Live from Las Vegas, Nevada, it's theCUBE. Covering AWS re-invent 2016. Brought to you by AWS and its ecosystem partners. Now, here are your hosts. John Furrier and Stu Miniman. Okay, welcome back everyone. We are here live in Las Vegas for AWS Amazon Web Services re-invent 2016, their annual conference, 32,000 plus attendees center of the tech universe, changing the cloud game, expanding the tech on the consumer cloud, now enterprise cloud. Our next guest is Stephanie Teyengos, the senior vice president of operations at Logix Works based out of New York City. I'm John with Stu Miniman, my analyst and co-host this week. Welcome to theCUBE. Thank you for having me. So the big question is, Amazon is replacing data centers. That's the vision of Andy Jassy. Accenture has a 300 person practice, just to rip data centers and put them in the cloud. How real is that trend? And what are customers thinking about this? You know, we do see this all the time where we have customers who are on AWS and they're looking at some of the older workloads they have. We've had one customer who actually had a managed service provider that they were working with give them one month notice that the data center that they were in was going to close. One month. One month. Eviction. Total eviction. I think they were going out of business. They really had to move something quickly. They were already running some workloads with us and they really came to us, not exactly in a panic, but with a very, very clear timeline that we have to get out. And we were able to help them transition because the type of automation that we're already doing on the AWS platform helps us launch the designs that we have for clients very quickly and then help them really migrate. Steven, take a minute to talk about what you guys do because I think this is an important conversation. This is a trend we're seeing, not just the emergency shift which you guys helped a customer out with, but just in general the concept of how data centers and hosting and how the infrastructure's changing. So take a minute to spend a little bit of what you guys do. Sure. So LogicWorks is a premier partner of AWS. We actually do cloud automation and we're also a managed service provider.  We don't really want to just lift and shift things to the cloud. We really want to help people get the agility out of the infrastructure and really use the services that are part of the AWS platform, not only the infrastructure pieces. We'll help with everything from the design, the deployment, all the way into operations, ongoing optimization, and then the 24-7 managed service is really about giving people the assurance or almost the insurance that they know that they're being operated in the cloud well and they have the right support to really react to emergencies. Stephanie, I had a chance to talk to the cloud migration services team in Amazon. They talked about the six Rs and as you said, everything from kind of the lift and shift that's like relocate to retire to refactor. Changing applications is a tough thing to do but moving what you had to something new, we know doing the old way on a new tool or something like that, definitely isn't getting optimized. How do you balance that? Changing applications is super hard for companies. So what do you really see? Maybe you could give us an example or two as to what customers are really doing. Yeah, no, absolutely. There are so many different ways that our customers have to look at their own significant use case, right? You're going to find some customers who will still say, I have this application, I need it to remain up and functional but really it's not something that's changing our economic status. It's not the core of their business. It doesn't make any sense to move it. Those are the pieces that are going to tend to just be moved elsewhere if they're closing a data center but aside from that, we usually take the tactic that clients should aim for as much automation as they can because it really helps with both resilience and security. From there, when we give our clients really the reference designs that we have we'll really collaborate with them pretty closely to kind of step it back to where they can actually automate. We know that there are plenty of applications out there where it doesn't make sense to completely refactor it but you might be able to do some things that really give a little bit more benefit. I got to ask you about, first of all, great service. I think a lot of people in the enterprise aren't looking for just wake up one morning and taking a new Instagram picture of their data center and moving it to the cloud. I think there is a process. So I want to get your thoughts on the DevOps movement as it's grown such mainstream, how enterprises are looking at the operations and the dev piece. Certainly as Werner Vogel said on stage, the dev test dev is still huge. Andy Jassy calls that Tronge one of consumption of the cloud, Tronge two is much more advanced services. So you're in the heart of this. What is DevOps for the enterprise actually mean today? How would you describe that? Yeah, it's interesting. I've been at the executive summit as part of Reinvent this year. A lot of the messaging in the executive summit is about helping executives in those global 1000 companies figure out what is the best way to really adopt AWS in the way they're going to get the most gain out of it. And what they're really talking about is agility. How are your teams going to be able to operate in a way that's going to give you the agility you want? So there's this entire cultural transformation that needs to happen within the enterprise. It's not solely a technical problem. This is really a culture issue and it's something where you really need to teach people or allow them the space to learn. What level, because we're hearing multiple things and my comment I'm hearing in the hallways, hearing on the cube here, that actually it's more in the management layer than it is in the trenches. Is that, does that work for you too?  Mindset kind of thing. You know, it really depends on the organization, right? Some organizations are building a center of excellence that has some backing from the executives and they're able to push these initiatives, show some success and have other people come to them and say, oh, we'd like to be doing what you're doing. There are other companies that are doing a complete top-down initiative and that's working for them as well. I think a lot of this, again, comes back to that culture piece. What do people within your culture really respond to? And you'll be- So it's case-by-case basis on culture of the company? Yeah, no, absolutely. And we've really seen enterprises where it might be a security team that's really pushing these initiatives because they want that automation around security. And we've also seen teams that are really development teams, that are really the ones who are able to say, this is how we want to operate. We've got one company with us that relaunches their entire development stack 20 times a day. Stephanie, I mean, you brought up some great points there. I mean, we know training is such a huge issue. Something everybody's been looking about is Amazon's going to do about a thousand new significant features this year. I mean, just this week, the AI, the machine learning with MXNet, the serverless ecosystem is huge. When do your company determine, okay, we're going to hop on this next one? Oh, wait, are we ready for IoT or oh, we're going to really focus down on serverless? And how do you start permeating that to your customers and all the various constituencies? Yeah, training is a big question for everybody. We as a company that has really been in business for a long time, we came out of the public or the private cloud space before we started doing managed workloads on AWS. We had a lot of engineers who were not as familiar with the platform as other engineers who had joined us as full stack developers later. We really take the approach that everybody needs to be learning all the time. And when I say that we have engineers that weren't necessarily up to speed on AWS three years ago, these are all people that have stayed with the company and continued with us and are now also working with DevOps tools. We really look at all of these people who are really engaged in what is out there as new to be constantly doing research and development on those new things that AWS is bringing out. For us, we're actually involved in a lot of the betas that AWS will do. So we're ready when they do that launch on stage to say, we're able to provide the service to you. And usually, if we see something in beta that we think is going to be generally applicable to our clients, we are going to do a certain amount of work on it at that point to make sure that as soon as it's really ready for general availability that we're able to provide that to clients. There's so many really interesting new technologies coming out which get people interested. What about the reverse of that? Kind of those blockers and those barriers. I feel like we've gotten over some of those, the cloud's not secure discussions, but I have to think, I mean, compliance still comes up. Certain industries have certain specific regions. So I see either, there's some people that are like, oh, I'm in the retail business. I can't go to Amazon because of that dynamic, but healthcare has very specific in turn to other industries. What do you see as some of those blockers that stops and how do you help along those lines? Right, I think you will still hear people saying that security is a blocker. But if you watched, I know you guys have been doing interviews all day. I'm not sure that you've got a chance to watch the keynotes. We did. But you know, Vogle said today, it's like, security is number zero on that list, right? Protecting your customers at all times is really at the heart of what you need to be doing. When we're talking to customers, we really are trying to educate them on how much better the AWS platform is as a baseline for security on top of which they can build. So security is definitely one, governance is another, but I think if you have the right tools, the right mindset, and the right approach to providing support to your customers, you can give them that real assurance that they know, you know, if I have problems around these areas, I have these trusted advisors that can help us do that.  But the interesting thing that came up in our last interview with John Engates in the CTO of Rackspaces, that brings up something that we see all the time which is the risk of hiring people that build code and then leave is huge. And so if you're going to be agile and fast, your data center example also kind of plays into the, oh my God, the guy who runs the code just quit. And security, another problem, how fast can you keep up with some of the speed of services? If the cloud is doing that in communities in open source or managed providers like yourselves, this seems to be the table stakes for operation. Can you elaborate on this trend? Do you agree with that? Do you see it the same way? Are people nervous about hiring, the cost of hiring, cost of losing someone? Yeah, I think it depends, again, you know, this comes down a little bit to the organization. If you're talking about a small startup and they have very small headcounts to begin with, they might have one DevOps engineer and that really is a risk for them. So, you know, they're going to look for people that can back them up, if they lose that engineer, they're going to be somewhat covered. For an enterprise, they can really train their entire engineering staff over time to really have that skill set. So I think it's a little bit dangerous there and it really is going to help those enterprises make sure that they are still leaders in their fields and that the startups don't actually take their lunch. Right? As far as keeping up, you know, I think this is one of the pieces that's probably important when you consider how much you want to do yourself on AWS and how much you want to partner with other organizations. We're lucky as a service provider that we're seeing so many different use cases for the cloud. As a customer-driven company, if people are asking us about a particular service, we're going to concentrate on that for them. But in the background, we're already doing R&D on a number of things that kind of give them that leg up by the time they come and talk to us about it. One of the things that can sometimes get a little skewed coming to an event like this is like, oh, you know, a year ago, we were talking about Lambda and everybody's talking about it and using it. You talked to lots of customers. Wonder if you have any data on two specific points. Number one, containers. We've been talking about it for years, but where are we with adoption and usage in kind of your customer base? And same thing, kind of serverless, but I would expect this a little bit behind containers, but love any data points as to awareness, usage, you know, interest on those. Yeah, we do have a lot of clients who are already using containers. If they don't really have an opinion on what they want to do in terms of orchestration, we're going to point them right to AWS, ECS, for the orchestration piece. But we also have clients who are very sophisticated in their use there and are really using Kubernetes to manage a lot of that as well. So we are definitely seeing it, you know, they talk a lot about when you're trying to figure out placement for the different containers that you need to think a little bit different about operations and how you have a contract with your developers so you know what each of those containers is doing. And then really on the serverless side, we're using Lambda for a lot of our management functions and we're stitching things together for our clients using it as well. So while we've seen a few people go forward and try to do completely serverless media applications, we're not seeing that as overwhelming yet, but it's definitely coming and we're, but it's definitely coming and we're actually really excited about Lambda. Yeah. Do you have customers asking, you said the Kubernetes piece, is that a tension point with Amazon? It was something I heard is that they were really hoping to hear a little bit more of an embrace of Kubernetes. Yeah, I don't think it's a tension point with AWS. You know, the particular client that I'm talking about that's been working using Kubernetes, he's actually had a lot of interaction with the ECS team to let them know these are the things that we're missing. And you know, they really do listen to customers all the time. And I think that blocks is a fantastic step forward. I think this is a, this is something that they're really trying to address where customers are giving them feedback that they'd like additional features. Well, on their track record is clear when there's demand for something they added. Absolutely. A native service there. Stephanie, thanks for coming on the queue. Really appreciate it. You're awesome. Great to hear the DevOps angle. Final question for you, the folks watching, share the perspective of what's happening here. 32,000 people, up from 19,000 last year, always are packed. They can't even move around. What's the vibe of the show? What's the key takeaway?  You know, even myself coming out of the keynote earlier today, there was such a flood of people. You can kind of feel like the excitement about, you know, all the new technologies that are coming out. Everybody's rushing off to the different sessions to learn the next new thing. On the other hand, I feel like I'm playing Frogger. Every time I have to get through the hallways, it's that crowded. The show has really grown a lot. You got to really be aggressive. I had to fight my way through my, it's like swimming upstream. But a lot of stories for us, as we say, a lot of salmon for us to grab, as we say in our queue business. Thanks for sharing your story and your knowledge here on theCUBE. This is theCUBE. I'm John Furrier, Stu Miniman. We'll be right back with more after this short break.


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a reporter's PTC to it. He would say, whose story is this? And then he would ask questions. Whose story? How did you make this story? So make a reporter accountable for every story that you are having. So the fact checking comes when a human has accountability. Now on his mother's head, if this news was wrong and there was one wrong line, then it was on his mother's head. So when you come to your job, then everyone is worried. So then the same way, there is fact checking in proportion. So that's how you handle it. Earlier it wasn't that much. I think earlier, the news wasn't that fast or there weren't that many media houses. I think as soon as there are political parties and national, there will be so many media houses. So there is a race going on. But there were so many challenges earlier. Now it's too much. Time has evolved so much. But again, another important point that you mentioned, I saw it on WhatsApp, on Instagram. I mean, the news is true. So as a person who's been in the industry and as an expert in this industry, what could you advise to common people to stay in their homes? What should they look for in the news to believe that yes, I've heard randomly, Instagram is nothing. I think it's a source that has been reported. You have to build up the most credible channels, media sources, individuals that you trust. Because these days, there are more opinions, there are less paths. But whenever you consume the news, you can watch it till today. Searching your media house is very, very carefully. Who am I going to trust? That is the best way because all the media houses which have credible reporters or faces who are taking accountability for that news are the ones who will put forth the best paths for you. And as we are closing in and the timer is ticking, I have one last question for you. And since the morning, a lot of people have mentioned the need for your regulatory body to hold, like you said, a reporter needs to be hold accountable for the story. A lot of people mentioned about an industry body being able to hold your media outlets accountable for the stories they are putting out. Do you feel that is a need in today's time of misinformation in the industry body? I think there are broadcasters associations and et cetera which take care of following regulations and if anything is going too berserk. I say a complete no to any governmental regulation for sure because I think that will only be that is not welcome at all. But within the media if people think that we need such a body then why not? I mean we already have such bodies existing. And I think each one of you has to be accountable. We have to just remember who we are. We are not here. Our job is in one line to put both parts of the story in front. Our whole job is to tell you about both the parts of the story. Whatever story your filter can be different from your brain. Their filter can be different. Their filter can be different. You can feel important or not. But whenever you are aware of it please tell both sides of the story. And whenever you are aware of your choice please tell both. So that filter we have to build. If we are good with that filter then I don't think we need. And then from the association there will be prejudices, biases many complications will come. I think media houses and individuals have to look within themselves. That's the best way forward according to me. Very, very well said. With that I am done. Do you have time for questions? Of course we do. How can we live without questions? Does anybody have any questions over here? Is there a question for anyone? I think there is one person over there. She has been very diligent since morning. Very patient and asking some good questions as well. Very good question. Can we get the mic sorted? Hello. Hello. I am Shajia this side from Golgothia's university. I am going to ask a question as a journalist how did this happen to you? Did you have any sad check or any problem? Did you have any misinformation from the audience? No. No one answered you from the back. Okay. I have actually one more question please. My face is like a mess and other people's fault is on me. So it's good that you asked me this question and I have any misinformation so far by the grace of God I am not on any social media platform not because of me. I am doubly careful. When I was told by the PCR the news was that it took five days. I am so careful. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I am a journalist and I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I'll get so careful and listen to me cowardly piece see In the last we mentioned, Modi Sarkar is Sarkar and BJP is partly. You want to refame your question? Okay, thank you. Thank you so much. One question, please. Hi ma'am, I am from a security background and the fix is something which really interests me. So I want to understand considering that AI generated defects have become very common and they are going to be more such defects in the future. Does your news organization use any defect detection methodology or call in an expert to evaluate videos? Absolutely, we have them and we also have a legal head and every second day I send him one video that I get that this is a fake video of AI. So we take up those cases legally as of now. Swing the people who are using our name and brand to sell their product. But it's a massive challenge as you are saying because in coming days it's going to be we have very joys about the fact that my AI anchor came and my field movie and studio movie but now he is cleaning my voice and my face and he is also selling his anchor. So it's a very big challenge and we need to really stop that and see how it goes. Alright, thank you so much. I guess we are done with the questions right now. Thank you so much. Can I hear more? Please. Thank you so much. We have a request you to evaluate. Please request. CMD, Execon, Media Solutions Limited to kindly come up on stage and give the token of appreciation to Anjana Omkarshet. Please one second ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, ma'am, for joining us over here. Absolutely privilege over here. Thank you so much. Request them to kindly get this cleared. Thank you. Alright interesting fashite chat moving on to another very interesting keynote session coming from somebody who's really experienced and has seen it in us. We have a special keynote session ladies and gentlemen with one and only Sankhe Jupadhyaya, co-founder of the red mic. He's been there. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you for being here. So looking forward to seeing you. Please hold this chair for him. And you want the hand mic? Absolutely, sir. Thank you. Pleasure. Thank you. I think if it is in the middle, then it would be better. Why don't we remove this? You don't want to wear it. So I'll stand in both. The mic is ready. Thank you very much. Thank you very much for inviting me. In this profession, I think it's been 22 years. And in 22 years, a good experience is to work in different newsrooms. I worked in a newspaper, I worked in a news agency. After that, I worked in different television channels. I worked as a reporter, bureau chief. After that, the anchor. After that, an opportunity to head an output channel. And now, with all this experience, and with some of my colleagues, to start a news media start-up. The whole thing that will happen today, the last 10 minutes, will be just this. That now we, or anyone, don't need a large media organization. There is a massive liberalization when it comes to news media. We truly, and you won't believe it if I use this word, that this is a random call. We cannot have anything more positive than this. And now I will focus on the next few minutes. Look, the experience of different news organizations for so many years, that experience was something that every place, to think of different people, to know their biases, it's not a bad thing to be biased.  Because it's just a simple thing. Anyone who is saying that he is truly neutral, or he is totally unbiased, they are lying. They are lying because there is only one condition that you will be truly neutral and biased. Do you want to guess what that condition is? Anyone. When do we become completely neutral? Thank you very much. The day we die. The day you die, you will be truly unbiased. And until you are alive, you will be biased. Yes, your responsibility should be that your bias or opinion that should be based on absolute facts. The problem was that in all these newsrooms that the opinion became absolute. And then you used to retrofit those facts. I have already believed that this is my truth. And now I am going to find out where is the truth in this. Where is the truth that will justify my opinion. So when all these things start happening in the newsrooms and I don't believe it wrong, the kind of faith that I want to do, there will be an audience for everything. This is why it happened because the entire news medium operates on the concept of locality, on the concept of popularity. If you are popular, then people will see you. If people will see you, then you will be popular. If you are popular, then because of people, advertisers will come, advertisers will come, you will earn money, you will earn money, you will invest. This is the model. The problem was that while chasing locality, the casualty became the truth. Now your entire focus has to be locality. And the biggest problem in this is that it is not necessary that every locality is true. You are saying the truth, it can be true or not. It is a risk that you have to take. And these are the basics of journalism. It is not necessary that you talk about locality every time. And because of this, many news organizations, where I have experienced this, this is my own understanding, I can be wrong also. I can be challenged on these facts also. I had to believe that there was a casualty behind that locality. And when it became casualty, then many of my friends, many of my friends, who have met in the field, will know that the true spirit that they want to journalism, they get a voice from the heart. Today it is not fun. Today a good sleep is not coming. This has nothing to do with your respect versus EMI battle that we fight in our jobs. What else? Let's go for a job today. Let's talk about this ecosystem. What do ecosystems give you? Ecosystems give you a set of viewership. Then you start speaking like them. And the more you do this, the more you go away. You are free. If you generally believe in it, then you are free. We have started this new media startup. It has only started with one mantra. And the mantra is, what is right is not right. Say what is right and not what is popular. Now it is obvious that a question will arise. And it was the same when we were starting. Let's become heroes. We will speak the truth. Who will listen? Which advertiser will put money? No one will see. No one wants to listen. So my point is, in every, and this experience of my 21 years I would like to share it with you. And why do I say that this is a golden time. It is a terrible liberalization in the medium of journalism. And you can do it. When a lot of journalists and media houses have started capturing these ecosystem-driven catchment areas, they can be political, economic, anything can happen. So you reduced your audience. How many of you have met such people who say that they have stopped watching the news? Thank you, sir. You prove my point. These are people who are opinionated. They are not dead. They are also dead. But in the audience of 100 people, what happens is that people make a lot of noise. Two types of people make noise. People are sitting quietly. These are the people who want to hear the truth. Even if they are not in an ecosystem, because they are not in an ecosystem, they are seen as dead. You went towards the ecosystem. Because you feel that I will get a democracy from here. And what about this silent majority? Where will this silent majority go? I just want to tell you this. Our experience in the right mic, in the last three months, and I don't wish to, you must have noticed that I am not taking anyone's name, I am not taking anyone's name, because there is no need. There is no need at all. I am really, really grateful to the big media houses of this country, for the way they have behaved themselves, that they have created an entrepreneur out of a person who would have never thought of doing this. We were feeling so proud of ourselves. I was so ensconced in the comfort of a job. How can we become an entrepreneur? We all journalists, how can we be entrepreneurs? Thank you to these media houses that now they are creating an opportunity and thanks to technology. The silent majority have the a very big proof. Living shining examples were the red mic. We say what is right and what is not. what is popular that in three and a half months, I have an audience base, a subscription base of five and a half lakh, five subscribers and millions of views. And this is not for any ecosystem. Because I see a lot of comments when you read them, you will know where they are coming from. And if they are coming from a catchment area, because you will say the truth, they will be disappointed. But gradually, gradually, gradually, you will attract that silent majority again and again, which was somehow forced to say that I don't watch the news or I don't watch the news. Or I only watch something else. It is not that these people are not hungry. It is not that these people don't want to listen to the news. In this digital platform, there is a series of news that has millions of views. The problem is that when this is said in the newsroom, it is a boring subject. Actually, the news is not boring. The way of telling you is boring. The way of talking to you is boring. Because you are running after that category. If your ecosystems don't appreciate it, then you think this is the people. This is not the people. And this is what I want to say. I appeal to all those advertisers who may be here, all those people who are thinking that the debates that used to take place on television, why is there no such speed today? Why are there no such views? Because every formula has a law of diminishing returns. Every formula goes on for a time and when you explore it, it will end. Today, if you are looking for a good advertiser, if you are looking for a business opportunity, then it is in this.  Because whenever there is a war of popularity, for the truth, people will get emotional from inside. They will know what is happening. Now is the time. The time is now. In this time, catch people like us. Catch many who are like me very early on. We are available.  Invest in people who say what is right and not what is popular. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. Sir, I request you to kindly wait. We have the token of appreciation as well for you. May I please request Mr. Rajeev Brindavi from Astro Saada, Astrology Portal, to kindly come up on stage and give away the token of appreciation to sir. This is indeed the moment for him. Thank you. Sorry, we are really short on time. So we really have to move forward. Thank you so much. So I think you can maybe take it offline because we have to follow the timeline that we have. I'm really sorry. I would love to accommodate. But next we have a special keynote session. Ladies and gentlemen, the topic that's going to be discussed right now is navigating the new media landscape, opportunities and challenges for emerging news channels in India. We have the privilege of having Mr. Rukendra Rai, CEMD, and a little machine from our news network over here with us. Thank you so much for joining us. Rukendra ji ke liysur siddharikis. Thank you sir. Would you prefer a hand mic or this? Thank you. Excellent for media. Hello. Thank you very much for the excellent for media. Thank you. And a long association. I think with the excellent for media I have. Approximately since 2009 I have been connected. And every function has to come. So before me a lot of the speakers have spoken and Mr. Sanket ji has also spoken. He started his new entrepreneurial journey. What are the challenges and challenges in front of emerging media? The subject is very important. If you are quiet then it would be great to talk outside the door. So as soon as emerging media and what are the challenges in front of emerging media, this is the topic. So as if someone asks an actor that before you there are many big actors, what will you do here? This question can be asked by an old man who is a new entrepreneur. Where is the place to stay? What will you do here? And this question can be asked by a journalist who has a big face on the prime time. So where will you stay? And it is said that the challenges are the challenges that change in the election. And to change in the election we have to find a chance. I would like to give an example. But after that a lot of big actors came. Rajesh Khanna, his co-host Sunil Dutt, Balraj Sahani and Bacchan also came. A lot of big actors and big people came. And everyone was successful in the first place. And everyone showed their talent well. And maybe because of that success they tried to copy Dilip Kumar. So they became copy. But the people who showed their talent and showed their original talent got a new position. And because of that new position people reached a different level. I would like to give a small example of Times of India. Because we are all media spectrums and we have a story of success in Times of India. When Pradeep Guha Ji became the CEO, editor-in-chief he used to challenge us to make Times of India the most powerful newspaper. So the newspaper was powerful. But how it was made to the best of its quality is like a commodity product. People are waiting for it. For example we have tea leaves and milk. So how we are keeping Times of India's newspaper with tea leaves and milk. So Pradeep Guha Ji understood this. He also mentioned this. That cricket and volleyball are the most famous and popular sports in India. So he started the film Gossip with a supplement of Bombay Times. And in every city like Delhi and Lucknow there was a mandate to show the film Gossip on the front page. That one use made Times of India a commodity product and people started reaching Times of India. So it was a very interesting session and I am very fortunate that I came here an hour earlier than the time. And I had a lot of fun. Now I would like to say a few things like what are the challenges in front of us. The first time of Kare Palika, Naya Palika, Bidhai was when the press word was joined. The four organizations that will run the country were Kare Palika, Naya Palika, Bidhai. But when was the press word joined? It has a short history. In the British Parliament in 1787 a session was called to attend a big ceremony. And Britain's parliamentarian was a political thinker, Edmund Bogg. Edmund Bogg for the first time in 1787 he said in his speech and from where the parliamentarian and the media made a voice that Kare Palika, Naya Palika and Bidhai should be given all the powers to keep an eye on the press and the media should be made so that Kare Palika doesn't take her responsibility and doesn't take care of her job properly. Bidhai is making his law and legislation and Naya Palika is taking care of it properly. It is very important to have a third eye when Kare Palika, Naya Palika, Bidhai and the press were born in 1787. The fourth pillar was built in the courtyard of our Lakh Tantra. And because of this we got a lot of help. I remember a great man. I would like to say that the four fathers of the United States and four or five fathers of the nation had an American president, Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson was a great man. His speech always inspires me that in the past, how much of a politician and how much of a person he was had the feeling of giving and giving. There were a lot of politicians in our country who were the president of the United States. One of the doctors in Hirtal, when he was a health minister, he was sitting there. So, Thomas Jefferson said that if I am making a government which is a press, then I don't want to do such a government. If anyone is making a government where there is a press, then I would like to welcome them. I would like to welcome them. So, Thomas Jefferson, who was freed in the United States on July 4, 1976, and who had become a press fourth pillar in Britain in 1787, and then in the 18th century and in the 19th century, if we are talking about Thomas Jefferson, and his politics in the future but what happens is that where there is a lot of idealism, many times you can also see the fall. In the same place, in the United States, there is a lot of media. Mr. Puliger, who is known as Puliger Ward, is a journalist. Mr. Puliger and his colleague was one more journalist, William Hertz. And when in Cuba and in Spain, that is, when Spain was attacking Cuba, and America was looking at all the conditions like a spectator at that time, at the same time, an incident occurred in the sea area of Spain, and the newspaper by William Hertz had so much news that America had to get into the war. Later, this was proved that it was a complete lie. It was a tragic accident. But thousands of people were killed in that war and two countries had to get into the war. Just like that, I would like to mention another incident that would show America the Vietnam War. How half of the clothes were burnt by a young girl and she was screaming on the street. That was the news of America. That was the news of America. And the people of America were standing against the American government. And America had to stop their war night and night against the Vietnam. And the caption of that photo that we write that it's a story that comes out of America and makes the war. And it's a story that comes out of that war. And in that America where the government said such a big thing, that was the beginning of the war. Now, on the news and on the news I remember a story by Jetli. In some society, they said that Ramnath Goyankar did not have any other business. If they had any other business, then they would have to take the middle path or take their steps back. Now, the second question is that the established media house and the emerging media house in front of us, that the owner of a big media house I am not very sure I am not taking such a name. Please forgive me. We are not in the business of news we are in the business of news. Now, the question is that if a book of news or news is sent to the house of news then how many of us will like to read it. One can see that it is a news but if it is a news, then why would we watch it? Why would we like to watch it? Why would we watch it in the newspaper? Maybe in the newspaper, we can see that there are news with it which is important for us. But on the news Mark Payne, a poor man gave a lecture that if you do not read the newspaper then you do not have the information and if you read the newspaper then you do not know it. Why? Many people and many agencies surveyed and asked whether the world has been better or worse. Many people said that the world was better but the world was worse. Experts say that the world was better in the world. We are living in a very beautiful world and in a very good era. But why did people say that? There is a reason behind it that people have come to understand that the news that is being published is not making their mind very healthy. They are getting tired and are getting more negative in their mind. In such a situation if the news and the newspapers are not responsible for the health of the society then we should be proud and positive in people's minds. If we are not able to do this then we are only being responsible to present the negative or wrong news. I do not think people are saying wrong things. People who say are saying things that they understand and see the situation.  I just mentioned that there was a big incident in the mainstream media but no one showed the news that a common man was being attacked by a group of people by a group of people. The entire country took the government's support and the paramilitary force was deployed and things were improved. The second incident when Osama Bin Laden met American Marines they did not show the news in the mainstream media. There was a man who used blackberry but did not show the news in the mainstream media. The first person put the news in the blackberry group. Then Osama Bin Laden and many others reached the news channel. Today's competition is between emerging media and established media. Our competition is in the hands of every person. As long as we reach as long as we tell as long as we are sitting here there will be a group of 10,000 to 5,000 people who will put the news in the blackberry group. So the challenges are not like before. The challenges have reached the next level. And as many challenges will reach the next level the society will also reach the next level. As I was listening the society did not know that what is the danger from AI Sudhir Chaudhary gave a very good answer that the people who read the teleprompter and read the book are really dangerous for them. But those who have content who are educated who go for their style they are not in danger because what is AI AI is a product made by someone If Mona Lisa is made by Leonardo da Vinci then Mona Lisa cannot be dangerous for her She has the ability to remove thousands of Mona Lisa Yes, AI can do that Mona Lisa can remove many but if her carbon dating her provenance then Mona Lisa will be a fake she cannot be the real one then news reader is a different nation and journalist is a different nation but the journalist and news reader will have quality she does not need to be afraid of AI and it is necessary that when the industrial revolution happened then this question came what will happen? all people will be helpless not only helpless but those who have the best industrial revolution then I believe that as much as you go for a hybrid model you will progress in your life like those people who started getting married in other caste they have become very successful they have got a very good brain and those people like I say about the Adivasis they are poor just for one reason that they could not get out of their jungle from their territory they only married between the Adivasis if they were married in Bombay, Delhi then they would have a super brain and like I say they do not even get married that is why they are going to that time those people who went out to get married those people who went out to marry their children they reached a next level in their life and I believe that in the coming days if they get this chance from other groups then a super human race will be born a new generation will be born which will write a new history and the today's AI will also be born of the next level so if we are emerging then we are emerging if there are challenges if there are no challenges then what is life and maybe before I was saying that there is no neutrality I also believe that there is no neutrality when you say that there is no neutrality then you are very poor that we are never free from our partiality that is we have learnt and got the values we never get up we keep fighting if we feel that we got the wrong values and this is good then the old values are also embedded in us but we try our best like I have told a story of Mahatma Buddha and when he met Yasodara then Mahatma Buddha also agreed Yasodara when Buddha's father invited him to the royal court and his 10 friends gave him the message and maybe the message didn't reach Buddha because after meeting Buddha and King Sudodhan said that you are doing this much work I know that you will not come back but you are doing this much work saying that King Sudodhan is struggling to meet his son so maybe one of his friends gave him the message and when Buddha came to meet his father he came and stopped in a temple he was shocked that the son of Samarata came he became the Prime Minister he came King Sudodhan was also going to meet Buddha made a request that I have a life I have learnt a way to live to live a life I will come to meet my father I will not go to the court I will not go to the court everyone is his wife so after meeting him I asked him that he will not meet Yasodara I will ask Yasodara and Buddha after that I will listen to one of the most important accounts of this world so King Sudodhan said that no, Yasodara has sent a message that if you want to meet him you can go to Yasodara's palace he refused to come so when he met Buddha he went to Yasodara's palace but why is Buddha Buddha my heart was shocked when he went to Yasodara's palace he did not say that the door was opened by hand or opened by hand or the door that was given to him he came to the palace to meet his father he stood at the door of that door and said, he was very disappointed like a beggar is standing at someone's door to ask for forgiveness and see Yasodara Yasodara comes out and holds Buddha's hand like Rahul's hand without saying anything Buddha is standing there and asks that you will not tell me to come inside so Yasodara says that you were the one who gave this palace you are the one who gave it Buddha said, now I have nothing except this beggar and why is this also, I think more than this the one who had seen a dog drinking water by the sea so he thought that this dog is more evolved than me to drink water why do you need a beggar why do you need to wash it so the dog left the beggar which was after Buddha so listen to Yasodara when Yasodara called him inside so Yasodara asked him two questions the first question was don't you trust me so much that the beggars knew that they were going to war they would not come back they would put the arrow and bid farewell you are a human to give something to society to give something to the world they were going on such a big journey so don't you trust me so much that I bid farewell if you would talk to me Buddha said Buddha said that for the first time I have no answer and the second question Yasodara asked that you have returned as a Buddha after 12 years tell me that you could not be Buddha in this palace could not be in the market could not be in this world then Buddha said that for the second time I was quiet and I had no answer because when any Buddha how can he deny that Buddha could not be made in the palace and in the world that God could not be found and life could not be understood then Buddha said in his promise that for the first time I felt that I could not be free even after becoming a Buddha from my ancestors and Yasodara told me that yes I should have told but at that time I was not free from my ancestors I was afraid that as a Buddha you would stop me from becoming a Buddha in my steps so what I said that being a journalist neutrality and impartiality of impartiality we can never be free from our ancestors there is no way we try to be better and it is our right to be better it is our right to be better it is our right to be better because of our efforts today we are the same in the journey of the development of this human civilization of three lakh years I share this youth in six parts the first the youth of the people who were the leaders the second when the fire was extinguished then the human life became the greatest power in the hands of the people when we were the weakest animals in the jungle we started scaring the biggest animals in the jungle this was the second time and one lakh years it took to reach the source of fire from the people after that within one lakh years we started living in the society after that we started farming after that the humans started making things with their hands then the industrial revolution then the revolution and in the time when I say it happens I am finishing in a minute so one last example I would like to give when in our Delhi city two of our big community were sitting together where do we make mistakes and why do we do when the incident of 1989 when the government of the public party came and for the first time it was announced on Raju Gandhi that this is not Mr. Clean and in that the discussion started so in the first round the name of Mr. Chandsekhar came out a young journalist sitting in the community as soon as he heard it he told it on the phone Mr. Chandsekhar went after an hour and there was a senior journalist sitting in the other community whose age was nearly 50 and he did not show any hurry after a while it came out that Mr. Pratap Singh will be the Prime Minister now what happens that both the events were right both the events were right in the first round Mr. Pratap Singh was announced and in the second round such a debate such a debate such a debate that Mr. Pratap Singh was formed and he took it the news world is very beautiful very good and what we live in is also very beautiful if there are no elections then there is no life and if the elections are made then obviously then the fun of the media will end so I want that every day there should be elections we should face it there are no brilliant ideas every day there is a timeline in which we go it is the timeline of the elections but this struggle has brought us to where to shift ahead we have ample opportunity and the start up is a new word of today which should be learnt by the media that resources are scattered what can you combine that will help you Jai Hind Jai Bharat Thank you Thank you so much sir you have listened to our program very well about the future and about the past I would like to say Mr. Abhishek Soni from Ashur Sagar so that he comes to the stage and he gives away the token of appreciation for him please once again for this beautiful Thank you Thank you sir Thank you very much Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you Thank you There are several kinds of misinformation obviously one is the malefied kind when you are being told something which is obviously wrong with the intention of telling you something wrong one is unintentional something that is being circulated which is a rumor but I think the very fact that a professional media industry exists and in the end push comes to shove when things become bad during covid everybody put their TVs back on and they are back you are going to get a bit out of youtube and twitter but in a large measure you still come back to professional journalist gives us some hope that the pains we take is worthwhile so I am not going to say that we get everything right all the time but I can tell you a lot of painful effort goes into making sure we get most things right most of the time Thank you The very same pain that Rishabh was speaking about how do you can you just break it down for us what does a day to day fact checking helps us to look like a lot of important things that should go into it see actually just to take up where Rishabh has said what we are dealing with because what we are saying is noise because it is one of the news you are getting from the mainstream media the other is the news that you are getting on social media there is a whole lot of news that is coming to you unfiltered which is why I am saying even in this age of social media mainstream media still will exist and has a platform and the reason for that is because whatever we put out goes through editorial checks the checks and violence is not there in the social media or the citizen media but the interpretation of that how it is presented and the context that is also equally important that is all part of the noise how do you separate the news from the noise I will give you an example if I see a speeding car that is going to be a news be I can say the rich kids car I look at the car obviously the driver driving it has money is he drunk, is the boy young you can come to some kind of conclusion late at night whatever that kind of news is fine the minute I say the driver was Muslim and the citizen was killed that is noise that is something one has to be very careful of how we present facts that is something you do not see in social media you know the first can't be identity go through it I don't want to present it in a religious point of view or they want to shame the which poor drunk so some criteria are good some are not, some should be really avoided in today's day and age and I think that is where mainstream media plays a role not all channels unfortunately are sticking to this which is really sad in today's world I mean that is something one really needs to look with them and find out but by not I think be careful as to how we present the news that is important one thing I am noticing to everyone that I have asked this question is the whole social media is coming up a lot you have been in the industry for quite some time even when social media are not taken over the whole totally right so I will come to Maria Maria the rate of misinformation or noise that is out there was similar when social media was not there also or did they just have a boom add to the boom and misinformation so if I were to put this in context in 2005 when I started as a journalist that was the age of Facebook and output it was not the age of Twitter and Instagram so things have changed at that time the sensex was hovering somewhere around 6000 right now it is in the range of 60,000 so you can imagine how much distance we have traveled but overall yes things are different but I think what is happening right now is also that those who are entering mainstream media are also realizing that mainstream media a great degree of channels and newspapers have great degree of credibility even today that so if a tweet is put out by an NDTV Twitter handle then all editorial checks and balances would have happened so and similarly if you get a news which may be out from any other handle you will think twice you will not be sure about the content because the person behind that content is hidden and he is taken or he or she has taken that recluse I would say in they have hidden their identity so that is why I say that no matter what yes the responsibility on us is far greater but all is not lost and still the media retains its credibility perhaps in the next few years we will realize that the kind of bombardment of sorts which happens on social media in terms of content because its free for all everybody can talk about it in their own way I feel that social media is great for opinions but when it is about information I am not too sure about it there has to be a great degree of understanding that those of us who are putting it out have gone through checks and balances they have gone through multiple layers of checking and cross checking with our sources and then putting that out so there is a difference between what is being put out by say a news handle versus what is being put out by an anonymous twitter handle very well said I mean I want to open this question up to the entire panel what advice people in this room who are regular consumers as regular consumers of news what news should they trust and what should they look for so as to avoid the likes of whatsapp university things that we hear about Rishabh we can start with you you can't help it when you are going to receive information and the information from whatsapp generally comes through trusted sources it comes from friends it comes from family you forward it on and those people trust you so your trust carries along with it but it is systemic if I am going to a legal proceeding I might have some common knowledge of the law but every technicality won't be known to me I will muck it up after a point of time if I am a doctor I might have some common knowledge of when to have a parasite more but when it comes to life and death I don't want to risk it right and trust my common knowledge it is a very delicate and probably risky thing to do unadvisable for most people so just to pick up and you will find consensus here the reason you will find consensus here because the noise is out there already you are surrounded by noise you put on youtube or netflix half of the video just figuring out what you want to watch there is too much content it is not a problem just for news people netflix is facing problem in how to figure out monetization of content hbo is facing this problem cnn is facing this problem and so are we here in India the noise is already out there at the end of it when push comes to shove and I just give you two examples when everybody was stuck and a lockdown was being announced and a lockdown was being announced what were you relying on did you put your television back on were you watching tv were you watching tv news or were you relying on twitter and whatsapp and youtube for all your information if you find that you were relying on tv you are relying that you went back to the people that you trust similarly during elections everything will happen but on election counting day will you be watching it on youtube you might be watching a news channel on youtube probably come back to the mainstream for all the people who are worried about the future of media and I will end with that thought it was said the print media is dead but now on mobile phones everybody is reading again then it was said radio is dead now podcasting is everybody wants to jump in and start their own podcast so audio is back tv is also reinventing itself and there is an evolution that is taking place Indian media industry is not very old it is about two decades old most of us have been around that for about two decades three decades certainly not more than that NDTV itself is the oldest 30 years now ok so that's it alright so compare it to how we compare ourselves to a western tv industry which is 80-90 years old it's evolving of course content has evolved very rapidly but there is so much content everybody is a content creator so when you open things you are you want to be okay you want to be governed by an algorithm deciding what you get to watch or at least you want a human being applying their mind on what you should be watching I'll leave it at that thank you Rishabh Priya coming to you in the last couple of sessions there was the term of deepfakes and AI coming up a lot and audience questioning the speakers on the stage about the risks that they come with with regards to misinformation so what you are saying about the growth of these deepfakes and AI how do you think misinformation can become because there is a lot out there people looking at other's faces showing as if they are saying things how do you think that should become well we are lucky we are living in an age of branded personalities news is not news it's not just times now on music or NDTV it's also whether it is Maria or Rishabh however the anchor is becoming we don't say we say and then you decide whether you trust that anchor or you don't trust that source and for us we are saying that whenever the TCI tells us something she first verifies it for herself because it will be attributed to her that she has said it so your source is very very important in terms of deepfake which is why I would say that you know that so it is an anchor so that same anchor is being shown in a deepfake showing that the audience should I think the public and live know that this is the anchor the credibility of the source is that she would not be doing it so in the end the back stops with us it's the kind of credibility we project to our viewers the kind of trust we bring with them because we are talking to our viewers every single day we are there in your living rooms on your telephone so we have most intimate connection you know us as well as better than we know you know you are seeing your news you have a consistent relationship with us we switch channels but we remain the same so that way I think the best way to back you deepfake is your own personality, credibility and your consistency which is what something we as news anchors we have to if you are not true to yourself you are going to be your biggest loser yourself so at the end of the day look price before you say something or you are going to come back and hunt especially now every word is recorded and said back and if I may quickly add one thing you know where Prishab said during Covid I think it was the finest hour of television when we mentioned media was during Covid and just when Covid ended came a worst on the Sushant Singh Rajput case how badly we felt you know during Covid we were so reliable we were giving the right information medicines vaccinations way to go and not to go minute a sensational thing happened and we lost it and that was really really sad from where we came crashing down that's something we have to introspect right as we are closing there was the end Maria one last question for you what role do you think journalists play in sort of educating people about media literacy right and how journalists can sort of influence people who you know sort of consume the right kind of content and right kind of news if I were to say yes so there is a difference between a journalist or an influencer or a journalist or a content creator right so we know that I mean there's you may have a different terminology but then journalists are because of the institution we represent and increasingly what we are seeing we have seen that in our respective journeys that when we started as journalists we were supposed to be specialists so a beat was given and you would nurture it you would interact with politicians or bureaucrats or try and ensure that you have you know the right set of people in the right set of places that's why when you grow as an individual in the profession your credibility increases because your source building has happened I would also say that in the present generation because of social media there is this instant fame which comes one tweet one story and you become a star but then it's also about sustainability I mean you're continuing to sustain yourself as a credible journalist only because if you break stories you continue to do it election after election you continue to do your ground reports that's what distinguishes overnight phenomena with someone who has been there seen there around who can refer to you know in the election programming you'll hear repeatedly by journalists who will talk about what I saw in 2014 what I saw in 2019 because you'll be going back in time and talking about it so I think that is what the present journalism or journalists are bringing on the table a number of them are there in across media who have been around they are bringing energy and experience and they're talking about it by not carrying that prism of ideology or by prism of propaganda the number of them who are there on the ground by saying and following the basic principle with which we all began which was about seeing it and saying it so what you see is what you say wonderful thank you very much Maria do we have time for questions unfortunately okay if anyone has question I think our speakers we'll have to take it off thank you so much I think I was right good discussion on separating you from nice thank you very much there will be there will be there will be there will be there will be there will be I believe the mic is not working but my voice is loud enough yes I think I I think I think Thank you so much for sharing your wonderful insights and information. I do have a lot of reliable information on misinformation. So, to this to them, I request the team to kindly clear this. I know the awards are set to happen in the evening and we're coming towards the end of the evening. Energy may be coming in the evening. I would be happy if they give an exchange for media that there's no doubt when it comes to energy. Give it up for exchange for media. Thank you so much. The stage is set and clear. And on that note, it's an honor and privilege to call our next guest for a very special keynote session. Ladies and gentlemen, please give it up for the founding editor. I have been waiting for a long time to be here. Thank you so much for joining us. Pleasure. We are running out of time. Please wrap up. We are running out of time. We are running out of time. We are running out of time. We are running out of time. We are running out of time. We are running out of time. We are running out of time. We are running out of time. We are running out of time. We are running out of time. on our parent platform or on our social media platform they are not able to tell the real reason of our content as we have uploaded an interview and within 24 hours, we have cut different platforms and you keep sending us this try or keep being happy that your content is so good that a lot of people are posting real shots or chunks by cutting them so both the situations I hope that with the help of technology we will overcome this problem too in a few minutes there will be an award ceremony here most of the people are waiting for it but before all the excitement some Gurugambhir people should come and give their speech Mr. Anurag Bhattra from the same programme is here with the help of this man the audience might come to know that next time the beautiful trophies of the three colours are distributed here one of them should ask for their culture whoever is the winner today should be very happy there is a lot of knowledge in the world if someone comes to ask for knowledge from us then we say a lot of knowledge is being given stop it start acting our mentor is the executive editor in chief of India Today Group Kalipuri ji he told us a year ago which was amazing I will share it with you which is called on the stage he said that a lot of people in the world and he came to study in a very prestigious university so his professors shared this there are a lot of amazing ideas in the world but they could not come on the ground there are a lot of amazing ideas in the world but the ideas that he thought he changed them in reality he did not just stick to knowledge he brought them to action he fixed the bugs that were lacking and he said it too easily because he thought he fixed the action he fixed the action we are in our newsroom there are 2-4 problems you must also be there and new creative solutions come but I think this is the high time when we are new we are changing India changing India which has been changing for thousands of years this is its beauty the earth does not forget to move on its own does not forget to change the country think about it it is good our marketing brother said one more thing he said it is important to go here because people from the industry have the advantage of giving knowledge so people from the industry think about it that the news platforms such as Akbar TV should be prepared because they go everywhere I will not do the TV Akbar because I do not have the point because I have another mentor Supri Prasad he should not say anything and should not say anything keep watching TV because these are credible news sources they have their own ideas but they are digital but I think advertisers should go beyond the trust of the digital algorithm to see which brands are on the ground they have very great credibility and who have huge wealth wealth does not mean money wealth does mean Southern who do not have the status of wealth and who have no status of wealth which people who are successful in getting trust they say a lot and say a lot but the flag of a party because as an adviser you also want to In the long run, the public knows who you are and who you are getting from and where your news agenda is coming from. When the public knows, then we should also correct ourselves and when we go in front of the public, we should not be ashamed. Many of us are doing this. It's very easy to say on some stage that the media has become like this. We don't know what other people will know. We know how the business is going. How many types of pressure are there and how good news can be made among these people. All of you are doing a good job. Thank you very much for giving me time and time. May God keep their health and well-being correct. It's a very long time. As I was saying, the numbers are increasing. I would like to invite Janardhan Pandey, founder and managing director of Net Value Media to give a token of appreciation to him. I need a moment to talk to him. What's it for? What's it for? What's it for? Thank you. All right. Long day indeed. There's a long way to go. But on that note, we have the final and the second session right now going forward. This is going to be a fireside chat with the one and only Supriya Prasad, news director of Artsterg India and GNT. She's going to be in conversation with Pankaj Sharma, editor of Samachal for Media. In the last session of the day, it is... Can you please clap like you ladies and gentlemen? So Pankaj Sharma once again ladies and gentlemen. So the stage is on yours. Namaskar. I am Pankaj Sharma from Newsmax. I am the director of Artsterg India and GNT. Supriya Prasad, you are very welcome. Thank you. I have a small question. You have been on the media for a long time. You have seen the media in different ways. What are the big changes that you see in the media? The media, as you have seen in the last session, when the society is changing, then everything changes. Whether it is in the film or the media, whatever it is. Because it reflects all the society. Your society is changing. So you see it in the same way. I can give you an example of this. When we started in 1995, we were able to write all the books. At that time, we were able to monitor each and every one of the books. At that time, when I was sitting here for 24 hours, people were using Jai Salaam media. Jai Salaam was moving in the truck. So you can see how the society has changed. You can see changes everywhere. As we have said, the director has come. He is the director of Artsterg India. He is the director of Artsterg India. In your view, what kind of work do you need to do? There is no need for any work. The most important thing is that we are the people. Whether it is news or TV or television, everyone's basic purpose is news. The whole structure of the news is something that is very important for people. People should have faith. The people who have faith will have success in the system. Whether it is news or news, whether it is news or news, people who are used to watch Artsterg, people who like television or television, but it is important that you have faith in the system. You should have faith in the system. I am telling you that the success of Artsterg, Artsterg has changed with time. So it is important that you have to keep changing with time. No matter which medium you are in, you will have to keep changing with time. I remember that there was an idea of Abhidhu Bhatia. When there was no answer in the Qalaf, there was a lot of talk in the Qalaf. The Qalaf will be published in the first period. But the people who accepted it early, when we were in Australia, people asked us how it can be done in the first period. We made it. When you keep changing with time, you will sustain it in any medium. But you should keep yourself in the system. If you have to eat roti, sabzi, or pizza, then you are in the Qalaf. When people are eating pizza in the society, then you have to believe that you have to eat it. If you have to eat roti, sabzi, then you will not be able to eat it.  As you said, everyone wants to know about his friend. But there is a time when a person is showing his friend how to eat it. He is showing his friend how to eat it. He is showing his friend how to eat it. This is what I was talking about. People think that for small people, for small people, for their small work, they have to do the right thing. They do not think that they will not be able to eat it. This is why the reason for the success of Aasthal is that for small people, for small work, for small success, for small work, for small work, we filter the news again and again. When the Ram Mandir was going on, Aasthal was giving 25 lakhs. The rest were not saying it. Because people wanted it. That is why they are not successful. Because for small things, they run the wrong news, they want to find the way to success. That is the wrong way. If you are not successful, if you want to find the way to success, then you will never be successful. You should always have a long way to go. You should have a long plan. You should set your goals and you should be successful. Whether you are showing news or showing anything, if you are going to find the way, then you will not be successful. You are not successful. But in this way, you are not successful. You are successful. You are not successful. You are not successful. You are not successful. You might be successful. There is a lot of demand. There is a lot of demand. There is a lot of demand. Then there is a lot of demand. But you know, I believe that speaking the news and the teaching is Lemia Usava. So, I also Hisston. So, it is our in]. We have to increase money every year. You have to do a lot of things. So you have to see whether it is good or bad. And the other thing is that you don't believe that as the AI will increase or decrease, then the rest of the people will be affected. This is how all these things are going on. So let's talk about it. See, the AI is a technology company. It is a computer and the AI is the source of its time. So the AI should be used as much as it can be used in technology. But the AI anchor will not be used in any anchor. AI anchor is a limited role that can be worked on. But it can't be done. And we are doing it in a positive way. First of all, bring the AI anchor. And AI is not a threat to any anchor. But yes, we have a lot of things with it. So you can see that we are friends with Satat-Langu. Now you can listen to our Black and White in Satat-Langu. You can listen to the Black and White in Hindi. They are not able to speak their language. So the positive use of the AI should be used. What is the benefit of AI technology? When we talk about technology, we can talk about the benefits of AI technology. So how do we get the benefits of AI technology? How do we get the benefits of AI technology? How do we get the benefits of AI technology? I told you that you can't justify the way you use AI. You can't use AI. You can't justify the way you use AI. You can't say that you use AI. That is the nature of a human being. But the ways you use AI, the ways you use AI, the results are successful. And they are successful. So how do we get the benefits of AI? How do we get the benefits of AI? We have made a lot of fake checks. We have made a lot of fake checks. But even after that, there is no effect on it. Many people think that fake checks are unique. They keep saying that fake checks are wrong. So how do we get the benefits of AI? The fact check works. But the fact check is wrong. Actually, people don't get the benefits of AI. So the journalist is asking for the benefits of AI. There are some who want to make a fake check of AI. They want the fake news to be promoted. So people do it, but it doesn't happen in our society. So we don't worry. We keep on taking care of the police. People are saying that we are doing a lot of things. We are not able to get the benefits of AI. So how do we get the benefits of AI? People keep on taking care of the police. People keep on taking care of the police. People keep on taking care of the police. I am saying that we are some people who don't have the benefits of AI. We don't have the benefits of AI. People don't get the benefits of AI. I am telling that we don't get the benefits of AI. We don't provide the benefits of AI. I have thought that we get the benefits of AI. We have run a campaign. We have run a campaign. We have run a campaign. So the point is that 5-6 minutes is not enough for the channel, you can watch the content of the channel, especially if you have the right to watch it. We don't have the right to watch the content of the channel, we don't have the right to watch any content of the channel. This is also a melodic set of propaganda, people are not thinking about TRP, they are not thinking about it. You can't watch TRP in the channel, you can't watch TRP in the city, you can't watch TRP in the city. What is the problem with this? This is the problem of the election, what is the preparation for the election? We have no choice but to vote for the election, we have no choice but to vote for the election. What is the problem with the election? We have no choice but to vote for the election. We have no choice but to vote for the election, we have no choice but to vote for the election. There are a lot of star anchor reporters in India and you are so famous, how can you manage them? No, I have to do this, everyone is working as a team and everyone has their own work. Everyone does their own work, we do our own work. And in that, we think that we are not a star. We all work with the team, we try to do good work. What is the problem with the traditional reporters in India? There is a lot of information, it looks good. But the work that will be done by the reporters can be done by the reporters. It is not that there is any political party that says that they will be made by the reporters. But this work is very serious and it should be done in the same way. What is the problem with the election? We have no government, we have no government in any state. We have no government in any state, we have no government in any country. But as some people have an LCE mind, they have no government, they have no government. They don't have an information. And they should come to you to do it. When you work in a system, it's your work as well. And we cannot work in this system. We have no government that says that we will be made by the reporters. But we do not have government that says that we cannot work with them. We have no government that says that we won't be made by the reporters. In India, you have achieved a number and today you are very successful. So, you can see that you are the most successful person in the world.  This is my goal. I think for the first time in my life, I have not met anyone. The hard work is the most important thing. You can work hard and come. I have never met anyone in my life to do anything. To do anything, to do something. I was a steward and I have been a steward for a long time. I have done my best. I work with the same passion. I also work with my colleagues. This work is not a bank's or government's work.  You work with the same passion. I have reached here with the same passion. You can work with others and come. You cannot meet others. You have to do something differently. You will have to work with others. You will not have to think. By the time you are working from home, you will be able to do the same things for a long time. You have to do a lot of work for 4 months. By the time you are working, you can't do anything. But, you work hard. And you should go on the right path. You should never go on the wrong path. You should not go on the wrong path. I can give you an example. I was not aware of any problems in my life. I was not aware of any problems. I did not have any such person. I was in his house. I was working in my own farm. In the farm, I was always promoted and I remember the path. I have heard a good thing about India that she promoted the farm. She is doing a job that she can manage a farm. I have seen a lot of people who are not good at farming. First, she is a farmer. She is a farmer. It is good that you do not do good things. You should not go on the wrong path. You should not go on the wrong path. I am a farmer. I am a farmer. I am a farmer. I have been here for a long time. I did not want to go on the wrong path. I cannot go on the wrong path because of the pain. I cannot go on the wrong path because of the pain. I am a farmer. I am a farmer. I have been working with the pain for a long time. I cannot go on the wrong path. I cannot go on the wrong path. I am not repeating the same. This is the problem. I think this is the system of our country. You don't have to worry about it. You should be aware of it. You are the leader of your work. You should learn from Mr. Dhrit. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you for your advice. You have given us a lot of time. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Finally, come to an end of the 13th edition of the news next way 24. It was all the ones over here. We'll be right there for morning and a huge shout out to the entire team of exchange for media group, especially on rock. Mr. The entire team of exchange for media organization. All thanks to the console and what there is all for the support. Hotel staff. Thank you. And we will sign the awards very soon. We'll see you again. Thank you so much. This is the award show. It's signing off. Thank you so much.


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