All this month, get up to $50 off any Android smartphone from Appalachian Wireless, any Android you desire. All $50 off with two-year agreement, better service, bigger savings, that's today's Appalachian Wireless and East Kentucky Network Company. Today, Patriot Day ceremonies were held at all three campuses of Big Sandy Community and Technical College beginning with a 10 a.m. ceremony in Prestonburg. I mean, what a great combination of honoring the first responders and talking about the meaning of the day, 9-11, and then also the Constitution and its importance and blending all those together into a Patriot Day. First responders from all across Floyd County gathered, along with students and faculty, to remember the tragic events that took place on September 11th, 16 years ago. And everyone there took the time to say thank you to the men and women who run to a disaster when everyone else runs away. We may not see a large-scale event here like that, like what happened in 9-11, but any event that takes lives is large-scale to the first responder, whether you're paid or volunteering, it's irrelevant.  There were seasoned first responders on hand today who were nearing retirement as well as those just getting started, like 17-year-old Mackenzie Wireman, who is the youngest certified swift water technician on the Floyd County Rescue Squad. But no matter their age, they all have one thing in common. All of our first responders, you have to have a heart and heart to see death after death and then just keep going. You really have to love what you do and you really have to have a love for people. A lot of people think, well, they're a fireman, they're trying to do this or trying to do that, but let me tell you, we all have the same mind and we all have the same kind of hearts. Similar ceremonies were held today at the Pikeville campus and at the Mayo campus in Paintsville. In Prestonsburg, I'm Shannon Deskins for EKB News.


We continue today with chapter 9. Grandeur versus grandiosity. Grandeur is of God and only of Him. Therefore it is in you. Whenever you become aware of it, however dimly, you abandon the ego automatically, because in the presence of the grandeur of God, the meaninglessness of the ego becomes perfectly apparent. When this occurs, even though it does not understand it, the ego believes that its, quote, enemy has struck and attempts to offer gifts to induce you to return to its, quote, protection. Self-inflation is of the ego. It is its alternative to the grandeur of God. Which will you choose? Grandiosity is always a cover for despair. It is without hope because it is not real. It is an attempt to counteract your littleness based on the belief that the littleness is real. Without this belief, grandiosity is meaningless and you could not possibly want it. The essence of grandiosity is competitiveness because it always involves attack. It is a delusional attempt to outdo, but not to undo. We said before that the ego vacillates between suspiciousness and viciousness. It remains suspicious as long as you despair of yourself. It shifts to viciousness when you decide not to tolerate self-abasement and seek relief. Then it offers you the illusion of attack as a, quote, solution. The ego does not understand the difference between grandeur and grandiosity because it sees no difference between miracle impulses and ego-alien beliefs of its own. I told you that the ego is aware of threat to its existence but makes no distinctions between these two very different kinds of threat. Its profound sense of vulnerability renders it incapable of judgment except in terms of attack. When the ego experiences threat, its only decision is whether to attack now or to withdraw to attack later. If you accept its offer of grandiosity, it will attack immediately. If you do not, it will wait. The ego is immobilized in the presence of God's grandeur because his grandeur establishes your freedom. Even the faintest hint of your reality literally drives the ego from your mind because you will give up all investment in it. Grandiosity is totally without illusions and because it is real, it is compellingly convincing. Yet the conviction of reality will not remain with you unless you do not allow the ego to attack it. The ego will make every effort to recover and mobilize its energies against your release. It will tell you that you are insane and argue that grandeur cannot be a real part of you because of the littleness in which it believes. Yet your grandeur is not delusional because you did not make it. You made grandiosity and are afraid of it because it is a form of attack. But your grandeur is of God who created it out of his love. From your grandeur you can only bless because your grandeur is your abundance. By blessing you hold it in your mind, protecting it from illusions and keeping yourself in the mind of God. Remember always that you cannot be anywhere except in the mind of God. When you forget this, you will despair and you will attack. The ego depends solely on your willingness to tolerate it. If you are willing to look upon your grandeur, you cannot despair and therefore you cannot want the ego. Your grandeur is God's answer to the ego because it is true. Littleness and grandeur cannot coexist nor is it possible for them to alternate. Littleness and grandiosity can and must alternate since both are untrue and are therefore on the same level. Being the level of shift, it is experienced as shifting and extremes are its essential characteristic. Truth and littleness are denials of each other because grandeur is truth. Truth does not vacillate. It is always true. When grandeur slips away from you, you have replaced it with something you have made. Perhaps it is the belief in littleness. Perhaps it is the belief in grandiosity. Yet it must be insane because it is not true. Your grandeur will never deceive you but your illusions always will. Illusions are deceptions. You cannot triumph but you are exalted and in your exalted state you seek others like you and rejoice with them. It is easy to distinguish grandeur from grandiosity because love is returned and pride is not. Pride will not produce miracles and will therefore deprive you of the true witness as to your reality. Truth is not obscure nor hidden but its obviousness to you lies in the joy you bring to its witnesses who show it to you. They attest to your grandeur but they cannot attest to pride because pride is not shared.   And what can be real that has no witnesses? What good can come of it? And if no good can come of it the Holy Spirit cannot use it. What he cannot transform to the will of God does not exist at all. Grandiosity is delusional because it is used to replace your grandeur. Yet what God has created cannot be replaced. God is incomplete without you because his grandeur is total and you cannot be missing from it. You are altogether irreplaceable in the mind of God. No one else can fill your part in it and while you leave your part of it empty your eternal place merely waits for your return. God through his voice reminds you of it and God himself keeps your extensions safe within it. Yet you do not know them until you return to them. You cannot replace the kingdom and you cannot replace yourself. God who knows your value would not have it so and so it is not so. Your value is in God's mind and therefore not in yours alone. To accept yourself as God created you cannot be arrogance because it is the denial of arrogance.  Yet if truth is indivisible your evaluation of yourself must be God's. You did not establish your value and it needs no defense. Nothing can attack it nor prevail over it. It does not vary. It merely is.  Be afraid of his answer because it comes from God. It is an exalted answer because of its source but the source is true and so is its answer. Listen and do not question what you hear for God does not deceive. He would have you replace the ego's belief in littleness with his own exalted answer to what you are so that you can cease to question it and know it for what it is and from the workbook Lesson 72 Holding grievances is an attack on God's plan for salvation. While we have recognized that the ego's plan for salvation is the opposite of God's we have not yet emphasized that it is an active attack on his plan and a deliberate attempt to destroy it. In the attack God has assigned the attributes which are actually associated with the ego while the ego appears to take on the attributes of God. The ego's fundamental wish is to replace God. In fact, the ego is the physical embodiment of that wish for it is that wish that seems to surround the mind keeping it separate and alone and unable to reach other minds except through the body that was made to imprison it. The limit on communication cannot be the best means to expand communication yet the ego would have you believe that it is. Although the attempt to keep the limitations that a body would impose is obvious here it is perhaps not so apparent that holding grievances is an attack on God's plan for salvation but let us consider the kinds of things you are apt to hold grievances for. Are they not always associated with something a body does? A person says something you do not like. He does something that displeases you. He, quote, betrays his hostile thoughts in his behavior. You are not dealing here with what a person is. On the contrary you are exclusively concerned with what he does in a body. You are doing more than failing to help in freeing him from the body's limitations. You are actively trying to hold him to it by confusing it with him and judging them as one. Herein is God attacked for if his son is only a body, so must he be as well. A creator wholly unlike his creation is inconceivable. If God is a body, what must his plan for salvation be? What could it be but death?  A body's apparent reality makes this view of God quite convincing. In fact, if the body were real it would be difficult indeed to escape this conclusion and every grievance that you hold insists that the body is real. It overlooks entirely what your brother is. It reinforces your belief that he is a body and condemns him for it and it asserts that his salvation must be death projecting this attack onto God and holding him responsible for it. To this carefully prepared arena where angry animals seek for prey and mercy cannot enter the ego comes to save you. God made you a body very well. Let us accept this and be glad. As a body do not let yourself that body offers. Take the little you can get. God gave you nothing. The body is your only savior. It is the death of God and your salvation. This is the universal belief of the world you see. Some hate the body and try to hurt and humiliate it. Others love the body and try to glorify and exalt it. But while the body stands at the center of your concept of yourself you are attacking God's plan for salvation and holding your grievances against him and his creation that you may not hear the voice of truth and welcome it as friend. Your chosen savior takes his place instead. It is your friend. He is your enemy. We will try today to stop these senseless attacks of your salvation. We will try to welcome it instead. Your upside down perception has been ruinous to your peace of mind. You have seen yourself in a body and the truth outside you locked away from your awareness by the body's limitations. Now we are going to try to see this differently. The light of truth is in us where it was placed by God. It is outside us and is not our concern. To be without a body is to be in our natural state. To recognize the light of truth in us is to recognize ourselves as we are. To see our self as separate from the body is to end the attack on God's plan for salvation and to accept it instead. And wherever his plan is accepted it is accomplished already. Our goal in the longer practice periods today is to become aware that God's plan for salvation has already been accomplished in us. To achieve this goal we must replace attack with acceptance. As long as we attack it we cannot understand what God's plan for us is. We are therefore attacking this place. Now we are going to try to lay judgment aside and ask what God's plan for us is. What is salvation father? I do not know. Tell me that I may understand. Then we will wait in quiet for his answer. We have attacked God's plan for salvation without waiting to hear what it is. God at our grievances so loudly that we have not listened to his voice. We have used our grievances to close our eyes and stop our ears. Now we would see and hear and learn what is salvation father? Ask and you will be answered. Seek and you will find. We are no longer asking the ego what salvation is and where to find it. We are asking it of truth. Be certain then that the answer will be true because of whom you ask. Whenever you feel your confidence wane in your hope of success flicker and go out repeat your question and your request remembering that you are asking of the infinite creator of infinity who created you himself. What is salvation father? I do not know. Tell me that I may understand. He will answer. Be determined to hear. One or perhaps two shorter practice periods an hour will be enough for today since they will be somewhat longer than usual. These exercises should begin with this. Holding grievances is an attack on God's plan for salvation. Let me accept it instead. What is salvation father? Then wait a minute or so in silence preferably with your eyes closed and listen for his answer. Holding grievances is an attack on God's plan for salvation. We ask our father in heaven what is salvation? We ask to be shown. We ask to behold salvation in our mind. We began the day with a text and a clear distinction between the grandeur of God versus the grandiosity of the ego. The grandeur of God is truth. The grandiosity is pride. Ego pride the ego puffing itself up trying to overcome a sense of meaninglessness and despair and loneliness. We will not let the ego tempt us with any of its other gifts of the world. We sink deep inside today opening to the glory and the grandeur who we are as God created us. We will not fall into despair the despair of pursuing a self-concept that God did not create. Today we want grandeur to return to our awareness. We have always been grandeur. Today we desire to be aware of our identity of the grandeur of our identity. We lay aside all thoughts of grandiosity competitiveness attack We lay aside all feelings of suspiciousness all feelings of viciousness and sink deep into the peace that passeth the understanding of the world. The ego could never understand the difference between grandeur and grandiosity because the ego cannot understand God or love. The ego perceives grandeur as a threat because the ego is grandiosity. But we open to the experience of grandeur as strength strength in God. From our grandeur we can only bless because our grandeur is our abundance. Littleness and grandiosity are the same even though grandiosity can puff itself up with pride. Grandiosity is little because it falls far short of the grandeur and the magnitude of spirit. Today we open up and our grandiosity is protected by holding grievances believing our brother our sister is a body yet if we perceive our brother and sister as a body we will perceive ourselves as a body God is not a body Christ is not a body God Christ our spirit we cannot limit our perception of ourselves to the body we must open to the happy dream of forgiveness the real world in which we look upon the world completely anew. We were given a beautiful example in the workbook today that holding grievances is an attack on God's plan for salvation holding grievances is an active attack on God's plan for salvation holding grievances is an active attempt to not be aware of forgiveness and then we are told that these attack thoughts these grievances are always associated with something a body does a person says something you do not like he does something that displeases you he betrays his hostile thoughts and his behavior Jesus reminds us you are not dealing here with what the person is on the contrary you are exclusively concerned with what he does in a body you are doing more than feeling to help him freeing him from the body's limitations you are actively trying to hold him to it by confusing it with him and judging them as one so if I perceive my brother my sister as a body I am judging my brother my sister I am confusing the body with my brother my sister herein is God attacked or if his son is only a body so must he be as well a creator wholly unlike his creation is inconceivable this is the basis for forgiveness God is love God is spirit God creates like God Christ is love Christ is spirit the creation is like the creator spirit eternal changeless forever always to perceive anything anyone as a body to perceive one's self as a body is a denial of spirit so today we let go of attachment in the body we accept that every grievance that we hold insist that the body is real every grievance that is held overlooks entirely what our brother and sister truly is because it overlooks the spirit and reinforces the belief that he or she is a body grievances are condemnations so today we are grateful to remember I am spirit I am invulnerable as spirit I cannot attack or be attacked such is the truth we are reminded of this today as we share this lesson holding grievances is an attack on God's plan for salvation Amen


Welcome to Toffy TV, here is the Matreaction, Everton 2, Newcastle United 2, I can't believe, I'm saying those words, what do you say after that? Everton absolutely dominated the game, it was the easiest home game you've had all season, we were so comfortable, it should have been 6, 7, we've hit the post, the Bravkers made some great saves, we've missed absolute sitters, Newcastle didn't do a thing and they've come out with a point which everybody is saying. We were scratching the head about, Carlo Ancelotti went with Delph and Snideland in the middle of the park and it didn't fill me with great confidence on the weight of the game, I must admit but I've got to say the pair of them played really well. Tonight the whole team did generally play well, made up for Moise Keane getting his first goal, I thought he was excellent tonight, it was the best performance in an evident shape, he worked his socks off, scored a good goal, was a threat, put tackles in, made up to see Dominic Alvertley when on the score sheet again, he played really well, Theo Welcott not so much but still worked hard, Bernard was brilliant. When in that first half we come out and we just control again from the start, Newcastle couldn't get near us, better pass selection in the final third would have really took them apart. Look at the ingot in three times round the back and cut the ball back three times to nobody, instead of firing it in front of the strikers to attempt to go out. But we got the goal, Bernard dropping into that central area, great little clip over the top, Moise Keane, first touch wasn't great but got a lot of his feet smashed in under the Brafke for his first ever goal. That energised him, that gave him more things to go at. We'd already had a shot which the keeper made a good save from and there was a Siddabi shot which the keeper of the Brafke made a great save from at 0-0. We were really in the ascendancy, we went in at 1-0 up at the break, not to worry about came out second half, got a control of the game again, Bernard really did take them apart in the second half. We got a great second goal but Bernard should have scored just before we got the second goal, the best bit of football, brilliant move, rolled into Bernard, he drew the Brafke and clipped it over him and it was just too high. But we did get the second goal, look at the lovely ball in Calvertloo and a great finish for 2-0. At that stage he was just thinking let's get three or four here because there was nothing in the game. Steve Bruce brought three defenders on to try to keep the score and I'm yet to mean I should have made a 3-0 with a header, close range, put it wide. Dominic Calvertloo hit the post, we had a couple of shots, made a whole gate to Brafke's save, he saved one from Bernard and then Carlo Ancelotti made some strange substitutions which didn't swing the game in Newcastle's favour.  I would have put Anthony Gordon on and really gone at Newcastle, they were all over the place, they were just happy to have only been 2-0. But then the third and final change was baffling to me, absolutely baffling. Dominic Calvertloo had been warned by the referee twice, he was on a yellow card so I thought he would be the final sub, maybe he left him on for Corners which ironically we didn't get anywhere near anyway. But it should have been Anthony Gordon, someone who could actually control a football and run with it and it wasn't, it was Nias and we had an opportunity while it was still 2-0, we broke, Nias broke, he had him and Calvertloo racing through and he fell over and it was like, you know what we got into injury time, in fact the referee found 4 minutes on somewhere, I don't know where, there was nothing happening in the game but he put 4 minutes on the board and after 93 minutes it was 2-0 so there was a minute to go. Newcastle got a corner which could have been avoided, we gave a stupid corner away, somehow they score from the corner, bad marking and the game put it in and it's 2-1 and then the nerves come in and I'll be honest when it went 2-1 I thought these were equal, I just thought they were equal as because I could see the referee just playing, carrying on. But when we're taking that kick at centre circle, you're 2-1, it must be, the referee must be saying there's 30 seconds left or whatever. Everton had one man on the half-way line and he knocked the ball back to Fabian Delph, Carlo Anciolotti's pointing to the corner flag and Delph it's the worst, the ball just floats up in the air, you know Newcastle win it and then we give a free kick away on the half-way line and it's not convinced there's a free kick anyway, the referee couldn't wait to give it and give them the opportunity to get it in our box. And let's be honest, it was the only way Newcastle would go on a score by a big punt into the box and it's knocked in and we don't clear it, it comes down to, I don't know whether it's Ligienew, it's the first shot actually but it's a shot into the floor and if Don tries to get his head on it, if he leaves it, Pickford catches it and he doesn't get it back into the danger zone, Pickford's jump behind the line and the lad hits it and Pickford catches it but he's a foot over the line and it's a goal. The most ridiculous way to throw two points away and ever to find it, ever to find it will always do this, they've always done it in my lifetime, they will find a way how to snatch either a draw or a defeat from the Georgia victory, it's what we do and it's not good enough, professionalism went out the door and it shouldn't have done, no one got a grip at that in the last couple of minutes when we got sloppy. But Ligienew gave one to Tom Davies under pressure which led to the first goal, instead of smashing it down the line and letting it turn to Newcastle, played Davies into trouble and Newcastle placed the ball and got a corner from it and scored from it. Whereas if he just smashes that down the line again instead, but even with standing that, a 2-1 on the halfway line, you're saying to the referee how long I'm going to be able to shed 30 seconds, it was the 94th minute. So that's two men on the halfway line, taking the kick, one touches it and the other one smashes it right into their corner flag and either put it out for a goal kick or it's a throw in in their corner flag, they take it, knock it up, the referee blows the whistle, you walk off the pitch, disappointed you've allowed a team like that to score a goal when they haven't done anything all night. And now we give it away to get a free kick in the equaliser, we dropped two points, we've been eight tonight right on the tails of the top six, but more importantly I suppose with a bigger gap away from the bottom half and with momentum going and we've blown it, we've absolutely blown it and it's frustrating and it really is, it's a kick in the private without a shadow with that. And I suppose the most disappointing thing for me is we would never do that, we would never go somewhere, get battered like they did and somehow score twice in a minute, it's nonsense because other teams would be more professional, we might get won back and other teams would close it out because they wouldn't be stupid enough to do what Fabian Delph did tonight. And had a really good game to just give the ball away so pathetically the way he did and it's so frustrating and so annoying and the two points are gone, fair play to Newcastle for having to hang in there and taking the opportunity but from our perspective it's a ridiculous result, absolutely ridiculous. This season that has been horrific, we continue to come up with ways that will kick fans in the private each week, new ones all the time and that tonight was pathetic. From playing really well which we did do to not win in the game when it should have been five or six is embarrassing really from our perspective so there's a 10 day break now, thankfully we can just have a break this weekend because it'll take a bit of time to get over this. Waff for the ways the next one that'll be a horrible game because they will bang it long to Troy Deanie and look for bits and we can't cope with basic football which is what it is, we're in trouble. There you go, that's my thoughts, disappointing night at Gouldersham Park, it shouldn't have been, that's the annoying thing it shouldn't have been because we played so well, made up for Moise Keane to score his first goal delighted and like you said delighted Dom scored another one but really really disappointing end to the game. There are things for Carlos to sort out, that's for sure, that is for sure, give the video a thumbs up, subscribe if you haven't, join us on page if you want more videos, check out Peds Matriac and should be interesting and his player ratings, should be a good watch, see you later.


hat they see and then they work to create processes to address them or to help address them. In the resolution you'll note that the Burlington Police Department has seen mental health related incidents double since 2012 and just this year alone for the year ending June 30 have seen 645 incidents that are mental health related. The police commission correctly realized that the problem is much larger and increasingly more serious that can then can be addressed by police response alone. So this resolution is our endorsement of the police commission which is proposing a mental health summit with the goal of developing and funding a system of care and then it would potentially morph into a series of collaboration that would be potentially modeled after the successful ComSTAP program. And as I say it's sponsored by 11 of us. I believe that all 12 of us are certainly all committed to improving the lives of our community members and addressing this critical need and would imagine that we'll have our unanimous support. But with a great thanks to the heavy lifting that was done by the police commission and as well the strong support from the administration. Thanks. Thank you, Councillor Paul. Any discussion? Okay, seeing none, we'll go to a vote. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? That carries unanimously. Brings us to our final item of the evening which is raising, which is now the police oversight 7.09 police oversight and accountability authorities to the police commission to alter the police disciplinary system. Councillor Paul. Thanks very much. So I would move the resolution, wave the reading and then ask for the floor back after a second please. Second. Seconded by Councillor Hightower. You have the floor, Councillor Paul. Thanks very much, Councillor Hightower. So this resolution has been on a fairly long journey. It was first drafted in mid January following the mayoral veto of the community, the charter change of the community control of police. And I think it's important to, for those of us that were there back in December and in January, to just remember that there was really one issue I think that united all of us. We may have been divided on the proposed charter change, but one thing that united us was that the council and the administration agreed that the current charter provisions on police discipline needed to be amended to better address complaints about police misconduct disciplinary decisions and the accountability of police officers. One of the other things that the police commission did recently was they spent a lot of time in did intensive training with the National Association of Civilian Oversight of Law Enforcement, which is easily called NAICOL. They are the nation's leading authority on effective police oversight. And one of the things that they have said in study after study is that oversight can be a win-win for citizens, for police officers and for community leaders. If it's done right, independent oversight offers a safe space for citizens. And studies have shown that truly affected oversight improves police officers' relationship with the community. It assures the public that the process is fair and thorough and improves and studies have shown that it improves officer conduct. Effective oversight is a crucial investment in our community, mostly because it builds trust and confidence. The one of the things, as I said, the police commission has done a fair amount of work with NAICOL in training on oversight and best practices. And they've done a lot in the past year. They've questioned policy, they've questioned disciplinary decisions, they've hired their own legal counsel, and they're continuing to improve transparency as best they can. As we all know, there are limits by charter and union contract as to what we can do to delegate greater oversight authority to the commission. Until such time as we're able to bring forward a charter change, something that we hope to do as per the amendment that's posted on board docs to come. But we also know that charter changes take time. They have to garner voter approval. They then go through a long journey of getting legislative approval, the governor's signature, in order to become part of our charter. And that process can take, as we all know, a couple of years sometimes. And with something of this nature, probably a fair amount of time. In the meantime, we have a commission that is eager and qualified to have us delegate to the greatest extent possible, consistent with legal constraints, greater authority for oversight and accountability of our police. And supporting this resolution is about this delegation. There's seven broad items in the resolution. And what we're asking for is for the city attorney to review those broad items and offer us ordinance language on the items that we can affect change within legal constraints. Just for the record, the Public Safety Committee knew going into this evening that some of the items may or may not be able to be realized at this time. We do know that there are some that can be codified into ordinance. And as I said earlier, last December, we were all in agreement that we needed to transition to a more effective police oversight, which is necessary to rebuild broad community support. This resolution is a step towards that needed oversight. I do want to acknowledge that there was a lot of work that went into this resolution. I think we went through 11 different versions to get to what we have tonight. And there was a tremendous amount of partnership. And I am so grateful to Councillor Stromberg and Hightower who are cosponsoring this resolution with me. As well, I'd also like to acknowledge that Councillor Freeman saw earlier versions of this resolution and offered meaningful insight and suggested edits to it. I'd also like to acknowledge that we have a wonderful staff person that we're working with now, Assistant City Attorney Jared Pellerin, who has been incredibly responsive, helpful, and really great to work with. I hope that the resolution can get our full support. Many this evening, several hours ago, during public forum, spoke to the point that we need a charter change to effectively, to effect real and genuinely significant and comprehensive change. And I think we all know that. We all know that such a change is needed. At this time, I'd like to offer an amendment if you would allow me to do so. Yes, go ahead. So the amendment was posted on board docs this afternoon and it would be added at the end of the resolution at line 106. It would say that be it further resolved that the City Council tasks the Charter Change Committee to hold meetings allowing for community and stakeholder input with the question of moving disciplinary authority from the Chief of Police to a body that is independent from the Burlington Police Department and ask that language to do so be referred back to the council in time to allow the council to place such a Charter Change consideration on the March 22 ballot. If the council so chooses. With that, I'll close my comments and thank you very much for your time. So we have a motion to amend seconded by Councillor Hanson. Councillor Paul has closed the comments. So we're on the motion to amend. Councillor Shannon. Thank you. I have a question which is, does the amendment preclude the possibility that the police commission could become that independent body? Councillor Paul. I think the idea of the Charter Change would be that the body would be independent from the Burlington Police Department. I think it is, I don't believe that most would agree that the Burlington Police Commission is completely independent from the Burlington Police Department. Could it be the same body of people in a different sort of configuration or title? I suppose that's possible. That would have to be decided by the, during testimony and work by the Charter Change Committee. I don't know that I'm really answering your question, but I'm hopeful that maybe that, I guess the answer is it would not probably be the Burlington Police Commission and its current iteration given its Charter, its authority in the Charter. I am concerned in a city of our size and with the department of our size about the layers of oversight. I do appreciate the need for independence in whatever body is going to oversee the police department. I will support this going to committee, but I just kind of want to flag that concern at this point that we've gone through this before and the body that was, you know, there was some good work done, but the end result of that process, in my opinion and in the opinion of others, including the city attorney, was that we created a body that was independent, but it was also biased. And I will, I'm not going to amend anything tonight, but I think along with independence, we have to have an unbiased body that would review police oversight or not one that is at least, there's always some bias, but not one that's intentionally biased. So those are some of the things I'll be looking for when this comes back from committee. And I hope that we can create an independent body of some sort that is scaled to our city, that's scaled to our police department, that's scaled to kind of the number of issues that we have is affordable. And again, I will support this. Thank you. Thank you, Councilor Shannon. Any further discussion on the amendment? Councilor Hanson to be followed by High Tower. Okay. Yeah, I'm supporting this amendment as well. I think this amendment in my mind is really the most important part of the resolution because in order to have real, genuine oversight, we need to make this charter change. We need to take disciplinary decisions outside of the department and it should be an independent body doing that. And I'm tired, so I'll leave it there, but I hope that we can pass this amendment. I think it's critical to developing police oversight. Thank you. Councilor Barlow to be followed by Mayor Remberger. I'm glad Councilor Shannon asked for that clarification because I was under the assumption that a charter change would be to allow the police commission to have additional authority. I do view the police commission as being separate from the department. I also think they understand the business of the department and call me an incrementalist, but I think that these ordinances go part of the way and there may be some benefit that come from them and where they're short, I would think we could strengthen the charter to give the police commission additional authorities to have oversight over disciplinary actions in the department. So it sounds like the intention of this is to stand up a new body, not to invest that authority in the police commission. So I will not be supporting this amendment. Thank you. Any further comments? Councilor Hightower. Yeah, I'll just go. Actually, I'm sorry. Go ahead and be right there. We need a charter change. I have long supported a charter change to add some additional checks and balances and to properly allow the police commission to play the role that they are trying to play now and doing a very effective job in some ways, or at least I think are on a path towards the kind of body that we've long hoped we would have there. So I would welcome work happening at the charter change committee so long as we go in not prejudging what the outcome is going to be and that there be a genuine process that involves the administration as well as the community to sort that out. So if I had understood the language to be starting that process, it was it's imprecise as to what the meaning of moving disciplinary authority, I certainly don't, I would not support something that removed all discipline authority from the chief and I've been very consistent on that for a long time. I didn't read this to say that. So I would support getting into the charter change committee and having a discussion there and I think we can have our interpretations of what it means and have a debate in the committee to get to the right answer. If it is totally clear that what is expected by this is prejudging those questions and assuming we're going to a control board type model then I won't be able to support it. Thank you, Councillor Aitara. Great. Yeah, so I also didn't read it to necessarily determine and to some extent, well one, I guess I wanna start by saying that I think this in one of the versions, some version of this was or talking about the charter change needs was in there and I think I wanna say that for the public. I do support this amendment and the underlying resolution and I think part of the reason any language on charter change I've been taken out is because we were unclear when we started the process, what the parallel charter change processes would look like so I appreciate that we're putting that back in now that there's a little bit more clarity. I definitely think that any, I think it is so important to move ahead with some of the ordinances given both the duration and the uncertainty around charter changes but at the same time, this is I think a necessary change. I think that anyone who has, who saw what the police commission was a year and a half ago would not have called it independent by any stretch of the imagination and I think that now, I don't know if we would fully call it independent but I think the progress that has been made is significant and I think to try to even guess at how independent it would be by the time a charter change would actually pass is going to be difficult and so I definitely support this moving to the charter change committee, not precluding what that body would be. I think the police commission, like I said, has made tremendous changes in being an independent body, a more independent body and I think it might be part of this process to question or see if it could become a fully independent body and whether that makes more sense than having a new committee or having a committee that just works on policy, I think both NACL and CNA have stated that we do not have enough public input in our policy making and so if that becomes a different body that works in a different way or a smaller body or one that involves more of the administration, something along those lines that is less independent but generally supportive of this amendment as well as the underlying and thank folks who worked on it through the many iterations and changing circumstances. Thank you. Any for Councilor Brownlee, go ahead. I'd like to propose an amendment to the amendment not to delay our meeting too much but a very simple amendment to the amendment and I would say it would be in the moving disciplinary authority from the police chief to a body that is independent of the Burlington Police Department that may include the police commission. The words that may include the police commission. After the words from the Burlington Police Department, right now it's from the Burlington Police Department, calm I would say, from the Burlington Police Department. Police commission, I'm not exactly sure, my brain is starting to frizzle a little bit but you understand my intent. Is there a second? Councilor Shannon. Can you repeat the amendment to the amendment please? The amendment to the amendment would be, there's no numbers on this because it's just, I'm reading it in Lori Oberg's email but it's one, two, three of the third line down that starts that is independent from the Burlington Police Department. I want to add and that may include the Burlington Police Commission. Okay, are you clear now, Councilor Freeman? I, yes, I just, there's just so many tabs open on my, but yes, I will find it. Thank you for repeating it. It was hard to hear in the microphone. Okay, Councilor Jang, can you use your mic please? This is a question and that may include the police commission meaning that body could be the police commission. Correct. Then I won't be supporting that. I think what we need to talk about is an independent public body completely different from the police commission. I think that's what I would wanna ask to think about and find an alternative forward because we cannot concentrate power in just one specific department or one specific chief. Check and balances, I think it's what we need as we move forward. I won't support it. Thank you. Thank you. Further comment? Councilor Hanson. Yeah, I mean, I don't know that the amendment to the amendment really changes the underlying as I helped write it and it was meant to be open-ended whether or not it would be the police commission. The point is though that it needs to be independent. The police commission today is definitely not independent of the department. If they become independent then I think they are eligible but if not they don't. So I think it's a debate for a later day. I don't, I'm fine with the amendment I guess. I don't know. I think it's, we're gonna have that debate going forward. Thanks, anyone else? Okay, seeing none, we'll go to vote on the amendment to the amendment. Will the city clerk please call the roll? Councilor Barlow. Yes. Councilor Carpenter. Yes. Councilor Jang. Yes. Councilor Freeman. No. Councilor Hanson. Councilor Hightower. No. Councilor Mason. Yes. Councilor Paul. Yes. Yes. Councilor McGee. No. Councilor Shannon. Councilor Strongberg. No. City Council President Tracy. No. Aye's five, nay's. The amendment to the amendment carries and we are back to the amendment as amended. Any further discussion on that? Okay, seeing none, let's go to a vote on the amendment as amended. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Aye. Aye, any opposed? The amendment carries unanimously and we are back to the underlying resolution. Is there further discussion on the underlying? Okay, seeing none, will the city clerk please call the roll? I'm sorry, I want to, is this on the underlying resolution? Oh, I didn't want to comment. Sorry, I know it's really late, but. Okay, go ahead. I didn't want to comment on this. So I will not be supporting the underlying resolution. I do, you know, I, it's, you know, I, I appreciate how much, I think Councilor Paul and I share like a deep sort of interest in this topic, in this issue. And I really, frankly, I appreciate how much like Councilor Paul has put time into looking at oversight models. It's nice to just share that with someone else on the Council, it's something that I've spent a lot of time looking into. I, however, I just don't feel like this moves the city in the right direction. I think that this essentially becomes, essentially becomes, sorry, the camera is in a funny location and it's distracting me if it's moving around. So I think it, unfortunately, it just becomes this sort of feel good exercise. I mean, when we look at oversight models across the country and really study them, what we're moving towards, other than the charter change that frankly was proposed by myself through the charter change committee last year, essentially only all these other models that we've looked at only recreate models that we've seen across the country repeatedly fail to create any sort of real authority and any sort of real oversight. And I just, I don't understand why we continue to have this exercise of going through the illusion that we're changing the oversight structure. And I know that we're saying that we're moving the needle slightly with this, with a type of resolution like this. But when you look at the fact that even some of the models that were proposed that were not to the sort of level of authority and independence that was proposed on the charter change that got vetoed last year, that those, that was similar to the one that was used in Minneapolis where as we all know and was so publicly part of this huge movement was where George Floyd was killed by police brutality. And I just, I really think it's an effort in sort of like a futility and a mirage that we are changing things when we are not actually fundamentally changing anything. And I think that this issue is serious enough and important enough that we need to continue to really look at the actual policy and the actual material changes that we're making and talk about seriously moving to newer and better models instead of recycling old models that have shown time and time again that they are not working. So I will be voting no, I do appreciate. I know they're not just Councilor Powell but many Councilors care about this issue and have worked hard on it. I know we're gonna continue to discuss it not just probably over the next year but for years to come. So I do appreciate the time that folks spend on it but that is my position. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Councilor McGee. Thank you, President Tracy. I know it's late, so I'll keep it brief for many of the reasons that Councilor Freeman just outlined, I will also be voting against this resolution tonight. I believe that we need to speak strongly and firmly in when we're making these actions. I think we need to do it in a way that gets at the essence of addressing the serious concerns that we've all had around oversight and policing in general. And so I don't think this resolution does that. I think we need to move towards an independent community control model and for that reason I will be voting no on this. Thank you. Thank you, Councilor Hidalgo. Great, just wanted to reiterate that I'll be voting yes on this. I think that if I could depend on this body to try to move forward with the model as it was proposed by Councilor Freeman and activists in the community which I do think is best practice, I would go for that but unfortunately that is not the reality that we're dealing with with charter change processes and I have very little faith in the folks at the state level passing anything close to best practice. So I'm excited to pass this resolution and get moving on the oversight we can. Thank you. Anyone else? Okay, will the city clerk please call the roll. Councilor Barlow. Yes. Councilor Carpenter. Yes. Councilor Jang. Yes. Councilor Freeman. No. Councilor Hanson. Yes. Councilor Hightower. Yes. Councilor Mason. Yes. Councilor Paul. Yes. Councilor McGee. No. Councilor Shannon. Yes. Councilor Strongberg. Yes. City Council President Tracy. Yes. The motion carries. We are now... Motion to adjourn is in order. Moved by Councilor Jang. Blackened by Councilor McGee. Any discussion? All those in favour please say aye. Aye. We are adjourned at 12.53.


What they gonna do with me now? I'm still a talk of the town All these sisters, I'm hooking them down Reaching the smiles and the frowns Game, hop out, then we clownin' You know y'all, it's Lauren K We here at Talk of the Town And who's in the town today?  First one, where you from? Yonkers, New York, the North Side You heard What's a conspiracy theory you believe in?  Huh? You want me to throw some out? Yeah, where? Mandela Effect They got a weather machine New York is sinking New York is sinking? I think that's real I don't think that's a conspiracy The rain puddle's been a little heavy It ain't been snowing either Dinosaurs aren't real The Titanic was fake The moon landing was fake That was fake, we know that was fake Why?  It was political? What was it about?  Just think about it You feel me, no offense You feel me? It's a lot more feminine Men out here now It's a lot more masculine women You don't think that has to do with single mothers Raising men and women?  Scorpia, the best sign there is It's Aquarius season It's not And I know my big three but I It's big Aquarius season right now Alright, I know my big three but that's cool It's big Aquarius season We don't care January 20th to February 18th We do care We don't Amen Aquarius isn't even thought of Who famous is Aquarius? I have a list Thanks for asking Give me two Carisha Don't care Michael Jordan Oprah I said all of the pretty women first Michael Jordan Oprah Michael Okay, Oprah Justin Timberlake We jacking We jacking What, cuz Timberlake said so?  That's all Aquarius Who else? Um, that's enough You told me two and I gave you like five Anyway, next question They not future, they not Drake, they not word I just said Oprah and Michael Jordan Uh huh Okay, they ain't future They ain't Drake I mean I'll give you Drake But like future's good But like I said Michael Jordan Who else? Who else we got? We can have battle of the signs later They don't even matter They don't need it They got me That's all that matters I love that for them What's one thing that can get your black car taken away?   Um, any movies you ain't seen?   Yeah I definitely don't know all those words What's your favorite girl lingo? That's a given Tea Okay, what's one place That's a given tea Oh, what else, what else What else He's giving us multiple answers, y'all Nah, cause what's so funny What else should I be saying That I'd be happy to be a tease For me That's my personal favorite That we say For me Nah, I don't care for that You don't like for me Um What else do we say, y'all?  I don't know It's probably from a new Unreleased joint Like the first line This pandemic over And I still got a lot of it Exclusive Or you think this is broke Yikes, okay And the last one What's a game That's not a video game That you're really good at Musical chairs I love musical chairs We're gonna do one round right now Of RPS I'll take RPS very seriously What is RPS? Alright, fifth position Alright, back One, ready?   Depends on what family What you talking about Are you family oriented? Maybe that's the better question No I'm not a people oriented person More by yourself Got it, got it Okay, so where does music come into play In your childhood? Were you always on music? Was it sports for you at first? Like Now music been the center of my life forever I can imagine That's been Like even without My pops being who he is Just like I just always love music My grandmother Every Saturday, Sunday They playing music in the house Family cookouts Family coming over Music playing Like so for me it's just always with music And have you always wanted to do music Or was it just around And then you grew up And it was like No I wanted to do music But I didn't want to do music I didn't want the extra shit That comes with being music Like the comparisons And all that Like I would have been cool Which is writing for niggas Right, really? Yeah What type of writer would you have tried to do Like you would have tried to do R&B, we go in like Ooh That's a fact I love that for you What's one R&B singer you would write for right now Who do you feel like you would write The best song for I have Jaheem He would Jaheem would be that nigga right now I did not expect that Jaheem would be that nigga right now That thug love That thug R&B That's a fact Period So now you said you always wanted to do music Now I know you ended up in school Like college Which you don't necessarily need a degree to do music So how did you end up in college And let them know where you went I want to see you Greatest HVC to like Word, know the man Period How did you end up in school? It was school Do something else Figure out life a little bit faster Now I wasn't trying to do that Now I didn't want to be home So I was just like I'm out I'm gonna go to school Why don't you choose Clark? It's Clark, duh Why would anybody choose Clark? Clark is the greatest HVC you Every HVC move you see Is that Clark?  Psychology Did you graduate?  I thought I was gonna become a psychologist And a professor and all of that But I ain't take What's that that What's the touch you take after you graduate Or before you graduate? I got a bachelor's Well whatever touch you take to get your master's I didn't take that Okay It was just like Got it Here we go Got it Did you learn any skills in college That you feel like are applicable to The real world and your music career? Find a way to make one Hmm C.A.U. motto C.A.U. Listen He's doing it for y'all Clark He's doing it for you Find a way to make one Now One thing that you do outside Of Music Coffee Talk to us about the coffee Which one you know Everything How did it start Alright Who you in business with Alright What's your role in it What's the name of the company First of all Alright the name of the company Is kiss cafe coffee Love that Three generational My grandfather My father and me You know Those are my business partners Along with our team Over at the compound Set free in his life His wife Liza How'd it start My grandfather always wanted to do something With my father and me And I wasn't trying to sit in the office And since he been doing coffee For like 40 years It was like alright let's do this I did came about after the first verses Though the world was fat Really Yeah So this is like Fairly new Okay Now Your grandfather was in the coffee business Wow 40 years He was making money for coffee For 40 years That is fire I think coffee is one of those Industries where it's like I would have never even thought to like Hey Let's make a coffee A coffee line Is that what you say A coffee brand A coffee brand Yeah I'm like It's a coffee line That's so interesting Okay Now What are some skills that you learned Maybe Participate in that business Well what's your role in that business Actually Like a CEO And what does that entail Everything I had to do all the thinking Make all the calls Calls all the shots Hear all the complaints You know So you're really involved in that And you do music How do you juggle too When I'm stressed I go to sleep You have time for that I've got a fine time to go to sleep Amen I've got a fine time to go to sleep Have you on it Now what are some skills that you learned Being a CEO of The coffee business That you could apply to the music business Or that you do apply to the music business If any I don't know I don't think they actually Correspond the same Like other than like market and stuff Like just finding The group Shouldn't stuff that See who buys into your stuff the most But other than that I don't think it's really anything That you could apply Okay So you're just doing a lot every day Yeah And you can go to the gym Your name must be heavy I don't know how you're sleeping Now I would be remiss to continue this interview Without mentioning who your father is So tell the people then Who is your father The people then The people then Jadakiss That's right Now You are a different person So we're not going to spend too much time on this But what are some Struggles maybe That the outside I wouldn't see To having a Dad that's a celebrity They ain't never around Like for the most part Like the beginning they could really never around So like if you born when they first get on Like they're never going to be around You feel me?  But I think that's understanding Like now The fact that you could even look at that Like that and look at your dad As like a person instead of just your dad Like he was a person with life going on That's really understanding You don't think so? I don't think being okay with it Yeah it's like just like But I don't think being okay with it Is synonymous with understanding it I can understand your point of view And still disagree with it Yeah I just understand why you did what you did I don't know I can't even say that Cause now you see a lot of artists That got kids and all that You'll see them bringing their kids With them to shows and stuff So it's really just a matter of I guess the time period Then just like It's a learning experience Okay Now you mentioned earlier You didn't want to get into the music too much Because of the comparisons How you deal with that? Right now I just told I could say a hig I just told him on a ghillie and wallow joint Like I'm a walk on him When we do a song together So just walk on him You think you're a better rapper than your dad? I think I'm a walk on him Do you think you're a better rapper than your dad? I think I'm a walk on him And if that makes people think That I'm a better rapper Then that's what it is But I think I'm a walk on him Okay, so right now Being that y'all didn't make the song Do you feel like you're a better rapper than your dad? Or do you feel like You can't tell Because you haven't walked on him yet? I feel like Put that beat on Then we gonna see who say what Mmm, that's T Kowy, start it up Making a talk of the town exclusive Nah, I just feel like That's just me Like I just feel like I know what to expect with him Like his approach His demean All of that And you don't think he know that about you? No, I know he don't Really? Right You don't know that Nobody know how I'm ever gonna approach a song You don't think that Him having rapper brain And him knowing his son No So what advantages do you feel like You have over him that he doesn't have over you And like how do you know That he's gonna approach that way I'm gonna approach the record However I see fit I'm not thinking about him I feel like he don't have more going on in his head Like then that's my son I can't leave him I can't let him get the one up I can't do this Like me I'm just be like However I will record the verse with somebody That ain't him Is how I'm gonna record it with him And that's it Period Now what are some aspects of your dad That you see in yourself Now that you're older Like you're like You know If any at all Y'all could be polar opposites Y'all don't give me that I don't know You have to ask somebody around me Like I think we got similar Out of these but I don't know Yeah I don't know Okay Take a look Come back to us Part two Period Now last thing about him You know your dad is Mr. Top 5 Dead or Alive So I gotta ask you Who's your Top 5 Dead or Alive No older J Cole Nas Jadie kiss My last two switches around Okay Like it switches around Like it can fluctuate But right now in it It's Kanye I don't want it to sound too New York I mean that shoot up No it's like Styles It switches My last two switches Like some days it might be Nick Some days it might be Dom Kennedy It might be I don't like doing Top 5s all around Like I don't even I don't even need my shit to be Based on region Or like state Like Cause Or The fact the shoot said Kanye is really interesting to me Because Kanye don't write all his stuff But Kanye has wrote for niggas And it's been proven That Kanye can write for niggas And he's a musical genius And I also don't feel like Kanye ever claimed to be the best rapper He always claimed to be I'm the best at what I do I totally agree But I also think that That's what separates Like just a rapper From an artist No But Kanye loves Like That's a lot of niggas problem A lot of niggas don't be fans of this Shit Some niggas just rap Because they can rap Like Kanye's a fan He's a student Of music Like niggas don't be fans Like Kanye never said Yo I'm the best rapper If he ever proclaimed to be The best rapper He would never let nobody write for him Feel me?  Do you think you're the best rapper?   Different concepts Different tones Different everything for you So But like, as of lately Like We just did the like-out session And what I think of freestyle Moves through the ruckets That I did in there I just freestyle of them Shits coming up With them in the booth In my head If I'm doing a song with somebody I like to do it with them Or I send it back Okay, so now You've Driven You've rolled up Music was blasting Now you're at the studio What is your recording process like?  For my own sessions I like it to be calm Pain I don't really like too much I need some red wine I need the hookah I just realized I can't smoke weed While recording Because then I get lazy You feel me? Self-awareness Yeah, so I don't smoke in the studio no more But if there's a lot of people in it Like I'm doing a smoke with somebody It's a dog fight It's a different It's a different What you call it That kicks in Hmm, interesting So now let's talk about Hardler North That is his project It is out If you haven't streamed it If you haven't streamed it Go stream it Now Right now How is the reception To Hardler North him Yo, it's crazy A lot of people been going back to it Ever since I've been going viral A lot more people been going back And listening to it It's been crazy It has to come up to me Not too long ago in Harlem Like yo You really about to blow up Like it was a girl too Like she like You're one of my favorite artists Can I get a picture? And I was just like Yeah So it been good What's your favorite song On a project It might be We Still Us Does it change? Huh? Does it change? No, not really Okay Why is that your favorite song? Oh, I was in a great space When I wrote that song I was like I'm in a great space now But when I wrote that At that time I was just doing some other shit I didn't know a lot It's so interesting to me To hear artists' favorite songs Of theirs And like why Because it be so different From like the consumer But now I don't really Be having favorite songs Okay Now it would just be like Before I used to hold Doing their records And that's why it'd be My favorite But now it's just like Nah, that's a new shit Now I heard in an interview That it was supposed to be called No Parking Calabasas No Parking Calabasas Why did you change it? The tone and that's the title Okay And Because you made Harder than North The title Why isn't that the title track?   No I make music For everybody else to dance to Your problem No Cause I'll dance Like if it's R&B party Or something I can get on the dance floor And cut a rug Like niggas Niggas not want to smoke with you You feel me But I'm just not Nah You gotta read the room Okay That's what I believe But I go to a party And everybody dancing I'm on the dance floor That's the fact Love that So you're not just standing In the pool When I learned it to me It shit Niggas shit is blown Oh I can teach you Right after this interview Niggas shit is blown For y'all right now We're freezing for y'all right now First interview Period All right Now that was just one thing That you said on a podcast I do know you're very into the Podcasts You love to state your musical Opinions So I want to talk about Some of those musical opinions And some of those podcasts Now the first one I Joe Budden is one of my Besties in my head Love him So one of your Joe You said You feel like Flip's edition To the podcast Is fake or necessary I do And I stand on that Why? I stand on that What has he bought to the Joe Budden podcast? Energy What energy?   You know these niggas is trash I don't know anything What makes somebody trash?