me who live here in the village if I'd heard anything at a select board meeting about our village water system being super low because of the the drought and I said I hadn't so that's nothing I need to ask about because anything you haven't heard about if you want to ask about it during the meeting we could but there's no there's no um we're not experiencing any problems with that okay okay well then I won't worry about it I want to interrupt me I just I just I just wondered um okay thank you yep hey Frank did you see your picture in the paper this last week yeah I do yep Jerry was so funny ghost you got to know this guy in the orange jacket I don't know his name you I'm sure you know him I said yeah that's right yep all right with six o'clock and we don't have anyone else in the waiting room I'll keep an eye on that just in case but um we'll start this with our our script for the uh these COVID times as chair of the Rochester Select Board I find that due to the state of emergency declared by Governor Scott as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic and pursuant to addendum 6 to executive order 01-20 and act 92 this public body is authorized to meet electronically in accordance with act 92 there is no physical location to observe and listen contemporaneously to this meeting however in accordance with the temporary amendments to the open meeting law I confirm that we are providing public access to the meeting by either telephone video or other electronic means and we're using the Zoom platform for that and um all members of the board have the ability to communicate contemporaneously during this meeting through this platform and the public has access to contemporaneously listen and if desired participate in this meeting and you can find out how to get this information this contact by either contacting the town clerk to request the invitation specifically on email or you can view it on the town website or you can find it on the publicly posted agendas for the meeting um and here you here we are and nobody else is in the waiting room so at this time we'll um ask for any additions to the agenda as it was posted does anyone have anything else I want to add to that you and I have a question yeah we have the tax map um contract that we need to renew is that something that I would have to put on the next agenda for you to approve and sign yeah we wouldn't be able to approve that tonight but I guess we could um to put that on to the um meeting the agenda for the next next yeah okay uh Robert Frank's here yeah Robert do you have something you want to add to the agenda uh regarding the board of civil authority of Rochester minutes that have been uh denied by me regarding the election in 2018 I really truly want to bring this up to Frank to Patty to you to Martha and Nancy all right all right so um the get on to the agenda so um speaking of minutes we have the prior meetings minutes from the September 14th meeting and I didn't see any corrections to those so I'd move to approve those I second it all in favor aye aye okay and then we also had our special select board meeting on September 21st to um deal with the tax rate and I that looked right to me I'd move to approve those minutes and I second that all in favor aye aye okay may I interrupt who's that Robert it is Robert yep and I'm requesting the minutes from the two meetings that you and Patty just shared to make them public to the public they they are public to the public they are you can go on to the website and then and read those um if you want the meetings are also covered covered in zoom you can actually go on to the town website and click right on the link to the zoom coverage of the meeting so then you have not only the written minutes but the actual um video documentation of the meeting so you have ample opportunities to check those out and there were articles about them in the herald as well yeah yeah well let's just go back I requested minutes of the board of civil authority from Rochester for the last two years you patty frank they've all received the emails of last night including will sending Eric where are the minutes of the board of civil authority of Rochester reflecting back to 2018 election day at 7 12 in the morning I what happened what happened I think is extremely covered by the media the board of civil authority meant to count the votes and then immediately communicated those votes to the state of Vermont which then of course you have all sorts of media you got npr you got the white river valley herald you got the I mean the minutes that the board of civil authority meeting for that election was our report of those minutes was the results of the election that's the action of the board of civil authority results of the election the results of the election were not previst by what happened on the town clerk's office of Rochester in 2018 by Joanne McDonald illegally towing cars we really need to get into this because going forward with COVID the new election polling station and the rules I I really want to put this forth to you doon patty frank and anyone else including Martha the select board of Rochester does not create the rules for election day the authority the town clerk sets the rules for election day no actually yes yeah but but in terms of your your request your original request for minutes to the meeting there was no civil board of authority meeting that dealt with the issue that you're referring to this is the the meeting of the board of civil authority was to conduct the counting of the vote seat election the actual conducting of the voting is under the purview of the town clerks which it will do and McDonald committed in the valley news that she would go before the board of civil authority after she did illegal actions on the town clerk's office of Rochester towing cars screaming at 7 12 in the morning I'm asking for those minutes doon she never went to that meeting never happened rather that they she dealt with that mistake on her part and no it's not a mistake on her part it's a mistake on the town's part where are the minutes of Joanne McDonald's commitment to go to the in front of the board of civil authority of Rochester to present her misconduct against the town that meeting did not happen that meeting should have happened but it did not happen so there are no minutes for it so oh so you're you're saying to me that Joanne McDonald's commitment to the board of civil authority of Rochester announced in the paper the valley news you're telling me that Joanne McDonald never shared those minutes there were no minutes why were there not no minutes I already answered that question three times no because that meeting did that meeting did not happen doon I'm going to make I'm going to make I'm going to make public this quote to patty nancy martha frank and jet at 10 23 election day 2018 you approached Rob McFadden's bus and you had the authority or the audacity to approach him and say Rob don't you know we have unwritten rules in this town we let me re-quote that this is doon the chair of the select board of Rochester approaching the bus that was parked legally on the town parking lot and you said to Rob McFadden Rob don't you know we have unwritten rules in this town that's a question that I think Nancy martha frank and patty should look at can you just think about the words Rob we heard that already Robert so the point is there was an ongoing understood policy unwritten by Joanne which then we corrected by putting in writing in response to the uproar that ensued from this and it was that if you're going to be campaigning and leaving campaign signs that you needed to be present to do that that's not a so that's what happened and it was no no no that's not what happened so the towing of of the truck from the town parking lot in 2018 on election day yes who who paid the time who paid the fee Joanne did right yeah why in recognition of her mistake and her regret for her actions there it is not her mistake it's the town of Rochester's mistake to make certain that the town clerk just as I put forth to you patty and Frank Severy last night with email supporting uh support from the uh mr. sending up at the state house secretary state office to look into this this is total improper all I'm trying to say to you do Frank patty is to make certain that election rules are regulated announced and publicized to the public so a candidate cannot do you know do you know at 10 of 8 on the election day of 2018 Joanne McDonald insisted that Robert McFadden come to the town of Rochester to put to pay a towing fee we changed our entire campaign we were to be in Bethel at 8 o'clock in the morning we had to come under Joanne McDonald's illegal jurisdiction to say you need to come to Rochester to pay a towing fee Robert and I rode into Rochester and then you step onto the bus and say don't you know we have unwritten rules in this town so we moved the entire campaign from all the electoral votes and people from Bethel to Rochester and then we were exposed to Joanne McDonald screaming and yelling and then you come out and say hey Rob don't you know we have unwritten rules in this town what the hell are the unwritten rules so that ruined the entire campaign and Joanne McDonald Joanne McDonald I was at Deerings that morning after this happened it was the most most defilement of democracy I ran up to Rob to JD's John was on his way to tow the truck illegally he tows the truck and Joanne McDonald says you can't do that and he's like it's already done so I I don't really Martha can report whatever she wants to report Nancy can you know talk I don't really care I just want to make certain that 2020 is locked down with rules and regulations at the at the high school not at the town clerk's office so we're we are going to go back into Joanne McDonald's conduct as the town clerk in 2018 even after 2020's election because that was a debauchery dude let me ask you this question oh can I see Pat Ms. Gut comment she wants to make her in my hand that um I take the unwritten rule comment as referring to something that is like common courtesy and common sense those are the golden rule the unwritten rules that's what I think that that those two words really meant in in in that day is that we exercise common courtesy towards one another in this town and we exercise common sense and those are unwritten rules kind of like the golden rule no patty no no unwritten rules in the democracy the united states of america are unwritten and you cannot you cannot subject a candidate to be reprimanded by a town clerk who's illegally performing those rules can she uh you keep to you keep insisting that she illegally did that but in the reality of the mont statues the town clerk has got the jurisdiction for conducting the elections and she does have the say over what what happens in the polling in the polling place so it's you can back off on the illegally there's no question that it was it was a mistake and she overreacted and she felt terrible for that in my approaching the bus and trying to enter in dialogue with you as an attempt to smooth the waters and calm everyone down I see that two years later it still has not taken that effect so I suppose you would rather you just had no communication do let me just say this you quoted me as this obsession with regards to 2018's election day from 712 till noon that day you communicated it's my obsession it is not my obsession it's the democracy of america's obsession i don't if if joey mcdonald made a major major major mistake that day i could not believe what i experienced at 712 she was screaming at me telling me to leave to get my truck off the parking lot it wasn't my truck i didn't know whose truck it was that ruined our campaign you know whose truck it was it was rob mcfad's truck and we have we have video of the legal distance of where a truck should be parked as as said in the select board before you and frank rob mcfad or rob cratley has the measurements and he was totally legal okay so i think that what i want to bring this around to and which is i think in essence the point that i'm guessing you want to make is that that nothing like this debacle happens and the election that is coming up right dune that's exactly right it's not about robert frank's it's about the democracy of america right so all i want to make certain is that hold on when you say okay that means robert shut up the the no you there is on the agenda an issue that deals with this very topic and and it's addressing the very thing that you're concerned about and it's already on the agenda so we'll um hopefully that will put you at ease a little bit with that there's clearly stated um you know directives about how things are going to work with the the temporary polling station down at the school okay so um you were included you patty frank were included with the messages and emails i sent off to wilson and at the secretary of state's office eric covey i just want to make certain that they are in in in sequenced synced with what is going to go on for election day in 2020 on november 3rd because i guarantee you something is going to go wrong and by the way there are what do you mean some well okay you're how can you guarantee something like that robert do you have something planned no what i'm saying is is that the town clerk okay there are state rules regarding election day they are they are the rules from the state the secretary of state's office the town clerk then has jurisdiction over those micro rules that she can just throw out like towing a truck i don't want that to happen again yeah i don't anticipate in that happen again unless there's someone parks a truck in uh in a spot where it's been dedicatedly said that it there should be nothing parked then we would tell something but the rules not that were written down yeah the parking spot where the truck was parked was not designated all right we're talking about in in november of 2020 now that's that's that's the main thing here is what's happening now and going forward we we understand that it was um it was a mess before there was a problem and we've taken steps to clarify what is to happen in this next election and i think that is what you're concerned about correct that is all i'm concerned about right just make just make certain that everyone whether it's a whoever votes whoever moves onto the parking lot or drives onto the parking lot whether it's a candidate or a 93 year old senior citizen that all they want to do is vote yep yep but they don't want to have constrictions of of what happened in 2018 okay well the um i don't think any voters were constricted in 2018 that was actually non rochester residents that were affected by that so it's not that did not that's not what happened in 2018 no voters were constricted or refuse access so be clear about that voters were constricted a candidate was constricted and called and summoned by the town clerk to pay a fine for a towing fee so you might do and you might sit there and say no no uh well you mentioned the constriction of voters and i'm just making the point that i don't believe any voters were were blocked or constricted from voting in 2018 so um if you're a candidate running for select board or these a senate seat or the house seat and you're restricted by a town and the chair of the select board of the town you're trying to win votes in quote do you do not know we have uh unwritten rules in this town okay we're starting to go in circles now robert if you let us move on the second thing on the agenda will address this very topic okay right and i believe robert will be voting at Bethel so um you know unless he's accompanying a candidate um we we will be conforming to our our rules and laws which we are going to be discussing next Robert you're you're a voter in Bethel is that correct uh i'm a voter in the Rutland Windsor county of Vermont i live in Bethel but unfortunately what's happened in Rochester during 18 was not proper so patty you're holding me geographically in a voting way my voting rights are in Rochester or in Bethel Vermont you're right but guess what Rochester is part of the Rutland Windsor voting district and that's what i've been standing up for right it's just a public forum so i just wanted to make it public that you are a Bethel voter just for the record that's all well i'd be more than happy to for you to share my address here at Hooper Hollow okay so um can we move on and then we can get to the agenda item that actually addresses this issue there will be limited parking there this year because school is in session and we're going to have to deal with something different around the parking lot and there's going to be some different requirements made for that so we're going to have to address that through signage at the office down at the high school so that's going to be one thing that's going to change a little bit it's not going to be an open parking lot we're going to have to respect that we're at the schoolyard so that's something that each and every one of us has to be aware of that's all well frank i'm great i'm glad i'm happy that you brought that up because the the current scan document that doom sent to me is an obsolete document that we Robert the next item on the agenda is the addressing of that issue so can we move on please we're going to address that tonight Robert yeah as i emailed you i communicated that in the email to you um previously so it's it's um you're we're going in circles now so the the next item on the agenda before that issue is the approval for christin lapel to be added to the town accounts and her um position as the the treasurer and and sec not secretary but i would move to approve adding christin lapel to the town accounts so she can continue to conduct that business i can second that yeah on favor hi okay Robert how can i ask one quick question before that her actual christin's actual title i thought was assistant town clerk and treasurer am i wrong about that yeah i'm sorry i i muddled that yeah okay so she's assistant town clerk and treasurer yeah okay thank you very much excuse me for interrupting so now we've come to the amendment to the policy for polling place parking lot and campaign sign rules to accommodate voting voting at the high school and i will um if you want i will um read those if i can shorten this window here because i didn't get them to print properly okay um hello i cannot minimize that let's see and let's see somebody wants to get in while i'm at now it will not let me minimize that does someone got that printed out that they could read i have it who's got that i think it was nancy woolly nancy would you be willing to share that with us because i my computer won't let me get to that screen does julie have it you gotta turn your volume volume up nancy i'm gonna get it does julie have it yes i do all right would you mind reading that with us julie sure um okay so the presiding officer in rochester it's the town clerk has jurisdiction over whether vehicles can be parked in the town office parking lot and where political signs can be placed on election day 17 vsa 2508 for the november 3rd 2020 general election because of covet 19 regulations the polling place will be moved to the rochester high school building the presiding officer rochester town clerk has jurisdiction over where vehicles can be parked in the rochester school parking lot and where political signs can be placed on election day 17 vsa 2508 social distancing will apply the presiding officer will not allow signs to be placed in the ground or affixed to anything on the property of the polling place individuals are allowed to stand and hold a sign in a designated area near the entrance to the marked polling place at the rochester high school building so long as a voter is not hindered or impeded from going into or out of the polling place in future elections the same policy will apply at the entrance to the town office parking lot abutting the school street exiting polls or surveys can be done outside of the polling place as long as a voter voluntarily offers to participate and the person conducting the polls or surveys does not hinder or impede the progress of the voter as he or she enters or leaves the polling place again 17 vsa 2508 when voting is done at the rochester town clerk's building public parking in the town office parking lot on election day is not allowed so as to provide parking spaces for voters individuals and businesses who regularly use the parking lot must find parking parking in another area of town so one exception to this parking policy is for those persons employed in the town office and poll workers who will be required to park at the entrance of the parking lot okay so can i bring something in here entered the the the publishing company in rochester remont has access to the parking lot at the town clerk's office so right so how was that did you not hear the last paragraph of what she just read that addressed that specifically that on the on the election day they will need to um and park elsewhere and free up that parking lot so to so voters can move in and out so you're telling me that the parking lot is not the polling station is not the town clerk's office it's the high school this year this year yes yes this year is at the high school and that's why we amended the policy that was approved in 2019 to clarify any questions about this and we modified it to deal with the situation that we're experiencing here where the polling will happen at high school we've also held two elections there doing that's true already and have worked out pretty well yeah the primary worked fine i helped with that so i would there is a there is maybe something we could throw in there we may we may want to add that mass star required when entering the building yeah i think that's appropriate that we have in that ordinance so people know that that would go in the first part i think yeah that i would agree just so people are aware of it well i would ask two elections we had julie had maybe a couple people that that one refused and another was not noticed until it was too late so but i think everybody was pretty good about doing that so we've had good luck so far with that so the the high school parking lot is kind of a tough place for a candidate to arrive on election day what i'm suggesting to the town of rochester is to seclude an area where candidates can be presented properly legally and according to the the laws of vermont and the town of rochester before election day so they don't arrive and then all of a sudden get reprimanded for being in a place where they shouldn't be now you're going to establish an area for them robert outside along the entry way to the high school that'll be approximately 12 feet from the the uh paved part of the entrance and we're going to flag it off and we'll have a sign there for campaign personnel well frank what day will that happen will that's going to happen the day before i'll i'll do it i've done it the last two and i'll put put all that stuff out um it'll just be flag and tape and we'll have some cones and and uh it'll be pretty well spelled out i think that's great i think it's great that you took the responsibility to do that because candidates have to move from every town all day and they don't want to step on to a village and then be reprimanded for being illegally standing there yep that's why we put together this amendment to the um the campaign sign rules to to make sure that this is all very clear well thank god all right so i would move to approve that um policy with the addition of the text about the mask i i have a comment yeah bruce um you can't make mask a hundred percent mandatory because there are some people who are unable to wear a mask so there's got to be room for an exception in there i think i think julie has uh in the past that anybody who doesn't have a mask or won't wear a mask that they can take we can give them their ballot and they can vote out outside yeah as long as it's not a hundred percent mandatory right i i think julie doesn't had done a fairly decent job policing what she needs to do there and she'll have control of that on that day all right thank you well bruce i want to thank you for bringing that out because i've been suffering through a major neck and an ear issue i cannot wear a mask at max and i apologize i wish i could but i cannot so there are a lot of people out there that whether they're elders or whether they're you know dealing with serious situations i cannot wear a mask so i don't know how we're going to deal with that part of it but you know maybe you could just bring the ballots out to the parking lot and if they don't have a mask you just deliver the ballot to the car and they they vote i think that the um as it turned out the handful of how many people julie did you find that was uh issue with that i don't know i had one uh actually two yes two people so um i think that we're able to to work around that you know so back to my um um my um proposal to approve that amended policy with the um with the takes of with the addition of the um the um how well how do you want to change the wearing that masks are required but will be accommodated if not um physically possible well one of doing i'll throw this out to you because of my situation i apologize to people for not wearing a mask but i wish that if we have to wear a mask or supposedly wear a mask i would i would like to have a little badge that says i'm exempted because i cannot wear a mask i'm seriously yeah i mean try does um a face shield that would be a way of going going forward with it but um well it's um but in so if in this case if you were a resident of rochester and voting in rochester um it would be you'd communicate to julie that julie i can't wear a mask and and she would give you the ballot to vote outside and then give it back to her so then it would you know we would you know we would deal with that yeah i think that would be that would be proper yeah but what would what bruce said is very important for the elderly elderly people there are people that are on oxygen they can't you know they want to vote that um to a large extent some of these people that have real um compromised situations they would um more and likely um vote absently and and mail in their ballot and not not feel the need to to physically come and expose themselves to uncomfortable situation or an unhealthy situation if they're really compromised yeah well sadly there's a um there's a group of the american people and populace that um prefer to vote in person and not by mail yep yep so um back to the um um and i moved to to approve that that policy with the modified text regarding mask pat are you talking i think i saw your mouth move i second that all right all in favor bye say thank you but um hardware can make can provide a couple of those face shields so that julie has them if she needs them i have some time so um frank you did a little bit of um work around the removal of of sediment on the um downstream from the route 100 bridge in the north end of town well i went down and had a look at it and um i'm going to uh tomorrow i have to meet with mike le point down at the mendel property to finalize that and um i'm going to see if maybe he would come by and take a picture of what um is the issue there and send it to jared um and go from there so the dean mendel project is uh the final uh inspection is tomorrow at 230 and so i'll meet with mike down there i think jone isn't going to participate but i think anything i think we've done everything that we needed to on that project is that correct jone as far as our paperwork just one last thing to put in a request for reimbursement to the town which i i'm working out with with mike well can i add something here frank and jone jone thank you for all the things you've been doing the demon del project needs a uh i'm thinking at least a 12 12 foot wide covert to go under that road more than 12 feet jone you're right something about it's it's about it's at least 10 feet wide isn't it frank the color it's pretty wide but it's not wide enough um for what in the because of iran it's changed so much in the storms every now and then it's this was just a band-aid and it's going to have it'll happen again there's just you know they they don't allow you to do all that much there and uh so we're just we're just doing the best we can with it and this is a pass-through for us anyway it's a the culvert is is uh the state of remont's responsibility you know since it's um under root 100 and from what i've been told you know they acknowledge that what's really needed at that spot is a bridge but it's not a priority for them right now so until that gets fixed the way it needs to be um as frank said it's this is just a temporary fix for uh the mandels which we hope will last for a while can i add something uh jone i've been up without water for three weeks i have no water at the top of the mountain nothing and i know what's going to happen um dean his pond is probably dry as uh dust and um actually it's fault it's not got a cup of water in it deamondell has water in his pond not very much but he does have water well and he gets a little bit of stream there and there's a spring up beyond his house that's that's running endlessly that frank twitual has rights to that well retained rights to well i hope it all works out but that culvert under uh that root 100 a piece of road like jones said or frank you said it's not 12 it's got to be 14 you know it's a it's a gigantic hydraulic flow of water and i met with the uh town of bethle today up here on hooper hollow and uh we went through all the hydraulics and the out of qui chi grants and all the stuff i could write a book about what i experienced today and you know the town of bethle is very gracious but they're concerned about what the hell is going on up here because the out of qui chi um uh grants they don't listen to the people that live on the roads that they're actually giving money to through the towns seriously it's a big it's a it's a really good discussion because it's like they want to make certain that hydraulic connection is synchronized with uh water flow so um any um joan do you have any updates with them that would relate to that or anything else that you've been working on uh everything else is stuff you've heard about before i'm doing you know still working on reimbursements from the same place we've been talking about for over a year uh i'm doing what's needed from my end to gather information for the single audit um and just generally keeping track of other things um so nothing really to report um a couple other things i'd mentioned doing i uh went with jeff and we toured the the town office there and i happened to notice that the chimney is about ready to fall off the roof so i i've talked to dav kurtis to maybe get up see if he could do it and uh i've got to meet with him again but i'll be doing that right off i also had the furnace clean in the building because it hadn't been done in five years and i'm going to disconnect the heat to the old garage so maybe we can save a little money there um but that's about it on that and nancy and i worked in the basement today so i'm sorting things out that's quite a job and we're going to talk to the sheriff to see if there's anything there that he needs and wants and yeah there's a couple things that'll go into the town stuff but most of it is going to the dump as i can figure and nancy figures all righty yep doon doon may i uh yeah robert communicate this with uh everyone that's uh on the online there's a positive word that you always say and it's onward doon are you listening i am i'm making onward yeah so let's just let's just try to do whatever we can to move onward yep it's a very inspiring word but it seems like it's uh it's a way to um keep moving forward and um you know not getting stuck so right so whether it's whether it's demon del's problem or my problem up here or whatever your your word onward is incredibly encouraging that's what i was hoping we need to move onward yeah onward yes the um is there so speaking of that word onward is there anything else that anyone wanted to address tonight there it looks like we've covered um what's on the agenda and well um is there anything we need to do an executive session about the employee employment situation i have a small um small bit to report but not not much but we could return to executive session for discussed employee situation so doon um if you're going to if you're going to adjourn the regular meeting and go into an executive session would you be it says need something i need to stick around for would you be doing no no there's nothing that we'd be taking any action on this on the just you know information gathering stage yeah thank you yeah um it's robert again from bethle not rochester yeah i do want to thank uh patty and nancy and frank and martha and jeff and do to move move onward yep all right thank you thanks robert jeff let's be around town everybody all right hey maybe jeff has something jeff do you have something you want to say um somewhat overwhelmed um with uh you know what our needs are in the valley i'm sure i'll you know we'll find more of it as we look yeah um yeah thanks robert said onward onward right yeah onward and upward so are we are we adjourned or i think we're adjourning yes okay thank you thank you oh god bless america thanks everybody all right good night robert good night good night all


Welcome back to human-humane architecture on another beautiful early evening on a Tuesday here in downtown Honolulu On 4th Street Mall, which is the financial district where today the trades are up And for the ones in the audience you're not from here They might think that has to do something with stock market, but it actually has to do with climate and The perfect guess to talk about that is mr. Breezy easy how it wig welcome Howard to the show. Thank you. Thank you and Beautiful to be here and many know hard when he's sitting here And if you don't know Howard in that capacity, please go to think take Hawaii and look up cold green Which is your show and it's one of the longest standing shows here for a good reason because it's awesome and so we want to talk a little bit about sort of the the the sort of the The boundary between our disciplines, I would say and I'm really excited about and you will start off to talk about Some statistics and graphs that you got excited about Zürich is going to actually show something in the background That is something I created together with my family business My father Grinter and my sister Cynthia back in Germany that I was bouncing off you while I was back in Germany And we're kind of starting to be getting a little bit of philosophical about the aspect of biochlamatic design Mm-hmm, and it's sort of global and intercultural international potential But why don't we start off to jump right in because we have to face a sort of relatively new 30-minute pretty tight Yeah slot But I in the announcement of the show everyone knows you as bringing in these exciting guests You know that's that you make talk about actually economy and ecology I would say and how they could both sort of support each other But you're just such a humble person that you're hardly ever you know talk about yourself So we want to do this a little bit as well here and I want to share with the audience Sort of maybe there are many memorable moments Too many to tell here But one most memorable is that you always over there in a governmental building and amongst the people the policy makers especially the the building code council members and We have adopted something here a while ago. That's the IBC the international building code and You believe that that is not sufficient enough here for the island. So you're working really really hard To Make an amendment I would say to that or make amendments to that and one of these sort of key moments for me was that Some of the decision-makers basically said well, you know, just so maybe you guys are a little bit more quiet or you guy I'm a little bit more quiet I might change the code that egress emergency staircases don't have to be enclosed anymore Because in New York City They might want to be if there's a fire in the building you want to get out of the building and you slip on an overized Metal grating and break your neck. It's not a good idea. And that's why the IBC says let's enclose it And you said we don't have that problem here We don't have eyes and why don't we open up staircases?  Breezy easy So thank you again for being here and maybe Zuri you can make give the first a graph the first chart and you explain us what these are and With that who you are when you're not sitting here. So who's the other Howard? Who's the other Howard? somebody who's been with the state energy office for Longer than most viewers have been on the planet. I started. I won't even say the year That's too too shocking, but I started when the state energy office Offices nationwide started and I've been there ever since how did I last so long because it's fun?  You travel actually quite a bit right for I just just made the the United Airlines million mile club Mm-hmm, and it's not it's also pleasure, but not primarily leisure So what what are the reasons why you're traveling so much? I go to the national code hearings We have you know just in general when you're building a building you have the plumbing code electrical code and You have the energy code and that ensures that the buildings or homes will be built in the most energy efficient manner and These codes are updated every three years, and I participate at the national level in the IECC the international energy conservation code and We have all of these propositions. We're going to change the code a b c d e And it goes on like over 500 different propositions And we meet in a mainland city and we sit there from Eight in the morning sometimes till 10 11 at night Debating debating debating And there's all these industry people there the insulation guys the window guys the lighting guys the piping guys And they want the code to kind of Kind of benefit them a little bit And then there's us government types who are just pushing for maximum energy efficiency In a cost-effective manner. So it's a really interesting dynamic But over the years I've become Friends with the people who used to be the bad guys at our view the na hb national home builders association And I've come to think like them Any proposition that I look at I'm asking is this cost effective? Will it add anything to the cost of building? And if so Is that minuscule cost totally worth it in the form of savings? So That's a lot of the traveling that I do is participating in those things Very exciting two three four hundred people in the auditorium So we're here in Hawaii beautiful Hawaii where when I came here I did some research too I better did and I I got really excited about you know learning which I sort of knew but then really not really Consciously reflected on but I heard this is the place that has the most You know resources as far as renewable energies We got the breeze. We already talked about we got the sun We got the ocean We got many others and so So here we are but then you go back on the mainland and you just told me before the show that the most Innovative or cutting-edge, you know states and that one of them is messachusetts, which is kind of interesting, right? He wouldn't necessarily associate messachusetts with that maybe not quite so surprising as california is the west coast in general And also the pacific northwest right in particular And I think the the first couple of charts are about that and especially the fifth one the slide number five Is the one you're most excited about maybe we want to bring that up Yeah, yeah, if we could just go how about uh, sorry, we we start with slide one and I'll go through quickly to that and then get to this one So this slide graph is produced by hawaiian electric When nexera looked like it was a real possibility And on the left is the current year and on the right is 2045 when we're supposed to hit zero or 100 clean energy And that big green or blue splotch in the middle was natural gas Well, that was before nex energy Or when it was still in the game now that's off And so hawaiian electric is going to have to drastically Revise this chart So I've revised it myself according to efficiency if we go to the next slide This is the energy code impact and appliance efficiency impact as I see it We're going to go down down down in energy use and as soon as 2024 we could Reduce our energy use just by efficiencies that far and then we go to the next slide And 2030 even more and finally we go to the final slide We have come very close to attaining 100 clean energy just by efficiency measures now Why do I make that outrageous statement and by efficiency? I mean just reducing energy use in building schools hospitals and homes And I can't go into the details right now But in my humble view it can be done And then to reinforce that finally we go to the next slide This is from the pacific northwest They're doing a similar type of slide Except that the efficiency measures go up That big green splotch they're starting with the 2015 going to 2035 Achieving the all the savings towards 100 clean energy that green Is all energy efficiency and then looked at all the bar graphs on the right This is Hawaii specific And that little purple thing on the far right that is the cost of a kilowatt hour With efficiency 2.2 cents all the other renewables all the oils and everything are much much much much much higher So they are taking my dream and taking it So if there was ever a true believer in energy efficiency, it's me and that's my mission Thank you very much and I'm going to explain what the audience sees in the back So which Zurel is so perfectly arranged is that it looks like we are sitting in there But actually we're not we're sitting in the studio But this is the project that I did with my with my ohana practice And it's a school and that's actually how we got to know each other That we got to know each other briefly before but then I was reading in the papers here many years ago I think about three years ago that they're thinking about air conditioning schools here And it was the odd rage because I had started to work in that field in germany which Has the highest energy efficiency Standards in the world are one of the highest and the building Sort of rating system is called passive house and passive house says 15 kilowatt hours per square meter per year Period and that that would translate into About 1.5 kilowatt hours per square foot gets very close to your number which is like Zero exactly. Yeah, and that we're talking in a cold temperate climate where it also gets hot over the summer We're hitting 40 degrees at times. It doesn't last long 40 translating into almost over 90. Exactly. Exactly. Thank you Exactly. So that's uh, there's still the the european metric guy in celsius versus fahrenheit. You caught me on that one So that's what the audience will see and we're not going to talk about individual pictures I'm not going to explain the project But i'm i'm going to explain that that here on the island we have the phenomenon to have a temperature That's the closest to thermal comfort that we can get anywhere in the world There there are other tropics. So, you know, there's 40 percent of the tropics Which we're part of and 60 percent the majority in the world at temperate climates Where it's way more complicated to to get off the grid or to reach that goal So the mainland people have it a lot harder than we have it here to be good because they have both summer and winter You have to cope with both of them. Yeah, exactly So here, um, you know, when I when I came they put me up in a hotel Actually the alamuana hotel and I came and it was all Closed and there was this thermostat and it was set to now i'm doing fahrenheit 73 Which is close. Very good. Very good. Yep. And I was thinking this is feels like what it had outside With a natural air conditioning and I turned it off and i'm sliding the doors open Which I was lucky that hotel still allowed the door. Yeah And and it basically was that and that sold me to come here and say that's for my personal comfort But it's also for my professional comfort that I want this place to be To be really sort of the leader Thinking, you know in the united states that there's one beacon that shows it Faster it's almost a little like cheating because it's easier here, right then on the mainland on the mainland You need triple paying glass You know you need a foot of insulation or more that we get to insulation Which you might say we need insulation here too, but we might not actually might not need that much It's a different type too. Mm-hmm And let me throw in that when you're bringing that natural air in at the alamuana hotel It is much better air generally than you're getting from air conditioning. There's this concept called iaq indoor air quality And generally speaking indoor air quality, especially in hawaii where the cleanest air in the world Is not as good as the outdoor air you you get all these interior pollutants So you're improving your health in addition to minimizing energy use Definitely I think this is a good point to take a little one minute break and barely warmed up That's the nature of it as you know, I see how it feels from the other side, right? Probably even worse So take that a little break and then be back with Howard wig mr. Breezy easy Aloha, I'm richard emory. I'm with co-host Jane Sugimura of condo insider hawaii's weekly show about association living The purpose of these videos is to educate board members and condo residents about issues Relating to association living We hope they're helpful and that they assist in resolving problems that affect the relationship between boards and their residents Each week thursday at 3 p.m. We bring you exciting guests industry experts who for free will share their advice About how to make your association a better place to live and answer a lot of very interesting questions Aloha, we hope you'll tune in Welcome back to humane human architecture today with Howard wig mr. Breezy easy and We just stopped before the break where you actually what I Probably like Amongst the many things the most about you there you're a holistic thinker You're not just thinking about the signs You're thinking about the arts as well and the arts include the human aspects We were talking about the thermal comfort not just in a way How much do I have to make it so I don't I don't sweat but you also pointed I need to I need to inhale I need oxygen right so this is an important part This is actually a tricky part on in the temperate climates because the passive house I think has to take the position to say once a person opens the window I waste energy out of the window because they do it at the wrong time in the winter when it's cold You open your window you get fresh air, but you waste your your heat That's why a machine is doing that or has to do that And that's a big controversy And actually Europeans used to basically heat with with water With radiant heat water radiant heat and because of that system next you switch to the american system of forest air or moved air And it's not ac. I call it ad it's air it's air distribution So you have an air handling unit that flushes the air in the building through the building with a very low velocity And then you have a heat exchanger If you run the heat over or the cold in the In the summertime and it basically re-injects it back to the fresh incoming air But there isn't there isn't increasing sort of opposition from the general public That says we don't want hermatic homes, you know, we don't want a machine to control our life And once again here in Hawaii We don't we don't have that necessity. That's why it's paradise. It could be paradise Which which it isn't yet, but that's your that's your mission both in your daily job and also Very often on your show If you're fighting for reconnecting to the natural systems But also embracing modern technology So you're not saying we're going back to the to the beach and and to the grass shack Because that's an illusion. We can't do that. So we need to embrace modern modern technologies So maybe talk a little bit about these means and methods and technologies that we can apply In buildings today. Well first and foremost my basic design I call rushing headlong into the 1950s Because that that's when I was a kid here and air conditioning In homes was absolutely unheard of and we had big windows And we opened up doors so the air would flow through the entire house And long overhangs and we had lanais And that's where we hung out. We didn't Enclose the house at all everything was open open open And then because of the wonders of modern technology Now virtually all new home not almost new home construction is centrally air conditioned and What I do with the energy code is encourage Couraging us to go back to the passive design But with new technology the homes that I grew up in and my friends grew up in Were single wall which was okay Except that the heat came pouring through when the radiant sun was pouring against it And the windows if we Close them Almost all the sun's heat came through there And did it with a roof the sun's heat would come pouring through Now we have reflective technology and I built that into the energy code Reflective roofs and they don't have to be white. They can be other colors Where they reflect back the huge majority of the radiant heat striking that roof So that you're naturally cool Did it with the walls or the only state in the union with cool walls And the windows you can have almost perfect Visibility through the windows, but there was called high performance windows and you reject easily 70 percent Of the heat that wants to come through there So that's the type of thing we do and and overhangs overhangs overhangs If possible, I would like to see one whole wall Of a residence be one great big lanai Just with a concrete slab electrical outlets and you just have all your parties your evenings Everything you just hang out on that great big lanai And the kids can go running around on the grass the dogs can go running around too It's just great hawaiian living that that's the way I have constructed the tropical energy code for for residences That's awesome. Yeah, thank you for that. It helps us those practitioners the students Because if the law isn't with us the code isn't with us it just stays a dream But if you know the the rules and the the regulations are basically going to be with us are going to be on our side so So you look at at nature a very nice shirt on as always, you know It's obviously shows us nature as an example But you're not looking at it as we see it in many ways where there's invasive systems introduced that works with artificial systems And then there's sort of a local ornament lick and stick on right? So you're not looking at it in a sort of facial way You're looking at it in a substantial way and it kind of reminds me of almost reconnecting to To the ancestors who knew how to do it and it always puzzled me actually for quite some time that There were different kind of hollies. So the other indigenous ways of living There were some they were all opened On the on the ground floor and easy breezy But there are some who were all enclosed and it puzzled me for a while until I started to understand How that must have been feeling in there as far as thermal comfort and straw as an insulator has an r value So it's actually insulating. So this is sort of the original source, right the ancestral source for which you're trying to Propagate right now and also because straws are hollow and if you pack them there's voids in between So they've always been breezy as well, right? In this case, we don't have straw But we have a lot of other materials with that same air content to serve as insulators And I didn't mention we do have one mechanical system in these tropical homes namely ceiling fans ceiling fan technology just like all other technologies is improved Vastly for less electricity. You can get more circulated air down there. And of course you have control slow medium high We have a hot corner weather day. Boom. You just turn the ceiling fan on high and you're comfortable as anything Yeah, and although we're not at all supposed to Make advertisements for any kind of brand But there is one brand recently that has sort of innovated the Tradition of you want to say their name? Otherwise I do it I'm a host also. It's okay. Yeah, but there are fans if guys go to Costco. They see them the big ones They look like big-ass fans, you know And the convention center actually the lobby which is hermetic was converted to actually work mainly with with fans So that works and the the other companies will say hey, that's an improved blade technology, but we'll do that So maybe you're running through some of the sort of 101 and biochlamatic design And using you know what the audience saw when Zuri is sort of seating in the images This building basically the orientation let's start with orientation orientation is really key. Absolutely. Why is that Howard? Because generally our trade winds come from the northeast You want the broad stick to homes because they're simpler. You want the broad long side of the homes Facing the northeast so the wind comes right there. You allow it in You have exhaust through the southwest part of the home So that just makes its way through there Plus the sun rises and east sets in the west you want to minimize those exposures So you don't get that direct radiant Heat especially the afternoon Heat from there. So you're sheltering by orienting like that. You're sheltering yourself from the western sun And that I think this picture is perfect because actually this is facing east This is facing the campus and people might say well I don't want to have a closed wall towards The east because there might be a nice view and this is a solution here We made these concrete slabs and these concrete slabs are geometric to the way that The sun when it gets past 10 11 a.m. Which is where the sun gets problematic these fins basically shade The indoor space. So we call this architecture an exoskeleton So use the structure as a shading vise for the for the building So these are elements, you know, there's there's a lot of repertoire, you know Within these sort of rules and regulation that we say you better follow Because these are the biochlamatic, you know Rules you you have to follow but within these there's a lot of wiggle room. There's a lot of interpretation Sure. Yeah, there's a lot of diversity So not every home you're talking about that is ideal has to look the same. Yeah, all right. Oh, heaven's yes. Yeah So so that's that's a big advantage So, um, we're getting close to the end of the show again I just my you made me aware of that actually the building, you know, I was revisiting We call this post occupancy evaluation or evidence-based design assessing you made me aware That the things we've been doing there because the climate in Germany besides it being tempered It's very similar to here as far as the sun You know angles and the sun orientation So you could just replace the fixed glazing here with with jealousies and you would have so there's something universal About biochlamatic design and there's obviously things. They're very specific to to our very special place here in hawaii And again, um, it was a pleasure to have you here Howard You're calling this an end. Come on. We're just gonna have to but I will just redirect the audience to your show See this as promotion because I'm a big fan of your show I watch it all the time and I'm a big fan of you personally with Had the chance to became good friends And you're very encouraging for my personal work as a biochlamatic architect and for the students You've been coming in many times as a as a juror as a reviewer So I just want to thank you for doing this for us and For the island because this is going the right direction This way through you. The island has a chance to stay paradise. Thank you for that Howard Well, I'll close with a famous quote from somebody much smarter than me Work is much funner than fun And that that's what I have with this type of work often often closing words. So thank you very much


It's time for the Lawn Jean Chronoscope, a television journal of the important issues of the hour brought to you every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. A presentation of the Lawn Jean Wittner Watch Company, maker of Lawn Jean, the world's most honored watch, and Wittner, distinguished companion to the world-honored Lawn Jean. Good evening. This is Frank Knight. May I introduce our co-editors for this edition of the Lawn Jean Chronoscope? Larry LeCerre from the CBS television news staff, and Lewis Banks, associate editor of Time Magazine. Our distinguished guest for this evening is the honorable John C. Stennis, senator from Mississippi. I think it's only fair to say that during the past year, the United States Senate itself has been under considerable pressure. It's labored in an atmosphere which has brought connotations of irresponsibility, exhibitionism, and even lowered standards. Now, it speaks for the esteem in which our guest tonight is held by his fellow senators, that he was chosen by the Senate to appear and to re-represent them on the Watkins Committee. Senator Stennis, does this Watkins Committee report, uh, touch on the subject of how much power a congressional committee should have? Yes, it does. That's one of the main points involved in the report. But before I say anything about the report, let me emphasize that I make no comment here about the allegations so far as they pertain to Senator McCarthy, uh, his innocence or his guilt. I'm just discussing the legal principles involved, and you've mentioned one of the main ones. You know, we have the age-old conflict between the executive branch of the government, the presidency, which has certain power to withhold information and keep secret high matters on our security front. And then the legislative branch, which is the Congress, having the right to make investigations, primarily for two purposes. One, to determine what basis to pass the laws on, what are the facts with reference to needed legislation, and then to see also if the laws we already have are being properly carried out or executed, while the money is being properly spent. So that line of division between the executive and the legislative has never been clearly defined. The conflict has gone on from George Washington's time down until today. Senator, does the Watkins Committee report actually crystallize these areas, this ill-defined area between the legislative and the executive's power? No, it makes no crystal clear mark, a line between the two. It points out the problem. It recognizes there is a field of investigation. There's a field where the executive has the right to hold back certain information, the security of the nation being involved. But it does point out this, that with the increased budget, with the enormous expenditures that we have, the budget having increased from $3 billion annually to $60 billion annually, with our far-flung military installations all over the world, and particularly in view of our worldwide fight against communism, international conspiracies, that there's more need for investigations at the same time, there's more need for security information being kept secret in the circumstances. Well, Senator, what rules changes does the Senate need in order to bring its mechanism up to date? We did not recommend any legislation on this very important and vexing subject, but we did recommend this, that the heads of the senator committees and also the ranking member of the part out of power meet with the executive heads of the departments of Guff. And see if there could not be a plan worked out, not necessarily by rule of law, but by the spirit of cooperation, where the integrity of the president's power would be preserved, the integrity of the legislative power and responsibilities would be preserved, and all of it worked out for the protection and benefit of the people as a whole. And a great deal is already being done along that line, I can assure you and the people, but more needs to be done, and we may have to have new legislation, because the statutes that control this proposition as to how far the executive can go and how much the, how far the legislature can go and how much the executive can withhold is not clearly defined. Senator Stennis, as you realize, it's all very well to come to an agreement on just what a committee should do, but the chairman of a Senate committee has vast powers. Is there any way to enforce any rule changes? Well, we've had, yes, you can enforce rules on that. We have had rather vague and loose rules on the matter. I say this investigator power has not been as extended and as important as it has become in the last few years. Now, the rules are not definite on that. It's left, has been left in part to the standards that the committee itself might set, or which the chairman might set. Now, we feel that the Senate must reexamine this, must reappraise it, and we definitely recommend it here. A start on some additional rules. One is that no witness should be compelled to testify unless there are at least two members of the Senate present, unless he waives that right, unless the whole committee votes to authorize the chairman to proceed. Another thing that a witness can be interrogated only by a member of the Senate or its staff member chosen by the committee, not just the chairman, but by the committee for that purpose. And another thing we recommend is that no committee chairman be permitted to disclose what all went on in the executive session, executive hearing, unless the committee votes that it be disclosed. Now, we put another provision on there, a recommendation that no payments could be made for the expenses of this committee until it had complied. With these rules, that is, the chairman certified. Senator Sanders, did you touch upon the so-called rights of government employees to pass on classified material to members of Congress? Well, that's in the report and what we said on that speaks for itself. That goes right back to the first point I'm mentioning here about the line being somewhat vague and uncertain in places. The executive branch of the government undoubtedly has the power to withhold certain information and to put executive orders that will keep those files, protect those files. Senator, I suspect that one key question that should be answered is whether you think the Senate is going to back up the Watkins committee censure. Well, I don't want to pass on that in any way. That's each individual senator must make up his own mind. It presents a question that he has to apply his own standards of thinking and his own concept of senatoral conduct and the proper exercise of senatoral power. I have already reached my conclusions, but that's a matter that each senator must decide for himself. It does involve the Senate. I think the senatoral question is involved, but each individual senator has to make up his own. Well, Senator Sanders, I know you have compelling reasons for not wanting to predict what the Senate will do on the Watkins committee report on Senator McCarthy. I wonder if I could put the question this way. Could you tell us what material effect it would have on a senator if the Senate passed a vote of censure against him? Well, that's entirely conjectural. I wouldn't want to go into that. It depends upon so many factors. The case has not been concluded and haven't reached that part of it, and I would respectfully withhold or comment on it. Senator, in a political year, wouldn't it have been easier for your committee to duck a decision on this and just you weren't absolutely ordered to bring in a decision? Well, we weren't ordered to make recommendation specific, but you say a political year. Now, we were appointed in a non-political atmosphere. The resolution said three Democrats and three Republicans, and that's the last time those words were used or heard. We had no suggestions whatsoever from any outside source or among ourselves about the political implications or the line of political parties with reference to this decision. We were entirely free of that. So after the evidence was heard and considered, why, they had instructed us to hear the testimony and to report. And we, the report speaks for itself as to what we decided. We thought we were following a line of duty, reference to that. Senator Senus, of course, you're a member of the Armed Services Committee beside this special, the Watkins Committee. I'd like to ask you something about a new factor that's arisen now. How do you people on the, or you yourself feel on the Senate Armed Services Committee about the re-arming of West Germany? Well, I feel and I think most members of the feel that it's necessary to re-arm Germany in order to protect the situation in Europe. I thought then that EDC would not be ratified by France and that came to a head this last September and France turned the EDC down. I felt like that we should have another proposal and alternative and that has materialized and apparently it is going to prevail. Which will lead to a re-arming of Germany, which is a necessary step, I think, to preserve, protect Europe. Incidentally, I think that we are gaining in the Cold War. That's what I wanted to ask you. You're a man of much wisdom and moderation in the Senate. How do you feel, actually, we're doing in this Cold War now? Are we winning or are we losing? I feel that we are gaining in Europe. Yes, I think definitely so. We make fairly steady progress and another step is about to be taken this re-arming of Germany. To be frank, I think we are losing in Asia. I don't try to put that blame on anyone. I think it's largely the course of events. I don't say we've lost everything, but I think the trend there has been against us. It's a long, long ways off. There's much territory involved. There are many, many countries. There are many, many, many people. Well, Senator, do you think we could actually do anything to stem the tide of communism over there? Well, I feel that communism, of a kind, is on the ascendancy in Asia. It's moving along slowly. I hope it's not altogether the Russian communism. I hope it's a different type. I believe it is, too. But that trend is on the move. And I think we must help retort it, but it's got to be worked out by the Asiatic people. Well, thank you very much, Senator Stennis. It's very kind of you to come up and watch and talk to us tonight. The opinions expressed on the laundry and chronoscope were those of the speakers. The editorial board for this edition of the laundry and chronoscope was Larry Leserre and Louis Banks. Our distinguished guest was the Honorable John C. Stennis, Senator from Mississippi. An important contribution which laundry and watchmakers have made to the science of timing was to originate the idea that sports events should be timed with identical watches of known and proven accuracy. Now, to implement this idea, Laun Jean created a series of new watches, accurate second by second, which timed to a fifth, a tenth, and a hundredth of a second. 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Hi! Mario here. First I want to thank my patrons for supporting my work. Welcome to Saxe women located in Peru. We have seen many suggestions and hypotheses as to how the fascinating stone blocks of Saxe women were created. I think that in many of these ideas there is some truth. The stones are probably not cut but molded with an unknown technique. Almost instantly counter arguments arise questioning the technique of molding, arguing that nothing but primitive tools have been found so far. If the stones had been molten and then molded, a massive amount of energy and all sorts of installations would have been needed to get the work done. Where is it? The most probable truth appears to be as simple as it is elegant. The city, the construction, the structures and the builders are originally hundreds or thousands of years old. Only stone survives long enough to be the only thing left when found at the site. Everything else like steel, bronze, platinum, diamond, plastics, glass is all corroded and has decomposed in that time frame. That is why nothing is found and that is why mainstream archaeology composes the weirdest ideas as to how massive ancient structures must have been made. They believe that beautiful, incredibly hard granite artefacts can be made with bronze or steel tools, forgetting that granite cannot even be scratched with steel. They like to call themselves scientists but are not worthy to have the title when they suggest irrational ideas. Only diamond is hard enough to cut through granite. So we surmise that the ancients used diamond studded equipment to cut through hard rock. Why aren't these tools found? Because the current dating of ancient structures is incorrect. They are much older and currently assumed and our equipment is simply lost in an ocean of time. That is why it is also believed that ancient peoples were less intelligent than we are today, while homo sapiens with the same brain size using the same magnificent hands as we today on this planet for hundreds of thousands of years. The qualities and talents of humans do not depend on their education, on their master's degree or which car they drive. It's all in our DNA. In the ancient past, there were brilliant minds as well. We could also suggest all kinds of ideas as to how the ancients might have constructed the marvelous stone walls. However, that is not our specialty. Our specialty is to analyse ancient structures via our method that consists of two layers orientation and ancient solstices. Both these properties are dimensionless and therefore transcend physical properties and that is the reason why our method is more convincing than any other materially oriented methods. Most material theories can be overthrown by other material theories, and this can go on for centuries, never delivering real results. On the other hand, dimensionless theories reside at the very core of existence and deliver results that stand the test of time. They uncover timeframes in which vast civilizations have thrived. This helps us understand why our ancient history is so confusing and so difficult to understand. It is mainly because dimensionless theories reveal the immensely long timeframes when these civilizations have thrived. We have published a paper called On the Orientation of Latin American Pyramids and Temples. You can find it online on our website. I've put a link down below. We have discovered that 95.1% of all ancient structures in the western hemisphere from the US down to Argentina are clockwise oriented. Only a handful is counterclockwise or cardinally oriented. The probability that this pattern is the result of a coincidental process is 0%. The same reasoning applies to the core of Sacsay Wayman. It is also clockwise oriented. It also contains some sort of a sundial, similar to the one we have seen at Chaco Canyon. No one knows what it was used for, because it points to nowhere, so to speak. Yet we have discovered to which pole Sacsay Wayman was originally oriented. How the sundial was used and thus we discovered the true age of Sacsay Wayman. Because the configuration matches the ancient pole positions and the sundial in the center suddenly starts to work, we can accept the probability that we are correct in our conclusions and can claim with a very high probability the true age of the core of Sacsay Wayman. The horary age of Sacsay Wayman explains why no tools were ever found and also why unreasonable speculations keep popping up. We could focus endlessly on the complicated zigzag structure made with these baffling beautifully molded blocks, however it is obvious that these blocks are crafted with an unknown sophisticated technique. And because the site is likely to be very ancient, no tools are found, only the stone blocks are left and escaped decomposition. So we would be guessing like everyone else which technique actually did get used. More interesting is to know its age and thereby understand why no tools are found. To better grasp the age of Sacsay Wayman, we have to aim at the core of the site. I showed it here. This part of the site is uniformly 15 degrees clockwise oriented, directly towards the region of pole 5 and that could mean that the site is probably very ancient as old as pole 5. The probability that the structure in this region coincidentally matches with one of the poles 125 is only 10.8%. From this we already know with the probability of around 90% that this core area of Sacsay Wayman is between 330,000 and 345,000 years old. If we can find more clues, we could boost our claim even more significantly. Also, at the heart of Sacsay Wayman, we find this typical circular structure called the Muyomarca. It is believed that this was once a tower. The Spaniards destroyed the tower together with the peoples, the sagas and the traditions. Can we somehow reconstruct something meaningful from what is left? Yes we can. This structure contains elements of a solar wheel. What is remarkable is that the site and the solar wheel are collectively oriented to 15 degrees clockwise and that is now coincidence. This was probably an astronomical instrument. Why would one orient a solar wheel or a sort of cardinal system 15 degrees clockwise? Not unless it was for a good reason. When we examine maps made by archaeologists, we at once see a complete absence of orientational consciousness. The maps are made incorrectly. How can science reconstruct our history when they are missing crucial data? Very little is known about Muyomarca or the purpose for which it was used.  It is divided into three concentric sections as well as into 12 equal parts. You might have seen our sources reconstructions from other previous videos. We will not repeat these details here over and over again but found that the ancient sources conform quite closely to the sections I'm showing here. The data suggests that the tower was used as a calendar system. The sources angles of the regions belonging to pole 5 are close to the depicted walls. We have seen similar structures in other parts of the world like in Mexico, England, Turkey and Sardinia. Because the Muyomarca was believed to have been a tower, there were probably observation slots in the walls of the tower to monitor the exact moment of the sources. We have seen this in other places around the world. The more extremely angled walls correspond closely to the phenomenon that we call the lunar stists. Once in every 18 years or so, the moon rises and sets at very extreme angles and this is called the major lunar standstill. This is a phenomenon that is still relatively unknown today. The motions of the moon around the earth are very complex partially because of the earth's tilt and partially because the moon's orbital plane is not perpendicular to the spin axis of the earth. So a very complex dance between the two celestial bodies arises naturally. The ancients were most likely very fascinated by this obscure rising and setting of the moon and the moments for catching this weird phenomenon were very rare. We have seen similar structures for observing the major lunar standstill in Sardinia at a very mysterious site called Nuraga Santu Antine. Because we find clues in the Muyomarca that are very close to the ancient sources, we can boost our claim that this part of Sexy Wayman is as old as Paul V, reaching a probability of almost 100%. That means that this part of the site is originally and I stress the word originally between 330,000 and 345,000 years old. Now what about beautiful walls surrounding this structure? These seem to be meant as defensive walls, however no ordinary defensive walls, no defensive walls that are capable to withstand extreme catastrophic earthquakes. Typically earthquakes that appear during crustal deformation cycles that exceed the current maximum scale of 10 on the Richter scale. For a wall to withstand the extreme violence, two things are crucial. Firstly the interlocking of stone blocks which is achieved by their amazing shapes and secondly different masses of the stone blocks. When all stone blocks are of the same weight and an earthquake matches the oscillation frequency of those blocks, the whole wall collapses. When the stone blocks are of different weights and different shapes, walls might only partially collapse and that is what we see today. The walls still stand tall and some parts are only partially collapsed. How old are these walls? The average orientation of the north walls matches exactly the position of pole 2 which could mean that this wall was built during pole 2 and so is between 130,000 and 155,000 years old and this explains why no tools are found because only stone survives the eons. I hope you enjoyed this video. This might not be the last video we created on this subject of this intriguing site. Thank you for watching!


Hey guys, welcome back to Comic-Ed and TV, the only place on YouTube where all geek culture collides. I'm Shannon and today on the show, we're going to be doing a an unboxing. My wife ordered me something off from Target yesterday. I was not expecting it to get here so soon. Shipped pretty fast, so let's go ahead and get into it. So this is the Hasbro Ghostbusters Plasma Series Ecto 1. There we have the box. Let's go ahead and bring this in. All right, as you can see here, it's the Ghostbusters Ecto 1 from Hasbro's Plasma Series. It's the Ghostbusters Afterlife Ecto 1 actually. And let's take a minute to appreciate the look of this packaging. This, this looks really good. I might just keep this box actually. As you can see, there's the Ecto 1 inside their barn. It's four ages 14 and up on the side. We have some schematics on the other side. We have some Art Deco Ecto 1 on the top. We have the the Kecky Flight Suit style packaging that we're used to. Then on the back, we get a look at the Ecto 1 and inside the Ecto 1. Looks like the classic Ecto 1 got a few upgrades with new features ready to take on bigger batter ghosts. The ghouls will be running scared. And then the rest is in different languages. So let's go ahead and open this up and take a look at Ecto. Okay, so as you can see here, it comes taped down in the packaging with some tie downs as well. The roof rack is separated as long as as well as some of the other stuff. So let's go ahead and cut that out and take a look at it. First, we're going to start with the roof rack. So you can see there's the satellite dish there. One of the lights in the siren. Pretty cool. So this may be one of the last toy reviews I'm actually going to do on Comic Gettin. If I do toy reviews after this point, they're going to be few and far between. Only very special items are going to get reviewed from now on. Simply because they don't have, they don't get the same kind of views that my history and origins videos do. As you can see there, the no-ghost logo is all cracked up. Which actually looks pretty cool, I must say. And here we have the other add-ons. We've even got the remote control ghost trap in there. So that's cool. And that's it for what's in the box. Now, oops, sorry about that guys. Now we'll go ahead and put everything in place. So the roof rack, all right, so on this ecto the ladder is actually on the opposite side. As you can see it attaches here and here. Now this didn't come with any directions. So you basically got to go off of memory and what it looks like, where it looks like these are supposed to go. Does that go there? Let's take a look at the box. So you can look at the box to determine where everything goes. So let's say this one. These do have specific locations. They are different lengths and there's a different curvature to them as well. And we'll put this maybe behind the ladder. Maybe if it'll go in. So the way it has to go in, you basically have to turn it into place. So I kind of like it like that. I don't like it hanging on the outside of the ladder. Looks better like that. And here's the hoses. This clip goes into there. Okay. So as you can see, clips in there. And then there's two peg holes right there that it pegs into. And then this piece pegs in right there. The light, it looks like, clips in right in that L shape around the hoses. Just like that. Now what does this, where does this piece go here? Let's take a look at the other side. So this clips right into here. Just like that. There's a peg hole right here that you just snap it into.  So we open the back and it just sits right there. Just like that. So let's go ahead and open the doors. If I can get them open. Okay. And we do have the seat, which comes out, spins around. Just like that. It is on an armature. And as you can see, there's the built-in proton pack on the back of it. So this door, it's on a curved bracket. Uh-oh. Okay. So be careful with this one. What you have to do is open it all the way towards the Ecto. And you got to kind of do this in order to close it. It did stick on me at first. So it doesn't look like the plasma series figures are really going to be able to fit in here. And this back door looks like does not open. It's just sculpted it. But even though the plasma series figures aren't going to be able to fit in here, in fact, let's go ahead and grab one just to show you. So here we have Peter Vankeman. And as you can see, he is too tall for the Ecto. There's no way he's going to be able to fit in there. And the fact that the steering wheel is so close to the seat would make it all the more difficult for him to fit in there. But it is still a cool piece, a cool display piece, nonetheless, and a cool play piece. I really like the paint job on it. It rolls fine. I forgot to close the back hatch. I really like all the detail on it. I have not had an Ecto one since the real Ghostbusters toyline. When I played with my toys as a kid, let's just say I wasn't that nice to them. I had the Ecto one as well as the Superpowers Batmobile. And I had them get into a car crash. And I set them on fire. Not thinking what that would mean. So needless to say, I ruined both vehicles.  At the time, I wanted to be as realistic as possible with my toys, playing with my toys. So yeah, it's one of those deals. So let's go ahead and we'll get the other Plasma Series figures lined up next to Ecto. And here we have the entire Ghostbusters Hasbro Plasma Series toyline. We have the Terror Dogs. We have Lewis Tully. We have Dana Barrett. We have Gozer. We have Peter, Egon, Ray, Winston. And now we have the Ecto one. So I hope you guys enjoyed this unboxing, unboxing slash review. I hope you tune in again next time. We're going to be doing a lot more history and origins videos on this channel and a lot fewer toy reviews. However, we are going to cut our videos down to about once a week now. And that's because of with schooling, as well as managing my other channels, I don't really have time to do multiple videos a week. So you're going to get videos once a week, probably every Thursday, unless it's a special occasion like this week, when you get the Ecto one today. Also, if you're into true crime, serial killers, the paranormal, and psychology, make sure you head on over to my other channel, Psychology of the Unknown, where I have been doing a series here lately on serial killers. I've done Edward Edwards, I've done Son of Sam, and I've done Freight Train, the Hobo Child Killer. Coming up soon, I'll be doing the Columbine Massacre Shooters. So yeah, head on over there, the link will be in the description below, as well as it will be linked at the end screen here. 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