Live from San Francisco, California, it's theCUBE at VMworld 2014, brought to you by VMware, Cisco, EMC, HP, and Nutanix. Now here are your hosts, John Furrier and Stu Miniman. Okay, welcome back. We're live in San Francisco, California, VMworld 2012. This is theCUBE. I'm John Furrier and my co-host for this segment is Stu Miniman, analyst at Wikibon.org. We're pleased to have star-studded guest, Martín Casado. Always brings the energy. Day three, we need to get that injection. Formerly of Nasira, which was purchased by VMware and that huge deal everyone talked about. Feels like 20 years ago, two years ago. Welcome back to theCUBE. Martín, great to see you. Hey, it's awesome to be here. Thanks for having me. Looking good doing a selfie in theCUBE. Stu, it's nice. We'll post that later. So I got to ask you, we were just talking prior to coming in. This is, again, another year of SDN. I mean, finally. Well, next year is going to be the year of SDN. Is it going to be this year, next year? This happened in the local area network days back in the 90s, the year of the land. Next year. What's the story? Is it here or not? What's the deal? That's a good question. So I think if I have one high-level point for this VMworld, which is the last seven years, it's coming in the future. It's almost like I feel like I've been leading people, going over the mountains. I'm like, I swear, over that next mountain, that is the time for network virtualization. That's the time for network virtualization. I promise it's there.  So the dam broke six months ago, and we're arrived. So now, this is the first VMworld. We've arrived. I mean, and you just look at the commercials, right? I mean, we're at $100 million run rate. We've got wins in every vertical. We've got over 150 paying customers. I mean, it's a big deal. Now this is a real business and a real momentum. It's a shift from this kind of evangelical notion to like, OK, people are using it. Why are they using it? How do you enable sales forces? What does this mean to the channel? I mean, this actually now becomes more of a business issue. Let's go back and rewind. The dam broke six months ago. Just describe that moment. Where were you? What's happening? What's specifically broken? What happened? I mean, what specifically take us through that? Those first couple steps. So maybe I'll provide just a little bit of history, which is OK. So Nacero was founded in 2007. So I actually kind of left my defense, and I went. And I founded Nacero with Scott and Nick. The first version of MVP came out in about 2010. But it didn't have support for vSphere, right? So then in 2012, we got it acquired by VMware. And about nine months ago, did we have a supported version of NSX that supported vSphere that kind of had a lot of the bells and whistles. Since then, we've grown the customer base to over 150 paying customers and $100 million run rate business. And this is in nine months. And by the way, like the core sales team, we just added NSX to the price list for the core sales team in June 6. So that just started. So what we're seeing is we have a viable product to market. We've got a sales team that can sell it. We've got massive customer adoptions and many verticals. And this has all happened in the last nine months. So it's just a tremendous amount of momentum. So I got to ask you, I know Sue's chopping off the bit, but I want to ask you, EMC had the same issue with Extreme I.O. A lot of hype with Flash and just undirected availability. They just, you know, the dump truck of dropping all the products in their existing install base. How much was that VMware starving customers versus product market fit in your opinion? Yeah, no, no, that's actually a great question. So I actually think that we're actually sales limited, right? This is software. We have a direct sales force. These are direct deals. A lot of these are in production. Actually, I was talking with Andrew Lerner recently from Gartner and he talked to 15 of our customer references. 10 of them were in production. So this is a good statistical sampling of them in production. And so I think that there's a real need. There's a real product market fit. And now we just need to find the right use cases to be carried by a sales team into the customer base. So Martine, you know, one of the proof points for me is the FUD in the marketplace is deafening. Everybody out there has said that, you know, the architecture, it doesn't scale.  I mean, scale is, you know, mentioned in every sentence. So can you kind of address that? Why is that being said out there? And what's the reality?  Like, I heard actually recently that NSERA was started in 2004, which is not true, because being the one that started it, it was in 2007. I heard that MVP has been around for seven years, which is not true. I actually contributed a lot of the early code, so I wrote the code and it hasn't been out that long.  Can you write the code? Yeah, I was going to say, I'm just saying. Right, so there's just been so many threads and so many narratives by so many people.  I mean, some of our early customers, by the way, we've never lost an early customer. Some of our early customers were development partnerships. I mean, like, actually, in one customer, I personally remember being there in writing code, I liked to fix stuff while things were happening. So, you know, you have early product in market with customers and you always have issues, whether the scale or performance or stability or whatever. This happens in early code development. And so I think what's happening is I think that people will cherry-pick these examples because it's an architectural issue. Which is like a real classic conflation between, say, implementation and architecture. Like, products have issues, especially early products. But like, architecturally, the scaling is fine. Certainly, performance is fine. And what's nice about this is actually going up the sales ramp, we've got lots of customers using this stuff, and things are looking great. And so, the good news is we don't have to pick historical examples anymore. We don't have to be archeologists. We can look at how people are using it today. Okay, so last year when NSX was launched, we were tripping over themselves to say how they work really closely with you. Can you give us a little bit of insight from an engineering standpoint? You now have the whole, networking is your whole baby. So, you know, what's going on with the partnerships and how are you working together with the ecosystem? Right, so just to be clear, there are sales alliances like resellers and bars and then there's technical partners. Which one do you want me to address? Technical partners. NSX is a platform. We've reaffirmed that with our recent announcements around the Goldilocks Zone, which is a security platform. And so, we're at a point now that we're largely market led, which is we look at the customers and what they want and which partners they want us to work with and that's where we spend engineering resources. Because, I mean, at the end of the day, partnering requires not just engineering resources but it requires us to do validation and design and so forth. And so, we've engaged with a number of partners. We've made a number of large announcements recently with Arista, with Cumulus, with HP. We've done a number of announcements with Paul Walton Networks doing customers with all of these guys, same thing. And so, we engage them as quickly as we can. We do what's best to prioritize resources based on customer demand and we're very excited about the partner ecosystem we've developed. So, even when I hear people talk about the Federation, sometimes people get a little confused. I've heard people say EMC is going to buy a networking switch company or VMware is going to get into the business. The whole project Marvin thing everybody was completely convinced that VMware was going to go into the hardware business. I mean, VMware in its place is software, right? We're a software company. This is a software play.  I mean, you're lifting functionality out of the network and you're re-implementing it in software, whether that software is a generation three application or it's a network overlay. And so, that allows people to view the physical network as basically transport and this is kind of creating somewhat of a food fight where in the value chain are our customers comfortable with? Do they want to do Dell? Do they want to do Dell and Cumulus? Do they want to do Arista? Do they want to do Cisco? And so it's nice to see it open up and go up the market to the side. I think it's way too early for us to choose a winner. All right, so, Martin, first time we had you on theCUBE, you were banging on the table talking about how open source was going to be critical. I heard a lot of open source announcements here at the show. So, yeah, OCP, open stack, and you know, where does kind of, you know, I guess start with open stack and open source. You know, fit into the discussion for your group today. Yeah, definitely. So, I mean, I feel like I'm just like progressively moving up layers in open source. So, you know, we started with Open V-Switch which is a data path layer technology, right? Like, that has been a resounding success and it's in so many clouds, it's adopted by so many companies both competitors and non-competitors are like I still have a large team working on it. It's still, you know, open source and available in Linux. So, I got a question from the community on that. Your, the VMware version of the Open V-Switch, will that inter-operate with other controllers? Well, of course. Of course, yeah. So, I mean, Open V-Switch is Open V-Switch is an open source product that I mean there's, you know, you guys have kind of your own flavor though that ships with NSX. We do not have our own flavor. Okay, it's 100% the same. We have Open V-Switch, we have standard Open V-Switch and Open V-Switch is Open V-Switch, right? And so, that, I mean it is Open V-Switch. So, then you go up there. So, then I say, okay, so the south bound interface, OBSDB, Open Flow, Open V-Switch, something that, you know, my teams have worked on. Then you've got the controller layer. So, you want a northbound interface to that, which is like Neutron and Quantum. I've got two core developers on it. This is a project we've been involved in both cultivating and, or incubating early on and developing. And then now I'm going even the layer above that, which is policy. So, once, once that configuration and management gets worked out, you go to the policy layer and this is the congress project that I started, right? So, also an open-source development effort, a team that I lead that's doing that. So, I mean, I just feel like I'm touching many parts of the stack. I'm just slowly working my way up. We asked Pat that same question so I got to come back to you and bring up a different perspective. I know Stu wanted to go in the weeds there, but I want to take it up a level for the developers. Obviously, the apps are driving and dictating terms to the infrastructure. The apps are hungry to program the infrastructure, right? So, I got to get your take on this. Open-source, obviously, we all love it. And Doc are showing a little bit of a twist on how they're implementing it, which is beautiful and gets really helps developers. That's the container. Okay, that's nice. Great infrastructure as code. The vision has always been get the infrastructure in a position where policy configuration management provision, all the automation can be programmed by apps. Where are we and how the work that you're doing accelerates that dream and that position for the craft developers. Okay, so I'm going to take a totally contrary view here. So, here's my contrary view. I don't think applications that developers want to even think about infrastructure. I don't think they'll ever be an API to the infrastructure. I don't think applications will ever talk to the infrastructure. So, I come back from the days of like...  No, but I don't think they'll ever program it or they're ever going to want to control it ever. So, I come from the days of working and super computers of different architectures. And if I look at the evolution of programming models for the application, before we used to know everything, we used to know cache layouts, the caching hierarchy, page sizes, we know where memory was, what was local, what was remote, we would know different, you know, and if you look at the actual programming model, it's gone far enough a way that now you don't care about these things anymore and you just treat compute like compute and network like network and you don't talk to it. I actually think the history of the computer science industry is people trying to provide APIs to the infrastructure and application writers not using it. I mean this has happened many times in networking. So, I think what's going to happen is application doesn't care about the infrastructure. The infrastructure should be virtualized with a software layer. Totally virtualized as a software layer and they'll be totally decoupled. Like a control plane for the app. So, the app itself has to do its own intelligence. Exactly, the app doesn't care about the infrastructure. It won't talk to the infrastructure, it won't program the infrastructure, the app is the app. It'll be concerned with its data and its computation and an intelligent software layer will manage everything for the infrastructure. Great, let's take that next step. So, what's going on in the plumbing that we see in sequence to pull this off? Yeah, so I think that the most disruptive thing that's happening over the last ten years is we're seeing functionality migrate away from hardware and into a software layer that's an actual infrastructure layer. Now that intelligence, it may be in a hypervisor, it may be in an OS kernel, it may be in a low balancer or a web server, but it's a piece of infrastructure that the app uses and that's intelligence in software as an additional layer. So I think it's valid for us to say there will be a software infrastructure layer. It's a software infrastructure layer, it evaluates its own pace, it provides its own services and the app sits on top of that. And I don't think the app cares about it at all. I think the app is oblivious. It shouldn't care. Exactly, it shouldn't care. So it's the responsibility of this infrastructure software layer to provide a utopian compute surface, a utopian data center surface for the app. It kills DevOps to be called dev. Right? I mean, if what you're saying is true, it's just development. To me, the utopian future is you've got this intelligence software layer that's providing infrastructure and the interface to the user is a policy interface. Now there are always going to be business needs, whether it's security needs, whether it's performance needs, whether it's economic needs, that we have to communicate with that interface. But that's a policy interface. This is policy wonks and business wonks that are talking to this thing. I mean, I always say that the Intel processor never programs it. They have a hard and top on it. So why not create that for infrastructure? Absolutely. I mean, this is where we're going. I think this is the biggest movement in IT in the last 10 years is the movement of functionality from classic hardware into a software infrastructure. How far are we for that utopian? Just peg a year. Pick a solar system where we might fly to to see that. Or in reality, how far along are we on that journey? I mean, obviously it's great vision. No, that's right. I mean, it's great for predictions. In 50 years, will the human race still be the same species? Probably, but will we have the same type of government? No, I mean, it's this decade. How close are we? I mean, our network resolution teases out this concept. I get that. So is it five years? Is it ten years? No, no, great question. So I think for generation three data centers, we've already arrived. We've already arrived. We're already here. We can see it. We can look at it. We can understand the benefits. For traditional IT, we're now going up the adoption ramp. I think we're crossing the chasm. This year is the chasm crossing year, which means we'll be entering a mature market in 2015 on the networking side. And I think we've got a lot of work to do and we'll have a heavy tail to deal with afterwards. Martin, when I hear about applications and infrastructure, I'm thinking about what Docker's doing out there. I'm wondering, I mean, it's early days. At DockerCon, there was like one page written about networking earlier this year. How do containers and Docker fit into your vision of the future? Yeah, so I mean, for me, I'm interested in changing networking. That's what I'm interested in. To change networking, I need to touch as many points in the network as possible. Whether that's a legacy physical workload, it's a bare metal workload, it's a container, it's a VM, and whether that VM is KVM Zen or whatever. And so for me, a container is just another endpoint that I want to connect to. What's interesting about the container discussion though is containers often host Gen3 apps. And so Gen3 apps don't require as much features in the virtual network because they reimplement a lot of it. So one of the core use cases for them is actually security. Because now we can implement security services in a separate trust domain, and we can do that. Fully compatible with things like NSX. So I think that, you know, using containers is great, and that we certainly want to support them with NSX, and we will. So give us the update on the news, your news, on the promotion. Apparently, there's a promotion recently. Is there a new role? I mean, apparently there's I mean, of course the deck chairs always move in VMware, but we do like the senior executive roles.  What's your new role? What's your official title and new focus? Yeah, so I'm now the GM of the Network Security Business Unit, so I'm responsible for everything. P&L? I'm responsible for P&L, so I want to say that. Welcome to the big leagues, baby. Come to your head. I find that there's lots of synergies in this organization, 1 plus 1 equals 3, and we leverage our core competency to come together. Fingo! How did I do? Well, now you're under a lot of pressure. See, revenue generating. What's your run rate you're doing? You said 100 million? 100 million this year. Just in a... In that a second. Okay, awesome. Well, Martín, always great to get you. I want to get one final bumper sticker. I know one you always have something great to add. This year's VMworld, put the bumper sticker on the show for the folks out there watching. How would you summarize the network virtualization, evolution, and journey? Where are we, and the impact to IT? I think it's two words. Well, one of them is a contraction. Two words, one of which is a contraction. It's here! Okay, we'll be right back. Live, VMworld 2014 is theCUBE. We'll be right back. Thanks.


I'm David Lee Wilson and this is my partner Alison Lee Wilson, who's a co-director and together we founded Halon Morn Anglesey Seasalt 21 years ago. It's been quite a journey the last 21 years because it started with Bunsen Burners and anamal bath in a shed and it grew from initially one student and myself making salt in a bath to 23 full-time jobs all year round. There is a scheme of protected food names that was set up by the EU and we were the first protected designation of origin in Wales three years ago now. We've always been very proud of where our products are used. For example, Barack Obama enjoyed our smoked sea salt on his milk chocolate caramel during his presidency in the White House. It's been used at the London 2012 Olympics. I think we were both really surprised by this nomination but for me it's really really important because it validates 21 years of commitment to doing something well through good and bad times and it just makes us hugely proud. I'm very much aware that Wales is my adopted country. I've come from England. I came over as a student and I have to say that being nominated for this award is the highest accolade I could possibly hope for.


love to read about anxiety, talk about anxiety, watch videos and listen to podcasts. But recovery is actually a doing thing. We must do things to recover. It's Monday, which means it's recovery Monday. This is episode 21. And today, that's what we're talking about. So let's get cooking. Let's see who is here. I'm gonna put the chat overlay up as usual. Let me know that you can hear me. Let me know where you're coming from. Let's get comfortable. Another Monday 21st week that we're doing this, I cannot believe that we've been doing this for this long, but we have and we still have quite a bit more to go. We're gonna be doing these well into the spring. I will just remind you guys as you are filing in filing in and finding your seats, pulling up your beverage, whatever it is, that every Monday, we do a lesson out of this book, the anxious truth, which is my recovery guide. And so if you do not have a copy of the book and you want to go along with it, by all means, you can find it on my website at the anxious truth.com. I think it's a good book. Everybody that reads it appears to think it's a good book. So go grab a copy if you don't already have it. Let's see here, GBG is here, Amanda is here, Bethany can hear me. Yay, fellow Long Islander, Christine, welcome. So today, we're going to talk about the idea that recovery is a doing thing. We have to actually do stuff, which we all hate. We don't want to do stuff. It would be great if we could just read books and listen to podcasts and recover, but it doesn't work that way. So we're gonna go over that. They will do some Q&A like we usually do. And yeah, let's get cooking. Let's get into it. So this, this part of Recovery Monday, this starts chapter four in the anxious truth. So the book is laid out in five different chapters really. And chapter four is all about learning how to make a recovery plan. And then chapter five, which we'll get into in a couple of months or wherever long that's going to be is about how to execute that plan. So the first step in knowing how to create a recovery plan is to understand that the plan is about doing this isn't about what other books you can read, it's not about what other podcasts you can listen to. It's not about following more people on YouTube or watching more videos. This is about identifying the things that we can do actually behaviors that we can engage in and things that we can do or behaviors that we can not engage in for the GAD folks and the health anxiety people. So that's what we're going to talk about today. Why do we have to do things? Why is this a doing solution as opposed to a just a reading or a talking solution? The reason why we have to do things is because in the end recovery from an anxiety disorder is really about learning, right? So I always like to say that nobody really has to heal. We have to learn not saying there isn't healing involved and not trying to take away your healing. But recovery is not really a healing process. It's a learning process or you might say an unlearning process if you will. And we need to find good ways to learn. And there are a couple of different ways that humans learn. I can't go through all of learning theory in one little video, but we can learn by ingesting right by literally reading a book or listening to an audio book or watching a video. I can read about how to play the guitar, but that doesn't actually teach me how to play the guitar. We get no better at the guitar by just reading about it. The second way is I can watch somebody play the guitar so we can have somebody model behavior for us. And that helps us learn as well. And that's valuable. So is the reading and that sort of stuff reading and listening. That's valuable. Watching somebody engage in certain behavior. That's also valuable for sure. But I can watch great guitarists all the time, which I do like to do because it's just enjoyable. But watching Mark Knopfler or watching, you know, David Gilmore doesn't make me a better guitarist in any way. I enjoy it, but it doesn't make me a better guitarist. It sort of shows me what I would love to be able to do. But before I could do those things, I have to actually do them. So the most effective ways that human beings, beings learn new habits and new behaviors, because this is about behavior change, not changing your thoughts is to do those new behaviors. Like we do not get better at doing new things and learning new things to do unless we actually do them. We do them. We are bad at them at first. We stumble, we fail, we get it wrong, we refine, we integrate our learning, we integrate our listening, we integrate our watching and seeing other people who are ahead of us in the recovery journey, we can model what they do. And so we get it over time, right? But we have to do the things in order to learn.  If you think you could just read about it or talk about it or wish to be recovered, it just just doesn't work that way, which thinks I wish it did. If it did, we wouldn't be here today and everybody would be feeling good and you wouldn't need me and that would be great. But unfortunately, it doesn't. We have to do things. We have to leverage the ability of human beings to learn through experience. What are we learning when we do? Well, we're learning new skills and we're learning to build actual new behaviors, new ways to relax into anxiety, be not reactive to it. We are learning those things. We're learning how to act differently. But we're also learning that the outcomes when we do those things are positive. So I felt really bad and I still felt afraid. But, oh, look, nothing actually happened, even though I didn't try to save myself. So we learned to act a new way toward anxiety, relate to it a different way behaviorally. And then we hopefully learn the lessons that come out of that, which is, oh, even when I dropped all my safety behaviors and went toward it, the bad thing didn't happen. Because the panic and the anxiety itself is not the bad thing. The bad thing is what you interpret that as. I'm going to go insane. This will never end. I might get stuck like this. I might die. We all know the common fears. So those are the things we learn through doing. We practice our actual new behaviors and we take the lessons that come out of those experiences that say, oh, yeah, I did it this new way. That wasn't so good at it today. I'm working on it. And look, nothing bad happened to me, even though I was really afraid and uncomfortable. I don't want to do it this way. But look, I learned something today. That is why we have to do things. So I will definitely catch up with the comments in the end, by the way, but I will just kind of get through the little bit of a lecture first and then we'll do some Q&A. So I'll catch up to you guys, I promise. So why that's why we have to learn. So again, if I go back to this chapter, which is lesson 4.1 of the book, we have to acknowledge why, not only why we do it that way, but why we can't just do it by talking and reading and speaking and affirmations and mantras and repeating things. Why doesn't that work? Well, that doesn't really work because the part of your brain that's responsible for all of this stuff, like kind of the fear response and the threat detection response going off the rails, doesn't understand any of that stuff. It's not designed to listen to you speak. It's not designed to, you know, listen to positive quotes. It's not designed to be inspired. It's designed to find things that are threats to you and protect you from them. That's all it knows how to do. So it's not terribly complex that way. And it's just not ever listening. It doesn't understand. It doesn't understand when you want to speak your way to recovery. It doesn't understand when you want to mindset your way to recovery. It doesn't understand when you want to think different ways or think positively or none of that stuff or listen to all the podcasts that ever produced. It just isn't listening. It only knows experience. So we have to give it experience. That's why we can't just talk about this. It would be great if we could, but we can't just talk about it. We can't just try to find like, oh, you know, new mindset. I got to get a different way to do this in my head. I have to just get it. Something has to click. No, we actually have to do the things. So that's really important. It's a raw deal. It's not the best deal, but it is the deal we have. And I say that all the time. So we kind of have to go through this and do the things because those outcomes every time we do them, teach us again that the bad thing never happened, right? It never happened. That's really important. The doing is only half of it.  Or if you're, you know, a health anxiety person or whatever and you're talking about, well, I haven't Googled in a long time, that's great. That's really a good thing. But in the end, like if we don't take the second half of that lesson, that nothing bad actually happened, then we're missing half of the doing. So the doing and recovery is both of those things. It's I have to do the scary thing or refrain from doing the safe thing, right? If you're a health anxiety person or a bad person. And then I must realize that, oh, nothing bad actually happened. So one common mistake that people make in terms of the doing is like, well, I do all the things I do, I am out, I live my life, I'm not homebound, I do all my stuff. But the second part of the doing, which is the part where you actually try to actively take in the reality of the experience. Sometimes you miss. But I was panicking. I do all the things, but I panic, I do all the things, but I feel anxious. I do all the things, but I still have the scary thoughts. Well, doing comes in two parts, like if you don't allow yourself to actually take in the experience in the form of the actual outcome, I think that happened to you, then doing is kind of half the battle and it becomes really frustrating. So if you're listening today or watching today, and you have you feel like I do I do all the things, but it's not getting any better. Are you actually accepting the lessons of the doing doing? That's the important part. We do the doing not for the sake of it. This isn't just being hardcore. This isn't doing scary things just for the sake of it. We must have experiences that teach us lessons. So sometimes if you're not taking the lesson, and you're only saying, Well, I was anxious while I had the thoughts while I was still scared. So it's not working. Well, you're missing missing the most important part, missing the reason for the doing. Right. So the other thing that I want to talk about that 10 minutes in, this is good that I think I want to talk about two of the things. One would be motivation. The first one is motivation. And I want to touch on the fact that motivation is also not enough. This is a drag. But this is also true. Like motivation is great. And we do want to be motivated. But sometimes we overemphasize that motivation. Like, Yeah, today I'm going to get it, man. That's it. I'm tired. I'm going to recover.  I'm going to do all these things like that's great. And that can get you moving in the right direction. But motivation by itself does not actually lead to recovery. Like motivation is just a way to inform new actions or generate behavioral change, which is really great. But a lot of people start to think that well, if I could just get motivated to do this, then then it's going to be great. Like I'm going to fix it because now I'm going to be motivated to do this and just being motivated to recover is great. But by itself, it won't get the job done. And then sometimes when the motivation sort of sags, because well, it's really hard to do these things and recovery doesn't happen in a week, then the motivation begins to sag and then we get into that trap that says, Well, I lost my motivation. So therefore I'm done. Like it didn't work. I'm not motivated anymore. I'm discouraged. One thing you have to super remember is that motivation by itself. I like that super remembered. Is anybody ever super remember anything? But the two things really get to remember about motivation is motivation itself is not recovery. It's good to have it, but it's not recovery by itself. And a lack of motivation does not mean failure. Like we have to do things even when we are not motivated to do them. It is 100 percent possible to do things even when you are not motivated. And one thing that sometimes keep keeps people from the doing or the action in recovery is the mistaken belief that they have to first be motivated to do it before they can do it, which is not true. Just because you don't feel like doing it doesn't make you unable to do it. So do not make the mistake of thinking that motivation alone will get you over the hump, or that a lack of motivation means that you're dead in the water. That's not true. We can do things even when we are not motivated to do them. It happens all the time. We do things every day that we're not necessarily motivated to do. Yes, please super remember that. I don't know. I can't tell you what I'm going to say next. Who knows. And then the last thing that I want to touch on before we go to the comments is the idea that people sometimes think it's along the lines of motivation. It's it's it's it's sort of connected to that. Some people feel like, okay, I know that I have to do things. I know I have to change and I have to stop googling my symptoms. I know I have to let imperfection be.  I know I have to do my exposures and drive on the highway. But I just if I could just find a way to make a click first, that is a very common mistake and it will 100% gets you stuck and frustrated. Here is a little bit more bad news. And I feel like all I do is get in this camera and give you bad news. But the bad news leads to good leads to good outcomes. I promise. So you cannot wait until you are ready to do this. Right. So there's a multiple layers of ready in this. If you're coming to this and you're kind of new to what I'm saying. And you know, this is a little bit of a new approach to you and you've been taking a very different approach. You're not really sure if this crazy dude on the camera is even right. I get that you kind of have to be ready to even hear this message. And that might take a little bit of time. That's where psycho education comes into play. So that's like the first form of ready. And it's okay to have to move through that before I'm willing to accept that this is what I have to do. I really got to get my brain around this. I get that that's one form of readiness. The second form of ready that sometimes keeps people stuck is the idea that well now I okay, I know I have to do this, but I'm just I just got to find a way for it to click. I need to find a way to make it click so I'm not so scared so I can do it. I have to find a way to like somehow feel bravery before I can do it. So you will never be ready. Like this is work that you are never ready to do is crazy as it sounds. And I like to say all these ridiculous semi profound sounding paradoxical things, but we are only ready after we start to do it. That and that's true. Like if you are waiting for the perfect moment that the stars are aligned and the fear goes away. So now you can start to do the work. You will never do work. You have to start to do this even when you don't think you're actually ready to do it. So as long as you have got your brain around the fact that OK, this is in fact sorry guys, this is in fact what I have to do. That's phase one of readiness. Once you're there, you can't wait for some magical phase two that has you feeling brave and sure and totally certain that this is going to work out. You're going to be uncertain. You're going to be unsure. You're going to be in new territory. You're going to make mistakes. You're going to stumble. You're going to be afraid. You're going to not want to do it.  Like that's how we learn to break the old habits. That's how we learn to do the new things. So that part of ready, which is tied to motivation to a certain extent, only comes after the doing and really truly like motivation kind of only comes after the doing to like there's way, way, way more motivation to be had after the doing. The doing actually feeds the motivation. The doing feeds the confidence. The doing feeds the bravery. But you got to start with the doing. So it's important to say that because I know a lot of people wind up with like, if I could just let me just find one more video, let me find some one other person to follow on Instagram. Let me read one more book. This might be the book that lets me actually recover. Usually that means after you've been through a zillion books, mine and everybody else's and YouTube channels and podcasts and forums and groups and discussion groups after you've been through so many of those that really is well, I'm just scared to do this. So I'm hoping to find a way that will help me do it not scare. Or I want it to be easier. Not say anybody's lazy. I'm not faulting anybody. That's human nature. But just be aware of that. There's no such thing as readiness to go. Okay. So let's take a look at some comments that is all about the fact that it's a doing a thing. So let's pop up to the top and see where everybody is from everybody's happened for all kinds of different places. Love it.  Really? That's like something I would do. Let's see. Belgium is here. England is here from all over the world. I love it. Ottawa, Canada. Welcome up to 3.5 makes so much sense. Can't wait to hear how to make the changes. Okay, that's what you're talking about now. So over the next, I don't know how many lessons are in this book. I don't even know how many lessons are in this book. But all of chapter four is about how to make your plan and all of chapter five is about how to actually execute that plan. So we'll keep going. So let's see here. Wasn't able to practice walking on 80 because of the real. Okay, let me pop this up on the screen real quick. We'll go through some comments. I'll take as many as I can. I probably won't be able to do them all. Wasn't able to practice walking on aided the last few days because of really bad weather.  That happens sometimes. Now I have to go back to square one. I'm not sure why that square one. Why would it be square one? It's just don't Carol, don't throw away your experiences, right? So if you're if you did a thing on Tuesday and then weather doesn't cooperate so you can't do it again until the next Tuesday that does not negate what happened the previous Tuesday, right? So you might feel differently about it. You've lost a little bit of maybe momentum or the fear starts to creep in again, but that doesn't negate what you already did and square one usually means I got to start doing these things again, even though I'm afraid I'm afraid to do them again. But the next time you go through it, the experience of the first time helps you like these experiences are additive.  But once you start doing it again, nine times out of 10 you'll go a little faster than you did the first time because those previous experiences count. Don't discount them. You did that. You get credit for that. No, no, no, no. What does Sam have to say?  We would all have to stay in bed until it's over. Clearly, there were many times when I would have been happy to do that, but no brain, but the brain has to see and feel us getting up and going out in regard with the danger. Yes, excellent, excellent comment that is 100% true. Like that experience, your brain has to have the experience that oh, I went out and did some stuff and interacted in a new way and nothing bad happened. It doesn't understand anything but that. What it's looking for is green light signals. All it knows right now is red light signals and all of the things that you have been doing to try to stop it and run away from it and manage it and cope are sending they're having the opposite effect. Those are red light signals.  So you're sending a red signal back and your brain's like, OK, cool, I got it right. I'll do it again. So we have to be super careful about that. Super careful, super remember. I want you super a lot today. I decided it's my thing. Let's see here. I look back on past exposures as evident. OK, this is good. Let's see here. I look back on past doing exposures as evidence to support my proof of the fear to shout at it like, yes, thank you, Nikki. Nikki, you always have good comments. I appreciate you. I really do. I love when you're here. This is the experience that when you take the experience out of the the exposure, you take the lesson out of it and you carry it with you. If you don't take the lesson that Nikki is talking about, look, I did it and your only response to the doing is that was terrible and I was still afraid so it's not working and I must never feel these things and I have to find a way to manage it and make it go away. And that doesn't work to make it go away. Then what's the point? You're just putting yourself in a looping torture chamber of doing and doing but feeling terrible while you do it. Nikki has it right. Like the experience tells you, oh, nothing happened and now I can take that experience with me the next time to just make it just a little bit easier the next time. Just a little bit, not a lot. Just a little bit. These are additive experiences, but you have to take those lessons and run with them. You cannot just you can't throw them on the floor. You throw that if you throw the outcome on the floor and only judge based on what I thought I was going to happen, what it felt like, it becomes like a hamster wheel that it's hard to get off. It's really hard. And then let's see here. Terrio, what up, Terrio from Ottawa. Let's see. Following.  My method, this is not my method. I did not invent this. This is not a method, a system, a program. I'm just delivering the same information that like a zillion really qualified therapists and clinicians would give you. So it's always important for me to say that this is not the true method in any way. I didn't invent any of this. It just appeared to be good at talking about it and explaining it. So that's the only credit I could take. If I don't push myself to panic when driving, but keep going further, is that OK? You know, what I always say is people ask, do I have to panic to recover? Not necessarily, but you do have to be willing to panic. So if you are in a situation where you're driving exposures are maybe a little too easy. And this is a thing that you have to decide. And sometimes you have to experiment with to see like, I'm not sure it was easy today, but not so easy yesterday. It's been easy three days in a row or four days out of six. You've got to kind of trial and error to a certain extent. But if it's at the point where it's like I can do this and I'm pretty much in no danger of even getting close to panic, then yeah, you've got to and it's time to push yourself more. Right. So you have to get yourself to the point where you push yourself into a zone where you may in fact panic. If you don't, you don't. But if there is discomfort and you're right on that edge of panic, sometimes you go over and fall into it. Sometimes you don't. That's kind of where you want to be. Just be careful about staying too far away. If like if panic is not going to happen, it's just not a thing and it just becomes a little comfortable, then that means time to push a little more or work on something different. All right. So that assumes that panic attacks are your problem, right? That we always got to make sure that I say that like that assumes that what you're working on is something like panic disorder or garophobia that's fueled by panic attacks. Got to be willing to panic and you got to push into the zone where you very well might. For me, sometimes I did. Sometimes I didn't. In the beginning, I did a whole lot more than it started to be less and less. So can't give you an exact answer, but that's sort of your guiding thing. All right. So let's see here. Emma is here. I'm not sure how much experience of me not having a heart attack my anxiety to say, still not convinced it's not an underlying heart issue thing. Usually, and this is common, Emma, so don't worry about that you and many other people. But you really have to look at that and say, when you are doing these things, like really sit down. I'm not saying this is true, but these are these are hints that usually point us in this direction. What am I really doing in these exposures? What am I doing as I'm living my life? What am I doing up here? And what am I doing behaviorally that is still designed to have just in case? Do I know where the hospitals are? Do I know where my doctor is? Do I always make sure I have my phone with me ready to go? Do I always make sure that somebody is either with me or knows where I am in case it is a heart attack? There's a lot of little sneaky stuff that sometimes we drag into these experiences. And we think, well, I'm doing it, but I still don't believe that it's not really my heart. Well, sometimes we drag a whole lot of just in case little subtle behaviors into that. And that's something that you really have to look at. I can't tell you if you're doing that or not. But it's usually an indicator of why something like this happens. Like I'm just, I still think it's my heart. Or you just have to get to that point where you are 100% willing to say, OK, then it's my heart. Fine, it's my heart.   This is not about being hardcore for the sake of building character. That's where the lesson is. So when your brain decides, yeah, but I'm still not sure this might be my heart, the answer really has to be, well, then let it be. Go ahead and let it be. I'm not doing anything to respond to them, doing literally nothing to save myself from that, protect against it or plan for that. I'm going to go out and go to dinner.   But sometimes if you're still hanging on in some way and not willing to go it that way, that could be part of why. No, no matter how many times I do this, I'm going to keep listening and entertaining the thought that I'm having a heart attack now. For me, I literally had to get to the point where I would say literally say, this would be heart attack number seven thousand. I'm just not going to listen anymore.  Like I'm not listening anymore.  Like I literally had to get to that point because I was just done. So sometimes it takes a little bit of that too. Hard question, because I don't know your specific situation, but those are some of the reasons why. No, I'm still hanging on. Like your brain will still have time to say you might be having heart attack this time, but you can learn to just, OK, shrug your shoulders. You may be stuck in a situation where just because you have the thought you think the thought is important and you must listen to it. That's not true. It's been wrong always. Just saying. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's see here. Let's pop this in here. Sometimes I got to look over the top of the comments because they're really big comments. Hey, Maria from Greece. Good to see you. How can I cope with external causes that give me anxiety like poverty, etc. I make quality of my life worse. It's difficult when you stress over the possible. Oh, look, let me let me. First of all, I'm very sorry that you're going through those situations. Those are 100 percent stress and anxiety producing. No doubt about that. Now, this goes a little bit beyond disordered anxiety, right? So we always talk about anxiety disorders versus regular air quotes on being facetious, regular anxiety or externally generated or just regular sort of life anxiety. That's life anxiety. That's real. That's real stress. That's real uncertainty. Those are all of those things. The best advice I could give you, Maria, is that you may feel stressed and anxious over food security and shelter security and money and things of that nature. And my heart goes out to you. It really does. You don't have to add being afraid of the uncertainty. So that's where things go a little bit off the rails. You are under tremendous amount of stress. That's true. The difference is I'm really stressed and anxious over my food situation versus I'm stressed and anxious over my food situation. And now I'm anxious because I'm anxious. Those are two different things. And we're always addressing the second thing. You don't have to be anxious about being anxious. But I do hope things improve for you. That's that's a tough way to live. It really is. I'm very sorry. Let's pop out here. Super remember to do your exposures. Love it. Yes, let's throw this out here. Motivation follows the act itself. There's a whole field of study in psychology and sociology, social psychology that looks at motivation and things like that. And in many cases, we find all the time that like, OK, the motivation does come after the action. We have it backwards somehow. We think we have to get motivated first and then we can act. And some of that is because of the messages that we are immersed in every day on social media.  Go do the thing and your mindset will follow after. I promise like nobody's ever mindset of them out of OCD. Nobody ever mindsets themselves out of panic disorder. In this situation, your mindset is not going to change until your behavior changes. It's really important. Really important. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's see here. This is this is a life thing. How do you get motivated? If you know you're going to do something that will cause you pain afterwards, like starting working out again. OK, that can happen, right?  Like, first of all, you don't have to do that. OK, you don't have to or maybe you do. I don't know. I don't know the specific situation, right? But if you are in a situation where you choose to do things that will cause you physical pain, OK, you can you can choose to do those things all the time. My shoulders are on fire, but I still lift. I don't know why I do that one day. Maybe I'll stop, but I do. The difference is that the pain, you know why the pain is there. The problem here is not that that is again a special circumstance. Tell me now how to deal with exercise induced pain anxiety. That's not special anxiety. That is just if I feel pain, I throw gasoline on a fire that's already there. The fire is this big because of my pain. I turn it into a 10 alarm three story blaze by pouring worry and anxiety on top of it. That isn't required. Same problem, different context. So again, tell me about this special anxiety. It's none of it is special. None of it is ever special in that situation.  You can choose to not do those things or you can understand why you hurt and not turn that into a huge disaster. All right, so you got to look at that sort of stuff. Let's see here. This is good. I'm sorry, I can't see your names. I'll scroll down. I'm going to have to jump through the bottom because I'm never going to get through all you guys. This is great. I've been seeing my panic attacks while driving as failures. Definitely not failures. However, I was able to go and still do what I was trying to do. Excellent. So that's the lesson. Like I had a panic attack while I was driving and guess what?  I didn't crash the car. It wasn't lock. I didn't dodge a bullet. I did it. I did it. So it's really good when you see it as failure, the panic attack as failure or the anxiety as failure. That's part of what creates the disorder to begin with. Like I must never feel that. That's what creates to begin with. We're learning that we don't want to feel it. But even if I panic, I'm OK. Not what if I panic. Even if I panic, I'm still OK. OK, we'll get back to that maybe. Let's see here. No, no, no, no, no. Let's pop through here. How do I stop being? I'll put this up. How do I stop being afraid of the bodily sensations? What is doing nothing? Doing nothing is literally doing nothing. Doing like if you're afraid of your own body, what do you do to try and save yourself from that? What actions are you taking? Are you googling? Are you trying to find explain what it is? Are you making sure there's always a safe person? Do you stay close to home? Do you always have the hospital nearby? You know, all of those things. What do you do in response to keep you safe when you think you are in danger? Then you stop doing those things and then nothing happens. And so we're looking for that. Even when I am afraid, I am OK. If I'm not afraid, I'm OK. If I am afraid, I'm OK. Just because I think and feel a thing, I'm still OK. So in a nutshell, and everything I've ever written or said in these podcasts and these books is about how to do that. So I would urge you to avail yourself of those resources. How do I stop being afraid of the bodily sensations? You don't stop being afraid.  And then the fear goes away. You can't just decide to not be afraid. That's an important point for anybody still listening. You cannot just decide to stop being afraid. It doesn't happen. Today's whole thing is that recovery is a doing thing. If you could just decide to not be afraid or hear some words that would make you not be afraid, we wouldn't have to do anything. And then I wouldn't be here writing books. But in this situation, it doesn't work that way. So we do these things, in some cases, not do the things, doing nothing, because the experiences teach us that we don't have to be afraid anymore and teach us that over time. So that's how. And as far as the follow-up, I never know what's real and what's not, the answer to that is correct. You don't. Part of this is uncertainty and tolerance. We don't know. But when the evidence shows again and again and again that every single time I've been 100% sure that I'm having an aneurysm and I must go to a hospital, I'm wrong. Every single time. Every single time I'm wrong. So you have to start to go based on those trends. But we can never, never know. This is true and this sucks, but you have to say it. This is never, we never get certainty in life. And if you think I can only do this if I can get 100% certainty, you will be frustrated. There's no such thing for any human being walking the planet in any circumstance. That's a bitter pill to swallow. It's a hard pill to swallow, but that's true. Let's see here. Oh yeah, the swimming and getting wet analogy. I didn't use that today, I should have. I guess what I usually say in that situation is if you want to learn to swim, when you declare disaster every single time you get wet, then you will never learn how to swim. You must get wet to learn how to swim. And that's kind of what this is. We need the water. We need the wet to get to learn how to swim. Thanks, B. Let's see here. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, let's see. Geronimo. I'll put this up. This is always a controversial thing. Not everyone is the same. Okay, you can make that declaration if you would like. We are not all the same. This is 100% true. But generally speaking, within a relatively narrow range, cognition and learning and the things that drive these disorders are kind of universal. Yes, there are experiences that color that. That's 100% true. But the assertion that everyone is different, so therefore I don't have to, I shouldn't do these things to get better. There's a different way for me to get better is not an assertion I'm gonna necessarily agree with. I'm 100% gonna validate your uniqueness as a human being. We are all unique and our experience is color, sometimes our perceptions and our actions, that's 100% true. But if we adhere to the principles of recovery, then we know how to work with those things. So the argument not everyone is the same is usually says, well, I don't like what you're saying, Drew, I don't wanna do it that way. And you don't have to, you're free not to listen or you're free to do it any way you wanted. I would wish you well no matter what. But it's not based on the idea that somehow we are all unique snowflakes and everybody's brain works completely differently. That is simply not true. So if you understand the workings of why we do these things and then you can see through the lens of your experience, well, then we have a way to work within the system where everybody is kind of the same. And trust me, in this situation, you want us to all be the same but yet honor our differences and use them in part of our recovery. That's critically important. But some people do wanna dig their heels in and say, no, everyone's different and this isn't for me. Okay, I would still root for you whatever path you take. So let's see here. I'm gonna scroll to the bottom because we're at 35 minutes and I don't have a whole lot of time today. So let's see. Wearing something. I'm sorry, I'm just reading through the comments.  Hey, Loretta, how's it going? Next Monday can you end the recovery and start to pull back? On Mondays, I'm essentially just going through the book. So no, that's not a thing that I'll be talking about next Monday. It's in chapter five of the book. We do talk about sort of setbacks and frustrations but these Monday sessions are essentially going through the book lesson by lesson. So we'll get to that sometime in chapter five. It touches on it. Okay, this is a good comment. What up, JJ? I used to have a lot of anxiety from noticing a numbness sensation near my heart. Now I don't feel anxious anymore but want to not notice the numbness anymore. Okay, well, unfortunately that takes a long time as crazy as that sounds. Now, of course, all of what I say always like the standard disclaimer, I shouldn't even have to say this, but I will. It's not medical advice. So I'm always operating in the assumption that you have been given a clean bill of health and everything is okay, right? So assuming that you have then the best advice I could give you with that is the sensations themselves that I used to have did take a long time to go away and most people will say that. Like, I'm not afraid of it anymore but I'm still nauseous. Okay, well, patience. Like patience, you know, time, time, time. Time kind of fixes all that stuff. And I was always blown away by the number of sensations that I experienced on a daily basis back in those days that are gone. Like what could possibly be, did my body completely remake itself? Did I have some sort of like wide series of afflictions that somehow went away? No, not really, didn't. So let's see, time, time, time. Be patient. I think that's it. Let's see if I get one more in. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Okay, love it. I'm a big grease belly garage fan. It's just a name, but really the comments are always really good. But I love a good creative screen name. I really do. I shot a video from my channel yesterday the entire time my lizard brain thought I was having a heart attack. It was uncomfortable by the time I got home, everything was fine. That's the most important part, dude. And I think I know you know that. So that's the most important part of the story. The most important part of the story is the part where nothing happened. Normally we want to say that the most important to the story is I felt like it was gonna have a heart attack. I thought it was gonna pass out. I thought I was gonna fall over. I thought I was gonna get sick. I thought it felt like it felt like you wanna tell that story again and again and again. But really the story is I shot a video from my channel. It was really uncomfortable. I was afraid while I was doing it, nothing happened at the end. That sounds really cold and cruel. I'm not trying to invalidate your experience. But if you want to continue to do nothing but validate the feelings and the thoughts, you're gonna have trouble. Like in a way, we do have to get a little bit disrespectful toward those thoughts and feelings. I'm gonna have a heart attack.  I'm gonna pass out.  I'm pretty sure that this might be a heart attack this time.  So as crazy as it sounds, we never wanna disrespect ourselves. I never wanna disrespect a person, but I'm always gonna be disrespectful toward that irrational fear. So there you go. So there you go. I do say that a lot, don't I? So there you go. Not required. Anyway. All right, guys. I think that's about it. I've gotten through just about all the comments. Thanks for coming by. As always, next week we're doing, what are we doing next week? I don't even know. This is a doing thing. Lesson four dot two is, wait for it. This takes time. Oh, look at that. Next lesson is about patience. Do you think that I would know that? I wrote the book, but I actually don't remember what or the chapter during some times. So anyway, if you do not have the book and you want to get it, you can find it on my website, theanxiestruth.com. There you go. I'm guessing most of you probably already have it already. So I'm preaching to the choir. Thank you so much for your support. Those of you who do have it. And I will leave you with this. Again, we'll be back next week. We're gonna do it again. We're doing it every week until we run out of lessons. So if you are not subscribed to the morning email, the anxious morning, which is kind of my favorite thing that I do and probably the best work that I have ever produced in this space. I'm really proud of it. And everybody seems to love it. Go do that. It's at theanxiestmorning.com. It's free. It's 100% free. You just put in your email address every morning.  No doom scrolling with the anxious morning. So go check that out. And thank you guys for coming by. I will see you again, same place, same time, new lesson next week.


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With its roots in the freedom struggle, the Indian foreign policy sought to steer clear of block politics and to end the era of unilateral action. Pundit Javaharlal Nehru laid the foundations for a new world order, far removed from block politics that characterized the Cold War. India was among the 51 countries that founded the UN and signed the UN Charter at San Francisco on June 26, 1945. The Gandhian legacy and Gandhian values could not have been more relevant than today, when the threat of nuclear catastrophe stares the mankind in its face. Gandhiji abhorred nuclear weapons, where even the fruits of victory would turn ashes in the mouth. It is against the backdrop of Gandhian legacy that India has been pushing for a convention that prohibits the development, production, testing, deployment, stockpiling, threat or use of nuclear weapons, and providing for its complete elimination. At the first session of the UN General Assembly in 1946, India brought the question of racial discrimination in South Africa on to the international agenda. In the following years, India played a major role in the struggle against apartheid, strongly arguing for the total abolition of racism in every form as the basis of the new world order. India played a leading role in the liberation struggles in countries like Zimbabwe, South Africa and Namibia. India vigorously campaigned for the inclusion of China in the UN, thus ensuring that the world body achieved universality of character. In a bid to secure peace in a world torn by wars, India took active part in the UN peacekeeping operations in several troubled spots of the world. She participated in the peacekeeping missions to Korea, the Gaza Strip, Congo and during the Suez Canal crisis. The UN initiatives on West Asia, the Iran-Iraq War, the Afghan crisis, Cyprus and in Namibia had the fullest backing of India. Whether it was the crucial question of Palestine or the Suez Canal crisis, India extended consistent support to the Arab cause. India was included in the first committee of 11 countries set up by the UN on the Palestine question. India has had the unique distinction of bringing economic and development agenda onto the global center stage. Global freedom is incomplete if it does not lead to wider horizons of economic opportunity. India believes that poverty alleviation, energy security, environment and food security are central to the new international economic order. Former Prime Minister Indira Gandhi stressed on the need to dismantle protectionist barriers and strongly advocated enlightened multilateralism. We argued for shifting focus onto the concept of partnership between nations. Indira Gandhi helped launch the new international development strategy to help revive faith in international economic cooperation. India has contributed to the various organs of the UN. The UNESCO was started on the principle that since wars begin in the minds of men, it is in the minds of men that the defences of peace have to be constructed. Veteran Gandhian Hansa Mehta also contributed to the drafting of the UN Declaration of Human Rights and was among the first signatories to it.  Under the stewardship of the then Prime Minister Indira Gandhi, India was among the earliest countries to realize the need to protect the environment. Voicing the concerns of the developing countries, India played an important role in the drafting of the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea way back in 1982 in order to ensure new maritime exclusive economic zones or EEZs. In the emerging threat of terrorism, India proposed as early as in 1996 the draft comprehensive convention on international terrorism. The convention required the UN member countries to make acts of terrorism punishable. India is pushing world leaders to collectively meet the challenges of terrorism, environment and climate change.


It has been almost a week since his introduction, and the excitement of Garrett Cole's move to join the Yankees has not worn off one bit. By signing his name on the dotted line, Cole ensured that he'll be a fixture in the Bronx for a long time. And right after his contract became official, he immediately put the pinstripes on, taking the first step in a dream come true that fans cannot wait to see him live out. We hope you're having a great night. We welcome you to the latest Yankees hot stove on Yes, Bob Lorenz, John Flaherty, Jack Curry with you. Last show before the holiday breaks, so guess what? It's the last time we get to use the Yankees got Cole in their stocking pun. That's it. That thing died quickly on the set. You, wait, I was about to say, you really think that's the last time? I think it's gonna be used in April, May, June. They're still gonna be benefiting from Cole in their stocking. Well, we hope you're having a great holiday season. For Yankees fans, flash it is exactly that. Yankees went out big game hunting. They got the exact guy they wanted. And really, in a way, don't you feel like it changed the face of the franchise a little bit going into 2020? Oh, I don't think there's any doubt. And I think the press conference that Garrett Cole had kind of gave us a little glimpse into the person of who he is. And he carried himself perfectly just like a New York Yankees should. So I think the fans are excited about what he's gonna do out on the field. Number one guy in your rotation. Everybody else slots down. They should have better years because of that. But everything we've heard about the man and the person, we saw a little bit of that in the press conference. I think there are so many reasons to be excited about your pitching staff, your lineup, your defense. Yankees have no excuses. It's a World Series next year or it'll be a failure.  But I think if you're the Yankee executives who helped execute this and make sure that they hunted down Cole and signed him, I think your headline is mission accomplished. You are heading into spring training knowing that you went out and sought out the best free agent pitcher on the market. Somebody who is not going to be there in the next four years. You're not going to have a Garrett Cole on the free agent market, that type of pitcher. And you signed him, you've made your team infinitely better. And I know this is a simple statement to make, but think about the excitement that is surrounding the Yankees right now. Think about how people would feel if they didn't sign Cole, if perhaps he went to the Dodgers or went to the Angels and they had to go to a plan B. They didn't need a plan B. They made sure that they executed in plan A with Hal Steinbrenner and his family investing that nine years, 324 million. Flash, I want to follow up on what you said. Sort of the guy sliding down if Severino becomes your two, passion your three. And I get the idea that your ace never matches up against the other ace all the time. Things are always fluid. But do you sit there in that clubhouse and say, wow, our two is going against their four today? Or you know, that kind of thing. Like we have a really good chance with this matchup as opposed to maybe another one. Every day that a Yankee player drives the Yankee Stadium and you walk in that clubhouse, you're thinking about the pitching matchup and do we have an advantage? So whether it's a one, two, three or four, you feel good about, you know, Cole's your number one, Severino too. Then you got Paxton and you got Tanaka.  And I think about the whole team now getting ready for spring training individually. They're doing their work, they're trying to get ready. But they're thinking, this is a team that I want to be a part of. Obviously a lot of guaranteed spots on that roster. But there are some fringe guys who are probably putting in a little extra work thinking this is a team that should win a World Series. I want to be a part of that club. Right, they're the favorites now to win a World Series and the Yankees have already embraced that. I think we'll hear that throughout spring training. Aaron Boone will say this is a team built to win it all. But Bob, to your discussion about ones versus ones, do you know when you're guaranteed to have a one versus a one when you get to October? And that's what Garrett Cole is all about. That's why the Yankees have brought him in. They wanted him sitting at the standing at the top of that rotation, making them much better. But also the point that we've made a few times, they've taken away the Astros asset. The team that they're probably going to have to knock down to get to the ALCS and get to the World Series could be the Houston Astros. They've made themselves that much better and they've hurt the Astros by taking Cole. You know, one of the things I'm so glad you brought up the postseason because what we heard in that press conference, pressure is a privilege and I want to win over 30 World Series for the New York Yankees.  When you go into a postseason series, your number one guy has done it in the past and is thriving on the pressure of leading his team to a World Series title. That's pretty special.


Hi, my name is Tracy Togohama Espinosa. I'm the academic director here at Connections. And I'm also a professor at the Harvard University Extension School. I teach a course called the Neuroscience of Learning. It's an introduction to mind, brain health, and education. And I'm associate editor at Nature Partner Journal's Science of Learning. And all of these things have taught me that basically the world has not changed all that much. I know that this whole COVID situation has changed a lot for many people. But because my courses and what I do have a lot to do with being online anyways, that has not shaken me up that much. What I'm excited about is that there's so many opportunities that are likely to come about based on the changes we've all been experiencing and how we may be changing education for good, thanks to this whole situation. I also am incredibly excited to see a celebration of certain essential workers, the people who take away your trash or bring the food into the cities or who work in health care. All of these basic needs, finally, we're appreciating that all over again, which I think is really, really important. I'm most excited about the potential that we have. Once we get over this sort of survival stage and look into the future, this potential that we have to make the most of the situation, to think about things beyond just going back to the way it was, but imagining what it could be, things like drones to deliver your pizza. So the guy on the motorbike can do something a little bit more challenging for him or her or taking a lot of elements of our business online. So we don't waste time driving our cars and polluting the city to get from meeting to meeting or the possibilities of flipping these educational conferences so people get to have a calm look at the messages being sent beforehand, watch the keynotes beforehand so you can show up and spend the time digging deeper into that information. So I'm excited for the times that we're living or right now. I think they're challenging, but I think that we're gonna get through this and I think it's gonna be better than ever if we can just take advantage of the opportunities afforded us.


Hi everyone, Sean with jaspyscasebreaks.com here doing 2020 Panini Mosaic no huddle football four box break pick your team number seven all set Here is our list Sean Maddock last spot mojo with the Vikings Patriots and the Jets So we've got four sets of boxes here in front of us You can see they're all marked with mark distinct markings from the last one just to show that they're all from the same case so what we're gonna do is We're gonna roll a dice and if it's a one it's gonna be this stack on the left to this stack here Three this stack here for this stack over here on the right if it's a five or six. We're gonna re-roll so Here we go. It was a five So it's a re-roll now into four. So we're going with the stack on the far right over here So that's gonna be our stack for here. These ones will be for pick your teams eight nine and ten Let's get them out of the way for now So long boxes. He was terrible absolutely terrible See whoa, Joe Raiders are the ones that do that not chargers Little stabby stabby that's that's Oakland Chargers fans are not scary.   I hope the guy the Raiders season ticket holder once everything gets back to normal I hope he still wants to exchange those two tickets His two tickets for the Raiders game chargers at Raiders for the Raiders here I'd be so I'm gonna I'll be so happy for that First box. Good luck everyone. Let's see some crazy stuff Raiders fans.  It's like that old That old that old show Kids say the darndest things Jaylin regor NFL debut no huddle For the Eagles Aaron Salinas Larry Fitzgerald purple No huddle to the 50 for the Cardinals and Eric jock Don't have no huddle for the Eagles Aaron Salinas Dan Reno blue no huddle to 75 for the Dolphins and Sean Mattick either I for no huddle bangles Sean Mattick DeAndre Hopkins silver for the Cardinals Eric jock your rugs introductions Let's go into the Raiders and Sean Mattick Our auto Levisca Chanel jr. Rookie no huddle auto for the Jacksonville Jaguars and Barrage to car Landing Collins purple no huddle to 50 for the Washington football team Jernigan Dixon Goldie Charles Tillman blue no huddle to 75 for the Bears Jeremy Anderson Antonio Gibson running back number one For the Washington football team. This should be a photo variation Jernigan I'm not sure of Pat still in here to confirm that but this should be a photo variation rookie No huddle Washington football team Jernigan Dixon Tom Brady Tampa Bay Buccaneers Sean Mattick Devin Devere day no huddle For the Baltimore Ravens and Rio Mitchell First off the Raiders are not gonna be better than either of those teams. Raiders are trash Garbage team garbage franchise Patrick Mahomes the Kansas City Chiefs Christopher slaughter TJ Watt silver pitchfork Steelers Nathan Baker Dan Marino No huddle for the Miami Dolphins Sean Mattick Raiders had to go out to the desert For a big enough area to take that stink of a franchise and not have it Effect the neighboring communities Justin Herbert base rookie for the Chargers Mark Vassette Kyler Murray No huddle Arizona Cardinals Eric Jock Adrian Peterson no huddle men of mastery Washington football team Jernigan Dixon and Justin Herbert NFL debut for the Chargers Mark Vassette. You're funny Chris.  I don't like the Broncos just because obviously You know, I don't like the Chiefs right now because of how good they are But like hate is Raiders. It's just the Raiders Just I think my favorite thing that Joe does is Even though he hates a certain team or he like a team that he doesn't like he loves saying oh, they're not even my raider Rate my radar. I don't even pay attention to them They're they're a they're a non a non factor in regards to my my team and stuff like that He left that's his way of like trying to like shoo away a team. Oh, they're not even important enough for me to care It's funny. He's like for the angels like I don't think I really have a division team that I that I hate I equally don't like The A's the Mariners and the Rangers. I don't think there's like a team. I absolutely don't Hey, I think that's all and Astros obviously I think they're they astros have to be now like number one but I think I think my hate like typically goes to like The Dodgers the Yankees and the Red Sox just because they're fans God, they're the worst DK Metcalfs incredible Randy Joseph Stabber and then you'll pause this Charles Tillman no huddle for the Bears Jeremy Anderson Zach Moss rookie silver for the Buffalo Bills Shawn Matic Jonathan Taylor No huddle purple I actually pink So this is actually what the pinks supposed to look like right because those other pinks were so light Those other ones you could barely tell that they were pink. This one's a pink five out of 20 Indianapolis Colts Shawn Matic Tom Brady Tampa Bay Shawn Matic Kj. Hamler for the Broncos. No huddle Denver Broncos going to Ethan Klein. Is it possible Ethan from H3H3 Ethan? Ethan and Hila that's his name, right? JK Dobbins NFL debut Blue no huddle to 75 Baltimore Ravens Rhea Mitchell, that'd be kind of cool Daniel Jones. No huddle New York Giants Fawad Corey Juju Smith Schuster silver mosaic for the Steelers Nathan Baker Justin Herbert Los Angeles Chargers Mark Vassette Deshaun Watson no huddle Houston Texans And Raymond de Jesus Justin Herbert NFL debut Chargers Mark Vassette van Jefferson rookie no huddle for the Los Angeles Rams and Michael Edzema and Then Ezekiel Elliott blue no huddle for the Dallas Cowboys Ricky Holbert to 75 Jalen Hertz for the Eagles Aaron Salinas Patrick Mahomes this thing is loaded with quarterbacks No huddle Kansas City Chiefs Christopher Slaughter Jerry Judy photo variation for the Denver Broncos And Ethan Klein there you go NFL debut silver mosaic to a tag of Iowa very nice Miami Dolphins Aaron Rodgers MVP's no huddle this box is loaded Green Bay Packers Juan Zarate to a for the Dolphins Sean Maddock Darren Waller no huddle for the Raiders Sean Maddock NFL debut to a Dolphins Sean Maddock See Higgins introductions No huddle For the Bengals Sean Maddock So wait so so I don't have to see the Raiders versus the Eagles God forbid Eagles are about to go 0 and 3 and the Raiders are a joke of a 2 and 0 team right now. I'm just joking That's fine Joe you're not invited to my party either never bringing you where my friends at SoFi again Jason did you know Arrell is a Chargers fan and a season ticket holder? He was like hey dude.  He's like, okay, cool. See you at the game then. What was a jab? What was a jab? That's awesome Um, I mean, it's not a it's just you know Joe It's a it's not specifically you two just in general For the most part there's a very good chance that uh that Raiders fans I Feel like if they did a if they did a warrant check at a Raiders game Do you know how empty the black hole would be? Just saying like if they legitimately did a like a warrant check to enter Raiders stadium There would be so many people trying to scalp their tickets right outside of the stadium like oh, hey guys I can't can't make it anymore Gotta go somewhere you guys are just Salt of the earth something of the earth Joe Chris, can you imagine if somebody like Joe Arpaio was like the was like the head of the police force in like an area Where the Raiders played? Oh my god. He would set up stings on their fans every single weekend He would have a field day with that He'd be like, let's get them guys. Let's get them Jerome bettis no huddle For the Steelers and Nathan Baker Chase Claypool rookie silver for the Steelers Nathan Baker Patrick Mahomes MVP's for the Chiefs and Christopher Slaughter Eli Manning no huddle for the Giants Fawad Jalen Hertz NFL debut for the Eagles Aaron slieness Jeff Okuda Blue no huddle for the Lions numbered to 75 Detroit Rhea Mitchell Vaughn Miller no huddle for the Broncos Ethan Klein Warren sat purple to 50 for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Shawn Matic Devonte Parker silver mosaic for the Dolphin Shawn Matic Jake from rookie no huddle for the Bills Shawn Matic and Rookie fast no huddle auto for the Bills Zach Moss going to Shawn Matic Michael Irvin Hall of Fame Pink to 20 no huddle for the Dallas Cowboys Ricky Holbert Jordan Love NFL debut for the Packers Juan Zarate Anthony McFarland no huddle for the Steelers and Nathan Baker Joe Burrow no huddle and Photo variation Very nice Cincinnati Bengals Shawn Matic I almost didn't even realize that he was in his LA LSU gear. There you go, dude Congrats, man.  Remember that you had to kick out Congrats Shawn I'm glad I'm glad you got that spot. How we long no huddle for the Raiders Shawn Matic No bangles bangles Tyler Johnson Silver mosaic for the Buccaneers Shawn Matic. Oh, okay, okay, okay Marlon Mack no huddle Colts Shawn Matic. Sure. Why not? You got it Chris. I'll take requests Derek Henry no huddle blue chips and Joe Burrow Cincinnati Bengals Shawn Matic. No Joe out I think I'll take requests. I just don't promise It's like, yeah, sure. I can do it. Why not positive thinking Joe positive thinking Anybody that takes that like makes a request like that that I'm like, yeah, sure. Why not? Like I have any control over what comes up in the next box. I don't think I mean I don't doubt it at all Joe People can be special sometimes Cool box number four guys Good luck The the depravity of people Joe does not surprise me like that that thing from earlier Good call Chris. That's disgusting How do people do stuff like that? It's incredible Chris we were talking about it. I was talking about it with Nick and we were saying We were trying to figure out like where this would fall since it's a brand new set first year release and everything like that in regards to like the kind of cornerstone products and He was saying he thinks it's on par with optic And that it surpassed select. I think it's incredible They should Awesome product. I mean the look is simple. We got parallels and stuff Everybody loves it and I will say I mentioned this on Wednesday when I was opening it too Obviously not no huddle, but the regular like the choice or whatever the last time I was opening it The production on this it seems a little bit crisper than when they did the first pass on on basketball It actually looks really clean like the surfaces and stuff like that. So Yeah, that's what that Joe. That's what Nick was saying. He's like when they finally once they released once they released the like field level and the You know all that stuff. He was like He's like it just got to it got to like out of out of sorts would select Matthew Judon no huddle for the Ravens and Rhea Mitchell Lamar Jackson MVP silver very nice Baltimore Ravens Rhea Mitchell. There you go. Very nice card. Oh, we got it. Do we get a gold? We got a gold coming up. We do Devon Singletary gold No huddle two out of ten Buffalo Bills Shawn Matic No huddle black out of got it Chris Troy Aikman Hall of Fame. No huddle Dallas Cowboys Ricky Holbert Peyton Manning MVP's blue Send another box. It's loaded with quarterbacks To 75 no huddle Indianapolis Colts Shawn Matic to a base Miami Dolphins Shawn Matic Nick Vosa, no huddle 49ers TJ Leonard Steve Young Silver Mosaic 49ers TJ Leonard to a NFL debut Miami Dolphins Shawn Matic True lock. Yeah, it's another box. It's just loaded with quarterbacks No huddle Denver Broncos Ethan Klein. Oh It's not Clyde Edwards Lair, but it is Denzel Mims Rookie no huddle. I think this might do for you Chris Auto for the New York Jets Shawn Matic last spot mojo and Patrick Mahomes. No huddle blue Kansas City Chiefs Christopher Slaughter 72 out of 75 There you go, dude Brett Favre. No huddle Green Bay Packers Juan Zarate T Higgins photo variation for the Cincinnati Bengals Shawn Matic your second rookie photo variation. No huddle. The other one was Joe Burroughs from earlier Not too bad. Not too bad at all Kevin Green Silver Mosaic Carolina Panthers Corey Kimura Antonio Gibson rookie no huddle Washington football team Jernigan Dixon Clyde Edwards Lair Kansas City Christopher Slaughter NFL debut Joe Burrough Shawn Matic Bengals Sony Michelle no huddle New England Patriots Shawn Matic last spot mojo Tom Brady MVP New England Patriots Shawn Matic last spot mojo And Joe Burrough introductions no huddle Cincinnati Bengals Shawn Matic Jalen Hertz Philadelphia Eagles Aaron Salinas and Clyde Edwards Lair NFL debut the Kansas City Chiefs and Christopher Slaughter and That's the break guys That was 2020 mosaic no huddle football four box break pick your team number seven pick your teams eight nine ten and eleven all In the store right now Jasper's case breaks calm. I'm Shawn. We'll see you next time


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