proudly we hail and now another proudly we hail one of radio's outstanding dramatic half-hours starring Lee Tracy and presented transcribed by your army and your Air Force from Radio City New York here is your star and host on proudly we hail the distinguished Broadway stage screen and radio star Lee Tracy thank you Kenneth Bang Hart and hello everyone welcome again to proudly we hail I believe this program is going to be one of our finest a combination of a tender moving story together with some truly beautiful music we'll begin our play in just a moment after a word from Ken Bang Hart the United States Army and the United States Air Force urgently need young men and young women if you volunteer right away you'll have the choice of many jobs now open get full details at your nearest U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force recruiting station be a volunteer serve yourself and your country now and now Lee our play and this story appealed to me the moment I first read the script it's a story of a beautiful girl who creates beautiful music and she well and let's begin with our star Lee Tracy in the role of David your army and your Air Force present the proudly we hail production of concerto if you were to drive along the mountain road heading east on the new superhighway you'd come around a wide swinging curve and there above you tucked into the pine thatched brow of a long sloping hill you'd see the house here the wind moves through fur and hemlock they bother heads and whisper at your approach behind the hill the mountain towers in above it thunderheads mutter ominously the man who built this place made it a part of the scenery not an intruder on flowers and shrubs border its sides morning glories and rambler roses grow and profusion along its walls a single glass window accounts for nearly half the length of the house and from behind that window comes the sound of a piano someone is playing music beautiful and haunting who lives here let us enter and find out Francesca yes dad I'm sorry to interrupt your work but are you sure you'll be all right without me of course I'll be all right anything you'd like me to get you you can check and see if those books I ordered have come what books I thought my library could stand some additions I've just about worn the pages off of some of those things well I'll check and see if they've arrived goodbye dr. Stewart have a good time I'm on my way Katie don't you worry none no I'll try not to look for Katie tears me very own sweet self that's here it sounds like a big storm coming up I can feel it in the air you can indeed we're going to get it all right will you see that all the windows are closed Katie that I will and aren't you thinking this time you were taking yourself a bit of a rest working that hard all the afternoon oh have I been Katie funny how quickly time goes when we're busy let's say what the radio has to offer I'll turn it on would you like to hear something in particular no I'll settle for anything we'll be brought up for a vote first thing tomorrow here's more on the prison break the bulletin just in says the two men made their getaway in a stolen car police have set up roadblocks throughout the area and a vast motorist to be on look out for license now is safe until men both serving life terms shot and kill the guard turn it off Katie it's too much static and nothing very pleasant to hear anyway I heard all about it earlier couple of Divils they must be and you know that prison is just over the other side of this valley only 20 miles away well don't worry about it the police will catch them before they get far they'd better I don't like murderers running around don't worry Katie I'll protect you maybe Mr. Stockton that manager fella I know a good way to find out you stay right there I'll answer it there are you applauding or booing don't say well how do you like this you reserve judgment well that's kind of you going to do what a terrible thing my poor sister Nellie she get a hold of yourself now what's the trouble what happened to Nellie she she and Jack they've been in an automobile accident Nellie is in the hospital hurt oh Katie what hospital is it midland that was Jack he's all banged up too what can I do first sit down and try to calm down well then you better take the station wagon and drive to Midland and you'd better plan to spend the night there Jack won't be much help and you'll have to take care of their children and leave you here all alone why not I'm quite capable of taking care of myself and dad will be here later I just couldn't be doing this to you the storms coming in well suppose nothing do you think I mind a storm or being alone now you can leave me some supper on a train I'll sit right here and work no no I'll not believe you listen Katie that's very kind and very loyal of you but this is an emergency and you do a lot more good taking care of Jack and the children I'm not an invalid or a baby now you better hurry and leave before the storm breaks what would your father still understand perfectly you're wasting time Katie fix me something light and then get started terrible choice I have my sister I suppose you're right yes you're a dear girl sure and I wouldn't be wanting to be left alone with a thunder cracking in the wind howling through the trees who's there I said who's there no need for alarm who are you what do you want question one let's just say I'm a lonely wayfarer a long way from home question two I want to get out of the storm why do you stand over there because it's dark over here this way you won't be so frightened I'm not frightened and what does the dark have to do with it most people who see my face can't bear a second look unless they can't believe the first what's the matter with your face let's just say it's the kind of a mess and let it go at that difference does that mean a person can't help how he looks you're so understanding and a person can't help how other people react to the way he looks since you decided to stay until the storm is over you might as well sit down you're very very kind are you here all alone yes would you mind checking and seeing if the windows are all shut do you mind if I make an observation I'm sure you'd make it whether I mind it or not you're right you're a very pretty and a very lazy woman such flattery that's quite a storm quite a view to look at the way the lightning snakes across the valley I'm surprised you don't insist upon having all the lights on aren't you afraid of being in the dark with a strange man sometimes I'm afraid of being in the dark but I'm not afraid of you or any man bravo if you're not afraid of me why do you keep looking over there to the chair it couldn't be that if you saw me clearly you or did did you see my face in a lightning flag no I I haven't seen your face I just thought you were sitting over there look it's not that dark in here from here it's dark every what do you mean you're not very observing are you haven't you noticed I'm blind you can't see at all not with my eyes well how is it you're all alone you can't live here all by yourself no there's my father and Katie our housekeeper dad had to go out and Katie sister was in an automobile accident so I let her go home doesn't it bother you to be alone why should it who would want to harm me besides I'm not really what what do you mean who's here beside us now it's you who are frightened I meant I have this I have my books and the radio what's that you're playing I can share it oh I'm trying to compose well how you how how can you do that one when you can't see my fingers aren't blind no my ears no my mind have you always been blind for the last 10 years no chance to see again none must be tough you mind if I turn on the radio get nothing but static I tried it earlier it didn't happen to hear any news did you only about the two men who escaped from prison what about the two men who escaped from prison nothing I couldn't hear very much of it you don't say what did you say your name was I didn't say but you can call me David the Tracy starring as David in the proudly we hail production of concerto will return for the second act in just a moment but first I have a message for the real red-blooded young men in our audience as a paratrooper in the United States Army you will have an exciting career that you'll be proud of 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could you'd be yelling bloody murder I don't doubt that your face I believe you said it was what's the matter with it exactly oh it was a pretty good face once these people didn't go under their beds when I came around then one day it made the mistake getting in the way of a dynamite blast one of those things that wasn't supposed to go off but it did when the smoke cleared away I didn't look very pretty heard of plastic surgery you heard of money you mean the people you were working for wouldn't it happen in South America company took care of all the doctor bills but there wasn't anyone around who knew how to put a face back together let me feel your face what do you mean I want to see for myself I can see with my fingers you can go to the devil yours is a tale that grips my heart mr. Adams I think you said it was tell me what kind of work were you doing when this terrible thing happened to you I was building a bridge you miss what's your name anyway we haven't been formally introduced have forgive me most of my guests usually know who I am before they come to call we've always felt it was a good basis to start on my name is Francesca Stewart Francesca huh sounds like your music I think it's a beautiful name you are a very noble man and you Francesca are a very sarcastic young lady and you mr.  Adams I think we've got everything sure and you know Katie old girl you're after being the apple of me I go on with you now any man who'd risk his own neck for my Francesca and help catch a murderer and devil sure and you've got a friend in Katie O'Hara you know when you said your name was David the poor child just glad that that I am to be having your friendship me lovely Colleen and remember not every David in the world is serving time and prison are you sure your name is Adams it wouldn't be O'Leary now oh Adams Katie yeah oh Adam tell that doctor in New York when he gives you a new face to put a touch of Irish haha I'll do that Katie it's better be getting back to my kitchen goodbye Katie and thanks for everything and not go with you come back soon real soon hello there you David you're going now yeah what will you do when it's all over I mean once you're out of the hospital get a job building bridges maybe who knows I'll know better afterward be in New York for a concert sometime in the fall would you invite me to come and visit you if you're still in the hospital no Francesca no do you remember when I told you if I had a life to offer you're the kind of a woman I'd offer it to yes of course and wait till that time comes I don't know how long it'll be but one day I'll come back here and we'll talk about it then if that's the way you wanted David yeah that's the only way it can be all right and now I've got to go David would would you kiss some of the loneliness for my lips before you go Jessica I'll be waiting here for you sure I speak for our audience when I congratulate you on a great performance Ken it's nothing but a pleasure to play a role it appeals to you like David did to me he's one character I won't forget for a long time we won't either Lee and I know you'll join us in our thanks to our maestro John Guarnere for his inspiring concerto composed especially for this program Lee Tracy will be back with a word about next week's program in just a moment after this message young men and young women throughout America can be of real service to their country serving in the United States Army by enlisting now they have a choice of several branches of service if a young man volunteers for infantry he'll receive expert training in many fields he'll learn about motor mechanics intelligence communications and all about modern weapons for the tops in service he has the opportunity now to become a paratrooper find out all about the infantry and other branches of the Army at your nearest U.S. Army and U.S. Air Force Recruiting Station volunteer today this has been another program on proudly we hail presented in cooperation with the station by your army and your Air Force proudly we hail stars Lee Tracy supporting Mr. Tracy in the cast where Helen Christian, Joseph Santis, Miriam Wolfe, Jack Jason and Bill Lipton concerto was written by DeWitt Cup the music was composed and conducted by John Guarnere proudly we hail is directed by Charles Wilkes this is Kenneth Banghart speaking and here again is your host and star Lee Tracy we look forward to your being with us next week for another proudly we hail program it's entitled sins of the fathers it's a gripping story about one of the major social problems of today the problem of what to do about sons of criminals I'm sure you'll like it goodbye


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Now let's introduce constant acceleration in two dimensions. When we had one dimension constant acceleration, we had a couple equations that we were able to derive from calculus. We had three additional equations down here that we were able to derive using the definition of constant acceleration in terms of the velocity average, as well as a couple that came just from algebra. In total, between all these equations, we had five variables, the change in position, initial final velocity, acceleration, and time. And because we were only working in one dimension, that change in position was something like delta x. If it was a vertical motion, this would be delta y. But in either case, our velocities and our accelerations were limited to whichever dimension it was we talked about here, either horizontal or vertical. When I have two dimensions, my equations that come from calculus become vector equations. So it's still my change in position, but now it's the vector change in position. And I still have my initial velocity, but it's my vector initial velocity. So I still have five variables, but four of those variables are now vectors. Remember, time isn't a vector, it doesn't have a direction, it's just how much time has passed. Because these are vector quantities, I'm doing things like vector addition and multiplying a vector by a scalar. And the math on vector equations wasn't just as simple as adding the two numbers, direction mattered very, very much. You remember, though, that when we did vector math, if we could get our vectors into component forms, it made the math a lot easier. One of the things that we saw if we had components was if I have two vectors that are supposed to be equal, the components are also equal. So for example, if a and b vectors were both equal to each other, then their components had to be equal to each other. The x components and the y components each had to balance out so that the a and b components were exactly the same. Well, if I apply that type of concept to one of my vector math equations here, what I see is that the components in x on this side has to be balanced out by the x components on this side. So that works out that I can express the horizontal aspect of this equation in terms of the horizontal displacement, horizontal initial velocity, and horizontal acceleration. Similarly, I have the equation for the vertical direction with delta y, vy, i, and ay. If I apply this principle to all five of my equations for constant acceleration, I get one set of five equations for the x and a similar sort of equations for the y components. So I now have 10 equations that I'm working with. Similarly, if I want to use the strategy of listing all my variables and keeping track of them, I now have two lists, one list for the x and one list for the y side. And remember that time isn't a variable, so there's no x component of the time and y component of the time. Time connects these two sides together. So when I'm solving them, I have a rule of three plus. I still have the fact that if I have three known values on one side, either the x side or on the y side, that I can solve for the unknowns on that side. But I also have that once I know the time on either side, I automatically use the same value for time on the other side. So that's going to help me solve some of these problems as well. Remember that vectors don't have to be given in component form. They're often given to you in polar form. For example, if you've got an initial speed, that's really the magnitude of your initial velocity. So if I have an initial speed of 25 meters per second, that's my magnitude. And if it's tugged that that's at an angle of 30 degrees above horizontal, that covers my direction. Well, then I could use trig to find the individual components, vix and viy, using my normal trig rules. And you might want to go back and recalculate these to check for yourself to make sure it's working the way you think it is. In total, that's our introduction to constant acceleration in two dimension, just like what we were doing in one dimension, except for now I do it for x and for y at the same time with time connecting the two sides


Good day fellow investors. Now, Seth Klarman is too much of a nice guy to make public rents. However, in 1991 he wrote his book, Margin of Safety, and today we're going to discuss a very, very interesting chapter where he discusses the institutional investing environment. So we're going to discuss institutional investors, the self-imposed rules institutional investors have, not eating their own cooking, following the crowd mentality, lack of time portfolio size, and index investing, all according to Seth Klarman. Even if the book was written in 1991, the wisdom in that book is eternal. We all talk about Wall Street, institutional investors, big banks, financials, this and that. However, the trend, the Wall Street, has been growing, has been created only after the 1950s going into the 1960s. Stock market has been created in 1602 in Amsterdam. And since then, up to the 1960s, most of the stocks, practically everything, was owned by private investors, private families, private people and so on. Only since the 1960s have we seen this institutionalization of the stock market and of investing, where most people have given up their financial responsibility to other people. And those other people don't have their interests in line with the investor interest. Remember that institutional investing is very, very new in the financial world. Now, second topic from Seth Klarman is that self-imposed rules are terrible when investing. Let me quote Larry Fink. I will constantly add contemporary examples to explain better the eternal wisdom Seth Klarman has shared. Larry Fink, the CEO of the largest passive money manager in the world, BlackRock, said this. So we have to own companies that are poorly run and companies that are well run. We own all the companies and we have to own the stock, whether we like it or not. And this is precise what passive investing means. Index investing, you invest in everything no matter the quality of it. And that is good until there is more and more and more money and index investing has been developed since the 1980s and it exploded in the last 20-40 years. Why? Because interest rates went down and created more and more money that pushed index investing and stock prices up. If we see 10-15 years of stock prices going down, like we have seen lost decades in the past, even lost three decades in the past, then index investing, the trend, the Fed, as Seth Klarman calls it and I agree, will disappear into oblivion. And we might even be calling this bubble the 45-year bubble, the index passive investing bubble. Let me show you an example. Under Armour is one of the worst performing stocks this year, part of the S&P 500. And if we look at the ownership structure of Under Armour, look at the purchases in the last quarter. Vanguard, the largest index fund in the world, has added to its position. BlackRock has also added to its position. So even if the market capitalization hugely dropped, those stocks would be supposed to sell. But they have been adding, adding and adding because they have more money inflows and they simply have to buy everything. They have been buying a lot when the stock price has been high and they continue to buy when the stock price is low. If those index funds, if those financial institutions are forced to sell those stocks or any other stock, we will see the S&P 500 into triple digits pretty pretty soon. Now global fund managers don't eat their own cooking. 99% of my stock market value is in my investment fund. So my interests are completely aligned with the interests of my clients. However, the situation isn't such in the rest of the world. According to a Morningstar research paper, 47% of US stock funds report no manager ownership. 61% of foreign stock funds have no ownership and 71% of balanced funds have absolutely no manager ownership. Now the 47% US fund ownership might mean a lot, but even if a manager only gets one dollar into the fund, then the fund has internal ownership. The question is how much of their value is in the funds they manage. Very very little. Ray Dalio has his own value in his funds. Warren Buffett has his own value in his funds. Seth Claremont, George Soros. So if you can invest with those guys, invest with those guys because your interests are aligned with their interests. And that's the only way to invest in the long term. If not, Wall Street will screw you up as it has done always to everybody in order to get the fees. Be aware of that. Claremont gives a great quote in his book From John Silver. In the building practices of ancient Rome, when scaffolding was removed from a completed Roman arch, the Roman engineer stood beneath. If the arch came crashing down, he was the first to know. Thus his concern for the quality of the arch was intensely personal and it is not surprising that so many Roman arches have survived. What is Yellen doing? She said, I am resigning, I am 71 years old. Who cares? If whatever I did in the past years is wrong, who cares? Very very interesting how this current financial environment works. Another topic from Claremont, everybody is following the crowd mentality because if you are invested in the market and something bad happens, you just did what everybody else did. And then nobody can tell you anything. If you are a contrarian and you say, let's do this, let's do this, let's do this, because it's the smartest thing to do. If it doesn't work in the next six months, in the next year, your clients will pull their funds away from you and you are out of the job. So therefore everybody must follow the trend. In the short term it might work, in the long term it doesn't work because what everybody is doing is usually the wrong thing to do in the longer term in investing. And usually investors that follow the crowd lose money because they do things wrongly. When did you start investing? Did you start in 2009, in 2002 or did you start in the last few years? That's very very important. Now Claremont also mentions lack of time, managers are now mostly on roadshows promoting their funds instead of doing research. That's very important and then there is also the portfolio size issue. BlackRock cannot trade because they have 5 billion under management. Therefore they have to own everything and the bigger they get, the bigger the market gets distorted and the bigger are the issues. When the trend reverts, all hell could break loose. When the Fed reverts, as Claremont would say. Claremont concludes the chapter with his view on indexing because he says it's inherently flawed. Because one, if there is plenty of liquidity stocks go up, if the liquidity dries up, there is nobody to sell, nobody will buy those stocks. So crashes are imminent and we have seen already two crashes of 50% in the last 70 years. Exactly what Claremont was predicting in 1991. Consequently, the indexing trend is self-reinforcing and self-predicting. The more people invest in indexes, the less people think and the stock market goes up and up. If you are not convinced that this is the wrong way to invest, just look at what happened in Japan in 1989-1990. That is a lesson for all of those who think that the SAP500 will go higher, higher and higher and that the evaluations don't matter. Just look at what has been going on in the last eight years. Indexed mutual funds, indexed ETFs have extremely positive inflows, while actively managed mutual funds have negative inflows. And even actively managed funds are turning to index funds because they are losing their clients money and there are not able to survive.  Everybody is crazy about ETFs. However, those who are smart and those who don't follow the market usually outperform. Look at Berkshire Hattieway, simply easily outperformed the SAP500 even despite the indexing and everything because the SAP500 hugely crashes when the trend reverts, which will happen again, soon or not so soon, but it will happen again. And all the paper money over and all the paper gains that have been built up in the last eight years will be erased in just a year.  Thank you for watching, a lot of food forethought from Claremont, looking forward to your comments and I'll see you in the next video.


What's up everybody and welcome to the latest edition of Falcons in focus. I'm Scott bear. That's Tori McElhaney And I'm really excited to make this next introduction. Yes It's gonna be awesome because I get to say for the first time ever Italy because we were recording this on a Wednesday, right? Somebody just found out I can now say to my left Not me pro bowler Chris Lindstrom pro bowler Chris Lindstrom. How does that sound? It's crazy. It doesn't feel real. I Was stunned yesterday when coach told me so it's an incredible honor and just really thankful to To to be lucky enough now we heard through the grapevine that there was actually a specific way that Arthur Smith told you about the Pro Bowl. Is that correct or was someone just pulling our leg? How did he tell you? I'm not sure what you guys know So we were in the middle of our Wednesday practice on a Tuesday and we just finished the first half of Really really practice team reps were broken up into two sections Just finished the first block and I'm like joking around with lead talking about how we're gonna get it like our full speed indie work and Art pulled me aside with him and told us told me I was going to the Pro Bowl So I don't know if that's how you guys found out or there's something circulating the building But I heard that there were some graphics that had been made about Chris Lindstrom Yeah, as a pro bowler. Yeah about Tucker Fisk as a pro bowler. I'm not sure if that made any meetings Yeah, that definitely made the Wednesday meeting Started last year with a ride newsel who was our practice squad offensive lineman has been elevated the roster Yeah, he did an incredible job and still does every single day giving the looks and was was really awesome And so it was kind of it was a joke to him, but then also an appreciation for you know I know we're still joking about it, but it was like hey man like really nice job Thank you for everything you did so February 5th, you're gonna be in Vegas for the week for the Pro Bowl games, which I guess is like You're kind of the first group that has a not game day experience for the Pro Bowl, so but are you looking fun? Are you looking forward to that week? You're gonna bench press for the fans or something? I really hope not don't don't pull my combine bench records probably come in last place of the group But yeah, super excited. I was actually lucky enough last year my brother played in the East West Shrine game So I was in Vegas a couple days before the Pro Bowl and I was kind of telling myself and my family You know would be really nice to be able to to make it one time and Really fortunate enough that I was able to this year. Yeah I mean you were kind of you know joking around about the flag football game and everything But this is this is kind of a big deal because this is voted on by players and coaches and fans And it really shows that maybe you've gained a lot of respect throughout this league Like what does this honor mean to you to get it in a season like this where the offensive line is really doing so well It's an incredible honor And I just wanted to thank all the fans who voted Really that meant that meant a lot to me and I know a lot of people put a lot of time into doing that so thank you but First and foremost like the respect of the guys in my room is is the most important And so like the four guys I get to take the field with and really the guys we have in our room and on offense And the team as a whole is what what's the most and as long as those guys know that I'm giving everything on every snap And I'm trying to be the best I can be that's that's most important, but then to to get that respect or however from from around the league was truly Truly awesome and really means a lot. You know you get you get drafted You know, you always want to set team and personal goals and team goals are always Above personal goals, but to be able to hit one of these personal goals and milestones Really really really meaningful. I mean and that's not the only thing, you know Pro Bowl year But also you are the Falcons nominee for Walter Payton man of the year I mean that in and of itself is that's a huge deal huge deal, and I know Scott has a printed off copy Yeah, that Chris is involved in so many things that I have to actually read it or I'll never or I will never Memorize it also it's highlighted That's important and we're gonna get to all of your work with best buddies in a minute But also he surprised local teachers with a shopping spree. He served meals to families in need through the Ronald McDonald house He brought a food truck to Flyer Branch high school. He Had a Thanksgiving meals for Atlanta's West Side. He cleaned up parks. He went to children's hospitals I'm running out of breath. How do you have time for all of this because every Tuesday is a big Community day for the Falcons and every time you're in the photos out there, and that's your one free day So you give up your one free day essentially every single week to be able to give back Why do you do that for someone whose time is so precious? I wouldn't say that. I mean I went the time precious part We you know we're super fortunate enough and I think a huge aspect of it is one from mr. Blank and the standard that he sets of His impact in the community and what he does for greater Atlanta and really everything that he does and To our community relations team is probably I you know They should get an award for how they are compared to people around the league because the communication The access and it's made pretty clear from the beginning of OTAs You could go talk to any one of the members And so I went with Kenya and I just talked to her about Different things that I wanted to make an impact on and then there's team opportunities that are pretty much available And then there's different things that you know she gets to know you or the you know The community relations team gets to know you they present you with different opportunities, and so it's it really is a great way To spend a Tuesday to break up the routine of the season because the season is such a grind You know what what am I gonna do with that Tuesday? I'm gonna sit at home watch Netflix Whatever the show is at that time So it's just like it's a really nice way to get out of the house to go help make an impact and it was really such a learning experience to I think in Speaking with the different guys of different charities and what they do it really kind of opens your eyes to the different challenges people face and I think that was probably my biggest takeaway from from all of it this year was just How many how many ways guys make an impact and the different ways of so many areas in life Need attention brought to them It's interesting too because aren't you in the middle of like planning a wedding as well on top of you know Everything all everything else that you're doing. I know I'm signing off on a wedding I'm in the I'm in the planning process, but I just give the thumbs up. Oh, that sounds great. Like Yeah, yeah, I can always sense I'm lucky enough. I've been with Maddie for seven years now So I know when I'm supposed to sign off on something and when like my feedback is Actually During my whole like Wedding planning process I got one job one and that was the food which was the best possible one because then I can just try a Bunch of stuff and say that tastes good Please bring in the steak. That was pretty much my only instruction Stacy took care Now speaking of cooking and food Yeah One of the my favorite things that I think you did and it's on that piece of paper But you were you cook dinner for a breast cancer fighter and her family at the dazzling dine event for the Falcons Did you actually cook the meal? Okay? Yeah, so There's probably eight of us each of us had varying levels of skill Yeah, varying levels of what was required of us So we all got and got like a 20-minute lesson beforehand.  Sorry. This is how you cut up the vegetables This is how you cut everything and we're like, oh, okay And like like most things you're like, all right, like we'll take a photo of us cooking and that will be it And so I went learned and I started the vegetables and the rice and our hibachi chef was at our station He's like you're good man like you're good So it was funny though because we did get the one video of I've never done it before and Mary who I was So blessed to be able to spend the night with I was able to toss the cucumber and she was at whatever it was and she was able to catch it So we were one for one we settled that's how we're ending the night But Abdullah Abdullah Anderson and he had to cook the entire meal Wow, he cooked the head the whole thing So he cooked it from the rice to the vegetables to to the protein So I mean shout out to him because he did a really really nice job Now did y'all vote on who had to make the whole meal or did he volunteer for that? No, it was kind of just luck of the draw there You're like it's fine. I won't I won't do he did a much better job than I would have for sure Alright now let's sink into your involvement with with the best buddies organization Give me the origin story about how and why you got involved with them So my agent Brad Blank is on the board of trustees for best buddies. And so when I first got drafted People working with people with intellectual developmental disabilities was something that I always wanted to do or you know had relationships with people and my sister also Was on the autism spectrum and so it was always something I was interested in and so just talking to him and getting Getting know each other through the process of signing him as an agent and then you know just working together He really introduced me to best buddies and it's been something. I was so fortunate that's been brought into my life And then when I came down here to Georgia They were really best buddies was trying to really expand the Southeast region and Georgia in particular because Atlanta is one of the top 10 major cities in the United States and We just really wanted to grow the programs and so there's state offices in a lot of different states around the country Plus there's also international programs. And so one of the things when we first got drafted here Well, when I first got drafted here was to bring attention to fundraising for a state office And so there's there's awesome awesome people here working for best buddies in Georgia who were able to Get the fundraising in the last couple years for a state office. And so now really the mission with it is trying to grow those Facilities so really trying to grow a jobs program and continue to grow different chapters at schools to for more one-on-one peer interaction now this is a quote from Anthony Kennedy Shriver who is the founder and CEO of best buddies and it's it's a quote that I think has stuck with me Since since I saw it but it he Anthony said, you know, if it wasn't for Chris Lindstrom We wouldn't have best buddies, Georgia. When you hear that what does that kind of just make you feel? I don't know if that's true I mean he might say that and I and I love Anthony But the it's the same thing of a team on a football field you see that with these different organizations and really any aspect of life and There's so many people who work so hard to secure the fundraising for years and there's so many like I know Emory has a huge program and I think they partner with us on the ticket programs and There's so many people that put so much effort into it all really all I try and do through the Falcons is bring attention and awareness to best buddies And all the good that it does for everybody And I'm super fortunate for you guys in the Falcons in general to provide that platform To bring awareness to it. So again, I think it really takes everybody So how did you meet Michael your your best buddy? I've seen some videos with him. Yeah, what a like what a charismatic Fun guy. Yeah. Yeah, Michael's the best and so I got to meet him my rookie year I had just broken my foot and so I just I was in a boot. So probably six weeks after surgery Working with who at the time was the Southeast region coordinator worked with her to do a fundraising another fundraising event. It was like a It was one of these tables where you go around and you're trying to bring people to come work for for best buddies And so me and Michael were there and that's when I was first introduced to him And I think some of the footage of when I first met Michael Was used I think in the Walter Peyton like thing and so some of those interviews with Fox and That's when I really first met him and our relationship continued to grow. He's a Huge into music loves classical like 70s rock and loves movies. So He's he's awesome. And so being able to take him on different trips and COVID was challenging for a lot of people with IDD so Hearing what his struggles were and talking with him throughout the pandemic of of the challenges that that everybody was facing at the time but He also he's working at the aquarium. So yeah, so if you want to see him at the aquarium Michael's at the aquarium Don't give him too much stress My guy my guy. Yep. He's working at the aquarium. So Maddie went one time Was going around and she's hung out with Michael and I multiple times and she got to see him He was working the dolphin show So I think normally he works the information desk, but I'm not sure but she saw him at the dolphin show one day Oh, it's awesome. I love it Just so I've seen this this man of the year video that that the Falcons have like put out and you're reading letters From other people and I just watched it recently and some of the quotes that stuck out I think Michael actually said this is that People don't know how nice you are because of how tough you are on the field And then I think Mary said the world is a better place because of this gentle giant and I certainly looked up for my desk And I'm like, I'm not crying you're crying Like the experience I know like you don't do this for individual accolades, right? You do this to bring awareness But to hear the the impact you're having in that direct and profound way that must be such a Such a moment to hear back from these people Yeah, I think one of the most rewarding Aspects of everything is being able to build those relationships with people and so hearing Mary's story and what she's going through and how You know my mom's story kind of there's so much similarity and hearing what her fight and really all those women on the dazzling Dine night And then Michael and really all the different activities I Think the relationships was the biggest thing and you know, it's just you go you do these activities You're in the season to take a moment to pause and reflect and the pause and reflect was brought on by the letters and It was really really touching and Incredibly kind words by by everybody and so it really meant a lot and I was told I was reading a Christmas card Oh, are you so I was told I was reading a Christmas card I came in probably botch had like the worst reading in history SNL level bad and They're like no, it's good. It's good I'm just like okay like usually you guys have a lot higher standards in this but I'm like all right We're good and then they brought the letters out. So I was not I was definitely not expecting it See, there's been a lot of big Surprises really over the last month And how about this for a transition speaking of best buddies?  We're not or maybe a singular grizzly bear Not entirely sure but y'all's relationship is something that I think is so fun to watch and Something that Caleb brought up on the podcast that we had him on I Can't remember if you if it was me or you that asked him if you had gone bear hunting with him And he said no not yet and the question we have for you is why have you not gone? That is a great question that's something I definitely have to do one time in my life And Getting to know Caleb is is the best and one thing if you as fans haven't figured out and I know you guys definitely know Caleb is a hundred percent genuinely himself all the time Unapologetically he is himself and I love him for it and so yeah, he's one of his favorite activities is His hunting and one of the first times I went over I think he just bought his house and I was going over and all of a sudden I just saw this big bear like Skin like mounted thrown over the railing like just hanging there. It's probably still there I was just like all right. I know what I'm gonna get to it Just loved him every day since and he I know he spends the off days or like the bye week. He's gone He's fishing. He's really a true outdoorsman for sure. Yeah, it was fascinating getting to know him on this podcast And it's interesting too because I was actually talking to him this week And this is like one of the only football questions of this podcast because we're really not a football podcast true and so I Was talking to Caleb and I was talking to him about kind of like the mundane Drudgery of being an offensive lineman and how it's the same things over and over and over again And he made the comment. He was like, yeah, he was like, I mean you get to a point where he's like I'll use the example with Chris and I he was like, I almost feel like I know exactly where his eyes are I feel like he knows where my eyes are and it's he's like, I know based on what the backer is doing Where we're moving and where we're going. It's almost like a twin telepathy type of thing Right, do you feel that when you're out on the field with him for sure for sure? And I think the only way you can build that up is through reps and so been incredibly fortunate. I kind of you know When am I a on him on the first year? We've been three years strong really playing every single game together and there's a true Awareness and appreciation for one another of what his strengths are and what mine are And we really talk about it and really work about it and like you said offensive line play is really boring And so like anytime anybody sees anything the media it usually sounds really repetitive from me or Caleb or really any offensive lineman But that's just how offensive line play is and so the fundamentals of it is is so important but Caleb and I really Communicated what that is and we've seen so many different looks that we like you said Kate and Caleb said is that We really know where each other's thought processes is and if we need to make an adjustment It's really quick and we can say that to each other and he knows exactly what I mean and what he means and There's certain times where like I'm gonna go cut somebody and I don't even need to tell him that I'm doing that because he knows that I'm doing that And so there's a really good sense there. He's got a really good sense, too If I'm getting beat versus like I have a block secured so to come help me and I have the same thing with him where You've kind of just seen those pictures over time and really fortunate to be able to play with him So so take me back to the day after the 2019 draft, right?  No, actually. Yeah, so super lucky To I was fortunate to play in the senior bowl And we were on the same senior bowl team and so we actually did a community service event Where something and I was stuck on a bus with Caleb and as you guys know Caleb's a super interesting person No, no, correct, right, so we got sat down with him talked with him for you know Pretty much a whole day doing a doing a some event and really started our relationship that way and then we did a whole week of playing with each other and It's always a fun week and a memorable week and then you know some at the combine You know, it's all alphabetical. So Lindstrom and there might have been somebody between us But it was just me and him. We were in the same combine group. So like we talked to each other most the combine reps Pretty much most a day and you're rooting for each other and then another month goes by before the draft and I Was you know fortunate I got drafted Did the media calls which I thought were audio, but it ended up being a zoom So I was just pacing back and forth Really bad So but by the time I finished those very terrible media calls I was able to go upstairs and to watch like the final five picks of the first round And I was like, oh the Falcons have traded back up in the first round So like oh, I got really excited and then when they drafted Caleb I got really excited on top of that because it was somebody I got to know and got to build a relationship with And then yeah, like you said then Then we just continue to grow right from that day on Wow. So The Lindstrom family you're not the only offensive one. Yeah. No, there's several Your brother Alec is on Dallas practice squad right at IR and then your dad played Yeah, my dad and two uncles played D-line and two and two uncles played being in a football family Like what was that experience growing up around people who understand what you're doing and who have been there before and have been through everything that that you're going through now it was I Super fortunate love my family and The part I'm in terms of the professional setting I really was lucky enough to be in a super loving supportive home But then as just in this career aspect in football I wasn't pressured in the football at all, you know, my older my older brothers seven years older than me He played quarterback and my dad took when he got done playing He played three years in the NFL one in the USFL and then took like 20 years off of football And I said like, you know stepped away did like business and stuff and then my brother was coming through and he's like Alright, well I'll be I'll get into coaching for him. So he coached our high school coached my older brother So I kind of since I was four or five years old. I was always around football and there's always something that I wanted to do Then I started playing in seventh grade my dad was still coaching and he he coach ended up being like 17 years Coached all three of me and my two brothers. Oh my gosh. I love that. That's almost exactly like not to make this about me But my dad was my high school's football coach for like my whole life up until I was in high school And he coached me and my two sisters and softball and my my little sister plays golf and so I Completely get that. Yep. What was it like for you to kind of have your dad as your coach during that time? I have to say again I was really lucky that my dad was was awesome in it and in the sense of he was a really hard coach on the field and held you to a high standard and I was I think because he played he had the awareness of the challenges that it brings to and so there was zero favoritism in it And if anything I was held to a harder standard Yep But then in the same breath when I got home everything was done and like he was just that again And so that was really really cool And I think that environment helped us and one of the funny things though that I think helped like that And it's just knowledge is I was 230 pounds my senior year at high school, so I was even last like 2 15 to 20 My brother was the same way. My brother was only 6 2 6 3 and he's like well if you're gonna play So he's like, you know what if you want to play division one college, which my younger brother definitely did he goes you're snapping like you're playing center because that's your best chance and You know my brother really worked hard and is self-made in a lot of ways But my dad gave was like no you're like you're playing center and so that was one of the cool things and for me He's like no you're not playing defensive end. He's like I was a stiff defensive end Not doing it. You're going to play all line like and that's that's how I got on this path and looking back on it He 100% made the right decision. I would probably not be sitting in this chair if I was playing D-line What were the grocery bills like yes, we've asked Yes, Jake this because he had it he has a similar kind of family setup I could only imagine you went through gallons and gallons of milk I don't know. I don't know how my parents did it, but so I'm one of six So I have my older brother my younger brother Alec and then I have three sisters All of whom are all pretty clumped together in age, so I don't know how my parents did diapers I don't know how I got to that phase. I don't know really how they did any of it But the grocery bill was was crazy. We never went out If we ever went out it was to McDonald's and it was always on the dollar menu. Oh, yeah, you could never go off the dollar menu and so Would always think my uncles were like the coolest people in the world where they were like you can get a big Mac or something I've made it That was the biggest thing we just never went out to eat always kind of stayed home mom would make portions that were like So much larger than she would like take a recipe quadruple it That was dinner. So pasta was like one box. It was at least four and She did that still hosting and so when we went to college whatever there was just extra food because she'd built up 15 tripling recipes In the stands mom was she was she very vocal with you or was was she more like came home and it's like you did a Great job, sweetie. No, no, she was very vocal Very vocal so my My dad and myself and my brothers really kind of a lot of my siblings where go watch everybody like Another thing I'm really I have my family super supportive of everybody. So like I'll go home watch my sister's volleyball They'll come watch my games all that's awesome. But we're like go sit in the corner type people like Quiet like in the back back back corner like where nobody is and that's where we hang out My mom on the other hand would be like friends with every single person in the gym Sit in the middle would scream in yell scream at the refs scream at you know everything and all in a supportive fun way but right she was she was awesome, but She was definitely a much bigger personality than the rest of us So it was it was funny that my dad would come home and just be like, oh My mom's the same way all right, we've hit Tory and I's favorite part of these podcasts. It's a rapid fire. Oh boy high and not very high intensity Section, but I just like to bill it that it is Five questions. Everybody gets the same questions. Yeah, give or take give or take. Yeah, you're ready. I think so Okay, here we go. What is your favorite play of your career? Oh Favorite play of my career So far in the NFL would be when we played the Jets last year We had the touchdown Secure the game and there's a video of Jake and I celebrating the end zone kind of making fun of us Guys on the team did but it was a ton of had a ton of meeting a ton of That was probably my most meaningful play in the NFL. Wow. Well, why did you pick that one? I? Just think of the experience of being able to travel in London I'm not a big traveler But everything we kind of joke about this too in the offensive line room is like not a big traveler But if I'm forced to travel I have a blast So being able to the experience the whole London experience the fans there were awesome and then We were playing in a game. We were doing really well and that like that was the finishing Finishing drive and so I think so far. That's really kind of been the highlight So far. Hopefully to keep expanding that and keep playing in meaningful games Is there a TV show that you love or that you're binging right now? So I always do like one in-season show so Last year was criminal minds. Yes. Yes criminal mind started did the whole entire thing of criminal minds Talking with Marcus I tried to get in the game of thrones But like cuz a camp in the season it's hard It's really really hard because you have to sit down and like really focus where like you get home from work on a Lot of these days You just want like a nice light-hearted like story that you can kind of follow about a serial killer You can just like kind of follow but like if you fall asleep, you didn't really miss much. Yeah, but right now I'm watching bones I'm like redoing every single nice thousands crime show. So by the time I retire, I'll be out of them There you go. I think there's about like a hundred and fifty or two hundred of those episodes So you've got some time to work. I mean, there's a lot of criminal minds episodes and they come back, too Okay, next one. Where is it? What is your favorite place to eat? Oh? fair place to eat Down here I'd have to say bare bones and Buford. Yeah, it's my favorite Love steak so huge steakhouse person.  So I was a medium. Well, I've worked my way down the medium. I'll never be a medium rare person I understand all the medium rare snobs Yep, so I've worked my way down the medium I'm happy there where if it goes medium rare, I'm fine if they you know cook it medium. Well, I'm also happy So, you know kind of a little best of both worlds right there Well, let's go ahead and expand this category just for you because okay Then like what was your favorite meal that at home got quadrupled and everybody had okay? Ah Chicken pot pie. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, and so instead of doing like the true pie Like you couldn't do that because she'd have to make like two or three pies So it'd be like a ton of work.  Yeah, so I feel like we gotta get at after that one Who is the foot or which Falcon do you hang out with the most? Do I hang out with the most?  So no, actually I didn't so they did that. That was super fun. Did you hear about it? Everybody heard about it. They actually it was really cool and the hotel staff were awesome So they brought the salmon back to the hotel and the They filleted and everything for everybody and kind of served as one of the meals So I thought that was a really cool thing But we were able to that day go to the military base Yeah, that's right in Seattle and that was really really fun experience actually fit in the back of a black Hawk helicopters Yeah, it was it was fun and talked with everybody there, but I did miss the fishing trip It looks like a blast though I'm sure our offensive line groups are generally tight because you guys have to do boring things over and over it again And only you guys understand it right right, but this group seems like it I mean you guys play well together on the field seems like you genuinely like each other's company Yeah, that kind of how that position group is I mean like describe what it's like in those meeting rooms Is it rock is it serious? Does it make a fun of each other? Like what's the dynamic there? I think there's a little bit of everything and Super fortunate. I really think we have truly one of the best offensive line rooms You know performance you can say whatever it is and we're not the people who evaluate that but in terms of culture You'd be hard-pressed to find a better room. It has better culture than we do and That's one the testament to the quality of guys that are in there, but then our coach is too of what they've said there but there's a real Like we we don't take it too seriously There's not there's definitely not a negative culture, and I know you guys know lead and yeah for the fans Who don't he's probably the most upbeat positive high-energy people that there is Probably on the planet and so when he's pushing that energy and we have great guys every single day that we know What's expected of us and they go out there and do that and so when you have guys who are just meeting the standard every single day You don't have to worry about that stuff You can have all the other fun like kind of you'd say like luxuries And I guess in the sense of you can have fun in a meeting room But also works like we can have a blast in there for 20 minutes But then when it's time to focus everybody's dialed in really focused And so when you have that super healthy Combination of having fun and having a fun workplace environment But in the same sense of everybody's a professional and really Loves what they're doing and wants to be the best at it and wants to be the best for the team That's when like great things can happen. And so that's why we're super fortunate. Yeah, something about Lead as well. I was talking to him the other day and he He has the loudest voice of someone that I think I've ever met He'd like projects his voice in a way that I don't know if I've ever like I was talking to him And I was literally sitting from me to you from him and he was yelling and I was like Whoa, yeah, but he was yelling nothing, but like positive nothing, but he's so Well, we're gonna wrap up last rapid fire kind of not rapid fire. Yeah question. What is your biggest pet peeve? So this is something this is like the ultimate icebreaker question. I think it's been rotated on every single time Unless something better comes to my head and this is something my fiancee will give me flak for she is a big And lover and this is funny. I just make fun of her. It doesn't even bother me anymore because it's like it's so comical Like I'll order a drink. So like I'll order a coke or something like that And I'm like, do you want anything? No, I'm good water. Take a sip of it before I even take a sip I would have just ordered you on. Wait a minute. Yeah, it's so you wanted the water Yeah, I love her and she'll laugh about this But notorious like can I have a bite of your food? I'm like, sure. Do you want to bite of mine? No, I would have ordered it That is a great way to wrap it up with Chris Lindstrom on the latest episode of Falcons in focus do what y'all do rate review subscribe to the Falcons Podcast network, but even more important than all that Participate in the Walter Peyton Man of the Year charity challenge a social media campaign designed to support and promote Chris Lindstrom You can vote for Chris on Twitter by using the hashtag WPM. Oh why challenge followed by Lindstrom or at C underscore Lindstrom? 63 can't believe I did all that you did well done miracle Chris. Thank you so much for the time really appreciate it We're gonna have another awesome guest next week. See ya


of all the things in the world, of all the things that a human being can do. Why yoga? Everything that human beings can do is essentially an expression of who they are.  Whatever else we do, it's an expression of who you are.  So yoga in that way is diametrically opposite to this because it's not an expression of who you are. It's about determining as to who you are. It's about determining as to what you want to be, changing the very fundamentals of one's existence. Today there is substantial medical and scientific evidence to show that the very fundamentals of the activity of your brain, your chemistry, even your genetic content can be changed by practicing different systems of yoga. There's needed no confirmation because we've always witnessed this. But today there is scientific data to prove this. So this is not an expression of who you are. This is about determining the nature of who you wish to be, changing the fundamental ingredients which has made you who you are. So yoga as a system needs much more involvement than any other things, there are one… any other… other forms of things that we do, which are merely an expression of who we are. If you find full expression through any particular activity, it may also leave you somewhat transformed. If you cook with all your heart, some transformation may happen. Yes, taking care of a cow can change your life, you know. If you sing with all your heart, some transformation may happen. If you dance with all your heart, some transformation may happen. But that is only a certain impact that is happening because of absolute involvement in a particular activity. But essentially that activity by nature is an expression of who you are. It is not determining the nature of who you are. So when we transform our activity, not as an expression of who we are, because who wants to find expression like this in the morning? Definitely not, isn't it? So it is not an expression, it is a method, it is a means, it's a technology through which you can change the shape of who you are, literally also, otherwise also. You can change the very shape of who you really are right now that can be transformed. Because who you are right now as a person is a combination of things. Genetic material, before that the karmic substance that you carry, because of that, you chose a certain womb, so the genetic material. And since the moment you are born, whatever kind of impressions that have gone into you, in the form of variety of experiences, situations, thoughts, emotions, relationships, associations, whatever else you have imbibed, all these things make you a certain kind of person. When you say, I am a certain kind of person, what you are saying is, I have this kind of compulsions. When you say I am this kind of person, what you are saying is, this is the kind of compulsions that I identify myself with. So I am this kind of a person. People, you know, it's a very western thing but it's very much there in India today, because a lot of Indians are far more western than west.  So they are much more western than westerners are today.  So what they mean is, morning, I cannot wake up in the morning. That means I am a evening person. I can't stay awake in the evening. So I am a morning person. Not only that, people, it's going far. You know, some are blackberry people, some are apple people. All getting world is getting divided in so many ways. They are not just instruments that you use and keep it down, it's you get identified with it. So there are chapati people, there are rice people, there are dosa people, there are idli people, you know, all kinds. So what kind you are is essentially a certain type of compulsions.


Hi, we're back. This is Dave Vellante of Wikibon.org. I'm here with Stu Miniman also of Wikibon. This is SiliconANGLE.tv's continuous coverage. We're live at HP Discover. This is day two for us, day three for HP. Yesterday we heard Meg Whitman give the big keynote. Today was Dave Donatelli. We've been covering it end to end. And we're here with Duncan Campbell, who's the Vice President of Global Marketing for Converged Infrastructure. Duncan, old friend. That's right. Good to see you again. Good to see you, likewise. Yeah, we were just sort of connecting when it was we first met. So those are some fun days, auto raid days. Remember that? Oh, man. There we go. Okay, log structured file for a free net app. See what you could have been. At any rate, we're here to talk about Converged Infrastructure, a new role. You've certainly picked a hot area within HP to get into marketing. And there's a lot of wood behind that arrow. It's a major initiative. So how's it going? So really appreciate the time here and really looking forward to having this session. So the good news is it's going great. And there's a tremendous amount of buzz here at the show. I'm really looking forward to sharing some of those best practices, some of those insights. But really, if we just put it in the proper context, turns out that in 2009 is when we first came out with the Converged Infrastructure. But since then, we've gotten a lot deeper in terms of the integration, a lot deeper in terms of how we actually have now the Converged Infrastructure touch, not just the application, but even going forward now with the Converged Cloud, how we can get to information itself. We've actually thought through that it really is relevant not just for traditional type of IT and those type of on-premise solutions, but as well as for private cloud, public cloud, and in fact, more and more for a hybrid type of delivery capability. So overall, we've been really getting out early, leading this trend. The good news is, a lot of other people think so as well. A lot of our competitors think so as well. So recently, in fact, that landscape has changed. IBM has jumped into the game with Pure System. We say, welcome to the party. You're a little late, but welcome. But as well as EMC and others and Dell, so right now, everybody is focusing in and it's up to us now to provide more leadership to raise that problem. Yeah, you know, Stu, I used to say it's a two-horse race between VCE and HP and said that for a while. And now, like you said, Duncan, everybody's jumped in. We've quantified the market. The total available market is enormous. We were actually shocked when we actually added it all up. Did some, you know, forecast. 400 billion by 2017 is what we're forecasting. I mean, that's a serious marketplace. Yeah, but I want to poke at it. You said, you know, others entering the market is it too late? And when we did our market study, we said today, if you look at the infrastructure, servers, network, storage, and services, less than 1% of that market today is really what we would kind of consider, more the converged infrastructure. We think it's still really early days. This trend's been going on for a couple of years. HP definitely was early with the messaging, strong message on pulling the compute and the storage together. But we think this is a huge trend, as Dave said, $500 billion by 2017. But it is early, so maybe you can give us a little bit of what you think. What do you see from customer adoption? What's changed in the last year other than everybody else kind of piling into this space? Right, right, fair enough, fair enough. So a couple items, so you are exactly right. So it is early on, but also I would say it is off to the races. Example is we did a recent study with over multiple hundreds of customer type of inputs and saying, what is your intentions in terms of your implementation of a converged infrastructure and when? So we're getting right now some substantial numbers in fact up to 75% out of this survey. 75% are either going to implement, expand or upgrade a converged infrastructure within the next year. That is a big increase in terms of what we had seen previously. Now to your point, yes it is early on in the evolution so it'll be very interesting. But I think what's important to understand is why. So the other thing is we have a specific, not just marking specific studies and results to show what are the specific cost savings you can get by going with a converged infrastructure in terms of shifting some of that investment from ops to innovation or pulling into the bottom line. Secondly is how to more quickly provision applications. What we're seeing is up to 75%. That's not good enough. What it is about keeping that infrastructure up and reliable and working on your availability and we're seeing also substantial numbers there. So I think the business case now is out there. There are some very compelling numbers that we're happy to share with customers and partners. And really that is really starting to get this real snowball in terms of attention. Do customers have to pay a premium for that integration? So good question. So do they have to pay additional type of premium for that integration? And if it's just the integration without any value the answer is no. But when there's actual value to be added into that integration the answer is yes. So for example? Yes, so for instance when you start to integrate some of the different software that's going to allow you for some of the rapid type of provisioning capabilities let's say between a cloud system capability in a three par array that's automatically that takes a lot of work out. There is a small fee for that. So why don't customers have to pay a value for the premium for the integration because there's value in integration. You're reducing risk. You're accelerating time to market. You're simplifying their infrastructure. Shouldn't they pay a premium? Okay, so good question. And there are different levels of integration. So that's a good question. So if you think about it there's almost customers are really now looking at a continuum of different levels of integration. One is the do-it-yourself trade-offs with that. Some people still like to do that. Some people have a scale where it's just so huge. We were just talking to a very large aerospace company who kind of blows your mind in terms of the largest of that scale. Second is more on reference configuration where we're doing the upfront work to help really give customers confidence in terms of how they're going to do that integration. Now in those areas we're not doing a lot of integration there but we're providing some help and value in differentiating ourselves. The third area is more where we do the integration at our factory in terms of, for instance, what you've heard here at the show with some of the things we're doing on our app systems. And yes, we do charge for that. That is correct. So customers, I think, by the way, the scenario we have is that the world is going to converged infrastructure so we really do believe that. I think you're in the right spot. When you talk to customers about, well, why wouldn't you use a converged infrastructure? The number one reason they give us is because they're concerned about pricing power shifting to the supplier. So what do you tell, first of all, do you hear that from customers? Is that really the primary reason why they're not doing converged infrastructure? Especially considering they're not paying a big premium for that value. And second is, what do you tell those customers that are concerned about you getting all the pricing power down the road? Actually, you know, it's interesting. I'm not getting that pushback in terms of the pricing type of challenge because we're providing what we feel is just some superior pricing benefits on going this direction and customers get that. But I think the challenge more is in some of the resistance has been in terms of thinking through some of the, how does this affect their processes, their organization, and their teamwork? And I'll give you some great examples that we're finding here at the show. We're seeing some great examples of centers of expertise. We're seeing some customers even starting a converged infrastructure practice. We're seeing, customers saying now the way to justify this is you get a stakeholder that actually is, let's say reports to the CIO who actually is basically your evangelist, your sponsor, and actually can actually take that to the different lines of business to get that type of approval. So our view is that this has not been so much, we feel like our pricing is very aggressive. Think about the things we're doing that are very innovative on the network. It's not very aggressive. So I think it's more that the challenges that people need to think through in terms of how that flows into their organization. And Stu, you've written about that a lot, the whole organization is a server storage network. Today they report to different people. Yeah. You mentioned operations and innovation, and these are the challenges that customers have. We're always quoting over at least 70%, sometimes 80% of our budget is spent on keeping life's on, keeping operations going. VMware didn't really, in virtualization on the server side, help with consolidation, but didn't move the needle on where we're spending our money. So does converged infrastructure move the needle, and how far we, HP originally said, let's flip that from 70, 30 to 30, 70. That seems overly aggressive from our analysis, but what can we expect from converged infrastructure from HP? Well, and I think you make a good point. So when we think through the natural journey that a customer goes through, and this is an important concept where a lot of customers saying, do I have to jump to this end state? Good news is there's a lot of entry points based on your level of maturity to get going with the converged infrastructure. And you can see some very different levels of rates of return as you go along that, and speed of success. So to your point, when I think about even, like say virtualizing an environment, one of the things that we've thought through with the converged infrastructure is seeing that performance all the way through, including storage. As you know, I'm not probably, I'm sure you know better than I do. So the point is how we've done some different things with three parts. When you virtualize a server, thinking through the impact on networking in storage is a big deal to see the benefit. To answer your question on cost though, where we see that you're right, that there's a huge opportunity in shifting how much is being spent on keeping the lights on to shifting that innovation. Our specific white paper shows that we can actually achieve a 50% type of benefit. And for a lot of customers they say yes. No, that's great. People don't like the term reference architecture. The vendor community doesn't like that term, but when we quantified the market, we put it into three camps. Legacy, which of course vendors also hate, reference architecture and single skew. And it suggested our analysis was that the quote unquote reference architecture was a much, much larger business, i.e. people wanted choice and wanted options. They didn't want one color as long as it's black. At the same time, there's some value to single skew. It simplifies things. It's easier, right? So it's homogeneous. So what is HP's philosophy on that whole, I'll call it reference architecture. I think you know what I mean. And I know you go beyond reference architectures. Because a lot of people reference architecture is a white paper. So we're talking about more than a white paper here. So what's your philosophy there? What are you seeing in your business? Because you offer both. And talk about that a little bit if you could, Dr. So we have seen a real uptick in the interest. And even at the show, and I would say over the past three months, in terms of conversations that are actually now starting to shift more towards integrated systems. Why? People are saying, I don't want to invest all my precious resources necessarily in just, in all the, all the bits and bytes. It's getting my people just consumed by the plumbing. They say, I want to take those precious resources, do more on the analytics, on the insights. I want to integrate your app system, let's say to get analytics to act and analyze that data and really see the benefit. So we're seeing a lot more attention on that. But I got to tell you that we feel that we need to provide a lot of different choices. But the one thing that's new about HP, we're not going to just say, we can just do it all. We're saying, yes, we can do it all. But after listening to you and listening carefully, we will have an opinion and we will offer that opinion to you. You mentioned IBM came to the party. Let's see, three years later. And essentially from my mind, it essentially replaced, obsolete it if you will, the blade system with the new announcement. I don't think IBM said that, Stu, but essentially they've done that. Yeah, I think it's pretty clear. So my question is, I wonder if we can have a conversation about that because while they're late, the offering was pretty impressive. They had all their execs come out. So of course the messaging was really good. It's a new architecture. And they started from scratch. So but the thing that I want to ask you about Duncan is, and I'm trying to, we're trying to squint through it. How much is this is real? How much do others have of this? This being the ability to codify knowledge of workloads and applications into the system. You guys have cloud maps, for example. How much of that do you already do? Are you working towards? How much of that do you feel that, I mean, IBM made it sound like that's there today? What do you say? Yeah, so again, welcome to the party, but as my parents said, if you're late to the party, you better be well dressed. So I'm not sure they had all the bells and whistles on at least not for Vegas, but it's not enough just to integrate some of the hardware. And yes, they've introduced some patterns of recognition. And quite frankly, we're still looking for those and we haven't really seen a lot. So I think maybe a little bit over their ski tips in terms of what was announced versus what is delivered. But I think strategically, they are helping validate that this path of convergence is the right path. I think it makes a lot of sense for the customer base, but at this point it's- Well, I think you're right. I think it was good, strong validation. Now, also bringing another one of your competitors. We'd love to do that in theCUBE, sorry, but that's what your customers are doing. So we want to have a public discussion about it. Prasad Rampali runs the solutions group at EMC, works very closely with the VC guys. I asked him if you can codify that information and he said, we're just starting to do it, which I thought was, and Prasad, you know him, he's a very candid, honest guy. He's not a marketing person. He said, we're just starting to do that. Looking into that, bringing that into a single database to allow us to recognize those patterns. So where is HP with regard to that capability? Well, how important is that capability and where are you with regard to that? Well, yeah, so on a couple different fronts. So number one, with our former EDS business, they are experts in doing application transformation. So this is not new to us and they have a real competency on that. They have some amazing tools to actually look at threading of the application. So that is an existence within the HP Corporation. Now, the thing that's more germane to our conversation is what we've done on cloud maps. And that is a big investment. We've been doing that now for literally two years and we will continue to do that. And so we have an overall Alliance One program with over 4,000 different ISVs in there. And this is part of one of the benefits and assets that we will actually work with our community, create these cloud maps, because it really does help to characterize, to look at best practices, to look at different type of technical type of tools for how more quickly to get these applications up and running quickly. Okay, so Duncan, two areas I wonder if you could give us a little bit of HP's color on. One is the partner ecosystem. Thought one of the things IBM did quite well is they had over 85 solutions that they kind of marched out with their partners when they launched the pure system, which is nice. Not just here's a VM and here's an SAP, but 85 of those they mapped out. We want to dig into a little bit of detail and see how much of that is real and gets deployed. And secondly, we think the channel is where the battle for convergence happens. And NetApp's done a really good job with FlexPod. VCE went through a little bit of bumps along the road. But can you give us the colors to how each piece sees those two pieces? Sure, sure, excellent question. So our view on this is when you think about this area of convergence, I think there is kind of a lack of skills both within the customer and as well as with the partner community. That is where we have this incredible program called Expert One. So we make a commitment in terms of the training and certification for our partner community. So we are inclusive with our partners from day one with the converged infrastructure. And that's important because it actually allows a channel partner to tier their skills and their capabilities versus their competition. And yes, that level of training and certification also is available for customers. Now we go one step further. We have something called Service One. That allows our partners to be able to both to sell HP services under an HP brand and then we can deliver it. Or they can actually, they can sell it and then they can actually deliver it themselves. Or they can brand it with their own partner label with the right level of training and deliver it themselves. So Service One, in combination with Expert One, I believe shows our commitment to the channel in terms of how critical they are to roll it out. Now, to your question as far as is it just in market S and B, I think it goes well beyond that. Certainly in that case, I agree with you that that is almost characterizes that marketplace that there's a lack of headcount expertise to actually handle that. So yeah, it's an immediate benefit but I think it goes well beyond that. And as we think through how to provide some of these integrations into, take it up, not just to the converged infrastructure but actually to the application and to the cloud, I think it goes well beyond that. So what is the future hold? What's this whole business look like? I mean, today it's early days. You're seeing a variety of different solutions out there. Obviously you've got, you know, you guys are making this a key marketing and engineering and business model tenant of what you're doing. It's a fundamental to your strategy in the enterprise group. Where do we go from here? What's it going to look like in five years? So I think this is really where HP stands apart. So our view is that we're really taking the converged infrastructure going forward. Our vision is to take it even beyond where the converged infrastructure touches the app. As I mentioned, it'll actually then reach into information. So it really talks about how we can go more higher up vertically to get more meaningful based information that customers can see immediate value on. We are looking upon how this can be delivered both in terms of traditional cloud, both private public and in fact in a hybrid environment. So our view is that the opportunity is really to take it on up to the application, the information across those different environments. In overall, it is a cohesive strategy and a singular architecture really across the company where we can have that level of confidence and the level of capabilities that I believe will be industry best bar now. We've said by 2017 more than 70% of the infrastructure is going to be of some kind of converged variety, whether it's single skew or some kind of reference architecture, so we think you're in the right place. Duncan, congratulations on your new position and good luck with everything. We really appreciate you taking time out and coming in theCUBE. Okay, my pleasure. Thank you very much for your time. All right, we're live from HP Discover. This is theCUBE, siliconangle.com's live wall-to-wall coverage of the event. Keep it right there. We'll be right back.