Welcome to Barbell Logic, Rewind. Welcome to the Barbell Logic podcast. I'm Scott Hamburg, and of course, you have Matt Reynolds with us today. We've been talking a lot about managing stress and training, but all of those episodes in the MED Toolbox episodes and the two-part deal we did on stress recovery adaptation, that's about the good stress. That's about the stress we want that we recover from that makes us stronger. This show, we're going to talk about the non-productive stress, the stresses that occur in our lives that affect our training. Well, that affect us and then that ultimately trickles down and affects our training. That's the stuff that we could all do without. We're going to talk about how we might train around that, and maybe we'll even get into how to deal with it just in general. This came from an email you got, Matt. I just looked, I didn't get this email. I don't know how much you want to say about the guy that's sending in. Yeah. So Jacob, who's developed a friendship, good guy, young, middle-aged guy, he's got a family, kids. He's actually a pastor of a church. And so I think most people know this about me. I was raised as a preacher's kid. And so there's a tremendous amount of unplanned, unproductive stress that hits people who are in that sort of ministry field or working with other people. Because you just never know when somebody's going to get sick, somebody's going to have a heart attack, somebody has a baby. And this guy is completely dedicated to strength training. He understands the value that it makes in his life and what it does for him as a husband and a dad and a pastor and a leader and all those sorts of things. But he keeps coming up with this, you know, I never know. And then I get a phone call at one o'clock in the morning and I've got to go be at a hospital and sit with somebody's mom or somebody's had a new baby or somebody, you know, just got diagnosed with cancer or whatever those things are. And I'm scheduled to squat and deadlift the next day. And I think everything's going to be fine. Or I even talked to my coach and say, hey, it looks like the next three weeks we can ramp up the loading on the block. The guy is out of novice progression. And, you know, he said, hey, I can see you ahead on the calendar and it looks like I can train hard for the next three to four weeks. And then you just get these random things that occur. And he's a good example to use because a guy like a pastor or a guy in that sort of situation of a police officer, a fireman, you just don't ever know when the stress when the, you know, the craft's going to hit the fan. Those are great guys to use as an example and probably deal with that more than the rest of us do, although we all deal with it. So the question is, how do you deal with it when it hits? And when the stress is nuts on a Tuesday and you're scheduled on Wednesday to squat and deadlift heavy, how do you handle those things? Those sort of unproductive stress days or nights or even things like, you know, we've mentioned things like, you know, having marital stress or strife that you don't expect or your kids' custom sort of stress or job stress that you didn't know was coming. How does that affect your training? And then how much do you let it affect your training versus how much do you just sort of dig in deep and do the best you can? And I think there's probably different answers for both different people and also different answers for different, how far along the novice intermediate advanced sort of spectrum you are makes a big difference as well. I don't know if there's kinds of stress, but it happens in two ways. One of them is Tuesday was awful, right?  In the next 18 months, two years, five years are gonna be awful, right? And there's kind of two different approaches that you would have to take. So let's talk about the short-term one first. Hey, got an offender bender today, had to stand on the side of the road for an hour and a half talking to the cops and watching the fireman sweep the glass up and blah, blah, blah, get towed. Tuesday sucked. Yep. I don't know that it matters too much about whether you're at LPE or if you're a more advanced athlete at that point. Tuesday night training's not gonna be any good. You should probably go ahead and do it. The time that you spend with a heavy borrow on your back, which might only be 17 seconds per set, you're probably not gonna be thinking about the car wreck for that 17 seconds. There's mindful meditation thing that happens when the weight's heavy, you know? So you say that you train to de-stress and it doesn't do that for me, partly at all. But for that time when you're in the gym and focused on that, at least you'll be able to leave that stuff behind for that time. But you're probably not gonna be able to move as much weight as you were scheduled to if you're a person in LPE. Yeah, so I don't disagree with you. When I say I train to de-stress, I'm really actually talking about long-term stress often. So I've noticed if I'm in a period of time right now as I've talked about where my dad is still in hospice and still just in his decline and just crazy sort of long periods of business stress that occur. And so training helps me de-stress in those sort of long times of heightened stress. However, I have noticed in my own life when I have a specific, very high period of stress for a day or two that Tuesday is awful, that Tuesday night is awful, whatever it is, I will often, regardless of whether it's me or one of my clients, I will sometimes push the day back, push the workout back 24 hours, especially if the stress has caused a tremendous decrease in the amount of sleep or rest that I've received. Man, if I don't get my sleep in, if I get two hours of sleep, I mean, I can't do anything. And so I often encourage my clients and I do the same. I look at entire training weeks often. If I'm scheduled to train on Wednesday and I don't and I train on Thursday like it's a failure, it's not a failure. If I'm scheduled to train three times that week and I train three times that week and it was supposed to be Monday, Wednesday, Friday and instead it's Monday, Thursday, Saturday, then I don't think you lose anything. So I think if that's a possibility, I think that's a perfectly fine way to handle it. If the stress is tremendous. Now, the gamble that you take is if Tuesday is really crappy and so you push your training, you're like, I can't train Tuesday night or I can't train Wednesday morning. So I'm gonna take 24 hours off and just push it back. Wednesday might also be crappy, just as crappy or worse. And so that's the danger there and pushing it back 24 hours is then that one day of high stress turns into two days or three days or four days of high stress and now you didn't train. And so that's why I look at it as a week. I've done the same with clients that are firemen, police, doctors, nurses who work these really strange schedules, right, that they don't ever know and they're 48 hours on and 72 hours off and sometimes they get called in. Could you do a job like that? No, no. But I mean, it's, you know, again, it's one of those deals where I think that it would kill me. Over time, I don't think almost nobody talks about it, right? Like it's been one of those things where often the report back is, well, like you're just not doing the program, find a better way and like, well, but you can't because that's your job. And so you got to figure out how to still train. And so the answer is, is that you train in those periods when I have somebody that's got one of those really weird weekly schedules and they don't work Monday through Friday for 40 or 45 hours a week, then we just say, look, here's the training that you need to get done this week. I'm gonna set you up on a Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Saturday schedule. But if it doesn't occur on those days, it doesn't matter to me as long as all of this work actually gets done in the period of the week. I'm not a big fan of combining workouts, especially if you're on a four-day split. I do see that sometimes. We'll be like, I just fell behind. And so I did all of Wednesday and all of Thursday's workouts on Friday. Like, well, that's a lot of work. And so everything suffers. So I would rather push it back 24 hours first. And then you make no modifications to the program. And if you push it back 24 hours, if we do it your way, which I also think is perfectly acceptable, which is you just get in there and do it anyway, then I think you have to look at, okay, well, I may need to make some modifications to the workout to reduce stress a little bit. If it's late in LP, they probably can't go out there and just do it anyway.  And they probably can't do it. And when I say that, for me, sometimes the pressure I put on myself to train can become an additional stress. Oh, yeah. And I don't want the fact that I need to train to weigh on me. Yeah, that's really, you gotta walk a fine line there. You gotta be pretty introspective. You know, I say, well, am I using that as an excuse to screw up, right? You know, am I using the stress in my life as an excuse to screw up? And am I using the fact that training itself is stressful as an excuse to screw up? And, you know, during that business sale, kind of about a first third of the way through that, sale of my business last fall, man, my training just wasn't going very well.  Then the fact that the training wasn't going well was making my life worse too. Yeah, so for me at that point, just kind of being kind to myself and say, well, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna move something reasonably heavy around a couple of times a week or when I can, was I think the best option for me. I wasn't gonna make any progress after July of 2018. What gonna happen? Yeah, so let's split that up a little bit. So that time period, if we're talking about this acute level of like one day or two days of stress, you can often just either push back the workout 24 hours. If you think that that one or two days of stress is going to end at one or two days. Right. And if you think it's gonna last for three or four or the better part of a week, then you're gonna have to modify the programming a little bit to either do less volume or do less intensity. I mean, look, your body doesn't really understand the difference in stress. It doesn't know what is productive stress and non-productive stress. What we're doing when we go in the weight room is we're actually stressing our bodies. And the goal there is to make that stress almost entirely physical so that you get this physical adaptive response to it. But your body sort of has these responses that it gives to stress in general. And so whether that is a really hard set of squats or whether that was a fight with your wife last night, you've got these things that occur in your body systemically, it doesn't really understand the difference. So while the adaptation will be specific. The fight with the wife is worse than a heavy set of squats. Of course it is. Way worse. As a matter of fact, it's the worst, right? Especially if you actually have a really good relationship with your wife. If you have a bad relationship with your wife, maybe you're just used to fighting with your wife, right? I know for both you and I, we don't fight with our wives very often. And so maybe we should LP that and just get more and more acclimated. So that the fights don't affect us as much. They could get worse and worse. Okay, let's use a slightly different example. As business owners, I have had to have in the last decade of my life as a business owner more awkward and comfortable conversations. If you're not a business owner, there's no way you have awkward conversations as often as we do. Unless you're a pastor or something in that field as well, right?  That's certainly one of those as well. But here's what I found. Really awkward, you know, uncomfortable conversations, crucial conversations don't affect me as negatively now as they did 10 years ago. Because I've sort of LP'd that. I just have to have those more often. You have a callous on your empathy. Well, I mean. No. Right. I've just had to learn how to deal with that sort of unproductive stress.  By the way, the other thing that's done for me is it's made it so that I am constantly pushing to deal with it as quickly as possible. Because what really wrecks me is the cancer of the anxiety of the fallout of that conversation. So I would rather just have the conversation. It's never as bad as the anxiety of what is to come. Yeah, that was the worst part about that business. I couldn't tell my employees until after I think it was December 14th. So I had all this stuff going on that I knew that we were going to have to have one of these difficult conversations and it was just hanging out there and I couldn't kill it. And it was just there every day. Terrible. Yeah. So that's kind of how we handle the acute stuff. And by the way, I would say I would default to for the acute stuff that occurs just one day. It's a bad conversation or a fight with your wife or the bad Tuesday. If you were a novice, I would try to get in and still get your work done because that's what you're doing in LP as well as you can. If you don't, you're going to have to repeat that session. You understand what I'm saying? Like you're on a linear progression. If you're on a linear progression where you're supposed to be doing three sets of five and increasing five pounds, that's why I would default to a push it back 24 hours so that you can still increase five pounds and do your three sets of five as a novice. Whereas if I'm an intermediate or advanced, I would default probably more to making actual individual programming changes on that day to reduce the stress of the actual workout a little bit by either decreasing the intensity or decreasing the volume so that the total stress on my body is not as much as it was planned to be because there's more stress on my body having nothing to do with the weight training that I'm going to have to deal with. Does that make sense? Yeah, for the intermediate, that's pretty easy to do. Normally just means you scrub the accessories. Yeah, that's the first place I lose. The first thing I'm going to do is lose accessories. If you're going to squat and deadlift and then you've got some stuff coming after that, whatever the heck that may be, don't do that stuff. Don't do that. And then you put all your equipment back up, go in the house, it's the end of it. So that's acute. Let's talk about that long term. And actually, this is a good example we're talking about you. That process of selling your business was about a three month process. Is that right? That's right. In that ballpark? Oh God, it was probably more like closer to four. But yeah. So you've got this long period of heightened stress. I mean, here's the I'm sorry part. If you're a novice going through LP, it's just not going to work very well for you. No, you still should do it. I mean, it's still it's, I'm not going to tell you to just not train during that time period, but recognize that it will end faster. Yeah, it's a challenge, right? Like if you're underweight, your LP is going to end faster. If you're older, it's going to end faster. If you have a terribly stressful job, it's going to end faster. If you work nights, it's going to end faster. That all of these things are just challenges to the organism and they all serve to shorten LP. That's why, you know, it's perfect when it's an 18 year old who doesn't cook. It doesn't have a job, doesn't have to cook for themselves. That's why they go the farthest, you know. That's right. It's on the college meal plan.  Speaking of stress, a friend and client Kirk, if you guys have watched any. Tall Kirk, tall Kirk. Ninth foot tall Kirk. Yeah. Why isn't Kirk in the NBA right now? Let's talk about that. Well, he has trouble with just, you know, walking and stuff. But do you know that there's an actual, I think it's 20% one in five of all guys as tall as Kirk in Kirk's age demographic right now in the United States are in the NBA, 20% of them. He has a one in five shot. Right. Yeah, he didn't make the cut. Yeah, he didn't make the cut. I'm going to guess that Kirk would just say the NBA is degenerate and he doesn't want to participate. And I think he's probably right. If you guys watch any of the meets that are on live streamed on YouTube, Kirk, he's super tall. Like he's in danger of breaking the lights out when he does the overhead press.  Like they have to move on a 10 foot ceiling. They have to move the platform over so he doesn't hit the light fixtures. He's a paramedic. So we've had a really difficult time, you know, getting him as strong as he could be because of his schedule. And even when we work around the schedule because he works these weird, you know, 24s and 48s and I don't even know what it all is. It doesn't seem to have any sort of real pattern that I can discern. He might have one session where he has a couple of people die on him. And it's too hard. But back to the meal plan thing, he's also in the Naval Reserves and he's getting ready to be a station in Guantanamo for nine months. He's gonna have regular sleep in cafeteria food and nothing to do but train. So Kirk come Christmas is gonna be a different person because all of that other stress is gonna be gone. Sure. So excited for him. Yeah, and the interesting is what we should be doing in basic training. Once you're out of basic training, you're sort of an officer in the armed forces.  And when these 18 year old kids are in basic, they don't do that with them.  They run them into the ground. You could just be creating monsters but another story for another day. So for you when you're selling your business over the course of four months or when you know you've got a long period of high stress, that's when you have to make adjustments to programming. You have to. And as a novice, as an LP, if you're an LP, it may be that adjustment is you do a two-day LP instead of a three-day LP. Love that. So that's probably the easiest change to make an LP. That would most likely lengthen the LP, the how long you could continue to make linear progression. And by the way, the nice thing about linear progression is it's not very stressful as far as the programming itself. Like you know what you're doing on the next session, like you never really have to worry too much about, oh, I've got to hit this huge thing or what am I going to do? Or it's like, look, it's just, it's the programming you figure out in the first two days, right? It's just, that's the deal. But when you are out of LP and you're intermediate and the further down that spectrum you are closer to advanced, I think if our listeners get nothing else out of this podcast, here's what I found over the past 20 years. When you're in periods of very high stress for a long time, you got to go in the gym and have fun. Dude, you've got to enjoy it. And that's the thing that I saw with you that you struggle with some in the beginning and you were able to sort of figure out halfway through that, hey, I can't go in and do things that I don't like in the gym while I'm also dealing with this enormous life stress. And that means that it's okay to go in the gym. If you've gone through LP, if you're not a novice anymore, if you're at least an intermediate, it's okay to have periods of time where you go in the gym and exercise and not train. It's okay. Yeah, and it's not that. Because we need it. It's not that the intermediate has earned that right. It's that the novice can actually, even though they're under a great deal of stress they can probably still go in the gym and actually do themselves some good. But if I'm at the point where I have to pull three sets of five deadlifts at four, 10, which is heavy for me, had to fire three people. Yeah, that's probably not going to happen. We all have those time periods where we don't want to train. Like we just feel like I feel achy or cold or like I'm just busy or stressed or whatever. And I don't really want to go to the gym and train. But if you're dreading, like it feels and sounds like torment to go to the gym. Go in most of my experiences that 90% of the time that I don't want to go train and I go train and I start warming up, I start to enjoy the training.  And that's the time when either A, I don't train or B, I completely scrap the workout and I just go and have fun and just develop the habit. And for me, because I'm old and I used to be really strong and now I'm just decently strong. If I chase a number, then I put additional stress on myself. And so for me, that's where I've started to fall to. That might be one of those days where I do lighter weight, higher volume, for lack of a better term, get that old school Arnold Schwarzenegger pump going, feel better and walk out of the gym and go, like, okay, I did something. I got a good pump. I got my blood pumping. You know, I get some of that dopamine, some of that dorphin rush and I feel better. And it helps. That's what I mean when I say it helps me get rid of stress and I think that's perfectly okay to do that in certain periods of time. I had several sessions during that sale period where I'd unrack about the third warmup. That feels like the first or the heaviest five I've ever done. Yeah, yep. And again, I've done enough and that I've kind of calibrated and I know what's hard and what's not. And a guy in LP doesn't, sorry. But when I have one of those days, it's awful. But so we've already said, if you're in LP putting off your training for 24 hours, might not be a bad idea. If you're gonna have some chronic stress going on, two day a week in LP is a mighty fine idea. And then if you're not in LP, scrubbing, throwing out your accessories, that's always a quick and easy way to get rid of a little of that stress. You know, one of the things about stress too, by the way, is when you're under stress, you're normally more pinched for time too. Sure. So if you scrub those accessories, that's a big help. And then for the intermediates, I have a lot of luck. I have a lot of good luck with the one lift a day. If they're gonna have chronic stress, I have a lot of good luck with that. I even have people that get PRs, particularly on the deadlift on one lift a day. So one lift a day, I mean, that's exactly what it sounds like, right? You're gonna train four days a week.   That's the only thing you're gonna do. You're gonna deadlift one day and that's it. And then you're gonna press one day and that's it. So four days a week, you're gonna go in and do no more than maybe three work sets and split. That's it. That's right. Perfectly fine. Perfectly fine. It'll help prevent you from detraining. Like I said, for the deadlift, I often see guys that get PRs there for reps. And then the flip side of this is, is if you're in a time of chronic stress, but you have a day that's pretty decent, it's very easy to add a second lift on that for one lift a day. That's right. So if you're like, if it's squat day and everything's going pretty good, you can do your three sets of five squats, your five fives or wherever you're at in your life. And then you can go ahead and deadlift or row or add a little something on the end of that if you can tolerate it that day. Yep. Is there anything else that you would do, a blanket recommendation we could make for an intermediate? No, I think that's, again, I would tend to default on the left end of that spectrum of being novice intermediate, early intermediate those places. I would tend to try to stay heavy and I would reduce volume and frequency first or I say frequency with a one lift a day program, you're training nearly every day, you're training four days a week, five days a week, maybe even six days a week, but you're just doing very low volume per day. But I would tend to stay heavy and as you get more advanced, especially if once you've been really, really strong, I think my experience has shown that it tends to be better to reduce the intensity and up the volume a little bit to not put the pressure on yourself to chase the numbers in those times of chronic stress. And, you know, again, we'll probably end up with 25, 30 emails out of this episode about specifics. Like, hey, love the podcast. This is my specific answer and man, it's everybody's different. I talked to a friend last night, a longtime friend who's pre-retired and he's retired from his first job and basically a commercial airline pilot for the most part where he literally flies private eight days on and then eight days off. And then the eight days that he's off, he owns a gym, he's like, I can train and in my eight days on, I'm staying at hotels. And there's just no opportunity to go to a gym. What should I do? I said, well, then one week you train and one week you exercise and one week you train and one week you exercise.  And I travel all the time right now. And I've tried to, 2019, I'm trying to cut back some of my travel schedule, but I'm in hotels all the time. Certainly a lot of times I travel and my travel is I'm at a gym and so I can train because I'm there teaching a seminar. But if I'm there in hotels, I absolutely think there's value in going down to the hotel gym and knocking out some dumbbells and knocking out some kettlebell swings and walking on the treadmill for 10 minutes because for me, it's about habit and the way it makes me feel. And often I'm stressed anyway when I'm on a business trip just. And what else are you gonna do?  Like it's just, you're gonna go to the bar and drink is what you're gonna do. And so like you can go to the bar and drink or you can go down to the gym and you can knock it out. And those hotel workouts take 30 minutes and I feel good. So yeah. So this guy is like, hey, eight days in a row, I can't really train and then eight days I can do anything I wanna do and I can train really hard. And he says, what do I do? And I'm kind of strawman. I don't know if this is what he said, but oftentimes people, they think that there is an optimal answer that they're gonna get. They think that there's something that can actually be done. And the truth is everything that happens in the world is reality. And there's nothing that you can do about reality most of the time. And so we've got this thing in the modern world that's gonna scientific management, this Taylorism thing where we think that everything can be completely optimized, that there's no situation that's not amendable. And life is in fact, not that. Your life is what it is.  If you stay married forever, one of you is gonna bury the other one. Like stuff ain't good. And there's nothing we can do about it when those things happen. It really can't even be managed. We just have to do the best we can. Because the truth of it is, is that we train to live. We don't live to train. So be kind to yourself when that stuff happens. Don't apply the stuff you learned in business school to it. And try to be a person. Comes back and certainly don't wanna make it a sort of trite thing, but it comes back to the reason we do these voluntary hardship sort of things. There are times we choose voluntary hardship so that when hardship is involuntary thrown upon us, we're better prepared to handle the thing. Right? Yeah, that's a good point because a lot of people, if you haven't been through LP, there's no way you're gonna have a car wreck and then squat. Right? But, you know, so people that, you know, we're lucky enough to have put ourselves in a situation where we're trying to figure out how to stress ourselves more. And a lot of people, when the bad things happen, they collapse. That's right. That's right. That's really what we're doing with voluntary hardship is we're trying to train our bodies to better handle stress. That's really what we're doing. And that means that, and so in periods of time where stress is outside stress is relatively low, I can choose to force my body to go through hard things and higher stress in order to recover so that when stress is high, my body is better able to then handle that stress.  I'm gonna have to do a show about empathy. I don't wanna do a show about empathy. Oh, yeah. It's gonna be... I don't think you and I are the right guys to do a show about empathy. I am absolutely the right guy to do about it. Are you? Yes, I am. Okay. But that's been another Barbiologic podcast. If you have any questions, save those and ask a friend. Ask a friend. We'll answer your questions. We like them. Talk to you soon.


show baby step, bullish sign that this whole range, whole right, this whole downward range could finally be broken and that's kind of what we said we go into this week. Welcome to Access a Trader, the number one community for those who are committed to taking control of their trading in order to achieve success, profitability and longevity. Thank you for joining us. Here's Dan Shapiro to help you find your edge, master your process and own your future. Hey guys good morning everybody. Welcome to another edition of the Access a Trader.com Nightly Update or Weekend Update show. Hope everybody is having a start to their weekend pleasant start beautiful weather we're having so knock on wood life is good because again we're all alive and we are all healthy. So let's talk about the market. We are right on the doorstep of the elections okay which means that a lot of fund managers, a lot of index funds, a lot of hedge funds or even a lot of more experienced individual traders are pretty much in a holding pattern okay I don't think anybody can turn around and say look we know exactly what's gonna happen after November 3rd we know exactly what's gonna happen with the whole stimulus bill that by the way we had a you know a line in the sand last Tuesday and here we are Saturday morning and nothing has been done yet so all lines in the sand or just as much as worthless as anything else so there's a lot of uncertainty okay yesterday we had the highest spike in corona cases at this point so there's a lot of things up in the air and what you're going to see when we started seeing into the latter part of last week Thursday into Friday there's going to be many days that you are really going to find a lack of value okay and that's kind of what we saw on Friday was one of more slower sessions that I can remember in a very very long time especially in the beta the tech space and we'll get to that in a second but what I think is going to happen between now and the election day and again like I said in previous videos I don't think once the election results are released I don't think it's gonna be one of those you know smooth transitions that Trump or Biden is going to bow out gracefully with the results I think there's gonna be a lot of dispute I think there's gonna be a lot of doubts and there's going to be a lot of indecisions of what's happening next with the leadership of our country and these are all things again Wall Street doesn't like Wall Street doesn't like anything that is up in the air okay I think that's it's a very very known fact that when there are things that we are kind of out of our control ranges are going to tighten up and that's kind of what we we want to understand as traders again most days you're going to have really aggressive channels okay because again especially the stocks that I trade you know the tests of the world Netflix Zoom you know beyond the video stuff like that they're gonna have natural big average two ranges so you could always spine on most days some value either to the long or through the short side and obviously when there's a macro confirmation you know you're going to get really really exaggerated value but when things are kind of in a holding pattern and we're what you know we're kind of waiting to see what happens next with a possible vaccine or stimulus again everybody is hoping that the Democrats and the Republicans could kind of find their way and finally just kind of get a deal done just get it over with again it's not going to really reflect what is going to be the guaranteed next move in the stock market but at least it's one less thing overhead so hopefully by the time this broadcast is released hopefully there'll be at least a deal done maybe Saturday maybe Sunday Sunday night maybe Monday but hopefully just get it out of the way one less thing we have to talk about so I think between now and the election day I think if you are especially a day trader somebody who trades in the intraday ranks I think you just have to come to the grips that every single day might not be your day and I'm not talking about P&L wise I'm talking about the idea that something that organically you trade every single day is just not going to be available for you for a value to your situation and if you look at most of the week Monday through Thursday we're really really good matter of fact if you look if you've been watching this broadcast again there was really good value to the downside we talked about the macro move in the queues a couple of days ago that finally broke we talked about the queues reclaiming supply on Thursday's video now we're going to kind of talk about what happens next what I think is going to happen next or it should happen next if technicals confirm but again you have to be a grown-up about these things so again if you're trading you know if you're trading the futures for example if you're a mini trader and the ranges are just not big enough for you to take advantage of a possible macro move you can't squeeze more water out of a rock you can't just put on a trade and hope it goes in that direction for expect expended measure potential same thing with stocks like if I'm trading the video and the video is a tight range for like five days and there's just no room for a trade I have to be an adult about it or give away my money again there's only two things you can do so I think going into this week maybe even into the November 3rd deadlock election day I think you're going to run into a many more days that are in a holding pattern I get you have two choices either try to squeeze water out of a rock or maybe kind of sit those days out against we talk about all the time we don't trade because the markets open we trade because we get value so I think you're going to run into more days from now till November 3rd that are like that but if we do get macro channels that do confirm okay and that's the most important part the macro channel not the intro they move that you can squeeze out 50 cents a dollar dollar 50 in a trade we're talking about the bigger macro channels once that confirms that's when you can see a bigger measure potentials and those are the days you get your jacks you get your queens you get your kings you get your aces and those are the days you do usually do very well and that's kind of the segment where we're going to right now in the queues if you look on Friday although if you look at the scoreboard towards the end of the week you saw the Dow and the Nasdaq down about 1% for the week the S&P about down 5.5% which is actually great considering we've been literally down for the last two weeks right 10 days in a row two weeks of trading literally down so the idea that the bulls actually held Thursday's area held the 50-day moving average and you can see here on Friday reclaimed the five that is at least an initial baby step bullish sign that this whole range whole right this whole downward range could finally be broken and that's kind of where we segue going into this week so here the levels that I think are going to be very very important now again we can't assume that these levels will be confirmed we're just talking from the point of if this happens then stock prices will follow higher if we start closing below the 50-day moving average obviously we go lower so the big number going into this week on the QQQs is the previous days high that got rejected off the five-day moving average which is roughly 286 right 286 a reclaim of the bulls and they start building over that number give us an organic move to 288 which doesn't sound like a lot but that's the birth of the trade again if you've ever watched his broadcast and you really believe the theory of technical analysis works which it does you can see how twice it got rejected here at this 288 level which is the 10-day I call the 10-day moving average the birth of the trade so if we can reclaim and again these are baby steps you don't want to put the cart in front of the horse but if we can reclaim Monday this 286 level and close above 288 then we have a big macro potential big macro measure potential to go right back to this 295 295 297 level the highs that we put in on October the 12th so it's kind of important again if you believe in the bull thesis the bull sentiment that this has to happen right 286 288 and then we have a big big moonshot to the 295 297 ever however right again because there's always two sides of the market the trade if we confirm the move that we had on the 22nd which was Thursday the 50-day moving average any close below this 280 281 level on the cues again is going to start a natural selling cycle now again a lot of you guys still don't believe the technical analysis is kind of important you're you're gonna believe right you're gonna really believe if you're on the wrong side of where the cues confirm either down to you know down move back to 277 or up to the move of 295 so again you could say what you want you can have your opinion of what's gonna happen five years from now we don't know what's gonna happen a day from now let alone try to predict what's gonna happen after the election or even further down so this is we use technical analysis as a guide okay there is no guessing we're not smart enough to guess okay I haven't yet met a trader who's smart enough to tell me what's gonna happen tomorrow without technicals kind of matching up to their theory so it's incredibly important that we let these areas play out okay right big basic stuff 286 to the upside starts an initial move 288 macro move starts an aggressive move any close below 281 we start having the conversation to the downside very very important if you go through charts and again I really encourage traders to really really embrace this business again even if you trade once a week okay if you trade once a week or if you're a full-time trader okay this is not a business that you can take for granted this again this is the hardest business in the world for a reason so even if you're trading once a week you still have to put that full-time effort so if you're going through charts and again every single trader no matter if you're trading for 10 weeks 10 years or 30 years you have to put in that work every single day okay and more on the weekends because again you at least will have a little more downtime but again in this business you get out what you put in and there you can't skip steps okay you really can't you really have to put in that work and make sure that you really understand what potentially could happen next measure potential or your potential dangers if you go in every single day blind and you're in your your only your only research is five minutes before the opening bell to see what $2 stock you're buying of 500% you're not trading you're guessing again you might as well bet sporting events at least you have a legitimate chance of betting you know betting the favor team so be very very important take this business for you know take this business seriously and really do put in that work so if you look at a lot of names today and there's a lot of names especially in the Nasdaq 100 have already started breaking out ahead of the Q's confirmation which is very very bullish if you look at charts like Google big big move on Google if you look at Facebook big breakout on Facebook you're starting to see stocks strong leadership and again granted maybe they're running ahead of earning season this Thursday coming up you have the Super Bowl of you have literally the Super Bowl of tech stocks you got Google you got Facebook you got Amazon you got everybody right Microsoft so this week we are red snapdab into tech earning season we're going to get a lot more clarity but again it's a really good thing that as the market was coming in for two weeks you're getting the breakouts and these really big aggressive cult like stocks Facebook Google and stuff so it's very very important again we kind of try to get as many clues as possible but again really good stuff here and if you start looking at charts that are about to come out of range is you know names you know like a Microsoft right they're kind of mirroring the Q's you can see how right you can see really similarities of what the Q's chart looks like and what these individual equities look like they're very very similar so if you look at Microsoft again it might be a day away if you look for example like an Uber right really really good aggressive November and December $40 call buying again it's very very close as the market was selling off this week with this thing was just building building and building and all it needs to do is confirm this channel here so you're getting a lot of really good value even this even the leisure and you know the leisure travel space if you look like Las Vegas Sands you know it's like one day away maybe two days away from really really busting out so you have a lot of really good value plays if these indexes confirm even banks for example and again these brokers and banks in my opinion they like rally like literally twice a year even JP Morgan is very very close to busting out this top of the channel so everything is lining up for us on the positive side this week we just have to wait for everything to confirm that's it we have an opinion we gather the data we did the research we're prepared for Monday's session all we need to do is have these things confirmed so you know again I have to give the bulls the benefit of the doubt going into Monday's session and again assuming there is a deal done or if there's not a deal done at least we are prepared we're not going into Monday morning blind you know blindside of what could happen at least we understand where everything else so let's talk about Friday's session again what in my opinion one of the more slower sessions of the week you really had to sit there tight and find the value okay they just didn't just jump at you it wasn't like one of those days if Amazon confirms and Facebook confirms although Facebook is very very strong it was one of those days you really had to kind of grind it out and if you watch the action the first especially like the first hour hour and a half or so you really did not get aggressive option flow even into next week's potential earnings nobody was really positioning so you kind of saw the big aggressive big money kind of on the sidelines and the action really really reflected and if you if you look at the pivots it really took some digging to really get going for the day and I said this is one of one of the slower days that I can remember in a very very long time so let's talk about this letter you gave the initial move to 104 I still like this setup it gave the initial move to 104 and then the second entry just never happened okay just never happened so I still like this letter you it traded to 104 if this thing can confirm 104 next week who knows you can get a big big run but again guys this is what we talk about second entries you let the stock go through the pivot put in a high letter retrace and once it goes right back to that pivot that is the second entry so I still like this thing into this week but again just didn't confirm the proper way uber 3690 37 the high of the day was 3699 again did not confirm this one was pretty good we actually covered beam in the previous night's video 36 needs to be needs to build beam put up a really nice move here so if you look at beam here is the 36 confirm the 36 went to 38 and change really really nice move on beam congrats for all you guys who took the trade again that's the whole point of what we talked about there wasn't value in in beta right we haven't even talked about not one beta name yet again there was a nice pivot on tesla towards towards the middle of the day but there was no value at least for from from my point of view from the stocks that I trade there was really no big value there draft kings never got to 44 zoom never got to 531 I like this sonu by the way it started gapping up after the close I think it was trading 1620 1630s this is one to watch for this week look at it look at the chart look at the daily chart here right this is one to watch if you could see the 16 minute view after the close it was trading 1620 1630s I didn't see the news on it but we got to watch this thing they were coming in for they were coming in for the December 1750 calls I have to check I have to check if that covers earnings but this is a really nice looking chart keep an eye on this thing again there was no nothing confirmed Roku 2550 26 needs to build never even got close Allergen was a big move congratulations for all you guys who took Allergen but again the common theory is no beta name is confirming Allergen rejected 459 twice needs to build Allergen took off congratulations for you guys who caught this trade here was the 459 put in a $10 move so big move on Allergen and I kept on saying I look sit tight I mean there's no edge here sit tight again there's nothing guys remember there's absolutely nothing wrong of waiting for your setups to play out okay it's it's not a it's not a measure of weakness it's a measure of maturity so again sitting on hands when nothing is playing out is completely different sitting on hands when the market goes down again there's people a lot of people use the excuse cash is a position sit on your hands because they don't have the ability to trade from the short side but again if the market is dead and the ranges are contracting that the smart the prudent thing to do the adult thing to do is kind of wait till things play out so again big big difference so big move on 36 here is the only beta name here was absolutely the only beta name that took off for the whole day and again you can see here painfully slow day Tesla 414 strong base for cash flow keep an eye on that so here is 414 here is the 414 on Tesla let me just show you guys so here is the whole 414 level here you see this 413 84 413 39 so 414 started a really good move on Tesla when it's highest to 421 and you know Tesla starts building who knows maybe slowly could start moving back up so that was literally the only beta name that confirmed for the whole day but that's okay okay that's okay it's again is what we say this all the time it's not how many you trade it's how many you trade properly again if you if you have ever wondered about pivots and you want to check it out you know try you know try the the try the the webinar for 30 days if it's a good fifth it's great again pivots are not for everybody again if you have a $2,000 account there's no way you can trade pivots but again if you've ever wondered about pivots you know definitely check it out it'll definitely give you a kind of a different look at the market that you're used to you know not the normal so it's kind of it's kind of a cool way to trade that most people are not not subjected to so guys have a great great weekend again bullish to start the week we'll see if it confirms and if not again we we look back the other way guys god bless i wish you all the best of luck and may god continue to bless you take care guys


So, Mark, you were talking on investor talk this morning today about how your real priority is to raise production. How about we start there? Yeah, absolutely. The acquisitions we've made down in central, light oil acquisitions we've made down in central Texas, where we bought about 30 barrels a day of light oil and it's about 80% oil and 20% natural gas production. We've been able to grow that on a very, very cost effective basis up to 177 BOEs a day, which was our last pressure lease update and we're continuing to grow on that side. So, yeah, obviously, buying small amounts of production is great. It gives us a footholding, gives us a base, but to be a relevant oil and gas company, we need to significantly raise that. And we also need to do it in a cost effective manner, Tracy, which we have been able to do. We buy about 20,000 EV per flowing barrel and so far we've been optimizing at about $2250, $2250 EV per flowing barrel. So there's a huge value creation with our blended costs at about 7,000 per flowing barrel to the listed light oil permeate comps that are anywhere from 35,000 at the low end all the way up to 70,000. So growth is key for us and that's what really investors should focus on as a new startup company down in Central Texas. Of course, you have capital, you've got money at the bank and you've got a tight share structure. You want to give those out there who are new to Wedgemont, a little bit of an overview on that. Yeah, absolutely. We raise significant capital this year between private placement and warrant conversion. We've raised over $3 million this year. We've deployed a lot of that capital in the field. We still have over a million dollars on the balance sheet and that capital, as well as the operating cash flow we're generating. Because even though we're small at 177 bues a day, we still generate positive operating cash flow. So between those two factors where we continue to have the capital in which we need to go and make further acquisition and further optimize those acquisitions to grow production, we're optimistic with the cash we have in the balance sheet and the cash flow we're generating the field right now that we will be close to 500 barrels a day before year end 2023. So there should be a lot more growth to happen and we don't expect further dilution in order to get that growth. Compound and I would argue that you have a very competitive technology and you told a story to your audience earlier this morning that I thought was fantastic. You really made it easy to understand. Can you explain to our audience what that technology is, please? Absolutely. So we use proprietary chemicals. Now for the audience members who understand the oil and gas energy, pretty much every oil and gas reservoir in the world, whether it's Saudi Arabia, whether it's Russia, whether it's Western Canada or Texas, you use chemicals in your producing formations in your wells to optimize production. However, not all chemicals are created equally and local expertise is absolutely key for using the correct chemicals to get the correct results in your wells. So our wells, for example, have issues in central Texas, light oil, which is the second biggest producing basin in the world after Saudi Arabia, the Permian Basin, where we're located. There are issues with paraffin, which is basically wax, asphalt teams, which is like gooey asphalt. Think of it like that and scale and our partner's proprietary chemical technologies attack all three of those issues, not only in the well bores, but in the producing formations. So to give you an idea, after we do a chemical treatment, we've had an over 700 percent increased production average. That's not our best. That's our average in our wells by doing these proprietary treatments. And these treatments are not something that's just overnight or brand new. Our partner has been working as a chemistry background and she's been working on these for over 20 years to again specialize them for our career. So when we make an acquisition in the central Texas area, that's always in the back of our mind. We have the same playbook. We're going to optimize through chemical treatments and we're going to also do conventional well workovers, et cetera, optimize surface equipment in which which enables us to grow. And most importantly for shareholders, enables us to grow at a very, very low cost.  What should shareholders anticipate in this upcoming quarter, Mark? Yeah, the for the next quarter, people should look towards us adding a couple of more assets, which we can grow.  Like I said, I'd like to see us over the next quarter or quarter and a half be closer to that sort of 450 to 500 Bues a day. So growth, it's absolutely key that we deploy our capital and show growth because even though we're small now, we have a lot of running room in which to grow to make us a more sustainable and significant company. We're still cash flow positive even at these low production levels. But once we get to 500 barrels a day to a thousand barrels a day, it's going to give us a whole ton of capital flexibility in which to acquire further assets and optimize those assets. And most importantly for shareholders, generate significant funds flow from operation. Well, thank you for joining us today, Mark. And for those interested in more information on Wedgemont resources, please go to the following website. Thank you. Thanks for having me on, Tracy. I really appreciate it.


So this is the new procedure. I have to start the hangout then start Alpha geek radio Alpha geek radio video. So Alpha geek media However, I will forget that probably tomorrow Okay The first day back. I'm like, ooh, I got it all done right. All right. Good man. Thank you You're very kind Shall we do this do it Daily tech news show is brought to you by me. You're welcome But it's also brought to you by over 4,000 other people who also find some value in it every day If you listen for the next 30 minutes and get even a little bit of value out of it yourself Consider going to patreon.com and searching for Daily Tech news show and giving some value back Now roll that beautiful theme music This is the Daily Tech news for Monday, August 24th, 2015. I'm Tom Merritt and it's so good to be back I miss doing this show for a week a week Veronica Belmont is here. She was here last week though, and it went very well. Do you have a good time? Yeah, we had a great time Roger and I how was your assignment? The assignment went well everything was awesome people that I work with on that Connected tech show that I was out filming last week are fantastic, but man. I really missed this It's so good to be back. Yeah Well, thank you. Happy Monday to you. Let's do some headlines TechCrunch reports Microsoft launched the first public beta of Cortana for Android You can have Cortana on your Android tablet or your phone set a reminder search the web track flights Such should like things that Cortana does however unlike on Windows you can't just say hey Cortana to activate the assistant I was leaving a space in there so I don't actually activate people's Windows phones So you can't do that? You can't open apps or toggle settings with Cortana and the beta is only available in the US right now But you can get it if you're in the US at play.google.com slash apps Slash testing slash com dot Microsoft Cortana will have that link in the show notes, too I can't test the desktop version yet because my Windows 10 install has catastrophically failed Once more after a week of attempting to repair it. So it installed it upgraded fine, right? the first time we had going from Windows 8 to going to 10 was fine for several days and then I got a critical process error failure and went back to Reverted back to Windows 7 and then was able to do a clean install of Windows 7 start everything fresh go to the factory restore and then Upgrade back to Windows 10 which was a bad idea because I'm back at square one again as of this morning So fine new computer me. That's what that means But but now you can put Cortana on your Android phone. I have that definitely I think why just before we do move on I want to say like this This is another good thing to see. I wish that an Android is certainly not the worst of these I wish these other operating systems would allow third-party apps like Cortana to have access To the underlying operating system so they could do all of their functions and iOS is the worst at that Trust me I'm not I'm not picking on Android here and Windows doesn't do that on Windows phone very well either So it's it's not like this is unusual But I do like to see a little more cross-platform functionality going on. That's good It would be very nice for sure avid life media owner of Ashley Madison is offering a $500,000 Canadian reward for information leading to the arrest and prosecution of the attackers Responsible for the leak of the Ashley Madison database Toronto police acting staff superintendent Bryce Evans announced the bounty He also acknowledged receiving two unconfirmed reports of suicide related to the data leak Yeah, that means they heard the reports and they're investigating them So we don't actually know anything more about that detail wise But yeah, putting out a big old bounty there It's interesting because Ashley Madison hadn't really from what I've heard so far They haven't connected with their users at all about this database leak. They haven't you know said anything about it on the home page I believe there haven't been any emails sent out about it. They're going straight to the bounty apparently But I have very mixed feelings about this whole thing I think there's a lot of you know, there's a lot of gray area This is not a black-and-white situation in terms of you know, we're not just getting out there and embarrassing People who are you know having extramarital affairs There's more complicated situations involved and a lot of those stories are coming to the front to people who have you know I mean, it's it's it's a bad scene all in all well Yeah, and we I think you a lot of this was discussed last week, but the lawyers Used this people had other folks sign them up as a joke so their names are in there People who were at a different point in their lives signed up a while ago and their names are in there So yeah, there's there's all kinds of explanations And and context around the leak what is black and white is yeah Do you it was illegal for them to hack in and steal this database and leak it so You know that that part is getting the cooperation of the Canadian authorities The next web reports that Google is testing a new feature that will alert a user if they take a photo in a quote food-related place That's called a restaurant where I'm from or grocery store Anyway, I guess it could be more than just a restaurant. It could be a grocery store. There you go So food-related place and then what Google will do is offer to automatically add that image to the location on Google Maps So it's a way for you when you're using Google Maps to see a little bit more about the restaurant Features being tested by map maker guides of level three or above those vaunted wizards Hmm. I believe they're volunteers who help edit Google Maps But they're testing it right now and the intention though would be to roll it out to everybody Just be careful in German restaurants because the courts there recently determined that chefs hold the copyright over the appearance of their food And even in a photo you take that's fascinating. I don't Yeah, that's nuts like they created that it's like artwork, right? Like you you when you're in a museum. They're like, oh, you can't take pictures of the art They're saying that the same applies to chefs, but fascinating. Yeah, I'll have to read up on that because I'm very curious to learn more LG's upcoming 10 inch g-pad 2 will feature a 7400 milliamp hour battery according to tech crunch Oh boy, the g-pad 2 won't be revealed or get a price until next month at ifa in Berlin But will also feature a 1920 by 1200 display, but that battery dough that battery is the selling point Yeah, right. I mean That's a lot of battery. They're saying two days of use which I think is constant use and my tablet's already with their three there Fit piddly 3000 plus milliamp hour batteries get days and days of battery life as it is that thing will last you forever Subject a title for the episode that battery dough that battery dough that battery dough because otherwise I don't care about a new tablet at this point frankly They're not that exciting but that that's pretty exciting New York Times reports that Intel is part of a 100 million dollar round of investment in Marantis an open stack based enterprise cloud company Intel could help open stack with integration and scalability and make up for Some of Intel's decline in chip sales as cloud services have been reducing server sales This is we don't usually report on funding Happening because it happens all the time but what's interesting here is that Intel putting money into cloud services is hedging its bets against the decline in hardware sales and They're injecting open stack with some some life not that open stack has been dying But you know, it's it's another big name getting in on the open stack Enterprise the open source enterprise there. Yeah In the wake of stock market declines based on fears of a slowing Chinese economy Apples Tim Cook says that China will continue to be a quote unprecedented opportunity over the long term Cook told CNBC that the App Store in China had its best performance over the past two weeks according to Reuters and Tim Cook sent an email directly to Jim Cramer. Yeah, that he was like specifically like I don't know if Jim Cramer had even emailed him first Or if it was just a bit of an empty email I imagined it as Tim Cook like, you know, who's gonna say crap about this. I gotta get to Jim Cramer right now Yeah I'm down there, but that's that's yeah He's he's definitely getting out there and trying to calm some of these fears around the the stock right now But one of I mean everybody's stock is taking a hit right now If you haven't heard most of the stock markets in the world are declining or we're declining this morning Because of fears around Chinese economy economic concerns With Apple they're saying look our phones have been selling. Well, they've been increasing in sales We haven't been adversely affected But a lot of analysts are pointing out that the fallout from the slowing economy may not have shown up in Apple sales yet the market is just now getting saturated and it's not what happened last quarter that investors are worried about It's what's going to happen in future quarters and and while Tim Cook may believe rightly so that sales will continue to be strong It's it's harder to say that for sure. Bye. Bye. Bye That is not an actual financial recommendation That was Veronica saying goodbye to the main part of the headlines and hello to the news from you are No, does that not work? All right. No, I liked that Okay, good daily tech news show that reddit comm is the place to submit stories many of which we have already discussed We don't call out every single single one So if you submitted a story and you heard us talk about it just take credit for it Just tell everyone. Yeah, that was me. But we'd like to call out a couple of them Haterate sent us another USA Today story about how police departments in America use stingray cell phone trackers to find routine crime suspects The US in particular police in Baltimore and at least 35 other cities use the device Which poses as a cell tower in order to track a phone's location within a few yards now use of the device Frequently is concealed not just from suspects But from lawyers even prosecutors and judges in part due to non-disclosure agreements with the FBI from which They get the stingrays Detective Jimmy McNulty may have said I caught him bunk on the stingray. I caught him and he doesn't have to know it That's from the forthcoming HBO series stingray stingray. Yeah on the streets It takes place in Baltimore and 35 other cities around the city. It's an anthology show much more ambitious. Yeah, yeah Star Fury Zeta tipped us off to this story wired UK reports Twitter has blocked API access from 30 accounts from the Open State Foundation The accounts like Polly twoops and Diplo twoops preserved deleted tweets by politicians and diplomats naturally the US version of the service was blocked May 15th We're gonna talk more about this in our main discussion. Yeah, let's just go right into our main discussion story That's why I put it at the end here real quickly though. I want to point out that in the actual show the wire They actually got judicial review of their wire unlike what is described in the stingray And that's a look at the headlines All right, so no, it's not Duplo twoops has nothing to do with child blocks It's Diplo twoops and Paula twoops and it's not the DJ Diplo either. No good point not Things that he said and deleted off of Twitter What is what was happening is is 31? Accounts at one point, but the US one was blocked May 15th have been Notifying you through Twitter if a politician or a diplomat Tweeted something and then deleted it so that you could say hey, you know what they don't want you to see this But this is something they wrote now Twitter has blocked API access for all of those accounts Those accounts were doing that tracking. They've been archiving them. They're still archiving them and You'll see a lot of headlines. They're playing fast and losing them these sites are being blocked The sites are not being blocked. What what is being blocked is they had set up it through the API a way to Automatically tell if certain accounts had deleted a tweet and then be able to post that tweet Before it was it disappeared that way, so it's automatically retweeting it as soon basically as soon as the deletion occurred. Yeah, so Twitter has said that's just not okay We we think it's unfair if people want to delete a tweet for you to pull it back into existence So we're cutting off your API access. Now. Let's be clear. These folks can still look for deleted tweets and Repost them elsewhere. They just can't use the API to post them on Twitter In a letter to the open-state foundation, which runs politwip politwoops and all of the various accounts I know right We have to say these words over and over that is like whoops and different whoops This is what they wanted Twitter said that after thoughtful internal deliberation and close consideration of a number of factors They decided to block the API access and they said imagine how nerve-wracking Terrifying even tweeting would be if it was immutable and irrevocable No, one user is more deserving of that ability than another indeed deleting a tweet is an expression of the user's voice They're saying let's honor the auteur of the twi of the tweet Our John Alpha said director of the open-state foundation in the Netherlands said what elected politicians publicly say is a matter of public record Even when tweets are deleted. It's part of parliamentary history. This is not about typos It is a unique insight on how messages from elected politicians can change without notice Do you do you side with either one of these Veronica in my opinion? It's a matter of public record and I think Twitter should have stayed out of it personally. I think that this is not it's it's Fair use of the content. I believe I think that it's you know if you are a politician your expectation of privacy is less than that of a private citizen and I think people have a right to know what what they've been tweeting about You know, it's very easy to tell if something has been deleted because it was a typo or if because it was a reversal of Their opinion or reversal of their their standpoint because it was not popular or you know a changing political temperature So that's that's kind of how I'm feeling right now, you know, maybe that would change But if I tweeted about it and I was a public figure, I would expect people to be able to see that Well, and you you are a public figure, right?  That also makes you a public figure. So and So I think super extra careful about everything that I tweet Yeah, that exact reason and politicians do too They you you're telling me the politicians aren't super careful I mean, yeah, they make mistakes and they type things that they realize afterwards. Oh, wait a minute. I misjudged But they're being super careful as well. Here's a side note Talking about the right to be forgotten last week the European Court of Justice Which administers the right to be forgotten rules has said that there could be an exception to refuse link removal for quote People in public life in regards to right to be forgotten So in essence Twitter is being more restrictive than the European Court of Justice by saying we don't care We like they are saying particularly it doesn't matter if you're a public person No one is more deserving of that ability than another to be able to Remove something from the public record, right? And I think it is important We already noted this in the beginning of the discussion that they're still able to archive all of these tweets I mean they are but I archive all of my tweets that I archive all of my replies. I'm weird like that I just like having that on record somewhere for myself So there are these companies are still able to do that these these Twitter accounts and like you said They're also able to repost things because they can copy it into a tweet and repost it any time It's just you lose that kind of that immediacy factor and that automation That I think was was part of the draw to these these types of tweets in a way I don't think that what Twitter is doing here is going to have a material effect Because the tweets that disappear that are most valuable to the public discourse will still be noticed How how many times in just in the tech world forget politics? Have we seen something that was posted on Twitter and then removed because it wasn't supposed to be posted yet Maybe it was an accidental leak or something and you see it on every block because the people watching that beat Capture it before it goes away So yeah, I'm not sure I think it's just important to note that Twitter's kind of sticking their fingers into this kind of stuff and I don't know if it's if it's good for them too I mean, there's certain times and places that maybe they should get involved with this kind of thing But why do it here? Why now? What kind of pressure were they getting? I mean Twitter's come under all kinds of criticism for the way they administer their APIs and blocking third-party Apps that they used to encourage to do one thing in fact Politoops had approval in 2012 to do this very thing They went to Twitter and said we're going to use your API to do this and Twitter said, okay That's fine as long as you're reviewing these and making sure you're not accidentally posting things that aren't politicians and and they were not blocked because of bad behavior they were blocked because Twitter just changed its mind and The Twitter's taken fire for that in all kinds of arenas, but this one in particular It's not even that somebody was making a competing service like Miracat was with Periscope This is just somebody using the API for what the API fundamentally is meant to do like we share things Doesn't this go against everything that Twitter has really wanted to stand for in terms of Transparency and kind of changing the world with open discussion and ideas and and using Twitter as a as a As a force for social change and social good. I mean, maybe this isn't exactly change for social good But I think it's important to you know get that information out there and and be transparent and have that publicly available And if these sites are just making that easier for people, I don't see why that's bad Yeah, and and as we've pointed out a couple of times in this discussion You're not actually removing what they said from the public record if anybody noticed it You're just making it harder to automatically repost this The politics account still exists all 31 of these accounts still exist They just can't use the API to automatically retweet so they didn't lose their posting abilities They just lose the ability to make it easy and that That to me says something more whereas we're Twitter saying we just don't like the idea of this So we're gonna put a speed bump in there even if it doesn't really stop it from happening And I'm not sure why I'm not sure why like if it feels like somebody complained, doesn't it? Oh it absolutely does like well, we can't we can't stop them But we can do this for you at least for you for them to do this Costolo was really against that my request here, but come on Jack. We're buddies. It's a new administration. It's a new Really don't want this at the top of Twitter. I don't know this seems this seems very Athetical to Jack's whole thing throughout the years too. So it's it's weird I mean, I know he's you know potentially not going to be the permanent CEO, but Still it seems like a weird move on there Maybe there's a VP or a product manager who's really wanted to stop polytropes for whatever reason and Dick Costolo wouldn't let him do it Distracted enough that he was like hey, just sign sign off on these we're gonna do these changes here. I don't know. Yeah You never know that's pure speculation But yeah, I feel like I feel like it's not a change that's really going to matter in the long run But it's also an unnecessary change because of that Yes, yeah, that's another instance of my notifications not actually turning off when I tell them to start right We got a pick of the day from Comey who says I carry a small GPS logger device that records my location throughout the day It's specified intervals like every five seconds when I come home I download the log to my PC and save it it has all the benefits of Google Maps timeline Which we were talking about a couple weeks ago Such as helping you remember where you went on a specific date when you went to a specific place But my biggest reason for using that is that it's desktop software can geotag pictures from a non GPS camera It does that by comparing the time stamp of each photo against entries in the GPS log He says here's some other things. I like it keeps logging for almost two days. You don't have to worry about draining your phone's battery There's no privacy concerns because you control it you have all your logs You don't worry about Google changing the features Comey says I've been doing this for five years and it works for me I know I'm geeky and I don't mind carrying another small gadget But it's only about 50 bucks for the can more GP 101 that I use and I used a holux and I got you That's the real name. I go to you in the past prices very depending on the capacity and what features they have Interesting it's life logging. Yeah around one of these things, but they're not that big and they're not that expensive So if it's something you're really interested in but you don't want to give any more data to Google than you have to Or for square or anybody else this this could be an option for you Send your picks to feedback at daily tech news show comm you can find my picks at daily tech news show comm slash picks We have a couple of comments on the right to be forgotten that we've been talking about over the past week By the way, I really enjoyed the conversation that Andrew May and Justin Robert Young and Jenny Josephson had on Wednesday And I don't think I agreed with any of them, but I still but I loved it like it was that's the kind of conversations I want to hear on the show and being In the position of being a listener that day. I was I was psyched by it So I'm glad we're continuing to have this conversation Tyler wrote in and said Your commentator denies the dilemma suggesting the perfect availability of information is an indisputable good And people wanting biographical elements forgotten are only concerned about their feelings and can be ignored No mention was made of the difficulties of say an ex-convict Rightly or wrongly convicted could face in getting a job or the re-traumatizing of a victim of a crime from re-encountering news stories about his or her Past are these reducible to feelings that can be ignored as trivial and then we got a voicemail from Patrick Beja who will be on the show tomorrow But he wanted to share this perspective with us today Hey everyone, you mentioned the right to be forgotten on a couple of shows last week And while I don't want to prolong the discussion definitely I did want to point out one issue which wasn't discussed and I think is pretty essential to the debate And that's the fact that the european or at least the french Government has made google responsible for deciding what should and shouldn't be Deleted from their search results. I think whether or not we agree that the right to be forgotten should exist That's one point where we would probably All agree It's the fact that google might not be the best person and you know private company might not be the best person To decide what should or shouldn't be allowed to be on the internet my two cents. Bye Ah, two euro cents. In fact Uh, good point. Although, I mean, I think why are they implied in an article last week that google could just Reject all requests and wait for the courts to work it out and and not be fine like that would be They could just say well, you'll need you'll need to pass it along to the court of justice Uh, I think google's trying to be a better citizen than that and try to adjudicate these things Which then goes back to patrick's point. Is that the right way to do this? I look at it as something that really doesn't have anything to do with What is true? I mean a lot of people have been talking about like well, you you can you you know What if somebody was wrongly convicted? Well, then there should be a story that is updated that says the person is wrongly convicted That's really not what we're talking about. I feel like a good example of what we're talking about uh 16 year old woman Steals a pack of gum stuffs it in her bra and gets caught and wow we talk about reddit bait, right? That is a story that's going to get buzz-feeted and Upworthied from here until forever 20 years later. She's Gone to school become an investment analyst very successful But still finds it hard to be taken seriously still faces harassment because this story keeps coming up And what she would like is to have that story just not come up in search results for her And that's really to me where right to be forgotten comes from is somebody who says look I just don't want that to yes. It's true, but i'm i'm a very different person than I was when I was 16 I or I've reformed I've changed my life and yet I can't stop that Particular story from following me around can I just get it taken out of the search engine? You don't have to take it down off the sides because it's true. I'm not trying to deny it happen I just don't want my name and remember right to be forgotten is just about name and position It's a very limited search that you're getting removed. I could just don't want my name attached to that story anymore I you know, it's it's that that's the kind of example that I think really Gets me about this because you you feel for the people in that situation But I feel like it's going to be abused in so many other kinds of ways that there's no like I don't know if there's a good Blanket fix for this Well, I guess I had does it have to be case by case and is that is that feasible? Yeah, and well, that's what's going on is it's case by case and it's not terribly feasible But that's what they're doing and to me it feels like the problem is symptomatic It's like saying oh you have a horrible rash Well here, let's cover it with makeup when really what you should just find out what's causing the rash, right? And so it's it's very it could seem very flippant for me to say Society will learn to deal with this as we learn the new reality of this being possible It wasn't possible before but I do think that's true I think people who are growing up in this world where everything you do is it can be logged and permanently recorded Are going to feel differently about that in other people Because they're going to understand well that could easily be me and that's the norm Whereas we who grew up with if you have a story about yourself like that in the public It must have been really bad Because lots of stories like that don't make it into the public. They all make it into the public now. It seems like So I don't I don't know I feel like there's a better solution than hey google remove these You know hey bing remember it's not just google It's any search engine remove these links from your search engine and pretend they didn't happen And that's why I really like jenny's idea of some kind of service that can help you change your search engine ranking It's like seo for individual Reputation reputation on sites like that do that kind of thing for a fee And they can be they could be very effective So maybe there's something to this american life episode about it So maybe there's something that can subsidize those kinds of situations for for certain people I don't know. I don't pretend to know what the answer is but this doesn't feel like the right answer To those situations and this should not be used to whitewash people's past And I think that's a a lot of the complaints about it are like, oh well You're going to get politicians and and when we mentioned earlier in the show they make an exception The european court of justice says no public figures probably shouldn't be able to take advantage of this But yeah, the fact that it's now like you've got to remove the link and you have to remove the link to the Story about the link being removed. It just shows that this is like epicycles in astronomy It's not really addressing the fundamental underlying issue It's almost more effective to just like you said get things removed from the front first page Because the the interest level and the click amount drops so heavily after the first first page of search results That just tweaking the seo for other things can really have have an effect. Yeah, let's drive it down Let's figure out easy ways for average individuals So you don't have to be a social media guru to figure out like this is how I can I can take care of this issue I can tell you a couple A facebook page get an about dot me page. I'm an advisor disclosure, you know get any of these like public facing High seo kinds of sites that are going to come up float to the top of the surface and that way you're driving down Other things that's like the easiest way to to fix that kind of problem Well, it's it's much more complicated after that What if the european commission instead of requiring search engines to do to do a cut and you know a paste up job by removing links uh required search engines to contribute To a service that people take advantage of to take control of their own representation And that would empower people more I feel like and it would it would be the search engines contributing to solving the problem In a better way than just like oh remove the link pretend it's not there right Dave from too damn sunny and not enough rainy, los angeles heard that Dave said He is not that impressed by google's on hub router that was announced last week, but He thinks you know listen up google. He knows how to save your router There's one thing that would get him on board He writes a personal vpn that is easy to set up and provides safe surfing on public wi-fi Plus access to your home network just add a secure vpn button in the companion app that you've already installed and voila You've got a direct line to your home network that is easy to use and keeps your data secure While you're surfing the web at that cd dive bar downtown He said this would make it easy for people to securely use public wi-fi and even just make the average user aware That this type of feature exists Hey, that's genius. Yeah, that'd be cool like make it so that it just doesn't I mean Okay, google wants I just set off somebody's phone google would like You to run your data through their servers, which I think is part of why maybe they didn't think of this idea Or if they did didn't include it Because you don't want that you just want an easy way to vpn through your own Server, but come on that's that's gonna make people want to buy this router and use it more. Don't you think? Yeah, absolutely I'm still I still kind of want to test it out a little bit I do I do want to test it out, but I agree with Dave that there isn't Anything particular about the router That makes me think it has a huge advantage over other router options other current router options But if it gets people to just upgrade their routers, which are sorely out of date on their firmware, maybe maybe that's enough There you go Thank you, dave and thank you everyone who wrote in also really before we go a huge thanks to everyone who filled in last week All of the contributors jenny josephson brice castillo roger chang producing the shows It was it was a fantastic week I enjoyed being a listener even though I was working hard I was able to catch the shows either later or in one case live because I had a little bit of a break And it was enjoyable and I hope you guys enjoyed the show too. I thought they were they were fantastic So big thanks to everybody for filling in last week, and I hopefully won't have to take another one of those big long breaks for a while Unless you have a nice vacation Well, yeah, but I want to take a vacation when we always take a break at the end of december anyway, right?  Stop it We prerecord that's when we get the predictions episode and all that cool stuff That's coming at the end of the year. Uh, thank you veronica belmont twitter.com slash veronica go watch dear veronica It is a fantastic show and I say that even Beyond the fact that it's my friend veronica doing it's just a good show in gadget.com slash dear dash veronica What's coming up there? Oh, we've got some good ones. We've got the the guys from my brother my brother and me answering a question Um, we've got what else do we got? Well, we've got some stuff on guided meditation coming up, too So I'm really I'm doing a full episode on on unplugging and kind of reconnecting with yourself and not feeling so Frazzled about our technology over laden lives. So I'm excited about that. Yeah, good advice You get good advice. That's why you should go watch it and gadget.com Thank you to our bosses. I met some great folks in detroit Last week a bunch of people came out to a meet-up that larry patruchin I had and it was fantastic Some of the best people in the world live in detroit and big thanks. I think it was jerry who brought me the, uh, tony packos Pickles as well as the mug Tony packos if you're a mash fan, you get it. It's a clinger thing Really really enjoyed my time in detroit One of the coolest things was I met a guy who's a chef at the veteran's center at the meet-up And then the next day was the next day or the next day after that I was out shooting in this area north of, uh, kamaraca park and he's walking down the road. He's like, hey, tom It's like small town feel the middle of detroit. That's great. Hey chef. What's up? So anyway, thank you to those bosses and all the people who make the show possible If you would like a mug, I can't get you a tony packos mug But I can't get you a dts mug go to daily tech news show dot com slash store Big thanks to everyone who supports the show You can find all those ways the store the patreon everything at daily tech news show dot com slash support Our email address is feedback at daily tech news show dot com. You can give us call 51259 daily That's 51259 32459 listen to the show live money through friday 4 30 p.m. Eastern at alpha geek radio dot com and visit our website daily tech news show dot com We'll be back tomorrow with patrick beija talk to you then This show is part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants dot com Diamond club hopes you have enjoyed this brover boom Boom great show. What should we call it? Oh, I have a good calling I mean, I think I know what we're gonna call it. But really the only one could be That battery dough Do we do dat battery dough or that that dat battery though? Hmm. I don't know I take your cue on that. What is more appropriate? Showbot the person on showbot. That's dr. Payne wrote dat battery dough But then lower down. We've also got dat battery though and Yeah, we've got what devy's got us one and ken from chicago with the alternate pronunciations He said dat battery dough. So I feel like the top Would be dr. Payne. Well, is it doe or doh Dr. Payne says doe Ken from chicago says doh. Let's see. What is the what is the meme really say though? I think we should turn to know your meme for this three Yeah, I think we should oh someone did did nobody do Pollot whoops there it went No Well, yes dough was the original pronunciation, but I don't know if it's the correct pronunciation I see more results for doe than doh Dat though See on on search results for know your meme Yes. Oh, it's okay. It's both are accepted. Oh Doe Doe is acceptable Yes, I believe so Uh, though looks a little more popular the memes Urban dictionary. Thank you. Dr. Payne. Uh has dat blank dough doe Yes, an entry for dat blank dough an alternate spelling for that dat though was added to urban dictionary into memory team all right So it looks like the more common spelling is though tho So let's go with that dat battery though tho so all right. I feel bad for dr. Payne, but you know Well, no, dr. Payne still gets the gets the credit right he gets the win. Yeah, okay Even though w scottis one, I think w scottis one gets to share in the credit Okay, yeah Okay, w scottis one gets the I wrote it accurately credit dr. Payne gets the I got more votes credit How's that good All right, uh, yeah, I should probably levelate this thing, huh? How do you do this? How do you produce this show? Price did it last week, yo That neshcom dough That neshcom That neshcom was awesome I got to go back to my true identity as an editorial producer Woot Yeah There it is well I'm levelating. What are you guys up to? Um before who is in know your meme? Yeah, me too. I got lost click hole Yeah See w scottis one said he will gladly share the victory with dr. Payne. Yay. Good job. Dr. Payne said w scottis one We did it And ellie ellie just smiled and and and it looks cute. She's so cute. There she is There she is All right, I have to bring this forward now Look at her being cute I mean really eventually Especially if we hit the video goal this show will just be showing ellie.  Not one like not interested Roger will just have to have another baby ellie I'll make you the godparent of the second one. So you take it for half the year What I'll make you the godparent for the second one so you can take him or her for half the year Okay, that's the tradition in the chang family Is that so the godparent of the second child Must shoulder the burden for half a year at a time. Yeah I would love a time shared baby. That would be terrific. That would be terrific Yeah, that's disrupts adding to great startup idea. I know No time to raise a real family Airbnb I would like to think list now the all 6125 ways that could go wrong And I really want it But then you could have like the christmas photos It's like, well, yeah, that's my that's my uh air b and b or whatever air baby and b Air b and baby got it done Excuse me. I spent time uh hiking Yosemite with my children, but you don't have any That's my uber baby uber baby uber but for babies uber baby buggy bumpers Oh, there it is Time sure baby equals baby sitting says gun from chicago Where they pay you that's not how you sell it you don't sell it that way You sell it as a time share You deem you deemphasize the the pain of responsibility and upsell the joy What are you laughing at peanut? It's not funny What do you laugh about? Don't eat that So hungry. I want to burrito so bad. I think that I think that's the thing that's gonna make me feel better I don't think yoga today. I think burrito I'm still for burrito yoga Do you keep any like ready to eat foods in the fridge? Yeah, you're not like me go to Trader Joe's and pack up on 20 different frozen. No, not anymore I got too much stuff. I got to get through I'm class any fresh foods A lot of salmon So are you going to order a burrito brought to you by some disruptive service or are you going to go get it I should really walk somewhere. Yeah To the mission you're pretty close. I am. Hey, don't don't geolocate me. Oh, I'm sorry You're in san Francisco. You're in somewhere near there's a burrito place. I'm definitely somewhere close to a burrito somewhere Did you see how close the contender game is to 100,000? Can we just discuss how amazing that is? Yeah, he's doing great So doesn't mean we don't have to pay Justin anymore No, that's fantastic And and not surprising to me in any way. I feel like that's that's like the world being just Yeah, I saw it get written up on um Boing boing and boing boing Not sorts of places. Yeah I hope Justin remembers us when he becomes the next cards against humanity He's super cool and famous. Yeah I'm not sure if he remembers us Cards against humanity I'm super cool and famous.  I was in your wedding. Hmm. No Where are you again?  I think it's a four o'clock eastern. So just a half hour early Good And tom we have to talk about other convention things Yes For short or my schedule's so damn tight Yeah, that's what She said That is not what no, that's what I said That's not what she said What the what oh man, there's a takeover ad on soundcloud What like where they take over the background with an ad Oh gross I can't even tell what it's for Hey Jen, do you need me to handle the archive video? If you want to you can do it every day for the rest of time I'm just asking I need to figure out what I need to get done Uh, if that works for you, that sounds great because it allows me to go on to the other thing I just immediately rose. I forgot to do Okay I've got that problem too. I guess I'd rather much rather have that problem than not enough jobs I'm not complaining. Yeah I agree That vocal fry though Can I get some vocal fries with that? Stop it. You're scaring my kid right discourse here, please I'm a vocal fry cook So getting so bad makes sense. I don't even make any sense So tell me tell me in all honesty Veronica. Did the show cheer you up? Yeah, a little bit What about the baby and the baby no you guys do cheer me up Just I have to send back my I have to send back my computer Why do you have to figure out what's wrong with it? Oh, roger. Don't even get me started. Oh, you know what? It's if you have a if you have a yufi motherboard, it might be an issue Everyone who hears this I don't care when I don't care if it's right now on Monday or later Uh at reply Veronica a picture of a smiling animal of some sort That's already been happening Yeah, could be a unicorn could be an alligator. I don't whatever whatever you gave me that would cheer me up Just um, so I have to get this thing to get this thing to FedEx But my printer is no longer recognizing the wi-fi. So now I have to figure out how I'm going to print the package slip I thought it was turned off and turned on again. Oh, you're right. Ryan did fix that. You're right. That got fixed problem solved I'm so mad at that work. I'm so mad. I hate I that made me even more angry I was more angry after being fixed by the way it was fixed than having it still be broken So Yeah That's just one of those days. It's one of those days. I was born ready Hey, did you or are you gonna play patrick's thing after? No, I played it in the show. You did. Yeah, he did. When did I miss that? I was briefly on the phone. You made me doubt myself for a second. I'm like, I did. No, you definitely played it You definitely did for for some weird reason. I got like three calls from my stockbroker today. I don't really know why This one guy keeps posting the same thing on all my posts on my public facebook wall, which is Do you like country music? Do you want kids? Do you only speak and understand english? That sounds like a bot The loudest Veronica Belmont I've ever heard It's not even full. It's not even a full volume.  That's me I twitch Oh, you guys so many animals that are smiling. I love you. Yay Even the smiling sloth No bunny with his tongue sticking out The smiling fox It's working The cat's not smiling, but it looks pretty funny If you guys don't need me anymore, I'm gonna take off and feed her. Okay. Yep. Thanks, roger Burrito, that's important. No, I have to feed her formula.  It's me Veronica Belmont. That's me The funniest thing that the funny the thing that makes me laugh the most on twitter is sam sikes whenever he just tweets. It's me I don't know something about that. He just tweets. It's me nothing else I just I don't know why I think that's so funny What what what is it again? It's me He just says it's me. Yeah, that's all he says the whole tweet is just him saying it's me. It's me I'm here. This isn't me. It's me What does twitter say when you're actually on the website? I'm so rarely ever on the website I love the website. I love the website much more than I love the app. I just use the app tweet I use tweet bot But I love the the notifications on the web are so much better Why use tweet deck for notifications and they are pretty great. It's not the it's not that kind of notifications No, I mean like things that have been retweeted or favorited the number of people that kind of stuff. It's much more Information filled But you can get that in tweet deck too It's just different whatever Tom So all it says now is compose new tweet Merit Ha ha You have one too. It's you. It's me It's you Okay What now so Yes, Robert. I like the website problem I like the website cannot lie The other websites can't deny when a tweet walks in with an itty bitty space and 140 characters in your face in your face I want to see you get out of this. Let's see you get out of this one Tom Get out of this one thoughts sprung See the thought because he wrote it down Thoughts Thought sprung in your face you get thoughts I like big thoughts I don't have a jingle Ian because I wasn't on the show with the people that make the jingles Yeah, that was Veronica and I guessing on a particular show long time ago Oh, yeah, internet artifact and then of course I stole this one From Lamar himself My laugh sounded very fake it wasn't meant to Ah All right, um, that's it. It's good to be back Thanks for not all leaving Yeah, really I second that and I mean you too Jenny All right, let's see it tomorrow everyone. Bye y'all