Okay, with me today is Sunaina Dekhi. Sunaina is a yoga expert. She's a wellness expert. She is a yoga representative at the United Nations. She's also in a car right now because she is going to the airport because apparently she is in Delhi. Today we are talking to her because it's yoga day and to begin with Sunaina, how did you get associated with yoga? I got associated with yoga very late in my life actually. I was never the flexible with the strength yogi. I started in London and the first time I entered the yoga studio it was a love affair. I loved the whole energy. I loved the way my body moved. I loved the challenge it gave me. I just enjoyed it too much and that's when the journey began. And throughout the years since you've been practicing yoga, how really has yoga sort of helped you?  I think yoga, I can't even explain it because there are so many things in life that are intangible. You can't even understand them but I am just becoming better. I'm becoming more mindful. I'm becoming more aware. I'm becoming more intuitive. Like my body or my mind is so aware now with movement. I think when you get so aware of your physical body, the next shift is like really becoming aware of your mental space. And I think having a spinal condition living with a chronic spinal condition for seven years really made me so mindful about my body, about my emotions. If I did, if at times I felt anxiety, I was mindful of that. I was mindful that I might need to see somebody apart from me to help me with anxiety because I'm feeling pain when I felt emotions. I was able to just put my yoga mat on and really, really release it, whether it was sadness, whether it was anger, whether it was frustration, just to be able to breathe those few breaths and to open your heart or like to move into Surya Namaskar. It's really a very beautiful space to be in, to take care of your emotions. I think it takes care of you. You mentioned that you're living with a spinal health condition for the last seven years. Could you elaborate on that? What exactly is it and what happened? So I've got the, my whole spine is actually fractured. So I've got, I've got disc bulges throughout my neck and at the bottom, I've got spondylitisis. I've got spondylitisis. I've got every spondio that you can think of and I've got a hip fracture. So it's a lot of stuff. It started when I was five, my spinal, my L5 wasn't developed and any activity or movement, because it's not there, my L5, it didn't grow. I've become such an awesome teacher because I can understand pain. I can understand like when, when, like earlier, me as a teacher was, if somebody told me, hi, Sunaina ma'am, I want to join your classes, but you know, I have a spinal condition. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, come, you know, we'll handle it. And it was very intellectual and it was something that I had learned and that was what I was teaching them. But today, as a teacher, I feel them, I get them. I understand pain and because I understand pain, and I can understand what the other person is doing, going through, it makes me better, I think. When you have any condition, you know, everything I feel is given by God. Like today, after whatever I'm going through, whether it's on a physical plane, that has taught me how to become so mindful of how I walk, heal to engage my core, shoulder, back, chin, parallel, that requires a lot of discipline in the mind. If I look at it on an emotional level, how I've been getting anxiety or how I've not felt supported, to be able to try to help myself and try to get emotions under control. That has been my emotional practice through this pain in the last seven years. You know, on a spiritual practice, just to believe that everything is there for a reason. It is making you stronger. Yeah, I think what you basically encapsulate and saying is that yoga is a practice which sort of physically, mentally, spiritually, it sort of really brings you together and makes you strong. And I think that is really the message you're looking for during on a day like Yoga Day. But all the best for the future. Take it. Yeah, yeah. Thank you so much. Lots and lots of love, Kabir and everyone. Happy International Yoga Day. And I've loved this interview. Thank you, Kabir. Thank you. Thank you.


What's the feeling in that clubhouse right now knowing that you guys have jumped the blue jays for that second wildcard spot? It's great. I mean, we're all you know Very very happy to you know, I've done what we needed to do this series but You know, we also know that We still got a few or several really important games ahead of us. So we're we're ready You just described the intensity. I know Gary came in later in the game, but just as you're watching those those final innings unfold Yeah, I mean that was that was huge for for us You know him coming in and and shutting him down for two or three. What did he come in?  I mean, we're we're a great team. So You know, it's great to see that swing from So I think the catchers were a good team in general tonight You drove into with the double there in that fifth inning I believe just what was the key for you at the plate during that at that?  Yeah, absolutely You know every anytime the the catchers are producing on offense and defense. It's you know We we do take a lot of pride in that so We you know, we're just you know extra extra happy tonight


One of the most important concepts in calculus is the concept of continuity. The problem is continuity is a geometric concept. We know it when we see it. And so we know what a continuous graph looks like. And we know what a not-continuous graph looks like. But the problem is calculus is an algebraic concept. We have formulas. And so the question is how do I translate these geometric concepts into an algebraic framework? And so we'll run a little bit of analysis here. So I suppose my graph is continuous at some point where x is equal to a. Then I notice that there's two important things that happen. First of all, there's actually a point on the graph a f of a. Moreover, as we get close to x equal to a, our y values get close to f of a. And since y equals f of x, this means that the limit as x approaches a is f of a. On the other hand, if y equals g of x is not continuous at x equals a, we see one of several things. First, there might not be a point on the graph at x equals a. g of a might not exist. Next, there might not be a value for the limit as x approaches a of g of x. And even if there is a point, a g of a, and the limit exists, they might not agree. And this suggests the following definition for continuity. A function f is continuous at x equals a, if and only if f of a is equal to some value l. In other words, f of a itself exists. And the limit as x approaches a of f of x is equal to that value l. We can extend this and say the function is continuous over some interval between a and b, if and only if it is continuous for all x in that interval. For example, suppose f has the following function values. Let's find a value c that will make f of x continuous at x equals 2. So let's pull in our definition of continuity. And if we want the function to be continuous, we need the function value to be equal to the limit. So the first question we want to ask ourselves is, self, what's the limit as x approaches 2 of f of x? And the table suggests that the limit as x approaches 2 of f of x is equal to 9. So if our function value is equal to 9, then our limit as x approaches 2 and our function at 2 are the same. And so our function will be continuous at x equals 2. Now previously we had established a theorem about the limits of algebraic functions. And this theorem, combined with our definition of continuity, leads to an extremely important result. Let f of x be any function expressed in terms of powers, roots, and or quotients of our variable x. Then f of x is continuous everywhere it's defined. And that's because the limit as x approaches a of f of x will be f of a, according to our limit theorem, and because the limit is the function value, then the function will be continuous according to our definition of continuity. We can actually go a little bit farther with this. Algebraic functions are those that can be expressed using a finite number of powers, roots, and or quotients of the variable x.  On the other hand, transcendental functions cannot be expressed using finite numbers of powers, roots, and or quotients of our variable. And as a result, transcendental functions look like these horrifying expressions like 5 to the x, or log of 3x plus 5, or sine of 3x. And as you can probably guess from these examples, our primary transcendental functions are the exponential, logarithmic, and trigonometric functions. And rather conveniently, it turns out that what is true for algebraic functions also turns out to be true for transcendental functions. And so we have a theorem. Algebraic and transcendental functions are continuous everywhere they are defined.


entities and phenomena required in special containment procedures are assigned in object class for purposes of research priority, budgeting, and other considerations. The class assigned to an object is generally determined by a number of factors, but most importantly by a combination of its difficulty to contain, as well as the danger posed to Foundation personnel and humanity at large. A particular anomaly's classification is subject to update and modification as research and our understanding of the object entity or phenomena improves. Primary Classes These are the most common object classes assigned to anomalies and make up the bulk of the Foundation's database. Safe Safe class objects are those anomalies that are either sufficiently understood that they are now completely and reliably contained on a permanent basis or otherwise do not trigger their anomalous effects unless intentionally activated. Classifying an anomaly as safe however does not mean that handling or activating it does not pose a threat, and personnel to be reminded that all special containment procedures and safety protocols are to be observed at all times. Euclid Euclid class objects are anomalies that are either insufficiently understood or inherently unpredictable such that reliable containment is not always possible but do not pose sufficient threat to qualify for keter classification. The vast majority of anomalies cataloged and contained by the Foundation are initially classified as euclid until they are either sufficiently understood or exhibit sufficient danger to requalify reclassification. In particular, any anomaly that exhibits ectonymy, sentience, and or sapience is generally classified as euclid class entity at minimum due to the inherent unpredictability of an object that can act or think on its own. Keter Keter class objects are anomalies that pose a mimical threat to the safety of Foundation personnel, and the rest of mankind need to require extensive and complex procedures to contain or cannot be fully contained by the Foundation's current technology and knowledge. These anomalies are generally considered the most dangerous ones in Foundation's containment and all research efforts are directed towards enabling more reliable containment of such anomalies or as a last resort, the timely neutralization or destruction of anomalous effects. Secondary classes The following object classes are subclasses that supplement the object's primary or former classification. Neutralized Neutralized anomalies are those that are no longer anomalous either through having been intentionally or accidentally destroyed, disabled, or otherwise no longer function or exhibit anomalous effects. The documentation for neutralized anomalies is archived for posterity in case the anomaly regains its anomalous properties or otherwise recurs in the future. Explained Anomalies are those that are completely and fully understood to the point where their effects are now explainable while mainstreamed science have been debunked at the falls for mistaking classification or are so widespread and publicly disseminated such that containment is no longer possible. Esoteric classes The following object classes fall outside of the purview of standard classification. Domual Domual class objects are highly classified in extremely rare anomalies that are utilized by the foundation to contain or counteract the effects of other highly-adangered anomalies, especially keyer class objects. Even the mere existence of domual class objects is classified at the highest level to the foundation and their locations, functions, and current status are known to few foundation personnel outside of the whole five councils.


Digital marketing brings some unique challenges to a startup, specifically with a lack of resources, especially with time and money or budget. So with that in mind, I think that it is so important and the purpose of digital marketing for startups is to really lay the foundation upon which you're going to grow your marketing strategy and marketing plan. Specifically, I think it's important to take the time to understand how to really convey the value of your product or service to your target audience. And the reason this is so important is because when you get to the point where you need to start promoting yourself and investing in promotion if you haven't spent the time on building this foundation, you're potentially going to do it inefficiently and ineffectively, essentially losing your most valuable resource, time and money.


Good morning everybody. Today we're going to an appointment with my support worker. It's currently half past eleven. I need to leave. What's your name, Mr. Newton? Alright, okay. In January, on 17th of January, in March. It's so hard right now. I'm going to get Tesco and I'm going to have a hard night in the afternoon.


So I hope all of you are here for lightning talks Because we've canceled them and we're now having the all kirls all the time show. I'm just kidding Kirls has been organizing all the speakers including the lightning talks And keeping everything running and in fact all of the angels have been doing a fantastic job keeping the things running So I try and do lightning talks when I can I apologize again that Nick far as in here I think he's on the other side of the river But I'll take over because I love lightning talks and I love seeing people talk about all the crazy projects They're working on whether they're artistic or technical or social or just plain weird That's that's the fun of the lightning talks. So I guess the first talk Rabouf are you here? Yeah, okay fantastic. So our first talk is gonna be from Rabouf and is a shot 2017 game review. So come on up here and get set up And I'll keep chatting with them while you do that. So did everyone sleep well? Yeah, I'm surprised. It was pretty noisy at least by my tent and is everybody looking forward to the end of camp No, of course not. Yeah, exactly final day. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here, right? So all right first talk. All right. Thank you very much And so all of you got a really awesome batch and I made a little game for the batch So maybe a quick show of hands. Did anyone here play the game? Okay, so a couple of you that that's really great So I'll just show you what the game looks like and then tell you a little bit about the internals and what we saw happen during the event When you started the game you received the fragments and You were told to share this fragment with other other people on the field So you got a color and you could only share with people with the same color So if you share you were asked, do you want to receive or do you want to send? If you want to receive you were shown a receive code if you want to send you had to type in the receiver address Well after such an exchange you had more fragments and when you had 25 fragments you won the game And so congratulations and the price was that the leds would which would flash in your team color would then flash But also sparkle So how does it work internally? So first thing is how did you get assigned a color? Well, your color was based on your MAC address. So the last byte of your MAC address modulo 6 determined your color How did you get your first fragments? Well, the first fragment was just downloaded from the internet of the Wi-Fi and again based on your MAC address Next step of the game was how to share the fragments and the sharing was actually completely peer-to-peer So if you were the receiver Your batch would be a Wi-Fi access point If you were the sender the batch would connect to the Wi-Fi access point of the receiver and the fragments would be sent So every once in a while you would see a gamer then a caller and then the receive codes and in your Wi-Fi access points list So that was pretty cool because I mean, you know, it works Wi-Fi is not always stable. You could still play the game Final step of the game. How did winning work? This was actually pretty neat. So the fragments were actually Cryptographic fragments in a Shamir Shamir shared secret thing And so it was actually if you had 25 say fragments you could decode the original secrets and Then you could use the Wi-Fi to get your price bit with secrets. So that was fun So some statistics I put to go in game online on late at day zero and I think we saw the first normal win on day three and On day four when I prepared the slides We saw 700 people who actually downloaded and started the game and already something like a hundred wins So that was really pretty cool Now, of course, we are at the heck of camp. So there's not just the game There's also the meta game people will try to act the game. Well, of course they did and I tried to make it a little bit harder for them by Obfuscating the code fit by minifier. Nothing too fancy, but Oh and well the game opened on day zero I saw the first people like trying some stuff on day one and the first successful reverse engineering was on day two so well done So most people attacked the game by just seeing how the fragments were the initial fragments were downloaded Actually, I thought of that My original plan was to have a Wi-Fi physical thing which would give you the initial fragment based on your MAC address That didn't happen due to heart failure and I'm really glad it didn't happen Because this made the game much more playable for the normal players. So that's been a good accident So what kind of responses did I get from the players? Things like oh my god, I'm yellow and everyone I see is blue Or everyone is yellow Or everyone is red. So actually like it was pretty evenly distributed, but low sample sizes will get you in the butt Other than that it's been really cool to see people like finding other people and cheering if they're in the same color And I actually spoke to a number of people said, okay, we wouldn't have met if it weren't for the game So that's really really fun all in all people seem to have been having a really good time So that's what we were going for So I have a couple of people to thank First of all the batch team The batch has been a huge volunteer effort. It's been amazing to see like the the hardware the software but also like the rallies getting the 3,600 packages ready for all the visitors that's been amazing I'd like to thank all the players all the angels which make the event possible And of course all of you guys So I think I have some time So what would be fun is let's purpose the code so you can get the Code from my Github page that's remove slash shout to that as the sifting game After I made it to our shit. I'll do it after talk. Sorry I'll make it public have fun play with it Make another game for your next hacker event. It's been a really good experience. Thank you for that very much. Thanks again to There we go. All right. Thanks again to review and next up. We've got beta 4 some more gaming I believe this talk is about hacking the light infrastructure that everyone see the Shah 2017 light installation and then a changed color to the Italian flag I believe So This will be a presentation about that adventure So Hey, everyone, I'm beta 4 and this talk is about how a group of hackers from the Italian embassy Hacked the life the light infrastructure here at the camp. So first things first Credits because this is a collaborative effort from a group of hackers. So thanks everyone and So how we do started basically the Italian embassy is a village here at the campus is the tent and in front of us they put a nice sign saying in the shot 2017 with RGB LEDs all around the letters and it basically started as a joke One of us said a really be cool if we could hack the sign to show the colors of the Italian flag and It is actually dangerous to give good ideas to hackers because we start a grouping together and actually doing it So, how did we do it? We had a look at the sign behind there was a box with an Arduino light controller and an internet cable running all the way through a dating flow and The cable fortunately for us run very close to the Italian embassy. So we started Thinking about doing many to be the latac. We brought the cable inside the embassy connected the switch and We start as niffing packets, of course After Basically the protocol is DMX which makes sense it's made for stage lights and everything and every 20 milliseconds the UDP packets were sent to many IP addresses because each letter has its own IP address Okay, but as you see we hid in this slide the the full IP address Because we thought well for sure it is a separate network from the one where every one of you are connected And it is a separate network for sure. They're used VLAN and the routing rules to prevent anyone here at the camp to connecting And nope, okay you from your computer could ping the light infrastructure and could set packets to them And of course DMX is unauthenticated and it's UDP So and it doesn't even care about the source IP address So you could just spam it with more packets than the original controller and you could take control of it so we took the One of the packets from the TCP dump edited with an hex editor to change the color loaded it in memory in a C++ program and just flooded it Faster than the original controller. The original controller 20 millisecond as every 10 milliseconds This is the result before with the original animation and this is the result after with the colors of the Italian flag So The interesting thing The interesting thing is that that night one of us showed up at the Italian embassy saying hey I'm the original designer of the sign Could you please give us back control because we have some night animations for the night and We gave them back control of course, but we started thinking hey We know the network number so we should try to look for other science. We made a nice application with You could just put an IP address and hit the phone button to flood the MX packet to them and We scan at the network of course for port the 6454 which is the one of the MX We found a lot of things the third number in the P address is the data and clone number The fourth number is the individual device some of the data and glow have the 21 22 23 So they are the special light installation, but all of the data and glow had 20 What is 20 we targeted the attack is about 20 and it is the flame at the top of the dating Claw and it is a perfect way to spread the Italian flag all over the All over the embassy sorry all over the camp basically So we put all of the IP addresses that we could find not all of them And most of them and the next night all of the lights up top of the dating glow We're blinking with an Italian flag If you want to try this at home Be careful with two things we found that the damped packets had a maximum brightness of 7f the maximum is ff We don't know why still but we suspect some power limitation So not to let the smoke out of the installation please keep the brightness low if you try it and The second thing is that all of the network due to the Arduino controller limitation run on a 10 megabit per second Switch so also keep the traffic low please and thank you everyone at chat 2017 for providing The as with the best and intended CTF over my life. Thanks Fantastic All right So next up we've got Jan coming to speak to us about blockchains And about hacking blockchains in the meantime a little bit of housekeeping So I heard that the merchandise Can't be shipped to you if you pre-ordered it But you can go and still pick it up from the shops So if you've pre-ordered something go and pick it up from the shops Yesterday they were saying they were running out of items, but you can still ship them to Benelux and Germany if you want to purchase things Also No, okay, so Yeah, was there any other housekeeping I can't remember what was the sale so there's a sale. What was the price? Is it 20% off? Is it 30% off? Okay, they're selling merchandise in a shop news at 11, right?  Here's the real pretty face So go ahead and tell us about hacking blockchains Welcome this talk was original a 99 second talk, so I thought let's expand it to a lightning talk and Well, it's basically we have a nice camp here at the hacker festival and we hear something about blockchains But I'm like I'm not really seeing the hacking things in blockchains and well since It's important technology with a big impact. I think we should so the biggest known block chain is of course Bitcoin and Well after take away comms Exciters fear Bitcoin we now have tricks paying for Access that came out in 2014 Um Well that Bitcoin is the biggest implementation of a blockchain that if you go way Further you get to Ethereum, which is actually a program which is to deploy this kind of thing So I guess or description how blockchain work You have all kinds of sections get into To be stored in the database every 10 minutes for Bitcoin It gets stored in the Blockchain and Also, the address of the hash of the Previous block is put into the block and so if you put all the blocks together you have big database So here we are at the camp and we see all these really important topics come on like the big companies Facebook Apple Google Amazon and Microsoft are owning our stuff Governments attack our rights hacker computers and they have clue what they're doing and Well, the best of IOT fails electronic locks fails and they're There's only all our people computers So add to that the blockchains which allow for global distributed uncensable Unchangeable irreversible real-time database just thinks of all the great things you can do with it and project that on the previous topics We had How did I get into it? Well, let's start in 2013. I thought Bitcoin. Hey, it reached 20 years shouldn't that be that this can't work I've start to figure out. Okay This can't work.  It does and then you go to deeper down the rabbit hole Like all the other companies now do so we used to have many frames which did everything for aeroplanes and air traffic and Power infrastructure Now we do everything on the cloud everything to Amazon because they're the biggest and cheapest and Jeff Bezos doesn't want to make any profit so we invest everything and But he also doesn't want to attain all those computers. So we go to Everything on the blockchain and we don't know where everything is So how did we get here? This is a Possible scenario we started with Bitcoin in 2009 Then in 2015 Ethereum got developed and people Yeah, you get some smart contracts on a global mini computer like a sort of Python interpreter on the global mini computer where everybody agrees on and now kids are going crazy your developers quit at to retire and then one year later they come back to rip apart your marketplace and Take you over But one of the limitations is that big data box changes really difficult at this moment But the kids and the hackers are really busy getting that's going So all the you pick jump in and after that the financials the big stacks also go for it Government won't be able what to do and in 2020 we're like, okay crap. What happened? Where are my rights? Why is everything on the blockchain and get added and then after that the horrible things happens Because if you make really complex smart stuff something So we should start hacking blockchains and start a new blockchain and We can start of course with the blinking LED on the blockchain and also started discussions think really need as an Initiative we need our own blockchain, but we also need to start With the other blockchains and the people that are using them Excellent No, my it is working. Okay, good. Hmm. So Anybody here been here all three days for lightning talks Any serial offenders? Yeah, but you work here Yes, one of our speakers from the first day has made it all three days So then so then you will remember that we have a lightning talk legend here lightning talk department Genesis dot re here to speak But I have my own microphone Exactly, there's free about Command and control so I believe the previous speaker was talking about the rabbit hole of blockchain and all the places that it could go You see how we've Spared no expense and he is indeed wearing a white rabbit t-shirt just to symbolize exactly what you were talking about So I'm almost there. I just need to hack my own website because this little video Obstructs the better view and I didn't have a chance to make my own slides because everything is Improvised everything is work in progress. Okay, and I love energy coming from this place so much next year I'm opening my own stage so that I could talk forever Okay, so basically I gave this talk you two years ago at the chaos communication camp and Today when they gave me this microphone, I just cannot help each other I just I just I just must do it. I started doing yoga because I had some back issues sitting on the computer Very, you know, not optimal posture So I just want to show you like one or two very super basic Exercises and whenever you go to a yoga class. This is like a warm-up exercise. So there is like a no No, nothing serious.    So I just do this again We look up We we bend Look up Walk or here we have some here. We have some variations Look up boom boom boom And This is basically a very simple exercise that you can do in any place at the airport on a grass You do not need to have a yoga mat or anything. It just works another exercise that I enjoy is like Touching touching the ground and Hands up and then the other side. I just feel like all my Arms and legs are are stretching and it is just I just feeling my body. Yes, my body feels good. My body feels amazing Another very simple exercise because all of this is super simple. It doesn't require any special fitness or anything is for for instance You just I Do not know what is the what is the official name But also I can feel all my muscles working My arms stretching. It is just And you can go on and on and on and then at some point you just know Oh, I have us I feel something in this part of my body and then you just do a special exercise that is meant to relieve your pain in that section and This can go on and on forever. I try to do something crazy I'm not sure if it will work. Don't do this at home. Never do this on the stage Okay, one more It is the last day. I've been tired. I didn't get much sleep You know it takes some time it takes some practice But the journey the journey never ends life is about the journey. Enjoy the process.  Yeah, you know the difference between a lightning talk coordinator and a pizza is I don't have slides a pizza can feed a family of four Did your microphone working?  I also think so. So thank you very much Probably most of you already heard about Blockchains Bitcoin, Ethereum and all the ICOs going on Most of that ICOs for those who don't know initial coin offering are scam bullshit Ponzi schemes Most of them like probably 95% So I got an idea.   There are many useless talking that make fun of the Currently useless and scammy ICOs.  So we want to mark them with this coin as pure bullshit So people want to invest in them and would pay more attention before they invest in some ICOs So the website is currently It was published for the shot 2012. So it's really ugly and Quickly done. It's hosted on github. So feel free to do pull requests to make it better We have a brown paper that's described slightly how the thing works and we also for like increased security We issued a special free sheet Toilet paper wallet. So it's very secure. Please participate to the project. Thank you very much Wow fantastic It did smell a bit like cow patties for a moment there while that was my honest Don't know if that's just wafting in But our next speaker is going to talk to us about next generation internet Michael linear yeah, Michiel Lenas okay, so You know that moment when you when you go to a wedding and they say Speak up now or forever hold your breath. So I work for a charity called an illness foundation We were way back in the 80s We were part of the the beginning of the internet in Europe. It was a time when Unix bearded guys Actually, we're all young people and they set up this this network just for each other and then that grew into the European Internet And we've been giving money to people that do this kind of thing Even to this conference itself, but to people that fix the internet. So we were charity we give money to people and last year something came in our path because we found out that the European Commission was They were starting a new research and development program and and these things are big I mean think hundreds of millions of euros potentially billion of euros and They were sort of putting the challenge in front of the community saying, okay. Is anybody there out there to tell us What we should be funding and we looked back and we thought the last 20 years what you've been funding is crap The internet is still very much fossilized ossified in the in the in the first generation There we we're still using IPv4 everywhere. We're still using DNS With without security where we we don't we have not upgraded our technology stack They were looked at how they how they were faring and they were always getting these big consortia in with with telephone companies and then For some reason or another we were able to actually Get into the process and we're now writing the the plans for the European Commission their official vision for the next generation internet and We we are not doing this by ourselves we we hooked up with a number of Communities like the FSF e edry, but also the technical community to people that run the internet that like the ripe the people that run the domain names But obviously these organizations do not have a complete overview And so that's what I said the moment where you could speak up about what is wrong with the internet or what? What your wishes are what is wrong if you yell it to us now? We will produce it at verbatim to the European Commission.  We have this website up Called and and it's actually apt to be next to this thing because we're talking about alternate realities So I'm in front of the thing. This is not the internet Google is not the internet We can actually make the better internet tomorrow if all of us work together and So I'm asking you and asking the help of this community if you talk to people if you know Anybody that is always bitching about how the internet should be proved in one way or another Tell us because now we have the opportunity. We have sort of we've hacked the process to to to to to make the Commission Understand that it's public money that should go to a public resource that the internet is a commons And we really really really need your brain power to find the well just like the we don't we want this Italian flag on top of the internet right we want it back we want to own the thing and We want to strain every muscle that we have in our bodies to make now finally grab this what I mean I've been Working in this this fear for a long long time from almost my entire life. This is the best opportunity I've seen to get actual real large public money go to the things that we care about So I hope that you go to our website. It's called nl net dot nl. It's easy. You're in the Netherlands now There's only one network in the 80s. So it was called nl net From there on you click on the top right link Uh, and it's all about next generation internet or you you look for that And any input that you will give us we we promise to treat very carefully and look at it And if you uh, I'm here so you can just grab a card And please talk to us And send send us any idea that you have okay, that's it fantastic Thank you. So we don't have a full set We have two hours today for lightning talks Do a lightning talk It's all right. I can work with half a microphone So anyone anyone anyone if you don't speak I'm going to have to put genesis re up here again To do more yoga and keep things going It's going to keep going Come on anyone do the public We already picked on you yesterday. So you know not to raise your hands this time, right? I know one of the angels was in the workshop Opportunity public speaking. We only have two more talks. We have two hours to fill Oh god, it's endless All right worth the try Matias is here to speak to us about privacy scores, which I think is pretty cool So I'm going to let him do that Um and feel free to take an extra minute since we have You know two hours Great. Yeah, I will talk about privacy score a public scanning platform to assess privacy issues of websites our motivation When I'm visiting a website that Informs about social support. I want to know who knows that also So there are tools like privacy badger that show me trackers, but there are also other Scanning services You might know some of them most of them are focused on single side scans. For example, there is SSL labs SSL labs creates an overall rating and Shows you if your SSL config is bad or or not that bad Then there's also security headers. I owe they show you if you have a nice HTTP headers or not Other other websites to mention are the mozilla observatory or Web call web call shows you lots of cookies third party request and so on and so forth But the existing scanning services are only useful For mince that do ad hoc scanning and they use a predefined Evaluation methodology. We want to change that So we created privacy score The goals are We want to create incentives for providers to improve their security and their privacy By publishing our results as a ranked benchmark The user can influence his or her ranking the source code is open source and all results are published as open data A nice thing is that user can Define their own site properties that makes it easy to To understand the list that I created I will show you that in one slide Question I could answer then are something like do bavarian cities perform better than schools in hamburg Or is the size of a hospital correlated with its rank on privacy score? So I will show you a few screenshots first. This is a list named European data. I forgot the last thing And there are 36 websites in this list zero of them past all the checks we have so far 19 Failed at least one or more checks And 11 failed at least one critical check When you scan a bunch of websites such a ranking Created you have on the left the list of URLs then you can have one or More user defined columns and on the right side you have Certain categories like tracking encrypted web attacks encrypted mail and in the end the overall rating um If you click on a domain you can see The results in detail here for example the no tracking results Most checks are working some are not working yet or unreliable Yeah, check out our source code. You can contact us via twitter by mail try it out Since I have a minute left I will show you the website self Here it comes So you can upload a new List you can of course Scan the single site if you want to And it's pretty easy to create the own list. It's just a csv file comma separated and yeah, try it out That's it fantastic All right, and even on time i'm not used to all the lightning talk speakers Running absolutely on time You thought I was kidding, but we really do need speakers So if you are streaming this if you are out there in the ether Please come to the uh to the re tent Otherwise it's going to become the genesis re tent for the next hour Because we were in the bar last night and he was showing me all the projects that he's got and he's got plenty of projects I'm just kidding. He's going to give us another five or six minutes And then we do have two other new speakers who bravely stood up to come and join us so um Let's have more of that Okay, I Wasn't you're not on the screen kidding that I have uh many projects At some point I did a meta project 50 projects in 50 days Because I know that ideas creativity are infinite But then it is back to implementation execution processes and actually getting sheet done I am good at getting sheet started And uh, I would like to just show you high level overview of some of the stuff this this project is called renaissance Rns s and c and these are various various projects Uh like one project per day me doing very quick presentation. Here is the problem. Here is the solution Here is the existing example here is how it makes money and first it starts from cannabis Which is the fastest growing industry in the u.s. And hemp which is a non psychoactive variation and on the first day I gave the talk about illegal history of hemp and cannabis and second And then I realized after all these 20 projects Initially, I set up to 250 but in the process I've realized that I need to first work on the workspace so I could realize all these projects And that's how working on the astral ship started astral ship Is a building in the north wales in the in the uk We have this building and we converted into a visionary space to realize human potential and heal the planet We have enough Taxi or food delivery apps. We need to work on actual problems that matter and here at the shah So much work is invested into infrastructure toilets water. It is completely Unsustainable honestly so much work. So that is why we invest in the buildings. We already have and this is our second building This building is a ruin. You see the collapsed roof Uh, this building requires a lot of investment from a local council government european union Some lottery fund But hey, we have two buildings. We are all hackers. We are organizing an event 22 23 24th of september. I'll show you the link to the event and please You are invited. It is not fun to build a community and no one arrives We actually Anticipate you to come and some people will arrive early. Some people will Stay for an extended period of times so This is it two buildings and the invitation is right there astral ship slash Equinox Boom boom boom Okay, so this is it 20 22 23 24 of september. You are invited to to arrive early And and and and stay longer if required because we anticipate that some people will decide, huh? It makes sense. It is cool. I want to stay. So we are more than Welcome to stay for long. We are based in wales Flying to london is okay, but it's better when you fly to Liverpool or Manchester. It's just much much closer And this is something my my friend is doing and and and and we are like piggy piggy backing on on his idea First to global solutions day. We have all the solutions to all the all the human problems It is just the uneven distribution. There are some I would say There are some like a prawns the shrimps like these little Things that live in there in the water and they are caught in in netherlands They are shipped to marocco when they are appealed and then shipped back to Holland and then there are subsidies to pay For export taxes and import taxes. It's ridiculous or salmon caught in norway And then it is shipped to to china and then back to It doesn't make any sense at all, but we have two buildings. We organize the event You are more than welcome to join us. And by the way, I know this is not very popular Do I have time cool? I have a strange relationship with google Because google in my opinion is the most powerful company on the planet They are actually more powerful than any government For instance, they have access to all the knowledge all the books They have access to our emails search history and of course there are some privacy advocates that are not using google But on a larger scale google has all the information all the thoughts And they are investing in the browser operating system phones laptop telecom infrastructure fiber loon So this is only technology, but now they are also expanding into Machine learning artificial intelligence self-driving cars robots. They purchase all all the robotics company They purchase all deep learning company. They have also The biggest private investors in the space x via google ventures So all the knowledge all the information all the deep learning all the robots space technology and recently also a nuclear fusion So google quite literally owns the planet. They are Obiquitous I treat google as oxygen and I know that my my my security systems when I'm in this room You are much better at hacking than me and when I am defending my systems I need to be lucky all the time you as an attacker. You have to be lucky only once I am Relying on google when doing my infrastructure because google owns the planet google is already more more powerful than any government And I'm not sure if you know it. You may have heard of the rotschild family They are there's the famous family of bankers rotschild family It will give you some wikipedia links. They have many many multiple generations. They were fan of financing both sides of the war How do you make money? You just sell arms to both sides and then whoever wins you you have money So so this is one Very famous family and the second very famous thing is bilderberg group And believe me or not the eric schmidt The CEO of google is actually one of the chairmans of this organization. So Google owns the planet. I signed peace treaty with google because They own it. They own it. However, if you have better ideas, we can work on the alternative I'm inviting you to our place The equinox gathering we have two buildings. We need more hackers We need more people and you are invited to stay as long as you like just take your laptop take a sleeping bag Take pack yourself in a way that you don't want to go home. Just get yourself ready. We are starting something Don't forget your laptop So there you go, you have it Anyone been to snodonia? Really? Okay, good. It's beautiful, right Worth a visit. Okay. So, uh, I do want to remind people there's still space for speakers whether you're online streaming or whether you're here in the room Um, the traditionally over represented gender has been traditionally over represented in these particular lightning talks So I would like to invite all genders to come and give lightning talks If anyone is still interested come and see the angels at the front of the room Run down here from your tents and give us a talk Benjamin was here yesterday and I believe was part of the free software choir, which was quite a finale. Did anybody catch that? The one person who is here all three days, right? Okay, we all caught it, right? You actually work for us, don't you? No, no, you really just volunteered to see all three days of lightning talks. You deserve a round of applause All right, benjamin Take it away Ignore Yes, so yesterday I was we were singing with the choir and I thought I'll talk a bit about it. So, um, it all started with that at the last C3 congress, I noticed that at the tent at the table of the free software foundation europe Twice a day people would meet to sing and not everybody liked it because it was amateur singers and they also had a flute but I thought You know you to make something great you need motivation and you need skill. They already have motivation. So maybe I could so and so I took the song and made a choral arrangement and I just wanted to make a comment about it I put the melody in the tenor part because I expected more men than women on a tech conference um And we did perform it yesterday and for me it was great. It was the first time that I conducted something But I want to do it again. And so now basically what I'm Trying here is to find people to work with so if there are people who want to make music that glorifies Open source software, please talk to me So we can make something cool on the next congress I would be I I think I like the idea with the choir and I would like to optimize for Having a great experience while singing in the choir. So this song that we had was very fast And so people did not really have time to listen And it's it's quite some magic that evolves when you you learn that line that you have to sing and then you sing with someone together And suddenly it it sounds and I would like to find I would like to make music That is more optimized on that so it should have more harmony and more dynamics Yes, so I'm basically looking for collaborators people who have text Because I cannot write text. I can write music And other musicians and so maybe we'll have a choir again at another event. That would be cool. Thanks Thank you All right, so right now we're on to our last talk.  We've got two more talks. Fantastic. Actually, we're starting to recycle speakers So rabuf is up here to speak to us about something new Compared to half an hour ago So you've evolved a lot in that time you've written a lot of code. It's all up on github. Uh, I understand. Is that true? Yes. All right. What are you going to speak to us about? Um, I'd like to do a quick picks for the Quick pitch for the reproducible builds project. So I'm not affiliated but I'm a fan Um, so the reason I want to do the pitch is um, who of you ship software? That's a good number of you So it could be a library or a program and when you ship software, it would be really bad if you shipped a backdoor to your users, right But if anything, uh, if you should learn anything from going to a hacker camp is that you don't know if you've been hacked Um, so how can you know that when you publish your software? You haven't been hacked and you're not publishing a backdoor to your users So that's a really hard problem because you can like say, okay, I use a contains integration server But hey, maybe the contains integration server sect. So that's a hard problem And the reproducible builds project is aimed to well, maybe not fix the problem, but uh contribute to the fix And the idea is really simple Uh, uh project that has a reproducible builds if you take the same version of the code It always produces the same binary like bite per bite The same binary and then you can just build it on several machines The chance that all of them are hacked is small and you have more confidence that there's no backdoor going to your users Um, so typically, um builds are not reproducible because there's timestamps in there and lists that are ordered in random fashion But it's a really worthwhile cause the debian project has done a lot of work creating tools to make it much easier So look into it. It's really recommended. Thanks Thanks So it's raining out and it looks like we might have some lightning a little bit So the lightning talks are actually going to be lightning talks Hopefully that will drive more people into the room and onto the stage Give a lightning talk all at the same time Uh, so again recycling another speaker Uh, he's going to speak to us about a hardware project. I believe this time once he gets everything set up Um, is everyone packed up their tents? Now would be a good time to do it Maybe not. Maybe not. I packed mine up earlier. I put it inside another tent because I like recursion Um, I think they took that tent down. So my tent is now inside a tent that's been packed away inside another tent that's been packed away Um, hey, do you use nixos? Hmm. Is this nixos Your operating system. No, it's debian. Okay, met kd recognize the background and I thought maybe you were a nixos user Okay, I hope this. Ah, okay. All right. Here we go. Um, last lightning talk unless somebody comes up here and volunteers This is a talk I did a couple of years ago based on hardware outsourcing because in the previous life There was a hardware engineer and it was the only time it went actually right in a complete co-creation fashion This used to take one and a half hours. So, um, here we go It's about that box. This is about me. Well, everybody knows how outsourcing projects go And bowing also has learned that the hard way Um, this is probably we worked on which was an x-ray machine for phillips and when we were almost done I was like, okay, it went so well. I went to my manager Can I publish everything I learned here and said well, we can release everything anyway in a couple of months. So be my guest. So That's great. This is the basic layout You have your stuff for your patient control and lots of 19 inch cabinets in the back logical view and this was the old crappy situation which was obsolete and we went to this And phillips didn't have any mechanical engineers. So we needed to outsource Cable overview and this is how it looked like This is nicely done in inkscape and this is how you mount it below a table in your lab and well main point of this talk is if you start outsourcing White box or black box outsourcing.  Everybody should specify in what they're capable of and Everybody can use the tools they want to use and you communicate using open standards like pdf or whatever Requirement engineering, what kind of level? Yeah, not important. Okay. Don't invent the wheel buy stuff harass everyone that you need stuff I Make a good specification peer review it always peer review it make a prototype to see if your specification is correct And then you will start really outsourcing sourcing because what your customers is here Is what your supplier did here? And make sure that your supplier also knows what he's making and for who is it making and this is the only interface You have to your supplier. So get that right and get the trust with your supplier Well, then the mechanical engineer at the supplier start engineering So you give them all your stuff including the requirement specification. He sends back an axi with a 3d model You hack and slash and annotate it. You send it back in 24 hours later You got your next iteration and six weeks later.  It's all it is So and then you solve all your change requests Problem reports your archive the whole design because it needs to be in the field 12 years or 20 years And you deploy it at your beta site Tools well, I used the gimp for making a simple pcb thing and specifications also give a good link to Some emcee requirements, but for your netlist use a real schematic program And you get your gerber bags for mechanical. I used inkscape It was a real one-on-one printed sheet So I could easily hang it under the table before we got the real hardware And it actually went quite well cables this I don't see anywhere People always try to make harnesses And they use the most difficult specification take a lot of work It's just use open office curate a table with five columns Specify connect on one side connect the other side what is in the middle? What needs to be a twisted pair and you get your nice cable drawings back out again And when it's not worth the trouble you don't outsource it you do it yourself So, um Yeah outsourcing it takes you yourself one Third to a quarter of the effort that it takes the outsources So for one people you for three people you have running around at the outsource party. You have one people running in-house That's it Thank you very much. I never thought I'd enjoy a talk about outsourcing, but I did actually learned a few things. That was pretty cool Um, can you imagine if all lightning talks were done by management? Wouldn't that be great management strategies? I think that would be for conference No, okay, never make that joke ever again


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What's up guys take down here with another comic book video for you today. There is no real theme behind it I have DC and Marvel a bunch of different superheroes. It's not just one and Me showing everything I have of that collection. So start things off. I have issue one of tails of GI Joe Amazing cover added that to my collection a while ago. We have probably the least Popular superhero of all we have this is a four-part series. I have all four issue number one of Aquaman It's not bad that cover not bad design issue number two Little bit better all bagged and boarded all my comic books are bagged and boarded That's Keeps the value where they are. This is issue number three of the four-part series And the final issue number four That series So even though it's not the most popular it's not something I went out and I'm going to Specifically look for and try to collect. It's just something that was in the collection I bought and a four-part series So I kept it moving on I have Wolverine and the Punisher. This is book one of three. This is like a 90s A 90s comic book you can tell from the artwork right there Nonetheless, I thought it was pretty cool. It was unique and unique enough that I wanted to keep it in my collection and I did So that's book one of two. This is two of three Wolverine and the Punisher and here is book three of three So kind of like a basic design in my opinion. It's more basic than anything else still a little bit collectible Back here. You can barely see it. There is a fate design in each one of them But to me, it's the most basic comic book design I've ever had and probably the most basic one that is in my collection Moving on This is a high issue number. This is issue number 150 of Spider-Man and the X-Men So this is the last Marvel team up. That's what it says here. It's an older one. This was 125 back in the day something tells me it was 1984 so probably one of my oldest comic books. I do have some around this era But honestly This is probably the best conditioned one I have that's that old I Do have some that are the early 80s and they're all reps and torn. This one's actually beautiful condition great cover I like I like the team up comics Kind of like this one here world's finest comic starring Superman and Batman This is issue number 292 60 cent comic back in the day DC once again, I wouldn't say I'm a huge DC fan, but I do respect, you know some of them Of course Batman Superman flash many more Justice League and that To the point that I have the and I've already shared this in an early comic book video But now that I have an actual phone something better quality that I can record on this is the history of the DC universe This is book one Book one, I'm not sure how many there are. I'm pretty sure there's only two and I have the second one here, too Reason I like these kind of books is because it gives you kind of a base run of Everything within the universe, so you know everything about your superheroes It will give a list of all their traits all their powers all their weaknesses who their villain villains are and It's really interesting those type of comics. I do have a few more for different ones transformers have already shared that few months This one here. What year is this? Okay? This is my oldest one and it's 1979 Marvel two-in-one the thing and the human torch Of course the fantastic four two members right there Great cover great artwork towering infernos Issue number 59 1979 it's in great condition bagged and boarded Even the staples the staples aren't even rusty on it Not sure the value of it. I didn't even remember that I had this comic I'm just going through picking out some to record with and it happened to be one that I picked So maybe I'll have to check the value of that but 1979 that condition. That's probably the best one of the best comics I have This one here looks like a reprint if you ask me I can tell It says issue one for starters It says 1986 but it says two dollars and fifty cents for the comic the second thing that's throwing me off of why I don't think it's a 19 sorry in 1986 why I don't think it's in 1986 is How Wolverine is designed I? Did have a few reprint ones and It actually said they're reprint and he looked just like that there I think in the 80s. He was more of the black and blue Black blue yellow, but this one here. It's a red and yellow. So that might be I might be wrong I might be right. I'm not a pro. I just enjoy collecting another one This is issue number one of a four-part series. I have all four once again. I like collecting these Four packs. This is 1986 fantastic for versus the X-Men You have Dr. Doom right on the cover that is pretty good. I like that Issue number two Maybe I was wrong about the spider-man versus X or Wolverine because Looks just like that there does feel like a reprint though when it's that That big of a comic, but I might be wrong issue number three Great artwork. That's another thing that draws me towards Specific comics is if the artwork looks great. I Am likely to buy it because I like design and like comic and if the theme and the subject matter is behind it That's another reason why I collect them too. So this is number four If I didn't already see that I can't remember this one here is Not like a not a three-part series But I have issue one two and three of and it's Nick Fury agents of shield Back whenever he was white they did however change him to being the bald African-American Just like the show or the the one movie. I can't remember which Because the actor that played it they wanted to resemble him so Marvel actually changed the character instead of looking like this He's completely changed Samuel L. Jackson is now what he looks like exactly like he did in the movie or the TV show so kind of a Some fans really didn't like that. But anyways, that's issue one issue number two I wouldn't say I'm a fan of the TV show either but I do respect the comics and Finally the last comic issue number three So those are the comics I'm sharing with you guys today. I do have more collab Ones I do have some transformers versus GI Joes. Can't remember if I shared them before I do have some four-part series and nine-part series five and six-part series of Different ones like Iron Man Captain America some Spartan man So if you're interested give this video a thumbs up. Let me know down in the comments I'll make a video like that in the future Hopefully I'll be sharing more and more of these comic book videos for you guys because you guys seem to be liking them Quite a bit and it's a collection. I just have sitting here. So why not share it with you guys? I think it's a win-win for both of us. But anyways, I will see you guys in the next one Hope you guys did enjoy peace


Yeah, and I'm looking forward to publish and call this content. Okay, so next, Hashita, are you ready? Yeah, so hi all. Hi all. So thanks for your presentation. And you can just share your screen if you need it. Oh, okay. So for this talk, I just wanted to show a demo. And just so, so my project for the gen. So I'm working on working with GSOC 2021. And the project named get credentials binding. So in this under this project, we are trying to achieve. Get authentication in pipeline jobs. So I've created a small demo. It's not a big one, but I think we can get an idea of what we are doing here. So in this pipeline script, we are using the potential binding plugin as a dependency. To bind the get specific environment variables such as get ask pass or get SSH to perform the authentication operations on the behalf of the user. So they don't have to worry about any workarounds or any prompts that you might get when you perform the authentication on a command line or console. So we can see that there are three in my four environment environment bindings that are being used to carry out this operation. So the get ask pass is basically used for store for storing the path of the script that will be executed when it asks for the username password of the user to carry out the operation. In this, in this example, I am just making just making a clone of the repository of a private repository. So I'm making the clone of this repository, which is a private repository. Well, this is also this binding is tested on a lot of OS environments in windows in various Linux distributions such as send OS open to open VSD. And various architectures as well. So the project for now I have shown the user name and password binding, but there's also another binding called get SSH private key binding, which will use for the SSH protocol authentication. That's all for the talk. Thank you.


From London, England, extracting the signal from the noise. It's theCUBE, Cover, Discover 2015. Brought to you by Hewlett Packard Enterprise. Now your hosts, John Furrier and Dave Vellante. Okay, welcome back everyone. We are live here in London, England for HPE Discover. This is SiliconANGLES theCUBE, our flagship program. When we go out to the events and extract the signal from the noise, I'm John Furrier. I'm my co-host Dave Vellante. Our next guest is Donac Weil, Vice President of Global Product Line Management at HPE Networking, Aruba. Welcome back to theCUBE. Thank you. Good to see you. So day three, things are rocking, it's pretty clear. The storylines, the four pillar areas, our transformation areas are out. HPE Networking, you know, we love talking to networking because one, you guys have been on theCUBE all the time. Networking is where all the action is, SDN is evolving. Some say not baked, some say it's evolving fast. You got OpenStack in the club, big networking component. You got Aruba just really crushing it on the wireless side. You leave by a stadium, great case study on stage. Wireless, wired, coming together. That's right. At the edges, wireless, wired in the network. Yeah. Give us the update. Well, I mean, really what we've been looking at is, you know, as we integrate what was HPE Networking with Aruba, creating a new networking organization. A lot of the focus with the Aruba acquisition was around and the strategy was around bringing together the wired network and integrating the wireless network together and creating an access layer. Because, you know, as we move forward, wireless becomes a primary form of connectivity in the enterprise, and then in the future, what you're going to get, you're going to get all these IoT devices, headless devices, some of which are still going to connect in a wired manner. You don't want to be having two different operational models for that. And so you want a sort of single policy management and security model. You want a single sort of analytics model.  So you develop an access layer. And then it doesn't really matter what the connection medium is. Because you're going to be a policy-driven access control and security. So, you know, if I expect something to be a sensor and suddenly it starts asking for patient records, I know there's a problem there because, you know, the policy was it's a sensor. So once the integration is done from a headcount standpoint, a selling motion standpoint, is that sort of job one from a development perspective? Is creating that single policy model, security model, analytics model? And has any of that work been pre-done with your earlier relationship? Talk about that a little bit. So, you know, yes, what we're starting with is we're starting by taking the, so the great thing about Aruba is they were not just about wireless. Aruba is all about mobility.  There's a lot of software IP. Yeah, there's a lot of software IP. And so, job one really is taking our switching infrastructure and bringing that under, for instance, the management layer, clear pass, which is the security and policy layer, under, you know, other tools, the analytics tools, our location tools, and bringing this all together and sort of truly knitting together and integrating the wired and the wireless together. So that's really job one. So as, you know, we're really bringing to market an end-to-end story in the campus. And that sort of single view of policy, security, analytics comes as part of that? Is that right? Yeah, that's right, yeah. It's just bringing it all under the same tool set. Dominic, can you talk about the rationale for the Aruba acquisition in terms of both the organizational and the market implications? Yeah, I mean, so when we looked at, you know, the strategy, you know, quite a while back now, what we recognized was that there was a significant change about to happen in the market. The advent of 11AC Wave 2 with multi-gigabit wireless was really going to be the first time that enterprises started to adopt wireless as a primary connectivity medium. And what enterprise is needed, while we already had a, you know, a very good wireless connectivity solution, what we didn't have was a mobility experience. And to actually go, you know, build that is a very, very difficult thing to do. And so, you know, the reason really for, you know, Well, if you didn't have the wireless asset, your access method kind of is decoupled from the actual ability. Yeah, it's more of a traditional overlay. So you take the wired network and you overlay wireless on it and they're kind of disconnected. So, you know, the idea was, well, you know, Aruba is, you know, was and is the leading mobility company and bringing all that software IP together with us as the number two switching vendor and creating a new entity that could integrate that as a solution and create what we call the mobile first infrastructure and the mobile first, you know, vision was what we set out to do. And we, you know, we're actually executing on that fairly quickly. You know, the product roadmap is defined.  So the first stages are already happening. There's a lot more work to do. You know, there's so much opportunity in, you know, into the advent of IoT and wireless, so much going on. So if I were to say it fundamentally changes the strategy of HP networking, is that a fair thing to say? Because essentially I would have described it previously as okay, you're a good alternative to the number one, you know, player, as opposed to now you're trying to change the game. Can you talk about that a little bit more? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, again, the idea was, and I think you characterize it very well. Yeah, we were a great alternative to Cisco and we did very well, growth was great. But, you know, what we wanted to be was we wanted to be a leader and, you know, we are a leader in terms of innovation. Because, you know, if you're on the cutting and bleeding edge of innovation and you're really solving customer problems, I mean today, most IT shops now are finding that line of business is actually defining what they need to do and that they are in partnership with line of business and they're creating true business outcomes and value for the customer. You can't do that if you're just kind of following along in the industry. You have to be on the bleeding edge of innovation. And there's so much to do in that, sort of, you know, my logo. There's big data in there too. I mean, I think Dominic, the wireless overlay issue is a huge deal. Eliminating the overlay, huge BFD, in my opinion. So that's going to be a big opportunity with all the campus upgrades and all the trends, all the refreshes. And so, I'm excited to track that. I want to go a little deeper into the core now and get into SDN. So take me through the SDN vision because there are things going right along and you've got services like infrastructure, policy-based, fill in the blank. Now, SDN, what does that fit in? So, software defined network, I mean, first of all, everybody's got a different idea of what SDN is. So, you know, my definition of SDN is it's not a feature, it's not a product. It's really a framework. It's a different way of looking at the network. So it really looks at the network as a system and defines a new control surface for it, which is programmatic. That to me is a simple explanation of what SDN is. So, you know, it manifests itself in many, many different ways. And- That's kind of like hybrid cloud. There's no one product skew. Right. It's built into how you deploy and manage. It is, and it's really all about, it's about automation and it's about making things dynamic. So, you know, networking has been static set and forget for 25 years. I love that phrase. SDN allows you to make the network dynamic and responsive and agile. So, you know, you can automate a lot more things. You can derive and pull out more of the value that already exists in the network. So in the context, for instance, of, you know, of mobility, there's already a lot of context information that the network holds. It already understands who the end user is. It understands where that user is. It understands what that user wants to do. So bringing that context out in a software defined manner and being able to bring all that context together, it makes the job of defining policy and role-based controls much easier. So is that an efficiency benefit value? Is it a performance benefit? Is it the above? It's security, it's efficiency, but most of all, you know, what we're seeing customers get excited about, it's enabling them to play a role themselves in generating new lines of business, new revenue streams and being able to bring a much better experience to their user base while reducing the overhead, the operational overhead that it takes to, you know, deliver these things. So Dave asked all the guests, Scott Weller, we were talking about, we're not going to tell you what we said so you can get your answer. IoT is a big, big deal. And in general, networking is great. So I got to ask you first, in generally speaking, before we get into IoT, what's the number one action item that you would say to a CXO-CIO in terms of, okay, the new normal in networking is, and to end, the overlays are challenging when they make sense, they make sense, you can actually get pure end to end for policy to the true edge. You can do some good things. So here's your action item, go do something. What are the three things that CIOs need to do? If they buy into, okay, I love the wireless front end. I love getting into the core to get some sort of network benefits around SD and all that good stuff. At the end of the day, I want to have the composable infrastructure and infrastructure as code and make a boatload of money from my apps and my teams are happy. What's my action item for networking? I mean, so, you know, within the IoT framework, you know, with networking, I mean, I would say the number one thing is understand what the use case is that you want to do. I mean, what is the business value that you want to derive? That is actually, people tend to jump the gun and try and sort of get to the implementation before they're understanding what business value they're deriving. You know, a great example of this is, you know, what we've done in terms of sensor networks, in terms of wayfinding and indoor GPS using BLE sensors. So, you know, we deployed this at the Niner Stadium, but, you know, we've been talking to a lot of customers about this capability. So, the 1.0 version of this was to use BLE sensors to be able to say, okay, I can get very accurate information about where a user is and I can get them to subscribe to a service, use an app and provide a digital map to help them find their way around in certain circumstances. So, at the Niner Stadium, I can tell them where the nearest bathroom is, where the shortest line is. I can help them to order food from their seat and have it delivered right there so they don't miss the game. So, you know, it's... By the way, that's not fantasy because John Paul, who runs a venue next, gave me a great tour and I was using the app. I had six second video replays from every camera angle and I go, I'm going to test the, I haven't bought a hat, less than six minutes. Had the food, it really is awesome. It's incredible. They know where people are parking, they can resell parking spots. I mean, it's pretty badass. It's absolutely incredible. But, you know, that's kind of, that was one dot-o of mobile engagement. Two dot-o for mobile engagement is what we just announced yesterday, which is we recognize that, you know, one dot-o you had to have in a Ruba wireless LAN infrastructure. But we recognize there was many customers who haven't yet depreciated their equipment, you know, their wireless equipment, and it's a big effort for them to sort of rip and replace everything. But they really want, they have use cases in the healthcare, you know, retail spaces, you know, there's all sorts of use cases where they can derive real business value and outcomes, and they want that, but they have to wait. So what we did was we did mobileengagement2.o and we've introduced a set of new sensors now that combine sensor and wifi, BLE and wifi, that can now communicate with any third party wireless infrastructure and allow people to use that sensor network as an overlay. We've also introduced- Is there APIs built in for the data as well? Yeah, there is. So we've introduced business analytics as well so as you can actually look at and monitor what is going on within that sensor network, dwell times, battery lives, all those kinds of things to make the operational issues easier. And we've also expanded the partner program. So there are APIs there for partners like VenuNext to come in and integrate and be best of breed and unlock that value. And so, you know, I expect that we'll have, you know, different verticals now, we'll have different SIs coming in one thing. This is why your point about knowing your business values, Key and Scott Weller again, you know, we love this services-led infrastructure and it sounds almost like a cliche, and we've heard that so many times, but more than ever, every company's different. Yeah, absolutely. VenuNext at Levi Stadium versus VenuNext in, you know, Live Nation is a completely different animal. They resell services, so, okay. So IoT now, back to IoT. What's your advice to customers on IoT and how would you define the true edge of the network? So I think the, you know, the edge of the network is whatever you make it. You know, I know it's a fairly crappy answer, but it is true, it's whatever you make it. As I said, you know, the lines are blurring. You know, there is no longer that hard perimeter anymore. It's permeable, people can bring, you know, their own devices, they can bring, you know, laptops and things that they'll call their own. And then sensors, sensors can be fixed, they can be mobile, they can be, you know, many different things as well.  You want to have the visibility, you want to be able to troubleshoot it, and then you want to be able to, you know, sort through the data. So there's, you know, a few different levels that you go through here, but the network facilitates all of that. And so, what makes- So the key word is network. Right. So the edge of the network is where the network goes, it stops. I mean, a sensor on its own without a network is an island. It does nothing for you, you know, what it has a very defined perimeter of what it can do for you, a personalized perimeter. Once you network sensors, that's where the power comes from. So, you know, once you're bringing all these things together, what you want to do then is you want to reduce the operational complexity of managing that sea of sensors. And the way to do that is to have a single umbrella of policy management, a single umbrella of security, a single umbrella of troubleshooting. And that is kind of what we bring to the table. That's exactly what we're bringing to the table by just defining an access line. So when you say the edge of the network is whatever you make it, and you said, okay, that's not a great answer, but in fact, it's true. It's whatever assets you have there that are connected. And that might be all the way out to the windmill. That's right. Or maybe not. Right. Where's the trouble spots for a CIO? There's two realities now. There's the, okay, buying into the hype and vision that everything will be connected, which it will be at some point, but the phase one is a little hanging fruit. Yeah. So is the edge of the network, where's the gotchas with the blind spots for the CXOs? Is it where there's no power, no internet? I mean, there's always that, is there problems there we're seeing? We were speculating earlier, that's our view of if there's battery issues, no power and network. Well, I think that... How do you deal with those two huge problems? Well, I think that, to me, the biggest problem is that people believe that IoT is a new thing. It isn't. It's been around for 20 and more years. If you look at HVAC systems and lighting systems, building control systems, in global real estate organizations, they've been doing this for years, but they're on many, many different older standards. They have different power requirements. All of these things are already plumbed into buildings and some of them are not able to or appropriate to connect through IP. So, as we deploy new sensors, the new world of IP-based sensors, we have to find a way to bring the old world and the new world together. And so, from the old world, what you want to be doing is aggregating all those sensors onto a IP gateway, as it were, bring it in into the IP world without actually having to physically change anything. Because ripping the guts out of a building is, in all of these manufacturing buildings and things throughout the world is not going to happen. So you've got to accept that there is an old world of IoT out there that you have to integrate with and into. And that's one of the biggest challenges. The biggest challenges for people is to actually recognize that, understand what the cost there is, and figure out how to bring the old world and the new world into it. It isn't a fair two, the data model is different today. The data model is great. The ability to actually deal with distributed data in a way that you can get meaningful insights out of it and act on it. Yeah, I mean they have unique protocols and there's all sorts of differences here. Power is one big problem. It's, how are you going to power all these things? How are you? Battery? Well, yeah, I mean, so yes. I mean, what we did with our sort of mobility engagement sensors, our location sensors, is we chose to use BLEs as Bluetooth Low Energy that runs off a battery. It's completely independent. You don't need to hook up any power. So it enables you to put those sensors anywhere. They just stick up. Battery life estimated? Battery life is beyond a year, it's two years or so and so they're very low energy. They can go on for a while. Well, now we brought in this analytics capability to that network. I can monitor all the batteries. I can have alarms on the batteries. I can plan for and set thresholds and say, when a battery hits 20%, tell me so as I can forward plan three months. Put it into the rollout plan. Yeah, the truck roll. Yeah, so you can now manage this in a meaningful way which you couldn't before. But they got to build that into their operational cost model.  But the benefit you get in terms of the return on investment in terms of the services that you can enable.  I mean, at any organization, we talk about customers, every customer just nods and says, oh yeah, getting a meeting room is terrible. We work with a company called Robin who do a sort of console outside all the meeting rooms and have a sort of backend system that allows you to do sort of dynamic just in time meeting room booking. So it's like meeting rooms for Uber for meeting rooms. So you look on your mobile device at the app and you say, hey, I need a meeting room for five people. It shows you all the meeting rooms that are available near you. You say, I want one. Here are the constituents I want to bring to this meeting in 10 minutes. They get an invite, but they also get a GPS indoor map that shows them how to get to that meeting room. And you turn up, if it's occupied, hey, I'll just pick another meeting room. It's that easy. Cancel less like Uber.  But that brings up a good point. This is the value. Understanding the cost benefit, not doing IoT for IoT's sake, but understanding, hey, there's value there. It's worth doing it versus the blind ambition of saying, hey, we're not doing it, right? I mean, Levi's stadium's different than? It is, it is. Stadiums that don't have what they have. I've spoken to a lot of healthcare companies here, just coincidentally. And there's sort of a pattern emerging. There is some risk, right? So in a hospital environment, there's probably some things that you don't want to wireless enable, that you want to make sure stay wired. Actually, some hospitals were saying, all their surgery facilities are wireless already, but some hospitals don't want to do that yet. They have a different risk sort of. Is it RF or is it just? Just fear. Is it fear or is it RF interference? Well, it's RF interference, but it really is fear. They haven't had the experience to gain the confidence in the technology. But in your office areas and in your guest areas and your outpatient areas and everything, what you want to be able to do and what they do want to do is use location technologies to be able to provide a much better service to the patients and make it easier for their nurses and doctors to work and make them more efficient. The return on that is huge and is easily calculated. Yeah, I mean, they could do triage on patients while they wait. So because we define, yeah, I mean, we define an access layer. You can have a combination of wired and wireless and you can bring this all under the same policy. It's a huge big data opportunity and that's a nuance of this. It's not the purchase price of the access points anymore. It's the overall solution. I mean, you look at the RFPs for wireless bids. Well, there's big deals like you live by, but these small in comparison to the value. It is, I mean. It's the number one requested feature by consumers. Better Wi-Fi. Better Wi-Fi, yeah, absolutely. Hands down.  I mean, the whole world is addicted to data. I mean, this is why we're buying so much storage, which is a wonderful thing. But, you know, sorting through all that and actually deriving the value out of that data, doing that in an intelligent way, but bringing the context that enables you to really sort of pinpoint the value that you want. You know, think the user ID, which we never done before in networking. A user has always been identified by the port they plug into. It's never about the user identity. Personal area of Bluetooth, networks, you're going to see all the devices connected. It's funny, I'm going to wrap it up, I want to tell you a quick story. So I went over to a friend's house to have some cocktails and dinner, and he was walking with me, giving me a tour around his house. He's like, RJ45, I wired the whole house with fiber. I used two ports. And he's like, so this is back, you know, this is back 15 years ago, you know, at the walls. I'm wiring everything for fiber. I'm never going to have a bandwidth problem. This is during the dial-up internet days, right? And guess what? He doesn't use any of it. So at the point, everyone's going wireless. Campus is the same way. Yeah, well, I'll tell you a funny story. My whole house is wired as well, aren't you? Yeah, but this is the trend, right? I mean, so now the networking of the networking becomes the back to the problem. Again, the overlay is a big deal. I think you guys have great differentiator with Aruba. Yeah, but also, you know, let's not forget that, you know, we're also in the cloud business. We're in the data center business. So, you know, we have our mobile first architecture and our cloud first architecture. So we're participating with the HP synergy team and working on the, you know, the fabrics there and bringing networking value, continuing to bring networking value into, you know, the cloud arena. So wireless is the big bed of networking, leveraging the existing assets, which has always been strong with that networking with HP, with wireless. We like Composable. We think Composable is going to be a big payoff, like converged infrastructure. We were here when converged infrastructure was announced. And we were like, well, converged infrastructure. Remember that? They were like, a lot of people were like, skeptical about it. Now look at it, right? So Composable's same thing. Well, Composable is, you know, Converged was generation one. Hyperconverged generation two. Composable, generation three. Evolutionary or revolutionary? I think both, actually. I mean, you know, my opinion is that actually, Composable will subsume everything that went before in the fullness of time. But I do think it is revolutionary.   You know, and also being able to have that really granular sort of like ability to sort of say, hey, this is, you know, the type of storage I want, the type of compute I want. You know, that is quite revolutionary. You know, we're really proud to be, you know, to be working with the Composable team. It's a great road to cloud native, too, for if you're existing legacy stuff. You don't have to rip and replace, you can take a small road. Yeah, that's right. Okay, we are here, live in theCUBE, talking to networking, talking to Ruba, talking big data, talking to IoT. Be right back with more big data on theCUBE here. Dominic, thanks for your insight. Thank you. Here inside theCUBE, delivering the value in the data. It's all in the content here on theCUBE. Be right back with more from HPE Discover, live in London after the short break.