It's positively brilliant Yep, shawlamain the guy Andrew Schultz.   You better put that in some context That's worse than you saying nigga, you know, they always you know, they always think you said nigga every week Don't let them Now it's look how he says blacks. No, look how he said two pock must die This is a glasses Malone song and video yeah very very and by the way before we say anything it's a good song Man just being dope You know, I tell gangster rap stories all the time, right? This is just a gangster rap story to everybody else care about It ain't nothing I'm a fan of two pock like everybody else, but it's just a gangster rap story great hip-hop Takes a mainstream topic and then get the streets perspective, right? Baby Lane is the streets perspective to this mainstream conversation and I could relate to the character enough to why I could deliver it That's all and you know it's interesting too because it's like um, it's like with any type of art, right? Like, you know, even with the what's the young lady who did the joke last week about xxx Natasha young Dina Hashem Dina Hashem yeah, that's our art right and you're entitled to create your art now you have to deal with the Consequences of whatever said art is like there's no rules for that. Yeah, can we talk about how? Comedians are the biggest gangsters in entertainment now. I agree because they say what they want to say This is this is what last week told me with the Dina Hashem joke The comedians we got to be the biggest gangsters entertainment because we have rappers talking to us like Guys, could you tone it down a little bit? That was a little distasteful, but I agree, but that's what happens and they got it to you too. I bet the rappers say That was a little much guys Put some gloves on from a different era. Yeah, we were outside. Yeah So it's easy to feel that way on social media and tell you see some other show and that's xx Natasha young family rolling with them pistols Now it's all it was just a joke.  So by the way, I'm for it all I'm for glasses making his music for shorty making the joke right you just have to deal with all Consequences of it. I really don't think mines was that bad personally Well, you were telling the story of of Tupac's death Yeah, right and and you were making the argument that he had jumped some people not me not me because that's the story That's the story that he had jumped some people from the person's perspective who got jumped, right? So that's the title. That's the song. That's the content in general is from his so this is not you saying this is what should happen You're saying this guy is like, yo, they beat me up. What am I supposed to do? Let them beat me up Simple as that right simple as that and it was based around that. Yeah, and it's based around that the whole culture You know what I mean?    Yeah was allegedly in the car freaky-drake.  Everybody doesn't the car doc. Everybody's up. He's telling the story We've been telling the story for years now. And what does he say? He's putting a little I think, you know, don't be mad But I think he put an extra because he kind of puts puff into the situation, but I doubt puff What does he say? How does he tell the story? Oh, it's all on line. Just go to Vlad's interviews. He says, um It was about money like they got paid money and then that became the opportunity to collect on the money That would be too good like you would have to be like the master chess player to Know Orlando was gonna be there in that moment. No that death row was gonna be coming out at that time I'm not by the death row. They jump him. Then Orlando would go retire like that's to like I ain't nobody that No, I'm not by it. I think really like it's the same thing that happened in our, you know Community our culture all the time it happens all the time. It's normal stuff Right, it just happened to be too famous person. And I think that's what light on it Everybody's hurt. Everybody's broken in pieces. You know what I mean? They like well glasses How can you say that and I'm like, well, it's not me even though if If the Pope is seven priests jump me the Catholic church gonna bury somebody Jesus in the 12 disciples jump me Mary gonna bury somebody like I'm just not going for that. Why can't we all just make music like chance the rapper?     He was there like guru, right? What bothered me was that there's like rappers like Joyner Lucas had like a post about it Jordan Lucas does songs with Eminem Eminem take seven kids from Columbine stand them all in line at an AK-47 or revolver or none Like where's the smoke so when the guy is paying you and the guy's putting you on and a guy's giving you an Opportunity you're right But it ain't that it's that that when Joyner Lucas here that you don't care about the kids at Columbine That's the truth to the matter. He cares about xxxtentacion. So he was a fan like that Absolutely, I think it's just virtue single I think he's I think everybody who said something about is like, yo, let me look woke for a second Let me look like I care I think for a black man It's it's traumatizing because that we see that so much in our immunity. We always feel like that could be us So it's just a much as in school shootings are for the whites. I believe that I'm serious Happening all the time so when we see that it's traumatizing so to hear somebody make a joke about it You like what the fuck? I wish I heard the joke.  It was a good joke. Decent decent decent. It was a good joke It was a good joke fighting for the freedom of it, but it was a decent joke. It wasn't hilarious. It wasn't like Oh Listen, it's basically she basically was like he was widening around with $50,000 cash has he never heard of Emil He goes he had $50,000 cash He was going to buy a car. Yeah, right and he got shot and the money was taken He got shot and killed the money was taken and I remember watching that thinking like this is the best commercial for Venmo I've ever seen Oh, that was your joke. No, that's hers. This is the best commercial Venmo everything I need it I need a Venmo account Oh, yeah, I thought she said this I thought she said he has he never heard of Venmo That's what I thought he said. I heard y'all say that on flagrant the the best commercial for Venmo I thought she said has he never heard of Venmo. No, I don't know. Maybe maybe I'm upgrading her But who knows When you the greatest The joke was decent it was a decent observation It didn't deserve all the hay is smoked. That's what I'm days like we upset about murder now really rappers Yeah, I live set by murder rappers What we gonna be upset next by drug dealing jokes. Listen, is that is that once again, it's what y'all Jokes is that gonna bother? I'm telling you we're in the blog era where squares are running everything and they are super Like I just was saying is J Cole and Drake have the two best gangster rap songs in the last two years Like so J Cole has a song called making a list checking it twice and getting people killed mm-hmm on the song This is J Cole and then Drake has a song called nonstop. We tell my you got a kill to show him you down and it's Drake and J Cole so When you walk in the room with some real gangster rap it's like They could put their nuts on the table, but there's a real gangsta nuts on the tape Right the whole tables cover and everybody is mad. They like sick I can't call it gangsta unless you willing to deal with all the smoke that comes with it because let's be clear Even though we sit here. We I didn't know X-X in Tashina.  I'd break but But I don't think that we should I don't think we should like allow or tolerate bad behavior What do you mean like I mean that's like you don't get the car You don't get the you don't you don't get to say that though. You don't get to call that but I always say You can't do some why there's rules. It's Her people yeah, this is America dog You know where we live right when you when you doing it when you doing a joke like that about X-X in Tassiana Yeah, sliding into a different lane somebody make a joke about Nipsey now you slide into a different lane now You dealing with Crips and you dealing with people in the hoods.  What do you want you to keep the same energy they retaliated against been like so you cool with that America retaliate Bin Laden Bin Laden retaliating for American intervention in Middle East. You cool with it. Am I cool with it? Exactly and listen that girl that girl who made that joke.  I can't say damn She didn't deserve that that ain't my business Say a girl didn't deserve to get How many times about my face for say that's it on the radio.  So what?   I'm gonna tell you this.  So just comedians got to take that same smoke. Listen.  I said I get death threats every week for what? I got a good one this week. Oh, can we go back and forth or death threats cuz I got I got a good mine is good. All right, you want you want to go first you want me to go first If you want I'll go all right ready here it is. What day was this? All right, this is this is a last Friday 1131 a.m.    I hope you know that Okay.   Oh, you should take that serious All right now my mind my mind is a weekly occurrence We All right, so this comes from you know, but you got security bro. Yes.   Yeah The subject is gf y I don't even know what that means Lanard the retard the message.  Oh, this is after I did MSNBC Yes, yes. Yes.  I would say is a lot of repetition That was too much time. You was a lot of swine. He wasn't gonna do that. Yeah, he's too much type of him to do something Yeah, don't it like enable don't make him prove I'm gonna tell you something for everybody that sends death threats the scary ones.  No, yeah, I know you live here I can't find a message because I laughed so hard at it and I just remember to he was like, yeah You know, I can't find it, but he said like I'll blow the top rhyming out your head Like I don't know if he was a rapper because he had metaphors. He was like, this is your address Such as such and I was I just remember DMing him back like please don't go over there dude Like it's not gonna be cool.  Yeah, this is serious. There's not no joke like This I feel privileged like last time I was here. I didn't have no death threats For sure. I got over 60. So welcome to the club.  I was like, yo, man Yes, cuz I wanted to see I go I just put the face like And then he immediately replied back bro I'm outside the station man I've been here for the past three days just trying to get at you man Like what's up?  Yeah, that that was a nice little way to get my attention. This is your last Now you can get him a lot recently on show That means you being honest dude, but that's the thing, you know, I mean like y'all know my human Honestly, you want to get death threats?  Yeah, you know what I mean? And I think that's it rock comedians.   I must know Moscow Mitch. That's my scouting. Nobody don't you think it's hate nicknames Trump won a presidency off and make it If you let if you make a nickname stick to somebody sure oh my god Especially they don't want this one guy got me I was reading death threats and I was going to a new email and that the title the email was Huge fan exclamation point. I was like, you know what?  How do y'all deal with that? It depends on like when it first started happening on social media I think I think everybody got a different reaction because we all got on Twitter.  That's when it becomes difficult. So honestly for me, um, I Just start like story in them And I'm just laughing at him. I'm like in my mentality I only laugh because it's like if you understand the kind of person I am is like I Invited this energy, right? Yeah, so it's like you think you walking into the party Special you ain't realized you got invited to the party, right?  I don't have no choice I cannot keep, you know Like when you have a powerful message, you gotta you gotta make sure people hear you So you got I have to come become so pure like my conversation need to be so Colombian so pure Yeah, that is like it just cuts through every time and it requires me to be honest and authentic and If everybody is gonna be every last person that I could think of that was like that from the stories of Jesus to Martin Luther King to Malcolm X the two-part anybody that was authentically honest they went through hell So I have to think to myself like Before I'm with dying even if like I have to be ready to kill faster And I keep telling people when I wrote this song you could bet for sure.   No, no They don't know they don't know them. They don't know them. They don't care They don't I was talking all right day on the radio doing that interview and matter of fact shout out to my homeboys the young Giants Duce Joe, but we talked about this even Metro my all my partners and I'm like, it's crazy. Nobody cares about The other guy nobody cares. Yeah, and it's like well his life in his work worth as much as Tupac says who? Like my life is worth as much as Drake's.     Did they get for killing xxx in Tatiana? Who knows? Now what we're doing The violence right and we should never be justifying crazy Like that.  Is that really worth it to save my life? I won't take your life you crazy.  That's what I'm saying so it's like but for me that's the only time but for somebody else to Risk their livelihood risk there. They probably got a family these people now getting taken away from their family They for nothing right like You're saying risk you're willing to take for that joke, of course Jeans willing to take for that song they willing to take for they people not everybody's not and I mean this because not everybody Here's the thing not everybody is built like us. So not everybody's willing to take the smoke for the art Yeah, I Love this and this is what I do my intention is never to piss these people off.  I'll never tell a joke that nobody laughs at anymore. I didn't hear a lot of people laughing at that That's that's that's that's the on joke maybe The joke got a laugh in front of a completely neutral audience. They weren't even like a laugh track from the TV network I'm beyond Comedy Central is not smart enough to even put a laugh track.  I know I do watch Trevor Noah sometime, right?  This is something I wanted to share with you. Yeah, some of those people that is their life like it's people, right? Like it's people who dedicate their life to two parts legacy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Like it's people who talk to me like they really knew him like and they dedicate You got to understand the type of human beings like I said people knew this I always say the greatest marketing meeting was the counselor And I see it that meeting in I see it was the greatest marketing meeting ever the minds that we're in that room So that's when they came together and created what we call Christianity The the Bible they selected the books in the Bible. They put together the way we would view Christianity Holy Spirit Holy Trinity everything came from that meeting. So They understood how people needed to perceive Jesus to make the whole empire of Rome follow So some of these people's Legacies are so put together so well that they draw in people to follow and that becomes their life goal It's to follow that legacy. So like he's right like it's people who follow like it's people who follow two pox page and they Every post man. They have to post every day three four times They ain't posting two pox this two pox that two pox this Every day and in my mind like it's different because I didn't even make a joke. I didn't even disrespect the nothing I'm just giving you another perspective of Actual event you feel me allegedly.  I thought about people looking at that video saying He's really dead on some bullshit Actually wants to say that about It's like if I showed you that Jesus had a wife and kids like what if I walked in here with Jesus cousin Mm-hmm, like this is really Jesus cousin and so you know, he's got to be Jesus cousin, right?  I'm like, yeah, he's from Jesus bloodline This is Jesus long-line descent, but your whole life, you know, you've been told this like we almost think Michael Jackson is a virgin No way. Yes, we seem surviving Neverland. Yeah, right?   Think about it. I don't agree Lisa Marie. I never heard her talk about sleep with Michael Jackson.  Well, I'll sleep on that Jesus Christ if I walk in here with this descendant, but you know, even though the little boys don't count I don't think you did it either, but he definitely You said that the right cuz it's like we for sure know Michael Jackson and do this I just don't understand why I don't for sure. No, I don't think he did.  I mean goddamn 17 year investigation has been feel like that about the R. Kelly stuff. No, he did it No, no because it's not R. Kelly did it R. Kelly's only problem is he don't know when to say no What his only problem is he don't know when to say no My mind's telling me no. Yeah, but his body is telling him. Yes. Yeah Yes, explain this to me G by the way, this is glad that's why when people hear this song when people hear this song and they like They're bugged. I'm like, this is glasses. Yeah, this is him. That's what I had to start really do with my music Just being more authentic and say our Kelly go to the R. Kelly. Well, R. Kelly is like what are we really mad at him about?  That's illegal. Yeah, so it's against the law, right? Yeah, so at that point it's a violation of statutory laws and morally though morally I'm like why would a 50 some of your man 40 some your man want to sleep with 13? Obviously when he was 50 but morals is a very like individualized thing Mm-hmm. Well, I think the thing about morals is that we all share them, right? No, no Well, I said morals is totally different your morals.  They all share the same morals now There are certain codes that we live by that are outside of our morality, right?  I mean people are going crazy out here. I don't know if people give You're anybody scared of God no more God listen God Motherfuckers are going crazy out so I sweat and by the way nature is that God need a better marketing plan God needs it like we listen About the counselor nice here. That's what made it so sweet But you got to think that marketing meeting last foot. I don't know 1600 years I can't take credit for this I got to give credit to a comedian and Kurt Metzger on this, but I was talking to my boy Tim Tim Dillon about this Take the joke like everybody else. It's not a joke. It's a take. Oh, it's take right and we're talking about We're talking about why what what happened is now There's no religion right and people are freaking out because you need purpose Right the average person isn't like us that they don't know their purpose I was person just going through life trying to eat and survive so they have to find new purpose, right? so they find their new purpose in They find their new purpose in veganism Feminism follow whatever it is follow Tupac right and what happens is they become religious about these new things Right do told me I was wait for it wait for right they become religious Yeah, and I didn't even go ahead.  You know what animals go through there's none of this Hey, I forgive you.  So it's like we've replaced religion with these shittier more negative forms of Religion because the crazy because they got more empathy for animals than people People that eat meat. They want them to die That's what people keep saying it's like no glasses.  We need to give people things to do and if it's not religion it gotta be it's fortnight Let it be fortnight. Let it be something where motherfuckers aren't out there just going crazy and throwing milkshakes on people for no reason Yeah Powerful voice in the room my man Taz David Anderson is here back but back to the R Kelly thing like I was saying to you right violated statutory laws Why do we treat him like a rapist? He is a rapist though. I think he's a rapist because you take away people like I always feel like when you take away Somebody's power of choice is criminal when you were 40 something your old man 50 something your man late 30s And you talking to a 13-year-old 14-year-old She's not really giving her a choice because she's really not even capable of making her own good decisions yet That's the argument for that's a statue. That's what I'm saying That's the argument for stat because like the argument is like the number 18 is arbitrary, right? Exactly every country got a different number the number is essentially when do we think a girl's old enough to let a guy Kick grown-up game at her. That's really what we that's the number.  They're like 13 Right now in Japan So he shouldn't went to Japan that's the other reason I'm not saying he shouldn't go to jail I'm not in disagreement on that. I'm saying why do why do we as a black society when we know in our culture? Men have entirely been talking to young girls Forever, but why is he getting the blame like he's for sure not the guy that Everybody wanted to give our Kelly pussy because we got 13 14 15 year old girls listening to his music So they're fans. There's collateral damage to change dog. He broke the law I agree but we don't look at people Morals are legislation that he knows cuz we that's my point like Morally, do you think he's wrong? Listen everything about he's done Mrs. Collin this man should have been a lawyer. He's like the next Johnny No, no, listen, I'm not saying he's not wrong Why are we treating him outside of anything more than a criminal for breaking statutory laws because we're told to My point Let me talk about this one minute. I'm confused Three years ago. I came on a breakfast club. You asked me about Bill Cosby. Yes And I was like did Doc Winner tell you to take off our Kelly's records. You said no I said did anybody tell you y'all gonna ban our Kelly burn our Kelly none of that you said no I said so everybody's just as guilty and until such time as you give Cosby the same type of treatment until until Steven Collins Gets the same type of treatment.  We just let it science. Oh, that's not our problem So rather Burke went on record the founder me too movement and said, oh, well, you know, why would I go after white men?   I could do this all day with Harvey Weinstein What's the guy from that from Are you implying that white pedophiles don't go to jail? No, I'm implying that when it comes to celebrity white pedophiles They don't go to jail. That ain't true. That's like me too. We started with going with killing white people white guys What's the new browser cards? But he lost everything hold on he got his charges dropped because there were no charges because he hit on an 18-year-old But his career and livelihood is done for this white protection Kelly's still out here doing shows this Zemimbia Here he was still doing shows This idea that like like when you speak about right defend whiteness Nobby is the problem with with the argument that I've often heard is it's a distraction from the main point, right? It's like right. We start the argument with hey This guy's a pedophile as a bad guy and then the argument turns to but what about white pedophiles And now we stop talking about the pedophile Listen show hands how many people were molested by somebody who was older than them defy molested. Um, well in Charlemagne's case Girl I had like a friend's older sister like rubber butt against my dick when we worked at his pizza shop when I was like 12 But like I was looking forward to it every day I'm gonna ask this question when you was young glasses. I leave at 6, I was 18 Oh, okay, you know how to hold the woman touch on you and every last girl I've ever dated has always been over 18 And I'm not saying that because of the law I'm saying Right from the perspective of the girls I was getting peed on they liked it Do we not care there's the truth they were trying to complain they have never complained. They did a whole dog Because he slept with her in the knees every girl Never complained Neither did Regina and George Daniels complain Like I don't understand the point y'all trying to make Our Kelly deserves to be in jail for the rest of his natural life make no mistake about oh, I'm sorry He does no he does because when you were when you listen what I told Charlemagne three years ago Oh So Charlemagne say, you know, I thought it was cool. I was getting head I say yeah, but that's a physical response to stimuli that is not consent from no Just because it gets hard left to me Right just because your dick gets hard doesn't necessarily mean that you're consenting to that because you just know it feels good You don't have the adult mind to understand what comes with very true So that's a problem and the same thing definitely goes for our Kelly our Kelly deserves to be where he is My problem with that is already being jail. Okay. My problem with that is Not only does our Kelly deserve to be in jail Steven Collins deserves to be in jail Phil Spector deserves to be in jail Woody Allen deserves to be in jail Morgan Freeman deserves to be in jail Freeman Yeah, oh what is that granddaughter? We just gonna gloss over his step-granddaughter We got Steven Collins Steven Collins from 7th Heaven who so has never been pulled out of syndication While the Cosby show was pulled out of syndication only saved by TV one So what I'm saying is listen if you decide to touch someone under the age of 18 Yes, and you are over the age of 18 you have broken the law But I felt small enough to do it in the state where that's only in certain states Listen, I'm not here for this. I'm like I understand the whole age of consent thing Yeah, and I'm gonna 18 any different besides the way I was raised in California the laws the law though We're all like see Nazi now you talking to our law. So let me tell you First Oh That's my God, that's what so funny people like you Tupac mantras like it's great, but point. I'm saying right is 18 the right thing he goes the law, but I'm outlaw you don't want to be an outlaw about the Law by this Citizen cuz I don't agree, but this is the thing right Talking about pedophilia G See that's it That's not see pedophiles another overused word because people just like using it like it's ever filed when somebody's a certain age when they become A teenager after puberty pedophiles are reserved for people before puberty and it matters the truth matters You got the truth has to matter so before I start call this man a pedophile You got to show me somebody that ain't had they puberty now do he like bitches entirely too young?   You're saying but again. He fucks all the girls. I'm not saying he shouldn't go to jail No, he fucks 64 I See no woman with a ARP card hanging out of the R. Kelly car. You don't get the cognac age She don't get the cognac is a fresh out the bar. Yeah, that's fresh out the bar. Yeah, they don't cancel out I don't want to I don't want to misrepresent Who I get it that the mob got a pitchfork out. They got they torches.     Yes, so you got to call our Kelly a Pedophile again by definition. It's a good point.  I agree. That's my point I'm not for one saying our Kelly should not have to deal with his when I sell drugs when I got in trouble for shooting That people I went to jail. I respect the legal system.  Oh man. The system is against me Our Kelly is somebody that is a little messed up He can't read or write it not and I'm not making excuses. He got whatever prison sentence coming to him It's no way we should give him life Now you get life. No, no, I'm gonna tell you why 30 years of doing this. Yeah, 30 years of doing this going in To marry a 15-year-old But again again 40 years ago, that's not crazy I think you should get life simply because simply because he never learned from any of his mistakes It was never a mistake. He meant it the first time he did and he kept doing it.  Let's take pedophilia off the table.  He's not holding nobody gets there. Oh, bro Listen, I watched that whole special that lady said did you it's the best part?  Yeah, and I was so upset.  So we took my early 90s That ain't that far low for when your grandfather married your grandmother entirely too young. It's not that far away You can't look at yesterday's with today's eyes.  Oh, he knows you do it It's not like he was breaking the law like this is a lia. This is my girl. It's my wife He knew he was breaking the law like Tiger was ready to die for Kylie. No in a real way He was out in public with it like this mind red shirt and the potential life.  Oh, yeah, right Son she lived she and there was like art details of her saying I wanted it so bad But he refused for like three years let her live in the in the Michael and R. Kelly and everybody use that excuse too.     You just gave lifetime a special Love tiger what that got to do with anything Unless your mental like for me underage matters my intellect allows like I can't date nobody under 22 G it's a reason you walked in that studio and knew those girls underage immediately It was something about my brain processes totally different like if I see a girl don't hold up Let me just I'm not above nothing. So let me tell the truth. No, I'm not why I have never slept with a girl under 18 My whole life. I've seen a girl in Germany that was 16.  This bitch was bad as a motherfucker at 16 And we're trying to give me some pussy and it took all the California niggie in me not to take it Because she made sure I knew it was legal and it just still felt wrong because that's what And that's the thing it's all of me.  Yo, man 40-something. Yo, man to be sleeping with a 15 16-year-old girl my mind I don't even say yo when I see dudes at a 40-something messing with 21.   Yeah, good-looking. The only way you're gonna ask that question is if Betty white comes on Right The little girl from I don't know I'm not gonna deal with him, but you is the man But again, that's what I said 20 hold on you would see the 22-year-old girl right now No, cuz he have a daughter daughter this 20 is weird to me like I wouldn't do it either Yeah, I mean, I'm a faithful black man anyway black Hypothetically speaking What would you do you would not sleep with a 22-year-old smoke show of a woman right now just cuz you have a daughter That would kill me outside of this.  We could we could take this on the road The moral story is R. Kelly does not deserve Yes, he does Only I'm not defending like I've heard that before people get so I'm like, let's just stick with the facts What about the people that was driving him to high school so he could post up What about the people that was bringing these chicks to him so that he was like 28 What about when he was starting in 40? They wasn't doing it then bro. Yes, they were no that's not they were doing that's not the story by their own admission They were doing I'm saying even in they talked about this was before he was on he stopped driving high schools at three Y'all away on but I'm gonna tell you something. This is a true only glasses alone with defend I'm not defending or Kelly only glasses alone. I'm not defending right now. He's the biggest crew. There's a difference He's not the finish or Kelly ever What are you just cruel? Can we keep things in perspective so we can give issue out real and fair justice not emotional justice That's all i'm saying he peed on a 13-year-old girl and she loved it and he should go to jail No But let's make sure we understand that this girl his problem is not knowing to say no I'm not going to pee on her Like he kidnapped her and peed on her because that's how we're treating you don't know what's on them other tapes too It's like 20 30 other tapes But this the thing and just like that like i'm just I don't want to paint him In a unfair light. I want to get justice should be served for the people that there's no victims Glasses you ain't that good of a artist, bro I know you can write and you can rap. There's nothing you can do to write or kelly in a fair light at this point There's nothing you're right. That's like nothing But I can't help it that it's it's burning in me to be fair And that's why people think i'm a contrarian. I don't think there's anything unfair happening to him It is it's what's unfair is that we're right now as a society saying he should go to jail Right, he broke the law. So I get it, right? We need justice for him violating the statutory laws But let's keep it certain. He's not a pedophile. We don't got to call him that I don't know. What do you call that? What do you call that? It's ebbafile ebbafile ebbafile It's ebbafilia ebbafilia I've never heard that before I know right I had to read it So ebbafilia is what? It's not that it's glasses for real It's it's it's post puberty Okay But i'm saying it matters it matters because how we view pedophiles We're thinking of pedophiles. We're comparing somebody sleeping with a five-year-old a three-year-old a seven those fit those narratives not some little A fast teenager Are there laws in the books against ebbafilia? Gotta be No, there's law. No, listen That's why I keep sitting. No, it's not that's only a different state Different state, but I mean I think the lowest might be 16 But the point is that's my point But we all have been brainwashing certain places like me whereas 18 I will not look at a girl under 18 because of these laws No, I think it's your morals. You said you was in Germany No, but that's because I haven't raised my whole life to believe the age was 18 I think your morals kick in and you realize this is wrong There's no I hope so There's a grown man who's intelligent. That's that's it would make good decisions That's like a girl 20. She can't talk to me like but but I also like I read every day.  I'm smart So I probably would want to talk to someone but if I can't read or write like r kelly I don't know what kind of girl he's gonna feel superior. I don't think that's not an excuse. I don't think that's an excuse It's plenty of it's not it's no excuse, but it's no excuse. I'm saying It's no excuse r kelly broke the law He should go to whatever the proper punishment is But let's keep it within the realm of proper punishment. Let's not go out the out the water I don't think he hasn't been punished yet. So I think he'd get I think whatever he gets for 30 years of edificio He deserves Longest we're saying what he's getting and and and the fact that he was flaunting in people's faces Man, you writing songs about it. He's down. You married a 15-year-old and wrote a song for Say all the bad things. So let's just talk about this for a minute when you look at the Pied Piper the reason that the Pied Piper is such a Uh, a sticky term is because when the Pied Piper didn't get his check He came and took all their children. They were never seen or heard All the children and they were never seen or heard from again And he let him out of the village with music I am not saying just listen olji I am not saying right that he does not I am I agree justice should be served right But let's keep it within a realm of justice that i'm not disagreeing with what i'm saying is he keeps Like my whole thing is don't throw marvel cinematic universe easter eggs at society and think that it's cool That's right and that's my point. So like I said the Pied Piper is one then um, what was the other one?  He blew him up.  It's like a A serial killer. That's that's the best that is the best Point I've heard about this and I never thought about what that he throws up No, like because I do the captain Yeah, I've told you that a million times. Yeah, I never He married aliyah. Aliyah was what 15 he wrote her first thing was called age ain't nothing but a number I'll do you one better because you missed something when he did that song vibe At the end of vibe he starts shouting out all these people who have that vibe meaning they can catch it And aliyah was about 12 13 years old then and he says aliyah's got that vibe If I'm lying, I'll send you to thailand. Let's run these receipts. How old are the girls?  Um, I don't know. I didn't participate in that. I'm a married man But I agree he should I agree justice should be served. I just don't want to treat him like a rapist He is though. He's not he's a form of rapist. There's levels to rape.  Yes, okay, that's a and what he was doing was a form of rape If someone if someone has if someone has mental deficiencies sure and they get uh, they get taken advantage of by someone's older who has their Um faculties is that rape in your mind? Sure. Okay. So if someone is more mature has means As far as age goes, I'm sorry the man is a genius. He might not be able to read rap But he's a genius and he knew good in hell well what he was doing That's why I do agree if in fact someone who has that has everything that you like I mean even some more did a joke about getting young boys and she would sit up there and say I got that mad in 2000. I got that mad. I said I said outside the uh, chuckie cheese talk about I got that mad in 2000 You see what I'm saying? If you know how to entice my point is real quick My point is if you know how to entice somebody and you create an environment where it's comfortable It might not feel like we created the environment. Yeah, we did I'll tell you a lot of I'll tell you that we allowed him to do that And we allowed him to create an environment that entice those young girls to come in and he would tell Annie would tell women I'll give you a record deal. I'll put you on Like that. Yes. Yes. I'm not again. I'm not I'm not the record label I'll talk to the record label in 2000 whatever but I'm saying I'm not disagreeing that he is not wrong of crimes Like he deserves to be punished for I can't say that as a criminal, but he's a he got what he got coming to him Just like I can have what I got coming for him feel me, but I don't like how our society is treating He's not a rapist. It's a real serious work. He's a rapist and and By definition, he's definitely a rapist.   No, he took advantage of taking away people's power of choice But but he didn't take away nobody definitely did no because they're not only enough to choose That that but that's the point They're not only enough to make a good choice by a legal standard And I agree. I agree even on a mental.   We supported it. We played it.   He's got some type something some type of tickle Where he likes young girls and that's my point, but I also like I said, I just want to be clear on What's really going on again Don't get under these comments and be like man. Gee just defending the pet. I'm not I'm telling you he's not a pedophile by definition By definition So let's not compare him to somebody sleep with a three-year-old because it's a little different when somebody goes through their menstrual cycle When they start and they start looking towards god, yes, you this if you had to write a record Yeah Called r kelly must die and it was from the perspective of one of those young girls. How what would what would you What would these bars? What would the empathy be? What would your angle be? It would be hard because I know that they want to give him vagina. Well, no, I'm gonna tell you These women are older now And they know that they were taking advantage of when they were younger. Do they really? Yes. That's why they're doing this Surviving on kelly. That's only one girl under age in that whole doc Right now with sparkle junior and again don't take this personal like you are But sparkle junior that was the best thing that ever happened to her life to this point The girl that got peed on yes, we don't know what she became She became a syspel skit somebody else pissing on her that ain't our kelly lord. Have mercy.  I'm going to pee He got to get this out of his system bro. 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Okay Hold on basically and as you get it up basically they're having a conversation about parents Um letting their kids decide what gender they are at You know, let's say to age three and then starting to give them hormones. You got it.   Where is like that?  You might let him eat. What do you want to eat? But I want candy.   Like sometimes somebody got to be reasonable. No, I agree. It is.    He did not say that He never said anything of this sort. He didn't say that by the way If your kid comes to you at three and the kid goes If it's a little boy like I really I'm a girl Or if a kid comes to your girl and says, hey, I'm a boy I I'm what I'm posted. I don't even know. I see step three. Yo, what am I supposed to say to them? I'm not gonna discourage them. It's gonna be like All right, good. Keep going. That we'll see how you feel next year. Let's watch them Let's play some watch watch sponge bobbins. I don't know What does that even mean to be a girl at three? What are you doing at three as a girl?  It's an absurd It's an absurd idea Even dresses are an absurd idea dresses. It's a social construct, right?   I think it's child abuse if you're pumping your three-year-old kid full of hormones That's my thing now anybody that's going to that going that far. We're at a three-year-old That's wild get the kids some time. You know what I'm saying? I got a three-year-old at home, right? This perfect very aware. She's very aware like she'll be she'll say things. I don't like boys But she's she'll be talking about me. You know, I'm saying if I try to kiss. I don't like boys All right, cool. I don't I'm not gonna. Oh, yes. Yes. You gotta like boys. Yeah. Yeah, that was her thing That's her opinion. But you better do that. It's not like you go. Okay. She's a lesbian. Let me put her in Exactly Listen, you know, I'm saying you don't let her watch set it off. You know what I'm saying? What do you identify with on this screen? I like the queen Like she's three right You know, it's you have to it's it's an absurd thing that we're doing and it just goes back to what we're talking about earlier People just need some sort of purpose. They need some sort of distraction Like if you're leaning into that and then criticizing the people that are being most rational But I also wonder how many people actually heard what he said as opposed to read the headlines That's not what everybody else was saying Because if you actually heard what he said, there's no way you could be mad at it And and some of them are dude, some of them listened to the whole interview I grew with you a thousand percent, but some of them watched the whole interview It's only three minutes that little clip is three minutes So it's not like you have to watch this big thing. They watch it and they were still upset bees They so vehemently believe that you should be able to switch a kid's gender at that age And that's what I'm saying. That's that's what happened when Drake and J. Cole leads in gangster app Doug I'm gonna be honest with you. This is crazy. This might be crazy, but like are you saying you're trans gangster? No, I'm just oh my god. Why not hold on.  They're letting their young kids wear makeup like that's weird to me That's weird.   Not super high heels Hello, kid. Neils is okay. That's what are kicking. Yo, can I tell you something? I've never said this ever before? cats No, listen when I was five years old, right? That was four going on five. I was in kindergarten or heels, bro Yo, come on This is important First of all, right? There was a halloween. There was a halloween content at my elementary school And the prize was that castle grace gold for he-man. Yes. So my mom and my I got together. Oh, we're gonna win this Okay, so they sat up there and they they sewed up a costume. It was a dress and they turned me to strawberry shortcake I fooled everybody. Did you win?  Strawberry shortcake is cool though Yeah, strawberry shortcake is cool But the thing if it was like it did not make me want to be a person wearing a never wore a dress again You might not have gotten enough compliments in that dress even though I fooled the entire school the teacher didn't even recognize what they're saying you look good though If they were like, yo, you look good in that dress. You probably want to wear more dresses I always thought I was a beautiful little girl I got that for a boy though.  Yeah When I was like When I was I was like early 20s. Yeah got them arched for a woman a woman gasped me up You would look so good with arch eyebrows. You know who arches they eyebrows Tupac arches his eyebrows. I'm like for real Yeah, she's showing me. I'm like Tupac arches eyebrows It's a lot of no, I'm gonna tell you so I went to the barber shop People have a lot of like, but you know, you I think that's fresh off the print. Hold on.    You know why because girls was telling me I look good in that Better than mine Tomorrow and said listen, we are about pirate motifs. You see so many dudes chopping off their legs and getting a pair Men do what gets them late So we're skinny jeans and baggy jeans, whatever jeans we see not we some of us I think what you say about the prince I don't know. That's on the rim could Prince Rick James all of those guys were Change the game. They were gender fluid. If you really being honest, yeah, they were Yeah, and we'll take your check In a heartbeat in a heartbeat Rick James was smashing him boy Rick James was the real So that's my point. That's that's what I've been saying. Can I ask you about certain things and see if you believe in them or like What your take is? Sure. Okay dinosaurs What why not? Yes, yeah 100 down I mean, it's something that I really aided another research. So I would have to be yeah vaguely sure I seen enough movies I'm just saying I can't like right. Yeah, I never researched it You gotta have it back in the month I've had this conversation with people about dinosaurs and it's wild to me that people don't agree with dinosaurs You drive a car that operates off of fossil fuels.  Yeah 100% Yeah, not even thought you guys all believe aliens. How can you not? Look at the way humanity we go from we go from caves to carts to horses to cars to microwaves to cell phones A computer in the 50s took like 10 people to carry now It's more in this than was in the daggone moon landing whether or not the moon landing happens a whole another conversation You don't believe in the moon landing. That didn't happen I'm questioning the moon landing now. I think you that didn't happen. I think we landed I think that it's possible. They recreated the video because they didn't have a video that was good But I do think they went up there because they went back Well, not once you go and nothing's there No, they haven't went back. They've been sending stuff, but they haven't went back. They haven't sent another person back Yeah, I mean they they have videos of of uh, the moon now like roving videos that Satellites that's that that are closer that No, that didn't happen. Not at all 100% that didn't happen.   Oh, it doesn't go down and just rotate I swear I came here to talk about business The moon landing didn't happen though moon landing I questioned the moon landing that's fluff I thought we were gonna get something big with dinosaurs, bro. I really thought I'm sorry, I don't even you're flat earth No, I said he's got too much That that kind of debunks that for me because it takes longer to get here than it does It takes longer to go home than it does to get here. Yes. That's for sure I tell us so so we all agree mario Lopez wasn't wrong Dude not at all and if you disagree with him, can you just have a civil conversation with him? But can you have can you sit down and school him as to why maybe a three-year-old is able to determine what their gender identity is Can you instead of just canceling him and all kind of we want slate saved by the bell pulled out of syndication What? Yeah What do those parents say to their kid when their kid goes I don't want to go to school Do they just go oh, I guess you don't go to school. Yeah Like at what point do you stop listening to your kid because it's for your kid's benefit because clearly you're going to make Decisions for your kid for the next until they're 18 years old I told my daughter this morning. My daughter's 11 years old. She was at camp They did a test for deep deep swimming deep water swimming She didn't pass the test even though she can't swim in deep water, but she didn't pass the test So they was like, okay, you got to wear a life jacket. She's defined She's like, I'm not wearing a life jacket if I can't swim without a life jacket. I ain't swimming Okay, cool. But guess what I tried to explain her this morning You made a choice you made a decision and it wasn't a good decision And the reason it wasn't a good decision because you wanted to get in the water Without a life jacket when there are adults there that are your counselors who are saying No, you need a life jacket because we don't want anything to happen to you So they made a good decision for her based off what they saw because she's only 11 and not capable of making all the best choices yet So imagine a three-year-old Bro, can you believe we're having this conversation? No, I can't what has happened to america where the adults have to I want everybody to look at it from this perspective people fear what they don't understand Right, so he does not understand it.  I see that right, you know me So that's why I'm really specific back to that about who we call one like less because I can't turn that off like I can't You know, I don't have that hate, but I am so confused as to what's going on and I don't like feeling confused like Like I'm very like I've never said I dislike tupac. I never said I hate tupac. I never said you definitely got tupac Disrespect. I have no tupac tupac.  You're haters like no, I think larry bird is better right now He has to prove he's better.  I'm giving you words. I'm not you don't think LeBron better than larry bird. No, no, I think he got bird He got bird. I think he got bird. He got bird. He don't got Jordan yet. He got coby He's not even he's not a shooting guard. He's not in it. Why is he better than larry bird? And what is he better than larry bird? He's more athletic than bird That's that's not a real pastor and bear was a great pastor. He's a better pastor. He was a great pastor though That's it. That's interesting. LeBron's better. LeBron's a better player How is he more dominant?  I don't judge basketball like everybody else I'll never compare LeBron James to Michael Jordan. They play Shooting guard small for it. Not to magic. It's a point guard not to tim duncan as a power for it Only have to be more accomplished and more winning than larry bird. I'll give it up to LeBron. He's the greatest small forward of all time I don't know how he is. He's better than pippin. He's better than but the pippin and bird are the two best people for sure So he's still I think he's past bird. I think he's asking you why I think he's a better score I think that he's a better and the score. He's not a better shooter But I think he's not a better score because he doesn't have more ways to score the ball than larry bird He can get buckets isn't it just put the ball on them all? Don't think LeBron got more ways to score than bird. No, he's a better rebounder. He's a adverse score A million moves a better jump shot and could finish just as well. No LeBron is a better finisher. He's a better defender. He's a better passer. He's a better rebounder he's a better rebounder for sure. He's never had his 10 rebounds. Larry Bird has had his 10 rebounds, probably five or six. Let's look at statistics. Let's look at statistics. I never looked that one up. What is going on? I just think LeBron's better because I got eyes. No, you think LeBron's better because he can jump high and run fast. I just think he's better than Bird. And Bird is a beast. No, you think he's better because he can jump higher and run faster, but that's the problem. That does not make you great at basketball. It just means you run high. LeBron James, he got calm alone body with like Scotty Pippin skills.  You got three? I mean, listen. They both have three rings. They both got three. That's the problem. You got to pass this man for me. Larry has 13 seasons. LeBron has 16 so far. No, unhealthy. LeBron has been healthy 16. Larry's last three years. Two were real bad. Two or three were bad. LeBron has 13 playoff appearances. Bird had 12 in his 13. How many finals are there in this? 15 All-Star Games goes to LeBron versus Larry's 12. Four MVP season MVP goes to LeBron. LeBron is a three-time finals MVP versus Larry Bird at two. LeBron has 12, NBA All-Star 13.  Yeah, I mean, when you talk numbers, if we're just talking numbers and not emotional events, LeBron is murdering him. But that's only, but I'm gonna tell you why. So now we're gonna throw up the numbers. If you're counting 16, no. I'm saying if you're counting 16 years, Larry Bird has never not made the playoffs. Ever. Ever. That's not true because. In first year of the league, he did not make the playoffs. Yes, he did. No, he didn't. This is that. He was in college his first year in the playoffs. He made the playoffs the first year. He was, wait, wait, wait, sorry, let me tell y'all a word. Well, I didn't say no joke. That's it, he was in college the first year of the playoffs. He got drafted and had to go back to college. See, nobody know this happened. See, this is, this is a bar for you niggas. He got drafted and went back to college. People didn't know that that used to happen. Larry Bird took the Celtics from the playoffs. Bird played 13 seasons in the league. Yes, right. But he only went to the playoffs 12. 12 times. Listen, what I'm saying, that was his last year. But let me, let me get you one. No, he went to the playoffs his last year because I remember that game. His first year. He lost to the Pistons, I think, his last year. His first year in the NBA, he won 61 games. He took the Celtics. He was the only change from 29 wins to 61 wins. Verify that. Larry Bird is a fantastic small forward. No one's behind that. No, listen. No, listen. His time in the NBA, right? He maximized his time more than LeBron James. Can I ask him? As a winning player, yeah. Points per game, 27.21 average for LeBron, 24.3 for Larry. But take their best season. No, take it because you're talking about somebody who played three seasons that went against their averages. Yeah, but this is something that people don't realize. Can we just talk to them? Staying healthy is part of the game. If you can't stay healthy. Now, we're talking about the best ability is availability. Of course. Then that's his point. That's part of the game. But I'm saying LeBron is more available. But now you have to maximize the opportunity of being there. At what point do we just take the best year of someone's career and then go, well, I guess they're better than this guy because this year they average this? Well, I'm not going to reduce it down to that. Let's talk about Larry. But you are reducing it. Because you're knocking a few years off of. If you're going to knock three years off of Larry, why don't we knock the three worst years off of LeBron and then we'll just look at LeBron says. Because he actually was healthy every year he played. Who says LeBron's not healthy? LeBron? LeBron wasn't healthy last year. You could knock that off. You could knock that off. Well, they didn't make the playoffs, so. He still averaged 27 last year. My point is you're willing to take three years off of Larry. So let's take three worst years off of Larry. I'm not taking three years off of Larry. I'm in LeBron. I'm not taking three years off of Larry or giving three years to LeBron. What I'm telling you is, if you're in the NBA, the ultimate goal is to win. If you have 17 years available to you and you can't outwin someone who had 13 years available. So you're basing this off winning percentage, not skill set. That's the key. Well, skill set is not even close. So here's what I would say. Larry Bird is a more skilled player than LeBron. Nah, I don't agree with that. Larry Bird is a more skilled, better than LeBron. Even if we're talking about numbers and we're talking about points and all that, even if you just compare their best season, LeBron is smoking it. 31.4 points per game versus 29. LeBron is green and small for the ball time, but no. You can't argue the numbers. If we're just talking about their best season. Now, what's their best score? What's the best rebounding? Bird out rebounds. Bird out rebounds in 11, 11, 8.6. And LeBron out of system, yeah. So at that point, so at that point is, winning is the last conversation. They're both in the same conversation. Winning. So that's the case. Listen, I kind of agree with you. For free. I'm demanding a for free. I am demanding to pass Larry Bird. That's not. So you've got to get a. I don't think that's crazy. I had the same argument with LeBron versus Jordan. So if that's the case, if that's the case, Scottie Pippin the greatest ball for the ball time. Because he's not the lead of the team. So I understand that. He's not the lead of the team. Scottie was not. He's not like he was like a sidekick. No, yeah. He really wasn't. He shouldn't be respected. Not really. He's a sidekick. The reason I said Scottie wasn't a sidekick is when Jordan was gone, they won 55 games and went to the Eastern Conference finals. Wait, wait, wait. And during that time, do you know what Pippin did? He put up his foot because he had a Jordan. He had it on the Jordans and he was like, come back. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because Robin couldn't cut it in Gotham without Batman all the way. One day and it's the same thing. I don't think he was. He just listen, Michael Jordan, LeBron James and Larry Bird all play the same towards their team. They're the they're the center of the universe. So that's why I compare him. My thing with LeBron James, more time available. The ultimate goal is winning. Right. So one more. No, you have to win four titles. So here's my question. What about going to the finals nine times? Does it only count when you win the title? How many times do you win the title? It only matters when you win a title at this level. What about the 10 final, 10 finals appearances in 17 years? Nine and I'm not going to hold it against him that he lost six. But he went nine times. Exactly. Because going still matters. But because Larry Bird didn't go certain years, you're not punishing him for the years that he didn't go. That's why I'm not going to punish LeBron for losing the years he went. Right. It's all about winning. So they've won the same amount and LeBron's stats are better. Therefore, he's better. No, no, he has to win more. His stats are because he's been in the NBA more. He has one more though. No, he hasn't won more tights. Not ring counts. That's the win. No, no, the stats are better with however many years you want to cut it. He has better stats. Again, again, I'll tell you this again. If you take the best... What's Pippin' Sets and Bird's Sets? That's different. That's like 17 and... Pippin' like 17, 18, 19. But the point I'm saying is, Andrew, I demand a fourth ring. I demand either a scoring title.  You give me something that says four. That's not enough. How many bird don't have four? Yeah, two. That's what I'm saying. And Bronco, four. What I'm saying, if you have five more years available... Okay, here's a separate conversation. And Bronco didn't want it like 10 times. After a while, he was like, we can't keep giving it to him every year. Since you need to do the Jordan. I want to throw this out. This is totally a separate conversation, but I had this conversation. It's a very funny comic from L.A. His name is Jack Knight. We are in Montreal for this comedy festival, just for that comedy festival. And we're just riffing. He brought up a very funny thing. And he goes, Trump got none of the people, Trump got no jobs for the people he promised to get jobs for, and tons of jobs for the people that he didn't intend on getting jobs for. So the coal miners and that kind of shit, they're not getting a job. The factory workers, they still haven't gotten their jobs, but we have a Black Lady sketch show on HBO. We got tons of minority. Trump didn't get debt. Some might say it's a reflection. It's the Batman effect. It's the Batman effect. When Batman put on the cape and the cow, then all of a sudden you got, you wind up penguins and killer clowns and women dressing up as BDSM cat women. Boy, if you vote for Donald Trump, because he got Robin Thee to show you're crazy. No, no, not Donald Trump. It's unintentional. Who's the Robin Thee? Love her about it. This way he's saying it's the unintentional effect, but what happens is you have this guy in the office that is looked at as this racist and homophobic and all these things. So then you see in entertainment.  That goes to your point too about parents. When you say parents wanna come off as progressive, when it comes to their three-year-olds. 100%. So it's like executives too. To prove I'm not a Trump supporter. The show's the kid. I'm not racist. Look how many Muslim trans people I made a show about. Boom, exactly. Interesting thoughts. Let's keep trumping for another four. I'm gonna get this late night talk show.  Yeah. Sounds like a new picture to me. That was always gonna be a task anyway. What? Factories in coal. Coal mine. We knew that was never coming back. But it is interesting how it ended up working out. That's like trying to convince somebody that like sleeping with a 15-year-old is okay. Like, it's not happening. Don't look at me. I'm not saying so.  All right, finding the right freelancer for your business. That's all I'm saying. I'm saying it's against the law. Let's pay some bills. Glass is the load of his name, ladies and gentlemen. 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But listen, once again, once again, that's why when people hear the song, Tupac must die, Tupac deserves to die. This is glasses all the time.  What's wrong? It's art and people are not ready to just be objective about art.  Let's talk about something else, God. We're not going to talk about R. Kelly anymore. We're not talking about R. Kelly. R. Kelly's in jail. All right, let's talk about how to help black people make some money. Let's go. We had bully con last week. Made a lot of money.  So we gave our 15K, tripped to Thailand. We had a pitch competition. Had all types of... You know what you can do in Thailand? You know what? Jesus Christ. I asked when you left the room, what was it? He was not like... What did he do in Thailand? Because he told Glasses, he's like, I forgot what they meant. He was like, I'll bet you a trip to Thailand. I'm like, why Thailand? Because I have a partner resort in Thailand.  I don't know what's going on. So basically, Thailand is a part of Thailand. That's for me to name it as podcast. I don't know what's going on. God damn. It's that new name of the show, One Night in Thailand. One Night in Thailand. There's a district in Thailand where you can... Don't worry about it. Let's keep going. Let's talk about the debate right now.  There's just a lot of like, sex trafficking out there. I had a good conversation. We were talking about the debates last night. Did you watch? What's the name? Yeah, so it was the one that came on Tuesday night.  She had some poignant things to say about reparation. She killed, oh, I see her. You see what I'm saying? She was the most searched person on Google, right? See what I'm saying? She's coming with the tangibles. The tangibles. She didn't, see, here's my thing. This is my, this is my deck point. She's closer than everybody else. She's closer than your girl. Every single person on that stage last night had plans. No, they never said numbers. They never said... Yes, they did. What are y'all talking about? She was like, we need to just go and break bread. We need to go ahead and... By the way, she's talking about, she wants to actually give people money. Your girl, your girl Kamala is like, well, I think we need to study that because it's complicated. Yeah, I'm not a master wearer. And we need to talk about education and criminal justice.  Yes. When it comes to this, absolutely. Because the one issue that matters to me. That's the only thing we're gonna get. Because let me be honest. I ain't getting that. Yo, I'm in a room full of one percenters.   You're starting now. Like, that's... Oh, come on, bro. It's the only issue that should matter. You should show one percenter. That's the only thing that should matter to a back person. It's represent...  You should only act like you're not. This is my whole point with this whole conversation. We have gotten so far away from actual substance in our political arena that all we care about is moments in sound bites. I love Marianne Winston. I've been watching... I've been watching Marianne Winston since she was coming on Oprah in the 90s. She's all over Oprah's Super Bowl Conversation. We had on the breakfast club way back. Like, I love her because she talks about the healing of America. All that stuff she's saying on stage about. Dealing with your trauma and your hurt. She's been on that. She actually got a book called The Healing of America that's actually great. She's out in 97. So I like Marianne Winston. All I'm simply saying is she gave you moments. She gave you things that sounded good. Elizabeth Warren, Senator Bernie Sanders, Mayor Pete Tim Ryan, they were all up there talking about actual policies, legislations, Medicare, things that could possibly get through Senate. She just gave y'all things that made y'all feel good and everybody started searching her and saying it's going viral. So my thing is, do we actually care about substance or do we care about moments? Here's what I care about. Here's what I care about. Number one, when Japanese Americans who were born here, had businesses here, had homes and children and families, when World War II happened, they took those Japanese Americans and they put them in the tournament games. When the war was over, they gave them their property back and they repaired them. They gave them money. The Native Americans who were slaughtered and everything else are still getting reparations. Some of those reparations are for treaties that were supposed to be allocated to black people. All right? So when you look at what happened here, black people were not bought to America. They were bought to the new world and we built America.  You know what I'm saying? Like if you do prison reform, yes, it affects me if I get arrested, but I'm not a criminal. And I didn't go to a case against you. What's the point? Barack Obama said we need, but Barack Obama said he didn't agree with it at all. Yeah, I know. Barack Obama said we should do it. That's why I said we should do it. My point is I would rather a candidate say we're actually going to cut the check. Yeah, line him up, oh my God. Wait, wait, let me finish. And not give me the whole, you know, Dog and Pony show with Tina Hessey-Coates and Danny Glover.  Oh, no, I need to go to the beef with the reparations. I like what he said, but I didn't hear anything that moved me because all they were doing on that thing was, look at what it actually said. If we want to talk about words, it says to study whether or not there should be a committee form to deal with the task of reparations. Do I think black people should get reparations? Of course, with ODEP, my point is out of two hours of substantive conversation from 10 different candidates. The only thing that matters to the black culture is reparations. That's no plan, no nothing, just yes. Let's start everybody. Name me one thing clear and specific that Kamala Harris is going to do for black people. Kamala Harris says she wants to give, what, put it, $75 billion for black entrepreneurship and home ownership and HBCUs. Okay. First of all, I feel like I'll read it to you verbatim. I don't want to do it. Because I'm with the temple, so an HBCU thing ain't going to help me unless you're going to take care of my Howard daughter.  I know because I see them moving out of my kids dorm. Yeah, I mean, so we got to talk actual substance. Here's the thing, Bill Clinton ran on free healthcare. He ran on Medicaid. He ran on a whole lot of promises and stuff too. I'm not buying that. She has a $60 billion plan and she wants to invest it into black business owners. That's not reparations. That's not reparations. That is, that is an influx of cash. That is not reparations. Because Native Americans specifically... You have to remember one plan to see how for black people are guaranteed. That's vague, though. What is reparations? How's that vague? Reparations to me is cash, just like it was for the Native Americans.  Native Americans didn't get cash. They still get a check. Yes, they do. Native Americans still get a check. They get land. They get land. They get land. And they get checks. And they get tax. And they get tax. They get a thing. They get checks. They get taxation based on their lands. They do not get checks for being Native American. They get checks for being part of the casino. They get a percentage based on that casino. I just want my 48 dollars. I'm not, I'm not listening. Yes. I listen. I'm not going to know what to do with a mule. Just what I'm finding. The mule wasn't necessary. You're not going to know what to do with a mule.  What y'all going to do with a mule? I want to make buck mule. That's to do with Mexico-Mirado today. That's upgraded. But the thing is... Thank you. Thank you, class. All of us have been saying it. But the mule was not a part of the real deal. That became something we added on later that's part of it, like, for reading. 48, I just want my 40 acres. Just let me get started then. That's what Lil Nas's song was about the whole time. That's not what that song's about. All I'm simply saying is it was a two-hour debate. The mule's in the bag. And that one soundbite. I don't even think y'all watched it a bit. I watched four of that. I watched it a bit. I watched the whole thing. And so that was the one take. No, we were, you started all the time on Marion Williamson. I'm here for it. She was the most searched person on Google. Who do you think was searching her? Everybody black. Black people!  Because we can't get a link service. I'm not even going to the corner. Bro, Hilary Fink came on your show and said I had horse tops in my bag and you let her ride on it. You didn't ask her to open her bag? No, what I said to her was, No. Am I lying? Am I lying? Yes, you are lying. Run the tape. You are lying. Somebody run the tape. What I said to her was, this is one of those times where they're gonna say you're pandering the black people. Yeah, but did you ask her to open her bag? Because she could have proved it right there. What? When I'm specifically saying to you, this is one of those times they're gonna work it. And then she said, is it working? And that's an honest answer. Bro, that's not tangible. But it's just like when her husband was like, what's the next step? So I said, what would me say to open the bags? Let me see the hot sauce. When I interview her, I'll give you a second. No, I want to know what you think me saying in her bag, there's hot sauce in there. What would that have done? If I was like, let me show me the hot sauce.   You don't believe her? No, I didn't believe her at all.  So what happens is the question is, hold on, hold on, hold on. Everybody's like, well, you believe a politician? So the question was this. And me saying to her, no, mama, me saying to a former first lady, I'm defending you. This is one of those times they're gonna say you're pandering two black people. Right, because. People always say about her. Let's say you said, let's see the hot sauce in your bag, right? If she does have hot sauce in the bag. Yeah, we might be talking about it. If she doesn't, she goes, I thought you meant what is something I carry with me like when I'm going out to eat because they might not have it. Yes. She didn't even have a bag. Boom. She came with a bag. She can show us what's on that bag. She had a bag. So she don't have the bag, but the question is a hypothetical. What is something that you have that in your bag that people wouldn't know that you have by asking, by saying what he says, you call out what you're thinking.  It's Frank's, we're black. Frank's, we're hot food. We're black. He's supposed to be up on this, so. I'm slipping, sir. I just started doing hot food. Oh, okay, cool. All I'm simply saying is, the only thing black people should care about in this election is reparation. Period. Because everything else has been given. No way. Everything else has been given. We've already had the dog in front of the show on everything else. Everything else. Look, Bill Clinton in 1992 was talking about universal health care. Did it happen? Listen, y'all love Bernie? I don't love Bernie. Bernie said that reparation was divisive while he voted for reparation for Jewish people.  It's the most important issue to me. No, I'm not only voting for reparation. I'm not that immature. Why? Because what else is somebody going to do? Because we built this country and everybody else is on our shoulders.  Everybody can do what they want. Let me tell you something. Everybody talks about tangibles. I want to ask y'all something. When did Bernie vote for... Y'all think reparations is ever going to get through to a Republican Senate? Do you think that bill is going to ever get passed? It's a great chance it's not, right? But the point is... It's not. Let's focus on what the only thing that should matter to us. When did Bernie vote for reparations for Jews? He didn't vote for it. He said that they should receive it. Take money from another country, sure. Why wouldn't you vote for that? But if you're saying that reparations for Black people... Wait, wait, wait, here's my point. If you're saying that reparations are divisive for Black people, why aren't they divisive for Jewish people? It's divisive because the country in and of itself is going to pay for it. When you're saying... The country became a superpower off of my blood. The country became a superpower off of my blood. The country should pay for it. What all I'm simply saying is why is that the soundbite of a two-hour thing? Did America become a superpower off of your blood? Meaning off of the blood of people who vote this country. My ancestors. A lot of people vote this country. Bro, not like Black people. Were Asians involved in it? Of course they were involved in it. Do they get counted in it? No, they don't get counted on Black reparations. Oh man, do white people get counted in that at all? Like the white people who fought for the independence of the country? Do they get counted in that? No, because they got an army pension. We can try that again in the first person. They didn't get an army pension. You really don't know what you'll be talking about. Yes, they did. On top of that, the very first... They got one month pay afterwards. One month pay? How much pay did we get? How much pay did we get? Who died first in the Revolutionary War? Governor Morris, who died first in the Revolutionary War? Who died first in the Revolutionary War? Not to mention when it comes to white people, when it comes to white people, Christmas addicts, not Atticus. Atticus is a character for Spartacus, but that's okay. Anyway, last time I checked, Black people are the only people in the history of this country that have fought in every war for America. Because white people... If you interviewed Mary Ann Williamson, and she said that, right?  The Civil War. You remember the Confederates? No, I'm saying there are white people who are living in that war, descended from the Confederacy, who fought against the Union, which is these United States. Black people have consistently fought for America. We are the only people who can say that. Point blank period. What about the North? What about the North? What about the Union fighters in the North? I'm not talking about the Union fighters in the North. Are they not from America?  What exactly are we debating right now? What country are they half a million in? What are we debating right now? What is the debate right now? Do you know how America works? I do know how America was formed. Do you know how America was formed? Us. What about what is the debate right now, though? The debate is what I'm saying is black people are old reparations because we are consistently American. What I'm saying is here was... I'm not denying reparations. I'm just denying your knowledge of American history. Oh, I know my American history. I know that the Confederates were white. Were they not? Were the Confederates white? Yes or no?  Okay, then.  As a whole. As a whole. As a whole. What was that Abraham Lincoln guy, Puerto Rican? Abraham Lincoln did not want to go down as the president. That is kind of debatable.  It was not about slavery. The Civil War was not about slavery. No, it was about states rights. But again, I don't... It was about the money. But again, I'm not mad at that. Like, I don't think... Y'all ain't asking the one fundamental question. Both of y'all, you said she brings up hot sauce and you ask what's in her bag. Ask Maryam Wimms and how she's gonna get the reparations. Now we... Can I ask them? I want the plan. Can I ask them? And you know what she said? What? I don't know where ever we get money from. Can I ask a question? When Notre Dame burned down, why is it that America defined billions for Notre Dame real quick? For everybody. We didn't bring in a plan. So, here's the thing. When I was a young kid... Nobody has a plan for reparations. You know who has a plan? Not none of the candidates. Tone talks. Guys, guys, guys, guys. You need to bring Tony here. Or Dr. Cloddy Anderson. And get them to... Listen, listen, listen. The reps is important. When I was a kid, there was this... There's this... A buddy told me that if we met the boat every time it came in, there was like this little ferry.  All we had to do was meet it, right? And I wanted that $80 a week. So, I never asked them where that money came from. I never asked them how we were gonna get paid. I never asked them if we were ever gonna get paid. I just knew I was getting $80 a week at the end of the summer. And the end of the summer came and I was like, bro, when are we getting $80 a week? And he was like, oh, I guess they're not paying us. And I think that that's what's happening now is we're so intoxicated with the idea of receiving this money, we're not asking how it's actually gonna get that... I asked Mary Ann Wimson how she does not have a house. She's just like, where will we get money from any other time? The fact that she has a lot of money that while Notre Dame was still burning out, how did America find money to pay for Notre Dame? That's not $500 trillion. $500 billion, she said $200 to $500 billion. No, she said trillion. We need to give her the plan. She said trillion. We need to give her the plan. It's our fault for not having the plan. All I'm saying is... We have the plan, it's been written down. All you gotta do is pick a paranormal. So next time you get her in here, you hand her the plan. This is the plan to make sure we get this money. What's the plan? Well, Taz, what's the plan? Plan is very simple. First of all, you allocate land. You give us... What land? Where? That's not money though. You want area 51? I'm not, I'm not.  No, I don't want... I'll take area 51. I'm just trying to be pragmatic. Area 51, y'all got it? Something that's like, tell me what land? You want the area 51? That's what black people did? We put the area 51 in? You figure out where I land on? You figured out how to work?  Thank you!  I wasn't here then. Not you. But here's the thing. All white people, let me make this clear. All white people are not racist, but every white person in America benefits from racism. I don't think... That's the fact. That's what we started off with. But it is what we're talking about. Me and racism have a whole different relationship. Hold on, hold on. We're gonna get there in a second. I just want to get...  So here's the thing. Right now we have a situation, we're all very passionate about this. I think everybody in this room wants the best for black Americans. I think that's safe. How we get and if reparations are the best possible thing. And I think there's a great argument for reparations outside of slavery, because if you want to make the argument that slavery has happened across every country in the world, you'll be 100% right. You got Jim Crow segregation? Wait for it, wait for it, wait for it. So outside of that, red line. Red line, yeah. Jim Crow segregation, right? Absolutely, sure, sure. The restriction of economic empowerment to black people specifically in America, to me is a way better argument for reparations than even slavery because every country throughout history has had slavery. It is all of that though. Mary and Williamson bring all of it. No, no, I'm not denying that. So when people have asked me, because initially my reaction to reparations was, nah, that's preposterous. How do you have to do it? And then I looked into it and I was like, no, there is a great argument for it because of the specific and targeted restriction of economic development of a specific community in America, right? There you go. 100%. So how we go about that is different. You say it's very simple. I don't think it's that simple, but I'm curious to learn from you how we go so test. You tell us how we do it. Where does that money come from and how do we make it happen? Where did the money come from to fight the wars? Where did the money come from to... Wars making money. Bro, exactly. But guess what? We're always talking about stimulation. Lincoln printed up the money. Lincoln printed up the money. Hell, the Secret Service was created because there was too many counterfeiters happening out here, not to protect the president. That came after Lincoln was assassinated. So when you look at the entirety of what's happened with black people, it still starts from slavery and then everything happened. There were no police until it started to get to a point where there were a whole lot of flea black people running around here. And then all of a sudden, hey, we got to control this. And so the slave cash has started to become police and things of that nature started to happen. You see how you're not answering the question. I am answering your question. You're avoiding the question. How do you split the money up? Like, who gets the money? Are you a direct descendant of slaves? You can easily prove that. What about caribbons that were born here? The caribbons have a whole different argument because it depends on what island it is. That means Marcus Garvey wouldn't have got reparations. Yeah, no. Not at all. That's crazy. Everybody in here. That means Malcolm every one of them got reparations. Everybody in here. That's why Kamala doesn't want reparations. Of course Kamala doesn't want reparations. She does want reparations. She definitely shouldn't get no reparations. I want to talk about it. She should not get reparations. Nobody can get reparations. She actually says she's for some form of reparations. Some form, just like Zuckerberg said, there'll be some form of Facebook that's for it. Here's the thing, that's a more logical answer. A more logical answer is some form of reparations. You niggas ain't getting $500 trillion. You're never going to convince America to give out $500 trillion. I'm not saying that. All I want is my 40 acres. All I want, I want more than just a land. You might not be in America though. I'll take it wherever you got it. Wherever you got it. I can sell some place else. Give me 140 acres in Belize.     I bet you everybody going to want to be up there in five years. Everybody going to want to be up there. How difficult it is for us to even say where the money's coming from. The money is coming from the government.  Not $500 trillion.  Let me get you. When Abraham Lincoln, right, this is why Abraham Lincoln is my favorite president and the best president of all time. He's the guy. He's the guy. Listen, I'm going to tell you why Abraham Lincoln is my guy. He is, right? One, when the country tried to split, he fought them and made them stay down. That's my kind of guy. Two, right? He freed the slaves. True, it wasn't because he necessarily cared about black people, none of that. But I'm going to cripple your economy. So I'm going to free these people.  And if you cross over here, you free. I'm going to do whatever it takes to cripple your side in the war. He was against slavery before he was president. Right? That's my kind of guy, right? Yeah. It's not, again, if I would have slaves back then, if you could have slaves, I would have some. I mean, I wouldn't have to hang nobody because I'm big enough to fight people. Classes. It's the truth. I'm saying it was a thing. Yeah, we lying ourselves when we talk about that too, though. You did. In Africa, you did. I wouldn't want to slay. You all have slaves in Africa. No, no, no. You can't compare that, bro. Not Western Africa. Yes, you can. Not Western Africa. 100% you think you need slaves in Africa? I don't know. No, no, no, no. Northern Africans have slaves, not Western Africans. I do think about that, though. Like, if I could have slaves, I'd have slaves. Western Africans absolutely had slaves because that's where the Europeans got the slaves one for America. The Post is different. The Triangle Trainslave, the Post was owned by those countries. 100% they do warring tribes. They definitely had slaves there. Warring tribes would kidnap the tribe that lost, and then they would sell them. No, they won slaves. Like, 50% of all slaves came through Gatchendorf and Charlton South Carolina directly from what happened. No, no, again, they're prisoners of war. They weren't slaves. They weren't. Yes, they were. Absolutely. The prisoners of war. Manson Housa had slaves. They were no whores. I think they just gave up the niggas that was whack. No, the niggas that they beat up on. So that's what we should do. You said we all defended them. We all just sent them whack-ass niggas. I don't really feel that way. And I think that the ones of us that have that blood and that's the one that they ain't come back for. So now they're crazy. I think the ones of us that call us a cocktail is the ones that have that blood in us. Yeah, they was like, we let the niggas go. But we the kings. They weren't slaves, though, so.   Sell them to the Europeans.  Then we go take America home. They wasn't slaves. So they weren't slaves there, right? Yes, they were. You're wrong. They were prisoners of war. No, but they were also slaves. That's an easy. Every society throughout history has had slaves. But we did. Except Western Africa. They're the one that don't. Everybody else did it except Western Africa. But listen. American slavery was different, though, because it was violent. I wish you had a show. It was show. I wish you on that. I wish you on that. That's not compared to the Commodore 64 to America. Yeah, it was different. But moving on. Thirdly, why Abraham Lincoln is my favorite president. It's not completely different. There were different aspects to it. And we can get into the exact specific different aspects. Let's get this off. Say what? There was no whips in Africa. Hey, branches. Listen. No. A switch. That's the switch, bro. We don't think they had the switch. Thirdly, and what brings us to the point of this conversation, what I like to buy Abraham Lincoln. When the Federal Reserve didn't want to fund the war, or wanted this ridiculous interest rate to fund the war, right? They wanted money for the war to fight the South. They wouldn't loan on the money without these crazy extensions on the Federal Reserve being able to print money, thousands of things, blah, blah, blah. He printed the greenbacks and then made the actual money valuable by saying you could pay your taxes with it. That's how he paid and fought for the war. So just like you printed up all those hundreds of millions of dollars to fight that war, you could run that change. You do know Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves, but then he also gave the slave masters reparations, right? Yeah, because he took their property. It makes sense to me. Jesus Christ. So therefore, he kept. That's how you keep the white people on top, always. Period.  No, dude, because they was a property. You get a slave masters reparations, but not the slave. He paid for you. It makes sense to me. Not after they freed them? No, I bought you, right? For let's say I bought you for $1,000. I bought you because this is what was going on. When you came over here, this is what it took him to. They got to make the argument. Let me make it again. Understand the context of this.  I hate that. I even have to preface this. You better not say slaves must die. No, no. Not at all.  Sure. So that would be the same, a similar thing. In other words, hey, we don't want you to have guns anymore, but we understand you purchased a gun. You spent your hard earned money. So we will buy these guns back from you. Just to get them off the streets. Just to get them off the streets. Because we understand it's better for society than if there aren't any more guns in this situation. It wasn't. I mean, I get what you're saying, but it wasn't a buyback, though. Oh, it's definitely a buyback. It was. I mean, I can see what you're saying. It can technically kind of be a buyback. Thank you, buddy.  So once again, America systemically did something to black people to put them in a bad position. So they need to do something systemically to get us out the same way they systemically did stuff with old slave masters to keep them afloat. I agree. That's why we're back to the point of reparations of these four acres. But when you talk about tangibles. 40 acres is tangible. Yes, $500 trillion. We're at across 13 million people. How do they get the $500 trillion in the first place, though? And by the way, how much is that per family? And is it each individual? Is it families? Like we got to think about this. The same way they thought about how to make slave work, figure out how to make this paperwork. Right. So we admit that we don't know how to do it. But how do they do it for these Japanese Americans that they're putting in terms of? I wouldn't know how to enslave people neither. Can we admit we are? I wouldn't know how to enslave people neither. Have you ever had something work for you? I don't know how to enslave people. Everybody who works for me gets paid very well, so I can't relate.  So here's the answer. That's why $15 an hour in minimum wage doesn't work. All I want is my reparations. I feel that's fair at 40 acres. The best thing about the reparations. I don't even want interest on it. The best thing about the reparations. No, I want 40 acres. I want that money. And I don't ever want to have to pay taxes again. Period. The best thing about the topic being introduced in this year's. Do natives pay taxes? This year's election. Yeah, they do. If they live in taxes. If they live in regular society. What if they did that? What if they said, you know what, black people don't got to pay taxes for the next 250 years? Cool. I still want my check. Because you know what? Martin Luther King had a dream. And he said, when we come to DC, I'm coming to get my check. I want my check. Period. I feel like we've earned it. Because everything, everything, the foundation is. When did Martin Luther King say I'm coming to get my check? Listen, you want to put up $10,000? Wait, wait, stop. You want to put up $10,000 right now that he said it? Promissory note or check? No, actual check. That's good. He said, we're coming to get our check. Not that I had. We just was talking about the fake Martin Luther King. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't cosign. Do you want to put up $10,000 that he said it? No, no, he doesn't. Wait for it. In the I Have a Dream speech. You said. Not in the I Have a Dream speech. Oh, no, no, no. No. Because you said he said I have a dream. I said, no, not that I have a dream speech. He said, we're coming to get our check. I know our speech. No, I know you know that speech because it's the only one you know. Well, yeah. Pretty good for what? No, that's typical for a white guy. Because once y'all killed Martin. What's y'all killed Martin? Y'all made him into a martyr and y'all took out all the benefits. The last thing he said was, we're coming to get our check. That is a direct quote. That's why he got knocked off. It was in the I Have a Dream stage. It was not in the I Have a Dream stage. He was actually organizing a march called the Poor People's Movement. The Poor People's Movement. And the Poor People's Movement was a march for everybody. It wasn't just for black people. Oh, so it wasn't just for black people? It was for black people. It was for poor people period. So people in this country that was poor and it was all going to march on Washington. So all the poor people get a check. But he did believe in reparations too. And he also went as far as to talk about how white people who were getting education to learn how to farm land, equipment to farm that land, subsidies to farm that land. But they promised that. Hold on, wait, wait, wait. This is what he was saying that white people were currently getting at the time that he was alive. No, I know. I remember that speech.  How do you tell a boolist man to pick himself up by his bootstraps? Exactly. Love that. Love that. It's more than I Have a Dream. So if Martin Luther King, if we agree that Martin Luther King was about people and making sure that people had justice, and this man said that he wanted reparations for black people, ladies and gentlemen, good night, run me my check. Because that's what Martin said. Again, again, again. Let's go back. Nobody's, everybody here, we've all said that we all agree. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody says we all agree. Black people should get some type of reparation. You know, we all agree. We all agree that tomorrow we want it to be sunny and 80 degrees.  The same way you figure out slavery. My biggest problem with all of this, though, is that... The same way you figure out slavery, handle your business. Get the smartest motherfuckers in the room, figure out how you run that check and run it. My biggest problem is this. We love soundbites. Yeah. Mary Ann Williamson gave us one soundbite, and everybody's running with it out of a two-hour debate.  So all you have is little glimpses of hope. What she said about Flint was colder than that to me. Flint is a Michigan problem. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Jesus Christ. So this is a Michigan problem. Anyway, the threat to justice everywhere. But it's a Michigan problem to handle.  That's about the... I mean, not Denmark, BC. Denmark, South Carolina. That's about to happen there. Like, that can happen to so many different... That's South Carolina's business to handle. But that can happen to so many different inner cities throughout America. There's places in America that needs to handle their business. Jesus Christ. I understand what he's saying. That's the whole point of the United States of America. It is the state.  That could happen to any state in America at any given time. That's why they have to handle... And at a certain point in time, a state has to have a responsibility to handle their problems because when you have a problem, if you just get bailed out by the federal government, it's the same... It fucks up everybody else. But that should be the federal government's job. But wait, it's the same reason why we said...    If I'm getting fucked, you get fucked.  That, I think, is more or less what... I'm in a 100% agreement with that. What we're saying. I think we all agree, every one of us agrees... But doesn't that help...  But in fact, catching up there, stuffing their pockets and getting everybody into that mess, cripple the economy in the first place. Why shouldn't these people be drawn out in front in public and whip in irons and chains and be arrested? They did not deserve to get bailed out. That's not cool. The car companies...  They did those predatory loans for those homeowners that got these ridiculous... I'm gonna say why I don't agree with that. The reason I don't agree with that is because there's a guy working at one of those factories who's feeding his family and has been feeding his family for years. It's been a generational job. His dad worked there. His granddad worked there.  You gotta worry about those people. No, no, I'm with you as well. I want you on that. How long we've been talking about this? We still have no way of paying it. And we keep talking as if we're gonna find a way to pay it. How did you figure out slavery? How did slavery is the easiest thing to figure out in the world? Hey, you owe me something. You don't have any money. Why don't you work for me for free? That is the initial... That's not how slavery started. That is how slavery started. No, not in this country. You think slavery started in this country? No, I'm telling you how slavery started in this country. I'm talking about biblical slavery. No, I'm talking about slavery started in this country. Moses? We can rubberace him from Pharaoh now?  They was the worst slave owners in the history of the Bible. Ever.  They don't know how to treat their property. I understand. I understand. What I'm trying to say, I thought you were talking about how did slavery get figured out initially? I'm saying just like you figured out slavery in America. It's like America figured out something. Figure out how to run the chick. You could figure it all out. You figured it out before. The four of us could figure out how to enslave somebody. That's not the most difficult thing to do. That's hard. No, it's not. Glad that you kidnapped somebody before. We can't even... Never. Never. Now, when they were kidnapped... Do you ever go, can you get me a glass of water? Dog, I wouldn't know how to kidnap somebody. Like, do you feed them? That's because math incarceration is enslavement. So it's not the hardest thing in the world.  To run a successful prison is hard. It's hard. Yes. Clink, close it. Stay there. See, that's not that easy. That's why slavery was so messed up because you had to have mental. Like in Africa, right, slavery didn't have to be so bad because you had the biggest guys to keep slaves in check. You come to America, it's a little dude five foot seven trying to scream at somebody six foot four.  You got to do a thousand things to keep that person... You got to make them feel like... You got to make them feel like they're less human.  Wait, we're forgetting one other thing too.  They don't know the territory here. They don't know the language. I'm not going to blame America for that. Why not? Because they didn't. They didn't have the biggest slave trade companies. That would be a lie. But if I take somebody and put them in foreign territory... But you can't say... Even if I say I'm going to fight, I'm going to fight. Yeah, but we can't generally say white... You know what I'm saying? We can't generally say white people, right? Because you talk about Dutch, you talk about French, you talk about all kind of other people. So I'm focused on American white folks. I mean, American white... Not even Irish people. English people, American English people.  They still benefit from white... I'm not saying they don't benefit from white. They became something better to help than us. But they were not special. And to this day, they're not special in this system. They just better than us. Everybody said white women is better than us. White women ain't got no action in this country. But that's a whole nothing. Shit in me. Zero action.   You're talking blasphemy. You're talking blasphemy. I don't know. It was out of your mind. It was out of your mind. Yo, we're all important to you. You're out of your mind. Let me tell you something. It is a white lady. A celebrity with no experience with a fucked-up tan and a fucked-up toupee became the president before a white lady. Who are you talking about? Wait, what? Do you think Donald Trump is a woman? No. He became the president before that white lady. I'm going to tell you why Taz and Glasses fit into the podcast. Oh, I missed that. I missed that. I'm going to tell you why they fit with the British. Like Trump has no experience.  You don't understand. Listen, if you could pick a celebrity with no experience, with a fucked-up toupee and a fucked-up tan over a white lady with experience whose husband was just a panda. No, we got to stop saying that, bro. I'm going to tell you why we got to stop saying that. I'm going to tell you, the four million votes ain't enough. Hillary had more of a popular vote and it was Russian interference.  Donald Trump is an illegitimate president.  Donald Trump is an illegitimate president.    Listen, Black Wall Street got burned down because of a white woman.  It's not about a white woman. You got to burn that pan. You got to burn that pan right now.  Listen, and you're going to jail. And you know what? It's not about her. They don't really care about protecting them people. They don't give two fucks.   Trump tells you he has no respect for these hoes. I mean, Trump don't got no respect for nobody. Neither do none of the rest of them. But none of them got respect for these hoes.   And the only reason they won't do that is because they want to show you Dataman. They just want to show you like, oh, I got them in check. Let me go get them in check. Really, they don't give two fucks. No. I'm telling you, Hillary Clinton couldn't be Donald Trump. We just don't want to come behind that.  That's also a white woman. Tell me.   That's like throwing a hot dog down the hallway. It's like giving well attention. Why? Why? Why you got to disrespect me like that? You got to think. You just said it. You got to think, right? You got to think, right? I'm playing the guy.   Yeah. Like that they get a section aide or, what is it called? Poor? No, no, it's not poor. It's more towards the neck. Because they have another thing. Welfare? No. What's the class of people? Poor and disenfranchised? No. White trash. People that's not white men. White trash. Oh, minorities. Minorities. White women are part of minorities. All minorities don't get section eight. Again, I'm saying why they started the programs more or less. For minorities. Right? For, they started from, white women are part of it. That's why I'm not with, that's what I'm telling you right now.  I will say this, I agree with glasses on this point.  We do not.  I do agree with you on this point.  Listen.    What are these girls doing, sewing? They better do something. What would they do literally? Listen, you gotta look and ship the context of time. And you gotta talk to Middle Eastern countries.  That's why everybody needs to be concerned, and that's why I keep telling you that the federal Republicans, as we know it, it's the fastest regime.  This is your new narrative, you run a friend. You goddamn right. You know what I'm trying to tell you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. They loved it. Bro, that is fine. Bro, that's fine. Listen, this is what's going to happen because we're in political times. I get it.   Hell no. I'm registered as a Democrat, but I'm not either.  Period. That motherfucker got a monopoly. Is he going to do something to us?   So I'm just trying to make sure something happens to us one time. Listen, you can make an argument that Trump has done more for black people. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Central Park 5. Give me his daughter. You can make an argument, right? But that's not the point. With the prison reform, he's actively trying to reform. He's doing that for a white woman. He's doing the more progressive president when it comes to prison reform. He is. He's a celebrity president. And black people benefit from that. I don't think he even races. That's the point about racism. This is why I was trying to fully pay attention. All I know is if Trump wins in 2020 and then six, seven years from now, you can't tell America apart from Hungary, or Poland, or Russia. It's not going to happen. It's not going to happen. I love how the rich do it with 15 jobs. If he wins again in 2020, you're not going to be able to tell the difference between America, Russia, Hungary, or Poland. It will affect me. Media. The masses don't like media. I want to, what were you saying? I said, if he wins in 2020, you're not going to be able to tell the difference between Russia, America, or Hungary, or Poland, or any other country. Because they're what? Because they're what? Meaning like what? Like the way the country is run? Yeah, because of the government. It's the fastest government. A fascist government. Yeah. And what is fascism? It's one party. Dictatorship. It's a dictatorship. That's what it is. And if you look at him now, he controls the DOJ. Right. He controls the Supreme Court. Right.  If you look at this, the Rock didn't do this. This guy has a monopoly on everything. So much so. Oh, he could have got it. Senate intel says, Russians interfere with the election.  Everybody knows Russians interfere with the election. Yep. Let's pass the election security bill. It's kind of like, nope. Right. That's what he's supposed to do. Moscow Mitch. I mean, listen, whatever you got to do to stay in power. He's elected, right? From 20 to 24. Bruh. He's not going to win. I'm going to be an optimist and say I hope he doesn't. No, I'm saying if he wins, because I think he's going to win. I think he's going to win by a landslide. One at a time. One at a time. Go on. I think he's going to win by a landslide. He's going to win. He's going to win because of the conversation we've had today, right? We know what we want. We don't know how to get it and nobody knows how to get it, but we're so driven by hope. We'll just go to whoever gives us hope. So this Mary Ann Louise or whatever her name is and hope, and then we go, we love her. And then next week, Andrew Yang is going to come on. He's going to go, I'm going to give you guys $1,000. And nobody's paying attention to the facts.   You understand that? You should only look about what's going on for you. Do you understand that fascist regimes act like they are for the people? They really act like they're for the people. But all they're really about is the elite. Of course.  At all.  All right.  I want that show canceled. Well, he did. Didn't he get that girl out of here?  No, not Michelle. Who? The other Michelle. Kathy Griffin. Oh, yeah. In her defense. Every human being does that. She deserved it. But every human being does that. If you have enough power and somebody go like, that's not power. That's the point. That's the point. That's the whole point.  Remember we had this conversation about forgiveness? True forgiveness comes from when you can actually do something to somebody. But you can actually do something to somebody and you can crush them, but you forgive them because you are the person with the actual power. Charlotte, just out of curiosity, let's say, let's assume that Trump is a fascist leader and he has a monopoly on power. What has he been able, what of his agenda has he been able to push through effectively? Because he's so ubiquitous with power that he can do whatever he wants. Has he been able to, I don't know, stop Muslims from coming here? Yeah. No. They still come. She called. He tried, but they couldn't do it. By the way, that right there is fascist. Ignoring the law and using your own executive order. No one's denying whether he wants that. I would actually agree with you. I think Trump wants to run America like he runs one of his businesses. Sure. And business is fascist, right? It's just like I run it. I don't think that that's a bad point. What I would say is that America has an infrastructure and systems created to eliminate the ability of somebody's, to limit the ability of power to do even if they want it.   Like no, he's not showing up. That's my kind of guy.  There's no law and order. There's no checks and balances. I was really feeling wrong with that. No, but there are checks and balances, right? He ain't following them.  Like even with the wall, right? He's like, we're going to do the wall. It's like still no. He hasn't replaced that fence with that wall still. Right? It's like now it's a fence. Now it's. Four years. Give him a minute, bro. Yo, but think about how long. Give him a minute. Think about how long though, right? Give him a minute. Think about how long though. So it's like half the American system. He'll have time because he's going to be in forever. All right. Because when he wins next year and he gets a couple more Supreme Court justices on that motherfucking team. Let's say he does win. And he does some constitutional matters. He says, you know what? I like it here. By the way, he's already told you that. But check it.  But check it. The justices. The justices can't amend, right? So all justices can do is decide if a bill is or is in constitutional. So those bills have to pass through the house, which is not his. It is. The Senate is his, but the house is not. The Senate is his. Who else? Supreme Court. But it doesn't matter. In order to get to the Supreme Court, you have to get to the House. And then what happens is this, if the Senate is okay with the bill, it could then go to the House and they can veto it. So what if he wins the House in 2020? What if he wins the reelection and then wins the House in 2020? What often happens is... And then you have the Senate. Who knows? They don't know. What often happens is like a sitting party, right? What you'll have is if the President is in power, you see what happened in the midterms, where there's usually a flip in the opposite. There's a flip in either the House or the Senate and that's what balances the power out. I got a different card now. Got that cheat code, baby. Which is? Moscow, Russia. I got that cheat code. Right, right. Now, I'm just saying. But that's another thing, right? There's another thing going on, right? If it is totally possible for Russia to influence an election, much like we influence every election in the world, right? I'm glad you said that. And actually that's the best thing that should happen because when you're not influencing elections via social media, you're doing it through physical force. But going from, did they influence the election and did they do it in cahoots with Trump that's a different step that hasn't improved it. I don't think Trump is the passive beneficiary of Russian interference. I think Trump is the actual plan. I don't understand. I think that Russia is the ICBM. That's fair. And I think, I know, I think Russia is the ICBM and Trump is the warhead. And look, that might be the case.  No, no, no. 100%. Let me plant this in the White House. 100%. I'm just saying that right now they don't have any proof that could say that it's jumping from we wanted this guy in to he's working for us. There's just no proof. That's true. There's no connective tissue. Not saying that it's necessarily wrong or right. I'm just saying that connective tissue isn't there. So why would they block the election security bill knowing that there's all this Russian interference? If you're so American and patriotic, why would you block it? Because you feel like you're the only one that's American and patriotic. No, no, no, no, no. For this bill, right? Which makes complete sense, right? You're like looking at, you're like, well, why wouldn't, why wouldn't we have a bill that's put out there that just protects from this type of influence? Simple. It seems like the most interesting thing that happens is, and I'm not saying it's right at all, but when any bill comes in, there's partisan nonsense that's stuffed in a big hole. This one was bipartisan. This one was totally bipartisan. You would think. No, it wasn't. And he shot it down. He shot it down twice. Right, right, right. It was totally bipartisan. He didn't like it. They did another one. He shot another one down. And it's giving no reasoning. And look, it's super suspicious. It does. But we know the reason, Schultz. Which is? Which is? What's the reason? They benefit from Russian interference. They got to be When I just put something else on the table when it comes to this Russia thing, though, like Trump was always talking about doing deals and this, that, and the third. And you know what I mean?  So it just makes sense that he's trying to get a foothold in Russia in another place else. Maybe. You know what I mean? And then he's probably getting it for what, pennies on a dollar versus what he would pay here.  When you look at it in this whole totality, you like, wait a minute. I just don't understand. What bothers me is there's no sense of urgency from nobody. Like nobody sitting around like, y'all ain't tripping on what's going on? Because what's going to happen? What do you mean? What's, what's, when it's all said and done. I don't feel like it's ever been a true democracy for black people. I think it's going to happen. So far, so far. I'm talking about so far. But now, you're talking about why people ain't tripping. Yes, but there's some of them are though. Of course they are. They're like, oh, the national, because this ain't what the Republican Party is about.  The national intelligence who just got forced to step down. Let's be clear. He got forced. He didn't just step down. He got forced to step down because he specifically said, Russia's interfering with our elections and they're doing it right now. Can't do that on Trump's watch. Can't go against me, buddy.  Oh my God, glasses. No, no. So I would do the same thing. No, you wouldn't.  Real quick. Just out of curiosity. I don't know what's best for y'all anyway. Didn't I just say, I haven't signed my deal yet?  You should not make, most of y'all should not make decisions for yourself. Y'all can not make a quality decision for yourself to say. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I think that I completely agree with you in that way and I think that's why there's certain people that are putting positions of power so that, you know, they can leave. I think that's why God doesn't let them make decisions for people who can't make them for themselves. Right. So then it's at the mercy of whoever makes the decision. Honestly, no issue. Just don't abuse your power, G. All I'm saying is Hitler started off as an elected official. Here we go with this Hitler. That's all I'm telling you.  No, we also got to stop calling everybody a Nazi, man. It's getting really. That's just corny, too. I'm going to. By the way, I'm glad you said that. Things start somewhere. Yeah, so what? They start somewhere.  Watch out for babies. All I'm saying is America is the most arrogant country in the world. And we think that we cannot fall. America thinks that it's going to be hunky-dory forever. Right. We think that we can't fall. We think that the things that we see in other places can never happen here. Yes, they can. I love saying a lot of steps happen in between, right? And I think we're in the beginning of that process. No, we're not because our economy's booming. This is the thing.  The economy is booming.  You have nothing to worry about.   Oh, the bottom's going to fall out. I always know that. It says it's a matter of time. And this has nothing to do with Trump. No.  It says it's a matter of time.  What happens if the bottom doesn't fall out? It's a statistical mathematical impossibility. It's inevitable. Like if you drink that water, you're going to take a piss. It's going to happen. Might not happen right away, but it's going to happen. It's going to happen while Trump is in office. Probably. He's not going anywhere. He'll do everything. Because the Democrats are leading each other up. Y'all wait till Donald Trump win again in 2020. Goddamn it. I never thought he wasn't. I thought he wasn't. Y'all are going to see something. So we can sit here and complain about it as long as we want. Why don't we figure out what we would do? Let's say you want Trump out of office. What do you do to get him to lose this next election? I'm going to say the question I've been asking every single presidential candidate. I'm going to ask Angela Rye this morning on the radio. Everybody is talking about voting in 2020.  That's why this Russia forget whether or not he's in cahoots with Russia. We don't even got to go there. Just the fact that Russia interfered and other countries can possibly interfere. How can we ensure that American people have a fair election in 2020? I'll tell you, I can't stop a ballot from being processed. That's what the election security bill cut that. There are no paper ballots. That's the point. It's all digital. Digital makes it even worse. Exactly. That's the point, Andrew. It's all digital.  Now here's the thing. I agree with you a hundred percent and that is a huge concern. But paper ballots have also been problematic. How did Russia actually happen? In Florida, what did they do? Another illegitimate we're not going to sit here and act like they didn't announce Al Gore is the next president. Literally announced it. A hundred percent. He was like, no, no, no, no, wait a minute. No, run that back. Run that back. And all them bushes got to work real quick. Somebody told me, come on, his brother was like, come on. There's been other residents that have been illegitimate that worked out, right? I think some made people even made the argument about Lincoln where they kind of doctored some votes. Kennedy in Chicago, I think they had some, the mafia had some trucks knock out the things going with the paper ballots. Do you think Kennedy worked out? Yeah, I mean, Kennedy was like, Well, he got blasted. He got, because he kind of killed that whole federal reserve thing. I think he got blasted, too. But see, that's the kind of president you really need to have a chance as a renegade. The one thing that I do like about Trump is he is a renegade. Now, I don't know how it's going to work out if it's going to work out against us or for us. Most likely it's not going to be for us, but I'm interested to see. He's a renegade for the rich. This is the same kind of I do not believe he's a renegade for rich. This is Kanye saying, I don't think Donald Trump is a renegade for the rich. I don't think the rich like Donald Trump. I don't know. I don't know. If Russia can do it. You think China is not going to try to do it? What's that? Interfere with our elections in a real way. They should. But that's my point. Interfere, how are they going to like, digitally manipulating votes? No, they won't digitally manipulate votes. What they'll do is they'll do targeted advertising.