nt me to run those together? Here, let's put this one with it. This is glass as well. So three really pretty bracelets. Let's run these. This is going to be number 91. Keep refreshing. Yep, it's not letting me grab it. Thanks, guys, for your patience. What not?  I don't know if it's because of my auction items or what. Okay, 15 seconds running for five for the three bracelets. This one is glass. It's blue. It's beautiful. You're going to get this one as well. And you're also going to get this one. They are beautiful. Five dollars, all three bracelets. That's a deal. I would usually sell these separate. So TT girl, nice pickup, honey. Hey, Atrena. Thanks, everyone, for coming in. This is, I think it's just plastic. What's going on here? Oh, is it two necklaces? Well, that's interesting. Yeah, they're different. I thought they were all one. Maybe that's glass. Let's see. Yeah, that's glass. Let's see if this one, this one's plastic. Okay, so this one is glass, but it needs untangled. And this one is plastic. Do you want me to run these together or separate? This one needs untangled. Here, let's do this. Let's put these with it, too. Okay, so you're going to get three for one. One is a plastic necklace. One is a glass necklace that needs untangled. And then we have the pierced earrings. So it's going to be number 92. We're going to do five dollars, all three pieces for one money. They are pretty. And here we go. 15 seconds running for five. This one is glass, but needs untangled. This one is plastic. It's long. And then you also get the fun little pierced earrings with it. And Amy is winning. Thank you, Amy. And you got it, honey. Thanks so much. Number 92. Okay, I see a big feather thing. Anybody into feathers? What this is? Is this a, it's on a ribbon. Do you wear it on your head? Is it like a headband? Or is it a necklace? Is it a necklace or a headband? I think it might be a headband. I think you wear it on your head, right? Yeah, that's kind of fun, isn't it? All right, well, we'll go ahead and run that. Or hat. The ribbon has a knot in it, so you'll have to get that out. This is going to be number 93. It started at three bucks. It's super cute. It is, I think it goes on your head. It'd be cute for like a dress-up party, like if you're going somewhere fancy. What do they, what do they call those parties? Masquerade type deal. I'm struggling to get things to load tonight. There it is. Okay, 15 seconds running for three. Oh yeah, you could probably wear it on your neck. Yeah, like as a necklace. Yeah, it's pretty cute. And it's got this, or you could make it a brooch. Oh, that'd be pretty to make it a brooch. Take it off the cord and make it a brooch. That'd be stunning. Fiona likes it. Thanks, Fiona. All right, let's look down and see what else we have. That's pretty. You want to see what that is? Let me get this in the bag. And then we'll see what that orange inlay is. That's really pretty. You think that's copper on the back? It's just a corded, maybe leather wood, so to say. It says Alikon, A-L-I-K-H-A-N. Alikon, New York. All right, let's run it. Brass. Okay, I don't know what it is. Alikon. Anybody ever heard of that? It's really pretty. It's got some, maybe shell inlay. 15 seconds running for five. Guys can look it up. A-L-I-K-A-H-N. I think it was, Amy likes it. Thanks, Amy. You got it, honey. Thank you. Anybody like this thing? This is this brand. I don't know what that says, but it looks like enamel. Oh, this is pretty. I think that might be stone. Not 100% sure. It's pretty though, isn't it? Whatever it is. Here's the back. Here, I'll put it on. Oh, that's cute. That is cuteness right there. You think it's stone? Let's run this one. You think that sounds like glass? Those are so small, it's hard to tell. Glass or stone? I'm not sure. I'm not sure, guys. I'm not sure on that one. It's definitely stone, you think. Unsure what it is, guys. 15 seconds running for five. It's really pretty, whatever it is. Look at that. That is beautiful. No takers on that one? All right, no problem. Let me know if you want me to bring it back. It's beautiful. All right, do you want to look at some earrings? A little earring bundle? I see amethyst and adventurine on silver, too. Oh, for the one I just ran? Okay, so these are green. They've got some imperfections on them. They're little clip-ons. Oh, what did they say? Patent and pending. That might be for this class, but you could paint them. So we're going to run all these together. You got these clip-ons here. They're running from me. These cuties. This one right here, these are on, they've got imperfections all over them. So again, this would be something you could craft with. They're cute, but they're screwbacks and clips, screwback clips, but the balls have imperfections. And then these right here are missing some of these dangles, but you could use these dangles for something else if you wanted. I think there are supposed to have every other one, so missing some dangles. So we're going to just call this a crafter's lot. I would say these two are probably wearable, but we'll call it a crafter's. All right, here we go. Again, guys, sorry, keep reloading. Okay, 15 seconds, $3. It's running all one money. They are crafters. These two are good to wear. These need painted and these need some love, and then these are missing some balls, but it's a good crafter's lot if you like clips. No clippers. Let's see what else we got. Here is an example of the little butterflies that are in the buy it now. If you type in butterfly, these are brooches. I have these listed at $3 a piece. They come on this little card and in plastic. You'll see it in the buy it now, but you can add these to your order. They're just springs. They're fun.  I have silver tone and gold tone and they're $3 in the buy it now. If you guys want to take a look at that and add those to your order, this looks like it could be hematite. Oh gosh, that's hard. Hematite and then this pretty little glittery thing.  If anybody likes that. So yeah, you just go to the buy it now ring bottom right. Okay, let me run this one real quick. Number 97. I'm going to run this for $3 and then ring. It's a ring. Like a ring. Okay. Okay, give me just one second. What's it look like? Can you tell me what it looks like? Okay, 15 seconds on this one by the pearls. Okay. Oh, I see it. Okay. This I believe is hematite and a little glittery ball running for three. Okay. Thanks for taking a look. I've got lots of cool items under the auction tab also if you guys are interested in anything. Let me know a number and I can run it. Oh, I think this is the one you're talking. Is this what you're talking about? It's got a lot of wear on it. I don't think it's supposed to be that color, right? Yeah, see it's supposed to be silver, I think. Is it silver tone with like a copper or something under it? I don't know, it's not marked. I don't know what that is on top. It sounds like some sort of glass. Do you want me to run it for the stone? Can you get that out of there?  You'd probably just have to bend it. I don't know what that is. Does anybody want me to run it for the stone or glass? Okay. It's really pretty, whatever it is, but I just don't know. I've got these little elephants, little elephant earrings. Let me know. This is one of those earrings that a climber, it climbs your ear. Anybody like those? It opens right here. This goes in the bottom of your ear and this clips it onto the top. They're called climbers. This has rhinestones. Let's see, how does this? It looks modern, but it's pretty. Anybody like that? I can put it on the bus for you. Go ahead and run that. It's going to be number 98. You guys are welcome to make offers on anything under the buy it now. Yeah, it's pretty, isn't it? We're going to run it for $5, 15 seconds. It's running for five. It's beautiful. It's blue and rhinestone. It is more of a modern class, but yeah, it's pretty. Look at that blue. Nobody on that one. That one was pretty. Okay. All right. Is there anything under the auction tab that anybody wants me to run? I got this fun bracelet. I guess you wear it like this. That's a party. Anybody like that? I mean, circle city there. Here is a, this type of seed bead necklace. If anybody wants me to run it, let me know. Here is this type of clasp. And it's got faux pearls. Anybody like that one? Faux pearl necklace. It is pretty. It's got a vintage clasp on it. All right. Here we go. 15 seconds, running for five. It's got the pearl, faux pearl, I believe they're faux. Didn't love them together, but I think they, there it is. If anybody likes it, Clio is winning. Thank you. Yeah. Very pretty. I also have this one. It's kind of stiff, but it has the same style of clasp, but there is just no wiggle room. They're not knotted in between and they are smooth. So it looks like this. So it's a faux pearl necklace. Anybody like that one? No. Here is this one. It's got the same clasp. Now this one, this one's knotted in between. Or no, it's not. No, it's not, but it does have some give and it's smooth as well. Do you want me to run these two together? This one doesn't have any give. It's kind of stiff, but this one does. See how they just lay different? I'll go ahead and run these together. If anybody likes it, welcome in everybody. Thank you. Let's see. This is going to be number 100 and it is running for 15 seconds, $5. Anybody likes it? Ooh, that's cute. Laurie likes it. Thank you, Laurie. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. I am out of numbers again. Okay. So here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to go through some of the items that are all that. Here are some little bracelets. These will be great for Easter. You've got three that look like this and then this one here that looks like this. Run them for $3, 15 seconds. So you got four bracelets. This one and then these three. Super cute. Laurie likes it. Thank you, Laurie. And then I have this pretty little, I don't know if it's glass or what it is. It's untested. I don't see any markings on it, but it's just, you'd put it on a chain. It's number 87. It's running for $3. That looks like that. I should have my husband test it. See what it is. That might help you guys determine. Oh, Amy's going to get TT girls in there. Thank you. Let me know what it is if you test it. Maybe just glass or I don't know. Thank you so much. I have this cute little necklace. It is a seed bead necklace. This does have a little bit of wear on the clasp, but you wear it like this. It's super cute. It's running for 15 seconds, $3 if anybody likes it. Amy's winning. Thank you, honey.  I don't know if you'll like it. It's more modern, but it's really pretty. Here's the clasp and it looks like this. It's glass, but it is on a modern thing on that one again, just in case. If not, no worries, honey. I thought it was pretty. It's running for five if anybody likes that one. Thank you. It's pretty. And Amy, did you see this bracelet? Were you here for this? I don't know if it's stone, but it was really pretty. Does anybody want me to run this? I'll just run it again just in case. 15 seconds running for five. If you're not interested, no worries. I thought it was cute. I mean, it sounds like stone to me, but not 100% sure, honey. It's pretty though. Thank you so much. How about these? Anybody interested in these dangles? Rhinestone dangles. Feeding your cats. That's okay, honey. Running for 15 seconds. TT girl likes them. Thank you. Purple ceramic necklace. Being amill one, honey? Not sure. Trying to think of what... Okay, just a second. I can hold. This is the only thing I can think of. This one. It is... I don't know what brand this is. Put it on here for you and show you. Just looks like that. It's got some shell on it. I mean, it's... I think this is just plastic and enamel. I mean, it's cute. I'd do it for three.  Does anybody want me to run it for three? Just let me know. I've got this big thing. Anybody like this? I think it's just wood and plastic. And it's on this big chain. It's wood and plastic. It looks like that. Let me know if anybody likes it. I have this little princess thing. I can't tell. It looks like this. Is she missing rhinestones? I don't know if she is missing rhinestones or if there's just space. Like, see right here? See, there's nothing there. There's nothing there. There's nothing there. There's nothing there. But there may not be room for rhinestones. Right there there's nothing. I don't know. Does anybody like this? It's on this chain. I think it'd make a cute brooch if you made it a brooch. But I can't tell if there's rhinestones missing or if that's just how it's made. Anybody want me to run that for three? All right, Fiona. It may need some rhinestones. I can't really tell. It may just be made that way, honey. I'm going to put TLC just in case. 15 seconds running for three. It might be missing some rhinestones if you're just coming in. Softballs, did you see it might be missing some rhinestones, honey? Just want to make sure. Okay, Fiona's going to get that one. Thank you, honey. All right, let's see what else we got. I have this unique piece. I feel like it's been, it's had some, maybe somebody's made some adjustments to it. But this is like a crackled glass. It's really pretty. But I can kind of see where it's been glued on. And the faux, or the faux pearls, I don't know. It looks kind of rough, but it could be old. I don't know if anybody's interested in this or not. It's kind of a TLC piece. I know some of you collect stuff like this, so I just want to ask. I'm going to run it for $3. It's a crafter's item, but I just thought that was really pretty. That glass right there. I don't know if it could be cleaned up or not. Is anybody interested in this little bunny? It says, proud grandma of some bunny special. Could wear it for Easter. Anybody a grandma that your grandkids would get a kick out of this? $3 if anybody likes it. No one that one? All right. Anybody see anything under the auction tab? Anybody want a vintage shoehorn? That's kind of fun. I hope you put your shoes on. It says, Apple shoe store, Labanen, Indiana, and it says something on the bottom. I'll just run it in case somebody wants it. I thought it was kind of cool. Nostalgia. There we go. $3. That's running. I'll probably put it in my buy it now if it doesn't sell. I know this is a jewelry show. It's kind of a random item. But I know some of you like vintage advertising. So what about three bunnies? We got this bunny in a flower pot, this little bunny, and this bunny's broken. It's the same as this, but you can see it's broke. But you could maybe craft with it. So I went ahead and left it in there just as a crafter's choice. 15 seconds. It's running if anybody likes it. Easter editions. This is a gold tone leaf. It's a pendant. 15 seconds running for three. It looks like a real leaf, but I don't know if it is or not. Awesome finds 24. Welcome in. Welcome in, everybody. Does anybody see anything under the auction tab that you would like me to run? Anything? Let's see. It's not. I think I'm going to call it. Call it a night. I do like this bracelet. It's got the rhinies. It's a stretch running it for three. 15 seconds. I like this one. It's gold and silver tone, and it's got rhinestones all over it. Thanks, Amy. You too, honey. This one might be glass, and I think it was marked gold filled or something on the clasp. Remember, I'll have to look here, my phone. Yeah, 14 karat gold filled, and that might just be the clasp, but these are I think stone or glass, and I don't know what the spacer beads are, but it looks like an anklet to me, and it's running for five. It's kind of a clearish color, maybe off white. I'm not really sure how to describe it. Bags. I don't know what that means, Lori. Run for three. I'm interested. Not tonight, I don't think, because I ran all these other things. I'll be on Tuesday. Tuesday, I'll probably do some. Okay, this one for three. All right. That's a great deal if that's gold filled. 14 karat gold filled, three bucks, and that's what it says. Soft Pals is winning, and I think it's glass or stone. Yeah, it's going on, it's almost 2 AM here, so I'm trying to just finish up here. Did anybody like this brown vintage necklace? It's plastic. It's kind of a fun necklace. Yeah, honey. I try to do crafters at the end of each night, but I'm feeling a little tired, and it's a lot of work to do the crafters. So let's shoot for Tuesday on that. Please remind me at the beginning of the show to do the crafters items at the end so I can allot some time for that. Yeah. I also have this little, this is glass, I think, and it's on this chain. I was just trying to get some of these items out of the auction tab, and then I'm going to, if not, I'm going to probably put them in the buy it now. 15 seconds on this. It's cute little pendant. It really hits the light nice, depending on which way you hit the light. Three bucks on that. Did it run? No interest in that one? Okay. All right, guys. Thank you so much. Let's see who's on. Is there any offers on anything? Anybody want to make any offers on anything in the buy it now? I know you guys, some of you have free shipping, so I can give you a minute if you want to take a look at the buy it now. So I can run anything under the auction tab or take requests for the buy it now, but I am getting ready to hop off here for the night. All right. Thank you for the follow. Let's see who's on. Rhinestone heart set. Where's that, honey? The rhinestone heart set? Is it under the auction or the buy it now? I don't see it under the auction. Can you give me an item number? There should be a number beside it. You might be under the buy it now. You got to be under the auction. You don't see a number. Okay. That might be in my buy it now then. Does it have a price? Does it say buy it now? Okay. So you can hit make offer if you want to make an offer on that. I don't have those items. They're over, they're kind of set up like a marketplace listing, so you just go in and look at the photos and you can make an offer if you want. Just let me know. There's 27 items under the auction tab and the buy it now items are available for offers. If anybody wants to do any of that, let me know if you do. That way I can wait, otherwise I'm going to raid someone. Am I good to raid? You guys good? Rhinestone set $8. Do you want to make an offer on that, honey? It's not letting you make an offer. Okay. Some of the items don't have make offer. Let me see. Product actions, edit. No, it says allow offers. So it has offers. Here, let me pin it for you. Is this the right item? Is this the one? Does it let you make an offer now? What do you want your offer to be? What's your offer, honey? Oh, nope. I got your offer. I just got it. Okay. I got it. Okay. Yep. Anything else? Anybody else want to make any offers? I've got lots of really cool items in the auction tab or buy it now tab. Let me know. Yep. I got it. Anybody else? I'm $7 off from my goal of the night. Now I want to hit it. Let me find something else. I want to hit my goal. Here, let's do this little bundle real quick. Okay. We got this bracelet and this one that you tighten like this. I think it's glass. I don't know if that's going to stay tight or not, but you could repurpose it. This one has a little heart on it. I think that's glass as well. This is just plastic. This is one of my bundles. This one has a little cowboy hat on it. This one is just plastic and then this is just a cute little plastic necklace. This is a bundle. I'm going to run this for $5. Here we go. $15, $5, all one money. There's some glass in there. There's some plastic. There's some wood. Cute little bundle. Atrena likes it. Thank you, honey. Let's do this one. Okay. This is a plastic necklace. It is vintage. It's on this clasp right here. This one is just a vintage necklace. It's white with spacer beads and this is this little cute necklace. It's got a chain in the back and it looks like this. So you're getting three necklaces, one money. This is number 102. 15 seconds. If anybody likes that one, got this necklace, this necklace, and that one. No interest on that. I'm a dollar away from my goal. I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Does anybody like seed bead necklaces? This one's pretty cool. That's doubled. It's a long one. So that is doubled. Seed bead necklace. It is running for five, 15 seconds running for five. So this one is long. Long and really pretty. Look at those colors. There it is up close. No seed bead people. All right. I'm determined guys. I'm a dollar off from my goal. What about the plastic bracelet? Anybody into vintage plastic? Looks like this. I have these two. They look like this. They might have been earrings. They look like they have a shell inlay. Anybody interested in those? I've got these two stones that are just Tiger's Eye. I think something broke. You interested in those? You want me to run those? They're pretty big chunks actually. 15 seconds running for two. Thank you, honey. I'm going to throw in the cute heart. Thank you for helping me reach my goal tonight by buying that last item. I appreciate you. I know you did that to help me. Thank you. Okay. All right, guys. Let's raid. I'm going to send you guys to Heartland Picker. So show them some love with a follow and I'll see you guys Tuesday night for an untangling. It'll be a fresh batch. Thank you all for the support and I appreciate you all greatly. All right. Have a great night. Thanks for watching.


We've been over. Well, you know I got at least get my man A few minutes. I got a genuine ain't a show without this make-up He bout to come out Your own band playing behind Yes, sir. Yes, sir. I Like how we got one speaker. We used to have a whole sound system With the rebuilding phase You only got one speaker my boy.  What's the strip club down this way? What's the strip club out this way Diamond diamond that's the one I'm shoot up the diamonds very quick and I'd be back We almost in there. I think it out this year. What you on?  Hell no, I think we had too much fun on it in the beginning People was just not showing who they really were you like I can't believe it. What do you know now, you know Now you know what's going on now motherfuckers don't want to show you how they really are. They try to switch to the ride God damn. Yeah, well, that's how you wake up the room Now we got to speak for both of them. We got to speak That's it. What a lot like you can't get rid of this guy. Hey, man. I'm almost blue.  We went from the trap to the backyard. Uh-huh, but this temporary though Sad like right now.  Because you know, we're gonna move into the new studio, bro We over here 85 ways Make it ready They dare show said that and I was like, hold on wait I fence ain't straight. Let's do another day, but we couldn't so we had it come this way We in the little we're in the little hey, it's temporary man. We're beautiful cuz it's ours man Yeah, it belongs to us.     Don't take me. They go nowhere. What's it? It don't matter. We ain't here today.  I'm talking about black like having a car y'all yard And don't run no more, but it got all the baby clothes in your storage, right?  Right.  No cap. No cap. Right. I'm talking about for everybody who grew up in the hood And your grandma was loose Everybody grandma in the hood got one baby daddy that they don't want to talk about It's always your uncle daddy, and he always got his own daddy. Ain't that crazy, right? How he do that? I had a twin kid. He got his own dad. He got his own dad That crazy From on loose. I'm talking about We bout to keep it so black so black and we got a very special guest in the house with us today Now I don't need to know where to start. I start with first of all is an activist Author producer producer film maker a hell of a writer.  I feel like he's very important to the culture and what we're going and Got in the conscience of all of that.  How did all this start? Man, I started doing the hidden color series. Well, let's go back because I've done stuff way before One of the main was I gotta say the Mac within yes the Mac within I read this book when I was in middle school Man and this is still one of the best books that I've ever read because it teaches you how to empower yourself as a man The things that you need to know as a man not just from what you need to do in regards to your interactions with women But what you need to do with in regards to your interactions within yourself, right? Like when you go on big platforms to try to discredit this With the white people they always try to make it seem like it was pimping and pandering No, that type of bullshit right and the book was nothing like that right though We have the Mac within and before the Mac within we had a book called the art of Mac and I wrote the book in 99 came out in 2000 huge best-selling book so a quarter of a million copies Do it I wrote that book at the time you had a bunch of books out like men are for Mars women are for Venus All of these relationship books that was telling men corny shit that really didn't work So at the time I said I'm gonna tell dudes real relationship advice from a real guys perspective Unapologetically, so I said I'm gonna have a book called the art of Mac in Talking about how to Hala how to get your shit together how to carry yourself as a man from a lot of the street perspectives All right, and people respected where I was coming from women got that book more than men at one point Women wanted to see where how we really thought as men because when dudes write books for women They know dudes are kind of putting on a facade and they know they're pandering and women don't like A nigga who's pandering I've seen some of you guys your live shows when you guys are keeping the 100 The women fans are into it more than the dudes women respect the dude who's gonna be brutally honest with them And that's what I was doing with my books. It took off and I Created a whole lame and the whole pick-up artist lane started because of that Then I morphed into talking about Relationships as it relates to race right because all of that ties into the same thing too Around 2010 I started producing a film called hidden colors, right? And I started doing that because at the time a Lot of the movies that were out Like the blind side to help the butler stuff like that and movies that were Disempowering I was save you.  There's some hatred There's some bigotry now. Let's put a name on it There's a certain group within the dominant society who practice something called white supremacy racism Let's call that out and then let's take it from there.  We have five volumes. We did hit colors one two three four five Then I did a movie called 1804 about the history of Haiti My last film was a film called buck breaking Uh-huh that talked about the sexual exploitation that has been done to black people and the sexual agendas So that one was a huge seller.    You see There's so much hidden history everywhere you go. It's hidden. We're in Atlanta right now You go into the heart of Atlanta. There's a statue of Henry Grady And you hear people in Atlanta say that they're Grady babies. It's Grady Hospital Grady school Henry Grady was known for being a white supremacist His job was to come down to the south and to codify the south in the north after the Civil War saying hey look We're all white. We have to maintain white supremacy and keep these Negroes down. That is our job And that's the only thing he's known for a lot of folks don't know that he's not a politician He wasn't a Bank owner. He wasn't no businessman He was just known as the white supremacist of his day and there's a big-ass statue in the middle of Atlanta of Henry Grady You see this hidden history all over the place. I was just in Kennesaw the other day I have a museum. We just bought a museum in Los Angeles called the Hidden History Museum People don't understand outside of Atlanta. It's a whole different damn world The rest of Georgia is not like Atlanta. So we went 30 minutes outside of Atlanta. We went to Kennesaw We were looking for some artifacts for our museum. There's a clan Store right in Kennesaw they frame it as a Civil War store, but inside the store they have clan memorabilia they have Nigger dolls literally with the word nigger dolls for sale in this thing Right in Kennesaw and they've been trying to get rid of this store and get it up out of there And this just showed yeah, it's been on the news So this just shows how deeply ingrained anti-black racism is and how close it is to us And we don't really see it like we should it's surprisingly a lot of places like that I did a thing up in in Tennessee Yeah, and it's this guy calls himself the father of the Confederacy and he has a store where he has all types of Racist memorabilia and all types of I mean pictures of black people that you can come by and all types of stuff that's Available and open the Klan was started in Tennessee. Yeah, I know they send Bethan Bedford Forrest Nathan Nathan Forrest Yeah, yeah, they started the plan out there in Tennessee So they real big on that that that memorabilia and that imagery and they sell a lot of this stuff on the underground A lot of these trinkets of black folks getting lynched and hung and they actually still sell body parts of black people because remember when black People were getting lynched they would sever the body parts and sell them on the underground when Nat Turner got killed They would sell his body parts and they boiled his his his body and sold the oil The family of Nat Turner just got his skull back a few years ago because they were selling his skull on the underground So these people they do some real sick stuff out of you man. 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That's a man now Speaking of the hidden colors movies you in my opinion are responsible for introducing to the world to a lot of the people that we know now Yeah, that uh, you know the people that we look to as you know Influences in the in the world community run of that like how was your your your Vetting process and finding these people did you have one or did you just let them come to you? Um, I looked out for when I first started doing hidden colors the way I was gonna do it at first It was just gonna be me on film talking about history and the film was gonna be called secret niggas So I said that might be a little too rough I Said I want this to play in school So let me be you know it cuz if you look at the hidden colors films most of them We don't do a lot of profanity at them hidden colors five We do a little cursing in there, but most of them is very clean because I want them in schools So I said let me do let me change the name Let me call it hidden colors and let me get a lot of scholars that I study that I like a lot of these Scholars were popular on the underground scene, but they just kind of almost retired to a certain degree So I started getting some of the people that I loved and respected like Dr. Francis Cress Welsing Who's a genius and who's very underrated and we're doing a lot of things paying homage to her and our museum Because she wrote a book called the ISIS papers that really broke down Systematic white supremacy and how we need to understand the ISIS papers the keys to the color She was a brilliant psychiatrist up in DC my brother Chico's hometown And this sister was very controversial because she broke racism down and and made it simple by saying white supremacy and systematic racism is about genetic survival of the dominant society the the root of them practicing racism is for their survival because Interacting in mixing with black people the offspring is going to be black So in order to work that you have to control black sexuality. That's why when black people were lynched they were castrated That's why they had miscegenation laws that present prevented black people from marrying those in the dominant society So she broke that down and that woke up a lot of people then I started getting other scholars like dr. Cava brother James small brother Phil Valentine I Nars was in one of my things I had so many phenomenal people in the hidden colors series and it just took off from there So what started your journey what made you want to go this route to just enlighten black people on the real What's going on in real world? You know what cuz we needed it and we always say stuff like well Somebody needs to make a movie about our history see we get into that thing somebody needs to do this It would be good if somebody made a movie talking about the real Revolutionaries it would be good and nobody ever steps up and do it doesn't you know I'm saying so I said let me do it I know a little bit about Television when I was writing my relationship books I would do a lot of stuff with VH1 and MTV So I would look at a lot of stuff behind the scenes and kind of pick up some game and I said okay Let me just give it a shot I'll put together something and see how it goes and it just took off from there Well speaking the game man like I said I got it hard back on that book to Mac with them Just because it was so influential to me like yeah You know and then you talking about doing everything that you're doing for the black community like at that stage in your in your life And career what made you want to get that level of game out because you know that's one of the main rules Yeah, you know to be sold not to be told, but it's like you know you put it in the book and Gave it out pretty much to whoever wanted to you know have it Yeah, there's all you want to do that There's also a saying the game is for those who are worthy of receiving the game Because sometimes you give some game to a nigga who ain't really there mentally He'll take the game and fuck it up. He'll take it and revamp it and do some goofy with it. Yes, you understand really tell yeah Yeah, so when I wrote the book The Art of Mac and After time I was a single dude and me and my friends We would just kind of challenge ourselves using different techniques on how to deal with women in the clubs and the dating scene And I learned man the way you deal with women and the way you deal with Relationships, that's the way you deal with business if you straight up and down and you are headstrong in your relationships You're going to carry on that same mindset into your business dealings You can look at a dude and see how he does business by the way he treats his chick if he's a shady nigga beating on his broad and and Doing a little deceptive stuff. You can't really trust that nigga on some business shit You know I'm saying so the way we deal with business oftentimes coincide with the way we deal in relationships That's why it's all about how you carry yourself as a man That's the number one thing when it comes to dating and relationships because when I put the books out people always ask me Well, what are there any lines you can give me to say to women? I tell dudes all the time man.  I know are paranoid They're always looking over their shoulder and when you get in the game your next Mindset should be how are you going to cycle out the game?  Yeah, the Kennedys Trump Yeah, Trump's dad was out there at a whole house.  You have the Jones brothers and brothers up there in Chicago Who are the numbers runners? They were running numbers. They were the ones who? Basically gave the government the idea for the lottery the government gets a lot of ideas from us They weren't doing lottery.     Yeah, that was some heavy stuff. What happened?   I won't even say shock me but They would rape a lot of black men on plantations and that's something that's never talked about we talked about that in my movie Bug breaking this was very much so in Jamaica Jamaica was a slave breaking plantation if a slave didn't get his mind right they would send them to Jamaica They would rape brothers in Jamaica. That's why today Jamaicans hate homosexuality.  I used to make furniture out of black people. Yeah.  We created the modern doorknob We created the modern toilets we created the modern refrigerator when you look at light bulbs That was really created by a black man named Lewis Latimer They try to give it to Thomas Edison Thomas Edison was a a patent office guy.  Yeah. Yeah before Ford really got it popping you had some brothers in Ohio and I cannot think of their name right now But it was a black car company and these brothers made these cars by hand and These were some of the best-made cars in Ford Basically beat them out because Ford had a plan where he would mass produce the cars plus Ford was working with Our brother George Washington Carver and George Washington Carver was giving Henry Ford the game.   He's the father of bio engineering nobody was doing bio engineering meaning getting stuff from the earth and Converting that into chemicals that can be used in plants George Washington Carver was the first person to do that and He was Henry Ford's right-hand man He was giving Henry Ford all the game and there was a lot of black people who were giving these corporations the game It was a sister from North Carolina who created the first Maxi pads in America a lot of folks don't know that sanitary napkins as a sister created that and they stole that idea from her There's a black man. I think he was from Indiana. He created potato chips Yeah, there's another black man who created the modern macaroni and cheese. That was Thomas Jefferson slave brother named Hamilton. That was Sally Sally Heming's brother who created Modern mac and cheese. A lot of folks don't know that man. We've created so much stuff. So I don't I don't get Everybody Jane we're the 27. I'm telling you eight o'clock. 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Go to Netflix right now and search Andrew Santino cheeseburger That's Andrew Santino cheeseburger out now on Netflix And there's no way to prepare you for a prostate exam as a guy. There's not you may think I mean There's some guys out there that'll go. I know a trick. You're like well It's different than you think and for the first time in my life when I went to get a prostate exam I kind of understood what it might be like to be a woman to hook up with someone for the first time I did a little bit ladies like I got it a little bit Because I was in this cold uncomfortable room with no art on the walls. It was Very well lit for some reason.  Yeah, we're doing that in this new movie about the Seminoles the black Seminoles Hey goes bill. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you had a lot of brothers and sisters who were coming from Florida after the Seminole war They sent a lot of black people to Oklahoma. That's Indian territory. All right You had a lot of outlaws out there.  He was living with the Seminoles. They got the lone ranger from him Because he was a black Seminole. He was with the black Seminoles. He was a lawman. He was arresting people He was very thorough. He had an Indian sidekick. So they were like, yeah, we got a depict him in a show But we got to make him white, but we'll give him a black mask. All right So that's another part of the hidden history. They still a lot of shit from us Yeah, I read a book called the new Negro by Alan Lott and it's uh a book about the perspective of black people the new Negroes But it's it was written in 1924. I believe so all of the progressive Negroes that we know Now as legendary were young men in this book given their perspective to Duke Ellington's the all of these different people and To know that I didn't know I went to school in North Carolina And I didn't know that Durham, North Carolina was like the original black wall street. Absolutely. I had no idea like I'm thinking that black wall street was You know, it was the toast toast it right, but it was originally Durham, North Carolina It was so and in a lot of the buildings in Durham, North Carolina still named after these black people Doctors and lawyers and insurance company owners and and that's like what do you think is the reason they keep the real reason They keep that from us in school They don't want to give us That type of knowledge because they don't want to give us any ideas on how to replicate it There were black wall streets all over the country in California. We had on Los in Los Angeles We had Central Avenue. That was the black wall street of Los Angeles in Detroit. They had Hastings Street down in Miami They had a black wall street type of area, but what they would do they would destroy those areas purposely by building freeways next to If you go to any town any major town and see where the freeways are They were I can almost guarantee was a black town there and they use that freeway to undermine that that area So they've done all types of little deceptive stuff.  Yeah, I think they came up.  They built big businesses So they came in the city said hey these niggas are having too much fun We have to stop this so they did imminent domain They said we're just gonna take over the land and take control of it They did the same thing with Central Park Central Park used to be a black area. Yeah, I'm cynical village Cynical village in the domain. Let me just take it. Yeah, just take it They say the city needs this we're gonna just take what's the black lady named that they took the whole city of Los Angeles That's bitty Mason bitty Mason. Yeah, we were doing a lot of stuff on her in our museum That was a black woman who was a slave and the Mormons took her out to Los Angeles people don't understand, California They had slavery out there in California.  They just looked the other way So she was enslaved out there some black folks put up on game and said hey if you come out here This is technically a free state. You can get your freedom She ended up getting her freedom and then became the richest woman in California She built all types of businesses. She owned many of the streets. That's in downtown Los Angeles now So a lot of folks don't know about her. I've been trying to get a street named after me bitty Mason and people act like she Don't even exist. What is that? It was a young girl. That was a young black girl She was very young, but it's had a whole bunch of oil Sara rector that was in Oklahoma. Oh, yeah, this again They a lot of black people were moving to Oklahoma and they would just kind of throw them off on a lot Somewhere and they threw this sister and her family on a lot found out that this allotted land had oil under it So now this little girl like eight nine years old overnight became a millionaire Yeah multi-millionaire, so the city came in and say hey, we need somebody to oversee her money So then they started the finesse game with that So they always come up with little ways to undermine and finesse us And you were one of the first people I heard talk about the man. Yeah. Yeah the man that that's what they did on R. Kelly they put the man act on R. Kelly the man act was something that was for Jack Johnson Jack Johnson was out here.  Yeah, John's one of the coldest niggas ever.  I'm talking about when they still hear they God like this.   Yeah.   That's why with Bill Cosby. What about the good one of America shit?  Yeah, we got to get on cold with each other see other people are on cold Against us see when it comes to us we get off cold we get on this minority coalition We think we got to bring everybody into our mix and we got to share what little resources We have and then other people when they get their resources. They do not share with us So we have to have a certain survivalist selfishness that we Share our resources and keep our resources in house so that we can empower our group It's very important to get on cold to do that and you you were from DC We know DC was built and designed by a black man Benjamin Banneker Yeah, the black people were free first in DC What I don't know how many years it was but black people were free in DC before all the slaves were freed That's why DC wasn't originally a whole triangle when they freed the slaves early Virginia took a piece of land back That's why DC is shaped the way it is Mm-hmm, and you know they got the the Washington Monument that's supposed to symbolize the onk of Egypt in Africa That's so how they were designing DC based on Masonic Rituals and they get a lot of the Masonic stuff from ancient comedic knowledge and Moorish science that the Moors brought into Europe from Africa So they design a lot of stuff based on old black Knowledge that they hide into Masonic orders.  Yes, they do stay in a family. Yes, indeed Yes, indeed. Yes indeed. What's the city with a lot of black history? That's little no man We're all over the place man. There's so many cities out here that that has our history It's it's hard to even pinpoint man because I go to certain cities and I learned about the black history I remember I went to Buffalo and I found out Buffalo Buffalo was founded by black dude black dude founded Buffalo We know Chicago was founded by black guy a lot of these cities were founded by black people because During Western expansion white people couldn't really go into some of these hostile areas with some of these Native Americans They would have gotten killed. That's what a brother will invented hockey up there way Yeah, in Canada. Yeah, it was in Canada. Yeah. Yeah, brother's invented hockey up there in Canada Also black men the Buffalo soldiers, they became the first park rangers in the country The people taking care of the parks and all of that.   Yeah, they call them boring also Louisiana man. I'm speaking of sports New Orleans states, you know their logo the what's that the floor delice? What do they call that? I don't know the name. What am I Louisiana people? What's that called? It's the Floor delice. That's the name of it. That was the French You know, they were the slave owners down there Louisiana. That was a friend symbol that they would brand on black people who ran away Folks don't know that.   I said we shouldn't get cash No Boa theater the Rocky bad boy. That's what I'm calling. Make sure you grab those tickets and come check it out To come to your city don't worry about All right Chico being here January 13th 2023. This one excited man MGM Detroit. What up though, Detroit? I will be able to tell you already know nigga.  It's going down January 13th MGM Detroit going down. Make sure you get your tickets man Detroit.  So make sure you get your tickets Detroit.  Give it to us.     Yeah, I know a microwave Knowledge like you did it's clear as evidence we've been talking about it Yeah, so if black people were giving money as you say we should what would be the plan that you would draw out if you Could draw it out with all the things that you know in the history and the way that you've seen the things have gone What would you say we should do with the money when we got you can do anything you want with it?   You get them back rich. They gave them back the money We can't get one reparations though.  Hey, man To get this little reparation money is it should be up to that black family what they do with Financial literacy is a must Financial literacy is a must economics has to be taught in the household.   No DC if you got a check for two hundred and thirty thousand dollars, right? What would you do with the money? I won't tell nobody Everybody When they get the check and they gonna be like wait a minute Come on bring that little money If I was in the streets, I'm just letting you know this is me in two thousand They gave it to me two thousand eight. Yeah, I'm in the 10th grade. Mm-hmm. Let's see legend with two hundred and thirty thousand First of all, I'm dropping out of school I'm gonna give me a calm crayon list. I was made by Sam Rack. Give me a nice a crown Yeah, I'll pick up to the dope man. It's a list. I know I would buy a three-five.  Give me Nebraska I take give me three quarters of Nebraska. That's all I want I wouldn't be tax-free.  I'm great.    Yes. Yes. You see what he did you see how niggas is talk about him Come on, man. Now. I agree with Deion bouncing, right? I'm on that side of the fence I First look I was like look you want to stay with the HBCU keep making that hot keep building that up Keep giving shine to the HBCUs, but the thing is man They didn't pay my brother the way they needed to pay back. We have to pay our folks man I Know That's white people history But with Deion man, they weren't paying that brother He was using his own salary to donate to the some of the school programs He was bringing in his own sponsors the HBCUs.     Whoa He chicken on wins. He's in the cab. Whoa, so it's the same everywhere The pride that we have in the school So when somebody comes in and like Deion did and changes the culture to where when somebody comes to this HBCU and see these facilities.   We got resources if you did that with nothing We got Yep, yes, you did you also all the people that's complaining. What have you done for nothing? Know Now the responsibility fall back on the same people who criticize these the same people now We got it as a community We all got to go to these games and support all of these programs We can't just be Jackson State like it's gotta be everybody us as consumers. We have to spend our money with these programs We have to do that now we that's the part that's the that's gonna be left out That's the real uproar because now motherfuckers know oh now we got to do something But you know what?   We're a Friday February 17. We're back in an eight o'clock North Charleston Forming Arts Center in North Charleston, South Carolina.   I know how y'all get down in South Carolina What's up y'all sure girl extreme and it's sure girl's ready in the car and I got some really good news for y'all Yes, period y'all we are about to revamp our whole patreon We got so much new shit coming soon for y'all like we got to be doing challenges. We've got to be doing blog We really about to be dropping a lot of exclusive content for y'all So if one episode a week is not enough y'all about to get some more content on the back Yes, y'all be saying oh make episodes longer. I need twice a week Well, this is your opportunity to see us twice so we can also you kind of get you're gonna get a look into our lives No, what's on a personal level? So make sure y'all sign up at patreon.com backslash poor mind sign up today There's different tiers.  That's a buffalo What you're forgetting my brother hang me the can hang me the can my brother see you said red bull What does red bull give you?  You don't see because you're not looking I'm looking because when I look at the bull I see red and I see the bull there are two bulls they're fighting head to head that mean we're going to war forever That's what my brother now see red bull is a german company But we in america drinking german energy now the same people that own boss wagon hear me out Are the same people that put that shit in them skittles Did you go to the skittles debate right to the skills you know that all skittles are really the same flavor They just color them differently. Okay. Now. Let's go even deeper than that. Everybody knows who knows anything that chef boyardy was a black man Chef boyardy was the great grandfather of one dmc. That's what you didn't know now see you start taking it back Now see you don't even you didn't even realize that they have completely taken uncle being out of the grocery stores and my Now see what they're trying to do They've taken our auntie They've taken our uncle.   Now see in the in the early 90s card jack is what Now on pop now who makes your iPhone corn apple What's going on jack is corn was created by a black man. It was cultivated by a black man named pops So corn pops is a play on the corn that pops cultivated that we all eat today So They box was white for 75 years Hidden colors is not actually about color at all What is about it's about being hidden in a crayon box like the black crayon is always hidden It's not available for you to find when you open the box You have to move other white and red and blue and orange crayons around to find the black one That's what hidden colors is about this brother doesn't know anything Not here to argue I'm not here to argue with you, but I'm That's how it sounds man. That's prison babble.  Are you able to look and say I know Yes, of course. Have you ever been fooled?  Why are you just being so mean to the white people?  They try to paint you as this radical extreme Yeah, that's gonna happen, you know, that happens with any black person who's speaking prominently about issues because a lot of man We got to understand this. There's a lot of black folks Who didn't want to get off the plantation and don't want to get off the plantation now Even during slavery man, you had a couple of types of black folks The ones who would get the hell on up out of there and the ones who are perfectly fine What was happening on those plantations because that's all they knew right you understand So when we start telling black people we need to start working and building our own That's a lot of hard work It's easy just to sit up here and hey, I go work for this white man. I got it made I ain't got to come up with all of the bills and the zoning I go in and put it in my eight hours every day Get my drink on on the weekend.    You don't get just eight hours.  I don't see some baby Now now something that's always been hilarious to me that you do the coon train Look at the coons For a broken tail like then he come to coons like What gives you the the feelingsness to go with a lot of The the black power structure in reality, man Yeah, because you know what the black a lot of those guys would actually go in on me When I started doing the hidden color series, man The white power structure would send their negro minions after me to kind of try to discredit You understand and that's what they usually do a lot of these negroes You see on these new shows on television These are negroes that's been vetted and their job is to kind of be a buffer between the grassroots and the white power structure So they're always wagging their finger to us kind of telling the black masses what to do and not to do So we said hey, you guys are not giving us any advice that's going to be pertinent to us So we started calling them out and putting them on the coon train We actually had a coon train award in LA. I'm sure years ago. We're giving out trophies to them All of us who got their award I gave jessie lee peters and his award personally Here's the for real coon to my house before Yeah, because I filmed him for one of my movies and This is off camera and jessie's like ti rig you got a real nice house. I said, well, thank you jessie Black folks work harder and not be so lazy. They can have nice stuff like you.  He was just Yeah, I'm like, all right jessie.  Our imprint is there. We're here in in georgia. There's so much stuff in georgia You asked me earlier what shocked me one thing that did shock me is that a lot of black towns That we did have control over they were flooded deliberately by the white supremacists Lake lenear it used to be ox oscarville There used to be a town called oscarville black people They killed many of the black people ran them out and then flooded that area and we have to understand water Water has spirits, all right The molecular structure of water has spirits. It can carry spirits.   There's been people driving by lake lenear and something pushes their car in the damn water Several times there's all types of vehicles under lake lenear. That's the ancestral energy and the spirits man And we're close to the gulla, you know, georgias right next to south carolina. So that gulla geeky thing Yeah, you ever heard of the mississippi peach bow. That sounds familiar. Are you talking about the the devil's punchbow? Yeah, that's what you're talking about what they killed a lot of black people in mississippi After the civil wars the union soldiers did that they got a lot of black people put them in a Natchez mississippi. I think that's the name of the planet Natchez mississippi. Yeah, they put them over there scarred them out and basically Created a genocide over there. That's never talked about and it was the union soldiers who did that Yeah, I just saw the clip where it said some african soldiers like 78 african soldiers was shot when they asked for they they They're wage in the civil war one of the wars or something like that.     You already know how we do man savannah What y'all waiting on grab the ticket? I'm trying to sell out right now.    I don't know, but I'd be there march 4th variety playhouse in the land of george.  I got some Atlanta shows Niggas weird a squad coming out for that one two shows at the variety playhouse That sound like a strip club.  I'ma do it. All right. There we go All right Last april 8th 2023. I will be at the mirage in las vegas.   That was something that I've been wanting to do for a long time So I'm getting that popping now.  That's what anything we want to do We can just get up and do it nothing is stopping us.   Mm-hmm. It ain't enough of us to make a vote different We need to find out on this one. Yeah, if there's anyone to find out it's this one Anyone to find out if black people could make a difference.      Man. It's a legend. It's out of man. It's a real to hate. Yeah, I hope this ain't the last time you stopped Any time man? You got Right now, uh, in Haiti Yeah Dominican hospitals In a great Yeah, they they've been like that ever since Dessaline and those guys took over the whole island Remember it was the dominicans who wanted to get the Haitians off their back They wanted independence from the Haitians after the Haitians got the Spanish off their backs Because many of the dominicans and many people in latin america they identify with the Spanish as their brethren You understand?  They had the Haitian massacre where they were slaughtering Haitians in the Dominican Republic So they were looking at dark dominicans and they were having them say the word partially They call it the parsley massacre So if they said the word partially with an accent, they said oh this nigga's Haitian Let's kill him.  I'm no black. I'm you know, I'm spanish. I'm spanish So that's why that hatred is there.  They don't want to identify as black and um You know, that's interesting man. A lot of dark skin people of color We don't understand that they a lot of times don't identify as black There's a lot of people from east africa who come here jet black. They are technically classified as caucasian They play a lot of these racial games, man So we are looking at somebody who we think is black I'm telling you because of the they say that technically a caucasian person is somebody who's from the middle east europe and north africa Technically legally that's what a caucasian is legally. Yeah So certain people from the horn of africa north africa all of the the moroccan's libyans all of these people they are all classified as white um south america many of them in central america and uh the caribbean many of them are classified as white We don't even know that but they look like us and they become people of color when they want to kind of get some benefits But they identify as white Legally Yeah That's right.  There's a reason why sammy sosa is running around here Looking like ricky rickardo now He's not the only one That's Yeah, I want to hide in it though.    Yeah, I don't know that's that's heavy over there That's crazy. Yeah. What's my man name and Jamaican artist that vibes? Oh, yeah That's og I did too.  Is there I probably won't even know more hidden colors because we I've done five of them So I'm doing a lot of spin-off series the next movie I got coming out Um this February is called American maroon and that's talking about yes Another website where they can get everything You can go to hidden colors film dot com american maroon movie dot com button breaking film dot com. That's my last film Go to um Follow me on twitter tarik nashi. Follow me on instagram tarik elite Now maroon, what is what is that the context of that maroon? That was people who lived in swamps They lived in the swamps. They ran away from plantations and they fought the slave owners And they would kind of carve out their own lives in the swamps They were living in florida.    Yes indeed. Yes indeed. Yes indeed Man, we appreciate you for stopping by old jeep man Thank you. I gotta get that book. Yeah, you sat and waited on us to I think you said like a bug. Yeah, I mean And it was like this and then you just in the phone. I was like that nigga pro You the first Yeah I love it. It's a beautiful facility, man. I'm proud of you brothers, man. So proud of y'all, brother. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you Well, there you have it folks 85 self-show serenity. We out of here I appreciate it. Oh, man, man. I gotta get that book. What's the name of that book again? Foundation of all the mackin. Yeah, all the mackin. Oh, yeah. I gotta see you all my books Yeah, please because I got still got my all the mackin. That's still in my mama house right now Yeah Oh Yes


Okay, so I'm recording the meeting. So yeah, this is all, you know, we're so used to doing things in a certain way that now it's. It's a bit different. But and where will the recordings go. We have the date. So the town of Amherst has a YouTube site for all of the Amherst meetings. So we direct people to go to YouTube and to look for the Amherst site, but I will receive a link to the recordings and I'll just send them out to everybody. I'll just send you a link to the recording. Great. Thank you. And put it on the YouTube site too. I don't do that. That has to be it. I can't, I don't have the administrative authority to do that. So you just send it to it. It automatically goes, they, they automatically get it. Okay. But they don't, they're not always necessarily up to date. So I, I don't, I have the recordings of all our meetings. So if anyone is ever looking for a specific meeting and you can't find it on YouTube. Then just reach out to me and I'll get it to you. But I think as a matter of course I'm going to send these to this group. Because again, we're not just a town of Amherst committee. So I'll just make sure that everybody has a link to the recordings after the meeting. Okay. Sorry, let me get the agenda up here. Okay, so we're official. We have a minute taker. One of the other things that we should discuss is the frequency of our meetings. We've been meeting every few weeks. So what do we want to set a regular date and time? The requirement is that I post 48 hours in advance of a meeting. We don't necessarily have to have a specific day of the week or time of the week, but as long as I have 48 hours to post our meetings. We're good. But if we want to set something, which will make it easier for all of us probably. I don't have North Hampton here. So I'm a little bit reluctant. I'd be comfortable setting the next meeting, but maybe we wait on that decision till the next meeting. Because I think North Hampton needs to weigh in. Okay. Okay, so. For right now, at least let's just say where are we today's the third. So if we were to go two weeks from today, our next meeting would be on the 17th. Unfortunately, I have a conflict that day unless we. We can do a different. Day of that week. Or we could go to the following week, the 24th. Originally we were meeting on Mondays. At 9am, which was hard for some. Actually 8am. Even earlier originally. So. We could go to Mondays Monday, maybe the Monday, the 13th. At what time. We could say 10 and hope that North Hampton can make that meeting. Okay. Tom, is that good for you? It is. Mondays are no longer good for me, but. Obviously. It's Chris, you and Tom that matter. Okay. Well, Monday, the 13th. Yes. At 10am. So we'll say that tentatively for, you know, we'll say that for now, but that doesn't mean that'll be the regular meeting date. I think once Chris comes, we can have more of a discussion about what will work best. Okay. So. As far as our CCA next steps, I guess that was going to be where I was going to give you an update on. The draft contract before legal counsel. And that we would be hoping to get it to him as soon as possible. I know he's, he's raring to go. He's. You know, ready to work with us. So. So once. You know, once we get that contract in place, then we'll also have to. Be. Working on formalizing the J.P. So even though we are celebrating the MOU. We really want to get moving on the JPE and making that official as well. Where does that stand? I think it's both the, I sent the contract back to legal counsel again and said now that we have the MOU signed, we need to get the JPE in order. And if you recall, we had had a few outstanding issues, which we addressed and sent to legal counsel. And I haven't heard back from them about that document. So I have a meeting with Rick. Later today. And I'm just going to make a note to myself actually right now. To ask him about that while I have him as a captive audience. Do we know where it stands in the North Hampton hierarchy? No, because it was both, if you recall, it was both Alan Seawald and Rick Holland were reviewing it together. And. They both had to comment. And I don't think. I don't recall. If I heard back once we, they both had similar comments. And we addressed them and sent it back out to them. And that's where I haven't heard anything since. So I haven't gotten anything from Alan either. So once I hear back from Rick, I can make sure that North Hampton gets it before Alan Seawald. To ensure he doesn't have any final edits. Okay. Thanks. Okay. So let's see. So we were going to review the founders document. Today, I think so. Let's see. Darcy, I know I think you were going to do some edits to it. The last time we met. Yeah. I did them. Okay. Do you want to, do you have the link? Ooh, let's see. If not, I can probably pull it up. Just not to bear with me a minute. It's. It's on the, in the notes. So. Okay, hold on. I'll. I'll have it up in a second. I just want to make sure I have the right one. Yeah. I think so. Yeah, I just resolved some of the comments and. Well, I'll explain it to you when we see it. Okay. Just give me a minute to. Get it up here and share my screen. Okay. Can everybody see that now? Yeah. So. My comments were in the comments until I resolved them. But we, we did look at them last week and I was given permission to resolve things. So. The main thing was. Just. Language that we had used. That was referring to articles three and four by their previous names. We had changed them to methods. And key elements on the suggestion of Aaron O. Tool. But then they got changed back. And the process of editing. So I just changed it to. Include purpose goals and policies. That is the title of article three and services activities and undertakings. That's the. Title of article four. So I just switched that. And then below where it says founders intent key elements. I did go through all of them because I, I was, I didn't want us to be redundant of what actually did make it into the JPE. Because I thought there might be some there, but as I went through almost everything that's listed here is not in the JPE or is in much more general language. And thirdly, I, there were two sections. One that was basically article three and one article four. And I just combined them so under key elements, just to make it simpler to understand. So the last section, if you scroll down, Stephanie. To. Numbers. Five. Six and seven were under a separate category. And I just included it. And I just included it. So, because there's no reason there was not any particular reason to have two section. So it was all just. You know, nuts and bolts. Nothing. Substantive. I would. As I look at number five. I know that we've, we've gone through this document before, because that language got into it. The highlighted language through our. Last run through of this document. And looking at it again, it really feels like we should say something stronger than we should say. Like we'll strongly consider or. We'll make all efforts to include. Since that sort of is the. One of the core differences in our model. To everything else that's at least being done in Massachusetts. So that's my, that's my main substantive comment. And we haven't gone through all of this yet, the key elements. So I'm just noting that one comment. And certainly our intention was to have. An adder for a staff person. Right. I mean, that was kind of a given all along. And that's something that's certainly allowable. I think that. Initially I had put in. Will. Have an operational adder. And so. And our past go through. Since, since we weren't in any way sure that DPU would allow us to do that. We just changed it to consider, but, you know, I'm further looking at it. It just seems a little weak. Because any, anything could be considered considering, right? So. That's why I think it needs to be strengthened. The language. Why can't it just say the JPA. The aggregation plan will recommend. Including. Operational ladder. Yeah. That would be good. That's what we're going to do. We'd like to do. And the same with the second. We'll consider because it just means that we will. You know, we will go to DPU and try to get this at some point. Yeah. Okay. Do you want me to. Does that make sense? Yeah. No. I just wanted to like take a step back. Given that this is our first official meeting. To say that. This document. Comments on. A joint powers. Agreement, which we've drafted. But. Which is not. Official. And. Certainly. May. The yet change. So. Just. Like. Met a document. A document. Is still in process. So. Do you want to change? You can't change it. Or can you change it? I think I can. We can take care of that. Highlighting later. Cool. So I don't know if we want to go through the whole thing. Or. Cause we didn't, we didn't actually. I think we just got through the first. Paragraph the last time. We got down to key elements, I believe. So he stopped here. And Chris was one of the main commenters. So I. I would hope that we wouldn't have to do it all over again with Chris and Wayne, not here. Cause this is a pretty important document to be talking about without North Hampton. Yeah. I know. And that's why. What I'm thinking as well. I mean, we could. I mean, what we could do is just go through it. And if there's any. You know, Make note of edits or suggestions and then. Sure. Have Chris take a look on his own and just, he'd have to bring them to the next meeting. So what we can't. Oh, that's another thing. Be careful what you wish for, right? It's really wonderful that we're official now. But let me just say this is a challenge. Because I'm realizing now that we can't even, we're not supposed to be working with. Google docs anymore. Like I can't. At least the way I am, our stop rates is we can't use the Google doc to go in and be editing and doing this kind of thing. So I think. At least again, for this meeting, because this is our first one. We then have to make this. We can't work in Google docs any longer. At least I. No, I can't. And I think we can do it during a meeting though, right? And then I think we can do it during the meeting. But we can't like. Chris can't go in and start working with us. I mean, he could have a copy to review. And get comments. Back to you as the person who's working on the document. But like, I can't. Because otherwise we could be conceived as. Deliberating. On, on this document. Does that make sense to everybody? And why this is. Problematic. So anyway, let's just, let's just go through it now. If we will, and then send a copy out. To Chris and make sure that if he has additional comments, we just can't see what his comments will be. Until like. The next meeting. Or he can give you his feedback directly. To you. Okay. Okay. So do you want to. Do you want to go over this now or. I mean, we have 20 minutes left. Do we want to just read this section one? To ourselves and see if anybody has any issues with it. That works for me, Tom. I'm good with that. I like. I like it. I mean. Okay. All right. Then why don't we just sort of take a moment to read through and when people are ready, just let me know you're ready for me to scroll. I don't want to go too quickly. It's a minor thing in paragraph C. There's locally need to be. Oh yeah. That is because it's in the. Definitions. Yeah. Yeah. All right. But this is a, this is not. The official JPA documents. So. Oh yeah. Whatever. Yeah. And the question about. Whether unbundled is defined somewhere. Again, this is just an aid to the. Board of the JPE. And. Doesn't have to follow all the same rules. Make that a lower case cell because that's going to bug me. I like it. People good with me scrolling down. Yes. Yes. I'm just going to mute myself. This is kind of. Repetitive. Am I missing something? Which is. Repetitive. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Promoting local. Is there again? Andrew, just how I read that is that it's just talking about the portfolio. Broadly. And then it's. It's more. Defining what these things are. Or how it will achieve these things. Okay. And how's that different from number one? I'm scrolling up. Sorry, people. This number. Number two is energy efficiency. So number one is supply. Right. Two is energy efficiency. And conservation. Okay. Three is jobs. I have to mute this. I think it's okay. And four is climate justice. Five, six, and seven are. Are what were methods, you know. The practical means of doing these things. Yeah. Summary of a lot of years of work. Yeah, these are just the actual articles. Yeah. They're just the original version of these articles. In the last six months or so. So they're probably slightly changed right now. You should probably delete them and just. Yeah. Yeah. The document. JPA. Yeah. It was helpful to go through them to see if they were. But it, it. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I think that's. Satisfying. Stephanie. Are you still with us? I'm sorry, I'm talking to you and I'm realizing I'm muted. I've actually been talking for a little bit now. What I was saying was. I'm. I'm putting the founders. I don't think we should have any kind of official vote just because Northampton's not present. To accept the founders document has now written, but I'll put that on the next agenda. Just bear with me. This is going to take some getting used to being official. It was nice to be unofficial for so long. But now is when the action starts. Yeah. Well, yes. We can officially start reducing greenhouse gas emissions. So let me just see what else we have. So I don't think we have any public for public comment. I mean, lost Catherine. So. Dwayne, thank you for sticking with us because this is. We're fumbling through a little bit just because. This is a new way of having to work with one another. Now that we're official. Well, I know that for me back. Yes. Yes. Let me, let me just say, I, I, I've been, you know, and speaking for River and I, you know, we're, we're been following the great work that the CCA has been doing. And I thought I'd just check in on this milestone. To see, see what, what's new and what, what sort of the next steps are. So. I, we don't work for the clean energy extension. We've been sort of technical advisors in the past and not so much as, as things have really been getting much more administrative and action oriented. So we don't, we river and I don't plan to join all the meetings at all. But we're available. If you need us to do any analysis or technical support services. And so just thought I'd check in today. But I'd like to stay on the email list, but whether we're panelists or public. I'd leave that up to the three towns to decide going forward. And how you want to, how you want to treat us, but just thought I'd check in with the group and say hi again. Yeah, we can keep you on as panelists.  You know, you get the, the meeting notices and also you can come into the meeting and have a role to discuss. More easily, but also, I think when we engage Paul Gorma, I know you had said you were interested at one point that once Paul is on board. There's likely to be a meeting with Paul. Yeah. Invite Paul to meet with us all. Once he's officially engaged. I think he's not willing to probably do it until we, you know, get engaged. But I expect that will be soon. I would hope it could be by the next meeting, but I don't know for sure. Yeah. Okay. Well, just want to also offer congratulations on getting this. Milestone and, and, and the formally in progress. So it's great. Yeah, it's been some time coming. So, I know. So, okay. Well, yeah. It's a great group. Yeah. We've worked hard. I think. You know, at this point, there's really not much left on the agenda for today. I don't want to get into much of anything else. Without North Hampton. And in the meantime, in between this meeting and the next one, I'm going to work on trying to. Have a web page. So we have somewhere where we live. That's, you know, like a lot of, um, the public opinion on how to help those communities. That they can use for their communities as well. Again, I will put together agendas, official agendas, they will go to everybody, but they'll go to Tom and Chris in order in time to post. For the next meeting. And what else as far as our documents. We really cannot work in Google doc anymore. But Darcy, sorry. I'll work on that. I'm just right now, I'm talking more about the sort of technical setting us up. That I will do, but this like that stuff really absolutely has to happen. I think before our next meeting, you know, because I don't know how well, you know, I know with Valley bike, I didn't ever post the meeting agendas or anything in Amherst, but Dwayne always posted them. I'm sorry, Wayne always posted them in Northampton. So I'm assuming if we post them and it has all three towns listed and I'll specifically maybe say on the agendas now, I'll list Northampton, Pelham and Amherst. So we have a domain name, right? For Valley, didn't we get both Valley Green Energy and Valley Green Alliance? So I have, you mean on the web? We secured those web domains? Yes, we did. I have to double check with Bree because I'm not sure if a year's gone by because you have to renew them. And I think we automatically, I'm pretty sure I used my credit card to automatically renew them. So I'll have to check with Breanna because she set it up. So I'll check with her. But what I'm talking about setting up a page right now is just on the town's website. I'm not talking about doing like a whole, I feel like when we get... I think, I believe that Karen Ribeiro set up the domain names and she used her credit card. She did and they expired. And I renewed them through our communications manager. Great. We had to re-up them. And when she and I spoke, we said that we would try to make sure that they just automatically renewed. So, but that's why I have to double check with her. But what I was about to say is that right now, we're not, I think we need to wait until we engage Paul Gromer before we sort of set that all up. Right now, all I'm talking about right now is setting up a webpage as a place to have meeting agendas, minutes, documents, just as a place to sort of get things started that's accessible to the public because that's my big concern right now. And I have to do that if we're an official committee, I have to do that through the town's website. As far as when Paul Gromer comes on, there'll be probably something more that we'll do. They're gonna set up a Valley Green Energy page probably because that's what they do is part of securing them for the separate. Which will morph into Valley Green Alliance? No. I don't think so. I think it'll be separate because that will just be the CCA. So the CCA will be Valley Green Energy but the Valley Green Alliance will be the JPE presence and that doesn't exist yet. So I'm not worrying about that. And we will have to set up a website for that. Yes, but not right now. So when we get a little closer, I mean, I think we've got enough to sort of, for me, I just wanna make sure we are, in meeting open meeting law and making sure we have our documents and information accessible to the public. Definitely would it be helpful if I sent you links to all the Google Docs that are sort of the foundation documents to put into, you know, PDFs and they'll change. Yeah, they'll be, yeah, I mean. At least they'd be available for the public. It won't be hard for me once we get something set up. So I just have to talk to Brianna. Once we get something up, I think it should be fairly straightforward to be able to add those links to those things. So you can just send them to me. I know Darcy has a lot in her link now. They're in, most everything is in the notes. Yeah, I think when I look at your link that you send Darcy, I'm sorry, I'm on the wrong thing. I'm thinking that we could make a public, you know, directory for just the basic documents for anyone wants to catch up on what we've been doing. You don't need all the notes from before. Yeah, we just need the basic documents. Like, I don't think we need large meeting notes from every meeting. All we need is that, like you said, like the founder's document, you know, I don't know. Our report, the MOU, the report, those kinds of things. The grant report, we have them on the LEA website resource page if you want to find them, there's a lot on there. And yeah, so that would be good to have because that's sort of a basic, especially the report of this group in January, what was it, 2020 or 2019, I can't remember. Duane was the lead on that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, we'll definitely want to have that information as well. So yeah, so lots to sort of work on just to get us kind of set up. So I don't think Breanna is actually in today. So I'll send her an email. I know she's out. I don't know when she'll be back next week. So I'll send her an email and she and I will connect hopefully before the next meeting, but we'll try to get as much of this together as we can. Yeah. On the next meeting, I think you said that Chris is out until the 13th. Yeah, actually, I think he's out. Let me just give me a second to see if I have his response so that I, because I think there was a date. Bear with me one second here. It doesn't seem like it makes any sense to schedule a meeting if you can't. Oh, yeah, no, actually, he's out until the 13th. So maybe we want to make that meeting. I know, so, you know, with everything, the challenges was availability. And I know Darcy, you have a hard time with Tuesdays and Thursdays. Yeah, I mean, we could just meet next Friday and then do it two weeks from then. It just seems like there's so much going on right now. Well, Chris, I don't want to meet again before Chris is back. I want to wait until Chris is back and he's not back till the 13th. And I can't do Friday the 17th. And so do we have any way of finding out from him by email, whether he's away? He's not going to respond. I think Chris, typically, when he takes vacation, he does not check in. He checks out. He doesn't have anybody who knows his schedule, right? Yeah, so he doesn't. Yeah, it's like me. No one knows my schedule. And who is Carolyn that was mentioned earlier? Carolyn is the assistant director. And she's going to be the acting, planning, and director of planning and sustainability for Northampton while they do this. Who are you discussing with her? Well, yeah. Carolyn Mitch is her name. Yes. And Carolyn and I have, Carolyn was in contact with me because I reached out to her about this meeting. And she said she was unavailable. And she basically said, send me documents. But I don't know how much she's going to be attending because Chris is now officially representing Northampton in this effort. So I don't know that Carolyn will be attending. I think we should find a way to encourage her to come at least a couple of times just to not have that position working with us. I don't know. Maybe Adele is the Northampton resident advocate. Maybe you want to reach out to Carolyn. I'll think about that. I can ask her. I mean, I can ask her. But I, you know, I mean, again, Chris, Wayne was very clear that I think the mayor appointed Chris as the liaison to this group. So I don't know that Carolyn. I mean, it didn't say Chris and Carolyn. So. Right. It's unfortunate, though, because she needs to be up to speed on what we're doing. And maybe she is because she's been there. But we don't know that. Or Chris is to keep her up to date. Yeah, that's true. I think that's the point is that Chris will, like, you know, Chris will be the liaison and he would keep her up to date. I mean, I think Wayne himself was just really involved in all of this, you know, and it was an interest of his. I don't, you know, and if Carolyn is acting, but she may not be the next director. I mean, she may or may not be, I don't know. So we don't know who the next person is if they're going to have the same level of commitment to this initiative if Chris is already appointed. So and it might be that kind of thing, as you said, where he may just be reporting back to them on where we are. I don't know. Just sort of thinking that if Chris couldn't come on the 13th, then maybe she could cover for him for that one day. But I don't know if she doesn't know what we've been doing that minute. Yeah, I don't know how much that will be helpful. But let's we could say, do we want to maybe say instead of the 13th, do we want to say June 15th? Is that OK? It's a Wednesday at 10 a.m. I should check my before I commit myself. I should look. I have a conflict with that. I can probably change an appointment that I have at 1030. Or we could do 9 a.m. Well, at 9 a.m. I have a standing. Yeah, me too. That's the meeting. What about 1 o'clock? What about what? 1 o'clock on the 15th? Stephanie, I'm going to I'm starting a new job. Actually, I started it on Wednesday and I'm going to be out in California. I can do, you know, 6 or 7 a.m. California time, but by 1 o'clock here, 10 o'clock there, I'll be out in California that day. So I won't be available after that. OK, I'm sorry. Who had a conflict with 9 a.m.? Andrew and I, what about what? Why don't we just say Friday this? Oh, I can't do this. OK, I think we have to say the 15th at 10. And if Chris can't make it, we got to schedule it so that he can be there. It'll be another meeting like this. What I'm going to do right now is tentatively say Wednesday, the 15th at 10 a.m. And I, you know, I'll send an email to Chris specifically asking him if he can make that date and time. And if he can't, I mean, you know, we might have to do at least that week. Darcy, we might have to do a Tuesday or Thursday. Or Andrew and Adele, we might have to do Wednesday, the 15th, that may be a different time. I'm just worried about, you know, Tom, to accommodate Tom, I feel like we need to make sure we do it at an hour that works for him. So it would be either 9 or 10. And that would be true that whole week, right, Tom? Yeah, I mean, I'm home on Friday, but that doesn't help. Yeah, I'm sorry about Friday. I could maybe do 9 to 10 on Friday. I've just got work. Yeah, I'm taking the afternoon off. Actually, I was going to take the whole day off. So but I could maybe do 9 to 10. Does that work for everybody? If I did 9 to 10 on the on Friday, the 17th? Yeah, works for me. But could we give Chris two options in pencil and both those options for us? And all right. So I'm putting Monday. OK, so I'm saying either Wednesday, the 15th, the 10th, or Friday, the 17th at 9. I'll give him those two options and see if he can do either one. OK, sounds good. OK. All right. Well, I will let you know. Yeah, the meeting has to be posted. So if it's Friday, the 15th to 10, we'd have to post on Monday before 10. So right, we'd have to post on Monday before 10. So it would be very tight. Yeah, yeah. I wanted to bring up one other thing, which is that the Andra, Adele, and Sam, and I had volunteered to try to start looking for members that could potentially, we could potentially recommend to be on the Community Advisory Board Committee. We haven't really started doing that yet. So I just wanted to remind us that that is something that once we get the Valley Green Alliance up and running, we'll want to have that right away. So we're still working on it. My point is that we still know that we're trying to put together a list of recommendations. The hard part is that every organization that I'm a member of, which is quite a few, we're all doing the same thing. We're all looking for diverse membership. I was at a League of Women Voters meeting last night. Big section of the meeting devoted to let's diversify our membership. And so it's a challenge, but we are working on it. All right.  No, no, no. I have to go to another meeting now. OK. Yeah, I do. I have not forgotten my commitment to get the list of community solar providers. So it's been a while, six months, as I've been leaving one job and going to the next. So but I'll have that. No worries. All right. I will let everybody know I'll send an invitation out when we confirm the next meeting. And if I don't hear from Chris by Friday, the 10th or whatever, I may have to just make a decision. Yeah. So OK, everybody, thank you so much. Take care. Thank you. Bye.