There is a long history of Linux distributions attempting to collect user data in order to make their projects better This has happened many times over the years Ubuntu has tried it Katie Plasma. Good. No, Linux meant Debbie and you name it Distributions attempt to collect user data and every single time this happens every time it's proposed or it actually happens The Linux community loses their minds because Linux is supposed to be about privacy Windows is the one that collects all the data Linux is supposed to be all about user privacy and user freedom, right? That's the whole stick of Linux, right? And every time a distribution attempts to collect user data People just either don't understand or they get irrationally angry or rationally angry depending on which way you want to look at it And it just kind of causes a lot of drama So we actually have a brand-new piece of drama to discuss today fedora has proposed or a group of people inside of fedora Have proposed to add telemetry to fedora during installation and then beyond, right? so today we're gonna be talking about this proposal and we're gonna kind of go through it just a little bit and It's kind of good kind of bad in my opinion But that's just a little bit of spoilers and then at the end we're gonna talk about the merits of actually collecting telemetry And some of the pitfalls that we could see so let's go ahead and talk about the proposal before we do if you could leave A thumbs up on this video. I'd really appreciate it. It really does help the channel So the proposal was given by the red hat display systems teams now This right here is our first red flag over why there's so much drama This all comes on the back end of the whole red hat shenanigans of the last few weeks Now if you haven't been following it red hat decided to take red hat enterprise Linux and put it behind a Paywell all the source code which you can then debate over not whether or not still open source all this stuff There's a whole bunch of drama going on with red hat people have now considered that red hat is the devil and all this stuff now Depending on what side you come down on that, you know, there's a whole argument and stuff like that But we don't need to go into that but really one of the things that set a lot of people off is that this is being Proposed by some people inside of red hat who work on fedora Which there are a lot of red hat people who work on fedora It red hat has a lot of influence over fedora And that's one of the reasons that a lot of people are upset about this proposal beyond that There are some actual problems with the proposal. So first let's talk about what they're actually Proposing to do basically what they want to do is during installation They want to have an option and we'll talk about that option here in a minute of Collecting usage metrics on fedora workstation and if you go down to this section here Over what data they may collect they give some examples So they want to talk about the banners in good home software how frequently panels and good home settings are Accessed and used so that they can determine if they can get rid of some of them or not Right, so they don't want to go down the whole KDE path where they just have a whole bunch of panels and their settings panel is completely You know overwhelming to new users and regular users alike So those are the types of options that they are Thinking of collecting or the type of data that they're thinking of collecting a lot of people had a big problem though with this section Right here because those Examples that I just said said are two of just the very few Examples of data that they actually say they want to collect the rest of it is very vague Talking about the goals of what they'll do with the data once they collect it instead of the actual data that they're going to collect So there's no dot-by-dot list of what data they want to collect instead They sell they basically say they'll get to that later once the proposal has been approved And that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way because when you're making this type of Controversial change the more information you have to convince people the absolute better And I think that that is where one of the mistakes that they really made with this proposal is that they have Not given as much information as they should have right out the bat Now if you want to see some fantastic Linux drama, I highly recommend you go into the comment sections of this proposal You'll probably be reading for hours because there are hundreds upon hundreds of comments There's several breakout discussions and stuff that they've developed talking about different topics and aspects of this proposal It's fantastic if you like the type of Linux drama that I like So definitely head on over to the comment section below if you want to read those But beyond that there are a couple things here that stand out for me the biggest one if you go we go down here to User control now this section here just is really weird So they are not interested in opt-in metrics. So by default this is going to be opt-out But also not really so it's really weird So let me I'm gonna actually read this so a new metrics collection setting will be added to the privacy page in Gnome initial setup And also to the privacy page in GNOME control center This setting will be a toggle that will enable or disable metrics collection for the entire system We want to ensure that the metrics are never submitted to fedora without the user's knowledge and consent So the underlying setting will be off by default in order to ensure metrics upload is Not unexpectedly turn on when upgrading from an older version of fedora So if you just stop there you think well, this is opt-in and that's okay, right? Because a lot of people are much more Okay with opt-in metric collection than they are with opt-out meaning that it's on by default So that whole partial paragraph right there says basically that it's opt-out, but it's not actually opt-out It's actually opt-in or excuse me. It's opt-out not opt-in messed up there But as they go on to say however, we also want to ensure that the data we collect is meaningful So GNOME initial setup will default to displaying the toggle as enabled even though the underlying setting will initially be disabled The underlying setting will not actually be enabled until the user finishes the privacy page to ensure users have the opportunity to disable the setting Before any data is uploaded. This is to ensure that the system is opt-out not opt-in This is essential because we know that opt-in metrics are not very useful few users would opt-in because and this is me saying this nobody actually wants you to collect user data and Therefore they would not actually volunteer this you have to actually trick people in order to get there And that's part of the reason a lot of people have problems with opt-out metrics So and then they go on and then these users would not be a representative of fedora users as a whole We are not interested in opt-in metrics So basically what they're saying here is if you're an existing user fedora when you upgrade to a new version of fedora It won't be turned on by default for you, which is very nice of them I suppose but if you're installing fedora fresh You are going to have to turn this off in order to actually not be a part of the collected data So the whole opt-in opt-out argument is probably the one argument that happens every single time a distribution proposes data collections. So with Ubuntu, it's opt-out by default during their install installer okay, and they had faced quite a bit of Flack for that, but they never reverted and I guess kudos for them for sticking to their guns But that pissed a lot of people off because opt-in Metrics a much more user and floss friendly, right? it's more privacy respecting and Because people don't necessarily always read the things that they are you know actually Seeing on their screen during the installation. They should do but they don't so it comes across as Disingenuous to have that on by default because a lot of people aren't going to actually notice that it's there Right, especially a new screen that people have never seen before They might pass by and never actually know what they're agreeing to which is you know their problem not fedora's But again, it's a problem right and Ubuntu face the same thing now many other projects have decided to do Opt-in metrics so plasma has opt-in metrics Debian has opt-in metrics meaning that you have to turn it on in order for that data to be collected Which is and I think that most people agree with that's the proper way of doing it in terms of being a very you know Foss friendly user friendly privacy respecting project So that seems to be something that they're not even considering and that's one of the if you go and read the comment section Below that's one of the things that a lot of people have a big problem with is that this is going to be opt-out Not opt-in and they're not even willing to have a conversation about it, right? This is a community proposal, but this is the one option where they're like You know, this is the way we're gonna do it And if we're not gonna do it this way we might as well not do it at all, right? So the opt-in opt-out argument is probably the biggest problem with the proposal that a lot of people are having and I can see where they're coming from because opt-out is always worse than opt-in You should always always be opt-in But I can also say the developer's point of view here because if you have it as Opt-in you're not gonna have as much data There which means that it's going to be less useful the more data you have if you're going to do this The better because it gives you an idea of actual trends. So it's like having a poll during a political season the the bigger the poll and the wider range of People that you ask the more likely you are to get to an answer that actually Represents the broader range of opinions, right? That's the same thing here the more data you have the better It is for actually understanding what how fedora is actually used So I understand that point of view, but if you're going to be a Privacy respecting open-source project if that's the image that you want to Actually push out there to the public you have to follow through with that You can't say that and then do something else which is apparently what they are proposing to do Another spot here that where a lot of people had a problem was this part about the GDPR now I am an American through-and-through yee-haw And I don't know much about the GDPR.  I guess I don't know But the this section here made a lot of people upset because it is fedora legal's obligation to ensure our data collection complies with legal requirements in the jurisdictions in which redhead operates This is not an obligation of the fedora community So there is no need to discuss GDPR rules on our mailing list another Aspect of this proposal where they just basically said this is somebody else's problem. There's no sense in Debating it at all. Let's not talk about it. Well that The idea behind this kind of proposal all aspects of it have to be available for discussion, right and To say blatantly well, let's just not talk about this And then to go on to say something like the proposal owners will not respond to mailing list posts that discuss GDPR Similar legal obligations during the change proposal discussion in short Let's keep this discussion focused on what fedora should and should not do whether or not and what it must or must not do now I can kind of understand the whole argument here because basically they're gonna have to follow the GDPR whether The discussion in the comment sections changes their mind changes their mind and are not so they're gonna follow the law But there are things that could be beneficial to discuss relating to privacy and the GDPR and so like that and to say We're not even going to reply to that kind of stuff It doesn't really seem to be the most open-minded kind of proposal and it to have that to be the second place where they said Basically, we're not going to discuss this It kind of rub people the wrong way now the last thing that I wanted to talk about is who has access to the data so Basically what they've said throughout the proposal is that the data that they're collecting is going to be available via an open source Server and that they're going to be very explicit in documentation over what data They have collected where that data resides and how they're actually using that data now Here's the issue though right is that we have to trust them at their word now If they are going to maintain that transparency throughout that's probably better than any other distribution does it But we've had examples before people of the distro saying they're going to be transparent and they're not actually being transparent about it So for example, and I know I'm picking on a boon to they collect data like this and it's opt out Which means that it's on by default and they do actually Actually post the data that they collect eventually And by eventually I mean they do it many many months after it's been collected after they've used it They don't do it They don't will do a good job of explaining explicitly what they've used that data for And they're not very transparent on over on where that data is kept How it's stored and all this stuff and Obviously that's just the way they've Decided to do it And I say fedora has done a better job of being transparent about it so far because ubuntu just decided to do telemetry Whereas the fedora team is actually proposing it and allowing people to discuss it before it happens So there is a difference there but it does Require some trust on the part of the linux in fedora community and specifically That they're actually going to maintain that transparency You know long term And whether or not you do trust the fedora team kind of comes down to the Idea of whether or not you trust red hat because yes fedora is a community project Yes, most if not all the control over fedora is with the community But red hat does have quite a bit of Influence on the direction fedora goes and if that influence were to turn into a negative You know direction What is to say that the data that they collect doesn't Somehow end up behind a paywall someday I don't know I doubt that that actually happens But you know there's a bad taste that has been in everybody's mouth regarding anything to do with red hat And that this is being proposed by a team at red hat Does give you some pause over whether or not the trust can be extended to this proposal So whether or not you come down on one side or the other really depends on whether or not you can say you Absolutely trust the fedora team me personally. I mostly trust the fedora team But I also have a healthy level of skepticism over all telemetry simply because I don't think that There is a very good way of ever doing it in terms of absolute privacy There's always going to be some kind of data there that is Identifiable in some way Whether it's through a I or huge language models or whatever You know tracking you through that kind of data is possible. It's been shown to be possible So there's no good way to collect telemetry telemetry and be privacy focused That's that's my whole argument about this whole thing and I guess the Where we should end up is kind of to talk about the broader sense of whether or not telemetry Is a good thing or a bad thing and I could probably talk about this for quite a while But for me personally I can see both sides of it Whenever something like this comes up one of the things that I do In my brain hole is to try to see both sides because Not everything is always good. Not everything is always bad. Usually everything is right in the middle, right? Things when two people are trying to tell a story about what happened. Usually You know the truth is somewhere in the middle, right? And and it's the same thing here You know there's always two sides of whatever is going on And I try to see both sides of that so I can understand that they want to have data to make fedora better and theoretically as a former fedora user I am okay with the idea of that because I want fedora to get better Just like I wanted, you know, ubuntu to get better and debian to get better and every distribution that has attempted to do this I want them to get better. I don't want them to stay the same and if Collecting tiny smidges of user data can help them make things better. I think that that's okay But I can also from the privacy side of things understand why users Don't want their data collected and they don't want to have that data in the hands of people that might someday not be trustworthy Whether the trustworthy now or not people want to have control absolute control over their data Especially people who use linux people who use linux are much more likely to Want that control over the data than someone who uses google chrome, right? You know those you know people if you use google, you know, you've basically sold your data for those free services When you choose to use privacy respecting software like linux You want to have that full control? So where I come down on this really does come down to the idea How this is done is the most important thing whether or not it is done or not can be Debated by other people but for me The most important thing has always been how Is this done because we've seen as I said before Examples of this being handled poorly and it being handled well. I think fedora comes down somewhere in the middle They are definitely being more open about this process than ubuntu was by far You know like said ubuntu just did it right and whether or not there was some discussion beforehand in in Like ubuntu land like ubuntu forms or not. I don't know. I never saw any of that stuff But it definitely never went mainstream right was definitely was not a A large conversation amongst the greater ubuntu community right with fedora This has become something that is right out there in the public as it should be and I think that that is a good thing I think that them Making this proposal and having it being a community decision is also a good thing I also think that the proposal has some problems It's not as specific on what actual data that they want to collect and while I understand the idea that they don't have All that information yet. They haven't come up with those ideas yet I think that they could have done a much better job of saying these are at least the things that we've thought of So far that we wanted to collect beyond just the four things that they mentioned And I think that that would have set some people You know set some people's minds at ease if they had at least a list of things that hey These this is the data points that we want to collect. This is how we're going to collect it This is where we're going to store this is who's going to have access to it And while they do have some of that information in there a big portion of this proposal Is focused mostly on the goals of what they'll do with the data once they have it instead of the actual data They're going to collect right and that rubbed a lot of people the wrong way So for me personally, I think that the like I said the most important Thing about all of this is how that how it's handled and fedora has both positive and negatives when it comes to that So, uh, here's my question for y'all. What do you guys think of fedora adding telemetry to fedora? Do you think it's a good thing or a bad thing? I think I have a I think that a lot of people are going to say automatically that it's a bad thing But I implore you to think about it on both sides just like I did Do you do how do you think that this should be handled? Is it being handled? Well all that stuff in the comment section below. Let me know what you think I'd love to hear from you and I will like I said, I'll link the proposal in the video description Highly recommend going and reading the comments. They're pure gold in many different cases because people are riled up about this So go read them. You'll be happy you did So that's it for this video If you haven't already leave a thumbs up that really does help the channel You can follow me on masses on our odyssey those links will be in the video description You can support me on paypal or patreon at patreon.com slash the linux cast Thanks to everybody who does support me on patreon. You guys are all absolutely amazing without you the challenges If we're not be anywhere near where it is right now, so thank you so very very much for your support I truly do appreciate you guys are awesome. Thank you so very very much. Thanks everybody for watching I'll see you next time. Stay safe. Stay happy. Stay linux. 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Hello everyone and welcome back to my channel. Today is wash day and after about two weeks of my hair being in mini twist, my hair and scalp are desperately in need of some TLC. My hair is dry and has lots of product build up and my scalp is itching. And I kind of like when my hair is dry, dull and dirty because it makes me enjoy my wash day that much more. It's my me time, I turn on some good music and it's just very relaxing and therapeutic. I think of my hair as a whole nother person that I have to take care of and give much needed attention to. And I've come to really love my mini twist, they're so convenient and easy to manage and I can get a few cute hairstyles out of it. And plus the temperatures will be dropping very low all this week so I wanted to redo and refresh my twist, one to keep my hair protected and two to put the moisture back into my hair. The less I mess with my hair and cold temperatures the better. So the products I'll be using to wash and style my hair consists of a pre-poo, a shampoo, a deep conditioner, a leave in spray and a styling butter. So let's go ahead and jump into this wash day because I am ready. For my pre-poo I'll be using from African Pride, Moisture Miracle, Allo and Coconut Water. This is a detangle and condition pre-shampoo. It helps to minimize breakage for natural curls and curls. This product is thick and it looks like it will cling to my hair really well to make it easier to detangle my hair.  This product is going to help me get the moisture back into my hair and also to get my hair detangled as much as possible before shampooing. This product promises to nourish, condition, moisturize, strengthen and protect your hair against breakage. What? Are you guys seeing the extreme slipation that this product has? Like this pre-poo is everything. Like my fingers are just slipping and sliding, gliding all through my hair without any tools. Like this is amazing. Like it is absorbing into my hair and penetrating my hair so well. It is melting my tangles instantly. Like I've never had a pre-poo do this to my hair before. This is definitely standard by natural hair stash. Next I'll be using the 50-50 Balance Hydrating Clarifying Shampoo for normal to dry hair. This product is from the Giovanni Hair Care line. This is one of my favorite products for moisture and manageability and is low porosity friendly. It leaves my hair perfectly pH balanced, hydrated and clean. It has a lightly fragrance scent that's very pleasing to the nose. Next is my most favorite part of Wash Day which is the deep conditioning part. I'll be using from Mazzani the scalp hair deep conditioner for dry scalp, braids and extensions. It's infused with aloe, avocado and sunflower oil. This ultra rich deep conditioner is formulated for intense conditioning. So I'm just going to apply this deep conditioner from roots to ends, leave it on for 5-10 minutes as it states and then rinse it out. So now to the last step which is styling. Now since I deal with an itchy scalp, I'll be using the Scab Relief Tea Tree Leave-In Spray. This product contains tea tree, mint and coconut oil. It has vitamins and nutrients to keep my hair nourished and the natural oils helps to replace lost moisture. I love the cooling sensation this product leaves on my scalp especially with my hair being in twist. It's not only easy to replenish and refresh my hair and scalp daily but it also softens and detangles my hair if I need to go back in to re-twist any twists that may be looking a little disheveled or crazy because it will help to reactivate my styler to prevent packing on more product. What I also love about this Leave-In is that it's very light and weightless. For my mini twist I'll be using from Allocate Naturals Lemon Grass Super Twisting Butter. I honestly couldn't wait until it got cold enough to start using my butters. I love using butters in the winter time and the colder months because it just protects my hair and leaves my hair very moisturized. This product hydrates and moisturizes my hair and aids as a protectant from my hair drying out in extreme cold temperatures. Plus it leaves me with beautifully defined juicy twists with a signature lemon scent that's absolutely divine to smell. The Lemon Grass oil helps to strengthen hair follicles, promote healthy hair growth, reduce shedding, soothe a dry itchy scalp and leave my hair with a beautiful shine. So I'm going to finish the rest of my twists off camera and just come back and show you the final results because this process can take a very long time and I don't have enough battery life to do that. So I'll be back in a moment. Two hours later. Almost two hours to complete all of my twists and I'm tired. My hair feels good. My scalp feels really good right now and I almost forgot how much I really love this super twisting butter because I haven't used it since last year when it was cold. But what I really love about this twisting butter is it really gets my roots and holds my roots down so my roots are not puffy and it actually does a whole lot better than any gel probably could have done with my hair. So I'm glad I did not use a gel to retwist my hair and use this butter. It just made the overall look of my hair from the roots all the way down look really good. So I really love that twisting butter. Also, I love this scalp relief tea tree. These two right here are going to be my go-tos for the winter time, for the colder months. These two work really well together. So what I did is I would spray my hair, saturate my hair with the leave-in first and then I'll go in with the butter and just work that into my hair and then start twisting from the roots all the way down and again it's just a really great outcome. So this is probably going to last me another two weeks and then I'll just redo it again if it lasts longer great but I'll try to do this every two weeks because it's just very time-consuming and it's a very tedious job to go in and do all these twists. One thing I will say my scalp I inched no more so I'm just going to pop up onto the dryer for about 15-20 minutes just to dry it a little bit more before I go to bed because I don't want to go to bed and my hair is still damp so I'm going to do that and pretty much just call it a night after that. So that concludes the video I hope you guys enjoy watching me take down my old twists and doing a full wash day with the products that I use and then putting my twists back in with the more refreshed look so I hope you guys enjoy that. If you did don't forget to like comment and subscribe it's just Janine and I will see you on the next video. Bye guys!


What's going on everyone? Sam here with Leighton sports cards for Saturday night NBA 20 box prism at treasures basketball mixer random team style. Here's a look again at your random results. As always you can find these on the website under the results tab as well as the link and chat. Good luck here everybody let's get going. All right we're going to start with prism multi-sello two boxes of those um yes two boxes 2020-21 at prism multi-sello. What about Wayne Wright? That's a good one. I mean he may not be top 10 but he's got to be in up there right? I think so. Carlton you said Carlton. Yeah I don't think Carlton is top 10. He said one of them is 80 years old. Really? So they were born in one is if beyond if retired. That's why we're saying we said cranky or uh oh what about bum garner? Madison bum garner? So it's gotta be a guy that's on a team. Yeah we'll do 2012-13 iMac last. A guy that's on a team right now that hasn't really. Rich Hill that's not bad. It's not a bad guess Chris. I like that. Hamels is a good throw. So not Wayne Wright not cranky not Hamels. It's gotta be a guy who's like a free agent but has not played since the 2000s. Uh Johan Santana? What's up elite? Here we go guys. Wouldn't be like Mayor Shaw. What do we use for top loaders? Um Santana. Go Harris. Let's go! Winston, Brent Forbes. Let's go Sam. Big pull there. Big pull on Johan. Oh we use like Carport Gold usually. Yeah Vulcan Shield sometimes too. Johan yeah there we go. There we go Wahoos. All right so we need what seven and nine? Yeah Shrooder. Tyler Hero on the green. Dominance Russ. Oh be Top and Rookie. Avery Bradley. Uh Bayan was 690. 690 a spot. Satchel Page is a good guess. Is the 80-year-old guy still available? He's gotta be right? I think so right yeah. Tim Duncan. Josh Green. Kenyon Martin Jr. Just seven and nine left. Yeah I'm banning that guy. No self-promotion. Bye bye. Couldn't think of his name just saw his face. Who Santana? Yeah that was Johan. Smoltz. Kenny Rogers. Silver Zion. Green Rookie is Cassius Winston. Devon Vassal Rookie as well. Hoku and base. So one is kind of retired. Shilling have been named okay. Good pull on Shilling by the way Wahoos. Silver or Peyton Prichard for the Cs. Green Clay. Denny Avdea. Sorry guys. I know the iffy. I agree with that. Like is it Granky? Granky is what I thought it would have been. Bartolo Cologne. I mean Silver Lebron. Just realized this is the Patsy Folle mixer. Green Porter. There's Obi Toppin. Ain't no stopping. Achua Devon Vassal. Caleb Martin. Silver Kira Lewis Jr. Green is Kobe White. And Patrick Williams on the rookie. Tyrell Terry. Christian Wood. Uh oh. Raise Red Sox. Oh David Price. Yeah there we go. Wow. Silver Cody Zeller. Wow. Green Mo Bamba. Kira Lewis Jr. Shame on me man. J.M.I.S. Ramsey that's tough. Lamello on the rookie. Nice one there.  Let's go Chris. That's our Chris right there. I don't know if you knew that. Yeah. Let's go Chris. Now for the old man. Man I know it's gonna be that one. What is Price? Is he nine or is he seven? Silver Jeremy Grant. There's Brynn Forbes. Akora. Taylor Maladon. And base. If I miss. Like completely whiffed. Completely whiffed. That's not good. Price is nine. Okay. All right. Seven no one will get it. Silver D. Anthony Milton. Green Dennis Schroeder. He's an old guy. Born in. Tyrese Halliburton. 42. Played like during the 60s. Yeah. In 70s. You said cofax. That's not right. Yeah. Birdie Jenkins. That's a good one. That's Chris Dunn. Silver. Green. Taylor Maladon. Leave one most of this career. Patrick Williams rookie. Is it Feller? Bob Feller. But he was like 30s right? 30s and 40s. Think so. Lefty. Silver Alex Caruso. Nicola Jochich. Precious Atua. Otsuru and Nico Manion. All right. Onto our red, white, and blues. There's Jalen Smith. But a righty. There's Jada McDaniels. Red, white, and blue. Cassius Winston. Kind of a color match for the wizards. Red, white, and blue. I'm gonna text my dad. Let's go Wahoos. Taylor Maladon. Brynn Forbes. Bass. Not bass, but non-roofies. I'm the Forneyi. There's an ant man. I just won there. Anthony Edwards to the T Wolves. Tyler Hero. There's Jordan Nora. Royal City play. Bass. All right. Onto the second multi-seller. Other than Cleveland, San Francisco. You said Marishaw. It's a righty anyway. Yeah. Not Capricencer, right? No, he's a righty. He's a righty. Gidry was always the inky, though, wasn't he? Think so, yeah. I feel like most of his career. Think so. What about Lefty Gomez? Lefty Gomez? Louis Tiana was a righty, I think. But, oh, that's a good guess. Honestly, I would have never thought of this guy. So it's a name, then. It's at least a name. Would have never thought of this guy. Jeff J. Sam McDowell. Wow. I've never heard of him. Look at that. And that's what Wahoos dad said, too. Holy cow, man. Geez, dude. That was a tough one. That's crazy. Wow, man. Pack one. This is great. This is great. This is fun. This is a lot of fun, man. I know Jeff J. and Wahoos dad coming in clutch right there. From Living in Ohio. Wow. What a pole, Jeff. Silver Malkai Flynn. He was close. Jackson Hayes. Jalen Smith. Saban Lee. And base. Since we're on basketball, oh yeah, fair. Someone else take over. I was going to say, since we're on basketball, we got to do a basketball trivia. Silver, Malik Beasley. We got Jake taking over. Danny Avdia. Malakai Flynn. Patrick Williams. Sergi Baca. Only played 10 years. Wow, dude. He must have pitched a ton of innings, bro. That's cool. That's a lot of fun from his cards and his stories. Top 10 in NBA history in steals. Silver, Jordan Nora. All right, top 10 steals. Since we're on basketball, we're doing a basketball one now, Josh Green. Jason Kidd. He's not in the top 10. Wow. Oh yeah, he is. Number two. I'm sorry. Number two. Jay Kidd at number two. Payton Stockton. Magic Westbrook. Payton's on there. He's number five. Tony Snow. David Robinson. Tyrese Halbert. Stockton, he's number one. Of course. Magic's not in the top 10. MJ's number four. That's crazy. That just goes to show how good Jordan is. Where am I at? The ball? Chris Paul. Yeah, he's three. Green Ross. So we have one through five. Jordan Noora Rookie. And Bradley Biel. Pippen is seven. That's Rodman. Maurice Cheeks is six. Good poll on that one, Vaughn. LeBron is nine. Wow, jeez. So we're missing eight and ten. Bertons. Isaiah Stewart. Malachi Flynn. Rodney Hood. What about, what's his face? Isaiah Thomas. So far, we have Stockton Kidd, Paul, Jordan, Payton, Cheeks, Pippen, and James. Okay. Missing eight and ten. Silver, Jake Layman. Today, it's called Will Pope. There's Malachi Flynn. Anyaka Kanu. No, Steve Nash, right? Kobe. That's what Vaughn said. No, no. Perfect wire. I'm assuming the ABA does not count in this. I don't think it does. Kira Lewis Jr. RJ Hampton. I'm sure they'll get it eventually. AI. And he Johnson. I like that actually. Kidd was number two. Yeah, we got Kidd. What about Xavier McDaniel? No. Silver, JJ Redick. Not Dr. J. Heyton Prichard, Fred Van Blee. Not Jimmy Butler. That's a good one. Geez, dude. Beasley. Tyrese Maxi, rookie. Ding, ding, ding. Vaughn, Clyde Drexler was number eight. Good call on that one. So we're down to number ten. Man. Not Mugsie Bose, Bill M. Beer. Not either of those. Joel Embiid, Silver. Green Rookie, Pokhyshevsky. James Wiseman, Instant Impact. Sadiq Bay, Rookie. Isaac Okoro. Not Garnett. Alex English. That's a good guess. Not Wilkins. Not Dominique either. Kidd was number two. Yeah, we got Kidd already. Silver, Beale. Blake Griffin, Green. Ja, there's a Jada McDaniels rookie. Jalen Smith and Anthony Edwards. My dad said, my dad just said, destroys Gonzaga. Cheeks was number six. It's a good pull on Cheeks. What's up, Camille? I kind of agree with that, Wahoos. Chuck Persons. That's a good one. Killian Hayes. The all on a hit. It'll probably give it away, I'm assuming, right? I'm gonna say a very broad hit. Okay. He played in the Southeast region. Glenn Rice? No. Isaac Okoro? No. What's up, Lewis? Someone said D-Wave. No, not D-Wave. Chris Paul was three. Jose Alfredo. He spent some time in the Southeast region, I'll say. He spent some time. Yes, Vaughn. Akeem, nice. Yes. Sadiq Bay. Yeah. He's number 10. Nice. Akeem is a good guess. Yeah, Wahoos. Wahoos and Vaughn, good one there. There's Josh Green for the Mavs. Like, obscure ones. Face. Who's ma? There's RJ Hampton. Got an evil one, Vaughn. Oh boy. That'll do it for our multi-sellers. Let's do some prism draft hobby. Two boxes of this. Get real GM cooking up here. Again, so how we'll do it is any player that is not in the NBA will be random to all at the end. If there's multiples, the first one we pull will be number one. The second one we pull will be two. And then we'll also do a random, depending on how many there are for all of the non-autoed college base cards. So any, like, like, Hyundai George and guys like that will be in here. Box one. EJ Liddell, Silver Dyson Daniels. We've got Kofi Coburn is 17 out of 99. I think he was somewhere, I want to say. Kofi Coburn. Oh, I'm pumped, dude. My dad is ecstatic right now too. Real GM. Played on Utah Jazz Summer League. So that'll go to the Jazz. That will go to the Jazz. Optan in all-time and defensive win-shares. Oh boy. Kyrie Irving, Hyper. Purple Ice, Ochai Bahi for the Jazz. Chet Holmgren. Bahi and Jimmy Butler. I think really good defenders. Rodman. Rodman be my first guess. Silver Ryan Rollins. We've got a Chris Likes for Arkansas. Chris Likes. Don't think he played anywhere. Yeah, no Summer League service. So that'll be a random to all at the end. Chris Likes. Caleb Houston. I mean, it's 37. Wow. Ryan Rollins for the Warriors to 99. Got Silver Walker-Kessler. Ja-Marant Throwback. Keegan Murray and Devin Booker. All right, so Russell's won. Yeah, what about Ben Wallace? Silver Shack. We've got Blue. Jaden Hardy. Nice one there. I believe Hardy is the Mabs if I'm not mistaken. Yes. Dallas Mavericks. Wilts 5. Malone 6. Got Jaden Ivey. Jeremy Sochan. Blue Wave. To 249. Purple Malachi Brannum to 75. Jaden Ivey. Wow, Shack's 19. Holy cow. Silver Anthony Davis. We've got Alex O'Connell. Nice one there. Creighton and Duke Legend. Think he's on the Kings, but let me double check that. Yeah, Stockton Kings. Alex O'Connell. So that'll go to the Kings. I'll go to the Kings. Theron Fox. Piper. Red. Russ. To the Clippers. To 299. E.J. Liddell. There's a Shaden Sharp. Chat Holmgren. And Clyde Drexler. Got everything so far in terms of good. I'll make sure. KG at 7. Ewing at 9. Wow. Big Men really do dominate this. About David Robinson. 8 and 10. That's all that's missing is 8 and 10. Let's go. Robinson's 10. Heck yeah, dude. Orlando Robinson Silver. Got a Bryson Williams. Sensational signatures. Red 110 out of 199. Bryson Williams was on the Clippers most recently. Signed a contract with the Clippers. So yeah, that'll go to the Clippers. David Gregsa. Elvin Hayes. Nice. Good poll, Greg. Josh Minot. Red Kyrie for the Maps. To 299. Christian Braun. Anthony Edwards. That's Wendell Moore and Clay Thompson. Silver Jerry West. We've got Silver Kellen Grady for University of Kentucky. Kellen Grady. See what Kellen Grady is. Most of these are my ears. Grand Rapids Gold. So that'll be Denver. Bear is one in Offensive Wind Shares. Oh my god. Palo Bancaro. David Roddy. Nice one there on the Mojo. 25 of 25. Jabari Smith. Chris Paul. Christie and Zach Levine. Silver Bryce McGowan. We've got a Dominic Barlow. That is 46 of 49. Dominic Barlow. Clint Capella is number two of all time in Offensive Wind Shares. Oh my god. Dominic Barlow. Going to the Spurs. Going to the Spurs. That is 46 of 49. I no longer trust statistics. That is Wendell Moore Jr. Piper. Got Jeremy Sochan. Blue Ice. That is 13 of 99. Silver Max Christie. Ochaik Bahi. Kate Cunningham. Tai Tai Washington. Deandre Jordan is seventh of all time.  Silver Patrick Ewing. Purple Ice. Jaden Ivy. Nice one there for the Pistons. 27 of 99. Congrats Detroit picking up an Ivy. That's awesome. Poison Ivy. Good Magnus one, I would say. That was a Pistons. Only one random out of those so far. Clay Thompson. Blue Wave A.J. Griffin for the Hawks to 249. Jabari Smith. Blue Ice to 99. The Rockets. Tatum. Jaylen Brown. Brandon Ingram. Stop it hurts my head. I'm hoping Mike. I'm really hoping. He needs to be as a race fan. I mean, to be honest. All right. Top 10 all time. 3 point percentage. I'm taking Kyle Korver off the board. Ray Allen's number one. I'm taking Kyle. Ray Allen or Kurt. I think you have Pistons, Greg. I'm pretty sure you do. Yeah, you've got the Pistons. Allen actually isn't. Wow. Ease, dude. What? That's wild. Korver's 10. Let's go. Curse one. Wow. Geez, dude. All right. We got two boxes, 23, 22, 23. Choice. This was 690. 690. Seth. The Better Curry. Yeah, Reggie's got to be on there. Jerry West. Bryce McAllen's. There's Fats Russell. 78 out of 88 from Maryland. Fats Russell. Undrafted. I don't think he had any time in the Summer League or anything. Yeah, that's going to be a random right there. That'll be a random. Ice. Legler. Tim Legler is a good one. Good pole there, illegal. Trey on the exclusive. Got Patrick Baldwin Jr. to 88. Steph Curry. Anthony Edwards and Jeremy Sochen. No price, no Bertons. I want to throw two out there that I think might be on there. I want to throw out Dame and I want to throw out Buddy Heald. Some of these are great names. Wait, Steph isn't on there, but Seth is. Seth is, yeah. Rob Lory. Big Shot Bob. Marge Rosen. Patrick Baldwin Jr. We've got a Ryan Rollins. 6 out of 88 going to the Warriors. Nice one there from the University of Toledo. Ryan Rollins. Dan Marley. Thunder Dan is a good one. Just double check that Rollins is a warrior. I think he is still Rollins. Yep, Ryan Rollins is a warrior. Walker Kessler exclusive. That is Lonzo to 88. We've got Mark Williams, James Arden, and Christian Coloco. All right, let's do two boxes of 22-23 elite.  It might be like Wes Matthews might be on there. Yeah, we got Corvall already. Wow, Brad Capano is 7. Oh my Lord. That one is 48. There's Trey Young on the elite deck. JJ is 19. And Spellbound Steph Curry.  What about Trevor Ariza?  John Morant. Anthony Davis. Star Stats. Good one, Pat. Honey Bennett. Really? Number one in NCAA history. That's insane. Cam Thomas. 60 out of 76. That's one there for the Nets. Hodges. Not no to Ariza, I'm assuming that means to. There's a Jason Williams. White chocolate. 22-49 on the on-card. That's sweet, dude. Nice one there for the Kings. I was hoping Ariza would be on there. Del Curry, Glen Rice. Those are good. Richard Lewis. Chris Mullen. One. Orange Cam Thomas. That's not a bad guess at all, Stephen. Joe Harris is not a bad guess. Zion Williamson. For the Pelicans. Bass. Joe Harris is number three all-time. Unreal. Great poll, Stephen. Great poll. I think Reddick was 19th. Wahoos. There's Monta Morris. Peugeot's a good one. I don't think anybody's sent Peugeot. There's a Jaden Hardy rookie. She's cute. Zeth Edie. Turgaloo Petrovich is a Sam Cassell going to the box. Couple of really cool what's it called right there? A couple of really cool veterans. That's what I'm thinking of. Thank you. Yeah, that's a couple of really cool vets. Drossin's number four. Nice. Cory Missingvon. Orange is Nicola Vucovic. There's Lebron. Power formulas for the Lakers. 269. Devin Vasell. I think illegal said Peugeot. I'm assuming no to Peugeot, right? There's Kendall Brown. Rookie.  Please, Randall. What about Clay? Anybody guess Clay? James Harden. An Astros so he may have not made the middle one, but it's still there anyway. Gotcha. That looks shrimp now. Donovan Mitchell. Yeah, Miami's good in this because they've got BAM out of bio in 2017, then all of Lebron's Game U stuff and what's it called? 12, 13, IMAX, all Pete stuff. There's Jimmy Butler, three of 99. Steve Novak. Wow, Steve Novak is ninth. Holy cow, Mike. What a pull. What a pull, Mike. Blue. Fred Van Vliet, 52 of 99. And Vase. Al Horford. Second box of elite. Hornacheck, Peugeot, Armstrong. I got you. I got you. I got you, Andrew. EJ Ladel, new breed auto for the Pelicans. Yeah, 17 and 12 is what you're looking to go for. Not Hornacheck, not Harden. Harden surprises me a little bit. John and Kominga. Dead Eye Shooters. That was a good one, dude. Dion Waiters. Sean Marion. Steph Curry. Marion's not bad. Bruce Bowen, Sean Marion. Give me Dion Waiters. Wendell Carter Jr. For the Magic. Derrick Wally Serbiacs, a good one. Jaden Hardy, 16, 51, 3-point attempts in the 90s and 2000s. There's Jonas Valentino for the Pelicans. Is it their dad, Dell? I think someone, I think we've already said no to Dell Curry. 92 to 04. Jerry Stackhouse. There's Kyrie Irving. I think he played later than 04. Here's a hint. Okay. Orange Ant-Man, college coach currently. Not Penny. Penny Hardaway. There's Trey Young. Oh yeah, we're doing trivia tonight, Forrest. Basketball trivia for the Mixer. And not Penny, okay. One of 78, Monta Morris. Nice one there for the Wizards. Sidique Bay, Malcolm Brogdon. Right now we're guessing top 10, 3-point percentage of all time for us. You missed all the baseball. There's nice. Ray Allen, Impact Impressions for the Celtics. Grats on that Boston. That's really cool. There you go, C's. Hubert Davis. Nice. Good get on that one, everybody. Good stuff. Wahoos and Mike. There you guys go. Orange, Bruce Brown. Is there still one more left on? What's up, Matthew? Number six is still out there. Okay. There's Lamello. Power formulas. Pascal Siakam. Okay, number six is still active. There's CJ McCollum. Orange. So we guessed aimed. It's not Buddy Healed. It's not, uh, it's not Doug McDermott. Is it? Please tell me it's not Doug McDermott. Joe Hingles. There's Jeremy Sochan, rookie. CJ McCollum's a good one. Active. Big time 3-point shooter. Desmond Bain. There's a Draymond Green. For the Warriors. Joe Harris was number three, actually, Matthew. Kevin Hurray. There's Kauai Leonard. Went to Duke, Kairi. It's not Kairi. Well, it could be Kairi. Orange, Power formulas. Steph Curry. There you go. Blue, Nicola Jokic. Is 77 of 99 for the Nuggets. The Joker. Drew Holiday is 34 of 49 for the Bucks. Space, space. Very nice. Let's do 22-23 origins. 22-23 origins. Got two boxes of this now. Not Tatum, right? Is Jake Laravia four of 10? Nice one there. Four of 10 for the Grizzlies. Ooh, there it is. That's got to be it, John. It's got to be Luke Kennard. Yeah, there you go. Good pull, John. Kennedy Chandler, rookie. Mellow ball. Walker Kessler, red rookie. And Chris Middleton to 99. We've got cool one here. Russell Westbrook. 34 of 49. That's got to be game used, right? Yeah, game worn as a member of the Thunder. Kennedy Chandler as well on the rookie auto. Nice one there. On card for the Grizz. On to the second origins. It's 185th all the time. For it's 186th on that one. Wow. Wow, wow, wow. This is fun, dude. This is awesome. Yeah, that's how it came about. Team origins, Zion for the Pelicans. Lake Wesley. Jabari Smith, rookie. And A.J. Griffin, 50 out of 76. Or 75, excuse me. Nice one here. It's going to be A. Keegan Murray. Jumbo Jersey. That is 13 out of 49 for the Kings. I was going to say, even got Wahoo's over to YouTube. That's how you know. Gallant Terry, 39 of 49. For baseball. Nice one there for the Bulls. Best steel percentage of all. It's got to be Henderson. It's got to be, right? It's got to be rookie. Now look at Wahoo's over here. I know, right? With trivia on the titles, Radney. Honestly, man. All right, let's do 21. Two bucks at 21, 22. Select H2. Yes, sir. David Big East is back, baby. Let's see what's up. That's cool. That's really cool, actually. That's cool to hear. Geez, no. Oh my God. Sean T. Zion. There's a Cade Cunningham on the Concourse. Disco. Nice one there. There's Silver Scotty Barnes. Good pack there. Such a hard instead. It's Byron Buxton. Oh, God. Cade rookie. Byron Buxton. Anthony Edwards. Ray Jean Rondo. That is Silver Andrew Wiggins. Jaylinger, we were doing baseball earlier to Forrest. There's Donald Banton. McCall Bridges. We talk tennis. There is Basely on the Disco. And Kemba Walker. On to the second. Select H2. I know that got Kyle's ears perked up right there. It's not Billy Hamilton. Is it Forrest? Is it Byron Buxton? That'd be cool, David, if Creighton wins. Franz Wagner, rookie. Cade, Victor Oladipo. Disco. And Silver Yannis Concourse. James Luthor. Silver Malcolm Brogdon on the court side. And Kyrie. Blue, Premier Level 2 of 25. Only at 87 attempts. Man, all right. So best steal per side of him all the time. Her attempts. That's Quentin Grimes. Disco. Kara Slivert. Carlos Beltran. Komingo Rookie. That is Boyan Bogdanovich. Disco. And Kwai. Hold on a second again, guys. She's still acting. It's Carlos Beltran, I guess? That's wild. Well, early in his career, he was fast. Yeah, true. True. Kenny Lofton. Jeremy Ran. Kenny Lofton's actually a pretty good guess too. There is a mosaic fast break next. You played the show in 21, obviously, right? Yeah. Remember that Kenny Lofton card? It was like the first inning glosses? Yeah, yeah. That thing was nasty. I, like, grinded to get that card on my team, dude. Carlos Beltran.  That's wild. That is a wild stat for us. Wild stat. KD. Herbert Jones. James Springer. Cost ceiling. Wow. Silver, Chris Paul. Norman Powell, Disco. Bones, Highland, debut. Basin, base. Pablo Sanchez. Pablo Sanchez probably would have all the best stats in MLB history. There's a Blue Heaven Mowgli. Yep, exactly. 55 of 85. Nice on the debut for the Caps. And Bede, Chris DeWerse. Shook me to my core. Yeah, that is, that's a name you would not think of. Forrest, if you're feeling frisky, give us another trivia question. Cam Thomas. Disco. That's got to be a Josh Giddy variation. Nice one there. Josh Giddy. Daeron Sharp. Jalen Green rookie. Jalen Suggs. Click the paint titles. Pink is Dwight Howard. Nice one there for the Lakers, 18 of 20. Trey Mann. Cade Cunningham. I'll never forget last year when I like right when I first started. In a full case of contenders, Forrest pulled a one of one to Marcus Lawrence, entitled the video Lawrence one of one. That was T-Law this year. That was my favorite one of all time. And he was like, he's like, I'm not wrong. I'm not wrong. Which is true, you're not wrong, Forrest. That was funny. Purple. Jalen Brown. Nice one there for the Celtics. 22 of 50. Shengun. Jalen Green. Quick one, but who do you think has played the most minutes in the NBA this season? There's Cade Cunningham. Disco. For the Pistons. Ron Mitchell. Another Cade. There's Trey Mann Green. Got a Louis Skola for the Pacers. That won a name there, dude. Vaughn. I hope you were listening to that one. Louis Skola. Vaughn should have been able to. There's Scotty Barnes, James Bookknight, Davion Mitchell. Okay, so you said that on your, you said it was on your team's red. I'm trying to think of who, I know who Vaughn's team is. There's Terry Rosier. Blue is John Wall. 7 out of 85 for the Rockets. Cam Thomas. Corey Kispert. Yeah, he was a Pacer after, I think after the Rockets. That he had to stop there and then he went to Brooklyn. Someone already said the team. There's Corey Kispert. Disco. Remo Jones. Bradley Beal. Disco. Roy Hachimara. Austin Reaves. Sondra. Herbert Jones. Then a third. Wow. Evan Mobley. Bassie. Aaron Wiggins. Let's do, we'll do Mosaic hobby next. One box, 21-22 Mosaic hobby. I'm going to say Randall. Randall. Randall's a good guess. I think it is Randall, right? Because someone said the Knicks earlier. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't surprise me. I didn't surprise me at all. Yeah, good poll on that one, Pat. So I was going to say, I knew, I knew Wahoos was a Knicks fan, so I was trying to narrow down Knicks, but I didn't realize it was Randall, but that's a good guess. Yeah, true. It's got to be somebody who played under Thibodove. Jaylen Green. National Pride. Sugs. Jordan Poole. Clay Red. Yeah, I'll tell you, Murray. Rudy Gobert. Nice one there. Raymond Campain. I feel like he's always out there though. I feel like, I legitimately feel like Randall is always out there. And I would have said it probably would have been Brunson if he wasn't hurt like for a while. Kate National Pride. Levine, Vooch, and DeMar all on top. Geez, dude. Auto is Dave Bing. Nice one there for the Pistons. Dave Bing. We'll throw back hit there. Silvered Marcus Cousins. Luca Red. Paul George. Swagger, Lamello. Bace. Shengun. Jaylen Green, debut. Will Barton. Red, Josh Hart. That's Shay Gilgis Alexander. Yeah, Bridge's second would make sense. You have Dave Bing's rookie card PSA 9. That's sick, Greg. Love it, dude. Kate, rookie. Silver, Kobe White. Red, Campain. Oh, the only two that have played all their eligible games. That's wild. Scotty Barnes, rookie. Vaughn Moran, Pitch, if ya. Disco, Klaxon. Joshua Primo, Red. Josh Giddy. John Morant. Nice one there. Okay, top 10 all-time in triple doubles. Russ. And I'd say Russ and Big O for sure. Clay Thompson. Got a pink. Alec Berks. 29 of 49. Pismac BMO says me. Let's go Pismac. Yolkich. Okay, yes, yes, yes. So that's yes to Russ Magic and Big O. Yolkich. Yeah, Will. There's Paul George. IQ, Red. There's John Morant. L.A. Stephen Adams. Harrison Dorns. Bronze, five. Okay. Will's seven. Silver, Donovan Mitchell. Nice. Good call, Pat. Trey Mann. That is 34 out of 99. It's green. For the Thunder. Lucas, 10. Wow. Jeez, dude. JT Thor. It's only missing eight. Red, Donovan Mitchell. Frans. It's Montage, Larry Bird. So let me throw a curveball here. I'm gonna say Trey Mann. He's known to get triple doubles that aren't even like, what's it called? Triple doubles that aren't even points. Aaron Wiggins, Bones, Highland. Jeremiah Robinson. Silver, Evan Mobley. Jimmy Butler. Tyrese Halliburton. There's a Josh Giddy. Strayfire. Ace and base. Harden's a good one, yeah. Harden, good call, good call. All right, we've got 21-22 Mosaic choice. Good luck, everybody. Then we're into some of the big boys. Me, go with what? I'm up with a random stat. A random stat. So what you're saying? Got Cam Thomas. And Io Desunemou. I don't think I did. I think I might have met the curveball was Trey Mann Green. We got a black gold in there. Silver is Uda Watanabe. Top 10 scourge moments of all time. Marcus Smart. Nice one here. It's gonna be a rookie Cam Thomas. Going to the Nets. Congrats on that Brooklyn. Quality start leader from 2022. Leader. All right, we've got a Tim Hardaway. That is 20 of 88. We've got Dame Lillard. And then we've got Hornets on the black gold is James Bookneye on the rookie. Five of eight. That is Jersey numbered. Going to the Hornets. Congrats on that. Charlotte, spaghetti policy legend. Is it Zach Gallin? It's actually a very good guess. I'm going to be very impressed if that's it. All right, 21-22. Prism hobby, everybody. Christian Javier. Rikidi. Forrest Winnipeak of Yankee. That's very true, Wahoos. That's very true. Gallin's a really good guess. I like that. All right, Prism. Gallin's 16th. Wow. I guess the DVA. Yeah. Fromber Valdez. That's a good one. Yeah. What defines a quality start? Is it X amount of innings? Seven or six or seven innings without giving up more than like two runs, I think. Clan of hands a good one. He kind of blew up towards the half. Fromber. Wow. Good cat. Good one on that Travis. There's Silver Kelly Olin. Shane because he asked me. There's Daniel Gafford, 25 of 75. That's what I thought. Yeah, six innings with less than three runs. Yeah. Usman Karuba, Moses Moody, and Kenyan Martin Jr. Six innings less than three runs. Yeah. I am blacked in the baseball home today. Silver and Nunnaby. There's Purple Ice, OG Nunnaby. Nice one there. That is 75 out of 149. Zero. There's a Cade-based Rookie. And Paul Pierce. Manoa's fourth. Yeah, Manoa, that's good, good guess on that one too, Wahoos. Manoa's top five. That was an Austin Reeves Rookie who's getting MVP chance. Kendrick Nunn, Red Wave. There's a Blue Nausee Reed. Nice one there. 178 out of 199. Dame, Isaiah Todd, and Davion Mitchell. MVP chance in multiple games now. Silver, Santi Aldama. For the Gris, we've got Juan Toscano-Anderson Hyper Rookie. The Warriors still. Isaiah Jackson. I'd have to imagine, yeah. Colin Sexton on the Pulsar, one per box. Thomas Bryant, Blue Ice, I believe through 125. Yep, for the Wizards. Lizardo. Lizardo, Jesus. Greg Brown, Shariah Cooper. Frombert, one. You Darbysh, wow. I was gonna guess.  I was gonna say him. Silver, Stefan Marbury. Desmond Bain on the Hyper. Manoa, three at 25. You said Cole was mine. Cam Thomas Rookie. Jeez, dude. What about Cease? Cease up there? Does he have really high strike? Hyper Wide Screen is Damian Lillard. Yeah, and Alcantra. Ooh, Redemption is Zion Williamson. Flashback signatures. Go into the Pelicans. Let's go New Orleans. That's gonna be Greg M. Greg, congrats, buddy.  Let's go, Greg. Congrats, man. Wow, Martín Perez. That's insane. Scotty Barnes Rookie. Ray Allen. Let's go, Greg. That's like one of the throwback looks to like the 2012s. They're really nice. Like Berks to 299. Dre, we may have our second auto in here now. We'll go a little bit late. I do apologize, guys. John Collins, Silver. Fearless, Zion. Aaron Bainz for the Raptors. Raptors legend, Aaron Bainz. Dearon Sharp. Joshua Prima. I mean, he was lucky to accomplish one of those things in a start. Six innings or less than three runs, right? Silver Deontay Murray, Silver Donovan Mitchell, charismatic. He couldn't get one thing, I mean. Oh, Red Sox bit driving quality start. Kaminga, Hachimura and Jared Butler. There's no sport. Is there any sports on right now? Does everybody know? Xavier Tillman, Red Wave. Most money all time at the box office. Nasri. That's a good question, Mike. I mean, Humphrey Bogart, he's got to be in there. I was going to say Swartz and Ager, yeah. Yep. Cruz. Bill Russell, Red Wave. Nice one there. Robert Downey Jr. Montemores. Rich Red Sox pitcher had the most quality starts. Bonus would be the amount. Man. Caprio Stallone. Hockey's on. I was going to say Pavetta. It's mine looking for the hockey real quick when you go to the track. Yeah. Did Pavetta just? Just late in sports cards. We're doing all kinds of stuff here, AJ. Good last year too. I thought he did all that. All right, we've got 17-18 prism now. 17-18 prism. Nicky Smooches with 12. Yeah, I have to imagine it's Pavetta. I was going to say, yeah. I see something big, man. Tatum one-on-one auto here. Pavetta has been really good for you guys. He has done, yeah. Where's he from? He was trash on the Phillies. James Johnson. There's nice. Speaking of Lucanard. Congrats on that one. Detroit. That's solid. What was he? What's up? What was he all time? Fifth or sixth, I think? Unreal, dude. Silver Thomas Bryant. And we've got an Orange, Emon Shumpert for the Cabs. Three of 49. Nice shump. Cartoons count Tom Hanks. Oh, definitely. Toy Story. Oh, yeah.  Decafrio. OG and Notabee. No Leo on there, actually. Really? Someone say that. Yeah. Drum and Hyper JR Smith. Red Wave, Rudy Gaye. D-Wade. Derek White. That's a spur. Okay, which picture generated by far highest swing per... Highest percentage swings outside the strike zone last season. Also pitches for Brian Baves. Safari Planet. That's illegal fantasy team, man. Caleb Swann again. Reston Pease, man. Tony Parker. Rudy Gobert for the Jazz. Nice. Red Wave, Laurie Markinen. Rookie for the Bulls. Congrats on that one, Chicago. Edmund Sumner. Samuel L. Jackson, number one. Does anybody know what channel the hockey's on? Is it? No, you're good. You're good. Is it? I'm trying to think where it would be. Got a Blue Ice coming up, everybody. Siakum. Thought of a Mitchell Rookie. Nice one there. Is it... Is he a reliever? Illegal? Show of Silver Patty Mills. Blue Ice, Lucanard again. 99 of 99. There you go, Detroit. Lucanard all over the place here. Very nice. Virginia Jordan, Porzingis, a bonus. ESPN, if national. I'm not checking that, really. Thanks, sir. Sterling Brown. Larry Byrd. Kyrie Irving. There's a Nicola Vucovic on the fundamentals for the Magic. Not going to get either game.  Toronto Pitcher. Gosmin. Barrios. I mean, not Barrios. Kukuchi? No. What's the name for Kukuchi? Colin, we've got Dwayne Bacon. Nice one there. Florida State Legend going to the Hornets. Silver Jeremy Grant. Jonathan Isaac, Emergent. That makes sense. T. Ferg, T.J. Leaf, and Trevion Grant. I mean, you've seen his splitter and change up, right? Magic Legend. True Aaron. Magic Legend. Dwayne Bacon. Ooh, we got a Mojo. We got a Mojo to 25. Oh, maybe give us somebody big. Miles Turner. Isaiah Thomas. We've got a Jawan Evans. That is 22 of 25. Wrong rookie, unfortunately, for the Clippers. Nice one there. Jawan Evans. Josh Hart-Rookie. Timothy Mosgoff. Hyper. Red Wave. Eric Gordon for the Rockets. David Fisdale. I was going to say Duran, or Duran, whatever. Oh, nudge, wins. Yeah. Classez was insane. Yeah, it makes sense. I mean, when you're throwing a 102 cutters and then Slyer's Egg, drop three feet, makes sense. Harrow White. Kobe. Blue. Larry Nance. Jeez, man. 17 out of 199 for the Lakers. Kyle Kuzma Rookie. Steve Clifford and Manu. That guy had to pitch only half the time in the zone. That's wild. Have a go on, Patsman. Thanks for hanging out, doing some trivia, man. That was fun. Jordan Bell. That is crazy. Duran Foxy Merchant Rookie. Really? Met's Optioning. Beatty to AAA. Luke Canard. Hyper, man. A lot of Luke Canard in this one. Red Wave, Steven Adams. Pat Bev, Felton, and Patty Mills. They listen. What's up? They listen. Who did? They put Canard in there. I know.  Which ain't bad, honestly. He's a stud, still. Zach Collins. He's actually quietly having a good year for the Spurs. So we're going to sleeve Zach Collins. Ersanelio Silva. Miles Turner. Nice. Blue, Jared Allen. It's a 199. There you go, Brooklyn. That's awesome. Congrats on that. Koiberg, Thomas Bryant, and DeMonte Davis. That's a Wahoos question right there. It's either Hulk Hogan or Randy Savage, probably. Right? Imagine, probably. Undertaker. It's a good one, too. Sina, too. Franklin O'Kina. Silver Deontah Davis. Purple, Kyle Corver. Nature Boy. 38 to 75 for the cabs. Nice one there. That's Ryan Anderson. Wesley Johnson. Billy Donovan. 1718 Select. Sina. Sina, let's go, baby. Nice, Sam. 1718 Select. I'm singing too old school. Sinclair Sam. Come on, baby. See a Tatum. See a Mitchell. Swipe us. See somebody here. Good luck. Caleb Swanigan. John Collins, rookie. It's going to be a, a lot of it. 54 out of 99 on the throwback jersey for the Nets. Right now there's only three orders in queue, so there's still room if you guys want personal. It's Chris Dunn. Still room. I, trust me, I will not. You could not pay me. That's my man. Kyrie has a Celtic. Silver Tony Snell. Alpharico Minu. Lanzo Ball, rookie. Russ, court side. Daniel Tice, rookie. Scope is Thomas Bryant. Nice one there, not numbered for the Lakers. Silver John Lure. Chris Middleton and a Reggie Jackson as well. Yannis Eric Gordon. Orange, Josh Richardson, 40 of 75. Josh Hart rookie and Jay Crowder. Vince Carter is a king. Yish. Ricky Rubio. Gordon Hayward on the red. 112 out of 135. Nice one there. Isaiah Thomas as a calf. The Marcus Cousins as a pelican. Man, some wild times here. Jason Tatum. Holy cow, man. 34 of 99, man. The purple. These, dude. Insane, dude. T.J. Leaf and Kawhi Leonard. Monster Tatum right there. Monster Tatum. Sterling Brown, Derek White. Blue, Drew Holliday. That is 92 out of 2.99 as a pelican. Harry Giles. Yeah, oh yeah. Silver Deer and Fox. Nice one there. There's Carl Anthony Towns' phenomenon. Russ Westbrook and Zach Collins. There he is. Jason Tatum. Let's go, dude. A 99 on the Jersey Auto. Rookie at Jersey Auto, I should say. Galeo Kitch. Tricolor, Ersona Ilyasova for the Hawks. So I need that card. Shabazz and Terence Ross. Tyler Johnson. CJ Miles and Josh Richardson. Two packs to go here. We've still got NT and IMAC as well. Red, Victor Oladipo. Whoops. It's a 199. Leak Monk and Jason Tatum. Rookie. Oh, it's so cool, dude. One more time. I mean, that is just, that's gorgeous. Tatum, baby. Let's go, man. Bogdan Bogdanovich. Hawks legend, Jared Bayless. We've got nice to 199. Karis Levert. In-flight signature, second year. Everyone, yeah, everybody liked the stream to unlock the next question from Vaughn, Josh Jackson. And that's nasty. All right, 21-22 NT hobby. We still have these two, too, dude. These are monster boxes. Yes, sir. Everybody liked the stream on YouTube or Twitch if you are enjoying it. And you will unlock the next question from Vaughn. The next trivia question will be unlocked. Gotta reach a certain level, I guess. Like start decreasing. That's awesome, Kevin. I appreciate that, man. Yeah, it is. A fantastic card right there, dude. Fantastic card. We've got Trey Young. That is 35 of 99 for the Hawks. Nice one here, actually. First of all, that's empty. We're going to have a James Wiseman. That's optic. 2020-21 optic basketball printing plate for the Warriors. Nice one there. It's a rated rookie, which is cool. 22 out of 99. Charles Barkley for the Rockets. Game used Barkley. Yes, that is. We've got four out of 99. Is a Ja-Maran. This is going to be Game used Ja for the Grizzlies. Where is that going to go? One second here, everybody. Okay. That's going to be number five, too. Let's go to the Nets. This is going to... Who's got them? Christopher L. in the Nets. How about timeless talent signatures? Emerald Jason Kidd. Nice one there. Another guy we're talking about all night as well. Number to five. You can mag this and you can mag the next one. Congrats on that, Jay Kidd. Love it. To the Nets. Let's go into the Nets. This is nasty, too. It's going to be a true RPA. 59 out of 99. It's Davey on Mitchell. Nice one there for the Kings. Defensive weapon. Part of those. That really good Sacramento Kings team. Unreal. Oh, let's go. We're getting a replay. I could take a replay all day long. We're watching a replay of the Bruins and Lightning now. Nice true RPA. Got a Parents' Man. 79 out of 99. For the Clippers. That is Game worn. Parents' Man. T-Man. We've got the Biography materials. That is 83 out of 99. Rudy Gay. Only three total goals. Wow. 51 out of 99. We've got a Santee Aldama. We've got 51 out of 99. That's a Gibraltarosity. Nice Santee Aldama. And then we've also got the Goofy Garuber. 99 out of 99. Usman Garuba. That's a Forex. I'll give Forex credit on that. I get Forex credit on that. One more like. One more like. One more like. And the next question is unlocked. Empty. All right. You guys ready for 12.13 IMAC? I know I am. Let's pull like a Colby out of this or something, man. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Here we go. Satellite radio. I don't think you got that one. Boom, boom, pow. It's that time of the night. I told you. It's that time. Empty. Things are getting a little, a little too nighty. A little loopy. 42. Get them Vaughn. Let's go. Got Colby. Colby. Colby. Colby. And let me guess. Colby. They're the anthology packs. Mmm. Only franchise to never lose 60 plus games in a season. Oh man. I feel like it's the Pacers. He's in a row for a good breaker. Got a George Micken. That's eight out of 99. This is actually pretty nasty. It's actually really nasty. This is going to the Thunder. How about 21 of 25? That is going to be a Jeremy Lamb on the RPA. Ice one there. Yukon Legend. You can mag this one. And you can mag the next one. Next one's nasty. Jeremy Lamb. Yukon Legend right there. Two-colored RPA. This one's disgusting. 47 out of 100. Going to the Clippers. It's going to be Grant Hill. Hill on the three-colored patch auto. That's game worn as well. I'm assuming this is going to go random. Yeah. This will be a random. It's kind of sick though. We've got a... That's gross. Patrick Ewing. Carl Malone. David Robinson. And a... Shaq. That's nasty. So this will be a random to those four teams at the end. 40 out of 50. You can mag this next one. This next one's disgusting. Yes, you do. You do, Lewis. This next one's... Dude, just look at this patch. Three of four. Look at that thing, dude. Tyson Chandler. That's awesome, man. Three of four. Game worn. Game worn, Tyson Chandler. For the next.  That is an absolutely crazy patch. And then we've got 22 of 99. Nando DeColo. Four of the Spurs on the rookie auto. Empty, empty. I'll move this to the middle now. All right. We're going to do a couple of randoms here, guys. So we're going to random off the Chris Likes and the Fats Russell, as well as all of the non-autographed college cards. And then we have a four-way random between the next jazz, Spurs, and Magic to the patch. Rockets, legend, Tyson Chandler. All right. So the way... Have you done a random like this with me? So basically, the way this is going to work is... So the way the college one's going to work is I'll do the random, say it's eight times, random it eight times. The top team will get this one. The second team will get this one. And then the third team, just put on the sales sheet, be like, Magic get all non-autographed college cards. So it's numbered stuff, inserts, just so we don't have to do a random for all of them. You know what I mean? All right. Let me get these copied over. All right, guys, going to start with a random for the college cards. All 28 teams, the top team will receive the Chris Likes, as it was the first one pulled. The second team will receive the Fats Russell. And the third team will receive all of the non-autographed college cards. So we're going to roll the dice. We're going to go eight times. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, and eight. So the trailblazers will get the Chris Likes. The mix will get Fats Russell. And then the Hawks will get all non-autographed college cards. So that is Blazers, Knicks, and Hawks. You can see right there eight times. And then we've also got the random for the Patch, which is Patrick Ewing with the Knicks, Carl Malone with the Jazz, David Robinson with the Spurs, and Shaq with the Magic. Roll the dice. Good luck, guys. Five times to all of these teams. One, two, three, four, and five. Going to the Knicks. Knicks picking up the Quad. Game used, Jersey of the Big Men. All right, let's do a quick recap, everybody. I'd honestly say I think it's Tray Young. That would not shock me. All right, so we've got a James Wiseman, Keegan Murray, Russell Westbrook, Mirza Toledovich, Rudy Gay, Terence Mann, John Morant, Charles Barkley, and the Quad. Autos. We've got Kellen Grady, Alex O'Connell, Bryson Williams, Jaden Hardy, Kofi Coburn, Ryan Rollins, Dominic Barlow, EJ Liddell, Ray Allen, Sam Cassell, Jason Williams, Kennedy Chandler, Dallin Terry, Louis Scola, Dave Bing, Cam Thomas, Aaron Baines, Luke Canard, Dwayne Bacon, Karis Levert, Usman Garuba, Santial Dhamma, Nando DeColo, Magged Cards. We had a, that's rough, dude. That's a rough stat right there. All right, so we've got Jason Kidd, Timeless, Talon Signatures, Emerald to five. For the Nets, we had a Jeremy Lam, RPA, 21 of 25 for the Thunder, and he was part of like a draft day trade. He was actually traded for James Hardin, I believe. We've got a Zion Flashback Signatures going to the Pelicans. Oh wow, 50 likes for a bonus question from Vaughn now. You guys know what to do. We had this disgusting Tyson Chandler three of four game use patch for the Nicks. Awesome, dude. Absolutely awesome. Jaden Ivy, Purple Ice, 22 of 99 going to the Pistons. We had a Grant Hill, 47 out of 103 colored patch auto for the Clippers, True RPA, Davion Mitchell, 59 of 99, and Jason Tatum. Yes, thank you, Bismac. Jason Tatum, Purple, Rookie Jersey Auto, 34 of 99 for the Celtics. That'll do it for the break, guys. Thanks again for the fill. Next up is personal.


It's another fry yay, and I think we're ready to go. How about you sister? Yes, I'm ready. Let me start off Welcome. Thanks everyone. I'm so glad that you have been able to join us today on this fry yay fundraising academy cause selling education ask and answer For those of you that are raving fans, and this is not your first show You know that we reserve one day a week this day friday as the Dedicated episode where julia and i or another thought leader guest Joins us to answer questions that have come in from you our viewers. So again thrilled to have the support Of fundraising academy that continues these conversations each and every week on the friday or fry yay as we also lovingly refer to today We are extremely proud of our partnership with these companies These presenting sponsors have been with us by our side and with you and by your side Each and every day most of them for the last two years as we continue to navigate forward and um We are so just honored to have their investment in the sector as well as these episodes julia patrick ceo of the american nonprofit academy joins me i'm charit ransom your nonprofit nerd ceo of the raven group and again We have with us today a large amount of questions We were just talking in our chitty chat chat. So for those of you that joined us early You heard this we were talking about how The conversations continue to shift and change as we all continue to shift and change forward in this forward motion Still not quite sure what this year brings because there's a couple more weeks left In this year before we welcome the new year. Many of us were excited and eager to welcome this new year, although There wasn't a lot of change. So looking into 22 as we move forward Um, I'm excited julia to see what our questions are because you and I have seen The trajectory of these questions changed throughout the years You know, we really haven't and I was reminded earlier We had our guest even shattuck. He really is a an amazing supporter Of uh of you and I jarrett individually collectively the show really interesting human being And he made the comment that you know We kind of give ourselves in the nonprofit sector Some false deadlines and we tend to kind of pull back or just let go like because we're so exhausted And he was talking about really December and how a lot of times we're like giving to say, okay Poof, and then we just coast through we're we're not without Our stress because we want to meet our our numbers and all that but he had some really interesting things to say about You know really staying in the saddle till that end of the month And so if you have a chance to go back and learn from his wisdom I would really recommend that that episode Was really very cool. Yes, even uh is with bloom ring and one of our great supporters of the the show Uh, we referred to his book quite a bit in that episode this week And so it's uh nonprofits are sorry robots make bad fundraisers And he has an entire chapter on giving Tuesday, which of course we just finished up As a national philanthropic day of giving so that was november the 30th It will be again next year in 22 So make sure that you read his book if you have it yet so that you can prepare for that national day of giving Yeah, it's it's just really been fascinating. Well, let's get into It sister james from city withheld. You know how I like those withheld Okay, as our nonprofit is growing our ceo wants to establish an mod manager of the day Program, this would be assigned on weekend so that even though our site is closed We would have a responsible person designated My issue is that I don't feel confident about this responsibility and i'm not being paid extra for it either Oh Isn't this interesting This is interesting and i've never heard of a manager of the day process Um, and so this would be assigned on weekend So i'm assuming that's your saturday and sunday manager of the day Not assigned on the weekend for the week coming um You know First off again, I I like to shoot from the hip But I also joke and say these hips have over 20 years of nonprofit experience Jelly beans and some chocolate and you know, there's a lot but I do like to Um, whenever you are uncertain of your responsibilities I would highly recommend james that you go to your ceo And any of these other manager of the day Individuals maybe this is your leadership team your executive team And simply ask for the protocols. What is expected? Um, what is kind of that f a q so we know how to Manage situations in a consistent way So I really think having that consistency Depending on who's serving as that manager of the day depending on the weekend So I would say, you know, use this as an opportunity to inquire with your ceo How this should be run and again just kind of some of those protocols and procedures so that everyone's doing it similarly right You know an mod program really Is as far as I know really comes out of hospitality Where you have open areas you know, you have open Facilities 24 7 and so but you can't you need to shift your your your teams so I would say absolutely you need to understand what it is That you're going to be possibly called to do what would be the protocols I mean, I know of several organizations that do this And they actually have a phone That goes to that mod so that if a call comes through And it you know You get a message or whatever and it can say call this number There's somebody attached to that And it's on that weekend you wouldn't You would be asked to stay in your community, you know, you couldn't travel even if you traveled Outside the city and you should be within a certain Radius of your campus and I would think this would be something that would be more for An organization that serves The public in a way like human services You know things of that nature where there really is you know life or death kind of issues, right? a museum You know sure if they're open on the weekends, I can see if it's a cultural institution, but Yeah, the responsibility issue is something to address Because a manager of the day is going to chances are going to get They're going to have to answer some tough questions Now what about this not being paid extra? What is your thought? And opinion there Julia Well, I would love to see what the job description is so to speak or the areas of responsibility And then I would like to know what is you know the recompense for that Is it extra time off? Is it you know coming in late for the following week every day? I mean, I don't know, but I think there should be something because This is generally I would see it seems to me that This would not have come up if there weren't issues that had come up for this organization on the weekends, right? Right, right. So this isn't just going to be like hanging out. This is probably going to involve some actual service or work It sounds like it and I I hate to recommend the compensation time because chances are and again We were talking in our chitty chat chat. Everyone is so busy. Everyone is you know, their plates are overflowing So chances of James actually taking advantage of some of those hours off are coming in late I think are slim to none considering our sector So I I would probably Vote towards the compensation, right? Perhaps this is a bonus perhaps again I'm not sure, but I'm assuming that the time off is going to be slim Yeah, and I but I think there needs to be some discussion of it And I think for somebody to say I don't feel confident about the responsibility. That's a red flag I mean that needs to get addressed. That's a big deal Because that mod that manager of the day, they are the ones making decisions. So wow, james. Good luck and I'm hoping that this uh works for you. I'm a little nervous for you to be honest Yes, okay name withheld san francisco Are you familiar with a policy that forbids married couples to work together in the same organization? I'm secretly dating a co-worker from a different department and we are about to get engaged. Well, congratulations Will this impact our jobs? You know, we had a question similar to this months ago Jared, but it was about board members. Do you remember that? Yeah interesting so You know, I think it depends on the organization. There is um Occasions or there are occasions when this is acceptable. There are occasions when they're not I know of an organization where uh, the husband and wife They both are on payroll and they both are on the executive team And um, I also know organizations that do not allow You know this To happen and it is in their written policy. So name withheld san francisco look in your employee handbook first and foremost Take a look there and see what is um already written out and stated if you're secretly dating this person and You're talking about getting engaged I think this is something you probably should have looked into prior Yeah Again, go to that employee handbook and see what it says about inter office dating and relationships Yeah, absolutely. And I would say that you need to really understand this because Um, I know we had somebody for I think from your part-time controller who mentioned this maybe Like more than a year ago about not having relation ships with People in the accounting departments that that was kind of like a red flag for fraud and mismanagement And so that there were a lot of organizations just right out the the gate said you cannot have a relationship And we're talking, you know sibling parent marriage. I mean, you know, pretty extensive You cannot be related to somebody in the accounting department. So yeah, wow Well, congratulations, but that is a little dicey if you don't mind me saying Maybe start looking for another job. Yeah, I'm thinking thinking you better think this out Josh and Boise Idaho I'm in charge of reestablishing our donor database I have been doing a lot of research and I'm wondering if I should have an nda Agreement executed for these folks who have access to our valuable database. This is a good question Do you have any thoughts on this? Yes, okay, good Yes, I mean I have an nda that you can download josh from my website the ravengroup.com It's one of my free resources because of this as well as committee involvement so Especially within the fundraising and or development department. There is a lot of private information that is often shared And you need to make sure that those individuals that have access to this information Again, be it, you know, they are entering data into the donor database Perhaps they are helping you pull reports or they are, you know, really knowledgeable and again have access to this data committee members may also have access to the data data and become knowledgeable of their peers And uh, really, you know, their assets, they're giving their capacity to give So I do like to have a non-disclosure agreement signed annually by these individuals Keep that on file And again, you know, you can google non-disclosure agreement I did that and I created one for anyone to use again You can download it on my website under the resources tab, but the ravengroup.com It's all yours josh. So use it, please So this is really interesting. You're saying every year It should be updated And and this would be employees and volunteers or just anyone who is working in that with that data So for me, my recommendation is any volunteers that are Um Privy to accessing that data, right? So employees I tend to find are covered under that employee handbook and the access to sensitive information So that's why I'm saying really for the volunteers. So board members committee members Interns or volunteers that are coming in to help you within these administrative roles And I do think annually because it reminds them of this privacy matter And it you know again reengages their commitment to take this in a very confidential confident way Jared, I think that's great. I appreciate you extending the offer to our viewers to be able to get that document I mean that could save somebody a lot of time and travel to get it going and um, I like this practice I I can kind of see this needs to be one of those things that's calendarized that it occurs You know the last two weeks of every every december in preparation for the new year or or whatever But I'm I'm also intrigued that you added board members to that because definitely board members are going to be Seeing data, but they're also going to probably be discussing it with the development team or goals I mean there are a lot of Ways that that information would be shared and I like that you're saying that to remind everyone Wow. Yeah. Good job. Josh. I love that you're thinking about this and not reacting to a problem Yes proactive proactive. It's super good Okay, um, we got another question that's come in and this question comes to us from st. Louis from char Our nonprofit has a few board positions open and I'm thinking of putting my name in for consideration Is this a conflict or something that is ever actually done In the nonprofit sector. I'm assuming this person means they work for the organization I'm assuming that too unless they're a volunteer So not knowing your position char If you are an employee and I paid staff or contractor That is a conflict of interest and I do not think that that is Legal, I would double check. I do know that on occasions Perhaps a board member has been retained or hired for a service product or the like in which case they have to Of course Recuse themselves from any voting that might happen to be a conflict in their current state and role If you're a volunteer that might be different and so this might be a great opportunity I highly recommend that board members actually participate on a committee prior to becoming a board member I think that is great practice It gives the organization an opportunity to get to know you as a volunteer It gives the volunteer an opportunity to get to know the organization and to see how it's run So sharn again, not quite understanding your role your current role within the organization I would say no if you are a current employee or a contract employee Or vendor if you are a volunteer Absolutely, I would highly recommend that you talk to someone from the governance committee Hopefully the organization and the the you know board has that committee in place That is where the board development usually Lies and again, you can ask any of those questions to to that committee I agree. I think that You know, I love what you said and that is about the training aspect Of serving on a committee because a lot of times it sounds super glamorous and fun And you don't know really what you're getting into By going on to a board and by doing committee work It lets everybody understand, you know, what the cadence of the organization is And what they need and how to work together or not So I agree with you. I think that um, it just sounds to me from the the tone and tenor of that Question that they're an employee and so that's just not gonna fly Yeah, no, that's not gonna work, but doesn't mean you can't serve on a committee Or in a volunteer capacity Although we have had some discussions in the past about Where do you overlap that paid employee with volunteer? And so sometimes that can get a little gray, right? And so you kind of need to refine that a little bit, but super interesting I hope that works out. We need board members serving our 1.8 million nonprofits Yes, we do.  This has been like a juicy Friday Salt Lake City, Utah There is a nonprofit in our region different state that has asked me to consult with them They like the programming work that I have created for the nonprofit I work for Is this a conflict problem or issue? Yeah, this is very interesting name withheld and and you're right. It's been a juicy Friday So we have addressed this on a couple of occasions in different ways, but really about collaboration Thought partners and really being open to sharing some of that intellectual property I think that I would approach it the same Now when you say ask me to consult with them I don't know if this is a paid opportunity for you, but that's something you might want to Decipher and really, you know better understand or are they simply asking to pick your brain And to find out some of those best practices of what has worked well for you and your community I I love collaboration I'm always open to those conversations in a very transparent and ethical manner So I do think you know sharing this opportunity with your supervisor and or ceo Ask them how you how they would like you to proceed with moving forward in this conversation and again just Getting clear. What does this consultation look like? Right, you know, I think one of the big trends across the nonprofit sector Moving forward is the valuation of intellectual property and this really dovetails to programming Programming protocols and processes and management And I think that's a revenue source for a lot of nonprofits and they might not realize it But it is I mean think about this Jared not five minutes ago You offered a document in nda form that really Is an amazing tool that saved somebody will save somebody a lot of time, right? We'll put that back into the programming if you have a programming Structure protocol and management system that can be used in another part of our country That eliminates a ton of work somebody can get up to speed right away And solve a problem in their community and so I think this needs to go to the question of What is the value of this information?  And paid you to create this? Then it really is something that really should go back to the organization. I think No, it should be part of that Um, and I agree with you distributed that you know distributing that information Is a valuable thing for everyone? And the collaborative nature is is a huge thing, but I think it's important that we start looking at some of these issues As assets You know you've mentioned that a couple of times julia and talk about a disruption that is very innovative and not Often considered or thought of in our sector. I wonder why right? I would tie it to that that valuation perhaps We're valuing our intellectual property at the level in which we should be Um, so I think this gives us a great opportunity, especially towards the end of the year to address and reassess What is our intellectual property? So as we're doing inventory of perhaps, you know technology equipment and staffing and You know our workspaces and places. Let's also add into that assessment and inventory our intellectual property Well, think about it Jared. Think about how many organizations and you and I know this Um, that will come even into another community From black tie gallows to after school programs to evaluate or watch see what's going on Learn about that and take that back to their own community And I think that that's great. I think it's it's magical, but I think there's nothing wrong With saying hey, we've worked really hard and we've crafted A program that we know works We know how much it costs. We know how to manage it. We know how to fund it We know how to market it. We know how to be successful What if you package that and then you put it out there? for the marketplace to You know engage in purchase lease You know licensing whatever you want to call it It could ramp up a community really quickly Really quickly because these programs take a long time to to get going and to be successful They do and I I couldn't help but think about in the sports world because you know us we love to bring in our sports analogies really looking at Perhaps you know that you're playing this big team or this this athlete and you have this competitive Game in the future. There's always someone who's going to find out more about this team or this athlete, right? Like really benchmarking What is it we're up against? What are the plays we need to know? It's very similar It really is and I think that um, you know, it helps you I would think they could say you wanted to launch a new Let's say a new theater program in your community and it deals with children And you've never had a community theater for children in your you know in your region Imagine if you had a program That you could draw upon all that information and then you went out to fundraise You could go to your philanthropic investors and say look here's the plan We're not going to kind of like free will and this because we think it's a great idea You could say this is our structure. This is what we're going to do. This is exactly what your investment is going to do for us I think it's a win-win. I think it ramps up projects and it it makes it easier to get financial support To take that further I have seen that happen and I love that you brought that example in because What I also coach is to say we know this works because we have proven results of this Practice in another community. So we are looking at the same model We are taking this model implementing executing analyzing here within our community We expect and forecast similar results because this has been done Yeah proof of concept Well, you know, this has been great. I mean our time is up Before we I know it's like before we bid a deal I want to mention something really really interesting that our friends from fundraising academy are launching They are launching an accelerant program on their cause selling Program and cycle and it's going to be directed by one of the fundraising academy You know, really amazing leaders. It's a very small cohort. It works together On lessons on feedback on some mentoring I think it's just going to be such a pivotal piece Of somebody's career to help navigate them through Their development career and strategies and success. So I just wanted to kind of plant that seed Jared I know we've started talking about it Briefly and we're going to get more information about it But should be something really really fun to look into Yeah, and I don't believe there was a huge cost associated So Hannah burger was on with me a couple of weeks ago Maybe last week I forget now and she's the representative with fundraising academy leading this accelerant program And uh, I think it's phenomenal so much so that I've considered entering it just to Again continue my own education as we move into the new year Cool. Well, we'll get some more information up about it because I think it could just I mean you and I have really become fans of this this program But I imagine how amazing it would be To be in a national cohort where you could actually learn from the other participants and and see what they're doing It would be magical Magical so check that out and again, we'll be getting more information. I'm julia patrick I've been joined today by the nonprofit nerd herself. Jared ransom Again, we want to thank all of our presenting sponsors. And you know, Jared You said something really cool that We're honored to have them with us and I loved that you said that because I do feel that way I'm really honored that they you know choose us And invest with us. So thank you very much. Wow another great week. We have had a lot cooking We have a busy week next week too. Don't we we do and So excited because we are with you till the very end of the year and again in the new year so Don't go away. 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