Thank you. Welcome everyone. This is the weekly TSE call. As you all know, this is a public call. Everybody is welcome to attend and contribute. However, there are two requirements. The first one is to be aware and lead by the antitrust policy, the notice of which is currently displayed. And that you saw all know by now. And the other part is the code of conduct. Which governs our behavior. With that done. Let's get to with that further ado, let's get started. First, I want to get us kicked off by reminding you of three different things that are going on. We have the developer news letter. They are always looking for contribution. There is the mentorship program that is going on. They are looking for proposals. So you still have until March 11th to do so. If you're interested, please go ahead. And the last piece is the IBM logic. Global forum was announced. And the call for proposals has been issued. And you have until March 12th to send the proposals. And you have until March 12th to send the proposals. Now, with that said, I think we have one more announcement. This is your cue. Thank you. Hi, everybody. My name is Helen Garno. I am here as a. Now as a contractor. Taking over for Jessica. While she heads out on family leave. For a few months. So I'll be around. Doing some of the other tasks that. Jessica typically does until just about until the end of the summer. One of the things that I, she sort of left me with one of the projects that I'll be taking over is the updating of the white paper, the hyper ledger intro white paper. It is in need of an update. So we're looking to put together a task force to get that done. I know that there has been a couple of names that have been. In the last couple of months, I've been working on a couple of projects that I've been working on. I've been working on a couple of projects that have been shifted to the top of the list that I'll be reaching out to. But if anybody else would like to participate in that effort, please go ahead and reach out to me. Directly. We'll also be updating that greenhouse image. Describing, you know, the picture representation of. Of the greenhouse. So if anybody is interested in contributing or being a part of that effort, please don't hesitate to reach out. If anybody is interested in contributing or being a part of that effort, please go ahead and reach out to me. And I think the greenhouse image as you. Has been subject of quite a bit of discussion. And feedback. You know, a lot of people think it's not quite. Adequate anymore. And this is the opportunity for people to help out. Get a better one. So. Thank you for helping us move forward on this. Yeah, my pleasure. Okay, let's move on. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Okay. As I said in my email, we'll have a presentation from the telecom C group. Before we get there, I just wanted to remind people of the quarterly reports. When I looked at it a couple of days ago, I was putting the agenda together. I realized that quite a few people are not reviewed the Indie. So I just wanted to remind people of the quarterly reports. And so I haven't actually checked before the call. If the situation has really improved. Is there any questions about any of those? And this is a call for action to the TSE members to do review the reports. If you haven't done so yet. Otherwise, do we hear the borough. The report is due. I think I saw Sean. On. So Sean, if there is any chance we could have a report from the borough project. I know we didn't have any in the last quarter because. So I just have denounced that. It wasn't going to be much activity to be expected. It seems like you guys have actually changed quite a bit of code. So I think that would be a good idea. I think that would be a good idea. And the. Insights and activities and the repo. Quite a few lines, of course, I've changed. So it'd be good to know what's up. And. So if a report could be put together and submitted, that would be appreciated. And otherwise, I think that covers the reports. Unless anybody has any comments or questions. All right. Hearing none. Let's go ahead and start with the presentation. So I'm not completely sure who is actually taking the lead on the presentation. Whoever is hyper ledger community. If you could please give me host back. I'd really appreciate it. Sorry about that. Let me do that. So David. Who is going to present. I, let's see, I was just looking through the participant list. It looks like Vipin and Darman haven't been able to dial in yet. They're based in India. So the timing may not be ideal for them, but this, I see Nima Nima. I don't want to put you on the spot, but would you be interested in sharing? Sure. I think. Vipin was planning to prepare some, some slides. So if it's not a problem, let's wait for a bit. If they, if they don't joined in a, in a few minutes, then I can actually kind of pop in and. Okay. I did just email them and let me, yeah, if maybe, I know, sorry about that. If you could maybe. No, that's all right. I think we can. Yeah, we, we can pick up another item before and then switch to the agenda around a little bit. Great. I'll try to figure out where Vipin is. So, all right. So while we are waiting, let's talk about. The, the first agenda, I mean, discussion item on the agenda was again, this notion of common set of labels for repos. And last time I brought it up, there was a bit of discussion, but I realized that towards, okay, but we didn't make any decisions. There is no action. So I don't know that we have made any progress. And I was left. I mean, we, I know that the, I mean, GitHub has some like by their default label, such as good first issue, apparently help wanted. It's not clear to me that the semantic for those labels is always well, good first issue. I think it's pretty clear, but help wanted is not always clear. And it wasn't clear to me whether in, for those who use JIRA, whether we could use these exact same labels. I saw that there is label with good dash first dash issue. I don't know if it's not ideal. I don't know if an alignment is possible. Does anybody know if there is one that we should, that all agree on is good first issue in my opinion. We keep talking about how, you know, what the things we can do to help contribution, you know, from new commerce. And this is one, I think is to be able to consistently, when people are browsing through the different projects, find how they get started if they want to contribute. It's, if the TSC tells me what they want, it's pretty easy for me to fix those labels everywhere. And then I, I have a question after, I have a question that is very close to this, but not identical. So whenever you guys, I don't have any limitation on spaces in the labels. I was wondering if that was. JIRA does not support spaces and labels. That's what I thought. Okay. So we're kind of talking with two of them because. So I think maybe we have to live with that. You could first issue with spaces on the GitHub and with dashes JIRA. You could migrate to GitHub issues. Nice try, right? Let's not couple those two things, please. Yeah, yeah. I understand the motivation, but. And the help wanted one. There is the, as I, when I was browsing around, I realized that, you know, some people think of this as, oh, this kind of like good first issue type of label. And, and I've seen projects where they say, oh, this is, this was like to label something that's kind of tough. And they're like, oh, this is going to require quite a bit of help. So if anybody could help with that one, that'd be great. And it's clearly not intended for a newbie.  And I would be happier if we could agree on which way, which way it is, given that we have good first issue anyway, maybe we can just say, if your new contributor just look for that label, good first issue with spaces or dashes. And that's it. And help wanted. I don't know if we want to define it everywhere or not. But I would think that, you know, we wouldn't label that as something necessarily for newbies, but more for something that, you know, that as I was saying, the use case is you actually need resources to develop something or fix a bug that's, you know, will require quite a bit of time. So that's my proposal. But I want, what do people think? It's a little thing that I thought we should agree on. And just, okay, let's agree on using those two labels. And I don't know if there are others, please tell me, but in terms of, you know, growing the community and making it easier for people to help and contribute, I think these are kind of essential. So any reactions? Daniel. So my experience with GitHub labels is those really are the two universal labels and everything else is highly dependent upon a lot of people's process. Some people make labels for bug priorities. We don't have a standard type of ledger bug priority or security labels that other people might tag security. That might be the only one worth adding, but I think we get that for free with.  So, um, I mean, unless we're going to get more needed gritty into defining release processes, I think this is, you know, the most success we can get with the least amount of effort. Just these two. All right. Tracy. Yeah, so I put in the chat. What GitHub defines each of the different labels to be. We should stick to whatever GitHub defines them to be. Um, so they, besides the two that we've been talking about, they obviously have a number of other default labels that they provide. And I just think that we should use them and use the descriptions as provided on the GitHub site. Do we have to have a label to indicate a bug? I'm a bit surprised by that one. Some people use GitHub issues as a design. So it might list this from task. I, I noticed that we have a couple of projects that are doing exactly that. They're using a plugin. I think it's cactus to run their scrums. All right, but, uh, I think these, uh, this is a good set. Otherwise I'm happy to go along with this with the caveat that, you know, when there's a space, we need to allow for a dash if you use the gira. The only one I guess is the good first issue that's multiple words. So that's not so bad. So can we agree on that set and just record that and. Tell everybody. Because I mean, to make it worthwhile, we have to have at least the documentation be updated and reflect those and say, hey, we're using those. Tax those labels, Look for those. So my proposal is to adopt this set that Thierry C just put on the channel. I see seven people have already said plus one. Is there any objections? Oh yeah, we can do the thumbs up like Bauer is doing on the Zoom meeting. I see a lot of blinking going on. I don't know what that means. How rude. That's the question. So let's say we agree upon this. So how do we enforce it? Is the TSE going to follow up on that? Are we going to look around? Hey, I found an issue which has not marked or is it just a recommendation that we are giving to projects? It's a recommendation I would say and rival want it to kind of help implementing the labels by going around and setting them. So I'm happy with that for now.  For GitHub, yeah. Right, for the place where people are doing stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, anybody objecting to this? Anybody wants to be recorded as abstaining? No? Okay, this is passed. Hart? Thank you. No, sorry, I was just raising my hand to get rid of the other emoticon. I don't know a different way to do it. Yeah. All right. So that's it for this one. Thank you. It's a small thing, but I think it's worth it. So how are we doing with the speakers on the Telecom Sieg presentation? I still didn't see VP in the... Yeah, I'm reaching out to them and I haven't heard back from them either. So something must have come up. I mean, Nima and I can give you a quick update, but as we've said on the list, I mean, I think Vipin does have some interesting information for us about his experience trying to get a lab going for the group and running into some problems. So I don't know, we could either reschedule to next week or Nima and I could just give you a quick heads up and then Vipin can come and share his thoughts separately another time. Yeah, let's do that because I mean, now we have pretty much reserved the agenda, large part of the agenda for this. I'd rather we cover what can be covered now and I'm happy to have a follow up, but it can be shorter than... Okay, Nima, maybe I... That's all right. I actually managed to put together a couple of slides now. Oh, thank you for that. No worries. So I will try to... Well, that's a good job.  I was mainly just grabbing some screenshots, right? That's fine, thank you. Let's see if I'm going to be able to... Hopefully this will work. Yeah, so can you tell me what do you see now? Hypernetic telecom sick. All right. So my name is Nima. So I'm a researcher in Trinity College Dublin. I joined the Hyperledger telecom sick since pretty much the beginning of its inception. So what we really do in telecom sick is a group of people really, mainly from academia, the active partners, but also some partners from industry, from IBM and then some other smaller companies. So we're really trying to figure out what are the trends out there for telecom and then bring in some expertise from our own research, our own kind of projects into the group. So we were initially kind of focused on publishing solution briefs or the white papers. So we first published the optimizing wholesale inter-care settlement solution brief and our recent solution brief is the decentralized ID and access management for IoT networks. So this one will be published in the coming week, which I guess David can give you more information on that. So what we realized, publishing these two solution briefs was that so these are quite a bit of a big project, as in there are multiple people involved in it, often from multiple institutions, industry partners or academics. So sometimes they will take more than a year to complete because of the back and forth edits and so on. So what we tried to do was to, since last year, with the help of David, we started having guest speakers that was quite actually helpful to get our voices heard outside, like even outside the hyperledger community. So some of these speakers, they haven't really worked with hyperledger much. They've been working with blockchain in general and kind of we're trying to both attract their audience. So if they've worked with other projects, so they can kind of publicize these talks and then we would get attendees from those communities and kind of hopefully grow the telecom sick. So in average, we would have between 25 to 30 people in these talks, which is a good number because the core of our group is not bigger than six, five people really. So that's a good achievement, I guess, and we've been having some more interest in the group recently. So this is a good model. I'd say, I mean, not to say we should be a role model for all the other special interest groups, but this could be something interesting for other special interest groups to look into. The other things have been blog posts so we've had more than this. I just didn't have the time to put the screenshots here. So these are the blog posts on the hyperledger website. So this is also a good kind of way of getting our voices a little bit outside the circle of the Linux Foundation people. That being said, we had a couple of more things as well. We were trying to release a couple of proof of concepts from our industry partners, so from IBM and from other groups. So I was actually working with those proof of concepts. So we did take in these proof of concepts from these industry partners and then kind of modified them to some extent and added a little bit, kind of made them more user-friendly in terms of kind of adding some documentation and so on. But unfortunately, we couldn't really get them into the hyperledger labs that they get how they count to me. And Vipin is not here, but Vipin was, I think, a middleman between the hyperledger labs and the telecom sick. So it was just, we're looking to see where was really the problem there and how we can actually get access to the hyperledger labs. Yeah, that's pretty much from my side. I would love to hear the feedback from you. All right, thank you. And Nima, thanks for that.  And I can, I mean, he obviously would have more details. I can share a little bit about what I know. But first, thank you for putting that presentation together really quickly. Appreciate that. And you're right. I mean, I think a lot of the stuff to telecom sick has done is a good model for other SIGs. The guests, I have seen the other SIGs do guest presentations, but in general, that's a really great way to recruit for the group and bring new people in. You know, we always see a bump in mailing list subscriptions and then people who join that meeting and then future meetings whenever we do those. So definitely a good thing to do. The blog post, I think the group again has been really great about sharing what you're doing. But I think the main thing that you're doing that could be a really model is the publication part. You know, I think the two papers, to your point, the papers take a while to produce, but I think those are a nice deliverable that really, you know, adds a lot of value. So I think those are definitely all great. For my understanding of Vipin's challenges with the labs thing, I think there were two. I think, you know, as we've talked before on these calls, he did struggle finding a sponsor for each SIG that I've helped try to get a lab going that's always been a challenge just because they're coming in to the community, you know, from a different, you know, spot and haven't really had a chance to build relationships yet with the people who are sponsors. So that's always been a challenge. But we did end up finding, I helped him find a sponsor. And then I think he just had a couple of issues and just was not getting responses. And then it was just easier to go set up, you know, get up, repose somewhere else and just use that. So I think it was largely just, again, I think maybe a matter of relationships didn't know where to go necessarily to ask questions about the lab and was having some problems. I think getting, I think it was a permissions issue. I think he was trying to add some people to the lab, but it wasn't really straightforward how to do that. And then basically he just tried to go somewhere else. But I am trying to find Vipin. We'll try to get that information from him and share it with a group and some other format, maybe over the TSC list. So thank you. I mean, we appreciate the feedback. And, you know, it was definitely part of the feedback we got from what Tracy gathered reaching out to the SIG chairs is, you know, was there was some friction in the lab process which surprised those of us who are labs stewards because from her point of view, it seemed to work pretty well. The one point that I know is hard is the sponsor. And just so that everybody knows, we have the proposal being worked to eliminate sponsors. It's not done yet. It may not happen, but this is something that has been discussed last week and the proposal is being worked to put that before the TSC. That would simplify a little bit the creation process and the kind of situations that you describe. Is there anything else? Any comments or questions from anybody? I mean, again, the point of these presentations, right, as a quick reminder is, you know, we've all come to the conclusion that there is too big a gap between what's going on in the SIGs and the rest of the community and the projects, especially. And so technically speaking, Nopal intended the SIGs report to the board, not to the TSC. And this has created maybe a gap between the two. And so we're trying to fit in the gap by having the SIGs, you know, reaching out to them and offering to lend an ear, if nothing else, to learn more about what they are doing and what can be done to improve, can be done to improve the collaboration between the two sides of the house. So if there is no comments, I think we can- Yeah, just a quick note on that. Sorry, go ahead. I guess, yeah, sorry. Can you hear me now? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so a quick note on that. So yes, I guess the feedback loop from the SIGs is missing, especially with really the developer community, which I guess should be kind of part of the TSC if I'm not wrong. So I mean, I guess we could give you guys some good input in terms of, really, because we are really in touch with the people who are actually kind of struggling with kind of the performance issues, let's say, that is there with Hyperledger products. They can give you good feedback about, say, like the next talk we're gonna have in the group is gonna be from researchers from Queensland University. So that's gonna be really on the scalability issues of blockchain and how they're struggling with IoT use cases kind of in blockchain sector. So yeah, I guess kind of creating a new channel between the SIGs and the technical part of the project, especially with developers could be quite helpful, I guess. And the Hyperledger labs could be kind of an entry point for that, if we can kind of make it a little bit easier for people to contribute code there. All right, thank you. And just so you know, Tracy did come back to the TSC, we reported on what she had garnered from the discussion with the SIGs. And this is, we have a list of items who are going through, there is actually one. I mean, we talked about the labs earlier and trying to address some of the friction there. And then we have the other points, one of which is on the agenda actually after this. And so, and you know, I very much welcome people like yourself to attend the TSC and participate and help us go through this, you know, we tend to make decisions on their own because we don't necessarily have all the parties around the table, even when it impacts others. So I think if you can participate so much, the better. And I think likewise, Nima, I'm sorry, go ahead. Tracy has been waiting, so. No worries, I mean, I was just gonna really ask Nima, you know, what he thought that the TSC could do to help the SIGs, right? Is there something specific? I don't think Nima that you were in our call when we had that discussion. So, you know, I was looking to see if there was any specific kind of feedback that you had of what can the TSC specifically do to help out the SIGs? Yeah, I guess that that's pretty much what I thought. I mean, like creating a channel between the core hyperledger kind of developers and that the SIGs could be quite useful. Like for example, even between the SIGs, so that I don't think if that kind of connection and channel exists between the SIGs. So if there was, let's say, a bigger community for all the SIGs to come together and then once in a while and then the report to the TSC and then kind of create the feedback loop, that would be useful. And to build on what you're saying, Nima, about having that connection. I mean, Arno, thank you for that invitation for the group members to come to the TSC. But I think likewise, it would be interesting perhaps for TSC members to go to the upcoming presentation that Nima said, see if that's valuable, see if there's anything interesting in terms of, you know, requirements, for example, or technical feedback that you could feedback into the TSC or read the paper that they're publishing. You know, maybe that would be interesting. You know, maybe we could have a two-way, you know, yes, telecom members could come to the TSC, but maybe if there's somebody who's interested going there. And that feeds to maybe one of the ideas that Tracy shared about mentorship. You know, if perhaps there was somebody on the TSC who was a mentor for that group or other groups, that would be help create that back and forth channel as well. That's indeed. Thank you. Anyone else? So on the agenda, the next item is very much in that space, right? One of the items, I picked one from the list that Tracy brought up, and it's referred to as Sieg Request for Support. And if you look into it, it very much follows what we were just talking about. It's like, okay, you know, how do Sieg people can find, you know, help contributors, and sometimes just they want more information, they're seeking information from the projects and they don't have that. I think there's a general problem in terms of communication. I mean, setting up those presentations where we invite the Siegs to come to TSC is a small, you know, it's actually an attempt to try to reconnect those different communities, but it doesn't go quite far enough, right? There are other items that were reported that are also that fall into the category of, you know, lack of information, communication between the Siegs and the projects. So I, you know, I think at this point, this is pretty much an open invitation for ideas and proposals on what we might be able to do to improve the situation. Is this issue significantly different than communications in general with the projects from people maybe just outside who are trying to come in? I mean, are we solving two different problems or is it really one big problem? What's your opinion? How would you answer your own question? I don't know. Well, I don't necessarily see that it's different, a different problem per se than people coming in from outside. But maybe I would agree. I would agree, but I think that's why I kind of tie it to this problem of documentation also information. And obviously what we talked about at the beginning with Ellen, you know, driving the project for the greenhouse, revamping the greenhouse image, you know, also can help there. I note that one of the issues that were reported from the SIG was even, you know, confusion of that very level and mapping between projects and use cases and that kind of stuff. So I would tend to agree with you Mark that, you know, it's a general problem. It's the difference that I see is that, you know, it's hard to get input from the community at large that we don't know that we would like to attract. But the SIG, they're actually well known, you know, entities, they're, you know, people like Nima today, we can reach out and say, okay, let's engage in discussion and see what would help you. And, you know, at least in having this kind of like feeling in the gap in terms of information sharing so that they're more included and then don't have to struggle feeling like they're in a different world altogether. So I think it's fundamentally the same problem, but we have a, it might be easier to tackle if we focus on the SIG's needs and as, because we can talk to them. And then as a side effect, I think the larger community would benefit from solving the SIG's problems. Right, and I agree with that. That was sort of what I was thinking, but I want people to be cognizant that this is really solving a couple of different issues. Yeah, I think that's a good point. Anybody else? All right. If not, we're done with the agenda per se, but there's plenty of issues that are dangling. And I wanted to highlight that. We've opened quite a few items over the last several calls since the beginning of January, basically. And it feels like we're not making enough progress between calls to be able to close on those items. And I don't blame anyone. I'm as guilty as everybody else, but it'd be good to be able to make progress between calls so that we can start closing on some of those issues and make actual progress because opening issues is only the very beginning. We have to close on them at some point. Not to put you on the spot, Daniel, but I saw you actually updated the badging proposal. Yeah, it was the two things I discussed a week or two ago on changing the resolution to the three step where the middle is discussion and being less formulaic about how the CSC has to do it. And I also went through and I updated, I added the renewability to each of the different badges. And I guess the question I have is I'm not sure what the next step from this is. Do I make this into the formal process? Do I bring this into the CSC? Do we vote on it? Do people still have opinions on it and think it needs to be worked out? So my take on this is that if, you know, now that you've updated it, I want to give people another week to have a look at the updated version and then we can just vote on it. And then once it's voted, you know, we can do the GITA PR for me is more like, you know, just make an equal to get it in the final text. But the decision, we can make it based on the proposal you put together. Arun? Hey, I see we've been joining the call. So maybe we just take a couple of minutes and ask specific questions. Yeah, we've been, okay. Let's make sure we close on the, so anybody else on the badging proposal, if you've all heard me, please have another look. And let's see if you have any other comments, please do so on the wiki. And otherwise I'm going to make it, if it feels like it's stable enough, I'll bring it up next week for as a formal proposal for like a decision by the TSE. Hopefully we can get there. If, of course, if, you know, people have more comments or, you know, not comfortable with the proposal, then we can keep working on it. All right. So I don't see any hands raised. So, yeah. Deepin? Hey, hi, sorry for the confusion. I thought this was like confusion with the time zone. So yeah, sorry for the delay. Sorry, I know what that's like. All right, so Nima to get, I mean, you actually did amazing given the circumstances. He put, he managed to put together a few slides and give us kind of an overview of the activities that you guys have been having in the SIG telecom SIG. And then, you know, since you're now here, is there anything you would like to say specifically? You have some suggestions like that's what we are planning in 2021 is more on like to develop more reference architectures so that this can be used by other telecom operators, right? So I don't know how TSE can help in these kind of things whether or any suggestions that should be approached to more standard bodies like ITC or GSMA or some more and how TSE can help us into outreach to more standard bodies so that we can give more arrays from the SIGs. That's what I understand from like, like if he says in CNC of SIGs, like most of the time they did more focus on architectures, right? Instead of use cases. So 2021, this is the plan as well. Like we are adding this, that can we develop more reference architectures and I don't know how from last two years we are as a SIG we are filling this mentorship programs but not getting and I don't know why, but we are not getting any feedbacks as well. Like you can work on this or something. So if we can get some feedback so that we can improve and again participate in mentorship programs as well that as a SIG that will be also good. And also we want to listen from TSE as well that what do you think that should we change something? Should we add something or any suggestions from you guys? All right, so in terms of way you should do that work.  I think for now, if you guys want to work on some kind of reference architecture based on use cases that you guys are interested in, you can do that. And if you want feedback from the TSE, you're very welcome to prompt us sending an email to the TSE and say, hey guys, look, we're working on this. You know, we'd appreciate some input or feedback if you have any. I mean, the channel communication channel has been weak but it is there and it is open. Anybody can send email to the TSE list or join these calls at any time. And if you want to highlight any work you guys are taking on and want to have the input from the TSE, I invite you to do just that. Thank you. And any suggestions for the mentorship stuff? Yeah, so the mentorship, I mean, this is one of the questions we've talked about in terms of the, you know, in general. Well, we don't have an answer yet, but as I was saying before you joined, we, you know, we've got quite a bit of feedback from the CIGS that Tracy gathered and reported to the TSE that we are going through now to try to see what we can do for each and every one of those issues that were raised and to try to improve the situation. Mm-hmm. Thanks. Thank you so much for the reply. Tracy? Yeah, I had a question about mentorship and I wanted to ensure we were talking about the same thing. Are you talking about the official mentorship program that Hyperledger has? Is that the mentorship that you're talking about? Yeah, yeah. Exactly. So, and then is it that you are putting in projects that you want people to help with and you're not getting responses back from the D's? So last year, yeah, last year, last year, we wrote one solution brief on, and then on integrated settlements and we had some code with us which we contributed to on Hyperledger Labs, but that's what we want to continue with that. So that we need more, let's suppose, students or something. So we wrote one project like as a mentorship, as I said, in mentorship program, but of course, there are a lot of things, but at least if we get some feedbacks, like please improve next time this way so that we can apply next year. So we also applied that next year, but again, the same process. So if we get some feedbacks, like what kind of programs you guys are accepting or something so that we can improve and again apply so that we get at least some programmers or students so that we can continue our solution brief into the real implementation as well. Okay, and I know that the mentorship program is currently looking for projects. I see that there's only one submission so far for the year, so it would be good to have you submit. And then I don't think Min's on the call. Might wanna reach out to Min and see if there's any specific feedback on previous sorts of mentorship years and submissions to see about getting information. Yeah, sure. Yeah, I think that would be a good thing to do indeed to ask if there is any feedback from the staff based on the previous years that could help applicants have a better proposal. But thanks for clarifying, Tracy. That shows that we need to be careful with the terms we throw in. When we start overloading the terms, it quickly gets confusing. We had also talked about mentorship in terms of like getting people from projects involved in different activities, labs and the seeks as more like mentors who could help. And that's what I was, I thought it was about. But so, yeah, it's a bit confusing. So, Arun is next. Yeah, that was the same question which I also had wanted to clarify because our earlier understanding on mentorship was different from what we can just say. And quick comment to VPN also. So if you, I mean, there are other groups within Hyperledger where like for example, there are working groups and there are regional chapters who do organize events. And if you do have a requirement where you want people to solve a specific problem statement, then please do reach out to them as well. And specifically since you are also in India and then we are connected, if you can send me out your requirement and we do have an event hackathon coming up next month, I'm happy to share it across through India chapter. Yeah, sure, I will share. Even last year, we gave one problem statement on my pleasure in India chapter. All right, yeah. Thanks, I'll connect you after the call. Sure. Thanks. All right, thank you Arun for this. Anything else? Have any additional information to share about challenges you had getting that lab set up? I know you just referenced the lab, but I know there were also some challenges you ran into. Yeah, I remember we did this in 2020. So yeah, we want to add Nima as a one of the contributor, but anyhow, we didn't get success and then we quit all these Hyperledger labs kind of things because I remember when we wrote this solution brief for IoT, we did all the coding in our public web was not on Hyperledger labs because of problems we faced last year. So till then we didn't try it even after that, that because of that period because we contributed some code for Hyperledger labs, but again, after that we never went back because of problems we faced. So I don't know, I missed from last one year, I never checked even that whether it's improved or not, but yeah, if it is improved, yeah, we will definitely want to try that. Well, I'm sorry to hear of your bad experience that basically pushed you away or drove you to go do something else. In terms of adding people, normally that's a pretty simple process that Rai is happy to jump on and do quickly. I can only imagine there was a problem of communication, the week was not getting to the right person. In general, we use the labs rocket chat channel and all of us towards and Rai helps with all the repo setup and all on it and pay attention to what's going on there. So if you want to give it another shot, I encourage you to try. My observation, and I know this has come up in Tracy's discussion too, and I had said it earlier, but just now that Vipin's on the call, I'll repeat it. I think it often does come down to relationships. I think when people create a lab and they're known already in the community, when they show up in a place like the labs channel, they can get a response. But I often think when unknown people show up or not as well known people show up, they sometimes do get overlooked sometimes when they ask questions. And I think that might be the issue because I think the people coming from the SIGs are less known in the technical community. So I do think, I mean, I have pointed people to the lab channel, for example, and I think sometimes they do or do not get responses. I would like to think that that's not why, but I don't know, maybe we are guilty of that. I don't know that I know of, but for sure at the proposal level, we get proposals from all sorts of people we don't know. For me, it makes absolutely no difference. The chat channel is often because it's easier. When people know you, they tag you, then it gets to your attention much faster. I think that can play a role, but I don't think there's any intent to ignore people we don't know. I'm speaking for myself, but I'm sure it's true for everyone else, everybody else hot. Yeah, so I wanna agree with David and actually go further. I think this is not just a problem in labs. This is a problem in all of Hyperledger and pretty much all of us are guilty of this to some degree where we sort of respond faster and better to GitHub IDs or people we know. And this is not entirely without merit, it's like, for instance, Arno, if you were to submit a PR to one of our code bases or a code base where I was a maintainer, it is probably likely that it is a higher quality than someone completely random off the street. But this also does discourage contribution and it sort of risks people's attempts to get involved being black hold. But I think this is a much bigger issue than just labs. I mean, I can agree with that because I can agree that I've been complaining at least within the fabric project that the maintainers, sometimes they fall and I don't know that it's intentional but it does feel like there is some collusion going on between maintainers who will quickly review and merge each other's PRs and they tend, they will ignore the others, they're more likely to ignore the others. So there's definitely some of that going on and I think that's something that I for sure have been fighting within the fabric project and I've been saying, hey, you should review the PRs in the order they are submitted first and there may be cases where, well, okay, there's this one that's urgent because there's a bug and you need to fix it, it'll take priority but otherwise it should be first in and first out. And mind you, I have had people say, when I started target stack, are you saying we should take them in the org? I'm like, well, yeah, I was a bit baffled that it was a question for some people. Anyway, we have a bit of track but thank you for that feedback though. Those stats are available in LFX, like it'll show you the average time to merge or review and Dano? Yeah, I will tell you. I just have one thing before we close the meeting and request. Yes, please. So I saw that Aries submitted a request to go active. Will that be discussed in next week's meeting or is it gonna be further down the agenda? Oh, I'm glad you reminded me. I wanted to add that to the announcements and to remind people. If you haven't seen it, Steven posted the announcement on the TSC list and I do request everybody or invite people to go and have a look, you can comment, it's on the wiki and I do expect us to start discussing it next week and I will be formally on the agenda and then I don't know if we'll be in position to make a decision yet. I noticed that I haven't had a chance to look in the details of the application for moving to active status but I noticed there were things that were still under work so maybe it's not completely ready yet but if there's any feedback that you guys have, I encourage you to let them know already so that they can address them without further ado. So thank you, Dano, for bringing that up. All right, so on this, I'm happy to close the call with one minute to spare. So let's call it today. Thank you all for joining.


Alright, thanks for staying with us. Now, if you are African American National Black, HIV AIDS Awareness Day is for you. And this day offers the latest updates on fight against the infection and the disease. The MBHA a day occurs every Friday and February at 7th with inspirational stories of survivors, suggestions on how to make healthier, more positive lifestyle choices and details on the latest innovation in education and treatment. And this day speaks to the resilient spirit of of strength, faith and hope in the black community. So this is actually specifically for people in the black community living with HIV or AIDS. You know how it's so interesting that I just see people still just go around doing all sorts of things unprotected and I'm wondering it's like it's like you will don't forget see HIV no get cure. I mean there was another I think I saw recently was it last week I failed was it called another failed drug cure for HIV. I read it somewhere I can't remember where I saw it but they've been people have been trying and trying and trying to see if they can get you know a permanent cure for AIDS. So I mean the best you can do I would say for raising awareness remember the rules you know because that time we were always very careful and conscious but now we still see people sharing clippers, still see people practicing on healthy safe I mean on healthy sex life where you're just sleeping around with everybody they still see people you know ladies the salon going to you know using sharp objects and all of that. So it's a very scary thing but hey what help us. People still do blood work. And so people even do drugs and they share the range. Terrible. Terrible practice. Alright so who are we starting with? Mary let me start with you. Minister of Works and Housing Babatini Fashella has said that he himself does not have cash and I'm just wondering because I came on air as well to say that we're going to a cashless society but it seems like even the government is not ready for this cashless society. So I mean clearly there's something wrong and we need help. This time it's an opportunity for everybody to say they don't have cash. We know that's a lie because something happened to me today when I was trying to put my tire. I only had my last 1000. I'll be saving that money. I had to give it to the boy. Thankfully he had it 200 Naira new notes. He said he had new notes and old notes but the change he gave me was 200 Naira new notes, 500 Naira old notes and the 100 Naira. So I said you don't have 500 Naira new notes. He said madam it's 1000 Naira new notes. Like what you just gave me is what I have. So I said if you give me one five I'll give you 1000. I said eh. I don't want to talk to you especially. I had to leave my money because he didn't have any. He only had 500 Naira and I had only 1000 Naira. It's very painful. So what you can do? You just book it. No no you book. It's true now. What I had planned was if you didn't have change I'll just tell him that you book now. We'll come back. Four more visits and my money so it's like a pain in advance. I will not leave my money with you now. Okay you see we're getting innovative right. Wow. No you have to. If not you will probably lose all your cash. Yes you will. Go out and buy something and you don't have because the 500 Naira new notes and the 200 Naira new notes are quite scarce. So mostly what you will see will be the 1000 and then you give someone 1000 and maybe what you're buying is like maybe 800. There's 200. Guy tells you I don't have change. That thing is always annoying. I'm like. That's what I do transfer. I would normally leave that but now that there's no cash I won't mind. I will not normally leave anything. Give me back my change please because if I gave you money short of your 200 Naira will you accept it? No they won't. So it's a very horrible experience that we practice in this country. Jennifer your story. Canadian male visits and commends Nigerian producing a Gege bread in Canada. Very inspirational. We should clap for that guy. I saw that video. Very very beautiful. So a Nigerian man Olawale Oladapo who resides in Canada has become very popular for setting up a bakery that produces delicious a Gege bread. So he moved to Canada in 2016 and started the bakery in 2018. Now because of the impact that he has made in his community the mayor decided to pay him a visit and we're seeing how different TikTokers or TikTok influencers are posting videos about his bread and commenting him and telling him that he's doing an amazing job. So they're basically influencing for him as well and telling people that it is important that he eats a Gege bread. That's good. What makes a Gege bread? Is there something special? I think there's a special way that the mixture happens. It's not your typical posh, it's all the milk and all. There's a mixture for a Gege texture and I think he got it right. So that mixture is not too much because that's why it's actually affordable. It's not too much. If they start to put all the milk and all those your flavors and whatever it becomes expensive. A Gege bread has a special mix and once you get it I'm very proud of the guy because it's going round. I mean the mayor was very proud. I mean if they had shown the video with the audio he said a lot of things and the plan is and what the Nigerian actually said they said that particular state in Canada they were also very very receptive and they really really helped you know his business. They were they were open to an entrepreneur coming in to grow and that's where you see government comes in in everything. So it's not just to say he is of doing business for people and mouths. You know this guy actually went there and now he's delivering bread to almost the whole of Canada. So the the mayor was even saying that they look forward to him exporting even out of Canada.  This is a country that is ready for you to grow in their country. And with the mayor doing that and paying him a visit and then making the video it's like making him more popular which of course will increase sales, increase revenue, no big expansion. Who would not be happy to live in such a community or a country? Absolutely absolutely and this is what when we say government is ready for the people. This is what we mean. Ready to support the people? Absolutely. So my story is a bit, the heading says that pays 80,000 dollars to become genderless dragon. So this story is a story about a 61 year old father who no longer talks to his son because he became the first genderless dragon and he uses pronouns like day and dem. So the former he used to be a banker. He covered his body in tattoos and piercings in a bid to become the world's first genderless dragon and is speaking out about the dramatic body transformation. And for me this is a quite a transformation indeed because I can imagine why you would want to go down in the World Guinness Book of Records for the first genderless dragon. What is the motive behind it? And this is, you're doing it at 61. He has lived his life. Yes. Why not then when he did 12 years ago? And before he became a banker. So I guess at this point he has maybe planning on retire or has retired and was just wondering what else he can do to either be famous or to have his name down somewhere for something that no one else could. What crisis do we call this? Is this midlife? No, he has passed his midlife. After life. It's quite fun and I can understand why well if my dad was to do that at this age I would also just I don't know what kind of reaction I would have why he would. My father has he has mental stability. This is coming from what I think that at some point in time you think that there's a mental problem here or what is it the attention you would almost want to find out that is that is it the attention is it that we don't come home enough you just want to you you want you want attention from somewhere else you know social media and for me I feel like this is one of the effects of social media. Social media is is creating and you know cultivating a kind of lifestyle that sometimes because he's a youtuber so he's trying to get more views so everybody would do anything it now begs to question how far people would go just to be popular or to be seen as you know that's very disgusting it's it's quite an artistic transformation they use the word metamorphosis. I tried to picture myself in in there like what part of their growing up would have you see the stories that they read like that would just you just think that you know what I think I can become a dragon one day. Then just be gentle as in at least me I aspire to you know own things be lifestyle but I don't understand you know how. I guess people just want to make names for themselves in different ways there has been he, her, and I say they, them, hey. But he's actually for me I think the the truth is for me these things when I see I just see somebody that is very unstable on the inside right that's that's what I call it because I don't know how to define what what I just saw right this is no issue of special special is different this one you have serious volcano erupting inside on your inside yes and you don't even know who you are because I don't get it. I mean the people that you know you want to claim fame they don't even do tattoos on their body not to talk of was it not Kim Kardashian that said putting a tattoo on her body is like putting a bumper sticker on a Bethlehem you know to be honest because she understands that you know whatever it is she has you know come and you would all over your body change yourself to a creature I think he's just going through this there's something wrong on the inside very very clearly wrong I don't know what else to explain okay so there was supposed to be a meeting between president Muhammad Buhari with the state governors you know under the apc that was cancelled the presidency source had said that this meeting was a call because of the nationwide crisis trailing the the central bank of Nigeria's new note policy right so all the governors that were elected under the old progressive congress you know had appealed to him to give I mean to that appeal for a meeting or something so he then appealed to Nigeria's to give them seven days so that they could resolve the crisis for that meeting now that was supposed to come they were supposed to come together and bring like solutions or whatever like put her together to find a way forward was cancelled so on that you didn't see why it was any particular reason tell me why you it's just after the seven within the seven days that the president asked Nigerians to be patient while he has these discussions with him so but he had a brief meeting behind closed those with the chairman of Nigerian governors forum that's him I mean the town wall of Sokoto and the chairman of the Progressive Governors Forum that's Abu Bakr Bogud of Kevin and the central bank of Nigeria got me me fairly and the chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission that's Abdul Rashid Bauer so hopefully let's see what that closed-door meeting would bring out on that note let's go on the break when we come back from the break we want to discuss our bankers stay with us over right back


A very good morning to you. Thank you very much for keeping it Y in the morning. This is Y254. We are coming to you live from the broadcasting house here in Nairobi, Kenya. My name is Ram Maguco. We are also live on our website at www.kbc.co.ke. Fourth Lash Y254. It is the 30th of August 2021. We have a lot in store for you this particular Monday. Oh, he's not alone. I'm also here. My name is Ankara Kayesu, and we are here to light your week and day. Welcome to watch Y in the morning, and we are rolling out starting in style. Yes, and we have a lot in store for you, including a conversation on youth and politics. On my end of the conversation today, we shall talk about politics and youth in leadership. Businessman Jimmy Wanjiggy has urged Honorable Raila Odinga to step aside from politics. What does this mean for the youth? He urges the youth to pick up the mantle, to take up leadership, and to pick up roles in the society. What do you think? Are youths ready to take up these roles as leaders in the country, as Honorable Members, in different positions? Senators, Governors, MCAs. What is the role of youth in changing the society? This is the conversation that we shall be having this particular Monday morning, including a conversation on a review, actually, on the People Daily, which I have a newspaper review with me. I have a copy of the People Daily, and it is headlined there, the BBI Offence. Later, after this, after the political conversation, it will have like an extension of this to see if youths are really ready for leadership. Because no leadership is working for others. You don't only work for yourself. So you need to start now and know if there's anything you are doing to help the community service. Is there anything in particular you do to help the community? How are you making your hood better? Is your village better because you are? I know you went to school Kedogo compared to maybe somebody who didn't, or maybe somebody who is nowhere. The fact that you are watching us, you're watching White 54 means you can understand this language. Some people don't. But now you, who is privileged? Are you helping in any way? What exactly are you doing? I know this conversation is already on our social media platform. So what you do, slide there. Leave a comment on our Twitter or Facebook page, which is at White 54. Then we will read it at the end of this all. But now, Rama, I think we start with this paper. Let's start with the review. We'll then need to review us starting now and get engaged with us at Ram and Go. And that's Sankara KS. Thank you so much. At White 54, always, the hashtag is one in the morning. Engage with us. Let's start with the BBI offense that is in the headlines this particular Monday morning. On the front center, actually on the front page, at the center, we have which way? It is headline there. Which way? That's the question. Now, it's in regards to the second time. Governors who embraced the law, the law change by with the hope of landing jobs in the proposed expanded cabinet go back to drawing boards for plan Bs. And picture there. We have governors of Machakos, Dr. Alfred Mutua, the governor of Mambasa, Ali Hassan Joho, Kaka Mega Governor, Wycliffe Oparanya, Glyphi Governor, Amazon Kingi, Wasengishu Governor, Jackson Mandago. We have also Busia Governor, Sospita Ojamong and many other governors that we are talking about here who are included in this conversation. That story continues on page eight of the People Daily BBI offense. Remember, this comes after a ruling that was made by the high by this High Court. Now, second time governors who had pegged their hopes of remaining politically afloat after the 2022 general elections on the implementation of the BBI have now been forced back to the drawing board following the recent judgment through the passage on an implementation of the Constitutional Amendment 2020 Bill. The governors whose time comes to an end next year had hoped to benefit from an expanded executive. Now the bill, that is the BBI, which was buried by the Court of Appeal a week ago, had proposed the appointment of Ministers from both inside and outside parliament, which is a move that had enticed the 21 retiring governors to support their then anticipated constitutional referendum. Now, Machakos Governor, Dr. Alfred Mutua, who is serving his last time, said some of his colleagues must make decisions based on the current reality. And I quote, it is the new reality that all of us must review our previous strategies based on it. The judgment on BBI requires us to go back to the drawing board and make it and make in individualized decisions. And of course, as Governor Alfred Mutua said, who maintained that his presidential ambitions are still on course. The second time, county chiefs who had hoped to remain politically afloat after the 2022 after 2022 have had to review their strategies. The question is, what next for these governors governor back to drawing board after BBI collapse? You know, there's something about these governors that you need to know that they are very vibrant politicians on their second term. It means they cannot buy for governorship again. They cannot buy for material seats again, but they have big support base. I can equate it to my home governor, who won two terms. So he has a very big political base, but it's like the only position you can go to now is presidency. And they are 47 of them. They feel that if they go back to buying as senators, they will like calm down. It will they view senatorial positions as being inferior to that of governorship. So the only thing they want to do or they think is above being a governor is is being president. But now there are people who want to be president who have been vying for presidency and their chances are slim. So they were hoping that BBI will create more seats so that so that they would scramble for that seat. So that is the dilemma now for most of them. For example, governor Machak, no, Kaka mega governor, weekly for Paranya had stated that he wanted to vie for presidency, but he stepped down in honor of Honorable Isla of Dengar. But now the question is what will he vie for next, considering the BBI ruling by the court of appeal? Remember, this ruling came after the high court had already passed the same ruling. Now it went to the court of appeal. Someone like Machak was governor after mature. Yeah, he's still going to vie for presidency. The question is what are his chances considering his opponents. We also have people who are vying for presidency that are considered to be well off in terms of the masses and the numbers. You know, even I've mentioned about my governor, he's also saying that he's going to vie for presidency. So it's like most of them. But you know, BBI would solve this because BBI was creating more executive posts like Prime Minister, Deputy Prime Minister. So some of them would be slaughtered there. Now that there is no BBI or let's say before it was taken to appeal to Supreme Court and all that, there is a real dilemma for them. But I hope it will be solved because we still have about one year to elections. Six or seven months from now, things shall have fallen in their right position. So according to the people daily, they move by the appellate judges to uphold the annulment of this particular bill that is BBI by the High Court definitely dealt with a major blow to the governors who had high hopes of serving as deputy prime ministers or cabinet ministers by running for parliament seats. So if you're looking at parliamentary seats, you also have Senate seat. Do we have some who will opt for the senatorial seats that will decide not to vie? The senatorial seat now is the Asia fallback. The Asia. But what most of them view this as an inferior post, you know, there's no much resource allocation to that seat. They don't control resources. What they do is like they are like miniapara supervisors of the governors, supervisors of the governors. While in real sense, you supervise what you yourself don't have, you know, it's only practical when you are supervising me, then maybe you get salary more than me or you control resources more than me. But now you are supervising one who controls resources more than you and who looks like is superior than you. So that's why they are avoiding. Some of them are avoiding senatorial post. And some will opt for positions like they want to develop for CSS or other. Yeah, that is the most of them. That is now what they are going to. But you know, you should be politically correct now for you to be a CS in the next government. If maybe Rai Laudinga will take it and pick the CSS who are loyal to him now will help him campaign now. If it's a deputy president, you have to be loyal to him now for you to be. And you know it, you can't predict it.  And what are you going to buy for now? That is the elephant in the room. And at the same time, some may opt to just retire. Because now, if there are no seats, some may opt to retire. But the young people, Mandago is very young, twice young. We turned 51 just the other day. 51 is a very young age in politics. So in fact, you hear them calling themselves youth. We will get to this Wanjigi story. Who is telling Rai Laudinga to step down for the youth. So it's like presumably calling himself youth because he is vying. He wants to be a president or not DMT get. So the question is, is Wanjigi a youth? But I think we are going to get to that when we get to that story. Picture on your screen there. You can see just a few more governors that are on your screen there. Actually, we have these are senators. We have second term governors who had been linked to parliamentary seats include Elgeo Marraquet, Alex Torgos, Jackson Mandago of Wanjigi, who may opt for the Senate seat, Paul Cepcon of Kerricho, who reportedly planned to swap with Senator Aaron Chariot, Boussia's source Peter Ojamong, who is said to have confided to his ministers that he would contest for Tesso's seat, Ocotho Bado of Migori and Narax Samuel Tunae. You can see they are pictured on your screen there. Honorable Alex Torgos, Honorable Ocotho Bado, Honorable Mwangi Wairia, James Ongwai, Honorable Patrick Haimba, Honorable Paul Cepcon. These are people who may need to reconsider their positions come 2022. Well, other governors serving their final terms include James Ongwai, who was who is also who is pictured there, who had been angling himself for key political role in the Goosey community. Patrick Haimba of Transoya, Cornel Rasang of Siaia, Moses Lenolkulal of Samburu, John Nyangarama of Nyamira, Ali Roba of Mandera and Ambu's Martin Wombora, who are yet to hint on their next political move. No, no, no, the question is actually for for most of these people, they may need to reconsider their roles, the roles that they played during the time of their during their tenure, when they were still in power. For example, Sia governor, he may need to check, has he brought any changes in Sia account? Has he delivered? Samburu governor, has he delivered? You know, if you look at Kericho, have they delivered? And these are the some of the things that will affect their elections. So who do you think will check that for them? Because they all think that they have delivered. They all know, according to, like if somebody maybe built just about five dispensaries, he will pick their campaign on that, that I built five dispensaries. Now it will depend on what exactly they want. The elephant in the room is that they are very many, they are very many, you know, they're about 40, I think not many, most of the governors made it to second term, most of them. So about 40 or 30 something of them are retiring from being governor, from governorship. So their problem is now where they are all going to fit. Somebody like Rasanga, okay, okay, Kothobadu said he wants to be president, yes, his own party. In fact, most of them now have their own parties, like the Mandelao chap chap guy, they have their own parties and they want to be president. Just to position themselves, their maths, according to me, is that they want to make coalition with the winning parties, they want to see who is winning and then they make coalitions with them. The challenge is that now how are they going to make, like the DPD president has said that he doesn't want coalitions. If you want to join him, then join him, yeah, that is the challenge on those who want to join on the DPD president side. So for these people are making their own parties so that they make coalition with you, they support you, you consider them for position when, when you get to the state house and all that. Let's also turn on to page five, these are stories that are still concerning parties on what you have mentioned, sort of the DPD president, William Ruto, on page five of the People Daily, there is an interesting story there. I don't care who guards me, says Honorable Ruto. It has started on the front page, but I think he cares. You can maybe read for us and we see what is there. Well, the DPD president but tracks on demands to have the general service unit contingent attached to his residence reinstated says that he is comfortable with any security information.  Century changes do not bother me, says Honorable Ruto. That is a story that is on page five of the People Daily, coming up on your screen there. DPD president William Ruto yesterday backtracked on his demands to have the government reinstate the GSU that is a general service unit contingent attached to him, saying that he was comfortable being guarded by any security information. Speaking at St. Augustine Catholic Church in Bahati, Nakuru County, during a church service yesterday, Ruto said that he, that the debate surrounding the changes of the GSU officers attached to his private residences last week was, and I quote, none issues, was a none issue, end of quote. Now which Cajun should not waste time talking about? I think otherwise he cares. If he didn't care, honestly, honestly if he didn't care you'd have not even informed us that the security has been changed. We got it from him and his contingent that the security has been changed. So if he didn't care I could just get silent when they were changed. So I think honestly, I think he cares. Can you see a picture on your screen there? We have Father Cleopas Osiru, who welcomes the deputy president William Ruto and Bahati, member of parliament, Kimani Ngunjiri for a holy mass at St. Augustine Catholic Church in Nakuru County that is in Bahati. You can see that picture down at the top right corner of your screen there. However, Senator Susan Kehiga warned that Muhtyam Bai, warned Muhtyam Bai saying he will be held accountable if anything happens through the deputy president after last week's events where his security was significantly cut. Well according to the deputy president, and I quote, let me quote what he said, he said that I want to ask you canyons, the deputy president is just one individual, we want to focus on how we can transform the country. Millions of young people are jobless, treacherous, suffering and cannot access loans. That's like what I meant earlier on. His focus is on the hustler. Yeah, bottom up strategy of what, by the way somebody was saying that removing GSU in his security and replacing with the AP. It's nothing, it's just bottom up strategy of security. Bottom up strategy of security. Yeah, there was another that was sent to the IG Muhtyam Bai. By who? From Muhto's office. It was addressed to the Inspector General of Police, Hendi Hilary Muhtyam Bai. Ruto, through his Chief of Staff, that is Ken Osinde. They questioned the changes suggesting that the AP contingent might have been sent to his home with an ulterior motive. But now, now can you marry it with the, what we just said that he doesn't care who guards him? Why does he? Yes, he doesn't, he still doesn't. But why is he writing to complain? But the motive, we should be concerned about the motive, but he doesn't care who guards him. It's okay, whichever, whoever guards him is okay. That's what he says. Then he could have just left the transfers to be what they are because even if they bring NYS people to him, to guard him, it's okay with him. It's okay with him. But that's what you think about this story. Deputy President says that the debate on replacement of the GSU officers at his residence is an un-issue. What do you think about that? Is it an un-issue? Is it something that should concern him? Or is his heart in the right place? The hashtag is on in the morning. We have talked enough about the Deputy President. Why don't we do the story on page four, or the other page five, about Wangigui and Mudavadi. And I think we do page four first, page four. Rayela Mudavadi, bark one man, one vote system. And I want to read a little. Presidents hopeful say, formula would enable Mount Kenya people to enjoy share of their national kek. Little about it, so that's all in democratic movement leader Rayela Odinga and his many national congress NC counterpart. Musale Mudavadi yesterday took the battle to the mount to Muranga and Kiambu counties respectively where they separately sought support ahead of 2022 general election. While Rayela was in Kigumo in Muranga County, Mudavadi pitched 10 things, Gidonguri in Kiambu County. Both leaders used the church function to emphasize on the one man, one vote, one shelling system as a resource allocation which was proposed by the building bridges initiative document which was declared unconstitutional by the court of appeal recently. So Rayela who attended the Bible Fellowship Church in Kangari Township in Kigumo constituency stepped up the vote hunting mission as he took dig in deputy president William Ruto who accused of criticizing the government he serves. In a thinly veiled attack, Rayela said the jubilee administration has been pledged by the disunity saying I want to look for a part that where Mudavadi also okay here. The second line NC leader say the electoral boundary changes would require reflection that the function of electoral independent electoral boundary commission in light of this and without the change of the constitution new boundaries would be created in line of the number of people per constituency. So you see these people are campaigning at the mount and they are pledging that what BBI was proposing you know BBI was adding the mount and region a lot of constituencies because they were using the formula of one man one vote one shilling. Now you know it's not going to take place because BBI was down was thrown out as unconstitutional by the high and appeal court court of appeal. Now they are going to campaign they are saying they will reinstate it in fact Mudavadi is pledging that once he gets to the office of the presidency he will create more constituencies. So I don't know what you think about this story at the picture you can see the RMS chairman that is SK is there with the Rayla Odinga and the Kigumo MP Ruth Mwanyiki they are in the church I think they are singing they are holding some papers here I think they are singing or something but now they are in the central. You know this conversation is all about you know what you are saying Honorable Musale Mudavadi was mentioning that the issue of boundaries is not about the BBI it is about the IEBC and it is about it is a function of the IEBC to look at the demarcations that are there. Honorable Odinga mentioned that he doesn't vouch for people voting or people getting into the tribal lines and Kenyans separating themselves in terms of tribe but if that is the case if the issue of constituencies and dividing the country in terms of the positions of different areas and the sizes and everything's function of the IEBC then that conversation is definitely going to happen very very very soon. But okay let's see what happens because they have they have pledged they have pledged that once there then they will create so let them create yeah and that is what I think the mountain once that's why they voted for the VBI it was expected that because it is perceived that central was now deputy president stronghold it was expected that they felt BBI that they would reject BBI but all the county assemblies from the central accepted the BBI and the experts say they accepted it because they they wanted more constituencies created so that the resources be shared on one man one vote one ceiling basis but that's that Tell us what you think from whom is the issue of the electoral boundaries and issue that requires a referendum or is it a function of the IEBC well according to Honorable Muslim Davide this can happen this can take place the IEBC can take charge in the regards to this they can get the forefront because that is the work it is independent electoral and boundaries. They were giving so also and when on the initial stages of BBI that it is their work I mean talking about IEBC they were saying it is our work to review the constituencies not BBI's work but it is it is it is it is the work of the IEBC but now this conversation I think it was it was mixed up it became a whole cobweb we you know considering that the BBI now came in play and now they're talking about the the different positions that are going to be added and then it became a whole cobweb now I think I just need to understand the difference between the roles of the IEBC can you see to know what is the role of the IEBC also find out what is the difference between what the BBI is proposing and the role of the IEBC yeah I also honestly think that's my opinion that they should let IEBC do it and IEBC should also not be waiting for BBI to start doing it is when they start claiming that it is their work I think by now we should see IEBC doing efforts to help create more constituencies when next will they review because IEBC I think also play sleeping on the job why are they what are they waiting why don't they start reviewing because I think the boundaries should be constitutionally should be reviewed after every 10 years but now 10 years are relaxing and we are not seeing anything happening at IEBC about the boundary review like my constituencies very big very big with around 200,000 voters and even BBI didn't propose to divide it to give us a new constituency so that's why I love science because IEBC would use scientific methods to divide it say how many people are here how many people should be there in one constituency how do we divide it or how do we merge it there was even proposals of merging some constituencies because they are small but the question is from whom tell us do you support the one man one vote system one man one vote do you support that the hashtag as always is why in the morning a tram a guko not some Karakai yes and give us this Wanjiki story yeah there is a story on Wanjiki yes that is the interesting part they are on page five of the People Daily at the bottom Wanjiki asks Rila to quit remember this is in regards to politics businessmen and Jimmy Wanjiki yesterday urged the Audium Leader Rila Diga to quit politics speaking at St. Peter's SHK church in Nyeri Wanjiki said it was time for young people to assume the country's leadership and I quote the challenges we are facing as a country need people with a different world view end of quote is what he said urging young people to step up and challenge the old God and have that have clung to power for decades honorable and now Wanjiki who has declared his intention to challenge Rila for the Audium Presidential ticket during the party's nomination said time for the second liberation heroes to exit the political stage has come and gives space to young and vibrant soldiers for the battle ahead now the question is are you ready well according acknowledging Rila's contribution to the country's liberation struggle Wanjiki said it was time for the veteran opposition leader to retire from politics alongside fellow presidential candidates including Deputy President William Brutal A&C Leader Musale Mudavadi wipe and wipe my question the question I initially asked is who are the young people now you know young people is relative what is the parameter of measuring who is young and who is not young because I know this noble Kenyan want to be president also so I don't know who he wants Rila to live for but you see who do you think he is his argument his argument is that Rila has been in government since 1992 Kalonzo Musioka has been around since 1985 Musale Mudavadi has been around since 1989 while Luto has been around since 1992 these guys according to Honora Bolanjiki he said that these guys have been there for over 30 years in this time they quit the stage to where so technically they have been around like since before some of people watch some people even in here at Wairofa for a moment for over 30 years over 30 years yeah they have been just in the scene and how how old is our multi-party democracy I think it's around multi-party came around 1992 from 92 to now it's around 29 years yeah so these people have been around since multi-party democracy system but even people like who wasn't there who now wants to be president who wasn't there by then who wants to be president they were all there they could be maybe not in active politics or something but definitely they were there so if we're speaking of young people let's speak of maybe those who are in the those who just entered politics who are just active now in the politics people like my former chairman Babu Oweno people like I know Sakaja is also young but now people like that but when you are over 50 and you are claiming to be young I think there's a problem or maybe there's a there's political age or something you know you know the question is so maybe it's talking about political even if you talk about youths taking up the mantle my worry has been just one thing you know it's easy to talk about something when you are on the outside it's easy to critic and actually criticize and not critique because some some criticize some don't critique majority yeah and it is so easy to to throw stones when you're not in the building when you've not put on that shoe to find out how fitting it can be and whether there are stones inside whether it's pinching and some of these youth leaders get into politics and they get assimilated they get get conformed into the patterns that they once were standing against and it is so interesting to see a youth leader standing in parliament representing something that they once vowed to stand against it's called compromise compromise yes and we we talk of youth taking up leadership yet at the end of the day they end up doing the opposite of what they used to say during their campaigns yeah so think age should also come with maybe ideology not just physical age if you have an ideology that you stand against something then you should be consistent with it there are people who are maybe old but they have a stand they have principles they are not compromisable it's true that there are people who are elected on the platform of age that they are young we are taking one of us the youth taking one of them to the parliament and all that then they end up behaving like these old crooks who have a mindset of let us it's our time to eat mentality and all that or just being there valuable for buying and selling so that is what I think we should we should run from but the question is should our youths you know pick up the mantle stand up against the things that they are seeing against the political unfairness that some of them claim to see in the current leadership is it the right time is it high time is it the right time for the youths to even take up pick up the mantle as Honourable Jiggy is saying that you know he wants to pick up the mantle I say Honourable because now he's vying for presidents or once you show the interest you become a Honourable brother this is Kenya oh yeah I heard even somebody vying for MCA in our area calling himself Honourable yeah he should he's an Honourable member he's an Honourable member I think Honourable they are using they're misusing this title just the same way people use doctor you know some people some musicians from my area call themselves Doctor Doctor and today they are not medical doctors and they don't have PhDs so you wonder where they got the title from now Moshi Mewa is becoming another he will take up that title if today I am with you and you'll just call me Rama Guko you'll just call me Rama yes tomorrow if I vying for a seat it will change to Honourable what if you don't get it what if you don't get it I will still maintain Honourable but you are not I will still be that was just the end of this conversation on the release of a review thank you very much for being part of us we are taking a short break we'll be back in a bit we still have more in store for you keep engaging with us on our social media platforms the hashtag is why in the morning at Ram Aguko and at Sankara Kaisu later on we are talking about what exactly oh I want to get the real question so that I read it but we are going to talk about what the youths are now doing what the youths what exactly they are doing to make sure that they are helping they are they have started leadership you are not given what you don't do what you don't do so one day one day so what exactly are you doing now to help your hood to help your community even in a small way Matt McGandney says if you cannot do great things then do small things in a great way yes if you cannot do great things do small things in a great way so what are you doing in a great way now however small it is what is it that you're doing interesting engage with us let's take a dot brick we are back in a minute this is why it's the 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But with our new election system, with open primaries, with ranked-choice voting, we are at the vanguard of this new system. If that system can get someone like Mary Peltola, an Alaska Native woman elected into Congress, then I'm all in.


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Negative gearing is when you take out a loan to find investment property you rent that out but the rent that you get is less than the cost of repaying that loan and so you're actually making a loss. The great news for you is that you can claim that loss to reduce your taxable income so just by taking out investment property and actually losing money means that you can reduce the amount of tax you pay and that's basically negative gearing. So is it good or bad? Oh it's terrible. It's Australia's favourite tax brought really. That's what it is. The reason why it's bad is that it actually gives people an incentive to take out a loan to compete with people who are buying just for a house to live in so that they are in fact competing with them to buy it, rent it out and the only reason they're doing that is so they can reduce their taxable income. It is really a tax minimisation scheme disguised as a housing policy. Most of the benefits go to the wealthiest and it massively distorts housing prices. But they are investing it like it is an investment by definition buying an investment property and if you invest in any other like it's a form of business I suppose and if you invest in any other business you can claim the losses on your tax that's how it works. So these are deductions why should this be any different?  The aim of that business said that investment is actually to make money whereas the aim of negative gearing is actually to lose money. You are not trying to make a profit. You're not trying to grow a business and improve the economy and be able to employ people. You're actually doing this to just reduce your taxable income and also the difference is we're talking about a sort of a finite number of houses in Australia so if I start up a business that's not actually preventing someone else starting up a similar business whereas using negative gearing gives people an advantage that actually reduces the opportunity of other people to own a home. Authorised by Jamie Cole, Australian Greens Canberra.


Hello and welcome to malware analysis for Hedrox. This week, we will be unpacking a shockwave flash file. And I don't want to make another 30 minute video. I think that's way too long, and that's, well, we have a multiple-layered flash malware here, but I won't be unpacking all layers because the principle is the same for all of them. So just to keep it a bit shorter than the last time. All right, so what do we have here? That's our flash file. And we will be unpacking it just using the hex editor. But first, let's take a look at it using static analysis. For that, we have a decompiler. That's free flash decompiler. I will put the download link below. All right, and we open our flash file here. Flash malware was quite popular for a while, and now it's more rare, but it's still in the wild. The free flash decompiler will show you, yeah, basically everything you need. The header data, any binary data, any animations that are in the file, but also sounds. You can also play them, and you can also play the animations if there are any, in this case, nothing. Metadata, of course. And for us, the most important part is the scripts, which is the flash code, the flash action script code that gets executed. And if you know any object-oriented programming language, it shouldn't be a problem to read this. So if you know C-sharp or Java, it's basically similar from just looking at it. This file is obfuscated. We see that the names of the functions are, well, they are not very telling. They don't tell what they mean. But here, this is interesting. This looks like there's also some obfuscation done. Now, it calls this RETE method, and this method calls replace on this function. Where is it? It's here. This is the regex. And the regex searches for one of those three characters, and we have the replace on one of these three characters with nothing. So if you look at these, you basically just have to delete all of these characters that are in the regex to get something that makes sense. I guess the author of this file doesn't like AV companies. Yeah, it's something you might find lots of times that you have bad messages for the AV companies. So OK, if you want to see or de-obfuscate this, then it's basically enough to use a hex editor. That's Flash Action Script. All right, and we might want to do this as well. So I copied it all here in one file, and we will use the regex right in here. Where was it? This is the regex. And Notepad++ also has the option to use regular expressions, and we can now do the same.  So I say replace all, but maybe only on that part. I just want to do it on this part of the file. So OK, replace all. And now it makes much more sense what we have here. All right. This has to be replaced with right. PlaceWave, right. This has to be replaced with add, and this has to be replaced with eventListener. Now it looks better, just some leftovers here. OK, I think this looks good. Now these local variables are assigned to this. And so let's check this. This is how it looks like now, not that safe. So basically, we did what this function is doing. We can actually remove it. And that's all that's left. Now this is used throughout the file. It's like the replacement for these functions. So let's say the function or method char code add is basically this variable. And it's used here, so you don't know what it actually means. And for that, you have to replace these with the strings in here. So position, and two is length, and three is right byte, for char code add, and the on, and so on, char code add. I won't do everything here. I think it's just boring if I do this. You can do this at home. Doing it this way will basically replace all of the functions down here as well with these. So you can finally read what this code is actually doing. And you will see that this is not only up to skated, but also packed. And basically, it reads some bytes and then uses load bytes to dynamically execute the flash file that's packed in there. So it's also packed. And unpacking this statically can be a pain. Well, you can do this, of course. But we will be using dynamic unpacking, manual unpacking today. And that means, let's name it correctly. Oh, OK, well, what means we will just open the file in Internet Explorer, allow it to run. Yes. And now our file is running in here. And open up a hex editor that is able to read the memory. For instance, HXD. This has the OpenRAM button. And now you can choose one of those iExpro.exe processes. So you can read them. OK. That's memory that shows here. And you want to look for a search for the beginning of the magic bytes of a flash file. And that's, in this case, this. And then you check that, well, you might not be able to do that now if you are not familiar with flash files. But basically, you look for this string. And you should do it, OK, sensitive. Check the case sensitive button. And then check out if this looks like a flash header to you, that if this makes any sense. So usually, you will have some strings here. And the range of the values in here should make sense. So check out the specification of flash files. Look at some flash files if you are not familiar with them, so you get a feeling for them. And if you have no idea, just try to unpag every flash or FWS you find. And then you will see if it works or not. So all right. The fourth, well, here's the start of it. And at the fourth byte, you have the size of the flash file. Now you can be lazy. And you can dump this file merrily by using a size, copying a size that's probably bigger than your actual flash file. That will work. But if you want to do it the proper way, you can read the size here. And that's a little endian format. So you need to calculate the actual size. Little endian means you reverse the order of these. So it's 0, 7, and then it's a E2. So 7, do we have this scientific problem? Yeah, OK. It's COG, and it's 7E2. And that's the size, and that's more values. So let's select the block. It will correctly select the first part of it. And then we want the length. I'm not sure if this is hex. Yeah, it's hex here, it says so. So we can just say that's our length. And now we copy and paste this to another file. And that's our dump of this flash file. And you do the same for every other FWS you find in this area of the memory. OK, that's our first unpacked unpacked one. We let's just take a look at this with free flash decompiler. I can't tell you if that's already all file. So OK, this looks quite good. Yeah, maybe. But you see, we unpacked something that could be the packed file. And yeah, that's already a recommend that you do the same for every other file you find in here. Let's check this out. The next match is here. That also looks like it makes sense to dump this. And the next match is here. That doesn't look reasonable. I'm not sure. If you're not sure, just dump it as well. That doesn't look reasonable. But that does. I would also dump this. Not sure about this one. But these are probably no flash files here. This one. This one also makes sense, so OK. So that's all there is. It's really simple. Just opening the hex editor, looking for FWS, using the size to cut out that block, and then check it in the decompiler. And that way you will unpack every packed flash file in a flash file. That's it for today. I hope you enjoyed watching. If you have any questions, please post them below. And I hope to see you next week again. Have a nice evening.


The study aimed to investigate the existence of a neuronal pathway from hindbrain appendymocytes to cuspeptin neurons in the arcuate nucleus, arc, and antiroventral periventricular nucleus, AVPV. Wheat germaglutinin, WGA, a transynaptic tracer, was injected into heterozygous kiss1, tandem dimer tomato, TD tomato, rats to visualize cuspeptin neurons. WGA immunoreactivities were found in bimentin immunopositive appendymocytes of the fourth ventricle, IVV, and central canal, CC, as well as in some TD tomato-expressing cells in the arc and AVPV, DBH immunopositive cells in the A1, a 7-neurodenergic nuclei, and CRH immunopositive cells in the PVN. These results suggest that hindbrain appendymocytes have neuronal connections with cuspeptin neurons via hindbrain neurodenergic and CRH neurons to relay low energetic signals for regulation of reproduction. This article was offered by Chakayadura, Shorimeneb, Kana Akigami, and others. We are article.tv, links in the description below.