So hello everyone for the next 25 minutes. I will keep people hostage from lunch And cover part of the observability space that has that we interact with every day, but we haven't developed on it much until recently There's been a lot of evolution in hotel and observability landscape in general and this area is no different No different and I'll be talking about metadata metadata is something that bugged me quite a bit over the last few months and I have lots and lots of thoughts about this I might not be able to cover most of it in this talk, but feel free to find me after the talk in the questions or at lunch Or later. I keep going Here's a quick agenda of what we'll be covering. We'll Again, we only have 25 minutes, so we might stick to the basics on some of these areas, but Find me after and we'll dig deeper. Now. What are we talking about systems? applications have become increasingly complex Distributed and Observability is essential at like every company team project. Everyone's working on observability now and that's where telemetry comes in, right? There's been a lot of tools and solutions that have been maturing over the last few years and There are three signals that are pretty commonplace like logs metrics and trace and I will for I will warn folks in advance when the AI was summarizing my slides to create my notes It said I was being very pedantic Which is true and in the next few slides specially I will be read I will be defining some things very pedantically because of two reasons I think it will be important when we start defining what metadata is and why it's important and Also because I am generally a pedantic person Another warning. I actually didn't know what images to use in my presentation So all the images are what AI thought I was talking about when it summarized my slides Yeah, but We've all interacted with logs in some way logs are time-stamped text records They could be structured they could be unstructured and they have some meaningful metadata associated with it Most programming most programming languages have logging capabilities. We've seen logs. Here's an example of some I pulled out from my VM Generally, it will have like a time stamp It will have a unique identifier in this case like the insert ID somewhere It'll have a bunch of severity fields of things that each observer you back end will have Be part of its structure and some JSON fields They could be independent. They could also be part of Traces as spans. We've seen spans quite a bit again. Don't blame me This is what I think traces are but it will learn Traces represent whole journeys of requests. We've just seen traces quite a bit and right now Spans have start times to have a duration and they have again some metadata associated with spans that help you contextualize Where bottlenecks are and what what's taking time? Traces again, let you This is what like a trace looks like you can look at how long a Service takes at different stages a user action how long a request takes at Several services and then the database AI is evidently not very good at spelling, but I appreciated the effort Metrics the the final signal we're talking about today It is a timestamp measurement of a service at runtime It consists not only of the measurement itself, but again some meaningful metadata associated with it and This is an example of a metric. We will actually Go deeper into this metric later down the slide deck, but this is like a CPU utilization metric It'll have a lots of information. It'll again have a timestamp. It'll have some metadata Like resource labels instrumentation scope labels and so on but this will make a little more sense hopefully near the end of the talk and That's kind of where we are now each of these signals are pretty well adopted I expect most people here to have interacted with maybe all three of them and But there's a problem in the OSS world like there's a lot of standardization Around each of these signals, but maybe not a lot of standardization to make the experience cohesive between them So think jumping from a metric For a high latency service to jumping to the logs for the service and then jumping the traces for that service Much of how we make the ergonomics easier for querying those things are what I think about when I'm working at Google Cloud That's that's me. That's who I am I'm Rodan Sharif. I work on observability tools and solutions for GCP Most of my work so far has focused on agents running on VMs I've worked on the open telemetry a little bit and but more recently. I've also been working on compatibility with open telemetry and Prometheus and getting it to run on like serverless environments like cloud run and Much of the work that we put in and a lot of the magic that goes into the observability experience and making everything ergonomic Has it has mostly to do with the compatibility between open telemetry and Prometheus and how those ecosystems work with the data models that power cloud logging cloud monitoring and cloud trace and So I've been thinking a lot a lot about how we build cohesion between these products and We saw from the definitions earlier. There are things that tie the telemetry signals together They're all time-stamped measurements of something that's happening at a specific time and they all encode some metadata I've mentioned metadata quite a few times. So I'll be pedantic again. Let's start defining what metadata is. I Actually tried very hard all the definitions we saw earlier were from like hotel docs and Prometheus docs Metadata is not a very well-defined term yet, but I've seen a few definitions out there. I put a few There are like just arbitrary key value pairs that Tell you what is being measured that is kind of the definition that the log definitions and metric definitions We're using before there's also data collected by a large social media company But that's a different kind of metadata that we're not going to talk about There's also data collected about The exposure of a telemetry the signals itself what's creating it the emitter of it But not necessarily about the signal itself, which is they're all kind of close But let's be precise now when we talk about metadata at Google and what I talk about in my slides Are any descriptive or supplemental information that helps you? contextualize your data and contextualize your signals they they're not being measured by the signal itself and not to change to those information affect the signal itself It exists to provide like high-level context and help you get a deeper understanding of the signals and There are lots of reasons why they're important Metadata typically is what you use to enrich your metric you enrich your signals being collected It allows you to make changes to metadata without actually affecting your your metrics themselves or your logs themselves You can associate Arbitrary user labels with your metrics you can group and filter by metadata You can your applications don't actually have to worry about Metadata that they're collecting instead they will focus on the signals themselves and you expect this kind of enrichment to happen after the fact and Again the most important thing to me at least is we use metadata to correlate Not just signals with each other not just logs with traces and traces with metrics, but also how we correlate signals to real-life entities This is kind of how we think about metadata often where application is the runtime the libraries themselves will focus on Instrumenting and collecting the signals, but the application might not be aware of what environment it's running in You know application might not be aware of what container it's part of or what pod or what environment what cloud provider all of this kind of information that is Not known or maybe doesn't have to be known by the application But it's super useful when you're quarrying and you're using observably back ends are the kind of metadata that I'm talking about and Those are those are the examples here, right? Like the geographical location things are running in your application and production is Is has different is alerting when your applications and tests aren't That environment information your instance name your version number any tags that you use on your machines are all metadata that you might want to have to use when you're quarrying but not necessarily when you're instrumenting and Now let's look at what some people what what people do Out in the world like what does from ethios do with metadata. I actually quite like from ethios from ethios has a very simple data model it consists of In large part two things samples and labels samples are just the metric the The value itself and the timestamp and labels are just key value pairs that give dimension to your metrics Metric name is another label for example. Oh, that's it. That's all there is It doesn't differentiate in its data model between metadata labels or metric labels or resource label or instrumentation labels at the end of the day, they're all just labels and They're all superhuman readable and this is the exposition format for what from ethios metrics look like I expect most people here have seen some That doesn't mean Prometheus doesn't have metadata though Prometheus is very well designed for like pole-based ingestion where The ingester or the scraper is generally aware of what it's scraping from and so and it'll do that using some service discovery Mechanism and the service discovery mechanism will give you a lot of valuable information a lot of valuable metadata to the person configuring Prometheus and This is the crucial difference when we this will expose a lot of this metadata as Meta labels labels that exist when you're scraping But the onus is on the person configuring Prometheus to actually add it to your metric if you don't add none of them are added By default so in this example if you're using the Kubernetes service discovery There are a bunch of like pod metadata and pod meta labels that are available that you can add it to your metrics Except you have to add them to your metrics and none of them they're by default There's we're not gonna go into how they're added There's a really nice blog post by burn Brazil that has a flow chart I like flow charts about how the meta labels are added to your metrics if you so choose I Didn't add them because it's it looks tricky and I don't like it This is how they interact with other labels that exist from the Applications themselves, and this is how eventually it'll all be part of the metric labels in Prometheus You might not always want all your metadata to be duplicated and exist on every single metric and every single signal So the open metric specification also has something called target info metrics Or info metrics. This is another way you can have metadata metrics be part of your data when you're querying them You can have a separate static value metric that exists Not to measure something but just to give you metadata So in this case you have the target info metric that gives you metadata about the environment like what environment is in What the host name is what the data center is what the region in front of the owner is and then if you want to use This kind of metadata metric in your queries You can have a metric and you can have a prom ql join with it on query time So this is an example of like an HTTP request metric that you want to filter with using metadata the metadata the Availability zone is not part of the metric itself But you can perform a join and you can filter by the region that you care about if you want to add more labels to your Dashboards are more labeled to your data. You can just add it to your group by and you you have the benefits of the metadata These are seen a little trivial queries though the second you start doing something a little more complex like here You're breaking it down by the 95th percentile broken down by availability zone Almost immediately your queries become complicated and that is how Prometheus does it. What does hotel do? We're gonna be talking about hotel quite a bit today A quick primer about what hotel is and what hotel isn't hotel is a vendor agnostic tool agnostic way of ingesting managing and exporting your data, but Crucially what it's not is it's not a storage solution. It's not a visualization solution You can have things be sent using the hotel protocol or OTP protocol to Observability backends you can use the collector to do a lots of processing like we've seen today and send to observability backends, but It's not an observability back-end Which means it it does have really nice data models. I like them It does define it does unlike Prometheus differentiate between signal signal attributes and Instrumentation scope attributes and resource attributes signal attributes like we talked about before or things that come from the signals themselves For example in a CPU utilization metric what the state of the CPU is that's a signal attribute signal attributes aren't metadata but the other two are Resources in hotel are immutable Representations of entities that are producing telemetry They are at the actual source of the telemetry that it's coming from so an example is if Something this producing telemetry is running on a container in Kubernetes. It has a pod name. It has a namespace It's part of a deployment which has a name all of that information Are part of the resource attributes It has another level of scoping called instrumentation scope instrumentation scope in hotel refers to what is the instrumentation library that is the logical unit in the application code that's Creating the telemetry or instrumenting the telemetry. This is typically the instrumentation library But you could add other things in there like the service URL or something that that is producing the telemetry and The metric we saw earlier had all of this the CPU utilization metric for example it has The resource information which tells you what location is coming from it has the instrumentation scope Which tells you this is the host metrics receiver in hotel producing the CPU metric and then you have the signal Information tells you like oh, what's CPU state? This isn't and then you have the timestamp and the values But again observe hotel is not an observability back in so even if its schemas are nice and I quite like schemas we often have to transform it and and to fit the conventions off the back end Which means if hotel is paired with Prometheus What do we do with all this fancy? information we have with resources hotel will actually start taking all these resource attributes and create the target info metric that we saw before in Prometheus and will send all of his resource attributes as labels in this metric So in this case you have the namespace the container the pod region all as labels in this in this target info metric and then You will join with it as as you would in Prometheus land Sometimes again, you don't want the separate metric Containing the metadata you actually don't want to deal with the joins in Prometheus Hotel you can use the collector and have these resource attributes added to your metrics using Processors like this one where you take the resource attribute and you move it to the metric attributes So that they're actually part of the metric itself and that's kind of like The problem I have with resources a little bit like I like the hotel's data model, but eventually What matters at query time is like what the data model that is used at storage or at query there are also other problems with resources in Hotel there's a lot of commingling of entities again the example We talked about where the resource contain the container information the pod information the region the cloud all of those are actually like different entities and there's no way in for us to Define like the smallest set of identifying information in hotel There's also a lack of precise entity. You might have a lot of attributes for signals that Identify a resource and a lot of attributes that give you information about it, but don't actually change the resource itself that is not supported in hotel yet there is No way to distinguish between identifying and non identifying attributes in a hotel You can have change your attributes. It's immutable, which means if I change my VM name I'm not actually changing the underlying resource, which is the VM, but a no tell that is a new attribute a new resource and then there's always High coronality issues when you have too many attributes to any resource too too many labels And a lot of back-end scan deal with that very well Now that we looked a little bit on the instrumentation side I with the time I have I'll go over a little bit of what some of our data models look like and how an Observability back-end will have a different data model Maybe surprisingly or unsurprisingly Google Cloud also has an idea of resources. They call it monitored resources and But the key distinction here is the monitored resource are the minimum set of attributes that uniquely identify an entity in This example we're looking at the GC instance, which is a VM and it only has three attributes It has the project ID. It has the instance ID and it has the zone All other metadata about the VM whether that be the VM labels even the VM name all of it is stored separately in a metadata API the monitored resource in Google Cloud for tracing for logging for metrics are the primitives that we use when we are ingesting it in our back-end This is an example of observability in context that where we use some of this information. So here I'll be filtering with It's some of the resources. I will be looking at my VM logs and when I look at it I can see the VM name even though it's not part of the The telemetry at all I can see the resource labels I can see what logs are coming from this metric from this log and then conveniently I can go and start looking at Metrics that come from this VM the metrics again has more metadata about like what What annotations it has what other integrations it has it I can drill down deeper. I can see all the metrics for this VM Within metrics to I can drill down into the metrics and look at how metadata is like a first-class citizen in some of our You I I can actually group by not just the system labels But also the metadata labels that are not part of the signals like in this case machine type I can filter by them and I can group by them as though they were always part of the metrics itself except they were not there and This is kind of why I wanted to do this talk because this is not magic actually what we do internally and Google He really similar to what the open metrics specification does We also store metrics as we also store metadata as metrics we also write the metadata as Static value metrics with the metadata being label fields and when you have a metric written to a monitored resource We will have metadata written as metrics and before your metrics are Showed to you in the query explorer in your dashboards we actually do a meta join and join them together and show you a joined view of the table and this is what powers a lot of our dashboards and a lot of our UI and This is why metadata in move cloud is treated Very similarly to the metric labels even though they're stored separately And that's kind of where we are now There's a lot happening in the evolution of metadata and all these ecosystems converging There's still quite a bit of work to be done but I think a lot of this work has to be done in open source and As the telemetry signals become more powerful and when they're used together We've covered only metrics today though logs and traces have their own solutions and they also have their own bespoke way of dealing with this and We don't have time to go with that. Also. It's almost lunch Yeah, hotel is doing a lot of things hotel actually is trying to deal with the problems with Resources they're working on this concept of identity of entities Prometheus is working Prometheus will improve how joins with target info work and make those more ergonomic There's a lot of stabilization happening of hotel components specifications There's a lot of semantic conventions that we heard about today that are all improving this experience rapidly And that's kind of where we are today We came from a world where the solutions for these signal types were pretty independent and arose from independent needs and then we started standardizing them and now we're making them interoperable with each other's ecosystems and I think we're headed to a world where we think about observability more holistically Profiling is becoming a popular fourth signal metadata is used to tie these experiences together and connect logs with metrics But this space still needs some maturing. I Was struggling to end this presentation. So I figured I'd leave with a few tips before a duck away for lunch Stick to conventions. I like schemas When they don't exist conventions of the next dusting also conventions are Basically schemas that we just agree on add metadata proactively. It helps your queries. It helps other teams It helps make sense of your data, especially when Things are stressful and you need to know what these metrics mean Again schemas are nice. I threw that in there because I do like schemas fight me metadata is pretty loosey-goosey right now. We need to develop scheme conventions around them Interacting with metadata is pretty bespoke monitoring has its own solution logging tracing have their own solutions and We saw what the definitions of the signals earlier. They all have things in common. They all have metadata. They all have timestamps and we really should have find a way to have a single source of truth for metadata that all the signals can interact with and That's kind of like I know timescale tried this with prom scale before and but maybe they're a bit ahead of time And that's it that that's all I have. Thank you for listening to me ramble


As the years have gone by and I've grown up, I've realized that the story cannot possibly be true, yet I can't shake the feeling that it is. It happened in Tokyo, in the subway station. I was standing with my father when I saw the demon, a monstrously tall and furry creature with leathery black wings and a snout like an anteater. I must have stared at him for close to 10 minutes before he finally spoke, in a soft mutter that was clearly intended for his ears only. This human is creeping me out. It almost seems like he's looking right at me. I am looking right at you, I said. The demon nearly jumped out of his skin. You, you can see me. Yes. Can't everybody? Not unless they're in the fifth dimension. Am I in the fifth dimension? I asked. Your mind must have slipped over here by mistake. What were you thinking about before you saw me? I thought for a moment, and then grinned. Trains. Oh, well, trains are the link between our dimensions. I guess your mind must have just wandered over here. Either that or you're going crazy. I hope I'm not going crazy, I said. Being crazy is a good thing in the fifth dimension, the demon replied. I laughed. Do you have subway lines in the fifth dimension? I asked. Of course. How else would we get to work? You've got wings, I said. Yes, but who wants to fly? Taking the train is so much faster. And if I fly to work, I'm all sweaty when I get there. So what do you use your wings for? I asked. I put them over my head when it rains. Can I see? Sure, the demon said.  I laughed again. Haha, you're funny, I said. The demon laughed too, but then his expression changed. Are you okay? I asked. You seem sad. Yes, yes. The demon replied. Not looking at me, but it's something behind me. Say, would you like to see a magic trick? Okay. The demon reached up and tugged a big rainbow handkerchief out of his snout. He must have pulled out 20 feet before he ran out. That's funny, I laughed. But I stopped when I realized I wasn't holding my dad's hand anymore. I looked around and saw the subway station had disappeared, replaced by flowing green meadows that were full of old trains. I can't see the subway station anymore, I said. That's okay. Sometimes it's better to see what isn't there, instead of what is. What do you mean? Sometimes when I'm bored or sad, my mind slips off to the third dimension and I see people like you. Can you go to other dimensions, too? But the demon didn't answer. He was looking up at the sky and starting to rain, he said, whooshing his wings up over his head. Warm droplets of rain hit my face. Can I get under your wings with you? I asked. Not now, he replied. You've got to go home. The world began to shimmer and flow together like different shades of green and golden paint, spinning around faster and faster in circles.  The world stopped spinning, but warm droplets of water still fell on my face. I opened my eyes and saw my mom crying over me, but I didn't see my dad. Where's dad? I asked her. Did he bring me home? Yes, darling, she said.  Oh, when will he be back? I don't know, she said. My dad never did come back and it was years before I found out the truth. He had killed himself that day. That morning he had written a note to my mother, explaining that he intended to bring me along and step in front of the train with me. My mother found it when she got home from work and called the police, but it was too late to stop my father. The witnesses say that just before he jumped, I pulled away from his hand and ran off, fainting right after. But one of the witnesses, a little boy around my age, said that he saw something take my hand and lead me away from the speeding train. He said it was a monstrously tall and furry creature with leathery black wings and an ant-eater snout.


Sea level rise is a measurable difference in water level over time and directly contributing to that is of course climate change. So as the temperatures rise, all our ice caps melt and slowly the water level rises throughout the globe. And there are localized impacts of sea level rise. In Hampton Roads we are particularly vulnerable to coastal flooding. Hampton Roads region of Virginia is the second most heavily impacted region in the United States when we talk about sea level rise after of course New Orleans. We're standing here at the Hague part of Norfolk, Virginia which is in the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay in southeast Virginia. This area we'll see what we call blue sky flooding quite regularly where there's no storm event and so this water comes up over onto this side, water breaches the bulkhead, floods the area around it and the road behind me as well. A lot of my research at the Virginia Institute of Marine Science involves the development of physics-based hydrodynamic models. These models tell us where flooding is going to happen before it does, when and for how long. You'll see all these individual structures here, most of them near the waterfront are inundated. The information provided by NASA satellites mostly allows us to validate the accuracy of our model in terms of telling us where the flooding actually happened from space. The maps that come out of the models are really useful at showing the depth of water throughout the city at the street level so that we can you know just make better data driven decisions around the city. These are two standard active remote sensors. This is an example of a pressure transducer water sensor and what we've been trying to do is compare data like NASA satellite imagery to see how it compares to the accuracy that we're getting at the street level so when you put it all together it's very valuable. One of the main applications is really trying to see before these events happen where it's going to be the problem areas in our communities. Determine what roads need to be closed or intersections need to be closed when. Where these projects should be permitted. Will this building last the 30 year life of the standard mortgage? Our models as a representation of reality have to be as accurate as possible. The additional information from the NASA satellites, Landsat, Astro and MODIS really helps us calibrate our model. Having that regional water depth map really helps us in understanding what the future day to day looks like in Norfolk with sea level rise. It's a better understanding sea level rise will help you decide places where you may wish to work or live in the near future. It also helps you better understand specifically what your risk is inherent not just with flooding but also with the changes to our climate as our world continues to change either for the better or worse.


In order to find the shaded region, we'll need to find the area of the circle and subtract the area of the square. Area of a circle is found with pi times radius squared. Area of a square is just side length raised to the second power. So, we already know the radius of the circle, and that's 6. So that means this length is 6, and so are all of these other lengths, equal to 6. And so, to find one side length of the square, we can consider this triangle. We know it's an isosceles triangle because two of the legs are 6. This angle happens to be 90 degrees, and the reason it's 90 degrees is there are four of those central angles that make up a full circle, and 360 divided by 4 is 90. So we have a 30, 60, 90 triangle. We know the n-length is 6, and so that means the side length of the square is the hypotenuse. In other words, it's 6 root 2. So now we have the radius of the circle, which we know to be 6. So we have pi times 6 squared minus a side length of the square. Side length of the square was 6 root 2 raised to the second power, and 6 squared is 36, so we have 36 pi minus... Well, take care here. 6 root 2 squared is 6 times root 2 squared, which squares both 6 and root 2. And so we have 6 squared times square root of 2 squared. So we have 36 pi minus 6 squared, which is 36, and root 2 squared, and square root of 2 squared are opposites. So we have times 2. And so the exact area, because it asks us for the exact area of the shaded region, would be 36 pi minus 36 times 2, which is 72 square units. And there we go. What fun.


All right separate traders welcome on back to close out our week close out our Friday and I'll close out our month Actually this April 28th Friday last trading day across the whole pay period folks great to have all this inside our live trading room Great to have all this back on social media Facebook live LinkedIn Twitter YouTube the works for all of us inside live trading room Just let me know if you can hear me loud and clear just had jiff a moment ago had later just right now So if I got them I got all of us so great to have all this back inside our live trading room Hey folks if you were here then you know because this has been an incredible afternoon so far up until this point perhaps the Quite before the storm even at that because the the markets alike have just been pretty flat the last hour and a half two hours But even with that we've taken full advantage of the MEGL. That's been all over the place The honey trade here. This normally has been a very volatile stock in the past I think it's done like you know a bunch of different reverse stock splits and over the years This has been a notorious tease a big pop and drop type of stock and to the point where I've never really like felt too Like fond of trading it personally Well, I'll tell you I mean I ended up missing out on the first leg of this trade But just a moment ago like after 12 o'clock after we finished up the phase two morning class This ended up providing for an incredible move ended up breaking over for ran off smoothly from there Ended up pulling back and ended up holding a higher low I actually have Fib extension line set up right now I was playing it off of those just before and really you know those and whole numbers. That's it 7 8 9 ahead 10 obviously now saying to John inside our chapboard just on the leg up when I was at 8 bucks Like hey, I think that there's like some room to see some like action on the whip towards 10 ish So for right now like right now, it's actually looking pretty good You know building perhaps a higher low in the process right now, you know bounced off a 7 Let's see if it could do the same off of 8 here, and I'll be a happy camper if this flies up during the meeting here I might have to add try and scale out half my trades So we'll see but honey we will definitely put back on our watch list for right now We had the top trade just before folks We have a class coming up the phase two stock course continuing I just their second lesson here for the month of April So with that just I want to make sure that we all have enough time to prep and get ready Let me actually just get my book map up up my level four up on my other screen here I'm gonna keep track of honey as this goes, but we'll go from top to bottom and see what else we can get Speaking of no pun intended I really didn't mean for that to be a pun But you know going to the top of the watch list here right at top up seven hundred eight hundred percent right now So, you know, hey, it's moving Don't get me wrong if there were warrants on it and the order book was liquid on the warrant Then I'd be following the warrant, but I don't think that's the case So yeah for right now too expensive for my liking if you want to give it a stab on one share You could do that But I just think that you're gonna make like actual money trading, you know more shares of a much cheaper stock So, you know teach throne on that But if you're here to try and lock in some money then me GL could still be worth watching in that sense I mean it hasn't totally dove off just yet actually You know, I'm kind of surprised with that. I thought it would be kind of tanking lower at this point So yeah, even this is still up for consideration, you know, it's traded 93 million shares total on the day. I Don't have my other scanner up right now just to check the float and all that good stuff But you know prior to today and yesterday this stock was trading just hundred thousand shares at most a day So very thin I'd imagine I'd still look for a lower low on the stock over time right now. I'm not fully committed I'm actually gonna put this on the side list. I'll come back to it You know by the end of this meeting if it's still holding then I'll give it a lick I'll give it a shot Alright speaking of holding honey holding over eat right now trying to squeeze back up to eat 15 So like I told you I have my eye on that still We keep going though a GBA and look at this the pop and drop looks like it's more likely to fill the gap If not by you know clothes today than Monday morning perhaps next week You know, you know, it's been interesting today I took a loss earlier on a stock will jump to in a moment And we'll get to that coming up here, but similar pattern here with the eye leg. This has just been so Thin I mean big spread Thin volume out there on the book and it's a dollar. It's a dollar 58 cents right now So something doesn't add up on that Something doesn't add up on this I took a 5 cent loss on this earlier and that was on some shares So that kind of cut me back a small amount and still I mean hey right now just for a dollar stock $1.44 and style like you should be seeing a lot better than this. It's been the case all day So you have to try and work around that and just focus on stocks that are more liquid You know even honey, of course, you know, that's a little illiquid too, but for the price eight dollars It's up over a hundred ninety-five percent. All right. That's kind of understandable All right, actually go back to UX. I am here UX. I am what's this end up pushing up earlier If I could smash over this 110 level then that could be of note, but you know, let me know if it does during this meeting CX AI hey, I took a loss on this earlier was off of 14 I ended up trying to jump it off 12 right here this stupid thing went up without me That one I was a little ticked about missing but hey look at the how thin the volume is on the book for right now on this on this trade to so You know again, do I really want to play with fire right now? No, but of course, you know how you know volatile and jumpy this trade is and if you know how to follow it Then that was worth the entry and just missed it by a ah by a hair That would have been a nice one too, but can't catch them all can't catch a ball right there. Let's see what else we got though CX AI what else we got kind of scam my scanners refreshed on me here WLGS another pop and drop on this one. So I'm gonna move away from that IMG and it's kind of holding there, but slow I feel like that's going to be the theme also nothing really too Strong that's moving really well outside of the hoodie if it could hold over eight and hoodie is now pulling back down to 782 770 that's all right.  I need to do that here too coming up before we jump over to the loser side If it drops any further, I may just hit the eject button, but I'll just move my stop up on that trade coming up All right, so market's dragging back down a little bit nothing really too eventful Otherwise on the gainers list here folks HKD. I mean actually on the other one right now, honey Move my stop up at least All right, so on HKD ended up leading to a nice pop earlier. We are very familiar with this stock It's the stock that went from like eight bucks up to 2,500 back last year That I always like to say is a real move. That's not some fake move We are all there for that inside our live trading room I mean that was the largest move percentage wise across this series of days that I've ever seen I've been working for Fausta for nine years now roughly. So You know, you thought that you'd see it all right, but on that day that was crazy If this could eventually make a fraction of the type of run it made back then then we'll be we'll be happy We'll be impressed speaking of right now FRC trying Trying to crawl back up Over 370. I was looking for an afternoon trade just before the meeting and I took a small loss on FRC from 370 And then I jumped back in, you know, I just broke back over my big level on the way up All right, take the trade. So I'm still in on this one also for right now Just waiting to see if this could make the higher high up to four or The push up to four. I don't know if it's a higher high just yet, but otherwise at least, you know, I just got to make sure I'm out before class, you know begins on this one All right, so let's see what else we got though. You got the net Just down big percentage wise trying to go back up cloud flare $45 so not really too jumpy to it Snap. Ah, yeah, no, this is like so slow moving right now If it was much closer to the lows and Making a stronger move down right now then I would have been more interested but yeah, same here All right, let's see. You know what I'm looking forward to folks the weekend Why is that because I can give my mouth a rest But a lot of talk in the last two weeks if anything not even this week with class Been stacking the coaching calendar up heading into may as well. We are but The weekend coming up. It's gonna be nice. Hope everyone has some fun weekends Fun plans set for the weekend FSLR making a great dead cat bounce since the morning like right around 10 30 eastern time It seems like let me zoom out there Yeah 10 30 11 o'clock hit truly bottomed out higher low later on off 172 apparently and You know from there it ran good trade. I just wasn't really watching it then pl tk And all right folks if there's anything else looking good on the way up on the way down Type it in the chat board. Let me know I'm gonna type my email address in early for all of a sudden youtube facebook live linkedin, et cetera The works as I like to say over social streams right there Josh at cttrading.com is the handle any questions that you got feel free to shoot me a quick email over the weekend Any trades or questions? I do have to get back to a couple of our students first actually I want to make sure they know that You know just from last night into this morning So please I'm right back to you actually just after we finish up class coming up But over the weekend we'll keep the inbox open All right, so folks, let me know if there's anything else looking good Notably on the way up if anything I mean hey markets kind of grinding off the highs a little bit lower, but I feel like we'll get like a nice pop higher here and say into the closing bell Benzinga pro scanner here. S. A. I may be trying to make a move up over 17 TC jh that does not sound like a fun stock to me. I feel like that's going to be like Some pop and drop Oh, yeah All right, what else we got S. A. I trying to go up right now, right? It would be hard for us to pass on this here at this point This stock we are pretty familiar with we only have two on the main list here at this point We got the hoodie. We got the frc for right now That's it Maybe matter if that can make one more bounce back up I ended up going break even on my last trade from 1002 I ended up getting some money at first off of 1009 entry no no from 990 entry got out at 1009 I was waiting for the higher high here at this point. Just never got it All right, anything else folks up down left right. Let me know And check out me gl before we finish I guess it's kind of hanging in there, isn't it hasn't totally dove off since we started this meeting I feel like this is down for for doom here. You know, I'm very pessimistic about this I feel like this is going to snap lower. It's up so much percentage wise folks So, you know, I'll add it. It's not Too illiquid for my liking at least it's just I think over traded and I think it's up too much I think it's going to make a lower low eventually into the close, but you know, hey If anyone's not joining me in class and if you're going to be following this year into the close here I'll root you on. You know, I hope I'm wrong If ends up holding right from here at least and pops back up to five There's definitely a good chance Kind of broke above resistance just a moment ago from the chart roughly around that 429 ish 430 ish year Still lingering there right now. So But for right now, I don't know. I think the huddies better FRC better SAI definitely looking good All right, so hey for all of us on social media. Hey, enjoy the weekend We'll catch you back on monday of next week for Leda for john for kathleen and all of us here live just Rich just posted the link for you for the phase two stock course. I look forward to joining joining you there I gotta refill up on water before I join you there if anything So I look forward to chatting with you folks soon talk to you soon. Take care


Run it up, do run it back. Run it up, do run it back. Run it up, run it back. It feels like run it back now. It feels a very vagus start to the show because we are up and running. Run it back.  Yes, we do. But today we're going to talk about everything. Michelle Beedle, Chandler Parsons, Lou Will on the end. We will get to Shams, the serious part of the show, eventually. But yeah, we are in Las Vegas. Some of us have already taken part in Las Vegas. You've been here 20 minutes. How have you already done stuff? Yeah, thank you. It's like the first day of a trip. You get the feeling. I actually drove for the first time from LA to Vegas. How was that? Did you drive? You know what? It was raining cats and dogs. You know the funny thing? Chandler texted me. He said, how's the roads? I said, perfect, bro. I got in with no problems. He sent me a video. I was in a category four storm for five and a half goddamn hours on the way to Vegas. That's weird to me. Playing like the hangover soundtrack. Smart. Trying to get in my vibe. And I found it. I like this for you. You didn't actually drive, right? No. Oh, God, no. That's what other people do. We all drove. Look at us. And I stopped at Raising Canes, by the way, which is absolutely slapping. Oh, you didn't stop again? You've been to Raising Canes? I've had it like once before. Are you kidding me? Unbelievable. Shout out to Trace Songs. Me and Trace Songs, we bond over Raising Canes. Over that, that's your thing? Raising Canes or... Basically all chicken fingers.  It's not a lot of... It's classic. We missed a real opportunity to do a hangover road trip together. Yeah. Because we all drove separately. And I'm really sad now that we didn't bond. And you know the drive back is just going to be absolutely miserable. Chaos. Yeah. That's going to suck. Yeah. I'm beating everybody. I'm going east. That's it. But it was fun. And you know what? You get here Super Bowl week. It's Monday. I let it get to me. It was a rookie mistake. It was a rookie move. Wouldn't I ask you the right question, Chandler? What's a Vegas night looks like for Miss Michelle? It's really not that great because I won't actually do anything maybe until like... What's your gambler? I have lost some money, but I only did slots so far because I'm old and awesome. But that's why you lose the money. You're putting your money in the machine. Those are rigs. There's some guy up there that's... No, they're not. No, they're not. I just played at the wrong place because I do have good luck at one specific casino and I was not at that casino. And then blackjack. That's my... So yeah, I'll get back up. This place will not take me for my money. No. I swear if it takes me all week... You're the first person to ever say that. I'll get it all back and then some... What does a Vegas night look like for you? Oh dear. It depends on the day. No, no, no. It depends on the day. Okay, how about a Wednesday night? A Wednesday night? Yeah. Oh, it's going to be a lot of tequila involved. Okay, so tequila and Wednesday? Yeah, I'm going to enjoy myself while I'm here. I'm enjoying the experience. This is my first Super Bowl. My first time being involved in anything Super Bowl related. It just never worked out for my schedule. Are you staying for the game? I am not. No, you're the only one staying for this. I know. It's seven days. I've never been here ever for more than two or three days. You're going to stay for the game? Dude, I'm here for seven nights. You are. I got daddy duties. Yeah. I'm going to send you guys a selfie Monday. This is going to be complete shambles. We have a show on Monday. My daughter really, really wanted to stay for the Super Bowl. You what? My daughter wanted to stay for the Super Bowl. And then she found out she had a daddy daughter dance at school. And she was like, I'm cool on the Super Bowl. Let's go to the dance. Wow. I'm going to do that. And then my other daughter, Jada, she has a basketball star game. Oh, perfect. So shout out to Jada, shout out to Zoe. They both got things to do when I'm out of here. Let's go back to Monday, by the way. I'm calling in sick now. You can't call in sick. I'm sick. We know where you are. I'm sick. No, you're not sick. If you are not on the show on Monday, so help me. Is it Zoom? Yes. I'm out. So you literally can't get up and look at your phone. No. And you know what I'm doing tonight, Michelle? For the first time ever. What? No, it's not true. I went to two in Dallas. I'm going to the hockey game tonight. Oh, I love this. Which happens to be the Oilers record-breaking game. Yeah. And by the way, I am not knowledgeable on hockey. Clearly. I got to find out there's three periods. But they're all intermission. There's half times. Whatever happened to us running over cars and tanks? Yeah. Chandler dropped us for cooler things. I want to go, no.  Do you know anything about hockey? Nothing. You're going to have fun. Nothing. You're going to have the greatest atmospheres in all of the NHL. And it's the record-breaking game. It's the biggest. Yeah. It could end poorly. It could end well. It depends on who's... It's going to end up great for me. I want to go to the sphere. Sphere. Sphere. Go see U2. You could do that. Will they ever have sporting events in that? Or it's too small? I don't know. That would be sick. You could have a sporting event in there. I don't know how it's built. You could have a fight in there. Yeah. Something like that. You definitely have a fight. I'd like to see a good rumble. Yeah. I think you could do that. That's a good idea. And when are we all hanging out and bonding? We can go tonight, Michelle. What time are you free? I don't know. I might be busy. Yeah, you're like... You work all day. You're no fun anymore, honestly.  Well, that's a fun way.  You know who's not here? Shoms. Yeah, he sucks, too.  Shoms still getting ready for the All-Star Game. There is a big party Friday night. And Shoms will be in attendance in Vegas. Shoms flies in before the party.  Shoms strikes me as a champagne drinker. Ooh. I don't think you're going to be able to convince him. Is it? He strikes him as a champagne drinker. He's a white wine guy. Champagne, Moet, Cristal, little Perrier, Huey. I don't want to be the champagne guy. He's a good classy. Shoms is classy. What are you trying to put on a Shoms? Shots. And more shots. I don't want to take it. Shoms, here it is. I want him to tweet something. Friday, you're in trouble, Shoms. I want him to flirt with the line. You know what? I'm not bringing any of this up when we bring him on here in a couple of minutes because I just want him to walk in on Thursday night slash Friday to a debacle of a show. I look forward to it. That'll be. All right. You need some dysfunction in Vegas. But no arrests. No arrests. Knock on wood. Yeah, don't you put that on us. Yeah, you put handcuffs in the conversation. I'm laying low because this has to be edited. Hold on. You would love a Parsons mugshot at some point this week. Are you kidding me? I would make your day. So many times. I'd make your year. I want to see Michelle Beatles' mugshot. Yeah. It depends on why I got arrested. Just like a little misdemeanor. Am I arrested because the cop was a turd? Because then I'm going to be smirking. Something simple. Did I kill someone? I might not be smiling. Like you peed in public. Oh, I'll probably smile. Yeah, exactly. That's hot. Sorry, Dad. We'll check the papers tomorrow.  Edit that together. Good luck. This is good stuff. We should do this more often. This is not even a show. Radio Row is cool too, Bob. This is my first time. You've been here before? Yeah, there's just stuff happening the whole time.  And this is the calm before the storm. And then we have the coolest stage here. Yeah, we have a really good set. We got the sickest set up here. I see a lady in her coat. I'm just excited to be here, man. I'm just a basketball player.  Yeah. Talking about very cool people. Talking about Super Bowls and football. All right, it's that time. Lay low. Scoops. Scoops me. Shoms. We'll go get it right. We got this right right now. Shoms, I know we got some Joellen B news coming up. But first up, some breaking news about All-Star. All-Star weekend is coming up next weekend after Super Bowl weekend. And there's an interesting team that's developing for the skills challenge. It's an all-Indiana team. Tyrese Halliburton, Miles Turner, Benedict Matherin. That's going to comprise a team at All-Star weekend for the skills challenge. They're also going to be playing against the team led by Victor Merman-Yama, as well among other skills challenge teams. I like this. I like the vibe. And I like what you're telling me. All right, so that's the happy fun news. But now we've got the Joellen B update. The procedure has happened. What are we looking at timeline wise? Joellen B underwent surgery today and it's not at this point expected to be season-ending surgery. They had surgery for that meniscus tear. I'm told that the Sixers hope is that anywhere between one to two months Joellen B is going to be able to make a return. They're going to reevaluate him after four weeks. But it's more likely that it's on the six to eight weeks side of a potential return to play. But a lot of it is going to have to depend on how his rehab goes, the recovery, and the next few weeks, the next month or so in rehab in terms of getting back from this meniscus injury and surgery. And also by the time it's a month out, month and a half, two months, where do the Sixers lay in the standings? Where will they be in a month and a half, two months from now? These are all parts of the equations that you have to take into play if you're the Sixers. But they've been active so far from my conversations around the league, Darrell Maury is still acting as if he wants to add another wing player, another score to this unit. So we'll see what move they make before the deadline on Thursday. Right, you guys heard it. They're going to check him in four weeks, but it's more likely it's the six to eight week window. You've seen what the Sixers can do without him. Do you have enough to stay afloat? I do. I think so in the Eastern Conference. There's no team that's going to kind of make a huge jump. I think Cleveland wins some games. I think New York wins some games. I don't think the team's behind them like Orlando, Indy, Miami. I think they kind of stay somewhere in that range. And like we said last week, this team is built to win now, right? So they still have assets. They still have pieces that can compete. They still have a star in Tire East Maxi. They still have guys that can go and carry a load. But it's going to be tough. When you lose to a guy like Joel Embiid, it hurts pretty much everything, your entire game plan, your entire attack. So it is tough. And listen, he's not going to rush back from this. Four weeks is a joke. That's not happening. And they shouldn't. It shouldn't happen. So I think they take their time. But yeah, I think they're still right at the end of the tunnel for him to be able to come back and play before this season's over, get some games under his belt, and then be healthy for postseason. Oh, that's a lot of pressure on teammates. It is. Because stay afloat, sure. I think they'll still be able to compete. But that's not how this season started. That's not what it was built on. This team, they brought Nick Nersen to get this team to be in the championship level. Joel Embiid was having a championship level MVP status type of season. They had big plans. And so can they stay afloat? Can they stay in that five or six zone? They got enough talent to do that. I don't think that's the goal here. So I think that's what happens, though. It's a bummer all around. We did get some new shams. I saw you post. We haven't had a big-name star in the Slam Dunk Contest in a minute. And then you posted. Tell us what's going on. Jalen Brown is leaning toward participating in the Slam Dunk Contest this year. He's been seriously considering it for the last few weeks. He's been mulling it. I'm told he's very much in play. He's leaning toward it. The league is going to announce the full list of the Dunk Contest skills challenge, et cetera, on Thursday night. But like you said, Michelle, this is the first time a current All-Star would be participating in the Dunk Contest since 2017. You know, Mac McClung will be invited. He'll be in the Dunk Contest. You would expect him to accept his invitation as well. But Jalen Brown's entry, I think, definitely is a surprise around the league. But, you know, we'll see how he does as the first All-Star since 2017. Heck, yes. I mean, that's an All-Star in the Slam Dunk Contest. First of all, yay. But do we think Jalen Brown doing this would open it up for... Very much needed. Really? Very much needed. Thank you, Jalen Brown, for being a leader. Yes. For being a front-runner and a trailblazer. We need the star power back in the Dunk Contest, in the three-point contest. And the fans are signing up to see the best of the best, do the best things that they can possibly do on the basketball court. Stop being afraid to fail, young guys. Put your reputations back on the line.  Show it. Prove it. Allow the fans to have the opportunity to see that. I love this. I love when I was a kid. Oh, yeah. And I can see Vince Carter in the Dunk Contest when he was a perennial All-Star. I love seeing Michael Jordan coming from the free throw line during the All-Star game. Steve Francis. These were all-stars in their times. Tracy McGrady. Tracy McGrady and Vince Carter, their cousins, they had an iconic Dunk Contest together. We need to see that. We're missing that in our game. We're missing that in our All-Star weekends. Big salute to Jaylen Brown for being a trailblazer and getting that feeling back. I think these guys are so scared of competing and we're worried about the business. Looking silly or what is it? Yeah, you know, it's just, we've gotten to that point where, you know, you just don't want to put your name on the line. Fair. You're going to lose to a Matt McClung. Listen, put it all out there. Who cares? It's going to be good. We don't care. It's great entertainment. I would think the opposite. If I'm Jaylen Brown, I'm already there. I'm already a superstar. I already got my huge contract. Huge contract. Like, now go and showcase and have fun with it. By the way, does that help that he already got the huge contract? Now he's like... It definitely doesn't hurt. I don't think it goes into it. And like Lou's saying, I think it's huge because I don't even care if he's good at it. I just want to see good players try it. Oh, me too. Absolutely. I mean it's like, it's all Star Weekend. If he doesn't get it, if he doesn't even, you know, get advanced to the next round, I don't care.  Oh, it's real. Ever since Zach and Aaron Gordon that, it's kind of been downhill. Matt McClung, you saved it. But again, I love Matt McClung. But like, I'd rather see the Zions, the Jamaarans, the Jaylen Browns. So I think this will hopefully push the envelope and now get other guys that are already there. Already there. You're already there. Love management has infiltrated all Star Weekend. I get it. I want it out that for three days, I want to see the best of the best. And by the way, you get a bag for winning it and doing it. Not that it matters for a guy like him, but like, you're already there. Your endorsements want to do it. You get paid actually. You get bonuses. Can you imagine? It could be an iconic moment. Do it. A legacy moment. Bravo, bravo. All right, fine. So now we get Jaylen Brown. Who else do we want to see? Let's go ahead and do our dream scenarios. Other All-Stars that we want to see, go ahead and do it. I've said it. Yeah. I want to see LeBron do it at least once. Yeah, you have. I agree. I want to do it at least once. He's been a phenomenal dunker throughout the course of his career. His first two points in the NBA was a huge dunk. Oh, and to the fans.  He's poured his heart and soul out. But wouldn't it be fun? But it would be fun. It would be fun. Yes. I would love to see Bron out there. The Bron against like Anthony Edwards and a dunk contest. Oh, come on. Are you kidding me? Like, I would make my weekend based around watching that. This year, I don't even know if I'm going to watch it. Like, it's even better. Well, now you might because Jaylen Brown. Now I might because it's a big day, it's packs more of a punch. Yeah. That's what I want to see. I want to see really good players that do this and NBA games and playoffs and the finals. I want to see them do it with no defense and show us your best tricks. You basically want to see household names be helped. Doesn't every best. And that's not an offense to anyone. It's just that's kind of what we grew up with. That's what people want to see. That's what makes the league special. Yeah, we lost that. And All Star Weekend is based on the best player and the stars. And that's what it's all about. So we should have the most athletic, best basketball players doing the dunks and the three-point contest and the skills challenge. That's a whole other conversation.  Wow. But whatever. At least we now... First Candidate Chandler moment. Yeah, here we go. At least Conrad, my drink. At least now... Conrad is not your bartender for the week. At least now we have a big name doing it that I'm excited to watch for the first time and years. A serious guy too, by the way. Jaylen Brown's like one of the more serious guys. Yeah, he's not the guy I would think that was the first. That's what I'm so excited about, Shams. That was good. Maybe we'll get more. Thursday trade deadline. We've talked to Jean-Té Murray. We've talked to Rosen. We've talked to Din Whitty a lot. And now we can see the trade deadline a couple days away. Any news? Any movement? It's still all fluid. I would expect the Lakers and Hawks to talk again before Thursday. I don't think it's the end of those two teams having conversations around Jean-Té Murray. Will there be another team that emerges? Will there be a dark horse that emerges on to Jean-Té Murray? I think these are all questions that are going on around the league. The Brooklyn Nets have Spencer, Din Whitty, Doreen, Finney, Smith, Royce, O'Neill, all out there, teams expressing interest. But they're going to try to get value on all of them. And the Bulls as well. DeMarco, Rosen, Alex, Caruso. They're going to get collars on Caruso. DeMarco, Rosen's free agency situation makes it interesting. They run the risk of losing him for nothing. But again, they also want to compete with the playoffs. And right now, with DeMarco, Rosen, Alex Caruso, Kobe White, Nikola Vucovic, they're competing around it, even without Zac Levine. So this is a Bulls team that's trying to be as competitive as possible right now. Oh, man. I feel like this is deja vu again for this Bulls team. Okay. So I give you the choice of Murray or DeRosen.  Which one's having a bigger impact? I mean, it depends on what team I am, I guess, but they're both, they're pretty much identical staff. They're going to give you 21, 22, 5 and 5. And they both are explosive. They both can carry a lead. They both can be a number one option on a team. Now, if we're talking about a contender, that's probably not going to be their role. But they both are kind of older, going into their prime, or DeMarco is a little bit older. But I think they both can contribute in a huge way. They both can score the basketball. They both can, you know, run an offense. And they can also, I'd like to see them on the contender so they can do less and kind of fit in. Great point. You know what I mean? So I think they both can make huge impacts. And both of those teams can get back a haul for both of them. Like on the Bulls, like DeMarco DeRozan, he's just going to walk this summer. Like, what are we waiting on? I agree with Chandler. Interesting thing that I just thought of, if you drop DeMarco DeRozan on the Atlanta Hawks, that gives Trey Young a guy that can slow down and have court, give him an option for somebody who can score the ball. You can take DeGente Murray and put him on the Bulls and give them a much needed ball handler. Yeah. With Lonzo Ball out, they now get a pretty car. I'm no GM, but... Yeah, but they're not at like... Can we just figure this out? No, you didn't just figure it out. No, don't start. I'm no GM, but, you know... You're definitely not. Maybe y'all just swap it out. That is not GM-ing. That was the laziest GM-ing I have ever made. And sometimes it's simple. When you say it out loud. Sometimes it's simple. So is that the trade? This is a different question. Is that the trade you'd like to see? No, because now it's like two non-contenders. Exactly. That's not fun. They're just going to do the same thing somewhere else. We're no going nowhere. And what happens if we look up all of a sudden and the Chicago Bulls and the Atlanta Hawks are in the Eastern Conference Finals? That would be unbelievable. Because you guys jammed it? Correct. Because of a simple swap. Somehow we've gotten to the point where you guys have maneuvered the Eastern Conference Finals out of two teams that have no shots. That's why we're here. Let me ask you for real though. Again, dream scenario. A trade you would like to see happen by Thursday. It's got to be one of these two guys, right? They're not a surprise one. I don't think so. I think Siakam, that already went, the OG, that was a big one. So I think it's got to be one of these two guys. And I feel like usually when they're smoked there's fire. Usually this happened. But I mean, we're getting down. They were two days away. Yeah, we are.  I can see them both happening. I would just like to see DeMar land somewhere where he's happy. Yeah. And he gets the opportunity to compete at the highest level and get a championship.  I don't really care about all the business stuff. Who would make sense for this? Right. I care that it makes sense for him. I hope he lands somewhere where he's happy and he's comfortable. Do you know where that would be? No, but I would like this. Lakers could possibly be that. Okay. Lakers could possibly be that fit. He's a LA guy. They need it. Who isn't? God, is everyone an LA guy? Well, a lot of these guys are not LA guys. They're SoCal guys. Okay, specific. Big difference. But he's an LA guy, Compton born and bred. I think he's the guy that gives them another score and punch that's very much needed. He can put them in a position to make a run. I would like to see that happen. Has the bronze tweeted anything today? Do we know anything? No. Hourglass. Yeah. My notifications are off. My bad. I'll check in the break. Jared Vanderbilt, Shoms reported that he'll be re-evaluated in three to four weeks. What's the latest on that? This is great news for the Lakers. They were fearing the worst. They were fearing it might be season ending, but he went a couple of doctor examinations. It is just going to be, they're hoping the next month or so without him and then getting back in the lineup near the end of the season. What is a major boost for them going into the trade deadline? They were looking maybe, maybe you need to go get another wing defender, but now if you are able to get Vanderbilt back late in the season, I think that does serve as some form of a trade deadline acquisition. So good news for the Lakers and Jared Vanderbilt. Shoms, serious question. Do you miss us? I miss you guys greatly, but we got to get to these trades. I don't think Shoms left the house in weeks. No, Shoms hasn't left the house. It's Friday. Shoms hasn't worn pants in years. We will see you hopefully sooner rather than later, and we will talk tomorrow. Appreciate you. Stay behaved. Make it to Friday. Yeah, he's not. 50 chance. That's not going to happen, but good luck.  Love you, Mina. Love you, Mina. All right, going to take a quick break right now when we come back. Seahawks rookie wide receiver, Jackson Smith in Jigba. Look at him. My god, he's young. There he is. Jackson Smith in Jigba. Do you like watching yourself in videos? I can't lie, I do. Yes, that was a great intro. I know. I feel, what would you have done if we did the little hype video except it was all mess ups? It was just drop balls. Ooh, that would have had me a little off the wall for a little uncomfortable. There's not many out there. Exactly. I appreciate that. All right, Seahawks rookie joining us now. You're probably thinking, well, this is a basketball show. Yes, it is. I'm going to try to get a basketball question in. Maybe. But first up, you grew up in Texas, a big football state. Yep. Did you have a basketball team growing up? Of course, yes. Basketball, it's huge in Texas. We got some players down in Texas. Some players. And yeah, I grew up playing basketball. Basketball is honestly my favorite sport, just to watch and just to hoot. So you played? I did. I did. I was a point guard. You know what I'm saying? You played varsity basketball in high school? I did. I did. Yes, sir. I like this. We have some point guards out there right now. Yeah. If you could do it all over again, would you have stuck with basketball? I'm too short. I'm too short for... I didn't have the shot. I didn't have the shot. He's short, but he got the shot. I didn't have the shot. You know, I'm facilitating. You know, I'm saying defense. You know, defense. Hard and hustle. Exactly. The games in Texas, they're like Dunkinville, those games, they were nuts. They're like... Really? Oh, they're insane. They're packed. They're sold out. There's crazy environments in Texas. Yeah. Texas is a pretty good place for athletes in general. Oh, yeah. If you had to, if you want to paint the picture for everyone, current player that you probably looked like out there? Current player? NBA one? Yeah. No, just... I'd hate to disrespect anyone. Oh, it won't be. But I would have to say, you know, a little wrestle Westbrook. Oh, I'd love to. High school. High school. Not A.U. We're not talking about outside of high school. I like that. If I district play, I would go wrestle Westbrook. So you're saying he can't shoot? I would say the mid-range game was there. Yeah, definitely an older wrestle Westbrook. I like that of him. I love wrestle Westbrook. Because, you know, when we were growing up, we all had that one player that we modded our games after. Yeah. We tried to be like that player. So would wrestle Westbrook be that guy or did somebody else? I would say Dwayne Wade. Yeah. As someone I looked at, like, I want to be that guy. And then wrestle Westbrook, just mentality, demeanor, all that stuff. Too good for him. Toughness, speed, how he played. Any of your basketball skills, did it translate to football? Oh, 1,000 percent. And the release game, the, you know, crossover game, all that stuff, that's real. The Hezzie, the Hezzie, get up out of there. I still got it. I can tell how you got it. It's off-season. It's basketball season now. And the off-season, do you hoop? Oh, yeah. Pick up with you. For sure. It's basketball season. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We'll get, we'll catch some footballers here and there, you know, getting away room, but we got to get in that gym. I haven't played a lot of guys on the Seahawks, so we're going to have to see when I get back to Seattle. Now that they know? Yeah. All right, growing up in Dallas, are you a Mavericks fan then, because of Dallas? Yeah. I'm a big Mavericks fan. Lots of bummer. Luca, Kyrie, got the guys, Mark Cuban, you know. No more.  Yeah, but he'll never really be gone. Yeah, he won't be gone. No, he can't be gone. He's not the Mavericks without Mark Cuban. But you know what, it's perfect for him because now he can go, be the celebrity, and of course, I do not have to pay the bill anymore. Yeah. I think it's the best of my worlds. Kind of a win-win for him. I heard that he set it up real nicely for visiting teams and stuff like that. Was that true? Y'all had a good time? It's amazing. Dallas is one of the few teams that really cater to visiting teams. Most teams, they won't let you use the weight room.  You can use your weight rooms, cold plunge, you can do everything. Let me tell you, you retired before Golden State moved to the new arena? I remember playing that. Amazing. Really? I think they're trying to set it up where we can't win the game. Because it's so nice. Listen, they have, no, they got live cooks back there for us. Wow. Like you can ask whatever you want. Yeah, they're taking out orders for the visiting team. Really? I'm like, yo, this is like, this is this alarming. Like, y'all don't want us to win the game. It's too nice. By the way, Cuban said it was part of like his recruiting pitch where like I want to see how, I want opposing players to see how I treat guys about it. See, I'm the opposite. Like no hot water. Turn off the hot water. I feel like that's with the Spurs. Make it cold as hell in there. Is it weird though that the Spurs like own the Mavericks forever? Is that a weird thing? Is that? They'll start. It's right here. Like it's just right here. That's actually not what that said. What's on this card? I see it. Sounded it out.  I'm thinking with that. There's not a better championship in Texas than that one right there. The one. Yeah. No, I could see that. Jason Terry got the tattoo. It was more he even played, right? It was meant to be. That's a risky move, by the way. Yeah. It's like the riskiest move because fans do it and we get fun of them when they get like super, but Super Bowl champs and you're like, and it never works. It never goes their way.  How many are you giving us? I'm playing 30. Who are we playing? You're playing the Detroit Pistons. We're getting off. We're getting off. I would say 30 minutes. Disrespectful. Because nowadays, by the way, guys are taking 12, 15 threes. Yep. You're hoisting them. I'm playing that thing up. I would say, I know it's my last game. You know, I'm playing the Detroit Pistons. I have a nice 15. Jackson. Nice 15. I love it. I'm coming off the roll. And I'm spraying. Nope. Then I can catch two touchdowns. Well, here we go. I've been waiting for this. I got the ball in my hands. I've been waiting for this all day. I got the ball in my hands. We were talking about this actually before you got here. We're picking you up full court. I don't even play defense and I'm guarding you full court. I don't even play defense, he says. Yeah, I'm not going to play defense. Screen, screen, screen. I need all the screens. Send me two screens. We're getting off of those. I got to see you hoot. This is the argument. Because they really think there's NBA players that think they can play in the NFL as well. Well, listen, I think if we're on the two yard line, they throw it out. On the two yard line, I'm 6'10". They will break the body. Yes. Did I play football? Never. I don't like contact. Okay. Nope. No. Right after flag all the time. Yeah, exactly. I didn't even play flag. I got scratched one time. I was like, no. I need to play inside with air conditioning. Yeah, we get into the hole. We get into the free throw line and we jack in three's up. I like that. I quit football on the spot. I got hit going across the middle and I took my helmet off and my coach. He said, if you don't put that helmet back on, this team again. I said, don't work. You never put it on again? I swear to God, I quit on the spot. I'm a legend in high school. I quit on the spot. Do you think you could really catch a touchdown pass? No. Really? No. You don't think so? No. I respect professionals to the highest level. Everybody trained for what they're good at. I don't think so. I don't think you can walk in an NBA game, cold turkey and get 15 points. If he's wide open for a corner three and he can shoot, he could probably make a jump shot. You said he could. And we're going to take it personal, Chandler? I'm going to the hole. I'm getting fouled. Why has this not happened? I'll make some free throws. That's on my best day. This is my, I'm giving everything. You know what I'm saying? That's on your best day. That's on my best day. That's what I'm saying. On my best day, I'm catching a four-yard pass. Okay. I think you're selling yourself short, man. You know what I'm like? Really? I think you're selling yourself short. I just asked somebody, could I still play in a Super Bowl? Yeah. So now it's the Super Bowl. It wasn't just a game. He's just said, I'm selling myself short. Why? So you went from, I can't catch a touchdown to now you're in the Super Bowl. Correct. Because Jackson said I can and he knows better than all three of them. That's what makes sure I knew what the journey was for Lou Will on this one. You became all pro in a matter of seven minutes. In a matter of seven, well, he did too. He gets 15 points. Yeah, that's fair. So we all even. I just think my height is an advantage for football. I think I can really post up in the end zone and tip it up and catch the ball. Yeah. I'm going to try it with Joe Hayden. The most physical game there is. I'm going to try it. I'm going to post them up and I'm going to get one right here. The most physical game there is you said you don't like contact. I'm talking a two-yard pass, Lou. I'm not talking. They're not going to let you... It's more physical than basketball? Football, you know. That's what I'm saying. You tell us. It's constant contact with us, but it's not. They call fouls and you can't even hand check. Physical contact. There's flagrant fouls. You guys actually get hit. Like, do you hurt Monday morning getting out of bed? Yeah, I'm hurt.  Yeah, I'm hurting. But I'm not going to lie. I played basketball last week and I didn't feel... I was hurting. Like, bad. Just different kind of sorrows. It's a different kind of sorrows. Yeah. That's kind of nuts. All right, talk to us. Well, you're saying nobody else on the team hoops. So that's kind of like... DK, that ought to be solid, right? DK, look at him. He's just a big old muscle. He's too much muscle. He's like a wrestler, a boxer or something. Good lord. He can get down on that block, I believe, but, you know, other than that, I don't know. I've seen a shot. He might be too muscular. You see Miles Garrett in the All-Star games dunking every day. Miles Garrett can actually... He's actually solid. Miles Garrett can actually... He's solid. Yeah. See, I feel like this argument could go on forever. If football could play basketball or basketball could go on. It should be an All-Star weekend. It really should. You think if LeBron, if he actually trained, he could become like a great tight end or a great receiver? I do. If someone like that build, that athleticism? I do. I do believe so. I think, man, AI, I've seen his highlights, but there's a lot of players. I think Russell Westbrook can play. I think there's a lot of guys in the league that can... It's a very small pool level. But... There's a lot of guys that couldn't. But I think more so basketball could play football than football can play basketball. I like that. Getting that ball in the hole is hard. You heard it from him. The problem is, one hit and you're dead. Yeah. You just got to get that one cat. Correct. Yeah, that's the part I can't get over. I can't get over that. It's run deep. Yeah, that's the part I can't get over. Yeah, I don't even want to get pushed out of bounds because I don't want to be brushed by a close friend by another human being. Like, that sounds awesome to me. For what? Right. Yeah, you might be nuts, dude. Speaking of touchdowns, I've always wanted to ask a football player this when it comes to touchdown celebrations. Yeah. Do y'all rehearse? Like, what's the... Oh, I love that. Is that something that y'all just build during practice or it's like, yo, after practice, 10 minutes, we got to get this down. Yeah. I mean, you got seven days to prepare, six days, five days to prepare for the next game. So, you know, in practice, you know, when you stand around, you got to make sure the TD celebration is right. In Seattle, we got... We have some history of some good celebrations, too, for sure. Is there any celebrations that you want to do that you just can't? Because it's risqué? Yeah, like, yeah. It's too much. You'll get behind your like... You can't dunk the football anymore. Why not? I guess so. You can't dunk the football anymore.  I did it.  You know, I've always got a lot of fun. Is that just a penalty or is that a fine? Yeah, it's a fine. That's a fine. I was about to say... Yeah, it's not a penalty. I don't think you get a penalty. You get fine, though, for chunking it. Was it worth it? Fine? Was it worth the... Yeah. Okay, yeah. That one, you know. That one was worth it. That one was worth it. Do you feel like you guys have the best uniforms in the league? I do. Okay. I do. I think, you know, the blue and the green meshes real well. You know, my mother always gives me the best. See, that's the one. I think it's, like, one of the best ones bright-wise. Yeah. And we're into fashion, obviously. You look at us. Like, I mean... The all-lime green is, you know, tough, but under the lights, when it's dark, I think... It pops. Yeah, for sure. And we got the old-school jerseys. I don't know if you've seen that. The throwbacks. We got the throwbacks. Yeah. Yeah, we're up there on the list, for sure. By the way, I thought you were going to ask him about... I got a real football question. We do have real football questions. You were the 20-years-pick in the first round of the draft. Walk me through that experience. Because I got drafted, but I was the second rounder. I was in the ESPN zone. I watched myself get drafted in the lobby of ESPN zone by myself. So tell me, what was that experience like on draft day? Man, I was... I was nervous, honestly. Just because you just don't know where to go. Y'all have experienced it.  You know, just try to chill, relax with the family and getting there. You know, you have a... You know, I could go here, I could go there, but it's nothing like when you get that phone call. They... I'll have three phones on me and they end up calling the house phone that's right there. I'm like, I've been waiting all day sweating. What were the other two phones for? I was waiting for them to call me, but hey, you know... Stop it. Don't get in the trouble. Just wrapped up your rookie season. Did you have a...  I'm in the NFL moment. My first preseason game. First one? That was it. Got it out the way and then I was... I felt like I was rolling from there. What happened? Or just being there? Yeah, once I've seen my family on the sidelines, you know, it was just... I was in awe, you know, in awe moment. She had some tears and now I was ready to play. Did you really? Who was your first game against? My first preseason game was against Minnesota Was there anybody on Minnesota that you were looking at? I'm like, damn, like I'm here. I played it. Mine was T-Mac. My first game was against the Houston Rockets and by the time T-Mac was going in for the second time, I was going in the first time. So we walked to the table, walked to the table together and T-Mac was like, what up, Lou? And I was like, damn, T-Mac, know who I am? I was an 18 year old kid. Did you have that moment? I wouldn't say it for Minnesota, but our first actual game, I was like, yeah, he big. Yeah, he big. I was bigger in person. Yeah, he bigger in person. Yeah, was it like a moment where you also were like, okay, I can do this. Like I belong here.  I would say practice, first practice, you know, caught a touchdown on like, I want to say it was like my first pass, honestly, caught a touchdown and then I was just feeling comfortable. Yeah. But the game is, it's definitely different. I didn't feel like I got my groove really until the middle of the season, later on in the season, honestly. Man. And another thing you can't ever take for granted is a good coach and you had a great coach and Pete Carroll, obviously he's gone now. What, was there one thing that stood out that you learned from playing from him in your rookie season? Yeah, I just feel like what stood out to me is just, you know, once you stop moving, you know, he's always active. Okay. He was just a great person to be around. You know, he just cared about the team, cared about the organization and the impact that he, you know, left on me and the whole organization will be, will be with us forever. And when there's a move like this, is there a comp, like, do you remember your last conversation with him? Did he address the team? Like how did that kind of end?  My only question I have for that is he's 72 years old and I, he has more energy than I've ever had. Did he tell you his vitamin secret? Like what does he do? What is the plan there? Coffee guy, what's the secret? Yes, is it coffee, is it? I've never seen him drink any coffee, but man, I'll tell you, those meetings, he's electric. I've never in my life seen it. Jackson, what's your role extravaganza? Are you prepared for the week that's about to be out here? I'm ready, I'm ready. Don't look at these two, jackass. They started out strong and they're already a mess. Yeah, I hear you. Good luck the rest of the way. Thanks bro, appreciate you. Great talking to y'all, man. Good luck, we're following you. Yes, sir. Good luck, bro. It's a date. I'm like, aw, nah, nah, nah, nah, bam, bam, bam man, man, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. And I just remember you buying that, oh, K. You ready, I have all right here, so I'm going to look at them, because they're all very different, Nicole, It's wrong, they've done this now for two years. It is fascinating though, cause they do have talent. They do have a good team. They do have, you know, guys that can score the ball. I think the Lonzo ball injury hurt them. They needed that point guard, which is why my boy Lou earlier said, why don't you just do the old flop peru for Gisante Murray, which kind of makes sense. Cause they need that point guard to kind of set these guys up. And for whatever reason, it just didn't work. And those guys, again, I think they're going to succeed elsewhere. They've all individually had great careers. And I love Vooch, but no way I'm buying this. Cause it hasn't worked, so why would it automatically just start working? Yeah, why would you say that now? Yeah, we're not buying it. Nobody's buying it. We're not even going to ask you, cause we're not asking you. Cause you're getting your own one. Cause here it comes, advanced analytics. We love that. It says that Russell Westbrook is the best sixth man in the NBA. You buying that? Now, this season, before you get offended. Yeah, it's hard not to buy it. They're on a roll. They're on a roll. And I think a lot of that starts off the back of Russell Westbrook when he decided to say, listen, I'm going to be the guy that comes off the bench to give us that balance we need to have two very solid units. And so they went on a run, 23 and three since then or something like that. I don't know the exact numbers, but it's hard for me to dispute that. How he's played just not even from a numbers perspective, but just the energy that he's brought, the joy that he's brought. They look like they're having a ton of fun. And because of that, they're winning games.  James Harden banked the three in.  And I think all of that comes off the back of Russell Westbrook and his mindset and what he brought to that team from a mentality standpoint. So it's hard for me to fight that. I'm buying it. All right, we're buying it. Chandler, yours is up. Nick's guard, Ryan Archie Diakono is the first player to NBA history to play in 20 consecutive games without scoring a single point. Who? Who is this guy? Ryan Archie Diakono. Hold on, say that again. He's played in 20 consecutive games without scoring a single point. It's a record. Wow. Are you buying that? This will never be proved. Is this like he's getting tossed in at the end of the game? Yeah, it's mostly. And he's not playing, you know, 15, 20 minutes. A lot of them, yeah. Because he's taking shots. I think this is a little, we're saucing this one up a little bit. It's a shitty record to have. You know what I'm saying? It's a record though. You don't want to be on that side of the history. You don't remember Archie Diakono, a white kid from Villanova? Got really good hair. He scored a point 20 games. Yeah, well, when he did it at Villanova. That's true. Am I buying it that this record, what? Will never be broken. I mean, there's a good chance. 20 reps without a one bucket of free throw. Yeah, nothing. Nothing. No, this is a forever record. Good for him. Right in permanent marker. You know what, a record is a record. Not everybody has it. I'm always a champion of the players, but it's almost impossible to do this, Ryan. And it's growing or it's done? That's a great point, yes. Still active. I think it's still active. Yeah, so we're not stopping at 20. No, no, this could go on forever. Could this go on forever? We're looking at our stats over here. We don't have any stats. But I think 20's safe. I think that's it. You could score on accident in the NBA. Well, he's not. But I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt because I think he's just getting. 20 games? I think he's getting subbed in with like 20 seconds, 50 seconds. He's a point. I mean, I've been at a game where he came in for 20 seconds. The seventh, 22nd game I've played. I'm shooting. I'm leaving with some. So you would just do it anyway. It's just, I mean. Or would you keep this puppy going? We already went through this. Keep this puppy going. Our first games. Get the 30 games. Our very first games, I played a minute and four seconds and I had four points. I'm getting a bucket. Yeah, but now you gotta keep this thing. You gotta go on forever. No, because you're gonna go down as one of the worst NBA players of all time. You don't want this record right. Next time you go on that game, Chuck, my brother, Chuck. Don't, keep it going right. Let it fly. Do it for Philly. A record to record. Do it for Philly? All right. Let it fly. That's an awful record to have.  Fabricast. Here we go. Clay Thompson-Lew says it's really hard to be on the bench during the closing minutes of Golden State's games. Hmm, this is awkward. Are you buying that the team's actually better when he's not playing in the end? I can't buy that. I can't, I can't buy that. Listen, Clay Thompson is legendary. We all have, we all have that moment where we realize we're not the player that we used to be. We go through some injuries. We go through some adversity. I can't, I can't buy this. Okay. Let's see Clay Thompson on the floor. Ride with your guys. Die with your guys. He's a champion. He's a legend. His number is gonna go up in the Raptors. Yeah. For the Golden State Warriors. I don't like this look. I'm not buying it. By the way, we're all still like kind of hoping that the turnaround's happening any day now. Like we're all here. I'm still holding out for it. I'm not buying it. And I think every game is gonna be different, right? There's always, that's with every team, right? It shouldn't be for Clay though. But I mean, it's what you're right. They're kind of transitioning to this next phase, to this next. And if he's not having a great game and someone else is, I understand it. But no, the idea that they're better. Is it working? It's nothing's working. Nothing's working. It's nothing's convincing enough to say it's working. Literally nothing's working. They're riding now with your guys. Oof, then that makes it even more awkward. Yeah, it's tough. All right, Chandler. The three-point contest participants are Dame Lillard, Donovan Mitchell, Tyrese Halliburton, Jalen Brunson, Lowry Markinen, and Malik Beasley. Are you buying that this event is dames to lose? I mean, he's the best shooter of that group. He's historically the best shooter. He's the most clutch shooter. I don't think he's gonna get nervous. I think he advances, but like, I mean, anybody can win this event right now. Weren't you so sure last week, you're like, this is dames? What has he said? If I had to bet on it, it would be dame. But it's definitely, he could definitely lose. Like I don't think it's like a crazy favorite with crazy odds that it's him. Malik Beasley. That's who you're taking? That's just the complete guess. No, no, no. Leads the league in three-point percentages and he cared about being in the three-point contest. He rallied to be in this contest. He cares. I'm going with Leasley. Passion fueled win. I just think this is another day, another dollar for dame. He's not gonna get nervous. Bees cares. I'm going with the guy that cares. You're going with the guy that didn't care. Facts, facts. Wait, he don't think he cares?  Shocker. Kind of like you with the show today. Sort of that. Exactly, just bringing it. I care. Do you? I'm having a ball. Oh, you know what? It's oozing. I think we should move to Vegas. I think we're just oozing out of there. Keep this whole situation permanent.  Yeah. Okay. Having random people walk by. We're gonna take a quick break. I'm not ready to take a break. No, we're gonna wrap things up. Now you hold that thought. I'm gonna break. No. That's good stuff. There it is. You're looking at radio row. It's earlier in the week and it will get more and more chaotic. We, of course, are here for Niners Chiefs. Niners Super Bowl. Our set's gigantic. Look at that. Look at us. Yeah, we are so cool. We might as well at least mention this football game. You're staying for it. I'm staying for it. I'm going to it. I'm betting a hefty amount on the Kansas City Chiefs. Now are you... And I got them plus three. Plus, you got them. I got them early. I got them early. I got them plus three. Yeah, you did. It's like one and a half. Right now, their defense is dialed. The first ever Super Bowl in Las Vegas, do you think Travis Kelsey is losing this game? Oh, so you think it's a Travis Kelsey? I think it's a Travis Kelsey Bowl. I think the party afterwards is gonna be absolutely barricades. And there's no way it's gonna be after a loss. He can't allow that. They could lose. Where it is, the Chainsmokers are performing at the after party. Can I say something? You say Chainsmokers a lot as if I'm supposed to be excited. You don't like the Chainsmokers? She likes Depp Leppert. I like Depp... You just won. And I do like them. It's Depp Leppert. No, it's Depp. I know I'm trying to confuse. DEF. Yeah, thank you. Depp. But I like to say Depp Leppert. Do you like the Chiefs in this ball game? I do. Who do you like? Honestly, I don't really care who wins. I'm good either way. But I will say this, if we get like a Brock Purdy redemption story out of this and redemption from what I don't know but some people hate him, it would be pretty amazing. Here's the thing. The Niners are a better team. Like they have the star power, McCaffrey's unbelievable, Debo's unbelievable, but I just think the Chiefs are playing better right now. They're peaking at the right moment. They really are. I don't care how good they are. Chiefs are the two best players in this game. Are the Chiefs the Miami Heat of the NFL?  Like there's way more Niner fans here than Chiefs fans. Like the press conference last night, it was nuts. They were literally violently booing them. To me, I think adds more fuel to the fire and gives them even more motivation. That was gonna say, booing Patrick Mahomes is going to turn out to be an awful idea. Yeah. It's gonna be now. Why poke the bear? It would have been a three-point game, it will now be a 14-point game. Wow, the Chiefs by two touchdowns? Yeah, why not? I think it'd be a great one. But I can change my mind by the end of the day. If the Chiefs win, I'm calling in sick on Monday. Fair. You're not calling in sick. All right, tomorrow, Tony Pollard. We got all kinds of people tomorrow. We got Breeze Hall, Quincy Williams and dads. We got questions for them. We'll see y'all tomorrow. How about them cowboys? No.