything and the commodification of everything, we're not really good steps. Like these did not improve civilization, even though they made it more efficient and more whatever. And what this feels like is like, oh great, now we're moving into an era where you will know the location and meta identity and everything behind every object and you'll have to acquire every object, everything. That's the bitter taste, right? Well, it's not just bitter taste, it could be a poisoned pill. It could be that we're turning the whole world into a fugu. Yeah, no. It's a different way to look at it at the same technology is like, oh my god, now we can have multi-valued tokens. Now we can actually value people, planet and profit at the same time. So the technology that we're talking about is a potential savior. It's a potential path out of the mess that we've done with mono-valued money. So as Vitalik Buterin, one of the people who's talking about Gaia and multi-valued currencies and this lovely path out. I don't know. I don't follow Vitalik, right? I'm just saying there's like a couple of really loud voices that all sound to me like the same voice, which is the opposite of that. It's the bitter thing, right? It's like, you know, I have no offense to Mr. Buterin. But from afar, what I see him doing is scrambling like the Dickens to make sure the little timber house that he's built on the parry doesn't fall over. It's in danger of falling over all the time, right? So I think he's totally absorbed in just making sure that Ethereum can do lots of transactions and it's going to swap over to Ethereum too and be proof of stake rather than proof of work. I think he's completely focused on that and doesn't have any mind space for anything else.  Marcus, Stacy, any thoughts on this? I don't have the right language, but if you remember, Jerry, I had sent you those seeds and I couldn't get to go through. But I know that, I know that you're friends with Yokem and I think he could explain more about what's going on there. But I think there are some really good people because I was there like when they were first starting up a couple of years ago and I watched the human part of it. And even though I didn't understand the rest of it, I know that I like what's there and I know that some other people that I follow like Anna-Louis Smithson is very involved there. And that's a signal to me right there. So I would recommend you look and check what's going on there. Thank you. And this is Joachim Stroh, right? I'm pretty sure he's aware, you know, I don't know how, I don't know how involved he is now, but I know a while back he had his finger in there. The originator, his name is is Raikey Gordon. Raikey Gordon, yeah, I've got, I'm going to screen share so we can see who, what, where. So here's seeds, a regenerative financial system, Raikey Gordon, a currency with a conscience comes out of Haifa DHO, Distributed Human Organization. I've already got them under potential OGM architecture components and under regenerative agriculture and a couple videos. I haven't watched all these videos, so I don't exactly know or remember all of the moving parts, but that's, I'll connect this to today's call. Well, there are a lot of videos where they filmed how they created the Constitution. So, okay, good. I'm glad they're on your, yeah, thank you, in your brain. They're in the map. They have the approval, that's the best you'd say. Well, I mean, I'm trying to figure out where these conversations are having and who's having the conscious conversation. And my fear is that there's only a few people in dark corners having the fruitful conversations and they will be swamped and just forgotten in history as happens. Like, like at these stages, people who are trying to say things that are good for the whole don't often survive the winnowing process of what becomes the set of guidelines for the next tranche of progress. And I think Pete made a good point when he was talking about, like, not having the language for something. It's also like, you just get caught up, like, you don't even, like I catch myself thinking in the old ways when I think that, oh, that's not me, I'm thinking a whole different thing. But it's just we're programmed, we're so used to a certain way of thinking that we really need to take a step back and get a fresh pair of eyes. Agreed. Mark, any thoughts? I completely agree, Stacey. Certainly, my experience with getting sick was a heck of a lot of got to get back to work, work, work, got to get back on the treadmill. When can I do that? That's a tough nut to crack. And what? I made a comment the other day, and I appreciated Laura and, forget your last name. Edwards. Edwards. Comment. But basically, I've, you know, encountered communities and, you know, they have different tones and different feels and, you know, there are people who have large organizations who are doing really interesting things that I just react to, like, ooh, I don't fit here. And shall I continue with that organization because of means and ends? Or should I aesthetically say, you know, I want to place a belong? And that's a tough question in the wild west. You know, Pete, Jerry, and Stacey feel safe, right? And they don't try to sell me. They don't try and manipulate me. They don't try to, and, you know, this the sales and marketing and branding kind of way that the internet has evolved into feels creepy. And I'm not, you know, I haven't put the time into investigating dows. I just kind of said, aha, here's a chunk of decentralized organization. And when somebody works it out, I'll put a toe in and see if I can take a look at it. But I've kind of ignored it. And ignored it with a purpose. You know, basically read more stuff. And think about some of the stuff that is more semiotic and basically, how do we create meaning and make sense together rather than how do we coordinate our actions in a way that we're not stepping on each other's toes? We have a sense of fairness and that fairness is trusted. And there's somehow some currency or money or or value that is different from the kind of value that is meaning in life. But it's actually putting food on the table. And putting food on the table is incredibly important. It's just not something I'm great at. Hey, I can empathize. And I always refer to it as putting food on your family just in honor of W and his malapropisms. Thanks, Mark. Yeah. And from my own take relative to what you were just saying, I can see an easy path to creating or instantiating a DAO for OGM and working our way through some of these things together as an experiment. But partly because I think we have a community that's pretty high trust. We haven't been forged through fire very much. So, you know, that tends to make communities different. But I think we have a, you know, there's a lot of possibility and potential here, which is kind of why I'm trying to figure out where is the, where is the fruitful civilization level conversation happening to share DAO building instructions back to what Pete started with, because the initial conditions of this drive everything. And in this case, it's code and a series of smart contracts and, you know, and ways of determining play. And most DAOs do not appear to be Calvin ball at this point where these things are easily changed anywhere you feel like it later down the road. I think it feels like most of them you're kind of pouring concrete foundations pretty early with rebar that are going to be hard to move around. April and I were just reminiscing about being in Vienna for a trip two years ago. And seeing the flak towers.  And these things are monster, like monstrous facilities, poured of concrete and rebar and whatnot. And they would put any aircraft weapons up on top. And you might, you might be lucky and drop a bomb on it and wipe out the people on it one time, but the tower wasn't going to crumble. So, you know, and these things are still standing and unlikely ever to be taken down. And it feels to me sometimes like some of the tech artifacts that we're building are like that they're hard to hard to unwind, although much less difficult to unwind than poured concrete in the middle of the city. You're muted. Thank you. I have a heck of a lot of disagreements with Jaron Lanier. Yeah, me too. However, however, however, dude is smart. Dude has a dude also. Yeah. One of his earlier books, he talks about, you know, the kind of lock-in that we have with word processors. You know, boy, word star, boy, that was like everything. And then it became word perfect. And then Microsoft Word. And now it's like Google Docs. And that's not exactly a flak tower, but still somehow there's a lot. Microsoft Word is totally a flak tower. Microsoft Office kind of. You get a theoretician talking about WYSIWYG and Microsoft Word. And it's like, okay, that's where we went wrong. And they know the name of the guy who invented Microsoft Word. And it's like... Wow. I think I've had this discussion with not Bob Franksman, but... Who else has it been? The spreadsheet guy. Yeah. Bricklin. Dan Bricklin didn't invent the spreadsheet to do calculations. It was actually a layout machine. But then he's like, okay, so then we got Microsoft Word. Everybody thinks they're a layout person. And it's all terrible. And it's none of it is semantic. So here's Charlie Strauss writing on SA, why Microsoft Word must die. I don't know if that's what you were thinking about, but... Well, if I were you, I would like it to flak tower. To where? Flak towers. Well, I already, I know I, look, I already did that. Thank God. Okay. My life is complete. So wait, you're saying, you're saying I would link Microsoft Word to flak towers? Yes. Yes. That's only a metaphor that's going to work in this conversation. Although here... It's a powerful metaphor. I love it. Hold on. Hold on. Let me just do this. So now, now I can create it. So this has happened in our conversation, so it gives context from our conversation. I'm waiting for the down beach ball to go away. And now I can connect this up to flak towers. And Microsoft Word. And that didn't work. Come on, baby. There we go. Okay, and I'll stop the screen sharing for a second. So, yeah. And my fear is that new paradigms, when they get popular and kind of eat the world, eat the world for a long time. Like, we end up in those things for 10 years to 100 years. And so, we're in one of these punctuated equilibrium moments right this minute. Like, we're living and breathing through one of the moments of chaos between regimes. And a lot, and this is why I have one of the two new stacks question in my head, which is a whole bunch of different assumptions about how society works, how we vote, how we cooperate, how we fund benefits for humans, how we assemble companies into things, how value gets measured, how value gets moved around and rewarded. All of them things are up for renegotiation right now. And there's some really clever solutions out there.  And we're like, no, no, no. Where's like the actual pony? Where's the sparkle pony? And how do we like make sure that the future regime is mostly sparkle pine? Right. But my fear right now is that the regime is going to be platypus.  You don't want to get close to. Jerry, there's an underlying assumption in that transition between order, having chaos in the middle. I'm I have a suspicion. It's certainly not a grounded. We love that kind of thing. Go for it. Notion that as we have accelerated the way that humans are able to connect with each other, there's no order that we're actually headed towards. It's all it's chaos all the way down. In the future, you know, I'm not exactly sure about that, but it seems as if, you know, the J curve, the hockey stick phenomena that there are so many interacting parts to culture, to economics, to technology and the speed that I'm not sure that there is a emergent order that I can point to. Maybe that's because we're in the chaos. I can certainly you know, agree that, you know, that's where we have where we are in the process of emergence, but I'm not I'm not exactly sure that there is an order on the other side in the way that civilization used to work or used to be thought of, certainly in the enlightenment and in any post-enlightenment regime that I that I really know of. So I don't know Pete. I don't know if you'll agree with this, but I think I think clearly one of the possible outcomes of the next 50 years is a really extremely chaotic everyone to themselves kind of kind of world where governments have kind of lost authority and broken apart. People have split away in different ways and found and managed to protect different strongholds or something like that and that there's generalized kind of chaos across the land and what what a thousand years from now if they're still in the human's round might be seen as the second dark ages just like we wound up with the Second World War. So I don't think that's out of the question and a lot of the stuff that's happening right now is of life changing extinction level event importance that that the the forces are on the ground that could lead us in that kind of direction. I think just because humans being humans and looking back on history and I was just looking at uh and and I was kind of curating this part of my brain recently so I've got the revolutions of 1848 the springtime of the peoples the prog uprising the german revolutions the french revolution of 18 by the way there's been a whole bunch of french revolutions I didn't realize that and a whole bunch of Paris communes but then but then this thought that came out of a book or an article that I read probably the largest and most violent systemic crisis occurred between 1854 and 1871. It's the main de restoration it's the Indian rebellion is the seapoy mutiny it's the gun dot site in Germany the Spanish glorious revolution and then preceded by the revolutions I just pointed to and and this basically changes you know these are sort of and I was trying to create a thought called years of turmoil and I was putting you know our current protests I think I created this little this tiny nexus here back in 2019 when we had street protests and a whole bunch of stuff and this is connected to was 20 2006 peak democracy and and so on so so I think we're in the mill right now we're in we're in the the great reshaping and one of the reasons I love our work in OGM is that I feel like we're fighting the good fight to try to figure out what the next ground rules are and how to live together and and how to explain those damn things to to other people who aren't involved yet and maybe even recruit them into being part of a civilization that's busy trying to share knowledge and rebuild how to how to do stuff right right that that's what that's what's energizing about this whole effort for me and I don't know if you want to riff on that Pete but where you fall on those spectra it's I find it really hard to I can imagine a bunch of different paths but it's hard to imagine which one is going to be the one it's a book but can you see fruitful paths oh yeah definitely the um I think I mailed it to the GM list there was there was that cool article about went to the other list a guided civic revival and I actually when I look at that it's it it looks like a bit of a Trojan horse to me the way that the article is written um because uh because they have this huge bibliography um and bibliography is it's a lot of it it's about economics so it it looks to me like a Trojan horse that you would wheel into the economic halls and say oh look you know you can just tell that we should you know have a well well-sighted econ paper uh we should have a guided civic retreat by a revival right um and then the economists and you know their iris towers can go um guided civic revival that sounds like great you know in the meantime I think there are other people going you know revolt revolution and they're talking about the same thing um just in different language remember small is beautiful yep and I you know I am highly influenced by the whole earth review and the and the co-evolution quarterly um I certainly you know love place I mean for my birthday I went to West Marin and it's like ah I feel good here and I feel rooted to this wonderful place um because I go there again and again and again and I pay attention to landscape and climate and you know I went to Dillon beach and you couldn't see 10 feet in front of you because of the fog and it was just ah this is weird I wouldn't have chosen to go here if I knew there was fog here but it's um what I choose to be with in a particular kind of way and the uh I I was fortunate to connect with uh Laura Edwards and she's she thinks in a different way than I do but I can learn from it I find that she sparks um at least seven different flips of my way of thinking and one of them you know I think about meaning in a linguistic way and Laura thinks about meaning in a value way and I didn't get that until she she she brought that up and um yeah anyway I'm thinking about it but the what value we can create together I mean you you went through this you know how's really created who's creating the value um before Jerry um I want to listen to the recording of this and and uh get all of them exactly but um I keep on going back to my own experiments of having campfires I get two other people who don't know each other the conversation is incredible um and then here we are at four and and you know other calls we have 20 and that's of a kind of scale a kind of network dynamics and we're talking here about network dynamics from you know maybe individual to the entire Gaia and these network dynamics of say Dows which I'm open completely to understanding and and paying more attention to um uh certainly uh I told uh Brewster um that you know when it comes to cryptocurrency I'm kind of a a Luddite um and he goes Luddite working at the internet archive are you sure it's like well segmentation here but um the DAO seems to be able to or at least thought about you know this what what is the scale of the DAO is the simple question is it 20 people is it 500 people is it above or below the Dunbar number is it you know the scale of uh Apple or IBM or or not um you know does this make sense at the level of the ability to get the type of things done that we want in our culture like MacBooks like Microsoft Word things that are big things that that take time and and a heck of a lot of coordination and are valuable um you know uh space colonies that type of thing um hmm don't know um interesting uh conversation if you were bringing this up and for uh stirring the box around yeah thanks Mark um there's an interesting human tension between the desire to be a little extended family tribe which is what humans are supposed to be and this massive billions of people machine that humanity has become and it's just you know it's it's a part of life there's a real dichotomy there they're two different things um except we we have a foot in both of them and I knew nothing I mean I didn't remember adding this book to my brain before but this is from 1941 by Leopold Korr who's a really famous thinker in this area but this union now a plea for society based upon small autonomous unions is like what we're talking about right yeah as far as I can tell and Korr is kind of the spark of small as beautiful which is the thing that heads toward you know uh you have Schumacher and Hazel Henderson who said Schumacher etc etc there's like a whole lineage there um but I'd be really interested in sort of seeing if anybody's updating those kinds of things yeah uh tables of six are a really great conversational size like that's a that's a very very nice size for having several different interesting conversations and not being overwhelmed and you know getting to know everybody who's at the table and all that kind of stuff um Russ Akoff uh when he would set up workshops and do stuff he would use you know Miller's magic number seven plus or minus two to do the groups so each table would have seven plus or minus two people at it no more than nine because that's the number of people who's who's threads you could hold in your head you could you kind of track that that number of people yeah it looks like uh Paul Panguero um archived the essay is it a book an essay you know what length it is essay okay cool that's great that means it's just a long read there's just too many interesting long reads and I you know um I need to move myself faster into the place where we're munching on long reads together does that make sense yeah makes a lot of sense and mulching them and composting them together and figuring out what the connections are and talking about these kinds of lineages and threads these these little mycelial connections between ideas together um speaking of this yeah um Mary Medjali I mentioned in a past conversation and I went back to her book um wisdom information and wonder what is knowledge for I mean certainly you know I'm coming in on the um you know global brain kind of idea what there we go that's this is what I did not explicitly ask for but what I wanted to say thank you cool and I've not read this book I don't remember even that it's in my brain so thank you for totally highly suggested um first chapter huh you know uh why are we doing these knowledge practices um especially when it comes to specialization yep um and uh a very very wise set of questions that she's asking in the first chapter um and and goes on to to you know engage them more deeply but you know the the point of information can't be just to store it and I brought that up at a at a meeting uh you know one of the open lunches at the internet archive before I joined them um used to go to the Friday lunches all the time and the reply was yeah but we have to store it too that's you know that's a very difficult technical um task that takes a heck of a lot of resources yes I agree yes we have to store it too but it can't be only storage a long read um very valuable thank you looks really interesting um I and these days one of the first things I do is find out if there's a really good review of it or if somebody did a video explaining it on youtube um because usually you often I'll find a 20 minute digest of a good book that that brings me up to date kind of and then now and then it's like oh shit I gotta read this which is why I'm reading Iowa Way's biography now which is fascinating just fascinating his father's birth was a bad portent for his family so they sent them off to live with like poor folk here's one line from my 1000 plus notions from the book a line that I read yesterday or day before yesterday systems of external reward are notoriously as crude and uncertain in their working as systems of punishment this is the extrinsic rewards trumpin's intrinsic motivation kind of thing where's the quote from um somewhere in the book probably the third chapter from midgeley's wisdom book yeah thank you but you know um and all of this goes right back to hell the dowels and the design of dowels exactly I mean it's right there yes um you know what is the value of knowledge itself for its own sake and you know what is the value of knowledge as a commodity you know Pete thank you anyway um thank you yeah thank you and we we've gone an hour and Pete did draft some more paragraphs to a note that I should send looking for a virtual assistant we should look at it real quick we should look at it real quick let's um go back to it over here so uh hi it's jerry I've got a new podcast let me get thumbnails out of the way um I've got a new podcast coming up called leaving the world which is about blah blah blah I'm looking for a smart and thoughtful person to help with doing the operations side of the world things like looking for hosting services for podcasts helping me schedule the requests keeping track of all the little tasks that will need to get done someone you right now please ping me with leads or questions thanks um so is this a description of is this the best description of what I'm looking for I think is the question Mark go ahead time limit uh basically uh hours per hours per month or week or something yeah there's no notion of uh amount a budget or a time yeah yeah I mean I'm not looking to hire a full-time person that's for sure so yeah uh is it monthly or um I don't actually know sort of a rhythm of uh how many episodes might might turn out because because a piece of me is playing with how much of the normal conversations we're having even like this one actually are pieces of this conversation leaving the world episodes in some sense right uh because there there there are things that we were talking about that make a lot of sense in that context here uh from how do dows fit to leopold core and mary migley and good old e f and e f shoemaker was at the coal board it's it's astonishing to me in world history how many things find their way back to coal coal is like this this this this ugly dusty thing at the heart of so much of human history coal mile right unlike well yeah sort of you know the sappers in world war one are basically coal miners from wherever the surviving coal miners were in england because they knew how to dig and stay alive and in the civil war as well yeah yeah we get a lot of human activity around energy yeah and food and killing other humans yeah their positions exactly time-honored tradition at least for our culture yeah yeah yeah exactly and there were other cultures where it wasn't such a big deal and the problem is the interface between those two those two types of cultures that that's really problematic in human history i mean one of one of my big questions is how do you create a pacifist culture that can survive assault by not so pacifist cultures that's that's really important how do you and walk away was interesting in that way like corey doctor's book because he's like just walk away from the thing you built because you can always build a new one and in fact the new one you can improve because you've changed your mind about the the software designs for how to do stuff and then you just instantiated because we've invented matter compilers and you can get you know you can get water from moisture in the air etc etc so we're not quite that far on the tech and i don't know what other visions are appealing in this sense because human history is just this bad story of interesting civilizations wiped out by their warring neighbors go ahead mark you've heard of what people have called the books of e and m banks the culture series yeah i think it's something like automated luxury communism but there's also gay automated luxury right and and you know it's there's falk which is uh yeah well it's the f4 free now fully automated luxury fully automated fully automated luxury communism yep haven't heard of that acronym but thank you yep yep falk uh there we go and i hadn't heard of the different variants so i've got uh falk here but not the others and utopian visions of automation uh automation may bring us a comfy future uh here's one a i could perfect communism you know the the work of um cyber net assist stafford beer oh yes um uh was moving in that a i could perfect communism uh notion but uh stafford is a really cool thinker and and his books are a mixture of tight set and hand drawn and they're very they're they're not abstract and plaky they're just they're like integral and beautiful and i wish i wish i actually spent more time finishing and reading i which one was it platform for change is the one i this one was this is the one that i had yeah yeah and the pages are different colors uh like it's all white quite black he must have been held for his publishers to work with but really fun as a thinker teens integrity and he got wrapped up into project cybersyn with a yende chile which ended badly which ended really badly anyway thank you for this conversation let me go back to the letter for a second so so pete thank you for for what you wrote i think i need to just spend a little bit of time with the second paragraph looking for you know what the you could totally rewrite it um well i like the rest of it yeah fully automated luxury gay space communism in know your name on the wrong place sweet that's the whole thing thank you i forgot about space the old space yeah it's like nuke the gay whales for jesus which was a thing back in the 80s i guess nuke the gay whales for christ yeah um thank you more soon no i'm just i'm i'm i'm uh i'm censoring myself because richard category had a set of bumper stickers that were guaranteed to get you pulled out of your car and beaten to a pulp in the south but um it's not pretty good it's not it's not appropriate for this conversation uh because it's being recorded okay to be to be uh yeah so so jerry it's time to stop the recording i think that's entirely can say one or two things and then we can there we go


Hello. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Hello beautiful. How you doing today? You look magnificent. Stunning. Oh. Electrifying. I couldn't think of anything. We'll leave it at stunning. How about that? You look great. Um thanks for being here today. I don't know if you can guess what we're gonna be watching but it might have something to do with the, you know, the title right below me. It says what? People go from blonde to blue hair. I'm excited about it. I think that's a fun change. So why don't we just do it? Let's watch some people dye their hair from blonde to blue and hopefully it comes out good. Probably not, but we shall see. Let's do it. Slide on over here. Now I'm all set. Now really, don't mind me. Our first video is called Bleaching and Dying My Hair Blue. How fitting for this video. And it's by a girl named Anahi. And we're gonna watch the video now. Hello, what up y'all? I'm bleaching and dyeing my hair blue. And you have an audience. They're all freaking the out after she touched her hair for two seconds with the first dot of bleach. I love that. Yo, you just can do that. You just did that. And we're starting right at the root. Why? I guess it just seems like the most practical place to start for some reason is right at the root. It actually is just not a good idea because you have heat from your scalp and it processes faster. I've said that a million times. I'm gonna say it again. Any year. I'm rich and I love it. I'm a little bit of a... That song was written about me. Oh, okay. Yeah. Now that looks really good. My hair feels really crunchy and dry. Damage team. It looks bad. I don't think that I could say anything good about it at this point. So good for her. All right. I should have bought two packets of bleach because one packet could only do half my head. My hair is really yellow. I think she should just leave it half dark, half light. I think it looks so good. Is that just me? And it came out so uneven.  Do you see the way you applied it? I will update whenever I do the other half and then I tone it and then I dye it. Okay. A couple of days. Okay. She was living with that.  I also impulsively got bangs. I love this girl. I'm just gonna go ahead and say it. I love her. So she is going blue. So it's not really that big of a deal that her hair is super yellow except when blue and yellow mix, they make green. So you might have a green situation on her hands. How fitting today. I mean, I did not plan that, but, you know, we're very green today. Well, hopefully her hair is not green, but I'm very green, but her hair is gonna be green. Watch. Starting at the roots again. All right. Okay. I don't know what this method is. It's a minor part. Okay. She actually looks like she did a better job on that side than on the previous side. So please, there's just a little bit more consistency on this side. No, who am I kidding? It's gonna look like no matter what. So I just bleached my hair. Yeah. My mom just finished helping me bleach. Pretty much looks terrible. I would hardly call your hair blonde. Hardly. Yeah. That's pushing it a little bit.  I also touched up like some spots that were dark and stuff on this side, but not too much. All right, y'all. Oh. The next day. The sister has some orange bangs now too. If it wasn't enough for one sister, we had to have two of them with awful looking hair. Bad. Really bad. My hair is completely dry. She does look way cooler though. I'll take the orange. And I also bleach them. She's also gonna dye them. Listen, they kind of look oddly cute though. I mean, they're both beautiful and the hero gives them kind of like a really interesting vibe. And I love the bang. We're onto something. I don't know what it is yet, but hopefully it's good. Are you saying there's like a patch that is blue? That patch is what you're concerned about. Not the rest of the hair, just the patch. I just finished putting the toner in my hair. What the is that? It's already turning purple because purple cancels out the orange and like the yellow brassy tones in my hair. So won't be yellow. Yeah. Cancels out yellow. It'll be actual blonde. So I have to leave this in for like 25 minutes and then I'm gonna wash it out. All right. And it looks no different. After the toner. I like how she knew to take that extra step and kind of like pre-toner hair before doing the blue. However, we somehow ended up starting with the roots and applying the color on the roots first. We can't ever just have a video where they do every single thing right.   And it's like, oh, I did that correctly. And then it's like, I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to this thing. You know what I mean? Why is that?  Dye it now. I'm really impatient and I just want to dye my hair already. And plus, I don't think this looks the best on me. She's living though. She's not concerned one bit. So the dyes that I ultraviolet and then this one is in rockabilly blue. Ooh. No, you could probably say it already is a mess actually all over your body. So I've had my hair. Okay, this actually might look really good. It's gonna be pretty patchy and uneven, but at the same time, who really cares? I feel like it's gonna be a good look for her. So I'm not too mad about it, but I'm a little bit mad about it, but I could be more mad about it, but I'm this mad about it, not mad about it. And let's see what the outcome is. I'm gonna rinse it out and actually look good. Wait, what? Who is this person? Go to Sworn, I was just looking at like a 13 year old girl. Do her hair for the last 10 minutes.  Is this the same girl? I'm not mad at it though. When did her hair get so long?  Oh my God dude, she looks stunning. Dude, that was such a transformation. Oh my God. Ah. Who doesn't like it? But yeah, my hair. Dude, how did that come out so good? She got really lucky. She looks so good. That was such a cool transformation. Wow, that was like exciting for me. Let's move on. Oh my God, that was a lot for me. All right, our next video is by Tina Halada. And it's dyeing my hair blue vlog, plus random chats. Okay. Today, I'm going to be acting on a very impulsive decision. I tweeted like a few days ago. I was like, I feel like dyeing my hair blue. Don't know why. Everybody needs a blue moment at some point in their life. Okay, Tina? I also look a mess right now, trust me. I'm so aware.  You look great, Tina. You look great. Yeah, so I dyed my roots the other day because my roots were grown out. Basically, what happened was some reason my hair just would not pick up like the toner where my roots were dyed, like literally the only place I needed the toner to be. Well, I mean, Tina, listen here girl. It's not usually that the toner doesn't pick up. It's usually because the roots weren't light enough when you put the toner on. So the toner cannot affect the color because it's not light enough yet. Tina, understand what I'm saying, Tina? Therefore, the toner doesn't pick up. Wow, did I just go in a circle? I guess Tina was right. The toner did not pick up, but it's because your roots weren't light enough or you just didn't mix the toner right. At this point, I've completely lost my train of thought and we're just going to keep watching the video and pretend that didn't happen. All right, thanks. Okay. Okay. Before we start this video, I'm just going to show you guys what I'm going to be using. I've never dyed my hair a color before, but I've been watching a lot of YouTube videos. So this is the live crime unicorn hair. And this one is in the shape powder, which this is what it should look like. You can't really see that. Okay. It's like gray blue. Actually, like probably the worst quality video I've ever uploaded on YouTube. Any lights set up, I just put my phone in my bathroom. Figure, you know, maybe not go straight to the neon blue and just do something a little bit more low. Keepers. This is the low key at all though. It's still going to be blue, especially since I have platinum hair. Like the color is going to pick up. Oh, that looks dark. The reason that I'm using this brand and this type is because it's going to be temporary. This is what happens. I don't know what it is about blonde people. Yeah, you, but we all have this desire to just up our hair as much as possible. And in any way, shape or form, we can make that happen. I don't know why, but you either want to just go red. You want to go purple. You want to go pink. You never just want to stay blonde for some reason. It's just like always that craving to just like color it a different color. I have that craving all the time, but I just suppress it. I'm really good at suppressing things. So I have a lot of experience with that throughout my life. Just keeps pressing and a lot of people don't.  I'm guessing. Gonna last me about like a week in my hair and then it'll wash out. I don't know about that. Just in case I don't want my hair to end up being green. It's really, really bright blue, but yeah, it's kind of scary. I watched a couple of YouTube videos where people would dilute this, but I don't know if I want to. My hair is like freshly dyed. I don't know if this is a good idea. So it's kind of fine. This is going to be so blue. So blue. Some oil or something. I'm so for this idea, but I just don't think Tina is exactly ready for it from how she's acting. I'm just going to put that out there. I'm not wearing gloves because I heard that you don't really have to with this. Great. So I'm just going to love my sleeves. Okay. I actually really like this sweater, so I don't want to ruin it. I know I was going to die on it either way though, so. Ah! I'm so nervous. It's hard for my hair to end up turning green. Hey, Tina knows the color theory because when blue and yellow mix together, it causes green to happen. Makes green. So she thinks her roots are going to turn green and her ends are going to turn blue, which might be the case. I wouldn't recommend making your, when you're working on a canvas, right? You're going to paint it blue. You got to make sure that canvas is neat and clean and perfectly prepared and that you shouldn't have orange roots, white ends. You'd have it all be beautifully white and perfectly toned before then putting the blue on. That's what's going to give you the best results. Otherwise, you're going to get all different colors everywhere and it's going to be such a disaster and that might just be what happens. So this blue is a beautiful shade. There's a struggle for me recently. So I'm going to just keep going like over and over and over. It's kind of like a grayish, purplish, blue pastel. It's giving me a lot of vibes and I think it's going to be very good for her. However, I still don't think she's going to like it. I don't know. I've dealt with a lot of indecisive clients throughout the years and she definitely seems like one of them. And I know what happens when you try a different color on those indecisive clients, they go, what did you do that to me? And you're like, you asked for that. And then they're like, yeah, but why did you actually do it?  And they're like, why do you convince me not to do it?  That's why. No, I'm kidding. Well, sometimes. No, I'm just kidding. If I don't like something on somebody, if I don't think it's going to look good, then I don't do it. If I do think it's going to look good, then I do do it. And yeah, usually I like blue hair. So I do it and they don't like it and they're freaked out by it.  Your hands are going to be so stained.  It's literally dye. Why would it not dye your skin? Dished my whole, the whole dye part. You guys, I need to like clean up my forehead. I always need to clean my bathroom. My bathroom is a mess. I'm ready to see it. I'm ready to see it. I'm ready to see it. I just put a timer for about 30, 40 minutes. I'm not sure how like blue I want to go.  Just saying, I mean. I just did my makeup because I'm getting ready to go out. It's so much bluer than I thought it was going to be. Like so much bluer than I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be like a blue tint, but it's blue. And I don't think there's any going back. I feel like this is the auto-fina hair color. Wait, wait, wait. Other side. So I guess I'm just going to wash my hair again tonight. Hopefully speed up like the face. Blow dry it. So yeah, it's going to fade to like a lighter blue color. That's why I'm like not freaking out right now. Still wet. I just rinsed it out and I'm going to have to blow dry it. Here to let me borrow her blow dryer because I broke mine. Remember I was saying yesterday I was like I'm going to dye my hair. I love it. I really love it. What? Oh my God. Calm down. Ew.  Everyone's just going to make fun of me. No, you look amazing. What's the issue here? I don't understand. Didn't you dye your hair gray? It looks like a steel gray. I mean, okay. I mean, it's definitely uneven. That is 100% for sure a fact. Do I like it? Yes. Is it more of a steel gray? Yes. Am I okay with that? Yes. Is it still kind of cool? Yeah. If you shed, like it's just going to be blue hair. I love it. Dude, she looks sick. Like a powder.  Oh, just go home and wash it. It's going to fade. Just give it a few shampoos. Yeah, no, you can go home and it'll fade. They're like, are you sure? It'll fade. Yeah. In like two years it'll fade. They're like what? Two years it'll fade. She looks so cool. That was also amazing.  I don't think it needs to be perfect. It's blue hair. It's supposed to look kind of punky and weird and fun. You know what I mean? Like it doesn't need to be perfect. I loved it. It was sickening. It was so cool. It was awesome. It was great. I loved it. I want more of that. I hope I inspire you to now go and color your hair blue.  I'm struggling right now for content. When you spend years doing hair just reacts, you actually end up not having many things to react to anymore. No, I'm just kidding.  We're just getting started here. Blue hair is incredible. That's what I learned today. Well, I relearned that. I already knew that but I also like forgot about it for a little while and now I remember. Blue hair is sickening and I want it now and I'm not gonna do it. I'm gonna hold myself back and I'm not gonna color my hair blue because that would be bad. What would it be? Yeah, it'll be pretty bad. So I'm not gonna do that but these girls look amazing. I think it really refreshed their look and it looks for fun and cool and all those things. So if you're thinking about doing your hair blue, I say go for it. It's fun. It's cool. I think it looks great on pretty much everybody. All right, that is all for today, you guys. 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Hey everyone it's Robert so today I'm going to show you how to win every single attack round in Valorant or at least every single post plant situation. I wanted to make this video because honestly I'm tired of not seeing it in my own games and I also didn't really see a lot of other videos talking about this concept that wasn't like 10 to 15 minutes long and it's so so so effective so if you're watching this hopefully you get some value out of this video. So to win every single post plant situation or almost every single attack round if you can get the bomb down you have to do this thing called playing for time. When people start playing Valorant especially on attack the concept of time just doesn't exist it just there it's just not a thing. So when you get the bomb down the enemy team has a certain amount of time to defuse it or else they lose the round. You're forcing the enemy team's hand so I'm going to show you guys a clip on how exactly to play time one example of playing time in one of my games from one of my live streams so let's watch this clip here. Last one alive the bomb is down I kill Omen I know Rain is alive and she doesn't have that much time left to work with to defuse the bomb.  So I make noise that I'm moving towards Raina to let her know that I'm coming she doesn't really have a choice but to hop off the bomb otherwise she dies she hops off the bomb I saw her hop off the bomb for like half a second there so now I know that I have her pinned right now literally all I have to do is stay alive and we win the round no matter what she sticks it again I peek make sure she's not on it again because again she knows I'm here so she's hopping off it now she's trying to beat me but it's not working because I'm playing time she sticks it again I peek shoot once make sure she's still not not on it because I'm playing time and I'm not pushing her I'm just staying alive because again we will win the round and this is pistol round as well so not we'll probably win the next one as well this is two rounds for my team that we're going to win because I'm playing time this is how important this is and now she has no choice but to stick it pretty much because otherwise they're going to lose the round so now we win no matter what so I jump shoot her like once or twice she just has no choice and I kill her I know it's a really simple concept and you're probably watching this video like I already knew that but you're not applying it in your games especially if you're playing like brimstone or viper or killjoy especially killjoy just stall when the bomb is down you don't need to frag out you don't need to get kills just play for time and you will win so many more attack rounds I promise you drop a like if you enjoy the video share it with a friend who also needs to learn the concept of playing time and I'll see you guys in my next video


Welcome to the program Simon. Just as I look, 10-year US Treasury yields at 1.567% so lower than the US close on Tuesday. It certainly seems as if there's some changing expectations out there. Certainly, Nadine. Good afternoon. We're seeing, as you've mentioned there, that messaging from the US Fed starting to position markets for a possibility we could see a hike this year. Remember, we had the first hike in December last year. We've had no move since then, even though the Fed did indicate at that time there would be four further increases this year. We've come out of a period where the market was discounting any chance of a rate increase this year. So, you know, the futures market now just slightly above 50%. And I think you've got, obviously, positive jobs coming through, a positive trend on some of those data points, but then you've also got the lower growth, lower inflation. So, hence, as you mentioned, all eyes on the July minutes. So, July minutes. What will need to be contained in the July minutes to really, I guess, firm up expectations that we will, in fact, see a hike this year? Will it be commentary surrounding inflation? Will it be commentary surrounding, I guess, the global picture? Because the Fed has been quite willing to use some of those global, you know, risks out there as a reason not to hike. I think you've got that right there, Nadine. I think it's the global factors. And, you know, I think their inability to hike has generally been because of those global factors continued market support by other central banks. And I think the positive out of that is that they didn't see the sort of volatility post that Brexit vote that market expected seems to have recovered quite well. And so, that's not such a major influencer. So, I think you're right. I think they'll, you know, a bit of an update on those global factors and how they see them moving forward. Interesting to know. We've got St. Louis Fed President James Bullard speaking as well in St. Louis. And he is obviously one of those that have refrained from, actually, he's the one that refrained from putting his dot plots on the last, I guess, making them publicly available saying that he wasn't going to play that game anymore. So, that will be interesting. We've also got MBA mortgage applications in the U.S. Now, our own central banker was out last night speaking with the Australian in the Wall Street Journal saying that he doesn't see why the U.S. Fed couldn't hike this year considering everything that's out there, all the knowns. I guess there would be nothing more that RBA Governor Glenn Stevens would like then to see a Fed hike coming through. You're absolutely right. It would take a lot of pressure off of him. And, you know, as we see the Aussie dollar climb back up by hitting that 77, currently I think in the about 7680. So, you know, if the U.S. does increase their rates, it does take some pressure off the need for the Aussie, the RBA to lower rates. And so, and I think Glenn Stevens would be very, very happy with that. That's what we've been waiting for all along. And that delay in the U.S. increasing rates has really led to those two rate cuts we've seen this year in Australia. So, talk to us about any issuances that are capturing your attention that are driving the markets. Yeah. So, today we've had BMW come out. They're looking to do your Euro bond, Aussie dollar bond. BMW Finance Australia issued an Aussie dollar bond back at the beginning of last year. So, you know, we're seeing a lot of offshore corporates come in and accessing the Aussie bond market. That's great for Aussie investors on the back of significant issuance by the major banks. Interestingly, I had a bit of a look at the BHP bonds. Trading obviously posed that announcement in the last 24 hours. Very little movement in those. Still very highly bid. Investors happy to support BHP from the debt side. Yeah, OK. And is there anything sort of big on the horizon that we should be watching out for? Look, I think all eyes really on the Fed at the moment. I think that's going to be the key driver. You know, I think we had from one of the major banks here an expectation that the Aussie cash rate will be down at 1% next year. You know, what the U.S. does will be very much a determinant of whether we get to that low on the cash rate. Most markets suggesting there would be another quarter percent cut here by the end of the year. So, all eyes on the U.S. I think at the moment, nadings. OK. Well, for everything that changes, everything stays the same, doesn't it? Thank you for joining us. Always appreciate your time. Thank you very much. I'm Michelle there joining us from Fig Securities. Well, we're taking a short break. When we return, business class will take you around the world in half an hour. Back in just a moment. There's a first time for everything. She likes shapes, colors.


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May I say a word about the world's situations in the museum? I don't want to take a regular time, but you can code it. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Mr. President, I present Mr. Paul Gottlieb. This is Bob Morton, my editor. Nice to see you. This is Judith Michael, the designer of the book. And this is Beverly Fazio, who was the assistant author of the book. Mr. Gottlieb wants to do a little presentation. This is a specially-bound copy of Mike's book. It's given us enormous pleasure to work with him. It's a really significant project, a record of your administration and others who have been in Washington at the time and present. It is the only book I've ever published, which was obsolete, but I haven't published it yet. Thank you. Well, I'm very proud and pleased to have this. Thank you. Very fancy. You'll find here where the ribbon is that there is a portrait of yourself. Don't forget, sir. Well, thank you very much. This particular company is unique. Yes, I understand that. I'm very honored. Thank you very much. Did you ever think when you started with that first box camera? He's come a long way. Thank you very much. Thank you. I have to have some souvenirs. That's very nice. Thank you very much. I was just looking up there to draw your attention to something since the same thing as on all of those. Notice which way the eagle's head turns. The eagle's head is left to the olive branch. Mary Truman did that. Until then, the eagle's face was always turned to the arrows. I have to reward till the switch. Thank you, sir. Thank you very much. I hope to see you later at the opening. Yes, be there tonight. How are you? I'm very pleased to have this. Thank you very much. Congratulations. Thank you. We'll send one to you. I'm very pleased to have this. If you can imagine, we're pretty proud of this. Yes, the only major school for the none time. I was coming up here. I didn't play on that kind of thing. We broke even, we thought it was pretty much. I want to tell you something that I think the coach would appreciate. I learned an awful lot from the football coach. We're off Mackenzie. He's 90. No, I'm sorry. He's still in the upper eights. But he is still. We were a small school. 250 students, school education back in those depression days. The average team that we played with in the school was about 10 times our involvement. And so it was always an uphill battle.  We have a lot of time to win more games than we do. Why can't we have a schedule in the name of our restricted schools that we might play? And he said, yes, I could do that. But he said, tell me, even if you had been here, he said, would you remember with any great joy that you'd be in the history of these games, which I won't be. Or he said, would you like to remember more that you played against the kind of team that we're playing with each other? We knew he was right. We learned a little lesson that was true. 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And Napoleon said, you're trying to tell me that you can have a ship that will sail against the current and against the wind by building a bonfire under its deck. I won't listen to you. That's hard to convince people. In fact, I'm glad you enjoyed those. Well, I have my button board to use with. Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you. Thanks so much. Thank you. Sheila Kastin, you with ABC. Hi. What was with you? You kind of slant that way. I'm sorry. All right. Nice to see you. Steve Shepard. How do you do? I see you. Thank you. No. Pleasure. My pleasure. I'll join you. Patricia Wilson. With Rorty, she's the rapper. I love you, too. I love you, too. My pleasure. George DeLau. How are you? I'm good. I'm from Chicago. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you. I'm a couple fan. Well, close to the old home territory, too. Dale Nelson. He's an AB. He's better than I am. I understand. I understand. Thank you. Pleasure. I hope to see you. I bet we ought to have a group. 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So I don't know where they're going to have time to go out. I'd like to. President, I know I'm going to have to flip the coin, aren't I? Yep. He said today we might have to do the inaugural. The four years would be easy. Just get through the inaugural and get a job. Who are you rooting for? Well, I find this job I can't. Well, we're not supposed to coach you today. You can test us now. I read somewhere that you watched an Australian film with Kent David called Farland. Watch what? An Australian film called Farland. Yes, yes. Kent David, did you enjoy it? That's the fun thing. We get to see movies anymore as we run them up. Yes, very much. Have you seen other Australian films? What? Have you seen other Australian films? Yes, a man from Stony Rivers. No. No.