So could you please take your full name Michael John Humphress and your age please 72 and where were you born? Richmond Surrey England and As a child, what did your parents do? My father was a Royal Air Force regular Trained initially as a wireless technician Got his pilot's wings and was a fighter pilot beginning of Second World War he He was shot down over France in May 1940 badly injured Got back to England spent many months in hospital whilst they rebuilt his leg That's where he met my mother who was a registered nurse and I guess the rest is history, but he had finished up the war. He never flew again. He finished up the war as a station war officer in the Shetland Islands Was invalidated out in 1946 and And joins the civil service worked his way up through the ranks in the the board of trade and Retired as a senior executive officer in 1976 My mother after I was born she quit nursing and she just became a stay-at-home housewife Which I think was fairly standard at that time very most did Did you have a lot of siblings a brother and a sister? Yeah, and what were your interests and things to do for fun? As a child. Oh as a child. I suppose we were living in Southwest London up until the age of 11 and For fun we used to play on the bombed out building sites war games bicycle riding kicking a ball around playing soccer When I went to Teen Asia course it was grammar school and then it was Lots of homework and army cadets. So how about it in school? Were there any subjects where you excelled at or where you had a particular interest? Well School history I went to junior primary or primary junior school in in Southwest London near Wimbledon Took my 11 plus exam and Passed that at the same time my parents moved out to Surrey. So I ended up going to Serbenton County Grammar School. I took Seven subjects a general certificate of educational ornery level Basically math physics chemistry. I took Latin and French English and then went into the sixth form. I took math physics and chemistry for three years got my advanced levels and Won a place at the Royal School of Mines to study metallurgy and Also won an industrial scholarship with Richard Thomas Baldwin's Which was a five-year sandwich course a year in industry first Three years at the University take an honest degree and then another year to sort of wrap up Co-op degree is now it would be considered a bit of a co-op But the natural fact we we actually had the three solid years at university And it was just the the one year ahead of time Which was very good actually because we we worked our way all the way through an integrated steel plant System so we went to university that much older So were your plans ever to go into mining or you kind of just fell into it I I fell into metallurgy purely and simply because RTB were offering these scholarships in chemistry metallurgy Mechanical or electrical engineering and metallurgy sounded a bit more exotic than being a chemist And I talked to a neighbor who happened to be a practicing metallurgist and and that's that's how I ended up being Going into metallurgy chemistry was always my favorite subject, but What were what was the Experience you you got a working during that degree During that degree Well, the first year as I say was to go through an integrated steel plant You start at the where the coke came co-covens steel plant the blast furnaces steel plant Etc. Then you went through all the hot rolling and cold rolling Tin plate galve line and so on and over a year you worked your way through all these various departments and You worked on projects So it was a fairly good grounding in the steel industry and then three years at University the first summer vacation worked at the companies research laboratories second year Hiked off to Sweden for work there for three months in a steel plant And then course graduated the end of third year and went back to the company and I started as a development officer in the R&D group in Landward Newport in 1966 67 So Now we're in Canada. When did you actually move to Canada? I came over in 1968 Not that long after no the British steel industry was going to be renationalized by the then Labor government and The R&D group that I was working with was going to be amalgamated with another one from another steel company So that would have meant moving further west into Wales So I decided that I'd take a look and see where I could go Canada was an obvious choice I'd shared an apartment with two mechanical engineering students at Imperial who'd been hired directly by Ontario hydro in 1966 on graduation so I had contacts here and Also when I looked around the world the United States Australia New Zealand South Africa, they all had drawbacks of one Four more another not least of course the Vietnam War if you were going to go to the United States so I Opted for Canada and it's Been a very good a very good choice. Yeah, how did you find Canada? What was your first impression of? Canada my first as a whole. Oh My first impression was arriving in Toronto Airport being picked up in a 1968 Dodge Charger and whistling down the 401 I My first major impression of Canada I Stayed with friends in in Toronto until I got the job here in in Sudbury with with Inco and I Put in 30 years retired in 1998 and what were the big differences professionally between England and Canada? I Don't think there were a great deal of number of differences I think engineers here and get far more respect than they do in England It's more of a sort of continental flavor, you know, if you're an engineer in Germany, for example, they redress you as engineer but here I found Everybody was much more laid back than they were in in Britain Everybody's on the first name basis And the only other major change I saw was that working in a steel plant in Britain or any heavy industry in Britain There were cafeterias on site where you can get a subsidized meal No such thing at Inco You had to go out for lunch or you bought in a sandwich or whatever they had lunch rums, but that was it But working work wise Fairly similar very similar I had a very steep learning curve for the first few months changing from steel industry to to nickel industry, but and it was all new So it was it was exciting. It was exhilarating So could you go a bit through your your career? I didn't go just kind of briefly and then maybe we'll stop long way. Okay Joined in Co in September 68 Went to the smelter supposedly for three weeks and three years later. I got out of there I I Was taken on as a graduate engineer made it to project leader in a few weeks and I ended up as the section leader and nine months later and From there I did a small stent in the paramedological laboratory and then I moved over to in 1971 to the nickel refinery which was in its final stages of Building and construction I Was the if you like the process engineer for the converter plant there Spent until 1976 there then I'm Transferred to the mineral dressing test center completely different Area Away from pyro metallurgy and into the the mineral dressing side of the business Few years there back to the lab as the section leader in charge of the pyro metallurgy laboratory then I went to Mac processing And then they amalgamated Mac processing in the smelter. So I came full circle in about 1982 Got involved with the environmental control group within smelter tech services Then moved into the the technical side of the the business of pyro metallurgy metallurgy side of it and ended up as the superintendent of tech services and Spent three years as the superintendent and of the smelter complex research group and then Are retired in 1998 The real question. Did you Officially retire or was there some consulting or other? I I left on pretty good terms and So I got the odd call to could I come in and take a look at this or take a look at that Some years it was one or two weeks other years. It was months and then in 19 No in 2008 I was asked by Hatch Associates here in Sudbury if I would get involved in Looking at flow sheets for the next stage of the sulfur dioxide abatement project for what is now valet and I spent five months six months with them putting together various scenarios and training one of their very smart young engineers and They picked up everything I knew in six months took me three years to get there But yes, it was that and that was that was very interesting, but I haven't done anything since 2008 Okay, what would have been your? Favorite part of your career is there a specific job or Specialization I would say that the There were two things to two two periods that I that I really enjoyed one was starting up the the converter plant in the Nick refinery and the other was starting up the bulk furnaces and and so on in the the new bulk smelter that was started up in 1993-94 and I mean that's still basically an ongoing project Could you talk a bit about the the beginnings of the coppercliff Nick refinery? Well, I went over there in 1971 as I say at that time the plant was still under construction There were no offices, so we we had cubicles in the warehouse Reviewed the various engineering drawings and all that kind of stuff and then We started to hire the staff They got the control room operators in and they got the foreman in and so on and we actually started the plant up with staff And it wasn't until we'd sort of ironed out some of the bugs I don't know how many bugs there were in the high pressure carbonyl plant, but there's certainly a few major problems starting up in the in the converter plant Which we sold very quickly we had to And then we bought in the unit guys and trained them and so on let's take over The problems we had for example the the feed for that plant the converter plant produced a crude nickel that was then granulated and shipped over to the carbonyl plant for refining they extracted the the nickel and some of the iron as a carbonyls and then from that they by destroying the carbonyl by heating it they would create pure pellets or powders and so on so The first thing was that the the the feed for the top blown rotary converters were supposed to be briquetted and It didn't work It was a blend of metallics from the mach processing plant a Resin tube from Thompson Manitoba and also a sulfur cake from Thompson and the metallics and the sulfur were supposed to react together and Form very hard briquettes. Well when the test work was done people had blended these things together Put it in 45 gallon of drums and shipped it down to Comrax grieves for testing and they produced perfect pellets perfect briquettes No problem at all When you got the raw material directly from the mach processing plant with about 4% moisture in it We found we needed about seven passes through the Briquette impress before you driven off the moisture and you and you generate enough heat for the reaction to take place So we scrapped it. We we went with Concentrate feed into the TV RC's which in turn of course led to more dust carryover hood creations and build up in the flu system So that was the first thing that we had to play with and then the first few heats The the TV RC's produced a 45 ton melt at about 1640 degrees Celsius. It's pretty hot That's why you needed a roti furnace and The the material was you charged it you melted in with an oxynatr gas flame Then you blew some of the sulfur out to bring the copper to sulfur ratio down to about three and a half to one And then you had to back reduce with coke to remove nickel oxide and dissolved oxygen in the melt That melt was then poured into a Refractory line ladle and taken up and put into an induction furnace Unfortunately, we didn't back reduce the first few melts very well and we ended up with a couple hundred tons of nickel oxide scrapped the induction furnace and Very quickly we had to put in sliding gate bowels on the bottom of the refractory line ladles And we put a tilting tundish in and we granulated from those Again, it was a very quick decision to do that Granulation You pouring hot metal sixteen hundred odd degrees into a water stream probably about half a ton a minute of metal Maybe I think make so very serves me correctly about three thousand gallons a minute of water and The material that would then be granulated fine shot go into a dewatering bin and These were quite efficient, but the water carried just a very small Amount of solids over with it and after we've been operating for a few months somebody took a look at the cooling tower Which was wooden? We were in dire danger of Collapsing the structure because we made it that much heavier. Yes. I mean the nickel the nickel settled out in the cooling tower so Again a very quick decision we built or we purchased a lamella thickener clarifier Because it had a small footprint on the ground so we could fit it in reasonably well and Again as I say a very quick decision to do that and this was the first application of this technology at inco so I was quite pleased with that The other thing was that the gas is coming out of the TBRC's cost they have to go they have to go through an evaporative cooling tower and then before they went through a hot gas preset and the the evaporation chambers had a series of sprays in the roof and These were activated by the discharge temperature from the from the tower Supposed to be a dry-bottom operation But the sprays were a they were too coarse and B There were about 18 of them and they were worked in increments of about three gallons a minute That result was we had a wet-bottom operation and we had this highly acidic slurry Which we then had to redirect to a small thickener Throwing sodium hydroxide balls and every now and again we dumped the whole lot out on the floor To recycle the material through the TBRC so not a very pleasant operation as you can imagine so I contacted a Company called sonic development. They came in and we did some test work using sonic nozzles and basically these are fairly sophisticated nozzles which nozzles which Shattered the water into a much finer spray and the whole thing was modulated You had water and the high-pressure air which was modulated to to create this and we went to a dry-bottom operation So very pleased with that. So, you know starting up the first few years a lot of a lot of Problems, but we solved them quickly and successfully a lot of things to adjust on the go. Absolutely. Yeah, no choice You had mentioned a few times the Bateman program But you would I think you had worked or can I at least talk about Incas and Bateman program to reduce sulfur dioxide emissions. Yes Ah Inco when I came here in 1968 Inco was putting out between 45 hundred and sixty two hundred metric tons a day of sulfur dioxide And just before we go further could you explain a bit what are the effects of sulfur dioxide? Well, in layman's terms. Well, first of all, it's not very pleasant. It's an acidic gas. You can't breathe it, okay? and the other thing is if you if you have a Plume with high levels of SO2 in it and it contacts the ground it burns the vegetation And it also of course creates acid rain in the atmosphere and we ended up during the mold We only regained years of having an acid rain agreement with the United States to cut back the emissions because Eventually, of course the acid rain eats away buildings so That was the that was the basis of it now in nineteen seventy one I guess seventy seventy one we've built the twelve hundred and fifty foot stack and that Resulted in us being able to discharge the gas much higher because the old stacks This is three hundred and eighty meters the old stacks were about a hundred and fifty meters So we had the single largest point source of Sulfur dioxide and the North American continent obviously contributing Significantly to the acid rain problem By discharging higher we managed to clean up the the the ground level concentrations around Sudbury So that you didn't have to I I mean I actually on occasion. I had to wear a gas mask even in my office Try answering the telephone With a gas mask not very pleasant So that was that was the start now With the stack that was one thing but also they then started to to remove Pyrotype, which is an iron sulfide from the from the concentrate in the milling process and by 73 to 78 we were down to from about to fifty four hundred shall we say down to three thousand tons a day of SO2 And that continued then down to about 1900 tons a day by about 1984 and during that time the mills had done their part of the job by by Removing the pyrotype At the same time a lot of research and development work was done that our research facilities in Toronto poor coal and research stations Thompson and copper cliff smelters to come up with a a new smelting operation that Would allow us to fix More of the sulfur dioxide either as acid or as liquid SO2 and eventually the decision was made to go with a bulk Concentrate smelter, so we built a couple of flash furnaces. We put in a big acid plant We completely changed the the copper smelter in in in in copper cliff putting in a new a new processes which use top blowing and bottom stirring and so on so a lot of innovation went into it and I forget what the cost was but it was it was probably close to a billion dollars or so in the in though in that time To do that and we got the first furnace started up on nickel concentrate in 1993 and we went over to bulk in 1994 as Result of that we bought down the SO2 emissions to somewhere in the 700 to 750 ton a day range Which was compared to initially initially let's say an average of about 5400 Okay, so a significant reduction In 2006 few years after I retired they they started to fix the FBR gases in map processing and That bought the discharge down by about another 180 tons a day now the final piece of the puzzle is to fix the converter gases and Once that's done, we should they should be down I say we they should be down somewhere less than 40 tons a day of of sulphur dye upside emission to the atmosphere so if you know Significant improvement. Yeah, okay, and it's had an amazing effect. Of course in the Sudbury region I mean the when we built the the the new smelter if you like was was retrofitted into the existing one Whilst we were still operating the old system. There was no there was no cutback in operation a lot of admiration for the engineers who who managed to sort of fit it all together and do that But work room environment Significant improvement in the work room environment a lot better lighting a lot cleaner a lot less gas a lot less dust and the external environment Well the company also not only worked with Government and and the universities and so on they did all this to to Put vegetation back on a lot of very barren rock and They also Grew pine seedlings underground in Crate and mine and to they would spend a year sort of like hydroponics and And then they bring the the plants up to the surface to to to acclimatize for a year and then they plant them out I forget how many millions of trees now, but I think it's somewhere in the six seven eight million trees have been planted around the Sudbury region since the 70s and So a real re-greening. Yeah, no kidding and now it's It's I think it's rated one of the most beautiful cities in Canada something like that Well, I'll put it this way. We we have several hundred lakes around the area And with the trees and so on. I mean it's it's it's not a bad place to to live I mean when I first came here, I always refer to it as a one-horse-hick mining town. It's very much a Very nice Town now, it's it's it's got everything you need here. Yeah, it used to back in the day didn't it the NASA came here to Yes, they train the astronauts simulate Mars, right? Well the moon or the moon sorry. Yeah. Yeah moon. That's what I mean. Yeah Well, the Sudbury Basin was created we believe by meteorite impact and so there are things called shatter cones and They they came up here to Be trained if you like on what the geology of the moon was going to look like I'm not a geologist, but that's basically I think why they came here, okay It didn't have to do with a lot of them the barren or dead land. Well, I was created by the emissions The countryside was pretty barren around the the smelter And so on and that's where they that's where they went just around the back of the smelter and the acid rain or the Sulfur dioxide and so on over the over across time Coupled with the fact that when they first started smelting in the Sudbury region they cut down trees They cut the trees down put a layer of logs put a layer of ore layer of logs and so on and they had the then they'd set fire to it Okay, I had to drive off the sulfur dioxide or the sulfur as sulfur dioxide, so of course this had a Very negative impact here. Yeah look like a volcano and Very barren I Would say now probably in a few years They'll probably have to strip some of the vegetation off the rock just to show what the old rock look like I Mean, it's it's you know, they've done a very good job Yeah Do you more of a social question here, but do you believe there's a disconnect between This industry and the general public in Canada? Well the public probably had a Very poor opinion of heavy industry Funerally simply because of the the the pollution I mean my wife is a local girl and and she she would say you know You used to go downtown Sudbury to go shopping and they you know You see the the air turning blue as the gas came through. Well, that doesn't doesn't really Sit well with the general public I Think you know the resource industries by and large Have a very cleaned up their act part of it from pressure obviously from government, but I Mean, you know in in 2014 I think the numbers were that the resource industries were accounted for 20% of GDP employed 1.8 million people and I don't think it really helped when our prime minister turned around and said it wasn't the resources beneath our feet But the resource when there's between our ears that was going to be important in the future I think that was a smart Alec remark But if he'd said both together then that would have been a smart thing to say You know Politicians are always full of we need World-class Canadian industries. We need Research and development dollars spent to create new processes new Materials new products We need to add value to the products we sell Well, I work for a company like that for 30 years They were Leaders in not just developing but also adopting or adapting technology In minerals re in minerals exploration mining you're going to be talking to Greg Vaden later today Greg was very involved in the developing of remote mining techniques So you you know the prime minister could sit in his office in a chair and he could control a drill or a scoop tram underground to create mine The company over the years Leader in in the development in the use of tonnage oxygen for smelting with the Inco flash furnace top-blowing bottom-stirred vessels fluid bed roasting And so on so a lot of these things and then of course pressure carbon elation for refining and the production of pure pellets and pure powders and and some of these specialist powders I mean, you know that they come out of our premium and what's happened to that company What's happened to all that R&D effort? It's no longer Canadian it remains to be seen whether valet Taking over Enco was a good move or not for Sudbury for the province for Canada The jury's still out Okay What what is your opinion on on that phenomenon because it is I guess a phenomenon a lot of Canadian companies in this industry specifically who are disappearing or Are still there but under non-canadian means Well, I I don't want to sound like a socialist but If you have Foreign government owned or controlled or financed companies coming in With deep pockets and taking over Canadian industries I don't think unless there's reciprocity can we go back in there and take over them the answer is no So until there's reciprocity, I don't think they should be encouraged nor allowed to to take over The How many Canadian oil companies have taken over a Chinese oil company? I'm not aware of any and yet now we have a government that's saying well Maybe we need to sit down and and have a free trade packed with the Chinese Be very careful. That's all I'm gonna say be very very careful because you can end up gutting all the head office jobs all the infrastructure of these industries and The profits go overseas next question is a Mouthful and a near full and that's a question in your opinion So in your opinion, are there any events? people inventions Contributions disasters anything whatsoever. I think we just answered that one. Yeah, is that because I was gonna say yeah Yeah, that must be discussed when when talking about the natural resources in Canada and and I was gonna say The quite the topic we just talked about the disappearance of a lot of Canadian companies is actually a recurring Subject in this in this question. Well, I think again going back to what I said just now if you were taken over by another large mining company that For example If we've been taken over by Rio Tinto or somebody like that Well, you know, there's an opportunity for reciprocity there But when you're taken over by a government owned or financed company You're you're you know, you're really giving away the baby with the bathwater so I Feel quite strongly about that and it was a quite a traumatic event. I think for the sub-region and Again, you know, the politicians make an awful lot of noise about some of this stuff But when push came to shove when inco tried to merge with Falcon bridge No help at all Okay We had a one year strike Here in Sudbury and our local MPP you he wouldn't he didn't make any sound at all I knew he had a conflict of interest, but he could have declared his conflict of interest When you have a foreign company that won't even negotiate For the best part of 12 months There's something wrong with our systems that Cannot bring the two sides to a table And I made the point to several politicians that Every mining company and smelting company you have to have operating licenses to do these things Maybe the the pressure point with these foreign companies is to turn around and say listen We will remove your operating license or we'll suspend it for a period of time and tell you sit down and talk Anyway, that's as far as I'm prepared to go with that Okay We'll we'll We'll change the subject a bit Question regarding women the presence or absence of women has that changed? Well, what has it been like significantly? in 68 there might have been One or two secretaries female secretaries out in the plants But for the most part the female Population such as it was would be an analyst in the lab and secretarial staff in the in the in the general office In the 70s in the nickel refinery, I know we started to hire one or two female for the unit not just Technicians or our engineers And that's progressed Over the years and by the time I retired I mean the last few years we were hiring or we were taking on an engineering training program for young engineers and I used to hire probably as many women as I as I hired women engineers as I would hire men So I would say by the by the late 1990s a lot of women not only in the unit But women had moved up into section leader and superintendents positions not just in just in process take but also in in operations so complete complete change now as It is 50 50 equality. I don't think so but The efforts were made and and certainly at INCO just because you were You know if you were an engineer and you had a certain You know position it didn't matter whether it was male or female. You got paid that rate for the job kind of deal So now whether there's a glass ceiling in there somewhere. I don't know I Think they might have a bit more problem perhaps with valet and the Brazilian Style of management Again, I can't I can't comment. I can't I can't guess I mean I In the early days when more women you start integrating more women Where any of them met with any animosity or or was it a fairly good? I didn't I didn't I didn't see any any real animosity Now if you there if there were certain what should I say Prohibitions perhaps of having women work underground in the mining sector But I've never worked in the mines. So I'm not sure but I I know but It was considered a bad luck to employ women underground There are women working underground now and I don't think we've had any disasters so No, it's right. Just talked about that in my last interview this morning. Yeah about It was with Gord Slade. Yeah for Falcon Bridge and how he was one of the first to to bring at least women because Back in his day women only work there But they weren't allowed to ever even go down to visit or take a look So he was one of the first to invite the ladies to go down and then the families and yeah like that on weekends So take that stigma away when the Queen first came here, you know, I mean that was that was That was almost a revolution to put her into a boiler suit and let it go underground. Yeah, no kidding. Yeah Throw your career. Have you had a a or a few mentors? Is there someone that stands out in my career? No There are there are there are one or two people. I mean I let's be honest I I worked for a lot of very good men who Far more knowledgeable than I and I learned a lot from them But in terms of One mentor would have been a fellow who lived next door to me back home in England I wasn't doing very well at ordinary level physics He was a young guy next door. He was An engineer with decorator He had left school Been called up to his national service didn't know what the heck he was going to do So he trained as a radar technician found his his It's calling calling Went to university after he finished his national service and So anyway He sat down with me and over the course of three months He worked through the complete ordinary level physics syllabus and I passed the exam with flying colors So if you like he was probably a very good mentor, but the guy that probably had the most influence on my life was my father It's not that we always saw eye to eye far from it, but um A living with a regimental sergeant major is not easy So I was a very shy introvert fellow And when I hit 13 The commanding officer of the school cadet corps army cadet corps sent home a form Because it was voluntary then Prior to that it had been compulsory. He was now voluntary Had to have parental permission so they could get you into the army cadets if you wish to join Well, my father there was no discussion. My father volunteered me and uh It was a turning point because I was forced to become far more extrovert If you want to teach a squad of cadets Stand up in front of a group of people And so on You have to become more extrovert. I went on to become a senior school prefect I not only was a member of the school cadet corps I went on the adult staff and taught at an outside cadet corps as an adult sergeant when I was 18 and That scholarship that I got with Richard Thomas Baldwin's in large part Was due to the fact that Because of all the work I had done with cadets Plus obviously academic ability um When I was interviewed The interviewer was uh an ex-indian army colonel. So all that Cadet work stood me in very good stead paid off Um, I think they put out 16 scholarships that year Out of uh 5 000 plus applicants So You know, it was uh, it was uh, uh, a very good move and at university I went through the officer's training corps. I was commissioned into the territorial army as a second lieutenant in 1966 and uh, so on so it It was something which allowed me to or forced me to become more extrovert And to develop whatever leadership potential I may or may not have had so You know, I seem to find that just about any organization I I I join whether it be you know, sort of Kiwanis club or the opera guild I always seem to end up, you know as the president and uh So Yes, it was it was a it was a turning point in my life and uh For that I thank him He knew more about me than I did. Yeah. All right. Well, I said parents are four sometimes Even if it's it doesn't seem uh fair or right When it happens, um, just two a few um closing questions One would be uh, what would be the proudest? What are you proudest of in your professional career? My professional career, I would say Uh, the contribution I made to the team that started up the nickel refinery converter plant and again The the effort that we put in to get the bulk smelter up and running I would say those those are the two Things that really stand out than I'm proudest of And of course then the side effect Of all that has been The improvement in the in the environment around the subree area. Okay. So, uh, You know, you can see that when you drive around in the summertime Quite significant Which I'll have to do one day. Yes and the last question If you were to speak to someone much younger like a younger self or a student Or cadet What would be the most important life lesson or piece of advice you would give them? Oh Well regarding their their future Whether it be professional or I think there are just a few Rules one try and live by the golden rule Do unto others as you would have them do unto you You upset far fewer people that way Secondly Balance your career with your home And social responsibilities Your job's important because it puts food on the table and a roof over your head But and hopefully it will also lead to you know, self-fulfillment and so on The higher needs that that we have as human beings your home is important It's a refuge It's a place to go when you need support rest relaxation because not every day is a sunny day And As far as the social responsibilities can put something back into the community Join a service club teach our coach young people in A sport or cadets or the scouts or something along those lines Volunteer to raise money for a charity or whatever, but do something get it back because You're going to be retired probably these days. You're going to be retired for 20 or 30 years if you've Got some of these hobbies and interests and so on they carry over Um, and you you you find yourself Very busy Finally remember you're never indispensable So it's always a good idea to Try and bring your subordinates along let them reach their potential and if they wish to move Don't hold them back because once you're retired and they call you back.   No, just to say thank you very much for the opportunity to talk. Thanks for the time


That's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation. DONE NUMBER TWO OF SURVIVOR MAN!  I hope you loved Episode 1. It's always so exciting to work on a new project for you guys. And this one's been awesome so far. Now, as a quick recap, in Episode 1, I was able to play four games. I went three and one. However, in that last game, not only did I lose, but I had three turnovers. So at the start of Episode 2 of Survivorman, we are missing a left tackle, we are missing a center, we are missing a fullback. But the rest of my offense remains the same. I think the biggest issue is missing a left tackle.  Having all my wide receivers is amazing. Having my tight end is huge. And obviously, AJ Dillon, the quad father, is a huge necessity. If I lose the quad father, I literally can't run the ball anymore. But even if I had my whole offensive line, silver halfbacks are absolutely useless. So I'm really glad we still have halfback. If I were to lose a wide receiver, it wouldn't be the end of the world because I have three of them. However, since tight end is one position, if I were to lose tight end, I lose all three tight ends. So that would be a big bummer too. But for now, I'm happy with the offense. On defense, we got pretty lucky. The only defensive player we lost to our turnovers was one of my corners. Luckily, there's three. So I was able to put in Tyson Anderson, but I remain with PS2, who is incredible, and Charverius Ward. My defensive line is flawless. My linebackers are flawless and my safeties are flawless. Also wanna give a huge thank you to Raycon for sponsoring my videos for over three years now. Raycon's gotta be pretty amazing if we work together for three years. So let me clue you in. Raycon is premium audio at the perfect price point. So you can build great habits without breaking the bank.  And the best part is Raycon starts at half the price of other premium audio brands. 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In Madden Survivorman, if I turn over the ball on downs, I lose a player. However, if it's fourth and two and I were to elect to punt, that does not count as a turnover. Well now that's an extra big issue because if I'm electing to punt, but it's Trenton Gill, I can only punt like 30 yards. It's almost like there's no purpose in punting at all anymore. Unless it's a pooch punt, very specific scenario, I'm probably gonna have to go for it on most fourth downs. Regardless, we're still at 92 overall. I know we can win games. We are one win away from making the playoffs. So my goal here on episode two is to make the playoffs and win the wild card. Then hopefully I can save the NFC championship and the Super Bowl for the final episode, episode number three. Then again, if I lose the next two games, I'm gonna restart the season. So Madden Survivorman could technically be 10 episodes if I keep losing. I certainly don't plan on that. Additionally, since I've lost some players, I've actually freed up a little bit of AP on offense and defense. So on offense, I'm 11 of 12. There's kind of a really cheesy strategy you can use with AJ Dillon, the quad father. Now he has this free ability, freight train. It's two AP, it starts on. The only way to knock it out is to TFL. So someone's gonna have to tackle AJ Dillon for a loss in order for freight train to turn off unless you use the ability persistent.     I'm running persistent with freight train. That's 12 of 12 on offense. And on defense, I'm gonna use one AP to give Bojack tip drill. So now Bojack's got tip drill, mid zone KO and enforcer. I also have tip drill on Ted Hendricks. So we're ready to catch those. Overall though, we're ready for the first game of this episode. We've got a 91 overall offense and a 93 overall defense. We are one win away from the playoffs. Keep in mind for anyone who is confused about my record, I started this series with one win, expecting it to go a lot slower than this, but our first three games were all rage quits. Additionally, I lost last game, but Madden didn't count it for whatever reason. So I'm technically four and O, but I really should be four and one. I didn't get a loss, so I'm not gonna complain about it. Regardless, let's hop into this game. We cannot turn the ball over. We must get a win to advance to the playoffs. He's got Justin Jefferson Edelman and oh, that melt blunt may literally be the scariest card in the game right now. I got Mahomes, D-Hop and Cooper Cump, whoo! Best case scenario here. We get a win. We commit no turnovers and we move straight into the wild card. Who is that, King Henry? All right, he's got King Henry. We know he's scary. Now he's gonna pass now. There is no way he runs the ball again after that. Oh my God, he did.  Get him, get him! Fourth down! He's trying to spam King Henry at me. Fourth and one. Is this a run or right up the middle? I gotta be ready with Ray Lewis. Oh, it is. It is. It is stuffed! Oh! Oh! I'm honestly shocked he got it. I'm very happy with our defense. I think we played really well right there. I think we spooked him at the very least. I don't think he's gonna spam run plays as much. Ooh, he throws a nice ball. Mid zone KO from Bojack. Knocks that out. He looks like he's gonna make a mistake here. Let's go. Let's go in the backfield! Jump that snap beautifully. He's looking at a fourth and five. Ooh. What is he hitting me with? I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. Oh, Brunel. Oh, and he got lit by Hendricks and he hangs onto it. That is a big bummer right there. I felt like that could have been our stop. Two fourth downs, he converts. This guy's a savage. I think he's gonna run the football. No. Another pass. Wow, he baited me, dude. I gotta go guard Gronk on this route. He keeps hitting Gronk on this route. Oh, I'm there this time. Got him. Bottle, he's taking a shot! Don't do it! Let's go! Oh, I shouldn't take this out. Yes, I should. No, I shouldn't. Shit! Ow, I could have taken that out so much better. Let's go! He was so consistent, so smart, and I think he just got, because he was playing great until that shot right there. All right, gentlemen, let's go. On defense, he's got some monsters, though. J.J. Wat, the milkman, the gravedigger. A lot of studs, but we got studs, too. Second and 10. I might've literally just got TFL with Quadfather already.  What? I know my center's not very good, but what was that? Unlucky, it's third and 15. We gotta find a laser somewhere, man. Oh, beauty! Yes, go, Kittle! First! Oh, fourth and inches. Oh, boy. Is he in man? What is he in? Kittle. Yes, good throw! George Kittle! Two for two, 25 yards, we're moving. All right, de-hop highball. Beauty. Oh! Oh! All right, no turnovers. Let's run the football. Good blocking. Good! I'm still gonna run this stretch. Oh! Oh! Ooh! Third and one now. I think he has inside stuffs in there. He has one inside stuff. It's the grave digger. Let's see if Quadfather can get past him. Let's go! Let's go! Oh, that was ran to perfection. Seriously ran to perfection. Fake PAT rollout pass. I never get to do it. Oh, he doesn't see it. Go! What a ball!  That was a laser! F***! Does he really run this ball? I'm in trouble if he runs this ball. Doesn't. Hey! All right, we just pretty much put it away. Wait, wait, wait. I gotta snap this. No TFLs. No TFLs. Ooh, what a great run! I'm running this ball. I refuse to turn it over again. All right, we're going right side. Wow, that JJ wants a beast! He's just not fast enough. Quadfather takes it to third and one. Actually, no. I'm gonna go at the middle one more time. He doesn't guess. Ooh! That was bad running by me. It's fourth and one. Oh my God, this is actually a pooch-punt scenario. I'm doing it. I'm not risking turning this football over and not completing this yard. Since I'm punning the football, this does not count as a turnover. However, he could tie the ball game up. I don't think it's worth risking it. Yep, he knows it. That's why he's in five wide now. I gotta cover Gronk. Got Ray Lewis on Gronk here. I'm hovering the middle to hopefully get a little extra pressure. He's got Gronk over the middle, I'm down! Throw it my face! I'm legitimately offended that you would throw that football. This is a rare occurrence, but I might get a legitimate shutout. All right, Cooper Cup, easy throw, great coverage. First down. I'm just gonna go George Kittle underneath. Something really simple, de-hop underneath too. Let's play this ultra smart. De-hop, de-hop, de-hop, de-hop. Great catch, oh! Wait a minute. Oh Matt, you're so... I'm not a fraud. I am a fraud. I'm not a fraud. Fourth and eight. I gotta lock in, I gotta lock in. No focus kicker. Beautiful! 11 to zero, that should be all she wrote. Zero turnover game and a W. A potential shutout, gentlemen. Doesn't get much better. Ooh! I'm so close to that. Go Hendricks, Hendricks, Hendricks! Who got it? PS2 got that? Let's go. Ooh, sticky. Shit. I'm gonna go coach adjustments, ball carrier conservative. Gonna play this ultra smart. It has virtually been all quad father today, but there's no reason for me to go to the air. I go to the air and I make a mistake. I will regret it. Literally for the rest of this series. Oh, what a run. No, that's smart football. Why? Why even take it? Let this clock go. He's gonna concede the loss. No timeouts called. GG's to my opponent, but most importantly, I respect a man who will play the game out. So rarely do I get to see the highlights and the stats at the end of the game. So it's gonna be exciting to actually look at this one. Is that a score, Agami? Has that ever been a real score in the NFL? 11 to zero? Let's take a look at the player stats here. We rarely get to do this. Patrick Mahomes on the wizards. Goes six for seven, 85. No touchdowns. 16 for 72, four and a half yards per carry. Could have been higher if I had taken some of those for touchdowns. He did get the touchdown. No fumbles and seven. D-Hop, three for 47. Thank you for being there. George Kittle, two for 25. Everything is going perfectly according to the scriptwriters. I'm gonna be honest. I have no idea what Madden is trying to say my record is here. So prior to this game, I was four and O. Then I won the fifth game. Now it says I'm six and O. I don't know if that's because it's saying I get a buy, but I'm hoping it's not. It says wins to the Super Bowl one with a check mark.  I'm gonna treat this next game since it does say survive the playoffs as my wild card playoff game. I have nothing to overview or change right now. Since my team played amazing and we committed no turnovers, I can just hop right into this next game. He's got defensive player of the year, Nick Bosa, Gilly Lock, and we're gonna see King Henry one more time, Mahomes, D-Hop and Cup. This is a must win game no matter what, regardless of the series. If I lose this game, I can't make it to the playoffs. So we need a win right here. But worry about everything else after that. He's got the, ooh. He's got King Henry, Justin Fields. That is so open on the left side. Good ball. Okay, yeah. We're already in for a better game than last game. I hope he runs play action again because I'm going for the QB. Ooh, that's bad, that's bad. Ooh, it's not bad. Let's go, Judon. Negative four yards for King Henry. All right, this is a pass. I'm guessing pass. If this isn't pass, I'm in so much trouble. Okay, we're good. No check downs. Ooh, good bottle. Let's go. Third and 10.  We're not in the bedroom. But I want clamps on. Third and 10. Gronk across the middle. I see it. Oh no, yes. Mid zone KO. Bojack has come up clutch twice. I want to call a timeout, but no.  No, I missed. Oh, no, he might score now. Bye, have a great time. Oh, great tackle, Hendricks. Bro, I was right there. Okay, we got to run commit everybody. We know this is right up the middle. Yup, yup, yup, yup, yup, yup, yup. No, damn. First game of the playoffs, whatever. Honestly, it's a good sign. I always say that it's a good sign. Let's go quad father left side. I like this here. Ugh, Jesus, that Ed Reid was flying. Second and one, not a great start.  Just take the easy one. We'll pick up third and six. I'm going George Kittle on the corner route. I'm going quad father underneath. I'm blocking Gentry. Shading to the right side. Oh yeah, we got the roll. We got the roll, that's all. What, what? There was a double team. How did Warren Sapp just get me? Oh no. How did Warren Sapp just get to me? Dude, I didn't even see it. I literally didn't even see it. We gotta deliver a strike here, boys. Fourth and 14, this is man coverage. I'm looking for Cooper Cupp. Let's go, Coupe. Let's go, Coupe! Ugh!  I messed it up on the end. I could have had it right there. Dude, the pressure got in my face. I threw a bad ball.  First and goal, we're going with the stretch. How the hell? Oh, it's a silver left tackle. I just lost six yards on a run play. You kidding me? He's in the same defense. I think I can just hit Cooper Cupp. I'm going Mahomes!  I can't believe we just did that. So many opportunities to turn over the football. We don't turn over the football. Make it seven to seven with three minutes, 57 seconds. We do get the ball a half. If I'm him, I just go to the run. He's gonna go stretch right. Oh, Wham? Play action? Oh, now I'm worried. Oh, it is Wham. Get there, Bojack. Let's go. Good stuff. Three rushes, one yard, one touchdown. And we're technically bottling him again, but he did find the end zone already. What did he do on this last time? I can't remember. Oh, that's mine! I didn't think we were gonna get it. Wow, you really would throw over the middle like that right there. This Ray Lewis might literally be my favorite card of man 23. First in 10, I'm gonna try Quad Father again. He was so dominant last game on three rushes, negative eight yards. I think DeHop is wide open. If this is the same defense. Yeah, he is. High ball, high ball. What the? I still think DeHop's there though. Oh, he manned it up. Shit. Mahomes is still up. And then he goes down. It's fourth and 12. Is this man coverage? Is this zone? What am I looking at? I'm just going with DeHop with double me. Ah!   And I got no complaints about it. Oh, beauty, beauty, beauty, beauty. DeHop with an easy one. He's gonna take it all the way up to the 33. There's a minute 30 left in this game after I snap here.  This could be a very legitimate role play right here. Ooh, Quad Father! Let's go! Down to the 10. He's in positive territory. Finally on these runs. First and 10. He's gonna call timeouts here if he's smart. But we're gonna use all of this. Not quite all of it. We'll go at five seconds. Wow. I might as well be a blind man with how I've read those blocks. He's letting it go. He's not using his timeouts. He's gonna let this go all the way down to 25. For real? All right. George Kittle. Beautiful route. Ooh.  A field goal puts me up by three and then I get a ball I have. So I could always just do that and then reconsider everything here. Let's see if we got time. I'm going Quad. Quad Father? Get in there! Let's go! His user had to make a decision between Quad Father and Kittle. He chose Kittle. Seven to hopefully 14.  We started down 7-0. No adjustments on offense. No adjustments on defense. Team is playing so good. I ain't messing with anything. First and 10. I cannot find myself in another fourth and deep situation. I have to stop that. This is man. Oh no. It was a miracle that wasn't an interception. That could have been so much worse. Okay, so that was cover one. I think I could just burn this with a de-hop whip. Oh no, I can't. Oh, he's all over that. Oh, I'm bottled. Third and nine.   Gentry, get up, buddy. I don't know what to do. He's boxing me so hard. I'm going to punt this. It's not worth giving away a player going into the NFC championship and I trust my defense to win me this game. Let's see if we can actually punt this one out of bounds this time. I was unable to last time. Okay, it's probably not the best punt. That's a little shallow. I think losing punter was one of the biggest problems that we could have had. He runs for 10 yards with the king. I expect him to stick to the run. I'm going to go on Diablo for the run. Oh no, he just came to my side. Oh, there we go, Lewis. There we go. Second and eight. He threw an interception on this exact play last time. Ooh, I messed up this coverage. That should not be JPP. Oh, that's a wham. That's a wham. Oh my God, it's play action.  Great play by him. B. Oh, that's a run. Ooh, bottle. Let's go.  Second to 13. He's got to get in the end zone. This is a pass. It's got to be, right? What's he doing? What's he calling? Henry, do it. I know you want to. He wanted to so bad. The roll is the ball away. Absolutely bagged. Third and 13, I'm guessing pass. He's got work done and he's passing. There's no way he runs that ball of work done. We know what we got to do. We just got a clamp. You ain't running the ball of work done.   Let's go. Very well, could have been a fumble. Fourth and seven, he converted last time. No way. There is no way you want the score to be 10 to 14. Really? I guess I see the philosophy here because he stuffed me on defense last time. He thinks he'll probably do it again. He might do it again. But I don't know. To make it a four point game is weird to me. You get another field goal, you're still losing. Got to get in the end zone either way. This is shaping up to be an excellent playoff game. I might've just, oh my God. I had a lane on the left side too. Great return off to the 41. I can't believe I didn't house that.  He's nukes, right?  Boy ain't no way, boy. Giving Quadfather a whip, bro. I'm giving DHOP a slant. The comeback. Oh my God. I don't think I have ever thrown a comeback. Mike Williams just came up big. I'm running towards the Silvers, but I got to believe. He guessed pass. Great, great blocking. Second and two is massive. He guessed pass there. He's shading everything outside. I'm gonna run this. I'm going inside zone split. This should be there. Second and two. I met some resistance.  Can I get this? He looks like he's gonna stuff this. Nope. Call me the Philadelphia Eagles, baby. First and 10, I got to move the clock with that. I'm running this right side. I can't run that left side. First and 10. Oh no. That might have been the luckiest thing of today. How did that DB not make that tackle? He was staring me down. Whatever. Second and one. Clock is ticking. Attack in the middle. Or he guessed run. Three seconds on the clock. This is a huge conversion. DHOP. Easy.   Fourth and three, I'm going for it. I think it's still DB fire too. I think DHOP's wide open. He knew it. I can't get to it. Let's go. A first down puts me in an incredible position, but I got to get it first. Second and seven, this is DB fire too. Ooh, ooh. Good broken tackle, but not enough. Two minute warning here. It's third and seven. I think coach wants me to go yard for this.  I'm gonna motion quad father. I want to throw this ball to George Kittle. I'm hoping I can spook him to look at Cooper Cup. Kittle. Yep. God, dude, the decoy. The decoy. Second and goal, I'm gonna go to the edge here. Touchdown wins it, but I'm not going crazy for a touchdown here. Oh my God, I'm actually gonna get one. Maybe not. Oh, I'm bulkier conservative. I can't break tackles. Nice play by him. The game isn't very much not over. Quad father breaks one. Honestly, he burnt a lot of clock on that play. I'm very proud of him for that. He has no timeouts to ice me. I just got to hit this. Should be the easiest kick of my life, I'm hoping. Good, now you hold A, you can hold A. It'll take it down to three seconds. I think three seconds on that play clock. Boot it through. We got to hold for 16 seconds, zero timeouts. What does coach suggest?  I'm playing everybody deep and I'm blitzing.   Go get him. Nope. Honestly, you gotta let him catch that ball. Let him catch that ball and tackle him. But hey, it worked perfectly, the same thing. Go get the QB. Oh no. Oh yes! Oh yes! Chavarious Ward, that's all she wrote. Please don't quit, please don't quit. Let me kneel, let me kneel.  I want to see the stats. A win in the divisional zero turnovers once again. I punted twice. I literally punted twice. That was a defensive game, that was a great game. And take a look, the script writers are very happy. It says Playoffs Progress, one of two wins. And up here in the top left, it still says Playoffs. So all this means is my next game's the NFC Championship and my game after that is actually the Super Bowl. The most important game I would say is next though. I actually think the NFC Championship is more important than the Super Bowl because if I commit multiple turnovers in the NFC Championship, I could lose my quarterback for the Super Bowl. I could lose my halfback. I could lose so many of these players. So I'm so proud of us in these two games to commit no turnovers, but I still got to clutch up in the NFC Championship and of course I got to win the Super Bowl. Gentlemen, I love you. Thanks for watching as always. This is my episode two of Madden Survivorman. I can't wait to see you in episode three. Thanks for watching as always. I'll see you guys soon. Peace.


On Wednesday, March 13th, Pikeville Police Department hosted their first coffee with a cop event at Heavenly Donuts. Community partners and friends of our local officers came out to enjoy coffee, donuts and some relaxing downtime. Those in attendance were happy to spend their morning in a positive environment with plenty of coffee to go around. This is the department's first ever coffee with a cop. This is something that we've talked about for many years and you know knew it was a good idea but finally today it came to fruition and March 13th, 2024 is our first ever coffee with a cop. We had it here at Heavenly Donuts. They was nice enough to last to use their location and it went over real well. We've seen you know some familiar faces. Obviously some of our city officials showed up today to give us some support and then we had members of from UPIKE to show up and some other organizations that we work we all work with on a daily basis and then just some members of the community came in today just to just talk and have a cup of coffee and some even enjoy a donut before they left. Make your ride one of a kind and see the experts at J&M Custom Auto and off-road. It's your customization candy store. Visit jmcustomauto.com and select your making model. It's that easy. Window tanning, remote starts, leather interiors, sound systems, front and rear bumpers, spray and bed liners, bed covers, wheels and tires, lift kits, step rails, even underglow like kits and so much more. If you can dream it, we can do it at J&M Custom. March 13th also holds significant meaning for the department as it marks six years since the tragic loss of officer Scotty Hamilton. A prayer circle was held outside the establishment to remember him. When we was looking at dates we was talking about you know maybe having having this event in March and we just thought it was feeding that March 13th which is a real important date to us because that's the date that we lost Scotty Hamilton six years ago today. We lost Scotty so we all liked drinking coffee with Scotty and knew Scotty liked coffee and we try to come up with different ways that we can honor Scotty and we thought no better way than to to come up here and just fellowship and have some coffee and you know just remember him as well. It was nice. We had brought some bracelets that to honor Scotty to give out to the community but what we was pleasantly surprised by is a lot of them's already wearing bracelets that in memory of Scotty you know it's been six years and you know we felt the support a great deal then and we still feel that support now and Scotty wasn't just our loss he was the community's loss and he you know say it all the time but he'll he'll truly never be forgotten. Reporting for Mountain Top News I'm Nick Collum.


In this presentation we're going to take the information from our payroll register for the second month of the operations of payroll the month of September and record it into our journal entry into the general journal and the general ledger and the trial balance. Remember this is a process that many people, many accountants don't fully understand. So if you can really understand these payroll journal entries then you're understanding debits and credits really even if you're not processing payroll by the way you're still understanding debits and credits really well and you're getting a good concept of how to record and post journal entries that are probably some of the more complex journal entries that we will see. So to do that I'm going to do September, we're going to do September here. Now there's still a situation of us having to pull over the wrong information possibly making a mistake and pulling over the wrong information. So to make sure to pull over the right information we may want to make this green again and then freeze our pains so that we can see the header.


Good morning, good morning, good morning, it's time to rise and shine. Good morning, good morning, good morning, I hope you're feeling fine. Good morning, get up, get out of bed, it's time to wake up, you sleepyhead. Wake up, it's a brand new day, and we can't miss out on that day that you can't be at your best. And you gotta make sure you got the right back test. Swipe to sleep away, make sure you're awake, cuz we don't have time for fat break. Small gap down means it's time for- let's go. Good morning everyone, happy Wednesday. What is today? November 29th, all of us well. Can you believe it? The S&Ps are up again. S&P up 25, NASDAQ up 108, Russell up 16, strongest of the four. Dow up 115, gold slightly green, silver up almost 1%. Notes and bonds higher, tenure yield down 1%. Oil up 1%, natty gas up almost 1%, grains a little bit mixed, euro and the pound slightly red, and Bitcoin down a little bit. VIX, 12.61, down a little over half percent. So my order of business this morning is I'm gonna do a Wednesday AM iron condor. It took the idea from Tim Wise, it's a 70 minute version. I think he does his on Mondays and Wednesdays too but so I kind of recrafted mine into a 3-2 ratio and I do some other stuff on Mondays. So I'll be doing the Wednesday's 70 minute version. I shared the back test in the Zero Live Chat channel right under the zoom link, if you didn't see it. That'll be added to my December plan. And then got a 1-2 DTE. Looks like that'll close for over 10%. My 5-7, I'll be closing that. It's currently shown at about a 28% profit. So that thing really popped up overnight. I put discretionary RIC on my agenda because I may scope out a discretionary RIC today. Let's see, as far as Econ reports go, had preliminary GDP pre-market and we've got the beige book at 1pm central today. Tomorrow, OPEC meetings all day, core PCE price index and unemployment claims pre-market. So sometimes the beige book's a big deal, sometimes it's not. You know, the calendar labels it as low impact. But of course, if there's any kind of little surprise in the beige book, good move things. There's the opening bell. So it looks like the $4 strikes are going to be 85s, 65s, 20 wide. No difference between 8 and 20, huh? I thought I remembered playing with around with that stop. Let me check here. Yeah, there's a pretty decent, a little pretty decent, decent, pretty decent difference on mine. SPX still pushing up. Order should be coming in. There we go. Here it comes. It's like it's going for the 85. Oh, yeah. 85s, cancel and replace. 85, 70s, trying to get filled. There we go. Got filled at 2170 on the 8570s. So 15 wide. I'm in my AM ratio. SPX still pushing higher. All right. So I'm going to get out of my 12 DTE. That'll be a nice winner. Trying to get filled at 770 on my 12. Not filled yet. There we go. Filled at 770. Got my 5.7. It's currently up about 35%. I'm going to go ahead and close that one as well. Filled on my 5.7 at 12.15. All right. So just posted both of those in the calendar channel. Oh, I see what you're saying. No, yeah. Exit trades at 10.42. Yeah. So this will close out at 9.42 my time. All right. So closed out my calendars. Even with SPX pushing up, VIX hasn't really moved. Rick is trading at 9.80. So starting the day with a 17 point expected move. Opened it to call it 45.72. 89 to the upside. 55 to the downside. I saw 17 after the market opened. Right when the market opened. Either way, it's just kind of a general range. Yeah, VIX is kind of holding here. I'm going to jump in a discretionary, Rick, here. Filled at 9.40. All right. Filled at 9.45. So there's the Rick I just got in. All right. So that's all I had for this morning. If you open, I'll do a DKS here a little bit later. Yeah, you can copy that. You got to just put LMT on the end and it'll copy into TOS. Yeah, but you forgot the price. Keep everything the same. Just add that LMT at the end. And then what you'll do is you'll like that. And then what you'll do is you'll, it looks like you figured it out. But for anybody else, you just copy it.  Let's see who I got here hanging out with me this morning. Alan, Anil, Bandit, Ben Brown, Bleddy, Dale Hayes, Dana, Daniel, Dick K in the house, Diego, Don, EDH, Elliott, Eric, Eric Allison, Glenn, Hamza, JR, Jason, JB, Ken, Ken and Ken's iPad. Dual, Claz, Krish, Lesoza, Lauren, Mann, Mark, Mauro, Michael Todd, Mirage, Amono, 22, Pervez, Pete, Ron, Ryan, P, Trading Naked, Vegas, Michelle, White Tiger, Wolfgang, Yuzur, DA and Eddie. Welcome, welcome everyone. So we've got, so I just had a couple trades to put on the open. So we'll probably make this a fairly short live stream, but anybody new, feel free to jump in and ask any questions you have. I will be finalizing my December plan hopefully today and I'll get that posted in the trade plans channel. Opt for dollar, Black Friday is gone. Black Friday's over, Thanksgiving's over, Cyber Monday's over. I think you missed that deal. So a couple nice calendar profits this morning. That felt good. I've got a single calendar currently on in SPX. Currently up a little bit. Still need a down move for our time flies. Hey man, I don't check the Zoom chat. So all the posts and everything are in the zero live chat channel in Discord. Yeah, I'm going to close the VIX trade this week. I'm going to let it just continue to dwindle. Thought we might hold or bounce a little bit at 14. That didn't happen. So just giving a little chance to see if we get any kind of a pop at all this week. Hey, MBK, so zero DTE moves too fast. This isn't something where you can have somebody post a trade and then you can just copy it. Doesn't work that way. So we teach you how to trade. We've got the zero DTE course channel. So you can go through those courses, understand the strategies, build out a trade plan based on your account size, risk tolerance, all that good stuff just moves too fast. So we live stream both in the morning. Sometimes I live stream for zero DTE. Sometimes Chad live streams for our other day trading strategies. You can check the live stream channel for that schedule. But like above, I just I posted a reverse iron condor that I took this morning. Just on a discretionary basis. But the trades aren't posted. They just they move too fast. You can't there's no there's no copying the trades. That's not how this works. You've got to you've got to learn the strategy and understand how to execute the trade. Yeah, you can. I mean, if you want to hold the VIX trade, you certainly can Maro. I'm not I don't I'm not interested in taking the full full loss when I put it on. You know, we were seeing the market even when the market was moving higher. The VIX was kind of holding or actually starting to go up. So I thought it may have been trying to base a little bit at 14. And so that was kind of the design around that around the trade right in this area. Well, it kept going down. Right. It didn't it didn't hold like I was hoping. So I'm not going to let it just dwindle and take full loss on that trade.  You can certainly hold it if you want to. SPX still hovering around 45, 84 ish. We do have Jay Powell on Friday speaking in the morning and afternoon. So we'll see if he can say anything that gives us a little pop. We also have core PCE and an OPEC tomorrow and unemployment claims. Never know. S&P up 29. It has that up 150. I didn't take any futures trades this morning. Didn't see anything that I liked. What are you looking for trading naked? The back test? Let's see. Oh, there you go. Thanks, guys. I was looking for it. It's the one that Krish posted. Yeah, be more trader. The one that you posted didn't qualify. Because the VIX contracted too much, so that's the other one. Yeah, so going back to who is asking that question earlier, MBK. Yeah, so in the trader, in the trade plans channel, you'll see all the trades and exactly how I trade them. And I put that out one month at a time. So I'm getting ready to post my December trade plan, but the November plans in there, you'll see the option to make a back test links for all the strategies with all the criteria that I use. So this 70-minute uses a trailing stop. So what I've been doing in trade steward is just going in and every time it moves a buck or so, I'll go in and reduce it. So I'm going to reduce that down to 18. So we'll go ahead and stay on here until my AM ratio comes off. Currently up 7.5%. So Krish, you had sent me that reentry. I'm not sure what your question on that. So here's the one that you sent me. Well, I mean, I shared the one that I use. So I would just say, I mean, if you compare it to the one I use, it would be this one. So I mean, your drawdown significantly higher, mar, significantly lower, your win percentage is higher. So it's just a preference. I'm not sure what you're asking for, but I chose the one that I did because that's the one I like. If you prefer a higher win rate, then you should go with yours. If you put more weight in the other metrics, I put more weight in the other metrics rather than win rate. Yeah, it just depends, Krish, on what your preference is. Yours has a higher win rate, but a much lower mar, much higher drawdown. So if win rate is what you're after, then go with yours. I wasn't going after win rate. I was going after a higher mar, lower drawdown. White Tiger, so the AM ratio trade I'm in.  Never mind. I was thinking it was coming off quicker. So that one will come off. The reverse iron condor will stay on all day, so it could just tread water all day and then make a move at the end and still profit. So you could still easily profit on both, or I could hit my profit target or exit on, yeah, so I could hit my profit target, exit on time, or get stopped out, and then win on the other one. So there's a lot of variables there. So when I trade a RIC, I put it on. It either hits my profit target or it expires. Now, my reverse iron condor, my official criteria is VIX needs to be over, I think I have it set at 14, if I remember right. Yeah, minimum VIX at 14, because it doesn't perform as well with this lower VIX, but the market's been going up today. VIX is just kind of sitting there, so I decided to take one on a discretionary basis. And the other piece of that is we've just seen pretty tight ranges over the last week or so, over the last four trading sessions. So I'm just thinking, okay, maybe we push up to the upper expected move, and then we have a little bit more movement, which they obviously benefit from movement. So that was my logic. Yeah, you want to set up your OCOs on just the shorts. So, yeah, kind of like I, before I was using Trade Steward, what I was doing is I would just go in and I would buy the longs and then set up your OCO just on the shorts. Yep. Yeah, so in the morning, yeah, same exact thing. So as soon as the bell goes off or even pre-market, I would have an order in to buy my longs. And then as soon as those get filled, then I would put in my OCO order using the toss order templates. Are you familiar with the order templates? Have you set up any of those yet? Yeah, that's the easiest way to do it. Yeah, RIMP, that's one of the last things I'm trying to figure out for my December trade plan that I'm going to be working on today. I'm not quite sure. I mean, definitely not a $4. I definitely wouldn't be trading a, we've been looking at like a $5, $5.50 straddle at the money is what it's been trading at. Yeah, I don't need a full $4 each side, but I definitely want more than six, which is kind of where I'm leaning to if I don't, if I can't get at least six bucks. Just the risk reward is just pretty, pretty bad. Yeah, $4 would be amazing on each side. I'd love to see $4 again. Yeah, I was just a, White Tiger is just a totally different ball game because there was no everyday expirations. You could test on Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays, but it was just a totally different ball game, you know?  So it's, you know, it's priced lower than it is today. And now it's at almost $4,600. I mean, I guess that's not that much different. We saw $4,100 earlier, but so it depends on how far you go back. Yeah, I noticed that tomorrow. You got a risk that doesn't help your risk reward, right? But, you know, that may be the answer is just taking on more risk for less profit if you're going to do it. My thought, Dick K, is I just, I try to be more conservative on the back test. And if I outperform it in real trading, so be it, but I'd rather just keep my back tests of more of a worser case scenario. Yeah, Chris, like I just said, Tront won. I'm not really interested in trading if I can't get at least six bucks.  And I just, I don't necessarily do that. I mean, I do it more on a broader scope, you know, a month at a time to kind of see how I perform versus the back test. But I don't go in each day and compare my results to the back test. So from my perspective, I don't, it's not that big of a deal. But if that's part of your plan, then I would say, probably makes sense what you're saying.  Thanks, Maro. Thanks for looking out for my zero DTE trade. Is that what you were saying, Dick K, from when you say, from an analysis standpoint, is that what you were talking about when you're comparing your trade to the back test? Or was I completely off on what you meant? Also, Dick K, did you do a six, seven this week? I usually don't do a five, seven and a six, seven, but five, seven worked out well. Gotcha, I see.  VIX is now green. That's right, Dark Avenger. I forgot you do get credit. Thank you. Good job. That's right. If it would have been a loser, I would have blamed you. So you get credit when it worked. Nice. SPX coming back down towards the open. Yeah. With this low volatility, it might be calendar season boys and girls. My back test driven calendars have rocked this year. The one twos, one threes, six, sevens, five, sevens, three, fives. Those have all done good. TGIFs? Not so much. Yeah, so I've got the three, four in my trade plan as well. I just, you know, if I have on a six, seven, then come Monday, the three, four is the same cycle. So I just haven't really, I just, I feel like I'm doubling up. If I do that one. Yeah, the deltas will typically be different. Yeah, that's true. Price right back to where we opened today. Rick's coming to life. He was supposed to, he was supposed to sleep in until about 70 minutes after the bell. So I got in Rick at 945. So 1230 is my exit. Have a good day, Ron. Hope you get a hole in one. I am going to jump off here as well, unless there's any other questions or commentary. Hey, Perry, do me a favor. I don't monitor the zoom chat. Please post in the zero live chat channel. Perry's question was thoughts on trading Rick only before red forex factory calendar events. Yeah, I mean, you could certainly try that.  You know, we've been seeing some pretty decent move around bull. Decent move around bond auctions, which speaking of, I better check to see if there's any of those today. No bond auctions today. But then obviously you got the, a lot of scheduled events are pre-market. So obviously you can't do it then unless you already use like ES or something. You know, we, we trade a long strangle or you could do a Rick around FOMC, but we have very specific setup criteria for that one. After we, after we get the volatility contraction after the, right after the conference starts, you know, and then you get one, like on Friday, there's the ISM manufacturing PMI. You know, to me, that's not something that I'm going to, that's not something I'm thinking it's going to make a major move enough to specifically put on a reverse iron condor before that. But, you know, it's obviously sometimes it'll work, sometimes it won't, but not something that, that I do on a consistent basis. All right, my friends, I'm going to jump off here, jump in a DKS here in about 10 minutes and get out of my AMIC here in about 30. All right, all we'll be back for power hour. Have a good day. Chat with you soon.