Yo, sleuth all the Mexicans, I saw Blue Beetle. Oh, you like it?  What's it about? The Mexican who got superpowers? Well, what were the superpowers? One of his powers is, whatever weapon he can conceive in his mind, the suit will do. So one of his powers is, you can do it! How's your time, Tommy? Does he have more arms? Yes. Oh, so he can work even more? One man contracts. What? Yo, how do you do this to Mexicans all the time, yo? He's so dispensable. He could have fly, he could have shoot a web.  He could fly, he could fly off a border since you like it. It's Joe, Alex.  But I enjoyed Blue Beetle. I actually want to see where this story goes. Where did it end on this one? Uh... Ship or... This guy. This guy is great. Yep, shawlam and the guy. Sheltz.  In today's episode, it's brought to you by Squarespace. Squarespace is the all-in-one website platform for entrepreneurs to stand out and succeed online, whether you're just starting out. Our managing a growing brand, Squarespace, makes it easy to create a beautiful website and engage your audience and sell anything from products to content to time, okay? All in one place, all on your terms. Head to squarespace.com for a free trial.   Let's start the show. Happy New Year, Hezzy. Happy New Year, my brother. We are back, man, 2024. How was your holidays? I was in the city, man, so I felt like a lot of work. You didn't go to work? No.  No, no, no. You just stayed in the state of the local for renovating an apartment? That's been an absolute abomination. Oh my God. By the way, motherfuckers can't talk about no money. I don't care about your little cars. I don't care about your jewelry.  Here's the thing about this house renovation. It's, yeah, it's pretty much doing everything. And I was telling the boys this, I've never respected Trump more. Talk to me. Than when I found out he didn't pay his contractors. I'm like, yo, you're- I don't see how that's possible. He at least had to put up the front end. He's a hero, this guy. So hold on, who the- there's no contractor that's coming to do work without getting no money. Now you like it though. Now you like it. Now you like it. I can use it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you like it. Uncle T.T., Uncle T.T. figuring something out. What's the loophole? I don't know. We gotta get to the bottom of it, but my man Trump's loophole. What's the loophole?  What's the loophole? We figured it out. What's the loophole? Build the wall so they can't collect. He got a lot of Mexicans trying to get paid for him taco bowls or whatever he had in his Trump Tower. Yo, slew through all the Mexicans. I saw Blue Beetle on my flight back from Dubai.  Oh, you liked it?  That's what I'm talking about. You seen Blue Beetle? Yeah. What's it about? A Mexican turned Blue Beetle. A Mexican who got superpowers. And what are his superpowers? What were his superpowers? I don't know, really. I mean, he was just super strong.   Well, what were the superpowers? Whatever your brain wants to do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead. By the way, in Blue Beetle.  I'll give you one. One of his powers is whatever he can imagine, whatever weapon he can conceive in his mind, the suit will do. So one of his powers is, you can do it. That's what you're trying to tell me. You know what's so funny? His dad gave him that speech. When his dad died, his dad was like in the after round because he was about to die. Oh, they did a Black Panther? Yeah, so he was talking to his pops. And what does that say? You can do it. Basically, that's basically what it is. Are you looking up Blue Beetle's powers because you forgot what they were? No, I was trying to pronounce my guy's name, man. But I can't pronounce it. How do you pronounce that? X-O-L-O. Oh, Zolo, man. Zolo. Now, Zolo's the dude. No. He was in The Crotty Kid, too. Big brilliant that he was listening. I know. I talked to him as the motherfucking, as the guy, bro. Yeah, I met him over the, I met him over the summer. No, no, but shout out to Blue Beetle. But what is the idea with Blue Beetle, like, so? It's a good movie. Does he have more arms? Yes. Oh, so he could work even more? One-man contract. One-man contract. Yo, how do you do this the next year? It's all the time, yo. He's so disbanded. He couldn't fly. He couldn't shoot webs. He could fly. He could give him eight more arms.  He could fly. He could fly.  Come on, DC. DC, have some respect for our people. He could fly. Viva la Raza. He definitely, you know what's so interesting also, though?   You said he took orders? No, I'd say he could fly. He could fly over stuff. Oh, yeah. He did take orders, though. Like, the suit told him what to do. Fair. He literally, he was, no, seriously, he worked for the suit. The suit is a general contractor. So the suit is a general contractor, and you foot a suit on a Mexican, and then they can get 100 more things done. Then they already, these are already the most productive people.  I'm telling you, man, it absolutely is. And it comes to the night. Can it roll a burrito? Listen, does it turn into a Chipotle? They ate mad tacos. George Lopez's, I'm serious. Oh, shout out to the go. George Lopez's truck in the movie is called the taco. I'm not even joking.  That's not that creative, bro. I'm telling you, I enjoyed the movie, though. And I don't enjoy it.   So maybe I just got so much superhero fatigue that I enjoyed this, but I enjoyed Blue Beetle. I actually want to see where this story goes. Where did it end on this one? Oh. Is this a chip or? This guy. What? This guy is great. Did it happen? Did it become legal or?  I don't know. They call it something in the movie. Whatever's giving him these powers is extraterrestrial. Put the white woman calls it an alien. The Joe Joe fence is like, yo, I don't like you. I don't like you calling me that alien.  That word hurts. That word, don't call my son an alien. Oh, no, they got the abuela there, too, with the braids in. They got the mamacoco.  Tell me how you didn't pay the contract, man. Say again? Tell me how you didn't pay the contract. I paid them tons. They keeps on getting paid. Nothing getting done. But how did Trump not pay him? Because Trump is probably one of the greatest Americans in history when I found that out. Chris, tell me more, man. Does somebody know this story? What's the point? He knows he's on to something. I know he knows. He's on to something. Talk to us, Chris. What they do is they say, hey, we have a job.  But you're going to do this job for us. You're going to be known as someone who works for the Trump Organization. It's going to open up your entire career, coming in and do it. And then halfway through the job, they don't pay them. And they dare the people to go to court. And Trump has lawyers on retainer. And it's always cheaper for him to fight it in court. And then the people give up. And then he just brings in another contractor and runs the same thing. And they finish the job. And then he doesn't pay that guy either. That's what they do with all their businesses. Legend. Legend. Legend. Why go through all that, though? Why not just pay these motherfuckers? If they're working on buildings, and then you don't have to pay none of them, that's. Who are these motherfuckers that would do all of this work and not get paid? Contractors need shout-outs?  You know what I mean? I get a shout-out on the podcast.  Like, obviously, I want everybody to get paid. But I think a lot of times it happens with contractors. You don't want to save money. There's nothing wrong with what you said. But you want to save money. No, we do. We do. Renovations are a lot. I had a meeting. I think I might have said this on the podcast. I don't know. My dude was an agent. I was with my agents in Atlanta. And they had another agent there who represents this NFL player.  When you talk to me about paying home renovations, that's when you know somebody getting money. Home renovations cost a raise. I mean, it's demoralizing to keep spending money. And then you walk in your home and nothing changes. I know. It's like, what were we spending money on? I say all the time. I tell my wife all the time, why didn't we just buy a more modern house? Bro, this is the thing. Let me tell you why. Why buy a house just a gut? Because we think that we're smarter than everybody. We're like, yo, we're going to buy this cheap house. And then we're going to put a million dollars into it. And it's going to be worth twice as much.  Like, we're the only ones in history that think we can renovate a place, and it's worth twice as much. Yeah, Basit, to your point, what you just said, I didn't have a number in mind.   Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? What are we making this into?  Nah, I get it now. I get it now. It is what it is. Loot there, everybody doing home renovations. What else did we miss? What else did you do over the holidays? You went to Africa, bro. I mean, like, let's talk about Africa. You went to another part of Africa. This is, yeah, last year I was in Ghana for New Year's Eve. This year I went to Zanzibar. Now, Zanzibar is off the coast of Tanzania. I thought it was the same thing. Tanzania, Zanzibar, but I guess not. I mean, it's kind of the same thing. Well, the island of Zanzibar is off the coast of Tanzania. I don't know if it's the same country. I had a ball, man. It's a beautiful feeling. There is just something.   Is that what you're saying? Just this guy. Like, you like to see him working. No, no, no. It's just like there is a certain weight that you have when you're black in America, whether it's actually a reality or it's just something in your mind.  When you and when you in Africa, when I was in Ghana, I definitely didn't feel it. When I was in Zanzibar, I definitely didn't feel it. The only thing that's interesting to me about Zanzibar is everybody there is like European, like the people that go there for like tourism to visit. It's like they're European. They're like, you know, people from Russia, people from Italy, people from different parts of Europe. Right? And it's like, they know about that beauty, but we don't, you know what I'm saying? Like they're over there living it up in Zanzibar and joining it. Like I love it. It's a spice island, mad fresh fruits, mad fresh vegetables, the beach is beautiful. Like we, I thoroughly enjoy it. Did you go back? Yes. I mean, the biggest thing is just to travel. I think that's the reason why a lot of times it's hard for Americans. Cause like, yeah, there's so much beauty out there, but 19 hours. Fam. Straight up. 19 hours on a plane is crazy. Now I'm the type of person. I enjoy the ride though. I enjoy the 15 hour plane ride from fucking, because we were from New York to Dubai, then Dubai to Zanzibar. So New York to Dubai is 15. Dubai to Zanzibar is like five. You know what I mean? I enjoy the plane ride though. Like I'm the guy that sits up there, catches up on movies. I would never go to the theater to see. You know, I'm writing, I'm reading, I'm off social media. You time. Yeah, I enjoy it. You know what I mean? Like, you've flown Emirates before. Yeah. Emirates is a great airline. You get to walk around. You get the shower one? Do you have a shower? No, that's too much money. See, it's you wild. You can't have renovations and first class on goddamn Emirates. You wild. You know what I mean?  Plus I'm traveling with seven people. What?  You brought your wife? This guy's crazy.  What are you talking about? The better know, like, look. This is what it could be. It could be, it could be three more.   I could have two other women talking back to me too. Wait your turn. Okay? Y'all are crazy. No, for real. You go from Dubai where you're allowed to have more than one wife. Three wives, bro. In Muslim countries it works. But imagine three women not giving you half to her. In Muslim countries it works. Nah, nah, nah. Come on, come on. What are we talking about? Imagine three women being too tired. Yo, yo, show them. Got the whole point of having other wives though. What do you mean? Wouldn't that be the whole point? Yeah, but what if they start ganging up on you? Nah, it don't work like that. You keep adding wives. You keep adding wives. You keep adding, you keep motherfucking adding wives. That just seems like torture, bro. Three wives. You say that until you live in that life. Three wives? I'm not knocking nobody.  Typhoon, lagoon. Nah, you can't all have the same period. They sync up. That's what women do. It's your wives though. Period don't stop number the sentence. I'm not talking about sex during the period. I'm talking about just a conversation. Oh, you mean everybody being upset at it? Is that true? What do you mean is that true? Are women being angry when they period long? Well, maybe if you let your wife not be pregnant one year, you'll find out. It's got found a way around the system. The women getting angry when they, I mean, I see that stereotype all the time. I don't know if that's really true. I want to say it's something about being angry. We do get more sensitive for me. So when sometimes you have an attitude with us here, do you think it's because of that? Most of the time it's a week before, though. Yeah, that's premenstrual syndrome. PMS. Yeah, so the week before, if you sometimes come in here and you have an attitude and you're just being mean to everybody and rude, you don't even say hello. Like, do you think that has to do with that? No, not really. What does it have to do with that? I'm just saying we're just more sensitive around that time. That's all. But I might be having a bad day. And also, we were going to talk about earlier. What? You walked in, turned your back on me. I didn't see you. You lost weight. I won't leave you alone. I'm not doing that. What are you talking about? She lost weight. Usually, when I walk in the room, it's slanted. And the room was completely even this time, so I didn't even think that she was there. I think you lost weight. And you angered me. I'm going to start this really in the new year. In the new year? How can I never win? How can I never win? How can I never win? How can I never win? How can I never win, yo? I said you lost weight. This goes out your hand. I didn't say nothing. I didn't hear what you said. You didn't say anything. What did you say? Taylor, you're sitting right here. You know I didn't say nothing. You are crazy. Taylor's crazy.  I've been sitting here the whole time. I said you look like you lost weight. Y'all want to go over some stuff? Taylor, they're all fine. Taylor. I know they are. It's fine. How am I lying? How am I lying? That's crazy, yo. It's fine. By the way, though? Look. What? What are you going to say? Everybody should go to Africa. I'm going this year. I love it. I went to Africa. Africa was amazing. It's a beautiful place. And by the way, I went to go look the property in Zanzibar 2. You went to look the property. You goddamn right. And by the way, it's very affordable. I'm talking about this in general. Zanzibar is very affordable. You go to dinner with seven people. It's $300. I mean, yeah, but you have children. What are they eating? They're not drinking. No, no, no, no. Not my children. Do you have expensive pallet kids? What else do they know? Do they have caviar? They have an oyster? They have stuff like that. Go, go, go, go. No, you were onto something. No, I'm kidding. My eight-year-old is really into video games. I let her play Minecraft. I let her watch the videos on YouTube to learn how to play Minecraft. And what I forget is it's actually motherfuckers playing and talking.   I'm listening to her and she's like, Yeah, broke boy. No, no, no, no, no, no.  And she's like, yeah, such as such on YouTube, she named a person like such as such on YouTube called somebody a broke boy. And she thinks that's so funny. It is funny. She don't know what that means really. Which makes it funny. You know what I'm saying? Imagine how funny it's going to be when she knows. Like half of the funny she don't even realize.   Why did he try to... Because every time I'm nice to you... Yo, it's 2024. You don't have no new resolution. No two years resolution, yo. Like stop lying. How about that one for 2024? Yo, we're going to talk about what just happened to you.  Man, I was on a plane all day. I just got here.  That's dedication, man. What time is it now? 8 o'clock? That's dedication, 6. 6. What did you do for the new years, Taylor? Um, I actually went to go see my nieces. And I shot it done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You saw your aunties? What about your... You saw some of your aunties?  I forgot. I told y'all I was tied to what I told you. Tell me about some of your aunties. Relax. What's up with your aunties? What's up with your aunties? What's up with your aunties? What's up with your aunties? What's up with your aunties? Basically, they was asking about something like, tell Charlemagne... That your mama ain't the only one with good pie.  No way. Oh, wow. There's competition. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's competition. Your mom better act right. With all due respect, I'm just saying, your mom better act right. For some extra sweetener in that pot. Because she got some competition. Yo. Can we... Can we do the... Do this pie, Casely. I didn't reply back. I just gave it a heart emoji. Now you do the heart. You know how when you like the thing. Why do you think that will bother me? No. I didn't want to keep talking to you. Did you tell your aunties?  Uh-uh. Why don't we have a message for the aunties right now? Yeah, aunties, listen. Anytime y'all want to come give me some of that good pie. I don't know if your pie's better than Taylor's mom's pie. Okay, the bar set pretty high. But I'm down to do a little sample test. You know what I'm saying? Just came back from a Muslim country where I'm allowed to have more than one wife. Pull up on me, you know? So what are we talking about now? What is that to do with anything? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing to talk about pie. Okay, it's just because you put... Nothing, nothing I say in this whole episode. Oh, all right. Yo, Jeffrey Epstein's list is coming. You want it? It's not coming, bro. Am I on it? So if I was going, I wouldn't be complaining about this renovation. Yo, that's how... You know the funny part about Jeffrey Epstein's list?  I know, man. They timed it perfectly. Because you know why nobody...  There ain't nobody in the world why I'm digging that gonna be on there. Okay?  Yo, would you be as upset as Jimmy Kimmel? Yes. Why? Because you know what Aaron... I started to say Aaron McGruta. Aaron, you know what Aaron... Who's the Aaron McGruta? My guy. You know what Aaron Rodgers is implying by saying this? Like, why would Aaron Rodgers... Let me hear it. Let's listen to this clip, Taylor. Why would Aaron Rodgers even get on here and say this shit? Jimmy Kimmel. I'm really hoping that doesn't... Please. All right. All right. Obviously, a clip from this particular program was run on Jimmy Kimmel's show whenever Aaron brought up the list and then Jimmy mocked him for it.  What do you say? I'm waiting to celebrate something. Oh, yeah. He's been waiting for it. That's the one. Okay, so hold on. So, Jimmy... I even know this part of the context. So, Jimmy made fun of Aaron on his show for bringing up the list. What was the context of bringing up the list? I didn't see that. Can we... I didn't see that. Let's find that. Let me read what Jimmy Kimmel said.  Now, I'm down with him suing. No, that's so... Not if you started. I gotta see what... Also, Jimmy makes fun of people on his show all the time. He says things that are not true about people ingest on his show all the time. That is what being a comedian is.  And the reason he said he's on that list is because Jimmy was so defensive about the list in the first place if we get that clear. I gotta see... I need more content. I gotta see what Jimmy said. Listen, I'm all for suing people in 2012. Oh, my God. And I'm gonna tell you what... Not for jokes, bro. We're not suing for jokes, man. No. And you can't... Jimmy's a comedian. And see, Aaron Rodgers is not a comedian. And the status on Pat McAfee's show, Pat McAfee's not a comedian, nobody's gonna take it as a joke. For him to say, yo, I'm celebrating... When this list comes out, I'm gonna celebrate.  Like, nah. I need to see the first context. Because if you started this, don't cry when he finishes it. Now, if he said something about Aaron being on the list, fair game. What if he said Aaron's a wacko for bringing up the list? And what if he's belittling the list? That's not... I don't think that's worth him saying he possibly is on this. What do you always say? Like, free him of speech, but you're not free about how people react. Not free about how people react. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just saying, like, it's... Nah, bro. Let's see. Let me see it. Let me see it. You want to just give it to us and you can discern it later? Pat McAfee already apologized. Pat McAfee. It's the New York Times CNN. Pat McAfee apologized over rolling Aaron Rodgers, Jimmy Kimmel. Because he knows that's an easy lawsuit.  Oh, and it was on ESPN? Yeah, Pat McAfee showed that. Shit. I mean, I know that, but I thought that was just a podcast. I know that's actually from the TV show. Do you have the... What's it called, clip? I said clip. No, just give it to me.  I found it. Don't play with me about it. But about that? This one right here. That's a tough one, man.  Don't play with me about it. Let me see. Pat McAfee show. Oh, God, that's it. Needless to say, all this UFO talk has the tinfoil hatters going wild, including Green Bay whack packer Aaron Rodgers, who offered this hot take on the Pat McAfee show. I believe that this has been going on for a long time. Interesting timing on everything. There are other things going on in the world. Did you hear about the Epstein client list about to be released, too? What's that? What are you talking about? There's some files that have some names on it. They might be getting released pretty soon. Oh. Oh. Might be time to revisit that concussion protocol, Aaron. Needless to say, all this... I don't get it. What Jimmy is saying is, Aaron is going, they're going to release some names on the list. And what Jimmy is saying is that we shouldn't care about the list, apparently. He's belittling the fact that Aaron's like, there's going to release the list. He's saying that he's a tinfoil hat whack packer because he's curious about the names on the most notorious pedophile in history's list. Yeah, I don't understand that because when the list comes out, I'm sure Jimmy Kimmel's writers are going to be all over it. You know what I'm saying? Like, if the list comes out this week, he's going to have a million jokes. So the dismiss it like that is kind of screened. So the fact that he's dismissing it, and then Aaron goes, which I think makes a lot of sense, you made fun of me, called me a tinfoil hat whack packer, said that I need to get into concussion protocol because I'm curious about a list of names attached to the most notorious pedophile in history. If you were somebody that would dismiss that, maybe it's not the craziest leap to go, you're jokingly go, your name might be on the list. It's not an insane leap to say that. Thank you. If I was like, I hope they don't release that list.  Why would you even believe in something like that?  I'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on with you? As a joke. And then for Jimmy to be serious about it, you started this. You called him the whack packer. You called him the concussed dude. You called him someone who's insane for believing or having curiosity in this.  No way. You know why I say it's okay for Jimmy to do that because we live in an airman. I've been saying this for years. Nobody cares about the truth when the lies more entertaining. And did Aaron Rodgers doing that? Because I've seen a million fd lists already. I don't know what's real and what's not real. Tell Jimmy not to talk then.  If we're joking around and saying things about each other. Don't bring my name. Don't bring my name.  Some people go low.  You can joke around about me. I'm joking around about you. Yeah. I thought Aaron's joke was like innocuous. It was a jab. Let me hear it again. Let me hear it again. Go to Aaron's joke. It don't sound like a joke to me. Yeah. He kind of like sublimin it. Did Jimmy Kimmel's joke? No, Aaron's joke. Aaron's team list that came out. Feels like. Feels like. That's supposed to be coming out soon. That's supposed to be coming out soon. Look at this guy. He's been waiting in this wine cellar. Yeah. He's been waiting in this wine cellar for this thing. A lot of people including Jimmy Kimmel are really hoping that doesn't come out. Now, he goes to a lot of people including Jimmy that really hopes it doesn't come out. It doesn't mean that Jimmy Kimmel's on it, but the fact that he was dismissing it before, Jimmy's leaping here. Jimmy is dismissing it maybe. The allegation could be he's protecting people that are on the list. No, I think I got it now. Go. I don't think you, we're just throwing out theories, so it don't matter. Yeah. People didn't believe in an Epstein list. I think Jimmy thought that was just a crazy internet conspiracy theory. He's got a big idea. So when he first heard Aaron bring it up, he was like, ah, you know. But there's always been a list because they were referring to people on the list as John Doe 36 or John Doe. But no, I've seen lists that got names on it. Like I've seen lists that got actual celebrities and people who have been running with that forever. So I think what Aaron was saying just now was, Jimmy is hoping this list doesn't come out. Here's the thing. Because it'll prove that Jimmy was wrong. Because if Jimmy didn't believe in the list to begin with and he was just dismissing it as a conspiracy. Even better. Perfect. So even more innocent. So the fact that he jumps to this conclusion that Aaron is saying that he's on the list and he's one of these pedophiles. You put my family in danger.  Your family's in danger. You live in a gated community. You walk around with security. How many people outside of Epstein have been touched because of their association? Prince Andrew walking around. Bill Gates walking around. Touch Epstein. Himself. Exactly. So nobody else has masturbation. What happened? What happened? That's dangerous. That's all I'm trying to say. Like why are you blowing this up? Why are you being so sensitive about this? You make fun of a dude.  And now you want to bring in the justice system?  You know what I think happened? You know what I think? He's insinuating that Jimmy doesn't want the list to come out. I didn't take that as an insinuation. That's how I took it. If you say this person doesn't want the list to come out, why would that person not want it? Because he's on it. I thought it as an insinuation until I heard Jimmy's clip. When I hear Jimmy's clip, I hear somebody who don't believe in the Epstein conspiracy theory list. That's fair.  But now that it's actually about to come out, like that's how I'm going to feel when the UFOs arrive.  You know what I'm saying?  We debate about this all the time. Now, when the UFOs finally get here.   You know what I mean?  Yes. Well, maybe.  Yes. I'm going to tell you what else could have happened here. But there's a comedian, bro. Jimmy's a comedian. Like, he had funny sketches back in the day. Offensive sketches. Funny. Just sketches by today's standards. Now, when somebody made a joke about him, that was a retort of reaction.   I don't think that's a reply to a joke. I think Jimmy Kimmel was replying to his mentions. Meaning.  Meaning other people saw what Aaron said and started tweeting Jimmy like, yo, you saw Aaron say that you motherfucking might be on Epstein's list, yada, yada, yada. And he replied to that. Which so many people do, by the way, now. This is the cost of dismissing the associates of a known rapist.  Wouldn't you? I agree with you. I think something, I think one thing about this Epstein list though, at least the ones that they had out last year, it was so many celebrity names on these hoax lists. So here's the thing. The real list, there are names that are on it and the names that are on it are there. Like Bill Clinton, for example, wants his name on it because it vindicates him. Why? Because the list isn't just, hey, here are the people that went to the island. The list is the people. People leave the plane. And he could have flown on the plane prior to any conviction for Epstein. I think in Clinton's circumstances, they've never even flew to the island allegedly. They were flying in Africa or something like that. So there are people that are on the list. RFK Jr. was on the plane. Like he even came out and saw it. So there are people on the list. Trump is on the list? Trump is on the list. So it's like there are people that are on the list, but they are vindicated by the circumstances of which they flew on that plane. Well, Trump won't be. I seen Trump do interviews when he was talking about how him parties used to be lit. Crazy. And he was literally, literally said verbatim, you know, how young the girls were. But he also... You ever heard those interviews with Chris? But you've also heard him call them out. Allegedly. Because I don't know if he really said that. He did say that. No, he also called them out.  He did? Yeah. I mean, he did. No party with me. And they say my party was weird, bro. Hey, this guy... I love this one. Chris is the best for his people, son. I like that.  You know what I mean? What are you quiet about, yo? About that man in Bali. He real quiet. Man in Bali. You know who's in Bali? Oh. Yeah, right?  He heard all that. Oh, later. Later, he's loud. Later. You know, he did the same energy, Chris. He did the same energy, Chris. He was friends with Trump. Say what? How do you think I met Trump? What I'm saying is keep the same energy with the man in Bali that you do with Trump. You're quick to be like, yo, Trump knew him. Trump was doing all that. Your man got more allegations than Trump. Yeah, he probably didn't get invited. Who? Bali. Who Trump didn't get invited? Nah, nah, nah. He don't got more allegations than Trump. Nah, he don't. Come on, son. He don't. He don't got more. Son, he lives in Bali. Not be as he wants to. Nah, nah. He was going to Bali before that. He got a resort in Bali. No, no, no. He was going there. Now he doesn't come back. He built a resort in Bali. Let nature sort out everything. Let God do what he going to do. Tell Jimmy Kimmel not to care anymore. I can't tell him not to care about that. If he took it in that way, I just don't know why he reacted to what Aaron Rodgers said in that way, because I don't hear it now. Now that I saw the context with what Jimmy said and I hear what Aaron said, I don't take it as he's saying, yo, Jimmy is on the list. I just take it as he's saying Jimmy's hoping the list don't come out. But I just think Jimmy wants to be right.   That's right.  I pivot. Yeah. I never said that.  Didn't I tell you that from the beginning?  Why would I do that? Do what?  Because nobody wants to be wrong. Do you realize we live in an era right now where people get on social media? COVID breaks out? Everybody's a motherfucking scientist. Palestine is real happening. Everybody's a geopolitical expert.   Nobody just wants to say, I don't know. And we live in this era where people just give opinions and for whatever reason people just run with opinions as facts or maybe that's just our mind state that we think people are running with things as facts. Maybe people just run in headlines. If I say something on this podcast, you say something on this podcast and somebody turns it into a headline, that don't mean it's a factual statement. That just means somebody's running with what we said on this podcast. Exactly. Facts can also be misleading. By the way, who said this is a fact?   I gave my opinion, people ran with it. You give your opinion, people ran with it. Maybe it's our fault for looking at these headlines and taking it for more than what it is, other than a statement. Yeah. But I think it's because of the social media engagement and the fact that people are able to respond to what folks say that it turns a lot of these things into bigger conversations that don't need to be, man.   Dear asshole, for the record, I have not met, flown with, visited or contact whatsoever.  I mean, I'm not going to lie that it's a little crazy.  We did blackface sketches. He's now tweeting, dear asshole, for the record, I have not met, flown with, visited or had any contact whatsoever. I'm saying in order to find my name on any list other than the clearly phony nonsense that soft brain wackos like yourself can't seem to distinguish from reality. He's saying the list don't exist. But by the way, that could be something. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Other than the phony nonsense soft brain. But that's my point. Remember I was talking about all of the fake lists that were out last year. So he thinks that it's the fake list. He might have really been all one. Yeah.  I've seen some names that's on the list.  Like that. But it's only because social media is having this. Man, it's something about social media and celebrities now.  Wait, what are you saying? Just see what comes out. Everybody's doing it. Like who? What you mean? Like who? What you mean is for a celebrity? Yeah. Everybody gets a turn. That's why I keep trying to tell motherfuckers. Like, bruh, everybody going to get a turn on that goddamn whipping pose at some point. But I don't care if you black, white, if you are rich, if you got some type of fame, you got some type of celebrity, motherfuckers really cannot wait to tear you down at some point. Oh, that's true. And it's been like this since the beginning of time. It's nothing new.  You know, it's just that now it's just really, really, really more accessible to app somebody and get them to respond. I was having a conversation with, because I hated what you niggas did to TD Jakes over the holidays. Like y'all niggas, that's, I'm not going to lie, man. That's what made me say, man, y'all can have the worldwide nigga net. Okay? Worldwide. If you want to be the king of the worldwide nigga net, congratulations. What is that?  What is that? The internet. Oh. For niggas. Yeah, yeah. There's a search. There's a black Twitter. Yeah.   Yeah, that's ridiculous. Like there's no way.  They want to believe it. The story didn't make any sense. Did you hear the story?  I didn't know all the details about it. Somebody got on tiktok and said, Cassie gave her phone to the FBI. Yeah. And then they got, she gave Kim Porter's burner phone to the FBI.   How do people, what makes people even want to believe that? You think this is a, and this is all allegedly, do you think this is a Diddy team misinformation campaign? No. I think that would work.  Once the people find out that they're fake, now they can't believe anything around the case and they lose interest because they don't know what is fact and fiction. This is a common technique that's used. That would be a great technique, man. But man, to me, that goes into another point that I've been thinking about over the holidays. How motherfuckers really care about the court of public opinion more than they care about the court of law. Sometimes the court of public opinion is what decides. It really doesn't, man. And the reason I say it really doesn't is because if you are facing criminal charges or you're being accused of criminal acts, or if you're facing some type of civil charges rooted in criminal acts, these motherfuckers in the court of public opinion can't save you? No. In no way, shape or form. No, but they can't sway the jury. They can sway public perception and with that swaying of public perception, there might be an easier conviction. The reason I say I disagree with that is because these juries. Now, I have thought to myself, because they always tell juries, don't watch the news, don't do this, don't do that. It's impossible to do nowadays, right? But one thing I will say about juries, juries are privy to way more evidence than motherfuckers on social media. That's true. And that's what happened in the Tory Lane's Megan Thee Stallion case. Anybody who was actually following that case and looking at what they were being presented in court, you're like, there's no way Tory's gonna beat this. And I didn't understand why, you know, Tory or his team was doing all of that on social media knowing what he was facing in court. The court of public opinion can't do anything for you.  Who are you trying to prove this to? These people online, by the way, you're never gonna change their mind.   Nobody cares about the truth when the lie is more entertaining.  So who are you trying to explain to? Well, that's the thing. It's like, do you try to take away a thing that they would use to ride against you? So yeah, the people that don't like you, the people that are bitter, the people that resent you are going to believe anything negative about you because they want to, right? It makes them feel better about themselves. But do you try to remove the amount of things that they can't believe that are negative about you if they are fake? No, because all they're gonna do is take what you said on your live stream or your Instagram Live and use it against you. That's the era we're in.  They're gonna pull up old tweets. They're gonna pull up anything that can build a case against you. And as soon as you get on Instagram Live explaining yourself, they're gonna say, oh, that person's just trying to get in front of it. Oh, you know, that person is just trying to change the narrative. It's like, man, let these motherfuckers think whatever.  Like, who cares? The only people that you should be trying to convince is that court, the court of law. I agree with you, but for TD Jakes, I feel like he needed to speak out because that one was running wild and people will believe in that.   This is a man that's been doing this work for 50 years. Yeah, but we think we know everybody until an allegation comes out.  That's not even an allegation.  What'd they say about him? Exactly what I just said. It was literally with a random person on TikTok. Said what, though? That she got... I don't know if she said she had inside sources, but she said that Cassie gave her phone to the FBI and then gave Kim Porter's burner phone to the FBI. And there was some type of e-mails and all kind of other stuff saying Bishop TD Jakes and Diddy and all of them participate in orgies with little boys.   Like, why? And look at that headline right there. What does it say? Here's why black internet is dragging TD Jakes despite his denials of salacious rumors.  Remember back in the day when celebrities... You remember how it'd be on the front page of the National Enquirer, such as Pregnant by Sasquash? Yeah.  Yeah.   Why? I mean, I think when he responded, it kind of killed the noise. No, he made the story bigger. But it inflated it and then killed it. Yeah.  But if he doesn't say anything at all, like for example, the NBA player Josh Giddy who was like accused of having sex with that girl who was underage or whatever like that.  The Gidler. Come on, man. Wow, bro.  Why? God damn, bro. If you didn't, you would just say it. You wouldn't do it. I'm like, I never slept with no little kid. They're like, yo, he's like, I don't want to talk about that. I can't talk about that right now. Now, I don't know. Is it a criminal case? No, I don't know if it was illegal based on the age of consent in the state or something like that. But it was still like, they're asking, did you sleep with this girl? And he's going, I don't want to talk about that right now. I'm not going to talk about this at this moment, right? So it's like, well, if you didn't, you would just say, no, this is ridiculous because it's the easiest answer ever. Now, I understand what you're saying about like inflating things, but I think when there are fake rumors about you out there that are potentially hurting you, I don't think this hurts T.D. Jakes, but if they were and you have the ability to address them and cut them out, I think.  No, that's true. That's true. And don't get me wrong. You don't do it to every single thing, but like, for example, with the Louis C.K. thing is a perfect example. Louis C.K. came out and apologized. He wrote an apology. Now, his apology didn't acknowledge what he was accused for and what people thought he did. But he got accused by multiple women, right?  People thought that he was out there ripping, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was not in a power position. Exactly. They thought a complete different thing. So when he put out an apology, all those people, they knew nothing about the case, right? Thought he was apologizing for what they thought he did, not what actually happened. Yes.  No, 100% no. A lot of people ask me, no, none of this happened.  The fact that he even acknowledged it with an apology. But think about that, though, right? So for the people who thought Louis C.K. was ripping people. Which he was not. Which he wasn't.  With consent. Whatever it was.  You don't think he was doing more? It's a little... I'm not apologizing. I'm just going, yo, I asked them, they said I could. What more do you want me to do? Oh, so he explained the story, basically. No, that's what he should have done. Is that what he did? No, his apology is like, I understand that there was a power dynamic and certain one of these things. And it just sounds like... Oh, so he's not aware. It sounds like he's confirming. He's not aware of what people were thinking. He might have been detached from that. I'm not doing it, yo. I'm telling you. You got to let people think whatever nowadays.   I think you do, Gage. That's very true. I think you do.   Not acknowledging none of that dumbness, man. But also, that's not that bad. Like, T.D. Jakes getting his cheeks clubbed would be way worse than Jay-Z being in the Illuminati, right? That's the worst part.  That's a big bottom. Come on, man. That's a hippo bottom. Don't do him like that, yo. At least a power bottom.  Not a soft bottom.   I said, yo, I said, God, what's up, man? Now it's time. Let's go. I said, God, it is time for the motherfucking rapture.  What we got to do? I'll start building the arc right now. Y'all be out here with a tinfoil hat on, building the arc. Y'all be like, man, Charlemagne done lost it.   Do you think TD Jakes would show up? Show up to what? To the arc, and he'd be on your arc. With TD Jakes? What? When he go on your arc, you need two of each species, right? Man, shut up, man. What animal? If TD Jakes was an animal, what animal would he be? What? He would be a hippopotamus. I love this TD Jakes. I ride with this TD Jakes, man. That man has given us so much. Yeah, you do ride him. He does. And you know what else is crazy? You know what else is crazy? They announced that, hold on, hold on.  What you mean, free him?   No, I mean that in a good way. Free him. You see what I'm saying? Free him from the rumors, right? Free him from the rumors, bro.  Now, you're not a bottom. You're not a top. You're at Bishop TD Jakes. He's working on one of the greatest bishops alive right now. Yeah. Without question. He's working on projects in Miami and Atlanta that are based on a residential community built in Dallas. So he's building affordable apartments in all of those regions. He's with a Miami real estate developer, New Urban Development.   My whole point is, when did we start giving random people on TikTok that kind of power? I don't think we get random people. Here we give, like you said, like if people are jealous, people are envious. And people like a good story. Yes. And we want to see the righteous fall.   For how long? For 16 years. And? I've been making up stories, planting them. You know what I'm saying?  And? They got it too easy. You know what I'm saying?  All right. I had stories that would go all around the town.  Listen, I had stories that would go all around the town that they would come back to me. Like what?  Like what? I'd be like, yo, did you hear about such a subject?  I told you that story, right? When I got the email that said I had chlamydia or something like that. No. You got the emails. Like, yo, this is anonymous email or anonymous call. There's a company that will notify you that a partner you're with with had a chlamydia anonymously and you have chlamydia, so you should go get that taken care of or something like that.  I don't even know if I should tell my parents.  I call my best friend. I go, Jamil, yo, bro, I got chlamydia, man.   I don't even know what to do. I'm freaking out. And he goes, oh yeah, I sent that in with your name. What?  Man, that's funny.  I forgot I had chlamydia. Good joke. I'm walking around for three days.  You got to do it. That's what I like to do. You say it and walk away. That's what you do.  All I'm simply saying is these motherfuckers here got it too easy, yo.   And we live in an era right now. It's not okay that it's too easy. Is that your point? Yeah, I think that's what you say. What you're saying is if it was harder, it'd be all right. No, no, no, no. It shouldn't be that, no. It shouldn't be that easy to number one lie.  Any more. And it shouldn't be that easy for people just to grasp it and run with it. But I'm telling you the only reason they grasping it and running with it is because they already don't like these people in the first place. Of course, yes. Motherfuckers is miserable. They always looked at certain people and been like, ah, man, I don't like what that person over there doing. They're getting too much money. Are they getting too much?   You know how you know what you said is exactly true?     Yo, who? Yo, son, who had to tell him? Because I don't know if he's on TikTok like that, right? So who had to? He got a flock. I'm just saying, but who in the flock raised their hand and was like, yo. I'll say this. I'll say this. How you think they told him? I don't know. Whoever told him to respond? Excuse me, Mr. Jakes. Whoever told him to respond, I'll put that person on probation or something. Because that was not a guy. I don't think he should have said nothing. How would you approach him if you saw this rumor gaining steam online?  It's nothing to say. No, but that's your boy. Everybody's saying that he's getting his, you know. If he said something to me about it, I look at the bishop and I said, Bishop, don't worry about what's happening on the worldwide nigga net. Okay.   You can have it. Don't mention my name in those circles.  Y'all go be miserable by your goddamn selves, man. For example, your boy, right? Who? No, I'm just saying your leader. Who? T.J. He's not my leader. Not your leader. I'm saying if you're in the flock, hypothetically, you're in the flock. And there is a vicious rumor that your leader is getting his balloon knot stretched on a regular basis. What do you do? More than likely. I don't know if this happened, but more than likely, I'm sure people from his congregation got online to defend him. But do you tell him? I'm sure somebody had to say something to him because if he's trending. Then they're going to know. Yes. Somebody comes to you and says, yo, you're trending online. Why am I trending online? Because they say you doing X, Y, and Z. It's like, come on, bro. Yeah. You know?  Play a statement. Tell them what he responded with in church on that Sunday.  He's right. Truth is more important or something. He's right. He's right there. Some of you logged in or come in out of concern.   I wouldn't give him that. I wouldn't get him to use his sacred day and the sacred pulpit to address a lie when I have a chance to preach a truth. Oh, Christmas. Damn. Oh, Christmas, man. I'll stand straight up, head up, back straight, and preach an adulterated, infallible word of God.  Because that is what the pulpit is for. He didn't talk about the baby in the manger. You don't want to talk about the bottom in the manger.  All you do is just hit the button.  Trick Trick said this was years ago. Trick Trick looked at his phone and Trick Trick said, as long as I turn this motherfucker off. Nothing's happening.   Let them have it, man, because nobody cares about the truth. When the lies more entertaining. If that's what motherfuckers need to do to be entertained all day long, let them go do it.  There's always going to be rumors. There's always going to be lies. There's always going to be in the window.  It will all come out. If it is. And that's when y'all can have y'all fun.  I agree. Let's pay some bills, Taylor. Let's pay some bills, Taylor. And then we need to know the memes of the month. I like that. I like that he added his back straight up. Damn right. Let y'all know. Damn right.    Who thinks that? Why? I was thinking that. That's what I'm saying. That's how a story keeps going. That's how a story keeps going.  He keeps his back straight up. He's saying none of them dudes could bend his back. Man. None of them dudes get him to arch these niggas so much.  You think you got a good arch? Or you think you're more of a turtle shell?  Yeah. I don't know. I don't think I can handle that at my old age. So you would curl up? Oh, yeah.  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can't throw it back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Throw it back.   From Russell. Yeah. Oh, Charlotte, don't do that. Don't do that. Yo, Russell need a bra.  Yo, don't Russell need a bra? I'm tired of seeing his saggy tits in his shirts, brother. Man, he's 77 years old. Yeah, but put a bra. Listen, prize picks. Yes, sir.  I've had winning up to 25 times my money this football season and now I can play during basketball season two. 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That's what I was just saying. But look at the headline. Matter of fact, all the people whose names you'll see there have chosen not to have their name redacted. So what it means is the names that you read are probably the ones that are proven innocent. Internet isn't that smart. Oh, it's called the Internet. I thought you were saying none. The nigger net is not. Christ, that just hit. That's smart. With the R, it was that strong. But it's not. I know. Nobody's going to see this fine print. Inclusion in the newly unredacted documents is not an indication of wrongdoing our lawbreaking.  Not realizing that some of the people on there are actual victims. Watch. Nobody is going to sit back and be like, well, you know, just because they're on the list. I mean, it is crazy. We don't know who's on the island, right? Can we just acknowledge that? Where's the island? Zanzibar. No, it's not. No. Where's the island, Chris? It's in the Caribbean. It's urgent. Nah, come on.  I know, man. I'm not going for that low hanging fruit. The hell? Chris. Chris is so crazy. That was low hanging fruit, Chris. Some people would say that fruit was not ripe. Yeah. Really? Man, that is sick. What do you mean?  What do you mean? That's sick. What do you mean? To have that type of operation going down at the U.S. Virgin Islands, Joe? I mean, they're going there for that reason, right?    We have confirmation that there is sex trafficking. She's locked up for it. We believe 100% is, I don't know if he's convicted of it because he's dead, but he was going to be convicted of it. I know for a fact that there is a sex trafficking operation going on, yet we don't have one single person that's confirmed to have been part of it. Maybe because... Isn't that weird a little bit? Well, maybe because, you know, that just shows you how powerful the people on this list are.  What's going to happen when people see the list? They'll get arrested and they'll go to jail. What did not? They've been arrested already. Why wouldn't they be arrested? Because how powerful they are probably... So you're saying it's R. R.  But there were people that did. I mean, there are these women out here saying... Say it again. How do we know the difference? Because I haven't heard any women talk about who they slept with at the island. I mean, they did. They called it... One story they called out Prince Andrew. Prince Andrew? Yeah, I remember Prince Andrew.  Walking around free. He's still a prince. Oh, he's also not from here, though.  I don't know how the laws work. I'm pretty sure...  He's also the king, right? No, it's Prince.  Like I said, that shows how powerful these people are. You know what I mean? Like, it's probably some very powerful people on this list. And... In case of R. R. Like, what are people going to do? Arrest the people that are on the list. Never happened. I mean, and then I think that we should be able to go, this is ridiculous that this hasn't happened. It'll never happen, man. Like, America does not know how to punish the powerful and the privileged. Well, maybe if the list gets out, the justice is more crumble under the pressure of public scrutiny. It's not going to happen. And if we all knew that there were people that went to the islands, you don't think that we would be going crazy? No, because you know what's so interesting? The people that folks think are powerful and the people that folks think are really controlling things, it's not the motherfuckers y'all think. It ain't these celebrities, y'all. I know y'all want to believe that these motherfuckers that make records and sing and dance for a living have this powerful influence over the world. They really don't.  But I'm talking about the people who actually move... True power. And shake things and shape this world. You don't even know who they are.  So let's find them and put them in jail for what they did. I don't see it happening. I feel like they would have happened already. Yo, Jeffrey... Think about this, right? Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. Allegedly?  Now, let's look at the conspiracy theory. Jeffrey Epstein got killed because people didn't want him to flip. So what did that tell you? He's not only got killed, allegedly.  Nobody. I mean, we care. Jeffrey Epstein could be the suicide. We want them to have justice. People took that story and ran with it.  No investigation, no nothing. He just hung himself in a cell and everybody kept it moving. All I'm simply saying is those powers that be, that's probably on this list, above the law. Are all the girls that are doing the accusations, are they not allowed to talk or something? Like, why is it every news publication bringing them on? Are they worried they're going to get sued by the powerful people? Get sued? Killed. Who knows? I'm just saying, like, these are... Whoever is on this list is probably literally some of the most powerful people we've ever encountered.  Like, that's why... I don't know, man. I don't know. The fact that this list is out and it says CNN is still reviewing it. Like, there's not... Like you said, there's not one name already. How long ago this list came out? And there's not one name? Come on, man. Court documents naming Jeffrey Epstein's associates. This is ABC News. It says more than 150 John and Jane Doce. And these articles are mad short. Okay. Now, this one's... Okay, we said powerful. Talk to me. Talk to me. This is Business Insider. The names of more than 170 Jeffrey Epstein associates were just revealed in our two court documents. Here's what we know. Powerful associates like Bill Clinton, which we know, Prince Andrew, Glenn Dubin. I don't even know who that is. And John Luke Brinell are in the documents. I don't even know who that is. You ever heard of these people? I'm looking at this one, too. What do you see? Former President Clinton, who ABC has learned has identified as Dill 36, has mentioned more than 50 of the redacted filings according to the court records. Some of those sealed redacted entries are focused on an effort by Goofrey's lawyers in mid-2016 for supporting ABC News to subpoena the two-term Democratic president for deposition testimony about his relationship with Epstein. Glenn Dublin. Let's see who this is. American billionaire hedge fund manager and the principal of Dublin & Company's LP, a private investment company. You see what I'm saying? Vera Wang. How much is this net worth? What's this net worth? Damn, he sold the stake in the company for $1.3 billion. Naomi Campbell. $1 billion. What you looking at? Oh, we knew Naomi was on it. Thor Bjorn Joglund. Thor was on it? Thor. Robert Kennedy Jr. God at thunder. Sirgi Bryn, the Google co-founder. What are you watching? What are you... Sight your sources. Intelligencer? Intelligencer. According to a court filing, Epstein advised Bryn from 2004 to 2007 including guidance on how to set up tax shelter, tax saving trust for Bryn's kids called the grantor attained annuity trust with bankers at JPMorgan Chase. Bryn became a client to the bank in 2004 following referral from Epstein and subsequently more than $4 billion in accounts there. Wow. Here's the thing. If they've already said on CNN that being on this list doesn't mean you committed a crime or anything like that, what's going to happen? Yikes. William Burns. What do you think, Chris? CIA director. The CIA director? William Burns. The documents indicate that Epstein had three scheduled meetings in 2014 with Burns who was at that point the deputy secretary of state in the Obama administration. They met both in Washington, D.C. New York per the journal. A lunch was planned in August office, law firm of Steptoe and Johnson in Washington. Epstein scheduled two evening appointments that September with Mr. Burns at his townhouse in the documents show. After one of the scheduled meetings, Epstein planned for his driver to take Mr. Burns to the airport. A longtime diplomat left the state department in October later that year became president of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace where he remained until President Biden nominated Burns to run the CIA in 2021. Whoa. I'm going to be honest with you, I don't know what any of this means. Just, these are the people that he was associated with. It doesn't say that they were on the island. But that's my point. So putting all of these names out, like what is this going, like what is this all, what is this doing? Well, all these people were hanging out with the most notorious pedophile in the world. But he wasn't, he was a pedophile, but what was his day job? What did he do? I think he had a single client. He managed money for a single client. But he clearly advised people too though from what you're doing? Maybe he did some advice, but maybe that advice was about currying favor with them so that he could, you know, manipulate them. Is it possible that he could be, could he, he could have been? What's the guy's name? Who is this client? The guy who owns Victoria's Secret? Ah, yeah. Shit. But that's one of his many holdings. Yeah, we can look it up. Leon, somebody. And he's in Ohio. I don't know, man. I just don't know what, what do we expect to come, come at us?   When was that? Um, no, not, it's not a Marin Waters, another person. When was the first Epstein conviction?  Like how is, let's say you were just taking a meeting for some philanthropic endeavors.  We're not taking this meeting. Jesus Christ, he committed suicide too? Less Wexner. Less Wexner. Who was this person that they said committed suicide? Everybody around them, bro. Come on. In 1993, Raymond died by suicide after jumping off the Golden State Bridge in San Francisco. Yeah. He's motherfuckers, boy. Yup. In the secrets that they be tying. Yup. Jesus Christ. Cheaper to delete her. God. That's true. That's what they do. These people are crazy. They're crazy. Let's do some by any means necessary.   What happened? You didn't see the picture? J.M. Pinkett Smith, man.  Yo. What? Who are the Ozympic gold medalists, y'all? Who are the Ozympic gold medalists? Who are the people that have lost the most weight because of Ozympic? Who are the biggest, most notable, so noticeable weight loss people that we've seen? That's a great one. Who lost the most weight? Who lost the most weight? That's what we need.  Let's do the Ozympic gold medalist. I want to know who's Ozympic gold, who's Ozympic silver, who's Ozympic bronze. You don't even got to give me a big list. Just give me three. Who is the Ozympic gold medalist, Ozympic silver medalist, Ozympic bronze medalist? Wait, is Fat Joe on Ozympic? Nah, Fat Joe ain't on the Ozympic. Randy Jackson been lost weight, though. Randy Jackson had lost weight way before. I need like the new ones. And who's the new people? Who's the celebrity? Who's admitted to being on Ozympic? I know Tracy Morgan did. Oprah did.  Like who? Nah, but just be like, why would you still be fat? Okay, stars have spoken about her. Yeah, I don't get it. Oprah Winfrey. Kiki Palmer was on Ozympic? Let me read the article, y'all. One of the hottest topics is type two diabetes drugs in his fellows. There's no way Kiki Palmer was on those goddamn Ozympic, y'all. Okay, Oprah. Sharon, what does Sharon have to lose? Sharon, yeah. I mean, she's going through it. She's already thin. Heather Gay. I don't even know who that is. Who's Heather Gay? Garcelle. Garcelle Buva. She's on Real Housewives. None of these people were big beforehand, y'all. I need to see some real Ozympic success stories, y'all. You know what I mean? Tracy Morgan, Tracy didn't seem that big to me either. Yeah, Tracy wasn't that big. Who would he be? Amy Schumer was on Ozympic? I need to see before and after pictures. Yeah, yeah. I need to see before and after pictures. I'm serious. I need to see before and after pictures, y'all. Stasi, is that the friend of... I don't know who that is. Keep going, Taylor. The Kardashians. Wait, she got bigger after this? Oh, come on, yeah. Amy Schumer slams celebs lying about Ozympic youth. I can see it. Nah, nah, nah, I see it. I see it. I can see it. Okay. Is she an Ozympic gold medalist? Nah. Silver? Nah. Bronze? Nah, there's got to be like a huge... Yeah, I need to know the boo. Who was the Big Mac, y'all? Who was the 300-pounder that lost weight, y'all? I don't know none of these people. Anthony Anderson? Oh, wow. I think it's pointless to do Ozympic if you got one of them heads that ain't going to lose weight. Seriously, because a lot of the people... I'm not even... A lot of people have like Anthony Anderson, Amy Schumer, they have heads that aren't going to lose weight. But they don't know that. Yeah, but you kind of do. You know your body type. You lost weight before. It's not the first time that they've lost weight. Sometimes you have a head, because most of the time when you lose weight, the first place you see it is in people's face. Yeah, that's true. Some people will lose it in their body but still have that head, that fat head, and it looks strange. It's deceiving, you're saying. It's deceiving, you know what I mean?  And you're like, hey, you know, you're doing Ozympic for no reason. But then when you look at the full frame, you're like, oh, okay, I see where they lost weight. Yeah. You know? I mean, yeah, Julia Fox makes sense. She got so thin. Megan McCain? I definitely ain't seen none of this. Damn, my fucking... No, this is the Epstein list. You guys, this isn't the Ozympic list.  It's disgusting.  What up, Taylor? Goose and buy any memes necessary, Taylor. Let's see what we got.   That was wild. Wow. I mean, there's...    It's crazy.  Yo, that's crazy, right?  That, maybe he just misspoke. Yeah, maybe he misspoke. Maybe that's not what he meant, but... Oh, wow, boy.  Maybe, though. Come on, bro. Maybe. I'm telling you, I can see it. You can see what? Like, I think there are male actors who also had to go through what Harvey put people through to get some roles. Duh. And none of them have come out about it. Yeah, but all we've heard about Harvey is just girls, women, that he's done that for roles.  Duh.   It's powerful women in the business who take advantage of, you know, their positions. Hell, yeah.    I can see that, though. But how would we feel about it? Yeah. How would we feel about it? Yeah. Movie, please. What movie? Blue Beetle. Yeah. Blue Beetle. Our boy, Jolo. It's strange, right?  What if she reverses it? What? Try the same thing. Okay, save me. Let's reverse. You go. Huh?  No, I don't like how that's going to look on camera.  You know what I mean? So what are you saying? You go. That's what bothers you. Not you bending over before. All the memes they're going to put. Ain't nobody making the memes.   Okay, and it's a...  This is how that's going to go. That's a question, right?   That's what I'm saying. It's yes immediately. And then you found out you're also going to be in a movie and you're like, this is great. I thought I was just coming here to audition.  Now I'm also going to be in the movie. This is the best case scenario ever. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting. I mean, I saw what Cat Williams said.  Who am I to dismiss what Cat Williams said?  I feel like Cat has talked about this before though. About... The Harvey Weinstein thing. I feel like he... Because that's what he was explaining in the interview. He was like, I got... I got black barred.  And he said that in his stand-up? I don't know if it was in his stand-up, but I feel like he said that... He said that somewhere before. So what's the shade in the shop though? Club Shea Shade be cookin'. He is cookin', man. Club Shea Shade be fuckin' cookin'.  I mean, like I said, I don't... I don't think Cat Williams is lying. But? I don't think it's a but.  No, they're wild boys.  You know what I mean?  That's the crazy thing to me. Yeah, if you're the person with the power and you have the ability to change somebody's situation, why would you be suckin' the dick? Yeah, yeah. That's what makes it even wilder.  Cat's a comedian. That's a better bit. It is a way better bit. That's a better bit. You know what I'm saying? Like, if he was to say Harvey asked me to do X, Y, and Z, we expect that. He said something funny afterwards.   So he couldn't just be doing a bit. It's funny. It's hilarious. It's funny. It's funny, man. It's funny. What else we got, Taylor? Taylor Gang. Tay-Tay. I saw Cat say something too about Kevin Hart and he said Kevin Hart's... Kevin Hart's come up wasn't organic. I totally disagree with that. I totally disagree with that. And the reason I disagree with that is because we watched Kev not succeed in Hollywood. We watched his NBC sitcom. I think it was NBC. We watched his sitcom not succeed in Hollywood. We watched Soul Plane not do well. Also stand-up is like as organic as it gets. Kevin was selling out these shows. He was selling out clubs, arenas.  There's nothing... The industry can keep putting somebody in a movie that we don't like.  And maybe that's what happened with Kevin initially. But with stand-up, nobody can force people to go see your show. That's right.  Play the clip, Taylor. Play the clip. Scroll up, scroll up, scroll up, scroll up. Go to coaching millennials, scroll up, Taylor. Right. Yeah, play that one, that one. That one. What has a memory of going to a sold out Kevin Hart show? They're being aligned. In 15 years in Hollywood, no one in Hollywood has a memory of going to a sold out Kevin Hart show. I know. They're being aligned for him ever getting a standing ovation at any club. He already had his deals when he got here. Have we heard of a comedian that came to LA and in his first year in LA he had his own sitcom on network television and had his own movie called Soul Plane that he was leading? No. We've never heard of that before that person or since that person. What do you think a plant is? Maybe people don't understand the definitions of these words. He just did his documentary with Chris Rock where he shows you that his whole upbringing in comedy was on the East Coast. Yeah, it was. So how simultaneously was he here in Los Angeles doing the same thing? It didn't happen. It didn't happen.  Yeah, I don't know about the early L.A. shit, but we watch Kev. Calm, not be successful. We watch Kev's Soul Plane not do well and then Kev hit that stand-up circuit and Kev was in those comedy clubs and I can tell y'all things that I saw firsthand. Kev would have his team walk around the comedy clubs and collect everybody's email and he would collect these emails all across the country and he started sending out a newsletter.   Because he already had this database of people because of his newsletter. I remember when Kev sold out, and I've told this story a million times, it's in Kev's book too, Kev sold out Caroline's Comedy Club 12 times in a weekend.  It was some crazy unprecedented number. Kev added shows.  Going back and forth, Kev looked at Duvall and said, hey man, they about to announce my name.  So we're probably just in this conversation now and as soon as Kevin said that, come into the stage, you see them on this, you see them on that, you see them on that. From Philadelphia, Kevin Hart, crowd loses it. Kev walks off, turns back to Duvall, winks, he goes on stage. I saw that for myself. I was 2009, maybe early 2010. So yeah, I got to disagree with Kat on that one. I was at one of those sold out shows. I remember when he did that at Caroline, and that was such a huge moment deal. I have to disagree with Kat on that one. What else we got? Every time I cough, Chris looks at me crazy. He's like, man, he just came back from Africa. He's coughing.  You think Charlotte got the malaria? Chris, is Charlotte got the malaria or what? I'm not thinking malaria. What do you think he got? The Vinsky? COVID. He got the Dirk. Ebola! Yo, shout out to my man that jumped over that desk, yo. Yo, sorry.  What was it? Jimmy Snooker? Superfly Jimmy Snooker? Didn't he do the... Superfly Jimmy Snooker? That guy is crazy. You a wild boy.  She really did. No way, man. Swandove over the desk.  She went like this. Boom. I want to know what he was charged with. You got to be about to do... But he couldn't be because he got his probation tonight. Whatever he did... Or whatever he's accused of...     This is insane. For you to... For you to rush the judge into the desk... The dive is crazy.  Yeah, bruh. Where is the bailiff? He's getting fired. Fired. Let me try to grab his foot. Look at the bailiff go for the foot. Fired, bruh.  We were leaving Zanzibar. Man, it was like... It was like two, three in the morning.  So I'm looking at the X-ray. The ladies... The ladies at the X-ray machines. Nope. No, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. She was just knocked out. It wasn't like she was alone.   What else we got, Taylor? Shout out to Snoop Dogg. He's going to be doing the corresponding for the Olympics. Love this, bruh. You know what I mean? Shout out to Snoop. Loot to Snoop. Always love to see Snoop Prosper. One of our greatest icons ever. I'm in that new Snoop movie. What's it called? Underdogs. For real? I think I played a bad guy. It's about football or something, right? Yeah, I saw the promo for that. And Mike Epps in there, too? Mike Epps is in there. Loot to Mike Epps, too, man. What Mike Epps did in his hometown is amazing. What'd he do? He bought his old block, and he renovated all the houses on the block. Oh, he bought it? Yeah, he bought the whole block. He did home renovation? Yeah, man. This guy's rich, bruh. Yes, he has. We got another ad? Let's do another ad. Let's do some asking idiots. Well, maybe we'll get... Sreena explains how Beyoncé helped open door for female rappers. Yeah, I love Sreena.  I love Sreena. I'm a Pink and Smith Winfrey knows Carter, but it's no need for us to get crazy and say things that just aren't true. You know what I mean? For female rappers Beyoncé opened... Love Beyoncé to death.  And you could even go Generations, right? You could say Queen Latifah, MC Light, for their Generation.  People always like to leave The Brat out. The Brat was the first female rapper to go platinum. For a solo female rapper to go platinum. I don't even know, that's like the 80s. Salt and Pepper, they opened the doors. I was trying to go on the timeline, but clearly I got my timeline mixed up when I put Little Kim, The Brat, and Foxy before Salt and Pepper. But then after that, you got the Nicki Minaj's. This whole new era of women over the last decade. I don't know where I put Lauren in there. Really? As a rapper? Because Lauren was not just a rapper. You know, she was a rapper, singer. And when Lauren came the doors were already open. The reason I really give Nicki a lot, a lot, a lot of credit the doors for female rap was closed at that time. When Nicki, when Nicki started bubbling with young money early on, even before that when she was on the Fendi to come up DVDs, female rap was kind of stagnant in a lot of ways. And she came in and had tremendous, tremendous success. And I think that reignited the female rap fire in the music industry. So that's why somebody like Nicki, I say Nicki opened a lot of doors. And you do got to give Cardi credit too because Cardi opened doors too. Cardi opened doors in a different way because Cardi came from a social media aspect. So she opened the door for a whole another generation of women. I don't see what Beyonce fits to that equation. Long story short. What's the ad, Taylor? Taylor Gang. Taylor, man. Taylor Gang. Same old Taylor. Guys, thank you so much to Squarespace for supporting this week's episode of the podcast. Squarespace is the all-in-one platform for building your brand and growing your business online. Stand out with a beautiful website. Engage your audience to sell anything, your products, content you create, even your time. Upload, organize and access all your content from one place. With the new Asset Library you'll be able to manage all your files in one central hub and use them across Squarespace's platform. Get started with one of the most professional website templates that are out there and they are already ready to go at Squarespace. They have designs in every category and use case. Then customize your look, update the content and add features to fit your unique needs. You can make any Squarespace template do what you want so your idea brand or business stands out online on every single device. Okay, listen here. Right now you can improve your website and build a marketing strategy based on your top keywords and most popular products and content. How can you do that? Because they have the insights that you need to grow your business.  Let's do some asking idiots, Taylor Gang. So Michael Black said he said Cat Williams is a very smart midget nigger. He took shots at the top 10 comedians alive today so we can all respond and make him relevant again. Michael said I can't believe this line dehydrated leprechauns that he told me to build a school LMAO.  I don't agree. Cat Williams is always relevant. He's Cat Williams. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like Cat Williams is one of the best stand-ups you know everybody has always thought Cat was funny. Like the thing I love about stand-up comedy, unbelievably funny, the thing I love that you've ever been a great at stand-up comedy, people are always interested to hear what you got to say. That's right. Whether it's a podcast, whether it's a special, so it's hard to use words like relevant for people like Cat Williams. Like he's a legend. You know what I mean? Yeah, 100%. That being said, now after this interview I'm like, oh I gotta see a cat show. Like to me it like peaks my interest a little bit more. Like I see how funny this guy's being. I see how salacious he is. He's on the road every year though. Of course, I'm just saying it's a reminder for me for the average person. Sometimes you can get out of your group that is going to come support you no matter what. So. Remember when Cat took a shot at me? What is that? Cat said this was years ago. Can you pull it up Taylor? See you can find that. He said I forgot what the context was. He said, because I said something he was like my question for Charlemagne is if he was to die the day would anybody care? Goddamn. It's not about bro. That's harsh. I think people would care. I mean now. He might have been right back there. Bro, there's a sat. You've seen a clip of him roasting the female radio host. Oh yeah, Wanda. Classic. I mean he just had. Cat Williams is going to die. If Cat Williams does not change his ways. If Cat Williams does not start moving in a different route. Cat Williams is going to end up in jail at day because it's only about so many times somebody that's 4 foot 11 and 90 pounds going to keep trying people. Well, you could say that about most of the black men I know and somehow be correct. Understand that somebody's either going to end up dead or something else is almost not even worth saying. I don't really know anybody who didn't end up dead. It's really about what you do in your life and so now he is certainly able to have his opinion but last time I checked Cat Williams is either going to end up dead or living forever and those two choices are fine. The real question is if he were to die would anyone care? I can't seem to spin on the sidewalk without full TMZ coverage. I'm imagining he doesn't have anything against me as a person. He just decided he was going to be the donkey of the day or speak his mind. I know the guy, he's funny. I'm sure he was telling a joke to say I would end up dead or in jail. I've been in jail lots. You bail out. Your life doesn't end there so I'm saying I'm already born again. I've already fulfilled both of his fantasies. He is mesmerizing. When you say somebody for Michael Blacks and say Cat Williams is mentioning names to be relevant he's a legend already.  I haven't even watched the whole interview yet.  Cat Williams spoke about this. I didn't know he spoke about Michael Blacks until Michael Blacks had said something. But Michael Blacks is like yo, let me let people know he's talked about me too. Because now Michael is going viral. Everybody's eating off each other.  Shit. I'm going to be on the next now that you've conquered MSG. I still got to do my MSG shows so that's what we're focusing on right now. So the tour is obviously happening and we're finding and getting it perfect and making sure there's something extra special for those MSG shows. That is actually the biggest thing you have to focus on. Selling it out is one thing but now you got to show people why you were worthy of selling it out. Absolutely. I'm excited about that. Are you afraid? Meaning that when you get to that level I'm glad. I like your answer because there's no need to do what's next to make it show it's a great show. That's what's now. That's what was yesterday. That's what's tomorrow. It's my complete focus and stand up right now is just making sure this show is so special. And this show is different than anything I've ever done. I want to make sure that it's also greater than anything I've ever done. That's the best way to focus man. It's been a bad year for white comedians with nice hair. You know what I'm saying? I don't know.    What did I miss? Shit. Tia Jenna says we just talked about it. What are your thoughts on Kat's recent interview? Kat Williams? We just talked about it. Super entertaining. I mean that's it. There's nothing else. If Kat wants to garner attention he can do it in a heartbeat. That's what that proves. And by the way, once again Kat goes on a tour every year. New material. He's prolific.  And the biggest thing about Kat man that I'll say just to put a button on the Kat Williams thing what I love about Kat Williams I don't know him personally. I think I met Kat like once way back in the day when I was working with Wendy but I like how I hear other comedians talk about him. Other comedians talk about how Kat took me on the road. You know Kat put money in my pocket like to me that's what I care about. I care about you know what are you doing with your position you know are you a service in that way. And I think I saw a clip where he spoke about that too. He said he's taking 26 different comedians on the road. That's a lot. A lot of people. If you think about it, that's a lot. You took 26 comedians on the road and I can name a few of them. I know Lunel speaks very highly of Kat Williams. Ms. Pat speaks very highly of Kat Williams. You know what I'm saying? I know Red Grant really personally either but he speaks highly of Kat Williams. But I've heard numerous different comedians always speak highly of Kat and talk about the money that they've received because of Kat so I respect shit like that.  That'll change a comic's life too man. Especially if you're doing spots for 25 bucks and some guy hands you a rack it's big. Let's scroll down to the American plane. It says if you can undo one thing you did to a person what would it be and who? Wow. Whoa that's a big one. If you can undo one thing you did to a person what would it be and who? Hmmm. What's yours Taylor? Get the mic Taylor what's your name? My friend of Mayweather. We always say that. Oh yeah I don't think you care about that. I mean I do care but I don't know if I would undo it. That's a tough one man. I'm trying to think of a time where I heard someone's feelings but I didn't want to.  I'm a jokester. Can't everyone say that though? No because they're not as funny as us. What I'm just saying though they can play their I'm saying if they're trying to be one you can just be like well I'm a comedian. I'm trying to think what's the time? What's the time though? We should be able to get this. Like we hurt somebody. I don't know because I feel like I don't know I feel like everything truly happens for a reason. You know I think sometimes we say that statement everything happens for a reason and we say that as if it's just some mystical stuff.  You know what I mean?  But if you learn from it and there was a lesson in it.  I wish I wasn't like as hard on him like when we were playing one on one. I know this sounds petty supportive or found the best way to engage him instead of just being like kind of competitive at basketball or whatever. I could have probably been nicer in those moments. Yeah I'm with that. I think for me that's probably what it would kind of be like too.  So you might find yourself getting short with your kids. Yeah. You know what I mean? You might even yell sometimes and you automatically got to take all of that back. Yeah. You want to do any damage. Like yeah you just don't know. I did that to my eight year old today because the plane is landing. So I'm trying to adjust the five year old's seat and everything and get her ready for landing and then my eight year old is trying to tell me something and I'm like I'm trying to help over here and tell me something and oh my five year old's ears were popping. Oh that's fucked. So she was asking for gum but everybody had already put the bags up. Yeah. So I'm trying to tell her to drink water and she don't understand that aspect of just swallowing because she's just used to chewing the gum. So my eight year old is trying to tell me I forgot what she was trying to say but I'm just like hush she's just trying to tell me something in order to help the five year old. So it's like stuff like that when you do that you're like I didn't have to tell her. You know what I mean? That's not that bad. You know what I mean? I'm trying to tell you something and I'm like hush because you don't want to think that the eight year old knows what they're talking about. But they do. They're humans. They're kids but they're humans. I always wish my dad mostly did more of when I was young. So when you find yourself doing that as a father you're like I don't want to do that. So anytime when you say undo one thing you did to a person what would it be and who? 95% of it is probably a bunch of stuff that had to do with us. It's the people you care about. My kids. Even with my mom now you're a little bit older you realize that your parents are human too and they have their flaws and stuff knowing that maybe I could have been more supportive maybe I know I could have been more loving etc.  For example we're on the plane from Darcy Lomb to Zanzibar it's like a 20 minute flight there's a dude sitting next to me and he's like I guess he lives in Zanzibar he's like man can I get a picture and I'm like let's wait till we get off the plane right?


Hi, I'm Lieutenant Matt Murray with the Denver Police Department Media Relations Unit. I'm at 2121 South Sheridan, which is the scene of a stabbing from last night. We're at the Monty Carlo Bar. We're going to be talking to some district detectives who are investigating that case. Okay, I'm with Detective Rob Gray of District 4 Investigations, and he's going to let us know a little bit about what happened last night. Okay, about approximately 1.45 this morning, February 2, 2013. Here at the Monty Carlo nightclub, which is located at 2121 South Sheridan, the crowd let out about 1.45 a.m. Two individuals exited the bar and were actually milling around in the lot. They made their way down in the parking lot. Down here on West Evans Avenue was a party bus where approximately 24 individuals were celebrating somebody's birthday. They had parked out on Evans, did not have anything to do with the Monty Carlo Club. Two individuals from the Monty Carlo Club got into an altercation with up to 20 individuals from the bus. During the altercation, approximately six people were stabbed inside this parking lot, and that is what we're investigating. Were there were six total people stabbed? Yes. Five went to the hospital, is that correct? All six went to the hospital, one was released within hours, and the other five are still currently at the hospital. And you have suspects in custody? Yes, we do. We have two suspects in custody. Okay, thanks very much. Appreciate your help.