Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to another vlog. It is 4.58 a.m. So clearly I'm so excited to be awake Today I am going to LA. This is the last time I'm gonna say this because I'm sure it's getting repetitive But just in case you guys were new here and trying to like troll for traveling I just want to say this trip will be the epitome if you only see what is online I'm going for not the best reason. It's gonna be really hard week, but I'm only gonna vlog like the good things I just think more than ever like you really never know what is going on in someone's life at all And it was that being said I really really needed to get to LA Which I'm really lucky that I have friends who are letting me stay with them and when Val's speaking at this morning Also, I don't want this video to be a depressing vlog. So I love you guys but basically what I'm saying is I'm going through enough right now, so Obviously I wouldn't just be going to LA if I didn't feel like I've really really really needed to go But you guys are only gonna see obviously the good parts of this trip I'm I know a lot of people have been traveling and like being smart and safe about it I just like the internet ran and we decided to like kill certain people But trust me if I didn't really need to go I wouldn't just be going.  I'm aware, but I still loved it You know what I mean? I'm not the harshest critic, okay? My ride is gonna be here in like eight minutes So I probably need to go downstairs, but I'm all packed up. I'm ready to go. Okay. This is my outfit By the way, I'm wearing the set I showed you guys from Bond and Seek I'm wearing the set I showed you guys from Bond and Seek seriously the Softest set I own so comfortable perfect for the flight This leather jacket is from girlfriend It just this leather jacket is my new one from girlfriend to them But I'll also link my one from misguided that I love it looks very identical to this And it's always on sale for $40 and then I'm wearing converse guys I didn't bring Air Force once or anything these are going sneakers. I brought so Forcing myself to wear them. I used to not be a converse person. I don't know what happened to me I honestly, I think it's just the platform so I'll pick you up from the airport And then I like I actually have probably never been happier read us into my favorite blue bottle New Orleans with Oatmeal guys throwback Literally especially my like old college week in my life logs when I was always here like literally always here Swingers clothes. It is so sad. Wow guys, John and Vinnie. I love you so much I'll never forget you there as long as I live guys my favorite breakfast sandwich We literally went to the blue bottle on Beverly for the breakfast sandwich We're at the blue bottle on Fairfax to sit and eat outside because they don't have the breakfast sandwich on Fairfax So here we are well guys. We are about to record a podcast in the car I don't know. I just really had a vision to do this But it's for the living room, which is my faith based patreon if you guys want to go Subscribe over there. Oh, I found my good mask. Here it is. I always lose this thing um We're just gonna be talking about 2020 catching up what we've learned all these things God that like he does have my best interest at heart And like it doesn't even matter what's going on in the world like he just like how much do I trust that God is like a Healer and that God can like allow me to live Fearless in the midst of like trying to you know protect yourself from a virus and etc So I think I just like really grew in my faith and in my trust for God Like I feel like I'm a different person than I was like six months ago I changed but the studio miss it so much. It looks like Ikea. I know but it's the Pacific Design Center, okay? It's so good. Okay guys, we're going to El Pastillo for lunch Dom is about to meet us No, we can cross this great. Oh, well, no, it's great for them. No, but everyone I saw other people crossing here Yeah, beautiful outdoor dining. All right guys. We're sitting outside at El Pastillo Dom is about to meet us We're very excited. We've got salads. We're I mean, I just had that breakfast We're gluten-free but we're eating the gluten. Yeah, exactly And it's one of those things where it's like yeah, we're at El Pastillo and we're getting salads I but like listen it's hot out and I can't eat a salad a falsely or I can't eat pasta a falsely Got the primavera. Which salad did you get? Oh? You know what? I'll tell you guys later. Um bread. This is my favorite thing ever Did you there's like an Amazon thing that has like the balsamic and the oil together the new port That's what I need But Dom is coming to meet us so we're just gonna be sitting out here very Emily and Paris style, you know Just like outside it okay Don and I went to Barnes and Noble because we needed to get any devotionals because we desperately desperately desperately need to Look at our lives together. I need to get to the altar. Yeah, we said enough is enough, you know Good morning, everyone. It is the next day. I just realized I haven't vlogged since we got our books yesterday But we watched the Bratz movie will don watch the Bratz movie out here about to Have camp again We need to like really get our lives together. Yeah, the momentum is very low on my end truly But um we're we're gonna get this stuff together. So how you about tumblers back in the day? I had a great blog my job would always set my blog up and like do all the oh I'm having a fantastic tumbler. I don't doubt that you would be one of those people who was like tumbler family Oh, yeah, you know 100 very serious about my time.  I love following her my newsletter. I literally just said she's my favorite follow next last week We're at go get them tiger so cute Guys, I'm just teaching Don a lot in this time of being with her. Um actually today our podcast episode one live, I don't know if this is gonna work. Oh sure our podcast episode went live where They've even vlogged my cute outfit I was wearing earlier. I was wearing the cutest revolve set, but it's too hot Anyways today. We are working from home. I went and grabbed coffee this morning I'm just is this is this Okay, um Yeah, so Dom we're just trying to be mentally better and I come home It's new Dom is in her drama still and in bed in the dark. She's like oh, I just work for my bed I'm like absolutely. No you don't this is why you feel this way. I just Open up all the wines here. I'm turning all the way. So I'm actually about to light your candle in here as well Guys here. It's really hard on me This is how I've been living. Yeah done. No wonder. I can't believe you don't this is like you opening your blind screen You keep showing As can see the left. I show all the bar No, you literally cannot guys let this be a lesson to anyone like especially working from home You just have to okay natural lighting is really important. You can't let everything be dark Even turning on the lights, right? Having a clean space Having a space designated to work. I know you don't like that table But I stand sometimes and like put my don't so why don't we just move this table just for the time being out here And we play music and we have a little work session because for the next four hours. We're working here Don't I'm serious. I'm not On this morning at 7 30 and I was like, all right, do you know time? Let's go No, I mean neither of us wanted to do it to be fair, but like it's just not I'm moving this table Can I fit it through here though? Okay? I'm moving this table. This is this light Guys I'm just not letting Dom keep up her whatever this has been Also, I really cannot imagine how isolating being in LA during COVID would be especially by yourself Especially you guys have nothing.   Okay, so yeah, we've just quickly little that a little reset. We're gonna play some music. We have a candle going We're gonna have a very productive Work days Few hours you need to change out of your pajamas as well. You have to wear clothes even if it's just like sweat We don't have sweat. So okay, maybe great. Thanks. That's fine.  Good afternoon, everyone We've been working from home. We are actually about to go get food and drinks at castaway It's like I don't actually know the restaurant there I used to go when I lived in the Valley But it's like a really cool place in Birmingham that has a really cool view We just need to like go sit outside and like chill and just I don't know guys like it's really um We're really trying our best here So that is what we're doing. I'm trying to get this ball up. I promise. I'll make this vlog better. Okay guys Nope didn't like it. I don't like anything that I'm doing right now like I Recorded an intro just now hated it all the fault. This vlog needs to be amped up There needs to be more to okay. Why don't we do something fun? What if we it's not even it's not even really that we need to do something fun It's just that I have forgotten how to vlog. Also. I'm just tired and I'm about to get coffee. I was picking me up Oh, God, it's next to me. Can I can I touch you Mike? I just heard me order. Okay, so this is um my outfit for the day We're actually doing I'm actually doing a takeover on Kenzie's channel. I'm gonna show you guys my day today Um, so first you stay in our PJs. Okay, everyone get in your PJs. Kenzie.  I was waiting. I thought Kenzie hadn't ate yet, but just I made it when you were sleeping That's why I left it out for you. Okay Bye. Yeah. Anyways, I'm off. I'm getting coffee with Val and then we are recording today The cinnamon spice latte that is supposed to be there like quote pumpkin spice Um, I got Dom her normal order Vogue on her stuff. I don't my god I missed this leaves at Alfred's guys. All right guys, we went to Alfred. What what did we get? What is it? We got the persimmon? Apparently it's a fruit Is that dumb to not know what that is? Is it like a pumpkin? I don't know it's not but like people kept saying go get the pumpkin spice latte Alfred They don't have one, but they have this persimmon ice latte and we like it because it's like chai based I think And didn't we both used to like get chai's all the time. Yeah together. Yep. Yep. Yep Oh back in the back in the Bethel conference days. Oh my god, really back in the day that was like four or five years ago Anyways, we're heading back to Dom's. We're going to film for the next few hours for at the living room And then I don't really know what's on today's agenda, but I'm trying to like get in the spirit, you know Guys Val and I just finished recording for the past hour and a half. We just recorded all Four Bible studies for the living room. Yes entity because haven't subscribed to the patreon You need to I actually think really good things are coming because I was able to find someone That's on a trial basis that I'm using right now. That is already it's been about 24 hours It has already changed my life. Oh, so The living room is watching me like three thousand times better, but I think the study that we just did was so good. Oh my gosh Yeah, yeah, wow. I'm very excited. It helped. It helped us as much as hopefully I'm like if I'll else, you know Just chatted even more. Yeah, do you want to go sweet green? Yeah. Yeah Sweet green We need to yeah I'm not a big sweet green gal, but I think I do need to eat if I don't eat like at the same time every day I like feel like I'm gonna pass out That's actually good to be on like that routine. Yeah, I've been so off that routine And then I like I get busy and then I'm working and then I like all of a sudden I like look up And it's 4 p.m. And I'm starting so I know and then I'm like I had this coffee and so I'm like, yeah My hair is so tangly and I just don't know I also just lighting keeps Changing and it's really Like wait now it's kind of good. Wow. Okay, so Maybe that's what we should have done Wow Beautiful day. Actually. I mean, it's just really hot, but beautiful. It looks beautiful on camera We are going to get sweet green. It's so excited. You have no idea how much I love this Hollywood bull salad I might have to try it. It is so good. I make it at home But it takes a long time to make it. Okay, but anyways, we're back We are on Harman sunset Yeah, we are Okay, perfect There it is We're only slightly heartbroken They don't have the Hollywood bull and the person here hated us so much So there's no way I was gonna ask her to do like a custom order. You can build around that So I could have done it She hated us. She was like literally probably the rudest server I think I've had ever I feel bad. Like is she having a bad day? And I'm like, listen, we can talk Because you're in a bad mood. Anyways, um, I got the buffalo chicken bowl Looks good. It's like 4 30. I just changed again. I've been changing like 20 times a day Mostly because it's just so hot, but I just changed into this outfit for dinner I have these cute like strappy heels on from Zara that I honestly never wear and I really should These jeans are girlfriend I'm gonna say by LPA They're revolve and then this top is revolve, but it's like one of those really trendy ones that comes like a tash It has this little sweater thing Guys, Dom is playing Casey Musters Good morning guys. I'm talking quietly because Dom is sleeping, but it is like 9 a.m. I think I have a recording at 9 30 virtually and then I have therapy at 11 So fun. I'm in the middle of doing my Joyce Meyer middle-aged woman devotion Really liking it. I just ordered chick flight for breakfast I didn't get anything for Dom because Dom doesn't eat this, but just hungry and I didn't want to make avocado toast Oh guys, I got your pop pros Here they are Um, they're so much better than my other airpods and I know people are like they're not that great But these are so much better my other airpods when I was editing videos We're just getting like quieter and quieter and that was going anyways guys I had to get a bunch of stuff so I would get free delivery Anyways guys, I am really liking my new devotion book by Joyce Meyer. I do feel 50 I will say however, it's very good and then Lauren was telling me about this other book that I need to read That I probably will download today. I think Honestly, actually no, I won't because I still have to read our book club book And I'm finishing the book that I'm reading currently But so today I'll just go through this schedule today's Thursday Like I said, I have a recording with Brittany Xavier in about 45 minutes So we're just gonna do that on zoom so I'll do that right here at 11. I have therapy after that Dom And I have a lot of great business plan ideas. So I'm sure we're gonna go work on that I'm gonna try to get her to take me to Chantra Matcha And yeah today. I actually don't have any plans the plans I had were canceled So I can really do whatever and we last night after dinner We're just like so inspired and so like on like literally I don't know how to describe it very excited had a lot of plans and a lot of things that we want to do So we need to like sort through all of that also.  So we stopped drinking it and Also, I was just tired of them because this coffee is actually pretty good.  I'm literally doing three days. This is like a 90 day thing and I want to finish it in three days So that is what I'm doing right now in three days. I'm gonna finish it in 30 days. So I'm doing three day Anyways, okay. Hello everyone. It is me. This is like one. I look a lot paler in person But also I need to tan. Um, I'm making a beautiful lunch of pizzerias currently I'm gonna get some work done I have to send in some stuff for brands and all of that and then I am going to cha cha matcha Um, I'm meeting a friend there which I'm really excited for and I need scissors And I think like an hour So that will be good Oh my gosh Okay guys, I forgot to bring my liquid IV. I cannot believe I forgot to pack it And it is really like I I honestly just need to go to look for foods or wherever they sell it in person just get some And no hydro flask like I really Really need to get my stuff together guys So beautiful who remembers Is this a blast from the past everyone? Here we go my night for latte Okay guys just when I said I was going to get better about vlogging I left the house and I left my camera battery here but I went to Jones I got the Chinese chicken salad the best salad ever and then I got um Cha cha matcha and that was just really an incredible experience I'm actually now a tv star. I woke up this morning. Kenzy Elizabeth vlogger Yes, and I'm going to bed tonight. Kenzy Elizabeth tv star It's crazy what los angeles can do Um to you also we're working on another separate genius project What will probably be everyone's favorite thing that we ever do So we've got a lot of work to do tonight guys. Um Like I'm really trying to be better. I am seeing morgan tomorrow actually so like that vlog will definitely be better You could take my car.  Yeah Look, what do you need your car at some point? I don't need it You're just not gonna leave. Yeah, I don't have anywhere to go But like you're not going to stay in your room with the blinds closed. No, no, no, of course, kenzy I'm gonna stay in the living room with the blinds closed Okay, um, well that works out well because I was gonna ask to I need to bring a bag because I'm gonna have to obviously Get ready at morgan's after that. Yeah Good morning, everyone. I'm back at my spot. Um, I'm going to do my debos after this meeting I woke up at like seven thirty and I have a call at eight Very very exciting call actually. Oh and then after that I'm going to do pilates outside and get and get a workout And I haven't really worked out much in the past like two weeks Which is not normally me and I'll be going right back to that as soon as they get home Then I am seeing morgan today and I'm really excited to see her in her new house I hope that we watch halloween town I'm in the best mood I have been in a not so great mood pretty much all week. Well, actually that's not true, but I feel like when I'm out of my routine and out of my house, it's really So much harder for me to vlog like really talking with my hands right now, but I just had the best meeting And the best like potential meeting I literally have thought of like four things that I want to do like just so many things. I feel So good. I'm like so excited. Anyways, I'm going to do oh my gosh I have liquid IV Wait, I need to get a water bottle. Okay My summer fridays lip balm has gone missing again. Why does it's the one thing that I just lose always? Anyways, I'm in the absolute best mood possible right now I'm just Thriving I'm really just driving at this point in my life guys. It's a good time I am driving over to do some pilates outside and just get a quick Workout in and then after that I will be seeing morgan which I'm so excited for This is Dom's car, but it was Alyssa's car first. So like I used to drive it too and I love this car Oh my gosh. I am So excited so I'm on sunset literally the literally the car behind me is the oppenheim group or whatever from selling sunset Because they're in this plaza Every morning when I was lived here and I would go to pilates. Where did I put this? Oh, I went to starbucks. I got some I got a Perfect bar and a water for my workout But but obviously I would go to hop pilates on sunset every single morning Go every day and they are on the back end like okay So if you are picturing watching selling sunset and you see the oppenheim group and it's like the outside and the green Whatever and that is Like where selling sunset is if you were to just go behind that that's where hop pilates is I just truly guys. There's a lot of good things happening. I think I think when it's just been a year of like I'm just um, oh, you know what? I made a mistake. I should have drank some of this. You just don't understand how happy I am right now I'm gonna listen to part of my podcast and wait until I'm gonna go work out Just finished pilates outside. I am literally so dead.  Am I right? Oh, I know. Do you have to get a magical racer? Well, those are harder. They're cute though. Isn't that cute with this or not? Yeah, yeah, it's a pop. Hello, everyone Bad news that I was here for this week, which is why I've been so bad at vlogging because I've been um on the verge of a mental Meltdown breakdown breakdown. No actually really good news like legit a miracle if this is the truth So that's great, but we are gonna go eat lunch at zinc One of my I think like what I miss dining wise the most I actually looked at the recipe to make a label Like the other week. I'm gonna start again.  No, maybe I do. I don't know.  Okay, but it's so good. It's one of my favorite things But I would go all the time after like the student because it was a great thing and you took me there for the first time I don't know why I thought I didn't like that place I had it in my head that I didn't Thank you for my favorite Um, I had it in my head I didn't like zinc and then you wanted to go there and I was like, okay, we'll go there and I loved it And now I go there all the time. It's so good. Um, yeah, they have I love their coffee, too I might give you really can also go to alfred if you want to go to alfred first whatever Um, maybe they're okay. Cool.  Mm-hmm That's how I'm feeling today. That's okay. I'm minus the great part Oh, my it's been about two weeks for me as well. You seem in a great mood I'm in the best mood ever literally because this is what I'm saying This was one great meetings. Great news. Also a little miracle Kenzie sent me a 16 second voice memo that had like four major updates and I was like Okay, like you're on the way here. You had to tell me all this in 16 seconds Yeah I need some time in between to recover from each thing. There's literally four really incredible things happening. Wow Well, that makes one of us. I was prepared for this week the worst week of my life and here we are Wonderful week. Wonderful week. Wonderful week. So we're gonna go to live. No, we're gonna go to the sink.  Listen. I know I've done a horrible job of vlogging this week But like it's just hard when I'm not Okay, well your travel you do a lot of travel. So for some reason the second Okay, like if you were like, no, I'm bad at it now. I can't vlog anymore I'm really good at vlogging it from my house But if I am vlogging and I'm like staying at Dom and not in my own space, it's impossible for me Oh, I just flashed the camera So anyways, I'm wearing a boys lie set. I'm really not like a cropped crew girl anymore. However I like this and it's actually really comfortable and it feels really light even though I know it's like so hot and I but you know, whatever We are about to head out. I showered feeling better Um, Morgan's your house is beautiful. Um There's literally, I mean, I'm sure you guys are so No, that's cute. Oh, no, it's cute. I like it. It feels very small. It's fabulous. It's cute. It's like very Yeah, see everything that fits me feels small because I'm so used to wearing oversized everything But I've been going a little more fitted lately. That's wild It's really wild have my lemonade With my favorite meal as it turns out we get this no, we literally do get the same thing Um, we also got fries and then whatever this is they told us it's a good sign I don't know, but this is like So good if you live in LA or I don't even know zinc is anywhere up currently guys. It's for now if you think gay No one said that it's zinc. Um, go get it. It's so good Okay guys, we're walking to alfred to get coffee We're having just obviously a chill afternoon, but we do need coffee else. We're gonna fall asleep. Chill, but very hot Yeah, it's it's very hot here guys. Um, I feel like it's hotter here than it is in texas Yeah, but also it's cooling down in texas already. So Thank you So beautiful Guys, there was the most beautiful baby ever that we just saw ever and morgan and I were like we need to tell her Every single person she was beautiful Yeah, because it was so beautiful and she's so beautiful and it was just like such a great experience to witness She seems so happy so carefree like imagining that stable and secure in your life I guess that doesn't really equate to security. But you know what I mean? She seems to care guys morgan had to get a water For her house or for her closet because as you can see it's really tall there Not for everyday use. I can reach everything. It's like an everyday item But I want to have stuff stored at the top and I literally cannot get to it unless I got something this big Or I guess I could have done all run No, I think it's perfect and it also looks really nice You know what it kind of reminds me of the like rolling ladders and libraries You know if I wasn't such a kindle person That would be very exciting I just been laying on morgan's mattress for the past few hours. It's extremely comfortable. It's a little mattress This is not sponsored, but um, which was you know what I mean? So Soon I will be heading back to dom's morgan will be off for the night I think I'm gonna go get in and out not I was explaining this to morgan Not because I'm like in l. I'm not even a big in and out person, but that sounds good And I have in and out in texas. So it's it's not you know That exciting I kind of like I would ideally umami burger is my favorite burger ever What? Tell me I just said it's just electricity So we've got to we've got to keep some tabs on that And it feels so crazy like driving around la by myself. I just it feels very homey still to I just love it to I went to in and out the one on sunset. So I should have seen this coming, but it was so Busy as it always is like the line is always wrapped around. So I'm actually going to just order um umami my favorite burger in la I get The truffle burger. I don't know why it's only the double Okay, sure I'm not like hungry enough But it'll be okay. Good morning, everyone. I am so Unbelievably sore getting out of my bed this morning was um It was really something I'm not no one saw that but I'm actually I forgot what it felt like to be a whole lot of sore like after your first few classes And normally I would just like go work out. So then I wouldn't be sore because it's like that bad Um, but I'm not doing that today. So anyways, today's my last day. I leave tonight We're going to blue bottle jonah venise probably blue bottle again. Yeah It's very exciting. The marathon continues everyone. It continues. Oh my god It this is you This is being in the store right now. No, I would never hear the end of it and it would be the whole day and you would be Yeah, no, I'm just letting you know can't I know exactly how you feel This is me the first time I did orange theory And I have no but it's not okay. The thing about hot like being sore from pilates It's different than being sore from like a hip workout or anything like interval training because it's in different places of your body You didn't even know you had yeah, you know What I mean is like It literally you feel it everywhere Yeah, and but it's so painful that like Walking walking is painful. Yeah, not just like moving a muscle.  Wait, should I wear these instead? No I like those They're both cute, but I want the platform these I don't need you going from your right to back. Oh, okay. I don't know what someone types. You need to get anxiety from it Yes, always. Okay. Well, let's pray that my loafers are in my car. I miss those shoes Like where did they go who took them? This is my outfit vlog take-up vlog The outfit is really cute and I'm wearing this today. No, but your outfit too our outfits are cute in a different way I'm just um, I'm wearing fitness clothes. So if I sweat, yeah, it doesn't matter I'm wearing this this shirt. I wear when I need to like just be like chunky monkey It's really cute. I like that a lot So if I ever find anything like this, I don't care if it's $30,000 No, having the bet the right like that is the perfect fit over says t-shirt. I have one my baraco bottle one Oh, yeah, I don't know why I said baraco moment. That's my baraco one I was like thinking about how it says in the shirt and then um Yeah, that's my best one. Actually, there's this one that I have in my suitcase that someone just sent me It's like shop underage.  It's honestly like Comfort like comfort colors teas that are like really oversized and overdone But then you need one with like a really big shoulder and that's what it is. Yes It's the shoulder and then it's down here It's all like at the butt. Yep. Yep. So we are heading out Thank you Oh Guys just got the most beautiful coffee of my life new orleans with oatmeal. So beautiful. We're at the one on third I think we're gonna go sit at the one on fairfax again though because there's no seats here Waiting for the breakfast sandwich Best one ever got my blue bottle my new orleans with oatmeal My favorite coffee ever like literally ever and then my favorite breakfast sandwich It's a good morning.  It's just something else Got the john and venise So beautiful. We have our john and venise. We're sitting at joan the juice. I got an obvious shake I've never had it is good And it sounds like it'd be so disgusting like sad maybe get it one day She's like, I promise you like it and it's so good, but it's like all dairy Like it's not something that you would be What like is it like it's just avocado and like Yeah, I think so.  I know So beautiful. I'm so excited. Wow Seriously just incredible. I have a Paper spoon that's a new one Wow, honestly, I make this at home just as good so I don't even feel deprived But like obviously the experience of john and venise is really something not that we're getting the experience, but Guys, this is why okay. I just don't like how my hair is so many different colors Okay, I'm not using the orange champagne. So that's why I want any filter Guys dom is trying to find her husband on tiktok Guys, I don't even know how to look at my first off There's too much negativity happening with just my hair and the vibrations right now, so I might have to sit this one out enough of you All right guys, I'm we're gonna film a haul because we went to arizia and h&m We actually got some good things Um, okay the first thing I got at arizia these socks. They're really good socks They're perfect if you guys ever see me. I actually never wear the one from out from alfred from arizia I always get amazon ones, but these are much better So I got these they're cute with like sneakers and dresses and stuff Do you want to go next? Oh, yeah Sorry I don't know how to do a haul Okay, it's the disrespect for me. She's new here. She's new here. Okay guys So this is the mask that I got I've already worn it. It was ten dollars And I actually always wear bandanas But look how cute it is.  I think all masks are ugly except this one. Sorry everyone. They are Duh, like but this one's so cute. Look And it's adjustable in the ears.  Especially like straight up like hey When you wear them, um for like hours at a time like sometimes you'll get like the headache, you know Like with your head Yeah, okay, then I got I'll show you the rest of my arizia stuff because we'll move on to H&M soon I got this long sleeve white top. I will link it. It's sunday best, but I'll link like dupes down below as well Um, then I got the same long sleeve top in black just like a really good basic and then I I too got one of those masks and then One of them's can I say then this is so this is my favorite thing too But this little like lightweight crops turtleneck situation It's like so cute. It's not like a waffle net, but it's similar and it's like over it's like it's like like thermal Yeah, it's cute. I like it a lot. You know what? It's gonna be really hard. I just noticed. Let's see. There it is Good A little show All right, um Would you like to go first? Yes Okay, so guys straight out this creepy lady was trying to talk to me This is a story time too. I walked up. I knew something off was coming What's happening?  And I'm like, oh, I'm a graphic designer like I don't know what to tell you and then she was like, oh Oh, like how do you like that? I'm like, yeah, it's great. I love my job And she was like, well, I do And I was like, uh, and she was like, do you want to make side money? I work in finance. I'm like is that codeword for uh traffic Which she was confused that we didn't know the place that she worked for and then I was like, yeah I was like, I honestly didn't even think about trafficking until you said that I just thought it was like some like MLM scheme No, I feel like I always like traffic people. I don't know anyways. So, um, we're safe and I got this dress It's so cute. It's like Zebra print actually, it's so cute. It's like this but it's really long Sorry, um, but I learned and it was on sale Love I got a dress as well I got two dresses because I wanted to wear them with my new boots that I just got that are really cute So this is just like a fun little lightweight black dress situation Yeah Cute and then the other thing I got was this I'm just really into fun prints and patterns Um, so I got this and all of these I'm gonna layer with like a cool like graphic t-shirt or something and then this one It's like this cute little Spaghetti dress situation. It's cute. We'll just like make it fun and flirty fun and flirty Okay, middle name fun and flirty. Oh my god. Yeah, all right. This is Ren's own dude, bro Anyway, you guys are saying how mean Kenzie is to me and I'm so happy Yeah, don't know. It's not even me. It's just that like sometimes you have to it's it's tough love diamonds for your It's your best interest so hard. Yeah, it's disrespectful So I got this dress as well. That's really long.  She's not okay I only got yeah, I didn't like making this up. Oh, I got these earrings with the last second too Oh, wait, I got two more things. I just guys. Okay, so I got this. Oh, that's cute. Yeah, right? See that Isn't it cute? It was at the very beginning Isn't that cute? I got it in a size large and then I got this black dress Just because I felt like I needed a long black dress because I noticed the other day didn't have one It was on sale for $19. Yeah, and it's just like um Yeah situation copying me. Yeah, I was just here to pop it off because if you guys saw my instagram post You saw my instagram post you would realize then you would realize that I actually had a black dress that I You know, I actually realized once I left you I have this exact dress just not long Cute That's good, but I needed a longer one. You know you mean? Yeah How am I supposed to pack all my stuff? Where do you don't know? Where do you go?   Yeah Just might be like a little bit overweight She might be a little chunky. Yeah It's okay. It's okay. I'm so unfortunate. Oh, I need to put my new mascot. Well, I guess I can do that later Yeah, that's true. We're kind of we've honestly just been sitting in the car Yeah, there's nothing to show Like how to like she you know, she's been showing me this tiktok love story. Yeah, it's really I want that to be done So bad come on like it's not like there's not much to do in 2020 I'm not gonna be dramatic, but like right now There's no excuse. I just kind of come up with something but I'm like There's really no excuse as to why things are the way they are in my love life Well, I mean there is reasons but All of them being my fault so Um, no Yeah, you know everyone knows about the sonic and It will happen in in due time in due time in due time Because I can't like I can't right now I want to be single for the rest of my life. Just kidding. No, I don't same Just kidding Like give me like a mop I wish I could just um Like I wish you had there's actually a movie and Uh, everyone on their wrist. It's like a countdown call. Oh, yes to the day you like meet your match Everyone got me nice. I would so be down for an arranged marriage. I think dating is the worst thing I really hate dating. I I hate dating like more than anyone hates dating Why is that? I don't know.  I've wasted enough time. It's annoying. You know what you mean? Yeah So if anyone knows how to get married without dating. Yeah, let me know or if you just have like a cute Brother cousin for Dom. Yeah, let me know. Yeah, seriously Because I mean tell them to slide into her DMs. Yeah, I'm like uh unofficially On the market Okay Like I'm kind of window shopping right now. Yeah, but nothing too serious. Give me two months. Give me jan Told when January January one. Yeah, and I'll be like running my card. You know, right now I'm window shopping. January. I'll be running my card I'll be making purchases. So I'm just kind of scoping out the scene seeing what things look like And if anything kind of sticks around long enough from when I was window shopping, then I'll like, you know, I might purchase You know, okay, because sometimes this you have to do Yeah, that's fair. So if you keep thinking about it That's my real for shopping if it's like a big purchase and I just saw it and I never thought about it before If I keep thinking about it throughout like when I'm styling clothes and stuff Yeah, then I'll buy it. But if I don't think about it again, then what's the point? Kenzie? Yeah, okay. So I should Yeah, I think I've been yeah, you need to play the tick tock you everyone. Okay. There's this tick tock. I wait Blow that out. Okay There's this tick tock of these two girls That are just being very cringy and giving this analogy About like fruit snacks and stuff and like gushers and gushers and it's really cringy and I feel like that was It's really cringy. But the point that they're making is actually good, but it's just like But how they're saying it is very cringy. Yeah, and like me using this shopping explanation Could like if they tried to do the same thing it'd be just oh, it would be so bad But because it's me like it sounds great. So true. She's so humble in that way. Yeah Come on Obviously, okay. Well, I'm gonna end off the week in my life vlog here. I hope you guys enjoyed Subscribe Should we tell them on our news?  Oh, yeah for you about to I'm like guys. No Okay guys, I'm also gonna be in texas for A month with kenzie So I'm like, I mean you guys I'm just gonna be in every vlog. I honestly might even do a vlog takeover Yes, you um and honestly, I might even just start taking over kenzie's channel So we'll really see what happens, but um in all seriousness. I'm so freaking excited I feel like we've already said that somewhere. Didn't we say maybe we said on a podcast or a live or something Because we definitely know because of my dms lately. We said in the live Well, anyways, you guys have heard it here because I've definitely not said it on youtube. I don't think but whatever So fun. We're so excited Um, I can't wait to go school square line dancing and we're in the middle of pandemic And get a pair of no, of course, we're not gonna go to a place kenzie. I'm gonna teach her and we're gonna go like in the den Yes, exactly. Oh your rooftop. Maybe And they're really were boots up there to do. It's just soft. I've never been I didn't even know the requirements But yes, they will have like markover and help teach us.  It's I'm working on it. So I have two pairs What size she were you? I'm a nine. I'm an eight So maybe just cut off a few toes Or maybe this is one of the the boots will just fit you. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, hope you guys enjoyed Follow the little both of us on instagram loving you guys so much and I will see you guys in my next vlogs I'm doing vlog week this week. So get excited subscribe All right. Bye Wait, what's vlog week where I vlog every day after the week


Right, so we're here just after the ARM press conference and you launched the ARM Cortex A73. That is correct. And also a new GPU. Absolutely, so what we've announced today as we've done last year is our premium IP suite for high-end smartphones. The first component of that is the Cortex A73, which is our most efficient big core and the highest performing big core for mobile and consumer applications. And then of course the Mali G71 GPU, which brings in a new advanced scalar architecture called Bifrost and is our first fully coherent GPU. And both of these products are designed for the next generation of applications with their fully immersive augmented reality virtual reality applications or AAA gaming type of applications which are much more interactive between CPU and GPU. And these two coherent components can interact a lot more together and the focus for both of them has been to be delivering that performance with a great deal of energy efficiency because you need to be able to deliver that in the sustained thermal budgets and the power budgets that you expect for in the phones today. So the heterogeneous processing is like bringing that even much higher than just being a faster processor and a faster GPU. So now we're getting even more combined performance? Yes, so if you look at it, the CPU is much more of an agency-centric set of workloads. The graphics are much more bandwidth-centric workloads. But as you have more interaction and more control on one side, more data on the other, you need them to interact much more closely. And instead of actually taking these transactions going off-chip to memory with large workloads, you can actually do it much more efficiently by sharing more between the two of them. So since 2009, there were some graphs and some demos over there. The smartphones are basically the same thickness nearly, but there's a lot more happening in there. And this is a challenge? I would go the other way and say the thickness actually is reducing. So if you look at a 2010 phone, one of the key ones would be 12mm thick. Going down to today, the Huawei Mate 8 being about 8mm thick. So it's almost a 33% production. But in terms of performance, the performance has gone up 16x to 20x on the CPU side, nearly 50x on the GPU side just in the last five to six years. If you go back to 2008, 2009, the CPU has gone up about 300 times. The CPU has gone up about 100 times. But all while making the form factor thinner and the performance delivered in that context. So we can look forward to A73 and the G71 next year in products or before? So we would expect that to be in silicon end of this year or early next, certainly in products by 2017. We expect the premium devices to be using 10nm process technology. But that doesn't matter because the G71 and A73 are both process independent. You could see them in configurations that are in 16nm or even earlier. And so the batteries are getting bigger and the heat is not going up all these years? Or is it going down also or no? So effectively the batteries I'm thinking are getting thinner. Yes, there's a bit more capacity but the form factors don't allow for the actual capacity of the battery to go that much. And as you get thinner there's less chance for heat dissipation. So you have even less ability to generate heat. So the processor, the GPU all have to be that much more efficient to be able to fit in that constrained environment. And so there's a lot of graphics on the wall there. Are you entering new markets? Is it going to be laptops and desktops? Is this more possible now? So we've always said that we have the technology and the performance levels to be able to attack larger screen formats. You can see our GPUs as you might have seen are actually in 75% of DTVs. So large screens are not an issue. Tablets again which are large screen devices have a lot of our technology. So it's really up to the innovation capabilities of our partners and their customers on how they see it in new markets. And how does it compare to a discreet or integrated GPUs in the X86 laptops? So that is actually a very important question. What we showed today was the Mali G71 in a 16-shader configuration delivering similar performance to a discreet GPU in a 2015 mid-range laptop and actually beating some of the integrated GPUs using the Manhattan and within the GFX bench. And that's actually a very good representation of heavy workloads in the mobile environment but also pretty taxing. And with that Mali G71 kept its own. More importantly the Mali G71 is designed for smartphones in that configuration and so you're talking about a full workload of less than three watts for the entire SOC. So that's at least a fifth if not more lower power than what you'd see in a laptop type configuration. So when the phones are getting thinner, the battery is bigger, the PCBs are smaller, right? Does that mean you're doing more in the SOC now? Even more and more stuff? There's a constant integration. You've seen that happen. You have graphics integrated now, vision you're seeing, image and signal processing certainly. And in fact modems are getting combined as well. So yes, that continues to be a consistent integration of more technology onto the SOC. Nice. So A73, a big jump, 10 nanometer. It's going to be amazing though, what people are going to be able to do. We're looking forward to it. I think we're looking forward to a lot of the use cases we'd see with the A73 and the G71 in 10 nanometer next year. Thanks.


All right, good morning, everyone. I think we're getting ready to start now I am Niels I'll him to talk about stretch and moving forward Today, I'll talk about the just release Which we already did. I'll be talking about some important dates for the stretch release and Then some of the changes we hope to implement before the stretch release That would be some process changes some new ideas and other crazy things and Then it goes without mention. There's a GCC transition, which I will briefly end up talking a bit about so The Jesse release So the good things are a couple things that work really well for us. All to remove was again being one of them Among other things we also very happy that many of you provided sensible patches that were ready to go into Jesse as this will be very few remarks and Did you were very careful with what you proposed? exit and Certainly the freeze was Mostly better and shorter than what we had for we see which is definitely a great plus There are also a couple of items we can improve on the other hand Pre-approvals we get way too many of those and they are extra work for us We still get a lot of uploads with unrelated changes, which costs us to spend extra time reviewing them Extra time talking to people saying we can't have that change you please perverted and We're still not happy with the freeze length, which I guess goes for most of you as well The pre-approvals is somewhat a double-edged sword for us on one hand We're happy that you're careful being extra careful On the other hand, it's an extra round trip for us So when you upload a pre-approval or when you do a pre-approval you say can I upload this? We say yes, we've viewed once then you upload we end up reviewing it again Then improve it so when you go Lots of those you end up doing a lot of extra work for a lot of true will changes so For people that are sensible This is actually harmful us for us to get too many pre-approvals on the other hand if you're not sensible We want the pre-approvals rather than blind uploads We're still looking for ways of improving this workflow so we can avoid either the extra round trip or somehow make people more confident in simple changes simple changes and Without getting too many non-sensible changes We will one of the things we aren't working on is rewriting the freeze policy for stretch So become more clear what is okay, and what is not that's what we hope at least But we will not ever end up with an exhaustive list of this is definitely okay We might have that list of this is definitely not okay, but it will never be exhaustive we're moving on to unrelated changes now and This is some of the things we hear per faced So like it's a leaf package. It cannot possibly break other things It can it has happened and it will happen again or it ends up breaking itself in which case It's not really helpful for us either We also see people uploading a new upstream lease or something with a lot of x changes And we say this is not really working for us And I say but if I have to pair it cherry-pig it or revert it will be a lot of extra work for me You should totally just ignore this thing It just doesn't work for us either. It's pushing work on to us Which we'll come back to in a moment is somewhat of a problem and There's also the part where the changes are I've relevant harmless and shouldn't make a difference There's that truth is sometimes they do And when they do we discover them later than we want to So that's why we insist on reviewing everything And it's extra work. Yes And When we ask people to revert things undo things or cherry-pick things to a reupload with less They you should not wear incline to do it. I understand it's extra work for you as well, but We need that we need to be able to make reverse cheaper to make it be less work So it works for you and for us Also again, please don't upload new upstream releases without a pre-approval Which goes back to the part of try not to do many so many things that need pre-approval because they are a lot of work for us and Yes, we don't like to say no It is often easier for us to say yes to something that needs to say no Because saying no means you have to argue two or three males before people get no is no or First in purple unicorn, I think it's called now So if you want to help and we would like you to help please cherry-pick changes and for some unavoidable craft like When we have these auto regenerative files We have translations please use filter diff send us a filter diff one and tell us what you feel the diff and how We will still see the unfiltered content when we check the package But at least the first screening which this one you want will go faster So on this thing with moving pushing more work on to us The problem is you're saving time by putting more work on us means that if you're not people do that the entire project will end up overloading us So all the other changes will get stuck behind yours and It's just it's harmful for the release process really You want things faster make this work for us Say freeze too long We are looking into doing RC releases somehow Doing pre releases after the freeze before we are ready to do a full release Which means we can do more testing hopefully as well And also might give us better benchmarks of how well the release is actually going Besides looking just at RC box, which is of course a useful metric, but not the only one We will also do some changes to the freeze and as mentioned before the freeze policy I'll get back to the freeze in a moment with the dates There's one thing else we can do I Like you to consider the following little question What happens if two percent of all packages and are not quite ready when the freeze happens? Any takers? No, you read it Yeah, so he said something about deferring it to the first point release if I understood correctly Anyway, my answer is the project will file at least 500 unblocked requests That is 2% of the entire archive right now looking at source packages And that is a minimum number Sometimes we need multiple uploads to get things right d-package system D among others Apped as well had numerous uploads during just a phrase It is actually a very best case. We only see 500 unblocked requests in this case And then the question is will this burn out the release team? Yes It will Will this make the freeze longer? Yes, it will So again have things ready When We freeze and that's the part where I need you to help us The release team cannot have everything ready because there's simply too many packages for Five to ten people to actually get ready at the same time We need you to help us here And that even means fixing packages you don't maintain this is a very helpful thing because We can't really help you when you get two months in the freeze and say why did you remove this package which I Really need but was I'll see buggy for three months And I didn't bother fixing We can't help you then fix it before Then we can help you Now onto something a little more exciting the future We will be talking a bit about the important dates for stretch Now you should do cool stuff for stretch This is the current timeline It's for me now. There'll be a transition. I'll talk about later Which you should keep in mind, but after that go ahead and do cool stuff Then in a year from now That'll be in the summer 2016 You should remember this is this thing called the freeze coming up and you should have your things ready for that That's when you start We move on to the transition fee freeze during the 5th of september, which is About half to a month after dept. 16. Don't remember the exact dates, but Couple weeks after that After the transition freeze We will have two months Where we will not accept any new transitions, but we will have the soft freeze at the 5th of November, which you might remember And of course there is the 5th of december where we will start the actual full phrase I'll come into the difference between these three freezes in a moment And as you will know you have a year to go bananas to some extent and develop new stuff The transition freeze means we will not be doing transitions anymore We hope to be finished with all the transitions by then, but more likely we will This will be the cutoff point for accepting new transitions We would also like to Request people to stop doing fails to build from source testing against testing at this point So we can read out a lot of the fails to build from source problems then The soft freeze Which was the 5th of November. This is the cutoff point for new packages After this package after this date, we will not accept new packages into testing This is regardless of whether or not they have previously been in testing or not So if they're removed they're now staying out And requires manual intervention to get them back in So this is the point where auto removals no longer migrate back automatically when you fix it After being auto removed And finally the freeze is as you mostly know it All changes to testing require manual review And then there will be some changes to the freeze policy We haven't quite finished wording them out, so I will not include them There will be an announcement later closer to the phrase with how below And that's pretty much it from the changes to the phrase Any questions to this part? Nope, doesn't look like it. All right, moving on Some of the changes we will do So one of the things we have noticed during Regular development cycles is that we suffer from a kind of a problem You will have some packages in testing that has a new version in unstable. It's in itself. It's not a problem The problem is sometimes the version unstable has been a different version for a very long time Like a new upstream release The issue here is the package getting out of sync Developers are working against the unstable version. So that's what they're all working for But if this does not progress into testing, this will not actually be the package we're releasing So we're doing a lot of work on a package that may or may not actually end up in the release There's a backlog here that gets stuck Important changes might get blocked by it because they end up building against the new version And therefore need to wait for the version to be ready, but the new version is not getting ready for some reason So this will block migrations. This will have people work on On the new version. We might discover a security issue in the testing version Which we have no claim way of updating without doing a out-of-band testing proposed updates sort of thing And that's that's a modern issue for us It also happens that we are starting in transition and then notice oops We got a pile of the transition stock behind this Issue in unstable that nobody noticed for two months So The race team looked at this and said well Our point of view the primary focus for testing is to create stable And the primary purpose for unstable is to create testing With that in mind We're considering to remove packages from testing that have been out of sync But unstable for a long time Namely three months This will happen even If they have no issues in unstable in testing, sorry, they obviously have issues in unstable if they're stuck in unstable um The solution for the package container is to fix the problem in unstable and failing that reverting to the version in testing um If there are no other options There are of course some exceptions We will not be removing deep package from testing that would be counterproductive will not remove other key packages And we will be disabling this during phrasers or other long Periods where you are not in control of migrations to testing such as the gcc transition now So that's the general idea Of course once your package removed it can still go back automatically as soon as Whatever blocked it fixed is fixed So in generally if it's stuck for three months, it's probably needs something manually done from your point um Don't keep in mind There will be the freeze the 5th and November if you're removed and didn't fix it before then Your package will be out um So have it fixed before then and you should be good We also have a couple other ideas um We are very close to having auto package tests be bloggers for migrations. Thanks to atonia and martin um This will be a first step. So at this point they will just block if you have an auto package test that failed it will block the migration We have two years ago a proposal of changing the h delay for packages with auto package tests that will not come yet Um, we will look into that later We're also looking at doing the actual release media for the release ahead of time So at the last release, um We had this thing where we we did the release in two hours. That was all the technical work And then we started building media and that took 12 hours And by the time we were done with that the press team was asleep I was ready to fall asleep And we still had to fix up the press announcement area or anything else So that was not really helpful um By the way, it was not the press team's fault being asleep then We sort of planned to be done earlier and we weren't which was unfortunate So the only here is to do the All the release media ahead of time say a week before have it ready be able to do a final testing of it In due time have a couple days for it and then on the actual d-stay ship it out We already have a freeze of Seven days up till the release where we don't accept any new changes. Anyway, unless things are super horribly broken But we tend to have noticed that by now Then as mentioned earlier, we also want to do release candidates or betas during the phrase To have sort of a steady progress and see where we're going And have better release media We're also looking into improving britney. So some migrations Happen earlier. This is mostly helpful for transitions where you have What is called out-of-date binaries? um That we don't actually wait for them to be removed from unstable, but just ignore them and migrate anyway um so And there's a couple of other things on the drawing board. We didn't quite have ready to announce yet So but these are the things we'll be looking at work Finally i'm moving on to the gcc transition As you probably noticed there is such a thing as a gcc transition, which is quite huge um it will take a while and If you have a library affected by it, please do your part If you don't have a library or you have a library, but don't know what to do We have people in immune things. So please be patient and helpful in that regard um and please do not cause interference that might make it longer There are a lot of packages that are not affected by it namely di for example It's mostly unaffected by it at least in migration sense So there are a lot of packages that can be uploaded. Um, but if you're not Please choose experimental We would also like to thank matias close close for his artwork and coordination assistance It would have been a lot more painful without him. So I'd like to give you a hand for matias And this is actually where we come to an end So now you should go forth and fix bugs in jessie. We do accept important and lc bug fixes still for that And there's actually coming a point. We soon be doing a point release. Hopefully we are looking at the next date for that Um, there's a procedure in the dev reference 551. Please read that for how to do it if you're done We're also very happy if people will make more qa tools Especially things where you consider doing automatic enforcements like we have lynch and auto rejects. We will be having auto package tests soon So that would be very helpful Um, if you in your next qa tool your next super qa tool Consider this part where we should integrate it into the archive somehow Also go forth and reproduce. I mean make reproducible built Of the other it's it seems to get either of that and Please make stretch a legendary awesome release Thank you At this point we have 25 minutes for questions. There's a mic there if people Want to come in question. There's also a runner with a mic Must be running system D So it's the plan to to block all packages with failing tests like a conscious one to kind of push people to fix their tests Or is that just because we haven't don't have the ability yet to decide between always failed and an actual regression in the test Because the letter are what we actually want to To detect and block packages on but not necessarily if a test has never succeeded. It's just plain broken So at this point we will be For those who don't know we will basically be fed a lot of packages with some issues in them and Brittany does not know why that issue occurs. She's just told there's an issue. Don't migrate it So at this point that's actually this how ci div end of net is implemented that decides this Eventually we would like to have would you talk about where we can difference between Is my package broken because somebody else broke it or because I uploaded something that's broken But the current setup that we are the prototype setup we're doing now will not be able to distinguish that Right, but that means in ci div net we could create a hints file to block this stuff only if the test ever worked So it was actually a regression Okay, by all means if you can thank you Regarding those new rules for removing packages in testing Yes, if we have those rules the last stable release Let's do in the last stable How many packages would have been affected? I don't have numbers on that. Sorry okay Of course the uh, please stand up The extremely annoying thing is that if you add auto package Tests to your package. You actually have more chance that your package is not migrating. So Is there an incentive in a way? I mean I add it to all my packages if I can but Currently there is no extensive incentive beyond you Your own fuzzy feeling in the stomach of having Sort of avoided breakage in testing As but as mentioned earlier, we want to go to a state where britney is more involved in this and can actually Reduce the aging delay There's an old proposal. That's two two and a half years old. I think Where we said we wanted to integrate auto package test with britney um And the benefit for doing it if for people having auto package test They would have a two-way two-day migration delay rather than five But I said we're not quite there where we can do that Yeah For for reproducible bills, we're still kind of experimenting a few things. Um One of the things we have not quite started at ryan now is that we're relying on to the idea was to uh rely on snapshot.dev.org to retrieve the uh Build environment and then enable the make the build reproducible Some people were raised that it would be better if the build environment would be the release What we've released in the end and so we were like pondering. Oh should we rebuild Like almost all packages after the freeze So we get package built against The packages are likely to be released with stretch There are a few things we need to think about maybe later. Maybe not stretch. Maybe next one extreme version, but this is think that We might want to consider Okay, let me know now And as a reply to what's the intent the incentive for you as a package maintainer Okay And if you once we do the actual reverse dependency Testing then the incentive for you is that if one of your dependencies breaks your package and hence your test then the dependency won't migrate So essentially you stop other people in their tracks when they try to break your package That's the main thing which also helps us with doing transitions and so But that's the carrot so um You start talking about um reproducing packages against stable by testing But as far as I know pretty doesn't ensure that build dependencies are even available In testing so we can't often can't even build things in testing against testing and hence unstable against stable Any plans to change that? Yes, there is uh, I have had an interest in doing it. I haven't done it for a while or haven't done it certainly um This is part of the things where the freeze here in The self-freeze goes in and helps because the moment the self-freeze happens things new package is not migrated so you can remove things Um, that do not have built dependencies for example, and then they stay out Um, so at this point is also a very good point for a lot of fail to build from source testing in Testing to ensure that build dependencies are present We can certainly also at this point migrate new packages to fix that That might be the same thing to do in a particular case But um, this is the point where we can do and ensure we're going and ensuring testing will be self-contained If I do not make The fix in britney yet somewhat related to the previous question, uh to lunas um Is it maybe time that we start thinking about uh, doing Automatic ftbfs uh tests before migrating to a testing So that that we uh, really only want stuff to go into testing if it's fully buildable At that time That's a good suggestion. Let me just know that um There's a question up here So there's a big push and again as talk I think later today about ppas Um, the release team got any thoughts about how ppas could be useful for Helping with release work Yes, um, we do have It's one of the ideas I didn't announce. We did have an idea for using um A ppa or an extra suite for Doing transition works in that suite. Um, which Could insist us in many ways to want having breakage in unstable where we can work isolated in The suite instead and then move it to unstable when we're done with the worst part of it um But the ideas and the drawing boards and then there isn't We have some requirements for the want to build set up here with building against different suites and So so it's not quite fleshed out yet, but if we had pbas that would definitely help there um Have you formalized the policy to Define what packages can Would be allowed to have new upstream versions Because I know at least post-greSQL has ships newer stable releases during the stable release. So Most likely it makes sense to push them as well during the freeze And I know that I would like it to be the same for Django, which isn't saying upstream policy But with that sort of started this discussion, but I don't know if you made any progress on your side and And possibly auto package test would be one criteria. It could be also Helpful here in the current site for the discussion before Yes So yes, we we do have Not quite a full list yet. Um, but we did have a talk with the security team and the srms about what packages We are currently accepting new upstream releases of doing the freeze or after the freeze Um, usually it's browsers or the linux kernel Um, so but I don't have the list here right now right now, but we are working on one Um, you have a question from the internet from irc. So I'm relying from sebastic which says, um Recently the release team member went sort of of sort of on vacation And they have not returned to coordinate the gcc five related transition again So things are moving a bit slower on the on this gcc five front because your coordination is a bit missing Uh, when will you come back to it and because your input is greatly appreciated I'm sorry. I didn't quite consider question Um, the question is basically, uh, when will you come back more actively on all the related transition? connected to gcc five because Um, it looks like you went a bit on on vacation and things are moving more slowly Because I went on vacation Um, no, I'm But yeah, I have had julian and jones and have been doing a lot of work here on the release team side And matias has been working a lot on it um So I have actually not yet been able to catch up with it But I will after the dev confere ins Or have a look at where we are But I think I think we our estimation is that we're halfway through or so So we're hoping to be done within two to three months But we'll see how it actually goes. There's a lot of things that still need to be in a mute and every in a mute takes A couple of days due to the delay and all so if you want to help make it faster Please do you upload yourself for approval of sewarding in a mute for it? We also help Hello, hello, I have a question about um auto package tests currently. I believe that c i dev in that runs against um Uh, the entirety of unstable when it run when it's running the tests and I wonder if it might also be interesting to Also try and run this at the time when you've decided you want to migrate a package against the stuff that's trying to go into testing So testing plus the things you're trying to migrate so that you can see if when you've migrated it It's still going to continue working at this point I wonder if that might also be interesting or maybe be interesting instead It is interesting But the problem is you migrate between zero and thousands of packages with each run Usually maybe only 20 or so But still if you you've decided I'm on a migrate 20 packages and then run you didn't have to wait for 20 Auto package tests to complete before you accept it um Which is which we might be able to do in the 12 hour room that britney has But during sort of the pearl transitions or stuff like that You are end up with a thousand packages that you need to test and all that might be really entangled I don't know if martin has slightly more technical answer as well Well, it's not more technical It's just looking at it from the angle of executing the tests And I suppose you you meant that we don't run the tests against the entirety of unstable Not the britney test but the actual auto package tests and that's I think it's possible in theory We could craft like an apt pinning file where we Like we exclude everything from unstable accept the 500 packages that we are trying to migrate It hasn't been done yet But if there's interest in doings if someone is interested in doing that That would be a great contribution because we run into that scenario several times I'm thinking that each block of transition So every time you decide you want to accept a package then this is a mini transaction And then each of these transactions is then fired off in turn So one block of auto hints from the easy auto hinter one like if a package can go in on its own Then you take testing you add just these packages So you dominate the old packages out of testing add these new ones in and then this is kind of like a mini release It's the state that you're trying to turn testing into now And then at this point you can run You can say is this a valid state for testing next time britney comes back and runs You say have you got the answer to this transition now? Yes or no wait or carry on Okay Yeah, I get the point the issue is here also if you start doing that you should also do the fails to build from testing Go at the same time Which would be an interesting feature to do I think it's just a bit hard to start with that So it might be for the future But I will note it Any other questions while I write could the kids wait after the stretch release? I'm not really in control of when people have kids You Okay, if there are not any more questions, I think we would just end up a bit early and then expected Yep, there's one there So there was a qa both earlier this week and one of the idea of flying around flying around was that We could do automatic removal of orphan packages probably non key orphan packages from testing Just to make it easier for people to detect that they are found and To other than what do you think about that? I don't have any strong opinion, but What was the kind of package? Non-key orphan packages Oh non-key and orphan packages which Could be interesting It just Needs a bit of thought with if you remove orphan key packages I suppose that was part of it Okay, let's take it afterwards. I'm not sure I understood what you wanted not so much a question as a comment I just want to say probably on behalf of lots of people Thank you very much the release team. We know how massive amount of work you guys put in It's really appreciated I welcome and you also welcome to join. I think we'll end it here. Thanks for coming


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