yma, yn y ddiwrnod ar y gwaith, ar y blynedd, o'r syniad, i'w rhaid, o'r pethau y 20 o 14 o 18 o 18, ac mae'n ateb o'r dyfodol yma, iken o'r phefyd, o'r smith o'r 16 o 11 o. a llwyddo'n gŵr, mae'r llwyddo. Felly mae'n hwg. 20 o 26. Dwi ddim eisiau allwch i ddefnyddio i'w ddetwng. Rhyw oateb oedd oedd o teffrous. Mennydd i'n gwyboden nhw o'n cael y byd i ni, maen nhw'n cael i ti. Rwy'n cael eu bod yn cwbl o'r blaenau ar y busg. Rwy'n cael eu bod yn cael eu chylau. Rwy'n cael eu bod yn cwbl o'n cael eu bod yn cael eu chylau. Ond mae'r ddechrau cyd-ddechrau. Mae'r ddechrau, ond mae'n ddechrau. Mae'n dda i'r ddechrau, ond mae'n ddefnyddio'n ffordd i'r ddechrau. Rwy'n cael eu ddechrau! No, I'm OK, I've got my fisherman friend. I was surprised how much they offered. They offered me more than I asked for. Well, that's good. Well, so 120... 160. 160 is all right. My God, that's a jump. That's a lot of work coming from somewhere around. I want to talk to their recruiter. There's an investor behind it probably. Yeah, but you have to agree. If there's no investor behind it, there's no way you can keep it up. You know, the change is being, you know, the investment capture made. Yeah, housing and stuff. We're nearly 50 people at one year in the Netherlands. I mean, I wanted to grow up on the ground. We're around 65 people, I'm done. OK, yeah. I'm not sure how long I'll stay there. Don't say that's setting up a company yourself. Well, I've been contracting the last couple of years. I'm not quite sure I'm doing that. I'm going around the country. Yeah. I was over an island last year. So where do you live? I live in the middle of the Netherlands. Oh, I will. That's nice. Yeah. I lived four months with the extension in Dublin. Fine. And she was really a fantastic place to work. Yeah. It's supposed to be the most technically advanced building in Europe. There's 400,000 people living there. So I assume there's one or two people that know, probably. Yeah. It's considered like working in Holland or in Europe. Oh, it would work anyway. Yeah? It would. I'm not sure about having a wife to take it, but if I just wait around on the Friday evening, I'm on my way to Holland for six months. And how about remote working from Holland? Yeah. I'm not going into an office to be honest with you, but I do remote working as well. Oh, right. Yeah. I've got some given children, so I just have to bite myself away. Yeah. I have one degree at an office in the UK. Yeah. Why? You're going to love British humour. I lived in the UK for, I don't know, seven months at a time. For the first three months, people weren't taking the piss out of me at work.  Seriously, now you're taking the piss out of me. But then I found out, and then I came back and we tell you, you know, from different perspectives. Yeah. Ah, yeah, cool. All right, so what time should I start? In a minute. In a minute? Yeah. Okay, excellent. How are you doing now? They were probably quite awesome. We should start with them. All right. Cool. Hi. Cool. All right. Welcome, everybody. I shouldn't have the microphone on. Yep, no worries. Let me do this. I know everybody. You should see this. I can't do what I said this. Put it on. Nope. This? Do you want it right now? All right. Well, no. I'm just about to start. All right. Welcome, everybody. My name is Michelle Mabeldi. I'm going to give two talks today. One is about why Drupal needs marketing. And the other one later today is the five benefits of having a local Drupal community being organized as an association. They're a bit of interlink with each other.  And this is my firm belief for over the last 12 years. I am co-founder of Wanshu, an agency in the Netherlands. I started the Drupal community there 12 years ago. I'm a marketer by background. But I fell in love with Drupal. And I'm going to be completely honest here. I can't code at all. But I've been a major part of the Drupal community. And I'm very proud to be part of the Drupal Board Association Board. I'm standing here on a personal note, not on a board perspective. So this is my personal vision. I'm sharing with you not a vision from the Drupal Association. All right. Let me walk you through my presentation. When I started with Wanshu, I've also started organizing Drupal CEO events. And also the CEO network. And what we decided to do was to do a Drupal CEO survey. We've done it now for the last two years. And a lot of really cool information came out of it. So in 2017, we had a Drupal CEO survey. A lot of really cool information came out of it. So in 2017, we had 239 respondents, basically ranging from directors, management roles, working at Drupal companies. So yeah, it basically companies spanning from around the globe. So the interesting bit is that we got a lot of interesting results out of it. When you look, there's a geographic difference. 149 people, respondents from Europe. 91 from North America, a few from Asia and South America. And we're going to do this survey again this year. And we hope to see the numbers growing. So when you look at the services, those companies provider we're arranging from, of course, web development. But also support user experience, hosting mobile development. And most of the companies were, of course, digital agencies. But they're also software companies and a few marketing companies. And when we walked through it, some really good figures came out. We're quite proud to see that pipelines were growing, that the project's deal size was growing as well. And the project win rate was very good. But there's also some personal notes where we got out of the Drupal survey, which I'm going to share with you. Drupal will only compete successfully if there's a stronger focus on what the chief marketing officer wants from ACMS, the product. And community is timmy by programmer thinking. Drupal 8 compared to other platforms shows poorly. And that was one of the remarks that we got from it. And for those of you who were here yesterday, Megan from Drupal Association says, OK, we've been focusing for a long time now on programmers, but we also should focus on another person, basically another persona, which is the CMO, and basically what their needs are. And there is a different need. A programmer, yes, of course, they like the program, they like code, but they have not been focusing on what the CMO wants. So let's look at some other comments. The risk of losing momentum is there, unless great UX and update, up to date design gets the focus, WordPress is strong on those matters. This is also something that the Drupal Association board took out of it and says, OK, let's have a focus this year on getting our user experience a lot better. Because that's also something the CMO wants, and the content editor wants it. They increasingly competitive, however, we're seeing Drupal being head-to-head with Sidecore and Adobe. For the last 17 years, we all, as a community, have been working on Drupal and make it better, bigger and stronger. And it was actually Google who said, Drupal is probably one of the most mature open source projects on the market, and we should be very, very proud of that. And yes, we are facing competition from Adobe and from Sidecore, and I'll be going into that later on. So the future is good, and we should be proud of that, because we've all been working very hard on that one. So there's also some challenges ahead of us. OK, so before I go into the marketing bit, let's have a look at the bias journey. The previous presentation was about the bias journey, and as a company we've been focusing on the bias journey as well. So you have a customer journey, people tend to be becoming a customer, and then you should focus on retention and keeping those customers. But before that, there's a whole area in which potential clients are looking for a new CMS, or a new platform, or a new tool that helps them publish their content in a very rich way. So let's have a look at the bias journey. OK, this is a typical example of bias journey. It all starts with awareness, and we can create awareness as a Drupal community with infographic, with article, with viral videos, and a certain general optimization, and get them inspired, so they start learning about what Drupal is and what Drupal can do for their company. This is basically this demand generation. When we go to the second phase, that's the consideration phase. We start considering whether we should go for a site for Adobe, WordPress, or Laravel, or whatever solution. So this is where white papers, and webinars, and e-newsletters, reports, and e-books come in. We can start generating leads. We can do this as a community, but you can do it as an individual company as well. Then this is where you have to make a decision. Of course, we want them to make a decision for Drupal. Then you can organize Drupal camps, get them inspired in-person events, calculators, testimonials, and that kind of stuff. So basically from awareness all the way to decision that's nurturing and applying all the way into making that decision. So there's a lot of models on the internet, and then you can find if you start looking for it. Here it starts. People are strangers to you. There are people out there who are looking for a new CMS. We don't know them. We cannot identify them right now. We can reach them with articles and blog posts, and we can create awareness, and then they become visitors on the website, and you can create case studies and videos, and that will turn into leads, and from leads it will turn into customers, and if they're happy, that's the whole goal. Of course, we can create them, turn them into promoters and ambassadors, and then the cycle's around. Then you have to focus on retention that they will keep using Drupal for the rest of their lives. The Drupal Association has been sending out messages, we want to know who to focus on, because who do you target with what kind of content? That's basically what we call the persona. There are different personas out there, like the general manager and CEO, and he is the most important one. You know why? Because he's the guy who sets the signature. In the end, he decides. I can tell you stories about how we identify the content editor, content manager, marketing director, IT director, and they're all happy, and then suddenly the CEO says, no, I've got another agency I'm befriended with, and I want them to build it. Bama lost the client, lost the pitch. So the CEO, he's the guy who always sets the signature on the road, but you have the IT director who is an influencer, the marketing director, the content manager, the content editor, and there's a lot more to identify. And these personas have specific needs. So we have to tailor our stories to the needs of the different personas. You can do it as an agency, but we can do it as a community as well. And we should actually, because every persona has needs. I want to reach this. They have personal wishes. I have personal ambition from drawing from a content editor to becoming an operational manager. People have personal wishes and needs and stuff, and they have different authorities. They have different challenges within companies. They have different plans. So we need to tailor our stories to the needs in every step of the buyer journey. When you start thinking like this, that's a lot of stories we have to tell. Yes, we do, and that's all about content production. And so where's the challenge? That's basically the question we're talking about today. OK, so who knows the Gardner Magic Quadrant? OK, Gardner. It's an international organization that does a lot of research, paid research, a lot of paid research, but there's a lot of directors and CMOs. This is recorded, isn't it? There's a lot of CMOs, CTOs and CEOs who look at the Magic Quadrant and make their decisions. So when we look out there, we see a couple of familiar names. It's such a corner though we, they're the leaders, and there's Acria. Acria is most of it is Drupal. And this is my personal dream, but it's not possible, unfortunately, because we can't do it as a community. But how cool would it be if an open source CMS system would be up there in the leaderboard? We have to pay a lot of money. That's not possible, unfortunately. But it would be a cool dream. But when you look at the leaders, those are basically the guys who run the big projects. And is this interesting for developers? Yes, it is. Because the big projects have bigger challenges from a programming perspective. I've been telling this to my colleagues all the time. I want bigger clients. This is why we want bigger clients. Well, it's more challenging for you guys, because you can keep making websites for the bakery around the corner, but that's clicking and that's not cool. You want to be inspired and be challenged mentally. So where's the mental challenge? Well, it's up there. That's where the leaders are. Let me have a look at a quote from a current RFP I'm on right now. Within the CMS election, two important themes are central, namely personalizing and automating. Unfortunately, they already have chosen Drupal. Do you just want to clarify the RFP's request for a proposal? Sorry? RFP, RFP. Oh, sorry, request for a proposal. Yes. It's a request for a proposal. There's a large international company that have approached us with an RFP. They want a proposal. They send us a stack of paper about this big and they have chosen Drupal. Yeah. We're there with three Drupal agencies now competing to win the RFP, but they want personalization and they want automating. When personalization comes up, I'm like, okay, this is what Drupal doesn't have yet. We're not good at that. We have AcriaLift. Yes, so we can combine it with AcriaLift, but the Drupal community does not provide tooling to do so. Okay. Several funnels can be set. CMS includes marketing automation. Okay. So we can connect with HubSpot and external tooling. That's all possible. Yeah. But here you see the wishes from the CMO. Can Drupal deliver this out of the box? I can't expect it. Not really. Okay. So there's a challenge. So the next one, you know, Adobe. So I'm taking this presentation from two perspectives. Why Drupal needs marketing from a marketing perspective. Yeah, we have to promote ourselves and from a tooling perspective. So to get things straight. You got a question? I think it's one of the strengths of Drupal that it doesn't provide information and personalization. You can play the cards that have the best of breed solution. True, but out of the box, they want a out-of-the-box solution a lot of times. So there is a need. We don't fulfill yet. And now I'm going to look at Adobe. Okay. So this is Adobe Experience Manager. This is the console management system. And the way they state it is, allows you to create, personalize, manage and optimize online customer experiences. It's all about personalization. And I've been to an Adobe conference. And the things they can do, if you combine all their toolings, it's not just Adobe Experience Manager, but also Experience Cloud and stuff. That's amazing. It is truly amazing. When you look under the hood, because we've been looking under the hood at the code level, not so good. So it's not built as clean and proper as Drupal is. But I can understand why Nike now has chosen, for Adidas, sorry, for Adobe. But I want to, and I see it as a challenge, if we can create more tooling around Drupal, so we can provide and service these clients as well, that Adobe is currently doing. And the way they present themselves is a website. It's really clean. Make delivering great digital experiences look easy. So yeah, content backbone as agile as accessible as it is robust. OK, so have a look at Sidecore. Sidecore enables brands to provide contextual, personalized, relevant experiences that immediately lead to results through every channel and every form of communication. When I'm a CMO, I'm thinking, wow, that's cool. Let's have a chat with them. OK, so this is basically how their website looks like. And they're very proud that they show the Gardner list as well. And this is Drupal. Launch, manage, and skill ambitious digital experiences with the flexibility to build great websites and push beyond the browser proudly for open source. OK. Does this tailor the need from a CMO yet? No. And fortunately yesterday, the DA gave a presentation, Megan says, OK, we have to change. And the way we look at Drupal.org. Because when you look at Drupal.org, you know, is that basically, OK, this is me from a marketeer perspective. You know, and this is a personalized presentation to be held on. OK, so Drupal, I'm a marketeer. I'm finally at Drupal.org. I said, OK, you know, I'm looking for personalization. I can't find it. And OK, so we have critical multiple vulnerabilities in core. OK. And it's available for testing. There's a release for testing. It's not ready yet, isn't it? Is it me being totally blunt and honest here? You know, we're not telling the story the CMO wants to hear. I know I'm blunt. You know, I'm Dutch and Dutch can be blunt. You know, sorry. But that's me from a marketeer perspective looking at Drupal.org. Our famous Drupal.org. Do they play the video? Well, that's another thing. No personal comment on that one. OK, so this is Drupal.com. It's getting better. Yes. Did your experience platform that knows your web content much more built so you can deliver the right content to the right person at the right time? OK, and the right devices. This is a bit like four years ago, you know, what we should have promised four years ago. So we need to change. And Drupal needs marketing in different ways. OK, and now I'm getting even more blunt. OK, let's have a look at local presence. The way local communities present themselves, you know, because there's a lot of developers out there that present themselves, you know, through communities and personal initiatives, which I like, which is great. But I want to basically give some insights on, OK, how to tailor the needs of, you know, a broader range of personas. This is the message I want to tell you. OK, so I had to put this slide in. Please don't blame the messenger because the message could be unpleasant. So don't blame me. This is when I went to Drupal.co.uk. And yeah. So, OK, no comment. This is Germany presenting themselves. This is the Drupal community presenting themselves. This is one of the websites you will land on. But this is another one. I've been giving this presentation in Germany and, you know, the German Drupal community at first was not really happy that I presented it this way. But, you know, it made them click and now they're rethinking the way they're going to present themselves. I've been working on the Dutch community and this is what I like. You know, but it's a new standard for creating great digital experiences for small companies, multinationals and everything in between. Not entirely true anymore. You know, we're not, Drupal is not for smaller companies, but for mid and everything and larger. So this is a template that's now being transferred to Germany. Really cool. You know, we're going to share this template in Germany so we have a broader way of providing ourselves. In Spain they like to present camps, you know, not talking about what Drupal can do for you. This is France, you know. So also community focus, talking about events, not about what Drupal can do for you. This is Italy. This is, yeah, no comment. So we need a call for action, guys. This is basically what I wanted to share with you. If we want to attract new developers, you know, if we want to attract major clients, you know, to do the really exciting work, we have to change our message. We have to change the way we look at our local presence. So I'm trying to kick off a new initiative, a few new initiatives here. The second presentation later today will be about that as well, going more in depth into the community bit. But this is the first one. I'm not a techie, so I have no idea what technology has to be, what the technical perspective has to be involved. But let's start a personalisation initiative. Let's do so. So we can actually focus on the CMO and their specific needs. Otherwise, we will lose the battle. Okay, and why do I say this? There are now cloud CMSs on the rise, which have personalisation stuff already in them. All you have to do is create a really nice, cool front-end-book react, and you use the cloud CMS, and you have all your personalisation tooling in it, and you're done. So why should we do Drupal? Because we love Drupal, and we want to work with Drupal, but there's no personalisation. So let's see, I'm not a coder, so I don't know how to kick it off, but let's see how we can start kicking off a personalisation project. Have you got a quick addition? Okay. Basically, when I come onto a website, I am not a registered user. I'm an anonymous user. I can identify the person with cookies and stuff, and then when I leave the website, I can track the person with the cookie, and I can do some ads targeting, you know, Facebook targeting, or lots of targeting possibilities. And then I can inspire the person, and then when he comes back on the website, I can show other content. So basically, specifically personalised content for his specific needs, because we know we've been tracking that person through his bias journey. So, yeah, so it will be cool to create an open-source project on this one. I don't know how, but if somebody has an idea, let's start a discussion. Okay, let's form local associations in every single country. This is what my next presentation will be about. I won't go into depth too much unless I will give my presentation. So, if you see that in France, in Spain, in Italy, in Germany, everybody is telling a different story with a different website, with different templates. There's no uniformity in the way we present ourselves. And when I start googling, you know, I want to have one message to be delivered across all channels. So, and then we have to start targeting and focusing on the different personas. Could be finance, HR, could be the CMO, the CTO developers. Developers, developers, developers, yes, we need developers. So, yes, we tailor, basically, our content. And the interesting bit is that we've been sharing code all over the world. But we haven't been sharing, basically, templates and marketing material in the way we present ourselves across the globe. So, we're now sharing the Dutch template to Germany. But, you know, I don't know, if we can share that also with France and Italy, and then we have the same website all over, and we start pitching in and start making that website better, and then, for example, in France, somebody writes a really cool article for the CMO. All we have to do is translate it in the Netherlands and Germany, et cetera. We have a brilliant way and we can, you know, draw our market share and draw the community. So, let's start sharing content and share our marketing initiatives. And that will lead to uniformity in presence and basically the promotion of Drupal. So, in the Netherlands, we have a standardized website. We organized the Splash Awards. I don't know if you've heard about the Splash Awards. It's an award show for the best Drupal projects in a country, and it's awesome, I can tell you that. And it's a hilarious evening. Clients will come in to join the Splash Awards and see if they've won a prize.  I can tell you a story about... We won a Splash Awards for work we've done with Drupal for DHL, parcel in the Beninox. You know, we're really proud that we were the only country actually in the world that didn't run on Adobe because DHL globally was working on Adobe. So, we went in Drupal. So, we created a new website, a new way of thinking, a new way of designing. You know, actually focusing on B2B, business to business and business to consumer. And we won an award with that, a Splash Awards. Yeah, we organized it ourselves, yeah, and we had an independent jury looking at all the projects coming in, and we won an award, so we're really cool. And we got into the global newsletter of DHL, and suddenly England says, I want a website like that, and Spain says, I want that website. And suddenly all over Europe, we're like, yeah, we want a website like that. And the funny thing is, is that we are now working on a global standardized look and feel of the websites and the new websites that will be built in Drupal as well. So, this is really cool. And how did that happen? It goes on a Splash Award. So, this can, and it's cool to have an award as well. I can tell you that. All right. This is what I said already. Okay, let me have a look. Okay, so we organized, Splash Awards, we do training days. We promote tech talks, promotion of camps, and other events. And we can professionalize the Drupal presence in each market. So, yeah, the Dutch Drupal Association are sharing the website with the German Drupal Business Eval. And let's start a discussion on this one, on how we can roll out a standardized way of promoting and marketing ourselves throughout Europe. Okay, and this is what I said already. Yeah, we have to tailor the message to the need of personas and serve them whilst in the buyer's journey. And, yeah, content should be globally amongst local associations and tailored to countries' needs. There's no way we can deliver one message which is not tailored locally. You know, we have over, how many countries we have in Europe? 40 or something? A lot. They all have specific needs. So, yeah, definitely you should tailor it. But we can do so if every country has a local association. Yeah, and I'm going to tell you in my next presentation what the benefits are of having a local association. So, basically going back, this is my conclusion. Drupal needs marketing from two perspectives. One from a technology perspective, but also from the way we present ourselves as a community. And, yes, we've been focusing on developers, which is good. You know, we're one of the biggest communities in the world. We're very much mature now. But there's a new range of personas we have to focus on. And I would like to challenge you all to see how we can set up local associations and tailor our communication to the specific needs of both those personas. Thank you very much. Any questions? And sort of leading the community over there. Cool. So we have UNC students, we arrived, present Drupal with them, and it's a lot of fun convincing things for Drupal. Cool. Hard to do it at the same time. Yeah. So, recently, White House has flown away from Drupal. Yeah, with it? It has been a sort of nightmare for Drupal that is right. It's hard to answer the question now. Because that was the first thing I would present, that the human White House is in Drupal. So the only answer I know of is that now their website is less functional. So how to defend this question, especially where a country, where work place is really much in? Maybe I should turn off my microphone now because I can make a political statement. There's a new guy in the White House. I'll leave it to that. Okay. So the second thing is that look at other companies, like Pfizer, for example. Their global stack is built with Drupal. That's even more impressive than the White House. Yes, the White House being attacked, but every major company gets attacked anyway. So the thing is from a security perspective, the White House was really cool. Was it that complex? I think there are more complex projects in the world that run on Drupal. So when we look at the showcases we have, White House is one of a million, and there are, to my believe, better projects to convince the people you're talking to. Does that answer your question? Yes, it is. We talk about the importance of maintaining the developer community, and there's a lot of energy behind that. What you're saying is there needs to be a binary divide between that and marketeers, right? We have to put it on top. My question is, doesn't the developer base grow organically to begin with? Shouldn't there be all throttles going towards the uncharted territory? How does that work? To my believe, we definitely should not put all throttles on the CMO. Definitely not, because if you... You can't win right in that space, or you're only in that direction. Of course you can't win if you do if you're good. It's not about winning, it's about growing. And yes, we should focus and still focus on growing the developer community as well. Yes, there are new faces here, but I see also a lot of familiar faces. We should be aware that we should not be aging as a community, so we need new developers coming in. Why? Because they bring in new ideas. I have quite a few young hipster developers who bring in new energy. At first, they were like, OK, I want to work with React, and I want to work with Angular and all the... And then there's Cloud CMSs, and yes, it's so cool and it's hipster and stuff. And then we started looking at, OK, but hey, you can combine React with Drupal. And then I was getting interested, hey, it is a robust... Yeah, not this clunky CMS or Cloud CMS, which is not within the GDPR ruling and stuff, et cetera. No, this is kind of cool, so we basically taught them that working with Drupal in combination with new technology is very cool. Do we do this as a community already? Not yet. So if we can focus and tailor that story towards the new developers who are coming fresh out of high school or university, yeah, that's a challenge for us as well. My business is in the process of rebranding. And I guess my question is how can we as individual people and businesses change our message to fit in with the new initiative for the community? So that's... OK, this is an interesting question. I don't know your company. I don't know what is it you want to achieve. But if you start looking at the buyer's journey or the customer journey, as they say it, then you start looking at the specific needs of your potential customers. I don't know what your target audience is. Let's say your target audience is companies within the logistics area like DHL, Marsk, the bigger freight shipping companies. You should identify the needs of the CMO of DHL or Marsk or whatever. And then you start looking, OK, how am I going to present myself? One suggestion, though, don't focus on one vertical. Focus on more because if the economy hits one vertical, your company gets hit. So broaden your horizon. If you want to talk about it later on, just let me know. Cool. So you were talking about sharing, getting a more consistent message out and sharing stuff. And that means you need some sort of overview, governance. And is that something that you think the Drupal Association would do? Given that they would kind of know what others are doing because it's otherwise pretty difficult to coordinate. Or is it something like the Drupal Business Alliance? How would they fit into that? Well, the good thing is that I'm part of the Drupal Association Board now and I'm in the governance committee. So I'm bringing in this message. I've just told them. I don't know if they're going to adopt it because it's my personal vision. I hope they will. So what they can do is they can orchestrate it. You know, they are like... The Drupal Company is basically the band and the association is orchestrating it. They can't create all the material themselves now. So my belief, I think, for example, the way we do it in Europe now is that Holland starts sharing with Germany and Germany is already sharing the way they organize the special works with Denmark. So we started sharing already. Co-ordinating the same message has something I think the Drupal Association should do. We are already talking about ambitious projects from the Drupal Association. So how can we basically share this message across the globe? I don't think... They don't need to be responsible for all the content, but say in the UK we come up with some really good messaging aimed at CMOs and all the rest of that. And if we want to share that, how do we do that? The same we share code. We're just going to cope with distributing. Well, I think we should... I'm not sure yet, but I think the way we share code we'd be putting on Drupal.org and then we start sharing. So if we have maybe a separate section on Drupal.org in which we can share our ideas on this subject, it's open for everyone to grab. And that would be interesting. Yeah, so maybe one way of doing it.  I'm part of the board now for a couple of weeks, so I'm relatively new. But this is one of the ways. And I think Drupal.org should be in the central place, which is anyway very willing to put that. So there's one point that you mentioned what's missing on this variety of sites is call to action. And there's one key problem that I'm aware of that this is sometimes at a big stage in some local communities. If you were to do call to action, what would it be? And of course after that call to action there's a commercial interest. Can you talk a bit more about how you would see this working in local community that's not one company? It's very easy. It calls one of their sales people. Who gets input in touch when someone goes to Drupal.co.uk? Yeah, that's a question we had. Okay, I'm going to give away my next talk. I'm going to ask you a question. Please join my next talk anyway. What we did in the Netherlands, I started the Dutch Drupal Business Foundation. At the time the local foundation was sleeping while we were organizing a camp called the Drupal Jam, but not doing marketing at the time. So we created the Dutch Drupal Business Foundation and we had ruling. So what we're going to do is we create a website and every participant who was paying money to the association, that money was used for visiting events and promoting Drupal, so had Drupal booth. Really cool. Suddenly we were next to Adobe and Cycora and they were looking at how can you guys be here? You're open source. But we united as a community. Oh wow, that's scary. Yeah it was for them. We handed out flyers. So we talked about what Drupal was and it was really cool. And then we handed out a flyer and all logos were on it. So we had to randomize all the logos, randomize them and then and they were on the flyer. So we handed out a flyer. No business cards were given away. I was not allowed when I was standing on the ground, I was not allowed so that I was from one shoe. No, I was representing Drupal at the time. We were very strict on that. If other companies would visit the booth, they were not allowed to hang around with their own business cards. It was basically solely growing the awareness around Drupal and it was not growing your business. Because business would come anyway. If you grow the pie, business will come to you anyway. That's the whole idea and that's how we did it. So if you have a call to action, one of the call to action could be download a white paper about Drupal and this is the marketplace and please find your vendor over there. That could be a white paper. What I'm thinking is like if you're comparing this to the kind of experience that you have for example with Adobe addresses in the example where you go there and then you put your email address and then there's the whole personalization the kind of things that flyers tend to expect. And that's the work like having the seller be proactive and that's something that can be a bit difficult. I don't know if there are agency owners here. You can put this on your own website.  Of course on Drupal.org we cannot. Adobe is working with vendors themselves. So they have a wide range of vendors they're working with. So yes, they're generating leads for those vendors. It could be a model we can look into from a Drupal satiate perspective but it's getting on the commercial side and I'm like I don't want to go into that area. Because I don't want a situation where those who pay the most get the most leads. No, this is not open source. There's no way I will vote for that. But basically directing them to a marketplace and those who share the most code etc. are on top. So then you get a model which is to my belief fair. So it should be a fair model for all of us. You see vendors that support Drupal participating in this. Not agencies, not images users but vendors on the outside that support Drupal. That would be awesome. Is there a call to action for the vendors you would say? Well there is a last night we organised the agency leader dinner and I was walking home had a bit of too much wine in my body and you get creative walking in the snow in London. I came up with the idea there's two ways we can approach it. We can also ask if the larger clients like a fighter etc. if they want personalisation let's chip in sponsoring X amount of money. But then we have to write out an RFP which agency is getting the deal to write and to write the code for the personalisation tool. Or it should be a shared or a combined experience. This was late at night with a couple of wines in my head. But this is something we should look into. I think that the vendors the actual end users like the larger companies if they can chip in fighter have been donating X amounts of hours and money and dollars already in Drupal which is fantastic. But if we can create an initiative global initiative in terms of personalisation yeah definitely awesome. So that would be your recommendation to pick a topic so we can sponsor events which would be code and those things but you're saying maybe a vendor to take on a position to drive it. Oh yeah, if this happens wow that would be awesome. Very awesome. It could serve the global community big time. Well the community serves us as well. It's like Brian was talking about this morning how you find a way to increase your way to do that. And just curious if you've had thoughts around that. Cool. When we say Drupal is huge for huge websites, right? Promoting Drupal. There's always a question asked of me that is how long budget wise, right? So do you know for some Drupal websites which are top level budget wise? I know one which is a Canada city website. There is a city website in Canada and it's one million dollar site. So promoting Drupal and then mentioning budget of that particular website is a key also. Do you know such websites? Well I've no idea but I know Ffizer is running all their websites on Drupal and I think that's a bit more than a million plus they've invested. I think but I'm not aware of the budgets of the big companies but I know there's some global companies that use Drupal. I I never used that argument for convincing my clients. I can tell you a story on how I convinced one client it was a logistics company and they wanted a new website and we got the pitch brief and stuff and I was looking at it and we had to deliver an offer on Friday and it was Wednesday. It's like okay you know we got this piece of paper here and I just had to call the client and he says okay could you please tell me what the business case is behind the website and the general answer when I asked that question is always uh uh so it was a business case. It says what do you mean by business case? Well you're investing X amount of money for return on investment. He said never thought about it can you help me if I can. So I came up with the idea. I knew I imagined that this logistics company would get in a lot of telephone calls you know because of people where's my package and what time will be delivered etc. So I imagine they had a thousand calls each day. So what it was was that they integrated the website that could lower those calls by a 10%. So 100 calls less each day. So I'm aware of what happens within call centers and the average call cost is between 6 and 8 euros. So 100 calls a day less would save them and I was making 800 euros a day times 7 times 52 and I made them an offer for a website which was costing 50,000 euros.  He says the one thing is it's not 8 euros it's 6 euros per call and maybe if we can create a website with an FAQ on it and serving all the needs of those callers we can lower it even more. I got the deal. So I'm not talking about numbers now I'm talking about the business case. This is interesting. So when you look at a request for proposal and when you start looking at a business case how can we make money with this investment? It's a different approach. But that can be interesting. Cool. Any more questions? I'm a copywriter. I don't know how to code and I also do marketing here. So the thing is I always try to explain to my customers that we need to showcase the benefits of the business and maybe that would be something that Drupal should do. Show the benefits not the features because we are showing the features which is great for developers. We have a great community and all but we're not showing how the world or how the company could benefit from Drupal. In our personal presentation we give to our clients we have showcases.


YouTube what's up man this is an emergency podcast it is Wednesday the day before draft champion single elimination man so the brackets were just released it's crazy news everybody's looking at everybody's drafting their team to see how good their team can be it's also a way for us to look at the bracket see the great games they're going to pop up in the first round already a handful of games that I'm excited to talk about in the first round there we can definitely go through them or look at both the PlayStation bracket and the Xbox bracket some of these people I don't know who they are some of these people I mean obviously their own creep name so there's somebody else so we'll see how many people I know how to recognize and also who I think has an easy road who I think has a difficult road you can comment below you can talk in the chat if you're in a twitch chat and then that's pretty much I mean what we're going to do you know so this is pretty much the bracket let me tell you guys we're going to take a look first one take a look at play at Xbox Xbox is probably the deeper bracket I believe PlayStation kind of has a little more strength at the top but Xbox is definitely deeper man you're talking about 20 to 30 goons where I feel like PlayStation probably only 10 goons something like that so let's take a look at like I said we want to start with what Xbox Xbox definitely is deeper it's definitely deeper I definitely believe that Xbox is a deeper a deeper all that's not where I want to put that man you guys I fully believe Xbox is a deeper has more deeper competition for real I'm not biased I just feel it's it's the better system you know that's just we're just going to leave it there I'm not going to argue about Xbox a place that's not what we're here to do I mean I believe Xbox has more belts but you know I'll leave that to you guys you know that are you dead and it's which in the YouTube comment man you think Xbox is stronger or do you think you know PlayStation is stronger but anyway this is where we want to start this is the Xbox bracket it's pretty crazy obviously scheming I'm assuming was number one scheming bam some of you guys know him he I believe made the man challenge last year I want to say and scheme has always been a pretty good player man definitely a runner somebody that wants to you can definitely probably use a lot of different playbooks man he freestyles a lot I think he's going to be too difficult to knock out this guy goku blue I have no idea who this is the 128th ranked dude it was probably the 96th ranked dude on draft champions leaderboard so definitely I can give an edge to the number one seed right there Teflon down one big F Teflon I think I played but these guys you know thanks for that I'm hope you all enjoy your experience man I would assume this dude Teflon can be big F01 we'll see maybe big F is a creep chat let me know it's big at the creep who is big F shout out to Corda with the sub man I appreciate you big F Teflon down who do y'all like in that matchup I have no idea then this is a good game to me man this is a good game Jack Oregon and Jay Wolfman we saw Jay Wolfman play strafing in the Minnesota Vikings finals and strafing went on to you know become the runner up in the whole club championship division so Wolfman is definitely he's definitely a good player I like the way he played in that tournament game I like the way he freestyle I think he had a good understanding for passing the ball I think he can definitely uh uh Jay Wolf is definitely somebody that can definitely pop up but I play Jack Oregon a lot I think Jack Jack Oregon is a decent little player I think he's a player that can definitely make some noise so I think this is an intriguing underrated first round matchup um so I would love to watch this game obviously and I told you guys on the real podcast last night that I think streaming drag champion's game would be terrible but you know I hope some people do but this is a very intriguing game so far is the best game I've seen in this first round on the Xbox side rarely then MF it's Santa 801 Tiger I don't know who these guys are God bless them uh Dulce LG play them in weekend league I wasn't too impressed people say he beats a lot of people so he's definitely been like a weekend league type uh decent player and I believe he's number 16 right because no 16 was probably just from weekend league really because you see scheming is one number two would be weekend league number three would be uh the brackets and number four would be weekend league so Dulce might be from weekend league I don't think anybody qualified the weekend league is going to be prepared to make a running draft champions I'll tell you right now I will never pick a weekend league qualifier over somebody that grinded the leaderboards I don't care if they finish 96 or they finish one of the leaderboards I will take the leaderboard grinder over the weekend league dude nine times out of ten weekend league is nothing like draft champions period but but Dulce obviously is probably the favorite in this game but I've never seen the tag um swag I've played hella uh Xbox so that could be a creep for all we know problem against map to Nathie I don't know chat man if there's somebody here man let me know that if this dude is any tough uh and how does it better work it's out of these eight people who makes when did they make it to the level the final eight when does it become groups you have to win three games I really don't understand how it works to the point where it's like damn now we're in groups like are is this whoever makes out of these 16 people does that go to groups or does it make it out of these eight go to groups so that that's pretty much where I'm thinking what if you win three games you make it to groups my man's jump the radiant might pop but uh so out of the eight out of this eight yeah wolf man or scheming scheming is definitely okay out of that eight yeah wolf man scheming I like I said Jack isn't a bad bad player but that's a pretty favorable bracket if I mean ask him and she gets his number one seed definitely a favorable bracket right there then you want to go down to the next eight these next eight you got to see I mean and you talk about favorable problem got ahead of most favorable unless he slips up against this dose guy man but this is just this this looks super favorable for problem right now honestly uh where we at yeah you got to take problem to come out of this he definitely got a favorable situation here I said I don't know who this is on the where it is on the who none of these guys M key it's like I've seen before but problem definitely gonna I problems want to make a run honestly and EA just fixed this so problem can make a run don't be confused and yeah out of that eight one two this is four this is eight I mean you got to pick problem without a doubt problem bang yeah but problem still problem I don't care how much fortnight he plays he's not losing I mean let's just got those I don't know who he would lose to you know oh I don't think problems want to win he's not a problem I'm gonna win the tournament if you get into that point like problem definitely played a lot of fortnight for him to win the whole tournament but I definitely think he's going to get out of this eight like this is like but anyway yeah I definitely would pick problem and come out of this eight um the next group eight that I've played this person a little bit you guys just said bg fam is pretty good k mac obviously a pretty good player uh little man the night man mad rule this is little man's to lose this eight right here definitely probably little man honestly and last year I'll tell you this is about little man little man is really tough on draft champions man he really is and if he got a decent little book I think he can make a run obviously he's already locked to the ultimate leader the man bowl so for clef um you know I want we all want little man to really pop up and for skimbo to make obviously we want this guy to I mean you know what I mean yeah I think little man definitely going to be the best and at the same time you think about k mac when k mac was popping in uh salary cap he was running spread or something with corner routes and he's not going to find that in dc so to me I got it I got to get the edge right here to little man in this eight right here but I fully believe it to be little man versus k mac boom right there then we go who is sewing boom I don't think it's rage is the other creek name isn't he I don't know who that is but this is I played this person before Marchman I'm assuming this is Henry but Henry I don't think Henry is uh old enough to play I don't know chat so oh sewing boom is rage okay I know it was it's another tag we'll get to when you guys got something that is Marchman isn't that's how maybe it's just from weekend league yeah that's a weekend league account so maybe he just qualified and he's just going to play I don't know what happened really no I just got just started this is xbox nimi and comfy door is another good game comfy is like comfy is not good but he can play nini nini should win this game and I don't know what the marksman I think Henry is too young yeah so Henry uses account but is the marksman going to play in the tournament I don't know how that works you know what I mean that's a little funny and we'll see maybe Henry pops up for the kid and then the kid gets to go to the live event who knows but now I heard one of these names is T. Davis I don't know which one chat so where were we at where we at with our four right here this is this is a four and this is a eight I mean this is rage rage and nini one of these guys that's going to be a tough match of their rage and nini I think I probably go with nini nini's a real unique player can really freestyle really good run a lot of different things that really helps in draft champions yeah it's cerebral is that all right so now we're out of that that four now we got cerebral victory one of these guys is T. Davis I'm assuming I saw I heard so Dante Cole pepper is is T. Davis I don't know one of these I don't know but tackling squid obviously Joe Rice man Joe Rice is tough but the last time we saw Joe Rice running a lot of route comes a lot of you know Randy Moss and Tyree killing them so we'll see how he plays in draft champions draft champions is a war it is a battle and we'll see how he works out net the first live event Joe Rice made was draft champions so we'll see and then we got a team Elijah Lord kill shot master chef if I look at this is probably one come between I mean between whichever one of these names is T. Davis and Joe Rice really Cole pepper is that's T. Davis while what a name all right so then we'll go down to this one which is I think is is pretty tough really uh Boogs obviously my guy he's going to go ahead and play um Big George that's a tough first round match up and Big George isn't the best player but he's definitely better than we look we know who he is as opposed to half of these names we don't know who are I'd rather have one of them so Big George is a tricky first round match up for Boogs but Boogs is playing well right now Boogs definitely uh we've been playing a lot lately and he's definitely playing pretty good so he's on top of his game so I expect him to make a run then Rojas Rojas versus D. Croft I don't know if D. Croft is amazing man I don't know they I keep hearing about all this all his stick work and everything but I fully expect him and Boogs to battle it out right here and we'll see what happens uh the Joker CPAP these dudes I don't know are these guys anybody chat let me know if one of these guys is tough the Joker CPAP or some uh I don't know who these guys are you guys let me know Timmy turn her Timmy turn her like are these creeps or are these just guys Timmy turns her this is V tech no this is V tech okay so this is I mean between Boogs D. Croft V tech Joker is good mayhem talk to me then we come down here and honestly this is the probably this is probably the toughest group of eight that that you can get really this is probably the toughest group of eight that's that you can put together really because I believe flip flip these things are popping and my lion that's what I heard that's popping but then you got J. Wal whose solid as hell but J. Wal is good I don't know why we just put forward in the group with pop and J. Wal and Clef and obviously Clef and this is stickwork right here so stickwork is not going to be terrible drag is in here this is drag hold up is whisko play a drag well when did drag when did drag get on a creep Jesus no if drag drag is cat lover pro cat lover all right this eight right here is hell in a cell then holy shit but obviously we want to pick Clef to come out of this no this is the toughest eight dude you got one two three four club series winners four club series winners in this no wait one two yeah the four club series winners stickwork been to a live event and then you got fart here who fart ain't terrible who was low man let's shout out to low man and whisko player this is a tough as eight that's a tough eight obviously we're picking Clef to god is low man hell low man hell get the hell out all right but we don't even ask me we're picking Clef uh i picked jay waterway and he gonna lose the clef on a last second dot then uh who else we gonna have uh i fart ain't bad but i would pick drag and then poppin and then but uh clef won't be popping but anyway now we're going to down here who we get to who's group and y'all come who could creep out of this group oh man there's eight right here uh it's not the worst draw chat it's not the worst draw like seriously is i don't think it's the worst draw i think he can fight i don't think he's got any killers in his group right right spence is a guy i'm and i will tell you this as a seawoo as a seawoo watcher spence kicks this shit out of wool all right but this is what spence is definitely a person you see on on the on the leaderboards but i'll tell you this i really think and obviously you have some serious who we talked about this last night on the podcast really we talked about on the podcast about how you play against your rights got cheated out of win really but he was running something a little bit different that's not in every book so some series is definitely he's definitely a challenge but i feel like we can get out i feel like we can win these two games now we go down here team more has always been a decent player i think team or to get out of these four i think we'll i'm not going to pick them chat but i think he actually can fight out of this eight do y'all agree or disagree but i really think we can fight out of this eight it's not it's not the it's not the toughest eight of all time but we'll see i can't wait i heard there's a rumor he might come back to twitch but i i i yeah i just this i feel like we can fight i we can fight this but we want to see let's go out of that eight but we was gonna fight next one we go with snap war daddy Vilma and i told Vilma this man Vilma's got a easy draw i don't know who is we are mad who is this person i don't know who this person is we are mad in 826 Vilma said he beat him before i don't know who this person is but i'll tell you are these guys anybody fame nate orally award daddy obviously want to cheese cookie crisp problem who's problem child i don't know who problem child is snap i i just don't know snap is not being Vilma there's no chance that Vilma loses the snap on it a rock combo there's no chance that Vilma loses the snap on it oh we're not oh oh that's that's what he does jay wall okay just flips and runs yeah Vilma's not losing it okay now we ain't nervous he built for this but so i told him where they man you got nice draw we'll see what his teams like man see he's ready to go but i fully expect him to move out of this if he plays half as good as he can man then we go down to the next i'm too much a name that's been around the leader boards forever like this is this is pretty much he's been around the leaderboards forever five cam i don't really know much about halo hunter these guys these guys are creeps let me know rozo coming to you live i actually lost to rozo like two days ago it might have been yesterday oh that's who is relaxing it that's it lane who's lane sci is not a bad player really sci is a sci is a really good player uh i don't know what l chapel is but uh you got akg here lane is weak and league guy okay yeah so akg why definitely between akg and sci that's the i'm too much has always been a decent player though he's not terrible uh so and a rozo coming to you live he might go ahead and pop up to so but as akg's or sci is to lose that one then we go down here to the next one we got skins if that's the same skins alan uh fancy deliverance this is a nice uh sneaky decent eight right here obviously you have alan skins is pretty decent player man then you got fancy who's part of the little kid clan and deliverance uh two times still is club champions this is a decent little decent little one man i'm saying so we'll see if if if the tnc guys can lab out fancy and get him where he's playing really tough uh so we'll see i really uh obviously i feel like alan will come out at us for sure then we go down to the next one uh i don't know who these creeps are obviously monkey the weak and league uh leader i feel like you guys don't like monkey is monkey like the new eagles nation which one's manu is this manu baby yaga baba yaga oh this is manu oh damn monkey yeah monkey it's been real i mean i really feel like monkey is the new eagles nation i really do i feel like you guys kind of hate monkey i mean he's definitely a little weird honestly he's definitely a little weird but i mean who knows uh dad yogurt lurk this guy is i mean just leaderboard guy uh i don't know if he's any like is he any of you guys friends like are you guys anybody friends with this dad yogurt lurk guy i feel like he plays problem all the time yeah so i don't know i don't know if anybody that well j wall that seems like it was one of your homies that's definitely a j walls that's one of j wall's friends in real life so he also looks like he's seven years old okay is that where's my eight that i came on monkey manu that's a tough little game love to watch that one man it sucks that you know i'm gonna watch all these games and prime time 50 g is these whose auto strafe on i mean we could definitely do streams all day tomorrow but we'll see man yeah monkey seems pretty cool but he's definitely a little weird like he's socially awkward that's how i put it salty this is you oh my god never mind prime time 50 g wins by 50 um old opponent 82 whose old opponent 82 yo let me tell you something about let me tell let's let's pause this breakdown i want to talk about the creep names for a little bit because a lot of y'all like there's people like let me tell you guys something chat like there's reasons why i understand why kib has a creep name or why skimbo has a creep name but there's no way that salty or the rest of y'all guys should have a creep like there's no way y'all should have creep names y'all don't deserve to have a creep name you have to like be you know what i mean people are not looking to see what salty does or where salty ranked on the leaderboards some people can't have a creep name like for real like it just it just it goes too far man like honestly akg shouldn't have a creep name rage shouldn't have a creep name like for real there shouldn't be this many creep names there shouldn't like y'all not good enough y'all not innovative enough to have a creep name period nobody cares when you're playing nobody cares what you're running nobody cares about your shit ass defense that everybody else runs anyway you're not doing shit that people can steal and they don't care where you are on a leaderboard you don't need a creep name period god damn everybody want to be a creep name to be cool and shit nobody cares anyway back to this okay so here we go back to salty wall straight on um i don't know who old opponent is i'm about to i'm about to all all all creep names i'm gonna lose i'm monkey i like you you know what i'm saying but anyway so here we go down here in next group we have kary jadani and kary i don't know who these other guys are chat old opponent is cc oh cc's winning this then old opponent's though he's definitely winning but anyway let's get to the next four n cat bro n cat 19 which one is ish n cat 19 been around forever this guy's a og been on the same game of type for so long i feel i've been playing n cat for years where is eagles nation oh this is i don't know these names which one is ish what like i'm lizzie what the hell is what like i'm busy this is freaking strafing oh my god you guys are so weird man well if this is strafing hold on so this is strafing this is cc this is salty this is prime time 50 g's this is this guy dad yogurt manu and monkey the monkey has no shot yeah damn monkey so if this is really that group this is a tough group chat shit that's definitely a tough group uh here we go so the next group we got kary i don't know any is this eagles nation right here is this ish i came to dream who is he i don't know which one the eagle nation oh no this one oh y'all agree y'all would pass me stop going past what i'm talking chat this is why i don't listen to the chat i'm talking about one group but y'all talking about the next one jesus yeah y'all talking about the nap i'm like what okay but obviously this is kary i don't know any jada me and jada me and n cat is a decent first round game really i feel like these dudes are on the similar levels man i really do but yeah kary should this is kary's the lose for sure kary kind of got a easy little kary definitely got a one two step all right so now we want to the next one ish versus uh a weekend leaguer the fact that we can leave dude i don't know how i feel about weekend leaguer's even qualifying but the fact i don't know but anyway ish gotta pick ish over a weekend leaguer right chat you gotta pick you know my boy eagle nation is gonna make a run dude he's gonna make a run i like eagle nation over ish this guy my old my old been pretty decent honestly he's been pretty good red i g's always been around forever he's been pretty decent so this is i was so mild and the red i g will have to play against eagle nation this is a sleep ass damn eight right here dude if i was in this eight odd shit i'd be doing backflips j-13 is nice whose clay is nice up here we go chicoby chicoby won drinny oh this is kind of tough man what's gonna be tough who flash i swear this is akg be playing who be playing on this account this flash account i promise somebody plays on this flash account that i don't know is this drinny young drinny this is nick hackle oh okay yeah okay so he's playing chicoby that dude can we get that one all right won is gonna be beat the next two but won is winning won is is gonna play drinny the wine is not losing chicoby or nick hackle y'all gonna sleep y'all gonna start putting some respect on wine's name wine came out to the club with me in vegas man i'm picking wine over everybody until i feel like he's gonna lose but uh wine's not gonna be drinny drinny is really good in draft champions uh i don't know mr shawn still or joe fox is anybody worth anything but drinny's definitely definitely picking wine wine versus drinny is what happened and chicoby is not beating wine um first of all chicoby i love him man he's great but he's gonna fold any chance he gets like nick listen i'm gonna i don't want to hear about ben if we're not getting streams if we're not getting streams i don't want i don't want to hear it man all right last group last group we got daddy shaking archer looks like definitely looks like a creep high boogie hassan he's been around forever hell res b woods 22 bulletproof mckinley status versus fortnite listen fortnite fan is either the biggest bum or the best creep of all time chat chat this is blocky oh yeah okay see yep i'm okay yep see i know fortnite playing the best creep of all time yep that's a hell matchup it really is mckinley was blocky is a great first round game this is a nice little group man well not really i guess it's just a nice one game but b woods isn't terrible nice little one game right there who y'all like chat mckinley or blocky blocky's obviously had a little bit more success in mcs the last two years but mckinley's a sneaky player especially on dc man blocky blowout i don't think mckinley's status gets blown out let's not let's not just stop throwing let's not stop throwing mckinley's status around like that so honestly when we look at xbox already boys i mean obviously i think that the winner of blocky kind of the winner of this game is definitely gonna have a pretty easy road probably might write it right into the groups uh journey has a pretty easy first two games i i want i honestly think one is better than nick echo or chicoby but you know that's just me uh ever then that's this is a decent little group of eight right here between nick chicoby wine and uh journey that that's a decent little group of eight then the next eight uh my man equal nation taking this this is a shit group dude like this like we should spread some people out man like like we should really put like chicoby in here or we should put somebody else tough in there like but like one of these dudes is really going to make as much as it's isn't super shitty it's just shitty but you know what i'm saying i just feel like i just feel like out of this eight this this the sleep is eight that they got honestly chat then we got to move on up this one's pretty light too with um just carrying it i don't know these other guys and cat and jada me pretty good you know i'm saying they're pretty decent players then we're going to this one obviously is probably one of the best with monkey manu lurk uh prime time saw the uh cc and strafing that's that's pretty solid for next one's pretty solid too with deliverance fancy allen and skins the next eight i'm too much sya and akg is pretty light the next eight is super light with vilma snap ionic y'all said problem child or whoever we are man guy i mean i i like vilma to get out of this one pretty easily i'm more daddy to kansas city chief's club uh closer his winner the next eight who can fight this eight dude like if uh honestly who can fight this eight chat he can fight like if i told you he won't came out of this eight y'all it's not it's not unseemble like he can really fight this eight his skin's not bad cookie crisp with somebody good what is he in oh he's playing war daddy all right but we can definitely fight this eight but no we'll we'll is can fight this eight we can definitely fight that eight the next eight the next eight is strongest shit the next eight is the strongest group that were that that we've seen so far agree or disagree between cleft stick work j wall farred um drag and and pavin that's this is the toughest eight that's out there that's definitely the toughest eight let me go up here v tech this is a nice one too big george boges the croft boges is going to get out of this one pretty easy they'll be going to the next whoo the next one we got uh t davis joe rice the winner of that game is going to be uh pretty easy road really i don't know what these guys are uh the next eight we got rage pretty easy one with nini this uh i don't see what's up with this henry account i don't know how they're gonna work that i anyone keep talking about it because i'm not a snitch but then we got k mac a dot and uh and little man little man versus k max won't be pretty good hopefully if they get their wins the top problem has the easiest group of all time because e a cater's the problem and the top four i told you guys man j wolf man jack organs a decent game for me as far as i'm concerned you know but that's that's xbox man i wish i could watch all these games i really do really wish i could watch all these games you know just sit back and everybody had to stream that i can't wait to the to the time in man when they make everybody stream man but i until then we're just gonna have to ask people what happened and find out what happened but let's move on to the playstation now i'm going to need you guys helps i played a lot on playstation but i still don't know all these people so chat you're gonna have to help me youtube you're gonna have to help me man because it's definitely going to be uh i'm not gonna know all these people man so we're definitely going to go through this you guys tell me i want to when i when i say a name man i want a one to ten all right all right playstation guys you gotta tell me a one to ten and this first four is pretty strong i really don't know i guess this is junior junior is pretty good shit well he was like the last person if that's that's juwap that's pretty good i don't know new york state of mind was the number one right dude i heard everybody in the top ten on playstation was shit though that's what i heard but the number one right god and to have juwap right there that's pretty decent and then tekkers and geffler i don't know geffler but y'all like tekkers over him radiant this is the hill what's crazy to me is radiant is the point guard for the sixers 2k team the philly 76ers rate this is their point guard like literally the point guard that plays for the settlement pro 2k team this is radiant like he's hell like chat that i feel like this is pretty damn hell that the point guard qualified for a man tournament i mean shit all right but anyway then obviously elite player 18 i don't know then we have kiv and i'm the best in this i'm the best in this is not i honestly why would that be sad that he made both that's tough he's tough what the hell we play video games all day y'all watching me talk about who's matching up but anyway kiv i'm the best in this i'll tell you this is not the easiest first round matchup you could have had way easier first round matchups than this honestly and then we have lactose intolerant we have the illest swish hardball and if any and then we have skimbo vs chaos is there anybody any of these other names any good chat the illest is good hardballing is a one he's good oh that's the real hardballing oh my god jesus by the way obviously i like skimbo to come out of this skimbo won't lose the chaos it won't happen just literally two different type two different players my man stats jody joe orio season elijah is ghost um superior attack i i don't know any of these guys chat is any of these guys going to be ghosts because stats shout out the stats stats a pretty decent player and um but obviously ghost is ghost whereas joker's got the weird ass name yeah this is joke this is joke right here i'm tripping all god dollar sewell he just typed numbers and that's going to that's going to be a third round matchup ghost versus joke that's going to be tough this is a tough little group that has stats i know stats are decent joke and ghosts in the same group it's pretty tough ghost is elijah ghost is elijah and joker's this letter is with number 27 but i i would i ah man ghost is a better offensive player i think that's going to help him beat joker what do you guys think ghosts and joker they match up i don't know but at the same time i feel like ghost is a mental midget and joker can kind of punk him like ghost might fold the joke i think ghost is ghost is better on offense and i feel like that's going to help him in dc but joker's better defensive player and i think he has the mental advantage on on ghost but that's gonna be that's gonna be tough my man laurence trill to king uh master gamer verse moe in the first round dude in the first round master gamer verse moe that's pretty tough who you guys like master gamer or moe man master gamer or moe mass you guys moe yeah i think moe's always been pretty decent dc player man obviously won the first dc belt so uh yeah i'm probably gonna pick moe in that match up as well but for that whoever wins that man that's this thirst to lose i know laurence is gonna be pretty decent but last time we saw laurence he was running uh bunch tight end bunch tight end is not in a lot of books so that's one thing i look at man who can run the basic stuff draft champions is really about who can run the basic stuff he can run the basic stuff the best really like just who can run four verse the best who can run slants the best who can run you know like i said z spot the best or just some basic asplay the best really that's what draft champions is about and uh moe's always been pretty good that where master gamer tries to like dissect the game to a different level next group of four we got a group of eight han solo man veteran j bird verse j s the best that's a decent first round matchup right there uh just great now i don't know any of these other guys chat let me know if anyone here is any good you know what i'm saying but han solo i think this guy koink i done seen koink name before oh this is saffa okay how y'all know all these names jesus this is qc player qc this is you why do you never like i've never seen you guys in my chat ever before do you like not watch madden or like what like watching me am i boring like do you not watch like what what why have i never heard from qc player qc like this stuff hurts me sometimes man i'm just yeah i knew i knew the koink name i knew koink was tough i knew that name maybe i played him on playstation i don't know but i knew koink yeah so koink and han solo that's gonna be a tough little game han solo made it from weekend league that's pretty crazy but um and the j bird j is the best this is the name if you got saffa and then you got my man uh what's the name q oh qc in the next he in the next group never mind my man qc player qc the lyrics are corny they really are qc player qc hercules lucas penthe i don't know any of these dudes but qc player oh qc this is the first time you're loud okay what part of canada man qc in the chat so i like qc to win pony versus mr hit stick this is a sneaky game chat chat this is sneaky yeah i yeah this is definitely winnable why couldn't it just put my man skimbo in this little group right here hmm but mr hit stick not bad chat he's not bad next group will go to my man tiggs uh point spray killer nick is beast is back jags club series winner point spray killer tiggs i would say this is probably tiggs to win really well skimbo definitely not streaming that's up to chaos no fat rat is not let's get to the next group i don't know any of these guys why not me is not bugs this is turbo jeff fuck gravity all right let's get to the next eight i don't know what these guys really like to help me out with some of these people not me why not me is oh oh that's legend versus nick is hold on see this is why it's hard man like bra so you got turbo jeff legend nick is beast club series winner point spray killer former club series winner six of 300 this is a decent little group now that i really know who these people are this is a decent little group i think legends are pretty good you're a champions player man xbox is way better than us way better way better then we get to the next eight look like look at the next i know this is this is ice is who's shadow light you guys better tell me one of these guys is somebody because this looks like the sleepest thing in the world talk to me chat who are these people shadow light is spoto this kind akg is ice i believe i mean but this is just sleep i y'all can't even argue this stuff with with xbox my man vote is back vote max a million crit too many questions uh hit a one vote takes this in the landslide vote takes this in a landslide i heard crit is kind of tough though but vote is a nerd and vote is the ultimate grinder bruh i think i think highly of vote on the video game but let's get to the next eight bruce the gamer the bruce the gamer gave me a hell game one on the ps4 leaderboards uh newton eagles club series runner up and gusto was uh i believe the dolphins runner up last year who you guys like in this one no one really stands out to me newton could make a run bruce the gamer wasn't terrible uh gusto obviously is not terrible so we'll see what happens in this i honestly don't have a pick for this group i really don't know next group we go to the next eight six cents six cents i believe was in the first live event ever one shot this is joel joel is back joel okay uh haters in my rear is crush so we got joel is back that'd be cool um six cents joel if he can get to crush we'll see man joel got tied girly why not pick you man you already know they were trying to hate on you you already know hey chat let one know i picked him i said me and wine went to the club he's built to win he's gonna get this w i already picked him there was like no chicoby gonna be one and and nick hackle gonna be chicoby and one you already know i picked you but anyway so that's pretty tough crush versus joel is gonna be pretty good joel and saints i mean i don't know what he's gonna do in saints so yeah thanks i don't know six cents i joel always got a lot of user i don't know how much you've been playing the game i really don't know anything about joel now but i listen if i don't know anything about man if i didn't know if i woke up in 20 years if i wouldn't know if i woke up in 10 years i went in the coma in 10 years you woke me up and the first thing you asked me they're playing a game of man tomorrow is joel versus nfl six cents i would pick joel a hundred times out of a hundred i don't care what's going on in madden if joel if joel's better than him bang so joel really playing he gonna win this first round in the second round now crush is crush been playing crush is pretty damn good so i don't know if i picked joel over crush that's gonna be a tough little matchup for joel so but we'll see i mean i'm probably gonna form honestly and uh it's gonna be it's gonna be a tough bracket then then we got the next eight uh you guys gotta let me know i don't know any of these guys i don't know which one this is why it's like i obviously i don't play playstation that much i play a little bit so i'm not gonna know any of these guys but i'll tell you don't ever compare playstation to freaking uh i think all is good is somebody isn't it yeah there you go all right i know it's somebody there you go but anyway um this eight is shit somebody wanted to tell me somebody this is somebody else i really want to know like who like who are these dudes swole is tough swole monster is tough yeah like come on chat like what now we get to the next eight golden glover sprint my guy like now we go to this one like come on chat y'all can't bring up this playstation compared to xbox man this is truzy does truzy have a creep no truzy doesn't have a creep that's what i'm talking about chat chat youtube that's what i'm talking about if truzy has a creep it's no longer cool to have a creep name oh my god but my man sprint definitely be ruined for my man sprint in this matter that's my guy don't know if he gots what it takes but truzy is not winning anything truzy not winning anything but here's a little sub so i know truzy you know i appreciate you my god but you're not good enough to have a creep let's get into the next eight we got uh franchise gg who just barely lost the c4 event to vilma let me know who hot cheetos is i'm assumed i noticed is somebody i heard that's somebody but i don't know who it is uber to your mom's man elite reckless reads talk to me who is some of these people reckless reads is cj vs man elite uh franchise sims lover come on man who's hot cheetos who's man elite come on man somebody talk cheetos is hefe who the hell is hefe and cj another guy that he don't need a creep man elite is somebody like a creep name a kind of my god man eight most subs all right listen there's really like there's less than 10 people that need creep names man hefe plays with kidvin them is hot cheetos uh yeah i don't man elite yes he's just good but he i like oh man adi cart yeah i don't know who many of these names are really but let's go into the next eight sports i swear this is guy that skimbo played before in the leaderboards let me know i know this right here cdo k k but is uh beast mode come on guys chat talk to me i don't know any youtube let me know if you guys know who any of these creeps are rival is luke cage that's that's rival okay i know who any cards is is he really in the tournament or i thought he disappeared surging his ass surging the god his ass i don't know obviously i probably go with beast mode he won uh drag champions belt before adi cards was the gold man he was the man he inspired me he inspired me through youtube but there we go rivals want to be pretty good and we got rival and beast mode pretty much uh gonna be where it comes down to rival versus beast mode that's that's pretty decent let's go down to the last group a o bruce lee roy i don't know any mute is cool i'm pretty sure i came across that name before but i don't see much anything here chat chat i never want to i never want to compare like like let's just go to the last group let's go down here to the last group let's just compare the groups all right the the the fours we that's all we gotta do this four right here blocky mckinley status b woods high boogie doddy which group is better this last four or this four over here we got trez money mego mute bush crystal pump a bruce lee roy which four is better i'm going to xbox what are you going to chat youtube what are you going xbox that's one let's put a one in the tab for xbox right gotta be xbox then let's go back up where are we on this another playstation we got beast mode and rival and a group with other people beast mode and rival who's the next group on playstation drinny won chicoby nick hackle xbox give the two points for xbox zero for playstation right i'm taking drinny over beast mode i'm taking one over rival i'm taking chicoby and nick over the rest of that damn group that they have over there right two for xbox zero for playstation the next group on xbox here we go after high boogie at the daddy okay no no no yeah yeah we did that okay the next group on xbox is xbox worst group this is xbox worth grouping it has ish eagles nation and red ig all could probably top 10 players on playstation here we go so that group now let's go to the next group on x the next group on playstation is hot cheetos uh franchise gg and and manly and cj i will give this one to playstation playstation goes it gets one point this group is better than the group over there on xbox agreed a thousand percent so i will give playstation a point right here the next group on playstation sprint come get boxed golden glover versus truzy truzy is a top player on playstation that's how bad that's how bad playstation is let's go over here the next group and cat carry jada me some other guys i'm taking a group with carry over this group on playstation talk to me chat we got golden glover versus truzy and sprint i don't know these other guys i'm taking carry over this whole group i'm giving three points to xbox one point for ps4 right now next group we got killer mike and a bunch of names over here after this group we got primetime 50 g cc straffin salty yurt monkey manu four points for xbox one for playstation that's no doubt about it that's easy next group here deliverance fancy alan skins let's compare that to over here with crush and joe give me alan skins fancy and deliverance over this one that's five to one xbox next group noonan and gusto and bruce the gamer that's five one xbox right now the next group on on xbox sya akg arozo i'm too much six one xbox no doubt about it akg would walk out of this group running goal line only it is six to one right now xbox next group hit a one crit voltarex the next group on xbox this is so bad vilma snap cookie chris ward daddy chat i'm gonna need your help with this one because i think vilma is better than everybody in that group over there vilma is better than everybody in that group snap onik the number one weekend leaguer on xbox cookie chris and we got a club series champion and we got your guy problem child i think i'm going seven one xbox yep we're going to seven one the xbox next group seawoo team more some serious club series winner we got two club series winners and team more and some serious and we got seawoo then the group over here has ice and spoto this could on between ice and spoto be true to the game i feel like i know that name too but between ice and spoto i think we got to go with i think we got a little ice and spoto here chat over seawoo's group so is that seven to two seven to two all right seven to two xbox next group isn't even close i'm just going to skip it because this is the help group of the whole thing and we're going against chigs and yeah that's a blowout i actually wasted this group it's a blowout because this group could be any group in the game you could put any honestly all you could put the best four names you could put the now you could put like the best eight names on on playstation it would still be a debate for this group right here with pavin drag fard j wall stickwork and clef that's going to be tough so that's eight to two next group for here is just uh young qc pony mr hits thick qc pony mr hits thick next group over here is decroften bugs that's nine to two xbox with with vtech and big george nine to two xbox next four next four is uh we go with we go with um t davis and uh joe rice over here let's go to the next four on jay bird jas the best koi han solo i'm taking joe rice chat ah fuck damn i just hit x on it i know it's on here though i think we're going 10 to two though yeah i think we're going 10 to two with this group t davis and joe rice over this group of a koi j bird han solo and jas the best we got to go with with with joe rice and uh joe rice and t davis so that's 10 is that 11 to two now next group we go nini uh nini and rage up here we're going to go where we at here uh nini and rage compared to laurence master gamer and moe i would probably i'm going to give this one i won't give this one to playstation henry not henry can't play he's too uh henry can henry too young ps4 yeah this is ps4 because of moe mostly but i would take rage and nini over matt but we'll go with players so it's 11 to three right now next group k mac little man a dot next group on what you call it is yeah i'm gonna give this one is playstation because stats uh ghost and joke play so this is places so where we at 11 to 4 next group is chaos skimbo next group over here is problems group so that's 11 to 5 i'll give that to playstation last group i'm probably gonna give the playstation because i know they got uh they got juwap tekkers uh and kiv is better than j wolf man so it's 11 to 6 is what i came and i don't think that's it i think it's 12 6 because how many groups are there 8 128 divided by 8 is what chat 16 okay so what did i but it was 11 to 5 yeah 11 to 5 is what i got 11 to 5 11 to 5 xbox over playstation i want to end that debate man but that's the bracket chat and youtube that was definitely the bracket um that's how i went i mean obviously my picks i don't know who i'm picking but i know skimbo won't get the groups i know cleft won't get the groups and i know vilma won't get the groups and i know booze won't get the groups so those four guys are getting the groups no doubt about it the other four i mean are the other people getting the groups i think problems gonna get the groups for sure i think he has an easy and easy road man and i think akg has an easy road too and i think the woo man can get there chat youtube i think see who can get there man i really do i think he has hope i think he has promised he can get it done man but anyway youtube man please comment below let me know who you guys think what's the tougher bracket i had an 11 to 5 with uh xbox with better groups than playstation man xbox has always been the tougher system i i can claim i'm the best xbox player in the last three years but we're not going to get into that now and as i continue what i was going to say please hit the like button please comment on below who you think is ready to make a run in this tournament


Hello everybody, I'm Evil Rabbit. We're here on a set of Corsa doing a shakedown of the BRZ street drift car that I've been working on. Something that I've been having a little fun with. This BRZ is kind of a street tuned drift car on some Zina RT615Ks. So this car is definitely very fun. It is a 2.5 swap turbo in this BRZ. So we're going to be shaking it down today because this is going to be the car that I'm going to be releasing to you guys for the new Drift Academy that I'm going to be running. So make sure you guys follow me on all social media, I'll just find the description box below. Let's get to it. We're going to go full shakedown with this car. Like I said, this is a street tuned drift BRZ. And we're going to be using this car in a new Drift Academy that I'm going to be starting. So a lot of people, probably staying fourth, a lot of people ask me all the time about tips and tricks for drifting and stuff like that here in the set of course. So we're going to wreck our car in the first try. We're good. We got it.   And this car will progressively get more powerful. The interior and everything is going to change into state pro spec and pro style cars going all the way from the basics of drifting from getting your fine tuned wheel settings and settings on the car and stuff like that all the way to full blown out tandem and tandem drifting and stuff like that. So it's a series that I've been wanting to do for a little bit of time. And a lot of people have asked for it. I did a couple beginner drift videos a while back in the old, I believe it was Tando buddy cars or something like that. And a lot of people liked it and wanted to follow along with it. So I decided to bring back a whole series on it along with of course, for the content coming out here very soon with the new motorsports coming out. So we'll be doing this tutorial style stuff for set of course, a drifting, getting this car fully unspect out for say full blown out competition driving and stuff like that. But just something a fun series to follow along with if you are a new drifter especially or just want some tips and tricks on how to get kind of up in the rankings here in a set of course and drifting. Now I'm not the same best drifter in the world here on a set of course. But I do have a pretty good feel for what I need to do. So that is something that I've been wanting to work on for a while. And I decided to just bring out a new car for people to follow along with and drift simultaneously with me in these videos. So this is like I said a street tuned drift car. And it's roughly about 350 horsepower.  And it's based off of my old business, if you guys remember my street cars that I used that a lot of people seem to love. And I'm still probably one of my favorite sets of cars with my C6 and stuff like that. So the inertia values and everything on this car are based off of real world weights and transfers and stuff like that that I found on the inner webs to replicate as close as possible to correct suspension and stuff like that. If you guys remember that street car pack it was worked with by me, Addy, and a few of the other guys that used to drift with Christmas and everybody to fine tune them to get them to be probably the most realistic style street cars that I could. So that's what we're utilizing here. We're getting into the hairpins now. I'm utilizing on this BRZ. This originally was a CSR2 model that was imported in. I have to get all the information from the original creators and stuff to give credit because I did not build the model on this car 100%. Of course I'll be doing some modifications and stuff to it. But the physics base, the power bands, drivetrain, everything like that are things that I've worked on to get it to drive the way it is. And I think we're absolutely killing it with this car right now here on the mountains. So this car's a lot of fun to drive and I'm super excited to bring you guys along for the ride with getting this car from a street car and progressing people's knowledge with the car and building it up to full blown out cop cars. Along the road of doing these tutorials that we'll be hosting, basically Drift Academy style online live sessions. We're all gonna be in there drifting with this car and probably the other street cars and stuff like that to get you guys back involved. With the drift community here on my channel, I do appreciate you guys all coming back for all the videos and everything like that. Getting back into the cold winter season which in time means a lot of live sessions, a lot of live tandems and stuff because we can't go outside and do fun stuff. So we're gonna be doing a lot more here on the channel with live stuff and like I said with fours and everything coming out as well. To be that, I thought we were gonna lose that one. The car's so good. I love it. A little left foot brake. Getting used to the pedals that I'm rocking now. I did finally take off the Fanta Tech pedals. We are rocking full modes of pedals now. So we do have auto down blip and everything now. So the full chassis is now full modes of racing. So big thank you to them for being continued supporters of the channel. This car gets it. Oh man. I'm super excited to bring this car out to you guys and let you guys get your hands on this car because this car is so much fun if you can't tell. We are inches from Nymphs Falls. And we just completed that entire mount without dying too much. So like I said, just a little quick, you know, look at the car. It is obviously just a standard street car right now. As you can see, the BRZTS was the interior and everything on this car. So got to do some more tweaking of the interior. I want to with probably some, you know, NRG seats and probably change the steering wheel and stuff. But like I said, this car will go full blown out competition car getting caged and more power and stuff like that. But it is about 348-ish horsepower with a 2.5 liter turbo. And this BRZRIPS on some nice grippy Falcon RT6-15Ks, which was probably the street tire that I like to choose. So if you guys are excited for this, let me know down in the comment section down below. Like I said, this car will be released to you guys very shortly. Once I start releasing these kind of, you know, drift tutorials and, you know, it's helped try and help people out with the knowledge that I've learned over the few years of doing this and passing it on to everybody else because was it set, of course, two coming out next year and everything, we need to get everybody into this and get everything going. Logged out. So once again, I think you guys have come back watching this video, big thank you to you guys for supporting the channel. And if you guys are not subscribed to the channel and you guys wanna see this stuff and get this car and some other cars that I'm gonna be releasing here soon, make sure you guys hit that subscribe button, hit notifications so you can get the bell notification so you can get the videos as soon as they come out. So it's always that, thank you guys for coming back and watching, evil rabbit. I'm gonna leave you guys a little replay angle of this car. I'll see you guys on the track.