Hello, and welcome back to VMworld Explore and theCUBE's wall-to-wall coverage. I'm joined today by Dave Nicholson, who's really the principal of CXO Insights. Glad to have you on here. I think we can jump in. This is a little back and forth because I think we've been seeing some similar trends in what some of the announcements have been here around VMware Explore and what's going on. And why don't we jump right into it? I think, again, both of us have been other places and seen things around in our analysis of this. And I think, you know, I always thought it was pretty funny when people thought it was going to be anti-competitive with Broadcom buying VMware. Because I look at it, and VMware has such a huge CSP cloud service provider type market that they've been selling into with the cloud director and a number of other different product sets that aren't really totally highlighted this week, but there is a strong presence. I know they're here. We're going to have some of them on later in the week. What have you been seeing and what have you been hearing? Because I think that to me is an underlying theme that really isn't getting talked about here. Yeah, yeah. So I would say that starting out this morning, I thought the keynote was brilliantly executed. And I was looking for sort of the behind the scenes announcements and what came across loudly and clearly to me was sort of the one-two punch of we are going to increase competition via our cloud strategy. And then they also addressed something that maybe kind of flew past people, but having NVIDIA, the leader of NVIDIA up on stage was huge because one of the concerns that was raised in the EU and the UK was this idea that there would be an anti-competitive dynamic introduced in the guys of Broadcom making it really hard for other hardware providers to integrate with VMware. And boom, NVIDIA front and center, who happens to be a customer of Broadcom, put just wood behind the arrow of no, no, no, no. This is an ecosystem that's going to thrive. Customers will benefit from this ecosystem moving forward. So yeah, we can go into more detail on stuff like the cloud strategy, but no, I think it was, it should have been a message well received by the VMware community customers at large. Of course, folks who are part of VMware, the company, are going to experience change in the future as we all do in tech constantly. But no, I think it was largely positive and very well done from a keynote perspective. Yeah, and off the record type little conversations I've been hearing is that actually emails have even already gone out to certain parts of the community where internal employees and stuff about some of the changes that are coming. And I think that what's interesting to see is that, and I think this is a good place that you went there. I think there's a community here that wants to embrace AI, the cloud service providers that are out there want to embrace AI and they want to see NVIDIA up there right, you know, Jensen in front of Hoctan, right in the front row there. I thought that was very, very symbolic of the relationship and the openness that they're going for. And I think a big push is, you know, and Hoctan even said it in his little part of the taped interview, the taped part of the opening was, we're going to invest in R&D and in the ecosystem. And I think that's a change from what had been happening under EMC and Dell where the ecosystem became way more closed. I was saying on our opening this morning that there's over 80 hands-on labs right behind us next door here and out of that, only five of them are from partners. Those five partners are all hyperscalers right now. So it'll be nice to see that ecosystem and be embraced and see how that changes over the next coming years. Where do you see some of the other things that you heard this morning that may have really piqued your interest about how this, you know, this could be really successful? Well, you mentioned that we've each been at other places at various times in our history. One of the things that I did was work on the team that produced the Azure VMware solution that was acquired by Microsoft. So I spent a couple of years crawling around in the belly of the beast that is the software defined data center stack. In other words, everything from VCF through, everything having to do with this idea that you can put a VMware layer on top of hyperscale, cloud provider, infrastructure as a service, and really subjugate those hyperscalers to that model. That's not something that would have happened readily under EMC's leadership. In another life, I was at EMC when we acquired VMware. So when I see mentions of latest iterations and development that's being worked through on things like VSAN, but in particular NSX, what I see signaled to the world is that they're serious about continuing to pursue the cloud strategy. Now, the proof of the pudding is in the eating, as they say. You and I were talking about this off air. Networking is absolutely at the center of this. So an organization's propensity to either adopt or reject NSX will determine just how much this promise is fulfilled when it comes to that part of the strategy. So it's all about networking. Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I think networking is the linchpin that connects all of these around. It originally made cloud a reality, is that fast network, big bandwidth, and being able to have those pipes where you could move your data and your workloads up there so that people could use things like VDI or different types of access methodologies to get at their data. And then with clouds and being able to have that, I mean, of course it started with three-tier apps and web logics and all that up there and all that old school stuff. But I think what is really interesting is networking has just become so much more complex. And I think part of it is the security aspect of it. Part of it is just the complications and APIs between the different clouds and the service providers in between them. What are you seeing when you're looking at that complexity as well? So I would say that my advice to private clients and others is that the complexity is worth it. That once you actually get these environments instantiated, the benefits that you'll derive are worth it. One of my roles is to be a program leader in the Wharton CTO Academy. And so my CIO, CTO students are often asking, how do I generate consensus or consent to make investments in things like a new networking topology that's going to deliver all of these benefits? And so I would say that strategically it's gonna be just as important, more important moving forward to realize this vision of VMware cloud everywhere. To help those customers, those CIOs, CTOs, senior decision makers, help them articulate internally the value of this investment. Don't undersell the complexity involved. Be upfront, admit, hey, it can be complicated. But once we get past it, once it's put in place, boy is your life gonna be a lot easier. So just because it's complicated doesn't mean that it's, I don't think that's a negative. And I don't know if we're gonna have to go to San Francisco Giants versus Red Sox discussion in order for us to disagree on something, but I mean, let's try to find something where we have contrasting views. I was gonna say, I think that interestingly enough, I think it's not just one topology. And I think to your point, to a certain extent, I think it's people, because these different networks have, some companies have become multi-cloud by accident. And I think when you start to look at how do they re-architect everything, I'm not sure that everybody's gonna go to just NSX Plus. I think going to a PaaS service and making NSX PaaS service, which seems to be the direction they're taking NSX with NSX Plus and it being SaaS offering and having some data lake behind it for understanding configurations makes a lot of sense. I just wonder how that jives with all of the different complexities of load balancers and all of the different partnerships that you have there.  And I think that those complexities, because hey, maybe Azure does it a certain way and Amazon definitely does it a different way with ALB and ELBs, how do you bring this all together? I think that to me is really the challenge that VMware has is that these networking is complex. NSX does a certain job of abstracting it, but it can't be the full boat on that. And I don't know if that's how you see it or... No, I completely see it that way. I totally agree. I'm sitting here trying to think, let's pick apart what he said. The only thing I would say is I like to clarify that whenever we talk about multi-cloud, it's like, yeah, it's kind of silly. IT has been multi-vendor. It has been multi-tool forever and it always will be. And even when we talk about cloud, I think at some point we'll sort of back off on using the term cloud because cloud is just another tool in the IT toolkit. The one thing that what you just described, my heart is warmed by what you said because it's true because what it equals is job security for human beings for at least a few more years and hopefully beyond that because good luck AI trying to sort through all of this stuff. It's complicated. It needs smart people to put together still and for the foreseeable future. Yeah, I think the cloud architects are safe. I think it will be and I liked some of the messaging. I think we'll start to hear tomorrow around that VMware is going to talk about upskilling and helping the VM admins who've been very loyal. I mean, they've talked about 150,000 Vmug members as part of that. And it's a huge community that they have here and that's always something VMware has done better than anybody.  And it's not just about the products. It's about the solution in the ecosystem. I think the Vmugs are gonna have to get more open again. I think that again, when they start to go down this path it will help them but to your point I think AI can't solve everything initially. I think they'll be AI tooling and even they talked about it. Hey, here I can help you with configurations. And I think that's key, especially when they started talking about another persona that they're selling to now in platform engineering. Which John Furrier and I started this kick back in February when we were talking at KubeCon around platform engineering as, hey, IT became SRE and DevOps and all started to come together into platform engineering and I had this experience when I was at AWS where the engineers are like, don't SRE me. And so you start to go and look at how you have this division of labor. And it can't be automated away. And I think that there is so much complexity to this, all of this, not just the networking aspects to it. I definitely think that there will be moments of automation but I think that will be to enable people to move forward in their careers versus, hey, this is going to replace you. I mean, obviously there will be replacement and shifting of people. Well, there's going to be change. That's why, frankly, that's why positions in this industry that we are blessed to be a part of pay pretty well. And so my advice to folks in this industry, rule number one, don't name your farm animals because when it comes time to eat them, it makes it a lot harder if you've named it and you treat it like a pet. So if you think of, yes, we're here at VMware Explorer, but when you think of the V as really meaning virtualization, there are all sorts of virtualization abstraction technologies, they're not going to go away. Virtualizing an entire operating system as a virtual machine is not going to go away in the near future. It will be augmented and it will need to interoperate with other technologies. Figure it out, learn it. Just don't be tied to some very, very specific thing because if you're tying yourself only to say, VMware, VMware is going to shift to the left and come up with something new. I mean, just look at the introduction of VSAN and NSX over the years, new disciplines that come in. So that doesn't change. I think the one thing to watch and the one thing that Broadcom will have to navigate carefully is the, they say that our reality exists between our ears, but that's not the reality. It's our reality. The reality for someone who works at VMware is going to be very, very different possibly than the reality that exists in the rest of the world. And there's going to be a lot of noise as those changes move different people's cheese along the way. So number one, don't name your farm animals. Plenty of opportunity moving forward. More opportunity than ever before in this space. So I think I'm bullish on this. No worries. No, I agree. And I think that that's a good place for us, I think to leave it, I think on a positive note with everybody, because I agree with you, having gone through that with HPE when they split from HP to HPE, and I was over there and I told people, I said it's always worse on the outside what you're hearing than what's happening on the inside. Not if you're impacted, but when you're going through that, you got to stay the course and you got to look at where is it getting us to? Because I think that's the positive way. And I think there's so many good things that can come out of this acquisition, but so we'll grab- Next time, big argument smack down. We're going to have to figure it out. We got to figure it out. I'll have to plan this better. Contrarian, yeah. And we'll have to figure it out. But hey, thanks for joining us for Dave and myself. We're here with theCUBE live from VMware Explore and we're continuing our wall-to-wall coverage. Thanks and we'll be right back.


Huh hey there astro vlog fans just a quick note today. It's Friday July 6th end of the week So I'm working from home today And we got an email this morning saying that the Kepler spacecraft was put into a sleep mode or they call it actually a nap mode The original sleep mode the spacecraft had used a lot of fuel to keep it pointed in like a safe direction and the nap mode is a No fuel or a very low fuel version of safe mode for a long time Now we've known the spacecraft is running out of gas when I went to the Kepler science conference at NASA Ames in the bay area last year Somebody said that the Kepler spacecraft had less than two pints so like less than two of these fuel left Well now we've gotten down to fumes like basically nothing pessimistically. I thought we would run out of gas Sometime at the beginning of campaign 16. That's when we did the wave at earth image that you'll remember that is earth That's you Come on. How cool is that? I'll put the link in the description below But go check out that episode of the astro blog we talk about the selfie that Kepler took of earth Not only did Kepler or K2 as they're calling it now make it through campaign 16 But it also made it through campaign 17 and now it's 50 days 51 days into campaign 18 That's way more than I expected Kepler has been operating now for over nine years So they've still got 51 days of science data on board that they think they can successfully get down And that's going to be an awesome data set to still go through there is some hope the spacecraft might be able to be Used for a little bit longer. They're still accepting targets The community is a little bit hesitant at this point but the big reason the Kepler mission isn't over is that we've just begun to really understand these data just today I'm working through edits on a paper using data from the original Kepler mission I've got another paper that I'm working on with more data from the original Kepler mission My colleagues and I are working on projects just getting started to understand the K2 data as well Honestly, I haven't even caught up with the things that Kepler has done in the last year and a half That's all to say the science potential of Kepler has not even hit its midpoint in my fourth year of graduate school So two-thirds the way through but I had already started in earnest working on a PhD thesis Based on old data archival data that was more than ten years old at that time And then the Kepler data Started to arrive and I wasn't directly involved and people in my group meeting in my research group Older students and postdocs started working on this data and started showing me the data And I got so excited about it that I started writing code to analyze it and started making contributions Midway through my fourth year I found that I was working full-time on the Kepler data That my own curiosity had led me to work on on that instead of what I was doing previously and so I just Redefined my thesis in my fifth year. I rewrote my thesis proposal And I wrote an entirely different thesis that this data was fresh and new and exciting and it was a true opportunity To do something new but at the same time it was a risk. It was a risk because I might delay my graduation It was a risk because I was working on things that were hot in the community was excited about and so somebody else might do it first In fact some of the things I wanted to do other people did it first Kepler was the mission that made me realize that it was better to To be the second person to do something that you cared about that was truly awesome Then be the first person to do something that nobody cared about at all the Kepler mission represented the time when I decided to make a Change and take control of my own direction scientifically and That has paid off in every possible way. So yeah, we're not saying goodbye to Kepler today, but Probably soon I just wanted to put another note on YouTube here to just say how much this mission is meant to me and my career How much I have appreciated the amazing engineers from ball aerospace and the support from NASA the Kepler Geo office. I'm not officially part of the Kepler mission. I've never been part of the Kepler mission I've had proposals successfully accepted and done by the Kepler mission, but I'm not part. I'm not affiliated I'm not sponsored. I'm not funded by Kepler in any way It's just been a mission that my tax dollars have funded and has changed my life The Kepler mission's goal was to determine how frequent how common planets like Earth around stars like our Sun are and it's done that it's put the first real constraints on that important number But in doing so we've learned as much or more about the stars themselves And that's what I've worked on. So it's not goodbye just yet Kepler, but that day is coming And so we're getting ready for it. So today. I just wanted to say thank you


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Hello and welcome back to the run-up we are discussing the court order on INEK to allow use of temporary voter cards in March 18 election. The court made the order following a suit that was brought before it by two aggrieved registered voters, Kofora La, Ulu Shegun and Wilson Allwell, who lamented that despite their efforts and repeated visits to INEK office, they were unable to obtain their permanent voter cards as a pvc's before the February 6 deadline. Well joining us to discuss this is Barrister Imana Umoring, a legal practitioner. Hello Barrister Umoring, we also have Barrister Johnson-Aggle with us, not for getting my virtual co-host Adebayo Olooke. Gentlemen you're welcome to the program. Thank you Barrister Imana Umoring, good morning. Barrister Umoring, what political or what constitutional quagmire has this new order thrown up? Well it's not a constitutional quagmire, it is a fact that unfortunately what the court did not hear from INEK before coming up with these judgments. My own take on which I have argued strenuously and which some of the courts have upheld is this. We have the presidential system of government, the executive branch, the powers of the executive branch and the presidential system of government, we got it from America, why don't we look at how it is done in America, there are powers that exclusively that of the executive. INEK had the reason for issue temporary footers card and feminine footers card. INEK said along with for the election that it was cleaning up because some people had double registration, so people had 40 registrations, after that looked at the, looked at the lease of those multiple registrations, some registrations were cancelled because the people did double registrations. So when you have this and now the court has on its own decided to allow persons who don't have the temporary footers card, who I know did not show whether they had double registration or not, because as I said you go ahead and vote, that is usurping the powers of the executive, unfortunately, that's to my mind, that's usurping the powers of the executive has taken his action and you have not, and the process by which INEK is not a process that is calling the powers of the executive to challenge the powers of the executive, that the process of doing that is a process of judicial review, where the courts will have to determine if the actions taken by the executive were done in accordance with the law. Now I want to explain it and show that that's why they may want to appeal because they may want to say we have not, our position was not taken into consideration. Yeah, but the court did say that there was no, that the constitution, that the 1999 constitution and electoral act 2022 laid emphasis only, well did not specifically lay emphasis that it's only the PVC that should be used, it just laid emphasis on voter cards, that's a voter's card, but emphasis was not laid specifically on the PVC. You want to answer that before I go to Johnson? Yes, I can hear you now, yeah, did you get my question? Yes, I did. Yeah, because the court did reveal yesterday that neither the 1999 constitution nor the electoral act 2022 laid emphasis that only the PVC could be used, that it only stated voter's cards. Yes, we agree. However, you see the process of arriving at something at the point when you are giving powers to do things, the process of arriving at that point was taken into consideration. I said here, before they got to the point of giving you permanent voter's card, how to review if you were previously registered somewhere else, which is an issue of voter registration, if your age is not up to 18, but all that is on his list is the person who has been doing that. So these are issues that I need to consider before arriving at the decision. Okay, I'm going to go to Johnson Agu right now. However, Johnson, hello Johnson, can you hear me? I can hear you clearly. All right, please, can you come in here? The court did say that these people, that is, the two gentlemen, Kofo Wala, Olusiago and Wilson Allwell, were duly registered and so he gave this judgment that they should be allowed to vote using their temporary voter cards. However, the suit was not, did not allow for other Nigerians who have their temporary voter cards, but could not get their permanent voter cards to go ahead and register because, according to the court, the suit was not in a representative capacity. Okay, so haven't heard what Barista Umaren just answered, gave right now. Please answer this and also respond to the point he has raised. I think I'll start by responding slightly to what he has said. I do not accept that persons whose names are on the register as of today are not eligible to vote because INEC has said that it has cleaned up the voter register. He says INEC has said that all those who have done double registrations, it has removed their second registration. Therefore, there is a presumption that any person whose name is on the register now is eligible to vote. The question of permanent, issuance of permanent voter card is a question of logistics. So it shouldn't be the fault of those who have fulfilled all the conditions for voting and INEC failing to rent and issue to them, even if it is at their homes, a permanent voter card. It shouldn't be there for, they shouldn't be deprived of the opportunity to decide their civic duties. That's how I see it. Now, as for the court, we're still respecting the application of this judgment, which is quite commonsensical, if not just the law. The reality is that the person who approached the court is the person who has received the reliefs. It should have been a representative capacity or a class action. It would have applied to everyone. However, that is not the end of it. What is the law? This is the law. So if the law applies to Johnson, since we are all before the law, we should apply to Morin. We are Morin has the same circumstances as Johnson. I think it's quite clear. So it will be up to INEC to apply the law. If the court has now said that what it held is the position of the law, INEC should apply it equally to everybody. It shouldn't wait for a pillage of mitigation before it complies with the law. In fact, nobody actually needs a court order to comply with the law. That's the way I see it. Right now by Barista Justice Uhwebu, a human rights lawyer. Hello, Barista Uhwebu. Barista Uhwebu, can you hear me? Okay, it does appear that we're having a bit of communication problems with him. Okay, let me go back to Barista Um Morin. Barista Um Morin. Yeah. All right. Well, you've listened to Johnson. I did. And he's saying that it should apply to all. Yes, you see, what I do not know and which I think my learning friend also may not know is that it was the court's list exhibited in their originating process. You get what's it? If your name is on the voter's list, the permanent voter's list, then you should vote. But the issue is do they have the permanent, you see, they, they, we are, there's a bit of confusion that's been created here. The list of permanent voters, the list of permanent voters was done before the court. How did the court arrive at the point that their, that their names were on the permanent voter's list? That's one. You see, the court should not give judgments that are difficult of interpretation, that have more than one interpretation. It has a rule of, of interpretation of, of, of statutes. The order that make this, the, the, the law that they're interpreting look foolish of it. Barrister Moran. Yes, please. Barrister Moran. The ruling specifically made it clear that because these two gentlemen were duly registered and their data captured in INEX database and so they were duly registered and because they couldn't get their voter cards, the permanent voter cards, was the only reason why they couldn't vote. So not allowing them to vote according to the judge will be disenfranchising them and, you know, and they were the only two that made this application. That's the only reason why it's limited to them. But they were duly registered. Yes, but you see, when a judgment is passed, even though they were two and they were asking, INEX immediately would have to obey the, the orders of the courts because that's their educational provision. Now, the one who has benefit of that order will approach INEX. Definitely. And if INEX, then you have, you have a problem because, and then that may be an issue that they cause the elections to be set aside because if you, if you have breached somebody's fundamental rights, anything you do in breach of that fundamental right is null and void. So now that INEX has expressed intention to appeal this case, what implications would that have on the next coming election? Well, I, I would, you see, I agree with my letter from Mr. Johnson, that INEX put up a lot of things here. However, the law, the way it oppresses, will not take a confession. You get? Now, INEX should have, once that you are registered, either by way of email, you get? People send you a card or your, your, your, your, your, your V number, what identification number, with which you can go, make, know that, oh, this is where I'm supposed to vote. And then it says you are by model system of accreditation. When you get there, if you put your thumbprint and you are not the person, you are rejected. Get?  So these are the problems INEX, you see, when INEX was going on, a couple of us asked, spoke out that INEX should review its models of branding. Because at the end of the day, if you disenfranchise somebody wrongfully, you are addressing an opportunity of determining who will seem. And like Chief Abela said, you cannot share the man said in his absence. So it's important that going forward, we should bring people who understand what democracy is about to head these institutions. Let us stop this thing of picking people because you know them or something. Let's look for people who are, who have shown competence in other areas or who are, who understand what their duties are. We put a lot of wrong pegs in square holes in this country because of man-to-man, because somebody's from an area, because of balancing and all those. We need to start getting the right people to do the job. All right, all right. Okay. In view of what you're saying, Johnson, you could also come in here. Last year, Barisakome S.A.N. went to court over a similar case. And that case was presided over by Justice Inyang Epo, who actually declined in that case to issue a mandatory order to compel INEC, one to extend the CVR exercise to, you know, 90 days before the elections. And it also refused to order INEC to allow citizens with temporary voter cards to vote. However, that is changed now with this new judgment at the Federal High Court, given by Justice Obiora Egwatu. It is a judiciary discussing this confusion at this point, isn't it? I'm sorry. You see, these are some of the issues that we need to trash out in law, amongst us, between the page and the back. Now, the judgment of by Lord Justice Obiora Egwatu did not, even though it's their concurrent course, did not take into consideration the decision of IAECOJ, where he declined, they understand, declined, even though the judgment is not binding on him, it should have, taken, by Lord, should have taken time to review that judgment and give reason why he's departing from that judgment that is of similar, similar status, because the judgment of by Lord Egwatu is not binding, but was first in time. So, my Lord Justice Obiora Egwatu, should have given reason why he's departing from the portion of his learned brother. Okay, Johnson, please come in here. I'm not able to condemn the most recent judgment because, first, it is not binding on the, the, the earlier judgment is not strictly binding on the letter judge. It is persuasive. Second, I do not know if that judgment was cited to him, I haven't read the test of this judgment. So, I'm actually unable to, I'm in the test of the two judgments. So, I'm quite unable to comment extensively on both of them. But common sense says to me that only a judgment cited to a judge will persuade that judge, especially if that is a judgment of first instance. When I mean first instance, I mean judgment met by the first court. The Federal High Court is one court, whether it is located in Abuja or in Lagos, is a court of the same level. So, judgment met by a judge in Abuja is the same category as judgment met by judge in Lagos in the Federal High Court. Now, when I say persuasive, I mean that the judge in Lagos should be guided if he chooses by the judgment met by the judge in Abuja. We are the same issues at the same. I mean when the issues first, circumstances are the same. But in the case we have at hand, as far as it's available in the public domain, the judge writes properly what the issues are, what the rights involved are. So, I'm unable to support it. If anything, the judgment refusing al-Zekume, assuming the report given to us here is correct. Very correct. If it is correct, that judgment will be the erunous one in that it did not take into consideration some of what this particular judge has taken into consideration. And judges, I try to depart from the decisions previously made. Yeah, that case involving Chief al-Zekume actually took place on Friday 25th November 2022. But let me take you back to a question which I asked earlier, which is now that INEC has expressed interest to appeal this case. What happens or how should other Nigerians who find themselves in this situation duly registered but couldn't get their permanent voter cards because like these two gentlemen had gone to INEC offices repeatedly to get their PVCs but couldn't get it. Or as the case was with some people that I interviewed some time ago, they went to some of these INEC offices and they were told their systems were not working.  They went, came back, systems were not working. So these Nigerians who were duly registered were disenfranchised. Should they jump on this ruling? And this appeal, I mean this appeal that INEC has indicated interest to make, how long do you think it would take for all of that to be cleared up before this coming election on the 18th? The fact that INEC wants to make an appeal does not prevent them from complying with the order. The first duty is for them to comply with the order unless the contract is due of execution of the order that has been met. I am not aware that INEC has applied for a civil execution or that any court has granted a state of execution of the order. So in the circumstances, my first opinion is that the people who fall into the same category with those plaintiffs are entitled to show up on the polling units and present their means of identification for INEC to confirm that their names are on the voter's register being used for the election of 18th March. If their names are there and they are verified to be the people bearing those names, they should be allowed to cast their votes according to the terms of this judgment. And my view is that INEC, like I said, INEC is entitled to appeal. But until it has appealed and that judgment is set aside, it is bound by the decision of the court that gave the directive. Or if another court has given an order stating the execution of the judgment, it is also taking the privilege of that and refuse to comply. But currently, we are not aware of any state orders at the moment. Well, thank you, Barista Johnson, Argo and Barista Omoring. We'll take a short break. We're still on the run-up. We'll be right back. Stay with us. Welcome back to the run-up on Plus TV Africa. Before we went on that break, we were discussing the Federal High Court order that told INEC to allow two Nigerians to vote with their temporary voter cards. Now I need to invite Adebayo Lowakit to ask the next question. Hello, Adebayo. Hello, Maureen. As always, very exciting times. And this judgment only has serve to make the whole electoral process much more interesting. I would like either of our two guests to respond to these thoughts that I have. We normally have a time frame for all electoral disputes to be resolved and that this must be done before the swearing in of elected officials on the 29th of May. How come we do not have such a provision to say that any dispute arising, you know, or resulting from the election, see that as we have now registration of voters, ought also to be resolved before voting actually begins? Because I think, and you are lawyers, you can tell, say what the situation is exactly. But I think that these two Nigerians may institute proceedings against INEC for denying them the opportunity to vote in the presidential elections, for instance. Or maybe that's not possible. It would be good to get your perspective. Should there be a time frame to resolve all issues, even from the standpoint of voters before elections begin? Adebayo, I think what your question is for the growth of our democracy. Yes, but you see, the law that did not make that provision, the electoral act did not make such a provision for that. And you see, let us be very honest. Unfortunately, laws in Nigeria, actually the election laws in Nigeria are really made for the benefit of those, the players, not for the benefit of me. Most of the laws, the electoral acts that were passed, it most times is to protect members of national assembly. And sometimes they go, that's all. Because you see, and you know, there is a big problem here. Most litigations, most appeals are not being heard because of the number of election, pre-election matters that are flooding the Supreme Court and the Court of Appeal.  How do you want to come to three where business transactions cannot be decided in 25 years? How come an investment in that economy? You have disputes that within 25 years the Supreme Court has not decided on them. But electoral issues are determined within 90 days, or 120 days. So that is a major problem. The people in power have come at everything in this country. So let's get to what you said, sir. For judicial activism, yes, these people can definitely, what you see, another thing is, why did they wait till after the presidential election? They said it is the principle of law that equity is the vigilant, not the indolent. If they file this suit before the presidential election, you get, so these are the things that may come up. If they, it will be good for our judicial growth, you get? So these things that we are talking about, the system is filled against the people. A lot of laws that are made in this, by this recent, by the, from 1999 dates, actually electoral laws are made for the benefit of the politicians. So we have, this is what we are stuck with. The first time, imagine the debates as to qualification to vote during the primaries, when the national assembly had knocked themselves off. The delegation, remember? These people do not have the kind, the competence to look at laws that are beneficial to Nigerians. Both of the people that have been elected now, the next thing they want to look for is how much are they going to be paid? How are they going to increase their entitlement and all those? Outside here, it is those who have done well in business or in their professions that seek these offices. Not people who are still hungry. It's unfortunate. Okay, Johnson Aguil, do you want to add to what Barrister Marin has said, in response to Adebayo's questions? Actually, first, I will accept that we see the electoral laws were politician-centric. The people who made it, who haven't exactly taken up or telling the legitimate consent of the government, they were most probably considering elections as a normality. So that I accept. Well, I think it is up to us and other members of the society to make these politicians to become accountable to us by testing some of the rules that they themselves have made in the courts, and it is up to the courts, the judiciary, to balance the interests of the politicians and the electorates by the way they interpret the laws that have been made. That is why I so much cherish the interpretation that has been given by this latest federal high court decision, allowing two persons to vote with their temporary voters' cards. I must accept that the judge didn't go outside the test of the law, so far as I have seen it, to the extent I have read. It is the same law that he has interpreted in the correct way. So it is up to us to continue to test this now. And if this gentleman hasn't gone to the court, as a court, whether INEC is entitled to expel them from participating in this electoral process. And this judgment wouldn't have come up. And as to the question of whether there should be timeline, well, it may be desirable to have timelines. But my thinking is that the timeline should be towards enhancing participation in the electoral process and not restriction of participation, because my conception is that democracy is a people-oriented government. It's the more people are able to show their consent, the better. In other words, there should be evidence that the majority of the people within a particular locality has indeed given their consent to be governed by the set of politicians that are angling for power. This consent is given or expressed by the electoral process, by the number of people that actually turned out to vote, out of the total illegitimate to vote, and out of the total population. If I must use the presidential elections for illustration, we understand that the total of 8,025,000 voted for our president-elect. And that is about 3.4% of the total population of Nigeria of about 215 million people. How is that an expression of consent by the majority of Nigerians? And if you look at it properly, that 3.7 million people that voted for our president is just 36.4% of the total people that voted on that day. So we show that about 6.7% of Nigerian electorates rejected our president-elect. So we should be making rules and interpreting the rules that we have met in such a way as to accommodate more voters rather than restriction or restricting voters. At the end of the day, if a government will benefit more from legitimacy and support, if more people actually vote in an election and it emerges victorious after a lot of all the possible people who could vote have voted. I don't know if I've met myself clearly, but I think that in summary, it is easier and better to obtain legitimacy and support if all the people who could have voted have voted. However, the margin of victory might be different or difficult to actually determine. Probably you might go into rerun and all of those things, but it is not democracy if just a few people are by technical rules allowed to select government for a population. All right. Well, thank you so much for all of these analyses on this. And of course, one of the things that have been thrown up from all of these somersaults is the fact that voter apathy may be on the increase as we work towards the next elections on the 18th.


All right, so let's focus on creating the lift force and get hooked up to our input so we can lift our Drone off the ground and start to fly it around. Okay. All right So what we need to do is we need to go back to our code over here All right, so we're inside of the drone engine script and what I want to do is we don't need to do this anymore, but I'll just comment it out for now and What I need to do is I need to get access to the rigid body because we're going to have each engine Contribute a certain amount of force. All right, and so to do that We need to add force to the rigid body and so we need to pass in the rigid body into our update engine and we also need to get the Inputs. All right, so inside of the drone controller here What we want to what we really want to do is we just want to pass in the rigid body and our input right here That we're getting. All right But you notice that we get this red squiggly line and that's because our Definition inside of our interface doesn't have those arguments. So we just need to add them We need to do rigid body RB and then we need to do IP drone inputs And we'll call this input like so All right, and now if we go back to our drone controller, you can see that the red warning is gone all right, so inside of the Drone engine you can see now we have red squiggly line because our Implementation doesn't have that same set of arguments. All right, so we need to do a rigid body RB and IP drone inputs called input For the name. All right. Cool. So now we have access to the rigid body and access to the inputs that we are creating Awesome. So the first thing we want to do is we want to create a vector 3 called engine force Like so and we'll initialize this to a vector 3.0. All right, so every frame will just zero it out All right, and then basically recalculate the amount of force Okay, and so to do that what I'm going to do is I'm going to say engine force is equal to our Transform dot up. So this particular engines transform not up not the world up times our RB dot mess times our physics Dot gravity Dot magnitude. All right, so that gets us to hover. Okay So let's put that inside of parentheses there Like so and then we'll open up another set of parentheses over here. So we'll say plus our input dot throttle Times our max power. All right, so if this, you know Zero or one times the max power that will add on that much more force to This particular equation which we know hovers it so if we're adding on or taking away more that means we're going to lift up Or lift or drop down, right? And then we want to go and divide that by four, right because we have four engines Right and remember each one of these engines is contributing. So basically at the end of the day We want to basically add them all up between the four engines so we get our final force that lifts our drone off the ground So we just want need a quarter of this total force right here All right, so then we're going to say RB dot add force and We're just going to give it up the engine force like so and enforce they'll do a force mode dot force All right Cool, so let's go and test that out. So let's go and save this guy, too And we'll go back in the unity over here and let's make ourselves a little bit of room So I'm going to back up a little bit Let's go back here. Just so we have a nice starting point And really all that's going to happen is this guy's going to go up and down, right? So if I hit play I'm going to use the Xbox controller and I start to lift up You can see that we're lifting up and I can go down and I can try to get this guy to be right in the middle So it hovers now you'll notice that when I give it a little bit of force It's just it's just going to keep going right and that's because if we take a look at our rigid body over here We don't we don't have any drag. Well By default you have some sort of drag, right? It's only out in space where you have literally zero drag So if you push something it'll just constantly keep going until it hits something or something counteracts its force, right? So to get it to slow down we could do something like 0.5 for the drag here Let's hit play So now if I lift up You'll notice it'll slowly come to a stop at some point because drag is now Reducing its velocity every frame Cool. So there we go. So pretty easy stuff, right? Nothing crazy again I mean, this is just a basic controller But I wanted to show you guys how to get it at least started and set up so you can go and customize it So now we've got a way to control our drone up and down Pretty cool stuff right there. So now with that all created What we need to do is we need to get it so we can actually control it with the Left stick right now. I can only go up and down and that when that's not very much fun The other thing we should do to while while I'm here before I close out this lecture Let's go to the drone body here And Let's put a box collider around this So let's do a box collider Around there and let's also add a sphere collider just so we can kind of get a medicinal collision for the upper shape here So let's do a sphere collider as well. You can you can have multiple colliders on these guys And what we need to do really is let's go edit the sphere collider So I'm going to hit this little button right here I'm just going to pull this guy up to right about there and then pull this up so that it's not Hitting the ground. We want the box hit the ground cool There we go. So now we got all of our collisions all set up We now have a legit drone All right, so I'm going to close the uh lecture out there and move on to the next