you've spent a lot of effort setting up the nodes, running some experiments, analyzing the network and security.  What are your options? Of course you can power off the nodes. Let's try that on node 3. We can simply use the command to shut down gracefully the Linux computer. Pseudo power off and password is necessary network. Node 3 will be shut down so tomorrow when we come in we need to boot that up. Now note it takes some time for the nodes to boot sometimes so that's maybe not the best option but node 3 is powered off. Node 2 if you don't want to do it from the command line you can sort of pull the plug on the computer. You can simply say power off here and like pulling the plug on a computer you may lose some data but it shouldn't be a problem in most cases. Power off node 2 but again because we often don't want to have to reboot them and wait for them maybe the best option is to save their state. So don't power them off. With VirtuaBox we can just save where they're currently running so the next time we want to start we just start from where we left off. So to do so the node 1 is running right click close it but choose save state. Save state will save that node so if I wanted to start node 2 I'd have to boot the Linux computer again it would take some time but to start node 1 we would just click start now it's saved. It restores it from a file and we're automatically logged in to node 1 and we have we can take off from where we finished last time. So the best way I recommend if you want to shut down the nodes don't shut them down save their state so you can start them fresh next time. If you want to get rid of them and you'd no longer need with the configuration then you can shut them down close either save state or power off and if you want to start from scratch the best way is just delete them. Select them all remove delete all the files and the next time you'll need to run the command script to clone the base again now that will take time but it's a way to to refresh everything and now we can run our script to recreate a new topology or an existing topology but it'll be fresh.


All right, I wanted to talk about the FDA. I've talked a lot about the FDA over COVID, but there was an excellent article. Let me just find it. Where is it? I know I saved it. Here it is. All right, this is excellent article. By somebody I've recommended to you before, Scott Alexander, I highly recommend you subscribe to Substack. Astro Codex 10, Astro Codex 10, or just look up Scott Alexander. He's very insightful. He's a psychiatrist in Silicon Valley, writes about all kinds of topics. Half the time, you'll completely disagree with him and hate him, and half the time, he's brilliant. It's worth it to subscribe for the half time that he's really good. Anyway, he's done an article this last week which I thought was just perfect. It just, I mean, almost perfect. It was like almost there. It, ugh. Unfortunately, on economic issues is kind of a little left of center which doesn't allow him to go all the way with the logic that he was getting to the right point about the FDA. Almost got there and couldn't quite make it. Anyway, give you a little bit of background. The FDA has approved the drug, an Alzheimer's drug. It's called, I can't pronounce it. I do helm, adu helm. It's approved as adu helm drug. Now, the drug assumes that Alzheimer's is caused by something called amyloid plaques that form in the brain as you get older. Now, this theory of amyloid plaques causing Alzheimer's is very controversial and probably untrue. And this drug targets the plaque and supposedly destroys this plaque that's forming in the brain. But the relationship between that and curing or preventing or slowing down Alzheimer is very, very tenuous. Anyway, the FDA approved the drug. I don't see why not. But this has caused a huge backlash against the FDA because it's a very expensive drug and it's a drug that probably doesn't work. So everybody's complaining. It's a $50,000 a year per patient drug. Now, there's the big question of who pays for this. We don't know because all our prices in our drug, in the drug world are hidden from us. We have no idea who pays for it. You know, is it the patients pay for it? Probably not. The insurance company, some, did they pay for it through higher premiums to whom? The taxpayers pay for it, some because it's through Medicare and Medicaid. The hospitals pay for it. The hospitals raise, the hospitals pay for it, but then raise the cost on everybody else. So does everybody else pay for it? Patients who don't have Alzheimer's pay for the Alzheimer's drug because the hospitals charge more for other things because they don't have a competitive market so they can do that. So, you know, we have this crazy healthcare system in the United States that's completely irrational. Completely makes no sense. It's a mixed economy in healthcare and a really terrible mixture. So we have these expensive drugs and nobody knows who pays for them and where they come from and anything like that. Anyway, there's this big backlash against the FDA and against its fast-track program, a fast-track program that if you remember the vaccines were approved under. And of course there's a lot of backlash from the anti-vaxxers. And from even people who have vaccinated against the fast-track with the assumption that it wasn't tested enough, there wasn't enough testing, it wasn't safe enough, this is experimenting on millions of people, all this garbage. Anyway, The Atlantic magazine came out with a paper saying the FDA has eroding standards. They're way too lax. They're way too easy. They're releasing all these drugs that are dangerous. The FDA is too strict according to The Atlantic magazine and many others. They criticize a program that was passed in 1992 that allowed for accelerated approval on the basis of surrogate markers, which are indirect measures of a drug's benefit assessed by laboratory or imaging tests that stand in for more meaningful outcomes such as life expectancy. But the implementation of these accelerated processes was criticized by some scientists and patients even at the time. In 1984, for example, da-da-da-da-da-da-da, right? The New York Times cited skeptics who worried that no one can tell if the drug works.  Anthony Fauci, a pulp pushing pimp. This is the left, the left called Fauci, a pulp pill pushing pimp for supporting CD4 immune cell counts and viral loads as surrogate markers. They were completely invalid. The activists wrote and nothing more than a marketing exec's wet dream. What's funny about this is that the aid drugs actually worked. Not only did they save the lives of tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of potential AIDS victims. They worked. They made it possible for people who have AIDS to continue living a normal life. It's, you know, so yes, this thing was criticized, but hey, it worked. An Atlantic magazine admits that it worked. So what are they suggesting? That the FDA should be stricter and not have allowed the drugs that actually saved the lives of tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of eight patients over the years and allowed them to go back to normal life. I mean, that's insanity. They save, according to this article actually, AIDS drugs saved tens of thousands of lives annually if you look at the world as a whole. If they had not expedited the drug review for those drugs, people, tens of thousands of people over the world would be dead. I mean, coronavirus vaccines is another example. These were expedited. I think they've saved the lives of thousands, tens of thousands, I don't know. Ultimately on a global scale, probably hundreds of thousands, millions, tens of millions, hard to tell, lot of people. And yet this Atlantic magazine article says, no, no, no, no, we shouldn't have expedited reviews. And you're seeing this on the right as well. People are suspicious. Don't trust the drug companies. Don't trust the FDA. Don't trust anybody. Every study that has looked at FDA approvals over the years, how many lives, you know, and a cost-benefit analysis of you, suggests that the FDA releases too few drugs, that too few drugs are allowed expedited, that the FDA is way too conservative, way too strict. And indeed, as we'll discuss in a bit, it's completely expected. There's no conspiracy here. It's built into the incentive structure that people at the FDA have. The FDA is way, way, way too conservative if you value human life, if that's your standard. It should be approving many, many, many more drugs. And not to mention the drugs that never actually get investigated, never actually go up before the FDA because who wants to spend a billion dollars, a billion dollars per drug to get approval, particularly if it's a drug that's gonna affect only a few people's lives, like rare diseases or small diseases or rare forms of cancer or whatever. Nobody's gonna do that. Yet people complain that the FDA is not conservative enough. So let's look at coronavirus at COVID. Let's look at the FDA's track record with coronavirus. Now I'm gonna read you from the article by Scott Alexander because he says everything that I've been saying for 16, 18 months, it's as if he listened to my show. I don't think he does. But it's just that these facts are just there. Anybody can attain them and rational people are slowly starting to figure this out. And again, I've been saying this basically since April of last year. I'm gonna read from Scott Alexander's piece. The countries that got through COVID the best that is South Korea and Taiwan controlled it through test and trace. This allowed them to scrap by with minimal lockdown and almost no deaths. But it only worked because they started testing and tracing really quickly. Almost the moment they learned that the coronavirus existed. Could the US have done equally well? I think, yes, he says, me too. A bunch of laboratories, universities and healthcare groups came up with COVID tests before the virus was even in the US and were 100% ready to deploy them. But when the US declared that the coronavirus was a quote public health emergency, the FDA announced that the emergency was so grave that they were banning all coronavirus testing so that nobody could take advantage of the emergency to deploy shoddy tests. It was such an emergency, no testing. Perhaps you might feel like this is exactly the opposite of what you should do during an emergency. This is a sure sign that you will never work for the FDA. This is Scott Alexander writing. The FDA supposedly had some plan in place to get non shoddy coronavirus tests. For a while, this plan was to send your samples to the CDC in Atlanta. We'll allow it if and only they do it directly in their headquarters. But the CDC headquarters wasn't set up for large-scale testing and the turnaround time to send samples to Atlanta meant that people had days to go around spreading the virus before results got back. After this proved inadequate, the FDA allowed various other things. They told labs that they would offer emergency approval for their kits, but placed such onerous requirements on getting the approval that almost no lab could achieve it. For example, you needed to prove you tested it against many different coronavirus samples, but it was so early in the pandemic that most people didn't have access to several different versions of the virus. Then they approved a CDC kit which the CDC could send to places other than the headquarters, but this kit contained an effective component and returned positive every time. That effective component was easy to replace, but if you use your own copy like a cowboy, your own copy like a cowboy, you replaced it, right? Then the test wouldn't be FDA approved anymore and you could lose your license for administering it. The FDA did everything in their power to get us not to test. Early February, late January, February, March, I continue. A group called the Association of Public Health Laboratories literally begged the FDA to be allowed to deploy the COVID test they had sitting on the shelves ready to use. The head of the APHL went to the head of the FDA and begged them in what they described as an extraordinary and rare request to be allowed to test for coronavirus. The FDA head just rolled back saying that, quote, false diagnostic test results can lead to significant adverse public health consequences, unquote, unbelievable. Is any head gonna roll here? Is any investigation gonna be done? Is anybody gonna look into this?  What about CDC, FDA, Department of Health, President maybe, the incompetence of the administration when COVID started, continuing. So everyone sat on the defective of FDA approved coronavirus tests and the excellent high quality non-FDA approved corona tests that were banned from using and didn't test anyone for coronavirus. Meanwhile, American citizens who had recently visited Wuhan and other COVID hotspots started falling sick and asking their doctors or health departments whether they had COVID. Since the FDA had essentially banned testing, those departments told their citizens that they couldn't help and they should just use their best judgment. Most of those people went out and interacted and spread the virus and incidents started growing exponentially. By March one, China was testing millions of people a week. South Korea tested 65,000 a week and the U.S. had done a total, grand total. March one, March one, six, seven weeks after the Trump administration knew the coronavirus was out there and it was out. In March one, the USA had done a grand total of 459 coronavirus tests. Again, South Korea 65,000, China millions. The pandemic in these three countries went pretty much how you would expect based on those numbers. There were so, so many chances to avert this. The New York Times did a great article on Dr. Helen Chu. I talked about Helen Chu on my show. A doctor in Seattle who was running a study on flu prevalence back in February 2020 when nobody thought the coronavirus was in the U.S. She realized that she could test her flu samples for coronavirus. Did it and sure enough discovered that COVID had reached the United States already. The FDA spun into action, awarded her a medal for her initiative and no, no, they shut her down because they hadn't approved her lab for coronavirus testing.  And we have no idea whether how or where the coronavirus was spreading on the U.S. West Coast for several more weeks. This is nutty, insane, or you could even argue criminal. 600,000 Americans plus or minus have probably died from the coronavirus and it was all preventable. All of it, at least a significant majority of it was preventable. Although the FDA did kill thousands of people by unnecessary delaying COVID tests, at least it also killed thousands of people by necessarily delaying COVID vaccines, which I mean talking about and John Cochran has been talking about for months. I'll let you click on the links for the details. He gives links for all the details of the botched coronavirus vaccine program. Except to remind you that they still have not officially granted full approval to single COVID vaccine. And the only reason we can get these at all is through provisional approvals that they wouldn't have granted without so much political pressure. The one good thing that the Trump administration did was put pressure on the FDA to get provisional approval for the vaccines. Now here's the kicker. I worry that people are going to come away from this with some conclusion, like wow, the FDA seems really unprepared to handle COVID. No, it's not that specific. Every single thing the FDA does is like this. This is Scott Alexander, left of center on economics. This is not some libertarian, some objectivist writing.  And the only reason you never hear about the others is because they're about some disease with a name like Chomo's syndrome and a few hundred cases nationwide instead of something big and media worthy like coronavirus. He says, I am a doctor. And sometimes I have to deal with Chomo's syndrome of the world. And every frigging time, there is some story about FDA doing something exactly this awful and culture productive. And you could go on and on and on. I mean, he has another example of sure.  It's ridiculous. A while back I learned about colostasis in infant short bowel syndrome, a rare condition with only a few hundred cases nationwide. Babies cannot digest food effectively, but you can save their lives by using an IV line to direct nutrients directly into their veins. But you need to use the right nutrient fluid. The FDA approved one version of the nutrient fluid, but it caused some problems, especially liver damage. These are babies. Drawing on European research, some scientists suggested that a version with fish oil would cause less liver damage, but the fish oil version wasn't FDA approved. A bunch of babies kept getting liver damage and everyone knew how to stop it. But if anyone did stop it, the FDA would take away their licenses and shut them down. Around 2010, Boston Children's Hospital found some loophole and let them add fish oil to their nutrient fluid onsite. And infants with short bowel syndrome at that one hospital stopped getting liver damage and the FDA grudgingly agreed to permit it, but banned them from distributing their formulation or letting it cross state lines. So for a while, if you wanted your baby to get a decent treatment for this condition, you had to have them spend their infancy in one specific hospital in Massachusetts. Around 2015, the FDA said that if your doctor applied for special exemption, they would let you import the fish oil, nutritional fluid from Europe. But you were only able to apply after your baby was getting liver disease, liver damage. And the FDA might just say, no. Finally in 2018, the FDA got around to proving the corrected nutritional fluid and now babies with short bowel syndrome do fine. After 20 years of easily preventable state mandated damage and death. And it's not just this and coronavirus. And this he puts in all bold. I cannot stress enough how typical this is of everything the FDA does all the time. It's unbelievable. If this doesn't make you angry, this is your health. These are your children. This is your old age. This is you getting sick and not having the drugs because these bastards, these bureaucratic bastards won't let you have access to it. These are the drugs that never get developed because of the FDA. Now, Scott goes on to explain why this happens. And I've said this on the show many times. It's cause of the incentive structure. And the strength structure is simple. If the FDA approves a drug, then, and something goes wrong, the FDA gets reamed. They get, oh, this, they might actually lose a job. This huge press, huge involvement. Also, if the FDA approves a drug, insurance companies must fund the drug. Medicare, Medicaid must fund the drug. So even if they approve drugs that are expensive but not very good, like the one in Alzheimer's, suddenly the cost of healthcare goes up because we have a system where once a drug is approved by the FDA, insurance companies have to by regulation and Medicare, Medicaid have to pay for it, which is insanity. So he talks about, let's unbundle this. Unbundle all the things that the FDA is responsible for. So instead of FDA approving a drug and it's legal for doctors to prescribe it and it's mandatory for insurances to cover a drug, what about the FDA just saying it's legal for doctors to prescribe the drug but insurance companies just have to you whether you're gonna use it or not. If something doesn't have FDA approval, then doctors can't prescribe it and insurance companies clearly won't pay for it but if something does have FDA approval, any moron can get it. I'm reading again from this article just because they saw TV ads saying it was a hot new thing and the government insurance, other patients will be forced to cover the entire price.  The FDA has approved it, it must be good. And you take the doctor's judgment out of it, doctors under pressure by patients and by drug companies to write prescriptions for drugs even when they think it's not appropriate because of the incentive structures. And then the side effects, they don't approve it because of the side effects. So Scott Alexander goes through all of this and he explains it beautifully. I mean, really, I highly recommend you read this. He explains all of this. And then he basically says we need unbundles we have to restructure the FDA and restructure the incentives. And he comes very, very close to saying it should be privatized and there should be competition but he can't go there. He can't quite go there but he comes so close. So let me just say, I encourage you to read it. I encourage you to write to him, encourage him to think about privatization and not wimp out about it. It truly is a great article. It's one of the best on a topic like this and yeah, support this guy. Astro Codex 10, that is Scott Alexander. What we need today, what I call the new intellectual would be any man or woman who is willing to think. 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Dude, I have gone back to the last episode and watched Chopper cheering for Luffy several times already. Just like, No Luffy! The chaos on Punk Hazard continues and now this giant poisonous slime monster is part of the mix. We're gonna hop right into it. If you're new to the channel, don't forget to drop a sub and let's get started. Yes, he did. Do you know how many people have said that? Young man? And failed? Oh. Storm... Atta boy, Frankie's back, baby! Frankie is back! They never even stood a chance, I almost feel bad. Also because they're brownbeard's crew and they don't even know what has happened and occurred to their poor captain. And they've also all been manipulated into fighting for Caesar. Capture this all hands, bro! Bro, I understand why he says that, but bro! He's so gung-ho on capturing Luffy, man. Doesn't stand a chance, either. Not against any of them. Especially not in his own body. Yeah, I need a Chopper keychain now. Just like that. Just let it be. He's starting to get it! He's starting to be like, yep, just let it be. Well, could he teleport through the door? And he can just displace himself to the other side of the room. That is insane, bro. That is insane! So cute. Okay, okay. Frankie, a little overkill, bro! He's just dead now! Where's the mess? Yeah, why isn't he outside? Yeah, I doubt, like I said last episode, that Caesar clown will come outside. He seems like more of the snake type and he's gonna slither around. Probably until Smiley gets here. Oh my gosh. You don't stand a chance. I'm sorry. Smoky! Especially being in Smoker's body, she's not used to it. I shouldn't stand a chance before, though. It's just Luffy's Luffy now. He's just even more cracked. Oh no. Oh no. You can't do anything! They just have to ride it out! Can he just put them back to sleep? Is that a good idea? I guess you gotta do what you gotta do. Oh, these poor kids, man. Well, they're not. Or they have giant strength. Oh no. I'm shocked that they aren't Caesar's priority, like getting them back. Oh my gosh. I mean, maybe they are and we just haven't even found out yet, but it seems like his priority was letting Smiley out. You just gotta keep riding it out. The longer they go without the drug, the better they'll be. Just like little kids having withdrawals is just rough to watch, man. I'm glad you're okay! Beating you up? Wait, where? Is it Marine Ford? Or was he talking about just here on Punk Hazard? He doesn't realize that it's not Smoker. Oh, she's trying to control the smoke! He's just without, without any... With hockey! He can like grab the smoke now! Oh my gosh. You sound strange. I don't blame him for not putting two and two together. Now there's Smoker! He's not gonna put it together. I guarantee it. Smoker, you're gonna have to explain it to him. He's going to be very confused for the next couple of minutes.  You've grown quite talented! What did I say? What did I say? Smoker, you look so different! Thank you, Robin! Oh my gosh, it would have taken forever. It would have actually just, it never would have stopped. Oh my gosh. Luffy's so adorable, man. Now he knows not to mess around with what is Toshiki, but it's actually Smoker. I honestly wish that he could fight in like, like Smoker's actual form to see who would come out on top. It'd be interesting. Because I mean, Smoker was getting him to see Prism like in Toshiki's body. Imagine with his smoke. Well, like I said, it's very like, they made it a point to show that he can grab the smoke now. It's like instant, instant transition! My gosh, never mind. Luffy's got it. Luffy was just underestimating Toshiki because he didn't realize it was a Smoker. Can't use all your strength. Smoker knows that Luffy is right though. He can't use his devil fruit. He's gonna blast the lab! Oh, nice. Wait, that was so precise. That's a radical beam. Oh, what is it this time? Is that a piece of Smiley? But was it launching itself? Wait, no. It's not the entirety of Smiley, right? No, Smiley's way bigger. Oh my gosh, it's literally just a bit of it. If they saw a mountain flying at them, it would be a different story. Like I said though, I don't know how you deal with that. Wait, and can it move around in those chunks too? Like act separately? That's even worse, if so. He's just chomping! My boy from Texas for real! What was he emitting the poisonous gas? Whoa, that is horrendous to fight. Like, I don't think you can even kill that. So, why would you deal damage to it? It expused the gas. Expuse? Is that a word? Expells. What is that? None of them will know because it was in that warehouse. The people that unleashed it didn't know. Dude, they do act on their own. Little slime babies. And it just puts itself back together. Is there like some core you could destroy? There has to be some semblance that keeps it like all alive. Pushing it into the river. Rose gonna touch it? Really? Oh my gosh, man. You can't be serious. That has to be a painful, painful death. I'm surprised he's alive. Wait, what is this? A flame thrower! Okay, yeah, sure, let's try everything. I love how they're just running tests on the slime here. Uh... Is it? Is it reacting? Clearly, it's suffering. Oh, it looks kind of sad. Wait, stop! Oh, shoot. Bro, if only Ace were here, man! Wait, did it blow up because of the fire? Because it was dying. So it can just combust, too? Dang, they all died. Like, instantly, probably. Holy... Jeez, man. Even they- Oh, yeah, I guess. Yeah, the animal link said no. If you burn it, it explodes. I guess that makes sort of sense because it was made from an explosion originally. It's gone now. Clueless. Bro, just a piece falling in the background. What a good way to introduce it, like, getting to this side of the island, though. Just another piece of it. Don't realize how much there is. But like I said- Oh, my gosh! Like I said, though, can Caesar control it? This seems like just an entity. It's slowly just shooting parts of it over. Oh, my gosh. Just watching as it launches over. I mean, it could do this for hours, weeks, months. There's so much of it. Uh-oh. God, dang it. Zoro's gonna cut it, and it's gonna- Oh, nope. He didn't. Maybe now he will. We'll see it explode. So does it only expel the gas if you cut it or shoot it? Look, it looks sad. Why is it called Smiley? Say Smilings. You can play opposite. Looks like unhappy to be alive. What? They hear him? Wait, is he out? Oh, shoot! I underestimated you, Caesar! Bro, I was like, he's not coming out. He's not showing himself.  Oh, shoot. Bro, final boss is here. Why, yes! Yes, indeed. I guess he can confront them because he doesn't expect any of them to make it off the island. So it's like there's no point in not. Guy's so cool, though. Cover? It's part of the ship. Week to water. Mmm, interesting. I don't know why he would just announce to them what it's weak to, but I mean, I guess it's for us. It makes way more sense why it's launching itself too. When the pieces reach, it'll just all form into one. It'll be what happened four years ago, 2.0. Yep. Just gonna wipe the island. And I guess he would be fine because he's gas. He's like, I guess like made of poison. I don't know. He probably has some plan. There's no way law knew about this, though. So it can't be what he was referring to, the thing that would wreak havoc in the new world. Maybe it was the fact that he's making those kids giants. I like how he presented himself, though. That's my captain, bro. Caesar Clown learning very quickly who Luffy is. And again, I've underestimated him. He made quite the entrance by 97. So what is Zoro's group gonna do? It's all I think and probably take down the actual smiley. Dude on the ground. So he's read about this. I guess some version of a slime. Bro, don't let Sanji know about this book. Oh, wait, he's literally talking to Sanji. My God, this body, dude. This body swap is getting too confusing, man. Oh, some land in the water. It's like smoking. The fish are dying. Oh my gosh. It's just poisoning the whole lake. And his torso is in the lake. Oh my gosh.  But when you take the clothes off, it turns back into like what it was. Bro, Sanji brave as frick, man. Oh my gosh, respect. This is so funny. I'm surprised he's wearing the risk Nami's body like this. They're surrounding him. Sorry. Yep. Actually, that's true. Yeah. Go Sanji, go. I love how quiet Zoro is, by the way. Yeah, he's gonna owe them man for real. It could be anywhere. Yes, ice cold and poisonous. They're kind of cute. I mean, if you cut them poisonous gas comes out. Yeah, dude, if they make it out of this fine, this samurai is going to owe them a big favor. Oh shoot. Oh shoot. Watching the fight outside. Is this Chopper in there? I was gonna say he's leaving. I'm surprised he doesn't just attack her. Oh shoot. Oh, I mean, he needs to get her out of there so Chopper can investigate. Maybe he will go just like knock her out or something. Oh wait, actually, yeah. He's like, dude, something wasn't losing his mind. Okay, back to this. Yeah, he caught him, I guess. If only Law could see this. Yeah, dude, because he was hockey, he just grabbed the gas. And like I said, it already teased that with Smoker. I don't know about easily though. And I mean, Cesar Klan isn't the main objective anymore. Like I said, smiley, you have to worry about smiley now.  He probably thought he had this like unlock. Nobody was here to even remotely that could match him. He just did his bell. Oh my gosh, I was on some damage. Gas robe. Oh my gosh. Well, that looks crazy. Can't get away from it or what? He's gonna slam into him using against him. For a rose seed, what, to see Luffy die?  In the... What does Cesar think about this? So well, it gets me now, I guess. Oh, it like builds up an immunity. Brother. Brother, Luffy gets stronger by the episode. Cesar Klan is like, this is an Avengers level threat. Oh my gosh. Oh, he just like a obliterated Caesar. Do you guys see this?  You see this, right? And he announced that it's going to destroy everything again. Beaklings, you think we're weak? What? What? Wait, what? What? My gosh, man. Bro, his breath is shaking. I mean, he's being matched. What is that?  Gastonet. What? Brother, what? Brother, what was? It's the baby ones. Aw, dude, they are kind of cute. I won't lie. Oh, never mind. A little creepy now. Brother. This for real is Magellan 2.0. Oh my gosh. It's like the scene in The Incredibles with the balls jumping on him. Oh, they're like trapping him. Oh, that's right. Could he like harden his entire body? Dude, Gastonet is busted. Gastonet is so busted. I don't even understand what these little clappers are. He just activated? Oh my goodness. Wait, he could actually be like out of commission from that. I feel like. The lab is growing more manic. Well, like I said, it's a good thing we've slowly built more of a team, especially like with law, getting the samurai's body back. Maybe it was leaning to get Luffy getting clapped for the real first time since we got here, like post time skip. I mean, he didn't, he struggled in Fishman against Hordi, but, uh, where is he? He's gone.  I mean, Caesar's celebrating pretty quickly. Yeah, he's huge, man. How did he get out of it? Are we even going to know? Whoa, Caesar's getting just run through right now, man. It wasn't a bit that he was just standing there. I was right. Oh, he's about to explain. He's about to explain. Or did he? Yeah, did he just move insanely quickly? He's not going to explain. Sure, man. It's just not the mystery. I just guess. Oh, true. Yeah. Beryl, you know how that worked out with friggin. What's his name? Caribou. What is Frankie? Frankie could just craft a box, honestly. Yeah. What does smoker think? Does he think that Caesar can't be like captured? Well, Luffy is just rocking and rolling in the new world already. Oh, what happened? It's Caesar. Oh, that was like haunting how he just stopped. What's happening? He said he said he could resist like the poison now. What would possibly be happening? Caesar entering him? Does he need the Heimlich? Whoa. He really does look like a demon, man. Is he choking him with the smoke or the gas? Again, you could say the same about Luffy, though. What is he doing? Oh, he's knocked out. Oh, damn. This back and forth is crazy. I think he's done. Dude, he is a giant. Oh my gosh. Damn. Okay, first, we don't get to explain how Luffy escaped it. Now we don't get to explain what he's even doing to him. For what, Emperor? They're even targeting. I didn't realize it said strong on his arm now. Oh, Frankie's going to take a shot at him. Wing. Oh, it's like a destructo disc. Go, Robin. Go. Extraction. It's happening to her, too. It's like an invisible gas. Brother. What is happening? Caesar clan is squad wiping. She's so beautiful, even passed out. He's menacing looking. It doesn't seem like it's affecting Frank. He never mind. There it is. I was about to say maybe it's different because he's a cyborg. I guess not. And I doubt it's hockey. I don't know. If it was hockey, smoker would have recognized it or Luffy. God, dude, he's menacing. I have no idea, man. I don't even have a guess. He obviously had this trump card saved to the very end. It looks like they're choking. He is a demon, man. Meanwhile. Oh, law. It was. It's affecting him, too. Or is he tricking her? No, no, no, no. What is happening? What is going on? Is it something in the hall? Oh, it's something in the hall. Another piece of the puzzle. Man. Who is this? Who is this? He knows him. Wait. Oh, they were talking about another Joker. They were talking about Joker. This has to be him. They didn't even give us a look at him, though. I don't recognize him, so obviously we don't know, but he said you've grown up, so he's known law for a decent amount of time. Do we even get a look at his face? No, but he's powerful enough to just subdue law like that. And is he the reason for what's going on outside?  So if you can just make him bleed and like clutch his heart, what power do you have, man? Jeez, Louise, Pughazard is going sicko mode. I'm really glad that Caesar Cronam wasn't just taken down right away, too. I love these shots of like them exaggerating how huge he is and how huge his form is and how formidable he actually is because he has to be formidable, man. He's taking on this entire operation nearly single-handedly. Well, obviously not. He has the bird girl and whoever this guy is. But he's like sort of the spearhead behind all this. He has to be a very strong individual, both in terms of power and resilience and especially to act on his own like this. But I mean, the tables turned very quickly. Law, I thought, wouldn't like suffer in the slightest this arc or just on this island or just in this show in general. He's law. I've seen the extent of what he can do. He can literally teleport, man. But guys, that has been it for my reaction to One Piece today. I hope you did enjoy. Again, the chaos of Pughazard just gets more and more insane. That's been it for me, though. I hope you have a fantastic rest of your day and I'll catch you in the next one. Peace, peace.


We're down here at the wayway raceway where we have an obstacle course set up for it's a jeep thing. We've got all these different stations set up that we can run across and give a little test to the jeeps. This thing will happen today starting about five o'clock this evening. So far we're looking at probably any of them eight to nine hundred jeeps. We're going to be doing an RC crawl with US-23 raceways. It's set up on the backside so both things are going to be going on. We have a vendor set up throughout the current course. The major vendors are going to be giving away prizes. If everyone can come out, have a ball, we've got a lot of stuff planned. We're going to have a big day.


Hello and welcome back to theCUBE's live coverage here at SAS Innovate 2024. I'm John Furrier, host of theCUBE with my co-host and co-founder Dave Vellante, extracting the seeds from those. Got a great return guest, Jay Uptchart, CIO at SAS is on yesterday. He's got a guest done with him, Sri Raghavan, who's the principal technology partnerships data analyst at Amazon Web Services, AWS, Sri, great to see you. It's great to be here. Jay, great to come back, good to see you. Thank you. So this is a fun CIO, AWS. I mean, this is going to be, I think, a nice cloud conversation. Lots going on in the managed service. So welcome back. And a lot of work going on with AWS and partnership. Let's talk about the partnership update with AWS. So fantastic partnership. In fact, award-winning partnership I would add yesterday. Thank you very much for that. We're thrilled. Yeah, tell us a little bit about it real quick. Yeah, so yesterday we were called upon and we're giving an award the day before actually as the cloud and technology partner of the year. With SAS and we couldn't be more grateful, obviously, to get an award like this. It takes a village and there's a tremendous team on the AWS side as well as in the SAS side who've been working hand in glove for the past, I think four years or so. And we're here at the culmination of that with an award and with all kinds of signed agreements, contractual agreements in place for us to invest in the SAS business. So long story short, if I haven't repeated myself many, many times, I'm going to repeat myself once again. We're thrilled to be in this partnership. This is a great partner to be in business with and we're extremely thankful and grateful for that. Thank you. Jay, we actually had Brian on and talked about that. You do the hard work, get the right product, mix the results and we'll be on the scoreboard. That's my word, he didn't say that directly. We said revenue will be a result of that. The SAS manage offerings doing well, okay? And so that's proof in the pudding is something going on there. Give us the update of what the key to success is. Key to success. Well, let's talk about the results first. So yes, absolutely. SAS managed services as a portfolio continues to excel. We're incredibly proud of it. It's probably the fastest growing part of the SAS umbrella. Last year we enjoyed 30% growth in the managed services. The today's announcement with AWS expands our hosted managed services offering within that portfolio through AWS. And we are really excited about it because we're meeting our customers where they want to be. There have been strong demand signals for the last few years from our customers that said, hey, not only will we take via and run it because it's cloud portable and cloud agnostic and run it where you want. They enjoyed having it there, but they wanted SAS's expertise to install, configure, run and operate it for them. And so we're meeting them where they are and empowering that choice that we've given them. So what is the strategy for moving customers to the cloud? I mean, as a CIO, you could lift and shift. You could lift and modernize. What would you do if you were one of your customers? And what does that mean for Viya? Well, my experience, I'll lift trees depending on this too, every customer is different. There are customers who are running from a problem and an end of life, end of support, hardware, software issue, maybe a compliance issue. And it may be time requires you to lift and shift and maybe others where we have the luxury of time and we can modernize and migrate at the same time. In our case, we have a lot of customers with massive SAS 9 installation. They're hungry for the Viya innovation that you've heard about at the show. They want to go. Some can make that leap by modernization and migration in one step. Others need to pace it. So we try to meet our customers again where they are in their cloud journey. The good news is, we're a couple years into this, right, we've learned a lot as we've gone and so our ability to get our customers there safely so we de-risk the move has been really key to our success and frankly our customer success. And the drivers for that growth are just the need for more analytics in the cloud. Is there an AI driver here? What's the tailwind? Absolutely, there's an AI need, there's an analytics need. Jay said it right, we meet the customers where they are which is why the two companies get along so very well because it's not just about us or the technology or infrastructure, it's about what the customer needs are. And there are two parts to it, right? One is being cloud native and one is being cloud ready. Cloud ready is relatively easier because you can lift and shift and make sure they take advantage of the cloud. Cloud native is a little bit more difficult in the sense that a lot more engineering effort needs to happen. But behind all the things, particularly with SaaS, with the customer base that SaaS has across healthcare, financial services, manufacturing, you name it, the numbers of use cases are diverse as are the analytic needs. And to be able to do that, there are many different kinds of analytics which usually comes into play which is typically we call it multi-genre analytics. SaaS provides a phenomenal base of those kinds of analytics to turn and play which are complemented by analytics which is available from us like SageMaker models and whatnot, as well as let's not forget in this day and age, the generative AI piece. What can we do to bring, for instance, with customer 360? We're providing support with generative AI to be able to deliver content which then SaaS takes and passes it on to customers who are now able to have a very, very near real-time experience as far as their journey with their retailers or with their healthcare providers or with the banks are concerned. This is a classic example of two technologies coming into play. So yes, analytics is a part of it, infrastructure is a part of it. SaaS's ability to manage very complex installations with security, with the ability to serve up data in real-time, all those things become very crucial. And diverse, you mentioned diverse, but also expanding because with Viya Workbench, you're going to see a growth of users and developers, both on the democratization side, as well as on the developer side. So I think that's a great call-out point there. The thing that interested me yesterday on stage was the customer had Amazon on the chart. I took a screenshot of it. It says Amazon, web services at the bottom. Okay, and then the rest of that AI stack was SaaS and customer. No flashy, shiny new toy in there from anything else. Pure cloud and a stack built by the customer. That's production workload. So again, this is the year of the, let's see who can bring the production workloads to the table. Yeah, so in that case, that customer case, that was Georgia Pacific, one of our wonderful customers shared with AWS. That technology stack has evolved between all three parties, right? We've continued to evolve and push. They have over 10,000 models in production today, saving them millions of dollars in manufacturing. It's a fantastic story. And that piece of the stack at the bottom was SageMaker got the call-out, which was interesting. I was with Matt Wood a couple of weeks ago in New York City. I don't want to give the exact number because I'm not sure I remember correctly, but a very large proportion of the workloads and the problems can be solved with SageMaker was the statement he made, and it was more than 50%. And so, Gen AI is maybe the orchestra. And in this case, Viya is actually the orchestrator, bringing some tooling that is really more use case specific for your customers. That's right. That Viya as well as integration in with our ES product, so that event streaming protocol has been incredibly important to our manufacturing vertical. And so those two things together kind of initiated so much of where Georgia Pacific was going, came in with the AWS foundational piece. And I think we've enjoyed tremendous success together and a great customer. That's why I like that because it's Gen of AI, one of the things I love about Gen of AI is, I mean besides, I like hype by the way, but as long as it gets reality comes in, and it is, the hype is, the reality is matching the height in a very compressed scale. So I think cloud helps that too, and having the data will do that. But I like that. There's one point that Jamie, I didn't mean to interrupt, really quickly, 10,000 models. It's a lot of models, right? It's a massive number. To do model management is not easy. Anybody can create these models and bring them in and put them in production. But over time, you have to look at things like championship, challenging models, you need to look at how model decay happens. I cannot think of a better partnership where you bring two technologies together to be able to manage this massive number of machine learning models which are in place for you to address things like demand or customer journey, fraud detection, what have you? I mean that's something stupendous we're looking at. I'm glad you mentioned security. There was a tweet by Adam today. Did you see it? No, I did not. He's basically pounding AWS's chest which is the right thing to do about security. It's always been, I'll be at reinforce in June. This year it's in Philly. And it is something. You guys, AWS has never been a big security monetizer. It's just there. You got some products that you can buy. But it's always been about, it's built in. And so I was glad to see that tweet. Glad you brought that up, Sri. It is a big part of what we do, we have to. Simply because you know we have many regulated industries. Security has never been an afterthought. And now we're making sure people understand that. So Swami also tweeted about the Llama 3 as well. Saw that tweet. That brings up the whole diversity piece of it. So model diversity is a reality. We published last year. I think we're the first ones to actually publish this and call it out. The power law of models. You're going to have large models and you're going to have especially models come in. Turns out that's where the action is. And you guys are actually doing that with the lightweight models as well. Because you have a small model, it'll be highly valuable. Everyone knows that now. Okay, now you have model interaction. So what's going on is the use case of J. George Pacific, coming back to that, is that they built their own AI stack based on what they needed, the latency requirements. Okay, huge end-to-end requirement. That's a net new, that was generated because of Generavai. So Generavai is a whole other category of new things that can be different. It's okay to be different from one workload to the other. Why? Because the workload's different. So there's no general purpose AI in my opinion. That's my view. So that comes back now to cloud. So cloud operations is now standard. Cloud on premise edge. They all got to work together. So when we get back to the end-to-end workloads and I got to manage that data, how do you guys see your customers implementing the new stack, the new generavai models on existing workloads, net new workloads that were built from scratch because of Generavai and the full, I call, tear the house down and rebuild, right? So there's a full rebuild, retrofit, net new. There's three use cases that we're seeing. How can you guys unpack that a little bit for us? Yeah, go ahead, Tri. Go ahead. So this obviously is a point for a much, much larger discussion over and above the queue. But I think one of the first things we've seen with a lot of our customers is they always work back from the use case that they're trying to resolve. I was talking to a customer not too long ago, just a couple of days ago, one of the things that we're trying to do is they were trying to understand patient outcomes in healthcare. Now, they had a very clear idea what it is that they wanted to measure in terms of metrics, but what they weren't clear about is, okay, what are all the intervening steps that happened before somebody goes into, I don't know, diabetic shock, for instance? Okay, what's the data that they have? So to be able to do things like being able to retrofit or to be able to build upon existing use cases, one of the first things I look at is, you know, what does my data look like? Number one, what kind of infrastructure do I have the data I currently stored in? What kind of cleansing that I have to do? What kind of analytics do I have to put in place? Can I do things with regular analytics that I have from the machine learning world or do I have to go with large language models? And if so, what's the price to performance comparison that I have to deal with to be able to get those things up? So there are, as you can imagine, the highly unsatisfactory answer I'm going to give you right now is that there are a number of these components that first need to be looked at. Data, infrastructure, types of models, how you do the model management, how you actually look at, how you curate the models over time, how do you look at performance of models over time. These are some of the things that they look at from the standpoint of whether to retrofit or whether to do a brand new use case or whether to actually continue some of the existing work. You need system architecture. It's you that brings systems thinking to the table. You get to look at everything. Yes, you do, but you also have the struggle of figuring out how to be able to make all of the mesh which is what we've been working with tasks to be able to do that. Not sure of that. No, that's perfect. I totally agree with what you said. I think the other interesting thing is that the partnership together brings a complete cohesive tool set to the table, regardless of if it's a new use case, a retrofit use case, or something again that has yet to be explored. I think together we can bring again tools that help meet the needs of our customers in the moment that they made it in. I think it's part of the compelling reason why I think the partnership's been so successful. You know, a big theme of the show, or maybe not theme, but message that we've heard loud and clear is that, look, it's not just about the LLM. There's so many other components around the LLM. I think both your firms understand that quite well. Having said that, LLM's getting a lot of attention these days. So in AWS is making the assumption that model diversity is the right strategy for customers. Absolutely. Working backwards from the customers. There's two ends of the spectrum on this discussion. One end says, well, all the models are going to be commoditized. The AWS end of the spectrum, I would say, I'm not to put words in your mouth as no, that's not that case. John, you've even said, if innovation continues, they're not going to be commoditized. The combinatorial effects of being able to understand model management, right fit, price performance, energy, et cetera, is going to insulate those models from being commoditized. I'm a CAO. You maybe wouldn't mind if they're commoditized. It makes your life easier. Where do you guys land on that? Try to give me as an objective of the answers as possible on commoditization of LLM's. Look, at some point in time, I'm sure, the number of firms who are developing LLM's is going to increase, that's for sure. But to develop an LLM is no simple affair. It takes billions of dollars to be able to develop any LLM of any kind. So, you know, Amazon's come a long way, not just with Bedrock, which is our managed services. We have our own model called Titan. We have a bunch of other models from Anthrop, and Hugging Face and whatnot. You saw the announcement today at LLAMA. So, I don't believe we're anywhere near commoditization. These models are extremely purpose-built. They are very use case-driven. It's going to be a while before, I don't even know, we're going to ever get to that point where we find the magic to commoditize them. Today, AWS has made strategic investments in the generative AI space, and continuing to do so at a very, very high pace. And we believe that these are models that are going to be used for specific reasons. They can, of course, be used in combination, depending on the use case you're looking at. But I don't see them being commoditized for a while. And how do you take bets? Yeah, I mean, I think there's more players entering for sure. You're exactly right. Incredibly expensive to continue to build. There are also a moment in time that challenges some of the usefulness in the enterprise. So I think one of the places that SAS is going is smaller models, perhaps some that augment or can help ensure the integrity of the answer that might come back from an LLM. We saw that yesterday on stage from SAS's announcements. So will models be commoditized? I don't know that they will, perhaps, on the LLMs because, again, there will be more. Somewhat naturally happens with more play. I think those industry-specific models, those models that are a little bit more built for purpose for a particular enterprise use case. Absolutely. I think we're going to have sustained value, in my opinion. We're aligned with you on that, by the way. We don't believe in the commoditization strategy. I think you took very well on one of the few parts. Actually, Matt Woodjump came into my LinkedIn on that one time. And having said that, consolidation, probably likely because it's so expensive, and mass customization for particular models. And you almost have to do it, right? With the contextual data you put in place, customization is inevitable. And we're fine with that. We expect that to happen and we want that to happen. But in terms of models being commoditized, I don't see that. They might be obsolete. That, I think, obsolescence is a bigger conversation. Maybe, yeah. If you're not good, you've got it. If you don't meet the SLA, Brian and I just talked about in this last segment, if you don't meet certain thresholds, you're not even in the conversation to be considered. I agree. I mean, this is where the game is changing. It's not like you can't hang around. There's no technical debt anymore. It's called technical, you're out of business. Yeah. Right. My point is, I'd love to hear a CIO's perspective on this. I think it's a dangerous assumption to sit back and say, well, it's going to be commoditized, so I don't really have to invest in the customization for my business. I think that's a mistake. You can't wait. Yeah, right? You can't wait. If you're sitting on the sidelines and you're waiting for that price to come down or waiting for someone else to figure it out and then you'll inherit it, your competition's going to pass you by. Well, the CIO could look at it and say, hey, if it's not commoditized, it means it's valuable. I'm going to invest in it. That's right. So the commodity question, to me, goes the wrong way. Commodity means it doesn't cost that much. I can get a lot of it anywhere. I would say from that standpoint, the big models are more commoditized than anything else. So I think the investment is not about the commodities, but how is the value extracted? And keep in mind, that intellectual capital is yours. You don't have to share it with commodity. It's different. And so to that extent, it is to SaaS's advantage. It is to AWS's advantage for us to be able to invest heavily, which we are. Yeah, for sure. The last three minutes we have, I want to get two things out. One, I want to quote Swami who runs the data division over there. This kind of illustrates why I think you guys are aligned. I want to get your reaction on this. Customers need, this is a tweet from this today this morning. Customers need assurance that their generative AI workloads dash that contain highly valuable, sensitive data dash are private and protected. He goes on to say some of the things that Amazon related, but that's a core thesis of this show, that the workflow is the customer's intellectual property. And that workflow and data, which you guys have a lot of experience one with with customers and experience managing and applying math to and statistics and compute, is the new asset. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean, and I think we, what you're seeing in our portfolio and the way we're going to market with our customers and trying to engage their success is 100% trying to help them from the bottom up. So we have the tooling. Again, we hit either through partnerships or within our own portfolio. And we want to help them imagine what that looks like. And that does become their IP at the end of the day. That is their secret sauce for why their business will succeed. And Swami's a legend in Amazon, as you know, keep alumni as well. Yes. And he has a hard core on this too. They want more open data. Absolutely. They want transparency, but the privacy is huge. Yes. This is important for the workloads. When people start rethinking how to apply generative AI, whether it's a retrofit, rebuild or net new, you got to do, you got to understand the role. And he's actually worried about the ethics of it, right? What happens if it gets in the wrong hands? What happens if that privacy is abused? And what happens if there are certain bits of information that you should never be in possession of? And I think, you know, Swami's putting very thoughtful, innovative efforts towards making sure security and privacy are front and center of that whole approach. I thought Reggie did a great job this morning, the main stage around it, especially when it came to the data maker. So SAS is offering right around creating that synthetic data. So if it is highly sensitive, is there a way to augment it, change it, mask it in a certain way? That still makes it applicable in using the models. And then also a great way to also represent underrepresented data, if you will, in the data sets that you're going to model. I think this point is really why, not only you guys have a good partnership with the managed service, it also shows where the money's going to be made, the monetization, the results are going to be, whoever can make their business run better, not just have tech, the tech's just the glue, it's pervasive, everywhere, it's ubiquitous. So final question before we wrap up real quick, where does this partnership go next? Talk about the relationship. Obviously, Amazon's got a lot of customers. I was speculating on our analyst segment that you put SAS in the marketplace. That's a dangerous, that's going to be, whoo, revenue, you know. We dipped our toe in that water. So 360VN in the marketplace was a key decision for us. I think you'll continue to see more innovation there. It's something we're excited about. Obviously, tremendous reach with their customer portfolio we're excited about. We have a, I'll say a compute intensive install base ourselves. And then I think we're solving real world problems with artificial intelligence today at the enterprise level. And so our customers are naturally going to come to the two kings in the arena. J3, thanks for coming on theCUBE, really appreciate it. Thanks for having us here. It's a pleasure to be here and much appreciated. Thank you for everything. All right, awesome. Thank you so much. Live here on the show floor, I'm John Furrier, Dave Vellante, you're watching theCUBE, SiliconANGLE's leading tech coverage. Covering enterprise tech, we'll be right back after this short break.


They'll shake out at snowboard, they'll shake out at snowboard, get those legs loose, get those legs loose, come on, come on. Tip of the day, find the starting line before the race day. I thought the starting line was up at the main village, it is not, it is here, about a mile west of the main village. Just putting that out there. Shake out and stretch went well. Legs are feeling great. The dombs is all done, delayed onset muscle soreness from last week and last week the gear that I wore is going to be exactly the same as the gear I wear tomorrow because it worked. It worked, so why change it, right? The Solomon Ultras, going with them, love them, love them. Solomon hat, watch out, bright green, you're going to know I'm coming, you're going to know I'm coming, you can't miss me with that guy. Sun 2, Ambit Peak 3, the watch is working again, somehow I figured out the settings and it's working now. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know what I did but it's working, it's tracking elevation correctly and if it doesn't, I can fix it later on Strava. Just learn that, just learn that, that's kind of cool. Smith glasses, thank you Smith, love these things. They just like wrap around my face nice and good so I like that. Alright, the best choice I made at the Under Armour 50K at Copper Mountain last weekend was the Ultimate Direction Vest. I've never raced with a vest. I usually use the handhelds or frankly I've also raced with nothing and just get stuff at the aid station. But I took the vest last week and the bladder is currently, this is a little trick, is currently in the freezer right now and so when I wake up at 5am tomorrow, well yeah 5am, I'll put water into it and then I'm going to have nice cold water for a good chunk of the race, not the whole race but a good chunk of the race because when you're working and it's hot out, you, like cold water is a lot better than warm water and your body temperature heats up the bladder and so anyway, it's in the freezer and that's a little trick that I use and this guy has gels, let me just show you here, has gels in these little pockets so boom, I go with the goo tastefully nude because there's no taste and I don't like gels so you know, just go with something that doesn't have a lot of taste and it seems to work. So that's the vest I will be using and I'm excited and that is that as far as gear, like that's the beauty of running is that you don't need much, of course I'll have my ASICs running shorts on and I believe ASIC socks even, so alright, on to the race, here's my game plan, this is my vision for the race and listen, it can change like a drop of the hat, if the leaders go out fast, I'll have to go out a little faster, if the leaders go out a little slower, who knows, I might be in the mix right at the beginning, you just got to be adaptable, you got to be flexible when you're racing, you can't be set in stone because the race has changed like that, but my game plan is to be top 15 at mile 1, top 10 at mile 3-ish and then the first 8 miles of the race is all uphill, mostly, mostly and so I will try to do, I'll try to be basically like top 7, 7, top 7 or 8 by the top of that first hill, first big mountain, 8 miles up and if I can be top 7-ish, top 8-ish and still have the leaders in sight, boom, that's what I want, that's what I want and then by about mile 12, you go downhill for 4 miles and by about mile 12-ish, you're down and then you start going back up again, so when I start going back up around mile 13, 14, that's when I'll see how I feel and if I'm feeling good, let's go, let's go, alright, a good chunk of the race is over, over a third, not quite half, but over a third and well over a third and let's rock and roll, let's rock and roll, so that's like the game plan, that's the gear I'm using, it's pretty simple, pretty simple stuff but I'm excited, feeling good waiting for Stevo to show up and then we're gonna go get the packets and then basically go to bed because we, you know, got an early morning tomorrow and I'm editing this tonight so that it's published before the race anyway, all for you YouTube, all for you You want to kiss my lucky foot? Thanks, yeah Number 10 This thing's harder than it looks, alright


Welcome back it is still the run-up and we've been having a lot of beautiful conversations first we talked about the three major presidential candidates and then we talked about grassroots politics and then we're moving on to talk about the floods currently ravaging the country the probable after-effects and the looming food scarcity that might come with it the devastating floods which plunged great sorts of agricultural land under water would exacerbate food insecurity as already the economy has seen more than a 50% rise in the prices of rice maize and whiz since the beginning of last year and this is attributed to a lot of factors which includes but is not limited to fertilizer shortage and surging diesel prices and at the president of the Federation of Agricultural Commodities Association of Nigeria has said that outcome of the flooding situation has sparked swarming grains and that a new flood crisis looms as the country faces a likely rise in the prices of many staples and also his vice has also said that the impact of the flooding was going to be a major strain on food security as according to him the recent floods will lead to a spike in the prices of grains and I have just been joined by Mary Ufon the president of small-scale women farmers organization of Nigeria we're going to be having this conversation together good morning and welcome ma'am good afternoon how are you? I'm doing great how are you doing? we're also trying by the grace of God. You are into farming and agriculture this is what you do can you tell us how the floods has affected your business? okay thank you very much as the national president of small-scale women farmers in Nigeria a platform cut across all the 36 states including FCT I have very huge report of a lot of lot is incurred by my women farmers across the affected states and sincerely speaking the report we are seeing and the report we are hearing is very very devastating our major aim is to make sure that Nigeria is food secured if there is no food if there is no woman there would be no food on the table no food no nation we know that and but as it is now a lot of farms have been washed away especially those of the no-holder farmers who are the major people feeding the nation and we are beginning to see the impact that even some families are now living in camps they have left their homes because their homes have been jacking over by water and some have even lost their investment completely so the trauma living your home to go and stay in a camp alone is something else and in that camp they are all being fed by food being donated by other people to feed them in the camp and their families and we can begin to see the effect of this coming up in the market when you go to buy food stock or soup ingredients and the prices has gone up very high and we expect that by this season which is the harvesting season it should be the time we have cheap cheap cheap cheap and cheap prices of food in the market but the reverse is the case now and we're beginning to look at even we as farmers we we don't even think we can even fit ourselves throughout the season talking about you know carrying the food to the market to feed other people and that is why we actually been advocating and calling on government on the need to you know give supports to the affected areas so that we can go into a dry season farming to supplement what we have lost in the rainy season a major concern has been the federal government have actually and meaningful individuals to plan to make sure that they support the small older farmers but how are the support being channelled are the real affected community communities being actually targeted or the support falling into wrong ones that is our major concern now thank you you know the urging the government to come to the aid of you know the women that you work with but I wanted to ask you this question how do you think this flawed you know would affect food production especially in the coming year and do you have an alternative I mean most of the families are submerged under water do you have an alternative to help tackle the effect or cushion the effect of that this is going to have on food production actually the alternative of this flood lie in the hands of government because as smaller farmers we don't have the facilities and the resources to control this water government should begin to open rooms to collect these waters that have submerged these lands I'm quite sure if waterways are actually open the flooded areas will dry up and we can immediately go to production because this flood that has flooded this area have come with a lot of nutrients to settle on the land and this will help us to produce more food in the dry season and unless the waters are channeled through a reservoirs or through the creation of new terms the waters will continue to remain there for some month before it dries up for people to go into dry season so I think the federal government have the solution because we can plant on top of water and we don't have the resources to channel these waters to where they should be channel to so I think the whole book of the integration should come from government apart from the government channeling these waters if you were to make a suggestion what would you say you know can be done to reduce the you know the expected hash hash conditions are effects that would come with this flood and actually we have also been talking among ourselves as farmers on the need for us to maintain sustainable agriculture by when you are farming make sure that you reduce the number of water coming in your farm by doing the way you will plan you can't land on the waterways when you know that that place is a waterway you stop planning from that waterway but most of the time the communities don't have alternatives because that is the only land they have so they have to use it and secondly we should begin to plant crops that can mature LP so that by the time the flood comes we'll be able to harvest our crops as you can see what happened now even the harvested crops were submerged by water so it is another issue and also we want to also you know advocate that as farmers we should also be able to make sure that we use those includes that can help us to have us within the shortest possible time than family longer varieties of crops that take months to harvest maybe if we can start harvesting between August and September by that time some of the crops would have been sold in the market by force because selling it at that time you won't even recover your investment so I think it's much or little we can do a small order farmers the only thing is that we need to adopt the new method of farming so that it can help us to reduce the losses we are incurring and when you say the new method of farming what do you mean by that the new method of farming is by employing technology and like having a green houses which I know is beyond the reach of small order farmers because it takes a lot of money to construct a greenhouse and also you can also you know embark on the dry season farming which is more safer by the time the waters are going away you begin to plant your crop and you have best without any a problem we need to you know cultivate the happiness of all year farming not only to depend on the rainy season because the rainy season is becoming so risky now we can't control the waters and looked at the pest and pesticides that comes with it and it makes farmers to lose their investment and a lot of investment was lost this year especially for young farmers all right thank you so much for coming on the run-up this morning it was really amazing talking to you we appreciate your time thank you for giving us your time this morning ma'am we appreciate that thank you so much okay you've heard it whatever it is that you can do please do and stay safe out there the floods could be coming with a lot of other things ordered and just submerging food food products and you know Jack would be dangerous animals in the water generally just stay safe and this is where we draw the curtain and today's edition of the run-up the run-up will come back tomorrow with more interesting topics thank you so much for watching and stay glued to plus TV you can of course follow us via all our social media handles on Facebook Twitter and Instagram you can also subscribe to our YouTube channels are plus TV Africa and plus TV 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