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Give us a call, folks. One note's going on in your world. In the world of the S&Ps, let's take a look at them. What do you have? Bottom line, folks. This is gonna be a cool hour because it's gonna make it or break it. And what I'm talking about here is this. So you take a look at the spy. Well, first off, the spy we have a high volume low laying out here at 380. So that wants to get tested. Now the high of that high volume low is 397. Now we've got into that to 389. So that's eight points into it. Now normally if you get eight points into it, the bottom line is that you're gonna go after that low. We have an expansion of volume today, but the expansion of volume is not gonna be higher volume than the low. So here's the bear case. The bear case, well let's go look at the S&Ps first. I'm gonna go look at the futures because that's gonna be the quickest way to really get us an understanding of where the strength versus the weaknesses. I just finished the workshop. We had a great workshop. Bottom line, great market for a workshop. There's no doubt about that. You talk about moves, you talk about swing points, you're talking about everything above. So we take a look at this S&P. What you're gonna see first, I'm gonna bring you right here is the last time that we went lower with volume. The last time we went lower with volume, you can see it's right at that point right there. And guess what we just did, folks? Okay, now showing this when the market was actually down at lows today is that the market didn't have enough strength to go lower. The bottom line is that the last time that we had come down, you know, that's 71,000 contracts on the E-mini and that price projection, well, the price of that low is 39.30. So bottom line is it bounced along the bottom. You can see that you start getting a little strength and, you know, bottom line, it got up right to, it got to 39.31, okay? Now, we just came off that 39.31 and because this bar went over the high and under the low, it's like, it really, you don't know which way that wants to go. That's the bottom line here, okay? Meaning just on this bar. So you're gonna wait for the bar that we're on right now to happen. And so the bearish pot would be that we lay at this level all you go to lows, it doesn't have to break lows, you just stay down at lows, okay? That's your bearish pot. Now, let me go back to the spy and my take is that what's gonna happen here is that we're actually gonna be on the bearish pot, not the bullish pot, but I wanna show you both of them because we are that close that this is like a toss-up and I know it's gonna be lighter volume so when it's lighter volume, you always have to be cognizant that you can get a really sweet bounce, particularly on a Friday. You know, what happens on Fridays is that it can be like a disaster but the other side of that, you can get a full rejection and you can bail out. Now, if we bail out, meaning that this thing wants to bounce again, what you're going to see is that you're gonna need the spy to close five points higher. Right now, that's gonna be really tough to do, man. That's the bottom line. Right now, it doesn't have it. We're gonna take a look at the NQs. The NQs, you know, they've been the weakest in the marketplace. They continue to be the weakest in the marketplace and we take a look at this NQ and what you're gonna see inside the NQ. Last time, now watch this. This is when you can tell the difference too. Last time with volume on the way down, you could see on the NQ, that price was $11,972. Now what happened on this bounce, the NQs couldn't make it to that level. So that's telling you that, okay, the NQ is number one, are still the weakest in the marketplace. It hasn't been able to make that bounce. Now that bounce also, folks, and this is what's important to understand, is that watch this, that bounce is only a 0.382 bounce. Let me clean this up for you because what you're gonna see, when you can only do a 0.382 bounce, it's like, okay, man, you're going nowhere, man. Yeah, 0.382 bounces, it could be a dead cat bounce in a second. So you can see there it is laid out right there. So that number is $11,944. You know, so this next hour, man, is gonna say it all. That's the bottom line. Now, gold, look at this, man. This is pretty intense. This is about as cool as you can get. What we've had with gold, so picture this, folks. This is how strong gold is.  It's held up with the dollar almost at all-time highs, okay? And then all of a sudden today, watch this, this is a classic, man. I mean, if you're trading gold inside the future market, you want to see a test with lighter volume. GC, come on. And it takes off like a rocket chip. Wait, I see this. This is really cool. So come out with the CPI this morning, you get a hot CPI. Bottom line, what do you have here? You see gold went both ways. First off, we get down to 1826, the same bound to 1844. See the volume there? 19,000 contracts. We came all the way down and tested that with 6,000.  You took off the swing point. The swing point has 13,000. We took it out with 15,000. We ended up higher with 12,000. And then that's on the intraday, the daily. On the daily chart, what you're gonna have here, you're gonna get an ABC structure in the way up. The B point of this is 1878. You've already hit 1879. You get 250,000 contracts. This baby's on its way up to the 2009. Stay right there, folks, come right back. Time of booming inflation. We are purchasing powers eroded. There's no better place to protect your harder and money than in gold. Vistagol's flagship asset is the Monk Todd Gold Project in the Northern Territory of Australia. 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My take is that this thing is setting up for another leg down, I'll show you why. So we look at Amazon, right? You know, great start, right? Bottom line, you can see what happened. Amazon came out to back to its breakout area. That breakout area, okay, so pre-pandemic Amazon was at 101. Well, we hit 101.26 and it wants to get tested. That's a high volume low. So you see that number there? That's pretty intense. If Amazon can get back to pre-pandemic, right? And then, let's put on top of it, one of the biggest banks in the world, JP Morgan, watch this, you get JP Morgan, okay? This has got destroyed. This is not a pre-pandemic, it was at 141. It goes up to 172, it's at 120. That bottom line tells me that we're not even close to going where we're gonna be going in this correction. You know, so you get a bounce out of here and then what would end up happening is this. This is how this works. We put the spy up, you get a bounce coming out. You see, you're gonna get a rejection of lower price.  It would go for the highs again. And if that's what we're gonna get out here today. You know, the bottom line is that, you know, we'll see how that shakes out. But because of the aspect of how many other equities have made it down to that price point, was troubling paradise. So it's just up and down. And lower, huh? Best thing to ask me every day when we go, so pictures folks, we have two floors. This is the second floor, we have the fifth floor. So I can back upstairs. Okay, well, the market got an A, Tom. Yeah, just up and down. And the thing is amazing. So check this out. Fuck, how many weeks and how many days and how many months that it's just going up. And then you're gonna be asked me, is that all the market does is go up, right? It's just up and down. It's kind of weird, huh? It's, there's no doubt. Well, it's not the same as real estate, that's for sure. Well, you know the difference is that this is what the difference is. The difference is because there are cash markets every day, a market to market, you know exactly what it is that you're dealing with. Now the difference in real estate, okay? And you know, that's what we're gonna talk about right now is the aspect that the prices are always on discovery, right? And you know, there's not one place that you know, okay, this, I was gonna say equity, this price, this house or this store, if it's a commercial or retail, is worth this much money. Well, we're all speculating what it's worth. Yeah, you're looking right at the aspect of, you know, what is out there? What is the competition? And then you're speculating, okay, we're gonna put it out at this price and see if we can get some bites. It's like the fishing pole. You throw it out, man. You know, you make sure everything's right. See whether you can get those bites. Yeah. Now let's talk to them about the bites. Well, first of all, let's talk to them about the MLS. Cause what happens, folks, is this, when we're deep in the market, okay? So deep in the market, it means that I like to say that we know every doorknob. Yeah. And that's a fact. When I say that, and we're talking the same peak area, but it's still, you know, a city of 300,000, okay? So the bottom line is that, you know, when someone mentions a place, we can kind of calculate it in our head. What is what? Yeah. You know, which is pretty cool. Okay, then we dig into it. So right now, you know, everyone is at a point, I say not everyone, but most of us are at a point that, hey man, is this going up or down? What is this doing? Right? You know what I mean? Well, it's kind of the same thing in the MLS, right? It's like good stuff. It is. It's coming down. So I think it's kind of testing, seeing where it's at, but I think it's slowly going to start coming down. And the reason for that is why? On the MLS. What we've been looking at. Oh, okay. We've just been seeing a lot more listings. Right. Yeah. So before we would have about an event of what goes on the contract and what's listed. Right. Yeah, let's explain to them. So when you look at the MLS every day, folks, we have two different MLSs because we actually go all the way up to Crystal River because we love Crystal River. I happen to love the Crystal River. So I always want to know what's going on up there. And then we have all of Tampa, St. Pete. Orlando. Orlando. Yeah, all of that. And so when you pull this up in the morning, what you can see is you can see number one. New listings. New listings. What's sold. Yep. What went on the contract. Right. Price decrease. Yeah. Price increase. Right. Back on the market. Yep. And pending. And pending, yeah. Right. So we see those every single day. So for the past two years, it's been about even as far as new listings and what went on the contract. Right. And that's why there hasn't been any houses. Yeah, because everything just goes. Right. Right. We're starting to see almost a double of new listings and what goes on the contracts. Right. So, you know, every day changes, but some days are like double. It does. And that's, and that texture folks has been going on really only about three or four weeks. Yeah. Realistically. Yeah, we never, we didn't see this in the past two years. No. And then, so the, we want you to get out of this more than anything is that, that, you know, I always talk about supply and demand, price and volume. It's the exact same thing in the real estate business. You know, I feel like I have such an edge, man, in the real estate business because of the market. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Because what ends up happening is that the, I mean, it might be a leg, but it's a cut and dry deal, man. If there's more places for sale and, you know, there's less buyers, okay? Bottom line is that, you know, prices are going to come down. Well, we're also seeing a lot of price increases too. Yes. The price decreases have been huge. Yeah. No, this has been pretty crazy. So, and then back on the markets, as these places come back on the market. So I think there's going to be a lot more available real estate out there. Right. And what we don't know yet, this is what we don't know. We don't know as to the ownership models, meaning who the actual owners are. Are the owners, this time, strong owners? Are they weak owners? You know, I mean, I'm not looking for a 2008 deal, that's for sure. But what we don't know is that have too many folks turned around and bought another house for, you know. Investments. And move work from home, you know what I mean? You can have plenty of, you know, places that you're in the city and then all of a sudden you have a place outside of the city or in the city or right next to your office, you know, whatever. And I think one of the biggest things is the aspect of this Airbnb's. Airbnb's, yeah. You know, what we don't know there is that have a lot of people got into the marketplace over their head. And the reason they've done that is that, you know, they get Airbnb's going and they've been going pretty good. Yeah. You know? How much longer is that going to last though? Well, what we know is that how much is the competition inside the Airbnb market? Where are they and will they continue to get, you know, that types of rent? Yeah. Right? Well, some of these Airbnb's too are like ridiculous. No. You can get a nice hotel room instead of one of those. That's pretty intense. Stay right there, folks. Bess and I are coming right back. As well as the markets that move gold, which is the currency and bond markets. New subscribers get a 30 day money back guarantee so you have nothing to lose. Every Monday morning I publish the gold report with coverage of gold, silver, bonds, the XAU, HUI, GDX, as well as more than 30 different mining equities. 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S&Ps are off 82. Let's go to Keith and see what Keith is up to. Keith, what's going on, brother? Hey, Tommy, how are you? I'm doing great, man, yourself? I'm doing great, too. Got a question for you. You know, I'm flat in some accounts and I'm looking for some deep value plays to kind of help write out some of the stuff. Instead of going entirely flat. Yeah. So I'm looking at this QVAL. It kind of caught my eye a little bit, as well as RPV and some of the other deep value plays. I'm just kind of curious what you thought. So let's take a look at this. It's QVAL, OK? So it says Alpha Arch Value ETF, right? Now, the thing that's intriguing about this, so the low for the year in this is trading at 52, it's 32, the high is 39. But when you look at this, what you're really buying is the oil market. I looked at, I mean, these are all energy stocks. So it's like they might be value when they started the fund, I guess. You know what I'm saying? I got it, got it. But that's what they are, you know? So we take a look at this. Put this up on a weekly for a second. And you're going to see that the high was 39, you're at 34. You know, this is not a bad setup. I mean, I don't think this thing wants to trade under 3250. That's kind of how it's set up, do you know what I mean? See that high volume high there? That's how it, I just put this across this. Yeah, it's kind of interesting, isn't it? That's a high volume high. We come down, even when we had volume. See this one, it never hit the high volume high. The high volume high is the 3104. That one hit 3449. You know, so you'll stay in this for a while. I mean, that's kind of how this is set up, meaning the consolidation. You know, I'm not quite sure what is confusing on this is more than, well, it's not confusing. I suspect more than likely. Let me see when this issue of information. Performance holding, it doesn't have issue. I'm just thinking that when this started, you know, the oil stocks and the service stocks, I mean, they'd been a mess for years, right? So when it probably started, that was the value, you know what I mean? Right, right. When you take a look at this particular point, you know, well, you know, if we just go, I mean, you go to any of these equities now and you're talking like a different ball game. They're really not rotating into values, I'm really. Yeah, exactly, exactly, you know. But energy is still a place to stay, right? That's the other side of this, okay?  It's not gonna happen, folks, okay? This oil market, you know, we're trading out here at 120. I think, well, we're looking at Keith, I think we're gonna go to 147, man. So, you know, it's a decent place to be in this market because it's, to me, it's not that you're even hiding in the market, they're making money, hand over fist. Well, yeah, watch this, this is probably, this is gonna, you know, people go out of their minds on this, okay, how much oil can make, but they forget about the times that they can lose so much money too. That's the reality, it's like anything else, man. So look at these numbers on Exxon. Exxon is almost gonna double, not double, no, they're gonna go from 285 billion to 398 billion, okay? So that's why you hear all the squawking, you know, that, hey, they're making too much money and all this, well, you know. That's pretty amazing, huh? Isn't that amazing? That is amazing, man.  So, I would basically stay in that sector. You know, I don't see that sector because this is what you also have now. The dollar, oil's still strong and the dollar's still at highs. If the dollar backs down, man, you know, oil's just gonna continue to go higher because oil is priced in dollars. So, I think it's a good place to be in the inflationary era. Yeah, yeah. Cookin' brother. Have a great one, man, have a safe one.  Pretty crazy, yeah. And 100 billion, huh? And that was revenue, right? That's revenue. Yeah, if we look at this for a second, yeah. I know, what Beth is saying is 100 billion and 90 days. That's what this is. Watch this, this is crazy. Okay, so this quarter's coming up 98 billion and 90 days. Wow. Yeah, you can see why people get flipped out. Yeah, we should go into the oil business, huh? Yeah, well, the oil's banks, yeah. That is on a continual basis. I wanna ask you a question about silver. How come silver has to be flat? Because what happened? 15 years or whatever. No, there's no doubt. And what ends up happening, why do your friends always say they want silver? No, no, I'm just wondering, like, it hasn't, because we're talking about gold. No, there's no doubt. Well, today, this is an anomaly out here.  You can see silver, you know, really still hasn't done much. I mean, I need to see a sign of strength in silver. So a sign of strength means that you have wide price spread so the barrel goes long. You have an expansion of volume. Now, what we had out here today is, excuse me, a rejection of lower price with lighter volume. So I think silver's gonna go higher. But, you know, silver is not gold. That's the bottom line. Still want supply? And there's a huge amount of supply. And what folks, if you go back, folks, in the history of, you know, financial dollars, I mean, how first we were on the gold standard and we're on the gold standard, silver was actually pot of that gold standard because of the fact that so many ounces of silver was worth an ounce of gold, okay. So what happens, unfortunately, is the silver bulls think that at some particular point that can go back to that. And I believe that aspect was like 42 ounces of silver versus an ounce of gold. But my take is that that'll never happen. You know, silver, you know, it's a good move. I'm not saying silver's not a bad move, but it's not gold, it's not platinum. You know, and we are never going back on a gold standard or silver standard all the above. Trust me, it would all be in a depression. Yeah, we would. Because what happens, folks, is that, you know, now debt is not great, there's no doubt about that, but if debt is used in a way that is prudent, you know, my take is that that's how markets grow. Because that's how, let's say, I'm trying to start a business, right?  I come to you, we're in a little village, right? Because this is how this works, okay? You just gotta, you start thinking bigger and bigger cities. Come to a village, you're the head of the village, right? I say, hey man, you know, I got this idea that I can do this or this and I gotta make some money. Like, can you, like, can I borrow five bucks off you? Now I'm being like, yeah, I'm really going back in time, folks, but this is the same way.  Well, all of a sudden, you know, I start producing. So if I start producing, then there's three or four of the guys that I can put to work, right? I put them to work. You get the five and a quarter back. I never would have had a business. I have a business now, I have four people employed. That's how the structure's laid out, okay? And that's, you know, that's the structure we're in and the better that you understand how that structure works, the better off it is. Now, the other side of that structure, which should flip people out, is that the banks are the ones that, on a continual basis, is that when they make profits, guess what, it goes in their pocket. When they lose, what do they do? That's right, it's off. They're socialists, man. They're socialists. The banks make everyone else pay. Yeah. Every single time, folks, it never ends, okay? The profits go in their pocket, the losses we pick up. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. So let's screw it up. And that's why people are so flipped about, see, it's just, and I can see why. Yeah. 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Best of the Hulie, Tom O'Brien. We do appreciate your growling and prowling with us out here. We have the Dow's up to 667. You get the Nasdaq down at 342. S&Ps are up to 91. And Best of the Just had a pretty cool question.  Yeah, the question is, where would Gold be if there was no people investing in crypto? Right, so let's look at XBT first, okay? So my initial answer to that question is it is a different market. You know what I mean? Which you said earlier, do you know what I mean? It has been a different market, okay? You know, the folks that buy Gold, I would say, understand value and I'm being prejudice here, okay? Because I love Gold. But my take is that we understand value a lot more than hedge funds. People say I have value stocks, okay? Well, the bottom line is that it takes 10 tons of dirt to make one ounce of Gold. That's crazy. Okay? So picture this, when I first got in the Gold market, you wanna see something crazy, man? This is crazy, folks, okay? This is when I swear to God, I wouldn't buy a shirt. I wouldn't buy anything when I first started in the Gold report because Gold, the low of Gold, all-time low, is $252. For you folks that were in that market with me, we got in at $282.50. Now is that in the last 20 years? Or is that the all-time low? No, all-time low. It's always been... Well, the all-time low as the way we were traded. Oh, I see. Okay? Because you couldn't own Gold prior to that, you know? That's what ended up happening, okay? So the bottom line is that when I first started the Gold report, it was an aspect that I would say that, okay, so here's the all-time low right there, $252.50. This is where we get in a couple years later. It was $258.00, there's $264.00. And what that was, by the way, it went topside with volume, come back and test it. That's when I bought. Wow. Okay? Now you can picture, though. You can buy, this is, I'd be shopping for a shirt or something, right? Yeah. And I'd look and say, hold it, man. I can get an ounce of Gold because I had a lot of physical Gold then. Yeah. But let's say $300, because yeah, even instead of a premium then. Oh, I can buy a shirt that's gonna cost me $50.00. I says, do I really wanna spend one sixth of an ounce? So I'd be looking at it and be saying that's a, that's almost a ton and a half of dirt. Yeah. So the bottom line there was that, yeah, I just kept buying Gold and buying Platinum and that was it. Then we sold out on this way up, we sold out at $1,700. And I've got the $1,920, but the bottom line we sold out around here something. It was $1,650, $1,700. Wow. Well, bottom line, at this particular point, you know, to go back to the crypto for a second, is that, that is a different market. The, that market in particular, you know, you have a whole new younger people coming up. And unfortunately what happened is that, you know, my take on this is that, they just have not been markets long enough. Yeah. And the people that have been in markets long enough, you know, the twins, the, I'm just talking about people that are running these platforms. Yeah. Know that, okay, man, we get something happening here. We're gonna grab all this money. And, you know, one of the big players yesterday figured that three quarters of all the funds that are into crypto are gonna go out of business. Wow. Yeah. That's pretty crazy. That's insane. You know. Crypto, huh? Yeah. So look at that. I mean, we get, we has a tiger holding gold from $305. That, okay, is real wealth. Yeah. So when you buy gold on the market, there's no dividends though, right? No, there's no dividends. I see. So you have to sell. That was always the, no, you don't always have to sell. To make money. To make money you do. Yes, you do. Okay. But just like that. So Frank, that's Frank from Gloucester, okay? So picture, cause I've done the same thing. You have a coin at $305. Yeah. Well, that coin right now is $2,000. We're at $1875. The premium's on these. Let's say it's $1950. Okay. He's giving it to friends, family, get married, whatever. You're getting married. All of a sudden, I'm giving an ounce of gold. He's like, hey man, he's giving me $2,000. Well, for me, it's 300 bucks. I've done it. I was giving bonuses out to our employees. Oh yeah. And gold. Well, I did. That, you know what's so cool folks, check this out. When gold was that, and I bet they still have them. Yeah, that's awesome. I was giving them ounces of gold because I felt that in the future. And the future comes quicker than you think. Yeah. That's the other side of that, which is really wild. It comes much quicker than you think. Time is just flying by. Time is just flying by. Yeah. And as we're talking about time flying by, we're gonna have to go look at this market again because let's see, we're at 347. And what this market did is that it got up to a .382 retracement and gave it up. So this is gonna be a little problem in paradise. Let's see, we are seven minutes into this bar. You can see what happened here. There's your high volume bar. That was the 39.30. We got to 39.20. This bar here has volume in it on the way down. That's saying you're gonna go after the lows.   The market can get some strength. The market will go after this B point over the weekend. The real question is gonna be, does it have enough volume to break the B point? And if it does, then guess what? You better get out of the way because this is one monster ABC structure down. You know, yeah, I might as well do the numbers right now so you can see it. Now see the cool, so picture. Best of die, every single day. I mean, there's no doubt. Between looking at Listens, right? Looking at the aspect that we've seen, this is out, this is, and so check this out. This is a game folks. Now wherever you are in the country, I want you to check out this game. Cause this game is kind of nasty but it's out here. Yeah. Price increases. Yeah. Okay, so check this out folks. There's a few brokers right now, even at St. Pete. Well, this is, we know they're in St. Pete and I know what they're doing. And so what they're doing is this. They're increasing their prices, thinking that you and me and everyone else are gonna look at that price and say, oh my God, okay. Let me see if I get a deal. Yeah. Right?  This is anecdotal. There's a piece of property offered at five million, right? What ended up happening? This is a friend of mine, okay? Bottom line, he wasn't gonna buy it. It just wasn't worth it because there's a piece of dirt. So it's like, you know, you can buy dirt for less money than that and hold it as long as you have the other rentals to pay for it. But a five million piece of dirt, he wasn't capable of holding it. I wouldn't be capable of holding it. It's just way too much money, you know, as a carry as it just is. So what ends up happening? He calls a friend of his that helps him out. The bottom line is it goes on the market. They put it on the market for seven million. Yeah. The guy, you know, we were talking yesterday, just the day before, he said, I can't believe this. I said, no, no, no, it's the game. What happens, that's the game because the place isn't even worth five million. Because what has happened, folks, in between the like the two million, three million, right? Yeah. You know, you see this a lot on the houses on the beach, right? That some people have made a million dollars, like just like that. Okay. And so people don't have to raise them. It's like, oh, I need that house right now. I need it right now. Okay. Stay right there. Best of luck. I'm right back. Sharpening your skills as an investor is like getting better at playing a musical instrument. You have to practice, sure, but you also need excellent instruction from experts. At TFNN, you'll get advice and guidance from the authority in technical market analysis. 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This folks actually listening in the tiger's den folks that were listening the day of the, when I was on the radio buying it in 2002. And there's folks that came to that gold show and I want to appreciate, thank you so much for growling proud of me all these years, man, because we had gold shows. So picture this, I used to sell gold all the time. We've done it twice. But there's two different things that end up happening. I remember out in my desk, right? I'd have all these ounces of gold stacked up. I'm saying this is pretty wild, they got 100 grand stacked up. But if you sold even 10 ounces of gold, like, do you know what I mean? For the risk that you take in, it was a bad business. It didn't make, you know, we could, gross wise, yeah, you're pulling in millions, but the difference was that you're literally making $20. Like right now, if I sold gold right now, you're making like $20, $25 on a $1,850 purchase. Not worth it, huh? Well, you screw up one time and then see a later, man, right?  And a lot of it had to do with, you have to trust the post office. We never had a problem. I never lost anything. But the bottom line is that that's how you send it. You know, they send it and show it to the post office. But you can get the gist of it. Anyway, pretty wild. So, market's down here, best fit. All your friends are gonna be calling you. All red. All red. Like I said, what the heck's been going on? And get back to the real estate a second. This is every time that we have a market go down like this, right? Where does it do? Well, I think there's gonna be less cash, right? Exactly. So, I made an offer, you know, not too long ago. And usually there's always some cash offers. Oh yeah, this is big, folks. Listen to this. This one was, there was 11 offers, but they're all financed. You hear that? And what was the price? The price wasn't a lot. No, it was like $2.40. Yeah, folks, that's a problem. 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The creativity of St. Lucian shone brightly on a Sunday 10th October as a nation shared in the celebration of the Republic of China Taiwan's National Day. Hermione Mark has the details. The Embassy of the Republic of China Taiwan in collaboration with the Cultural Development Foundation held Taiwan National Day celebrations in St. Lucia. Taiwan on October 10 celebrated the 110th anniversary of its founding. The virtual event held on Sunday paid tribute to Taiwan and its impact on the development of St. Lucia. The vibrant production saw the participation of artisans in St. Lucia and Taiwan and featured addresses from diplomats of both countries. Minister for External Affairs, International Treats, Civil Aviation and Diaspora Affairs Honourable Alva Baptiste congratulated the government and people of Taiwan and Prime Minister of St. Lucia Honourable Philip J.P.F. country for its continued support. I would like to offer my heartfelt congratulations to the government and people of Taiwan. Since the resumption of diplomatic ties in 2007, St. Lucia and Taiwan have maintained close and mutually beneficial relations. St. Lucia appreciates and cherishes the partnership with Taiwan that has to a tremendous extent enhance the national development agenda of St. Lucia and people's livelihood. St. Lucia stands with the Republic of China, Taiwan on this national day and every other day. St. Lucia believes that Taiwan's participation in international affairs should no longer be denied. We continue to see Taiwan's generosity in nearly every spare of human, social and economic development. Taiwan's students continue to benefit from Taiwan's scholarship programs as our students earn a world-class education at Taiwanese universities. We look forward to the teaching of Mandarin hair in St. Lucia. Ambassador of Taiwan to St. Lucia, His Excellency Peter Chen, speaking on Taiwan's work in 2021, said the embassy had a productive year. This past year has been fruitful and productive for the embassy. It's been a wonderful adventure for myself as well. I have faith in almost every constituency in St. Lucia. From the coastline of Miku to the top of Pitong, we strive to bring the benefit of our country's cooperation to all people here. I'm honored to build people-to-people connections for St. Lucia. I'm glad that we can share and witness beneficial achievements together. When Taiwan and St. Lucia work together, we can accomplish incredible and impactful goals. The Tourism, Investment, Creative Industries, Culture and Information Honorable Dr. Eunice Thile commended Taiwan on its contribution to St. Lucia's community development through the Taiwanese constituency development program. Just about every community in St. Lucia can boast of some project that was provided by the government and people of Taiwan. As Minister of Tourism, only recently, I participated in a link-up with the people of Taiwan showcasing St. Lucia's talent, showcasing the sights and sounds of St. Lucia. We know we have friends in Taiwan, so as you celebrate your national day, we join you. We celebrate with you, and we wish you the very best in the future. Happy National Day. The winners of the Best of the Best Taiwan Suyun Tusha Lantern Competition were also announced during Sunday's celebrations. First place was awarded to Kecia Peter, winning $1,500. A lantern will be displayed at the 2022 Taipei Lantern Festival in Taiwan. Nisa Felix won second place and the prize for the most innovative lantern, winning $1,000 and $500, respectively. Giovanni St. Oma captured the third place prize of $700. From the Government Information Service, Hermione Marc reporting.


If someone left your church because they were in disagreement with the way your church ministered, but they weren't disfellowshipped, would you stay in fellowship with them outside of your church? What if they're starting sharing their problems with your church with you? What if they were slandering your church? Would you still spend time with them? I would not. I would reprove them and just say this is inappropriate, you're slandering. If you have a problem with the pastor or the elders or whomever, you need to go to them. The same. I've been in that situation. Most of the ladies here know about that, but if they have not been excommunicated according to Matthew 18, I still am gracious. My husband and I were at a funeral a couple weeks ago where some of those people were that used to be in our former church, and I gave them a hug and had brief conversation. They were not ones who had been excommunicated, but ones that had been part of the issue, but I just feel like, well, not the judge of the earth do what is right. I have to guard my heart against bitterness and resentment. My husband and I did everything we need to do within the power at that time, and so that was 10 years ago and just loved them, but I would do as Martha, if they had been excommunicated, then we're not to eat with such a brother. We're not to have any fellowship with them and reprove them.


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Here we are at Wally Park. Going to LAX to fly to Toronto. Dan's my Uber driver today. Hey, it's George the Tech. And Dan Leonard with a booboo. Aw, he got a booboo. Wacked his head on the hatch of the car this morning. What a way to start your morning at 4.30 a.m. Anyway, we're at LAX heading up to Toronto to the Great White North.  For Vio North. And I'm just reveling in the sheer disaster of the acoustics of Terminal 6 at LAX. It is so noisy and echoey in here. Look at the ceiling. Now we always talk about ceiling clouds. You like a good ceiling cloud. This place could use a couple of those. This place needs some ceiling clouds. Big time. It is all 100% hard surfaces. The whole ceiling. You got glass all over here. Drywall here. You got marble back here. It is an absolute acoustical disaster. I mean, listen to the announcements. What a disaster. Anyway, that's our life. We can't walk anywhere without hearing echoes, reflections, bad bad sound. Anyway, we're having a, we're gonna be up there doing Vio North and we're going to be doing actual V-O-B-S from Vio North, a tech talk, which will be airing at our usual time. And it should be a lot of fun. Dan, what are you looking forward to at Vio North? Speaking to the crowd, seeing people I haven't seen in a long time. There's a significant hug debt going on that we have to take care of. And now I have something that everyone will give me sympathy for. Maybe we can all sign your Band-Aid. Oh, there you go. That'd be different. I have a bigger Band-Aid if you want it. I'm good. I'm good. And speaking of Band-Aids, I mean, speaking of voiceover actors, it's David Tovay. From the same flight I knew it, dude. Good to see you. One of the chances. I've been here the whole time, I've been here to see you. So anyway, we're gonna go take off, eh? We're gonna go to Vio North. We'll see you. They got donuts on board? Donuts and beer, eh?  Hey, it's time for voiceover Body Shop. And we are at Vio North. This is a great lounge they have here. We've been talking to people here and we've been having a great time. It's the last Vio North, but it's like a lot of other voiceover conventions, but this one was really special. We met some really cool people. It's more intimate. You know, it's a much smaller scale and a different crowd. It's Canadians a lot. Anyway, and so it's just, it's got the Canadian vibe, but you still get all the same great knowledge. Right, and we're like looking at like Massey Hall and all these cool places here in Toronto and, but we're gonna talk to a bunch of different people, so join us right now. Voiceover Body Shop. Voiceover Body Shop is brought to you by VoiceoverEssentials.com, the home of Harlan Hogan's signature products. Source Elements, the folks who bring you Source Connect, JMC demos, when quality matters. VioHeroes.com, become a hero to your clients with award-winning voiceover training.  VoiceOver Extra, your daily resource for voiceover success. And by World Voices, the industry association of freelance voice talent. And now here's your hosts, Dan and George. Well, we're here at VoiceOver North. We're having a great time talking to all sorts of people in this beautiful lounge that's here, the VIP lounge. We're VIPs. Yeah, you know, it's like we actually have like VIP badges and stuff. But we've got talking to some great people, Elly Ray Hennessey, and Brad Newman, and Kim Handysides and her daughter Lisa, and some other... Is it Jay Cox? Yeah, yes. And Jack Cox. Sorry, Jack. Yeah, he's a writer, producer. Director. Direct and casting director. All sorts of cool stuff. Great interviews, some really cool insight. So stay tuned as we'll get into these. And let's start off with our first interview. All right, we're talking with Dervilla Trainer, who is the founder and the head honcho here at Vio North. And thank you for one for having the conference. Thank you for coming. Our pleasure. It's been great having you here. What are the origins of Vio North? How did you come up with the idea of doing this? Well, I have an event production background. And I went to this meetup in Toronto, and it was just at a bar, completely unorganized. Just meet here and we'll chat one evening. Was that Vio and Tio? Yeah, it was. Over at the Frog and Peach or whatever the place was on Young Street? So long ago. Yeah, like the Frog and something or whatever. Something and something. And there were people, someone drove up from Buffalo. Someone came from Oshawa, which is about 45 minutes east of here. People drove in from everywhere just to sit and talk to other voice talent. And I had conversations that were so valuable. I thought, well, people are clearly craving something like this. I know how to put on an event. So then one thing led to another. And then Tanya helped me with curating because she's an agent and she has connections to a lot of very credible people. And that kind of, it spiraled from there.  This is the fourth. Then this is going to be the final time you're doing that? Yes, I know. I'm sad to see it go, but it's time. Well, it's something that's going to, it takes over your life for the time that you're doing it. Yeah, it's been my full-time job for the past month and a half. I had, so not no voiceover. Well, like a little job here and there. But yeah, it's quite time consuming, but it's a labor of love. That's great. What was your philosophy behind this type of conference? Because it's a little bit different from some of the others. Yeah, we, the few big things are bringing the community together, meeting other people, learning from credible speakers who are not trying to sell you something. We get, we really try to get speakers who don't normally do conferences, but they're working in the voiceover industry day in, day out. So we just want to bring as much value as we can, bring the community together and just learn. Every aspect of your voiceover business. Now, Toronto's a unique market. I mean, I've, you know, I, you know, lived near here, so I was up here and I, and I got to go to some of the VO and TO things and those were a lot of fun. But the market has really changed because Toronto was really a production hub. So there's a lot of studios and that sort of thing. And I found that people in Toronto were slow to transist to the home studio model. Did you, did you find that too? Well, the pandemic really helped. It did in LA too. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I had a home studio, which actually gave me a leg up before the pandemic because I had like a whisper room booth and I had a full, you know, MKH416 mic and I was set up at home, which gave me a leg up. But well, for online casting and stuff, but there was still a lot of in studio sessions and auditions and everything. But the pandemic really kicked it, kicked it into home studio gear, I guess. So, yeah. So I think nowadays there's a lot less in person. Yeah. Well, George and I were always saying that, you know, for 10 years, we were busy telling people, you know, you really need a home studio. You really should do this. And of course, when the pandemic hit, we were very, very busy. And I'm sure that the same thing happened here with people like, how do I do a home studio instead? Yeah. Yeah. Your business must have skyrocketed. Oh, it did. It was, as we like to say, we were busier than a one-legged guy in an ass-kicking contest. So it was... Yeah. Yeah. It was same here. I had a lot of people content. I mean, my skills are nowhere near yours, but people just saying, help. I don't know what to do. And I'm like, well, like, this is what I did. I don't know. But then I just put them in touch with other people. But yeah, definitely a lot of people trying to figure it out. Well, there's a lot of engineers here in Toronto because there are a lot of post-production houses and the network productions and stuff like that. And there's also a great theater and movie community here, right? Yeah. It's kind of like New York, right? You've got your Broadway. We've got our... I don't even know what you call it. But there's just a lot of different theaters. Yeah. I mean, we're literally looking at the legendary Massey Hall, which is why I love this venue. Lots of windows, and you're looking directly at one of our legendary halls. Right. Yeah. And then the Pantages is right over there, and which I... Everybody saw Phantom of the Opera had. If you lived in Buffalo, I was like, you must come see the Phantom of the Opera at the La Gloria. And then they discover the Winter Garden Theater and this building over here. Beautiful theater. Yeah. And then there's more just east of here, or west of here as well. So, yeah, lots of theater, lots of production. I mean, Toronto and Vancouver as well, but Toronto is definitely the hub in Canada for voiceover and acting and all that jazz. So, what are your plans now that you're not going to be doing this? For plans for VO North or me? For you. Well, still voiceover, but I'm shifting into a bit of television production as well. Yeah. It's amazing. It's shocking how similar event production is to television production. So, yeah, I'm just easing right into it. It's fun, but I'll definitely always do voiceover as well. Great. Well, Dervil, thank you so much for putting on VO North and for having us, and we've been having a great time. Great. Thank you so much for coming. Honestly, we love having you here. Well, we're back here at VO North, and one of my favorite things about Toronto and coming to Toronto is Elire Hennessy, a marvelous coach and just a delight to have around and to work with. Welcome to VO North. Thanks for coming. Dan, everything is awesome when you're part of the team. Come on. This is a phenomenal experience, as always, just to get to chat to you and get to chat to all brilliant members of this community and audiences. You are the reason that we storytell it all. So, for everybody out there, thank you for your commitment to raising the bar in storytelling, and thank you for interviewing those of us who are constantly trying to change the vibration of the planet through storytelling. Because, you know me, I just think that communication, it is the human connection. This is a real planned FYI. Just like you and me, I'm a plant. So, we're here breaking the code and we're telling lies and we're loving each other hard and making the magic happen, which it's all about because I feel like in real person, things change, and we haven't had that opportunity for a while. So, it's really, really exciting to see what's happening when you actually have a human being that you can reach out and touch somebody's hand, make this world a better place. There's fun happening and there's fun happening everywhere, even at your home studios, alone. I know it feels like you're alone. You're not. We're all one energy gang. We are the ones that create the magic, alchemical magic. That's what the storyteller is. That's what you are. That's what is happening right now. And hopefully we can share a little bit of that with one another. Now, what were you teaching here? We were sort of watching the end of your class yesterday. It was going in a number of directions. Well, I teach how to exist in the void, how to color outside the lines, how to find the place where extraordinary happens, and it isn't in institutionalized training or classes. Yes, and I do teach classes, but I don't believe that methodologies are taught to individuals. I believe that they are discovered when you let go of control, when you actually reach outside of yourself and allow the magic in. So there's a kind of a turning yourself inside out and going back to a profound truth that we all understand how to play. We just don't do it because we're thinking so hard in the maturity. You know, our arrogance is that we're good at reading. That's not what this business is at all about. Magic exists in the, I don't know. So the I don't know place is what makes, it titillates, fascinates, and creates awe in the viewer and try to find that place. It ain't easy. It ain't easy to go there. So yes, getting outside of your comfort zone, in other words. Whatever that means to you because you are characters in every genre, commercial narration, promo, telephony, medical narration, animation, anime, dubbing, mocap. It doesn't, you're always a character. You are an entity that is trying to inspire your audiences. How do you step outside of your intellect, which is what we keep trying to use as good readers. If I wanted a reader, I'd go to the library. Acting with our voices, it's a beast unto itself that is like beyond time and space. It has no form. It is this wild, amorphic, allowing, if you will, of spontaneity. And what does spontaneity mean? And how do you teach every single entity to be their own version of spontaneity? It's like, well, that's like saying, I'm going to teach this class and you're all going to be better actors. Well, it doesn't work that way. My whole thing is if I was running a convention, there would be no classes.  Because what I don't think we recognize is that we are. It feels like that sometimes. Well, you know, we're miraculous with all of it, with all of our marginalizations of self. Well, I'm old. Well, I've got a qualified instrument. Well, I'm physically something. Well, I'm this, I'm that.  You're perfect.  I want you. I don't want anybody but you. I don't care. But we don't allow that and we have no self-worth and we don't risk anything to show ourselves what we're capable of. So, you see where the dead thing happens? It's kind of like, what is happening? How do you teach people to play? Just say, okay, tug of war. Let go. What? What? What? And okay, talk back and forth. The other team, go. And then you say, I've got a water pistol. I'm squirting you in the faces. You have coffee. I've got it. Can't see. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I have to set up a restriction just like a game. You can't know what's happening. You cannot know. Cannonball into the pool right now. Go. You don't learn it in the studio. You learn it in life.  Makes you go, okay, go. Okay, that was really wild and hard, but I did it. I don't care if you do it well. I jumped out of an airplane. I peed my pants. I was like, they took a picture. It was on the wing of the plane. I was by myself. They wanted me to buy the picture. I would never, I wanted it burned. It was like, I looked like I don't know what was happening, but it was very, very crazy. And I did this thing and I constantly, when I'm feeling asleep, go, I got to do something that has nothing to do with voice so that I, as a human being, celebrate all the things that I can do. I go, can you slalom ski? Yes, absolutely. I didn't say, well, I said, can you do it?  Are you a circus performer? If you try it, you can say I do it. Right. So in other words, if you can do something that is seemingly hard to do and impossible and you try it and you do it, what else in your life do you think you could accomplish? Bingo, Dan. Like, we can all do everything. People go, well, I have no arms. I can't draw. Well, have you met the mouth drawers and the feet drawers? Like, everything is possible, but we're so locked into an institutionalized idea of how to do it that we forget, oh, you mean, it's not just reading words and talking. No, it's actually not. It's a whole canvas of extraordinary ingredients when we concoct the magic. It's not just the words. It's not just the script that creates the magic. There's incredible feats that this entire entity, and we're all uniquely different, and yet we feel like we have to do it the same as the next guy. You don't. Well, Ellie Ray, it is always a thrill to hang out with you. It's been a long time. And clearly, we haven't talked to each other in a while. We had you on the show a few months ago. Yes, it was a year ago. Well, it was months, like a few months in this timeline. It was, you know, 500 centuries ago. But I just want to thank you both. I just think you guys are so phenomenal what you do, George and Dan, and what you bring to the entire team, to everybody out there by doing these kinds of interviews. It's phenomenal, gang. This is where the magic happens, where we get to communicate with one another, not in the auditions, not in any places. And I just wanted to thank you also for donating to the gift package for the ultimate VO survivor that Getmiked is doing another We're in Season 3, and you have generously donated to gift the winner. We have thousands and thousands of dollars worth of prizes that help those in an industry that, for the most part, can't afford mentally, physically, intellectually, intellectually, how to get themselves going in this industry.  We've got memberships. We've got equipment. We've got studios. We've got everything. And these guys, of course, as well, have so generously gifted us. And I'm forever grateful for that. Thank you. Thank you. Hey, George The Tech here for VOBS at VO North 2022. And I got to sit down here with Mr. Jack Cox, who isn't an actor. He isn't a casting person. He's coming at it from the directing side. Tell us about how you work, who you work with, and where. I work out of Vancouver in children's television, children's television animation. I'm a voice director and a writer, mostly for, you know, boys' action stuff, a lot of aliens and robots and a lot of kids fighting things and explosions and burps and farts and stuff like that. And that's what I do for a living, yeah. What did you do to lead up to that? Where did you start your journey in directing? I started as a script editor doing dialogue, polishes, just punching up jokes and characterization. And then there was, I was just right place, right time, and I got to move into directing because someone else had a bigger project to do. So I just filled in and have been doing it ever since. Will you call it right place, right time, or luck favors the prepared? Luck favors the prepared, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you got to keep an open mind. If you get too focused on your goal, then you kind of miss all the other paths to getting it sometimes. There's two edges to that. Being, I mean, a goal, but being able to go with flow and be adaptable, adaptable is in my path. But tell us also, like, are you doing a lot of this work throughout the pandemic? Did it go to 100% remote? And how much of it is still happening remotely? During the pandemic, a good chunk of it was remote. I directed from home, which at the time was a farm. So that was a nightmare. It was terrible. Why, the smell, the sound, or the internet? It was a rooster that never stopped, like the entire recording. And there was a bear that kept coming up to the front door. It was, yeah, it was absolutely nuts. There was one time I was, yeah, shooting off bear spray and then running back into a session. So that was my pandemic. So that was pretty rough. Thankfully, I'm back in the studio now. All the actors are back in the studio. So we're all together once again. And, but for a while there, it was pretty, it was pretty remote.  Yeah, yeah, whatever.  Yeah, or foobar. Yeah, I was, I was shaking. I've never had a bear in session. So you weren't you were you on a couple panels during the unorth and what, what did you guys talk about? We talked about anime or dubbing series, like long reign, not like long term animation series that are such a backbone to voiceover in Vancouver for staying, for keeping work. Like it's the it's the bread and butter. Bread and butter. Yeah, it's the that sort of consistency gives you freedom to to do other stuff or I'll just know that your rent's being made. So we talked about that and also sat in with some really cool Toronto people here that I'd never met before like Susan and Kim and Roseanne and got to talk about casting with them. And that was really cool. It's been really great to be here. Well, I was lucky enough to sit in on the animation and video game and listen to those reads. A lot of talent was here for sure. Anybody like stand out and you're like, yeah, there were a couple actually that I think I would keep an eye on. I think, yeah. They don't name any names. I'm just saying. They don't name any names. No, no. But just anyone who had the keenness and the enthusiasm to just get up in front of like four directors on a stage, not just one casting director but four directors on a stage. In front of their peers. In front of their peers. That takes them like guts. I don't know. I don't think I do it. So so that was cool. Well, it was cool. It was neat to be there and witness it and listen in.  Thanks for sitting down with us. All right. And we're here with our good friend, Brad Newman. What were you discussing? What was your topic here at VO North? So it's coming up at 2.30. And it's talking about websites. And one of the biggest questions that people typically have is actually about their email and how they can keep it out of people's spam folders, which sounds really simple, but it's rather complicated. Why is it so complicated? There's so many people that send so many spam and the algorithms that use to, from companies like Google to detect that, they keep very secret. They're constantly changing all of those things, but and that makes it complicated. However, your mail can use three things that can be set up properly and that usually fixes the problem. But nobody knows about these things except Brad Newman and various other webmasters. That's right. And most hosts don't set it up for you. But if you think about, you have keys to get in your house, there are keys to authenticate your mail. And the keys are very simple. They sound confusing, but they're an SPF, a DMARC, and a DKIM. We seem to love abbreviations and that makes things confusing. But there's simple tests you can run to find out which one's missing. And then you can just tell your host, this is missing, I need it fixed. And then they'll fix it. So it can be as easy as just checking and making a phone call and then parroting a little small abbreviation that you really don't even need to know what it actually stands for. But you have to understand, because it's like, why is this going into spam? Or why, you know, I've sent this email several times and this person, you always wonder, why is it that my email didn't go through? I mean, we can talk to the moon, but we can't seem to get an email across town. Because no one, I mean, no one really just does their job a lot of times and little things get missed. That's one of the little things, but it's very, very important to your business. It's probably your primary form of communication. And so you need to just check that. And if you don't know how to check that, call your host and just ask them, are those three things in place? Or call me, I'll fix it. Why does companies like Google, who apparently run the world these days, why do they change these parameters all the time? I've noticed this and our mutual friend Joe Davis is constantly fixing these things. And I'm sure you are too. You know, and they do it without notice. Why do they do that? Because the spammers are constantly changing their methodology and what they do. And so you have to keep either ahead of that curve or you have to keep chasing that curve and making a correction to try to keep what we're relying on email usable and functional. So it's kind of this cat and mouse game. I mean, Google is constantly changing things. And I find that like, why am I suddenly, why am I suddenly using this platform as opposed to the other one? And why didn't they warn me? They may send you an email like, three months, we're going to be doing this and they expect you to remember that. Google tends to take the idea and throw it against the wall to see if it sticks. And that constantly gets taken away or changed and modified. But ultimately a lot of their changes are just like any company. They're derived to happen to grow or increase revenue. And sometimes that can impact the little guy. Us, let's shift the voiceover for a little bit. What sort of services are you offering for the voiceover community? Biggest thing we're known for is upper level hosting. So basically you already have a website or you should have a website and your demos are on it. And you don't have to know or worry about any of those problems that we just talked about. Even the ones with Google, because we will do the check, we will make sure it's done and we will fix it for you. And that's it. You can focus on what you're doing, which is reading the script. So hosting is our biggest thing. It's upperlevelhosting.com. Yeah, hosting is really important as we know. Where your demos are, it's where your brand is, it's how you're going to be sending your communications. It's, in my opinion, one of the most important aspects of your business beyond having the skill, the talent, the gear and the demo. Because you need those things to do the job, but you've got to have that website and that email to mark it to get the jobs. Let me throw you a curveball. Have you tried the new Wovo demo player? I have checked it out and so far I like what I see. I think they did a really solid job. Well they worked on it for about a year, so it should be working. And we're offering that at World Voices. For members, all members can get that. So that's a really cool thing to have. And you remind me that I need to make sure my membership is renewed or auto renewed, because I honestly don't remember. Well I see your name on the list. All right, good, good. You're probably still in there. Then I like auto renewals. That's a good thing. Right, thanks for being with us. My pleasure, man. Thanks for all you do. Appreciate you guys. Well so far this has been great, but we're going to take a break right now. We'll be right back here on Voice Over Body Shop. Inflated prices, not at voiceoveressentials.com. Despite the nationwide inflation rate of over 8%, Voice Over Essentials refuses to raise prices. In fact, they refuse to even say the I word. They're inventory is large on all their products and they purchase them before the current economic conditions. It's simply wrong to increase profit as many retailers are doing right now. So Harlan and company promised not to raise their prices during difficult times for everyone. They'll stay the course. Steady and sure. Flat and firm. Solid and steadfast. Okay, enough. You get the point. 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I've met for the first time in somebody I know very well, Kim Handysides, and her daughter. It's Lisa Sulietanu. Well done, well done. Thank you. I study my notes. You're here at VO North. What were some of the sessions that you were presenting and what have you been talking about? E-learning and explainers was yesterday, and that was amazing. I was talking about the trends in the industry, where to find the work, but also just hopefully some really good coaching tips to be able to help people access more of the work, because it's just like exploded. I mean, there's a lot out there. And of course, there's the threat of AI, which was something that I had a panel on yesterday, which I found fascinating. Do you think that's going to be an issue in the future? I think that it's probably going to take out the fivers. It's going to... I've had a lot of clients who've actually tried an AI and then have come to me and said, it didn't work. Can you please do it for us as a human? That's good to hear. Yeah, yeah. I think what... Personally, I think what's going to be happening is that they're going to... It's going to help them realize the value of us, because we are the human connection in e-learning, right? There's so much animation or slides or whatever. And the one thing that actually sinks it into the person's brain is the human voice. So an AI can't do that. Now, we've been... I've been preaching the same thing, saying that a computer can't emulate the thousands of choices that a piece of copy is going to present to somebody and they can create some patterns and stuff. Now, Lisa, what are you doing with your mom here and what's your background in voiceover, aside from your mom? So I've had the privilege of starting my career very young. I've been doing voiceover since I was seven years old. And I just fell in love from the moment that I was first brought into studio. And so I've built my career doing voiceover. I do a lot of corporate narration, any type of narration really, and commercials, some video games as well. And recently, over the past couple of years, been doing some coaching with... Three years, you're right. Time flies. Yeah, just been doing some coaching with Kim. And we love the group coaching dynamic that we've been able to achieve with the voiceover study workshop that we've done. And we just want to keep building that, yeah. Have you found joy coaching as much as voice acting? And why? As much, it's different. Definitely as much. And I love to just share my passion and share my knowledge. And you get to meet so many talented people and to be able to give them advice that... And watch their progression and their growth and to be a part of that is just incredibly fulfilling. Yeah. We've had a few people at VO North here who have gone through our class, our workshop, and Rachel, for example. Rachel Gilbert said, I'm now full-time, thanks to you guys. And I was like, yay. And another one, Hadi Hajjar, who's now got an agent and he's booking national commercials and he's doing really well too. So yeah, it's very rewarding. Now, what's the name of your coaching outfit? It's the voiceover study. Yes. And you can access it on my website, kimhandysidesvoiceover.com or on Lisa. Lisa Sulitianou.com. Yeah. And it's a six-week workshop over 12 hours, over six weeks with a maximum of 12 people. And it's very intense. We look at commercials, e-learning, corporate narration explainers, all the adjustments for that, and documentaries, and audio books too, and character work. Just about everything that's in there. Now, we've been observing you two all weekend. You're obviously a very tight mother-daughter pair, aren't you? Yeah, we're close. Yeah. What's it like working with your daughter on most times?  She's extremely talented and very bright. And what I love about working with you is that she brings a fresh blood, a fresh set of eyes. She's got her finger on the pulse of what's happening in the current world. I mean, I do too, but she's kind of in it, you know? And I really love having that perspective to help me grow as a coach, but also to see what it does to the people who come to our class. And what's it like working with your mom? Incredible. I really like she's such an amazing resource, such an amazing person, but then obviously also such an amazing resource. And I'm just, it's awesome to, we go out for business lunches and we'll talk about, we'll catch up on life and then we'll close that chapter and move on to the business chapter and it's so nice to be able to do both. Good luck in the future. Thanks for joining us today and for the stuff that you've been offering here at VioNorth. And it's just great to see you both. And I can't wait till we see you again, hopefully in Orlando. Yes, sounds great. Love it. All right, we're here back at VioNorth with our dear friend and fellow Wackadoodle engineer guy. And comrade. Friendly competition. Uncle Roy Yolkelstin and... Uncle Stein. Yeah. Right. Is it, is it Froedrick? Something like that. Froedrick Frankenstein, yes. Yeah, it's Frankenstein. Miss the Frankenstone. Yes, that's it. That's it. Frankenstone. So you're running all of the audio production for a show like this, which you do for almost all the conferences now. What does it involve to do this kind of stuff? And does it involve sleep or eating or any of those things? It involves lack of sleep, typically four hours. So that's about all I get. By the time I, well I have to do my Facebook shtick, you know, like what day is today and all that stuff. But I know to the right is louder. That's important to know. We're doing very little, just even the microphones out.  The more wireless mics the merrier, because then you don't have to tape down wires. However, wireless mics could drift, could be too far away from the receiver. Battery changes, which I think we're sort of low on batteries now. And you need enough tech support help. Thank God George and Dan were here, because they kind of, like I said it up, it was all set to go. I said, George, just sit here for a minute, make sure things are even. Then they didn't want to leave. I couldn't leave because once I started riding the gain on the mic for the animation thing, and they were kind of all over the map, then I was married to it. I couldn't leave. I had to keep my hand on the fader. Yeah, so we're just trying to keep it even.  But auto mix puts us out of business, then we don't have to sit there. So it's sort of the AI of audio mixing, you know. How much gear did you bring with you? I brought too much because in the original plan with Long and McQuade, they were going to give me three, four little tiny two input mixers. And I said, well, I got a panel of four plus a moderator. That doesn't really I could make it, you know. So they upped me to answer your real question. So I brought a Mackey 14.02 and an old school sure mixer. What is somebody P what? P what? I forget what model it was. Forget two, but it looks classic. Really, you really brought one of those. Isn't it noisy? I said, well, it'll do the job. This isn't broadcast. It'll do the job. And PS, I didn't use it anyway. So I brought way too much gear. They are using my 416 in the source elements booth. Bear cave booth and too much stuff. I brought too many pairs of headphones. Too much. We like to be overly prepared. Then when George comes to me and says, do you have a stereo mini to? I said, yeah, as a matter of fact, I do. Well, he had a orange cable and I had he had it. We so you have to over pack. So you're because you can't where are we going to go? You know, it's too far to there's no more radio shacks. Damn it. Although you did have something that still said Radio Shack on it. So he has the same purple cable. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. We had those at the United Nations. Those purple. I don't know if I swiped those from the United Nations or if I actually bought some from Radio Shack. You heard that first here. Don't tell anybody. It's a secret. It's a UN secret from UN radio. What's really the difference between producing recorded audio for voiceover and doing live sound? What are some of the differences you have to think about? You have to for the live sound, you kind of have to really ride gain on the nuances to pick up. The women were pretty well, you know, they were speaking here. And then the men were, I don't know why every one, the men were like soft spoken and I or vice versa. You know, the woman is speaking softly and the guy grabbed the mic. So when they're sharing a mic, you have to be kind of be on your game and just ride gain a lot. And we don't care about noise floor. We don't care about compression, noise gates. You know, we don't care about any processing. This is live. It is what it is. So if it was streaming out live, it would be absolutely fine. And nobody cares if you can hear it. And these, most of these rooms are kind of small anyway. So you can hear them talking from the stage. One of the rooms we had to put fans in because the air conditioning was down. Okay, we needed to hear them over the sound of the fan. And the mics now are much better than they were back in the day. They're more linear. The speakers are more linear. Feedback is less of an issue than it was before. The acoustics in these crappy rooms, so I said to George, we got to make like a big tri-booth and put it in these rooms and we'll all huddle inside the wigwam. And you know... Yurt, the yurt edition. Yeah, there we go. We'll have a yurt edition. Oh yurt, the yurt edition tri-booth. Everybody's to sit on the floor with their legs crossed, though. Oh, that's cool. There's a fire in the middle. No, I'm just kidding. But we should have this fire from over here, the fire. We should do that. Right. And anybody else who's listening, if this airs before October 8th and 9th, come on over to my house for two days of nonstop live music and eating. To nonstop, that's the word, yeah. Nonstop live music and eating. Whenever it used to come over here, he immediately said, you got to your plugs for me? It's like you're too sensitive, you know. We try to... What do your neighbors think about that, where you just tell them, go away this weekend? Or just walking around the block and an older couple was selling some furniture and they said, hey, are you gonna have that party this year? We love that music.  And the other one, they say, oh, we're gonna be out of town, don't worry about it. No, they're fine. People come by from down the block. Like one neighbor, I saw him eating a hot dog. I said, you could say hello first, maybe, or would it be okay if I had some? Like he's not on the list. You're just my down-the-block neighbor. And you are? He thought it was a block party. He was just crashing, he was crashing. I asked the cops, do I need a permit for this? They said, why, is it a block party? I said, no, but 150 people are gonna be there. They said, nah, you're good. I love Jersey. Yeah. So that's the Uncle Roy annual V.O. BBQ. That's right, V.O. BBQ 17, 17th annual. So go on Facebook and search Uncle Roy's 17th annual. And while you're there, there's a link for you to click to buy an Antland Productions t-shirt. Just like this. Mine's waiting at home. Different 5e, you bought the long sleeve. I think I got that one. That was the one I wanted to get. Oh, okay, yeah. Well, I didn't see who bought what, but somebody bought the long sleeve fluorescent tie dye. That's a little different.  And that's a fundraiser as well. That's a fundraiser for no kid hungry. And so no kid should be hungry. So why not? And it's fun to wear one. Like I had the tie dye one that I could take a picture of myself in front of the Arc de Triomphe and other places that I met. Hey, Uncle Roy, I'm here. My son has my logo tattooed on his arm. And I said, what the hell is that? Free advertising, dad. He's a little too tattoo-centric over there. Yeah.  It's a nutty time. We have the best time. We share, and we share industry secrets. Yeah, that's right. Like this microphone is a 416 wannabe. Knock off. And probably like half the price. How much was this? How much? A four? Like $2.50? Hide the name, though. Yeah, make sure. Yeah, the name is a little embarrassing, but especially if it has a 2020 behind it. Then it's really bad. No, for $250 or $300 versus $1,000? Yeah, it's clearly wanting to be a 416. It feels like one. It's made of brass. They couldn't use the same design on the sides, because that's probably patented. It would get sued. I like the extra low-end, and I don't have to add it. You think it's a little too much. Oh, hi-fi. Yeah. The disco smile. Yeah, just base treble. That sort of thing. But it sounds clean. It's clean. Be it a loudness button. Right? Loudness would make the base and treble crank up. Yeah. Hey, man. Always a pleasure. Yes, sir. See you soon. Yes, sir. Always fun. All right. Bye, VLBS. Well, this has been very entertaining and very enlightening, and we want to thank everybody here. But first, in order to wrap things up, we got to finish with our second break, so we'll be right back. This is the Latin Lover narrator from Jane the Virgin, Anthony Mendes, and you're enjoying Dan and George on the VoiceOver Body Shop. Scams and other pitfalls. VoiceOver Extra has hundreds of articles, free resources, and training that will save you time and help you succeed. Learn from the most respected talents, coaches, and industry insiders when you join the online sessions, bringing you the most current information on topics like audio books, auditioning, home studio setup and equipment, marketing, performance techniques, and much more. It's time to hit your one-stop daily resource for VoiceOver's success. 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No. But it was really, really fun meeting all these people and we really appreciate Dervla, trainer and Tonya Buchanan for putting this together for us and we've had a great time. But we do need to thank a lot of people besides them. I mean, besides from our guests today, we need to thank our donors like 949 Designs, Jonathan Grant, Casey Clack, Christopher Epperson, Sarah Borges, Phillip Sapir, Thomas Pinto, Shelley Avelino, Shelley's here somewhere. Oh, we can thank her personally. Brian Page, Patty Gibbons, Rob Rader, Greg Thomas, Dr. Voice, Ant-Land Production, Uncle Roy, who was with us. Shauna Pentington-Baird, Martha Kahn, Don Griffith, Trey Mosley, Diana Birdsong, and Sandram Manwellers. All right. You can join our mailing list too and make sure that you know what's coming up next on VoiceOver Body Shop. It's on our home page, VOBS.tv. It says, you know, join our list or something like that. I'd like to take another look at it one of these days. Also, we need to thank our amazing sponsors with whom this show wouldn't be possible like Harlan Hogan's VoiceOver Essentials, VoiceOver Extra, Source Elements, VioHeroes.com, VoiceHactorWebsites.com, JMCDemons, and WorldVoices.org. Alrighty, of course. Well, Jeff Holman wasn't here. We didn't need anybody's questions. We had our own questions. And Sumer Lino, our director. We gave her the weekend off.  But we do have to thank Lee Pinney for just being Lee Pinney. Well, that's going to do it for us here in Toronto, or as they say in Toronto. Toronto. This is a great business, folks. We're here to help you out with your home studios and bringing you the best people in the business to tell you what it's really all about. But when it comes to your audio, there's a lot you can do to make it work. But if it sounds good, it is good. Don't mess with it. Right. Don't fuss with it. I'm Dan Leonard. And I'm George Whitton. And this is VoiceOver. Body Shop, or V-O-B-S.