We on boss talk one-on-one, one-on-one. Yo, we gon' talk, we gon' have fun. We be on fire, we be lily.     Name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, you CEO. No. And I'm here with the lovely, amazing, paying attention. Mr. Maker, what's going on, man? No, no, no, no. Official Mr. Maker. Thank you for correcting that. Man, hold on. You know when they'll walk on. Say, man, what is going on? What is y'all got going, pizzas? Is a kid that want a feature? Oh, he want a feature in there, go around there. Okay. Thank you so much, man.  Yeah, somebody with some money, huh? Already, that's family, though. That's all, this is all good, man. So, man, hey, bread, winter cane, is here all the way from where? Alabama? Yeah, from Huntsville, Alabama, man. Hunts Vegas, man. Man, you one of them guys, man. I enjoy the research on you. I did look you up, man. Looked like you've been working a long time, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, you know? Been in the game for a while, you know what I'm saying? Started out with my boy Ox from Jamaica, OX, R.I.P. OX from the movie Belly. You know what I'm saying? Started out with him, bumped into Big Cat Records when he signed Gucci, man. So actually, I was on the street chain promoting, I wasn't an artist at first, so started out like that and meeting people with Gucci, man, when he first did the Trap House album. So it was behind all that function. And Zaytoven, you know, he my brother, Gucci, man's from Birmingham. We've been getting all that by a whole lot of work, man. Yeah, he just going and going and going. No, he's not, he's not, he's not, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet, not yet for the story. Y'all don't know my story. No, we better get that, we better get that. I gotta move, man. You see, the dope thing, you know, a lot of people love the music part of it or whatever, but for me personally, I can't speak for nobody else. I need to know you as a person. That's what I need to know before I even fall in love with any artist as a, you know, as the personality.  In Alabama. In Alabama. And that's country. Man. And were you the only sibling?  I got some brothers, I got two brothers. No sisters. On my mama's side and I got a sister on my daddy's side. But you were raised with your brothers? With my brothers, yeah.  Your daddy wasn't there. Nah, he was around here and there, but you know how it is. Oh, okay. Why does it have to be like, I'm tired of hearing that story. I mean, my daddy, I love my dad. He had to do what he had to do.  You know, some of my kids, I don't get to see maybe it was because my mom, maybe him and her had, you know, a situation where she kept him away from him, but we good now. But as a kid, you didn't understand it cause most children don't understand it. Cause parents don't explain that to kids. Nah, you know, as a kid, it was like, I really didn't want to go around them too much anyway. It was a lot. My dad, you know, he was a gangster. So, you know what I'm saying? My granddad was a gangster. It was a lot going on with that. So, you know, whenever you ready for the story. So did you fall into that category? Because, you know, if it comes down to the line, I know that not everybody can fall into that. Some people choose to be different, but sometimes you fall into that trap.  Look, look what we had today. Look what I'm doing. What you think I'm doing. Half of my legs, for real.  Oh, really? I think that's almost everybody, though. No matter who that person is. When you think about black people, gangster.  I know you had your life soft. You had no, you looked in the fridge ready. You had no food in there. So you're from Jamaica. Oh man, I'm from Jamaica. Rocks from Jamaica. That's what I said. You started off here. So I know you know what's going on. So when you said it, when you said that, I was like, at least you started off good. Oh, what now? You started off right. So how was your trip to Jamaica? When you said you went to Jamaica, you went with him? Went with him, yeah. So you started a real Jamaica there? Yeah, I went over there my first time going. It was like some big gathering concert for Sparga Ben's son. Sparga Ben's son had just got killed then. So I met all the Marley brothers. I met Jill Scott, she was there. It was really dope. I've seen a lot of people out there like about 2,000, 3,000 people. So when he got, because Sparga Ben used to live on Red Square, did he take you down to those areas where he was found? We went everywhere, because I got a smoke. So I had to go everywhere trying to find the loud.  I'm trying to find the hydro. So I went somewhere everywhere. I couldn't tell you every place I went. I knew I was in Kingston, you know? But you're right. I went to a still club in Jamaica too in Kingston. Yeah, I been. They picked the dollar up for you. Yeah, man. Man, it go crazy in there. It go crazy, man. Yeah, it went, she took me. It go crazy. I was like, whoa. I went, I was like, damn. Yeah. It's a little more lively than what I'm normally seeing. Exactly. They went through the roof in that whole, man. Yeah, they going down. They going, whoa, nigga, for a dollar, nigga, it's going down. For a dollar, they doing it the most. They doing the most, man. But I don't like that, though. Me too. Man, so when you think about just the music, man, like I said, you mentioned some names early on, Big Cat, you was down there with Gucci, man, and Big Cat fell out as well. Yeah, you know, that was a long time ago. Yeah, a long time ago. They had a little run in where it was, you know? You know, a little money situation or something with them, but I ain't never get into it. So, I mean, they cool today, though.  And he was like, I just mind my business. God, it ain't my business. It ain't my business. Yeah, remember him, man. Yeah, he's been around. I used to be with Gucci. I used to be, see, 2-11 was signed with Jesus. So, I used to be over there with both of them. So, it was pretty cool. Minding your business. Jesus respected and Gucci respected. That's real.  When I first started this show, I said, I gotta get you on Boss Talk, because I had a dude named Flex and Fab, and Flex and Fab get free beats from Zay Tobin, just, and I was like, man, you gotta get that boy, till he call him right, your own set nigga, the nigga been cool with the show ever since, but I ain't got him yet, but I gotta get him. For show, yeah, Zay is a real humble guy, man, that's my brother. For show, you know, he gonna come on here and bless the show, man. Yeah, we got Famigia Territory going on. That's another side of the distribution I got. And I just, you know, started with the T.S.F. I'm a big fan, bro, and I seen you at Just Link with Sauce Walker. I was actually, me and him were conversing and dealing with him a little bit. Sauce a real one, man, he made me laugh. I love Sauce, man. Because he's so Texas, man, young Texas too. So I just, I know that Texas feel, man, Sauce feel, he's sharing the wealth, man, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So salute to Sauce, man. Sauce and everything that he doing over there, man. Yes, sir, sir, and all of them. How'd you end up even coming to that, that whole organization and be like, I'm gonna rock with these guys? Right. Well, you know, I knew them from Rockin' with Gates with the BWA, the breadwinner association. Okay, okay. So I knew him under Twins and Myzee. Salute to the 100-game RP, Young Myzee, Myzee, my boy.  That's my boy. You know, he been on Boss Top. I was like, oh, that's my nigga. So when he linked that in, then we ended up like, okay, I'm gonna do a two. I wanna do a feature with him. So we linked it in to where we just linked in, like brothers, he see my leg and was like, man, look, you know, you're a star, nigga, come on, man. What we finna do? So we working and moving and I'm over there with them TSF right now. That's hard, man. And off of TSF, man. That's hard, bro. That's hard because they move like they, it's like a movement. He got a whole movement and everything he been doing been so solid like with the way he repping the whole TSF of Texas and just basically showing the way we move down here in a new way. You know what I mean? You got a lot of different artists in Houston that been on this show Chos and Be King and all them cats, but Sauce is one of them guys. And when I guess Sauce Wood winning was on here and he just basically was telling me how he linked with him and how much respect he had for him. So it's been a dope overall run for Boss Top 101. One year and some in the making. Almost two years. Almost two years, man. January will be two years. Already, man.  How do you meet him though? How do you? Goof, shit, man. You know, one of my relatives was going with this guy's sister, his name is Wiz. Okay, Wiz was linked in with Zay. And we went over Zay who was in the studio. So he was like, man, you know, I got an artist named Gucci from Alabama. I want you to meet him. So he introduced me to Gucci and he was like, I'm from Besse, Alabama, like from Huntsville. We linked in, but I wasn't rapping at that time. Okay. So we linked in on some, you know, just me, just linking in with him. How old were you at this time? Huh? How old were you? Man, I was probably about 22, 23 something like that. Okay. Okay. And 22, 23 year old cocky as hell, but real humble, but cocky. Yeah, but cocky. Yeah, listen to my, I thought I had my own money. Ain't that do everything?  So when you was around him, though, during that time, that was before Walker, Neil. But did you even deal with him during the time he was dealing with Walker? Well, when he got with Walker, that's when he had the issue with Cat, I guess. And then, you know, Ms. Deb came in and Ms. Deb really didn't know me like that. I linked in with him a couple of times, but it really was like he was jumping into another phase of his life. So you're not gonna have to let a nigga move on when they're moving on. When they're moving on, yeah, yeah. So yeah, shout out to Gouwa, but we straight, but he had to move on and make his next journey in his life for his career. When you think about you, you also dealt with Kevin Gates. Like, how was that? How did you even know him? Like, oh, yeah, he's from Baton Rouge. That's why I asked you that. Remember I asked you that? Yeah, yeah. I'm like, so how did you even link with Kevin Gates? Well, you know Gates, man, you know, I seen him, I think we was out at Arnick's. He was with Draco. I think he was with Draco and Marzi or something.   He started saying that. So when we linked up, I had got a feature for somebody, one of my artists. The artist was lazy. He was like, man, you need to just cut it and just start rapping yourself. So he was like, boom, we gonna do it like this. Boom. I'm like, what BWA mean? He's like, whoop, whoop. I'm like, I'm about to get it on my neck. I'm gonna push it like the Sioux movement, you know. I pushed that line real hard. So everybody know that. So when I started pushing it, the whole state Alabama had California, you know what I'm saying? I got Tennessee. I got a lot of people that pushed behind me.  I'm like, yeah. So we just started pushing that. We did the video. Gage did the while she talking video for me. Dropped that single. It was on Worldstar. I think it did. I was like 1.6 million views on that thing. So yeah, salute to Gage, man. It's all love over there. But you can tell you was younger too. I was like, yeah, I was a lot younger than you know. I was a lot younger than you know. That's hard though. Like to have that in your history and to have that in your, you know, your arsenal when you look back, that was a hard, that's a hard way to come in the game, man. That's hard, man. When I seen it, it was, I was like, this done deal. I got to talk to this nigga, yeah. And I went and looked at a couple of your interviews and I was like, that's a real one, man. I like to link with him because I can look at the way people are, man. I love my people that without a shadow of a doubt. But just seemed like you was a genuine person just from seeing your moves.   You ain't backing nobody. You know, I was just looking at when I posted my press release of signing partnership with TSF. So I was looking at my Instagram right before I walked in. I see Zae reposted that thing. So salute to Zae for the new territory. You know, we work in this summer and this company is going down. Like, for you and him to grow that bond enough to even say, we gonna do a movement together. That's heavy, bro. So that's a blessing too. People don't really count their blessings for him. Man, this is blessing too.  Go ahead, man.  Well, you know, it's a lot of niggas in the industry that's really not from the streets. You know, that's what he said, we in the streets. We taking and going to the community is trying to make it better. That's real.  Changing kids' lives and keeping them away from prison instead of, you know, the rap is rap. You can't change. It's gonna be negative in rap. That's how it was. That's what it meant to be is hip hop. Yeah. But it can be positive in rap too. Yeah, you can be positive. You can have some gospel music. I salute to my boy D from New Orleans. What's his name? D? D got positive music. D. It's hard to find positive music right now. See how you struggle to find it. Yeah, D. I can't think of his name D though. He from New Orleans. You know what I'm talking about? But you struggled.  Don't get me wrong. But now it's kind of like, where is he at? Where is this conscious rapper at? Where is it? Right now, it's really, it's really gangsta. It's not a thing right now. It's really, it's a drilling and all this craziness is going on with nothing else in between. Not even R&B.   But is that good or bad? I mean, I like all kinds of music. So you know, some of the music coming out now is good. Like even like with the Migos, I remember when they first found them, I remember them guys, they was cool, cool guys. Like the Fasachi, Fasachi, Fasachi. See people couldn't get the, you had to grow on it, keep playing on the radio, keep playing in the club.  Advertisement. Man, you so right, man. But the game doesn't change, man. And it didn't change, not only one time.  And I watched when LA on them and all this stuff, Fat Boys and all of them came on the scene and then watching as a kid and then you see it grow and elevate as a teen in the 90s hit and you got the chronic and different things popping at that time and the new LAO coming through. Then you go into the phase. I'm just looking at all of these different phases. We just not in a new phase. Right, it's a new phase. You see what I'm saying? Even the big cat, even the big cat booting him. Yeah, that was kind of new. That was a different element of it. Right, young Jay-Z was different. Different elements and people, but it's still our people. Yeah. But like Jay-Z, say still never. I want to go back to something because you never did say how did you get into the rap? Like when you were young growing up, is that what you wanted to do? No, I played football in school and stuff. I wanted to make it like to NFL for real. Were you good? Yeah, it was good. Me too. My whole family, my brothers, everybody was good, but I don't know the rap thing came along. Like I said, I met Ox, then I met Goo, after that I met Gates. Gates influenced me really to be picking up the mic and rap it. Yeah, that's what he was saying.  And when I started spending money on myself, I started making money off the rap. I bet you everybody that I had signed or even dealt with music, I made more money than they have. So, but even, cause you know a lot of times when people don't do the rap, it's because it felt like they weren't good enough. That felt like they couldn't do it. Well, I don't care. You know, I'm gonna rap anyway. You ain't got an answer to it. I don't care how I sound. You dig, it is what it is. No, you cover what? I think when it's a hundred percent you, you really can't care. Hey, you gotta let it go. It's your story. When you get your first show money, who gonna stop you from getting some money? When you get your first show money, when somebody want to see you, you're like, man, these people, these three, four hundred people just see me? Exactly. How did that feel for you the first time? How did that feel for you the first time? It felt amazing. Amazing, nigga, see that, you know? When you see people actually singing your song, word for word, rapping it. That's hard. That's hard. You'll be like, man, I'ma do this, I'ma do this, you know, you keep doing it.  They're gonna do something to try to knock you. You mentioned the Migos earlier, man. And the Migos is a situation that just happened where my boy, Takeoff, Y.P., you know? Just, you know, when you see things happen, and I ask this, we've been asking it all day, when you see things happening like this late night, Dolls Pass, and the other boys up in P&B Rock, it's not, I'm just three, but it's been so many, bruh.  You know what I'm saying?  So it's like, that right there, that was a blow, cause we all was together, I've been in Houston, I was, we was together, me walk all the TSF, skip the flippers at the studio, we're about to record and all that shit, so it hit us pretty hard with that one, so that's a blow, that's gonna be a blow, blow, blow for that one, so that's just sad, yeah, R.I.P. And the thing, you know, you really gotta think about is, man, you know, he definitely was the low-key one of the group to me, and he also, I met him in Vegas when you was, we was in, I don't know if you was with me. I wasn't with you guys. Yeah, she was, cause. I wasn't there when you met him. Okay. I might've been there, but I wasn't there. You was there, yeah, but I know we was at the show in The Magic, and they was there, and it was him, and I don't say it wasn't there, they were just him and his nephew or whatever, and it's just crazy how you see these people, matter of fact, that was the time when they got into it with John Kingston, I don't know if you remember that, at The Magic, they got into it. Oh yeah, I remember that, yeah, I remember that. Yeah, you was there, I'm telling you. Yeah, I remember that. They had a little runny over something that was said, I can just remember, I just think back, you know what I'm saying, and we was all there, and we was all walking around talking. Soldier boy was there that year too. Yeah, yeah, all of us was there. We were all just hanging out, and that's where it be. A lot of times when you, you know how it is, when you just hanging out, I made Gucci there. A lot was not there. He never made, he was gambling, every time they go gambling.  He was at the table every time.  You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But at any rate, man, just to know these guys and see these guys, and like I said, know them in a way we do get to know them, as artists, and hear the music, and then to see somebody taking away at age 28, that's crazy to me, man. That's crazy to me, man. My son 29, you know what I'm saying? That's crazy. And it's like, damn, you know, like another one going, man. So I don't know, just pray for his family, all that good stuff, man, and pray that people can come to live with it, because that's a part right there. That's a whole different level than what's going on. That's a blow, like I said, for the black culture, you know what I'm saying? That they'll take him out like that, that's crazy. That's crazy. So just what we got coming, you know? I'm gonna ask you about the league and the Wreck. That's coming, cause I gotta know about that.  Painful. I mean, in fact, I talked about that, cause it seemed like that's something that really, you know, that's life changing. Yeah, man, for real. So you riding and having a good time? Mm-hmm. And actually, I was on a Can-Am, I was on a Can-Am, and this happened August the 3rd of last year. So not actually, yeah, last year. And you still walking on that Can-Am? His leg, no, his leg. Man, my leg came off at the bottom below the knee. Oh, I didn't know that. So they had to put him back on. Yeah, the Can-Am smashed it and took my leg off, so they put it back on, so that's the long healing process. How long did they say it's gonna take?  I think it's healing. I go back when I leave, I'm gonna go back to the doctor and get X-rays to see what's going on. You still doing therapy? Yeah. Physical therapy? Man, it's tough trying to recover and recoup. And the hardest thing is not moving quickly and learning how to move again. Right. I'm just learning how to walk again. That's hard, man. That's hard. How did it affect you mentally, though? You know what, man? It was messing with me hard at first, but when I got out the hospital, smoked me a blind eye and I'd be straight. For real? Yeah, no, that's hard, because you gotta understand, man. You gotta smoke. You gotta smoke? They take them pain pills all the time. Look at him, he's agreeing with that. He's taking things out. Smoking. Them pain pills had me waking up going crazy. Yeah, yeah. They had me tripping out, though.  Yeah, I'm glad. My friend said the same thing about his pain pills. The one that, remember, he just had knee surgery? Oh, yeah, he didn't tell you, he said I did. Yeah, he said them pain pills really had him tripping. The doctors had to take him off of him. And he's saying, like you, he had to smoke something to get himself straight. Yeah, man, because you know them pills, they be sneaking up on you in the wrong way. No, that's real. So, let's get back to Alabama, man. Mobile Alabama. Honeycomb Brazy. Honeycomb, free Honeycomb, man. It's my brother, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's down there. I'm asking questions. I'm down, I done jumped back off in there. Honeycomb, good, good, good people, man. There's another nigga down there, too.  A Wave-O in Birmingham. Yeah, A Wave-O, that's him. Yeah, A Wave-O. Big Walk Dog, man. Big Walk Dog, he's from Mississippi. Yeah, yeah, but he's close by. You all niggas over there together. Yeah, he's close. Yeah, but I want to ask you about, I really want to ask you about, like, dealing with seeing things like niggas getting locked to a Honeycomb Brazy on the top, he's riding around, doing his thing. They be targeting us or what, man, or do you think it's just, we out there in the smoke? Man, we always been a target.  Damn, I agree with you.  Man, that's real. So do you feel like, is that somebody, when he come home, you could work with him? Oh yeah, we got a song you ain't seen in the video on the song. It's called Smoke on the Z-toe and B. Man. Who said song? What? I gotta get on that. We all gotta get on that. Red Raw. That's crazy. Oh, wow. Yeah, man, Free Honeycomb. How long had he been doing music? When I first seen him, he was at the projects and it was a long song by his uncles and all his cousins and everything, that whole hoard. I was like, my partner put me on it, I was like, nigga, going in, nigga. Yeah, Honeycomb, he be going in. I think Honeycomb been rapping for a couple of years, though. I just bumped into him a couple years ago when we did that song. Oh, and that's how you end up running into him?  Alabama, I'm thanking the niggas from Alabama. You know what I mean? I done interviewed a lot of bad news. A little soul. Bad news is when a soldier, he do Southern Blues, though. But he rapped. He was Sir Charles Jones. He been with Boosie and him, too. But I gotta ask you about you and Boosie's song because I seen that. Yeah, I got a song with Boosie. Yeah, and how that happened because that's how he made me think about Boosie because he started off. But he from Alabama. I'm gonna look him up. Bad news. Bad news for sure.  So he been coming to Huntsville doing shows. So I've been doing Boosie and he signed one of my relatives named D. Rogers. So we linked in like that and I got to track in the video from Boosie called Shooters. Yeah, and how was it making that? What was the process like? Man, Joe Spike shot it. I mean, it cost me a lot of money. Yeah, of course, of course. The process was money. I ain't gonna front process money. But it was really actually good. Boosie had just, you know, had his incident with his leg. So my leg wasn't hurt then. That wasn't long ago. Right, he was leaning on me then. Yeah, yeah, yeah.  It was a great experience. He, Boosie, a real one. Wow, there's a whole, there's a whole bad. So did y'all just, y'all went in the studio together? Y'all kind of just sent verses? I don't think we was in the studio together on that one. I can't remember. Okay. I don't know. Yeah, that's hard because at the end of the day y'all did get the video done. Yeah, we got the video. And how was that? Just making a video. Dope, dope. Like I said, he came out in his electric wheelchair, you know what I'm saying? He stood up, leaned on me. You know what I'm saying? Everything was 100. Wow. Still getting money. Still getting this bread. Still getting this bread, yeah. That's the one thing you gotta realize, man, that sometime when you get in this game, man, and you know already you're pushing and the money coming in and the flossing coming in, it's gonna bring haters, man. For sure. You know what I'm saying? Nigga, man, you got the girl and he didn't. And niggas in the hood, you done beat niggas out of the hood. They like, why that nigga win? How come God let him win and I didn't win? Police officers, nigga, they making what you making, why he making it? I'm being real, I'm being real. You know, you got a lot of haters. You know what it is. We come from the slums, man. We come from nothing. We used to everything. Hate it any kind of way you want to, man. We'll take a little something and make a lot, too. You're right. And I think that's the part, I think a lot of niggas be underestimating us on. That's why you can't never underestimate another cat because you never know what that nigga's gonna do. One rhyme away, nigga, one situation. One rhyme away, we finna be through the room. So where do you wanna see yourself in the next, or should I say next 2023? Where do you see yourself? What do you wanna accomplish? 2023, I'm about to drop these new visuals. It's gonna be TSF business. Give me some youths, some younger guys, two coming up with their mind, right? Put them on with some gang with the rap game. I got businesses I'm working on on myself. I got K and KU's auto sales. I got Level Up South clothing store. Where are they located? That's in Alabama. Okay. Cause you say you moving though, right? I ain't man, moving. You gotta keep everything grooving though. It's hard to run a business. You gotta try to keep that check up. It's hard to run a business far away. I'm probably gonna, I don't know. I'm thinking about the clothing, so I'm gonna keep the car light. I like the car light. Yeah, cause you have reliable people. That's good, cause you look like a business man. Like you wouldn't just deal with just one thing. You're gonna deal with a lot of different things. Right, right. I got that going. So I'm thinking about doing something in Houston. I don't know yet though. Kids? You have children? Yeah, I got kids. How many? I got four. Wow, you done? Yeah. He's like, yeah. You don't sound like you're so sure. I'm done. I'm done with kids. How old are they? 12, 14, 10 and four. What's the main thing you've learned about being a father? You know what, man? What I've been looking at myself coming up and my kids is doing what I'm doing, the reaction of my kids. Really? Yeah. Saying what I'm saying and doing what I'm doing. So I gotta kinda watch what I say. Watch what you say. Watch what I'm doing. And nowadays you can't even hide it. You know how like he say, okay, I can't do this at home because they're watching? Right. Because of what you're doing, because of these phones that they have and kids are very smart. They're on YouTube, they're on social media. Oh man.  And even if they don't see it, the kids at their school is gonna see it and say it to them like, man, I saw your daddy on the phone. Yeah, yeah. So you know, my son, the one I did with Gates, my kids brought that to me. And I was like, man, who shows y'all this man? Where y'all get this at? You know, cause I'm like, man, who showed them that? And that song, you know, it's really explicit. So yeah, my kids, they help. They don't game. Do you explain it to them? Yeah, I told them it was just entertainment. I tried explaining it to them. I want to be a rapper, dad. You got to get one of my Changs there. One of my Gucci belt, I want to pass it, man. You 10 years old, but you ain't getting it. You got young kids rapping.  No, I ain't doing that one.  So once they come to you and be like, I got a song and I want to rap. No, I let them get in there and play around with the booth and rapping and stuff like that. I ain't got that, but I'm not buying no kids Gucci and all that type of stuff, you know. Because early out, they know that there's an image that comes with rapping. And that's what a lot of these kids, when they watch rappers on social media, they're not only watching them and listening to them because, oh, I want to be like them. I got to go through, because I've heard people say, well, I got to do this and this and this because so I can get something to rap about. You know what I mean? So a lot of times they're doing wrong because they want to be. It's like the end story means, but they don't want to lie on their raps. They want to go and do all of this stuff so they can be a rapper. But is that a right concept to be giving these kids for them to be like, okay, in order for me to be a rapper? Because right now it's drill music that is in right now. I got to do this and do this and do this to be that person. Man, you know what? That's a hard question. Because you know everybody hungry. So you can't really knock nobody for trying to get them some money. Long as they really ain't harming nobody, it's television been doing that for years. American then did that to us for years to the kids and everybody else. So it's television starts there. But yeah, I don't know nobody for they hustle. But the difference is, because I was telling somebody that earlier and I said television, that's entertainment. We can always say to our kids, well, that's fabricated. That's not real. But in the rap industry, even if some of these rappers are fake, not all of them, but some of them do perpetrate. But they say that it is real. So you're telling your kids that everything that I'm rapping is real compared to entertainment, which is movies and stuff like that. You tell your kids, oh, that's not real. They made that up. This, this, this, this, you know? So there is a difference. It's a difference. I agree. I had to break it down to my kids like that. Like, you know, and they be wanting to go to my videos at the time. They too young to go to my videos. I got bikini girls, you see them in videos, do it, watch you talking. So I'm explaining to them, it's just a little too young. But you do, I do explain to my kids and my, my daughters and I like, look, you're supposed to like boys. You're supposed to like girls. So that's my main thing. I go with that. They gonna, they gonna have to get in it cause it is what it is. I don't agree with y'all a little bit cause y'all are ignoring me with, your tape member was right at first.  No, let me real, man. It was just a different way we were doing it. So it ain't, it ain't nothing really like, it's really the same to me. It's the same. Now they project and wrestling, they were acting like they were breaking niggas' necks. They were jumping off the top rope with these niggas. But some people, you know what I'm saying? But they were telling you it was real. Right. On the wrestling.  They didn't want you to know it was fake. You had to figure that out. Yeah, you had to figure that out. And they still want to admit it to this day. So I can't, I can't agree. I think that we just quit being a cream book. I'm talking about movies. When it comes down to, we gotta be good parents and parent our kids and teach them the right way. Teach them the right way. And the other part of that is a niggas and teachers kid's right. Right. You gotta have a mama and a father. Let's take two. Ooh, that's hard. I just didn't want to have a mama and a father. I know, but you know, I'm just saying it takes two because women out here, they do get jealous of rappers.  You know what I'm saying?  Come on now. It's hard on you. They think you, like this interview, this interview can give me all kinds of chaos. They can get some child support, go up or whatever, however it go, but you know, women, they got their own way of taking action when they think they need to take action. That's not the truth, man. I've been married off for 20 years. I know damn well you telling the truth. Look at your profit.  No, but the words that topic is concerned. I don't like women who take advantage of certain things just because of the kids. I don't like women using kids as pawns. I believe that men need to be fair, you know what I mean? As long as the man is being fair, because I've seen some women who, the men don't wanna include child support on and they paying for the kids. They giving them the type of money, but they still wanna take these men to child support offices and stuff like that. That's not fair. If he doing what he needs to do, taking care of home and all of that sort of stuff, although he's not with you, he's still taking care of them kids and sometimes he even taking care of the child. That's not even his. And you still wanna do all of that.  Cause you get on this show and you say this all the time and I haven't heard you say it, but women always making a movement to do something. Why is the woman ain't making a movement to stop these women from lying on these men a lot of times and forcing them into child support situations when they, you know what I'm saying? When they basically don't agree with it. Oh man, I gotta do it. Hold up, let me tell you this story. You all got different teachers, these little bit of story, I'm gonna miss it, man. All right, man. Before this, before I broke my leg right and everything, I got a kid. Okay. Youngest. She said, I wanna put you on child support. I said, yeah, okay. All right, who do you want? You want 10 G's, you want 15 G's? Yeah. I want 25. I said, listen, okay, boom. We gonna go to court, all right.  How about a couple months later, I've been paying child support or whatever. Forgot how much it is.  That's what you wanted. I thought you wanted me on child support. You see me mad at me, cause I'm on child support. I don't get it. But that's women though.   She gonna be on the other side. I don't know how to make the group where they can go against each other. I don't think up for a woman to do it. They ain't gonna do it. You know what I'm saying? Man, that's crazy. You don't think up for it, but they don't make no groups to say, stop doing what you're doing either. I didn't get that at all. That was crazy. Listen, niggas pull niggas up on stuff all the time.  Yeah, if we put groups together to help our young men, where's the women that putting groups together to say stop doing these men like that? Exactly. How y'all don't want to hear it. I mean, it has to be a profit to me. Why, you show us here. Maybe you need a trust together. Come here, when you say child support. She put me on child support. And then I'm like, okay, what is it? What is it? You got the money, don't you? Then that ain't enough. I said, I said, all right then.  I said some people, because I was even reading something where 50 cents and his ex, she, he was going to her and saying, cause he wanted her, every man, not every man, that's a lie. But if you're doing well, you want the people around you to do well as well.  And she was like, why? I'm good, because he's taking care of her. So she didn't want to do nothing. She's like, you made it, so it's like, you made it, so why I got to do that? Yeah, why I got to work. Yeah, they called, he made it, I mean, she made it. No, she got to work. I mean, at that point, he knew exactly where her mind was, so he stopped dealing with her. But at the same time, not every woman is like that. All right. Well, not every woman is like that, but again, I got to say, every woman is not like that, where y'all at on stepping up, saying that the other woman is doing wrong. Step up. So you can change it, so you can help change the situation. Yeah, he'll change it. You need a group put together to say, stop doing different things and pull them up. You can't wait on the search to do it. You can start with me, I am a victim. And I'm a victim of it. I'm a victim of it. I was a victim. So if you want to come together and try to go against the situation, we'll put you in the middle of it. I don't know, I don't know. You've been a victim. My child's to put my girl in the middle of it. They ain't going to do it now. You're going to do it too. You're going to get a lot of men and they're going to be supportive. Okay, how about this? This is what I'm going to do. I'm going to start up my segment, a podcast. That's all we're going to talk about on the podcast. Okay, I'm going to have a boy. Make sure you hit me up once you get it going. Get some people on there. And then make sure you bring other women that has been doing these things. Let's put them on the side. I'm going to put mine on blast. I'm going to send it to them and deal with it. Everybody's going to put it on blast now. Because this is what need to happen. And if there's no action behind what people are saying and these people are continuing to do it, whether women or men, you do have men out there that don't take care of their kids. I just don't happen to be one. I mean, neither does my God, breadwinner. You know what I'm saying? No, not with the money. Yeah, so Cain, we doing what we supposed to do. Now, we've done what you was with me. We done what we supposed to do. What about that? Well, let me ask you a question. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Because what a lot of women will say, yes, you're giving money, but are you spending time? I just had to ask that question. With this one, I got my other kids there in Alabama. This kid, he's in Florida. Like I said, she did that with the child support.  I ain't seen him. I can't spend time with you, but I don't know where you're at. Yeah, that's another thing. So it's not your fault. Okay, that's, no, that's good, because. I'm the victim, he's a victim. I'm the victim. That's what you make sure. That's the way it's going to go. Can I ask that question? Here's the question. Because you have some men out there who will just pay the money and don't want to deal with a child. Some men are like that. So that's why I'm waiting for you to go. I really want to deal with my son, you know what I'm saying? He, you know, we talk on FaceTime here and there when she let him. Yeah. Like, so it ain't no issue.  She still want to be with you. You think that's what it is? I don't know. I don't know. Don't go back. Don't want you to go back? The Bible say no man grab a hold of the plow and look back without running into something. Listen, don't go back. Yo, don't look back. I got too much to do. I'm on my, I'm on my music right now. So I got to get to this money.  Yeah, they ain't gonna do it. They can't be in the DM. Again. It's my first interview in a year and a half. And it's the hardest interview ever. Ever. Yeah. Boss talk. No, boss talk 101, what a boss is talk, man. Yeah, man. You know, I just, I appreciate you for coming, bro.  Because you say, I say, ain't that nigga from Baton Rouge or something? Yeah, everybody think I'm from Baton Rouge. I said, what that nigga from? She said, I said he over there. I said, Brandon, nigga to me. You know what I'm talking about? And she said, well, he can't come. I was hurt yesterday. He was called. I was like, ah, some came up with saucy. You know, when that happened and everything, the situation, RIP takeoff, man. We had to take a day or two of break off there. So that's what threw it off. Threw it off. Yeah, for sure.  And then me going and look, I said, man, that's who I'm looking for. That's what Gutter TV say. He say, man, he say, this Gutter, man. He say, that's why I like boss talk cause it was real talk, you know what I'm saying? And it don't be no stage this. Like when you first came in, you were like, I did this, this, and I'm like, nah, let me put my wife in here cause we for the talk. Cause I want to talk to this dude, man. Yeah, I want to talk. She done broke the chastis for it. I earned me.  Remember, she supposed to be the spokesperson for the people going against them while you're doing y'all wrong. Yeah. Hold her to it. I'm holding her to it. I'm holding her to it. Yeah, hold her to it. The wife say she going to do, I'm a backer. We going backer. I'm a victim. Man, me and you. I've been a victim. We a victim. Man, we need some, some, some, yeah. You a victim too. See, you got a member while I'm popping up. This is my phone now. No. Steady. About nothing.  What would you like to ask my boy bread wanna came, man?  Man. He gotta just spoke on it. I ain't got no problem. He went in here.  He's Boosie. I've been knowing him for a while before I started rapping cause he used to come to the city. So the radio station going, anybody come to the city, you famous or whatever, they gonna get in touch with me. So, he also signed my little first relative, his name D. Rogers. He from Huntsville too. So that's how me and Boosie really linked that in. Huntsville, how far is that from Atlanta? Atlanta, three hour, three and a half. How far is it from Birmingham? It's like hour. Oh, so I'm right there at you. I'm gonna come see you. Yeah, hour 45. But do you, do you even be over there anymore? Yeah, I'll be over there. I'ma pull up. Pull up, come on. I'ma give you my number now. I'ma do that too. Wherever I'm at. I'ma come see you. I'ma come see you. I'll be in Tennessee. We the same way. I'm going them three. I don't really go to back to Baton Rouge or New Orleans that much. I'll be on the West Coast sometime. Not since I broke my leg though. But I know all the artists up there, man. Shout out to 211. Yeah. You know what I mean? R.P. to Slim 400. Me and Slim 400 did that McAvelli song. Why are you in there? We got a video. You ain't looking at my videos, bro. I looked at the new and then I seen the core Southern thing. And I was like, this is what I like to do. I'ma talk about it, you know. But I really, to be honest with you, I was let down. Okay? At first I was told he ain't coming. Right. So then you had to back up a little bit. Then I'm like, but yeah, I'm telling you because I got excited as hell when she first told me. I went right to looking and putting on. I said, why didn't they got an interview anywhere? Then what is N***a B? Can't even talk about it. Then I seen your After Porch, I believe. Yeah, I was After Porch in DJ Smalls. DJ Smalls. I seen both of those. DJ Smalls. I didn't listen to them, but I seen them. I did hip hop weeklies, hip hop United. She used to work right for hip hop weekly. And then she got her own thing called Hip Hop United. That's hard, man. Like I said, how important is the blogs, man? Man, very important.  That's what I'm thinking with the blogs right now. It's very important when you're dropping something. Wow. Because how you gonna market it?  What did you think about Dallas before you even came up?  Man, not really. Okay, so when you look at Dallas and you think about Dallas, what comes to mind? Man, you know what? Dallas, I think of the Cowboys. You a Cowboy fan? Nah, I'm a 49er fan. Oh, damn! I'm a 49er fan.  You know, my relative Roland McClain played for the Cowboys. I was a Dallas fan. Then I love Emmys Smith too. So I really can't never say I'm not in this. You like it at a point. Yeah, they all right. They okay. Cowboys all right. They okay. You don't like nobody. You just hate them.  You over them up. Nah, I told you, I'm cool with the Cowboys. Just say fans.  Yeah, we don't care about losing. We still number one. That's what he don't like. Nah, it ain't that.  What do you mean? Why do you have to have a fight? Like a fan. For what? They fight after the game. That's all.  The Cowboys lost, not you. Yeah, but they just be talking. It don't matter.  No, that ain't true. We know it wasn't true.   Man, how many things you think caused fights when the niggas said, man, your mama niggas? That caused a lot of fights. You say your mama niggas get a man. Not a money. Hell, right. Even you a little? Nah. Yeah, we put the stick on the shoulder two back in the day. I ain't really close.  Try to fight, yeah. I ain't had no problems. So man, like, so you gonna come back to Dallas, man, I gotta come down there to get the interview. I'm gonna come down there. Because I come out there. I don't, like I said, I went to Atlanta what, three times? My brother-in-law lived. My brother-in-law lived in Atlanta. Yeah, so I'd be coming through. So I told you I did the one in Birmingham for the foot soldier lady. She old. She like 70. What's her name? Pro-P-Sum, ain't it? Paul Leta. Paul Leta. She right there by that green, right next door. You got the chicken place in the in the up place. That's her place right next door. And they be talking about all the history. My kids grew up going through that when we go to Atlanta. And so they, she love the kids. But at the end of the day, I'm gonna come down there and rock with you. Come out there, man. Cause I'm gonna interview, you give me a couple of interviews out there? Yeah, for sure. Whoever it was, whatever you did. Yeah, who you want me to give for you? It don't matter. Whoever it's gonna be a good interview, no matter what, we gonna have fun. For sure. That's the, we went down the gutter down in Little Rock, we went out in New Orleans. We did, you ever go to New Orleans? Yeah. You know, peaches, I interview their peaches. That's where I set up at. I've been at Juve, we got a new Juve Tuesday. I've been telling him I'm coming out there for Juve Tuesday. He got a Juve Tuesday? Yeah, he been trying to get me to come out there and do some recording.  But that's my guy, like we on the phone. So that's how I end up over there. I interview him and Mack and all of them. So I love to go places and, you know, link up with my people, man. For sure. I'm gonna come see you. Like this nigga, K.A. ain't got nothing there, man. Come to Huntsville. What you gonna do?  I'm just gonna go and I'm just gonna come and set up. Yeah, I'm gonna set up. I'm gonna set up and just have a good time talking to y'all. Just get me to get some people to come through. Yeah, that's it. You gonna be my host. You gonna be down there with me.  Let's do it. And some good food. Yeah, that's the food. Man. G's country kitchen, man. You gotta hit that G's. G's. G's country kitchen. That's the soulful spot. So who do I hit for the greens? Oh, man, but I wanna hear about it. He got you. Yeah, you good at it. Top three out there. Have I ever let you down? On the green when we go places, them niggas always got it. No, you worry about it. You good. Top three artists of all time, dead or alive. You know, Tupac, number one. Number one, you see him right there. I don't keep him in there. You got Tupac. What? Big poster. Man, you know, I'ma give it to you like this. Number two, my favorite new rapper. I gotta give it to, I'ma give it to you. It don't have to be a rapper either because she be trippin' on it in general. Top three artists of all time, dead or alive. My top three. Your top three. Tupac. Tupac. Don't have to be a rapper. No. I like Michael Jackson. Yeah, that's the one everybody's saying. Number three. Let me see who else. You got everybody else for this number three. Damn. I'ma have to say shit, man. I don't know, that's a hard one. I can say Jay-Z, I can say T.I. Jay-Z? No, you can't say no. No, I said one. Jay-Z? Which one? Who, Jay-Z? Jay-Z? Yeah. All pretty, man. Me, Jay-Z, man. I've been giving Jay-Z a tough time this week. I wanna apologize. I gotta apologize. Jay-Z was my error, because I made a lot of money mentioning to young Jay-Z. What you mean? You ain't doing nothing wrong. No, cause, well, you know, some people.  Yeah, blood, rock, came through. Jody Breeze, they telling all these people. You ain't nobody saying that. Everybody doing everything in the game, man. You know what I'm saying? But the nigga music was motivated. Oh, yeah, it was, motivation. And during the recession, Jay-Z killed it, it motivated everybody through the game. He did, you know what I'm saying?  That was on him. Salute, my nigga. That's real. Cause you signed up for it, right? Yeah.  No, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on, hold on. Let me get some real stuff. Don't forget, I was around. Hold up, 211 got pushed back. Blood roll actually was on. Oh, yeah, man, watch it, brother. Where your money at? So you got invested. The roll was USDA. He was. 211 didn't get no air. No air time. Now, motherfucker, blood roll. Where your bread at, homie? So he supposed to have that bread there. Where your bread? You had them big-ass USDA chains on. I know them diamonds, real. I didn't want you to stop. Oh, damn. Man, I got a studio since I got to go. You and Jeff had to get live, right? We been going all the way. Jesus, my nigga, man. You know what I'm saying? That's hard, cause I ain't. Baby salute, baby bird, man, slim, too. Yeah, you met bird, man? I gotta ask you this, both of you get off this panel. I gotta ask you about, I think I seen you speak on, was it Young Greatness in the comments? Man, yeah, Young Greatness. I love Young Greatness, man. That's my dog. You know what, I met him at the BET Experience, but we been knowing each other from Atlanta, but I kind of talked to him more at the BET Experience. Got killed out today. We supposed to link up, man? Yeah, cause I met Paco with Paco and me talking. I was in New Orleans. That's good to do.  That was in New Orleans. So that's what I say, man. He another victim of violence. Yeah. This is crazy, man. But I just want you to know, man, there ain't no cap, man. I'm really, I'm gonna come see you. I'm gonna rock with you.  You a real one for even coming on my show. I ain't nobody. You know what I'm saying? But you can't hardly let me go. Everybody's somebody, man. No, but I mean what I say. Everybody's somebody, my brother. I'm just a nigga, I get it, but I'm just a nigga from humble beginnings. You know what I'm saying? So I don't look at it like I'm this, that, but I'm saying you didn't have to come here and you took your time out to come here and bless our show. So thank you so much, my guy. You know what I'm saying? Respect, appreciate y'all, man. Check it, man. We love you, bro. How can people get a hold of you? You can reach me on Instagram, K-A-N-E-B-W-A. Real talk, man. Real talk. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. What a boss' talk. Spell.


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Well, good morning everyone and thanks for being here as we come to realize over the last year many of Vermont schools and child care Facilities are in older buildings, which means lead from piping and plumbing fixtures can get into the water With this understanding the health department piloted a lead testing project during the 2017 to 2018 school year. Keep in mind this was prior to the passage of Act 66 Where we asked 16 schools to voluntarily allow the state to test for lead in their drinking water Of this small sample lead was detected at all participating schools and about a third had at least one tap Above the EPA's action level of 15 parts per billion The state worked with the schools where elevated levels were found to replace or permanently take out of service affected plumbing fixtures The pilot project demonstrated the importance of going further in testing every tap This ultimately led my administration and the legislature to agree on the need for statewide testing The budget adjustment of funded this effort and on June 17th. I signed the legislative proposal Act 66 into law it requires all public and independent schools and Excuse me and all license or registered child care facilities to test for lead at every tap Used for drinking or cooking Health Commissioner Dr. Mark Levine agency of natural resources Secretary Julie Moore and a team from the Department of Environmental Conservation are here to update you on where we are at this point This work is a critical part of our responsibility to protect the health of Vermont's children Keeping them safe from exposure to lead in drinking water At two places where they spend a lot of time Which is so important because science tells us the brain develops immensely fast for kids at a younger age The statewide effort is a collaboration between the health department the agency of education The department for children and families the Department of Environmental Conservation in the approximately 440 schools and more than 1200 child care facilities where testing is being conducted And it's well worth the effort We are working not only to protect the health of our children, but to promote their future successes as well So I'll now welcome dr. Levine to provide an update on these efforts at the Levine Thank You governor Reducing the risk of lead poisoning children is a top public health priority Here and around the nation There's no safe level of lead in the human body at any age Leads a neurotoxin And children are as the governor pointed out at special risk because their bodies absorb Lead more easily than adults Exposure to lead Can slow down a child's physical growth But it also can cause developmental learning and behavioral problems While the effects of lead poisoning are irreversible Lead poisoning itself is entirely preventable In vermont in 2018 420 children under the age of six were poisoned by lead The major source of lead poisoning is paint In older housing But lead in plumbing pipes and fixtures can add to a child's overall lead exposure So that's why this project is of such tremendous importance and worthy of the tremendous amount of work That's required in testing every tap in every school that is used for drinking water And then of course remediating them when needed And this is at more than 1600 schools and child care locations When lead is detected above the threshold Add or above four parts per billion in drinking water By law now The school or child care provider is required to stop using those taps for drinking And cooking and take corrective action to reduce the amount of lead in the water And our experience thus far The fixes are relatively inexpensive and very effective at reducing lead levels We're thankful for the support and collaboration of the governor with the legislature in passing act 66 And for the collaborative effort of multiple other state agencies The department of children and families for one has been very instrumental In contacting and providing technical assistance to all child care providers And they will continue to be More than 300 have already tested their taps And you can see the results on the website that will be demonstrated for you shortly The agency of education has helped direct communication with the schools We were able to test five schools early before the close of the school year this year And the rest are being scheduled now to begin testing when the school year begins and then continue throughout the following year The department of environmental conservation of the agency of natural resources has the critical role of providing invaluable technical assistance With remediation actions And follow-up test results And as you hear Their staff from the agency of digital services are responsible for the website you're going to be able to view real time And I want to also thank the dozens of experts we have at my own health department Who've been working so hard to manage this very complex project They've created the extensive public information and communication materials Instructional videos for the school staff and others webinars and in-person trainings guidance documents, and they continue to Review tap inventories that schools are sending in to comply with us every day They've also coordinate the logistics of getting test kits to and from the schools And the child care facilities and they've analyzed water samples and reported test results This work is reflected on our health department's website at healthvermont.gov Slash led test dash response I'd like to now introduce julie more the secretary of the agency of natural resources Good morning water is a critical resource to the state of vermont and we're committed to making sure all vermonters have access to clean Safe drinking water staff from the agency of natural resources and department of health As you've heard working in partnership with the agency of education and department for children and families Schools and child care centers statewide are working to sample and for lead and make sure that drinking water is protected In vermont many of our buildings are older, which means the plumbing is also older and fixtures are more likely to have lead As we've heard today lead does not come from the water itself Lead contamination happens when the water reacts with various pieces of plumbing some of which may contain lead Not many child care facilities or schools have led service lines or led pipes But we know that there can be high leg content and things like older solder and brass That's why the state of vermont is making sure that every outlet that is used or expected to be used for drinking or cooking at our schools And child care facilities will be sampled Actually, two samples are being collected at each outlet a first draw sample Which is water that sat in the pipes for eight to 18 hours Which is part of the reason is dr. Levine alluded to that we need to do this work when schools are in service We don't want that water to have sat indefinitely, but for a finite amount of time And then a flush sample Where the tap is open water is allowed to run for 30 seconds and then a sample is collected If the reason we do this is to investigate what the likely source of the lead is Whether it's the fixture or some plumbing component deeper in the system If lead is found above four parts per billion in the water at one of these facilities that outlet is immediately taken out of service Many of the solutions to high lead levels are easy and low cost They include things like replacing plumbing fixtures, removing redundant or seldom used fixtures And encouraging the use of centrally located well maintained bottle filling stations Once the fix has been implemented the tap will be retested to ensure lead levels have been reduced And for families and community members interested in tracking the test results We've created a user friendly website where this information can be viewed The results are organized by facility And on the website will also note the steps that the facility has taken to fix any outlets that tested above the four parts per billion threshold The results are available online at ledresults.vermont.gov and posted as they become available And patrick southern um from the a n r a d s team will now demonstrate how parents families and community members can navigate this website I'll just briefly get set up first Okay, no one look at my password I It's not password All right, so i'm patrick southern i'm with the agency of digital services and i primarily support the uh drinking water folks in the Department of environmental conservation building software and things like that What we've done here with our various partner agencies involved in this project is we've set up As julie said a user friendly website that's available publicly accessible So anyone can go on and search for a school or child care And see the details of what the school has done in terms of testing What results are available and any action that they've taken if they had a result that exceeded the action level So that website is available as julie said at ledresults.vermont.gov And if you go to that website you'll see this search page when you first get there This provides your way to search by school or child care name or a piece of it if you know it by town And you can specify if you want to see schools child cares for both So for this example Let's just search everything and see So you can see there's a bunch of schools and child cares that have tested and the results are posted on this website already We'll choose the first one four corners children's center And when you do that it will bring you to a page that will give you all the details of what this school has done So at the top you see some general information about act 66 and How to interpret the results you're going to see And then you'll first be presented with a tap summary table So this organizes the All of the information by individual tap So you'll see one row for Every tap that was tested and you'll see associated information like the most recent first draw sample The most recent flush sample When those samples were taken and when they were analyzed And for this first one you can see it exceeded the action level of four parts per billion So it's in bold dark red And as a result this child care was required to take action to address that Action level exceedance And you can see the action they took was to replace that fixture that was permanent action And they took that action on august 30th 2019 The only other features of this public search website Is if you are pulling this up on your phone right now anyone You'll first be brought to a tap summary cards page So this is just the same information you saw on that table But in a mobile friendly view so you don't have a table going all across your phone The other thing that's on here Is all results if you want to really dive into it Or if anyone wants to dive into it and see every sample that was taken They can get that here and they can export this to excel if they want to do further analysis And then I'll just mention You saw the Fixture replacement action taken here. This came from the authorized users for this child care center They put that they put that information in this remediation form that's available here And it shows up on the website what they put and there are frequently asked questions available That's all I think Thanks So Oh, we can open it up to questions at this point How many schools and child care centers have been tested since I think it's been a five of the schools. Is that correct? schools and Five schools were tested in the spring But there are schools like the ones that participated in the pilot Whose results essentially will count towards this test. Okay, so we had yeah 16 facilities before Five five before they shut down for the summer Some of my frustration was Why can't we test during the summer when we have time to do this and and I was told that we would get a false reading Because you need to have that constant flushing and the water working through the pipes So it would be ineffective in some respects So we had to make sure that the school the schools were back open And that's why we'll we'll start again in september. So this is really just getting started Very much so But we're we're at a point. I believe it gave us an opportunity to try this out to get the The the site all set up get the department Ready to go the health department ready to go So I I believe we'll be able to hit the ground running and be able to take care of a number of these In a expedition expeditious fashion when we do start back up again And the silver lining about you want to come up summer Silver lining about the summer is we will have the majority of the child cares already done that are open to year-round So that's a huge chunk of Lab results that will already be available on the website And like in this example when an action is taken this this fixture replacement. Is there a round of retests to make sure that the action worked? Yes Yeah, any sample That is above standards where remediation is applied other than permanently removing the fixture from service It it will be retested with both The first flush and second draw samples to confirm that the the action had the desired outcomes Some of the schools that participated in that initial pilot There was an iterative component to some of their work. So when it's the fixture, it's very clear oftentimes You take that that tap out of service and replace it and you see instantaneous results when it's deeper into the plumbing Sometimes it takes a little bit more of an investigative approach And so there are instances where it's an iterative process So five schools around 300 child care centers so far as you look at the results Um, are they better or worse than you expected? Ben Montrose from our drinking water program is probably best position to answer that. Yeah, come on up But going back to the 16 schools that we tested initially It led us to to believe that we're going to see an issue Just because the large number within the the sample of 16 in that pilot program Uh, that we'll probably see more as we go along and it's probably I don't know if it's geographically or depending Depending on the school and when it was built and constructed That that probably will have an effect as well, but please So i'm going to bring up david grass with me who's my co-part With the health department. Um, we are seeing certainly we've seen Facilities and buildings that have had high results We've seen a lot of the child care centers that have a lot of times it's in home So it's the kitchen tap. It's something that's probably a newer fixture. It's been used a lot the results are quite low So we've seen everything, you know across the board. I think overall I haven't been overly surprised by anything that we've seen certainly so, you know It does depend as the governor said on the vintage of the plumbing and the pieces and parts So it's really up to excuse me up to the tap by tap to see what what's there It's not this school is entirely bad. It's that wing may have been high or those couple taps may have been high I mean, would you say of the taps that have been tested? 5 percent more above level so so It's been consistent with what we saw in the pilot testing So all five of the schools that tested in the spring had at least one tap that was elevated above the action level Four parts per billion in terms of the child cares About 10 percent of the child cares that have tested already had at least one tap that was elevated above the action level And again, that's about what we were expecting And so what does it tell you if you have a facility where one tap Tests fine And the another tap in a different part of the building is over the limit Does that help you identify what the cause is? It's it's a it's a fixture. Uh, keep in mind. You know, it's it's a faucet It's a water fountain. It's something of that nature. So the fixture itself Could be suspect it could be something within the fixture and that's why it needs to be replaced But if it was throughout the whole system, it might lead you to believe that there's something further in the piping as at the inlet of the School or wherever it is, but but typically I think it's the fixture itself Yeah, I've said it Uh, the the the lead content standards and the plumbing regulations have changed over time So if it's an older fixture, it may have had 50 50 lead tin solder If this was up until the the early 80s If it's been installed since then it's had less lead content if it's been installed installed since 2011 or so It's been even less lead content and the lead is in the solder. It's in the brass. It's in various pieces and parts So if if they've replaced the kitchen faucet in the last decade should be fine If it's an older fixture from the 60s or 70s, it may have higher lead solder So it really is, you know case specific by each individual outlet and who's paying for the remediation Well, there is a program in place. There was money allocated for that. I think I believe it was a little over a million dollars But it's a sliding scale. There's some participation That was is required depending on the on the school and the size and so forth. I think I don't know all the details of that But there is participation from the state and then we'll see You know, we didn't know what the magnitude of this was or is at this point So we'll learn more as we go along If we find that it exceeds the amount of money that we we have available We'll obviously have to go back and ask for for more in the future is to help with the remediation, but You have more details you want to add on On that sure Very specific So The state will pay for the cost the actual costs up to $1,800 for public drinking fountains and ice machines $650 for outlets used for cooking $350 for all other outlets in schools $400 for all other outlets and childcare providers But does that cover most of the costs? For like one random faucet, that's very easy Yeah, if you think about just a faucet in your home, it's you know under a hundred dollars I was going to ask you about the homes too. There's always been this concern about lead paint Is there any in now shopping about fixtures and faucets and homeowners aren't really aware of that? Are they? Is this something that might Be a concern in the future for residential Or has the state ever done anything related to that? State's never done it. I don't know of any state that's actually done anything in that regard, but you're right Whether you're talking about older faucets in the 60s and 70s that have not been replaced or whether you're talking about housing that was constructed prior to the 80s and painted And not remediated those paints most likely contain higher levels of lead than we'd like to see So we always know about children who themselves tested high for lead and there's a program that assists their parents and the homeowners essentially and Investigating where the source of that lead could have come from and make sure that if it was paint everybody's aware of it but not just in general across all homeowners But it would also find the source of lead in if it's in the pipes or in the faucets Yeah, if some if some child actually tests positive a complete Investigation is done I mean, that's you're right. Education is critical. So we've done a I think As good a job as we can as a state in educating the public about the dangers of lead and where it comes from And most of the time the focus has been heavily on the paint But now I think everybody's much more aware of the water issue Which we estimate may cause about 20 of the burden of lead in a child's body If they have a significantly high level This is always dangerous, but I'm going to ask the question anyhow And Can can homeowners Take their own samples and send them to the department of health for for analysis so The health department encourages all homeowners to test their test their water. We have a test your tap campaign And that encourages homeowners to test every five years for certain contaminants every three years for other contaminants And and lead is one of them and it could be that you are on town water and the water coming into your home is great Great quality, but the lead is getting introduced in your home, especially if you have those older fixtures And so it's important to test unless you test you don't know Julie, this might sound like a strange way of asking this question I think it's a weird one because you're both the head of and are also a mom And I wonder how moms out there should receive this information when they hear that Only a handful of schools have been tested, but each one found at least one tap to be a potential threat How do you hope they? receive that info I think It's important to keep in mind some of the context that dr. Levine provided that lead in drinking water is but one source and that lead paint is really the most dominant source In kids where we're seeing those high lead body burdens That said lead is is invisible, right? You can't see it. You can't taste it And so this sort of testing is david just alluded to is essential to understanding what's going on in our drinking water supplies And I would hope parents would have be pleased to see the state undertaking a comprehensive initiative to make sure that we are doing our part To reduce exposure to kids to the extent possible in these places where they they spend a lot of time I think the fact that the fixes are relatively low cost and straightforward should be reassuring to folks knowing that this work will be done Excuse me and done quickly I think it's also don't go away I think it's also important to note that the federal standard is much higher Than the vermont standard is at this point. So this should give vermonters I I guess some sense of security knowing that we're going to a different Much stricter standard For for detecting this and highlighting this so I think is it 15 parts per billion correct is is the federal standard and ours is much lower Right ours is anything that it exceeds for and it is in recognition of the point dr. Levine made that there There's no safe level of lead exposure and we know that some of our most sensitive and vulnerable populations are those that are in our child care facilities and schools If the school has found to have led is there a time frame they need to fix this by a month or a week or Yeah, it's as I understand it it's shut down Immediately if there's a if there's a fixture that's uh exceeds the limit We the fixture is shut down Then so they have to they have to either repair it or not use it So it's a media right and we we haven't seen a systemic lead issue where an entire every Outlet in an entire facility has been above our action level of four parts per billion So generally there are other faucets or taps that folks could go to in the interim while that work is being done But bottled water is also always an option if if we were to discover a systemic problem in a particular location But they're required to fix it They are required they're required to take it out of service immediately To the extent that they don't wish to return the fixture to service You could imagine if you're a school and you had dozens of water fountains or bubblers You may choose to to leave one out of service rather than replace it But it can cannot be returned to service With with a fixture that's known to have high lead levels other questions I have none Uh, what is your reaction that court Granted a preliminary injunction against woodside Requiring some changes to policies about restraints and seclusion practices. Uh, what is your reaction? Yeah, obviously unfortunate The incident itself is unfortunate Um, we've been talking about woodside with the legislature Legislative leaders over the past session Trying to come to some conclusion about what we want a woodside to be Either a rehabilitation center or a detention facility Or a combination and we're still working our way through that and and working with the legislature to come to terms with that But obviously, uh, we own this. Uh, we're going to do better. Uh, we uh, we thank the court for for offering their advice and opinion And we'll adhere to that arguably this had been sort of Something that had been known for a while. There's been a lot of criticism About these practices before this ruling. Why wasn't something done before? Well, we we believe that Something had been done along the way, but just not quick enough and Again, we own it. We need to do better and we'll move forward from this when you say that what have you Um, you mean what we've done in the past I the the Department of Child Children Families and Corrections have been aware of this issue and and have Taken action and rectified as some of the situation obviously this incident That I haven't seen I've just read about Is something that uh, that we can't tolerate. We should do better With all the recent shootings around the country do you have any Second thoughts about vetoing the waiting period here in Vermont? Yeah, well the the waiting period legislation was geared around suicides, it wasn't really geared around Mass shootings of this nature as you recall we took a lot of action A year ago on this issue and And it's proving to be the right step to make I believe many other states have followed suit I believe that Sometimes after the fact when you look at other states like Florida and Arizona and so forth I think we we did what we we thought was right and and I'll stand by that And this issue that from my perspective The data didn't back up what what they were trying to accomplish It was handguns only 24 hour waiting period And most of the deaths that we've that I've seen that reflects Our people military, which is concerning veterans In an older age, so I'm not sure that this would have helped in that situation Would you like to see congress go back and read state the assault weapons ban? Well, I think congress should take a look and determine that themselves. I'd like to see them take action and it's like Whether it's immigration or or gun safety measures I think we're just waiting for for congress to do something Rather than just this partisan Polarization divide that's uh, that's uh, that's we're witnessing Across our country. So I think that they need to take action on something But would you support an assault weapons ban? Well, you know, I had weighed in on this assault weapons ban issue before You know when you take a hunting rifle a 223 hunting rifle is semi-automatic It's not really a lot different than an assault weapon. It just looks different and the magazine The capacity is different with an assault weapon. So we Rightly or wrongly we'll find out, uh, you know, there's a Supreme court case that will will come to To terms with with the magazine on limits, whether that's constitutional or not, but The magazine limit somewhat took care of that assault weapon issue So when you say you want congress to do something Well, yeah, what do you want to do? Well background checks. I mean red flag legislation I mean all kinds of things. I think that they should they should take another look once we we have Enhanced background checks. I think they really need to take a look at the next system itself Because I think it needs improvement and I think it has to reflect some of the red flag legislation That we've we passed and whether that's introduced in the next system And how quickly I think this is this is all evolving Before before our eyes and something that we have to come to grips with What do you think the blamant law that you signed Serves as a model for what should be done at the federal level? Well, I think it's being looked at I mean the red flag legislation is being talked about the Enhanced background checks are being talked about so a lot of the the Measures we took are being considered or at least talked about I don't know about considered at this point, but at least talked about What is your reaction to the Insurance rates that were approved by the care board? Yeah, again concerning These rate increases are affecting everyday vermoners and and I talk a lot about the affordability of our state And when you see a 10 11 12 increase it affects the folks that are in need so This We're we're again. I think there's many steps that need to be taken some long term Hopefully we're taking a look and seeing if there's some some approach we could take with reinsurance and so forth, but that's That's that's something the agency of human services is working with the our federal federal Folks to see if there's anything we can accomplish in that area, but again concerning and unsustainable But the all-payer model that we've We've been working on that had the pilot program enhanced that We think it's part of the answer long term But we also need a younger healthier population being introduced in vermont. That's I I think that's part of our problem as well As we age we we use healthcare more It just the the usage goes up the costs go up And we don't have the younger healthier population That is uh helping to spread the the burden I mean when you look at the factors in the rate increases you saw an older demographic you saw prescription drugs So, I mean you've got factors out there that I mean, how do you deal with those? Well, yeah, again prescription drugs for instance, I forgot about that but We we took we took some steps as a legislature and the administration working together I signed the legislation for a re-importation from canada The federal government has said well, we're going to try and you know put something forward to to help The states that are interested in doing this And we look forward to working with them pass for I'm going to be asking for a meeting with with the federal human services Agency to see where we go from here because we want to be part of Whatever they put forward and we'd like to expedite it as as as fast as possible So, yeah prescription drugs is a major factor as well. Thank you very much appreciate it