lattices to a special class of lattices called Boolean algebra. Now as we have already seen that a lattice is a partially ordered set written as poset with the property that any two elements in it has a greatest lower bound and the least upper bound. We can rephrase whatever we have said now as suppose L is a lattice with a partial order denoted by the symbol less or equal then for any two elements a b inside L we can define an element called the greatest lower bound of a b in short glb of a b greatest lower bound of a b which we are writing as glb of a b and least upper bound of a b we can as well write it as a set a b that is lub of a b. Now what the definition of a lattice tells us is that in a lattice any two elements will have a greatest lower bound and the least upper bound because of this we can in fact write this glb and lub as binary operations over L we will denote them by symbols like v and wedge. So glb of a b is denoted by a and a wedge then b we will also sometimes denote it just by a dot b and lub that is the least upper bound of a b is denoted by a v v we sometimes will be denoting by a plus b now this a dot b or this a wedge b is called conjunction conjunction or the meet operation and a vb or a plus b is called disjunction or the join operation. Now in this lecture we will be using plus and dot instead of the v and wedge now there are certain properties of this meet and join that we will discuss now one is idempotent or idempotent c property this states that a plus a equal to a and a dot a is equal to a now this does not come as a surprise to us because we know that when we take the plus operation it is essentially the least upper bound of the elements now if we have if my set is single term so I have got a and a so the least upper bound is a itself and similarly for greatest lower bound the next property that we discuss is commutativity if we have two elements a and b inside l then a plus b is equal to b plus a and a dot b equal to b dot a this is also somewhat easy to think of because a plus b is nothing but the least upper bound of the set a b and as we know the elements of a set are not ordered so least upper bound of a b is same as the least upper bound of b a similarly a dot b is the greatest lower bound of the set a b which is same as the greatest lower bound of the set b a so these two the first two properties of this glb and lub operations need no proof as such now we come to another property which is called absorption now this absorption property needs a proof well we are starting with two elements a and b and we see that a dot b is a definitely something which is less or equal a the reason is that a dot b is the greatest lower bound of a and b and of course a will dominate a dot b and therefore if we consider the least upper bound of the set a and a dot b right so if we consider the least upper bound lub this is nothing but a plus a dot b this of course will give me a therefore I get the first absorption rule and then in the next in the next case we note that a plus b is definitely dominating a the reason is that if you consider a plus b it is the least upper bound of a and b therefore a will be less or equal to a plus b but then if we compare a and a plus b then the greatest lower bound of the set a and a plus b is going to be a in other words a dot a plus b is going to be a so these are the first two absorption laws over here and next we move on to associativity which states that a plus b plus c is equal to a plus b plus c and a dot b dot c is equal to a dot b dot c now in a lattice even these rules need a proof I will give the proof of the first associativity law and then leave the other part for exercise now let us look at the rule again we want to show that a plus b plus c equal to a plus b plus c in order to do that we first start by checking a a is definitely less or equal to a plus b and a plus b is definitely less or equal to a plus b plus c well the reason is that a plus b is the least upper bound of a and b therefore it must dominate a and a plus b plus c that I write here is the least upper bound of a plus b and c therefore it must dominate a plus b so by using the transitive law now because we know that after all we are looking at partial order relations using transitivity of the partial order we have a less or equal a plus b plus c now let us look at b and c now let us put this first in a box and then start off with b now b is definitely less or equal a plus b and a plus b is less or equal a plus b plus c therefore we can write again by using transitivity of the partial order involved b less or equal a plus b plus c we again put it in a box the next candidate is c start with c and of course c is less or equal a plus b plus c we put it in a box now we would like to combine these two results if you look at this we will see that in the both two boxes the right hand side is same that is a plus b within bracket plus c and b is less than a plus b plus c c is also less or equal a plus b plus c now we know that we are working in a lattice therefore b and c will have a least upper bound definitely a plus b plus c is an upper bound for the set bc we write it down a plus b plus c is an upper bound for the set bc therefore any least upper bound will be dominated by this upper bound so we know that the existence of the least upper bound of b and c is guaranteed so which we denote by b plus c therefore b plus c will be less or equal a plus b plus c why the reason is that since b plus c is the least upper bound of the set containing bc now we put a bracket over here as well now we see this and this again we see that a plus b plus c dominates a that is a is related to a plus b plus c it is less or equal a plus b plus c whatever we may say remembering that it is a lattice and b plus c is also less or equal a plus b plus c now of course we can we are we can take the least upper bound of a and b plus c which is a plus b plus c and this will be less than a general upper bound any general upper bound and one of them is a plus b plus c thus we see that we have been able to prove that a plus b plus c is related to a plus b plus c or less or equal a plus b plus c as we choose to say in a lattice now what about the other way round now if we look at this last relation we will see that in the bracket in the left hand side we have bc and in the right hand side we have a b and outside we have a and c that is the remaining symbol so this gives an idea what about if we exchange a and c that is exchange a and c where let us call it equation 1 or it is not an equation it is called it the relation 1 in 1 if we do that we will get c plus b plus a is less or equal c plus b plus a rearranging the terms using commutativity and yeah only we need only commutativity we will get a plus b plus c so I am using commutativity here and commutativity here is less or equal again using commutativity a plus b plus c so let us call it 2 so we have got now 2 and we have got 1 we remember that after all we are working in a lattice so therefore it is anti-symmetric so these 2 relations together imply that a plus b plus c is equal to a plus b plus c thus we have proved just now that in a lattice associativity holds for addition and what I leave as exercise is the meet operation or product whatever you say to prove that a dot b dot c equal to a dot b dot c what I can tell you is that it is the almost the same the underlying ideas are more or less same now now we make a statement that we do not prove explicitly but it is more or less clear we are considering finite lattices we state that in a finite lattice in a finite lattice there exists a unique least element and a unique greatest element the question is why the reason is that given any two elements I can find a least element and if I just pick up all the elements and mutually take least element and the least element of the least element ultimately I will arrive at the least so let me reward it given any two elements I get a least upper greatest lower bound so if I if I keep on doing that for all the all the elements and then construct all the greatest lower bounds and then do the same thing for all the greatest lower bounds so ultimately I will arrive at one element which is the least element in the whole lattice the reason is that we do not have infinitely many elements so whichever chain by using whichever chain we go downward we will stop at one element and which is going to work as a least element of the whole lattice and similarly we have the idea of least upper bound so we go on like that and get a greatest element this unique least element is denoted usually by the symbol 0 this unique least element is denoted by the symbol 0 and the greatest element by the symbol 1 and given any element a in the lattice L we have the properties a plus 0 is equal to a and a dot 1 is a dot 0 is 0 and a plus 1 is 1 these are the things which are again more or less straightforward because after all 0 is the greatest element so if I take the least upper bound of a and 0 it is sorry 0 is the least element so if I and so whatever element I take a it is going to dominate 0 therefore if I take the least upper bound it is going to be a and 1 is the greatest element therefore if I take the lower bound of 1 and a for any a it is going to be a similarly the other two cases now we come to the question of distributivity in a lattice now a lattice is called a distributive lattice if for any ABC in that lattice and I must mention here that ABC's need not be distinct we must have a plus b dot c equal to a plus b dot a plus c and a dot b plus c equal to a dot b plus a dot c now the next natural question that comes here is that is any lattice distributive and the answer is no there are lattices which are not distributive I will give examples of two lattices which are not distributive so first one is like this so suppose this is a this is b this is c this is well this is c so this is c this is d and this is e and I connect them and this gives me a has a diagram now let us consider the product b well I am using the other notation so I change my notation let us consider b plus c alright now let us evaluate c dot d the c and d this is a and b plus a gives me b so I can write that b plus c d is b if we consider b plus c and b plus d this will mean b plus c is e and b plus d is e therefore e meet e gives me e we put this in a box comparing these two we see that of course b is not e therefore in this case b plus c d is not equal to b plus c meet b plus d so this lattice is not distributive next we check another lattice which is not distributive which is given by a has a diagram like this we have now five elements we have got a over here then b then d and at the top well let me write e here because I will put c over here now let us see whether we can find out some combinations where which will not be a which will not be distributive so let us start from here d and then let us consider d plus b e now this is d plus this is not e this is c so this is c d plus b c now b c is a so d plus a so this gives me d on the other hand d plus b gives me d and d plus c gives me e and if I take a product d plus b product d plus c well this I see that this does not work out I get again d so it does not work out so we need some other combination let us let us try something else let us let us try the other way so let us consider d dot b plus c which is d meet b plus c is e this gives me d and d meet b plus d meet c d meet b will definitely give me b and d meet c gives me a so this gives me b alright so here we see that for this particular case this does not work out but if we change the plus with dot and dot with plus when we see that we have a situation here where of course b is not equal to d therefore we have d b plus c equal to db plus dc they are not equal thus we see that this lattice as well as the one we discussed previous to this both are non-distributive so these are examples of non-distributive lattices however for our purpose we will be considering only distributive lattices and not only that distributive lattices which has complements so we define another operation on a lattice which has got a greatest element and a least element so I am considering a lattice L with a partial order which is distributive has greatest and least elements denoted by 1 and 0 respectively we are considering this and we define unary operation on it which is called complement for any element a belonging to L the complement of a in L is an element a prime we will be writing this as a prime of the original element such that a plus a prime is equal to 1 and a dot a prime is equal to 0 if a lattice has a if a lattice is such that any element of it has a complement then it is called a complemented lattice we have to note here is that this complementation is not restricted to the distributive lattices we can have complemented lattices which are not distributive in fact a closer analysis will show us that the two nondistributive lattices that we constructed just before are complemented lattices but now we are not considering that we are considering distributive lattices having greatest and least elements and which are complemented which is a complemented lattice as well and these lattices are called Boolean algebras. So I am now in a position to define a Boolean algebra Boolean algebra is a complemented distributive lattice the operations plus dot and complementation defined as above here in all this context we must remember that we are not only looking at a set we have a set but on that set there are operations there are elements and all that and together it is forming an algebra. So suppose I have a set B on the set B we define a partial order suppose with respect to that partial order it becomes a lattice and because it becomes a lattice we have two operations defined on it that is plus and dot which is the least upper bound and greatest lower bound and then suppose the greatest element and least element exist and we can define a complement operation which is a unary operation and suppose it is a complemented lattice with respect to the this complementation and that complemented lattice is a distributive lattice we have discussed the distributive law. So we put all these operations together with the symbols for the greatest element and least element and what we get is called a Boolean algebra and we can denote it by a script B now the question is what is the simplest possible Boolean algebra and we indeed know probably the simplest possible algebraic structure that can ever be and that is a Boolean algebra that contains only two elements here please note that if we have just a set with one element we can have nothing so we have a set with two elements let us called them 0 and 1 call the set B and define plus as this 0 plus 0 is 0 0 plus 1 is 1 1 plus 0 is 1 and 1 plus 1 is 1 and let us define dot in this way 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 is 0 1 0 is 0 and 1 1 is 1 and let us define complement the unary operation in in this way that 0 is changed to 1 and 1 is changed to 0 and what we have is Boolean algebra and this is denoted by you know we can denote it by 0 1 which we are then plus dot this complement 0 1 so this all together give me gives me B now if we want to generate more Boolean algebras the best way is to take Cartesian product of this B so for example we can take B 2 which is the Cartesian product of B and B then we get this set well 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 plus dot complement and the least element is 0 0 greatest element is 1 1 now one can ask a question over here that what what do I mean by this plus and what do I mean by this dot and the complement operation here we note that if we consider just the set let us say B which is essentially 0 0 0 1 1 1 1 0 and 1 1 any two general elements of B can be written as x 1 x 2 and y 1 y 2 both belonging to B then x 1 comma x 2 y 1 comma y 2 belongs to I am sorry I change it this is B square this is B cross B this is B cross B so here it is B square but this x 1 x 2 y 1 y 2 are in B so x 1 x 2 will behave as elements in B therefore we can define the at the plus and dot by using the operations on B that is x 1 x 2 plus y 1 y 2 will be x 1 plus x 2 y 1 plus y 2 no this is this is not correct so I will change it this will be x 1 plus y 1 x 2 plus y 2 now we do not have to worry about this plus this plus is already defined over here and this is the plus that we are defining on B cross B by using the addition that we have already defined similarly we can define x 1 comma x 2 meet y 1 y 2 as x 1 y 1 dot here x 2 dot y 2 and we again remember that this meet or dot or product whatever we say is same as this one and we can check that the operations defined in this way follow the rules of Boolean algebra and for the complement again if we have x 1 x 2 complement we will just define it as x 1 complement x 2 complement thus we see that given our very small and simple Boolean algebra we can take on take Cartesian products of this and generate new Boolean algebras and we will see later on that any finite Boolean algebra is essentially Cartesian products of B with respect to the operations that I have just now described for B2 so for today we shall stop in the next lecture we will continue our discussions on Boolean algebras and functions on Boolean algebras thank you


And welcome to the red man group episode 97 Talk healing from toxic relationships with special guest Richard Granon Let me get that off there. Yeah, perfect So we'll pull him in here mr. Richard Granon and also joining us. He's from Spartan Life Coach on YouTube You can look up by Richard Granon or Spartan Life Coach plumber right up We also have a today of course joining us Steve the Dean Williams the one and only gentlemen. Thanks for joining me Thank you. Thank you Now we've had obviously you guys are Steve, you know regular on the show, you know host of the red man red man mindset all these things Richard Granon has been on the show a couple times before Way back in like 2018 We did a couple episodes on dangerous personalities and women cluster B's borderline stings like that the Hell's Angels so to speak of women and Then I don't he might have come on once later, but they also went on the red man group in Poland We did two episodes live in Warsaw, Poland after the convention at the end of it And that was really great Richard Granon was also speaker for the first time at the 21 convention in 2019 in Florida for Poland And he gave a full presentation there on his his old thing and then he also did a workshop we'll talk about for extended workshop for like three hours on Surviving female psychopaths from surviving the thriving really fascinating topic that many of you might relate to Richard was also supposed to be a speaker in 2018 at the convention and then he had a medical issue at the last minute He had to pull out and he actually ended up funny pull out. Haha. No pun intended But I don't usually He though he gave us a He gave us a speech basically he was in a give-out the convention and a lot of you've seen that on YouTube I'll actually pull it up in a second here You guys this is actually this one really viral so surviving Yeah Well, I'm gonna pull it up here So you guys can actually see this then we'll go to his channel for a second here Yeah So this talk here surviving the female narcissist a deconstruction by Richard Brennan This has been absolutely celebrated in the man's fear and it was his kind of break Breakthrough into the man's for a community and providing some real value some real content that no one had ever seen before at this level And this is the whole speech he gave on it and you guys can see that on our YouTube channel He has clips of Venice channel as well as well And his channel is actually right here Spartan life coach now retitled Richard Brennan He's pushing in on 200,000 subscribers grown rapidly blown up might even surpass 21 studios soon.  Yeah Beyond this little introduction as gave you rich Can you actually tell our audience for those of them that don't know you like what you're about before we get into today's content? Yeah, sure. It's it's probably gonna be relevant to a lot of the guys watching my my background was actually in teaching self-defense and My my original project was called street flight secrets.com and that was like real-world defensive tactics for guys Who could potentially be using it tonight or this weekend? So in after about seven or eight years of developing it we got to the point where it was actually taken on by the air marshals and It was being used by the UK riot Center So it's a big thing we had a lot of guys bodyguards soldiers nightclub bouncers MMA fighters boxes You name it tough guys And I get into it with them and I start talking to them and every single one of them was getting completely Mashed at home by wives girlfriends Sometimes with their kids sometimes with family members because they had this sort of like good soldier mentality where they would sacrifice themselves and In our culture the word is now that's rewarded.  Can you fix it? And I'd be like, oh, okay I guess I'll work out for you meanwhile my girlfriend who was living with me at the time was running rings around me So I'm a I'm a self-protection expert traveling the globe teaching people how to protect themselves psychologically and physically I can't defend myself from a 24 year old Dancer girlfriend can't and she was destroying me in MMA terms. You know the answer, huh? Yes She's in the entertainment business So I felt tremendous shame so I couldn't share that with anybody so I was Internalizing it too and I realized that I had a problem a lot of the guys I was talking to you had a problem So I did a breakaway little like life coaching on Relationship issues for these guys and I was like, what should I call it? I'll give it a super masculine sounding name like the Spartan life coach and it started out like that Spartan life coach Eventually Exploded once I started touching the buttons with the videos on issues like narcissism and Psychopathy then it just blew up the videos that went viral or the ones where people would say talk talk about narcissism I'm like, I don't really know that I believe that that's a thing that exists back in 2012 when it started I was I was I knew about it But I knew about it from a conspiracy theorist's point of view So I'd be like who's the most evil people in the world. They'll be narcissistic psychopaths. I didn't really think of it in terms of relationship Once I opened that door I realized they explained a tremendous amount was going on my own life side to get to the root cause We're looking at childhood trauma. We're looking at absent fathers. We're looking at a smothering attachment style By mothers where they sort of consume their kids and they can't draw boundaries with their kids fathers like a single mom Like we're raising a mom's boy or something like that Well, that which is which is me, you know, that's that's that was my lived experience My father was disappeared.   So I struggled through my 20s and 30s I was clawing my way through trying to grow up and be a man without any kind of guidance without any kind of Well that you know Well, one of the one of the people that I would attach to fictional characters or Famous people and one of my big turning points was Patrice O'Neill was listening to Patrice O'Neill and that Changed my whole mind, but I was discussing this at length with Steven and Paul and Patrice O'Neill was like broad brushstrokes philosophy of How it is but not that much on solutions and then Steve to me is the solution side of that So you have Patrice O'Neill because he's a great stand-up comedian in my opinion the best he's ever lived And he would he had this great perspective. So he goes. Here's the problem beautiful perfect and then you'd be like, what's the solution? Steve's a man for the for the for the actual granular granular solutions for the problems that Patrice laid out But yeah, I mentioned that you two got to remember that the first time you guys met you guys met Like right when you showed up you're in the hotel in Poland. Yes. I was like, oh, no Steven rich get to me It's really fun for me to see when speakers meet and the personalities kind of, you know bump into each other and see what happens Yeah, are they gonna fight are they gonna get along what's going on here? Yeah, everyone gets along great usually so that's cool Yeah, I Just want to say real quick for those listening man. I love this guy. Yeah, I was gonna get some chicken. Don't judge me We sat down and we just I mean we just talked it's like time flew it's like it was like we've known it's like You know when you connect with someone you like feel like you know them for a long time We just sat and we just talked and it was just it was awesome And I I didn't mean to interrupt the thing but yeah, it was awesome man It was awesome Well, we should talk about the convention a little bit because I don't think we ever had rich you were there Like what was your experience of a man as your first time that is meeting me and Steve But your first time seeing the Manusphere event and I think Yeah, I mean, I think I said to you at the time it's And I think you told me this beforehand like you'd said something like you're gonna like it You're gonna really love it, but I can't you said to me. I can't really describe to you What it's like what you're gonna get from it and so for me It was it was an amazing experience hearing the speakers as an audience member. That was great But chatting to guys outside. I learned so much. I mean you talk about like we're joking about Steve So I sat down with Steve for a one-hour session and then he was kind enough extremely generous with his time Gave me another two-hour session. I was just downloading information. I was going.    He's going. Yeah, that's why you can't do it with the dirt and I was like, oh, okay Okay, so there was a lot of that there. There was a lot of just like I'm a sponge because I'm new I'm new to your field. I'm new to this thing. I had a lot of questions And it was it was great to see guys helping guys guys just helping each other out You got young men there who don't know anything you got the older soldiers They've been through a little bit more battle scarred and they're like well I'll just come over here.  So yeah, it was a good. It was a good positive experience. I enjoyed. Yeah, it was awesome Yeah, two men. I think You know you I thought Jack Donovan would be like the biggest speaker there, but you at the end of the day I think stole the show The speakers were fast. The other speakers, you know Steve AJ a lot of more all these guys are fascinated with you and Even other guys that knew you beforehand like a crouser and I was impressed You really you clicked with the audience really well and it's Really glad to hear that because I didn't know how they were gonna take me So I thought at one point I was like maybe I should adapt to what I think these guys want to hear And I'm like no You should just give it to them straight. So if I think they're being weird or lame or incongruent I'm just gonna go well and to the invite me here.  There wasn't this hysterical emotional response There was like a philosophical kind of well, I don't agree with you on some things But okay, you said something interesting there and there wasn't this, you know, we live in times now where there's this panicked You said something I don't agree with You know people go crazy and everybody was just sat there going, okay, that's interesting I don't agree with you on this and this and this but I'll think about it So that impressed me as well. It gave me a lot of hope a lot of hope Yeah, I think with the convention with the speakers and the attendees both I don't talk about this as much but I try to attract everyone that shares values with me You know for and I think that's I think I like my values I think I picked pretty good in life as best I can And you see the you see that express of the convention really highly It's a physical real life expression that lasts, you know, four to five days In Poland, it was a bit smaller, you know, 50 some guys, but it doesn't matter At the end of the day, it's a collection in the quality of men And the attendees matter too If you get a bunch of zombie attendees that are not willing to be active minded And debate and challenge things and think about things even if they disagree with it then it sucks So it's the quality the quality of the speakers matters pretty much on level the quality of the attendees When you had you had some very intellectually curious attendees there, you know guys who are there to learn ego Ego down ego to one side like I'm here What have you got for me? They'd ask good questions.  It wasn't like, oh, how could I get more chicks, bro? Which I didn't know whether it would be that it was like people come up to you and go So how do you you know when you're talking nature? How do you make that congruent with this other thing you said over here over zen meditation? I'm like, don't ask me questions that make me think.    Like, you know, if you're dating coach or something like that But the convention it has to be so panoramic and comprehensive that I I don't feel I can do that And if I do that we'll lose speakers and stuff Yeah, I try to fit all these things in with a zero compromise and that's a challenge to be able to do that But at the end of the day, it's a really good building thing. We have, you know, we got steve here We got crowds with the pickup artists.  So it's amazing to pull it all together. Yeah Yeah, it was it was a very good experience. I really really enjoyed it And last thing on it I think what I think what made you such a star at the event that was kind of a surprise hit is that you were The most outside of the manisphere. You're an outsider Right, you had other than talking to me and like a couple episodes in the red man group You had very little connection with the manisphere Um, almost like molly knew well molly knew is even more manisphere than you were But you're like this outsider figure, but you speak to men and women and you you teach them You know talking about life and everything that you do Yes, yeah, it's uh And I tried to keep that I tried to not sort of change what I do to to match the convention I was like well, here's I'll just stick to what I do know. I do know about Um toxic relationships. I do know about emotional abuse I do know about exploitation and people infringing on each other's boundaries and and the effect of that that I can have And I really tried to hold to a positive message, which is I believe Men and women are better together. I really really do. I think love is a good thing You can have love is a good thing generally you can have brotherly love You can have love at your work and then you have love between men and women and it's a positive thing It's a good thing And saying that out loud shouldn't be controversial, but it's getting that way now.  They don't want women to love men They want this endless animosity and distrust and masculinity and hatred of men It's really disturbing and it ends up going so far as to reach politics and courtrooms and stuff. Absolutely It's nuts, man. Absolutely. And it's it's gone way too far way way too far now Yeah, uh, it looks like this guy was in attendee at the event ping printer I don't know who this is listening to speakers directly contradictory each other But hash it out behind the scenes. It's cool to see this was as well Yeah, I've seen that a lot of throughout the years. It is amazing to see that It's a sign of real respect and a real value of debate and like, you know, hashing things out.  It's what men do Yeah, we have a question or two before I get into mine that I think is pretty good. I'm glad this guy asked it So it's from the audience. Uh, Kaiser Sausage. Haha So I've seen that this is an issue that comes up. I got this, uh, thrown at me a lot, uh When I went through my experience with uh, bpd chick And my fellas there's only two ways to be in a toxic relationship One if you're if you're uh, the toxic person two if you're a container of toxic waste So my opinion what he's saying is that it's and I'm skeptical of this like I get that there's a debate here, but I'm skeptical that, uh, Let's say a healthy person without any serious lingering trauma Is somehow immune to a toxic narcissist Right as if as if toxic narcissist would never target a healthy person Yeah, and I get that if you have trauma This is my understanding of the topic I get that if you have uh trauma and weak points and these things that that gives additional hooks so to speak For cluster b or a narcissist or whatever, but Even if you had a healthy upbringing and all these things and you you're a healthily masculine and all that It's little to make you immune to someone who's a predator. That's my take on it It's uh, it's it's yeah, it's correct. That's correct. I mean the published research bears out exactly what you've said I used to be more of the opinion that really you would need to have pre-existing problems To even begin a relationship uh with with somebody like that, but You only have to look at the proliferation I mean I did uh, I paid somebody to help me with my youtube recently and we were getting into google analytics and all this high level Uh stuff and you're saying look at the difference between the search gravity for covert narcissism versus narcissism So covert narcissism where it's hidden is way more interesting to people way more mystifying to people way more frightening uh to them And so that indicates that you know, a lot of people are getting tricked a lot of people are being deceived The person shows up with one mask with one face That's who you invest in and then the mask slips and you see something else behind the scene So no, I don't I don't think it's true that you need to have pre-existing Issues anybody can get duped by these people because Then they're ninjas, you know, they're trained to deceive throughout their whole lives They're really good at what they do and if you're samurai You're trying to operate by day and you you show your you show your house You show your flags you show your values you go this is who I am And they've abandoned that they've abandoned any sort of moral boundaries. They'll poison your kids They'll stick a needle through your ear while you sleep whatever they'll get to you They have the upper hand in that sense and our only way To sort of defy that strategy is to lose our morality, but that's not an option We can't do that because then they really have one Yeah, there's consequences. Yeah, there's no a no free ride What do you think if you can comment?  Is there something there with that? I think a hundred percent I I would like to be able to put into words the psychological process that you're talking about right now where people sort of do this virtue signaling thing Um, I've seen it a lot in the red pill communities occasionally when pissed off Guys who are red pill come to my youtube comments They they come with this sort of virtue signaling posturing like I'd never let a girl do I'd never let a woman do this You're the and they give you these hard rules these try aphorisms.   It's a try aphorism that reduce it to to two binary positions There is an element of victim blaming to it But there's an element of truth there which is if we refuse to be emotional dustbins for other people's crap Um, it's going to be harder for them to get to us and it will lead us to the decision to leave the toxic relationship much faster Refuse to be a dustbin. Yeah, you know the the thing is is that which I was saying about the guy being All alf and everything I call that shadow boxing. He's just He's just started boxing at home, you know pretending to be something until he gets in front of a woman And and you know, we were we were small with what did gi joe say knowing this half the battle, right? But but the thing is there's a lot of people don't know their name, you know age I know it's not like a uh a broken record But you know worthiness and last name and knowing what you want You know, you you're always gonna find you we always don't get it At least one time in our life or several times depending on how how much you tolerate from a woman A woman is going to do what you allow her to do and if she sees that that you don't have that stand You know, you I'm all alpha. I'm all alpha, you know on on the computer and then you're going well I'm sorry, you know, please forgive me.  Yeah Yeah, this is this is why I love Steve because I say I need words and I haven't got it yet And he'll go there's the words you need shadow boxing. That's perfect So the guy's at home in front of the mirror going.  It's good Yeah, yeah Yeah, miss ponos post up some comments that these guys are fans of your channel They watch what you do this guy was in your emotional literacy literacy course. Oh, that's great. That's great. That's good That's good. I could use some more of that and still learning emotions the color wheel the color wheel The color wheel mate. You got you got to work that color wheel. It's hard though You know, and you're not we're not living in times where you'll be rewarded for that So so having that discipline to do it for yourself is difficult But I do think it makes you more of a man I do think it makes you more masculine because what you're tuning into is what you want and how you feel And if you're going, oh, I don't really like this But I got a role play being a good soldier and you push that down Every time we push down you lose that little bit of ground in terms of your masculinity.  It's nuts It's absolutely nuts.  They are trained.  It's bizarre. It's it's it's really weird dichotomy, but yeah, I get it It happens so much that I would be tempted to say they're not the exceptions to the rule I think they're the rule, you know, the if I see some super alpha dude Who's got all that going on and I don't know he's mma fighting at the weekends and going on in private military Contracts by the week. I'll be thinking he's probably when it comes to women. He's gonna have a lot of difficulties because They seem like if you have that good soldier mindset it's anathema to to this other battle to this other game the strategies are like Almost opposite the way of conduct is almost opposite, you know, everything that you've been taught to do that works over here This kept you alive over here. Yeah, you don't do clear like number one clear communication I'll tell you where I am and what I'm doing at all times at HQ so you can give me air support Switch that to the other battleground and I don't know what Steve would say about People exactly where you are at all times, but it's it's risky especially if you're dealing with toxic personality Well, to me like we're anthony's saying about the the alpha guy that's tough on the outside But goes home that that's always always say that's a what you are versus what I mean what you do versus what you are You know The game always say the game has got to be inside of you It can't be outside of you and that's and what you are I mean we can all portray and we all have Output tendencies like at work in certain things outside the house But because we don't have a sense of self we get home or we get in front of somebody that we quote on quote care about Or have emotional feelings about We we kind of tend to let them slide on certain things which we shouldn't let slide So it's just a what you are versus what you do, man right, right Yeah, we have a question here. I still want to get into some of my own But the audience keeps popping these up will will it says richard at all Do you feel that even covert vulnerable narcs are unaware of what they are doing? Is it 80 20 that most of them know what they're doing and the rest are just programmed? I feel some don't It's a it's a really difficult one It's a good question. I get I get asked this kind of question at least at least once a month It's a really good one. I'm going to try and remember what Sam vagnan Taught me about this which is So first of all with covert and vulnerable narcissists You've got to remember that what makes them different to the classic grandiose narcissists This is according to the american psychiatric association, which is probably the I personally prefer that text to any of the other ones What makes them that way is shame So they have their grandiose fantasies. They have their entitlements, but they feel extremely ashamed of those fantasies They go through cycles So they're not consistent the grandiose narcissist is usually having a pretty good time because they're consistently living this Hyper idealized version of themselves the covert vulnerable narcissist is feeling high and they're like a junkie They're high and they're low. They're high and they're low So that's where you'll see this double triple quadruple personality shine through depending on where they are on the on the cycle The more emotionally cycling you are the more your perceptions get twisted So if we can reduce this to some simplicity, it's a good question. Well, um, Is let's say they lie or they gaslight. Do they know that they're doing it? Well, the more emotionally dysregulated they are the less internal boundaries they are and there's less self awareness So they might not it's called Sam vagnan taught me this word a cap confabulation So they'll say something that they can tell you one truth in the morning and another truth in the afternoon that are totally Oppositional, but it's not that they're constantly going ha ha. This is a lie What they're doing is they're so deep in this other emotional flashback Shitstorm of negative emotion year that they're actually accessing a different part of their brain in certain sense. I'm not Saying they're bereft of responsibility. They're not but it's not as straightforward as we would usually want to talk about it The boundaries blur. It sounds like yeah, it sounds like for them It's all kind of blended together in their head and I believe I believe that from what I've experienced too It really sometimes they're aware of it and sometimes they're not it's all just one It's like this movie. It just keeps playing and playing and playing on re or endlessly or something It's and it's it's still a field of study in its infancy, you know I I think there's a lot of scope over the next 10 years in in in the proper psychological research to actually look at Where the boundaries crossover with full-scale schizophrenia? Because if you're very very confused in your story and in your lies and in your emotions plus if you add addictions to drugs and alcohol You're basically slipping over into full-blown psychosis where you can't distinguish between reality And and truth anymore and a lot of people have been in abusive relationships report that to me They said don't think my partner by the end the more desperate they get to hold on to the relationship As the as the other person wakes up they red pill on the narcissistic abuse and move away The more desperate they are the more bullshit. They're gonna spew That's exactly what I felt when exiting my relationship with the infamous medusa, right and philosophically I interpreted looking back on it I'm I'm impressed with myself But I hit the nail on the head with what you're talking about and this is just not from a perspective of psychology But philosophy and I was like this woman this, you know, medusa is trying to destroy my sense of reality Of what is true and what is false and I was looking at it from a point of epistemology a theory of knowledge I'm like, she's actually trying to worm her way in my head and distort that And being an objectivist. This is like a huge no no I mean objectivism is extremely hardcore for reality and reason So it was it was fascinating to see that and it's actually wake up to that And the more I did that the more she would scramble and pull and push and all these things and she was basically What do they call it an exit? Exit flash.  I forget the term but it has the word exit in it. But when you're exiting a relationship, yeah, it's oh extinction burst Okay, yeah when the relationship is bit in the cluster b, uh, you know, some of these forms and stuff they have this extinction burst Okay, I've never heard that before is it is it like from astrolite astronomy or something when a star just bursts It reminds me of dinosaur like a dinosaur the dinosaurs right But uh, I really think it's when a relationship is dying And let's say, you know, if you're the guy and it's a chick, you know, that's a narcissist It's it's that last scramble that last desperate attempt to claw you back in and it gets really extreme Yes And that's where you know, I'm glad you highlighted that because I've been saying in the last six months more so since the convention Uh, I've been doubling down on this that actually philosophy will give us more of a foothold to escape These negative relationships and psychology will psychology keeps you on the hamster wheel You know, because in psychology, we're not allowed to say well morally you're wrong because no morals really you can't really hand out moral absolute It's all about how do you feel? Yeah, yeah, yeah, interesting cool, man Let me uh, get into some own questions here before we get more from the audience Cool. So talk to me about cptsd, uh, which is stands for complex post-traumatic stress disorder Would you sometimes call cptsr complex post-traumatic stress response? Yeah, what is that why is important to you and how is it different from ptsd that everyone else knows about?  Take some drugs and talk about it and hope that it goes away in 10 years time when you're fucking 15 grand Out of pocket from just talking and talking Cptsd as a different model says no look 95 percent mental health issues are rooted in trauma and in defensive Primal responses to trauma and that if we can deal with those primal responses We can heal the ptsd and we can heal the complex ptsd the difference Is a primal a primal response be the 4f's fight. That's the four and freeze Yeah, so you're either flighting Freezing fawning or you're fighting. So you're an animal. We're all animals.    There's there's much more With men. There's a much more greater despondent preponderance towards fragility And towards fawning. I think men are now where we're up to culturally. We're trained to form Why because a lot of us were raised without strong father figures. So what else can you do but beg for mercy? That would be like the soy boy new male phenomena where they have that Picture they are the ultimate foreign responders. I mean that's a foreign response on mass, you know our our ultimate ultimate ultimate ultimate sort of end Of the of the genetic imperative is going to be to procreate So you go, well, can I fight you new uh new woman? No, I can't can I can I run from you? No, that's not going to work. That's that's the mig town movement. Can I you know, what what do I do? I freeze so you go to form. That's what these guys are That's a good example there, right? These are well, I this is these are I mean, it could be funny But this is actually a phenomena that we've we've talked about in the man's sphere. There's even a celebrity this soy face We call it and it's I mean some of these are really exaggerated, but really it's this From a body language perspective.  I'm a good boy. That's that's how I smile at my nephew who's uh, who's three years old When I do the baby voice because obviously you don't I don't walk up to my nephew and go, hey, how are you doing kid? But hey, how are you? That's the smile I do my eyes are wide and he just goes. Oh, this is cool It's a it's a it's a fawning.   That's just disgusting It's but these but these guys these guys are liars because they're just they're just on their last ditch effort of what else can I How do I solve the puzzle and they're like children because with childhood abuse? We end up stuck in this mode of going. How do I solve the puzzle of love? How do I solve the puzzle of attachment? Daddy didn't love me. Mommy didn't love me. What do I cycle through in my primary responses to win the love? So here we have some good little boys trying to win mommy's love and attention And uh, this will get them a little pat on the bottom. I guess Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's a fake nice guy thing.   So CPTSD Let me ask you this question too. Is CPTSD currently accepted by mainstream psychology? Is it still Kind of on the fringe because a minor standing PTSD was rejected rejected for a long time too It was initially dismissed as a as a as a legitimate condition, but now it's accepted. Yeah It's it's very controversial and um, you know as a diagnosis Um, I would say that let me let me say the nice thing first There are thousands hundreds of thousands of individual psychotherapists counselors therapists and coaches who totally accept it and work within that model God bless him the term was originally coined by Judith Herman So I think is now the the head professor of psychology at Harvard Um, and then was developed and propagated and popularized by Pete Walker And the difference between CPTSD and PTSD to in brief in PTSD when you go into a flashback You remember what you saw what you heard and what you felt So if you came under sniper fire and you were in a truck And it was a diesel truck then every time you smell the diesel of the truck you'd be like boom You'll hear the breaking glass You'll hear voices screaming over the radio. You'll feel the terror the helplessness the rage the shame whatever you felt At that time and that could happen a major moment that has very sharp pain is what you're saying That is an intense Singular traumatic experience But don't get though I don't want any of the viewers to get hooked on singular because it could be a series of singular incidents That you can remember with a memory that is visual like a video that plays in your mind CPTSD is multiple small incidents That you will not remember visually. You won't remember it as a video in your mind You'll only remember the feeling you'll have an emotional flashback This is extremely problematic because when you sit down with the therapist You can't tell them what the root incident was because you don't know and there's multiple root incidents.  All people with PTSD have CPTSD or people It's interesting to me from a cultural and media perspective is that PTSD is a lot easier and simpler to portray in movies and tv 100 it's you know, whether it's uh, you know It was uh, you someone was raped or there was a war, you know your combat somebody got blown up or something They can portray that in a movie really easily.  Ah He's having a flashback, which actually is a term from psychedelics. It's a it's a the flashback would be the original flashback would be like portrayed by The character Matthew McConaughey's character in true detective Well, when he was in situations of stress because he'd taken so much lsd He'd start to trip and that actually made him very very vulnerable.  So that's that was the there's a drug It's a drug term that moved over in psychology, which was one of the reasons.  Therefore. There's no money in it Therefore, there's not much funding for it for now for now They do look at I know MDMA for example was used for PTSD treatment before it was outlawed in the united states Right, and they had they had really good responses with it in actual clinical therapy settings, too And now they're trying to bring that back But it's like super difficult obviously because it's a class four or whatever the fuck drug So it's like no one can touch it even mushrooms. I think so psychosilobin They there's been research on that that these things can help But I've I've actually, you know talking to you over the years that I have I do believe like you call it physical support Yeah, so these these could be something, you know, they're experimenting in a lab or whatever setting with, you know MDMA or something But it doesn't have to be that extreme. There's also supplements and things like that that can help chocolate marijuana Even saffron the that herb that is like the red herb These things actually have antidepressant effects that have been studied pretty well And they're not perfect, but my issue with them is I'm realizing is that they're not The core issue in your life if CPTSD or PTSD is an issue trauma The core issue is never a lack of dark chocolate. It's never a lack of saffron supplement in your diet So these things can help and I think it's good, but it's like they're not It's never gonna fix the problem like you have to fix the problem And that's one of the things that I've really learned from you is that you have to heal yourself And I think this is like a big mission or a big idea that you promote like you have to self heal And no one can fix you you have to think in the manager is the same way I'm trying to get people to the point where they can be the coach inside their own heads or the parent inside their own heads A lot of people with CPTSD had bad or to completely absent parents A lot of people with CPTSD have been through Really really bad situations Excuse me where the superego that part of the mind because hijacked I'm gonna cough my guts out.  Just move on let it go Like what would what is your basic response to that kind of attitude? I haven't had many men Look me in the eyes and say that to my face. In fact, I've never had a guy look me in the eyes and say that to my face because um There's a lot of things that people would try and do online in terms of the virtue signaling the posturing trying to convince people of who they are, but when you look into my Uh my eyes and you see a human being in front of you spent 10 years going around the world bouncing in night clubs Taking steroids massive amounts of cocaine and psychedelics Drinking himself to death nearly getting imprisoned.    They're not trying to do an impression of a wwe wrestler that they've seen on the tv They'll go.  It's guaranteed Look at the explosive rise of jordan peterson who is basically really just trying to offer people Practical philosophical and psychological solutions the fact that life is frightening and painful anybody claiming that it isn't Is is either they're either like a 21 year old who's a trusty farion They've got had everything laid out for them.  They've never been anywhere.  What is this? What did you go? What does this one mean? What is this one? Who did you lose?   Oh, that's a real man. He's an alpha.  That's a man Okay, let's let's me and him throw us both in prison and let's see what happens.  That's a boy It reminds me I agree and it reminds me of uh, Paul Joseph Watson if you know him a big youtuber He was on twitter recently and I forget the exact tweet.   I just rest my titties on him The next question I have is you you coach and you teach both men and women on your channel Yeah, I've been that for a long time So how have you seen and what do you believe the differences are for men and women? And how they uh acquire trauma and how they handle it and how they respond to it and how they heal from it Because in my understanding, this is a general manuscript principle Uh men are more responsive to healing from trauma than women are And maybe that's not true, but this is kind of the general thing that women respond Less positively to trauma and they have a harder time healing from it. Some men even say that, you know, women can't heal I don't think that's true but I I do believe that it's as a Feminine creature that they're the female half of the human race that Trauma tends to masculine as in harden This is my understanding for trauma in general and for men this can make them more masculine if they heal from it But for women, it's like you've got to undo it and let it go So is there any any truth to that or anything you've seen with your experiences?  I mean, I uh It's such a good question, mate. Um There's a few points that I had not thought before Is there actually research that indicates that women don't respond to trauma as well as men? Is there actually published research on that or? Probably we could look at like someone like Sean Smith would actually be really good at being able to find that Yeah, he he would he would be able to let us know there's definitely a difference There's definitely A difference for me as a coach in the ease of the coaching process. It's easier for me with men than it is with women I mean the man's fear we in the man's fear the general idea And I would agree with it is would be that women are not even conducive to Self-intercepting in the first place not that they can't but they're not prone to it Like you're kind of I think hitting at to self-intercept and realize that they have trauma and then heal from it And even suggesting that women need to heal in public right now is looked down upon Like uh, women are strong and independent and you know, you don't need no man And I mean to me all this a lot of feminist crap is a negative response to trauma that these women have been through That daddy don't love them or daddy was a pussy and didn't teach them how to be a woman or whatever And now they're another another getting banged out on tinder left and right All there all all toxic ideologies.  Everything's shit That's that's that's a that's a wounded soul and in the same way yet I'd say any toxic ideology that's been adopted is there as a shield and as a mask But this issue of women not having the propensity to to self reflect and to heal from trauma Certainly I've found it more challenging. Um, I've had eight years at this So I am but it's taken me eight years to get to a point where I'm like, okay I think I know what to do So maybe even the way because I have a majority female clients Maybe even my Root to healing might be more suited to women now and I have a process and I'll just say look Well, I use the language. I'll say you have to reduce your emotional flashbacks. That's from the cptsd model. What is that? That's me saying we've got to bring you out of your emotional subjective response to what's going on and back to clear thinking about What is really happening? I need you to be present with me If we're going to do a coaching session and you're going to start projecting your ex-boyfriend or your ex-husband on To me and then you can start ranting. That's something to help to reduce the emotional flashbacks Then we develop that emotional literacy so that you have that responsibility and introspection to say How am I really feeling rather than just abandoning how you feel and projecting outward? And then I go into like philosophy developing a moral philosophy So maybe unconsciously I've done that as a solution to the problem that's presented itself to me But yeah, there is a difference. There's definitely difference whether women don't handle trauma as well I don't as a blanket statement. I don't know because I've seen the flip side of that coin where Stuff that has brought a man to his knees. Some girls have just gritted their teeth and got through it Interesting what you said about trauma creating a masculinizing effect That could be animus possession where she's like, well, if nobody's if there's no men here To help me Then I'll guess I'll have to fucking pick up that old shield and that old sword and do it my fucking self So and to get some context it would be like, uh, you know a hardening of the heart So to speak a girl is that a heart broken a couple times it gets harder and harder and harder And this can happen to men too, but I feel like that for men that That can that can be excessive and that can be unhealthy But at least it creates an element of mystery and things for women to claw and try to understand And in reverse, I don't think men men are not prone to doing this or they shouldn't be And it can be leads to white knight syndrome and things like that trying to fix broken women And I don't know of any pathway where that's even remotely healthy for men to do with women Sean Smith, you know talked about that in his book the tattoo about the women And others have as well it is it is interesting though like I this I think these are obviously things I thought about too And I'm still I have not come to my full conclusions But the minister it's a topic too Could we do like, um, could we do a session with Sean on as well and maybe this one issue that you've raised? I don't want to say too much because I need to think I need I need to actually process what what you're saying because there's a lot to unpack there If Sean was here, he'd be able to help us with the with the published research on it and that which would be useful Yeah, and for me it does yeah, I'll go ahead and up and But it does not surprise me also that you've had different experiences at men and women I mean for me in in the man's sphere I don't believe this firmly that we say men and women are different And biologically they're certainly different and we've had a different evolutionary history of choices and the ancestors before us Yeah, so I'd be surprised if they Uh, but some people will say that these feminist psychologists and shit that men and women are just identical and We're all just human bro and blah blah blah. It's like it's funny because it's different well a lot and a lot of the the the Feminist leaning psychologists though They also are usually big fans of young And young was like an essentialist. He said no, you're Fundamentally different. That's where the concept of animus and anima possession comes from is We are fundamentally different in the way in which we view the world and the way in which we process things Um Yeah, I would I'd need to I need to have a think about that But I think I think there's a lot there. I think there's a lot there to unpack and you know This whole thing of the yin the yang the polarities and coming together in the middle and having that balance There's there are this is a hundred percent true in in multiple areas of life There's many things that men can and should learn from women That strengthen you as a man and there's many things that women can and should learn from men that will strengthen you as a woman Which is why we need each other Which is why we need to sort of learn we need to come together and learn from each other You'll be a better man If you can access your yin if you can access your yin state You're just a fuller human being You're a better woman if you can access your yang state as well. So yeah, it's uh, it's interesting. It's it's an interesting question Yeah, and bringing you speaking on that issue. I would see that feminism is fundamentally Like you mentioned like it's toxic You know movement from trauma But I would see it as fundamentally dividing the genders and then putting them at war with each other in this endless Like combat Yes, and uh, you see that in negative I would call it negative gender relations And to me that's what we see in america non-stop and that was hard to really understand even being aware of feminism Until I went to poland and I saw poland and in my opinion they just had very positive gender relations compared to america Men and women get along women act like women and men act like men Even it was it was odd just seeing couples like be so uh happy to get together and friendly and yet Very feminine very masculine just like just a little stuff you'd see that you don't see in america anymore at least in Orlando, which is a major, you know pretty major big american city You just don't see it and if you do see couples, you know, you see couples obviously, but it's not It doesn't feel as healthy like looking at them like you can feel like this this like weird Like both of them have fucked up beliefs in america and they might be in a relationship But it's like not functional and it's not healthy and there's not it's missing a polarity to it And yeah, I and poland they have that Yeah, I I 100 agree and because I think because we all of us here we have traveled we're open to experiencing new cultures and new languages and we can sit and observe because we're all We're all psychologists. We're all philosophers. We all like to think and use our brains and go. Oh, what why are they doing that over there? Okay, you know, we all think about it, right and people who haven't left the bubble of america or the bubble of uk They'll probably just be like no, that's that's not true, but it's a hundred percent true Not everybody's doing it the way that we are I am full conspiracy theorist on this one. I think there's been A long and I'm not the first person to say this.  We still see that in eastern europe. You see it in the Czech Republic. It's great The individualism the consumerism it's all about taxing people It's all about taking as much money as you can if two people are looking at each other Then they're not looking at the tv if they're looking at each other and loving each other than they're feeling good As a salesman as a marketer I know that we have to have people if you agitate people and you frighten them you're going to make a lot more money That's just the way the game works. Yeah, that's so I think it's a lot of people do they push pain buttons Absolutely pain pain pain. It's a nasty way of doing marketing.  How should we do this? Should we propagandize men and women and they said, yeah, well, let's propagandize them and then somebody said, you know You don't need to propagandize men and women.  They didn't need to propagandize us They got inside of their heads. They got to them before we could stop it.  That's that's pure.  There's this grand scale effort to subjugate women in the west It's not a paranoid delusions of grandeur 100 that's what it is because it's simply not true. It's it was they're conflating Protection with exploitation. Yes. There was abuse. There's always going to be abuse my god 10% of our population are narcissistic psychopaths But that don't blame men Blame narcissistic psychopaths in the same way I'd say to the you know in in in this community If you just blame everybody for the actions of a few narcissistic psychopaths who are behaving in a demonic way Then we'll just go. Oh, well, that's that what's the evidence? All women have a problem. All men have a problem. Let's split. Let's all go our own way great great What's the end result of that going to be populations going to decline? All of the more intelligent people the more active people the more Entrepreneurial people they're going to bow out. They're going to be like, oh, well, there's a problem here and I don't you know, so It's uh, it's not going to lead to a good place.  This was a trick.  It's not impact It it was never there to emancipate you. It was never there to strengthen you It was there to enslave you to more consumerism and less joy. That's it. That's all it was They want you miserable combative Disagreeable and greedy and may I say I think that largely they've won at this point Yeah, I would agree. It's sad man. I'm actually pulling up an article right now that'll um kind of put this to or is it perfect So pull us up on the screen. So just for those of you watching, uh, you know He mentioned that you know feminism has duped women into you know consumerism and less happiness and less joy than ever And this is true Women today are this is like demonstratively prudently true and like major a huge study is that looked into this This is the guardian. This is like mainstream stuff You know gains and women's rights haven't made women happier. Why is that? That's a really clever or nice way of saying that women today are more miserable and they've been in over 40 years 50 years Since the 1970s. Yeah, they self report I mean, this is this is them when they're asked by by thousands that they study that they're less happy now than they've And they've you know been measuring it for decades.     Hello But yeah, they've dressed it up. They've done it. They've done a really good job propagandizing it This this ideology it it spills out. Doesn't it? I mean, it's not it's it's a way of looking at the world it's rooted in victimhood And there is no such thing. There's never been a genocide in human history that wasn't rooted in a victimhood narrative there's never been grand scale crimes without a victimhood narrative first And it's poisonous. We've got to be really careful about it. You know, I've I've told you from the start anthony because I wanted you to know I'm a left leaning guy, but I am not What's the difference? The difference is a classical liberal.  I think goes hand in glove They go together. They're like we want what you have. Okay, so are you ready to start working the way the people who no just break it Smash it up and give us bits of it. It's like that's That's not how the world works. That's not going to make the world a better place So when I've started talking about this on my channel is saying feminism is a toxic ideology to a predominantly female audience they get really upset, but I'm trying to say no, it's It's not that I want you suppressed or enslaved or any of the of these of these things I want you free, but this isn't freedom. You're in you're in the matrix Yeah What do you say in response to this comment? They're unique 79 Uh, he's paraphrasing kind of what something steve says as steve constantly says There are women who are hostile towards you. Why do you care?  I don't like people being rude to me for no reason whatsoever. So that's a reason why I care I mean my my thought on this too like I don't even know if he's quoting steve right on this but The problem I see in america is you know, you what steve does say, you know Just pick a picker.  You're gonna have in your life Dating is different dating is different to day to day. I I gave up Trying to win over hostile women when I was 33. I remember the night I remember the moment where I was like, I'm never gonna do this again. So that's that's like nine years ago for me Well, my concern with that though is that the population is drifting and this is why feminism has to be abolished But you know feminism keeps infecting more and men and women both But just from this perspective more and more and more women It's like you can't You know, that's not good.  I think that are fine But it's like that population is dwindling and the competition for that is getting harsher and harsher and harsher Well, most of those women would be married if they are that Yeah No, and you can feel that did you meet, you know, some of these married chicks that are in like happy marriages or happy relationships And you can immediately I get the sense like this chick is not fucked up. I'm not surprised. She's in a relationship Yeah, she's not part of this toxic, uh, you know wheelhouse of insanity of feminism Yeah Oh, I can I can point to the women in my social circle four or five different people who are not They're not and they are and have been For about seven or eight years, you know happily in marriages and they've got kids and Wow, that sounds like they have internalized patriarchy or something internalized misogyny I don't want to say that that again like a country like poland or romania or spanish places that are more traditional They've had basically they're not as infected with feminism like in poland alone There's like thousands and thousands and thousands of women just walking around that are attractive None of them are fat. They're beautiful a lot of them. I mean, it's amazing the kind of quality woman They have walking around and they don't hate men Uh, just just as a default and that that was it's so it's endlessly fascinating to me because it's so different from america Just walking around.     We've always followed in america's footsteps and we're really sick Sick physically sick like I look at like the young people I was living in beef the last year from my country bretz. You can see a mile away Ibiza's in spain B. A. S. Spain. It's it's like a party island off spain.  They've got nice pecs They got the beautiful tattoos gorgeous. They are There's not a man amongst them Not a man, but they're beautiful and with them they're there with these Women girls who are loud aggressive hostile. They're like Speak to you and they go they laugh.  What is that?  I know but at that animal level The male lion Once have sex with a lioness He doesn't you know that you've taken all of the polarity out of it and there's no lost there between these kids anymore Richard they don't want to get your opinion if you don't mind on the make woman great again phenomenon So here is your independent newspaper in the uk. I think it's a pretty big paper in the uk Yeah, um, and they put out the nastiest hit piece on us Like there's been a lot of Controversy and outrage from the the concept of make woman great again going viral Yeah, for anyone who's still not aware that it reached like almost 100 million people So far in 2020 it's nuts So in my in my opinion with make woman great again what we're seeing is like this I mean these people call us the serbly misogynistic sexist, blah, blah, blah, blah, all this bullshit Um, and I actually got to challenge one of the reporters when I went with uh pears morgan and that thing You did really well with pears morgan. It was an impressive display. You did very well Thanks, man I still need to do a responsive video to it where I can kind of hash out like what was actually going on And that way there'll be a version on youtube people can watch too because right now there's not But with make woman great again in my my opinion As a completely amateur psychologist, uh, you know with zero education in it other than youtube education from richard granan And others like sean smith and stuff Make woman great again.  It didn't cause it, but it's triggered it I mean the outrage we're getting from these women.  Yeah, but some of it's very genuine too And so just kind of what what your thoughts are with regards to make women great again feminism and then the outrage outrage trauma will call it is generated which has been Fucking enormous Okay, so I would I would say, uh, it's it's a very very interesting Thing that you've done if we look at this as like an exercise in philosophy and psychology as a thought experiment This is really interesting. Let's look at what hansin's actually said. Let's look at what you've done Now let's turn on his head The group of women get together and they run a seminar called make men great again. It's run by women as it's to train Men in how to be better men and give women what they want Would all those same people are screaming at you who apparently are for equality? Would they scream just as loud if the uh, if the sex was different the biological sex of the organizers and the participants was different Would those same women be screaming just as loud? Because if they wouldn't be then they're intellectually dishonest because they're not for equality They're not for equality. They keep saying we're for equality and equal rights. Okay, so we turn this on its head Why do you go silent? Why are you so angry?  You'd just say well, these people are just crazy.  I'm gonna be killed. I just go. Oh, that's cute. That's all right I'm just gonna continue my conversation So the the what I will say is I my feeling is it's not my feeling.  We have a huge Dripping double standards. There's this elephant in the room. It's in cinema now. It's in books It's in culture. It's in the workplace. It's everywhere And it's a huge double standard if this was an event organized by women for men those same women Not only would they not attack it.   They're trying to replace james bond Your british devil, you know secret agent That hurts me like that. That hurts my soul. Not james. Leave james alone, right?  Everything's fine. Everything's fine That's yeah, it's like a dripping you this dripping double standard. That's what it's like It's a reliant weird insane shit. Yeah. Yeah, men and you know, yeah, generally They already did give way on james bond a little bit if you watch the movies and the progression I was so Daniel craig came in because he's he's from where i'm from He's from a town of the road from me daniel craig and I was like, ah, it's one of the boys That seemed to do well And he had he was much colder as james bond. He was crueler. He's more of a psycho.  They went through this horror together and they're like And you're just saying okay, and so people will be like hey, you're the psychology guy You should like that and i'm like no wait. This isn't counseling.  He's muted now He doesn't actually finish the movie.  What are you doing to my film stop? There's no sense So usually they want and james bond when they want to destroy a series There's like an escalation and I think that's what you're referring to So I agree with you on that james bond has been in the daniel craig era Has been neutered and you know coddled and all this like feminized crap But the end goal I think culturally was to replace him with a woman And that's right that seems to be where they're finally drawing a line, but just barely He was I guess he was such a masculine character with so much history as a man That the feminists failed at that attempt to take over james bond. Thank god Yeah, I mean they had but they still they were still affected by neutering him and demasculinizing him and all this weird crap And making him less competent by the way and not the last one but the one before I can't remember the name I I really hate them now. I absolutely hate them. They made him a drunk He couldn't shoot straight anymore. He couldn't run anymore. He was depressed and I'm like Okay Do you remember the dave chappelle conspiracy theory? They want to put black men in dresses I think there's a broad-scale conspiracy theory that's all men put all men in a dress Uh, if they're strong break them if they used to be strong Make them look stupid make them look weak. It's just it's a It's a general move towards demasculinization that we're a hundred percent saying a hundred percent So, yeah, they already same thing in reverse the defeminization of women It's all this and I was talking yesterday on a show and I was bringing up the uh iron ran novice and philosopher would talk about the philosophy of zero the philosophy of zero And she would say this is what collectivists did and socialists and communists and should I didn't see that with feminists. They want to zero everything out. They want zero masculinity They want zero femininity. They want zero polarity. It's zero. It's the philosophy of death is what I'm right called it Zero like death is you're dead. You're dead. No existence. Yeah, zero zero zero zero and like james bond Zero masculinity. Yeah to the point that they wanted to kill him off as a man make them a woman Yeah, it's it's it's I think there's a strong argument say that this is evidence of cultural Marxism There's actually a it's it's a communist ideal. It's nothing can ever be vertical make it all horizontal And I just think that's a disgusting idea bearing in mind. I'm I'm left.  I wanted to throw at you for that. Oh, yeah It just what you're talking about reminds me of the saying that you that little you just kind of riff this off It's fantastic though your interview with george bruno You uh, we ended up titling at that too and you said love is the enemy of the agenda Yes, and I really and it actually reminds me of feminism feminism Is this my my favorite punching bag?    Yes, and it's a conspiracy. I mean, I know I have to be careful because I put people off when I start talking about broad scale conspiracies So like, okay, there's a little bit wack job now, but look, uh, george orwell wrote 1984 in 1948 Everybody knows 1984 the book you've all seen the film. I'm sure if you haven't you should read the book and watch the movie A lot of there's a lot of quotes that get pulled out of that book in that movie There's a quote that's very rarely pulled out Which is when o brian the main evil guy in the story is torturing winston the protagonist What winston's crime that gets him locked up and tortured.  What did he do? He committed the crime of seeing a girl that he found attractive talking to her They spoke to each other and they experienced lost and then they left and had sex That was their crime.  He said all people will have is government All they will look to is governmental governmental control And to have big brother big daddy big mommy take over and isn't that what these feminists want? Isn't it what all the socialists want? They're perverts. They're masochists.  They never want to fix it themselves.  They want somebody to fix it for them And what does that involve?  Don't let them speak They never want to fight themselves.  They want somebody else to fix it for them I started to sweat there.   I've I've I've realized actually no this is This is real. This is this is a this is a real problem. This is a real problem You know, not only am I left leaning I studied post modernism I studied feminism at university and I would just say this What we're talking about when we're talking about feminism Like you can look at certain tracks of academic feminism. This has nothing to do with that These people are not academics. They're not intellectuals. They're not interested in truth They're not interested in analyzing the nuance of the meaning of it. They just want their own way. They're barbarians Yeah, good way to put it Yeah, you bring it to mind the years ago You started talking to me that you were surprised at how hard, you know aggressive I was in hardcore by these concepts and I believe that strongly Yeah, even for years before that before I even got more oppositional to feminism who started in 2017 actually I got more bold and more open about that I looked for years of guys like steve the dean here and our other coaches for men Just in terms of dating or relationship advice and making them more masculine making men better men I see that I see that I saw that then I see that now is saving the west is saving america Yeah, if we don't have feminine women and masculine men, we're all fucked Like the america does not have a future with feminine weak men these pussies And he's masculine, you know tatted up harpy women that are screaming about the patriarchy That hasn't existed for 80 to 100 years It's like where does this lead?    It has the remnants. I've broke up But that's it, man I don't want my country to die. I don't want a candidate to blow up. I don't want the uk to fall apart Yeah, I want these countries to do well and to do that you need You need a lot of things and one of them is make them and great again But you also need the coaches like steve and these guys in you talking to men directly and making them more masculine Whether that's men young men old men fathers like all these things There is there is an interesting part of that. Um, I wonder what you think of this I've been I asked a couple of times like how people have said to me How do I be more masculine? And I've sort of approached it not from anything that you need to add on But maybe just to reduce the editing and I think I've nicked that from patrice o'neill because he would say What we as men I didn't really understand it the first time I heard it. I do now We we we edit ourselves So just don't do that. Just don't turn the body. There's nothing really you need to add You're you're a man.   Oh, how do I lion? I'm like, well, just do you and you should be okay It's the editing. It's the propaganda that really needs to be Exorcised from from the mind, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I group this largely. I do think that men need to help other men and lead To be men I mean in essence, this is father a father, you know, teaching his young boy to be to become a man But that's been eradicated in culture So I think the mana sphere is a really positive development. It's the it's people say it's the same thing as feminism But for men and it's not no feminism is a very negative thing for women and men The mana sphere is a very positive thing for men and now women too And I think that's another reason they hate it so much and they're learning to hate it They feel threatened by it because it's a real threat to feminism I think that's actually what make them a great again did is it put the mana sphere on the map now For being a legitimate cultural threat to the feminist establishment Whereas before it didn't you know men's rights guys and the migtail and all these things like It was never enough to get on the radar is like a real threat.  This is real I think that's why these these whether it's susanna reed and piers morgan or the the chicks on that show The real or the viewer or whatever Like they're freaking out because they see this and they're like, holy shit.  You want to be happy, right? If a girl wants that one-on-one like this fun, you know No, in general. No, of course not. I won't I believe very strongly in personal freedom and individual rights and the declaration of independence Right. I want a positive healthy masculine rational future for all western nations. I think it's a very good thing I even say masculine but to me masculinity is very inclusive I'm just like a father who loves his wife and his daughters is a is a is a an amazing strong man It's like steve here steve has like who knows how many daughters like half a dozen or something But I really mean that and we don't need to get the whole features masculine thing necessarily But yeah, it's a very positive thing and I want the best for men and women And I think pollin is a is a specific good example of that now. It's not perfect But it's pretty good But yeah, men and women get along men are masculine They like you mentioned they're tapping into their biology to their physical nature And then expressing that in behavior and And psychology and women too women need to embrace. I said last night. I was like I just actually got back from hanging out this check I was just tweeting and I'm like men should it's strive to be Not just as masculine as they can be but as masculine as they can be over a lifetime Self-improvement forever and women should do the same thing You should generally not not literally every woman on the planet But the vast majority of them should strive to be the best woman that can be They should be as feminine as they can and then pursue that over a lifetime endless improvement There's always room to improve and yeah, so totally. It's a great.  It's exactly so to you It's like it's part of your it's part of the The American Americanism that you hold would be you want an independent american goal You want women to be independent free strong and able to just get on with whatever they want to do, right? Uh I'm It's tricky because I know I know you mean well when you say these things my concern with the strength and independence is like Oh, I might be using I might be using a feminist feminist language I mean as a psychologist So if you're independent, then you have your personal sovereignty You don't have the emotional dysregulation You don't have the trauma and if you're strong you have personal agency That means that you can live authentically. Yes, whatever you want. I know that i'm on board with that everything you just said 100 These buzzwords they get hijacked. That's what they do man. They prefer the meaning of language Like for example, let me put it to your audience and anyone who sees this later if you're a woman watching this I think female legitimate genuine female strength for example is pursuing femininity Being feminine and it can even mean having the courage to be submissive for a man that you love and that you respect Uh submission is scary for women.   I went back to Malaysia, which is a majority Muslim country And there's an old training partner of mine from like 10 years ago We've been we've been training partners in the gym and she told me uh on the day before I left She's 29 And she was saying, you know, I want I want to tell you something I'm really embarrassed about and I said I said what she said don't laugh at me I don't want she said I don't I don't what my mom and mom teaches feminism.  It's that in a majority Muslim country now like Malaysia That is the new sin. It's not a sin now to not have kids and stay at home and be a good wife It's a sin to not go out run your own business Uh make loads of money. Do you know she and she doesn't feel like she just has to go out and work She feels that it's a pressure to go out and be rich And she's like, I don't know how I'm going to get the time to do that and raise three kids And I was like, I can tell you straight off the bat.   We don't get to have it all we have to choose It's advertising man. It's tv.  It's propaganda, but we definitely don't get to have it all Hey, can you guys see me right now? Yes, sir. Okay.   I'll keep going see if I could fix it Um, so yeah, anyway, rich that really hits the nail on the head for what I was getting at That like you mentioned this chick that wants a what would be considered a traditional life or whatever, right? She wants to have children. She wants to have a family. She wants to pursue that I call that motherhood first like America first. I'll make that's motherhood first Yeah, and that's actually that's actually very rational. I think that's actually biologically sound to do that Bear in mind. She's only ever told me She's only ever told a non-muslim foreigner to the country and it's this big secret.  She's like, I'm a feminist I don't bully anybody.  Yeah, you have poisoned them and propagandized them So I actually think let me put this to to to point the the case in pointer The strong women today that are genuinely strong have the strength to stand against that this feminist bullshit And pursue what they really want deeper in their heart Which in many in most cases or many cases or whatever they want to have children They want to settle down.   I agree. I does take strength to to stand out against against propaganda And so not go with the whole tribe the whole group the whole tribe the whole group is going over there and you're going Nah, I'm not doing that.  They love men and women today in america and can and canada in the uk They don't love men. They're taught to hate men and distrust men and distrust masculinity, which is That to me means they're psychologically weak. They were not strong enough to withstand For whatever reason lack of upbringing or their own personal choices or whatever They lack the strength to stand against that crap I've been you know, men are responsible for this too, right?  That's not yeah, so all that strength and that's why you mentioned that i'm like, well Yeah, that is a good aspect of independence. Let's just clear up what we mean Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, no, I believe firmly though and you know, I mean for everyone psychological strength But you know what that looks like and it's it's a hijacked word. They're a lying crap They hijacked it and then slanted slanted it basically Uh, so let me get into this so Uh, we do you know, you know, whether it's me or steve or we have a bunch of other guys come on the show Donovan all these guys, you know a lot of red men group is personal advice for guys How to be a man how to be a better man how to be more masculine how to be red pillow wear So What are the benefits for the guys who watch the show regularly where we usually focus on these kind of advice topics? What are the benefits of healing from childhood trauma or even relationship trauma? They had a bpd check a gax girlfriend or two or whatever What are the benefits of healing for trauma from that trauma for men? Like why should they do that rather than just you know, go study red pill or read this book or do that Like what are the benefits to them for their life? I think if you Um say if you have unresolved trauma, you're carrying a lot of cbt st And then you just throw yourself into pua or uh mig tau or red pill It's going to be really really difficult To live authentically these things might become like a um a fetish that you use to To protect yourself with to keep reality at bay with when you've resolved these issues Uh, well, I mean I've got recent experience of it. I know Anthony you have like your whole perception cleans up When your emotions that your your emotional flashbacks are reduced you see things clearly You can connect with other human beings clearly You're not as weird and eccentric in your interactions.  All of that stopped So you're definitely far stronger Um, you're more you you're more authentically you if you're Healed from these emotional flashbacks in these childhood traumas Yeah Well on that note from healing, uh, what kind of course do you have coming out richard grandin? That deals with these things such as female psychopaths from surviving to thriving Of course coming soon. Of course is coming soon. Um, yeah, well everything is shot. All the material is is there It's uh, it's it's just waiting for me to get it set up Um, and it will be available from female psychopaths.com And what we'll be showing you how to do is how to recover Uh, specifically from these kinds of childhood trauma to how to emotionally re-regulate yourself how to be masculine in a way that isn't weird or posturing or trying to fake this, you know Weird way of being in the world and hopefully it'll just make guys feel more comfortable with themselves and It comes from the perspective that we've been talking about here, which is that we believe in People coming together. We believe in love. We believe in people connecting and attaching safely And uh, men and women being together so yeah, we'll be releasing that Hopefully in the next couple of weeks, but it will be available from female psychopath.com Fuck yeah Yeah, and so to full disclosure too, we actually filmed this for richard in poland The main bulk of the workshop. I think if you have a few additional videos, you're adding on to it Yes, and things like that. Yeah. Yeah, there's there's things that I just wanted to To flesh out what was covered in the poland workshop. So So the guys have some real concrete stuff that they can walk away with and apply Um And it's it's it's from my perspective.  I think the man is fear has never seen a course Or idea like that hashed out at that extent And the name is obviously a playoff of something I did years ago, you know surviving a female psychopath or how to survive But there's a difference between surviving and thriving. Yes, it's female psychopaths, uh, you know from surviving to thriving Yeah, that's a big that's a big thing And I think a lot of guys come to the man is fear.  Yeah This is this is a this is a fundamentally masculine solution if you look at the yin yang spectrum Thriving is at the yang end of the spectrum a lot of the guys, especially some of the attendees that I saw in poland They are traumatized and they're kind of hidden.   I love having on the show man. It's been great. I think you've been written and welcome on anytime. Thank you, sir It's been a real pleasure Yep Well, we'll start winding up guys If you want to reach out to learn about where richard granon you can go to female psychopath.com and you'll see the course there pretty soon And also his website is linked in the description of this video or not his website is youtube channel That's uh blown up. Go subscribe. Help them subscribe. Share the channel. He's gonna hit 200k real soon Uh guys closing remarks steve rich anything you guys want to close out before we uh wrap up today's show I appreciate both your time today guys 100% uh just that um To make sure that the what people walk away from with this is you know, because we're talking about some heavy stuff here is Set the intent inside of your head of what you want like Do you want love in your life? Do you want to thrive? Do you want to be a healthy happy human being who's living a full life?  I want to be happy I want to be experiencing love and connections with other people.  Uh, hey like I just I he didn't pay me for this but I can't speak highly enough about that man Richard.   He's He's laid back cool Chill put it inside the pillow. So guys. He's a real motherfucker. Excuse me. He's real. I like to do man Thank you, Steve. Anthony picks him right Anthony The best the best any positions him for you guys to listen to Soak up the information man. This was this was awesome, man. Very great job I can care with steve's steve's steve's assessment.  So a hundred percent And now Richard Richard has been uh, I mean all the speakers have been influential influential in my life From steve to, you know, socrates and literally on and on down the line You know, there's there's a hundred and something guys at this point Richard Grandin has in particular been a very a very big help personally to me Healing for my own trauma in my life not just the medusa crap, but even long before that And that's been it's been huge. It's been uh life changing for me. I mean, I say that literally and sincerely Not just like changed my life changed the world like really changed how I think about the world and view Myself as a man to view masculinity understand trauma relationships all this stuff And it's fascinating.  It's badass. I love it It's uh, it's loving my life and these guys are a huge part of that and making that happen making that blow Thank you, sir Yeah, all right guys, we're gonna wrap up tune in next week 11 a.m Uh, that'll be episode 98 of the red man group and make sure you tune in every monday for steve's show at 8 p.m Uh, the red pill mindset And we might even bring back the red line at some point on friday nights So peace out guys appreciate you tuning in and uh, tuning a lap to the show Hit the like button and the share button to help the show and drop a comment anything helps YouTube likes the activity to make it go viral and stuff peace