Deep thanks so much for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it. Super excited for the Convo Yeah, a lot of fun talking about CLS sustainable talking about hometown Yeah, yeah, glad to be here getting the whole planet just onboarded with next-gen energy technologies. Yeah It's a no-brainer and It's great because there's already epic developers like you guys like CLS sustainable That have been doing it and that have been onboarding and have been Making people happy the commercial and industrial especially And even residential With their new technologies we're making people happy with those new tech so and keeping earth just in a nice Healthy sustainable regenerative style of prosperity instead of one that Is short-term thinking this now we're long-term thinking which is great. Yeah So this is the second episode of home-down podcast, which I'm super excited about. Yeah, yeah first one was with Andy and It's cool because GCE also and guarantee clean energy and CLS Have had an ongoing partnership now for quite some time like in just serving the transition to clean energy technologies and So now CLS is also coming on board as a dev of home doubt too as that is beginning to roar and take off So I would love to read the bio of deke to give you guys a little bit of a better understanding of How exactly he has been building holistic energy systems and how he's continuing to do so? So he's co-founder and CEO of CLS sustainable a commercial industrial and community solar developer in EPC engineering procurement and construction CLS provides a holistic approach to achieve renewable energy goals for people and organizations They serve including early-stage development engineering procurement construction project finance operations and maintenance Deke was named entrepreneur of the year for the energy industry by the American business awards in 2019 and 2021 Yes, sir It's an awesome Yeah, such a cool word Nice and you guys can find the links in the bio below CLS sustainable comm also dekes LinkedIn profile is down there as well as all the home Dow links Deke let's jump into things by understanding like your journey through energy itself so This this is actually my 20th year in the energy industry So I started back in 2002-2003 in the oil and gas industry. So kind of a complete opposite of where I am today, right? It was more on the finance end Where I was working with a small independent operator here in Dallas, Texas We were drilling for natural gas wells, which at the time we're right on top of right now But which is the Barnett shale at the time? It was the largest natural gas field that was discovered nobody knew how to really tap into it though because it was a tight shale formation and in 2003-2004 A gentleman by the name of George Mitchell with Mitchell energy. He he had there's always been frack technologies But he had come out with this slick water frack where they use a ton of sand and use it as a prop in to hold open The layers of the shale to then release the hydrocarbons, right? at that point in time Devin energy came in acquired Mitchell energy and then a bunch of your larger independence and at that time made a bunch of these Oil and gas firms like your Chesapeake energies your Devin energy ZOG resources. They all moved into the shale plays and Where they're they're naturally rich in hydrocarbons whether it be oil into a natural gas This one specifically was natural gas But what my job was is we would actually raise capital to go out and drill wells in the Barnett shale and I did that for about three or four years And at the time again with all these larger organizations moving in the company. I was with actually got acquired So it was either make that transition or kind of go out on my own and I've always had an entrepreneurial spirit So I said, you know what what the heck? I'll give it a shot and I had opened up my first oil and gas company in 2007 We had acquired some acreage in another shale play which was emerging at the time called the Fayetteville shale in Arkansas And we did some drilling out there and again with with frack technologies back then and Back then you didn't nobody really understood The the negative effects of what fracking was actually doing right I'm sure you've seen it on TV shows or even in movies right the Matt Damon movie where people actually had Fire coming out of their their water faucets right that they're gas coming out of water faucets that they could then light and fire up So, you know seeing that kind of detriment that this point I was I was probably in my lid or mid to like 20s and It You kind of had blinders on right you knew stuff was happening But it wasn't one of those things that was really at the forefront of your mind. It was just How can we exploit the hydrocarbons? How can we pull them out, right? So I did that for a couple of years on my own We were dealing with an operator that was out in Arkansas who ended up actually taking Some of our capital investment that we had we had injected into them and and took off Fortunately for us. We actually acquired the leases beforehand So I was able to take the leases over and by default I became an operator myself and so an operator is just Kind of more of a in a construction term as someone who's overall operating the well drilling the well Organizing everything and I don't have really I didn't have at the time a geological background, right? So we just hired the right types of people and we ended up drilling and operating our own wells for several years We did Texas, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Kentucky, Tennessee And then there's obviously a bunch of cyclical up and downs in the oil and gas industry as I'm sure you've heard but Specific to with what we were doing on the capital raising side, right? We were dealing with not only accredited investors, but financial institutions who would then fund these drilling expeditions 2008 happened and with the housing market crashing and then the financial market crashing I Remember and this was me being super super naive at a young age was was telling myself that it probably wasn't going to affect us as much as It's affecting other people right because we're drilling for oil or gas. It's either there. It's not there You know, and it's a safer place I guess you could say with a certainty and predictability that shale plays had for for people to put their money, right? but again not knowing and being really naive about the situation was Everybody was holding on to their money. Nobody wanted to release it at that point in time So I just recently gotten married. We had our we had our daughter, right that we were talking about and My wife was just saying hey, we can't deal with these ups and downs anymore, right? We need something a little bit more level, which which I agreed with and being on the investment side one of the key questions we used to always get was What do you guys have in renewables? right and so my job at the time being in an oil and gas was well You don't want to do renewables, right? We're dealing with fossil fuels and things of that nature And it was it was more at the infancy stages on the renewable sector where we're not a lot of people knew what was going on Anyways, but it helped open my mind and then if you couple that with everything about the oil and gas industry and the pollutants and the gases and everything else that it's releasing into the environment I Knew from more of a morality perspective and an ethical standard is that There's got to be some better ways to approach this whole energy thing, right? And how can we do that and how can we accomplish it and how can we at least play a small part in that transition? So being here in the Dallas-Sport Worth area again, you know a mecca for for the oil and gas industry here in Texas is There weren't a bunch of companies that were doing renewable or solar or wind or anything of that nature But I was I was lucky enough through a lot of due diligence is that I had found a local company that was dealing with the residential market and I've been in sales since I was 16 17 years old So I felt you know if anything I kind of go back and rely on Sales skills and and see what I can do there And so I got connected and I got hired on as a sales professional And what we would do is we would go into people's homes and show them ways that they're able to reduce the consumption in their house But also how they're able to tackle an offset through solar panels right and installing solar on top of their home instead of gaining all their electricity from the utility grid and In and doing that right and again going back to my whole entrepreneurial spirit is there There's I'm always trying to find a better way to do things right and sometimes there aren't sometimes there aren't But in this type of a situation that I was in The company that I was with kind of had a all-in-one package right regardless of what your situation was You're getting this this this and that right and I had approached upper management with hey How about we come in and we actually customize this to the home or because I'm married I have four kids right actually my next-door neighbor who is single lives in the same size home that I'm in right however Our living habits are different. You know he's gone at work all throughout the day hardly ever using electricity My wife is at home. We have one child that's being homeschooled You know the other the other two are are excuse me the two are in school than ones in a daycare So we're using a lot more electricity throughout the day right above and beyond that my comfort levels in my home I'd be different than my neighbors so every living situation was going to be a little bit different so how can we tailor make all of that to the homeowner specific needs and They felt it would be too trying to actually do that So I said you know what I can I can I can do this right yeah, so I had I left there And I started a company With two two friends of mine one that had a construction background one that had a finance background as well And it was a perfect match and we created a company called circle of solar that we founded in in 2014 And that was giving this is my first entree into what a true holistic approach looks like yeah, right? So we went into we would train all of our sales reps to go in and actually give a very good audit That meant you're going in to their attic you seeing what type of insulation levels that they have out there, right? We're taking thermal temperatures of the home we would do everything from Reinsulate their attic, but we would also do barrier type products or radiant barrier that would go on on the rafters of a roof to create a more suitable environment inside the attic space not only for the home and Heat penetration into the house, but also think about HVAC equipment that is actually sitting up there and a Not-so-great environment, right? You have an AC system trying to produce out, you know 50 degrees 60 degree air into your home. However, your ducks in the AC system is sitting in an attic That's 140 degrees right kind of kind of productive if you will so We did all that we brought in the holistic approach even through water heating solution HVAC systems We did high high efficiency systems that were not your typical 1416 seer build a grade models But we were doing 20 plus seer systems in homes where we could see a reduction just on that alone of between 25 30 percent of consumption LED lighting and all that other good stuff. So we did that and we we grew pretty pretty rapidly That's where the two entrepreneur awards came from circle was actually a top energy company in 2019 is wealthy the American business awards and In a three-year period we had a growth rate of over 2200 percent We were featured on ink magazines fastest growing companies in the US ranked 176 And with all this came some notoriety, but also some interest from from private equity firms and investment groups So we actually ended up exiting that company in July last year But throughout this process on the residential side is you know, I thought well this is scalable and not only is it Scalable and in the residential market to take it nationwide, but think about businesses, right and the CNI industry and how many businesses are actually Losing energy that could otherwise be rerouted and reused within their facility, but also think about how they're getting charged for electricity, right and From a business's perspective finances are key, right? It's a number one driver while I make a decision on on making an investment whether it's solar or a new piece of equipment That's going to make their their their facility run more efficiently. So It's like how can we transition this to the CNI sector? So we started doing that and this was prior to us exiting we started doing that about in 2018 2019 and we started to get good reception throughout the DFW market and we Actually started to get a really good reputation as well and then that kind of grew nationwide and so That's how we actually transition circular solar the CLS sustainable as a spin-off and here we are today with CLS sustainable And we're a nationwide developer EPC CLS are our initiative when we first set out was to only handle the EPC perspective which was the engineering the procurement the construction and one of the things that we were finding Doing EPC work for for other developers were a lot of developers weren't developing the project correctly Right, so they would lean on us for a lot more of the development side of the work so we actually took more that on and Now we actually grew into more of a development firm and an EPC firm kind of combined but again it kind of goes with our whole mantra of bringing that holistic approach and so it was one of those other things of how Can we better service our customers and our clients and it's the more stuff that we can bring in-house that we can eliminate You know Broker fees or third-party fees or things of that nature Well, it not only benefits us as an organization, but it also benefits the end user, right? Because now you're getting Same product that that's going to be superior in service, but you're getting it at a lesser rate So it's kind of a win-win-win situation. Yeah So cool. Yeah, so I get long-winded me. I love the trajectory. I love the history I love how when you were sharing like some of these first knocks from the investors That were approaching the oil and natural gas side of things where well, what do you guys have in renewables? Yeah, right. It's so good like because that those knocks are like the opening of the mind to new possibilities for sure And also even like your wife saying like let's have something more stable. Yeah for our kids, right? That was another like a little knock along the right and I love the when when you when you began getting involved in residential solar I Like how you also felt like a knock to a next level, which was well, how do we personalize this? Yes Tailor it to each home as it as the needs of that home ask And that's another great one and then finding all the little optimizations and efficiency So like the sales would go in and do that audit and the audit would cover the areas Where like you said, you wouldn't be trying to blow 60 50 60 degree Fahrenheit cool air in To a home where the HVAC area Would be trying to traverse a hundred and forty Fahrenheit degree zone. So All of that is a It's like the nuggets right on the trail, yeah, and and then the entrepreneurial spirit kicking in and like and and Like really wanting to explore what renewables and next-gen energy technologies were and And then even making an exit like making an exit into CNI and And just seeing like well And it's good being rewarded also with awards because and like getting more private equity Interests and things like that because those are also signs along the way that damn things are going well Yeah, and there's actually a lot of like big money interested in the transition not just making money, but also like there are ESG's and SDGs and these like initiatives that Money is now more often needing to follow For a sustainable prosperous abundant planet in future for generations to come. Yeah There are several indigenous tribes that follow like a seventh generation principle Where they don't make action unless they know seven generations down the line It's going to be beneficial. Oh, well, and so this is what clean energy technologies are about. Yeah So it's really thinking multi-generationally So I love also how you were sharing like there's so many different aspects to the Intergroup to the to the EPC of the CNI and I would like to maybe Have you explained more about what is it like having a CNI project and having CLS fulfill that demand? so Having it having a CNI project and kind of going back to what you're talking about with ESG, right? We're we're seeing that mandate a whole lot more nowadays than what we were seeing even two years ago and Having a CNI project that is looking into renewables Whether it's a mandate or not because we've dealt with some organizations some high-level organizations where They're saying that we're getting mandates from Aborder directors or from investors or from vendors that we're working with that We have to meet these certain standards by let's say 2025 or 2030, right? So we want to be proactive and start getting into it now and we understand that focus, but still at the end of the day Unfortunately, it's more financial driven than anything else, right? Because again, a lot of these organizations they're they're your fortune 100 or 500 a lot of them are publicly traded where They have a fiduciary responsibility to an investment group as well, right? That they have to make those types of wise decisions but from our perspective again taking that and giving The off-taker giving a giving a customer these solutions is we take everything from The initial concept, right where we intake a project and this means we're collecting 12 months worth of Electrical data, right usage consumption not only on their electricity, but also on the natural gas site as well So and who would be an average customer just that's an example an average customer It's really spread all across. I mean it could be school districts, right? It could be municipalities But it could also be Factory it could be a collision care center, you know a good-sized one But I would say our average is going to be one that is consuming roughly or I should for simplicity say have a spend of anywhere between 10 to $20,000 a month in utilities, right? No, don't get me wrong We also service your smaller CNI customers are only spending, you know $5,000 a month and your larger ones that are spending seven figures a month on the utility spend Cool, so all across the board cool average though right there, but we we intake the project first thing we do is an early-stage due diligence and we want to make sure that a from Design side the feasibility to fit enough panels on top is going to make a significant dent in what their consumption is We also want to make sure from a utility perspective that there's no hiccups as far as or hurdles I should say When it comes to Interconnecting the system to the utility we also want to figure out what their net net metering policy is And that plays a significant role, which a lot of developers don't really do their due diligence on As far as how they're treating any type of excess generation that's being put back into the power grid Excuse me some will give you know what we call a one-for-one credit Others give what's called an avoided cost, which is more down to a wholesale rate Which means I might be buying electricity from you at eight cents But anything I send back into the power grid is gonna you're gonna credit me back at three and a half Let's say so there's that delta that you're missing there So that goes into the whole design side and how we're designing and offsetting a system But we go through that early stage we run financials on it We figure out how the customer is looking to procure it whether it's through Any capital expenditures that they have available for it or any type of Finance mechanisms that we can put in place for whether through power purchase agreements energy services agreements things of that nature And that plays a crucial part because obviously we want it to be a win-win for everybody more importantly So for the client and we need to make sure that we're making them cash flow positive from day one, right? But after all that's put together and we package it up really nicely and we present it and go through not only all the Financial benefits, but you know from a sustainability side and more importantly from our side is what you're actually impacting and what you're contributing back To the earth. So there's a really cool couple pages on our on our Presentations that we do that show how many you know trees they're saving from being cut down, you know, how many? Miles of cars from gasoline powered vehicles that we're taking off the road Equivalent wise that the soul solar system is going to produce form. Nice so then We have a let's go through the example. So we have a school muni factory whatnot these bigger community projects that are Applying or they're like deciding to want to explore working together with CLS and Then is CLS Mainly focusing on solar Not necessarily so now wind is still CHP which which energy technologies do you so wind on site for distributed generation on the CNI side is not really that prevalent Okay, right You're gonna see when more on the on the utility set utility side We're looking at solar, but we're also looking at other types of generation systems, right? so if Like grocery chain for instance right who's has a bunch of chillers and coolers and everything throughout their facility That every time they're kicking on and off. There's big draws big amperage that's being pulled And so when they're doing that most utilities are going to charge like kind of like a time of use or Demand fee right depending upon what time of day and what that cost is so a lot of times when we're Investigating a utility bill we can find that those demand charges are sometimes 40 to 50 percent of what their overall bill is So solar is only going to positively affect more the supply side But we have some other generation types whether it's it's energy storage better energy storage or in situations like a factory or Cold storage facility or grocery chain We can integrate combined heat and power solutions Which is CHP solutions and those are natural gas fired generation that can offset and reduce that demand But it also enables Facility to come almost almost island themselves, and I'm sure you've heard the term microgrid, right? So you can kind of somewhat create a microgrid for your facility where now solar CHP energy storage is your main source of Energy so good, and you're only using the utility as a backup backup. Yeah Yeah, great. So that's the vision of working with CLS. Yeah, cool We don't want to be just one-sided and look at look at solar by itself unless we do our investigation We find out right that demand costs are too low where CHP won't make too much of a difference, right? But here in Texas, and I'm sure as people have heard about the country back in February of last year You know the the power grid went down There are a ton of people who who were without electricity for for quite some time. Unfortunately at At the time we saw it circle out, but we had one of our workers who lost electricity for him and his family and ended up putting a generator in his home and Ended up passing in the night because of all the carbon monoxide that was that was being released into his house Just to keep his family warm. So but that those types of scenarios and situations We can't because of the way the infrastructure is it's so old It's outdated that we can't be totally and solely relying upon them, right? This gives us an opportunity to kind of take those matters in our own hands. Yes produce electricity for ourselves Be able to back up Generation for ourselves almost islander ourselves be resilient. Yes, but do it at a cost That's less than what you're actually paying your current utility which is so win-win-win no-brainer for sure Love it. So then I love the conversation about the the micro grid or like the islanding Yeah, it's very interesting. So so what the so what the CNI? Existingly is paying in its monthly utilities will will decrease by 10% or something like that by this transition to solar and CHP or whatever And they're no longer going to be paying that amount correct because they're actually then That's the cost that they're paying into the The principle of or whatnot of the payment for the next gen technologies correct. Yeah So then they're gonna be the owners also of the technologies after a period of maybe 10 20 Something years like that correct. Yeah, so and an outright purchase they're an owner from day one They can sign what's called an O&M or operation of maintenance agreement to have someone like ourselves come in and just Keep up with the monitoring of the system, you know, maintain the system annually or every five years whatever the case is but if they were to opt for let's say a PPA a power purchase agreement or an ESA, which is an energy services agreement where we would Facilitate everything facilitate the financing. We could even own and operate the system We maintain it throughout that ESA period and like you're saying it could be Seven years. It could be 10. It could be 50. It could be as long as 25 years if they wanted it to be But it kind of makes it carefree from them in that perspective, but still even at the end They're still owning their own power, right? They're generating it on-site and after that ESA or PPA Period is up. They holy take over that system cool, and so then yeah, this is I just it's it's also very relaxing just hearing about it really Because I'm just feeling that there's so many industries that are looking for this and Now to have it packaged into a solution that then makes it easily accessible and frictionless as frictionless as possible And to win for them a win for you a win for the planet Is so so good though the only kind of person that's not a win for is the old infrastructures, right and that's okay because There's gonna be plenty of Opportunity for them to sort of let go of the old stuff and to get involved in the new stuff for sure so You know it just reminds me of You know the ones that were screaming for horses when cars were being invented Yeah, so it's it's cool like we can let go of the old and yeah, and usher in the new. Yeah, yeah You always have that little Uncomfortable period right where that transition is being made and I feel like that was a great analogy that you were saying with between the horses and the cars and We're seeing that now in the energy industry between fossil fuels and renewables and there does have to become a period Where you do have to let go of those old methodologies and and start to adapt the new ones and especially when they usher in independence and these micro grids these No, brainers of them not being reliant on an externality and paying more for that externality But instead paying less and owning your own Renewable tech stack. Yep. So so brilliant. This is my this is truly my favorite part of this This next-gen energy technologies movement and especially how This is all Funneling into this like home Dow mechanism. Yeah So let's let's talk about that. So so CLS Coming on board as a developer in the home Dow ecosystem So how did you guys get excited and involved about this and what excites you most about the mechanism itself? Yeah Well, Andy bit or with the GCE whom we've worked with before in the past had approaches with this along with another group that that we're all involved with and At the beginning because I don't have too much knowledge About you know blockchains and dows and things of that nature. I didn't at the time It was a really really interesting concept, right? And it was almost one of those things where it's like man, this this sounds too good to be true type-type deal but as You know Andy and some of our colleagues started explaining a little bit more and kind of just putting it down on paper like This is what it's all looking at my partner Kevin and I looked at each other like man We're we're either gonna be involved in something that's really really really groundbreaking if we decided to move forward with this and And I don't even think groundbreaking is the right word. I'm not even doing it justice, you know what this could be Or we're gonna just kind of stick to our own methodologies and and we're gonna miss out on something big So it's like do we want to jump in and take that risk and and we both had the same response And it was absolutely a hundred percent. And so we're really really excited that that we've been asked to kind of join and help and participate I think what it means from us or from me personally is Having my background in the in the financial industry and how everything is just so regulated, right? and things can get at times political or politically driven in the finance world this kind of Decentralizes all of that right and and now With like smart contracts and everything else. It's like there's these digital imprints that are already there that are proof There's no way around it. Everybody has to be transparent, right? And I think that word transparent is it is it is a great buzzword nowadays But I think people are overusing it, you know what I mean? but this is like the true spirit of transparency and And so everybody who is involved from Investors to the developers to even the end users. They all have that same level of transparency versus We know things that you don't know and we know things that you don't know, right? So that's probably one of the most exciting things about it is that is that that transparency is there for for all to see not only Which used to be the high-level investor groups knew everything, right? And you knew a little bit and they didn't know much now. Everybody's on the same playing field. Yeah, yeah and another one that That I got really excited about was when when we were designing the visual that we've had up in the Previous episode we did with Andy the first one that there's a streamlining of The funding to the developers for EPC. Yeah, and Do you talk also about like your excitement about that? Oh, yeah Yeah, that that as far as the the backend and the execution part that the funding aspect is is something I'm super excited about because now this allows Developers and EPCs that are out there who have been looking for funding or looking for the right funding partners in order to get projects done This kind of streamlines that process for them. It makes the process a lot easier for EPC to bring a client To the Dow so cool. Yeah And and so the end user who we really want to benefit from the system the most both financially and environmentally Gets to accomplish that right as to where today, you know, trying to find a debt stack or Capital stack that's going to finance one of these projects and you have to go through big banks with big fees and big interest and all that other Stuff Everything kind of gets diluted before it gets to the end. Whereas this process kind of mitigates that. Yeah Yeah so good and then How about How are the like existing how will home now How will that help the sort of the existing funnel or pipeline that is besides like the streamlining of funding and I'm just envisioning all of these Perspective clients that are very interested in what CLS Can offer to them and the home Dow sort of like Facilitating like the onboarding of this process with the streamlining funds and stuff. So you just speak to that Yeah, so and and to be quite frank without knowing having limited knowledge I guess on the process from the Dow's perspective Right now if we were to onboard a client to go through a traditional methodology of getting a Power purchase agreement or energy services agreement. There's a pretty long drawn-out process that that's in place right from Gaining any type of credentials that they have when it comes to their credit business credit sometimes personal credit of the business owner Structuring a deal Properly, but then there's also the fees and everything else that are going to be associated with that origination fees and so on and so forth so and again, it's a It's it's the back-end part of that That I think the Dow is going to eliminate Tremendously and make it so much simpler and easier for again all parties involved to go from point A to point B in a shorter period of time Get there a lot quicker, right? And I think what that means for a lot of the EPCs and developers that are out there unless you're a large developer large EPC who have either a Family office or a funding institution that that you've been working with for quite some time It's a lot more difficult for your your smaller your mid-sized ones to Cultivate and create those types of relationships to then be able to offer that to the off-taker, right? mode more importantly to Which I feel and things that we've talked about around the structure is actually giving the opportunity for the EPC and for the developer to Actually partake in the ownership aspect huge Of that facility which no financial institutions right now allow for developers or EPCs to come in and partake in that part That's cool. Yeah, cool so then there's the inclusive stakeholder of the EPC in the development process and there's the Facilitation of all those things that you're listing as variables at the very beginning to sort of Not need in a sense a lot of that into or into simplified down to smart contracts for sure in essence and then to And then to take sort of the power in a sense away from the old and bring it to the I Love how you called it the micro grid aspect which is like the ownership is local Yeah, and it's next-gen. Yeah, and this is so so exciting and We we have had a shorter like first episode we could say with deke But this is a great to even have had the first conversation about the history So crucial sort of all these little nuggets on the way that got us to CLS and Then what CLS is and then also how will be involved and honed out so it's a good solid first episode and we'll We'll be able to revisit this as we continue for sure blossoming this ecosystem We'll be able to revisit for continued episodes and continued Using this as like a magnet to like to attract people from around the world to get involved in this in this ecosystem of next-gen technologies for energy production and for Meeting the needs of people worldwide And then so much cool play is unlocked through that. Oh, absolutely. Yeah percent. Yeah, we're We're super excited about the opportunity where we're really excited that that where we've been asked to be involved in this And I just can't can't wait to see where it takes us all Yeah, and the stories are so good of like deke Devon Kevin's about to be the third episode on the homebound podcast and Like and just what you guys have built out truly like thank you for building this out for dedicating your lives to building out the transition to the next-gen tech and And for joining this mechanism were Thanks for having us. We appreciate it. Thank you for coming on. Thanks to the audience for tuning in. We usually appreciate you all We would love for you guys to check out the links in the bio below You can find the cls sustainable calm link down there. 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Cups out of cover. Off we go. Frankly, this is probably going to end up being the technology that powers the financial stack for the developed world. Y'all mind if I take a selfie?


So if you guys have been following my channel for a little while, you guys will remember the set of Bronson Raws I got a while ago, probably like four or five months ago. I haven't cleaned them once, and I decided to do a little science experiment. Had a ton of this germ-x hand sanitizer stuff. I mean, who doesn't have this stuff laying around the house? So I figured, if I pop my old bearings out of my wheels, put them in a little cup, and then dump a bunch of germ-x into my bearings and let them sit for 24 hours, what would happen? And that leads us to here, I suppose. This is the next day, guys. The bearings are looking, I don't know if you guys can see that, but they're looking pretty gnarly in there. There's bits of like, I don't know what that is, if that's early rust forming, or if that's like, I don't know, if that's dirt or something coming out of the bearings, but they're looking pretty weird right now. I've got to pull them out and then chuck them in and see if I can skate these things. And if they are cleaned after sitting in germ-x for 24 hours. I don't know what the appropriate way is to do this, so I'm just going to try to pull this hand sanitizer out and then pull the bearings out. Got some paper towel, look at that. It's like I'm pouring resin. Ooh, it's nasty, look at it. Hope I haven't completely ruined these bearings. Look at that, there we go. So I've got all the bearings out now. They're all spinning. They're not really spinning any more quicker than what they originally were before I soaked them in this germ-x. The ultimate test would be once I pop these in my wheels and try to skate, if they'll kind of free up a little bit more and spin a bit faster. I'm not too sure if you're meant to lube these because there's no cases on them. So if you were to clean them, I mean, you can clean them, but if you were to lube them, the lube would fall straight out the back. So I'm not too sure what the protocol is here with these Bronson rods. Are you supposed to lube them? I'm not too sure. I think they're just meant to be ran, just like raw like this. So I'm gonna pop these bearings into my current wheels and then head to the park and see how we go. I got up real early this morning, just so I could hit the park early so I knew it would be vacant. Because every time I come in the arbor, there's like 50 people here. So I've had a bit of a warm-up skate at the park today. Gonna pop out my G3s, probably need a bit of a clean too. So depending how well this little experiment goes, I might pop them into some hand sanitizer for 24 hours. But yeah, I'm gonna chuck in the raws right now and see how we go. This is probably gonna be the most stupidest idea ever, or the best idea ever. So we're about to find out. Bearings probably need a bit of a clean, they're a bit filthy. That's the inside edge, that's the outside edge. So yeah, these are the G2s though, Bronson G2s. So these are the raws here. They've just sat in hand sanitizer for 24 hours. Pulled them out, did my best to clean them. Gonna chuck them in, see how they go. We out here, and Sean's putting new bearings or alcohol bearings on his thing. Jermex. Jermex. Hand sanitizer. Hand sanitizer. 24 hour challenge. All right guys, we got the raws all situated in the wheels now, everything's bolted up. Don't seem to roll that bad for, you know, sitting in hand sanitizer for a day.  I'm pretty sure it has alcohol in it, so that's a cleaning agent. We should go and test these bad boys out, see how they handle it. How's that? For longevity, guys. Put your wheels on the flat. Oh, it's not. Sorry, Karina.  Yeah, go from there. There you go. Bend your knees, see you got it. All right guys, that pretty much wraps it up for this video. Hope you guys enjoyed this video. If anyone's wanting to do this to their own bearings, like put hand sanitizer in the bearings for a day, whatever, you can do that, but I won't be responsible if your bearings don't work after that. Once I pulled the bearings out of the wheels, they seemed to kind of, I don't know, they're not spinning as well anymore, but oh well, I got another set of bearings. I'll be sweet, I'll probably clean them up, put them in another board or something, but yeah. If you guys are new to my channel, make sure you hit that subscribe button, leave a thumbs up, drop me a comment below, make sure you follow me on Instagram, at anacism, to keep up to date with what I'm doing, but yeah, shouts out to all the new subscribers, Rode 20K, hopefully I'll see all you guys in the next video. Cheers for watching.


two projects here by the nerds from SeaWatch to save lives in the Mediterranean. The first is the SAR app to help getting resources to coordinate them, and Search Wing, which is a drone we use to help find refugees, and I'll try and give you an overview of the situation in the central Mediterranean. My name is Oben Neugebauer, and I'm a customer of SeaWatch. This is a SeaWatch organization that does sea rescues. We operate two ships in the Mediterranean. We help people survive this dangerous passage. We also try to political pressure in order to help improve the situation. How does the situation appear? The trip to Europe is difficult, particularly those people who don't have the right papers. People can go through the overland, over mountains, or over the much more dangerous Mediterranean trip. What this means, I've brought a couple numbers along. What does the number 16 mean? One sixteenth is the likelihood that you'll lose your life when trying an attempt to cross the Mediterranean. When you translate this to the room, if we'd all started, we would have lost 30 people. People think that people do this willingly, but why would they do this given the numbers? The numbers are from the Missing Migrants Project. That's a good source for these numbers. Over this year, the numbers have dropped down to one in 44. Not quite as dangerous, but it's still an unacceptable risk for us. People aren't victims of a natural disaster. These are a man-made disaster. The European Union had the capability to end this. They had the capability in their hands. But so long as there's no actual organized sea rescue mission, that's something we wanted to do. That's why we started this do-it-yourself search and rescue mission. This is Harold Hufner, a worker out of Brandenburg. We wanted to ask a question up front. In the entire time of the Berlin Wall, 183 people died. Outside the European borders in the last week, there's been 300 people who died. Here, for example, several families from Syria are going on a fully unacceptable old fisherman's boat because there's no other way to come to Europe. So they've built an old fisherman's boat and then rebuilt it into a relatively useful ship. This is a sea watch. It's not just about saving people, but also observe what's happening. This is what we've done from the beginning. We hacked the talk on this talk. So we continued and brought the ship into the Mediterranean. And we can see it here. That's the 12-mile zone. That's the radius where countries have influence on seawater. And our area of operation is the red-escaped one. And we're looking for people in need of rescue. And this is what we found in the 7th August of 2015. That was our key experience. And we came to the edge of our capabilities. We had 512 people. We had to help. And we were just out of our resources. We had a boat, which was just drifting on the sea. And there were people who were not drowning, but they weren't getting enough water. And that's why they were dying. And we kind of, we were taken aback that we just didn't find them over three days, even though they were in our area of observation. And so we kind of started a political action with the Spree boat and put 128 people from the Bundestag onto this boat to make them feel the politics on their own body. And then we decided to get a new ship that has medical facilities to treat dehydrated people. And we need aerial reconnaissance. It can't be that there's a ship drifting for three days and we can't see it. But there was a second key experience in the beginning. And that was our effort and the Igeis on the islands. And that was because lots of people have came together and helped the refugees from people who were professionally into that business up to hackers just helping. And the networks that evolved in the Igeis, they helped us in our operations in the Mediterranean. And four organizations in Germany followed this, this, our example. And these organizations also sent ships into the Mediterranean. And this can be a challenge. These 13 ships, which are in the Mediterranean now, must be coordinated. And then we can, we as techies can help there as well. And that's where our app comes into play. Even though we don't have this app in operation quite yet, we were able to save 20,000 people from drowning or dying, possibly dying in the Mediterranean. To show how this looks like, I'll show you a video. This is the situation in August. You see how the boat kind of starts to collapse because they're overloaded. And the, and the ground plates inside the boat just disintegrated the plastics and the, and the boat just starts to sink now. It was, it was a good fortune that we were on site with our ship and able to save the people. And we were able to give them, to give them help. But this can be very, very, this can end very differently. You can also see that we were together with the second organization. It was the organization, and they were there with their ship, Juventa. They took on board 400 people that day. We see the corporation general, or the coordination generally works. And here there's a new post where they again save 100 people from, from the Mediterranean. 2016 has been the most deadly year in, in our history. This is our colleague Martin, who has recovered it, died, baby. All in all, 5,000 people or above 5,000 people have died in the Mediterranean or on the borders of the European Union. If you want to solve this problem, it's not going to be, it's not going to be that easy. And the European Union has the capability of doing this. There is not even, there's only one European piece of legislation. And that's from 2001. And that says that the trans, the companies that are transferring the people are doing the, are doing the registration. But this is politically not quite possible yet. Therefore, the European Union is not likely to, to open up legal ways of immigration. And so we're thinking, we're wondering what we can do. And wondering what we can, or we can help. So we're back with aerial reconnaissance. We started a try. We bought a ultra lightweight aircraft. And we flew it down to the, to Tunis. And we had a few very, very productive. We had a very productive few days. And we actually found lots of boats. But the official, the officials down there reject, reject, or retracted our, our allowance to travel through their airspace. And that just shows that it's not, it's not able to do this. And it's politically not wanted that there's a civil eye watching what happens. And the cost of Tunis. And therefore, this hasn't worked until now. So this is our method of reconnaissance or primary method of reconnaissance. And you can picture that if it's a small boat on the horizon, it's practically impossible to see it. The other thing is that there's the Libyan Coast Guard is pushing us back. And we are, that we are violating different rights of the Libyan of the Libyan sea space. And therefore they're intervening in our rescue missions. And this is something which happens. And this is very, very important to document these kind of incidents. And there's another problem that we have. We are, we are, the other problem we have is that we're visible for far distance. And it's good on the one hand that they can find us and they can come towards us and that we can help them. But the problem is that we have, that we can rescue them, but we are quickly at the end of our capabilities. And we can kind of know which one is a higher priority to rescue or which is the other. Therefore, we said we need help. And that's what we need. Quite pragmatically, we have two projects. One is search wing. We have a drone, a model aircraft, which is equipped with cameras, and which is helping us to find the boats in time. And the other way of, the other project is the SAR app, which helps us coordinate the ships and gathers all the information needed to assess the situation. That's why I'm passing on to my colleague. So we had the situation when we started what, what working with Seawatch, that just was in the last year, around 12 organizations started working to try to help and rescue refugees from the Mediterranean. So we are now in need to coordinate which ship is going to rescue which boat of refugees. So we had the idea for this app to coordinate this. So we had this idea for this coordination app where we had one central structure where incidents could be reported to. And then after a boat has been reported, we could coordinate which rescue ship would be allocated to this boat. So it's a coordination system for all the rescue boats. I registered within. So also, and then also, also rescue, also boats in need of rescue are also reported to this app. So all the, all the NGOs see where all the rescue boats are going and also where the refugee boats and also the coast rescue has access to it. So everyone knows what's going on at the same time. So here we see how this looks like. So this is a map view and we also have a view for where there are the cases. On the left, there are different kinds of filters. On the left, there is like a system where you can see how urgent a situation a boat is in. And also you have an option where you can see the rescue boats and see which one is online or which one is currently not working. And you can also see if a ship entered in a new case of rescue. And here's a case of a few. So here you can see all the cases which are currently reported. And well, that's basically about it. So until now we have been working on this on our own the two of us. So we have started a prototype which is working currently, but we are in need of help. And we are hoping for your help. We are hoping you can help us with the security concept. We have a centralized system, which might be good to decentralize this. And also we are looking for geo-hackers. And people are knowledgeable about this. And like any other ideas which could help us to make this app better and faster. Hello, everyone. Ben Tuenstein. A thousand thanks to CWATCH. It's an incredible work that they're doing. Lots of applause. And the lack of responsibility of the European Union and the government's error is a massive shame. We've known about this CWATCH project. Lots of refugees from Turkey to Lesbos attempted to make the trip. And that's where the idea came that we can help with technical things such as a quadcopter. But this wasn't really enough for the right range. And so then we thought about what are some other things we could do that could help. How could we watch over a little bit of the coastal sea so it could actually help someone before they... so we could save them before they drown. That was the whole idea of a drone watch. We wanted to make something that actually helped. And that's where we thought we wanted to engage ourselves. And that's where we've done really happily to save people. So we consider what we needed to do. So the problem with the plane overwatch is pretty hard due to border issues and legal issues. And here's an example of one NGO drone on the far right. But this is an example of one cost like a half million euros. But that's not something we can do. Maybe if we get 10 euros from 150,000 people, but that's probably not possible. How can we get... we really wondered how can we get this as cheaply as possible. Something that was okay to lose. So we thought what are some of the scenarios, how to be used. So the first scenario, all I wanted to see if there's something beyond the horizon. That was the first scenario. Is there a boat beyond the horizon that needed to be saved potentially? So due to... because sometimes radar limitations couldn't get much more than 15 kilometers away. Could we send something perhaps an hour or two away? Just to be able to see when you've spotted something at a distance with radar. Can we see is a sailboat or some sort of fisherman boat or something? And we thought that drone would also be the sort of the second scenario. Could we see to see something and identify it after radar detection? So the idea was that we create this small drone. We just throw it in the area. We thrown into the air and we were remotely controlled. And we thought it would look a little difference along the coast of Lesbos. And we thought we would also... there could use IR cameras, find people in the water. And then the... that was our first scenario, but then the Turkey made the deal with the EU, which meant that all of a sudden that wasn't the high-risk transit zone anymore. So that's why we thought for the smaller one was more ideal for a ship launch and ship landing. Because it's a little harder to land on a ship, so we needed the small one. And then we... this thought was that we could also really increase the radius that the seawatch could see. So that it would still come back to the ship. And so you can see... this was our recommendation for the for the longer-range second scenario for maintaining an overwatch around the ship to increase the range. And so we had a bit of a learning curve. So we started out this way. We built... Yes, we found out that some people were doing long-distance FPV. And they built in a camera into the aircraft. And then they just put a lot of batteries into the aircraft. And they came like... had ranges of 200 kilometers. And they posted very boring videos on the internet. And then in those videos, 50 percent of the time, you just see water. So for like 200 euros, you can get the model and the engines and electronics. Yeah, so we started sticking stuff together and learned, well, this is not that trivial, as we thought. And so it was a bit... it's a bit more difficult. Ben, you had a model pilot because I'm not one. Yeah, we met people as we did... as we did a presentation on that. And he said, yeah, of course I can help because I build these things and can fly them for a long time. So it's... because if you can't fly them, it's difficult to test them. So we started our first experiment. And yeah, this is our learn curve, pretty literally. This was our first endurance test. And we wanted to see how long it can fly. And we said, okay, we'll just let it run circles above our airfield until the aircraft said it's gonna... and it's gonna be empty. So we stand there, it was raining, and the aircraft was doing its circles. And at one point it just... at the 51th turn, it just decided to do something different. And then it nearly... and it came down just like just over the... over the rims of the forest. So yeah. And then it came down there. So we had a bit more learning curve. And we noticed that Eitelkeit and Posertum just doesn't help with such a project. And we wanted to like do a low flight skimming and want to do like a bit of posing. And so yeah, we noticed that there was a conflict in the software. And yeah, there was a bug in the software that... Yeah, part of the software in this specific situation, this... the software just did something unexpected and went into... went into a tree. And for every one of these errors we have... we have a... we have a taped... taped the plane for that. So we have multiple videos to show you. Yeah, we supposedly had a video. I pressed on play. Help. Oh, they're all gone. It's also part of the learning curve. But yeah. This is an important part of a learning curve. This is a... This is the first curve it is flying completely autonomously. The cameraman was standing under the first curve. So the question was if we can do that again... This is just don't move. It'll work. Just don't get out of the way of it. And... Yeah, it worked. It came back and landed right in front of our feet. So we do have like kind of tasks. And this is the second one. It was like land in the net. And it just didn't. This is the second attempt. And it didn't. And the ship is normally moving on top of that. So there's nothing that can go wrong. What could possibly go wrong? So, hey, it's just Styrofoam. So you can glue it together. So now you can see the small aircraft in action. And yeah, it actually at one point it just starts working.  You're capable of landing inside a net. Another problem is to find the net. But that's something different. But the net landing isn't carved in stone. And there's other... And we're open for suggestions how to catch a drone with a minimum speed on a moving target. And there's the concept of... There's a... There has a trail... It trails away on a rope and then the rope just is caught by a rod. So the minimal velocity for these things is about 50 meters per second. So if we're landing against the wind, so our relative speed, if we're flying into the wind, if we're landing into the wind is slower, but we're having double turbulence is created by the wind hitting the ship. And then we're in a turbulence spot behind the ship. And therefore we have to fly with a higher speed. And yeah, on this point I want to say a friendly hello to the Etihad Zurich. Which unfortunately doesn't have a time for us because they need to start their commercial production. And the Etihad Zurich can build tail sitter, which then essentially hovers hanging on the propellers and land them on its tail. And we saw and we found it really cool. And it has a lot to do with a lot of partial differential equations, which is pretty complicated to solve. But the proof is made that it's possible. They're not saying how and they're saying that they would quite like to help us. But we would quite like to know how they're doing it and therefore... Of course, you can solve it easily. You take a copter software and a plane software. We have the idea of combining a copter with an aircraft. We're switching the software from an aircraft mode into a copter mode when the aircraft is in a vertical climb. And actually it is done that way and even though it's a bit strange. But the Etihad Zurich did it in one software solution and we would quite like to know how they did that. So help us appreciate it. So why don't you land on water and you're... And then we have to pick up the aircraft. And the simple solution is we have to let out a boat and then pick it up. And worst case scenario, we are actually going to do that. One of the questions we had was how to get the thing waterproof. And because saltwater is a... How to get a thing waterproof. And we found rubber that you can encapsulate the electronics in to get the electronics watertight. But this is plan C, the last option. Because if the drone like... If the drone like flies into the net and rebounds and lines in the water, we want to pick up the drone and hope that it still works. The idea was that we also... We wanted to include a Zatmodem but the Zatmodem was more expensive than the entire drone. So one day of aircraft operation costs like 700 euros. So technically for that money we can throw away like three aircraft. A proper aircraft throwing it away and that's like... That was the aircraft launch and the autonomous aircraft which then we had to take control of. So that was a flight into the woods quite literally. Always these trees that randomly appear in your flight path. Modern technology of presentation. That's how it looks like. The video was the 23rd December. And yeah, this morning the aircraft still looked exactly like that. And Styrofoam, you can still glue it together. Yeah, we actually wanted to show something. We want to show you which kind of decisions we did. We took while building it. And there's different software stacks that operate those. There are different hardware solutions for our use case. Because a lot of the technology for the drones is export control because it comes from the US. Because it's theoretically a microcontroller with just a standard bunch of sensors. Which is then wrapped in a bit of software. But the US obviously classifies this as a weapon. So on all these small sensors you can buy for your Arduino's on breakout boards. And we're momentarily using the Pixhawk. It actually has this problem that you can have to leave your name and a position of a number of documents. So we thought, yeah, we're real hackers. We're going to do it on Linux. So we're going to use a Raspberry Pi or something similar. And we're going to use that and put a real-time kernel on top of that. And then let the Arduino Pilot software run inside that. At the moment, we can let it run on this system. And because we don't only want to have the claims, we want to show you the video. And yeah, obviously it seems like it doesn't work. From a vendor in Spain, there's a small board. It's designed as a shield for the Raspberry Zero. And the Raspberry costs like five quid as a small board. And there's an ARM CPU on it. And it has two USB ports. And for example, this board, you have a sensor shield where people do quadrocopter hacking with. And there's a gyroscope on it. There's a pressure sensor on it that you can attach a GPS module to it. And it's in there also. They're also shipping it with a special Linux distribution, which you have to register to download. Essentially, it's used for copters. And they've got two videos from their many, where they're using it for aircraft. If we, yeah, we essentially notice that if we compile ourself at sex faults and the signaling on the CPU just has latencies we can control. And everything comes in. Everything starts jittering, even though we didn't do anything. So we're not as far as that yet. We're sure that this is doable. So we have thought of a few challenges that we want to talk to you about. And we think there's reasonable that it's doable on a real Linux real-time operating system. So we think it makes sense to develop our own sensor board to put on a Linux PC. Or maybe we could also find a very tiny processor to put on the sensor board. We don't really care which way around. So this would be one of the challenges. And the second core challenge, well, a third core challenge, apart from landing into this net. And also like how to find the, like for the net, how to find the center of this net. How do we calculate it? So if we take the edges of the net and like then give it to the drone. And it should be following this coordinates with all the waves and stuff. And it's landing in the net in the end. So we are still working on this. And our search and probably most interesting challenge is the how to transmit the data from the drone to the ship, actually. So that's a, the watch can actually use it. So we have tried to transmit video with an analog system and with infrared. And maybe then there is someone sitting in front of a monitor for two hours where nothing is happening, which is completely empty, hoping for something to just come along quite quickly, which you might, which might have been someone you should have to rescue. So yeah, that doesn't really work. So for the small one, we are, we think that might be working. But for the big one, we have thought about something, something different. It should be flying in quite a high altitude. And it's again about being really cheap. And standard technologies, standard transmission technology. Well, we thought that would be Wi-Fi. So that, that would be cheap for like quite little money. So we are in international waters. So no one should, should be able to do any harm to a Wi-Fi transmission. So on the ship, we were thinking about having a telco antenna, which we can put into a circle. So with small raspies and transmission, and we're doing software diversity and doing a Wi-Fi broadcast. So anyone who has done anything about Wi-Fi broadcast, like not only know what it is, but has seriously worked with it, we could really need some help because we are still having quite a lot of difficulties with this. So if you just blast that data you did, well, the data is still coming out on the other side, but there is a lot of errors coming out. So we need a better protocol, which works good for this. We want to fly in a quite high altitude and take pictures of the sea. Take pictures of the sea and on the sea watch, just a couple of minutes later, someone can look at these pictures and analyze if they can see anything on this picture. So this is an area we need, where we need help. So it doesn't really have to be Wi-Fi, but it has to be something, it can be something else if you have a better idea. So it shouldn't be more than maybe 15 years of hardware, because otherwise we can't use it. It might be better, but we want off-the-shelf hardware, which is really cheap. And the next problem is to take pictures from above, and we need high-resolution consumer cameras, which have 10 to 12 megapixels. And just a short while ago, that was very easy, but right now we can't find any consumer camera, which I can control from Linux remotely and get the picture in the end on my computer. The most similar thing we found was a Sony camera, which only has the interface of Wi-Fi. So this is developed to be paired with a smartphone, and this is quite complicated. If you have a very strong Wi-Fi next to it, this isn't going to work. So we have this antenna from the recipe to pull a string around it. We don't know, it's kind of an interface. So we have this camera, if anyone feels capable to work with this camera, which might not need connection via Wi-Fi, that would be super cool. You can hack on it. It doesn't matter if you break it, if it helps to develop something that works, that's fine. Do we have another challenge? Well, maybe a ground station. The ground station is not really a challenge. Maybe a few words about it. So all the software you have for the ground station is just crap. The best thing we found is Pison. So just talk Mufflink. Mufflink is awesome. That's a protocol we can talk to the drones. That's why the ground station is used to talk to the drones. With this pseudo shell, we can do more than the ground station can do. We want to build our own ground station with this shell. What we want to do is we get a next Y coordinate from the radar, we dial it into our system, we just throw it off and it goes and it does stuff. So we do have another video. We can show you how that looks from above. The camera is just attached with tape. That's how it looks from our standard test flight. This is the perspective. We can see details on the water surface. That's how it should look. This is about 300 meters. So these are upcoming monestones. We have now 100 kilometers of range with this with one of the batteries. But there are two in there. So we are thinking that we can double the range. So we're thinking that we're using 100 kilometers as operational range and the 100 kilometers as reserve for like wind and other stuff. So we want to develop software to help all of these organizations that want to save lives and improve the life of humans in need, which is wholesomely used for these purposes. So we're working on a lot at a license which then prohibits the use for the software in military or non-human applications. We have one video, we still remains. I went to show that it was fun. This is from our workshop. Sadly this is without background so I think that it has a nice waltz in the background. But until now it was terribly fun even with the challenges we faced. We learned really much things doing this project and we're asking for your support, help us. Help us develop this software into something usable for Seawatch and other organizations to help people and yeah, thank you. Downstairs we have in the Hack Center we do have close to the bar, we have an assembly. We're happy if you come along and talk to us, talk to Seawatch. Give us cool hardware or show us the partners in the direction of it. We can think of situations that we can 3D print them and that 3D printer models actually fly and we're open for everything. All of ideas that you have. Also what the Grand Station is concerned we want to have.  And yeah, we want to hang the aircraft under the ceiling so you see where we are so yeah. So we still have 10 minutes for questions. Please stand by the microphones. Yes, question. Two points of information for you. Have you thought of Lora for the transmit, for the transmit receive? We can for on that long range we can transmit not video data but like asynchronously for the long range and also can you use deep learning for recognition of boats on seawater. So essentially we probably want to do that on the aircraft. Therefore we need enough CPU power on the aircraft to do the recognition of the of the boats. But the first priority is video transmission. To your first comment, we haven't heard of it, we haven't heard of that technology. And as we already said we have the requirement that the hardware is not allowed to be. We do have bandwidth requirements and we have a normal a distance between the ship and aircraft of three to your 40 kilometers. And we want to transmit two megabytes per minute. If it's possible with that and if it's if it's possible for less than 20 euros and let us talk about it. If you can determine what is just water and what is not. Let's come back to our milestones. In March we want to put our first pilot into into practice. Because there are humans dying out there so we have to get going. We're going to do something that works now and it can get better but so we think Wi-Fi is the best course of action for this immediate time. Question from the internet? You said you need a He said you need a Alternate form of So Use this nylon strips to entangle the propellers and then use that to do that. But essentially this is just a net. I've also got a question for the net landing. So you said you want to calculate the point the center of the net over GPS. Have you thought about doing that optically? We thought of letting an IR We thought of an IR LED blinking and just track that. We thought of mounting cameras on the ship and then just It's possible of controlling the aircraft pretty well over this math uplink. So we're going to use then We can use that on the ship to target the aircraft into the net. So thanks for all your effort for the app and with the drones. Thank you for that effort. You have very you have very hard requirements and a very tough time plan. So do you have a website where you have a website with the expertise you need? We've got our website answer. We've got our website search wing.org It's hashtag search wing. Next thing we want so we're just waiting for the Congress to finish and then we want to carry together what still need to be done. So come to our website and you can see what we published there. Next question. For me a quite important question the altitude you want to fly at So at the height of one kilometers you have to take care of anti-collision with other aircraft. And there's a And our solution for that problem is we're just going to we're just going to broadcast the position of the aircraft to other organizations and then this is something we can just and what we essentially we don't need this transmitter then and we're flying over international waters and Essentially It's not we're in international airspace so So just So we're over international waters and we we're not we're not thinking of collision anti-collision systems quite yet because it's also birds that are they're heavier than those. I've you heard of project Marvin from to Berlin yes good So I don't think this is actually an actual working working product or am I wrong about that and the responses actually it started in 2013 and the and the the scenario they're working on is very similar and maybe you can use some of their algorithms that they're using but things have changed a lot so perhaps this doesn't apply we're actually more interested on actual capabilities in particularly with an underline they could possibly do this and the last question I've worked with digital photography for a few years and then there's a lot of different digital digital camera firmwares exist and there's some that are open that we could use and there is something called CEDK which unfortunately doesn't work with most modern cameras there are some cameras for some software for reflex cameras but we don't have that lots of applause thank you and thanks again for listening please give feedback on the translation to hashtag c3t that's


Nine weeks have led to this point for the remaining high school football teams. It's state tournament time and it's winter go home at this point. We kick off our state tournament coverage in Class 2A Pillager taking on Barnesville in quarterfinal action. And the Huskies ran into a freight train early Barnesville's Brady Tweetin finds the end zone for the early lead and the Trojans go up eight after the two-point conversion. Later, it's Tweetin again, Trojans they're just feeding him all game. He navigates his way through the Husky defense for his second touchdown in the 16-0 lead and Barnesville takes down Pillager tonight ending their season 42-214. Staying in Class 2A action, Royalton facing Eden Valley Watkins and the Royals are trailing by seven but Cole Wentman took a punt return 75 yards down the field to make the score 7-6 and then Eagles pushed their lead to 14-6 but Royalton's Michael Petrin would take momentum back from this next play staying outside of the defense. Petrin manages to make it nearly all the way to the end zone before he's ran out of bounds and then Petrin would connect with Lewis Fulford to bring the Royals back and they go up 14-12 but Eden Valley Watkins excuse me will go up 20-12 heading to the fourth and they'd win tonight by a final of 29-12 ending Royals since season. If you've enjoyed this segment of Lakeland news please consider making a tax deductible contribution to Lakeland Public Television.


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