You know I was right. It's real to me. Hey man, welcome back to the 85 South Show.  We just being real objective, man. One of my favorite objective opinions in the podcast we're in the media game. Loon Lagoon. Yes, Lord. Welcome to the trap. Yes, Lord. It's always good when you can have people come through and then have them type of conversation. You know what I'm saying? The right way, with the right energy, with the right type of objections. Right. To let the conversation live.  What if? Right. What if? It's important we live in that what if too, man. Cause a lot of the what ifs are starting to become realities. Yeah. You know what I mean? Just like this was a what if. It's a reality now. Right. The next step is a what if. If we keep marching it's gonna be a reality. So we need to spend time in the what ifs. But that's what we were just talking about though. It's like, as media creators and content creators and shit, it's certain topics and trigger words that you can throw around for any action. That's why you keep seeing the same topics recycled and reword it slightly different. But it's pretty much all the same thing. Right. Reacts beef. Right. Trigger words. How much should a man or would a woman or could you date a? Oh. Why? Why is this a question? Right.  Right. And then the people who's doing the hypothetical a lot of times they trying to tap into the algorithm. Right. So they ain't even true to what the conversation is. Right. I'm being lucky in what I'm doing that I'm tapping into the algorithm with true conversations. Same way y'all do. That's a different that's a different thing. Cause these people are trying to factory this thing. Right. To make it where it hits the algorithm and we're able to do it with just regular conversation. You know, that's a deep, deep, deep, deep thing and it's very valuable. Right. We got to start speaking on the value of us two in our Raj form. Just us talking like this. Gotta be us to do this. Can't no other race do this like this. Right. Ain't gonna happen nowhere in the world. And we got to understand and understand on it in the meetings. I'm standing on it. Man, what made you come into the media world? Really just watching. Really I'm a fan of conversation. I'm a fan of information. Right. So I'm an information based person. And so when the podcast stuff started, I instantly took a like into so much information. It's almost like the encyclopedias live in podcasting now. Right.   Like how do you- That's the fascination to me too, the new information. Yeah man. What's some of the podcasts that you listen to check out that people wouldn't think? I'm, of course I watch Joe Rogan. Right. Because he got all the markets. It's important to understand him from top to bottom. Plus he the motherfucking highest earner. Yeah. And also they have great conversations. Yeah. About interest and top. Exactly. And it's important that I adopt that in a way that's like hold on to that because they'll trick you into thinking you need to chase these names or chase these moments. Like we just saying chase these words. When I'm watching a dude got 500 over there that ain't chase nothing. He might talk about COVID when it's hot but these are conversation pieces. Right. And for me, I check Rogan out. I check out Lex Freeman. I check out the Tim Cassie, the dude that Yated just walked off on. Like I'm watching those guys. Bird, Christ and the Time Cigar. Yeah. You know, I've watched what they did. They built a network over there where they are making a killing. Watching y'all. And like I say, bro, those things I tap into and it's almost for a business side of things. Especially Rogan. He's my number one, I'm on him. I'm, oh, oh, that move, that move. He had the dude on that bit said he was went through the Congo looking for a dinosaur.  Now, now what happens is just like y'all and this is important for us to understand in content world. Once you get it up and going, once they understand like me, they understand, ah, he wanted him, he information there. So now it's, it run itself. The dude start reaching out to you. They know he sit down with people that climb 16 mountains in six days, right? So they reaching out. Like some of them stories are finding you. You just gotta make it clear to your people that this is what I'm on. I ain't just, I can't let you pin me right here.  But it's important that I spread my wings, right? And they respect it. Hopefully if not, I still got to go with the move. You know what I mean? You got to. Who you listen to podcast that people wouldn't think?  I think it's called just pearly things. What they do to people in the UK.  It'd be real interesting because they'd be so politely disagreeing.    I watch, I watch Bird and Tom sometimes unless they start getting too weird. Yeah, you know that. Yeah, they get to being too weird sometimes. I come across a lot of media and content across my time.  I check out everything actually. Just to see, well especially anytime I see like some black people content, I want to see it. Even if I disagree with it, I still want it to be like have something to base the disagreeing off of. Sometimes I just need to hear different.  And you know once you watch one, they show you all of them. Right.  Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's it.  Cause we need, like you said, we need to exchange information. Right.   And I'm sitting there like, damn. And also speaking of Bird and Tom, they have a thirst to understand our culture. And that's why it's important to see us over there. Or sometimes us have conversations cause they have a, they don't understand a lot of things they may speak about, right? Even they're not supposed to. Right. But they won't understand. They're not going to either way. You don't think so? Hell no.  I'm talking about just explaining now. You know, not a sign the young thug and that's a joint venture in the rap world. They don't need to know all that. You don't think so. They speak on and influence their people? No. And we don't care that their confusion is there? No.    No more joint ventures. Mm.  I got to respect it. Yeah. I got to respect it. You agree with that? You got to keep in mind, man, they are white men.  Nah, what I'm saying is I believe it's valued in the marketplace. Oh no. And I'm hustling it. So I believe it's value in the marketplace when you see people with a massive platform and a misunderstanding. There's a problem that needs to be fixed. And I'm a problem solved. You know what I'm saying? That's how I look at that. And for me, I understand that they have a thirst for understanding. They try to talk about it sometimes. And my thing is, show that audience and figure that out business-wise. My emotions ain't tied into much of nothing. I've been hurt. I come from the darkness. I feel you.  Outside of that, my emotions ain't tied. I almost love almost don't get my emotions. They understand? Why not? Because I've already been mishandled. They've misplaced what they should have done with me. When I was vulnerable. And so when I'm a counselor and I expose myself to certain things, it's uncomfortable. And it's at the detriment of the goal. And it's in your hands, right? So say I start loving you and I love you and I open it all the way up and I love you, right?  Now I take my mind off the goal and try to straighten that out. Cause I don't want to, this is important. Love is important to me. Yeah. And that's what's important. I don't give access to it as much cause it's just that important to me. That's cheating yourself. Maybe. That's why they say black men don't know how to love. You cheating yourself. That's the risk of being in love or loving. See, why risk, what's the risk? You take a risk with everything else that you do in life. Why not take a risk on the best part? Let me ask you this, what do you gain with love? What do you gain for filming? Human experience.  Cause that's all that everybody's looking for anyway.  That's the only thing that'll apply to that. If you love something, you'll do it for free. And I don't want to say I don't love cause I do love, but it's important that I'm, me, I know that I have a paranoia with vulnerability. And so my emotions are in my background. But think about all the other chances that you take in life. You get in your car and you take a chance. You trust some complete stranger to drive on the other side. Based on emotion, based on the hundred years of cost. They done done this a hundred years. Yeah, they done been in love for thousands.  Nah, it's for the same reason. The same reason. I mean, I don't know. I'm not saying that I'm right about this, but I know that- It's good conversation. Anything that you do, you take a risk. That's facts. So I mean, the greater the risk, the greater the reward. It's just gotta be worth it. When it comes to love, you have to find your tribe. And I think that too many times that we feel in love is because we allow ourselves to fall in love with people that don't have our best interests, or there's the same interests. We try to convince people to love us. You know what I'm saying?  It's not the same. Yes it is. No, it's not.  They ain't the same as love. No, I'm talking about naturally just take you in and you don't have to- Compatibility. Compatibility. You know what you compatible with. Don't be trying to turn yourself on- Squat, pee, get around, hold. Yeah, don't be so amped to this going different places. Please accept me. Please. I wanna be down with your clique. It ain't never gonna work like- No it's not. It's like trying to join a gang. Right. It's like trying to join a gang and whatnot. And this is different types of rule when you join gangs and stuff. You know, I don't wanna go too deep in it but what I will say is on when it comes to my understanding of those organizations and everything that is an organization. It's not based on feelings and emotions and compatibility.  And what's that way? You can look at it, whatever it like, think about it. When motherfuckers be together for years and years and they break up, it ain't necessarily got to be cause somebody was unfaithful. It ain't got to be cause of financial. Sometimes motherfuckers just want freedom. Yes, Lord.   I don't wanna be 49. I don't never wanna be 49. I just wanna live my life, my kids is grown, my bills is paid, I got a big old pretty house and I live in there by myself and if I wanna spend a little time with somebody, I can do that. But as far as needs, I'm good on all that. People wanna be free.  No man, it's not that.   I can't take this. I love you. I gave you everything I can give you. I raised my kids. We sent them to school. Everybody grown.  Man, look at the price. But you bought your love. But you bought your love. Look at the price you paid for that. You bought that. You wanted what? People wanna talk about compromise. You made the compromise to be with somebody who you knew had a weakness. But love ain't compromising. Love is. Yes it is. No, is it? Damn, that's deep. Cause people will argue that it is. It is. It has to. It's 100%, well I don't know. That's a good conversation.  No, it's not compromising. It's a partnership. Taking me as I am. No, it's not. Yeah. Taking you as you are is me compromising. No, it's not.  Okay. That you wanna take and make her your wife. Hold on.  Your house or her house? We gonna live in my house. Somebody gotta compromise on that decision, right? And taking me as I am is ignoring everything I want. Right.   Somebody gotta compromise.  How many times can we agree with each other? You disagree enough times, guess what?  It's a good conversation.  And you don't learn the amount of times that you having to compromise and say, damn, I ain't getting my way again. Damn, we do everything you wanna do.  Okay, now my new question is, how much compromise is love though? Because at some point, too much compromise is... What are our boundaries? Yeah. What are our boundaries? Means you don't have boundaries. Too much compromise means you don't have boundaries. No, we gotta have boundaries because boundaries equals super respect. Ooh, there we go. And we cookin' now. You gotta compromise.  Nah, you don't gotta agree on my boundary. Okay. Right? Cause you... Yeah. Yeah. She get tricky. Yeah. You don't gotta... If you don't agree... How much is too much for you and how much is not enough for me? Yes, Lord. And that's a weird spot. Now, how much of that can I focus on? And I'm looking at 500 over here. I'm trying to run this bag up and all this confusion about... You understand what I'm... Look at all that, man. Compromising. What is that? And how much compromise? Oh, what about boundaries? Hold on. Now, respect got to come in some way. But we say what we got to do. Okay, but let's also... We gotta tell the truth, too.  Tell me what it is. What is expected of me? And I'ma tell you what's expected of me. I don't like that kind of conversation with no motherfucker.  Okay, but that's good. Don't waste my time. See, you're not gonna see it as her being direct.  I take it as most women not to know what to expect. Right? Cause I know most men don't know what to provide. No, most women think that they can change your mind. That's true. But I think that most women don't know what to expect because most men don't know what to provide. So I take it as when I meet a woman, I'm gonna do what I do. Whatever I do need to translate into what it looked like for a man to be in your life in your opinion. If it don't, then I'ma take it like you dropping the ball. But your example before me is gonna always lead to your understanding of a guy. Right? So how do I know whether or not you are prepared for this type of situation I'ma put you in? And for me, I just don't think love is something you can play with like you. I don't have the time, man. I don't have the time for it. So you're saying that love should be transactional? No. What are you in that from? On some level. What did you get there? I didn't say that.  He agreed with me, dawg. So you don't know what you're doing. I don't wanna agree with you.  They're gonna take that on the internet. So I don't agree with you. But on some, I use the wrong word. Love should be an exchange. An exchange of a barter. That could, you could put a thousand words in that blank spot right there. What do you want and what am I willing to give you? Man. And what do you have to offer? See how many different angles you could take from that? Yeah, I do see what, I'm trying to see what's good for me and you seeing what's good for you and if we can meet in the middle.   That's it. That's what it's all about.  Do you know what I mean?   You did what I'm saying. Right. Now, what about, but you believe love has no compromise. I believe, now that I'm thinking about it, that you have to compromise because male and female are two totally different species. So we don't naturally want different things. And so that's gonna naturally be some sort of compromise.  The same sex don't got to compromise. That's not, no, no. Yeah, we like the same thing. No, we don't. No, we don't. The same sex? No, we don't. Okay, help me understand what you're saying.  I'm pretty sure. Okay, so if you have a woman, you saying that there's no, you said love is not compromised. Yes. So how do you explain her being a totally different species? Like she's a woman. She comes in, her understanding is different. What she wanna provide is compatible. But the understanding for her to translate it gonna have to have some compromise there. Let's say if you, this was 85%ersmeet.com. Right. Oh, you're gonna have all these different boxes that you check off of things that go inside your personality and things that you are willing to accept and things that are deal breakers. Yes. Yeah. And so you got to find. But the way you put it is, that means if you had a checklist of 100 things and somebody checked off, 99. You ain't messing with me.  That one compromise, you saying no sir. Oh, no, that's not what I'm saying. Okay. That's not what I mean. All right, so we wanna just clarify that. Okay, this is what I do. That's really what you're saying. This is what I do.  All right, so what I'm just saying though, you said 90% right. But you see those 10 that went unchecked. That 10 that went unchecked. That's the breaking point. That's the breaking point. But if we over 50, we doing a great job. But I'm just saying, it's for like you said, the sake of argument. You ain't love. She ain't checked, but just enough. She checked 51 out of a hundred. Well maybe. And you say, you know what? I love her so much.  I love her so much, maybe I'm gonna keep her close as a compatible friend. But guess what?  They'll hold on as long as you make it comfortable for them to hold on. What does that mean? Unless they're talking to somebody else? Yeah, cause I mean, I would take it that anybody I'm dealing with has, should have some kind of options.  Well, this is the best you got right here.  Nope, that's the thing.  She was doing you a favor. I'm not gonna let you do that just a few years. Look how much credit you gave her. You gave her 90, she was 90% perfect for you.  That's fact. I've had that before. I've had that before and then me and her was able to get to an agreement that oh, you was just upset with me at the time and I'm sorry I made you feel that way. Look at the compromise you had to make. Why don't you wanna compromise? Something didn't happen to you.   Because people may adopt that behavior, not understanding that that's a result or something. Stop trying to be the victim all the time.   You did, Jack.  I was everything. Ray, you wasted that later time. Well, those latest time like that. No, I was everything to them. They were lying to me. Right, they should have. They was lying to me telling me this is what they wanted, but it wasn't enough and it wasn't happening fast enough. Well, that says a lot about you. What does it? What does it say about me called?   No, and it didn't.    You just kept doing it. I got one eye for God's sake.    When have you ever used your one eye as an excuse out of anything? I don't do it too often. Right.  Okay, maybe I might have left my draws. Accountability. More than five or six times. Accountability.  And I can admit to that. Maturity. But it's petty. Yeah. And it's something that we can get past. No, it's not. No, it's not. It depends on whatever the perspective you're looking from. I don't leave the toilet seat up.  It brought the world closer. Right.  That's deep.    You know. You never heard the little person never with you. Right. That's an individual that take you all together. That's the only individual that's affected. Oh, look, until them follow you, you forgot all about that.  I wanted to ask y'all this, how long y'all been doing comedy? Shit. I remember. Back when I started doing comedy, you can get a coke for a nickel. Nah, what is it? Shit. It's about to be 18 years almost. And if you don't get it like that, if it ain't them type numbers. Yeah, dude. See, we're going to, I'm going, yeah, it's 17 years.  How long you been doing it? Since I was 17, and I'm 40 now, 23 years. See what I'm talking about? Take along that craftsmanship, but boy, some of the best people at it, when you get that up under your belt. When I was riding, I was listening to that episode, what Dool was speaking about, the kings of comedy being on tour, and how that affected comedy clubs. And I said, damn, that was deep. Like people will hold their, I'm not going to see, butting them. Right. And just think about that. Your innovation, because they will be innovative with that. They felt like, man, this is going to kill it. Us three together, that's going to smoke it. Or us four, that's going to smoke it. But it was affecting comedy club. That was a deep conversation. Do y'all remember that? You remember that? I went to go see it when I was 17. That's what turned me all the way on, man. I went to go see it in Philip Serena. And it was the most amazing thing I've ever seen in my life.  And yeah, I had to sneak in again, to go check it out the next night, man.  Yes, Lord. You know, to see somebody like Steve Harvey going from Steve Hightower to turn into this guy that says, you know what I'm saying? Choice words and then to see Bernie Mac and his prime, like he just breaking out. Them dudes was, and they taught me inflection. Them dudes, like Bernie and especially Harvey. Oh man.  DL beat it too. Yeah, DL, all of them. That's what I'm saying. Just that it's like, again, you develop that when you understand that I have to separate these characters in real time, like on stage. Man, I was talking to this girl. Look at her, she looked like the type of girl that I say, and you go into another voice. And say it, whatever you was. That was the professionalism, man. That was the years of working in the clubs and putting it on the ground and just, you know, like being present in the moment. Like you said, I always having something ready. I really like watching Kings of Comedy.  That's what it was, yeah.  Up different perspectives. Bits, yeah. What did nobody, you know what I mean? Different bits.  And it's just like, it gave everybody their own shine. How long did they do? What was it, 30 minutes since? About the 20? 20, good, just boom, bam, bam, boom, boom. Come out, swing. Yeah, they was coming out, swing them.  Burning man come out, just bam, yes, to me. Burning man did 30. About 30. He closed. Because he was the closest. Damn. That's deep. Yeah, there's definitely something to see, man, for a kid in shit, live, with all that energy around.  This is amazing. I remember one time when I was in fucking, maybe like, was it 10th grade, I think? Probably 10th grade. I went to a comedy show, it was like, I know for show Ricky Smiley was the headliner. He used to kill it too. You went into 10th grade? Yeah, man, it was at Ole Miss and I know I went in like, you had to be like an Ole Miss student.   And it was on like a campus building and she like, he came around the corner and she was like, that go a little down.  I've heard. Yeah. You know, he was, but yeah, because sometimes you get caught into that viral, whatever take you, they know you from that, but do them. But that's black people nature though. Yeah.  Like dude, they play them power out where you have, he show up at his ghost. Nice ghost. Look at ghost, man, playing us such and such. Mike F's gonna always be day-day. Pirate. Who else got that tag on them?  You got that Craig on them. Hell yeah, it's a lot of black people like that. Yeah, I just can't thank them, but it's a lot of them. It's a lot of them.  Oh, you talking about like 20,000? Shit, Leon gonna always be David Ruffin. Oh yeah. Oh, JT Matthews. It's a lot of them. Or Lil Richard. Come on, man. Yeah. It's a lot of them. But see people, the girls like Jamie don't nothing stick to him. Cause he named himself Jamie on the show. I'm over here, I'm over here. But see it, even if he go do those movies, those legendary roles still don't stick to his like, that's the, but that's what you just said.  Nigga, if you saw Tyreeze, you and you branded Jamie to begin with.  With Jody. We got a lot of them. Steve Erkham. He can't shake it for shit, no matter what he do. Steve Erkham. Oh my God, it wins Lil. He might be the worst one. Steve Erkham may be number one numeral on the okay. He branded it to him later. He branded it to him later. Yeah. That brand stuck on him, boy. He shook it. I feel like he shook it. Yeah, he, but give me something better than Steve Erkham. Give me something better than him.  It was over him to shake Kane. Give me something better than Steve Erkham. It ain't them, they're Debo, there it go. Debo, Debo better than Steve Erkham. Oh, Debo or Steve Erkham. Smoke, now Chris, now Chris did too much. Chris grew up out of that smoke. Y'all called him Smokey all through Russia. Yeah. And they was on four, showing up. But now I think the battle is, damn, I think that's the battle. Steve Erkham and Debo. But we should all be so lucky to get a memorable role like that. Right. Hey man, you listen. Felicia. Carlton. Carlton, Felicia. That's the four, that's the Avengers. Felicia, Carlton, Steve Virgo, and who was that? Seely. Debo, who? Big worm. Big worm, that's another hard one. But Seely, Whoopi Goldberg will always be Seely. Brumman, you're definitely right about your Brumman. Brumman. Steve Erkham still sticking out to me though. I ain't boy, all these is hitting hard, but that motherfucker, Erkham, it don't matter what he do. No, he the biggest one. Yeah. He got to be. He got to be. So you said that was doing 20,000, 20,000 Steve Harvey now. Yep. How many be at Wildin' out? How many do that be? 10, 20. You know what I'm saying? So that's something. A lot, a game. Hell yeah. I know we done had at least one show about that. Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know now, but when I was on it.   Yeah, it do. It ain't no instant. It's a different timing from the live show to the live, from the live recording to the live show. It's a whole different show live. So you're pacing is different, the time is different. And that's me on the outside and all. Just understand and just technique with even communication. I'm knowing, boy, that's a lot of people to entertain. Hell yeah. You can feel it though. Like even backstage, like it just, you can always tell when the show about to be crazy. You can just feel the energy just all around the arena. Yeah. Should be hard. Right. That's what's up. Tell them about the show, man.  I don't even know what we're going. Hey, April 30th, we will be in Denver, Colorado. Oh, theater. Please. A three headed monster tour. Hey, you're not, did I say it right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the behind us on this green screen. They got to get it to me.  We just gonna put behind us on the green screen. That's what's up. Three head monster. Three head monster.   Three head monster. Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. April 30th, if we got a big storm coming from the left and we're going to bring it down, it's called a three headed monster tour and they're going to come in and they're going to sweep the whole city. Right.  Whatever. Yeah. They'll go theater. Little haggie there. We back. Yeah. Yeah. I really got a three head monster. Oh, you got to go to the hospital. I did. All this show girl, Lex P, and I have a very special announcement. Well, I already announced it, but I'll let y'all know again, we are going on tour. It's starting in June, y'all. Look, we're announcing it extra early. So y'all got time to get your tickets. No excuses. We got LA, Philly, Chicago, Atlanta, Houston. Now listen to me, because I know how y'all get. We are still adding dates. I repeat, we are still adding dates, but if you see your city right now, go ahead and get your tickets. If you don't see your city, don't worry, we're still coming, okay? So make sure y'all go to www.poorminds.com and get y'all VIP meet and greets. We all saw it, boo. Welcome back to 85 Self Show. Number one show amongst people who owe you money when you ask them about it and say they going to call you back, but they never do. So you know what you want to say to LeBron when he actually does reply? You've been thinking of that, huh? Yeah. Huh? I don't. I just, I'm interested in just understanding how it even, how am I even getting on Kevin Durand and all these people, LeBron and any of their radars. I don't even understand. They're wild to watch Lil Baby. Yeah, Baby got that reach. Yeah, yeah. He got that reach. Baby, that's my guy. Shout out to Baby. That's my brother. Shout out to him, a real one. Yeah, for sure. That's my guy. Four pockets full. All the way out there. Four pockets full. Back outside by Baby.  Man, grateful, thankful. Keep doing your motherfucking thing, bro. Appreciate it, brother. What you want to take it to? Five hundred million. Dollars or views? Five of views. Oh, okay. Respectfully to my fans and supporters, but now five hundred, they get that. You know, when Rogan did a breakdown, that's five hundred million. Right. That's three years old. So me going in the future, asking for that, should be respectful to the market. Right. And I plan on putting the work in. And I understand how and where to put the work in. That's what's important. You got to know what a leak at in the house.   I know what people to speak with. With material to use, all that. Right? And so I feel comfortable about it. And I got a few people who won't invest. I've been carrying it myself. It's been a hard fight. Right? You know what it's like to own a company. Yeah, I know a little something about that. So it's a fight, you know? But I love it. I enjoy it, bro. This is life for me now. When you feel like, what was your break out? My break out in regards to. In regards to like, damn, they really like me. They really, really like me. As much as I would want to think it came like, boy as much as I would want to think it's coming like one thing, it's a collectable thing.  You know what I'm saying? It ain't like just it show up as an adult. It's like, it's like, I'm seeing it grow. Where it's like, damn, it started right here. Well, kind of C-list celebrity, D-list celebrity. And it started to creep up. Damn, a CEO of a company. Damn, that company reached out, damn. And it's just like forming into it. And I'm just grateful, bro. You know, I'm just thankful to be. I was telling Ryan that like, people tell me just, man, how you do it? And the companies are trying to, they put me in a position where they're trying to figure out what I'm doing.  I'm just talking. You know what I'm saying? I ain't doing nothing but being me and people like it. So I appreciate the people for supporting it. You know what I'm saying? Everywhere I go now, somebody know me and I don't understand that. You know what I'm saying? Like I still ain't wrapped my mind around that. Even when you say my name, Russ reach out to me, Kevin DeRene in my DM, just meet me or read like, it's just every day somebody is hitting me. And it's just like, man, you didn't know me. It should resonate with people and it's giving people that look like me. Say, man, maybe we can do that right there. Cause just like y'all inspiring comics, I'm inspiring dudes that come out of the jungle to say, boy, if you had to survive in that for real and you can formulate an opinion and understand content and algorithm and a couple of these things, you might can put yourself in a position. You know what I'm saying? So I don't think it was something that I just noticed where it's like, and I'm still growing into understanding it, right? I don't get negative comments.  But, right. You just wanna know what it feel like.  It's just like, bro, people really enjoy and I'm just, I'm ecstatic. I'm excited about the market. I understand it. Like I feel lucky. I feel like, oh, I understand it. This ain't one of them play-play things. Dude, understanding he know what's going on. What a tap in that, how to tap into it. What the business, what the value is. This is important. What is worth and what it costs. Some people just focus on what it's worth. You got to know what things cost to it, right? Cost and value. Yeah. What you mean, you break that cost down for me. Right, so the cost of doing business, the cost of sacrificing whatever it is, right? So even from a business perspective, we can start there, say you get a million dollar check. It cost to run the business, the building cost, the lights cost, the travel cost, the hotels cost, right? So that number look different in regards to on camera, talent, right? Versus running the business. And so there's a cost associated with it, but some people say, man, the business, they got a million dollars. Because they don't know what it costs to run the business. They think that that million dollars should funnel all the way down. You know what I'm saying? So, and also understanding what it costs when you sacrifice to even get where we going or trying to go or where we at. We sacrifice something to get here. This is not by luck, especially when you say 18 years or 22. Nah, this is by desire. Right, so we need our 500 million too. Yes, Lord. That's all I'm saying. When did you figure out your worth? Was it in comparison to what Joe Rogan's doing and just how you measure it? Oh, they giving away some money like that. The market tells me the worth. And for me, I don't know my worth yet. I know the goal. Your worth and the goal are two different things. My worth, I'm trying to distinguish, right? Cause I'm having seven figure means with companies and I'm trying to understand, is this a low ball?  What is it worth my reach for baby to come to me on this rollout? What does that, what does that mean? You know what I'm saying? It's important I don't skip past these things.  Love him forever. We talk about those kind. I try to talk to him about that. Like, what is it worth this reach? Right, for me to be able to, I just did B Marshall and Fred Taylor, right? This is the IM athlete beef. They won't talk to the same person. If you talk to one of them, you probably ain't gonna talk to the other one. They don't do that. It's a problem now. I just did both of them. So what is that worth, right? What is me being able to reach out the lowest and come to 85? What is that worth? Cause these companies can't really do this. They not tricking me. What is this worth? And so I really still don't know the worth. I know the value of the market because of what Rogan warranted, because of what Carl her daddy's doing, because of what my brother Walo and Gilly is doing, right? And so you see the market warranting certain numbers and that's my, again, I'm information based, not emotional. I ain't saying 500 and some people probably think that's emotional. He did think he lack, not it's information based. Somebody got 500 three years ago when they deal played out. I understand the market. All right.  It might be worth 750. A billion. You know what I'm saying? How do we know? You know what I'm saying? They say Kanye West ain't a billionaire no more. I disagree. I think Kanye West value is still his value. She wants you to learn how to do it. His contracts and agreements are no longer in place. You know what I'm saying? Well, what's your value? What's your value? Do you know? No, I'm trying to figure it out right now, right? 89.50. I would say you got a pretty good understanding of your value. You know you too. You understand what, you know, if I go on tour, I warrant this. An appearance warrants this. The market says this, you know? I know my value.  That's good to hear though. People need to hear that. I generate, I make money. It go further than just, oh, I'm coming to your city to sell out a show. Think about it.  Then they gon' go to the club after the show. They gon' smoke some hookah. They gon' eat again. Then they gon' stop on the way home. Pay for parking. Pay for parking. Nigga, I been making money all week before I got there. The ladies didn't want to go. They had done. Nigga got a haircut. They done watched the cars. They hope you don't understand. This is important. Right, this is value.  They bought the tickets. They bought food. They bought drinks. They bought some more drinks. They get by drinks all the motherfucking night. They done spent $200 when they got there. Two, three hundred more per cup. And I know there's 20, 30, you know what I mean?  Can you still, is there a way to tap in there? These still concession prices.  Ain't got a choice. Got you hung up in here lying long.   You got to know how much money, it's not about how much they can pay you. How much money can you generate? That's how you base your pay scale. All right, make 20. What we going? Louisville, Kentucky. Man, to the who? The KFC Yum Center. We ain't got no KFC, yeah. But it's going to be at the Yum Center. Is it Louisville or Lusco? It's Louisville. It's definitely Louisville. Louisville. Yeah, Louisville. It's Louisville. Louisville. I need KFC to bring us chicken, bro. Is that close to the Kentucky Derby? It's in Kentucky. I mean, but is it close to the day that we going to be there?  Bring me some bluegrass. For real. Hey, Bubba Johnson going to be there? Bubba Johnson? Yeah. That nigga. Bubba Johnson, Ralph Horses. He the NASCAR. Kentucky, I thought that was a car. No, nigga, that's- Hey, man, come to the show. Come to the show a little bit. That's perfect. Bring the horn. You know what he said. Yeah. You can come, you know what I mean. That's the NASCAR, dude. Yeah. I thought I could take Derby in the car. No, that's the- That's the dates on the 500 that you got the Derby.  Hey, man, get your tickets. May 20 at KFC Yum Center. Shit, take me to the horse and then he's like- You got that, y'all. Yes, you got that. I always thought I could take Derby with a horse. I meant with a car. Hey, what's up? It's Carlos Miller. I hope you're having a good day. Try some of these candles from my favorite candle brand, Good Day Sense, candle company. They are black-owned and have lots of different scents to choose from. Use my code, L-O-U-S. That's low.  Let me see.  You got to go on there and check them out. So when you see these candles, just know that I'm having a good day. You know, these candles have been approved by everybody that we ever presented them to from Snoop and even Beyonce posted these on the website. This one right here, I think. So go hit the website and grab you some of these candles. Do you say you don't know? Yeah, I think access to value depends on the market, right, when you understand what you can want. Right. So that's why I always laugh at people who say, who try to tell you what success is. It's motherfuckers who come in through your city two, three times a year, who ain't your favorite at nothing.   You ain't never gonna move to the Fox. Yeah, we're doing great business over here. All right. So you want me to do one show at the Fox or you want me to do three at this look? Or you want me to do three at Santa Stan? Yeah. Come on, man. And then again, again, those numbers, I'm looking at the information, not how you feel about seeing 10,000 people at once. I'm looking at five shows.  Trying to get out the house. Right. Yeah. Do you, which I'll sell at tickets, you know, ticket master is not just ticket master, but the service and price on ticket sales, it's a weird thing. People are bringing attention to like, say you want to reach your fans or I want to reach one of us who want to reach our fans for $25. And we put a ticket out for $25.  Insurance. Insurance on what? The venue. On each ticket. Yeah. That amount of money. If something happened to every, if something happened at the venue and it hurt a bunch of people, do you believe insurance is a scam? Cause some people say that. Of course it is. That's why it's legal. All the legal, all the best records ever. Yes. They want you to pay money in case something happened. They know something's gonna happen. Oh man, that's weird. That's servicing fee. That could be money in your pocket. You the one selling the ticket.   You don't know, like, it's gonna say that you buying the ticket cause it's digital, right? It's a footprint. But you're not really buying no ticket to this venue. You're not buying that space. There's no processing happening. Exactly. So they're charging a process.  Yeah, and that happens. Back in the day, there was some sort of real filing of some, you know what I mean? There was some sort of system. Now there's literally the internet that, cause I process payments for my store, for my merch. But that's what I'm saying. Even you have to pay that. That's a, but it's a fake thing is what I'm saying. Yes. There's no real processing of anything.  They got you, man. That's the process. The transaction fee. They're charging you. What does that mean? That means that they're charging you to spend money on the internet. So for them to take it from- You would not be here for no other reason if Carlos Miller wasn't selling a ticket to this venue. No. So what they're charging you for is, to use that platform. I think it's unreasonable. It's for you to use that platform. I think they've cornered it. Take this money out your electronic bank and put it into our electronic wallet. There is a process. Somebody had to write a process. Not anymore. Back in the day.  Every time somebody make a transaction on the internet.  No, I know it's a real thing. I'm saying it's a fake thing. It's real in the fact that it's happening. It's fake that it shouldn't be happening. But loon, we can't do that about it. It's not going anywhere. Yeah, but it's just identifying it. It's just saying, damn, that's a weird thing. And it's becoming, I guess I'll say this, it's becoming a problem for some of the bigger acts. They're starting to draw to it like, who is it? I guess Cyrus, I think it is. Taylor Swift, I'm sorry. Taylor Swift, just, you know, she sells out crazy. So she did like 1.5 million sales first week. She had an issue with this.  Like I think she shut the whole thing down. Good. That's what I'm saying. Because it's extra money that she's not seeing.  But Taylor Swift is only getting 30% of whatever the gross of a concert. So if it's $2 million to put on the concert and whatnot, she's only getting 30. Taylor Swift concert costs $2 million. You tell her no. Now she can do a million dollars for the stage and then the promoters do. I think she only making that. That's what they say. She had $10,000 tickets. For one show. See, that's what I'm saying. Just relax. She had a kind of ticket that was embarrassing the numbers like you, $13,000 for this ticket right here. That's why she was upset. Understand the servicing process and fee on $13,000. Hold on, tell me. You don't think Taylor Swift was getting $2 million or something? She's waiting more than that.  This is Taylor Swift. No, you said $2 million. Let's be clear. You said $2 million including budget for the show and the stage and all that. Her production is more than $2 million. She got, it's way more than that. It's Taylor Swift. This is one of the biggest artists in the world. She'd guarantee sell out whatever the motherfuckers come. $10,000 ticket. She had $10,000 ticket. That was easy. It was embarrassing. She did a million with internet, with bootlegging, with what you have. She did 1.5 million with 1,300 plays being one stream. She did 1.5 million first week. And a lot of that was, she did some kind of hard copy of vinyl or some kind of thing. They're getting crafty with the audience. That's what I'm trying to tell you. This is deeper than just, this is how things are. This is like, hold on.  You know, or not, that ain't cool. Get that right. Now you got an $18 million ad and 80% of those ads ran on my show. Split that up a little better. And so those conversations are getting louder. Yep, that's the game though.  Like it had to be Taylor Swift. Like I said, she's one of the biggest artists in the world.  They could have just kept going on until somebody like, it's biggest hurt come through.  That's what I was leading to before we went on. Not even the processing fee, just that. I'm glad you said that. Deeper than that. They said these services, and this is allegedly of course, but these services like Ticketmaster and stuff had a system where as soon as tickets go on sale they go out of sale. So they would buy every ticket themselves, boom, and then shoot them to the reseller market. So now if I'm just a regular fan that like you, I can't even get a ticket because they did some kind of weird work around to shoot the ticket over to the reseller market and make money as well as the processing fee. Okay, check this out.  All right, so you know it's a whole bunch of ticket scams that they can run, right?  They always gave, they know exactly how many, in that motherfucker, but if they run in the scam like they say they are, why they never know over abundance? You get what I'm saying? Scam is in the process. That's what I'm saying.  Nah, it's them.  You get this section and then you do this. Now they say sometimes they will let a few go out, but for the most part some of them real valuable little, right there by the state, bruh, they instantly, as soon as they gone, them gone. Yeah, them gone. You're like, hold on, what was that? Next thing you know they for sale over here on this little third party site. And it's like, damn, that's a... They gon' find out that all them little third party sites is really just back though to the main site. That's what that, that's basically, yeah, to sum it up. And so it's bigger, it's like, if you a ticket seller, y'all dudes gotta know how valuable that is. It's comedians, even if it's 200, 300, 500, that's a valuable thing. Like he said, to get somebody to come out, get a haircut, like, that's a valuable thing in this market. That conversion, very little people can convert people these days. We just see that, sweetie, shout out to sweeties on the file for having 12 million followers and then selling, I think they said like 2,000. Because the conversion of the people that follow you. She must have posted the link. She posted the link, but it's a conversion, it's a conversion. You know? Ain't no way. You don't believe something. She ain't tagged herself. Oh, but what is that? She don't like. Tapped 12 million followers and they say that, you know, try to get to me. And I don't want to attack her because a lot of the weirdo dudes are like, I don't know what it is. There's so many different ways to, because subscriber base anyway these days. So she probably, people are just listening to on Spotify and the Pandora's and, you know what I'm saying? They're pretty much not really downloadin' like they used to, right? Ain't no download. Ain't nothing, but baby did 215. Drake did 355 first week. This is screened. Oh, okay, whenever man. And so what I'm saying is maybe it was a marketing thing. Maybe that was a, right. Maybe they lied. I should've reached out to her. She should've came on my show. She should've maybe came here. Maybe they lied. Maybe they lied, you know what I'm saying? 2000 sales, right? 12 million followers. But what I'm more so speaking to is the conversion. What if she did more than somebody favorite artist and they had to make it look like she ain't sell shit? You could be just a publicity stunt.  Everything on Instagram that come on your feed might have her music playing on it. Trending on TikTok. They made six million video. How? The game dirty.  I think that's something that companies want to know from creators. You can't call it these days. Yeah, it changes. It changes.   Can you afford to pay her bills? No, we didn't even try.  No, she fine. I just know, I know, I know what I'm.  That ain't my, that ain't my, I'm not fine to him, I don't really want to.  Let me see him.  Let me see him. For what?  Oh yeah, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I ain't buying no Lambo truck. I know that much. She ain't even. But you a stretch far as you can for sweetie though. Keep it real. She ain't even. She's right. You a stretch far as you can for sweetie, keep it real. What, what? No, no, it's some, though, you know how many- She get 80% of your monthly bucks. No, she can't. Let me tell you something. There's some sweeties out here that ain't sweetie. It's a gang of sweetie looking like.  You bold. You bold. Hey, I'm wrong. You bold. Am I wrong? Mm-mm. Am I wrong, said the cap. Would you pay for them though? Would I pay for them? If that's all it took to have them. Man, if it was, if the most 150. What's your limit? A month. $150. A month. What? I do $150 a month. That's cool. Come on, Jack, let's be realistic here. That's what my book- Let's talk serious. That's my book. I'm dead at serious. I don't, that's my booty budget.   Yes, I am. $150 a month. I just had a sex with a girl who looked like sweetie yesterday. Don't- And she let me call her sweetie. There. 150. I disagree with that. Jack, come on, man. Cameras is on. Okay. Time to be honest. 80% of your budget can go to the sweetie. No. What percentage of your monthly budget can go to sweetie? 150 dollars.  See how- Man, what that nigga talking about? See how crazy this nigga is, bro? What that nigga talking about sitting on somebody's face?  Jack, man, stop, bro. Just stop.  Stop, bro. What you doing when you get up, bro?  Jack, man, stop. You don't want to laugh. I told you, man, we don't like the same thing. I ain't know you. I told you how to ride her face. Yeah, I know how to ride her face, man, yeah. Niggas up here with one eye riding her face. Oh, they in the hallway. That's a bad man, now. With the rope.  All right. And the cowboy had a- It'd be dangerous, boy.  And some tube size.  You'll never have a woman like that on 150 dollars. Child, please. Okay. You single? Yeah, I identify- What type of quality women? Let's not talk about the quantity. Because sometimes we get stuck on the quantity. Now I got them, I got them, yeah. Let's deal with the quality. Now, when you say quality, right?  Now, put me on, what does quality mean? I want to ask you, clarify quality to you. Okay, if you say quality to me is that she got a beard. Available. Quality to you is available. Quality to me is she got a job. She can take care of herself.  Right. Man, what, man, who is these hoes y'all talking about? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Where you, what's going on? Like- Y'all talking about some old goddamn- Damn, who is the new model chick? But let's keep clarifying quality. You ain't got them like that, Jack. She got it, huh? Jack, you ain't got them like that?  I mean, it depends on- You said she got a beard. She got a beard. That's big.  You got food inside your refrigerator. You know, basic necessities.  I don't make sure. You want me to believe that. I don't make sure. I don't make sure. Yeah, I'm trying. You know you're talking to me, bro. No, no, I understand what you're saying, one of them. Yeah.   So again, so that's what is quality. What is quality? Because you said you got food in a refrigerator. Yeah, quality is women that don't charge you for pussy. See, that's available. That's low standards.  Low hanging fruit.  You know, this is high hanging fruit. That don't- This is at the top of the tree. I ain't necessarily saying that don't charge, but that feels nasty. That feels nasty.  Hey, bro, y'all- It seemed like you're ignoring the standards. Y'all are getting fools go right now. What are you getting? I'm getting just normal everyday women. They ain't got no necessities, no needs at all.  Yeah, for $150 a month. That's if I had to do that. Stop playing, bro. What about you? And we talking about Uber Eats too. And we talking about door dashing. Yeah, go ahead, Carlos. What? That's what I'm- What do you think, bro? My booty budget. But what the budget would be? Right. For the old girl? Yeah. No, this is what you're willing to pay. Not pay, it's sound nasty. See, we can't call us paid, us paid. Contribute. You know, this, we ain't talking, he tricking. We talking about officials, his woman. You talking prostitution right now? Nah, nah, that ain't what I'm talking. You don't think I'm talking that, do you? Nah, I'm talking this your woman. Like, this my- Oh, this is my woman.  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now you're trying to clear it up for the woman. No, I was talking about, I identify as single and I'm dating. So we talking about my, what's my booty budget?  Yeah, we ain't talking about that.  Let me pass the ball. Yeah, man. Go ahead. Yeah, what's the budget, brother? That would, it would cost me. Right.  Cause I'm looking, I already had the number in my head when I think the monthly, her monthly bills are rare. Well, you take that number. She is, she seems to be excessive as hell. Yeah. Extra, I would say somewhere between a rough nine and 12,000 a month.  And I was right there with you. Oh, that's what y'all willing to do. No, we say we identify in the numbers here, sir. Okay, got it, all right. Can you handle something like that 9 to 12? No, I can't. And I'm not gonna try. Yourself, can you yourself without beloved? You yourself. Can I do that for myself? Are you living that way? See, if you live in that way, it don't seem so uncomfortable to talk about. Yes, I get if it's reaching up a whole wall now. I see the baby. I'm going up to nine.  I'm asking. I see what you're doing. I'm asking. I see what you can do. No, I ain't doing nothing. I definitely, I definitely spent it on me.  Yeah, good question. Okay, you talking about, you talking about doing them girls, getting their ties rotated on them and getting their radiator flushed and all that other stuff.  Yeah, I'm talking about just bills, the car she drive, the kind of house, the condo, the shopping, the hair, the whatever you helping, this your woman. Okay.  Her maintenance. Yeah, her maintenance. All right, so I took this girl out the other night. Oh, here you go. No, dad, that's serious. Dad, that's serious. The number tag, the number. Okay, that's a number. Well, she didn't try me like that, though. But if I was just- Why is it getting tried? It's financially, let's have a conversation. Yeah. What's going on financially where every time you're spending money, you feel tried? Yeah, you got a financial demon or something like that. Yeah, what's going on about feeling tried about somebody you love? We talking your woman, I keep clarifying this. We're not talking about that. I'm hoping that this registers somewhere that we talking about your woman and you keep tapping out. I apologize. Can we start over? How my name is Jack? Okay, go ahead. All right. All right. For my woman, I guess what reason why I'm doing that is because I never spent that on a woman before, 12.5, that hasn't happened, or even a 5,000 a month. But if you're spending on yourself and it's your love when she's coming into your area.  Look at you, that's what I like. That's what I like.  Can you handle somebody that's used to 12,000 a month? No, no, I can't even. Even if they share your lifestyle, not you funding it. Because I'm trying to identify why it feels so nasty to you. If your lifestyle is 12,000 a month or nine, let's go with the logo. It's just unnecessary, bro. It's just in my mind right now. Your house might be 4500 a month. That knock-off, that leave you with 5,000, then you ain't got but 5,000. What kind of car you driving? I got it dropped off.  What kind of car you got her driving? Oh, I always bust her.  That's right. What you got her driving? She had already had a car for us, she came in for me to ride her face. You don't think if, when she got out of her ride, she came to get on this ride? That boy hard cold, man.  That's what my life is. I'm realistic with myself.  Turn right. Let's go back to bro. Turn right, bro. Let's go back to bro. See how you- Y'all are the ones calling Capredick over here. What's Capredick about that? Y'all talking about some spending 12.5 on the motherfuckers and all this over. We're saying that we're identifying them. That number scared him so bad. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Some financial is happening.    That nigga, they're harmed, man. Y'all over here, supercap, that's what you're saying to me. Yeah, Capredick. 12.5. I thought that we were talking about what we was doing. Is that what my understanding was? Did I misunderstand them or did they misunderstand me? Or am I tripping y'all? We're identifying numbers.  Yeah, you- Hey, listen, I'm pretty sure that Saweely, she is worth every bit of the 12.5. I'm pretty sure she is. All right, let's keep identifying numbers. You identifying worth, we trying to deal with numbers right now. So we believe it's nine to 12,000. Is that acceptable for a quality of woman like that? It really just depends on the situation. Right. What did you come in here with? Like, I'm saying this- What if that's her status? Like, we can remove her. She probably used to weigh more than that. That's what I'm saying. But I'm saying this ain't with no help or no niggas or nothing. I'm still thinking that just the bills that the house is about. That's what I'm telling you. Yeah. A good 12, they might- I would say anywhere from nine to 15. Yeah. It might get up there for real, especially if she got a little condo here and a big crib out here. Right. You know what I'm saying?  So that mean you can afford it?  Nah. I'm sorry I interrupted you. Go ahead. I'm just- What if- I'll be able to stand. I don't know. That you comfortable with? Just think about it. Even if you pay a third of that. Every month. Shit. Nah.     Like if you not ready to be that nigga, you don't need to fucking- Don't compete with them people? She got niggas and she ain't never met in real life sending her three-four thousand dollars a month. That's why I know you ain't hitting them kind of women. And they might be six to seven to eight of them. Yeah. Yeah. This is how I know you ain't having sex with them kind of women because the volume is high over there.     Like you keep saying- They're required, I'm sorry. They're required of that. They all do. They just ain't asking you for it because they know you don't have it.  I'll take it. Right. They only gon' ask for what they think they can get. I'll take it. I'll be there. I'm not saying like you look like- No disrespect, yeah. Now I don't feel disrespect.  And now the motherfuckers who was gon' try to get anything off you gon' be like can't ask that nigga for no more than six to seven hundred dollars. Praise God.  Your woman can't ask you for nothing. Your woman. She can't afford to live a decent lifestyle. You want to ride her face. She can't afford to live a decent lifestyle. He, you is riding faces.  Them kids' mama. Man, that lady can't get a good car.   Adele. Them kids' mama. Man, that kid's mama, man. She can't. Them kids' mama. Oh, you got to be lying, man. Them kids' mama. Them kids' mama, man. You getting on that lady's face, that lady, he got a good car, man. You wrong, man. I got it, I got it. Yeah, he assesses with it, too, man. You know you wrong, you assess him. I got to think about the kids, man. Man, they kids' mama, man. Jack, I'm glad somebody else see through your bullshit, man. If they be thinking, I'll be too hard on this nigga. No, man, he tripping, man. You be a little rough with me, bro. I know by your requirements what you willing to do. You gonna keep lying.  But you don't believe that I'm riding faces? I believe you can, too. Hell no. I ain't saying you ain't riding faces. I believe you will pick a bill up. Any nigga ride, any listen, bro. I'm paying Hulu bills all day. You can't convince me of that when you jump off the roof with the I'm riding faces, man. You ain't saying I'm getting a conventional interaction.  I'm riding faces. They let me know. Oh, he paying. He got a little something going on. He'll pick a bill up. Come on, man. I told you I'm definitely gonna do that Hulu.  Yeah, just as simple as that. Yeah. I'm a very likable guy. I believe that. You believe that? You 100%? Yes. Jack. I'm super likable. Hey, man, nigga, I feel like you judging me right now. What do you mean I ain't likable? Because it's what you're doing right now. You saying if I was a girl, I wouldn't go with you. I wouldn't let you ride my face. That's what you're saying right now. I'm listening to what you're saying.   You want us to believe that, too. Not only do you believe that, or you're saying that, you want us to really believe that. Well, y'all don't let me choke. Hey, listen, no, I don't.  That's what you want me to believe. Man, listen, I can do it.  I bet it's a woman watching this right now saying he a lying, dirty motherfucker. OK.   Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. He don't went there, ladies. It's a couple other bitches. He don't went there, ladies. I ate that moon pie, too. He don't went there, ladies and gentlemen. He has arrived. Yeah, you didn't get way too comfortable. You're tripping.   This nigga. Yeah, I get it. All right, listen, that's a different question. Boy, that nigga dangerous with that. You day, you very comfortable with that, boy. I'm super comfortable. Yeah. And that ain't a paid vacay. No, it's not. You want me to believe that's company time. This is company time. That nigga want me to believe that comp. That ain't a paid vacay. That got to be a pay. No. Let me ask you this. That's a different question. I see you comfortable. What you doing right here is you putting some bait out there. You want a woman to know when you see me coming your way. I'm interested in this hill. I understand what you're doing. Let me ask you this. Put it right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see it. I see it, man. But you got to pay. I want to be clear. No, I'm fighting for them.  Hey, have you ever thought to yourself just for one minute that there's women out there that love getting their face rolled? Yeah. But they need a good car.    And I ain't got a good car. That ain't happenin' in 2022, bro. But let's move forward. You be surprised, bro. I will. I'm surprised.  Yeah, just because they like me. Let me ask you this. What's a comfortable number for you to spend on yourself a month? Let's see if your financial trauma lives even within. OK, you talking about my fund budget, right? No, no, no. You're comfortable you livin' that house, with all my bills and everything that's comfortable for you. Probably like low end. Yeah, let's go with a low. 2,100, high end, 2,500, rent it all. Yeah, rent it all. Yeah, you doin' good. Yeah, I live below my means, way below. Yeah, you doin' good. That mean you got it to spend.  That's a signal to the women. You got it to spend, y'all. 2,100. But I ain't gonna spend it. You should have whatever you should want, but not for me. 2,100, that's a low number.  That's dope, though.  Yes, I got, yeah. Tell me the secret. How do you do that? Well, it's just me. I don't have kids. That's one. That makes sense.  It's not crazy. It's not. And I don't wanna sound crazy, but I wanna sound a certain quality in 2022 is attached to a little bit of crazy to a man that's spending 2,100 a month, right? It may feel crazy for her to say, let's go to this spot and the meal, 1,100. That ain't never happened. That's what I'm saying. That ain't never happened. No, okay. Okay. That ain't never happened. If she needs- What type of women are you dealing with? In regards to someone like Sweetie, how many notches up or down would you say someone can fit into that 2,100 dollar?  That's what I'm asking. You saying that you do run into Sweetie-type characters. Yeah, I'm free now and then. And they are out there. Every now and then. They are out there. They're hurting for certain though. They're hurting for certain though. And you got a little fame. It's just hard for me to believe somebody- But that's what makes it easier. That's what makes it easier. What about that, Lowe? What? He said the fame make it easier. That's why he do it for free, cause the fame. Oh no, I don't know. He got a different kind of fame. He out here, he feigning his brother. And once again, I say what's on my mind. You know what I'm saying? So, you know, it just be what it is.  I play the numbers game with it. What's the number? We've been asking you. No, the numbers game is, hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? So you're faking it. Hey, how you doing?  Hey, how you doing? Hey, how you doing? You know, that can't come off as thirsty. You don't think it, you don't think you're- Hey, hey, Spratt, all right. Do you look like- Obey your thirds.  I'm cool with that. If that's what you want to call it, if that's what it look like to you. You cool? So you would just pretty much lock in with whoever say yeah. Nah, that's not true. Obey, that's what it sound like. No, no, no, I lock in- That's what you said. No, you saying availability is your only requirement.   Hey, hey, listen. That's the availability. No, no, no, listen, listen. The shit, the women that I am attracted to. I'm hearing low self esteem. Mmm, let's identify what we hear. Low self esteem.  What you hear, not yourself. You hear high value, man. What you think Kevin Simon you're saying? Don't you say it. What do you hear when you say these things? I'm hearing. I don't believe in myself. Oh yeah? That's what you believe? Yeah. I'm down to earth. What does that mean? Down to earth. See, that said broad.  I don't like it. I'm information based. I'm down to earth. We all down to earth. What does that mean? I like who like me. I like what I like. That's availability play on. Yeah, I take availability. Yes, I'll take availability. Yes.  That ain't cool, bro. I'm trying to tell him, man, I'm trying. Especially with fame, I'm gonna give you. I know what you're doing. I know what you guys are doing. I'm trying to show you a better way. Okay, okay, let me ask you this. What am I doing wrong? And how should I be going about it? You're settling for anything.  What else in your life do you? Maybe I like who. It makes me quit. Maybe you'll settle for one because you too scared to put in effort to have what you really want.  That's all you gotta do.  Hey, listen, listen, I love everything you just said right there, but. That ain't uncomfortable for you. How old are you? I'm 40. That ain't uncomfortable at 40. No, I'm not uncomfortable at all. Uncomfortable with that being the requirements. No, I'm not. Of a 40-year-old man on television with the fame, making the money. Still ain't got no hoes. Involved in everything you involve with, you don't believe that at 40 years. You got many hoes you didn't see me bring through here. What? Now being with hoes that only requiring hoes is a difference, right? Some people in Dole, you saying? Let's see, that's what I'm trying to get you to understand. You talking about, you talking about hoes, right? She was gonna do that because she a hoe. She needed something to do. What I'm saying is, you could have had something of higher quality that you actually would have really wanted. I know that's right. But no, you don't want that. Yeah, that's right. That's why he wins that life, because he has no problem being that.  Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the thing. I wonder how you landed that. Like I'm just saying mentally where you can land right there and just be like, well, I'm there too. It's like, yo, whatever decision I make it is for. You know what the difference is between you guys and I in this particular subject right here. Right. I'm learning a little bit. Y'all over here, y'all over here playing towards the camera. I got people depending on me. I'll be in 100. Listen, I got people right now depending on me. Y'all feel exactly the way I do. You're just not honest with them. Okay. All right. You're gonna just make it. You selfish. That's why you always gonna have yourself. I know that's right.  That's some point of. Hell no. Nah, I'm cool on it. I feel you. You gonna watch them. I am. I'm still tripping out them kids' mama, man. Them kids' mama too, bruh.  That's nigga.  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now that's who might need to be somewhere talking to some damn buddy.   That car can't start. Just because the y'all are not into that. You know, doesn't mean there's something wrong with me. Damn, Jack. Yeah. You gotta do better. I know that's right. Y'all just gotta start being real with these folks, man. Y'all better start lying to these people, man. You start lying to yourself. Why do you identify that as a lie? Help me understand that. I just don't feel like you guys are being genuine right now. I understand why. With the way you're dead. You don't think that we have people that's looking. Oh yeah, that's 100%. That's gonna say he lying. You don't think I got people right now looking that thousands of dollars depend on me every month. That's looking at that camera. Well, bruh, you don't think nobody dependent on me? Maybe this is not your image. Just lying, bruh. You guys, maybe this is not your image. Most of his money. It's a girl somewhere probably in New Jersey, someone to my, well, he on that lying cap because that nigga sent me 60 something thousand dollars that one year. Ooh, I got it right here. Yeah, Jack, you just talking loud because the receipt saying came out here. You're probably the biggest trick in South Georgia.  Cause anybody with that kind of value, you see? Right.  You don't keep giving me a burger, giving me a burger. You fading everybody. You keep, you just told me.  Is your home something where they say, wow, do they feel like they're with somebody? I got a basic condo. All condos is, condos is a vibe. Yeah, yeah, it's a vibe. Yeah, it's cool. Yes. It's cool. I like my place. You said basic. Yeah, I got a basic condo and it's cool for me. I'm not, I'm not the guy that flexes.  I'm not the guy that needs to flex and show you everything, got guide and all that other stuff. You ain't gonna walk in the house and see stacks of money just everywhere and all that. Stacks of money. You know what I'm saying? People do that? Niggas be flexing now. Nah, that's true. Niggas be flexing.   It's all right. Hell, you be surprised.  Oh, he dangerous. Got a gun on the counter. You spend a lot of time thinking about these things. I can feel it. Let me ask you this.  He doing that for you or the woman? He's doing that for the women. He's not doing that for me. So the woman's coming over while you're there? No, I just came by, you know what I'm saying, for some stove top stuffing and I'm leaving. I don't identify what we're saying. Right? You say he do that for the woman. He's flexing for the woman. Yeah. But you see it. Yeah, but I saw it. But you didn't see the woman. She wasn't there when you seemed to set up that was for the woman. Well, I'm not looking for her either. So, you know what I'm not saying?  She might been there when you was there. Okay, okay. Yeah. Okay, okay, I understand that. And I'm not going to listen to this. Let me ask you this. Kanye West got his design stolen from him. Yeah. From Adidas. How you feel about that?  That's what I was going to say. It ain't stealing if you know they took it. Yeah. I don't even think they took it. I don't think they took it either.  Yeah, I think he knows exactly what he's doing. I feel sorry for him. That nigga good and he going to be all right. Right. He good. I think they've identified something in the contract where he signed it over to. Do you think he could build another billion dollar? 100%. He know he can.  Yeah, yeah. He definitely. That's actually going to be the least of his words.  I think he done sparked a war though. I think that he thinks that he just going to spark up some social media stuff. But I think that they going to take this and 20 years down the road still be pulling and tugging at him about that. You know what? That's a multi-billion dollar deal. You got to understand the gravity of that. That's not like a, he just wrecked a multi-billion dollar to get out the whip with them folks. You see what I'm saying? And they, I don't think they play it fair. Like you keep seeing stuff coming out. Oh man, that's not it. Yeah, the thing that I thought he was fixing to do, I thought he was fixing to team up with Trump and run as his vice president and whatnot. And you know, they, Trump disassociating from everybody. Yeah. Elon Musk, oh yeah. He's just, Well then again, from Elon too? Yeah. He said, call me dad or I ain't coming over on Twitter. Right? So he's playing a public, like he understands public, he's trying to separate. He look at everybody as all, you ain't clear about being with me until you make it 100% clear you with me. Like, you might run. I got the, I got to box you out. Elon, I don't know where you staying. You on Twitter now. I just bought this other truth social thing, box you out. Stand on my own over here until I figure out exactly what I'm doing. That's what I think. You know what I'm saying? I mean, she just got interesting. I mean, the things that I thought that was going to be predictable is nowhere near it right now. You know?  Hell no. But I am interested, I'm entertained. By who? Trump. Just by Trump, Kanye, Kyrie. I think he was a Trump supporter. Say it again. That's support, that's, that right there. Say it again? That let me know everything right there. That explains it all.  No, that's not true at all. That's not true.  You don't think black women deserve to get paid the same amount of work. The 100%, I think black women deserve the world. Because you don't want to give it to them. And you want to ride their face and not provide them. I'm disappointed. I ride white women's face. I'm disappointed, man.  You're obsessed. Mexican faces? You're obsessed.    Yes, lord. Loom the goon, man.  Let them know where they can find you at. It's up that podcast. Also, the experience podcast. I got two different shows. The experience podcast. Go check out Lil Baby's interview. Go check out B-Marsha's. Probably out right now. Fred Taylor, Maul from Joe Budden. Just all kinds of names. It's up that podcast. I just did Adam 22. Go check all of that out. Yeah, man. Adam 22, man. Yeah, we just argue. No jumper. We just argued about the culture. So, you know, go check all that stuff out. Hey, and if there's any ladies that want me to ride they facing whatnot, please DM these niggas and show yourself.  Well, there you have it, folks. Hey, this your first time through the trap. Don't let it be the last, man. You know where we at. Hey, the Man I Set Up Show, Loom the Goon.  You get a photo very quick. Okay.


How should viewers go about finding out if IT is a good career for them because I know a lot of young people, you know, maybe somebody who's 18, looking if they want to get a degree or a certification. A lot of the time they don't really know what they like. So I mean, how can you know what to go into when you don't really even know yourself yet? So how would people go about figuring out if IT is good for them? If you're not already like a big computer nerd and you don't have like a necessarily have a real innate passion for technology, IT can still be like a pretty good career for you. So like what I would recommend doing to kind of figure that out is I would watch like, I guess finish watching this video and then maybe search out some other videos like maybe day in the life of a help desk person or if you know somebody who works in IT kind of just interview them and do like your field research to try to get a general sentiment for the field and like see if those people are doing stuff that you might like doing. And if you're still kind of interested in it, I would recommend just getting like a cheap like refurbished computer from Amazon or something and then just work through like CompTIA A plus curriculum. Like there's a lot of free, a lot of free stuff on the internet and just kind of work through it and learn about the basic concepts of technology and like what an OS is and like the RAM and like hard drive and all that and kind of experiment with your computer, the one you bought. Don't ruin your personal computer if you can, but I'll just kind of work through it and work through A plus and if you can get through A plus the curriculum, not necessarily like passing the exam even, but just look around at different people in the field, go through the A plus curriculum and if you still feel pretty good about it, I would recommend at least maybe finish the cert and then just try working in a help desk job or something like this. Yeah. And if you anywhere along the way, if you after you like interview people and you're like, that seems boring, like I wouldn't really recommend like putting more putting more effort into it because it's not really like, it's not really that fulfilling of a job, but it's all right enough to where if you feel okay going through the curriculum, it's worth like giving a try anyway. Hey guys, Shane from the future really quickly, I wanted to say that there are a few resources down in the description. It'll be at the very top that I think are good when it comes to it one of them is going to be a certification that is very common and it's a good way to kind of dip your toe into it and see if it's the right thing for you and it can also help you to get an entry level job or maybe an internship. And then the other one is a website that allows you to quickly test out of different classes at a fraction of the cost at study.com. So definitely check out both of those down in the description below. You know, okay, that's interesting that you bring up that it's not fulfilling because every time I have a technical issue and I call like an IT guy and he's you know, or IT girl and they're able to figure it out for me, I am so thankful to them like and I think that they're geniuses as well. So like there's been times when I've had like audio issues, video issues. I call up my friends or you know, I call up somebody at the company and I am just extremely grateful to them for being able to fix that for me. So I do think it's a job that's relatively meaningful if maybe if you're somebody who just like solving problems for other people, would you would you agree with that or would you disagree? Yeah, I can I can speak to that quite a bit. Actually, I'm glad I'm glad you brought that up because this is very I don't know if I can say it's ironic or not, but the I really my first IT job, the part-time job and help desk that was that's probably be probably my most favorite job in technology I ever had because I got to interface with people and like help them with their problems. And they were like so happy, like you mentioned, and it's really nice because even though that that job like paid pretty low, I could get like instant results. I can just like help people and then like treat them really well when I'm helping them and they're happy and I get like instant results and I feel good and I was like, man, IT is dope. I want to like keep working in IT and like when I got my like kind of the next job, I was still kind of customer facing and it was it was nice because I could I can still kind of help people a little bit. But the kind of human interaction like went down a little bit at that point and it kind of it was OK, but kind of like the more my my salary went up, the more kind of distance from like normal humans I got, I guess. And the problems like the more your salary goes up, the problems that you're solving. This isn't always true, but the problems that you're solving are like not easy problems and it can take a long time to solve. And you don't really get that like gratification from helping end users. So it kind of depends on what you're doing. Like I really like working help desk. I want to work help every day, but I'm like caught in a dilemma between like the salary and like the, you know, how fun the job was. I guess I rambled for a while there, but I hope that kind of made sense. I guess I think that's a great point because it kind of just goes back to kind of figuring yourself out and what you enjoy doing. There might be some people who would really not like help desk and interacting with the public. Yeah. And then there's, you know, it really just depends on your personality. So that's a great point. Yeah, for sure. I forgot about that. I'm glad you I'm glad you brought that up, actually. I'm trying to extract that value. I'm trying to extract that value. OK, so next is going to be the yes or no question section. So if possible, we want to keep it like under a sentence or, you know, one word answers are going to be good here. But yes or no, do grades matter in college when it comes to it? I wouldn't say so. No one's ever asked me about my grades and I don't put my GPA on my resume. Yes or no, was it worth your time to join clubs when you were in college or maybe when you were getting your certifications? I've never joined a club, so I would say it's worth it if you can. But it's definitely not necessary to get a job. How about leadership positions? So if you join a club and you get a leadership position, would that be something that's worth it? It's definitely helpful, definitely worth it. So I would say yes, but don't worry if you can't do that. It's not really required, but yes, I guess. And then internships. How are internships looked out in the IT field? I would say yes, it's worth it. If you can get one, definitely go for it. But you can always substitute it with something else, like creating your own experience or anything like this. And speaking of experience, how about work experience? Does that matter? It does. It's really helpful in getting the interview, like the getting the interview portion, that's really useful. Again, if you don't have any, like you can't get an internship or something, you can always kind of create your own and stick it on your resume. And then I think we already went over this a little bit, but is networking important? Yes, yes, it is. It's the single most powerful thing that you can use to get a job, but you don't need it. It's very good. So yes, but you don't necessarily need to do it. And then how about skills? How important are skills? I would say skill is paramount. So that will help you. There's the getting the interview and then passing the interview. The skills will actually get you a job. So it's very important to develop some kind of basic skills if you're trying to get into IT.  Is it that important to go to like an elite level school? Or, you know, can you go to community college and then just go to a state school?  The school is not important, I would say. You might even be able to go to like something that's not accredited just for IT, like people because people don't really look at it. So it's I wouldn't say the school is that important. They'll probably just be like, oh, actually, it's OK, OK. And then, you know, so it's not it's not that important. And then this this is a tough one. I'm going to have to read this. Sorry, this is probably tough to do. But can you rank from most to least important grades, clubs, leadership positions, internships, work experience, networking skills, projects and the school you go to. That's yeah, that's a tough one. Sorry. No, it's cool. I'll have to read from my list a little bit. I kind of wrote them down in order. So I'll just do my best here. So the most most important is skill, because that's what everything is about. Like you just can't work if you don't have skill and you can't pass your interview if you don't have skill. Next important thing, I kind of grouped into one kind of, I guess group like internships, work experience and projects. I kind of put those all under the umbrella of experience. These things are really important. They help you in both phases, like getting the interview and passing the interview. It's pretty important. I wrote certification in here as that. I don't think you, oh, you didn't give that as an option. Sorry. I wrote certification like after internships, just because it helps you. It'll help you get the interview, especially for your first IT job. It's pretty important. And you wrote networking. I wrote networking after. Networking is like it's really strong, but it's not something that you need to succeed in IT. Like I've never done networking before, so I ranked it pretty low. And I know a lot of people don't like to do networking. I'm really introverted, so I'm not trying to go out just for the sake of like meeting people and like trying to build connections. That's a real thing and I should do that, I guess, but I just don't. So I ranked networking pretty low. And then grades and school is about the same. It's just not really important. I've never talked about my grades to anyone and no one has ever asked me about my school and like an interview setting like, oh, I see you've gone to WGU here. Like tell me about that. That's like never happened to me. So yeah.


So the rare moment I'm not working on a record, podcast, or a marketing plan, I'm often on the phone with some of my friends in the music business. A weird thing happened this past week when I was talking to three different friends who work in either A&R or marketing at Big Indie Labels with top tier artists. They were all complaining about the exact same thing which shockingly doesn't happen very often. But the funny thing was they were all complaining about what they agreed is the most effective marketing tool possibly in the history of music. One would think they'd be thrilled that they have access to what we were all seeing as one of the biggest opportunities to blow up a musician's fan base ever. Yet they were pretty annoyed about it. So this video, I'm going to explain to you what the opportunity in marketing is and why these music business suit types are so annoyed and how you can use it to your advantage. Hi, I'm Jesse Cannon, a music marketing nerd who's teaching musicians how to grow their fan base from zero to 10,000 fans. And this is Muse Formation. So I know what you're thinking. It's not like me to veil all this mystery in a video and not just come out and start barking my thoughts at you. But I think a proper setup sometimes gives a little bit more of a payoff. And despite the fact that I've been really trimming down and hating the gym lately, think of me as Santa Claus and you being the kid wanting to receive their gift. Okay, so let's let the cat out of the bag a little. For the past five to seven years, I don't think you could find anyone who really has their head in the music business who would disagree that getting a good playlist placement is the greatest marketing opportunity to ever exist for artists both big and small to grow a fan base very fast for the amount of money it costs, which really is the price of 30 to 60 minutes of labor usually. And how huge that payoff can be is unequaled. And yes, we could go on and on about how these fans from Playlist are engaged all the time and building a fan base takes more than just Playlist. But let's be real, the artists who do figure out how to engage them and build off the opportunity have never had a marketing opportunity quite as egalitarian and low on cost, where you could put in very little work and get huge opportunities with a small budget. It's by simply having a good song really bubble up to the top. It's unprecedented. It would take a real contrarian to argue this. And I know I'm basically inviting this in the comments. So type away, Virgin. Okay, but I'll be honest. I'm not so thrilled with the direction of a lot of the big playlists are going. Since there's a trajectory I see in the music business over and over again in all the years I've been watching it, is that a new tool comes out that really flattens the playing field between DIY artists and those on the big labels. And in time, it always goes back to the big labels asserting their influence and opportunities and squishing down the DIY and smaller indie artists, and they start to diminish. And sadly, I'm seeing that in Playlists now. Now, many of the Playlists I follow have more DIY artists and small indies than ever. And the editors really do have an egalitarian editorial policy that doesn't seem to be overly influenced by the majors. But many of the Playlists that are bigger, with a really huge audience, seem to be becoming nothing but the boosters of the biggest indies and majors, with little exception. And that's a bummer. Now, I'm not going to say all hope is lost. In fact, if anything, I still see tons of small artists that I work with getting on Playlists that help them build a fan base. But I'd also be lying if I didn't see a trend I don't love of big label power really starting to take up all the oxygen in the room. But as I was just promising a minute or so ago, me and my colleagues in the business are seeing an even bigger marketing opportunity than Playlists that is immune to the big indies and majors taking over that literally every artist on a big label won't shut the f**k up about. It is making my label friends totally miserable. That opportunity is what I'm calling artist page visibility. Here's what I mean. Ever since Spotify started showing the artists on features, remixes, and split releases on the artist they're paired with page, this has become the greatest awareness tool for an artist ever. It is literally a cosine on the greatest real estate in music marketing history. As you can see on the screen now, here's a few examples of an artist being featured on another artist page. Not only can fans hear the artists on the song and enjoy it, they can see who it is and with one click explore if they would like to go deeper with that artist and become a fan. And if you're failing to see why this is possibly the biggest marketing opportunity in the history of music, think of it like this. Whenever you ever had someone in the mood to listen to music and while they're vibing and loving a record, they can look down as they wonder what to listen to next and as they just had a great experience listening to a record and are in the mood for it, they see another artist who is involved with that great experience right there staring at them pretty much begging them to get a click and keep the vibe going.  You think they're an effective use of your money but no Facebook ad catches someone while they are listening to music in the very player and puts a name and suggestion into the mind of a listener like hearing that artist on a song they like and the invitation to explore more is right in front of them. That's unprecedented and it exists on the artist page, the album page, or single page of the song and any playlist that song is added to which makes it explosive since if the song gets added to a big playlist is there giving visibility and breeding familiarity with the artist's name. And so as we all know it takes fans four day times of seeing a name before they explore who it is. This is crucial and for the simple investment of working out a collaboration deal between the artists this is an insane marketing opportunity that now exists for everyone. And here's the other big reason this is so huge it's forever. So much music marketing is so temporary it's like actually depressing these days but for as long as the artist is relevant and getting listens that artist's name on their page and on their collaboration is there. But let's look at what this looks like today. For many artists it's just doing features or collabs you write the song together or sing on it and then it's credited together as long as you do the tagging right in your upload. Obviously remixes getting tagged as an artist is huge and many labels and management now target producers that are similar to their artists to do remixes as this effectively gets their artist on that artist page and remixes were always effective marketing but now are bigger than ever with artist page visibility. This is why you are seeing a huge resurgence of artists doing remix records again. After that trend had slowed down for years it is ramping back up and it is effectively gets a whole new life for a record as people see the artist name pop up on the other artist page and can juice streaming numbers immensely for them as well as monthly listeners. But it's not even just remixes that are trending. One of the things I've seen recently is collab releases where two artists team up for a whole collab release. As I was writing the script I was actually banging one as I happened for weeks. Glaive is an artist I've been on about since before he even had a hundred thousand streams but Eric Doa never did it for me. But after cranking their collab EP record for a week a funny thing happened and I'm now jamming Eric Doa more than I do glaive solo work and I'm all in on him now. But even smaller cosigns are happening more and more. I mean Phoebe Bridgers just signed a group I really enjoy called Muna to her label and sure off they now a collab between the two of them where they can do some audience expansion with one another. But let's also talk about how this works in a more rock orientated world where having someone else sing on your song and doing collabs with other producers is not really the vibe. I think of how effective this was back when I was a wee lad into punk rock records. Bands would constantly release split seven inches or 12 inches. I mean I literally bought hundreds of these where one side would be one artist and the other another artist that they were friends with and this is how I would discover a lot of my favorite groups. Both of their fan bases would buy these as they toured across the country sometimes separately sometimes together and in turn spread the word about both artists and they'd exist in record stores where people would buy it because they see the one artist they like and then discover a new artist. It is definitely argued that some bands who did less promo and touring got popular on the backs of just doing these split releases with artists who were actually out there touring their asses off. But these releases didn't usually involve the artist playing one another song since I know a lot of you are not so into having other artists on your songs and listen I get it. I actually don't really love in rock when some other singer comes into the song out of nowhere it kind of kills the vibe for me like 99% of the time. But doing split releases where you team up to spread awareness with one other dates back all the way to the punk scene of the 80s and this is now an effective marketing method you can now do to effectively trade audiences with like-minded members of your community. But I want to show the dynamics of this some more. I think of the genius of 100 GeX breakout record 1000 GeX. There was a pretty genius move in their tagging since both Laura Less and Dylan Brady of the group make their own solo material and produce songs so they tagged their artist pages individually which set up tons of visibility for both of them as their own artists. Even though when they came on the scene no one had any clue who the two of them were except under the moniker of 100 GeX it gave visibility of their previous work and set them up to spread their future work even bigger as that record has such long legs and is still being talked about so much years later. I then think of like the producer Blood Pop. Well I have no idea how when he first came on the scene convinced Justin Bieber to allow him to be a featured artist as a producer on the song Friends but this crosses over to his profile because he's tagged on it and does big things for him. By the way if this video is giving you value please like subscribe and get notified as this is what we talk about here and you definitely don't want to miss a video.  My friend who's a product manager aka like a marketing person at one of the biggest electronic music labels says she now spends 75% of her time securing and negotiating features and remix and that literally is the majority of her marketing budget is now that since they see that money is spent better than music videos or anything else they've actually shrunk the budgets for outdoor and print ads in favor of features and remixes that's how in on this labels are now. So why are the label employees mad about this you're probably wondering since I brought that up. Well it requires them to do work that has an actionable result. When the artists are saying who can we do collabs with or remixes or split releases it's something the label actually has to deliver on and do for them and we all know well if you've ever been on a label you know that's not always their favorite thing to have to do actionable work. They have to do work in brainstorm and let's be honest this is tough work convincing people to do things they'd rather do other work than having to ask managers and label reps to link and build all day.  Let me yet again point to one of my most important videos in this curriculum on marketing your music it's my video on how you find community this teaches you how to find the similar artists to you to do collabs remixes features or split releases with it's linked on the screen now are the description below is truly must-match material and one of my most important videos and I want to be straight with you on how you do this effectively don't set your sights too big and just approach huge artists that's not actually how this gets done if you find like-minded artists who are working hard this is an investment in both of your future growth and let's be honest fans gravitate towards communities where they feel they can potentially belong and linking and building and doing something with another artist demonstrates that community and can be a great investment in gaining more fans doing collabs in any of these forms can grow your fan base no matter how big the artist is as long as those artists are going to continue to grow since once you do this growth your growth and their growth is tethered to one another and that's exactly what makes this such a huge marketing opportunity okay that's about enough of me going on and on if you have thoughts feelings etc leave it in the comments and please like and subscribe and get notified since this is what we discuss here