rder for him to still Potentially make that charge. Yeah Oh, yeah, okay. Sorry. I'm I'm required I'll leave it to you. I'll go and have a look to what's going on. Yeah So this is a big turn for john I think that uh the bad luck streak that he had there in the first turn Needs to swing back for him for this to be As close as I think it can be Jumping into that combat and counter-charging as well And they're nimble. I know he just moved him, but they could do that Got some shots potentially And I would think by the no reaction that they both missed We appreciate the exaggerated pointing guys Okay, both of them going into that one unit one hits three Don't know how many damage how much damage they did But elliott's got it marked up nerve test Possibly any other shooting Don't believe so and it looks like they passed again because elliott marked down the iron resolve All right some pretty critical combats now See what happens Okay Oh, he got him That's really going to help out john Clean up this side Looks like he's going to continue to screen with the gurpanthers Make that safe And he's adjusting his angle I don't know if I would have gone that far. Maybe he's tweaking it. Yeah And elliott's being a good sport helping him out They're pulling out the undo button here So they mark down where the gurpanthers are supposed to be so that they can see the angles otherwise So on the other side Where you were saying is there a double charge? Looks like there's a double charge on the paladin knights. I don't know the paladin knights right the um Sorry, I'm looking at the wrong one. Hang on. I need to look at the halfling list On the stalwarts, okay, so he's going in for he's going into the regiments of stalwarts But then you've got behind them immediately behind them. You've got the aeronauts and the edge grenadiers Yeah Halflings can play in waves for sure I wanted I wanted a halfling army when we first announced it and and I saw how they were going to play Oh, I see. So yeah, jerry says about swapping the cameras over So you can see one side from the big camera and one side on the other camera Yeah, just it's it's both typical that both games all the action has been behind the house So that's the iron beast gun Hmm So is that the first unit for elliott's loss now? No, he lost a unit of wild runners down by the windmill Yeah, I guess that's like we were saying, you know, when they start to fall they tend to go pretty quick I mean, I think I am that first round. Sure. I am surprised that the iron beast went down in one combat Yeah, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what charged into it actually Uh, it looks like his knights, right and he probably had his bane chance support there. Right. Um It may have been a combo charge. It's kind of hard for me to see. Yeah So the iron beast nerf 15 17 and defense six. Yeah, I suppose if he'd gone in with the The knights Uh hit number two thunders charge two, I guess like say if they had a bane chance that was down to three threes to win Someone's excited to know that was a also a big That sounds like we're in america. Yeah Yeah, is it it's a bit more quieter over here. It is much more quiet Typically jeff swans in a corner screaming something. All right. Okay So we need to up our game on the volume. Yeah. Yeah, okay Not not quite as uh flamboyant. There's not costumes. There's not yeah. Yeah, actually good point. That's yeah No one's obviously we have the the moon rakers. They're a team that wears a very snazzy waistcoats Okay, that's as far as we go really snazzy waistcoats uh Steve hill do hasn't wore his gold hot pants this year, which is I think we can we're all relieved about jake, uh Chiarra pica we call him pica chew He uh dressed up in a spam costume one year the actual canned meat spam Yeah, that was very entertaining So it looks like we're on john's turn now so that um Obviously the top of the combat's on the stalwarts. I think Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah Guys, yeah, so I've got completion. I put b.a. He's still finishing his turn, isn't he? Yeah, so this did look like a double charge Those absolutely should go away. So If they don't I'll be surprised Yeah, so stalwarts So that's that's why he moved the phoenix back. He's trying to stay out of range of the aeronauts Okay, right Yeah, so stalwarts defense four Do you think within alohi and I think someone else went into him as well? Yeah, those Should go Yep Okay, so that's what I think that's one regiment stalwarts but then like I say you've got the Educational ideas and the aeronauts is waiting to float in and uh potentially do some damage there But john's picking his combats and he's making it so elliot has to charge the units he wants him to Yeah, or has to I guess the thing is it's Obviously a numbers game isn't it with elliot really he has got the numbers to kind of Yeah, he's taking some losses this turn for sure And I think that john needed this turn to go the way that it has so far in order for it to be To to maintain a close game. Yeah, we actually have a game on our hands This looks like it's going back into the muster captain. Yeah It's up at the alohi. I think Yeah So 1416 on him is pretty low How many did he do those the question there's nerve one And if he didn't reroll it means he didn't hit the nerve and elliot's putting some wounds down so he's still there And he does have iron resolve so he did one less than whatever he rolled The ultimate insult really is not only do you not do it, but then they get a wound back. No, no, no six Yeah Yeah, he might have been unlucky with his nerve rolls. I think maybe john and this one They say to 14 16 So what sort wounds do you think the alohi are you going to do there? What are they putting out the horde of six hitting on three They should do fairly well the muster captain is defense five so They only have The base crushing so It's tough. He should have done About six or so. All right I might go out when the turn switches. Okay, they're close Just to get an idea of what uh What happened in some of those combats still pretty close or it's very close Okay, so looks like elliot's turn three now And I think he took that charge because it's just the only one he can take. Yeah, it's either take the charge or just sit there And there's nothing nine eleven. I mean, yeah, this should be a very easy Pick it up, but that's not what he wanted to charge. No So who's got the who's got one loop token here? We can see no one's got at the bottom of the picture I I believe elliot's picked up the one that was in the center, right? Which is the one point token. Yeah, I imagine that john Wants to pick up if he didn't already the two point with the knights But I don't think he did just based on how the charge happened. Yeah I guess he couldn't have picked it up with the phoenix today. Uh I the phoenix never got to the center line. So fine, right? At least I don't think it did I'll go find out. Yeah, I'm gonna go look. Okay So yeah castle is going to go and check now to see just to get a state of play So I'd say they took the towel because we don't know what the wounds are on people at the minute, but I think this one's going to be an important one Turn three obviously a lot of combat elliot does have the numbers he's got those Harvesters waiting to come in and obviously then he's got the edge of an ideas in the aeronauts that could do some damage as well So we're running a bit behind Today just due to lunch. So I think Let's have a look what the next game is So the next game will now be at 4 p.m. So if you're planning on Coming back later on the Fool's goal. There's a final scenario. So we've got three games today three games tomorrow I did look about maybe doing four and two, but I think People might be a bit worn out by game four Well, so I was right that the Wild runners are the only unit that have the token the knights moved over top of them But they don't have it right the one on the top of the screen that we can't quite see is completely uncontested Okay, the phoenix didn't have it the phoenix is wavered. So that's why I had to back right. I see He said he probably would have done that anyway. Yeah, so and yeah, uh, the muster captain had some damage and uh He's still there. So I mean he's Are those low here In danger of going because of that or do I can they might he he could do it? Yeah All right, so seven attacks sitting on three. Yeah, I mean he if he puts three wounds on him There's not a lot there. Yeah The low he have iron resolve also. So okay, it's a little bit of a tick back game Ellie it looks like he's chosen to go into Did he drop the token I think he might have yeah He's dropped it. So the yeah, so he's dropped the token in order to go into the Arbalest And then we got a double charge from the harvesters into the knights. Okay That is a bad matchup for those knights Yeah Yeah, because harvester so again hitting on threes Attack d6 plus eight. I mean, I guess he could get lucky unlucky with his d6 The attacks are one thing but the big shield of the knights in return. Yeah hit first not having thunderous Even if he does be enchanted with yeah crush one That's I mean they're nervous low, but that's that's not a good outcome. No Yeah, you need to be getting into the flanks though. Is it really? Neus I think is on the far side. Right You know neus is the one close julius is the one that's okay top the camera And julius is probably just sitting waiting for a flank to open up because he'll be fine if he does So I think he's looking there. He's just making sure he's within I guess that's within inspiring maybe for those two possibly an aura or an aura Oh, of course. Yeah. Yeah, he's done some light shooting against That must be yeah, that's julius at the bottom and neus at the top julius is at the top. Okay And neus has got some Oh, so cars got rules created from internet legend steve hill drew so Elliot onto his combat now. There's a few more wounds up. That's the uh muster captain Oh, he's taking off. Okay. So yeah, I was taking off the alohi with that one so now john's lost I think both of his alohi regiments possibly And he's just looking there see if he's got So john just lost his other alohi the muster captain managed to take them out I just had to rule against my good friends. Do you feel bad? Was he trying to cheat? Not quite. Yeah There used to be a understanding that if you were declaring a charge on a unit and it was in a different facing So if one was in the front one was inside That you could you could do the front charge and complete the front charge Yeah, and then charge later with the flank right now. It's it's against okay against the target You have to declare them at the same time. Yeah So elliott's just taking out the alohi and the girl pump is there Well, I had expected the girl panthers were going to go the alohi are the surprise Again though, this is just the side that has those one point tokens. Yeah, they're not nearly They get out both of them. Yeah The question is does he sacrifice his muster captain just to get one point? Yeah, and slow him down And so this must be into uh, is that into one of the arbalests? Yes, right, which is triple attacks. Yeah, so he's gonna be rolling for a while Unless john is nice and just says Maybe trying to get into time out. I mean that would be yeah, it's a strategy I mean so that is the one thing, you know elliott could Run out of time. Yeah, if he's got a lot going on. So one roll is enough I don't know how uh affected the Arbalests have been but they You haven't seen much being taken off by shooting, but it's seen in me. That's what it looked like anyway What the arbalest sitting on there They hit on force. Okay. Mm-hmm. Okay, so fours. That's the advantage of them over cannons. Yeah Cannons are hitting on fives, you know and You get a little bit more accuracy, but you don't get the same spike damage with the d3. Yeah Or the same piercing And it looked like elliott tried to reform there in a way that slid him in front of the arbalest so it can only shoot right At those wild runners. Oh, it hasn't got indirect. No, no, no, so it can shoot them. Mm-hmm Would be kind of a terrifying thought Well getting shot by an arbalest in the rear. Yeah, yeah, right in front of you So jerry's saying tell steve it wouldn't have happened if he had finished his orc. So, yeah, I think uh Steve did start an orc. Maybe actually started it for clash of kings, but he was starting to work on an orc army Well, he's playing the best army right now.  Yeah I think the only twilight kin player I think he might be yeah, he's automatically won best in faction Maybe that seems to be a strategy by a few people. Oh, that's another that's the night's come Yeah, I expected that So he's had a good elliot's had a very good round this one. Yeah, definitely You see john kind of swaying back and forth. Yeah, yeah punch drunk. That's the oh I'm interested to see what john does now In retaliation really for this one because he hasn't got a lot of options really as he sort of run out of And actually elliot hasn't lost a lot either. I see that's the issue not too much. No So I guess that that's one of the harvesters moving on to that. He's picked it up actually the Loot counter there So Zellio got both of the two pointers now Just the one right. Okay. He's got one worth one point And now one was worth two Because it looked like he dropped off the one token in the middle Yeah Charged with the wild runners into the arbalest and then something else there in the middle has picked it up I I think that is that his grenadiers? I think so It could be his uh, it might be spending it could be one of his troops of like The stalwarts maybe Yeah, because he's he's he's edge grenadiers and the aeronauts are at the top of the picture on the uh, the big picture They're quick Yeah, a lot of dice Because this is a big fistful of dice here. This must be for the uh To be the braves maybe 25 attacks. Yeah. Yeah So 25 attacks he's gonna hit with about five. Yeah hitting on fives. Yeah, it looks like Okay Getting all the queries. I'm not even on the stream So it looks like that was a double charge in the top This elliott's uh repositioning now Might have even been a triple charge, baby Okay, you get a cool name by viking. Yeah, and I've got sneaky beaver and then Martin's big dog I feel like I've come out short here So john's lost quite a few there. I think he's When I say he's swaying a bit punch drunk. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's tough One turn like that can really change a game. Yeah, that is turn three. Yeah That one's for the end. Yeah, it was top of three because elliott went first. Yeah Yes, this is john's turn three now In for it for the the board to be That much elliott. Yeah at turn three. That's that's a that's that says a lot I think john's had some bad roles. That looks a bit. Yeah Really, he had a good plan I thought he did uh, especially how careful he was with the charge at the beginning and then Two critical nerve rolls that were just below what you'd expect. Yeah Yeah, so there's wild runners Then against the overlays the winged overlays the first unit. That's a whole different game. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, totally Yeah, because gives elliott more things to think about doesn't it and it's like oh quite a bit Because he he was out of that arc. He was safe. Yeah, if he picks that unit up Then he's looking down his entire flank. Yeah without something to counter him. Yeah Oh, so it looks like it says naus at the bottom, isn't it? It's like naus has picked up a counter Maybe not. I see you know, I played guns to get that I think he's not sure what to do there. He might come back to it. Yeah I guess he's got well. He's got the time now. It's a bit of a lost cause. Yeah I mean, what can he do at this point? Can he He's he's got a couple of charges. Yeah, but They don't look like good charges even with that um He's a formidable unit, you know, he's got some decent defense and nerve so I don't know if he can position himself in a way that it makes sense Yeah, it would be nice if he could do some fun thing like pick up the token and then just do circles around the windmill Yeah, yeah, yeah, I suppose actually yeah, that'd be interesting, wouldn't it? You know going speed five even with nimble He could just kind of put himself out of line of sight and ride and that guarantees him one point As long as elliott doesn't over commit and send Multiple units to go take him down Unfortunately with the way that he was currently positioned I don't see a way that he could go back and pick up that token and not just be charged the next turn So halflings ap nerfing cop in cluster kings says jerry I mean they They're getting some changes not you know Well, it's it's really not that the half they are getting some changes that bring them down from where you currently see them but It's not that they're strong. It's that the other armies aren't At that level. Yeah, you know like we raised every other army. Yeah To be a part of what the book is that the halflings are in. Yeah. Yeah, so Everybody else gets benefits To bring it up and make sense I'll be back in sat when I look to what's going on. Sure And there was quite a bit of play testing on them and they They won pretty much equally as much as they lost and a lot of people think that That attention wasn't given but I mean it absolutely was and Elliott being a part of the rules committee and play test group and all that stuff. He's got Some experience with him which does help quite a bit Elliott looks like he's doing some kind of crafts Making a an angle that can fit into a spot that maybe doesn't Currently work I don't know what he's doing John's looking at his charge options bringing the phoenix in as well into the braves He might be thinking that if he can crack open that big of a hole that it'll really Open up his options Which is typically what happens when you take an infantry horde off the table Move his priest around the corner. I believe Once to be able to throw a bane chant back into his other units Or heal you never know Now what to do here he looks like he's thinking about the token I think based on moving it there. He's saying I am picking this up Sometimes it's a strategy to see I'm just going to Defend this not necessarily pick it up You can stand on it without picking it up and make sure no one else gets it So he's taking it and they checked his arcs just to see who can charge him back Bane chant with conjurer staff Gets the reroll based on how his hand flopped on the table. I'm going to say that he didn't get it Uh, so actually John's got a bit more left And I realized that the so on the top down view on the left where the phoenix is He's got uh, julius there. I think he's got some gerpump is there. He's got the phoenix there And he's got these illo here. I thought all his low. He had been wiped out, but they're still there So they to the phoenix and the illo he have both charged into the braves um I think he was trying to throw a bane chant into the illo he and and I think he failed right okay With the conjurer staff reroll Which that is I mean that's the story of the game for me. I think John. Yeah, John's been really unfortunate I think this one is I guess sometimes you just have those games, don't you wait just not quite going to plan some of us have way more than others Yeah, yeah This is a big turn for him to see exactly what's gonna happen If he does have more over there, that's good news Jerry maybe's making confetti to scatter when he wins could be I wouldn't be surprised Ellie it's a fairly humble guy And it's not over yet that other token being Mostly uncontested You know the the game is still what two to one right now, so unless John has picked up another two-point token, which I don't think he has But if the half like braves did and The phoenix and the illo he are going into it. Then that's obviously a big big potential swing The question would be what unit would he want to put the token on if he did pick up the braves that did have the token Just to see what happens. Ellie. It's putting some damage down Looks like the regiment did not pick up that unit. I'm assuming stalwarts Ellie it has to be concerned because uh, neus being speed nine can crack off a pretty effective 18 inch charge into the rear Of those wild runners, which would be just devastating for him so Ellie is making a decision to go into him in the front and then actually Nimble to turn around is what he was showing So because they have nimble, he was basically change-facing moving change-facing in a very Loose manner. Looks like they floated backwards and then just turned around So we're going to elliott's 10-4 now is this? Yeah elliott's turn four I think he got spooked by neus being in his rear and decided to back away from the arbalest um Yeah, I was gonna say I would send the muster captain after the arbalest if I was going to send anything at it It's like john wasn't able to clear those braves out. Yeah, that's tough My gosh, he's had a really tough tough.  I mean, they're the same as I'm gonna guess that elliott chose rallying on his gastro mancy. I think he had uh I thought he had brutal next to it, but maybe not maybe Whenever martini last night gave him brutal So it's on the ground a lot games have finished now. It's new already. Yeah, this one. Yeah. Yeah, you're living quick That's a great thing about kings war though. It's a it's a fast-paced game. Yeah. Yeah We're playing four games today and three games. Oh, is it only three? Yeah. Yeah I thought it was four today. Nice three today and two the three tomorrow. I'm talking about don't listen to me I guess we could offer people the options to play there for yeah And a lot of times what we do in the states because people travel from so far Yeah, it takes so long for them to get home is that you want to get out of there as early as possible on Sunday Actually, we gave it we asked around we said do people want to do the four But I think there's not many really in the uk where we've done four and two it tends to be Uh three and three so we did ask So we just we just play five games right three and two And it's nowhere near as accurate. Oh, so kiles So turn it up now. I think obviously, uh, maybe struggling to get on that hill Yeah, that's right. Mark was very far away. So he was doing the The running for me. Oh, okay It's like the harvester charging into I guess that's the priest Yes, yeah This stops him doing that's not a good matchup for the priest. No So that harvester maybe getting ready just in case the Braves get taken out as well. He's lining himself up This this could be a cleanup turn for elliott. Yeah, depending on how it goes Actually, I mean, I I thought john was in a lot worse position in the years But actually on that sort of on that left flank because it is on the overhead He has got some options, but not many Yeah, so talking talking to me to sing like he has been very lucky. Yeah on the nerves He's done the damage. He just hasn't I just recognized that swayed myself When I'm getting my butt kicked in my dice. That's what I do Yeah, I think I feel sorry for john I do too because he's done he's done nothing wrong. Yeah, he's done everything right. Yeah, yeah But I think a lot of it goes down to that wild runners that first turn. Yeah It looks like a bit damaged on the phoenix there That was the relentless re-roll. Yeah I think that's something I've blessed nerve Ah, he's shot with him. Okay. Right. Okay to shot with the wild instead of. Yeah. Yeah He didn't do it. Okay Maybe wave it Could be. Yeah, that's that's the risky took because obviously shooting at it Doesn't disorder it. No, so they can still shoot as long as he's not wavered. Yeah Okay, so now he's uh Looks like the this is the harvester D6 plus on the On the priest. Yeah, looks like you got a good roll. Uh, yeah Yeah d6 potatoes isn't it so four damage 1113 on the priest We need to breathe No, he's not inspiring. He is inspiring case. He could he needs a pretty big roll here. I was cocked maybe re-roll Oh John I feel really so it looks like look not look really but the kind of nerve rolls have been really on Elliott's side If he did four damage there, uh He needed a nine twice. Yeah.  Okay. So yeah and eight, but it's still it's still about the average dice roll This must be the braves. Yeah They're hitting on fives. Yep. He's taking out quite a lot there. Yeah On the phoenix though no crushing three That's pretty good. Yeah seven hit seven Seven damage. I'm assuming this is on the phoenix. Let's see Oh, no, I'm up on the uh, hello. Yeah, actually Oh, no. Oh, no, it's fine. I think that was on the aloe here. I think they're safe It's like he's getting is he getting all his dice together for a big one here. Is that uh This looks like a lot of dice. I don't wonder if No, no, no, okay This might be actually let me go another look. Yeah, that's the aloe I look like stalwart. That's like stalwart. Yeah, stalwart troop. Into the gore panthers Okay, so this is john John's turn four He's backing up. He's picked up. He's picked up the token with neus He's trying to get out of arcs here.  Is he there? Yeah When with the with the token slowing you down, that's the problem. Yeah But that's also the point So he's looking at I guess he's got some options here. What to do with the I guess he needs to take out the braves doesn't he really say he can turn ready for the uh because you got the aeronauts So it's john's it's john's second out a couple of units of wild runners stalwarts Took out his iron beast Yeah, so I think would have made all the difference. I think with those Those are the rolls It's it's a tough game like that. Yeah In a tournament setting if you have one game where your dice go against you. Yeah. Yeah, you can make the whole thing fall apart for you Yeah You've got to be good and lucky to win tournaments. Yeah So yeah, Ken and Jerry talking about the lists. So, yeah, we're gonna. Uh, hopefully just need to get the lists out On to on to on to tabletop To so we'll sort that out Hopefully later on today. If not tomorrow So they're all currently sitting on my computer and I haven't a chance to upload them yet A likely excuse. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was waiting for something to come in Um, so that is my excuse I think for the next game, we should try to get this as the main screen Well, so I did ask about that and they said that they would because the interference is So glitchy on that one. It'll look even worse on the I don't know. Okay, we can ask him We can always try it. Yeah I mean, I do see all the glitching and I get that. Yeah, so if it was a lot bigger You know, I might be dunking Possibly. Yeah. Yeah. Was that shouting in the background? Yeah Dan's been to a few us tournaments.  Um I can't even remember what it what it was but When you wrote when someone rolled snake eyes Yeah, they were supposed to shout out hip hip and then the entire room would say you suck. Okay, right? I thought you'd say hooray. I thought you're gonna be quite. Uh, okay.  Okay, you wrote you wrote double one I thought it was like a consolatory line. Oh, you're in said it was like.  Yeah If the phoenix wasn't charged last turn like it charged in but wasn't countercharged, but I think I think I think from what I was seeing that their braves went into the low heat. Sure That's that's the bit the higher threat target. Yeah, yeah Even though the phoenix was easier to take down I mean Fair play to john. He's still making Elliot think about it. Sure. He doesn't You know, it's not a It's not a complete whitewash. Oh, yeah, they're putting that. Oh, yeah, I forgot that was there There was a uh a wall there. I think maybe they forgot to put that back in it's not there Maybe asking about that wall was Okay, that's fine He's talking to martin possibly talking to martin about the wall Would that make a difference if they'd forgotten to put the wall back in they didn't even charge there particularly not A huge difference that's always the trouble with with terrain like this because you you want the Immersive elements. Yeah, yeah, but it also does kind of get in the way and if you move it just for gameplay simplicity. Yeah He's always lay it down, I suppose. Yeah Yeah, I mean I saw that uh, there's a bit recently. I think on the kings of war form about using 2d terrain and right this I think some tournaments. I mean uh guild ball. I think that was a lot of 2d terrain I mean that I mean well then again, let's say They're and in this movement every inch counts, isn't it? Sure. So So it looks like ellie. It's resuming the time on the clock. I that's a good practice whenever you have a rules question Yeah, any kind of a debate just pause the the clock to save yourself some time get it figured out and then resume I wonder if they were talking about that wall You need it again Two seconds.  So back now So it's like so now on the left. So, uh, yeah, I think for game three We are going to try and sort out the cameras so you can see a bit more what's going on In that top Then that sort of left down the side on the top view Okay. Oh, so that's the braves gone now for ellie So the bass looks like the low he can reposition This is looking he's measuring up there. I think that's the other stalwarts So just looking to see Where they're going to be charging So he's obviously still got those harvesters to contend with This table service for Elliott. He's getting a drink direct to the table so this must be Elliott's turn. Okay, so he's gone in for a double charge onto neus at the bottom there So it doesn't from what I can see anyway. It doesn't look like neus has any wounds on them So neus is defense five nerve 15 17 Obviously that must have captains had some wounds so maybe Neus could recharge against that okay, so the Wild runners into that are blessed Maybe just checking there Maybe checking if he's got a flank So it looks like matt's uh, maybe matt gilbert's been asking a question there Must be desperate when matt gilbert's getting asked okay, so the Looks like they haven't charged in there. Maybe we'll have to have a look see what that I can ask I was like you getting asked the question there kyle or matt What was the question so again a question that I was asked earlier And this was matt james Asking the question it was his games. Obviously. He doesn't want to yeah rule For himself. Yeah. Yeah on his own game But it was it was a situation where a unit had to be Within an inch in order to complete what he wanted So they had a really nice uh tool like a widget. Yeah, there was a 90 degree Ark, but it was an inch width on both sides. Okay. Yeah, so it was a very small l-shaped arc And it was perfect for the situation because the token was right in front of a Individual that was on a horse.  He can't complete the move right So just tiny things and then they had another situation from that where You know another individual was in a he was in the flank arc You have to charge the flank that you're in. Yeah But the individual once it made the connection couldn't align To him and fit right so it was an impossible charge. Yeah So it was it was both of those situations together in one instance that kind of Hampered the the player that was trying to do them and I felt that like you feel bad, but it's like, uh, technically that's how it goes How's matt getting on in this game so matt's got kingdoms of men He's yeah, he's taking kingdoms of men. He was playing against an orc player who he's an orc player himself Uh, oh that's interesting then so you'll know the tricks of the sleeves, I guess I think orcs are probably his main army. Yes He plays a lot of dwarfs. Yeah Um He plays diggy hole. I don't know if you're familiar with the song. No, I'm not. I will play it for you. Okay. Good. It's uh, it's a fantastic Uh symphonic metal song. Okay about dwarves who like dig holes. Okay, right? It's amazing if ronnie hasn't heard it though it changes life So I'm just gonna say while you were away john managed to get the braves off Okay, they're gone, uh, but it looks like obviously now the illow here about to get charged all over the place I said to john, I said I feel bad for you Yeah, it's julius in the list of bus lanes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah I think julius might be the only thing left alive with the phoenix over there And naeus down at the bottom. Yeah, who's been double charged So I was saying so naeus has no dummies I don't think he does no so Naeus, he's stout. I'm saying 1517, fence five plus I I don't know if those are the melee wild runners or the shooty ones Okay, I would think based on how he's been playing them that they're the melee ones. Yeah I know that the ones backed by the arbalus are one of the ranged options. Yeah, but he had two regiments of each So they look like they're back top actually. I wonder if they're just gonna carry on shooting Yeah, I think he's just continuing to shoot. Um Um I'm not sure why I don't know if he just thinks that his damage numbers are easier to go that way Yeah, so what's the difference then say if you're shooting compared to So with range they're hitting on fours or a range they're hitting on fives melee, they're hitting on fours But he's got piercing with the range attacks. Okay, so I think that's what he's counting on is that he can just do More reliable wounds with a piercing than than otherwise There's no cover there. So that makes no That's where you do that math in your head. Yeah, that makes sense Okay, so it looks like You're sitting something at the top of the uh, sorry the left hand side of the top down view there I think I don't think he's taking anything off I mean earlier it's still got a lot left but actually You know, he's well it depends. He depends on if john can manage to take it out Yeah, the scenario play is is much closer. Yeah. Yeah, the arbalus has gone there So this will be a key one if neos can survive then I I don't have a lot of confidence in him. No, okay John needs a bit of luck now. He does he does Yes, that's the first wounds on him. Yep I didn't catch how many that was but it looked like maybe around five or so. Yeah, here's the captain Oh Yeah, he's inspired Come on john Oh no, I thought he'd managed to survive then Yeah, I think he directed that towards elliott's dice. Yes. Maybe we need an official dice check. No tournament dice check Yeah, I think This rat I think john can look back at this. I think well, he didn't do anything wrong. I think he can just Blame his dice. Yeah And sometimes that's the case. Yeah I'd be curious to hear his thoughts after the game. So yeah Yeah, I'm not you know, we keep going back to that turn one, but I still think Okay, this looks nasty. Whatever. I mean, that's a big handful of dice there from elliott, whatever this is going to be I guess this could be it The braves are gone, right? So yeah, the braves are gone. That must have been all hits Whoa, that's outrageous. Yeah What's he doing? What are these? He's taking out about half of those That's still quite a lot 10 I mean 10 damage you do with anything is just devastating Okay Hello, he gone overrun We're not overrun the reform The harvester. That's what it was Harvester in the flank Harvester. Yeah, edge grenade is on the low heat Plus the brutal. Oh, yeah, nasty It seems almost inevitable that elliott and dan are gonna come up against each other I don't know how dan's doing actually when I did shout so yeah when I looked uh When I looked last time I can go and have a look actually see what You know quite a lot like quite a few exploded aeronauts on the side actually for dan so I think elliott's list is more equipped Uh to do better in a variety of games, especially in scenarios I mean that's the idea is is especially with what we want to do in clash of kings is Just to make stuff more competitive Uh with balanced lists What's this? Depending on when they finish up We'll try and see if we can get them to come in just real quick And give some feedback We've got a tighter window between the matchups because lunch did run a little long for us John's not got a whole lot of options left here at all. So Probably looking at what to do with julius Again using the proxy base, which is a great great tool to see where You'll end up These are two gorgeous armies elliott's is almost completely mantic He had to use some things that uh, we have not released yet for like the aeronauts But john's is a hundred percent mantic and it looks fantastic I really like how careful john is with his angles. He's extremely clean as a player Careful to make sure he's got everything covered You can't really ask much more for more than that in in tournament games And I don't think this would have gone as bad as it did for him Were it not for a few of those bad dice rolls? So matt has just announced that there is 30 minutes left in the round I think a lot of games have wrapped up already. These guys are clearly pretty close to being done I believe this is the bottom of turn five To see what he does with julius At this point in the game when I'm playing I know I'm looking for Attrition whatever I can do to just kind of help my tournament score Which I think he just failed that nerve roll As well so we flipped over to elliot. He should be quick here Five inch feed stalwarts are just going to protect themselves Phoenix fell over that's terrible I'm not sure what elliot's looking at I think he may have rolled a wild charge there And I would assume based on his movement He didn't get it since you do roll a wild charge before you get to declare a charge You just know what your range is going to be ahead of time And he's just going to hunt down the rest rest of john's units at this point Awfully friendly of him to just move his units like that. Why not? So he's taken some shots. I imagine at the phoenix here Don't know if there's cover elliot picked up quite a bit of them doing math I think he's okay The phoenix has been surprisingly resilient at the start of the game I said that the shooting would be dangerous to him But I think that uh the fact that he's still on the table at this point is pretty impressive. Yeah, sorry kyle has got uh Wicked away there for a minute So what's most is vibe the phoenix Is that it? Is the phoenix? I think he's got Julius. Yeah Which it's flipped back over to john elliot didn't do a whole lot that turn I think he rolled a wild charge that he didn't quite get the distance he wanted on Uh moved into position with some things moved the Ranged wild runners in to shoot the phoenix and then didn't do enough damage I think the phoenix had cover from the house because he's not quite got the angle on it So, uh, I think one of the other halfling lists has lost. I don't know about that's matt hobday with his aeronauts heavy list So I didn't use spam then, you know, I chose my words. Sure. It's just the halfling raf I don't know about dan king. I think he looked like he may have won his But yeah, most people are finishing up now. I think we uh This round so this round was going to finish At half past obviously we're a bit behind so that's quarter to so we'll be back on for four p.m And the most important thing everyone at home. I'm going to get the tally for the beers I've asked andy here who's in charge of the bar. So he's going to let us know I know you're all on tenterhooks About that one. I want to start drinking just to help Yeah, I think we there will be said jerry's on about the dice. I don't know if you've already addressed this I think we will have an official inspection of the elliot's dice up for this. Yeah, I think you're done I did hear the ping of the microwave before we started so yeah He's threw him on the griddle real quick. Yeah rolling for seventh turn Which looks like uh, they're not having one. What do I Maybe yeah, they are Ellie it's got the the lean in Yeah John would have done better at least attrition wise Because the wild runners look like they got a charge in and then some other things are coming into See when he's running for the wild charge there or I believe so. Yeah Could be could be brutal just to finish things off So that's two both games we've had say about gun to turn seven. Yeah Yeah, I like to say jump here's an instance where it's not going to flip. No, no, no, it's not I guess yeah, like I say John just would have been happy with that a bit more points on the attrition So do you look and elliots I think John I still think I feel very sorry for John actually for this one. Yeah. Yeah We've all been there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah And I think you know A few more different dice rolls and it could have been a bit different. I think sure So we'll have to see obviously Who's on it might end up You know at this rate it could end up being elliot on the top table again But we might mix it up get someone else on sure At this point in the event. I think that's a good call. Yeah, you know, if it was the very last game Yeah, sure Then yeah, I think we need to put him up there again, but I think some people might want to uh Battle downstairs where it's a bit cooler where there's fresh air. I've heard that I've heard some players saying that they're losing on purpose to stay downstairs. It's quite warm in here I mean, that's a good excuse. Oh, I lost so I could battle downstairs. That's exactly what I'd be saying Oh, there's a phoenix gone. The phoenix put in some good work. It did. I thought it was gone like turn two, but um So I guess this is Julius now. Oh, Julius. Sorry The dragon of heaven. You can have a little bit of revenge. I guess Julius Julius does work. Yeah I know we're not meant to have favorites, but come on, John Based on that dead blank stare After he rolled those uh, so that is yeah, I think we'll we'll have a chat with john afterwards. I think it's here Yeah, because I think Yeah, I feel sorry for john in that one. I feel Elliot obviously, you know not taking anything away from Elliot. You play a very good game Um, but you look and you think that could have gone a bit different. I think that one so So we will uh be right back now. So we're going to be back in half an hour So uh next round is at 4 p.m So, uh, we'll come back then for the next one, which is fools gold And you can tell us all about that scenario 4 p.m. So thank you very much everyone who's joined us for this one and we will see you shortly. Bye. Bye Hello, hello, hello, and we are back for game three of day one of clash of kings 2021 Any more numbers? Cardiff Wales in Cardiff Wales. Yeah, there we go. Actually, we haven't said we're in Cardiff um And we've we've mixed things up a little bit on the top table this time. It's not actually the top table um Elliot would have been on again, and we've just watched Elliot. I mean, I'm bored of watching Elliot Are you bored of watching Elliot Kyle with these broken dice? You know That those dice are just completely jacked up. We we we looked at them I think that we've called the police at this point. They should be here any minute. Yeah, uh, We'll try to get the stream to show coverage on that. Yeah. We yeah, so yeah, he's yeah, those dice are going to be We've had some people turned up in hazmat suits radioactive kind of things because um, they were setting off the geiger counters A bit of a worry So now I've already been accused of putting matt on because he's playing as goblins But actually this is matt gilbert's fault because he randomized the table. Well, that's you know, there's a lot of accusations being thrown around mainly by jerry um, but this is matt uh with his goblins versus jannis and her night stalkers I will say jannis is Six pints in oh, okay. She's okay. That's good to know. She's helping us in our cross He's fixated on the uh, how many pints have we ordered interesting update on that Because I know that's what everyone's really tuning in for and They're almost running out of pint glasses So that bodes well for that record Um, so yeah, so we are going to be playing fools gold Uh, so before we look at the list How's fools gold work? So fools gold is It's objective based except this time you're using 10 specific objective counters and They're the bluff tokens. So This is a little bit rarer of a game that you see, you know, at least in my opinion for tournaments in the us You don't see these played quite as often. Uh, so the counters are unique in that they've got a number on the back side of them Zero one or two. Yep, and you can place them Bluffing, you know, what you think like could be an important objective. You could put a zero down there Okay, whatever it might be So at a certain point these are going to flip Uh, and they just become regular objective markers, but then you know what, you know, it's to end of turn Three or ten four. I I believe it's turn three. Okay. Well, we'll We'll we'll check on that one. Yeah, so this could be an interesting actually because this could sort of That slightly random element could actually have a big difference, I suppose in round three All off counters are flipped Look at me now. Yeah. Yeah, you got it the first time today, I'd say So making note of that. What time is it? It's uh, 18 minutes plus four and I knew the rules um Yeah, so we uh So I think uh Matt and Janice, uh In the doldrums, let's say on the uh, you know on the uh table, but uh, hopefully we should have A bit of fun. We'll see how they're doing and and yeah matt has got goblins I'm not saying this is the only time that goblins would appear on the live stream, but Maybe it is So we'll go through the lists Now I can actually for once know a little bit what I'm talking about with the goblins So it's quite exciting for me. Uh, you've got sharp sticks regiment of 20 Not personally. I'm not a big fan of the sharp sticks I've got the phalanx, but I normally I think this she's just a fan or he's just a fan of that price point Yeah, so matt matt as well is is uh Oh, it's they've swapped over. Do you know what I mean? This is this always happens, right? I tell I'll swap the names over in a second, but this always happens Just when I think they've all got set up they swap over with their names um Yeah, sharp sticks always get squeezed out by rabble for me. I've never I think that rabble are You know we on the rules committee even we call them point for point the most Uh defensive unit in the game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and Also, no hordes Yeah, normally I thought it was all hordes hordes hordes You know my currently with my goblins It's four hordes of rabble and then you would unlock all the shenanigans around that He's got no No wing it's either. No wing it's well. I'm almost Shocked. This is like an old school goblin. Yeah, we're seeing why he's uh in in the standings Oh matt, but uh, so yeah, so he's got uh three hordes of trolls Uh, so he has got a wrap. Sorry. He has got a regiment of rabble. Then we went to three hordes of trolls One with the staying stone. I mean that's sort of Standard really because their nerve is a bit odd with 14 17 So it doesn't mean they can get wavered quite a bit Typically if I'm using trolls I would put staying stone on Or the Dwarf who? Yeah, get some headstrong. Yeah, get some headstrong, but that's quite expensive actually. It's 15 points. Yeah, and so they're not They're not a cheap unit, particularly 190 points for trolls And the other one too chalice of wrath is fury. Yeah, if they if they get wavered in combat, they can at least counter charge Yeah, that's a good one actually. Yeah, also 15 points. Yeah, they're they're good waver mitigation tools, but You start ranking up the you start racking up the the cost of those He's got another one with a healing brew on so I guess that's a once per game Isn't it you take the brew it's a d2 so it's not great, but no it does help So it's weird with because you've got regeneration five plus on the trolls I never regenerate ever I'm also I'm always very jealous when I see the mutant rat being regenerating on the length. What is it falls? Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, it's so jealous. Um, you've got two troops of flea bag riders next um interestingly He hasn't got Any oh, he's got the one he's got the more pup on the regiment So the more pup it gives you basically a one game one unless you reload it So maybe that's what he's thinking of doing you get a one game uh six a d6 attack six six So six attacks hitting on fours cushion strength one, which is brilliant actually because sure um Goblin struggles to hit stuff So if you've got your rabble horde going in with 25 attacks and you've got a cheeky little six attacks That can make a big difference actually i'm a big fan of the more pups actually and on something like a Look at troop We've already got 15 attacks Do that first one where you're getting six and you can reload them. So that's good Uh, so yeah, so anyway, he's got a regiment of flea bag riders with the meat of madness So it gives them wild charge d3 and more pup. So he has got more pup on those I mean madness. I think it's just wild charge plus one. Oh, is it sorry? Yes. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, since they don't have it That's right. It's just giving them. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah, you're right there Mincer mob regiment of I'm a big fan of the mincer mobs So many attacks. Yeah There's so many attacks the problem is hitting on fours. Yeah, it's swinging. Yeah And they've got cushion strength one thunderous charge one. They're all out on that first charge, but after that They can be a bit hit and miss you might need a bit of bane chant Uh, two big rocks throwers. I mean now we're sort of into familiar goblin territory Uh goblin slasher Again a unit I never really see Used a lot now now Changes the foot maybe for that one Um Yeah, lovely model, but again just sort of get squeezed out He's got the king with jareth's pendant which gives him a headstrong aura Uh, that might help with the obviously the charge. He's got he's got kind of a uh A combat army. So yeah Yeah, that's that that is good for the trolls. Yeah, you got the uh, two whizzes Uh, just both standard both with lightning bolt.  I think I keep looking at but never really he always kind of gets squeezed out Maguire and joss So I speak to Matt earlier on he says that maguire just does not die So he hasn't I think maguire has always been his remaining kind of uh, unit And then last one he's got the magwans, which are the Uh more beast pack but they're not irregular and they have defense four instead of Defense three. God sure. So that was for once I did quite a thorough analysis there. That was that was great, bro Yeah, thanks. I'm I'm impressed. I'm just gonna leave now.  Oh, so nick savage. So nick works at mantik He says just tuned in and robbers picked a goblin's games of stream definitely biased. I mean, of course, nick I'm nick boss as well. So he's in trouble now. Gotcha Monday Right, okay, so getting ready to start. Uh, I'll swap the names around. I tell you what while you're doing this list Kyle, I will tip tap away and swap these names around Yeah, very quick overview of jensley. She's playing night stalkers She's starting off with a solid base of two regiments of scarecrows Uh, obviously these guys aren't doing a whole lot of damage, but they can they can score and they can they can win you games In that sense too. So the wild charge is a surprising thing if people forget about them and leave them alone Two regiments of doppelgangers. These have gotten more popular over the years and jan has given them an item apiece So one of the regiments has blessing of the gods giving it elite. The other regiment has brews strength So when they steal your strength stat, you're adding to it and in in the instance of you know Going up against goblins when there's not a whole lot of crushing strength Now these doppelgangers have it built into them. So nice option. Uh, they are fairly weak defensively So you've got to use them right and they're easy to kind of chaff up and mess up. So we'll see what she does two troops of reapers Which are one of the highest attack troops in the game Uh, a troop of them very efficient with 20 attacks hitting on threes and crushing one. Oh, they're awful Yeah, I've been on the receive again because martin will be talking to me. He was practicing with his night stalkers before he came They're nasty. Yeah very quick Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're a hammer for 135 points. Yeah, and that's that's very nice Uh, she's also decided to add two five-point items the blade of slashing and the mace of crushing She's just counting on that damage to actually stick which I think is a very good call Uh, then she's got two hordes of butchers One horde has the brew of sharpness which I like on butchers quite a bit because they also hit on fours and Making that change to threes is just such a big deal Yeah, I think actually that's one thing that I do on the mince and mobs Yeah, uh, because hitting on threes all of a sudden if you're getting 21, you know, plus d6 attacks Yeah Chef's kiss chef kiss They're also pointed appropriately to do that. So butchers are at base 205 points Yeah, when you're paying that hefty 45 point tag for the brew of sharpness, it makes it, you know 250 is is kind of in the range for what a lot of other Melee three up units are so it makes sense. Actually, they're 1618 They they're not too. Yeah, they're quite a high nerve. Yeah, that's that's a fun with the mince mob Yes, they're fearless, but they are the 16 nerve. So All right. Yeah, I can go The other one's got the potion of the caterpillar which she's counting on those fours staying as fours Yeah, unfortunately, there are two walls right in the middle which the caterpillar will not help with So if she can avoid those that would be beneficial to her Uh Then she gets into what you would expect from night stalkers three mind screeches Uh, it's such they don't come in anything less today. They only come in threes It's it's it's such an efficient unit because it's got three options for spells It can score it can fly it can actually attack if you needed to in combat just to you know throw a disorder on something So uh for 150 points you can do quite a bit and in this scenario They're very good. Yeah Having 10 tokens on the board means that you've got to find out what a lot of them are Yeah, uh and get to them and and with fly and nimble. She's she's gonna have that ability So she can keep them alive They are going to be susceptible to things like those big rock throwers, but then you have stealthy Yeah, but I mean, they're a bit like uh, the mind screeches a bit like a big movable flying War engine, isn't it really? Yeah, I've got so much. Yeah, I mean that's it. I guess it's a bit like the I guess like the like kelled on a bit in the salamander list. That's the war engine. But yeah, they're Yeah, martin again. He runs three of those and I Disliked those yeah quite a lot and then she's also taken three horrors and One of them she's given the boomstick Which gives it an upgrade of lightning bolt the other it also has aura vicious for her melee It looks like all three of them have been upgraded with the aura vicious uh for infantry So that's her intention to get the scarecrows to be a little bit more effective and the reapers to be very Yeah, yeah, so with all three of them having that there's a good chance that she's gonna have it I I think that may have been a slight waste in points to give it to all three but If she I want to see how she plays it and see what advantage she can take 30 points is it so 30 points a piece Okay. Yeah, and she's only got the scarecrows and the reapers that can take advantage of it Yeah, so quite a bit there. Um, but the horror the horror by itself doesn't Look that tasty really does it I suppose I mean One attack it's it's a support. It's yeah, it's a caster. Okay. It's it's a support caster They've got lightning bolts. That's what she's looking at because right essentially the mind screech has Lightning bolt six apiece and then these have lightning bolt three apiece. Yeah, that adds up That's you know what 18 lightning bolt right there from The mind screeches and then another nine on top of it. So it's quite a bit The reaper soul drinker is her next hero. She's given it the wings of honey maize, which is probably a good Choice for the reaper. That's that's giving her the ability to go hunt characters war engines The big rock throwers, you know, that's something that needs to look out for but you also take away the advantage that the aura it has it has aura life leech one for the reapers and If you're flying off hunting other things then they can't get that life leech bonus. Um But they are just troops. So yeah nervous low and then she has Shakira the wailing shadow Rob enjoys the nicknames. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's good. I I'm uh, I'm learning a lot about the nicknames Eshin Eshin Shara Eshin Eshin Yeah We we call her Shakira. Okay, that's a lot easier to say I think generally we should probably they should have all names like john Right. Like Dave Dave Dave the wailing shadow. Oh, no, it's a lady, isn't it? So, uh, Denise the wailing shadow feel a lot easier So it's a new living legend that was in uh, Halpy Halpy's rift and It's a banshee that basically is able to use their, uh, windblast and um, Oh, what's the other one? It's the the role. Yeah and through all, uh To to do what a surge would do so the enthrall is the bagailma She can pull you towards her and then start a combat. So it's it's really nasty and for what's normally a castor character Uh, she's got melee three five attacks and crushing three with dread. It's insane. Yeah, I think again Martin's I think because thanks to you kyle started taking uh, Shakira And yeah, that really caught me by surprise actually because you just she's just sort of flying around Flying around doing what doing you know kind of being a bit weird, but then she comes in and then she starts doing the damage So yeah, not not nice at all. Um So it seems I mean it seems quite like say you you've got a bit of kind of Kind of uh, the points on the horrors seems a bit expensive, but generally Doesn't look a bad list. Sure. Yeah. No, I I think that she's got a clear direction of what she wants to do she's got some synergies that are in place and uh I'm excited to see what she can do against it. This is it's an interesting match up goblins are always tough There's just a lot to get through If those reapers can charge on their own terms, it's a good thing that the danger is that uh, I'd want them to be into the trolls, you know, that's that's my target for the reapers and I don't care so much about the rabble the rabble can fight the scarecrows, you know, that's Oh, they've changed sides again today Apparently I don't believe this. There should just be a swap button. Is there a swap button? They just keep they just keep I think they're doing this on purpose The walkie-talkie must be like something they're listening to. Yeah, I'm gonna have to change. I'm gonna have to change the names again They're honestly doing this on purpose. They must be right. So just uh, bear with me a second. I like change names again Oh Didn't switch the bottom. No, switch sends his own names. At least that's easy. Click in that field and then try it Oh, no, I don't want to start. Let's stop. Okay. Okay. I think it's brave that we managed to switch that No That works There we go. That'll do They're doing it to vex me. That's what it is. They know that I don't enjoy I guess one thing that Matt will struggle against now is obviously all the night's talkers with their stealthy Stealthy is a problem for Matt. Yeah Yeah, depending on what he wants to target Yeah, because he hasn't got yeah, he doesn't have the same volume of shooting that you would know I was about to say he's in fact. Well, he's got the whizzes Uh, but they're not affected by lightning bolt isn't affected by stealthy. It is not. No, yeah Uh, you got the slasher, which will be and then the big rock The big rocks throwers magua And joss obviously will lightning bolt for Yeah, do you know what? I don't really look at the magua. Magua's quite interesting So that we were talking earlier about those mini dragons, you go attack seven lightning bolt four cushioned at two dualist individual Inspiring mighty vicious wild charge d3 got a lot of rules. I feel like quite a bit If I need to relook at magua a bit I'd love to give away a teaser from from classic games Talk about a character that the twilight kid are getting one of my one of my favorites Something fun That she's able to do she's coming from league of infamy Okay, our girl On the box. Yeah. Yeah. Um, she's got the ability to nominate a unit That will strip Stealthy or spell word right for the turn. Okay, so if they have stealthy she can take it away so that your unit's Can then shoot at it clean. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. That's nasty So we're still waiting for uh, I guess hop us full Okay So, uh, Matt and Janice are gonna have to get a wriggle on if they want to finish this game Maybe they didn't realize it's setting up from the clock In office matt has been Last to finish a couple of games But we'll see how it goes. I'm sure they'll speak up once they realize maybe so Yeah, so I think it's it's interesting list on matt. I see I think he's uh, he's determined he wants to paint every single goblin model in the range that's his That's his ambition That's good. Your name is matt green. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you have to play goblins and That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah I guess, um, he's got a lot of drops, doesn't he here actually 80 Okay, close. It feels more than that. Well, and now it's that's fairly low for goblins. Yeah I'd expect 23 24. I see I'm trying to think I see with um Yeah, so typically the list I was playing practicing with martin against was four hordes of rubble two two mince and mobs Uh, I'm a big fan of the goblin blaster I think actually You know being able to shoot a little bit. Although it's not that great. Oh, it's so much nicer now too. Yeah That's quite handy quite like that the bang it obviously to think only two wing it You know, I like to have friends at the end of a game. Sure Um So, um Yeah, a couple of more pup launches More pup launches are quite good because they've got no christian strength or piercing rather, but at least They're good against kind of troops and things like that.  Oh, yeah, that'd be good. Yeah we well, that's fine to talk about we did talk about sort of You know a little bit like taking the vanguard rules Uh, and actually kind of using them to do Actually 28 mil Like dog fights and things like that. Sure. Yeah, that'd be quite cool. Actually So steven pierce. I think steven. Unfortunately, I think he had to drop out at the last minute Uh, he was meant to be a mats team. So he's clearly cheering him on Well, that's a that's a good thing I I play with the models that I like and sometimes that means you have a less effective list But you're still having more enjoyment. Yeah, you're having more fun playing with what you want to have Yeah, well, he said he's particularly enjoyed my because michael's one of his favorite models So he's he's quite pleased that he's kept him alive I I can't do the spam thing. I can't I can't just duplicate units. I love having variety in my list and sometimes it's less effective, but So it looks like at the minute they're all just setting up in the middle, which is good for our live stream It's almost like that. It is uh, they've been considerate there So face starts there's more clash of kings spoilers. Oh, we've been giving a few out today Yeah, yeah, we've we've been giving out a few. Um I guess what I can say is flea bag riders, you know, currently not in not getting a lot of love personally from me They're getting a little bit of a boost. Sure You when you look at armies, some of them Didn't need the help that you might expect and we wanted to make it a You know, no nerf book. So how do you how do you do that? Yes? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I suppose it's looking at You know, and I will say this hand on heart goblins probably don't need a boost Right. Yeah, but I think actually so the majority of the unit's fine Like we're talking about the rabble is point for point good for unlocks Good for sort of getting in the way and objectives things like that very handy But the rest of the list is is okay. And I think it was mainly the flea bag riders You know, I don't really see them a lot Yeah, the the effectiveness of the other things in the goblin list funnel you into that kind of a build Yeah, where you're taking wing it's after wing it after wing it and then war engines Yeah, just going for that route because it works. Yeah And the way to balance that list more is to bring up the other things. Yeah more variety Yeah, and I think that'll be interesting to see I think face starts having more focus on combined arms will be less spam I mean, yeah, I mean totally and I think the formations helped with that. We talked a little bit about formations Um, and actually well the goblin one is a flea bag based formation. Yeah, so again just encouraging those people to To get them on the table Let's be a six for Jan Possibly explaining why it's taking so long to set up could be So, although even from this sort of distance Jan's army's looking really nice. They really actually yeah, we'll um Uh, oh, yeah, actually Paul Roberts. It could be a spy here Paul's here watching cheering on Matt will have to be very careful And luckily we're behind aren't we? There's a slight delay. There's a slight delay. Yeah We'll have to make sure he hasn't got the war roller six That's how you win there you go Uh, but matt's army is actually really nice really nice painted So we will have we'll be taking pictures of all the armies tomorrow We'll be going round because we've got their painting judging as well. That's always a good time So they're gonna be quick. They're gonna need to be quick here. Yeah, they've spent 40 minutes Quite relaxed getting set up Okay, Janice is straight down there with I guess that will be uh, Shakira. Will it either Shakira or the reaper? Yeah hero Wow, that's quick soldier That is quick because you can get down there Speed 10. I mean, I might I might just have a quick look as if matt's good I guess if matt's turned around to face that then that's uh, if not, he's uh Janice has been quite canny there canny old janice She's got those lightning bolts to throw out though and that's gonna You know early damage that she can put I'm not sure what I would target. I think uh Those low nerve units, you know things like the rabble the sharp sticks They they make juicy targets for the lightning bolts just because they're easy to pick up It's like do you try to do that or you try to waver the trolls? Uh, and those, you know hardcore units, but Lightning bolts are so good at picking up chaff Uh, the thing about the mind screech is that it can see over almost, you know, everything on the table And and pick things out and that that's dangerous in itself Yeah, paul, you've got the right idea by being outside We're in a tiny room upstairs where there is no airflow whatsoever Slave shop labor. I'm gonna ride against Ronnie So Jan's doing some quick measurements probably marking where Certain ranges are based on the dye that she's putting down So what um Well, you can't see now. Luckily most for once most of the actions this side of the camera This side of the the windmill the house rather Uh, she's got both of the heroes the reaper And Shakira have both sprinted down that side. Okay Wherever whenever. Yeah, I think they're meant to be together. Yeah, there is a wood What you can't quite see there is a wood down there Where matt's got uh, some of his think it might be the sharp sticks so, um Yeah, they're not quite they're not quite unopposed down there You missed my Shakira reference of them said, uh, sorry And now I do get it now It's been a long day. It's okay. Now. I see Paul says he's in the car park. No spying Yeah, I said that was that was smart. I mean, although that that that is exactly what a spy would say correct It's if James Bond was watching this game. Yeah, he'd be like, oh, I'm outside I imagine Those are her doppelgangers Yeah, so how does it double that because doppelgangers a bit of an odd unit aren't they they're very odd.  So it's it's pretty interesting in that sense I mean against goblins. That's a hindrance. It is and and that's why I think that she's Thought it was worthy to to pay for the blessing of the gods and burn strength because that just makes them more effective Right, you know what they would be at base. Yeah So what did they do what does blessing in the gods do it's it's elite So it allows you to reroll ones to hit. Okay, right That's quite nice. I've never tried. I've never even realized It's it's really good on units that have a high volume of attacks. Yeah. So like the mincer mob, you know, that's a good Target, you've got my cogs. Yeah, that's that and that was 20 points. It's not too expensive really, is it either? It's it's more expensive for The the bigger units that's our regiments style units Okay, so a mincer mob is a regiment. Yeah, so it's still 20 still 30 but that's quite good because You've got the fours Yeah, they can go either way obviously so actually having an extra reroll on those is pretty good So jan is taking the martin approach of tactics. Just get everything going forward. Just go forward. Yeah Yeah, we were talking about again. We're tactics and martin was saying his big problem is he always wants to try and win turn one Which you can't really do It's not dread ball. You can't know or turn one as much as you might like to Oh, okay Okay So, yeah, we've got a uh, so we've got a keynote where matt gilbert will be talking about what's coming up for kings of war sadly, that's all top secret Can't share it on the stream. No, we can't share that and uh Yeah, we'll see. I'm sure some stuff will leak out. Yeah Yeah And uh, and then we've got probably I'd say the most anticipated element of the evening Is my quiz Yeah I've heard about this quiz. Yeah, it's uh, particularly devious this year. Okay There's uh for those In the uk because I don't think this quiz show has made it over to america book You've got uh only connect which is probably one of the hardest quiz shows Uh in the uk Yeah, so you have to find a random There'll be uh four clues and you have to find out what What's the thing that connects them? Okay Um, but the it can be anything So there is a kings of war themed only connects later on tonight So the color green You would you would probably think, you know, yeah orks. Yeah. Yeah goblins. Yeah, so it could be a way. It'd have to be Orks Yeah, it has to be. Yeah, you'd have to do it like that. But anyway, so we've got that coming up later on So, uh, I'm sure that will probably drive most people home. Did you get my Shakira joke? Yeah So, uh, this is obviously turn one So matt and janis are gonna have to pick up their pace a little bit Because this round is meant to finish at six They can do it. I believe. Yeah. Yeah As long as they flip the tokens Yeah, if I turn three then how if the game ends there, that's fine. Yeah, fine See we're going to roll some dice I imagine she's shooting some mind screeches that are not on camera. Yeah Yeah, actually, sorry. I missed uh I did go over and check So guess what in this scenario child She sort of hold off until the It's a weird one. Yeah, you gotta know until the objectives are there or do you you're supposed to know which ones yours are But it's very easy to forget. Yeah, put the two there or there. Okay So as long as you've kept track of what your objectives are, right? So you can But I guess okay, so that's where the bluffing element comes in because if it looks like you're Going Like really full on to get that the other person will think okay. That's the two-pointer right actually that could be the zero points Yeah Yeah, it's really fun. Yeah, you could you could bluff someone into deploying A lot of their army onto a flank and then you just sort of turn off and Go somewhere out particularly with a Flying unit or something like that This will be interesting this on that to see how some of the other armies get on as well. Absolutely This one is an advantage for fast armies to be able to get to where they need to be Because they can take their time attacking other units and then yeah towards the end of the game Just make a move to whatever objective they need to have so I guess obviously Matt Matt's flea bag riders speak 10. Yeah, they're gonna be good at grabbing those objectives last minute and Obviously got Well, she care it. Yeah, her two characters really can't do anything about it. No No, except the enthrall could pull somebody. Yeah, I suppose. Yeah She's got the top of the turn though, so it doesn't help as much No, when you've got the bottom of the turn at the end of the game Yeah That's interesting. So would you in this scenario would you choose to go? Second, I probably would yes, that's interesting. Yeah, it's rare that you would want to go second Yeah, yeah, it depends on the matchup. Yeah, if I was playing Jan's army, I would want to be going second. Okay She's got some nerve tests going on Yeah, because typically, you know Yeah, normally you want to go round one particularly for me because I need to get all my shooting away And hope for the best although actually I was listening to the counter charge Of course, I can't remember the name of the Gentleman being remember George Well about goblins and he was saying that either bang it for example. He quite likes going second Boss by that time the army's moved closer towards you. Sure the enemy. So actually you probably can your second turn You can get some shots off whereas if you've gone first the bank is just moving towards him. So There are some advantages. Uh, it's It's rarer though did not see someone take take the first yeah, yeah Just because you get to dictate the board someone. Yes. Yeah, you do get to boss it yes, that would be So now we've got matt and matt's turn What we should make a note of it again carl. Who's so efficient last time? I think I can remember this time. Okay Maybe a bit of a slower pace So matt is on the king of hearts team Uh, yeah, they do the the charity, right? Yeah. Yeah, they do a lot. I see so that I mean Fair play to to matt and the king of hearts crew They've you know gone from no community down kind of where they are down south So actually now, you know, we're seeing that the south is one of the fastest growing in the uk. Anyway, the fastest growing Kind of communities for it's great. Which is really great. You know, it's Then there's and what's good is you walk outside today. There's a lot of new faces Obviously some of the faces we recognize But um, yeah, it shows us a lot of scenes growing Or I talked to several players that they This is this is all new to them. Yeah, tournaments are new to them. There were a few people that haven't even played in third edition Yeah So, I mean that's exciting. There was there was a pair of guys that came up and said Uh, they'd watched my videos and that's how they got into the game and now this is their first tournament Yeah, yeah, wow, they they stuck around Yeah, no, it's no, that's great. And I think that shows You know, it is recruiting Because it's it it's clearly a harder game to recruit into than something like dead zone because you need to pay 100 miniatures the barrier to entry is just so much bigger with any kind of mass battle fantasy It's there's so much you have to have But the good thing is is that you can practice with blank bases. Yeah, and get a feel for it Yeah, yeah, and in some small point kings or war games are some of the most fun. I've ever had. Yeah There's 750 point games are just amazing. Yeah. Yeah. No, I agree actually it's um And I think as well when you finish there's there's probably nothing more satisfying in Gaming than seeing your army full on sure you do not all together and and because I don't know about you, but it sort of comes together It seems to go really slowly, but then when it does all come together, it's quite quick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah We've got several stores in the u.s. That are doing slow grow leagues and I think that those are amazing Opportunities for people to to join in yeah, select slowly make it a reasonable thing There's a war room hobbies in Tennessee that is doing that with yeah a huge group That they've gotten really big and I always encourage people to try and start that at your local game store if you can Yeah, because it's it's a really good way to do it Yeah, we've seen a lot. I think it's I better get the store right agree before I start On again, they've fairly fairly new for their community, but they've got they've got a really good growing community for the king to war and Firefight as well. They're starting to get into that. Yeah, this is great. I would love to play firefight I need somebody to play with me. Oh, it's good. Yeah, but um So, yeah, firefight is a really interesting one. Actually, I think that's Rather than the old, you know version of firefight, which we went from warpath down to firefight This one's all going from dead zone up. Yeah In fact andy sharps just to the playtester group is just part of a new set of new updated rules today and yeah, it's It's playing really nice. Actually. I think the good thing is it's It sort of feels immediately quite natural to play it Sure, particularly if you play dead zone, you're familiar with the terminology It uses d8s, which you're comfortable with. Yep There's no exploding eight. So that's that that just proved to be slightly too swinging too much. Yeah It's a matter of being very careful about His placement. Yeah So jan, her first game was against den king. Yes, she Wisely or unwisely challenged him All right, she did originally get it out of the way. Yeah, I suppose. I suppose. Yeah. Yeah get out. Yeah start the game get out of the way but um, yeah, so First game gets done king I don't think she played in the second Yeah, I think she's originally challenged nick williams, but then swapped it to death. There are some real strategies to Tournament playing. Yeah, the people think about and and you know, you hear the submarine approach and that's something that uh I think sometime is is is said jokingly. Yeah, I'm just gonna submarine back to the top But then other times it has real merit Yeah So it looks like you've got uh, most of the kings of hearts crew watching this one cheering on map Yeah, it's sort of sort of cautiously moving forward Again, maybe they're just waiting like we say waiting for those loot tokens to be flipped over and see what's there I think that they are just Pacing out their charge distances at this point So it looks like he's got Most of the trolls all in the middle He's got the slasher near the house top there. Yeah, he's maybe just making sure he can still shoot Just so you know, and we've obviously we talked in the last game actually about the this The hills in deployment zone people are more than welcome to move them, but no one's actually moved them yet. So He put his big rock throwers in the forest though. So He's got one at the bottom. Has any there on the hill Is that the forest? I'm not sure It could just be difficult terrain Because the bottom I realize if I if I move this blind this panel out the way I can see the table All day, I could have been looking out the room That lower right is definitely a forest No, it's just slightly too far the old bendy measure. Yeah It's what I say Matt is on the king of hearts team Janice on shape troll dojo Yeah, she's she's she's she's fancied up her actual list here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So, uh Janice and Bob both do a lot of tournaments Uh, up sort of around element games that sort of way. So, uh, I think they had one Is it last week or the week before they had speed kings of war So I think that was similar to what you were saying earlier small games. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I think we're doing something similar at HQ in a next year We're going to do the clocks of war thing which is 25 minutes 20 minutes 15 every round it goes down. Yeah Yeah, I think we'll do two 25s two 20s and 115 and that 15 one is Yeah, again in five games in the days Although it's not locked. You're not playing for long. It's Mentally exhausting. You just gotta go quick. Yeah. Yeah, I think it's a good practice tool If you don't go into it and say I have to win this tournament. Yeah, it's just a fun silly tournament really I I want to see more of that. I want to see more Either fluff based tournaments. Yeah Yeah, they aren't just pure competitive. Uh, I I know at one point Uh, Rob Finnoff was talking about doing something like that down Where we combined armada, vanguard And just and really you broke it up into teams and like for one game You'd go play that system and then you'd rotate and move over Things like that can just be so much fun and in these systems have the potential for that You just gotta have people that organize the event to happen because you can even have things like say with Say like armada where if you get a boarding action Someone else that'd be really complicated But someone else could actually play that boarding action rather than you rolling for it in armada You just fight it out. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be cool Yeah, so I think it's you know to have all the I mean, obviously I think dungeon saga Is that did we do that? I can't remember but the idea was you'd go from dungeon saga to vanguard All these potentially create these characters All right, that'd be quite fun So Matt looks like he's been putting a little bit of damage on Some of the units that's the doppelgangers we think isn't it the front of him when I've looked actually I believe so It could be the butchers. Yeah So a bit of shooting. I think he's done a Bit more shooting with the rock lobbers There was a big rock throwers I asked him to make some some gestured hand movement. Oh, okay. Oh good. So they they're gonna tell us no. Yes That's what we want If they remember. Yeah Two hits two wounds It could start indicating wounds. We said what we should do is give the top table A list of hand signals hand gestures to do Yeah, I guess he's gonna struggle because you know that with the rock throwers. Yeah, because they're hitting on sixes all of a sudden that I mean again It's interesting actually playing against because Martin was going to bring Ratkin to the event and then eventually brought nice talkers, but um Yeah, with the Ratkin You can have some really nasty turns of shooting, you know, if you get them all off. Yeah, but all of a sudden I mean, I played against them.  Yeah, so it sort of just helps to have those kind of factions be thrown in the list I guess you've got a bit of lightning bolt spam. So that's what spell wards interesting for the halflings. Yeah You can still shoot them down. It's just yeah I think it's obviously aeronauts not having an edge grenade is not having spell wards But it's quite clever as well. Yeah Because jan did play dan this morning and she had a lot of lightning bolts to throw at him Yeah, I think uh, so talking to someone afterwards. They said that um She just had one turn. I think early on We're everything missed everything missed and I think that again like we were talking about the game that don and elia you only need that one round and All of a sudden if you're playing against a good player, they'll take the advantage of that and make you suffer You can't call it a mistake. No, no, but it's still punishing. Here's the minescreen. Do you want them coming out of the woods? It's simply you a twilight. You're a twilight can play a kyle, right? That's what I've been focusing on in third edition so far. So you're disappointed by the lack of any one twilight can Steve hilltree. Steve. Yeah, brother in arms. Steve and I have talked quite a bit about him. So yeah, it's helpful I asked him how he was doing He's uh He's one-in-one. I think so far It's it's an army. I find that I have to be really locked in when I'm playing it. Yeah, you can't sort of fall asleep at the wheel. No, you really got to be locked in and I still even at that have finished pretty much Middle of the pack. Yeah, yeah with them. Um, we're undead. I was Top 10 every time I played. Yeah You know, so it's it is a little bit of play style because I do have a bit of martin in me But yeah, yeah, yeah, twilight can are not that way Now They you know with the clash of kings changes. I think that that combined arms forces Which is what they do best really the way that they're designed A little bit of shooting a little bit of combat and it's sort of synergy that goes into it Uh, I think that that's Going to improve for them quite a bit. Okay, that'll be interesting. Yeah One of my favorite units the the glade stalkers Uh, the you know, we we looked at The theme list I talked about this earlier in the day the Elf glade stalkers were the masterless unit and then the sylvan kin and the twilight kin were just kind of hand-me-downs Yeah, that same version But a goal of the clash of kings book was to to differentiate the armies a little bit more Everything felt a little bit samey. Yeah. Yeah, I know I get that and how do you make it more unique? So we talked about rules to set them apart Uh, what would the twilight kin glade stalkers have that would make them more twilight kin? Yeah. Yeah made them more evil Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's a combined arms unit. It's a very expensive unit For what they do but they have a ton of rules. Yeah, a lot of times they have scout a lot of times they have pathfinder It's a similar unit type all across the game. Yeah, there's the the bass laying the sisterhood scouts Um, the dwarf sharps or not sharp shooters, but the rangers. Yeah. Yeah So all very similar sort of unit type that exists and all of them got a little bit of attention To help make them Fit the flavor of their army. Yeah, I guess that's what you want. You don't yeah You want the rangers to feel very different to something else, don't you? Yeah, they said The the the twilight kin one is is my favorite though. It was my idea though. So that's that's why that's what your favorite Can I share it? Yeah, sure. I think that they're talking about it on a podcast that maybe is releasing fairly soon too So, okay, that's fine. It's all right. You're all right Kyle So Like I said, we want to differentiate the units the the twilight kin option They're going from melee four to melee three. Okay, they've got the range attacks, but they've they've lost Steady aim, so when they move and shoot there's now a penalty to it. Yeah. Yeah, we're before they didn't have it So clearly those two changes you can say they're more melee focused. Yeah They've also got something called dream slayer venom Which is a new rule unique to that unit where in combat they damage everything on a four plus regardless of their defense nasty, so obviously twilight kin are very secretive and and they use venom in the in the lower in the background So, yeah makes sense. They would cover their blades in yeah, and and so if you're fighting against zombies They're a defense too. You're gonna wound them on fours. Yeah. Yeah, because the point is Yeah, it's fours no matter what yeah, but against those logs that we talked about earlier. Yeah, it's fours also so It gives you kind of an advantage because shooting can be effective against lower defenses Yeah, and and obviously you'd want to shoot the targets that have low defenses and and attacking and melee with the venom Uh, but the loss of steady aim on them is a big punish So all of a sudden hitting on fives is is a big deal for them. So small amount of attacks 10 and 12 attacks Uh It's it's not great. Yeah, so No, that's interesting to see like I say to to give it and that's you know from what I've seen You know, there are a lot of flavory sort of changes in the book as well. So And in the silwing kin one's completely different. Yeah. Yeah It's good stuff So it looks like janis is kind of moving everything forward obviously you've got the heroes at the top of the picture there There's like some butchers going around that way as well at the top of the picture going around that windmill That's not the windmill. It's the house mine screeds mine screeds That mine screeds has been moved about quite a bit actually that one. I think she maybe just realized that yeah, so Now it seems to me now unless jan knows obviously that her counters are worthless Seems a bit like they've forgotten the counters. I don't know Because you've got one she's moved past few of them there. Yeah Yeah, you've got one right at the back now obviously she's placed that one and she knows that's a zero but it could be just incredibly cunning because uh Mine screeds unit strength one so she could fly over and grab that and that could be the two points That's definitely the advantage that the mine screeds just give in this game And things like the wing it as well. The wing is quite good. Yeah. Yeah Probably as I always make the mistake Accidentally my wing it's always ends up in combat. I'm really useless. I forget to move it and then it just ends up getting charged I think actually by Shakira last time I played Martin because that's why I'm still bitter about that. I understand thanks for telling him Kyle Gotta spread the love so tomorrow if you're Joining us on sunday We've got an early start So you need to set your alarms for 9 15 So an early early one that one 9 15 that will be invade tomorrow So relatively simple one for a sunday morning 4 15 for you us.  I would actually wake up and be like i'm gonna watch this. Yeah on a sunday Oh, so, uh Oh, right. Matt Gilbert's joined in now. So this is weird. I'm watching it live on the stream and different things are happening So, yeah, we're uh, we're about 30 So the actual game is delayed by about 15 minutes, uh, but the um The actual stream is about 30 seconds So that's the mistake we were making earlier on when I was watching the youtube on and trying to comment on that Commentating that so that must have been really confusing for people. We need to keep remembering to watch the uh The actual stream with the uh the stream that we're seeing so it was like Matt now Matt's turn was like Matt's turn two I think he just said i'm going to kill that unit in particular It's not that violent Matt. I don't think he would say It's dead. I would say the slash is charging in. Yeah, that guy is officially So let's have a look at the slasher. What's it gonna do? Well in a minute, obviously uh attacks eight hitting on threes And actually It's just it's 210 points. It just seems like it's a lot of points You're sinking a lot into that one for for eight attacks Christian 10th two strider So I think that's on the receiving end of one the changes, isn't it if I remember rightly the uh, yeah, it's getting some of those uh Slayer rampage. Yeah, I think he's a tax girl if I remember rightly I could have made that up I I think they do let's assume it is That's just not I only looked at the what the changes were for the goblins in the book But I think that's good because that's a such a nice model you want to see that on the table Oh, so interestingly we think there it can't be your phone that appears Every time I pull it out. That's what the phone that is. Yeah I think it might be so we're interested. We've got so sorry if you're losing the footage. It's because of Kyle's phone weirdly which magically interrupts the uh The feed I was going to find the slasher here So it looked like Matt was looking at the uh, I think you're trying to charge through the trolls where they got stuck on the building Unfortunately those buildings don't move. It's a shame. No Maybe this should be a real way you could just smash through buildings The giants can just let you know destroy a building smash through it That'd make it interesting. We could really terrain heavy tables and this is like, no, no, no I'm just gonna get rid of this Yeah, so the goblin slasher I thought it was so it goes attacks to 10 Look at an aura. Yeah Melody or a rampage. Wow aura rampage Tasty for the for the beast keyword. Oh, so beast. That'll be more beasts. Yeah We bag riders. We bag riders. Oh, it's almost like we were talking the we bag riders needed a boost And what does one major what is rampage is you get a bonus against certain Yeah, certain unit types. Okay Interesting Going on a rampage So come on get that The mincer mob in my my problem is I always tend to use my mincer mobs. It's my second line And I'm never sure if that's good or not. I wonder if I should be a bit more aggressive with them like matt's been there So mincer mobs Uh, you get d6 plus 21 attacks So what's that go? Let's go now. I'm not gonna have a look to see what that's gone into Or two regiments of scarecrows isn't so I think that must have gone into Matt's committing quite a bit here Yeah, he's going for it. He's seen the time. Yeah, he's like I'm gonna do this He's got a combat army. It makes sense Rob's giving the thumbs up thumbs down I'm not sure what that's representing Could be on if james asked for another beer Yeah, there are a lot of messy engagements there Yes, I'm Matt's doing some work this round. He's uh, so off the camera. Well, you might be able to see Um on the overhead one and again, we will look at that tomorrow Uh is the mag ones are charged into a mine screets. There's a mine speech over there. Ah In the middle, you've got the slasher is charged into doppelgangers the um Mincer mob and he's charging some scarecrows and some trolls are charging some scarecrows as well Okay, boom alpha strike trolls should pick up the scarecrows I would think never rely on 12 trolls always disappoint me only 14 nerve I mean, they're gonna do maybe six ones. Yeah Yeah So they need an eight It's not gonna happen. No, never rely on the trolls Is it one a piece? They're not double charged Uh, no, they're not double charged. There's nothing as far as I can see. I don't think anything's double charged Actually, no, sorry, the slasher is charged into one of the horrors Oh, okay. Yeah, so not um, what potential does he have to overrun? What's behind the horror? That's the question. There's more horrors. The horrors are all like in a line. Oh goodness She she she could potentially lose lose all of them. That would be the slasher Yeah, I think they were all sort of in a line and again slightly behind each other. Oh goodness See you come multiple multiple over. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, right That would be Devastating. Yeah. Yeah. It almost be like he's going on a rampage. Yeah. Wow Hey, someone should do a rule for that.  Yeah, I have to agree that uh Whenever I need the trolls to do work. They're just like, oh What are you doing? I will hit you with my stone And then just don't do anything else Uh, that's exactly what I would expect out of you.  Yeah, I think I mean I did a few For vanguard and mine were yeah mostly black, but then incredibly bright like tentacles. Yeah, it's yeah This funny, isn't it that they're meant to be? Yeah it's been like what Oh, there's what there's I think it's the uh In overdrive it's like different I guess which was you've got there a character that was previously called shadow No, he ended up because he's called stealth now. He's called shadow sent it off to angel the paint And actually we got the uh the art from the artist and he'd done it like really white and bright and slight slightly pink We were like, okay. Well, that's still fine. And then angel painted it bright pink And we're like, yeah, shadow doesn't really suit the name there But we said we've given him, you know the backstory is that they he got a he was called shadow when he was a security guard For the chamois starhawks and then got a lovely paint job when he actually went into the arena So I told uh matt and uh jan to give us a thumbs up when a nerve test goes well And uh a thumbs down when a nerve test goes badly I thought that was whether or not she was going to ask for another beer Like beer me. Yes. Yeah Yeah, unfortunately, we haven't got table service for jan to order more beers When I go to tournaments in the us, that's typically what they have me do You're the beer Go run and get me this IPA In fact, martin or big dog on the microphone. He could on the walkie-talkie. He could have been doing that for us. Yeah We've missed a trick there kyle I'm really really curious to see how the Horror situation is going to go That's that's fun to me. Yeah, I think I'm pretty sure when I went over to check that it was the slasher was They were in a line But all in a line slightly behind each other Yeah, he could because he's Because they were all less than it so even if he gets a one He's still gonna overrun if they're that close then. Yes, let me just go. Let me check. I haven't made that up, but um It's a very dangerous thing to do if you set it up that way I'm excited to see how this is gonna go I saw I saw a test but no thumbs up or thumbs down there. We got a thumbs up It's a precarious thing because you don't want to give away what someone can do No, no, no. So, uh, yeah, those horrors are lined up Okay, that is a horror show. Yeah So what the chances so again three eight attacks hitting on threes Five or six And then what's the what's the horrors got they've got very low defense and very low nerve. Uh, so defense three nerve 11 13 The nerve is actually that's actually pretty respectful. Yeah, that's high for a caster. So Actually, it's sort of like 9 11, isn't it really for That's the one we want to see come on map So I'm not sure how any of the other tables are getting on in the minute We've got an hour left in this game. Well, this is this is a mess There is a whole bunch of combat right now. Kyle's got rules questions. So Kyle You'll never know how the horrors get on. I might just walk right over there as soon as I find out Okay The cars is gonna go and have a rule. So not bad. We've that's what that's six rules questions today This isn't too bad Okay, so it looks like Uh, Stephen was asking what the clock times are like. So Jan's got 36 No, I don't know if she had 36 minutes. She's got 36 minutes left. I think it's probably got 36 minutes left So Jan's had another beer delivered Okay, so when uh, I think Kyle's gonna kind of keep an eye on what's going on with those horrors So again, we're you know, we've had a really good day here at firestorm if you haven't been to firestorm in Cardiff fantastic new venue. They've recently moved Uh, so we've got the upstairs all the upstairs and a bit of the downstairs as well So, uh, yeah, very very nice Okay, so that's one horror gone Come on So will he Overrun into the what's an epiaz over Okay, no interesting I assume he would have I I think it looked like he'd overrun. So maybe not maybe not maybe I'm wrong So the slasher has taken out one of the horrors Okay, so it looks like he did he did overrun But didn't put any didn't put enough wounds on the other horror So not quite the spectacular Horror destruction that we thought was gonna happen Now he might be rolling This looks like the mincer mob Against the doppelgangers That is it. So again hitting on Fools, I don't know if it's hindered. So it looked like he took out one horror overrun, but didn't take out the next Well, it could have been fun. Yeah. Yeah So this was like the mob So, uh See Matt's been good.  He's doing them. I thought he was being good and putting his dice so this was the Well, that's good. So he's got different dice for his nerve checks depending upon Whether it's the first or the second roll I think they're just working out to the Oh mincer mob didn't take out the doppelgangers Hmm That's interesting They hit the wall Uh, okay. So they were going over the wall. Yeah, okay. So that takes him a four to five four to five losing thunderous Yeah, that's that's a big difference. Yeah. Yeah That's the problem with them, you know, they They're good if you can that's a very good unit for the doppelgangers to use their ability on. Oh, of course. Yeah Now, yeah, I think he's child. I think he's charging to doppelgangers. I might have to go and have a look But uh, yeah, I think he does Oh, they're wavered though. That looks a bit So you might have got some respite there saving grace. Yeah So this one is all bunched up quite a lot in the middle. There is some obviously action slightly off-screen where you can't see which is the Mago The magons are like the mind screeches So this is turn Two Sounds right. Yeah, okay. So the end of the next turn will flip over the counters and then we'll see what's going on So that's uh someone coming in to ask another question How's the chat going? Matt's currently chatting to Matt Gilbert. He should be organising the tournament. It was too busy chatting to me Oh, I think it's probably because he's finished his presentation of the keynote. Ah, yeah I think in there previously he was secretly working on things that we're going to reveal tonight So it looks like some Matt's Had some maybe looks like he had a few nerve checks that haven't gone his way here Looks like he's rolled for them had to obviously you've got the uh Mind thirst where they steal all the inspire. Oh, they were actually what inspiring is he's got he's got the The king I'm getting my list Mick. He's got the king with inspiring The troll brook now the troll bruiser. They've got inspiring troll on me, but that doesn't matter to the They can take it. Yeah, that's what goes He's got the magwa which is inspiring as well. And that's another change for clash of kings. It's very relevant Yeah, we've already talked about that so it's not new information The all the inspiring situations like that with the troll bruiser. He's just now inspiring. I think that's a I totally understand the thought behind it, you know that they're you know a troll bruiser would inspire the trolls I think you kind of got a bit difficulty there where it made them a bit They were a bit niche I suppose. Yeah, it's it allows you to Use the units that you want in support and and it's just it's In some instances it was messy and it doesn't make sense You just want inspiring so Trolls have done some work there. They've taken out the I think that's some scarecrows Okay They they they did what they're supposed to yeah But what they never do Then again, you'd hope defense three For the scare. That's what I said, you would hope They're nervous. Yeah, the nerve is the big thing there. Yeah, I think he's regenerating And his trolls are actually regenerating as well. This is unheard of these This is how trolls should play. This is a master class in trolls Roll better Yeah, I mean that's yeah get get good By elliott's dice. So Again, you've got a You've got a right at the bottom of the screen. You've got another objective now I assume that one was placed maybe by matt so perhaps he knows that's a zero Could be because he's got nothing really that can flip round and and get that one You've got one looks like Near the house It could have been by janin. She's just good waiting and going to fly over top of the house with the mind screech and land there playing mind games Yeah, mind screech games. Yeah Because that's exactly what I want. Yeah Beat everything to come in then fly behind it. Yeah These guys just want to have a fight. Yeah, I think it's yeah, I think it's almost like the objectives Don't have to be there Unless they're both unless they're fooling us too could be We're about to get surprised when we're at box by box So this will be Jan's turn three So we will reveal the When we've got the big reveal of the counters, I'll go and tell tell you what they all are Because when you so when you pick them up, you don't reveal them. It's only turn three. Yeah, that's what you know They are you don't know so there's a mad scramble. Yeah for the rest of the half of the game Yeah, yeah So again, you got I think jan's looking whether she can I think she'll be she's looking whether she could charge into the Trolls then With the butchers butchers be trolls My money's probably on the butchers there. I would take the butchers. Yes The trolls are more than likely going to get wavered. Yeah Oh, yeah, yeah, I think she was just checking them whether she could do it They say that's what you can see when john's when he was using that extra that Place on a base. Yeah useful that is because you don't have to worry about remembering where it went back to and things It had that nice Doorknob, whatever doorknob. Yeah, there was on it. It allowed you to just pivot it right on the center I think I see I looked at it. I want one of those. Yeah, I might make one just glue a ball. Yeah, what time is the reveal Oh the reveal. Well, we're not we won't be revealing anything on the live stream tonight. No, that will be for we're gonna have a Like a talk here, but then next week We will have plenty of information on the mantis vlog. So if you can't make it, don't worry You'll probably end up getting more information. We've got so much lined up There are a number of podcasts that are going to be on previews for people so counts charge started last week Yeah, obviously the classicings book went live for pre-order It's busy busy old time There's a lot going on So there's some in-depth discussions going on here now That's interesting So it looks like without us realizing that the bottom right corner bottom right corner there. That's max Regiment of flea bag riders. So he snuck down the edge there Now wouldn't that be clever if he's put that objective mark? Absolutely. Wow see there's us Thinking that these they've forgotten about the objective mark. I mean in either case he's got Jan's major units locked down and then That unit is now facing her rear. Yeah, so it's good no matter what. Yeah It's good. I hope so what they that's 14 attacks normally hitting on fours Thunder's charged one But vicious melee that's quite handy. And actually it's got the that the regiment is the one with the more pups as well I really like the more pups. I put mine everything everything I can What for for 10 points for six attacks? It's such good value You know, I mean, yes, you you don't want to get the story but putting them onto a horde of like goblins and things It's absolutely. Yeah, I'd want to do it If only there was a horde of luggage Oh, that would help tremendously wouldn't it? Even if it was just one. Yeah, just, you know the combat potential with that. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Oh, it's so appealing Yeah, yeah, that would be lovely. Hmm I'd immediately swap out my rabble for a horde of A horde of luggage. Yeah It's amazing Call them like, you know groggers lug lads lug lads lug lads genius idea.  I mean, it's again, it's usually actually with with the luggage it's Another unit I really I sort of see where I could you particularly true, you know, we were talking earlier on about 15 attacks Yeah, you give them the more pups. That's 21 attacks that first attack But just imagine how many you could have in a horde. Yeah But um, they just they just keep getting squeezed out. But I guess actually, yeah a horde would um Would certainly make its way. I think into the army. Yeah, that's what you've got Brutal on them. I think brutal. Yeah wild charge Because you don't want yeah hitting on falls. Yeah, I mean it's all it's all the sexy stuff. Yeah Spoiler. Well, I can't possibly comment if that's a spoiler. I don't have to read into how excited I am I mean, I I think he's a play tester. So, okay, he may know. Okay Okay, so someone's just falling off that wall. Oh, no, I see It's a damage counter Let's see preferred method for damage counters come on. I just use different colored dice Yeah, but I've seen a lot of effective things. I've seen like the so encounters Oh, yeah, you have seen quite a few of those dials and things that that people use Yeah, I got some dials recently from TT combat. I think it was they're nice good They only go up to 15 but in all fairness if you're at 15 attack if you're at 15 You're probably gonna get wiped out anyway. So seen some d20s. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just can never find the number I'm sorry. Yeah, that's the thing and that's what I like about the dial is you you can pretty quickly do it I did have a system at one point which used little tiny Single lego bricks So it was green for one yellow for five red for 10 A friend of mine, uh, john carter had some cards printed Oh, yeah, the local car or local club that is just Uh, tiny tiny little cards and say one wound two wound three wound. Okay. Yeah, that's clever. Yeah I've seen dry erase, you know people Oh, yeah Yeah, it's interesting. I see when you come to events you get quite good You get sounds silly, but you get good ideas about that kind of stuff We use the stairs quite a bit. Have you seen those? No, no So it's typically like an mdf or a 3d print staircase That allows you to have a unit be on a hill on one side. Normally when they'd be falling over Yeah, yeah, put the stair up and they just sit on the whatever step to make them nice and even There's so many amazing widgets and yeah tools. Uh, I've seen some players sell and make The neoprene mats that are three inch bubbles for objectives. Okay. You just put it down and if you're touching that mat then you're Yeah, that's clever. Yeah You get the mats by mars which have the deployment zone Yeah marked into them on the mat Okay, so it looks like uh, it's john's turn for a bit of combat now So what time we got a lot of moving to do no no Let's count in the dice out I may have wanted to wind blast back the uh Riders that are creeping up on me. Yeah Yeah, I don't think Now either she's Not worried about them this turn. I mean, well then again what they got 20 20 inches on the charge probably uh very few things in the game that can uh top that without some sort of wild charge or brew a haste Got that'd be nice. He's got the meat of madness on him too. So 21 inches. Yeah, 21 inches I was about I was about sexy. Oh if you put the yeah, yeah, that's pretty tasty actually that This looks like a nerve check Oh, that must be on the He hasn't There we go. Yeah, he's taking something off Oh, no, I think that's uh That's magua and joss. It's his favorite. That's his favorite. Yeah, that's indicating there. I think that indicated gone Oh dear matt will be that's the first time magua has died today Magua one of the characters in a a fantastic goblin book that's upcoming Uh, hopefully soonish by winter talented talented. I wouldn't say talented. I'd say uh Just obsessed with goblins. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's a talent in itself. Yeah. Yeah Well, I've got lockdown to thank for that because I certainly wouldn't have had time to write it if we hadn't been in lockdown Okay, so magua's gone. I think that that can't be the first unit. I think jan's taken off I think she might have taken off some other ones Actually, what's the on the slasher? What's the defense five on the slasher? I guess it'd be interesting to see what the mincer mob does this time. So you'd think it would take out Those scarecrows really I think it's the scarecrows of the doppelgangers If the scarecrows if if the mincer is into doppelgangers. Yeah, it may be in trouble Oh, okay. Oh, yeah, of course you were saying yeah, okay, right. I'm not gonna have a look actually. Yeah Let me go have a look Scarecrows, it's okay. Yeah, you would think that it's okay at least She still can take advantage of the vicious aura from the horrors if they're within range I think they might be Yes, rob is pointing Lots of pointing Obviously for Matt that the doppelgangers are into the Into the mincer mob. He got the charge off, but they survived. Yeah Because they were hindered. I think he was hindered on the wall Interesting. He was just saying that Say magua, unfortunately, he charged him in Hoping he would take I didn't say what he was taking out hoping he would take something out Didn't And then of course what he did then was he gave inspiring to all those previous roles So when we're seeing because he ended up in the middle of everyone. Yeah And that's what helped two of the units survive Well So it's a good thing that he's gone. Yeah a lesson there against uh night stalkers is be careful when you're feeling inspiring Wow, this looks like a heck of a lot dice to drop on It's probably the doppelgangers Geez So they they mirror the rules exactly so they get the attack d6 plus 21 attacks. Yes The crushing strength. Yeah won't take the thunder But if it's the unit that has the crushing strength or the lower strength on it Yeah, yeah, it's also going to be able to use that in addition. Yeah No, that can't be that that's too many dice, isn't it? It could be reapers in the flank Oh, maybe maybe we can't quite see that because that would be 40 attacks. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that would be Could be on the slasher I'm gonna have a look actually. Let me have a look. Yeah That looks like a hell of a lot of dice Reapers are really the best Option for that to be in that case I think that's what it is only crushing one it's got vicious she did have the re-roll damage a re-roll hit It was a reapers into the slasher. Yeah, nice to get a flank Nerf test 40 attacks re-roll Slasher gone There's not much that survives that. No, no, that's an expensive unit there to lose. Isn't it that one? Sure 210 points That's why the reapers are so nice. They're just they're point efficient. Yeah Even with 5.9 and then she put on that's 140 points It just took off that that kind of unit now that turned around to the trolls Now the trolls should take care of them Yeah, you'd hope so again, you'd expect them to see but Trolls trolls will be trolls They're only 10 12 nerve though. It's the warmer has higher nerve than the reaper. Yeah It's gonna wound on two so pretty much everything that hits What one of the things I really don't like facing in them in a nice place is the terror the terror seems Good, I mean it's fast. It's expensive. It's fast. Yeah, speed seven and things like that Yeah, it's and regeneration as well. See that's what we're saying only on you. You've got to commit to get rid of it I've taken Allies from night stalkers into my twilight can just to take the terror. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, that's the sort big that's the big ones. I mean, uh, martin martin has two of them So you've really got to think about where you I really like them on a flank. I think that they're they're good To stick into terrain. Yeah, and They've got stride down in there. Yeah. Yeah, so They don't care night But if you charge them in terrain with the ensnare you're now minus two. Yeah in a lot of cases at least There's also going to be a new spell that's coming over from help ease rift. Yeah So it exists currently but it's coming into the game Called scorched earth. Okay that you can cast onto a unit that will strip Basically giving taking away its thunderous charge making it, you know, as if it were hindered. Yeah. Yeah, and you cannot use Your pathfinder strider. Okay. That's interesting. Yeah, so you can kind of guarantee it's going to happen People are so uh into offensive spells. Yeah, you know, they they want the lightning bolts. They want fireballs They want those sort of things And there are a lot of things that you can take items or spells that Can really help the game play. They aren't exactly calm, you know, like damaging spells So I think that was uh, that might have been the sharp six of the rabble that just got taken out there Shakira Yeah, well, I think you've got Shakira and the but the reaper Sold yeah, they're a nice little team going around Yeah That's a couple Could be yeah, we'll start that rumor. They used to be a couple back in before the finnullian mirror cracked I just want to see these tokens get flipped over So this must be okay, so Matt's go Really So could he not get into the no he could have he chose to do something else Ah, he's got a flank on him with another unit. So that's with the fleabags. That's the other fleabag. That's that's a good call Okay, so that's 14 attacks with the fleabags. Yeah, that's a good call. He's doing the right thing. Yeah They're now the effectiveness of a regiment. Yeah. Yeah, and they should absolutely pick up those reapers I think they came off the hill Uh, yes, they said they'll beat them to charge two Yeah, vicious melee as well, which is nice. That's two's rerolling ones. Yeah Should be easy peasy You know Because I mean it should be six damage. Yeah, it's a melee four And so the trolls must have gone into the butchers end of the bat. Yeah, I don't like that match up But I still think that that was the right call. Yeah reapers They're doing the twister on each other. I'm really curious to see what Matt's going to do with the fleabag regiment Uh, yeah, the one at the bottom of the picture now I assume it as he has moved it there.  This is oh, this is the mag ones. Ah So they're within they must be within three of that objective now looks like it I'm not going to interesting because they won the few Melee three in the army. The point means they just they dived quite quick So what they got they've got um speed six melee three 12 attacks Game in the flank flank. They're pretty good and then christian strength one nimble vicious melee wild charge d3 That's pretty that's pretty good. Yeah, they can be efficient to me 130 points. Yeah, the points are right on that It's you know, you look at like unit like centaurs. Yeah, that are I think 160 165 in that kind of price range They hit on threes 12 attacks for the regiment They have crush one and thunder one with pathfinder. Yeah, so even though it's not a lot of attacks They're they're very they're attacks that are going to get through. Yeah, so centaurs oftentimes do nine damage On 12 attacks. Yeah, that's that's a great thing Something that was a pretty pretty decent round for jammed. She got rid of some bits, but I guess we'll have to see now. This could be a bit of trouble. So I think maybe sure It's these middle rounds that really determine games. Yeah I think matt's got Matt's got a lot of things In a really good position. Yeah I think yeah, I think get the doppelgangers out of the way Sounds like they're pretty dangerous You've got that if it is that playback regiment at the bottom And you know that Shakira and the Reaper are going to Want to be in combat. They can't score. Yeah, they're just going to continue to fight things And that's because they've got no units done. Yeah. Yeah, right So I guess this scenario I don't think either of them is really that as benefit from the scenario particularly they're both So 30 minutes Yeah, 30 minutes Is that right? Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah, because we uh, we started slightly late. So we were meant to finish at six. I think Yeah, we were finishing at uh six a quarter past six Interesting to see how much they've got left on their clocks, actually Okay, so the flea bags have charged into a Mine screech Oh, hang on Maybe not. Maybe not. I think maybe Just check in possibly Look at that range. Yeah That's nasty, isn't it that I think it's just about that they can Yeah, he's opting Not take the charge Or he's charging something else So what's he what could that be he could be going into the no, he's looking at next turn I think he's just being patient because I mean that that position there Now threatens everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I don't think that the Mine screech charge was necessarily a bad one because how he reformed could have done a similar thing Uh, but now he's also Would he taken out on my screen to think or yeah, yeah, he should have. Yeah. Yeah So he's maybe looking at I think that's maybe healing up the uh Trolls possibly Okay, so he's got whizzes that's shooting into those uh night stalker heroes there Only two Another whizz. Oh, he's rolling for nerve I must have finished his shooting then Looks like both of them didn't do anything though He didn't give us the thumbs up No, so it almost looks like Jan has paused there. Hopefully the uh, there you go. We're good So this looks like the mince and mob, I guess I would assume. Yeah Not much does that much. Oh That's a bomb in the falls. Yeah, he just can't that's right Bruce sharpness is nice on that I mean, it's been quite a few you'd think that would take the doppelgangers out Well again I'll do it. There you go. That's the doppelganger's gone Bombing he's still got the wall there. I just need to get over but Well, you could try and go over the wall now. I suspect we're moving there. Would you've gone over the wall? Do you think then come forward a bit maybe? I no, I don't think I would have no. Oh, I suppose at least you stop and then someone's going to be hinted at They try correct. You you you have a defensive position. Yeah For someone charging you In a lot of instances at least. Yeah It is they are probably in range of Shakira. So okay He's got the trolls Oh, she can just fly over there. Can't she? Yeah Start causing some problems Hips don't lie I got that one. Yeah Yeah Oh, no, I was getting them. I was getting my songs competing Manita is Nelly Fatardo, isn't it? All right, don't pretend you don't know She-wolf is up Shakira She's got the the the walker walker. What was that the? I don't know the walker walker for Africa the pack See That was out there. Someone's having a So Matt did a few more nerve checks. So that is that's the scarecrow's gum. Yep. So now scarecrow's Doppelgangers reapers should be next reapers He's having a good turn. He's doing some He's doing some work There's a goblin player. This makes me happy pay the man. He's punching the clock. Yeah. Yeah He's doing now. He's uh They're gonna get fed tonight the goblin. Yeah So, I guess John could now start flying around grabbing some of the objectives. Maybe if we because I guess we're gonna find out what they are now Because she's got mine screech got two mine screeches left It's just those fleabags in the back Yeah, I would turn very defensive if I were her and try to take away angles. Yeah, her problem is is The banshee and the reaper Because they can go hunt down those mine screeches that are trying to hide and use windblaster lightning bolt to stay out of arcs Okay, so that's the reapers gone. So that was a good move. Yeah It'll be a really good move if those trolls crack off and take off the butchers I don't I don't think it's gonna happen. No, it's possible. It's just very unlikely the butchers. You've got their defense 5 16 18 I don't think that they have inspiring right now No, they're not stealing it. I don't think there's anyone in range based on so if you get a lucky roll Yeah, I mean that would Crack it crack. Let's not quite open. Yeah I mean jan I suppose what jan can do is You can start shooting them the fleabags because they're only nerve 12 14 That's what I would have been doing from the start. Yeah Yeah, get those mine screeches Because a few a few lightning bolts into them and they're gone pretty quick. I'm not sure what that was Maybe the troll damage.  Yeah, we'd got with everything He's had the potential a few times in this game. Yeah the horror is coming down and yeah hitting them like So he must have something into Yeah, I think we Can't see So else is he's got he's got the king so the king could be doing something somewhere. Oh, yeah Yeah, the king could be winning around I think she's okay. Yeah, he or she who knows Oh Just come around. She's just more a nice market. Yeah. It's okay. So the king's Right, so he shot Uh, one of the heroes and then charged him with the king on the other Okay, so they're gonna start flipping them over I think If they remember they probably have flipped over I mean we surely we can get it's a bit like uh star trek, isn't it? They may have flipped them already Have they? Is that gonna blow up? It's kind of hard to tell What is the oh here we go. Here we go. I'm gonna go table side He said one. Yeah Two He's well trained zero Can't see that one night. I think that was a two. Okay. I think That's a two. I see you can't see that. We're gonna have a look. I'll find out. Yeah Tell us rob lots of pointing Two two. Yep one one Nothing Okay Well done bourbon That's interesting because Matt really has good positioning on both of the twos and jan is not positioned to do well with them Quite a big difference there. Okay, so did you see my useful hunts? Yeah. Yeah So basically all jans in trouble. Oh, yeah Yeah, everything on one side was all fake. Yeah, so the bit that we can't really see Was all zeros Uh, but yeah But the two twos are there under matt's unit. So yeah, that's telling he must have known that he yeah, that'll be interesting I didn't ask. Yeah, that was sure Yeah, if matt as matt has played the blinder if Walker walker is fuzzy bear I swear it's a Shakira song I'm sure we've got plenty of Shakira fans out there. There was some kind of uh thing that she did it was like it was a uh a football song that she had done africa was in World cup and doing well and I don't know. We'll we'll we'll check that. She's got the whole like head bob going on. She's walka walka I swear, I think it is oh pac-man. Yeah The ear thing pac-man The ear thing pac-man. No, if you scratch on your ear, it makes the same sound I want to do it now Get you on the screen So if uh What's jan do what's jan gonna do here? I guess then again, I suppose She doesn't have to worry about the flea bugs in some ways. Does she because aren't they gonna sit there on the objective now? Or do you think matt will You know, it's not a loot token. You have to stay there and And take it. Yeah, I think knowing that they've got less than 30 minutes at this point. Yeah 13 minutes. Yeah Yeah, I think so. I think she's a quarter past six this round Got clash of kings orders coming in from our retailers as we speak They've obviously heard is on the stream pile. That's they like the changes She's got I think that's reapers there maybe charging through interesting what matt does with those flea bags because Well, she's sending the the reapers at him. Yeah, he's got to do something. Yeah He the reapers will win that I'd say that'll take them out if they get the charge. Yeah So the question is what can he do to? Ideally take them out without charging them with the flea background. Yeah. Yeah War trombone would be great in this situation. Yeah, Mr Man the war war trombone is something that hasn't made Many of my lists in third But I see it often in the states. It was excellent in second. Yes. Yeah, I think so but Yeah, just haven't really found space for it. I think weirdly even though obviously goblins are cheap You do when out of points. Yeah. Yeah You can't get everything in there.  Yeah. Yeah, you want to be able to take on as many different types of armies as possible Yeah And if you just play that list over and over and over again The problem that some people have is they they face the same opponents You know weekend and week out. Yeah, you don't go to tournaments and you don't experience Different games. Yeah, you you don't know how to grow your list or or To build different tactics. Yeah, sometimes you can go to a tournament and lose but learn an awful lot Yeah, how to change and be a more effective player Oh, she's shooting that the flea bags them. Yeah It's a good call for now. Yeah, that's good. That's believe Oh, it looks like he's got some damage on those mag ones as well. So I guess t