Keith Ghostland. I'm Ann Charles. Welcome to All Things LGBTQ. It's Tuesday, August 24th. We'd like to remind you that we're recording in Montpelier, Vermont, which is Unceded Indigenous Land. And now let's hear from Linda, who has some national headlines for us. Hi, everybody. So, I have one non-profit is attempting to help LGBTQ refugees fleeing Afghanistan. And Ann will say this is a national. Do you have this one? It's Rainbow Railroad? Yes, you have that one. Yeah. Well, then I'll let Ann talk about it. I know there are people in the United States that are part of this group, which is why I was talking about it. So, I will scratch it and let Ann talk about it. And I'll mention Canada. This is why we met early. You're supposed to read mine. So much for that idea. I know, because I was going to talk about Canada and Prupple Rainbow Railroad also. Well, I'll leave it up to you then. Okay. Okay.   Current and former students at Morton High in Illinois are demanding that the teacher be removed. We'll have more on that. Female couple were shot to death in Utah campsites. What about that? Fos tried to sex shame him. We'll learn who that him is and what happened. Farmers erect a huge pride flag after a school being LGBTQ and Black Lives Matter symbol. In West Hollywood, in the gay bar, the abbey has filed a lawsuit. We'll give you more about that. Out Representative Mark Tecano introduces a four day work week legislation. He really wants to make and he's campaigning hard for it. He's the sponsor of the bill and he's the first gay person of color in the legislature. Billie Jean King, the out trail blazer talks about the epiphany she had at 12. So we'll talk more about her epiphany later. And a sad story about James Hormel, the first out gay US ambassador has died. And Eminem's 19 year old child comes out as gender fluid and bisexual. Vandals replace pride flags with Confederate ones at Virginia Tech. Elliot Page, who we know and Mae Martin, which Ann and I have been watching a series with her in it called Feeling Good on Netflix. And they were seen together in a restaurant and they got matching tattoos. They've been friends for years. Who knows? Catholic officials are on edge after reports of priests on Grindr. As we talked about last couple of weeks ago about Jeffrey Burrill on General Secretary of the US Bishops resigned over being on Grindr. So this left wing, this right wing group is trying to find all the priests that are using Grindr and other social media. They want to expose them. And apparently they found a lot of people using Grindr inside the Vatican. So are you surprised? I have a Grindr story too. I'm not going there. The mayor of an Alabama city is openly considering directing LGBTQ friendly businesses to find other cities to do business as their city council failed to pass a non-discrimination ordinance. The mayor of Montgomery, Stephen Reed, pledged he would tell businesses that don't want to discriminate that this is the wrong city for them. The ordinance lost by one vote. And then we have the last story about the lesbian project is raising money to help support lesbian bars during the COVID-19 pandemic. So, Keith, what do you got? Because we all need a place to go. So, water theme, thinking of the 20th anniversary of Tropical Store and Irene in Henri that just happened. Water won't run straight and neither will we. Kind of pithy. Where did I find it? So I'm going to talk in this section a bit about the events that are coming up. And the first series of events are sponsored by Vermont Cares. And we had their outreach worker on a recent interview show talking about all of the programs and all of the expansion and community involvement that they're looking at doing. So on Tuesday, August 31st, statewide, but at their new office in Berry, this is going to be Overdose Awareness Day. And one of the things about Vermont Cares is they are one of the few needle exchange programs in the state of Vermont.  They're also going to be offering HIV testing. They do that around the state? They do it around the state. They have a van that they also go and set up locations. They'll be at the Pride Day Festival in Burlington in September doing HIV testing, et cetera. And Linda's favorite event on September 3rd, because it's first Friday, get out your bicycle, come to the Kellogg Hubbard at six o'clock for the queer critical mass bike ride. Not until I get my electric bike. I'm taking her next week. And on Sunday the 12th of September, before or after brunch. No, this is Sunday the 12th after, no, this is a couple of weeks from now. They're doing a queer causeway ride in Burlington, meet at 11 o'clock at Levy Park. So sponsored by Queer Connect. And they are trying to start an ongoing series of drag bingo. Now it used to happen in Burlington. They have stopped doing it while Queer Connect is picking it up. And Anita Cocktail and the troop from Merchants Hall in Rutland are going to be the hosts. You know, imagine calling out those numbers. Check their Facebook page for specific dates, locations, et cetera. But also on Saturday, September 11th at Merchants Hall, it's a hooten nanny. I love those. Anita Cocktail and friends will be doing their first drag show back at Merchants Hall. And you can go onto the Merchants Hall Facebook page to get all of the details. It starts at seven o'clock. There is an admission fee. They say 21 and older. And the reason for that is they allow alcohol on the premises. So it just makes things simpler. Keep in mind that out in the open in Brattleboro, it continues to do their radio hour. They're also sponsoring a weekly event of rural queer crafter news. Bring your favorite craft, socialize and teach someone how to knit. They're also doing an outreach to create an intersectional health justice project, looking at what are the inequities within our services, how do we approach it, how do we advocate, et cetera. Pride Center of Vermont, Monday, August 30th, this is going to be online. So you need to go to their website to register a singular they. And this is going to be Toby McNott's performance piece.  Now, this is for free, but they need to register so they can get know how many people are going to be watching. And there's going to be a question and question and answer afterward. Toby is also part of an exhibit at the Shelburne Museum called New England Now People. And part of their promotion is that the exhibit is intended to provoke and facilitate critical and timely discussions centered on the topics of identity, equity, and inclusion in a way that challenges visitors' assumptions and opens conversation that may at times be difficult. And Toby's was filmed performing and there are several different pieces and you can sit and watch. There was also the exhibit, the photo exhibit of the Rainbow Cattle Company, which was a drag show that was based in Brattleboro at Colors Bars for years. And it is fabulous sort of behind the scenes, preparing to go out and do drag and then some of the drag shows. And this exhibit is open at the Shelburne through October 17th, which is when the museum closes and is at the Pizzagalli Center for the Arts and Education. Also, on Thursday, September 2nd and Friday, September 3rd is a two-day event starting at 10 o'clock, which I know is after some people's bedtimes. At Einstein's Tap Room is the amateur drag competition and show. There will be prizes given and this will be hosted by Emoji Nightmare. And then on Sunday, September 5th, starting at 1230 South End of Church Street, is the Pride Parade. This year there are no grand marshals. There are, there is no theme. And as I was told today, the Vermont State Police Fair and Impartial Policing Program was told that they are not invited nor welcomed to march in the parade this year. Following the parade, there will be their usual festival in Battery Park. Who's speaking? Do we have any idea about who's, no? Okay. I mean, I did not get an indication of any speakers and I did not see a performer's list. Okay. And, but if there are no grand marshals, they're usually, those are usually the speakers. Okay, so they'll probably have others or none or whatever. But WCAX Channel 3, starting at 3 in the afternoon, will be telecasting and showing, you know, what they had filmed of the Pride Parade. And then that will be it for now because I, I have an event to add to the calendar. All right. A little bit in the future, September 23rd, because Art, a book launch party for our friend, John Kolecki, because Art is the name of his wonderful new volume. The subtitle is Commentary Critique and Conversation. It's going to be 7 o'clock Thursday, September 23rd at the Pride Center of Vermont. And this is an in-person event? I believe so. Okay. 28 people are going, including me. All right. Okay. Thank you. Time for me to do- Absolutely. Well, I knew you had a lot. I have quite a few. In the world category, majorities of 10 countries support trans non-discrimination protections. And I'm not going to share the list right now, but the moral of the story is the more trans people, one knows the less discrimination occurs, which is kind of a truism about, you know, LGBT, LGBT life also. Let's go to our continental divide, so to speak, in South America, I have two short stories. One involves Alexis Salvador, Brazil's first trans pastor, and she's blazing a trial for LGBT plus inclusion. I have a picture before you now. Like many of us, she started out in the Catholic Church, moved to the MCC Church, which is where I have parted ways with her. But she's making history in the world's deadliest countries for trans- one of the world's deadliest countries for trans people. She became disillusioned with Catholicism for fairly obvious reasons and moved to the MCC, as I said. Is the MCC part of the Catholic Church? No, no, no. It's a whole different denomination.  As I said, it claims the world's highest rate of homicides. At least 124 trans Brazilians were murdered in 2020, a 70% increase over 2019. It eclipsed the country with the second most trans murders, Mexico, by nearly 100 deaths. She is part of what some people say is progress in Brazil. In the country's local elections last November, 48 LGBTQ plus city council members were elected, including 25 trans people. I'm hoping this is part of a trend. There's legislation in the works to mandate 3% of jobs for trans people, but that legislation has been tabled. Now, I have another picture before you of Twinkle Kasun and Quincy Gulliver McEwen, who are founder and executive director of Guyana Trans United. They are pictured before you because the Guyana National Assembly has finally removed cross-dressing as an offense. The Caribbean criminal court decision was passed and now Guyana is finally complying after the activism of these two figures pictured before you. Now I only have one African story and I'm afraid it's sort of a repeat about what's going on in Ghana. They have this very draconian law in the works, but now the UN has taken a stand against it. They condemned Guyana saying that this draft legislation is part of a system of state-sponsored discrimination and violence. It creates a recipe for conflict and violence and one thing I haven't mentioned about this bill, it includes a bill that lessens punishment against LGBT people if they agree to go to conversion therapy, which everyone agrees is a form of torture, but so the UN has taken a stand against this bill and that's good news. Now I have a whole series of stories from Asia, a lot of them kind of discouraging. The World Cup has chosen Qatar to host it this year and Qatar has agreed to raise the rainbow flag. It's given people permission to raise the rainbow flag even though Qataris say life in the country is horrible and they're going to pull out all the stops for all the tourists. Apparently 90% of the people who live in Qatar are foreigners, but it's discriminatory policies towards the LGBTQ community are now coming to light because it's in the national Indian. I wonder if they're from that area? Middle East, yes. It's listed among many of the several Middle Eastern countries that criminalize sexual relations. Countries are urged to offer refuge to LGBTQ Afghans. LGBTQ plus Afghans have suffered routine discrimination, abuse and persecution, including by the state. Media reports that a Taliban judge last month said the group would execute gay people if it once again governed Afghanistan and now it has and this judge apparently said there are two penalties for being LGBTQ either stoning or being crushed by a wall. That's what I read that if they caught gay men they would crush them. And he outlined the dimensions of the wall and so forth. Kamali Powell is executive director of Rainbow Railroad, which is a Toronto-based organization that assists LGBTQ refugees around the world and Keith is probably going to want to chime in about this because they're based in Canada. Mr. Powell says although it remains to be seen how the Taliban will respond the signs are not encouraging. I was going to say that the Chinese name is that specifically for Newfoundland and Labrador they're working with the Rainbow Refugee Association of Nova Scotia to create Welcome Rainbow where they're going to be going doing outreach to provide training and orientation for new Canadians. So they're already putting things in place and also keep in mind Vermont has said to the federal government we are ready and we would like your refugees here. But nobody's talking except for Rainbow Railroad specifically about LGBTQ refugees and Biden hasn't mentioned them either. And the how to of you know what it is going to take to create an environment that is truly welcoming and what is the process for inclusion. And how to get them out of the country seems to be the most pressing. And you know there seems like they're leaving it up to people to get to the airport by themselves. I mean you know it's very dicey all of it. Okay. So let's move on to another story involving Russia which I'm counting as Asia in this segment. A picture book fighting back against Russia's LGBTQ propaganda law has appeared. It's a story for children about families with same sex parents. It's been published in Russia as part of a campaign to have the country's gay propaganda law repealed. Bedtime not playtime by Lawrence Chamele and illustrated by Elina Brasina is the title of one of the books. A month after a Hungarian bookshop was fined for selling the children's story about the day in the life of a child with same sex parents. The same picture book has been published in Russia. Unfortunately there's an 18 plus label on it in deference to the country's gay propaganda law. It's children's book right. Tells about a morning and an evening in the lives of two children with same sex parents. It's published as two titles in English. Early one morning about a young boy's morning with his two gay mothers and bedtime not playtime which follows a girl with two fathers at bedtime. The Russian translation combines the title of both books under the title mother's fathers and kids from dusk till dawn. Unconventionally the book has been published by Sphere which is a charitable foundation rather than a traditional publishing house for obvious reasons. So Sphere has published. It was released in Hungary last month and the bookstore that you know started to sell it was fine 200 600 pounds by a local authority for failing to clarify that it contains content that deviates from the norm. It's launched a campaign to have the propaganda law repealed in Russia. This book is the epitome of the law's absurdity. They said in a statement this does not protect anyone from anything rather it acts as an instrument of limiting access to information. It's printed 500 copies and sent them to LGBT organizations and queer influencers hopes to publish more in the future. So it's been published in 24 languages. So let's hope it gets some circulation. One more. Another Asian story concerns the Taiwan Macau gay couple who wed after a landmark legal win. And here's their picture. They're Ting Ziyan and his partner Luang Qinfei. Luang is from Macau. They fought this for years and finally this one time marriage was granted. So anybody else who wants to do it is going to have to go through the same legal proceeding. One time marriage. We'll do it this once but not for everybody. The couple have co-founded a group to help more than 100 Taiwanese whose partners are from countries who are same sex marriages not legal including China, Japan, Thailand and Vietnam because the law is that Taiwan which is very forward-looking as an Asian country in terms of LGBT concerns has mandated that if you can only marry someone from another country who were same sex marriages legalized. And why did they do that do you think? I mean what's the thought behind that? They probably don't want international repercussions from places like China and Japan and so forth. I have one more Asian headline concerning Israel and Israeli court has ruled that you can't sue your partner if they hide their sexual orientation from you. A woman filed a five million dollar shekel claim against her former husband citing emotional distress that she was suing him for one million five hundred fifty three dollars five hundred eighty I'm sorry one million five hundred fifty three thousand five hundred eighty one dollars and forty five cents. They married for a decade a couple divorced five years ago they have three daughters. She claimed that her husband with her introduced himself to the family as a heterosexual and religiously observant man but it was revealed that he was a homosexual. The family court initially dismissed the lawsuit but then it was appealed and the Jerusalem district court said that it was grounds for a lawsuit. The supreme court said no no no you can't sue your partner for hiding their feelings. So that's it for Asian news. I have more from Europe and a clip from Australia but I think we should move to Linda now.  So students both past and present are demanding she be removed.  Protesters also say that the school district's administrators are also at fault citing the board members who made transphobic comments on Facebook. Board member Bert Rickenburger recently made anti-trans comments on Facebook. Processors want him removed as well. They say the board is run by religious white guys. So could be sounds about right. Sadly a female couple were shot to death in Utah campsite and I thought I saw a little more of an article today that they had found their bodies in Utah but Crystal Turner and Kylings Schulte told a friend there was a weirdo camping near them and it was freaking them out. They lived in Moab, Utah. They were last seen at a tavern shady night and were planning to move to another campsite. The police are investigating and here's a photo of the two women who were murdered.   He survived bullying, homophobia and nasty political campaign to emerge as one of the nation's inspiring leader. He is beyond humbled he says as having been elected to the New Mexico state legislature and then farmers erect this huge pride flag after school bans LGBTQ and Black Lives Matter symbols an Oregon couple saying displaying support for queer and Black Lives Matter is not a political act after the school board in Newport Oregon banned the flags. Erin and J. Bill McCarthy who have a farm near the school built their own people donated money and for materials from around the state and helped erect this very large pride flag on a hill. So that was a good story and then this really weird story they didn't name the comedian in this article I don't know who they are but they're accusing the abbey bar in West Hollywood saying on social media and elsewhere that they were drugged by the bartender while they were there camera footage says she wasn't telling the truth there was no indication of the bartender doing anything or her being in proximity to the bartender I guess but so the abbey is suiting for defamation defirmation trade libel and breach of contract and they're suing for five million dollars so I wish I knew who the comedian was but they didn't say. Billie Jean King came out as a trailblazer talks about the epiphany she had a 12 12 years old that changed her life at a tennis lesson she knew she wanted to be the number one player in the world she went on to win 39 grand slam career grand slam titles and in the process changed sports for women 50 million women around the world watch her defeat Bobby Riggs in 1973. I remember that so well. In a battle of the sexist I remember being glued to the tv during that and I don't know how many you know how many people you know know about Billie Jean King but she did a wonderful work by starting women's tennis and demanding more money which you know brought women's sports up in the world but that Bobby Riggs thing was just amazing the battle of the sexist and there's also a movie out about her I can't remember the name but it's battle of the sexist it was a great movie and fun to watch. On a sad note James Hormel the first okay US ambassador has died he was 88 he was an activist and philanthropist and he saw a great pushback against his nomination as ambassador. Bill Clinton nominated him to Luxembourg in 1999 in a sneak session of congress after years he finally was appointed he funded the gay and lesbian center at the san francisco public library and also worked for the human rights campaign he will be very much missed and on my last note here the lesbian bar project is raising money to help support lesbian bars during COVID-19 they say without space we lose power of validity and community safety and intergenerational dialogue there are only 21 lesbian bars left in the 80s there were 200 you can see the list of bars that are accepting donations on their website and it's called the lesbian bar project and I have heard from sources that this is partly driven by Lea DeLaria right Lea DeLaria who as you know was in Orange is the New Black and she bought the Pied Piper in New Orleans I mean in Provincetown which you know I used to go to an awful lot many of us did yes and you couldn't go sorry but I think it's called the club now and it's going to have food drink and entertainment is that right Anne so there we go Keith what do you have for us so really quickly the Tokyo Summer Paralympics are about to start they are estimating 30 out LGBTQ plus athletes nine of those are from the U.S. most notably the women's basketball team we're expecting big things nine are from the there are nine out athletes from the UK three from Canada by comparison there were only 12 out athletes at the 2016 summer games in Rio Canada their senate has just voted bill C6 which would be legislation prohibiting conversion therapy related conduct and it creates offenses that a court could charge somebody if they caused a person to undergo conversion therapy without the person's consent does that include children caused a child to undergo conversion therapy you got ahead of yourself all right do anything for purpose of removing a child from Canada for the intention to undergo conversion therapy promote or advertise an offer to provide conversion therapy or receiving financial or other material benefit from the provision of conversion therapy now the court can also seize all the advertisement including computer systems or anything on the internet where I mean this would be the most comprehensive however there is a caveat that it doesn't penalize a consenting adult if no money or material benefit is received from going out and looking for or engaging in a conversation about I don't know what to do with these feelings about sexual orientation gender identity attraction and this is where I could go to my leader of faith and say I want counseling and the leader of faith would not be prosecuted as long as there's no money changes no money is changing hands and it's a consenting adult I would have to initiate it's not that the church would offer so psychiatrists or therapists wouldn't do it because they wouldn't get paid well and actually there are some of the providence provinces in Canada which says this is not a billable expense on your health care looking at HIV and AIDS really quickly Moderna has started their human trials for an HIV vaccine and from talking with people within the health care community the work that was done for the COVID vaccine truly benefited from the work that had already been started for HIV and the success of the COVID vaccine has accelerated the HIV vaccine process so they have already started with 56 HIV negative participants they are very encouraged by what they're finding related Tori Cooper was just appointed to the president's council on HIV what is of note Terry Cooper is a trans black woman and one of the statistics that I keep forgetting is black trans women 62% are living with HIV Tori or cherry Tori Tori Latina trans women 25% are living with HIV as opposed to 17% of white trans women Israel is lifting all of its restrictions on men who have sex with men doing blood tissue and organ donations you will be held to the same standard as everyone else and I will be talking more about this in an upcoming episode because I'm going to reach out to Vermont Cares to see what they're doing for advocacy because in the U.S. it is still you know you cannot have had sex with another man within three months and there are some come countries such as Ann and I were talking about that if you're such as Northern Ireland that if you're in a mutually monogamous relationship longer than three months you're a suitable donor main the or no pride ostrich has been stolen oh no the ostrich had toured the state at pride festivals it was part of a pride zoo they are saying well they're saying you return it no questions will be asked Massachusetts and we really need to give them some acknowledgement Harvard Law School has two new faculty they are two trans women of color they both identify as being Latina Anya Marina who will be teaching LGBTQ plus advocacy and Alejandro Caraballo who will be teaching cyber law now that's when I want to and finally outright Vermont they needed to raise eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars to be able to purchase the building in which they are housed they have raised eight hundred and eighty six thousand dollars so good going yes so I know you got a lot there I sure do let's start with Scotland which tells teachers to respect the gender identities of trans kids and what I found particularly interesting about this story is they're distancing themselves from from the UK which apparently has an increasingly transphobic profile um I know that's really gotten off the ground that yeah um this institutional transphobia uh the minister for women and equalities in the UK announced that the government's LGBT advisory panel would be dissolved and this is sort of a growing trend apparently it mirrors a rise in public transphobic statement uh sentiment in the UK which was reported earlier this year um Scotland's mandates include LGBTQ education which was the first mandate in the world um what they say is that uh trans children trans young people experience the most bullying in school so they're stepping in and trying to interrupt that in Scotland so I don't know why they don't leave England didn't they have a well that's not up to us to decide I suppose um let me show you a picture now of the thousands marching for LGBTQ rights in Romania a meta push for Hungary style propaganda ban now this article and I'm going to go with it says that uh even though it's in the air that a truck that a propaganda ban might occur in Romania there's so much activism against it uh it has 19 million people it decriminalized homosexuality and has revised its criminal code to ban discrimination on the basis of LGBTQ plus identity same sex unions remain illegal uh despite the 2019 referendum about it that was defeated the uh a majority of Romanians oppose marriage equality yet they're fighting and thousands have marched in this rally to demand equality uh as uh as this was Bucharest pride on saturday so um yes they're holding out turkey which i'm counting as europe um this isn't a story involving um grinder um well actually the grinder story is coming up but um apple has removed the dating gay application hornet from its app store in turkey um after a court order claimed that personal rights of the Ankara provisional gendarmerie command were violated uh it has more than three million users in turkey um it had turkey has previously blocked hornet's website and the decision an activist said we are seeing what's taking place in turkey a gradual erosion of free speech uh consistently queerphobic language um physical brutality in the streets this is what the hornet founder says it says it's on the process of taking up legal counsel in 2013 turkey blocked grinder the government without any court decision has also periodically blocked every website that contains the word gay in its link including networking and pornographic websites since 2014 trucka ankara has also forcibly banned the istanbul gay pride parade senior turkish officials have intensified their rhetoric against lgbtq citizens um calling them deviance and perverted um a law professor says that uh hornet didn't necessarily have to remove apple didn't necessarily have to remove hornet but um they chose to you could still get hornet if you're interested and you're turkish on google play's app which is used on android-based smartphones these sorts of court judgments are blunt and problematic previous ones have seen have been seen on youtube twitter and wikipedia that were blocked in turkey and i just heard today that turkey has built a wall with iran i think you know to keep afghans from entering because they have too many syrians now and you know like if you're a foreigner i think in turkey if you have a license it says that you're a foreigner on it you know so i have two more we're almost out of timing and so we need to this um let's take a look at the great british bake-off alum who got banned from griner grinder for impersonating himself oh i heard about that chucka verity there's his picture yeah he went on grinder they said no no you have to prove your identity and it's happened to other celebrities one more picture of these two paralympians started dating during covid now they're heading for tokyo their names are jude hammer and lauren rolls and they're both british um so may i just talk about this clip i have from this australian film all right but you better be quick all right ellie and abby and ellie's dead is a 2020 australian lgbtq romance comedy written and distributed by monica zennetti after the uh 2016 stage play it had his world premiere at the mardi gras film festival in 2020 um the synopsis 17 year old ellie comes out to her mother in a very blunt manner and her mother is stunned by her daughter's out and proud attitude ellie wants to ask her classmate abby to the formal but is reluctant and nervous about doing so on her journey of summoning the courage to ask abby out or the alternative being rejected she gets advice from her living aunt patty and it is also being advised by her deceased aunt tara an lgbtq rights activist who died in the 1980s and tara doesn't want to be called a ghost though but rather a fairy godmother let's look at the clip i'm putting it out into the universe that i did not just like a post from six months ago she's doing school captain nothing just going to class it's lunch yeah i'm asking a girl in my class to the formal i'm gay you're such a bigot that went really well how did you feel if a strange woman showed up in your bathroom claims for your dead aunt let's bring it in coming out is hard and i have been sent here to help you through it what about grandchildren oh come on shut up here is a list of conversation topics you're making this a big deal and it's no big deal what is on this note i can't i don't know it's ridiculous we used to talk about everything so your mum has never told you about how you die again this is all really new and exciting for you but it's not for me what did you say this story was like a car crash that you couldn't look away from you have done is make me feel different different is wonderful shut up you might not be at that age yet where you realize your parents are just human the tension huh into bad girls are you i'd like to pretend you have said that yeah me too i like you it feels really weird to say that out loud what you doing just checking where i learn i could be watching oh just my family what no no no now i i could watch that where well that's the problem it's premiering at film festivals now we're going around but it's not immediately available thank you for asking now yeah that's important maybe we'll be able to keep your eyes out for there'll be an update yeah so water won't run straight and neither will we kind of punchy june 1983 might have been vermont's first gay pride theme and i don't think we've changed a bit no i know i have it so with that well yes is that it in for you well i'd like to go back and i feel like i've given short shrift to the peril olympians well we have about two minutes all right well then look at their picture and root for them in the peril olympics on that note resist