ust there's a lot of stuff feeding into I think this moment is one of the biggest obviously for the season Uh that that rely on everything else we've known the fact that he calls her baby girl Obviously the last time we heard him say that was with sara as she was dying This is like a crystallization of Everything that ellie means to him and what their relationship is and and how important that is Considering everything else that's happened, right? Like all these different people that have come in and out of joe's life and all the actions He's had to take all the humanity that's been stripped away from him. She's a big reason He can have access to things that he thought were lost He thought like a lot of this was over and of course it's bringing him back to a very very vulnerable place That's what uh, he talks about with tommy In both the game and the show It's what we saw playing out with henry and sam even though of course how this story ended You know frank and bill having gone the whole way in terms of taking care of each other relying on each other and This story's ending together test was another failed sort of thread in joe's life And this this we were inches away from joe losing her all over again right after she had You know put everything on the line to save him And so he catches her in this turmoil where she's had to shred someone who's been that much of a threat to her Something that he would have wanted to prevent and protect her from so yeah It's honestly it's hard to summarize everything that's happening. Uh in these moments We were talking about earlier like uh, if we'd had everything longer in this show up to this point I think this probably would have hit harder But to be honest with you, I think they've they did everything they needed to do in this episode I can't really fault them that hard Outside of a couple of tweaks I may have made like in terms of just some stretches here and there this episode by comparison if episode seven was thin this episode is very dense Yeah, we've seen it'll dense with information about the characters That's like no scene that is superfluous in this episode like every single scene is essential It was one episode to set up an entire enemy faction and an enemy leader And then yeah, and then to have that all come to a conclusion that feeds into the story of these Of these characters about main duo Yeah, it was all very tight and then when we got to the part with the restaurant I felt like we're moving really quickly here, but then I checked the runtime and I'm like, oh no We're about like 45 minutes in here. I guess this is this pacing works for this episode I think there would be more time at the end, but yeah They skipped like combat to just go straight to the like david conclusion essentially because in the game there's a Like a decently large stretch of ellie gameplay, but I mean, yeah, that's this was hard to it's hard to justify that You know really like in terms of her killing like 15 people before encountering david What's clearly been cut and replaced is a lot of gameplay for both joel and ellie of killing people And it's good. It's definitely get the point joel is still forced to be reckoned with even when he's in a bit of a Incapacitated state. Yeah, I was very happy with how they adapted that scene as well. Yeah The game does a thing where it makes it feel a lot longer where you like it Kind of shows you ellie side of it and it plays it all the way up to like the restaurant bit And then it plays you as it puts you as joel, but then it kind of rewinds time a bit Yeah, and it shows you like it's quite an elongated sequence of him going into the town and then Maneuvering through the town to eventually get to the restaurant and then it catches up with where you saw Ellie in the restaurant felt quick to me this episode But I can't like you were saying malar. I can't fault it for like it accomplished everything that it needed to And it was quite tightly bound the whole thing from joel's pov, right? Like he was sure he was dead He knows that she took care of him and then he finds out that she's been taken And what does he see when he like first gets there is a bunch of bodies hanging there Yeah, like and then he finds who a burning building and she's covered in blood It's just yeah, it's really solid stuff for the characters Not a word. I mean, obviously they do speak to each other, but they don't you know, like they're both It's just they're both there for each other and so they're together again, and they can leave this place and move forward One of the comments that we talked about um earlier was in regards to the presence of the infected And there were no How interesting is that like I don't need them, but I like them Like they're a unique element that's not on anything else And it would be really nice to see that element in this show because as much as like the joel and le stuff is really good It would be nice to have the unique parts of the last of us kind of being more present So what happens in the game when she meets up with uh, David at first is that they sit in there talking and then they hear an infected practically just runs into the room It's just like wow and then david shoots it with his pistol and she's like what the fuck you had a gun the whole time And he's like yeah, I did like because you know and just and then they defend the area Together for about 10 minutes or so from a horde of just a horde of infected just arrive You know, what's funny is this show has the opportunity to you know She shoots the deer and then it you know pans off to the side and it shows an infected there It's been alerted and then through the the network It's attached to it brings several and that david and ellie have to defend themselves from let's say six Something like that we could have that scene but at the same time, you know, I just want to be honest It's like we didn't lose anything in terms of character By not having that it was just something that may have been fun because like uh, She just never trusts david from the get-go. She seems to and is similar in the game I think ellie just just something something doesn't feel right and I guess the audience would have a similar experience with this man He's just and uh, you know, I think we can do without it. It's not a big deal I mean definitely the the game was trying to do a thing where it's like, oh, maybe david isn't such a bad guy Oh, maybe david can help me and joel like from ellie's perspective and then it's like, oh David followed us back followed my footprints. Now.  Uh, Troy Baker was playing to be honest with you The little we got of him seemed like a very conflicted man who's had to do a lot of horrible things He kept doing them and it led to his destruction with the burning building and everything sort of being their meeting place that people should have come To investigate and joel wouldn't be able to just walk away slowly I think it's a close one that the fire would have alerted people right around the time. They're probably leaving Yeah, I don't see any potential issue, but I think if you outside as well It seems there's a bit of a a bit of a smoke screen not a literal smoke You know metaphorically speaking with the snow and the the cold that might take a little longer for people to notice the fire Yeah, I think I would have liked a little bit like a tiny bit at least of like joel Having to make his way through a few like hostile people in the village If I could be honest with you on to the restaurant If this episode could have been two hours long and we just every conversation's extended and we have a couple more Interactions and and we have the infected. I know for a fact that I'd enjoy it. I'd be like, yeah Let's do it. Yeah. So I wouldn't I wouldn't be uh against more episodes. Yeah, if it meant I was just about to say Yeah, I think that's it that um the biggest problem the show Has is that it didn't have enough time to breathe You're adapting a pretty lengthy game the game is fairly long So adapting it into a season of television. It's like, yeah, you might end up uh having to shave some stuff Well, I mean they have they've definitely had to shave things down like all of the core critical moments are there for sure And like the broad sections of the game are there, but there's definitely, you know, things that are lost in the interim Yeah, the town did feel a bit empty in this episode Contrasting with the beginning of the episode where it did establish a sense of community more so than we had the two Significant scenes of the community in that in that place, but obviously they'd gathered there I guess they were in their respective houses or they're out looking for deer potentially I don't really know but I think I gotta it does feel like maybe it would have been neat to have had one or two Sort of onlookers being like, oh god, what the fuck is it? Oh, jeez just to make it feel like it's more Community tighten it See it came across to me that that's the point of this guy is that he's kept everyone very close and very dependent on him Yeah, but uh very solid. I think yeah, I really I would I like I like five more. I think I prefer five, but I think this is number two Five is such a complete package. I wouldn't even criticize it pacing wise this one This it could have maybe used a bit more but Still really are really critical and important character work for particularly ellie. Yes I would say that it it really goes to show how Excellent it feels in a show to have people at real places Proper snow everywhere. They're out in the cold everything. It's it's very real. The show is extremely They really they really are winning some awards for production like if the production should be That should be getting some kind of award at the Emmys. Yeah, they got great locations.   That's from that's one of them. They're fakey wood hard to get a real tree these days Okay.  I don't let you do that no more No, I should do that that tree is not signed a waiver. Ain't it crazy though? Everything rides on next episode Yeah, one more nine the finale is kind of make or break one more and it's not going to be a two-parter It's going to be the episode. So is it going to be same link as the rest or as far as I know It's your standards. This has been like 40 to 50 minutes except for the premiere, right, of course Yeah, and it's possible to tell the rest of the story so to speak in that amount of time just, um Every line every action it will be scrutinized and will nightmares be brought to life Who knows are you concerned that they might be pressed for time with this next episode? You're quite familiar with the ending of the last was one rex. It came up so much when we talked about last was two Yeah, yeah, it's the concert of uh, just how evil will they make joe's decision because everyone thinks that they're gonna make In the bad guy Well, it's just the the differences the last of us Originally, there's no way that they were writing that with like clear ideas of what the sequel was going to be because the sequel's like Seven years removed and of course the recontextualization of a lot of you know the changes that were made into To kind of like change it into the story that they needed it to be but they couldn't do it This time around two already exists and they're making it for this show and they probably knew they were getting a second season So it's it's it's like it's surely going to be different from the game Like surely well, I think they didn't know they were going to get a second season until after season one was in the can Yeah, but you can edit season one To end and also set up season two. Sure. So that's in terms of rewriting it. Yeah, even if they didn't get their second one It's like, whoa, you could plant the seeds Uh in a way that the first game simply doesn't yeah, what what I don't want to see Is that the fireflies follow through on their deal that they're really friendly that the science shows that it's an absolute guarantee that Ellie understands that and that she agrees and that uh She finds that's gonna kill her and that she's on board with that in in exchange for something that the fireflies have already shown They can absolutely disseminate to the world which would be absurd, you know I mean just knocking out all of the arguments and then being like all right bye Joel and then he goes You know what?  Sir We're all very nice friendly people here. You wouldn't kill us, would you could you imagine if the uh If we actually had a cold open and it was him with the zebra could you Christ This is what I mean like it'll depend on who writes it. I mean our weakest episode was neil alone Well, I'm hoping that they can go through a craig masin filter and he can be like, oh no No, we wouldn't do it that way. We wouldn't just we wouldn't just show him saving a zebra and then be like look how nice This man is Yeah, it'll be like a whole it'll be like a herd of puppies not to say of course the right has been perfect It's just that yeah, there's just so many mistakes that can be evaded and uh, I just I don't know what's gonna happen All bets are off genuinely. I don't know what they're gonna do exactly Because remember neil was a big part of this production. And so he knows yes He knew when making this when he was dealing with it. He knew on set. He was like, all right here comes the seed Hopefully hopefully drag was there going to rub in his hands together like No, no, they hated it.  Neil asked to me.   But I have some notes On that he's like, we're gonna have to change it when we adapted for tv. You know that he's like, yeah I'm just wondering it because there was that line when Dave was like, oh, you're violent The impression I get is that is a line that they're specifically trying to set up like To that's what I get from that line Is it trying to say, you know, ellie is capable of of uh, of causing great harm potentially That that's they're trying to set that up as a seed So I feel like it's safe to assume that if we are getting the last of us too in season two Which we are it's still going to be like the core It's just it's going to be the same broad story So it's a matter of what changes are you going to make to that story?  You can change it so that she's unconscious saved and then conscious Is like, you know, you could just do it like that, but no, but why go to that effort? You know like why put that in there instead of just leaving it out So it makes me think like surely she'll be unconscious and then I was like Surely the fireflies will welch on the deal and boot Joel out Are they really going to change that and if you have those two in there we're golden I think did they set up in the show the fact that she can't swim? Yes, I can't remember that I will play the clip now. I don't know how to swim. Seriously We can we have pools in the fusee?  Yeah, that's an important setup for one of my favorite beats and at the end of this story like in the game where Joel falls under the bus and it's like, oh my god, we're right at the end And it's like Joel was falling into this trap where it's like, oh god It could all end here very grimly and it's really scary with all the like water flowing into the bus And he's like pinned at the end of it.  I imagine we'll see Ali reacting to giraffes. We got to do that, right? Yeah, I think they will do that for the giraffe for sure. I hope they don't look bad I hope so too. Unless they spring for real giraffes do it.  Yeah I'm a giraffe. I'm just here going on my adventure through the city.  Oh my goodness. This is a foul mouth giraffe Down here and say that's my face I don't mess with that guy who's ate my zebra friend over there and it's a zebra sock Please Imagine there's a scene in the next episode where it's like it's like everyone's shaking hands and introducing themselves and stuff And it's like just five flying. My lean is there and it's like then this girl walks up and shakes Joel's hand.   Just a little bit. Yeah Oh man, what are they gonna do? I'm so curious Is the question Imagine it was adapted one to one. John. You'll finally have to have the conversation with us about In the first episode like everyone will turn on the show instantly Yeah, it'll literally repeat the apocalypse for this ip. Why would you do that? I would imagine that there are some guys that had to be like look guys creative freedom. Yes. Yes, but But let me make a counter-argument to creative freedom Let's call this creative freedom asterisk Like guys spider-man got a war. They all saw better than it goes to sushi better than your game. All right We saw the numbers and we just have some notes. All right. I'd like to show you some comments from fans All this note says is no Oh, what are they gonna do in the finale fast? I hope that's it everything rides on it. I don't know I hope it's good, but I don't know what it looks like. I I legitimately don't know what to expect I have no clue until that folks Yeah, thanks for watching that was episode eight of the last of his tv show one left to go Goodbye everybody. See you next Bye everyone. See you next week What'd you bring me? We're finally here Yeah We've made it to the end of the season. Yes the long way it long feared Yeah, kind of the the subject of a lot of speculation finale of the last of us comment showcase usually relates to the previous episodes We'll do that and then we'll talk a little bit about our fears for this episode probably and what I'm expecting This is the what we could be lucky enough to get or very unlucky enough to get Yeah It's the final one It's really funny too because this is it. We're going over to the memes after this like in terms of maddo and gotham knights Just like yep. Goodbye. Good story back to just meme shows Shows going to sit back and relax and make fun of helmet man and Good old helmet man Hey ifap a doctor here. Oh, cool a fellow Usually Usually pedicillin is an Intermuscular injection mostly in the butt because there's a lot of muscle there But to be honest as long as it gets in the System it should work, but injecting it directly into the wound doesn't really help at all Hope this helps love you guys stuff. By the way, keep it up. Yeah, you bet I remember seeing the oh, yes Like first of all penicillin not Provenously and I was like, oh, okay. So it's that's probably why they had to do it that way in the show But I also read in the article just like this says not sure of the viability of putting it directly in the wound Depends on how deep it was and I because it looked like it was kind of over the the ribs a bit and there's Muscle in between the ribs and stuff. So I mean she'd stuck it in there I I assume it would work as long as it gets into the system It should work through muscular injection. My guess would be it doesn't matter where you put it It just gets in the system regardless like putting it in the wound doesn't make a difference That's kind of my reading. So she has to hit a muscle is the point. That seems to be the point. Okay. Yeah My specialty is plagues. Okay, not muscles David is keeping the non-human meat for himself and is also smirking at the girl hannah as she eats her father unknowingly This version of david is legit evil under the mask. It is great Well, uh, he oh, yeah, he's uh, he's horrible. They both are though I was gonna say they both It's just that we we don't get to see what david looks like In his group like operating as it does. Well, yeah, and you don't see game david feed anyone their father So because that's an interesting influence. I didn't think about that at all That would be assumedly true right because they he was cycled in I think there's a line at the beginning the observary says oh, we can't bury him because the ground's too cold and hard Like we'll have to wait. It's like, uh-huh.   And mrs. Tenomin chili. Oh my god On my first watch, I didn't really appreciate how good a david's actor was but man He does an excellent job with his voice and expressions. Well done to him. He was fantastic I think he uh, he was very good. He struck quite a quite an impression on that Opening the second scene with him and ellie just chatting when the camera really Tightened up on him and you're just looking at it. It was like, uh, this doesn't feel right You you seem off by lad Um, but yeah, it's very good at nailing the bad vibes And yeah, I felt like um, they nailed everything that's important about david's with him the creepy boy So david and his cult have resorted to cannibalism because they can't find wild game But ellie who is four miles away finds a rabbit and deer within five minutes of going on her first hunt lull, okay It's the last of us two levels of worldbuilding These people do well because we like them those people do bad because we don't like them It's a big community lots to feed and they were running low on their stockpile of canned food The deer and rabbit would help but wasn't like the forest was shown teeming with them So who knows if they'd get lucky again david did also explain how he had to roam place to place before due to raiders He probably had to resort to it before convinced his more trusted guys Of the viability and now that one of his guys died figured he might as well not waste usable meat David is shown to have a weird mindset because of the outbreak that comment addresses the First thought I had when I read the the original one, which was there's a lot more people There's like 30 of them It's not necessarily a matter of not finding deer It's can you find enough meat to feed a whole town full of people and they do mention like they've been going for some time I'm not going to say how long because I don't actually know I think it may have been mentioned for potentially how long but how long does a deer feed like 30 people I would imagine that either the rations like what each person gets is minimal or it doesn't get very far Meanwhile, um, ali and joe probably could have lasted on one deer for for a little while You guys going to the internet the average ohio white tailed deer yields 52.2 pounds of venison and they do mention they had venison They had they'd have forms of meat and they mix in human with it to beef it up Well, that's a bad news about well I'm pretty sure that the guy if you're referring to the dude who walked in and said it's venison that pretty sure he was No, not that guy. I'm talking about the intro where he says how much do we have left venison? Yeah, grab it maybe a week to the best and also within five minutes of going on a first hunt We have no idea how long she was out there. That's also true. Actually. Yeah, but um I just I don't get it the fact is they are finding game But they're not they're not able to hunt enough And then the whole like these people do well because we like them these people do bad because we don't like them I don't even know what that means because you could make characters that I could respect that have resulted to cannibalism Um, it's possible. It's gonna be real tough But there are stories where that is basically the only thing you can do to stay alive And it doesn't necessarily involve killing your own team It's just making taking advantage of if anyone dies depending on how you spread out the servings a deer will go a long way But yeah, when you got 30 people and especially because there was that part where she got this uh, Can slid and they said there's only like five left or something Only five more left When you can't add things to the meat you're gonna have to have more meat to compensate So and you know, it's not that they all went evil It's that uh, David's the one that's pushing them and he himself has got a hell of a lot more Wrong with him beyond just cannibalism as much as his role was small. Troy Baker killed it You can see the uneasiness in his eyes and the hesitation he has when dealing with David He is clearly his own person. He displays the character very well. I felt uh, he did an excellent job Yeah, just coming across the guy who's got many years of uh, weight on him a lot of pain on him basically He looks really sad. He looks really sad all the time, uh, and it's sold through the performance It feels cool when voice actors get uh live action roles and do well with them Well, yeah, I was just gonna say like he clearly demonstrated his capacity for emotional control doing the voice in the game So it doesn't surprise me that he well voice and performance as well Uh for motion capture. Oh mo cap right, of course. Yeah I found it super bizarre that the rest of the residents just kind of disappear after ellie breaks free and no one bothers to Help david out or even assist that being said I still found the episode incredibly enjoyable But I'm nervously anticipating episode nine's potential changes I feel this episode suffers from being a video game adaptation and the game Joel has to face a lot of enemies to arrive where ellie is Here he just shows up in the middle of this town with no obstacles The fact that no member of the community is around to notice him and ellie hugging in the middle of the street Was kind of meh and the fact that no one notices the building is uh being on fire dot dot dot Kind of hard to believe i'm in love with the acting though This one's interesting because we did kind of talk about it Apparently this town isn't in like this this building isn't in the center of town And there is a I don't know if I can call it a minor blizzard happening and this all happens pretty fast And so it's like so with those variables you can Wipe out at least a few of the onlookers that may turn up But I am in the camp probably be inside anyway trying to keep warm if you're not doing anything Then you might just be sitting around inside hanging out and the building did burn from the inside out Which might take a while. Oh, and I don't think anyone should have seen ellie and uh him hugging They were on the out out at the end of the building away from the town I think the more relevant point would be that it seems like a bit of a missed opportunity to not have Some sort of reaction from a few residents in the town because wouldn't it be interesting if some people saw it and turn Their back on it and left because they knew that david was there and I don't know about that because the fire is Is a big danger to everybody Actually, I guess more so that at the very least getting the reactions of the town could be interesting I'm trying to think of how I might try and implement it It's certainly getting reactions people looking out and being like, oh no that sort of thing and and you know Like oh shit, what do we do with panicking? But maybe one or two guys heading in with guns that joel manages to see ahead Avoid in terms of them seeing him and then he hits on the back of the head with the pipes style stuff Maybe yeah, I think I think you could do that. I think that would work so I think The impression I get in terms of the feeling of bizarreness is that there is a David has a pretty definitive end, but like that community that don't really have an ending We don't really see what the resolution is for that community Which I don't know that we necessarily need to but it almost seems especially this seems to be innocent people there Yeah, like they all seem to be being compromised by david I think very few of them know about the eating humans thing Well, and then there's you know the people in the community who have been directly victimized by him as well Yeah, we just don't know I guess the story is not really about them But they were in the story a couple times There is this element that a number of them wanted to protect people from david But they couldn't muster up enough courage to just shoot him and kill him So I kind of agree. I think that is a bit of a weaker part to the episode.    You're part of the problem kid I guess it's interesting the second comment highlights the difference of the video game adaptation because we've seen it throughout the season You just have less like violent encounters in the show because justifying Beyond a gameplay context like the body count of the last of us the game is going to be real hard in like If you're making a call of duty video game or something like that Like the idea that this one soldier kills hundreds of the enemy with small arms is just like that just doesn't happen really Yeah, the encounters are a lot smaller and there are less of them. And so having joel or ellie Having counters like they had during the winter section of like mowing through 50 people respectively Like yeah, it was never gonna happen to address the obvious response to that. Wow So you've made it either we get none or all it's like no no no just All right, I mean that would be a very interesting conclusion to draw from what I said Guarantee you someone's saying it Okay, obviously a healthy balance would have been neat and we've talked I think last episode about how we would have liked more encounters as well It would have been nice to spread everything out a bit more I I'm honestly on the point of saying like I think double the size of the entire show probably would have been I could have gone for more episodes. Yeah, me too. One of my favorite moments in the game isn't a cut scene It's when henry's about to bail on joel on the bus and ellie jumps back down We stay together and joel stops dead in his tracks looking at her thinking the same thing I am Oh, shit She's built different and it's all animated into the gameplay. Um, it's a shame. We didn't mention this in episode Five, I think this doesn't show up in this in the show But it doesn't a game But there is something that shows up in the show that doesn't show up in the game that feels like Possibly they change those just just mentioned and in fact play the clip future me. Okay, we gotta get him up I'm sorry We're leaving what what's this bullshit?  We stick together There it is beautiful That's the game vision in the show There is no moment where henry and sam have a chance to you know risk their lives to help joel and ellie up on a bus and get out of there and they instead opt to Leave them instead They have a moment where ellie falls in front of the incoming Kansas city people and henry runs out grabs her and gets her to safety and joel sees it and I always thought like oh That's an interesting because that that's kind of similar to what happens in the game except they've gone the other direction And I think the point of that is to inform later when ellie is free and clear and joel has her covered She looks over at henry and sam and then she looks up at him and then back at them And then he makes an expression of like Fine, and I always got the impression that that's joel saying like after what henry and sam have done Yes, we will try and save them It seems to me like that's a different beat that they've ran with instead of This one from the game, which you know, I really like this game one as well The only thing I don't like in the game at this section is how henry saves them If you remember they jump off a bridge and they're in the water And then I think joel gets knocked out in like rapids essentially and then we we just wake up And it's like yeah, henry saved both of you and it's like how the fuck did henry save you both? One of you can't swim one of you was knocked out at a very big man Like to the idea that he jumped in grabbed you both and swam you to safety very hard to believe But um, no, I I agree I I think this it would have been cool to have kept this moment If the worry was that it takes away from sam and henry being sympathetic I'd be like you don't have to worry about that This is a very normal thing that they do in the game You know like a normal human reaction and they do apologize for it later It's like a sorry we panicked sort of thing I do like that bit on the beach that immediately follows that where like joel pulls a gun on him And it's like you fucker you left me behind Hey, you know, you would have done the same thing if you were in my position with heli and it's like Fuck all right. I guess yeah, you're right that work together. That whole conversation is really good too Yeah, this is what I mean if you made the whole show longer We could have had all of these bits and all of the new additions and fleshed out just bits that needed it The spores not being in the show really hamstrings a lot of season two last of us two stuff Which is already super weak the cures relevancy is because of the spores as the crew talked about how rare being bitten And surviving the attack so the cure wouldn't matter much in the show because the show doesn't have spores The last of us two stuff really needs a cure the cure to be a viable thing They can't really portray what joel does is something bad since the cure already has super niche usage in the show While ellie's desire to be sacrificed for a cure would be stupid since even surviving an attack from a zombie is rare All in all I think the lack of spores really really hinders the story of the last of us So I agree with everything you just said if the ending of that was really hinders the story of the last of us two I yes, this doesn't hinder the story of the last of us at all That's actually why I think season two is going to suffer because it looks like they're going to make similar mistakes If this world does not really get changed by a cure we've gone over this Yeah, and that's assuming in the games the spores being an element which is more Contagious than physically having to be bit by it. Yeah, well We talked about getting cancelled out was the spores. I think we were like, yeah, it'll make it so you can walk through spores That's all none of them in the show Getting infected infected is it's not going to help you the main concern with infected is getting killed Not getting infected whereas just encountering spores you breathe in and it's like, well, that's it for you Whereas in this the only option is infection basically through like contact with infected But I mean regardless the same issue still persists in terms of the logistics of disseminating a cure And then whether or not the fireflies would even do it and then of course Just all of the ways that the fireflies treat joel badly when he gets there Joel must have unlocked the passive skill that increases his strength when in critical health It's called adrenaline with that injury. He would have been more likely to be in shock So why don't we have a chat about joel's health? Is it viable all the stuff that he does with the wound he has? Yeah, I mean, what does he do that the wound would prevent him from being able to do The most physical thing he does is stab a guy from behind and basically just hold on hold the knife there And that is clearly something that he you know labors through doing Of course if he was to shoot people that wouldn't have mattered, but we don't see him shooting people We don't see how he takes out the second guy the third guy He sneaks up on and hits with a butt of a rifle I think probably the most he'd like to conclude that he's been ambushing them Which is something I really like that they did I actually I guess the most labor-intensive thing that he does is drag those two guys to tie him up Probably in the average offscreen I don't know how this these commenters feel, but I can't imagine they're saying this doesn't apply to game joel as well I would hope so because game joel I mean the injury that he's the rebarth room is really bad And as if I remember correctly joel was in a more or less the same state Like during the winter section in the game as he was in the show being like lying there barely Oh, yeah, that's the day he wakes up, right? Yeah, I think so so like if anything I appreciate the show going to greater lengths to show that he's struggling As to whether or not I can fully believe every action he takes It's like I think they've done a lot to show how limited he is compared to normal So I appreciate that as whether or not I know it to be possible what he's doing So like I guess I I can't know for sure I don't know I appreciate the details they added to make it seem like it was difficult Like when he executes that first one in the torture scene He like almost lays on him like he puts the knife in and he's like laying on him and the chair struggling to get back up Which I like that as well. Like yeah, this is tough stuff game joel, of course Yeah, he gets around that town. He kills a lot of people. Yeah. Yeah, and I I'm mostly okay with both of them game In her moment of rage fear and complete disillusionment joel rushes in to pull ellie back to remind her There is a really a safe place stopping her outburst of emotion and offering her comfort show Nobody comes to her. She wanders outside joel sneaks up on her triggering a fight response out of sheer panic Then comforts her aka why the game is better than a show by the mile It's a bit weird in the show how joel Just wordlessly grabs ellie from behind when he has an opportunity to call to her from a distance Compared to the game where he grabs her to stop her from further mutilating david's body And also says ellie stop. It's me at the same time my head cannon tells me That's because joel is a bit woozy in the head from his wound. That's not thinking uh clearly He seemed coherent enough when he was interrogating the two guys though I agree But maybe there's an argument for that joel wouldn't want to call out to her in case it brings more attention to them Then again when he grabs her I think ellie yells let go of me. So I don't think that's a great defense I would have had joel try a few more times to get her attention more discreetly before having to grab her ellie's just gone through a traumatic event Which is why she takes a bit to realize that is joel. Yes, he can control his own volume He cannot control hers. The argument still stands bit of whispered it joel likely saw her leave the birding building So my guess is he figured she might have a firearm and attack anybody who got close ellie has no reason to believe joel is up and moving and she might not recognize his voice in her hysteria So it's better to grab her than risk getting shot. Yeah, he should have called out. Hey ellie. You're the last of us So when we made the episode more epic ain't this interesting though? This the this whole back there's like talking about things I like it. This is this is what I asked for guys. So thank you Yeah, look at you guys talk about it. I think this is very interesting and um, I uh, I was when I saw the first comment I was like, oh actually. Hmm. Yeah, maybe that is kind of dumb and then I saw the response I was like, oh Okay, because this is the kind of thing. It's like your joel.  What is the smart thing?  I'm here ellie Or do you wait until you're close to her so that you can stop her from saying or doing anything That could risk you guys just I was like, I think I think I can see joel Deciding I should get right up to her and grab it before letting her know it's me. I can understand that choice Yeah, I wondered about that beat too But that the point that guy made about ellie possibly having a gun on her is or I think that's a good point What I'm thinking about is uh simply a matter of timing though in the game He gets there while that's happening and the show he gets there a little bit later, right? Like is yeah, so and in which case what would be the criticism that they chose a less potent way of doing it Well, so this is the big problem we come with with dramatic payoffs, right? It seems that it's built into all of this that it's just better to have him grab her during the killing But that means you don't get the payoff of her slowing down stopping and staring at the body That's right. They're different payoffs as for which one's better or worse. It's a little bit complicated I've always considered when you get to that level. I don't know that I can pick one I think they're both really good. I love the fact that catches her during but I also love the fact that she has to sit there Dealing with that. Yeah, he could have just come around the corner or we don't know exactly where he came from Or how much time he had to see her I think it's probably reasonable to say he should have at least, you know said quietly called out her name having ellie be on her own for a little bit means that she has to grapple with uh What's going through her head in that moment in a sense at almost it might be delivering her a little bit more Uh in exchange for losing a bit for joll maybe but as for which one's better or worse. I don't I don't know I think they're both great Like I don't take much issue with either and I said though if I was it's worse by a mile is a bit Perplexing. Yeah, that's that's quite a stretch You're not I don't think you're being fair or you haven't recognized the good payoff for the show did give And of course there's alternate ways to have done it in the show that they you know Of course could have done but didn't I mean there's nothing that would stop them from having You know like a close-up of ellie's face as she leaves the burning building and then we just hear ellie being said offscreen in joll's voice and we see we focus on just her expression as she hears joll saying ellie's name like there's there's tons of stuff you could have done but I mean you can only do one of them So what I want to talk about quick before we start up is just what is to be so scared of and it is pretty much That they make joll a definitive bad guy in his choice to save ellie now It probably should be said, you know the first response I think a lot of people would ask you if I was like wait, so you're saying you're not allowed to tell that story It's like um, no you can I think and we should be able to judge it for its own thing What I mean by that uh, we brought it before but joll basically everything is set and fine She you know ellie knows about it and she agrees the cure is very viable and they explain to him in great detail How they're going to give it out and how important this is and how many lives will be saved and let's make it the most extreme ellie may be crippled by it like mentally but she'll survive the surgery You know like imagine they even said that and then they were like and you can hang out with her You can let her know it's safe and you could be in the hospital And then he's like no fuck you and shoots everyone in the head and takes it That would be like the most extreme vision of this and we'd be like wow And then you know he admits like it's only because I just want you to be perfectly healthy and I hate the world so You know if they did that it's like so does that ruin the show then and I think I would probably make the argument I don't think that would be the joll that we've seen built up in the show I think that would be a little too out of character. Yep. I'm inclined to worry And so what's a more reasonable way it could go in a direction we don't want It's like well, I think her being conscious is something they could do I think the firefly is being reasonable and giving him what he earned by doing this mission and asking him to just You know be chill that that could be something they do I'm highlighting these as uh In comparison with the game where they don't do these things. Yeah, and then of course, uh, they say yes She is going to die from this and I'm sorry joll like, you know You're just gonna have to understand that and then he's like, uh-huh and then shoots them all I'd be like oh and I still think I might argue that's out of character What I'm hoping for is uh that a lot of it is maintained honestly I think keeping the game because I am familiar with the game's ending and I think keeping that vibe is the wise way to go The concern is now that we're post the last of us two being out We don't want quote unquote retroactively. Obviously, there's a different continuity We don't want them to poorly set up the last of us two essentially Well, so this is so interesting to think about because a lot of people like well Neil's gonna want to make the last of us two more coherent Therefore the ending of the last one is going to be fucked with this is assuming that Neil Druckman himself Believes that the last of us one is incongruent with the last of us two and he might not he may not and we can already tell him Yeah, we can all we can all believe that uh, he believes yes incongruent But whatever I will never I will never admit to that or it could literally be that he's like you're all nuts It works in which case if this just plays out largely in the same way as the game We may end up with the last of us season one being a really nice package Regardless of what comes in the second season We'll be able to go beyond saying there's a couple of episodes that are good We can say no season one the whole season is good and that it can remain that way Which would be nice and it's kind of we've seen some seeds throughout the season being planted I think for what they want to do in season two, but it doesn't seem like there's been anything very Substantial so far in this season that will directly tie into this finale I I'm not sure what I would latch on to for that, you know It seems like at this point the expectation and the want is for it to be as much like the game as uh as possible Yes, I feel like everything else in the season I don't I don't feel joel has been characterized differently enough to justify some kind of crazy ending I don't I don't feel like I agree If I think it would just feel weird, uh, because I think they are whether you like it or not I do think that they're doing a lot of work to make their relationship really good and to portray joel as a really Good guy in terms of you know, how he sees ellie especially, you know, this this is the last episode You know was the one of course that this doesn't sound stupid to say But the last episode was the last one we watched before this one, but this is the you know finale So the last chance they had to have an episode of their relationship ended very squarely in the these two are Super together. Yeah camp So to turn around from that and then kind of make him villainous or portray him in the wrong Would be an extremely strange creative decision to make What is particularly interesting though is that it would be sad to say that tv show joel is a bit softer than game joel Yeah, his default state. I think is more It's not they can both go punisher kill mode. Yes, I think just and in their Normal dealings. Yeah, he's a bit hence. They're going to have to I think irrelevant of the game have to justify joel killing people They need to have something happen that prompts him to do it So let's hope they do the longer the season has gone on I think the more that i'm coming to believe that the finale is going to be more like the game than at the beginning I think so too. I also believe so. I'm actually kind of hoping here that there's not much change at all Like the yeah, I want them to I really I'd like for this episode to be really good I want I want I want a nice complete good season of television here. Oh you guys ready. Yes 43 minute episode everybody all righty Last one Oh, we got a cold open back. Hey, yeah, we did all righty And it's likely for the very reason john highlighted in episode three or four that uh because it's going to be a time Ashley johnson. Yeah, that's the voice of ellie rg ellie. Yes And uh, yeah, this is obviously so far back in time that it's suitable to do a cold open for this This is the thing. I knew she was going to be pregnant because I saw a Promotional picture for it and so I knew she was going to be this so it's the idea here because I don't think we've talked about it But we can't now that ellie will be immune because His mother would have been bitten while she was pregnant. I don't know I know that there was a comic that uh was released alongside the original game That I think dealt with ellie's mom, but I haven't read it. That's interesting It's an interesting idea, right? You'd be like, oh because how many pregnant chicks are going to get bit by Zombies not killed and deliver their baby healthily. It's an idea. I noticed a a little firefly Thing painted on the water tower. So I'm guessing this is a firefly safe house Because you could say it's kind of like blade, right? Isn't the reason he's a half vampire because his mom was bitten while he was in a womb I think that's the story. I think that's right Sad uh because I don't think they've ever tried to justify why she's immune in the game So they I think you said they were sort of in the game I'm vasa. He's broken You find yourself a weapon Push out that baby. I don't know. Is that's what you want to do right now? I don't know if it might not be up to her Oh, it's the switchblade. That's kind of neat. I don't know if it's the same switchblade, but I assume it is Man, this is a real fun situation to be in huh then my day get any worse and then it starts raining Jesus The stress she didn't even know Yeah This sort of happened and there's the bite Yeah, cutting it that close. I think is the way you try and justify how the baby didn't turn into a uh Maybe breast milk after getting bit could be a part of it as well I don't think the character should do that though like they should know. Yeah, I suppose you're right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true What a uh, what a set of emotions to clash together at the same time though. Oh, look Maybe also there's a ticking clock. I'm I'm dead like in a day. Well, what a performance She's got like three minutes to be at the show and she has to do that. Excellent. Yeah Because you know, we know her well from avengers 2012, of course Captain america saved my life Wherever any of them are I would just I think It's just funny. That's the only other thing I can reference. Uh, I think that she was uh, Ben 10's cousin in there's that yeah Ben 10 It's it's funny outside of ellie's voice acting. This is this is probably the most impressive thing i've seen her do It's just like good for you. Mm-hmm. I'm glad you know the meta element of ellie's voice actor giving birth to the character ellie in the show That's pretty symbolic.   He's playing the character He did it really well What a weird thing to read into it. I know Neil Druckman was behind the camera going Like calm down. Did they say this for tommy's voice actor? Probably but if you're gonna drop by the bloater We'll see our reactions. I was just like, hey Like I never saw that was his reaction to Neil Druckman. Oh written by both of them. Was it? Yes Okay, I was gonna say if you have a bad reaction to those things surely you'd have a good reaction to the Symbol isn't another marlene. Come on marlene. He's back. He's gonna be in a lot of this episode. I'd imagine well We haven't seen her since episode Was it just one just one? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's right The infected broke through a gosh-down window. They're so uncivilized never use doors Point that at marlene with your finger on the trigger. Okay.  Is that like a cereal bar? Uh, yeah crumbs everywhere Do not eat in bed. Do not eat k bars guys. Do only eat outside So I guess we're still in the past. They're looking for the mother, right? Well, yeah, because this is gonna be the how does ali get to the fireflies of marlene because she's gonna be close to turning at this point Oh, damn.  You ever see zack's lightest door to the dead rex? No This is a zombie baby How long have we known each other?   Yes. Yeah, that's what the page said Because yeah, none of this none of this is in the game But uh, I think it's a really additional marlene did say marlene did say that she knew ali's mom Or that she she knew her since she was a baby Well, and this is just another example of where the tv show can do some extra stuff Well, just giving this is just all things to help humanize marlene Also, yeah, ashley johnson for what five minutes excellent. Yeah very very good job And also marlene very good too.  We are running out of time though. Yeah, you gotta get a move on episode We're already yeah, that's the thing that was that was pretty good 30 minutes remain Yeah, like that is that's not a lot of time. Yeah, like that was really good. Don't get me wrong But we have this portion of the game this portion of the game is a fair deal longer than 30 minutes. Yeah Do you hear me? Did you hear me? No What? Be ferroni chef boy rd Oh cool. No What? Look hospital This is where we get off. Have you ever played this? Boggle it's a work game If you want to beat me or something it would be this feel that breeze, huh? I'll tell you on a day like this. I just sit on my porch Pick away my sex tree Getting close Hospital that way maybe the one we're looking for Got it foggle boggle played this. Yes Boggle, what's wrong ellie? What's on your mind? I wonder you seem uncharacteristically not sarcastic Joel is uh Well, it is characteristic based on all of the development, but very uh warm and concerned But I very much like this and doing all the stuff before is going to help accentuate what's happening here She's thinking obviously about the end of the trip and what's just happened He on the other hand is trying to make her feel better. Yep. Good flip You trust her gives her the gun now doesn't even have to think about it I can you know give ellie a gun. They had a guitar in that rv It's all smashed up, but got me thinking. You know once we're done with this whole thing I'm gonna teach you how to play guitar Yeah, I reckon you'd really like that. I was thinking maybe I could teach you I bet you'd be great at it You want to learn how to play guitar? What do you say, huh? Ellie, I'm talking to you. Huh? Oh Yeah, sure. That sounds great Ellie Oh, yeah That'd be great Joel's so much more loquacious compared to how he was at the beginning. He's so open now. Yeah, I mean this girl saved his life So, yeah, they just been together many months now, you know I just think that's one of the bigger things that happened that changed stuff Obviously, she'd saved it before but the efforts she took to save it the second time was pretty insane. Yep.  We're just like, yeah, I trust you completely Like Jar Jar Binks owes um Qui-Gon Jinn a life debt Is it melancholic the fact that any reference to like his guitar things that'll happen after the events of this episode make me sad? Yeah, it does it makes me sad too because I'm worrying the very end of the last of us is Ellie having lost two of her fingers can't even play guitar anymore. God. I hate that ending Why because she actually gave up on the you know end of the cycle of violence and her reward was she still lost everything We'll talk about that some other day I was thinking we blast our way through that rubble. I found some dynamite in that RV back there Really? No, so we're gonna cut through that building for how'd you go? It is such an interesting shift in the dynamic Yeah, and it also speaks a lot that I don't like it that ellie's sad Yep, you know, I was like, I don't like seeing this because by this point I just would be surprised if you went and did to her regardless of you know, whether you'd played She's been through so much. She's uh, she's a trooper.  Yeah, I think that's one of the most common openings of a thing sound ever. It's usually for doors. I think I'll get you up there. You can drop that ladder down and we go through that way Hey, that's a fun little reference. Look video games. Everything all right. Yeah, I'm fine Yeah, you just kind of seem extra quiet today Okay Yeah, fine Just you kind of seem extra quiet today, so Oh Sorry, no, it's not It's fine I'm sorry. No, it's fine Did you hear what I yeah boost got it ellie what The ladder come on. What is it? Oh, yeah, another thing we've got to mention I'm very much hoping for the giraffe payoff But the curiosity will be if they do cg or not I think they can a little spring for some real giraffes I don't know. I don't know if it's a matter of like what you can pay for versus what you're allowed to use in certain places Yeah, you think there's a combination of both a giraffe around here that may prevent them The thing I if you ask me about on it, I'd say it's gonna be cg. It's gonna be probably it's just easy to control It's just yeah, it's it's kind of sad. I mean think about all the um You know all the giraffes out there that you know want to make it big. Yeah, she's seen the giraffe, isn't it? It's all right Come here hurry up Come here. Did she see the shadows on the tarps like a velociraptor? Good reference. I don't know why you'd make it. I don't know damn.   Come on. The neck is many stories tall Unless there it is she heard it or something This is probably I'm gonna quite well utilize considering a current state of mind as well Oh, that giraffe looks really good. I imagine that this giraffe was born um after you know The apocalypse. So this is a free-range giraffe That's a very good looking giraffe. Very good looking giraffe. It'll be from the zoo, right? I assume that's what this is I think that's where that problem in the game. Yeah. Well. Yeah, but this one it means 20 years. This one is uh Well, how long does the giraffe live? Well, it's kind of the nature of the whole thing right that nature is uh It's kind of the nature of nature. Yeah, exactly that now along those tongues Give me that leaf.  It just wants to be chill Is that like a is that a real giraffe that looks really good? I wonder if we're gonna see is that bird that's real caught up That's the closest thing to a sorry that we're ever gonna get is a dead Like nailed to the wall Like yeah, like on a cross Is everything you're open for Is it everything you hoped for got its ups and downs? It's got its ups and downs Can't deny that for you. I can't deny the view though This word top looks very similar. Yeah So the game this whole environment. Yeah, it's really similar super detailed callback. Is it everything you hope for? Jury's still out. Is that everything you hope for? Jury's still out. You can't deny that view We did it. Now here's the convoy. I don't know exactly where this hospital is. Yeah, we'll find it Maybe there's nothing bad out there, but so far there's always been something bad out there We're still here though. We don't have to do this You know that right We don't have to do this I just I want you to know that. What do you mean? What else are we supposed to do? What's the other option?   Yeah, that's that's just him being like, you know, can we can we not do it This is the big thing about the story, right? It's the discovery that why are we alive? It's like to have moments like this with each other. It's not about like To have moments like this with each other. It's not about like he's so much less focused now on like some grand mission He just wants to hang out with it The moon yeah Yeah, the moon dream of Sheep ranches on the moon I will you ain't cargo no more All right, we're nearly halfway fireflies got to get in here Yep Unless the I mean, do you think the structure is going to be cliffhangers with what he's going to do in our season two? No way No, the ending is definitely going to take us right back to where it ends in the game Yeah, there's God could you imagine that would I think that would piss people off? Definitely looks extremely good post-apocalypse vibe is like that was about that design is incredible Yeah, this looks amazing. You know, there's just weeds and plants growing up growing up everywhere We got a bit of rubble things and the visual effects of the backgrounds are super well integrated. Yes. They look very good I don't imagine like the kind of effort it takes to do that, but it looks great I think I only got I think it was filmed over the course of the year at a long production timeline. They put these places up all around The first few days after the outbreak Emergency medical camps. This place takes me back How so? It was right after everything went down I ended up in a tree.   It's for this not the guy who shot and missed I figured that would have happened later Nope Is that after you lost sarah? Yes, it was Well, I got a hand it to the army people. They were way better at stitching you up than I was. I was the guy who shot and missed I Can't imagine losing someone you love like that Losing everything that you know I'm sorry jewel sarah died And I couldn't see the point anymore and I wasn't scared either. I was ready That's okay. I meant to pull the trigger. I flinched. I still don't know why Hey, Joel.  I guess It wasn't time that didn't I don't know matter how hard you try I guess you can't escape your past Thank you I'm glad that that didn't work out Me too In the game, this is where ellie gives joe the photo of sarah that she found. I wonder if they'll do that So what was wrong with you? Also, she can talk about sarah and it doesn't bug him That is I think a similar sort of realization in the game We're just like damn they really have come far then well i could patch right there look at him Dude everything's ready for the payoff now.    No, it's topical. It's topical Moon rocks tastes better than earth rocks. Why meteor? It's terrible. That's it. That was actually good.  That was actually good. All right. All right. You look appealing Oh, okay. All right. Yeah.  Yeah Yeah, the fireflies. Yes, they are and we didn't do the the water the swimming payoff They are being uh, they're being dicks Oh, whether or not she's conscious. Whoa. I'm very scared right now. These are going to be a tens few minutes Yeah, this is it. This is it the conversation with marlene is everything Keep an eye on them subtitles everybody because i'm probably going to be talking a lot about every single thing they say Uh, yeah, hi Welcome to the fireflies Sorry about the They don't know who you were patrol didn't know who you were. Really? She's all right. They brought her back Where's ellie? She wasn't hurt Not even a scratch. She's mostly worried about you. You came all this way How'd you do it? It was her How'd you do it?   She would have been dead on day one You had the one person I never wanted to be in debt to But I owe you I pretty much lost everything And then you show up and somehow we find you just in time to save her. Maybe it was meant to be We all know you just take me to her I can't She's being prepped for surgery You don't have to worry about her anymore. We'll take care. I worry. Just let me see her, please What surgery? You can't She's being prepped for surgery The hell you mean surgery our doctor he thinks that the cordyceps and ellie has grown with her since birth Why is she in surgery doctors tell me the cordyceps the growth inside her has somehow mutated It's why she's immune it produces a kind of chemical messenger It makes normal cordyceps think that she's cordyceps. It's why she's immune once they remove it They'll be able to reverse engineer a vaccine vaccine.   There is no one else. She's being prepped for surgery He thinks it could be a cure joe. It could be could be we're okay so far cordyceps grows inside the brain It does Is she awake? Is she awake? Is she awake? We didn't tell her we didn't cause her any fear. There won't be any pain Find someone else. There is no one else. We didn't tell her we didn't cause her any fear There won't be any pain. They didn't tell her you take me to her help. They didn't tell her. She doesn't know Yes, what and it's exactly yep I get it But whatever it is you think you're going through right now is nothing to what I have been through Any pain no you take me to her you take me to her right now I knew her since she was born. I promised her mother. I would look after her Then why are you letting this happen? Please you don't understand. I was there when she was born joe Because this isn't about me or even her There is no other choice here. I promised her mother that I would save her child.  I'm sorry. I have no other choice. I do Please you don't understand I do Is that intro? She was there when she was born joe I have no I do Uh-oh margin matter here He tries anything shoot him Welcome out to the highway leave him there with his pack give him this He tries anything Shoot him Welcome out to the highway leave him there with his pack Give him this He tries anything Shoot him Oh deals been well it's a little bit different But they're not giving him the weapons like they're not giving him what they agreed to Yeah, it's still it's everything's here. The only thing that's different was just the pack Just the pack. That's it.  They are they are we've been told throughout this season They're assholes in terms of what they do to gain. So what do you think they're gonna use this for? I like this, you know I like that this is happening at the bottom of a dark stairwell It's like he's descending in it into what he knows he has to become to do ammo Yep Thank you mags. They both use the same mags. So it's not a problem This is I think this is a scene that a lot of people have wanted for a while This is gonna be punishes y'all basically I like him shooting through the window Because glass isn't bulletproof I like these editing choices too. Yeah. Yeah Music is pretty full boating as well. Yeah, it is.   Oh, this is yeah. This is uh, this is him real scary It's just coming between a man and his daughter. That's what the story's about I love that this is kind of a montage of just like mayhem Well, yeah, and like I said the music choice the tone here is like did this have to happen It's like there's so many reasons how it didn't but it did. Yeah, we're gonna have to have our show down at the end Yeah, this is this battle a lot this doctor Yep, is there a little girl in this room? It's like daddy. No, are we gonna do it? If there's a zebra in this room, that'll just that'll just be it The whole way good job Pedro in this whole season. Yeah He's been fantastic Unhook her. What are you doing in here? This is our future. Think of all the lives we'll save. How did you get in here?  Oh, well, I guess is it up to you in the game whether or not you spare these It's uh, you don't have to it's just the doctor.  I bet I think I know what's gonna happen. Have you ever seen it before? No, you can't keep her safe forever You can't save her Even if you get her out of here, then what?  That is if she hasn't been raped and murdered first How long till she's torn apart by infected or murdered by raiders?  Because I think she'd want to do what's right And you know it Do the right thing here Even after what you've done We can still find a way She won't feel anything This editing is straight out of the game Yeah, straight out of the game Yeah, one to one What?  Just take it easy Drugs are still wearing off The drugs are still wearing off I was with the firefighters and then What drugs? What happened?  Raiders attacked the hospital I barely got you out of there We'll find you some new ones on the way Are people hurt? Yes Is Marlene okay? I'm taking us home Wait, let me go No, wait, wait, wait You just come after her You just come after her You just come after her That flaming was identical to the game Just exactly the same All of it, one to one And now we're back to And back to Jackson These landscapes I will say that We were worried about the The amount of time but they were quite expeditious They were quite expeditious They were quite expeditious They were quite expeditious They were quite expeditious They were quite expeditious I think it was like one pointed out The montage of the Fight at the hospital That was a good choice Looks like we're walking Well, she got us close enough We've got to walk the rest of the way She'll be a straight shot through here It's actually kind of pretty, ain't it? Probably about a five-hour hike We can manage that Yeah I used to hike like this all the time I wouldn't say it was her favorite thing She wasn't a fan of the mosquitoes and such I don't think I ever told you But Sarah and I used to Take hikes like this She would have liked you Not to say the two of you are the same Definitely different kids Ah, sir Well, she was a lot more I know she would have liked you I bet I would have I want to say girly and I'm not saying that you're not girly I'm not Just a little bit further now She had a killer smile Again, not saying that you don't Do you know why I think she liked you? Why?  Hey, wait Back when I was bitten I wasn't alone Back in Kansas City, you asked me about the first time I killed someone When I got bit in the mall, I wasn't on my own My best friend was there My best friend was there And she got bit, too We didn't know what to do And she got bit, too We didn't know what to do and she says So, she says We can just wait it out Be all poetic and just lose our minds together Let's just wait it out You know, we can be all poetic and just lose our minds together And then she did And I had to I'm still waiting for my turn Ellie Her name was Riley and she was the first to die Her name was Riley She was the first to die And then it was Tess And then it was Tess And then Sam And then Sam That's not on you Look, sometimes things don't work out the way we hope You can feel like Like you've come to an end You don't understand I struggled for a long time With surviving You don't know what to do next But if you just keep going No matter what You keep finding something to fight for You find something new to fight for No, maybe that's not what you want I swear to me Now, I know that's not what you want to hear right now I swear to me That everything you said about the Fireflies is true I swear I swear And you get the sense that there's some Oh, it's getting big Or maybe it's always been that big Well, the thing is that Jackson looks Reasonably big But you don't go to Jackson in the game In the first one You only get to see it from outside Like this angle, yeah And this will be our conflict for Season 2 The thing about this is Maybe she never will One of the interpretations from people of the game Is that she knows he's lying But she accepts it That's an interpretation Yeah, we did it We did it everybody We made it We're safe for a while We did make it We're safe for a while That's good Yeah, this is a solid season And hopefully the section to the ending Will make them think about What they're going to do with Season 2 At the beginning of the season, I don't think we expected it to be that But I mean, that was pretty close To the game There's obviously differences here or there But a lot of the major beats with their hand It's the closest to a game as far as adaptations go That we've ever seen The critical part though is The whole conflict there Oh god, I'm so relieved I know, right? It's just like, oh, yep We're there I will say It gives me the impression that they will be on script For the Last of Us 2 Season 2 I imagine we're going to be seeing it one to one Yeah, there is that But the thing is it's like, at least we got this We did get it Yeah, I don't know what they're going to do I don't think we're going to get changes that make Last of Us 2 better I think it's going to be pretty much one to one It's going to be about whether or not they feel the need to change certain things A lot of what destroys that game for me Is so many small decisions made by characters There's a lot of big ones too We've changed to improve the story We've said since the beginning, you can kill Joel You can You can do it But you gotta At least we've got a Season 1 that hasn't been Drastically Mired by the existence of The Last of Us Part 2 It's so weird to think that they would take 2 And know what the reception is to that game And then do a second season of TV like it By comparison to what they've done here Which is more or less follow the broad strokes Of the original game Obviously some notable changes here and there Broadly following the same strokes Do they do the same thing with The Last of Us 2 Of like the same general structure The same core theme The same, you know, lines of dialogue I'm not sure, but I'm just relieved We've got Season 1 here It's nice and yeah, it's there They did it Plenty of praise But my god, it came through as a TV show I think I think so too The one thing I guess I'm sad about is I could never Experience the show without knowing about the game I'd be curious how that goes Yeah, what does that look like because The guest on Open Bar was saying that His POV was knowing nothing about the games He's really enjoying the show and I'd be like I wonder if it plays better without knowing All of the things that could be Because you've literally seen it happen As opposed to just potential TV show storytelling Well and this show has the unique thing Operating that some people who have played The games are coming into the show Like yeah and Season, and you know the last of us Two is great, whereas there's some of us As well who are coming into this Yeah, really like the last of us One, they're not so big fans of two And it's hard not to imagine that Two is influencing one, but seemingly Not a whole lot Because there were seeds that were definitely planted For two, but they were not substantial Yeah, and I get it Right, the idea being that this is what Someone will do for one person, right That's what this whole story is about This is how far it'll go for one person But what if Season 2, what if one of the people He killed was someone that someone else Will do everything for, you know, that's possible And what happens then? It's like, oh that sounds interesting Yeah If you do that, yeah good Yeah, that could be a story We're simply not there yet What we've got is this season And I think they did a really good job Yeah, I think so too I'm really happy with the performances as well Yeah, I'm happy with the performances Basically everybody, I can't think of any Weak performances in this show And production has been awesome It's been so nice that they also, you know Brought back the composer, brought back Some of the original actors from the game It's an adaptation that certainly Has a greater degree of reverence For the original material Than some other How could you conclude anything else This is obviously the best video game adaptation From the standpoint of faithfulness Is there anything that could possibly be this? I can't think of anything on faith Because I think Arcane is the stronger television show I agree But if you look at other ones Uncharted was pretty lame Halo was awful Mortal Kombat is like It's not great And a lot of it is more And Sonic the Hedgehog I guess it's more Interesting forward looking because we've got A lot of things that are coming now based on We've got God of War, BioShock Here's War Horizon There's a lot about Mario Brothers I'm so hoping this show The show can act as a big old flagship For the era of oh shit Maybe there's something to these game stories Maybe we should pay attention to them Unfortunately Arcane being an animated show Unfortunately it just means that for some reason A lot of its merits Just get overlooked by a mass audience This is one of the most successful shows in HBO The thing is that the league Storylines weren't taken Almost directly and put into Arcane This is a very direct update And it's been a tremendous success Commercially and critically I think so I think that by the end of this season I think that the game is I think I prefer the game still I still prefer the game too However don't scoff at this show This is a good show I would recommend it to somebody who enjoyed the game Or somebody who hasn't played the game It is a matter of there just wasn't as much time The game got to have more time Of just Joel and Ellie moving through environments And talking to each other The show lost some of that The game simply has more good material in it It's just more time to build And therefore the payoffs will hit harder It's just a simple bit of math The extra of a game Sort of more integrating you into You're not just watching Joel You're playing as Joel I was wondering in the finale If we were going to get A big old horde of infected And if there are complaints about the finale I imagine that might be one of them But it didn't bother me Because they focused on all the big character stuff All the important stuff is there It feels to me the same as the previous episode Where it's like oh it really wasn't much infected At all and it's like Is that a problem? It's like well I'd like to see them But no it doesn't make the episode bad Or worse because there's no infected Episode 5 was the big blowout Episode with the infected And then afterwards it's you know And I can see people already right now saying Ah yes it's totally fine for the zombie survival show Thing to not even have enemies Yes that makes sense it's like well I hate genre arguments They drive me nuts I don't like them either Because they're often weird and confused And hard to be consistent about This show what everyone I think agrees on What is the last of us in IP about It's like Joel and Ellie They definitely came through on that Certainly in these last two episodes In terms of what's happening to these two people But yeah I happily concede I would have liked to see more raider encounters I would have liked to see more zombie encounters I would have liked to see more time with everyone Yeah yeah I feel like the zombies were a bit sparse If we had gotten all those things If the season was like 18 episodes 13 episodes I think you pushed it to 13 and that would be enough Yeah no I don't disagree with that I just mean fuck it let's go Why not have 22 episodes I wonder if it's just a matter of At that point it's just a matter of how much money Is the season gonna cost I don't care I don't care yeah I make it as long as necessary Well what I was gonna say is I think if we had that And it was as good as this is If not slightly better in terms of just your quality per episode I'd be happy to call it great I don't think I'm quite at the position of calling it great I'm not quite there either Yeah it's got great things about it But overall I'm not quite there I don't think I think it's enough dragging it back That I would settle on good It's very good I'm comfortable with good Maybe teetering towards very good A lot of the conversations can immediately be about How it compares to the game or whether or not it's stacked up Or is it good enough to pass most of it Probably should talk about the storytelling decisions What happened in this episode similarly to the game Why are they important So much effort was put into finalizing And being definitive about what relationship they have And being presented by the Fireflies And I just think it's crystallized the moment she says I understand I've got this with her mom I did the promise and blah blah blah I really got no choice this is what I've got to do Basically like I can't change this and he's like I can And then Joel says yeah exactly You're forgetting about me I can choose I'm gonna choose differently than you I really enjoy the fact that Marlene's not Nobody's stupid enough in this moment to believe It's like ah Okay so you need to get the fuck out then Fireflies I still get the decisions they're making I even get the decision they're making with Ellie It's just I'm sorry you've made it This is the kind of conflict you fucking love where You can understand why the decision was made And now you're like well you know what happens next Is he fucking kills you that's what happens next Messing with his girl I would feel comfortable at this point saying His daughter he totally sees her like that And then of course it's just You know of the elements intact from the game She didn't get to choose She didn't get to make a real informed choice There's stuff to think about for exactly why Joel does what he does and then there's conversations To have with or not you support his decision or not But people have no problem with the game And I doubt they'll have a problem with the show believing I would do the same thing if I were a dad in that situation And then of course it's the same as In the game right with Ellie's You know what does her okay mean Problem is in the games we now know That it wasn't quite that Yeah I can't understate how fucking Happy I am they left it ambiguous in the season one Thank you thank you so much for that That's right that was the good choice Because yeah as a viewer Whether or not you played the game or not You're just left to ponder Does she actually know what's happened And has accepted this does she really believe him It's a great ending I remember conversations about it at first And it's just like the take away I had And this is part of what pissed everybody off about last was She knows what he's done She knows why he's done it It felt to me that's the fucking point of that conversation They had up to that point was He adored his daughter and how much he sees Of his daughter in her and she's like Ah shit okay look You killed everybody to save me didn't you And he's like no and then she's like Okay the recognition to me was always A matter of like you're never gonna tell me the truth And I know why you're not gonna tell me Let's move on yeah this is not Like no conflict here Is gonna really move this forward So let's just we got something Let's keep going and there there is no Hesitation on Joel's part in His affirmation of The lie it's like I told You the truth and she she knows Just by that it's like You're not gonna be straight with me are you Like I'm not gonna get it out of you so okay It always frustrates people as well about The second game that he just he does such a Piss poor job of explaining why he made the decision Once he has to to her They need to because of their objectives In the narrative he needs to He needs to be bad That's how it comes across yeah The last of us Fights so hard to contextualize Joel's actions as like completely Inexcusable and Irrational and it has to fight So hard to try to convince The audience of that Bending and buckling and breaking it every turn But it doesn't matter what happens in season two At this point because season one It's the game not not quite But you know it is the game and that it is A complete story it's a complete Package and yeah I assume Part of what she was getting at when she was explaining All the people who've died is the that was Supposed to come to a real significant point Like a cure right but then he cuts her off To say hey meaning And what we live for what we fight for it Doesn't have to be that it could be anything and it'll be Something something will come that's makes It all worthwhile you can look back it's like Horrible things happen because I think it's Clear to both of them exactly what both of them are Thinking about and that's why it's such a great Scene and it wasn't a game and I think it's worth Emphasizing that what we've got here in terms Season of television is one that's really thematically Strong it's got great For these main characters like that is Really it's really like intact I feel like that's something I want to emphasize amidst All of the criticism being levied at The show and some of it I imagine To just you know stemming from the Meadow I mean it's worth taking stock of What we've got here as a season of television I'm also curious about the people who think he's Like sorry beta cuck joel after that hospital Scene That was about as far As you're gonna get from sorry beta cuck You know you just fucking annihilated so many of them We even had him executing people who were Either dying anyway or giving up Which yeah it's just this is always something I thought it was potential within him he's A lot of the scenes where he's holding back he has The history they set it all up with Tommy That's why Tommy didn't like being with him Was the this was the shit he would do to make Sure they survive and someone else I appreciated Honestly was the we kind of kept all of the Things that we needed to keep Same I was kind of worried that he might Just execute all the doctors and shit but No they actually do show The doctor grabbing the scalpel and he's About an inch away from going for joel And he shoots him I was like yes they did It properly because he could have just had It that he was like oh my like what are you Doing sir because boom boom boom boom boom boom boom This is like oh like towering in a corner And stuff they made sure please don't shoot me Yeah they made sure to have everybody He kills be a threat at least Overly the most The most one you could consider is the surrendering guy, but I'm more than happy to say like yeah, you're gonna have to just leave him Yeah, like yeah, he could like pick up the gun when I'm gone and see what's up Well, it's just especially when you've got other enemies around with other guns you need to get rid of him I can understand in the first place in I think that guy was shooting at him before anyway Like a moment beforehand more than likely. Yeah, and then you got the jump on him through whatever move But yeah, there's that there's a course that they leave him What do they say they leave him with his pack and a knife So not only they whilst on the deal, but who knows what else that you didn't get his rifle even though It's all there this show I almost want to not have the game in my head so that I can better see like all the connecting pieces instead of just being like Well, I know that's there because that's how that worked before I know what you mean Yeah, I'm sticking the same pretty happy. Oh, it could have gone so much worse It could have been terrible. It could have been completely Re-engineered to fit like a last-of-us-two Focused everyone expected it to all be altered to either better fit last of us to or to just better fit new Values as a storyteller who's doing it again. It's like, you know, I change my mind I never thought it would be this accurate. Nope. I didn't think so either. You saw how we talked about it before it started We were not really expecting this to be good, but I'm impressed. Yeah, let's see I like that this show runners bring in the infected when they need them like in episode 5 You build up this confrontation between what's her face and her gang and our heroes and it's like they're outnumbered They're in danger at that point you bring a horde of infected in to kind of disrupt that conflict And then our heroes take advantage of the chaos to like escape with their lives and in this there is a big old Infected segment from the game that was cut out But it's nothing of character was lost all you're really missing from that getting chopped out from this end Segment is this sort of last-minute panic of like oh god is Ellie dead like and also the fact that Ellie Knowing that she can't swim. She was willing to risk her life to save Joel Yeah, and then like he pulls her out of the water and it's like oh my god Is she dead is this all been for nothing and she's desperately trying to save her There's a little something there that's cool, but you don't need it all the important beats were covered We already know from in the show that Ellie is willing to go out of her way to save Joel's life given that How she looked after him in the winter phase when he's like and hold on dude It's such a dramatic change in attitudes that he has with her that you see so quickly like and we were commenting on it At the time it's just it's all supporters He's not only feeling incredibly in debt to her and trusts her and loves her at this point He also wants her to feel better. Yeah, and he knows what appeals to her. He's been with her for a while now I just want to say thanks for inviting me to watch this and talk about this. Oh, absolutely Dude, this is this kind of a first because as much as we did the haunting of Hill House That's not quite the same as this This was a you know back and forth of the audience taking it week by week checking it out And I think I have absolutely no regrets about asking you to come and join us for it Thank you for doing that. Yeah, it's been good. Oh, man. I've been stoked. Yeah I just hope your chat isn't too sick of me at this point, but if you are it's okay.   Yeah whole season Whoa one so much for joining us everybody appreciate it And let us know if you want to see more for these sorts of things with different shows in future could do it older ones Could do newer ones like sale happily ask all of you to cover the second season list when it ever comes out We got Gotham Knights of Mandalorian are the next ones, so Gotham Knights of Mandalorian awesome Yep, you know, of course batwomens are still gonna be coming out And it might be as well that we eventually get around to watching this story continue into the final season of flash That's something I've seen clips of I can see us doing that at some point But I got it just you know, let people know a lot of workers into making an editing these and so you know It's not just a matter of like tick a box and you get that show Let's just do it's like no It takes like days to not only schedule setup download upload edit thought out, you know We try and bring you as much as we can and hopefully this was a fun adventure for you all You know good work to everyone for editing these putting them together good work for making a good show I didn't hate it. Congratulations. I didn't hate it That's the thumbs up and now we can breathe a little bit of a sigh of relief until You know yeah season two happens and we're worried again. Thanks everybody to be thank you But you bring me


Hey, this is Brett and this 2022 Ford F250 Crew Cab Short Box XL is stock number 14216Z. I am here at Summit Automotive in Fondlack, Wisconsin, your new and used heavy-duty truck headquarters. This 2022 Ford F250 comes with a 6.7 liter power stroke diesel engine. It puts out 475 horsepower, 1,050 foot-pounds of torque. It's paired up with the 10-speed automatic transmission. This truck has been fully-safetyed and inspected by our service shop per the state of Wisconsin inspection process. It has a fresh oil and filter change, all the fluids have been checked and topped off, and it has four brand new tires, and it is 100% ready to go. I'm going to go all the way around in this video, inside, underneath, start it up, take a look under the hood, show you all the options on the inside, and just give you the most accurate representation that I can of the truck. Oxford White is the color. I shoot all my videos in 4K. If you like the video, consider subscribing to the YouTube channel. 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