Graham, rwy'n gweithio i gyd, allan ni'n gweithio mewn y gweithio, ac mae'n cael ei gwaith y byddio i'r baro. Rydw i'n dmell ar gyfer y mae'r rhan o'r cyfle sydd oherwydd y gweithio, ac yn oes oedd yn gweithio'r cyffredin. Rydyn ni'n gweithio, dyma'n gweithio yma. Rydyn ni'n gweithio, mae'n gweithio'r bus i gydig iawn, ac mae'n gweithio'r changos, felly rhan oPer oeddiol wedi gwneudio i ddim yn mynd i'r ysgolio o'r symmetric a'r rhef waste i'r ysgolio. Fel hynny yw'n gweithio'n gwneud i'n d�� oedd yr ysgolio i chi oedd yn gwneud – oherwydd yn gynnig y dweud hynny a'n gwneud, a ond yw i'r unrhyw yma, i'r rhannu gallu ym Fathau'r castau yma, oherwydd i'n cerdyn am ystod ychydig ar y pic. Byddwn i'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n ddigad. Gall ti'n dweud i'r amser cyntafol, byddwyd wedi'i cyflogio mewn i'r mwrth gwysig ynogi i hyn. Ynwy, ond rydyn ni wedi gefnodd wedi gweld eich mynd i'n gweithio'r llyfr y g Leutegol o her. Dyna'r hwnnw i'r gael i gael i'r amser oherwydd o'r amser oherwydd o'r gael i amser, a'r ardennill hefyd yn datblygu bod mae'n dweud oherwydd i chi'n ymwng, Mae gennym yn hynny oherwydd mae oed yn hangion iawn, er bod ond mae galwch nhw ar y cael hyn. Mae'r erbyr iawn yn ddiffydd iawn neu efo'i yn rhan olyw i fynd i gael, mae'n wedi gweld ffordd 10 o 15 fyrn ym Nghymru a ond mae'n i gael i gael iawn.  Onw'r cyflym yn gweithio ar 15 o'r unrhyw ar hyn. Byddwn i'r cysylltu ffobl o'r teimlo iawn o'r gweithio'r ysgolau. Dwi'n ddim yn cael ei gwaith, ond yr ysgol iawn yn cynnig. Byddwn i'n ddigwyddio'r ddwylo. ac y gallwn bydau allan nhw'n cael bod ymwneud yn cael gwaith. Mae'n fawr i'r bwysig. Yn ni'n cael ei fawr i'w ddweud yn ymwneud hyn yn cael eu pwydd o'r hyn. Mae'n gwybod yn fawr o'r adeiladol o'r amser o erbyn. Oen chi'n golygu'r hyn ar y pwysig? Yn ni'n golygu'r hyn, yn cael ei wneud. Mae gennym amser i'w ddiddordeb. Mae'n golygu'r hyn ar ddiddordeb, Mae hiwn rhai'r adau cyhoedd ac yn gyfran yr adau yma ar y dweud ar y cyfaint a'r adau cyhoedd. Rhaid i gyd yn bars. Rhyw hwnnw'n ffordd i'r hunain, maen nhw'n iawn dar i'r adau'r adau a'r adau hynny, rhaid i'ch cael eu lleydd, o'i gynnig. Mae hiwn y gallwn gwmhent yma, yn gweithio. Rhaid i'r adau 75 yn glwp hefyd. Chyn gweld gyda'r adau, oherwydd yn 100%, .. onder oed yn ddechrau'r traingfa ar hyn oes oherwydd byth yn dod o'r môl. Yn ar-dewr, a ydi'r methu o'r difllett rhesiwn i gyfnod o'r môl. Rwy'n pwysig yr oedd yn gweithio'n cael gwahoddiad a ddiddorol. Mae erbyn o'r gennol i'r gondigio'n ddiwedd. Ac yn fyw, mae'r rhaid i'w rhaid i'w ymddiadau, ac mae'n rhaid i'w ddiogel i ffysiol. Mae'r modd o'r gwneud oherwydd ymddiadau, mae'n rhaid i gynhyrch gyda'r gwaith. Mae'r rhaid i ddod yn ffocwsion i'r ddau'r pitch, ond yn ddod yn rhaid i'w rhaid i'w ddau'r pitch, mae'n rhaid i ddau'r pitch gwaith i'w ddau'r gwaith. Ond y gallwn yn barag yng Nghymru, roi am arall i beth yw pob fydd maen nhw a gael ymgyrch. Oherwydd, rwy'n dechrau sydd wedi fydd yn eich hynny doedd, ac yn ymgrifennol bryd ei gallu'r holl, ond mae'r unrhyw am fath o'r adeg yn ddesgu y dywed. Mae'r adeg yn profi'r traint i'ch wir, mae'r busgr ymgrifennu, ymgrifennu, y caion gwasanaethau, Being apologised to have been wasted, we felt frustrated more than being frustrated it's disappointed because the game if there was any doubt that should have been dealt with a lot earlier and it was. That's the point isn't it? The latter half of the bill thinks of making a real sort of tilt. Mae'r gwrth yn dweud – nid o'r mhwytau'r cyfreidau o'r cyfrindiau neu'r cyfrindiau. Mae'n olygu'n hetau'r hyn mae'n dweud y ffraith, mae'n ymddangos'r ddechrau yma. Mae'n ddysgu'n ddysgu, mae'n ddysgu'n ddysgu'n ddysgu'n ddysgu'n ddysgu'n ddysgu. Mae'r bobl yn ychydig i'w gweld. Rwy'n meddwl, mae'n meddwl yma. Mae'n meddwl gyda'r club, oherwydd mae'n meddwl i'w meddwl. Mae'r meddwl hynny'n gwybodaeth yn i'r ystod. Fy fydd yn ymgyrch, fel y byddoch yn ymen nhw. Rydyn ni'n gweithio eliwch yn yma. Rydyn ni'n gweithio, mae'r byddoch yn ei gwasanaeth. Mae'n ei gwasanaeth, mae'n gweithio i'r ffływch. Mae'n dweud yn ddweud i'n meddwl i'r ddweud i'r ddweud. Is there any indication, as far as you're aware, of a possible date for the rearrangement yet? No, I've spoken to Mark Harrison and they've put a couple of dates. Or we've seen in the calendar, the programme, there's a couple of potential dates but nothing's been confirmed yet. So yeah, we'll just crack on with the game that's right in front of us. I guess that's sort of an extra bit of disruption as well, isn't it? Not just the fact that that game at the weekend has been postponed and you've had the travel there and back, but now you're going to have to plan an extra game into what is already a pretty congested last few months. Yeah, that's it, but it's one where things are out with our control sometimes and we have to be adaptable and ready to compete whenever that challenge is laid down for us. So it's not ideal, no-one wants to go to a place, come back and then have to go again for no fault of our own. But we have to roll with the punches, unfortunately. Like I said, the players, us as staff, we get well looked after. It's more the supporters that took the brunt of the postponement because of the financial cost and certainly the time because it's not an easy place to get to. So yeah, and it will be a Tuesday night now. So obviously our numbers that will follow us will be probably a little bit less than would have gone there last Saturday because we saw the amount that was going to be there and it was great to see. So I'll share that pain. It was obviously a chance as well to sort of quickly put that and that disappointment at Wickham behind you. When you spoke to us, Graham, after last Wednesday, the disappointment was clear given the sort of manner of the defeat. But what's the place been like in the days after that?   And then we just had a brief three, four minute chat about the game, about how to handle the disappointment of that. And what an opportunity we have still to play for this season. You've got to learn to roll with the punches and come back stronger and better. That's what we're trying to create an environment where things happen in games or during games and after games. And we're still off the canvas ready to fight again. And that's what I've seen in the players. I just felt it was right. I don't usually talk about previous games too much apart from a tactical basis and analysis. But I just wanted to remind the players of how well they've done in the last 20 games or so.  And you're not going to get rid of that pain. It's going to linger. It's going to be there for a while. You're going to maybe look even back in five years time as individuals and think that was a good opportunity. No matter what we do in the future winning because defeats stay with you. They stay with you for years, for decades. I've got scars in my head from 30 years ago of big games and big opportunities missed. But I didn't let it affect my future and it certainly didn't take any shine off any future success we had. So for me I think we've got good characters, good people, good personalities that are ready to go. And what I've seen in training again this week is a similar output. I think we're in good form in the league. I think that we have to remember that. So we're ready to roll. And ultimately I guess, albeit it might not fit in the short term, but adversity on that can really make a team at times, can it? Start rolling with the punches as you say. Yeah, well for me I think whatever happens to you in life is how you react to it. Which makes it either a bigger deal or there's not a bigger deal. No one wants to lose a game. No one wants to lose a game in that fashion and certainly no one wants to lose a semi-final. But it's how you react to things like that and you can either decide to feel sorry for yourself and be a victim or you can decide to do the opposite and actually make it stronger, learn from it, use it as motivation. So for me and our group of players and our group of staff that's the only option we have available for us. That's the only one and I want our supporters to feel the same, you know, of what future opportunities we've got ahead of us and how we have to approach it. And what we have to do is go about it in the same way as we did in that game and that's fall out, foot to the floor, trying to win the best way we can. Did you say as well that performance was superb against Wickham Aldin, the result didn't go your way? How important has it been to hammer home that point that albeit you've come out on the wrong side of the result you've effectively dominated a side that are in a vision above? I'll be honest, I don't think I've had to do that. I think everyone else has done that for me. The press, the media, the TV people, the supporters, I think everyone's spoke about how well the team performed and players aren't stupid. They know if we let ourselves down, don't perform to the levels but they also know when we've been very good and we were very good. So I haven't had to talk to them about that specific game and how good they were. They know that and everyone else is telling them. And that makes it easier for me because I think when you get credit from people outside I think sometimes it's quite rewarding but it doesn't overcome or it doesn't overshadow this point in losing. But the players, I feel, have been in really good form. I think we've been getting our rewards from our performances in the last three games certainly in the league and that's the form we have to continue with. Just looking ahead to the weekend, Graham, team news-wise, has that sort of improved your weekend off given a chance for any players to come straight back in this weekend? No, not really. The players that we have missing are still unavailable for us. We've got the group of players that we had last Saturday so I don't think... Well, I know no-one will be returning to that squad in time for Saturday. There's a couple of boys resurfacing around their peripheral training from the rehab group, which is good to see, but they're still a little while away from being included in the matchday squad. We just can't afford to lose any other players for a significant amount of time. We have to make sure that we look after them as much as we can in a competitive sport. We have to still play to win and train to win. We've had more than our fair share of injuries, so we have to try and maintain the boys that we still have available. You've got a few individuals on that side of recovery. Ciaran Kelly, what's the latest on him? Ciaran is fine. He was included in the squad on Saturday for the game. He's trained this week, so he's in good shape. He's still got a bit of bruising from the injury he had, but he's a tough cookie, so he'll be fine. He's training with us. Matthew Platt and Jake Young? Yeah, they're still not available, unfortunately. Jake Young's not going to be available for quite a while. He's had an operation on his hamstring, so that draws him out for a significant amount of time. Matthew Platt, he came out around the grass today, not involved in our session, but he was outside, which is a good sign. It's not something that's really significant, but it's certainly enough to keep him out of the matchday squad and fortune at the moment. Knox County, Graham, they're not in the best of form themselves, but they're still sort of in and around that cluster of teams as it yourselves pushing for the playoffs. How do you read into them at the moment? I don't go overboard on looking at every other team, as in looking around the league and worrying about their issues and problems. We have enough to deal with on our own doorstep that we try to focus on, but every time we come up against a opponent, we do our analysis, we do our due diligence on what they can produce, and we try to take their best game into our consideration. Nothing really to do with current form, but what they're capable of, what each individual is capable of, what their team is, how they play and so forth like that. That stays pretty much standard for whether we're playing a team that's won their last 10 or lost their last 10. We just try to keep a consistent way of looking at the opposition and then finding any areas we can exploit or help ourselves to win in our way. Our way of playing, we're trying to be really consistent with that for the players and I think that's where our consistency will lie in how we approach our games. Not to count it, we've still got very good players and they're still being a motivated mental state to make this a successful season. They've had a couple of seasons where they've won a lot of games. Every team goes through a little lack of form now and then, but it doesn't take away the quality they have within their squad. We have to be as fully prepared as we are for every other game coming into Saturday. There was the players last night as well. He's got a much longer turnaround than they have. How much of an advantage does that give you in particular when it comes to that sort of energy battle? There's a load of things. I don't think the last three or four days going into a game determines the result that much. I think you've got to look at how each team is developed and right from the start of pre-season and all that sort of thing. They've had a group of players that have been together for a long time and locked success and playing in certain ways. The last three or four days, most professional footballers are fit enough now to be able to do that. I would expect them to be able to run as much as they could on Tuesday, on last Saturday. The big thing for me in football is the mental side of it. It's how you approach it. I think if you've got a negative mindset, it doesn't matter how long you've got in between games. You will still have a negative mindset. If you've got a positive one and you play a game every two days, then you give yourself the best chance. We have to make sure that we just focus on what we can do and what we can produce in a game of football against a good team. I think it was my second game when we played them last time. It was a game of really contrasting halves, but I'd rather repeat the second half if I'm being honest. Brilliant. Cheers, Graham. Best of luck this weekend. Thanks, Paul. Cheers. Hi, Graham. Hi, Tom. You were saying about, obviously, Notts County.  I think their manager was saying, as you've alluded to, that these lads have got used to winning and they've not been through a difficult spell like they're going through now for a long time. Do you think that's something that perhaps you can take advantage on if you can jump on them a little bit? We've always wanted to try and start games in a really good fashion, and we went through a period where we were probably over committed if that's the right phrase and left ourselves open. We've tried to show a little bit more control and patience, and not try and win a game in the first 15 minutes and actually make sure that we give ourselves the best opportunity to win the game over whatever it lasts, 95, 96, 97 minutes. So there's loads of little things that happen in games of football that sort of steer a game towards a certain result. And we have to be good enough for which I believe we have to have consistent performances over the full scope of the game, not just have a really bright start and sort of diminish from there. It's about the whole game. I'm not in control of their players, their squad. Each manager will know his players better than I will. I just want my players to maximise their potential and their quality because I believe that's where our success lies. It's not what the opposition can produce. It's about us and the players are in a determined mood. I think we've built up a consistency and not a full-out head of steam, but a good momentum. And I think come Saturday we'll be in a strong position mentally to give it our best shot to win the game. Presumably, you're probably expecting quite an expensive game, aren't you? Bear in mind, I think Notts County is going to have 130-odd goals this season. I think they've got an identity how they want to play. I don't think they'll change that overnight or want to change it overnight. I think it's been one of their strengths over they've been consistent. Obviously until the new manager come in they've had a consistent run with the previous manager. He had a while to work on his team and a couple of off seasons and all that sort of thing and structure in the squad to play in a certain way. I can't see that changing. It was certainly the case when we played them down there. I've not seen anything different from then until now to emphasise a change of style or anything like that. They've certainly been on a goal-scoring entertainment value one of the highest because there's been a lot of goals in the games they've been involved in. Presumably, from your side's excellent defensive record of late it's a good test facing up to the division's top scorers. I think so. I think our structure has been really good for quite a while. I think a couple of games we've just been a little bit ill-disciplined or a little bit unfocused at the start of a game that's put us on the back foot. But in general terms I think the defensive side of our game and team has been pretty good. Obviously, since Sam's come in I think he's added to that and added to the clean sheets that we want to build on. But they've shown even in their game on Tuesday night even though they've still scored three goals. There's still bits we need to improve as a team on that side of it. We're not perfect in that score but every credit to the players so far they've done it really well. They've worked exceptionally hard on the pitch and off it to make sure that we give ourselves the best chance of being hard to beat. I was going to ask you also about Noah Wood's work. Obviously, a young lad had been on the bench the last couple of games. You brought him back from Farsley where he's been playing on loan. What was your sort of thinking about that? Well, Noah's been training with us on and off since I came in really. He's one of the lads when we needed to add to the numbers. We were exposed to him really early and I liked what I saw. So we've kept including him in training. But it was important that he continued to play his games, to get his games programme up. But when we had a couple of injuries and a couple of areas where we thought we needed a bit more support I just wanted to get him back. I think he's a good footballer. I think he's adaptable. He can play in two or three different positions. He can play off both feet. He's a fit lad. He's quick. He's quite a composed lad as well. He's quite laid back at times. I think sometimes a bit too laid back for me. But when he's competing he does it right. I think there's a good player there. So I want us to be a club that has a good team, good players, good experienced players and ready made players that we know what they can do. But we also want to have opportunities for young players. It's something that I talked about when I first came in with the squad being so big. It was difficult to bring those lads in, even into training sessions. This is why we wanted to get to January to be able to trim it down a little bit to give the opportunities to these young guys. There's other young players that train with us quite regularly in our academy. I want to continue to do that, to give them the chance to show what they can do and get their career started at Bradford City. I think there's some good players in there. For me, if he has to play, I've got no qualms putting him in because I think he's got the potential to be a good player. Is it a little bit of a double-edged sword in the sense that you obviously had to bring him back from where he was playing games and now he's not playing games, but he's developing and training with the senior players? I wouldn't have done that lightly because it's a balance you don't want. I wouldn't have brought him back if he wasn't going to go into our matchday squad because I think it's important that young players continue to play and get that opportunity to learn their trade. It was a point where I was definitely he was close to a start, not just being on the bench. I was considering to start one of the games as well. He's still in my thoughts to start the games. Any player that's in our matchday squad has got the potential to start preparing that. I didn't want to disturb that. We've got other good young players out on loan that are playing quite regularly, but if we have an opportunity or we think they're good enough to help us, then we have to do what's right for Bradford City first and foremost. I think Noah training every day with us may be feeling more part of it because he's in a matchday squad and it's not just almost an invite coming up and then going back. He's with us permanently at the moment. I think it would be good to see how he progresses with that mentally and if we can take him on a level because I think he's a bright young player. Presumably you've noticed the difference in him from his spell playing means football so to speak? I think that's one... We like to... When we have the opportunity, we bring young players up to train with us because obviously there is a physical element of a young player being ready to compete and I watched before we called him, I watched him play two games against Scunthor which I knew would be a really good competitive game and he played well in those games when I watched him on the analysis and that's just before I called him back. But when we do train these boys who come up it's the first probably test we look for them to pass can they physically compete with grown men and I think certainly no one can do it, no problem at all. I think there's other good young players that can potentially do it as well. I think if they've gone out there and got hairs on the chest so to speak to playing men's football I think it's another positive part of their progression. Last from me, the usual Jamie Walker watch question, how's Jamie doing? He's progressing, still progressing but we want him back but we want him back in the right condition in the best condition so he doesn't have a recurrence of that. We certainly don't want to push players at this stage where we lose him again because I think if we lost him again through that then that would be a season done. So he's out on the grass every day, he's still not joined in with us yet. I think that's getting close which I think will speed up his rehab and speed up his progress but he is where he is but he's certainly progressed in the last I'd say 7-10 days but it's still maybe a couple of weeks before he's back into full training with us and as soon as we're getting back it would be a great addition to the squad because he's a good player, we know that and I think the other players are looking forward to playing with him again. Have you sort of got a date in your head where you're looking at on the 50 list thinking possibly, possibly? No, not really, I don't do that. I don't want to look too far ahead. I think it's a dangerous game, you either get disappointed and it's a negative and maybe you're not focused on the players that are out there and ready to do it now. So for me I trust the information I get back from the medical staff, I trust my eyes when I see him out there but right in the here and now I focus on the players that are fit to train and play and then when they come back into full training that's when they get more full focus so hopefully that's sooner rather than later.


For a very early stream from the shop and as long time viewers know, let me adjust the camera a little right there. As long time viewers know, we tried to do a livestream from the shop at least once a month. We didn't get to do it last January so our last live from the shop was last December and I tried to do it when it's a holiday kasi Matyumahirap pagshoot nung live when yung people coming in, yung customers coming in plus, yung know, we've gotten a bit cramped in the shop. We always seem to outgrow the space. We keep moving to a bigger and bigger space but you know, we just keep outgrowing it and that's also true for this particular spot that we're in. I think we've been here and we moved out from Gijo. We're in Chino Roses now for the past two years but we keep outgrowing it so it's hard to stream from the shop when we're actually using the shop so may papasok ng customer, may nakalatag dito. Let me just show our primary test bench so may naka, you know, may, there are patients on the bench kong baga and we'll talk about some of these guys in a bit. You can see in the background the NR 200P there but before all of that, okay, stop Mark Lester, maaga ka rin na. Yeah, I wanted to get a fast start to today kasi marami paong gagawin but I had a great yesterday sa yan nung kahapon talagang I just took it easy. But as long time viewers know, I'll see you after the ad break. Hanapin ang address version na gusto mo, piliin ang preferred playpen logo. Wala pang 5 minutes na ccd ka na para sa windows mo. Marami na kaming na tulungan. Date, sadong depressed ako. But now, I'm from a log of my life. Date, igmasin walang purtos ang life ko. But now, I'm a world class Zuba instructor. So web developer ako and content creator for a YouTube channel and ngayon ganun pa rin ako pero activated na yung windows ko. Kayakon naghanap ka ng legit, mura at original software. Check out cdkoffer.com So yes, we tried to do life from the shop every time na walang pasok. We didn't do it last month kasi I already had enough live stream so usually we need 4 for the sponsor. So we did one na giveaway so it was our big giveaway last January 1. This is actually the first time this year that I'm doing life from the shop. That's good. I approve of this plan. That sounds like a good way to spend the holiday Saturday. Sop, Brennan Espartines. And thank you for also being a customer. Both Mark Lester and Brennan are customers of the shop. I'm sorry if I just outed you guys like if you were hiding from your particular spouse or girlfriend or partner na Oh, hindi naman ako bumili na computer. Yes, those guys have bought from the shop. So usually what we do in life from the shop is we just go around the shop and make kwento. We're gonna talk a little bit about what the current builds we have in the shop. I am surprised there is an audience or like 20 plus people watching.  That's what I did yesterday. So it's been a bit hectic but so the last time I got to play Cyberpunk was like mid January. And then so yesterday talaga I was like I'm not gonna do any work. So I'm not gonna answer any emails. I got no reply. I'm not going to do any live streams. We did release a video but I was already pre-planned. So I woke up early so I could play Cyberpunk. And that is the, for me, you know, pound for pound value for money. That is the best way to start a long holiday. Wake up early when nobody can bother you and you get some gaming time in. Stop Sonny from Facebook. These are the Cooler Master MH670. These are actually a very old model. So it's like maybe three years old. We do have two left in the shop and I know I sound biased because you know we're trying to sell something but they are really good. I also use these for gaming. So these are my, actually these are my primary headset both for media consumption, like watching videos and for gaming and when I do need to use a mic. Actually, if you've noticed my streams from my place, I do use an Elgato Wave 1 as my primary mic but if I need to walk around like I do now, I love it that they're wireless. Usually if I can make something wireless or there's a wireless version of something that I need, I'll get it. So that's my mouse, my headset, things like that. And yeah, the sound quality is very good and you can get them really kind of cheap now. So they're not the latest model but the Cooler Master MH670, both sound quality and audio quality, excellent at a very good price right now. And we still have to watch out. Parang, this sounds like there's a whole backstory to this. I would ask na lang over the stream but you know, parang I am kind of curious now. Stop vigilante gaming. No sale. The sale was last Monday I think when, another thing I've been doing is na, I game stream CS2 and palagi yung title, kung maka MVP ako, there'll be a sale from the shop and kumpantiy ako kasi I never get MVP naman. I mean, I get it like once in the blue moon, maybe once every three months. But what are the odds that you're streaming? Nagkataon na nag MVP nga ako, I think last Sunday in my stream game last Sunday. So it was sobrang kalokohan. It was ridiculous. It was a wasted MVP. We were terror and mananalo na yung counter. They just needed to win one more round. So yung naman ako nakatapon. I'll just play my regular game and that particular round, I got four kills and I got MVP and we won, terror won that round and then we lost the next round. So completely useless and that was the game. I'm completely useless MVP except nakatao.  I think the Monday. So the day after I got MVP, we were 5% off on everything. But you know what I like about hardware sugar customers? A lot of them like note naman super look for a discount. They understand that they come to us not because we have the best prices, although I think over all our prices are competitive naman. But because customer service will really walk you through like oh we recommend this because you're doing it for video editing so you don't need heavy GPU that's for gaming. So we tailor it to your use case and there wasn't really much of a response when the shop went on a flash sale 5% off for one day. Although we did announce it on our usual channels. So we will be we will be let's just go through the shop a little bit like what's going on. We're going to need a primary camera. I'll take my walk around camera or a droid cam. So this is my cell phone and I'm using droid cam to hook up to the laptop and that intern everything is piped through restream. So you'll notice we have like 22 LG monitors I think here. So these are 49 inches. It's definitely gaming to 40 hertz. 1000R curved and then 2K gaming. So these are all paid for already by one customer. They're going basically to a big arcade. The customer is trying to replicate an F1 type of experience. So they got their custom they're ordering custom computers for mass like custom in terms like of the specs. And then they're also going to fabricated like a oh sorry I realized that I should make this bigger. There you go. So these are like the 20 or so 22 I forget how many LG monitor 49 inches these are. So they fabricated a enclosure. So it's like a racing sim kind of setup. So we building up so they're getting the place ready. They're getting the computers ready. But we've already shipped around four. I think the name of the place Monzo arcade or something like that or Monzo Barcade. It's in Akovia in Pasig. But you know they're still setting up the space but they're ramping up their marketing already and things like that. Actually this has been in development since last year. And these monitors have been with us for a while. You know I would never get something that was already paid for by a hardware sugar customer but I must admit to being a little tempted to try them out. To test them. You need to test stuff before you give them to the customers. AP201 Lovely case. We've had review on it since last year. Plain to Fame is obviously the basically wraparound mesh. So it's mesh here mesh here and mesh mesh here. So a lot of airflow going on in this case. It is an MATX case. What I like about it though is that it's more compact or it's shorter at least than the usual ATX case. So you can fit it into more spaces. It looks damn good. It also comes in white. It's black and white. I love the front panel. Very subtle. Power button. There's an outline here. It lights up USB-C all the good things. So one very solid case. And you know what I like about this aesthetic? The whole mesh thing. So you think TG side panel is the best way to look at your RGB and your rig. But I really like it when the RGB is cut up. So when you turn on the case and when you turn on the computer and there's RGB inside and then the light is filtered through the mesh. I think for me that's a more pleasing aesthetic. Super bright in your face na RGB. Granted you don't really see the components but a lot of the time maybe you don't want to see your components. Unless you have a digital readout like the AK620 digital over there which is currently actually my current CPU cooler. Oh yeah, we'd be interested. Although yung twi honest I don't know a lot about controllers. I'd have to ask the guys in the shop like things to look out for and stuff like that. I'm not from Hardware Sugar because of your no BS warranty.  I mean you know that andami ng ibang shops eh. I mean there are like a ton of shops out there. And that's good for the customer.  Sa panton. Top dances at Waifus. To be fair it we fairly have a sale. And yeah 5% isn't a lot compared to like the sale of some other shops. I don't know how some of the other shops do it na they're constantly on sale. And some of the sale prices. Like to be honest some of the sale prices of the shops mas mababa pa kaisa sa distributor so I mean I do see the distributor prices. So I don't know how they're making money because they need to buy from the distributor and then they need to sell them. But if they're selling them below the price of the distributor, lugi pa sila. And for me especially as the owner of a small shop I'd rather just break even kaisa sa mabenta pa asa los. I mean of course you have to wait because sobrang lumana ba nung part di na talaga mababenta yan. You're trying to recoup na lang some money versus at least all of the money that you poured into the part. And that's really a big headache with the shop on how to as a small shop how to juggle all of our finances to make sure that we do have stock of things and at the same time everybody gets paid and things like that. It's a big headache. After this time shay manton, I am scheduled to vacuum my car. So I have a three year old who might bring to school mostly every day of the school week and she likes snacking in the car and there are so undamming and damming crumbs and damming all the biscuits that she eats and stuff because it's like a bunch of stuff. So um yeah, it's been a real eh, I'm trying to okay, I'm trying to yeah flip it. So I mean I like keeping a neat car and it kind of drives me up the world that my daughter is just so flippantly tossing crumbs on da. So I got myself like those portable vacuums the one that you plug in, so yung medyo malangas naman and then every once a week or so I try to vacuum my car and that is on my to-do list for this for this Saturday. But I do need to edit a video that we're going to release hopefully tomorrow. Five things you don't need to know before trading cryptocurrencies. So I got to edit that but I do want to get in some gaming time as well. Seeking of cryptocurrencies, Maverick Hornet in the chat. Yes I have Maverick Hornet is a regular on our crypto watch which we'll be doing sometime this week siguro, maybe Tuesday for those not following, yet the crypto market is doing quite well. But after like 10 days of the price kind of goes up, it goes down it doesn't really go anywhere. But like maybe for the past three days or so, sobrang nakas ng crypto basically from slightly below 42,000 for a bitcoin 42,000 us now it's at around 47 so I'll focus on what's in the shop for this stream but definitely monitoring that space and exciting times for crypto although I just heard a I'm going to lose my low bat na to I got to move around before my phone dies. I'm not going to charge before I started the stream so let me just while we still have it alright while I can still go around, here we have a Corsair, Corsair 4000D NHD15 from Max Black I mean what is there to say? I mean the NHD15 up to now still looks super solid and here's a NVMe P5 Plus with a heat sink usually this must have been custom usually see this in the shop like with a heat sink usually we just use the one with the mobile so the AP201 this is definitely in for diagnostics because we were running a mem test on it so if anybody from the shop is watching this past mem test I turned it off already this one Corsair 4000D obviously ATX case 3 fans in the front 3 fans also on top super maximized this guy is doing in the shop actually for diagnostics or something sorry this is not a Corsair 4000D apparently it's an NZXT huh H5 H7 I apologize to NZXT NZXT was super big maybe like 3-4 years ago now they've kind of tapered off but and you could have fooled me we do sell more Corsair 4000Ds so yeah kala ko Corsair 4000D but it's actually an NZXT H5 maybe and of course our very lovely cable management props to the guys in the shop I could never make it that clean so alright this is nice MATX major size last mainstream size is of course ITX NR200P I also do not know what the NR200P is doing here is this a new build? I don't think so one of the most popular ITX cases not the most compact of ITX cases but it does make things a lot easier for us I think this is the max I know the max also comes with its own cooling yes yes I think it is the max because it has the AIO also so I think it's NR200P max so with the NR200P actually both the max and the non max version you have a choice they come with two side panels the TG, the clear glass side panel and the Vented or the mesh type of side panel especially if you have your with a GPU like this it's really better to have it like the Vented one and that's my issue really with horizontally sorry vertically mounted GPUs I worry especially in smaller cases like this what air flow where can it get its air flow it's really impeded it is where a TG side panel deep cool Macube I think this is a Macube or CH510 they've been experimenting with a lot of things in the shop actually as usual love the magnetic thing so easy to remove this though is not magnetic oh this must be a new build sorry customer you can do the peel don't tell the don't tell the customer right accidentally started the peel already although and that's a para na lang sa uso also like three years ago you would see all the reviewers like the peel but now it's gone out of favor look like a solid build AK620 oh wow I think this is a 4070 there's an MSI in there gaming slim I don't quite know the specs on this guy gotta put the filter back I think this is a new build these three are probably diagnostics but this one is probably a new build we do have I think we're just waiting for parts for this so here we have the error 200p max and the 4070 do maybe this is a new build too nipalang na customer here's the ASUS 4070 alright so this is a new build too new build and I think those two diagnostic so there's a 4070 in there we do have a 4070 super I think this one was also a custom order oh no it's a new build too it's an H7 to be honest I've been really this is also a new build so this is a 4070 super we got the nhd15 chromax max chromax black and so this is an H7 flow to be honest don't tell the guys in the shop I haven't been as nakatutok sa shop this year kasi I am trying to give them autonomy because I figure if we're gonna be if we're gonna be expanding hardware sugar it's not physically possible for me anymore to to be the one to do the inventory and then also have to check on the rma and things like that so I'm trying to maintain the quality but you know I'm sort of like if it like in management structure level like a bit more on top and then I'm giving a lot of autonomy to the guys who are actually on hand at the shop on the ground at the shop which is not to say like even before I gave people a lot of autonomy like a lot more autonomy than a regular boss I think would give and so that's I've accelerated that process even further this year ay because there's so many things going on with my family just in terms of regular stuff like the kids are growing up so they're gonna start they're starting to go to school I started teaching again at my alma matter so on the personal side on the personal side also like this year I really you know science are pointing to it being a super big year for crypto so I don't want to miss out on that earning opportunity so since last November I have been updating myself on modern trading so I've been in crypto for a very long time I've had skin in the game for a very long time bitcoin was single digits you could still CPU mine when I got interested in cryptocurrencies but it's only since last so I've been you know trading trading but you know not really like super hardcore about it last November you know I flipped the switch I'm like you know just be hardcore about this magandang opportunity for 2024 early 2025 so a lot of my time has been devoted to that as well so transitioning between and I think it's appropriate na life of the shop I kind of talk about like how we're running the shop last November sorry last December into January pan I've been trying to evolve more of my functions to other people so that we can still maintain the quality but you know I'm free to concentrate a bit on other things hopefully the shop breaks even soon because I'm really tired of losing money so tiring so so nakaka so I'm very upfront that you know hardware sugar doesn't make any money I'm constantly borrowing from people to get the shop running to keep the shop operating pero to be fair you know we keep upgrading the shop so all of the profits of the shop get plowed back into the shop you know we've expanded the number of people we have the space that we're in the inventory that we carry but you know it's just it would be nice if the shop could do all of those things and maintain man lang at least a green cash flow so I mean I've been very upfront na yes it's very difficult to run a shop maybe I'm just a sucky businessman I mean that is that might be the case that that that is a possibility I have noticed that towards maybe the second half of the year sales are better but the first half you know people just bought no Christmas and things like that that's when I notice historically speaking I have to lend out or find you know temporary sources of income to supplement the shop and it's not uncommon for businesses to be to you know binabawi dila so part of the year they're in the red and then the parts of the year that they're in the green they make up for it like one example that comes to mind is toys are us before toys are us in the states a super big retailer of toys and they would only be in the green starting like November December but what they made in November December was enough to cover their entire costs for the year because you know to November December big buying opportunities for kids so you know I'm not like super concerned but like you know I am tired like after years of running the shop that I have very little monetarily to show for it so hopefully this year will be the year that we turn that around yep there is like the new nvidia GPUs they're shouldn't have been on sale yet like embargo sila from our primary distributors but like we had some customers to be fair like they were super loyal they were messaging us oh you know the 4080 super something like that and we're like it's really not for sale yet and they're like what the other shops have it nothing wrong with the gray market especially if you get it at a good price and if you get it from a resta an established retailer or the warranty but yeah those are not um from the official distributors cat yung 5700 x3d embargo pa rin yun even though that one we could buy already from um from our local distributors yeah um it's a very competitive market um pc shops one you really need a lot of capital because these parts are effing expensive of 4070 you know um I don't know what CPU is in here and n7 flow ndxt you know will set you back quite a number of thousands of pesos and if if the customer thinks it's expensive um yes you know I mean if a customer feels like oh sobrang mahalong 4080 is even malalang like a shop that has to carry like three of those and something like that so that's why our inventory is always um kind of just spot on like we only try to carry as much um as we can compared to I mean you know we don't stock a lot but we try to be more nimble with our inventory because you know our capital can't support it we need to be adaptable uh I love um mag stream ka rin ng hfw on pc na I really want to sorry Vigilante gaming knows that I've been I'm a big fan of horizon zero dawn so that I don't usually play console but that came out um on you know that was on ps4 I stole my brothers ps4 to play it I love loved horizon zero dawn um forbidden west the sequel um came out already on ps5 but the port is coming soon to pc but I don't have the time um I will probably pick it up maybe December when it's on discount because I gotta like for the AAA games I want to do the Jedi night um sequel which came out last year um armored core I also want to do that one but I'm still finishing cyberpunk which is like um I got phantom labor I was gonna get phantom wait for phantom liberty like on discount but uh one of the youtube members uh sent it to me so again super thank you and I am I am really enjoying it uh when I do get down to play I'm only maybe in the middle of phantom liberty um you know I still have a ways to go plus I'm doing the quests that I didn't do last time around I thought major comprehensive name playthrough ko when I did the cyberpunk years ago but um apparently a daming mga quests na you know outside of the phantom liberty phantom liberty expansion that's true and um uh gamers nexus in particular was very vocal about that but uh h1 that was a really promising itx ksana Robert from youtube can a single 1600 watt platinum psu run to 4090s with an r9 uh or i9 cpu you know when I first saw the question like 1600 watts no problem I was like ooh 240 90s plus the top tier cpu ah this is a very niche question I would be a little concerned but just because I assume if you're gonna run that hardware you're gonna run it full bore like you're gonna like balls to the wall you know todo na tin 100% 110% you know in those kind of situations you do want a little head room or you know a little allowance in the power supply um you know it is a platinum it is 1600 watts pero I would be a little concerned um me you know I'd prefer like maybe a 2000 watt psu for that if you could find it so not saying that it wouldn't run but like for my peace of mind if I were doing that hardware plus I'm assuming ah that you're gonna run it full bore um 2000 watts might be a more comfortable uh more comfortable watt capacity so uplucky bear vlogs and kung hey fachoy to our fieldtry listeners um yeah chahapi chinese new year my wife is actually fieldtry so I am 100% not chinese and she is 100% chinese so um I over the years I have um it's interesting for me to learn like other cultures and traditions and um yeah it's been interesting and also like you know occasional chinese words affordable a good but affordable aio choose deep cool um they have a the L the LT series is kind of like their higher end but the LE LS series also pretty good um personally for me um I'm not using one of their aios right at the moment but I'm using one of their coolers for my ryzen 9 5900x the ak620 digital and it is smooth sailing uh two points about deep cool number one we've carried them for a long time over multiple models they're a very reliable manufacturer very reliable brand um okay let me just I think we're done with kind of moving around let me just turn off the this one because I want to preserve some battery for the trip home so I'm gonna turn that off and turn you off okay let me check uh okay what I'm doing like these housekeeping things let me play the ad again uh apologies but I will get back to you guys after we make some money the youtube channel has actually been very positive um it's been really helpful for the shop 11 activation pose legit safe at pinakamura madadilo mo order hanabi ang latest version na gusto mo piliin ang preferred paypen friend mo wala pang 5 minutes na sizigit na para sa windows mo marami na kaming na tulungan daddy 7 depart ako but now I'm family love of my life dati aimless ang walang purpose ang life ko but now I'm a world class zumba instructor so web developer ako and content creator for a youtube channel and ngayon ganun pa rin ako pero activated na yung windows ko kaya ako naghanap ka ng legit mura at original software check out cdkoffer.com check out cdkoffer.com so to answer the question which good budget AIO to get I really recommend deep cool they are not there are cheaper brands in the market for example e-cooling pero in terms of value for money and reliability it's really I have nothing to say but good things about deep cool we've carried them for years starting when we were in giho and then carrying over to where we are now very reliable brand for cases even for power supplies for some of their models and for cooling I put my money where my mouth is currently my cooler is from deep cool although it is an air cooler and all of that being said I built up deep cool some people in chat already know this but the first week of march I will be gone I'll be in China because deep cool invited me to tour their factory so march 4th to 8th I will be in China courtesy of deep cool but that trip has no bearing on my advice that they are really a good brand because I've been saying it for years you can go back to our reviews you can go back to previous live streams deep cool for me is a very good brand and affordable plus very accessible we have some brands we see something but not available to us available to states not the case with deep cool basically anything deep cool comes up with we can get here in the Philippines so affordability liability and accessibility all of those things hats off to deep cool this is a cooler master mh670 I plugged it also at the start of the stream we still have 2 available in the shop so we do have audio quality is very good this is my primary headset both for consuming media like watching youtube or watching movies or episodes as well as I don't really use the mic a lot only when I need to move around usually when I stream from the house I use an Elgato wave 1 so the first version I think it would be up to wave 3 now overall the quality is very good because it's very cheap this is not a new model the model is around 2-3 years old so you can get it at a very reasonable price for the quality I really like it and one other thing that a lot of people that I feel doesn't get a lot of mention but I find super useful is this thing so I'm using my laptop to stream this is the dongle this is the dongle that connects the mh670 to the computer you notice the green light when it is connected properly there's a green light and when it's not there's a red light sounds super useful sounds like a super simple thing but it's super useful when I just want to make sure na tama yung pag-a-connect ng headset I don't need to do anything else I just glance at my desktop I'm seated I just glance to my tower and I can see the green light everything is AOK super useful super simple and one last thing I like about the mh670 again not a plug you can get it from anywhere you can get it from amazon I just really quality hardware it's that when you cut off for whatever reason you're wireless you're moving around and you move away from the range of the bluetooth it will automatically revert back to speakers automatically so some of the headsets I've tried you need to manually go to windows but it's on the fly kind of thing for whatever reason it'll automatically shift the speakers right away and that automatic shifting that is not common and that's one thing I really like about this na it's kinda adaptable it's smart when for whatever reason the headsets are out it automatically shifts back to your speakers and again like super simple but super useful so mh670 subgamer zone you know I'm not an apple fan I really dislike their oh look at me I'm apple I'm better than everybody else and I charge like I'm gonna I think it's a more colorful way to say it it's the morning so it's gonna keep the language like chill the apple really charges a lot you're paying an apple premium for all of their products so I'm not a big apple fan but all of that aside I would love it is it looks like it's very interesting um I think that's the way forward for mainstream AR instead of VR so you can really you can still see your environment you're not completely cocooned or enclosed in a virtual setting the Oculus once so that you know originating with the Oculus and then Facebook bought them eventually rebranded it to the quest line um I think I think the vision pro has a good chance of becoming the first mainstream VR headset and don't get me wrong like I don't look down on VR headsets like I am a kid of the 80s right so when you say VR it's like oh cyberpunk futuristic I bought an HTC Vive um so one of the first like modern gaming headsets and then I was running around my room bumping into walls slashing the swords and things like that virtually so I'm a big fan of VR but I think for the mainstream this kind of AR approach plus it's not just AR but apple really figured out a way to make things intuitive so the way you touch icons you can see the icons and then you just kind of like go like this with your hand so it tracks where your hand is without having to use a to hold a controller so you know a lot of engineering went into figuring out how to make this more intuitive I've seen more mainstream reviews complaining like you know you still look kind of dorky it looks like you have a ski mask on and things like that but even the way it's put on and the way you know it snugly fits on you um is a lot better than the old straps and things so conclusion I generally do not like apple but I think they really are consumer magic on the Vision Pro yes it's expensive but I think you do what you get what you pay for it's like when you first paid $500 $600 for an iPad um you know I remember when the iPads were still new and they were a thing and it seemed very futuristic that yeah you know we had touchscreen phones but the tablet and the larger format just you know inter for media consumption and you know if you're using it to take notes or things like that the larger scale really opened up new possibilities and yeah we've had VR AR headsets before but you know the Vision Pro seems like you know it's a good bet to make the technology mainstream and um I I have saved the YouTube video I haven't started it yet na parang it's a parang behind the scenes on how Apple leadership is super behind the Vision Pro like I think they are identifying it as the next kind of new market that they want to push because you know their old markets are kind of saturated like they made a bundle on the wearables like the their Airpods Airpods are super cheap to make Apple you know crazy markup like na profit margin nila dun but you know the iPhone the market is kind of saturated so they are looking for new markets and I think they're gonna make a big push for the Vision Pro which is good for the consumer eventually prices will go down but um yeah I not an Apple fan but I would love to try out the Vision Pro not so much um I mean you know any um like if if you're um yes okay we do have a video we have a short actually so I have a 3080 that's my primary GPU at length as a 4060 so a 4060 is lower than a 3080 but when I popped it in to my machine so everything completely the same except for the GPU in the Binchie Resolve free version the 4060 even was slightly faster in rendering the exact same video so I think that was a fluke like you know you do a sufficient amount of test overall masubilis paraman yung 3080 because that the GPU is not the primary component you need to worry about for video editing um so like you know if your GPU now is lower than a 4060 you pop in a 4060 for video editing yes things will be slightly faster but I don't think to an appreciable or very uh very noticeable extent um for video editing uh CPU is still king like for video editing yeah you know you get a GPU you get some kind of acceleration but CPU is still a lot more important to your video editing experience especially for me na I don't care so much about the rendering time like I'm going to leave the video rendering it'll be done in 10 20 minutes depending 5 minutes depending on the length of the video and you know that's my time I'm standing up I'm getting a snack I don't worry too much about the long renders for me what's super important for a video editing computer is that the play back is good because that's what you're doing as a video editor you're scrubbing through the raw footage or cutting or putting text or putting clips and things like that it's a real pain in the ass when the play back is low and just very recently so my primary computer my computer at home was a Ryzen 7 3700x with a 3080 that's what I was using for editing very decent the 3700x even now it's still a very decent CPU but yunga with larger files with more layers dun sa timelines ko I just you know it was kind of slow starting to get annoying so over the Christmas last Christmas I upgraded to a Ryzen 9 5900x play back is so much smoother but again you wouldn't recommend that for gaming for gaming you wouldn't get that CPU but you know it's kind of fed up that it's kind of like slow editing process so everything is so much smoother now in terms of editing with the Ryzen 9 5900x so again the GPU hasn't changed but the sobrang unlaki ng difference in movement for my editing workflow so for a video editing primarily a computer that will be used for video editing I always say go long like spend a bit more on the CPU and you can kind of not worry too much about the GPU although I do get in trouble for that advice as I do with a lot of my advice a lot of the things I say aren't mainstream like don't worry too much about bottleneck yes you know 3600MHz DDR4 for a Ryzen AM4 build is completely fine I mean there's a lot of PC advice don't worry too much about future proofing I think future proofing sounds good for marketing but as a strategy how to build a computer it's not very useful there's a lot of mainstream advice that I don't agree with and I often say so on the channel and people often disagree with me and that's completely fine that's what's lovely about the internet you have people sometimes discussing things in a rational manner sometimes they just get a little heated but one thing I did get called in my recent video about 24 built-ins for 2024 they're like oh you know you said about video editing but no I think you still need a big GPU or you know an expensive GPU because I did say that advice that I would prefer to buy a better CPU than a better GPU for video editing I don't agree and I can say so from experience because I did that 3080 4060 experiment I myself use my desktop a lot for video editing and yeah the R9 5900X made a very big difference that's advice folks I recently discovered the fractal torrent love that case it's a massive case but that's a great looking case because to be fair a lot of the a lot of the mesh cases now in the ones with filter and stuff they do become like an air purifier because our air is so dirty in Metro Manila we don't we don't complain about it enough to the relevant authorities and things like that but our air and I hate smoke belchers like whether it's the boss or jeepneys or the ones that don't get you know you think smoke belcher automatically inisip mo jeepney but in my anecdotally feeling ko yung mas grabipan na smoke belcher yung mga armoured cars because the engines are working so hard because the vehicle itself is so heavy notice you're behind an armoured car like 30% of the time 35% they are grab e mag smoke belcher yung mga armoured cars at least mass transportation they are efficient like they are transferring X number of people to another point but in armoured car from a logistic standpoint yes it's important to move cash but they get less of a free pass for me for smoke belching you know their private companies so are naman the transport companies but I would imagine the armoured cars would have a budget to make sure that their vehicles don't smoke belch as compared to the jeepney driver even just like an operator and then he's working for someone who actually owns the jeepney I imagine the margins there are pretty tight so I hate smoking belching in general parang kiling ko ang basto siya it affects everybody and the air quality of air leads to a lot of health issues and the quality of air in metro manila is terrible and one way for PC guys to see that yung mesh dito sa side it becomes an air purifier or even when you're cleaning out your radiator because the fins are so tightly packed to increase the surface area to get better cooling but when you're cleaning you're the radiator of an AIO or even just the tower of an air cooler grab ay yung dust build up it's crazy I worry sometimes when I'm cleaning you're dislodging all of that dust and you're breathing it in even before the whole pandemic when I would clean I would wear a mask because I don't want to be breathing all of those particulates the PM20's yung micro particles particulate matter below nanometers that is death man that is super bad for your health so try to clean in a well ventilated space wear a mask it's better if your computer is in an aircon room minus not my home office so yeah plus my case is a Thermal Take Core P3 yung open test bench type I don't even put the tempered glass panel so it's like completely open so yeah my stuff does get dusty quite a lot and it just really brings home the point na sobrang dominong hangin natin dito sa Metro Manila yes well the top of line brand is usually PC we do sell pro link in the shop which is a more budget alternative maganda pa rin yung performance but not gonna lie we've had occasional RMA customers coming back they bought a UPS na pro link they sent it back not concerning like not in numbers that we would be concerned about so we still carry it in the shop but pro link is that kinda like step down like yung parang mid level brand na maganda yung performance reliable pero yung maganda sa supplier namin very easy to get RMA so none of our customers have issues with that but usually AP APS APS? APC ba? we used to carry them before but then they changed distributor here and I kinda can't we don't get a lot of them anymore in the shop but pro link would be good and usually like the general advice we do have a video on it like how to choose a UPS like how much VA capacity when you talk about PSUs, you talk about wattage when you talk about UPS uninterrupted power supply you talk about VA but it's not a one is the one like you think oh 1300 VA sa bat na yung sorry like 1000 VA UPS sa bat na yung sa 1000 watt PSU that's actually not the case number one VA roughly it's like 60% so 1000 VA would be good for like a 600 watt system and number two actually hindi linear yung pag-discharge nung battery without the technical jargon that means that it's very hard to come up with a rough estimate on how long it can run a system because at one time it might be able to handle a 500 watt system for 3 minutes at another time it could handle a 700 watt system for 2 minutes since hindi linear yung discharge from the UPS battery it's very hard to come up with an estimate of how long it will take of how long you can run something because even if you have the exact same hardware you do the test multiple times paibay ba yung time hindi linear yung discharge from the battery and we did that one thing I'm very proud of here at the channel we actually do the things that we say we do so we tested the VA thing I tested it personally we had a bunch of different UPS all from pro link and you can really see nga na non-linear yung iba mas matagal yung iba mas mahaba mas matagal mas may same time that they are able to and that's like even for top models say 2000 VA or something so what you want is a decent headroom so even if it's on the shorter if the katao and you get a brown out and for whatever reason you're on the shorter end of the expected time that you can run a computer the UPS kasi for is like 40 seconds to save everything and shut down properly so the sweet spot I recall is around 1300 VA but again it depends like how many monitors you're running what system you're running, things like that but yeah it's a really educational video I was very proud of that video and relevant even up to now I agree paul I also live in a space where you can often see ice cream you can often hear ice cream being sold outside na may nagtitin na nung ice cream nung mga prutas nang hiyari sa labas and dog barks and things like that although like yes it depends also on the microphone but it also depends on the the program that you're running like if you're running in OBS you can set up filters naman but this is also a pretty good AI technology that filters out a lot of the stuff automatically we've tried that also in the shop that's pretty good so Alrin dual monitor and ultra wide na nagtibuso ko ko ano bibilin ko if you're more of a gamer I would choose the ultra wide immersive experience bigger but if you use the computer primarily for let me just sit down on the galax thing also we got this for got this for review ay long ah kita ba just orient the camera down yes are not standing all the time oh too much down naman what a chill strafe alright like this framing is not idea like I would want the camera a bit higher here so if you're a gamer ultra wide for me the immersion is better you wouldn't want to play the game over two screens it's technically possible but you just don't want to do that so primarily for gaming I would get the ultra wide if primarily for work oh dual screen, dual screen is good multiple monitors makes everything so much easier so if for productivity get dual screen, if for gaming get it ultra wide if you're not sure like you do both on the same computer I would get it ultra wide because you can still kind of chop up the screen and get the kind of multiple monitor effect on the ultra wide it won't be iba pa rin if you have like dual screen and you can like just chat or stock quotes so for pure productivity I would still choose a dual monitor setup over an ultra wide also because you're spreading out your points of failure if the ultra wide fails you're out of a monitor if one of the monitors fails at least you can still use one because you still have one left while you get a replacement but if it's a mixed use kind of thing I'd go with the ultra wide because it is more versatile you know your gaming sessions will be great and you can still kind of get the productivity boost that you would get from a dual monitor setup because you can kind of chop up the screen for an ultra wide with an ultra wide alright next chat that's the thing alright so I do got to get back to my work editing a video which would come out tomorrow so youtube members will see tonight B3 worth it 5700x to 5700x3d tough call better sound like if you're buying a new rig and it's for gaming like I would say spend the extra to get the 5700x3d if for gaming oh shoot and apparently my laptop is also about to run out of battery alright so I got to wrap this up short answers na lang personally I would not get it 5700x3d if you already have a 5700x get na lang a faster gpu if that's your concern for gaming subarvic okay I got to be super fast because my laptop also wants to dine na so customer has a 5700x 4070 possible po ba na bottleneck kasi your pc should run that if there is a bottleneck it might be a bottleneck but your pc should be able to run that without any frame drops so I would look elsewhere maybe a driver, I don't know frame drops are annoying, maybe look at the settings but I would not even if there is a bottleneck I don't think that's the issue why you're getting frame drops that's a pretty old game and it's a game that doesn't use a lot of hardware you don't need a lot of hardware to push good graphics on that one try running it on I don't know what resolution you're playing at try running it at 1440p the 4070 does better is more optimized for 2k gaming and I mean 2k the resolution not 2k the game we have very good experience with mp33 that said mas matunog yung xpg like a lot of like a lot of enthusiasts would say go for the xpg just because they've heard more about it and they know it's like performance personally for me like I use an mp33 not a pro but just a regular mp33 in my primary rig and it's great good performance, quality, good price so like personally for me I would choose the mp33 just because I'm very comfortable with team group as a brand but the more mainstream advice would be to take the xpg the a data mas sikat siya on the market so basically my answer is a question which boils down to who do you trust more me or the mainstream not really particularly good advice but I'm just saying if it were me I would get the team group just because team group has built in allowance now with me they have built up goodwill with me already we're working on it I think the kids still rockin the programmer want to do something like that again not at the moment Janelle Ramos Good morning Tracy Neil Tracy from YouTube AM4 AM5 new build depends on the budget if budget is not a problem I would go now with AM5 I'm thinking maybe 100 to 150k budget so medyo higher end computers but if it's


Welcome to Hawaii, the state of clean energy. And I'm your host, Mitch Ewan. Our underwriters of Hawaii Energy Policy Forum, which is a program of the Hawaii Natural Energy Institute. And I'm very pleased today to welcome our guest, Jennifer Potter. Jennifer is the Director of Regulatory Innovations for Strategy and Consulting. But most appropriate for this show, she's a former Hawaii Public Utilities Commissioner. So today we're going to be talking story today about the PUC's role in Hawaii's energy policy and how the PUC protects you, the general public. So Jennifer, welcome to the show. Thank you so much, Mitch. It's a pleasure to be here with you today. Thank you. And you're coming to us all the way from La Ina. All the way. Which is a good little plane trip. I was over there, I was over in Maui a couple of weeks ago attending the Hawaii Energy Conference. That was kind of interesting. So anyway, just so everybody gets to know a little bit more about you, so we don't just jump into a PowerPoint presentation, how about giving us a little bit of your background? How did you actually get to Hawaii and become a PUC commissioner? By a lot of luck. So I started my career as an electric analyst. So I started doing low research and basically from the very bottom of ranks of the utility industry. So I started with the utility. I spent about 10 years with utilities, including SMUD, a second-hand municipal utility district, one of the most famous municipal utilities. So I was so fortunate to work there. They were very progressive, as I recall. I had some dealings with SMUD in a previous life. And they were known to be like big thinkers, thinkers out of the box. So like you said, it's probably really good for you to work with those guys. Absolutely. I learned so much. It was a tremendous experience. And that experience led me to Lawrence Berkeley National Lab, where I spent about three years working on energy research and then moved to Hawaii Natural Energy Institute, where I worked with you. And so I was there until I got swooped up and asked to be commissioner by Governor Ige. And was confirmed by the Senate in April of 2018 and began my tenure in July. And so it's been, I think I had about 13, 14 years of experience in the industry prior to becoming a commissioner. So a healthy amount, but maybe could abuse some more. Right. Well, they probably threw you in the deep end of the pool. And I guess you had to swim pretty fast. Yes, yes, definitely. A lot of reading. Yeah, we're going to get to that in a minute. We have a slide about that. So I also wanted to point out that you actually came from one of the neighbor islands. I mean, not very many commissioners came from a neighbor island. So would you care to comment on the commute and what it was like trying to manage just life living on the neighbor island and having to commute over here to Oahu? Yeah, yeah. So I actually had to rent a studio there because the expectation was that I would spend at least half the week, so three to four days a week there. And I commuted over every week. And I flew Moko Lele Airlines, which is just the best little airline in the world. And it flies the backside of Malachi so you can see the beautiful cliffs. And so I had the world's best commute. I have to admit, I can't complain about that. But I did spend half the time away from my family. And so that's the sacrifice that you make in order to fulfill these positions, in particular, when you're a neighbor island commissioner. And that, it's just what you do for public service. Well, it's probably difficult to recruit, or you probably hadn't think long and hard about accepting the position, I would think, given the time away from home and everything. Absolutely. And I was a newlywed. Oh, wow. So that was even, it was harder. I was like, I really like my husband still, you know? That's really great. Well, thanks for that. And thanks for your service. And thanks to your dedication to the people of Hawaii. And you had a really good reputation. You were a great commissioner. And so we're going to hear your views on how the PUC is taking care of the general public. So let's get on with the first slide and you can tell us what you're going to talk about. Sure. Sure. Yeah, there it is. So yeah, so we're going to go over an overview of the Public Utilities Commission, basically who we regulate when we're established. Then we'll talk a little bit about how the PUC is engaged in Hawaii's energy policy. That is kind of the, that's the mandate and the marching orders that we have on the day-to-day basis, carrying out the work that we do. And then we'll discuss some of the priority areas for the PUC today and then past and moving forward into the future. So. So hopefully what we're going to have, I'll take some of the mystery out of the PUC because I think the general public doesn't really know what the PUC is.  They might see PUC on the back of a taxi cab. And their numbers and what all that means. And we're going to talk a little bit about that. So let's go on to the next slide and tell us a little bit about the background of the PUC. You know, what are they, when do they happen? What do they do? You might go a little bit more detail. You bet. So the PUC has been around for 110 years, which is just a remarkable history if you think about what they've been able to accomplish and how we've developed the islands and that's been through regulation of what are considered monopolies. So these utilities that the PUC regulates are natural monopolies. They're the electric companies, the gas company, water, wastewater, and so these companies are typically, they need regulation in order to control costs and ensure that investments are prudent and in the public interest. And so the PUC's role and responsibility is really to look out for the public interest and ensure that the utilities are performing up to excellent standards and providing the best service possible to the residents of Hawaii. And that means affordable and dependable. And so those are really one thing that the PUC strives to commit to and really trying to, is that affordability complex because we're well aware of the high cost of electricity in the state of Hawaii is no mystery to anyone. So it's a big mandate. Yes, a huge mandate. And we'll see how many people you guys regulate and one of the follow on slides. But we also hear about an organization. I know we're not here to talk about them specifically but the consumer advocates. So it sounds a lot like the consumer advocate. So what's kind of the difference between the two organizations? Could you care to comment on that? Absolutely. So the consumer advocate is involved in every single proceeding in front of the commission. They have some options, there's some exceptions. If there's a telecommunication like a wireless carrier that comes in and wants a certification for public convenience and basically to do business in the state of Hawaii, the consumer advocate typically won't take a position on that but every other docket, there are bread and butter. There are things you- What's a docket? Hang on, that was- Sorry. No, it's okay. I just want people to know what a docket is. Like, what is that? So it's a regulatory filing that's submitted to the PUC and it's typically a request for something. It can be a request for a rate increase. It can be a request for a merger. It can be a request for a capital investment. So there's all different types of proceedings that come before. There's also investigatory proceedings and dockets where the commission can open up a proceeding that looks at how to improve regulation in the state of Hawaii, for example. That was one that the PUC opened up on their own. And then there was actually a subsequent legislation that said, please take a look at this. So we are very in line with our lawmakers, which is excellent. But so yeah, so that's our dockets. The consumer advocate basically does a tremendous amount of the analysis behind all of the filing. So if they're looking at a rate case, they're the ones that are running the numbers behind the scenes, behind the PUC scenes and working alongside the applicant, whether that's an electric utility or it's a gas utility or a wastewater utility, in order to come to a stipulation or an agreement, if you will, about what's the appropriate investment or so that the consumer advocate can make a recommendation to the PUC about whether we should proceed or accept or move forward with whatever that application was requesting. So there- So I have a quick, let's go ahead, sorry. But their main job is really to look out for the public interest. That is, if they take public comments, they really are, they're the ones that are digging into the numbers to look for accuracy and ensuring that we keep costs down and the affordability. And they're, the consumer advocate is a very great ally for the PUC, isn't it? I was just gonna say that. So looking at the PUC, like how many staff does it require? Because you guys have to do all these studies and background investigations. You probably have lawyers and technical guys. I mean, what's the level of staffing for the PUC? So there's approximately 60 people that work there. And there's engineers, compliance people. We have attorneys, we have policy wonks and economists and I said engineers, but auditors. There's a huge and actually even compliance enforcement. So like people that go out in the field and actually enforce some of the requirements for our motor carriers, which we'll talk about in a moment. So staff of 60, they do a tremendous amount of work. I can't believe the amount of work that those 60 people are able to do. And I should not fail to mention, we have amazing IT team. There's actually only two of them. And they keep the whole thing, the wheels on the bus. So I mean, if you think about the docket management system, we have a repository for all the proceedings. They manage all of those repositories. They manage all of the filings and all of that infrastructure that is for basically to do our job on a day-to-day basis. Were you guys totally revamped that whole system? I think during your term, that must have been a monster project. Oh, yeah, I have no idea. I think I lost some hair on that one. I know we don't regret it. Very good. So, and what kind of an annual budget do you have? Do you have any idea? Like how much does the cost, and where does that money come from? I kind of know the answer, but I'm gonna let you say it. Well, I don't know the total budget number because I know that we typically over collect and then send monies back to the general fund. But there is a 2% surcharge on people's bill, and that's on every utility bill that we actually, that are regulated entities. So give to customers, right? So that charge is collected and then passed to the PUC and it's not held in a special fund. And if at the end of the year that money is not spent, then we kick that back to the general fund. So that to the state, yep, can use that money. Let's go on to the next slide because it's gonna give people an idea of the magnitude of the job. Right, 60 people regulating over 1,800 entities. So. How do you do that? It's pretty remarkable. We'll talk about this in a moment, but the large majority of these are motor carriers. So we have electricity, gas, telecommunications, and then private water and sewage. We do not actually regulate any wireless carriers like T-Mobile or Sprint or any of those. They have to come to us for some merger information, for like for mergers, but we don't regulate them. So telecommunications being more like a Hawaii telecom is basically our main character there. And then then, of course, the motor and water carriers. So Young Brothers, for example, which is just sort of this wild card, if you think about it and you throw that into regularly, it's just seems like, whoa, okay, water carriers, that's different. Most states don't have water carriers. So. Well, we're not people carrying buckets of water either, are they? No, no. This is the inner island tug boats and barge service. And so I looked it up before the show. I think we have two. There's that and then there's the little ferry that operates out of Lahaina, right? Yep, the Honohueve, is that right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Is that it? That's it. That's it. That's it, those two. Yeah. Okay, so let's go a little bit more into the next slide and talk about enforcement and how you keep people from getting ripped off. Yeah, exactly. So of course we have state statutes that we have to follow. In our case, it's Hawaii Revised Statute 269, which is basically that's the PUC's mandate. And that's updated pretty much every year by our legislators. They do touch that, those statutes. And those we have to follow to the tee. And if we don't, we typically end up in the Supreme Court. So it's not a something that you wanna mess up on. So we really do, those lawyers that we employ at the PUC are really good. They know their statutes. They know the rules and regulations, including the administrative rules. The PUC can make administrative rules and also does make changes to those rules, updates them to make sure that they're current. And then we set policies in terms of how we regulate the utilities, but we don't set state policies. For example, like Bayes. I was wondering about that. Yeah, like the renewable portfolio standard, that would be a state energy policy that we wouldn't actually have anything to do with. But we would set policies saying, like net metering, for example, that would be a policy requiring the utility to carry out net metering. So those are the types of policies and standards. Also interconnection standards for renewable energy assets that are going on and distributed on homes and businesses. Right, so let's move on to the next slide. And we'll talk a little bit more about what it does not regulate. So what does it not regulate? We don't do the Honolulu Board of Water Supply or the bus, which is interesting because a lot of our motor carriers are, they're buses, they carry tourists around, but the city-owned buses is not in our jurisdiction and same with the Board of Water Supply. So there's a resource on the PUC's website. If you click on reports on the PUC's website, you can find all the annual reports from decades they come back. And they have a lot of information about the PUC and what it does do and what it doesn't do. So let's talk a little bit more about the public utilities. So this is a hard to read the slide to get on your side, but you know what inside out. So why don't you just give us a run-through on this one? Sure, sure. So when we think about energy, we often think about electricity, but we also need to consider gas. So we have Hawaii gas in the state of Hawaii. They provide propane typically to the neighbor islands, which is not regulated, but the natural gas is regulated and that's on the island of Oahu. So the electric utilities are on the big island and then on Maui, which covers Malachi, Lanai and Maui, and then we have Oahu. There's also KIUC, this Kauai island, utility company, yes. So, and they are of course under our jurisdiction, but they also have their own board of directors. So they're not so heavily regulated as the other, as the HIKO companies would be. And why is that? Why are they, because HIKO has the board of directors. You know, what's the theory behind that? So they're municipal, so they're not municipal. They're a co-op and that co-op means that they're owned by the residents of Kauai. They vote in, they elect people to represent them from their districts that will make decisions about the course and direction of the utility. And so because they have that framework in place, they don't need the same oversight because they literally are for the people, of the people. And it's just a very different business model. So the KIUC doesn't give out dividends like a publicly owned company like the HIKO companies. That's correct, but what they do do is if there is overpayments, so if they overcollect on the revenue requirement, they will actually offer bill credits and provide bill credits back to the residents because they are a not-for-profit entity, which is extremely different than the HIKO companies, which are definitely an investor owned utility, which means that they are a for-profit and they do provide dividends and have shareholders and that they answer to their board. So it's a very different business model. The majority of the entities that we regulate are mover carriers and those are tour buses. As long as there's seven seats, if that's the case. Oh really? Is that the cut-off? Yeah, that's the cut-off. Seven seats or more and then you need to be regulated by the PUC so you do have to actually come in for a license in order to do business in the state of Hawaii. In our lineup to the show, you talked about actual enforcement. You actually have PUC people that go inspectors and so what are they looking for when an inspector goes out and inspects a motor carrier? So they'd be looking for like tax, like there's motor carriers that don't have, you mentioned earlier in the show, the PUC on the back of the buses and the cars, that there are no labels or signs that are indicating that they are actually registered with the PUC. They would of course write them a citation for not coming in and applying for a business license or basically the right to do business. And one thing we ran into also during my tenure was dumping. So there was actually, there were motor carriers that were actually dumping waste into areas that were not, it wasn't appropriate. So they were cited as well. So it can be people that are moving companies that are getting rid of debris, that are doing it in an improper way. And so the PUC actually enforces compliance with those types of situations. So how do you do that? I mean, do you have a guy trolling along behind in a car and a little bit of subterfuge here, like a pie that I? Kind of. So the investigators come over to the neighbor islands usually at least once a month. So they'll pay a visit to each island once a month. And they do, they'll kind of park and it's in particular at popular tour spots and wait and just watch. And we also receive complaints. So if there are complaints from the general public that say, you know, this moving company, you know, take care of me.  Yeah, are they doing their business correctly? Then, and those public complaints we take seriously and we do look into those. And so in the case of the dumping, that was one of the, actually a public complaint. So we had to go in and look into that.  And then there's also just sort of that, you know, looking and waiting for it. I'm just kind of curious, like how many, how many of these investigators do you have? I believe there's three. Okay. Yeah, so not many. Okay. Okay, so let's move on. Slide down, we'll finally get there. Yes. So basically traditional utility regulation has been, as I mentioned earlier, we look at major projects. So capital investment projects, long-term plans. So like in integrative resource planning, so like how they're going to procure energy in the future, how they plan on implementing customer programs. And then also most importantly is rate cases. That's the traditional model of utilities. And we also implement energy policy directives, which is, you know, our renewable portfolio standards and our net zero carbon goals and our energy efficiency goals that we have for 2030. So we have quite a few policy directives from the legislature that we must carry out. And then the PUC also leads several programs, including the public benefit fee administrator, which is our energy efficiency program in the state of Hawaii energy. And then also a long call center. So call before you dig. That's what you'll see. Yeah. So I'm kind of curious, how to keep track of all this? I mean, it seems like there's hundreds and hundreds of issues and subjects that you have to control. You have some master computer system or how does that work? So the document management system is pretty much the main repository for all of the work that we do. And the organization of that information is actually quite disastrous because there is so much going on. It's difficult to keep tabs on everything that's happening. And in particular in the compliance section, the commissioners can get pretty far from that, you know, because they just sort of go on and do the business and, you know, we only are notified when there's something that's the rye. So typically those motor carriers are kind of off the, they don't receive the same level of attention as you would with perhaps the HECO companies. So the majority of the attention goes to the HECO companies. That's like where I think the commission spends 60% of its time, if not more. So does each commissioner have its own subject area? You divide all this stuff up among the commissioners and so you get some dockets that you're in charge of? Yep, absolutely. I kind of like the Supreme Court and then you all come together and meet and then vote. Is that how it works? That's how it works, exactly. So that's actually something we implemented when I was there because I was like, this is crazy. How are we not doing some sort of assigned commissioner to each of these dockets? And which worked really well for me because I focus on, you know, demand side. So what's behind the meter? What's happening in the customer home? That's really my area of expertise. So I was able to take on all of the dockets and proceedings that were focused on that. Whereas the other, for example, the old chair and the chair that's not there now, rate cases were their number one priority and that's where they focused their attention. So we did divide and conquer and then bring back that information. So we meet with the teams and then come back and provide information to the other commissioners so that we were more efficient and effective in getting our orders out. OK, so let's just shoot through to where we're getting, we're actually almost out of time. I know it was amazing. So I want to shoot to slide 10. I'm going to bypass the traditional role in the rate case slide. Let's go to slide 10. Yes, I wanted to give everybody an idea of how big these dockets and the files and the workload that's on a commissioner. So what are we seeing here? It looks like a lot of reading. Yeah, it is a lot of reading. So this is a HECO rate case. This is the binders, the first binder there is basically the application. And then all of the remaining binders are testimony from different experts and analysis that's been completed and reports that they've done that support their position in the application. So you have to understand who's making what arguments we need to be able to dig into the numbers and understand where those investments are going. And so it is a tremendous amount of reading. Each one of those binders holds at least 500 pages. So a rate case could be easily just thousands of pages. So it's, yeah, and that on top of all the other reading has a lot of fun. Yeah, and then you've got to lug all that back. You've got it all online, so you don't have to lug all these books back to line and to read them at night. Thank you, gosh. Yeah, exactly. So let's go to the next slide, which is talk a little bit about the customer programs. So we're going to have to go through the last two or three slides pretty quickly here. Yeah, so the PUC does direct the companies and all the companies that we regulate to and develop customer-facing programs. This includes distributed generation, so like solar plus batteries. There's also demand response programs. We authorize technology incentives. So for example, batteries, battery bonus programs, which we just are wrapping up now. And then also time abuse rates, which are going to be implemented in 2024 for the state of Hawaii. The EV Charter Rebae Program, the PUC was tasked with taking over that. And we have Hawaii Energy, which is the energy efficiency administrator administering those rebates as well. So I wanted to talk the next, let's throw up the next slide, 12. Let's talk a little bit about Hawaii Energy, because that's a really important program that a lot of people probably could interface with if they knew a little bit more about it, because they actually hand out money. They do. They do. And good money at that. So they have several programs.  They have larger scale projects, such as the Ocean Cooling AC initiative that's been on the books for, I think, 15 years or something. Yeah, I understand. So they are champions that are out there every day, basically providing rebates to our customers throughout the state of Hawaii for improving their energy, people's energy consumption. And so Hawaii Energy is really kind of the face, if you will, of the PUC and of public-facing programs. So they are just a great ally. I have always considered them our right hand, and they tremendous work. They meet every bit of their goals in terms of just offering incentives to customers that produce those energy savings that are so necessary for us to meet our energy goals. Particularly meeting equity requirements for the low income people. If you have to change your refrigerator or whatever upgrade, they have grants that actually help you pay for that. So I'm planning to have them. I think I'm trying to get them on my next show. So we can talk a little bit more about that. But yeah, it's a fantastic program, and they're doing such a good job. So let's just go to the next slide, slide 13. We have two slides to go. So I'm trying to raise through this. Absolutely, no worries. So as I mentioned earlier, we have our renewable goals. We have the RPS. We also have a carbon neutrality goal now. We have energy efficiency goals that we need to meet. And the PUC is really kind of the fire under the feet for a lot of these entities to basically carry out those mandates. And then another huge initiative was our utility scale renewable procurement process, which is a competitive bidding process. And so for my, when I'm counting, we have well over 300 megawatts of installed solar that's been approved by the PUC, as well as over one gigawatt of storage. So that's so far on the books. And we're already moving into round three of those RFPs. So that will actually extend and create a greater pool of resources available to us to meet our renewable polio standards and our renewable goals. So we've also approved aggregators for demand response programs. And those have been competitively bid as well. So we're trying to bring competition into the market so that we're not dealing with such a static, monopoly status. Instead, we're really encouraging competition. Yeah, like you said, you need all those 60 people to analyze all these programs because they're high value and they're supposed to last 25 or 30 years. And it's a huge economic impact on the state. So Jennifer, we've gone through this whole program. Yes. And now I'll just throw up the last slide, last slide so people know how to get ahold of Jennifer. Yes. There you go. There she is. Yay. And we put her phone number in there. So we're gonna wrap it up now. And so we've been leaving really, but they're even watching Hawaii to stay to clean energy on Think Tech Hawaii and talking story with Jennifer Potter, a former PUC commissioner. And today we've been talking story about the PUC's role in implementing Hawaii's energy policies. And most importantly, how the PUC helps protect you, the general public. So thank you Jennifer for sharing this knowledge with us and thank you for your many years of dedicated service as a PUC commissioner. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me, Mitch. It's been a pleasure to talk story with you. It's great. And thanks to our viewers for tuning in. I'm Mitch Ewan. We'll be back in two weeks with another edition of Hawaii, the state of clean energy. 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