I know Sharon's coming, but let's get started because we've done a lot to do how do you know that? Because I talked to her Okay minutes reflect that and Cliff is absent tonight, so Peter wants to talk to us About a public comment I came to you last year about this time and Asked you not to mow Follow the road over a stretch road this pond road And I did I talked to most of the people live there apparently I didn't talk to one or two that One left you a message Wanting to know so I did go talk to I like to do the same thing again this year and this is the At the ends of each of those three roads you sell me a couple of those I can use to Well, I'm gonna get a glass you're and I you know if it's sorry with you I'd like to put the same ones up. I Met the fellow the subcontractor Oh No, it is subcontractor He got in the first 30 or 40 feet of this Me last year last year as I was just as I was going up put up a stake and stopped him And he was confused. They didn't know what was going on. Oh, but he did turn around go away The only concern I have is that last year You hadn't had a chance to talk to all the neighbors. Yeah, and I got phone calls because No, I wasn't done and there was some What was it you told me about one? Yeah site this distances with killer ins and the burdock so is there a way For somebody to cut some of that stuff down side that down because it's only I went up my car to see what I looked driveway and And where that's a problem. It's easy to just hand side that because it's it's only the corner So you're willing to do that. Yeah But I also got to organize because this is not going to be a you know Five-year project or a ten-year project. It's a forever project So it's just a matter of trying to keep it at bay. It's already John and I were talking about cubs you know You're familiar with katsu on town south It literally goes over buildings. This won't do that. This will stop at this three or four feet high But but yeah, sure. Yeah, but but but it turns out. I just emailed you an article about katsu And it's on Martha's finger and a con so it's probably it may be what you're pulling out of the Nantucket but At any rate, it's it's easier to stop by than it is to do something about it. Yeah You can't there are no no herbicides that I get rid of it terrible terrible That's who there is because it's much easier now if you keep on it But anyway, so I will go talk to I think I emailed you I would yeah go talk with all the neighbors. I'll keep a list hand out Something that a hard part is ending up something small enough I emailed you at five articles, which is right ten pages or more. Yeah So it's any and then I think the thing to do is to just to offer walks to go and point it out And I I did do that with everybody Yeah Hi So this is about yep, so I'd like to Yeah, like I said the only concern I have I want to make sure that this year, you know Everybody that's affected on that road is aware that we have a way to Cut down the other brush that grows up that you know They were a little they were pretty upset that their brush didn't get cut down and everybody else's did along the roadside and It's like distances for their driveway. It's not the one I heard about with Sue and she wasn't upset with me She just didn't know what was going on. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess she was Maybe that's not the right word, but she was concerned. I guess they were I mean they were really nice about it Yeah, so I will give you a list Here your next official meeting that we're in the next regular meeting okay in two weeks of all the people I've contacted and Copy the handout that I'll give to okay And and I what I hope to do is is go on weekly walks as this. It's just starting to bud now And so you're starting to see it. Yeah, but as if the buds are just starting to open up So, when did you want to post the signs? Before you start knowing okay, so in the next week or so or two. So if you come back to us at the next meeting with a List of everybody you've contacted etc etc, and we can vote to approve the signage. Okay I'll leave you the sign and if you want to change the wording. I made up the wording after you okay Where are you getting us printed up down into a capital copy? Yeah, yeah, they they re-formatted it and And then we try looking at it from the distances. Yeah I've never seen him last year. So Somebody did pull up the signs at the intersection of the triangle and threw them off into the woods Recently this year last year a couple of times and I went out and I replaced them We never find out who steals the lightning ridge signs either. No, or who does a few other things right now, but would you like me to leave this with you? But make some copies for me if you're going to go down there. Yeah Thank you for doing that. Okay. Well, good. Thank you. Yep And yeah, it's we have to get more than just be involved. Yeah, it's easier with me doing it in a way, but it Probably going out a couple of times a week for the month maybe to me with the conservation commission Well, I'd like to get the people whose property is yeah My my incentive is is that if I can keep it at bay doesn't get to my place And I went out and I bought a 17 year old Kubota This winter But it is if you if you the worst road I've seen and I've been all over Calis is the adamant road section between Fowler Road and up to the top of the hill and it's already working its way out into the fields on both sides of there It's Michael's and gales and the brush on down counterclockwise You can watch it go around both those fields counterclockwise So it's it was brought in by the state up to 14. It's brought into Calis by art and now Your brush cutting on fields is taking it in filling in the fields. So That's something that's only where they hate Well Being spreading it around against me Michael just brush logs. He doesn't have yeah across the way they Right, but that's you know once it goes to seed the brush on just picks it up. Yeah, and carries it And I went down I talked to Rick Barstow and he got somewhat defensive about it He said well, it's the cars that are doing it. It's not him So I haven't got anywhere yet on that I've heard that too Peter Because you know, it's all caught up in the end of care And then we go drive around the fields like we do So Thank you See it coming towards their property Well, it's all about education. Yeah, thanks again. Okay. All right. Thank you. So yeah, so just remind me Here you go, you just won. Oh, thank you Sorry, I don't know your name are you here for public comment I think we should have pointed to something is he living in town Yes Let me see now John John is a bitch He's a fetch from Yeah, I know right? Yeah, yeah Well, well, I'll be looking we need young blood. Mm-hmm. Let's get my old Okay, are there any additions or changes to the agenda All right The warrants are being circulated and there's a note on one of the sets of the warrants That I didn't and I looked at least three times for the check and I don't see it So I don't I left a note so we can get Santa to clarify where the check is All right. I don't know if anybody From the road Commissioner our operations manager are coming So I don't have any update on the broken frame Um last Monday it was last Monday you mentioned Worcester Road and Collar Hill Road were really badly washed out Peek and Brook Road They had to close Peek and Brook because it was flooded So I don't think any of the damage was significant that's significant But you know, they total it all up and give the amount to see the RPC who then totals it up and gives the total Amount to FEMA let bridges as we know low there So as soon as any debris just always goes around the groups. Yeah, I think that was gonna be a problem right and then it feels where the Armstrong farm is or that's not I'm strong anymore, but I Drove by there later in the day just to see if the road was open. You wouldn't even know there had been fields there yet It was unbelievable. Yeah So I'm assuming that they the guys kept track of that and we'll report it to CVR PC Um We have I don't know anything more on the one-time truck than what we learned last meeting You remember that Alfred or Toby updated us on One of the projects for this summer is the Moscow Woods Grant that they apply for And it is that they want to resurface that paved area Up to you know when you pull into Moscow Woods and at that little intersection there, right village. Yeah Yeah, so it's you know down past the old mill Moscow Woods. No The grant award was thirty five thousand two hundred and thirty two dollars And it's a twenty percent in-kind match So I just need authorization to sign this on behalf of the town Somebody Do you recommend that we sign this I'm signing it I signed it because I'm Assuming Sandra will have send us an email with that check because it's pretty it's it's to the school. Yeah For like fifty was it fifty five fifty one thousand three thirty. Yeah There is another check in there. That's the school for forty six something forty six. Yeah, six eighty six So I just want her to clarify where Where that check is? um Alfred met with the conservation Commission about the most roadside moment schedule and the Hydrocedar and Conservation Commission had some questions toky sent around a document that is I think it's in the Google folder. That's the grant. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's one. Yeah. That was a dude. That was actually something that Joanne Garten, yep that from the state Put together about roadside going Yeah so that's when Joanne and We only budgeted for two moments. So we have to figure out One of the best times are and I'm waiting for the conservation Commission to kind of make a recommendation Well, we started it soon enough We are but no not us. I mean the growing is fine. Well, that's what I was gonna say. We're behind but so is the growing Yeah, thankfully, right, right? so This was a really I read this document. This is a really it's concise and it's it's really it's it's really clear and Very specific. So in that way really helpful Joanne Garten wrote this I think yeah, she pulled it all together somehow from mom seems to be pukes best management practices and So she's saying areas infested with chervil For the plant bolt and produced flowers. So it's already according to Peter flowers are already coming out Other common evasives So I think we have to decide from this information and Whatever the conservation Commission has for input they did talk about it at their last meeting, but they hadn't come to any specific guidance on What it should be when we should do mowing? so Is it really for I mean I understand it's it's the week we can decide but I'm I still even with this I feel like the best people to decide are the Road crew working in partnership with the conservation I think they did. I think they did take a time. Did they pull that up? Yeah. Yeah. Isn't it minutes? Oh, okay I thought I And they asked the road commissioner to communicate that with the person who's doing mowing. Oh Okay, I guess I mean so maybe we just could say it out loud and note it and Be happy that they're working together He takes conservation minutes to so Just eating this is discussion of the hydroceder, right? I think they and they asked Alfred to get some more Information on the hydroceder What's a hydroceder it's that thing where you see on the side of the road like if you go to Winbury They spray that green Katie you had something Extra with seed and fertilizer Okay, early June and the beginning of August They asked the road commissioner to schedule early June. So they did that decision And I was there what they didn't decide Katie was the part about posting signs Yes, they mentioned that. Yeah In case of not leader roadsides without Commission did not come to a consensus. They don't Just did not Right, I know both sides right cut by hand. Is that something is that a big deal? Well, I think it's not weed. I Think there are areas that have significant not weed I mean Doug's not gonna be able. No, they're not gonna be able to jump on it off the tractor to cut stuff by hand Right, they have no way to wash the right mower in between Not we can cause traffic I said this last year, it's it's too bad I don't know what the statute changed, but I remember talking to Bob Kinsey farmer for Craster years ago When he was a state rep and he was telling me about why he supported the bottle bill It's because back then the law was you hadn't mow you were responsible for your frontage on the road And if you weren't a farmer, you didn't have a tractor you didn't mow it to the town It's in your bill I don't know I don't know how or when whether a statutory or just no one forces it like But in any event Kinsey scored the bottle because he skittles the big tractor tires from the bottles So he didn't pick him up But you know if that while we're in play today Everyone's responsible for their own frontage. We wouldn't be mowing everywhere and spreading the stuff all over stuff and stay confined so can we Say in our minutes that we support the suggestion of the conservation Commission in the cutting of Not we We're needed for road safety visibility and that we Support their So the road crew would do the cutting rather than Dug so wouldn't spread it around that's what it sounds like And that the road commissioners schedule One roadside blowing for June and in the beginning of August Yeah, I mean I Agree with supporting you as far as it goes. I'm still not clear on what On If we just stop there and don't get into the whole bottom part of what where they didn't agree. That's good So we just we're glad to see that they reached a consensus and we support it on on the moment schedule So we're not saying anything about the signs. No, we could Well, we don't want to go against I think we should check and see what their Thought was what their issue was before we Just let I mean Doug knows like anybody knows what not we Know not to know it if we ask I know what I talked to him last year of the year before about not we he was gonna try to You know be careful So well it used to me that I didn't know that eating the stems Yes Yeah, so yeah, so Denise was that emotion you made a motion. Yes, so I second Denise's motion to applaud the road commission and the conservation Commission for agreeing on a long schedule Yes, it's nice that they worked together to figure it out Okay Next meeting we'll hear from Oh Don't even tax collector treasure old your report from Her next Meeting which is June 10th Town clerk nothing to report at the moment But we have a lot of town halls stuff to talk about So John and Donna are here I just have to ask that Who is available to come to DRV meeting with me on Thursday night cliff is not going to be able to attend That's okay, I think it'll be fine. There were three of you last time right was it was it helpful to show support do you think? No, I don't really know We each had different ideas But I think that they heard from The full board I know Katie will have the minutes done by then and I'll make sure I hand them a copy of the draft minutes with what we talked about tonight And if you know people aren't available and unavailable Would you like me? I mean do should we be there? I? Don't have me and I won't be out of state. If you can come that would be great Thursday. Yeah This week. Yeah, seven o'clock We're here here. Yeah, John's out of state Something planned and cliff is not available. Yeah So it'd be great. Thank you, and I don't have to do an agenda because there's only two of us. Sure. Yeah, all right Donna and John show take it away So looking at the income first I want to point out that the reserve fund is the total reserve fund that I knew about when I left us down treasure And then added to that are the gifts that we've gotten since them Okay, yeah, yeah, you know from The gifts are listed here. Yeah The Scott and Charlotte passage have donated $5,000 that is not in this list. They elected it over five years So that's not in here yet But the reserve fund the 58,000 includes Not just money that the voters voted for repair and maintenance over the past few years, but it's got the proceeds from The historic Kent's coin or hot lunches over the last year's that money was moved in there Proceeds from our town the reading of our town There's a concert in play. We've got a little bit of money from that So that's what's in that town hall reserve fund And we haven't dipped into that yet, right? I don't know how it's being handled in this office Yes, I don't think it has so efficiency Vermont is They're going to pay for a quarter of 25% of the What's that stuff called John ceiling Air sealant that was blown in Yeah, and they'll also pay for lighting and they asked if I wanted to check now and I said just wait until we Have everything done. You can send this one show. Do we know how much that's going to amount to? For the air sealant, I think it's $675 or something like that and then the lighting too Lighting isn't almost inconsequential that they won't pay for the schoolhouse, which would be the most expensive lighting element to pay for For what used to be fluorescence like in the mechanical room instead of structural LEDs But not be any ornamental lighting really It's me but they'll take for the ball that goes in it. They'll pay for the ball but not the picture We'll take I'm gonna say we'll take what we can get So they'll pay for some lighting, but Okay, so the friends of town hall is being formed And that would be the group that would do fundraising going forward John and I are not part of that group. We really want to focus on the building and get the building done, right? And If you remember Christine Graham was the fundraiser person that we hired with a grant that helped us present it to the town and everything So she left us with a list of grants and foundations and I've gone through that list and I don't find much for municipalities So I don't think we're going to be seeing any sort of fundraising money coming in anytime soon No, because the Non-profit status status. They have to have bylaws and so it's it's gonna be a slow process Okay, so that's that's the in the income amount that that I'm working with Then if you go to town hall income and expenses I can show you how I keep track of expenses and I can always email this to anybody I Keep just a straight running list And then I put it on the spreadsheet and category in a category so that when we're done We're gonna know okay. How much was did the deconstruction cost? What was Structural engineering what was civil engineering how much did the board parties cost? So those are the two ways that I keep track of expenses And over the past couple of months we've been running $14,000 of expenses over our income. It's been pretty steady. Yeah, and you'll see now It's a down to 10,000, but we still have a lot of unknowns Yeah, we started out pretty good with things You know not costing as much and we know we know it wouldn't last but it was nice while it did A lot of people have really donated a lot of Time and dollars into this project But then if you look at the third sheet where the unanticipated expenses and you realize that there's 32,000 dollars of Unanticipated expenses some of which we actually voted made a conscious decision about mm-hmm like the eco-warm Engineering the radiant flooring and the Air ceiling the air ceiling so then it doesn't look so bad. You think okay. We made a decision to spend this money I mean some of it's gonna pay off later and energy efficiency like yeah, you know heating costs and everything And we know we did not realize when we started out how much fill we were gonna need for that foundation Well, and some of the fill that was brought in that the town hall Budget paid for ended up going back to the town garage So eventually Alfred's gonna have to well I have a second thoughts about that because I'm thinking we're not counting the road crew labor right in the town hall budget So maybe we should just forget about the gravel about moving that gravel money around because You know we're using the road crew. It's not coming out of the town hall budget right in the town highway budget, so It's all taxpayer money Yeah, so I decided not to worry about that Yeah, I don't think it would be a ton of money But yeah, I go warm is that the installer? No, that's a product. That's the product brick the brand Is that the stuff you had to order from? Oron so I feel pretty good about how things are going we could use a little bit more money Yeah, we could use a nice little windfall, but you know we've been so careful though Yeah, I'm eating reviewing every single. I know and when Ernie's crew started They thought they were gonna start right into construction and they ended up having to do you know prep the foundation along with John and right I think we Sol What we're still complaining about it's just a horrible winter right What's going on with Perry? We're waiting for The excavation in front of the building that Perry comes he'll come twice wants to do the footing Had in front of the entry door of the second time to do the tall wall where the stairs come down and that's it And is that in and that's all part of his you know it better be better be because we've done things that were really within the scope of his work and so I Think in the end the building is going to be what he said it was going to be That's our expectation. He doesn't have he's only got one thousand five hundred Complain about anything because we Didn't it for me even pouring some concrete and placing steel that was part of his scope Who is Perry or hurry Jeff Perry? It's a concrete. Yeah, so we did a lot of work got it. Yeah, because he was busy I think we're going to be okay And that will start when they take down the staging in the front The staging has to come down and while they're there. They're going to take down the sign you know the sign that's there that has the date on it and And Historical society is going to be paid to restore that. Oh nice. Yeah, I like that. Yeah When you say Donna that With 30,000 our decisions that we made I Understand that point I'm I'm just not court clear who we is we the town hall renovate the renovation committee No, the select board voted on I think you voted on the eco warm. Yeah, I think you voted on the sealant See the first three ones that say chimney. Yeah, that's something I think Maybe the town hall committee should have pushed back on that's too late. Yeah, it's too late now Who's how Tim house son Brooke? This this was sort of I'm not gonna name names, but This was an aesthetic historic decision to redo the chimney over there that will never work again It's just there being pretty great Right that was not a story story, but still there's work to demo it. Did they know it? Okay, so that's anyway that had to be demoed and you know So so we may very well have made those decisions I wouldn't remember that I don't remember specifics But this is I don't remember that we made a decision to spend extra money in the context of where we were running this much over budget We've always been we're moving in on You know Watching the over and I the cushion get eroded. So this is a different this is a different day We're now we're looking at it. Okay It's kind of all this kind of this is the other well, right? This is not on top of this These expenses are included in this so we're $10,000 Over we've got $10,000 worth worth of expenses over our income Right, it's not $40,000. Okay, so we have it's really about ten ten We're over ten where last time we looked at it. We were we had $800 left of cushion So You're saying the project had if you will eat in 32,000 worth of good decisions Like the weather caught up with us and now we're Over 10,000 Okay, I got it the film was expensive not just the sand inside but the gravel you talk about the backfill The drainage yeah, and and John still has a backfill from it So Yeah, I mean the town hall renovation Committees meeting the second and fourth There's Thursdays And we go over every single Detail invoice Donna's done a great job of keeping track of all the expenses and Keeping us up to date John's gonna be Making sure that her and his crew knows what they're up to and yeah, I'm just in touch with his bookkeeper. How's that?  Oh, that's what we could get for him You guys are probably had a million conversations on what to do for anything get him a director's chair That has his name yeah Well, we'll see what happens when it's back yeah And hopefully the project will keep moving forward and John's been willing to do even more time So So while Donna's here doing the budget stuff We'll have to get a set amount that is available in the town hall reserve fund from Sandra, but We wanted to explore the idea of using some of the funds that are in there currently So that we're not in the hole, right? So, I don't know how sure we do that. Maybe when we're She's already taken money out I think based on email that you sent me She's already taken money from from the reserve fund, and I talked to Denise Cliff about that You know the voters voted the reserve fund for repair and maintenance, right? We don't want to use it all but I mean I think maintenance was so neglected over there Yeah, right but the money that was voted at this last town meeting. I think should be saved for you know future maintenance If that money's already moved though, we should definitely get it on the record that we approve it Well, I think we need to find out from Sandra how she's done it right She has different like she's got a category where she's keeping track of Expenses that will go toward the grant right she doesn't know what those expenses are yeah She's got the lift in there, but there's gonna be many other expenses That we're gonna get reimbursed for And we won't you all do that with no projects looking at her emails that For now the accessibility grant expenditures are 26 150 that's for the lift The town hall reserve fund has 42 852 But that's not including that 10,000 which we agree should just be held but now she says Right later on in the day she said the town hall fund balance as of May 28th is 27 to 22 She and I got together one time with all the expenses to make sure that she coded everything right and there was Something in there they should have been in there we haven't done that recently Yeah, so but I think we do need to hold off on not using when we get to FY 20 money not using that for the renovation And we're gonna find you we don't know or you think she has already moved some money. I Don't know. I think we should maybe put that on the radar to know Get involved in the treasure stuff, right? I just want to say that she's starting out with a different number and the reserve Yeah, that's a different issue though then making sure that we right that our eyes and cross our teeth and never does things a little differently, yeah Today I was looking in the town hall file. There's also some records in the alphabetical town hall file about gifts Because apparently quick books crashed and they could never get it back right it did And I may have a backup on a thumb drive at home because oh that would be helpful because I would back it up Because I just never wanted to have to go in the cloud if anything happened No, that would be really helpful if you had that because because I have printouts of what I know It's in that front when I left But I know that yeah when that whole thing crashed. It was not good. Yeah Anyway, so okay, so we ran 10,000 all over it, but we continue to accrued expenses Well, see we I'm not done, right? No, we're not done No, we're not done. We're not done. The law is still in place, but Donna said it's not done. Well, see I anticipated I've anticipated $122,000 Expenses but by my tally we have a hundred and eleven thousand left In expenses and $11,000 left in income. Oh, okay, and a hundred and twenty two thousand in expenses But you know some of this is like side work. We don't have a number in there We've taken out like the kitchen and bathroom flooring somebody's got to fundraise for that We don't know if the septic system really we got $25,000 estimate, but we don't totally know Dan Cal and electricians that he might go to the budget So do you have in these categories that you're listening Donna? Do you what is your placeholder zero or is your placeholder a best guess? Like Bernie how he gave us a quote sure that is he's gonna stick by that no matter what We're gonna give us a quote. I mean, and that's that's to achieve. Yeah, and that's not to exceed the ones that you said Like I think you said there's maybe some site work. He said we don't know so what I'm trying to understand is Yeah, we don't have anything in here for sight work. So so that Delta of $10,000 between your estimates of expenses and What we usually we still have in the budget from understanding you there's a $10,000 Difference, but there's some right above the 10,000 there's things that Well, we haven't gotten reimbursed from some of the grants yet, so that'll go back $30,000 My arts council that'll back in just offset the maybe what's left of expenses. Well, right, but the site work, okay? Yeah, I know it's agreed that the town would do most of the site work right now Okay, that's what I was trying to get to is are there still numbers We're waiting We don't have definite. We don't have definite answers to some of the numbers correct. Well, not many We've done everything to like to move money to move expenses out of here So we even talked about I guess we have to put down a wood flooring, right? Yeah, that's part of the historic Well But you know we talked to Randy about how to finish it cheaply, right Randy Finch has been involved So the window restoration that was not a firm number. That's just that was a firm number Yeah, that's a firm number and he's been paid everything except what is it 2000 or something? Yeah, 2006 one seven And for what it's worth there and so it is a blast to go in there now and see if it's good natural light Yeah And he's building storms for them this part of the quote really yeah, I'm scratch He's really fair he's into windows I guess right I mean a lot of people have you know, they're charging us Something for the job, but they're not they're also doing a lot That isn't costing anything well above and beyond our town hall projects going to be on everybody's website Yeah Yeah, very cool Well, you know, it's just a lot of spawn on John. Yeah, I mean And that's fine But you know this local approach is Somebody has to do the work right right. I think it's strained on me a little bit. Don't you John? Oh So now he's arguing. No, he argues with me at home and he comes to meetings. He's really sweet That's the way it works. Oh, yeah, he was sweet of us Um, I don't know if you want to do any other We should be back tomorrow the third one will be coming back And they they know what they're supposed to do They're experienced good. They work on the exterior when the weather's funky. They've got tasks inside Jim O'Rearden stepped up. I'm so happy he he he was saying that The pressure tank and Controllers for the well, that's not my job. That's the call Indian River Well in spring Then he started looking at it realized how simple it was to spend a couple of minutes and he hooked it all up Oh, good.  So we're at a point now where Where we don't have a septic won't run a hose out the window or something, but love water Charming Yeah, I remember seeing you do it with your car. Yeah, so now at least The edible garden people I think have a work day coming June 2nd. Yeah, the meeting they're doing work on June 2nd I'll make sure that they're they're dialed into where the disposal field is going to go Because I don't want to have to Dig up any more plants and they might Already, there might be two or three that they got to move right now and Now we just need a permit to use the building right well and we found the deed to the building that goes back to 1930 and an opinion from julian goodrich from 1981 about the The title and and all that it was it was a really interesting letter to read because there's a lot of history in that letter I don't know. Where did you find that? No, there's a there's a town hall file in that alphabetical You kind of have to know where to look yeah well because unless it's recorded In one of the books in there actually judy rerecorded the deed So that it would be You know in Yeah, it would be in the computer system. She uses so now it's in there twice Right and the drb has this d. They have the letter from julian the right um Which i'm sure will be part of old men What comes up change that got a copy of the 1887 What? Quick plain midi where the town bought from The vestry association The town bought for five hundred dollars from the vestry society or vestry association The bottom level of that building So we have that a copy of that too Very interesting No, I think we own the building and then donna put together um a document, I think isn't it a folder Katie? To the drb Concerning some of their addressing some of their concerns um Concerns that kind of a while have arisen over the last three weeks, right? It is the this guy. No, that's notes This memo from donna's dated may 28th. It was a couple of letters There that's it with your mason. Oh, yeah, it's that one there Which was very well done. Thank you for doing that. Thank you. You're welcome You know one thing that jeremy angpan lives across the road and he'd written a letter Well, he came to the first meeting so we knew he had some concerns But you know one thing you talked about his letter was car door slamming From select board meetings to whoever well, he can hear us slamming doors Yeah, he was chit chatting, you know, and they go outside after a meeting But my point in this letter is he bought that property knowing there was a municipal building across the road Right knowing there would be people there having evening meetings so He's a very nice guy and generally supportive. I mean he was he was willing to consider him a septic on his land, but So I think it's just his way to Make sure that that there are concerns are addressed, which is fair. Yeah. Yeah So we're gonna have the parking Below the hall right in front of his house Yeah, right. Nobody's nobody's in the park on his lawn That's for sure And there's you know, there's gonna be meetings there at night just as there used to be You know, whatever time you get done. You get done kind of thing Donna you might remember this and john this hillside here Is there a legend there? Is there a reason why you can't dig back? No, there's no ledger sand For a while, we were considering locating this building on the other side of the parking lot And we had to demonstrate that we wouldn't have ledger even if we went down 10 feet And joey dug a hole 10 feet deep and it was just sand after sand So the property line the property line how far back does it go on that hillside? I'm not sure Quite a way to set the trees. Yeah Since we're in the shape I was thinking We're discussing the prospect of Digging back and making this parking lot larger and using this material Over there ie to widen the shoulder below Up Kent Hill toward Kent Hill From that so we could do you can park more off the road and then wherever else you might need it More parking here More parking here, which is a great idea. We're going to have the highway guys here Anyway, with trucks bring an excavator and just start moving that material If we can that's didn't off it was It's like it's a little out there 50 70 feet past the intersection I can't go around in Pekingbrock Oh, really? It doesn't go forever, but I was wondering how far back to the trues land, you know But that whole open area like to the wood line there. Can we go to that wood line there? Yeah, you could Yeah, is there a town forest right behind us this is the town forest we're actually on I thought that was drew lambs right behind us Okay, it's this weird shape here. Oh, okay, so we're good there. Yeah Well, it's something to consider for the future. Yeah Yeah I just want to go back to the town for reserve fund again. I'm sorry Do we want to authorize the use of The money or do we want to wait and know how much for sure is in there when sander comes on June 10th I well, I'm less concerned about knowing exactly how much is in there Because because either way whether it's whatever you think or whatever sander thinks something needs to get paid We still have something we have to pay and we agree. We don't we don't want to touch You know the bulk of what's in that account regardless of what it is But the question to me is whether sander has already moved something And I'm and I trust that if she has she would have been a very mindful of those issues And then just authorizing Wouldn't the code be on the checkers? Um I don't know because I don't know offhand what the code is for the reserve fund We can find out from sandra If she's used the money and what it was we could authorize like up to If she hasn't already we could authorize up to $10,000 to be Attributed to the renovation the current project and we want to hear about it if it's been more And we don't have to if it hasn't been done or okay, so is that a motion? Yeah Kind of a globally one, but all those in favor, please say hi. Hi. Thank you up to $10,000 Blah blah blah and she'll report to the board if there are if It's Up to $10,000 if sandra has already done that we're endorsing it Um, if she hasn't she's authorized to if if she and if she's already moved more Then I think we should know Yeah Right, and we'll let her know enough ahead of time. So once she comes on june 10 if she can let us know Yeah Okay, good right anything else on count all Stop playing visit, you know when you guys you guys driving by So trying to cruise we were biking by yesterday. Yeah, but they're pretty soon. Go switch to seven or seven thirty summer hours We just like by yesterday What key is being used over there? Well, it's it's the same key if anyone ever had a key. I had a key that doesn't work I had a key to the side door that we used to always go in Yeah, so I didn't too but mine doesn't work anymore over there And I had a key to the back door, but I thought it was the same key One of the keys is the same one because scott had a key from Well, I don't know a hundred years ago and it's working The master key stills works, but not going to happen. I guess okay, anything else for telling a joke You want to know about the town hall? I don't have the answers to Thank you guys. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you so much All right Did you want to ask me something now um What time do you guys talk about like uh the future vision for this town? Which what meaning does that happen future vision? I think it's an ongoing discussion The planning so right now I have a lot of uh current You know you're dealing with the current issues How often do you talk about where the town where we want the town to go and what that looks like? Well, I think that's our everyday discussion or every meeting discussion Does it just you ever have just a focused meeting around that topic? Maybe the planning commission does the planning commission is more in tune with you know What's the planning for the future of the town for development and? designated rural areas wildlife habitat issues crossings Um, they've had a lot of work on that um I think You know like the town hall renovation project that's kind of a looking at What the town has for the future for use of a municipal building for use of a cultural facilities location So I think it's all Increasing like the sense of community and like perhaps bringing in like uh Like businesses and I don't know even like places to I mean I know we've got some hiking trails and I know strengthening the community farmers markets. I want I want to respond. Sure. Sure. Um I think I hear I hear what you're saying And I think what you're what you're wondering about is kind of where is the vision and where is kind of where is really the Leadership and the driver for our town in the future and I would say it's with the townspeople Um, and there are places like the planning commission That are specifically charged or the conservation commission or conservation commission remember that each of these official entities whether it's the select board conservation commission The planning commission certainly each of us is grounded in statutory authority To do what we do and the select board's job is actually Managing the budget and making sure that the roads Do their job and then kind of Overseeing all of the other stuff mostly from a budgetary standpoint We don't have we don't really have authority to muck in what others are doing so And doing what we do it turns out to be a full-time job But but the but the vision and the innovation and the leadership for where is our town going I think comes from the town itself and they come to us And say we want to do this. We want to have an edible garden On town property at town hall. Can we do that? And we're just thrilled when townspeople Who aren't you know sitting down a couple of times a month spending You know on a low end five to ten hours and he spends You know 40 to 60 hours on just the business of the town but when other people who who have You know have kind of that that brain space to say let's Let's go to the select board and ask and we put an edible garden in and we say yes, please do. Thank you That's I think it's like collaboration Yeah, people have those drivers and us as support, right people contact us with different ideas Like you were here for peter's harvey's discussion about invasive species So, you know different people in town have different things that are a priority for them So we encourage them To come and talk to the select board and we're open and willing to consider all kinds of new ideas new visions And we don't like a think tank if that's what you're right looking and project by project It's kind of a covering here, but also What leads into our conversations pretty much every select board when we talk about budget for instance You know, we're concerned. We we have been aging demographic in the state Seeing in this town and so I mean people are on retirement If you're lucky your your pay is cut in half in retirement some people aren't that fortunate and much less Yet our taxes continue to skyrocket and that's a statewide phenomenon. That's a Problem that some of it we control a lot of we can't education funding we can't really but So that comes up and what's our future and what's that going to do Are folks going to be able to still remain in this town who want to stay or will they be forced out because they can't Well, and that's that's a really good question And we're worried about our elementary school. Yeah, the population drops off And we're concerned that now with this consolidated district that we're part of that lawsuit against the fighting the force merger We're concerned that it could drive closure of these element in royal elementary schools Well, it's going to up our property taxes That's going to yeah The callous town plan which the planning commission works on on a continual basis and it's renewed and updated every five years Really lays out a good vision for the town and if you ever you've had a chance and it's online You go to the callous town plan Yeah, yeah, and so it talks about It identifies historical things it talks about the current and the future It comes up with a plan it comes up with goals and then it also identifies Like who is going to make sure that that goal is met Whether it's the select board or the conservation commission or whatever Is our preservation created that plan that's on the town the big planning commission It's been developing over the years It's like a constant work in progress To move us to the future or vision and you'll understand it a lot better once If you read that the planning commission Yeah, yeah, a few years more I would much more perform a supportive role based on my past experience. Yeah, but uh, But I yeah, I'd love to have you Well and to be clear the play the plenty the planning commission develops it But they do it through a public process And then the town has to approve it And then conversely A lot of innovation that happens The select board approves Zoning gets approved by the town But yeah, the other thing I want to add to what you're saying a few minutes ago Jonathan is In what folks have been contributing is You know a lot of the kind of innovation that we that people are interested in we don't have to approve that Nobody has to approve it. I mean, you can Yeah, people can are free to make things happen. They only need approval If If they want to spend town money really half dollars. Yeah, that's dollars Other than that, I would encourage you to go to a planning commission. They're the first and third Tuesdays of the month. Okay, so problem Um, there would be one. Oh, see Katie brought this up. Yeah, June 4th. Yeah, this is the That's the town plan. I mean, it's long, but I think if you're interested you'd find that an interesting Document no, you can just go on the town website. I'm putting in the minute. I like Calis for mount.gov. Yeah cool There that'll be good reading material for you. Yeah, how long is it Katie? It's like a hundred and ten pages It's dense It really is interesting though and you really will learn a lot about the town. Yeah, yeah It's I've been gone for a little while now. So where were you? I was living upstate south of stericuse Out of new york. Yeah, what town? Skinny Alice Oh Pretty tough. Yeah. Well, I was working in design from there for about nine years I mean, uh, what kind of design design consultancy of So I personally worked on a lot of different with a lot of different clients one of the uh, One of the bigger ones most recently was uh, paul Which is a global filtration company. I know all filters. Yep. Yep. We were helping them develop a Way to manufacture biopharmaceuticals. Oh, so the most efficient way to continuously manufacture which is a process that didn't currently Wasn't currently possible So we were trying to support them to create a system that was easy to use Um, kind of a future vision for them. So yeah, so we master the design. Yes. So you move back to vermont For now. Yes Yeah, kind of focusing on uh Trying to focus on like figuring myself out to be honest, which is a hard enough thing Based on like the way things are. Yeah these days. Yeah, that's right. Um, and uh, and hoping that in doing so I can then contribute to like Other people. Yeah at a higher capacity Okay, well good to know. Thank you a lot. Thank you Good for you. Yeah All right, you ready to move on? Yeah. All right. Do we have any act 46 stuff? There is going to be another um, australian ballot vote On june 25 On the budget Yeah, thank you Great. Thanks for coming. Welcome back june 25. I think it's june 25, isn't it? What on what don't It's on the it's on the Blind budget Like we didn't take it all the way at the last one sort of thing. Yeah, so we we voted on individual district budgets, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, but By june july 1 will be officially merged and so they're gonna merge budget and all they did was add up the individual budgets Right one, which there's the end of details. Um, but that's something we should all be looking at as residents um voters There was a meeting of the legal team and representatives Last week was there Scott passage was there Because it's still it's going to spring court. Was there a skype? Yeah. Yeah, we're looking for Stay there's yeah, because there's a lot of issue with not just our district but other districts where Towns that didn't vote to take on debt are happy to take on debt. So that's one of the Yeah, that's one of the big things. How do you encumber? How do you write a budget? and encumber towns that For instance, we're taking on the the debt obligations of these towns that are part of our newly merged district, right? East Montpelier and Berlin for instance And we don't Title to that real estate yet. So how can you assign debt? When a real estate hasn't been assigned That's in the budget for instance, and so there's 2 million is 12 increase in our education Local education taxes here 2.5 million, right? To I think so That's a big deal. So so but anyway, so It would be long. I don't know. Yeah, let's see what the stream court does We didn't anticipate the lower court would do anything anyway. Yeah, it's like the breaking decision Yeah, that wouldn't happen at the lower court race. It's a press eventual and Standing things on its head and the legislature didn't do anything Unless they slip something in somewhere that I haven't heard about that as of last week they hadn't done anything There was nothing anticipated and the house is adjourned, but the senate is still meeting Is that what I heard? No, I kind of Turned it out. My issues are done and I don't care about the squabble Yeah, that's what I heard that they adjourned the house and not the senate, which is like historical In nature that they well, it's it's this first half of the biennium. So whatever doesn't get done. It can be done next year People lose lose focus on that Things don't die Okay, any cvrpc update Not really The waterbury town plan was approved their energy plan Is a separate document they did well the cvrpc Was a defective experience There were some concerns raised Because waterbury said, you know From what I haven't read the energy plan, but my understanding from the staff summaries and folks that spoke the other day last week the They're saying, you know the rich lines there are open for For energy development and there's there are no restrictions and I don't know So There was comic from people on the Worcester and Milisec side. They were like, whoa guys It's gonna impact us and they're actually they you know, they there was a Case where a telecommunications tower was shut down by the puc not too long ago because a critical wildlife Had a tank or a forest but I wanted to build the tower And rather than seeing that as instructive my understanding This is a little bit hearsay, but what was communicated to the full commission last week was That that went on in trust that they can You can still build projects up there and it's going to be all on the puc. I don't see that as the planning but We're limited in terms of what we can deny as long as it falls within state Statute steps are parameters and it falls within the bounds of our regional plan. Yeah We're obligated to approve it. I I need to look at it a little closer because I'm not sure I have to see if it falls within statutory All right, all right, great. Thank you Um Appointments and reappointments, I think we're down to the last So that list was the those that remain because of other okay. Yeah, we did other appointments. Okay, Katie put together a list remain by the way, Katie's doing multitasking tonight doing documents and minutes Two different computers going here. Oh Yeah, is that clis pretty talented? This is the town I can't do them both because I can't figure out how to project one image and also take the minute So, um, oh really there probably is a way so you type on the mac. That's right Um, all right So Katie's got a list. Um Can we reappoint? Greg Yeah, anything. Okay Inspector flumber. Oh, yeah, he said that that's fewer. Yeah. All right. So there's the list um, I'm assuming That everybody is okay with their reappointments. I've reached out to like everybody And nobody has said no So I would hang on hang on before we do that Denise. I have a question. Okay Um, do we reappoint you? Because you're drawing the salary Small, you know as select board assistant But I'm just curious how that all I'd have to go back in the minutes and look and see when That was done because you probably showed again We should again Because we want to preserve the awareness that we actually do have that position at a very small part time Oh, Katie can probably do a search. She figured out how to do a search of google minutes. Yeah. No, that's yeah That's it. So could you put that on the list? Yeah. Thank you. Yeah He was like in this And it is important you can track with your hours even those you're not looking to be compensated for Just so we have a fix for one day when you say I can't do it anymore. We then know Well, I get that that's what we're asking that's yeah, because she's you know, you don't know when you're being chair when you're being a system Well, yeah a lot of it does seem to kind of tie together um Yeah, I mean I was answering But emails and phone calls on But you you work I'm guessing 40 to 50 hours a week on Between all the meetings that you choose.  Yeah meetings that you Take probably I mean, I think it helps to have that connectivity right Right, but it's basically a full-time job at this Yeah, I asked my husband. No, it isn't it is a full time and that's something we have to think about being moved at Jonathan's point That's not necessarily sustainable is sustainable for you're doing it, but other Town's getting a good deal right now. Yeah, they are. Yeah So I just want to make sure it's on our radar in terms of the work effort outside of the chairs Yeah, I I have never thought of it Just because maybe at the end some gives a summary in One paragraph probably 30 percent of my total hours is spent on this or yeah We're above a spoon And then we know because if we have to hire staff person Then we know how many hours are expected, right? So we don't get all tangled up The Second constable that that's a vacancy. We're looking to still fill right right and Wilson was going to be talking to somebody about that But elizabeth parry, I know we just read we just appointed her as the second animal control officer But I want to make sure that Her appointment doesn't lapse because I can't remember I'm not going back and looking at all the minutes when we appointed or whether it was after I think it was after march. I think we're good. So that's already done. So that was so that's already done We don't need to do that again But we do need to appoint Everyone else on this list um, some of them Aren't done right now like the listers are voted the moderator is done at town meeting treasurer is appointed We don't do um Um, and it's now the delegate now it's not called southern Vermont isp anymore at cd fiber right okay, so do Want to just approve or re-appointing those as noted on this list or should we read them out loud either way I'm fine without reading them, but I guess they should be individual listed. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be great. All right So I would make a motion that we appoint those as noted on this List those are on the yeses. Okay.  Yeah, I have that on my On my list now, but I I couldn't get a hold of you guys He's been doing a lot of inspecting the lumberhouse. Yeah, I'm sure it's like four Well inspector of lumber that could happen with the emerald ash boron, right So you made a motion outside that okay All those in favor, please say aye And should I not include anybody who doesn't have the word yes next to them like scott bassage historic preservation commission Um, no, I'm saying I've got on my list. Okay. Do you want me to give you this list? There's a few blanks. Yes. Well, what about toby from that state police? Yeah, I'm saying. Okay. Yes. I see Okay, um I asked them both peter and toby probably the only blank you have is already No, I think we should go ahead and reappoint them. Okay. Um Okay, that was my question. All right. So we are literally reporting all of the blanks Crap, okay, except for elizabeth because we already did that, right? I wanted to make sure we're all the same And like I said, some of these are really not Reappoint their appointments or reappointments, but they're not done Now that makes sense So one the ones that are crossed off All right, let's well let's just devoted that's exposure Um Right But toby state police by the board Assuming he's okay with that. I'm sure Scott's okay with preservation or stark preservation Grazie. Yes, did toby's term really end two years ago? Um I guess it probably did. I think we've reappointed him Last I knew he wasn't ever going anyway. Yeah, it's just peter harvey who goes. Oh, you're talking about the operations manager Oh, no, I'm talking about the state police if I was your board Yeah, I was more like what was that neighborhood watch kind of stuff Well, I went I went to it once and um, it was really quite informative And if I didn't have a conflict on the day that it met I would have been interested in going They meet in one of the hospital conference rooms and um I've had it. It's very interesting. Yeah, it's very interesting. They have a guest speaker who talks about whatever Maybe it was monthly or quarterly or it's quarterly, isn't it? Paul whiteness to do that. Yeah. Yeah Jane English used to be on yeah Yeah, they might do it once a month, but For eight months out of the year or something Yeah, it was interesting, but it I had a conflict down. It's like the third Tuesday of the month or something Yeah, can't do the third Tuesday Okay, so when there was a motion in a second all those in favor, please say aye. Aye Can you oppose? I mean no So, um Did you have stuff for us on the Yeah, we already did all that Um, no, do you have anything to update us on? Do you have anything to update us on with it? The truck the one time truck The one time truck is the well the frame has been welded. Okay. It's now a formula for Being fixed for the turbo They said hopefully by the end of this week we'll have a back That went down for that's what it went down for right or turbo and then they discovered the frame was broad So then we got to regroup and The frame is now fixed. Okay, good. It's a weld. So it's And and they pass it inspection wise, okay, they said they will they will stick right. Yes. Okay Will they give us will they give us a certificate saying that that weld meets standards and all that They didn't give me anything. No, but they said they would put a sticker on it next time around if need be Okay, so I'm worried about some other inspector not Willing being willing unless there's a certificate saying this weld was made. No, I mean that thing that that Grant gave us last week will Get us through that. Okay I think we'll be fine. One thing that Grant gave us last week Grant gave us uh, I don't have it with me, but it's it was a print out of the federal Federal DOT standards To weld Okay, I don't think he handed it out to all of us. I think it gave it to you. Yeah, we discussed it. Okay. Okay, so that was that's that's good. Yeah um We talked a little bit about is that it on the truck? Uh, well, no, I'm waiting on the truck to get back. So I can get a value for it Uh trade in value So if the trade is low will we try to sell it out right like we did last time? I think yeah, we'll try to do that if it's Okay, now that's the one they were holding for us for a couple of weeks Yeah, well, I asked them if they if they could and they said they would if they would but they you know There's only three of them left. They had 11 of them. There's only three left Right, what are you saying that they're going pretty fast and the part of the issue is They hold these slots for the body builders So they've got two slots for fear field and that's the one that's the company that we'd want to use So I'm just You know, we'd like to grab that slot if we need them. Okay, so I will put this back on the agenda for June 10th and this would be um Prove consider and approve consider Consider um, and now this would be a lease It's a lease. Yes, consider lease option Of a one ton pickup I should have traded value by then Okay, but I can't I mean I don't yeah the one to go down to form the floor and look at a truck that's half tore apart Uh-huh Okay um, I Did a quick update about what I knew with road damage from all this nasty weather we've been having Katie mentioned Updated us on the Worcester road that Monday morning and then the peak and brook road flooded Was there any other? Worcester road. Yeah That was the biggest flood event that we had Where was that? Collar hill couple of culverts and then just took off down the hill and really That'll wipe the road out this side of the road. You know, it's a good three-foot gully So we spent we spent a day there hauling gravel to fix that Oh, and that was the post that janey bone put on front porch water. I'm thanking you guys. Yeah, yeah So that actually affected the Worcester road segment or the one down the collar collar hill road It's actually on collar. Okay. I'd call it the Worcester loop because it's yeah Yeah, it was okay. Yeah, it's actually on collar hill all the damage. Okay, so between that and peak and brook we must have Total of some dollars, right? I figured it was under see they gave you a threshold Regional planning commission and I figured we were under the 10,000 Oh, okay, so I'd already talked to them and said it was they asked me if it was zero to 10 I said, well, I'm sure it'll be under 10 and I haven't done the math, but I've really labor culverts equipment We have a lot of the culverts. I mean, we didn't really want to wash them. Oh, okay They just got a lot. Okay. They just got plugged and they're clean. The three out of them and then water starts falling But in the middle of the night when it's raining, right, we weren't out there to clean those culverts and right Right. Well, you wouldn't know. No, it wouldn't But I'm just saying you wouldn't have to change any culverts. We just Yes to fix the damage Um, it's been wild Yeah, I mean, then there was some other small spots here and then it was just You know, fixed from the greater So I don't think it was something for over the 10,000 Okay All right, um We went and looked at the conservation commission's meetings minutes the one that you were at about the mowing and I guess the hydroceder They're waiting for you to get back to them with some more information Yeah, they wanted to their concern was the dye that is in the mulch Yeah, I remember I brought that up and we have found out that it's food grade dye. Yeah, so it's very harmless So it's brand but there are a zillion brands out there. There's a bunch. Yeah. Yes I haven't looked at some of them. Some are like Organic and some are Yeah, conventional and right So whatever supplier Supplier that we're dealing with we're trying to buy Some with Because if you buy a truck a trailer load you get it super cheap.  So great if he can buy some we can buy some So that's the supplier we've talked to and they're they're telling us that their stuff is food grade dye So it's not toxic remind me how much is the hydroceder is here? Uh, was it 13? Yeah So where would you store all the supplies you thought I had to track the trailer? Well, that's Part of part of the issue and we do have some space in the core storage At the garage shop So we come on pallets Yeah, we tarp it maybe Yeah, I said these little bags are like two and a half foot by Like pellet bags and mice won't get after them. Oh shoot Good question. I'm not sure A little mice Yeah, it's made with newspaper the seed is separate the seed you add separately. It's not in the bag of mallets Oh, okay. So you add that to what I mean you can put whatever seed you like when you put fertilizer to Which don't say that to the concentration commissioners. They're totally against using any sort of fertilizer And I told them I said this grass will grow without it right depending on the type of soil Well, I don't think every type of soil is going to be different Right, I don't think we want it on town. So it's got to be Vermont spec without phosphorus, right?  I was supposed to just get a hold of her. I didn't get that information all today. Oh, okay So I was supposed to get a hold of her then she was going to get back with you with their Right their thoughts. Okay The the issue here They told you what they wanted and if you find what they wanted then she Just do it or just shoot her an email, right and just say it's food grade guy Yeah I've answered there. I will answer have answered their concerns. Yeah, he doesn't have a chance to do it They need to get with you that so that you can get there there, right? Well, we approve it. We were just looking for their feedback and their feedback is that it It's kind of free That was the only issue that they got to me It's our approval. It's not theirs. We're just looking to give them an opportunity to have input, right? We now know what their concerns are It sounds like you've met Don't miss the purchase So Yeah, I don't I don't know if you want to try to do that tonight under this agenda All right, so would somebody like to make a motion I'd move that we authorize the purchase of the Hydroceding unit for 13 348 and the purchase of our share Whatever the price is in the price on that exactly of the Right track the trial a load of the mulch product and we would like it to be Fertilizer free or not. It doesn't come through You had to know it's a mixture I mean you can the mulch is just by an accident Oh, it's just mulch Yeah, put the seed in it's got like an agitator in there Blender like a big kitchen to blend it. Yeah, exactly right Okay Is there a second second? All right. Well, you got to purchase a seed too Yeah, but that is all product, right? You're not going to buy a truck show over that. No, I'm not No, I mean that stuff actually has a shelf life too Yeah, you would have the same problem with mice and mice would like to live in that Oh, yeah, I have some nice faculty mice, right? All right, all those in favor please say aye. Aye Okay, um Can I we have a hundred thousand dollars left in there? Well, I think we should wait and see what saner has on june 10th because there's still bills coming in and out and Right, I mean that's the last I knew from her. It was a couple weeks ago. I was 140 Yeah, and that's what I think when I checked with her that didn't include payrolls and You know stuff like that. We were this year. We thought we were gonna push it over for sure. That's didn't we hear that last meeting? Right. Yeah, so we thought I still I still I just want to be cautious. No, that's why I'm drawing it out Because I want to make sure that we Know I was pressing her this now. We're gonna show you that According to what I'm hearing from xander. Yeah, and now she's been out sick Yeah And I know how much money I put on the work orders, too, right? So I don't I think we're watching Okay, that's good news Um Roadside mowing we went and again looked at the conservation commission's Minutes and just endorsed or approved what they had suggested which was Katie early june And so I'm assuming you're going to contact them Yeah, we have um, and the other issue is Peter harvey is gonna Do the cheerville thing on exclusion zones exclusion zone And and the caveat to that is he's got to go and talk to every neighbor He's going to come back to our meeting on june 10th and report back and he's talked to everybody He's going to be responsible for the hand cutting. That's what I was just going to say So he's going to make sure that the places last year that didn't get Mowed get some kind of clearing because people were concerned about site distances and bird oaks and So he's going to pull the journal out first and then go back and cut it That's he said he already has little seeds on it. Yes the chirp Scare us and he's trying to get the neighbors the neighbors to help him flower But he's got anything yet. He's got him back next meeting and show us that he's contacted all the neighbors Okay, so we don't have an issue So those will be put up in places that we don't want Correct. Yeah, it's like Peter harvey's and john brave dance and well, you know, they don't move Roadside move by you anyway. He's trying to put signs up I talked about but um, you know, also the uh Not we you guys spoke with them or you spoke with them about Real crew being responsible for that. Was that correct in the minutes? That's what it sounds like in the middle. So it sounded like real crew would be cutting the knot weeds So so the mower wouldn't be doing it spreading all over We do there are places I think maybe where that comes from was There are places where that knot weed overtakes our signs Like down here on pecan when you turn it off at 14 It'll it'll be very crazy. Oh, that's not speaking the size is six feet tall eight feet tall And it's over the top of it. So I do go and clear that So the sign is visual What do you weed? Yeah, it's right there kitty chains. Oh, there we go Oh, good. It says the road commissioner pointed out that knot weed growing very tall blocks traffic visibility The commissioner the commission considered options for management that commission supported the road crews cutting of knot weed for road visibility Oh, okay in those particular areas. Okay Yeah, in those particular areas, okay Yeah, in the case of knot weed on road sides without a visibility safety issue the commission did not come to a consensus on whether to post normal signs so Jury's still out on some of the knot weed stuff, but the places that you know of that You routinely take care of is I'm assuming what they meant Yeah, I mean, there's another spot on Moscow woods. Just to come on the black top Around that corner. That's becomes very Yeah, so I've done that in the past to go in there with the chains on just cut it back Okay, and we signed the grant Agreement for the Moscow woods road Yep, so that's all set Well, you know what I'm just thinking about I was driving up the Tucker River and they were like black leaf Or black trash beds like three of them in the in the ditch area on the North side Like we're Doug Lily renovated that field The cross on that other side I don't know if that was green up stuff or if that was trash dumped Now it was in a green bag with black bags But they were the way they were laid out and seemed like maybe somebody cleaned up and then put stuff and I thought Or maybe somebody dumped trash.  Do you know what they are? I didn't I didn't like open them and do a thorough inspection. I don't blame you But I did wonder about them and I was walking by And they look like and in one of them you can even see a stick poking through they look like They they look like the debris, you know leaves and sticks and I don't know That's all I got maybe somebody What I wondered is if somebody cleaned Actually, I was I was walking with a Friend and we both thought well Maybe somebody like Hulled all the trouble or the whatever invasive they want to get rid of But but we couldn't square the person who would do that work But then dump it on the road They're coming back, but it's still there No, that was a week ago. They're still there. It was Wednesday morning last week And I went walking with a friend and saw them there for the first time So maybe they're swinging by Just three black trash packs So I'll put it in the school dumpster. I guess I guess so. There you go. Make sure it's not a bad Yeah, great. Yes. Yeah, we don't have any other place to put it. Yeah All right, thank you. Thank you Yeah, yeah, somebody doesn't do d like that, but then Marco knows well, hopefully it's a good deed. Right. Yeah, it's open to not to think that way. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah Right, I don't I would not encourage anybody to open up the bags and no, I know I wasn't doing that It was well after green it though. It was just last week that they showed up So we're on Traffic ordinance and stop sign And I thought that actually a couple of people were going to show up for this, but they They didn't um So You'll see where There were some updates to this made in the fall of 2017 We never did anything with it Road names were added To the town highway numbers and I think rose you had mentioned something On this when we were looking at it last time But um So here's how this came up. I had a request by A resident to put a stop sign at the intersection of Kent Hill and Pekingbrook Which I think we mentioned last select board meeting Um Then somebody else said they didn't want to see a stop sign. They'd rather see a yield sign But and I think a lot of people mentioned that You know that can be pretty dangerous if people aren't paying attention. We need something there as a practical matter I think what we said is a practical matter put a stop sign there But there's going to be pushback to only put a yield sign So I mean it does when we get to make the decision But I think there does need to be something there whether it's a yield sign or a stop sign Either way is fine with me Um I think either way you're probably going to get pushed back to right Well, I think either way they're going to yield and not stop. So That's why we said put a stop sign. Put a stop sign Right, you know, put, you know, put the strictest standard People do what they do with stop signs, right? So in making In making amendments You put stops, right? Well, so a yield sign works the same way though, right If they don't yield, they don't yield Right, so this that whole issue brought up the traffic Ordinance which needs to be updated There's sections in red that you'll see And in order to amend an ordinance you still and I look this up You still have to go about it the same way as if you are adopting a brand new ordinance with the um Advertising it in you know putting it in notice, um Voters have or five percent of the population can Ask us to reconsider this and put it out to a vote has to be done within 45 days So it's the whole the request for reconsideration has to come from 40 45 days of tonight No, because we aren't ready to do this because we really need to review it And then this request for a stop sign needs to be put in The change to the ordinance so I thought Right, so we could do it all at once But I'd like to get it done Um, if we can at our next meeting on the 10th Yeah, so that's what I was curious about. So what we have I mean what we had in a folder to me I think it's the wrong one. Yeah, we didn't I sent you the This one I only have the one that Judy sent though, which I think is older Yeah, that's not the right one Yeah, I don't have I didn't get the attack any attachment at the site from that one Oh, I thought I sent it to you and you said you didn't get it. It's an income So maybe it's there now Um, well anyways, I'll get it to you because toby had an electronically So I'll forward it to you. Okay. Woodbury mountain room seem my trucks go by my house They've been ripping up woodbury mountain room since we did all that work on there, you know We had a small washout at the bottom of woodbury mountain road And I've heard people say that there's a washout further up onto the class four part But at that time I wasn't able to get out there and fix it Whether they're like these guys are hot They'd like to love it. Yes. Well, there was actually in my box saturday Otherwise it is one player. Oh, he's not killer. So that's probably why you see them Okay, but I saw them previously last the previous rainstorm Coming south heading north Relatively clean coming south with the jumps on their hood. So yeah, they go down my road Yeah, I think we'll bring out the road. So I couldn't go check it out We did all that nice work. I was worried they're gonna wreck it Right. Well, we did the work down low By the first two houses, right, right That was part of that grand There's no challenge for them. So John So back to the ordinance. Yeah Um I can put on the next then agenda adoption of revised traffic ordinance But we're going to need to put something in it about the stop sign So we can probably do that All at the same meeting. I'll just have to take that Document that toby sent and I think it's in word and put in the addition of a stop sign at the intersection of Kent hill and Um peek and brook out forward it was also email from toby around. There was also uh request to change Add signs and that on that same document In this one corner of that road Yeah and That you're probably going to get pushback from we talked about what we're not doing that. We decided Yeah, we're talking about saying that That's what was recommended during in that yeah document that you're talking about Okay, so we need to we're not doing it when you take it out of that document That's all because that's in that document. You can't just put it in there and without changing that if you don't want to do the All right, so maybe I'll coordinate with you to do a quick review or something Of this Sure. I mean told me send that document to me too. Yeah, it's in there about the The both both intersections need signs Okay, so if you don't want to open up the can of worms of adamach you might want to take that You don't need to take that out. Yeah, okay, so katie's going to put in the ministry move the language and the ordinance about signage and adamant Haggett road and center road entering adamant Is they were a document that has the town highway number and then the street name Now, no, but I'm just saying Aside from that isn't like because I would have liked to clarify this except I don't know All those numbers the state's highway map only has numbers, right? Yeah, right Right, stay holly map has numbers And I have a sheet that gives all the numbers And the name. Okay. Rosa's talking about that. That's what I was talking about Because I read this and there were a few areas that I would have liked to clarify, but I don't know Yeah, even that document that I have is not super clear clear because it's Some roads are named together That's the same my way number So it's a little bit of a challenge. This is the way it was done a hundred years ago Probably could be we looked at is there a way that you could scan that document and email it to us Or if you can't or if you're not it's in this office somewhere I'm sure it is If you know what you're talking about then maybe you could get Barbara or Judy or somebody to scan it and email it to Slepard road road where you look at the one online that we had earlier that doesn't have what this one does I thought the one that I had Was dated in 2018 this one is 2017 I don't remember if you know something that's 2018 Listen, this one is better. This is the one John can work on right. Yeah. Yeah, this one is better Right with the names Right, and did you check the names against the highways numbers? I haven't seen this new document Okay, but this is the one new update. Yeah, this one is cool. This one is better Um This is the one that tells me just emailed us today. Yeah This one is contains a lot of town highway number 46 is bliss upon road. They're already in the last minute. Yeah last meeting's folder. Yeah Oh, I thought it looked familiar, but but not but not today. Can you take a look at it? Like it says town highway I don't think he sent it to me. Oh, I thought you just told me he did No, he sent me the other document about the signs Right about the signs and what was recommended. Oh, I didn't see that Those are the end. They're all in the end. Sharon's brother read it The the yellow highlight is the change. Okay, so then you have this document then Or or some parts of that the new upgraded ordinance. We're talking about the road ordinance, right? Yeah, that's what this is I don't have that that's what I'm saying. I don't have that Is the recommendations for the changing of the signs. All right, I'll forward you Toby's email. Do you want a hard copy? Sure So So except with except so I think what we're talking about is We already to look at this We've talked about taking out that suggestion that we put a stop sign In adamant and adamant we and we have specifically decided not to do that And we've already had that conversation as a board And now I think tonight we're having the official conversation about putting a stop sign or a yield sign At the intersection of Pekin and Kendall, right? And And we're talking we've Talking about stop sign, right and and are we do we that gets incorporated into this? Yeah That do we vote on and then we vote on that next week or do we have to learn that tonight? I think that um We shouldn't burn it tonight because we didn't warn it right. Yeah, right. We just so we were going to talk about it um But I think next meeting when we're looking at the whole Ordinance that's when we vote that's with that additional change Take account that other issue Then we vote on then the select board votes and we'll And then 45 day clocks are right, right? Got it That's the process right which always seems backwards to me that you vote on something and then the process works backwards But it is what it is So just for my own use Isn't this the same as if we ever wanted to change This process is the same as if we wanted to change speed limits No, well, no speed limits are yeah because the process would be this No, we said the speed limit local speed limit, but we have to set it within the statutory right the state requirements So if we try to set a speed limit below 35 we have to do a traffic study, right? Because this is what we're going to do And then just realize that that's appropriate Right But we can we can set a speed limit down to 35, right? That's the Q that and then we can do is so Jonathan could do it traffic study The one who was just here Yeah, well the CVRPC does it right. Oh, yeah, because they've done so did you have something in mind? No, I just hear a lot of people chatter back and forth about changing speed limits in different locations around Yeah And so I just wanted to have that process Right if this was the same process we'd have to follow to do that right we asked our um And I just found actually the email from That whole discussion a few years ago where we asked to have legislation introduced To be able to do things differently and To be able to lower speed right 25 without doing a traffic study and it didn't go anywhere But just somebody really wanted to there is a there is a process So Could you Katie if you find uh adamant road because there's that bend on admin What I was talking to trade martin at the state house a couple weeks ago And that's 35 at that bend Where is it 30? I think the bend is 35, isn't it right in the village No, as soon as you come to the top and you take a left right where that was there's a 30 Oh, there is a 30 there. Okay. Is that in there? Should we find it? Should we find it using the word adamant? Like do you see it's not like There's you know, there's not a 10 out of 8 57 a maximum speed That's a stop sign A 30 miles per hour beginning at a point 1,300 feet northeasterly in the intersection. Is that where you're talking about john? That year is that it Intersection this high town highway six is that uh laning ridge Maybe no Northeastern northeasterly To 46 is that laning ridge? Yeah 46. So you're right for us But I thought it was 25 froze down the hill Well, we should go down the hill maximum 25 intersection of six they're standing To oh, okay. I see to 1300. That's by bar weed. Yeah, then it goes. Okay. So that's all legit. Okay And I think I guess I would like to see us put in Where it says town highway six there put in the name of the road Yeah, until I was where is it? Is that something you can do on this guy? Yeah, I've opened as a google doc I'd rather open it as a word doc. No, but can you go in where it says? Wherever wherever it says in the text, right wherever it says town highway six for instance, can you go in and put in parentheses? Yeah What john highway six is right? I could do that's what I was talking about mansion it up. Yeah, I can edit it once I have the translating sheet Well, you have it kind of here because it's actually does go it's doesn't in some place Yeah, as he goes through every seat. It's not cross-referencing. It doesn't right. Yeah, that's cross-referencing Okay, that'd be great I think the reason this is totally inside I think the reason Denise that we pass it first and then people get 45 days Because it locks down the absolute clarity what we're gonna do And until until then it's just discussion. Yeah, but other things you don't Do that way other things we have the discussion and then vote. So I don't know it's just weird to me Well, but we could when you put it on the agenda We'll have a discussion. I mean it could be discussion and approval of revised Traffic ordinance and if people want to come and talk about it. Well, then right and then they can then we then they have an issue And then we can say, okay, we're not gonna We want to do further Investigation. Yeah, blah blah blah. Well, then they have 45 days and we can revisit right Well, we won't we wouldn't approve it We wouldn't approve it if somebody comes with a legitimate issue No research sure, but I'm what I'm saying is we approve it say nobody comes. Yeah, right, and we approve it That'll have 45 days and then we can revisit it right. Yeah, yeah And revisiting means we can amend it Yeah, because I mean Usually people find out at the last minute or after the fact and so I think we're pretty responsive to So those roads that we have 30 mile per hour speed limits of those do those meet the steps choice did we do Must have been way back when I remember Clyde Cassidy and I forget who else did uh, maybe luster toby I think they they were on a team of people that drove around town and counted houses and that's how I think that's how they did It was a counted houses And however many houses on a road helps determine the speed limit and Yeah, which could probably could be recapitulated. I'm guessing. Yeah, it could be for multiple reasons. There's new house There's more new houses now. There's no right, you know the villages are yeah, like the speed limit on my road is 35 pink moly road That's really Yeah, well, it's also it's not a road you want to go 35 miles No, I don't think I mean that was Oh, yeah, we were just talking about that the road traffic on our road now is Three times what it ever used to be people cut through people cut through Huh, because they cut through our road to go to. Yeah. Anyways, that's off the top of the topic. Yeah, I love topics All right, so moving on so Clip was going to do some of this but since you can't join us tonight um this public service department Vermont microcell interest survey Um, you put that in the file, right? So what this is is The public service department Is asking for input If town if town would be interested in Having these microcells Where'd my paper thing going? Microcells in locations in their town the cost is $1,800 annually for each one And it looks like You could have them Wherever you might want them. So I was thinking and I talked a clip about it Um, you know, maybe for emergency management stuff Maybe you want one at the town office the town hall Town garage in the school there's some kind of active cell reception because those are all of our emergency management like the schools are um Emergency shelter the town hall will be an emergency shelter. This is command central Getting a hold of people at the garage would be important And I don't know all presumably those are all places that right now don't have cell service correct School gets too hard Right this would be actual cell coverage. So anyways just by filling out this survey doesn't mean you have to do it but um These are two g these are old things that have been laying in a warehouse And I thought they got beat up on it by some of the finance So I can fill this out just as it is just a survey. Um I would just just at yi these these is there's a Public dialogue going on not only across the country around around the planet About the install of these mini cell towers. Isn't that what david hilly was talking about it when he updated us on the cv fiber stuff I don't remember what david was. I hear I don't know about that maybe I mean that micro cells are used to infill Where you don't have fiber is that where they put the little tiny things on they put things on tops of the poles and and the 5g one is the controversial not the 2g but Just f y put on your radar. It's becoming a controversial issue the 5g is pretty serious stuff that comes off of it Oh, I mean the microwave what they call that radiation Blah blah blah. Yeah, it's real. It's real. It's the real deal And it's been basically exempted from everything without any health analysis and kind of like if we're doing the tower stuff Yeah, it's it's like that but but these hype that tower would have been at some level Although that's that's very close to it some level of elevation These things are at these are about inundating the street level and you're in your school is what I'm thinking Not all parents may be happy with that. Oh, I see why I see you may want to Well, I think it's just looking for ideas. It's just a survey. Yeah Um, did they ask what spots to put them in? I just cautioned about this. Do you want to fill it out? Or you do you want to we could work on it together, you know, okay So you have to pay every year for it. Yeah, it's $1,800 annually per year. There's a meter, right So maybe if you guys want to authorize John and I to fill out the survey and submit it I don't think I'll take us more than 10 minutes to fill out And I just think we need to make clear that we're only Considering 2g at this point. We're gonna go to 5g. It's another conversation Do we need it though? I mean, I don't think we need any of this stuff But the only people think we do right and the only thing that I can see that it would be helpful as an emergency And the landline went down, right? Because we have landlines, right? There's landlines and have radios So maybe we don't really need it So we can fill it out based on whatever Does the school have a satellite phone like what is the emergency plan? I think they have the radio Two-way radio They can get a hold of Well, no, actually they'd be here they used to have for you what happened They they we lost contact with the buses and the school. Why I don't know for sure why That's I can guess Do it with the camera going. Yeah, no, you know, I don't I can't talk to the school Well, I we can bring that up. That doesn't make any sense I brought it up to the superintendent like every year I go to have a meeting with him And say why can't I talk to the buses? All right. Well, particularly in the winter time We can ask the school board. We have a new we have a new on the color reform school board And uh, we're hopefully there'll be a reformed You make a note on the new superintendent Future superintendent. Yeah current guy's going away. Katie's going to make a note on the to-do list And maybe we can get that changed. We didn't know that or we could have maybe tried to help intervene Which is important. No great last winter's thing. And by the way, I did communicate by email About the tires to school board to our school board representatives about the need to get on the agenda the tires There was it was in a mix of Issues and I remember that they were responding on the tire. They're responding everything else But I remember I've been pastoring them. I'm worried about them going to contract and this isn't in the contract It's gonna probably be an upcharge It's my guess because didn't make safe tires is an upcharge Study studies They put those other tires on because they last right I would think that they would want to have some good tires On when they're transferring a bunch of kids around the world. It's about money, man. It's just try to enterprise Or of course, we put chains on Well, they need to have But you want studded snows on the front Most of the problems I have with school buses. They lose traction Trying to take off because I stopped but what happened on lightning ridge was no steering traction Right and no braking the right and when you don't see the time I was saying the majority of the time One of us has trouble is because it didn't get started right And if you had chains on the rear He could tell you would go well if they had studded snows and maybe chains also But if they had studded snows all the way around They'd be a lot safer All right, well, it's on the to-do list to see about why you can't be in kind of that doesn't make any sense Yeah, I mean for years we obviously That's what I thought I just assumed that it was still that way I'm just going to say part of the struggle has been With this current administration that's about to leave Has been we are in charge of everything They took away the local websites at the elementary school no longer. They have control of that Everything gets sucked up to the main office. They have their own everything's up there. It's hard to navigate Everything's more cryptic and and Even right down to the school operations. They were actually saying that they owned the school back then We know they don't know but right and so this is all part of that Fortunately so back to the survey John and I can fill it out and we can say We don't want to If that's what you're I I think it doesn't hurt to express interest as long as nothing we're doing is definitive and Create a conversation. I would just want to Ask Oh, yeah, I mean like I said, this is just a survey, right? So we don't need to say no now, right? But I do think we should keep having a conversation. Yeah No, I agree Um update on RFP for IT services Cliff and I were so surprised at how many RFPs we got he was going to put together this document so we could all kind of score it But now he's not going to be able to do that for a while. Right. So I think we need to put off Making a decision. I mean, I there's nothing we need to let the bidders know because I couldn't put that Miscellaneous that schedule which yeah, it's way off from what I understood it was Well the schedule got all Off-track anyways, and now it's going to be off-tracking here more. Um, I can talk with cliff and I think he can probably manage to send out an email to all of the people that submitted rfp saying Due to this issue blah, blah, blah We're going to be delayed Four weeks or three weeks or whatever we think or whatever he thinks Is reasonable for him it is covered Yes, I think that's good We should be aware of whether I don't remember whether rfp asked for a bid that was good for x number of days But I do know that it is in some of the bids they said this is good for x number 180 days Yeah So moment I'll double check those so that he doesn't have to do that. Katie's speaking being a list of to-do Yeah, we just want to make sure that we're staying within the right right good point. Um So that means that we would not need to meet Next Monday night june 3rd because that's what we're going to do. We're going to go over the rfps and right and um All that stuff so if you don't think we need to we don't need to meet next Monday night I'd like to see close summary I gotta tell you that I look at I I focused on You know, okay, how far away are they and I focused on price and I focused on clients like one had BLCT I mean, right, but I don't know. I mean all the technical stuff. I would rely on his expertise and knowledge I mean that's there's one person one entity said from hot cloud. Did you see that they their own four gigs? I do think that Some of that stuff. I don't know more terabytes regardless of how we bite this You know take this forward. We're going to need more time But it's a good reminder That we are we're kind of one deep on this issue. Yeah, and so you said that last time Yeah, so my question my question is whether There's anybody in the office staff who has technical expertise who could say is it Maybe maybe Sandra. I don't know. No, I don't think so. Not you See if you might have more Just okay This is the this is the function we need the you know, this is what we need right? We've already asked them to do that. Okay. Yeah, and then that last staff meeting last week That kind of becomes the backbone right of how we're scoring them Well, it's you know, I asked them all to take a you know, because they have their own little staff meeting right? And I asked them to look at the rf You know the rf and give us their recommendation of what they think You know if it's rb tech, but how do they feel about that going forward? so They should be on it and I think they were planning to come The meeting I know Judy was going to come to the meeting on June 3rd But now she's if we're going to postpone that then she won't need to What I'm I'm concerned and this is maybe a gym gym barlow question It's not strictly legal, but you know to what extent has there been challenger even litigation in rfp processes of municipal level around Objectivity of Reviewing bits, you know we put ourselves and I think it's good into a very formal process and so When you when you say well, we chose rb tech or we chose, you know, oh and the reason was why the reason and the rationale and having a very um clear precise answer clear and and being able to demonstrate that we went through an objective thorough process Not just well, I think maybe that that's where the scoring the scoring group That's exactly where that comes in right is then it forces us To that rather than this one was the shortest thing. It was really easy to read and it seems really good And that's what I didn't really understand so That was really expensive and not available on holidays Well, if that's actually true that's those are the kinds of and it's not There's no harm in backing into your scoring grid and saying I saw this. I didn't like it. Good. Put it in there So that you it shows up Well, unless I think we if if the bids are good for a while, let's take our time Yes, um and do this, right But yeah, we want to make sure right the other thing to make sure of is that we're communicating with them in the way That we said we would right. Yeah, that's another process that if you don't follow you get Dumb Okay scoring grid Question for jim As to schedule and delays With delays Okay, Katie's taking way too unforeseen circumstance. Katie's always makes me a nice to-do list. So that'll be all right Gee, I I I mean, we would want we would want quick to be okay But I think it would be okay to say that the person you know cliff who you've been corresponding with is Out of commission temporarily Yeah, yeah, and yeah, I'll just run it by him what he wants to say. Yeah Okay All right, um So let's go on to my quick update so we can do all these minutes instead of accumulate it All right, um next meeting, which is the 10th Woodbury fire department's going to come with their contract which is due July 1st And that's going to include that amount that got voted in at town meeting So this one that we just talked about we're going to postpone this June 2nd third meeting um The volunteer appreciation dinner We can just about Yeah Yes, we can go in at the end after we do the minutes. Yes, nobody's leaving here for those minutes. Okay Okay, you have to cut out um because of that discussion. I want to talk to you about hay or something About hay. Hey Okay, um I Spent I can't even tell you how many hours trying to make that doodle pole thing work Well in a roundabout way, I must have the original way to do what you went through the email addresses right into the doodle pole I entered 91 email addresses 13 times and it wouldn't work. So I finally Used the link thing Um and put it into an email From gmail 91 email addresses again um And then barba found some that I missed so she did it too. She added some more names anyways So then I went to the doodle pole to confirm the date And apparently that didn't work I'm never doing do the poll again. I just say we're supposed to make life easier. It made my life Miserable for two days and do it for a while and then I I hope that at the end of the process you learned is the easy way and in the next right So then I come back and I do it again. It's like anyways Barbara has drafted a very nice invitation A reminder invitation which will confirm the date that will go to everybody But I based it on the number of participants On a specific day, I didn't look at names and anything. I just okay. This is the one that most people can come Um mo's backyard is going to do it. All right So I'll be in contact with them um So two days before june 13th sweep the flow is Two hours before the party Oh Two to two hours. Yeah, I'm going to work with um Judy said that right now because we're in between Tax season and school elections that she's going to let me use Barbara to help me get this all set up Because Barbara knows like where to get tables and chairs and Boy, how many people do you think I'm thinking like 40? No problem, right? Yeah, yeah Um So stay tuned. I'll send you know that email will probably come out, but I'll probably have Barbara send it out Um Count officer repairs I've been in contact with Andy Felice He's been after people for bids. We have one bid from iron horse. That's $2,500 But it's likely that when they take the roof off in certain places, they're going to find rot So we have to decide now if those people are going to fix it Or if Andy's going to fix it Oh, Andy does it we'll do this guy at the same time. No, he might fix the rot Oh, I see. Yeah He'd do a better job. Yep um, I'm working with nick emlin on the revisions to the local emergency operations plan So hope to do that at our meeting on June 10th That just needs to be you have to do it annually, but There's just some stuff that needs to be updated names and phone numbers and things like that um the cemetery commission wants to us to Talk about popular hill. He's playing. That's he's with me Now children This is how it starts So our folks available at six o'clock on June 10th. Yes. Are you available at six on June 10? It's a Monday you're supposed to be On Mondays, I never do anything on Mondays, but because I crack the whip, right? Well, I know you always get something for me on Monday That's right Is that a work day for you? Uh, no, okay. Okay. Okay. So and Jim Barlow's going to come And that's cemetery commission. That's the cemetery commission to talk about popular hill. Yep Okay minutes Anything else you guys want to know for me that I didn't report back on simple Okay Okay, let's start at the beginning Katie Can we just go through March and vote them? Yeah, there's just some of their So we have March March 18 March 18. We go there Did you have it? I've got to ask. Do you have something anything else? Yep, thanks for showing up. Thanks Good night Oh, thanks again for getting this back Excuse me, there's no notes in each choice scroll through so you can look at them I put notes in I know Sharon This particular guy doesn't oh this baby. This one doesn't have any notes. That's good. Oh, no, there it is. Oh See where it says at the other sentence the yeah, should be they yeah And then just in a new paragraph. Oh, I didn't go to this one I didn't read that one And then it says The messy meaning whether this would Now we're doing main pudding. What yeah would mean pudding Wouldn't mean coating It's a new type of pudding Okay, and then Yeah, then I don't remember how many I would just say several And there was oh, I know at the top. Is this the one for you? Can you go back to the top? Can you go back to the top? There was somewhere I don't know. Was this Seven minutes or which one it was but you had toby listed. No, wasn't this one. You had toby listed as town manager Yeah, I think you're you corrected that though Okay, something you made a note. She corrected right. We have to teach Denise how to make the changes Yes, you do All right Is that it? Yeah, okay March 20th. Oh, that's the one where the town manager thing says No, and he's not when he came to talk to us when he came to talk to us. He was speaking as President Toby Talbert president of East Montalera fire department Yeah, that's good. Yeah, this is where they Changed the name to cv fiber Is that good and I'll make all the I'll leave them up there till I get home. Okay So now we're into are we on to april? Yep, april 11 april I think there's a 15. Is it 11? I thought there was 11, no It wasn't 11. Something 11. I broke it in all of my arms. Oh, here it is. Look Oh Oh, yeah to edit. Oh that was that fun meeting No, that's good. Yeah, this and bruce johnson had made a Oh, no, I lost him hearing Oh, my puppy didn't eat Um I know don't think the worse. No, but I've had it happen before they pull him out of your ear Um, you know, can you help me make the I wasn't at this meeting. Yeah, I know bruce johnson and probably rose will remember but he made a comment That the fire department hadn't didn't give us um The capital budget Do you remember that why don't we why don't we can we just let this one? Can we just not approve this one tonight and let katie take a step just drafting something to incorporate for Right, but I need help on what it was remembering how it was because you just did you take your you took some notes at that meeting? um So we don't have to do this one tonight if we get everyone else is done, but um There was a lot there was a lot and I might have made a note too. I can't remember Yeah, I But I think it would be important for it to be in the minutes because it was a um A big deal that might Because I said that All right, so let's leave this one Okay Bruce johnson made a statement that the fire department hadn't given us the capital budget Well, it says in here that set said there was poor communication As far as I'm concerned for in the department not letting select boards know all the costs of doing business Right. What are you referring to? No, and nobody said there was poor communication. Everybody said there was poor communication um But bruce johnson specifically pointed out and I can ask bruce what he said um If we don't have it is that an accurate statement of what Ty said we we know what to give you and what not to give you. Yeah pretty much pretty much I.e. We're not going to be as transparent as you would like us to be no what he was saying This is why I redrafted it um He wasn't saying he wasn't trying to be transparent He was trying to say and you know that this is how you you know, you've been through this before with other whatever Management They think that they're doing you a favor By we're not going to put this out there because then you're just going to give us a hard time And you're not going to want it this way and you're not going to want to do it And so blah blah that was basically what he's saying is they've learned from experience Tell us everything what to put in front of us and what what's going to fly and what's not going to fly Basically, what do you say? Oh, okay, and so I said, okay so Now you own that when you when you make that decision You've made the decision all by yourself Without bringing it forward for the board to discuss so that so that we can own the decision You owned the decision all by yourself because when we when we said we would take money out of the reserve fund So that the budget didn't go up so much. They had they already had plans for that money, you know, I'm talking about Oh, I know what you're talking about. I agree with that. Yeah, so boy, it must have really hit the family You said that yeah, well, we all kind of said that it wasn't a good move to make Seth backed it up um Anyways, all right, so let's leave these till Next time to we can I don't have any I don't have any direct quotes from when that goes along with the same thing what we're just talking about that they made Decision not to give us information Without what they don't realize they're doing is they're owning But I'm not owning it Then they're mad about it. Right. They're still putting it back on us even though Anyways, if we want to get all this stuff done tonight. Yeah, so I like your idea. Just ask Bruce Well, thanks for that briefing. Yes All right, next is 15th. This is one of the road meetings, right? Just went in moldville. Is this sound right bros?  I like I liked brain. I like brain pelchuk Okay, everybody good with those All right, it's just the 22nd. Yeah, it still says brain Yeah, yeah, she's a pixel and they don't report directly to fema. They go they report to cvrpc But that reports to fema. Okay Just for clarification for future people Katie, can you open it with the format that we see when we open it where How come we're not getting that header where there wait, there it is. Oh, yeah, Denise. That's what that's what that's what you need Is that I tried that and it didn't work suggesting I tried that and it didn't work. Did I have that header? I can see you're lurking about john and i'll say her name so you could go ahead and Suggesting and that's saying these words strikes on highlights. Oh, I know It's just just in this moment. Good. I think it's gonna be all right. Okay, so let's go. Oh, oh, is that why? It's just John Gray, but like you might take it. Okay. Let's keep moving. Okay. Hey, that looks good Ready good with those? Yeah, thanks payers two words. I don't think it is. I see it. I see it showing up there You can change it I don't know how to for free to blow something up. Yeah, don't I'm not touching anything. Don't look around but I'm touching anything I see you so you saw my change there. Yeah, I changed it to concern for a minute. I thought you wind up set bolder. No, no, no To Yeah, that's what yeah, I wasn't sure what to do here actually with the word determining. Um, where was I? Oh, oh The group I was that design professional were involved in determining. Yeah, the plan that was submitted Okay, I'll try that other feature again, but I tried it today or yesterday or something and it wouldn't work 13th this might be the last one Should be the last one. I'm not sure I got that right, but yeah, that's just thing It's a bad mulch would mean using question newspaper And I just changed it to he proposed using crushed up newspaper as mulch. That's really what we're talking about, right? Yeah, that's kind of shredded newspaper It's not I mean, it's a product. It's a processed product It's not like he would just shred newspaper and use that. I think that I would call it especially made product So it's a mulch product derived from newspaper. Yeah Are you typing in there John? I see your cursor. I'm afraid I'm just I'll share and do it. Okay, but it's not really a general kind of thing Yeah, this is how Do-do-do things happen Sharon's gonna be like, no, I remember last you're changing that. No, you didn't. John, you didn't share Well John, you guys, it's a good grounder. Thank you. That particular dad It's rocking it that All right There we go So would somebody like to move to approve the slate of minutes So move except for the emfd one except for the april 11th one Except for april 11 Is there a second Okay All those in favor, please say aye Aye I am going to abstain from the april 15th one because that was the meeting I missed I know if it's easier, it doesn't really matter I suppose Was it grammatically correct? And then so we're going to work on you're going to So we need to vote All those in favor, please say aye. Aye So you're going to connect with Bruce on the question Yeah, and Katie's got it on my to-do list Now you can make your motion I'd like to ask To a motion that we go into executive session for about 10 minutes to discuss Real estate matters that you refuse to discuss Um, and you can get that statute Katie from 935 For the minutes Yeah