cillor shannon no councillor strongberg yes city council president tracy yes eleven eyes one day okay so that passes we're going to complete our public forum tonight then we'll recess and we'll deal with the rest of the agenda we'll go right into our agenda on the 14th so which is that the deliberative items that we have not dealt with this evening so let's get back into that public forum um all right so our next speaker is Joe McGee um I don't see Joe um so zoe caninger don't see zoe okay I'm sorry this is gonna take a little bit of finagling um Maggie McCoy Maggie McCoy I couldn't find you um Hannah Saydeck um and just so folks know um on deck we have uh Hannah Saydeck um Emma Chaffee Sophie Aronson Erica Victoria sienna McGraw Joey Corcoran Liz Kessler Mary Oscar Flemmer Skyler Pierce Matt Kimball Grant Taylor Whitney Joseph LaRiviere okay so I'm going to look for Hannah Saydeck now okay Hannah I found you thank you for using the raised hand that helps enabled your mic um you should be able to go awesome can you hear me yep go ahead wonderful so my name is pronounced Hannah and I Hannah Saydeck and I am a lifelong born and raised resident of Vermont not curling in currently in Burlington I'm here in Cavendish I use they them or z here pronouns and I'm using my voice to add to the support for this Burlington charter change regarding the community control of police as a lifelong Vermont true of color as a working class non-binary queer person and as one who has been here experienced violence of the police in Vermont and in Burlington and has been grateful for my friends and for BIPOC Vermonters for standing up for this for having a new independent community control board to oversee the local police one that includes both investigatory and disciplinary authority one that holds the police accountable to our community that they serve and that's very important to me and to have the community control board being composed of individuals most directly impacted by policing it must be transparent and it must be independent of the Burlington police department so again I'm here to add my voice to the community in support of approving the proposed charter change recommendation and having these proposed changes on the annual city election ballot in March 2021 I'm doing this also for my little cousin who is a woman of color who went to UVM and who's currently in Burlington and so that one day when I go back to Burlington to visit friends that I feel safe and supported so thank you all for your work I yield my time thank you I'm a chaffee I'm going to come to you or chaffee um to be followed by Sophie Aronson I've enabled your microphone hi can you hear me yep go ahead all right um hi my name is Emma Chaffee my pronouns are she they and I'm white I'm 21 and have lived in Burlington all my life until I moved to a new ski this past summer I'm calling in to re-emphasize that community control of police is a necessity which is way past due I wholeheartedly support Councillor Freeman's proposed policy and I stand with the Battery Park movement and in support of the Racial Justice Alliance's Phoenix Rise Initiative the charter change must be included on the March ballot to get it there is not a burden it's a moral imperative and you do not need more time it is way past time to the white council members you must realize that it is a gift to get input as you have from BIPOC members of our community and especially from black women and femmes who have put in countless hours of work towards this charter change and towards your job to tell them that you need more time is honestly laughable I'm especially looking at you Joan stop putting a time limit on and rolling your eyes at black lives you all need to stop acting like black liberation is a burden on our comfortable white lives when it is anything but white council members the police cannot police themselves and if we continue to let them we are not only complicit in but personally responsible for the perpetuation of harm against black people in our community white counselors in Mammarro I hope you know that most of you were elected not because you were the best option but because you were the privileged option now that you are here to not do everything in your power to fight for black lives is disgusting black liberation should be the foundation of every choice that you make on this council and for this city you have to decide whether you really believe black lives matter or if you'd rather just paint it on Main Street and then get to bed on time thank you okay thank you for that I was not able to locate Sophia Aronson or Erica Victoria I'm looking for Sienna McGraw cannot find Sienna um or Joey Corcoran wait do I see Joey maybe Joey Corcoran wasn't going to speak but here we are um good evening my name is Joey Corcoran I'm a white cis woman these are pronouns I've been a resident of board six for the past 14 years I recently retired as a licensed mental health counselor and I wasn't going to speak because many people before me have have said very eloquently what I had already written down and I very much appreciate all their comments and the work that I now understand has gone into this proposal I'll only say that as a counselor who could harm people emotionally and the dynamic of power between counselor and client I was overseeing by the office of professional regulation and I could lose my license if a client claimed I did harm I see this control community control board really as very similar to the office of professional regulation for the police and I urge you as so many people have to put it on the ballot and allow Burlington's residents to vote I think that it is what we need right now to reinstall a trust in law enforcement and to ensure the necessary level of safety for all our residents so thank you for your time I know it's late so I'll see the rest of my time thank you um so Kenninger I was able to locate them so go ahead enabled your mic hi um my name is Zoe Kenninger and I live in Ward 4 I'm white and I use they them pronouns um I've lived in Burlington since summer of 2015 and I graduated from Burlington High School in 2019 I'm on a gap year from Smith College due to the pandemic and I'm currently working as a barista in south Burlington um so firstly I want to second basically everything that everyone said so far I've heard so many great and inspiring comments and I agree with everyone um I want to focus on some of the main questions I've seen when I've interacted with some of the counselors over the issue of the charter change these questions involve why creating a new board is necessary and how it will be different from the current police commission uh firstly the community control board would have a much different job than the police commission as detail in the jurisdiction section of councillor Freeman's proposal the community control board is tasked with investigating complaints and disciplining officers as they see fit based on these investigations the board would have full investigatory and disciplinary power to do this and as it stands now the police commission is not able to do most of these things it's severely limited in his disciplinary and investigative abilities and that is the problem based on this it's clear that these are two very different bodies however the police commission still has an important role to play it's job and oversight advice and review policy are also essential and therefore we call for the existence of both boards to work together supplementing each other in order to hold bpd accountable and keep the community safe um it's not enough to just give more power to the police commission though as it currently exists the police commission is too closely entwined with the police department and the chief of police to be able to investigate and discipline officers in unbiased uninfluenced ways therefore the creation of a whole new more independent board is essential in order to effectively discipline officers and hold the burlington police department accountable finally i want to recall that at the beginning of the battery park movement protest when we called for the firing of violent officers jason bellivance quarry cambell and joseph coro in response to our demands many counselors said something along the lines of if i could do something i would but i can't our hands are tied i am delighted to tell you that here finally is something you can do something that will make a real difference voting to put the charter change on the ballot will help you more effectively keep the public safe from violent officers and you won't feel as your though your hands are tied like that again so i call for you this evening to vote to have councillor freeman's proposed charter change on the ballot to give the people a say and to allow for community control of police thank you thank you all right i'm going to go to liz kessler liz you're next i've enabled your mic good evening i'm a burlington resident and a teacher at sx high school i work daily with young people from so many different backgrounds who are hungry to live in a just community and a culturally affirming space this resolution resonates deeply with me as an individual as well as an advocate for young people in this state the proposed charter change would dedicate space and power to people from historically marginalized communities within the systems that govern burlington this proposed change reflects the concerns and demands of the same people who endure the daily injustices inflicted by systems designed by and designed to serve the wealthy and white residents of burlington vermont's cultural and economic future depends on the implementation of concrete policies that give voice and power to people of color and that dedication of resources to systems that integrate their expertise and wisdom into governing bodies this charter change would result in a well-crafted systemic improvement to current justice practices perhaps you council members harbor some reluctance to move forward with this proposal because you fear that police power would be compromised with the passage of this resolution i encourage you to imagine an outcome in which the dialogue and action among community leaders evolve to better ensure the safety of all especially people of color new americans differently abled folks people experiencing homelessness and queer folks this reform represents a tangible step toward creating space for marginalized voices in our governing bodies it has been thoroughly researched and vetted by community members of color who have had enough of unchecked and deeply biased policing practices here in vermont please listen to those community members who have spoken out and support a vote on the creation of an entirely new and independent board for the community control of police thank you thank you our next speaker is mary lacy to be followed by oscar flemer mary i'm going to come to you hi i'm award three resident i have lived in burlington since 2014 and i just want to say that i support the community control of police board as many have said before me we need accountability from an independent and resourced body i'm grateful to all the work that so many have put into this proposal and i think it's something the city deserves to be able to vote on at the very least i yield the rest of my time thank you our next speaker will be oscar flemer oscar i'm actually i'm going to change over we're going to switch speakers and let the amy bogey from the city clerk's office leave us thank you so much amy for managing the timer for so long very much appreciate it councilor paul is going to take over the timer now um so councilor paul i don't know if you're able to share your screen i don't know if you need there we go perfect wonderful thank you for your help with this councilor paul give me just a second okay go ahead good okay great thank you i'm going to go to oscar flemer now oscar is to be followed by skylar pierce oscar i'm enabling your microphone hello hi my name is oscar i use he him pronouns and i've lived in brovington my entire life i'm showing up tonight in support of freeman's proposed charter change they'll put control of the bpd into the hands of the community where it belongs i'm white but i grew up on norsham plain street with my half sister who is poc she doesn't live here anymore and then this discussion with her recently we revisited why in the city council meeting frustrates me because it reflects many of the reasons she would never in a million years return to brovington for a lot a lot of it lies in representation how this community silences her and people like her it silences them in very direct ways that many of you carry out by suggesting we don't return to the by poc fem voices that have quote unquote already spoken when what this actually means is these community members have been following and critiquing this process from the beginning with a vested interest in their community and their own safety and have followed it more closely than the mayor and many within this council and it silences them in less direct ways where after these community members exhaust themselves to be heard you let this valuable commentary go in one ear and out the other or are so bold as to act as at the extent of this public commentary is somehow a burden upon you literally thousands of people have been calling in since june and a concentrated effort to dismantle systemic racism in our community and the fact that the mayor submitted his own proposal at the beginning of this meeting and that his proposal will likely be considered with similar weight is mind blowing to me when you hold it up to a process of community collaboration that has span months morrow knows he can get away with dismissing countless hours of public input through his bullshit process and balancing the appeasement of white property owners and maintaining our harmful status quo which at any moment can cost us yet another life and that this and this is such a problem and i wish someone on this council would stand up to that and say it's not okay what he is doing because political slickness is nothing new and has actively roadblock change every step of the way it's as simple as this the charter change proposed by council of freeman is what we need in this moment in this moment is fleeting the community with an emphasis on voices of bipoc another historically marginalized group has come out in droves and committed their time within and outside these meetings to critique this proposal and make it adequate for the march ballot which it needs to be on for so long we've needed a truly independent civilian control board for police misconduct with investigatory and disciplinary powers that ensures and historically marginalized identities asleep at the table and here it is please do not let the mayor who knows his days of political side stepping public opinion or numbered at this point manipulate your deliberation process to compromise the timeline of this essential work by pock in this community have once again done the hard work in the community has spoken and the pseudo progressive Burlington political apparatus is once again trying to disempower that if this proposal doesn't get on the ballot in March the redundant time added to this process will literally cost life and quality of life lastly for those of you who have become so callous that the majority of your input in this meeting has been to do your best to wrap up public comment as quickly as possible silencing your constict constituency to have an easier job please consider quitting that job and leaving it open for people who actually want to represent their community councillor shannon at this point it seems like you get a weird power trip over minimizing public input thanks for the time of Black Lives Matter thank you folks can please keep their comments focused on me as the chair i'd really appreciate it i really just really helps the the whole just the discourse in us to focus on the issue at hand if i just if i made the request several times can people i just would ask that people please respect that skyler pierce is next skyler i'm going to enable your microphone hi can you hear me can you go ahead thank you for allowing me to speak i'm skyler pierce i'm assist white woman i live in burlington in ward two and i am in full support of community control of police um we need a board that is independent from bpb to avoid any kind of bias the board needs to have disciplinary authority so we don't have to sleep night after night in battery park to get our city to hold police officers accountable for their actions and to ultimately prevent these actions from occurring in the first place this board needs investigatory power to make sure the public is obtaining accurate police data this board needs to be transparent to the community most importantly this board needs to have representation from the affected groups and need to listen to the affected groups in order to accurately represent the needs of the community freeman and other contributors have provided us with the community control police that meets all these needs that the current police commission cannot cover the current police commission board is just not transparent enough and has limited disciplinary authority the question i have um for you is why not put it on the ballot ballot like why is this something or questioning why fight something that protects the citizens you are all supposed to be represented let the people decide what will make them feel safe we all just want to see some of the authoritarian power that bpd holds disperse the groups that can make actual positive influential changes in our community um i just want to say thank you for voting to not silence the people um you should be listening to thank you okay next speaker will be matt kimball to be followed by grant taylor so matt i found you and i'm enabling your mic hi uh my name is matt i live in ward seven uh i've been at resident brunton for 12 years um i want to voice my support for the charter change proposed by councillor freeman to create an independent community control board to oversee the police um it's pretty evident that the current city charter granting the police chief sole power and firing officers is a conflict of interest anti community and allows impunity for abusive officers approve the charter change so that it can be voted on by the public in march if you truly believe that you work for the people you will make this happen if not you will be voted out it's perplexing to me that this even needs to be a conversation honestly um and it feels pretty offensive to hear that the mayor put forth his own proposal at the start of this meeting um in direct opposition of the goals of the racial justice alliance um it's apparent that this is political fodder with the goal of forwarding progress um i did want to share just a quick story um a co-worker of mine who is a person of color recently disclosed to me that they had stopped working for our organization for the first half of this year um and the reason why is because every time they left their home to make the commute to work um they were repeatedly profiled by an officer at an intersection where they were given false travel citations and this repeated incident forced them to resign from their position at our organization as they could no longer afford to keep receiving these citations um and the complaints they submitted to the department were subsequently ignored um i find this beyond acceptable that this is happening in our community so please stand on the right side of history and don't allow your fear to disrupt the lives of others thanks thank you sorry i had trouble finding some folks um for the next round the next speaker so look for grant taylor um person who just signed up as whitney joseph la revere ella causer causer and rachel seagull amanda schian found you so i'm going to go to you next and amanda is to be followed by um clark so i'm going to go to amanda first and then we'll go to clark and it looks like you need to unmute on your end amanda okay go try and find clark i am not locating clark amanda okay i'm seeing you again um and it looks like you're you have talking permitted so you should be able to go okay i'm not able to hear you amanda looks like you're muted on your end hi i'm so sorry to leave you waiting can you hear me yep go ahead first of all just thank you all for staying later i really appreciate that and i also appreciate i don't agree with everything that's being proposed but i appreciate the care that's got into what you're all working on um tonight i'm going to focus on just cause eviction i've sent separate comments on the police oversight charter change at i think some of that language is problematic and is leaving us up for litigation but i sent that email separately um with regards to the proposed charter change for just cause eviction i want to thank you for the care that was put into that it was initially exciting for me i've rented all my life and this proposal felt like a victory for tenants but as i've listened more and read more about how this charter change may affect the community at large i have some reservations about the language as it's proposed it doesn't allow enough flexibility for landlords to evict tenants who create hostile or threatening environments for other tenants or for the landlord the threshold for proving criminal behavior is high as it should be um but this means that people may feel unsafe yet have little measure for relief if this charter change passes for example sexual harassment it's not really something that you're going to prove criminally another point of issue is that landlords may find themselves in challenging financial situations and need to live in one of their rental units i've seen this happen among families experiencing divorce perhaps more importantly this proposal is onerous for landlords and creates less incentive for them to take risks on leasing to tenants with little rental history or a troubling past because they'll fear that they're going to be permanently saddled with problematic tenants as a younger woman with poor credit and no rental history or cosigners i face challenges in finding people to take a chance on me and i worry that we have so many people in this community who may have criminal records poor references or bad credit and this is going to create a more challenging environment for people to take risks on them and get them into long-term housing i would ask you to look to what Portland Oregon has done which allows landlords to evict tenants without just cause but they have to pay a month of rent to tenants this would encourage landlords to think carefully about evictions will also allowing them to remedy for extenuating circumstances the proposal as it stands now may reduce eviction i think it will but it'll increase discrimination and make it harder to get people into apartments thank you so much for all the care that you put into this you our next speaker will be Phoebe Perrin to be followed by Sophie Howitt um Phoebe i located you and have enabled your mic um hi i already spoke earlier tonight so i'll yield my poem okay thank you for thank you for that i apologize i sometimes folks the the form will sign up to white well okay so Sophie Howitt is next not locating Sophie James Martucci not finding James Lee Pratt not seeing Annalee okay Debra Kraft i have located you and Debra is to be followed by uh Betsy Pennebaker Debra i've enabled your mic hi can you hear me yes go ahead hi my name is Debra Kraft i'm a resident of ward one in Burlington i've lived in Burlington for four and a half years and i'm involved in many different parts of Burlington life including the food service industry the music scene cycling community and mutual aid efforts i'm calling to voice my support of community control of police and of the policy that Councillor Freeman has proposed i support this proposed policy because i believe the police department needs a completely independent body made up of community members to provide input when police officers need to be disciplined this way we don't end up with police officers policing themselves this proposed policy has received input from many BIPOC and other marginalized groups in Burlington giving voice to people that are often underrepresented in society and disproportionately targeted by police these are the voices we should be listening to if Burlington wants to take the work of dismantling systemic racism seriously there are police officers in Burlington who have resorted to violence instead of de-escalation who are still serving as officers today as a community member member this does not make me feel safe i feel that civilians should have more power in deciding what conduct is deemed acceptable and in deciding how officers should be disciplined after incidents of brutality or wrongdoing have come to light thank you for your consideration consideration and your time and i appreciate you all staying on late to listen to your community members um i see the rest of my time thank you our next speaker is tom proctor to be followed by and i'll read off a bunch of names elin mcgill um elissa bretta erhard manka uh hazel civilier eric mayer maggie stanley and forest richard Richard and jonathan silverman and so i'm going to go to you tom have enabled your mic so go ahead good evening my name is tom proctor i'm a white resident of ward one i use he him pronouns and i'm the regional organizer for rights of democracy in jithin county i'm calling it a day in full support of just cause eviction but and this does come with a but i am not in favor of tying the city's hands by creating legal loopholes of big landlords uh sorry that big landlords will use to continue using no cause evictions it is imperative that we pass language on the ballot that tells bilintonians that we will consider and create reasonable exemptions to just cause in certain circumstances we must not bind ourselves to language that shall allow landlords to continue to turf out good tenants by using our own language against us landlord figgins more of a huge amount of power over their tenants and tenants made up 62 percent of our city residents this creates a massive power imbalance and with a handful of folks holding power over well over 20 000 bilintonians they've also far more resources money influence and time than the tenants they house by banding our hands for a restricted language we allow the bad landlords landlords this charge to change seeks to target to use their considerable resources to continue to evict tenants for no good reason the issue to spend this next week before the next meeting on one day to come back to the table so we can thread the needle on language and find a way to create just cause language the majority of the council can get behind but most importantly the majority of tenants and the majority of bilinton can get behind i support just cause eviction i support the charge to change and the police oversight reform backed by the black perspective uh the perry has created i also support weatherization this is and has been exhausting work on all of these charge to change measures respect and love all of you that make this your current life's work all the activists that have done so much to advocate and push week after week just to get the right to put language on a ballot in the hope that you can make the city best for marginalized and ignored people councillors please spend this week wisely thank you thank you or i was not able to locate elema gal um so i'm going to go to elissa brita to be followed by airheart manca elissa i'm enabling your mic hello can you hear me yep awesome okay um my name is elissa brita i live in the south end of burlington in word six um we moved to burlington in pro um and have tried to work with the community and really tried to continue to listen to our BIPOC leadership in this community and other marginalized groups um thank you uh to all of our BIPOC um and marginalized people who have spoken and uh really just like used so much so much time and energy to take um into this that they really shouldn't have to use after um you know effortless effortless times of continually talking about their experiences and and um i feel like this council and the city just not listening and not taking action so um i very much support community control of police and their proposed policy by councillor freeman it is clear that this proposal is the preferred form of action for many in the community especially BIPOC and other marginalized peoples which should speak volumes to this council um as the police and the city are supposed to be serving all of its community members and not harming us we are the people we are speaking and we are standing up for what we believe and want and feel comfortable with which is holding police accountable and having community voices input this makes sense as a system to have the community speak if the police are supposed to be serving the community um which with community control hopefully we will be able to strive to represent all in our community especially the most marginalized and most affected by police brutality who are undervalued also in community including BIPOC immigrants unhoused disabled queer and more um i do not feel safe and i feel that police continue to abuse their power and do so continuously and have little or no repercussions um we need a justice system and i think this is the start and we will continue to speak up until there's action change in justice thank you thank you right next speaker is airhard manca to be followed by hazel civilier airhard i'm enabling your microphone can you hear me uh chair tracy yes go ahead great thanks for staying up folks it's kind of hard to be articulate this late hour but i'll try first of all i just wanted to say that i wholeheartedly support and hope that you pass a just cause charter change um i know from talking to counselors on each of the sides of the of the divide around language i think you're close i urge you to stay at it over the next week and resolve your differences for the sake of protecting burlington tenants that really need this reform we've needed this reform for over 30 years i worked on it with counselor pine 30 years ago unfortunately it didn't make it then i truly hope that we can get this on the ballot and pass it and then we got lawmakers to send it back to burlington to craft a good ordinance at the local level i also want to talk about the police charter change having listened tonight you know i have long felt that independent oversight of the police is needed i used to think that we could reform the police commission but i i've been convinced by the work that's been done by so many on counselor freeman's resolution that an independent separate body is is really what's needed and i speak as the father proud father of a young african-american man social worker lives in baltimore is never coming back to the state for many of the reasons never coming back to live in burlington for many of the reasons that others i have cited i've seen him get in trouble i've seen him uh you know harassed by the police not just in burlington but south burlington pollchester really all all all over the region i've lived with the fear of him being harmed or killed by police for most of my uh my adult life he's now 30 years old he grew up with the meli brothers and i just have been was horrified by that particular police action we one of his best friends was tased by burlington police in front of his own mother i hope that you all can put this on on the ballot i would like my son and all of the other african-american folks in town and in vermont who come to burlington and people of color to feel safe in our town thank you thank you our next speaker will be hazel civil year to be followed by eric mayor um hazel i'm enabling your mic hazel i can't hear you yet a hazel i'm not seeing you i have to do that panelist thing um because of the because of the software um not seeing you on here so i'm gonna go um to eric eric mayor i've enabled your mic hey can you hear me yep go ahead thank you counselor tracy president tracy i'm sorry our next mayor um i had written something so nice to say oh which is unusual for me um specifically thinking about counselors paul carpenter and polina um who i really do appreciate in these conversations not because they're necessarily leading the way but just because i wasn't expecting them to have an open mind and they've shown that so i wrote such a nice thing asking them to continue um but i just can't i can't get to that right now um i'm feeling the same feeling that i've felt i don't know hundreds of times before of coming up against just the cynicism and and patronizing behavior um of of certain elected officials who are really supposed to be listening and are not supposed to be um off the cuff just out of out of their own minds last minute coming up with random suggestions that subjectively might be more palatable to imagined future humans this is put this in front of the people like this is what democracy is about um so you know and this in terms of speaking to my fellow citizens this can feel so discouraging and i understand why some people stick to direct action and don't even worry about the electoral but counselor freeman who's spent so much time on this it is someone i met a few years back at a city council meeting um and just watching them come to their position now you know and being part of that process it's just shown me that we can affect change on this level um you know boy the mayor's race is coming up there's four council races coming up in march grace on med is is running in the south counselor freeman and hansen are running again um uh etc so i just want to say that you know that there is something we can do and it's it's probably not trying to convince people that have already proven to us over and over again that they're not listening thanks thank you our so i wasn't able to locate maggie stanley so i'm going to go to forest rich richard um forest i found you and have enabled your mic hi can you hear me yep go ahead my name is forest i use they them pronouns i'm a white queer resident of ward five so i'm especially speaking to my representative chip mason tonight as well as the entire council and mostly most importantly mayor murrow i've lived in vermont for most of the last decade and have lived in burlington for a little more than a year i work in developmental services in the city of burlington and have worked multiple agencies in vermont for over four years including the howard center because of that i deal with mental health and developmental services on a daily basis and i'm very passionate about ensuring the city and its systems work 100 of the time for 100 of the people in vermont we claim to be very proud of a history of institutionalizing mental health my opinion we haven't come close to that ideal i think for instance the case of disgraced chief of police brandon del pozo serving on the board of the howard center i have called in tonight to voice my support for community control of police and for the proposed policy introduced by counselor freeman this proposal has received significant input from many across our community including by pock and others from historically marginalized groups and is informed by models in other cities and the aclu principles for civilian oversight and aligns with the demands of the battery park movement and vermont racial justice alliance's operation phoenix rise initiative this is your city speaking to you and begging to be heard me and my community support the creation of a new board because we're advocating for a completely independent body from the burlington police department we believe that adding these powers to the police commission will increase the scope of that commission past its capacity we believe the current police commission will still be relevant in reviewing and advising on policy related to police the people of the city are passionately working to make ours an example for every city in the country we want real change and we have complete faith in the ability if not the willingness of the council and the mayor to make these important systemic changes and let me just say i think it's insane that in a so-called democracy we have to put this much pressure on our representation to allow us to vote on a matter that directly affects the people let the people's voices be heard lastly i want to state my utter respect and love towards the BIPOC leadership that have worked day in and day out with no pay and very little credit for their undying dedication to change despite the constant burnout that all activists have been dealing with as well as the endless dismissal and road blocking of the city government i love you all black lives matter thank you our next speaker is jonathan silverman jonathan i'm enabled to your mic hi there i just wanted to speak in favor of the proposal for university place um i think more bike lanes and having a one-way street right there would make it a lot safer um and i think it would also set a precedent for a lot more roads in berlington to follow that as well thanks okay so thank you for that um i'm gonna be coming to alex sturgis next alex i'm enabling your mic um and then alex will be followed by why at loose so alex go ahead hi can you hear me yes go ahead my name is alex sturgis i'm a white cis woman i use she-her pronouns on the lifelong resident of this area i'm a paralegal at a law firm in downtown brillington i'd like to use my time to express support for councillor freeman's proposed policy for completely independent community control war with full investigatory and disciplinary power to function alongside the current police commission and for the board's makeup to consist of folks who have been historically marginalized by the police including BIPOC folks lgbtq ia plus folks especially trans individuals of color those who have lived experience with houselessness mental health struggles substance abuse issues domestic violence and incarceration and free of people with former experience or close ties to law enforcement but you know all of this all of you know everything i've just said you know exactly how much come on a community support that this dress has and if you don't you haven't been listening or you don't care either way you have a chance now to open your ears minds and hearts to real transformative change that will impact communities you serve in a progressive and positive way i'd also like to echo what my friend and fellow organizer mel carpenter said about the mayor's decision to post his own proposal just as this meeting began it's conniving and calculated and disgusting the mayor's proposal is cosmetic change not structural it continues to reinforce that mayor morrow is not truly interested in dismantling systemic racism he is interested only in the cosmetic and performative change painting a mural is great and i'm sure it made you feel good mr mayor but anti-racism work is not a self-improvement exercise for white people it does not end when you feel better about yourself it ends when BIPOC folks stop dying this month marks the end of a very difficult year in the midst of a pandemic that is killing black americans at a rate 2.4 times higher than white americans february of this year we saw 25-year-old amadea re go out for a jog only to be hunted and killed by white men who would not be arrested for another 74 days on march 13 26-year-old briana taylor went to bed in her home after a long shift as an emt probably longer than you've had to listen to public comment tonight and was killed in her own bed by police serving a no-knock war on the wrong house on may 25th 46-year-old george floyd went out to buy a pack of cigarettes and died slowly and painfully while a white police officer ignored his repeated cries for help the events of this year has caused many white americans to open their eyes for the very first time to the reality that BIPOC and other historically marginalized folks have known and had to live with for the entirety of this country's history the knee of white supremacy and systemic racism has been dug into the neck of BIPOC americans for hundreds of years while they gasp for air and beg for help you have a unique chance counselors tracy paulino high tower and pine right now counselors carpenter mason hanson and paul in this moment counselors dang stromburg freeman and shannon to relieve some of the pressure of that knee on their neck those of you have chosen to stall hinder and delay we will not forget black lives matter okay her next speaker will be um i was not able to locate white loose or shane keruth so i'm going to go to emily tardy emily i'm enabling your mic hi um can y'all hear me yep go ahead okay thank you um my name is emily tardy i'm 19 years old um i use they them or she her pronouns uh i'm a student at uvm currently living in new haven vermont due to covid but um i've lived in vermont my whole life and i hope to continue to live and work in burlington for a very long time i'm calling in this i'm calling in this evening with current um i'm so sorry i can't read calling in this evening with urgent and insurmountable support of the proposed changes to the city charter involving in burlington's specific model for community control of the place uh seeing the evolution of this legislation from its infancy has been wonderful in that i've seen how public input should be used and applied in city decision-making i mean there's no reason that this adamant public support cannot be translated into action and they urge you to do so uh this process is how the city should operate um please just listen to the public i mean this is democracy right uh this policy drafted by councilor freeman with the help of tens if not hundreds of community members includes and must continue to include full disciplinary and investigatory power complete transparency and zero ties to the burlington police department i mean valvance's initial discipline was poor and it cost the city three hundred thousand dollars and then some to ensure the safety of community members after the police department's initial failure uh this independent body will ensure that this one comes in a timely and adequate manner without bias i highly recommend and ask this change be passed as soon as humanly possible to ensure that this can be on the ballot in march to be voted on and then to be put in action in the state legislatures early as april or may um the racial justice alliance's operation phoenix rise initiative outlined that there needs to be restructuring of public safety i mean this is an actual and lasting first step that needs to happen and it needs to happen now it's essential for the safety of our marginalized friends and neighbors i mean this is how you start to actually dismantle system of racism please remember this is only the start treat this with urgency that the community members have also treated it with thank you hey our next speaker will be sonia buglion gluck um to be followed by linea wiley hean pfeiffer carol pfeiffer and heather bedell sonia i'm going to come to you hello can you hear me yes go ahead hi thank you president tracy and thank you counselors i really appreciate you staying up late um you've heard the calls um many times so i won't repeat um but i wanted to say i am a resident of s junction and i've been involved in the hearings around our own police department and um and we're trying to put together some kind of a community control board in essence as well and so i know that our select board looks to burlington and to the policies that you create i've heard them say this um in their town meetings around you know the declaration of racism as a public health emergency wanting to do something similar to what you're doing and so um you know what you do really does have a ripple effect around the state and um so just wanted to bring that perspective to to remind you that um you know as the i don't know the queen city of vermont you really um your decisions on this really have um effects that go beyond the the city limits and again like i urge you to um ensure this gets on the ballot for the people to actually vote because it should be their decision so thank you and um again appreciate you taking the time to see me i yield thank you our next speaker i was able to locate uh james martucci so james i'm going to enable your mic hi max thank you i can hear me yes go ahead um so uh tonight has been in pretty amazing uh explore exploration of uh a number of different perspectives on this issue a lot of people have brought extremely personal testimony to the table um this is not the first time this has happened this won't be the last time that this happens uh hopefully this will be the last time this happens on this issue with the charter change um but uh yeah with all that in mind uh i'm james martucci i am a resident of ward 8 i use he and pronouns and uh i am a handyman in the area um and i'm here just to voice my uh also my agreement and demand to pass this resolution i mean this uh charter change document put forth by councilor freeman and um just collaborated upon by so many amazing leaders in this community that have been working on this for so long uh and really just uh there's a requisite for this to pass for there to be any real effort uh towards combating police brutality in burlington and this is just so long coming and i'm going to yield the rest of my time thank you thank you our next speaker will be uh linea willie have enabled your microphone hi can you hear me my name is linea willie i'm a cis white resident of wanouski i was born and raised in the greater burlington area and my family has lived here for generations i've contributed to this community as a massage therapist caregiver high school coach musician homeowner and taxpayer first morrell shame on you for your strategically last-minute proposal and for showing exactly where you stand on this that was so shady because this system is bent crooked to benefit me and not in those holding identities with privilege like mine and yours i want to first make clear that the only voices that truly matter when discussing issues of policing in the prison industrial complex are the voices of the black community the most affected and historically marginalized considering the vile context surrounding the origins of policing it has always been necessary to check the fuck out of the powers and intent of this militarized and dangerously protected body in our society and today you have in front of you an opportunity to do so in a state with the worst criminal justice system racial disparities in the country and therefore world don't blow it and don't you dare let our BIPOC leaders countless hours in a measurable labor on this policy be in vain i fully support this charter change which burlington could help pioneer an absolute absolutely necessary restructure of public safety by opening up channels of actual accountability our city officials have handled past investigations of violent officers disgracefully exactly the way the system is meant to function all you have to say is your hands are tied it is absolutely unacceptable that the police chief is the only person in the city with the legal authority to fire an officer accused of misconduct when they hold the most obviously biased position the impunity enjoyed by the officers here is disgusting it is essential that the city creates a completely independent and transparent body with that power and direct oversight over our police made up of our most affected neighbors community control board will provide even more value to the city than anything before with real power to ensure real justice please do your part by passing this change in time for march thank you for your time black wise matter thank you um i was not able to locate um Ian Pfeiffer carol Pfeiffer or heather bedell but i was able to find thea zalewski yeah i've enabled your microphone it looks like you're muted on your end Tracy yeah i think it's possible that that person may have spoken previously i had tried them prior and wasn't able to do it and i see that always in your hand um still see you being as muted on your end okay i don't still can't hear you okay i've gotten through all of the burlington and non-burlington residents and we would signed up um so i think we are concluded for tonight thank you everyone really appreciate it thanks to councilor paul for taking over for the timer um thank you to um everyone for bearing with us with this and i'll be certainly bearing with me with all the tech and everything um always appreciate that and all your understanding um from the members of the public with this so for folks what what we'll do is we're going to pick up where we left off in this meeting meeting we'll pick up with our agenda so not the public forum but the agenda the deliberative agenda we do also have actually a a meeting with the mayor presiding um haven't forgotten about that um which has some appointments about for board so we'll deal with all that stuff um next monday um we're going to start at five thirty um just so we're crisp and ready to go with that um so we'll have that that going um so and we'll get that agenda and meeting warned and all that stuff up so folks are interested which i'm sure lots of people who um spend all the time staying up until 12 20 are wanting to follow along with this please join us next monday starting at 5 30 and we'll um be debating a number of charter changes and we'll go right into um that agenda so thanks folks really appreciate it have a great night


But hopefully, everyone is praying and fascinated. And so what we're talking about today is how do the people in security in the data core? It is, it does. It does not deal with the data. Back in the adversary, it does not deal with the data security in the description. So we're going to talk about data security in Drupal 8. So first off, who am I? I'm an open source developer for public security and coding and most of all, I'm an open source developer. So what I can work with is working with hundreds of local markets, startups, and I know that I know that. One thing is reasonable, and I care about the data. So the question is, do you know where your data is going to go? Do you know it's going to stay in places that's not in there? Do you think they're useful? Anywhere. We've got a lot of data that's no longer just in the database. It is everywhere. And so what we're talking about is, why are we storing the data in those places? Well, the database, you have to keep it in it. So a lot of the times, when you've got the security to your security, they say, I'm going to put this data in it. I'm going to put that into a pretty good to the very best human because no one's going to look at a very best human because it's a description key. And then, I hope you know what I'm talking about. All of you have to do that. But the next thing I can say, play this forever. This question, again, one of us. So if you and me, if you don't like me, ask me to do this for you. Albers, I've got that risk for security and I'll get you to have a good question and then we'll have an indication about it. And then there's a lot of passing. Passing is great, and that's a really fast performance site. But we now keep in data that you have and spreading all over the world, in some places where you may or may not control how they sort of write it so you can see how you can make money passing and where you can see it. What can you do for us in the case that we can't use? So the first step is keep your data. That should be separate. If you are collecting or have sensitive data, can you help and criticize? You are going to have to encrypt it with the process that I just explained. Just so I have no idea what it says. It's basically taking a plan and joining a group vote. If you're physically taking a group in Egypt, you can take any type of stuff in there. So you're welcome to do it. So these are the never-good boundaries. And so starting with a used document, we decided some of us decided that we're going to rewrite this kick-ass in. And we're talking to the RLH, which is right here. So I'm going to get some work on this. And what we decided was that the tick-moss or stuff that you put in is going to be in the RLH. It's going to be a branch of the station for all of us to get work done. So it's going to be a huge start in put-not-go. And there are a lot of us out in the RLH that never got access to a put-not-go program. That's intentional. But if you get what they put-not-go in, you have to, you want to get the ability to present whatever you want to put something out of it. The reason that I just said, and both of us is to create a single-profile input, and you can have your B-primers input in the program. They can have two-to-two different keys, and you can have two people that can extend into the put-not-go format. And the RLH also allows for a five-rowing input, which is a good practicing input. It means that you can start using new keys regularly in some sort of schedule. And that schedule can be quick-to-be by the intercepting of the diagram or by a proper guideline, but if you don't just go on to my presentation case. This is a set of two-piles with a single key that gets released, so it's compromised. It doesn't run on top of the Russian data paper. It doesn't run on B, right away, and that's what that key may help you get. So the way the profiles are done is you can create a new profile, and that's got a new profile to a key, and you can set it for whatever your scripting is, and then, what we're gonna do, you can just call it that new profile. And when data is encrypted in two-piles, you store the profile alongside the data, because it's hard to know if you're using the user profile. User profile on the one side will happen, because if you keep the information, it's not easy to profile that as easy as it is for you. And you better be able to keep the information in place with the new profile, too, you can call it. It will slow down your data to such a big use to the new interface, I think. But, I guess that being quick-to-be itself doesn't actually give you a quick-to-be, so it's only on the side of the real US market. This is the recommended module to use. It's the implementing ADS-166 with HVAC, based on the disease library, if you know of the disease library, it's kind of a quick-to-be for HVAC in person. We're gonna go ahead and put that in the briefcase. These guys are waste-parted analysts that come back. And what HVAC does for those that want to know is that there are translations in the text. In prison, you can actually get it to output a different information, or you can put it to it. And output a different information, you can do a mess with the payload, you can do a similar thing. So there's this model system, extra validation of cases. The data that came in matches the data that's been found. And so, again, these are best practices to use and the ADS-166 provides that. It really puts the bumpers in the bolder way for you to use in person, just makes it taxiconic. The difference was that this talk was more common. I think we go into a high-definition of those two other things that HVAC's people can do. But it actually goes from a, whether they're organic or organic, as you know, it's all in the middle of the site. And during the demo, it was an extra three minutes. We had to deal with people and put it back. There was no reason. And so, the most common implementation of it is the field input model, because fields don't have everything. You can choose that box. The security member field doesn't decide if they're on a form or the credit card input field. It's pretty exciting, but I'm fine with the right data. You can decide now, I want to interpret that data. Yeah, yeah. So, it's pretty simple implementation. It's a complete rewrite of P7. So, you need to use P7 to get back to it. And so, that's the question of access from that. But, probably, being able to completely rewrite these fields improved, you know, a number of areas. One of them being passing. It wasn't really talking about the passing. People's really good at passing. Making it self-performed, and getting access to all the latest classes. In Drupal 7, it was really hard to validate the typical fields kind of on the open page. In Drupal 8, we had a better capability in point. So, in Drupal 7, where you were using the field input model, you basically had a term called field pick. In Drupal 8, you can still keep some of the passing information out. Either our web portal tips and highly-picked, well, this is a lot. One of the things that we've been talking about recently is also the 15 passing policies. And being able to complete it pretty well. So, it was kind of a concept that, even to be a team, you can do it out of each of those. But, in Drupal 8, a lot of classes are in the spectrum. We're now taking this really simple case and starting to expand the part of the list. And with that, we've got green chips, which does all of the green centralization for all of it. If you could get the answer out. And it's not really a fantastic doing. But that's a big part of the encryption. But the most important part in California is the key. And in Drupal 7, the input model is how to come in with the train trip in Drupal 8. And so, we created the key model. Centralized key model, this type of is the ownership of where this input is probably meant to be. The first key model, that's what it has. And then, you know, what's the problem with it? Part of the reason for that was earlier, I think, it's being saved in a certain group of servers. But I'm trying to figure this out again. I always get to all of your tokens. All of your tokens are used in this part of your group. What we do is, we say, okay, because it's going to be a terminal, in the U.S. it can save the U.S. getting a token spoke to this token. And basically, we're just battling some of these so that you can split to see the amount of value that's needed for all of these keys. So if you go to this environment, this is going to be a decent value. Centralizing the one spot, even if you're so used to it, you'll take that over. At least we want to say, you're starting to see less. But, this brings to the fore of why this should be important, because we are collecting all this information. The trip model is a really awesome tool that we know this, but we're not trying to use it to talk about the values and the values. So, it's not just a tool that's talking about this, you know, a lot about the amount of loss made from, we need to talk to our team of you. That should have already happened. We should have been talking about that this time. But, now we also have to talk about security. And let us say in federal regulations, very important rights and regulations, because, believe it or not, our pricing concerns and the other thing that we have to do at the base that we're going to be in the federal range is also part of what we're going to be able to do. So, we've proposed really four policy initiatives to start dealing with these issues. So, giving you tools, you're going to have to do this and how this looks like and what it does. But, it's not going to be the people who will take some of these grills. We're asking you to go through and mark the outcome of these policies and the kind of same policies that we're going to take. And so, we can stand on the foundations that we're going to put in place and what these ideas are going to be. So, we can do these policies by using the solution by integrity and protocol. And, we've got the rights there. Can you talk about how this is going to be done? So, it's like it's a real work. So, you're going to have to say this and see how this is going to be done. And I think that's also important. Just because you have this. So, for the price of your protection, we can do the amount in which it's going to be. Yes, it is important to use it because it's not just because it works for you, it's not just for you. You also have, So, security, you know, it's just one way to do that. This is because it's not going to be some of the different systems. So, this is going to take the action three or two years in a row and find the value of that. So, the other model is actually the story that you said. And so, I thought the story came up with that. It was sort of an open field, so for a minute. And that's exactly the idea that I'm doing. And so, for most of it, it's sort of the machinery of those people and because you can do great grants, you can do a lot of things, but you can do a lot of good grants. So, you can do a lot of good trade, but a lot of good jobs, you can do a lot of good trade. So, the key model of the price model is kind of the core. If you are open to both of us. So, it's worth that amount that we can just as I ran into in a couple of seconds. As much as I want to say that, you know, to us, we need to convey the real value of good data. We should be able to set up the way we're going to keep our funds for a long time. So, for about three years to go, it keeps up the connection to that. But using P, it keeps up the connection to that. Yeah, just to add a little bit, if you have any questions around, we'll put them down for you guys.


My name is Adrienne Defineau. I own Café Paradiso. It was established in 1960 by my parents. As we grow, it's been on operation for 60, 59 years. My mom is right here. The business has been open for so long. My father passed away 11 years ago in 2009. My brother passed away in 2007. Once they died, I came back into the business. It's an area where people come in. They have coffee. They meet friends. So it's a gathering for the community, sharing thoughts, chit-chatting, especially for people that have retired. They'll come in in the morning at 10 o'clock. So there's different type of clientele that comes in at the same mixture of coffee beans for about 40, 40, 50 years. The coffee comes from Italy, and it is toasted in Italy, and then it's shipped. The only problem is the barista. If you don't have a good barista, then knows the coffee time of the day. Now it's kind of hard because of the pandemic. I mean, we have to close at 9.30 at night time, but I can still open. I have paid my staff all along. At the beginning, we were open from 8 o'clock until 3, and then in March, we were open a little bit longer. In June, they gave us the authority to go outside. And that's in June, but then now it's closing. I do believe the young kids have to be able to understand, to make, it's a must that they have to wear a mask. If they travel, you never know when they come home. Their parents, their grandparents, their older, and they infect them all. I hope they're not not gonna close it, but that's what it's given into, especially the holidays.


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