Assalamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. Welcome to the live Facebook, the show that discusses theological arguments from the book Haqqa Yaqeen by Sayyid Shabbar. Last episode we were discussing one of the attributes of Allah SWT to do with his power or powerful omnipotent, Qadir Qudra. And we're looking at how the creation also reflects and depicts the power and the omnipotence of Allah SWT. Insha'Allah we're going to continue our discussion with a new topic where we look at the creator of the universe. Now we have two arguments in the world today in regards to the creator of the universe. We have that the creator and the sustainer and the one that maintains the universe is Allah SWT or a God. And the other is Mother Nature. Mother Nature was the one that created the universe. Mother Nature is the one that sustains and maintains the universe. Insha'Allah we'll discuss more with my co-host, Sheikh Mohammed Abbas Banjo. Assalamu alaikum sheikhna wa alaikum salam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh. How are you this evening? Alhamdulillah wa shukr. Always a pleasure to be with you. So sheikhna, we have these two ideas or these two arguments. One is saying that God is the creator of the universe and the one that maintains and sustains the universe. The other is Mother Nature. What is Mother Nature and is Mother Nature? Being is an actual mother or it is Mother Nature. Are they trying to say that the world kind of takes care of itself, self-sufficient? KT Leverik. Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim. When it comes to understanding the force that is responsible for the creation of everything within existence and then the maintenance if you could say of everything within existence you'll find that it is very helpful and it is actually imperative for a person to understand the sifat of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and hence you will find that within the manhaj of the mutakallimin, within the manhaj of the ulama who have put forward this manhaj of ilmul kalam seeking or walking in the line of the ahlu al-bayt. You will see that even the chapters and the topics, subtopics within the classical texts of usuluddin are very logically placed such that questions like the one you have just posed to me are answered systematically. From the many theories that exist out there or the many beliefs that exist out there in regards to the force that is responsible for the creation or that maintains this creation when it comes to answering the argument or tackling this argument between a God which all Abrahamic fates believe in or mother nature it is important that this answer to this question we will try and address it by looking at two of the sifat of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, the sifat of Allah Azza wa Jal being muhtar and we will come to the meaning of the word muhtar and the second one is murid, murid meaning or derived or one of the derivatives of the word being irada, one of the verbal constructions irada yuriduh inna ma, for example inna ma yuridullahu li yudhiba ankumur ridjah ahlu al-bayt wa yutahirakum tatheera Allah ma sulleh ala Muhammad wa ala Muhammad. By having an understanding of these two sifat of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala even at a very basic or at a very shallow level it will be able to help us understand and to answer the question whether it is Allah or it is mother nature. So we will attempt to answer this question over the period of this show but by referring back to the text and understanding the sifat of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and then seeing whether these sifat are applicable on this force called mother nature and then perhaps if we have time try to understand even though I'm not an expert in mother nature or the definition of mother nature or the belief of mother nature but hassab the information that is available we will try and see whether these characteristics are applicable negate it or what it is maybe we find out there is another creator called mother nature you will see from the answers that come forth and where our discussion takes us if we begin with the sifat of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala in that Allah az-zawajal is muhtar. Muhtar means Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has iqtiyaar iqtiyaar means very loosely translated he has free will in his actions free will in the sense that he has choice to do or not to do he has absolute control over his actions and you find over here that he comes forward in introducing this concept of iqtiyaar iqtiyaar means Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is muhtar by saying over here from the sifat of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is that he is muhtar he has free will as we said he has a choice to either perform an action or not perform an action which consequentially means God is not forced obliged or subjected to an action or to performing an action and the example that is drawn out over here by the Sayyid is the example of fire and the property that fire has to burn so fire for example take fire for the sake of understanding this argument take fire to be a force this force has certain properties one of these properties is the property of heat you cannot have fire without heat and the second property of this force i.e fire is that it burns anything that comes into contact anything that comes into contact with this force fire will burn you put a piece of paper on the flame paper will burn you put your hand around the flame you will feel the heat or you'll feel the warmth so the fire as a force has certain attributes has certain properties and through these attributes and these properties actions then actualize themselves from the property of heat it gives us warmth and the property of that same heat and action is emanated in that the fire burns the paper having said this the force i.e fire as a force when it is exercising its attribute of burning anything that comes into contact with it does this fire as a force have choice in exercising that attribute or not the fire doesn't have any choice the character in the attribute it is inseparable in the sense that fire does not have choice that it will decide to burn one thing and decide not to burn something else or to keep something warm and not to keep something else warm so over here like the way we understand that fire being a force that also has attributes that emanate into action but it does not have a choice because it doesn't have a choice i.e that sefat or this attribute of muhtar cannot be in it this attribute cannot be separated does not have the ability to separate itself from the consequential results of this attribute and the same thing when it comes to the sun for example the sun being a force a force that provides heat for example the sun as a force does it have the ability to take away from itself the property of heat law because it does not have this ability i.e it is it cannot be a force that is self governing in itself it has to have a force higher than that that has actually created it with an inseparable property so when we look into the sefat of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala that Allah Azza wa Jal is muhtar he has absolute control over his actions to do or not to do and you find that within the Quran Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has mentioned or this sefat of Allah Azza wa Jal can be understood from a number of verses within the Quran and we always I think week in week out we say it is very important that we understand or we are able to prove our usuluddin and our akida from within the Quran not for the purpose of converting others or engaging in discussions and this is important perhaps secondary but most importantly for us she are itna ashari Muslims I need to have ikna I need to have absolute yakeen conviction in the concepts that I claim to believe in the word akida from the word okda I mean like a knot machine when you tie a knot it is so the knot is so firmly tied that if a person was to try and undo it he can't linguistically this is a meaning or this is the word through which the word akida is derived from akida I mean a belief that is so firm in your heart belief that you believe in so firmly nobody can convince you otherwise and you cannot abandon your faith for anything whatsoever and this is binal kaushain this is one of the problems that we see in today's day and age particularly when it comes to the concept of imama and with all due respect to all our viewers respected brothers and sisters in regards to a number of husainiyat imam bargas sometimes we tend to lean towards secular beliefs non-shi'i beliefs because that firm conviction is not there there are other forces other factors other beliefs other agendas that we feel are much more important than imama such that we are willing to let go of imama we're willing to let go of wilaya we're willing to discount the importance of wilaya in order to pursue other things why because that akida is not there that deep firm conviction is lacking and hence the starting point is always knowledge so it is important for us and even madrasa teaches whichever level of the community in which we are scholars ourselves we have to be firm in this belief for where did this concept or how are we able to prove the sefat of allah subhanahu wa ta'ala that he is muhtar there are a number of verses in the quran the one that i have picked out and one that alama shabbar rahmatullah alayh rahmatullah alayh the one that he points to in the book over here is you know i thought why did he pick this verse he's picked the worst verse from surah ala imran verse number 40 verse number 40 and this is the verse of the quran where allah subhanahu wa ta'ala in the quran outlines for us the event between or the event surrounding nabi zakariya and him being blessed with a child verse number 40 and i have reached such an old age and my wife is barren i mean defies all science defies the rules of biology ya rabbi a man is elderly in age perhaps doesn't have his wife is barren the biological reasons that are needed or the biological criterias that are needed to conceive the natural factors nature natural the natural factors that are needed to be in place in order for a child to be conceived are missing and despite that allah subhanahu wa ta'ala says this is how allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is allah does what he wills okay now i thought over here why did alama shabbar use this verse in the quran because this verse the last part of the verse qadalik allah yaf al umayah shah allah does whatever he wants it points towards two sefat of allah and it actually combines these two together the sefat of kudrah and the sefat of iqtiah so you find over here that when allah subhanahu wa ta'ala says qadalik allah yaf al umayah shah allah does whatever he wants the first indication from this part of the verse or the first sefat we are able to understand allah does whatever he wants yani allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is muhtar allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has free will allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has choice he could bless a couple with a child even if those biological scientific regions of factors that are needed to conceive are missing allah can do that and if he wills even for those people where everything biologically ticks the box according to nature ticks the box but allah subhanahu wa ta'ala can decide not to bless them with a child so this is the first netija or the first consequence or sorry consequence the first the result that is derived from this aspect the second conclusion which reinforces what we discussed last week that allah subhanahu wa ta'ala is wahu ala kulli shayin qadir allah subhanahu wa ta'ala has power over everything within the creation he has the power to alter the law of science if he wants and he has the power to enforce new laws of science if he wants so from here we understand that the first sefat of allah subhanahu wa ta'ala in that he is muhtar and he has absolute control and choice over his actions tell you now if we understand this aspect of the sefat of allah subhanahu wa ta'ala and we go back to our original question the original question being that is mother nature responsible for creation is mother nature responsible for the upkeep of this creation or is it allah subhanahu wa ta'ala so then we say that in answering this our first step is that we ask the question what is this force that we are referring to as mother nature who is mother nature what is mother nature how did mother nature come into existence or was it before even the realm of existence came into existence having said this the force of mother nature if on the premise we accept that mother nature is a force that has a role in the creation of this universe or in the maintenance of this creation or in the design of this creation then the next question that we ask is is mother nature muhtar in its afal or no does this force called mother nature does it have this power of choice and will or is this mother nature and the power associated to this perceived force this is on the premise that this force mother nature exists huh so it is a conditional argument this force mother nature does it have choice or does it not have choice wouldn't you say then it should have a conscience if it has a choice or some sort of you know um consciousness being if it has a choice does it have a consciousness you know it could be one of the questions that we ask you know is this a force that has wisdom behind it is it hakeem hakeem again from the sifat of allah subhanahu wa ta'ala does mother nature as a force have this sifat of hikmah and where can this sifat be uh deduced from when it comes to this concept of muhtar does mother nature as a force have this muhtlak will or not if we say that the forces of mother nature the force of mother nature and the power that it exercises in regards to the creation or the design of this universe its power is subjective just like the way we said in the beginning between the sun or the property the force of fire and its ability to burn and give heat if this force does not have choice then it cannot be a deity that is all powerful to begin with and it is through this sifat that we are able to invalidate by posing this question because there are many aspects or many aspects of creation that if they are attributed towards mother nature then this sifat of muhtar there is a question mark on it because if the force does not have free will it does not qualify to be all powerful if it does not qualify to be all powerful then it does not qualify to be worshiped because it no longer is that superpower deity in later layman tombs mashallah so let me let me get this right to just like you can conclude if there is such a thing that has you know ability to let's say look after the universe and take care of the world but it is doing it on without its own accord as in it has no choice it doesn't have a wisdom or knowledge behind to make a decisive decision to actually do this to maintain the universe right so even if it is you can maintain the universe because it is not making a conscious effort it is not worthy of being worshipped it is it does not qualify as the creator or being responsible for the creator in the same way as the sun people used to worship the sun because the sun was perceived as the force that gives light through which gives heat which is an important factor for life to survive for plants to grow yes however because the sun does not have this decisive power of separating itself from its attributes and its consequential actions we come to the conclusion that baba yes it is a force but not a force that is a creator a force that is a creation that demonstrates the power of the creator which is why you see that in one of the mannerisms in which nabiyullah ibrahim aleyhi salam when he debated with the people of his time and they said to him we worship the sun and they would worship the sun and in the evening when the sun sets he would say okay where is your god now where is your lord now so understanding the argument in this way see it also boils down to understanding i don't know how much time do we have before we go and break no i don't like we have minute half minute yes when it comes to understanding these arguments islam is not against science we've said this a number of times forces that we find in nature forces within this universal system of cause and effect as a muslim we believe in them in the sense that we do not negate the existence of these forces rather understanding the system of creation and understanding the system of cause and effect leads us to the conclusion that there is a deity who has put these who has put this system of cause and effect into existence we don't say that the from within the system of cause and effect that because we found the cause there is no other cause behind the cause we don't stop at the cause and say that this is the creator or there is no other creator because we are Mahdood within this system of cause and effect law we have to and this is where the intellect comes into play and this is where dean comes into play this is where the messages of the anbiya come into play when it comes to tawhid it is about discovering and understanding the cause behind the cause people during the time of nabiyullah ibrahim aleyhi salam they worship the sun the sun being the cause of life at a tahrir level nabiyullah ibrahim aleyhi salam came and said la this is a form of ignorance why because when you don't stop at that cause look at that cause behind the cause look at who is there to have brought this sun into existence who has put it into this nidam when obviously we say when the sun rises and the sun sets not in our system excuse me of the rotation of the earth and so on so forth ahsatu man more inshallah we'll go into detail uh after the break if you literally do it i said thank you very much inshallah to all the viewers please join us after break inshallah we'll continue the discussion here on the live facebook salam aleykum rahmatullahi wabarakatuh salam aleykum rahmatullahi wabarakatuh welcome back to the live facebook sheikhna before the break who were discussing uh you were saying that mother nature has two so far um and we're discussing muqtara allah subhanahu wa ta'ala being muqtara meaning that he has you know the the freedom of will he decides what he wants to do when he wants to and you uh show us a chronic aya uh surah imran aley imran verse 40 i believe it was yes um what's the second sifat you want to discuss the second sifat of allah subhanahu wa ta'ala being the sifat that allah azza wa jal is murid murid i mean that allah subhanahu wa ta'ala from one of his sifat is irada irada generally speaking ya ani he has will or intent or say when it comes to a theological perspective the appropriate word would be decree he has the power to decree and he has the power to ordain oh it is important to understand this sifat in that man also has the power of intent which means that man also has the power of irada and man is also murid does this mean that man is mushtarak man shares this character of irada with the lord of the universe if we say that man shares this attribute of allah at one level the creation and the creator man and allah share a common denominator and the and share a certain extent of power that is equa or man shares a form of intent that belongs to allah as per the teachings of ahlul bayt this sort of understanding is an understanding of shirk even though we find that this baseline understanding and this very very shallow summary is a concept which is propagated by a number of scholars within the muslim world shia unfortunately and non shia and this comes to it boils down to having tried to understand allah subhanahu wa ta'ala through a medium other than ahlul bayt and we will see how we tie this to this issue of mother nature you find over here that the issue of irada even within the classical mutakallimin they're divided i wouldn't say divided but they have differing opinions in regards to the exact meaning and the precise implication of this sefat irada and you find that even the way alama shabbar rahmatullah aley advances towards this topic is very different for example to the way that ayatullah for example ali husaini assadah rahmatullah aley a great alim from the ulama in terms of al mul kalam and perhaps if we have a chance we could speak about him at some point but the way he tackles this issue of irada in his text aqaid al haqqa which in essence is a brilliant is a brilliant book in al mul kalam to delve into and from the many texts that are out there available at the hausa level aqaid al haqqa by far you know as has been mentioned by the ulama and the maraja in naja of and in quam when it comes to understanding usuluddin from the manhaj of ahlul bayt the book aqaid al haqqa is by far one of the most comprehensive and one of the most important books that a person can come across when it comes to this journey irada so if we were to switch from the book haqqul yaqeen to aqaid al haqqa for this particular sefaat you will see over here that answering this question it says irada we said is intent but over here here he goes on to clarify the very beginning lakin iradatullah taftarik an iradatil makhlukeen the power of intent which is possessed by the creator is different from the power of intent possessed by the creation how far iradatullah yani the intent of Allah azawajal in itself is the action of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala The intent of God is the actions of God. See, for the human being, it is different. And, you know, this is why we say that some of these theories that come out, of wahdatil wujud, for example, or the theory of multiplicity, the unity of existence through multiplicity, in essence, is nothing but shirk at its purest level, through this theory of unity through multiplicity, apart from it being a logical fallacy. It doesn't hold, if you were to scale this argument as per the rules of logic, you'll find that you can't even lay the premises of the argument in a manner that is correct. So, apart from it being a logical fallacy, you see that it is actually the purest form of shirk. If there was any purity, the purity in terms of its resemblance to shirk, in that the Anbiya, for example, they came and they condemned those who took idols as partners of Allah SWT or attributed the sifat of Allah to the idols, and there were 300 and 400. Prophets came to condemn them, Nabi came and condemned them, and then, Subhanallah, you have people who come with theories where they say, there are 6 billion of Allah in any case. This, inshallah, is a discussion for its own. But the important thing over here to remember is this. And this is extremely important regardless of which stage of a journey you are when it comes to usuluddin, regardless of whether it is in the madrasa, regardless of whether it is Hausa ilmiya, what we have even been told by the ulama inside of the Hausa, and I remember this, always used to be mentioned to us in Sayyid al-Zaynab and in Najaf al-Ashraf, regardless of which stage the scholar is at, there is one thing that a person always has to keep in mind. And it's something very simple, but it's something very, very detrimental the deeper we go into our studies. And this is the verse of the Qur'an. Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim. Laysa kamithlihi shay. Laysa kamithlihi shay. Didn't say Laysa mithlihi. Kamithlihi, kaaf, yani kaaf of tashbih. They say in Arabic grammar, there is nothing like him. Baba, the Khaliq is absolutely separate from the mahluk. There can be no mushraq safat between the Khaliq and the mahluk, two separate entities all together. So when he comes over here, the author, Rahmatullah alayhi says, the irada of Allah, yani the intent of Allah, this attribute of intent, this attribute of having a decree, this intent or this attribute of giving a decree, of wanting to give a decree, for example, is different from that of a man. For you and I, when we say intent, meaning that where there is a process that the human being goes through, that there is an intent and then based on that intent, the action emanates from the man. With Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, this is for the mahluk. However, the Khaliq, the concept of irada is totally different where the intent is the action and the action is the intent. What is the proof for this? Sayyid al-Sadr goes through this and he quotes this hadith in Majma al-Bahrain, hadith on authority of Imam Rida, salawatullah wa salamu alayhi. Inna al-ibdaa, inna al-ibdaa wa al-mashi'a, wa al-iradaa, ma'anaa wa hadun, wa al-asmaa wa salatun. The concept of ibdaa, ya'ani, to bring into existence from non-existence and this concept of will and intent, ya'ani, decree, all of them, the meaning is one, but the names that are given to it are three. Fal mustafad min haadihi al-adilla, anna iradatullah ma'anaa haa, ihdaathuhu lil-ashyaa wa ibda'uhu wa fi'luhu lahaa, ya'ani, the intent of Allah is the action of Allah. The action of Allah is the intent of Allah. There is no time gap between the intent and the action in that Allah has to intend something and think about it and ponder and then the thought translates into an action, laa. Fa idhaa aradaa shay'an ayyakoo laa lahoo koon, fa yakoon. The intent is inseparable from the action and you find over here that this is a concept that is important and then there is a concept of iradaa which could be tied to the concept of the commands of Allah and the prohibitions of Allah, the wajibat, for example, and the muharramat and this is the line that Sayyid Shabbar goes down through. However, we will omit that for now because we want to also address this issue of mother nature and how this sifat will come to that. But having said that, let me just run by you one hadith. Insha'Allah. Over here in regards to the decree of Allah, because we said by iradaa intent, the other precise term would be decree, the decree of Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'ala. This is for the muwahid. Hadith is Sharif on authority of Amir al-Mu'mineen, salawatullahi wa salamuhu alayhi. Maula al-Muwahideen, master of all monotheists. And you know this title is very interesting for Amir al-Mu'mineen. Maula al-Muwahideen, the master of monotheists. If you are a monotheist, you have to have this belief in the will of Amir al-Mu'mineen. Monotheism becomes complete through Amir al-Mu'mineen, alaihi salam. It says in this hadith, actually Amir al-Mu'mineen is narrating a hadith a conversation that happens between Allah Az-Zawajal and Nabiullah Dawud. Let me give you a fada'il by way of ishara. I will stop at this, I will not spend too much time, I will go. Within this there is an indication of people who have Ma'arefa. This is a conversation between Allah Az-Zawajal and Nabiullah Dawud. Amir al-Mu'mineen is the one narrating this conversation between Allah and Nabiullah Dawud. Amir al-Mu'mineen doesn't mention, or the question is this, how did Amir al-Mu'mineen know? Of this conversation between Allah and Nabiullah Dawud. He doesn't say that I heard from the Prophet, that the Prophet told me that Allah spoke with Nabiullah Dawud. Amir al-Mu'mineen is narrating directly that there was a conversation that happened with Allah and Dawud. Where did Amir al-Mu'mineen know from? Within this answer there is a fada'il, a big fada'il of Amir al-Mu'mineen. We will not answer it when that happens.   You have intent and I have intent. You have certain decrees and I have certain decrees. Remember how we said in the beginning? That the irada of the makhluk is different from the irada of the khalik. Nothing will ever happen except through my decree, my will, my intent.  Everything within creation is shadowed by the decree of Allah Azza wa Jalla. And from this irada or this understanding of irada, we understand that Allah is Qadir. Wa huwa la kulli shayin. Qadir. He has power over everything. And from here we now, you start to see as you go deeper into the studies. That the sifat, how we said the Amir al-Mu'mineen, said that the sifat of Allah cannot be separated from the that of Allah Azza wa Jalla. And that all these sifat are interlinked because in reality, the essence is one. When we come back to this issue, if we understand this concept of irada, decree and this concept of iqtiyaar, i.e. Allah Azza wa Jalla being muqtar, will and intent, free will, which exercises over everything and anything. When we come back to mother nature, we say number one, what is this mother nature? Like the way we said in the first part of the segment, you'll find that some of the most famous or some of the most accepted definitions that come forward for mother nature, is a personification of nature. That focuses on the life giving and nurturing aspects of nature by embodying it in the form of a mother. So within the system of cause and effect, we took this cause, the cause which is apparent and gave it the name of the mother because the mother generally metaphorically or within this outward system is seen as the source of life or the channel through which life is given to another. So it's attributed to a governing force. However, our question is that who is the force behind the force? Man should not be so intellectually shallow to stop at that cause and then look what it goes on to share. Images of women representing mother earth and mother nature are timeless in prehistoric times. Goddesses were worshipped for their association with fertility and agricultural boundary, bounty. And this was the commonly held belief within Assyrian, Babylonian, Roman, Greek and Indian religions prior to the inception of Abrahamic religions. And then it goes on to say the earliest written usage of this concept of mother nature dates back to 13th or 12th century B.C. Wow. This means that, number of conclusions, how much time do we have? Around 10 minutes. Yeah, Allah. We have 10 minutes. So I know how deep to formulate the arguments. Four minutes. Tell you. So the first thing over here is this. The arguments that we have right now that are put forward to us in regards to mother nature being the force. These are not new arguments. This is not a breaking discovery. And neither it is an intellectual argument that has just surfaced as a result of a better understanding of science law. This concept of mother nature existed way before. Way before even the coming of Nabiullah is a 13th or 12th century before Christ. Now this is the important thing. This concept of mother nature being the force responsible for fertility and agricultural bounty and so on and so forth. Properties of the Khaliq who is Qadir, who has Qudra and who has Irada as we saw because these are characteristics that are manifested within the creation. They were attributed to this force of nature which was then represented in a female image. And this was the leading theory in Greek and Indian philosophy and Assyrian philosophy, Babylonian philosophy even before the coming of Nabi Issa. So number one is not a new argument. Number two, we come to see that these beliefs are the very beliefs that the Ambiya came to negate. If this was the ideological belief of deities, mother nature, a personification of nature in the form of a female force that governs certain aspects of our existence and this was the predominant belief before Abrahamic faiths. Nabi Nuh came to know what? To fight people who had this notion. Fight intellectually. Nabiullah Ibrahim he came to invalidate their argument. Nabi Issa came and invalidated these arguments. Then how is it that these arguments that came into existence so now you see you also come to understand and this thing is very important that even the Ambiya of the past the likes of Nabi Ibrahim, the likes of Nabi Issa, Nabi Musa when we have this mental picture in our mind that these were backward people, yes they were backward but what I mean is savage and yes they were savage but at their time they claimed to be the intellectuals of their time. They had philosophical arguments in regards to their idea of the creation and the existence of the earth and some of the highest, most influential the aristocrats of the time the most successful businessman of the time yielded to those beliefs which the Ambiya came to nullify or invalidate and we find that this cycle is repeating itself even in this day and age and therefore you see the type of the arguments these Ambiya have come to invalidate and if we understand this and you look at everything within the realm of the big picture you find that one of the what is branded or marketed as one of the greatest achievements of Ma'amun Al Abbasi was that he you will find this a lot within the books of the Mukhalifin Ma'amun is the brother of Harun yes the Persian Yes with Imam Rida during the Abbasi leader during the time of Imam Rida Ma'amun was the one who was responsible for the translation of a lot of weak Roman Indian philosophy into Arabic text and the Mukhalifin and there are a number of Shi'a who are also of this opinion in that they actually praise Ma'amun and they say that he was the Abbasi Khalifa responsible for the spread of literature and I've heard this from from Shi'a scholars as well scholars where they say yes he didn't give Imam Rida his rights he suppressed Imam Rida didn't believe in the Khilaf and the willy of Imam Rida but he done Islam a big service because he spread this culture of literature but when you look at the Qadiyah when you look at the issue a little bit more deeper what you begin to see is when you scratch below the surface you start to see that Ma'amun actually began a movement by exporting and funding the translation of deviant philosophical schools of thought he laid the foundation to fracture the theological belief which unites and strengthens the Shi'a the Muslims not only between themselves but fractured their relationship and their understanding with their creator to begin with and was he trying to promote mother nature from a lot of these things if you have a look over here you look at some of the arguments whether he promoted mother nature or not we have to look into the type of arguments that these philosophers came with when they came into the Islamic lands but a good shahed on this is what a good proof to drive home our point is where you look at the arguments and the debates that Imam Rida salawatullahi wa salamuhu alayhi has in this book compiled by Sheikh Saduk Nunes Uyun Akhbarur Rida look at the theological arguments Ma'amoon brought these individuals to try and defeat Imam Rida a ploy to fracture the correct theological belief that existed and that emanates from the school of Ahlulbayt as the most accurate one Subhanallah Imam Rida came on top and a lot of these people changed their belief system and Imam Rida invalidated a lot of their beliefs but what we are trying to say is arguments are not new ground-breaking discoveries in regards to how nature came into existence and how the universe came into existence these are arguments that predate back to even before the time of Nabiullah Isa so to end our question over here is this on the assumption that mother nature is a force that is responsible for creation and the force above which there is no other force our question here is does mother nature have the sifat of irada does it have the sifat of kudrah does it have the sifat of iqtiara if it has the sifat where can these be proved from if they don't have this sifat that means there is a force above the force of nature and in our intellectual journey of discovering what or who is responsible for the root of creation then we have to go further to discover above mother nature many times in my opinion one of the scholars Ayatullah said Jaafar Ashirazi Hafidahullah he would always say many times some of the attributes that are granted to mother nature actually are attributes of Allah these people were to know what you are referring to they are giving to mother nature it's actually Allah they need that further push for them to be able to see beyond what is about and they come into the fold thank you very much Sheikhna for the dialogue and for the discussion thank you for all the views for joining us inshallah we will have a new discussion on the next episode of the live Facebook inshallah


So up trade hackers welcome back after a long weekend today is Tuesday, January 21st Let's take a look at what happened in the markets today first with the S&P not a whole lot of movement down slightly S&P's down about four point seven five Nasdaq pretty flat down a hundred Russell down about 14 so slightly bearish today But what are the some of the other big movers one thing was natty gas down almost five percent Continuing its slide lower. We do have a position in here if it continues much lower We're gonna go ahead and roll some calls down to Extend duration and continue to collect some credits in natty gas so big movement there in stocks Another big move in Tesla up over seven percent will jump there in Tesla So Tesla continues to stay on fire and it does have earnings coming up on at the end of this month So on the 29th We do have a position in Tesla or a reverse iron duck So still in good shape on that one beyond meat another big move today. Where's beyond? Would it end up at up? 18% what a move this thing's been having. I mean it started down here did nothing For quite a while and then boom shot up and then had that big pullback just that one day Kind of consolidate a little bit here, and then boom shot up 18% today. So a lot of movement in Beyond meat we did not put on any trades today if this thing keeps climbing We will look to potentially put on a reverse iron duck the calls continue to have some skew in there So potentially a trade coming in beyond meat Another big mover today that we did have a trade on in was BA Boeing So we put this on last Friday So is right here when price was hanging out right here near the open We put on a pre earnings long straddle and the reason we did that is price had been really Consolidating in a pretty tight range, and then we got this contraction in implied volatility So, you know typically what we see is implied volatility Expands going into earnings and so with this consolidation in price and then that contraction implied volatility That's where we put on a long straddle right there leading up to earnings Now we never hold these past the earnings date just leading up to it And worked out really well. So the very first day we had it on we were in the profit after that big bar down and then today price dropped on news that the max is going to be delayed in Getting back out to the airline carriers and before that news came out and price was dropping They actually halted trading in Boeing for a period of time, then they opened it back up We closed out our trade booked almost 700 bucks per contract. So nice trade there in Boeing Netflix has earnings they announced after the bell today. So just not too long ago here. Let's go to Netflix Let's go to an intraday chart see what happened So here's what happened after hours which starts in that shaded gray See there's a little spike up and down and really it's pretty close to where it Closed so pretty muted movement in Netflix, which is good. We put on a trade in Netflix So we should see a nice little winner in that one and then another one that announced after the bell was IBM now IBM I Think had a big move higher. Yeah, pretty decent move higher So closed about 139 ish and it's now at about 145 the was the expected move their expected move was about six and Price is up about six imagine that so we didn't put on a an alert in this one I did a an iron duck in a different account. So that'll be a little beak winner But that's what happened in IBM capital one financial also Announced after the bell and it's up a couple bucks Other main one that's announcing tomorrow morning before the market opens is Johnson and Johnson and so let's take a look at a just a regular daily chart See here it is we didn't put on a trade here implied volatility pretty low Although it did spike up a little bit today, but no trade here, but they do announce before the bell tomorrow morning So that's all we got everybody have a great evening. Talk to you tomorrow


Okay, we're here at IDF. I'm John Furrier with SiliconANGLE.com and SiliconANGLE.tv. We're in the developer lounge at Intel Developer Forum 2012. This is all about software.intel.com and go there find out what's going on with Intel. We're a great keynote We're here with industry analyst at CRISH. At CRISH is the CEO and founder of Rishisha.research New research firm out there pioneering kind of the cutting edge and the future wave of Convergence data center, consumerization of IT, mobility, and what this all means to businesses. CRISH, welcome to the mobile cube Yeah, it's my pleasure to be here and pleasure to be talking to you again And it's a great event. The keynote was really good and I was pretty impressed with how the keynote went I love Intel Kinos because one I'm a big fan of Intel and I love Intel because they've done generations of innovation They abstract away complexity. They got super alpha geeks They usually don't get the credit sometimes in the hype circles, but Intel does great work But one of the things that really stuck out for me on this keynote was this notion of abstracting away the ease of use Higher performance.  Obviously, this is not just about Apple and Samsung. This is about future apps, future development So share with your perspective as an analyst this whole mobility trend because this is what the user and computing environment will look like The mobility trend, I'm coming from the enterprise point of view. The mobility trend and enterprise is just starting So there will be lots and lots of innovations coming in the coming years and it's going to change the enterprise landscape completely from what we are seeing today But one thing that struck me in the keynote is that daddy made the statement that mobile computing is not just about mobility but it's also about computing I think that's the key thing going forward. Right now the kind of devices which we have are very low powered and there's very little innovation we can do with that But that itself is pretty amazing for old-fashioned people like you and me like who are you using Old-fashioned. Come on. I'm still young. So my thinking is we will be moving. We are in the cloud big data and all those things as we move more into the big data world Our idea of cloud will move from a more centralized one to more distributed one in terms of it's more like a P2P cloud or something like that When that kind of a change comes in the importance of computing and mobility is going to change the way we innovate I think that particular point really impressed me because I think that is hinting towards where we will be going in the years to come Talk about the you mentioned computing because let's break that apart for a second. Drill down on computing What do you mean by that specifically because with the centralized computing resources cloud and big data You've got a lot of stuff all over the place. Do you mean end user computing, data center computing, all of the above I think as we go by the end user computing and data center computing is going to merge together and we are going to It will be very tough to differentiate between these two. At least it may not happen in the coming two to five years But it is eventually going to happen. Eventually every computer, every mobile device you carry might be a node in the cloud So we might go to a P2P kind of cloud. So the reason why it is interesting for me is If we imagine the cloud as something centralized like a few cloud providers like Amazon or Google taking care of the entire world's need We have to bring in all the data to them. The network latency is not going to go away anytime soon and lock-in risks come into picture And also not every app is going to be written for Amazon kind of cloud So people would want some high performance due to various reasons So when these kind of needs converge together The idea of cloud will go from a handful of cloud providers offering cloud up there somewhere to cloud being distributed everywhere to every device And there will be a layer over the distributed network which will abstract away the complexity So when you say P2P cloud, obviously that brings up stuff that we have been covering And you've been covering on cloud avenue dot com is personal cloud So there's personal clouds that people could have but also P2P cloud could mean clouds talking to each other Is it the cart before the horse? What comes first? The automation on the cloud side? Because this sounds a lot like VMworld with VMware's abstract pool and automate What's your take on that cloud migration? We will first have to figure out the automation part first Otherwise the entire user experience is going to break down if we move to P2P cloud So the first step will be a more federated cloud ecosystem where there will be many players offering services based on niche needs of users So once you figure out how you abstract away the complexity that comes out of that kind of a more federated ecosystem You can then think about P2P cloud and how to handle additional complexities that come from those things But in the past we have had P2P kind of a distributed cloud SETI at home and a few of the protein computing projects and all those things I think that should give us a clue about how things work Ok, well a big theme here are developers of software, software.inchel.com is really the developer zone here Obviously the keynote was a lot of demos, a lot of future Coke machine that's got a lot of embedded systems, they call Intelligent Systems Talk about this notion of software infrastructure Because software seems to be the theme here around data infrastructure We talked about that VMworld, we saw VMware and virtualization guys going all software And that's the future of the data center Can you share with the folks out of your perspective of the software defined data center? The thing is like software is going to be where all the innovation is going to happen Going forward, yes hardware is important, there will be some innovation underneath But software is going to abstract away everything and going to give the control to the end user So if we have to move to that kind of world, software is going to be the layer where innovation is happening You asked about software defined data center and I think VMware made it slogan during VMworld last week I think software defined data center is the first step VMware is checking to sort of compete in a world Which I see as more like an ocean of services where different services exposed from the infrastructure All the way to applications will be exposed to the within course ocean And all these services will be around big data in general So when you go to that kind of a services world, the data center or infrastructure as we know it today Will get more and more abstracted into a more simplified service And I think VMware is positioning for that The way they have brought dynamic ops and sort of integrated their services manager into it Sort of gives me hope that they are prepping for the services world and cloud phone on top of it I think they are well pushing to do that and I think every other company is going to go in that direction We had the founder of dynamic ops on theCUBE at VMworld we confirmed And we're first to report that it's going to sit on top of vCloud which is actually a good spot for those guys My final question to you is because you're obviously on the cloud a lot of years You've been in the cloud, we've been watching this from the beginning kind of growing up And all the promise of the cloud, we saw it explode and be the most disruptive thing relative to Stardust But now as enterprise starts to get more cloud specific hybrid cloud and private cloud We talked about this on theCUBE at VM where with Chris Hoff and he wrote a post inspired by our conversation around this cold war of cloud Because with cloud foundry, Google compute cloud, you have a lot of people pushing their clouds And there's a variety of benefits for each one of them for enterprises So we're kind of coming back to this interoperability question You mentioned it earlier around clouds talking to each other What do you see around one this cloud cold war if you will Not really direct war but there's some posturing around security and other things and we drilled down on theCUBE But just in general around this notion that we're going back to this full circle around interoperability around clouds Can you share your opinion on that? Interoperability will be a problem for some more time to come The thing is like let's be clear the Amazon's of the world and Google's of the world were first generation of cloud services Which was more focused towards startups as enterprises come into the buying game It's going to change, there will be more people coming in that's what we are seeing in terms of VMware and open stack and all those things posturing into the market place with their own offering with their own niche and things like that Interoperability is going to be the key but that will happen at a layer much above the infrastructure All these infrastructure platforms so I think it is going to take some more time to figure out Right now I am sort of pushing against any standardization effort because I think right now people are innovating in terms of interoperability For example if you're using open stack and Amazon Web Services I can go with the ride scale and status and take care of the portability needs So right now we should let people innovate and once we see more innovation in the space and once the pain point becomes too much for the end customers I think then we should talk about standardization and I think eventually we will settle this issue I agree with you, I think standardization is more mature let the developers innovate, let the market develop fast Not bog it down with some sort of standardization discussion I am psyched for developers, I am psyched to see open stack become much more developer centric, a lot more raw materials out in the market place We are here with Chris Intel developer forum, this is Silicon Angle coverage of IDF 2012, we will be right back


We view Jesus right as someone who is way different than us and look he's God, okay? I get it. We're not but I think that we view him as almost this like Superhuman right when in reality in my opinion again Jesus is God in Human form, you know He is the son of God the son of God and what are we called the sons and daughters of God? He is God Showing us how to be human and that's why we are Followers of Christ because we are supposed to follow in his footsteps and follow the things that he does not only with him Helping others and and the way that he leads his life in full devotion to the father But in how he can heal and perform miracles and manifest because he believes in The father with all of his heart and he doesn't have any wavering doubt


All right everybody, welcome back to Las Vegas. This is Dave Vellante with Rob Stretching. You're watching theCUBE's continuous coverage of HPE Discover 2023. We go out to the events and extract the signal from the noise. We've been doing that 13 plus years around HPE and now of course HPE. Bobby Ford is here. He's the Senior Vice President and Global Chief Security Officer at Hewlett-Packard Enterprise. Bobby, it's great to see you. Thanks for coming on. First time in theCUBE. It is the first time, so that means I've officially arrived. Yeah, yes. So thanks for having me. You got it. I want to start. We hadn't met until just now, but I knew you from your stage performance at Antonio's All Hands on, I think it was April 4th. It was. Down at Storage Day. Yeah. Down, they flew the analysts down. Right. What they did is they invited the analysts into the All Hands meeting. They kicked us out before the Q and A, but it was still really cool. And Bobby was the MC. And I guess you guys rotate the MC. So you were there that day and it's a big party. I mean, it was unbelievable, the cultural injection. It's very different. And I think it speaks to the culture that we have at HPE. We really like to have a good time and we like each other. And that's always a plus. When you like what you do, and you like the people that you do it with. Well, like I said, we've been covering HPE and then HPE for 13 years. And when the company was splitting apart, it was very painful. And you could just sort of see it in everybody. At that meeting, I mean, people were proud. They were nodding. They were cheering. It was very cool. Congratulations. I'm glad you were able to make it. Yeah, me too. It was really eye-opening. Hadn't been back in Houston for a while. Anyway, let's talk cloud security, hybrid cloud security, your role. Start with your role. What do you do with it? Do you spend time like internal security, making sure HPE is secure? Or you spend sales guys, I'm sure dragging you out all the time. Yeah, so I do a little bit of both. So I'm responsible for our enterprise cyber security. That's how do we protect HPE? How do we protect HPE assets? How do we protect HPE data? But I'm also responsible for our cloud security services organization. And that's how do we protect our cloud environment that we give access and we have customers in? So around Green Lake. Around Green Lake, yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly, yep. Well, so how do you do it? I mean, what is different about what you're trying to do than sort of conventional security? Yeah, so we recently conducted a research report with the Pondamine Institute. And one of the stats that stood out in that report to me was something like 68 or 70% of people are concerned or 58%, sorry, 58% of people are concerned about security as it relates to their cloud transformation journey. And you would think that that number is low and it's not that the others are not concerned about security. But I think that many people have this misperception that once you go to the cloud, once you go to the public cloud, that you no longer have to worry about security. And that's not the case. And so what we've discovered in the public cloud world, the private cloud, the hybrid cloud model is that security becomes a shared responsibility between you, the cloud provider, and then those that you have interconnectedness with. So in my role, back in the day, I would focus only on our internal program, but now I'm having more and more conversations with customers because it is a shared responsibility that we have with them as it relates to cybersecurity. So I'm going to ask you to put on your internal security hat and then talk about your sort of external and your customer one. As a CSO, when you have, you've got stuff running on-prem, you've got data centers all over the place, I presume you've got stuff going on in the clouds, you know, your partners with all the cloud companies. Each cloud has a different, you know, its own shared responsibility model. It's got its own primitives. You've got to connect to those. So it's a complicated situation for a lot of CSOs. Yeah. How do you see that evolving and how are you and your peers trying to sort of reconcile all those differences and understand all those shared responsibility models? Do you just say, you know what, we're going to go monocloud or do you say, okay, we're going to have to somehow create an abstraction layer and simplify across those clouds? I've been doing cyber for a while. And I've, you know, I'm a technologist at heart. And I think that as it relates to the cloud, we've gone through several iterations. And when I say we, I mean the security professionals, we've gone through several iterations of how we respond to the cloud. And I think our first response was cloud never. We just didn't trust that we wanted our data and our assets, our infer and our environment. So it was cloud never. And then we, you know, morphed into cloud maybe. So we started thinking maybe it's not that bad. We started taking tours of their facilities and we started having conversations with their security people. It was like maybe cloud. And then I think we got to this point where it was cloud only, public cloud only. And it was like, you know, cloud first, cloud only. No one wants to build any type of data center. I want to get rid of it. I think that where we are now, I would call it cloud when it's right. I love Antonio's keynote. He called it cloud smart. And I think that's where we are. And in this cloud smart world, I think that it will only be, I mean, it will only become more complex. So I tell any of, you know, the SISOs that I know, if you're not comfortable working in complexity, you should probably get another job. Yeah, I think you hit on a great point. And I think Antonio and everybody has been talking about the edge hybrid cloud. How do you stretch across that? What are you seeing? Cause you must be, I mean, you know, I was with HPE a long time ago and we had cloud back then even, and it was when you started to look at all of the different data centers, all of the different partners, and especially where you are working with so many different clouds. How does that complexity play in? Especially when you have edge, you have hybrid. Any time you're dealing with a complex environment, I think it's critically important that you have a great framework. The reason why I'm at HPE, honestly, and I don't say this, you know, because HPE pays me, they do, but that's not why I say this. I think that the framework has to be edge to cloud. And if you're a security professional, I used to call it data to cloud, but I was just like, because it's not always data at the edge, but it's edge to cloud. And when I say it's not always data, I mean you could sometimes have sensors or just input, output. So I think you have to think edge to cloud in your security framework, which we wrote a white paper, how security practitioners should think about security from edge to cloud, because I think that's the only way you can tackle that complexity. Understanding that you can't secure everything. So it's critically important that you prioritize and that you take a balanced approach and you look at security from the edge to the cloud. So the premise that we put behind this thing we call super cloud is the more consistent you can make that experience, the better that experience is going to be, the less muck they're going to have to deal with and the safer it will be. So I'm asking you now to put on your sort of external hat. When you think about Green Lake and your promise to customers, how do you talk about that shared responsibility model? What are you responsible for? What's the customer responsible for? I think it depends on the nature of the relationship that we enter into with the customer. And they have to understand, hey, where are my workloads? And what relationship do I have? What third parties engage? Where do I have connectedness? And then who's responsible for monitoring that connectedness? And honestly, it's a case by case basis. I mean, it's done on a case by case basis. So it's not one size fits all. So what I would say, and this is to any of the sites those that I talked to that are customers of ours, it's important that you have conversations. It's important that you have conversations and that you understand with your internal teams where you're responsible and securities prevent, detect, respond, where you're responsible for prevent, where you're responsible for detect, where you're responsible for respond, and then where HPE is responsible. So I like how you described it for it, like first phase was like cloud in no way. And you got that from a lot of customers, and particularly in financial services, and maybe then, hey, we're all in, but nobody's really all in. But the other piece is the cloud, the definition of cloud has changed. It's expanded. We were talking to Xavier Poisson yesterday. And he's, I've said this before, the cloud is an operating model. Dave, get it. And I'm like, okay, I'm with you. So the cloud is now the first line of defense, however you want to define that cloud. So I'm interested in how the CISO's role has changed as a result of that. So you got the cloud, now you're asking developers to ship left and deal with it. You've got audit in the back end, they're kind of the last line of defense. So how has that role evolved and evolving? Like I spoke to earlier, I think that we've come to a place where we recognize that A, we can't secure everything. And I think that that's really important to recognize that you can't secure everything. So then how do I prioritize what's most important to the organization? How do I prioritize what's most critical to the organization? I think B, it's evolved in that, I understand, like I said, it's going to be complex. And I think that hybrid is here to stay. And so understanding that, hey, I can't secure everything. It's going to be complex. How do I then prioritize in my hybrid world what's most important, and then make sure I have the right controls in place to secure it? I remember I was, years ago, I was interviewing Robert Gates, former Defense Secretary. And it was at the time when security was becoming a board level issue. And he sat on a lot of boards and he's like, it's absolutely a board level issue for the ones I sit on. And since that time, we've seen it go from, just the SecOps team, the security guys, folks like you have been in it their whole life. Oh yeah, security, that's somebody else's problem. And it trickles up to the board. Now it's sort of trickling out throughout the organization. So my question is, well, first of all, statement, bad user behavior beats good security any day. So how do you create a security-aware culture? That's a phenomenal question. Thanks for asking it. I think that most people today, and maybe it's just because I've been doing it so long, that I think most people are aware. I think most people are aware of security risks. Most people have been impacted personally. Remember, there was a time when the only time you were concerned about something happening, a data breach, or you were concerned about compromise was at work. Because you still did your banking at the bank. So the only time you were concerned about cyber security was at work. You were air-gapped. Yeah, exactly, but now that we're doing everything online, now I've discovered that I went from people thinking, hey, security is doing too much in the company culture. Hey, you're doing too much to people saying, you're not doing enough. They're pushing you because, again, personally they're seeing the impact of cyber attacks and they're seeing the impact of cyber risk. So I think that the culture is actually more aware now than it's ever been, and then our responsibility, and it's something that I don't, so no one is watching this interview that works at HPE, right? So I can say, okay, and no one is listening. I guarantee you, we're filtering it on the phone. No, I mean. This is private, right? So no one that works for HPE is anywhere around, right? Okay, cool. So I wanna get us to a point where we're equipping people to actually respond themselves. And what I mean by that is, imagine if you will, this is me being visionary, imagine if you will, you get into work super early, and you work in New York, and you receive this phishing email. You know it's a phishing email, right? Because you're so smart, you're brilliant. So you know it's a phishing email, but it wasn't just sent to you, it was sent to 20,000 other employees, but because you're so diligent, you got to work super early in New York City. Imagine if you had the power to pull that email from your fellow colleagues. How wonderful would that be? I want us to get to that point. Right now, the way that we do security is, the employee sees it, they respond to the security team, the security team sees it, they evaluate it. And you've already told them it's a phishing email. After they evaluate it, they contact the IT team. The IT team then takes action to pull the email. Imagine if we equipped you to do that yourself. Yeah, I think that's the key, is that it's everybody's responsibility. Exactly. And it's enabling everybody. And I think we actually had a SAS poly, SAS Catoon, or not SAS Catoon. SAS Catchewan. SAS Catchewan, Polytechnicon. And they talked about how they're actually using GreenLake now because they got hit. And they got hit by ransomware and it was encrypting all of their VMs and taking them down. And actually, HPE helped bring them back. But now they're actually using GreenLake. So to their point, their director of IT who was on here was talking about the fact that our vice president of IT was talking about how that was a really important lesson about how they responded and how they use GreenLake. Do you see a lot of customers looking to you and saying, well, how do you use GreenLake? How do you use this in that model? Yeah, absolutely. And what I think the biggest, not the biggest benefit, but one of the biggest benefits of GreenLake is that it allows you to manage that hybrid world from a single platform, which is phenomenal. Because then when you're thinking about, all right, training up new users or onboarding new users, right? So that they can do the management as well. You're not training them or onboarding them onto multiple platforms, but it's a single platform. So like you were saying, it's a consistent experience as it relates to management of those different workloads or those different cloud environment. So I want to double unpack that vision that you just laid out. And think about cloud as, I just kind of redefined it in our clouds everywhere. The thing about GreenLake and this hybrid cloud, the super cloud is it really democratizes security. Because you've got the best sec-op pros in the world worrying about physical security, all their responsibility. Okay, check. That example you just gave about the phishing, when stuff goes wrong, you can fix it at scale really fast. That's that vision. And then the other thing is, I presume if you make mistakes, you don't make the same mistake twice at the back end anyway. Now, and if you can get the employees and the users to that level, that scales as well. That's a different world than, like you said. And what we used to. Because like we say it all the time, security is everyone's responsibility. I say, well, if it's everyone's responsibility, why not empower and enable everyone? How about AI? What? How about AI? What is that? That's something they invented last year, last November? AI. Alan Iverson? Practice is in practice. We're talking about practice, what are you talking about? We can talk basketball. Celtics made some big grades. Excited about that? Yes we are. Have you seen the evidence of the attackers using AI, or is it still too sort of hard to find? People love to ask security professionals, like what keeps you up at night? What keeps you up at night? And when I hear that, what I hear is what are you most concerned about? And so what am I most concerned about? I'm most concerned that the adoption of advanced technologies by our adversaries is outpacing ours. So to answer your question, yeah, but they've been using it long before, like they didn't just start using large language models, they've been using it. But the scary part in what's been introduced and everyone's talking about chat GBT-4 is that now individuals that don't understand AI are able to use AI. That's the scary part. That was the scary part when we went from, people needing to really know how to write code to attack you, to someone just needing to download an app. Like that's all I gotta do now, I can attack, download an app. Script kitty. Yeah, exactly, that was the scary part. That's what we're witnessing now in the adversary community with the adoption of AI. I say all of that to say, I'm a huge fan of generative AI. Like a huge, huge, so again, no one's watching this, like no one's listening, no one's watching. Okay, cool. I haven't written a text message, now don't tell this to my mother in about three months. Because whenever she texts me, I cut it, paste it in the chat GBT, and it's like write a response to my mother right to this text message. And it's so thoughtful and it's caring. And then I just send it right back to her. She sent me a card the other day saying that I was so responsive lately and she thanks me so much and she loves me so much. And I was like, you're welcome, right? Like no problem. So I'm a huge fan of it, but it's a tool. It's absolutely a tool. And like any tool, it could be used for good, but it can also be used for bad. Yeah, it's a new level. I mean, there was ransomware as a service. Any knucklehead could be a ransomware as to now. Exactly. These phishing emails are now actually well-written. Very well-written. Absolutely well-written and more targeted. Like they're well-written and they're targeted. All right, we got to go. Bobby, you're amazing. And would love to have you back on SuperCloud. Yeah, please do. Yeah, July, so we'll follow up on that. Absolutely, please do. Thanks for the conversation. You're very welcome. All right, Rob Stretching, Dave Vellante. Day three, HPE Discover 2023. You're watching theCUBE up next. The men behind the curtain, Jim Jackson and Jason Newton will be up. Keep it right there. You don't want to miss this.


The Tuskegee Airmen were the first group of African-American aviators to serve in the United States armed forces, and while they were discriminated against both within and outside of the army, they are known today as some of the best pilots of World War II. During World War II, black Americans in many U.S. states were still subject to the Jim Crow laws, and the American military was racially segregated, as was most of the federal government. When he was running for a third term as U.S. president in 1940, Franklin D. Roosevelt promised to allow blacks to become military pilots. The War Department agreed to do that, but with the understanding that the black military pilots would be trained on a segregated basis and serve in their own segregated units. The Tuskegee program began officially in June 1941 with the 99th Pursuit Squadron at the Tuskegee Institute and Air Base. The unit consisted of 47 officers, 429 enlisted men, and was backed by an entire service arm. Tuskegee was chosen as the place for the first black military pilot training because Tuskegee Institute had already been training black civilian pilots. Tuskegee Institute lobbied for the contract to operate a primary flight school for black pilots. The region had more days of good flying weather than any other part of the country, and the area already had a segregated environment which was consistent with the segregated training. The name Tuskegee Airmen applied to not only the men who flew the fighter planes, but also the navigators, bombardiers, mechanics, instructors, crew chiefs, nurses, cooks, and other support personnel for the pilots. By April 1943, the 99th were finally considered ready for combat and were shipped out to Paris. By the end of February 1944, more graduates were ready for combat, and the all-black 332nd Fighter Group had been sent overseas with three fighter squadrons, the 100th, the 301st, the 302nd, and later to join the 99th. The 332nd Fighter Group was the only black fighter group and it was the only one to have four squadrons instead of three. That gave it more pilots and more airplanes than the average fighter group. The 99th Fighter Squadron flew 577 missions before joining the 332nd Fighter Group, and the 332nd Fighter Group flew 914 missions for a total of 1,491 combat missions flown by the Tuskegee Airmen. One of the major achievements that made the Tuskegee Airmen so popular was their good bomber protection rate, only losing a total of 27 bomber planes throughout their squadron's career. Compared to the average 47 from other squadrons. Flying escort for heavy bombers, the 332nd earned an impressive combat record. The allies called these airmen red tails, or red tail angels, because of the crimson red paint on the tail of their planes. Today, with close to 300 airmen still alive, the Tuskegee Airmen are remembered in countless pop culture television shows and movies. And while the history books may not show much detail to their significance during World War II, they will always be remembered as the men who change flying for colored people forever.


Hi, we are Dane and I led from iGaulix and in this video we will show you the most beautiful places, the most challenging hikes and the most rewarding views we saw in 2022. And with this video we hope to inspire you to go outdoors as well. Now on to the 2022 recap hike edition. So let's start with the longest trail we hiked this year and that is the Tour de Montblanc. It's 170 kilometers long around the Mont Blanc Massif and it goes to France, Italy and Switzerland. And with 10,000 meters of elevation gain, it was quite a challenge. And let's talk about our best day hike in 2022. That was in Bestie National Nature Reserve here in France. We call it the Yosemite of Europe. This hike was so rewarding, it was lots of climbing and declining and the views on top are just incredible. Within this day hike we had the feeling that we escaped society within just a few hours. The highest point of 2022. The highest point we reached while we were hiking was on the Coolder Four at an altitude of almost 2700 meters. It was on our fourth day of the Tour de Mont Blanc after a very rewarding climb the day before. However we were even higher on the Iquille du Midi at an altitude of almost 4000 meters, 3842 meters to be precise. That's if we count cable cars. Yeah, and if we have some French people watching by the way, let us know if we pronounce Iquille du Midi the right way. We'd love to know your feedback on that. I think it's even called Accrete du Midi. Accrete, ecuille, ecuille, okay now let's go to the most challenging trail mentally. Hiking trails can also be mentally challenging. We could talk about that for hours and hours of course but in this video we will just review our most challenging hike. Physically for us this trail wasn't demanding, it were long stretches with not much climbing and we were well trained, however it was mentally demanding for us. Yeah we are used to seeing different mountains and landscapes within every few hours in the high elves we were at the TNB but here in Sweden every landscape is vast. It's absolutely beautiful but some days we woke up and we were back in our tent and looking at the way ahead of us we already could see the end destination of that day which was like 25 kilometers ahead of us. For me it was super challenging because I was feeling a little bit homesick at that time. I really miss my family in the Netherlands. Death combined with the intense silence for days in a row and the endless landscape. The Koenslede was mentally challenging for me. It is really really really quiet on the Koenslede. If you haven't been there you have to experience it once because it's really quiet. So what was the most challenging trail physically for us? It's of course the Tour de Mogla. I already said it in the beginning of this video. It's 170 kilometers long with 10,000 meters of elevation gain and you climb every single day. Yeah every prepared big time for this trail, trained a lot and lived in the mountains for six months before starting this trail. We heard from multiple people we met along the trail that they had to stop because the trail was too demanding on their bodies. Now let's head over to the most fun hiking trail we did last year. It was actually a section hike. It was the ladder section of the Tour de Mogla. It was an absolute blast. The famous stairs. The famous stairs. I always thought that it was only like three stairs because everybody only filmed probably the first three but I think it are like ten, ten-ish. Ten? We're not there yet? No. So a few steps but it's pretty cool. Yeah this part was a little bit more technical than just hiking but nothing too scary. This part of the Tour de Mogla trail is also possible to do as a day hike as well. Now let's go over to our most surprising hike we had in 2022. The people who saw our Father Sam video know that the beginning of the day didn't really go as planned. We missed our train stop and stepped out at the train at the completely wrong place. We decided to just follow our random trail in order to find our original starting point of the trail. The hike to reach that point was incredibly beautiful and we even saw a snake. Did you forget when you're in Europe there are still snakes? Well and I heard Dane scream and it was like the highest pitch I ever heard. Yeah for the people who missed that video really make sure to check it out. We had a lot of fun over there. Let's talk about trail magic. Let's hear it! Trail magic is so wonderful acts of people will help you along the trail. In the States it is more well known people like the Pacific Crash Trail, the Continental Defiant Trail or the Appalachian Trail or any other long distance trail will experience trail magic. Yeah it's the kind of acts of people who are not hiking the trail but provide the hikers who are hiking the trail with water, they cook hamburgers for instance or they give you a ride to the nearby towns so our first trail magic. My brother Chris picked us up on a section of the TMB. The weather was really terrible when we had to climb a big mountain pass to reach Switzerland. And right when we were about to start the ascent a big thunderstorm flew over so we couldn't cross it anymore. Thanks bro! Good luck with the hike! Yeah and luckily my brother Chris was actually in the Chamonix area during the time so he picked us up and drove us to the other side of the mountain. And thanks again Chris, big shout out to you! And actually we had a second trail magic moment this year. Maria brought us back from the end of the Holger Kusteläde back to Ernst Schultzvik so we could get to the public transport system of Sweden. Yeah Maria is working for the Holger Kusteläde Trail Association and we met her on our first day of the Holger Kusteläde and when we finished the trail she was so kind to pick us up. And now on to the most memorable moment of 2022. It was seeing Caddy and David for us on the TMB. Yeah it was our last day on the Tour de Mont Blanc and we saw a kind of wasp or a beetle where it's still not sure what it was but there were some random people walking behind us and we decided okay let's just ask them. Yeah and then they asked us are you creating a video for YouTube and we said well yeah and then they asked are you high-coholics? We recognized your voices and we were so like heart-warming and yeah it was absolutely amazing. It was really crazy because they actually said yeah we saw your Shamanese video and you're the reason we're here but really things like this maker day and we love to inspire people in a way that we did for Caddy and David. So if you ever see us on a trail please come over say hi to us say like give us feedback we really want to meet you on the trail. Yeah and if you're watching this Caddy and David it was really nice seeing you. It gave us an expert boost to continue making these videos. Thank you. So from our most memorable moments to our easiest hike. The easiest hike for us this year was the hike in the Chamonix Mont Blanc Valley named Petit Boccon Sud. I think you can tell but we fell in love with the Chamonix area. There are hikes for every level of hiking experience and even the easiest hike can have rewarding views. Yeah as an example the Petit Boccon Sud like I said there is no technical part there is no physical demanding climbing or declining and during the whole hike you have an amazing view on the Mont Blanc massif. And last but not least the best surprise of modern nature. Without a doubt the best surprise last year was seeing the Northern Lights.  And that night we came near the AXA SCF hut and the skies were clear it was minus six degrees Celsius everything was freezing but we were 100% sure we would see the Northern Lights. Well let the footage speak for itself. We had an absolutely incredible 2022 from living in the beautiful Chamonix area during winter and hiking the Tour de Mont Blanc around one of the highest mountain ranges in Europe to seeing reindeer, the Northern Lights and vast landscapes in Sweden. We met some amazing people as well and we loved every single second of it. Thanks for watching our 2022 recap hopefully you are inspired to go outdoors yourself. If you want to see more behind the scenes footage getting close contact with us or simply want to support us we will be really grateful if you could consider becoming a patron by clicking the link in the description of this video. Your support means a lot to us and helps us continue making gear reviews and like videos and videos like this for you. Now let us know in the comments what your favorite hike or moment was from last year and we are looking forward to reading your answers. See you in the next video. Bye. Bye.


All set. Great. Thank you. Good afternoon. Today's Thursday, December 21st. This is a public meeting, the fifth public meeting of the screening committee for the executive director here at the commission. I am Eileen O'Brien, one of the commissioners here. I'm chair of the subcommittee. We are doing this. Meeting using remote collaboration technology. So I'm going to do a roll call. Commissioner Maynard. I'm here. I'm going to do a roll call. And, um, Derek Lennon. Present Dave. Drew. Uh, and I am as well. Four of us are present. Heather Hall, the fifth member is. As you all know, it's leaving us and is not available to make today's meeting. So we. Dave Mackie. I think three still makes a quorum, right? Even if we're a committee of four. Oh, that it does. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Item on the agenda today is the continued review of candidates for the position of executive director. And the third is the review of, um, what I believe Dave and Annie had done. Is posting a review of the posting and the minimum requirements compared to the first round of candidates that were selected for interviews. So unless anyone has something else they want to bring up, I'm going to move forward in terms of. I'm going to move forward in terms of. I'm going to move forward in terms of. I'm going to move forward in terms of. I'm going to move forward in terms of two and three. Everyone looks like they're good. So moving on specifically to item two. This is the continued review of candidates for the position of executive director. Um, the committee anticipates. It may meet the executive session in conjunction with the initial screening process to consider specific applicants for executive director. In accordance with general law, chapter 30, a subsection 21 to eight. The executive director is going to move forward in terms of the review of the meeting and the qualified applicants for the position. Committee anticipates the open session of this meeting will not reconvene at the conclusion of this executive session. Do I have a motion to go into executive session on item two. Madam chair, I move that we go into executive session for the reasons stated by the chair. Period. Is that fine, Dave? Do we have to say on the matters as well? Or that's good, right?  All right. Derek Lennon. Hi. David Muldrew. Hi. And I am also yes. So four zero on item two. And as to item three, this is the review of, uh, the postings minimum requirements and the first round candidates selected for screening. The committee anticipates that may meet an executive session in conjunction with the initial screening process to determine whether or not the meeting will be approved. And then we will consider the postings specific minimum requirements. And the first round applicants selected for executive director. In accordance with general laws chapter 30 a section 21 a eight. If the chair declares and I do that an open meeting would have a detrimental effect on obtaining qualified applicants for the position. The committee anticipates that the open session. This meeting will not reconvene at the conclusion of this executive session. Do I have a motion. That we go into executive session for the matters and reasons. Discussed here.  Hi. Derek Lennon. Hi. Dave Muldrew. Hi. And I am also a yes. So four zero to go into executive session on item three. So item four is any other business. Reserve for matters not reasonably anticipated at the time we posted the agenda. I have none. I want to give you guys the opportunity to raise anything that you want to raise. And if not, we'll go into the executive session. Okay. So seeing none that would include the public portion of this. We're not. Including the meeting. We're just moving over to the executive session. And I think everybody has separate links for the executive session. So we will see you shortly. Thank you. Thank you. That's a wrap up. Thanks for your time. I'm going to turn that over to the executive session. I think everybody has separate links for the executive session. So we will see you shortly. Thank you.


of the United States, Ronald Reagan. Thank you. Thank you all very much, and thank you, Bill Berg, for that kind introduction, and thanks to Chairman Reynolds for hosting this event, and thank you all very much. And like saying hello to your Senator John Warner, who is down there, and your Congressman Wiley, I've already said hello to him because I had brought one of them with me. But this has all been fascinating, and there's much that I want to say, because I think I've seen a magic show already today. But I realize I'm only one of several speakers in this forum, so as Henry VIII said to each of his six wives, I won't keep you long. Today, in my tour of your plant, I saw an example of why American exports are the highest they've been in the entire history of the United States of America. It's called American Free Enterprise. Today it's increasingly becoming a high technology operation, and I just wish that all of the negativists who talk about the decline of America or say that we can't compete overseas, I wish they'd come to this plant and take a look. It might open their eyes. America is now in the 64th straight month of economic expansion. That's the longest peacetime expansion in our nation's history, beating out the previous record by six months already. And we're still going strong. Gross national product rose nearly 5 percent this quarter, and a strong 4 percent for the whole of 1987. Such growth in the fifth year of an expansion probably also belongs in the record books. But I don't think one of those 64 months has gone by without some expert or some politician predicting imminent disaster. Sometimes we'll be lucky and escape only with a recession. Sometimes it's another great depression, according to these so-called experts. I'm sorry, but it seems to me that these people are out of touch. During the Great Depression, the prediction that prosperity is just around the corner became a point of ridicule. The reverse is true today. We've heard during the longest, strongest expansion in our history that calamity is just around the corner. It's a little like that old story of the traveling sailman who was having kind of a rough day of it and finally gave up and dropped into a local diner and weirdly ordered a cup of coffee and a couple of eggs. And a few kind words, and the waitress brought the order and put down the eggs and put down the coffee and said there will be anything else. Well, he said, what about the kind words? He said, don't eat them eggs. Our administration has no higher priority than the protection of America's economic security. For nearly eight years, we've fought for policies that have enhanced that security. I'll match our program of low taxes, free and fair trade, reduced increases in government spending, and reductions of federal regulations against our opponent's calls for more protectionism, higher taxes, and big government spending programs any day of the week. I suspect you'll be hearing more about those two approaches in the months ahead. But the fact is you have to give our critics credit. They're running perhaps the greatest myth-making operation in history. The myths keep evolving as they encounter contrary evidence, but the myth-makers don't give up. The three big ones today are the deindustrialization of America, the decline of the middle class, and the loss of American jobs. The reality, of course, is over 15 and a half million new jobs created since the recovery began and reversing the trend of the late 70s. These new jobs are bigger and better and higher paying jobs. The reality is that after years of high inflation, in which the American people saw their buying power shrink beyond recognition, the real income of the average American has been rising steadily for five years. The reality is that manufacturing exports are surging, and manufacturing productivity is at an all-time high and rising rapidly. Since 1980, the United States' manufacturing economy has increased its productivity almost three times as much as in the previous seven years. One German manufacturing expert put it succinctly, the U.S., he said, is simply the best country in the world in terms of manufacturing costs. And the economist Warren Brooks, predicting that we will make the shift to an export-led economy, said that 88 could end with a bang. Now, you'd think this would all be cause for rejoicing in Washington, not among our critics. They've been predicting economic disaster for five years. They've waited, they've been patient, and now they've seized their opportunity. They've got a trade bill before Congress that could squelch productivity, destroy American competitiveness, and make all their doomsday myths a reality. In an apparent attempt to import euro-malays, they've written in European-style regulations that would create America's first national rules, restricting a company's right to close down facilities and relocate operations. Another example, Honda recently began exporting its first cars from America to Japan. Foreign investment has helped create new American jobs and American exports. It has contributed to the rising productivity of American manufacturing that I mentioned earlier. So what do some in Congress propose, including in the trade bill, new disclosure requirements that would dampen and discourage foreign investment from coming into this country? But potentially the most serious are mandatory retaliation or automatic protection provisions that could require me and future presidents to take actions that would be in direct violation of the GATT and seriously harmful to the national interest. If enacted, they could weaken the international trading system and could require the president to start trade wars. It's a bad proposal under any circumstance, but it's particularly bad now that American exports are soaring and American manufacturers are exporting as never before, and so are vulnerable to retaliation as never before. And yes, too many talk about making America more competitive, but support provisions in the trade bill that would bench some of the best competitors on our team. They talk about saving jobs, but they want provisions that have the potential to destroy thousands if not millions of American jobs. They talk about learning from the Japanese, but why do they have to take their lesson from kamikaze pilots? You may have been reading lately that the trade bill is making good progress, that a lot of protectionist provisions have been jettisoned. Well, there is some truth to that, but there's a long way to go before the legislation does more good than harm to the U.S. economy. Now I'll veto if I must. Only wholesale elimination of the objectionable provisions will produce a bill that I can sign. I won't let them destroy the American growth economy, but I'd rather work with members of Congress to bring about not just an acceptable bill, but one that genuinely improves upon our current law. There are any number of positive things that can be accomplished, renewed negotiating authority, so that we can continue to produce compacts like the historic Canada-free trade agreement that is so important, and that Bill Burke mentioned. We've advocated a new program that would provide training to workers who are displaced as our economy becomes more competitive. And there are many reforms to existing U.S. laws, such as protection of patents and copyrights, and streamlining export controls that would enhance our ability to export. As they continue their work in Congress on this bill, I would note that on Super Tuesday, those who had predicted that protectionism would be embraced in the South were proven wrong. I've often talked about Senator Reid Smoot and the representative Willis Hawley and the bill they co-authored that brought about the collapse of the world trading system and helped send America into the decline of the Great Depression, the Smoot Hawley Tariff. But both of them felt that a bit of demagoguing about trade was good politics. It certainly did get them in the history books. What many people don't realize is that they were both thrown out of office two years later when the voters had time to see the effects of their bill. Protection isn't just bad economics, it's bad politics. I think the American people have decided that one Great Depression is enough and they aren't going to give the trade demagogues a second chance. History points in the opposite direction. More trade, not less. Increasing cooperation, not isolationism and retaliation. Expanding global networks of investment, production and communication, not mercantilist national economics shrinking behind tariff barriers. That's why we've pushed for a new GATT round, which has now been launched to negotiate the most ambitious multinational trade agenda in history. This took some doing at the economic summits that we hold each year with several of our trading partners. And why, as was mentioned earlier, we've negotiated an historic trade agreement with Canada that will expand jobs, growth and opportunity, as you've been told, on both sides of the border. The transformation of Reynolds' aluminum that we saw here today is part of a larger picture. The world economy is in the midst of a profound transformation. It's been called the information age, the computer age, the technological revolution. America can either accept the challenge, as you here at Reynolds have done, or we can opt out of competition and therefore miss out on the new horizons opening before us. Let me just end by giving one example that shows just how profound that transformation is. The driving force of the technological revolution is the almost daily revolution in semiconductor technology. Now to give an idea of the change our generation has wrought, one scientist has made this comparison. If automotive technology had progressed as fast and as far as semiconductor technology has in the last 20 years, he says a Rolls-Royce today would cost less than $3.00. It would get 3 million miles to the gallon. It would deliver enough horsepower to drive an ocean liner, and six of them would fit on the head of a pin. This is more than simply a productivity explosion. Operating in the mysterious realm of quantum physics, today's computers signal a quantum leap into a new world economy. Reynolds has put that quantum power to work for it and to work for U.S. competitiveness. America is still the leader in innovation and entrepreneurial drive, and if we're willing to compete, I have no doubt we'll be the ones leading the way into the new century and the new world economy. Bill, when I was listening to you a moment ago, I want to tell you, this is what we're up to with our trading allies in the world, and we want to bring about that very thing you mentioned with regard to our ability to compete on a fair and level playing field, and that's what we're going to keep driving for until we get it all the way. You know, lately I've got a new hobby, and it's kind of made me stick around longer than I should when I'm speaking. I've been collecting stories that are told in the Soviet Union by their people among themselves, which reveal they've got a great sense of humor, but they've also got a pretty cynical attitude toward their system. And I told this one, Bill, you'll have to hear it again. I told it in the car. I didn't tell this one to Gorbachev.   And he said, morning or afternoon? And the fellow behind the counter said, well, 10 years from now, what difference does it make? And he said, well, the plumber's coming in the morning. Well, I really meant it about magic, and I just, here in the plant I was just through, I saw what I think is miraculous and to total accomplishment of yours from the machinery that performs the miracles to the miracles that they perform, and I just want to thank you all for letting me be a part of this, and I'll go home feeling a little taller than when I left Washington. So I thank you all, and God bless you all. Thank you very, thank you very much, Mr. President. This has truly been a great day for the metals company. Mr. President, I have a little presentation to make here to you. This is an aluminum extrusion made out of aluminum lithium, which is the magic metal for the future for aircraft, for aerospace. It's 10% lighter than regular aluminum. This is used in the structure of the airframe of the plane. As a matter of fact, Air Force will, next Air Force One will no doubt contain this material. Darn that 22nd Amendment. Let's put it right down here. Also on the way out of the car, the President said that he and the First Lady were leaving for the ranch this weekend. So we have a little memento of this occasion here. We have a box of our consumer products, which we hope you'll take back with our answer. Thank you very much, and believe me, they will be used. Nancy will think I'm bringing home Easter presents. Thanks again. It's been marvelous. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.