You're on. Thank you. Good afternoon. I'd like to call this work session of the Durham City Council to order at one o'clock on April the 9th, 2020, this extraordinary work session, the first that we've had through our virtual format. And I want to welcome those people who are listening in on a couple of different channels on which this is publicly available. And I believe that we did have public comment open through email. And I believe we've received one comment on an item which my understanding is that the administration is going to act to ask to have referred back, but just wanted to mention that to our public. We're still working on how we're going to do public comment in the future. But thank you to the clerk for getting us started. Madam clerk, would you please call the roll? Absolutely. Mayor Schuyl. Here. Mayor pro tem Johnson. Here comes member Austin. Where are you. Council member caballero. Here comes a member Freeman. President Middleton. Here comes a member East. Thank you. Thank you, madam clerk. I'm now going to ask if there are announcements by members of the council. Mr. Mayor, would this be the appropriate time to give our valedictory addresses for. Yes, it would. I think it would. I think it would council member Middleton. Why don't you do that. Okay, I don't know if you had had a prescribed order. I just want to simply say what a what a supreme privilege and pleasure it has been to serve with this remarkable individual, Renetta Austin. You know, I think it would be a great honor to be here today. I think it would be a great honor to be here today. And oftentimes in politics, people on the outside looking in. We'll, we'll try and define relationships by issues. And issues come and go today's yes is tomorrow's no and. Issues of all, but, but what remains are relationships. And character and I am absolutely. The better. And I think our city is the better. Because we're not all sitting on this body. I know I'm personally better. I'm not gonna get this part out and put the video down on the right side of the podium because if you're from the audience's point of view, our side of the day it says the right side of the day is. Council Austin was my seatmate and had a wonderful time. Considering the issues of the city, but also the banter we enjoyed back and forth when when we hope the microphones were off. So I just want to wish Godspeed to you and your family. Your protection health and safety as you take on this new assignment I could not ask for a better person to be fighting for us in the legislature and listen We won't stop with a period or an exclamation point, but just a comma to be continued Go well Godspeed to you. Congratulations. And thank you for all you've done for us and what you will continue to do for us Love you. Thank you Thank you for those great comments councilmember any other comments I think that mark anthony has said it as well as we could any of us could bring out that was a beautiful tribute and absolutely right And I just want a second on behalf of all of us in this in our city what mark anthony said We're going to miss you tremendously, but we know you're going to be amazing up there and You'll be hearing from us about things that we want absolutely And uh councilmember middleton. I was muted. Thank you very much I don't feel like I deserve those kind words, but I appreciate them. I appreciate all of you But you know, I leave reluctantly. I hope we have the chance to do more work together We'll just have to do it in a different way. I love you all very much. Thank you Thank you very very much councilmember allston The mayor yes councilmember freeman Yes, thank you. I just wanted to Move to the comments around this Pandemic that we're in and just noting that I want to take a moment and just express my sincere Condolences, I know lots of folks have been hearing about people that have been lost. I do know of quite a few Members in our community who have experienced the loss and I want to take a moment and just make sure that I Express publicly how hard these times are and noting that this is a health care crisis And again, that's the the losses we're experiencing the numbers we see but the people we don't And just noting that there are a lot of people among us who are experiencing the grief that comes along with this loss and just making sure we all take a moment and slow down To check in with others Thank you Thank you very much councilmember and very well said And I really appreciate those important words um I also have a couple things to note one is I did a message to our community Yeah, yesterday was day 29 from our first case and I've done it. I did the message in english and in my Really terrible spanish um The english version apparently is up and if you all would share that widely and urge other people to share I think that would be great and I think the spanish version should be up soon Because I did the english version in one take and the spanish version in many takes The videographers are having to paste that together. So once that once they have done that mammoth task They will have that ready as well So that was one thing another thing I wanted to announce and this was made public today and I is that Cree corporation Has donated 20,095 masks To duke university health system, which is fantastic They have a factory in In china in guangzhou province They thought they were going to need those masks over there. They didn't They shipped them to durham And now they're in the hands of duke university health system, which is great and we had a little announcement about that today So Those were two things on my mind and the only other thing that I wanted to say just prior to us talking about the agenda is that I have received information of a potential contribution from To the city For emergency uses from a private foundation And they don't want it to be public who they are yet, but they want the money to go out fast For emergency uses And what I wanted to do is sometime at the end of this agenda to For us to empower our City manager I don't want to wait until we have to get together 10 days from now To to have money available to feed our children and our elders and so forth So I was hoping that by the at some point at the end of the meeting We could add an agenda item where we would discuss and Give approval to our administration to be able to expend those funds when they arrived So I just wanted to put that on on the radar and Ask the the manager and if we could make that happen perhaps as one of his priority items Okay, um any other announcements by members of the council All right. Thank you all. Um, then we're going to move to priority items by the city manager Thank you, mr. Mayor. Good afternoon everyone priority items from the city manager certainly just heard from the mayor And we have three other priority items agenda item number four, which is the request to initiate a neighborhood protection overlay for forest hills That item is to be referred back to the administration agenda item number 17 2019 fourth quarter crime report Just note that the attachments two and three have been added since the agenda went out An agenda item number 23 is a supplemental item the ashton place development loan commitment And those are my priority items Thank you very much. Mr. Manager. Can I have a motion on the four items of by the manager? Second Um, so now we have to think about how to vote. Um I'm going to ask each person to raise their hands and just long enough for us to count. Okay Um Except maybe on these perfunctory ones. I'll just ask for a voice vote. Is that all right with everybody? Okay, so um all in favor of the manager's priority items, please say hi Hi pose no The eyes have it and the motion passes unanimously All right. Thank you all very much and now, uh, madam attorney. Are there any priority items from the city attorney's office? They're not mr. Mayor. Good afternoon, everyone Thank you very much Madam clerk good afternoon mayor and council. I have no items from the city clerk's office. Thank you, madam clerk All right. Now we'll move to administrative consent items. We have two. Um Really two different lists here colleagues as you know, we have one list which is items that we have already Worked through at our marks the Fifth work session and then we're not able to um Eventually pass On the following Monday because we had to cancel that meeting And those items are all marked here on the agenda. I'm going to read all the items. Uh, but my expectation is that Uh, we're not planning to discuss those ones from march the fifth if we if anyone has something particularly about any of those items Of course, we can discuss it but um I know my plan and and the administration's plan is to mainly focus on those items Which we had not previously discussed which is about half the items on the agenda um item city clerk's office item one approval of city council minutes This was a One of those items that was from march the fifth, but I do want to just pull it because I think we uh We should discuss a little bit about what our expectations are about Minutes and statements that are made and so forth is there have been a couple of emails about that that I think would be useful to us So i'm going to pull item one Item two boards committees and commissions 2019 attendance reports That was also on the march fifth agenda Item three citywide strategic plan performance audit february 2020 and if you want to pull an item, please Yeah, as you usually do um Item four under city county planning request to initiate a neighborhood protection overlay for forest hills This has been referred back to the administration Under department of community development Community development block grant cdbg contract with urban ministries of durham. This also was on the march fifth agenda Item six second contract amendment with a housing authority the city of durham community development block grant sub-recipient contract and the rehabilitation of laura loeks townhomes This was also discussed at the march fifth Housing authority of the city of durham grant funding request mcdougal terrace That is an item for today Mr. Mayor. Yes. Is someone from the housing authority on the line? Uh, I don't know that no, okay If you have any questions, uh, that staff cannot cannot answer me questions, please let us know staff will attempt to answer them and if Part of my video on if we're not able to answer them then We can get you the answers in time for the council meeting I was I was just thinking it would be good to have an update about How the progress is going at mcdougal and um folks being moved back home, but I don't know if staff has that information We have some of that information, but at this point it's a couple days old So I don't know that it would be fair to say something that may not be We I'll um, I'll follow up with uh with our um housing authority director and make everyone aware Right, we'll be glad to have a look within writing any any updated information. We have so all the consumers have it Thank you Thank you very much and Also just on item five. I wanted to add a just add a comment to say I really appreciated the demographic Information being included in the breakdown and that was pretty much well Thank you council member Um, and thank you madam mayor pro tem Okay, um We'll now move to item eight emergency response plan and source water risk and resilience plan also appeared on the march fifth agenda Item nine resolution of support for reclassifying a segment of the eno river for water supply appeared on the march fifth agenda item 10 2020 manhole rehabilitation south award of construction contractor by numbing services ink appeared on the march fifth agenda item 11 2020 manhole rehabilitation north award of construction to am liner east incorporated also appeared on the march fifth agenda uh finance department item 12 Durham sports commission interlocal agreements also appeared on the work 2020 i'm sorry march fifth agenda item 13 bid report February 2020 Uh under general services item 14 leased to the museum of Durham history at 521 west morgens st Durham nc march number 103 112 I'd like to pull that I want to pull that item. All right. Thank you. Thank you Uh item 15 amendment to the construction manager at risk cmar contract for construction service with scamski usa building ink for the Hoover road park project I don't want to pull that item. Okay. You want to pull that okay item 15 um Item 16 proposed acceptance of offer to donate property located 2702 and 2704 dearborn drives Just a question specifically if there's a if there's more information that's coming on this I don't want to pull it but I just Have no context for for this item Would you like more information about what the um what the water department plans to do with it? Yes Okay, and I know A little more information on that Police department and I think we should say thank you to mr. Preston for his donation Uh item 17 police department 2019 fourth quarter crime report We have the attachments. Uh the way we're going to handle that this time is if you have any questions about the report Please email them to uh The city manager and to chief dais um Item 18 public works department Buckingham road culvert replacement sd 2020-03 this item appeared on the march 5th work session Item 19 alpine road culvert replacement sd 2020-04 also appeared on the march 5th agenda And mr. Mayer, I just wanted to point out again just to comment so that we don't have to pull it Um, this this is actually just demonstrating how the departments are moving in the direction of making sure that they are POC of people of color included And uh, and not just at the labor level and so I really appreciated that Contracts have been selected Thank you for those comments Uh item 20 street and infrastructure of acceptances we uh, this was on the march 5th work session item 21 utility extension agreement with vc owner llc to serve venable a center office under 21 Under technology solutions department virtual chief information security officer vc iso managed services I'd like to pull item 22 And then supplemental items department of community development item 23 ash in place development loan commitment I like to pull that is there going to be a present? Yeah, okay. Yeah, so Uh, thank you all mr. Manager the items I have Pulled our 1 14 15 21 22 and 20 flu Thank you. That's what I have as well. Mr. Mayor. All right. Thank you very much And for those staff who were here, uh, awaiting the possibility of speaking on other items We thank you for being here virtually Uh, and hope you can do something more interesting than this for the rest of your afternoon Okay Now we'll go through our administrative consent items The first is the approval of the city council minutes item one So, uh, there was some discussion today On email with councilman freeman and the clerk and In which the clerk described how she makes a decision about how much of someone's Remarks to include when when there's when there is the Um instead is the summary of remarks that kind of thing. So, um, I just wondered madam clerk If you wanted to describe for a minute to people How you you and and uh, and uh, ashley why it make decisions about um, you know How how you make decisions about what to summarize what went to put word for word and those kinds of things Could you just talk about that the minutes are written in a summary fashion We do not do word for word or verbatim minutes unless a council member says for the record And then after that point we do we do do verbatim but typically They are summary we write down the main topic conversation if there are any questions what the questions are and the answers And we also give an update from the staff on their staff reports Sorry, so if anyone Once they're Remarks To be recorded verbatim They would need to say that ahead of time. Yes, and um, I also think it's helpful um, a couple of times when I've had One of the remarks in the record to make them available to you in writing Subsequent so that What we are, you know, would like to do as little as possible is have the clerk have to You know go through the whole thing and write down everything word for word sometimes that has to happen But in so far as we can if we can give written remarks to the clerk, I think it would be helpful to her to You know something we want to You know, so if I'm gonna Let's say I'm trying to remember an occasion when I might have wanted something verbatim in the record Madam clerk We enter your state of the city verbatim Yes, right exactly. So I just made that available to the clerk so I just wanted to Get an understanding out so that we all had it Of when she does that when she does it Any any thoughts questions concerns councilmember middleton. Thank you. Mr. Marant. Thank you, um, madam clerk I would note that this is historically the for the record utterance by speakers Had a different meeting before the age of of being able to record everything be it by sound or Video so I you know, it's become more kind of a political tool these days because everything is memorialized Video recording and audio recording. So if there were any concern moving forward about being able to recap or having our words memorialized We tape everything. So for the record, I just want to say historically is taking on a different meaning than it used to serve For the record for the record, you just want to say that for the record for the record. I like the record to reflect all of those Okay, well, I think that's a good inclusion for the record for now on Yeah, I mean, I think that's a great point Councilmember Middleton is making though if I understand it correctly, which is that A lot of times we say for the record. We don't really mean we need our remarks written in the minutes for bait Is that what you're saying councilmember? Absolutely Once upon a time it was a signal to that the scribes to take everything down But technology has utterly changed the usage and meaning of the phrase you're on the record by virtue We record everything so it's going to be memorialized. So yeah, that that is my thank you, mr. Mayor I think I just want to make sure that I explain that in the question that I asked It wasn't even close to what I had said though. It wasn't even the Description wasn't close to what I was saying. And so that was and if I didn't go back and listen to it I wouldn't have even noticed but I did go back To listen to it and saw that it was not even close. Let us know what it is and we'll we'll review it I think I said I shared that in the email Okay Also, additionally, I mean if folks provide, you know One day, I hope we get to the point where we are translating all of our minutes And so that would be helpful And so I will say I take the mayor's Words to heart because that will actually make that process fundamentally easier if there's written Because to go because it is to go back Not only for an english speaker, but a whatever other language we're translating into so it's it will be double Work. So if folks do have lengthier comments, then I I can see where the Practice of submitting written to the clerk if that's how you want them captured Is a is potentially a good practice? Yes, that would be great. Well, so let me just I'm trying to Think about What councilmember middleton said too? um, because I think that's important that is Madam clerk I'll just say that from my standpoint If someone says for the record To me that doesn't mean that you therefore have to get every word in their remarks I think you can still summarize their remarks and then you can we all can do what councilmember freeman said which is You know, we read them in it and I've done this once or twice And I see well, that didn't really capture what I felt like I said. I'm going to let the clerk know That and And then you could do that But I want to make sure that there's a comfort level with the council and the clerk on that sort of procedure Anybody want to comment on that? Councilmember, I think you have your hand up I do mr. I do mr. I thank you. I think that's entirely reasonable I will confess that it had never occurred to me That use of the phrase for the record would trigger some kind of verbatim Transcription in the minutes themselves um, I have to say I'm I don't Yeah, I agree with you mr. Mayor. That's probably not strictly speaking necessary Given the fact that anyone can go back and listen to the auditor or watch the video On the on the nature of the summaries themselves I think I just want to say That a lot of times I know that I try to make a point In remarks to the council that is sometimes Only clear to me and sometimes and sometimes not even clear to me And so I would just want to say that as I go back and read through Minutes I try I want you to know that with respect to my own comments I will be incredibly charitable About uh, about you not getting what I was trying to say because like I said oftentimes It's not reasonable to assume that someone would know what I'm saying But I appreciate the effort And the work that goes into it And if I see something that I think does violence to what I was trying to say I make sure to let you know so thanks for that and I appreciate the opportunity to comment Thank you So, mr. Mayor, are you suggesting that we that the phrase on the record would not trigger A verbatim record that we would have to ask the clerk I would like this recorded verbatim or provide it later as an alternative. Yeah, I think that that sounds good I also didn't it didn't ever I mean, I think I don't ever use that phrase But it didn't occur to me that that phrase was in any way Um a notice to the clerk to record minutes in a different way than they would usually have done Everybody good Madam clerk. Yes Thank you. All right. Thanks everybody appreciate that Okay, I will move on now to item 14 item 14 is um The lease the museum of history. I believe A council member freeman. Did you pull this item the lease to the Durham Museum? History means I had a couple questions, but I think you pulled it as well Yes, I did My question was specific to just how long um And whether there was a plan in place regarding this location. I know that um Hold on Hi, David Good afternoon. Um good afternoon David pleischer general services department. Can you hear me mr. Mayor? Yes, we can Thank you, uh, the what the term of this lease is 15 years to allow for the museum to Exercise their capital campaign and raise long-term funding. However The city has indicated that we don't have a specific use for this property over the next 10 years So we built into the lease a 10-year clawback Where we could give them at the 10-year mark a two-year notice to vacate the property and again The example we thought of of what we the city is holding that property for and what we could use it for in the future Is some reconfiguration of the downtown loop and so we want to keep that property in our back Thank you. Thank you, mr. Fletcher. Um councilmember freeman any other questions And I'm and when I said the How long I mean like how long for the five years and and then the five years There's a point. Is there a plan already in place? for for how long it would be in that downtown location The museum has not indicated where they're going to go in the long-term future However, we've given them this 15-year term and at that time the city has the ability To either allow them to exercise their two more five-year options to renew totaling a total of 25 years But again, we're thinking of 15 years plus five plus five and after the first 10 years We have the clawback to allow us to request that they vacate the property So for the record, there's no location identified elsewhere Correct. There's nothing going on right now. Yeah, okay, correct Thank you Thank you very much. Those were actually I had similar questions. Thank you very much. Anybody else have any questions for mr. Fleischer Hugs a mayor Thank you, mr. Mayor. Happy holidays to you too All right. Thank you I will now move to item 15 amendment to the construction manager at risk cma cmar contract For the Hoover Road project and councilmember Freeman. You also pull this item I actually was just trying to get an update. I'm not familiar with the Hoover Road project And so I wasn't sure if it was If it was I think there was something a couple years ago that came up, but I wasn't sure if it was the same or if it was something different Okay Good afternoon. We're across very gentle services. Mr. Presbury. Welcome Uh, so this is a brand new park out off of Hoover Road. It is a Primarily for soccer. There's going to be four new soccer fields Uh, you know parking lots restrooms It's like a 50 acre park What else can I tell you about the project? So this and this is the park. I'm sorry. This is the park wheels Yeah, and I think I'm thinking about the bowling alley. That's why okay Okay, that's separate So the project was previously seen for the design phase as well as the pre-construction for the construction manager at risk All right. All right any other questions for mr. Presbury Thank you so much. I am super excited about this. I am so excited that we are going to be building these fields That is awesome. And uh, it's going to be an excellent project. It is and congratulations to the administration for Pushing through this and being so opportunistic and acquiring the land and I'm very very excited. So thank you Thank you All right, uh, we'll now move to item 21 Uh, this is item utility extension agreement the vc owner llc and this was a council member freeman I'm sorry. I'm toggling through to try to keep my email that has all of it in there Thank you time This was uh, I'm sorry. This is an item 21 21 the vc owners llc just noting, um That the reimbursement the way that the way that it's set up is that we're reimbursing The the organization For this utility extension. So they're paying up front Uh, this is a robert joiner of public works engineering. Uh, that is correct council member freeman We are they are paying all of the cost up front and we are reimbursing after we receive all inspection reports And confirmation of all paid items by the contractor And is that the normal procedure? I'm sorry That is the normal procedure for reimbursement That's all. Thank you. Okay. Any more questions for mr. Joyner Thank you, mr. Joyner Thank you all I'll now move to item 22 And I believe I'll pull this item. This is the virtual chief information security officer planning services and um My question is Is this inspired by our recent? Troubles And what how will this? I understood reading the memo that there was a That we need more support in this area and that we had one person who was kind of overseeing this and I think it referred to the fact that this is a single point of possible failure and we needed a kind of broader level of support, but Just wanted to understand a little bit more about what this is about Carrie good co director of technical solutions Um, let me say that this was part of our growth of our cyber security program We we had planned to hire senior cyber security analysts and obesity. So SOC services and as enhancements to our cyber security program Before we could deploy all of this we got hit with a malware event So what we did in the emergency we brought? Securrence on quicker through an emergency type procurement to get his assistance in the recovery process, but Securrence have been working with the city for the last several years and doing security audits And uh, recently they've responded to an RFP and become I would be CISO So they were very very familiar with our network Beyond what a typical vendor would know and that's why we were so successful in recovery because we had Then those and partners that already were experts on our network Great, thank you That's that's good to understand Are there other questions for mr. Good? I also had questions and I just wanted to know if you thought that this was going to be solved And having the contractor versus bringing on additional staff Yeah, and thought strategy, um It in my opinion and based on my experience of knowledge Uh having a single CISO internally brings risk of turnover having a having a company like Securrence who have several employees in the V. CISO Gives us more resiliency in the event that we have a crisis. So um for services that are critical like network support and And and managed security services. It's more effective in my opinion to have a managed services versus employees unless We could have a deep bench where we have several doing security within the organization And that wouldn't be as efficient as having a managed services type contract Thank you Thank you councilmember freeman and thank you mr. Good. Um, any other questions on this contract? I do have one other question Which is why you're here with us if you could just give us a brief update on where we are in our recovery and What we think we still need to do Okay, uh, the recovery is going very well. Uh, I was even surprised myself how fast we were able to get our business system back in production Then we got them back in two days Two working days. We had our core business system back in production um right now The the effort in the public safety looks we're almost 100 percent recovered is mainly in the endpoint or the uh, Workstations arena that we're working today and we got About 2,500 to 2,600 uh workstations re-image and cleared Uh, we just need to redeploy them in the in the facilities Um, and that's going very well. We have a small contingent Instead of all that comes in a couple days a week to continue working on that um But I have to say that it's it's drawing to a closure and by the end of april I anticipate we've been back to normalcy as far as this uh event Of being being behind us We have hardened every server and every workstation And it's working very well anytime activity occurs that's suspicious the workstation gets shut down And we have to resolve it same thing with our servers So everything has been hardened uh, I think that puts in a position that I don't believe that an attack can bring us down um rapidly anymore because uh, we got sentinel on every workstation and every server And also we got infusion point security operation services monitoring on that work 24-7 So I feel much more confident that we're in a better position today. Give me word when I get a good Thank you so much and congratulations to you and your team Thank you. Congratulations to deputy city manager page and all of the pre-planning that you all did I am so impressed with The fact that we you know, we just did very very well and uh I'm just so grateful for all the pre-planning that you all did that made that possible I mean, we thank you and counsel your support of the budget that we requested that allowed us to and the city manager's office allow us to Prepare like we did because it was the preparation that made the difference College anything else for uh, um for mr. Good Carrie, thank you Thank you. We appreciate you Thank you Now we'll move on to item 23 item 23 is um ashton This is supplemental item. Uh Ashton plays development loan commitment I had a question about that Yes, madam. I pretend thank you. Um regional Do you have a sense of the timeline on the tax credit application for that project? Yes, uh, regional johnson director department of community development The application is due in may the middle of may and we expect to hear results in august Great, thank you and we're submitting. Um, if I remember correctly at the same time as the dha projects. Is that right? Yes, that is correct. So depending on which one if we get a tax credit Depending on which one gets selected. We'll just put resources into that one first Yes, ma'am. Okay. And do we I know in the past there have been other projects in the city of durham that haven't gone Through the city or through the dha That have been put into the tax credit process Do we have any sense of whether there are other developers that are submitting for durham projects this round? Uh, uh, may I pretend we don't have any that I know of uh, richard valzanes is on this call as well He may have some additional additional information, but right now we are not aware of any Thank you Um, do we know how the dha? um Application scored I'll have to add defer to richard valzanes. He may know the answer on that question. Okay. Uh, good afternoon richard valzanes for community development Can you hear me? Yes, we can mr. Valzanes. Welcome. Thank you. Good afternoon Uh Two responses. I think the uh, the city of durham. There's only three Applications that were submitted to To the north god housing housing finance agency Uh from the city And then what was the second question? What what would those three first of all there was There was the housing authority There was the Oh correct the site score is correct all three sites received the perfect score Great. And what was the third site? So I think the housing authority submitted two sites and I oh, that's right. Yeah, right and then we submitted the third Okay, great. Thanks Thank you very much So does that mean we have no idea which one Will get an award if any if they all that this morning that they were all perfect scores Uh, yes, ma'am. We don't know this. Do you have to continue with the process? What we do know is that if they did not receive a perfect site score and there was one point less That seriously diminishes that particular project's opportunity for success. So, uh Thank you. That's helpful Do we so this is a this this um Commitment is contingent on them being selected project Are we also anticipating hearing from the housing authority for gap financing? Ahead of time for their potential project Yes, yes, sir. We are actually we're due to receive some information from them this afternoon Great. Thank you very much. I really appreciate the foresight that this represents Uh, it's great to see us working so closely with our affordable housing partners So, uh, reginal congratulations to you and the department. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, richard Any other questions? Oh, yes. I have one more question for you, reginal The land cost does 925 thousand dollars for land I thought the land was I'm going to uh defer to richard. I was honest on that question. Okay So, ma'am shul if you recall the 925 thousand is for the additional parking it was included as part of the phase one construction If you recall, we included parking for the second phase of development in the phase one construction So that's what that 925 is for Kind of their share of the parking correct. Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. Thank you any other questions uh for Mr. Johnson or mr. Bell's honest Thank you guys so much. We appreciate you. Thank you. All right. Thank you, ma'am council um on my uh Mr. Manager, I believe the item that I raised is the final item on our agenda. Is that correct? Uh, that's correct. Mr. Mayor So colleagues, um I got a call from a private foundation local that would like to donate money to the city um They're giving money to Various they're planning to give money to other private organizations But to the city for the specific purposes of immediate use for very emergent needs Such as feeding our children I talked to tom about this and One of the things that we need to do is, you know, there's a process that has to happen when we get money I discuss with this potential donor that it You know that they might want to give it directly to Another organization that can move more quickly they um Said that they didn't they wanted to give it to the city for us to use But for these uses mainly because they're giving to some of these other organizations anyway They're about to give to some of these organizations and they want to spread it around So my concern is that These emergency needs are truly emergency needs that feeding people They you know, they're talking about mainly helping with feeding and homelessness And so I wanted us to Give an advanced approval to our administration when they received these funds That they didn't have to wait to come back to us to obligate Uh, they could come they could obligate them and then uh, you know, expend them and then could come back to us for um a future approval Uh, and so that's what I wanted to do And it's something that we could do that today and wanted to hear from you all your thoughts on that councilmember councilmember caballero yeah, just curious as to what I guess how would that work with the city just I know that we're working on the Housing our homeless population in hotels I know that there is conversations between dps the county and the city and the dps foundation around a countywide Food plan is the idea that it would go To support those efforts. Yeah Okay Yes, that would be the idea. That's the idea of the funder. They're gonna put some Parameters around it, but they're going to be Exactly the parameters that we know are our most emergent needs which are support for homelessness work and support for Feeding students and seniors um the the um And and so I think that what would be good, you know, what we would be doing is empowering the manager to say Working, you know, this money would then go to those groups that are doing that one That's yeah, that makes sense. So to brief To refund a look back to the nonprofits who are here. Yes. Yeah, so I have a follow-up question I know I know some of my other colleagues have questions. Is it okay if I just keep going? Absolutely. Please do all your questions. Yeah, um As we identify needs in our community and this you raise this sum on monday night when we were thinking about The work that the city is is venturing into around supporting our small business owners And the folks who are not able to access, you know, they're not going to get a stimulus check things like that We know that within the undocumented community rent assistance and cash assistance often for rent is huge We also know that folks are getting evicted even though it's not supposed to be happening and that they're they're not even getting counted in our numbers and so as these types of um philanthropic dollars may become to us or we hear about things I just hope that Really seeing that need and that these are communities who often have nothing else other than What we can cobble together locally? so Just basically this is a plea to not forget that as we Think about how we're supporting our residents Thank you. I think that I Especially think as we do our small business work. That's going to have to be where a gap that we fill Um and agree with you any other Comments or questions councilmember capiato No, thank you. Okay councilmember middleton Thank you. Uh, and I want to thank councilor caballero I want to associate myself with her her comments and concerns as well. She she really provided the on ramp for my Uh line of inquiry and that is how wide a berth of discretion Uh, do we have in terms of spending? I don't know how much money we're talking about So I don't know how many people we can help or how many organizations we can help But would it be helpful for us to perhaps give some type of prioritization like feeding kids as first Uh eviction assistance for immigrant community second or business Need second. I'm just wondering would that be helpful or Or do the manager I don't want to unduly burden the manager with with making the determination as to what is Truly priority if if we can Help him with that vision If that makes sense. Yeah makes sense. Uh, let me ask the manager. Do you have any thoughts about what will be helpful? Mr. Mayor and Mayor's of the council, I mean, the one I'm most familiar with that we've had spent the most time on is the feeding the children and through the Durham Public Schools Foundation. I'm not aware of the other issues that I think probably would need more structure around. I think it's possible that we could look for another foundation to provide or maybe do some incremental funding, depending on the need of the foundation. But my sense and in the calls you've been on and I've been on is that there's a tremendous need around this feeding issue, particularly with the changes that took place, the decisions that took place from Durham Public Schools about what they were able to do or not with the capacities they had. So, I think I'm familiar with the dollar amount that you have mentioned, even though you may not be in a position to talk about that today. And I think that, quite frankly, would be used up pretty quick before we started parsing that up into smaller and smaller amounts. I'm not sure it would be that helpful. Not that those other issues aren't going to be on our plate, but for this amount of money, it's probably be more administrative burden to start carving it out and thinking about other foundations or groups that would administer the funds. And hopefully there'll be other opportunities through other foundations and grants that will be coming that we can look for that as well. Thank you, Mr. Manager. Council Member Caballero. Yeah, just real quick. I assume with this amount of money, it would go to the countywide feeding plan because we know that that's a huge need more just as if these other kinds of opportunities come up where other films or epic dollars come our way that we do have a process and identified nonprofits who are meeting the needs. Durham Lane Trust, DCLT has put out rent assistance. The Immigrant Solidarity Fund is already out of money. I think we're gonna keep seeing that. So just to name a few moving forward. Yeah, I think that I appreciate all of these comments. I think that my assumption is that most charitable dollars won't come directly to the city. They'll go to other places. I think this will not probably be unique but pretty unique. And so I think we could, I mean, yeah, that's my thought. I mean, we may be getting more, but I think mainly we're gonna be being asked for money for, you know, and wanting to provide some funding where we can to some of these key of our own, you know, to some of these key causes. Other thoughts, comments? Council Member Freeman. Thank you. I appreciate all the conversation and just wanted to add that it's beyond just the feeding for children and for seniors and the homelessness. There's also costs associated with putting loved ones to rest that's not been identified. Any resources have been identified to assist with that. And then noting that specifically with the work we've been doing at Durham Children's Initiative it's been really helpful to know that not just trying to give folks the food itself, it's my guesstimation from folks who have expressed their needs that they'd rather have the cash which has come in the form of gift cards and resources that folks would be able to use however they need it. And so noting that, you know, when we say food it also includes toilet paper and paper towel when it's available on a timeframe. You know, if it's only available Wednesday morning when the shipment comes in, those are things that are also important to acknowledge and making sure it's not just charity, it's development. And I really appreciate Council Member Caballero's comments around acknowledging the equity of this conversation and that everybody doesn't need to get the same thing. And it's about what folks need. And so I just wanna make sure I highlight that. And then also adding that, I know El Centro's also been doing a lot of work around supporting folks in Durham. And I wanna make sure that they're highlighted along with Together for Resilient Youth. Thank you. Thank you very much. And the Communities in Partnership. Thank you. Okay. I guess what I would like is a motion that we empower the city manager. Mr. Mayor, I think Bernetta was seeking recognition. Oh, I'm sorry. Does she have something to say? I do. If it's not too late. This is your last chance. It's my last chance. I'll just say on this item, you know, I think the work ahead of us and the amount of money that we're gonna all gonna need to recover from COVID-19 is beyond daunting. But I just wanna appreciate however much money this is, appreciate this philanthropic gesture. And, you know, yeah, just expressed gratitude that we can have a conversation about how to negotiate these funds. That's all. Thank you. Mr. Mayor, I did have a final nuts and bolts question. Yeah. And once the money comes to us and we disperse it, I mean, we can say that it was from a philanthropic source but people are gonna see it as the city spending money. So I'm just curious, insofar as the county's feeding program was implemented through the schools and we've stopped that, I'm not sure what the feeding program looks like right now. So would we be just right with you? I can talk about that a little. Would that be helpful? Absolutely, absolutely not. I'll suspend. Yeah, thank you. I didn't mean to interrupt you though. Oh, not at all. Not at all. Okay. Right now, so one of the nice things about having a meeting from home is that my neighbor is mowing the grass. Can you hear it? Okay. Well, I can hear it. It's really loud. So the Durham Public Schools Foundation is stepping into the breach to replace the feeding program of the Durham Public Schools had to give up because of the staffing situation that they had. Durham Public Schools this Monday gave out meals for students to go for this currently. But starting next week, the Durham Public Schools Foundation is going to be also setting up multiple sites as the schools have using a lot of those same sites, working with local restaurants, especially minority caterers and restaurants to provide meals. And they have the raising of private dollars for that. I know that they have significant dollars, but if we're talking that the schools was feeding 55 kids, 5,500 kids every day. And so to feed that many kids, the foundation is going to need a lot of money. And so they are reaching out for volunteer site coordinators. The plan is, I'm gonna say these things, Council Member Middleton, and I may get a few of the details wrong, but I'm getting to closing. They're gonna try to have each site open a couple of times a week, not every day so that they can minimize contact between both the people receiving the food and the people who are doing the work. They're gonna have site coordinators, some public school and other staff, as well as volunteer site coordinators who will be trained. And they will be depending on private donations of which they have already received hundreds of thousands, but they will need a lot more to do the job. So I think that's all I know, pretty much. So would it be fair to conceive of us just writing a check to the DPS Foundation? Might that be what this disbursement looks like? Could be. I mean, that's what I actually, the manager and I had talked earlier and said to the donor, would you consider writing a check to the DPS Foundation? And they said, or another possibility would have been to Duke, the fund that Duke set up for Durham Recovery, which is gonna go a lot to this lot of the same places. They said, we really wanna write, we're writing checks to these other groups, we want it to write a check to the city. And we could certainly turn around and write that check to their public schools. Right, and I wanted to say, we haven't seen yet there, they may put some, the reason I wanna leave it a little flexible is they may put some strictures around the money. They may say, it's gonna go to these emergent needs, but they might say half needs to go to homelessness support and half needs to go to feeding care. You know what I mean? So I don't wanna put too much of a stricture and say, hey, it'll just go to this. But I think that if we just say to the manager, these, we want you to use this money for the most emergent needs. And you leave it to his discretion, but you heard what his preference is. Yes. Okay. All right, thank you. I'll yield. Any other thoughts? Jeff, also noting. Just also noting that the folks who are confined to their location delivery also needs to be an option. Cause there are some folks who are pretty much, going through that 14 day incubation period. And so just like noting, I don't know how DPS Foundation is set up to do that, but I know that DCI is doing that. That's awesome. I'm not sure. I know that there was, I know there's been discussion of mobile feeding, but I don't know how that's been resolved. I assume it has to do with two things, the amount of money they're able to raise and the amount of volunteers that they're able to mobilize that can do that. Alrighty, I would appreciate a motion that would authorize the city manager in receipt of this private donation in the next 10 days from a private donor for emergent needs related to COVID-19 to authorize him to be able to spend that money and bring back a report to us later on how he did so. Second. Thank you. So we have a motion and a second for the motion that I articulated and I'm gonna ask if there's any further discussion. If not, oh, I'm sorry, Councilor Middleton. Yes, Mr. Mayor, there's no amount in this. Do we need to specify not to exceed the amount received from the, they're voted. We haven't specified an amount. An amount not to exceed the amount we receive from the donor. Gotcha. Thank you. Thank you. Anybody else? All right. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed, no. The ayes have it. The motion passes unanimously. Mr. Manager, I believe we have done our business. We need to settle the agenda. Thank you, Mr. Mayor, members of council. I too am competing with a leaf blower. So if you can't hear me, I apologize. I'm not sure that I wanna officially make this comment for the record, but I know that for virtual work, session, we went through conceivably 23 items and a little bit less than an hour. And that might be something that we want to take into consideration for future sessions about how efficient we can be. No sign. Officially we can be in these virtual environments. But in any event, I want to also thank you and thank all of the staff who I thought did an excellent job today jumping in and keeping track. Karmisha Wallace kind of helped coordinate a lot of this and shepherd it behind the scenes and Beverly to get us to this point, but very pleased with the way today went. And we can continue to learn and see if this is the right platform for us to use. For the agenda though, do you have items on consent, one, two and three and five to 23. And then after council acts on that, I have one other thing I wanna mention. I'll move, we settle the agenda. Thank you. Second. It's been moved and second that we settle the agenda. All in favor, please say aye. Aye. Opposed no. Thank you, we have settled the agenda. Mr. Manager. Yeah, so if you'll recall, Monday evening during the council meeting, Bertha Johnson was talking about some budget, kind of high level budget discussions and the request that we would be making to have the council hold an initial general budget discussion sometime in April. We did suggest the day I believe it was the 23rd of April, which would be a long day because we have a work session that day. And we've realized that's probably not a good option for a lot of people who are working from home with children in various other situations. So I just wanted to let you know that Bertha will be working with Diana to suggest a couple of alternate days or dates this third or fourth week in June, just to be looking for that. As quick as you can check your calendars once we pull that together and get back with us, we can start strategizing about what are the agenda topics that we want to brief you all on that day. That's all I wanted to mention. Thank you, Mr. Manager. Let me just ask just to put on everybody's radar a little that there are two things that we haven't done yet in terms of moving this. Well, there are three different things I guess that one is that just the continuing thinking about how to receive public comment. Second is public hearings. I know the administration is thinking about how we do public hearings, but just wanted to mention that to everybody that's coming. And then the third thing is for the city attorney we had discussed prior to COVID-19, the potential of a closed session regarding a legal case. And I wonder how we, is that still something you feel that we should do? I mean, we thought it would be helpful to do it because it is potentially important. And at the same time, we're in this great situation. I wonder if you had any comments about that. So Mr. Mayor, we haven't gotten a whole lot of guidance from, I haven't gotten a whole lot of guidance from my peers or from the UNC School of Government regarding holding closed sessions through these virtual platforms. One of the thoughts that I had because the case I did want to discuss is a case that has been previously mediated. We are thinking about trying mediation again in the case. The trial is not scheduled until August in this case. And so you all have been given a lot of background information on the case. And I thought I might just reach out to each of them to update you. And rather than try to do, there are some platforms that provide breakout rooms, but I just think that's a little bit complicated. And to keep it, I'll just bring you up to speed on where we are in the discussions. Perfect, thank you. All right, colleagues, thank you also very much. There being no more business to come before this body, I'm gonna declare this meeting adjourned at 2.06 p.m. Love you, Bernetta. We love you, we miss you already. Yeah, we do. It's the worst, but we're so excited. Thanks y'all, appreciate y'all. Hopefully you'll still be representing me very soon. I hope so too. Keep up the good work, everybody. I'll talk to y'all very soon. Thank you, thanks everybody. Do the thing.


So what we have out here are different sets of cations and we need to figure out their relative stabilities So let's start by looking at this set of cations Well out here. I have a carbon cation that has these methyl groups that are attached to it, right? Now we have seen that in such cases hyper conjugation is possible for hyper conjugation to take place We need an sp3 carbon atom that has at least one hydrogen We need an sp3 containing one hydrogen atom at least one hydrogen atom That's directly connected or we can say that's at the alpha position of a carbocation, right? So whenever we have a carbocation or more specifically whenever we have a carbon with an MTP orbital and if there is an sp3 carbon atom at the alpha position of this carbocation at the first position of this carbocation containing at least one hydrogen atom We call this the alpha hydrogen the alpha hydrogen then The sigma bond between this carbon and hydrogen can actually overlap with this MTP orbital, right? This is what we call a hyper conjugation hyper conjugation and a greater number of this alpha hydrogen's presence of a greater number of alpha hydrogen's Implies greater chances of this kind of sigma pi overlap and because this kind of overlaps Ultimately shifts some of the electron density of this sigma bond to this electron deficient cation So therefore a greater number of alpha hydrogen ultimately means a more stable cation, right? Let us now take a look at these cations Well, as you can see in this cation, this is a third degree cation There are three sp3 carbon atoms that are at the alpha position of this cation and all of this has 33 hydrogen's attached to it So that's going to be a grand total of a Nile alpha hydrogen's out here that can undergo hyper conjugation and If you compare it with this cation Then this has only two sp3 carbon atoms directly attached to it. So there are only six alpha hydrogens out here while this one has only three alpha hydrogens and This doesn't have any sp3 carbon atom attached to it. So this does not have any alpha hydrogen, right? So there's only there's no alpha hydrogen out here Now because a greater number of alpha hydrogen means a greater stability So therefore this third degree cation is going to be more stable than this one compared to this and this, right? Let us now move to our second set of cations In fact, why don't you just pause the video and take a shot at this particular question? Pause the video and try to arrange these cations in order of their increasing stability Well out here the cation is placed Exactly here at this terminal position and we only have this carbon atom this sp3 carbon atom That's directly attached to it, right? Now this carbon has one to three bonds So this means that this has one hydrogen attached out here as a neutral carbon always has four bonds, right? So this cation has one alpha hydrogen attached to it, right? Now if you look at this cation, this has three sp3 carbon atoms that are directly attached to it at the alpha position And this one is going to have three hydrogen atoms attached to it This is going to have another three hydrogen atoms attached to it and this carbon is going to have one more hydrogen attached to it, right? So there's going to be a grand total of one two three four five six seven alpha hydrogens out here So there'll be more number of hyper conjugating structures out here. There'll be greater hyper conjugation here So this is going to be definitely more stable than this cation, right? Now finally if you look at this cation, then this has these carbon atoms that are directly attached to it and If we count the total number of alpha hydrogens, then this carbon has two bonds So there's going to be two hydrogen atoms attached out here This one too is going to have two hydrogens and this is going to have only one hydrogen out here, right? So the total number of alpha hydrogens is going to be one two three four five So this is going to have five alpha hydrogens attached to it, right? So clearly number Two this one. Let's let's name this. Let's call this B Because B has more number of alpha hydrogens So therefore B is going to be more stable compared to C Which is going to be more stable compared to A, right? Let us now take a look at these cations Okay Can take place Whenever we have a carbon with an empty pure battle, right? So instead of having a carbon cation per se, we can also have an Alken so we can have a carbon double bond carbon out here So let's say we have something like CH3 CH double bond CH2 This is exactly what I've drawn out here. So there's a Pi bond between these carbon atoms and There's an sp3 carbon atom. That's directly attached to this pi bond, right? Now the electrons in this pi bond. They are not static. They are moving around So it might so happen that both of these electrons they move over here right So if you move both of these electrons out here Then we are going to get a cation out here and I'm going to have a CH2 minus out here, right? So this is going to become negatively charged and this is going to be positively charged Now if this happens This carbon hydrogen sigma bond can once again overlap with this empty orbital that's being created, right? So this is also a possibility. So hyper conjugation can also take place whenever we have an sp3 carbon atom containing at least one hydrogen Attached to an alkene, right? So if you look at this particular cation We have this sp3 hybridized carbon atom that's directly connected to a double bond, right? Now this carbon also has this hydrogen atom attached to it. So we can have hyper conjugation out here This carbon hydrogen sigma bond can overlap out here and this pi electrons can move over to this carbon atom, right? So this will lead to a new hyper conjugating structure. That's going to look like this Now this lone pair of electrons that are formed over this carbon atom can then Resonate it can move out here and this pi electrons can move over to this carbon atom, right? So this will lead to a new resonating structure. That's going to look like this and the moment this happens The moment we have a lone pair of electron connected directly to a cation So there's an empty p orbital over this cation and we have this lone pair of electrons So both of this can overlap and this will lead to the formation of a pi bond out here, right? So therefore Because of hyper conjugation because of hyper conjugation out here This carbocation is getting ultimately stabilized, right? Now coming back if I look at this particular cation, especially if I look at this particular system You can see that there are three alpha hydrogens that are connected to this alkene, right? So this has three alpha hydrogens While this one only has two While this only has one alpha hydrogen that can undergo hyper conjugation with this alkene So it only has one alpha hydrogen while this doesn't even have a single hydrogen atom that can undergo hyper conjugation, right? So this does not have any alpha hydrogen Now because of this particular reason This cation cannot be stabilized by hyper conjugation by this particular group that we have attached out here While the greatest hyper conjugating stability will be imparted by this particular group as it has the greatest number of alpha hydrogens That can undergo hyper conjugation, right? So therefore this particular cation is going to be more stable compared to this compared to this Let's do another question. This time we need to compare the stability of alkenes rather than the stability of cations So how do you do that? Now in alkenes because hyper conjugation leads to delocalization of these pi electrons Because hyper conjugation leads to the delocalization of of these pi electrons So therefore a greater number of alpha hydrogen atoms means greater number of hyper conjugating structures And therefore a greater delocalization of these pi electrons And because delocalization of these electrons ultimately leads to an increased stability So therefore greater the number of alpha hydrogen more stable will be my alkene, right? So if we apply this to our given problem So if we apply this out here You can see that there are only two alpha hydrogens that can undergo hyper hyper conjugation in butte 1 in While in butte 2 in there are six alpha hydrogens that can undergo hyper conjugation So therefore butte 2 in is going to be more stable than butte 1 in, right? Similarly coming to this particular problem There are these three carbon atoms that are attached at the alpha position of this alkene And because every carbon every neutral carbon has four bonds So there are these hydrogens attached out here, right? So this one is going to have three hydrogens out here And this is going to have another two hydrogens out here So there's going to be three four five six alpha hydrogens out here While if we look at this particular alkene it only has one two three alpha hydrogens While this one only has one two Three four alpha hydrogens, right? So this has four alpha hydrogens attached out here So stability wise Let's call this a b and c So stability wise a is going to be more stable compared to c which is going to be more stable compared to b, right?