All right, I'm back y'all. I think I fixed it y'all. I think I fixed it up Was good was good Was good waiting for some more people to get back in here, man.  Yeah, I'm back I said I was gonna fix it and I did fix it. I did a little test stream and it was good, bro It was crisp on on YouTube's end So I had to adjust some of my settings make sure everything's still squared away Check my settings just to make sure everything's still good Yep, everything is still good. That's that's what I was most concerned with Output So, yeah, I'm back on here, man. Let's try this again. I Might have my stuff pulled up Just to make sure it's not doing it again because I'm mad if it is so Still laughing at how you was acting when the still kid still tipping a man. That's a classic beat classic beat That month trying to get the stream set up, bro, trying to get the stream set up. It looks good. Yeah Yeah, it's looking good. The real question is making sure it looks good during the game so Is it fixed Ross, I think so bro, we're about to find out you're about to see but I believe it is fixed Because that I've watched back the the last stream. I just posted earlier. It was awful, bro Y'all are some troopers for actually even staying that long so Thank y'all for just staying That shit was awful, bro Working good right now All right, we're about to see bro. I want to give y'all the best possible content, man I like multiplayer going. I was looking how I was looking at y'all. It's a lot better now. Hey, I fixed it a Lot better nice. Oh No Looking crispy. Yes. That's what I cared about a fix it, bro Shout out to the home ears. It's our dance a lot. He definitely helped me fix it up All right, we cooking with grease now. You got the easy double kill. I just gotta get my aim on point.  I'm struggling right now.  Oops There we go Let me get over here to the point Yeah, I'm not gonna be playing any wars on the night Just focusing on multiplayer right now. I can't get nothing going though guys Stinking up the thing.    What is going on? I Can't get nothing going.  Where is he? Oh, he's back there Yeah, I figured you're right there. I'm staying sorry God damn Support Ross channel get him up to he's above me. I think they got this one. I can't get nothing going Yeah, I can't get nothing going right now.   They got it. That's all he saw my laser We don't want to go all one way But they keep going all one way He knew I was there. This is just a bad one. I Definitely want to run a rematch of some sorts because I got to do better than that. I Got to do better than this. I know I can do better than this. This is awful. This is one of them games I just can't get nothing going right now So try to run this again. I knew you're gonna push it.  How did he get over here so quick? Oh, that's a good name Yeah, we lost this game with all this shit, I tried I Started getting in my rhythm towards the end towards the end. That's why I started getting into my rhythm It's cool.  I did average at best I'm gonna try to hopefully doesn't break up the lobby because I want to play against this guy. What's good, silver All right, see what y'all talking about Support Ross channel appreciate Jacob was spinning bars. Yeah, the entire album. I enjoy it thoroughly I'm not sure if I'm gonna call it album of the year But it's the best album hip-hop that I've heard hip-hop album. I've heard so far this year, so That's a good thing man It was nice. Don't don't you get bored which is I'm up your board on what let me know what you're talking about I'm glad the stream just looks better. That's us. That's my biggest thing that I was more concerned about Just making sure the stream look better. I think I played with JB should before I Think I have I'm not sure But I think I have played with JB should playing this game Mm-hmm. I don't really get bored especially now since I got the the new console and a new monitor It's it's literally just made me like the game even more for the graphics and Me being able to play on a higher settings like I'm rocking with the game But the games I am waiting for I'm definitely waiting for battlefield 6. I'm definitely waiting for halo I Don't see what other games but those two games. I'm looking forward to especially battlefield 6. I definitely want to play some battlefield So I won't be playing Call of Duty all the time in in the future. I'm waiting for battlefield 6 to drop You say he's in the Hall of Fame NBA Hall of Fame See what message I got Hey, hi Ross loving the stream Cuba the great a appreciate that fluffy panda girl Thanks Thanks, man That's crazy yo shout out to fluffy panda girl, man. She's checking out the stream right now and I thank you so much The album is definitely in contention. Don't forget certified lover boy and breezy both coming this year. Oh true true True so it you know saying it's it's it's gonna be some heat on the way. I Appreciate y'all joining in I Had to stream Jumping earlier. Not really the quality was jumping, but that was about it I am a new subscriber, and I love your videos. Keep it the great rough. Thank you so much, man Thank you so much. Now. Let me know if the quality dips at any point Let me know if the quality dips.   Yeah, my baby's okay. She went to therapy.  Oh, yeah, I did see the Mass Effect got the legendary just a legendary edition. All right, so he's up above. I Damn it. Oh, yeah, I'm having a pretty good day. Can't complain. We go this way. I can't move I knew someone was looking at me. That was a good name. Oh Almost killed myself. I didn't know he was right. Why is he up there, bro? Shit's annoying. It's getting intense. I'm definitely not a guy, bro. I don't feel like a guy right now.  I gotta see where I'm gonna go Cuz I can't really push out right now. I don't think we all can push out right now God damn it, bro. I need help in here. What's good, bro? I need help in here Yeah, man He must have knew he hasn't known That's just a bad swan. How you swan someone I don't even make sense Damn it. I was so close to capping it, bro God damn and I died So close to cabinet, bro. Oh, man. What do we did happen? Well, we got the win Got the win man. So that's all the matters.  Hey, man, you gonna bet this early? Hey, appreciate you checking out Ross, can you check out the PlayStation DualSense cosmic red midnight reveal trailer personal channel? Please thanks love the stream. I don't know if I'm gonna do that be honest with you I mean, I'll check it out personally. I don't know if it's just like we're Making a video about but I can check it out though. I ain't really do too well on that game either Wolf of my standards. I think I could have did a little bit better No cap See what I can do on kill house See what y'all sending me love the stream my boy keep up grinding. Thanks my guy. Thank you I appreciate that You know, I'm saying I'm tripping No, I don't play Cold War no more, bro. I haven't played it since I got it If I can get my aim, right, I'll be cool, but I can't get my aim, right?  It can be fun I just can't get nothing going. I was not Well, look at that.   It's ridiculous.   I don't even know That was a good place teammate is not liking that.   Oh Okay, I don't want to push that way Yeah, damn. I'm in here now. We're doing something now.  Oh, this was the guy that was on our team.  Oh my god Yeah, he was spamming the shot. He thank God. He missed that first shot Damn, I was trying to hit the flank, but I didn't know he saw me Dammit teammate. You didn't see him They go put an M on the top of your head like we need you brother. Yeah, that was nice That was a nice Barbara. No cop. I have to make sure he was dead.  They kept spawning over there.  Hey, thank you so much, bro. I really do appreciate that. Oh, he got stuck. Oh, that was a good name.  Oh, he's still over there to the right. Oh, let's do got me with that one. Yeah, it's over He got me. Oh Jesus Thank you. Someone saved my life parking twice He likes to drop shot with the AS Val Yeah, he likes to drop shot with the AS Val his CDs He said too easy So you're a drinker Ross at all if so, what's your favorite thing to drink? Um, I Usually drink dark But lately I've been drinking tequila Lately, I've been drinking Don Julio. I usually drink dark, but lately I've been drinking Hey, the AS Val is my new favorite gun. It goes on. Oh, no, it's it's it's a milk machine It's a little machine. The only reason I don't like it cuz You don't really get enough ammo in it Ross you streaming tomorrow. No tomorrow. I'll be watching Um Backlash, so I won't be streaming tomorrow. I'm be focusing on getting that video out to you guys. So That's the only reason why I'm streaming today. I haven't played modern warfare in a long while. Yeah, man I was on it last night going on now. I can't do it 4932 like that's average to me. It should not be it Should be more than that. I Missed with a fireball fireball is not cool. No, not bad Appreciate everyone joining in on the stream, man But I decay if I should play modern warfare or cold war. I Like modern warfare personally better. That's just my opinion on it But you're entitled to pick which game you want to play but cold war No, same for me Ross cannot wait for WrestleMania side backlash or it should just be called backlash like it's always been since Backlash was a pay-per-view created. I don't know why they're doing this WrestleMania backlash cringe dude Ryan So I don't know I'm gonna watch a WrestleMania backlash. Oh, yes. Yeah, I'm gonna watch it I don't really too much care about the raw matches. So let me know what raw matches are happening Because I only care about really the Roman Reigns storyline So I'll watch it but you know saying like I'll be watching it but not watching it If that makes any sense, but it's like I may want to focus on it just so for no sake, but I Don't know. We'll see. We'll see.  I just want to go off on stream, bro Like I have at least I've only done it like once Wait, how many people are on my team? Oh, you gotta be kidding me.  It's only me Okay, all right about to say I just don't know where I put it. I literally had it a minute ago. I just can't find it Yeah, they saw me before I saw them It's how round to get on you gotta get in there to clock them, bro I Baby sugar is running at uh, he's running at what's that gun the bison I need stim so bad try to handle with the plane Oh my gosh They're all gone they all left Bro, that's so annoying I'm getting deleted. Oh, that's so annoying.  No, what's going on?  Yeah, my aim is this Oh They're coming this way. I don't know what my teammates are Yep, I got blown the bit smithereens that makes no sense for a spawn I spawn someone Angle Not really doing much of nothing. No one's hacking.   What's up? We in here was what up chat. I appreciate that Popping off. I was a little bit man. I was for a little bit. I love the trash talking, but yeah, man I was an average game too. Yeah, I wonder if I get the same lobby in here. I got to see something All right, yeah, y'all love the trash talk man trash talk is what make Call of Duty I think they're on the other team. Oh, did he walk? Yeah, he did walk very good.     I gotta control my aim much better.  I don't want to go that route. I'm gonna hit the plank. I'm almost out of ammo Yeah, I was trying to get them y'all Time to turn it up.  That's really not much they can do I'm cooking up right now. Oh, I died My neck here y'all Who's he about to do here? Oh? My god, what was that? Yeah, I wouldn't ran out there. Okay Okay Okay, are you going off? Yeah, they're having no oh my god. Oh My god, I was trying to get out of there y'all They don't make it no better My team got to kill people. What are they not doing killing people?  All right should be able to help him get this one They're not getting on this one. Yeah, they're not getting on this one Not even they wanted to They can't get on it I'm trying to provide defense for them Why is none of my teammates capping it? Get on there Oh 87 kills y'all Let's go This is the gameplay. I've been wanting to get for you guys We got to get this one go right side. I mean left side.  I got caught in the reload Yeah, I don't know why they kept running into it. Can I get the honey bomb on stream? The honey bomb on stream. Can I get it dog? Can I get the honey bomb on stream, man? Me and his other dude toe collected. He's dropping 82 I'm dropping 96. Can I get the honey bomb y'all? Let's find out Got the honey bomb y'all Drop the honey bomb That's how you do it y'all 105 Live on stream, man. I got to put this on the story, man Y'all post this on the story right now, bro Let's go I'm posting this on the story on my Instagram. Follow me on Instagram 105 24 deaths Live on stream. Let's get it. That's how you do it. Dubs in the chat, man. Dubs in the chat Finally did it live, bro Finally, man, that's the game I've been trying to give y'all for the longest, bro Y'all understand how hard that has been It's been very difficult Very difficult for your boy That was a good one y'all. I don't know if I want to play on this map. I don't really want to play on this map Went off, bro. I went off Ross, what's your favorite finishing move? Like in wwe My favorite finishing move would have to be I just always love the stunner, bro Stunning was always my favorite finishing move, but the f5 is pretty sick too From a visual standpoint that should look like it hurt. All right, let's see I probably got one more in me Because I kind of got to get ready to head on out So I got one more in me, man.  Let's find out, bro Whoo Just finished my game. Okay. Okay Well, I appreciate everyone joining in. Thank you so much for the love and support on my channel and in the clutch page like Rerunning it up.  All right, bro It gotta be the good map though Yeah, I'm trying to find me in one more match. I do not want to play headquarters the headquarters on that map Oh, that's dope So he was in so Kobe Bryant wasn't ducked into the hall of fame. That's pretty cool That's that's pretty dope. That was pretty. That's that's live Obviously, he should be in the hall of fame because It's Kobe Bryant, man There's a piece Kobe, bro Honestly didn't want to play this this map Hmm Let's do this. I just like I can't even get through it I don't know why I don't go this way.  There we go.   I could not hit him Whoa, how did he know?  What are you talking to? Oh, he's talking to me What do I do? I'm trying to figure out what I do How I'm not even close to it. Why does it keep bro?  Yo, how am I cheating? He's how am I cheating? Can y'all tell me how I'm cheating? Bro look at my Bro, I have the best team mate y'all. I want y'all to know this, bro Motherfuckers is not getting kills. Nobody's pushing up.  Yep, of course Of course they hit us with the flank Why wouldn't they hit us with the flank? I'm still trying to figure out why the dude think I'm cheating. How am I cheating? Why would I cheat on a losing team? Does that make any sense? That man to do got calm down, bro. I'm not even cheating. Look at my team Why is he over there? I don't know. Well, I can't even really go out there anyway.  Who's he talking to? I'm not even trying at this point. Look at my team. It's not as much I can do Like look at this Yeah We'll write a puppy. There's no point Shit, I'm really trying but there ain't nothing I can do. That was a bad name It's trying dog. Shit I gotta run one more. Yeah, he was they just kept going up there. I don't I don't know why they literally that's all they was doing just Peaking up there every single time. I'm way negative. I just dropped a hundred kills and then hopped in this lobby when having a hard time Dude accusing me of cheating I don't know how I don't know why I've achieved cheat on a losing team We're gonna try that again. I can't in the stream off on that that note Gotta be a better note than that I think roman is honestly keeping it but They will make so sorrow look very strong in the match.    I don't know At least a lot of my teams are pushing up.


When you reject the narcissist Hoover, maybe the narcissist discarded you Or you discarded them and then they try to come back again They Hoover you but you've decided that you don't want to deal with them anymore When you decide that you're finally done with the narcissist They will take it as rejection and they hate rejection because they want to be accepted They want to be seen as something special and important They want to be admired They feel entitled to it Regardless of how they treat you They need supply and they believe that you exist to serve them They want to be superior They always have to be right and they have assigned this role to you To prop them up, but you weren't put on this earth to be the cameo in someone else's movie Which is why it was such a miserable experience for you Because it's unnatural They insult you They put you down Every conversation you have with them becomes a debate They always reject your proposals and ideas So in the end You decide to reject them when you reject the narcissist Hoover You need to remember why you're doing it You need to remember what is best for you Because they're never going to self-reflect They're not going to look at everything they've done to you When people reject the narcissist It's usually a last resort It's a final course of action When everything else has failed You might want to sit down with them and talk about what works for you and what doesn't work for you But you know they're not going to do that You know they're not going to look at what they're doing They will be shocked that you even dare to confront them They will blame you as though it's wrong for you to even dare to question them Because everything is supposed to go their way But when you decide that you don't want to follow their agenda anymore They have a hard time accepting it They're afraid of rejection It causes a narcissistic injury It makes them very angry Because they feel like you are trying to hurt them When you reject their Hoover attempt It is a serious threat to a narcissist Because it may often leave them without supply So it will make them very angry It will make them want to punish you But in their minds they're just protecting themselves They will try to rationalize Why what you're doing is wrong And why you should listen to them They will justify all of their narcissistic behaviors But it just reminds you why you need to get away from them Because they just can't accept what they're doing wrong When you reject the narcissist Hoover They will ridicule you They will subject you to contentious and dismissive language of behavior They will provoke and challenge you with insult or remarks They will be very sarcastic If you bring up any of their faults they will make false accusations against you They will criticize you They will bring up things from the past When you reject the narcissist Hoover There's nothing you can tell them They're not even listening to you It's not going to make them reflect on themselves And realize there's some things they need to change They're never going to think that way When you reject their Hoover They will change very quickly They will treat you like you're nothing But they're not going to accept that you don't want anything to do with them Sometimes they may even stalk you Or they will want to know what you're doing or where you're going They may start a smear campaign When you reject the narcissist Hoover They will put you through hell I'm not saying that you shouldn't reject their attempts to come back But you need to be aware of what might happen Because they don't know how to move on They don't want to take responsibility They're not going to hold themselves accountable for their actions Which means that they're never going to change They don't care about what you're going through They're not going to be vulnerable with you When you reject their Hoover It makes them feel vulnerable But that's what makes them so angry Because then they just go into that mode Of what they think is them just trying to protect themselves Because they're afraid of vulnerability They're shame based people Who are doing everything they can to avoid reflecting on their shame So of course They will project that shame onto you When you reject the narcissist Hoover You need to understand what the narcissist is capable of Because many of these things may come at you But don't waste your time Trying to get the narcissist to understand They're not going to hear your side of the story They're never going to listen to you Remind yourself what you need to reject them Remind yourself that you don't deserve to be treated like that You deserve better And you know that you can do better You know there's more to your life than just being their source of supply You don't want to be their emotional punching bag anymore The narcissist may keep Hoovering you Because they think you're under their control Because they've assigned you to this role of serving them But you can choose to not serve them anymore Thank you for watching I hope this video resonated with you Please like, comment, share and subscribe If you would like to donate My PayPal link is in the video description Coaching inquiries You can email me at coaching.narcsurvivor.uk Thank you for watching and I'll talk to you soon


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Okay, here we go. Welcome again everyone to tonight's installment of Laugh Out Loud. I'm Dan, he's Bijan. He's actually at the Playhouse tonight. So we're, are we streaming? I don't know if we're streaming, but... Hold on, I'll do it. We're talking tonight about, we decided, this one was picked because even though we're a week late for Veterans Day, we decided to do a military comedy. And so we picked Stripes with Bill Murray and Harold Ramis. And this movie actually has quite a bit of an interesting pedigree because Bijan, as I know you know, Harold Ramis, you know, before he really became an actor, he was the screenwriter, one of the screenwriters for Animal House, and he was the writer and director of Caddyshack. And he had worked with Bill Murray on Caddyshack, and they had a whole, you know, they were very close friends and had a whole working relationship. And Ivan Reitman, who directed this film, would then work with the two of them again on Ghostbusters. So this is sort of like three quarters with, you know, without Dan Ackroyd. Well, Ghostbusters too. Yeah.  Like I had it, we had it down pat, like the whole thing memorized, which was a long, longer time ago than I care to remember. But you know, it's considered to be like one of those movies, along with Caddyshack, that kind of broke Bill Murray. Because before this, the only movie he had really been the featured star in was Meatballs. If you remember Meatballs about the summer camp, where he's the head counselor. And then, and then this one. So this is like this is like only the second movie that he's ever been in, where he's been the featured lead. And because of that, you know, they wanted to, the original idea was Ivan Reitman was going to make a Cheech and Chong movie. It was supposed to be like Cheech and Chong joined the army. And that was the idea that he pitched. And what ended up happening, the reason it didn't become that was because the guy who was the manager for Cheech and Chong, without them knowing it, decided that like part of the deal he wanted in the project was that if they did the movie, they would get a percentage of like the next five movies that Ivan Reitman directed. And he was like, There's no way I'm going to ever I mean who in their right mind would do that. So that ended up getting passed along and then he realized that he had Bill Murray. And he originally wanted Dennis Quaid to be the other guy, the Harold Ramis part was gonna be Dennis Quaid, who incidentally was married if you remember the two, the two female MPs. Yes. And PJ souls Sean Young is one of them PJ souls is the other one. At that time Dennis Quaid and PJ souls were married. They were they were husband and wife. But he's actually, you blink and you miss him but in the graduation scene Dennis Quaid is like one of the guys in the crowd like you can like, you have to like freeze frame to find him. But he's there because they figured let's just stick them in the in the crowd scene. But they got Harold Ramis because it really it was Bill Murray insisted on Harold Ramis because he figured that Harold Ramis could get him through like a lot of its improv. And he was just more comfortable with him and he figured that you know Harold Ramis knows how to feed me dialogue and circumstances and so like so much of it is improvised like almost every scene. The scene where they're taught they sit around they introduce themselves, and they talk about who they're like all of that's made up on the spot. The bit where the scene where they have a confrontation he has the confrontation with the sergeant in the bathroom, which like the one serious scene they were actually going to cut that out but they left it in just to kind of show that bill Murray could act. Yeah. That was 1000. Yeah, I mean almost all of john candy stuff was improvised. Everything when they got their haircut. Ivan rightman didn't tell these guys that they were actually going to get buzzed.  But if you follow the threat I mean you think about all the people who made this is like their first movie bill Paxton is in this movie. I don't know if you remember seeing bill Paxton and he's one of the soldiers. Like he has no yes, no lines bill pass. Right judge or judge Reinhold. Reinhold is the guy actually because like when they when it got, when it was no longer a Cheech and Chong movie, they took all the stoner jokes and gave him to judge Reinhold. Yeah, you can kind of tell that those two characters though, like, you could almost swap out Cheech and Chong. Right. Right.  John Deal, I don't know if you probably didn't watch Miami Vice like now when you were a kid, but John deal was the guy who plays the cruiser who's like kind of the really stupid one. Yeah, he was like he played this he was on Miami Vice for like several seasons and he played like this real intense cop. So like it's a complete 180 from the party plays in this. You know, and I remember like, when he showed up on Miami Vice, I was like, oh cruisers in this. And like it's the same. It's like it's so opposite from when he did he was a great actor he's still around he still works. And Warren Oates is the sergeant and Warren Oates was the guy. He did like tons of Westerns he was in the wild bunch. Like he made like all these big he was like a kind of a Clint Eastwood light type character. Like they brought him in because he was like the series he was the heavy you know he's like the serious actor. And, and there's a bit where, where remember where he gets dragged through the mud. That part, like, they didn't tell him they were going to do that like Ivan right and didn't tell him and like after he did it he like, was ready to kill him like they almost came to blows because he's like I'll do it if you asked me to do it.  And the great thing about Warren Oates is that when you watch the scene where they're talking about like each other themselves and Bill Murray is going on. Warren Oates can't stop laughing you watch his face, because it's improvised right he doesn't know what's coming and he keeps, he keeps laughing. So they kept trying to do it like over and over and over again where he like you know you keep the stone face, and they couldn't do it. And there was a there was another subplot that they were going to have because you know he gets injured never gets injured during basic training. Yes. The original script, he was going to get killed. And then his twin brother was going to show up and like be the second half of the movie.  We can't even, we can't even justify that. But like, they filmed they actually had permission. They had permission from the army to shoot at some bases that they shot in Louisville at Fort Knox, and a couple of other places, which they were shocked by because they're like they think they had a script like the army does not come off like so great. But I think they were trying to like, they were trying to show that they had a sense of humor. And so like they let them do it. And so a lot of the stuff you see in the background is completely real like except for the actors, and they drilled them like they were actually going to be in the military.  Like they're talking about his character in stripes and he says like, and there's a I'm trying to remember what the exact line was they said something about how he gets he was stationed in Alaska. But it's happening to his character in the movie. He gets thrown to Alaska. And actually, and Kirsten who's listening in says she joined the army because of this movie. That's amazing Kirsten I know you're in the military. That's a better experience. That's right. So, so, so Kirsten if you if you want to chime in. Oh it's her husband okay sorry. I guess we should we should say, you know how how accurate we should ask how accurate was it. The experience. But you know, and then the whole thing about the Winnebago like the suit up with a bag of like they've been that thing was awesome. It was that's where it kind of like it kind of goes off the rails a little bit. Yeah, and then crossing over the border.  Like, it was all about, you know, it's the same principle that these two guys who should never be in the military, or however whether are in the military and like what happens when they, and inevitably, they become you know, actually decent soldiers and there's some he says, the answer is they thought it reflected the army in a good light I agree. I think they I think they actually did a pretty good job. Yeah, it's like underdog story because I really liked how you know they're kind of like the typical, you know, slackers but they've got potential, and they end up turning it around to finish the basic training. Right, right and that whole thing do a diddy dumb now every time I march. So they say, I mean, apparently john candy was the only guy who knew all the words that song, like, yeah, teach you to teach them but they used it. He said they started using it I guess, and maybe they can, you know, we can get this verified that they use that now because of the cadence. Yeah, actually use that now. Yeah. So the movie, the movie actually started something. But you know, I've been writing you know they went out they went on to do Ghostbusters and Harold Ramis and Bill Murray, you know, did Groundhog Day. And they were like you know they were very very sympatico in terms of how they thought. And, and they, and Harold Ramis had never really been an on screen actor. In fact, you know, except for, except for this and Ghostbusters.  Yeah, this was before Ghostbusters right yeah the Ghostbusters was like the next thing they did after this. So they went from this to Ghostbusters. It was a good job though I thought he was a really good. I mean he's the perfect, you know, like it works with his, you know, deliveries and countering Bill Murray is a bit of a straight. Yeah. I mean but there's a there's a ton of little references that they make also like, again, because a lot of it was supervised the mud wrestling scene where John can he gets much wrestling the women completely improvised. And that's for sure. Well he didn't really didn't want to do it like they had to talk him into doing it like he really really didn't want to do it. Because John candy really had I mean what if he'd done at that point he did in the Blues Brothers he had that one little bit. But a lot of these guys were from sc TV, like Harold Ramis was from sc TV. And there are a couple of guys like Dave Tom, Dave Thomas he's the other half of the Mackenzie brothers. Yes, he's in this is his first movie. Yeah, he's the emcee right. You have, you know, Joe Flaherty who was the guy from sc TV played the count. You don't remember that either but he's he's got a bit part. So they drew on that you know that core SNL National Lampoon sc TV group so you know, a lot of people, you don't think of it as being one of those movies because it's not a National Lampoon movie like caddy shack was or animal house or vacation. But it's still because it has so many of the same actors people think of it that way. And, and, and the, you know, the, if, again, if you watch a lot of TV like I watched a ton of TV when I was a kid like a lot of these actors were typecast playing military roles. So the guy who plays the Colonel. There's a couple of guys who play will play officers who showed up on the team. They were military officers on the team because like they were typecast. You know, it had it had far reaching effects but I always wonder like, you know, judge Reinhold did went to do fast times original hi and and Conrad done Conrad done is the guy who plays psycho. Right.  Actually, he became like he's a very, very well respected stage actor, like, but everybody knows him from this. So like, I mean, it's got to be so impossible. You know, I like it must be like, I don't know, maybe he's learned to live with it. But like, it must be so disheartening to be like such an accomplished actor like on so many different soap operas. And he was on, you know, he's been like a lot of dramatic roles and like the thing that they remember him most were probably is this psycho. But you know the whole Bill Murray thing, like, they tried to you remember the beginning where he like, like his girlfriend dumps him he loses his job like all these things are happening to him. And they were trying to showcase him.  And so like, you know, people some people argue about which one of them was funnier and who was the better comedian but like Bill Murray as always even now I mean you see if he's done it a lot and like the last several years, like he does a lot of more dramatic parts, like, you know, like he never lost in translation and so like they were trying to like not have him be just like a complete goofball. And he made a couple of movies. Actually, Bill Murray in between this movie and Ghostbusters makes a couple of different movies where like he's trying to be like serious. And he makes this movie called where the buffalo room where he plays Hunter s Thompson. Yes. Yeah, that's the other Hunter s Thompson movie besides the other one. Yeah, right. And Peter Boyle plays like his. Yeah, it's like lawyers. Yeah, I forget what he did. He did a he did a remake of this movie from the 40s called the razor's edge which was a straight drama like I mean like no one.  They didn't. It wasn't popular like nobody really wanted to see a minute. So he ended up going back and doing stuff like Ghostbusters and all the stuff that followed but that's why in this movie they tried they kept that scene with the George in the bathroom where he tries to punch him and the whole bit at the beginning where he like he's lamenting the fact like I'm going to be dead before I'm 30 you know, and he actually was just turning 30. But he was was like 30 so like a lot of people speculate that like oh my god he really is talking about himself. And like Harold Ramis is like his lifeline. You know, and there's a whole there's a there's a whole bit of stuff that you can get I think you can find it on the DVD, like deleted scenes that got later intercut into the movie that you see now. Yeah, I watched the extended version that was like, almost two some two hours and something. I was like, wow. So on that version so okay so this is you saw it so on that version did they have the bit at the hotel like when when they go to Europe and they go a wall with the two MPs. There's that whole bit where they go to the hotel right yeah they're like they're in the hotel when they find out that the squad. So like there were scenes that they shot in the hotel that in the original version, they intercut to be like the scenes from the general's house remember when they go into the general's house. Yes, and they like you know kind of like mess it up. They took shots from that and they kind of spliced it together. So, but you would never know that unless you watch the extended version. Yeah, and, and I've been writing on the commentary was talking about how like the girl I mean they hired Sean young you know Sean young was in Ace Ventura. He's been a lot of stuff. Like this was her this was her first movie really to and they cast her because she had like you know they thought she had this very very innocent looking face. And then at the end when they show you know what happens to them after they land. She's the one who's on the like it's like the vehicle to RV magazine. PJ souls on the cover of penthouse. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And john candy's on the cover of tiger beat. Yes. So, and they were, you know, all those like you know what what happened to them after after this bit. But Sean young, you know, she wanted to, she's probably most people remember who she is now. It's because she wanted to be cat woman. That man returns and she lobbied like she went off the deep end like she lobbied Tim Burton to be cat woman, and like was like stalking him in the costume it was crazy like she she she lost her mind. But this is her first movie. It's PJ souls his first movie. I mean they got so many people who were really just television actors. But my favorite, my favorite is still john candy because he was just, you know, so for someone his size to be doing all that stuff. And then, I guess you know they utilize the whole thing about when they make them that you know we're going to go on a ton of five mile run now we're doing 10 miles. Yeah. And then they have and then when they do the whole graduation drill, because they overslept. That whole routine, the choreography if you watch it. Like, they really, you know, it was like dance. Yeah, they were pretty insane too for what it looked like it was a really cool like little production they I mean I have to believe that if they if there was no I mean it stretches you know the realm of plausibility they could ever get away with that. But if you look at when this movie came out. There was a stretch like in the early 80s early to like sort of mid 80s, when you had a lot of movies about the military coming out so like you had private Benjamin, and then there was this one.  But it was real like there was a stretch where like every year, they were doing either service comedies or like serious films about like Vietnam they finally started making serious moves about Vietnam like, you know, after the deer hunter and all that. There was sort of like this change in attitude that, you know, some people, some critics are sort of like, well, they're trying to sort of, you know, show that, you know, the military is human, which I think comes across very much in this. The flip side, the mirror side, which is, you know, like movies like platoon, where they were like, we're going to show you how horrible, you know, the whole experience is. But we know to get a guy like Warren Oates and some with his pedigree, like is what gave it like some gravitas because I mean his, his filmography. I mean, he, you know, he did, I said before he did all these like westerns and the most famous one he was in was The Wild Bunch, which was like the first movie that really was like made like the late 60s and it's the first movie that had like the violence that you see now, like we take it for granted it was like, it was like a Tarantino movie that got made in 1969.  And it like it broke all these barriers like kind of after Bonnie and Clyde, Bonnie and Clyde had a little bit of that but like The Wild Bunch was beyond. And Warren Oates is one of them.  And there's like this big shoot out at the end. And so like, he has that craggy face. You know, like the weather beaten face that he got from being in all those westerns outside. And so like he was, he was a real serious actor. He, he passed away like not too long after this movie was made because he had such a he was like so worn down by life. But you know, without him I mean that they talk a little bit about who would have played that part. If it hadn't been him. And some of the names that they toss out like you just, you can't picture. You know, one guy was like, you know, Ernest Borgman, who was also in The Wild Bunch. He was another member of that. Like you can't, you just can't picture it, you know, like he owns that part so well. I was concerned when they blew him up. Right. And then, but you remember, the only reason that happens is because John Larraket orders the guy to fire the mortar. Yes, without without like aiming it like that direction. Right. But we don't know where it's going just fire the weapon. And the guy who plays, you know, there was a lot of tell these guys all went into television, the guy who played. John Larraket's assistant, the corporal. John John Volstead, he was on that he was on that show with Bob Newhart where he plays one of the back woodsman. And people might remember like they always came in they never talked. The guy says you know I'm Larry this is my brother Darrell this is my other brother, he was the other brother Darrell. And so like he had that face that really recognizable character actors face. And notice at the end of the movie, he actually has been promoted he goes from a corporal to a sergeant he's got three stripes, and John Larraket's gone from being a captain to a first lieutenant he's been demoted. You know, like, I love when they drop these little like Easter eggs in there I mean now they're called Easter eggs but like when they would drop these little things there to see if you would notice. I think you have to watch the movie. A lot to notice these things. And this is a movie I watched a lot. I watched a lot. Like every time it's on television. I always I at least watch the graduation scene, because you know that's just the most famous part that was the whole trailer was built around that if I remember back when I was a kid. So I had, what was the other, there was another Easter egg that they had. Where Joe, the scene where John Larraket spying on the women in the shower, which again was improvised. He says, he says, his line is he goes I wish I was a loofa. Yeah. So like, I've been right and didn't know what a loofa was like he had to explain it to him like keep it in keep it in. This is what it means this is what it is.  But he, he shows up in movies, where he plays like he's in this movie blind date with Bruce Willis. He's the first like starring role as a comedy. And he plays sort of like the other BX boyfriend of the guys date at the moment he's dating. And he always he's always hysterical. And, and I don't know like where he's been lately like he's kind of he does. He still works but like, he's not as prominent as he used to be back in the day and I always wonder why because I always thought he was really really great and there was a lot of these guys ended up on the West Wing right so John deal was on Miami Vice, John Larraket ended up on the West Wing Timothy bus field is in this movie. He plays one of the plays the guy who was going to fire the mortar ended up on the West Wing. You know, like, I guess if you get these big enough cast and these guys hang around long enough, they all start to show up like in everything together. I mean, I always thought it was it was fantastic and I you know it's, I remember going to see meatballs because I that was the first time I was, I was way too young to stay up for Saturday Night Live like back back then but like I remember Bill Murray from meatballs. And then when this movie came out, I'm sure I probably was not old enough to see it but somehow I got into see it.  And then, you know, certainly Ghostbusters is the one that everybody, everybody, everybody knows all the lines from Ghostbusters. I had a proton pack when I was, I'm sure, and it's too bad, you know, and Harold Ramis is no longer with us, which is really a shame because you know all the greats I mean Groundhog Day, Ghostbusters and Groundhog Day alone would be enough. You know, you're throwing caddy shack and animal house and some of the other stuff that he did and he, you know, he tried his hand a little bit at doing like more serious stuff and which is all right, you know, just, it's just not the same you know he had that really like sarcastic, you know, sense of humor, satirical sense of humor. And, you know, there was a point where there was a point before he passed away that he and Bill Murray did not speak for many many years. Because I think they had, they had come to some sort of disagreement over Groundhog Day. And I think it was over the idea of whether Groundhog Day was like a comedy, or was it a philosophical movie. It could not agree and it kind of ruined their friendship. I mean, of all the things that you could argue about, you know, what difference does it really make. But, you know, I guess they reconciled at the end but you know it's a shame that he's not around anymore because I can only imagine what kind of stuff like they would be doing. You know, the new, did you ever see the trailer for the Ghostbusters reboot, not the all female version the other one. Because it's supposedly it's like the official the officially sanctioned reboot. And it's supposed to follow like it's supposed to pick up where the original first two movies left off. They have a new one coming out. And that's the one if you guys are watching, find the trailer on YouTube. That's where they drive to like the barn. And yes, Paul Rudd and Paul Rudd is in it.  But it follows like it's his it's his family. It's his character's family living out in the Midwest somewhere. And they start experiencing like supernatural phenomenon. So it's the same, you know, like universe as the first two movies, but it looks a lot darker. Like it's not. It's not like this slapstick comedy I think it's more like a horror comedy. But the trailer looked great I don't know whatever. I mean, with everything else going on in the world, Lord only knows what happened to it or when it's going to ever come out but the trade if you find the trailer on YouTube, it's really awesome. I think that you know we should just we should mention, by the way, because we have talked about this before that with everything else that's going on in the right now, especially locally with the uptick in cases. We are still going to be virtual for a little while. We're going to be doing these and our classic Tuesday series and a few other things online. But that being said, our cafe is operational. We do have a few other things that we're going to be able to do. So, if folks are interested in those we have tomorrow night is the wine tasting. And then Saturday is the Copia cocktails and cornucopia with the Bedford flower shop. That'll be a lot of fun and there's still spots available for that. We have a more bourbon tastings coming up in the next couple of weeks. Tuesday, classic Tuesdays we're going to be doing the African Queen, which again will be virtual but that is available for free if you go to our website the link there takes to a fritz. We're going to be viewing of the film Humphrey Bogart and Catherine Hepburn really really great movie John directed by John Houston who did the Maltese Falcon and so many other great movies. It's a movie that one Humphrey Bogart is only Oscar. That's a real that's a real great one great adventure movie. That'll be a lot that's gonna be a lot of fun to talk about because there's a lot of different stuff that was going on with the making of that movie. That movie has backstories, backstories, which are going to be fun to talk about. Yeah, films coming out also. We got tomorrow we've got team Marco, which is looks like an awesome film about a kid playing bachi with his grandfather. It's a little bit more than that but that's the overall and then we've got modern persuasion which is the retelling of a Jane Austen film it's modernize which looks really good. And then we've got a documentary called Soros about George Soros and Jungle Land which is a boxing movie in a nutshell but all films look really good. And I'm not just saying that because when is when we get in front the Frank Zappa documentary. That's gonna be great. The Zappa documentary is next week. It's the 27th. Right so next week. And they just told me to their, when you purchase the film, they're actually is going to be bonus content of concert footage you can exclusive content, concert footage that you can watch afterwards which got really excited because I am a huge Zappa fan. Yeah, me too. That's gonna be great. You know, Abhijan, I know Kirsten is still has also commented that they came to see Harry Potter when we were open for a bit we will we will reopen again we will. We totally will we're actually to be to be completely honest we were being a little proactive this time around because we wanted to just be sure that everything was was safe and in place and you know hopefully by the time we get past the holidays, and we'll be able to start ramping back up and start doing these either. Hopefully in the theater again. Well, we will be able to do them in the theater again, but offering them in some sort of hybrid fashion as well so it's not going to be completely mandatory that you come in to see some of these we are going to stream them as much as we possibly can so thank you very much to everybody for tuning in. We'll be back on Tuesday for the African Queen. But if not, we will be back next month we're doing we're doing Christmas Vacation next month I think right. Yes, that's our last I was going to be Christmas Vacation, which is always always fun another classic. That is a national lamp movie, as we all know. And certainly deserves to be mentioned in the same breath with a lot of other holiday classics that we're going to be showing and streaming and talking about so. We're very safe and happy Thanksgiving if we don't see before that but hopefully we will have a good night everybody.


Personal Finance PowerPoint Presentation. Medicare Part A. Prepare to get financially fit by practicing personal finance. Insurance is part of our long-term risk mitigation strategy where we follow the adage of measure twice, cut once, put it a formal process in place looking something like setting the goals, develop a plan to reach them, put the plan in action, review the results and repeat the process periodically. Most of this information can be found at Investopedia Medicare Part A, which you can find online. Take a look at the references, resources, continue your research from there. This is by Julia Kagan, updated November 30th, 2021. In prior presentations, we've been taking a look at insurance in general, moved then to the medical insurance, which can be more complicated due to the medical system itself and the laws and regulations around it and the related insurance to it. Now we're looking at the Medicare Part A in conjunction with that discussion. So what is Medicare Part A then? Medicare Part A is one of the four components of the federal government's health insurance program for older adults and other eligible people. Medicare Part A helps pay for bills related to inpatient hospital stay and procedures inpatient care in a skilled nursing facility, hospice care and home healthcare. It covers expenses such as semi-private rooms at skilled nursing facilities, as well as inpatient care, supplies and drugs during a hospital stay. Physical and occupational therapy in your home, if you are homebound, is also covered for terminally ill patients, doctors, services, medication and grief and loss counseling for the families are covered.  So in other words, you're paying into the system when they're taking money out of your wages, for example. So you'd have your gross wages, they take out the payroll taxes, which includes the social security, Medicare, federal income taxes. And so you're basically paying for it in that way and therefore hopefully automatically enrolled when qualifying for the Medicare, which for most people is Medicare Part A that is once they're age 65. So this means you're already paid your premiums through the 1.45 Medicare payroll tax that you and your employer each paid on all of your wages. I like how they're stating it here because it's not free, right? You're not paying for it at that time. You pre-paid for it through your entire career. Obviously we might not have paid enough for it to cover everybody on Medicare because notice these systems are kind of as-you-go type of systems, meaning because especially now with the older population being larger than possibly the younger populations going into it. The money that's going into the system is going right back out to pay. It's not like it's coming out of a fund necessarily, but you still paid into it. That's the point. You paid into it for quite some time at the 1.45 and so did your employer paying into it for some time as well as the employer on the employee side. You might have also paid into it through the self-employment tax where you're paying kind of twice that rate because you're paying the employer and employee portion. So if you don't pay this tax during your work in years, you do pay premiums as much as $499 per month in 2022, 471 for 2021. Younger people who receive long-term social security disability benefits also qualify for premium-free Part A. However, even when Medicare Part A is premium-free, most people will still have out-of-pocket expenses for copayment and insurance that you'll have to be dealing with in a similar fashion as you might be dealing with the insurance before you're on the Medicare type of situation. So Medicare Part A eligibility. In general, you're eligible for Medicare Part A if you meet the citizenship and residency requirements and you are age 65 or older, get disability benefits from Social Security or Railroad Retirement Board for at least 25 months. So in other words, if you're not 65 or older, you may still qualify. This is my interpretation. If you had some kind of disability, which they can determine if you're getting, say, disability benefits from Social Security or Railroad Retirement Board, get disability benefits because you have amatrophic lateral sclerosis. That's the ALS, also known as Lou Gehrig's disease. Just call it the Lou disease, the Gehrig's disease that I can understand that. What's with this lateral amatrophic thing? Have in-stage renal disease, the ESRD, and meet certain requirements. So how to sign up for the Medicare Part A? Many people are automatically enrolled when they qualify while others have to sign up for it. So hopefully for many people, you're saying you're just automatically, you're in, you're rolled into it. Why? Because you've been paying for like the last 40 years for it. So it's finally kicking in here. So in general, it depends on whether you've received Social Security benefits. So obviously if you're receiving Social Security benefits, that's another thing that you've been paying in for that you might keep benefits from. These two things can kind of, you can kind of determine them together to some degree because they're linked or they're similar in that you're paying into it with withholdings from the payroll taxes. So you may, for example, be enrolled automatically in Medicare Part A and Medicare Part B. If you have received benefits from Social Security or the Railroad Retirement Board for at least four months before you turn 65. So you've been getting paid from Social Security. So that's how they kind of know that's the triggering factor. Have received Social Security benefits for at least 24 months. Have Amatrophic Lateral Sclerosis, ALS, also called the Lou Gehrig's Disease. I know that guy. He played some kind of sport baseball, I think. I didn't know him personally, but I should just call it that. So you will automatically get the Medicare Parts A and B when your disability benefits start. So if you have in-stage renal disease as the ESRD, you're eligible for the Medicare and can enroll in Part A and B or in Medicare Advantage Plan. If you choose Original Medicare Parts A and B, you will need both parts to get the full benefits available with Medicare to cover certain dialysis and kidney transplant services. Please, I don't wanna need that. I hope I don't need that, but in any case, that's there. So if you're interested in Medicare Advantage Plan, be sure to check that the healthcare providers you currently see or want to see in the future are in the plan's network. If you aren't automatically enrolled in the Medicare and you'll be eligible when you turn 65, you should sign up through Social Security during your initial enrollment period. This is a seven-month period that starts three months before the month you turn 65, includes the month you turn 65, ends three months after the month you turn 65. So if you need to get in on that window, make sure to get in on that window. Special considerations for Medicare Part A. Although Medicare Part A covers many hospital-related services, it doesn't cover everything, you know. Providers must ask patients to sign a notice before receiving treatment when a service may not be covered. This procedure allows the patient to choose whether to accept the services and pay for it out of pocket or refuse the services. So obviously you can't be tricking people, especially when we're getting older and we need medical services and we're dependent on these medical people, they can't be saying, they can't just say, well, this is covered. When it's not covered, they gotta tell you whether it be covered or not covered. So you know if you have to pay for it or not. So to be proactive about keeping your medical bills down, it's a good idea to find out before using a Part A service if Medicare will cover all, part or none of the cost. If Medicare won't cover enough of the expense, find out why. There may be an alternative that covers that would still help you or you can file an appeal to try to get the coverage decision changed on your favor. So you can determine what's not covered, you can then maybe see a workaround to see something that would be covered. And if you think it should be covered when they say it's not covered, you might be having the ability to go through an appeals process to try to change their mind. So the three reasons why Medicare Part A might not cover something are, so the general federal and state laws, so the state laws are just saying, no, apparently special federal laws about what Medicare covers. So this is the general kind of hierarchy oftentimes you have to go through within the legal system. So obviously, if you're in a gray area or something's covered, which in the medical area, clearly there's a lot of stuff where you're gonna say, they don't know what's going on, I need this kind of procedure. They say it's important. Some people may not think it's important, but my doctor thinks it is or something like that. If it's in the actual law as to whether it's covered or not, well, if it's black and white and it says right there, then that's the end of the road. That's what your appeal is gonna be based on, what the actual law is. But if it's not that clear cut, you might have special federal laws about what Medicare covers. And then, and so once again, you might then go to those laws, which then would be, if it's in the law and it's black and white, then it's pretty much, it is what it is you would think. Local Medicare claims processors assessment of whether a service is medically necessary. So now you're getting into the gray area, right? So what, who are you medical claims processor to say it's my doctor, my doctor says it's necessary and they are half more expensive. You know, this is where the gray area comes where you might have an appeals process in place. So one example of the service Medicare does not usually cover is custodial care in a skilled nursing facility help with basic activities of daily living, such as getting dressed, bathing and eating. For some people that need that full-time care, that's that long-term care kind of thing that isn't generally in the Medicare because the Medicare is more part of kind of a replacement kind of like the normal insurance which isn't really there for that long-term care kind of situation. So that's where possibly Medicaid or long-term care insurance which we've talked about in the past may fall in. So if it's the only care you need, so you must have more serious medical needs for Medicare to cover your stay at a nursing home. So the CARES Act of 2020, what did it do? On March 27th, 2020 former President Trump signed into law a $2 trillion coronavirus emergency stimulus package called the Coronavirus Aid Relief and Economic Security. Now, otherwise known as the CARES Act, everything has to sound like nice these days with their acronyms. So it's a care, you get it, like the government cares, even though I wouldn't depend on the government caring that much. But in case it expanded Medicare's ability to cover treatment and services for those affected by COVID-19, the CARES Act also increased flexibility for Medicare to cover telehealth services. So you can go online with your doctor now and they can, maybe they can't stick something in your ear but they can tell you maybe to stick something in your ear and then they can look through the camera at it or something, I don't know. But authorized Medicare certification for home health saving for physicians' assistance, nursing practitioners and certified nurse specialist increase Medicare payments for COVID-19 related hospital stays and durable medical equipment. For Medicare, the CARES Act clarifies the non-expansion states can use the Medicaid program to cover COVID-19 related services for uninsured adults who would have qualified for Medicaid if the state has chosen to expand. Other populations with limited Medicaid coverage, now we're talking Medicaid, not to be confused with the Medicare. So other populations with limited Medicaid coverage are also eligible for coverage under the state option. Is Medicare Part A expensive? It depends. For most Americans, Part A has no monthly premium because they or their spouse paid Medicare taxes through their career. So again, it's a kind of deceiving question because at the time you get it, you prepaid for it your entire life and it's still not enough to cover for everybody. And because actually when you're getting the benefits, the person that's paying for it is the person that is currently working. But again, it is kind of expensive because it's like one of the biggest budget programs on the federal budget that we're funding. So there is a cost to it. Just we should recognize that it's not free. It's not free. So if this is not the case, an individual will have a premium of up to $499 per month in 2022 and 471 for 2022. Regardless of premium costs, all individuals with Medicare will be responsible for additional costs like co-pays, co-insurance and deductibles. How do I sign up for Medicare Part A once again? Didn't we go over this? Yeah, but we're summing it up now. We're putting the bow on it, wrapping it together. So for many people, enrollment in Medicare Part A is automatic. It's just automatic for a lot of folks out there. This is the case for individuals who have received Social Security or railroad retirement. So you get the Social Security.  So board benefits for at least four months before the age of 65 or at least 24 months enrolled in our enrollment is also automatic for anyone diagnosed with, here we go, amatrophic lateral sclerosis, ALS, also called Lou Gehrig's disease. And then do I need any other insurance besides Medicare Part A? And they're gonna say, yes, we're gonna need that. That's the most direct answer that we get oftentimes because we're expecting when you ask a question like that, that's a yes or no question. With the depends, it depends. But no, we're gonna go yes here. Medicare Part A does not include coverage for every medical need. It does cover most costs for care at a hospital, skilled nursing facility or nursing home and for home health services. However, you will need coinsurance for other needs like dental, vision, doctor visits, prescription drugs and more. So we'll talk about some more of that stuff, including other Medicare stuff, because there's other letters there. It doesn't just stop at A on the alphabet. It goes B and it continues. So we'll talk more about it.


erent strategy. So If it pleases the mayor just one more point, I'm sorry I think it might be beneficial for the council to consider An additional direction to staff to return with Additional information on how this motion fits into the project charter Where there's opportunities to hasten the process How this might be a step to lead us in the direction that Staff articulated so we can continue to kind of think about that process framework every time we return to this So you can kind of understand how long Potentially different decisions might take and how to best engage with stakeholders and the council and the greater public along the way Okay, so I appreciate the suggestion And we still have this existing motion on the floor for deliberation for action Also, I think you should provide clarity on number three because I think you amended it a little bit And I don't recall whether this is the Precise slang was just I just want to make sure So let's go ahead and move down the motion and if it doesn't necessarily If it passes it passes if it doesn't pass then we can go ahead and amend and have a different potential outcome Does that work for the council? But I think you could incorporate if it's a friendly amendment direct staff to Provide information on how to integrate this direction with the charter and that's It's the maker and the second accept that If so, we can just sure so So you're accepting to Direct staff to provide additional information on how the of above the motion above Um Can be incorporated into the project charter charter for transitional encampments And and that would be in addition to voting on all of the above it just Yeah, just voice that my concern with the project charter is the timeline and I believe councilman brown Also mentioned that the concern was with the timeline. So I am a little concerned about the Like does that mean that how does the how do these motions work into the timeline associated with the project charter? Because that's not the goal the goal is to move forward quicker than the project charter Because we need to see these solutions and I'm also really confused about the conversation of structure and strategy because there are proven systems that have proven structures that work In areas with a much larger populations than we have So I don't understand why we're getting bogged down in this In the process Instead of just being able to move with proven models that work in a data driven Okay, so what i'm hearing is maybe that there isn't the acceptance of number five Potentially because it's feeling not consistent with what the intentions of one or two through four is yeah, no Okay, so let's go ahead and vote on the motion And we'll just take it piece by piece and if the majority of the council's supportive we can move forward Is that feel appropriate? I just sorry. Yeah, no go ahead. I'm just wondering if Number one and there is going to be a problem because we know number one is already voted. I've been voted So it's really two through five. Okay, so two through four two through four Could do we want to vote on that all in one? Okay, so all those in favor of the Items number two three and four. Please say I Any opposed No, I don't um, I feel that we need to have the charter personally. So I feel Can we make an additional motion? That motion passed I'm sorry. We wait this we voted on two through four. Yeah. Yeah, okay So that those passed. Yeah. Okay. So that passed. Can we just get a record of the votes? Sure. Was it unanimous? No, I voted against On on two through four because I feel personally that number five is probably the better approach And it feels that isn't really consistent for two through four for me. I lost track. I'm getting tired. I thought five was part of it The five was removed Then I'm going to be a no on this as well. Maybe we can clarify I believe the idea was with respect to five was that it would it would work in conjunction with three In other words, it just provided additional information as to how number three fits in with a project charter So they're they're not necessarily different things. It's just that We would go ahead and Ring bang the ordinance, but then we would just provide more information as to how the ordinance Fits into the project charter for your information And my understanding was that that was not accepted at this time. Yeah No, just because of the timeline associated with the project. I don't want it to come back I just want to qualify the purpose, right? I just don't want to come back. So so based on the Follow-up comment by councilmember mires. I'm Assuming that the record will reflect two no votes Mayor Watkins and councilmember mires and five votes in favor Two more motions are about to get made. That's my sense at least and which would include So number five is going to be coming to us, right? Yeah, that's right. I would like to which is okay All right, so three to four Yes, so two two four was five two go ahead. I'd like to um add a make a motion With the language acknowledging a sense of urgency We direct staff to provide additional information on how the Elements of this motion are incorporated in in the In to the project charter. I'll second that Motion, okay any further discussion all those knowledge Urgency acknowledging a sense of urgency direct staff to provide additional information on how the above motion is incorporated in the project charter Okay, so that was a motion by councilmember matthew seconded by myself all those in favor. Please say aye. Hi. Any opposed So that passes with uh council I'm I'm sure if I captured your vote captain councilmember In support and councilmember crone councilmember mires councilmember brown matthew spice merecomings and myself in support and councilmember gloves against Is there another additional motion? Oh, uh, sure Wait Okay All right So this motion, um Remove the closure date at the gateway camp um and to revisit that when we have a better sense of um How many beds are when the additional services are are online? Second I'm not done Could body right could body right Could we get this written out could she write it out? Is he saying it? I can rewrite it because it's like on a page with a bunch of other notes um So remove the closure date at the gateway camp and to revisit the state As services come online Revisit the date as alternatives come online provide signage at the camp about alternatives including the vfw hall Salvation army And any other shelter or warming facilities and then move to revise the um the shelter crisis Statement to strengthen it given our situation second Okay, so that was a motion by vice mayor Cummings seconded by uh councilmember Glover um any further discussion Could I just if I could um maybe try to ward smith the the shelter portion to direct staff to bring back uh recommendations regarding revisions to the Shelter emergency resolution Recommended revision To see we know what it means, but just to clarify that so they will We'll come back with some recommendations to Yeah, please few Points of clarification or questions so So with the joint action plan that's obviously a both a board approved and a council approved plan And there's a tremendous number of resources that are being put into Not only Outreaching folks at the encampment around their sheltering opportunities, but building those opportunities and developing Kind of that path to transition for folks I would recommend there is a two by two committee meeting this thursday ensuring that This direction is brought back to the two by two committee In case there is a need to Modify the joint action plan as it relates to the coordinated kind of relationship between the city and the county because there is a ton Of operational coordination that's around that and then two It would be good for staff who's Working through the operations of this to Have a sense of the intentionality the overall intentionality to close With appropriate Shelter options so we can continue to move towards that because what i'm hearing with Posting signs that there's alternative shelter opportunities does not necessarily evoke People must move So I think we we need to have a little bit more clarity around that or you can have those discussions at the two by two But I think it's important Sitting from where i'm sitting trying to develop Kind of this operational plan, which quite frankly day by day is a new task That we kind of still have marching orders to complete Elements of those tasks for instance with the idea that we would return on the 12th with a full update as to the potential of Providing those suitable alternatives for folks I'll just I'll just agree that I think that is definitely something that Came to mind for me in terms of this motion Knowing that also we were going to be receiving an update on the 12th and given Any type of update that didn't necessarily result in Meeting the intention of having Available space so that we felt comfortable closing the camp by the 15th and we can make that modification at that time but that would also be in Collaboration with the county as originally designed so I I share the same Concern and that's why I won't support the motion as it is I I Respect the concern. I think one of the things that's been coming out of the camp and I also I think that We should be moving forward towards You know getting enough beds and spaces online so that we can Close that location and I'll say that there are you know, there are issues with it being at that location including Risks to public safety. We've heard from the Fire chief about how it's hard to get Like safety services like emergency medical services in there. There's environmental health concerns and so I think that What we're hoping Is that we do find these other alternatives that come online? And I think that the fear that's been coming through the camp and Concerns within the community are around the fact that the language that's been used is geared towards only Really focusing on closing the camp and not Providing people with alternatives and as a result people are on people who are in the camp and people who are in the Surrounding communities have expressed concern because what they don't want to see happen is that The services don't come a lot online. We have a firm date and then We shut the camp down and people are kind of scattering all throughout the city and that there's Termo at the camp in terms of it being shut down. There's been Talk about acts of civil disobedience and then the potential for the lawsuit around Matthews versus Boise and so I feel like for myself and for and I feel like I speak for A demographic in the community That if we have alternatives and we can say okay, we have you know X number of beds and This is what the city and the county have committed to and we're gonna We're gonna now set a date and we're gonna be closing the site down And I think that at that like at that time it's it's better to have A firm date because otherwise People are just living in this constant state of fear and I think that in the community It's been stirring a lot of tension as well Okay, thank you. So, um Thank you for the clarification. So we have a motion by councilmember vice mayor coming seconded by a councilmember Glover Further discussion council. Can we separate the motion? How would you like to have that motion one is remove the closure date and Revisit the date as alternatives come online. I think that's one Motion and then providing signage about alternatives and revising the shelter crisis statement The second motion that's that that works for me. So let's go ahead and vote on the first motion I'll invite staff to include any language in that signage about like the closure of the camp So, okay So all those in favor of item number one Which is to remove the closure date of the camp and revisit the date as alternatives come online. Please say aye Opposed no no So that passes with councilmember crone, Glover, brown and vice mayor comings in support councilmember matthews councilmember mires and my and myself voting against I have a question on that action I am concerned about the fact that this is a departure from our jointly adopted agreement with the county And I'd like to get suggestions from staff on how we can send as strongly worded as possible Um indication to the county that we intend to move quickly. We intend to Prioritize the the projects that you're working on right now to get those additional sites online I don't want them to think santa cruz is bailing on you. So And we can go ahead language on that And just also as an fyi. I will be meeting with the two by two this later this week So we can go ahead and also express that but I think that official message has come from the council Okay, do you feel does the council feel comfortable with that? Yes, okay So we can work on language reiterating our interest in continuing to move in Concert with the county. Can I just make a motion that the council would vote upon? Can we let's vote on the second one? Okay Let's finish this. Okay. So all those in favor and items number two and three. Please say aye. I Any opposed could that passes unanimously? Okay, go ahead Um, I move that the council Send a clear message to our county partners that we are committed to prioritizing the elements of our joint agreement and Attempting to meet the uh target date For the uh camp closure I'll second that motion Any further discussion? Oh councilmember clever I'd add That in that statement to encourage the county to identify some potential safe parking places that have been Identified by the community like the drive-in or the Toys R Us parking lot Let's separate. I I agree with that, but let's separate them and that's something that we're already exploring at the I think it's already happening first. I heard about it. So I don't exploring other alternatives, right? Okay, so okay, well we'll keep that separate not accepted. Okay All those in favor of the motion. Please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay, that passes unanimously Is there a different motion at this point or do we want to Call it a night Let's make kind of make one statement for the record I'll go ahead and wait just one second. Were you preparing were you trying to prepare a mission? Yeah, I was just looking really quick We got the resolution taken care. We got the transitional encampments kind of taking care.  No, I'll pass. Okay. Vice mayor coming I just wanted to state for the record that Just the fact that I was in opposition of the closure or the pulling of the signs down on Delaware because as someone who works in that area and Had gone out and heard the concerns of the folks in that area. I just want to point out that that One of the reasons why I was uncomfortable with that site and one of the things I expressed to a lot of people in the community was that When we make these kinds of decisions We really need to make sure that we're reaching out to the community and involving them in the conversation because many of the people who Approached me about that. Some of whom are my colleagues that I've known for a very long period of time and People have been friends within this community for over a decade None of them felt like anyone had ever approached them and and asked them whether or not This would be something that they'd be okay with And we really need to make sure as people have said that we Are all working on this together and this isn't something that the city council is going to impose on any individual community without Going to those communities and discussing this with them. So I just want to make sure that that's on the record So just to confirm that there has been no action on the Delaware Proposal at this point that was brought up There was no motion to make that change and so at this point the council has not Made any kind of direction to pursue that so that for the community's sake for clarification that will not be moving forward Councilmember clever. Thank you. I just want to Make a statement kind of in response to vice mayor Cummings This process was designed to start the conversation because the conversation was not happening on a community level and Being able to identify what was going on. It's happening on an internal level here But we got a chance to hear from a lot of different community members tonight that came out to speak We got a chance to hear some solutions, which they may or may not have presented to us in Other opportunities and now we can continue to move forward in figuring out ways to engage the community, but I do want to caution the dedication to making sure we get every single opinion as opposed to Being able to move forward and actually protect people and make it so that they are Taking care of so I just want to emphasize that there it's not one or the other It should be a combination of two or removing expeditiously But at the same time realizing that every day that goes by while we talk about things People are suffering and dying on the streets So Thank you. We have a sort of a different understanding of types of approaches Unless there's any further discussion. I'll go ahead and Adjourned quickly quickly mayor just before the gavel We don't have any direction on public facilities and bathrooms If there's consensus on behalf of the council to move forward with the project charter process We can probably just leave it at that if I can make a motion. I would say so So maybe if somebody wants to move it, okay, so I move that we Continue with the project charter process for the public facilities Analysis and I'll second that motion I'm really sorry to ask this but what are the assumptions that I I have grave reservations about that And result of that um opening up parks and bathrooms So in terms of yeah, so the project charter does outline a process for which we get to Developing a transparent and consistent process for which we analyze potential closures So it you know, I think there was some intentionality about opening things immediately and having limiting the the parks director's ability to do closures It really is about working with the parks and rec commission to ensure that As we are making decisions that those thresholds around safety and health and the things and access Are clear and consistent. So it doesn't seem so arbitrary when we when the parks direct Parks director closes for purposes of safety infrastructure, etc. So it does lay out more of this Strategic process for which we are engaging with the multitude of stakeholders that might be involved No, no decisions would be made right away And just for clarification, it would be based on the charter language rather than I believe there was language Previously submitted. So it would be based on the charter process the key being the charter analysis and process. Yeah, okay Does that help? Okay. Okay. Any further discussion all those in favor? Please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Okay, that passes unanimously I will go ahead now and adjourn the meeting Thank you