Hello everybody, if it's Wednesday, it's Warhammer and that must mean it's time for another episode of Warhammer Weekly Back at home back from Australia and here with my good buddy my celebrating our wood anniversary It's Tom. What's up, buddy? I Couldn't be happier that when I looked up earlier today what the five-year anniversary thing was That it was wood I Need to say nothing else Uh It was great Yeah, and like that was a perfect world to live in that's hilarious So for you know, this is like I don't know. We're gonna reach it. This is probably the best This is the peak right here. I mean, we'll still do the show for another five years ten years, whatever I didn't do anything. I can hear you just fine Okay, I'll try to fix it apparently It really wasn't it really wasn't here hold on do to do Talk say something Nope, there's not gonna be able to hear you. I'll fix it. Let's try that one. All right talk Nope No, I gotta I gotta try all these different audios till I figure out why Which one is actually you? Okay, talk. No You're not muted You're up all the way Let's just do that dude. There we go. Okay. Now you how about now? Well, is that is that better? Yep Well, I mean according to my according to the sound board you're coming through fine. So assumingly there Okay, well, maybe Maybe people yeah, this is indeed Peacore Hammer. This is indeed The world we live in All right Well, hopefully now it's different like because I changed it around so the chances are there was there we go now You're normal again. Sorry, I switched The problem is when you so let me explain here I obviously streamed off of a different computer off a different setup and it switched around all the defaults and I switched everything back. So I thought I missed one. I apologize I had checked on it like our two audios are very distant on the board And I didn't notice the years wasn't lighting up. I checked That's that's the problem and that's what happened last week. Um, I apologize folks I have returned for a bit the anniversary yada-yada would joke we're here. There you go Man, it would have been great to have you just muted the whole time to celebrate our anniversary. There you go There you go. Yes, indeed Yeah, so the answer is it was all coach's fault And I agree with centerfall gaming that what did you do I can hear Tom now I thought the idea was to keep him quiet. That's what I was going for But anyway, hello everyone welcome. So a lot of big stuff to talk about today. Oh, man. Oh, man Oh, man is there so much and as usual where we're to jump into just some general discussion about the five years of the show Later do a little look back that kind of thing will be slightly self-indulgent today But of course the only the read the real reason we can afford to do that is because I suspect we're gonna spend a lot of time with the With the news because there was some news Sorry, I'm just laughing at coach's joke about me building the LVO and can't go like this. Sure. Okay Rumor engine. Let's start there. Yeah, man. It's up on screen right now So, what do you think this thing is besides? Oh, this one's probably upside down This is totally the malaria nose Okay, it does it feels upside down to you, right? Yeah, it does it does and by the way The reason why I said that is like this is the symbol for shadow like the little like the little like So there we go. I've rotated the image for everybody to what I think is the correct way On the on the screen. Yeah, like the half half swastika. Maybe is what it is. Whatever that is I think And yes, there is a symbol that is a room shadow or silence and all that's associated with all those kinds of things Uh-huh. Yeah, and then the same thing with the moon. The moon is another dark elf Sickle it could be a dock warband as somebody observed or it could be Malarian stuff Yeah, we do know that the dock warband is coming like that's one of the later news items we'll touch on This would be a very different looking Individual piece than any of the existing dock range. Yeah, but that being said they clearly showed us that they're willing to Be quite different with the the the sort of individualized Aesthetics that they go for right like that what I mean by that is just if you look at like the new hunter Right. He doesn't really look like the old hunter much. I mean, he's a pretty new take on the thing Yep, but I tend to be with you. I would love to think this is Shadow Elves It'd be a cool idea to me if the Shadow Elves Skip hopped Tyrion and we had Tyrion be the absolute last thing Well, Tyrion was actually mentioned in the in the LV or in the most recent article So I like I thought we were gonna skip Tyrion rid this with this release and maybe we aren't because like Tyrion is Name-checked as part of this army. Yeah, it would be so that's something we can talk about when we get to the the the Lumineth realm lords But I mean as just a preview I'll say I would be very sad if that were the case Yeah, like you're daddy. He's not something separate. Yeah. Yeah, no, I agree with that. Yep Yep, I agree with that. Okay, so that's rumor engine It's probably like a year away elves or it could be dark. It could be doc sooner, but who knows Well, you know, they work on battle tomes like a year in advance And it was funny because I watched some of the like hangout and paint today which had Ben Johnson on and and Yeah, exactly and everybody and it was funny because he's like, you know, yeah The stuff we were just doing the layout on his battle tomes for you know, that'll come out at the beginning of next year So, I mean, you know, there's still a lot more stuff. Even though we know we're at the end of the battle tomes They're not gonna stop making them. There's still a lot. Yes Yeah That's how it works, right? Yeah, so I think that's a good guess I would I would honestly see either happening That is to say the the ulgu malaria and shadow elves or the you know It could be a little element of the new dock thing But I would hope for old will go elves because I want to see some sweet shadow demons And I want to see them be very different than anything else. I want to see them be some new hotness Sure. Mm-hmm. I'd be down for that. Yeah And and as far as the rumor mill goes sometimes they put up rumor mills that they're just about to spoil By the way, cuz somebody said in the chat like surely the the dock thing is too close They put up like one of the headdresses from the Lumeneth nightlords like really recently super recently Like two weeks before they actually showed that very many so You never know And I mean we've seen a bunch of stuff that certainly points toward being from the new giant range right from from from the sons of behemoth and they You know, that's clearly not that far off Right. It's true So there we go Unless you're trolling us with that sons of behemoth. They're not they're not troll They're they didn't troll a bill of lading for 21,000 pieces or whatever it was. That's just not how the world works I mean to be pretty amazing if they did that's all Like that would be a very unusual thing a deep cut epic level troll. That's all I'm saying which is is not what's happening My audio is peaking way up in exactly where I'd want it to be somebody asked me is Vince quiet and My audio is very stable at exactly in the in the non-capped area you on the soundboard. So anyway, I Maybe I'm talking about LBO I guess boom Boom Big stuff. Oh, man. I'm so excited about this. I have it has been a long time since I've been so excited Been a long time long time shouldn't have left you left you without a dope beat to step two So we begin with the best reveal I saw at LBO Which was they were this whole new Tempest I army that they released Yeah, I mean, I'm super excited for it. It seems to be filed under this wrong section It's these adept juice mechanic use things. It's under this one. We're 40,000 thing I don't know that probably just a clerical error, but we can see here some new I well these are them. These are the pistol ear slash outrider versions, but then they also had here They've got guys with swords and stuff. They're another pistol ear version. I'm sure these would be good demigrafs as well There's probably a full sword option in there or Lance's to make them demigrafs. So that's really cool I like that. I mean this guy that you can see he's already got this clearly unit champion So you already has a sword. I'm sure we can just put Lance's where these guns are and Those are great demigrafs, you know, they're in threes So I think they're really nice as either pistol ears outriders or demigrafs that they seem like pretty big cavalry So they'll be they'll be ready to go for either one of those and I think it's awesome to make a unit like that That can be used for both models in Tempest I that's really nice And then as well We also saw the Coradron overlord version of and your brother Well, this is that this is clearly the one right here. This is the leader guy So this is obviously the lord on it with dirigible suit or whatever the endring master with dirigible suit, right? Sure Yeah, we can see the gun that he normally wears there There's probably some extra guns we can put on him that we're just not seeing in a particular picture And then here we have the actual endring rigors themselves Clearly we have their you know special rivet rifles or whatever. I mean that's clear some kind of rivet gun there So that's really nice. These guys are Seem like great endring rigors for Tempest I so I mean all in all this was an unbelievably exciting release I did not expect to get an entire like Army release focused on exactly the army. I was building for the city. I was building This is unbelievably specific model releases But I really just think that this shows the promise of you know, what we could see with model releases in the years to come I You're not wrong. I mean, it's this legitimate. Yeah, like Yeah, yeah, if I were you I'd be really excited too. Yeah Obviously I obviously in case this wasn't clear this is all like being me being facetious for a very long time But but I am going to buy all of these Because they just literally released the entire army. I want to build for Tempest I like this is incredible Maybe this is what what I do for What we do for havoc is you just keep with your stuff and I'll just buy all this and make it a Tempest I pairing for you. Yeah, man. I Mean, oh geez.  Stop what you're doing robot horses. No Yeah, you think that like Pete fully could have shot you a message right whoa whoa down man. What are you doing? Delay that for two months. Yeah, because I think that they said that these are probably gonna ship in April I think that that's what people said. Yeah, I don't know I'm not sure if it says anywhere in here. I didn't actually look at the date No, but like there was something that was pointing towards like a like an April release and I forget what it was Like I saw a conversation about it Gotcha, I mean I would be sad to wait that long that will make me sad if that's true But they're beautiful like I they're they're probably maybe the best-looking models in the in the reveal Yeah, depending on your tastes, I mean, I do really dig these guys. This is this like I'm pretty jazzed about them Like I said some probably heads The only thing I don't love about these dudes is their heads.  Okay, there you go. Yeah, that's a shame Oh, there it is. Yep. Yeah, that's a shame that I have to wait that long But yeah, yeah, that's what I knew there was something in that that communicated in April release. So binary there you go Oh, cool. Oh, there was like an oh one thing in there. Yeah, yeah which would also suggest that That elves couldn't be as late as March like we talked about I had suspected it was gonna be a March release Like a late March release and that's what it looks like it might actually be So nice Cool. So, you know, that'll be nice I'll just have to figure out other conversions to do for it before then or just like say put that project on hold and Buckle down on my slaves to darkness or whatever. I don't know. Yeah, man Like imagine this like you could buy one of the new helicopters and use it as your ironclad Sure, the RK a copter thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, and then use those guys as your As your engine rigors. Yeah, I know dude. I know that's yeah, it's so good. Yeah Yeah But yeah, I'll use a lot of like pistolier heads and other type of heads and stuff like that So yeah, well, it's not just gonna take them straight like I will I'll make sure that they're I'll make sure they're appropriate as as appropriate as dudes riding mechanical horses with breathing masks and mechanical backpacks can be an AOS I will continue to push the line unabashedly All right. So obviously now it's time to talk about these these guys these guys here So let's talk about some lumineth realm lords. So I'm gonna I'm gonna pause. I've talked for a long time and too much Uh Oh, there's also a new gas a ghoul throck a thing, which is cool. Um, I always liked gas a ghoul I always loved getting killed by him repeatedly. I was I always played commissar yarrick and died a hundred times Uh, anyway Tom, what do you think about the high elves? I'm just gonna cycle through the individual units here and let you talk for a little while Well, I can't actually see you cycling because I understand if it doesn't matter. I'm gonna look at the spearman and stuff the range I love all of the units Yeah, let me say it that way Um, I think that um, they have a really interesting aesthetic for a lot of them I like, um I actually like the weird Spartan-esque like head dresses Um, I didn't think that those were terrible Um, I liked, uh, the active poses of the spearmen Um, they have way too much detail as would be expected for all gw's would release especially the elves. It's not true for all But yeah with elves Um, I mean I I'm not gonna lie. I'm not looking to paint an entire another army of mohawks Um Because I've been doing that for a while now And apparently I have to do it with elves too Um So there's that. Um, so yeah, I love the spearmen. Um, I I I like the round shields like I like their teardrop shields Um, so yeah, in general, I've liked a lot of those design directions that they came away with Um, moving on. I really like the, um I like the riders. Uh, they are a great silver helms Um call out. Uh, they really echo the the feel of silver helms like like on a lot of this I was looking I was like, oh, yeah, I already have those models Because uh, yeah I do. Um So yeah, I I love the action poses. I love the horsies. They look fantastic. Um, I I need to get a better eye on el-tharion The light of el-tharion mr. Empty armor here. I'll bring him up on screen. Uh, the unfinished Uh storm cast. Yeah, um, I think that's that's unfair. I think he's the best model in the range Well, that's what I'm saying was always the only good elf Uh, the only good high elf I should say I need to get my eyes on him is what I would say Like I want to like I want to like I want to To really good a good look at him to to To figure out, um, what I want to do with him is what I would say. Sure. Um So yeah, really love, uh, like again, and I like a lot of what el-tharion like his helm is really echoing back to a lot of You know his his prior like big phoenixy feather helm Um, and I already have a paint scheme kind of in mind for these guys So that's where I'm at regarding them Sure, and we know we have more units coming. So so let's blow by let me let me blow by blow it here Spearman, uh, if you had old loather and seaguard I congratulations like first of all I'm glad to see that I was exactly correct because I said they were going to be like another step away Then I cast warriors were and that's exactly what they are, right The only question was there that was in my mind was would you still be able to use your old units? And I think the answer is uh, yep So if you had old loather and seaguard, uh Congratulations, you could just keep using them or you can get the new stuff because and that's fine too Because the new stuff looks cool like, you know, great Just like how if you had old cast warriors, you could use those and feel good about it But you know, if not, that's fine. That's super cool. Um so Yep, great good old good old new version new new seaguard. Awesome Uh new new silver helms some of the horses legs are a bit weird I understand that's probably actually anatomically correct that horses do kick their leg out that far and straight when they when they gallop Um, it's just it's weird to catch the horse at that second You know, uh, like it just doesn't feel like uh, it feels like too Straight, but it's a minor quibble all in all. I think these dudes look nice. They're good modern interpretations of the Of the silver helms So yep, and again, if you had old silver helms congratulations, you still can use these models Uh And then the light of al-tharian was the one that impressed me Uh, I do want to talk about what other what else we think is coming tom because we know there's more units, right? They've said that quite clearly. Yeah. Yeah, like so this is what I would not be surprised about Is it just going to be all the units that they 86ed get new new new versions? Uh, no No, I think that we'll have something surprising like I think that there's going to be some surprises in there and like or the units that are are like the prior ones are going to be like Um, revisited so for example, like I could see a sword mastery somebody asked do old cast wear your bits fit on new cast Warriors, yes, depending on the bit like there wasn't a lot too old cast warriors So it depends what you mean, but if you mean like do the old heads fit on the new head the new bodies Yes, they certainly do At any rate continue because I did head swaps to old cast wear your helms. Go ahead. Yeah So I wouldn't be surprised for example if on one hand we have like rivers where we have like bow horsemen Right and that'd be a dual kit like that something like that wouldn't surprise me. Um, I could see easily see another I know we're getting another archer unit Yeah, because like a the image floated around with like the Uh The art We see like an elf with a new helm with a very like, uh elves of the north pole helm With like the little dangly like christmas, uh ornament Uh, and and you saw the edge of like he was holding a bow and it was a three string bow from the rumor engine I don't know if he was holding it or if it's just in front of him because I think that's probably the big like their new bull thrower But maybe Maybe or it could be their new like foot archers. We'll see Um, I I thought the same thing, but when I looked at the scale, I was pretty sure that it's actually he's holding the bow I think Either way, yes, that that thing that was that rumor engine is clearly a new bow. Yeah, because it's a new type of thing whether it's the bull thrower or whether they're foot archers Um, I would prefer it to be I would love if they didn't actually have any foot archers I think that would be really funny. Um, I don't know why but it would make me laugh um So I could see that I could see them doing something really unique with the swords like the sword masters Like if they wanted to do them making them like a wizard unit Like in the lore that used to be a thing that they could do Like they were like they were all basically fighter mages Sure, they're from the tower or whatever or whatever a poet.  I don't know Sure the evokers Um, I could see something like that. I think we'll get at least one like surprising unit. Sure I would hope uh, I would hope they're not. I mean like this guy is clearly a new thing Their goal here should be to introduce some that are clearly reminiscent of the old and some that are reminiscent of the new Which by the way is just a good business strategy Because they're not going to introduce a whole army where you can just proxy in your old seaguard Right silver helms and call it a day and like also bring back your dragon princes and your white lions and your whatever Like they're just not going to do that because that's that's uh, you don't make money do doing that Right, so they're not going to do that um Like that's not an insult It's just if if you came to me and I was like in management and you said we're going to release this whole new Line and they're going to be exactly like the old models in every way shape and form except like two steps more advanced I'd say no Go back to the sculptors and you tell them to make me at least three or four new units that have no connection to the old things Yep. No, I would agree to that. Um, and then, uh, uh We'll probably get a mounted hero of some type. Of course. Yeah, definitely I think they love singular mounted heroes as for now I think it'd be cool to pay off and have some kind of cat writing thing Like a big cat writing elf would be cool to sort of call back to the um To call back to the old lion stuff But like actually instead of just having it being lions pulling chariots or dudes who kill lions or whatever Just actually have people writing lions Um, we we could have another uh, as somebody has pointed out What about another toralon things is that aren't character related? Um, I think we could have that or simply have like a mounted toralon character. Sure. Um, I think that that is probably a High likelihood because we saw one of the toralon horns with the little dangly tassels that hasn't been Yeah, and I don't think that I don't think that's the one in teclases. So I think that there's probably In that picture. Yes, right. And so I suspect we probably have another toralon thing coming And it may be a mounted warrior. It may not be who knows Yeah, I mean the uh The I mean I I would suspect we wouldn't see like a dragon prince type unit because that was a mistake They classically made was having two cavalry units that were way too similar to each other Like just please don't make that mistake again and have multiple types of cavalry. They're basically the same thing Now if you want to have like dragon princes and they're dragon Princes Okay Where they're like literally dudes riding, you know dragons and that's our monstrous cav mount Okay, and they're on like small ish dragons Drakelings at like 92 mil. Yeah, man. Now i'm paying attention. Now you have my attention Can we actually be real dragon princes? Can we give like can we actually have some high fantasy in this fantasy? We've got enough horses and spearmen. Can we actually get something cool again now? Just say them these are supposed to be the elves, but let's get to the founder of the feast shall we tom? Enough of this ring a ding ding. I'll let's predict a thing. It's time to talk about this guy Oh techless All right, so first things first a human being and an artist worked hard on this and sculpted this So like it's fun to it's fun to Take the piss out of things or whatever, but like it is important to recognize that somebody worked very hard here Second caveat to this and I respect that artist's work a great deal. He's a sculptor I think this was brother tom who sculpted this And he uh, and he's a great sculptor who does a lot of amazing stuff Okay So great sculptor And second point is that all aesthetics are personal And my opinion of liking or disliking a thing does not in any way invalidate your like or dislike of a thing No matter what in any way I say should it affect how you feel or don't feel about a thing Now how I feel about this thing is this is a Train wreck I this miniature drives me up a wall and back down the other side It's the torl on but image flipped with a head swap and like somebody went into z-cad and added some fur I'll tell you what it feels like to me It feels like somebody showed up with the techless miniature and he was like on something Okay, like the techless miniature was sculpted and he was like He was in the game and they tested him and he was just like techless And he was just a guy like he used to be in his old war scroll, right? Yeah and Then somebody came to him and said and he was like dying too easy or he wasn't big enough Or they couldn't get what they wanted into his rules when it was just him at human size And somebody said quick. We need him out for him. And then somebody real quick went in and just grabbed the torl on file and was like Sure, there you go and make it happen because it just feels like the same exact thing Why I don't like the Sphinx face. I think that's horrendously ugly calaron or whatever his name is um The but the bird is the best part like if I could head swap the big bird monster And just like erase techless out of the picture. I would be like, oh, it's a cool mount You know what I mean? Like the the bird itself is fine. I like the torl on pose I like the ruins he's on that all looks good The the actual the feathers and the wings are some of the best feathers and wings they've ever done I don't know if you really looked on it like the detail on those like I zoomed away I didn't because I care. I give zero craps about the model. I understand I'm always fascinated by how they do wings. Okay, because like it's just I really like painting feathers And I like painting wings. This is some of the best wing sculpting that they've done. This is better than the base torlons They did fix that now Techless himself is just ugly. He's hideous top to bottom. He is I I don't even his ymda In fact, let's just go from the top to the bottom ready. Here we go.  I'm not going to zoom in but his face like when you get the close zoom in He looks like he's at the nunnery Uh, like he got like he got you know taken into a budapest nunnery. He's wearing He's wearing mc hammer pants. You can't fool me.  Just no why? Huh? Like that is the most insane place and and again, that's what makes it feel so last minute Right, um because he why is he not over the thing's head? Like your area of focus on this where you want to look where your eye is being drawn to is so broken and disconjointed like Artistically like just from a composition. There's no like there's all sorts of different ways you can do compositions and this is none of them um, I just He's in the ymca pose as well Which has been wonderfully replaced or the I just landed a big jump coming off of the While doing a floor routine in the eleventh uneven bars or the floor routine. Yeah, like I I dislike everything about this guy now. Yeah, you know the whole model The design points you to his toes in the wing joint Like that like everything in the model Holds your eyes right here push you to his toes. You can't you cannot look away from his hammer pants. Tom. You can't I know Like it's just like it's just baffling like all the lines notice that like the the like the wing extension feathers the shoulder joint The the the the sword Trajectory and the cape down his left his left leg or his right or left The staff everything points to his toes. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, again It's just shocking. Well, there's crossing lines here too. You have hard You have hard triangle lines here and you've got soft curving lines here like it's just that Yes, stop war hammer time. Absolutely. Look, we've all got to pray because that this that this scroll is not too legit So we can quit it because there is way too many pumps and a bump in this guy So that's all my mc hammer references i'm gonna make uh Hammer time. So I think that like his face to me as Uh Gary Percival is one to point out that it looks like a chinese grandma No, it just looks like the grandma from uh, like you said, actually we were talking about this Oh, no, Elena Tyrell Tyrell from uh, yeah Yeah, yeah, no, I mean it that that is another easy grab, you know, he looks like Elena Tyrell I mean at the end of the day like Let me just state it this way with this being the centerpiece model it I was put off the entire range Yep, I get it because because of this one model Like I I actually don't mind all of the other stuff But him but this as my centerpiece Made me want to just go i'll pass. I'll find something else. Sure Um Which would be awesome. So you're good to go Right. Well, I that's a thing like I had to think for like an hour and a half To figure out how I salvaged this monstrosity Yeah, sure in order to actually put a model down on the table that I'd be proud of that uses um teclas um now I think I have a way to recover him It and so that's the case now the question is is he playable is the army playable? Sure. Um, and so and we just won't know that until we have the book in hand Sorry, I'm just laughing at somebody in the comments that just killed me with their comment Uh at any rate, um, yeah, like oh boy Oh boy. Oh Uh, so, you know, yeah, not great. Here's the other thing. You know, by the way Have you ever assembled st. Celestine tom? No, of course not Um, okay, so Here's the problem and like somebody said, what if you just put teclas like let's just put teclas somewhere else Where you should be like behind the head. We're on the base or somewhere else. Okay So if you've ever assembled st. Celestine, she's held up in the air by magic toilet paper, right? She has her magic toilet paper that holds her always Yep And the magic toilet paper attaches to her cloak and it does so Not by just gluing on there, but there's actually these big indentations this big like sunk in indentation in her cloak Yeah, that the toilet paper seats into Okay This cloak does the same thing I'm sure it does. I'm sure that whole section of wing like if you remove teclas is you have to rebuild it Right, you've got to like you're gonna have to get out your green stuff and sculpt some new feathers over there Because that's gonna be a big sunken weird depression Where that isn't feathers and isn't sculpted. It's just literally it's form fitted to that cloak So that he'll like so there's actual, you know area where he'll stick and attach Yeah, right So, uh I'm just gonna jettison the whole monstrosity. Sure. Sure. Sure. Just all the bird goes for me All of it. He's gone.  He's a project He is he is like it's sad, but true So I just I don't know like Do you think he'll have his old spell back? I think he'll get his old spell back very popular to have moved these days I don't therapy does and uh, I think he'll be a triple caster again all the elvish gods We've seen so far are triple casters. I think they'll just continue that I mean like will he have a bonus? Like how good of a triple caster? That's the question Sure, but he'll be a triple caster all the elves are triple casters Sure Sure, we'll see Yeah, I just He just made me really sad I understand. Well, let's move to happier things. Okay. Okay. So at any rate, uh, yeah, that's that's him The big question is are we going to see tirion in this force and I got to tell you man I'm hopeful no Unless the other half of this army we haven't seen is all these angel elves that tirion's been working on Right. Sure. Sure. Like if this part of what we've seen is the least like all of this is fairly derivative I don't mean that in an I don't mean that in an in any kind of negative No, no, no, no, I understand you're saying. Yeah, like I just like it tracks Yes, it is the new chaos warriors were brilliant, but they were derivative of the old chaos warriors So that's not a bad thing right the Like this is a new Elthorian the others were new silver helms and new lether and sea guard or spider guard or whatever you want to call them right um and the Like techless is traditionally unimaginative He's the least imaginative of all of the the before elvish of the of the elvish pantheon He has the smallest imagination So it doesn't surprise me that he would just be like well, what am I going to make as a god? I'll remake all the stuff I used to like right Sure Techless is a wash in nostalgia Uh Whereas like everybody else's description of their forces that we got you know have all been amazing like Basically marathi just you know has all her witch elves because she just pulled most of them out And she kept all the rejects that came out of snakes and birds and stuff and you know weird bat creatures like hey excellent She's like yeah, that isn't mine. I don't mind any of that at all. You look like me Right exactly. Yeah.  Oh, they photo shot Hey woes says they photoshopped tirian out of the model you're looking at oh like he's on the other wing Oh He's in the same pose on the other wing I would be amazed Maybe he's mounted. Maybe he's mounted on the he's on the back. Sure. Yeah Yeah, boy would that explain a lot Uh I mean they give us a 360 rotation of this the model in the one video Yeah, it rotated all the way around so I doubt it But I would really hope just like teclas isn't uh Or that this is teclas's force make teclas's force to call back to the old high elves with like reimagining and homages and stuff like that I'm cool with sure like that's fine. That's great That has a great purpose both like in versimilitude in the world as well as like sales to make people happy who wanted this kind of aesthetic It is a win-win in every sense of the word um So like just do that But like I also want to see what Like that that little set that paragraph of text That they threw In there about tirians angelic elves that he's crafting.  I'd buy that army Yeah, right just deliver on that promise and and plus I love the idea of all four of the elvish Pantheon having their own force at their disposal Right. Um, I think that'd be super cool like because clearly morathe and malarian get their own forces Well, there's gonna be five right because a laurel technically is still an elf god Fair point. Yeah, sure. Sure. I'm at all four of this particular group This grouping because a laurel sits aside from all them I mean if that happened tom, there would be six elvish forces in the game, right? Right, but there's no real gods for the uh, the drowned ones Sure, but I mean they're still they're still an elvish force. But yes, they are they are I mean We have what three dwarf forces Uh, yeah, we have three dwarves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah, obviously like the dispossessed who is clearly still around now in part of cities They're they're in there for good Uh, and then there's technically Like wonderers are there as well, even though they don't have a god fair dinkum seven Seven elvish forces Yeah, I mean which is the number of elves in the world would be way too high like way too high Somebody looked at three elvish forces or four elvish forces and we're like those are rookie numbers. We gotta pump those up But uh, so yeah fair fair seven seven elvish forces um and uh, so I I'm uh, I I want to really see those angel things, but you know, we'll see time will tell I'm sure we'll hear more about these guys soon. I would imagine they'll be out before Adept con so like they'll probably be the big march release. So Yeah, I would guess that That's fine. Yep. Absolutely. Uh, also other big news baboom speaking of a thing. We're getting up before the lumen f Uh, finally the battle tome that everyone's been waiting on or at least if you read facebook comments Uh, that's what you would think and uh, so there you go So order to you know, we're getting seraphon and they get a new terrain piece and of course Uh, we and everyone else on the internet called it because this was like so obvious Right sure sure that they were gonna get a big pyramid and they got a big pyramid. So Weird there you go. They got a big pyramid Cool. I I mean I'm actually really interested in the piece on top like I want to buy that and just make that normal table terrain Yeah, sure and then use the magic swirly stuff for as a conversion for 100. Yeah, yeah like this is one of the first like, um Just generic army terrain pieces that I would just buy to have on my table because it's cool Right, like it's just a cool piece to have on your table. Yeah, and I agree. The swirly thing that becomes something on a base Like that's absolutely a basing bit Uh, maybe something that uh, tech class is floating above. Yeah, sure. Sure. Absolutely Uh, but yeah, this is cool. I mean probably uh, no new models. Obviously that's that's other than the than the big thing here So we're gonna we're gonna probably get a scaven like release where Um Where everything is just kept and you know, that's what it is your your old resident metal models Yep Oh, man, I hope that that's not a 60 dollar terrain piece like uh, like the the gloom spike gets shrine I who knows? I I don't know. Uh, I will I also love how they're retconning this so hard This is my favorite bit of thing From this, I don't know if you caught this tom Uh, here this I want to talk about this piece of retcon in the article Okay, I'm gonna read it verbatim. This is this is the most beautiful narrative into retcon. I've ever heard A reading You'll have the chance to find out how the original refugees from the world that was became the Celestially charged starborn and how the seraphon are changing into the coalesced Whatever that means. Oh, I can tell you what that means KG article All right, let me back that up. I can explain how the original refugees from the world that was slan You wrote remembered their rest of their people into existence as dreams And made them into like weird star, you know order demons And then you decided after audience reaction to that that no no In fact, they should just be lizard people with spawning pools And so you're gonna call them the coalesced because they remembered them long enough and hard enough that they just became real real Like I cracked your code guys.  You can say no no mine are still starboard. They're still dreams Or no mine are minor coalesced. They actually did what I wanted them to do Which is you know, like keep all of these on the table as options. Yes. Yes, great. So we'll get the whole gamut. I'm excited It's fantastic. Uh, I caught that little piece at the end as I was reading this article and I was like Nice try not sliding that one by me Uh, so yeah, this will probably be february. I would assume right because they said this is coming before Yeah, I would assume that this is this will be sooner. Yes. Yeah Uh I I disagree king bread because the malign important story was after the reaction to that Red cons don't have to happen all at once. They can be a building thing And yes, I read that story too and they've clearly like wanted to move back to seraphon being physical beings This is going to be their way. But then people kept going. I thought they were just dreams. This is their way to go back and Tidy all that up in one nice. I mean their battle poem says otherwise Yeah, I think this is just a nice way to tie it all together and that's fine. That's that's a fun story actually I like when writers do clever stuff like that where like you sort of get meta and just integrate it into the story I have no problem with that. Hang a lampshade on it. I'm not complaining. It's great It's great Okay, uh, and then of course we've got uh, these dudes. What do you think about these guys, tom? We see we got some worm spat. I mean these guys are amazing I saw all those and I was like Yeah, I mean like it made me want to paint some nervel to be honest Like between that and uh, other thing we're about to talk about I was like, I don't know I could You could paint up some uh, blackings Sure, absolutely. Uh, so this was you know, this is obviously the underworlds war band the worm spat And uh, I like that we're getting a new rottbringer sorcerer here. All right. Um, because clearly that model I like how we're using the underworlds war bands as a chance to like offer an updated model for some of the outdated Um heroes Yeah, some of the outdated heroes that are still in like fine cast or something like that But like obviously these guys, I mean the the dude on the right is gross and I couldn't paint him But I will say like I love the dude on the left this guy over here Who looks kind of like a chosen or whatever Um, or like a bliking I guess but you know, he's that kind of a build all in case in his armor That's a great look that dude looks I agree with alex butler 9 10 prettier than teclas's face Yep, yep, absolutely. Um Yeah, this one's awesome. Like this is just amazing I have a feeling you're gonna see like unit entries at painting competitions for the next year or two Get ready. Uh, are you ready for it? Uh, because And then a little nerdling dog. Yeah, the nerdling dog cat is awesome. This this is a weird thing Yeah, this one's a great one Uh, she's cool. Both of them are cool Fantastic Dig it. Yep. Love them. Love all of it. Yeah, that's it. That that is some great great great sculpting Uh, okay Go away picture. Thank you Uh, boo boo boom a zote.  So just like if you ever think your weekend's going bad your weekend's not that And alex is a true hero. He absolutely deserves this award. He runs, you know, amazing Tournament. He's done such a great job growing adept con the nicest guy in the world Obviously co-host of garage hammer as well And I was super excited to see him on this list. So that's wonderful. Totally agree. Totally agree I I don't know the rest of these folks. I'm sure they're all also awesome. I just don't know any of them so Um, but I knew alex so I wanted to shout him out and say I hope he's he and his wife are both doing well Yep, I agree Oh, and yes, there is a sons of of bahamut easter egg in the in the zote video. That's correct We can go back up here to the zote video. It is in here, but like It's I don't know if it'll actually come through or not Okay, guys, the last vegas open preview is coming up We need to think of something new and amazing to show the fans. We'll let this go. It needs to be bold Awesome, but also classic and nostalgic. What have you got hit me What about sisters a battle people like those, right? We just did that steve. Keep up Can we bring back pointy elves? Again loving the enthusiasm, but that's already in the works. Okay. Get this Codex primarously tenants Actually, it's left tenants and no the world just isn't ready for that yet Sons of bahamut. That's just a myth steve. Don't be daft Nice, so there we go, uh nice throwaway line into that and yes night. You're not fooling me with your myth. Obviously that's happening So but good reaction. So there you go Yeah, that's lbo, uh great stuff Sorry, I didn't know exactly what second it was at otherwise. I would have just fast forwarded to it. Yeah Uh, okay uh, so There we go lvo exciting times Yeah, uh pointy elves look cool look forward to seeing more glad sarah fawn are finally getting this book Glad we're finally closing out this chapter right of uh Of the book reprints and now we can focus on just some really exciting stuff See what's new? Uh, yeah, I'm digging it man. I'm digging it Yeah, I mean the other big news that we got was the wrath of the ever chosen book that's going on pre-order this weekend. Um, that's Now I'm excited Uh, yeah, so we have go ahead Uh legion chaos ascendant which looks like it's the demon the mixed demon legion Basically with four different gods that are chaos like ascendant Like each of the four gods is like sub-builds probably I'm guessing it's what we're seeing there And then uh, they said they had like 13 other allegiances and four new battalions. So Super stoked Yeah, so many allegiances. Uh, I can't wait for this to Uh, completely hammer lov Uh, I'm sure he read those and was like 14 new allegiances. What? So now he's got to track all of that because they'll probably all be Like what whatever we'll see how do you see how they're not gonna be an allegiant They're gonna be sub-builds And so this is gonna take the place of your coven or your edenheight host or something like that I understand that on the table of contents we got revealed it just says allegiance abilities But the shape of that could be in any of a many fold. Yes. Yes. I mean Is the celestian host its own allegiance? Or is it just slanesh? It's just slanesh. Okay. It's a bill of slanesh Dependent my the point of that what I was saying is depending on where you come down on that is how you would you'll probably answer this question Right. Yeah, right. Yeah, like some people like like the idea of that being tracked separately And and like I think it's valuable because tempest I is very different than like finicia You know, um, but yeah, we'll see I mean, this gives me a lot of hope I'm because I you know, there's obviously a lot of demon stuff in there But there's there's clearly a lot for all of them And I'm really hoping there's one in there that's like super good for warriors and knights And chosen and stuff like that, you know what I mean? Like one of those types of things that's all about real steel Uh, so I I dig on that Uh, I but I'm I'm excited about many of these there was the several of them that are clearly slanesh focused Very excited there always excited for more slanesh content Uh, now that slanesh is uh is fair again and everything's fine there Um It's perfectly good Uh, so yeah, lots of new stuff in that book as well as a bunch of new cool narrative stuff Like the siege rules updated looked really cool. We got a little spoiler of that Which looked really good, uh new rules for like wandering monsters and having wandering Endless spells and new realm stuff, you know, most of that will probably be narrative, but great All the narrative stuff. I love all the new narrative stuff. The other thing that I love by the way Let me just say this Like what this book tells me? Is that like who the gates are unlocked as for like where we can go with these types of campaign books? Um for like, you know, like they could do a new city's book As a narrative book like this with a bunch of allegiances for cities of sigmar for other realms Yeah, yeah, sure. This could this could be the form cities of sigmar 2 takes Right, right. Yeah, like they don't have to uh release an entirely new book They basically take what's already there and maybe introduce a handful of new units Yep Yep, so I mean this is just like I'm I'm very excited about this book I'm I'm sad. I have to wait another week and a half to get it I don't know if man who reads book will read this book or not. I hope so It'd be cool if we could actually get what that is This weekend, but um, obviously this one's high up on my pre-ear list. I mean, I will definitely be getting this one Yeah, no, I agree. It's neat. I'm looking forward to it Uh, as as somebody who has I realized the other day. We were kind of having a discussion about like which grand alliance you favor Yep, sure And I was so I was thinking about it And I realized that the answer for me is it's chaos like chaos There's a question for you Like most of your armies are chaos Yeah, like I have a big corn army a big zinch army a huge slanesh army I have a truly massive scaven army a beast of uh chaos army Right, and I'm actually in the process of making another corn slash slanesh army if it's just in slaves Uh, so yeah, it's it's definitely chaos Yeah, I'm definitely order like there's just and there's like there's no challenge with that between uh doc between like all of my variations of dwarves and cities and elves and um Like it's certainly the one that I favor And yeah, as somebody pointed out like, uh, that's actually a really good that's I need to scroll back up to the comment here Uh, but cities. Oh, there you go. Alex said it cities of sigmar You mean defenders of azir when it shows gordrack smashing the gate down with that god be skull No, but it could be gordrack attempt attacking Maybe it could be attacking azir. I would hope not but who knows um as long as he's rebuffed at the end of it And or it could be just him attacking like hammerhaul itself or or some cities are going on a rampage across the realms against all the cities Like doing a combined assault against a bunch of cities because the idea behind wrath that he ever chosen is Uh Catechrose like it's motivated by a narrative event, right?  Yeah, sure Uh, I think that and the gosh takes the all points Uh, it'd be cool. It'd be a neat ending But I doubt it because if you look at the table of contents that doesn't seem to be how the narrative works out If you read the table of contents I like do you remember when the fur would you remember when the fan of menace came out tom? Yeah, okay, and like if you bought the soundtrack beforehand you knew Such and such because the death of quigan. Look. I'm not I'm not ashamed to spoil a 21 year old movie Um, or what a however long it was um Like one of the tracks on there one of the John Williams tracks was the death of quigan, right and you're like, oh come on all Right and so like if you read the the table of contents, which seems to be in the narrative order, right? Yeah It's like Midway through is like catechrose triumphant Okay, and then like later on it's like oh never mind Like that's the best way I can describe What it ends up saying? Uh in the in the table of contents is it's like yep, he he wins And then for a bit. Yes, exactly.  Yeah, because it's like uh, catechrose triumphant mortar catechrose Relentless conquest arch eons wrath and then deathless glory deathless glory. Yeah So Show me deathless glory. It's kind of Oh, we lost tom Tom's internet gave out He'll be back in a second. I'm here No, I know you'll be here. I'm here We're just gonna let your internet catch up because it died for a second. All right now talk Okay, I don't know you're back. Yep. Yep. You're back All I'm saying is I think cat it like I think they're gonna have a significant victory here I don't know what that means like it could mean like they take the all points But they still don't control a majority of the gates or something. Um But like so I think that they'll probably carve up the pie Let me just say that that'd be cool. Yeah, they brought all the all points and kind of had it be had it be like open warfare terrain Yeah, because like the the narrative right now is that death is ascended Like that's what's happening. Is that like this this entire soul wars um arc Is the threat that Nagash and his forces are are bringing to the mortal realms And so like this would only continue to track with that. Sure And especially if like Catechrist does establish a foothold When sigmar couldn't It could be really interesting. It's all I'm saying Nope fair. So time will tell Uh other news items, uh I think we had the spoiler that we another another shipping label spoiler in that we got the dice set for the um The dock warband daughters of cane warband and the um, what's the other one? We mentioned it earlier Oh, the the new iron jaws slash Other warband warband. Yeah. Yep. So we got both of those And there's some cool art there. So like, you know, probably a couple of brutes and maybe something else There's like one kind of armorless type of work.  She feels like she belongs in this right um So that'd be cool. It'd be cool if we also got a medusa Um on foot, but I would like that. I doubt it, but that'd be cool Totally agree As hawo said for the narrative for wrath of the ever chosen. We'll cat across that bridge when we get to it Solid solid a plus work a plus work hawo. Yeah, don't ever change uh, okay So, uh, other news. I mean you want to talk about some tournaments some from this last weekend. There was a lot A lot um, yeah, we had uh, there was wapaka and lvo and the he won and Can con and can con and the texas masters Um, there were a lot of a lot of very significant events. Yep. Yep. And you know, like I think what we saw uh You know, it's it's like I'll I'll let llv stats speak for themselves kind of as things happen He's done it. He and aos shorts have done a good job of wrapping up kind of the events things to note are that uh, Both wapaka and lvo did not use new ko or new zinch right Right as he won and can con did use new zinch And what we saw is that when new zinch was on the table it was Overperformant to what you would expect Ascendant. Yes. It was very very potent um, you know dominant Yeah, it was good. It was real good and You know, like again, I don't want to get into any About it. It's bent. It needs to be fixed. There you go. How good was it though? Super good. Like too good I mean, it's just too good. Yes um For those that haven't seen the stats. We'll just say this at heat or at can con three of the top six armies were zinch change host including In including the winner And and there's a change host on table two that lost Um to a really clever obr army that was negation a bunch of writers. It was fantastic. It was amazing I watched that army play by the way. Okay, so I want to just talk about the the petrogash army with the all the horsies for a minute Okay, I watched all those top armies play obviously because we were we were I was doing the streaming with robbin So like since dan and I were doing the roving reporting in that game six I got to really watch all of the those last games And the uh like really closely and that list was really cool Um, because it had zero more tech Right. It was all ponies And the ponies were So much like we're so strong Because he just plowed over Uh Between negash and the writers it was literally like he was just able to plow over the enemy the speed of it Was outrageous right because he because the cavalry are so much faster than the more tech They could go and you'd see them just like take objectives and then spin and just smash through units Like they can do the damage right they can still get the same buffs and stuff And they were just unbelievably effective. I thought it was a really really clever build. Actually, there were a lot of really cool builds I liked can con like when you if you looked at just like the top three You would think that like oh kind of boring because it was like change host Uh change host obr fire slayers like literally the three bogeymen right now of the meta But I mean fires aren't bogeymen. Come on now. They are because that's the other thing I noted is that they're also bent And and need adjustment But there were so many cool things going on. There was cities did really well Um, there were several cities lists in there a couple in the top. I love the hammer in the top I love the hammer haul list. Um, yeah with prime time dropping down behind the lines and double piling in Uh, that's the cellist in prime prime time Was a brilliant like because he can drop down and trigger the ability for himself and he can definitely show in their zone Uh and him fighting twice, he's a I mean cue the Miley Cyrus man because he comes in like a wrecking ball when he's piling and fighting twice Um, there was a fire slayers list that used two Uh gun haulers in it that I absolutely loved and those gun haulers were like according to the player And I I believe it because I watched him play a couple games. They were just mvp Um because he just threatened every objective on the table every round because both of those things could just pick up and go redeploy Um, there was an anvil guard list. It was like two dread lords on black dragon a sorgh on black dragon And then the rest was just like chariots scurge rudder chariot And it was just plowing its way through some of the things that were because so many of the lists rely on monsters And he was just like smashing them to bits because all those chariots will just Uh, we'll just like he he fought a couple boulder head lists and just I mean he rolled them He rolled those boulders body Yep, um So that was super cool. Like there was a lot of really cool lists and a lot of really cool players uh at cancon It was it was a really really amazing event Nice, um, but change is too strong like I watched a change host versus slanesh game Would you like my impression of that game tom? I know you can't see me, but the audience will see what I'm doing Okay, here's my impression of the change host versus slanesh game. You ready? I'll be the slanesh player These are the models on the table I'm gonna put them over here in my bag and these are the models on the table I'm gonna put them over here in my bag.  Oh wait. I get to summon a new thing Oh, it's dead again. Put that back there and back there and I don't have an army and thank you very much Like it was it was like a wave Rolling over slanesh and just watching it melt. You know what I mean? It was it was It was like a scene from the day after tomorrow. Okay Like it was an unstoppable apocalypse rolling over slanesh. There was just nothing. There was zero hope Um, because that that list just so outmatched it Yeah, I mean and then so that was can con, uh, and then the reports we heard from, uh From he won were equally grim and in fact, uh, I didn't I could I didn't end up end up seeing who what the top 10 ranking for For he won was Uh, but I did see that uh zeech took uh first second and third place at he won So apparently it's pretty good Yes, I mean, I I know it's weird. I know that nobody could have ever predicted this But uh that happened. So this is the world we live in. Let's hope that the FAQ does some, you know, some serious work Which we have seen some encouraging signs on that. I mean that that happened at their in their backyard They saw it happen right and we haven't seen the FAQ yet So one has to think that gives them pause. Well and there was an FAQ floating like they Apparently the table judges had an FAQ ruling on a bunch of the stuff that they were deploying At the event which is probably just like the questions and answers and then they got to go back and think if they want to Actually adjust stuff. Yep. Yep. Okay. Sorry. There. There we go. Thanks, Dan Uh change host that he won was first second third 9th 13th 15th 19th 20 second and then 161st At at he won at he won that that that's that yes, correct Uh, how I I don't know who that 61st player was but I thumbs up to that LLV He was responsible for 66 of the losses Because I believe the numbers were I saw LLV's initial treatment in Across all weekend. I think they said they lost five games at at all of the events Like all of the I think it was five games because it was There's more than that. Give you like unless you're taking out all mirrors or something Because well as the result because it was like 70 they had a 75% win rate Don't hit the table not taking out mirrors. Sorry that a 75% win rate not taking out mirrors And it jumped over 80% as soon as you took out mirrors. Sure. Yeah. Yeah, I mean It's yes, it's too strong That's it's and it's not that it's too strong like in some balanced way again Like I mentioned I kind of had a little discussion about this on twitter I don't want to be super negative. I don't want to be anything about it There was a lot of like there was a lot of toxicity around it this weekend That doesn't help anyone. That's not good. Let's not do that Okay And and as I said on twitter my concern is never with like ultimately with these kind of tournament stats really like I don't really care about army win percentages and tournament things like that That's not to in any way impugn LLV's work because LLV's work is not like it is so valuable But it's not in saying. Oh, there's a problem with the tournament scene It's that's not what we're pointing at in my mind. What we're using is the tournament scene to point And say oh, there's a problem with the thing underneath it And it's going to result in other bad play experiences for other people tournament players or tournament players They like challenges for the most part people who are on top tables will build armies to tackle this stuff They'll find their way around it What I'm concerned with is is pointing back the other direction of what do those stats say and and the people who don't know How to stop that who don't know how who aren't going to set up on screen Who are going to understand the extremely complex maneuvers you have to go through to fight through this nonsense And and we'll just get lifted They'll just get lifted off the table And they'll be like, oh, okay. I guess that's what this game is like. I would not like to play this anymore because this was not fun at all Uh, there you go. Uh, by the way, if that individual gets taken out of uh at heat one Um and mirrors are discounted there at a 91% win rate It seems too high Seems too high Okay, so at any rate like just I My feeling is the reason we haven't seen the FAQ yet is because they are very much aware of it And we won't have to wait like we did for slanesh and we'll get it first I hope so and cool with cool beans. You know what I mean like great I would love to not live with six months of this. Yeah. Yeah, it's fine So like I'm I reserve all all judgment until the FAQ comes out and and you know We see whatever that looks like. So there you go And yeah, exactly like I think lv just said it exactly correct Which is which would be my my ultimate statement, which is you know events players adapt Right, but events players are one percent of the player population Right, and I'm much more like I don't care. No offense. I go to tournaments all the time too I don't care about us. We'll be fine I very much care about the other the other 98 for 99 of hobbyists out there Yeah, I'll figure it out. That's fine. Like I'll have a way to deal with it Or whatever, but it my complaint is not for me. It's for Everybody else.  It's it's fine You'll be right like I'll find something else to cheat. It's fine But my concern is again for the play experience that it generates everyone else. Yeah So that's that's all I have to say more on zinge. So we beat this horse to death um You know, we'll wait for that and then we all reserve We don't burn to death and we yes indeed and and in the meantime We remember to stay positive to have fun games and to not attack people because that's uh, That's never the right answer, right? Yeah, and obviously if you want to be uh change us you just have to be Ben Zavala Oh, well, that's easy. I can do that Ben Because out of the five games that Ben played three of them were against change hosts Any one against two of those? Hey waste way to go Yeah, Ben. Oh, I did an actual job this last week. He's a great player Uh, so at any rate enough of that um Yeah, Steve, I I'm sure it will Steve had said I hope it hits before holy wars. I mean, we've got a good, you know Three and a half weeks on that. So I think we'll be fine um, okay I mean, I'm excited for my holy war's army, Steve. I am I am beyond jazzed for what I'm bringing to holy wars So it's gonna be the army. I've always wanted to pilot.  I wish I could be there with y'all I you you'll be missed tom, but that's all right. We'll have you the next month at adept con. So there you go Uh, okay When the long road you're on is hopefully over All right, hopefully I'll be done writing this time next week. That's the goal. We're all excited. So Uh, yes, I agree with cinderfall gaming a hundred percent. That's the right attitude. Okay. So, um, all right uh the let's uh Let's talk about some other stuff. That's not news. Here we go. Oh, hey Scott Which I want to say Scott ran a great tournament this weekend at lvo way to go Scott great event I heard some very very fun things about it. I heard a lot of positive people So well done as always Scott. Uh, go ahead tom Uh, the what we predicted when we did our show with coach came true Um, the unlock happened. Um, so one of the achievements that we said is that that gosh gets hand of dusted By the changeling ash ash mcqueen. I think is his name. Yeah ash did it in I want to call ash out ash Congratulations, uh in game six. He brought us changeling got himself on a bail wind Stole hand of dust and a hand of dust negash with his own hand of dust So like just to go through what had to happen there the change house teleport was automatic to put him at nine inches Right. Sure. He had to successfully cast the bail wind over negash's dispel, which he did He had to successfully, uh, then so he sold the spell then he had to successfully, um Steel or sorry cast the hand of dust over negash's dispel Which he did and then then the negash player had to pick the wrong hands and he did and there was no die and Dust it was amazing Like he yelled out and I ran over to him. I was like, well, what happened? What happened and he's like that's where negash used to be my changeling just handed us to him. I was like I was like so happy for him. I ran over to magro like immediately and interrupted him in the middle of his game And it was like it happened. It happened Uh, yeah, it was great Uh, I also want to offer an errata a correction From from last week. Uh, we talked about placing horrors Um, you cannot place horrors within three inches You can and b2b fair you cannot play place any unit within three inches of another unit On rejenning models ever now because of an f aq ben johnson shared that in one of the whatsapp chats I thought that was the case, but I didn't have time to like go look it up while we were talking Thank you. There is an f aq that that says that you cannot ever place Like you can never play you can never pull units into combat by placing units The answer is when you're executing a setup tom That's the wording when you're doing a setup you cannot place models into combat with a unit unless they're already in combat Unless that unit is already in combat basically within three inches of that of that unit Yep, and so that is a thing which means that like I had and not only that it was it spelled out on the horror Horror scroll and I just missed it in the word too Yep, and lov. Yes. That was game six That was the last chance that that ash had to do it And it was he was up on the top tables. Yeah, I want to say he was on like table I'll insult him, but I want to say it was like table 10 or 11 or something like that He was he was pretty high up there the tables were kind of unusually aligned. That's why I don't I'm not sure exactly what it was so There you go great great move by ash beautiful beautiful Uh That was a that was a move of moves right there Uh So, okay cool. Let's talk about some uh, talk about some pick of the week man. What do you got? What do you want to share with everybody? Um, man, there's just so much. Um, I think that uh, I want to so there's I mean there's two pieces. Well, let's do this one. Um, rob Launched his can or the can con can con coverage Was launched on the t sports network a new twitch channel And I want to call everybody's attention to it in particularly to t being tabletop sports network And uh to the game six of can con it was a delightful game six And if you want to see a wonderful game played by wonderful gentlemen Um Vying for the can con championship, uh, go watch it. It's enjoyable I would also recommend game one Uh, if that I'm not sure if that got uploaded or not. I didn't go look But game one because I mean it was streamed so you can go back and watch it but um, Because that was the that was Joe Pagano versus randy and the fruit tingler and uh, that was uh, Tomb Kings versus death versus fbc, I should say And uh, that was a real fun game and and rob and I got to do the commentary on that. It was great to to commentate on uh on tomb kings So that was super great good So that's my pick game six Uh, yeah super super great pick. Uh, mine is also can con related Since that was the the nature of the thing and I'm sorry if ash wasn't actually having change host as this thing Maybe he was in internal conflagration or or sorry Maybe he was in a different battalion or didn't have a battalion. I don't know. I thought he did teleported the cap there But it doesn't matter. He had him at nine inches. That's what relevant. Okay So I wasn't watching the game until he called me over and I didn't look at his list. I just know he did it Thank you. There you go. He'll have some manners arc and arc and I even better. Yeah, that's amazing Thank you robert mcmillan. I appreciate that correction. Thank you Um, so the other thing I don't know. Yes. The other thing I got to do Uh When I was down at can con was participate in crystal dragon, which is their painting competition down there, which was great That's was judged by uh, Trent denison by by big deno and the uh The team from craft world studios Nice, which and uh, it was very nice Um, cool very very cool competition very very very high standard Very different than what I was expecting to be completely honest. So I didn't really bring the right models for it Like I because it's a it was a painting competition at the gaming convention So I brought like mostly gaming models, but actually it's it's much more like a european style competition and um So that's fine. I had a lot of fun. I got to meet deno who was awesome Like this actually everybody I met up there was great. I got to meet three painters that I've wanted to meet for a really long time Uh, which is uh, Trent denison and dave call and um Uh and meg maples. So they were all there and it was awesome I got to talk chat with all of them gonna gonna set up some interviews with the artists with all of them and uh, I mean, they're just the nicest people Seeing their stuff in person was wonderful.   Why did you do this? You knew this was bad. Look at this base. Why did you ruin this great model with this base? You know like it was very blunt judging, right? and um And so but it was just it was really clear like feedback was instant But it was very honest and open and transparent. I thought it was super cool. Um, their standard was Like through the roof high Uh, so it was amazing definitely made me want to come back next year bring some bring some uh, some pieces for that And uh, it was great. So I want to like shout out crystal dragon going on at can con I think a lot of people don't even know it goes on So like I'm gonna talk about it in advance of next year's show because I'm gonna go back for next year Most likely I don't know that for sure yet. It's a long way away, but most likely I want to go back for next year Um, I spoke to my wife and she was like, well, am I coming with you next year? Okay, well if she's asking that question, then don't say no just be like, yeah, sure That's whatever you want, you know, then we're going. Um So, uh, so that was so I and I loved it had a great time down there. Everybody was amazingly awesome Anyway back to my pick of the week. Sorry.  Uh, I want to actually point everybody toward a blog that uh, deno wrote that trend denison wrote about Getting better at miniature painting and sort of the psychology of it and how to think about it how to set reasonable goals how to how to understand your journey Uh, he works and he works and really he breaks it down into these really nice. Um He's really nice little categories. It's a great article Shout out to a os shorts who sent it to me Not long before the show and I read it and I was blown away by it So I'll include that down in the show notes if you're someone who's you know looking for Just whether you want to get into competition or you just want to take the next step on your painting journey I think it's an awesome article read. It's full of very like, uh, good ways to think about your own improvement and how you're How to put yourself in the right mode to learn So there you go um, yeah So that's that it'll be linked down below so tom hobby time you've probably worked on nothing Zero, um, I'm doing 14 hours a week seven days a week right now Seven days a week right now with work stuff trying to get this done Um, so I have a week of no more hobby and then I should be freed up to paint and whatever I want Awesome, and I'm super excited about that Uh, yeah, I can imagine Tristan asked, how did it go with the fires? I mean, it was fine. I think when we were driving down We could see like one in the distance But for the most part it was fine. I mean they're they're out there in the in the bush mostly um It rained a bunch the like first night we got there and that like a really really big storm came through and I that probably suppressed Um, a lot of it the rest of time it was sunny and gorgeous air was crystal clean It was summertime god being in the southern hemisphere in the middle of the winter is amazing like Oh boy, it was like 85 to 90 and pure sunshine every day.  Yeah for six months out of the year. Yeah Yeah, yeah, um, yes, there was some challenges with the airport on thursday Um, but I didn't fly into cambera airport like there was challenges in that cambera airport with smoke Did you get like uh flu No, it's not a no I don't know. No, it's right. That's happening. I mean sure. Sure. Uh, no, I'm fine. Um, back No Whoop, there goes mid. No, it's not funny for people people getting sick with that kind of thing. That's not a joke Um, but like no, I was fine. Um The uh Yeah flights were great came back. No issue. Oh, all fine. All super fine um The uh, yeah, so that's that's oh and my hobby time. Yeah. Yeah, what am I been working on? Uh, I've been working on this girl since I got back. So there she is Tom can't see her in the camera if I won't focus but that's all right, uh, which is my Uh corn demon prince the one that can be used, you know, basically in my corn slash lanesh force So she's a little pinky red and she has a nice little blue glow coming up from below There you go. Anyway, she's coming along So, yeah, oh She's fun Uh, I this is like I love you creature caster. I do Like the sculpt itself is good, but Why Why with this armor? Do they just not stop like just make Panels just give me panels of armor. Please some can there be a flat space on her freaking armor? It's like so overdone, but it's fine like the the the face and the body and all that are so beautiful and perfect and like the proportions and everything about her is nice like I like Everything it's just the armor, especially around like her arms and her hips and stuff is just so overdone Still a great model though great standing for a demon prince Uh, so there you go Um Okay Right on tom It's our five year anniversary. How about that, huh? Uh, it is It is a long journey my friend Uh, we have clocked Yeah, you've got some stats I do hit us with some stats tom I do tom gonna do his best lv impression now and and talk about some stats We've done almost two hundred and sixty shows Yep Um, we've totaled over Uh, I'm trying to average the last four weeks because uh, these numbers were before the last four weeks So we've probably done over 485 hours of content Warhammer weekly content um And in the first Uh, we have done more hours of content in the last two years of shows than our first three years combined. Sure um Yeah, we've done a lot. We've done this for a while. We have Uh, it's great. Uh, the I'm like I I love hitting this this This sort of anniversary thing. It's just a date like anything else, but it's nice to mark these milestones It's crazy to think about how much the game has changed We've had so many great people on the show.  Um Obviously this one is just the two of us because I thought it would be you know Indulgent to have somebody else come on and talk about hey, I think your show is great um But I but I really am I am thrilled about is everybody who's stuck with us who's continued like as the audience To continue to build people who come watch live who watch the show after whenever you're watching this Um, obviously we wouldn't be here if all of you weren't here Uh, so that's great. Um tristan, I don't mind but you can't put links in the in the chat He'd ask me to get through up a link for it. Um, you can you can put it down in the comments after the show And then it you'll be fine and if it goes to spam, I'll make sure to approve it But I just I don't have a way to approve a link in this To to be clear vince has never uh Vince has never missed a show correct Uh, I I have I've missed like three Yeah, yeah, you have but that's I mean Maybe a little bit more than that, but vince has never missed a show right So your anniversary tom will technically be in like a month from now, but that's all right. Sure. Um No, it's been really good and I I really love doing this show And I think about how much we've been here for the the Sort of watching aos form into what it is today, which I think is an amazing game We're seeing the biggest events we've we've ever had right just on and on and on these 200 plus person events They're just getting knocked out everywhere Um people enjoying the game the game's in a very healthy spot. Yes, we can talk about a a weird bent thing in an army here They're fine But like that doesn't matter that's all just stuff to be those are just edges to be sanded down Right. Yeah, and we know they will like we know they will That's one of the differences between now and what I would say like four years ago. Yeah, is that like The reliability that we have seen In correcting the meta and in responding to issues like this has like has like the responsiveness has just went up dramatically Like that's just that's just data like that's just the reality of where we're at Um, and so yes, whatever this, you know, whatever rough edges that are currently in the meta I mean it'll get fixed. Yeah, exactly So when I look at the game right now and I see especially the seraphon tome coming out You know, we went from like we went from a time where people were like having beards and saying like, uh And shouting things when they attacked to get re-rolls to wounds and not kneeling or whatever, you know Whatever initial aos was Those those were real rules for those that didn't know you could lose a game by kneeling in early aos We went from that To where we are now And it's been a heck of a journey Um, you know, like I look at it now. I look at how big and healthy it is. I look at how Thank you for the lady. That's what you had to shout. Yes. Oh my gosh Um, I look at how many how all the armies and so many people's collections are now usable, right and fun And they have books supporting them and stuff like that Um, yes, we lost some figs along the way. Okay. Like that's always going to happen. That's the nature of this thing Um, yeah as damien as elvi said more factions are between 45 and 55 percent than ever before Right, that's great Um So like all in all this has been uh, I think a pretty great journey and I'm excited to uh I'm excited to keep doing this for another five years and and see where aos goes Uh, because I think we only go to great places My wife's probably not excited for me doing this for five more years, but It's fine, uh, you know, I'm I'm here for as long as I can be sure absolutely. No, I appreciate it Uh, do you have any particular favorite moments tom from over the past? You know years of the show That uh, that you that you want to share anything stand out to your mind Yeah, uh, I remember I remember the the The aos debacle So like in the lead up to what aos might have been We just didn't know we knew something big was coming and then we got the last uh end times book and we're like Well, this is over right Stop hitting your desk But yes, so like what are we gonna do for a show? Right, right, right And there was this like holding pattern for a number of months as we just kind of played around and we're like Yeah Yeah, and then aos dropped Yeah Uh, it was it was a funny time to be sure because yes, we started about six months before actual aos launched, right? Right. Yeah. I mean, I think that Uh, I think if I had to you know, sort of call back to some specific times I particularly enjoyed Obviously the six hour slanesh review is and always will be a high watermark That was that was peak content right there. Um, I loved that But I also like I loved when the first generals handbook dropped and we got our first review of that and got to really Dig in to sort of the points and build armies and really got into that show like that was such that that that summer of like 2016 Was such an exciting time for aos, right? Yep, because of every everything felt like it was just changing and the game was coming into focus Yeah a lot And I I think that was Set a good trend for a lot of you know, where we were going to see things go from there Um, the first battle tomes that started to have real allegiance abilities in them when we started to see what armies Yeah, which which was like silvin out silvin. That was the real big proof of concept for that um for me, uh I like one that stands out starkly to me is our first ring ring and ding ding Okay, which was like it didn't call it that yet. Um, but it was when, um Like aos just came out Yeah, like we were in week two of aos and we're like, what armies do we want to see? Yeah, sure Because that because suddenly the sky was the limit anything was possible Anything was possible And I was like, I let me just pause you real quick. I know what you're gonna say But can I say that the thing I'm most excited for after the interim time four and a half years later is that that's still true Right. Yeah, like that. We're all just still giddy about what the future may hold Did it that it's full of so many unknown unknowns, right? It's ripe with potential. Yeah Yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I agree with that and that's still true. It's the world we live in It's amazing that we don't have real elves yet.  Thank you. No, they're dark elves. They're not real elves That is That's iris or something. Um, no, I was in that first show like somebody brought the time stamp at one point I've lost it now, but they pointed out that like in that first prediction show I called the Marathi led return of of The dark elves having been corrupt or sorry Marathi led return of witch elves having been corrupted by slanesh You really like nailed that one on its head right there. Yeah. Yeah Like it was one of the earliest shows. Yeah, it was good. Yeah, and it was like three years later We actually got that army. Sure. It took a little while but it happened Yeah, uh, no, that was that was great. Uh, I agree. I thought that one was was, um That was a hell of a call. I mean, look, if you'd put that many shots on goal something Totally eventually we're gonna get one right, right exactly just happened to be one of the early ones Hey, that's fine Oh, yeah, I mean the the how many times we've been horrendously wrong that we predicted things and thought for sure We were, uh You know, we that we were like dead on like, oh, we've got this thing We know what this is and then it just jukes left on us and we were completely wrong Being wrong is one of my favorite things about the show Paul like Polynesian fireeater ogres. No one actually believed that that was going to be correct. So I'm zero people Hey, uh, okay. Here's one that we thought might actually happen death cast Yeah, yeah, absolutely. That's a great example like death cast Was was something that like most people were like pretty dead set on no pun intended Um that they thought was going to be the evolution instead of like chaos corrupted death corrupted Um, and we got ocr phone reverse instead. Yeah, sure Yep We got like the mockery version of it. Yes. Yes. Yes, but but yeah, there you go. Um The uh other elements that that you know, obviously the reveal video And the reveal time for the daughters of kane to speak on Still the greatest video that they've ever revealed. I'm still dammit. I'm still dammit Look that high ol video was weak sauce comparatively We weak Okay, I walked it and I was like we don't need to reveal like we don't need a A warhammer special edition reveal thing for this no like we were shot by shotting that, uh That army right because immediately we were like well, we're both getting this This is the most amazing thing we've ever seen Yeah, yep, and I and I did and I played it for a year and I loved them. Yeah, they were great They were great. I I agree so um You know that that's still a an absolute high watermark Uh So I just think that there's been the armies who've seen the new models How many times we've been absolutely blown away by new sculpts studios been killing it Um, it's been amazing to watch completely new armies Come into the the sort of aos world to see that promise but also to see old stuff come back um Yeah, so deep dives as somebody just pointed out deep dives with tyler emerson for like Five hour shows where we go way too deep into a singular subject that tyler gets obsessed with Always a good one. Always a good one. Yep. You could just watch the like the viewer numbers tick off Like as the minute stretched into like comes more and more just for the three of us. Yeah Yes, that we're just now talking and other people just happen to still be watching um Yeah, like I think about all the guests that like we like we don't have around anymore. Oh sure Uh, yeah, absolutely Um, there's a lot of people who just who who aren't unfortunately making content anymore or stuff like that Well, that's okay. People come people go. That's fine. That happens Say lovey right Um, some will eventually come back My goal is to be here when they get back and get back into it and start making content again It will be like welcome back. Yeah, welcome back. We've been here the whole time where you've been That's right. Don't call to come back um Yeah Yeah, just in general. I think you know, we do a lot of army review shows and I certainly like Doing all of those like when we when a book first comes out I think in general I actually like when we revisit armies more Because we just get to like we've seen them actually perform I think it's one of those things where like you you want to we want to do the content that's like Right there so we can give the initial impressions The hot the hottest of hot takes right and all this kind of stuff bring out them scalding takes But I think when we revisit an army later, I always have more fun with those Just because it's really interesting to um To actually like dive in with the benefit of perspective With how they've performed with seeing them on the table with having time to really think on it That's why I always don't try to rush a show right when a book comes out Because I do much prefer to to actually like think on these things to some degree Uh and and try to give like a more reasonable Approach as it were so yeah, there you go That kind of stuff. Sorry. I'm just laughing about acrylic chemist statement of like rip Paul Conte and I'm like he's still making material He's still there. He's just he's just been quiet a little bit lately, but he's around Yeah, like I I have loved our ability like I've loved Being able to participate in the larger community You've gotten to do that a lot more than I have but it's been it's been a joy to get to like events that we haven't been to and meet new people Just being able to plug in and engage with folks who like Who have been along with us in this ride has been a real joy. Yeah Yeah, absolutely absolutely agreed Uh, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I think that's that's it I don't I don't want to spend a long time just with us sitting here reminiscing because it doesn't seem like the most exciting thing Well, I I did not bring this up to you Vince, but let me ask it now. What's next? Yeah, what are we doing next? Sure. What are we looking for for the next, you know, five years? Well, I want to continue doing You know if it ain't broke to one degree, right? Um, so we'll keep doing the same thing try to have guests talk about shows talk about these new Uh armies that kind of stuff Um, we're going to we will be revisiting a lot of armies coming up especially as we're waiting There's a lot of armies. I've wanted to do Uh, just show topics. I want to do a show on allies Um, because I think that there's a lot of interesting stuff in just sort of allies in the way that How often they're used or not kind of allies mercenary thoughts like that type of thing um and Uh, I think one thing I'm going to explore it won't be now it won't be this show But over the next month, uh, I want to I'm going to crack the code on Or try to crack the code on also putting this up as a podcast somewhere. Okay Yeah So, um, you know, so that can be so people if they can't watch on youtube, they'll have a chance to still listen Uh, it's not going to be edited. It's just going to be this so it won't be as fulfilling because The stuff that we're talking about on screen you won't be able to see and things like that but for people out there who want it There you go. Right. Um, so I've got to mess with We're going to evolve. Thanks, Vince. Yeah, I'm going to try Because I I think I've I figured out like technologically the very simple way to do it um That that actually won't like greatly impede the amount of work I need to do for these things because understand like I do have a day job and other things I like to do in my life Like paint and I don't want to get in the way of that For those of you guys that don't know and like I talked about the 260 videos that we've done For a os or for a warhammer weekly Vince has like 760 780 videos That he's done total So only about a third of his videos have been warhammer weekly. He does three videos a week warhammer weekly is one of those three um So like Vince does put out a lot of content. Let's be honest. I try um, yeah So the the goal is to um, but the goal is to put do that podcast thing I think that'll be straightforward. One of the advantages of our new recording method is that I figured out a way to do it actually pretty simple um So so there you go. Yeah, and playing around with some stuff. I actually figured out that it would be pretty easy um But and and that's what I was looking for pretty easy. I'm going to be honest with you here folks Like I just don't have the time to put a bunch into it um But hey easy is easy. So I just kind of figure out a set of a new feed and stuff like that So I'm going to go on record. Uh-huh Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm Um, I made a I made a resolution last year to not buy any new armies. Yeah, sure I'm buying all this year homie. I'm working on two armies right now I'm gonna buy them giants when they come out Like, uh, no, I'm in You are you are buying all the armies um No, so mine is not army related. Uh, mine is content related Um, I I've been talking about this for a while with the wrapping up of my uh, my big project school stuff um, I I am going to attempt to transition into um more regular robust content So I thing on your own I'm going. Yeah, I'm going to go branch out on my own Um and and do some content production regarding Uh Some tactics and some and some meta stuff and in some discussions around that So, um, I think that there are some some uh holes in the market that I think I can contribute to Um, and so, uh, I I want to let people know that that's in the docket and I've already begun drafting some plans for that Um And so we'll hopefully I'll be able to deliver on that to supplement our warhammer weekly content nice, and then uh, the uh, the other thing that uh I would like to do we've talked about this. Um, and I've hinted at this. Um, I really want to thank you For uh, really stealing my thunder mic. Um, I I want to do an event This is and I know I know vince does not want to do this But I I would love for us to to put together an event Um, and I don't know what it's going to look like. I don't know if it's going to be a standard like warhammer weekly open Or if it's going to be something different Uh, we've joked around about doing a doing like an like an invitational style event where like we do both playing and Commentating on the games as the weekend goes on Doing like a four four four person invitational where like two people are playing and people two people are doing commentary And basically we just rotate for the for the entire weekend on that We've talked about something like that. Um, yeah, I don't know what I don't know what it looks like yet But what I want to say is that we uh, like I do want us to to branch into that space somehow Sure Uh, I look forward to you. I look I don't have the soul of a to like So that's fine. I have nothing but the utmost respect watching clint this weekend organized that massive event I was in awe of everything he he did for it, you know, and I'm in awe of every to um Like I'm grateful to them beyond measure for running events Uh that I get to go participate in it's just not that's like the one area where I know Which is not my my thing that being said tom if you do like 90 of the work I'll help you with the last 10. So there you go.  Um, I can do the rest of the work. Sure. Yeah happy to help Uh, so, you know, it's yeah, it's scott's like Yeah, I hear scott saying are you sure? This is something you want to do and yeah, there you go Well, that's what that's what I'm saying. I'm not I'm not I don't want to put together like a 100 person event Like I know better than that. Like that's not what we're talking about here folks. Sorry. Um, yeah It'll it'll be something small and controlled but intentional. Um, and then and whether that's like another a narrative style event Um, or whether whatever that is, um, it's something that I do want to uh to move towards And so um, and so we will hopefully have something that that we are doing where I make vince do all the paint judging and then I'll do Um, the to sure Uh, also, yes, I've seen some good comments in there. Tom and terry Uh, that would be provided and I I also saw a suggestion for your a series called let me be clear With tom every week at 8 o 9 p.m Yeah, that's good I mean all all of those it just writes itself.  So there you go That's the road you're walking down here tom Well, that's what we're teasing right now Sure, sure. I need to get that my printer Um, like printing again for terrain and then and then we'll see where I'm at Yeah, you should just have that running constantly Well, it's broken right now. So I need to fix it and fix it. Why did you break your Why did you break your your your thing right? No, it just I didn't break it it broke itself Things don't break themselves. That's not how things work It needs maintenance and I need to to replace a motor. It'll be fine. I think I've never done it before We'll see Can't you just like 3d print the piece you need to fix it? I mean, I think so um, and I'll figure it out. I just I've had time to invest in it honestly. Yeah, I understand Uh, our goal tom is to get you finished with this and on the other side of it. So that way you're Back to your happy hobby. Yep Then you can be then you can be Uh, dr. Tom was a psychologist on being Erica a fantastic canadian Uh, romantic comedy show Uh, you're no dr. Tom. Let me just say that Uh, but that's okay Uh, you'd need a lot more inspirational quotes that you can readily recall off the top of your head Uh, like you're out of your damn mind. No, like actual quotes real quotes Not your quotes I do I do I do. Yeah, so You guys Well, that sounds like good resolutions for the next couple years. So we'll get on it All right, tom any final thing you want to say before we uh before we call the anniversary spectacular a night Um, we have a wonderful community agreed we do and um, I like we Uh, I don't I can't speak for that. I would not be doing this show if our community wasn't what it is 100 that's true and I um Thank you all is what i'm going to say. Yep. So, uh, I completely agree in all honesty age of sigmar and This community that's around it all of you who are out there all of you on twitter on everything who go to these tournaments who participate however you participate Um, who interact who are paying these models who are participants who are being part of this broader awesome community Is fantastic. Uh, it is a singularly unique and amazing and generous and kind and positive Community that is so rare amongst the greater gaming communities that are out there And I am very lucky to count myself as a part of it Uh, and I mean that 100 uh, honestly So thank you all for coming with us for these last five years I hope you'll continue to stay with us for the next five years Uh, and uh, yeah, this has been absolutely great. If you're watching right now Uh, give it a like hit that little button. It makes thing it makes a difference. So hit that like button and Uh, you know that helps other people find the show Which is ultimately what we want to grow the community even more So hit that subscribe all that kind of stuff most importantly Just tell your friends like when people ask is there a os content That you like just if you can shout out the show or share it with them That's always the most amazing thing you can do So, you know do all that normal stuff. That's that's all of what we how we asked you To support it and continue growing the community. So Hit like sub share all the normal stuff We keep watching and we'll keep making it and we'll keep being here And we look forward to spending another five years with all of you. So thank you very much everybody We certainly appreciate all of you watching and as it's been for the last five years and hopefully as it'll be for another five We'll see you next wednesday