It's Wednesday. It's 11 o'clock. It's June the 16th, 2021. That can mean only one thing. What now, America? I'm Tim Apachele, your host, and today's title is UFO. The truth embargo is over. Believe it or not, in the next couple weeks, the Secretary of Defense and the Director of National Security is going to issue a report that is due out and it will be unclassified. It won't be a classified report and that report is going to be submitted to the committees of armed services, the armed services committees in Congress. They're going to get that report and basically what it's going to say is these observations that have been documented by Navy fighter pilots and these identified objects we used to call them UFOs, but now they're called unidentified aerial phenomena. UAP is a new acronym and before we go any further on UAPs or UFOs, we can observe the technology. We can take a look for ourselves on the video footage. 60 Minutes had a nice program on this about three weeks ago and you can look at the footage You don't have to correlate any kind of UFO or unidentified aerial phenomena with little green men from the planet Colac. It's not a binary choice. The good news is we can observe this, discuss it. It'll be on the news front here in a couple of weeks most likely and we're going to have to probably discuss it because it's a security issue for the United States and let me just go to what President Obama said recently and he said the following what is true and I'm actually being serious here is that there are there's footage and records of objects in the sky. We don't know exactly what they are. We can't explain how they move their trajectory. They did not have an easily explainable pattern and so you know I think people still are taking seriously and investigating and trying to figure what that is. So that's President Obama and then we have Harry Reid which we'll talk about in a minute as soon as I introduce our guests. So with me today is Jay Fiedel, Stephanie Dalton and Winston Welch. Good afternoon or good morning everyone and welcome to What Now America. So Jay before I ask you a question let me let me point out something Harry Reid our former Speaker of the House. He was Speaker of the House at the time. In 2007 he dedicated 22 million to a secret program called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program and basically it was identified these things in the sky that no one can seem to identify what they are and certainly the technology involved on the trajectory and how they move. So what Harry Reid said recently was I'm glad the Pentagon is finally releasing the footage but it only scratches the surface of research and materials available. The U.S. needs to take this seriously and take a scientific look at this as any potential national security implications the American people deserve to be informed. So with that in mind Jay we have President Obama and Harry Reid basically saying there is a security threat or potential security threat and we are going to submit a report and it's going to discuss UFOs. Why now why after 75 years do you think our government which is denied all all all you oppose for 75 years why now all of a sudden. On Tuesday. Blow Tuesday. Yeah this is really how do I say I just don't put any stock at all in this zero. You know if if any pilots sort of up close that might change my view but they didn't they saw it at a distance and then there you know let the scientists figure out what the explanations might be but meanwhile it hasn't touched us we it hasn't done anything it hasn't been a threat. You know it goes on a list of things that maybe somebody in the back office some scientists in the back office of DoD or NASA should be studying it does not go at the top of the news heap. The news heap is the undermining and the destruction of our democracy this is no more no less than a distraction let us not distract ourselves. Well that's a topic of today so we are going to distract ourselves for a bit. You know what's going to come out of this report and I think the the Washington Post has already got a glimpse of it and it's going to say basically three things. Number one they can confirm that the United States does not have this technology that's one. Two they don't think or they don't know if China or Russia has this technology but if they do that would put us severely at a disadvantage. I'm going to remind everybody to October 1957 when Russia sent up a satellite called Sputnik and it sent the United States of population in a panic because now Russia had a technology that no one else had and not only did they not have the technology it was circling the orbit around the United past the United States. So basically what I'm saying is if this technology exists and the United States is going to confirm they don't have it does that put us back into the days of 1957 where we better figure out what it is and get it ourselves. Your thoughts. Well if this had some indication of being relevant to national security or to technology as might be used for national security that is one thing but you know I think that just as likely it could be an atmospheric phenomenon. I do not think it comes from the planet Kovac. Kovac you meant you named the planet a little while ago. I didn't mean I think I did I said Kovac but that's all right. I pulled that out of the thin air like like everything else I do. Well my wife and I do not sit at the breakfast tables talking much about Kovac. I said in order to discuss this topic we need not go to planet Kovac to discuss it. We're talking about a technology that is probably most likely a national security threat or initiative. Remember this is the military that waited five hours before releasing the National Guard. This is the military that has Mike Flynn or Mike Flynn's brother at the core of national security decisions and we haven't really gotten to the bottom of it. This is this is a military who is resisting you know commissions. This is a military where individuals from the military participated or supported the January 16th insurrection. So you know I just I come back to the same point. If they could explain to us why this is relevant, why it's really a technology rather than a weather phenomenon like a rainbow you know you can't get to the end of it. You never actually can touch it and it doesn't do anything to you. It could be you know refracting light who knows but it's certainly not something that has immediate relevance to us and I don't think it's going to be you know if they if they saw this stuff in 1946 you think they had that technology then? I don't think so. I mean if there was really a question of technology some of the various technology by Russia or by China went did they have it in 1946? It sounds to me like this is all a distraction sorry and I mean we can speculate about it but there's nothing no hard evidence of anything and it sounds to me like it's political or worse. I go back to the question why now? Slow news day you know somebody wants to distract us all of a sudden but you know the reality is where in terrible straits was what did Rachel Manow call it just a five alarm fire on voting rights then and we have all these people going to Washington and trying to explain to Republican senators they should vote for voting rights. You know I'm here to tell you maybe it's because of the infrared or ultraviolet rays coming coming out of these UFO things that is affecting our judgment you know but the Senate especially we're not going to get a voting rights bill and you know I think people have got to focus on what happens now and that includes Merritt Garland he's got to focus on what happens now and so you know I'm not sure that the meeting with Putin made any difference. I doubt that Russia has this kind of technology I mean I'm not even sure what kind of technology we're talking about. Why now? The media will pick up anything that it feels will interest the public anything and it's giving us a break from the normal the normal ebb and flow of political news and we should probably appreciate that. You know the Pentagon released this I mean in 60 minutes interview you had a very lengthy discussion with the two Navy pilots that observed these directly. I saw that and I was impressed. Did they seem credible to you? They seemed credible to me. They did they did but it doesn't matter because they maybe were credible maybe not credible. I don't think we can afford to deal with this and I think that even if they're credible it's not for us to make scientific decisions. We don't know enough and what's happening is the media is exciting everybody and the military is exciting everybody and DOT is going really bird over this but the reality is we don't know anything so we're going to get you know 330 million people all wound up in UFOs now. That has got to be the last thing on the plate. All right thank you Jay I knew I could count on you. You know Stephanie this isn't the first time the Pentagon has had to deal with producing a report. Now this report by the way I think came at the direction of Marco Rubio or at least he's one that's going to be one of the key recipients of this Pentagon report but this this actually was attached to a COVID funding bill and I don't know if it was one of those uh coat hangers that was put on at the last minute but be as it may it it was the funding for this this research and this report it was coming of one of the COVID expenditures so but like I said back in 1952 there was something called Project Blue Book and from 1952 to 1969 there was a cabal of the will of selected people in the government that it was their sole mission to investigate the phenomena of UFOs and report on it and after all those years over 12,000 eyewitnesses and reports over 12,100 or so there were all as Jay would say all explained away except for 710 of them there was no explanation whatsoever of what what they were and how they were put that aside so when they come out with this report in two weeks what if what if the report says we believe China or Russia or both have this technology and therefore the United States doesn't does that shift the the balance of power from a military sense and does that put us into a spending race a space race if you will back in the early 60s where we were spending a lot of money trying to catch up with the Russians and as you know the space race is history we had a lot of successes and we had some failures but we spent a whole lot of money doing it does that put us not into a an expenditure race as we did back in the late 50s early 60s well you know I think that I understand from the experts that have reported on TV that I've seen them on programs but like Jay says it's atmospheric or it's optical illusion it's that sort of thing that that is probably occurring so far they've been on threatening the Navy pilots were still very far away I didn't see any of these guys like taking off straight for it let's find out what this is so until they do that and get some hard evidence I think we stuff to leave it in that realm of very very unexplainable and as they've always said with these things however on the on the side just to add this just to remind everyone that more than 70 million people in this country think that Trump is still the president and he's been the best president the country has ever had okay I want to remind everybody let me be a perfect day I want to go with that point because what if uh this report says the technology exists but we don't know who we don't know who has it but it exists does that give the opportunity for a QAnon and the WACOs associate with QAnon or or some new group the opportunity to take this to the next level well I was going to say that was my next point because your question was that was your question originally and it's just like when we saw with COVID the COVID vaccine it's not like when Trump said oh let's get a vaccine that that's the first time the scientists picked up the test to I mean this was already ongoing part of the process of science and investigation into viruses so we there was already a huge a trend to get into this new way of addressing an attack of a virus like COVID-19 so well I think with with the UFOs if it turns out that that is it is real somebody is doing this the fins or with to zakistan or somebody's got this new way of thinking about things that can make them do magic things I believe it'll be like the men in black we've already got somebody working on this it won't be to that extent or that well developed or having you know colonies of tourists you know from other planets hidden underground but there's already somebody I'm sure that we have got a lot of advanced work you know like on the the plane that's under the radar and you know all of those technologies you know we're undercover for a very long time so I don't think we'd be starting from scratch or anything if it turned out to be real then yes I think whoever's doing this fast forward scientific effort of the big brains and the scientifically knowledgeable guys are out there building some things that they would fund that and we would get something going so yes I think there'd be a lot of money going into whatever that secret project is or that special project that yeah we can find out that this is actually emanating from kazakhstan and it's a bunch of clever kazakhstanis who have found clever ways to manipulate yak me into exactly I'm taking a wild subject you're trying to make it serious and you're just not helping right now okay I mean I'm sure we're whatever it may not be an area 57 but there definitely is money in our money tax money and I think we want it in an advanced a very advanced study of how to improve our technology by leaps and is this more or less important than the voting bill we're going to get through these things as soon as I get done with my question to winston j if you allow me we're going to get to this very thing winston I know you'll take this a little more seriously than mr fidel and that is we've already you know harry reid spent 22 million dollars of taxpayer dollars back in 2007 to fund this this effort to find out what these what these this phenomena is up in the sky and apparently I don't know how much out of the covid bill was spent on this but it is taking some resources and it's going to be reported in the next two weeks um where do we go from here is this are we get I'll ask this the same question to you as I asked ephony would this put the united states in a new spending race because we don't have that the technology now they're going to confirm the united states does not have this this secret aerial technology that's been witnessed by by not only these two pilots but several other pilots before um do we get ourselves into um a twist and start spending money hand over fist trying to figure out what it is and how to get it well it goes to jay's point I go to jay's point there's a lot of other things that we need to deal with there are a lot of other things that we need to deal with I agree it's probably a slow news day but mr fidel just said that he does not believe there's a leprechaun at the other end of the rainbow with pot of gold so I think we really need to question pretty much everything that comes out of his mouth at this point so for those of us that do believe in the leprechaun at the end of the rainbow for the pot of gold I would just state that um you know it does get right back to the slow news day voting act rights all of that because what it comes down to is when gallup surveys people and it says whether they believe in ufo's or not a majority of americans uh in a gallup poll in 19 2019 said 68 percent felt the government was withholding information uh that was down slightly from 71 percent in 1996 so what is pointing is is like a third of people believe basically in in us uh ufo's in this that that have landed here and this is true for men women old young catholics protestants uh independence republicans democrats independence actually believe it a little bit more people in the west believe it a little bit more than the people in the east um but i think what we're what we're seeing here is that uh you know and then and half half of americans think that uh people like ourselves exist somewhere else in the universe 75 percent believe some other form of life exists so what i think that there's this feeling is it goes back to an essential distrust of government are they really doing the right things are they lying to us are they lying to us well there's another poll that i was reading about why do americans and forbes believe in conspiracy theories one in five younger americans has heard that uh that we're being implanted with microchips from uh the uh with the vaccine versus one in 10 older folks so it's getting worse it's not getting better um you know the number of people who say that bill gates is uh you know done that his foundations are are good um younger americans only one in three agree with that statement whereas um over 60 uh half of the people agree with that statement that his foundation has done good in fighting hunger and poverty so we're seeing actually a trend towards more um acceptance of uh i won't even call them fringe ideas just ideas that say whatever the government is saying or what are these these institutions that we trust and believe in um are our our suspect and uh whether there's it's a foundation like bill gates or whether it's your congressman and then you have folks like marjorie taylor green who doesn't help with the jewish space uh lasers you know coming in so you know we have so many um ideas out there there's more people that believe in qanon than our episcopalians in this country and so i think that you know we've got some serious um issues here about credibility and who to believe when to believe why to what to believe um you know of course the real news is right here on think tech and mr fidel to his credit i'm gonna i'm just gonna leave my mind open to the idea of no pot of gold at the end of the rainbow i'm holding out hope um if the aliens are here you know and and we've had as humans we're fast aliens are here if they come here if they visit with us maybe even take us over i sure hope they give us a voting rights bill well that may mean but you got to think about like okay so if the aliens were here to destroy us and they were just here for our resources we wouldn't be here having this conversation right now most likely and i and i think that in all we have had a war of the world remember when that came out on the radio orson wells uh and that freaked out people uh and that was in the 30s right and so we have this fascination we have something inside of our collective unconscious as humans that there are aliens that have um landed on this planet that maybe were our four bears or whatever maybe they left us here to figure it out i don't know look at uh the space uh that the space Odyssey movie in the 69 that came out um that starts with the right the the uh the obelisk giving that the monkeys the power to make fire or kill each other whatever it is that they did uh you have it again and again that this is in range in our culture so it's interesting for us and it's a distraction at this point distraction or not the new story of this and why i'm reporting on it is for the first time in 75 years the united states government is acknowledging the existence of this technology that's the news story and then we're going to leave it we'll find out more in two weeks or three weeks whenever this report comes out they're never gonna they're not gonna tell us what they really know i mean we all know that and even if they did then you'd still have people believing and if they told us everything you'd still have the majority of americans believing that they're still hiding something so it doesn't matter what they say or don't say at the end of the day we do need the voting rights bill that there you go switching gears j speaking of hiding things the trump administration's department of justice lo and behold was hiding all sorts of things and uh apparently spying on on congressman democratic congressman one being adam schiff and eric sawwell yes sawwell sawwell yeah um this is very nixonian yes it is the coin of phrase yeah well but you know i'd like to offer a reaction on that is this just like you know the the first story and the ufo is uh we we don't know what we don't know but we know there's something that we don't know we know that um and and i would and i would i would venture to say this is the very very tippy tip top of the iceberg and that if he was doing this god knows what else he was doing um if he had the chutzpah to go after congressman and take their records what about you tim what about you stefanie what about you winston you think you were exempt somehow it would have been so easy for him to have a pre-see on all of us um so i you know i think i think the real revelation here is is that we we we knew this in our hearts didn't we we always knew this from day one tim right from the day we started trump week and now we find that our our um inclinations were were true but also it it affirms the notion that he was he was doing this on a broad basis and he was the worst part of course is that he was getting the justice department to do injustice i mean incredible do you do you think that uh jeff sessions former attorney general and bill bar former attorney general should be subpoenaed and discuss what they know about this specific uh invasion of uh to congressman i have to say absolutely in lithuanian yes yeah yes yeah okay there it is oh absolutely this we have to get to the bottom of this and it's not because we want to chase trump around which we do but we want to find out what happened we want to find out the depths of it uh we want to make damn sure that it doesn't happen again this is a violation of every principle in our government i mean you don't you don't have to be a historian to know that and to find out that he did it just opens the whole issue about where are we these days where have we been how vulnerable are we in the future this has got to be examined there should be punishment there should be punishment about all the people who were complicit and we know some of them but we don't know a lot of them and we we have to take steps to make sure it never happens again you know up till now the public talk about public perception has thought only the highest noblest thoughts about the department of justice after all it's about justice it's supposed to do the right thing you know it's the uh it's the incarnation of uh of john f kennedy um and teddy not teddy but the robert kennedy and so i'm to find out now that it is rotten maybe even to the core uh and even now being perpetuated under merrick garland who hasn't gotten rid of these people they have to one one left the other day but they all have to be rooted out the whole place has to be turned upside down like a flapjack and examined and fixed we're uh stephanie we already had one member of the attorney general's office resigned quickly uh because i'm sure all fingers will be pointing at that individual i forget his name right now but uh should we expect more in the eight the department of justice to basically flee because uh they're going to get wrapped up in this story consequences i mean they're going to do what they're going to do and if we don't have some impetus to kick kick them out i mean this is getting back to the garland issue again and all of the other concerns that jay raises i mean i am desperate over this because that we're just going on here nothing is happening these people are able to do these things the rest of the people that follow them are encouraged to continue and one one of the things that has come out in addition to they're getting all of that personal information which is unconstitutional finally it's true what i surmise had to be the case that trump gives people mortal threats mortal threats death threats children getting killed or hurt threats and these are being reported by all of the people he approached to change the voting outcomes in the various states and they are now saying yes i'm a wreck i'm a wreck i have to have 24 hours you know supervision surveillance around my home i don't know who's coming after who and they're saying they're going to hurt my wife it's outrageous and why is there nothing happening in a big way this is a good point good point we're running out of time here but i want to get your opinion on this you know this was all about uh find out who the leakers were in the trump administration and uh donald trump as you know was not very pleased about it and i'm sure any president is not being is not pleased about leaking uh sensitive information to the press but that's how this all originated uh where do we go from here i mean the merrick garland has already is already committed that he's going to abolish uh this type of activity moving forward but does it stop does it stop there and will it continue not to to occur pretty milk toast to me i you know so he's making a nice rule that could be overturned in one second or just ignored i mean just the fact that these people felt emboldened to do this in the first place speaks volumes about everything uh that while we have these norms and values uh they are not universally shared and i don't expect for bill bar or just sessions to come and incriminate themselves again this is this is a this is part of the mass cleaning restructuring reinforcement talk about american infrastructure we need to start with our government and and just reinstituting looking at these things of all the ways that people have gotten around and over and through and and that it was just became uh so corrupt and corruptible um in ways that we normally couldn't imagine so while jay is pushing rightly for voting voting rights and all of that we're still dealing with an electorate that was willing to elect this in the first place so we have fundamental issues here of education of um of awareness of of ethical behavior of what is right and wrong and and that we need to step back and look at those and do the best we can to show up our our our great nation on an individual level on a city level on a state level and we're uncovering this stuff there's a lot more to come about this um i'm not i i'm not uh hopeful that we're that we're gonna get a lot of um prosecutions out of it but we may if we can uncover the truth and at least know what happened and then do steps to take care of the damage and reverse it and stop it from happening again by really shoring up in every way possible that's the best we can the department of justice wrap this chew gum and walk at the same time i mean we do have a january 6th inquiry the investigations from the fbi all sorts of agencies um can they can they take this one on as well absolutely we need special councils for this if white house if nixon had something this is this makes nixon look like a kindergartner in many ways i mean this is this was so so pervasive throughout our entire system i mean you didn't you didn't have 10 former joint chiefs of staff or saying we don't use the military to adjudicate um uh these elections this this is so much more important than uh than that i they're both of course important but comparing it to nixon i think is is not fair not reasonable this is this is just so much worse and uh and we're we're also 40 50 years down the road we should have learned by now and had much better systems in place but again we can thank the last administration for showing us where these huge swiss cheese holes are and and how to patch them up just in reverse um uh engineering great point you know it's uh we're about a time but i do want to go around the table and say uh what what are your last thoughts uh jay what do you think's going to happen in here in the next week or two well it'd be more reaction certainly we'll find out about you know whether the meeting with budin was a nothing burger or what um and that that again is a matter of you know is it really priority if it's nothing burger i'm not sure it is but to me voting rights is a priority and the doj is a priority priority if you ask me what might happen it's useful is the um initiation of these investigations that's what we need to save our democracy you know we are in a five alarm fire we are in a tipping point of losing it and the the only way out of this is to find out what happened and take action and uh i would leave you with with one phrase that winston used a minute ago and that is a special counsel the doj doj should not be investigating itself it has to have a third party special counsel of impeccable credentials and uh you know honesty and so forth uh to take a look at this and it should not be anything like the muller report nothing like the muller investigation all right thank you deafening your last thoughts and you know winston brings up a great point and that is once again we're finding out what the trump administration was all about for its last four years and it's it's paying off in spades as they say uh we're learning more and more and gee we're only you know eight seven months out of the uh the you know the transfer of power it's amazing so many people knew that including his uh uh felton was reporting today on what what trump should be doing it with the art excuse me what biden should be doing with hooten that he was just incompetent and totally unprepared to be or a capable of being president but um i wanted to say that i don't know the steps for it if it's a special counsel but why are we not removing immediately this uh this prohibition on indicting a president so i can't understand other countries are speaking to it that there's no reason to have in this democracy a person that is immune it's the same thing as having a king or an emperor that they can do anything they want without any consequences so we're really suffering from that and it's got ramifications all the way down through the hierarchy and uh why we don't get on that again goes back to the voting rights act where we got to have that federal piece come in and get us in a situation of having voting work to get people in office who will carry out the duties and their obligations to the american people great you know the southern district of manhead may have a a point on that uh in the next uh six to 12 months you never know uh Winston your last thoughts please yeah i mean it may just be that the punishment comes in the in the form of the almighty dollar i don't know there's the court of public opinion that's very uh substantial in this nation and i would be stunned let's see what comes out in some of these revelations but honestly um we have we found that that half of our nation would accept the behavior of one person to do anything to literally kill someone in the middle of the street and have no repercussions for it so i think that um you know the punishment will come in other ways and it should come from the collaborators uh who who uh carried out these things and and were hoodwinked and a lot of my like uh the Q and on shaman he says he was a member of a cult and that's what his lawyer's defense is now and honestly uh i kind of am inclined to agree with it and as we all become wake up from this nightmare and bad dream with uh truth and reality and it's presented in a gentle way that's allowed to sort of um go into the mass consciousness will come to different understandings and the way to say yes in Lithuania's type i think taip i'm not sure how you pronounce it so there you go jay brush up before our next session and we'll get and if the coming things help us you know in star track i mean there was no more war disease or hunger within like two generations when after first context so for the trackies out there um we're holding out hope you know i tried as hard as i could to keep the alien quotient uh you know out of this and you guys you didn't didn't disappoint me you brought it in you had to bring it in all right well you heard it here you heard it here on think tech ally and that is the following we don't know what we don't know as it pertains the ufo's or spine on congressman thanks to jay fight out in his quotation jay i like to thank you for joining us Stephanie Dalton and winston welch thank you one and all for joining us on what now america join us next wednesday 11 o'clock i'm tim apple cell your host and i have been invaded by aliens aloha


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Snastro! Take a second and search YouTube for Super Nintendo hidden gems. Go ahead, I'll wait. You may have noticed that there are seemingly hundreds of these freaking videos. How many hidden gems could there possibly be? And what does hidden gem actually mean, anyway? I see some people calling uniracers a hidden gem. Okay, first of all, this game is average at best, and what makes for okay entertainment with its multiplayer aspect, but hidden? What is hidden about this game? It had its own commercial, for fuck's sake. It's time for action triple flip, back in the pit! It appears then to be totally slapping. Not only was it somewhat popular at the time, but I still see people talking about it regularly on retro message boards and such. Okay, enough lining. The point of this video is to point out the very definition of the term hidden gem. It's the game robo track. This game was literally hidden from North American audiences because they changed the name and the box art from its original Japanese title, Slapstick. I guess they thought Slapstick wasn't a name that would sell in North America, so they changed it to the totally generic sounding robo track and changed the cover art to some vague looking mechanical thing? And guess what? It still didn't sell. That's really a shame because the game is a lot of fun. It's a lighthearted, not so serious RPG. It's pretty short for an RPG too, and so it's a nice change of pace from the sometimes heavy, overwrought landscape of old school role-playing games. The character is the son of an inventor, aspiring to be an inventor himself, so you build and program robots to fight these monsters. It plays sort of like a proto-pokemon, only without all the collecting stuff. I really like the customization the game offers. It lends itself to a lot of different possibilities. You can make your robot like a tank, big, strong, and slow, or you can make a quick strike machine that enables a bunch of attacks in a row. Programming your own custom special attacks is also very cool. There's also a combination process to help create weapons and to level them up. It reminds me of how the Dark Cloud series eventually ended up being. Before one, though, there's a lot of grinding in a robot track, but the battles don't take too long, and besides, messing with the robot to come up with new and different ways to beat enemies is kind of addicting, and I like it. The story involves a once-peaceful planet that's staving off a revolution from these guys called hackers. They want this powerful stone called the Tetron that allows a person to travel through time. It's up to you and your robot army to stop them. Don't make too much of this story. It's told with a lot of levity, and it doesn't take itself seriously at all, which is a good thing. I will say this, this game can be tough to get into at first. It's one of the few Super Nintendo games where it really does help to either have the instruction book or to watch a walk-through on YouTube or something. Once you get the hang of it, though, of how to do things, the game is a blast. The music in Robotrack also isn't the greatest. The battle music gets old pretty quick. I know battle music gets old in pretty much every RPG, that's just how it is, but in Robotrack it gets kind of annoying almost right away. The music in the rest of the game is just okay, it's nothing too memorable. There are also some pretty blatant translation issues as well, but nothing that derails the game or anything. It's not as bad as, like, Secret of the Stars or anything like that, but it is noticeable. Otherwise, Robotrack really does fit the very definition of the term hidden gem. If you're looking for a forgotten RPG for the Super Nintendo, you should definitely give this one a try. It's a funny game that doesn't take itself seriously, with an addicting battle system where you control a lot, and it doesn't take too much of your time.


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Welcome to this public meeting of the Consumer Product Safety Commission. Welcome, uh, Commissioner Trump goes for the first, uh, decision and they will be the first, uh, meeting for myself as well. Um, but before we get started with the business of the day, I just wanted to acknowledge the communities impacted by the tornadoes that devastated multiple states this weekend and say that we have you in our thoughts. Uh, I also want to take the opportunity to remind people facing power losses to be safe when using portable generators in their homes. Uh, we've seen too much during this week, please be safe, protect yourselves from carbon monoxide poisoning and fires and always keep generators outside at least 20 feet away from your homes and never use charcoal in your house. Uh, the CPC has many other safety tips for keeping safe these times and I urge everyone to be careful. So, moving to the business of the day, we have 2 subjects with a total of 3 items on the agenda this morning. Decisional items are a draft notice of proposed rulemaking on safety standards for magnets, a draft notice for proposed rulemaking under Section 15J of Consumer Product Safety Act, meaning that no coverings if you do not meet the requirements of the existing ANC standard present a substantial product hazard in a draft. Notice proposed rulemaking under Section 7 and 9 of CPSA to establish a safety standard for operating courts for custom window coverings. We will begin with the notice proposed rulemaking for magnet safety and start with questions for staff if there are any. We have several staff members present in the event that there are questions with us are Mary Boyle, Executive Director, Dwayne Ray, Deputy Assistant Executive Director, Dwayne Boniface, Austin Schlitt, General Counsel, Alberta Mills, our Secretary. In addition for this NPR, we have Stephen Harshani from the Division of Human Factors and Meredith Kelsch of the Office of General Counsel who recently briefed the Commission on this proposal. Each Commissioner will have 5 minutes. After the questions are complete, we'll consider amendments. Once again, we remind everybody that while this is a fight to voice your personal opinions on legal issues, it's not appropriate to discuss legal advice given to us by the Office of General Counsel outside of the Executive Session of Legal Advice should remain confidential. So, going to the questions for staff or like the bank staff for all the hard work, and I have no questions at this point in time. Commissioner Biacco, I think you're. Thank you. First of all, I'd like to say that this is really terrific to share this decision with my new colleagues. I'm delighted that we have the panel that we have and I look forward to having our 5th Commissioner and a full compliment as for the substance for today. I actually have no questions. Thank you, Mr. I agree for having our 5th as well. Mr. Feldman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have no questions. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I'll finish a clean sweep here. No questions. Given that that is an excuse for now and we move to consideration of the package before putting the matter as proposed by staff to a vote. Interpreting any moment, any amendments to the motion that commissioners may propose. I do not have any amendments. Commissioner Biacco, do you have any amendments? No amendments. Thank you. Commissioner Feldman, do you have any amendments? I do not. Thank you. Mr. Trump, do you have any amendments? I do. So as drafted, if the final rule is promulgated, it wouldn't go into effect for 180 days. And that's the longest delay the statute allows without special justification. And here I don't see any grounds for delaying the effective data this rule. It's a product category that already had a mandatory rule that the manufacturers had to comply with. In general, do you have any unreasonable delay in the effective date of a final rule as a failure to protect people from a known danger? So I've submitted an amendment that would make the final rule effective 30 days after promulgation. Thank you. Somebody should second the amendment. Is there anybody second the amendment? I'll second. Thank you, Commissioner Biacco. Having heard a second, we're going to now move to consideration of Commissioner Trump's amendment. Other commissioners can ask any questions they have or make any comments with respect to the amendment. Then we'll come back to Commissioner Trump at the end. Commissioner Trump, you laid out the basis of the amendment. You can have three minutes, but I think you probably were pretty eloquent in laying out the reasoning for the amendment, but I defer to you if you want the three minutes. No, also, thank you. Great. Then as I said, each commissioner is going to have five minutes to ask you questions. We can have multiple rounds of necessary. And so I will start by recognizing myself for five minutes. Thanks for proposing this amendment and for raising the important questions about our historical practices with respect to rulemaking. You've questioned whether or not we should default to the longest possible deadline for implementation of a rule that is intended to protect children from a dangerous hazard. I appreciate your attention to this and I agree we should consider whether there should be a shorter implementation, really the shortest implementation period that's practicable. If there's sound reason to extend the timeframe, we can consider it, but our primary focus should be on the safety and protection of consumers. So I'll support this amendment. My college is the same and I'm going to yield back through the end of my time. Commissioner Biacco. Thank you. How many questions on the amendment? I will say, and I joked about this earlier in the week that one of the first things I raised as a new commissioner was short in the time period because it seems like it takes CPSC a long time to do things that need to be done. So in this particular instance, I do think that there's no more time to waste on this. This is this is a safety issue. It's been around way too long. And for that reason, I will support this particular amendment. Thank you, Commissioner. Commissioner Bellman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I too look forward to supporting this amendment and appreciate the attention and thoughtful approach that my new colleague is bringing to the commission. Rich, we're glad to have you. Thank you. Thank you all. Commissioner Trump seems an auspicious start for you. Do you have anything on the amendment? No, I'll keep my mouth shut, you know, right there. With that, let's move to vote on the amendments. Commissioner Biacco. I vote yes. Commissioner Bellman. I vote yes. Mr. Trump. I vote yes. I vote yes is all. The ayes are four and the nays are zero. The amendment is adopted. Are there any additional amendments? Hearing no additional amendments. I move to approve the staffs. The staff knows a rulemaking with respect to a man that safety is as amended and direct publication the same in the federal register. Is there a second? Again. Thank you. Now that we have a second, we can move to a vote. Commissioner Biacco, how do you vote? I vote yes. Commissioner Bellman. I vote yes. Commissioner Bellman. I vote yes. I vote yes as well. So the ayes are four and the nays are zero. The motion to approve the staff's draft proposed rulemaking as amended for magnet safety passes. The draft knows proposed rulemaking as amended has been approved and shall be published in the federal register. Now let's move on to the next set of packages for consideration. Two rules that together will ensure that when they're sold to consumers, they contain hazardous cords. I will start with the proposed rulemaking under section 15J of the Consumer Product Safety Act. When the coverings do not meet the requirement of the existing voluntary safety standards at the substantial product hazard. Again, we're going to start with questions for the staff if there are any. And as did before, we have the same staff who are available for have run abolished. We have run abolished from the division of human factors and married house from the office of general council who recently briefed the commission. Each commissioner will have five minutes. Questions after questions are complete. Who will be considered the nose of proposed rulemaking. At this point in time, I have no questions for the staff, but I do thank them for their hard work on this. Commissioner Bianco. No questions and likewise. I think you all for your work on this. It was very thorough and I appreciate that. Thank you. Sure. Echoing the sentiments. It's clear that a lot of thought and work went into this proposal. Thanks everybody for their hard work and dedication. I have no questions. Mr. Mr. Trump. No questions and also thank you for the very hard work. So having no questions. Staff is excused for now. We'll move to consideration of the package. Before putting the matter as proposed by staff to vote, I want to entertain any amendments to the motion that the commission may propose. The amendments. Commissioner Bianco. Any amendments? No. Mr. Feldman. I do not. Mr. Trump. Just a question of clarity. Is this just for the 15 J or for custom as well? This is just for the. No amendments. Having no amendments to this proposal. I'm going to approve the staff's draft nose proposal for making direct publication. The same in the federal register. Is there a second? Second. Second. Thank you. We have a second and can move to the votes. Commissioner Bianco. How do you vote? I vote yes. Mr. Feldman. I vote yes. Mr. Trump. I vote yes. I vote yes as well. So the yeses are for the nose are zero. The motion to approve the staff's draft nose proposal making under section 15 J of the CPSA for window covering with safety passes. The draft nose proposal making has been approved and shall be published in the federal register. Now moving to the final item, consideration of the nose proposal making on safety of custom window coverings. Once again, we'll begin with questions for staff if there are any. It has five minutes. And if your questions are complete, we'll move to consideration of the nose proposal making. I have no questions for staff. Commissioner Bianco, do you? No, I do not. Thank you. Commissioner Feldman. I don't either. Thank you. Commissioner Trump. I have none. Thanks. Great. Hearing no further questions for the staff, staff's excuse. And we'll move to consideration of the package. Thank you. Before putting the matters proposed to a vote, I will now entertain any amendments to the motion that the commissioners may propose. I don't have any amendments. Commissioner Bianco. No amendments. Commissioner Feldman. None for me. Thanks. Commissioner Trump. I have one. As for the. Just do the, the procedural. Quick role. Commissioner Trump. I recognize you for your amendment. I will ask you to describe your men for three minutes. And then after the conclusion, I will ask for a second. Commissioner Trump. Please describe your men. Thank you. Sorry for jumping the gun there. So as draft of the custom window covering rule would not go into effect for two years after promulgation. And as, as I mentioned before, the statute requires the final roll go into effect between 30 and 180 days from promulgation. We can only go outside of that statutory range of good causes shown. I think to delay a rule for two years would take extraordinary circumstances that are not present here. I'm not aware of any good cause to depart from the statutory range. So I've submitted two amendments. I said one earlier, but there's two on the same topic. The first would move the effective date into our statutory range, making the final rule effective 180 days after promulgation. The second would add a request for comment on the appropriate effective date. So let us take the amendments one at a time then so that we know what we're voting on and discussing. So let's start with the moving into 180 days. And then we can go to the second one just to make sure that everybody is clear on what they're voting. With respect to the 180 days, do we have a second? Again. As well, Commissioner Krahman. In a second, we'll move consideration of Commissioner Trump's amendments. The commissioners will have five minutes to ask questions for each of our five minutes to ask questions of Commissioner and Trump have multiple rounds if necessary. And that I recognize myself for five minutes. And again, once again, thank you for offering the amendment. I think the package briefing calls for two year implementation timeline for a rule that simply brings one part of the industry compliance with the standard that the industry set for itself. The amendment shortens actually the 80 days, which is generally the timeframe that we look at that the high end of the time that we look at between 30 and 80 days. I think that is, as I said before, in the focus of the commission should be prioritizing protecting consumers and establishing a timeline that is short as practical to make sure consumers are protected. I think I look forward, supportive of keeping us within that timeframe, and then I look forward to seeing what the comments are so we can figure out how to make sure that we set the right final rule. So I'm supportive of this amendment. And with that, I'm going to yield back through age or my time and smooth to Commissioner Bianco. Thank you. Yeah, I'm unmuted now. Sorry about that. I think there are many times that there are justifications for making the time period to address these issues longer. In this instance, however, this issue has been around long before I got to the CPSC and I mean years before I got to the CPSC. And for that reason, I think it's time to move on and I support the amendment. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. Commissioner Feldman. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. And thank you, Commissioner Tromka, for offering this amendment. The one comment that I would make, I don't know what the right length of an effective date is. I don't recall another NPR or regulation that we promulgated that has had this long of an effective date, two years to come into compliance. That said, I'm looking forward to supporting this amendment because I'm interested in seeing what comments it solicits. If there are compelling reasons to lengthen the effective date beyond 180 days, then we should pay attention to those comments and make a decision when it comes to a final role. And likewise, if there are compelling reasons to truncate the time period down to our minimum of 30 or anywhere in between is the statute contemplates, I'd be open to hearing those comments as well. I think this opens the discussion and for that reason, I'm happy to support this amendment and thank everybody and Commissioner Tromka, you especially, for offering it. Thank you, Commissioner Feldman. Commissioner Tromka, I assume as before you're going to go with what you got so far from the different. Well, you know what, pretty much. I did just want to say thank you for the collaborative approach we've all taken here. And I also look forward to seeing those comments and learning through that as well. So, thank you. Great. Now let's move to a vote on the amendment. Commissioner Bianco. Vote yes. I'm not control my mute button somebody else is so just. Commissioner Feldman. I vote yes, thank you. Mr. Trump. I vote yes. And I vote yes as well. So there are four yeses, zero does an amendment by Commissioner Tromka with respect to sort of the timeframe is adopted. Now let's turn to the second amendment that you filed was asking for comment on the revised timeframe. Did you have any additional comments that you wanted to make? No, that that one, I think ties in with what we were just talking about. We'd like to hear if there's any justifications for shortening or lengthening from from where we ended up. And actually what I recognize is I probably need a second on that second amendment. Thank you. Then now we'll go to around the questions. I think as you said, it's very close and tied to the first that we just voted on. So I have no questions at this point in time. Commissioner Bianco. None for me. Mr. Feldman. This amendment makes sense. Thank you. Anything else to add before we could put our vote? No, thank you. And let's roll through Commissioner Bianco. How do you vote? I vote yes. Mr. Feldman. I vote yes. Commissioner Tromka. I vote yes. I vote yes as well. That makes it for yeses, zero does and the amendment by Commissioner Tromka is adopted. Are there any other amendments that are hearing none with the amendments complete? I move to approve the staff's draft notice of those rulemaking as amended on the safety of custom window coverings and direct publication of the same, the federal register for a second. Second. Thank you. We have a second. We can move to the vote. Commissioner Bianco. How do you vote? I vote yes. Mr. Feldman. I vote yes. Commissioner Tromka. I vote yes. And I vote yes as well. The yeses are for the noes are zero. The motion to approve the staff's draft of the noes proposal making as amended for custom window coverings passes. The draft public. partie of the draft. Now, of course, when those post will make the proposal to approve, should be published in the federal register. Now moving on, that completes the agenda so moving on to closing remarks. Each of us will have up to 10 minutes to funny closing remarks. for it's been a very fast decision and I appreciate everybody's working closely together and having conversations to make this, you know, both through the briefings that we had through, you know, preparation beforehand amongst our staffs as well. I greatly appreciate everybody's work and collaboration and give it how important these issues are. It is good for the American people for us to move forward so quickly. So first, thank you all. And then thanks to the staff, the CPSC as well. And there's been a lot of work over the last month or so. Or briefings or 80 packages moving quickly to this decision all to be able to get this out for the end of the year to start the process of taking comments on these critical issues. So I do thank the staff very much for all their hard work. And now the packages that we're considering today really are designed to prevent horrific injuries and death from seemingly harmless items. If we can cheat final rules, we'll prevent children from being strangled by window courts. We can provide, you know, small children who will put them with anything in their mouths, as well as teenagers from devastating and deadly internal injuries caused by tiny magnets pulling towards one another in their intestines. You know, the packages that were put before us are strong and a crowd that we're moving forward on the moving process with respect to the magnets noticed in political making, which builds upon a previous rule that was overturned by the courts. It's backed by data that demonstrates the injuries and deaths dropped when the previous rule was in effect. And Rose, again, was brought, this is a powerful finding about the value of mandatory standards and cases where industry hasn't acted to protect the public. The two window blind covering will also say something important about the role of industry in the voluntary standard process. In the case of the stock window covering, the voluntary standard is effective or not found, but we'll take a comment on that. But the proposed rules such as how to get effective in the industry is largely compliant. We will be moving to adopt the 15J rule so inspectors can quickly pull non-compliant window coverings to the shelves. However, in the case of forward requirements for window coverings, the proposed rule looking at a situation where the voluntary standards have been sold, and those proposed rule making require custom coverings to meet the same standard as the stock window covers. Really the risk to children is the same regardless of whether a window covering is sold, a stock or custom built in custom slaves can be constructed in the same way as stock. Far too many children have died and been injured as a result of cord strangulations. We have to find a path forward to effectively protect this vulnerable population. I note that the window blind industry is working on to update its voluntary standard for custom blinds and ask for us to delay the action. And while I hope the voluntary standard practice process is successful, we simply can't put our other efforts on hold. In the end of the day, our children have to come first. We are moving forward with these two proposals. We will take comment from the public and obviously consider all those comments before deciding how to move forward. And in doing that, I urge individual consumers, consumer advocacy organizations, industry and other parties to give us all the information that we are going to need to make a decision in the rule making process. With that, I yield back my time and turn to Commissioner Bianco. Thank you. I'm really happy that we're moving forward on these issues that have been in front of us for way too long. They are important issues that need to be addressed and need to be acted upon. So I'm just thrilled. There are so many issues that this agency needs to address, should be addressing, and we will be able to turn our resources to new and other pending matters moving these two forward. And so I, for those reasons, I think this is a very good thing. And I think Commissioner Trump got for raising the, shortening the time period in his amendments on his first round, it was a good move and I appreciate that. And so I look forward to moving as quickly on the many other issues that need our attention. Thank you. Thank you, Commissioner. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. So today, the CPSC voted to move forward with two NPRs related to window covering.  So among other things, the first NPR creates additional enforcement mechanism for stock window coverings. These are products that are already covered by a voluntary standard by deeming non-compliant product to present a substantial product hazard. The second NPR would establish a mandatory consumer product safety standard for custom window coverings that aren't currently covered by a voluntary standard. While I support moving forward with both NPRs, I'm cautiously optimistic that a voluntary standard for custom window coverings may be established before a final rule is completed, as was the case for stock window coverings. It is a positive sign that CPSC and other stakeholders have re-engaged in establishing such a standard for custom products. That is something that should have occurred sooner, and I have yet to hear a compelling reason for any of the delays that we've seen. But incidents involving operating court strangulations are and remain tragic, and they've been unresolved for just too long. In that said, absent a voluntary standard that eliminates or adequately reduces the risk of injury and deaths associated with these custom products, CPSC must move forward to promulgate its own consumer product safety standard, and that's what we're doing here today. I want to thank staff for their hard work on both of these items, and to all my colleagues and Chairman Hunzarek for today's collegial discussion and consensus. Thank you all, and I yield a balance of my time. Thank you, Commissioner Bellman. Commissioner Trumka. Thank you. I think it's great that we're moving forward with these two packages today. I look forward to seeing the comments that we get back and moving as quickly as we can to address these safety issues. Thank you. Thanks once again to all of my fellow commissioners and to the staff. With that, this concludes today's decisional meeting by the Consumer Product Safety Commission, and we are adjourned. Thank you.