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Well, happy August weekend, Radiant Church. Jane and I are so glad to be back. We had a couple of great weeks of vacation, but we missed you guys, and we missed those of you who are over at the Portage campus. Actually, this month I met so many people from the Portage campus, just randomly coming up to us all over town. So it's exciting what God is doing over there with Pastor Stefan and Candace and the team over there. God is on the move in our city, amen? And I'm excited because this weekend, we are beginning a brand new series that's gonna carry us through the first part of September called Tuned In, and we're gonna be talking about how to hear the voice of God, how God speaks to us. And for some people, this is kind of a controversial idea, the fact that God speaks, or the fact that God would maybe speak to some people, but speak to all of us, that God wants to have a dialogue and not just a monologue. I know that all of us come from a lot of different environments and different kinds of religious background. Some of us maybe have never grown up in church and have no idea that this is even a controversial idea, but there are some circles where the idea that God still speaks is a big theological obstacle. But here's what I would say, I think for all of us at one time or another, it doesn't matter how long you've been in this game of following Jesus, learning to identify in here and understand how God speaks to us is more of an art than it is a science. How many would affirm that and say in your own personal life, learning to hear God speak to you in the different ways that God speaks to you, obviously through the Bible, but that's just one of the many ways that in the Bible, God spoke to people.  No, God, the Holy Spirit and God the Father and God the Son never violate the scriptures, the Bible, the word of God. The Bible is the foundation of our lives, but out of what God has spoken in truth in the scriptures, God wants to continually speak to us throughout every day of our life. And so over the course of the next several weekends, this is what we're gonna be talking about called tuned in and this incredible radio was my father-in-law's radio and we've had it in our basement for several different years, but how many grew up with a transistor radio or actually a radio that was not digital, you actually had to dial. You had the old school dials, okay? So I had a Philco transistor radio when I was a kid and I also grew up in an era where if you wanted to change the channel on the television you had to actually get up out of your seat and walk to the television council. And because I was the kid in the family that was my job, I was the remote control. So dad would say change the channel and it didn't take much because we only had three channels. But I spent a lot of time in my room with my transistor radio. It had two bandwidths. It had AM and it had, thank you. And in Grand Rapids, the station I like to listen to on AM was Wood and the FM station was 98 WGRD. WGRD, 80s rock, big hair, baggy jeans, shoulder pads, and total etabular music. I would sit in my room and listen to GRD because it was a really strong signal. But then I discovered AM and there was some talk show and so you had to work really hard at dialing in, adjusting the antenna just so in order to get the frequency. And so it took work, it took energy, it took focus to dial it in because just like in this room right now, there are all kinds of sound waves, radio frequencies that are moving through this room that you don't see and you're not interacting with. If you were to turn the radio on and adjust it to the right frequency at just the right angle with the antenna, with the right amplification and strength, you can pick up those frequencies that are communicating information, songs, sports programming, news. And they're in this room right now but it takes a tuner and somebody to tune it into the right frequency to actually be able to interact with it. Now, here's why we've called it tuned in and it's this, it's because God is a God of dialogue.  And if you've never grasped that idea or you've struggled with that or you say, you know what, I've never heard God speak, we're gonna talk about some of those realities and we're gonna unpack what it means to really hear from God but here's what it's really all about over the next several weeks is we wanna help you learn how to tune in because just because you've never heard it or you may not think you've ever heard God speak or interacted with your creator, I want you to know that doesn't mean that he isn't communicating with you, just means we've gotta tune our soul and our spirit in to be able to hear the voice of God. And then in a couple of weeks, we're gonna have prophetic presbytery.  Now God's, that's not how prophecy works.  It's always to encourage you, it's always to strengthen you. God's not going to call your sin out, trust me. I'm asking you to trust me as your pastor when we have prophetic weekend, if this is new to you, that it's not gonna be weird, it's not gonna be hokey, it's not gonna violate scripture and it's not going to call out your sin.  I might, God won't. So I'm kidding, all right. Everybody, turn with me in your Bibles to first Samuel chapter three. First Samuel chapter three. This weekend's message is really just an introduction to the idea that God still speaks. God still speaks. And I want to draw your attention to first Samuel chapter three because this is a Old Testament story. I know all summer we've been going through heroes of the Old Testament. Well, this weekend we're gonna talk about another one and his name is Samuel. And Samuel's name actually means the Lord hears and the Lord speaks. Samuel was a child that was miraculously conceived in response to his mother named Hannah's prayer and petition of God. God gave her a son, she made a commitment that I will lend him to the Lord. I will give him back to you if you'll give me a child. She was barren and miraculously God gave her a child and she brought this child named Samuel to Eli who was the priest at the house of God, the tabernacle, where the Ark of the Covenant was, the presence of God was. And when he was old enough, she gave him to Eli to train up so that he could serve in the house of the Lord. This that we're about to read the very first 10 verses is talking about how Samuel encountered the voice of God for the very first time. Verse number one of chapter three, it says, now the boy Samuel was ministering to the Lord in the presence of Eli. And the word of the Lord was rare in those days and there was no frequent vision. At that time, Eli whose eyesight had begun to grow dim so that he could not see was lying down in his own place. The lamp of God had not yet gone out and Samuel was lying down in the temple of the Lord where the Ark of God was. Then the Lord called Samuel and he said, here I am and ran to Eli and he said, here I am for you called me. But he said, I didn't call, lie down again.  But he said, I didn't call you my son, lie down again. Now Samuel did not yet know the Lord. That's something worth underlying. Samuel did not yet know the Lord and the word of the Lord had not yet been revealed to him. Verse number eight, and the Lord called to Samuel again the third time and he arose and he went to Eli and he said, here I am for you called me. And then Eli perceived that the Lord was calling the boy.  And so Samuel went and he laid down in his place and the Lord came and stood calling as at other times, Samuel, Samuel and Samuel said, speak for your servant hears. Some interesting historical dynamics were taking place right there. Eli was a man who had been a judge over the people of God for many, many years. But as we just read, his eyesight began to dim. It's interesting that there was a correlation between the fact that it was rare in Israel at this time for people to have visions like many of the prophets before that had come. You know, Israel was established on a prophetic ministry under Moses and it was carried on. But there came a time where that really slowed down because people weren't seeking the Lord. And so there wasn't a widespread reception of the word of God and there wasn't vision. Eli probably represented the closest thing to a prophet, but even in the natural, his own eyesight began to grow dim. And now he's older, he's kind of corrupted in his heart a little bit and he's got this young man who is dedicated to serving the Lord named Samuel that he's taking care of. And they live in the tabernacle. They live in the house of the Lord. It's like living in church. So he's kind of training him to serve the Lord. It says he doesn't know the Lord, but he's serving the Lord, which means he's volunteering. He's a part of team rating. He's showing up, he's doing sound. He's helping with the offerings and different things like this, but he's new to experiencing or encountering the Lord. He doesn't have a personal relationship with the Lord. And at night he lays down and it's interesting, he says he's laying close to the Ark. Proximity leads to intimacy. And so as he's laying down next to the Ark, the Lord speaks to him, but he hears the Lord, but he doesn't understand that it's the Lord. How many parents in here, sometimes you can shout for your kids in the other room and if it's dinner time, they come running, but if you're shouting to your kids to go clean your room, they act like you're 100 miles away.  And then there's times where when you're speaking to them in the other room and they find out something good is going on, man, they can hear every little one. What did you say? What's going on with so and so? I mean, it's amazing how kids' hearing changes, how tuned in they get, depending on what you're talking about. Samuel is this young man and he hears the voice of the Lord, he's confused, Eli sends him back. And then ultimately, Eli figures out what's going on. God is encountering Samuel, this young man, he's revealing himself to Samuel and he's speaking to him. And how many know? God knows that Samuel doesn't know his voice. He knows that there's confusion in his heart, but he's speaking to him. And what he's looking for is two things. Number one is he's looking for understanding that Eli would help him understand that it was God that was speaking to him because he heard things, but he didn't understand what they were. And number two, he's looking for a willingness to receive what he's about to say. And that's the response. Here I am, Lord, your servant is listening. I think that the day in which you and I live in is very, very similar to the days of Samuel and Eli because in some ways, we're a very distracted generation and culture of people where there's so much noise around us. I don't think it's that God's not speaking to us. It's just that we're not so good at tuning in to the voice of God by tuning other things out. And so because of that, there's kind of a drought for the word of the Lord and for spiritual direction. This whole idea that God would speak to us, look, there are a lot of people would say, well, I believe that God spoke in the Old Testament and obviously God spoke in and through Jesus and the apostles but I don't know that God speaks to us anymore like that. There's lots of different reasons why people believe that but here's what's important for us to understand.  And I believe the reason why God speaks to us and why it's necessary for each and every one of us to know how to hear and to understand how God is speaking to us and when God is speaking to us is because God's voice is the single most important factor in your life and fulfilling the purpose for which you were put on this planet. You're not just put on this planet to kind of make it up as you go along and hope that when you get to heaven, God will say, hey, that was pretty good. I mean, it's kind of like a craft project. God sent you to earth with some glitter, some Elmer's glue, construction paper and let's see what they come up with. No, the Bible says in Ephesians 2, 10 that you're his workmanship, that he has good works and a good plan for your life that he prepared before the foundations of the world. Here's my question for you. If God has an intricate blueprint for your life and my life, how in the world will we ever know that we're fulfilling it if God only speaks to us in generalities that seven billion other people can claim as their own? We need the voice of the Lord. Samuel needed the voice of the Lord, but he had to learn it and he had to receive it and embrace it. You see, the reason why God is not on mute is because from the very beginning of how God reveals himself, he's a God who speaks and the very first chapter of the Bible says in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth and God said, what did he say? Let there be light. God said, God spoke. Do you know that in the very first chapter of the Bible, Genesis chapter one and Revelation chapter 22, the last chapter of the Bible, it shows God speaks and Revelation 22 it says, and the spear and the bride say, come. God speaks in the beginning, God speaks in the end and God speaks all the way through the Bible. Here's why. Speaking is not just something that God does.  What's the first line of the Lord's prayer? Come on, we all learned it, at least the first line. What is it? Come on, our Father who art in heaven, stop with the first two words, our Father, not just our Creator, our Father. Why is that significant? Because a Father is relational. The very first thing Jesus teaches his disciples about prayer is that if you're going to pray, you need to relate to God as a Father and what that implies is communication, intimacy, closeness. God wants to know you.  Now God is a Father, He gets down on His knee and He talks with us at every different level of our life.  But all the way throughout the pages of scripture, God reveals Himself part of His nature as that He's a God who speaks.  Think about these scriptures. I'm gonna read several of them to you, but here's what Jesus said about you and I in our relationship with God and the voice of God. John 8.47, he says, whoever is of God hears the word of God. You hear the words of God. In John 10, verses four through five, he says, when He brought out all of His own, He goes before them. It's part of a story about the shepherd and His sheep referring to God and you and I. He says, He brings them out, He goes before them and the sheep follow Him for they know His voice. A stranger, they will not follow, why? But they will flee from Him for they do not know the voice of strangers. John 10, verse 14 through 16, he says, I am the good shepherd. This is Jesus, I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me. Just as the Father knows me and I know the Father and I have other sheep that are not of this fold, I must bring them in also and listen and they will listen to my voice. John 10, verse 27, my sheep hear my voice and I know them and they follow me. In Matthew, during the temptation of Jesus in the wilderness, he quotes the Old Testament when he's tempted. He says, man does not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God. Notice this, Jesus said, my sheep know me and they know my voice. He didn't say they know my book. You see, the book echoes the voice of God but God, as Jesus said, has a proceeding word that you need every day of your life. Not just a word that was spoken one time but just like a child needs the voice of their father, you and I need a constant ongoing communication with God. Why is it so difficult for us to fathom that the God who created the vastless universe would want to and have the capability of speaking to us? I was watching the news reports after Joy Behar on the view, you know, ripped our vice president who said that God spoke and called it mental illness. Oh, God speaks to you? Why? I mean, why is that so unfathomable? If God really is a creator, if he has all power and he reveals himself as a father and he loves us and you and I have a spirit created in his image, why would God not take advantage of that? Why would God not do that? What kind of a father gives birth to a child who stands back and go, now I'm never gonna speak to you again? I mean, can you imagine a kid running, a kid running into the living room where a dad was and say, dad, dad, what do you think about this in that color? And he goes, and five years ago, he wrote down on a piece of paper, it says, I love you. So every time the kid comes in, he goes, dad, dad, today I graduated from high school. He just holds it up. Ari said it. Just repeating what I said a long time ago. It's still true. Yeah, no, but the child wants to hear the son wants to hear the dad today say, I'm so proud of you today. You see, we gotta get over a lot of kind of the misconceptions and fears that we have about the fact that God speaks to us. God wants to speak to us for two reasons. Number one is, Jesus said, he's the good shepherd and we're sheep. And here's why sheep know the shepherd's voice. It's because a shepherd is the first voice that a baby lamb hears when it's born. Because the shepherd's the one that helps the mother give birth to it. So the baby lamb comes out there and it's the shepherd that embraces it and speaks. It's the first voice and it bonds. Scientists say that both in children and in the animal kingdom, infants bond and are marked indelibly by the voice of their parents. They know that voice. So the first reason is because you is a sheep.  You know the voice of your parents when you came up.  You know the voice of your dad when Jane was pregnant with our kids. Actually, Ashley, this is before the days of ultrasounds, we thought Ashley was a boy. We had a whole different name. So we referred to her as him and probably confused her. But I mean, I would talk to her every single day and tell her how much I loved her. And so when I'm holding her in my arms for the very first time, she wasn't startled by my voice. Why? It's because from the moment of her conception, all the way through her process of development, I was speaking my love over her. So when I actually held her in the moment of her birth, it was not surprising to her. That's why the voice of God is so significant and important. I know sometimes we think to ourselves, well, that could be kind of weird because anybody could say that God said anything to them.  God didn't tell you to go down to the bar and hook up with Mr. Cowboy with tattoos, full sleeve of it, who's not serving Jesus and the Lord just gave me such peace about it. No, that was the devil and your own lust. Don't make me come down there and preach. Don't portage, don't make me come over there. And listen, we have to make sure that the scripture is the foundation that we build our life upon just like marriage vows are what we build our marriage on. But you don't say, hey, I said everything I need to say to you when we got married, Jane, 26 years ago, I said, for better or for worse, till death do us part in sickness and in health, that should be enough. And now we don't communicate anymore. It's just, that's just the way that it is. Now, we build a marriage on the commitment of the vows, but we build the intimacy by ongoing communication. So how in the world did hearing the voice of God become so controversial? Because listen, hearing the voice of God should not be exceptional. It should be the normal Christian experience. Relationship automatically equals communication. You don't have a relationship without communication, think of one relationship that you have that is not based on communication. I'm not talking about your fifth grade crush, where it's like you wrote a note, it's like, do you like me? Yes, no, maybe. And you went steady with that girl for six months and never spoke to her because you became boyfriend and girlfriend through a cootie catcher before a roller skating party and you were so nervous you could never talk to her. I'm not talking about that relationship. I'm talking about any other relationship. Imagine never communicating. Intimacy comes out of proximity, which develops and strengthens us. 15 times in the New Testament, Jesus said this, he who has ears, let him hear. And the ears that he's talking about are spiritual ears. Ears of our soul because rarely does God speak in an audible fashion that we can hear with our natural ears. Now it happens. It's never happened to me, but most of the time when God speaks to us, he speaks to us in our spirit. He speaks to us in an internal audible voice. He speaks to us through his word, through promptings, through leadings, through other people. And if we're looking for God to speak audibly, well, you know, those are gonna maybe be very few and far between, but the reality is Jesus, when he says he who has ears to hear, let him hear. He's talking about that you and I have inner ears of our spirit just like we have eyes of our heart that need to be opened up. And that's what over the next several weeks we're gonna be talking about. How do we get ears to hear what God is saying to us? In a world where there are so many voices that are vying for our attention and trying to say things to us, and there's voices of people on social media, there's voices in the realm of the demonic and God the Father is speaking to us. We even speak to ourself.  Be honest. I mean, you ever do that and then realize somebody's watching you? He loves us. Yeah, you bust out into your best column. He stows it from us, precious. People think you're half crazy. Maybe you are. Okay, so why is the idea that God still speaks to us so controversial? Let me give you three reasons and these are gonna be quick. The first reason why in our day the idea that God speaks to us is controversial is number one, philosophical. You see, you and I are children of the Enlightenment, the Renaissance period of time that produced something called modernism. The Enlightenment shaped Western civilization and crafted and created a very critical, scientific, modernistic worldview that basically said this, the only things that are real are those things that are measurable by our five senses. Touch, taste, feel, smell, and hearing. So if we can subject it to the scientific method and verify that it's real, then it's real. It's kind of like one of the philosophers out of the Enlightenment said this. He says, I think, therefore I am. Because I am self-aware, then I exist and I am a person. And modernism basically said that the only things that are real are the material world. And you and I have been shaped and we've been crafted by modernism. So we have a philosophical grid that we have been raised, educated, trained, entertained and socialized around. We are children of the Enlightenment. We are modern human beings. That's why we call ourselves sophisticated, Western civilization. That's just who we are. That's why there's such skepticism and doubt about anything that cannot be verified by the scientific method. And so when you begin to talk about God, even the existence of God, people will say, well, prove the existence of God. Well, what you're wanting God to do is jump into your Petri dish and subject him to your five senses. When God, God is the God who created over 100 billion solar systems just within our galaxy and over 110 billion galaxies outside of ours that are expanding at the rate of 160,000 miles per second, which is the speed of light. God's not getting into your Petri dish. So modernism has told us, well, the whole idea of God is really stretching. That's just a fantasy. And then if you wanna push it that even within the Christian realm, we say, well, God speaks to us. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Come on, now God wrote a book. God doesn't speak to us anymore. He gave us the Bible and he said, just read that and I'll be back in a little while. Don't mess things up too far. The second reason why the idea of God still speaking is so controversial is theological. So this is talking about us. This is our camp. This is family. The church, Christianity. Why is it so controversial? Because the Enlightenment actually produced the Reformation and out of the Reformation came a school of thought called cessationism. And what cessationism says is that when God was done inspiring the writers of the Bible, God stopped speaking and stopped doing miraculous things. Healing, miracles, casting demons out, angelic visitations, all of those types of things. The voice of God speaking and leading and guiding us. God doesn't do that anymore because God wrote a book. And it produced in Western civilization because the Reformation primarily affected the United States of America, England and its colonies and Europe, Western Europe. That's Western civilization. It produced a cessationism. Cessationism, the idea that God ceased doing those things was actually a fearful response to the indulgences of the established Catholic church that was taking it too far. So they said, we're not gonna do that anymore. So the scriptura, which means God only speaks through scripture, period. Well, that's not even biblical. The Bible you say is enough period actually says I'm not enough period. Because Jesus said to the Pharisees, you study the scriptures thinking that in them you're going to find me and actually I'm here and you've missed me. So it produced a theological bent that so much of the body of Christ struggles with. And here's what I want you to understand. Because it affected primarily Western civilization that makes North American context our primary focus here. We only make up 20% of Christianity global. 80% of Christians on the planet aren't Americans aren't subjected to a modernistic enlightenment cessationist worldview. Do you know that in 1901, there were less than 100,000 Pentecostal Charismatic Christians globally that could be recorded. Today is fastest growing movement on the planet. 665 million people that believe in miracles that God still speaks that have had angelic encounters and visitations that have seen miracles, people being raised from the dead and who would verify God still speaks to us today. So God is on the move in spite of our theological issues. Let me give you the third reason why some would say God's still speaking is controversial and it's practical. It's not philosophical, it's not theological. It's practical, what do I mean by that? Religious tradition has extinguished our expectancy. Religious tradition has extinguished our expectancy. I went to a Bible college that I similarly got kicked out of after a little while, year and a half. That's a whole nother story. I didn't do anything wrong. But I was asked to leave because I believed God still speaks and God still does miracles. They said, we don't want anybody graduating with a theology degree from our institution who believes that God still does those things. And so I had to leave and it was interesting to me.  It's like, I'm mad at you. God doesn't do that anymore. Here's what I want you to think about for a second. The New Testament tells us that the new covenant that we have with Jesus is a superior covenant to the old covenant. How can you have a superior covenant with inferior communication? You can't. A. W. Tozier wrote this years and years ago. He said this, he says, I believe that much of our religious unbelief is due to wrong conceptions of and a wrong feeling for the scriptures of truth. A silent God suddenly began to speak in a book and when the book was finished, lapsed back into silence again forever. Now we read the book as a record of what God said when he was for a brief times in a speaking mood. With notions like that in our heads, how can we believe? The facts are that God is not silent, has never been silent. It is the nature of God to speak. The second person of the Trinity is called the Word, the Bible, the inevitable outcome of God's continual speech. It is the infallible declaration of his mind for us put into a familiar human words. I think a new world will arise out of the religious mist when we approach our Bibles with the idea that it is not only a book which was once spoken, but a book which is now speaking. You see, there's nobody that I know of in this room, maybe you, who loves the Bible more than I do. I love the Bible. I am, this message is not to lower the value of God's Word in written form at all.  I've read it every day of my life with very few exceptions since 12 years old. I've read it through dozens of times. I've memorized chunks of scripture. I think about it. I get cranky and hangry when I have not read my Bible. Just ask my wife, I love the Bible, study the Bible, love theology, I am a nerd. But let me tell you something. The same Holy Spirit that inspired, inspired the apostles and the prophets to write the pages of scripture, the infallible and errant Word of God is the same Holy Spirit that lives in me and he's not silent. So when I read the Bible, I pray every day is this, Holy Spirit, open my eyes, open my ears so that as I read what you have perfectly given to us, I will hear today, which is my daily bread, what you are saying to me today.  You see, over the next couple of weeks, we're gonna learn a new language. We're gonna learn a new language. How many have ever attempted to learn a new language before? Taking Spanish or whatever you took. I took four years of Latin when I was in high school and I can't remember much about it other than a few declensions and conjunctions and things like that. But when you learn a new language, they tell you to do four things. Number one, they tell you to immerse yourself in it. And so we are going to be very immersive over the next several weeks as we talk about how to build a prayer life, as we talk about how to read the Scripture. We're gonna talk about the gifts of the Holy Spirit, how to be led by the Holy Spirit. We're gonna talk about some crazy things that God in rare times has done to speak to his people. And we're gonna learn a new language but we're going to, number one, we're gonna immerse ourselves in it. Number two, they tell you you need to seek out a teacher. Well, here's the good news. Not only am I gonna teach on it, but every single one of us have a teacher.  But he also called the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth, who will lead and guide you into all truth. So we have a teacher, the Holy Spirit, to teach us. They tell you the third thing, this is funny, watch television. If you wanna learn another language, watch television in that language. Why? Because you're watching other examples of that. And so we're gonna learn from examples of some other people in the Bible and even in our church that have experienced God's speaking to them in very powerful ways. And the fourth way is they say practice, conversation. You gotta practice in conversation. And so we're gonna practice. How are we gonna practice? Well, here's the first thing that we're gonna do. We're gonna read our Bibles. How many have a Bible? Raise your hand if you have a Bible. Okay, check. Number two, how many have 24 hours in a day? Raise your hand, every person. Check. We're gonna take part of our day and we're gonna take our Bibles and we're gonna be intentional to immerse ourselves. Get alone with God and then we're gonna pray the prayer of Samuel. We're gonna say, Lord, here I am, speak to me. And we're gonna practice our dialogue with God. We're gonna talk to God. And we're also gonna practice listening to him speak to us. And we're gonna take our lives off of airplane mode. You guys know what that is? Get on a plane, take your digital device to airplane mode, why? So that phone calls, texts, emails can't come through. So many of us are living spiritually on airplane mode. It's like, got my Bible, it's one way.  In fact, if you have a Bible, here and over at porch, I want you to take it. I want you to hold it up.  Just do it, physically. Sometimes you just gotta be foolish. Just click it, off of airplane mode. If you have an Android, you can't do that because it's of the devil. But if it's an Apple device and you're truly saved, we're taking our relationship with God off of airplane mode. And you know what we're gonna do? We're gonna tune in. We're gonna hear the voice of the Father because what He has to say, we need to hear. I want you to stand up with me. And I'm gonna pray, ask the Lord to give us eyes to see and ears to hear. Heavenly Father, I pray that today, today, reminded of your words in Hebrew, it says, if you hear His voice today, do not harden your hearts as in the day of rebellion. Today, that we wanna hear what you're saying to us. Words of affirmation, words of love, words of direction, words of encouragement, words of destiny. If you're truly a Father and we're truly your children, Lord, we don't wanna live our lives missing out on everything that you have for us and what you wanna say to us. I pray that today would be the beginning of a dialogue and not just a monologue anymore. And for those of us who maybe have never, ever stepped over the line of religion into relationship, I pray that even today, today, we would open our hearts to receive the forgiveness, receive the grace of God and new eternal life that you offer because of your son Jesus' perfect sacrifice on the cross for us. We would even respond to that drawing of your Holy Spirit because I know that even now the Holy Spirit is doing that. Many, many people who are listening to me today, something going on on the inside of you and you know you need to get your life right with God. You know God's real. Maybe all of your life, you've been trying to find that real. It's not dried religion, it's not just formality and it's not even just things that are written down that we say that we believe. God is a Father who wants children, he wants to have a real relationship.  You'll be born again, saved. Just a moment, we're gonna give you an opportunity to respond to that. But today, Father, would you give us eyes wide open, ears wide open in Jesus' name. Amen.


Someone asked me if I could give them a pep talk like before an event. Okay. Here it goes first Don't ever talk about what I'm about to tell you. I know that sounds a little creepy, but when you talk about things it releases them you know, that's why we're always told to talk about trauma and There's one thing I've learned about getting yourself into the zone and into a good state of mind If you figure out how to do that and you tell someone There's a 90% chance that the first person you tell is going to say something stupid about it Like why are you doing that weird thing? That's down. Why it's stupid, right?  Just tell them to watch this video and If your teammate or friend is told you to watch this video, they're trusting you a lot So don't screw this up for them Okay, and if you start doing this and you're at some event and you see your friend quietly thinking to themselves Right before the event and you're about to do the same and you you catch eye contact Just give them a nod. There's nothing to talk about. You know what you're doing. They know what you're doing They know what they're doing. Okay, here's what you do Imagine yourself at your event And it's about to start and you get yourself ready and then bam the event starts and you start going and and you're doing all right and The event continues and you're doing all right and you get all the way to the end of the event the event and you did all Right, and your coach comes up to you and says Not bad, and then your friends and family come over and say hey, you're amazing. Oh, that was great We saw you out there.  It's how you play the game because you know, you didn't do your best you did all right and The whole the whole competition you did okay and The whole competition you might have been thinking man, where's that part of me? Where's that part of me that's just gonna come out and be like And just like like push me to the to the max take me to the next level You know where where's that great performance? Because all I did was a mediocre performance and you're not gonna be able to explain it to everyone because everyone's gonna be like But that evening Laying in bed when everything's quiet and you're there just with your own thoughts you're gonna have to face yourself Knowing that you did not give your best and it's gonna feel terrible It feels it feels sickening knowing that you did not do your best and you're gonna lay there and wish that you could just go back and Do it again because now you've got that part now You've got that that rage that feeling that you just want to ah if I could just get one more chance I would not waste it Okay now come back Now you've got that feeling but don't feel it right now push down those goosebumps Don't feel inspired Don't let your heart rate rise push it all down and take that feeling and stick it into a box and Put a lid on that box and put a pin in the top of that box and now you've got this box That's like a hand grenade and as soon as you pull out that pin. It's just gonna fill you with this Raging energy this maximum potential Then that's the thing you can't find when you're cracking when you crack you can't find that but here it is you've got it in a box Now you can either just take this box with you and trust that you're gonna figure out when you need it and pop the box open or You can think about the event that's coming up and say okay I'm gonna need it right at the beginning so as soon as the the gun goes off or the whistle or whatever I'm gonna pop that box open and go maximum or maybe you want to put it at the halfway point of the game Or maybe you know that there's a certain point you crack where it's like coming down the final stretch You need to put the box there. So when you get to that part, that's when you pop open that box But when you pop open that box, you know that you're just gonna be maxing out from that point on So take care of your box. Don't tell anyone about it and good luck


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Okay, welcome everybody to this February 22nd, 2022 meeting of Development Review Board. Just introduce the board members that are joining electronically. I am Rob Goodwin here in person, chair of this board. On the Zoom platform, we have Joe Kiernan. Can you introduce yourself? Can you speak up a little bit, Joe? Or get the microphone closer to your mouth? Joe Kiernan, DRB. Perfect, thank you. Yes. Then Abby. You're muted, Abby. There you go. Hi. And then Jean. Oh, we lost him. He's just signing back in. People seem to be having technical difficulties tonight. I hope everybody just has a little extra patience tonight. Jean, are you back? I am back. I have a technical issue. I'm here. Okay, we have four DRB members present. Three on the Zoom platform, one in person. I believe we can proceed. And I will turn this point over to Meredith for hopefully one of the last times who knows to review these remote meeting procedures and process. So go ahead, Meredith. Okay. All right, everybody. I'm a little slower than normal because previous meeting went right up until the end. So I've got to open up my little intro for anybody watching the work. All right. So share screen. All right. So for anybody who is watching this development review board meeting from home via Orca media, you can participate in tonight's meeting by this link into your web browser. And that would take you straight into the Zoom meeting where you can see everybody and speak and see everything that we share on our screens. Alternatively, you can call into this phone number and plug in this meeting ID. Oh, we lost you again. If you are, if somebody is trying to log in and they're having problems accessing the meeting, please email me. Here's my email address. I will be monitoring my email throughout the meeting. And so I will try and help you log in if you're having problems. For those attending via Zoom, turning your video on is optional. For everyone attending, please keep your microphone on mute when you're not speaking. This will reduce background noise. And a reminder that the Zoom chat function should only be used for troubleshooting or logistics questions for questions or comments about an item on the agenda. Please raise your hand. You can do that physically or by using the raise hand button on your toolbar. And then when you're called on by the chair, please make sure to state your name once you're unmuted. And then you can place your include your comments. In the event that members of the unable to access this meeting and I'll find that out via my email, the meeting will need to be continued to a time and place certain because we did give the online platform as a mode of accessing the meeting. I will now hand the meeting back over to the chair. Jean, if you get bumped off again, feel free to just call in on your phone. And I know you wouldn't be able to see the screen, but you'd be able to hear everything and talk and keep getting bumped off. So it's just an option. Okay. Thank you. Thank you, Meredith. At this point, I'd accept a motion to approve the agenda for this night's meeting. Moved. Motion by Abby. Seconded. Seconded by Joe. How do board members vote on this, Joe? Yes. Abby? Yes. Jean? Yes. Rob votes. Yes. We have an agenda. Well, just only comments from the chair this evening. We do appear to have you having some various technical problems. Seems to be working smoothly now, but just bear with us. And we will do what we can here. We have four members present. I believe we are expecting another member that indicated that he was going to be late. But that does give us a quorum for this evening. And out further ado, we can proceed on to the next order of business, which is approval of the minutes from the February 7th, 2022 meeting. And we do have enough members here who are eligible to vote on this. Is there any changes proposed for the minutes or a motion to approve? Make the motion to approve the minutes. Motion from Abby. Second. Second from Jean. OK, Joe, how do you vote? Yes. Abby? Yes. Jean? Yes. Rob, myself votes. Yes, we have the approved minutes for February 7th. OK. So the next order of business will be a continuation of the application for 43 Granite Shed Lane. And so I believe that there was some additional information that was submitted. And so maybe Meredith can give a brief summary of that. And then we'll turn it over to the applicant for discussion. Before we do that, because Joe Castellano was not at the first part of the hearing, we need to swear Joe in if he's planning to make any comments. Because I think we have John, Fred, Jeff, they were all here. And I'm sorry. I don't know if it's Michael or Stephen that signed in as Janet. Stephen. Stephen. OK, thank you. I'm sorry. I don't recognize everybody.  I usually just see Fred. Jody, you wish to speak tonight? Yes, just for a brief period. OK. So we'll need to swear you in as a witness. Otherwise, whatever you say doesn't get to go on the record. Oh, you want to be able to see him? Oh, hold on one second. Sorry. No, it's OK. I've got to find where it is. I don't quite have it memorized yet. And I forgot my cheat sheet. I must have it. I wouldn't want to miss a word, though. No, that would negate the whole benefit. All righty, Joe. Here, you can speak to my microphone. So can you raise your right hand and repeat after me? Oh, he doesn't have to repeat. Oh, yeah. That's right. Do you always swear or affirm that the testimony you are about to give the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth under the pains and penalties of perjury? I do. Thank you, sir. OK, so what has changed on 43 Trenchhead Lane, Meredith, since we last met? All right, so I'm going to keep this fairly brief and then hand it over to the applicants to go into more detail if they want. But we did get supplemental information from the applicant on the application. And this has all been sent around to everybody. And the new information confirms the location of the water setback on all the site plans. And sorry, I should somebody else sign in. It also verifies the proposed total impervious area that's within the water setback, including the existing non-conforming impervious cover that's within the riparian area. So that was that crane area that once we got the correct water setback, we realized that that was in the riparian buffer. And then the new riparian buffer impervious cover. This all still falls within the limits. I double check the numbers. They're still OK with what's in the water setback for total impervious cover. And then the board is just going to need to approve those stormwater outfall areas. They also added some trees and shrubs in response to the Montpelier conservation comments. They added some both at these stormwater outfall areas, as well as along the swale. They revised the lighting plan. And this brought the lumen total under the maximum allowed for the site. And they also eliminated those poles that were too close to the property boundary. So under my review, the lighting plan compliance, a minor detail. They fixed a site plan detail sheet so that everything is consistent. And they can see the vinyl fencing that's going to go around the refuge enclosure. And then another thing that they put in into the cover sheet for the supplemental package was some potential conditions that they would be a, oh, they had either we had talked about in the hearing or some ideas for conditions for approval. I'm not going to go into all those in detail now, but the board has those and is able to evaluate them. I did get today, and I'm going to add it to the record, but I want to just read it in, that the Montpelier Conservation Commission, in case they had any additional comments. And I think it's the chair of that forwarded on an email that was sent to the applicant that said that the Montpelier Conservation Commission would like to thank applicant for considering their comments and revising the plans of the proposed project located at 43 Granite Shed Lane. And then they offered some information about conservation, including potential opportunities for grants and potential funding for other stormwater changes and things like that. But I will put that email in the record, but they didn't have any more constructive changes requested or anything like that to what we got. So that's sort of an approval of what was there that were made. You know, there's still some sort of outstanding items that I'm not sure if the board is going to want to try and dig down deeper on, or if they're satisfied. And that's really with regard to the preferences. I just discussed that fairly in depth at the last meeting. But if the board has any other questions about that, they should feel free. Recording in progress. Sorry about that. The key determinations when I went through the prior staff report and what was already dealt with or resolved or where it felt like the board had enough facts is really what uses are the board going to approve? Are they going to grant exemption to the street tree requirement given the need for a place for the trucks to turn around when they go into the loading dock and why there was an explanation about why putting street trees on that side of the building really wasn't. And then whether or not the board is open with cash enclosure, not being at the technically the rear of the parcel. Most of the other things that were red flagged were resolved with all the additional information that's gotten, at least in my opinion. The big one, of course, is what uses are allowed and is that the board going to approve? That's what I've got. Sorry, that was a long spiel. Thank you, Meredith. I would turn it over to the Connor group for anything to add or expand upon the materials you submitted since our last meeting here. Fred Connor here. I'll just be brief. Just want to thank the board and staff for reviewing the date and we respectfully request approval as we've outlined in our most recent letter. Yeah, thank you for the detailed summary, too. I think it's very helpful to sort of figure out where we're at and where we're going here with this application. So, Jeff, did you have any summary you would like to do here on the site plans? Yeah, I mean, I think Meredith did a good job of summarizing plan, site, detail, and landscaping changes that have been made. We did our best to try to summarize that in the cover letter, supplemental cover letter. So if I know how everybody's read through that in some detail, what we attempted to do is initially outline the changes that were made and how they address the initial staff comments as well as the conservation committee comments. As Meredith outlined again, I feel like we've done a pretty good job of addressing all those to the best of our ability. The remaining portion of that relatively lengthy cover letter was an attempt to address the initial staff comments, more or less, in the order they were presented within the initial staff review, as well as, I think it just kind of goes in a more miracle outline of the regulations with regards to the critical items or items that we're looking for the board to make a decision on whether it's relative to the site center view with conditional use review. So I'm happy to go through each of these individually in the order that they were presented in the cover letter or I can turn it back over the board and we can simply address the ones in more detail that they feel are more imperative. But I'm happy to do either whatever the board's pleasure is. I don't think we need to go through every single one. I think that there's sort of three issues here to maybe our, that we could go upon. I guess one is the easiest. If you could just talk a little bit about we gotta address this issue with the trash being at the front of the parcel and not at the rear of the parcel. It's like it's in the middle. And I guess I could see some benefits. I'm sure you got a good reason for why that is, but for the record, I think it would make sense for you to sort of talk about that a little bit. Yeah, so if I feel like trying to, right now it's located kind of at the central location of the Southern parking lot. Obviously we have a little bit of a unique layout of the property in general, given the scale of the existing building and how it kind of bisects the property. And I believe where it's located, it was really to do a couple of things. One is to provide somewhat of an easy access to the majority of the Southern entrance points of the building, as well as making it somewhat accessible for access for trash and recycling removal without a scenario where it's, you know, blatantly obvious in the front of the property. Understanding that more than likely, and again, we obviously don't know exactly where the tenant or use is gonna be, but I think in theory everybody's generally under the assumption that the majority, if this is facility is to be used as some type of retail or restaurant or brewery or something of that nature, that the majority of the customer access and entrance will be on the north side of the building. So really the south or back side of the building is kind of the purpose of the lot, really the rear portion of the frontage, so to speak, or the visible aesthetic of the property, even though we've got the right away on the east or right side there.  And it's also, you know, a screen with a vinyl fencing all the way around the perimeter. You know, we feel it's located in the spot that is out of the way, not really visible to the public eye, but it still presents an opportunity for a relative easy access for both the users inside the building as well as access to a removal of the trash recycling on a regular basis. Understanding that southeast corner of the property in that parking area really is where a lot of loading, unloading, and maintenance operations will be taking place, so. Thank you. Also the rear of the parcel is the top of the riverbank, I think that that's not the best place for a trash receptacle, in my opinion. That's the best number. All right, so then the next issue is the street trees. And I believe you guys are requesting slight deviation from the regs on that. I don't know if you could just expand on that a little bit. Yeah, so, you know, a similar fashion, we're dealing with, you know, less than ideal existing site conditions and where we have the ability to address that, which we feel as the North entrance parking lot along Granite Shed Lane, you know, we've made an attempt to narrow that down, make kind of a standard traditional commercial curb cut and install four maple trees, I think the Freeman maple trees, two on either side of that to comply with that street tree condition in the best of our ability. The problem on the south side of the building is that parking area that's adjacent to Granite Shed Lane, right now, that's all existing gravel. Really, for the intent of what we're proposing for the loading area of the property, which is located on the southeast corner right at Granite Shed Lane, that's an area where trucks will be pulling in down Granite Shed Lane, backing into that loading space, and then then again pulling out and needing to do a three point turn kind of within that southern parking area. And so creating any additional kind of green space or median or belt there is really prohibitive to allowing that loading area and access in that southern parking lot to occur given the existing site constraints. So, you know, we've, in addition to the, doing the best we can on the north side, I think we've tended to go a little above and beyond on the overall site landscaping beyond what is maybe actually technically necessary to help offset that a little bit. And we felt providing some landscaping screening on both the north and south property lines as well as some of the riverbank re-vegetation efforts that we're now calling for, you know, more than offset for the lack of a few street trees given the existing circumstances. All righty. Board members have any other questions on the trash or street trees? No, no, okay. Okay. The last issue, I guess, is a discussion on the uses. And I think I would, through this, I would push move to page five of the staff reports. Meredith gave a recommendation there. I believe I'm making this correctly. Is that still relevant? Yeah, I mean, this is one option. Yeah. Right, so just because you've introduced it, if you don't mind. Yeah. If the board is not comfortable approving a conditional use here, given that the exact conditional use isn't known, page five of the staff report does provide a potential avenue for the board to be able to approve a potential use, permitted use, which would then be able to be linked to the site plan changes so that the applicant can move forward with getting some paving done, getting some landscaping done, getting some striping in to make it easier to then be able to find a tenant for that ultimate use. You know, if the final tenant or tenants came back, if there was a permitted use, it would be an administrative permit. If the use was a conditional use, it would come back before the board. So it would be a fresh application once they got to whoever the ultimate tenant is, if it's not the restaurant use that was requested. So specifically on page five, my suggestion for an avenue here is for the board to approve up to 4,700 square feet of an overlapping restaurant, which is Eat-In, restaurant takeout, and service contractor use, because all three of those could theoretically overlap and use the same space at different times. And with a, it's tied in here in the staff, with a limited number of parking spaces approved. So that's all they would stripe up to until they came back with the uses for the rest of the building. It's a way to move forward. It's just an option. The board may have some other creative solution that I haven't thought of, or the applicant may, but that was an option. But the board could also theoretically approve a conditional use with a bunch of conditions on it. That's really how you want to go forward here. And Meredith, just to piggyback on that a little bit, on page two of our supplemental cover letter, we attempted to kind of agree to end or outline some additional language, and it really just marries what you had put in your staff notes. I think what we thought were the critical components of a conditional use approval being the use obviously, but then the traffic being a primary one, and us being comfortable with this concept of whatever being proposed, not exceeding the 49 PM peak hour trips based on IT generation study. And then similarly, with regards to the line striping, that kind of phase approach that you outline in your staff notes, in talking with the applicant, with how you had outlined that with any initial staff comments as potential options for the DRB to consider as conditions of approval. Joe and Abby, you got so many thoughts. Or Gene? You don't have the wording here, I don't see it. I mean, it's provided to Meredith. Gene, can you get closer to your microphone?  What was that wording provided to Meredith? I don't see it in the... It's in a few different places in the staff report. So Jeff outlined some of it on page two of the supplemental cover letter. There's also at the end of my staff report, there is a very long list of potential conditions. And including that uses approved by the board's decision may not result in more than 49 new vehicle trips on Granite Street during the PM peak hours without additional board approval. So there's a whole long list of potential conditions that I threw into the staff report at the end. And I think that's what Jeff was referring to. I mean, I personally feel comfortable moving forward with having such wording and leaving it with all the options until determined on the specific use. Well, I'm hearing Gene, I think you're saying that you're sort of, you're comfortable with sort of the recommendations of the applicant, which seem to be actually congruent with the recommendations of the staff report, is that correct? Correct. Well, board members, I feel like I've got enough information to discuss this. I think that this has been... We do have Joe who wanted to say something. Joe Castellano, remember who signed in? Oh yeah. Let our public talk. Yeah. Thank you, Meredith. Alrighty, Jeff, I'd like to make a comment right now. The floor is yours. Yeah, thank you so much. First, I wanna thank the Connor brothers and Jeff for renovating the existing building. I'm very pleased. I'm actually a neighbor. I live up on College Hill and I actually can view the building as this construction has been progressing. So thank you again so much. I know it probably wasn't cheap or easy to renovate the existing building, but thank you so much. And I wanna express my support for what you guys are doing. You'd have a couple of quick questions. I know that right now you don't currently have a tenant, but what do you foresee in your ideal tenant situation is what the capacity might be there for the building? As far as seating. I'm trying to... We think it's a unique property, given that it's on the waterfront and also near Caledonia spirits. We've seen that facility be very well received. So we think because of the nature of the building and a lot of folks that have come through, including a couple of breweries, we think a brewery would be highest and best used if combined with a restaurant. And we think that the site can easily handle that. So we do think that's probably highest and best used but we are open to other things as well. Okay, I was just kind of curious on... I know you were talking about a 4,700 square foot. If I remember correctly, restaurant space. So I assume that would probably be 150 tables or 150... I don't know. I don't know how far they have to be spaced out. That was kind of the question I was asking. We haven't done it to those kind of details. We would not be the restaurant operator. Gotcha. We're not sure if someone wants to use it as a catering establishment or an establishment to take catered goods to other sites. So that might take up a lot of the space as well. Okay, and one other concern too is I haven't gotten into the weeds as far as like the lighting plan, but I know that Bar Hill... We're actually, luckily, luckily there are some trees that shield us from most of the lighting on Bar Hill's parking lot. And the granite shed lane's a little bit more visible because there aren't any trees around it. And I was just wondering if you were planning to kind of mitigate that or have the lighting more focused towards the building as opposed to out towards the street. Yeah, all of our lights are shielded lights. Both the pole lights and the building mounted lights. So they do shield it from going beyond the property and our photogrammetric plans also have to show that it's kind of zeros out of the property line. Okay, I just want to also express my support for the project, it sounds wonderful. I'm looking forward to, can I can walk down there to the brewery? Okay. Thank you, Joe. Thank you. Joe, this is Meredith. Can you just tell me what your address is? This is one of the things we keep track of so that we can send you a copy of the decision. Yeah, I'm over at Three Savings Street. Okay. In Montpelier. Thank you very much. I appreciate it, Joe. Thank you. Thank you for your support. You're welcome. Thank you guys so much. I appreciate what you guys are doing. Thank you. Thank you. I see a hand, Abby, or no? I'm good, thanks. Yeah, I think I'll note the record that Joe did bring up some, you know, talk about the lighting. I think there was a pretty extensive lighting plan that was, you know, submitted with the package. And I think the board previously has been quite comfortable with that stuff even being submitted, you know, afterwards as a condition of approval. But, you know, I feel like after reviewing that plan, I've got enough information to make a decision on that. I just did want to highlight that up to board members as, you know, it was something that was a core of the additional submittals. Do you have anything to add, Meredith? I don't really have anything to add. I think maybe just a quick note for Joe Castellano. The lighting plan for Gin Lane for that whole site, that was approved under old regulations. So our new regulations have very specific limits on how much light can actually be emitted from each particular location, each fixture as well as a site as a whole and what kind of shielding has to be included. So the hope is that this, even if they even put in the same number of lights that were at the Caledonia spirits, it would still have a lot less impact. The new zoning regulations have made a big difference on that. Yeah, my big concern was just the glare, because it does come straight up the hill. Yep, nope. And that's the, we have, because they are shielded in a way to try and keep them from coming back up for the light extending up, as well as the quality of the light, like it has to be almost a softer, warmer light and the total light that's actually emitted from every single bulb has to be less than what used to be allowed. So it should be a lot less impact for you. Thank you. You're welcome. At this point, I would accept a motion from the board. Good, deliberative session? Or which? I think that that's where we go next. This is a deliberative session. Motion to close the public portion of the meeting. Is that what you're looking for? Motion to close the public portion of the hearing. Yeah. And continue in deliberative session after the close of the public meeting. Okay, I make a motion to close the public portion of this hearing. Second. I will second that. All right, motion by Abby. Jean, Joe, how do you vote? Yes. Abby? Yes. Jean? Yes. Rob, myself votes yes. That's unanimous to close the public hearing. All right, so we need to do a second motion to adjourn into deliberative session. Correct? There's nothing else on the agenda. Sorry, I'm trying to set up that this went a little faster than I anticipated. So I've got to set up the deliberative meeting. We do not have anything else on the agenda. Our next meeting is Monday, March 7th, 2022. And that's it. Yep. So then we can close the public meeting. Did the applicant want to say anything? Do you want any closing comments for the Connor group? Again, just like to thank everybody for their time and for doing this thoughtfully. And I look forward to hopefully receiving your support. I believe we need all four votes to have a favorable decision. So we respectfully request that. And thank you for the additional information that you provided during this hearing. Absolutely. Okay. Do we have a motion? I'll make a motion to close this meeting and continue in deliberative session. It works. Second. All right. Second by Abby, second by Dean. Joe, how do you vote? Yes. Abby? Yes. Dean? Yes. And Rob, myself was, yes. We will, you all on the Monday, the 7th, 2022 of March. And... Well, we'll see these guys in just a few minutes. And yes, we'll see some board members in a few minutes. Yes. Board members, we'll reconvene in five minutes. Get some time to set things up. That will be at, we'll call it, oh, call it 745.