Alright, since it's 1.03, I'm going to go ahead and get this started. This is paid contribution, past, present, and future. This is a core conversation. It's a very, it's a mostly participatory session. I'm not going to call on anyone, but you are welcome to participate. We will have a Google Doc open where you can post your questions and thoughts. And there's also a microphone, so you can ask our panelists directly questions. And this is the link to the Google Doc. It's bit.ly forward slash paid dash contribution dash notes b-i-t dot l-y slash paid dash contribution dash notes. And I encourage you to also take notes within the doc itself. We will synthesize the comments later, hopefully we can share it with the rest of the community. So to get us started, I'm going to read part of the session description just to get our thoughts on the topic. So for most of Drupal's history, there have been occasional opportunities to get paid by some contributors to core. But in the last couple of years, we have seen significant growth in the number of individuals working on core as their primary job. And the number of companies employing those individuals. We also now have the Drupal Association providing grants for some of the critical work on core. And it has enabled some improvements that would have been nearly impossible to accomplish otherwise. But it also brings concerns about fairness, power imbalances, and volunteer morale, motivation, and other topics. My name is Alina McKenzie on Drupal.org. I am Alimac, and that is my Twitter handle right there. I'm a system administrator and web developer based in Chicago. And I've been working with Drupal for about four years and involved with the community for about two. Our panelists are Kalpana Ghol. My name is Kalpana Ghol. I'm K. Ghol on Drupal.org. I'm from Washington, D.C., work for Forum One as a developer. I started contributing to core in April 2013. So since then, I have been contributing. And we're very happy to have with us Aroni Kantis from Druid. I want to extend my thanks for being one of the sponsors of the mentor. Thank you, dinner. Thank you. You're welcome. Yes, so I'm a co-founder of Druid. In addition to being a developer, I'm kind of responsible for the brand and the marketing, which in our case mostly means community marketing. And now also includes paying for a few developers to actually contribute to core and all the other things. And finally, we have Kathy Faze. Hi, I'm Kathy. I'm Yastiti on Drupal.org. And I guess I've been contributing to course for a few years now. And I get paid to do it. I have a little interesting history about how I got paid, but right now it's my full-time job. Thank you. So I have a couple of notes about some of the history of paid contribution. First of all, this is not a recent concept, although it has sort of exploded in the last couple of years. We have been as early as around the time of Drupal 4.5. There had been some paid contribution going on. There is not a single model of either paid or unpaid contribution. We have several. In no particular order, we have some full-time employees who are paid to work on core. We also have employees of companies that provide a regular portion of their time to work on Drupal to contribute to Drupal. Or they have regular intervals at which they can contribute and be paid for it. We have folks who are full-time employees and work on Drupal in between projects whenever there is available time. But this kind of contribution is not regular. There have been several instances in which Drupal contributors have crowdfunded their own funds for contribution through services like GetTip. Right now it's Gratipay or Drupal Fundus. Some contribution is done through short-term or longer-term contracts. But these are finite, compensated type of payments. And finally, we have some contribution that is funded through indirect payments such as scholarships, grants, and that pay for some or all expenses but are not directly paying salary or contract or anything like that. So, let's talk about paid contribution. Once again, we have Google Doc where you can post your questions, make notes, and I'm going to start off the questions with a question to all the panelists about how they are currently paid or unpaid with what's the model that they're working within. So currently I'm not paid to work on Drupal Core. I started working on Drupal 8. I have zero contribution for Drupal 7 and I got motivated because I wanted to learn Drupal 8. My company encouraged me in the beginning to go to the sprints and work on Core. But we do have to survive. Companies do have bills to pay. So currently not paid to work on Core but I do contribution in my own personal times. Yeah, so I'm also not paid to contribute but I'm kind of on the other side of the deal. I have some contributions but they come from the projects I work on. But yeah, we are investing in contributing to Core. We are right now two developers who are not working full-time for Core but are especially now before Drupal Con because we tried to get Drupal 8 to release. Contributing a significant amount of time towards Drupal Core. You probably know Lowry by now. He has been really visible in Drupal Con and maybe Bart, Fenster or Xano also. Those are the guys who are mostly contributing to Core from us. The other guys also, we are now I think in place nine in the contributors list which is pretty good because we are kind of small companies still. Which is created by Lowry. Yes, that's true. Thanks. So can you speak a little bit to the model of paid contribution that they are working under? Are they full-time contributing or? When Bart started in last spring or summer, he was contributing full-time. Now he's doing part-part. Lowry is contributing three days a week right now I think, at least until Drupal Con. Lowry got generous offer from Drupal Association to pay for some time before Drupal Con to contribute on some initiative. But we kind of took over that. So we offered to pay for the time but we were also paying for him before that. I see. So basically a mixed model of different... That's right. Yes. Kathy? Sure. What was the question? Tell us about the model of paid contribution that you are participating in. So about a year and a half ago I started working at BlackMesh and the job offer was full-time to be Drupal Community Liaison. And then my work is probably split up into thirds on average. Probably like a third going to events and working there as part of sprints or mentoring. And then another third might be contributing on issues directly from home. And then another third is sprint planning, other kinds of things that help with the mentoring program. And then somewhere in there I also write blogs and do other internal stuff. Before that I was getting very small, regular sponsorship about 15 hours a week from a variety of companies. Initially it's Compress from Germany and then Chepers in Hungary and also BreakTech in Chicago over the... Like each one at a time over the years. Thank you. So I'm going to go into the doc right now and ask you some questions from the audience. The first one is about crowdfunded solutions for funding core contribution, which is Drupal 8 Accelerate and GitTip. Are these solutions sustainable? Well, I would say the GitTip grant-a-pay model is not sustainable. It's not discoverable and it doesn't have a very good experience for the people who are giving money because they have to know the individuals they want to give the money to instead of the general initiatives they would like to do. And typically the people who have the money are not intimately involved knowing individual people. So that was an interesting experiment, but I would not recommend it going forward. Right, grant-a-pay, yeah. Because they had several crises, one was maybe too political, but the other crisis was actually their banking provider or their credit card provider changed and they needed to change. It actually made it impossible to give money to a team. It's currently impossible to give money to a team, but the change now is you can only give money to a team. So these grant-a-pay links that for instance Davina has can't get money anymore. It needs to be a part of a team and maybe it's your fault or someone's fault whoever created the Drupal Core team didn't create another one. So there's no Drupal Core team anymore. Then once Alex Pot who was part of the team changed his funding and he got hired and some things changed there. The amount of money that was coming into the team was not significant to impact any of the people on the team. And so the investment in doing fundraising, promotion, maintenance of it didn't pay off. So it's absolutely my fault, but a strategic decision. It's not worth investing in that. And it didn't particularly work out very well in general. I look at all these things from the marketing perspective and if you want companies to give you money, of course everyone wants to contribute. We want to be nice to the community because the community gives lots of things to us, but still we need to think about the visibility. And I have not seen giving straight money to some, like, not anonymous, but like these kinds of sponsorships, it's not very good marketing-wise. I don't feel like we get visibility from those kinds of things. I prefer to get a little bit more creative when contributing something to the community. So it involves money every time, but that's why we do things like sponsor the mentor dinners and core sprints and stuff like this. We feel like we get more out of it with the same amount of money. It's the same thing with these regular sponsorships in TripleCon, for example. We feel like we get more visibility when we get speakers, when we contribute to the core, and stuff like that. So when people think that it's... Many companies think that it's wasted money to put developers at work on core, but like I said, pretty much everyone knows Lauri right now and pretty much everyone here knows our company, at least the logo they have seen or something. That's all part of the marketing we put. They are not accidents. We go to the parties and have fun and stuff like that. It's all part of the marketing strategy we have. When you say everybody knows Lauri and knows that he works for Druid, I wonder who everybody is because I suspect that might be other developers. I think one of the big advantages for companies, for paying part of their team to do a contribution, is it puts that company in front of the people that they will eventually want to hire, but not necessarily in front of customers who will give them projects. I'm wondering if you think that's accurate. No, I don't think it's accurate. Sorry. Yeah, this is the normal mantra. When you come to Drupalcon, you only have developers there, there's no customers. That's just one of the things. When we formed our company, we had the same principles that probably all the companies have. When you ask, what do you think? If you would be a customer ordering a project from a Drupal agency, what would be the things you respect in that company? What would be one of the things you look for? Usually the answer is quality, flexibility, which we call actuality in our company, and maybe involvement in the open source project because it brings skill in the house. Now, when you actually form the company and start to sell, you forget all these things. All these companies keep forgetting those principles they had when they stopped forming the company, like being a good citizen in the company, delivering quality instead of quantity and stuff like that. And this is the same thing, like an agileity is one thing they always forget. Okay, we want to do agile, but we are now in hurry, so let's implement our own scrum, like what we call crouching, agile, hidden waterfall or something. So you start to mess up with all these principles you have because you do not actually believe that your customers respect those. And we tried really hard not to forget this and just try to go with all these principles and go with the community marketing. We have not done any business to business marketing so far. We are now starting a little bit, but we have grown in three years from five people to 30 people just by doing these things we do. We contribute, we are active in the community, we sponsor these things and somehow the word goes to the customers. We don't call the customers, they call us right now and it has been always like that. So yes, the developers are here, but they talk to people. It's not just recruitment thing. It's of course we love to get to hire people who contribute to Quaran who are really skilled at triple, but they talk to customers also. That is how it goes. The word just goes around and companies start to know that we actually deliver quality that they work for. I have a follow-up question for Rani. So what made you decide that you want to encourage your developer to contribute to Quaran? I see that you listed the list of benefits you see by allowing Lorry to contribute to Quaran and lots of people know who Lorry is and who Lorry works for. But what made you decide to do that? That was one of the things we decided when we formed the company to work like this and now we are actually getting some, we are growing steadily and we now have some money to actually give back like that. It's not only like if you look at Lorry's triple skills, triple eight skills one year ago and now when he has been contributing, it's not just marketing. We get like kick-ass developers by letting them actually be in this community and learn from the other guys. That's why we are now really skilled company with triple eight and we have already released many triple eight sites since the first beta properly. So what I hear is correct that not only companies get benefited by contributing their developer time but developers also get benefited by polishing their skills and working closely with the core developers and learning all the skills. Absolutely and also they of course get motivation because they like to work with the core and now they get to do it. So there's lots of benefits. So for you, billing time was not an issue that Lorry is contributing to core and you have clients project waiting for Lorry to finish and so that was not a concern. Well it is always a concern but you have to put that money in to get something out. You cannot just put all the developers working on or all the guys in your company or people in your company to work on the client projects and then expect to continue that until the... You have to put money in the marketing and this is marketing for us and education and stuff like that. Sorry? It's an investment, yes. Thank you. So that kind of leads us into another question. Sponsorship is another way that companies contribute and should companies be motivated to do more paid contribution or more sponsorship and if so which one do you prefer? I don't really see the difference in those. They are all sponsoring the community. Like I said earlier, the return on investment in these sponsorships is not that great for us at least. You get the logo on some web page and that's it. We get a lot more from all these shadow sponsorships. But of course I encourage you to have the sponsorships and these events need money. That's definitely... But you maybe need to focus on how the companies actually get return from the sponsorships. We are sponsoring lots of events and I like it but that's not enough. You have to do more than just put money in and wait for the investment to return. You have to do some field work also but sponsoring is important because that keeps these events alive. Triple camps live with the money the companies give them. Tickets are not usually the main source of income. So it's really important but just try to get everything out of it. It's not just send money and then stay home. You have to go to the event and actually buy something but if you don't go there and actually take it then you won't get much with the sponsorship. The logo is not that big of a deal. Kathy or Kalpana, would you like to comment on the sponsorship versus paid contribution or paying developers to contribute? Which is the preferred for the companies that you work for? Well, I suspect we don't want to have only one or the other and which one is better for your company probably depends on your company's strategies. I think they both encourage the health of the project in different ways. So paying a contributor is direct and you can see your effects on this particular person and see what they work on. Sponsoring on the other hand is more diluted or spread out and more indirect. So like for example here at Drupalcon we have sprint days on Saturday, Sunday and Monday and then we have sprint days on Friday, Saturday and Sunday and if we didn't have companies sponsoring Drupalcon we couldn't do that and we would have six less days of hundreds of people sprinting if we didn't have enough sponsorships. So even if you took that amount of money and maybe a few companies paid ten developers their time that would be the equivalent of to like do direct contribution it's a different kind of thing. It enables for example right now some people to work on criticals but it also opens up the future contributors that we're going to have a year, two years from now and so I think we would be in very serious trouble if we didn't have those sponsorships also. So I think they're both really important but for different reasons. Okay so to not get angry letters from Drupal Association what I meant was that sponsoring is really important but it gives you the tools. When you sponsor you get the tools which you then use for marketing and stuff like that but if you leave those tools unused all you get is the logo on the web page. So if your company has like lots of money then maybe it's not problem for you but we need to get everything out of our sense we put in and that's why we don't want to left anything unused. So you get the tools by giving money then you need to use the tools actually. From my perspective my biggest concern is that the sponsorship and Ronnie already mentioned that before that sponsorship gives exposure to the companies if they sponsor Drupal Cons and Drupal Cams or sprints that all make it happen because of the sponsorship. Marketplace is a step towards recognizing contribution. I think if we can provide more recognition for the companies that they encourage their developers to contribute more to the core I think that will be a step towards like encouraging more companies to devote their developer time to work on core. So Mike Myers, VP of developer relations for Acquia we sponsor more events than any other organization in the ecosystem and I think that the challenge from a business standpoint you know a lot of what you're saying resonates with me more organizations would sponsor events if we could find ways to provide tangible business value. So when a camp approaches me and says I'd really like you to sponsor my event it's right now the question is do you want a small medium or large logo on our website? My answer is I don't really care about the size of my logo on your website. Do you want a booth? No, I don't want a booth because the people I send to the camp don't want to stand around a booth. They want to go to sessions. So I feel like we need to change the sponsorship packages to match the needs and the interests of the businesses and the people with the money and then if we're willing to do that I think that we'll find more businesses willing to sponsor at a significantly higher level which would I think meet the needs of the community but we really need to kind of rethink our approach to sponsorship and events as a community. Please use the mic. So what would you want?  I'll speak on behalf of a lot of the partners and clients as well as my own needs. I think that every organization I talk to needs to find talent. They want to grow their teams. Having a booth is not a great way to do that. Random people come up to me I don't know who they are something that we do here at Drupalcon we could replicate at a camp level for example is give people that are seeking job opportunities the opportunity to indicate that when they register for a camp and then as a sponsor at a particular level you could say send them a list of those people and that way before I show up at a camp I have a list of potential candidates I can look them up on LinkedIn I can contact them directly and say hey of the 30 people that are looking for jobs at this camp I might actually walk away with a great candidate. A simple idea Well actually in Drupalcon Montpellier in France last year there was a job speed dating thing so probably the communication I would like to bring this back to contribution and pay contribution because we kind of veered off into the weeds a little bit So the next question I would like to ask the panel is we spoke about the D8 Accelerate fund which has helped to pay for expenses and time of contributors to work on critical issues Do you think that the DA should have a sort of a permanent crowdfunding platform where the community members could raise the funds for contribution? Well there is a lot of power these days in this crowdfunding things but I don't know if those are for the companies maybe for the individual like individuals are now giving 20 euros a year or something to have these bats from Drupal association in their Drupal Harker profile or something This is the why not but it's not for the companies from my point of view actually maybe contribute something from my own pocket but when I have to think about to return and invest for the company no I don't think that's very interesting model for us so yes keep doing it but don't expect it to have the same audience as this sponsorship deals So can I say that is that why it took us so long seven months to raise only $250,000 because companies didn't see the value of just donating money to D8 accelerated fund? Well that's obvious right if companies see value in that they will put money in it if there is no money then the companies didn't see why they should invest in it $250,000 or $125,000? It was $250,000 I think Right so I'm a little iffy on that myself but I think there were four companies that they established a guarantee they would total up to $125,000 and then matching another $125,000 raised so the total amount of money was $250,000 Some companies gave significant chunks and other parts of it came from small individual contributions from community members Yeah We exactly Yeah we started with a commitment of $125,000 at the beginning and the idea was that each dollar that was donated by individuals and companies would be matched by the anchor companies who made the initial investment in the program I believe that half of that initial $125,000 came from the DA's DA's pocket to begin with and then the anchor companies donated the other $62,000 to bring that up to $125,000 Yes I think that's right I think that there are some parts of the Drewblade Accelerate that met the needs of businesses that we do want to keep around that were successful but there's more changes that we need to do when we were in the funding right before this one of the points that Alex mentioned quite well was that funding is a skill and with specific techniques that are based on research and getting good results informed by numbers and strategies and there are several things that we can improve on that was not done in this first centralized attempt by an official organization so as a first stab I think Drewblade Accelerate was done by the Drupal Association on Drupal.org was pretty good success and I think with some fundraising skills to improve that we can do even better the parts of it that I think met needs of big companies was they could easily find the place to donate it was on Drupal.org they did not have to identify the blocking issues the important areas that were lacking talent they did not need to then find the talent and pay them so they could just give money to a place that was very central, easy to find and then that place would distribute the money so that part of the model I think worked really well and we should keep that around well gee if they paid $250,000 for seven months of work like I want to go work and treat it I don't think it's quite equivalent there were the Drupal Accelerate helped many individuals work on core that would not have been able to otherwise and would have had to take client project more than just one or two people many people I've wondered for some time when we're trying to do funding we always go to companies to do funding and I think about let it begin with me what can I do as an individual I have contributed to core in the past and I do core through my paid job now but I've made a decision in my life I have a lot of client work that pays very well please don't I have a lot of paperwork that keeps me very busy and to take the time away from that to do core work I have to take a salary cut or charge more well I do charge more, we charge a lot and I like the money that I make so the decision that I have made personally in my life is to try to fund other core developers that was around, I decided I'd give a half hour of paid time a week to get to and when we did D8 accelerated decided to donate one day's pay to D8 accelerate I've thrown this idea out for other folks and it doesn't seem to resonate I'm just stating it again here I'd like to try to encourage the community of people that are like me I've been in the community for ten years I've known in the community for the work I've done and this is the way I contribute to D8 and there's got to be more people like me that could contribute in that way so the question I proposed in here was a tithing type of system where we had a badge I don't know how to make this something that's enticing but I really believe that this is part of my professional duty to contribute back just like being a Drupal Association member as part of my professional duty if I want to benefit from these things it's something I have to do for some people and they give a significant percentage of what they have that's a big impact on them and for other entities they could give the same amount it would be a much smaller percentage and it's hard to balance what kind of recognition you give people I think it all comes to like sorry the problem with all this community contribution stuff is that it's really hard to measure the return on invest it's hard to get the numbers how much I put this much money in how much do I get back and when is this money actually coming from that so you just have to trust your instincts on this and that's so in terms of D8 Accelerate though I think it's pretty one so hopeful measure is how much sooner you get Drupal 8 like that's literally the measure like we can all sit around and wait for it to be done in another two years when we're out of business or if being in business soon is important to you your return on investment is that you give money and you get to have Drupal sooner sure but that assumes that we cannot sell Drupal 7 anymore we have Drupal this is not the first Drupal we get but I agree we also are really eager to get to Drupal 8 and like I told we already have Drupal 8 sites and we really like Drupal 8 so that is one of the reasons we really try to contribute but of course one thing is that when Drupal 8 releases so that everyone wants to buy it we are already ahead of our competition because we have contributed we know how that system works in my opinion I think that DA should have started D8 Accelerate Fund sooner when I used to contribute I used to encourage my co-workers to why don't you contribute to core and because we are all benefiting from Drupal and more you contribute you get more opportunity to learn and grow but nobody was interested and they used to ask me oh how your core work is going how is it coming along and sooner like slowly slowly they started like not bothering at all so when I mentioned about Drupal 8 Accelerate Fund that if you don't contribute to core you can contribute this way like you can donate money and it will help us release Drupal 8 faster but I think at one point it's very hard and sad to say that it lost momentum in some for some of the developers that they don't care about Drupal 8 they say oh they asked me in a walkway that oh so how is Drupal 8 work going on are you still contributing so it's kind of sad I think if we could have done this a step earlier that could have helped us but it's never too late you just said that you were assuming that if Drupal 8 was not getting released you would still be in business because you would still be able to sell Drupal 7 I disagree on that because I think that clients are looking for sustainability of their websites sustainability of the product they're basing their websites on and since Drupal 8 has been announced so long ago and it is still not released clients are actually losing trust in the Drupal project as a whole and therefore not only in Drupal 8 but also in Drupal 7 so I think what Kathy said is that if Drupal 8's release is two years two extra years away we would all be out of business I guess you're correct and I'm it's great when he says it but not when I say it it is, sorry, okay you are both right the thing is that I still trust that Drupal 8 will be released thinking about if it's one month away or two months away, if it's two years ago always till we then we have a problem but one of the problems is maybe in the other end why do we announce it to our customers like three years before we release it because it was announced to us two or three years ago yeah but that is part of the problem maybe but I think we have strategies in place to fix that we are not planning on repeating that yes, there are nowadays 70% worsening and introducing some agility in the core of contribution and stuff so I think we are heading in the right way now and the community is understanding this problem Lasiu, I just wanted to share that we've been a bit before the D8 Accelerate Fund with the D8 Rules Initiative to get funds to port a contributed module that's used on 25% of all the Drupal websites what's challenging but also a very rewarding experience and we raised 18,000 euros more than a year later we finished the first milestone so we spent all the money and it was kind of a great experience because on the way first of all we could fix a lot of Drupal core issues we could work on the module we could also train a lot of people of more people involved but also feel like it's still really challenging now having to ask again for money and having to ask twice for milestone two and milestone three I have to raise double of the money that I've already raised I just feel like I don't know if I really will have the energy to do that again well it's fundraising is a separate job that I mentioned earlier so maybe a bit broader question so if we take the Linux kernel for example I mean they get a lot of people full-time paid to work on it because it's critical to businesses Microsoft and all those guys so the question is how can you make Drupal occupy the same critical space for the company so that they have to hire full-time core developers if it's even possible can I answer I think the Linux kernel is quite different it's not so easy to contribute to that so if we want to have the Linux model we should make it harder to contribute to Drupal core contributing to the Linux kernel is extremely hard and if you have one patch most likely get a job somewhere because you made that happen so Drupal is really easy to get into and people rely on the fact that at some point we fix it if you're a professional company in Linux and there's a specific problem nobody will fix it for you you have to do it yourself you have to hire core people that's not the case in Drupal so I think it's hard to compare but I think that Drupal community is doing awesome work today is just what we have had now they are doing things right so I don't think that's actually a problem currently Hi just to read the conversation I heard you mentioning about the current competition of Drupal I would like to maybe understand better what you think is the current competition on Drupal and what do you expect in the next five years in terms of competition what would be our what would be Drupal's main competitor whatever you see that to still be a platform like a community development one or whatever some new framework that will come up ok so you heard the competition and took it as competition to Drupal I was referring to competition to Druid but I think different countries have different different problems with this I don't know well I'm not going to mention in systems and starting those wars but anyway we have some competition there but Drupal is now extremely strong the way to keep Drupal alive is to keep the Drupal companies alive I think the community is awesome but you need the business around Drupal to keep it alive but in Finland it's really strong now I think maybe Tris already answered that to some extent in his keynotes if you saw it and otherwise very soon I think after this slot there is a Drupal 8 retrospective and it's a good question so we have about 10 minutes left in the session I would like to ask all of you about what do you think the future of paid contribution looks like and what is your kind of a wish list for that or ideal state that you can imagine so I've seen a trend recently within the last year of companies who have a strong secure financial business position are publicly announcing that they're hiring people specifically to contribute to open source projects half time or full time people are either adding to what they already have in place in terms of company policy or they're rearranging their resources to have some people who have concentrated time obviously Druid is doing it Pantheon has two people now I work for Black Mesh, Alex is a Chapter 3 Aquia has six to whatever and being public about it not keeping it a secret so I see that trend I don't have concerns about the trend I think it's effective and healthy so I would like to see that continue as part of one of the ways that happens I also think triple aid accelerate should continue and improve and in terms of the recent things that have changed I think those are really good I think one of the things we're really lacking right now in terms of at least Drupal 8 is where lacking clients, huge gigantic clients with money that want Drupal 8 right now and I think for past releases of Drupal we've had those in the past and we don't have those right now and I think we're feeling the effect of missing that it wasn't public in the past and I think we're missing it right now and I think we can sense that I'd like to address that thing first I think why we are missing that is because the company is a little bit afraid because the chains are a lot bigger now when we went to Drupal 8 the whole framework changed when we switched from Drupal 6 to Drupal 7 companies were confident that they still have the skills to offer Drupal 7 not many companies are not so sure but that wasn't the original question I think the game is about the chains with the paid core contribution now if the versioning changes and the release system changes because I think that the best point for companies in terms of visibility is to contribute when the Drupal version is getting visibility and that's usually when it's announced first when it's announced and then like four years goes no one contributes because it does not gain attention and then when the release gets closer then people start contributing again because they get more return on their money I think that's exactly right and when a couple years ago when I was talking with Hey Rocker about that, that was exactly his point when he was trying to raise money for CMI for the configuration management initiative he said his biggest problem was that he had companies that were willing to give him a lot of money but they wanted to see something in six months not three years so the semantic versioning and the being able to add features thing you're one point there what concerns me a little bit about people getting core developer jobs is the way they got it like you and Alex basically if somebody wants to do the job that you're doing they have to be unpaid for one and a half year do lots of stuff in the volunteer time make a big name in the community then making the rounds to like 20, 30 companies please hire me, please hire me, please hire me a lot of begging and then finally you get your job so it feels a little bit I don't know I agree I didn't understand correctly so did you say that it's hard to get to work for a company that wants to contribute if you want to do a purely core developer job there are no job advertisements out there that would provide that so you have to find your way in by working for free for several years and there's also another risk because now we're releasing Drupal 8 your company's not going to be looking to the horizon to Drupal 9 for quite some time so they might actually fire you it could happen with others I don't think so sorry can I answer first I don't think it's reasonable to expect maybe that you can work 100% of your time for four years towards the core but it's reasonable to ask like to put part of your time because it's too expensive for company even if they like to do it they don't want to get bankrupt but so if you want to do a part time core development I'll get you the deal and you can sign it we'll hire you right now but okay just to answer your question or the thing you just mentioned note that Drupal 9 is so far out what is the value, why not just fire those people exactly because of semantic versioning you will actually have only six months from the time that you're actually working on something to actually being able to use that is only six months instead of years to change the difference on the other hand some companies were looking for Drupal 8 because it had so many things on it that they wanted the new semantic versionings are some companies will say yes I want that on the other end they will say but I want that other thing that is going to be only three years from now I don't want to wait I just do not bother I don't know just one possibility I think it will actually help because it will be more apparent which things are on the horizon and then when you're keenly interested in them you will have more optimism that that's going to happen so instead of some kind of generic like something is coming you probably want to fund you'll be like oh my god this thing and as a company that could be directly in your interest one thing that I didn't see in the conversation up to now and it was just you two talking in private before the conversation started the new sorting of the marketplace is probably going to do a lot to encourage companies to actually get their employees contributing it's going to be only now only code because that's the thing we can measure unfortunately so mentoring and being the mentor everywhere does not count but well that's not actually true so a while ago we had for years a culture of counting contribution only code and counting it through core commit mentions so if your name wasn't in the message of the core commit there was no way to count your contribution and culturally that had started to shift and additionally now the core committers are making significant effort to give credit to people who do reviews so there are now people getting commit mentions that are not writing code on maybe that specific issue it's very difficult to actually do a review on something without having ever done that but there's more there and I was talking to Jess the other day because as part of the mentoring conversation that we were having about what what benefits mentors get and how they don't get recognition and Jess recommended that when mentors are helping somebody else work on an issue that the mentor make a comment on the issue saying I as a mentor am helping so and so work on whatever and when a mentor does that that allows the core committers to then even give credit if a mentor does not comment on an issue at all they can't get credit for it so if we can start to establish a pattern of exposing mentoring on the issues that at least gives us the availability of giving those mentions that are now counted through the new comment attribution so when you make a comment on Drupal.org now there's a place where you can say I'm working as a volunteer or I am working for my company and then you can auto complete which company you work for if you work for more than one and additionally you can say you can add on for customer whatever so as if I'm mentoring and I'm working for black mesh and I'm helping somebody else work on an issue I can make a comment on it saying I'm mentoring them attribute my comment to black mesh and then my mentoring things that may not have otherwise produced any kind of commit mention start to increase their ranking in the marketplace just as if I had worked on a patch for the issue and because of the multiplying effect of mentoring so she was recommending that we could use that as a way of recognizing that contribution and encouraging companies to do that also I think that would be great I would like to give Kelpa a chance to talk about her wish list as the last thing our session is now over my wish list is like how can I if I'm for example I'm not looking for a job but if I'm looking for a job and I have certain patches in core that's only my resume that's the main attraction of my resume how would I attract companies to sell my resume and say please hire me because I know something about maybe other people don't know and how can I encourage companies to encourage more employees to work on core all right thank you we can continue this conversation but we should need to close up very great 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So you know if I release an app for Android called you survey for Surveying wireless networks. I like the name pretty fun. So you get it's a survey play on words But this is a really cool app. I've been testing it for a little bit and it seems to work great I've used it a handful of times go out to clients and scan Wi-Fi And I'm gonna show you the second how it works I did look to see if it was available on Apple and I didn't see it in the Apple one So sorry iPhone folks. I Don't see the tool. Maybe they'll release one But I think it has to do with the way Apple doesn't allow access to the Wi-Fi in the same way That would be my guess as to why they don't have it But nonetheless, they if you have an Android, let's talk about this So here's what you survey looks like I jump over to my phone here and it's pretty straightforward. So you have the List of Wi-Fi networks it shows which ones you're actually linked to Tells you the signal and as you wander around the signal goes up and down has the channels in it Which is kind of cool So I can look and see what channels were on for the 5 gigahertz or we can switch over here to the 2.4 And I don't know who's this net gear is or the ZTT one probably my neighbors in the strip mall here and Xfinity and this is also kind of interesting because the unify will put itself on the channel We've told to auto change channel to whichever is most efficient You can see our unify being the green one over here is in the right area because there's Noise here lots of noise. Comcast doesn't care. Let's just put everything under the same Wireless and then here's our unify going we're gonna stay out of that space over there So it's pretty straightforward. It's got a slick interface for sliding your finger around looking at the different Sections of the spectrum here or on the 2.4 how we can just go from here to here or touch one specific one And it'll highlight that on there really easy to use Pretty like I said, there's not a lot to it I like it compared to some of the other ones out there that have the ads in it and stuff like that Pop of the bottom. This is another neat feature once you are connected to a network. It will tell you the Other devices it discovers on there. So I thought that was actually kind of clever So we doing a refresh right now and it's gonna go count the hops it's gonna figure out where my firewall is You know quit a credit short list also if you notice in the list it tells you the Wi-Fi devices So like this AT&T one has an errors group chip internet of insecure things. That's ours This in case you someone's gonna point it out in the comments. Yes insecure is spelled wrong. That's not an accident It's part of our humor then we can see that it's a pegatron with the Xfinity ones which I believe they use errors modems, but it's identifying them by the chip set So that's kind of cool and we have a hidden SSID But it we can see it's from a ubiquity networks That's also something that we have running on ours one of the hidden SSIDs we have set up So pretty cool. We have a few different unified devices That's why you're seeing even though they're all ubiquitous the ones that all see ubiquity as far as you know are ours On here at least I'm pretty sure all the hidden ones are as well But you see the varying because we actually have several different devices because the testing we're doing Now not a ton of options report an issue other apps in their store has the version number Sort by Signals security so real real basic options, but a lot of times It's all you really need is to see which Wi-Fi is available See what the strength is and then click on that one and it gives you a little history of this one tells you what speech You're connected at and as you wander around It will you can go and see how that signal changes It's also showing you right here, and this is something really clever. You see each of the other Devices and it has a guesstimate for how far away those devices are from you. I want to tell you what that's pretty accurate For device termination They are literally a few feet from me because of where I'm sitting in my office They're sitting just on the other side of the wall from my office. So pretty neat I didn't do every measurement, but it's it's rough estimates for how far away things are and it seems to be It seems to work, which is pretty cool It does not have the estimates though for the other non-unify equipment I don't know what special thing they're doing or probably understand signal timings to get that information out But this is a great little tool and finally one thing I like it has built in there is a speed test with a history So each time you run it it's giving me the different speed tests on there And it also pings and can show the speed test against things like the gateway Twitter Facebook Google So at least has a couple common services in there I didn't see any way to customize the speed test to you know putting your own things that you want there for speed test So I'm not clear where it's actually going probably just using Google for the speed test But it gives you a rough idea when you're doing a test because when she was a baseline, okay It goes this fast from close to it go further away and see if you get the same speed And I like that it has the results in a little historical Thing here so you can look at them And I was hitting them in quick succession and decided to only do one result here and then have another result at the bottom But like I said, this is a handy little tool. It's free So even if you're not a person who's using it to unify stuff at all you could still grab this download it load on your phone and Do a quick Wi-Fi survey and see what's around you and do some distance testing I'm probably gonna use this because we have a review I'm gonna do soon on a handful of unified devices and I may as well use their tool and I want to do some comparisons because we'll put all the devices next to each other and Set a different Wi-Fi on each one of them and see how far each one of them reaches and see what the differences are Look for that test coming up soon and in the short term I'll leave a link to where you can get this in the Android store So make sure you get the proper one because occasionally people like to make fake things and stores and maybe give it a similar name But yeah, this is pretty pretty handy little tool and you can't beat the price. It's free Go ahead and play with it. All right. If you like to come in here like subscribe. Thanks


It is what they call the zeitgeber, the timekeeper, that maybe the sun and we are absolutely inextricably bonded. So what about the last idea we have about our thingness? It is our thoughts are our own. This is what we think is totally ourselves. And we think this, at least we did until the work of Giacomo Risalati. And as you saw through that video, Risalati was thunderstruck one day when doing his work with movie. He's a neuroscientist who is an expert in movement. And he was looking at this monkeys and he was testing the monkey to see which neuron fired when it reached for a peanut. And he found, as you saw on the movie, that the same neuron essentially fired when a researcher reached for a peanut as when the monkey did himself. So Risalati and his colleagues went on to study lots of other people, human beings, and they found that when we see a movement or we see an emotion, essentially the same neurons fire as if we were carrying out the movement, we were having that emotion. What does that mean, actually? First of all, it's a way for us to understand the world as the movie said, but it also means in a sense to make sense of the world, we have to actually merge with it. When we say, we say in the West, I feel your pain, bro. When we say I feel your pain, what we really mean is we actually do feel it because neurons fired, not the actual physical pain, but the emotional content of that pain, we feel ourselves. So nature has designed us to understand the world by bonding with it, by merging with it. So let's look at all of this stuff together. If there's no such thing really as things, if my biology is, Ben, yours is built from outside in by everything else outside of ourselves, finally determines the person we're going to be, if we can be influenced by a star hundreds of thousands of miles away, if my thoughts are not just mine, but a complex mix of everyone else's around me, as I do this, you're thinking that, you're feeling that, your neurons are firing as though you're doing that. If all of those things are happening to me, if I'm part of all of this, how can I say that this alone is me? Where can I say that I end and the rest of the world begin? Well, the point is I can't. I can only understand myself in relationship. I can only understand myself, and you can only understand yourself as part of a greater bond. So let's start looking at the whole idea of competition. We've looked at individualism. Let's look at competition because we've been told from the evolutionary biologists on Upward that we were born to compete. Even our genes were born to compete. But I've looked at all the science and I believe nature has not designed us to dominate. Nature has designed us to connect and we see that in so many aspects of our human behavior and what we've been hardwired to do. For instance, our need to what I call share, our need to belong. Now this is contrary to what we try to portray about ourselves in our popular culture. We like to do movies and books about the lone wolf hero, the guy with his or woman with his fist up against the establishment, whether he's Nicholas Cage or John Wayne or Humphrey Bogart or even Superman. The guy who stands up and is a lone individual and he's probably best epitomized by Gary Cooper in that old movie, The Fountainhead, which was based on the book by Ayn Rand. Anybody read that book? That was, this is the handbook for Western capitalism or at least it was. It's considered, you know, it's considered the beautiful sort of fictionalized encapsulation of Rand's objectivist philosophy. Now Howard Rourke, if you don't know the story, is an architect and he is a very uncompromising architect. He wants to build buildings his way. So he designs a public housing project as he's commissioned to do and the people who commission it decide to change it. So when it's finally built, the design is bastardized. This infuriates Rourke. So he actually blows it up and because he's a rugged individualist he decides during his trial, because he's of course arrested and put on trial, to defend himself and that gives Rand a chance for him to be a mouthpiece for her objectivist philosophy and so he stands up during his talk to the jury and he says, I do not owe one minute of my life to anyone else. That was my building. I chose to build it. I chose to destroy it. It is altruism that's killing us and so essentially her is the greed is good philosophy. She was greed is good before we ever heard of Wall Street and at the end of the movie and the book he gets acquitted despite blowing up a city block. He gets the girl and he gets to build buildings his way and he stands really at the end triumphant the Nietzschean superhero essentially the Ubermensch and he's also the perfect candidate for a heart attack. The evidence shows that when they look at heart attack victims they find that only half have the usual risk factors. You know, high blood cholesterol, high blood pressure. The rest, the other half are actually disconnected and lonely. Loneliness has been linked with so many things and so has the reverse. Now epidemiologists are really fascinated by the Japanese for instance because the Japanese smoke like chimneys but they don't get heart disease until they move to America in which case some of them do, lots of them do but some of them don't and so this fascinated a group of epidemiologists at Berkeley University and so they started University of California at Berkeley and so they started looking closer and they found this. They found that diet had nothing to do with it. Didn't matter if some of those people didn't get heart attacks, had tofu and sushi or Big Macs and fries. The only thing that mattered, the only thing that mattered is whether they recreated the close community ties that they'd had in Japan. In fact, they flew to Japan these scientists to try to find out what this amazing X factor was of impregnable good health and the Japanese just looked at them like they were crazy. They said, were you Americans? You're so lonely. You even walked down the street alone. Anybody can see this. Loneliness and loneliness has been the cause of all kinds of diseases and by the same token connecting is protective not only against heart disease but stroke the common cold.  They feel left out. By the same token, joining, Harvard scientists have discovered if you join one group next year, bowling club, book club, church group, you have your chances of dying. It's that powerful. We have been programmed and hardwired to be together, to connect, not to be individuals. Second example that we need to connect is our need to agree with each other. We need to, I call it being aware. We need to agree and you see this. If you were filming, you're filming me but if I were filming you, you would see that you're actually nodding and blinking in time to my voice. There've been a lot of stop-action type studies of this and they've found people have an incredible need to imitate and that goes in offices, it goes in all kinds of aspects of life. Now, a woman called Segal Barsad discovered this. When she was working in her office, she's gone on to, she studies business behavior and what she calls the ripple effect because she found in her office one day which was a really miserable place to work. It was very testy and sullen and all of a sudden it wasn't like that. Everybody was suddenly chatting. People were standing around the coffee machine passing the time of day. She couldn't figure out what the difference was until all of a sudden it occurred to her that a grumpy coworker was on vacation and that wonderful atmosphere lasted all week until the coworker got back and then the whole mood descended again and she began to study emotional contagion and she found that it's true when someone, when you put a cuckoo in the nest, when you put somebody with a negative attitude in with a group of managers, they make bad decisions. They make worse decisions than when you put somebody positive in. Now, this not only happens to one person but it happens down a social network. So I'd like to show you a short movie to just illustrate this. In a girl's boarding school in Africa, three students suddenly started laughing uncontrollably. Six weeks later, more than half the school had been affected. The school was closed and pupils were sent home to their towns and villages. 10 days later, another curious thing happened. The laughter broke out again in a village over 55 miles away where some of the students lived. Hundreds more were affected. Other outbreaks started over a wide area until the epidemic peated out after six months. By then, over a thousand people had been affected though they all fully recovered. So why did it happen? Some villagers thought it was caused by radiation poisoning and doctors were called in to investigate. Their findings? Mass psychogenic illness. Emotions of all kinds can spread quickly. How you feel depends on how others feel. In fact, even a friend's friend's friend can affect you. We're biologically hardwired to mimic people around us. Probably a relic from the days when we needed to group together to ward off enemies or hunt for food. By copying others' outward behavior, we also adopt their inner emotions. Your friend feels happy, she smiles.  Positive emotions like this can feed an emotional stampede which can often last longer than a stampede of negative emotions. The laughter epidemic, just one way social networks have amazing power over us.


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God's beauty is all around us and my goal as an artist is to capture and interpret that beauty on canvas and to take you, the viewer, along with me on this painting journey. Hello and welcome to Painting Journeys. Once again we're in the studios and we're going to be painting for you and taking you on a journey today. We're still in Ireland, we're still traveling around Ireland, but first of all I'd like to remind you of what we did in our last episode and that was a painting of a boat along the Grand Canal and if you remember the Grand Canal is very, very narrow and it flows from the Shannon River all the way to Dublin, it's a method of transportation. So anyway and this is what the painting looked like when I had completed it at our show. And I had brought it this far along, I was pretty pleased with it, but it still was kind of rough, it needed a little more work and so I took it to my home studio and I have enhanced it and of course now it's framed and it has a little more color. I mean I like the roof to be a little brighter red over here and I did a little work in on the fence here and I did quite a bit of work on the boat, I noticed I had a little small before and so I elongated a little and highlighted it and I added some red flowers over here just to bring the flow of the eye over because now you see how your eye stays right in the picture because it just goes up and around and so anyway that's the boating on the Grand Canal and now today as I was telling you last week or excuse me as I was telling you in our last episode I was talking about the Shannon River and the Shannon River is the main water source that divides East Ireland from West Ireland. We one day took a trip to the city of Athlone and we painted alongside the Shannon River and this is the scene that we painted and I am going to recreate it for you, make a new painting for you and you know it just it really spoke to me and I have some funny stories to tell you about it but anyway so this is Kitty Linclish and this is Painting Journeys and let's let's go on a journey. All right I have my palette as usual it's warm colors and cool colors not too large of a color selection I like to mix most of my paints and I have this blocked in because I for the shapes because I wanted to not be worried about you know getting that the canvas covered for you I wanted to really have the canvas covered and then go in and try for more of I'll be repainting the whole canvas but I wanted to try for more of a finish today we'll see we'll see how I do who knows 50 50 chance mess or a masterpiece so let's get to work here when we went to Ireland it was I believe it was April and might have even been the very beginning of May but I think it was April anyway the the I was told that it could be cold and it could be quite rainy and but it as it turned out the 14 days that we were there the weather was absolutely delightful really very very pretty weather I mean it was like in the 60s and the sun shone almost every day of which gave us a wonderful opportunity to see the beautiful landscape and the colors of the many many various great shades of green in the landscape it's you know the day that we went to Athlone we were riding in the bus on the way over we had this darling little mini bus that held about 16 people very comfortable we were riding along and and as you're passing by the the homes it was such a a combination of of different types of places some of the places were very old all made of stone with thatched roofs and then you would every once in a while you would come on to a place that was very quite modern looking I was talking to a young man on the bus and he was telling me how Ireland at that time was in the midst of an economic boom and because of of technology and he said that that a lot of the places were you know a lot of new businesses and new new homes were being built and and things like that and I was quite impressed by that I was also a little surprised I didn't know that you know that Ireland would be in that technological race that the world seems to be in now anyway I like the older places I like the places that had character the old stone fences everywhere all the fences the the fields sometimes you go buy a farmer's place in his whole field would be cut off into little sections you know maybe like a quarter of an acre and there would be these little stone fences around it and I guess this was for the sheep because I don't think that the sheep climb over those small fences or because I think they were only like maybe two or three feet high I guess the sheep wouldn't go over them so we saw all kinds of different sheep the sheep over there they look different than the ones here they're larger a little larger and they look a little wilder kind of their hair is in their faces are a little more pointy looking and kind of different looking but then like every place you know it each place has animals that adapt to the areas that they're in just laying the sky in I want I want the clouds in there they're important because they kind of go with the story that I have to tell about our painting trip along the Shannon River in Athlon we got there and painted all morning and the weather was absolutely gorgeous sunny beautiful just like this picture and then as we're we take a look we took a lunch break and there was this marvelous Thai restaurant and everyone wanted to go to that can you imagine Thai food in Ireland I was kind of surprised but it was delicious anyway so someone we all had all of our painting supplies so someone had to stay outside and watch the same the painting supplies so I thought well I'm the teacher I'll do that and so I sat outside alongside the river and I they brought me out the food the waiter brought it out on a tray and I swear you to thought I was the queen of England there I am sitting out there on this bench along the river with this gorgeous view and here's the waiter bringing me these ornate this ornate pot of tea and and everything that I had ordered and it was just I felt very special it was very very nice very very nice people in Ireland are they're kind of I don't know they're really special people they're very they're very kind very outgoing warm friendly almost to a fault but I enjoyed myself later in the day as we were after lunch we had gone back to our paintings and it clouded over and I had one little gal in my group that was painting in watercolor and the wind had come up I've got this building right here so I have to be careful with this line right in here and I do want to put more of those clouds in there anyway she's painting with watercolor and sitting very close she made me kind of nervous because she was so close to the edge of the river and she all of a sudden she we hear this scream and we look and there's her painting it had blown off of her easel and into the water and you know we didn't have anything to fish it out with and she'd been working all day on it and she's crying and and oh help help help and the painting is just like floating on the top of the water and you know because the water was really rough and moving and the painting is just kind of floating around and so here comes this marvelous Irish fellow and he's got he's got this thing I don't know where he came from but he's got this thing that's kind of got like a hook on it and he comes running over I will get it I will get it you know he's fishing in the river well it when he went to to reach down to pull it up it kind of made it sink a little bit further and I thought oh boy it's gone it's it's got to be gone now but he was able to lean over and I mean he was really leaning over he was leaning over the water and a couple of the guys in our group were holding his legs as he was trying to fish down and pull this painting back up well do you want to hear the most marvelous thing though when he did pull the painting back up it wasn't torn and the painting was still there even though it had been you know tousled around in the water it was quite amazing to all of us you know so then the skies opened up and it started to pour and here we all are were dressed rather lightly you know and the rain was cold oh god it was cold so we had to run and there was no place to put our our supplies the bus our painting supplies the bus was nowhere to be seen and so we ran down the street and there was a the pubs in Ireland some of them are very very tiny very tiny I mean like we're talking about maybe a room that is maybe eight by ten okay and everyone is all crowded in there okay well we ran into this pub and they had a back room and they let us go in their back room and there was a little fireplace there oh it was so neat there was a fireplace and they served us drinks warm drinks we all had I think we had Irish coffee to kind of warm up and everything and we stood around the fire and it was lovely it was really really something it was quite an exciting day let me see here I'm seeing a little more pink on this bridge pink in the gray and a little gray in there let's see now we do have this building behind there's a little dark spot right in there a little shadow area and this is coming like this the the church's cathedrals just gorgeous absolutely gorgeous I put a little bit of my sky in there try to get this to have like a little more of a of a texture to feeling I probably think that's kind of funny I just sort of stop and remit sentence and I have to think though to think as I'm working I want that to be a little there we go that's not looking too terribly bad not to say that it's looking good but it's not looking too bad a little realm thing there big thing I'm I can't wait to get to is the water that's going to be nice and fun show you how I make my my water my moving water that bridge has just got a little bit of all these different colors in it so and this right here this is a little darker you know when it comes to places to travel to I think probably Ireland is what was one of my favorites I can't say more than Italy or any of the other places I've been but Ireland was very very special special time special group of people and this is going to be quite a bit darker underneath here just show that bridge and this right in here let me see here I'm picking up the color underneath it I need it darker there we go and then here that's coming up like that I might have to go back in there a little bit a little later on and I don't want to get stuck in this one spot here I do want to darken I'm going to take a little bit of my alizarin and put in the in this reflection I don't want it to be so cool that shadow underneath the bridge I want to warm that up a little bit by using just a little bit of my alizarin you see how that much more alive that makes that look there we go it's good I don't know what I would do without my alizarin crimson is one of my favorite colors to paint with you can tell I'm getting really getting into this now I'm thinking hard I want this to out nice you know until the 1800s when they built those canals from the Shannon river that connected the Shannon river to the eastern side of Ireland to Dublin and everything everything had to go by land that must have really been something but the canals they built they see here pretty straight not too bad and we'll soften that in just a little bit there I just want that to look like a little bit of a shadow up above there there we go and I'm going to take my wipeout tool and wipe this out I want this to be much much darker in there and then I'll come back in with my red and the black and fix that guy up there we go all right right coming right here now I see we have a this was this was kind of a circle that would that came around in the water and it jutted out and there was grass and as you can see there was grass and things growing in there and um so we'll have to be sure and get that in but then here on the bottom whoops not dark enough kitty here on the bottom you know I gotta lighten that up um is casting a little darker shadow oh there we go there's another little one right there too and then if we just take whoops if we just take our wipeout tool and wipe out a little bit right in here see how nicely that removes the paint we'll take a smaller brush and we'll put a little bit of green in there greens of Ireland here needs to be a little bit brighter a little bit of light up it just a little bit and over here I think there's a little bit too I don't know we have a that building that we've got to kind of get blocked in there in the water the reflection of this is coming down into the water and the reflection over here is coming into the water and back in here okay the building okay I need a little smaller brush for that let's see that's that same kind of gray it's funny how when you look at scenes things just keep repeating themselves it seems like so we're putting this roof on I'm not going to worry about a lot of detail the roof comes down like this it's a little bit lighter warmer light striking it is why so that will be right there then we have another little building right there that has a little roof on it that's coming this way and let me see here I've got a couple little windows like I said I don't want to do too much here I just want to sort of suggest when I take this back to the studio then I'll to my home studio then I'll do a little bit more of the detail on it really doesn't need much detail it's just it's back there it's not really all that important we just want to show that it's there maybe a little bit of white on this one here in the front of this one lighten that up just a bit and the roof is coming out here and then we'll have to take our sky and bring it down right in there there and put the roof back on there on the corner there we go okay now so down here then we have this pinkish of the building again and so we'll carry that through right there so that we can see that the building is on the on the backside there over here and in here there's a lot there's a lot of detail you know I don't even want to go there I don't want I don't want to get bogged down with all that detail I see that there's a nice dark tree here on the shore and there's another one that's a little bit lighter I mean that that detail is so far back if I made it too pronounced it it really wouldn't make for a good painting so I'll just put these back here and I'll just and maybe we'll do the same right here maybe we'll have a instead of putting all those buildings and and bushes and stairwells everything that I'm seeing here in my picture maybe we'll just have a little green right in there too like there was a little tree and some light over here the same thing nothing like greening it up now that isn't what I see but I don't want detail so that's why I do it I want to just suggest that there's something back there so that we can see that there's something back there all right now the water on the other side I want to show that as being quite a bit lighter on the other side of the shadow so that we can see that we have the shadow and then we also have the water so that we feel we have more of a feeling like we're seeing through we'll take that dark brush again and punch back up our our shadows in the water and then let that soften together there to I don't want the hard line there we go okay looking pretty good now I want to take some the water has some beautiful cues of blues and greens and reflections and everything in it so I'm going to start by making my downward strokes in this fashion I'm going to take some dark and put in there you see what I'm doing here just making kind of a downward stroke where I see light I have to get a clean brush and I'll put light and there is light right in here and there's lots of light from this building or the bridge or something right there so we definitely want that in there and there's more light there's light going right across here too and some light over in here I'm not going to worry about the swans I don't know if you can see them you see them here I have three swans because there was one that was quite a bit larger he was very close and he was very friendly in fact he was a real beggar he was always there looking for a handout especially when I had lunch now then we'll put more dark on this river has so many beautiful colors of blue in it it's just unbelievable and some gray too this is kind of a tedious application but you'll see what I'm going to do here in a few minutes and I think you'll like it this is my preparation I need some even darker one thing about my trip to Ireland with all the painters stayed at a place in county Claire and it was had belonged to it was an estate that had been converted to a bed and breakfast it was absolutely gorgeous the grounds everything I mean just little streams running through it and the pasture lands around it a little church Catholic church that belonged to the little town village it was more of a village it wasn't really a town but anyway the I went to the mass there on that Sunday to the church it was just lovely inside and for all of you Catholics out there you'd be amazed at how fast and Irish masses I thought we did a first a fast mass in this in the states my goodness theirs was like all of about 25 minutes I guess there's a lot of us that would prefer that but I was kind of surprised I thought it would be longer anyway when we would get back in the evening there was this gorgeous huge sitting room with all these chairs and we would all sit around and have cocktails and while we were waiting for dinner to be served you know and it was in a way you know I mean you didn't have to dress for dinner if you didn't want to but you could it was one of those wonderful kind of places that kind of left it to you what you wanted to do there was a couple nights that I got kind of gussied up and then there were quite a few nights that I was just too tired to mess with it but anyway so then we'd go into this lovely dining room and have marvelous service talk about our day and everybody that's the point time when everyone would come together and we would share our adventures because the painters husbands or friends that had traveled with them on this trip on this journey sometimes they would go and do something else during the day while we were out painting racing horse racing is really big over there and so a lot of the guys would go to the horse races so kind of exciting I don't know if anybody bet or if they won if they did they didn't brag to me if they lost they didn't cry to me that was kind of nice I guess okay you're probably thinking what in the world is she doing trust me you have to trust me I think like I told you in the beginning 50 50 chance a master a masterpiece a little bit of light down here kind of bring it up okay it's a rather I think I want to highlight that rock just a little bit there you know to be able to travel and go to these different places and then to be able to come into your living room and share these journeys with you and as I'm painting and showing you you know somewhat what the place looked like it is such I feel so truly blessed this is just a real highlight for me of my day or my week or since it's a monthly show my month but I really like it it I like to have this opportunity and I always have to you know I think about all the guys here that it takes to make this show you know the cameramen and the guy in the booth I appreciate them all okay now I think it's time for us to make a little magic all right so let's make the river Shannon come to life just a second I do see a little pink here and there let's see here what happens smaller brush this one might be good we can use a little bigger one so we'll keep with the smaller one back here like this one it's done now we'll take a little bigger brush I think this one would be good that water is moving very fast so what I'm trying to do is create that feeling of the moving water we still have our our bridge coming down into the into the reflection reflecting excuse me reflecting into the water all the colors of blues and the and the reflections and shadows will all be in there I hope this looks like water to you just to me maybe a little bit of light here because we're going to have our our swan coming down right in here so there would be just a little bit of a light in that area a little bit of the swan's neck coming down in the water all right that looks nice and soft like lots of water with action in it maybe we'll put just a few few little darker places in it to kind of give it a little bit of a of a lilt there's a good irish word for you at night they would have like a little cab array for us at the place where we were staying and they had this gentleman that was a storyteller I have never heard anything like this in my life you know over here we have rapping and it's you know kind of like a story well to hear it done in an irish brogue and everything is rhyming and the fellow is making it up as he as he's going I mean he's looking at you and he's making up a poem about you while you're while you're sitting there I mean it was just amazing this gentleman was just the cutest fellow and so talented that he could just make these little verses up and he addressed each one in the in the room he had his little sayings it was it was really something and they're called a storyteller and they'll they'll tell stories about old you know olden times in Ireland and and the past and it's really something there we go okay now I think we need to get those swans in there and I think I have this one I'm looking at my placement here and I'm not real happy with that he seems to me like he's not quite in the right place I'm going to bring him down just a little bit here make him be just a little bit lower getting rid of his neck and head where I have it marked in there okay and he should really be more down here I think because he is closer to the he is closer to the viewer and I might change them around when I get them back to the studio I can't believe how fast the time goes by when we get together I really can't just seems like it flies and I know I'm running out of time here so I don't really have the time to make the adjustments that I might make when I get back but I don't want I they're looking to me like they're a little bit like one two three and so I think what I'm going to do and I'm just going to go ahead and do that now I'm just going to block this swan out block him out and I'm going to make him overlap his buddy over here okay so now we'll just have to get the water action going again okay and I want him to be like he's further away and this this guy here he's he's going away from us so we're seeing his tail right there and then I want this guy here I think I'll have him overlap his friend here and then he'll come down here and he'll come up and there there we go so we'll have those two overlapping I think that'll be nice and I'm just going to take without too much I'll do here and see if I can make a swan for you okay now this one's smaller so we have to be a little more careful we'll take some blue cross here and make him a little bring him down in the water just a little bit I want to bring this guy down in the water his reflection down in the water too a little here we go and now this one here on him and the nice part of this is that I can always come in with the blue to get my shape right if I want this one's neck to be a little narrower or I want him to be a little smaller I can do that with by coming in from the outside in that always helps a little bit but there we go all right now yeah that that doesn't look too bad okay we get the idea that there's a couple of swans there except his head isn't quite right there we go um yeah I like the swans in there a lot I think they add a lot to the picture um to the painting and the swans are journeying down the Shannon river in Athlone they are all part of the experience the wonderful marvelous experience of going to Ireland I hope I get back there someday I truly do it was just a wonderful trip and see if I kind of beat my brush on the canvas I can kind of get this guy's little bit of this guy's texture and feel and maybe the water's even yeah his little neck is coming down here there we go and we just need a little bit of orange on the bill is that what a swan's mouth is called I'm not sure that's the trouble see I always I never pay attention to what things the names of things are I don't know just as long as I can paint them that's all that's important to me it's just a shape or a color of value a temperature it's not I don't know about the thing there we go they're pretty big pretty big snouts on these guys see let's take that in just a tad there there we go don't want him to look like Donald duck okay and then they do have just that little tiny bit of black on them that's right up in here okay well that doesn't look too bad maybe just a little more of a highlight on the rock to kind of liven that up a little bit over here whoops I don't want that don't want that there we go more life up in here okay there they are the three swans on the Shannon river and like I said I'll take that back to the studio and work on it a little bit but I think that it is pretty close to being done I'm pretty happy with it I really enjoy this time with you today it's it's such a treat to be able to be here and have you watching me as I create make my journey across the canvas thank you so much for joining me once again this is Kitty Lynn Klisch and you've been watching painting journeys be sure and catch the next episode where we'll see the the Shannon river completed and I will be taking us to a new place in Ireland and I know you're going to really like it I'm going to take you inside of a true Irishman's house so until then bye bye for now thank you so much for joining me


students. So today we are going to discuss about students with sensory disabilities. So the objectives of this particular unit is to identify the various types of sensory disabilities. Secondly, to discuss how to assess the performance of the various types of students with sensory disabilities. Third, to describe the needs of the students with respect to their learning characteristics. And lastly, to explain the specific strategies to meet their needs in the students. So now, coming to the introduction, we will be able to understand what you mean or exactly what is the definition of sensory disability. So as we know about we have various senses. So when the senses such as sight, hearing, smell, touch, taste and spatial awareness of a person is prepared, then he or she may be called a person with sensory disability or sensory impairment. The term sensory impairment is mainly used to refer to the people or the persons with either hearing impairment or visual impairment or both hearing impairment and visual impairment. The extent of which may vary from various person to person. A person need not to have full loss of senses to be sensory impaired. Sensory impairment encompasses hearing loss including whole range, visual loss including blindness and partial sight and multi-sensory impairment. So now, what do you mean by multi-sensory impairment? So multi-sensory impairment means having diagnosed visual and hearing impairment with at least mild loss in each modality or deafness. Students suffering from these types of disabilities are called student with sensory disability. Now, coming to the classification, how the students with visual impairment and low vision can be classified? So it can be classified into three categories like mild, moderate and severe. What do you mean by mild? Mild is where the students with visual impairment and low vision can read relatively large characters. The students with visual impairment and low vision have no difficulty in identifying shapes, colour and brightness. Coming to the moderate, students with visual impairment and low vision can tell various shapes and colours of objects and can distinguish between brightness and darkness. The students with visual impairment and low vision can only read characters with larger sights and broader scope. Coming to the severe classification, students with visual impairment and low vision can only distinguish more obvious changes in related to brightness and darkness. Students with visual impairment and low vision may not see anything or can be told as completely blind. Now, coming to the needs of learners with visual impairment and low vision. So learners with visual impairment and have unique educational needs. So filtering the needs learners require specialised services like books and materials require specialised services like books and materials in appropriate media which includes trail as well as specialised various equipments are present and technology with a sure equal specialised curricula is also required to enable them to most effectively compete with their peer groups or peers we can say in school ultimately in the society. There are some educational needs for a visual impairment if the learners have any type of problems. If the learners have vision loss these or her all-round development may be disturbed therefore at first it is very much essential to give proper attention. Secondly, select and use of the appropriate learning medium is very much essential and it's a very important task of a teacher to identify the students or their needs of learners especially with visual impairment and low vision. Thirdly, prepare plan programs for training in reading and writing. Fourthly, carefully handle the appropriate assistive devices and lastly acquire the techniques of orientation and reading. Now coming to the assessments of students with visual impairment and low vision. Assessing the learner's strengths and weakness is one of the most important prerequisites in planning a learner's educational program. So following we can see are some of the main three areas of assessment. So first one is assistive technology assessments. Second is functional vision assessment and third is learning media. So what do you mean by what is functional vision assessment? A variety of evaluation techniques which test the child's view of vision and visual efficiency in daily activities are called functional vision assessment. The assessment is made over a number of sessions to determine how the child access is all her visual environment such as what is the distance to be maintained from the chalkboard or what print size she or he is able to take. Contribution from the child's orientation and mobility instructor is helpful. A certified teacher of the students with visual impairment also needs this assessment. So that's all in this particular video. Thank you.


Morning kids, good afternoon. I'm Mike, you're you, and welcome to my training vlog. I look kinda good in this lighting. You guys like this? Thumbs up or comment below.    And then all of a sudden, now you're 32 and Phantom Menace is kinda dope again. I'm not speaking for me. I've always thought Phantom Menace was dope. Jar Jar Binks has turned up. Young Annie's way better than teenage Annie. Padawan Obi-Wan is the inspiration for my look. But for some reason, the culture said that those movies sucked. When in truth, they don't. They're a little more like child friendly than the original three obviously. But they're good. And rant. So today's a body building day.  I messed up my sticker. It's launch week fam. Things have been absolute chaos in here. So launch week means counting inventory, taking product photos, updating the website and then promoting marketing plus all the fulfillment. We actually just got new orders in. I'm gonna have to fill them right in the mouth. I know that sounded like a weird flex. We could edit that out but I was literally just looking at the computer. So I appreciate all the support man.  Every single launch we break records. And that feels good. It feels good that you guys got my back.  And so I'm doing my best to not only make the designs, logos, graphics sick but to literally make the best quality clothing I can. A lot of our stuff's custom cut and sew which means that it's not just a blank T that we print on. Do we use blanks? Yeah. I'm not a magician. But I use different higher quality blanks that I can find that I researched that I sample to really push the limits of what athletic gear or life gear it looks like. So the fact that it seems like your guys has feedback and hit me on Twitter, hit me on Instagram with your feedback testimonials because it means a lot and I appreciate you. Couple items are running low. Couple T's, dad hats, shorts are running a little bit low. So if you want to snag them 3SB.co again it's a back and bicep day fam.  I'm going to hit one hammer strength, one chin up, two bicep movements, two tricep movements, one with my elbow far away from my midline, one with my elbow on my midline for both movements and that's kind of the goal. One heavy, one light, heavy being dictated by the rep scheme. I'm going to go six to eights on one of them and 10 plus on the other. Proximity to failure is the goal on my hypertrophy day. So this is only hypertrophy goals. So I'm trying to push my back and arms. I want big arms. I never had big arms and I want big arms. I've been on Instagram, it's time I get big arms. So we want to get close to failure on some of these movements. So I'll take one or two sets to warm up, get some blood going, get some volume in and then one or two sets I'm going to go near failure. I can, even if I'm cheating a little bit, it's okay. If I'm getting this mind muscle and I'm really feeling that muscle close to failure we'll call it mission success. So I'm going to eat a little bit of sour strips but anything shout out to Max for sending him over to get a little carbs in me. Drink some Wawa on my new Wawa bottle and we're going to hit the workout in probably about a half an hour. Come along with me. It's a bodybuilding arm day. Again, there's many, many ways to program your hypertrophy. Slowly gathering volume over time, a little bit more reps, little bit more weight, proximity, how close you get to failure. You want to push that to a nine or 10. Progressively overloading over time. For me, the frequency, because it's still kind of secondary to my strength, I want to build my strength back, not that that won't build muscle with the compound movements, but that's slight priority. I'm just hitting kind of upper back, lats and arms twice a week. Again, those get some, you know, non-direct work from deadlift, squat, bench, my triceps, biceps, et cetera. But right now it's just what fits my schedule. And again, what is priority to you may not be priority to me and life, business, family, take priority over my gym. And so right now I can fit in five days and get good work. Yesterday I didn't get in work. We had to do extra photo shoots for the launch. I had to pack in Fafil for the launch day, which took me, you know, five hours. It's just me and the boy Kyle going ham. And so it takes time out of my training, but that's my priority of life. If it's not your priority of life, by all means party on, boogie on. But when I do get an hour, when I do get two hours, I like to be as optimal as I can, not only with my programming, but with my attention, intention and attention. Intention of a workout and attention to the workout. Very, very important. Everything you do, it's about intention. Why am I doing something? And sometimes that intention can be fun. I'm doing reverse band deadlifts because it's fun and I'm gonna do a block there and still progress. Cool, as long as you know the intent of it. If the intent is to explode your deadlift on it, well, you know, it's not necessary. But if we have the intent, if we have the goal, we have the intent and then we have the execution. That's it for me fam. 3sb.co, grab your clothes. My favorite fit. I was wearing my favorite fit today. I like this green. I rock the spring groove fit. I got the gray hoodie, the gray shorts. I've been living in them. I think the quality will really impress you. I hope you guys enjoy and I'm excited to see you rocking them. So tag me, Twitter, Instagram, Salamico2ks, twitch.tv slash Salam Mike and my KKE. Four days a week. I'll see you all there.