Welcome back to Think Tech. Here we are in Honolulu doing community matters on a given Thursday and we have a special guest from California. He is a human resources guru if you don't mind me saying that. That's Rex Connor. Welcome to the show Rex. Thank you James glad to be here. Yeah I'd like to talk about your book today. I'd like to talk about human resources. I'd like to talk about the Millennials in the workplace and how to create a workplace that engages people and gives them gratification and you know it makes maximum productivity. So let's start first about your book. Tell us about your book. The book's called What if Common Sense was Common Practice in Business and I tried to make it an easy read. There are Dilbert comics in it because Dilbert points out the fact if you're familiar with those comics that we just violate common sense all of the time in the workplace. And so my hope with the book is that people will feel validated that you know this this really is messed up and I wanted to give them hope that I can do something about it. Yeah that would be great. And I think a lot of people don't know they just cruise through it and try to go by the seat of their pants without thinking of the basic principles. So let's talk about how the workplace has changed in the last 10 years. Because 10 years ago there were no Millennials but now we have Millennials and maybe in some ways they are the most important people in the workplace. They are the ones you want to hold on to at the same time they want to leave. They always wanted to go from gig to gig. So you know what's the workplace like. Let's let's address that first. Well statistically they are they do like to change jobs. I don't think they're different creatures from from the rest of the humanoids on the planet. What they want isn't a lot different than what all this one. They're just more likely to seeing take this job and shove it and move on take their talents elsewhere than maybe their older counterparts. My generation grew up trying to stay with a company for a long time. They don't have that same same value. That certainly doesn't make them any less valuable. We certainly want to retain the people that have the skills to do the job. And a lot of times that's a couple Millennials working for me. But doesn't that reflect the notion that you know the move on philosophy the move on approach and then reflect the notion of a lack of loyalty. You know in earlier generations maybe mine yours for one reason or another. Maybe it was sometimes more than spiritual more than philosophical. But at least in those days it seems like to me there was a great amount of loyalty. Maybe is loyalty changed now. Maybe what has changed is the Millennials look at us their parents and they say you know what loyalty goes both ways. The company needs to be loyal to the to the employee as well as the other way around. And you see changes in things like retirement plans where back in the day a lot of retirement plans were well if you stick with us for 20 years will pay you a certain amount of money. And now we've gone to the fixed from fixed benefit to just OK well if you contribute to it when you leave you can take the money with you. That's a subtle shift. But it's an example of maybe that maybe Millennials are looking at saying well companies aren't loyal to me. Why do I owe them owe them loyalty if they aren't loyal to me. So that can go both ways. Yeah. Well so when you have a millennial and I want to distinguish them in all capacities but you would have what do you what do you do to treat them special. What do you do to treat them you know in a way so that they you can achieve this mutual loyalty you're just talking about. Well I don't. That's where I think Millennials aren't completely different in what they're looking for. All of us want to feel like we're contributing to the job. All of us feel like want to feel like we're being valued. And where that falls short in the job not just for Millennials but for all of us is when I'm I'm part of a subjective process when my evaluations are subjective. You know they're open to interpretation and I interpret them differently than the boss. You know the boss is going to win. And so regardless of what generation you're in you don't like that that subjectivity in the work processes. So if you can take the subjectivity out of the work processes so everyone knows for example how you're going to be evaluated exactly what the job supposed to be exactly what the outcome should be how I'm going to get paid how I qualify for pay raises. That's going to go a long way to retaining not only Millennials but all of us. Yeah to make it objective instead of subjective. You know it comes to mind when when you talk about that I had a case actually reporting job in which involved a naval investigation of an accident at sea and it was a nuclear submarine involved and one of the issues was whether the captain of the submarine had created a work environment in the control room of the submarine that was appropriate and it was not likely to result in accidents. In this case it was a horrendous accident and one of the points that the board of investigation took upon when they investigated this and what they found in the result of their investigation was that the captain had not achieved a climate a collaborative climate. And that means that the individuals in the control room should be listened to should be heard and that the captain should have been asking them for their opinion should have been taking their advice or at least considering their advice. And he didn't do that. It was a you know it was a vertical a vertical kind of arrangement instead of a horizontal one. And you can't afford that in a mission critical control room. And I wonder if that kind of thing is relevant to what you're talking about. You know Jay I think it really is. I think that's of course an extreme example when you're talking about a nuclear submarine and people's lives that are under water that that's a job that a lot of us wouldn't wouldn't relish. And of course the results of errors there are much more dramatic than they are in my workplace. But the concept like you're saying is is the same. Everyone needs to be able to communicate clearly especially in their area of expertise. And I run a small company. I don't have expertise in all the areas of my company. And so I have people that are a lot smarter than me in a lot of different areas. And even if I've done that job before even if I have expertise in that area someone that's current in it I need to listen to them. Most importantly the communication needs to be clear enough where they can feel safe in clarifying my fuzzy direction my fuzzy terminology. Terminology. My subjective. Well that's exactly what happened in the nuclear submarine. The individuals the crew members in the command in the control room were not. I mean in fact by virtue of a third party investigation they were not they did not feel free to communicate their concern about this that the other thing. And as a result the captain was was doing his own thinking alone. And of course you know what it suggests is you've got to communicate to your crew that they're free in fact more than free they to save everyone's life they have an obligation to talk to you to tell you that you may be wrong to tell you that you may want to consider other factors. And I think that probably goes in a lot of businesses. It's not that they don't want to it's that you have to affirmatively encourage them to do that. You have to teach them to do that. And this goes to I know a part of your book is about training. So how do you train people to speak up to provide their input to make to watch your back for you to watch your back. That's what happened here. They didn't watch his back. I'm not sure that's a training issue as much as it's a trust issue. And I don't know that you can that you need to train that that's a trusting is a skill we all have when we choose to to award it to someone. So it's really a matter of clarifying what everyone's roles are and what the communication is. And it's really creating the environment. And you're right Jay this is a top down requirement. It's creating an environment where it's safe to clarify communication. And that's what people need. They just need to know that when something is open to interpretation. I need I am safe to ask for clarification. There is a process you can use to do that. But part of it is you have to be safe to do it. I know I've I've had situations where I tried to clarify with my boss some directive they've given me in those conversations to not end well. In this case it didn't end well either. There was loss of life involved. But you know I just wonder then. OK so it may not be involved in a specific training. But how important is the training. I understand you've got to have a language a language of communication. And from the top down you've got to talk in certain terms and certainly go so that there's no ambiguity. You know you want it to be very clear what you mean and how you feel about them and how you want them to feel about you. But how does that wrap around in the training aspect. Well training is is just one part of the equation but the bottom line principles are the same. In training you need to take out all the subjectivity. That's been done in the training realm very effectively by the pioneers of the performance based training that is so prevalent today. And I happen to represent the products and the work of one of those pioneers Dr. Robert Meagher. And the real secret sauce in his methodology is to take all of that ambiguity all that subjectivity out of training and to make sure it's completely clear that language you're talking about Jay we call it common performance language where everyone talks about the way humans perform. They talk about it in very clear observable performances. They don't use what he calls fuzzies or fuzzy language like you need to be a team player. You need to take some initiative. You need to have business accurate. Those are all fuzzies and you can translate. There's a way to translate those fuzzies into observable performances. That same language can spread from training to the recruiting process to the business. Business processes especially the evaluations on the business. Well may I ask you for some examples of that. Because you know there are a lot of standard phrases that people use. I recognize that and they feel that these phrases you know the the boss feels that these phrases can note you know the right principles. But I agree you've got to be you got to have examples you've got to be detailed. You got to find a way to actually communicate what's on your mind. So that the other fellow understands what you're really thinking. So give us some examples of how you would you know how you would flesh out the notion of you got to be a team player. What would you say. Let me give you a very personal example. But I hope what's happening during this is all your viewers are saying oh I've been in that situation and they're they're reviewing their own example. But the aforementioned conversation with the boss that didn't go well was when the boss brought me in for my annual evaluation. And I was expecting to you know have phrases heaped on me because of what I was doing is saving me millions of dollars. He said I'm giving you the minimum raise I can because you just aren't a team player. I said how am I not a team player. I recruited the team. I train the team. I you know implement. I work with the team. How am I not a team player. He said well that's my team now. I said well of course it's your team. You're the boss. But how am I not a team player. And then I then I realized in this process I mentioned to translate fuzzy communication. I said fair enough boss. But when I'm being a team player what are you observing me do. And this conversation started out pretty well. He said well first of all you're coming to team meetings on time. I said fair enough second of all you aren't rolling your eyes when your team members speak. So OK yeah fair enough. What else boss. And at this point he started getting defensive like I'm trying to pin him down and argue against him. And that's why this process while it's a simple and a good process it still takes tack timing diplomacy that maybe I didn't have at the time. And he just kind of dismissed me with well that's enough you should know when you're a team player or not. And so that particular instance maybe I shouldn't use a bad example. But that one didn't end well. But the idea is at the end of your job. Basically it was I was forced out of that job. That was the beginning of the. Sorry to use a bad example but as a clear example. I never found out what being a team player meant to the boss. And that's why I was I was making the point earlier in the summer in example. That conversation you have to be safe to have that conversation. It needs to be allowed. It needs to be part of the culture. So a boss cannot feel threatened. They can say oh yeah you're right I need to communicate this more clearly. Let me give you some more observable performances. To describe what I'm talking about. Yeah let me let me take that a step further and say suppose the individual not you but somebody in your shoes in that circumstance actually didn't like the boss. Actually was a negative person. Actually was a terrible employee. And you know and you know there are those around. That's always going to be the human condition.  And then that can be that can lead to a problem but another kind can it. Certainly certainly there in the human experience there are all sorts of mine fields especially in this area of trying to clarify communication with people that aren't used to it. Or people that don't want to. But I actually did and it helped for a little while in this case is I went to a co-worker. Who the boss really liked they spoke the same language I spoke a different language. And I use this co-worker as a translator between me and the boss I said you know the boss says I'm not a team player what's the boss saying. What should I be doing this observable. And she straightened me out quite a bit. While you do this this and this he hates that kind of stuff. I didn't recognize I was doing it it was part of me and so. It helps sometimes to have a translator. In the work. Yeah sure. But at the end of the day you want to have a personal relationship with everyone you know I remember there was one CEO here in Honolulu. He knew that the name of every employee in the company and it was a big company. He knew the name of every wife of every employee and furthermore he prided himself on naming the name of the dog of each employee if there was one or the children. Notice I mentioned dogs first. But how important is it to have a familiarity type relationship. With the people involved. Jay don't we all know as a common sense that business is all about people. It's all about relationships. That is common sense that's why we all scratch our heads when we work for a dictator. Or we work for someone that doesn't care about people. Or those people get promoted to people positions. I'm not saying those people are bad there are a lot of people that don't want to deal with people. Let them deal with what they enjoy dealing with. I have a person in my own company that does not want to deal with customer service. Because she doesn't like it and she knows she's terrible at it. And she says don't put me in a customer service don't put me in a role where I have to pacify a customer. I will not do it. So let's get the people in the position but going back to your point. It is all about relationships. Yeah. But what strikes me from what you say is that sometimes. It's around pegging a square hole. In other words the person was hired and gauged to do one job but we all find out going down the path that maybe that's not the best job for that person. In terms of skill or aptitude in terms of taste what have you there's no accounting for taste. And then you're in a moment of trying to figure out how to improve that situation. And I suppose you can change the job. Or I suppose you can change the person with some other person. You know in a small company you've got to get the job done somehow.  How do you alleviate that problem and still get the job done. Well Jane that's so critical for small companies because you don't have a lot of time you don't have a lot of resources. I faced that in my small company recently I had you know a man blesses are very talented in the field he was in and I thought that translated by job title to the position I put him in my company. And it did by job title it did not translate by skill. And we spent a lot of time and frankly that was a lot of money trying to find the right skill set that he had that could contribute to the business. And eventually he opted out and I use him as a contractor now for very specific skills that he has. But he's no longer in the position that he was in that's just the reality of business. It ties in real well I appreciate the segue to the subtitle in my book. Don't expect fish to climb trees. Don't hire someone to do a job. And I never knew. That comes from that quote that we all love Albert Einstein quotes and his quote was everybody's a genius. But when you evaluate a fish on its ability to climb a tree it's going to live its whole life thinking that it's stupid. And so my book has a whole chapter on how do you fit a the job requirements with a person skill set and how do you avoid mismatching those because we've all seen the results of mismatching just like my example. And I wrote the book and made that mistake of not not matching the skill in my hurry and a small business get someone in here the job title sounds the same. That was all the violation of chapter two of my book. Let's talk about job titles. You mentioned that job titles are very important for you know everybody understanding what the name of the game is and maybe gratification to it's a it's a stroke for sure or maybe the other side. It's a problem if you use the wrong job title. So we've got any advice about how to select a job title and interestingly enough how to change a job title. Since I run the business I the purview of changing which I do liberally and I use job titles just the way you said Jay sometimes the person that's important to them and the person I hired recently to take the place of the baby boomer that I mentioned she's a millennial and she was all about the job title. I said well what job title do you want. And she gave me one you know her highness of something and I said well let's choose one that will communicate to our clients what you do. So it's really a negotiation between I think between first of all I don't limit myself to the traditional job structures or titles. But I want the right combination that honors the skills that that the person has while communicating to my clients to my target population not the entire world just to my clients. What they can expect from that job position from that person that has that position. So really it's a negotiation. Yeah very interesting that you know some of these tech companies the entrepreneurial companies they come up with job titles you never heard before chief chief thinker or something like that. It's very personal. Say it is and might you know I had the title lead partner. I own the company. I co-founded it but the other person isn't an active member of the company. You know a lot of people call that position CEO or president. Whatever I like lead partner because that's what I want everyone in my organization to feel like I want them all to feel like partners. And I encourage them to have partner in their title to whatever it is. Not all of them do. But I like it to be descriptive. Yeah it's part of the culture. I like creativity. Well creativity is a great culture to have because creativity goes down a path toward engaging people and engaging people means they're more productive. You know I wanted to talk about productivity. We've had a lot of talk here in Honolulu we've had a number of programs and events lately about not necessarily about the millennials or limited to the millennials but about the you know the senior crowd and there are people in the community and in fact in positions of official power who would like to see more elders hired after retirement brought back into the workforce. And I wonder if you have any advice on how to deal with them. It's a good idea. Do you have to deal with them differently. How do you compare dealing with a millennial and dealing with an elder senior person. Yes I do have some advice and may not be what you're looking for or popular for. In my business and this is why I recommend to others.  I don't hire activists for their particular situation. I think we should do the hiring by skills and matching the skills that the job requires with the skills of the person in the middle and long term that works out best. And senior people have a tremendous amount of skills. Especially if you look at the entirety of a job. You know we say that well millennials have the technology background. They'll learn the technology quickly. Very true. And we need we need those skills too. But let's not forget all the soft skills all the people skills because we just said Jay that business is about relationships. It's about people. Good heavens there are a lot of senior people that have some very rich experience in relationships that millennials don't have. I wish I could remember the name of the movie. I'm sorry I can't. But recently I think it was the intern with anyway an older guy goes in the workplace with all these millennials. You know at first no one wants to work with him because he's old he doesn't have the same skill set. But he has so much experience so much wisdom with people pretty soon everyone wants him wants his advice. So let's let's just broaden our expectations to include soft skills and people skills and then get the right person in that job that has the right combination. Yeah I certainly agree. And I I practiced law for a long time and to tell you right in the law firm I was involved we found that somebody with life experience was valuable if for no other reason than the life experience. It's that sense of judgment that sense of dealing with dealing with situations. But let me ask you this you know training and training is an underscore here because you you you like skills but but many times you can't find someone with the exact skill you want. So you have to put that in focus with training. You have to bring whoever it is into the specific you know skill that you need for your company. And I wonder what role training plays how you organize it how how you how you put it in the daily schedule and how you treat the notion of cross training training a little broader than you might you know so somebody is doing job A somebody doing job B but you give training that actually teaches B about what A is doing. Do you do that? What's the what's the benefit what's the detriment of training and how much I know this is multiple compound question. How much training do you want to give how much time do you want to spend on training when you still have the job to do. That is a good way to ask the question how much training when you still have a job to do. And in what I'm recommend I'm recommending you don't isolate training you don't isolate recruiting and you don't isolate employee development. It's all the same subject it should be part of one seamless people performance system built on the same skills that you identified when you built a performance based job description. And so training is near and dear to my heart but you can't if you keep it isolated in the stove pipes of recruiting training development you will never get the full impact you'll never answer the question you're asking about how much training do you do. You do exactly what's required by your people performance system. And part of that is developing people for new jobs it's career mapping it's succession plan. It's all the same subject if you start out by identifying what a confident performer does in the workplace for each job and you build performance objectives around all of that for all the job descriptions you have a map that's available to everyone to say what skills each position needs. So if you're interested in a new position or grooming someone for a new position you know exactly what skills they need to develop and can include that in their development. But you've hired the right person for a job for those skills you train the exact skills you need for that job you identify and you evaluate based on those skills it's all one system. Well you know sometimes you know in my experience you bring someone from the outside in and you you hire an official trainer and you have this trainer stand at the head of the class with a power point and a blackboard and train as if you were in school back in school. Sometimes and in my law firm this was really you know what we did most of time if not all the time we had somebody in the group some lawyer some staff person some administrative person would would stand up in-house in-house training and share what that person was doing with everyone else. So everyone knew what that person was doing everyone learned the lessons that person had learned even if they were hard lessons and that person had the chance to express himself or herself and feel good about it. So it was all a win win win win win. But I'm wondering you know what where you make that choice at least in your view whether to train in-house or hire somebody to come from outside and train. Well people I've been around the the training industry now for more than 20 years and what you describe is a subject matter expert running the training and the acronym of course is SME or SME that's a common common phrase and what you describe is subjected to SME disease where the SME gets up gives a lot of information but I recommend is what my mentor Dr. Robert Mayer that I mentioned before his focus in this whole people human performance arena his focus is on performance based training and that is based on training in Maygerville where he resides training means a new skill it doesn't mean information and so there is a scientific way Mayger was a scientist he came into the corporate training realm and looked around and said you people are messed up you're trying to do training like they do in school where you dump a lot of information on someone and hope that somewhere someday they'll be able to apply it he said that's not how the human brain works that's not science the scientific way to do this is to go out on the job evaluate what a confident performer does and build backwards like reverse engineering and make sure in the training environment they're developing those specific skills and that they are demonstrating those skills before they leave training so when they get on the job they can perform on day one and I'll tell you Jay being in more than 50 companies in the last couple of decades that's not common practice I hope when I said it sounds like common sense but it's not common practice but there's a method they're doing they're doing it when you do it the results are spectacular they aren't good they aren't better than average the results are spectacular good advice I'm a proponent of this performance-based training good advice Rex Connor a human resources guru written a book and has given us some good advice today thank you so much Rex for appearing on Think Tech on Community Matters we hope to talk to you again soon and as you said it's all about common sense Aloha thank you


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Good day again everyone and welcome to the program agriculture on the move my name is Philip Sidney your host today we will continue to sensitize the public you Joe public and also the farmers the deadly disease that is on the horizon we have spoken about it it's called the TR4 Tropical Race 4 it's a Fusarium Wilt disease and it can wipe out the entire banana industry it attacks all the moosa species which is banana, plantain, helicone any related family to the moosa species it can wipe out our banana industry can be no more and with me today is Mr TR4 himself Mr Winston Elliott who is the chair of the communication committee to actually sensitize the public as far as TR4 is concerned Welcome to the program Mr Elliott Thank you Mr Sidney, thank you for having me here this afternoon Great I know you have done a lot of work since that committee organized it was paid by the minister for agriculture who saw the need and the urgency to sensitize the public because that disease definitely if it hits St Lucia and I want to assure people the disease is not here yet and that is why we need to sensitize the public to let you know about that disease and what it can do so tell us what has to the sensitization program and tell St Lucia what is TR4 Well firstly we need to highlight what TR4 is TR4 is a soil-borne fungus this fungus has the capacity to enter the roots of a banana plant the plant in plant a macabre plant and it actually stops the plant from current physiological functions in so doing it can it will eventually kill the plant most plants that it attacks it eventually kills the plant the plant does not have the capacity to withstand that fungus and when it destroys the plant we have to think about the livelihoods we have to look at the bigger picture of what can happen if TR4 are to reach in St Lucia there are many livelihoods there are many people that depend on the banana industry and the ministry has founded a proactive approach in sensitizing farmers, public stakeholders at large on TR4 and what we can do to prevent TR4 from reaching our shores or in the unwanted event that TR4 has to reach St Lucia we have early detection and we can contain this disease as early as possible Let's go into the physiological action of the plant when TR4 hits it affects the vascular bundles the xylem and the fluem and prevents food and water from being uptick to give your fruit. Is that so? What happens that the fungus enters through the roots of the plant it moves through transpiration through the various parts of the plant mostly the xylem vessels and the plant tends to want to react because it feels there is something foreign and when the plant tries to stop that fungus from going further in the process it cannot transport water and nutrients to the upper parts of the plant to make fruits or to give us a bunch and in so doing this tiffles the plant of water and nutrients and that's where we end up seeing symptoms like wilting yellowing of leaves and the plant dies So there is no cure once that plant is attacked There is absolutely no cure for TR4 right now there are some measures in place like trying to plant the resistant varieties but there are a whole sort of range of challenges with resistant varieties like you might get a fruit that by not taste very well it might take very long you might get a fruit that is not marketable that you can pack in a lunch kit or that might be very tasty there are a lot of challenges but there are no carbon dish right now that is resistant to TR4 Alright, so since that program began and you the chair for that committee I know you have done a lot of work in terms of sensitization to the public what have you done thus far and where you are at this point Well, initially since we are trying to push prevention as much as possible we thought it was necessary to commence with the ports the seaports, the airports so we began sensitization with our stakeholders of Slasper we have met with the customs officials customs officers custom front line staff both in the north and in the south part of this the primary producers, the farmers we have had a series of meetings stretching from Babuno, Soufre you name it, throughout the eight agricultural regions we have had farmer meetings island wide not just presenting to the farmers but this is also a forum that we can consult with our farmers our stakeholders get their take, get their feelings, get their feedback their feedback is extremely important, it's not just about presenting to them, it has to be a participatory approach and we have embraced the feedback that we have gotten from our various stakeholders to improve the plan that we have in sensitizing and carrying out awareness island wide What is the feedback you got from the farmers and the other stakeholders The feedback has been very encouraging a lot of the farmers have felt like hey, tell us what symptoms we have to look out for what is necessary, how can we play our part we encourage farmers to always monitor their farms if you see something that is strange do not take a sample and say you are going to bring it first contact your extension officer they are banana officers, they are extension officers and we come in and we take a visit we do a field visit we will take samples if it is necessary and we can guide you and the response has been extremely overwhelming the stakeholders we have had the telecommunication companies have agreed to come on board we are going to be sending out text messages we are also on social media the response has been extremely encouraging and we look forward to continuing that kind of dialogue with our various stakeholders Say that how close is in terms of proximity country wise is that disease to Saint Lucia well we need to look back to see where the disease has been in 1970 TR4 was in Asia and then by 2014 it had moved to Africa in 2019 it had moved to Latin America and up to January of this year it was reported in Venezuela so this disease is really close to us this is why the ministry has found it absolutely necessary to take a proactive approach and promote prevention prevention for emphasis I repeat prevention and this is why you are going to be seen us out there we continue doing radio programs we are going to reach out to the school school has just reopened and we are going to be continuing with our TV newspaper releases and so on do you all have to interact with the places where the disease is now prevalent what are they doing what have they done thus far the ministry of agriculture is part of a larger body of the FAO where we collaborative those kind of agencies and we have literature we have information as to what signs what symptoms they have seen when they have when the disease has been present there so we just trying to put measures in place in the process of doing a survey that we know in the event the disease which is here we know what we need to do early detection that is what is really important and to push prevention are you all in touch with Seurat are you all working in close proximity with Seurat we work close with Seurat up to recently Seurat was here and we in close dialogue with them we collaborate with in terms of if we have to get samples and doing early detection we work very closely with those agencies Seurat, EECA, FAO the University of the West Indies these are all agencies that we collaborate closely with okay what are you telling the public who is coming into St. Lucia in terms of plant quarantine to actually tell them do not bring plant and plant parts into St. Lucia especially the Musa species because they forget the other heliconeas they have a lovely flower some people like to put them in the carions and take to St. Lucia what are you telling those persons good question Mr Sidney well basically in terms of transportation of plant parts one of the things that we have realized about TR4 it's a disease that can be spread primarily by humans and we encourage persons to not to try and bring in not just about TR4 only but for safety of our our culture industry no plant parts that are not registered you need to go through the phytosanitary use the phytosanitary regulations to ensure whatever that you're bringing in that you have a certificate for soil can be one of the ways that TR4 can be transmitted from one country to another so somebody may have come from a farm in one of those Asian countries or Latin American countries that has been infected by TR4 or some other fungus or bacteria and we encourage people to work closely with us collaborate with us because if TR4 or any of those lethal pathogens have to reach our shores it can wipe out our entire agriculture industry there are many many persons that depend on the banana industry whether we talk about farmers we think about there's a small shop in the farming communities think of even think of the persons that sell bananas by the roadside to the tourists and depend on the tourist dollar the ripple impact of if we were to lose our banana industry is enormous and all of us each and every one of us have a significant role to play I don't think you have to go too far because a little hurricane or storm breaks go on the supermarket shops there are no bananas you go by the market in town you hardly find bananas so far less than TR4 very much so and we can look at that impact the price of banana has increased significantly think about plantings the drive of the ministry of agriculture is not only just to protect the livelihoods but we also looking at food security and a lot of people eat bananas a lot of people eat plantings if we had to have a difficulty in terms of if TR4 had to reach our shores and reach our farms it would be catastrophic now the other thing is that the role of the technical committee the TR4 communications committee is not to we do not want to cause any panic this is just to inform to educate people for us to be prepared to take the necessary corrective measures try not to bring in any planting material that we should not be bringing in somebody bringing a plant from let's say it can be Martinic it can be one of the neighboring islands because one of the really dangerous things about TR4 is that it has what we call a latency period and that is a period where the plant is infected but we cannot see any symptoms called asymptomatic now you might take a planting material you might say you don't see any symptoms on this plant but this one plant can have a huge ripple impact and destroy an entire industry so the latency period where we cannot see any visible symptoms can encourage us to say I'm going to take a chance but what about that plant being infected and it can infect one farm and the ripple impact to affect an entire industry that is the bigger picture that I would like us to be able to appreciate and I think that's well said well said there and I believe now is the time I mean like I said the impact of bananas on the supermarket shelves that you cannot find now just because of a little a little storm far less the TR4 if it hits so that tells a lot so in other words try not to bring anything any plant material go through your phytoscientific office to give you some guidance before you do this you import plants and you can import disease at the same time we do for our first break you are watching agriculture and the move stay tuned don't go away 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joined us we are talking about the tropical risk for disease as affecting bananas which we call in short TR4 and we are here with Mr Winston Elliott the man himself who is conducting and also sensitizing the public as far as that program is concerned one of the areas I think that's very important Mr Elliott that we need to speak about and we see it happen all the time I don't know what's happening at the port of entry when used vehicles are coming in we have tractors and loaders that use the vehicle not new coming in and the tires and other parts of the vehicle are loaded with soil what is in place to take care of that because don't forget that's a medium for transportation of the disease well what we have done is part of our consultation with the St. Lucia ANC we are collaborating with our quarantine department and any of those vehicles we are supposed to ensure that we have inspections that none of those vehicles should be coming any soil whatsoever because that can be a strong medium for the fungus being transmitted from one area to another so our quarantine is playing a strong role together with the slasper and our customs division so if that happens a car or vehicle is getting solution that's loaded with soil what do you all do we have to ensure that this vehicle does not leave the port unless it is properly sanitized and would have to put mechanisms in place to ensure that does not happen moving forward I remember when we began this task force we had in place foot baths at the various ports where is that at this point in time we are making some really good head we have already decided where the foot baths are going at both of our ports of entry and also at our ferry terminals we are looking at that we have already been in contact with the suppliers in Australia for the manufacture of those mats so we are making some good head way along the lines we have visited the various ports of entry and we intend to hopefully implement those very soon we have gotten some very good collaboration from Slasper on this initiative the task force is working full speed ahead on this and this is something that we making really good progress with this activity is really a collaborative activity and of course I'm sure the many stakeholders involved can you tell us who are your stakeholders involved in the programme we have a number of stakeholders like I said earlier on Slasper role is really key in terms of prevention we are talking about the ports of entry the air and the sea ports the customs roles is really important they play a major role we are looking at sensitising students because when students we go to the schools we tell the students about TR4 they go home and they tell their parents they re-emphasise the point that we are bringing across the farming community we have been working closely with the national fair trade organisation the banana exporters they are also part of our technical committee these are the core persons that make a part of our committee and our stakeholders but I need to also mention we have some other major stakeholders like Marci has come on board and said hey are we going to support you all of the way both of our telecommunication companies have come on board and said we are going to be assisting you you can use our social media we are going to give you some space on use our billboards Floor said we can use their billboards and we are going to be putting up some post some large billboards with TR4 information in the near future that is in the pipeline so you have got some really good support from those agencies in promoting TR4 great ok so moving forward what is the next step right now we are going to continue sensitization because sensitization is not just about hey this is what we are doing now we have to look at what we are doing tomorrow what we are doing next week what we are doing next year all of these play an integral role in sensitizing we have gotten a lot of feedback from the farming community people of saying hey what can I do how can I contribute we have a session with farmers in that community I have gotten a couple of calls from the school saying we would like you to come in and have a talk with our agricultural science students so it is ongoing and it is something that we consider is really important and we will be sending out various messages to keep the public sensitized because there are a lot of people that depend on the banana industry the planted industry and like I said earlier it is not just about people in terms of livelihoods that is significant but also food security plantain and bananas is a staple green figs is a huge part of our diet green fig and salt fish our national dish finger people that like their green figs and their backs we have pears those that like their green figs they have pears they have their little salad and it really contributes immensely that is why every one of us have a role to play that you travel in somewhere you do not try and stick in a plant that might come with a disease and we are not just talking about care for the citrus diseases the diseases that affect tomatoes, sweet peppers and like cucumbers all of us all of these are measures that we need to implement to ensure that we do not try to beat the system and just try to bring in one plant an entire industry it happened already many many times people sneaking in stuff and at the end of the day we do not know where the disease come from and that is why we need to be very very concerned about this not by the unparalleled team right? of course of course of course we need to stick in there and we need we need to on this would say So it's a baguette that's really important peel for us to try and appreciate Chopin-Sa from Vincent Lissie. Do you know about Chopin-Sa? Chopin-Sa is a very important product for us to try and appreciate Chopin-Sa. Chopin-Sa is a very important product for us to try and appreciate Chopin-Sa. Chopin-Sa is a very important product for us to try and appreciate Chopin-Sa. So it's a very important product for us to try and appreciate Chopin-Sa. Chopin-Sa is a very important product for us to try and appreciate Chopin-Sa. Chopin-Sa is a very important product for us to try and appreciate Chopin-Sa. Chopin-Sa is a very important product for us to try and appreciate Chopin-Sa. Chopin-Sa is a very important product for us to try and appreciate Chopin-Sa. Chopin-Sa is a very important product for us to try and appreciate Chopin-Sa. I was about to end the program because we have another minute left. Moving forward, like you said, you are continuing to work with the stakeholders to sensitize the public? Yes, the other thing I'd like to say, I'd like to express profound thanks to all of the stakeholders. How they have contributed, how they have embraced us, they have always been keen to support us, ask for information and to participate. The support we have gotten has been overwhelming and I encourage people to continue giving us that support because many livelihoods depend on the banana industry, food security is at stake, safeguarding this industry is paramount to many persons. So thank you very much Mr Sidney. Well, thank you for being here and continue doing the good work. I know you have done tremendously well, so continue doing the good work to sensitize the public. Thank you again. We have been watching agriculture in the move as you have heard. I was speaking to the man himself, the TR4 man, Mr Winston Elliott. And he's going to continue that program as he see fit with his committee to continue to sensitize Joe Blue as far as TR4 is concerned. Remember, agriculture is our business. Eat fresh, St. Lucia's best. I'm Philip Sidney saying goodbye and see you again. Thank you sir. Agriculture on the move. Agriculture on the move. Agriculture on the move. Agriculture on the move. Agriculture on the move. Agriculture on the move.


The game that has taken the nation by storm among us, you know, the sound it makes among us created in 2018, which is weird because it just started getting super popular now is one of the biggest games on YouTube right now if not the biggest game on YouTube. I think it's purely because of the state of the world right now and everybody trying to stay inside. It's a great game to play with friends because you need eight to 10 people to play it. Today we are looking at the memes of the game that the people love and the funny things that they make about the game that they love among us means we're looking at among us means Stop quoting Star Wars the movies suck. It's treason And everyone voted him off. Hell yeah. Imposter should be able to undo tasks like empty fuel tanks put leaves in the air filter or on a line engines. I mean that's kind of what sabotaging is there for. I did see Mika tweeted something about among us among us but eight imposters and two crew mates and the imposters have to find the two people that are actively secretly doing tasks and kill them.  I think that would be cool. I think that would be pretty nifty. When you had to vote your imposter brother out to not be sus. Yeah, we got one. Good job crew. Power of memes. Can we please vote imposter. I really want to have that screen saying imposter was the imposter. No, why you can't would be a funny meme imposter. Imposter was an imposter. There's a cutie among us and you're looking kind of sus. Someone is following you panic. Thank God he vented away calm. He vented away. I never I don't get imposter. What I do. I'm just bad at it.  We did it Patrick. We saved the city. Very true. Very true. Red yellow sus team had skipped not enough proof yellow next round. That's so true.  Electrical is not the most dangerous room. Vent connected with two other rooms. Dark corner behind the generator. Two long tasks. A maximum of four tasks. Sabotage door. Sabotage lights so you can attract crewmates in. Electrical is the most dangerous room.   Name another place on Skeld that is more dangerous than electrical. You can't. I also want I want more among us maps. I do. I do. Red is sus. Actual proof. Whoa. This is worthless. Marvel's Avengers $200 million budget. Huge voice over talent. Countless hours of development. Marketing on gum packs. Big commercials made by hundreds. Gamers among us. A two year old indie title made by three people. It's true. I love that games can get huge like that though. That a two year old game can suddenly just get huge and it's made by like three people. Also feel extremely bad for the people that made among us at the start when it started to really boom because there was issues and stuff as every game had. But they have a really, really, really, really, really small team and so they couldn't handle the volume.  Among us is a genuinely really fun game. Doctor we fix your broken neck card declines doctor snaps neck. Oh that's so sad. Are you winning son? Who's who's who's saying that? He's dead. He's dead. Me on med scan. People that thought I was sus. That's good. That's good. Who plays with visible tasks on them? Don't put on visible tasks and also make it so it doesn't confirm imposters because then you have to wait until the very end. I love that. I love that. I used to play with confirms on rookie mistake. Yeah, it's pretty true. This is pretty true. I like Mira or polis.  This is bread. He is always sus. He argues like Karen. He uses vocal language. He can't remember his test. Don't be like red. I've never, maybe I should play a couple of rounds of Among Us. I would just record it. I probably wouldn't stream it. But where I play on like random lobbies. Have they fixed the issue because I think I was going to do this at one point and people are like no it shows your IP. Or you can see people's IP or something. It would be kind of fun to play a few rounds of Among Us just on a random lobby and not with friends. See how it goes. The voting menu should show people's hats. That's true. Actually, I don't know. I started playing a lot more with an on voting on and I kind of like that. Schools, we don't give you that much work at the work. This is a perfect representation of homework for classrooms at schools. This real true. This is real true. Hope you like it. Spend some time copying these students.  Only space can save the future of mankind somewhere in space. Thousands upon thousands of bodies. The imposter racing you to the button after you see them vent. This was like the other night. It was either crispy or chrome. I can't remember who. But I saw them vent and I was just sprinting. You'll see it in an upcoming video. God, that was so much fun though. When you get killed by the imposter but you can still do tasks as a ghost. Oh no, anyway. But it sucks, you know. It's so nice being one of the last people alive. It's also the most stressful things. But you know, I don't want to get killed. There should be a workshop for custom kill animations and you should be able to choose the one you like to use. That would be cool. That would be really, really cool.  That would be cool.  Who's a bosser? It's red. It's orange. It's green. I was on call with a friend.  Yeah, I don't do that.  If I look over and somebody in chat is like, it's this person that's the imposter.  You just ruin the game. When that happens, I almost never vote them. Because I'm like, no, it's cheat. Imposter casually kills and leaves as if nothing happened. Me watching from security. I didn't vent. You don't have proof. Accuser. If red isn't, if it isn't red, vote me out next. That's so good. That is so, so good. If you have confirms on just, if you know that it's a person, just call a 50-50. And be like, hey, if it's not red, vote me out next then. Because then if they're like, well, no, that's dumb, then it's obviously them. He said you turned to the dark side and that you killed younglings. Pardon me, I was in mid by the whole time Obi-Wan is acting hella sus. Among us mixed with prequel memes. That is great. That is top-tier content. I do almost get card swipe done almost immediately. I don't want to brag, guys, but you know, I'm pretty good at the game. Why wouldn't you report? Why wouldn't you report? Why wouldn't you report? Why wouldn't you report?  Hacking Among Us is useless because it has no reward or level system. Yeah, actually. Do people hack in Among Us? That's so dumb. Why would you do that?  That's so dumb. Why would you do that? It's so pointless. That's cool. I hope that's real. People who say teal, cyan, and aqua. People who say lime. People who say light blue and light green. I always say cyan and light green. Well, I mean, I don't really say the colors ever because I'm always playing with friends. Sorry, you guys wouldn't get it. I saw brown squatting next to the body and he didn't report with paying homage to my fallen comrade. Nice. Nice. I like that. I like that. That's wholesome. Games on Mira HQ. Why is this shaking? Why is this post vibrating?  I found a cursed Reddit post. Okay, I'm going to end the video here. I'm worried about it. I'm worried you can read the mean by yourself, but I don't like that this Reddit post is vibrating. Thank you guys so much for watching this video. I've been having so much fun making videos and streaming and everything recently. And you guys have seemed to really love everything going on. So that's really, really cool and really sweet of you.  And there's been a lot of sponsored stuff going out recently. And I really appreciate you guys being so supportive of that. But when those plans were made months back, I didn't realize that everything, all the due dates for those were like kind of back to back to back. So apologies for all of the sponsored stuff recently. Thank you guys for understanding and being so chill about it. I just didn't really even realize. And then I was like, oh, these are all kind of supposed to come out at the same time. Whoopsies. Anyway, thank you guys so much for watching. Hope you enjoyed it. If you did, make sure to stop that like button right in the face. And I will see you guys in the next video. We're almost in 2 mil. We are so close. Thank you guys so much. I'll see you tomorrow. Bye.


So we are here in the size, size, size city with our dirties chicken tenders after three hours straight in class. But we are going to do a little college life Q&A, just talk, chill, answer guys' questions.  Should we introduce ourselves? Yeah, definitely. My name is Alec, I'm from New York City. I'm a sophomore in Pearson and I'm going to apply to be an ethics politician because I'm an economics major. So I'm not sure if I'll get in. Does he call the backup? He kind of stopped the backup, politicized the backup. Okay. Hi, I'm Carter. I'm a sophomore in Sabre from Long Island, New York and my major is cognitive science. Newly. If she gets in. Yeah, it's also an application major. Really? Mm-hmm. Hello, nice to have you here. Tommy, what's some enthusiasm? I'm a Pearson major, CS, hometown, Olympia, Washington. You guys know Tommy, he's been. I've been in some videos. Oh yeah. We've been in videos. In passing. Have you been in a video? I just came here from your last night at Yale last year. Yes, yes. What a night. That was a night. Alright, first question. How do you balance schoolwork with social life and without losing your mind? Simple. I don't. Take naps. Take naps. I wish I didn't. I know. I don't believe in taking naps. I don't believe in taking naps. Tommy, you took a nap this morning, dude. That's because I got like three hours of sleep. I'm still running off three and a half hours of sleep. We're going strong. I think that it's about like pretending that your work time is class time. Like, hey, these are two hours I spend in the library every Tuesday, Thursday, because I know I have it free. It's very regimented. Self-discipline is really important. Like if you know you're going out, one night you should probably get all your work done before that, and then convince yourself if you don't get the work done, you're not going out. That actually helps. Do you do that? I do do that. Wow. I never do that. I just learned a new thing. Interesting. It's cool. Things about cherishing the social time you do have. Even like quickly, when you're like going to the suite with your friends and like talking before bed, like counting that as social time keeps you sane. Yeah. You should like definitely incorporate so much social time. Can't you just be in the library all day long? No. Don't hang out with us. Don't study with friends. Don't study with Alex now. Don't study with Alex. I've studied with him like three times. I've gotten back in dust. Talks all three times. I can't study with other people at least. I get distracted. And then proceed to try and distract other people. Exactly. I want to join Yale that I'm only 11. We're just focused on school. Focus on school. Just focus on school. Don't even focus on school. I don't even think I was focusing on school when I was 11. Just become an interesting person. I think that this is the time to do that. Yeah, definitely. That's what Yale wants from you. A lot of smart people out there. Discover yourself. Yeah. Never need to discover it later. Multiple times.  I've never seen it. I've never seen it. My mom watches it. People like to pretend like me and my mom.  Because it's like the same relationship. But we've never seen it. So yeah, maybe we'll binge it. Binge a break. I guess I don't know. But then it's our hold, I guess. Do you have any tips for the college application process? Get your essays out as early as you can. Yeah, start early. Because you never know what you have the week it's due. And then you end up hating yourself because you have a lot of work to do. Or other things to prioritize. Start taking your standardized tests during your year. Or sophomore year. You really want to get ahead of it. If you think you can't do that. No, yeah. If you start your essays during the summer, then you won't have to worry about it when you actually have fall semester senior year. Which is kind of important. And kind of really, really busy too. Yeah. So you won't have time to do college apps. I ended up taking my standardized exams October of my senior year because I just happened to be on vacation or away every single other date that they were offering the exam. So, you know, follow the rules, but also like, don't stress out. You'll be fine. No. What's your favorite place on campus? Okay. Stacks. So cross campus. Between the two Berkeley had courts, there's the walkway going out of Sterling, and there's these two pillars that are like kind of like used as a railing, I guess, or something.  I pretend to do work, but I'm usually not doing work. But it's just like an optimal location on a nice study day whenever it is out on cross campus. Yeah. It's really nice. But there's only two, so it's kind of unfortunate. You gotta share. What do you like, Ella? I don't know. I don't have like a designated spot. I really like this place. It's a great place to work. Nice sofas. Otherwise, I just think Yale is generally really beautiful. I like the stacks. It's pretty private. Why do you like the stacks? Well, I made a treasure hunt there one day. Oh, I helped you with that. I remember that. What did you hide up there? Oh, there's a pond behind OML laboratory that's gorgeous. And sometimes in the spring, you can just sit there and do work. They're goldfish, lily pads. I can still work there now. We're also in any like hammock on campus. Yeah, like the Solomon hammocks are really solid. Oh, no. They are. They're so stubborn, bro. It's still stubborn. It looks like pretty much. It's warm. It's so warm. These are really J.E. dining hall. Huge plug or J.E. dining hall. There's no one there usually taking tons of work done and they never kick you out. You can just stay for like three meals in the day if you've nothing to do and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't say anything. I've done it for a breakfast until like 3 p.m.  I've eaten this J.E. like twice. I eat there every morning. I'm not eating J.E. yet. Can I have a hot breakfast? No. There's some really good water in there. I'll take it. I don't like hot breakfast. I think it's not worth it. The eggs suck. And I don't need like a eat or pancakes every morning. That's excessive. Who wants pasta at 9 o'clock in the morning? Okay, they don't do that. It's only a brunch. It's only a brunch, bro. You know, sometimes they do do that. I don't think so. I'm not eating a hot breakfast. One of the other day, Pearson had like breakfast pizza and I was so confused. It's a treat, bro. What's an attempt? I'm trying to do like an insane thing. I would go for breakfast pizza. It's like the same price. Usually at hot breakfast they also have like cold breakfast items too. They do. That's true. I don't know. The eggs are like more than 1000. Really? I've never watched that breakfast. Just like if you're coming from the gym. But then like that. I have a very important question for the group. Okay. Dorothy's tenders versus dining hall tenders on the tender Thursday. I think Dorothy's tenders are actually better. Dining hall tenders. I'm going dining hall all the way. Dining hall tenders are actually fried. These things are just like frozen. Yeah. These are like microwaved. These are softer though. They have better sauce at derphys than they do. They have all the sauce as an added dining hall. I didn't really like honey mustard. You get unlimited tenders. Would you want any more? Do you have any more? Yes. I think this is always good. I could take two of these for sure. I could definitely be like two of these. At least one and a half. But then also charge what? $6 for like four tenders. I mean also everything at derphys is just incredibly overpriced. Except for apple sauce. You can get eight for $3. Nice. I'm going to have to hit it. The other day I got one continuity and two vitamin waters and it was like $11 and I was so confused. That's really expensive for three items that are relatively expensive. A lot of people are curious about social life, slash parties, slash do people in Yale like actually have fun or are they just too busy studying? We have no fun here. I think we have a lot of fun. Much more fun than people do have at Harvard. Yes. And much more fun than people think we have. There's like so many different types of social scenes I think that you can really generally find happiness. We have a lot of parties that are open to everybody on campus as long as you're a Yale student or a visiting friend. Yeah. It's just like check IDs and that's the only necessity to get in most places. There's like no restrictions against males and like we're not like sexist towards women and only letting women into like fat parties most of the time. Most of the time. I like sweet parties are also a huge thing for like closer groups. My college actually pays a suite to throw parties. A suite that you're in. A suite that I'm in. So yeah, there's like a lot of opportunities I think even if you want like a chill night at home with your friends or it's like do I have to frat? Just know that the social scene at Yale is barren at Harvard. I don't agree to all agree though. Maybe that's a result of the administration at Yale versus the administration at Harvard, but I also think it's a result of people. I think it's partially administration though because they know that it's going to happen anyway so they're like oh we'll facilitate and make it safe. Yeah, no that's a good question. It's totally administration. No, it's just the type of person that comes to the school. The Harvard kids come here from Harvard at Yale and they're like wow. Yeah, it's great. It's very open.  You call the possible or the ambulance a company. No. Yeah. It's a very good policy. It makes everything super safe and you never have to like even though you're technically like in the middle like in the middle of like a pretty easy size city like you never have safety concerns I would say. You definitely have to deal with the townies everyone in a lot of different ways. That's a great thing. We're great people. Yeah. We're great people. No, a lot of the new headed lovers are great. They're great. Some of them. Last week last week I was standing outside of a party at a house and some random stranger comes up to me clearly just out of his mind a little whether intoxicated or just deranged. It comes up to me and caused me his husband. He wouldn't give up either because I was just talking to a girl. I was talking to it was like this is my husband. Why are you talking to my husband? That's what he said to me and I was quite confused. Because he's not my type. Also, I'm not married. I think he was out there who were interested in Alec's top marriage. He's single and looking for people. Not actively looking but you know something goes my way. He's leading all dating apps? Yeah. Making big steps. Don't have a tinderator. It's weird. Sometimes you have awkward interactions. Sometimes you match with someone you see down the street and then I've made some good friends actually. Because then you see them and like if you mess up to it first I think it could be interesting and fun. It could be. Yeah. And it just like But he was like a pretty small school it's probably like high.  It was like very hard to hide. Yeah.  It's very comfortable though. It's like high school. It's available. Not at Alex High School. Oh yeah. True. Not at any of our high schools. We know we're like normal. Unnormal. Like normal. We're like a normal classic public school.  You went to public school right? Yeah. All of us are public schools. Actually everyone here is from public schools. You went to stylusons. I was like Let's take a test to your public school. Yeah. My school was test public school nonetheless. There we go. Okay. Here's one. Here's one. What does a typical conversation at Yale look like? Um, hey bro. Outside of Tommy's suite. Let's get a meal. Stash at anyone? Hmm. Conversations at Yale are just normal conversations. Yeah. Let me check my G-Cal. Yeah. There's some people at Yale who like to have really philosophical conversations. I don't know about them. I would say that's the northern though. I think everyone hits that at some point. Yeah. Especially when they're DS. But we all talk about a conversation. A sub. Yeah. A sub sub. It depends on the people you're talking to. I will openly talk about the Kardashians in conversation though. That is. They're great. I think they're great. They're very intelligent. Hmm. This is people here. I think that they've definitely taken their situation and ran with it and did all these things.  And she proceeded to make an entire career. She is American royalty. That family is American royalty. That's also like the American dream. They are totally American royalty. I know they're not. The fact that all America has bought into their fame is how they have. I don't know. I don't watch it. They're still making a lot of money. Kim Kardashian had a best selling book with photos of her face. Nothing else.


So welcome, Jaco here from Cork Our Sense. Thank you all already for having joined. Don't worry it's not getting the guitar. We're talking about frog stands and we're talking about the ability when we're in one of these frog stands to be able to take that knee off and be able to stay there and not collapse down and not lose our strength and not lose the ability to hold the structural integrity of this front part of the body, that anterior train that is working hard for the shoulders to the triceps to keep us there. So we're going to give us a few little tips to help work through that. So you can follow along with us. This is going to be available to watch back on replay on IGTV or on YouTube. If you're putting the comments out, if you're working on your frog to handstand and let us know in the comments and if you feel like literally the same principles whether you're taking one leg off or you're just trying to take both legs off, the same principles here are going to apply. So what I want to do, I want to take us through and just explain a few little technique things that are going to potentially help. Ultimately we need to build up more strength for the shoulders, for the triceps to help us stay strong in this position. But let's think about what are some of the shapes that we're going to try to create with this frog stand. And then if you feel like you get into this position and you feel like cranky, my leg, I'm trying but my legs just feel like they're glued on. Like a lot of sometimes people complain about like when you first start tonight the knee on the back of here feels a bit uncomfortable. Sometimes people even literally get like a bruise but you might feel like your legs literally feel like they're stuck to your elbows or to your triceps. And a lot of the time people like point at their core and they say like I don't think I've got enough strength for my core to push up. It's not to do with your core, promise you it's to do with what's going on at the shoulders of the triceps. So let's just go through a few pointers initially to start with. So thank you again, thank you for everyone that's joined this one live, you watch it back and replay, thank you as well. But hands shoulder width apart, so initially we want to have them directly under, there's hands directly positioned underneath the shoulders. That is going to give us a good start to put around stacking things on top of our basic sports. We want to rather than being like too narrow or too wide we're creating a lever up, we want to have it directly underneath. We're going to spread those fingers when you spread them out as wide as you can, create a bigger base of support, that surface area, that's what's touching the floor. And also literally by extending those fingers out and pushing them down into the ground, you're starting to like create a little bit of fascial tension through the hands as well, which is going to help just create tension through the whole of this chain. Now we want to be at the point where, I'm going to show you side on, we want to be at a point where rather than the elbows being, or the knees being outside of the elbows and then the elbow being in that knee crease, where you end up like really low to the floor. I want this to be comfortable first, we're getting that knee above the elbow on towards the back of the triceps.  It's going to want to like slip off or on, well slip off on the outside or slip off on the inside, but what is it comfortable with pressing those knees into triceps and just get yourself feeling okay in this position, where you'll have it higher up. So rather than being like the knees outside the elbows and low down here, we're going to try to be a bit higher up in that type of shape. Okay, I'm just going to move the camera back, yeah this is slightly. So that's what we're trying to do initially with this starting position. Okay so get yourself comfortable with putting that knee on the tricep at the back there. And then from there, I want to think about our intent around creating tension through this front portion of the body. So I'm pushing the floor down away, pushing through the hands, I'm pushing my shoulder away so effectively like that projection, I'm wrapping the shoulder base around the cage, but I want to make sure we still have this posterior tilt into the scapula. If we lose control or function of the scapula and the stability of the scapula in terms of it being flat and flush to that ribcage because it's tilting forwards a little bit in that anterior tilt, we want to keep the shoulder blades feeling like they're flat and stuck to that ribcage. So particularly the bottom portion, this was my scapula, the bottom portion keeping that nice and flush, feeling like you're pushing or feel that nice connection through. It's almost like a sensation, I feel like I'm pushing through my back. Okay so and then what my intent is, I'm going to be trying to push down as hard as I can before I do anything else. So it's not a case of I get into my frog stand and just take that knee off and sort of fall down like that. Before I do anything I have to set the right intention. So I would always want to do a repetition where I just push down into the ground as hard as I can and try and get strong through this front chain. Okay so fingers are spread, pushing down hard into the ground. I feel like I'm pushing the shoulder blades around the back feeling like I'm always pushing through the back itself and then my intent is to push down as hard as I can. So not resting and slumping in this position, I push down as hard as I can and if I did then my I'm literally stronger if like both my legs are going to come up off the knees. But my intent before I build up enough strength to do that is going to just be like here I'm pushing as hard as I can. Hard as I can. Rather than being here sort of like resting and I'm slumped down a little bit. It's not a resting position. You should come out of the end of a maximal contraction in this frog stand where you're pushing down as hard as it can like you're going to feel it through the shoulders like an anterior deltoid. You're going to feel it through your triceps not just the knee on the back of it but feel it in terms of trying to straighten that elbow, trying to push out and trying to push. Away. I'm even going to have a drink. So if that's starting to feel comfortable or you're getting that idea of intent there's some people that's actually the thing that changes it. It's like okay I'm not just resting here. I'm pushing down as hard as I can and that being said like when you then become strong enough when I'm in this position here and I when I'm in this position here and I push down as hard as I can what's going to happen is legs are going to come off and I've built up the strength gloves. I hold myself in there. Obviously that's a bigger progression but just to illustrate the point and show you. So what we're going to do is we're going to be prepare this chain to create enough tension so we're pushing out as hard as we can and then we're going to take one knee off at a time. We're going to take it off and rather than leaving it out to side or straining it out behind us we're just going to bring it in nice and tight towards our midline towards the centre. So we're not adding an extra lever on by straightening the leg out but what's important and what's actually very interesting for people is not how bad my man bun thing looks but what's really interesting is and sometimes when people take that leg off it's like they take it off and it sort of like goes out over here somewhere and they don't know that they're doing that. They don't even realise that the leg is that they're focused so much on what's going on down in where the hands are with the shoulders that the leg goes off and does whatever it wants. So you know the brain is ultimately controlling them but it's that kinesthetic awareness that spatial awareness of like where that leg is but ultimately when we have enough strength through that bottom chain it allows us to consciously be able to think about some other elements to it that's going to help yeah. So what we're going to what we're going to do is try to put that then into practice so I'm going to create the right position create enough tension by the intent of how I'm pushing down into the floor and then when I feel like I've created an awful lot of tension I'm then going to take that one leg off and just be aware rather than sending it out behind me which is creating a lever arm it's going to pull me down I'm going to bring it in close to me and it's going to stay in the middle and I'm going to try and hold this we don't want to hold for like a split second we want to try and hold for you know a few seconds ideally sort of up to five seconds or more so it's going to look something a little bit like this I'll show you let's give it a slight angle this way so finger spread hands directly from the shoulders little bend in the elbow to create a ledge bring the knees up so then the knees rest on that ledge bum then is a little bit higher and push it down as hard as I can create that tension take that knee off hold it in the middle for a few seconds and then if I can I'm going to put it back on and come down just rather than just like free falling down now when you start it's not going to necessarily look like that what's going to do I'll do the other side this time so I'm not just but you want to and you want to even it up so you're doing the same on each side um so and have a little bit of rest then we can go to the other side so um what might happen when you first start is you do all this to the things you push down really hard you take that knee off and it's like oh and you take it off but it sort of like comes down slowly now that's that's still very good that's a long way it's a big difference between that and taking me off and just falling down yeah one of the the second one I've rushed there and I've not actually created um enough tension to be able to hold that position I'm not actually building strength I'm just falling down no one got strong falling over so ideally we take that knee off we bring it towards the midline so we're not creating a lever arm behind us making it more difficult bring it into the midline nice and tucked and close and then we want to hold there so we hold for a few seconds and there the purpose of putting it back on just shows us we've got the strength and control to be able to stay nice and high in that position and then you know ultimately um I'll stay this side for now um ultimately you can then once that starts to feel good it's like okay push down hard keep that position hold for five four three two one back on and then swap over there hold that for five put back on and then come down so now I'm doing each side but without resting in between that would be a progression on from coming back down and resting between each one of those does that make sense how have uh let me know in the comments interesting how people have been getting on so on youtube uh aphamster resting my legs on the transits two people so you get used to it after a while like you could if you uh if you wore like a jump or something so that it's not just like skin on skin or if you've got tracksuit bottoms on so your knees are just rubbing sometimes it's just like the rubbing of the skin but it gets used to it um I promise you don't do it but it's a better position for you transitioning that frog stand into your full handstand because if you start with your knees um outside of the elbows in this really low position you've got a long way to go to get that our ass above your head whereas when I come up onto toes and put the knees on the triceps that bum is always already an awful lot higher getting closer towards the position of getting that bum stacked on top of the shoulders and on top of the hands into your handstand um so I hope that helps and makes sense um just looking at some of the questions also on um inscribed uh G wood ruby saying great tips glad it helps um Sam rents 15 so it's really good helpful good good good um no problem at all guys and girls um someone's saying problem with the balance think it's my forearms so I mean your forearms do you know do a lot of work and and the grip strength of your fingers remembering for balance wise particularly in you in whether it's in your frog stand or your handstand it's your fingertips gripping that become the breaks for when you want when your legs most often it's and going over the top so gripping with the fingers helps to pull them back and having the strength through your forearms to be able to have you know it takes a an awful lot more finger strength grip than uh than we probably give ourselves justice uh give ourselves justice just by the way give ourselves credit for give the fingers credit for that they need to be quite strong to be able to control and manage that and be the breaks and yes it what controls your fingers or the forearm muscles that come all the way up um to the elbow so yes but training practicing and training that and a good one for literally the frog stand while the more you're having to worry about the full balance position just to get used to that can be i'll show you uh uh yeah sure your front arm would be a nice one so going in a frog stand position and literally grip with your fingers and then move yourself side to side using forwards and backwards using your fingers to move you about just gives you a bit more awareness of using how you can use the fingers to manage your balance um and manage um manage the the weight distribution of uh keeping your your center of mass your body that's stacked above your base support which is going to be your hands and as you move that about your hands have to react and help to i don't know why i'm doing this it's not they're not like that but i mean that that little bit of movement the fingers are working hard to grip um kevin 10 uh saying wrist so making sure you've got decent wrist extension so that the hand you can actually create a position where the forearm becomes vertical when you're in that position um anything that we're doing around like um uh where the hands are on the floor supporting us so any of our crawling patterns our push-ups and frog stands even themselves just making sure that you're doing some of the mobility work on your wrist to keep them um to loosen off some of the tissues around particularly around the forearm will help with that um and making sure you can get the wrist into a position comfortably where it is stacked vertically above the hand if it's too tight around the front of here we need to do some some release work in our in our frog to handstand program we've got an offer on about 25% off that at the moment there's um all the movement preparation exercises we put in for particularly around the shoulders and around the wrist to prepare them for um handstands but the big thing is understanding that we need to build up progressively if it's painful and sore we need to do something to adjust that rather than just pushing through pain pain remember is your body's way your brain's way of telling that you you need to work something needs to be um worked on a little bit um um so and then another question from youtube on these are nearer to the elbow any tips to get higher so getting getting yourself higher up some of it comes to remember the brain is very very clever some of it comes to the more the higher you put your bum up the more your stacking weight on top of the shoulder so there's a strength element that comes to it in terms of my the way i get my knee to go higher on my elbow is literally pushing up through so rather being this deep squat position i come up and stick the bum up in the air and that starts to help me get those knees higher up so they're low down when i'm bend here rather i just need to start to open up and extend through the knee a little bit more and then i can split you know i can put i'll go right up onto my tiptoes i can get my knees right up into my armpits if if i wanted to to go as high as possible okay so go up onto your tiptoes go extend up through the knees um dado today i tried a handstand but i crashed badly this is one of the great things about the frog stand like there's less worry about falling over when we're trying to learn to the new life the handstand we love starting working with the bottom part for the frog stand because it just creates a safe environment for the brain to understand and learn to use the hands like feet the wrists and the shoulders to build up the strength to be able to support our frog by the way so it's a great place um to start for that so uh some great questions coming in thank you everyone for that um there's one on instagram now um someone's saying yes follow us on youtube yeah we just reached a hundred thousand just passed over a hundred thousand on youtube recently so if you don't follow us on youtube this is live on youtube and we'll be available to watch back on youtube later as well and yes we have tons of videos on there to help particularly the frogs handstand but but loads of stuff so we've got yeah full playlist there's a series of conditioning work there's all sorts on everything everything you can think of in terms of for body weight and kind of sense training um so dino uh dino uh does the angle of frog stand matter tipping forward uh me uh tipping forwards to help you um yeah so the more if you when you put those knees a little bit higher and the bum goes up and you tip forward a little bit that's going to get you closer towards like that that transition position to get up into the tucked handstand and then into into the full handstand so that is helpful it takes more strength from the shoulders and the triceps but yes it will be more helpful for that for sure um uh yeah we haven't received a youtube button after getting a hundred thousand we need to put a touch do it do we get some we thought we're supposed to get something for having a hundred thousand subscribers on youtube sounds like you get a button um so yeah um look forward to coming to that maybe it's maybe it's in the face so no way maybe it's raw matter just being a bit slow um anyway if that's uh thank you guys uh for for watching and joining along if you have any questions either put them in the comments on youtube or if you're on instagram uh you can send us a dm and it will more than happy to to help you with your your handstand your frog stand journeys this is a great one for building up the strength for some of those progressions into frog to handstand if you want a full program to follow as mentioned i've mentioned quick and full we've got 25 percent offer 25 percent off off frog to handstand program that's one of the one of the online programs that people get as part of their memberships with the virtual classroom but you can buy as a one-off and that 25 percent off is uh is it 74 quid rather than 99 as a one-off payment or you can get membership where it's 99 a month um can you get access to um 10 plus um online programs and help from all of the coaches here at the school cast clinics and um you can access all that online and then with the with the memberships the monthly memberships there's a seven-day free trial as well so you can literally test it out for free if you want um or you've got the option to buy it as a as a one-off for 74 quid um which is just that one payment so uh yeah check it out if you haven't done yet um and uh say if you have any other questions or follow-ups from this hit us up in the comments or on a dm and um also just like as you'd practice it and have a go with it with your training let us know how you are getting on we look forward to hearing and helping you with your progress so until next time from the school cast clinics on the big line i've been jacko you've been awesome class dismissed