The Mac Observers' Mac GeekGab Episode 744 for Monday, January 14th, 2019. Folks, and welcome to the Mac Observers' Mac GeekGab, the show where we take your questions, your tips, your cool stuff found, the cool stuff we found, the tips we found, and we share everything we can, including answering your questions kind of like car talk for Apple users, with the goal being that everybody, all of us, me included, him included, you. We all learn at least five new things every single time we get together. Sponsors for this episode include LinkedIn jobs at LinkedIn.com slash MGG where you can save 50 bucks, BB at it from Barebones Software at Barebones.com and Cashfly at Mac.Cashfly.com. We'll talk about what each of those things means a little bit later throughout the episode. For now, here, back in Durham, New Hampshire, I'm Dave Hamilton. And here, back in Fairfield, Connecticut, this is John F. Braun. How are you doing, Mr. John F. Braun? Get back from CES, OK? Yeah, yeah, cool. Flights were uneventful, weather was uneventful here and there. That's good. Just wind it down as you are from the chaos that is CES and the visual and everything overload. Yeah, it is overload. At least for me. At CES. But I mean, that's sort of the point, right, is it's, you know, this very compressed sort of thing that happens and everybody's there and we get to see all these great products. And actually, I want to take a minute and just thank our three CES 2019 sponsors, which is Text Expander from Smile, Carbon Copy Cloner from Bombic Software, and Other World Computing at MacSales.com. They, you know, it takes a lot to cover the show and to do it right because the point is not for us to tell you about everything that's there. That would be not only, I don't want to say impossible, but it would be probably worthless to you. It's impossible. Well, it would be possible, but it's, we would also be worthless. The point is to filter through it all and find the things that actually matter to all of you. And that's what I think we were able to do. I think we did a great job with it this year, if I can pat us collectively on the back. But we found some cool things. I want to take a minute and kind of just talk about if there's any cool things you saw that are standing out to you, John, sure, let's bring them up, but also just trends that that we saw there, you know, that there was nothing in my opinion, there was nothing overwhelmingly, you know, spectastic there, right? It was all like, you know, I mean, there was cool stuff for sure and cool tech being demoed and all that. But this wasn't a year where it was like, oh, my God, the entire world is going to change because of this, you know, technology that came out at CES or whatever. It wasn't that. But there were some things for sure. And the thing is, so the even so CTA, which is the umbrella organization of CES.  But, you know, they had an event where they were telling us, well, here's what we think are the coolest technologies that are like going to creep up on you. Yeah. At the beginning of CES, they do this trends event, right? And I don't know if I was necessarily so they talked about, OK, AK TVs. It's like, to me, Dave is an average guy. I'm still on 1080p. And they were talking about 5G, which I'm sure will, you know, the increased bandwidth and some VR stuff, too. But it was it was kind of like my impression was like they kind of all threw this together to kind of just get people excited. But none of them on their own was like something, as you said, earth shattering. So so there are definitely advances in the resolution or quality of the technology. But as far as like a new paradigm or something like that, I if anything I saw in what I noticed, I'll just go off script here. I don't have a script. But, you know, there were definitely let's let's talk about let's talk about these these trends because and then and then if there's anything specific we each have to to mention to our listeners here, let's do that. But 8K TVs. So I'm with you. I think most of us will not. We won't have TVs in the next few years anyway. We won't have TVs that are big enough where 8K would matter. However, you know, I always look at these things as not what it could do for me the way I consumed things yesterday. But what can it do to change the way I consume things tomorrow? And I think all three of these technologies you mentioned can really can and probably should be looked at in that light. So with 8K TVs, I started thinking, all right, look, when we got more resolution on our still cameras, right, we went from, you know, one megapixel, the two to four to eight to 12, right? As that happened, what what really began to happen was we could take, say, you know, a picture on our eight megapixel camera and crop it down, right, and still have a lot of good resolution. So think about that with TV. Wouldn't it be cool, even if I've only got a 4K TV or a 1080p? Actually, I don't even think the TV we have in the living room is 4K yet. I think it's just 1080p. But and it's a 60 inch screen, right? So what if I could take my 8K signal that's coming in and, you know, I'm watching, say, I don't know, you know, a football game or something where it's like, wait a minute, I want to see that play again. And I want to zoom in on like the guy's foot or whatever it is. Could I do that? Like I would have the data to do that with 8K. And if the tech now that we have the data, now the tech might be able to evolve to give the home user like that sort of control and and maybe a company like like Tivo or, you know, Comcast with their sep top boxes would do that. So that that's with 8K TVs, like that bandwidth brings with it a lot of possibilities for things that we don't even think about doing yet. And that's just one of them. So, and, you know, I'm actually with you on that because there have been occasions where I'm watching something in HD. Yeah, where so my angle is a little different in that I love Easter eggs. Sure. And the thing is every move almost every movie or cartoon or whatever has little hidden messages, but you need the resolution to see them. And sadly, in a lot of SD copies of the stuff I have, you just can't see it because it's just not there. It's just not there. Yes. And then as you point out, if you want that detail, you'll get it from 4K or 8K and exactly. Let's stop there for a minute. And so, yeah. And so so we've got that, right? And then 5G is sort of the same thing. It's like, well, you know, do we need our phones to download things faster? Well, I mean, that's always better. But when we're in a decent signal area, like it's pretty good right now. Again, the tech that the the apps that we use, the use cases that we have sort of match the bandwidth that we have. So now you add way more bandwidth with with 5G. We all, well, maybe we don't all know one big use of 5G is to replace your cable modem, right? Because you just put that you put a 5G receiver on your house. It can do gigabit speed like true real world gigabit speeds. Fine. You don't have a cable coming to the house. That's now your thing coming in. Then you connect that to another wireless router, or perhaps it's an all in one box like a cable modem, you know, residential gateway is now. And then it broadcasts your Wi-Fi in your house. So that's one use. Another use that they've talked a lot about is in vehicles. And the smarter our cars get, I feel the better off we are. Things like, you know, like right now, I've got a car that does lane assist and adaptive cruise control. But it'll it'll stop me before I plow into somebody. It'll actually nudge my car back into the lane. And it's doing all that just with cameras, like it has no idea what the other vehicles on the road are doing. So add to that communication amongst all vehicles and it gets even better, right? So five and five G increases all the bandwidth. So now we can do things like that, lower latency. So to me, that again, I'm looking to what what doors will this tech open up? Not what will it do for the thing I tried to do yesterday? OK, you know, I'm with you on that. Yeah, in the case of my vehicle, though, it's a threat to all that's surrounded. Yes, you're right. That's right. Yeah. No, truly, it really is. But if you haven't tried out like this lane assist stuff or any like that, it's really cool. Yeah. And it makes you. It makes it's crazy how much safer it makes you. And again, that like that. So if you're out of your lane, so it's looking at the the the lines on the road, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. When you cross it, it's like, well, that's not good. So yeah, it'll nudge it'll nudge me back in unless I'm like pushing across it. Control. Yes. Which is probably good thing. It's a good making the right choice computers computers are better I'm I will maintain that even today and certainly they will get better in the future But even today computers are better driver than humans Human we humans are awful like we like driving is just not a thing that we humans are That we should be good at we are distracted we you know focusing like that on a thing is not It's just not what we're built for We're built to think and and like do things and driving it on with you and I think if I read the news properly I think there has been one fatality attributed to a Driverless vehicle and there will be more unfortunately a lot better. Well, it's a lot better track record than Correct. Oh, right exactly exactly so but this feeds into that AI thing, right? It's the same sort of thing is like what can AI do for us while you start combining all this stuff We got higher bandwidth. We've got faster processors We've got you know machine learning so that we have all this data that we can synthesize together and pull Patterns out of and now you don't really need a super fast CPU because it knows the patterns, right? That's what machine learning does is you'd write for anybody that doesn't know like that's my my 10 second Example of machine learning is it takes lots and lots and lots of data of fast CPU or a series of them crunches It all down into a series of patterns and then you can have your much lower powered CPUs You know react to the to the data that these fast CPUs is crunched and so again with AI like you know My car is doing AI is it nudges back and that that sort of thing like this These are the good things that I think like those three texts will bring us. Is it revolutionary? Well, you know if it saves your life probably to you it is you know like but is it gonna Change the world. Huh, you know, no, okay I just want to mention one trend that I saw yeah at the show and And it kind of dovetails off of what you said. I saw at least three companies that had monitoring systems that would use I think but then I think they use they I somewhere But it was technology that was meant for caregivers hmm to know if Somebody had maybe hurt themselves. Yes, and the demos were all compelling and that they would show a camera And it would pick up it doesn't have to be complicated pick up a wireframe of Person who is a you know, not necessarily always taking care of themselves But needs to have someone watch over them and it would show one where the stick figure fell over and it like it Was like on the ground. It's like, okay. Well, I think I know what that means I think I should tell somebody about this But they were like it again at least three companies. I saw that had assisted Living technologies if you will that detected if something bad happened to somebody and to take it a step beyond I fallen and I can't get up because maybe you can't right your little buzzer or whatever So so it was really neat to see how you know with our aging population The community was coming up with solutions to you know help You know avoid disaster I thought it was cool and that they all popped up like this year I'd never really noticed the space until this year. No, you're right. It. Yeah, for sure for sure. Yeah One cool thing that I saw and I talked I talked about this on our daily observations podcast on on Friday with Kelly and John But John Braun, I mean you not not Marta Lera Is but I'll repeat it here because it was it was cool and it is one of those things that you I think we will see change Stuff there's a company called ultra haptics, which is using ultrasound for both control and feedback and what by that I mean the first demo I saw they had like a it was a Sensor bar. It was about the size of a large keyboard, right and You just floated or I floated my hand in front of it and then on the screen In front of me there was a little robot that appeared and I was able to sort of float it around in mid-air and and and spin it and twist it and have it do these actions just by moving my hand without touching anything and it was using ultrasound to sense where my hand was and how I was moving and it could be very articulate with it, right? It was very detailed and very controllable What was really cool was it was also using that same ultrasound to give me haptic feedback So I could feel resistance points against my hand now. I could easily push through that resistance It wasn't like it was holding me I don't know if that level of ultrasound would be safe but But it was very much like the haptic feedback on my phone again without me touching anything other than of course these sound waves So that was amazing on its own and then they sat me down in front of essentially a slot machine without any levers and You interacted with it the same way touching and pulling things on the screen with one Additional benefit that was also facilitated by the ultrasound and that was that it used those ultrasound waves to monitor where my face and Specifically where my eyes were so that once I sat down and it took maybe a quarter second to orient to me It was projecting a perfect stereo 3d image at my eyes So without glasses I was able to see in full 3d on this screen. It was super clear It didn't matter how I moved it tracked me just fine. It's really really cool So again, I mean they were using this in some slot machines or in some casinos rather in Vegas already But I could see this being very handy in the car Again, you know, did you take your eyes off the road? Did your eyes close? Right like these things could be really important to know Um, and should the car take over like, you know, did you fall just fall asleep at the wheel? If so, like let's you know, let's let's fix that. Let's see if we can help the driver So again, you know, these things are it's cool. So I can't stop talking about that one. So there you go Uh, you got anything anything else specific that you saw there john before we kind of move out of ces um In general, there were more Smart home things. Yeah standalone sensors. Um, and more people advertising, um home kit Which um, I would say got off to a rocky start Well, apple reduced the tech requirements for home kit last year. So it makes sense that we finally see The chip or the second You have detail on that. Oh, yeah Yeah, no, they they made it so that you don't need the chip anymore You can it can just all be done with software. They were they reduced the security requirements for a lot of different things so that so that thing so that Existing hardware is able to be adapted for home kit That's why we're seeing more and more home kit stuff because they they kind of lowered that bar Do you still need an apple tv as the hub or You you would need Well, no You can home kit direct from your you always have been able to home kit direct from your iphone to A device in your house now initially that device needed to have you know a super chip in it that could do elliptical Curved encryption and all that crazy stuff the apple tv is if you want to control Home kit when your iphone is not at home Right, so you can trigger your apple tv or or an ipad. I think an ipad can be a home kit controller or a home pod Can be a home kit controller Okay, yeah, so Yeah Yeah, it's cool. But you know, but I like i'm kind of with you I i'm not Time will tell but at this point Like I don't prioritize home kit and the stuff I buy I know and I know many listeners do and there's nothing wrong with that But when home kit came out, I already had a lot of devices None of which were home kit compatible. I was like, well, I'm not going to throw all this stuff away I'm not gonna say with me. I'm in the uh the a world for the most part and the uh wink world Yeah, there are the two worlds And they do everything I need and if you got a controller, you could also be in the google assistant world Uh because most of the stuff that works with the amazon a lady also works with google assistant, you know So and google assistant's cool. That's that's actually well, it depends for like home automation I think the the a lady is the best of the three main voice assistants for getting information Google assistance the best without question. It's I mean, it's so good Well, I would say that any product that advertised being a home product would have those two listed As the top contenders and maybe home kit and then maybe I agree with that. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, it's cool. All right Fun. So ces was worth it Thanks to all of you who kind of followed along with us while we were doing this out there and and of course Thanks to like I said our three ces sponsors text expanded carbon copy cloner and other world computing because uh It all like we all made it happen together and and that's a beautiful thing so I do want to take a minute and talk about uh our first sponsor for this episode which is linked in jobs I've been employing people for a long time and I can attest to the fact that the right hire Or the wrong hire can make a huge impact on your business I have hired the right people, of course Thankfully more often than not but I have made the wrong hires before because I didn't have enough options to choose from And man like that makes You got to have enough options to choose from And this is where linkedin has what I like to call their unfair competitive advantage because There's people out there looking for jobs and they might be on all the regular job boards in addition to linkedin But the people that aren't looking for jobs are still on linkedin in fact 70 percent of the us workforce is on linkedin All the time so by posting your job on linkedin You're actually getting in front of the people that might be Not be looking for a job but are perfectly qualified for you And those might very well be the people that you want because you want the people that are qualified for role For your role and maybe looking for something that they haven't seen yet So Linkedin is the place to do this and that's why a new hire is made every 10 seconds using linkedin. Here's the cool part You can go to linkedin.com slash m gg and you get $50 off your first job post I have actually made a hire based upon Someone that I found within that first $50 of spend so like don't think that this is This is valuable here. Trust me on this. That's linkedin.com slash m gg You get $50 off your first job post as I said linkedin.com slash m gg terms and conditions apply of course And our thanks to linkedin jobs at linkedin.com slash m gg for sponsoring this episode All right, john, let's go to Our first quick tip for the day. Shall we we have quite a few of them here if I can get my stuff together You with me my friend. Okay, you got it. I'm with you. All right. Cool. All right Scott Scott brings us in he says Under safari on any ios device. You'll see the little two squares icon in the lower Right hand corner On the iphone and the top right on the ipad. This will let you manage your tabs, right? If you tap it you can see all your tabs and you can switch to one or do whatever you want But here's the thing if you hold down that button It'll give you an option to close all of your tabs And some of us might be surprised to see the number of tabs that it's offering to close Because a lot of times I think I I did it with I'm not going to point out which of my family members But uh, but there were over 200 tabs open On a device at one point. What's that? Which one? I don't know that you do actually, but uh, But there you go. So yeah, it's okay. That's a cool tip I I and this is the beauty of quick tips. I use this all the time as I mentioned I've already pointed it out to family members that was before scott's email came in even And I don't think I've ever thought to mention it here on the show. So There you go. My guess is it's either hector Or lisa so here's the thing is that today January 14th is hector d birds 26th birthday. So happy birthday hector Yeah, so I think one of our friends pointed this out online. Yeah, his former uh, master Oh, is that right? Did somebody else point it out? I know lisa was pointing it out today too, but uh, Oh, uh, begnus. Yeah. Oh great And I still remember it was not only an iron beak, but an iron wing I still remember a reference to an iron wing. I may be hallucinating. I don't know It's possible. You're hallucinating. You did just come back from Las Vegas.  That's correct. Anyways, um I thought I saw the reference and he thinks so too, but anyways, the other thing I want to bring up here, Dave Is not only in addition if you hold down on the little square thing you get something Um extra, but did you know so you see the little bookmark icon? If you click on if you hold down on that It'll bring up a thing saying oh add bookmark or add to reading list. Isn't that amazing and then if you hold down on the left Pointing arrow on the bottom left of the screen and you hold down on that it brings up history I did not know this but I was Hearing this tip. I was like, you know what? I should try every other icon and see if they do anything So here's a tip folks. You got extra time on your hands Just hold down on every icon and just see what happens. Yeah Then you can send us a quick tip and you know, we could do that Dave You could send a quick tip to feedback at macgeekab.com I believe you said feedback at macgeekab.com John Yes, I did we mentioned it once before but I just want to make sure everybody knows feedback at macgeekab.com is where you send Your obscure tips or not obscure tips Really like these are these seem obvious to to many of us But we know they're not obvious to everyone until you know, they're obvious So that's they're obvious if bumble-fingered. Yeah, like we all do but sometimes It just works to all our benefits. So Anyways, speaking of feedback at macgeekab.com if you wanted to search for email from a specific sender Todd points out In apple mail when you click on the down right arrow To the to the right of the or the down arrow to the right of the sender's name. So if you get a message from us, right You'll see a little down facing carrot or down facing arrow If you click on that there's several things that you can do you can copy the address You can send a new email, but at the bottom you can search for email from macgeekab feedback And it's a really handy way to just tell mail to search for all the email from one sender So that another quick tip. Thanks, Todd. Good stuff. It's great. I love it Right good john Where'd that come from? I know It's great. I never noticed that see new. Who knows? No, it's not new. That's been there for a very long time Yeah, but that's the beauty of these quick tips. If you don't know until you know, yeah uh Also in the quick tip category rich sends this along He says, uh, did you know that when you share a contact from your ios contact app via message or email That anything you have typed into the notes field will not Transfer that stuff remains private to you So there you go. I had no idea about that Um, but that's a handy thing to know Obviously, it's worth testing on your own so that you can share with confidence But um, but yeah, yeah, I test I did test it on my own. I didn't want to share this tip without I could imagine Oh, not this jerk. Yeah, exactly. Right.  Oops. Yeah Yeah So, yeah, yep Yeah, so And then one last one on the quick tips comes from listener Keith Who says, uh, I've had an apple tv since the first version upgrading whenever a new one came out And I've only just discovered this yesterday. Oh, oh, he says, uh, that Uh, oh, yeah, he says yesterday. I serendipitously dropped something on my samsung tv remote and It hit the pause button at the bottom I was playing something on my apple tv at the time And it paused after some experimentation I realized to my delight that the pause stopped forward backward navigation and enter keys on the samsung remote work with the apple tv I always assumed that they were there and would only work with samsung devices such as videos and you know dvd blu-ray players Etc. So I guess the apple tv has a built-in database of ir codes for different tv models and interprets them and works accordingly That is true Um, it's also what's that? Okay, well, but it's also possible that you're getting this through the Um, c ec the control channel via hdmi from your tv back down to your apple tv I think the apple tv will respond to those commands Uh, via the hdmi connection. So it's I don't know which is which but I I thought the apple tv could Could do the remote stuff or is that am I wrong about that john? Well, no it can so let me go into some detail. So I've I've dabbled with various um ir Toys over the years. So ir is infrared so it's a visible light That the controls for a lot of things use though not everything some use rf and like t-vote uses both actually um But here's the thing they share codes is is what's happening here. So so what happened here is that uh There was an overlap with On the one hand, there are like hundreds of different remote controls and there's a database of those codes That is true. But the thing is some a lot of them are shared um So you can reprogram for example, I remember this, you know, I uh the t-vote for example It's like well, hey, you know point your remote at this tv and do this and that and then, you know I'll learn what brand of tv you have and then I can control your other devices right Yeah, it could be um without having paired it though. I think it's actually doing it with hdmi cec Oh, okay. Yeah. I found a I found a um an article on apple site about hdmi cec I think that's how it's doing it could it could be doing infrared um Does the apple tv even support infrared though now that I say that it did Is there an ir port on it? Yeah, but I don't know if the new ones do they might Yeah, they do. Yeah. Yeah. I guess what I'm saying is that they do they do red is a weird world Yeah, for sure For sure. Um, no in that Once I spent the time my tivo remote controls All my other devices because you can set it up to do that you can say okay learn Or interact with another device and then figure out the protocol they're using It's kind of a mess, but when it works it works great. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I want to Send a big shout out of thanks to uh the folks some of the folks well all the folks really in our chat room at mackeygab.com Slash stream specifically feak and Clayton and bryan munro who all helped chime in and and get that information to you so that we didn't have to wait Until next week for a follow-up They may help make sure that we had that hdmi cec and infrared information So it it does the apple tv support both ir and hdmi cec and uh, and thanks to you guys we put some put some stuff there in the uh In the in the show notes. What do we call them at mackeygab.com? It's good stuff. Yeah Yeah show notes. Yeah show notes. That's what I hear. Yeah, uh, okay one uh speaking of follow-ups Let's do a quick follow-up from two shows ago, which comes from rob And back in show 742 he said I listened to it and your discussion about uspc devices, etc One bit I would like to add is that not all usbc cables are created equally Not just in terms of quality, but functionality as well Maybe other listeners were previously previously aware But I didn't realize there were usbc cables that could offer both maximum pd charging up to 100 watts And offer the fastest data transfer rates in the same cable in my research so far I have found two but tried only one one brand without complaint the j5 create Uh has individual serial numbers per cable. Yes, it might be more expensive than the usbc cable You were provided when you bought a device or can pick up just about anywhere But for the negligible amount of additional money in the grand scheme of things I prefer to buy just the best in class and be done with it so that I know regardless of what i'm connecting I'm seeing the fastest charging in or transfer speeds currently possible Since I use the j5 cables to connect a samsung t5 ssd to my 2018 macbook pro to charge my 2018 ipad pro Etc. I don't know about you, but I still find the current state of usbc to be a surprising hot mess For a connector that promises to rule them all and it is maddening enough to sort out device capabilities let alone Cable capabilities and I don't disagree So thank you for sending that in rob and and there's a cable this j5 create cable That that he sent him will put a link in the show notes. He also found one from anchor And uh And I think I think there's new usbc cables coming from anchor to I just got a note about that today And I think some might be on the way so Um So there you go We'll put links to those two in the show notes for sure. Um, and then uh, then he says A bonus tip best buy sells an 87 watt power delivery usbc wall charger that has the cable permanently attached and sells for only 40 bucks Instead of the 125 that you will pay apple uh for their adapter and cable I know it might be overkill for your macbook air But again, I prefer to buy ahead of the curve where possible even if it's overkill Yeah, it's not apple oem, but I don't think it has so much, uh, Chineseium in it that it isn't safe interesting term Uh, I consider it a great option for a spare charger or a charger to leave in locations where I don't use it as much Then we'll put a link to that in the show notes too Um, there you go 87 watt pd Uh usbc. So yeah usbc And I think you're safe as long again as long as you get something that's that's certified by you know some electric You know agency as opposed to not certified but Yeah, and it doesn't matter if it's you know, ul or the I forget what the european one is or whatever it is, but Um, but you know getting something that's certified. I think you're fine It doesn't need to be apple certified specifically. It's usbc. It's straight ahead as long as it's not Uh, you know just running willy-nilly. I think you're fine Right, but it's disturbing to hear advice on this nuance here because I remember When I got the usbc to lightning cable So I could do the pd charge on my iphone 8 Um, specifically I was advised through numerous channels and I believe them that only the apple cable can handle the So I guess it it it disturbs me that there are different capabilities on different cables to me. That's As it was pointed out. I don't think that's right Well, it I think that is one of those things that's currently true But changing right because the apple cables are the only ones that are certified at the moment but um, but there are Uh, and I'm looking through my email while we're talking here because Just they're really exciting to do the fast charge usbc thing. Yeah, but Anchors got some usbc um Cables coming but the usbc to lightning cables But but there are a couple of months off Like I think everybody is a couple of months off because we're waiting for apple's approval So that that starts to get interesting. Yeah, I'm just saying it's it's kind of weird Well, I mean it's lightning is the issue, right? It has to be apple certified And and this is why I'm I'm kind of bullish on usbc because it's like as we just said as long as it's usbc certified Then apple is adhering to the standard. You know, it's good to go. Everything just works, which is great. So yeah, it's good Good good. 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I love it when there's a cool stuff found that we have yet to talk about on the show And yet we use it for every episode and paul says, uh, I want to mention Version two of loopback from rogue amoeba Uh, he says the new interface makes it way easier to understand how sound is being routed And this is what loopback does we use it for the show here? uh, so I Let's see what's the best way to explain this. Oh, yeah So I I have to take, um, my audio right in my microphone and Our theme music or if we're playing audio comments or anything like that And I need to route that in such a way that not only can I record it for all of you But john needs to be able to hear it all too We use discord, but it doesn't matter if we use skype or whatever the same problems what needs to be solved Discord and skype have one choice for a sound input device So if I assign my microphone To the sound input on discord john would not hear any audio comments And if I wanted to have him hear audio comments or music or anything There's no sound input device That says take the sound from this application and route it there This is what loopback does it lets you create essentially virtual pipes Inside your mac, right? So what I do is I Output the sound from my audio app and and I and from my microphone. I route them Using audio hijack, but it could use anything I wanted really I route those into a loopback device It creates a virtual audio device shows up as both an input and an output And whatever I route into it comes out the other end and so that's what I put I put a loopback audio device into skype or discord as the microphone And now because I have two things routed into it my mic and the audio files when I play like the theme music or whatever it is I'm going to play Everybody hears it including john. That's what loopback does and if you if most of you will probably never need it That's great. If you need it man, it's the right tool to have so thank you Paul for reminding us to talk about that. It's pretty cool, huh john It's the inter tubes as they were meant to be it really is it's yeah Yeah, it's cool. It gives you more tubes, right? It gives you more tubes It does and you know, so I can play uh an audio file like well like this for example and and yet Everybody hears it I don't know where this came from So anyway, yeah, that's uh actual apple I don't know where that came from Somebody sent it to me or I found it somewhere. I don't know but um, but you couldn't do this on the apple too Maybe you could actually but loopback certainly didn't exist for the apple too. I like those those tricky sounds at the end That's pretty good. Anyway, thanks. Thanks paul good stuff Good. Yeah, moving on to the next one. Are we at uh, we are at the 43 minute mark is what we're at But uh, I'm going to move us to ollie because ollie Um, where are we ollie? I know. Oh, yeah. Oh ollie perfect example. Go for it ollie Hi, david john. This is ollie sending a message from the uk I just wondered if you've ever used the aces tour line of products at all I have the a6208 t And that works awesome as a nas drive and you can put multiple different size Drives in it. Um iron wolf pro I might go too dry for that Just wondering on if you've ever come across these before and if you haven't I would definitely recommend giving them a try Thanks there awesome show Thanks ollie. Yeah, I had never I didn't even realize that Asus or asus I never quite know how to pronounce that company's name Made I knew they made motherboards and routers because we've been aware of those for years What's that? It's right in front of me You have a display. Oh Yeah, they do make displays. I found that out at ces this year I I met with aces to to learn more about their routers and uh And then and then they showed me they have some killer displays coming And and but they didn't even mention these nas devices. So there you go. Yeah, I'm I'm as surprised as you are, but um Yeah, asus bryman row is saying and I think he's right. So yeah, yeah, I mean to meet up be there tubes But who cares as long as it's pretty and it's pretty right. See I love it. Anyway, so yeah, these nas devices So there you go. Thanks ollie. Yeah Yeah Oh wait, well, I think the notable Brian wait bryman row is is correcting me on something Oh This is not asus. It's it's a completely different company. It's a asus tour asus tor Thank you so much bryman row got it Now I know why I didn't realize this because it is two different companies Excellent. Yeah. Okay. That makes way more sense Asus tour asus tor got it. Thanks bryman row. Very good. Cool So it seems they're gig for their devices that some of them have a gig Or 10 gig on them. Okay. Yeah Yeah, but it looks like they've got a decent interface. It would be worth checking it out So we'll we'll reach out to them and and learn more and uh, we'll let you know how it compares with with Synology and qnap and all that stuff Yeah, cool This is why we love this show. It's great. We learn we learn too. There you go all right, uh One last cool stuff found Is well from david. Uh, he says a listener mentioned in the most recent episode 743 transcoding his Vts folders with handmade handbrake He says which I also use but when doing tasks like this in bulk bulk I he says I found a fork of handbrake called handbrake batch And handbrake batch was and I suppose still is a little app that can take multiple folders or multiple files And queue them up into handbrake for you but as of I think about two years ago handbrake included batch capabilities within it So that you can point handbrake at a folder and then you go to the file menu and say, you know process everything And it will let you do that. You have to put in wild cards for the file names We'll link to a tutorial as to how to make this happen Uh, it's it's from the person who used to make handbrake batch, but it hasn't been updated and I think it's four or five years now So, um, but it is a cool thing if you're doing lots and lots of stuff Knowing how to put handbrake into batch mode either with the native stuff or simply with Um with handbrake batch because it sounds like at least for david it still works just fine So there you go. Thank you, david. Good stuff fun Have you ever used batch mode on any any of that stuff chun? um Not handbrake. Okay Graphic converter. Oh, yeah. Yeah long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah When we were yes in the old days Yeah, lovingly hand crafting Our image pages. Oh, that was crazy. Yeah, we would do these We would use graphic converter like it when we were at mac world expo or other trade shows We'd take a bunch of pictures. Actually, I I you know Uh, we need to make sure you we have you do that next year for ces To do like a photo tour of of ces wherever you are each day. That would be cool Right, don't you don't you folks think that would be a cool thing to see? Because we can do that and and we don't need to lovingly hand craft html from a graphic converter batch conversion because um, you know, we have web engines Just built into wordpress that'll do that for us. Yeah, pretty sure wordpress has something. Yeah, it's totally fine It's it's fantastic. In fact, so you just upload them and say go But um, really do you think there's anything photo worthy at ces or in Las Vegas? I think I think people would love to see, you know, here's what here. Well, think about this, right? the difference between like the main expo hall Or even the sections of the main expo hall where the autos are versus where the TVs are versus where You know, the like the you know, iphone mac apple tech stuff is and then compare that to like the sands where In the basement is the What do they call it? Eureka park where all the crazy like early stage companies are and the booths are smaller and Like and even pepcom like we talk about going to pepcom and events like that People I think people would like to see what pepcom what pepcom looks like. So some of our colleagues such as uh, Allison chuck 10 more towards the video angle of things, but videos aren't the same Right videos. I mean they're doing interviews with videos. That doesn't necessarily give you a feel for like pictures Like a photo gallery can give you a feel for what things look like. Oh, I get it. Yeah. Oh, I think that would be great Now we'll uh revive that because yes, yeah I took a couple on instagram Yeah, get some group photos. Yay, I did do I did do one video Uh of the l I do it every year.  It was really quite spectacular uh, so what I've seen that they've also Showcase their technology at some of the cea events. Yeah, and as far as I can tell if you're talking OLED I think lg is They know what they're doing They do know as far as I can see and then I think they're one of the leaders in that in that space So if you're looking for an OLED TV, you know, check them out. Yeah, I'm just saying from what I've seen they're pretty They're pretty for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's gorgeous. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Cool. All right Let's see where we are at here. Oh, we we have a question Should we should we do a question? John? That'd be a good thing this this deep into the show Listener my answer is no mr. Michael All right says I use my early 2014 MacBook Air as something close to a desktop I leave it plugged into power over 90 of the time says and I use fruit juice to try and adhere to maintenance cycles That said, uh, I usually keep a two terabyte glyph drive plugged into one usb port Leaving me with a single additional usb port I'm constantly working with music and video files listening recording via a roll and octa capture interface Watching music teaching videos on dvds through usb apple drive, etc It seems like I am constantly pulling something out in order to add something new Then of course, there are times when I might want to watch a video But also get my carbon copy counter backup started yada yada My question is what is a good multi port adapter that I could use and thereby reduce some of the plugging and unplugging I do occasionally break the air free But most not necessarily all of the wired devices So I am okay with a portable hub that does not require power But one that's designed for desktops and thus does require power would still be okay, all right, so Here's the thing that air is If my my digging serves me and I think it does because I got it wrong and then got it right When I started digging on this has two usb three ports And and then it's got a thunderbolt port on it as well So a right not thunderbolt three, but thunderbolt. I think it's thunderbolt one, but the interface is the same So you have a couple of options um For if it's just us if if all you want to connect is usb Then I think a usb hub Would do it for you.  We'll we'll put a link to one But they've got you know amazon basics. In fact, in fact makes a Uh a series of usb three or and usb two hubs make sure you buy the usb three one They've got a four port for 17 bucks and a seven port for Whatever it is 32. So I mean these you know these things are relatively inexpensive. Um, yeah, just check the power You would hope that the power output would be Yeah Yeah, so the a certain level But just double check the power output to make sure that it's uh, it's enough for what you need to do I mean you could take okay the maximum power on usb three is this and that and that but you know Some vendors may uh skimp on that so and and take a look because I think the four port one from amazon basics We'll let itself be bus powered and I think the seven and the 10 both required Desktop power so you know or not desktop power separate power of their own With a you know, plug into the wall right and what we're saying is bus powered means the computer powers The hub whereas you could have an external wall wart as we love to call them, right day Yeah, that's what we call them. Yeah, yeah So uh, check that out before you get to hub. Yeah So this is this is a 24. This is not the new macbook here. This is the 2014 macbook here So it's anything but the new macbook here essentially is what this applies to So but but the other thing you need to be Aware of when you're doing this is that that Macbook has a single usb chip in it Okay, so if you are going to be doing a lot of data concurrently You may not Like even though you could get a 10 port hub and plug in lots and lots of things You may not get the bandwidth that you want or the Lower latency that you want especially if you're doing audio stuff or anything like that So you might want to add another usb chip to it. Well, how do you do that? Well, that's where thunderbolt comes in When you add a thunderbolt device, it's it brings with it its own usb chip Or perhaps two of them if you're getting it from the right vendor and they have enough ports on it to warrant that So I would if you're gonna do that I would lean towards Um, there's essentially two ways to go There's getting a thunderbolt dock that has usb and of course lots of other things or there's you know a thunderbolt dongle but really it's just a mini dock and uh You know, there's there's two that that I would recommend the first is the owc Thunderbolt 2 dock That will Have Its own usb chips in it. It will have And it's also got ethernet and you know everything else I've actually got one of those running down on the iMac in the office because it's Thunderbolt 2 and so it works great And but it may be more than you need it's two I think 249 or maybe 225 depending on how the pricing works out The other way to go if you just want another usb port But with its own chip Is the connects thunderbolt to usb and also gigabit ethernet adapter Um, I have one of these two I used it for years with my old macbook air when I traveled so that I had usb 3 and ethernet with me and it works great Um, I don't you know, it depends on what you need Um, it's a little bit cheaper. It's like, I don't know like a hundred bucks or something. So Uh, so there you go Right good Yes, John option. I know I'm with you. I know Oh It's crazy. I gotta get one of these docks. I haven't found a need but but I feel like I need to get one Uh, yeah, it's cool having these these yeah I can't imagine how you live with your mac mini without like a thunderbolt dock attached to it. That's crazy Well, I do have a usb Who is it? I'm sorry. I do have a uh six array port usb 3 hub, so I'm not I'm do good and it's powered cool. So cool Uh, yeah, all right All right, cool Uh, I didn't have to get that because I did not have enough ports and you know where that goes Uh, yeah, all right. Well, you're uh wrangling whatever you're wrangling. Yeah, I'm wrangling show notes and all that stuff What do you got there? Let me see. Who do I got here? Who's Then do I have Via labs Anyways, it's usb 3 so we're good. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it Coolio Cool, cool. All right. Uh, now that i'm finished wrangling the show notes mid show. Yep. Yeah Yep Okay, and then Um less has a question. Let's see Less We'll find it. I will find it. There he is He says when trying to use my at&t Uh, yahoo now owned by verizon mail account. I had to sign in using my email account and password I checked the box saying to keep me logged in for two weeks. However later that day I went to check my mail and it asked me to log in again I thought it was strange, but figured someone's servers were glitching Now the problem is happening with bank sites I log in with my username and password But I get the message that they don't recognize my computer and have to answer a question or get a text I'm using a macbook pro which I've had for about eight months and have paid many many bills through with these banks Can you think of a reason why my mac would randomly but frequently not be recognized? So You know, usually the way this works is those sites leave a cookie behind in your browser to recognize you So the first thing to look at is that right? Are you deleting your cookies or maybe running something? That's auto purging them or are you running in private browsing mode? Which doesn't let cookies persist past that session Right, or are you running? An uh blocker perhaps because that may filter cookies just saying right True very good point. Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah Yeah, yeah, that's the right thought. So the thing is yeah as Dave said Somebody saw something on your computer Saying hey, I know who you are, but if you come back and Or even if during that you you have Now could be an ad blocker. It could be some other sort of anti I mean, I don't know how far we can go here Dave, but um You know, I mean there's a lot of software that could block The placement of a cookie seeing it as a threat, but it's really not right Yeah Yeah, it could be I mean Yeah, that that would be the the first thing To check right is is what are you running? I mean you could boot in Safe mode That would be uh with that disable browser plugins Or browser extensions. I can't remember if that does or not john Yeah, or try it. Yeah try it. Well, you can always take a look right go into safari and go to Preferences in the safari menu and go to extensions and see what's running And if there's something there that looks like it might be trying to block things Well, you know, that's what you want to remove Right. I mean site stopping remembering the only other thing I could think of up top my head because I Log in from multiple devices. Have you logged in from multiple devices? It may be confused by you doing that? I don't know Yeah, yes Yeah, I don't know. It shouldn't be Yeah, I get it. But still I mean something so it's either something actively blocking the placement of the cookie or As he said, I mean this happens. I mean, I've had this happen too Where all of a sudden one of my bank sites or secure site says, huh? I'm like, yeah, whatever Yeah, I mean I see it when I log into a new one happening too often in which case Maybe somebody's like trying to hack you but then you would think your bank or whoever would be like well Yeah, we're Kind of working on that. I don't know. Yeah. No, I I think he's got a cookie problem because it's not just one Um, it's not just one site that he's having this with it's many sites So something is clearing out his cookies and you can check that, you know, if you visit a website Uh, and you go, I guess you have to turn on the safari develop menu menu to do this first Right, so go to safari preferences advanced And at the bottom of that screen turn on show develop menu and then You go to show well, I always I always go this way, but I think there's probably a better way to go is If you go to the develop menu and show page really doesn't matter Show page resources or show page source. It doesn't matter what you choose And then from that window Look at storage And in storage, you should see a folder on the left labeled cookies flip it open Click on the url for the bank you and you might only have one url there, but you might have multiples And that will show you the cookies that are there And it will also show you when they expire And this would be an interesting thing to check To see if those cookies are appearing And if they're persisting even you can also look Uh less so but you can look in safari preferences Privacy manage website data And you can search for your website there So if your bank is say city bank you'd type in city And you might see it city.com. It has cookies and databases and local storage Unfortunately, you can't see that here You can't see the details. You can just see that it's there or not But that would also be a handy thing to see if it's there you can remove them from here And maybe if it's corrupted that would work So You know and to wrap it all up Dave. Yes in the Develop menu If all is lost There's the empty caches selection. Oh, yeah because sometimes your caches get corrupted and What used to be right is not and you know, you just got to reset the caches Or empty the caches to get things in a right state I've seen it. You've seen it. You know, yeah. Oh for sure caches. I blame the caches Yeah, I don't I mean it right something's wrong So it could be anything and it could very well be caches, but I don't think it Like it's hard. It's always hard to trouble. What are you laughing about? What's the what am I missing? No, I'm just Laughing because I'm having fun and it's uh, oh, okay. I wasn't sure if I was missing something. Yeah. Yeah, okay. No No, my guess is as good as yours That's the thing is it's tough to to test it's tough to test remotely But but it doesn't feel like a caches thing this this very much feels like a cookies thing And it honestly feels like you're in private browsing mode now. I think your idea of it being Uh a plugin or an extension rather that is wiping these out that that would make a lot of sense And it is worth even if you're not having any problems just go into I think we said this a couple episodes ago Go into safari preferences extensions and just take a look at what's there. You might be surprised as to what you find Yeah, it's pretty crazy But if you weren't that's bad What's that if you are that's bad. That's true. Yeah, it's true. Let me see what's in Yeah, let's see While you do that, I want to talk about our third sponsor john, which is BB edit from bare bones software One of my favorite apps to use and it is one of the first apps I install and launch every time I boot my mac It's always running. We use it to kind of help with the post processing of the show notes They have their text factories in there. They have the ability to count words, of course As you probably know bb edit is was originally built for programmers and is still very much a tool That is used for programming all the time. It'll sense what language you are Coding in and it will softly highlight the text in different colors, but it doesn't actually change the text It's just doing it on the fly in the in the view window But when it saves files, they are just text files There's nothing special about them and that's a beautiful thing, but you can use it to open plist files. You can use it to Check for changes or differences between two files. 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Oh in the in the um It stopped working category We have cure it here with copy and paste that stopped working as he described He says since the mojave upgrade or around that time I have lost command c and command v functionality He says I think it has to do with some utility like copy paste pro or something I've deleted them, but it doesn't help. I've searched around. I've tried everything I've shut down the computer waited 30 seconds restarted it I've disconnected all third party peripherals. I've reset my max p ram and nv ram I've reset the system management controller. None of it changed it says I also did terminal and kill all p board Just in case paste board was still running and getting in the way Didn't work, but right clicking and choosing copier paste does work Please help So there's a couple things to try in the troubleshooting category I would say try booting in safe mode and doing this that'll rule out any third party stuff very easily Any third party extension that won't rule out third party hardware But it will skip all that extraneous and third party software on boot. So I would check that first um If it works in safe mode, then you know, it's a software issue Okay, and then something like lingon would probably be the thing I would go for And we'll put a link in the show notes to lingon lingon. I'll let you check all of the Sort of hidden, you know launch d related startup items and you might find something in there that uh That you say oh, I bet that's it And even when you think you've like if paste board is built to run all the time If you kill it it will relaunch and it will relaunch because launch d is telling it to So by disabling that if in fact, that's the problem with lingon it won't relaunch So that that's something to to bear in mind with all that stuff launch d is is very good at its job Even sometimes when you don't want it to be Um, so that's one thing if it doesn't work in safe mode though It's entirely possible That your modifier keys have gotten replaced or switched if you own a system preferences Keyboard modifier keys. There's a little button toward the lower right You can see that you can reassign cap slot control option command and function And you can swap them around and this is here because some third party keyboards In fact, there were a bunch of logitech keyboards for years were option And I think it was option in command, but it might have been option and control We're swapped on the keyboard And so when you hit control it would trigger option and option would trigger control So you just come in here and swap them everything's good Check this make sure the command key is the command key that might also be your issue Any other thoughts john Um, I think you're in the right place. So if you go to system preferences And then keyboard Look through the various panels Um, not just keyboard but text Probably not so much but shortcuts. Oh, yeah Sorry bless you just needs to act. It's okay. Thank you or guzhuntite So, um, especially in accessibility, there's a lot of weird stuff happening there but app shortcuts So anything that appears when you go to keyboard shortcuts on the left side there Just make sure something unexpected is not there. Um It's about it, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah For that but um, but I'm with you is that you want to boot in a known state and safe mode is is that and if it goes away then it's like self-inflicted All right, sorry about that john. What were you saying?  I was just saying, you know keyboard, you know, when you look at that section of system preferences There's a lot of different Options there that could bring you down the wrong path. So cool. Yeah, that's it Yeah, and and you know make sure Check the simple things because because command c works only because in the edit menu Command c is assigned to copy and command v is assigned to paste Just look in whatever app you're in and make sure that Command c and command v are what are assigned in the you know in the edit menu like that could be That could be an issue, right If it's if it's not if something else has taken over command c and command v in your menus or Somehow copy and paste have been relegated to command option c or something like that Or if you're running Like keyboard maestro that can get in the way of this stuff It shouldn't but I mean you can force it to you can tell it to get in the way of this stuff So that could be another one. Yeah Yeah Yeah, I would think safe Safe mode would as they claim should exclude any third party utilities. Yeah That oh definitely safe mode would would do it. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so there you go Good. All right Moving on to listener Jeff here. John because Jeff asks He says I've been using app delete for a while to clean up the remnants of deleted apps But it's kind of crashy and I have to make sure I launch it before deleting an app What are good and free slash inexpensive apps that do this job? Well Uh I I like two apps for it and neither of which is free But I think they're both reasonably priced for what they do Hazel is one Hazel does a lot of cool automation stuff. It basically Kind of takes over from where apple left us hanging with with watched folders But hazel also has an app delete engine and because hazel is running all the time When you delete something it just pops up and says hey, you just deleted this Do you want to delete all these files and you can pick and choose from there? So that's one and then clean my mac is the other That will you know help kind of purge all that stuff.   Well, of course they are because I'm just looking now on the update notice and november 18th Was the last update All right in which they updated it for mojave dark mode support because who doesn't want dark mode support Personally, I don't but I don't care. Sure And some other things But but it has smart features if you throw things away it will come up and say Oh, well, you want to get rid of this but you do you want to get rid of all these other kind of supporting files that Could clog your system and it does that so it has like a smart delete feature. So I like that so My hats off to them. Um That makes it. Oh gosh. Well app cleaner pulling to it. Cool. All right, cool Uh, let's see we have time for a couple of more. Um, I don't Think we have there's some apfs related questions that I I want to go through but I feel like we've We don't have time for that today. So we will save those for next week Um, we'll kind of go through Well, we got a couple others here Ken brings us an interesting Tip and a question. He says here's the tip Said my iphone 10 r recently locked up while trying to make a call The phone was not completely locked you could start some apps, but the phone could not be rebooted Nor could I get into settings a call to apple provided me A means of restarting the iphone and there is a special sequence that you have to go through on these non home button iPhones now in order to force them to restart And I highly recommend that in addition to listening to this sequence that we're about to tell you that you do it On your phone so that when the moment comes you have some semblance of muscle memory of having done this before So the idea is you tap Up volume down volume then hold the button on the other side So you're going to use all three buttons on the phone You go up down and then hold So it's and that's really it tap up tap down and then hold the other one until the phone reboots and you get the apple logo And I tried it and now hopefully since I've done it and set it a few times When the moment comes I will be able to do this But I have a feeling I'll forget so there you go Up down hold the side There you go That's the tip Ken's question is he says I've been receiving text messages, but occasionally there is no notification No buzz no musical sound no no noise no nothing The message is there, but who would know that is until one looks at the phone for some other reason It says this happens whether the sender is on an ios device or not. So iMessage or or you know just regular sms He says any thoughts that's a I I don't I know i've seen this occasionally I I don't see it enough that I would consider it a problem But I occasionally do look at my phone and it's like oh Huh there's some notifications that I know would have made a think Now if the phone is in do not disturb or if you're in theater mode or anything like that with your apple watch Obviously, well, maybe not obviously that will keep those notifications from buzzing you If you have an apple watch And it buzzed your watch and it thinks it buzzed your watch It will not buzz your phone If you have a mac that is connected to these things and it thinks that it has notified you on your mac It will not buzz your phone The idea is that apple really only wants to buzz you once and it tries to do it on the device that you are On at the time now that May be the reason for some of this confusion if it thinks oh if your mac was awake, but you walked away Maybe it thinks you're still there. Maybe it thinks you have attention for a few more seconds or whatever the message comes in I think this is the the root of this issue Is having multiple devices and apple trying not to have all your devices light up at once I will take this by the way because we use slack a bunch for for all the companies that we have And you can set slack to be more or less aggressive about its notifications I have it set to be fairly aggressive and There are many times throughout the day where my phone will buzz After I've seen a message in slack on my you know like on my mac or whatever And and it's sort of you know, it's like what is my oh no, I've already seen that okay fine So I kind of like that apple's trying to do this but obviously that's there's nothing perfect. I don't I don't think I don't think there's anything you can do to fix this can I think this is part of the deal Unless you just don't sign your mac into iCloud and have it do your messages or whatever But that's probably not a trade you want to make certainly not a trade I would want to make so there you go I still can't get slack to work right Okay notifications from you and and the staff on my iphone. Yeah, I can't get them on my mac My mac pro. I don't know Huh, I said I wish you I wish you had told me this at ces because we could have gone through it There are some interesting things with slack In terms of getting because because you can have different um Rules for notifications on mobile versus desktop. I'm almost certain I've set them up right in the you know, I've gone to the Page and said, you know send it to me on my mac and it's like it just won't Is slack running on your mac? No, but that's why it isn't running on my phone. Yeah, it is well that but your phone's different But no, but I get notifications on my phone Correct. I don't get them on my computer if you're if slack's not running you won't get them on your computer Because your mac doesn't support those types of push notifications that way Well, that explains that Okay. Yeah, you gotta you gotta have slack running on your mac in order for those notifications to show up Yeah, but I don't need to On my iDevice Correct because your iDevice gets pushed. That's exactly what I've said. That's correct. Yeah Yep Yep, so yeah, just leave slack.  You got it. Yep Leaky leaky leaky. It's leaky leaky. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the solution is to run an app that Oh, that's just so sad. No, it's great. I I haven't said no But it's but it's sad it is but but it works very well and solves this problem But it solves the problem. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it shouldn't be a problem that needs to be solved Yep. Yeah for sure. 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That's what I love about it It's like I try But I do see things that are tagged that I'm tagged in and messages and I do try to get in there At least once a day to kind of Go through and and see what's going on But you folks are answering questions before we can even get there. It's awesome. Someday john will participate in the forums I swear to you this will happen. I mean, it's my mission in life. So if you could help my bucket list Yeah, yeah, there you go. Good Uh, check it out make you get mac geek gab comm slash forums. That's easy for me to say Uh, let's see. What else do we have? 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Hey guys, what's up? It's Andy Elliott. In this video, I'm gonna show you how when a customer says the payment's too high, I'm gonna show you how to close along the payment that you want them to be at, and they're gonna be happy with it. Watch this video from the beginning all the way to the end. It'll help you during your negotiating and closing, and if you learn it word for word, it'll change your life. Check it out. That's it. Did you see how I replayed it back, took it away, pushed them to the side, then came back in? Look, I'm gonna tell you guys this. Paint freaking pictures. Your goal is to not ask for more money. Don't ask. If you have to ask for more money, it means that you've exhausted lots of different areas. And by the way, sometimes you will have to ask. But the idea of it is, is that what my ask needs to be, is not 500 more in payment. My ask needs to be for 100 more. I need to cover the other 400 through money justification. Presenting the warranty close. Presenting the warranty close. Guy comes in, trading a truck in, right?  Guys trading a 2016 F-150. Look, 2016 F-150. And let's say it's got 85,000 miles on it. Okay? Guy's paying 400 a month. He's buying a 2012, or I'm sorry, a 2021 Ford F-150. Okay? And let's say the payment's gonna be 650 a month. And the guy says I'm not, a brand new one. And he says I'm not paying a penny more. Period. Like I'm not going up the penny. My payment's going up. I'm not gonna buy. You guys ever hear that? My payment's going up. I'm not gonna buy. Okay? I'm not going over this. I'm not going over that. Every day, okay? Guess what happens? When that happens, is gas better from here to here? No, it's not. I mean, it may be a tiny bit different. But the idea of it is gas really isn't going up. The only way that you're gonna save this deal is by doing what? Warranty close. Okay? I'm gonna explain something to you. You have to be extremely good. Who's in finance? Is anybody in finance in here? Anybody, dog? Okay, you? Okay? All right. Watch this. You selling tangibles. Am I right? You guys are good at selling cars. Hey, look at my car. Look, look at my car. Then you go inside. You're sitting here. Guys like, dude, I told you, I'm not paying a penny more than 400. I'm not doing it. Guess what? How do you close them on 650? Well, it's really easy. You can save it like everybody else and their dog. Hey, guys, it's a brand new truck. I mean, come on, brand new truck, $250 more. That's a good deal. You know? It's like, come on, man. Why don't you close me? Why don't you make it my idea? Make it easy to stay asked to. Hard to say no to and make it my idea every single time. So, how do you do it? Well, number one, you do it with this right here. You do it with your hand and your pen. Yeah, this is your sword right here, okay?  Look, I'm going to explain this to you. I don't know what kind of structure you have in your life. I don't know what it looks like. But you better be able to write, okay? And for those of you in here who don't have nice handwriting, I'm sorry. You need to get better handwriting, okay?  Dude, listen. A closer is a person who can close off a deal, okay? Your goal is, when you close it off, to close it with as much profit as possible. Why is this called a master closer seminar? Because look, there's two types of closers. Actually, there's three. One, a closer is a guy that can close a deal, but he doesn't close it for all the money. He's always negotiating debt. Guy walks out, he says, hey man, I closed that deal. I closed that deal. Man, you didn't close that deal for all the money, okay? I saw you. $599, you got it down to $500. Yeah, you closed it.  He'll close it at $599. He closes it, and he closes it for all the money. A grand master closer, this is my favorite, is the person that can go into any situation even when it's on fire. You know what that means? That means like, guy's blown out, right? Blown out. Guess what happens? You slide in, hey, guys, what's going on? My name's Andy. Look, I just want to show you something for 10 seconds, and if you want to leave, I'm okay with that. It doesn't matter. I want to show you something real quick, and you get in, and you close it down, and they love you for it, okay? And you close it for all the dough. That guy can write his own check in this room. That guy can walk into any dealership, and they'll say, hey, listen, I'll close every door, every deal in your store. They come in here, I'll close them. They call the phone, I'll close them. I don't care. I need a hundred grand, but I'll close them all. I mean, I'll make an extra 600 grand a month. I'll close them all, and if you could do it, they would pay you that hundred grand because it would make the company so much money. Guys, I understand this. Being able to close and talk about money is probably one of the most important things in the world. And by the way, I mean, it's all important in the beginning, right? I said a great closer starts right off the hand, making sure that somebody wants to deal with you.  You know what I'm sorry? I can only afford 400. I can't afford a penny more. Hey, I totally understand. Let me show you how affordable your new vehicle is. You flip it over. When you did, you're right. Old truck right here. Old truck, 400, right? New truck, 650. Guys, just like that. It's always the same. It never changes. It's the same way every time. Flip and write. Flip and write. When you flip it, what will you say? Number one, we always want to state the facts. Look, Mr. Customer, on your old vehicle, it's got 80,000 miles. The fact is, it's 2016. You currently have no warranty. That's it. You write it down. It's very simple. Sir, the national average, what it costs to maintain the vehicle, it's currently out of warranty as well. Well, that's going to give me 200. Dude, let me get this through you guys's head for a second.  Or a car to fix a car. Dude, if anybody's ever had a car in the service station, what does it cost per hour to fix a vehicle? What does it cost? 100 to 150? Okay, cool. Look, should you know what it cost per hour in your service station? Okay, so everybody's 150 to 200. Am I right? Okay, look, let me draw a little quick picture for you, okay? Sir, the average customer has their car in service for at least four to five hours when they bring it in. For just a small problem. It's $200 an hour. $200 an hour, five hours, that's $1,000. The average part costs $500 to $750.  Okay, I can tell you this, that with your new vehicle, you will never have to worry about what those costs are because you will have none of those costs. How does that make you sleep good night? Great, right? If a motor went out of your truck and it costs $10,000, I'm gonna ask you a question. Even if you put a $10,000 motor in it, would it make your truck work more money? No, your truck's only worth what it's worth as long as it has a running motor. So, you'd spend $10,000 on something that wouldn't become worth more money and you'd waste $10,000. Let me ask you another question. Whether you had the $10,000 or whether you had to go borrow the $10,000, right? Was it still your money? Yeah, if you went and borrowed it, let's say you had a $250 payment on it. Well, now you're paying $250 bucks a month just for a motor that's in the truck that doesn't make it worthy more money. Wouldn't you like to put your money to something that's actually in a hole that's collateral and that would protect you? Look, sir, I'm going to tell you this. At the end of the day, at the end of the day, watch it. I'm just talking to you. I'm not even writing right now. At the end of the day, let's say you drove out of here, right? And you didn't own any truck. None. You're truck free. You don't have one.  Andy, would you show me the deal on both of them? I'd be absolutely, I'd love to. So, I'd show you the deal on your old truck, which is what? I'm going to be straight with you. It's got a $400 payment to the bank, but you're going to pay $300 a month or $250 a month. Maintaining it because it doesn't have a warranty. They're really expensive to fix. And by the way, if something like a mower goes out, it'll be way higher than that. So, bottom line is, is total ownership cost between payment and maintenance is going to be $650 a month on your new truck.  But guess what? You have a $650 payment, but the maintenance payment is going to be nothing. At the end of the day, it's going to cost $650 a month on. If you were here and we were talking to your bank account, which we are, and your bank account said, well, what about trucks cost? They're both $650. Which one would you own? The old truck? The 2016, the $85,000 miles? Or the new one? The zero miles? You don't own the new one, right? Congratulations. That's when I'll get cleaned up for you. That's it. Did you see how I replayed it back, took it away, pushed them to the side, then came back in? Look, I'm going to tell you guys this, paint freaking pictures.