Welcome, I'm so glad to see you all here and not still at one of those breakfasts or whatever. This morning's session is focusing on, instead of how we supply energy, how we use it. And the big picture that I hope you all walk away is the way we've transformed the energy system in the United States has been dominantly through the demand side of the energy market because that is where the most fundamental changes have happened and go back to the oil crisis that was in 1973 and before that. Before that, nobody cared about energy. Yes, some people did, they produced it. But in the use of energy, there was almost no public policy attention associated with that. And then there was the air boiling burger, it was a shot across the bow. And everything changed in industry and in government, individual households paying attention to energy. As a result, if we look at this graph, look at before 1973, we had the growth of energy use. If we follow that trend, it was growing with GDP only about half a percent less. If we follow the trend, we would have followed that red line. The actual is we, there was this inflection point and the actual use of energy followed the blue line. So we were very concerned about national security as well we should have been with a large amount of energy imports. So if you use less energy, you import less energy. So you can look, that's the amount by which we've reduced imports through more energy efficiency relative to the pre-73 trends. We've also increased domestic production and increasing domestic production of energy also reduces imports. That's the amount we've reduced imports by domestic energy. And so you see the red, we're down to a place where we're almost, as United States, zero net importers and in the world and we will become net exporters but most of those imports are from a friendly neighbor for the North, Canada. So we're now secure in ways that we weren't mostly because of energy efficiency and a little bit because of what's happened on the supply side. Notice the purple nuclear, half of that was nuclear power. Then carbon dioxide. We have reduced carbon dioxide to 10 city. I use what's called the Kaia identity which I've written the math down there. You don't have to pay attention to it. But if you see that red line we've decarbonized the economy by 64% since 1973. That means there's only 36% as much energy per dollar of GDP. That amount is because of the energy intensity trends of our economy before 73. That's the result of the enhanced energy efficiency since 1973 and that black line is the results of everything about clean energy. Wind and solar and geothermal and nuclear power and fracking for natural gas, pushing out coal is the width of that black line and cleaning up the system. And half of that's nuclear power. So again, energy efficiency is how we've decarbonized the economy and finally a graph as I end up looking at decade by decade before the energy crisis 1973. See the purple is the rate of growth of the gross domestic product. The blue and the red was the changing energy intensity of the economy and decarbonizing of the energy system.  Once we had the energy crisis, if you look at... This is too wimpy. The blue energy efficiency on a decade by decade basis is in the order of 2% a year reduction. Carbon intensity of energy consumption is very small except for the last five years and now we're cleaning up the energy system, a lot of natural gas pushing out coal. And so it's the cleaning up of the energy system is caught up to half as fast as the rate at which we're decarbonizing through energy efficiency. The black is we're reducing carbon dioxide emissions because we now have that combination of cleaning up the system, more energy efficiency and you see the purple and because our economy is growing only slowly. So that's the big picture. What this section is about, that's the context, this section is about is how does that happen? And we're taking three individuals on the theme being make it happen. I want to start with Rob Bernard who's the chief environmental strategist at Microsoft who will talk about how does it happen from the perspective of his company. Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you so much for inviting us to speak today. I want to start with a little bit of context about why is Microsoft at an event like this? I've gotten that question in a couple of vans and a couple of side conversations so I thought it would be interesting to maybe start with why we care about efficiency. My team, I head up our environmental strategies, we've got quite a few people around the company working on sustainability strategy and we think a bit from almost like a mission perspective of how do we empower every organization and every person on the planet to thrive in a resource constrained world. So today we're talking about energy but we could be talking about water, we could be talking about carbon, we could be talking about food. I think you'll see that the same patterns apply and what we're seeing is, in more different terms, we look at it as the fourth industrial revolution which is everything is being disrupted around us pretty much all the time and most of that's on the back of data. And so when we think about the energy paradigm of the future, it's going to be about how do you have an energy ecosystem built on the back of and leveraging the input of data. So I'm going to give one example today of how we're using our own corporate assets as a way to test that but I also want to put it into the bigger context of how does Microsoft operate and how do we think? So this is one of literally dozens of data centers around the world that we have. These data centers will be 50, 100 megawatt, even larger draws. And to give you some perspective, Microsoft as an operating company uses as much power as a small state today. Could be Vermont, not quite as much certainly as Colorado but we use about the same amount of energy as many of the states in the United States. And when we play that forward over a decade when you look at the growth rates of cloud computing, it's not unfathomable that a company like Microsoft will use as much energy as a small nation. So when we think about our role in the global economy from an energy consumption standpoint and a supply chain standpoint, we think that we have the same obligation as frankly a state might or even a small country might under the way the world is moving.  So we said a couple of years ago, hey we have to improve the energy efficiency and energy mix that we use on the grid. And so we made a bunch of energy commitments and again I'll just go through this quickly to set some context. We've made a commitment to improve our overall energy mix. We're currently at about 44% combination of let's call them low carbon or zero carbon energy hydro wind solar. And we said we're going to get that to 50% by the end of next year and 60% early in the next decade. We are a carbon neutral company. So when we think about energy and energy efficiency, the most efficient electron we use is the one that we actually never use. And so we think about how do we actually get to carbon neutrality across our entire company and I'll come back to that in just a second. How do we actually retire all the green attributes of all the investments we do in energy, again clean energy, conservation and also all the carbon based energy we have around the world. We retire all the green attributes and then we offset the rest. And we're investing all the time in new energy technologies and that's what I'm going to talk about today from an operational standpoint. So the company's carbon neutral. I'll get questions on this. I'm just going to go through it really quickly. We look at our first pillar is Bileen. So that means a reduction in the amount of energy we use to be green by investing in more energy and certainly be accountable. So this is basically Microsoft's core headquarters operations. We have to give you scale and sense. At the time about four years ago, five years ago, we said what if we took data and applied data to energy efficiency. So we took a step back and we said well what do we already have? We had 145 buildings, 15 million square feet, 60,000 people, and just to give you a sense that we were spending about 60 million dollars a year on energy. So we said we're like a small city. The other thing is we had six different building management systems and we were spitting out 500 million data points per day. Half a billion data points a day. Now Arun came up yesterday and talked about the work of bits and wants. I suspect that in our future reality, this number which may seem like a lot today from 125 buildings will actually be small. We'll be talking about hundreds of billions of data points I would imagine in most utility infrastructure systems per day around the world. So with that roadmap ahead of us, how do we get from here to there and how do we leverage the data efficiently? Now my first career before I came to Microsoft was actually in building and building management and building construction. So if I went to 99% of the people who have 100 million data points a day to run your business, I don't think that would work so well. So the key issue when we think about this from Microsoft's perspective is how do you democratize, commoditize, and simplify the information. So saying 500 million data points is actually not what you want to say. And this is a little bit small but if you came to work in the morning and you didn't know how many data points were on your system building management systems in the background, you actually need to abstract all that out. And so if you come to work in the morning and I give this screen to pretty much those 99% of people who don't necessarily want to deal with 500 million data points a day and I say, what are you going to click on? You're going to click on red. And all red is is a system with a bunch of algorithms in the back that runs data processing and machine learning over all of those 500 million data points a day and says these are our most acute problems from an energy standpoint, although it could be security, it could be fire risk, it could be all sorts of different things and it's all different kinds of alarms. And so we separate them into different areas and then we can go ahead and say I can now start to drill down on the data. And what's happened as a result of this is it throws us errors and it says here's how much it will cost if you don't fix that problem, here's how much energy it will cost you, here's how much you will save the company by fixing these things. It's actually effective for us. So just to give you some more context Washington State's about the third cheapest energy market in the United States. It also has some of the most temperate weather in the United States and we did this ahead of the curve before there was great commercial software available to do this. We invested again ahead of the curve, it took us less than 18 months to recoup our investment. Our 60 million dollar energy bill, despite the fact that our staff and our buildings and our square footage has grown has come down by over 10% and we're well on our way to 20% savings in energy use across our corporate campus by just leveraging the data. I'll give you one more anecdotal story. We had a building in California where the energy prices are definitely higher than in Washington State and it was a lead gold building fully renovated and we turned it on and we thought we would get some value, a little bit of value out of the software because it's a lead gold building and it should be running superficially. In the first month in one building we found $240,000 of energy savings. Turns out the sequencing of the boilers, the chillers, some of the load factors, some of the human interaction with the building which we didn't anticipate, all the flows were slightly different than we thought. So these are the things that technology and by the way we would never have found that if we didn't have the software system. And so I think we're well on our way and just to give you context, Microsoft's business model is we're not going to build a building energy management software system and sell it to different organizations, maybe your organization. We actually want to create an ecosystem of hundreds of companies around the world who are accelerating the use of machine learning, artificial intelligence, cloud computing and sensors. Sensors are super, super cheap. Again, we did this project four or five years ago and we still paid ourselves back in less than 18 months. There is tons of inefficiency on the magnitude order of 20% and pretty much any process or building, manufacturing anywhere in the world. So when we want to think about how do we actually get to energy efficiency at scale, this is the way to do it. I'll just leave you with one last thing to think about which is even this dashboard that I showed, I think this is sort of phase one. So how many people here are under 35? I'm not, but that's great. So how many of you prefer to use text versus email or visual stuff versus actually going into a dashboard or something like this? I think the next wave is more my generation. I'm certainly well over 35. These buildings will be able to talk to you with the technology we have. I'd much rather, if I'm thinking about how I run around and manage a building, I'd much rather have my phone literally text me and we number our buildings. I'm building 125, I see you're in building 124. I'm having a problem with my output and I'm making 25 people uncomfortable right now. When we think about the role of technology, we have to get even beyond this paradigm to an actual personalized interaction with the people who can make the changes that will actually drive transformation. So I'm excited that so many people under 35 are raising their hands because you're the people who are going to write the next generation of apps which make this, which we currently think is futuristic, look old-fashioned. So I'm excited. I think 20% of energy savings is just a start and I look forward to working with people like you or anyone here in the audience to get us to 30-40% savings. Thank you. Thank you. We have a second speaker whose title has just changed recently as of January 20th. He's now a former assistant secretary of the Navy, Admiral Dennis McGinn. I described myself yesterday in one of the smaller groups as a recovering sailor. A week ago yesterday, I was loading boxes from my office in the Pentagon into my car, a Prius, and have had about a week to decide what a recovering sailor is really doing. And I find myself here at Beaver Creek and I said, you know, I like this recovery path. It's really, really terrific. I want to talk to you briefly about what the Department of the Navy, the Navy and the Marine Corps, the two services in the department and by extension what our counterparts in Army and Air Force are doing related to energy efficiency. I start by the premise that this nation's energy security, economic security and environmental security are all inextricably linked. You really can't do anything big in any one of those without having tremendous effects in the other. So you have to take a holistic balanced view to how we approach national security which rests on all of those key other securities. So for the Department of the Navy and indeed the Department of Defense we said energy is really, really key to our ability to carry out our mission of defending the nation. And we do this in a lot of different ways. In the case of the Navy and the Marine Corps it was a combination of energy efficiency in a way we described it was more fight, less fuel and also diversifying our portfolio of energy sources beyond what we had been developing over the past century effectively. So I'll tell you a little bit about that. This is a picture of the USS Macon Island. It's a large deck amphibious. It carries marine expeditionary troops around the world to do everything from humanitarian assistance to disaster relief to full scale regional war. It has a hybrid electric drive so that when it's not going from one place to the other at a rapid speed it can slow down turn off the gas turbine engines rely on the diesel electric power plant and save an enormous amount of fuel because when you're in amphibious operations you tend to be in an area of operations for a long, long time and you don't need to have an inherently inefficient slow speed power plant. Macon Island saved unbelievable amounts of fuel in its first deployment on the order of 40% of what it would have been had it not been the hybrid electric drive. The amphibious guys used to go crazy when as assistant secretary I would refer to them as the Prius of the Seas but you know hey they've got to get over it. This is a picture of the back end the stern of a destroyer and you can see under the water what we call a stern flap saves anywhere from 1.5 to 2% of fuel in its transit just by getting the plane of the ship the entire ship at the right level. In addition we're putting bulbous bows on ships under the water we are putting anti-fouling material on all of our running gear and it saves a tremendous amount of fuel. Little bit here little bit there multiplied by huge numbers of ships and it really makes a big difference more fight less fuel. This is a picture of a saucer in the main engineering control plant on a destroyer who is monitoring all of the rotating machinery the pumps the valves the air circulating systems to determine what the optimum plant configuration should be. This is reflective of not only the technology that we've invested in throughout our navy and marine corps but the key thing of culture. The fact that every sailor every marine seaman to admiral from lance corporal to general needs to understand that our mission success is inextricably linked to energy and how we use energy is going to make a big difference in how the outcome of that mission goes. This is a machinist mate who is checking the quality that is it clear and bright of the fuel that's just been delivered from an oiler at sea. The fact is a mix of biofuel with traditional marine diesel it's a 10% biofuel 90% marine diesel the idea being that at a strategic level let's start diversifying from total 100% reliance on petroleum and not that petroleum has been anything but wonderful for the nation and the navy but let's just see what we can do in terms of reducing our reliance on one source of fuel and doing that not just in the United States but around the world so that is just starting we partner with civil aviation and other nations I was out in Hawaii last summer for the rim of the pacific exercise we had nine ships including the United States ships that used this blend of biofuel four others took quantities of 10,000 gallons back to their home ports to do the testing the point being this is the moral equivalent of strict petroleum based products in that it's dropping you drop it into the tank you don't have to change any lines pumps ignitors or anything like that and we just have a different range of feedstocks that produce it this is a picture of a marine howitzer and the control system to regulate exactly where you're pointing this is produced by those solar panels so I really really killed a couple of people when I said so this is a solar howitzer sorry here is a marine that is out in the field that's a flexible solar array that allows him to recharge all kinds of different batteries the marines and soldiers of today rely so much on electronics whether it's GPS or communications night vision aiming systems so the ability to go away from one time use batteries and be able to recharge in the field on patrol tremendous savings and oh by the way a tremendous advantage in their combat effectiveness this is a command center in a forward operating base in which we have incorporated every aspect of HVAC energy efficiency the tent itself building envelope if you will is highly efficient to keep it warm in the winter and cold in the or cool in the summer and once again we do it for all the information technology the computers the command and control systems that are used for this forward operating base and the marine corps and the army have really really made great advances here oh by the way the reason that is so critically important is the most most lethal mission for our marines our marines and our soldiers in Iraq in Afghanistan was escorting fuel convoys every 50 convoys there was a casualty not a good way so by reducing the demand at the pointy end up on the forward operating bases you tremendously cut back with a great positive compounding effect on how much you have to put into the system and how many convoys you have to rely on you manage what you measure and for our shore installations as well as for our ships at sea and our forward deployed marines automatic metering using the power of information technology that Rob described and making it able to be usable and to be able to make decisions how much your energy usage is both on the load side and also where is your best value least cost for power supply on the generator side this is a shot of a couple of folks out in California that are celebrating the arrival of a couple of hybrid electric automobiles we just recently concluded a lease option with partnership with the state of California for over 400 electric vehicles sedan types and we're looking to expand the use of electrification for transportation to medium and heavy drive everything from forklifts to gantry cranes and we're also working with a commercial sector in partnership to try to figure out how to best do that this is a solar panel this is at Marine Corps Air Station in Miramar in Southern California San Diego area and they are in the micro grid business where they have some on-site generation of methane gas from landfill solar panels and a black start control system that allows them to go off the grid in the event of a widespread grid outage and have critical load service by these distributed energy resources and I'm not sure what that is Rob can you describe what that is some sort of data infrastructure Rob says that will quickly be outdated exactly these are sailors on top of one of our buildings in San Diego just installed solar panels we are looking for the best business cases and all of these projects are I would describe 95% our third party finance we have found that that partnership with the financial community and with the energy savings performance contracts utility energy services contracts power purchase agreements have been very very good and allowing us to diversify our portfolio and also to squeeze that more mission value out of every unit of electricity whether it's a kilowatt or a barrel of fuel I look forward to your questions thanks a lot and the third of our trio Kathleen Hogan deputy assistant secretary for energy efficiency of the department of energy her title has not changed thank you thank you very much and it is great to be with all of you here today so in this position what I really do is oversee the energy efficiency portfolio at the department of energy which is actually a pretty broad portfolio it includes research of course national appliance standards federal energy management which facilitates federal lead by example on energy efficiency and renewable energy issues we do a lot of work with partnerships with the private sector, states, local governments we do low income weatherization very large program and as other things but when you step back and you really think about what is central to all of these efforts of course it is the compelling benefits of energy efficiency it's the lower bills it's the reduced air pollution and hand in hand with that it is the jobs that we get and the enhanced economic growth it's hard to find something else that can work so hard for us in terms of what it can do for this country and we really have benefited a lot as Jim showed you with his charts another way of looking at the numbers that he put up is that we have cut our energy intensity in half since 1980 and so everything that goes with that with lower bills reduced air pollution is really tremendous but of course what makes this happen it's largely technological innovation not all but largely technological innovation some great examples out there today's refrigerator we all take it for granted but if you compare it to a 1980 refrigerator it uses a quarter of the energy it's bigger it has more features and it costs half the price of a refrigerator in 1980 what a great technology story and it's similar stories for air conditioners clothes washers and what's the transformation that is happening before our eyes it's lighting with LEDs they use 85% less energy than the Thomas Edison incandescent they're very long lasting you're not running to the store every six months and what's interesting with some of the new generation on the market is intriguing capabilities for color tuning we can't wait to see what we're all going to do with that but what is it that's driven this innovation it's driven by a variety of policies private sector motivations but also policies that the federal state and local level examples federal appliance standards which have been in place since the late 80s are saving consumers $64 billion a year on their utility bills in 2015 alone at the same time creating a national marketplace for these products to be sold instead of having a state by state approach and these savings continue to grow we have state and local led building codes building energy savings in from the day one of these structures which are currently saving about $5 billion again with savings that are growing we have a robust energy efficiency industry fielded by utilities and other program administrators that are helping their customers save or another way to look at it is they're procuring energy savings at half the cost of bringing new energy supplies online and that's all adding up to investing billions a year in products, high efficiency products and also savings of billions of dollars a year and sort of a newer approach that we're seeing out there is cities and communities that are using building energy transparency requirements and business challenges to motivate improvements broadly across their downtowns that are also starting to show some great results so DOE what are we doing we're pursuing a whole variety of goals and strategies in partnership of course with people across the country including our national labs that have contributed to and will continue to catalyze a lot of this progress we have a goal of doubling our nation's energy productivity to get twice the economic value from every energy unit we use so this means we're not only doing things to save energy and money but we're actually trying to target a lot of our approaches to put the U.S. position on energy efficiency and clean energy solutions because there is such a rapidly growing global marketplace for these things so again what does this mean we're doing in our homes and buildings which currently do account for 40% of our energy use and about a $400 billion annual energy bill it means we're working on things like next generation technologies that can save 45% savings in building energy over the high efficiency cost effective technologies that are already on the market today we're demonstrating new whole buildings where you can put these technologies in and see and address the systems issues demonstrating 50% savings over the buildings that are out there today we're linking these building systems in ways that contribute to a robust electricity grid much of that work being done not that far down the road at the National Renewable Energy Lab we're working to integrate distributed generation with buildings at the building community and regional levels and we're fielding those through a bunch of initiatives called zero energy ready because that's really I think synonymous with start by being lean be ready by having a low load and then be ready to come and put renewable energy and pair it up in the way that makes sense at the building community or regional level and doing other things on the manufacturing front we have a flagship effort that's been a big undertaking the last few years it's a new set of clean energy manufacturing institutes part of a manufacturing USA network to improve our country's manufacturing competitiveness so these institutes are supporting innovation and workforce development in advanced manufacturing materials and processes things like next generation semiconductors otherwise known as using wide band gap materials which can increase the efficiency with which we use motors throughout manufacturing with potentially stunning implications increase the use of motorized compressors in important areas throughout industry improve the efficiency of our grid improve the capabilities of electric vehicles and really reduce the energy required to run data centers so we're hoping we can take his energy use down even further so we're also working on advanced high strength and lightweight composite materials which can improve vehicle efficiency plane train efficiency enable renewable power smart manufacturing bringing the benefits of data and information technologies to optimize manufacturing processes offering tremendous savings throughout the supply chain chemical process intensification to improve the energy productivity some of our most energy intensive processes and industries and also looking for ways to just reduce the embedded energy in manufactured materials so we can avoid the many quads of energy that were either putting in our landfills or shipping across the seas and we're also supporting advancements in additive manufacturing and 3D printing which just opens up just whole new horizons for product designs and shortening time to market with rapid prototyping and hopefully some of you have seen the fully drivable 3D printed Shelby Cobra that is helping show what 3D printing can really do so these efforts really are tremendous engaging hundreds of firms of all sizes in new innovation ecosystems providing access to new tools and facilities and already making progress at the same time we're working with lots of partners across the country to just push on the savings that are there today we've got a whole variety of partners that are working with us an initiative called Better Buildings, Better Plants that are showcasing a whole array of solutions for how to reduce their energy use across whole portfolios of buildings by 20% or more and then really showcasing those solutions that they use to make it work tackling some important problems and showing how to do it and we continue to work with our states through our energy program to develop and share best practices we continue to field what's been a long standing and successful program for helping some of the the least advantaged people through our low end weatherization assistance program which now it's just had its 40th anniversary and we've now been able to help reduce the energy burden of 7 million low income families and that will keep going along so the bottom line here from all of this I think from the Department of Energy's perspective and I'll echo some of the earlier comments is this is just a tremendously exciting time for energy efficiency we are in the midst of really dramatic change buildings consumers how we interact with our systems is changing a revolution in manufacturing revolution in the world. We need to look at the technologies that we're living through it is just amazing and what we see is we just need to keep pushing forward on a full variety of strategies energy is basically in everything we do we need to keep pursuing those opportunities and we need to keep looking for the leaders that will keep pushing the envelope so we can keep working on the problems that remain there to be pushed into the future. Any one of you can be the first to ask a question on here so high pay off because your question will probably be asked if you text quickly what I hope you ended up seeing is that here we have a system in which we have been carbonizing the economy creating energy security and creating profitability of our companies by a process which has been on the average over the last more than 40 years reducing energy intensity by about 2% a year average. The last 5 years have been faster than the average of the earlier years the last 2 years have been faster than the last 5 years so the process is slightly accelerating it's been actions by hundreds of millions of people in the United States and hundreds of thousands of companies and organizations all working individually in ways that have been beneficial to our nation so we can only give you a slice of a couple of the ways in which it's happening in the military by getting you a more effective fighting force through energy efficiency in corporations getting more competitive profitable corporations for individual saving costs on their bills but it's been one of those tremendous things that should be a totally non-partisan issue and so far it is I'd like to just mention that LEDs on Navy ships you'd think okay let's do it energy good thing yes but the secondary and tertiary benefits are incredible first of all LEDs as you probably know don't fail at nearly the rate that other forms including fluorescent or compact fluorescence do so the savings in sailor manpower aboard ship and oh by the way the improvement in lighting is just great benefits direct the other aspect of it of course is when you go to sea in the old days with fluorescent bulbs two foot long fluorescent bulbs you had store rooms full of spares because you knew they were going to fail so you had a choice between dark areas of the ship or you know use the store rooms to bring it great savings oh by the way when you get back in the port you've got hazardous material in the form of the mercury in the old fluorescence so I use that point you can start out by saying I want to be more energy efficient on my ship by relamping it with LEDs but you get all of these very very significant benefits as well let me pose the first question to Rob and you've talked about the use of the data and infrastructure how does this change how people work in your organization? well I think there's a couple of things the first thing is I think you want to have the most comfortable space you possibly can have and so by reducing errors in just the way the systems work you're actually getting more productivity because people aren't uncomfortable so that's one area I think the other way that we're seeing changes well beyond just the building is the most efficient thing to do is actually not have an office or go to your office so when you think about the paradigm of energy efficiency at the extreme it's can you get more and more people to work remotely more and more people to work from home I think the other piece is once you actually start to look at the use patterns and we've done this within our buildings you can reconfigure the building so you have more shared workspace more dynamic workspace and so you actually reduce the physical number of square feet you need per individual within the space itself so those are just a couple of examples which is I get to work from home so I don't have to commute which also spews out a lot of energy and requires energy I've got much more comfortable space when I'm in my workspace and therefore I'm not actually being unproductive because it's too cold too hot and then of course the configuration dynamic space is also really interesting I think the next wave that will happen is actually integrating not just and I talked about integrating six different disparate building systems and that's super interesting but what if I can actually and also looking at people movement throughout building so that's sort of two separate things how do you actually think about the fact that most of our calendars are stored in database somewhere right so now I can actually do predictive dynamic flow through so that my phone sort of like I was talking about before why doesn't it tell me which building in which office to go to because it doesn't make sense when 20 to 30% of your workforce isn't there on any given day to heat or cool 100% of your space let me ask you a related question and one again there's a green there's a green E on some of your ships and there's a reason for that can you tell about the the way you motivate the men and women of the of the services very very talented dedicated and competitive force in the Navy Marine Corps all the services so the secretary of the Navy awards energy awards for people and ships and units that get the job done for less energy it's a very very straightforward proposition the metrics are there and tracked by up through the chain of command let me just comment on the color of the E you hear about great green fleet we did that green Hornet we flew an F-18 with 100% biofuel so a lot of folks because of our own enthusiasm and marketing what we're doing thought this was all about reduction of greenhouse gases no it's all about the mission the reduction of greenhouse gases in some parts of the political spectrum are just an unfortunate consequence of what we're doing to improve the mission Kathleen the are you running out of opportunities for more energy efficiency improvement are they it's sort of like a renewable resource that there's more and more opportunities keep coming up talk about that please I mean that's certainly a great question you know one of the big industries out there that I talked about is the utility industry right that's delivering energy savings to their customers and I think one of the big concerns was when the LED lights come in and that you're so changing the program mix that they could deliver and you're taking away some of the savings opportunity as the market would transform itself but you know what they're going as strong as ever with the other opportunities that are out there there's so many things that remain untapped that are still cost effective and that the utilities can leverage and then of course there are new things coming along you know basically you know every day every year I mean there's just an there's an up and coming I think revolution with refrigeration you know I talked about the refrigerator and where it is I didn't mention we have a project underway that's that's cutting that energy use in half again so again the the low hanging fruit on the tree does keep coming back Lab you talked a lot about what you've done in Microsoft is this generalizable to many other companies I mean not all companies are Microsoft and sophisticated as you are in information systems and so forth is this special to you or is it something that can be adopted across the board absolutely something you know for us we look at it which is if we have a problem in a scenario which is not unique to us and certainly building energy efficiency is not unique to Microsoft how do we actually create an ecosystem of partners and services so that what we learn becomes democratized and cheap for everybody else so if you look at what we did there are lots of other big enterprise companies I always say look 15 million square feet is kind of interesting you got to get to 15 billion square feet before we're actually going to have an impact and so there are lots of other big companies but one story which is great 20,000 square foot building that's their entire infrastructure they deployed the same system we deployed on our corporate campus and they saw a similar reduction in taxpayer cost of about 20% on the energy bill so it'll span the whole spectrum it's just getting it democratized and commoditized and easily configurable that's how we're going to accelerate success great thank you Dennis one of the things I find fascinating is the movements in some of your shore bases where you really brought down to the individual family the incentives on energy energy efficiency through targets and prices could you talk a little bit about that and tell people about whether this is effective or not it really is in fact I think the most and tell people what it is because I was very cryptic well on our naval installations around the world we place a great premium on maintaining high quality of life but we know that through the combination of partnerships with our housing contractors through technology insertion rooftop solar programmable thermostats better HVAC and water heating systems better refrigerators that it really really is key also found that the most powerful factor is culture getting people to understand how directly relatable their energy uses to their quality of life or in the case of of the mission to what they do in the field the Marine Corps about a year ago came out with the energy ethic for all Marines and the idea was when you're in garrison in barracks on the base your awareness of how much energy you are using directly translates to your thought process your ethic when you're out there in the field or actually in combat so this is a powerful cultural dynamic that is happening in both our Navy and Marine Corps thank you all good things must end and this must end without a time so thank you all three


What's up everyone? It's your girl Kanti here from Layton Sports Cards and I'm ripping the last break of the daytime. We got 2022 Panini Contenders football hobby six bucks, half case break number 18. Pick your team style. We've got Aaron H. Bears Anton H. Seahawks Christopher F. Eagles, Dean I. Lyons, Ed B. Raiders, Ezekiel M. with the Colts Bucks in Washington, Hung Chee C. Bills, Jamie D. Giants, Joe T. Jets, Jonathan H. Texans, Jonathan B. Ravens, Justin G. Chiefs, Kevin B. with the Cardinals and Dolphins, Kyle M. Niners, Matthew J. Jags, Matthias S. Browns, Mike L. Bengels, Nathaniel S. Panthers, Nicholas T. Saints, Robert V. Viking, Sean M. with the Cowboys and Steelers, Shazeed K. Patriots, Stephen W. with the Broncos and Rams, Thomas R. Chargers and Falcons and Packers and Timothy F. with the Titans. All right, best of luck everyone again. Again, thanks so much for getting this filled up and let's see what we can get out of this last break of the day. One second here. Good luck. I don't think we got that advent one out of the last, but we should be getting one here. We've seen one of those per case so far. One per case. Good luck everyone. Is this a printing plate? Oh, it might be another metal car. Oh, the first pack. Jeez. All right, we're going to roll the dice. One, two, three, left, four, five, six, right. That'll be for the rest of the break unless it's a one of one or going to the right. So this will go Michael Parsons and the Cowboys. All right, let's see what we have here. It's a variation on the silver one of one, Priest Hall printing plate. There you go, Jets. Wow. Out of the first pack, Jets, that is going to Joti. Congrats on that one. We'll mag that. That's sick. Here you go, Joe. Got to 99, Joe Montana Game Day ticket. Simmons, Justin Herbert, Contenders MVP. Yeah, out of the first pack, that's for sure. Supernatural, Aiden Hutchinson rookie. Legendary, Brett Farr. God, Gladiators, Bill Romanowski. Ricky of the Year, John Dotson. Channing Tyndall for the Dolphins rookie ticket auto. John Elway Broncos. Winning Ticket Kyler. There's Ed Reid. Got Chance Campbell for the Titans on the rookie ticket auto. Kurt Cousins, MVP, Contenders. Got Touchdown Tandems, Colts. This is going to go, what do we say, right? Right on these, I believe. Haven't seen around numbers yet. Got Lewis Sine for the rookie ticket auto. Vikings, Johnson Taylor, Gladiators. Ricky of the Year, Romeo Dobbs. George Kittle. Got Khalil Shakir for the Bills, rookie ticket auto. And we got our first round numbers. Going to roll the dice, one, two, three, top, four, five, six, bottom. It'll be for the remainder of the break, except if we pull a one of one or an auto. Good luck. You guys see that? A five. Going to go bottom. Bottom and right for those. Players of Nick Bolton. Good luck, y'all. Got Kobe Bryant, Seahawks, rookie ticket auto. Power Players Camp Chancellor. Touchdown Tandems, Dolphins. Trevor Penning for the Saints on the showcase ticket auto. Ricky of the Year, James Cook. Gladiators, Lawrence Taylor. MVP, Contenders, Josh Allen. Garrett Wilson on the supernatural rookie jets. Let's do some crazy. Legendary Michael Vick. Peyton Hender shots on the rookie ticket auto. Power Players, Fred Warner. Cut of a card. Wasn't missing. No piece of a card is missing, so. Gladiators of TJ Watt. It's going to go right, TJ Watt Steelers. Uh, Demone Clark on the rookie ticket auto. Cowboys. Winning ticket, Lamar Jackson. Game day ticket, Andre Johnson. MVP, Contenders, Debo Samuel. Got James Cook for the bills on the championship ticket 41 of 49 on card auto. Go Buffalo. Christian Watson, Ricky of the Year. Got to 99. Ricky of the Year, Kenneth Walker III, Seahawks. Power Players, Brian Burns. Wright, Jalen Ramsey. Joe Montana game day ticket. Ricky of the Year, Garrett Wilson. Box three here. Here we are full for the date sign. This will be the last one here for me today. Then four shall be live starting at five. One of one. It's the one-on-one team. It's a printing plate. MVP, Contenders, Patrick Mahomes of Bree Paul for the Jets. Pretty sick out of the very first pack. Redemption here. Just going to go right to Dion Sanders. Good luck, y'all. Rookie ticket, RPS card 127. A candy picket. There he is. There you go, Steelers, right? First one of the day for the stillers. Pittsburgh. That is Shawn M. I'm pretty sure Shawn had them all day too. So there you go. Congrats on that one, Shawn. A long time coming. That's for sure. Got Power Player, Ed Reed. For the Broncos, Rookie Ticket Auto, Turner Yell. And Dion Sanders, Legendary. Touchdown, Candoms, Colts. Rookie of the Year, Aiden Hutchinson. First one of those, I think they've seen. There you go, Dean. Tickets here. Grants, Cal Caterra for the Eagles. That is 13 of 81. Eagles. Gladiators, Jonathan Taylor. Construction, right? That wasn't good. Got Patrick Mahomes, winning ticket. Game day ticket, George Kittle. Got Jets again, Rookie Ticket Auto, Zonovan Knight. Cooper Cup, MVP contenders. Power Players, Nick Bolton. Aaron Donald on the playoff ticket to 199 ramps. Job challenge. Rookie of the Year, Alec Pierce. Colts, Touchdown, Tandems. Isaac Taylor Stewart for the Cowboys, Rookie Ticket. This is going to go bottom chiefs with Skymore. Supernatural, Josh Allen. Yeah, that was pretty cool. MVP, contenders, Jalen Hurts. Last pack, Fox 3. Niners, Rookie Ticket Auto, Jordan Mason. What's the first? Niners, Auto. Gronk, Gladiators. Oh, Purdy doesn't have an Auto in this. Pretty sure. I looked that up earlier. No, yeah, Brock Purdy. Rookie Ticket Set. Oh, I guess that would, well no, Rookie Ticket Set. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, I thought that was the base set. That's my bad. Yeah, he does. Man, but yeah, that's the first Niners, Auto that we've seen today. Yeah, all his stuff that he signed has been sticker this year. I didn't know if he's had any on-card, or if he does, they're very, very scarce. Yeah, just not on-card. We've got Rookie of the Year, Tyler Algier. Rookie Ticket Playoff. Rookie Playoff Ticket Variation RPS. Card 112 of Day Gray. Day Gray. Niners. Day Gray. Yeah, Niners. Now that we say that, we pull another Niners. Usually how that goes, though. Oh, that makes sense, Dean. Yeah. Got Jets doing well. This go around to $1.99 Playoff Ticket, James Robinson. Touchdown Tandems Vikings. Legends Jerry Rice. Gladiators of Joe Green Steelers. His stuff has been selling for crazy amounts and out of prism. Got Raiders. Rookie Ticket Auto. Chase Garbers. Dak Prescott MVPs. I was watching the sports cards top 10 on my way in, and there were a couple purries on there that were like over five figures. Got Jonathan Taylor Colts. One was like a, someone pulled the gold disco out of prism, no huddle. Round numbers going bottom, Drake London. Then someone else pulled the gold vinyls at the base, gold vinyl base or the auto. Can't remember. It was like $12,000, $16,000 that he was thinking it'll sell for. Wow. Niners. Samuel Wolmack. We did pull one of him earlier, Wolmack. Player, power players, AJ Dillon. Kenneth Walker, the third rookie of the year. Yeah, they're pretty cool. Hallie does a good job with that. Game day ticket, Adrian Peterson, for sure. Steelers. A DeMarvin Leal Rookie Ticket Auto. Gonna go right with Ray Lewis. Just haven't seen the pickings yet. Power players, JJ Watt. MVP Mahomes. Cardinals, Rookie Ticket Auto of Kiante Ingram. Supernatural. Rookie, Kenny Pickett. Legendary, Deion Sanders, Cowboys. Gladiators, Jason Peters. Nice one here. On the blue showcase ticket, K-Von, Tibidale. Again, beautiful color match there at that blue. There you go, Giants. Rookie of the Year, Hutch. Game day ticket, Jim Kelly. Box five. Yeah, out of the first tag I'll break, too. Got David Ajabo, Ravens Rookie Tickets. Ravens, Kandace. Got NBPs, Derek Carr. Gladiators, Dick Buccas. Calvin Austin, the third draft class. It is 66 of 99 Steelers.  So I think we've seen every Stealer Rookie but a pickings auto today. Cooper Cup, game day ticket. What was that? Yeah, Steelers are scarce in this. Rookie of the Year, Traylon Burks. Hard hit but pickings, not picket. Yeah, we pulled one picket just earlier but yeah, he's even hardcore. Supernatural, Josh Allen. Yeah, no sauce either. There's just some that are really scarce. Tyree Kill, same with Jameson. Yeah, Dean's Jason. Jordan Mason Niners, wow. I say we haven't pulled a Niners and this is like the fourth Niners card for auto out of this break. Grant, how many parties did you pull yesterday? No. Was it Sam who pulled one? Travis Kelsey winning ticket? Yeah, last time. Yeah, there's some players that are super hard to pull out of this. Travis Kelsey, got Xander Horvath, Rookie ticket auto, Chargers, Checo, Rookie of the Year, Power Players, Saquon, Legendary, Herschel Walker. We just pulled, at the beginning of the break, we got Rookie ticket on-card auto, Wondale Robinson, Bree's Hall, Printing Plate 101, MVP, Tua. Yeah, Gary Wilson was on-card too. Cortland Sutton, playoff ticket to 199 Broncos, Josh Allen, but yeah, we haven't seen any sauce. No sauce and only one Wilson. Jim Kelly, Legendary, last pack here. And Touchdown Tandems, Allen and Diggs. All right, last pack here. All right, sorry, last box. Oh yeah, I know Zappy either. Man, there's a lot that we have not. Nice. Yeah, a lot that we haven't seen. Jeez, Rookie ticket auto, Avery Williams, gonna go bottoms, Amir White, God, Britton Covey for the Eagles, Rookie ticket auto, Gladiators, John Elway, God, Hutch, Rookie ticket variation, 8 out of 22. Wow, there you go, Dean. Oh my, that's that 2002 Rookie ticket RPS. That's disgusting. Wow, that'll play. There you go, Dean. Two on-card Hutch autos today for you. eBay 101, 789. We'll mag that one. Winning ticket, JT. Wow, we've got a lot again. Again, this is gonna go to the Chiefs on the showcase ticket. We did, we pulled a Hertz redemption earlier. Legendary, Dan Marino, Hertz redemption, a Herbert redemption. Those were out of some of the first couple breaks of this. Player, power players to Forrest Buckner, got Grease Hall Rookie of the Year, got Barracos on the ticket stop, 8 of, wait, 52 of 80, sorry, Greg Doolidge, cool in there, Barracos, nice Doolidge, where the last team's taken, Stevie Young, MVP contenders, Jamar Chase, got Thayer Munford on the Rookie ticket auto, Raiders, power players, Jordan Brooks, MVP contenders, Tom Brady, what's up, Brett? Got Justin Jefferson game day ticket, supernatural, Malik Willis, only one Willis, two, maybe one Burtz, one or two Burtz, Isaiah Spiller for the Chargers Rookie ticket, Rookie on card ticket, Chargers Rookie of the Year, Malik Willis. Yeah, supernatural, this is 7 of 10 Kenny Pickett, there you go Steelers, nice low numbered hit there, who did Pittsburgh again? Probably Sean, right? Yep, Sean M, nice picket to 10, that's sick, we've got Gladiators of Herschel Walker, legendary Gronk, think this last break may take it for the best contenders break of the day, Randy Moss game day ticket, I've got to with that Hutch and the one-on-one and that, yeah, this is definitely it. Superstar SSP, Justin Herbert, wow, Chargers, first one of these we've seen today too, Thomas R with the Chargers, we'll get this one in a mag for you, I'll leave that one to you to sleep, Trevor Lawrence MVP contenders, what product was it? Clearly, clearly Don Russ where they have like every box or so, something like that, oh my gosh, that was horrible, yeah, and Power Players of Daniel Hunter, if anything just use like a thick sleeve, that's usually easier, you got it, yeah, all right, wow, what a last break to end the day, let's do a recap on this, we had Redemption for the Niners, Danny Gray on the Rookie Playoff ticket variation, Mumford Raiders, Avery Williams Falcons, Britton Covey Eagles, Xander Horvath for the Chargers, Jordan Mason Niners, David Ajaubo Ravens, Keyante Ingram Cardinals, Devarman Leal Steeler, Samuel Womack Niners, Chase Garver's Raiders, Jordan Mason Niners, Isaac Taylor Stewart Cowboys, Zonovan Knight Jets, Turner Yell, Broncos, Damon Clark, Cowboys, Payton Hendershot, Cowboys, Kobe Bryant, Seahawks, Kalo Shakir, Bills, Lewis Sine, Vikings, Chance Campbell, Titans, Chad Tindall, Dolphins, Isaiah Spillard, Chargers, Wanda Robinson, Giants, Showcase Tickets, Chris Alladekin, Cheeps, Kevon Tibodeau, Giants, Trevor Penning, Saints, Jack Kloss of 99, Calvin Austin the Third, Steelers, we had the great Dulich on the rookie ticket stub to 80, another ticket stub of Cal Caterra for the Eagles, James Cook to 49 on the championship ticket, and then our Magd cards, we had the SSP superstar of Justin Herbert, Chargers, the 2002 throwback rookie ticket RPS to 22 Aiden Hutchinson, sick one there, we had the one-of-one printing plate for the Jets of Breeze Hall, and then we also had the Kenny Pickett rookie ticket RPS Steelers, heck of a way to go out for the day, thanks again everyone, more group breaks tonight with Forrest.


This is Think Tech Hawaii, Community Matters here. Good afternoon. Welcome to Think Tech Hawaii, Movers, Shakers, and Reformers, Politics in Hawaii series. I'm your host, Carl Kempanyi. Today my guest will be Representative Tom Brower from House District 22, which is the, I guess, Waikiki and beyond area. So we're going to learn a bit more about that area and the issues revolving around that area. But we're going to begin the conversation by learning about Representative Tom Brower. And so with that, let me welcome to the show. Please tell us a bit about yourself, what you have been doing before you became Representative, and what got you to that position. Can we start that? Real briefly, you know, I'm born in the 60s in Honolulu, but I grew up on the mainland. I went to a Catholic grammar school in high school in New Jersey. Then I returned in 1983 to attend college, and since then I've been living continuously in Waikiki. In college I was really interested in radio. I worked at a number of radio stations in Honolulu and worked a little bit in the nonprofit field. Then eventually got interested in government. And my pal from college, Representative Martakai, I worked in his office at the Capitol, 1998. And regardless of politics, Democrats and Republicans, I really enjoyed the experience at the Capitol and always thought about maybe one day coming back. So in 2006, I was elected as the Representative for Waikiki. Excellent. Well, again, congratulations for that. And for being there now, we're looking on 12 years now. Yes. So congratulations for that. So okay, when you ran, was it an open seat? Was it a, or was it, was there a talent to an incumbent at the time? It was not an open seat. Galen Fox was the Representative for maybe almost 10 years in Waikiki. And he left office and the governor appointed a woman to fill that vacancy. And she was in the seat for about eight months. And then in 2006, I ran for office. With the lingual? Yes. Okay. So lingual is the governor. And you know, sometimes people, they have this issue, they call it carpet bagging and people move into different districts and position themselves. And for me, that was, you know, never a possibility. I just am very attached to Waikiki. So I was on the Waikiki Neighborhood Board for eight years prior to getting elected. Okay. So involved in the community that you live in? Yeah. I think for me, I like to be near the center as close to the big city as possible. Yeah. So I'm very comfortable in Waikiki. That's the New Jersey part. Yes, exactly. It's the time in New Jersey where you like to be where actually just have more energy. Very much so. So I really feel comfortable there and, you know, just love the Waikiki neighborhood and the surrounding communities. Yeah. Waikiki is beautiful. We all know, and the world knows, which actually puts a lot of pressure on you, I would think, to a certain extent. You're representing an area that the world knows. You're representing a district that is highly, I guess, developed and active with tourists. So when people talk about Hawaii, when people talk about our tourist economy, a lot of it is centered around your district. Yeah. The welcome map to the world, it's how we put our best foot forward. And I say, you know, a lot of things, and one of those is that Hawaii, Waikiki is like the living room, right? So we have to have a certain impression when we welcome our guests, and it has a lot of the same issues that a big city has. So we just need to continue to do our best to take care of those issues. Yeah. And that's actually an interesting perspective to understand and to realize. When you live in a big city, you get to see the difference of that. What is entailed there, which includes the police, and homeless, and crime, and tourists, and a lot of people coming and going, a lot of action from all different sides and angles. So there's a lot to be concerned with. What, let's expand out from just Waikiki. What total area, what can you tell us about the neighborhoods surrounding it that are part of your district? How far out of Waikiki do you go? Okay, well, one of 51 house districts is what I represent. So it includes all of Waikiki from the ocean to the Alawai Canal, from Kapahulu Avenue. And then it goes to the west end of Waikiki. It continues with the convention center. And then it goes to about the IBM building in Kakaako. So the district's kind of like a rectangle. So that's like near Kamakah, or not quite that far. Right. Kamakah is right there. Is that okay? And that's where, you know, some of the border is. And what I like about the area, it's where I spend like 90% of my time, from Waikiki to downtown, either driving through or walking through or visiting places to shop or go out to eat. Yeah. Well, there's quite a lot there. We go there quite often. In fact, my family likes to drive through and do vacations. Oh, is that what you do? Okay, well, we wave at people and say, Aloha. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. Photo mom people. We do that too. But what I find exciting is, a lot of the surrounding neighborhoods, I'm sometimes jealous of those neighborhoods because, you know, sometimes the action is on the fringes of a neighborhood. Yeah. Kakaako has a lot of new development, a lot of local people opening restaurants that maybe they couldn't afford the rent in Waikiki. So in Kapahulu and Kakaako, I spend a lot of time because that's where the exciting shopping is, the exciting visitor destinations and the exciting restaurants. Sure. Okay. All right. So now we have an understanding of what encompasses the district. So that's great. As far as, so what you've got is, there's a huge tourism push. There's also business and people who live, there are residencies there. So there's a, I would imagine there's some potential conflict that arises for there. So what have been over the years, soon to be 12 years, what are some of the challenges that you have encountered within your district? When I read the Neighborhood Board minutes from 10 or 20 years ago, a lot of the challenges, the problems, the complaints are very similar. So today homelessness and, you know, we can talk about that. We had the Waikiki Neighborhood Board meet last night and Mark Alexander from the city was there to talk about the issue of homelessness, congestion, development, construction, traffic congestion. These are all big as well as noise. Noise is a really big complaint in these areas. And then in addition to that, you have the visitors and the congestion from people who come to Hawaii and they consume all the amenities and infrastructure. Okay. So it's how to keep everybody as happy as possible. It's a delicate balance. It is never going to go perfectly. But when you come home at night and think about what you did during the day, you say like, I love it. But at the same time, you always have complaints. It's one of the reasons why those of us who get themselves involved in politics in any way.  I did something today. I helped people today. I accomplished a goal today for my district and for the state sort of thing. So that, yeah, most people I think approach it from that perspective and we hope, frankly, that our legislators come with that perspective as well. And that being said, I think what's really important is that your efforts to help need to be very open-ended. So we should have a goal, whether it's to keep our streets clean or to create a safer environment or a better future. Like, that's what our goal is, but we have to be very open-ended on how that'll be accomplished. I think part of the problem with politics is when people become entrenched in their ideas and then they only want it their way. So we have to be very open-minded on that future. And that actually, that's a local and a national and a global issue. We've got one of our biggest challenges that we have at the moment from a political perspective is the widening gap and division between the sides when that is the exact opposite of the intention. The way that our democracy is set up is to force compromise and collaboration. We are not in Hawaii so much, maybe in some issues. But nationally, that's one of our biggest challenges, is we're having fewer and fewer areas where we are choosing common ground. Yeah, and I think in addition to that, the best thing I think people can do regarding the economy is to work hard and not become so concerned about what others have, but just providing for yourself and your family. I think that would go a long way because sometimes it seems the more people start to become, it's almost like some people are interested in politics as a way to get out of running the rest of their life or making themselves successful. So like this program and your friends in the tech industry, what I respect about them is their number one goal is to provide a new type of technology and provide work for themselves and others. And the less time in a way they spend at the legislature, I think the better off because sometimes we have a lot of people coming to the legislature who it's more like a hobby for them than trying to provide. And I've just noticed that some of the most successful people career wise are the ones who spend less time in government and more time in the field working hard. I think there's definitely a point to that. I think that though there's a difference between, you know, I work hard at my job all day long and I provide for my family, but you know what, I also take on more of a desire to support my community, support my district or my island from an advocate perspective. So many of us who have been involved don't get involved because we want to run for office. Many of us want just to be that advocate because you know what I'm recognizing that something isn't quite right and I would like to be a part of that solution. Doesn't mean I need to be in office. It just means I need to make sure that those who are in office are hearing us. And what I would say is myself and others, I truly believe we're hearing from the community. We may not be able to turn this large ship around really quickly, but that being said, I meticulously look at emails and correspondence and reread things. I'm always thinking about that and in a lot of ways I feel very sad that I can't create more change that I want to. But no matter who you are, any contact you have with the legislature, I would encourage you to think that that it's not gone to waste, but you can expect a change overnight. Right, and I think it depends on the number of things. First of all, someone who's new to it doesn't understand how it works, doesn't understand how to engage, and that's one of the things that we've actually covered throughout the time of this show. We've covered this as kind of how to. You have the realistic expectations on this. Right, knowing how the legislative cycle works, when to begin engaging with legislators with a particular issue. If you've got a bill idea or a resolution idea, even if you've written one, when to begin that process. And then what to do once someone has said, yes, okay, I'll champion that. I'll introduce that for you. I'll get it introduced. Then what do you do? And just having to go through that process and understanding, oh, by the way, it isn't just you have an idea and you email it and then that's that. No, if you really want something to happen, that's what ends up that these advocates who spend a lot of time around the building are there because they're trying to make sure that the issue that they're trying to with the many issues that they are advocating for are the conversation has continued. Yes, and what this reminds me of, especially in the technology industry, on how it's changed for the better or worse. Sometimes we have group think. Some of the best change, it doesn't come from creating laws and laws are only as good as they are enforced, but the best change comes by changing or adjusting people's thinking. That creates the most positive change and that's what the internet community has promoted. But on the negative side, sometimes group think has a tendency to bully people. So it's a very delicate balance and I think we're going through the growing pains of this process, but I'm looking forward to the future once we get through these growing pains. Yeah, absolutely. And I think there's, well, it's going to be an interesting year this next year and then I think in the coming years, there's going to be a lot of challenges, but I think a lot of opportunities coming is what I'm hoping for. But it's time for a break. So that's how quick this show goes. So thank you for joining us again and we'll be back in one minute and thank you for joining us. This is Think Tech Hawaii's Movers, Shakers and Reformers, Politics and Hawaii Series. I'm your host Carl Campania and today my guest has been is and will be for another 14 minutes, Representative Tom Brower from District 22. See you in one minute. Thanks. This is Think Tech Hawaii raising public awareness. Freedom. Is it a feeling? Is it a place? Is it an idea? At Dive Heart, we believe freedom is all of these and more regardless of your ability. Dive Heart wants to help you escape the bonds of this world and defy gravity. Since 2001, Dive Heart has helped children, adults, and veterans of all abilities go where they have never gone before. Dive Heart has helped them transition to their new normal. Search diveheart.org and share our mission with others and in the process help people of all abilities imagine the possibilities in their lives. Welcome back to Think Tech Hawaii's Movers, Shakers and Reformers, Politics and Hawaii Series. Again, I'm your host Carl Campania and our guest today is Representative Tom Brower of District 22. That's the Waikiki and surrounding areas. So, again, thank you for joining us and we're talking about District 22. Some of the issues and some of the concerns and the challenges and what Representative Brower has been doing to try to affect a positive change in those areas. So, okay, let's go back. Thanks again for joining the show. Appreciate you being here. Let's go back to your district. One of the things you mentioned, one of the issues, the first issue you mentioned when I asked you about some of the challenges was homelessness. Now, I'll tie that together with the first comment you made which is it's the welcome center certainly of Hawaii for most people. It's the place where we want to have our best face forward as far as the tourists are concerned. And yet homelessness is such a huge issue and that area is such a wonderful area to be that there's a convergence of tourists and homeless people that come to that area and that can be a problem for some people. So, tell us about some of the challenges and some of the problems that you hear whether it's from a business or from a residence and what some of the and I don't know some of the let's just start there some of the challenges and problems with regards to homelessness and businesses and residences. One of the problems and challenges that's created by homelessness is we have a lot of public areas that are not clean and government really needs to enforce the law and keep areas public areas open for everyone not just a few people that monopolize those areas. What the challenge is is that government is sometimes afraid to act. They're afraid to employ tough love. They're afraid to afraid to be the bad guy let's say. So, we sort of have this community now where it's not as clean as it once was and there is litter then the graffiti comes then the criminal element comes and we see this in the parking lots of Ala Moana of Walmart. We see it in stores and we see it on the sidewalks in streets. Something that the city says is they say the the only way to overcome homelessness is affordable housing and no one argues that but we need state and city leaders to say statements like this. We've never had enough affordable housing. It's very possible we may never have enough affordable housing in the future therefore what can we do now what are some solutions to help out with homelessness and we see on the big island the safe zone that was created and I think that would go a long way here. We know where we don't want people to camp. Now we have to tell those people where they may camp until we can find them more permanent shelter. So we've seen in national news the hurricanes in Houston and Florida. We have if a natural disaster started government would act fast to create temporary housing and what about a financial disaster government then acts very slow or lets people stay on the streets. Okay I want to tease apart a little bit there. Something that you mentioned I don't want it to be glossed over too much you said okay homeless start to come into an area it's an open area it's a public area everyone is there. Homeless person will come in and then you mentioned that followed by some graffiti and then the criminal element. Something I think to be clear is one does not mean the other and in my opinion. I don't think that a homeless person or people coming into any area necessarily means graffiti is going to happen or necessarily means crime will happen. It can oftentimes go hand in hand and sometimes it will be the same but I think it's important to try to understand the differences there. Do you agree with that or and and and if you agree what have you seen in that regard or if you disagree I'd like to hear that. Well anecdotal evidence is once we have a homeless camp develop then we see people there doing or selling drugs we see profanity we see frightened visitors who are walking through these areas then we often see the graffiti now it doesn't mean that homeless people are making graffiti but once you have a camp there the graffiti comes through some activity someone is doing in that area and then we get the complaints of the stolen bicycles and then by coincidence we begin to see bicycle parts piling up. Yeah I've actually recently because I'm a neighborhood board in my area where I live and we were talking about underneath the couple of the bridges there are bicycle chop shops. Yes. So I'm sure that they exist in multiple places throughout the island. Yes we have we have moped shop shops in Waikiki they spring up and then the public tries to you know make the phone calls and get government to react and then at some point government reacts but we have the people living under the bridges we have the bicycle chop shops we've seen the moped chop shops you know we've seen all this activity. Yeah yeah yeah okay so it's a one of the things I think that has been done is are the sweeps that come through and will pick people up and move them out of the way. Now there are a lot of factors that go into it I my wife and I have run a non-profit for years where we help foster kids were aging out of the system not become a statistic not become homeless not become you name it across the board and possibilities sometimes we're successful other times we're not sure but as a result of that we learn more about these communities and what they're going through and what they're trying to accomplish then a lot of other people because you don't because you can't unless you're paying attention. Right. So what I what we have seen is with regards to some of these sweeps some of the people who are there yeah I get certainly when we want to have something with pristine and clean and wonderful having a homeless family or community in an area is not great imagery but some of the challenges that exist and this is just that we can have a good conversation about some of the challenges that exist are you just picked up some people and moved them and they probably lost their stuff whatever stuff they had they probably lost and have no way of getting it back. Right. So you've disrupted whatever little situation they have and is that that's not helping them in the long run it's helping how things look from an aesthetic perspective for that moment until people till someone else or they come back is that right. It's partially correct where government should do more is they should provide different lodging options for different people until they get more permanent housing so right now the city's policy seems to be you can live on the sidewalk or you can be in housing first there's not much in the middle we need the shelters in the middle I think we need campsites in the middle. Okay. So that being said where government I think needs to come to the table is provide some economical reasonable options on where people can stay the sweeps aren't intended to solve homelessness the sweeps are intended to remove people from areas they should not be the problem is government isn't telling them where they should be if the shelters aren't working provide some quasi type of shelter there where people will go to now okay I your point is I think exactly correct heading in the direction that we need to do we need transition options not just you can't be here but you can't be there either or where you can end up it's not a lot of places aren't enough places for people to be right so what are we trying to do from within the legislature or from with from communities or from business entities or whatever what are we trying to do right now to create more opportunities more transitional opportunities whether it be camps that are somewhere that are approved or whether it be if we talk about affordable housing what about rent control and trying to deal with situations giving people opportunities to have someplace to live that they otherwise couldn't afford in a rent control situation or one of the ideas that was mentioned to me is let's take one of these one one park and let's turn it into a community center for homeless whether we have micro homes or one person that I know mentioned that they have a a bicycle trailer type home so that they're at least not sleeping on the ground and and create sort of a hub a hub location where they can show up there they can maybe plug an electronic in if they happen to have it many of these people actually do work so they just need an opportunity to be able to plug in sometimes to check on this that are the other or or just you know whatever get to keep their phone charged but also have some some form of security so that they're not being broken into and here these are just a bunch of thoughts I'm throwing at you but what is actually being talked about with regards to addressing this within the legislature and how that would impact your district so what is being talked about on one hand what you're seeing on how government handles homelessness is how our top government leaders want to handle homelessness and I think there's some deficiencies I would say that the state and city are doing a lot of things correct and it is working but that doesn't mean that things are falling apart in other areas so I think the number one thing we need to do we need to enforce the laws that we have regarding cleanliness and no camping areas number two we need to provide more reasonable options on where people will go so whether it's shelters or prototype shelters campsites whatever works campsites whatever works we know where we don't want people to be camping we have to provide some areas where they should be is that being talked about or is that just an idea you have it's not really being talked about because the governors and mayors administration do not believe in that right now they've just got their perspective and that's why it seems like you're either on the sidewalk or you're in housing first and we haven't even gotten into and there's no work work as you mentioned we don't have enough housing we may never have enough housing for a lot of factors but that's where you start to come up with other ideas and the fact that government isn't telling you that I think that's what the problem is so whenever we talk to government officials regarding use of homelessness we hear about all the great things that they're doing and they are doing great things but they need to be able to adapt to the homeless situation as quickly as new challenges arise and they're not willing to do that why do you think that is and that's the obvious next question is why are they not willing well one is they may be there may be tunnel vision on what they think the correct solution is and the other is that they may not care as much as they say they care and they may just want to maybe say that look at what I'm doing on this they may not want to admit the reality do you think that they're being provided with enough options who the the leaders the ones who are you know from the governor's office and the mayor's office and they can create any option that they want to are they being presented with enough are they being told like you know what I know that we're not supposed to have mobile homes we're not going to be but mobile homes are not allowed we don't have mobile home camps or or or or anything along those lines is someone suggesting well well why why can we is maybe time to change that well all of these ideas that you had and and things that have been suggested by a lot of people are are these ideas being brought to them well one is if we can't have mobile homes they're the ones who made the law in the first place number two we know that we need to make changes because of the problems we have so we didn't used to have these problems because we in part enforce the law and required people to do certain things but now and in part I think it could be thinking of millennials you know you can go off into kawai and go live in the woods until deal an hour once a year with you know removes you so so those are you know some of the issues but but there's just not a willingness on in government to make these things happen how much of it is we have about a minute left how much of it is there's just not enough money because that's what we hear that all the time and I know I know what the budget looks like and I I've been through it I've actually worked in one legislative office and I've seen what the process is and what we hear over and over again is that there's just not enough money there's not enough money for anything okay in the short answer in the interest of time there's never going to be enough money there's just really not enough willpower to come up with creative inexpensive solutions or to focus from year to year this year we're going to put a focus of our budget or for the next you know by any of them we're going to put a focus on the budget in this area absolutely and then lay out a plan saying well okay in the next two years we're going to focus on this two years after that we're going to focus on this and then put it in that context I don't think we hear much about grand five 10 20 year plans right because nobody when we want to do something like win a world war we can do that yeah there's just not that level of energy put into this issue it doesn't seem to be that's certainly whether there is or not because you had different conversations with people yesterday we have a whole planning department okay but what are they doing and what's being communicated to people and when I have these conversations most people say well yeah but we're not so I think there's a there's definitely disconnect and it's only our top leaders they're the only ones that can accomplish this because the way government is set up they have the funding ability they have the resources of the departments so it really is our top leaders they're the only ones that can really help fix this problem yeah well there's a lot to do so thank you thank you for coming on the show thank you for your effort a good candid conversation I definitely appreciate that as well and thank you for joining us this is a think-tok wise movers shakers and reformers politics and Hawaii series we've had the great opportunity to have some good discussions over the past I guess year and a half total and this is one of them so I truly appreciate the opportunity representative Tom Brower from district 22 thank you for joining us this is think-tok wise movers shakers and reformers politics and Hawaii series once again to me host Karl Kampania


Sharon Gallagher-Fishbaugh is the NEA Foundation Board of Directors chair. For her, keeping the promise of public education is more than a statement, it's a mantra, a voice in her head she says that's echoed for 40 years. There's gravitas behind that statement, keeping the promise of public education. Sharon spent 32 years in the classroom, teaching special ed and second grade. She was Utah's 2009 teacher of the year, served as president of Utah's Education Association, and then tried but failed at retirement. She can't stop working to keep that promise, only now it's through nonprofits and mentoring. Because we have a sacred trust as educators, to provide an opportunity for learning, to provide an opportunity for growing for every blessed child. It doesn't matter if they are poor, rich, black, white, orange, I don't care. They have a right to public education and a good one. But you went to Catholic school. I did go to Catholic school, which makes me even more qualified to say that the promise of public education is critical, and I'll tell you why. When I was in fifth grade, we were studying government and taxes, I couldn't really tell you what the specific lesson was, but I remember it was something about taxes for public education. I remember coming home from school, running up the stairs to my dad and saying, dad, we go to a Catholic school. Why are we paying taxes to the public school system and paying tuition to the Catholic school system? And he sat me down and he said, because sweetie, we have a choice to send you to a Catholic school, but we have a responsibility to public education. Enough said. You've said your inspiration for becoming a public educator comes down to just one person named Keisha, who had Down syndrome. Tell me about her. We moved to Salt Lake City, Utah, from a very small community in Utah, and the very first day we were moving in, this cute little girl shows up at the back door, knocks on the door. She was probably, see, I'd say eight or nine years younger than I am. And we became fast friends. And I was struck by the fact that this child, who could have been labeled and stopped for all of the things she couldn't do, had so much promise, so many gifts to share. And we developed a fast friendship over many, many, many years. As she grew up, I grew obviously as well and went away to college. When I came back from college, it was after Christmas break. My parents told me that she had died. They didn't call me on purpose at college because they knew that this would affect me dramatically. And I just remember always thinking to myself that this is the type of work I want to do to help. Not that I'm a savior. I'm not. I've made mistakes in teaching, but to be able to see the promise of public education, the promise of every child in every child, in the quiches who have Down syndrome, in the students who are on the autism spectrum, in students who are gifted. And what a privilege to be able to help somebody grow to their absolute potential. You're saying that you are working with kids who are refugees. And that's really impacted you as an educator. So just one story about one of my refugee boys from Somalia. We'll call him Steve. And I taught second grade at this moment in time, and he had come in kindergarten. And by the time he came to second grade, he had quite the reputation of, you know, you're going to get Steve, and he's going to be trouble for you. And watch out for Steve. So I made a mission to find out as much information about Steve as I possibly could. And as I watched him, it appeared as though he was having trouble hearing. So I have a friend who is a physician, and it turns out that Steve had two ruptured eardrums and was literally not hearing anything, likely from the moment he set foot in kindergarten. My friend worked out with his colleagues to donate services to repair those eardrums. And I have to tell you, it was just like this light switch went on with this young boy. He was clamoring to learn every single thing he possibly could. He was just like a sponge. And he said to me as he walked out the door, Mrs. G, that's what they called me. Thank you so much for making me feel smart. But that's the promise of public education, the promise that you're going to look at every child as a unique individual. The promise that whether you come here because you're fleeing war or you're fleeing oppression or whether you were born here, every child that's in this country has a right to that. And I stand by that firmly.


Hello friends welcome to the problem-solving session on selection of terms of an AP in the given problem It's Given that find four numbers in AP whose sum is 20 and some of whose squares is 120 Now they're asking to find four numbers in AP right whose sum is 120 if you recollect in the previous session We talked about how You know the selection of those terms in a particular format is going to help us so in this case I can always assume that the terms four terms four terms in AP Be what all? a minus 3d a minus d a Plus d and a plus 3d now you can ask me. Why can't we take? Simply a a plus d a plus 2d and a plus 3d and my answer would be only You know to bring in some kind of comfort while solving this problem You can always do this, but then what will happen is you will have to play with Equations with two variables. So hence we are trying to you know Play it a little smartly and then we are eliminating the variable because we know that APs in APs the consecutive Terms have constant difference So we are exploiting that particular property to so that we deal with only one variable and Especially when some of the terms is given Okay, it will become very clear in the next step. So some of some is 20 some of all those terms So you can see a minus 3d Plus a minus d these are the terms and I'm adding them and it is given that some of all these terms is Is is 20 so let it be like this 20, right? So now you will see the advantage of taking it as a minus 3d a minus d a plus d and a plus 3d if you look closely all these terms Sorry the D terms Will get cancelled. Okay, right leaving only for a behind and this is 20 So immediately you get a value of a which is 5 correct, so you are You know you eliminated one variable and now you know one variable at least that is a it will be very easy from the second Relationship to find out D and hence You will be able to find out the entire AP or some of school whose choir. So what is the square of these terms? a minus 3d Whole square plus a minus d whole square Plus a plus d whole square Plus a plus 3d whole square is it and this is given to be equal to 120 Okay, now let's try in solve this so Opening the brackets, you'll get a square minus 6 ad plus 9d square Plus a square. This is from the first expansion second expansion a square minus 280 plus d square second expansion Similarly third expansion will be a square plus 2 ad plus d square and Fourth one is a square plus 6 ad plus 9d Square right and this entire thing is 120 now you can see 6 ad minus 6 ad will go To ad and plus 280 will go. So what's left for a square? So we are left with four a squares and then 20 d square and This is 120 and thankfully we have the value of a here five. So we can write this as four into five square is 20 d square sorry plus 20 d square is 120 clear so hence 20 d square is 120 minus four into five square is hundred So this is 20. So what do I get d square is one? Correct. That means d is plus or minus one Okay, so now we have got both a a we got this this one is a and We got d Okay, so now we can find out the AP right or the four terms. So let me try it here. So the four terms are First term was a minus 3d that means it could be five plus one or Five minus one that is six or four am I right? Five oh minus 3d. I'm sorry. No, this is three and yeah, so you have to just a correction guys This is five plus three and five minus three. So hence either it is eight or two, right? This is not a division sign. So let me remove this Either or this so let me put a line like that. So there are two two First terms eight or two next is a minus d a minus d will be simply five plus one that is six here Five minus one that is four then a plus d will be now you can guess this is four and And This one is Six and then a plus 3d is Eight no, sorry two in this case. So I'm taking d as minus one and then plus one Okay, and then this one will be eight So the two APs or two four terms in AP are eight six four two or two four six eight both are Correct solution. Okay. So hence you learned in this problem that You know if you take the four terms as a minus 3d a minus d a plus d and a plus 3d Then it helps in eliminating one of the variables and hence the problem solving becomes a little easier