Come in. I am E.G. Marshall. Welcome to the world of terrifying imagination. Our story deals with fate. Some call it luck. Whatever it is, it works in the strangest ways to reward us or defeat us. Fate walked into Charles Powell's life in the person of Clint Levitts.  Now if you don't get out of my office and leave these premises immediately, I'll have you put out. You must be putting on an act, Mr. Charles Powell. Maybe this will jolt your memory. Three, five, four, one, oh, six, three. What? Yeah. I thought that would do it, Charlie. I thought that might help you remember. Our mystery drama No Hiding Place was written especially for the Mystery Theatre by Sidney Sloan and stars Larry Haynes. It is sponsored in part by the Kellogg Company, makers of Kellogg's Special K cereal. I'll be back shortly with Act One. And now another tale of the ball and chain. At Kellogg's Special K. Prevents overweight on an overnight train. This is seat taken. Please, sit down. You have exceptional legs. But one is one of them attached to a ball and chain. This ball and chain? It's a symbol. Funny, I would have sworn it was a ball and chain. I mean symbol. It can pound around a few extra pounds. It can be just like lugging around this ball and chain. I see. May I suggest something? Try a bowl of Special K. Skin milk, orange juice, and coffee. It's the Special K breakfast. Will it make you lose weight? No. You must also exercise and eat smart at every meal. I see. Do you know the Special K breakfast is less than 240 calories, 99% fat-free and delicious? But if you hum a few bars a night, and that's another tale of the ball and chain. Your happy ending could begin with the Kellogg's Special K breakfast. That's Kellogg's Special K. Bye. Full of night. Well, it's all right to tell one lie, isn't it? You can't. Then how about lying just a little bit? Not a little bit. You mean you can never lie? Never. Well, why not?  You mean that just one lie will make your heart dark? Makes you say two. Oh, then what should you do if you tell a lie? Well, you should say sorry. And then what? Then the light goes inside your heart. Oh, the light goes on? Yeah. Oh, a light doesn't really go on in your heart, does it? Yes, it does. Well, how do you know? Because it's because the light in your heart is shining your eyes. Oh. And then you'll be happy. Hmm. I wonder why people tell lies. I wonder why too. From the Franciscans. With love. Everything looked right to Charles Powell at crisp September morning when he walked into his executive office at the J.P. McCready Company. And why shouldn't it? Charlie Powell was a big shot there. At 37, executive vice president of one of the largest manufacturers of heavy construction equipment in the country. And he had done it all in less than 12 years. It was a real-life ratio-alger story, even to his being engaged to J.P. McCready's daughter, Alison. How could anything go wrong? But it did. The moment he walked into his private office. Yes, I'll see. There's someone to see you. Appointment? No, sir, but he says that you'll see him. Mr. Powell, maybe I'd better come in and explain. Yes, all right. Come in. Sorry if I sound strange, but really, Mr. Powell, that man is kind of frightening. Frightening? Well, he just sits there and grins at me. I told him he didn't see people without an appointment. He said, oh, he'll see me. Just tell him it's an old friend, Clint. You know anybody by that name? Clint, Clint. No, it doesn't ring a bell. All right, send him in. I'll give rid of him. Okay. Don't say I didn't warn you. Mr. Powell will see you. Nice of you to see me, Mr. Powell. Well, I try to see everybody, Mr.... Just Clint. I don't think you ever knew me by anything but Clint. You must remember Mr. Powell. Well, I'm sorry, but I don't... Come on, give it a try. Give it a good try. Now look here, I'm busy and I have neither the time nor the patience. You must be putting on an act, Mr. Charles Powell. Maybe this will jolt your memory. 3-5-4-1-0-6-3. Yeah. I thought that would do it, Charlie. I thought that might help you remember. Charles? Oh, I'm sorry, Mr. McCready. I guess it was daydream. Something bothering you, young man? Oh, no, no, no. I hope not. Here I take you to the best French restaurant in town. You pick at your food, gaze into space, send your dinner away, hardly touched. Did I send all that good food back without eating it? You did? I particularly wanted to see you alone, Charles, because I have a little news for you. News? What kind of news, Mr. McCready? And that's another thing.  Yes, of course I realize. How could I overlook it when Allison keeps reminding me regularly? Very well then. Do you think it proper to call your father-in-law to be Mr. McCready? If you don't start calling me John... Okay. John, it'll be. I'm going to leak a little information to you. Yes? As you know, I've been thinking of stepping down from the presidency of the company. Yes, well, it has been rumored, but I wish you'd reconsider. Now, sincerely, the place wouldn't be the same without you. I'll still be there, Charlie. I'm not giving up my stock. The name of the company will still be J.P. McCready Company. The only difference will be that you will be sitting at my desk. At your desk? Well, I thought Hedges was slated to take over when you stepped down. No. Well, Tom was seriously considered, but he's a bit too old for the job. No, the company needs young blood. Well, I'm really bolt over. I've watched you grow. Come up on merit, ability.  Of course, the board will have to vote on your appointment, but that, as the saying goes, is in the bag. Well, there's something you've omitted, John. You haven't asked me if I wanted the job. Is it necessary to ask? I remembered another lunch with you several years ago. We got talking about ambitions, and you said that you would never be satisfied with second best. It had to be the top job or you'd move on. Yes, but that was before this morning. What? Uh, nothing. Just mumbling. I'd like to know how you feel about it, John. Well, Hedges, to be considered for the position is an honor, Mr. John. And your answer? Let me think it over. I must think it over. What? Don't worry, you're driving. Are you out to get me yourself or both of us? Oh, I'm sorry, dear. I guess I didn't realize how fast I was going. This car has more power than it needs. More than I need. I'm sorry. At least it gave us a topic for conversation. Hm? What did? You're driving. Darling, I'm the girl you asked to marry you. Something is troubling you, something big. Allison, did your father tell you what he's planning? Dad never tells me anything. I have an idea he thinks of me as a bird print. He wants me to take over the presidency of the company. That's marvelous. Couldn't have made a better choice. But it's a nice kind of prejudice. I, uh... I don't think I'll accept. What? Darling, it's right for you. You've worked toward that goal. You're the right man for the job. Am I? What is this lack of confidence, Mark Fever? You're being ridiculous, darling. No, I'm being practical and sensible. My being president of the McCready Company would bring nothing but trouble. What are you saying? I'm even considering resigning my present job. Why? Allison... Tell me. Whatever it is, I'll never stop loving you. I'll tell you. When I get up enough courage, please, darling, be patient with me. Just be patient. I love you, too. When we got here, thought you were gonna forget our appointment. You didn't really think that clearly. Oh, I knew you'd come. You wouldn't dare not to come. You got it with you? Yes, I've got it. Small bills? Five stands, as specified. Let's have it. No envelope, too. Nice and neat. Thanks. Now, look, I don't know how much longer I can do this. You'll do it as long as I say. And if I run out of money? You'll just have to scrounge around and find more. Well, I'm thinking of quitting my job. You wouldn't want to do that, Charlie. Well, suppose... Suppose it gets too much for me, and I say, go ahead, spill what you know. You wouldn't do that. You're gonna marry a very rich girl.  Even a couple extra grand. Hold on.  I don't like the way you put that, Charlie. I'd rather you'd think of it like it was sort of, uh, sharing the wealth. You got the bread. I got nothing. This way, we both got something. I got a nice living, and you... You've got your freedom. Oh, yes, Mr. Mc... Yes, John? Sorry to bother you at this hour. You wanted to sleep, were you? At 10.15? No. Morning. Yes. I, uh... I've had some things in my mind lately. I'm sorry it was so noticeable. Right. No, no, no. It isn't that, JP. Oh. Uh, excuse me, John. Someone's at my door. Hold on. Just a moment. Forgive me for coming here. I've got your father on the phone. Come in, darling. What a weather package. What will you say? I'm sorry, JP, but there really is no cause for concern. I'll snap out of this in a day or so. Oh, no, I wasn't a stir. I... Good night, JP. Even dad notices that something is wrong. Yeah. I haven't seen you in three days. Are you trying to tell me something? All I have... All I want to tell you is that I... love you very much. From a distance. Hmm? I called you at your office twice this afternoon. Allison... Allison, I can't keep this from you. I thought I could, but every day, every hour, it grows bigger. Until now it feels as though it's going to engulf me. And you, our life, everything that has meaning for me. Darling... No, no, no. Hear me out.  You loved you? Are you trying to say you don't want to marry me? Did you stop loving me? Darling, it's because I love you that I'm going to tell you. Considered keeping the whole matter from you, writing out the trouble and probably overcoming it.  Allison, I'm a fraud. What? I'm not Charles Powell. It's a name I assumed to hide my real identity. Want me to go on? Yes, darling. Go on. At the age of 22, I was charged and convicted of murder and sent to San Clinton for life. I was innocent, evident, circumstantial evidence. Court appointed an attorney who didn't know what to do, what didn't care. A weak effort to appeal, which was refused, and there I was at 22 in prison for life. Chance of a parole only after serving 20 years. I'd be old. All my young life confined in prison. So when I had a chance to get out and ran for two years, do you know what it means to be hunted?  I was ready to give myself up when I suddenly discovered that it wasn't necessary to run any longer. I picked up a two-week old newspaper and read a report of my death. What? Yes, a man, a man had been burned to death in a flop house fire. The only thing he had on him was something that I had kept, my only possession. A locket belonging to my mother and had a picture of her taken when she married my father. And it had been stolen from me as I lay asleep in a freight car. I guess the thief thought it was gold. It was just cheap gold plate. And the man was identified as you? My mother and father's names were inscribed on the back. The man was so badly burned that the locket was the only thing that could possibly identify him. And after two years of hunting, the authorities were glad to close the file. On Robert Hagen. Robert Hagen sounds so strange. The name doesn't fit you. Oh, it sounds strange to me too now. Darling, I'm innocent. I never did it. It was all a mistake. I don't doubt that for an instant, dear. I only wish it never told me. I had to tell you. You see, someone knows who I am. He's blackmailing me. When you're being blackmailed, you don't have many alternatives. Charles Powell's whole life is future. The happiness of the woman he loves all hang by a very thin, flimsy thread. I'll be back shortly with act two. I'm High Brown, producer of Radio Mystery Theater. 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Just keep paying, and I'll keep my mouth shut. His blackmailer assured him. But then something happened that threatened to destroy Charles' fragile security. Yes, Aussie? Mr. Hamel is here to see you. George Hamel? Well, we're not playing tennis until tomorrow. I know that, Charlie. I've got something else to talk about. Business. Business? Yours or mine? Mine. But it concerns you. Okay, come in, George. Sorry to barge in on you. I know you're busy. Oh, I'm never too busy to see George Hamel rising young district attorney and next governor of the state. Your humor creaks, Charlie. Seriously, I've got something that sort of disturbs me. Oh, what does? Last night in a bar over on the west side, a man was bashed over the head with a bottle. He's in serious condition. Well, what has that got to do with me? Well, the man who did the bashing, an ex-con by the name of Clinton Livitz, yes, is asking for you. Says you'll go as bail. Now, what I want to know is, how does a guy like you get mixed up with a Joe like that? George, what did you think? That he and I were buddies or something? I didn't know what to think. Well, I do know the man. He applied for a job with the company a week or so ago. The foreman who interviewed him discovered he was an ex-con and he refused to hire him. It was brought to my attention when one of the societies that helps ex-cons called me. So you got him a job in the plant? No, no, no, I couldn't. I mean, I wouldn't go over the head of the foreman, but I did see him and I, you know, handed him a couple of dollars. A couple of dollars. You know how much money he had on him when we brought him in? $276. Oh, well, maybe he got lucky at the races with the money I gave him. How much was it? Oh, gee, I don't remember. $15, $20, I just took it out of my pocket and handed it to him. It was, you know, a way of easing my conscience. I felt bad about the way our foreman had treated him. Well, take my word for it. This Clint Libet is a bad customer. Stay away from him. Uh, what will it become of him? Well, he'll go back to the pan where he belongs. Well, what's the bail set at? $5,000. And you're not seriously considering putting it up, are you? No, I'm just asking. Because if you are, that's the last you'll see of your money. For that matter, Mr. Libet, he'll jump bail. Please, George, I'm a big boy now and I think I can make my own decisions. Well, who would have thought it? Charles Powell Bleeding Heart. Oh, look, we've been friends for over five years. When you were running for DA, I backed you with substantial contributions.  You're my friend.  No, let's not kick it out. I'm sorry, Charlie, but I just can't understand what your connection with that ex-con is. Mr. Powell, I hope you'll understand. I accept Clinton Libet's case with strong reservations. Yes, I understand, Mr. Clark. Well, shall I put it? You don't like your client. Exactly. However, I shall do my best to get him off or at least get him a light sentence. I'm extremely pessimistic about Mr. Libet's even showing up for trial. Yes. George Hamill also said he expected that Libet's would jump his bail. And you would forfeit $5,000. Yes, I know. And that doesn't disturb you? No, no, I... I don't believe he'll run. I see. You want to speak with him? He's been released. He's waiting in the other office. Oh, not particularly. He says he wants to see you. Oh. Well, in that case, yes, I'll see him. Descend Mr. Libet's in. I'll leave you alone. If you need me, I'll be in the other office. Now come in, Mr. Libet. Mr. Powell will speak to you. Thanks. I'll be back when you're called. Just flip the switch on the intercom. Yes, I will. Are you sure know how to complicate things, Clint? Sorry of my life. Do you realize you could go up for one to five years for what you've done? No. It couldn't happen. What do you mean it couldn't happen? Because you wouldn't let it happen, Charlie. Look, even with the best lawyer defending you, he can't guarantee he'll win the case.  I'm doing my best for you. But... No, but... I'm not going back to the pen. Okay. Okay, you're not going back.  Oh, you'd like that, wouldn't you? I'd be out of your hair, and all it would cost you would be the five Gs for the bail. No, no, no, no. I'd give you a substantial sum. Oh, Mr. Powell. No sale. I'm too old to run. Well, suppose I got you out of the country. With a good uncle breadstashed away for me? Swiss bank account. I don't know. Why don't we play it by ear? Come in. You wanted to see me, JP? Yes. Can you spare a minute? Yeah, sure. I've heard it on the grapevine that you were... How shall I put it? That you were aiding some ex-convict in trouble with the police. That true? Yes, it's true, John. And I think I know what kind of grapes grow on that grapevine. All right. Now, George... Oh, that's a busy party. Why can't he stick to his job? Now, George is a friend. He tells me that the man you're, uh, protecting is a rather reprehensible character. And let me explain. It's just a matter of policy, my helping this man. Policy? Well, yes, you, uh, you did ask me a few days ago to consider taking over the job of running this company. You're going to accept? Well, I was, uh, I was going to tell you today. Wonderful. Wonderful news. Allison will be delighted. I know she's been worried about you or seeming reluctant. Oh, no, no, not reluctant any longer. In fact, I've got all sorts of ideas about what I want to do. This business of giving a hand to ex-convicts is just wonderful. Do you realize what this would mean in publicity for the company? To take an interest in the rehabilitation of men who would otherwise be lost or burdened to the taxpayer? I'm going to hire a PR man.  How can I keep all these phony stories straight, Allison? It's like a long, dark tunnel with no ending. It will end, and it will all turn out all right. Don't lose your courage. No, I love you and me too. We'll worry this out together. You know, you know what I've considered. What? Going to the authorities and saying, look, I'm Robert Hagen, the man you think died 13 years ago. No, darling, they throw you back into prison while I hire the best lawyers. No, no, don't, don't. Please don't take such a chance. What would I do without you? Darling, darling, I don't know how much longer I can stay in this pressure. I've got to do something, something to free myself. Why not give him a lot of money and ask him to go away? I promise to stay away forever. In Hartgrave's office, I suggested that he jump-dale and get out of the country. What did he say? Well, when I mentioned a big sum, I didn't exactly say how much, you know, a Swiss bank account. He was interested. Did he say he would accept? Well, we were interrupted, and he didn't say definitely. Offer him anything. Just get him to go.  I have some small investments of fair bank account, but what he might want would be beyond me. You forget you're marrying a very rich girl. Oh, no, no. No, I wouldn't think of that. Don't give me that male eco-business. I've got money. That was nice enough to give me a big hunk when I was 21. Now, look, look, Allison. With all my earthly goods, I be endowed. We're not married yet. You're not going to back up now. Not after I've endowed you with all my earthly... What is it? Worldly goods.  As you see, I've got to laughing. Darling, all our troubles are going to evaporate, vanish. No. It won't work, Allison. It'll never work. But you said... No. Clint Levitts will never stick to any bargain. He'll want more and he'll want more. He'll never be satisfied. But we got him out of the country. What's to keep him from coming back when he's broke or even threatening us from abroad? I gave him a thousand dollars in cash only a few days ago. When he was picked up in the bar, he had only about 270 some dollars left a matter of two days. It squandered over 700. But if he were made to understand that the sum agreed on was all he was going to get... No, I make you understand we're not dealing with a rational, honest man. He'll agree to anything. And then he'll... When he runs out or he decides he wants more, he'll be right back. What can you do? There are only two things one can do about a black man. Keep on paying and paying forever. And the other? And the other. Just two ways to deal with a blackmailer. Charles now must face his conscience. The thought that has been in the hidden recesses of his mind has been spoken. Allowed. We will be back shortly with Act 3. I'm sorry. When you say butter you said a lot of things nobody else can say. When you say butter you've got as far as you can go to get the very best. I think about it. You decide. Peace out. Of course you're the blood-wiser people really do believe that willing to be a right does make a difference. But even that's up to you. Am I too boysy? Yes, name Lewis. Who knows how to help you solve your shopping problems? The better business bureau knows. Honey, the TV set just won't work. Who do I take it to? The lady down the street took hers into a place that charged her more and her set was worse. Gosh, I don't know. I'll tell you what to do folks. Who are you? I'm the man from your better business bureau. Now before you take your set in for repairs shop around and check into a firm's reputation. You know that's even more important than the price. Friends and neighbors can help or you can ask for a few names of previous customers to find out if they were satisfied. And since the amount you pay will vary from one place to another it's up to you to find out in advance what a service will cost if you have it fixed at home. Just another consumer tip from your better business bureau. Powell's life has reached a climax. He must make a decision to rid himself forever of his blackmailer and perhaps that very decision will destroy his life and the life of the woman he loves. The alternative is to keep paying and paying never feeling safe. Listen, I was... You were expecting him, weren't you? Yes. I gathered as much when I called you at the office this afternoon. Aren't you going to ask me in? Uh, yeah, come in. You were so evasive. Well, he, uh... wanted to see me at the same evening. He, uh, wants more money. And you're going to give it to him? Well, I haven't many choices, have I? You mentioned one. No. No, Allison, I'm sorry. I let that slip out. I didn't mean it. I couldn't go through with that if I wanted to. I could. What? Honey, you don't know what you're saying. I know very well what I'm saying. How long do you think you can keep this business hidden? Well, I don't know. I don't know. Maybe forever. Look, look, he's not a young man. All those years in prison, the kind of life he's led. How many years do you think he has left? He could die tomorrow. He could do something tomorrow that would expose the whole game. And then where would we be? No. Charles, I love you. I want us to marry and live a good, peaceful life. How can we with all that hanging over? Oh, Allison, darling. Darling, you don't really know what you're suggesting. Look, maybe if we could get him to leave the country. You said there were only two ways to deal with a black man. To keep paying. No, no. To murder him is unflakable. George Hamill asked me to stop by at his office this afternoon. Why?  The story you gave my father about helping ex-convicts as a public relation stunt didn't wash with him. He wanted to know what I know. Well, he was just fishing. The best way would be to make it look like an accident. Allison, we... Clear me out! A car accident. How? If I cracked up with Clint in the car, I might be the one who gets it. And what guarantee do we have that he would die? No, you can't be in the same car if he were in another car and you were following him. And if you raced ahead of him and cut him off and forced him to crash off the road... Oh, yes, yes, yes. It's too iffy. It's so impossible. It's so dream-like. It was a dream. Last night I dreamt you were in a car with me. We saw Clint up ahead of us. I said, there's Clint ahead of us.  Faster, faster. We nearly caught him. Now we're alongside him.  Then I woke up. I was calling out. I was afraid someone had hurt him. Oh, my darling. It was all so real. Oh, that's Clint now.  I'll phone you later. I'm going to stay and meet him. No. I'm staying. I've got something to say to him. He won't like your being here. Well, it sure took long enough. What's the idea, Powell? Uh, this is my fiancée, Allison McCready. What's she doing here?  I ain't saying a thing. You got nothing on me. And remember, Mr. Powell, you got a lot more to lose than I have. I'm not going to lose anything, Mr. Levitt. You're going to gain by my being here. Yeah. Mr. Powell has told me his story, and I agree that it must not get out. Go on. I have a lot more money than... Let me put it this way. Charles and I are going to be married. We want you to leave the country. Ho, ho, ho, ho. I bet you do. Look, Clint, you'll do better by accepting our proposition. We intend to hand you $50,000. And an airplane ticket one way. And never come back. And never come back. Well, I always wanted to travel, but... What? $50,000, just chicken feet. Well, that's all there is. Not enough. I'm thinking around a quarter of a million. Out of the question. I'm not going to bargain with you. I can raise $100,000. No, Allison. It's worth it, Charles. If we can depend on Clint to wipe the whole matter out of his memory and just go away. Oh, you can depend on me. I'll keep my bargain. Then it's a deal? A deal. Good. It'll take about ten days to raise the money. I ain't no hurry. You are. And, uh, speaking of money, that was the reason I, uh, came tonight, Charlie. Yeah, here. That's $500,000. What? You said a G like the last... That's all I could raise in a hurry. When that runs out, I'll have more. You went through that first thousand roughly fast? Well, I got rolled in that bow where I had the trouble. Oh, that reminds me, your trial comes up in less than three weeks. Yeah. The lawyer called me at my hotel. See if I was still around, I guess.  I'll forfeit the $5,000 I put up for it. And get you out of the country. With a quister, full agree. Now, wait. I ain't got a passport. Now, that can be arranged, Clint. Just leave that to me. Okay, friends. You got yourself a deal. Say, Charlie, you're going to put this meal on your expense account, I hope. Too rich for your blood, George? Too rich for my pocket worth. JP's favorite French restaurant. Yeah. Nice to have wealthy, high-paid executives for friends. I'm a simple man. I like simple things. And I like simple answers. Really? How long are you going to cling to that cockamamie story about your helping ex-cons, rehabilitate themselves? It's the McCoy, George. That guy got something on you, Charles. Madame Monsieur, the telephone for you both. Yes, thank you. Where is it? It is here, Monsieur. I will plug it in for you. Thank you. Just like the movie? Yeah. Hello? Charles? Oh, yes, Allison. I know George Humbles when you else he told me you were lunching with him. Listen to what I'm going to say, but don't let on to George. Yes, yes, yes, dear. Allison says hello and to remind you that in two and a half weeks she wants to see you at the church promptly. I'll try to remember. Okay. He's all set, darling. Now, what's so important? Why is the color scheme so important? The housekeeper and her husband are going into town to see their 15-year-old son in the high school play. Well, I don't see that that's such a problem. Choose whatever color will make the bridesmaids happy. Rent a car and let Clint take it to drive out and be here promptly at nine. Do not come together. You come out in your own car, but first report it broken down. Get back after it's all over. The car was out of order. Oh, yes, yes, I follow, dear. I follow. I'm not sure I agree. I have a 22-target pistol. I know how to use it. Yes, I... I know you have to ask him to come, dear, but then what do we do with the unwelcome guest? There's a spot about 100 yards behind the house.  Drop him in. Quick, climb. The gardener's got several bags. But, uh... suppose the gardener wants to supply some flowers for him? He's gone over a year fired. We didn't hire one after that. As soon as it's all over, we'll take the rental car and dump it over the edge of the road near town.  Yes, yes, I know. I know. We dump the car there, and it's smashed up if it catches fire so much the better. Can you take me back to the house and rush back to the city? Report the rental car stolen. You've been in your apartment all evening. Understand? Yes, uh... the color scheme suits me fine, dear. You sure have it all planned. No bobbles, uh... no slip-ups. All planned. Yes, I'll be in my office till late tonight. Nine, at least, if you want to reach me. Good. That was for George's ears, wasn't it? Yes, that's correct, Allison. Now, look, I have a report to get out. If you've completed your instructions, I'll get back to my lunch with George. Goodbye, dear. Wow. That's only the beginning, Charlie. Wait till she gets your sign on the dotted line. Mr. Powell! Mr. Powell, something terrible's happened. What is it, Elsie? It's been a terrible accident on a late ship. A man's caught in a machine. The big press they sent. Oh, good lord. Has the hospital been called? I don't know. Well, call him on your phone. I've got to use this one. Yes, sir. I'll call. But then call down to the plant. Tell him I'm coming down. If it's what I think it is, the machine will have to be partially dismantled. Yes, sir. Allison, listen, there's a change of plans. Charles, where are you? I'm still at the office. Something's happened. You can stay 30. He'll be here at nine. Yes, I know. He has the rental car. I got it for him. When will you be here? Well, it's been a bad accident on a night shift. I'm in the big metal press. I've got to help get him out. But us? What about us? Well, when he comes, call him. Just tell him what happened, why I'm delayed. I haven't got the money, Charles. Tell him I'm bringing the money, the airplane ticket, and the passport. Just call him. I'll do my best, but hurry. He scares me. It's all right. He's not too late. He's still here. Allison. Allison, open up. Will you wait? I'm here. Clint. Clint. I've got to stop him. I've got to catch him. He caught him. He'll scy him. Clint. Clint. Clint, will you stop?  Force him over. Force him over. He's done it. Crushed and burning. Let him. Let him burn. Is this, uh, our old car rental service? Well, I rented a car from you people this morning. No, no, no, no. No, there's nothing wrong with the car. I just want to report it stolen. A city fire and car service. Look, I asked for my car to be picked up in my driveway. It's still here. And I called, or rather, my secretary called at 10 this morning. My name is Charles Powell. Come on, come on. I'll get back to the phone. Just a moment. Oh, George. George, it's kind of late for a visit. Come in. Thanks. I was just trying to phone Allison. Well, what a night this has been. There was an accident at the plant. Peterson, I hope they don't have to have to take. I heard. Yes, and then when I got outside, I had a date with Allison. The car that I had rented this morning was missing. It was stolen. What happened to that great, big, powerful, foreign job of yours? Oh, it wouldn't start this morning. Had else he'd call the service people, but they haven't picked it up yet. I just called them. They didn't pick it up. I just called them. They have a night answering service. You've had a busy evening. Yeah, very. Well, I think I can clear up one of your puzzles, Charlie. Your rental car was found with a thief in it. You caught him? Dead. Burned to a cinder. Must have been going at a terrific speed. Tire marks on the road as he went off. Cracked up and burned. Yeah, yeah. Some kid. No. This may surprise you. It's your protege, Clint Livitz. We found enough of him to identify him. And a slightly burnt, still usable bankroll of sizeable proportions. Well, that closes his case, doesn't it? And opens up several others. Incidentally, where were you all evening? Home. I, uh, after I got back from the plant. You didn't go out? Well, I told you my rental car got stolen. I came home by cab to change my clothes. The, uh, the big car is out of commission. I won't play games with you, Charlie. I checked it in the driveway just before I came up. The engine is still quite warm. You want to explain that? No, I don't want to explain. Charlie, I'm arresting you for murder. I must warn you that what... George, what are you talking about? Are you accusing me of Clint Livitz's death? No, no, that was obviously an accident. I'm holding you for the murder of Allison McCready, the girl you were going to marry. And in conclusion, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my prosecution of Charles Powell or Robert Hagan has been a painful task. I was his best friend. It was difficult to believe that he would kill the woman he loved, but the evidence is conclusive. Charles killed his lovely fiance because she discovered his real identity, an escaped convict, a killer sentenced to life for another murder. The testimony of the housekeeper, Mrs. Francis, cannot be doubted. She did not leave the house, as he thought. She saw him run from the house, jump into his car and race away. And then she discovered the body of Allison McCready shot through the head. Your Honor, may I... may I make a statement before you pronounce it? I did not kill Allison. I loved her. To say anything more in my defense is useless and unnecessary. Allison is dead. All I ask is that I be given the chance to follow her. And so a man is twice accused of murder and twice sentenced for the crime. A weary man who asks only to be allowed to follow the woman he loved. I'll be back shortly. Listen, take the time to kiss.  Love is what you have. How do you do, sir? My grandmother just died. I'm so happy for you. Meet Mrs. Mcnothing. How do you do? Did you know you have spinach on your teeth? Oh, that's wonderful. This is Mr. Jackson. Nice to meet you. I have provided play. Oh, yes, Mr. Plague. Reception lines are the only places people don't listen to. When you really listen, really love, love is what you do. A lot from the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the Mormons. And there we have it. Charles Powell's joust with fate. What difference did it make that he knew that Clint had murdered Allison? They didn't believe him. And he was too weary to try to make them believe. Our cast included Larry Haynes, Anne Meacham, Jackson Beck, Sidney Walker, and Tom Keener. The entire production was under the direction of Hyman Brown. Now, a preview of our next tale. I don't understand it. Tub's bone dry, ma'am, hasn't been used. Now, not tonight, anyway. His clothes. Howard's clothes. He'd empty his suitcases. And put his clothes in the closet. Here's his suitcases, too. Just ladies' clothes? Yours, ma'am? Yes. Hey, look, look, this dream you had. It was no dream. Okay, okay, so maybe you imagined it. I didn't imagine anything. Do you imagine a husband? Do you imagine a month-long honeymoon? Do you imagine a man in a chair with a knife in his check? Radio Mystery Theatre was sponsored in part by Anheuser-Busch, Incorporated, brewers of Budweiser. This is E.G. 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I'm your host, Abley. I have been a licensed real estate agent since 1973. I'm the owner of Century 21 Iproperies, Hawaii, and work with close to 100 wonderful agents in real estate sales. I started Abley seminars in 1980. I have taught over 10,000 students to get their real estate licenses and taught continuing education classes for licensees to renew their license every two years. Our show is dedicated to helping buyers and sellers understand the process involved in a real estate transaction. Our special guests will talk about legal issues, escrow, title, getting a loan, and today we're going to talk about surveys and home inspections, insurance, contracts, rules and trust, and much, much more. So this handsome young man that you see is joining us is Alvin Alimbuyogun, and I can't even pronounce the name correctly, but he'll correct us again. But we're so grateful to have Alvin. He's a second generation surveyor, and I've known his father for decades. So Alvin, thank you for being with us today. No problem. Thank you. So it's Alvin Alimbuyogun. The you is a little silent there. All right.  Right. So I was born and raised on the island of Oahu. My dad has been, he's been surveying since 1999 privately. And before that, he was working with the state as a surveyor for 10 years. So he's been surveying for over 40 years, about almost 40 years. He was through his work, he was able to send me to a mid-pack where I graduated from in 2008. And then also pay for my college education. And I was able to graduate from UH in five years where I graduated in civil engineering. And then, yeah. And so, sorry, go ahead. Tell us more. All right. Yeah. So my mom has also been part of the business for the last 25 years helping my dad with the emails and stuff. So she's also corresponded with AbleLot. So that's how we know each other. Well, your mom, Nilia, is one of my students and also has her license with us. She recently got her real estate license. Yeah, that's correct. Great. So tell me, Alvin, how did you get started and why did you become interested becoming a surveyor? So the first couple years of college, I just didn't know a lot. Like a lot of kids, I don't know what to do. I was just going through life navigating it. And I've always helped my dad, whether it be in the office or going out in the field. So probably the last years of college, I was getting more into surveying with him. And then I was going out more often with him in the field and just learning more and more. And you know, I'm not bad at this. This is not bad. Initially, I didn't really care to actually look into it because it's like I don't want to do what my dad does. I don't know why. I just wanted to do whatever I wanted to do. But I was just figuring that out still. And just thinking about long life plan and stuff. This was the route that decided this best for me and my family. Great. So tell me, what's the educational experience requirements to be a surveyor? Because a lot of people don't know what's required to be a surveyor. It's not easy work. Right. So either you can go through four years of college and then you can take your fundamentals of surveying exam. And then once you finish your fundamentals, you can take your professional surveying license. So the fundamentals first and then usually it's two years of experience under a licensed surveyor. And then you could take your professional license. And then you have to take your state exam to finalize that license. So it's either that or go through 11 years of experience before you can take your fundamentals exam again if you didn't go to college.  And I understand that professional license test takes like eight hours or something around there? Yeah. So each part, the fundamentals is about eight hours. The professional part is about eight hours. And then the state license is about four hours. Holy macro. It's like being a doctor almost, not quite. Okay. So it does take a lot of work. Now let me ask you, when we're out on the road driving around, we usually see two guys, usually two guys or ladies and they have this fluorescent vest on and they have these sticks, right? And they're holding it and someone's doing measurements and stuff. Is that typically a surveyor most of the time? Yeah. So you usually see someone out with a tripod and then another person holding a rod and there'll be some kind of either a GPS or a, we call it a prism on top of it. So one person is usually taking notes and shooting whatever the guy with the rod is holding. And then that's how we're able to physically locate all the measurements and whatever we need, whatever we need to show to finish the survey. Okay. So what you're talking about is what they call field notes, like degrees, azimuths, feet, minutes and seconds, which I have no idea what I'm talking about. Yeah. Just angles and distances pretty much. Okay. And you got to draw that thing with the description. Yeah. Okay. I've read field notes. I go, holy mackerel, I have no idea what they're doing. I have great respect for surveyors. And there are too many of your surveyors. Are there anyway? Doesn't feel like it. I know the average age of a licensed surveyor is around 45 to 50 years old right now. So I don't know how interested a lot of younger people are, but it is interesting to try out. And I would encourage other people to go into land surveying. Okay. So what kind of surveys do you do? What kind of surveys are there? I mean, I understand there's a lot of different kinds of surveys that surveyors can do, but what's your specialty? So we specialize in whatever the real estate agents need to complete their contract, which is mostly staking or boundary surveys. Besides that, we do shoreline surveys, flood elevation surveys, topographic surveys. And then there's other types of surveys that our company typically doesn't do, which is like construction surveys, hydrographic surveys. There's all kinds of different types of surveys, not done in Hawaii either. So there's like mining surveyors. There's surveyors that just do things for locating crime scenes and stuff like that. Wow. Okay. So you mostly in residential then and commercial. Yes. Okay. Very good. And when you say topography surveys, you're talking about gradations of elevations on a piece of ground? Yes. So by the time it gets to the architect, they can use the work that we provide them and then they'll provide you with their architectural drawings that show the right elevation, right side elevation, left side elevation, front elevation. So we work together to bring that to the client. And really for a builder and an architect engineer, you absolutely need a topography survey. Yes. And then before it wasn't required too much if your land is pretty flat, but now there's a new requirement in Hawaii where even if it's just the ADU, you need a full topographical survey even if it's flat. Oh, wow. Okay. So now what's your main responsibility?  What do you do with that field notes that your people give you and what's your job in the back? So I actually do everything from the front to the back. I go out to the field, I work in the office a little bit of everything. But after we collect the data, whatever information we need in the field, the deliverables are usually a map or an AutoCAD file, which like I mentioned, you can send to an architect or the map would be in a PDF where you can see a bird's eye view of what the property looks like just from above. Okay. Great. So let's say, tell me how the process works. Who orders a survey? So typically for a K2 survey, the real estate agent or sometimes the homeowner will also come to us and they'll ask for the survey. And then we'll look up their deeds, we'll look up whatever file plans associated, land court applications, maps, pretty much just to be able to find what their property looks like on paper and mathematically just with the angles and distances that we talked about. So we see what it looks like on paper, take it to the field and then go from there. And then like I said, we bring it back to the office and then we get that map and then in a for a K2, there's a report that goes along with that map that shows encroachments and you can see hopefully it's described clearly enough by us where certain improvements are along the boundary line. If they're crossing into your neighbor or you're crossing into the other neighbor and so on and so forth. Okay. We're going to talk about the minimum distances in a little while, but how long does it take from the time you get an order from somebody to say, hey, can you do the survey? And then how long does it take for you to get to the field, do the report and then bring it back and do the drawings and certify or do the final documentation. Right. So it really depends on the lot because not all lots are made the same. Nothing is a perfect square all the time. You have some lots out in Kaneohe or Waianae or it doesn't matter all over the island. There's a lot of irregular looking lots. So the more irregular it is, the harder it is for us, but it's all part of the job. Yeah. What do you think? Typical work a couple of weeks? All right. So I would say after we get the request, probably spend a day or so going over the notes and finding all the documents we need. And then another day for the field work, hopefully not the full day, so we could squeeze in a couple jobs on one day. Like I said, depending on the lot. And then usually two to three days for our map and report to come out. But if it's a bigger job than the K2, so if it's a topographic survey and Alta survey or something bigger, it's usually two to three weeks after. Okay. I really can't rush because you have your appointments booked. So it's not like you can drop something and go, okay, we can do it tomorrow morning. Because I know Jamie's done that on weekends for me because I'm a regular customer, but he usually doesn't do that. He just does it in sequence unless I bake him. Yeah. So yeah, we usually, we're usually booked two to three weeks ahead. But we try to accommodate everyone that comes to us, but sometimes, sometimes everything's really rushed and we would prefer not to rush, especially when you're dealing with something, you know, so much legalities involved, right? You don't want to mess up. So the difference between, yeah, you bet. So the difference between a K1 survey and a K2 survey that we see in the purchase contract is a K1 is you're just putting in pins, four, five, whatever. Yeah. But the K2 survey, you have two things going, right? You have the map itself, and you're showing the encroachments, encroacher or encroachee. And then you have a, what do you call it, a narrative saying, okay, point A has this, point B has this, and point C has this. So that's a lot more complicated and detailed, isn't it? Yes. So yeah, from just the staking, it takes a little bit more time. So the staking would pretty much be done the day of. And then we would double check it in the office and send send a certificate or a letter certifying that it was staked. Okay. But most properties with homes, they usually do a K2 survey around the K1 survey. Is that right? That's correct. Okay. So it takes a little more time. And of course, it's a little more expensive. Yeah. Okay. All right. Very good. Now, what's an encroachment? So an encroachment is just the measurement that would be over your property line. So if let's say I have a rock wall that I built along what I thought was my boundary line, the world's not perfect and contractors aren't perfect, people aren't perfect. So we might just build an inch or two over. So in our report, it might show how much feet, like 0.2, 0.1, 0.5, half a foot over the boundary line, the wall it actually is. And then it's not considered an encroachment in Hawaii unless it's over six inches, half a foot. Okay. So let's go over that. They call it the minimum structure discrepancy or something. So if it's residential, it's a half a foot. So people can't get it mistaken because it's not 0.6 feet, it's 0.5 feet, which is six inches. Correct. Now, if it's apartment, industrial business resort, then the allowable tolerance is what a foot is it? 0.25, I believe. Okay. 0.25 feet. And then how about for if it's agricultural or rural areas, I believe it's 0.75 feet? I think you're correct on that. Okay. And then conservation land is usually one and a half feet, is what I've been told. We don't work too much on conservation, so I'll have to double check on that one. You might know more about that than me, but... All right. Well, just so you know, I teach this stuff in my classes every month, but you deal mostly with residential, so it's half a foot, right? Yeah. So if the encroaching wall or fence is less than 0.5 feet or six inches, then the law says it's not deemed to be an encroachment. Is that correct? It's still, technically it is still an encroachment in our eyes, but to the law, you don't need an encroachment agreement written on it. It does not need to be reported, you know. Okay. But you point it out, like it's 0.5 feet or so whenever we see a report from a surveyor, we're always looking for 0.5 feet or less. Because if it's a point more, then we may have to get an encroachment agreement, whatever. Right? Yeah. Okay. Thank you. So now, what's an ALTA survey versus a regular survey? So that's for the American Land Title Association. And so for residential lots, usually they won't ask for an ALTA. Mostly commercial lots will ask for an ALTA. That's just up to the title company to decide whether they want it or not. And then that usually involves locating everything, including the perimeters. So we'll show encroachments, but we'll locate everything else, including the house, the roof lines, anything visible, all utilities, the sidewalks, overhead wires, everything, everything. So that takes more money then. Yeah. Those are typically a little bit more expensive. Okay. Because I've rarely done ALTA surveys except for commercial lenders. Yeah. Usually they'll want it. But some people say we don't need an ALTA survey, just give us a regular one. But so there's the ALTA survey, which is more for commercial properties. And then of course, the regular survey, which what we call the K2 survey for what would I call residences then? Yeah. Right. Okay. So now, how do you know, like, if you see a wall or fence, typically that's what's encroaching most of the time. But how do you know whose wall it is when something crosses over from one side to the other? So sometimes we'll ask the owners if they both know, if we're unsure. But what's a giveaway for us is usually how the fence corners or angles. If a fence usually isn't made, like just straight on one property, sometimes it'll usually connect to a gate or something. That'll be some kind of identifier for us that to us looks kind of obvious that it's made by one side versus the other. We look for those kinds of things, like the corners and the angles of it. Okay. So that's kind of almost a judgmental call based on what you see as to who has the bulk of that wall. Is it one side or the other side? Yeah. Okay. What do you do when the lot is really steep? Because I've asked your father to do a survey or a to the interest. We're not going. Yeah. So yeah, we'll recommend some other bigger companies. There are bigger companies that have more better technology than we do. Our instruments are usually reliant on the line of sight. So there are drone surveys and things of that nature. But if we can't physically send someone down there, then we'll typically put a point along the boundary line. And then the map that accompanies our survey is going to show how far back the actual line goes down a hill or something. And typically when we look down, there's usually, and it's if it's an inaccessible, it's usually on a lot that there's no one on the other side. So we pretty much know that no one's encroaching or have built anything over there. Okay. So what happens when two surveyors, one did one survey on one end and the other survey on the other side and sometimes they cross over, but sometimes they don't match. So what happens when two surveys don't exactly close out as they say? What do you do with the other survey? So typically we'll talk to the other survey first because they'll have done their homework and then we'll have done our homework and we'll compare notes. And sometimes surveying isn't exact science. We can see that the math says exactly 50 feet, but the world isn't perfect. And what we find on the ground and what we see with the walls and how the walls measure up and everything, it's not exactly 50 feet. So somewhere along the lines, people just didn't really get surveys and built their walls wherever they thought the lines were and then that's what usually causes the problems.  So we'll compare notes with the other surveyor and then we might change our decision or the other surveyor might change their decision depending on how convincing we are to each other. Or we'll just agree that at the point where it comes together, there is some discrepancy there and if someone did a survey coming from one side versus someone did a survey coming from the other side, there's a problem in that area and that's where the problem meets and sometimes the pins don't match up. That's just, if there's nothing really we could do more. I asked a surveyor who was a state surveyor and he was my neighbor in Manila and old timer. So he retired from the state and then went to private practice with a local engineering firm. I asked him one day, I said, Kazoo, how come you guys say approximate or about? And he made a really classic point which you said was serving as an art and not a science. So historically, how do they measure in the old days before GPS and before drones or whatever? Yeah, so before they used chains and they would, each chain would be like 66 feet in length and then they would know the length of the chain and they would be accompanied with a compass which is a magnetic compass. So there's a lot of things that can go wrong there. Length of the chain can shorten or lengthen depending on the temperatures. If you're close to something magnetic, your compass could be thrown off a little bit. So there's all these factors before that don't aren't really a factor now with the technology that we have but could cause problems down the line to where we have to survey it now. So really, serving in the beginning was two guys with a chain, they pull and then they measure. Right. Yeah. And I always say if they're in the morning, they're strong, it's tighter, but if they're tired at the end of the day, it might be looser and that's what they say about or approximately in their description. Yeah. Well, for us too, it's because our measurements, for example, would be 0.53 for an encroachment, but we say approximately 0.5 because we're going to only the 10th, but we could actually measure to the hundreds. So that's where we say approximate for us. All right. So technology wise, it's a much more finer science now than it used to be when you had two guys with the chain. Correct. Okay. So people have to understand that serving may not be exact. It might not be exactly 5,000 square feet. Approximately is what they say, right? Yeah. Okay. So we have a few minutes left. What's an unusual thing that you found in your survey that was kind of different and yet you have to resolve the issue or you have to solve the problem? So the biggest problem for us is when deeds were written in Hawaiian before and then they've been interpreted in English, and then we'd have to actually transfer some of the units from chains to feet and everything like that. So the problems now is sometimes a lot doesn't close or it doesn't mathematically, let's say it's supposed to be 50 by 50 by 50, like a perfect square. But by the time it gets, by the time we read it now and by the time we get to the lot, it's actually 60 by 50 by 60 or something. It's just everything's just kind of off. And then we kind of have to, we have to see how to deal with that from each lot is its own entity. So we have to figure it out individually for each lot what the problem is. Well, I give surveyors a lot of credit because when you do the meets and bounds and degrees, feet, minutes and seconds, I have no idea what the heck I'm reading. And I'm so grateful that there are guys like you and your father and others and have been in surveying for quite a few years. So Alvin, thank you so much. I really appreciate the time and your insight into the surveying world because a lot of people don't really understand what a surveyor does. So I give you credit. Thank you. Thank you folks for watching. And I hope you learned some new things today on our Think Tech Kauai show. And our guest is Alvin Alembuygun and a surveyor, licensed surveyor and an engineering graduate from University of Hawaii. So if you want to see the show or more or tell your friends about it, Think Tech Kauai has an archive of all the shows that we've done. And certainly tell your friends about it. And please, we'd love to have you watch our other shows that we've had with different guests. So thank you very much. And we appreciate you watching. And we'll see you in the next session of finding your piece of the rock. Thank you so much for watching Think Tech Kauai. If you like what we do, please click the like and subscribe button on YouTube. You can also follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn. Check out our website, thinktechkauai.com. Mahalo.


Ignaz Goldzie, the famous Hungarian Orientalist, Scholar Wright. Avas and the Blau Day of Karbala, the history of this family has been a continuous series of sufferings and persecutions. These are narrated in poetry and prose and richly calculated literature of martyrology, a Shi'i speciality, and from the theme of Shi'i gatherings in the first third of the month of Muharram, whose tenth day Ashura is kept as the anniversary of the tragedy at Karbala. Things of that tragedy are also presented in this day of commemoration in dramatic form. Our feast days are our assemblies of mourning, so concludes a poem of a prince of Shi'i disposition recalling the many man of the Prophet's family, weeping and lamentation of the evils and persecutions suffered by the Alec family, and mourning for its martyrs. These are things from which loyal supporters of the cause cannot seize, more touching than tears of the Shi'is, has even become an Arabic quote.


Today, we're going to be making homemade pico de gallo. The ingredients we have for this recipe are jalapeños, six Roma tomatoes, a lime, an onion, fresh cilantro, and garlic powder, and you'll need some measuring cups and spoons and a chopping knife. Okay, first we want to cut up our Roma tomatoes. We need about six medium tomatoes. Two thirds cup of an onion, chopped. Two tablespoons of fresh cilantro, just pull some off, chop this up. Two tablespoons of jalapeño pepper, so probably about one large, and we're going to cut the ends off and cut it in half. If you like it really spicy, you can leave the seeds in, but we're just going to scoop them out with a spoon. I'll just cut it into thin strips, and then we'll slice it really thin. Make sure not to touch your eye in this process. So about two tablespoons or one large, so our one large ended up being about three tablespoons, but it can be as little or as much spicy as you want it. Okay, and now we need the juice of one lime, so you can roll it to help release those juices a little bit. Just cut it in half, and we'll just squeeze it into here. And again, you can add more lime juice, too, if you like a little bit more lime flavor. Last, we just need to add a half a teaspoon of garlic powder.  There you go.


Call all hands, speak to quarters. One broadside into it, if you please, Captain Bush. Point to some targets! Binstops ready? Aye, aye sir! You bad CS foresters, indomitable man of the sea, a ratio hornblower. It makes all such days memorable, as one looks back on them after a space of years. But one particular late autumn day comes back to me with living clarity, for it was the first time I set eyes on my old friend William Bush. A meeting which, as things turned out, had lifelong consequence for both of us. The old renown, Captain Sawyer commanding, lay at anchor in spithead, completing to sea. As luck would have it, I was officer of the watch, when the new lieutenant reported aboard. Lieutenant Bush reported aboard, sir, here are my waters. Pleased to have you aboard, sir. My name is Hornblower. Have you got your gear with you? My C-Tress for it, yes, by the Larbett Hatchway. Good. I'll see that it's sent to your quarters, sir. Mr. Arms! Lay out here immediately! Speak into me, sir. Mr. Arms, that powder's got to get aboard before nightfall in tonight. And don't use that tone of voice when replying to an order. If you sulk, how are you going to get your men to work? Well, I ought to be working. That's up to you, Mr. Arms. Now please get back for it and see to it. Aye, aye, sir. I'm not quite as fierce as I sound, Mr. Bush, but if once they start sulking, no ship can maintain discipline. Mr. Arms is about the worst of the lot. Acting gunner and no earthly good at it. Favourite of the captain, I'm afraid, and therefore very... Well, of course, I have no right to pass along ship's gossip. Of course, I rather wish you would. Man, can't help feeling strange in a new bird. No, no, I can't hold with any breach of discipline, Mr. Bush. I was wrong even to mention it. Boss' mates! Side boys! Aye, sir! Aye, sir! Captain's gig approach in men! Aye, sir! That young midshipman seems a little nervous. Young well-arge, I mean. That was a nice lad, barely sixteen. The captain's a trifle. Well, inconsiderate of midshipmen. All hands! Attention! Careful, Mr. Bush, the captain's coming on board. Oh, and who is this officer? Our new third lieutenant, sir. Lieutenant William Bush. Bush? Bush? Oh, yes, I see. Came aboard in my absence, did you, Mr. Bush? Ah, yes, sir. As Mr. Hoonblower has just explained. No, no.  Well, no one, sir. I didn't even know you were ashore till Mr. Hoonblower informed me. So you and Mr. Hoonblower know each other already, do you? Well, no, sir. I merely reported to him when I came aboard, so that you and he could have a few private words together without my knowledge. Oh, no, sir. Of course not, I merely... No, no.  You may report to me in my cabin in an hour. Say, Hoonblower, what's up with you? He's as likely as not to pop straight back up that companion way. He always hopes to catch us discussing him. Tell me, is he quite sane? I... I hope so, Mr. Bush. We've a long voyage, as I said. I begin to feel it may seem very long, Mr. Hoonblower. If I'd realized... Mr. Hoonblower! Aye, sir! Bring two hands at once and see to Mr. Bush's sea chest, please. Look right in there. He puzzling, even cold and forbidding that first day. But ever since my first year as a midshipman, I had drilled into me the strenuous sense of an officer's duty, his obligations to his captain. The renown was certainly not a happy ship far from it, but I felt that Bush must find out for himself how things stood. It wasn't long before he did, unfortunately. We'd only been at sea two days when he came looking for me. Mr. Hoonblower. Oh, good morning, Mr. Bush. You sleep well? Possibly. I... Well, you won't approve of what I'm going to say, but... I've been talking with young Wellard. Is it possible the captain treats his midshipman so brutally? I could scarcely... Captain Wellard talks too much. No, no, I assure you I'm the guilty one. He shared a watch with me last night. I made him talk. Midshipmen are impressionable, young scamp. Surely you've remembered that from your early years. The stock complaints, the... Of course, but I never had a captain who indulged himself in such caprices or such malice. Mr. Bush, you and I are hardly in a position to judge what... Nonsense. I'm talking to you because you're the first man I met aboard this ship. And because... Well, because I hope you'll be friends. Friendships aren't entered into casually on this ship, Mr. Bush. Like it or not, I'm going to speak my mind. Doesn't anyone, not even butchland feel as I do, doesn't anyone consider Captain Sawyer a... a brutal tyrant? What would any of us do about it, if by any chance we did, Mr. Bush? Confound it, Hoonblower. It isn't even Navy justice. And Navy justice can be very blind sometimes. At least a delegation of officers could call on him. Ask him to temper some of these cruelties he inflicts on his midshipmen. You haven't been aboard long, have you, sir? Do you know what would happen to that delegation, you suggest? Within two minutes, every officer in it would be put on watch and watch till further orders. Four hours on duty, four hours off day and night around the clock. Now, no, Mr. Bush, we need our sleep too much. Oh, I suppose so. Young Wellard seems well... very much impressed by you, if I may say so. Oh, Wellard's a nice boy, but I... Mr. Hoonblower! Oh, Mr. Wellard. Mr. Buckland's compliment, sir, and will you and Mr. Bush join him below on the gun deck? Practice drill in running out gun carriages, he says, sir. Oh, it's a good idea, don't you think so, Mr. Bush? Our gun crews need some exercise. They've been in too long in port. Oh, what such a good day, Mr. Wellard? Oh, I took the liberty of stopping by your quarters, Mr. Hoonblower. Just brought up your old uniform coat. I noticed you were wearing your new uniform today. Well, that work down there is going to be hot and dirty. You thought you might want to change. Sir, I never asked... Oh, all right, sir. All right, Mr. Wellard. Very considerate of you, I'm sure. Give me my coat. Oh, and go and tell Mr. Buckland we'll be with him immediately. Well, sir, first, I just reminded the men of accidents. In my last trip, I'll remember the wheels of a 24-pounder came unleashed. Nearly killed two men before we made it fast. We've had experiences of our own with the runaway guns, eh, Hoonblower? Yeah, sir. But repetition doesn't have harm. By all means, warn the men again. Yes, sir. Attention now, all hands. You can expect some warm work today, men. Before we roll a wheel or untie a single gun carriage, remember this. A loose cannon can be a dangerous thing. I advise you never to leave a gun without some tackle for the sports going on here, Mr. Wellard. Ah, a gun practice, sir. I received your permission, sir, if you'll recall. And Mr. Hobbs are acting gunner. What of him? He's only this instant arrived down here with me. Mr. Hobbs, where are you all? Where are you not informed of this exercise? I was not informed, sir. Indeed I wasn't. It was as much a surprise to me as it was to you, sir. Please, sir, I expect it was most in my fault. I looked for Mr. Hobbs when Mr. Buckland announced the drill. I looked from everywhere in the ship. I don't know. Sir, may I make a request? What is it? That you hear the midshipman answer. I feel certain that Mr. Wellard can explain it. Thank you, Mr. Hornblur. I don't require any explanation. You may be sure I've taken note of your insubordination, Mr. Wellard. Mr. Wellard, I believe, knows about beatings from past experience. Eh, Mr. Hobbs? I may perhaps let him off one on this occasion, but the next time that any sign of disobedience, Mr. Wellard, beware, briefed topsoils, the heavy seas of the Atlantic rose majestically to meet us. But discipline dropped low every day. You want to take in another reach, Mr. Bush, with your permission, sir? Hmm, yes. Oh, very good, Mr. Bush. Turn out both watches. Aye, sir. Wilson? Aye, sir. Better to do than to stand there merely watching, Mr. Hornblur. I'm sorry, sir. I was only waiting until my men reached their station in the midship, sir. All hands to reef topsoils. All hands. Now man those harriots and reef turkeys. Be quick about it. I think they're ready to haul now, sir. Yes, Mr. Bush, I have eyes. All of those reef tackles, men. Let's be lively. Those men at the main mast have seized trawling, Mr. Bush. Yes, sir. Something's wrong, apparently. They're in the waist. Who's that come commanding my order? Come here, Mr. Wellard. Come here this instant. Hey, you wish you an order without my permission. Sir, I-I sure am sorry. It was quite necessary. Well, no, Mr. Wellard. You'll be sorry for this young man. Mr. Wellard was merely doing his duty, sir. He was the first to notice what had happened. There's a reef point caught in the reef tackle block, weatherside. If the men had continued to haul, the sail would have been torn. There doesn't any least excuse, Mr. Wellard's accent. No, sir, if the sail had been damaged... Thank you, Mr. Hornblur. Well, there's no need for you to intervene between myself and the junior officer. It's useless to try to protect Mr. Wellard this time. Useless, Mr. Hornblur. This is my station, sir. I'm responsible for it. Kindly stand aside, Mr. Hornblur. And you too, Mr. Wellard. I'll deal with you in a few minutes. Do you hear me? Stand aside. I'll have no conspiracy aboard my ship. Aye, aye, sir. Stand aside with me, Mr. Wellard. Hello, Mr. Hobbes. Yes, sir. I am here, sir.  Oh, yes, sir. As you say. Ah, yes. Ah, yes. Quite beautiful too. Mounted with silver. Ringed every few inches by a large joint, I notice. Have you observed Mr. Hobbes' beautiful cane, Mr. Wellard? I have, sir. Pick the two studious of your mates, Mr. Hobbes. This young gentleman may need pilling down. Then take him into the main cabin there under the pope and see to it that justice is executing. But Captain Sawyer... Silence, Mr. Hornblur! Are you ready, Mr. Hobbes? I'm ready, sir. Take him away. I saw a cruel smile on the captain's face as the rest of us waited on the quarter deck. But if he hoped to hear a scream or cry from Wellard, he was disappointed. A quarter of an hour passed. The captain went to his cabin. And at last, Wellard came back again, walking stiffly. His face white and set and strained. There was compassion in Bush's eyes as the boy saluted him. I began to like Bush better than that moment. A savage business, Hornblur. That poor lad's been badly used. Oh, Captain Sawyer, sir, I didn't see you. We're still freshening, sir. Sir, I observe. Well, well, Mr. Wellard at work. Is he? Yes, sir, checking on our passage. Possibly, Mr. Wellard has learned better than to conspire against his captain. Lawfully said over him by his Majesty King George. You make no reply, Mr. Wellard. Oh, Mr. Hornblur is still here, too. Mr. Wellard seems to be sulking, Mr. Hornblur. I don't think so, sir. He probably didn't know what to say, sir. Perhaps Mr. Wellard's mind is dwelling on what lies behind him. Behind him, yes. All the good. Mr. Wellard? Yes, sir. Mr. Hobbs's cane did its work well, but possibly not well enough. We'll see. Sir, wind's coming off. Do you think perhaps another read? Don't interrupt me, Mr. Bush. Tell me the truth, Mr. Wellard. You sought to hold me up to the rich and before the hens, did you not? No, sir, indeed not. You and Mr. Hornblur together. You plotted a new plan, so that my lawful authority should be set at naught. No, sir. To make a figure of fun to undermine my influence of the crew. Confess, Mr. Wellard. Confess. No, sir, I didn't, sir. I swear it. Then who was it planned to catch that reef point in the reef tackle block? No one, sir. No one. Who put me to shame before both watches with every hand on deck? It was a deep-played plot. Answer me, Mr. Wellard. Or do you pretend to be so busy with that slate because you know your guilt? Sir, I get, Mr. Wellard, orders to test the glasses. That's all he's got. Thank you, Mr. Bush. I'll handle this. We'll get the truth out of this young conspiracy. Mr. Holmes! Oh, my God! Lay off! Yeah, Mr. Holmes! Oh, my God! Mr. Hornblur, sir. I like Mr. Wellard. Sir, you don't mean that you intend not against her. From now on, Mr. Hornblur, consider yourself on watch and watch around the clock till further orders. Aye, sir. Ah, there you are, Mr. Hawks. Take Mr. Wellard in charge again and summon your mates. We'll have him punished on death this time up for a day at the main mast. I'll have a confession out of him or I'll have it out of you or you'll jump overboard, Mr. Wellard. Take him in charge, Mr. Hobbs. Aye, aye, sir. I think I'll come with you this time to see that my orders are properly executed. Oh, no, we can't. Bush, remember, man. Captain's orders. Where are you going? Never mind. Don't ask and you'll never need to know. Captain Sawyer, sir. The gun is loose. What? Where? Below on the gun deck, sir. Did you hear it, sir? Bunking and plunging, too, in this here scene. I came as fast as I could. I hear it, too. Mr. Hawks, put down that cage and get below. Aye, aye, sir. Call the off-watch. Ring our canister. Hurry, you're acting kinder on to Mr. Hawks. Have they finally secured the gun? Yes, I think so. Why? Oh, well, I was only thinking. A lucky accident for young Wellard, wasn't he? Hobbs hadn't laid on many cane stakes before he had to run below. Yes, sir. I noticed that. And once young Wellard got out from underfoot, he appears to have been forgotten in the commotion. At least for the time being. At least for the time being. Most peculiar happening. Still, accident or not, a heart beat somewhere in that gun. What do you mean? A heart that was averse to a boy's suffering. I find it's better not to ask too many questions in this life, Hornblower. All the same. I wonder where you went to when you left this quarter deck. Do you, Bush? Well, we are friends, aren't we, Bush? Yes, it's better not to ask too many questions. Even of a friend.