The Hairedressers podcast starts now. Featuring Matt Beck, Christina Cavalcanti, Brian Hare, Drea Bolland, Thaddeus Bolland, and Justin Scott. Hey guys, this is Matt Beck from freesaloneducation.com, episode 81 of Splitting Hares. Brian Hare. Hi. Drea Bolland. Hey, hey. Justin Scott. Heyo. Thad Bolland. What's up? Thad rocking his iPhone 6. Yeah, it's gotta go back to the story, though. He finally upgraded. Yeah, and they gave me a broken phone.  That's what I just said. It's funny when I say it. Android guy loves it. That had the original iPhone 1. iPhone. Yeah, like the silver and black one. Oh, that's funny. That's actually the white one. The first one. No, the first one was that silver and black one. Oh, I was just saying the first white iPhone. Oh, I had that one. That was the 3G? Yeah, I remember that with the plastic. That thing was indestructible. I'm scared to hold this. That might be my favorite iPhone ever, actually. When that one came out, it was like, alright, this is cool because it was skinnier.  Yeah. I guess I shouldn't say favorite one ever. I loved the 4. The 4 just felt cool and that also felt pretty tough. And the 4S just felt even cooler. So that's why you kept it for 12 years? Yep.   I just want to point out the fact that Justin has probably had like nine cars in the span that I had one phone. Yeah, that's true. Wait, speaking of Justin's Facebook, I just want to say how funny it is.  No, they don't make me sick. You realize the hypocrisy of them. Not that they make me sick, but they get so aggravated. People that hate on Apple, Justin likes. Yeah, exactly. They can rant all they want. But if you try to defend what you own, he rants. Justin's hipster points just rose with that Facebook. Actually, as we're speaking. It's hipster hypocrisy. He had to shave his beard to bring it back to Apple. Millennium Systems International. Check out millenniumsi.com. I did make that video. I made it in my backyard. Everyone should come to the millennium experience. Oh, you did. I forgot I messed that up. You should do that blooper reel. Maybe I'll post that one. So I shot a video right after the podcast last week. Those of you that were not watching last week, supposed to make for Millennium. A month ago. And so I said, you know what? I'm just going to make it right after the podcast. So that I got my iPhone. Thad's got it. We're doing it. Right. We were on like our third try and I was all the way through. And then Brian from the back room yells, what did you yell? You want me to say it? Yeah. What did you say? No, don't. Okay. Don't Christina remembers whatever it was ruined the video. So I was nervous. I was going to get in trouble until Christina laughed at it. And I was like, okay, I'm good. Of course, Christina laughed at it. What does it mean? Well, it doesn't mean it. I knew I wasn't going to get in trouble. Because mom laughed, but dad didn't. No, I meant, what does Matt mean by saying, of course, Christina laughed? Because you would find that very funny. I've been with you for 10 years. I know that that is something that would be hilarious. I feel like you've said that you've been together for 10 years since I started here. We've been together since 2004. That's 11 years now. Well, in December, it's 11 years. Is this like the five years that you've had to salon for two years? My mom just sent me a text. Hi, hon. Your show was on computer in bedroom. Laugh out loud.  I heard music. I met. Laugh out loud. I thought it was upstairs. She thought George and Harriet were watching. Well, hello from my bedroom. Whoa. Weird. Just got real weird. Yeah. Real fast. While we're doing shout outs, what camera's on? See, my face just got red because of that. My brother won it. Because the computer's on in the bedroom? No, I just, I fry up as soon as we start this. He's so blushed. It must be my blood pressure. Maybe I should get my blood pressure checked. There you go. I don't know what it is. Horrible. No, my brother said he wanted a shout out. He wanted like a Carol Burnett style gesture shout out. Yeah. Which camera's on? All right. There you go, Daniel. Whoa. Hello, Daniel Haire. That's not brother stuff. Have you ever been to Philadelphia? They do that all the time there. They don't do that in the Midwest. No, they don't. Yeah, they do. Did you say, yeah, they do A? Canadians. Canadians do that all the time. They say A in Maine. I used to say that when I was growing up. Okay, wait. So I have a couple more things. I just want to say thanks. What's going on? Donna. What's going on?  He's giving her a shout out because she said it's nice. Yeah. Bridget agreed. Thank you. I'm mad. Thanks a lot. You're a good looking guy. You're real good looking. Hey, you. You're over there. You're so pretty. So party. Hey, dad. Brother Lisa Luke. Okay. Stop. You're so pretty. Like a paintbrush. I know. I feel like we're at a college bar right now. Okay. So we have... My niece watched this. That's true. She's one. Okay. So. Wait. Where's Minerva X? I wanted to talk about. They're actually running a giveaway. Where's Minerva at? Where's Minerva at? I used Georgia. I used Georgia. What on Minerva? There it is. So on MinervaBeauty.com's Facebook page. I also put it up on the free salon education page. But they're having... There's nine more days left. Bloom.com. They're in with that company. I'm not exactly sure what that is, but I think it has a little bit to do with education. It's like an app. But anyways, they're giving away a $225 Sam Villa signature series blow dryer. And also the salon with the most votes will win $1,000 Minerva shopping spree. So and that's May 22nd. So I just saw this online today and I love Minerva. So I figured that would be a good shout out for them. Do you think we could win? Yeah, I guess. I don't know. They would just shake the rule. They didn't tell me the rules. I don't want that. I don't know.  So bloom.com slash contest slash Minerva Enhanced. I don't know what Minerva Enhanced. Go to MinervaBeauty's Facebook page and you can find out the information there. You figured this out on your own. You make it work. Yeah. I got you almost there. There's a contest somewhere. Go enter it.  I think Toys R Us is having one too. Go do that while you're at it. Hey, if there's a contest you should just enter.  How many salon professionals are going to take the time to actually fill something out? And by, when you say that there's a contest, any time that there's a contest, you mean enter your best friend so they start getting all the mailers. Yeah. So that's MinervaBeauty.com and then demandforce.com slash free salon education has now launched their demand force on Yelp. So now you can book appointments from Yelp and they'll request appointments through there. So it takes advantage of the fact that people are researching you on Yelp and then they can request an appointment through that. So demandforce.com slash free salon education sent out an email about them today. So if you guys are on our email list, you'll get that. And then Mizetani Scissors got something cool. I'm going to get you a fan. I'm dying, right? I'm telling you. All right. I wasn't going that far with it. Drama queen? All right. It's just going to get you a fan. All right.  Yeah, that's going to be Thad's new job. Thad. And a mannequin. Thad. All right. So. Fan him. Big news. So this is the Mizetani box here and we got in the mail the other day the version two of the FSE scissor. It was so hard not to just cut with that all day. I know. So I did do a haircut with it on Monday. I love this thing. I love the feel of it. I love the texture of the gold scissor, especially with the way it cuts. So if you guys can see, I don't know, we can't zoom in, but it's got the cool thing about this is we developed it with the gold scissor with a black screw, which I think is really cool. So it's a 6.5 inch. We're only going to make, I think they're doing. I haven't stolen anything in a long time. Between 10 to 15 of those. So we're really not doing too many of them. And three of them are coming here. The mat feels like a chalkboard. To me. Yeah. You say that, but I like the feel of the mat. It gives it like a gritty texture to hold on to a little bit. Yeah. It's not slippery. So I love that scissor. I used it. I cut my scissor the other day and I loved the feel of it. We did some dry cutting with it. We did regular cutting. It's a 6.5. I like a little bit shorter scissor for women's cutting. This is more geared toward barbering, scissor over comb, that kind of thing, but you can use it for anything. If you like a 6.5 inch, it's an awesome scissor. It's wicked cool. It's based off of the blacksmith fit. And I believe it's going to retail for around $500. Oh, wow.  So the cool thing about the FSE scissor is limited edition, but we do get a great deal on it because we order in bulk. People want me to steal it like I used to in the old days. They do. This is why Matt got a larger table. Even if he steals it, he wouldn't send it. He's not giving it up yet. Justin thinks he got a larger table so that Justin could sit at the table. It was actually to prevent buying from stealing stuff. Matt was having a really hard time turning a profit because it just took everything. So yeah. So really excited for this scissor. It's going to be coming out in the next couple months. So we have time. I want to do a gold swivel. Gold swivel? I want my scissors in gold. You should, but it's still going to have that Matt feel to it. No, but I want shiny gold. You know what? There is shiny gold, I believe. Okay. All right. So that's the Mizutani news. I'll just sit down with Kyoshi this weekend. And I have been working on the Mizutani individual scissor videos. So those will be coming out soon as well. So we have a video for every single scissor. I'm going to break down what I like about it and all of that. So that will be coming out real soon. We'll be putting out probably one a week of those. Can I do the one of my scissors? Yeah. Since I like them and you don't? Yeah. Of course. Sweet. Yes. So Brian uses this double swivel, which we've talked about before. So you definitely can do it. 90 episodes ago. Yeah. You can do the videos of the double swivel stuff. It's so crazy how fast this time goes. Talking about how I was Instagram stalking you yesterday. Yeah. There was a picture of something and I remember it. Like it wasn't, it didn't feel that long ago, but it was like episode 31. Something like that. Oh my God. It was so long ago. We've been doing this forever. Yeah. What did you say? I don't know. I'm communicating. Something about being forever. Where do you go? Yeah. I went off in the distance. I'm getting things done over here. He checks out, goes on a mental vacation, comes back. He actually just looked at 3D properties while he was... He's going to go for a minute. We now know the next three FSE videos. Yeah. You know what it is? It's my confidence that you have everything under control. So I just leave the whole situation. Oh, you're so sweet. Pause. Okay. Thanks. All right, cool. No, not... Thanks a lot, Christina. He just checks out. Okay. So, and... What did I do with that box? I probably left it. What box? The Bercato Super Silk Box. Now you've got it up there. Oh, there it is. There she blows. I've been doing this super silk treatment. Josh Exo and Jeremy from Bercato came out here the other day and we did a photo shoot with them based on this super silk treatment. So what I want to do is, we did talk about we had started to do it. My favorite thing totally right now, and I have now had clients come back a week later after getting the express treatment, which basically all I'm doing is it's a $40 upcharge for your clients. It takes no extra time really at all. For the express one? For the express, yeah. So what you do is you take... There's a spray bottle in here and I don't know if everything's in this box right now. Yeah, so there's a spray bottle. So this is the actual silk protein, silk amino acid that you spray into the hair. So what you do is you purify shampoo and then I bring them out to my chair. I spray them with the silk protein amino acid and then I do the whole haircut. So while I'm doing the haircut, this is processing and being combed into the hair. And then at the end, I put the leave-in treatment in. I blow them out, I flat iron them, and that's the extra $40. That will last them two to four weeks. So I'm going to say, depending on how much they blow out, is how long it's going to last. But I had customers that came back a week later. They didn't even touch their hair the whole week because it laid nice.  My number one client. She has really, really coarse, curly hair. This is not a straightening treatment. It didn't do anything to her actual formation of the hair. But what it did was her blow-dry lasted the entire week. She came back in. It looked like I had just flat ironed the thing because it keeps the hair in great shape. Those silk proteins to the hair shaft. And that was the one thing that... The one thing I really loved about what Jeremy was saying was he brought in the two pieces of fabric. And that was the big thing. It's like, well, these are both fabric. The only difference is there's different proteins. I think is kind of where he was going with it. So if you add the silk proteins to anything, it's going to create more of a silk feel. So it's just... It's all about the fabric of the hair. So what this is going to do is go in and make it feel like silk. What I like is how he described how it just fills in the hair and giving back those nutrients. And making it a healthier head of hair. So the exciting news is I just got the approval. I'm going to sell this $69 kit on Shop FSE. So that's going to be really fun because it's going to be easy for you guys to get. I think that was a big challenge because they're not in a ton of distributorship. How much? $69. So you get the $69 kit. You can do a ton of treatments with that. Each bodily set gave between four to five treatments on medium length hair. And every treatment, even if you do two express versions, you've just paid for more than the kit itself. So depending on you on charge. So now we've got someone who says, she's saying what about an Olaplex treatment instead? So comparatively, I feel like Olaplex is really more for repairing the hair. Just straight up going in and repairing and fixing. This is a coating. The chemical change though, isn't it? It's going in and it's actually removing and replacing bonds in the hair while you're doing a chemical process. So that's happening inside the hair. Olaplex is a whole different ball game, the super silk which lays over top of the hair. Giving it a nice hug. I thought about this after Jeremy left, but are we able to mix Olaplex and super silk? Is that a thing? Well, I don't see why not. You've got to look at Olaplex, super silk, all those products, they're not chemically changing the hair. So what they're doing is they're just helping it. They're helping it. So there's no chemical thing happening where if you add in a perm or you add in color or bleach or anything, it's not going to affect it in that way. It's only going to help it because it's adding more bonds to it. Olaplex, we break it down. We've talked about it. Olaplex is like, it's a bond multiplier. So it throws in more bonds, and the bonds are breaking during the color service. That's why you don't get as much breakage with the bonds. So it's adding more rungs to the latter. But as I said, what you did was you added the super silk to a color. Yeah, but we don't talk about that. Rewind. Bleep. That's one of those things that we sometimes we play around. The way we're going. We're not talking about it then move on.  I know what you mean though. Yeah, there's no bad way to add them together. There's nothing saying you can't do a chemical service with Olaplex. That follow-up with super silk treatment unless you're doing reds, he said was like the big no-no. I think it's a fantastic idea to do Olaplex with your color and then do a super silk treatment afterwards. You can't go wrong with that. It would be fantastic because there are two different things. Inside and outside. So that's that. That's coming up with super silk. And I'm also trying to get the Bercato Vibra straight irons on the site as well because I think they're cool and it's hard to buy those as well. So just to make things easier and people are interested in it, I want to have it on there for everybody. So hopefully that will be up in the next few days. Do you want to look at the question we have about the shears right now? Yeah, what's that? Popay, is it? Yeah. Cutting part of the blade if it's cold. I mean, I'm pretty sure it's trying to figure out how is the shear coated in the gold. Talking about the coating on the hair. And Cyprian went into the matte finish on the scissors. Okay, so basically the scissor is coated but it's sandblasted then coated. So it's infused into the metal. But if you look at the edge of the scissor, you can actually see the actual cobalt steel you can see through it. I mean, you can even see it right there. So it's really, they sandblast it and then they powder coat it. But I've been using my other FSE scissor. It's not going to fade. It's built into the scissor. And then to answer the other part of the question, what Wisconsin-Donald was actually talking about, the coating, I know that that was something that he went over in the class that you kind of got to step away from the old, like, nerve... when you use the word coating in regards to hair because it used to mean, you know, like your drugstore coating and stuff like that. It's not like that. It's a good coating. Yeah, this is more like a protective layer compared to like a paraffin buildup or stuff like that that's just gunking up the hair. Yeah, it's coating it with silk protein. So there's nothing... that's not a bad thing. Basically what it's doing is taking something that was a rough surface and filling in those holes with a silk protein to help bond the hair strand back together so it doesn't feel rough and it feels more like silk. So that's all it is. And that's why you flat iron over it because that heat seals in the silk bonds to there. Yeah, it does. What? What? Chicken butt. All right, so that's that. Anything else? You guys ready for FSE? This is your segment. I know, right? I'm tearing it up.  All right, so I think that's pretty much everything. Yeah, I redid the store. Yeah, that looked really nice. Last night Christine was like, what are you doing? I'm like, I don't know. I just wanted to redo the store. So I went on Shop FSE and I just redid. I got a new template to make it look different and cool. I feel like when we're in here, we're always seeing changes in here, so why not tweak the website? Yeah, change. So yeah, so go on to shopfse.com, check it out. That's it. Let's go into FSE social. Tag Free Salon Education. What happened? Oh, hi. I see what he did. Breaking news, Justin doesn't have a voice. Drea took it away. Thank you, Drea. All right, Brian, what we got going on? All right, so I got to say, I only have a little bit this week. There wasn't a whole lot of chatter going on, so you guys got to... I feel like we're moving into... Give me stuff to talk about. Summer, people don't... It's like everything else. It's why TV shows don't go in the summer either. Like YouTube views go down. We're huge in the winter. Yeah. I feel like people should be talking more during the summer. I need summer highlights. I need summer hair protection. I need some conditioning treatments. People like to curl up by the fire with us and just listen to our voices. Yeah. Summer gets me so... It's because I watch the trend and the views and all that. And you start to see it all. Start to slowly just start dropping. And then you're like, what are we doing wrong? So then you get forced to change things up. It ups the blood pressure some more. Yeah. So I'm putting it out there right now. Starting Monday, we're going to do some filming. I think Justin said he was going to come hang out. Anybody's welcome. But every Monday I'm going to be filming random stuff. So it's kind of like if you show up, we'll do some segments together. Whoever shows up, you know? And what I want to do is start filming like crazy the next couple Mondays. And then starting in June, I'm going to put out a video.  Starting in June. And that's my goal. No, no. It's going to happen because they're not going to be big videos. They're going to be like, minute, this is how you scissor over comb. This is how you do whatever. Product reviews, snippets, all that stuff. You know, randomly we're going to throw in a whole step by step. But that's my goal for starting in June because we just got to step that part up and we stopped doing the FSC live for a little bit. So I think it'll be cool to start bringing those videos in. Cool. Cool. All right, go ahead. Cool. Sorry about that. I don't care. All right. First off, we got Maria Lopez. When I first saw that, I was like, oh, Maria Lopez. Oh, no. She said, love watching your videos. It has definitely inspired me to want to cut again. Styling is where my heart lies, but cutting is second place for me. Thank you for sharing your videos. It's really nice. Yeah, that is nice. It's good to hear. Again, I know the feeling. So yeah, that's all. Julie Greer had asked us last week where to find the videos, the Mizutani contest videos. And we told her and she just kind of liked her feedback. It was just cute. She said, thank you for the direction to the videos. Honest, I looked so many times, but missed the links on the bottom of the page. Sat down this morning and watched. PS, the show just gets better. Cool. That's good. We like positive feedback. Yeah. My girl, Shiddity. I just like saying that. I say girl. I don't know. Is that it? I don't know if it's a girl. I don't either. I'm a person. Shiddity. Great podcast. Would love to see a segment on business, for example, increasing business, retaining clients, et cetera. Yeah. We're actually going to, we're going to get into that today a little bit. A little bit. Yeah. I think I might be going down. Having a stroke. Something might be happening with me. So then we'll call your voiceover people and then do a little segment for yourself. Yeah. Blood pressure's up. There you go. We'll put it at the beginning of the show. It's been nice, guys. Should we call Affleck? Yeah. Get that set up. Shocking on his car. But we are going to talk about, we have some cool news things with Justin that have to do with business a little bit. Cool. And this is actually perfect. The second half of the comment says also Justin and a little more Brian. Love you guys. That's what you like. That person. I thumbs down. Wish granted. Actually somebody thumbs up it, which I thought was funny. I thought it was you. It wasn't me, but I thought it was funny. Then we've got one. This is a little longer, but I thought it was kind of funny. I'm going to not read all of it because it is super long from Der Patrick. Okay. First of all, I love splitting hairs. I watch every episode on YouTube. I'm not even a hairstylist, but I love hair, I guess. I just cut my own hair and did a balayage to my girlfriend who is a hairstylist, which came out pretty great. Yeah. So he's in the family. You know what? This is, I wanted to talk about this and I think it's, I think it's a little funny because I watch, we are not creating videos for people to do at home. I mean, that's never the intention. Right. And I really hope that that doesn't happen.  Every hairdresser says the same thing. I've been, well, technically I've been doing hair since I was 13 because I used to do hair at my house for all my friends. I used to cut it.  It's like, oh, well, YouTube's the new DIY for, for hair. Everything. And it's just funny, like, are you really upset? Like, are people really, if somebody wants to get that good at balayage, for instance, good enough to where they're going to watch tons and tons of videos to learn how to do it and start doing it on their friends, I mean, they're exactly like us. They just don't have a license. Right. Everyone starts somewhere.  And that's the thing. It's like, is it taking away from us? It kind of is, but for the most part, they're screwing it up. And we fix it. And we do fix it. And those are people that would have done it anyways. Right. They would have tried it anyways for the most part. But I just think it's funny to people. If you're going to let someone else do it, you're really not looking to go get salon quality hair to begin with. Right. But I do have a funny story on this, though. The whole YouTube video watching it. My one guest today. It's the first second time I worked there. She moved back in California. She has a 10-year-old daughter and when she got her hair cut off, like, she had it real long and she got it cut off and she got home and her daughter saw how upset it made her. So her 10-year-old daughter goes on YouTube and looks up all these videos on how to grow your hair faster. Aww. And I thought it was the funniest, cutest thing in the world and it just made us think of this like, what if she saw any of our videos? Yeah. Going through that, looking through some hair videos. Yeah, you really never know. I had a lady, the curly hair bob that I cut today. She drives two hours to come get her hair cut and she's, this is her third visit from YouTube. She saw my, I remember her first visit. Me cut the curly bob on YouTube and she comes, she drives four hours round trip. I have a couple color clients because of videos that we've done. It's pretty cool. So it's like, it's a cool industry and people that are so upset about YouTube and everything, it's just because they didn't jump on it fast enough and, you know, there's a lot of people that are creating great careers based on YouTube because they get to, they get the exposure. You know, you look at people like Guy Tang which we're going to talk about in a little bit. But, the, the whole thing was about, this person is not a licensed stylist. That's what we're getting away from. Oh, okay.  You do, yeah. So, if you're just friends and go like, that's one thing, but if people are actually complaining about people learning online, I mean it's valid to be upset about. It is valid but we've all done it. We all did it before. That's what got us in this. Yeah, I was going to say like, if you're talking a hypocrite, like getting mad about something that, you know, I get that point of it, but. Yeah, I don't, I get that people, that was, I thought you're getting away from the person, you said everyone's doing something, look at Guy Tang. I thought you didn't realize the person wasn't a stylist when you just started getting into that. No, I realized that. I don't want people to think that I'm like, pro, don't get a license and learn on YouTube. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that, people are very anti-YouTube and I think YouTube is a great outlet for people to learn on. Hell yeah. I think it is too, yeah. And, and it's the easiest way to get it out there. It's, it's a lot of hairstylists are looking up how to do tricks and tips on YouTube. Right. So it is a good outlet. You can't put it anywhere else and get the same. You put it on hairbrained and. My misunderstanding, I thought you were talking about not style. That wasn't a stylist. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, like Justin and I like go out on YouTube and look at how to like do like car repairs all the time. But where else am I trying to open up a shop? Right. Exactly. I've been licensed for like six years now and I still watch the same haircut I can do. I watch three other people for other people do it just to pick something else up. Right.  I'm not saying that. Yeah. Maybe I'm not making sense. No, I'm glad you said I was not a stylist. Yeah. If you're trying to learn how to do hair and open up a shop illegally, don't do it. Yeah. I just thought this one guy was funny because he's doing it on his girlfriend who is a hairdresser. So she probably like. She's probably right there.  Well, it's like it's like when Christina does my hair. It's hilarious. It's so fun, you know, because. No, it's not that fun. It's very funny. I've done it like twice because it's so fun. It's not fun for anyone to do your hair. Well, that's true. Yeah. But, you know, whatever. But I just thought it was funny. Whatever. You just thought it was funny. Anyway, so he also goes on talking about how the poor guy apparently has extraordinarily curly hair and has tried many different things. Permanent straightening and then he got a relaxer and nothing is working and everything is breaking his hair off. And he's saying do you have any tips? What could have gone wrong? I have no idea. Like I feel bad. I wish that I could do this for him. But first and foremost, he's in the Netherlands. They have very different standards for what their products are like. Is this the same guy? Yeah. So I guarantee I've never heard of what they're probably using in his head. Yeah. Because American standards and Netherlands standards are. This is where you might want to get off the end and go to somebody. Well, no, he is. No, he's been going. Yeah. He went to a salon and had it straightened last year and it didn't take. And then his girlfriend, the actual professional hairdresser, relaxed it a year later and it stayed curly. A lot of times, relaxers aren't going to make it so that you have this silky straight hair. Right. It's going to relax the curl so that you can get it straight easier. That was, I mean, I remember when I was right before I started beauty school, I got a relaxer because I thought that's what it was going to do. I know. I was the same way. Yeah. It's not what it does. I didn't get one. Obviously, I have very straight hair. But. What? I did one and on really, really curly textured hair and I did it and I was like, oh, it just relaxes. That's what it is. It's a relaxer. And once it's relaxed, then you can blow it out easier. I thought it was a straightener and that's why people don't do relaxers. They do straighteners that want straight hair. So, and that's why they throw the formaldehyde and all that junk in their hair to permanently straighten it. Oh, they're so stinking. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. That's funny. All right. Where was I? Stephanie Fears says, thank you. I wanted to leave a nice comment to balance out the mean ones. I really appreciate all of your information, especially the GoPro haircuts. Do you think you can do a GoPro color service or highlight service? We can totally do that. I saw that comment earlier and I was like, so I rushed to the thing. I was like, I was saying bad things because I'm always worried about the show. I don't know what's going to happen. Yeah. But I didn't see any negative comments. So, do you know what they're talking about? Well, we talk about it. We mentioned that people throw shade and hate stuff out there. Okay. Maybe we talked about that. Maybe she was talking about the less me comment. I think that's what it was and I appreciate it. Oh, yeah. That's true. That was a negative comment. Yes. Yeah. Let's just. All right. That'll be the next T-shirt. Less Justin. More Brian. More. That'll say that on the back. Less Justin. More Cowbell. More Cowbell. This Justin. More Brian. Oh. Hashtag what up, Minerva? All right. You got that now? Let's see. That's what I'm guessing on that one. It says Beaver was serving some Liberace realness with that tuxedo jacket. I love it though. Yeah. Robin Warden said, great show this week. I especially like it when Christina makes matte blush. I mean, it is cute. It happens a lot. It does. Yeah. On last week's cut, we got a couple more people. Anastasia Worthington. Another wonderful cut. Thank you, Matt and the FSC team. She all welcome. Cute. And Shubhan Rydnick said, thank you for sharing your knowledge. I really appreciate it. And then there were some people I didn't understand. There was a link to other stuff that I didn't click on so I don't know where it went. Okay. And I'm done. Cool. Sweet. Yeah. All right. Awesome. What else? Anybody? No. You want to say anything? Did you want to talk about that thing that I was telling you about earlier? The girl that got completely overcharged at the salon? Yeah. We can talk about that and then I'm going to get into to the find the trip thing after that. So. I don't know what you're talking about. I know. It's good though. So yeah. Let's talk about that first. Oh yeah. No, I was just, I was talking to someone yesterday. It was one of those, there's horrible things that as a hairdresser you hate to hear. Anyone in any profession hates to hear that someone getting screwed over or having a really bad experience. And she was telling the story yesterday about, she's like, okay, what would you do? And she describes what her hair is like and what she wanted from the salon.  I didn't even know if it was a full haircut. And they charged her like almost 500 bucks and she still bought products and they were charging for a full head of foils even though she only had five foils in her head that she like counted herself. And she used to work in a salon so she knew, you know, how much this stuff costs and what it is that you do. And I was just sitting there just cringing. This isn't really going anywhere. It was just another one of those horror stories that I unfortunately and it happened up in New York. And I just remember that's something that we've hit on a whole bunch of times. People are like, oh, I went to New York to get my hair done. And all that means is there's just more people. So there's a greater chance of getting someone horrible. And I told her, I was like, actually, is that like true? Well, people act like because it's New York City. And now I know they're going to be amazing. And I told her, I was like, just so you know, New York actually requires less hours to get your license than New Jersey and Pennsylvania. So yeah, there's a greater chance that they might be terrible. Yeah. I mean, which means nothing now that we have YouTube videos. Right. Yeah.  They watch us. But that's it. You got to look at like, I know obviously growing up in Iowa, I always thought that, you know, New York, the big city. Yeah, would be like, a lot of people think more expensive the best. Right? Yeah. Maybe they were five awesomely placed foils. They were made of gold leaf. But the fact that the itemized receipt said full head of foils. Oh, it did. Yeah. Oh, you left that out. No, I didn't. Oh, I just weren't there. Wait. I didn't hear that either. No, he said that she was charged. He didn't say itemized receipt. Oh, yeah. She got an itemized receipt. Oh, yeah.  Yeah. And it said full head of foils on there. That's like worst nightmare in a salon. Can I get an itemized receipt? But if you do that, you deserve for that to happen. What? Yeah. You're going to, like the place itself wasn't cheap anyway. She's saying it's like $103 haircut kind of place. Right. It's a nice place. Oh, God. Nice people. Okay. And then my, so... Oh, Daryl Patrick's watching. There was actually someone who got like platinum carded and they got charged for five foils. So... They totally just checked out. I did. I did. Did everybody else too? I had a Matt Beck moment where I was like, it's just Brian talking. Sorry. I just...  Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. You just got beck'd. Don't... Don't wipe. Don't wipe. Don't wipe. Don't wipe. Everybody else is listening. I don't need your guys approval. It's usually like punked. You just got beck'd. I know, right? That's what we're calling it now. You just got the max pay... Oh, man. That'll be a good t-shirt. Just be like dot, dot, dot, huh? Hashtag beck'd. All right. So all... I'm going to write these down. These are... This is gold. We're giving you a t-shirt gold. No, we'll sell one. It's fine. Um, borrow a little RM. Okay, so big conversation on Facebook the other day, I saw it. Did you guys see the behind-the-chair magazine cover? Yes. Okay, so I have an image of that Chris if you want to put that up. So Gai Tang was on the cover and this has nothing to do. I'm going to put that out there right now with Gai Tang in my mind. But people were freaking out about it's up in the corner. It's right there. I pointed the wrong way. So this is the Gai Tang cover of behind-the-chair magazine. Above my head. So big conversation on Facebook about professionalism because it says hashtag hair porn on the cover. Which is, I guess it's like tagline, right? I think I know why that is. Why? Because it's very easy to find very inappropriate naked pictures of Gai Tang online. So doing the hashtag hair porn thing I think is probably trying to redirect when you look that kind of stuff up. That could be. It's my guess. This is the big thing. So this was the cover of the magazine talking about the industry which really has nothing to do with the hair industry whatsoever.  So they were talking about behind-the-chair.com. And what I think is funny is in my opinion I would love to see this kind of talk about behind-the-chair.com because it's not my favorite thing. And I've had run-ins with the company and it's not my thing. And that's pretty much all I'm going to say. Do you think they're just trying to make the relation between how people do hashtag food porn and things that are attractive? So I think he thinks all of his work is super-duper attractive. Yeah, but put his work on there I think is the like call that hair porn. Don't show him. Because he's... Yeah, but that's just... But that's his following. That's just... You know what I mean?  Well, I mean... Let it out, Christina. You don't have anything nice to say. Don't say it again. Since when? No, no, no, no. I don't want to... I don't know him. I don't either. So I don't want to make a comment. I don't know him. I think he's fun. He didn't say behind-the-chair.com. Can you put me half shirtless on the front cover of your magazine? They asked him to do that. Right. And I know who they are. And that's where I think a lot of people know within the industry now. But have any other artists happens to be his hashtag? Artists, they always put a hairdresser on there. Yes. So that's his hashtag. For the most part. And that's kind of like hair and porn. Take them separate, like look at what they mean. You know what I mean? I can get what they're doing. I mean, I don't see why everyone's so angry about it. Can I take a half-shareless photo for the recent education website? Yes. To direct it back to my Instagram? Yes. But that's a thing. So, Justin, more Brian. It's the whole magazine. I didn't flip through the magazine. Is it filled with hair or is it more pictures of him? Because then I would be like, oh, there's like a center fold of him. That would be weird, you know? That would be like, okay, get over yourself. But is it hair? I perused the article. It was like his, like, like a biography of him. Pictures all like that? And I think Guy Tango. That notion? No, it was like him at hair shows. Yeah. I'm sure there was a couple more like that. So I could get the relation, you know? I could see why the whole, if the whole magazine wasn't. Well, it's also, I forgot, Mickey just reminded me, hair porn is just one of the many graphic terms that he uses. Like, that's his thing. Yeah. Filthy mouth. But then that's getting into like... Somehow tying it around the hair. Right. But look at what he's created. Right. I mean, he's got the good work to go with it. So you just kind of say, all right, here it goes. Yeah. So what I don't... As mentioned, it's doing what he wants it to do. Like, it's a hashtag. It needs to gain attention. And look, it's happening. And it's getting attention. Like, people are talking about it more than just looking for... He's just gonna hate. And as much as I... He's just gonna make me famous. Yeah. Like, that's exactly... He's like Miley Cyrus. Yeah. Yeah. Swinging. Yeah. But that's the thing. I'm gonna keep this picture up. Sorry. You are? No, I'm not. But that's the thing. So I think that... Can we move it so that it looks like that's what's sitting at Matt's chair? Just put it over my face. But that's the thing. You have to... I think people were freaking out about it. It blew up. It was like a big conversation and everybody's like, well, this is why... What was the reasoning? I didn't see. So I'm just curious. It was just... Everybody was saying that it was making the industry look bad. And this is... This is what BehindTheChair.com is all about is things like this and not really about quality work and talented people. And BehindTheChair.com is very, very sponsor focused, which everybody has sponsors or whatever. That's how the whole industry works. But... To the world works, man. I mean, I don't... That's... I don't know. He's representing himself and that's how he wants to represent himself. I don't think he's hurting anyone. Yeah. I don't think he's hurting anyone. I don't think it's... Nipples for everybody. I think so. I've gone to a hair show before and I... We sat into a class and the person was so high I could tell. And he was representing a company. Yeah. And it was just crazy how boring the class was and lack of... And I'm just... I think people just want to hate on him. Yeah. You got to get in there. You got to look at... He has over, I believe, over 1,000 Instagram followers. So people are following what he's doing. And people talk about the hair that he does with the fluorescent colors and all of that and saying everyone can do that. Well, I do agree with that. But post a picture of anything else. You'll get nothing. Post a picture of somebody with rainbow colored hair and you get a ton of looks at it. So are you looking for exposure? What are you trying to do? Guy Tang knows how to do it. But again... So that's why I never wanted this conversation to be against him because honestly I think he's smart at what he's doing. And that's the end of it. I agree. I don't agree technically with the cover of the magazine. I think it should have been more focused on his work or something like that and not the hashtag. But I get that that's him and that's what he does. And I think it's just my deep down not liking the whole thing. That it went right into the garbage after I got it. That was that part of it. But it really had nothing to do with him. It was more of...  Yeah, yeah. I'm sure. Yeah. All those tank tops. So that's that. That was breaking news in the industry. It was a big discussion. That was my son. Online. He took my segment. No, it wasn't. Okay. So who's next? Who wants to go next? Dre. Is there any chatter about that or are we... Mickey wanted to call in. He wanted to call in? Yeah. He can call in. You know the number. Tell him he can call. Justin said no. No. Mickey didn't say... Oh, I thought that was... No, it was Mickey. No, Allison Jules said can I call. Which is... That's freaking Claudia. And I said no to Claudia. But yeah, Mickey can call in. I said no to Claudia. I said no to Claudia. Yes to Mickey. Anybody can call in at any time. It's 844 FSE live.  But if you call now... Yeah, I can't really say that. All right. So you want to get into trending dresses and people...  We haven't heard Dre's voice at all today. Yeah, let's see it. Get the 411 on Celebrity Hair Changes. Here's Trending Tresses with Dreia Boland. Dreia? Well, hello. Hi. So nice of you to show up. Thanks.  We were practicing before you got here.  Sorry, I was at the gym.  Sorry. I actually go to the gym. Did you ever hear of it, Dad? Sorry, I had to wait for my pre-workout to burn off. You know, like pre-workout, the stuff you take before you work out. Okay, this is about me right now. Is it? What is happening? All right. Go for it.  She's not... Such a cute picture. It's an adorable picture. I also love the fact that she has yet to show the finished product of her hair. Just the teaser with her hairdresser. You love that? I do.  I just love her. She's adorable. She is. But so I thought that was fun. So stay tuned for what her actual haircut looks like later. Leah Michelle has cut some serious bangs into her hair. Serious? Like half her head? Yeah, it's... There. She's got a ton of hair though, so I'm sure when it's down, it's fine. But I really like it. I normally don't like that heavy of a look, but I like this one. So I thought that was fun. Any comment, Brian? No. Okay. All right. Nope. It just makes me think of my client, Laura, because our running joke every single time when I go to cut her bangs is I'll always find like a couple of random hairs that fall in. And I'm like, look, they want to be bangs too.  Yeah, that's true. Adam Lambert has gone blonde, or more like, bronze. Bronze? Bronze. I dug it.  He looks away. Adam Lambert pops up on the huge screen. Like a screensaver. Yeah. What is it? I'm trying to airdrop. Oh. No. Moving on. What does that mean, Thad? I think he's trying to covertly send you something so he's to go on the show and tell you. Well, I was trying to tell him to just check his phone because my phone is saying waiting. I don't know what it... Thad texted to me. This is supposed to be easier. That's the jobs. The jobs is dead. Well, we got meetings in town. Soup's dead. All right. We'll find out if they're legit now. Don't worry. Dry his segment. He couldn't. Yeah. He said he got a voicemail. Did we unplug the phone line? Well, let's check that later. All right. So, thought that was fun. And then with his lighter hair color. And then we have James McAvoy. McAvoy. McAvoy. McAvoy. We got you. Thank you. And he is getting ready for his role in X-Men with the nice little shaved head. So excited about this. Me too. I geeked out when I saw it on Instagram. This was just for Brian. I was like, Justin, did you see? He finally shaved it. And that's trending dresses. And that was exactly the conversation. And that's how the cookie crumbles. All right. That's awesome. You know what I remembered? What? I have a test of a product that I ordered online last week while Christina fell asleep. She couldn't say no. So she didn't know about it. Dad, actually it's on the thing though. Of course. Because I forgot it. And I also have another product from Pivot Point. The towel. And it's working. Pivot Point decided to send me. Capes. Because I love them. No. I still have to talk to my nerve about capes. Oh, yeah. The snap cap. The snap cap. I need one of those for my aunt. That's creepy. I need one of those just for me. Wow. That's awkward. This is the head. Oh, I like that face though. Yeah. Yeah. It's so funny. I love talking to Pivot Point on the phone because they get so into it. She has eyelashes. Yeah, she has eyelashes. She's real pretty. So this is the head. So I'm going to see if I can get this on here. Because everyone talks about it's complicated. And I've never tried it before. Pop this girl off. So I got to get the tool. So there's a tool. There's probably a patent on it. There's a lot of tools in this room. At least pending. So here's the tool. I hope this is easy. Because this would be a really bad commercial if it's not. There's probably instructions, which is what Christina tells me to read all the time. I'm the same way. I just wing it. It's going to break this face in half. All right. You read instructions when you're halfway through and you can't figure it out. Oh, look at that. All right.  You got your special tool. Look at that.  That's so creepy. This is amazing. What are they talking about? This is so easy. Well, give it a moment. You got to put the hair on. All right. We're getting there. That is so creepy. I am your mother. Way creepier than our normal mannequin. Guys, seriously? That was the easiest thing ever. Pull on it. Hold it by the ponytail. Swing it in a circle towards that. I'm telling you. So here's the cool thing. And what I love about Pivot Point is that you're on the softball team. That was a try and come watch every game. Nope, you're on it. Christina, did you see that? We should use the heads instead of softballs. Brian was good when he played. Brian, unscrew it. The one game that I was allowed to play. On the softball team. Wait for it. Look, look. Where's that? And where's Dre? We can't tell. So Pivot Point, they really focus on the way the hair grows out of the scalp. It's made to be a natural fall. And they're all different because they're all handmade. And they're also the only place that is actually certified that they take care of their workers, basically. There's a lot of sketchy mannequin head making places out there. And Pivot Point is actually a... I think it says it on there. On the tag it says, Brian. What am I reading? There's a lot of stuff there. SAI, Social Accountability International. Yeah, so there's... World's preeminent social standards is a tool for implementing international labor standards to protect workers along each step of the supply chain. So... They leave it with other fingers. No sweatshops. Exactly. Awesome. It's a great company. I love them. That's why we've always worked with them to get their mannequins. But pretty cool, right? I like that smell. I can't think of what it is. I was going to say, how does it smell? And it's probably better for the environment too. Yeah, because you're not going away the heads. You're just ordering a new cap whenever you need it.  You make cool planters out of it. Yeah. All the styrofoam that McDonald's stopped using when it's mannequin head. Yeah. Wow. I like the smell of it.  Okay. What kind of basement? Like, not a really mildly way like nasty one. Like our basement? But like a basement. Just smell it. Do you get basement? It's probably because it was in a warehouse. I want Christina to smell it. Okay. I took it out of the drawer. All right. Brian, it was probably because it was in a warehouse. Chris, can you go to the basement? Yeah. Like the GoPro camera. What do you want me to do? The GoPro. It's in your grandma's warehouse. Sure. The pong. The pong camera. Here, Matt. Ready? Here. Third test. You have the team. You're on the softball team. You're on the softball team. Can you put the hair cap on? Oh, yeah. Two of our listeners.  Do you want to join our softball team? Why do you want it on the GoPro right now? Because we're doing stuff. He's doing a test. I know, but it just got him do all. Like, it just watched him do all that. Well, I didn't want it to like, you know. Skilled. Are you done with the GoPro? Do you want me to be honest? The skinnier camera. So, we totally went without. Well, no. I like the fisheye on my wide. I'll stop it. Mad Max in the house right now. Brian. Okay. Thanks for doing what I was going to do. All right. So, do we have the products? I want long hair. This guy. This is awesome. Dad, did we find that product? I feel like one of the do-all singers should be a little shop of heart. He never passed it long. Okay. Can you pass that down, Brian? I'm busy. So, we have the Amica blow dryer. So, the other night when I was sleeping, a Facebook ad came up. And this is the no-noise. And I'm sure you guys have seen it on your face. Silencer for your blow dryer. Silencer for your blow dryer. So, we're going to see if it really works. We talked about it. We did. Last week. Or whenever you were getting ready. Did I talk about ordering it? Well, we talked about the fact that it existed. All right. Well, now... So, we haven't used it yet. We're trying it for the... Oh, okay. Sorry, I was just going to ask you. Trying it for the first time. First time ever. Then I'll do a full review of it. It came in the mail. It's a deal. Wait, turn it... Oh, sorry. Do it first. Yeah, the thing I love about the... Thanks. All right. All right. All right. All right. So, the thing I love about the Amica blow dryers, it's probably one of the most powerful blow dryers we've used. Right? It's super powerful. It's like a jet. It pisses me off when I'm trying to do foils. And someone's blow drying over there. And it's over here blowing the hair around. Yeah. So, that's how loud... I feel like a Kardashian. No, it worked. I blew the hair. Yeah. I looked like a Kardashian. So, now what I'm going to do is I'm going to unscrew this, I think. No. You didn't read the directions? No, I'll figure it out. Of course not. There is no direction. No, when he figures it out, it's after it's put together. And he's like, oh, this doesn't work.  We're just going to get a new one. When you buy things on Facebook, they don't come in with directions. Whatever, guys. Just like Facebook. Yeah, I don't see any directions. So, if the company's watching right now, not right now, but one of these days when they watch. You're welcome. Sponsor. No, they're probably like, we sent direction. Send us a whisper. Okay. So, there's sticky pads. Shit, I remember that. Take it back. They need the ying-yang tweezers. Hang on. This is important stuff. Just sponsor them. Is it? Yeah. So, there's sticky edges on here. So, I took the sticky tape stuff off. And now we're going to shove this onto here. Wait, it just sticks with tape? Yeah. Get in there. Anybody else getting weird noise? Someone says we hit something and there's weird noise coming out. Is it just the one? Maybe it was the blowtorch. Yeah, I was just saying, was it the blowtorch? No, he said it a second ago. Sipper input basket. Are you the only one hearing weird noise? Anybody else hearing weird noise? Matt, is it just a sticky tape? Yes. But it's like a double-sided pretty thick tape that also comes off in on the thing. It's already on there or you put it on? No, it was already on. Okay.  Oh, okay. Kind of like those door hanger? Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. So, it's stuck on there. That's never coming off. Did we... Never coming off of there. Let's make sure we fix the noise first, though. Okay, yeah. Somebody's saying real bad sound, guys. No, guys, that's just Justin. I don't know. I'm not sure how to fix it because our sound sounds good. Someone says no weird noise. Someone says they hear it. No noise for me. Amy Berry hears it. What does it sound like? Is it still happening? Is it a static? What is it? Tell us what it is. The show must go on. Static. Okay, so maybe you hit something when you got up? When he did the blow dryer, maybe? I put my hair in a ponytail. That's what I'm wondering if it was a blow dryer and it just kind of blew out the... For those of you with noise, sorry, we're going to keep going. Because some of you are saying no noise. Well, we just don't know what it is. Just pretend that you're listening to us on vinyl. I mean, just pretend it's a nice beach sound in the background. Amika just blew up everyone's computer speakers. Okay, let's hear this thing with the silencer on it. Are we sure? Are we moving forward? Do it. That's not helpful at all. It's exactly as loud as it is without it. Yeah. Maybe you didn't read the directions right? It's stuck on there. Is there an on-off switch? It's not a complicated one. Blow in it, Matt. Like a Nintendo game. Yeah, exactly. Maybe it's like Nintendo. They said it's only when we talk. Is something up with the mics? Maybe. All right, nobody else talk. Testing. One, two. Just text for the rest of the show. No, I'm not. Maybe if we unplug the hair dryer, maybe something happened when you plugged it in. I wonder if it's the... Let me go to the live. Amika, we need a new blow dryer. It's making the ticking sound. Okay. So the only way we can fix that... We have a grandfather clock in here, and that's just background noise. Sorry, guys. It's a bandwidth thing, so we need to... Has everyone paused? Has everyone paused? I'm paused. We paused. Wicked paused. We so paused. What do you want me to do? You know what? I don't know, because I don't... Everyone says it's fine. I know. If everybody can just write to our Comcasts. They're like, guys, just move on. It's fine. So... I'll deal with it. Do we recommend this? No, it didn't do anything. This is terrible. So no noise is also...  Yeah, they sent us the wrong one. They sent us the one that is noise. Yes, noise. Wait, you mean to tell me something that you saw advertised on the side of Facebook? Wasn't groundbreaking? Did you buy that? Yeah, for $29... Sucker. $29, I think, $25. What? Yeah, rip it off. Matt, I have some stuff I'd like to sell you. I promise it'll work. Just trust me. That's a tax write-off right there. It's not hard to sell Matt anything. No, but I wanted to show people... I got me hired. It's... You know what? I just saved... People, what's worth it? I just... I'm just kidding. I just saved thousands of people. $29. Yeah, no. I tried taking this off. That goes to Hayden's college fund. So if everyone... Hope you guys are happy.  Here, make these better. That's where it goes now, guys. I just saved everyone, you know, $29. If everyone could just send me $1. Yeah, if people...  So we're going to start a Kickstarter.  Actually test it for them. To find out if it works or not. Yeah. All right. It's not a bad idea. Still have that on your head. Dude, this hurts my head really bad. Okay. So why are you still wearing it? Because it looks so good. We have industry news. I'm just trying to figure out if we can... If the sound... I just want to balayage this. And then it's perfect. You know, it's...  What? The whole thing. Everyone said it's fine. It's still clicking. I can hear it, but... But it wasn't clicking that they were complaining about. They were saying it was static. Okay. All right, cool. So we're good. All right. That's just your blood pressure. Yeah. Freaking out because you spent $29.99.  Your heart ticking. All right. You started sweating when you told Christina that you bought it. I know. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's a natural reaction. No, no. Air industry news. It's been pretty out to be so... It's been pretty out to be so... Hey, guys. What happened? Sorry. It's Justin's segment. Let's everyone be quiet. You might. Breaking news. Justin has his mic back. Hey. My now. Give me my cable. Okay. Cool. We got some things to talk about. Do we? We do. One of them. Some states require that you have to have a license to serve alcohol. Not even sell it, but serve it. Some states make it illegal for you to even just serve alcohol for free. Some states require those states where it's kind of shunned upon to hand out liquor. But now, all of our California viewers, they're trying to make it legal like many states have for you to hand out beverages for free. Though it's going to be very, very simple, kind of like here. You can't hand out any servings past 10 p.m. It cannot be more than 12 ounces of beer, 6 ounces of wine per glass. Why do people find this to be... Why do some hair people find it... What's the word I'm looking for? Not a good thing. Inappropriate. Inappropriate. Yeah, thank you. Not a good thing. And it makes no sense. I don't even drink, but I still drink. What's that? You're a thesaurus, man. You need to calm down. You need to calm down. You're in trouble. Why do people look at it as not a good thing? I have no idea. I just think it's a good thing. I think people think that when you say that you give your clients alcohol, that you're letting them have free reign, that it's like open bar. Yeah. And none of our clients are leaving here hammered. No, there's a specific amount you're allowed to give.  Although, being a bartender, it's sometimes hard to tell if people are drinkers and if they're on any medications, and then all of a sudden they turn like another person. Yeah. If you're coming from that standpoint, I could understand, but we're just serving one bottle of beer or a glass of wine. Don't put out a bowl of candy because some people have diabetes. And we... If you have an issue, if you're taking medication, that's your responsibility. Yeah, but at the same time... I'm serving peanuts in those cookies to that kindergarten class. YOLO. YOLO. YOLO. And there's a lot of dead kids now. But Darwin back in school. So we only serve sweet... We just served... How much do we serve you? We serve one of the clients through it. Okay, bring it back, Mars segment. All right, wait. So we serve 12 ounces of beer. I think it's four ounces of wine And then it's like or it's a figure of scotch. Yeah, we yeah, so we we serve a certain amount And then we do not give them anymore So if they ask for another one we say legally we cannot give you another And we're not drinking with them. Yeah, I think that we're not wait. Is that what we're supposed to say? Yes, whoops Yolo yolo currently sure on the bottle. That's what I've been doing. I would think that the other Reason why you wouldn't want to give clients is that if you're an owner that you're concerned that your staff would be drinking too Yeah, yeah, I mean some steps are uncontrollable Yeah, like Justin, but I had to take the bottle of scotch away from Justin just last week Yeah, but you gotta look at like um, I think it I think it's a good thing I think you know, I don't I don't say you should or shouldn't really you can make that decision But I think it's I don't think it's a bad thing and we try to serve it in the proper glasses and it's a presentation You know, it's not it's not just here's a box of wine. Hey, it's one of our perks Yeah, but we're not just it's about the we don't have a box of wine in the corner in there They go and do free refills. Yeah, like um, I need a box of wine Drey and I were visiting a bar and one of the bartenders was actually telling us that the place that he goes It's a barbershop place that he goes that they give you a beer and a shot of Jameson as soon as you walk in That's them. That's their thing Barbershop, you're not gonna have that usually ever in a salon But you continue drinking like As long as you're there you can have like whatever you want. Yeah, but you gotta think too people 15 minutes, it's a barbershop not even that though guys go to a barbershop and I have no barbershops You just go hang out all day long So that's a whole different atmosphere of this. Oh, I'm not saying that it's right or wrong I'm just saying like yeah, we're not like doing that like no, but Scott Scott Wilk and Tom Daley. Thank you for this. It's going to the Senate. So it should be passed soon California get wasted The straight-edge guys with you to serve alcohol get hammered YOLO What else may is apparently posture month. Did we all know this shoot?  I have five ways I was looking up different like steps to keeping like standing taller just primarily for hairdressers and They don't really make sense Really? Yeah, some of them really are just confusing the way they explain these. What are they? Cuz I'll do them right now stand tall not stiff Relax and lengthen Your head toward the ceiling. Yeah, no not look up Matt. I thought he said float your head Okay, so you already remember that one number two ground your feet Slowly come up onto your toes then switch to your heels roll roll your feet out Then in press off four corners of the feet to the ground Yeah, that's to get your like yoga stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is this was not a helpful list That's what I'm saying. So I'm showing it. Okay. No, but if you actually did that it feels so much better Yeah, but I was trying like I looked so hard to find like posture tips for hairdressers or people that feel day And it just kept pulling back to lists like this that we're not practical to do while cutting hair No, they're not saying they're not talking about to do it while you're cutting hair. They're saying but in doing oh You're gonna relax you Just fine. Not even just that it helps you just be more aware One little just passion like after you take a yoga class you feel that you know how to stay straight for the first time ever If while you're not busy you stand up straight and put your hands behind your back They say that's a good thing Yeah Well, yeah, so it's national posture month.  What a Minerva?  No, yep. Yeah, they're in the car ride and you see Minerva's logo right behind the head We paused it and I took a picture and sent it to them. I was like guys. Do you know watch them in number, too? Yeah, no, we didn't watch all this Yeah, we did make it Anyways are okay continuing what else did I find I found a cool article that found five myths to essential hair oils Or essential oils in hair. This is interesting. Yes, it is very Usually a lot of the times when I go to try not even just to sell product But educate guests on product like the midnight say anything about oil a lot of time you have that hesitant still I don't want to buy that. I don't use oil my hair. It's too heavy. It's gonna weigh my hair down I'm gonna make it look greasy and like these are what you hear a lot of people Saying and they don't it's I think it comes down to more than anything just not being educated by your stylists in the past Which you see more of that than anything else So the first one like I said hair oils are too heavy We've all heard that right. What's the one thing you can tell your client your guest to help with that? Stop using Moroccan oil. Yeah. Yeah I'm kidding. I like Moroccan oil. Please don't start a fight I'm products with Camilla oil actually absorb faster in the hair. I was reading which is kind of cool Okay, you can usually look on most lists of their ingredients and see what it has Hair oil will make your hair look greasy again Just the amount most people like shampoo. They usually don't know how to shampoo properly prior to come again They're done like a pea-sized amount should be good. What else? Shouldn't use oil on second-day hair have we ever heard that before that makes sense But would you know I would went for what let's to smooth down frizz like I show a lot of my guests when they come in I'll take a super small amount like again a pea-sized But I tell them to apply through their hands like hand sanitizer almost so it's on the top on the front between their fingers and Just lightly go through to work frizz out. Okay, and shouldn't be putting oil on the scalp anyway Oh, yeah, not on the scalp any tail down. Yeah, you're working to get a lot of the frizz out a lot of those You know fly away. So that's something I like to tell my guests to do first off If they have second-day hair that's frizzy, they should not have they didn't do it a good enough blow-dry. Oh, no All right, um oil should be applied to wet hair. I don't know I think that is proper for the most part because you're you know, especially when you're trying to tell them how to use it You want damn I wouldn't say wet Yeah, no, and all oils are the same that's BS Yeah, but I think it comes down to when it comes to oils just education Do we all agree on that agreed agreed now? This is the one cool one you're talking about earlier five ways for fair prepare for a salon interview. Yeah, oh Number one, what do we think it is? Anybody anybody five ways to do it or be older prepare for a salon interview number one How would you prepare? It's the first thing you would think about doing I got my numbers ready for you I knew you were a numbers gang. Yeah, I guess I did my research on you first And I had to put my best foot forward. Wow. I want to say that's that's number one research this day in age Oh, yeah, yeah research is number one visit the website any time you do anything in business You need to know a lot about the company first like any phone call I make to a company I learn about their new products or something I I come up with a conversation that I can have with them because otherwise just like an uncomfortable thing So you call them and say I would love to Maybe talk about this or I'd love to do this or I heard that you guys are doing this I think it's cool, you know like that kind of thing. It'll lead you into a conversation. So that's a really good I like that too. You visit You check out their social media See what product line they use like the key demographics are working with because a lot of people go into salons They don't realize that I want to do fun pink and purple hair like God Tang puts up all time But we're doing mullets and perms all day long at this salon Why am I right here? You know, right? It's a lot of websites for salons even their Facebook pages silly stuff like that They have you can get so much information just from looking at what they post and what they say and Like that you can know right off the bat what they're trying to sell them self as so you can see what you want to sell yourself as Number two. What else is pretty important guys? Come on. I just say making sure the end of a well-rounded and Well assembled resume like make sure that you have stuff that's pertinent to the industry make sure you have stuff That's going to be important to that salon owner. I sort of agree that that but honestly, I didn't have a resume I didn't either. I walk down like here's my YouTube or here's my Instagram Speaking as a salon owner. I don't look at anybody's resume. I We look at them as a person. I mean I'll glance through it, but this isn't really like Like a normal job where you need like a bachelor's degree in this or whatever Like show your training and stuff that you've done in the past I was gonna say I think the listing of Trainings as opposed to not having a lengthy listing does show that someone is into education to put the time and money For that is something that we do look at in a resume number three was experience With a port not necessarily yeah, um, you're so loud tonight. Oh, sorry Well, no, I mean not necessarily No, we look at the I Like say the classes or any their education because of experience because I Don't think that that for me I don't need someone that's been behind the chair to work at this like say for our salon That's been there behind the chair for like ten years. I would take someone just as well out of school You know, yeah, right? Yeah, one of them says here is experience is similar to what you said You have to have 12 years of doing hair It's show them what you're experienced at doing If you're experienced at doing a balayage and you love doing that type of free-flowing colors and stuff like that Don't go in there and if they tell you oh show us what you can do Do an a-line Bob when you're terrified to do haircuts, you know, so that's that's really important always think it out Dedication is I think before experience. You know what I'd rather see somebody send Rather than a resume because we'll get them through the email. I don't I don't even really look at them I'm just saying I do I don't I don't look at them because what am I getting? If you sent me your Instagram or something that you that shows your work Because we talk about portfolio. I mean you could print out pictures and bring them in But I think if you pre send all this stuff, then you go to the salon so that when you walk in somebody knows Who you are but people can learn people can learn like say I'm looking at someone's Instagram and I'm like, oh, wow They're they don't yeah, but you're not just looking at hair. You're looking at this is what I'm going to go into Stylists do put up just there a lot of their hair Well, of course, but at the same time I want to go to the next one is positivity because we've had people come in here And I've even see them interact even like a guest of mine I've seen people and try to talk about trying to work here and I've seen people go completely opposites of this It's positivity. They don't show themselves as being a positive stylist. I want to learn. I want to do this with people I want to do this. I want to grow they say I've had these horrible experience.  Yeah I mean, I think we could go on this forever because it's you look at, you know, Justin and the girl I know who you're talking about so But yeah, it was very negative. It was I don't like this.  Well, so that's the kind of stuff You need to think about but you know and the other two I'm gonna briefly go over as a peril Don't I mean dress for success like even when I came in for my my interview when I was supposed to meet for Christina And she never came He was dressed up. I had dressed nice and I knew what they were here. I knew everybody's kind of like a relaxed environment I didn't wear camo shorts. I didn't have tiki shorts on. No, I think I had fans though. You had a sweater I had a sweater. I looked fancy as hell. Yeah, you guys missed it. He was dressed up I'm right. I was and that was the last of it No, I wore I had a tie and a tweed vest on Okay, guys, that is true What's the last one and then we'll get into the last one so actually before we do the last one because there's a delay 844 fse live, we're gonna spin the wheel So whoever wants to call in right now You can spin the wheel and we'll play the free pong now just a time limit now. I have time Let and then we have also an interview with your Brothers at the very end of the show so go rehearse. I'm just prepared for questions I could ask you, you know, the no matter how comfortable you feel doing something unless you rehearse it It's like doing a haircut You're not gonna show up and like I said do a full balayage and something unless you practice before you could still get nervous You could still ruin something so try to prepare for what they may ask you hold yourself properly like Yeah, good luck to all the you know Up-and-coming stylists who watch try to sleep with your new boss right on try to sleep. I mean it Matt Matt didn't take fondly to that but you know I tried but Christina did That's how you got your job, right? I did not show up The viewers just went up, I don't know what happened All right, somebody's calling in ready. All right Hello Who's this? Hey, Melissa, this is Matt from freesalon education and the crew Brian Hi So we're gonna spin the wheel. How's that sound? Oh, that's awesome. All right, cool. So where are you from, Melissa G? Indiana Indiana nice. Okay. Are you on the east side or west side? We are not dead in the middle. How Is that like she said a real hour south of Fort Wayne. Oh, I was there like a month ago. I'm just curious So funny, okay, so funny.   Oh, that's awesome. That's so cool. Well, you're halfway to winning a coin We're very happy that you called in you have a chance to win three different prizes tonight So something from either Minerva beauty comm millennium systems international We have bolly boxes. We have t-shirts. We have combs. We do we have We do have combs to give away and so do you have us are you a salon owner or stylist? I Have my own studio. Oh, that's awesome. Nice. Very cool. Yeah. All right. So who do you want to throw? I love her voice. Who do you want to throw the balls? Oh So Christina called it before the show even started she said Drea is getting picked tonight.  All right, let's let me do it once. We'll split Drea.  Wait, let me get some Get some music you have to get to Drea so Justin I each get a spin. All right, Drea Step on the ball no Oh Get a little no-ball Drea Drea No balls. All right, you know what? You're like a neutered dog with no balls Let's make this happen Because I feel bad every time this happens Because it's just the way it's supposed to be Supposed to win one thing at least When you take away Drea's Mike she becomes mean Drea throw another one. Let's do this All right, Drea. Don't let her down I Right Drea got a ball in wait guys Drea all right. We um, okay now that was a fake spin. We practice. Yeah, that was a fake All right, so we're gonna give it a really really good spin. Drea Let's see what What do we got? Amiga Amiga All right, so you win what is it on Amica? Amica is gonna love us. That's like the third week in a row Love giving stuff away. Congratulations Could you take us off the wheel please so all we have to do all you have to do is email me Matt at freesaloneducation.com and give me your address Information to Indiana and I will send it to Amica and they'll send you out something cool. Okay, Matt It's not like the Jersey Shore these games aren't rigged. Oh, thank you. Oh, you're welcome. I'm Then thank you for calling. Thanks for calling. Congratulations. All right. Well, we will all right. Thank you She's cute that's fun First time calling in does anyone just feel like a tornado happened Yeah, just a little bit. I think I feel like the tornado just happened for a while. All right So we're gonna sell this up. I felt pretty good about tonight. Yeah, tonight was great. I liked it Andrew crew others. No, I'm just saying right there. It was a lot of stuff Oh, I think it was because of my music and sound effect Anyways, all right guys, we're gonna sum this up follow Brian here Her style On Instagram and then Drea Drea day two to eight nine Justin Follow us after he's on education follow Christina And bad bull nice and that right guys, thank you so much for watching We have an interview that we filmed at ABS Chicago with Andrew Carruthers from he's the Director of Education for Sam via so we have a good conversation about their education program and all that stuff So I hope you guys enjoy this interview. We will see you back next week on Splitting hairs. Hey guys, this is Matt Beck from freestaloneducation.com here with special guest Andrew Carruthers What is it education director Sam via so I'm really pumped to talk to you I've watched a lot of your videos. Obviously Sam was a you know, big inspiration in what we're doing and you know a lot of people are doing in the industry, so You're sitting in here. Let's let's just start off How'd you get hooked up in the Sam via world and just what you're what you're doing and what your job is? Well, I kind of connected with Sam Through funny ways honestly a friend of mine Geneva Cowan who's our artistic director. Okay. She lives in She lives in Anchorage, Alaska And it was actually my wife that kind of introduced us because she had hired my wife to come up and do wardrobe for some photo shoots Okay, so that's what your wife does. Yeah, she does wardrobe. Oh, that's cool. Yeah So in getting to know Geneva Sam was still so busy with Redkin and Sam via as a company separately has grown so fast That they needed some help. Okay in my background's education I worked with Paul Mitchell hair schools for a long time. Okay, and that's kind of my passion outside of that one. That was I've been out of there for like seven or eight years, but it was basically from probably about 2003 through 2007 okay, all right that area cool For Paul Mitchell for ten years, so all right. I like you look familiar, but I didn't know I didn't know how yeah Or what that would probably be it That is it. Okay, so so Geneva, you know came to me and she's like, you know I've you thought about getting back into education being on the road again because I was mainly focused on the salon at that point I was like, yeah, actually perfect timing because I was kind of starting to get tired of just being behind the chair And I was ready for that next adventure. She's like, I think Sam could really use someone like you especially because I'm not part of the Redkin world I was part of a different world and it was nice because it gives us kind of a unique identity Yeah, if you would have brought in another Redkin educator I think it would have been it would have just felt like an extension of Redkin, which I mean we're definitely part of the family exactly Yeah, and But we just met on a photo shoot actually It was my first event and I met him and we just clicked and we we have the same passion and and it's That we teach the people that are really doing hair We're not doing hair to impress another another kind of platform artist. Yeah, we're doing these To really do something for the person that they go to work nine to five to make a living They love their craft, but it's really what they do to make their living Yeah, and I think that's who we really speak to and that's why I wanted to work with them But that's why the growth of what sam via is is happening so quickly. It's the same thing with free salon education it's I Expect to come to a show and have you say, oh, you know, like your videos inspire me so much Like that's not the goal the target person that you're aiming the videos towards is the hairdresser that's working They can't get to education. They can't be inspired and and that's why I I mean I watch I watch all this Mvia stuff. I watch it grow. I I get inspired from it So, um, so now you're part of your you are the education part of it so What what do you think when you're doing the videos now? Is it a video a strong video focus like are you pumping out videos quite often or how do you guys do that? So our program right now and and we're we're kind of adjusting it a little bit We're about to release some new some kind of the next level to it So up until now really the education has been about five to ten minute quick clips Here's a common challenge and and then here's a common Now we're actually trying to expand past that So if you just need a touch if you just need a little tidbit of Some inspiration or you need a quick tip Now what we want to do is we want to build on it and have available full-length education more so Okay So our last collection we did we did a five haircut collection that's very specifically gauged on being an educational collection Yeah, so it's not about you know over the top crazy hair Your client actually is going to look at this picture and be like I'd like that haircut.  We have the head sheets. We have the breakdowns and that will be a like a pay-per-view channel But we're still keeping it incredibly affordable so that even though you're getting full-length education It's going to be very very accessible to everyone Oh, that's awesome And that's kind of that next level and when you look at pay-per-view I mean there there is a certain point when like when we'll do like an academy or some kind of classroom or something And they're like, but it's free salon education.  Yeah, where you guys where do you guys do all this stuff that? Well, where are you located? Well, this is the funny thing is because we're so spread out You know, I'm in Salt Lake City, Sam's down in Jacksonville, Florida. Geneva's up in Anchorage, Alaska A lot of the the hot tip video stuff we do in Salt Lake City. We've got a studio there We've got a killer crew of guys that work with us there Our big event video stuff like when we do live stream We have a studio in Phoenix that is like a true Studio video studio and they have the ability to do that really high definition live stream event But photo work we primarily do in Anchorage, Alaska now Okay Why not right? We're all over the place. Yeah, okay. So um, so tell me like uh When you're so you're I see you in the videos a lot now. Yeah, so is that kind of your thing that you're starting to Well focus on Yes, definitely. I mean it's a it's a big part of my focus as education director is to continue that that happening um really Where we do try and get Sam in there as often as possible, but if I showed you Sam's schedule, it's Unbelievable, I mean this guy is everywhere all the time Um, so we try and get him in there as much as possible And it's funny like we even get comments like well, I like this guy Andrew, but we're Sam and I'm like, oh man I know it'll ruin your day But no, I mean we we've been trying to to make sure there's a Of it, right? We also have David Boyd who's one of our newer art team members. Okay He's an incredible especially barber. His men's hairdressing is really phenomenal So you're gonna see a lot more men's content coming from us too Okay through David and you know, I have a real passion for men's hair as well So you're gonna additionally start to see more men's content coming out of us But you'll start to see David on those videos. We're trying to get Geneva on the videos Neva you got to get on the video No, I was talking to her through the camera here You know she's but So we're trying to get up more diversity Okay, and uh, you know to be honest one of the comments We've been getting too and I'd love to just kind of put this out there Is that we do listen to people's comments because we've been hearing Hey, why don't you guys have a female presence there? And you know, I really want you guys to all know that It's never been an intentional thing that has been a primarily male focused team so far And we really are you know currently pursuing like we we really want to have a great mentor in place for the female Uh, the female part of our audience where they can be like, I want to be like her Yeah, you know, and so just know that it's never been an intentional thing And we and we do want that presence, but we do want a lot of we want a wide Uh, a wide berth of presence in that so that if they don't really connect with me They maybe they don't even connect with sam they might connect with david they might connect with geneva or whoever our next artist might be Yeah, it's good to it's good to have a team and a variety of of people that was uh, when I first started the website We uh, we got our entire salon So just each person whatever they're good at to start making these videos and and you'll have some people to connect with One person and and you know others to connect with what i'm doing. So do you have um, the Who was working at the ibs show? A couple weeks ago. That was david void. That was yep. He i'm gonna tell you right now. I watched him Uh mc mainstage I came off mainstage because you guys were right there. Yeah, he was working The entire day. I didn't see him leave once like just haircut all day long I've never seen one person and stay on stage that long. It was really cool. So he worked for his money that day Exactly. Yeah, he earned it. But I love I love just I love seeing your booth because you guys it's just so focused and so intimate And it's it's all about educating and it's really cool to see what you guys are doing. Uh, what's next for Uh, what do you guys like?  And what's your main focus right now? So we you know, like I said, we are going to release this pay-per-view concept and it's based off of we're calling it the The modern heritage collection. Okay, because as we develop We realized that so much of our influence comes from the heritage of how we grew up and where we grew up And even the time period, right? So you'll see elements of like kind of 70s and 80s influence because that's where a lot of us are stemming from right? Okay But then we make it modern and educational So that's a lot of what we've been doing on the booth educationally this week Is kind of talking about those specific haircuts from the modern heritage collection Okay, but also some of it comes from even what happened because we do have people come up like, hey Would you give me a haircut? It's like, yeah, cool, right?  It wasn't an opportunity to put one of those collection haircuts on her, right? We just did a really simple foundational curly Class that's cool. How do you approach curly hair? What are the challenges? How do you manipulate it?  It was awesome. Yeah Great response. There's something about this industry now and like what what you're seeing with people, you know You guys are working with redkin as part of the family and everything but it's not I love that this industry is moved into it doesn't have to be the sole focus People know where you come from. They know what you support But it doesn't have to be the focus of why you're up there And uh, it's that's one of the things I look up to with sam and what you guys are doing is because You know, he's working with people, but he's not Just working with them like he has his own thing and you guys are Like crazy. So I just really appreciate what you guys are doing and I love that we got to talk and you know connect and I'm hoping to Do that more in the future with you guys And I know from uh from sam, you know, definitely thank you for having us But also thank you for being another avenue for you know, what we're trying to push which is let's make education accessible Yeah, like this doesn't need to be a $3,000 investment every time you want to learn something new So, you know, congratulations to you guys for producing and and I I actually have watched your videos And I do enjoy them very much just so you know, I appreciate that. Yeah, well very cool So is there anything you want to plug? How do they follow you follow all of you guys? You know, best thing for us. We've really built everything through social media So our social media outlets instagram and facebook. Um, just look up sam via professional That's the best way to kind of follow us and uh, you'll you'll find just So much information and actually if you go to samvia.com and click on their professional site We post all of our blog posts. We do a lot of information just even through the blogs the samvia website has it's a plethora Of information. I mean, it's a lot. You can get lost in there. So that's very cool. And how do they follow you? Uh, if you want to follow me just look andrew dot corothers for uh, instagram That's mainly where I play most. Yeah, I think most people are pretty much hanging out there I I Paddle around in facebook once in a while too and you can just find me there at andrew corothers. All right, cool Well, andrew thank you so much guys. Thank you to millennium systems international for letting us use their booth here at abs chicago And uh, that's pretty much it. Make sure you subscribe to us and sam via and we'll see you guys on the next video. 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Welcome back to the Bet MGM Studio as Titans All Access continues. This is Titans Radio's Dave McGinnis here to talk about the next Titans opponent, the Indianapolis Colts. They will see another quarterback and it is rookie Anthony Richardson out of the University of Florida, all six four, 244 pounds of him. Dave McGinnis, as you wrote him up prior to the draft, how did you see him as a prospect? The generational athlete.  And so the way that he has been handled, I think it's been very, very good there at Indy. They're giving him things that he can do that he's comfortable with. But his athletic ability is off the charts. It is off the charts.  This is a whoa guy. Let's go beneath the surface right now, powered by Microsoft and take a look at some of these plays from Anthony Richardson so far this season. Coach, show us number five. This is 11 personnel, but they like to do this a lot. You see these guys up here, they are going to stack these guys up here. These two guys are stacked. They've got a lot of scheduled and unscheduled runs for this quarterback. Both of them draw different problems for your defense. With a scheduled run, you're going to have to play a plus one, Mike. And when I say a plus one, somebody from this area right here, either this guy or this guy has got to get involved in the run game. Here is the quarterback.  They're going to bring this guy across here to block the edge in what we call a crunch look, a crunch block. Bring a tight end across behind the line of scrimmage to be an extra blocker on this side. Let's take a look at it. Motion. Here's the crunch look. They do not have the plus one. The plus one clearly was too deep, right? Let's just see the setup here. This is a nine technique. This is a three technique right here. That's Aaron Donald. So let's take a look at it. And again, they get motion to draw the eyes this way. And then they're going to bring the crunch block. This is the crunch blocker. He's going to come across over here and be the lead blocker as they start to move outside. Let's take a look at it now. Understanding what goes on. He was never really going to give Moss the ball, was he? No. This was his run all the way. This is the desired run. And this is how they're using him, Mike. This is a scheduled run all the way. Averaging six yards of carry so far for touchdown runs. Let's take a look at another Richardson play if you don't mind, coach. I'd like for people to get a sense of the different things that he is able to do. They've got four up front. They're going to bring an extra adder. Let's just take it right here to the launch point. I would think that cylinder is collapsed, wouldn't you? I would say that's collapsed. Okay, now this is not the proper footwork right here. Look where his feet are. Look at his, look at his feet right here. His feet are parallel. You wouldn't think there's any way, especially with these people collapsing.  They're on top of it. He's six four plus. He's standing back there. Look at where his arm is. Now let's watch the throw. Watch the throw. Unbelievable. There's the catch. And how long is that throw down field, Mike? 40 yards. Thank you very much. You can count. I can't. Okay, but this is the problem. This is the problem this guy presents. Not only in the scheduled run off scheduled run, you're going to have to plaster coverage, which means zone has to turn into man in the back end. And then this right here, he's never out of it. He never got his arm quarter of the way through. That's the problem this quarterback presents. He's a playmaker more than a quarterback at this point in time. He's an athlete. That's a playmaker more than a quarterback at this time.