Hello and let's talk about whether COVID-19 is airborne. There has been a lot of concern about this issue that's the airborne spread of the disease over the past few days. When we say airborne, we are talking about the possibility of the disease spreading through smaller particles called aerosols, which can linger in the air for much longer after they are discharged from the nose or mouth of an infected person. The current belief is that the disease largely spreads through bigger particles which sink to the ground faster and are not likely to linger in the air for very long. This was published in the Clinical Infectious Diseases Journal with the title It is Time to Address the Airborne Transmission of COVID-19. The WHO has until now focused more on the role of the big particles and a lot of the safety measures we have been told to take, for instance keeping a 2 foot distance, washing our hands with soap after touching surfaces, are based on that model. Now the WHO has acknowledged that there is evidence emerging of the spread through smaller particles as well. This is also important considering how say air conditioning could play a role in the spread of the smaller particles. If the airborne spread of COVID-19 is established as a major factor, we could be seeing the need for an additional set of precautions as well. Newspix Prabir Pulkai has also spoke to Dr Satyajit Rat and discussed what these new developments mean. Satyajit, recently one issue that has come up is that a lot of the COVID-19 infections are airborne, not just to what are called big particles which are easier to stop and so on, but to what is called aerosol, small droplets which stay there, can float for a much longer time, do not drop to the ground very rapidly and also operates through the what's called the air conditioning and ventilation system, which can therefore affect large buildings where a lot of this actually are sort of shared through the air conditioning system. So the virus can spread to the air conditioning system if a number of people are in a closed hall, even if the hall is large, which is large gatherings, this seems to have an effect. So do you think the aerosol issue is really something which we should take much more seriously now? Okay, so this is obviously exploded into the media and public discourse over these past three days or so, ever since a couple of Australian authors I think led a 200 plus researcher letter to clinical infectious disease, suggesting that we, suggesting more accurately rather than we, that the WHO should be much more focused on the aerosol issue than the WHO has been so far. The WHO has been more or less denying that aerosol is a major cause of concern and is really focusing on droplets and surface contamination through droplets. So to be fair to the WHO, the WHO has not actually denied that aerosol is an issue. The WHO has simply said that the evidence with regard to aerosol as far as the WHO's own technical company is concerned is somewhat equivocal at the moment and therefore they are not taking a position on it in formal recommendation terms. So, but let me get both ourselves and our listeners to step back a little. You see, the fact of the matter is that the virus spreads from one airway to another airway. The way it will spread is that the airway will put out virus in droplets of a whole variety of dimensions. When you say airways, you mean the human being. Oh, airways of the human beings, well, presumably airways of the bats as well, but that's a couple of years ago so let's not worry too much about that anymore. The reality is that you are going to have all manner of spread to be statistically possible. Whether it is through large droplets, small droplets, whether it is through droplets directly inhaled or droplets fallen on some surface and then transferred by my touching the surface and then my touching my nose, these are all just variations on the theme. So the first thing we must remember is that this is not some completely different method of transmission. These are all just variations on the theme. The second point is none of this has a break point. You know, everybody talks about Doga's Dooly, the two meter distancing. But the two meter distancing is not because transmission is remains exactly the same whether you are two inches away or Doga's away. And then when you are two inches beyond two meters away, transmission falls to zero. That's not the case. Although when we speak about this in public discourse and we say, oh, you know, keep two meter distances, we begin to make it sound inadvertently as though that is the case. And I think this is a good time to remind ourselves that as you go further and further away from each other, there is a gradual decay in the likelihood that infection will reach. That's because actually much larger volume will take place.  So the volume reduces for you in terms of your ingestion the further away you go. But that's that's that's one point to the other side of that is that when I sneeze, there are very large droplets which don't even travel six inches. Then there are smaller ones and smaller ones and smaller ones. There is a whole distribution also. So you're always going to have some likelihood the real question about recommendations of a cutoff kind is at what point do you recommend the cutoff? And that point needs to exclude a lot of possibility and yet be practicable. That's always going to be a shifting zone. So we need to keep the reality of this continuum in mind rather than getting head up about are you three inches on my side of the two meters or four centimeters on your side. Similarly think about the aerosol problem now in context because what we now have is do aerosols matter now if you are in the marketplace in India where you're buying vegetables from outdoor vendors and somebody sneezes there is an aerosol but the aerosol dissipates in the open air and in all likelihood never achieves enough concentration to manage very strong transmission. Does this mean that nobody will get infected? Not at all. Let me interrupt it for a second. So the issue is one is of course that the transmission itself takes place. The second is what is the concentration which you ingest so to say through your air base and so therefore the degree of dilution in open and closed spaces could be very different. Number one add to that the basic energy saving pattern in air conditioning where air is a substantial proportion of the air is recycled. Which then exposes you over and over. Now keep something else in mind it's true that large droplets don't travel very far but because the droplet is large there will be many more virus particles in the droplet. It's true that a small aerosol droplet will travel far but individual aerosol droplets will inevitably have fewer viruses. So there are there are these trade-off continuums all around in a variety of ways. So the question here is not is aerosol transmission possible? Of course it's possible. The question here is not should we worry or not worry about aerosol transmission? Of course we should consider aerosol transmission just as much as we should consider surface mediated indirect transmission. The question here is what are the practical situations and strategies to function as advice with specific reference to aerosols? That's really the issue and that context closed door crowded recirculating air air conditioning is always going to be an issue. The restaurant example of major outbreak that is commonly used is in fact a classic example where under an air conditioner outlet there were three tables and people at all three tables got infected but remember that nobody else in the large room got infected. So it's essentially a matter of people getting exposed to aerosol over and over again. Is this an impossibility? No not at all. Should we be concerned about this? Absolutely yes. Should we be aware of the specific situation in which aerosol transmission becomes a likelihood a high likelihood hazard that we should do something about? That's the point that we should. In our next segment we bring you an interview with Palestinian lawyer and activist Dayan Abbottu. She explains what's happening with Israel's annexation plan of large parts of the occupied West Bank and the Jordan Valley. The plan was supposed to be implemented on July 1st but it seems to have been postponed. Dayan Abbottu talks about the continuing nature of the occupation and oppression and explains the death of the two state solution. I think it's important to first keep in mind that there was nothing sacred or special about July the 1st. That was listed as the first date that they could begin annexation and the way that they were going to begin annexation was through one of two methods. One was to either put forward a law into the Knesset, the parliament, or through a cabinet bill doing the same. The reason that July 1st was the date that was specified was that this was the date that was spelled out in the agreement between Netanyahu and his once rival who then became his ally, Benny Gantz, as being the first date that such legislation could be introduced. We don't know if things are on hold. We don't know what the shape of annexation looks like. What we do know is that it hasn't been called off. There hasn't been a statement by Netanyahu backing off of it. We haven't heard Gantz back down from it either. In fact, all that we've been hearing is that they haven't yet put forward the details of it in large part because we are now here experiencing a second wave when it comes to the spread of the coronavirus, and this particular government was a government that was enacted only to address the coronavirus with one exception, and that is annexation. I don't suspect that things are going to be canceled. In fact, I just suspect that it's going to be somewhat delayed until a little bit of a later time, but certainly no later than when the U.S. elections take place. That's what I predict. So to take maybe a step backwards, something you and many other commentators have pointed out, of course, is that annexation, per se, is not something new. This is not any new thing. It's been happening for decades. We've seen, for instance, the demolition of houses, the takeover of lands. We've seen a lot of other atrocities. We've also seen steps like the building of the Apatah at Wall, for instance, which in many ways basically create the structure for that. But even so, in that sense, how do you see this marking, for instance, a new phase in the occupation that is taking place right now? Over the course of the past 53 years, we have seen two different approaches take place when it comes to the occupation. The first approach, which has been the approach that we've seen over the course of the majority of years, has been what's called the quiet approach or what others have termed creeping annexation or defecto annexation. And in that system, what's done is that we've already seen the measures of annexation on the ground, but it's been done quietly. So we've seen the construction of 130 settlements. We've seen that there are now 700,000 Israeli settlers, which just to put it in perspective, that's 25% of the population of the West Bank. We've seen that checkpoints, there's nearly 700 checkpoints and roadblocks in place in the West Bank. We've seen the construction of the wall. We've seen land confiscation. We've seen home demolitions. We've seen settler violence. These are all measures that have been undertaken now for 53 years. The difference between that and the other approach, which is the loud approach, is that in the past, while it was all done very quietly, along comes Netanyahu who says, I'm not going to do things quietly any longer. And I'm going to be bold and I'm going to be in your face about it. And watch, I want to see if the world's going to stop me. And so it's important to keep in mind that in 2018 when Israel passed a law that was called the Jewish nation state law, which is a law that privileges Israel's Jewish citizens over its non-Jewish citizens. It's a Jewish supremacy law in effect. Again, he didn't have to do that because the Israeli Supreme Court was already on side with everything that the government had been doing. And it had already instituted this measure of Jewish supremacy. The difference was is that he wanted to be loud about it. He wanted to be bold. And he wanted to see if the world would stop him and they didn't. And so too when it comes to this current phase of annexation, all that he is doing is he is saying to the world, I want to see if you're going to stop me. It formalizes the system of apartheid as we already know it. And the only thing that makes it different is that now he's saying to the world, I'm going to institute apartheid and I want to see if you're going to stop me. On the ground, it may not change a lot. There will be some changes and I don't want to undermine those. I do believe that this move will embolden the Israeli settler movement. It will allow the settlers to go and attack Palestinians with a lot more freedom. I think that it's also going to embolden the settlers to build and expand more settlements. I think that it's also going to embolden the Israeli government to demolish more Palestinian homes. And I think it's going to embolden the Israeli government to try to get rid of as many Palestinians as possible. So I don't want to say that there's no substantive difference between pre-annexation and post-annexation. But the difference in the minds of the Israeli government, the reason that this is being done now is because he can. Right. So of course, has a lot to do with Trump's so-called deal of the century itself. A lot of the Netanyahu's annexation plan is very closely connected to Trump's plan as well. But let's take this question also to that of the two-state solution.  There's been talk of it, but clearly the situation in the ground is completely changed. So what does this annexation plan do to this two-state solution? The two-state solution died the minute that the Israelis were unwilling to uproot any settlers. And sadly, that was in 1968. And so we've been living since that time with this myth that somehow Israel is going to end the settlement enterprise, that it's going to withdraw the settlers, that it's going to end its colonial rule. And we know that it won't. The difference between that position and what's happening now is that while we Palestinians have known this for quite some time and have been articulating this for many, many years, this is now the first time that the international community is realizing the death of the two-state solution, which is why they're pushing back so hard on this issue of annexation. The issue of annexation, formal annexation, does two things to the international community. It forces them to reconcile with the fact that there is not going to be a two-state settlement. And it forces them to reconcile with the fact that there is no peace process. And given that this is where the state of affairs is, it requires that they actually put into place measures to stop annexation. But we've known for 53 years that Israel will never withdraw or evacuate its settlements. Right. That's all we have in this episode. Let's talk with you back tomorrow with major news developments from the country. 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Hello everyone. Welcome to theCUBE's special presentation of the AWS startup showcase. This episode's on cybersecurity. This is season three, episode three of the ongoing series featuring exciting hot stars from the ecosystem of AWS. I'm your host, John Furrier with theCUBE. And today we are excited to be joined by Aman Bhatia who is the VP of customer experience at Thuropast. Good to see you. Thanks for coming on today. Appreciate you coming on and talking about complex projects and compliance and innovation. Sounds good. Thanks for having me, John. So, you know, the startup scene right now with cloud is going next gen. You've seen a lot of AI conversations. It's come compliance legal now. We're seeing a lot of that conversations around copyrights and the law and all that stuff. So you got innovation going on at a level that no one's seen before. And now you got the compliance and other aspects being in the same conversation. So people want to turn compliance into an enabler and an innovator driver, not a blocker. And this is something that you guys do at your company. And again, data's in the conversation. More apps are thrown up, more data than ever before. And the security risks are higher. Budgets aren't doubling, but data is. So, you know, the compliance conversation is front and center right now. What are you guys seeing right now from a business standpoint? What is the compliance conversations going like right now for you guys? Yeah, that's a great question. And it definitely is front and center, compliance is right. And the reason is because in many ways, proving your compliance with important security frameworks is now the currency for doing business. It's the only way as a SaaS company, as a company managing customer data, you can win enterprise business deals. That's number one. Number two, it's the only way for you to build and maintain your reputation. Look, any company, whether you're a startup or not, it takes a long time to build your reputation. And the last thing you want to do is have a security incident, which impacts your end customer and it impacts their reputation. It certainly will impact your reputation. So, those are definitely two elements we're seeing in the marketplace. It is the currency of doing business. So, when you're talking to customers and prospects, they all know they have to get on top of this, right? And it's not, it's complex. A lot of little nuances involved, platform discussions, tied to business investments. It's not a bolt on anymore. It really is built in from day one. A lot of people have to do that.  How do you guys have that conversation? How do you help people understand and onboard the operational mindset into getting compliance as that smart move to get in the front of this and not make it, you know, chasing their tail, if you will. Definitely, it's no longer a bolt on in any way at all. So, when we speak with prospects, it's often a conversation on our part to explain to them why they should start and focus on security and compliance from day one. It's very easy to delay this till the day and enterprise customer asks you for a specific audit or a report, right? It's very easy to make that decision early on. However, it's a little bit like sort of, you know, working on your fitness or going, exercising or going to the gym. It's something which takes time. It takes effort. It takes training. It takes training your staff. It takes establishing your systems and processes in the right place. And that's really where a company like Theropass and a lot of the other compliance automation providers come in as well to help you prepare from day one. So you don't have to do it all at the very end and have mixed results. It's interesting. I was having a conversation with the CISO the other day and we were talking about how they, how they keeps in shape because they call them a tech athlete because security, the pace of play is very high. Innovation right now is seen from startups to large companies. So people are leaning into the innovation opportunities with AI and cloud. So, you know, they have to be in shape, if you will, on not managing these seams that are developing, right? Whether it's security seams or data to be stored.  And the innovators want to go faster.  So this is where innovation has to be the pace car, if you will. So love to get your thoughts on how compliance has been a blocker and how people remove that blocker or balance innovation and compliance. Cause this is the tricky art and science of it. It definitely is a tricky art and science aspect to this, this thing, right? So what we see with a lot of customers is, I think when they don't start on day one with compliance and security, it makes the job a lot harder down the line, right? Because again, there's the people element, there's a system element, there's a process element which all needs to be in sync together for compliance and security to work. The other big thing that we noticed is that the industry in general is very, there's a lot of canned controls out there which customers can adopt, but there might not be the best solution for the customer. So I think really taking a tailored and custom approach to developing the right security program for your company is really critical because it should match your business needs, it should match the industry verticals you're in, it should match the geographies or regulatory environments you're working in. And so unless you have a very customized tailored program from day one, it's going to be a struggle. I'm going to talk about thorough passes business. Obviously it's a differentiator, if you do it right, it could be problematic, if you don't get it right. This is a key area again to fuel the innovation aspect of it. What's the value proposition that you guys are offering? When you go into a customer, where are you guys winning? What are the benefits? And for prospects watching, what are signs that they do need you? What are some of the pain points? What do you guys see? What do they feel and how does that come? Take us through the business value proposition. Absolutely. I think the value proposition always starts with business value, right? And so typically prospects come to us when they're pursuing enterprise deals or other B2B deals where they have to prove trust in them as a company, right? And their security and compliance programs, it's typically accomplished through something like a SOC2 audit report, right? But it can also certainly be other frameworks such as ISO 27001, HIPAA, GDPR, so on and so forth. So it always starts with a value proposition of an end customer or an end user asking for this report so that, you know, our prospects see value in it. But I think the second most important piece is, I think we all know that in general, the cybersecurity industry has lots of different players. I mean, I don't remember the exact numbers. It's thousands of players out there, right? And so it's very easy to have lots of different vendors which where the systems don't talk to each other, they're not fully integrated. So what TheraPass offers is at least for compliance and security purposes and end-to-end platforms. So from the day you come in, you establish your controls, you work with a team of auditors, you implement these controls, you go through audit, you produce the right kind of documentation and reports you need to prove trust to your customers and then continuously then use the software to maintain these programs over a period of time. All of that in one place. Again, you can accomplish this through many, many pieces or many different vendors, but we try to offer it all in one. Talk about the enablement because, you know, this is a platform versus tool kind of conversation. End-to-end, I feel like that's the kind of thing where it's going to enable value. What are some of the proof points that people will see when they see the benefits of this? They take the end-to-end journey. Obviously it's a business differentiated to get it right. What are some of the things that comes out of it? Give some examples of, you know, situations where you've had customers see the benefits. What's that look like? And what would be the alternative if they had a patchwork, you know, compliance strategy? Yeah, that's a great question. So I'll start with the alternative first, actually. So typically when a customer buys a compliance automation software, they're really just buying software with a canned list of controls. It's all very templated. It's not customized to them. It's really just sort of jargon, right? Which they can go implement. Our differentiator there is the people, right? So we offer people support in addition to our software. So from day one that you come in and you're trying to establish which frameworks apply to you, which controls you want to implement, how you want to implement them for your business needs, for the geographies you're working in, for the industry verticals you're working in. From day one, you have the support of our team. So you're working directly with our auditors.  Because this journey is hard, right? It's not easy for sure, right? There's lots of different pathways here. And so typically that's the big differentiator which our prospects see from Theropass. I mean, when I think of examples, we've had plenty of prospects come from other compliance automation providers where typically they have the software, they try to work through the software where they get a bunch of green check marks, but ultimately when they go to audit or they're trying to prove trust with other companies, there's a lot of other questions that pop up. So we're trying to differentiate ourselves by proving that we want to show the green check marks that actually mean something. It's interesting you brought up audit and trust proof. This is huge. So you got the, I would say two categories, startups, they're always running as fast as they can. They're building value. You got the big companies who also are in that other bucket and they're doing new progressive things and they're doing, they're innovating, right? They're doing what they got to do to reinvent themselves and refactor for the next gen cloud. The issue is they want to do a business deal. They want app sec review or they want to do some sort of business relationship or frankly, you know, prove that they're secure to get the check box to do the next thing, whether it's a deal or government approval. A lot of these things go on all the time. And I hear more horror stories than ever and from companies saying I lost that deal because I didn't have a SOC2 report or I lost that deal, I needed a pen test. I need app sec review, but we do dev house. We update the code every day. How do I keep track of, I got web services. I mean, this is a huge complicated problem. Am I getting that right? You're hearing the same thing and is this what you guys solve? 100% and exactly more reason why to start working on this from day one. Because like you said, there's the app sec review piece. There's change management piece. It's documentation. It's having the right policies, procedures and all of the right controls implemented and not to mention, while there are many different kinds of IT audits that you can pursue to prove trust to your customers. There's also other things such as pen test, which we also offer in-house as well. But it's a complicated journey and you don't want to go through it alone. And this is where having the right software solution certainly matters, but also having the right experts so they can help customize the program for you matters a lot as well. One big, one thing that comes up a lot in the CUBE conversation we're out there around this kind of area is ease of use and customer experience. For instance, is it like getting root canal on some level? Oh my God, I want to go get that done. Compliance, like this is like, I got to get all this work I got to do. Where's the benefit? There's a lot of work involved in IT related compliance. How do you guys make that easier and how do you answer that question of, if I go down this journey, I want it to be as easy as possible. I'll make the investment, but I got to see some benefit. I don't want to be up to my eyeballs and busy work and hassles and all those forms I got to fill out. That's kind of, I mean, over simplifying that, but you get the idea. How do you guys make it easier? Exactly, and I think this is where our software and our expertise combined make a difference, right? Because for instance, with a lot of the compliance frameworks, there are large number of overlaps. And so what our software tries to do is to really simplify that overlap to make your life easier. So you don't have to do repeat work. So you don't have to do things all over again, right? At different points when you're pursuing different frameworks, that's where we try to make a difference. A great example of this is, imagine you're a healthcare tech startup, right? And so you certainly need to pursue SOC2 because that's a very common currency of doing enterprise business, but you might also want to prove that you're HIPAA compliant or that you're pursuing other certifications like high trust. There are a large number of overlaps amongst these frameworks. And what our software is able to do is to present those to you. So you're able to do all of the work at once. It's going to feel like sort of one audit to you, even though you're ultimately achieving multiple achievements here at the very end, you're achieving multiple reports at the end. I mean, I think it's a no brainer for a startup to get the foundation in right out of the gate, make it part of the fabric, table stakes for the company. That's a great market. You guys probably doing really well there. I can see great value there. On the other side, more mature companies might have legacy enterprise. You know enterprises are, they solve complexity by adding more complexity and they don't want to do that with the cloud. So they want to solve with easier solutions. You guys are one of them. How do you advise those mature companies that already have some compliance but want to grow, they want to refactor, then jump in on the cloud. How do they leverage you guys for growth, for their further growth if they got existing controls in place? Yeah, that's a common scenario which we run into as well. Some more mature businesses, they've pursued a variety of different compliance frameworks over a period of time. Now they're essentially in maintenance and evolution mode. And so there again, the software and the expertise pieces combined make tremendous amounts of difference because think of it this way, as a mature company, you're typically thinking about your growth in terms of expanding into new geographic areas, probably maybe new industry or new verticals. And each of those come with their own set of requirements. So as your company grows, you want to definitely evolve your controls and that's where our software and expertise can make a difference, right? But it doesn't stop there. The size of your company matters as well. So the way you implement your controls when you are a 50-person company or a 100-person company is very different than when you have 1,500 employees and maybe even contractors geographically. How do you ensure that all of the endpoints where customer data or sensitive data is located is secure and safe? That's where the software and the expertise make a huge difference. It's a task you don't want to do alone. I got to ask you about the current economic headwinds. You know, there's kind of two markets around this, the AI market which is very frothy. But generally we're seeing some headwinds. People think that's going to turn around. Always puts pressure on companies spend. How do you guys convince companies, hey, don't leave compliance on the side of the road. You got to keep doubling down or making that as a smart business investment. What's the pitch or what's the strategy you guys do to make sure that they're set up for this on the security side and make sure that that compliance is in there? Yeah, I think first and foremost, everything that we've been talking about so far that having a right security program in place is now the currency of doing business. There is no other way to do business. This is just a must-have. So I think that's a very important element of the conversation. But the other secondary piece is, I think just in general, the industry is full of providers who are very manual in nature. It's not software-based work. They're doing IT audits the old way. They're doing things using spreadsheets and SharePoints and documentation, passed on through emails and so on and so forth. And that's where the software piece makes a difference. We think that our software makes it easy enough and efficient enough for us to provide you service. And then we certainly try to pass along a lot of those savings as well so that it can be both a cost-effective thing. But while still allowing you to pursue this must-have that you need to have. Why are companies hesitant on this? Is it because they don't want to look at it? They think their perception might be it's too much work. They ignore it or they're too busy on other things. What are some of the reasons why people aren't saying, hey, this is an obvious tier one feature of our business? I think it's a little bit of all of the above, definitely there's an element of effort and time that companies have to put in which can be a detractor or a blocker for them pursuing this path, right? And making sure they're secure from day one. But what we typically notice as well is that it does, especially when you're trying to secure your application and the customer data in your IT infrastructure, it requires some time and effort from your engineering team. And as we all know, engineering time is extremely valuable, right? And they are working on obviously sort of money-making features hopefully, right? And so I think that's where we see the biggest blocker people are very hesitant to use their engineering time or anything other than value added or business value. But I would argue that this is a business value because again, for any company, whether startup or not, it takes years for you to build your reputation and it only takes one security incident for your end customer to lose trust in you and to move their business somewhere else. And the other things to deals, any kind of checks you need trust, there's going to be a huge badge of value and I think, I mean, I think if a company's got product market fit on a product, they got to get compliance up and running, you can't wait. I mean, the downside is pretty massive. Give some color commentary to downside to what would happen, examples where you're seeing the customers that didn't make the right investments. What are some of the downsides? Because the business logic is simple. Product market fit, get compliance check settled because you're going to have reviews, you're going to have deals. What are some of the downsides? I want to share some color. Yeah, the downsides are definitely a critical security incident which puts your end customers data at risk and possibly puts you even at legal or regulatory risk as well, right? I think what's very interesting in the cybersecurity industry in general is what we observe is that there's typically three end points which are the weakest from a company's security perspective, right? I think number one, often tends to be people, right? And so it's very important part of what Theropass offers is security awareness training and modules built in for employees to get the right training whether it's on securing customer data, whether it's with securing AI models, so on and so forth, right? So it's very important you secure your people in that way, right? And make sure they're doing all of the right things because one mistake from one employee can lead to a massive security incident which can hurt you reputationally. The second big piece that we notice is obviously from an application perspective, you wanna make sure that your application is secure. There are no end points where the threat actors are able to get in and do damage to customer data that obviously I think we've all read lots of news stories about data breaches, companies getting hacked and so on and so forth, right? And the third piece is definitely there's also an element of physical security depending on whether you're a remotely based company or not, right? You wanna secure your office location. You wanna make sure there's no confidential data. I mean, this might be slightly less so now in post COVID world, but threats still exist. There's a lot of customer data that gets printed out or is sort of laying next to somebody's desk or anything like that. And those can all lead to security incidents which are going to hurt your reputation. I mean, they got to assume the security is going to happen. I was talking again to another CSO and someone from AWS for instance around their shared responsibility model which I'm a big fan of. I think people generally think that the shared security model is awesome. I mean, you have interoperability of multiple vendors working together. It's security is a team sport. Everyone kind of agrees that. But that creates seams, right? These seams can be exploited by the bad actors. So, you got to assume something's going to happen and if you can't get the audit done if you can't actually get the data, this is huge.  I just don't understand why people don't do this. I mean, is it because just mind share? They need to be reminded of it? What's the big reason? Do you think it's not as fast? Is this just too complicated for them to get out of their way as operations? What's the core problem? I'm an effort. Like I mentioned earlier, I think just the amount of effort and our industry is very rife with lots of solutions which are still very, I would call it old school in nature, right? They require a lot of work in spreadsheets or notion projects or different large seams of data that you're storing on a Google Drive and then you're sharing it with somebody else and it makes the management of a security program really, really difficult and onerous and sometimes it makes it a check the box activity. And that's really where a company like Theropass is trying to make a difference through software and expertise. We're trying to make it as easy as possible for you to manage it all in one place in a centralized format so that that time and effort element is a lot lessened for you. Hold on, congratulations for being selected for the startup showcase with AWS ecosystem, Theropass being recognized as a great business. You guys got good traction and you're growing. But as VP of customer experience, let's kind of wind down the segment in getting into some of the customer stories. Why are they buy from you guys? What are some of their experiences? Most companies want partners, not vendors. Take us through the customer journey then experience that you guys provide. But take a minute to explain what goes on and the reason why you guys are successful. Yeah, thanks for that opportunity to talk about this. Look, ultimately Theropass is a company which really cares about our customers and we have over 200 G2 reviews with four to five star ratings to prove it. Ultimately, what we want to help our customers with is pursuing the right compliance and security posture because like I mentioned earlier in the interview, it's a currency of doing business. It's the only way to do business that we wanna help our customers be successful, innovating and building their business and reputation. And then secondly and most importantly, our software plus expertise model really allows customers to build a custom and tailored approach to pursuing compliance and security. It's very easy out there to take a very canned or templated approach, but building a custom program for your company is ultimately the two differentiator which you can prove to your end customers. That's awesome. Congratulations on your success. It's really hard for companies driving these complex projects, integrating the customer experience and compliance of their applications and using you guys and I know you have a great, great client roster of this and congratulations and thanks for taking the time and joining us on the program. Thanks for having me. Okay, this is the CUBE Special Presentation of AWS Startup Showcase Cybersecurity, season three, episode three of the ongoing series covering the hot startups from the AWS ecosystem. I'm your host, Jeffery. Thanks for watching.


Double good, double fun, double delicious. Rolling. Rollin' tonight. We are making shrimp and grits and shrimp Alfredo. Got some bacon grease in here with some onion, and I'm about to throw in some butter. And this is for the shrimp and grits, of course. Go ahead and turn it on. Start mouthing this. Butter. And I'm going to do a double recipe for my Alfredo, so it is in the cookbook. I'll show it to you in just a sec. And while we're at it, we are going to throw in some butter for the shrimp and grits. Let that start melting. About a stick and a half in here. Go ahead and cut it so it don't take it forever. Melt. Alfredo. We're going to use pasta, parmesan, cream, butter, salt, black pepper, and nutmeg. It's real easy. This has Dale State seasoning, and that should not be on there at all under my pasta and sauce. Is this a new cookbook? That's an older book. I think it's been updated, but some of y'all might have that, so y'all might need to change it. It's an older edition. I'm doing about three times the recipe. So I need to do one to two-thirds of a cup of cream times three. So we're going to drop our pasta. It only takes about seven minutes. That's probably enough since two people are eating shrimp. Maybe that'll be enough. Now when you do pasta, you should not put oil in it. You should just put a little salt in it and make sure you've got enough water. That's all you do. If you put oil on your pasta, then your sauce don't cling to the pasta well. A lot of people don't know that. So let's pour up our cream. I'm going to take four cups of cream. This is heavy whipping cream. That's what I like to use for Alfredo. You can use half and half. I would not recommend a evaporated milk, not for Alfredo sauce. So two of these and then just a little bit more is going to work. I get my nutmeg on Amazon. If you want to buy some, you can log on to our website. You'll see that link under pantry items. I think it's under spices. So our butter is melted. We've got our nutmeg ready. We've got our cream ready to go in our Alfredo sauce. Mr. Cream, our onion and butter for our shrimp. We're going to use this seasoning because it's not as spicy as the, tell me, I never say it right. Sacheries. Sacheries. Okay, so I'm going to put a little bit of this in here. Going to our shrimp. And then all we're going to do is toss that shrimp in there. I don't want to over, the shrimp is already cooked. So we've got to be real careful with what we're doing today. Our pasta's ready. So we're going to pour it up. And then we're going to start the shrimp. Because of COVID, I couldn't get raw shrimp. It's sold out.  But it'll work fine. This is starting to get hot. Since it starts to get hot, you want to add your cream. I'm going to pour just a little bit more in here. Not a lot, but some half and half. And that's all. That'll be our Alfredo sauce. It's real easy to make. You just add your butter and your cream. You can put some cream in there. Shrimp and grits. Yeah, okay. Touch up. Because it's going in grits. We're bringing this to a simmer. We're turning this up back here and we're about to add the shrimp to this. So for the shrimp and grits, I'm going to go ahead and add some shrimp to this. And then in here, we're going to put our shrimp for our Alfredo. It cools it down when it throws in shrimp hits. We're going to add a little salt and pepper to this. Now our grits are in the microwave on three minutes. I'm about to go stir those. Everything should come together right at the same time. The pasta's already made in the sink and ready. And typically I would sear the shrimp more. Get it really fried and brown. I don't want to overcook these because they're pre-cooked. So we've got to be real careful with that. Okay, the grits were on three minutes. And they were just in water to start them. And now I'm going to add a little cream to them. Water. And we're going to add the cream to them. Put them back in there for three more minutes. And then we'll add our cheese to them. And our salt and pepper. Y'all, because it's done already, I'm going to let this reduce underneath. What's underneath it, I'm going to let it reduce because I don't want all that water in it from the shrimp. So we're going to leave it on a high temperature and then we'll throw these back in there. I want to do the same thing with these. Because I want it to be sitting in more of a black butter. I think we're pre-cooked. You know, I couldn't leave them in here very long. I'm going to turn this front eye back on high. And let that stay on kind of reduced. And I don't think I added salt and pepper to this one. So we'll do that. We'll do this too. Little salt, little pepper. And each of them. It's reducing back to butter. This is reducing back to the original as well because of the liquid that came in there for the shrimp. And now we're adding our corn to our cream and butter. We mix that up. It's so easy to make Alfredo at home. And it's so much better than what you get in the store. We're going to pull this up a little bit and let it simmer a little more. So we're going to add some cheese to our grits. We're going to add some salt and pepper to our grits. Salt. Little pepper. Mix them up. Salt and pepper. Good. Throw these shrimp in. The same thing with them. And that butter back on them. The flavor back where it needs to be. We're going to put them back in the bowl. Our guests.  If you have ground nutmeg, you can use it too. But do not skip this step. That's what makes the Alfredo taste like Alfredo.  Just run a little water over it. Look at this big serving to Joseph. Unless this big boy. There we go. There we have too much cream. That looks good to me. Shrimp Alfredo. You know what would be good? Maybe put a little Alfredo on this too as well. For Tillman. While we're at it. Double fun. Double delicious. Thanks for watching Colored Valley Cooks. Where we cook like mama did. Y'all come eat.


Hi I'm George Cao and I'd like to tell you about my upcoming online course called Create Your Framework. So I have been in business for about 10 years and in that time I have created more than a dozen frameworks probably dozens of frameworks because each one of my online courses it's itself a mini framework and then there is a larger framework that encompasses that all the online courses fall under. I've also written four books and each one has its own framework and of course they all fit into the overall umbrella as well. So let me actually first start by talking about why it's important for you to create your own framework if you have a message you want to share in the world if you have an authentic business that you want to build. You want to build a business where you can earn a livelihood doing what you love. Why is it so important to create your own framework? Okay so first of all what is a framework? Let me explain that and by I'm going to show you my screen and give you examples of what a framework is and then we're going to go into creating your own. So one of the most popular frameworks on the internet or not on the internet it's on the internet but one of the most popular frameworks in recent history is the Maslow's hierarchy of needs and that is a pyramid-shaped framework and I'm going to share my screen right now to show you. So you might recognize this Maslow's hierarchy of needs. It starts with physiological needs and goes all the way up until esteem and self-actualization needs. So that's a popular framework for personal and sort of development of human beings right. Another popular framework is oh this is a popular among some of my clients the work of Byron Katie and her framework is more of a linear framework. It's a step-by-step you know step one step two etc right so each step has has particular is a particular practice right so step ones and then and then step three has a sub framework called the four questions. So again frameworks are kind of like nesting within each other it's kind of like little Russian dolls you have an umbrella framework and then you have smaller frameworks underneath it and so you might have an overall framework that helps you to organize all of your ideas about how you work with clients or how you write or what kind of content you create that's an overall framework and then you have sub frameworks underneath that one for each of your courses one for each of your books you may even have many frameworks for a particular blog post etc. So that's a linear this so this is a this is a pyramid framework this is a linear framework let me show you a circular framework so this is a circular framework a pie shaped framework which is called the coaching wheel so a lot of life coaches use this with their clients you know as they meet with their clients though the clients will assess them or they'll help their clients assess themselves on okay from a scale of zero to ten how satisfied are you with your business or your career on a scale of zero to ten how satisfied are you with your the fun and recreation elements of your life or the health elements of your life or the family and friends element or the romance etc personal growth so this coaching wheel then helps the coach and the client see what they need to work on to then focus their you know their their work together on on certain aspects so that's a circular circular pie shape framework let me show you now a grid framework so this is another popular framework called the five love languages which is something that I book I read many years ago which really was helpful for me in my marriage and not just in marriage but also in friendships to because according to the author of this this framework Gary Chapman human beings modern human beings have these five different ways that we receive and give love and so this is a grid shape framework because you know and I would also call this an archetypal framework meaning as a human being you can place yourself in one of these five and actually the way that the love languages work is that you have a primary love language and you have a secondary love language but you would place yourself say oh you know I really really get a lot out of someone giving me words of affirmation or for some people like for my wife that doesn't matter as much for her it's much more important for receiving gifts and active service right for some people it's physical touch and we're quality time and then here's how to communicate actions to take things to avoid so that's a really interesting grid shaped framework now I also want to show you I also of course have a framework for how I think about business so let me show that to you now on on the screen and this is the three stages for every authentic business and I want to thank one of my viewers now clients and friends captain for helping me create this graphic and this is how I think about how each authentic business grows there's there's stage one which is audience building okay you have to have some people to offer your product services to right stage two is actually where you work together with your audience to understand and create the product or service or program that you would be offering them that's really how you how you create a successful offering because otherwise most people they misunderstand business by saying why I'm gonna create something in my garage and I'm gonna go and try to market that and they find out after spending months or even years creating a product that the market doesn't want it and I think it's much more productive to actually start out by spending you know a few months creating an audience who really appreciates your content for who you are you would be writing about things that are important to you things that inspire you and then noticing what is inspiring to them and then creating more and then you create the offer the product service in relationship to them and then once that's successful you then expand the marketing of that to to the masses and so so this is my overall kind of public framework for how I how I think about business now with regards to framework you may have a public framework which is what is you know what your potential clients and your clients work with and what you what your audience understands of how you think about your area but you might even also have a private framework which is how you organize your information it's a bit more detailed maybe it's not as understandable by the audience and I'd like to show you just a glimpse of what my what my private framework is and I have it in a spreadsheet because I find spreadsheets very easy to work with you can do percentages etc and this is how I organize my content and I will be sharing this tool and teaching me how to use it in my upcoming course on create your framework so for example this is how I organize my content here's all my content titles I'm not going to walk through the entire thing right now obviously I'm just giving you a sense of it but here are my my here's my private framework my various is more detailed it's more detailed than the three stages and so there's creating content there's corporate productivity there's optimizing offerings there's authentic selling there's healthy money and then there's authentic business principles and the nice thing is I put all of my content in one of these six categories and the great thing is that I can quickly see how many pieces of content I've created in each of these categories and what might what I might want to create more of and when I'm ready to create a course or when I'm ready to create a book on let's say I'm writing my next book on corporate productivity or creating a course about it I can simply sort the spreadsheet and now I have all of my content pieces related to joyful productivity that I can create a course about or that I can write my book chapters on so it's really useful to be able to organize to have a framework like I said that then you can organize all of your content in and then from your private framework you would then create a public framework that makes more sense for the public that's much more consumable by the public so it's important as I've hopefully I now I'm getting into the section now but why is it important to create your own framework so now you know one of the reasons to create it is that it helps you to organize all of your ideas so the number one helps you organize all of your ideas into one umbrella and the different sections of it secondly it helps you to organize the ideas that you're coming across online or offline as you are learning and researching and studying your field you could say okay this additional piece of information or this additional exercise I would I need to I need to work this into my framework so that I can use it with my clients or so that I can write about or so that I can expand on it okay so it's really useful to be able to organize all of your research into these framework into your framework so that you know okay next time you want to expand on a particular place you now have a place where you're storing all of your ideas in fact I'm going to show you is how do I store ideas when it comes to when it comes to my own research okay so I have I use Google Drive and again I'm going to be walking you through how I do this in my course and teaching you and helping you do it yourself so basically I have a Google Drive folder called workshops and this is how I organize all of my course content and so the way I think about how my framework touches the world how my framework is practical in the world is that I teach courses related to each part of my framework okay and so whenever I come across let's say book creation is one of the one of the courses I teach that's part of my I didn't even show you my full framework what I showed you here just was my content framework but I have a fuller framework which is which is how I organize my courses so there's various levels if I think about framework I'm going to talk you through that in the course itself so that you can organize it however you want to that makes sense for you so one of my course is a book creation so in my internet research as I come across more information about book creation book writing book publishing book marketing I will then be able to go right into this this course and I have a notes about book creation okay I have notes and that's where I'm going to put my additional information that I'm going to be integrating into my upcoming course about writing publishing marketing books as an example so I have I that's how I organize my my new information that gets woven into my framework and I'm going to talk about more about how you organize information using bookmarks and things like that that will then weave into your future content inside the course so why is it important number one it's important for you to organize your information for you to be able to know what's what holes are missing because once you organize the information you go oh okay I realize that now my framework is missing this particular element so do I want to create that element within my framework or do I want to say that I'm not going to focus on that in my framework in my message because all of us can only focus on a certain number of things so there are there are aspects of marketing for that that I don't focus on that I say you know what I'm going to let other people focus on that so for example marketing on Pinterest that's not that's something I decided not to include in my framework or doing in-person speaking that's something I decided not to include in my framework because I I work with people who want to be able to develop a successful online presence whether or not they do in person speaking right so as you develop your framework you're going to you're going to come across holes as you as you do your research that you can decide whether to add into your framework or to develop partnerships with other people who are better at that that you can then have a referral partnership say this is my framework and that's your framework I'm gonna refer you people who are better at who need your framework okay so another reason why it's important to have your framework is once besides knowledge management and information organization very important reason is that it makes your work irreplaceable it makes your work irreplaceable okay so I have known a lot of people for example over the years who have gotten trained in the work of Byron Katie you know a lot of my clients have been but the thing about the work of Byron Katie is it's her framework it's Byron Katie's framework which means she's training thousands of people to use her framework so if someone's going to work with you and then they come across somebody else who doesn't work with Byron Katie and they like that person's personality better whatever they'll just go and work with that other person so having your framework the thing is even if you've been trained in other people's frameworks you can still create your own framework you can borrow bits and pieces from other people's framework to create your own framework that makes the most sense for you because the other thing you will notice about frameworks is that no matter how much you study a framework you'll always find that there are holes in it you'll find that no framework is perfect the holes like the Byron Katie I mean I know there are a lot of fans but as you study it you might say you know I would have said that in a different way than Byron Katie right or I would have done this exercise in a different way than Byron Katie or I would have added a fifth question or I've added a question between questions two and three that I find is useful for my clients or is useful for myself so as you look at other people's framework I invite you to come to it from not from a critical point of view but from a more open mind to say how could I make this even better because you will be able to make it better nobody has to claim the truth nobody has to claim the truth not even you right all of us when it comes to truth truth is ineffable no one can pin down to say I have the only truth and everybody in the whole world should only look at reality this way okay truth is always evolving the scientists even with the scientific method they're always coming across oh we thought the laws of physics were like this but now that we're studying the universe it's breaking our laws of physics and now we're going into the quantum mechanics model and who knows what's after the quantum mechanics model there's going to be even more evolution even even in the laws of physics okay so no one has to claim the truth and someone can say I'm going to take the quantum mechanics model and apply it to personal development yes I'm not claiming that it's scientific but I'm using parts of that those ideas to to to talk about and you've heard of quantum personal development you know the word quantum has come into various personal development methods because they're just borrowing bits of these ideas into their own framework so as you create your own framework it's going to become unique to you okay and here's the thing your audience that you're developing will resonate because you are building an authentic business and you've developed an audience who resonates with your personality who resonates with your way of thinking they're going to resonate more with your framework than with other people's frameworks that's the definition of building an authentic audience through your own content through authentic content so you all might resonate more with the way I think about marketing and business than other people right so I create my own authentic framework that then you then I then I can help you work through building a building a business does that make sense so a framework makes your work irreplaceable now some people might say well George I'm concerned about creating a framework and publishing it because ideas change I might do some more research that helps that makes me realize oh parts of my framework are not as accurate I would like to change it here's the thing audiences love updated frameworks okay the Byron Katie framework has evolved over the years she didn't come up with the complete framework as it stands today from day one the one when she published her first book it has evolved over the years and I'm sure as she continues doing the work and as she has all these practice all these audience members who do the work and give feedback the framework might continue to evolve okay why not truth is ineffable okay personal development human beings are are unlimited depths in terms of how we how we grow and so your audience will actually appreciate when you republish a second version or a third version or fifth or tenth version of your framework and every time you republish your framework and relaunch your framework guess what it's another opportunity for even more people to discover who you are is when you launch a framework or relaunch a framework or republish a framework there's marketing buzz you know people will start sharing people get reminded about what your framework is and they'll start sharing with other people so every single time you relaunch your framework is an additional opportunity for you to to to learn more people to get to know your way of thinking and how you work with people or you know by the way a framework isn't just for people who work with clients you can do a you can create a framework for your just for your own content you want to write books great you need a framework to put all of your ideas in and to to know what kind of books you should be writing and maybe even in what sequential order makes more sense so here's the thing no matter where you are in your research and in your studies here's here's here's the truth that i i believe is true about you you already have researched a lot you've already learned a lot you already have a lot of life experiences that can be put into your own unique framework so i tell everybody no matter how beginner over they beginner they are start brainstorming your framework and start creating it right now okay because like i said your frameworks will evolve you're going to have multiple versions of your framework over your lifetime probably dozens of versions over your lifetime but if you start now at least you start to have a skeleton to start putting your the ideas that you're you're coming across the ideas you're thinking of you can start putting into a skeleton and you'll start noticing what the holes are so you know what to do more research on and you'll start to as you start organizing ideas you're going to start to be able to learn better okay you're going to be able to learn better because then you can say everything i learn it's either going to fit into my my skeleton framework that i'm developing or it's going to be evolving my framework to make it even better you don't have to publish your framework in the first month that you created or even the first year that you created you can keep your framework private for now as it keeps evolving and then once the evolution of your framework slows down you find that you're not changing it as often you're not evolving it as often then it's time to publish the first version of your framework because it's come to a plateau where you're like you know most of the ideas that are important to me i can fit into this this basic version one framework and then of course maybe second year third year i'll republish a a second version of framework which will then give me another marketing opportunity to have more people discover me so frameworks help you organize your ideas even from the day one that you start studying a topic start studying a topic you start creating your own framework okay borrowing of course liberally as much as you want from other people's frameworks until you have your own unique framework that you can publish and that doesn't look exactly like anybody else's it's going to be your own you're going to have your own words to it right because it's the way you think about it it's the way you talk about it and you actually have conversations it's going to evolve and it's going to come to a a more static point at some point and then it gets to really help you build your tribe build your audience build your community and build your products your services in your programs write your books create your courses create your videos etc so i hope that this is interesting as to why it's important to create your own framework i think if you have a message to get out there if you have your passionate about learning something and sharing a message in the world you ought to have your own framework so that you can actually benefit from the organizing the organization of it as well as the potential marketing opportunities if you choose to go in that direction so let me see if i want to thank those of you who are joining me for this this is a live video so i'm thanks those of you who are joining me if you have any questions about the upcoming course or about why it's important to create a framework please feel free to add your comments below the video and i look forward to respond there so i hope to see you in the upcoming course the the link to join is www.georgetcal.com slash framework so g-e-o-r-g-e george k-a-o cal dot com georgetcal.com slash framework is how you go and register for that for that next course and whether or not you join the course live or not it's going to be available as a recording and you'll be able to benefit from it as well as you're going to have you're going to be whether you you get it now or later you're going to have access to a student directory of other people who are creating their frameworks we're going to have a student journal where people are sharing what their frameworks are so you can you can really see what the different types of frameworks are and you know i i really welcome people to kind of borrow from each other because everybody's everybody borrows from other people for myself included everybody there is no original idea under the sun anymore we all either consciously or subconsciously borrow from other people's frameworks but at the end of the day we come up with our unique one at least it's slightly unique and then before we publish it we may want to do a little bit of research on the way we language our framework to see if other people have language in exactly the same way and if it's exactly the same way we might want to change that language a little bit so that we can have our own unique framework so uh check out the course see if you're interested in it i think it'll be very valuable for anybody who wants to develop their own knowledge and share their knowledge with the world so until then i hope to see you in the class take care


I decided to attend Pack Expo East because my business is growing and I needed to explore more packaging options and machinery options to reduce my labor cost. As a design engineer I'm always looking for solutions for different projects that I'm working on and this is a good place to just brainstorm and come up with some out-of-the-box ideas. I'm looking for that connection with suppliers, I think that is the most important place. What brought me back is that I've done this show consecutive years and it's taken place and my leads have grown 30% year after year. You see people in this very important market from this area that you don't normally see in the shows either Chicago or Las Vegas. If I could describe Pack Expo East in one word it would be exhilarating. High-opening, informational, possibilities.


Yo! Welcome to my channel. We're going to be doing a review of the ASL or the American Sign Language that's used in the second season of The Dragon Prince. The character that uses ASL is a general by the name of General Amaya. She's a really great character. I want to highlight some of the signs that she uses, the body language that she does it with, and sort of like hopefully learn something cool about my experiences with the deaf communities that I'm part of thanks to... Ah man, this intro is staking too long. Let's just get straight to it dude. Cartoons man and sign language. Like perfect combination. We don't need a preamble. Let's go straight into it. Hey, check this out. So the first season of The Dragon Prince was kind of rough in terms of translating the ASL that was in the show because the frame weight was so low. The frame rate was like 12 frames per second. There was so much stuff being missed in the cracks and the details and like the life of the characters being blocked up into like PowerPoint presentations. But now they've clearly addressed that issue. Frame weight is a lot higher and I think as a result it's been a lot easier to translate what's going on in the show. So good job guys for making those improvements. Let's work on lighting maybe and better contrast between like the hands and like brown hands that are covered with brown gloves behind a brown background. It makes it kind of hard to see. Like in this scene for example, General Maya is signing to a colleague of hers and she says, I see elves breached there. And it's kind of hard to see that. I'm not even sure if that's what she said. Let's write that down though. Let's see. And if I'm wrong, hey, I'm going to correct it. But let me know in the comments what you guys think. So I see elf, I think I see elf breached. And let's go to the next sign. We'll do a breakdown after we get this written down. Oh look, the points. There. That works. Oh she's angry. No, there's something wrong search group. Barely half of that. I saw wrong search group. Okay, so we're going to have to see this again. A little slower. A little slower. And hey, you know when you're learning ASL, receiving is the hardest part. Working with someone that can sign with you. So you can see the signs from a different perspective and different angle. Because you have to know the signs from your side, from your perspective, as well as from the perspective of the people that are signing to you. So reception is like one of the unspoken hardest parts of ASL. Particularly when it's done at angles that you're not familiar catching signs at. Like from the side, like in this angle, or like over the shoulder and stuff like that. So let's see. Let's back this up. But again, they're doing such a great job. This is actual ASL, it's great. So she says, I saw, I saw, or I see, an elf.  The clearer way of signing elf is like this, like elves, elves, but she's really saying pointy ear. And so instead of elf, she's saying pointy ear, but I'm interpreting it as elf here because she's talking about elves. Hey, this show's got elves in it, yo. I see elf, let's see what she's saying next. Breach, she's forming the breach, which is that, you know, Niagara Falls of Lava. There. There. This. It. Here. There. Right? That. She's indexing. So it's a combination of indexing and signing. Oh, there's some more. There's something, or there's something. You've got to catch those signs. There. Something. Wrong. So there's something wrong. How should I make the rest of the sentence? Oh, she doesn't. It's a brand new sentence. Cool. There's something wrong. This sign means set up. So think of it as like, hey, you're building a tent. You set up a tent. You're building something. You set up something. So it's related to like other signs that are about making something or forming something. So I established, I set up something like I made, I made, I hardcore made something. So like make, make this or set up, create, you know, generate, make, set up a search, set up a search group. I think she's what she's saying. So set up, set up, let's delete this and we'll get into the specifics. Set up, set up, search, search group. This is the sign for group. Just you're forming a mass around the group itself. So let's like search group. If you want to be very specific and I prefer this way, you make a G and you make another G. Letter and you make the group sign with the G's. So this is a group. If you make a P and you make the group sign, it becomes party. T, team, F, family, your classifying groups based on the letter that they start with. So like family, team, party, group or you can do group, general sense. So set up a search group and I think she does it this way. Again, again, no, there's something wrong. Set up a search, I'm sorry, set up a search group. And then she said before that, I see elf breach there, which is probably like, hey, I see some elves over there by the breach. And the other guy was like, no, no, no, no, there was nothing over there. And she was like, no, no, no, no, no. Or just like one thing, no, there's something wrong. Yeah, there's something wrong. Set up a search group. All right, let's move forward. Search group. Yeah, very understated the way how she did group. But you can see that she's signing it and then dropping her hands. All right. So they go over to the breach. Um, this is the search group. Here's the guy that they met over off the other side. He's like, hey, there's no problems here. Nothing to worry about. Don't mind me sweating. And meanwhile he's like, hey, behind me, behind me, there's a problem. So when I saw this, I thought this was originally danger, dangerous like this. But I think it could be actually a combination between danger and like behind me behind me. I think either works perfectly fine. So danger. Oh, no. Oh, no. There we go. I think it's safe to conclude that the outpost on this side remains secret. All right. So danger. There looks like this signal. The outpost. Something is behind me. You don't need it. You don't need an explanation for that. Okay. So yes, let's look at danger again. Yeah, signal was late. He's like behind me, behind me, behind me, behind me. I shouldn't have laughed. He's in dangerous situations. So is it dangerous behind me? I think it could be both. It works either way. The scene works either way. It's just one of those perfect moments. Behind me. Okay. Let's move on. What's next? Okay. She's fighting the elf ladies that are there. She's like, come at me, bro. But the thing is that is not an ASL sign. This is not an ASL sign. Actually, this is an ASL sign, but it doesn't mean come over here. This is a sign for come over here. Like, come fight me, bro. No, it's like, come over here, man. Come fight me. Come over here. You probably say with a more angry expression. Right. But we're like, get over here. Maybe. I don't know. But like, you know, come over here. Come here. But this in ASL actually means 15. The reason why it means 15. And this leads to a lot of confusion for me particularly. But a lot of numbers get abbreviated in ASL with the way how you express numbers. So like, this is 10. And this is 5. And instead of doing 10, 5, 10, 5, 10, 5, 10, 5, 10, 5, 10, 5, 10, 5, 10, 5, 10, 5, 15, 15, 15, 15. Same that. It evolved over time. Words, phrases, numbers, a lot of stuff in ASL gets abbreviated so that it can be signed more efficiently. And that's called economy of movement. So this actually means 15. Because you get the 10 and you get the 5 in like one quick sign. Right. And when I see this in like the fight scene, it's more of like a non-ASL use of the term of like, hey man, come fight me. But I just want to let you know that that actually is a sign in ASL. It just means something completely different. Interesting facts brought to you by me. 15. Or maybe she's like, dude, I can fight 15 of you. I'm not even getting started yet. Is that the best you got? True. There better be 14 more of you. All right. Here's a confusing one. Actually, it's not that confusing. It's just an adult joke. It's just signed very subtly. So let's explain the joke in the most clinical sense so that way we can save some time. Hero, king hero. Excuse me. Excuse me. My man, king hero makes a sign that looks like, you know, one other time do you see someone do this, right? Oh, no. I don't mean it like that. I meant more like proctor exam. Oh my gosh. Excuse me. Excuse me. Anyway, we're going through the same steps Amaya went through.  That's what's going on here. It looks like that. And look at the expression on General Amaya's face when she sees that. She's like, oh my gosh. Because she's like tuned into like the signing. So she's just like, oh my gosh. That sign look like, oh, but now I get it. So that's basically what she says in the scene. So right now she's just like, oh my gosh. Hey. Oh, again, another perfect opportunity. Remember what I was saying about economy of movement before. General Amaya is going HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA. A bit of a tangent, but this also means 13 because you have the 10, 3, 10, 3, 10, 3, 10, 3, 10, 3, 10, 3, 10, 3, 3, 13, 13, 13, 13, 13. So, like I said, um, economy movement sometimes leads to some confusing moments, but in the context of the situation, she's clearly making what she thinks light of the situation, so she's saying ha ha ha ha ha. Uh, let her continue. Hey man, that sign. That sign. That sign. Plus, that face is great. Uh, that sign. Uh, so this sign means like, okay, well, nope. That sign plus that face means like, okay, well, there you go. Or, generally, this is like, oh, I get it. It's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like, oh, I see now. Yeah? Like, oh, I see. Okay. Okay. Oh, I see. Or like, well, okay. Well, okay. I don't know. It's hard to sell that without sarcasm. But you need the, okay, so basically she's like, King Harold looks like he's sticking his fingers up a bum.  That sign. At first I was like, what am I looking at? But now I get it, right? That's basically what she's saying. So again, uh, King Harold looked like he was doing something weird. I saw that sign and I was like, oh my gosh. But now I'm like, oh my gosh, I finally get it. But whoa. That's the joke. It's not easy to translate into English. But I get it. It's funny. Everyone can laugh at that. Nothing. Little adult humor in my cartoons. It's great.  That sign was like, hmm, I don't know. The face really sells the joke. If that makes any sense. Like, if she was just like that sign, oh I see. Uh, it doesn't belie the impression that she had a completely different impression of what that sign originally meant. So with that face combined, it adds the dynamic of like, well at first I was like, well, now I get it.  Okay, let's move on. Uh, there she's just miming throwing spears. I don't know if that, so you can sign throw like this. But I think she just sent it out. Oh. Nice. So when I do, so I've taught my cat some tricks and I use ASL sometimes to like teach him to sit, you know, like roll over and all that stuff. Uh, he, when he does tricks that are good, I do this. It's like, hey, good job. Wonderful. That's what the sign means. Like, great. Good job. Wonderful. Um, if you're saying good job, it could be a little different. So like, good J-O-O-B. But again, you have economy of movement. So sometimes you'll see good job, like good job.   So good job. Right. Um, and then you can say like, hey, wonderful. Good job. Oh, good job. Hey, good job. Good job, you. So she's doing the same thing too. She's like, hey, good job. We did it. I love that. That's great. Also that bow staff must be the lightest thing in the world that she can do. Physics. Physics Tyrone. Look at that. Good job. Look how much that bow staff is wavering. That's hard. That's hard to do. That's good for strength. Um, sister. She says sister.  I'm not going to dwell. It's still accurate. How my. Oh, I didn't get that. How. I think she said face. So I think she's like, how's my face? Give me a second. How face. She did say how face. Like, I guess it's a question. Sometimes I get these words that I'm like, okay, I got the words, but how do I even make that into a sentence? Okay. And I don't want to restart the video. So let's how, how about this? How, let me make sure that was the end of it. Yep, that was the end of it. So she says how, and there's different ways you can say how. I like this way. How, but you can also use one hand. How face like, look. What's my, how's my face look? How's my face look like? Like these, these words don't make, it's not a good translation to English, but if you're like in English, you'd be like, what's my face look like? Right? What's my face look like? Or like, how's my face? It's a combination between those two in English. And if I was signing this myself, I would probably swap look and like so that you get look like. So how face look like, or look like, right? That way it's just easier for me in my head to say it so that I get interpreted as well. If I was signing to someone who spoke English, would we talk? I would sign it like how face look like. And I don't even know if you're always signing to someone that's deaf if I'd sign it. How face like look. That's just an awkward way of signing it. Honest with you. It's an awkward sentence. It's just a weird awkward sentence. But generally it means, as far as like, hey, you actually used real signs, you put them together, I'm fine with it. What's my face look like, man? I just, I just survived a huge battle. I got a giant head trauma, facial scar. My words might be jumbled up a little bit. Just tell me how they look. I get that, I get that. So we'll give, we'll give it a pass. Not great. Straight to the point. So not, same thing as I showed before. This is wonderful. There's a lot of different ways of showing wonderful. I like, hey, good job. Good job. Wonderful. Great. You can do this as well. It's like, great, great. So she's saying, not great. You can also do that with just your face. Not great. You don't even have to say not. So like, I think she said, and I'm going to go back and verify, but like, not great. Actually, I think there was some other signs in there too. Let me, let me just double check.   Face. Face look like, ah, there is one little thing. Just like, eh. Eh, not great. Excuse me. It's not great. Eh, not great. She said, she signs that out. It's wonderful. Not great. You should see other. See other. This means other. Other or else, else. See other. I don't know what that means. Let's go back. Let's go back and double check. How face like, look. Eh, not great. Hey, but you should see other. I'm going to have to see that one more time. Eh, not great. So what's hard is, I can't tell if I'm doing something because it's so dark. So like her hands are so dark and this is the same color as that. It's just weird. It's hard to see. But I think she says boy. I'm going to see, she says boy. She meant like, you should see the other boys maybe? I don't know. You should see the other boy. Eh, not great. Let's see. I'm trying to translate this. You should see other boy. Eh, eh, not great. But you should see the other boy. You should see the other boy. Other boy. Boys? Maybe? That's what she's saying. So I might as like, how's my face? And she's like, that's not great. But you should, you should go see the other boys. And I think the scene just got cut off to a little bit too short plus the contrast wasn't really great. But again, if I were going to sign this, I'd say like, oh my gosh. Uh, my face looks like, what? There's a show and go like, like that.  But relax. You know, relax. Uh, you should, you should see the other boys.  Alright, so it's all good. I think she's trying to make her feel better. See other boy. See other boy. Yeah, I think it's like, you should see everybody else. Like, don't worry about you. Everyone else looks like a piece of work too. It's all good. Okay, let's move on to the last couple of scenes we're almost done with this video. Oh, look how I like that bo-staff some of the guy. Yeah, if they just made the hands a lighter color than the, on the outfit, like a white or like gold, like these ribbons here, it'd be way easier to pick out what they're saying as they're saying it like the first time through. Alright, let's see what do we got? Last couple of scenes. You don't need Whisper Eye Def, dude. It'll be okay. Once I rest a bit, I can make it back by myself. We won't leave you here alone. I'll stay with the money. We'll make it whole together. Everyone else should take the heart back. They agree. Times of vessels. No. That's pretty good translation, I think. That's pretty good. Let's make sure we got it right. Okay, so you don't need to. Let's talk about that real quick. This sign, while it means need, could also mean should, you must, you ought to. And it's really just in the face and the context of how you use it. So like, you don't need to or you don't, oh, and I'll, we'll do one thing at a time. But like, the context of the situation determines whether or not it's like a need or should. This is can, which is a completely different word that, or using a completely different context, but need, should, must, ought, it's like this. I need to do this. You need to do this. So it's directional. She needs to do this. He needs to do that. I need to do this, but you need to do blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. If you use your face at the same time too, you can make it from a need to don't need. So you can even be like, you don't need to do that. It's like, do I need this? It's like, you don't need it. Like, right? But I think she says don't need. So you don't need, or she kind of does it kind of like in a sly way. So it's like, you don't need it. You don't need it. You don't need to, and that's how she's phrasing it. So don't not, you don't need to, and the way, and so this is where, this is why I'm bringing this up. It's a little redundant, right? Because she's already directing need to the person, but she starts off the sentence with you. So you don't need, you don't need, it's a silly thing. So as a summary, you could actually say you don't need, all in just one gesture, or one sign. It's like, you don't need to. Like, right? That means you don't need to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. You don't have to sign it like you don't need to, but you could if you wanted to. You could do either one. It's fine. But I know Amaya uses a lot of abbreviated phrases, and she speaks in a sort of like stoic, laconic sort of way. So it's interesting that she's talking like this now. I'm thinking either, one, they got a different person to do the signing for this season, and that's why a lot of the signs, why there's probably not as many signs in this season compared to the first, or the signs come out a little differently. Like in some cases with like, what does my face look like? It looks like they're a little bit off. Like this thing going on here, like that's not typically ASL sign. But the other thing is, maybe it's just a circumstance where Amaya's led her guard down now that they've won the battle. So she's a little bit more verbose with the way how she speaks. So it could just be a character dynamic as well too. It's kind of interesting. But yeah, you don't need to whisper. Whispers like this. So like yelling yell. Right? Talk. Hey, I'm talking. I'm talking. I'm a talking person. Talk. Talk. Whisper. So you don't need to whisper, right? I'm veering deaf. I'm deaf. Dude. She's like, I'm deaf. Come on. It'll be okay. Okay. Oh, she's still signing. Give me a second. I'm deaf. By the way, General Amaya's deaf. All the people, all the snowflakes on Tumblr are like, she's not deaf. She just likes talking with her hands. She's a powerful lady. Dude, you can be deaf and be a powerful person at the same time too. That's why I like the show. That's the whole point of the show. Let's have a fun time, guys. Let's appreciate the fact that we actually have a great representation of a deaf character on TV or Netflix, whatever you want to call it. All right. It'll be okay. She signs okay. Once I rest a bit, I can make it back by myself. Oh, my gosh. There are a lot of signs there. So I will rest, B-A-C-K, and that's all I caught. So let's get that. So I think we saw the last part of okay. Okay. Rest, B-A-C-K. Let's back up. It'll be okay. Once I rest a bit, I can make it back by myself. Oh, man. We got to slow that down just a little bit. One more time. Yes. I think she says good back myself or something like that. It'll be okay. Okay. Once I rest. Oh. Okay. Rest, bit. Rest a little. Rest a little. Just a bit. Good. Good. I can make it back by myself. Myself. Myself. Okay. Rest a little. Good. Back myself. I know she's like, I'm okay. I'll rest a little. No. Sorry, you guys can't see that. She says myself. I'm okay. I'll rest a little. Head back when I'm good. Good. Back. It's so hard to translate these things now. Then back. Let's see. So she's like, let's break down the signs. Okay. Rest a little. Then when I'm good, I'll go B-A-C-K. Myself. So like, let me make sure I just got that right. Jeff. He's all like, I didn't know she was deaf. Did everyone hear that? It'll be okay. Okay. Rest a little. I can make it back by myself. I'll go back by myself. We won't leave you there. I think it's missing some words there, but that's fine. They got a lot of signs in there. Oh my gosh. If I critique it, I feel like I have to explain what I would do differently. But to be honest with you, I think they did a really good job here. So I would still say, it's okay. I'm going to rest. Or I can say rest. This means sleep or nap. I'm going to rest a little. And I'll be good. I will be good. Then I'll go B-A-C-K. This weird phrase, like how would I go back? I would return. I'd go back myself. Or I'll follow you guys after I rest or something like that. There's a lot of different ways you could say that. Okay, rest a little good. Back myself. B-A-C-K myself. See, it's the B-A-C-K that's kind of throwing me off. Because she could just say return or go back home. You know what? I'm going to call it. It's all right. It's good. It works. It works. But it's just an awkward way of saying it. I do wonder if they got a different sign language person for this season compared to what they had in the first one. Or if they had like a pair of sign language people in the first season, did they rely on one more than the other? Because the phrasing is a little jumbled, right? And a little bit more... I'll explain it like this. There are a lot of different kind of deaf communities. And they're characterized by the people that are inside of them. Sometimes you have people that have family members that aren't deaf. And so the way how they sign is more reliant on how we speak as English speakers. So they may sign in a format that's very consistent with English grammar. Or they may sign words that are really, really short. Because they may not know the alternatives that are standard in ASL. Like back versus return. Or like go home or stuff like that. And like okay, B-A-C-K. That is very different from how General Amaya was signing in the first season. And General Amaya's signing in first season is just like three words. You know what I'm saying. Very stylish signs too. And on the borderline from stylish to very straightforward. And in this season it's been a little bit more like different. It's more as if it's affected by working around people that use like exact English spelling. Or that the words got mixed up a little bit sometimes too. But you know what, I had a good time. I think more or less that's the end. And just putting it all in context is a little weird. I think the signing is a little different from this season compared to the last season. I still think it's great quality. But it feels as if it's coming from a different person. And I'm saying that only from the sense of how iconic she was in the first season. Like straightforward attitude. Body language I'm ready to go. But here it's different. And it could just be the fact that you know it's a younger General Amaya. Maybe she's a little bit more Lucy Goosey with the way how she's signing. And if that's the case, man, that's really well done. Because it does feel like she's a different person in this season. So that's kind of cool. It's cool that just from the way how someone stylistically chooses how to sign. That they would come up with, you know, with almost a different personality. And she does not seem as stern and as serious in this flashback as she does, you know, in the future. In the present tense of whether the show is taking place. So like flashback Amaya definitely does joke around more. Definitely does speak with a little that's a little bit like, Wow, why would you put them in this? Why would you use these words in this order? But it's still sort of like the keyword pigeon sort of signing that I've grown accustomed with her using. So I think it works. It works is fine. And yeah, we had some really good times, at least in this video, or at least in the season with the jokes that she was using, the signs that she was interpreting. But there were some weird things going on. Like this thing really threw me off. I'm just like, what? Like, I get it. You're cool. But like what? And then anyway, I'm happy. I want to see more of the character. That's basically what I'm saying. Let's see more dynamics of how she signs and get a really cool impression of who she is as a person. And as a character as well. And spend more time anyway. That's it guys. I had a fun time. I hope you guys had a fun time too. I hope the lighting was a little nice. You can see more stuff and more summaries of the ASL that's used in the show. But what I would really recommend is that you check out the show itself on Netflix. I think the third season is dropping later this year, maybe around September. And I will be there and I'll be translating because I love the show. All right. See you guys later. Bye.


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