What's good Josh boros back again with another video man, so we just finished the live stream reaction for the go-home show on Smackdown man, it was some some interesting things went down on the show There was some amazing stuff and then there was some quite Confusing doesn't make sense for my storyline since or situation that was going on on the show So we got to talk about that but first thing first. I mean I gotta talk about the best part of this show Hands down the interaction with the Miz and LA night Was fantastic That that definitely hiked me up even more for their match at payback tomorrow, man That was great The the past few instances where they've had a promo battle have been Fantastic and this one was more or less the same Miz on Monday night raw came out just like LA night and his impression Personation of LA night was spot-on. It was great. Great. He'll work miss comes out on Smackdown Oh, what night he's talking about how easy it is to be LA night LA night music hit crowd going crazy as you expected And I like that LA night brought this up We've seen this LA night brought up the fact that the Miz likes the cosplay He cosplays as as the rock is cosplayed as John Cena at one point and now he cost playing as LA night Myself, you know as he was saying and he's like the thing is that they have in common is You want to be them you want to have the career that they have and LA night pretty much, you know was telling him now how he had to get it out the mud How he had to in was sleeping in cars and and didn't really have money like that and sleeping in in hotel rooms with roaches and stuff like that and it's just it was I Guess you can say it was opening up for people who don't know, you know I'm saying his backstory and how he had to climb to get it to where he is now and I love Them blurring the lines of what's real and what's not like how they're using real-life Situations or whatnot like the Miz commented on I believe there's a video of him Talking into like a makeshift microphone pretending to be the rock delivering a promo and the Miz mentioned that mentioned that's all you are, you know and You know, he was basically saying that, you know, yeah, I came from reality TV, but I'm a star. I got this I got this. I you know, I have a great show with my wife and all this other stuff and then LA night Retorted back letting them know like yeah, you you you came from this place It was easy for you to get to the to where you were But at the end of the day, listen you talking about your show like you was the star No, you weren't the star you were carrying her bags while she was carrying your balls pause You know I'm saying and they were really going back and forth and he said look I want to apologize to your wife ahead of time because I'm gonna I'm gonna send you back a broken man You won't be able to fill her up You know I'm saying but she can give me a call any time and we can we can make something out of all This is getting good. This was great We weren't even really talking me in dub industry losers listening in and watching these guys cook each other, bro They were cooking each other at 500 degrees both of they burnt down the kitchen Even though LA night had a little bit of a fumble when he was talking about his money problems But he's still recovered and it was still a passionate promo. He said bro on Saturday. I'm gonna stomp you out, you know And it was great. It was fantastic They get into a little scuffle the Miz get the best of them in the skull a crushing finale or whatnot He walks up the ramp to Miz and he does LA night does what I've been wanting most wrestlers do and That is break that invisible wall that in various visible barrier where the ropes are where they can't get to their opponent He ran down the ramp. He went through the ropes ran down the ramp Attacked Miz and start giving him the beats. They had to get the referees off of them I love it. The referees and officials trying to break it up hold back LA night The Miz is running away like a scalded dog. That is what I love to see this segment was great crowd-chaining LA night Looking forward to this match best part of the show dead ash Fantastic So I had to get that out the way looking forward to this match is is it's gonna be a good one I really do think they that it could be matching night. The story is there. The promo has been there I'm looking forward to it. So we got to talk about What's going on with Jimmy or whatnot? So John Cena starts off the show electric as you expected expect you can't see me there And man was there, you know I'm saying and everybody was enjoying it then Jimmy comes out He comes out actually with some new music and the new music.  He he's talking to John Cena like why you out here the people came to see me I'm the I'm a top star now. I'm like, oh very interesting. I didn't know Jimmy has become a top star As of recently now he said this is his ring, you know saying and you don't belong here And he also made a mention to say John you really like Roman You just put a smile on your face. You're literally like Roman He compares him to Roman Reigns as this guy that takes and takes and takes from everybody You just do it with a smile on your face But what not and we knew at some point John Cena was gonna cook the guy, you know But he didn't even have to put Jimmy in the oven He put Jimmy in the microwave all he had to say was one simple thing He said I've been waiting to say this for a very long time No wrong ooh, so quit and that's all he had to say Kyle said ooh The wrong ooh, so quit he put them in the microwave for three minutes and 55 seconds Not even a full four minutes of three minutes 355 took him out the oven let the food cool off and that was it. That's that he served them just just like that at that point Jimmy tries to super kick him But obviously Cena being a Cena he sees it coming or what not and hits him with the attitude adjustment Or what not and walks out the ring or whatnot So we cut through various segments of Jimmy just being rude to people as a backstage guy with a production crate He was being rude to him then Me again, I don't think she goes like I don't think she goes by me and you know her name But I'm calling me in because that's what I knew her as originally NXT. She's talking to Adam Pierce and Jimmy interrupts it She Mia gets upset about it or what not and it's coming off like Jimmy is is like he's feeling entitled like He's feeling more so bigger than he should be Someone that mentioned it in our chat Jimmy is doing the same thing that he was afraid Jay was gonna become if he beat Roman Reigns Jay Jimmy felt like Jay was gonna end up turning into Roman when Jimmy starting to act like he's Roman now Like he's the big guy or what not so Because that interaction and that interruption in Mia feeling feeling disrespected She went to talk to AJ Styles about it AJ said nah, I'ma handle it for you Mia So AJ confronts Jimmy as he's about to quote-on-quote leave or what not like yo, what's up? Why you disrespecting my friend or what not and they getting each other faces Jimmy pushes AJ AJ shoves Jimmy to the ground and then solo to call out of nowhere attacks AJ Styles from behind and then he tells Jimmy you can't leave the bloodline. What are you doing? And then Jimmy gets up and proceeds to say man, I'm done with you. I'm done with Roman I'm done with the bloodline. I don't I don't care and then it's presumed that he leaves the arena or whatever, right? so AJ ends up getting the match with solo so-called they have their match and then you know Typical match nothing nothing crazy to talk about here But it looks like AJ is potentially gonna win the match He goes to the top rope for the phenomenal forearm or getting ready to and then you see Jimmy come out of nowhere side swipe AJ Styles leg off the top rope. He falls and then he ends up getting hit with a Samoan spike by solo solo gets the one two three win while Paul Haman is out there or what not and Jimmy comes into the ring, you know trying to hug Jay solo like yeah We got the job done and then solo about to hit him with the Samoan spike on Jimmy Paul tells him to stop He stops solo gets out the ring or whatever and then as AJ Styles is coming to or what not? Jimmy super kicks AJ Styles goes to the top rope hits the splash on AJ Styles, he's looking at solo He's looking at Paul Haman and he proceeds to put up the one as if he's back in the bloodline Now here's my issue with that Why? How does that make any sense? I know somebody's gonna try to justify this storyline that makes I just want you guys to know That makes absolute no sense. I'm being so dead serious That makes no sense for his character so all of a sudden now wants to kind of align himself with the bloodline You putting up the ones like you're aligning yourself with the people that you said you weren't gonna align yourself with you Even betrayed your own brother and said I didn't betray them for them I'm I don't want to have anything to do with them.  His character Is is indecisive. He doesn't know whether he wants to be in whether he wants to be out and When you really think about it, he was the first one to initiate leaving If you guys think about it He was the one that kicked Roman in the face when Jay Jay didn't do it and he's the one that told Jay you should have did this a long time ago and kicked Roman in the face He's the one that started this initial break up because he wasn't liking how he was being treated He wasn't liking how they were being treated to then all of a sudden throw up the ones again With the people that's mistreated you Can we are we gonna forget that the nigga got sent to the hospital per story line by the same Nigger that you just helped in the match. Even though that's your family. They put you in the hospital per story line That was just like a month ago. We just post a forget That made no sense To now be like put my ones up I just rather him been just a lone wolf. You gave him new music. I'd rather him just been a lone wolf He not rocking with nobody then I would have read it that in my opinion. That would have been a better story. I don't know I Don't know And then I don't know what they're doing Jimmy Jimmy seems lost and confused and doesn't know who he wants to align himself with But yeah, that's smackdown and kind of a middle of a rose smackdown if you asked me for a go-home show the best part La night in the midst fantastic. If you haven't seen that promo segment, just go watch it. That was great Fantastic stuff. So comment down below. Let me know does it make sense? From Jimmy to all of a sudden throw the ones up again. Am I tripping? Am I missing something? Let me know if that makes sense to y'all cuz it don't make sense to me And also, let me know if you guys enjoyed that L.A. Knight and miss promo any or you guys looking forward to their match at payback Cuz I know I am Yeah, but I appreciate all of us for you guys on channel road 250k I'm still getting speedy you to the rest of the world. Appreciate y'all can't even be seen on next woman. Peace


Okay, so we're gonna be starting with the next talk right now, so please sit down take your seats and Rondo boss for Cuba. He's gonna be talking about good databases and indexes and interesting stuff.  I work at sourced many on projects related to storage and data processing like my SQL server and Get database and the engine but also in a spare time. I maintain couple opens with projects like Extended attributes package for go and the zip compression library and recently I helped my friend in his new programming language called never Bad today. I want to talk about How we integrated the bitmap index in our Geed database, so I have to give you first some context So Geed base is application But just it's just a front end the real my SQL server database engine Which is by the way powered by Vitas is another opens with projects Geed base is so far just a read-only database So no insert no updates and all the queries to go get repos are done by the Go get package the pillow. There is another opens this project which we use it's a distributed index Implementation it implements the roaring storage format and apart from indexes. It lets you keep attributes in bold DB So the Geed base is just a standalone like an application which you can play with just a front-end and All the well-known terms from the Geed like repositories commit refs are mapped to the tables and a convention Convention is just how you the reference are based on the convention and the naming convention So basically you can play with all the features like natural joins and for instance this query Uses the natural join So you want to get all the repositories where the Alan Turing contributed on a head reference And so you just do the query from revs and natural join with comments More sophisticated query is this one which basically uses our predefined function which let you extract some abstract syntax tree and You can recognize the language based on the content and stuff like that So this query tries to extract all the identifiers the identifier names from your go files But of course we have indexes indexes are the most interesting for the stock So we have indexes and you can create an index on wire or multiple columns This is simple stuff The nice thing is that you can specify what the index driver will you want to use so the red keyword? Pilosa means that you want to use the Pilosa as a index driver Also, you can create the indexes asynchronously and synchronously But you can also instead of creating the index on one or multiple columns You also can create the index on an expression So a little bit theory about the indexes Till we dive in is that we have a hash indexes which work like a hash maps It's a very good for equality the most popular indexes in databases were tired be trees and Most most places is this is very good the best approach. They are self-balanced trees pretty well Pretty well choice if you wondering which one to use our trees are not super popular. They are more index multi-dimensional objects, so they are good when you try to group nearby objects They are also self-balanced trees and beat maps beat maps are very good to optimize logical operations And this is what we what we chose for git base Beat maps can be very expensive to rebuild the whole beat map in some time So so it's it's a good choice for for example for read on these systems Also, the best what you can get is when you have a lot of data, but not Not many possible values And Also, the good thing about the beat maps is that because it's optimized for logical operations You can create the one one be index per column to satisfy all queries If you don't have beat maps indexes the formula on the right is Is the number of indexes which you have to create to satisfy all the possible queries where n is a number of columns? So for example Beatrice With the Beatrice you have to deal with this So I mentioned a little bit about the storage for a storing of about the format how it's stored So it's called throwing Roaring format and a pillow so which we use the they implement this and this format and apart from the all the offset Which you have to set and headers in a file The most important is how you store the data on a disc So first when you have the row ID and the column ID in your in a new beat map You have to store to the local storage So you calculate the position you call the ad function and What ad function does is basically the first bite is the operation. So in this case, it's a it's at the next eight bytes It's a value In a little Indian format and then last four bytes is just a checksum of the operation and and your value and you write it to the To the disc basically this pretty simple how you save data and pilosa implement it It's a typical by default. It's a typical server client But we hacked a little bit which I will talk later By default, it's a typical server client where communication goes over RPC or rest API and The data model in pilosa looks like this. So you have a huge Boolean matrix Where index Contains fields and then in rows in this matrix are local Per field But the columns are global columns are shared across all the fields. So you can say give me Column number five in the index and you'll get the all the ones or zeros from all the Fields, but when you say row number five you have to specify for which field So rows are local Per-field and their columns are global and nice think about the beat max is that you can match them Well, you can match rows, but what's the most important is that you cannot match rows across Indexes you have to match rows Inside the same index So how we integrated the pilosa in git base? So we the first approach was the simplest one Yeah, take the pilosa run it in a container as a server one pilosa index maps to the one database index and One field was the equal to one expression. So the column and it was super simple We had to add the mapping because you have to map the beat maps is just a Matrix so it has rows and columns, but you have to map the values to rows and columns to location or number of the record in your table So it was the simplest approach But after some time we decided we don't want to maintain yet another server and Trouble shoot all the synchronization problems and stuff like that So we decided maybe it would be good to hack pilosa a little bit and Embed it into the git base.  So this is what we did We implemented yet another index driver that time we called it pilosa leap we Got rid of the server part extracted the API And basically we tried to prototype some stuff first of all we had to deal with all the storage nodes We had to open and close first so like a index fields and fields contains the views and fragments can cash and stuff like that But we first we found a holder which was kind of the nice thing because holder let you open the whole hierarchy Just by calling the open and close thing and it does all the thing for you. So sound Sounded promising at the time, but suddenly appeared that we had so many problems and random crushes In this concurrent words with the holder. So we took a closer look how the holder was implemented And apart from all the whole Handlers and then they filled it contain two channels open and close closing these two channels are only used in these two functions open and close and They close the opening open channel in an open function and the close the Closing channel in the close function. What means that in the concurrent world? It possible that you try to open already open file or close already closed file and Basically instead of do nothing call return the error It panics and please I really like filosa don't get me wrong But if you are doing something like this, please don't it's bad. It's bad by default. Nobody should do it so so How we solve this problem? We decided to get rid of the holder. It's the easiest way So now we have to really manually open index and fields But the opening and close functions for fields and indexes. They don't have this problem that when you open once again Nothing really bad happened So yeah, so we got rid of the holder and we did some improvements One of them is that we right now have one pilosa index per table. So multiple database indexes are contained in a one pilosa index and One field is per Index expression, which can be the column name and the partition. This is something what we introduced recently Also, what we improve a little bit that we still have the mapping in bold DB But we use the bucket sequencer to get the next possible available ID Interprove a little bit performance, but also we have to encode and decode data. So we use the Gov package from standard library But what's the good thing about having one pilosa index per table is that right now all your indexes are in Database indexes are inside one pilosa index so you can match them So how did it works this merging stuff? So let's start from the scratch You have to create the index so first you have this huge blend Matrix and let's let's assume that we want to create the index on a column a and to be So you create the index then you iterate through all the expression a and b and for each of them You create the field let's assume for simplicity that leads to partition just a one partition And it's still the same index ID So you create two fields you have this huge matrix full of zeros then you have to populate it by data So you iterate Through columns and every column. Let's say every column is a new record in your table So it's kind of that looks more or less like a column database You iterate through the records and you iterate through the columns So you put the one you set the bit one in every column But you have to figure out in which field in and in which row So you go to the field which is mapped to your Column and try to get the row ID for your value if value already exists that get row ID function Will you return the row ID which already exists? If not, it will generate next ID for you so after you get that you add you set the bit in a field and you put it in your Put the location in your mapping So this is how you save data and then you have some ones In your matrix. So now you want to query when you query you put some filter like you want to get all data Where a is two and B is four so you do once again you iterate through the expressions go through the fields and then you have to Find the row ID where the value two and the value four are and for simplicity, let's say that Value two is assigned to row two in a and value four is assigned to Row four in B So at the end when you already collected all the rows Which are assigned to your values Because it's an end you have to do intersection. So you intersect rows and as a result you get These columns where the one was on the same positions because it was intersection. So you get columns It's a three and a five as a result you go to the mapping once again to get the location We where are your records in your tables? Which are where assigned to values three and five? This is how the magic works, but what's worth to mention in my opinion. What's the good thing about the beat mapping dexes is the matching thing and It doesn't make sense with beat mapping dexes to create Indexes on multiple columns It's better to create the one index per column. The reason why is that if I created the index on Columns A and B so on two columns Then I can the index will be used only if I do intersections and The intersection will be used as an internal operator operation first But if I create the indexes independently one index on a and second index on B then I Will get the same result The intersection will be not internal operation, but the external operation later But it will not have any bad impact on performance But the good thing is that if you replace and by or then it will do exactly the same instead of Intersection will just call the union and that's it So it doesn't make sense because creating the index on multiple columns. It will only satisfy and filters So how it was done because I mentioned that we have pilosa and pilosa leap drivers But it's also possible to implement on index driver because everything what we did we did through the interfaces and so first of all you have an index driver interface which Just has this basic functions Which let you create load save and delete index and this function return the index interface Which basically as two main functions hasn't get which can answer your question Do I have this value and if I have the value? you can get the value and to get the value I Called the function get it returns index lookup which more or less is kind of a wrapper on on a value integrator Also, we have some indexes which let us query by ranges like a Austin index So you can ask questions greater or less than etc But they also all of them they return the index lookup lookup And the index lookup as I mentioned is kind of the wrapper on a on a iterator It just gives you the iterator based on the partition But the index lookup may Implement set operation interface, and if you implement set operation interface Then you can match lookups by intersection union difference as a result. You'll get another lookup and Get the get the values. So this is how merging quirks and the last but not least is mapping mapping is important because basically with the bitmap indexes you have just a Row and columns. So you have to map values and Trichords to columns and row IDs. So the mapping works like this you You want to get the row ID for your value? Row our local rows our local per field. So you have to specify in which field You pass the value. So which first we encode the value by gop encoder And then then we get the bucket in a bold db Where which is assigned to the field and we try to get the value from the bucket If it exists Then we immediately can return the ID row ID if it doesn't exist. We take a next available row ID calling this next sequence and We once again encode it to the little indian format and we put it in a in a bucket For bold db and of course return from the function So this is basically how it works Sima function is to get the location from column ID instead of encoding redecording Colors IDs To get the location and this is basically how it works so Maybe I can demo some stuff if I have a time. It's like a five-minute left If you have it's better. It's a question like do you have any questions or I can demo something how magic works Because what can go wrong with the life demo with 100 500 people in front of the and And live streaming nothing that can make happen So demo or questions Okay Big girl Really say stop. Okay. I think I already compiled it. So server github a server. I Have some small repo Here in repos indexes will go Texas, okay, okay. I Putted some debug functions so we can see here how it works. Basically I'm still debugging with print lines I know how many of you likes debugging with print lines Yeah, and I'm just like we are passing almost first quarter of the 21st century, but we are still debugging with print lines I really like that and I hope Derek will tell me how about improvements on mark Yes, but so far print lines also save my day. So, okay All right No possible for Okay, let me open I have some So first of all I'd like to show you One of the tables which is So I will test against some table which is called comic files And it contains like a couple like repository D commit hash for hash and you have a one just a one repo Called basic and it has tons of stuff So right now Thank you So right now I will create the index first index Okay, three indexes AB on columns on two columns and A on one column and B on the second column, okay This is how this debugging works So basically Basically, it creates the fields in your index it and it populates by data and these numbers are So every row has these numbers and these numbers say in which column the one was set Because I increase the font so much. So I don't know if what I want to say So here for example, we have a We have a field Which is assigned it to the file path in index AB, but if you go to the Go to the field, which is also file path, but in index A or B it will have the same data so basically Having also indexes on two columns and on just someone one column it duplicates data So it's better instead of duplicating that I created one index per column and So let's say we want to use this select to get To get the comet how to get everything where the comet hash is this and file path is that and We call we call explain to explain how the query will work and it says it will use indexes a B if I replace and by or It will use indexes just a and B so The reason why I said that it's better to have independent indexes instead of is that I Drop the index on a B Can drop and once again call explain and this time Two indexes will be used instead of one because I drop the a B So right now we can we can use indexes a and B independently and it will also work With or Okay, last thing is that Let me query Query did gave result and this is how it work We get two rows from the bitmaps We intersect them. So the position the only position zero zero is the position where they in In both bitmaps where one was set So we get the just a column one and as a result. It should be just one Just one record Okay, and this is this one I'm done. I'm run of the time. I'm sorry. That's it. Thank you. Thank you Do you have I'm not filled with an apple today. I'm not I haven't This morning I was filled with an apple Where are you ladies perfect for me and I like that Oh, I'll figure it out. Don't worry


This 10th year of Daily Tech News show is made possible by its listeners. Thanks to all of you, including Chris Smith, Mark Gibson, and Reid Fishler. Coming up on DTNS, it's CES.  Plus Microsoft may add chat GPT to Bing. This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, January 4th, 2023 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Redwood, I'm Sarah Lane. From the Las Vegas Convention Center, I'm Rich Trafalino. And on the show's producer, Roger Chang. Joining us, Deputy Editor Reviews at Engadget Sherlin Law, welcome back. Hi, thanks for having me. Thank you for joining us when it's CES. That is an extra above and beyond. It says a lot. Yeah. No, I halfway through was like, I'm not doing this. I'm not coming. I'm just going to ghost you all. Yeah. I would have fully respected you. But you're here now. I made it. Yeah. We really appreciate it. Let's get right into it, folks. Starting with a few things coming out of CES 2023 in the Quick Hits. Samsung's micro LED TVs will come in seven sizes from 50 to 140 inches with 240 Hertz refresh rates. One of the 98 inch models will come in 8K. Now, Samsung's Neo QLED TVs will get upgrades as well, including up to 8K quantum mini LED panels at 4,000 nits of brightness. If you want an uncluttered look, the 4K QN935C TV got rid of the external connection box while keeping bezels smaller than 20 millimeters. Its top firing speakers can do Dolby Atmos without a soundbar, and it's a smart home hub that supports matter and also threat. Finally, Samsung announced its largest yet QD OLED TV at 77 inches, which comes with an AMD FreeSync and a 70 watt 4.2.2 Dolby Atmos speaker setup. Samsung had a few other announcements. Its latest Freestyle projector now includes cloud gaming and can be combined with a second Freestyle projector to automatically keystone the images into an ultrawide 21.9 aspect ratio. There's a telemedicine app coming from Samsung that compare with Samsung TVs and monitor your heart rate, heart rate variability, respiratory rate, oxygen saturation and stress. And the gaming focused HWG60C Dolby Atmos soundbar includes echo cancelling and some fun little LED lights. Well, don't leave ASUS out. They announced a 27 inch OLED monitor with all the nice color gamut and pixel control you'd expect from an OLED monitor. The ASUS model is attached with a heatsink to the rear to lower the temperature by five degrees. This is meant to combat burnout known in OLEDs. It's called the ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG-27AQ DM but there's no price or release date. There's also a 24 inch ASUS monitor, the ROG Swift Pro PG-248QP that has a 540 hertz refresh rate. Take that Alienware. Well, it's TN not IPS. It does have a very simple trick. The monitor feet can rotate in or out so you can squeeze it to fit on a narrow desk space if needed. It should sell for around $899. According to what ASUS told the Verge. Nanoleaf announced its SensePlus controls learning geometric smart lights run with matter and also threads. This is going to be a thing for 2023. They can also work with Nala. That's a smart assistant that can run on Nanoleaf's border router which attempts to learn from your habits and adjust lighting automatically depending on how you live your life. Nanoleaf also announced 4D which can mirror colors from what you're watching on TV, skylight for overhead lighting designs flushed with the ceiling and Essentials bulb and light strip with animations. Nanoleaf also promised its full line of modular light panels and light bars will be matter-upgradable later this year. JBL introduced the Tour Pro 2 with a smart charging case so you can use the case's 1.45 inch LED touch display to control your music, receive calls, messages, and notifications. Goes for $250 this spring. In the $100 range and shipping in June, though, are JBL's mid-range tune buds, tune beams, and tune flex earbuds. Stellantis announced a deal to make electric vertical takeoff and landing or EVTOL vehicles for archers flying taxi service. Plan is to start mass-producing archers midnight air taxi at a facility in Georgia starting in 2024. United Airlines is an investor in Archer and has promised to purchase the midnight vehicles once FAA approval is received. ASUS has now joined ASER in making laptops with glasses-free 3D screens. ASUS is using OLED panels. ASER uses IPS. But otherwise, they use the same lenticular lenses bonded to the screen to create that 3D effect. ASUS uses some eye tracking to help orient objects and 3D as well. You can get the 3D display on the ASUS ProArt Studio Book laptop, but we don't have a price of release date just yet. Yeah, I heard that the eye tracking wasn't that great in several different takes on that. All right, let's take a break and talk about some tech news that's not coming out of CES real quick. Rich, what we got? Yeah, we got the Wireless Power Consortium, or WPC, if you're feeling casual. They announced a new standard called CHI2. It's part of a new standard. The WPC is working with Apple to create a magnetic power profile built on the basis of Apple's MagSafe tech, and this would bring MagSafe compatibility to Android phones. CHI2 will be published later this year and replace the current CHI standard. Pour one out for standard CHI. RISCV, or RISCV, is an instruction set for making chips, similar to ARM, except that it's open source. At the RISCV summit over the holiday break, Android director of engineering Lars Bergstrom said that Google wants RISCV to be a tier one platform in Android. Bergstrom showed a slide that promised Android runtime support for Java workloads coming this quarter. Now since Android apps ship as Java code, no extra work would be needed to run on Android apps on RISCV devices. TechCrunch reports a letter sent to Salesforce employees says the company will cut 10% of its workforce around 7,000 people. The company reported in February last year that it had 79,000 employees, and that was a rise of 30% since 2020. CEO Mark Benioff took responsibility for hiring too many people in his own words as revenue accelerated throughout the pandemic. 79,000. Ireland's Data Protection Commission fined Meta 400 million euros for violating European Union privacy rules with Facebook and also Instagram. The fine stem from complaints made in 2018 that both platforms required users to accept new terms of service consenting to targeted advertising in violation of GDPR. The decision orders Meta to bring its practices into compliance in the next three months. Meta says the decision does not prevent personalized advertising and that it will also appeal the decision. And Coinbase has agreed to pay a $50 million fine after the New York State Department of Financial Services found it was failing to keep up on alerts from its transaction monitoring system. So it was monitoring for fraudulent transactions, but it had a backlog at one point of 100,000 alerts, which means it wasn't reporting them in a timely manner. Coinbase says it has since built an improved compliance tool, one would hope, and will continue to work with the agency for the next year. All right, we're here for CES. LG showed off its usual big CES centerpiece concept. In the past it included things like that rollable OLED TV that rolled down into the base this year It's a 97 inch signature OLED M3 but the news isn't the size, it's the lack of cables. It's LG's first introduction of something it calls Zero Connect. Basically it gives you a big external box that wirelessly transmits video and audio to the TV from as far away as 30 feet. And it can do up to 4K and 120 Hertz. The idea isn't to replace AirPlay or Chromecast so much as to let you put the TV wherever you want without worrying about where you're going to put your Roku or your Apple TV or your Fire TV or your VCR or whatever you're connecting. LG demonstrated it sitting on an easel in the middle of a room. So the TV, because all it needs is the power cord can kind of be wherever. Sarah, how does this work? Okay, so the box has a small built-in antenna on top of it that rotates to face the TV. Then you use voice commands to manage that giving you a little bit more flexibility on where you might put it. It includes three HDMI ports, USB, Ethernet, and also an OTA antenna input. It also supports Dolby Atmos and G-Sync. The transmission protocol is proprietary and LG says it uses an algorithm to determine the best transmission path and that helps reduce errors, interference, and latency. We don't have price or availability because that's what happens at CES but it is the signature line. So I think we would expect it to be expensive. Yeah. Yeah, the proprietary part here isn't surprising. I mean, it's a competitive advantage. If it makes its way down to eventually, you know, over the course of a couple of years to, you know, more approachable headsets, I feel that's more valuable. But I mean, this is kind of the golden goose, right, Sherilyn, for TVs, right? Just eliminating the cable clutter, right? And I have to saw through your wall I mean, can I talk about something else I saw that is a similar concept? Yeah, absolutely. But a startup called Displace. I'm not sure if we're going to talk about this later in the show, but I really literally just walked out of a meeting with them. And it's fully wireless in the sense that you don't even have mounting brackets involved. It has its own active loop vacuum technology which allows it to stick to any wall or any surface.  And it's got no wires because it's got batteries on board to power the device. It doesn't even need a power cable. Whoa. So basically, probably a lot cheaper than the LG thing. Like you said, no pricing or availability, but the Displace TV will cost at least $3,000 for a 55 inch 4K TV that's completely wireless.  Yeah, but when you compare it to the LG rollable OLED was $100,000. So, you know, your mileage may vary on that. I love the idea and I love the fact that you found another company doing this because it means we'll get it faster and probably cheaper the more companies that are doing this because I want an affordable way to just say let me just put my devices wherever is convenient and not have to have it all crunched up in a corner or whatever. I feel like there's a non-zero chance that we hear that Samsung acquires that company before the end of the season. You know, I actually support this. I will ship this. Would they be Samplace or Dissung? Oh, I don't know. Dissung sounds much better to me for some reason. Does it? Okay, yeah, let's go with that. Stick it with TVs. Many TV makers use the Roku operating system on their TVs. You have the TCL or the Hisense with Roku. Those are often co-branded. So, you'll see Roku's name on the box next to the TV maker. However, Roku announced it's going to be shipping TVs under its own brand models are going to be available in sizes ranging from 24 inches to 75 inches. There will be two main lines, the Roku Select and the Roku I'm sorry, the Roku Select TV is one of those lines. It's going to ship with the Roku Voice Remote and Roku Plus is the other line. The Roku Plus TV is the ship with the Voice Remote Pro. The Pro Remote is the one that lets you do hands-free voice commands and has a rechargeable battery. So, there's not much difference between these lines. The 24 inch model will start at $119 so pretty affordable and the 75 inch model is $999. Those are arriving this spring. Roku also separately announced a reference design for manufacturer partners like TCL and Hisense and the rest for an OLED TV that could run the Roku OS. They didn't announce any partners yet, but that might be coming from somebody at some point as well. Yeah, this is one of those things that I feel like Roku has just put our ad tech everywhere we can get it. If it has our brand on it, that's great. Our brand has, you know, some value, a lot of value with consumers, I would say. But hey, if, you know, Hisense, you want to make this reference OLED TV, we're more than happy for, you know, you to see our display ads on the side and that kind of stuff. I mean, this really is in line with where I think Roku is seeing their business. I do think it's surprising that we've waited this long, right, to see Roku branded TVs given the, I feel like there's a very positive consumer association, right, Cheryl? I don't know. I think it's hard to make hardware. I think that, especially for a business like Roku that, like, it's starting to, like you said, put its feelers out into a lot of different industries, making its own content, Roku TV shows and stuff like that. I think that's what the delay was maybe related to. But yeah, I don't know. I feel confused about Roku's strategy in general. It's like, you're trying everything. Yeah, well, I think they just want to see what makes money and then go that direction, which is why you see them doing more ads and selling more TVs. Because they're selling more TVs than set-top boxes. Well, and how many people say, oh, I love Roku, a Roku TV? Yeah, that makes more sense. You know, it's all built into the same unit. I feel like, I'm surprised that Roku didn't do this earlier, and yeah, we're now at the point where if you're going to sell a Roku branded TV to somebody who's like, cool with cutting the cord, this is how I watched my things, you know, that then I think they're going to sell a lot of TVs. And don't forget, Roku is already doing branded soundbars. They're doing branded surround systems that all tie into their proprietary system, right? You cannot use a lot of their, especially like their surround speakers and stuff like that. You can't use those with other systems. It's kind of all wirelessly work with Roku's tech. So, you know, they've kind of put their brand name on their home theater, you know, kind of stuff more directly than just Dreambox's before. Roger, you pointed out that this brings in kind of support that they've had to build out if they're going to be selling their own TVs as opposed to high sensor TCL or something like that. So, definitely a more involved effort for sure. Yeah, having to take on the customer support is a big thing. So that's one of the reasons they probably wanted to wait until they were ready to handle that. The other thing is my guess is they were seeing the best manufacturing capability because, again, just like they rebrand wise stuff to sell Roku smart home stuff, they're not building these TVs themselves. We don't know who they're getting yet to build these, but somebody's building them and they're just putting the Roku name on them as they come out of the factory to Roku's designs and specs and all of that. So, my guess is they wanted to see which of their partners would give them the best deal and they finally figured it out. Well, the information sources say that Microsoft is planning to integrate chat GPT into the Bing search engine by the end of March. Instead of searching through a list of results you could ask for what you want and you could get it. But Google has its own chat GPT-like projects being reluctant to incorporate them into search for fear of reputational risk. We've talked about this on the show before. Chat algorithms are impressive, but they can be unreliable as well. In fact, open AI CEO Sam Altman has said in the past it's a mistake to be relying on chat GPT for anything important right now. However, back on December 22nd, remember December 22nd, way back in the day, the New York Times reported that Google issued a code red over the rise of chat GPT. There's no information on how Microsoft might be incorporating chat GPT into Bing rather than just say that they're interested in doing so or what limitations or safeguards it might use. This is a big deal. Microsoft does not confirm this. This is just information sources. But they're good sources. If Bing does put chat GPT front and center, even in a beta, it's going to get a lot of eyes on Bing that would not be on Bing otherwise. This is shocking to me because Microsoft already kind of a little bit on the conservative side, I would say. They don't have cash cow so it's like if they lose customers on Bing, it's not the end of the world for them. But they're also the same company that made the Tay chat bot. This to me speaks of the confidence that they must if this is true, that chat GPT if they implement it will not immediately lead to that situation because they know that has to be the narrative that's going to be when they initially roll that out, right? I think they have to be so careful. I can't remember where I heard this but they were apparently looking at inserting AI and not necessarily just chat GPT into some of their other apps maybe like a paint type of situation. It was a powerpoint kind of app. Also office apps, right? So they are looking at using AI to their advantage to sort of maybe differentiate them or help them compete with Google. I see Google as like a big leader in AI. I think that Google has the data and the algorithms and the processing power to do all of that stuff. Maybe that's where Microsoft feels like it's falling short and if chat GPT is getting so much attention, right? They are like jumping on the hype train. Microsoft is trying to buy a Tay talk. They tried to buy a Tay talk. They want to be young. This is true. They are trying to change the narrative on them for sure. Theoretically they came out with this and Google is still trying to figure out how they are going to implement that again because that is their cash cow. They have to be super slow on that kind of stuff to be a way to be a springboard and get some more eyes on Bing that otherwise might not be there.  OpenAI puts a lot of its stuff out in the public but Microsoft gets it first. So the chat GPT we see right now is not the one that Microsoft has access to. Microsoft has access to one that's a couple of versions down the road from that. Maybe it's good enough. That's the question, right? It's like, okay, let's say I'm using Bing and I'm using it for search, the way that I use search engines for search all the time. But there's some version of chat GPT that's like the better version. Only apply it to Bing and how quickly do I get used to that and say this is the only way I can search now? Yeah. It quickly offends everybody.  It could go either way or some other way. Folks, we love to get ideas from you about what to talk about on the show. A lot of the stuff in this show it made it in because the tiebreaker was the subreddit. If you were on the subreddit submitting stories and voting on them, we appreciate it. And if you're not, go jump in. You can let us know what you like to hear on the show at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com. All right. The best part of CES is not only the gadgets that we all want, but the weird and sometimes odd products that are also announced at the show. So let's talk about some of the ones that have caught our eye. Yeah, this one's not terribly weird. HP showed off two new models of its Dragonfly laptop line, usually thought of as enterprise laptops. But these are meant for people who don't want to wade through all the specs. The 14-inch Dragonfly Pro and the Dragonfly Pro Chromebook. The Dragonfly Pro runs on an AMD Ryzen 7 CPU has a haptic trackpad, fingerprint scanner, four little hotkeys off to one side that three of them are pre-programmed for tech support, control center and camera, one that you can program. And then the Dragonfly Chromebook which runs on a 12th gen Intel Core i5 with an RGB keyboard that you can light up with some customizable colors. Both of these coming in spring. They're as stylish as the Dragonfly laptops usually are. Sherilyn wrote this up for Engadget. You said the elite Dragonflies are Hermes to these new Dragonflies Michael Kors. I might have said Chanel to Laway, but I totally get what you mean. Yeah. Who do you think these really are for? I feel, I don't know. Honestly, I don't know. HP has an imaginary cache of people in its head where they're like, I feel like people also like the process of going through that selection list. Sometimes I get that there's a lot of things to wade through these days, like 8 or 16 gigs of Rambo 32, and then weighing the different price differentials between all those tiers. But in HP's mind, there is a subset of people that are no. I just want two things to choose from the higher storage or the lower storage. And that's what you get with the Dragonfly Pro which is the Windows machine. You get two options. The Chromebook is just the one. It's the Intel Core i5. I'm sure there are people that are overwhelmed with this. I think it's really hard for me to relate to that as a person who has been a PC geek for this long. It's hard to understand. They have the data, so I'm assuming they know what they're talking about. The funny thing to me was that there are so many differences between the Chromebook version and the Windows version. When it said it wanted to make your decision easy, no, one has the RGP keyboard, the other has the row of customizable keys. Like I get you can't put customizable keys really on Chrome OS because different mapping of their shortcuts, everything is trickier. But then give me RGP on the Windows one. I like the RGP a lot. Or the fingerprint scanner. You can do fingerprint scanner in Android. Why couldn't you do it? And then the Android one has material you theming too. They worked with Google on bringing some of that personalization into the Chromebook. And that's part of what makes it colorful too. But yeah, I think you could find a way to do that in Microsoft and in Windows. Yeah, I feel like, yeah. Windows, you can do stuff with. And then weirdly, the webcams are different too. I could go on all day about the differences, but yeah, there's interesting choices. It's simple. They're vastly different. All right, well, one thing that's not different is my love for this next thing, because if you've ever wondered what birds are feasting in your feeder, there's a new smart bird feeder. It's called BirdBuddy. It includes a detachable webcam that lets you a little watch live where you can see your bird DVR. I get to say bird DVR. It uses algorithms to identify birds. If it's a sparrow, a finch, some sort of, I don't know, Gobler or whatever. Well, yeah, I mean, hopefully not. And it also has a companion app that gives you badges for collecting different birds. It has some fun gamification features there. Plus, there's an optional solar roof to help keep it charged. You can also opt into sharing and viewing birds from different BirdBuddy users. You don't have to do that, but it is kind of nice. It also comes in hummingbird and regular bird feeder. So depending on your bird proclivity, you are covered no word on pricing or availability. But as you can tell, I'm a little psyched for this. Yeah, and this isn't the only model that does this. This is just the one you saw at CES. But yeah, it does sound fun if you're into birds, for sure. It's weird with this kind of, basically like a ring doorbell, like surveillance tech, but brings me delight for birds. So that makes me happy. Yeah, I do like the idea of a bird DVR.   I think this would be the next natural step of anybody who's kind of excited about that to just be able to check on them from the comfort of your warm house. Well, Nicky Ackermans, our signs corresponded is testing an audio version of this. So I wonder if they could just combine those together. Yeah. Japan's Driver X won a CES Innovation Award for its contact glove. The glove combines hand tracking and haptics to give a user more feel in VR. So you're able to grasp things and feel the textures of them. It's compatible with HTC Vive and SteamVR, available on Kickstarter, starting at 65,000 yen, shipping in July. If you're a VTuber and you want a whole body solution, Panasonic would like you to check out ShiftDoll's Haritura X, a wireless full body tracking system for SteamVR that offers controllable torso and legs in VR. Works with four bands, so one around the chest, one around the hips, knees, and ankles, kind of similar to Sony's one for $350, but no ship date yet. And ShiftDoll has also got a flip VR hand controller. This is a very VTuber problem. It straps to your palm so that you can flip out your hand controller temporarily and take a drink without having to put the controller down and breaking the illusion. Yeah, this is definitely, it seems like a trend of kind of extending like VR AR kind of interface. I also saw B haptics had their Taksuit X40, which is like this big vest that has gloves, actually looked a little slimmer in some ways, like a little bit more put together. But yeah, definitely a trend I've seen here at CES for sure. All right. All right, y'all. We've been waiting. The time is now. Why things showed off what it's calling the U-Scan, which is a analyzer for urine, human urine, that you can mount on your toilet. It can detect not any kind of urine, just human urine. It can detect individual urine streams based on movement and distance with a replaceable cartridge needed to conduct tests. You might say, what in the heck is going on here? The cycle sync cartridge can measure ovulation and the neutral balance cartridge measures ketones, vitamin C, pH, hydration, all things that are actually pretty important, but come out in your urine. Each cartridge holds about 100 tests, lasts about three months, microfluidics pull in urine from the device into the cartridge and then send results by Wi-Fi to an app. So it's, you know, it's pretty plug-and-play. Users in Europe can buy the U-Scan for 499 euros, and that starts in Q2 with one of each cartridge included. Why things is still waiting for US FDA approval, however. So, Shirlen and Rich, you saw this sort of an action. Tom was like, I want you to tell me about it, but not. I don't want to see video. We're getting ready to actually test this. Good, good, good. I just can see the future where this goes very, very dark. I'm from Singapore and I can see the government wanting to install this in every home and being like, well you're in test you every day because they're very, like a, what's Singapore for like a paternal kind of a government where they're like your mom. Yeah, paternal. Yeah, and they're like, okay, well are you eating enough vegetable? But worse than that, like Singapore is a very strict drug, like legal system against drugs. And recently said that if Singaporean citizens even like consume or partake in cannabis abroad, that's still considered breaking the law.  This is just me speculating really hard. I did my co-worker Daniel Cooper who saw this for us at unveil yesterday had a good point of like, there's a lot of privacy issues related to a device like this, especially when they want to bring it over to the U.S. So it's not just waiting on FDA. I think they have a lot of, it withings has a lot of things they need to figure out before this product will be even seen stateside. Yeah, just the tech angle, it was kind of impressive our producer Amos was asking to kind of fit into their broader ecosystem of stuff. And that is the more interesting if you are really into this quantified self and you really do want this information you want to bring that into yourself. I do think it's important that they are integrating that for all of their different smart scales and wearables that they have out there as well and kind of creating just a broader ecosystem for themselves too. Yeah, I'm all for this until you tell me it's not on device. When it went into the cloud, suddenly I got real like not for me yet. I love the use of microfluidics. I love the ability to just have it there and the fact that they can actually tell whose stream it is and sort that. I think if it works is crazy impressive and I could see how an algorithm could be trained to recognize that stuff but yeah, I don't want this going into anybody's cloud, them or anybody else. Well, another kind of health wearable we saw there at Unveiled was the no watch. They showed off a screenless wearable that can track health and wellness metrics without the ideas and not to lose your user with notifications like we have the typical smartwatch. It uses kind of the form of a round watch but instead of a face or a screen on it has interchangeable gemstone faces that don't actually show information, they just kind of look cool. It uses a Philips Electrodermal Activity Sensor to track stress levels with vibrations to make users aware of potential stressors just kind of being like hey, take a second to maybe take a deep breath or something like that. Battery lasts up to four days and it's available next week for $500. So price and release, a true rarity at CDS. Look at that. I don't get this one. My problem is if it wasn't a watch, if it was like a belt buckle that you could wear or something like because I totally get the idea of I don't necessarily want to have to wear an Apple watch all the time to get the very useful analytics that you can get like health metrics that you can get out of it and I think a lot of people are like that but they still want to have traditional watch but still want to have access to that and I feel like this is an attempt to do that. The fact that they're making it very much a watch face and they told me at the booth that they are actually going to come out with just like a quartz watch face that you can just slap in there to make it a watch but with no smarts. I guess that's, I don't know, like it's very fashionable. I did think it looked nice. I did think it looked really nice but people are going to say, oh what's that watch? Oh it's a no watch. There was a whole brand or a company called Bella Beat and it's the original version of the Halo which is its own screen free wearable that tracks all the same things. It just doesn't vibrate to tell you, hey you're stressed. You're stressed. You're stressed. Chill. I don't know. I feel like there's something about the concept that doesn't sit right with me. It means it gets some hands on with it. Yeah, for sure. IKOMA showed off its Tata Mall electric motorbike that can collapse down into a 110 pound square with a very large suitcase. It can get up to 25 miles per hour on its 600 watt motor and go 18 miles on a charge. Also includes USB and AC outlets so it can act as a charging device as well when it's not in bike mode. Costs $4,000. Aw man. I wanted it until that. Rich, you said that their demonstration made this look more like an e-commerce or a thing for companies to have rather than a personal scooter. I didn't see this on a lot of the coverage on it because everyone's saying if the range isn't great it's not very comfortable. Digital signage is what this is really all about. They had demos where they just had a big LCD on the side of it so you can put either a third-party ad or your own business on there and then when you fold it up the display is still fully available. You'd be able to get that. That I feel like is the missing piece and I feel like in a lot of urban markets where there's a lot of that advertising already that could definitely be like the delivery I don't know, I could see a food cart person do this as their delivery aspect and people could charge their phones on it while they're waiting for the food unless there's a delivery ad. Once you said that, my mind started going elsewhere. I'm like okay, maybe this one does make more sense than I thought. Well, keeping with the theme of fun things at CES Japan's Arama Join showed off a product that adds smells to videos.  Scents are created from a replaceable cartridge including things like grapefruit, campfire, bread, and burning rubber. You know, for car videos, come on. Sure, I guess. They carry about a foot away from the wearer so if you're saying is this going to impact me? Well, if your foot away from the wearer maybe, the Aroma player can sync with phones, PCs, or VR headsets using Bluetooth. Battery life is around two days with normal use. We don't have price or availability but we do have potential smells. They have been trying to make us smell the web since the dot-com boom. I mean, it's just, I mean... Nobody wants to smell the web. Smells aren't going to happen.  I want to make everyone smell durians. Oh, God. Well... And once we do, we say no more smell. It's an advertisement for that food cart that I was mentioning. Yeah, there you go. Alright, well next up here is GE's profile kitchen mixer. It won a CES Innovation Award. The profile's mixing bowl acts as a scale. Autosense the text changes in texture and viscosity and adjusts speed according to what recipe you're following. You can control it through your voice, through Amazon or Google. The GE Profile Smart Mixer is available for $999. Now making the KitchenAid Mixer not seems so expensive. It is a little pricey but mixers are pretty pricey and I like these features. I didn't think I would when I started reading about this but I'm like, oh, a scale that can automatically tear so that as you're adding things, you don't have to do math in your head. It'd be like, oh no, we knew you had two ounces in there and you added three ounces of that. I don't know, this is sort of compelling to come down a little bit. Now you add in a tovala baking service where all of a sudden you're like, I want to make chocolate chip cookies tonight. Boom. All the ingredients are here.  You scan the QR code. Boom, boom, boom. Thermomix makes something like this that's also a scale into it but they're more of a blender as a system mixer. I think we're seeing kitchen gadgets get smarter and smarter. Yeah, and not just, oh, we put Wi-Fi in it but Mooy Labs showed off their second-generation Mooy board. It's a screenless, wood smart home interface that uses LEDs to show information. When not in use, it looks just like a piece of wood. The second gen adds matter support, as do all things at CES these days. Pre-orders open in June on Kickstarter for $599 shipping in November. Did you see this, Rich? Yeah, it totally caught my eye. It's just, it looks like the IKEA design of a smart home hub and I was expecting when I touched it, oh, it's going to be laminated. It's like a plastic veneer. It feels, it is a piece of wood that, so like, it is a very different tactile experience and it has pixel art and I'm a sucker for that and they knew it. They knew it. Yeah, put LEDs into the wood.  I am not. That's not like you're pricing either. That's more like Moogy. Yeah, definitely. If this thing was entirely white and had like a humidifier attached to it, that's exactly what came with the cool notebook, yeah. Well, everybody knows, at least if you go to CES regularly, that L'Oreal is a regular.  Using tech from Alphabet's Verily to guide the controls. Brow Magic, this one caught my eye. Get it? My eye? Brow Magic uses 2400 small nozzles and can print at 1200 drops per inch to make the perfect eyebrow. Brow Magic will be available later this year. How much though? I don't know. How much will you pay for Brow Magic? Well, not that much to be honest, Tom. I feel like you have some thoughts on this. I bought a L'Oreal eyebrow pencil for like three bucks a month or something. Two bucks over two months. What is this going to cost? I really think the Hapta thing is a cool idea. I wish it did more than just apply lipstick. We saw the devices at the booth at Avail yesterday. They looked more finished than I thought they would be. They didn't look like janky prototypes. But as with a lot of L'Oreal's tech that they unveiled at CES, they tend to be like for salons or not really for your at-home use. It's a cool idea at all. It just sounds like a nightmare in the making. The cost of printer ink added to eyebrows is perhaps interesting and also perilous for your fun. I feel the opposite. I'm like, do it. Let's do it. I can't wait to see. I have to try this out and see what type of brows they would print out for me. I'm very particular about my makeup. I know my face, I know what goes where and does this printer know? How much control can I have over this printer? How much control do you have over it after that? It would be the question, right? Right. We also sometimes don't know the best for our brows. That's just how things work. Your mileage may vary. Indeed. Well, this has been a fun, fun CES roundup with some other news going on on the show. Thank you to Sheryl and Lowe for being with us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you to Sheryl and Lowe for being with us. We know you're very busy putting in the steps. Let folks know where they can keep up with everything else that you're doing. Yeah. All my work is on angadge.com and if you just want to chill, hang out, chat, I'm on Twitter still at Sheryl and Lowe. Very cool. We also want to thank our brand new boss. 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Hi Nikolas, hi, thanks. Hello. Hi, Michael, very good to see you again. Nice to see you again after such a long time. Exactly. Thank you for having us here and we've been working with Michael and Silica for a number of years and now like Michael to show some of the products that we've been collaborating together and they have on their son. Very good to have you. So maybe just to mention this is the Avnitsilika booth we have here. So we are a distributor, we work very close with ST Microelectronics. So we have a very, very good cooperation with them. So in fact what we have here is a kind of AI, so artificial intelligence, machine learning, vision, experience. So what I would do maybe is to explain a bit more in detail about the demos we have. Let me show you. So it's in fact what we do here is we show case two demos. So we have one specifically focused on vision. The other one is focused on machine learning with kind of classification. So this is the demo we have for people talking. So you see here an SD board where we have an STM32H747. So this is the discovery board, so this is used for development purposes. You also have a miniature camera module which is put on a board which is connected then to the discovery board. So what we do here is, so as you can see we capture people around here. So it's people counting, it can be used for access control for example. It can also be used for occupancy detection in a room so to know how many people enter a room and to limit the maximum amount of people for example. And so by the way what you see here is the output, you can see the output on the screen but it's very small, it's very limited. But you'll see it also here the number of people it recognizes. So it's an object detection tool in fact and this is how you can see it as a demo. In addition we also have another demo, so this is focused on anomaly detection. So it's a nuclear board, so it's also an SD Microelectronics board and what we have here is there is a kind of fan connected to this board and we can detect if there is an issue with the fan for example and that's why we call it clocked fan. So that means for example what you can see here and I don't know if you need to zoom in. But you see for example here the results. When you for example put something in front of the fan then there is an issue, it's clocked. So the background of this is or the most important to tell about this is that in fact here you can implement machine learning by using a standard algorithm but you can also implement it that it's completely automatic learning itself. And then afterwards when there is a kind of anomaly which is not typically happening then it will do the detection. So this is very nice because then you even do not have to create your algorithm in detail. In fact you have it then available already. You just restart the board, it will start learning and after a while when it learns the algorithm itself automatically it will be able to detect if there is an anomaly for example if you have something in front of it and then it knows there is an issue. This can be of course with a fan but you can imagine this also is like a motor control for example where you have an issue. So this is in fact how it is implemented. So you have a lot of business going on with ST? Yeah absolutely. We work already many years with ST. So it's a very nice and very good cooperation we have. Especially also with Marceli. So Marceli is the guy that supports us a lot. So he's in the neighborhood again. So yeah we have a very close relationship. Of course. Already many years. I remember we've been working in AI for what? Three years now more? Four or even more. Even more. Before COVID. Yeah before COVID. Exactly. But I think like it's about four or five years ago. Five years at least. We also organized like what we called an AI discovery day. Webinars, seminars and seminars. And also live physical events. Yes before COVID. Before COVID. Before COVID. And hopefully we will return to that. Maybe we will do it again. I'm quite sure. Hopefully it doesn't take too long. At least we are here now today. Exactly. And you can show the customers. Exactly. How does it feel to be in a real show with real people? Well it's a kind of relief I would say. Because after getting stuck and being stuck at home I would say it's really nice to be here. And to see so many people because now you recognize what it feels to have physical contact. We have not seen each other for three years. And now we can see each other here. So it's great to be here. It's very nice. And it's so nice to see the ST booth. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. This is 2019. Yeah. Absolutely. It's been a great year. Perfect. Thanks Michael again. Thank you very much. I will take Nikolas to Trusilogio just for his moment. Okay. Thank you. All right. I also have a power section here. So here is Giorgio Gallo. Hello Michael. Good morning. How are you? Good morning. I'm fine. Again Giorgio is a very, very well respected person within ST. I don't think there's a person within ST who doesn't know Giorgio. He's a famous guy. Thank you. And Giorgio is specializing in the power products. So Giorgio maybe would like to show something of what you're showing and telling the customers about power. I'm Giorgio Gallo. I'm based in Italian technology especially. I'm taking care about power solution and especially high power solution. And we love ST for several reasons. First of all, we speak also Italian together with some of the colleagues. But ST solution are perfect especially for high power and new technology are great. WIPGAM, silicon carbide and gallium nitride solutions are perfect. Here you can see solution also from the support point of view. We have a lot of reference design for customer developing battery charger for electrical vehicle. We have bi-directional solutions. This board is shown at STM Boots today. And so we are receiving a great support even from the technical point of view, software point of view, thermal point of view. ST is able to support our activity to celebrate the customer design. What are we seeing here? Oh, this is bi-directional interface for a normal charger.  This is the front end. This is the part of the equipment connected to the grid. So when you plug your car in the grid, this is the front end. So what's the energy to the car? You move the energy from the car to the vehicle and in the future you will move the energy also from the vehicle to the grid. Bi-directional? Bi-directional. One way and the other way. So ST making components are very reliable for high power stuff? Yes, absolutely. So what is very good about ST is that the solutions are very reliable. First of all, in this kind of technology, we are talking about silicon carbide. It's the number one in the world. So the quality is extremely high and ST can demonstrate the quality and the reliability based on facts. Fast means there are many equipment in the field and ST can demonstrate their ability of the product, not because number of paper, but because there are a lot of equipment working properly since here and many of us are using this kind of equipment or are driving this kind of vehicle. When you do projects with high power, are you a little bit nervous? Something goes bad? No, no. I'm dealing with power since the very beginning of my career. I used to develop equipment for aerospace, the high-born, this kind of application. And so I'm not nervous. So it's just a matter of you need to be comfortable in dealing with power. And you have to work together with the other. Of course, you have to involve also the people having more competencies, specifically maybe on a certain part. Let me give you an example. For example, this is a new package that ST developed and it's very smart because it is the only SMD module available in the market today. Stop site cooling. So this is something new for me. With ST we are working together. I'm calling the people, the people are supporting me because maybe I never use this kind of package and I'm receiving all the support I need to converge and to develop something for my customer. Sometimes, is it like you have the connection with the customer, they have requests, you have requests, you get over the ST, they make you a project and it happens after a few months or a year Typically, in certain cases we receive input from customers, in certain cases we also identify the customers that are potentially good customers for certain technologies. So we are proactively engaging some customers. Sometimes we are receiving input from customers because they have a special need. So what's happened next is typical I'm dealing with my counterpart in ST. We discuss about the project, the needs, also because we have a visibility much larger than the visibility that our customers have. So, typically we interact, we discuss one to each other, we prefer the meeting, we decide how to properly approach the customer depending on the needs and maybe the customer needs technical needs, maybe also there is something related to the fact that the customer has to do something to take into consideration several aspects of the project, not only the technical aspect, but also when the certain part has to be, has to be, has to move into production. So, and typically we are working together so there are no special secrets, working together, discussing together and supporting one to each other to find the best solution to help customers to converge. Such cooperation is we were doing EV charging webinars together, for example, earlier this year and we are planning to do more of those webinars so that Siddica can bring their customers closer to our products and we can win together some nice opportunities and make sure that those customers are using the latest and greatest technology when it comes to the EV charging or charging in general. Without asking for any secret specifics, I guess there are some really cool projects, people do amazing stuff and you know about it and make it happen. Sure. Especially for new technologies, so silicon carbine and gallium nitride, there are many cool projects and I'm sure we'll see, also you will see something on the road soon. Typically we have an NDA in place with customer and ST as well and we are working together, so I'll say this is one of the reasons why often we ask information, detailed information to customers because maybe we have some good solution in our pocket but the solution is not public yet because the market is very competitive. So it is happening and we are already aware about some product which will be available in the market maybe during the next one to year and we are working daily with this kind of product. What's in the market next one to years when you come to the secret information? No. What do you really want to see? Because it will prove you from some secrets. The stuff will be faster, smaller, better and cooler. And cheaper, right? I'm joking. But for the customer I'm sure it will be because if things are smaller then you have to use a smaller heat sink, then you have to use smaller components. It's lighter so eventually the customer will be driving a lighter car further. The car might cost a little bit more but if it's better then they will save some money. No, sure. So what is happening? Vehicle electrification for example is a mega trend, is evident. It's not just related to the electrical vehicles but many other vehicles you may have in the... we may use for example the small tractor you find in an airport or the forklift you find in an industry. And so many vehicles which have been mechanics in the past are becoming electrical. You have more efficient, more green, you are not producing pollution. For example you have a forklift moving in another life this one they are producing pollution. The need for electrical vehicles is evident not only because of the efficiency, the noise but also because there are people inside and of course you don't want to smell fumes or maybe you have also a small equipment to clean up the floor. There are mega trends. All vehicles not talking just about cars but buses, something to move the aircraft from the parking place or equipment to clean up the floor will be electrical. And this is a mega trend and ST has perfect solution. Number one in the market, best part we are receiving a great support so there are many good reasons to work together. Thank you very much, Georgia. Thank you very much. Thanks Nicolas for having us here.