My line of work can be controversial, to say the least. There are many misconceptions about hitmen or assassins. Some people think you can order one on the deep web, and others think that only elite organizations have access to people like me. However, in actuality, it's just about knowing the right people, well, that in having access to a pretty hefty wallet. I've been hired to take out businessmen, politicians, and even cheating spouses. You see, when you live in a world like mine, sometimes the only thing that stays the same is your moral code. I've been approached by clients in the past who've wanted the competition removed from their political campaign, and once I even had someone try to hire me so I could take out their elementary school bully. I've always rejected offers like these. Sliding a knife into the jugular of a father can be hard. But knowing that the father had done something truly evil. That makes it a little easier. So when I stood over the corpse of an ice cream man who'd been accused of eating children, I should have held no remorse, but something felt wrong. I take my contract seriously, and I only take the ones I feel passionately about. About a week earlier, I was approached by a man who said he needed a job done. We met at a local dive bar where he handed me a plain folder. I opened it and took a look at the documents inside. There were several pieces of paper explaining the situation and the person he wanted taken out. Along with the papers were several large printed photos. I leaned into the back corner of the booth I was sitting at to ensure that no one else could see the gruesome images I held in my hands. After looking over them, I made eye contact with a man sitting across from me.  Why don't you turn the scumbag into the police? I said and threw the papers on the table. He looked at me and then pointed at one of the photos. That one's mine. He spoke softly and I could hear the pain in his voice. He then stood up, reached out for my hand and said, I hope you'll accept my contract. The best I can do is 50,000. I'll give you 25 tomorrow if you accept and 25 when the deed is done. I did what the police couldn't do. I found him.  If you don't feel up to it, I understand. The photo he pointed at was enough to send chills down my spine and that's saying a lot. It was taken in what looked like a back alley. It was shot directly over a body. The body of a child, a young boy, bloodied and mangled. He couldn't have been more than 12. Giant bite marks were taken out of the boy's torso, left thigh and face. This wasn't unlike the other photos the man had handed me. They were ultimately all the same. A child typically between the ages of seven and 13 mangled in an alley covered in bite marks. Some were girls, some were boys. It didn't matter. I knew I had to accept this contract. I didn't care about the money.  I'd do it for free, I said. But unfortunately, this is a costly business. Nonetheless, I accept. I stood up and met the man's handshake. He nodded and turned for the door of the bar. I watched him exit and then went back to my seat. I analyzed the documents for several more moments before downing my drink and eventually making my way for the door as well. Initially, I was opposed to the contract. After all, I'm a hired killer, not a vigilante. But my job was taking a toll on my conscience. And I figured that avenging the man's son would help my mental state. Obviously, I didn't do it just for myself. I'm a man who once wanted a family too. And in that sense, I could empathize for the man. Although I'd never experienced a loss like that, I couldn't even imagine the pain he must have gone through. Plus, he'd done all the detective work himself.  Fast forward a week, the man wired me the 25,000. And I got geared up, scouted the target, and eventually I went in for the kill. I sneaked him through an unlocked window and found myself in the bedroom of an elderly man. I walked over to the side of his bed and raised the aluminum baseball bat I held in my hands over his head. I brought it down with a swift crack. Just like that, he was dead.  In this moment, I found myself remembering the photos the man had given me. It relieved my conscience ever so slightly.  I wiped the blood off my brow and stepped away from the bed, struggling to feel good about the deed I'd done. I turned away and put the baseball bat into the duffel bag I carried over my back. This prevented the blood from dripping off the bat, ultimately covering my tracks. By the way, if you're wondering why I was using a baseball bat, it's because it's a lot harder to trace back to you than a gun, knife, or even poison. Blunt objects are the way to go if your job relies on you not getting caught. My eyes began to adjust to the dark as I stood in the man's bedroom for longer. I glanced around and noticed several things. First of all, the man was sleeping alone in a double bed which meant his wife was about to walk in on her husband's corpse and his killer, or the man's wife had passed away leaving him broken and alone. My question was answered soon thereafter when I noticed a large black and gold urn located atop the man's dresser. I felt sorry for him, of course, but I assumed that her death was the final straw before he mentally broke. Then a photo on the wall next to the window I'd come in through caught my eye. It was a photo of the man above with his arms around a young woman and a slightly older, but still young man. They were clearly the man's children. Remember when I said that knowing a father had done something truly terrible makes it easier to kill him? Well, if you find out afterwards that he wasn't doing something terrible, it makes the whole thing much more traumatic. I was confused because I knew this was the target. I'd seen him get in and out of the ice cream truck he drove during the summer months. Everything lined up except for the man's decor. I typically make my killings as quick as possible, but not this time. I needed to know if this was truly the man behind those despicable murders. His hallway was lined with more family photos, some with and some without his late wife. His place was clean and had that iconic old person scent. I mean there were some dirty dishes in the kitchen and an unfolded blanket in the living room draped over a large brown recliner, but nothing out of the ordinary. I looked all over for a basement or attic which he might have used to store the bodies of young children. However, instead, I was met with a crucifix over the mantle in a DVD collection which contained nothing over PG-13. After my analysis of the old man's home, I swiftly exited the way I came, murmuring a small apology before I left out the window. My head hung low the entire drive home, I knew I'd made a mistake and planned on contacting the man who hired me the next morning. Things didn't line up. The man who hired me couldn't have been bullshitting me, I saw the pain in his eyes. Yet, the man who I just murdered clearly wasn't the one behind the brutal killings of half a dozen children. I pondered what to do next and ultimately I decided that this was the last job I could ever take.  I could no longer in good conscience continue to kill for money. I did in fact contact the man the next morning. He was clearly disturbed by the news I brought to his attention and offered to pay me in full despite the job going south, but I had to refuse. I even wired him the 25,000 he'd originally sent my way. I was still sitting comfortably, but had to start looking for a new job. Surprisingly it's hard to find a new job when your entire resume is based on taking lives. I kept looking, but struggled to find anything. About a month ago, I had to move out of my house and into a studio apartment. I still had enough money to stay safe, but the rent in my old place was too much to continue living there. Last night since that last job include me drinking myself to death and trying to figure out who was really behind those murders. Yesterday, I took a drive past the old man's house. I do it every so often hoping that I'd see the old bastard out in the front yard mowing the lawn or even see him in the large recliner through the window. However, instead, I discovered that a new family had moved in. The kids were in the front yard bundled in their winter clothes rolling large snowballs for the base of what I assumed to be a snowman. As I drove by the house, an ice cream truck passed me going the opposite direction. I looked in the rear view mirror and watched as it pulled up in the front of the yard where the kids were playing. Who drove an ice cream truck in mid-February? However, that's not what caused my heart to feel like it had stopped pumping. I saw the driver of the truck. It was the old man who I last saw bleeding from every orifice on his face. I pulled into the nearest driveway, reversed, and made the fastest three-point turn in recorded history. As I approached the house, I watched in terror as an unseen force reached its long arms out and dragged the small girl through the large window on the side of the truck. The boy scrambled backwards and then bolted for the house. I was a ways away, but I could still hear the screams. I don't know if they were the boys or girls. I took off after the ice cream truck. I followed it for about 10 minutes before the suburbs began to turn into the inner city. Without turning on his blinker, he took a sharp right turn into an alley I hadn't even noticed. I continued going straight and then pulled off to the side of the road. My hands shook violently with adrenaline. I hadn't felt a rush like this in years. I threw open the car door and half jogged, half walked to the mouth of the alley. I had to hold myself back from running straight into it. Boy, was I glad I did. I peeked around the corner of the alley and found myself face to face with the most disturbing creature I'd ever laid my eyes on. It was easily eight feet tall. It had leathery dark brown skin, at least 15 beady black eyes, no nose, needle like spines up and down its back and a mouth that could fit a full grown man. It was hunched over the body of the young girl. Her pink coat and beanie were splashed with red.  Its jaw unhinged as the bottom mandible split in half. There was a bright flash and suddenly I was no longer face to face with a hellish beast. Instead, I found myself looking into the eyes of a young girl wearing a pink winter coat and a beanie with one of those little poofs on the top. You found me. The girl said softly as she formed a smile, a smile with teeth that resembled knives rather than nose of a human. I pulled my head back behind the wall and after a few seconds I took another peek. The girl was still there, now hunched over her body tearing flesh and blood out of her own small corpse. She paused her feast and looked up at me yet again. An intestine hung out of her mouth and she sucked it up in the same way a person might eat a spaghetti noodle. I took cover behind the wall again but this time I didn't look back in the alley. Instead, I went back to my car and drove back to my apartment. I haven't been able to get the creature out of my head since then. I decided I'd share my story before turning myself in. I don't want to live as a free man anymore, partially because I know I deserve to go to prison but mostly because I no longer want to walk the same streets as that monster.


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Thank you, Carl, for inviting me here. I thought for a while why I'm here. And I think part of the reason is that there's a big elephant in the room in these discussions, and that's the commercial legal information industry. And I think I'm here to tell you how big the elephant is, and maybe a little bit about where it's moving. And some of the directions it might take in light of all of the open access stuff that we're talking about. Carl mentioned that Outtel, the company where he is, the gardener of the legal industry, legal information industry. But actually, we're the gardener of the whole information industry, not just legal. And that's a big part of what we do in it, and a big part of what we can bring to this discussion is the understanding that we've learned from studying other segments of the information industry, such as scientific and medical and technical publishing, or the news industry, or market research industry, or all of the several sectors of the industry that we track. We're a research and analysis company that serves that industry. We collect data about publishers and their markets. We serve people in those companies, but we also serve clients among big content buyers, such as libraries, corporate libraries, and also academic and public libraries as well. We collect a lot of data about the different players, so in other words, all the companies that are in one way or another, a publisher or an information provider. And we serve our clients through a variety of services, including reports and data and analysis and sort of consulting type services. The way we do the industry is helping information companies grow their revenues, understand what's going on in the world, know where to move in the future. And so our focus is quite a bit on the established companies, the big name publishers that you all recognize. And we do a lot of research on their markets. So what's going on with end users? What trends do we see among end users? How much time do they spend using information? How much money do they spend using things like that? We also track the technologies that are going into the publishing industry and try to keep our clients up to date on that stuff. And one of the reasons this whole lot of initiatives interested to me is that we also keep track of destructive forces out there in the marketplace. Who are the destructive end users? What are the new business models that are coming along as a result of new technologies that are either threats or opportunities to a lot of the established players? So I thought I'd start by just taking, sort of, painting a picture of the legal information industry as we do it. And what are some of the dynamics in recent years? What are some of the things I see going on in the future? And just in terms of numbers, I want to do first paint a little context of the entire industry. So as I said, we track a lot of segments of the information industry. And the whole shebang is $365 billion worth. Of that, about $14.5 billion is legal. So legal is actually a fairly small segment of the overall information industry. And our $365 billion doesn't include some things like entertainment and entertainment-type content. It's mostly business-to-business publishers and sources. So in that context, legal is fairly small. The blue lines show the global revenues over the past few years and projected up to 2012. The sad-looking line in the middle is 2009, where the industry lost 8.5% of its value during the current recession. So there's a lot going on in the industry because of the global recession. It has definitely affected the publishing industry. But also, a lot of that effect is the result of technology and its constant push and pressures on the industry. So if we zoom in a little more on just legal, here's what it looks like. It's a little more flat. It's a little more stable than the overall industry. And if you ran this 2007 back to, say, 2002 or so, it's pretty flat. It's a pretty boring industry in terms of fluctuations in revenues. It's pretty stable. A lot of the revenues in the industry are subscription-based. And that helps even out fluctuations in the economy. But even so, 2009 was a tough year for the legal information industry. For the first year since we've been tracking it, it went negative. And we're expecting it to slowly recover. Actually, I think this might be a little optimistic for 2010 at 2% growth. But it'll eventually, I think, get back up to somewhere at a 5% range. If you extend this back, the growth rates were typically in the 5% to 7% every year. So that's what we're talking about. The legal tax and regulatory publishers of the world generate $14.5 billion in revenue. How is that split up among the various providers? Well, as you all know, there's three really big legal publishers in the world, Thompson Reuters, Walters Cluer, and Reed Elsevier, which owns Lexus Nexus. And together, they account for 75% of those $14.5 billion in revenue. And I think what's fascinating about this is that aside from the B&A here, and a couple of associations, probably not a lot of those players are familiar to a lot of us. And that says a lot that there's sort of nobody left out there for them, for the big three to acquire that you might recognize. If you look at that, if you take away this chunk, it kind of looks like a pac-man going after everybody else. And that's pretty much what happened over the past several decades, those three players have acquired quite a bit of the legal information market through acquisitions, but also through organic growth. It's not just that. So that's a picture of the market share with the three big players. Here's a little more specifics on how much revenue each of them has and how much the growth rates was like in 2009. It's a little bit tricky with growth rates because the big three players report their revenues in three different currencies. And currency fluctuations just make comparisons very difficult. And it's not just that they earn all their money in Europe, for example. You have less as nexus, which earns a lot of money over here reporting its revenues in pounds. And then we're converting it back into dollars. So there's a lot of stuff going on that makes it a little bit hard to compare growth rates, company to company. The reason we convert everything to dollars is just to have one currency that we can say, OK, here's how big the whole industry is. But if you wanted to compare company to company, it's a little more useful to go back to their native currencies and see what the growth in their native currency was. But anyway, having said that, and then also you see that there are some places that were more affected by currency growth than others. The actual growth rates of the rest of the top 10 were fairly flat across the board. But if you're in Japan, that means your revenues went up in dollars. But if you're in Europe, it means the currency exchange rates means your revenues went down in dollars. So that's a little tricky. And then the long tail of the industry is about $1.6 billion of all the companies, the revenues of all the companies that are smaller than this top 10. So that's the big picture. So of that $14 and 1 half billion in revenue, I think one of the questions that's relevant to this discussion is, if we're focused on, for the purposes of today, the US, and it's all about surfacing and making available primary legal documents, then one interesting question is, OK, how much of that $14 and 1 half billion is private companies selling access to public documents? But what's the share of that money that we as a society are spending with private companies, with commercial publishers, to get access to our own data? And that's a really hard question. And I think you'll see why.  So about a third of the market is non-US, primarily Europe and Japan, and a few other Asian countries. That cuts it down a little bit. You can also take out non-research products. As I'll get to in a minute, one of the things that the major publishers, like Topson, and that's this Nexus, and most of all, have done is move to other areas other than research and information. They sell software. They sell software to help you run your law firm. They sell all kinds of non-research products. So that means about half of the $14 and 1 half billion that's kind of research products. But yet to make another distinction, and that is what share of that half is primary research, primary legal sources versus secondary research. So as you know, publishers publish treatises, they publish articles, they publish journals, they publish all kinds of stuff that's editorial content. That's not primary legal sources provided by public age, public bodies. There are lots of products that mix pure data from government sources with analytical tools or a layer of finding tools or a layer of metadata that's editorial provided. So I don't know where to draw the line, right? But if you took it at about 50-50, if you said, let's say half of what the major providers provide is primary, what they're selling is access to primary sources. It would be about $3 and 1 half billion. But I'm willing to have an argument about where that percentage and where that line should be. Because I don't really know. I find it very hard to pick apart what exactly, when you do a search on West Tower, like this, or search some of them, while there's bluers out by tax products, what share, the money you're spending, is going to the documents versus going to the service you're getting, the metadata, the decent use, et cetera, the aggregation. So that's kind of a picture that's kind of intended as a spoof or thought, because I don't think it's a definitive answer. There's a couple more things that I wanted to just take a step back and talk about in terms of the question of where the industry is going. In terms of the recent past, let's take a look at. And now, from here on out, I'm kind of focusing on the big three, Thompson and Dustin and the next is the Malmö Steward. The recession has really hit the legal industry hard. For the first time, I think you really see a major redrenchment and real difficulties in that industry. And even the largest law firms, and I've undergone a lot of wrongs and layoffs, maybe things are stabilizing a little bit now. But that major law firm market is the biggest market for the big three players. And that accounts for the dip, by and large. Those best customers are under intense pressure to cut costs. And corporate counsel, who are the people who hire those law firms, are starting to turn the screws, are starting to become innovative themselves in how they're calling the shots a little more on how they do business with major law firms. And that's affecting the revenues that go into law firms and the money that's then available to publishers. So that's one thing that's going on. Another thing that's going on in the buyer marketplace, if you look at law libraries, particularly law firm libraries, they are still functioning like libraries used to do. For all the innovation that's gone on, I think the incredible growth in the big law in the sector of the law firm industry has meant that law libraries in law firms have kind of shielded from some of the same pressures that have affected corporate law libraries. And so I think law firm libraries are maybe five or 10 years behind corporate libraries in their sort of transition to new ways of doing things. And those new ways include a lot of a different approach to purchasing, a different approach to the library being a separate entity versus having skillful information professionals out in the organization as part of the multi-functional teams of researchers. So that law library market sector for these publishers is under a lot of pressure, too. There are two areas that have been pretty good for the major law firms, or at least the areas where they tend to be looking for growth, since the core legal market here in the States is pretty well saturated. A lot of them are looking to international markets, and a lot of them are looking to practice related software services. So I'll take the international piece. Compton just bought a Brazilian publisher this week. There's a lot of activity going on in China and India, our major areas for development for all three of these publishers. So that's one part of the world where they're seeing better growth than they're getting out of the domestic market. And then, as I mentioned, they're also producing more and more software service-type offerings. So in addition to buying your research from the West, you could buy workflow software. You could buy case management systems. You could buy practice management. You can even buy consultancy services from Hildegrands. You can use fine law to market your firm. And then they also serve, of course, the educational sector, not just law schools, but also continuing education. So it's not your father's West Law or Lexus-Nexus anymore. They've infiltrated their way into market sectors that are different from just research or product sectors, I should say. So they're offering a wider range of services, but still primarily focused on that law firm. If you think about it, I mean, if you talk to people from, I worked at Compton at West in the 1980s. And I've talked to people who work there now. And it's a completely different mindset. They were a publisher in 1985. Today, they have a professional services and software mindset. So that's kind of the recent past. Now let's look forward. What's going on? I think there's a couple themes swirling around the commercial publishers that are interrelated. And I think there's going to be a lot of change for the legal services industry. And that's going to be changed for the information industry as well. The first is what we're talking about today, open access. Expectations among users and buyers are changing very fast. They expect everything to be open, timely, free. The issue of cost, which has been alluded to several times here, is that making access to primary legal documents cheaper will not only benefit the newbies, the past cases of the world, but also the little benefits of it. And that's just if they want to use that new, newly available product for new products. The big distinction here is I think we're moving to a conception of open access from that it's about data, not documents. It's not about courts or legislatures publishing documents, and that's called open access. It's about them making that data available freely for other people to use, to build upon, to add, to manipulate, to go buy with other sources. So I think that's one big front of activity that's affecting the commercial industry as well. The next big trend is I think the availability of technology in general is leveling the playing field between the big law firms and the small ones and the solo players.  You can do your research on fast kits or case maker. You can use RocketMatter to set up your whole firm's infrastructure. You can blog, you can use social media to market yourself. If you want to make cheap routine services available to clients, you can use a service like DirectLog, which kind of helps you build a virtual law firm. So there's lots of things in motion that are making it easier for the small firms to do business. And it's kind of an open question of will the big players be interested in that market or not. And so far, to me, it looks like not that much. I think there's lots of small competitors that are coming into that space that are grabbing a lot of the share of that sector of the legal services industry. The other of the four big things that's sort of swirling around out there is, I guess you can call it in general, peer-to-peer collaboration or socialization of legal commentary or just plain social media. There are ways in which lawyers are sharing information with each other that in many ways bypass the need for published information. They're helping each other find information they need.  And it's all being done in a social way and in a free way. And so some of the things that publishers used to do are, I won't say unnecessary, but are diminishing in performance. One interesting thing I think in terms of what's hot in terms of content is that more and more legal information products focusing on the practical aspects of the practice of law, not just the what, what did the court decide, what does the statute say. But the how of it, I need to do this filing next week. What do I need to do to do the filing? What are the steps? And companies like the Practical Law Company is a good example of somebody who's coming into a commodity place and constructing kind of a whole new kind of information product that's not just about finding the primary law, but actually helping lawyers walk through the process, the how of practicing law. And of course, the idea of open access to legal content really plays well into that increased use of social media in collaboration among lawyers. So there again, these trends are kind of interrelated. And then finally, the piece of this that I think is really most interesting in the law term is whether there will be a sustainable and growing market for consumer level legal information. And I think a lot of what we talk about here is giving the average citizen in touch with the content, the legal content that they need from their government. But it can go a lot of directions because a lot of the space and a lot of legal content isn't all that useful to an ordinary consumer. So sure, you can search cases on Google Scholar. But what does that do for me as a consumer? It requires levels of interpretation. It doesn't answer any direct questions. But stuff like building permits, liquor licenses, other more practical things that we don't fall into more broader definition of what's legal information are going to be a really hot area for innovation once they're set free. If companies can come in and start using some of that kind of data, mashing it up with other data, building applications on top of that, there you've got something. And then I see sort of a spectrum also from consumers to there's a lot of non-lawyers in the corporate markets that need access to legal information. So law for non-lawyers, I think that's going to be another area that's sort of a little bit over from the consumer market, where they need quite technical information. Maybe they need the building permits or they need the violence from various regulations or agencies, that kind of thing. So I think this sort of non-lawyer market is the big unknown, but it's also the big opportunity for this whole movement. And I think that's what's being their movement. So just to go back and sum things up, I've heard Carl, I've heard you talk about three big values, justice, democracy, and innovation, all of which this open access movement is serving. And I think the really interesting one is the innovation because without the innovation, the justice and the democracy is not going to happen. I mean, as we've been hearing these horror stories of the current state of where public information is, we really need to work on the technical side of things before the democracy and the justice can start to happen. But I don't think people tend to have this paradigm of set legal information free. That means, oh, we're going to have a Westlaw Alexis, but it's going to be free. I don't think that's really where things are going. I think the real end game is finding new markets for the information, as I said, with consumers, with small business people, with solo practitioner lawyers and people like that. Those are new markets that are very poorly served by the legal services industry today. And that could really benefit from some of the innovation that we're talking about here. So I think that the big publishers are going to continue to focus on their core market, which is big law firms, corporate tonsil, they're going to do fine. They're going to have to adjust, but they're going to do fine. The open access movement is going to create or help create a lot of new latent markets. And then what happens with this is that as all this stuff gets infiltrated into these consumer markets and lawyers at big law firms start seeing people using services and tools that are cheap and free and fun, they're going to start to ask, why can't I have that? And some of the big products and services and price points of the big publishers are going to be under continued pressure through this whole period because of the way that the innovative new products are going to make life easier for a lot of people and everyone is going to want to have it. So that's about what I had to say and what was useful. Any questions? John Mayer from Cali. So it seemed to me that the strategy of the big three would be to let the market place innovate, the small firm, and then buy some of these small guys up. Is that a pattern from them buying all the, or are you buying all the small publishers in the consolidation? Why wouldn't consolidation just happen in that innovation market as well? I wouldn't bet against that happening. But on the other hand, I mean, the big three have, they always face strategic choices about different markets. That if the consumer market really is something where they see a lot of this coming to fruit and some small companies start making a lot of money there, sure, that's a possible choice. But it's also an entail the choice to go into consumer markets in a bigger way than they already are. Is the open source movement from your perspective, you mentioned that you also try to spot disruptive forces in the market. Is the open source movement of getting information available and creating applications for it, seen as the major disruptive force or not, and whether yes, positive or negative kind of pooms? I think it is very much the disruptive force. Again, if you look across the whole information industry, just by analogy, I mean, it's caused a lot of disruption for the scientific publishing industry, for example. Open access to scientific publishing has caused a lot of change there. So yeah, certainly it's going to bring price pressures and all kinds of trouble. There's some sectors that are more troubled by other policy forces than others. The news industry is the fascinating case of the industry. But it's not so much open access as much as it's the flavor of open access and the openness and the freedom of the news about that so far in the industry. Yeah, I had a question. So the $7 billion in the primary, secondary access to US materials, right? Not trying to split it up, but what the primary is. How much do federal and state governments spend? And how much do our law schools spend? Do you have any idea? I don't have a good number off my head, but it's the vast majority of it is still private. We're in the market. Time for one more question, and we're ready for lunch. Well, we have librarians here that can tell you how much they spend. We have the ADA takeoff, you're right. I think it varies from $7 million down to $1 million a month. So $1 million times $200 a week? What? $1 million times $200 law schools? Yeah, except for the big ones who spend more. But some spend a lot less, too. I don't know, ballpark? Is that right? $200 million, that's not a lot a month. OK, let's say it's $500 million. I mean, that's $500 million. Most of that's for print. Yeah, and a lot of it's for print, too. Well, there's academic discount, too, if you have any difference. Carol, we have a couple more questions. Lunch is on its way. OK. Or we can simply break through the bathroom. But the first question is, what's the damage of David being there? This is actually a rare opportunity. Normally, this costs a lot of money. The question about government, as a contender in most of your publications, it looks like sometimes average articles where business, it could seem to be saying, just give us the raw data, like data.gov. Don't try to put up any websites or regulations. Don't do any value-added sites, like the department that you wanted to do. Just put that data out. We'll take care of it. And I'm very suspicious of that kind of approach. Well, I think it's one area where maybe the interests of a lot of people in this room and the interests of the big group of publishers are together, actually.  And if commercial or non-governmental entities are able to get this stuff for free, and they're able to do better, as an example, we just heard, if you put up a better website than the Washington Supreme Court can do by itself, let's have at it. But the whole pattern that ALA has stuck with is where publications that were publicly available for decades even, valuable ones, suddenly became private. The National Cancer, the whole bunch of full list of them, that the government used to provide for free, and peer-reviewed, not the whole chat. All sudden, pressure comes from somewhere, and they get turned into private publications that are very expensive. So that's the other side where you don't get kind of interest. Well, it is the other side, except that if this movement plays out the way everybody would want it to, I think you'd have the access to the bulk data that would be free. Would be free, or very inexpensive, and so then if you try to take that data and turn it into an expensive journal, somebody else could maybe take the same data and do something for free, or cheap. Yeah, hopefully, yeah, that counts now. Yeah. In your talk, are you suggesting that some of the JV Supra and legal honors might be a more logical partner for this kind of activity or for the lack of access to a lot of that kind of thing? I think they're part of the whole spectrum of activity. I think JV Supra, for example, is another flavor in the way of open access. It's not opening up government information, it's opening up the private practitioners' information for different purposes. But it's feeding the whole sense of openness and access. It also ties into the consumer market because a lot of those products are designed to help the lawyers market. Their motive is not just to enlighten the world, they're trying to get people to see their product and attract customers. So there's a lot of this stuff that's openness and it crosses between what's non-governmental and what's private sector. It's not just about not opening up government. Thanks. Out this door.


You guys like my Halloween costume? There's something wrong with me. You guys know how hard it was to get these eyeballs out of these heads It took me five heads worth of bursted eyeballs until I finally got to do this stupid-ass thumb now but what's up guys today, we're gonna taste some goat eyeballs and You know what got me thinking is Why do buzzards always pick out the eyeballs of the animal? What is it and I've tasted eyeballs before so I know that answer is that There's a liquid in these eyeballs that is very very rich in minerals We just from tasting it. That's what I can tell Obviously, it's very difficult to find the source of nutrition on Something that people don't usually eat so to speak and it's also safe to say that There is a substantial vitamin a content in these eyeballs one of the preferred indigenous foods was The fat behind the eyeballs Why that is? I don't really know.  I don't know but vultures must be onto something, right? You guys heard that right the The texture is something to be desired for so to speak, right? But when it bursts, there's this intense mineral flavor in the eyeball. I mean, I don't really I Couldn't really say what the the health benefit was of this high mineral Substance we can definitely say there's a considerable amount of vitamin a in the eyeball But I think liver as much of you guys are averse to liver is a much more approachable food than this I Don't think I can I could do this. It's just You know, I have a funny story One time I actually the first time I was eating these I Tried to swallow one down whole and it was literally the closest I think I've ever came to dying because it got caught in my windpipe and I was like choking on it Thankfully, I'm still here boys. Sorry for some of you, but I just thought that was so funny I was choking on a goat eyeball in my the middle of my kitchen I was like is this how I'm gonna die choking on a goat eyeball that thought came to my mind I would be like Frank.  So I Learned my lesson bite into him It is kind of hard to bite into these I must say like it's very very difficult You have to kind of hold it there almost and then really bite super hard It's like slipping out of my teeth, but not bad not bad You guys are Frank, why do you do all these weird or eating videos? Maybe I'm trying to get cast as a serial killer on a TV show Maybe someone's gonna see maybe someone's gonna see these may your producers gonna see these videos, but This isn't really about nose to tail this isn't really something I would do normally It is to show how approachable animal foods are and how they all taste good and all parts of the animal have a purpose Maybe someone had some sort of mineral craving and this would have tasted amazing. Who knows? You know, there's plenty of other parts of the animal that we could eat even just on the head and in many indigenous groups parts of the Head as I've said were preferred, especially the brain tissue, especially the fatty parts Secondarily eyeballs liver that kind of stuff, but fatty parts always preferred. That's why the fat behind the eyes was preferred but guys Getting getting these eyeballs out was a nightmare. You know this knife in there trying to you know I burst it like 10 of them trying to get it out So get me going in there getting the fat out behind the eyes is not gonna happen You know, you would you know with these heads you would roast these I'm probably gonna boil the tongues peel them and eat the tongues like that I definitely a lot of Nose to tail eating that can be utilized for a cheap price on these lamb heads Is there a benefit to eating eyeball? Of course I mean, I would assume the mineral content is higher than any food and I Could definitely say the sodium content in that is high I would assume all the other minerals are pretty high as well I couldn't I know what each mineral tastes like and I couldn't really differentiate between them It tasted like a pretty balanced amount of many different ones. I would love to get a food like this tested That this is definitely I mean, you know, who's I mean who's gonna eat these But it's definitely it would definitely be interesting to know what the the consistency of the mineral juices like what minerals are in the eyeballs And then why do buzzards always eat them so to speak but I Guess that's it guys.  I Do have several videos tasting brain Probably not gonna show anything else if you want to cook these heads traditionally You just boil them in a pot for like overnight, and then you just take the meat off and eat it If you guys like to support me, please just share the video If you guys would like to check out my Amazon shop down below I got a bunch of products I eat in my day-to-day life And if you guys want to say hello to Kenny from Vincent's Meat Market Shoot them an email get in touch with them. That's where I got these lamb heads from these are about five dollars each Maybe maybe they're a bit more than that. The price has been going up. Unfortunately But reach out to those guys. They're excellent with sourcing kind of high quality Oregon meats and animal foods. You can't really get your hands on


When we first considered work inspiration, it was really driven from a community perspective. We looked at this from, we're giving back to students, we're giving back to the schools who form part of our community, we're giving them opportunities and upskilling them around some, I guess, work skills which will be suitable for any employer. You're also looking at how do you get your future employees? We can see the opportunity of building a talent pathway. This was a really structured program, I think one of the benefits of work inspiration over other work experience-type programs is it's got accountability to both the employer and the students and the schools. So the students had to work in an environment where they had to make new peers, trust each other, work together, they came away with more leadership skills around their future career. Some of these students have now taken on career paths which they weren't previously aspiring for because they now believe they can. Students who've been through work inspiration came away more confident. They're able to go to a future employer with something tangible to say, actually, I understand a little bit more about working in a workplace, corporate responsibility, all of the things which potentially a new employee may not have. We've seen some really beneficial uplifts of staff engagement, both from those who've run the program, being able to actually lead a key project in our business, those who've been the buddies and mentors, so they've been able to engage in a way which has actually given them confidence. What I really enjoy is you've got that multi-generational learning. You've got a student who's come into the business, often digitally very capable, and actually coaching some of our more prime of life staff on how to feel comfortable and comfortable with that. But equally, we've got that maturity of role and life experience that then adds real career-progressional advice and support to the student while they're part of the work inspiration program. It's really hard to commit time, effort and energy to a work experience program, not knowing what the outcomes are going to be, not knowing what the impact on your business is going to be. Work Inspirations puts all of that in a really tight frame, allowing you to look at insights for the students, which will ensure that they get benefit. But equally, as an employer, you can still tailor it to your business to ensure you're getting outputs that meet your needs as well.